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[00:21.160 --> 00:26.600] Markets for Friday, the 4th of November, 2016, are currently treading with gold at $1,304.10
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[00:41.600 --> 00:46.040] Today in history, the year 1952, the United States government establishes the National
[00:46.040 --> 00:51.120] Security Agency, or NSA, an intelligence organization of the United States government responsible
[00:51.120 --> 00:55.720] for global monitoring, collection, and processing of information and data for foreign intelligence
[00:55.720 --> 01:04.080] and counterintelligence purposes. The NSA was established today in history.
[01:04.080 --> 01:08.760] In recent news, WikiLeaks just dumped part 30 of Hillary Clinton's campaign manager John
[01:08.760 --> 01:14.000] Podesta's hacked emails, bringing the total thus far to over 47,000. Julian Assange, who
[01:14.000 --> 01:18.520] still is essentially on house arrest at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, gave an interview
[01:18.520 --> 01:22.420] with Russia Today where he claims that the outcome of next Tuesday's presidential election
[01:22.420 --> 01:26.880] between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton has already been decided, saying, quote, Because
[01:26.880 --> 01:32.000] he has had every establishment off his side, Trump does not have one establishment, maybe
[01:32.000 --> 01:36.200] with the exception of the evangelicals, if you can call them an establishment. Banks,
[01:36.200 --> 01:40.900] intelligence, arms companies, foreign money, etc. are all united behind Hillary Clinton
[01:40.900 --> 01:44.840] and the media as well, media owners and the journalists themselves. This is days after
[01:44.840 --> 01:51.120] political activists discovered a hidden website for WRCB and NBC affiliate out of Chattanooga,
[01:51.120 --> 01:57.040] Tennessee, showing election results with Hillary Clinton securing 343 electoral votes and 42
[01:57.040 --> 02:00.480] percent of the popular vote. Hillary, her campaign and the media are accusing Russia
[02:00.480 --> 02:04.280] for the hacking of tens of thousands of emails that WikiLeaks has dumped out in the past
[02:04.280 --> 02:08.640] weeks. However, Julian Assange has vehemently denied any involvement from the Kremlin. A
[02:08.640 --> 02:13.520] majority of Hillary's hacked emails that have been released via WikiLeaks since March 2016
[02:13.520 --> 02:22.800] can be searched through at WikiLeaks.org forward slash Clinton dash emails. CBS News reported
[02:22.800 --> 02:26.920] earlier today that U.S. intelligence agencies have alerted joint terrorism task forces that
[02:26.920 --> 02:31.560] Al Qaeda could potentially be planning terrorist attacks in New York, Texas and Virginia for
[02:31.560 --> 02:35.920] Monday, the day before the election, though no specific cities and landmarks are mentioned.
[02:35.920 --> 02:39.520] Counterterrorism spokespersons have stated that as the election day nears, federal law
[02:39.520 --> 02:44.080] enforcement is planning for several worst-case scenarios, while earlier this week an alert
[02:44.080 --> 02:49.080] warned local police of polling places being seen as attractive targets for lone wolf type
[02:49.080 --> 02:54.440] of attacks by individuals motivated by violent extremist ideologies such as sovereign citizens.
[02:54.440 --> 03:23.000] This was Rook Rody with your Lowdown for November 4th, 2016.
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[05:32.680 --> 05:35.480] This is the rule of law.
[05:35.480 --> 05:40.360] Tonight is Thursday, November the 10th, 2016.
[05:40.360 --> 05:44.940] I am one of your hosts, Deborah Stevens, here with Randy Kelton.
[05:44.940 --> 05:52.480] And we have also held over our very good friend and also a host on this network, Mr. Tom Kiley.
[05:52.480 --> 06:01.260] He has stayed on the line with us to engage in a little post-election analysis and discussion.
[06:01.260 --> 06:03.840] Thanks for hanging in there with us, Tom.
[06:03.840 --> 06:10.000] Well, Deborah and Randy, thank you, but mostly Deborah for providing everybody there in Austin
[06:10.000 --> 06:11.280] and all over the world.
[06:11.280 --> 06:18.240] I get email from people who listen to this network in Ireland, in Greece, and other places.
[06:18.240 --> 06:20.480] And thank you very much for that.
[06:20.480 --> 06:23.480] Yes, and thank you for your show.
[06:23.480 --> 06:25.640] I just want to do a recap.
[06:25.640 --> 06:28.520] We're going to have a post-election analysis tonight, folks.
[06:28.520 --> 06:33.520] We're going to leave the phones off for now because Randy and I have an analysis that
[06:33.520 --> 06:35.800] we want to discuss on the air.
[06:35.800 --> 06:44.400] And I'm also going to play an interview of Ron Paul from earlier before the election.
[06:44.400 --> 06:51.440] He had some really interesting ideas and interesting perspective on the election.
[06:51.440 --> 06:55.260] This was before the election, so I'm going to play that interview a little bit later
[06:55.260 --> 06:56.400] as well.
[06:56.400 --> 07:01.680] But before we get into all of that, I just wanted to recap, have a little recap on what
[07:01.680 --> 07:03.480] just happened on your show, Tom.
[07:03.480 --> 07:09.000] It was very interesting, folks, for listeners who did not hear what happened on Tom's show.
[07:09.000 --> 07:16.380] We have one of our correspondents, Joe Calhoun, in New York City right now, and he was live
[07:16.380 --> 07:25.120] boots on the ground at the Trump Tower where there still is a protest in progress protesting
[07:25.120 --> 07:29.400] against Donald Trump winning the presidency.
[07:29.400 --> 07:36.500] And Joe managed to get the leader of the protest on the line, and Tom conducted a fantastic
[07:36.500 --> 07:42.160] interview of this man, his name was Jabriel, and Joe's trying to get his contact information
[07:42.160 --> 07:49.440] right now, to tell us just what he was protesting and why and how this protest came about.
[07:49.440 --> 07:52.580] And I thought it was very interesting.
[07:52.580 --> 07:59.840] One of his main issues, the first thing that he mentioned regarding the protest was that
[07:59.840 --> 08:06.880] he wanted to have some kind of a platform for people who were not able to vote, to voice
[08:06.880 --> 08:13.560] their opinion, which I think that's all fine and dandy and everything, but it was just
[08:13.560 --> 08:16.240] a little bit confusing to me.
[08:16.240 --> 08:21.400] He didn't actually promote the idea that young people should vote, mainly he was talking
[08:21.400 --> 08:25.480] about the youth, like high schoolers, junior highers, this was how all of this started,
[08:25.480 --> 08:27.440] that was his main deal.
[08:27.440 --> 08:32.740] And I'm like, okay, I'm thinking, well, I really would have liked to have asked him
[08:32.740 --> 08:35.440] why did he do that?
[08:35.440 --> 08:39.000] Why did he think that was something that was necessary?
[08:39.000 --> 08:44.680] He didn't promote the idea that those young people should have the right to vote or the
[08:44.680 --> 08:50.400] ability to vote, but it just raises a question in my mind.
[08:50.400 --> 08:58.880] When families with mom and dad and the kids don't hold an election in the household to
[08:58.880 --> 09:05.880] decide what the best way is to run things, the parents call the shots.
[09:05.880 --> 09:06.880] Can I interject here?
[09:06.880 --> 09:08.360] It's a silly word.
[09:08.360 --> 09:09.360] Please do.
[09:09.360 --> 09:10.360] Go ahead, Tom.
[09:10.360 --> 09:11.360] All right.
[09:11.360 --> 09:13.000] Well, a few things.
[09:13.000 --> 09:17.040] First of all, I'm not sure what it's like in Austin, but here in New York, especially
[09:17.040 --> 09:25.840] in Brooklyn, where it's sort of PC central headquarters, parents have been sort of indoctrinating
[09:25.840 --> 09:31.720] their children into how evil Donald Trump is and I'm sure about a whole lot of other
[09:31.720 --> 09:32.720] things.
[09:32.720 --> 09:38.200] So young people around here in New York City are heavily impacted by this.
[09:38.200 --> 09:44.160] There's parents crying, there's children crying, there's parents keeping their children out
[09:44.160 --> 09:47.320] of school today because they can't handle it.
[09:47.320 --> 09:52.260] So it doesn't surprise me if a group of young people who are not old enough to vote feel
[09:52.260 --> 09:57.160] they want to express their, maybe they're trying to get the approval of their parents.
[09:57.160 --> 10:02.120] I'm not sure if they are old enough to have a well-formed political consciousness or not,
[10:02.120 --> 10:03.120] but whatever.
[10:03.120 --> 10:04.120] Okay.
[10:04.120 --> 10:05.120] So they want to do that.
[10:05.120 --> 10:07.160] First thing is, hey, it's your first amendment right.
[10:07.160 --> 10:10.980] I served in the military to guarantee that right for you.
[10:10.980 --> 10:12.760] So did so many, many other people.
[10:12.760 --> 10:15.280] Some people unfortunately died, okay.
[10:15.280 --> 10:19.280] If that's what you want to do, okay, that's fine.
[10:19.280 --> 10:20.640] It's an interesting angle.
[10:20.640 --> 10:26.000] You want to have young people give their opinion, can't vote yet, but he also said people who
[10:26.000 --> 10:27.000] can't vote.
[10:27.000 --> 10:28.000] Well, that's not just young people.
[10:28.000 --> 10:34.180] It may be people who haven't registered or it might be people who are not citizens, but
[10:34.180 --> 10:35.180] are here.
[10:35.180 --> 10:36.180] You know?
[10:36.180 --> 10:37.180] Yes.
[10:37.180 --> 10:43.680] But they picked up one person who was not a citizen, who could not vote to be part of
[10:43.680 --> 10:44.680] the protest.
[10:44.680 --> 10:49.840] And so that was definitely part of the ideology behind this.
[10:49.840 --> 10:54.640] And you know, Tom didn't have a chance to question him about this matter.
[10:54.640 --> 11:01.480] Tom, you did a great job discussing the whole situation with this gentleman because basically
[11:01.480 --> 11:08.680] you just asked him questions to get him to state his case and it was kind of broke down
[11:08.680 --> 11:09.680] pretty quickly.
[11:09.680 --> 11:11.120] Oh, it broke down very fast.
[11:11.120 --> 11:16.280] He broke down very fast because he really couldn't come up with any legitimate reasons
[11:16.280 --> 11:18.720] of why he was against Trump.
[11:18.720 --> 11:22.320] And he admitted that he wasn't for Hillary either.
[11:22.320 --> 11:25.760] And he wasn't that knowledgeable about Trump.
[11:25.760 --> 11:30.720] He wasn't knowledgeable about either one or any of the issues or anything.
[11:30.720 --> 11:32.560] And he even admitted that on the air.
[11:32.560 --> 11:38.880] And then within, I would say, six or seven minutes of just getting him to open up and
[11:38.880 --> 11:44.000] discuss his reasoning behind all this right before the break, he'd only been on for six
[11:44.000 --> 11:45.000] or seven minutes.
[11:45.000 --> 11:47.080] He says, well, you know, I'm open.
[11:47.080 --> 11:50.520] I'm open minded to having Trump as our president.
[11:50.520 --> 11:53.160] And I'm thinking, well, that didn't take long.
[11:53.160 --> 11:56.720] But if you're so open minded, then why are you having a protest against Trump?
[11:56.720 --> 11:58.040] I can tell you why, Deb.
[11:58.040 --> 12:08.320] I can tell you why, because there's not many people in the world who both support Trump,
[12:08.320 --> 12:15.200] but can avoid the bait of being angry and vituperative when speaking with people.
[12:15.200 --> 12:16.200] You heard me.
[12:16.200 --> 12:17.200] I was very calm.
[12:17.200 --> 12:18.200] I was very direct.
[12:18.200 --> 12:19.200] Right.
[12:19.200 --> 12:20.200] Because I'm into communication.
[12:20.200 --> 12:23.320] I want to communicate, especially with young people.
[12:23.320 --> 12:27.160] So once you go down that route, then you can sort of really find out.
[12:27.160 --> 12:34.320] But the other point, which really had precious little to do with him, however, it's a major,
[12:34.320 --> 12:35.320] major point.
[12:35.320 --> 12:42.160] You know, it started last night, Rachel Maddow, who I've dubbed Rachel Madcow, okay.
[12:42.160 --> 12:43.800] And I'm a true liberal from New York.
[12:43.800 --> 12:44.800] She's not, but I am.
[12:44.800 --> 12:47.680] You know, last night on the air, it was Armageddon.
[12:47.680 --> 12:48.680] It was the end of the world.
[12:48.680 --> 12:50.780] Donald Trump, how are we going to survive this thing?
[12:50.780 --> 12:56.200] And then she showed all these pictures of people protesting in New York City, in Atlanta,
[12:56.200 --> 12:59.200] in San Francisco, all over the place, Oregon.
[12:59.200 --> 13:00.200] They're in the streets.
[13:00.200 --> 13:04.240] You know, there were a fair amount of people and they were pro, and you know what, okay.
[13:04.240 --> 13:05.360] And that's their right.
[13:05.360 --> 13:06.880] That's fine.
[13:06.880 --> 13:11.560] But you know what, Deb, immediately it came to mind.
[13:11.560 --> 13:19.400] If the shoe was on the other foot, if it was Donald Trump who had lost, and Donald Trump's
[13:19.400 --> 13:25.560] supporters were out in the streets, and there was a burning cardboard box somewhere, you
[13:25.560 --> 13:30.600] know, like that, but they were blocking traffic, the cops had to come in.
[13:30.600 --> 13:37.160] If the shoe was on the other foot, the mainstream media would have been screaming bloody murder,
[13:37.160 --> 13:41.080] Nazis, fascists, sore losers.
[13:41.080 --> 13:46.160] They didn't accept the democratic process, peaceful change of power in the United States,
[13:46.160 --> 13:47.160] all the nine yards.
[13:47.160 --> 13:49.560] And I'm absolutely clear on that.
[13:49.560 --> 13:51.360] Oh yeah, absolutely.
[13:51.360 --> 13:53.360] There's no question about it.
[13:53.360 --> 13:56.880] I wish that we could have talked to somebody or heard from somebody at the protest that
[13:56.880 --> 14:02.360] was actually for Hillary, because I really would like to know, honestly, what is going
[14:02.360 --> 14:03.840] through these people's minds.
[14:03.840 --> 14:11.160] And as Scottish John was mentioning, all of the videos and the pictures of all of these
[14:11.160 --> 14:20.040] people just crying, literally streams of tears down their face, and one woman did like a
[14:20.040 --> 14:24.720] selfie video talking about how she wanted to commit suicide and all this stuff.
