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[02:53.040 --> 03:18.040] This has been Rick Roady with your Bowdown for August 31, 2016.
[03:18.040 --> 03:24.440] We are back, Randy Kelton with our radio and we're talking to Colleen in New York.
[03:24.440 --> 03:32.120] And yeah, when we have a number of actors, this is a probate issue where the parents
[03:32.120 --> 03:34.760] died and then you have the heirs.
[03:34.760 --> 03:42.680] And Colleen, when I read your email I was really pleased because it sounds like everybody
[03:42.680 --> 03:49.240] in the family is working together and there's no real infighting.
[03:49.240 --> 03:52.480] That's nice to see.
[03:52.480 --> 03:59.700] Because I come across so many instances where something like this just sets kids at one
[03:59.700 --> 04:02.960] another's throats over inheritance.
[04:02.960 --> 04:10.960] I told my brothers and sisters that my mother's 93 when she passes.
[04:10.960 --> 04:16.800] The only thing that I want is the flag that came off my brother's grave.
[04:16.800 --> 04:19.440] You guys can have everything else.
[04:19.440 --> 04:27.680] There is absolutely no chance I will have any hard feelings over anything that she had.
[04:27.680 --> 04:32.920] It would break her heart if her kids got at odds with each other over that.
[04:32.920 --> 04:36.720] And I was real pleased with your email in that regard.
[04:36.720 --> 04:41.520] Thank you.
[04:41.520 --> 04:44.200] It sounds like a really mature family.
[04:44.200 --> 04:47.720] Well, we are not perfect, believe me.
[04:47.720 --> 04:53.760] It's just, well, the main goal, you know, well, is to keep our parents on hard earned
[04:53.760 --> 04:57.360] asset which is on our home.
[04:57.360 --> 05:04.160] And it's very difficult with what we're dealing with in terms of the lenders.
[05:04.160 --> 05:13.960] And as far as not wanting to reach an agreement about the property, it's just a lot of, it's
[05:13.960 --> 05:15.440] a very complicated case.
[05:15.440 --> 05:21.760] Like I said, my mother had a lawsuit against them and her case was dropped, was dismissed,
[05:21.760 --> 05:22.760] unfortunately.
[05:22.760 --> 05:29.720] Okay, all I need to see is the suit that she filed.
[05:29.720 --> 05:34.320] And it's probably not going to be important because it was dropped.
[05:34.320 --> 05:38.440] Since it was dropped, there's no res judicata.
[05:38.440 --> 05:40.960] There's no adjudications.
[05:40.960 --> 05:46.080] The one thing I need to make sure of is if there were any motions where the judge made
[05:46.080 --> 05:48.880] specific rulings.
[05:48.880 --> 05:55.320] Once those rulings have been made that determine the rights of the parties, then even if the
[05:55.320 --> 06:02.960] case is dropped, those rulings are still valid and they would go to collateral estoppel.
[06:02.960 --> 06:05.880] But I doubt that I'm going to see any of that.
[06:05.880 --> 06:08.000] No, probably not.
[06:08.000 --> 06:16.800] I was hoping that by the email you would understand that there are a lot of things you can do.
[06:16.800 --> 06:20.440] Wow, I had no idea.
[06:20.440 --> 06:21.440] It was well written.
[06:21.440 --> 06:22.440] I really appreciate it.
[06:22.440 --> 06:27.000] You laid out everything in detail, you laid out everything perfectly of what I, you know.
[06:27.000 --> 06:32.160] Actually, I wasn't speaking to your case at all.
[06:32.160 --> 06:37.680] I was speaking to all of them.
[06:37.680 --> 06:42.320] This is what I constantly find, the same issues.
[06:42.320 --> 06:54.120] And it's based on some strategies these lenders engage themselves in that led to bad outcomes.
[06:54.120 --> 06:58.160] And I practice helping people be the bad outcome.
[06:58.160 --> 07:07.120] I would like to know how I could do that with this current servicer who's trying to take
[07:07.120 --> 07:09.120] my parents home.
[07:09.120 --> 07:10.120] Okay.
[07:10.120 --> 07:14.880] You know, we have people out there who are promoting solutions.
[07:14.880 --> 07:19.160] Oh, we can help you do this, we can help you do that.
[07:19.160 --> 07:26.720] Well, I am reluctant because I've been researching this a long time and there are so many options,
[07:26.720 --> 07:30.480] there's so many things we can do.
[07:30.480 --> 07:37.040] To go out there and say, I can do this for you, that would be irresponsible.
[07:37.040 --> 07:43.080] I'm not going to say, I'm going to tell you there's a whole bunch of stuff I can do.
[07:43.080 --> 07:52.200] But what I want to do is look at your whole case so that I know I can pretty well determine
[07:52.200 --> 07:57.200] what we should do first and then second and third.
[07:57.200 --> 08:06.320] I have a friend that's been in court for six years where his petition is waiting for the
[08:06.320 --> 08:11.440] Supreme Court to accept it or deny it.
[08:11.440 --> 08:17.560] If the California Supreme doesn't pick his case up, there's a good chance they will.
[08:17.560 --> 08:24.040] But if it doesn't, then this case is over.
[08:24.040 --> 08:32.280] But then, this was my garbage suit, this was a suit that said, who the heck are you guys?
[08:32.280 --> 08:34.400] I don't know who you guys are.
[08:34.400 --> 08:40.040] I never entered into contract with you, never entered into contract with your alleged principal.
[08:40.040 --> 08:43.120] Prove up your position.
[08:43.120 --> 08:44.120] Six years.
[08:44.120 --> 08:50.240] That's so hard to believe that they would let that drag on like that.
[08:50.240 --> 08:55.640] Well, you see, he's been living in the house, not paying anything.
[08:55.640 --> 08:56.640] Right.
[08:56.640 --> 08:58.800] Six years.
[08:58.800 --> 09:04.320] And they accelerated the note so everything stops back then.
[09:04.320 --> 09:07.960] They're going to want interest for all this time, we're going to say, you don't get it.
[09:07.960 --> 09:10.840] You hadn't proved up anything.
[09:10.840 --> 09:14.880] So that's just the first thing we do.
[09:14.880 --> 09:23.480] Once I've looked at all the records, I'm relatively certain what I will find.
[09:23.480 --> 09:33.040] I'll find a lender who wrote the original note, went out of business and didn't assign
[09:33.040 --> 09:37.800] the property to someone, didn't assign the mortgage to someone else before they went
[09:37.800 --> 09:38.800] out of business.
[09:38.800 --> 09:41.480] This is what I usually find.
[09:41.480 --> 09:46.080] And that's what Judge Shreck in New York called vampire lenders.
[09:46.080 --> 09:53.520] Because then years later, when the mortgage gets in default, then Merz comes along and
[09:53.520 --> 09:56.040] acts as an agent for that dead guy.
[09:56.040 --> 09:57.040] Right.
[09:57.040 --> 09:58.520] That's what they did.
[09:58.520 --> 10:03.880] Now that dead guy, he had a claim against your property.
[10:03.880 --> 10:11.200] And if he had been a guy and he died, his claim would have went into probate and went
[10:11.200 --> 10:12.200] to his heirs.
[10:12.200 --> 10:16.960] But this guy wasn't a guy, he was a person.
[10:16.960 --> 10:24.240] Under law, a corporation or a legal fiction, a business is a person for the purpose of
[10:24.240 --> 10:26.400] certain rights.
[10:26.400 --> 10:31.920] And that person had certain rights, but that person doesn't get to go to probate.
[10:31.920 --> 10:38.560] If that person has certain rights, and he's fiction to shut down his business, he needs
[10:38.560 --> 10:45.960] to transfer his assets to somebody else if the assets are in the form of a claim.
[10:45.960 --> 10:53.120] Because if he dies, he's abandoned it, he didn't transfer it to anybody else.
[10:53.120 --> 11:01.920] So along comes Merz years later and claims that, oh, this guy directed me to dispose
[11:01.920 --> 11:03.520] of his asset.
[11:03.520 --> 11:05.920] Oh, yeah.
[11:05.920 --> 11:08.840] And how did he get that done?
[11:08.840 --> 11:12.000] We don't exist anymore.
[11:12.000 --> 11:20.080] That's generally the first complaint, the first action we take is, who are you?
[11:20.080 --> 11:25.040] How do you have standing to even talk to me?
[11:25.040 --> 11:31.680] And oh, I'm the holder of the note, oh, you are.
[11:31.680 --> 11:35.960] Never make proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[11:35.960 --> 11:44.720] Don't tell me you're the holder, prove to me by the public record that you are the holder,
[11:44.720 --> 11:46.440] otherwise get lost.
[11:46.440 --> 11:52.480] And Rick has been on this issue for six years.
[11:52.480 --> 11:59.600] So you take the property and lease it out and take your time, guys.
[11:59.600 --> 12:04.600] We're making money here.
[12:04.600 --> 12:12.320] And when they get done with that one, then when the court says, oh, yeah, this is the
[12:12.320 --> 12:21.080] bona fide holder in due course, oh, okay, so you're the guy I've been looking for.
[12:21.080 --> 12:26.280] You're the chump that charged all those fraudulent fees on the HUD one settlement statement.
[12:26.280 --> 12:29.400] I've been looking for you.
[12:29.400 --> 12:32.640] Now you land right on top of them.
[12:32.640 --> 12:35.320] Now you go after them for fraud and theft.
[12:35.320 --> 12:41.080] So the court will focus on, I thought they would just focus on what hasn't been paid,
[12:41.080 --> 12:45.920] which is the default, the reason why the mortgage is in default because it hasn't been paid
[12:45.920 --> 12:46.920] for several years.
[12:46.920 --> 12:52.880] The court will focus on what we tell them to focus on.
[12:52.880 --> 12:54.880] Oh, okay.
[12:54.880 --> 12:59.560] They have to focus on our claims.
[12:59.560 --> 13:06.760] The other side files a petition to foreclose and we file a countersuit against them accusing
[13:06.760 --> 13:07.760] them of fraud.
[13:07.760 --> 13:12.880] Well, first we filed a challenge to their subject matter jurisdiction.
[13:12.880 --> 13:18.480] We claim that this party lacks standing to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction, the
[13:18.480 --> 13:19.480] court.
[13:19.480 --> 13:20.480] That's all right.
[13:20.480 --> 13:22.480] Who the heck are you guys?
[13:22.480 --> 13:27.020] And then when they can't, if the court rules in their favor, which most of the time they
[13:27.020 --> 13:34.620] eventually will, then we say, oh, okay, you're the ones I've been looking for.
[13:34.620 --> 13:42.120] Now you land on them, your first suit didn't ask for anything in return and they win that
[13:42.120 --> 13:43.120] one.
[13:43.120 --> 13:44.120] They think they've won something.
[13:44.120 --> 13:48.320] When they win that one, then you come back and land on them with both feet.
[13:48.320 --> 13:49.320] With what?
[13:49.320 --> 13:50.320] I'm sorry?
[13:50.320 --> 13:58.720] I said, if they win the first suit, then you come back and you land on them big time.
[13:58.720 --> 13:59.720] You sue them.
[13:59.720 --> 14:05.880] I can get you a claim of two to three times the original principle in a fraud claim against
[14:05.880 --> 14:06.880] the lender.
[14:06.880 --> 14:10.080] Say, okay, now let's dance.
[14:10.080 --> 14:11.080] Okay.
[14:11.080 --> 14:15.160] So this thing of securitization, we've got a lot of guys out there that want to go to
[14:15.160 --> 14:16.160] securitization.
[14:16.160 --> 14:25.200] I don't really care about securitization unless I don't have anything else.
[14:25.200 --> 14:30.920] If Wells Fargo was the lender, there never was an assignment and Wells Fargo is doing
[14:30.920 --> 14:34.160] the foreclosure, I don't have much to work with.
[14:34.160 --> 14:39.700] Then I go for securitization, but only then.
[14:39.700 --> 14:45.440] Before that, if I can find that Wells Fargo securitized this note, then I'm going to go
[14:45.440 --> 14:49.080] after them for a contract violation.
