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[00:40.000 --> 00:46.000]  Today in history, the year 1929, the Geneva Convention dealing with the treatment of prisoners
[00:46.000 --> 00:51.000]  of war is signed by 53 nations. Its provisions dealt mostly with the capture and captivity
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[01:03.000 --> 01:08.000]  In recent news, Julian Assange, via his anonymous whistleblower site, WikiLeaks, released
[01:08.000 --> 01:13.000]  20,000 hacked emails from the Democratic National Convention on Friday, July 22, days before
[01:13.000 --> 01:17.000]  the commencement of the convention, on Monday, allowing it to be disseminated and read over
[01:17.000 --> 01:21.000]  the weekend. The emails were so embarrassingly damning that they resulted in Debbie Schultz,
[01:21.000 --> 01:25.000]  the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, resigning on Sunday, a day before
[01:25.000 --> 01:29.000]  the opening ceremonies. Amongst the litany of embarrassing emails leaked by WikiLeaks,
[01:29.000 --> 01:35.000]  there were emails from January 2015 to May 2016 where DNC staff essentially preselected
[01:35.000 --> 01:39.000]  Hillary for the nomination discussing how to deal with Bernie Sanders in order to ensure
[01:39.000 --> 01:44.000]  Clinton's nomination long before any votes have been cast. The bulk of released emails come
[01:44.000 --> 01:49.000]  from seven prominent DNC staff members, senior advisor Andrew Wright, national finance director
[01:49.000 --> 01:54.000]  Jordan Kaplan, finance chief of staff Scott Comer, Northern California finance director
[01:54.000 --> 01:59.000]  Robert Stowe, finance director of data and strategic initiatives Daniel Parrish, finance
[01:59.000 --> 02:04.000]  director Alan Zachary, and Miranda. Amongst the emails was one dated May 5 where the chief
[02:04.000 --> 02:08.000]  financial officer of the Democratic National Committee, Brad Marshall, suggested attacking
[02:08.000 --> 02:13.000]  Sanders over his Jewish heritage, contrasted to his atheistic tendencies. This WikiLeak
[02:13.000 --> 02:17.000]  comes weeks after hacker Guccifer 2.0 had released several internal memos showing that
[02:17.000 --> 02:22.000]  the DNC staff were strategizing to make Clinton the presidential nominee as early as March
[02:22.000 --> 02:27.000]  2015. This release was followed by a class action lawsuit against Debbie Schultz and
[02:27.000 --> 02:32.000]  the DNC in June by Florida based law firm Beck and Lee. If this wasn't enough, an email
[02:32.000 --> 02:37.000]  dated May 6 from the DNC digital office and Obama campaign veteran Rebecca Christopher
[02:37.000 --> 02:41.000]  read, quote, attached to the script for a new video we'd like to use to mop up some
[02:41.000 --> 02:46.000]  of the more taco bowl engagement and demonstrate that Trump actually isn't trying. It is yet
[02:46.000 --> 02:51.000]  unclear whether she was referring to Donald Trump's Cinco de Mayo tweet or to the Hispanic
[02:51.000 --> 02:56.000]  voting constituents as the Taco Bell engagement. This is Brooke Lodi with your Lowdown for
[02:56.000 --> 03:11.000]  July 27th, 2016.
[03:11.000 --> 03:27.000]  Okay. We are back. Randy Felton, BetPak. We have our radio and we're going to Oliver
[03:27.000 --> 03:34.000]  in Tennessee. Hello, Oliver. Hello. How you doing? I'm doing good. What do you have for
[03:34.000 --> 03:41.000]  us today? Well, I was just calling to see if you got a chance to look at the information
[03:41.000 --> 03:48.000]  that I sent you. Wait, look at the what? Information, the information, the Tennessee codes, the
[03:48.000 --> 03:56.000]  statutes that I sent you. Well, I looked at the codes, but I wasn't sure what the context
[03:56.000 --> 04:02.000]  was. So I really didn't know how to analyze them. Well, I sent you the whole chapter just
[04:02.000 --> 04:12.000]  to put out. Oh, I didn't see a subsequent email. I saw the one from yesterday, but I
[04:12.000 --> 04:22.000]  didn't see one after that. I'm going to my email and I've got, I may have just gotten
[04:22.000 --> 04:36.000]  a virus in here because I've got my emails repeating. Hold on, let me check. I can't
[04:36.000 --> 04:44.000]  find it in my email. My emails are organizing themselves somehow and I'm not sure how it
[04:44.000 --> 04:52.000]  did that. Okay. Well, I don't know. So I can't find it. Let me give you a quick explanation
[04:52.000 --> 05:00.000]  of what it's talking about. As you were talking about foreign code or law or legal code or
[05:00.000 --> 05:07.000]  the foreign law is a subject itself, then it has legal code, which is subject itself
[05:07.000 --> 05:18.000]  and or- Wait a minute, hold on. Legal code is what? Legal code is building in code, legal
[05:18.000 --> 05:28.000]  codes, the codes that the municipalities operate by. Those are legal codes. Okay. When you
[05:28.000 --> 05:32.000]  were speaking to me yesterday, you were trying to make the attachment of what am I trying
[05:32.000 --> 05:42.000]  to say by foreign law because the states have adopted the codes, which are legal codes.
