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[01:12.000 --> 01:15.000]  Trump said during his meeting with trade executives that, quote,
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[02:53.000 --> 03:00.000]  This is Brooke Brody with your Lowdown from January 23rd, 2017.
[03:00.000 --> 03:24.000]  Hey, we are back.
[03:24.000 --> 03:31.000]  We are back.
[03:31.000 --> 03:33.000]  Do we have anything else we kind of need to move along?
[03:33.000 --> 03:40.000]  We've got a whole stack of callers.
[03:40.000 --> 03:41.000]  Contact me offline.
[03:41.000 --> 03:43.000]  I'd like to talk about this.
[03:43.000 --> 03:44.000]  Okay.
[03:44.000 --> 03:48.000]  See if we can't get something rocking and rolling.
[03:48.000 --> 03:58.000]  Hold on. One quick thing. How about like the officer testifies to things that happened like he came up to the car on the left side and stuff like that,
[03:58.000 --> 04:02.000]  but it showed on the video that that did not happen.
[04:02.000 --> 04:05.000]  They never ever came up to the car or anything.
[04:05.000 --> 04:11.000]  A lot of their testimony they testified to was incorrect.
[04:11.000 --> 04:20.000]  It goes to the credibility of the witness, but it's not perjurious unless it's material.
[04:20.000 --> 04:33.000]  If it's important which side of the car he came up on or that he came up on the side of the car, then if it's a material fact, then that's perjury.
[04:33.000 --> 04:40.000]  But if it's not material, if the only question is, was your window broken out?
[04:40.000 --> 04:50.000]  No, the cop walked up to the window and he looked in and testified to seeing Troy Lozano in the passenger seat.
[04:50.000 --> 05:01.000]  But in the video, you saw that the cop never even walked up to the car and he did not identify Troy Lozano in the passenger seat.
[05:01.000 --> 05:12.000]  If it was material, if he was the one that was accused of driving and violating law, absolutely that's material.
[05:12.000 --> 05:15.000]  That's perjury.
[05:15.000 --> 05:31.000]  So any statement that is going against the fact that actually was presented is bad.
[05:31.000 --> 05:50.000]  If he said that this person was driving a car in excess of the posted speed limit with a blue hat on and he had a green hat on, that didn't make any difference.
[05:50.000 --> 05:53.000]  So it's not material.
[05:53.000 --> 06:08.000]  If he said he personally saw this person in the driver's seat when he did not see this person in the driver's seat and based on his assertion that he saw him in the driver's seat, he wrote him a citation, that's material.
[06:08.000 --> 06:13.000]  Facts that go to the adjudication of the case.
[06:13.000 --> 06:25.000]  They ask you how much you weigh and you lie about your weight and the issues about speeding weight is irrelevant, so that's not material.
[06:25.000 --> 06:29.000]  I got to go research material because I'm not understanding.
[06:29.000 --> 06:34.000]  I don't want to take up time on the line, but what do I need to go research to figure this out?
[06:34.000 --> 06:45.000]  Just look up perjury and talk about what's material and what's not.
[06:45.000 --> 06:47.000]  Okay.
[06:47.000 --> 06:48.000]  Okay.
[06:48.000 --> 06:49.000]  Thank you, Olivier.
[06:49.000 --> 06:53.000]  Now we're going to go to Peter in Maryland.
[06:53.000 --> 06:54.000]  Peter is a first-time caller.
[06:54.000 --> 06:55.000]  Hello, Peter.
[06:55.000 --> 06:58.000]  What do you have for us today?
[06:58.000 --> 07:04.000]  Hi. Well, I am involved in a fraudulent foreclosure case.
[07:04.000 --> 07:11.000]  There was a house sitting vacant for about four years and I tracked down the owner and he didn't even know.
[07:11.000 --> 07:18.000]  He thought he had taken bankruptcy and thought the first foreclosure stuck, but it had come back.
[07:18.000 --> 07:33.000]  But bottom line, it turns out that there was a second foreclosure on it and I got a power of attorney to negotiate with the debt holders to try to acquire the property.
[07:33.000 --> 07:34.000]  Hold on.
[07:34.000 --> 07:36.000]  Let me back up a bit.
[07:36.000 --> 07:40.000]  When was the first foreclosure?
[07:40.000 --> 07:54.000]  It was 2009 and it was a GMAC foreclosure. It wasn't one of those rovers designers, but they had failed to notify the federal tax authorities that had a senior lien.
[07:54.000 --> 08:00.000]  So it got reversed, but they never notified the owner that he got his house back.
[08:00.000 --> 08:01.000]  Okay.
[08:01.000 --> 08:02.000]  Hold on. Hold on.
[08:02.000 --> 08:03.000]  Let's back up a bit.
[08:03.000 --> 08:07.000]  I'm looking at statute of limitations is why I'm asking these questions.
[08:07.000 --> 08:13.000]  How long did it take them to foreclose in the first instance?
[08:13.000 --> 08:21.000]  Well, in the first instance, I think it was struck in April of 2010.
[08:21.000 --> 08:23.000]  No, no, no, no, no.
[08:23.000 --> 08:34.000]  When on the 2009 foreclosure, when did the bank first send the borrower a notice of default?
[08:34.000 --> 08:38.000]  Oh, I have no idea. I wasn't around then. That was four years before I got involved.
[08:38.000 --> 08:41.000]  Okay. That's what I needed to know.
[08:41.000 --> 08:46.000]  What is the statute of limitations on foreclosures? Is this in Maryland?
[08:46.000 --> 08:57.000]  Well, yeah, it's a non-judicial state, but the thing is what happened is that the first foreclosure was bad for another reason.
[08:57.000 --> 09:07.000]  A day before they said he defaulted on this loan, which the note was owned by a trust, but Deutsche Bank was the trustee,
[09:07.000 --> 09:14.000]  he had refinanced the mortgage with the servicer who was GMAC at the time.
[09:14.000 --> 09:24.000]  And so both the party and the default that they swore to was wrong.
[09:24.000 --> 09:33.000]  Now, what happened is they foreclosed the second time, and this time they attached what was clearly a fraudulent, a launch to the-
[09:33.000 --> 09:41.000]  Hold on, hold on. Stop, stop. You're going down the rabbit hole.
[09:41.000 --> 09:43.000]  Okay.
[09:43.000 --> 09:51.000]  Sometimes, on extremely rare occasions, I'll talk about the launch.
[09:51.000 --> 09:58.000]  And for those who don't know what that is, if you say you got a check, somebody writes you a check,
[09:58.000 --> 10:03.000]  and you ain't got time to go to the bank, so you just sign it over to somebody else.
[10:03.000 --> 10:08.000]  And he gets it, and he don't have time to go to the bank, so he just assigns it over to somebody else.
[10:08.000 --> 10:18.000]  Well, if you run out of room on that check to sign it over, take another piece of paper and sign that and attach it to the check, and that's the launch.
[10:18.000 --> 10:24.000]  So this goes to securitization of the note.
[10:24.000 --> 10:31.000]  That's the last place you want to go. That's the first place the bank wants you to go.
[10:31.000 --> 10:36.000]  The first place I want to go is statute of limitations.
[10:36.000 --> 10:46.000]  When did they give a notice of default? Most states, you've got four years. Some states, you've got six years.
[10:46.000 --> 10:52.000]  Once you've given a notice of default in the state of Texas, you have four years to foreclose.
[10:52.000 --> 10:56.000]  You don't get it done in four years, it's over.
[10:56.000 --> 10:57.000]  Now, here's the thing.
[10:57.000 --> 11:00.000]  Well, in Maryland, that's four years.
[11:00.000 --> 11:07.000]  They did a foreclosure, and that foreclosure was overturned.
[11:07.000 --> 11:16.000]  It's like that foreclosure never happened, so the clock never stopped running.
[11:16.000 --> 11:32.000]  So if they did one foreclosure, the trustee has no power to do that second foreclosure, and he certainly has no power.
[11:32.000 --> 11:41.000]  It was their claim it was a second ending, but that's only part of the issue because GMAC took $17 billion of taxpayer money
[11:41.000 --> 11:46.000]  and went around and he bought about half of the mortgages they were servicing, and this was one of them.
[11:46.000 --> 11:52.000]  So GMAC, receivers now, were the proper owner of the mortgage.
[11:52.000 --> 11:56.000]  You're going down that rabbit hole again.
[11:56.000 --> 11:57.000]  Okay, all right.
[11:57.000 --> 12:08.000]  That's where they want you to go, and after doing, I've had over 700 people file lawsuits against the banks,
[12:08.000 --> 12:11.000]  and I can tell you that's the last place you want to go to.
[12:11.000 --> 12:19.000]  That is the hardest place to adjudicate, and if you try to adjudicate that issue, I can guarantee you.
[12:19.000 --> 12:25.000]  Well, no, I mean, I've actually told the four lawyers, told them I couldn't stop their foreclosure, and I did,
[12:25.000 --> 12:35.000]  but the reason I called in is the bigger picture for all the fraudulent foreclosures.
[12:35.000 --> 12:43.000]  Okay, then what is your intended ultimate outcome?
[12:43.000 --> 12:51.000]  Well, I want to be able to negotiate with the proper holder of the note to acquire the property.
[12:51.000 --> 12:56.000]  I've been living in the property for almost four years now.
[12:56.000 --> 12:59.000]  Okay, okay.
[12:59.000 --> 13:08.000]  Sometimes when someone's been into an issue, especially if you're living in the property, you have an investment.
[13:08.000 --> 13:20.000]  You got a dog in the hut, and sometimes it makes it hard to step away from the issues that you've been working on all this time.
[13:20.000 --> 13:24.000]  I had a guy in New Mexico.
[13:24.000 --> 13:29.000]  He just absolutely insisted on fighting this one issue.
[13:29.000 --> 13:33.000]  Well, see, I don't have standing because, you know, I have power of attorney.
[13:33.000 --> 13:38.000]  I'd have to go out and hire an attorney, and I don't necessarily want to spend money hiring an attorney.
[13:38.000 --> 13:40.000]  Wait a minute.
[13:40.000 --> 13:42.000]  Hold on.
[13:42.000 --> 13:44.000]  What about a quit claim?
[13:44.000 --> 13:46.000]  I've got a quit claim.
[13:46.000 --> 13:48.000]  You have standing.
[13:48.000 --> 13:53.000]  Please, I have a pocket deed, but in Maryland, you have to record it.
[13:53.000 --> 13:54.000]  And record it?
[13:54.000 --> 13:56.000]  That's standing.
[13:56.000 --> 13:59.000]  Well, it's $8,000.
[13:59.000 --> 14:01.000]  How much?
[14:01.000 --> 14:07.000]  $8,000 in property taxes to record it, transfer taxes.
[14:07.000 --> 14:08.000]  Oh, okay.