[14:49.080 --> 14:55.680] I don't really want to go to securitization because it is such a complex and hard issue
[14:55.680 --> 14:57.800] to prove.
[14:57.800 --> 15:02.480] You got to get the judge to understand what you're talking about.
[15:02.480 --> 15:07.320] It's not that he's dumb or anything, he is busy.
[15:07.320 --> 15:12.800] You go and hear the motion, he's got 40 motions to go through today.
[15:12.800 --> 15:20.560] You give him something that he's got to research and study and denied, that maybe may not be
[15:20.560 --> 15:25.440] right, but the judge is, he's got time constraints.
[15:25.440 --> 15:30.600] So we want to go to the court with the simplest thing we can.
[15:30.600 --> 15:38.040] We can say, the Recreate Settlement Procedures Act required that the lender, when they negotiate
[15:38.040 --> 15:43.360] the beneficial interest in the note to another party, they're required within 30 days to
[15:43.360 --> 15:45.640] give us notice.
[15:45.640 --> 15:53.720] And under Covenant 16 of the contract, both parties agreed to abide by all standing law.
[15:53.720 --> 15:57.000] They violated a law relating to the contract.
[15:57.000 --> 15:58.600] So they repudiated the contract.
[15:58.600 --> 16:04.160] They can't come in now and enforce it after they violated it.
[16:04.160 --> 16:06.600] That's not hard for the judge to wrap his head around.
[16:06.600 --> 16:12.520] Okay, so even if they've had the mortgage for let's say three years, it was transferred
[16:12.520 --> 16:18.920] to them and they've had it for three years, does that give them the right to enforce collateral?
[16:18.920 --> 16:25.800] If they never had standing, if they don't have subject matter jurisdiction, if they
[16:25.800 --> 16:30.440] never got it properly, it never accrues.
[16:30.440 --> 16:33.860] And it has to be in the public record.
[16:33.860 --> 16:37.720] They can only prove it up by the public record, and I'll address that when we come back.
[16:37.720 --> 17:00.440] This is Randy Kelton, New Law Radio, our call-in number 512-646-1984, and we'll be right back.
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[19:05.400 --> 19:18.400] Well, don't let nothing get to you, only the Father can deliver you, but only bad-mind
[19:18.400 --> 19:24.400] people hurt you until they say don't get behind us.
[19:24.400 --> 19:26.400] Norman, my friend.
[19:26.400 --> 19:28.400] Okay, we are back.
[19:28.400 --> 19:31.520] Ready to help you with our radio.
[19:31.520 --> 19:39.160] And again, my whole point here, Coon, is there's a whole lot you can do, and you're not even
[19:39.160 --> 19:41.000] in foreclosure yet.
[19:41.000 --> 19:44.400] So they're just getting ready.
[19:44.400 --> 19:50.320] So you have a lot of time.
[19:50.320 --> 20:00.560] The one thing to be most aware of is they generally prey on people because people are
[20:00.560 --> 20:05.880] living in the property, and they're afraid every day they're going to get evicted.
[20:05.880 --> 20:13.560] With you, you don't have that problem, so they don't have that leverage.
[20:13.560 --> 20:22.920] Before you start, I would want to know what for you would be an equitable outcome.
[20:22.920 --> 20:27.320] And since there are a number of parties, you get them all to sit down and agree what would
[20:27.320 --> 20:30.760] be a win for you.
[20:30.760 --> 20:39.000] Once I know where you're trying to go, then I can look at what factors are available,
[20:39.000 --> 20:46.720] and we will look at a way to bring the bank to the table, the lender to the table, and
[20:46.720 --> 20:48.200] we play let's make a deal.
[20:48.200 --> 20:54.040] Because if we're going to talk, look guys, we're going to keep you in court until you
[20:54.040 --> 20:56.240] get old.
[20:56.240 --> 20:59.640] The first time you write a pleading we don't like, we're going to bargain with you and
[20:59.640 --> 21:05.040] double your lawyer's malpractice insurance, and he's likely to quit immediately.
[21:05.040 --> 21:14.080] Then you're going to have to hire a new lawyer, and that lawyer is going to charge you double.
[21:14.080 --> 21:19.900] We're going to cost you more than the property is worth, because we know how to be the pro
[21:19.900 --> 21:21.400] se from hell.
[21:21.400 --> 21:29.240] We'll file judicial conduct complaints against that judge until he screams bloody murder.
[21:29.240 --> 21:35.680] He can't do anything to us, he can't even mention it to us, but he can certainly grab
[21:35.680 --> 21:44.640] your lawyers by their bar cards and force them to make a deal.
[21:44.640 --> 21:52.960] We determine where you want to wind up, and once we have that, then I look at what tools
[21:52.960 --> 22:00.240] you have to get you where you want to wind up, and then I can plot out a course to get
[22:00.240 --> 22:01.240] you there.
[22:01.240 --> 22:08.160] Okay, so when you say just determine where I would want to wind up, you mean in terms
[22:08.160 --> 22:12.200] of monetary status, or you mean in just in terms of-
[22:12.200 --> 22:14.480] Just whatever you want.
[22:14.480 --> 22:16.760] You want to keep the property, you want to-
[22:16.760 --> 22:17.760] Yes, definitely.
[22:17.760 --> 22:30.000] Okay, then essentially, you don't want a modification, and I read what you said about your lawyer,
[22:30.000 --> 22:32.760] and I absolutely agree with your lawyer.
[22:32.760 --> 22:37.280] Yes, I thought that was the only way to keep it, but she thought it wasn't-
[22:37.280 --> 22:41.360] Well, the lawyer said, they're not telling you everything.
[22:41.360 --> 22:43.080] They weren't, no, they didn't.
[22:43.080 --> 22:47.000] And they're saying, we're not going to give you all of the contract until you sign it,
[22:47.000 --> 22:48.000] so that's nuts.
[22:48.000 --> 22:53.320] Yes, they wanted us to sign for the assumption modification before they release all the guidelines,
[22:53.320 --> 22:58.760] and I thought it was fair because that was the only way that we could keep it, I thought,
[22:58.760 --> 22:59.760] but everyone disagreed.
[22:59.760 --> 23:05.040] The executive disagreed, and my siblings disagreed as well, they didn't want to sign it, and
[23:05.040 --> 23:06.040] I thought it was fair.
[23:06.040 --> 23:07.040] Good for them.
[23:07.040 --> 23:08.040] Good for them.
[23:08.040 --> 23:09.040] And that's encouraging.
[23:09.040 --> 23:15.120] So, there's another way to do this, you mentioned that you tried to get a short sale.
[23:15.120 --> 23:20.120] Yes, we tried to, but they told us it was a none-ons length because we're related to
[23:20.120 --> 23:25.720] the owners of the property, which is my parents and my uncle, who's the executive, so they
[23:25.720 --> 23:27.840] told us we can't do that.
[23:27.840 --> 23:33.120] That was horse manure.
[23:33.120 --> 23:39.240] To put it mildly, that was horse manure, but you don't want a short sale either.
[23:39.240 --> 23:52.000] What you want is a settlement, a settlement has no credit ramifications, and whatever
[23:52.000 --> 24:02.360] you settle for, like if you accrue something in the settlement, then that's based on damage,
[24:02.360 --> 24:03.360] it's not taxable.
[24:03.360 --> 24:06.360] It has all kinds of advantages.
[24:06.360 --> 24:08.720] I didn't know that.
[24:08.720 --> 24:12.800] I thought if we owned it, because I'm not the owner, my parents were, so I thought we
[24:12.800 --> 24:17.360] couldn't go over it so far, because we're not.
[24:17.360 --> 24:26.840] No, no, no, you essentially inherit all of her claims.
[24:26.840 --> 24:33.720] When I help people in Texas, tramparty is legal in Texas.
[24:33.720 --> 24:36.760] You can sell your claim.
[24:36.760 --> 24:42.840] So if people want me to help them in Texas, I just have them write me a quick claim deed.
[24:42.840 --> 24:48.040] Now any claim they have against the property, I can adjudicate.
[24:48.040 --> 24:55.280] It's not legal in New York, but you accrue all of her claims, because the claim she has
[24:55.280 --> 25:02.800] against the lender is an asset that she has, and you inherit that asset.
[25:02.800 --> 25:04.840] You can do anything she could.
[25:04.840 --> 25:13.000] Wow, because I'm not on the, like I'm actually not on the property to my parents, so I just
[25:13.000 --> 25:16.520] assume that I'm a squatter, they wouldn't take, you know.
[25:16.520 --> 25:18.320] No, you're the heir.
[25:18.320 --> 25:21.920] It's yours now, yours and the rest of theirs.
[25:21.920 --> 25:23.960] Oh, wow.
[25:23.960 --> 25:26.440] You could do anything the parent could do.
[25:26.440 --> 25:27.440] Wow.
[25:27.440 --> 25:36.960] So my other question, I don't know if it's appropriate, but it was, like I said, my mom
[25:36.960 --> 25:42.080] filed bankruptcy, but she had passed before she could sign to authorize it.
[25:42.080 --> 25:45.360] So I don't even know if that, I think that debt, of course, is still there.
[25:45.360 --> 25:48.840] Like it's inherited to us as far as owing it.
[25:48.840 --> 25:53.400] No, only, no, no, no, you don't inherit her debts.
[25:53.400 --> 25:59.280] Like she has a credit card or something, you don't inherit any of that.
[25:59.280 --> 26:01.960] You inherit her assets.
[26:01.960 --> 26:09.840] Now, what the other, what they may do is file a claim against the assets, but we got ways
[26:09.840 --> 26:13.120] of handling those guys.
[26:13.120 --> 26:15.840] Debt collectors are trumps.
[26:15.840 --> 26:18.820] They do everything wrong.
[26:18.820 --> 26:24.640] They know they do everything wrong and they don't care because they make a whole lot of
[26:24.640 --> 26:26.800] money doing everything wrong.
[26:26.800 --> 26:27.800] Okay.
[26:27.800 --> 26:34.200] Every once in a while, the pro se from hell comes along and stings them good.
[26:34.200 --> 26:37.880] So, well, cost of doing business.
[26:37.880 --> 26:43.120] We made $200 million doing it wrong and we had to pay out 50 grand.
[26:43.120 --> 26:44.120] No problem.
[26:44.120 --> 26:48.080] That's kind of how it works.
[26:48.080 --> 26:52.200] So we try to help people be their cost of doing business.
[26:52.200 --> 27:00.600] So if they have debts that are trying to be, you're like credit cards are unsecured.
[27:00.600 --> 27:03.600] So those just go away.
[27:03.600 --> 27:08.440] The only thing that doesn't go away are secured debts to properties here.
[27:08.440 --> 27:12.520] So, but we got ways of beating him up big time.
[27:12.520 --> 27:13.520] Right.
[27:13.520 --> 27:19.400] So even if it was filed, like he filed the claim bankruptcy to keep the property.
[27:19.400 --> 27:27.120] So even if it was in that realm, like will it still be looked at as invalid or it won't
[27:27.120 --> 27:28.120] be?
[27:28.120 --> 27:29.120] Yeah.
[27:29.120 --> 27:30.120] The bankruptcy is gone.
[27:30.120 --> 27:34.160] Only you don't inherit her bankruptcy.
[27:34.160 --> 27:39.280] So once she passed, the bankruptcy essentially became null.
[27:39.280 --> 27:41.280] Oh, okay.
[27:41.280 --> 27:48.640] Okay, I just really, when I show my uncle who's the executor, he just sees it as, you
[27:48.640 --> 27:55.280] know, she still owes it no matter what and your parents still owe this mortgage and...
[27:55.280 --> 27:56.960] Let me talk to the executor.
[27:56.960 --> 28:02.440] I'll get his mind changed.
[28:02.440 --> 28:05.280] These guys are lying thieves.
[28:05.280 --> 28:06.960] Yes, they are.
[28:06.960 --> 28:15.600] They put together this scam and it's the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.
[28:15.600 --> 28:17.320] Wow.