[05:42.000 --> 05:49.000]  So what it's saying that the natural person, which is me, you, and everyone else who is
[05:49.000 --> 05:57.000]  not incorporated are protected from legal code because of the constitution, Tennessee's
[05:57.000 --> 06:06.000]  Article I, Section 21. That whole chapter really gives you, that whole chapter that
[06:06.000 --> 06:16.000]  gives you a clear whole definition of what a natural person and foreign code, I mean
[06:16.000 --> 06:35.000]  foreign law, legal code, and ordinance means and who it applies to. Okay. Point, I'm not
[06:35.000 --> 06:41.000]  sure where you're going here. Are you saying that the code does not apply to you? I'm digging
[06:41.000 --> 06:47.000]  through my emails trying to find your latest email and I'm not finding one. Yes, the code
[06:47.000 --> 06:54.000]  does not apply to me because I'm not part of the public, which they have jurisdiction
[06:54.000 --> 07:04.000]  over to manage to protect. That's why the codes are there for residences like hotels
[07:04.000 --> 07:08.000]  or places where people are going to come in service. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're
[07:08.000 --> 07:18.000]  saying that Tennessee law doesn't apply to you because you're not a legal fiction company
[07:18.000 --> 07:23.000]  that you're a natural person. I'm not sure where you're going here. Right. The natural
[07:23.000 --> 07:32.000]  persons are protected. They have rights against foreign law, legal code, and ordinance. They
[07:32.000 --> 07:42.000]  have protection and all those protections. Okay. One thing that I have found very consistent
[07:42.000 --> 07:50.000]  in law is that the law is very rational. It's very reasonable. When I come across something
[07:50.000 --> 07:56.000]  that doesn't sound reasonable, it's almost certainly not. It's just a matter of figuring
[07:56.000 --> 08:05.000]  out why. What I hear you saying to me is that law does not apply to a living, breathing
[08:05.000 --> 08:11.000]  human being, that it only applies to legal fiction. Am I missing this? No, no, no, no,
[08:11.000 --> 08:21.000]  no, no, no, no. I ain't saying that. It says that the natural person has special restrictions
[08:21.000 --> 08:28.000]  as far as constitutional and state constitutional. Okay. So we have certain rights that are,
[08:28.000 --> 08:36.000]  we have rights that are specifically protected by the constitution. And we have general rights.
[08:36.000 --> 08:46.000]  Right. So the statute, it explains to them who is allowed, committed, who they have permission,
[08:46.000 --> 08:54.000]  how they have permission to apply these foreign laws, legal codes, and ordinances on natural
[08:54.000 --> 09:02.000]  persons. Now on everyone else who fits into the scheme, you have to follow everything.
[09:02.000 --> 09:14.000]  Okay. I still keep tripping over foreign law. What does foreign mean? As used in this chapter,
[09:14.000 --> 09:24.000]  foreign law, legal code, or system means any law, legal code, or system of a jurisdiction
[09:24.000 --> 09:31.000]  outside of any state or territory of the United States, including but not limited to international
[09:31.000 --> 09:39.000]  organizations and tribunals, and applied by that jurisdiction's courts, administrative
[09:39.000 --> 09:45.000]  bodies, or other formal or informal tribunals. So when you say foreign law in the context
[09:45.000 --> 09:57.000]  of these, this particular set of statutes, this means law from outside the United States.
[09:57.000 --> 10:03.000]  But you seem to be talking about law from outside the United States and inside the United
[10:03.000 --> 10:15.000]  States at the same time. Right. So how do you, the definition says it can't be state
[10:15.000 --> 10:22.000]  or federal law. Right. But you're applying it to state and federal law. No, the codes
[10:22.000 --> 10:30.000]  are not law. The codes were not enacted by the legislator. No, they weren't. But the
[10:30.000 --> 10:42.000]  code is a reflection of the public law. The code, this is something that Ralph Winneroot
[10:42.000 --> 10:52.000]  pushed and it was correct, but it gave a false impression of what the code is. The code is
[10:52.000 --> 10:58.000]  a reflection of the public law. The public laws are passed just whenever they get to
[10:58.000 --> 11:05.000]  it. You're not incorrect. You're not incorrect. Use that model that you're saying, because
[11:05.000 --> 11:11.000]  it seems like you can't get past it without using that model. That model is correct. But
[11:11.000 --> 11:16.000]  even though you have that model, let's say I'm on my property, you can't use that code
[11:16.000 --> 11:22.000]  on private property because it's protected. It's a natural right. It's a natural right
[11:22.000 --> 11:29.000]  that a person can have. I don't understand what you're talking about. Your property is
[11:29.000 --> 11:39.000]  only protected to a certain degree. You and I and the rest of these members of this republic
[11:39.000 --> 11:48.000]  have, through our legislature, mutually agreed to restrict certain of our rights. Right.
[11:48.000 --> 11:56.000]  And those restrictions are codified into the law. But now you're saying that the law doesn't
[11:56.000 --> 12:02.000]  apply. No. Because it's your private property. I'm not sure where you're going here. No,
[12:02.000 --> 12:08.000]  no, I'm not saying that it does not apply. The law does apply, but it says that before
[12:08.000 --> 12:15.000]  you apply it to a natural person, you need to look at, you need to make sure that your
[12:15.000 --> 12:23.000]  law, your legal code or law or ordinance does not violate the constitution. Okay. That's
[12:23.000 --> 12:29.000]  pretty simple. I mean, that's pretty straightforward. Right. I'm not saying it does not apply.