[14:08.000 --> 14:11.000]  So it's behind the taxes or behind?
[14:11.000 --> 14:12.000]  No, no, no.
[14:12.000 --> 14:15.000]  This is just the transfer taxes, not behind in any taxes.
[14:15.000 --> 14:18.000]  I've settled with the HOA.
[14:18.000 --> 14:22.000]  I've got a settlement, at least a verbal agreement, the second mortgage holder to settle.
[14:22.000 --> 14:25.000]  You know, it's almost like a short sale.
[14:25.000 --> 14:33.000]  But what I'm looking at now is looking at maybe filing a tortious interference of a contract.
[14:33.000 --> 14:39.000]  And also, I've been scraping with some software all the land records and the court records,
[14:39.000 --> 14:49.000]  and I've found several other instances where the person, the entity that shows up to foreclose
[14:49.000 --> 14:57.000]  is not the entity that acquires a property at the foreclosure sale.
[14:57.000 --> 15:02.000]  So, but in this case, you know, there was a clear fraud.
[15:02.000 --> 15:04.000]  I've got, you know, a smoking gun.
[15:04.000 --> 15:10.000]  I'm more interested in putting some people in jail, so I'm looking at going, you know,
[15:10.000 --> 15:13.000]  taking this evidence and going to our local grand jury.
[15:13.000 --> 15:21.000]  My state's attorney basically told me that we don't have the money to go, you know,
[15:21.000 --> 15:25.000]  criminally prosecute Daeshwane.
[15:25.000 --> 15:29.000]  His problem, not your problem.
[15:29.000 --> 15:30.000]  Yeah.
[15:30.000 --> 15:33.000]  That's the short and long of that.
[15:33.000 --> 15:34.000]  The grand jury.
[15:34.000 --> 15:43.000]  What does Maryland law say about grand juries?
[15:43.000 --> 15:45.000]  What are the duties of the grand jury?
[15:45.000 --> 15:48.000]  Anyone can approach the grand jury.
[15:48.000 --> 15:55.000]  You send a sealed letter, and then the jury foreman is actually the one that decides
[15:55.000 --> 15:58.000]  whether he's supposed to share the information with the rest of the jury,
[15:58.000 --> 16:02.000]  but he basically decides whether or not they want to hear, you know, evidence.
[16:02.000 --> 16:03.000]  Okay.
[16:03.000 --> 16:08.000]  That's why I'm asking, what does the code say?
[16:08.000 --> 16:10.000]  I'll tell you why.
[16:10.000 --> 16:11.000]  Okay.
[16:11.000 --> 16:16.000]  I'm in Texas, and I just filed first degree felony aggravated assault charges
[16:16.000 --> 16:23.000]  against my local district judge because he had a bailiff touch me.
[16:23.000 --> 16:27.000]  I gave it to the grand jury, and I didn't hear anything back,
[16:27.000 --> 16:29.000]  and I called the district attorney's office,
[16:29.000 --> 16:33.000]  and he said that the grand jury decided not to hear it.
[16:33.000 --> 16:38.000]  Now, is that a fact, Jack?
[16:38.000 --> 16:40.000]  So, we'll see how that works out for you.
[16:40.000 --> 16:45.000]  When I come back next week, should I bring criminal complaints
[16:45.000 --> 16:48.000]  against all the grand jury members to you,
[16:48.000 --> 16:52.000]  or should I give it to the new grand jury?
[16:52.000 --> 16:54.000]  I don't care what they want to do.
[16:54.000 --> 16:55.000]  Hang on.
[16:55.000 --> 16:59.000]  Randy Kelt, Blue Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[19:28.000 --> 19:30.000]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio.
[19:30.000 --> 19:33.000]  And we're talking to Peter.
[19:33.000 --> 19:40.000]  Before you try to pursue criminal accusations,
[19:40.000 --> 19:42.000]  you need to read the code.
[19:42.000 --> 19:45.000]  There's not a whole lot to read.
[19:45.000 --> 19:47.000]  There's not much here.
[19:47.000 --> 19:51.000]  I'm reading it right now and there's really nothing in the code.
[19:51.000 --> 19:52.000]  Hold on.
[19:52.000 --> 20:00.000]  Do you have a section in the code on grand juries that's titled duties of grand jurors?
[20:00.000 --> 20:03.000]  Nope.
[20:03.000 --> 20:05.000]  There's a number of grand juries, additional grand juries,
[20:05.000 --> 20:15.000]  attendees, oaths, records, transcripts, and that's it.
[20:15.000 --> 20:20.000]  Okay, I don't have time to look it up.
[20:20.000 --> 20:25.000]  There's going to be something somewhere that tells what a grand jury's duties are.
[20:25.000 --> 20:27.000]  It might be in the rules.
[20:27.000 --> 20:28.000]  I haven't looked it up.
[20:28.000 --> 20:30.000]  No, no, the rules don't count.
[20:30.000 --> 20:31.000]  They have to be in statute.
[20:31.000 --> 20:32.000]  Yeah, it's just in the code.
[20:32.000 --> 20:41.000]  In Texas, it says the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes subject to indictment
[20:41.000 --> 20:44.000]  that come to their knowledge by way of any member of the grand jury,
[20:44.000 --> 20:48.000]  the prosecuting attorney, or any credible person.
[20:48.000 --> 20:57.000]  In the Fed, in D.C., it says the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes subject to indictment
[20:57.000 --> 21:01.000]  that come to their knowledge by whatever means.
[21:01.000 --> 21:04.000]  And a number of states have that one.
[21:04.000 --> 21:12.000]  You have to find something that gives the grand jury a specific duty to act
[21:12.000 --> 21:16.000]  before you can hold them responsible for not acting.
[21:16.000 --> 21:20.000]  The same thing with the prosecuting attorney.
[21:20.000 --> 21:24.000]  In Texas law, if the prosecuting attorney is made known in any manner
[21:24.000 --> 21:27.000]  that a public official has violated a law related to his office,
[21:27.000 --> 21:31.000]  he shall reduce the complaint to an information submitted to the grand jury.
[21:31.000 --> 21:36.000]  That puts on him a specific duty.
[21:36.000 --> 21:39.000]  And that's not exactly how the statute reads.
[21:39.000 --> 21:41.000]  It's a bit longer than that.
[21:41.000 --> 21:44.000]  I paraphrase it because it's kind of long and convoluted.
[21:44.000 --> 21:46.000]  But that's essentially what it says.
[21:46.000 --> 21:50.000]  If he's made known in any manner that he must give it to the grand jury,
[21:50.000 --> 21:54.000]  there's no discretion in the matter of a complaint against a public official.
[21:54.000 --> 21:58.000]  So I go to this attorney, if you have this rule,
[21:58.000 --> 22:03.000]  and the rule says never ask a public official to do anything
[22:03.000 --> 22:08.000]  that you actually want him to do.
[22:08.000 --> 22:13.000]  Because you never ask a public official to do anything
[22:13.000 --> 22:18.000]  that the law does not specifically command him to do.
[22:18.000 --> 22:22.000]  So before you do that, you've got to go dig in the law
[22:22.000 --> 22:28.000]  and find where the grand jury is given a duty to examine in
[22:28.000 --> 22:32.000]  to generally just felony crimes.
[22:32.000 --> 22:34.000]  That's generally what grand juries are for.
[22:34.000 --> 22:37.000]  In Texas it says felony misdemeanor,
[22:37.000 --> 22:42.000]  but you need to find something that gives them that duty.
[22:42.000 --> 22:45.000]  Then you can hold them to it.
[22:45.000 --> 22:49.000]  The one thing we try to get everybody to understand is that
[22:49.000 --> 22:52.000]  if you walk into a courthouse,
[22:52.000 --> 22:56.000]  you're the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[22:56.000 --> 23:01.000]  They're going to do everything they can to keep people knowing that.
[23:01.000 --> 23:08.000]  I haven't gotten that far yet, but what I'd like to talk about
[23:08.000 --> 23:13.000]  is a bigger picture and maybe a solution.
[23:13.000 --> 23:15.000]  There's some software out.
[23:15.000 --> 23:21.000]  It's called OSS, and it's basically an AI robotic lawyer.
[23:21.000 --> 23:24.000]  I use the Watson supercomputer,
[23:24.000 --> 23:30.000]  and I've been developing AI for real robots.
[23:30.000 --> 23:35.000]  I'm looking to apply it to build what I call a slingshot
[23:35.000 --> 23:42.000]  for the Davids of the world, the Slay the Goliaths of the world.
[23:42.000 --> 23:48.000]  That's what Frank Waldo had asked me to call into the show and talk about.
[23:48.000 --> 23:52.000]  Okay, you're the one I got the email from.
[23:52.000 --> 23:53.000]  Yeah, okay.
[23:53.000 --> 23:55.000]  Okay, this shows you in Maryland.
[23:55.000 --> 23:58.000]  I thought my email showed you in Pennsylvania.
[23:58.000 --> 24:02.000]  Okay, now I'm less confused.
[24:02.000 --> 24:03.000]  Okay.
[24:03.000 --> 24:09.000]  Okay, so my idea was I've already done some of these automatic
[24:09.000 --> 24:13.000]  scraping of all the court records, so I put in Deutsche Bank and Aquin,
[24:13.000 --> 24:15.000]  and it pulls up all the actions.
[24:15.000 --> 24:21.000]  Then I go and I scrape the land records and pull out the images
[24:21.000 --> 24:26.000]  and convert them into text so I can go and search who the parties are
[24:26.000 --> 24:29.000]  and the dates and all that.
[24:29.000 --> 24:35.000]  What I wanted to do is just a massive, basically like a fraud detection software
[24:35.000 --> 24:39.000]  to detect all the fraud that's going on and who the parties are
[24:39.000 --> 24:45.000]  and then develop the software to help pro se and small law.
[24:45.000 --> 24:49.000]  Even if he's a good lawyer and he's a small office,
[24:49.000 --> 24:56.000]  if he goes after these big banks, like after I was blowing their regular
[24:56.000 --> 25:02.000]  foreclosure attorneys away, they pulled in a Philadelphia lawyer that came down
[25:02.000 --> 25:09.000]  and he picked apart my attorney and some other things, and I lost my standing.
[25:09.000 --> 25:19.000]  The two hardest things I found is when you're doing a pro se is, first of all,
[25:19.000 --> 25:23.000]  finding all the case law and finding out what your arguments are
[25:23.000 --> 25:26.000]  because it takes an inordinate amount of time,
[25:26.000 --> 25:30.000]  especially if you haven't been trained in the law.
[25:30.000 --> 25:37.000]  Then the second thing is gathering evidence,
[25:37.000 --> 25:43.000]  but preparing the arguments and picking out how to prioritize them
[25:43.000 --> 25:45.000]  and then also responding.