[28:17.320 --> 28:19.880] You don't owe them anything.
[28:19.880 --> 28:27.280] You owe it to your neighbors to kick these guys' butts every way from Sunday.
[28:27.280 --> 28:34.080] And I'll explain to him why they want to foreclose, why it's profitable for them to take your
[28:34.080 --> 28:35.640] property away from you.
[28:35.640 --> 28:37.600] And they planned it that way.
[28:37.600 --> 28:40.400] Is that because we haven't made payments in five years?
[28:40.400 --> 28:46.320] Like I'm assuming that's the main reason and the judge won't hear otherwise because we
[28:46.320 --> 28:47.800] haven't made payments.
[28:47.800 --> 28:48.800] No.
[28:48.800 --> 28:54.880] The judge hears the issues brought before him.
[28:54.880 --> 28:58.760] First issue brought, do you bring before the judge, who are these guys?
[28:58.760 --> 29:03.720] I'm not saying there's not a debt here and I'm not saying they don't owe a debt, just
[29:03.720 --> 29:07.120] not to these chumps.
[29:07.120 --> 29:08.120] I pay these guys.
[29:08.120 --> 29:12.440] I'm going to have somebody next week come and try to collect again.
[29:12.440 --> 29:15.920] And if I paid the wrong people, I'm going to have to pay again.
[29:15.920 --> 29:16.920] Right.
[29:16.920 --> 29:18.480] That's what happened to my parents.
[29:18.480 --> 29:21.120] They were paying all these different lenders.
[29:21.120 --> 29:25.480] They thought it was IndyMac and they were paying one West Bank and they were paying
[29:25.480 --> 29:26.480] another.
[29:26.480 --> 29:29.720] Now it's Aquan that has the notes, so to say.
[29:29.720 --> 29:30.720] This is how we will.
[29:30.720 --> 29:31.720] These are the issues.
[29:31.720 --> 29:35.600] We've got lots of issues.
[29:35.600 --> 29:36.600] The judge has to hear it.
[29:36.600 --> 29:37.600] Hang on.
[29:37.600 --> 29:38.600] About to go to break.
[29:38.600 --> 29:45.480] Randy Kelton, the rule of our radio, our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[29:45.480 --> 29:46.480] Give us a call.
[29:46.480 --> 29:51.840] We've got one empty slot on the board and we've got an hour and a half, so we'll get
[29:51.840 --> 29:52.840] to everybody.
[29:52.840 --> 29:56.840] We'll be right back.
[29:56.840 --> 30:02.040] Be careful what you tweet.
[30:02.040 --> 30:03.960] Just ask Jonathan Hoster.
[30:03.960 --> 30:08.200] His complaint about a local grocery store sparked a national social media firestorm
[30:08.200 --> 30:09.440] and nearly cost his job.
[30:09.440 --> 30:10.440] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[30:45.720 --> 30:50.160] When Jonathan Hoster found the local Price Chopper supermarket under-stocked, he vented
[30:50.160 --> 30:52.920] his frustrations on Twitter, the social media website.
[30:52.920 --> 30:58.360] But when Price Chopper PR employee Amira Setawayu read the tweet, she demanded that Hoster's
[30:58.360 --> 31:03.400] employer Syracuse University discipline him for daring to criticize her store.
[31:03.400 --> 31:04.680] From there it was all downhill.
[31:04.680 --> 31:09.920] A social media professor launched blog entries criticizing the store's bizarre response.
[31:09.920 --> 31:13.760] Bloggers debated whether head should roll and protests were planned at Price Chopper's
[31:13.760 --> 31:14.760] stores.
[31:14.760 --> 31:18.200] Price Chopper finally apologized and the disaster died down, but the outcome could have been
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[31:19.560 --> 31:23.320] Hoster could have lost his job and I'm wondering how Setawayu kept hers.
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[33:17.760 --> 33:18.760] We are back.
[33:18.760 --> 33:23.320] Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio and we're talking to Colleen from New York.
[33:23.320 --> 33:29.440] So Colleen, do you have any specific questions that I have not addressed?
[33:29.440 --> 33:31.480] Yes, I do.
[33:31.480 --> 33:41.080] So my question is, because currently we were just lifted from a stay from the bank.
[33:41.080 --> 33:47.920] So my question is, when we start receiving notices, like a notice of acceleration, and
[33:47.920 --> 33:53.000] just start the process, how would I move forward?
[33:53.000 --> 33:54.000] Okay.
[33:54.000 --> 33:56.040] Have you received a notice of acceleration?
[33:56.040 --> 33:57.040] No.
[33:57.040 --> 33:58.040] Okay.
[33:58.040 --> 34:00.960] As soon as you get it, let me know.
[34:00.960 --> 34:01.960] Okay.
[34:01.960 --> 34:08.040] And send me your hard one settlement statement, no truth in the next statement.
[34:08.040 --> 34:14.760] And I'll do a little creative accounting and I will send you back a qualified written
[34:14.760 --> 34:15.760] request.
[34:15.760 --> 34:24.520] Now what a qualified written request is, it's under 15 U.S. Code 1692, Faraday Collections
[34:24.520 --> 34:26.600] Practices Act.
[34:26.600 --> 34:27.600] I'm sorry.
[34:27.600 --> 34:28.600] It's not under that.
[34:28.600 --> 34:32.560] It's under Regal State Settlement Procedures Act.
[34:32.560 --> 34:40.880] A qualified written request is a claim of an accounting error and a request that the
[34:40.880 --> 34:44.120] servicer correct the error.
[34:44.120 --> 34:49.240] Okay, here's the error.
[34:49.240 --> 34:55.640] When you sit down at closing, I can't ask your mother because she's not there, but I
[34:55.640 --> 34:56.640] know what her answer would be.
[34:56.640 --> 34:57.640] Yes, this is unfortunate.
[34:57.640 --> 34:58.640] I apologize.
[34:58.640 --> 34:59.640] Okay.
[34:59.640 --> 35:04.680] When you sit down at closing, they put this hard one settlement statement in front of
[35:04.680 --> 35:11.760] you and it lists all of these fees they charge you at closing.
[35:11.760 --> 35:21.240] So in the closing documentation, are there any invoices or any records to show that the
[35:21.240 --> 35:29.320] fees which were charged were not otherwise forbidden to be charged by law, that the fees
[35:29.320 --> 35:38.800] were for services actually rendered, that the amounts charged were reasonable, and that
[35:38.800 --> 35:45.600] the services were necessary, and that the lender did not take an undisclosed markup
[35:45.600 --> 35:47.080] on the amounts charged?
[35:47.080 --> 35:53.120] Now, this is all right out of the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act.
[35:53.120 --> 35:58.080] And they never provide any documentation to validate the fees.
[35:58.080 --> 35:59.880] They just put these fees on there.
[35:59.880 --> 36:02.480] So as far as you know, they're all bogus.
[36:02.480 --> 36:03.960] They just made them up.
[36:03.960 --> 36:11.720] So they don't have a track of how the fees came about as far as I know.
[36:11.720 --> 36:12.720] Nada.
[36:12.720 --> 36:13.720] Nothing.
[36:13.720 --> 36:20.680] Now, most of the fees are valid, but there are always two or three of them on there that
[36:20.680 --> 36:21.680] are not.
[36:21.680 --> 36:28.480] A document preparation fee, warehouse fee, there's two or three others that just stand
[36:28.480 --> 36:32.400] out and they're always two or three, 400 bucks apiece.
[36:32.400 --> 36:36.200] So we claim they're all bogus.
[36:36.200 --> 36:43.360] And I take the full amount on line 1400 of the Hudwin Settlement Statement.
[36:43.360 --> 36:54.480] Actually you have column C and column D. Column C is what the purchaser pays.
[36:54.480 --> 36:56.600] Column D is what the seller pays.
[36:56.600 --> 36:58.320] Well, we don't care.
[36:58.320 --> 37:00.640] The purchaser pays everything.
[37:00.640 --> 37:03.120] So we add both columns together.
[37:03.120 --> 37:04.120] I get a number.
[37:04.120 --> 37:10.840] Then I take a spreadsheet and I take that number and I drop it in the spreadsheet as
[37:10.840 --> 37:15.720] an overpayment on the first payment.
[37:15.720 --> 37:21.400] We maintain that this was an extra unwarranted charge.
[37:21.400 --> 37:29.560] So we subtract it from the principal on the first payment and then we amortize the note.
[37:29.560 --> 37:36.120] The first one I did, you heard the commercial just a moment ago, the last commercial was
[37:36.120 --> 37:37.120] Steve Skidmore.
[37:37.120 --> 37:39.920] Steve Skidmore was the first one I did it for.
[37:39.920 --> 37:40.920] He was a co-host.
[37:40.920 --> 37:50.840] He was a host on the radio network and he had a $116,000 note at 6%.
[37:50.840 --> 37:54.760] He had $12,000 in closing cost.
[37:54.760 --> 38:01.320] I deducted $12,000 from the principal on the first payment and ran out his note.
[38:01.320 --> 38:06.880] His note went to zero, a payment to $240,000.
[38:06.880 --> 38:13.440] Had he paid that note off, according to my calculations, he would have overpaid the note
[38:13.440 --> 38:16.920] by $50,043 in change.
[38:16.920 --> 38:18.880] Oh boy.
[38:18.880 --> 38:19.880] Wow.
[38:19.880 --> 38:26.560] Okay, now it's only five years old, so he hadn't paid that much.
[38:26.560 --> 38:34.120] However, when you make a claim of fraud, you do not claim the amount you were actually
[38:34.120 --> 38:36.560] defrauded of.
[38:36.560 --> 38:43.920] You claim the amount the perpetrator intended to defraud you of, which in this case was
[38:43.920 --> 38:47.920] 50 grand, but you don't sue for that amount.
[38:47.920 --> 38:50.400] You sue for triple.
[38:50.400 --> 39:00.600] First calculation, I get a claim against the lender in excess of the original principal.
[39:00.600 --> 39:03.280] Now let's dance, guys.
[39:03.280 --> 39:08.680] And we tell them, if you approve up one of these fees, then we'll deduct it from the
[39:08.680 --> 39:09.680] calculation.
[39:09.680 --> 39:13.440] Now we've helped about 350 people file suits with this in it.
[39:13.440 --> 39:19.640] I've helped over 600 people file federal suits, but about half of them had this in it.
[39:19.640 --> 39:24.240] You got any idea how many fees the bank proved up?
[39:24.240 --> 39:26.240] It's an easy number.
[39:26.240 --> 39:27.240] Wow.
[39:27.240 --> 39:31.320] So that sounds like it's tough.
[39:31.320 --> 39:35.680] How many of those fees do you think they proved up?
[39:35.680 --> 39:37.880] Wow.
[39:37.880 --> 39:43.280] In over 300 lawsuits, zero.
[39:43.280 --> 39:45.400] They never proved up a single one.
[39:45.400 --> 39:54.200] And there's a reason they never proved up a single one, because if they prove up one
[39:54.200 --> 40:00.960] and don't prove up another, that creates the adverse inference that the one they didn't
[40:00.960 --> 40:06.680] prove up was exactly what we said it was, fraudulent.
[40:06.680 --> 40:10.720] And they always have fraudulent fees on there.
[40:10.720 --> 40:15.320] So this particular suit, they really don't like.
[40:15.320 --> 40:22.320] So what we'll do is make up a qualified written request claiming all these fees is bogus,
[40:22.320 --> 40:30.120] and that they're overcharging us, and we will have an amount to the penny.
[40:30.120 --> 40:37.280] It's one thing to go in there with a large claim, ask them for $2 billion.
[40:37.280 --> 40:40.160] And the court says, well, how did you get that number?
[40:40.160 --> 40:43.280] We're going to go in there with a large claim, and the court's going to say, how did you
[40:43.280 --> 40:44.280] get that number?
[40:44.280 --> 40:45.440] And we'll say, right here.
[40:45.440 --> 40:48.840] This is exactly how we got that number to the penny.