[14:24.720 --> 14:27.800] I'm like, what is so wrong here?
[14:27.800 --> 14:33.800] I mean, we have lost, on our side, we've lost the last three elections, okay?
[14:33.800 --> 14:38.740] We couldn't get Michael Badnerick in in 2004, of course, he's running a libertarian ticket,
[14:38.740 --> 14:44.520] so that has little chance of being any kind of success at all.
[14:44.520 --> 14:50.920] We did everything we could with Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, the whole delegate process,
[14:50.920 --> 14:51.920] all of that stuff.
[14:51.920 --> 14:56.560] In fact, I was saying on another show that all of that legwork and groundwork that we
[14:56.560 --> 15:01.720] laid over those last two elections paved the way to getting Trump in.
[15:01.720 --> 15:06.680] I mean, Ron Paul didn't even get the nomination, okay?
[15:06.680 --> 15:08.800] Deborah, I voted for 20 years.
[15:08.800 --> 15:14.480] You didn't see us face down kicking the floor and beating fists on the floor and crying
[15:14.480 --> 15:16.440] and carrying on like crazy.
[15:16.440 --> 15:21.080] It's like, I mean, I just don't understand what is going through these people's minds.
[15:21.080 --> 15:23.040] I really would like to know.
[15:23.040 --> 15:30.040] Deb, I voted for 20 years before finally somebody I voted for won the White House, okay?
[15:30.040 --> 15:31.720] And you know, get over it.
[15:31.720 --> 15:32.880] That's our system.
[15:32.880 --> 15:33.880] That's the way it goes.
[15:33.880 --> 15:39.400] But this is the toxicity of political correctness, where if you can't win the argument, you've
[15:39.400 --> 15:43.200] got to demonize the other person to the point where they're Hitler incarnate.
[15:43.200 --> 15:50.640] And you've got a Hitler misogynist nut job all rolled into one who's going to take your
[15:50.640 --> 15:52.840] right away to cut babies out of your womb.
[15:52.840 --> 15:57.200] Well, see, that was one thing that I had some respect for Jabriel about, okay?
[15:57.200 --> 16:06.360] Because he was open-minded and he didn't have any legitimate reason of why he was opposing
[16:06.360 --> 16:07.360] Donald Trump.
[16:07.360 --> 16:09.480] It was obvious that he'd been brainwashed by the media.
[16:09.480 --> 16:18.720] And you asked him to list off the top three reasons why he's against Trump, and neither
[16:18.720 --> 16:21.240] one of them had anything to do with the question.
[16:21.240 --> 16:25.680] One of them had to do with the fact that young people can't vote or illegal aliens can't
[16:25.680 --> 16:26.680] vote.
[16:26.680 --> 16:27.680] That has nothing to do with Trump.
[16:27.680 --> 16:33.480] And the other one had to do with he was upset about the idea that somebody with no political
[16:33.480 --> 16:35.320] experience could win the election.
[16:35.320 --> 16:38.520] Well, that doesn't have anything to do with Trump either.
[16:38.520 --> 16:40.600] And then he never could come up with a third reason.
[16:40.600 --> 16:42.960] And then after that, he's like, well, I guess I'm open-minded.
[16:42.960 --> 16:50.520] I mean, actually, this is very encouraging to me that when people get upset like this
[16:50.520 --> 16:55.200] and they're broken down, they're open to having a change of mind.
[16:55.200 --> 16:56.200] Listen, we'll-
[16:56.200 --> 17:00.200] It doesn't take much logic, and that's why logic is the thing that's the best.
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[19:09.080 --> 19:32.080] Look what we got, oh we asked the question, I wonder what that is, don't have the answer,
[19:32.080 --> 19:42.080] oh when I bite, oh we asked the question, look what we got, oh they don't have the answer,
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[19:49.080 --> 19:52.480] Don't want to talk way too politically and them getting mad.
[19:52.480 --> 19:53.960] Okay, folks, we are back.
[19:53.960 --> 19:55.880] This is the Rule of Law.
[19:55.880 --> 20:02.720] I am Deborah Stevens here with Randy Kelton and we are also, we have invited Tom Kiley
[20:02.720 --> 20:04.520] to stay on the line.
[20:04.520 --> 20:09.680] He does the show Iron and World Report radio from 6 to 8 p.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays
[20:09.680 --> 20:15.640] and we're so glad he stayed with us for our post-election analysis, which we barely scratched
[20:15.640 --> 20:23.720] the surface and it was a very interesting interview with Jabril, a leader of a protest
[20:23.720 --> 20:28.820] at Trump Tower primarily involving high schoolers and junior hires.
[20:28.820 --> 20:35.600] He wanted to give a forum or some kind of opportunity for people who can't vote, who
[20:35.600 --> 20:41.440] are not allowed to vote to voice their opinion, which I think is very interesting.
[20:41.440 --> 20:46.840] He didn't actually advocate that youth should be able to vote or that illegals should be
[20:46.840 --> 20:51.000] able to vote, which I was kind of glad of, but I would have liked to have found out what
[20:51.000 --> 20:52.960] he actually does think about that.
[20:52.960 --> 20:58.000] But what was the most interesting thing to me about this whole interview is that he really
[20:58.000 --> 21:02.800] didn't have any legitimate reasons for protesting Trump at all.
[21:02.800 --> 21:08.080] His two reasons, he couldn't even give three reasons, and the two reasons that he did give
[21:08.080 --> 21:11.080] had nothing to do with Trump himself whatsoever.
[21:11.080 --> 21:13.480] There were system problems.
[21:13.480 --> 21:15.160] They were system problems, yeah.
[21:15.160 --> 21:20.600] That young people can't vote and that, or you know, I guess that's what he was trying
[21:20.600 --> 21:26.040] to say, and that also somebody who doesn't have any political experience could win an
[21:26.040 --> 21:27.040] election.
[21:27.040 --> 21:28.040] None of that has anything to do with Trump.
[21:28.040 --> 21:29.440] He couldn't come up with a third reason.
[21:29.440 --> 21:37.360] And then towards the end of that discussion, he was open to seeing what Trump could do
[21:37.360 --> 21:38.760] and if he would be a good leader.
[21:38.760 --> 21:43.000] And that in and of itself, I told Tom, wow, that didn't take long to turn him around.
[21:43.000 --> 21:46.560] I told him that on the break.
[21:46.560 --> 21:47.560] It's very basic, Deb.
[21:47.560 --> 21:48.560] I explained to him.
[21:48.560 --> 21:52.560] I'm sorry, but as I understand it, in the constitution, the qualifications to be the
[21:52.560 --> 21:59.200] president are you have to be a natural American citizen born here and you got to be 35 years
[21:59.200 --> 22:00.200] old or older.
[22:00.200 --> 22:02.000] And I think that's it, right?
[22:02.000 --> 22:06.200] Well, he was willing to listen to what you had to say.
[22:06.200 --> 22:09.760] It doesn't say anything about you can't be rich and do it, right?
[22:09.760 --> 22:13.560] Well, and he was willing to listen to what you had to say and he was willing to be open
[22:13.560 --> 22:23.800] minded and even change his opinion on a dime without feeling insulted or demeaned or anything.
[22:23.800 --> 22:28.520] He didn't exactly admit he was wrong, but it was just very interesting that it only
[22:28.520 --> 22:34.360] took five minutes to get him to say that he was open minded and didn't really object to
[22:34.360 --> 22:35.360] Trump being president.
[22:35.360 --> 22:40.120] I'm like, wow, this guy is an organizer of a protest at Trump Tower and it only took
[22:40.120 --> 22:44.800] five minutes to get him to say that he was open minded and didn't really object that
[22:44.800 --> 22:45.800] much.
[22:45.800 --> 22:51.920] I mean, the thing is when people are highly upset, traumatized a lot of times, they don't
[22:51.920 --> 22:53.820] get what they want.
[22:53.820 --> 23:01.060] They don't have their expectations met and it causes some kind of a crash in their psychology
[23:01.060 --> 23:02.060] and-
[23:02.060 --> 23:03.060] Reality shift.
[23:03.060 --> 23:05.360] A paradigm shift, a reality shift.
[23:05.360 --> 23:10.880] And Randy can speak to this because he talks about the psychological aspects of all these
[23:10.880 --> 23:11.880] things.
[23:11.880 --> 23:16.840] But when people have some kind of a crash when it comes to their expectations and their
[23:16.840 --> 23:25.720] expectations aren't met, then all of a sudden they become more open to considering new ideas
[23:25.720 --> 23:29.480] and new ways of thinking and actually-
[23:29.480 --> 23:30.480] That's a high road, Deb.
[23:30.480 --> 23:32.600] I mean, the first question in that situation I ask is-
[23:32.600 --> 23:33.600] That's what happened here.
[23:33.600 --> 23:37.720] How realistic were your expectations in the first place?
[23:37.720 --> 23:43.800] Were you sold a bill of goods or did you have legitimate expectations?
[23:43.800 --> 23:47.640] Were your expectations such that they could actually happen?
[23:47.640 --> 23:50.440] That's the first question and you're right.
[23:50.440 --> 23:53.920] This intelligent person is going to react in the way that you say.
[23:53.920 --> 24:00.080] The unintelligent person gets angry at the world and the world is wrong because the world
[24:00.080 --> 24:01.880] has not met my expectations.
[24:01.880 --> 24:02.880] I'm the right one.
[24:02.880 --> 24:03.880] Hold on, Dom.
[24:03.880 --> 24:05.520] That's the entitlement mentality.
[24:05.520 --> 24:06.520] Go ahead, Randy.
[24:06.520 --> 24:07.520] Hold on there.
[24:07.520 --> 24:12.800] I want what I want and that's what I want and you owe it to me.
[24:12.800 --> 24:14.880] That's the entitlement mentality.
[24:14.880 --> 24:20.680] Because what I want is truly right and just and who could argue with that?
[24:20.680 --> 24:23.960] If it wasn't truly right and just, I wouldn't want it.
[24:23.960 --> 24:24.960] And listen, listen.
[24:24.960 --> 24:25.960] I want to comment on-
[24:25.960 --> 24:29.000] And therefore if you're against it, you're a Nazi fascist.
[24:29.000 --> 24:36.760] And listen, that is the attitude that this is, if we want to break it down psychologically,
[24:36.760 --> 24:45.840] this has to do with objective reality, objective truth, objective right and wrong versus subjective
[24:45.840 --> 24:48.680] reality.
[24:48.680 --> 24:51.080] Subjective reality is not reality.
[24:51.080 --> 24:53.880] True reality is objective.
[24:53.880 --> 24:56.720] It's true whether you believe it is or not.
[24:56.720 --> 25:01.480] Everything is right or wrong, whether it's right or wrong for you.
[25:01.480 --> 25:06.360] But most people right now have been indoctrinated into a line of entitlement thinking where
[25:06.360 --> 25:10.440] what is right is not objective.
[25:10.440 --> 25:14.040] What's right is what's right for me.
[25:14.040 --> 25:17.920] That is why there is such sickness in this society.
[25:17.920 --> 25:23.480] And Tom, what you were saying is that the intelligent person, pause and reflect and
[25:23.480 --> 25:27.560] reviews this, but that's exactly what Jabril did.
[25:27.560 --> 25:29.040] He didn't get angry and defensive.
[25:29.040 --> 25:30.520] I was quite impressed really.
[25:30.520 --> 25:34.960] Well, I approached him in a way that I tried to discourage anybody from being angry.
[25:34.960 --> 25:37.060] I approached him first of all with respect.
[25:37.060 --> 25:42.840] But if I may add and extend on your remarks, Deb, you've touched in an area that I happen
[25:42.840 --> 25:47.720] to be quite familiar with that I've studied for a great long time with people who knew
[25:47.720 --> 25:50.780] a lot more about it than I did.
[25:50.780 --> 25:57.160] When you're talking about reality, it's very important to distinguish there's two types
[25:57.160 --> 25:59.240] of reality.
[25:59.240 --> 26:04.440] There's absolute truth and there's relative truth.
[26:04.440 --> 26:08.680] And you can't have one without the other.
[26:08.680 --> 26:15.160] And we live in a realm of basically relative truth.
[26:15.160 --> 26:19.880] Absolute truth is something that's a lot different, but it's got nothing to do with things.
[26:19.880 --> 26:26.480] All things, thoughts, actions, trees, concrete, whatever, they're all relative because they
[26:26.480 --> 26:29.160] come and they go.
[26:29.160 --> 26:31.240] You can't pin them down.
[26:31.240 --> 26:39.040] And a perfect example, relatively speaking, if you don't want to suffer, then you shouldn't
[26:39.040 --> 26:41.280] cause suffering in other people.
[26:41.280 --> 26:46.640] But if you want to suffer by all means, hurt people, it'll come back and bite you in the
[26:46.640 --> 26:48.360] butt like that.
[26:48.360 --> 26:55.600] But relative truth is that in relation to what I want, then yes, that's a good thing
[26:55.600 --> 26:56.600] to do.
[26:56.600 --> 26:58.760] It's true.
[26:58.760 --> 27:06.560] And talking about the relativity here, this goes to perspective versus to reality.
[27:06.560 --> 27:10.120] And I'm just going to toss out this as an example, and this has to do with the material
[27:10.120 --> 27:16.760] universe, but we have this star nearby that we call the sun.
[27:16.760 --> 27:21.840] And the sun, it's hot, it's shining, it emits radiation.
[27:21.840 --> 27:26.040] Whether you want to admit it or not, it's bright.
[27:26.040 --> 27:27.440] That's why we have life on the planet.
[27:27.440 --> 27:30.120] That's how we can see things in the daytime.
[27:30.120 --> 27:32.520] Well, now consider a blind person.
[27:32.520 --> 27:35.920] He may be able to feel the heat, but he can't see the light.
[27:35.920 --> 27:43.440] And so for him, his reality, his perspective is, well, there's no light here, but that's
[27:43.440 --> 27:44.440] relative.
[27:44.440 --> 27:46.180] That's not reality.
[27:46.180 --> 27:54.280] And so for a lot of people, they refuse to accept that there is something called objective
[27:54.280 --> 28:02.040] reality that is not necessarily in line with what their perspective is.
[28:02.040 --> 28:07.280] And so therefore they are completely closed to any new ideas or anything that would challenge
[28:07.280 --> 28:12.220] their paradigm, and this is a sign of immaturity.
[28:12.220 --> 28:17.280] And I thought with Jabriel, he's not in that realm.