[12:29.000 --> 12:35.000]  It does apply. It does apply. But these are the rules on how it applies. Okay. So if you
[12:35.000 --> 12:43.000]  apply, if you apply something and it violates a natural person's right underneath the United
[12:43.000 --> 12:49.000]  States constitution, the constitution of tenancy or the articles of tenancy, you have committed
[12:49.000 --> 12:59.000]  an offense against public act. I think they call it. Okay. Now, wait a minute. Okay. That's
[12:59.000 --> 13:11.000]  an extension that I haven't heard before. If the law is in force, and you are charged
[13:11.000 --> 13:19.000]  with the duty of enforcing the law, and then the law is subsequently determined to be
[13:19.000 --> 13:26.000]  unconstitutional. Right. Then you're liable for enforcing an unconstitutional law. Is
[13:26.000 --> 13:31.000]  that where you're going? Yes. That's what that whole, yes. That's what that chapter
[13:31.000 --> 13:40.000]  is saying. Okay. Here's a problem with that. Okay. All crimes are thought crimes. Okay.
[13:40.000 --> 13:48.000]  I'm sorry. That's not appropriate because we're not talking about criminals. You're
[13:48.000 --> 13:56.000]  holding someone liable for acting in good faith reliance on competent authority. Right.
[13:56.000 --> 14:02.000]  They were basically, we were, they are contracted to protect us and protect our rights, protect
[14:02.000 --> 14:07.000]  the constitutional rights of the United States, constitutional rights of tenancy and articles
[14:07.000 --> 14:16.000]  Okay. So let me make sure I understand what you're saying. If a law is in place and it
[14:16.000 --> 14:27.000]  has not been declared unconstitutional, and I act to enforce that law. Yes. I'm acting
[14:27.000 --> 14:35.000]  in good faith reliance on the validity of that law. Right. If the law is subsequently
[14:35.000 --> 14:42.000]  determined to be unconstitutional, then you want to, you're implying that you could come
[14:42.000 --> 14:52.000]  back expo facto and litigate against me for acting in accordance with a law that was valid
[14:52.000 --> 15:02.000]  at the time. And that appears to go in conflict with the prohibition against expo facto prosecutions.
[15:02.000 --> 15:07.000]  Well, see, I knew you would be able to put it together better. I just find the information
[15:07.000 --> 15:11.000]  and let you see it. Yeah. I know, I know how it works on papers. I understand what you
[15:11.000 --> 15:17.000]  mean when you're saying it. Expo facto. I like that up. Yeah. Expo facto is where we
[15:17.000 --> 15:23.000]  pass a law that forbids something. And then we go back to you when you did something before
[15:23.000 --> 15:31.000]  the law was passed and we try to prosecute you with that law. So all of the, the whole
[15:31.000 --> 15:38.000]  thing about making this work right is all of the pieces have to fit together. Well,
[15:38.000 --> 15:45.000]  how about, Paul understands with this. Well, as far as building in code, building in code
[15:45.000 --> 15:53.000]  is a foreign, they adopted it from the international code. Yeah. Once they adopted it, it was no
[15:53.000 --> 16:04.000]  longer a foreign code. It became our code, which is a legal code. Yes. Yes. Okay. All
[16:04.000 --> 16:09.000]  right. So now it's a legal code. So now they, they came on my property property and they
[16:09.000 --> 16:15.000]  applied all these legal codes. Like they were the big boss and then left like nothing was
[16:15.000 --> 16:25.000]  going to happen. Well, yeah, they, well, apparently from what I've heard of your position is that
[16:25.000 --> 16:31.000]  they didn't properly apply these legal codes. Well, even if they did properly apply the
[16:31.000 --> 16:38.000]  legal codes, they were not allowed to grant committed to them because I had a natural
[16:38.000 --> 16:45.000]  person protection again. No, no, no, you're not. This is what the guy, the other guy was
[16:45.000 --> 16:50.000]  saying. Oh, I don't agree to the law. Therefore it doesn't apply to me. You're saying that
[16:50.000 --> 16:57.000]  you're naturally immune from the laws that we've passed. That doesn't make sense. No,
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[19:30.000 --> 19:35.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with the Radio and we're talking to Oliver in Tennessee.
[19:35.000 --> 19:46.000]  And Oliver, I'm concerned because you're going to a place that is likely to weaken your case.
[19:46.000 --> 19:49.000]  All right, I understand your argument.
[19:49.000 --> 19:55.000]  Okay, just the reason I'm being, if I sound like I'm stressed here, and that's why,
[19:55.000 --> 20:02.000]  because I've been doing this show for a long time and I have people that look at the code
[20:02.000 --> 20:08.000]  and get an opinion about the code. And every time I look at one of those opinions,
[20:08.000 --> 20:15.000]  I compare it to what a reasonable person of ordinary prudence would expect to find in law.
[20:15.000 --> 20:23.000]  And I've always found it to be a really good gauge. And it's most likely that I'm not
[20:23.000 --> 20:29.000]  understanding your position because you've done way too much homework.
[20:29.000 --> 20:35.000]  You're way too fluid on the facts and the law. I'm missing something.
[20:35.000 --> 20:50.000]  So how is it that you get to the place that this entity acting under what appears to be standing law
[20:50.000 --> 21:00.000]  yet can't enforce that law against you? Is that a correct characterization of what you're talking about?
[21:00.000 --> 21:07.000]  Right, it's not that it can't enforce the law against me. It can enforce the law against me.
[21:07.000 --> 21:14.000]  But in certain ways, when I am in the public, as far as my private property,
[21:14.000 --> 21:24.000]  my private property has constitutional protection on it.
[21:24.000 --> 21:28.000]  Okay, sounds like you're going to Fourth Amendment.
[21:28.000 --> 21:35.000]  Right, there's protection. That's what it means by committee, by granting committee.