[40:48.840 --> 40:52.880] And the other guy's going to say, oh, well, I don't like the way you calculated that.
[40:52.880 --> 40:55.380] So what?
[40:55.380 --> 41:03.520] At the end of the day, there's only one number that the jury's going to remember.
[41:03.520 --> 41:08.200] And that's the one you walked in the door with.
[41:08.200 --> 41:11.800] And that's the one you get to negotiate from.
[41:11.800 --> 41:18.240] So also, if I get the note and the truth in lending statement, most of the time, there's
[41:18.240 --> 41:25.760] another rather complex calculation I can do and get you even more of a claim.
[41:25.760 --> 41:28.560] So we get this big claim against the lender.
[41:28.560 --> 41:36.400] We send them the qualified written request, and it starts out with a debt validation,
[41:36.400 --> 41:43.320] demand that they validate the debt, and then it goes to a qualified written request.
[41:43.320 --> 41:47.160] And then it goes to 15 pages of trash.
[41:47.160 --> 41:51.240] If you look on the internet, you'll find a lot of qualified written requests people have
[41:51.240 --> 41:56.480] posted, and most of those have been posted by somebody who doesn't know what a qualified
[41:56.480 --> 41:59.000] written request is.
[41:59.000 --> 42:05.640] All of these things are requests for discovery, or they don't have to respond to that nonsense.
[42:05.640 --> 42:10.120] So we put it all in there.
[42:10.120 --> 42:14.120] Because the lawyer's going to read the debt validation, he's going to read the qualified
[42:14.120 --> 42:19.280] written request, and he's going to see all this discovery, this is trash, this is trash,
[42:19.280 --> 42:20.280] this is trash.
[42:20.280 --> 42:23.000] He's not going to read that.
[42:23.000 --> 42:27.920] And we've never had one read the last paragraph.
[42:27.920 --> 42:33.720] It says, if you fail to properly validate this debt within the statutory time limit,
[42:33.720 --> 42:38.720] you may construe this as a notice of rescission.
[42:38.720 --> 42:42.440] They never read it.
[42:42.440 --> 42:53.120] So as soon as you get a debt validation, I mean, a notice of acceleration, we're going
[42:53.120 --> 42:57.080] to do something that hasn't been adjudicated in the courts yet.
[42:57.080 --> 42:58.080] I'm nervous.
[42:58.080 --> 43:09.040] Okay, you have a right to rescind the mortgage within three days, just buyer's remorse for
[43:09.040 --> 43:10.040] no reason.
[43:10.040 --> 43:17.000] Within three years, if they fail to give you proper notice of your right to rescind.
[43:17.000 --> 43:23.520] And in 2014, the Supreme Court heard Jasinowski case.
[43:23.520 --> 43:31.080] Mr. Jasinowski filed a notice of rescission on the very last day.
[43:31.080 --> 43:38.680] And they claimed that at closing, the lender gave them a notice that they had the right
[43:38.680 --> 43:41.040] to rescind.
[43:41.040 --> 43:48.400] But there were two names on the mortgage and they only gave one notice.
[43:48.400 --> 43:50.600] And that was enough.
[43:50.600 --> 43:57.360] They took it all the way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court landed on the banks.
[43:57.360 --> 44:21.240] We're going to be right back here, going to break.
[44:21.240 --> 44:48.680] We're going to be right back.
[44:51.240 --> 45:21.200] We're going to be right back.
[45:21.200 --> 45:44.160] We're going to be right back.
[45:44.160 --> 46:09.720] We're going to be right back.
[46:09.720 --> 46:23.440] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking about Jasinowski.
[46:23.440 --> 46:31.120] The Supreme Court, in a unanimous decision, dropped the sky on the banks.
[46:31.120 --> 46:39.960] I could not believe that Wells Fargo actually let this case get to the Supreme.
[46:39.960 --> 46:43.880] It's absolutely insane.
[46:43.880 --> 46:53.400] What they said was, is when the Jasinowskis filed the notice of rescission, rescission
[46:53.400 --> 46:56.480] was accomplished.
[46:56.480 --> 47:00.920] When you file a notice of rescission, it's not a request.
[47:00.920 --> 47:05.120] You have the power to rescind.
[47:05.120 --> 47:07.640] Okay.
[47:07.640 --> 47:11.120] Your issue is, is you're already beyond the three-year time limit.
[47:11.120 --> 47:13.480] Yes, unfortunately.
[47:13.480 --> 47:27.880] However, the three, 16, 15 U.S. Code 1635F is the one that gives you three years.
[47:27.880 --> 47:42.560] 1635I says that after the initiation of foreclosure, if you can show more than $35 in unnoticed
[47:42.560 --> 47:51.480] fees, the right to rescind is reinvigorated, and this one has no statute of limitations
[47:51.480 --> 47:52.480] on it.
[47:52.480 --> 47:59.800] As soon as you get the notice of acceleration, you hit them with this qualified written request
[47:59.800 --> 48:06.880] that's got the sneaky rescission in the bottom of it, and they never responded.
[48:06.880 --> 48:17.040] What the care code says is the bank has 20 days to either rescind the mortgage and take
[48:17.040 --> 48:23.040] possession of the property or file an opposition in the courts.
[48:23.040 --> 48:31.160] They never read this paragraph, so they don't do it, and now you've got them under default.
[48:31.160 --> 48:34.840] They're going to say, well, the rescission was improper.
[48:34.840 --> 48:36.400] I'm sorry, Bubba.
[48:36.400 --> 48:40.000] You had 20 days to do that.
[48:40.000 --> 48:46.720] That 20 days has passed, and that's called laches.
[48:46.720 --> 48:52.680] Laches is a legal concept that goes to sitting on your rights.
[48:52.680 --> 48:54.440] You had the right to take action.
[48:54.440 --> 48:58.520] You didn't bother, so you waived those rights.
[48:58.520 --> 48:59.520] Really?
[48:59.520 --> 49:05.480] There's a certain quality for the qualified.
[49:05.480 --> 49:14.560] We have never had a ruling on 1635I that I can find.
[49:14.560 --> 49:24.360] What we do is we file a 28 U.S. Code 2201, petition for declaratory judgment, and ask
[49:24.360 --> 49:33.800] the court to declare the rights of the parties, and we state to the court that there is no
[49:33.800 --> 49:43.200] direction from the court on the issue of rescission after initiation of foreclosure.
[49:43.200 --> 49:50.840] We have no case law, so it's appropriate to ask the court to give us direction by stipulating
[49:50.840 --> 49:55.560] the rights of the parties.
[49:55.560 --> 50:02.760] The good thing about this one is it's not subject to a Rule 12B6 motion to dismiss for
[50:02.760 --> 50:06.520] failure to state a claim of which recovery can be had.
[50:06.520 --> 50:16.880] It's Ashcroft-Tombly and Iqbal something or other.
[50:16.880 --> 50:17.880] There's two cases.
[50:17.880 --> 50:18.880] They changed everything.
[50:18.880 --> 50:24.240] They changed the pleading standards, so any time you file a federal suit, the other side
[50:24.240 --> 50:29.440] is going to file a Rule 12 motion for failure to state a claim of which recovery can be
[50:29.440 --> 50:30.440] had.
[50:30.440 --> 50:33.400] Well, we're not asking for recovery.
[50:33.400 --> 50:40.800] We're filing a strictly a declaratory judgment suit.
[50:40.800 --> 50:42.000] Declare the rights of the parties.
[50:42.000 --> 50:43.920] We're not asking for any recovery at all.
[50:43.920 --> 50:53.280] It's not subject to 12B6, but it gets us to discovery, and that's the last thing the bank
[50:53.280 --> 50:54.880] wants to happen.
[50:54.880 --> 51:05.560] They do not want discovery because then you'll discover that they have no standing.
[51:05.560 --> 51:08.320] That's just a second suit.
[51:08.320 --> 51:17.120] We hadn't got to receive to securitization and there's a number of other issues we can
[51:17.120 --> 51:18.120] go to.
[51:18.120 --> 51:24.600] That would probably get us 12 years.
[51:24.600 --> 51:30.320] So you basically would have to look at the... You said the county record of documents,
[51:30.320 --> 51:31.320] right?
[51:31.320 --> 51:32.320] Yes.
[51:32.320 --> 51:35.760] So do you need that information again?
[51:35.760 --> 51:39.360] I know I sent it, but I just want to make sure that you...
[51:39.360 --> 51:40.360] I will look.
[51:40.360 --> 51:43.360] I don't remember seeing those documents.
[51:43.360 --> 51:51.440] I need to be sure that I have everything that's been filed because I need to know for certain
[51:51.440 --> 51:53.440] what hasn't been filed.
[51:53.440 --> 51:59.880] Okay, so you basically need their address, right, and their block number and the lot
[51:59.880 --> 52:01.480] number of the property.
[52:01.480 --> 52:07.040] Yeah, I need that, but I also need all of the documents that's been filed in the public
[52:07.040 --> 52:08.040] record.
[52:08.040 --> 52:13.080] Oh, okay, because I don't know how I would find that information.
[52:13.080 --> 52:18.360] You go to the clerk and you tell the clerk, you go to the registrar of deeds and say,
[52:18.360 --> 52:25.440] look, I'm computer intolerant, I don't understand these newfangled things, can you do a search
[52:25.440 --> 52:31.680] on this property and give me a list of what you find so I can go look it up?
[52:31.680 --> 52:33.920] And they'll always do that for you.
[52:33.920 --> 52:38.680] And when you get that list, keep it, don't let anything happen to it.
[52:38.680 --> 52:45.920] Because if the clerk can't find it, it doesn't exist as far as you're concerned.
[52:45.920 --> 52:48.960] And then everything that's on that list, I need a copy of.
[52:48.960 --> 52:55.160] Okay, it would be better if I have the copy in electronic format.
[52:55.160 --> 52:58.200] Send that to me and I'll do an evaluation.
[52:58.200 --> 53:01.200] Oh, okay, okay.
[53:01.200 --> 53:07.280] The reason why I asked is because I thought if I just sent my address, because I'm not
[53:07.280 --> 53:12.640] able to open up, it's a certain JavaScript or something like that, I'm not able to open
[53:12.640 --> 53:17.160] up the actual mortgage documents of my parents.
[53:17.160 --> 53:23.760] So I thought if I send in the lot number and the block number and the address of my parents'
[53:23.760 --> 53:29.240] property of the state, they are in for the search systems.
[53:29.240 --> 53:34.080] Okay, I can't go to the registrar of New York.
[53:34.080 --> 53:41.680] They might be online, but you really need the clerk to do that search for you.
[53:41.680 --> 53:46.240] Because if the clerk can't find it, then even if it's filed, you can claim it's not properly
[53:46.240 --> 53:47.240] filed.
[53:47.240 --> 53:48.240] Okay.
[53:48.240 --> 53:55.880] And this is, just to be certain, it's-
[53:55.880 --> 53:59.600] I have to have these documents.
[53:59.600 --> 54:06.400] Any claim against real property has to be filed with the county registrar of deeds.
[54:06.400 --> 54:10.240] I need to know everything that has been filed with the registrar.
[54:10.240 --> 54:15.440] From the beginning, from when they- of the property, purchase of the property-
[54:15.440 --> 54:16.440] No.
[54:16.440 --> 54:22.320] From the date your mother received a warranty deed.
[54:22.320 --> 54:25.320] Warranty deed.
[54:25.320 --> 54:28.320] Right.
[54:28.320 --> 54:33.760] When you say warranty deed, you mean just the deed on the property, the regular deed
[54:33.760 --> 54:34.760] on the property?
[54:34.760 --> 54:35.760] Yes.
[54:35.760 --> 54:40.400] When they originally deeded the property over to your mother.
[54:40.400 --> 54:41.400] Okay.
[54:41.400 --> 54:45.160] Yeah, we definitely have all of that information.
[54:45.160 --> 54:47.960] We have everything.
[54:47.960 --> 54:49.840] That won't be in the closing documents.