[28:17.280 --> 28:18.280] He's open-minded.
[28:18.280 --> 28:20.720] Well, he's young, but he was open-minded, so that was good.
[28:20.720 --> 28:21.960] So what were you going to say, Randy?
[28:21.960 --> 28:22.960] You were going to say something?
[28:22.960 --> 28:23.960] Yeah, Randy.
[28:23.960 --> 28:27.560] I spent a lot of time looking for the truth.
[28:27.560 --> 28:31.680] And I was sure that if something was true, it would always come up true.
[28:31.680 --> 28:35.880] So I spent a lot of time looking for those things that come up true all the time, and
[28:35.880 --> 28:41.700] I only found one thing that's absolutely true all the time.
[28:41.700 --> 28:46.520] And that is, nothing's true.
[28:46.520 --> 28:47.520] Oh God!
[28:47.520 --> 28:52.920] So you have to watch, you have to be careful, you have to guard the door to your mind.
[28:52.920 --> 28:59.600] Well, I would disagree with that because as a Christian, I believe that Jesus, that God,
[28:59.600 --> 29:00.920] is the truth itself.
[29:00.920 --> 29:02.960] But I want to get back just before we go to break to-
[29:02.960 --> 29:05.800] Well, if I can chime in, oh, I'm sorry, we're near break.
[29:05.800 --> 29:06.800] Go ahead.
[29:06.800 --> 29:11.120] Yeah, just one second, regarding inconsistencies in the way that people think, okay, as far
[29:11.120 --> 29:13.480] as what's right is what's right for me.
[29:13.480 --> 29:19.920] These people that have the entitlement mentality, what's right for them is like, say, the taxation
[29:19.920 --> 29:24.640] scheme where they get a free handout and it comes out of the pocket of people that pay
[29:24.640 --> 29:25.640] taxes.
[29:25.640 --> 29:31.000] But if you reverse the situation for them, and well, what if we taxed you to give me
[29:31.000 --> 29:32.000] something?
[29:32.000 --> 29:34.440] Well, now all of a sudden, that's not right, okay?
[29:34.440 --> 29:37.200] So that's inconsistent, okay?
[29:37.200 --> 29:41.680] If it's right to take from me to give to you, why don't you think it's right to take from
[29:41.680 --> 29:42.680] you to give to me?
[29:42.680 --> 29:48.020] And so you bust people on their inconsistencies, that's another way of getting people to be
[29:48.020 --> 29:49.020] open to change.
[29:49.020 --> 29:51.480] All right, we are going to break now.
[29:51.480 --> 29:54.480] We are going to continue this analysis on the other side.
[29:54.480 --> 30:02.280] We're with Tom Kiley, Randy Kelton, I'm Debra Stevens, we'll be right back.
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[33:35.400 --> 33:36.400] We are back.
[33:36.400 --> 33:39.360] This is the rule of law with Randy Kelton.
[33:39.360 --> 33:40.360] I'm Debra Stevens.
[33:40.360 --> 33:42.600] We've got our guest, Tom Kiley, who's another host on the network.
[33:42.600 --> 33:46.980] He does a show right before us on Thursday nights, and we haven't even quite touched
[33:46.980 --> 33:48.960] on our election analysis yet.
[33:48.960 --> 33:56.840] We're kind of engaging in an analysis of the psychology of some of these people who have
[33:56.840 --> 33:58.960] been brainwashed by the media.
[33:58.960 --> 34:02.920] And Randy, you had a comment you wanted to make, and then I want to go back to Tom.
[34:02.920 --> 34:05.800] A quick comment about something that's in the ebook.
[34:05.800 --> 34:12.160] And I start the ebook out with some fallacies we have about the nature of the criminal justice
[34:12.160 --> 34:13.160] system.
[34:13.160 --> 34:17.440] And one of them is that we expect the courts to be fair.
[34:17.440 --> 34:20.840] You should never, ever expect the courts to be fair.
[34:20.840 --> 34:23.040] They're not designed to be fair.
[34:23.040 --> 34:25.720] Expect them to be consistent.
[34:25.720 --> 34:34.880] So when we develop a way of thinking about things, the most important aspect of it is
[34:34.880 --> 34:35.880] consistency.
[34:35.880 --> 34:41.000] But look at these people here who are whining and crying because they didn't get what they
[34:41.000 --> 34:42.460] wanted.
[34:42.460 --> 34:47.740] You need to back up and look for what do you really want?
[34:47.740 --> 34:54.640] The problem with justice in the courts is justice is relative to the individual and
[34:54.640 --> 34:56.400] to the circumstance.
[34:56.400 --> 35:02.600] Do you really want a judge to decide what he thinks is just?
[35:02.600 --> 35:07.880] Or do you want a judge to rule on the facts and the law, and if the facts and the law
[35:07.880 --> 35:11.960] don't lead to justice, change the law?
[35:11.960 --> 35:16.240] Don't ask the system to change to fit what you think is right.
[35:16.240 --> 35:18.080] I totally agree with that, Randy.
[35:18.080 --> 35:19.080] Tom?
[35:19.080 --> 35:24.240] Yeah, if I may chime in on that, I would say also, I've given this a lot of thought as
[35:24.240 --> 35:30.680] someone who's been in court a few times myself, the lay person is under, usually under the
[35:30.680 --> 35:37.480] fallacy that, you know, the false understanding that the courts are about divining the truth.
[35:37.480 --> 35:40.240] The courts are about getting to the truth.
[35:40.240 --> 35:41.840] That's not true.
[35:41.840 --> 35:44.600] The courts are like the umpire at the ballgame.
[35:44.600 --> 35:50.520] They are about making a decision, hopefully based on the truth.
[35:50.520 --> 35:51.940] Maybe not.
[35:51.940 --> 35:57.720] If you've got the opportunity to present the truth and you do a bad job, and the decision
[35:57.720 --> 36:02.120] therefore goes against the truth, okay, the court doesn't really care.
[36:02.120 --> 36:03.120] You're done.
[36:03.120 --> 36:06.440] Hey, you don't like it, go appeal it, fine, I did my job, I made the decision.
[36:06.440 --> 36:09.800] You got 30, 40, 50,000 people watching the umpire.
[36:09.800 --> 36:14.880] The pitch comes in, okay, hopefully it's going to be a strike if he calls it a strike.
[36:14.880 --> 36:15.880] But you know what?
[36:15.880 --> 36:16.880] That's not the point.
[36:16.880 --> 36:17.880] The game must go on.
[36:17.880 --> 36:20.180] He has to make a decision right then and there.
[36:20.180 --> 36:21.400] That's what the courts are.
[36:21.400 --> 36:22.680] Is that a fair analysis?
[36:22.680 --> 36:27.760] Yes, the court must determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, apply
[36:27.760 --> 36:30.520] the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case.
[36:30.520 --> 36:35.040] If he has another agenda, he needs to get down off that bench.
[36:35.040 --> 36:40.000] And if you don't present enough facts to make the truth come out, so be it, you're going
[36:40.000 --> 36:42.880] to get a decision that's not based on the truth.
[36:42.880 --> 36:43.880] Yeah.
[36:43.880 --> 36:46.360] Figure out how things work and do it that way.
[36:46.360 --> 36:54.800] These folks out there doing these objections to the legally and properly elected president
[36:54.800 --> 37:01.520] need to think very carefully about what they're asking for, because you might actually get
[37:01.520 --> 37:03.640] it and you won't like it.
[37:03.640 --> 37:04.640] Amen, brother.
[37:04.640 --> 37:07.080] Well, one comment on that.
[37:07.080 --> 37:12.480] I don't know if any election is legal and legitimate, but I'm going to get to that later
[37:12.480 --> 37:14.040] as far as Trump.
[37:14.040 --> 37:23.560] Well, just briefly, from what I have been able to determine studying reported outcomes
[37:23.560 --> 37:29.440] in various counties across the state, and Randy's going to touch on this later, it looks
[37:29.440 --> 37:36.240] to me at least, and other people have looked at this, like Trump probably really came away
[37:36.240 --> 37:42.440] in all reality with 75 to 85% of the popular vote, and that's why he won.
[37:42.440 --> 37:45.520] And they thieved as hard as they could.
[37:45.520 --> 37:47.600] They flipped as many votes as they could.
[37:47.600 --> 37:54.500] They had as many dead people signed up to vote as they could.
[37:54.500 --> 37:57.760] People voting multiple times, they did as much as they could.
[37:57.760 --> 38:02.080] Rural tabulation room flipping as much as they could, and they still were not able to
[38:02.080 --> 38:08.000] overcome it because it was that much of a landslide.
[38:08.000 --> 38:11.560] It was the rural communities that won this one.
[38:11.560 --> 38:16.800] They can slip into major cities where they've got lots of votes and not so many.
[38:16.800 --> 38:17.800] It's easier.
[38:17.800 --> 38:22.160] They don't have to have as many people there to get the job done, but when you got to hit
[38:22.160 --> 38:27.520] every county in the country, you just don't have enough people and people are going to
[38:27.520 --> 38:29.360] get caught.
[38:29.360 --> 38:30.520] This was the heartland.
[38:30.520 --> 38:36.920] If you look at that map from the election, the blue areas that came in first were all
[38:36.920 --> 38:39.880] major metropolitan areas.
[38:39.880 --> 38:45.680] Even in Texas, the metropolitan areas came in mostly for Clinton.
[38:45.680 --> 38:47.160] It was the rural areas.
[38:47.160 --> 38:52.760] You look at the map, every where it's red is all out in the heartland, yep, yep.
[38:52.760 --> 38:57.760] I think you're right, Randy, it was a swamping of the system.
[38:57.760 --> 38:58.760] You're right.
[38:58.760 --> 39:03.600] What typically happens, and I disagree, a lot of times the major metropolitan areas
[39:03.600 --> 39:05.400] come in later.
[39:05.400 --> 39:09.720] The reason for that is they got to see how many votes they need to steal first.
[39:09.720 --> 39:14.440] They wait until they get the votes in from the heartland or the counties that are in
[39:14.440 --> 39:19.400] the rural areas so they know how many votes to flip in the cities.
[39:19.400 --> 39:24.580] If they're swamped, if their boat is swamped by the rural areas, there just isn't enough
[39:24.580 --> 39:26.720] people.
[39:26.720 --> 39:31.960] No one's going to believe that Clinton got 90% of the vote in Philadelphia.
[39:31.960 --> 39:38.840] It has to be 60, 40, 30, 70 something.
[39:38.840 --> 39:39.840] I think you're right.
[39:39.840 --> 39:43.040] I think it was too big to steal.
[39:43.040 --> 39:48.860] What they did is they woke up the sleeping giant.
[39:48.860 --> 39:55.080] We are PO'd, we're tired of this crap, we're mad as hell, we're not taking it anymore.
[39:55.080 --> 40:00.600] The politicians really need to pay attention to this one.
[40:00.600 --> 40:04.800] Let me just give a brief rundown here of what happened in Texas.
[40:04.800 --> 40:09.260] I'm not going to go county by county, but I'm going to hit some of the major counties.
[40:09.260 --> 40:13.680] This is off of thepolitico.com, which has a breakdown of county by county with charts
[40:13.680 --> 40:16.120] and maps and everything.
[40:16.120 --> 40:23.360] I went down and looked at all these counties and the charts, and pretty much every county
[40:23.360 --> 40:34.520] that had say under 50,000 votes total, Trump won by almost 85%.
[40:34.520 --> 40:42.280] I would say average 75 to 85%, actually it was more than around 80% seemed to be the
[40:42.280 --> 40:51.720] average of how far ahead he was in counties where the vote count itself was 50,000 or
[40:51.720 --> 40:59.360] under or between 50 and 100,000, maybe it wasn't quite that strong of a lead.
[40:59.360 --> 41:06.960] I just thought it was amazing that that many, if you want to call that rural counties, there
[41:06.960 --> 41:14.600] was enough votes to overcome what happened or what they say happened in counties like
[41:14.600 --> 41:17.400] Bear County, which is San Antonio.
[41:17.400 --> 41:23.640] Hey, Hillary, she didn't take it by storm that much, and that would have been one of
[41:23.640 --> 41:27.640] the biggest counties to be a landslide in her favor.
[41:27.640 --> 41:35.440] They're reporting 319,000 in favor of Hillary in Bear County versus 240.
[41:35.440 --> 41:37.840] That's 54 to 41%.
[41:37.840 --> 41:45.760] The other county was Harris County, which is Houston, which you got 706,000 for Hillary
[41:45.760 --> 41:47.840] to 544.
[41:47.840 --> 41:50.360] That's 54 to 41%.
[41:50.360 --> 41:58.200] The other big county that she took was Dallas County, 458,000 to 261.
[41:58.200 --> 42:03.140] That was probably the biggest spread that she had at the biggest numbers.
[42:03.140 --> 42:08.920] That was like 61 to 34%, but everything else that she took, all the other counties that
[42:08.920 --> 42:10.400] she took, guess what?
[42:10.400 --> 42:15.000] They were all in the Southwest along the border.
[42:15.000 --> 42:19.080] No big surprise, or El Paso, or out by Big Bend.
[42:19.080 --> 42:27.080] These are all areas where it would be to their advantage to put her in because she's going
[42:27.080 --> 42:35.360] to look the other way about the illegal immigration and give a handout to the illegal immigrants.
[42:35.360 --> 42:37.640] That was one question I wanted to ask Jabril.
[42:37.640 --> 42:44.840] It's like, are you really opposed to the idea that illegal, undocumented people cannot vote
[42:44.840 --> 42:46.440] in this country?
[42:46.440 --> 42:50.520] Because what happens is that they have no responsibility.
[42:50.520 --> 42:51.520] They're undocumented.
[42:51.520 --> 42:54.200] They don't have to pay taxes.
[42:54.200 --> 42:56.440] Most of them don't have driver's licenses.
[42:56.440 --> 43:04.960] They get in accidents and they get off without any kind of responsibility whatsoever.
[43:04.960 --> 43:05.960] It's like what?
[43:05.960 --> 43:11.760] People like this that have no responsibility are here, and yet they can vote with power
[43:11.760 --> 43:17.880] to take money out of my pocket to give to them for social services that government should
[43:17.880 --> 43:21.360] not be supplying even to legal citizens in the first place.
[43:21.360 --> 43:22.880] Do you really think that's fair?
[43:22.880 --> 43:23.880] Okay, no.
[43:23.880 --> 43:27.400] People think that these undocumented illegals should be able to vote.