[25:45.000 --> 25:53.000]  My idea is to build these AI systems at anybody
[25:53.000 --> 25:58.000]  and have maybe 100,000 people across the country all filing pro ses
[25:58.000 --> 26:04.000]  that don't get dismissed in summary judgment because they didn't,
[26:04.000 --> 26:08.000]  or even the small, they don't know what they're doing
[26:08.000 --> 26:16.000]  and really give some credible fight.
[26:16.000 --> 26:23.000]  I equate it to, like I said, the slingshot that David used to take down Goliath.
[26:23.000 --> 26:32.000]  You're speaking to what I've been working on for about 10 years now.
[26:32.000 --> 26:34.000]  I'm working on it.
[26:34.000 --> 26:36.000]  I'll upload your website a little bit.
[26:36.000 --> 26:37.000]  That would give you the interview process.
[26:37.000 --> 26:39.000]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[26:39.000 --> 26:42.000]  We have a suppressor on the system.
[26:42.000 --> 26:47.000]  If I'm talking and you speak, it's going to shove your voice down below mine.
[26:47.000 --> 26:52.000]  The only time I can tell you're talking is if I get a break and I hear you behind me.
[26:52.000 --> 26:57.000]  So I don't always, I may talk over you, not meaning to, is because I don't hear you.
[26:57.000 --> 27:00.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[27:00.000 --> 27:01.000]  All righty.
[27:01.000 --> 27:06.000]  Yeah, so the idea is to replace that $3 million Watson,
[27:06.000 --> 27:11.000]  I was looking maybe doing a Kickstarter campaign or something to get a lot of people
[27:11.000 --> 27:17.000]  that not just put up the funding but get access to their personal computers
[27:17.000 --> 27:24.000]  and be able to have an equivalent distributed computer that would be as good or better
[27:24.000 --> 27:28.000]  than the attorneys that some of these big banks have
[27:28.000 --> 27:34.000]  and be able to match them pleading for pleading on a large scale.
[27:34.000 --> 27:42.000]  So it could be used by smaller law firms to do class action suits or a combination of that or pro se.
[27:42.000 --> 27:51.000]  And it wouldn't just apply to mortgage fraud.
[27:51.000 --> 27:56.000]  Did I lose you?
[27:56.000 --> 27:58.000]  Okay, Peter, I think we...
[27:58.000 --> 27:59.000]  Oh, there you are.
[27:59.000 --> 28:03.000]  Now you're back.
[28:03.000 --> 28:04.000]  I think you're back.
[28:04.000 --> 28:05.000]  Are you there, Peter?
[28:05.000 --> 28:06.000]  Did you hear any of that?
[28:06.000 --> 28:08.000]  No, I didn't hear any of that.
[28:08.000 --> 28:09.000]  Say it again.
[28:09.000 --> 28:14.000]  Okay, yeah, well, basically is to replace that $3 million Watson computer
[28:14.000 --> 28:21.000]  with doing like a Kickstarter campaign to get people to not just kick in a little cash
[28:21.000 --> 28:28.000]  but provide their computers power and to get thousands of computer.
[28:28.000 --> 28:35.000]  I've done some distributed computing things in the biomedical field,
[28:35.000 --> 28:44.000]  but it basically would give us the little guy, a sophisticated lawyer,
[28:44.000 --> 28:54.000]  to be able to really battle head to head with these, in my case, the big banks.
[28:54.000 --> 28:59.000]  Okay, I've helped about 700 people file federal lawsuits against the big banks.
[28:59.000 --> 29:02.000]  So I have a lot of experience there.
[29:02.000 --> 29:06.000]  But I have been 10 years developing a tool.
[29:06.000 --> 29:11.000]  I was at a meeting of big data programmers,
[29:11.000 --> 29:19.000]  and they were talking about how AI had not lived up to its hype.
[29:19.000 --> 29:26.000]  And so I asked them, you know, you're talking about artificial intelligence,
[29:26.000 --> 29:32.000]  and you're speaking to it from a very high level of abstraction.
[29:32.000 --> 29:38.000]  So you're trying to artificially produce intelligence.
[29:38.000 --> 29:44.000]  So what is that intelligence you're trying to artificially produce?
[29:44.000 --> 29:46.000]  I've never heard anybody find it.
[29:46.000 --> 29:47.000]  Well, this Roth system...
[29:47.000 --> 29:48.000]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[29:48.000 --> 29:49.000]  We're about to go to break.
[29:49.000 --> 29:50.000]  This is Randy Kelton.
[29:50.000 --> 29:51.000]  Okay.
[29:51.000 --> 30:01.000]  We'll be right back.
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[33:12.000 --> 33:31.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio,
[33:31.000 --> 33:34.000]  and we're talking to Peter in Maryland.
[33:34.000 --> 33:40.000]  Peter, what is your plan for how to do this?
[33:40.000 --> 33:45.000]  So far, what you've spoke to is pretty vague in general.
[33:45.000 --> 33:46.000]  Okay.
[33:46.000 --> 33:50.000]  Well, the first and easiest thing to do is gather the evidence
[33:50.000 --> 34:00.000]  by scraping the various websites to like the prominence of the evidence.
[34:00.000 --> 34:04.000]  The harder thing is they call them legal ontologies,
[34:04.000 --> 34:07.000]  and basically what they do is they take basic law theory
[34:07.000 --> 34:14.000]  and basic premise of basic legal concepts,
[34:14.000 --> 34:16.000]  and, you know, they have a database,
[34:16.000 --> 34:19.000]  you can go on the Internet to GitHub and pull some down.
[34:19.000 --> 34:24.000]  And then this raw system, from what I can make out,
[34:24.000 --> 34:29.000]  they use those ontologies then to take the elements of the case
[34:29.000 --> 34:34.000]  and look through the basically put together the case law arguments.
[34:34.000 --> 34:38.000]  And I don't know if it got to the point of constructing pleadings,
[34:38.000 --> 34:40.000]  but there's several different elements.
[34:40.000 --> 34:44.000]  There's something called natural language processing they use,
[34:44.000 --> 34:49.000]  and that is the ability, software that has the ability to read through,
[34:49.000 --> 34:52.000]  just like Google reads through your email
[34:52.000 --> 34:55.000]  and figures out what your preferences are,
[34:55.000 --> 34:58.000]  and then there's a second thing called deep learning,
[34:58.000 --> 35:03.000]  which is a system of going through all this data and making sense,
[35:03.000 --> 35:06.000]  in a higher level sense, not just looking for keywords,
[35:06.000 --> 35:10.000]  but actually taking the natural process.
[35:10.000 --> 35:14.000]  And it's starting to become really pretty decent, you know,
[35:14.000 --> 35:16.000]  coming out with a series.
[35:16.000 --> 35:20.000]  So the idea would be to first gather the evidence,
[35:20.000 --> 35:23.000]  that's technologically the simplest thing,
[35:23.000 --> 35:26.000]  and just maybe having a prominence of the evidence,
[35:26.000 --> 35:31.000]  and say in the last six months here's 100 cases of fraud,
[35:31.000 --> 35:35.000]  and being able to take that to a grand jury as opposed to one case,
[35:35.000 --> 35:37.000]  which might be an outlier,
[35:37.000 --> 35:45.000]  versus here's a definite pattern of racketeering going on.
[35:45.000 --> 35:53.000]  The second stage would be to basically use the AI systems
[35:53.000 --> 35:56.000]  to actually construct your legal arguments,
[35:56.000 --> 35:59.000]  maybe prioritizing looking at the case law,
[35:59.000 --> 36:01.000]  looking maybe even studying the decisions,
[36:01.000 --> 36:06.000]  having the software study the decisions of the courts.
[36:06.000 --> 36:08.000]  Hold on, this is all so vague in general,
[36:08.000 --> 36:12.000]  I still have no idea what you're talking about.
[36:12.000 --> 36:14.000]  Okay, let me explain.
[36:14.000 --> 36:16.000]  I'm an engineer.
[36:16.000 --> 36:22.000]  And as an engineer, all I know how to do is connect dots.
[36:22.000 --> 36:32.000]  And I put together a program that will kick any living lawyers behind.
[36:32.000 --> 36:37.000]  And it has no intelligence whatsoever.
[36:37.000 --> 36:40.000]  All it does is connect the dots.
[36:40.000 --> 36:45.000]  It's really simple, really straightforward.
[36:45.000 --> 36:50.000]  I haven't gotten to the intelligence part yet.
[36:50.000 --> 36:53.000]  But as I connect dots,
[36:53.000 --> 36:57.000]  I never got to a point to where I didn't have more dots to connect,
[36:57.000 --> 36:59.000]  and it's really straightforward.
[36:59.000 --> 37:03.000]  A few things that may help.
[37:03.000 --> 37:05.000]  Don't bother scraping the case law.
[37:05.000 --> 37:07.000]  Waste of time.
[37:07.000 --> 37:11.000]  Scrape the court opinions.
[37:11.000 --> 37:14.000]  That's where the law is.
[37:14.000 --> 37:16.000]  Yeah, well, I mean, that's what I meant.
[37:16.000 --> 37:21.000]  I don't understand the distinction between the two, I guess.
[37:21.000 --> 37:26.000]  Okay, how do you organize the process?
[37:26.000 --> 37:30.000]  Let me give you an example of part of the technology that I put together.
[37:30.000 --> 37:38.000]  You can go to bargrievance.website, and you'll see one of the technologies.
[37:38.000 --> 37:43.000]  Where I took the code, it's all written in statements.
[37:43.000 --> 37:47.000]  And I converted the code to a questionnaire.
[37:47.000 --> 37:50.000]  If you open the American Bar Association model standards,
[37:50.000 --> 37:54.000]  it has all these categories.
[37:54.000 --> 37:58.000]  And you read down through the categories.
[37:58.000 --> 38:02.000]  And try to pick the one that fits what you want.
[38:02.000 --> 38:06.000]  Then you go down to a sublevel set of categories
[38:06.000 --> 38:08.000]  and try to pick the one you want from that.
[38:08.000 --> 38:10.000]  Go all that crap.
[38:10.000 --> 38:13.000]  I'm going to ask you a question.
[38:13.000 --> 38:18.000]  Is your case about your relationship with your lawyer,
[38:18.000 --> 38:21.000]  your lawyer's relationship with the court,
[38:21.000 --> 38:24.000]  your lawyer's relationship with another lawyer,
[38:24.000 --> 38:28.000]  a law firm selling another law firm?
[38:28.000 --> 38:31.000]  Look through these in terms of questions.
[38:31.000 --> 38:34.000]  You're going to say no, no, no, yes.
[38:34.000 --> 38:36.000]  And when you get to yes, this is what it's about.
[38:36.000 --> 38:42.000]  Okay, so let me ask you another question and 20 questions.