[54:49.840 --> 54:57.240] Oh, not- oh, the closing, oh, that's- No, the only thing I need from the closing documents
[54:57.240 --> 55:01.520] are HUD 1, note, truth in the statement.
[55:01.520 --> 55:02.520] Okay.
[55:02.520 --> 55:07.240] And so how would I find the HUD 1 settlement statement?
[55:07.240 --> 55:08.240] It's in there.
[55:08.240 --> 55:10.280] It'll say it on the top.
[55:10.280 --> 55:15.480] It's a legal-sized document and it's got a- it looks like a spreadsheet.
[55:15.480 --> 55:20.760] It's got lines on both sides and all of the fees and such on it.
[55:20.760 --> 55:26.840] It'll be the biggest document in it, two to three pages, but it's always legal-sized.
[55:26.840 --> 55:27.840] Okay.
[55:27.840 --> 55:35.840] It's labeled HUD 1 settlement statement, or it may just say settlement statement.
[55:35.840 --> 55:36.840] Okay.
[55:36.840 --> 55:37.840] Okay.
[55:37.840 --> 55:44.640] I just- I just want to be certain because it is a lot of documentation.
[55:44.640 --> 55:45.640] Yeah.
[55:45.640 --> 55:55.800] All I need is the truth in lending, note, and that HUD 1, the rest of it I don't need.
[55:55.800 --> 55:58.800] And that's down in the side of the public records.
[55:58.800 --> 55:59.800] Okay.
[55:59.800 --> 56:02.800] Those are found in your closing documents.
[56:02.800 --> 56:07.800] Everything else is found in the county registrar deeds.
[56:07.800 --> 56:08.800] Okay.
[56:08.800 --> 56:09.800] Okay.
[56:09.800 --> 56:12.800] This is taking too long.
[56:12.800 --> 56:16.400] Let's do this off the air.
[56:16.400 --> 56:17.400] I'm kind of running out of time.
[56:17.400 --> 56:21.240] I need to- I've got three more callers I need to get to.
[56:21.240 --> 56:23.720] So- Thank you.
[56:23.720 --> 56:27.720] We'll talk Tuesday.
[56:27.720 --> 56:33.000] Just send me an email with your phone number and I'll call you Tuesday.
[56:33.000 --> 56:34.000] Yes.
[56:34.000 --> 56:35.000] Thank you.
[56:35.000 --> 56:36.000] Okay.
[56:36.000 --> 56:38.000] Thank you, Colleen.
[56:38.000 --> 56:39.000] Okay.
[56:39.000 --> 56:43.640] Now we're going to go to Mr. Rader in Oregon.
[56:43.640 --> 56:44.640] Randy.
[56:44.640 --> 56:47.640] Howdy, howdy.
[56:47.640 --> 56:49.640] What do you have for us today?
[56:49.640 --> 56:52.240] Today was a good day.
[56:52.240 --> 56:59.560] For you, for me, and everybody, listen to this.
[56:59.560 --> 57:05.200] In the justice court of the state of Oregon, for the county of Clackamas, state of Oregon
[57:05.200 --> 57:11.240] as the plaintiff versus myself, the defendant, that's on the left side of the page, right
[57:11.240 --> 57:21.000] side of the page, citation number AFI-00002, motion in order to dismiss the violation.
[57:21.000 --> 57:23.000] Yahoo!
[57:23.000 --> 57:29.000] We came, we saw, we kicked her behinds.
[57:29.000 --> 57:31.000] Indeed.
[57:31.000 --> 57:40.360] Now, would you call that now jeopardy attaches at this point?
[57:40.360 --> 57:41.360] Not necessarily.
[57:41.360 --> 57:45.000] It depends on the reason for the dismissal.
[57:45.000 --> 57:46.000] Okay.
[57:46.000 --> 57:52.360] Let me read further here, it says, comes now the particular deputy, last name Hilton, first
[57:52.360 --> 58:01.000] initial A, a deputy sheriff for Clackamas County, Oregon, who moves the court to dismiss
[58:01.000 --> 58:04.320] the above Oregon uniform citation number.
[58:04.320 --> 58:10.080] And in Senate court date and time was 1st September 29, 2016 at 10 a.m.
[58:10.080 --> 58:14.000] That was supposed to be the trial date.
[58:14.000 --> 58:22.000] But the cancellation of trial notice, and below that, it says it's on the 29th of August.
[58:22.000 --> 58:25.520] Okay, wait, wait, hang on, we're about to go to break.
[58:25.520 --> 58:33.160] This is Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:33.160 --> 58:38.800] We've got an hour left, Colin, Mark, I see you there, we'll get to everybody, we'll be
[58:38.800 --> 58:50.240] right back.
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[01:02:50.320 --> 01:03:14.720] but of the world via ICANN.
[01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:21.040] We are back, Randy Kelton, Wheel of Law Radio, and we're talking to Radio in Oregon.
[01:03:21.040 --> 01:03:32.320] You asked if Malice attached, and since the deputy, I take it this was the deputy who
[01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:42.960] wrote the citation, is the one that moved to dismiss, if that's the case, I would say
[01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:57.880] Malice would attach, because if he didn't have grounds to try to prosecute, he didn't
[01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:00.680] have grounds to initiate.
[01:04:00.680 --> 01:04:07.040] Now if the prosecutor had done it or the judge had done it, you know, there might be some
[01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:12.280] administrative reason, they might say, well, you know, we didn't get this done in time,
[01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:19.280] so under due process, we have a duty to dismiss, something like that, Malice would not attach.
[01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:27.200] But if the complaintant moved to dismiss, I would say Malice attached.
[01:04:27.200 --> 01:04:32.800] He writes this bogus citation, and then when you fight it, he ducks and runs for cover.
[01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:39.320] Well, I don't know what I did right, but I did something right.
[01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:47.200] And I'd say go for his throat.
[01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:54.360] This is different than ordinary civil behavior, this is law.
[01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:59.240] No quarter.
[01:04:59.240 --> 01:05:07.600] I like to tell clerks when they get smartsy mouth with me, is I will not be reasonable,
[01:05:07.600 --> 01:05:12.800] I will not be understanding.
[01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.280] So this is no time to be reasonable or understanding.
[01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:22.280] Okay, okay, so what do you plan to do?
[01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:29.040] Okay, that's what I'm going to, that's what I need to have the coaches advice on my next
[01:05:29.040 --> 01:05:31.040] move.
[01:05:31.040 --> 01:05:35.760] Now this is itching me to tell somebody about it, because I just got it today.
[01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.760] And I sent an email to Eddie, because he's, you know...
[01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:49.120] We definitely oppose crowing rights, so you get the cock-a-doodle-doo.
[01:05:49.120 --> 01:05:59.720] Yes, so this is what I did though, prior to the first appearance, I filed four documents
[01:05:59.720 --> 01:06:05.120] that I'm supposed to be required to do, that's what Eddie suggested me to do, is to file
[01:06:05.120 --> 01:06:13.040] the facts and evidence, the affidavit of not engaging in transportation, the declination
[01:06:13.040 --> 01:06:21.080] of pleading, and then citing the lack of jurisdiction in the case and in the matter, citing that
[01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:27.400] it is a civil infraction, any of these traffic stops are civil infractions.
[01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:33.080] And as you were talking about earlier in the show, that law enforcement doesn't have jurisdiction
[01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:38.360] for traffic law in general.
[01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:41.360] So I cited those things to the court.
[01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:47.840] Well, that is the case for the most part in Texas.
[01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:58.480] But then again, Texas law is, in this regard, is absolutely insane.
[01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:08.520] It appears as though they very carefully carved out very specific places that they intended
[01:07:08.520 --> 01:07:11.680] for the traffic laws to be enforced.
[01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:13.180] If you live in...
[01:07:13.180 --> 01:07:20.920] If you're in a county that borders one of the Mexican states, if you're in a county
[01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:28.520] of more than 50,000 that has a Department of Defense highway and is adjacent to a county
[01:07:28.520 --> 01:07:34.160] with over three million people, what the heck is that nonsense?
[01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:37.640] The whole thing is like this.
[01:07:37.640 --> 01:07:40.120] It's really convoluted.
[01:07:40.120 --> 01:07:55.520] If you're a city of under 50,000 and you're in a county of less than a million and the
[01:07:55.520 --> 01:08:02.680] county has a Department of Defense highway through it, you can enforce.
[01:08:02.680 --> 01:08:05.200] What is all that?
[01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:14.400] It's like they picked counties around the state and wrote this code to single them out.
[01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:20.520] So it's likely it's not as wacko in Oregon.
[01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:28.240] Do you know what it says about in Oregon transportation code about who can enforce traffic code?
[01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:40.920] Briefly, I read parts of the statute and it says those peace officers who are in direct
[01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:49.680] observations of particular violations can establish subject matter jurisdiction in the
[01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.520] field, but it doesn't specifically say what kind of...
[01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:54.520] No, no.
[01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:55.520] That's not what I'm talking about.
[01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:05.840] In the section of the Oregon code that adopts the transportation code, that's where this
[01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.720] is at in Texas, it's in administrative code.
[01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:16.920] It says, oh, it creates the Department of Public Safety, the state police, and it adopts
[01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:23.200] the transportation code and then it says who can enforce the transportation code.
[01:09:23.200 --> 01:09:32.120] So you might look for where the Oregon code adopts the transportation code because I think
[01:09:32.120 --> 01:09:38.400] most every state has adopted the federal uniform transportation code.
[01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:42.480] It'll be in there who can enforce it.
[01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:43.960] Okay.
[01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:56.200] I have in my inbox, I went to the library and they sent me all the particular sections
[01:09:56.200 --> 01:10:03.200] concerning transportation and the transportation codes of Oregon, the revised statute sections
[01:10:03.200 --> 01:10:04.200] on that.
[01:10:04.200 --> 01:10:12.200] Oh, I have to research that and look in there, see if I can find the language and which section
[01:10:12.200 --> 01:10:21.440] in the language describes particularly which body of law enforcement is able to exercise
[01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:25.720] subject matter jurisdiction over the general public and traffic.
[01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:26.720] Yeah.
[01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:27.720] There's more.
[01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:38.960] Look in there real close because even the areas that can enforce, the individual who
[01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:49.720] enforces has to have certain certifications and training and none of them here do.
[01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:55.240] These guys obviously don't understand the code.
[01:10:55.240 --> 01:11:01.640] They're assuming that it's a general code and it's not.
[01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:07.520] It's very specific to commerce and that's part of the reason that there are all of these
[01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:08.520] restrictions.
[01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:15.080] What it says here is a sheriff of a county can appoint up to five individuals to enforce
[01:11:15.080 --> 01:11:25.320] the transportation code and where he can recommend these and these individuals all have to receive
[01:11:25.320 --> 01:11:33.000] certification by the department of public safety or state police.
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:42.080] But he can appoint a municipal officer, but that municipal officer must meet these requirements
[01:11:42.080 --> 01:11:48.160] and have all those wacko requirements they have to meet and then the only sheriffs of
[01:11:48.160 --> 01:11:55.760] certain counties can appoint five officers if they're bordering one of the Mexican states
[01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:57.520] and all this crazy stuff.
[01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:06.760] So you probably got a section that not only says who can do it, but also addresses special
[01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:11.160] training and certification.
[01:12:11.160 --> 01:12:21.360] The most devastating tools I have are two information requests that asks for the certifications
[01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:31.080] of the officers who are authorized the certification under Texas Administrative Code 7001.004
[01:12:31.080 --> 01:12:38.200] or something and then Texas Transportation Code 644. something.
[01:12:38.200 --> 01:12:40.040] And it asks for those certifications.
[01:12:40.040 --> 01:12:43.160] I have never had anybody be able to produce them.
[01:12:43.160 --> 01:12:44.160] Wow.
[01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:46.680] Well, I have a question here.
[01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:51.640] I brought up on my screen here and I'm looking in the transportation code section there it
[01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:52.640] says 803.10.
[01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:53.640] Let's see what it says.
[01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:54.640] It's an application.
[01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:55.640] It's under this.
[01:12:55.640 --> 01:13:00.640] I wonder if this is correct.