[43:27.400 --> 43:32.360] No, because why should they take money out of my pocket when they have no liability or
[43:32.360 --> 43:34.680] responsibility whatsoever?
[43:34.680 --> 43:38.880] Those were the counties that she took other than Harris County and Dallas County, but
[43:38.880 --> 43:42.400] if you look at the map, Randy is right.
[43:42.400 --> 43:51.000] It was rural America that overwhelmed and overpowered the brainwashed masses in these
[43:51.000 --> 43:52.800] more densely populated areas.
[43:52.800 --> 43:56.080] If the city vote was legit, they may have cooked that too.
[43:56.080 --> 43:57.080] That too.
[43:57.080 --> 43:58.080] All right.
[43:58.080 --> 43:59.080] We'll be right back.
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[46:27.960 --> 46:30.920] This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[46:30.920 --> 46:32.200] We're here with Tom Kiley.
[46:32.200 --> 46:35.880] We're doing a post-election analysis here.
[46:35.880 --> 46:45.520] And yeah, the main point that we have discovered is that it looks like that rural America has
[46:45.520 --> 46:47.800] taken back the country.
[46:47.800 --> 46:55.960] They were able to overpower the election fraud in the major metropolitan areas and overpower
[46:55.960 --> 46:59.420] the brainwashing as well.
[46:59.420 --> 47:05.000] They brought out the black vote, they brought out the Hispanic vote, and unfortunately for
[47:05.000 --> 47:07.280] them, they brought out the white vote.
[47:07.280 --> 47:09.280] Oh, the white lash.
[47:09.280 --> 47:10.280] Yeah.
[47:10.280 --> 47:12.160] Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[47:12.160 --> 47:15.280] First of all, no, they didn't bring out the black vote.
[47:15.280 --> 47:21.040] There was a substantially smaller amount of blacks, African Americans, who voted this
[47:21.040 --> 47:23.640] time around than four years ago, okay?
[47:23.640 --> 47:26.900] So they couldn't, and that's a very interesting question.
[47:26.900 --> 47:32.800] Why weren't African Americans excited about Hillary Clinton to the same level as they
[47:32.800 --> 47:36.540] were excited about Barack Obama four years ago?
[47:36.540 --> 47:41.240] Could it be that they don't like Hillary Clinton or her treatment of Barack Obama when she
[47:41.240 --> 47:47.720] was the one who started the birther question when she was running against him in 2008?
[47:47.720 --> 47:55.200] And then secondly, Latinos also voted for Trump, okay?
[47:55.200 --> 47:58.360] There was a substantial number of Latinos who voted for Trump.
[47:58.360 --> 48:04.880] And then women, okay, white women, I think more than 50% of white women voted for Trump.
[48:04.880 --> 48:07.280] Wait a minute, I thought he was a misogynist.
[48:07.280 --> 48:08.960] How can you vote for a rapist?
[48:08.960 --> 48:13.360] He grabbed somebody by the you know what, oh my goodness, no, he didn't grab anybody.
[48:13.360 --> 48:15.800] He said something about it.
[48:15.800 --> 48:18.440] That was locker room talk, right?
[48:18.440 --> 48:23.400] I don't know about y'all, but if somebody followed me all around for my entire life
[48:23.400 --> 48:28.640] with a microphone, there's plenty of things that I have said to a select group of people
[48:28.640 --> 48:35.100] in private that don't represent me overall and something that I would never say to other
[48:35.100 --> 48:36.360] groups of people.
[48:36.360 --> 48:39.880] And am I not allowed now to say certain things to certain people?
[48:39.880 --> 48:44.360] I wonder what you would get if you followed a bunch of women around.
[48:44.360 --> 48:52.560] Well, you know, if that's the worst that they can come up with, which it was, and it's totally
[48:52.560 --> 49:00.600] of no consequence, I mean, how does that compare with being responsible for the killing of
[49:00.600 --> 49:04.760] millions of people over in Libya and these other countries?
[49:04.760 --> 49:08.480] I mean, we're talking bloodshed to the tune of millions of people.
[49:08.480 --> 49:10.200] I mean, how does that give me a break?
[49:10.200 --> 49:16.040] Donald Trump spoke about grabbing women by their privates.
[49:16.040 --> 49:17.920] No evidence that he did it.
[49:17.920 --> 49:22.480] Hillary Clinton has grabbed entire countries by their privates.
[49:22.480 --> 49:23.480] Yeah, right.
[49:23.480 --> 49:29.200] And when Donald Trump was accused of it, he said, yes, I did that.
[49:29.200 --> 49:30.200] And I am sorry.
[49:30.200 --> 49:31.200] Yes, I said that.
[49:31.200 --> 49:32.200] Yes, I said that.
[49:32.200 --> 49:34.640] He didn't do it.
[49:34.640 --> 49:35.640] He said it.
[49:35.640 --> 49:36.640] He didn't do it.
[49:36.640 --> 49:37.640] He said that.
[49:37.640 --> 49:38.640] It was locker room talk.
[49:38.640 --> 49:45.320] He admitted it, said it was locker room talk, but he didn't go on a binge of denying.
[49:45.320 --> 49:50.000] He looked everybody in the eye and he took his slump for it.
[49:50.000 --> 49:52.760] And I suspect he gained a lot for that.
[49:52.760 --> 49:53.760] Yeah.
[49:53.760 --> 49:56.880] And also, they really didn't have anything on him anyway.
[49:56.880 --> 50:06.160] In fact, Julian Assange was questioned concerning why he hadn't released some big email data
[50:06.160 --> 50:12.360] dump of Donald Trump's stuff and he said, well, we have all of Donald Trump's emails.
[50:12.360 --> 50:14.000] He says, it's boring.
[50:14.000 --> 50:19.400] He said, the thing with Donald Trump is what you see is what you get.
[50:19.400 --> 50:22.680] He hasn't said anything on stage that he didn't say in the emails.
[50:22.680 --> 50:24.960] He's like, there's just nothing to release.
[50:24.960 --> 50:37.480] I mean, and I'm really encouraged that people just were not swayed by these petty accusations.
[50:37.480 --> 50:38.480] Who cares?
[50:38.480 --> 50:40.040] Who cares about that kind of thing?
[50:40.040 --> 50:44.960] When Donald Trump sent these emails, he was not on the public payroll.
[50:44.960 --> 50:46.680] I don't even think he sent emails.
[50:46.680 --> 50:49.720] I heard today that Donald Trump is a Luddite.
[50:49.720 --> 50:53.000] He communicates with sticky notes and stuff.
[50:53.000 --> 50:56.640] He doesn't use email, thank God, I suppose.
[50:56.640 --> 51:04.160] But even still, even still, he's dealing with construction workers.
[51:04.160 --> 51:07.320] I've dealt with a full gamut of people.
[51:07.320 --> 51:13.400] Do you guys know, I've got several different persona and voices that I use to speak with
[51:13.400 --> 51:19.040] people for the sake of the facilitation of communication.
[51:19.040 --> 51:20.840] I worked in Queens for a while.
[51:20.840 --> 51:23.440] I developed a Queens accent.
[51:23.440 --> 51:24.440] You know why?
[51:24.440 --> 51:27.040] Because I don't want people to ask me, what did you say?
[51:27.040 --> 51:29.280] I had a whole Queens accent.
[51:29.280 --> 51:30.600] People thought I was from Queens.
[51:30.600 --> 51:31.600] I just picked it up.
[51:31.600 --> 51:33.320] My mind is flexible that way.
[51:33.320 --> 51:40.640] I've worked with roughnecks and I've talked their language because I needed their respect
[51:40.640 --> 51:43.320] to get the job done.
[51:43.320 --> 51:45.000] Does it represent me all the time?
[51:45.000 --> 51:46.000] No.
[51:46.000 --> 51:47.000] Would I say it to my mother?
[51:47.000 --> 51:48.440] Of course not.
[51:48.440 --> 51:51.400] Would I want my mother to know I even said it?
[51:51.400 --> 51:52.560] No.
[51:52.560 --> 51:53.560] But that's not the point.
[51:53.560 --> 51:55.000] I had to get a job done.
[51:55.000 --> 51:56.320] So I had to be one of the boys.
[51:56.320 --> 51:57.320] All right.
[51:57.320 --> 52:02.920] Now, I'm sure Donald Trump with all of his construction, whatever, words my grandmother,
[52:02.920 --> 52:09.640] wonderful love goddess taught me, sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will
[52:09.640 --> 52:12.360] never hurt me.
[52:12.360 --> 52:14.960] Exactly.
[52:14.960 --> 52:21.840] And the question that I have is just what happened?
[52:21.840 --> 52:28.480] I mean, all of the mainstream media spin, I mean, from the get go, from the beginning
[52:28.480 --> 52:29.480] of the primaries.
[52:29.480 --> 52:30.960] And they said, oh, he can't make it.
[52:30.960 --> 52:32.480] He can't get the Republican nomination.
[52:32.480 --> 52:33.480] Okay.
[52:33.480 --> 52:34.480] He ended up getting that.
[52:34.480 --> 52:43.320] I mean, just every seemingly force was against him outwardly, okay, from just everything,
[52:43.320 --> 52:50.160] the media, all the rigging of the voting machines, which we've known has been going on for years.
[52:50.160 --> 52:58.040] And to me, it really is astonishing that despite all of the election rigging and all of the
[52:58.040 --> 53:05.040] brainwashing, it seems like we were able to overcome that.
[53:05.040 --> 53:09.320] And I'm like, wow, how did that happen?
[53:09.320 --> 53:16.880] I guess it's just trying to rip off an election when the landslide is, we're talking 75, maybe
[53:16.880 --> 53:20.840] to 90%, I guess they just can't do it.
[53:20.840 --> 53:21.840] Okay.
[53:21.840 --> 53:27.960] I guess our theory was right all along, our hypothesis that if the landslide reaches a
[53:27.960 --> 53:34.000] certain tipping point, a critical mass, it's too big to steal.
[53:34.000 --> 53:36.600] I guess they can't do it after all.
[53:36.600 --> 53:45.280] Whenever they did what I did early on, on the radio, I underestimated the intelligence
[53:45.280 --> 53:49.960] of my audience and I was embarrassed for that.
[53:49.960 --> 53:54.920] I stopped doing that and my show got a lot better.
[53:54.920 --> 53:59.280] Well, Randy, going back to the rural America, really taking it by storm.
[53:59.280 --> 54:05.600] I mean, it's a lot harder to steal the elections in those areas because there's not as many
[54:05.600 --> 54:11.080] people and the people have much more oversight concerning how their elections are run.
[54:11.080 --> 54:15.440] A lot of them, they still use paper ballots and they're serious about it.
[54:15.440 --> 54:20.820] And so it's just amazing to me, even with all the vote flipping and Tom, you made a
[54:20.820 --> 54:30.480] really good point concerning them waiting to report the outcome of the major metropolitan
[54:30.480 --> 54:32.120] areas.
[54:32.120 --> 54:33.120] It's like-
[54:33.120 --> 54:35.120] They got to wait to see how many votes they got to flip.
[54:35.120 --> 54:37.360] And they got to wait to see how many votes they got to flip.
[54:37.360 --> 54:43.720] And how is it going to fly to say that, oh, well, Hillary took 90% in all these major
[54:43.720 --> 54:45.200] metropolitan areas?
[54:45.200 --> 54:46.200] What?
[54:46.200 --> 54:48.520] No, I don't think so.
[54:48.520 --> 54:54.240] No, even here in New York City, Trump got a substantial vote.
[54:54.240 --> 55:01.400] But back to what we were talking about before also, there's a whole reality shift here.
[55:01.400 --> 55:07.200] I heard a comment said, well, I guess half the population doesn't really pay attention
[55:07.200 --> 55:11.280] to what dress the Kardashians wore today or something like that.
[55:11.280 --> 55:12.280] Okay.
[55:12.280 --> 55:15.120] There's this whole culture of this.
[55:15.120 --> 55:20.920] It's a reality shift and people that don't listen to networks like this or shows like
[55:20.920 --> 55:28.320] this or my show, they still think that the media is their friend.
[55:28.320 --> 55:32.480] They still think that the media's job is to inform them.
[55:32.480 --> 55:38.840] They still think that the media's job is to tell them the truth, not, not, not.
[55:38.840 --> 55:45.720] The media's job is to tell them enough truth to be able to buffalo them on the big truth.
[55:45.720 --> 55:49.920] Because the media is owned by the globalist oligarchs.
[55:49.920 --> 55:56.200] And if you think that the globalist oligarchs will allow anything to go through their media
[55:56.200 --> 56:01.280] that will threaten their power and prosperity, I got a bridge I'd love to sell you at a great
[56:01.280 --> 56:02.280] price.
[56:02.280 --> 56:07.440] A mere 10 minute walk from my house here goes right to Manhattan from Brooklyn.
[56:07.440 --> 56:12.920] And if anybody could sell you the Brooklyn Bridge, I would be somebody who lives right
[56:12.920 --> 56:13.920] next to it.
[56:13.920 --> 56:16.640] I know Tom, it's, it's really true.
[56:16.640 --> 56:22.760] And you know what guys and gals, I break down the people now, not by are they conservative
[56:22.760 --> 56:30.040] or libertarian or progressive or liberal or what, I don't use those measurements anymore.
[56:30.040 --> 56:32.600] It's much simpler.
[56:32.600 --> 56:37.760] Do you believe in the mainstream media or not?
[56:37.760 --> 56:38.760] That's it.
[56:38.760 --> 56:42.040] It's, and that cuts across all boundaries.
[56:42.040 --> 56:46.260] This is why we do alternative media for so many years now.
[56:46.260 --> 56:50.560] And we're having an impact and we're having an effect, but I don't care if they're conservatives.
[56:50.560 --> 56:54.840] I don't care if they're liberals, if they think the mainstream media is telling them
[56:54.840 --> 56:57.320] the truth, they're goners.
[56:57.320 --> 57:01.160] And they're crying right now on the left, because they believe the mainstream media
[57:01.160 --> 57:05.560] and they got hit in the face with a reality show because the mainstream media was lying
[57:05.560 --> 57:10.160] to them to set up the theft, but it was too big to steal.
[57:10.160 --> 57:14.600] So Tom, and I want to, if you have time, I'd like to hold you over to the next segment
[57:14.600 --> 57:16.080] because we're almost coming to the top of the hour.
[57:16.080 --> 57:17.080] It's amazing.
[57:17.080 --> 57:18.080] That's fine.
[57:18.080 --> 57:23.560] It's just, but speaking of the crying, can you just tell us what's going on in New York
[57:23.560 --> 57:26.080] right now regarding the crying?