[21:35.000 --> 21:44.000]  You cannot grant authority to these laws on someone that has protection of constitutional things.
[21:44.000 --> 21:47.000]  Okay, now, okay, this we can do.
[21:47.000 --> 21:55.000]  But it doesn't say that I'm not under, I don't have to follow these rules as far as when they are established.
[21:55.000 --> 22:00.000]  If I get into some kind of contract, even though I don't know I'm in the contract,
[22:00.000 --> 22:03.000]  but if that contract put me underneath that jurisdiction,
[22:03.000 --> 22:11.000]  then I have no longer those constitutional protections because I become a person, I become an entity.
[22:11.000 --> 22:17.000]  I become subject to the statute.
[22:17.000 --> 22:26.000]  Okay, and it is your position that you do not fall within the statutory scheme?
[22:26.000 --> 22:35.000]  I do fall within the statutory scheme, but the statutory scheme has protections for natural persons.
[22:35.000 --> 22:38.000]  Natural persons are people who are human.
[22:38.000 --> 22:44.000]  Okay, what are the protections that you're relying on? Since you're...
[22:44.000 --> 23:00.000]  The protection is the Fourth Amendment and 14th Amendment and Tennessee Article 1, Section 21.
[23:00.000 --> 23:11.000]  Okay, if the Tennessee Article reflects the Fourth and 14th Amendments,
[23:11.000 --> 23:16.000]  then it goes to protected rights that you have.
[23:16.000 --> 23:17.000]  Right.
[23:17.000 --> 23:27.000]  Okay, those rights have been limited by legislation.
[23:27.000 --> 23:29.000]  By the Code.
[23:29.000 --> 23:34.000]  Okay, and there's something I'm not understanding.
[23:34.000 --> 23:40.000]  You have agreed that you fall within the statutory scheme.
[23:40.000 --> 23:45.000]  And I think maybe we're bringing over broad.
[23:45.000 --> 23:51.000]  You're agreeing that you fall under the protections that are in the Constitution?
[23:51.000 --> 23:57.000]  No, underneath the statutory scheme has protections for natural persons.
[23:57.000 --> 24:02.000]  Okay, then you're being too vague. I don't know what you're talking about.
[24:02.000 --> 24:06.000]  What specifically are those protections?
[24:06.000 --> 24:10.000]  Those protections are all the protections that are contrary to...
[24:10.000 --> 24:15.000]  No, no, you're being vague in general. Never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[24:15.000 --> 24:28.000]  What are those protections? Okay, the protection that I had to sue a person, a property right not to be taken.
[24:28.000 --> 24:29.000]  Without due process.
[24:29.000 --> 24:31.000]  Without due process.
[24:31.000 --> 24:41.000]  Okay, we're still too vague here because due process means in accordance with law.
[24:41.000 --> 24:44.000]  So did they act in accordance with law?
[24:44.000 --> 24:52.000]  If they did, then they're within their rights and they haven't breached your due process rights.
[24:52.000 --> 24:59.000]  If they're outside law, then they've breached your due process right.
[24:59.000 --> 25:07.000]  Unless they have a law that they're acting under the authority of that is unconstitutional.
[25:07.000 --> 25:13.000]  Then what we have to do is challenge the constitutionality of the law.
[25:13.000 --> 25:24.000]  But in that case, we wouldn't have a claim against the actors because they were acting in good faith reliance on the validity of the law.
[25:24.000 --> 25:29.000]  I'm not sure what the nature of your claims.
[25:29.000 --> 25:34.000]  No, no, no. It's not a nature of my claim. I'm not trying to use it.
[25:34.000 --> 25:37.000]  It's just the information that I'm trying to show.
[25:37.000 --> 25:41.000]  I'm listening to your radio and I'm finding all these interesting facts out.
[25:41.000 --> 25:53.000]  And when I read that, when someone reads that, that should tell you that these are the protections that you have against any type of code or law.
[25:53.000 --> 26:04.000]  If you are a natural person, if you are not some type of entity, if you are a person-legged human being, you breathe in a dollar phone, you know,
[26:04.000 --> 26:19.000]  if you are a person and you have constitutional protection and provision, no foreign law, no legal code, no ordinance, no municipal ordinance
[26:19.000 --> 26:27.000]  can violate any one of those, any of the numerator protections in any one of those documents.
[26:27.000 --> 26:41.000]  If that happens, if that happens, this chapter will inform you more of the process.
[26:41.000 --> 26:45.000]  Okay. I'm still not sure where you're going.
[26:45.000 --> 26:57.000]  It sounds like you're presuming that your property is absolutely inviolate and untouchable by anyone because it's your property.
[26:57.000 --> 27:01.000]  Is that your position?
[27:01.000 --> 27:04.000]  My private property is.
[27:04.000 --> 27:12.000]  Okay. So what about your real property?
[27:12.000 --> 27:19.000]  Your real property is a part of the world that everybody lives in.
[27:19.000 --> 27:31.000]  If that's, if you own that property, is it your position that no governmental entity can have any influence over that property?
[27:31.000 --> 27:49.000]  Right. The problem with that is we are in a Republic and in this Republic, the people in the Republic have agreed through our legislators
[27:49.000 --> 27:53.000]  to certain restrictions on our rights.
[27:53.000 --> 28:09.000]  And that's what the reference in the constitution to in the fourth amendment that says that you won't be deprived of your property
[28:09.000 --> 28:16.000]  except by due process. You won't be deprived of due process.
[28:16.000 --> 28:24.000]  I lost them. My words are getting twisted. They're getting tangled.
[28:24.000 --> 28:27.000]  Except by the due course of the loss.