[38:42.000 --> 38:45.000]  In American Bar Association standards,
[38:45.000 --> 38:52.000]  five questions I will bring you to any particular standard.
[38:52.000 --> 38:55.000]  You just walk right through the code.
[38:55.000 --> 38:59.000]  I was doing seminars in Australia,
[38:59.000 --> 39:03.000]  and they brought me down there to show them how to go after public officials.
[39:03.000 --> 39:07.000]  So they're complaining that when they file criminal complaints,
[39:07.000 --> 39:11.000]  there they called them a criminal appearance notice.
[39:11.000 --> 39:15.000]  Because in Australia, you have standing.
[39:15.000 --> 39:18.000]  You have standing as a common law public official.
[39:18.000 --> 39:22.000]  So you don't file a complaint, you file a subpoena,
[39:22.000 --> 39:24.000]  a criminal appearance notice.
[39:24.000 --> 39:27.000]  But they were complaining that if you're not a lawyer,
[39:27.000 --> 39:34.000]  then the county registrar must sign off on your criminal appearance notice
[39:34.000 --> 39:38.000]  to make sure that it meets all the statutory requirements.
[39:38.000 --> 39:42.000]  So I got 32 of the premier researchers,
[39:42.000 --> 39:48.000]  pro se researchers in Australia, we're in Sydney.
[39:48.000 --> 39:55.000]  And I said, okay, guys, under the 1992 New South Wales Crimes Act,
[39:55.000 --> 40:02.000]  what is an element of a criminal element?
[40:02.000 --> 40:06.000]  And they all just sat there and looked at me.
[40:06.000 --> 40:08.000]  They said, okay, okay, okay.
[40:08.000 --> 40:12.000]  I'm sorry, what is a fault element?
[40:12.000 --> 40:15.000]  And they just looked at me, had no idea.
[40:15.000 --> 40:24.000]  I said, okay, what is a criminal element that renders the fault element criminal?
[40:24.000 --> 40:30.000]  I said, guys, read the code.
[40:30.000 --> 40:32.000]  This came right out of their code.
[40:32.000 --> 40:35.000]  You must have an element of a crime,
[40:35.000 --> 40:41.000]  and then you must essentially have mens reis to show that the element
[40:41.000 --> 40:47.000]  that was a part of the crime was done with criminal intent.
[40:47.000 --> 40:51.000]  That's why the registrar is not signing off on your case.
[40:51.000 --> 40:56.000]  Okay, and read, looked at the code.
[40:56.000 --> 41:01.000]  The code in Australia was 600 pages.
[41:01.000 --> 41:05.000]  The criminal appeals code in Texas is about 100 pages,
[41:05.000 --> 41:09.000]  and 50% of that's white space.
[41:09.000 --> 41:16.000]  Our section on intoxication offense is about half a page.
[41:16.000 --> 41:20.000]  There's these 32 pages, a chimney, crickets.
[41:20.000 --> 41:22.000]  No wonder they don't know the code.
[41:22.000 --> 41:25.000]  This thing is huge.
[41:25.000 --> 41:30.000]  I got to looking at it and say, how can we develop a tool
[41:30.000 --> 41:39.000]  that can take you directly to the issues that are relative to your situation
[41:39.000 --> 41:42.000]  and not have to read through all this code?
[41:42.000 --> 41:47.000]  Talk to any lawyer and ask him, when you finish a brief,
[41:47.000 --> 41:51.000]  what is the one thing you fear the most?
[41:51.000 --> 41:56.000]  And they will all tell you they're afraid they missed something.
[41:56.000 --> 41:58.000]  There is so much law out there.
[41:58.000 --> 42:03.000]  They know that scoundrel on the other side is going to find what I missed
[42:03.000 --> 42:08.000]  and come back and beat me up with it.
[42:08.000 --> 42:14.000]  So how do we find through all this code
[42:14.000 --> 42:20.000]  and find the code that's relevant and not miss anything that is relevant?
[42:20.000 --> 42:25.000]  This I could do with no intelligence whatsoever.
[42:25.000 --> 42:26.000]  Just a simple set of things.
[42:26.000 --> 42:27.000]  Well, you ought to admit,
[42:27.000 --> 42:31.000]  but you don't know the code back and forth in each state,
[42:31.000 --> 42:36.000]  and there's a lot of legal scholars like you
[42:36.000 --> 42:40.000]  that have built essentially these rule bases.
[42:40.000 --> 42:42.000]  Ah, it's real easy.
[42:42.000 --> 42:45.000]  They've got the structure built in the code itself.
[42:45.000 --> 42:48.000]  Just take the code and turn it into a question.
[42:48.000 --> 42:51.000]  Yeah, well, that's exactly what this software does.
[42:51.000 --> 42:55.000]  First it builds so it does natural processing
[42:55.000 --> 42:57.000]  because not only the code is a little bit easier,
[42:57.000 --> 43:01.000]  most of it is a little easier to interpret with the software,
[43:01.000 --> 43:03.000]  but it's the opinions.
[43:03.000 --> 43:06.000]  And then also there's another element
[43:06.000 --> 43:12.000]  because most of the judges don't know the law.
[43:12.000 --> 43:17.000]  So part of it is looking at the outcomes for a judge,
[43:17.000 --> 43:19.000]  for an opposing lawyer,
[43:19.000 --> 43:25.000]  and then rating your arguments as to what's going on.
[43:25.000 --> 43:27.000]  Because you might have a hundred arguments,
[43:27.000 --> 43:30.000]  but after you get past your third one,
[43:30.000 --> 43:35.000]  the judge is not interested.
[43:35.000 --> 43:39.000]  That is the part that I haven't got to yet.
[43:39.000 --> 43:41.000]  I know it needs to be there,
[43:41.000 --> 43:44.000]  because if you're a lawyer in a jurisdiction,
[43:44.000 --> 43:47.000]  these lawyers all talk to each other,
[43:47.000 --> 43:49.000]  and what they present to the court
[43:49.000 --> 43:53.000]  is determined by the judge they've got sitting on the bench
[43:53.000 --> 43:55.000]  because they're all so different.
[43:55.000 --> 43:57.000]  Hang on, about to go to great grand account
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[46:59.000 --> 47:01.000]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio.
[47:01.000 --> 47:03.000]  We're talking to Peter in Maryland.
[47:03.000 --> 47:06.000]  This may be the wrong topic for the show,
[47:06.000 --> 47:09.000]  not going to be this off the air,
[47:09.000 --> 47:12.000]  because probably most people don't know
[47:12.000 --> 47:14.000]  what the heck we're talking about.
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.000]  But most of my long-term listeners
[47:16.000 --> 47:19.000]  have heard me talk about this electronic lawyer
[47:19.000 --> 47:22.000]  that I've been producing for a long time.
[47:22.000 --> 47:25.000]  And I've got about half of it done.
[47:25.000 --> 47:33.000]  I'm in the process now of putting together a set of apps to apply it.
[47:33.000 --> 47:42.000]  But I have a method to create the lawyer and also to promote it.
[47:42.000 --> 47:49.000]  I maintain that it is my intention to eliminate the profession of lawyer
[47:49.000 --> 47:53.000]  and get lawyers to pay me to do it.
[47:53.000 --> 47:55.000]  And I have a way to do that.
[47:55.000 --> 47:57.000]  I've got a long time in it.
[47:57.000 --> 48:03.000]  So the things I'm doing are relatively sophisticated
[48:03.000 --> 48:05.000]  and focused on this issue.
[48:05.000 --> 48:11.000]  And the reason I spoke to artificial intelligence earlier is
[48:11.000 --> 48:20.000]  and I had looked at IBM's Ross and what's his name,
[48:20.000 --> 48:23.000]  I wasn't impressed with it,
[48:23.000 --> 48:28.000]  because they don't seem to understand how law works.
[48:28.000 --> 48:33.000]  Lawyers seem to think that lawyering is an art.
[48:33.000 --> 48:36.000]  It is no such thing.
[48:36.000 --> 48:39.000]  It is an engineering project.
[48:39.000 --> 48:44.000]  The statutes are a set of tech manuals.
[48:44.000 --> 48:47.000]  And each tech manual has a set of elements.
[48:47.000 --> 48:56.000]  Every crime, every cause of action has a very specifically defined set of elements.
[48:56.000 --> 49:01.000]  And all you've got to do is ask questions that go to each one of the elements
[49:01.000 --> 49:04.000]  and you develop your case.
[49:04.000 --> 49:11.000]  And then you, every time you, we have a set of standard forms
[49:11.000 --> 49:15.000]  that are produced by litigation guides.
[49:15.000 --> 49:20.000]  Every state has several companies that produce litigation guides.
[49:20.000 --> 49:26.000]  And they have a set of forms that they use.
[49:26.000 --> 49:33.000]  I don't want any tool that will write a form, write a motion from scratch.
[49:33.000 --> 49:37.000]  The reason I don't is this judge, when he does motion hearings,
[49:37.000 --> 49:41.000]  he does that one, in one day he does all his motions hearings.
[49:41.000 --> 49:44.000]  He may have 30 motions in front of him.
[49:44.000 --> 49:46.000]  He picks up this motion.
[49:46.000 --> 49:49.000]  He does not want to read that whole document.
[49:49.000 --> 49:55.000]  He wants that document to look exactly like the one before it.
[49:55.000 --> 50:00.000]  The only difference is the particular subject matter.
[50:00.000 --> 50:06.000]  He wants the venue and jurisdiction.
[50:06.000 --> 50:10.000]  All that case law, all the standard case law, he wants standard case law.
[50:10.000 --> 50:13.000]  So he don't even have to look at it.
[50:13.000 --> 50:19.000]  So, the tel-po-se is never, ever write a motion from scratch.
[50:19.000 --> 50:25.000]  If you give a judge a motion and it's got 20 cases in it he's never seen before,
[50:25.000 --> 50:29.000]  he's going to look at that motion and say, denied.
[50:29.000 --> 50:34.000]  Now, that may not be right, but that's how it works in the world we live in.
[50:34.000 --> 50:39.000]  So, figure out how all the lawyers are doing it and do it that way.
[50:39.000 --> 50:42.000]  So, every state has a litigation guide.
[50:42.000 --> 50:46.000]  So, you take the standard forms in their litigation guide.
[50:46.000 --> 50:49.000]  You take the standard case law that they use.
[50:49.000 --> 50:57.000]  In Texas we have O'Connor's forums and they have O'Connor's civil trials.
[50:57.000 --> 50:59.000]  O'Connor's civil trials.
[50:59.000 --> 51:02.000]  You can select any motion you want.
[51:02.000 --> 51:04.000]  Open it up.
[51:04.000 --> 51:06.000]  It's got a fill in the blank section.