[57:26.080 --> 57:27.960] I mean, you, you live there.
[57:27.960 --> 57:30.320] I mean, that state went for Hillary.
[57:30.320 --> 57:33.880] What is going on right now, like in your neighborhood or around you with, with the crying, please
[57:33.880 --> 57:41.120] tell us this belief because they believe the law, excuse me, because they believed the
[57:41.120 --> 57:44.080] lying Hillary and the lying mainstream media.
[57:44.080 --> 57:47.760] What is it that they believe Tom in your, in your assessment?
[57:47.760 --> 57:51.640] First word, Donald Trump, misogynist.
[57:51.640 --> 57:54.280] How can we have a misogynist angry guy?
[57:54.280 --> 57:56.080] He's going to blow up the world.
[57:56.080 --> 57:59.040] You know, all these misogyny is the main thing.
[57:59.040 --> 58:02.760] It's the perfect, it's the perfect setup.
[58:02.760 --> 58:07.120] The misogynist trying to block the first legitimate woman president.
[58:07.120 --> 58:08.620] You can't get better than that.
[58:08.620 --> 58:12.000] This is worldwide world WWF wrestling.
[58:12.000 --> 58:18.320] I mean, you know, what do they have as far as Hillary is concerned that they like about
[58:18.320 --> 58:21.920] her or, or do, or is it just everything is against him?
[58:21.920 --> 58:28.440] Number one, she's a woman, number two, number two, they don't know anything about what she
[58:28.440 --> 58:31.040] did to the Libyans or to the Syria.
[58:31.040 --> 58:32.040] They have no idea.
[58:32.040 --> 58:35.680] They got signs in their windows saying refugees welcome here.
[58:35.680 --> 58:40.740] If they were honest, they would say Hillary's refugees because she made them in Syria are
[58:40.740 --> 58:42.280] welcome here.
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[01:00:57.720 --> 01:01:04.240] The NSA was established today in history.
[01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:08.940] In recent news, WikiLeaks just dumped part 30 of Hillary Clinton's campaign manager John
[01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:13.320] Podesta's hacked emails, bringing the total thus far to over 47,000.
[01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.360] Julian Assange, who still is essentially on house arrest at the Ecuadorian embassy in
[01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.640] London, gave an interview with Russia Today where he claims that the outcome of next Tuesday's
[01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:25.960] presidential election between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton has already been decided,
[01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:32.040] saying, quote, Because he has had every establishment off his side, Trump does not have one establishment,
[01:01:32.040 --> 01:01:35.920] maybe with the exception of the evangelicals, if you can call them an establishment.
[01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:40.400] Banks, intelligence, arms companies, foreign money, et cetera, are all united behind Hillary
[01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.400] Clinton and the media as well, media owners and the journalists themselves.
[01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:50.240] This is days after political activists discovered a hidden website for WRCB and NBC affiliate
[01:01:50.240 --> 01:01:55.320] out of Chattanooga, Tennessee, showing election results with Hillary Clinton securing 343
[01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.360] electoral votes and 42 percent of the popular vote.
[01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.040] Hillary, her campaign and the media are accusing Russia for the hacking of tens of thousands
[01:02:02.040 --> 01:02:04.920] of emails that WikiLeaks has dumped out in the past weeks.
[01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.760] However, Julian Assange has vehemently denied any involvement from the Kremlin.
[01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.360] A majority of Hillary's hacked emails that have been released via WikiLeaks since March
[01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:22.000] of 2016 can be searched through at WikiLeaks.org forward slash Clinton dash emails.
[01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:26.080] CBS News reported earlier today that U.S. intelligence agencies have alerted joint terrorism
[01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:30.520] task forces that Al Qaeda could potentially be planning terrorist attacks in New York,
[01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:34.600] Texas and Virginia for Monday, the day before the election, though no specific cities and
[01:02:34.600 --> 01:02:36.080] landmarks are mentioned.
[01:02:36.080 --> 01:02:39.640] Counterterrorism spokespersons have stated that as the election day nears, federal law
[01:02:39.640 --> 01:02:43.880] enforcement is planning for several worst case scenarios, while earlier this week an
[01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:48.600] alert warned local police of polling places being seen as attractive targets for lone
[01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:53.800] wolf type of attacks by individuals motivated by violent extremist ideologies such as sovereign
[01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:54.800] citizens.
[01:02:54.800 --> 01:03:24.720] This was Brooke Rhodey with your Lowdown for November 4th, 2016.
[01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:04.520] Hi, folks.
[01:05:04.520 --> 01:05:05.520] We are back.
[01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:09.040] This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:12.280] We are here with a very special guest, Tom Kiley.
[01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:18.200] We are discussing the election and we're having a post-election analysis here.
[01:05:18.200 --> 01:05:25.720] And I wanted to get to this clip here of Ron Paul, an interview that Alex did with Ron
[01:05:25.720 --> 01:05:34.640] Paul, where he's bringing it back to an ideological, basically it's a battle, it's a war of ideology.
[01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:40.520] It's not just about changing politicians or putting term limits.
[01:05:40.520 --> 01:05:42.680] These are all like band-aids on the problem.
[01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:48.760] And so I wanted to just go to some of what he said here so that we could discuss the
[01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:56.520] ideology here and how did, and Tom, you mentioned bringing up, how did people get so ideologically
[01:05:56.520 --> 01:05:58.720] corrupted in the first place?
[01:05:58.720 --> 01:06:03.600] So if y'all would entertain us here for a moment, I want to play this Ron Paul interview.
[01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:16.640] The omnibudsman of liberty, Dr. No, the guy that never compromised with tyranny.
[01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:19.360] We appreciate you coming on with us.
[01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:20.360] Thank you.
[01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:21.360] Good to be with you, Alex.
[01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:26.720] I can ask a lot of questions, but just out of the gates, what do you think of this election?
[01:06:26.720 --> 01:06:27.720] I think it's chaos.
[01:06:27.720 --> 01:06:32.760] I think it's a reflection of where we are economically speaking, where we are monetarily
[01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:35.920] speaking, where we are on our foreign policy, totally chaotic.
[01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.960] The people are angry and upset, but I don't think they've quite figured out exactly where
[01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:41.960] the problem is.
[01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:45.320] They don't think in philosophic terms, they think in political terms.
[01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:46.720] The problem is not political.
[01:06:46.720 --> 01:06:52.040] The political chicanery that goes on is a reflection of bad philosophy, whether it comes
[01:06:52.040 --> 01:06:57.520] to economic policies, this whole idea of Keynesian economics, it's a failure just as socialism
[01:06:57.520 --> 01:06:58.840] has failed.
[01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:02.680] Our system has failed and people don't quite see it that way.
[01:07:02.680 --> 01:07:08.040] Inflationism has failed, the central banking ideas have failed, and the foreign intervention
[01:07:08.040 --> 01:07:13.520] has failed, and yet they still think of details of, well, maybe we need a better manager.
[01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:15.400] Maybe we ought to do it this way, that way.
[01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:16.640] We shouldn't go into this country.
[01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.240] We should go into this other country.
[01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:19.960] We shouldn't spend so much money here.
[01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:25.760] No, they miss the whole point that what we need is an understanding of what true liberty
[01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.380] is all about and why that's an individual matter.
[01:07:28.380 --> 01:07:30.400] It's not collective.
[01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.440] And quite frankly, I spend my time talking to young people because I think that's what
[01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:35.440] we need.
[01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:42.200] We need an educated new generation that will be more intense on relying on liberty rather
[01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:47.400] than relying on the political process where they're trying to get one advantage over another.
[01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:52.520] Do you have any predictions for this election that we're now in?
[01:07:52.520 --> 01:07:56.440] Well, my prediction is that not a whole lot is going to change.
[01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.240] I think the momentum is so great.
[01:07:58.240 --> 01:08:00.440] There's a lot of good intentions out there.
[01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.600] But I think that the spending is going to continue.
[01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:06.000] I think the printing of money is going to continue.
[01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.480] The deficits are going to continue.
[01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.120] I've become cynical over the many decades I've been involved.
[01:08:11.120 --> 01:08:15.760] I mean, if you go back to the Ronald Reagan era, I was so excited about that.
[01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:23.640] I was a supporter of his in 1976, and yet when he was in, the debt went up, the spending
[01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:24.640] went up.
[01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:31.920] You know, when the Congress finally was controlled by Republicans and the Senate and the presidency,
[01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:32.920] guess what?
[01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:33.920] We spent more money than the Democrat.
[01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:34.920] That's right.
[01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:36.560] So I'm rather cynical about the whole thing.
[01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:41.040] The momentum is great, and as much as we look toward, and I certainly do look toward the
[01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:48.120] positive side of the people waking up, there's a lot of people out there that want government.
[01:08:48.120 --> 01:08:54.600] And I think the result of this election will be that probably 97% of the members of Congress
[01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:55.600] are going to be re-elected.
[01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:00.200] You know, it's going to be pretty much the status quo.
[01:09:00.200 --> 01:09:05.540] And I think we have more work to do in the intellectual sphere, the understanding of
[01:09:05.540 --> 01:09:11.520] economic policy, the understanding of the nature of money, and then that will eventually
[01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:14.220] be reflected in our members of Congress.
[01:09:14.220 --> 01:09:18.280] You mentioned in the introduction that I've done some work on the Federal Reserve.
[01:09:18.280 --> 01:09:24.160] But I worked hard in the Congress, especially when I interviewed the chairman of the Federal
[01:09:24.160 --> 01:09:26.680] Reserve boards on various occasions.
[01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:31.600] But my approach was to reach the people outside of Washington.
[01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.600] I know you're a purist, that's why I respect you, and you've always stuck by your guns,
[01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.160] and that's the way to do it.
[01:09:37.160 --> 01:09:40.560] But expanding on that, I mean, you've got the best voting record, probably anybody,
[01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.820] you know, since Thomas Jefferson.
[01:09:42.820 --> 01:09:48.760] But if we expand on that, the incredible awakening, people know about the TPP, they know about
[01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:52.280] globalism, they know about vote rigging, they know about the Federal Reserve.
[01:09:52.280 --> 01:09:54.120] What is it like to watch Trump?
[01:09:54.120 --> 01:09:57.920] I know he's not perfect, bad on tortures, iPhones, surveillance, he doesn't get a lot
[01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:58.920] of Internet stuff.
[01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.600] I mean, he admits he's kind of a troglodyte when it comes to technology.
[01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:05.920] But what is it like to see the movement that Barry Goldwater and the Liberty movement and
[01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:12.800] you grew, the American people grew, undoubtedly Trump is a libertarian style insurrection
[01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:14.000] into the Republican Party.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.080] They see it as outside, they're trying to reject it.
[01:10:16.080 --> 01:10:19.200] The libertarians have been taken over by the Democrats and Republicans, they've got Johnson
[01:10:19.200 --> 01:10:23.200] and the other guy, well, basically endorsing Hillary.
[01:10:23.200 --> 01:10:24.200] It's outrageous.
[01:10:24.200 --> 01:10:28.120] All I'm saying is, not an approval of, I'm trying to get an endorsement of Trump.
[01:10:28.120 --> 01:10:33.860] I'm saying, what is it like for you to see the Liberty movement, basically in the hands
[01:10:33.860 --> 01:10:37.600] of Trump, with Breitbart and others, and I think Breitbart are good folks, intending
[01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.040] to fight on even if this election is stolen?
[01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:47.000] All I'm saying is, coexisting as original patriots, like yourself, how do you see that
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.200] coexisting with what's happened with Trump?
[01:10:50.200 --> 01:10:55.440] Well, you admit that he's not perfect, and I'm in the business of trying to present the
[01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:58.760] case for Liberty and not water it down.
[01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:03.280] And those who are more involved in politics back and forth, and they say, well, a little
[01:11:03.280 --> 01:11:07.480] watering down, a little acceptance, a little bit of hope, a little bit of prayer, you know,
[01:11:07.480 --> 01:11:13.600] I don't have any gripes with that, but I think you have to be realistic that where are we
[01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:17.120] today, under those circumstances, and if you water it down a little bit.
[01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:23.800] You know, I used to say when I was campaigning that, you know, if you talk about food stamps
[01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.960] for the rich or the poor, and you say, well, there's people in need, so we have to help
[01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:27.960] them out.
[01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.800] But there's only 3% of the people who need help.
[01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:34.740] So let's give help to 3% of the people.
[01:11:34.740 --> 01:11:38.480] You give up 100% of the principles that you're dealing with.
[01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:44.520] So that's why if you water it down a little bit and understand that if you're a political
[01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:50.240] activist and you love this party stuff and you have high hopes, get people involved.
[01:11:50.240 --> 01:11:55.600] But the only benefit comes from people changing their minds and our understanding that people's
[01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:01.080] attitudes have to be so sound that they reflect on the members of Congress.
[01:12:01.080 --> 01:12:05.640] I don't think the people in Congress, you know, in hopes that they will change their
[01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:09.160] position a little bit that all of a sudden the people are going to wake up.
[01:12:09.160 --> 01:12:14.680] Right now there's too many people, you know, I had a lot of young people that came out
[01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:16.500] during my campaign.
[01:12:16.500 --> 01:12:21.400] But you know, I was more discouraged by the fact that Bernie Sanders got bigger crowds
[01:12:21.400 --> 01:12:23.240] and he says, I'm a socialist.
[01:12:23.240 --> 01:12:25.800] So I knew, boy, my work is cut out for myself.
[01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.520] You know, there's this, so I'm dealing in that area of changing people's minds because
[01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:36.840] quite frankly, I think that if we have an intellectual discussion between what the free
[01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:39.280] market is and socialism, that we can win this.
[01:12:39.280 --> 01:12:45.200] I also work under the impression that getting 51 percent to vote one way or the other isn't
[01:12:45.200 --> 01:12:46.200] the important thing.
[01:12:46.200 --> 01:12:50.600] You need eight percent of the people who are the thought leaders in the country, the people
[01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:55.320] who write the books and write the magazine and people like you that have an access, you
[01:12:55.320 --> 01:12:59.640] know, to to the public, they're the ones who have to understand it.
[01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:06.560] So I am too discouraged about, you know, nitpicking and changing a thing here.
[01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.640] This policy here, this except this.
[01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:09.640] This isn't good.
[01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.120] A little protectionism doesn't hurt.
[01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:13.400] We've got to change the whole system.
[01:13:13.400 --> 01:13:14.800] We've got to change the whole fraudulent system.
[01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.280] We've got to change the minds, minds of the people.