[28:27.000 --> 28:28.000]  Right.
[28:28.000 --> 28:37.000]  Except by the due course of the loss. That means that your property is not absolutely protected.
[28:37.000 --> 28:40.000]  Yes. There's restrictions. That's what I meant.
[28:40.000 --> 28:48.000]  Okay. And these individuals claimed to be acting under one of those exemptions.
[28:48.000 --> 29:01.000]  Right. I understand that. But when you look at the legal standard that they have, it doesn't even stand.
[29:01.000 --> 29:05.000]  Their standing even proves my point even further.
[29:05.000 --> 29:13.000]  Okay. I think you're making an academic point and using the facts of this case to bolster your academic point.
[29:13.000 --> 29:26.000]  And everybody I think would agree that you have a right to your property and your person except where it's limited by code.
[29:26.000 --> 29:33.000]  You have a right to due process. And where code allows intrusion on your property, then your rights are restricted.
[29:33.000 --> 29:40.000]  And you're saying that these guys acted outside the code when they invaded your property. Am I correct in that?
[29:40.000 --> 29:46.000]  Right. And they have a statute which allows you to press suit.
[29:46.000 --> 29:49.000]  Okay. Hang on. We'll pick that up on the other side. Randy Kelton.
[29:49.000 --> 30:00.000]  That PAC with our radio. Our call in number 512-646-1984. Boris, I see you there. We'll get to you. We'll be right back.
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[33:22.000 --> 33:27.000]  Hey, we are back. Randy Kelton, BetPak, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Oliver in Tennessee.
[33:27.000 --> 33:35.000]  And Oliver, over the break, I was trying to figure out what I'm missing.
[33:35.000 --> 33:44.000]  You were way too knowledgeable to be misunderstanding something.
[33:44.000 --> 33:52.000]  Wait, wait. What I think it is, is I'm not able to understand where you're going.
[33:52.000 --> 34:00.000]  And I've been struggling to try to get there. What is the point of this position?
[34:00.000 --> 34:11.000]  This position, well, one, I wanted to bring it up to you just to show you, like, what type of stuff I'm finding in the legal,
[34:11.000 --> 34:18.000]  in the statute as I'm reading them. But as I see this, it's stating that a natural,
[34:18.000 --> 34:27.000]  there is a difference between a person and a natural person. It's included in the statute.
[34:27.000 --> 34:31.000]  Well, a person can be a legal fiction.
[34:31.000 --> 34:32.000]  Yes.
[34:32.000 --> 34:38.000]  A person can be a natural living, breathing human being, but also a legal fiction.
[34:38.000 --> 34:43.000]  And this is something we talk about a lot when we speak to definitions.
[34:43.000 --> 34:50.000]  Yeah, be careful with definitions because they use the word person a lot, and person is a tricky term, and I agree with that.
[34:50.000 --> 34:51.000]  Right.
[34:51.000 --> 34:56.000]  And you're making the distinction between person and natural person.
[34:56.000 --> 35:01.000]  Okay, I understand that too. A person does not have these constitutional guarantees.
[35:01.000 --> 35:08.000]  Right. So now that way you could settle some of the back and forth arguments,
[35:08.000 --> 35:12.000]  the back and forth nonsense arguments that you have in the courts with the people.
[35:12.000 --> 35:17.000]  Listen, okay, I'm not going through this. We know that a natural person is a natural person, okay?
[35:17.000 --> 35:23.000]  It's right here. I'm not jumping through those hoops with you.
[35:23.000 --> 35:28.000]  Okay. Well, this, the Constitution protects natural persons.
[35:28.000 --> 35:29.000]  Right.
[35:29.000 --> 35:37.000]  Or actually, it doesn't really protect you. It restricts public officials.
[35:37.000 --> 35:43.000]  Actually, that's really not correct. The Constitution does protect persons as well.
[35:43.000 --> 35:55.000]  The person designation was created to converse certain constitutional rights on entities as well as natural living human beings.
[35:55.000 --> 35:56.000]  Right.
[35:56.000 --> 36:04.000]  So an entity that owns property has the same protections that you do.
[36:04.000 --> 36:11.000]  Right. To a certain extent, because they go into a contract,
[36:11.000 --> 36:15.000]  and in that contract, everything is in there.
[36:15.000 --> 36:21.000]  So that's why it's important that people understand that, yeah, law is law,
[36:21.000 --> 36:27.000]  but you understand if you entered in some type of contract which fits you into that category,
[36:27.000 --> 36:34.000]  even though you're a natural person, you fit underneath those statutes. You do have to suffer those consequences.
[36:34.000 --> 36:44.000]  Exactly. If you have accepted the benefit of a contract, then you have bound yourself to the contract.
[36:44.000 --> 36:48.000]  You fall within the statutory, the regulatory scheme.
[36:48.000 --> 36:58.000]  Exactly. But since I'm not doing anything that allows the public to come on my property and be on my property,
[36:58.000 --> 37:05.000]  I'm not offering any type of residence on my property, the city don't have any authority to practice.
[37:05.000 --> 37:11.000]  Okay. So you're looking at trespass, criminal trespass.
[37:11.000 --> 37:18.000]  Yes, criminal trespassing plus taking. You took my cars, you took my house, you took my ability to work.
[37:18.000 --> 37:28.000]  I've been embarrassed. I got locked up, false imprisonment, false arrest, assault, kidnapping, aggravated kidnapping.
[37:28.000 --> 37:37.000]  Yes. And okay, all of this goes exactly to where we are with this show.