[51:06.000 --> 51:09.000]  If this is the case, use this paragraph.
[51:09.000 --> 51:11.000]  Else use this paragraph.
[51:11.000 --> 51:12.000]  Else use this paragraph.
[51:12.000 --> 51:15.000]  You just throw out what you don't need.
[51:15.000 --> 51:17.000]  This is all done manually.
[51:17.000 --> 51:22.000]  And for each paragraph they've got the argument, they've got the case law in it.
[51:22.000 --> 51:28.000]  And it's all of the issues that have been addressed in law.
[51:28.000 --> 51:30.000]  This has all been done already.
[51:30.000 --> 51:35.000]  So, we don't need an artificial intelligence engine to figure this out.
[51:35.000 --> 51:37.000]  It's already done.
[51:37.000 --> 51:40.000]  Ninety-nine percent of it's done.
[51:40.000 --> 51:46.000]  If you're writing a legal document and you spend very much time actually writing the document,
[51:46.000 --> 51:48.000]  you haven't done the research.
[51:48.000 --> 51:54.000]  Somebody else already wrote it for you and you probably did it better than you did.
[51:54.000 --> 51:56.000]  Because there are pros.
[51:56.000 --> 51:59.000]  They specialize in this particular area.
[51:59.000 --> 52:09.000]  So, the real key to a good electronic lawyer is plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize.
[52:09.000 --> 52:17.000]  My best documents, all I do is make connections between one judge's order,
[52:17.000 --> 52:20.000]  connection of a judge's order and the next section.
[52:20.000 --> 52:22.000]  Sometimes I have to change case.
[52:22.000 --> 52:27.000]  Sometimes I have to change plaintiff to defendant, him to her.
[52:27.000 --> 52:32.000]  But if I'm doing more than making connections, I haven't done enough homework.
[52:32.000 --> 52:39.000]  And when a judge reads it, he knows exactly what I've done.
[52:39.000 --> 52:47.000]  If I've cut this out of an order, that gives it much more authority than if I wrote it myself
[52:47.000 --> 52:51.000]  because he recognizes the style and the pattern.
[52:51.000 --> 52:56.000]  A lot of times they don't know exactly what court it came from just by the style the judge is in.
[52:56.000 --> 53:02.000]  So, my point is this is an engineering project.
[53:02.000 --> 53:04.000]  All of this has been done already.
[53:04.000 --> 53:14.000]  What we need is a structure to organize it in and then a way to follow mine through the structure.
[53:14.000 --> 53:17.000]  Does that make sense, Peter?
[53:17.000 --> 53:23.000]  Well, that's what these legal ontologies are is that structure,
[53:23.000 --> 53:28.000]  a structural format of the basic legal principles.
[53:28.000 --> 53:35.000]  But we're creatures and the judges and other lords are creatures of logic and emotion.
[53:35.000 --> 53:45.000]  If you ever have had conversations with Marvin Minsky, this famous cybernetic guy at MIT.
[53:45.000 --> 53:50.000]  So, one of the things is a strategy.
[53:50.000 --> 53:55.000]  You know, I had beaten these foreclosure lords at their own game
[53:55.000 --> 54:00.000]  and they pulled in the Philadelphia guy who picked apart some area I wasn't even looking at
[54:00.000 --> 54:04.000]  because I don't have the whole body of law.
[54:04.000 --> 54:09.000]  And right now I'm looking at the file of tortious interference of a contract
[54:09.000 --> 54:12.000]  and I guess it's called venue shopping.
[54:12.000 --> 54:17.000]  So, the elements of the proof, you know,
[54:17.000 --> 54:22.000]  tortious interference is different from state to state and federal court.
[54:22.000 --> 54:29.000]  How is it, you know, and then I have the Deutsche Bank out in California.
[54:29.000 --> 54:31.000]  I've got Impact Funding down in Florida.
[54:31.000 --> 54:38.000]  I've got Aquin and this other perpetrator from GMAC in Pennsylvania.
[54:38.000 --> 54:42.000]  How do I go through all that case law and all those venues,
[54:42.000 --> 54:44.000]  whether it's federal court or state court,
[54:44.000 --> 54:50.000]  it would be nice to push a button and have a system that did that for me.
[54:50.000 --> 54:55.000]  And I'm talking about, you know, 100,000 pro se litigants.
[54:55.000 --> 55:06.000]  It's death by a thousand cuts is the approach I was looking at
[55:06.000 --> 55:11.000]  because you might have the best legal logical argument,
[55:11.000 --> 55:19.000]  but the lawyer was sitting there and he was telling the woman judge how smart she was.
[55:19.000 --> 55:23.000]  And that probably had more effect than the legal argument.
[55:23.000 --> 55:25.000]  So, you know.
[55:25.000 --> 55:29.000]  I have a set of tools for that.
[55:29.000 --> 55:34.000]  It goes to how you construct your document.
[55:34.000 --> 55:38.000]  First thing you start with is when someone comes to me and wants me to help them,
[55:38.000 --> 55:43.000]  the first thing I want is a timeline.
[55:43.000 --> 55:45.000]  I really want a state of facts,
[55:45.000 --> 55:51.000]  but if I ask for a statement of facts, I get argument and opinion.
[55:51.000 --> 55:55.000]  But if I ask for a timeline, I generally get a statement of facts.
[55:55.000 --> 55:57.000]  This happened, this happened, this happened.
[55:57.000 --> 55:59.000]  Don't give me any argument.
[55:59.000 --> 56:01.000]  Just tell me what happened and when.
[56:01.000 --> 56:07.000]  Now, we're going to take that and we're going to make up a story you want to tell.
[56:07.000 --> 56:09.000]  And we write out this story,
[56:09.000 --> 56:12.000]  and this has all the arguments and the conclusions in it.
[56:12.000 --> 56:16.000]  Now, let's go, once you have the story,
[56:16.000 --> 56:21.000]  let's go to our statement of facts and pick those facts out
[56:21.000 --> 56:28.000]  that if an ordinary person of reasonable prudence reads these facts one after the other,
[56:28.000 --> 56:31.000]  they will try to develop referential index.
[56:31.000 --> 56:34.000]  They'll try to figure out how these fit together.
[56:34.000 --> 56:39.000]  And it will lead them to draw logical conclusions.
[56:39.000 --> 56:42.000]  Whether they believe this is the case or not,
[56:42.000 --> 56:45.000]  they'll try to stitch these together so they make sense.
[56:45.000 --> 56:48.000]  Okay, then you move that over and you look at,
[56:48.000 --> 56:50.000]  when you write your argument,
[56:50.000 --> 56:54.000]  if you're arguing the same conclusions
[56:54.000 --> 56:59.000]  that a reasonable person would come to by reading those facts,
[56:59.000 --> 57:01.000]  if I say it, it could be a lie.
[57:01.000 --> 57:03.000]  But if you think it is true,
[57:03.000 --> 57:05.000]  they're going to think you're pretty smart
[57:05.000 --> 57:10.000]  because you're stating the same conclusion I just came to.
[57:10.000 --> 57:14.000]  They don't necessarily know you set up your statement of facts that way.
[57:14.000 --> 57:19.000]  Statement of facts is a heart form.
[57:19.000 --> 57:22.000]  But we have a set of points.
[57:22.000 --> 57:24.000]  Go ahead.
[57:24.000 --> 57:29.000]  Well, one of the issues is even finding facts.
[57:29.000 --> 57:33.000]  Most pros and pros have no idea what the facts they should even be looking for,
[57:33.000 --> 57:38.000]  so having a system that go out and gather the facts from the records is one thing.
[57:38.000 --> 57:43.000]  But I did an expert system for designing test systems
[57:43.000 --> 57:46.000]  for like the stealth bomber and stuff for Hewlett Packard,
[57:46.000 --> 57:49.000]  and they had the best engineers in the world working on it.
[57:49.000 --> 57:51.000]  They had all set a rule of thumbs.
[57:51.000 --> 57:53.000]  They were just like you.
[57:53.000 --> 57:58.000]  They said there's no way you can have the software to do this better than I did.
[57:58.000 --> 58:01.000]  It was taking them 18 months to design the systems.
[58:01.000 --> 58:03.000]  I had the automated system.
[58:03.000 --> 58:06.000]  I just gleaned all the rules.
[58:06.000 --> 58:09.000]  You still meet that human to give you all the rules,
[58:09.000 --> 58:14.000]  but I had them generating better designs for these test systems
[58:14.000 --> 58:17.000]  in six months than they had done before.
[58:17.000 --> 58:21.000]  But I basically organized the knowledge that was already the rules of thumb
[58:21.000 --> 58:24.000]  that were already in their heads.
[58:24.000 --> 58:29.000]  I just extracted it out, and I extracted it from a dozen different engineers.
[58:29.000 --> 58:33.000]  And so that's what I'm talking about putting out on a grander scale.
[58:33.000 --> 58:39.000]  So, you know, we can't clone a hundred of you.
[58:39.000 --> 58:43.000]  No, no, all of this is in a tool.
[58:43.000 --> 58:46.000]  I have a tool for doing this.
[58:46.000 --> 59:00.000]  Wait, we're going to break. We'll be right back.
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[01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.000]  Trump said during his meeting with trade executives that,
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[01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:31.000]  Andy Kelton, you are radio and talking to Peter in Maryland.
[01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:37.000]  And I'm still not sure, okay, we were talking when we went out.
[01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.000]  Let's pick up.
[01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  I'm still not sure of the specifics of how you're doing.
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:50.000]  Yeah, well, maybe we can talk offline about the whole software approach,
[01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:57.000]  but maybe getting back to my situation, I was reading on the break,
[01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:00.000]  the statute of limitations are normally three years in Maryland,
[01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.000]  but sealed contracts are 12 years, but they just passed the law in 2014.
[01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.000]  That doesn't include deeds of trust.
[01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  So maybe that's an approach, but have I lost the...
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:18.000]  Okay, on your case, let me make a suggestion.
[01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  I've helped over 700 people file federal lawsuits,
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:25.000]  and the courts will throw them all out.
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.000]  Rule 12b6, motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim.
[01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:36.000]  The one thing the bank wants to stay away from is discovery.
[01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.000]  And they're going to do everything they can to get that tossed,
[01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:43.000]  and they got the federal judges bought and paid for.
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.000]  So I've taken a different approach.
[01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:50.000]  Look at the documents filed in the public record.
[01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:58.000]  It is my opinion that the issue of MERS and securitization is the rabbit hole
[01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  the bank wants you to go down because they do not want you looking at their filings
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  in the public record because that's where they screwed it up at.
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.000]  I haven't read the specific law in Maryland,
[01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:15.000]  but every state has a law similar to this one.