[01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:19.360] That's what's happened.
[01:13:19.360 --> 01:13:24.040] And you can only do that one person at a time, Ron Paul, Liberty Report dot com.
[01:13:24.040 --> 01:13:26.520] You've got so many great sides, TV shows, radio shows.
[01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:28.080] I hear it all over the radio.
[01:13:28.080 --> 01:13:32.560] It's wonderful to almost see you freer now that you're not in Congress than you were
[01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.680] before to really educate.
[01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:37.680] Yes.
[01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:42.960] And I and I feel good about it that, you know, there's still an audience, you know, most
[01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:47.080] people when they leave Congress, you know, the Alex Jones of the world, they don't call
[01:13:47.080 --> 01:13:48.160] you up anymore.
[01:13:48.160 --> 01:13:53.160] But still, there are people that are interested and I am pleased and I have to admit it that
[01:13:53.160 --> 01:13:57.280] if they're interested in what I'm saying, you know, the most flattering thing that I
[01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:00.880] had in Washington was I went my own way.
[01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.480] I didn't try to think that I could fight with them and change their minds or give great
[01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:06.480] speeches.
[01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:11.800] But I would vote if it happened to be by myself, I would do it in a quiet, steady way.
[01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:15.440] But every once in a while, a member of Congress would come up and sit down beside me because
[01:14:15.440 --> 01:14:20.000] I'd all be by myself voting and he would say, why do you do that?
[01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.000] Which was a sincere question.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:26.160] So one person at a time like that and a few of them changed their ways and they become
[01:14:26.160 --> 01:14:27.360] much more interested in.
[01:14:27.360 --> 01:14:28.360] Well, that's the point.
[01:14:28.360 --> 01:14:32.720] You do something with no support, you do something with no support in Congress and really change
[01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:35.080] the paradigm to a great extent to at least have a national debate.
[01:14:35.080 --> 01:14:40.640] And that's why, you know, I model myself just historically, of seeing what you and others
[01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:45.800] have done with the wind blowing in your face over time, you end up turning the tables.
[01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:50.320] And getting back to Trump, cuz it's obviously the big phenomenon, the election right now.
[01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:55.160] The biggest reason I've supported him is so that I could also sit there and point out
[01:14:55.160 --> 01:14:56.160] things that were wrong.
[01:14:56.160 --> 01:15:00.560] I've seen Trump actually change when he sees something is wrong, if it's actually genuine
[01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:01.780] and not from the establishment.
[01:15:01.780 --> 01:15:06.400] But obviously, looking at Trump, because obviously people wanna know what Ron Paul thinks about
[01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:07.400] this.
[01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:12.760] The entire establishment, the communist Chinese, the socialist Pope, the Mexican presidents,
[01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:17.080] all the big corrupt combines, the Republican Party machinery that has attacked you and
[01:15:17.080 --> 01:15:18.080] try to destroy you.
[01:15:18.080 --> 01:15:23.520] I mean, you know a man by his enemies and Dr. Paul, Trump has the same enemies you had,
[01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:27.080] the same enemies I have, and they are so opposed to him.
[01:15:27.080 --> 01:15:28.080] I think that's undoubtable.
[01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:31.120] So what do you think of that and what do you think that signifies?
[01:15:31.120 --> 01:15:37.280] Well, I think what you're doing is fine and dandy and you make those points and you can
[01:15:37.280 --> 01:15:38.280] make inroads.
[01:15:38.280 --> 01:15:40.280] But my approach has been been different.
[01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:42.000] I take it out of the personalities.
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.600] I never wanted it when I bet you can't find anything I've ever said on the house floor
[01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.800] about, you know, the President of the United States is a bum.
[01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.640] Or saying the Democrats are, you know, the fall and it's all the fall of the Democrat.
[01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:59.320] No, I'm always going to be talking about changing people's minds about why printing money is
[01:15:59.320 --> 01:16:03.080] lousy, why fighting wars overseas is bad and not-
[01:16:03.080 --> 01:16:04.080] No, I got it.
[01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:08.480] You are a gentleman who is reaching out to people trying to change them and Trump is
[01:16:08.480 --> 01:16:11.480] more of a bull than a China cabinet.
[01:16:11.480 --> 01:16:18.600] I think that's the case and hopefully there's room for both ways of changing things.
[01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:23.320] Because, you know, I sort of enjoy the idea, though I never became a Trump supporter.
[01:16:23.320 --> 01:16:27.840] I enjoyed the idea that right now we're winning on some of these issues.
[01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:33.080] One is that it's a little bit more popular to challenge political correctness than it
[01:16:33.080 --> 01:16:35.640] was a few years ago.
[01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.160] All right.
[01:16:37.160 --> 01:16:38.560] We are going to be right back.
[01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:39.560] We're going to break.
[01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:46.200] Got about another 60 seconds of this interview with Dr. Ron Paul and then we are going to
[01:16:46.200 --> 01:16:51.160] have some analysis and comment on that with our very special guest, Tom Kiley.
[01:16:51.160 --> 01:16:54.280] I'm Deborah Stevens here with Randy Kelton.
[01:16:54.280 --> 01:16:55.280] This is the rule of law.
[01:16:55.280 --> 01:17:00.280] We'll be right back.
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[01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:36.400] I ain't going to fool us again.
[01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:38.480] It would appear so.
[01:19:38.480 --> 01:19:39.720] This is the Rule of Law.
[01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:44.080] I am Deborah Stevens here with Randy Kelton and our very special guest, Tom Kiley.
[01:19:44.080 --> 01:19:48.040] Tom, thank you so much for hanging on with us after your two-hour show.
[01:19:48.040 --> 01:19:49.040] We really appreciate it.
[01:19:49.040 --> 01:19:53.440] I can't wait to hear your comments on this Ron Paul interview, but let us finish the
[01:19:53.440 --> 01:19:57.740] Ron Paul interview first, just a few more minutes, and then we're going to take our
[01:19:57.740 --> 01:20:03.400] commentary from Randy and myself and Tom Kiley, not necessarily in that order.
[01:20:03.400 --> 01:20:06.760] Of course, Tom is our esteemed guest, so we'll let him go first.
[01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.640] But first, before that, back to Ron Paul.
[01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:12.720] And I think the American people are waking up.
[01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:14.720] They're so sick and tired of that.
[01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:15.720] Bingo, bingo.
[01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.240] That's what I'm saying, Dr. Paul, is that Trump has taken what you built and others
[01:20:20.240 --> 01:20:23.000] built and we built and magnified it.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.120] There's some imperfections there, but I think I just heard you right.
[01:20:26.120 --> 01:20:30.040] You said I'm kind of a Trump supporter on the fact that he's made it okay to have free
[01:20:30.040 --> 01:20:33.840] speech and stand up against the bullying of the PC crowd.
[01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:41.080] Okay, well, no, I'm glad that has happened, but I see it in a different sense because
[01:20:41.080 --> 01:20:43.040] I use it in a different fashion.
[01:20:43.040 --> 01:20:47.400] I would say, well, who uses which bathroom is a private property issue.
[01:20:47.400 --> 01:20:50.000] We need to deal with the issue of privacy.
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.120] Why do governments own these things?
[01:20:52.120 --> 01:20:56.520] Why in the world would we be talking about this because people can't walk into our houses
[01:20:56.520 --> 01:20:59.640] and decide who's- Why is the government involved on businesses?
[01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:00.640] Should they have whatever they want?
[01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:02.120] Do you want to have the same sex?
[01:21:02.120 --> 01:21:04.280] Do you want to have them separate?
[01:21:04.280 --> 01:21:11.840] I want them to use the total principle of freedom, property rights, voluntary contracts,
[01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:13.200] non-aggression principle.
[01:21:13.200 --> 01:21:18.520] I want to always emphasize the philosophic underpinnings of what we're talking about.
[01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:23.720] And you're dealing with one of the specifics, and you will go a certain way politically.
[01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:29.400] But I've lost any enthusiasm for thinking that if we get a few more people in Congress
[01:21:29.400 --> 01:21:31.680] next year, we're going to have a balanced budget.
[01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:33.400] No, that's not going to happen.
[01:21:33.400 --> 01:21:34.920] I never really believed it.
[01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:36.600] Never went there with the intention.
[01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:40.040] Went there as a surprise because I didn't think anybody would vote for me if I took
[01:21:40.040 --> 01:21:46.080] this position of saying that governments should be very, very small.
[01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:54.960] Okay, there was a couple more minutes where they talked a bit about market analysis, but
[01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.600] I can recap that later.
[01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:03.040] First, I want to go back to our special guest and one of the most popular talk show hosts
[01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:05.280] on this network, Mr. Tom Kiley.
[01:22:05.280 --> 01:22:12.400] So Tom, we started off this conversation tonight concerning ideology.
[01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:16.200] This is like a battle of ideology and educating people.
[01:22:16.200 --> 01:22:19.860] So that's why I wanted to play this clip from Ron Paul tonight.
[01:22:19.860 --> 01:22:27.560] So just getting back to this topic of ideology, what are your thoughts on what Ron Paul said
[01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:33.600] and concerning your experience of people that you know and have seen in New York?
[01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:38.480] I'm going to give you the floor here and just tell us your thoughts on all of these issues.
[01:22:38.480 --> 01:22:41.160] Well, the first thing, I love Ron Paul.
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:44.560] I respect him a great deal for a whole lot of reasons, not the least of which is that
[01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:49.520] he's a very independent person and an independent voice and I respect him.
[01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:56.680] So what I'm about to say is, I don't mean any disrespect, but I say this about a lot
[01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:02.560] of people and I'm sorry that he has fallen into this trap because I hear this all the
[01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:04.520] time from people.
[01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.200] They say, and he said it, he started his whole talk.
[01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:10.680] The people are tired of these failures of government.
[01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:14.000] Government fail, government fail, fail, fail, government fail, government fail, government
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:15.000] fail.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:18.320] No, wrong.
[01:23:18.320 --> 01:23:22.880] Government has been a spectacular success.
[01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:28.120] It has never been so successful as it is right now.
[01:23:28.120 --> 01:23:31.160] 4.01% of the population.
[01:23:31.160 --> 01:23:34.840] They are ungodly rich now.
[01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:38.720] It's been sucked out of what we used to call the American middle class.
[01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:42.640] So no, please Dr. Paul, don't say the government has failed.
[01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:49.440] It has just not worked for the vast majority of the people, but it's worked spectacularly
[01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:55.840] well in a suction of wealth and power to a tiny fraction.
[01:23:55.840 --> 01:24:00.880] This would make the kings of England jealous at how great it worked.
[01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:02.800] Geez, why couldn't we do that?
[01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:03.800] Okay.
[01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:05.960] Well, yes, Tom, you're correct.
[01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:08.800] Government does what it is told to do.
[01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:16.680] Dr. Paul has never really addressed the fact of this shadow government that's behind the
[01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:19.000] scenes controlling this.
[01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:20.720] And yes, you are correct.
[01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.680] What's happened up until this point has been a spectacular success for the ones that are
[01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:31.240] implementing these policies.
[01:24:31.240 --> 01:24:39.600] But back to the issue of relative truth, Dr. Paul is saying in the eyes of the little guy,
[01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:40.600] government's been a failure.
[01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:44.480] I understand, but you need to make that distinction.
[01:24:44.480 --> 01:24:45.880] You need to communicate.
[01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.560] You need to be clear.
[01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:54.160] Otherwise, the little guys who are getting the shaft couldn't misinterpret.
[01:24:54.160 --> 01:24:56.060] Dr. Paul's a big guy.
[01:24:56.060 --> 01:24:57.520] He's been there in the halls of power.
[01:24:57.520 --> 01:24:58.520] He should know.
[01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:00.600] What's the result of what Dr. Paul says?
[01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:02.560] Well, they're bumbling.
[01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.800] Well, you know, they gave it a good shot.
[01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.680] I call this, I've got a name for this.
[01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:13.320] I call it the incompetency defense, okay?
[01:25:13.320 --> 01:25:14.320] I'm sorry.
[01:25:14.320 --> 01:25:15.600] I didn't mean to kill that person.
[01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.040] I just didn't know what I was doing when I gave him too much medicine or whatever.
[01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:20.040] No, no, no.
[01:25:20.040 --> 01:25:21.040] I tried.
[01:25:21.040 --> 01:25:23.600] I wanted to say no, no, no, it is wrong.
[01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.900] It is not incompetency.
[01:25:25.900 --> 01:25:31.720] Incompetency and incompetency is used to hide the nefarious truth of the situation, which
[01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:39.400] is our government has been bought and paid to screw us and not to work for us.
[01:25:39.400 --> 01:25:45.280] And it wouldn't last two seconds if the truth was known and if Dr. Paul was truthful about
[01:25:45.280 --> 01:25:46.280] that.
[01:25:46.280 --> 01:25:54.600] So we need to cloak it, camouflage it in bumbling as failure after failure, gee whiz, nice people.
[01:25:54.600 --> 01:26:00.160] They gave it a good shot and somehow it always accidentally just ends up where everybody
[01:26:00.160 --> 01:26:03.120] but the 1% is screwed.
[01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:04.120] Come on.
[01:26:04.120 --> 01:26:05.120] Give me a break.
[01:26:05.120 --> 01:26:08.280] And that's my first disagreement with not just Dr. Paul.
[01:26:08.280 --> 01:26:09.280] It's through everything.
[01:26:09.280 --> 01:26:10.280] It's through the media.
[01:26:10.280 --> 01:26:11.800] Ah, they laugh at government.
[01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:17.720] They make them look like bumbling fools, Iran-Contra, Iran-Contra, oh, a few, you know, it was,
[01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:19.600] you know, it was, we were incompetent.
[01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:23.280] We couldn't control a few rogue people, nonsense.
[01:26:23.280 --> 01:26:29.320] This is policy set by the people who own the world.
[01:26:29.320 --> 01:26:35.680] And they need a facade of a democratic government to make us think that we have a say and make
[01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:38.200] us think that we have some control.
[01:26:38.200 --> 01:26:39.840] Yet who would vote for this?
[01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:45.440] Who year after year, decade after decade, would send people to Washington to destroy
[01:26:45.440 --> 01:26:52.720] the middle class so successfully, layer by layer, year by year, minute by minute.
[01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.720] But that's exactly what they do.
[01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:59.800] And the way they do it is by saying, oh, they fail, they try, they bumble, let's try another
[01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:00.800] tinker with it.
[01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.280] Let's try another configuration.
[01:27:02.280 --> 01:27:07.160] No, people have to look at it realistically with open eyes.