[37:37.000 --> 37:42.000]  There are guys who say the law doesn't apply. Well, maybe it doesn't.
[37:42.000 --> 37:46.000]  But it looks like it applies and it feels like it applies.
[37:46.000 --> 37:53.000]  So as far as I'm concerned, if it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, I better learn to understand the duck.
[37:53.000 --> 37:59.000]  Right. It does apply because we got to be, we have to, we hired them to protect us.
[37:59.000 --> 38:03.000]  So that means it automatically applies. There's crimes, criminals.
[38:03.000 --> 38:09.000]  You go out there, you harm someone else, which they are protected, they're protected by the constitution or something.
[38:09.000 --> 38:13.000]  You fall underneath the criminal category. It applies to you.
[38:13.000 --> 38:17.000]  Don't care if they came from another country and try to enforce that code.
[38:17.000 --> 38:22.000]  It applies to you because you harmed one of our citizens, one of our brothers that have been hurt.
[38:22.000 --> 38:31.000]  Now, if they try to fit you into underneath the category, commerce or transportation, and you were not in transportation,
[38:31.000 --> 38:37.000]  now it's our right as the people to sit there and protect you as they're trying to do this.
[38:37.000 --> 38:41.000]  But we have to educate ourselves to understand that you're not in transportation.
[38:41.000 --> 38:45.000]  That law does not apply to you. You did not harm anyone.
[38:45.000 --> 38:52.000]  But now you go hit someone in the mouth or steal some of their stuff, you fall underneath the criminal code.
[38:52.000 --> 39:00.000]  We all fall underneath underneath. We all fall underneath that because we harm some, we harmed another natural person.
[39:00.000 --> 39:10.000]  Or a person or a business. You can't go around harming entities or natural persons or anything.
[39:10.000 --> 39:15.000]  Okay. And that we agree with.
[39:15.000 --> 39:24.000]  And the political entities that we have created, the public entities we have created,
[39:24.000 --> 39:31.000]  we created them and gave them certain powers and authorities.
[39:31.000 --> 39:39.000]  And they only have the power and authority that we specifically granted to them.
[39:39.000 --> 39:48.000]  Unlike you and I as natural human beings, we can do anything we want to.
[39:48.000 --> 39:55.000]  So long as we have not agreed to restrict our behavior. And we've done that in certain ways.
[39:55.000 --> 40:02.000]  We've agreed that we can't steal other people's property, that we can't kill other people and this various other things.
[40:02.000 --> 40:04.000]  So we've all agreed to those laws.
[40:04.000 --> 40:14.000]  So now we're in the statutory scheme and you're kind of roundabout going to the place I always want to go to first,
[40:14.000 --> 40:26.000]  is who are you and what authority do you have to interfere with my life?
[40:26.000 --> 40:28.000]  You police officer, you're going to write a ticket.
[40:28.000 --> 40:40.000]  First thing I want to know is what specifically is your authorization to do what you're claiming you're about to do?
[40:40.000 --> 40:47.000]  Second, what evidence shows that I fall within your statutory scheme?
[40:47.000 --> 40:53.000]  And when it comes to the actions, it doesn't matter if I fall within the scheme or not.
[40:53.000 --> 40:59.000]  They have to be, if I challenge it, they have to be able to show it and prove it.
[40:59.000 --> 41:08.000]  And here, from what I understand of your case, you have public officials entering in on your property and taking your property.
[41:08.000 --> 41:13.000]  And they're not within the limits of the code that applies to them.
[41:13.000 --> 41:16.000]  Is that an accurate assessment?
[41:16.000 --> 41:22.000]  Yes. And not only that, not only that, they're not even, they're not in the limits.
[41:22.000 --> 41:29.000]  They also apply a legal code that violated constitutional protection.
[41:29.000 --> 41:33.000]  Okay. Which code was that?
[41:33.000 --> 41:36.000]  Which code did they use?
[41:36.000 --> 41:40.000]  Yeah, that violated the constitutional protection.
[41:40.000 --> 41:50.000]  The legal code that they used.
[41:50.000 --> 41:53.000]  Oliver, I think we are losing you.
[41:53.000 --> 41:55.000]  Hello? Can you hear me?
[41:55.000 --> 42:01.000]  Okay. Yeah, you're back again. Your signal sounds like it's getting weak.
[42:01.000 --> 42:07.000]  I was trying to figure out which code was it. It was like 66.
[42:07.000 --> 42:11.000]  You referenced a code that you felt was unconstitutional.
[42:11.000 --> 42:21.000]  Right. The code that they used to get on my private property to lock down my house and take my property.
[42:21.000 --> 42:23.000]  What code was that?
[42:23.000 --> 42:35.000]  It was a city code plus a, I can't find anything for you.
[42:35.000 --> 42:41.000]  Six five, I mean six dash five five one one three.
[42:41.000 --> 42:43.000]  What does it read?
[42:43.000 --> 43:01.000]  The code that reads...
[43:01.000 --> 43:11.000]  Okay. And while you're looking that up, always in what I do, I practice never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[43:11.000 --> 43:15.000]  Always make it out of the mouth of the court or the legislature.
[43:15.000 --> 43:23.000]  So when I reference a code, I need to be able to either read or quote the code.
[43:23.000 --> 43:34.000]  I understand how to set up the portfolio, but I didn't think you were going to run me through the gauntlet right now.
[43:34.000 --> 43:38.000]  It's good practice. Hang on, we're about to go to break.
[43:38.000 --> 43:45.000]  I'm not trying to be pedantic. I just want to make sure that we're both on the same page.