[01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:05.600] Applications of Uniform Commercial Code, is that what I'm looking for?
[01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:06.600] No that's UCC.
[01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:10.280] We're looking for transportation code.
[01:13:10.280 --> 01:13:13.280] That's the law of contracts.
[01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:19.000] Okay, application certification is this good, okay, then sort of just, all right, purpose,
[01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:20.000] record.
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.000] I'm looking at all these.
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:25.280] It's just false swearing, prohibited, all that kind of stuff here.
[01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:26.280] Let's see.
[01:13:26.280 --> 01:13:30.800] Okay, let me do something while you're looking that up.
[01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.440] I have a first time caller I'd like to take and then I'll come back to you.
[01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:35.440] Would that be okay?
[01:13:35.440 --> 01:13:36.440] Yeah.
[01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:37.440] Sure.
[01:13:37.440 --> 01:13:38.440] I'll hang up.
[01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:39.440] Stay hooked up.
[01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:40.440] I'll just mute you.
[01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:41.440] All right.
[01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:42.440] Okay.
[01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:46.400] Now, we're going to go to Colin in Tennessee.
[01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:47.400] Hello Colin.
[01:13:47.400 --> 01:13:48.400] Hello Randy.
[01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:53.480] Thank you for taking my call.
[01:13:53.480 --> 01:13:54.480] No problem.
[01:13:54.480 --> 01:13:56.720] I like to take calls from Tennessee.
[01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:57.720] I'm from Tennessee.
[01:13:57.720 --> 01:13:58.720] Okay.
[01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.400] So, you don't have to worry.
[01:14:01.400 --> 01:14:02.400] I speak hillbilly.
[01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:03.400] Fluent hillbilly.
[01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:04.400] Fluent hillbilly.
[01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:12.520] I'm in Texas now, so I also speak redneck.
[01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:17.680] That's the greatest mix ever, hillbilly redneck.
[01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:18.680] Okay.
[01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:21.440] What do you have for us today?
[01:14:21.440 --> 01:14:34.360] Well, what I have is I got a notice from the IRS, that three-letter word, that my W2, I
[01:14:34.360 --> 01:14:46.360] don't know, or it's related to W2, it is a letter form 2802C, and they indicated that
[01:14:46.360 --> 01:14:52.920] I needed to change my W4 withholding, as-
[01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.920] Wait a minute.
[01:14:55.920 --> 01:15:00.520] 7 before, not as in 1974?
[01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:09.160] No, 2802C, letter number 2802C.
[01:15:09.160 --> 01:15:10.160] Okay.
[01:15:10.160 --> 01:15:19.120] What was the nature of the withholding they wanted you to change?
[01:15:19.120 --> 01:15:27.080] Well, they're stating that I'm claiming too many exemptions from the W4 that was submitted
[01:15:27.080 --> 01:15:31.320] to the employer, which I've had that way for...
[01:15:31.320 --> 01:15:40.560] I haven't changed it for over five years, five to six years.
[01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:45.760] And so, I've been researching it a little bit, and I come to the understanding that
[01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:55.240] the W4 is voluntary, and I was wondering how I could respond to this letter, other than
[01:15:55.240 --> 01:15:58.560] simply- Okay.
[01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:07.200] The problem with the IRS is while it's voluntary, if you don't volunteer, they'll arrest you.
[01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:08.200] Yeah.
[01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:11.840] Now, that's not right, but that's how it works.
[01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:19.680] So, my suggestion is, request a clarification.
[01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:24.320] They want to play little games with letters, give them one back.
[01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:30.960] They're in receipt of their letter, notifying you that they have reason to believe that
[01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:35.400] you are claiming too many exemptions.
[01:16:35.400 --> 01:16:43.960] Please provide me with chapter and verse that on which you rely to make this determination.
[01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:47.080] Send it back to me.
[01:16:47.080 --> 01:16:50.880] Request for clarification.
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[01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:27.600] We are back, Randy Kelton, The Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Collin in Tennessee.
[01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:37.280] And while I'm not the IRS expert, I do understand how the law works.
[01:19:37.280 --> 01:19:44.080] And these IRS agents, whoever sent you this letter, I'm going to bet that it's a letter
[01:19:44.080 --> 01:19:51.280] the computer automatically spits out when it sees a certain number of exemptions.
[01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:57.960] I'm going to suggest you send them back a letter requesting clarification.
[01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:02.800] Because we have a rule here that we follow and it says never make a proactive statement
[01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.760] of law out of your own mouth.
[01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.000] You must make it out of the mouth of the legislature.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:18.320] So normally you can't ask them to give you law, but in this case, they've made reference
[01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:20.800] to law.
[01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:35.960] So you request to them the specific statutory limitation to which they refer in this letter.
[01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.280] And I'm going to bet that this is computer generated.
[01:20:39.280 --> 01:20:44.680] Okay, it's not about the money.
[01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:49.720] They want to hold your money all year and not pay you interest on it.
[01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:54.800] So they want to deduct it every week or every month out of your paycheck.
[01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:56.960] And they want to hold it all year.
[01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:01.160] Now if they deduct too much, they'll give it back to you, but they're not going to pay
[01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:03.840] you interest on it that they collected.
[01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.720] So it sounds like they're afraid they're not collecting enough interest because you don't
[01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:15.280] owe anything until there is an assessment at the end of the year.
[01:21:15.280 --> 01:21:16.560] Yeah.
[01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:20.680] So screw you guys.
[01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.440] They just want to hold your money.
[01:21:22.440 --> 01:21:32.080] And generally, if you give them a well directed response, they just back off.
[01:21:32.080 --> 01:21:40.280] And I'm betting that if you request clarification by demanding the statutory foundation for
[01:21:40.280 --> 01:21:46.960] their claim, you won't hear anything and all this goes away.
[01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:55.440] Okay, because in the letter that they state that if I don't change the W-4 withholding
[01:21:55.440 --> 01:22:02.480] with the employer, that they'll send a lock-in letter for the employer to change the withholding
[01:22:02.480 --> 01:22:09.440] and even possibly assess a fine of $500.
[01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:13.720] Oh, wonderful.
[01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:16.720] Okay.
[01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.360] They've claimed that they're going to do something.
[01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:24.280] So you send back a letter requesting clarification.
[01:22:24.280 --> 01:22:31.240] If they don't provide clarification, then you have reason to believe that they have
[01:22:31.240 --> 01:22:38.880] exerted or purported to exert an authority they do not expressly have and that's a crime
[01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:43.040] in every state.
[01:22:43.040 --> 01:22:47.120] And here's the IRS's agents problem.
[01:22:47.120 --> 01:22:55.280] I don't remember the exact statute right now, but there is a IRS code that requires all
[01:22:55.280 --> 01:23:03.480] IRS agents to follow, to abide by all law in the collection of the taxes.
[01:23:03.480 --> 01:23:08.000] Now, have you been in the military?
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:09.000] No.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.000] Okay.
[01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:20.440] Well, I was in the military and I was in Vietnam and we're flying air support for ground troops.
[01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:24.560] So by the book, we could load about 40 bombs a night.
[01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:27.000] They would bring us 200 to 250.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:33.920] Well, I had a twin brother with boots on the ground in South Vietnam.
[01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:36.960] Whatever they give us, we loaded it.
[01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:43.640] And then they give us this direct order that we would load by the book, but it wasn't possible
[01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.200] to load all of these by the book.
[01:23:46.200 --> 01:23:47.200] And they knew that.
[01:23:47.200 --> 01:23:53.760] And they gave us that order because they knew we were going to load them anyway.
[01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:58.880] Because we're flying fire support for other troops on the ground.
[01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.380] We're going to give them what they need.
[01:24:01.380 --> 01:24:05.800] But if something bad happens, they get to come back on us and they're protecting themselves.
[01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:10.520] I arrested the same thing to the agents.
[01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:15.440] They demand that they collect more money than they could possibly collect.
[01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:19.240] And then they demand that they follow all law in the collecting of the money so that
[01:24:19.240 --> 01:24:21.640] if they do something wrong, they can blame the agent.
[01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:22.640] Okay.
[01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.240] It's important we understand that.
[01:24:25.240 --> 01:24:28.320] Now you ask the agent.
[01:24:28.320 --> 01:24:35.780] The agent has made a proactive statement of law out of his own mouth.
[01:24:35.780 --> 01:24:41.160] You ask him for the statute in support of his assertion.
[01:24:41.160 --> 01:24:48.160] When he doesn't give it to you, then you can assume that there is no such statute.
[01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:52.800] And that he lied when he sent this to you.
[01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:58.720] And you go to the state and file criminal charges against him.
[01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:05.720] Well, you're not going to get the criminal charges prosecuted, but here's the cool thing
[01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.840] about filing criminal charges against the agent.
[01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:15.040] The first thing you do is poison his well.
[01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:20.240] You accuse him of a crime and now he's discredited.
[01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:28.280] And the second thing you do is you create a line of complaints.
[01:25:28.280 --> 01:25:32.800] You'll file this with a local magistrate.
[01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:37.720] And the magistrate will say, well, I like to federal and I can take federal.
[01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:39.680] Yes, you can.
[01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.000] It's not federal.
[01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:50.480] If an IRS agent runs a red light and T bones a car and kills somebody, they're going to
[01:25:50.480 --> 01:25:53.640] prosecute him in the state.
[01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:55.200] That's true.
[01:25:55.200 --> 01:26:00.640] So he's in the state and he's subject to the state common law.
[01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:05.200] So you filed a complaint against him.
[01:26:05.200 --> 01:26:08.240] And the first thing they're going to do, who have you filed it with?
[01:26:08.240 --> 01:26:09.240] Most likely prosecutor.
[01:26:09.240 --> 01:26:11.280] He's going to tell you, you can't file.
[01:26:11.280 --> 01:26:15.600] And then you file against the prosecutor and he's going to get all pissed off.
[01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.520] And they're going to call the IRS and say, I got some guy here trying to get me to arrest
[01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:20.520] you.
[01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:21.520] You want to explain what's going on?
[01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:28.040] And then the IRS agent is going to say, what the heck?
[01:26:28.040 --> 01:26:33.600] And they're likely to get his boss and it will create problems for him.
[01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:37.080] He only cares about collecting money.
[01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:48.120] And since you're filing a criminal accusation, you have the same immunity that a judge has.
[01:26:48.120 --> 01:26:51.400] You can't be touched.
[01:26:51.400 --> 01:26:59.000] So once you file the complaint, if you get another letter from the IRS, then you charge
[01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:03.000] whoever sent the letter with felony retaliation.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:04.480] Okay.
[01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:05.880] Okay.
[01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:11.780] There's a thing about the criminal side.
[01:27:11.780 --> 01:27:14.240] Nobody uses it.
[01:27:14.240 --> 01:27:19.240] But you know, the police, they want you to report crime.
[01:27:19.240 --> 01:27:26.400] So in order to make it so that you can report crime, when you do report crime, you are absolutely
[01:27:26.400 --> 01:27:31.880] immune from any retribution.
[01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:38.040] If they say or do anything that you can in any way take as a threat, that bumps up to
[01:27:38.040 --> 01:27:42.280] a felony really fast.
[01:27:42.280 --> 01:27:45.600] It just puts the agent on the dime.
[01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.080] They mostly feel like they can do anything they want to.
[01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:56.400] We got an agent in Florida, in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, fired using this tactic.
[01:27:56.400 --> 01:28:03.480] We went after her criminally and the U.S. attorney stepped in the middle and we filed
[01:28:03.480 --> 01:28:07.400] criminal complaints against the U.S. attorney for shielding from prosecution.
[01:28:07.400 --> 01:28:14.880] Two days later, the IRS agent was fired.
[01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:18.120] Criminal complaints really work, but if this is your first time calling, do you listen
[01:28:18.120 --> 01:28:19.120] to us very much?
[01:28:19.120 --> 01:28:20.120] Yes.
[01:28:20.120 --> 01:28:21.120] I've been listening periodically.
[01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:22.120] Okay.