[01:27:07.160 --> 01:27:11.080] No, no, no, there's a class of people on earth.
[01:27:11.080 --> 01:27:15.200] It's a fact of life with human nature, human society.
[01:27:15.200 --> 01:27:16.240] It's always been here.
[01:27:16.240 --> 01:27:17.660] They're called oligarchs.
[01:27:17.660 --> 01:27:22.520] And if you ignore them, they will bleed you dry.
[01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:31.760] When did MSNBC, when did Fox News ever use the word oligarch when they weren't talking
[01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.280] about Russians?
[01:27:33.280 --> 01:27:36.300] We got them right here too.
[01:27:36.300 --> 01:27:38.600] Let's just be honest about it, Dr. Paul.
[01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:43.000] The oligarchs that control this thing have rigged the system.
[01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:47.080] At least the people are waking up to the fact that it is a rigged system now, bravo.
[01:27:47.080 --> 01:27:50.380] Donald Trump says it all the time, bravo.
[01:27:50.380 --> 01:27:51.820] But no, it's not an accident.
[01:27:51.820 --> 01:27:52.820] It's not a failure.
[01:27:52.820 --> 01:27:59.760] It is a spectacular success at sucking this country dry.
[01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:08.640] A parasite knows how to feed off of you in a very subtle way so that you don't get rid
[01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:09.640] of it.
[01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:16.900] A mosquito doesn't come and bite you and, oh my God, ouch, no, no, they put out a little
[01:28:16.900 --> 01:28:21.720] anesthesia first so you don't feel them going in there.
[01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:25.940] That's what saying government has failed is doing.
[01:28:25.940 --> 01:28:29.480] It's the anesthesia so that we don't see what's really happening.
[01:28:29.480 --> 01:28:33.400] I don't know, I talk about this on my show all the time.
[01:28:33.400 --> 01:28:34.680] I hope I'm making sense.
[01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:41.240] No, you are, Tom, and yeah, some of these deeper issues Dr. Paul is not addressing,
[01:28:41.240 --> 01:28:47.760] but I think I'm trying to compare what you're saying with what he's saying.
[01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:52.680] It sounds to me like y'all are basically getting to the same point just from a couple of different
[01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:53.680] angles.
[01:28:53.680 --> 01:29:00.040] The result is the same, no question, but if you don't understand what your illness is,
[01:29:00.040 --> 01:29:01.600] you're never going to get healed.
[01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:08.520] Well, I mean, it has to go to the ideology.
[01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:16.640] So many of these people out here, thankfully not enough that they were able to overcome
[01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:22.380] what happened the other night, but they're just into this entitlement mentality.
[01:29:22.380 --> 01:29:24.120] It's an ideology.
[01:29:24.120 --> 01:29:27.160] They feel like the world owes them something.
[01:29:27.160 --> 01:29:32.960] They don't understand that the purpose of government is not here to provide services
[01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:37.960] and this oligarchy as you're talking about, the shadow government that controls, and you
[01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:44.900] were talking about through democracy, they use socialism and communism and this whole
[01:29:44.900 --> 01:29:51.520] ideology to centralize power in order to control us.
[01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:58.040] And I think one of the steps is realizing that we need to focus more on individual liberty
[01:29:58.040 --> 01:29:59.040] and freedom.
[01:29:59.040 --> 01:30:02.360] We'll be right back.
[01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:07.340] We all laughed when cartoonist Scott Adams drew comics of cubicle hell, but his hero
[01:30:07.340 --> 01:30:10.080] Dilbert now has science to back him up.
[01:30:10.080 --> 01:30:14.520] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back to tell you the downsides of the dreaded office
[01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:43.840] cubicle.
[01:30:45.160 --> 01:30:46.160] Attention managers.
[01:30:46.160 --> 01:30:51.880] A recent study found that noisy offices slash worker productivity and reduce their wellbeing
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[01:33:59.960 --> 01:34:02.120] This is the Rule of Law.
[01:34:02.120 --> 01:34:07.240] Tonight is Thursday, November 10, 2016, and I am Deborah Stevens.
[01:34:07.240 --> 01:34:10.040] I'm here with Randy Kelton.
[01:34:10.040 --> 01:34:15.560] And we are also here with our very special guest, Mr. Tom Kiley, who has been on this
[01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:17.280] network from the beginning.
[01:34:17.280 --> 01:34:21.640] And we are doing a post-election analysis.
[01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.440] And I just played a clip of Dr. Ron Paul.
[01:34:26.440 --> 01:34:29.680] And yes, Tom, of course, there are some shortcomings.
[01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:31.680] I agree with what you said.
[01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:40.320] But I also want to discuss some of the things that Ron Paul said that go to the basic principle
[01:34:40.320 --> 01:34:49.520] of that this is an ideological issue and that it's not just an issue of mechanics or outward
[01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:50.520] band aids.
[01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:53.320] I mean, you even basically went there yourself.
[01:34:53.320 --> 01:34:58.840] It sounds to me like you're basically saying the same thing that Ron Paul is saying, except
[01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:00.560] from a different perspective.
[01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.880] And of course, you're going further talking about the shadow government, which he's not
[01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:05.280] going to do.
[01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:11.680] But basically, y'all are coming at the same conclusion from two different perspectives
[01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:15.760] regarding changing the way that people think.
[01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:17.480] It starts in the mind.
[01:35:17.480 --> 01:35:24.400] And even Alex has said one of my favorite quotes from Alex is that tyranny starts in
[01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:29.520] the mind and breaking that tyranny also starts in the mind.
[01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:35.320] It's not a matter of, well, let's say like this person or that person or limit terms
[01:35:35.320 --> 01:35:40.120] or this or that or kind of the same thing that Ron Paul and what Tom was saying.
[01:35:40.120 --> 01:35:42.440] This is about changing the way that people think.
[01:35:42.440 --> 01:35:43.680] So Randy, go ahead.
[01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:45.920] You had some comments.
[01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:51.560] I would like to address that in a way to stitch these two together.
[01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:56.960] Anybody who listens to my show a lot know that my primary study is psychology and I
[01:35:56.960 --> 01:36:07.320] spend time trying to structure ideas in a way that ordinary people can look at it and
[01:36:07.320 --> 01:36:10.160] wrap their head around.
[01:36:10.160 --> 01:36:20.800] But Ron Paul was, if we're going to change the world and the government, we have to first
[01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.080] change the mind of the people.
[01:36:23.080 --> 01:36:30.160] And in listening to Tom earlier, he certainly made some adjustments for me in terms of how
[01:36:30.160 --> 01:36:32.640] to wrap my head around what's going on.
[01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:40.680] I do a show with Pastor Massad on Mondays and off times things will go on like when
[01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:51.040] the FBI director dropped the first investigation of Hillary, he's saying what are no good scoundrel
[01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:52.160] years and everything else.
[01:36:52.160 --> 01:36:56.720] And I'm always backing up saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, the one thing I know about
[01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:02.080] the government, it's never ever the way they presented to you.
[01:37:02.080 --> 01:37:08.120] So let's back up and see if we can find an underlying set of principles that's actually
[01:37:08.120 --> 01:37:13.760] going on here because they don't do any of this stuff by mistake.
[01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:23.560] And what Tom said really went to a metaphor I can wrap my head around, that I believe
[01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:24.560] he's right.
[01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:28.760] The government as a whole doesn't make mistakes.
[01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:35.360] And when things go on that we think are big horrendous errors, I'm always saying, wait
[01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:41.280] a minute, wait a minute, what else is going on here that they're not telling us?
[01:37:41.280 --> 01:37:43.080] And this goes exactly to the point.
[01:37:43.080 --> 01:37:49.360] They're always manipulating us like JP Morgan said, give the masses something to complain
[01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:54.320] about so they won't pay any attention while we empty their pockets.
[01:37:54.320 --> 01:38:01.120] Randy, the Middle East is on fire and it looks like a big failure.
[01:38:01.120 --> 01:38:04.240] It's not a failure.
[01:38:04.240 --> 01:38:09.100] They said we're going to give them democracy, but no, they just sell that to get you to
[01:38:09.100 --> 01:38:10.420] give up your sons and daughters.
[01:38:10.420 --> 01:38:12.400] They're not giving up their sons and daughters, okay?
[01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:13.400] But you know what?
[01:38:13.400 --> 01:38:20.160] The plan is to have chaos in the Middle East, but they can't say that with a straight face.
[01:38:20.160 --> 01:38:24.960] So it has to look like they bumbled, they failed, they, oh gee, no, no, no.
[01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:31.280] The Yanan plan from General Yanan of Israel says you break these big countries up that
[01:38:31.280 --> 01:38:37.320] by the way, you know, we just sort of carved up and created out of the Ottoman Turks.
[01:38:37.320 --> 01:38:40.960] You know, when we ran them, sure we wanted big countries, but we don't run them anymore.
[01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:45.760] So break them up into tribes that are always killing each other and warring with each other.
[01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:47.960] And it's a lot easier to manipulate.
[01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.200] Me, to you and I, we're rational.
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:54.360] Who would ever want to go into the Middle East and take a stable place like Iraq and
[01:38:54.360 --> 01:38:55.840] turn it into a hellhole?
[01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.720] Take a stable place like Libya, turn it into a hellhole.
[01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.080] Take a stable place like Syria.
[01:39:01.080 --> 01:39:02.080] What a failure.
[01:39:02.080 --> 01:39:06.720] No, that's exactly what the plan is, but they can't tell you that.
[01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:11.920] And when Ron Paul, you know, covers this, however inadvertently, I don't think he's
[01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:16.880] part of it, but you know, to say it's a failure, it's not a failure.
[01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:20.520] They can't sell you the truth, so they have to make it look like a failure.
[01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:21.520] Right, right.
[01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:22.520] Okay.
[01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:29.320] But you're speaking from a perspective of an educated person who has been awake for
[01:39:29.320 --> 01:39:38.680] a long time and Ron Paul is trying to appeal to masses that don't necessarily have that
[01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:43.520] kind of research in their head already or have done.
[01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:49.080] And you know, in the minds of the, you know, going back to the perspective issue, in their
[01:39:49.080 --> 01:39:51.040] minds it's a failure.
[01:39:51.040 --> 01:39:57.320] So he's trying to appeal to what their perception is and he's trying to come at it from an angle
[01:39:57.320 --> 01:40:06.040] of wait a minute, like what you just said, what business is it of ours to be interfering
[01:40:06.040 --> 01:40:08.600] over there in the first place?
[01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:09.600] Okay.
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:17.080] So it's like that question, we need to get that question to raise in people's minds.
[01:40:17.080 --> 01:40:18.920] What business is it of ours?
[01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:25.860] Why are we over there anyway to spread democracy, as you say on your show so many times.
[01:40:25.860 --> 01:40:31.300] We need to get people to start asking that question, you know, why are we doing this?
[01:40:31.300 --> 01:40:32.640] Do we have any right to do this?
[01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:38.760] What makes us think that we have the right to impose our ideology or our form of government
[01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:41.760] or way of thinking on anyone else?
[01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:47.660] If we could get people to start even asking that question, it would cause a cascade effect
[01:40:47.660 --> 01:40:53.720] that would open the door, so to speak, so that they could see the deeper issues such
[01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:55.240] as the shadow government.
[01:40:55.240 --> 01:40:58.440] I think that's what's going on.
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:40:59.520] Take a step back.
[01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:00.520] Take a step back.
[01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:01.520] You're right.
[01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:04.720] Whose business is it of ours to be there in the first place?
[01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:06.860] Well, they did shock and awe.
[01:41:06.860 --> 01:41:08.320] They got everybody scared.
[01:41:08.320 --> 01:41:14.840] Okay, we got over there, but look at the results.
[01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:25.600] Look at the fruit of the seeds that were planted, okay, and it reveals a logical inconsistency.
[01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:32.440] I had people on my show, a teacher from Iraq from 2004.
[01:41:32.440 --> 01:41:36.800] We didn't like the idea that you all were coming in here and wrecking the place, but
[01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:38.200] you know what?
[01:41:38.200 --> 01:41:41.040] You were, at least you were America.
[01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:42.960] You people could do no wrong.
[01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:44.600] You knew how to fix everything.
[01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:45.600] You know what?
[01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:48.400] We didn't want you bombing us, but you know, hey, maybe something good will come out of
[01:41:48.400 --> 01:41:49.400] this.
[01:41:49.400 --> 01:41:54.840] And then you came and you wrecked this place and you destroyed it, you know, and you didn't
[01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:57.600] fix it, you know, like that.
[01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:03.320] There's a logical inconsistency, but by the time you understand that, the horse is out
[01:42:03.320 --> 01:42:07.160] of the barn and we're already onto wrecking a whole other country.
[01:42:07.160 --> 01:42:08.360] We didn't fix Iraq.
[01:42:08.360 --> 01:42:09.920] We didn't give them democracy.
[01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:11.080] We didn't do any of that.
[01:42:11.080 --> 01:42:12.080] We destroyed it.
[01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:15.520] Yes, of course, of course, Tom, and you're absolutely right, okay, and I think this is
[01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:17.460] where Ron Paul is going too.
[01:42:17.460 --> 01:42:28.400] So how do we change the way that people think to get them to recognize these illogical inconsistencies
[01:42:28.400 --> 01:42:35.000] so that, you know, the camel won't get all the way up inside the tent, so to speak.
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:39.400] How do we get people to see these things before it's too late?
[01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:42.440] Well, it's pretty easy.
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:49.240] I'll just say the following and then Randy, look, thank goodness Randy's here, okay?
[01:42:49.240 --> 01:42:56.040] Did I say anything right now that was highfalutin, that was hard to get?
[01:42:56.040 --> 01:42:59.600] No, I'm talking horse sense here, okay?
[01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.240] No, it's not a failure.
[01:43:02.240 --> 01:43:04.000] It's working great.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.400] It's not working for you.
[01:43:05.400 --> 01:43:08.360] Just a couple of words different, okay?
[01:43:08.360 --> 01:43:11.080] And it makes a whole different meaning, okay?
[01:43:11.080 --> 01:43:15.960] I don't think I just said anything that takes a rocket scientist to understand.
[01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:17.180] Hold on.
[01:43:17.180 --> 01:43:18.920] That's the point I want to go to.
[01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:28.940] If Ron Paul heard, I guarantee you he would say right on that it's exactly right.
[01:43:28.940 --> 01:43:35.880] This is how we change the mindset of people as we ask them to pull the curtain back and
[01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:41.160] look behind the curtain and see what you see there.