[43:45.000 --> 43:46.000]  Okay.
[43:46.000 --> 43:50.000]  And that we keep moving forward. Hang on, Randy Kelton, VetPak, we have our radio.
[43:50.000 --> 44:02.000]  I'll call you number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[46:13.000 --> 46:36.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Backpack Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Oliver in Tennessee. We do need to close this up pretty soon, Oliver.
[46:36.000 --> 46:58.000]  I haven't meant to be difficult, but what I was trying to do is demonstrate how to think legally. I'm an engineer. I don't do philosophy, and I don't have philosophical opinions.
[46:58.000 --> 47:10.000]  All I can do is connect the dots, and that was the difficulty I was having today is connecting dots together so we can lead from one point to the next.
[47:10.000 --> 47:17.000]  If we're going to win in court, we have to be able to do that.
[47:17.000 --> 47:41.000]  The TCA code that they used was 6-54-113, and that code was about removal of trash and debris on certain lots.
[47:41.000 --> 47:54.000]  It says certain lots, so that way it automatically triggered me to go look at all the definitions in that chapter, because if you're telling me certain lots, that means there's an exclusion somewhere.
[47:54.000 --> 48:01.000]  Yes, certain lots without a specific definition would be extremely vague.
[48:01.000 --> 48:12.000]  Right. That's the code that they used, which saved us all the headaches, which I don't fit nowhere near that code.
[48:12.000 --> 48:31.000]  Now, they also included Section 8-112 of the city code, which is a version, is the version, the adopted version, which replicates the state code 6-54-113.
[48:31.000 --> 48:38.000]  That is also removal and debris of certain lots. How do you get...
[48:38.000 --> 48:43.000]  Did you look up certain lots? Yes.
[48:43.000 --> 48:46.000]  What did certain lots mean?
[48:46.000 --> 48:57.000]  Residential. People who were in residential, commerce, housing, enterprise.
[48:57.000 --> 49:05.000]  And I will look up residential as housing and commercial enterprise.
[49:05.000 --> 49:14.000]  Okay. My difficulty there is housing and commercial enterprise. So what does housing mean?
[49:14.000 --> 49:22.000]  Housing. You're providing a place for people to live, not somewhere that you own.
[49:22.000 --> 49:43.000]  No, I need a legal definition, because in order to get to your private property, they have the way to get there directly. And it sounded like the residential and commercial property, there wasn't a...
[49:43.000 --> 49:51.000]  It sounded like it went to commercial use of residential property.
[49:51.000 --> 50:00.000]  Is there a distinction between commercial and non-commercial as concerns properties?
[50:00.000 --> 50:08.000]  Yes. I don't have the way that you want me to explain it to you. I don't have it physically in front of me, because I didn't know.
[50:08.000 --> 50:23.000]  I did the research, but from what I explained is non-commercial is like Walmart, the tire shop where you go get your car serviced.
[50:23.000 --> 50:28.000]  No, no. You said non-commercial. That is commercial.
[50:28.000 --> 50:31.000]  I meant non-residential. I'm sorry. Non-residential.
[50:31.000 --> 50:53.000]  Okay. Residential is anywhere that provides a dwelling, which in the definition is defined dwelling or buildings as dwelling as far as in the framework of residential work.
[50:53.000 --> 51:12.000]  Okay. So certain lots, the term is unclear as certain has to specify something particular.
[51:12.000 --> 51:20.000]  And so far, I haven't heard anything in the definitions that designate anything particular.
[51:20.000 --> 51:34.000]  They didn't say commercial or residential properties. They said certain lots, and it can't be presumed to use those terms by accident because the codes are carefully crafted.
[51:34.000 --> 51:48.000]  So certain lots has to have some kind of meaning so that I can look at it and read it and know for certain whether it applies to me or not. Have you found that in the code?
[51:48.000 --> 51:50.000]  Yeah. Yeah. It's in the code.
[51:50.000 --> 52:02.000]  Okay. Then let's talk about this next week and give me a presentation that an eighth grader could understand.
[52:02.000 --> 52:16.000]  Stitch these pieces together for me so that anytime you use a term that has a specific meaning, that when you use the term, you say in this context, this word means this.
[52:16.000 --> 52:22.000]  And then keep going because if you use a word with special meaning, I'm going to develop a meaning in my brain.
[52:22.000 --> 52:40.000]  It may or may not be the right meaning. So when you craft these statements, you need to watch for places where someone can misconstrue or you have what in linguistics is called a complex equivalent.
[52:40.000 --> 52:54.000]  Complex equivalent is where I have a meaning for something and you have a different meaning for something, but the appearance is when we use the term that our meanings are the same when in fact they're not.
[52:54.000 --> 53:08.000]  And that can really confuse people. So try to give me a presentation on why these guys could not come on your particular property under the codes that they
[53:08.000 --> 53:13.000]  asserted under which they asserted authority. Does that make sense?
[53:13.000 --> 53:24.000]  Right. Well, the first thing is the certain lot is dwelling and a dwelling is where someone pays for housing.
[53:24.000 --> 53:32.000]  No one pays for housing here. I own this property. I live here. This is my, I own it. There's no residential activity going here.
[53:32.000 --> 53:44.000]  Okay, but you just jumped right into the middle of that. Okay. Does certain lots only apply to a dwelling?
[53:44.000 --> 54:04.000]  Yes. Nothing else. Only to dwellings and places where the public are allowed and places where public has access to because now because the public has access to your property,
[54:04.000 --> 54:18.000]  you have to follow these codes. So we, so they, so the city can protect the public because you don't want the public to come on your property and something happened because you were not following a code.