[01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  In Texas, property code 13.001 says,
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:27.000]  any claim against real property not properly acknowledged or proven,
[01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  acknowledged notary, proven to witnesses,
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  and filed in the public record is void as to the holder.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.000]  So, Deutsche Bank, I don't care what you got.
[01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  I don't care if you are the true, genuine, and bona fide holder.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:49.000]  If you don't have a clear and uninterrupted chain of title in the public record,
[01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  you can use that claim for toilet paper.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  So that is the first place I want to go.
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:00.000]  So I want to look for the original lender.
[01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:07.000]  The bank set up these lending companies to create these loans,
[01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  and then the lending company sold the loan to the bank at a loss,
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.000]  and then they bankrupted the lending company.
[01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  That was a big IRS scam.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:18.000]  But the result of it was it's got all these lending companies
[01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  that are just going out of business left and right.
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.000]  Most profitable time in real estate history,
[01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  and these guys are going out of business left and right.
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.000]  So I want to find, I want to look at the original lender,
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  and then look at the first assignment that I see,
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.000]  and go back and see if that original lender went out of business
[01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  before that assignment was made.
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  Judge Schreck in New York called them vampire lenders.
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  A corporation is a person under law.
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  Well, the person died.
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  Merz is an agent for the person, but he's a dead guy.
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  You can't be an agent for a dead guy.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:02.000]  That's real simple.
[01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  So the way you get to it is,
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.000]  you say I have an assignment for Merz for a company that's out of business.
[01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.000]  Washington Mutual.
[01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:20.000]  Washington Mutual went out of business, and Chase bought all the assets.
[01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:27.000]  Okay, was this note an asset of Washington Mutual
[01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000]  when it went out of business?
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:33.000]  Was it in their portfolio, or did they sell it to somebody?
[01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  Show me an uninterrupted chain of title in the county record,
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:44.000]  and you won't find one because Washington Mutual didn't assign anything.
[01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  So you take the assignment that you see,
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.000]  Merz comes along later and files the assignment,
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  and you file the petition for declaratory judgment.
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:01.000]  All you want the court to do is declare the rights of the parties.
[01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  I just filed criminal charges.
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  I sent it to the special agent in charge in Dallas
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  against federal judge John McBride
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  for dismissing my quiet title action for failure to state a claim
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  in which recovery can't be had.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  He dismissed it with prejudice.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  Duh! It's a quiet title.
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  I asked the court to declare the rights of the parties.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  I didn't make a claim.
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.000]  It's declaratory judgment. There are no claims.
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  That's the whole point.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.000]  In the Fed, it's 28 U.S.C. 2201.
[01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  It creates a special right.
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.000]  You can come to the court without a controversy
[01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  and ask the court to declare the rights of the parties.
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  The magic of that is it gets you past the Rule 12b6
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  and gets you into discovery.
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  Once you get the bank in discovery, they're screwed
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:14.000]  because you're going to ask them to show agency standing
[01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  and capacity by the public record, and they cannot do it.
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  They're going to say,
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.000]  well, I got this chain of assignments.
[01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  I got all these enlarges.
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  We can wipe you behind with those enlarges.
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  If they're not in the public record,
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  if it's not filed in the record,
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.000]  then you can use it for toilet paper.
[01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  That's the first place I want to go,
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.000]  and I do it with a quiet title action.
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  Make no claim at all.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.000]  You don't ask for attorney fees.
[01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  You don't ask for anything.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  You ask for anything, and they'll toss it under Rule 12b6.
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  You don't ask for declaration of the parties.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  So if you want, I will send you one.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  Actually, I'll send you my who's on first argument.
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  Who's on first?
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  We don't know.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  What's on second?
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:11.000]  But anybody's will be in the outfield, but I don't give a damn.
[01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  Anyway, that's the place I would look first.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:20.000]  Well, the problem is I didn't have standing and timeliness
[01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  to raise some of these issues in the courts over,
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  but to do a quiet title,
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  I would have to spend $8,000 to record them.
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  Yeah, I'll send you one.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  Piece of cake.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  No, but I would have to spend $8,000 to record my...
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  Okay, the person that had the property.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  Yeah.
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  Can you just file it in their name?
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:51.000]  One of the things I always include...
[01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:52.000]  I'm not an attorney.
[01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:57.000]  I can't represent him.
[01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  If the other person files it, then you're not representing him.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:09.000]  And I always put in an objection to oral argument
[01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  and move the court to rule on the pleadings.
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:15.000]  In the federal court, they don't want oral argument.
[01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  They want to rule on the pleading.
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  And there's always a section in the federal pleadings
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  concerning oral argument.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  If you want oral argument, you have to specifically ask for it.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  I specifically object to it.
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  Move the court to rule on the pleadings so they never see you.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  They don't want to see you.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  So in the federal court, that works good.
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  Just ask this other guy to sign it.
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.000]  You don't have to go to court.
[01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000]  Just file it.
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:52.000]  And that puts the brakes on them big time.
[01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  And if the judge dismisses it for failure to state a claim,
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:59.000]  you file a criminal charge with the local FBI agent.
[01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  When the local FBI agent doesn't act under 28 U.S.C. 535
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.000]  and send it to the attorney general,
[01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  then you file against the FBI agent with the U.S. attorney.
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  And when he doesn't give it to the attorney general,
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  you file against him and just get everybody PO'd.
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  In the end, it's all politics.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:20.000]  Okay.
[01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.000]  First, the guy, the reason he gave me the house,
[01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  he wanted it out of his life.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:31.000]  I mean, the original bar owner, so that's an issue.
[01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  The other thing is how about a tortious interference of the contract
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:43.000]  that I have with the seller, I mean, by them committing a fraud,
[01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  and then, you know, and or do I look at when they come
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  and send me an eviction notice, I have 30 days to respond,
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  you know, because I just don't think it's in the cards for him to...
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  Okay.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  Here's the way to do that.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.000]  They come to you with an eviction notice,
[01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  and you say, who the heck are you?
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.000]  I don't know who you are.
[01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:17.000]  You claim you have authority to evict me based on this foreclosure,
[01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  but when I look at the foreclosure, it's fraudulent on its face.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:29.000]  Now, you won't have standing to adjudicate the fraud in the foreclosure,
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  but you do have standing to challenge the jurist,
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:41.000]  the standing of the person to order you to leave the property.
[01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.000]  Yeah, because I'm a tenant.
[01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:48.000]  I have rights, you know, under the tenant rights, both federal and...
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  Now, you go back and say, this guy's an interloper.
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:58.000]  He claims to have bought it at auction, but the auction sale was void on his face
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  because the trustee didn't have standing to sell the property.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:09.000]  That will get you back into all of those issues.
[01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000]  It may or may not.
[01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  If I was in New York or California where the judges are a little more, you know,
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.000]  well, you know, they're better at their treated craft than in Maryland, you know.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.000]  Here's the deal.
[01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  I tell everybody, you should expect the court to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000]  That's expected.
[01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  Maybe they won't.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  And that's a nice thing if they don't.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:41.000]  But at the end of the day, one side or the other is going to appeal,
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  so your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.000]  We don't care what that judge does.
[01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  Screw him.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  You just set the record for appeal.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  I got a guy in California who seven years ago I did a seminar out there,
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.000]  and he said he went with me because I told everybody,
[01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:09.000]  if somebody comes in here and promises you they can get you this result
[01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  and they can get you that result, don't walk away from them.
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.000]  Run away from them.
[01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  The courts are corrupt.
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.000]  They're going to do what they're paid to do, and the banks have bought them.
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.000]  So he went with me.
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:27.000]  I filed my four-page who the heck are you suit.
[01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  I don't know who you are.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  I never entered into a contract with you,
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  never entered into a contract with your alleged principal.
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:38.000]  That was five, six years ago.
[01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:43.000]  We just got turned down by the California Supreme.
[01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  And during this time, there was no injunction against foreclosure.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  They could have foreclosed at any time,
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  but they didn't because this suit was hanging them up.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.000]  Now they can't.
[01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  Time is up.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  The point is you can keep these guys in court until they get old.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  You filed the action.
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:15.000]  They've already mentioned cash for keys already because of that,
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  but I'm much more interested in killing to life,
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:25.000]  not just taking one of his stolen toys away.
[01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.000]  Okay.
[01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  Now we get to the part where I live.
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[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  How many?
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Excuse me?
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  Bar grievances?
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[01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  Randy Kelton, Heated Law Radio, and Peter, we're getting to the good part.
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  You know, if you file a bar grievance against a lawyer,
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  the state bar is going to get that grievance, and they're going to throw it in the trash.
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  And they're going to send you this letter back that says,
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:02.000]  be examined into your accusation and find that it does not rise to the level of misconduct.
[01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  And that's a good thing.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:13.000]  The reason it's a good thing is their insurance carrier knows they'll throw it in the trash.
[01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  So how does the insurance carrier gauge its level of risk?
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:21.000]  By valid bar grievances? They can throw them all in the trash.
[01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  By the numbers.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  There are nine underwriters of malpractice insurance in the U.S. for illegal malpractice.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  All of them are underwritten by Lloyds of London.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  They all have the same.
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  One bar grievance your first year of practice, they'll cancel immediately.
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  Two, if any one year of practice, they'll cancel.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  Three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  And malpractice starts around 25 grand a year.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  Oh, that is so horrible for lawyers.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  And we have the Mike Handel is in court.
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  This prosecutor is on the stand and won't tell him what his name is.
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  And Mike finally asked the judge, your honor, will you instruct counsel to state his name?
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:24.000]  And the judge said, well, counselor, oh, your honor, I'm going to get out of prosecutor's office next month.
[01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  And if I tell him my name, he'll start filing bar grievances against me.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  So the judge turned to Mike and told him his name.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.000]  Bar grievances are horrible for lawyers, terrifies them.
[01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  If you file a bar grievance against a lawyer and the lawyer says one word to you about it or one word to the judge about it,
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  you bar grieve him for that and ask the court for sanctions.
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  So it's like you both go into court and he gets behind his table and you get behind yours.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  And before court starts, you walk over and kick him while squaring his behind.
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  And you go back to your table, he's going to stand there and act like you didn't do it.
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  A friend of mine several years ago had trouble with a lawyer.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.000]  He filed a grievance against him.
[01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  Far as he could tell, nothing happened.
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  Five years later, he's a election judge.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  And one of the other elections judges was the head of a law firm that this lawyer was in the process of joining.
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.000]  They found out they had that mutual acquaintance.
[01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:33.000]  And he told the guy about the bar grievance and said it didn't make any difference.
[01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  He said this law firm head said he leaned across the table and said, Mr. Magnuson, you hurt him far more than you can imagine.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  If you're a lawyer, you've got three bar grievances in your career.
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  No law firm in the country will touch you with a 10-foot pole.
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:04.000]  Bad news for lawyers. Judicial conduct complaints for judges.