[01:28:22.120 --> 01:28:23.120] Good.
[01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:27.760] And you kind of understand where I'm going here.
[01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:28.760] Yeah.
[01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:29.760] Yeah.
[01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:36.320] So just, they want to fight, take it back to them, except you don't fight by their rules,
[01:28:36.320 --> 01:28:38.120] you fight by your rules.
[01:28:38.120 --> 01:28:39.120] Yeah.
[01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:44.240] And most likely, they're going to go try to collect from somebody else and leave you alone.
[01:28:44.240 --> 01:28:45.240] Yeah.
[01:28:45.240 --> 01:28:52.880] Now, they already thought to collect from me for a prior tax year, 2011 or so, I sent
[01:28:52.880 --> 01:29:00.240] an assessment for that and, you know, I sent them information and after getting several
[01:29:00.240 --> 01:29:04.720] letters they tossed everything and zeroed everything.
[01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:06.680] And so that was just recently.
[01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:07.680] Yeah.
[01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:13.720] Well, see, it's all about collecting money and if you make it look like they're not going
[01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:19.280] to be able to collect any money from you, they go with somebody else because their boss
[01:29:19.280 --> 01:29:24.200] don't want to hear about this guy's a jerk and he'd give me a hard time, so we want to
[01:29:24.200 --> 01:29:25.200] beat him up.
[01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:26.400] No, no, no.
[01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:29.000] We want to collect money.
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:33.360] So if you make it hard to collect money from, they're likely to go somewhere else.
[01:29:33.360 --> 01:29:34.360] Yeah.
[01:29:34.360 --> 01:29:35.360] Okay.
[01:29:35.360 --> 01:29:36.360] We are about to go to break.
[01:29:36.360 --> 01:29:39.360] Do you have anything else for us?
[01:29:39.360 --> 01:29:46.600] Other scenarios, too, was that I haven't filed any returns since, I guess, the past three
[01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:51.480] years and I was wondering if this was in any way related to that, too.
[01:29:51.480 --> 01:29:52.480] It's probably not.
[01:29:52.480 --> 01:29:53.480] They would have noticed.
[01:29:53.480 --> 01:29:54.480] Okay.
[01:29:54.480 --> 01:29:55.480] We're about to go to break.
[01:29:55.480 --> 01:29:56.480] We'll be right back.
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[01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:28.040] We're talking to Colin in Tennessee.
[01:33:28.040 --> 01:33:30.120] Colin, I do need to move along.
[01:33:30.120 --> 01:33:42.360] I am not the IRS guy, but if you will send me an email, send it to randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:33:42.360 --> 01:33:44.960] I will get this to Barry.
[01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:55.240] Now, Barry Brooks is probably the guy who knows IRS code better than anyone else that
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[01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:14.680] Thank you, Colin.
[01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:15.680] Okay.
[01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:19.160] Now we're going to go back to Rader in Oregon.
[01:34:19.160 --> 01:34:20.160] Hello, Rader.
[01:34:20.160 --> 01:34:21.160] Hey, Randy.
[01:34:21.160 --> 01:34:22.160] Thank you very much.
[01:34:22.160 --> 01:34:29.040] Okay, this is what I've found or discovered during the intermission where you're helping
[01:34:29.040 --> 01:34:30.880] to call us in Tennessee.
[01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:41.080] I found in the Oregon Revised Statutes under Police General Authority, and if you'd like
[01:34:41.080 --> 01:34:43.800] me to read some of them, I can do that.
[01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:51.080] There's like one, two, and three, but the third one, third item in the Oregon Revised
[01:34:51.080 --> 01:34:56.160] Statutes is a police officer shall not arrest a person for a traffic violation.
[01:34:56.160 --> 01:35:03.800] Well, that's what happened to me last October in a different case that I think I had maybe
[01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:07.920] a year to file a lawsuit against that officer.
[01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:11.760] But in this case here, this officer- Wait a minute.
[01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:15.880] How long do you have to file criminal charges against the officer?
[01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.240] I believe it's one more year.
[01:35:18.240 --> 01:35:24.520] It's coming up to one year now, in October when that occurred, so I believe it's two
[01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.480] years for that.
[01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:35.760] So file the criminal charge, and whoever you file it with, when they don't act on it, then
[01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:40.600] you get your time to sue or get renewed.
[01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:49.200] Right, that's a total of two years for that as well to pursue a civil case as well against
[01:35:49.200 --> 01:35:50.200] the officer.
[01:35:50.200 --> 01:35:58.360] But that's what I read there, and other items in here is that the officer may stop and detain
[01:35:58.360 --> 01:36:03.400] a person for a traffic violation for the purposes of investigation reasonably related to the
[01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:07.400] traffic violation identification and issuance of citation.
[01:36:07.400 --> 01:36:19.080] That's what it says in the next part that's in the Organized Statutes under 810.4010 where
[01:36:19.080 --> 01:36:20.640] it starts at.
[01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:24.960] That's the particular section on general authority.
[01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:32.880] Now trying to understand this, a police officer shall not arrest a person for a traffic violation.
[01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:42.040] Okay, so my question about that is, did the officer arrest you for a traffic violation
[01:36:42.040 --> 01:36:47.680] or something related to traffic that really wasn't under the traffic code?
[01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:56.800] Like in Texas, driving on an invalid license is a class B misdemeanor and doesn't fall
[01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:59.800] under the transportation code.
[01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:09.960] Well, here in Oregon, at least in the initial, let's put it this way, if you're being stopped
[01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:16.920] for say like the first or second time or third time, it's all considered civil infractions.
[01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:20.720] But the officer, this particular officer in this particular traffic stop that just happened
[01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:26.880] a month and a half or so ago, and the officer moved to have the case dismissed, in my favor?
[01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:27.880] Yes.
[01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:33.160] He says through conversion, if you keep doing this, he gave me a stern warning, if you continue
[01:37:33.160 --> 01:37:40.320] to keep doing this, through conversion, they can up it to a misdemeanor if you continue
[01:37:40.320 --> 01:37:46.320] to do this and actually serve jail time for these offenses.
[01:37:46.320 --> 01:37:55.280] Okay, so do you have any idea why he moved to dismiss?
[01:37:55.280 --> 01:38:00.600] That's what I have to investigate because I just got this in the mail this afternoon.
[01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:07.640] And of course, you get the initial joy and sense of victory and zeal when you first receive
[01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:08.640] it.
[01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:16.640] But now I have to go down to that particular court and inquire as to why.
[01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:20.360] That'll determine whether or not you have a claim against him.
[01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:21.360] Right.
[01:38:21.360 --> 01:38:29.640] Well, as what Eddie always says, civil infractions in your state, the traffic stop in itself
[01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:30.640] is illegal.
[01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:35.040] That's what he emphasizes many times.
[01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:38.560] So it doesn't matter about arguing transportation at this point.
[01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:40.800] Why are you arguing that?
[01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:45.280] The stop itself is the offense committed against the individual.
[01:38:45.280 --> 01:38:53.400] Well, are they statutorily given the right to stop for a civil infraction?
[01:38:53.400 --> 01:38:58.880] It sounded like you read that they were.
[01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:07.720] Now, as it says, for traffic violations, that's what the language that they use.
[01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:11.600] But if you look behind that, that's civil infraction.
[01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:16.480] It falls under the category of civil infraction that it's not pursuant to the penal code.
[01:39:16.480 --> 01:39:22.600] Yeah, but it sounds like that's a special statute that gives them specific authorization
[01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:26.000] to stop for this specific purpose.
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:27.000] Yeah.
[01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:35.960] It says that we have one officer witnesses when a traffic violation is committed in the
[01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:43.240] police officer's presence, but they're saying where they claim it all.
[01:39:43.240 --> 01:39:52.840] That's relatively consistent with other states' codes that arrest for traffic has to be on
[01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:53.840] site.
[01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:54.840] Yes.
[01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:55.840] Okay.
[01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:59.800] But he is given specific authorization.
[01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:05.000] So the fact that it may be a civil infraction becomes irrelevant because there is a special
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:08.640] statute specifically authorizing this arrest.
[01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:09.640] Right.
[01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:13.520] But then it also says it cannot.
[01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:18.240] But it's kind of a contradiction because it says the officer shall not arrest the person
[01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:22.640] for a traffic violation, but the traffic stop is a custodial arrest of itself.
[01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:34.160] Well, they're making a statutory distinction between a Terry stop and an actual arrest.
[01:40:34.160 --> 01:40:40.880] The stop for the purpose of investigation sufficient to determine whether or not a crime
[01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:43.600] has been committed for which you can be arrested.
[01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:47.880] If they don't find something for which you can be arrested, there's a limited amount
[01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:52.840] of time they can hold you for investigation, then they have to release.
[01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:53.840] Right.
[01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:54.840] Right.
[01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:55.840] Yeah.
[01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:56.840] And they always do this.
[01:40:56.840 --> 01:41:03.680] They give the citations as well, I'm not authorizing you to be able to drive away, sir, but you
[01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:06.480] make the adult decision on your own.
[01:41:06.480 --> 01:41:09.520] It's not to say that another officer won't stop you.
[01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:13.120] And they always say, well, you're legally parked, so I won't tow the vehicle as they
[01:41:13.120 --> 01:41:18.200] say, but not to say that another officer shall not do so.
[01:41:18.200 --> 01:41:19.200] Yeah.
[01:41:19.200 --> 01:41:24.080] So in that mind, you make your own decisions and choices, and then they part ways.
[01:41:24.080 --> 01:41:25.080] Okay.
[01:41:25.080 --> 01:41:27.720] I do have one more caller.
[01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:29.920] Do you have anything else for us?
[01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:30.920] Yes.
[01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:31.920] What do I do now?
[01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:32.920] What's my next move?
[01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:33.920] What's my next move?
[01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:34.920] What's my next move?
[01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:35.920] What's my next move?
[01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:36.920] First thing, yeah.
[01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:37.920] I would want to know...
[01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:38.920] What's my next move?
[01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:39.920] ...what the grounds were for dismissal.
[01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:40.920] Okay.
[01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:41.920] Grounds for dismissal?
[01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:42.920] Yeah.
[01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:47.920] So I need to go down to that particular court and ask them, what's the grounds for dismissal?
[01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:48.920] Yeah.
[01:41:48.920 --> 01:41:54.480] Because the officer, I would think, so you'd ask the judge, did the officer just say, well,
[01:41:54.480 --> 01:41:58.280] I want to dismiss it, or did you ask him why?
[01:41:58.280 --> 01:42:02.400] Can he dismiss the criminal accusation without cause?
[01:42:02.400 --> 01:42:05.080] I'm going to bet he can't.
[01:42:05.080 --> 01:42:07.600] I don't know if I stirred something up.
[01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:12.200] I stirred a cyclone up there in the court, but when I opened up my initial arraignment,
[01:42:12.200 --> 01:42:24.680] I made my intentions to the court that I will, shall pursue, filing charges for this civil
[01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.480] infraction where the officer did not have subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:42:28.480 --> 01:42:31.360] This court doesn't have subject matter jurisdiction in this case.
[01:42:31.360 --> 01:42:37.080] And if you don't dismiss, I shall file complaints to that.
[01:42:37.080 --> 01:42:41.920] And that's what I told the judge in court on the arraignment.
[01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:51.160] So that's where it stood, and that was my last words before she said, okay, well, I'll
[01:42:51.160 --> 01:42:57.960] set the trial date for September 29th in this department at 10 a.m., and inter-plea, and
[01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:00.480] not guilty, and you're on your behalf, and all that.
[01:43:00.480 --> 01:43:12.560] So, yeah, you might put in a request for the reason for dismissal, so then you won't know
[01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:19.400] what to do until you see that or don't see it, but I'll have to think about what you
[01:43:19.400 --> 01:43:21.520] do if you don't get a response.
[01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:22.520] Right.
[01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:28.120] Yeah, that's the next thing I understand, one way or the other, you know.
[01:43:28.120 --> 01:43:29.120] Yes.
[01:43:29.120 --> 01:43:30.120] Okay.