[01:43:41.160 --> 01:43:45.520] Stop watching the curtain wave and look at the razzle-dazzle look behind the curtain.
[01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:48.120] Look at the results, the fruit of the seeds.
[01:43:48.120 --> 01:43:49.120] That's it.
[01:43:49.120 --> 01:43:50.120] Hang on.
[01:43:50.120 --> 01:43:51.120] About to go to break.
[01:43:51.120 --> 01:43:54.960] Grant Kelton, Debra Stephens here with our special guest, Mr. Tom Kiley.
[01:43:54.960 --> 01:44:00.680] We'll be right back.
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[01:46:48.560 --> 01:47:15.960] All right, we are back, we've got one more segment, and wow, we could talk for hours
[01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:16.960] and hours.
[01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:22.280] I'd like to continue this post-election analysis next Thursday, because I know tomorrow night
[01:47:22.280 --> 01:47:26.640] you've got your four-hour info marathon, but I'm so happy that we have Tom Keiley with
[01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.400] us tonight.
[01:47:29.400 --> 01:47:36.280] I wanted to get back to this issue of the ideology and changing people's minds, one
[01:47:36.280 --> 01:47:44.000] person at a time, which is where Ron Paul was going, and yeah, I think there's reasons
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:51.400] why he's not totally revealing the reality concerning the shadow government right off
[01:47:51.400 --> 01:47:52.560] the bat.
[01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:58.800] He's trying to take things as far as baby steps for the common man, and how about we
[01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:03.600] get back to individual liberty and freedom and property rights?
[01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:09.200] Let's start from square one, because that opens the door for people to see what's really
[01:48:09.200 --> 01:48:10.200] going on.
[01:48:10.200 --> 01:48:18.960] Basically, it looks to me like Dr. Paul and Tom are saying the same thing, just coming
[01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:24.360] at it from two different perspectives, and of course, Tom's going further talking about
[01:48:24.360 --> 01:48:29.360] the shadow government, but Tom, you said something very interesting on the break concerning,
[01:48:29.360 --> 01:48:33.800] you want to talk about entitlement mentality, let's look at the ones that are behind all
[01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:37.040] of this.
[01:48:37.040 --> 01:48:43.000] They feel like they're completely entitled to rule over us, kill us, shoot us up with
[01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:47.760] vaccines, social engineering, everything else.
[01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:50.000] They are the authors of the entitlement mentality.
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:56.080] I think they own us, and so of course, they are going to push this ideology off on the
[01:48:56.080 --> 01:49:01.000] common person, the poor person, the person who is vulnerable.
[01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:04.200] It's like, oh no, you're special.
[01:49:04.200 --> 01:49:10.200] You are entitled to this, that, and the other, and it's like, oh, those people over there
[01:49:10.200 --> 01:49:12.920] that have something, oh, they're bad.
[01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:17.560] We need to take from them to give to you.
[01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:22.480] I think that's where Dr. Paul is coming from, because that's where the rubber hits the road.
[01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:30.880] That's the ideology that is being used to brainwash people into backing these ruthless
[01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:31.880] killers.
[01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:36.480] Anyway, it just sounds to me like y'all are saying the same thing.
[01:49:36.480 --> 01:49:43.160] Basically, we have to change the way that people think concerning the role of government,
[01:49:43.160 --> 01:49:48.000] and maybe they just shouldn't have so much control in our lives in the first place.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:50.960] Let me step in here.
[01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:57.360] I think it's kind of pompous of us to think that we can change how people think.
[01:49:57.360 --> 01:50:06.040] What we need to do is find a way to frame what's really going on in a way that reasonable
[01:50:06.040 --> 01:50:07.960] people can wrap their head around.
[01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:10.520] Well, that is changing the way that people think.
[01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:12.200] I disagree.
[01:50:12.200 --> 01:50:16.260] I think we should just help people see what's right in front of them, and then let them
[01:50:16.260 --> 01:50:22.360] use their own horse sense and common sense to then understand it without the lies, without
[01:50:22.360 --> 01:50:26.720] the veil, without the sleight of hand.
[01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:31.320] You got the three card Monte here in New York City.
[01:50:31.320 --> 01:50:33.720] It's the whole thing is a setup.
[01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:35.480] That guy didn't really win any money.
[01:50:35.480 --> 01:50:40.080] He's just being seen to win money so that you'll lose yours.
[01:50:40.080 --> 01:50:43.480] That's what we're talking about when we're talking about changing the way people think.
[01:50:43.480 --> 01:50:46.120] I'm talking about changing the way people see.
[01:50:46.120 --> 01:50:51.000] Well, when you change the way people see, then it changes the way that people think
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:52.000] to get them to recognize reality.
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.840] I don't want people to think differently about something that they still can't see.
[01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:56.840] Exactly.
[01:50:56.840 --> 01:50:57.840] Exactly.
[01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:06.000] I'm going to what everybody seemed to have missed, especially the Clinton clamp missed
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.120] in this election.
[01:51:08.120 --> 01:51:13.280] You can trust us, the ordinary people, to make good decisions.
[01:51:13.280 --> 01:51:16.520] We get good information, we can make good decisions.
[01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:18.100] There you go.
[01:51:18.100 --> 01:51:21.560] Giving us good information, you don't have to change the way we think.
[01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:24.680] Give us good information that we can wrap our head around.
[01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:27.580] We'll take care of our own thinking.
[01:51:27.580 --> 01:51:34.280] My early failure with my audience is I didn't respect them enough.
[01:51:34.280 --> 01:51:38.800] I thought I had to spoon feed them a tiny piece at a time.
[01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:44.480] When I did that four hour show on due process and didn't worry about leaving everybody behind,
[01:51:44.480 --> 01:51:46.320] I just marched through the codes.
[01:51:46.320 --> 01:51:51.080] I got more positive feedback on that than any show I ever did.
[01:51:51.080 --> 01:51:55.400] After that show, I said to myself, I am ashamed.
[01:51:55.400 --> 01:52:01.640] I tried to spoon feed a little at a time and my audience wanted the whole pie and I didn't
[01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:04.280] trust them enough to give it to them.
[01:52:04.280 --> 01:52:10.880] Knowledge is power, not guns, not money, not this, not that, and the other thing, knowledge.
[01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:16.040] In my school of thought, I don't want people acting without knowledge.
[01:52:16.040 --> 01:52:18.280] I use the analogy all the time.
[01:52:18.280 --> 01:52:22.760] They come up on an accident scene on the road, the person's lying there on the hot sun on
[01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:27.400] the tarmac and they're bleeding and oh my gosh, the ambulance won't be here for a few
[01:52:27.400 --> 01:52:28.400] minutes.
[01:52:28.400 --> 01:52:32.520] At least let me get them out of the hot sun and under that tree in the shade and you drag
[01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:36.280] them over there, you meant well, all right, but you just killed them because the broken
[01:52:36.280 --> 01:52:40.880] rib punctured their lung because you didn't know what you were doing.
[01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:42.040] Knowledge is what depends.
[01:52:42.040 --> 01:52:47.320] That's why we, correct me if I'm wrong, friends, are in the alternative media in the first
[01:52:47.320 --> 01:52:53.200] place because the official media is all about obfuscating knowledge and making you think
[01:52:53.200 --> 01:52:59.280] oops, it's a failure, you know, despite the best intentions, we got it wrong, you know,
[01:52:59.280 --> 01:53:01.520] no, it is deliberate.
[01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:05.920] It's deliberate and when you can start to see that, now you're armed with the truth.
[01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:13.600] I go on to say that the last time the oligarchy, you know, was under serious threat, okay,
[01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:18.160] there's the depression, they caused too much harm and they were fine because they do this
[01:53:18.160 --> 01:53:19.160] all the time.
[01:53:19.160 --> 01:53:23.760] But there was Soviet communism, there was this newfangled thing and they weren't having
[01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:29.760] a depression over there in the 30s, okay, and they got scared, uh-oh, the people are
[01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:34.680] gonna rebel, they're gonna cut our heads off, let's throw them a bone, they created the
[01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:37.960] vaunted American middle class.
[01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:41.560] Now there's no more Soviet communism, they're taking it all back.
[01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:47.040] And finally today with Donald Trump, the people woke up and said, wait a minute, enough is
[01:53:47.040 --> 01:53:48.040] enough.
[01:53:48.040 --> 01:53:53.400] We're back at the same moment we were at in the red 30s when the oligarchy was faced with
[01:53:53.400 --> 01:53:58.280] a decision, are we fight or flight, okay, are we gonna crush the people and put them
[01:53:58.280 --> 01:54:01.200] all the way back into being serfs again?
[01:54:01.200 --> 01:54:05.680] That's why they've been arming the police or are we gonna have to throw them a bone?
[01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:09.500] Have we taken enough and now we gotta give some back?
[01:54:09.500 --> 01:54:10.880] That's where we're at right now.
[01:54:10.880 --> 01:54:17.080] The problem with arming the police is the public has armed themselves to a greater degree.
[01:54:17.080 --> 01:54:20.200] So that's not a very viable option.
[01:54:20.200 --> 01:54:23.360] That's why I want to take the guns away and that's why they've got the liberals in New
[01:54:23.360 --> 01:54:29.840] York not understanding that, guns, guns, I used to see the arguments I get with the people
[01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:31.340] in here.
[01:54:31.340 --> 01:54:38.560] There's a new movie out, Come Hell or High Water, and they're in a town called Post Texas,
[01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:42.360] near where my father-in-law was from, Dear Coleman, and these two guys go in and they're
[01:54:42.360 --> 01:54:47.640] robbing the bank and one of the customers on the floor dials out that the bank is being
[01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:48.640] robbed.
[01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:49.640] I saw that coming.
[01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:53.400] They step out of the bank and they fire a fire.
[01:54:53.400 --> 01:54:59.240] There's a whole line of pickups and everybody's firing on them.
[01:54:59.240 --> 01:55:00.880] That's what happens.
[01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:08.960] That was the best bank robbing scene that I've seen since the Coen Brothers movie Raising
[01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:10.520] Arizona.
[01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:16.960] When they go into that bank and they go, all right, hayseeds, freeze.
[01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:19.280] And then it's, all right, hit the floor.
[01:55:19.280 --> 01:55:24.760] And the old guy says, well, and if I hit the floor, I ain't exactly freezing, am I?
[01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:31.320] And if I freeze, I can't hit the floor, which is it?
[01:55:31.320 --> 01:55:32.320] That was a great movie.
[01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:34.320] And the guy says, Gale, what are you telling everybody?
[01:55:34.320 --> 01:55:38.600] He says, I told you, don't be using our real names when we're on a job.
[01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:42.320] I said, oh yeah, oh yeah, we's using code names.
[01:55:42.320 --> 01:55:46.000] You got that, hayseeds?
[01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:52.600] Well, this was an indication of what happens in an armed society.
[01:55:52.600 --> 01:55:56.760] They went into this place with weapons as an advantage and when they stepped out the
[01:55:56.760 --> 01:56:00.740] door, these weren't cops out here.
[01:56:00.740 --> 01:56:08.160] These were, everybody on the street had a gun and they were all pointing at these guys.
[01:56:08.160 --> 01:56:13.480] I'm not too concerned about, especially the American military taking over this country.
[01:56:13.480 --> 01:56:15.200] You can't get us to do that.
[01:56:15.200 --> 01:56:16.200] You were in the military.
[01:56:16.200 --> 01:56:17.200] I was in the military.
[01:56:17.200 --> 01:56:22.040] I know how to break that M16, but let me tell you, I'll less you all think listening that
[01:56:22.040 --> 01:56:25.280] this is just a rural phenomenon, it is not.
[01:56:25.280 --> 01:56:31.840] I live in Brooklyn, the next district over is Carroll Gardens and it is where John Gotti
[01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:36.360] comes from and there's just a bunch of retired mafia hitmen that live there and they all
[01:56:36.360 --> 01:56:37.360] have guns.
[01:56:37.360 --> 01:56:38.360] And guess what?
[01:56:38.360 --> 01:56:42.800] They don't even bother having locks on their doors in Brooklyn.
[01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:54.760] Come on in guys, but your idea, your warning for us of how to look at our government, I
[01:56:54.760 --> 01:56:57.960] think is absolutely appropriate.
[01:56:57.960 --> 01:57:04.560] It's a way to guard us, to allow us to guard the door to our minds.
[01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:09.560] Stop listening to the trash they're telling us and look behind the curtain.
[01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.360] What is the overall effect of what's going on here?
[01:57:12.360 --> 01:57:20.320] It's very simple, government is not a failure or a success.
[01:57:20.320 --> 01:57:22.680] It just does what it is told.
[01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:25.920] And if the people don't tell it what to do, the money will.
[01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:31.080] And the money not only tells the government what to do, but it also, it entrances the
[01:57:31.080 --> 01:57:35.920] people with iPhones and iPods and TV shows so that they don't pay attention because they
[01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:39.000] assume government is out for them and it's not.
[01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:45.480] Okay, so Tom, so how do we get through to the person that thinks that government is
[01:57:45.480 --> 01:57:49.000] great because they're given them a handout and an iPhone?
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.160] How do we change their minds?
[01:57:51.160 --> 01:57:55.240] Well, I think the music's playing, it's the time for another show, I guess.
[01:57:55.240 --> 01:58:00.560] But you know, the fact is until they hurt, you're not going to get very far.
[01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:05.240] But now we're reaching critical mass and more and more and more people are hurting.
[01:58:05.240 --> 01:58:08.240] And then you say, why do you think you're hurting?
[01:58:08.240 --> 01:58:09.240] Is this an accident?
[01:58:09.240 --> 01:58:13.800] No, there's more money now than ever before, but it's all up at the top.
[01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:17.200] So they're going to have to hurt even though they're getting a government handout in order
[01:58:17.200 --> 01:58:18.200] to change their mind.
[01:58:18.200 --> 01:58:20.880] Oh, there's not enough government handouts going out around.
[01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:24.600] I mean, there's people that, you know, the former middle class isn't getting that much
[01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:25.600] handouts now.
[01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:28.600] You know, that was something for the lower classes, I think.
[01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:33.840] But no, they don't want handouts, they just want to take your guns away and roll it back
[01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:34.840] to serfdom.
[01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:39.240] All right, well, on that note, Tom, thank you very much for sticking with us the whole
[01:58:39.240 --> 01:58:40.240] show.
[01:58:40.240 --> 01:58:42.360] We sure have enjoyed it and appreciate you being here.
[01:58:42.360 --> 01:58:45.800] Folks, we'll be back tomorrow night with a four hour info marathon.
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