[01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.000]  Bad news. They've got a bond.
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  The only way I've heard of getting rid of a federal judge is to get his bond rating canceled.
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:21.000]  You hit him with your judicial conduct complaint, his bond rating goes up.
[01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  And they can't do anything about it.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  You are the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  And if they do one thing you think is illegal?
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  Peter, you just haven't lived until you stood in the courtroom, turned to the bailiff and said, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:46.000]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did. Arrest that judge.
[01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  Montgomery County, Conroe, Texas, they stopped a murder trial to hear my habeas corpus, the one that's on my website.
[01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  And the judge said, Mr. Kelton, are you an attorney?
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  Oh, no, Judge. I sleep well at night, keep hands in my own pockets. Thank you very much.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  Well, Mr. Kelton, since you're not an attorney except as habeas.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.000]  Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did.
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.000]  Arrest that judge. Well, I can't arrest a judge.
[01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  Sure you can. Just go up there and drag him off the bench and throw him in the cusp and toss him in jail.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  You don't have far to go. It's right down in the basement.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.000]  Oh, I can't arrest a judge.
[01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  I said, well, Mr. Bailiff, life is filled with little decisions. We all get to make some.
[01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  Your turn. Are you going to keep the peace in the courtroom and arrest that judge for violating 39.03 penal code?
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  Are you going to seal that judge for prosecution violation 38.05 penal code?
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:48.000]  Your call? Well, I'm not going to arrest a judge.
[01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  So, OK. And then the judge said, Mr. Bailiff, if Mr. Kelton doesn't get out of my courtroom, you to arrest him.
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  I said, with all due respect, Your Honor, that's cheating.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  He picked up the gavel. Maybe it is, but I got the gavel.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.000]  Good point. I turned to the bailiff. You come with me.
[01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:15.000]  That was I have probably done that 10 or 15 times in court.
[01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  Never once have I had a judge open his mouth while I've tried to get the bailiff to investigate.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:28.000]  Because he knows he knows and he knows that I know one word out of him.
[01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:39.000]  Obstruction. Witness tampering. Both of them felons. You have more power as a pro se than you can imagine.
[01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  And you can keep these guys in court until they get old.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  You file an action. They got 30 days, Monday after the 20th day to file an answer.
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:26:00.000]  Then you've got 30 days in the state, generally, or 10 days in the Fed to file a response to their answers.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:06.000]  And then the judge is going to take 60 to 90 days to give a render.
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:10.000]  I'm sorry. They will file a motion to dismiss always.
[01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  And then you'll file an opposition to the motion to dismiss. They got 30 days to file the motion.
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:18.000]  You got another 30 days to file the opposition.
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  Then the judge spends 60 to 90 days responding to it. You're almost a year already.
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  And the judge is going to rule against you. And then you file a motion for reconsideration.
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  And he's going to take another 60 to 90 days. The other side got 30 days to file a response.
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.000]  Then you've got 60 to 90 days on that one.
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  75 days in text is overruled as a matter of law. And then you file a notice of appeal.
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  And then you got generally 30 days to file a notice of appeal.
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  And then you got 90 days to file the appeal.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  And then they got 60 days to file a response on and on and on.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  They just keep them in court forever. That's the one thing you can do.
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.000]  You start bar grieving them. They're going to fire their attorneys.
[01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  They're going to quit. They're going to hire more expensive ones.
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:19.000]  Then you go to them and say, let's make a deal.
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:26.000]  Okay. Now the attorney from Pennsylvania, do I file in the bar in Pennsylvania?
[01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  He was admitted on the appearance in the Maryland court.
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  Was he admitted in Maryland pro-hack visae?
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.000]  Yeah, he was admitted by the judge.
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  Okay. So you filed in Pennsylvania. If it's pro-hack visae,
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  that's when you're licensed to practice law in another state
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.000]  and you asked for permission to address this issue in this state.
[01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:03.000]  So if that's what he did, then you filed in Pennsylvania.
[01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  Oh, it was Steve Good.
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000]  The rest of the lawyers I filed in Maryland.
[01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000]  I'm not sure what I would...
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.000]  Basically, the law was in Maryland.
[01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:24.000]  The statute says the judge has the ability to review the false affidavits on its own.
[01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  But it says that the judge may. It doesn't say the judge shall.
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.000]  Okay. Okay. Look carefully.
[01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  Evidence of fraud?
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  No. When it says may, that can be optional or it can be permissive.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  If it's permissive, then someone else is commanded to do something.
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:57.000]  And may means under these circumstances, you can do that thing you're commanded to do.
[01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  It doesn't necessarily mean may or may not.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  It means you do have the authority to do what you're ordered to do.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  So look carefully where it says may. Does that make sense?
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  Well, it doesn't answer the question.
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:24.000]  Okay. The thing is, you get to ask these legal questions.
[01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  And the best questions to ask are the ones that haven't been asked before.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  And here's the reason.
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  Lawyers specialize because lawyers are terrified of missing something.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:43.000]  You could miss something. You're just a pro se.
[01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  You're not learning counsel. He misses something. He can get sued.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  His client will sue him or the judge will sanction him.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  They're terrified of missing something, so they don't take on unusual issues.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:30:02.000]  Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:31.000]  Okay, we are back. Lady Kelvin with Logos Radio. We're talking to Peter in Maryland. You might be able to tell this is one of my favorite sections.
[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  I really do like kicking their behinds every week from Sunday.
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  And there is a problem when you start doing this. It can get to be way too much fun.
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:34:01.000]  If you go in and expect the judge to rule against you, and then when he rules against you, you hammer him, he's going to sit back there and say, they set me up for that.
[01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:07.000]  The most powerful thing I've done in Fort Worth is Tarrant County.
[01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:17.000]  And I went into court with another guy I worked with. We were stopping foreclosures. And his, we were trying to stop evictions. His hearing was first.
[01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:23.000]  So he goes up and sits down. And I had known about this judge for years. He's a real arrogant jerk.
[01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  So I walked up to the bar and stood there. Finally, the judge looked up and said, can I help you?
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:33.000]  Yes, Your Honor, my name is Randy Kelton, and I have a hearing deficiency.
[01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:44.000]  Well, Mr. Kelton, just what's wrong with your hearing? Oh, Judge, I was down in Mexico the other day, and I drank too much. I chewed tequila and lost my hearing aid.
[01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:51.000]  Well, I was lying ahead in my pocket. Well, Mr. Kelton, why are you telling me this? Do you have accommodation for the hearing impaired?
[01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  No, Mr. Kelton, I do not.
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  Well, I see you have a sound system here. Will you turn it up?
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.000]  No, I will not.
[01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.000]  Well, then will you speak up?
[01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  And he did. I told the bailiff, I didn't say I'd shut up. He said, show me out of the courtroom.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:15.000]  They finished David's hearing. They called me up. They start to hear an objection, Your Honor. I'm here at ArmsLink through the court.
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.000]  I have a challenge subject matter jurisdiction before the court.
[01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:23.000]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, you just filed that 30 minutes ago. Yes, Your Honor. As a matter of fact, that's it.
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  Well, I'm going to deny that.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000]  To you to deny that challenge, subject matter jurisdiction is now reading. Yes, Mr. Kelton, I am.
[01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.000]  I'm going to slam my folder shut. We're done here.
[01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  I get to the bar and point to the bailiff. You, come with me.
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:45.000]  I walk to the door and the bailiff is looking confused. I turn around. Well, OK, OK.
[01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:51.000]  So we go outside and the bailiff said, what can I do for you, Mr. Kelton? I need you to arrest the judge.
[01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  Why would I arrest a judge? Class A misdemeanor, official oppression, criminal violation, 3903 Penal Code,
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  in that he failed to perform a duty he was required to perform and in the process denied me the full and free access to or enjoyment of a right.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:15.000]  Well, Mr. Kelton, what right did he deny you in? He denied me in my right to accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
[01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:21.000]  The bailiff said, well, Mr. Kelton, why didn't you tell the judge about the Americans with Disabilities Act?
[01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  Heck, if I'd have done that, he might have turned the sound up.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  The bailiff stood there a minute and this grin come across his face. You silly man.
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  Excuse me. He said, yeah, as a matter of fact, I did. He was a sucker for that one, wasn't he?
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:52.000]  After, every time I go into a court, used to the bailiffs would kind of gather around me, all of them back off.
[01:36:52.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  They would try to find another place to be. Nobody wants to see me. These guys are terrified of you if you take them on.
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  They find out you're the pro se from hell and that's what we try to show people how to be. They want to run from you because you ruined their careers.
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:20.000]  There's more to this. I'm going to run out of time today, but there's a lot more in how to go after them.
[01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:34.000]  The criminal process, if that judge renders a ruling that fails to, okay, the judge has two duties. Determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence.
[01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  Apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case. Do so.
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  And in the process denies you the full free access to enjoyment of a right. That's a crime in every state.
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:53.000]  In the Fed, it's 18 U.S. Code 242, the Ku Klux Klan Act. It's kind of a catch-all.
[01:37:53.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  But the judge will say, oh, well, if you don't like my ruling, you can appeal to the Court of Appeals.
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  I told the head criminal district judge in Travis County, I said, I got a better idea. I'll appeal to the grand jury.
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:11.000]  They were talking about a sheriff not taking a complaint.
[01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:21.000]  I said, well, Mr. Coven, you can't appeal to the grand jury. Sure I can. I can appeal to the grand jury to arrest the sheriff for felony shielding from prosecution.
[01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:26.000]  And the judge sat back in his seat and looked at me and I could tell what he's thinking.
[01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  If I have my bail to shoot this guy, can I get away with it?
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  Well, the Bible says if you take someone to court, you may end up in jail yourself. So go talk to them and try to work it out.
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:51.000]  OK, this is what happens. If you try to defend yourself, you may wind up in jail.
[01:38:51.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  But if you set them up, if I get in court and the judge raises his voice to me, he gets to the judicial condo.
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  He is a public servant, the prosecutor, the clerk, the bait. If they're all public servants, they're the servants.
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:14.000]  I'm the master. You'll reach your voice to me. You work for me.
[01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  You determine the facts in accordance with rules of evidence, apply the laws, it comes to you the facts of the case.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  You can't do that. Get yourself down off that bench and get yourself replaced with a competent jurist.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.000]  I have a right to in the first instance. I will file on them in a heartbeat.
[01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  And I have no problem with asking the bailiff to arrest a judge.
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:36.000]  Actually, I have great fun asking the bailiff to arrest a judge.
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:45.000]  And one thing I always do when he refuses is I ask the bailiff to take his chicken suit off.
[01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:55.000]  And the reason I ask him to take his chicken suit off is because he's going to want to say that Mr. Kelton was agitated.