[01:43:30.120 --> 01:43:33.720] So, Raider, we're going to go to Mark in Texas.
[01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.720] Hello, Mark.
[01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:47.560] Hello, Mark, are you there?
[01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:50.560] I'm not hearing you.
[01:43:50.560 --> 01:44:00.520] Okay, it looks like we may have lost Mark, but we'll be right back.
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[01:46:15.480 --> 01:46:19.280] We're into Kevin Falcon, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to Mark in Texas.
[01:46:19.280 --> 01:46:20.280] Hello, Mark.
[01:46:20.280 --> 01:46:21.280] Hi, Randy.
[01:46:21.280 --> 01:46:22.280] Good evening.
[01:46:22.280 --> 01:46:23.280] Good evening.
[01:46:23.280 --> 01:46:25.280] What do you have for us today?
[01:46:25.280 --> 01:46:31.800] Well, you and I have talked a lot, and it's always been good.
[01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:37.120] I'm calling because I've got a short, sweet question, and it might wrap things up if you
[01:46:37.120 --> 01:46:39.880] don't have anybody else to call then.
[01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:45.320] I have a case for wrongful foreclosure, pretty sure, I have a void judgment, I have a void
[01:46:45.320 --> 01:46:51.720] assignment that renders everything that came after it void, and in reaching out and trying
[01:46:51.720 --> 01:47:00.120] to find an attorney who might be able to handle this so that I am on the... What is the right
[01:47:00.120 --> 01:47:01.120] expression?
[01:47:01.120 --> 01:47:07.600] So that I suffer no undue prejudice and no unjust prejudice, I'm finding it to be kind
[01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:10.040] of a difficult thing.
[01:47:10.040 --> 01:47:14.840] I'm kind of putting together something of a prospectus that I could put in front of
[01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:18.920] some of these people, because I've had some people that were recommended who have actually
[01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:27.760] taken the Wisconsin PSU, and they still don't seem to get this, but my question to you is,
[01:47:27.760 --> 01:47:35.120] I wanted to ask you if you could suggest a good strategy or a good place to search to
[01:47:35.120 --> 01:47:41.800] actually find wrongful foreclosure cases, many of them are not published, any idea how
[01:47:41.800 --> 01:47:45.840] I can find unpublished material or...
[01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:52.800] Yes, at least in Tarrant County I know how.
[01:47:52.800 --> 01:48:03.840] Foreclosure is a code, you can go to the county and they generally have cases listed by codes,
[01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:13.320] and I know Tarrant County has foreclosure and they have a separate code for home equity
[01:48:13.320 --> 01:48:15.640] loans.
[01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:24.160] So you could probably do a search for anything relating to foreclosure, and wrongful foreclosure
[01:48:24.160 --> 01:48:28.440] would be in there, you'd get all the cases on that issue.
[01:48:28.440 --> 01:48:34.400] Interesting, I've noticed there's one in Houston where they were awarded about five
[01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:38.480] million dollars, whatever, tonight as you were talking a little bit earlier and you
[01:48:38.480 --> 01:48:44.840] were asking a lady for the PUD-1 statement, the note, etc., my takeaway there was, hey,
[01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:50.920] I remember you talking about this, you have a method for coming up with a number there
[01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:58.560] that's a whole lot lower and probably a whole lot more just than what you might find on
[01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:08.600] a common note, you're financing 99,000 bucks or whatever, anyway, interesting, that's really
[01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:15.240] all I was wanting to know, how I might find some good information about wrongful foreclosure
[01:49:15.240 --> 01:49:16.240] cases.
[01:49:16.240 --> 01:49:21.320] I found a blog with an attorney in the state of Missouri who was mentioned in two cases,
[01:49:21.320 --> 01:49:26.560] little things like this, but it seems like it's very hard to find cases out there in
[01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:33.000] just doing a Google search or maybe just going to Google Scholar, even typing in wrongful
[01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:37.280] foreclosure, is that the best search term there, do you have any feeling on that?
[01:49:37.280 --> 01:49:45.680] Well, when I do research, I don't even use Google Scholar, I have not had good luck with
[01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:53.120] Google Scholar, I just do a regular search, we've got a lot of lawyers out there who post
[01:49:53.120 --> 01:50:01.600] articles mainly so that other lawyers will find their articles, and 50% of all a lawyer's
[01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:11.800] business tends to be referrals from other lawyers, so I just do a Google search on whatever
[01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:20.440] the subject is, and I find all sorts of treatises, I find briefs, I find court cases, I do better
[01:50:20.440 --> 01:50:27.040] just with Google than anything else, and mainly you'll find a lot of lawyers who are posting
[01:50:27.040 --> 01:50:37.160] articles on the subject that you're looking for, the more closely you can define the subject,
[01:50:37.160 --> 01:50:47.000] the more likely you are to get a lawyer that's dead on what you do, and man, I find briefs,
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:55.840] I do, legal research takes me no time now, because there's so much out there by these
[01:50:55.840 --> 01:51:03.800] lawyers trying to get business that it's easy to find, and finding lawyers who do foreclosure
[01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:10.680] defense, just put a search for wrongful foreclosure, and start looking at the articles you get
[01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:16.000] and see who wrote them, it's almost always an attorney, you know.
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:23.760] In the state where I'm looking, and even those that say they do it still don't quite get
[01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:28.560] it, there are a few that I might actually revisit, so it's kind of an interesting thing,
[01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:35.600] but it's almost like I have to sell this case to them, and go the extra mile to do it, so
[01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:40.720] it's definitely a pain, but I'm sure it's going to happen.
[01:51:40.720 --> 01:51:44.720] And it's part of the fact that the lawyer's in business to make money, and you've got
[01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:50.720] to, probably when you talk to lawyers, you probably scare them.
[01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:57.720] Oh sure, you know, the last guy I spoke to said, I'm curious, you know, why you didn't
[01:51:57.720 --> 01:51:58.720] hire a lawyer?
[01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:03.640] And I said, well, I couldn't find one, I looked, there was nobody that really impressed
[01:52:03.640 --> 01:52:10.760] upon me that they were truly qualified to do it, had won things, the guy that kept getting
[01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:15.920] referred didn't know the most crucial case in the state, but I mentioned it to him, he
[01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:22.080] wasn't familiar with it, and I thought, this guy couldn't possibly be the right guy.
[01:52:22.080 --> 01:52:26.880] Yeah, you probably terrify lawyers.
[01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:33.440] Lawyers really hate knowledgeable clients.
[01:52:33.440 --> 01:52:36.000] They should, you know.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:42.920] It's hard to manipulate and screw around a knowledgeable client.
[01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:47.520] Yeah, well, without a doubt, I suspect that.
[01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:51.080] I cannot hire a lawyer, period.
[01:52:51.080 --> 01:52:57.240] I went to a law firm, I was looking for one, the guy used to be the district attorney,
[01:52:57.240 --> 01:53:02.920] and he had set up his own law firm, and there was this young guy there, and I told him that
[01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:11.960] I had a small claims court issue where a title company didn't return, or returned to earn
[01:53:11.960 --> 01:53:17.320] this money that was non-refundable, and I just wanted to see if we could get the five
[01:53:17.320 --> 01:53:18.320] grand back.
[01:53:18.320 --> 01:53:26.080] So he said, oh yeah, we can handle that, and then Sunday morning he called me and said,
[01:53:26.080 --> 01:53:29.720] Mr. Kelton, I can't represent you.
[01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:34.240] I said, you found out who I was, didn't you?
[01:53:34.240 --> 01:53:41.600] Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did, and I can't represent you.
[01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.200] Dishonorable guy.
[01:53:44.200 --> 01:53:51.360] He just knew that I knew more about the law he was adjudicating than he did, and he had
[01:53:51.360 --> 01:53:55.680] had his boss warn him off me.
[01:53:55.680 --> 01:54:01.440] I cannot get a lawyer to represent me, because they're afraid of people who know more than
[01:54:01.440 --> 01:54:09.800] they do, or if not more, they know enough to know when the lawyer is screwing them around,
[01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:12.920] because they want to be able to do what they want to do.
[01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:20.640] They're in business to make money, they're not in business to adjudicate my case.
[01:54:20.640 --> 01:54:30.020] So if he looks at my case, he gets his retainer, he wants to use up the retainer, but his problem
[01:54:30.020 --> 01:54:36.200] with me is when he uses up the retainer and he tries to withdraw, I'm not going to let
[01:54:36.200 --> 01:54:40.320] him, and he'll be stuck with me.
[01:54:40.320 --> 01:54:47.280] He knows I know how it works, and that's a problem when you're too knowledgeable.
[01:54:47.280 --> 01:54:51.800] I do not find lawyers, for the most part, very knowledgeable at all.
[01:54:51.800 --> 01:54:53.360] On occasion, I can find one.
[01:54:53.360 --> 01:55:03.400] You might look at lawyers who do appeal work, they get the bigger bucks, but they also are
[01:55:03.400 --> 01:55:04.400] smarter.
[01:55:04.400 --> 01:55:09.320] So you might find one of them that'll pick up your case.
[01:55:09.320 --> 01:55:10.880] That's a good possibility.
[01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:11.880] For me, it's interesting.
[01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:16.920] I've talked to people who are law professors, and I'm figuring, okay, this person's going
[01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:24.200] to be even more scholarly than a common guy out there in the political trenches, and then
[01:55:24.200 --> 01:55:29.520] I'm trying to explain to the guy, hey, look, if there has been a fraud upon the court,
[01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:31.960] you can go back to the court at any time.
[01:55:31.960 --> 01:55:37.280] If there's a void judgment, it's as though it never happened, res judicata doesn't apply.
[01:55:37.280 --> 01:55:43.840] I love what you were saying about 12b6, because I did not know what you had said there.
[01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:55.200] The idea of rescission, if you go back and you simply discover more than $35 of erroneous
[01:55:55.200 --> 01:56:09.680] accounting or something, I'm going to read the whole thing, and I'll never ask you about
[01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:12.720] it ever again, unless I know what I'm talking about.
[01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:17.880] 1635i is right down there at the end, and it's not very big.
[01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:24.120] You've just got, I think, I think J or K is all they got.
[01:56:24.120 --> 01:56:30.800] So there's not very, 1635 Truth in the Ending Act, and this section's not very big.
[01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:45.240] 1635 is all rescission, 1635f is a three-year rescission, 1635i is after notice of acceleration.
[01:56:45.240 --> 01:56:50.720] Well, that'll be some fun.
[01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:57.440] I don't know how it's going to apply one way or another with respect to what I've got.
[01:56:57.440 --> 01:57:06.560] It's the thing that I'm figuring out is it doesn't really matter what the law says.
[01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:13.040] It matters what you can get the courts to do, and the politics and the money, that's
[01:57:13.040 --> 01:57:16.040] what matters.
[01:57:16.040 --> 01:57:20.600] If I can cost them a lot of money, I can bring them to the table.
[01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:25.480] If I file a suit that's frivolous, you know, they may jump up and down and wave their arms
[01:57:25.480 --> 01:57:30.360] and rail in righteous indignation, but the judge is going to just dismiss my case.
[01:57:30.360 --> 01:57:37.200] If they file one that's frivolous, the judge is going to bank them good.
[01:57:37.200 --> 01:57:41.720] So try to get people to understand it's not always about what you can actually adjudicate.
[01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:48.480] It's what you can beat them up with, and I know I get some negative feedback for that,
[01:57:48.480 --> 01:57:57.120] but I'm learning how to be a pro se shyster, and I like it.
[01:57:57.120 --> 01:58:04.880] Okay, I did something wrong, so there's no remedy for me doing that wrong.
[01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:05.880] So who cares?
[01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:06.880] I move in.
[01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:12.760] Well, thanks very much, and thanks for everything you do.
[01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:16.320] Keep up the good work, and God bless you, Pam.
[01:58:16.320 --> 01:58:17.320] Thank you.
[01:58:17.320 --> 01:58:18.320] Thank you, Mark.
[01:58:18.320 --> 01:58:23.040] This is Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio.
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