[01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:03.000]  The same day I pulled that trick on Judge Hayes, the bailiff wouldn't take my complaint, so I went to the city of Mansfield.
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  They sent this cop out, one of those tight-skinned, red-faced, angry cops, and he wouldn't take my complaint.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  And I told him, well, if you're not going to take my complaint, what did they send you for? You're worthless. Send me a real policeman.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:31.000]  No, he was furious. He said, I am a real policeman. I said, if you're a real policeman, then you need to take your chicken suit off and do your job.
[01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:40.000]  I get home that night, and Ken Magnuson called me. His brother is the city attorney for Mansfield.
[01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  And Ken said, what were you doing in Mansfield today? Minded my business, Ken.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  Well, Craig said that officer told him you were agitated.
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  I said, Ken, ask Craig, ask that officer if I got agitated before I asked him to take his chicken suit off or after.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  You said that to him? I always say that to them.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  I've kind of got this down. When you start filing against them, they duck and run for cover, especially if you file against a judge.
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  Once I file against a judge, if anyone says anything to me that I can in any way construe as a threat, if somebody tries to give me legal advice, I got a 911.
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  Ask them to come out and arrest the judge. That judge sent this officer out here to harass me because I filed charges against him.
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  The best complaint you can file against a judge is one where the judge is totally innocent.
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  He finds out I'm filing against him because of this officer. He is going to go ballistic and he's going to rip that law officer's tongue out.
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:08.000]  Then they will give you a wide berth.
[01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:14.000]  David, in that hearing, that judge had put him in jail three times.
[01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:22.000]  He put me in cuffs once and uncuffed me 10 minutes later when he said, Mr. Counselor, are you recording this proceedings?
[01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.000]  Yes, I am.
[01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:26.000]  Bailey, arrest him.
[01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  Ten minutes later, they took the cuffs off of me, apologized to me, and let me leave the courtroom.
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:38.000]  I immediately called 911 and asked for a sheriff to arrest the judge.
[01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  Once they find out you're the pro se from hell, they're going to want rid of you.
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  The whole point of this is let's make a deal.
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:54.000]  If anybody is expected to win the whole enchilada, that's not going to happen.
[01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:00.000]  Do I have an equal protection argument?
[01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:08.000]  The fact that they had three judges construe the first two judges reviewed my power of attorney and said it was fine,
[01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  but they did nothing to review the standing that was challenged by the plaintiff parties.
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:21.000]  Is that misconduct?
[01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  If a judge ruled that your power of attorney was sufficient, that's res judicata.
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  Another judge cannot visit that.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  So challenge this ruling by the judge because you acted in good faith's reliance on res judicata.
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  The judge can't come along later and change the ruling of another judge.
[01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  Look up res judicata.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:57.000]  I do need to move on. I've got one more caller that's been waiting a long time.
[01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:00.000]  Call me off the air.
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[01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're going to Tom in Texas.
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  Hello, Tom. What do you have for us today?
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  Hey, good evening, Randy. Thanks for taking my call.
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  What I have done is I have begun the process of having my appraisal or having my property removed from the appraisal rows in Montgomery County, Texas.
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:47:04.000]  I just sent in my county tax under protest and my mud tax under protest along with a short brief and combined with a number of questions and an information request.
[01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  Have you brought forward the land patent?
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  I have not.
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:20.000]  Go to Austin and the land office there will show you how to bring forth a land patent.
[01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:30.000]  And then send a letter to the tax collector asking the tax collector if they have a claim against your property.
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:37.000]  You need to do this when there are no taxes owed against it or there are no delinquent taxes.
[01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  And they'll send you back a letter saying no, they don't, then you send them a letter telling them to remove your tax from the public rows and put it on the private rows.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:55.000]  That's my information on how to get that done.
[01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  Okay, well, I did tell them, I did in my notice under protest, I said this is private property.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  It's not real property. It's not private real property. It's not residential real property.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  Does it have a title on it?
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:20.000]  Do you have a warranty deed filed in the public record?
[01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  Yeah, there's a warranty deed.
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  And it has a title and the state has a claim.
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  That's what a title is. It's a claim against the property. When Texas was originated, they gave out a lot of land grants.
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  And they also sold a lot of property, but people couldn't pay for it all at once.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:46.000]  So they let them pay at it over time. And the mortgage with the state was the title.
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:53.000]  And once the property was paid off, they could remove the title, but nobody did.
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  They just left it on there because the title is what had caused it to be registered with the county recorder's office.
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  If you bring forward the land patent, then the title comes out of the land office.
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  It's real hard to sell the property. So nobody...
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:20.000]  Okay. Nobody pulls the title. So if you need to bring forth the land patent, pull the title,
[01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  then request that your property be put on the private tax rules.
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:32.000]  Okay. Now, but I'm hoping some of this will help.
[01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  The public information request, I asked for a copy of the laws, statutes, rules, policies, documents, et cetera.
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  That doesn't fall under open records. They don't have to give it to me.
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:45.000]  I'm sorry?
[01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  That comes under open records and they don't have to give you legal advice under open records.
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  Matter of fact, they're not allowed to give you legal advice.
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.000]  Well, I'm just trying to find out what they're using as evidence.
[01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  I understand. I understand. But you can't...
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  You can't do this by law. You can't ask them to give you the law. That's the law.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:23.000]  That's it. You have to find it yourself.
[01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  Okay. I guess what I'm trying to ask them is what authority are they using to classify me as a taxpayer?
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  What I'm telling you is you can ask them that question, but they have no duty to respond.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  You have to bring a controversy to a court.
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  You have to bring evidence to show that you don't fall under the taxing scheme.
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  And then that creates the controversy that you could bring to the court. Now they have to prove up their authority.
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:13.000]  Okay. So I can't just ask them to prove up their authority then just with a question.
[01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:20.000]  I have to have something in court. I really don't want to do this in a state court or a local court.
[01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  I'd rather do it in a federal court.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  You can't. This is a state issue, and the federal court has no power to rule on state property.
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:35.000]  You don't want them to.
[01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  The seminal case was the North Richard Hills Mall in Tarrant County, Fort Worth.
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:50.000]  They had a mall there, and there's a bunch of property below it. There's a housing development.
[01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  The mall wanted to extend down the pipeline road, so they wanted to buy out all this property.
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:03.000]  People didn't want to sell. They petitioned the city, and the city took it by eminent domain.
[01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:08.000]  The people got together and sued, took it all the way to the U.S. Supreme.
[01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  The U.S. Supreme picked it up, and they said, this is a state issue. It's not our business.
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000]  We are not going to preempt state law.
[01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  If you want the law changed, you have to change state law. You can't ask us to do it.
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  When that came down, we had all these patriot guys all whining and crying,
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  saying, oh, they're stealing private property.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  I said, maybe, but the Fed did exactly the right thing.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  They stayed out of state business.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  We don't want the state running over us.
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:53.000]  When it comes to real property in the state, the Fed has zero authority.
[01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:59.000]  But mine is private property and not real property.
[01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  What? Oh, yeah, it is real property. If it's land, land is real property.
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  An object on the land that's not physically connected to the land is private property.
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:18.000]  But land is not being held or used for the production of income.
[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  It doesn't make any difference.
[01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  That's what you're trying to change the definition of terms.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  Real property is defined in Texas as real estate, and anything affixed to the real estate,
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:43.000]  an improvement, a building, a pipeline, anything affixed to the ground is real property.
[01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:50.000]  Things that are on the property that are movable, that's all private property.
[01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  That's just a definition of the difference in the properties.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:59.000]  It's not a legal status.
[01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  Well, according to Black's law, the sixth edition, it denotes a commercial activity.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  If I'm not mistaken, it may even call it a citizen's address, which sits under Black's law.
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:20.000]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. You are missing something.
[01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  First, you can't quote law. You can't quote Blacks.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  You would need to quote the case law that Blacks refers to.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:40.000]  But this is new to me. I've never heard anything equating real property with commerce.
[01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  I would have to see that. I've never heard of anything. I've never heard of that.
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:47.000]  Heard of what?
[01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:59.000]  Private home in Texas is sacrosanct. That has nothing to do with commerce.
[01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  My understanding is that the state can only control what it creates.
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:17.000]  The state can control anything that our legislators have authorized them to control.
[01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:28.000]  Our legislators acted in our name, so anything the legislators said that the state can control, they can control.
[01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  I'm not being difficult. There's a lot of patriot mythology out there.
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.000]  In the real world, it's all by contrast.
[01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  I'm actually going by what the law says.
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:45.000]  Yeah. Show me some law on your position.
[01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  I've seen no law that equates real property with commerce.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:56:00.000]  I've had over 700 people file federal lawsuits. This is not something I've ever heard of.
[01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  I know there's a fellow in Florida that had his property, plus several others, successfully removed from the appraisal rolls.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:13.000]  Yeah, you can do that.
[01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:21.000]  Yeah, I've heard a lot of people. They'd have to bring forth a loyal title, but you're in Texas.
[01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:26.000]  Texas has its own land office. We're the only state that does.
[01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:32.000]  You'd have to bring forth the land patent, because it's not hard to do.
[01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:39.000]  But the taxing authority is still going to want to tax you, so you'll get in a big fight with them.
[01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:45.000]  And once you do that, you won't have a right to police protection or fire protection,
[01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  or technically you won't have the right to use roads because you're not paying for them.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  Anything that is produced as a benefit from the state, you'll have no right to.
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:05.000]  It says that they won't provide that protection unless I pay taxes.
[01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:09.000]  Right. Or unless you either enter a private contract with them.
[01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  They're not allowed to.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  Is there a law that states that exact thing?
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  Yeah, yes. And that's the back side.
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  Which law is that?
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:22.000]  I'd have to look it up. I don't have that one memorized.
[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  But you don't get law...fire and police free. You have to pay for it.
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  Well, the commercial entities are supposed to pay for it.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.000]  Wait a minute. Say what?
[01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  The taxes that they collect from the commercial businesses should be going to fire and police protection, correct?
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  Yeah. That doesn't exclude the taxes they collect from you.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:54.000]  Yours should be too.
[01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  Well, I shouldn't be taxed. I mean, if it's my own property, and once I pay off the mortgage...
[01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.000]  That's okay. You don't have to be taxed.
[01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  But you don't get to use the benefit of my taxes if you don't pay it.
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:16.000]  Well, I don't think anybody...
[01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:20.000]  So now I'm paying for your services.
[01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:22.000]  I don't want to pay for your services.
[01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:24.000]  Well, I want police protection. I want fire protection.
[01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  I want my kids to have a school to go to. And we have to pay for all that.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:41.000]  So if you don't bring forth the title, you can't send your kids to public schools either.
[01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:45.000]  Okay. We are out of time. Randy Kelton, we love our radio.
[01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  Thank you all. I'll be back next week. Good night.
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