[54:18.000 --> 54:42.000]  Okay. That makes perfect sense. The problem is, is I don't have that in a context. We're doing bits and pieces. We need to be able to, you need to be able to bring me to this point very clearly so that I understand exactly what the frame is.
[54:42.000 --> 54:56.000]  How does commercial property not apply? And that, oh, and that would be in this information I would put in my notebook. So for my jury, for my jury notebook, right? For a jury trial.
[54:56.000 --> 55:08.000]  Yes. The last thing you should write is the jury charge is your final argument to the jury. That should be the first thing you write. Okay. I really need to move on.
[55:08.000 --> 55:23.000]  This has been waiting a long time. Let's pick this up next week. All right. Okay. Thank you, Oliver. Okay. Hello, Boris. What do you have for us today?
[55:23.000 --> 55:39.000]  Probably an unusual situation, I would think. I would hope anyway. But okay, I'm paying off my house that had, with a contract for deed. You know, I bought it with a contract for deed. And...
[55:39.000 --> 55:45.000]  Wait, did you buy it from a lender or from a private person?
[55:45.000 --> 55:57.000]  From, well, at the time there were two guys that had a partnership. And so it was, you know, they were like two landlords.
[55:57.000 --> 56:04.000]  Okay. So this is a private contract and it's not a residential mortgage.
[56:04.000 --> 56:23.000]  No, no, right. Yeah, right. And, but they did split up their partnership a couple of years ago. And so then one of the partners ended up, you know, being the one who holds the debt.
[56:23.000 --> 56:47.000]  And, well, the problem is that then that guy who holds the debt there all throughout last year, you know, 2015, he got a, he was in a divorce and he hid some of his assets or at least mine.
[56:47.000 --> 57:00.000]  And so now he's afraid of letting me pay it off because he's afraid it might reveal that he had kind of cooked the books, you know, during his divorce.
[57:00.000 --> 57:17.000]  You know, like switching around the paperwork or, you know, writing off the debt and handing me a warranty deed might send up a red flag, you know, that he had not been truthful during his divorce.
[57:17.000 --> 57:35.000]  Because during his divorce, he was like, you know, just claiming, you know, this contract for deed or anything pertaining to it. And, but in order for me to pay it off and get my title back and being able to sell the place.
[57:35.000 --> 57:58.000]  Well, you know, I need to be able to, you know, give someone a, you know, a clear title. And so anyway, I'm wondering, you know, if he worked to, if I were to pay him off or if he worked to sign it off, would that send up a red flag?
[57:58.000 --> 58:06.000]  You know, that he had, you know, that not been truthful? You know, what about his assets?
[58:06.000 --> 58:08.000]  Absolutely.
[58:08.000 --> 58:14.000]  I think so. I wonder how much that's monitored, you know.
[58:14.000 --> 58:18.000]  If he is, is his divorce complete?
[58:18.000 --> 58:26.000]  Yes, it's been complete for, since the end of the year.
[58:26.000 --> 58:37.000]  Okay, let's pick this up on the other side. Let me think about this over the break. But a good chance it'll send up a red flag.
[58:37.000 --> 58:50.000]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Vet Pack, Little La Radio. I called in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:31.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton back with you on the radio and we're talking to Boris in Texas.
[01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  Okay, you bought a house on contract, your lender, your seller is in a divorce and he hid the property from his spouse.
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:54.000]  The courts, if they find out he did that, will kick his behind every way from Sunday.
[01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:07.000]  Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, you know, and I mean, I got, you know, I don't want to get the guy in trouble, you know, I mean, I don't, but then again, I'm kind of stuck, you know.
[01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  Are you in a position to where you need to pay the property off?
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  No, no, he's not, you know, to where I need to.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:32.000]  No, I mean, no, no, because I would rather sell it, you know, pretty soon here, I could.
[01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:47.000]  There's a way for him to hide this, but I'm reluctant to conspire with this guy to hide his property from his spouse.
[01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.000]  That's pretty low down.
[01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  And if I were a lawyer, I'd be forbidden to because it'd be conspired to commit a crime and lawyers can't do that.
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  I'm not a lawyer, so I could do that, but I'm reluctant to do that.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:19.000]  You know, normally I don't take a position, but this seems like he's trying to get you in the middle of his corruption.
[01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  From your perspective, you need to be really, really careful. It's better if you don't know anything about it because you're in the property
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  and if the wife finds out that he's hiding the property and she can make a connection between you and him,
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  there's a very good chance if she sues him, she'll claim she'll name you as well because you're a soft target.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:55.000]  You're in the house. You have a lot invested in it. It would be easy for her to take you on.
[01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:02.000]  So trying to help this guy may wind up getting you into a pickle.
[01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  Well, then it's either that or just directly tell her, but I don't want to do that.
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:16.000]  I don't know what kind of can of worms I'd open up by doing that.
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:24.000]  Yeah, if you did anything to assist him, you could wind up in the pot with him.
[01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  Well, yeah. See, because I think he hasn't said this, but I know he's thinking that if I were to pay him off just by giving him a bag of money
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:49.000]  and then he would sign it over and at least he could say...
[01:06:49.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  Okay, there are ways he can do this. If you write him a check for the property, he can go cash it.
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:07.000]  But if you do anything to assist him, you know, this is criminal.
[01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:17.000]  If you do anything to assist him in this, then you could be an accessory after the fact.
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  Yeah, I would worry about this and I'm sure you want to get along with this guy.
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  He's your landlord or he's the one holding the note, but he's asking you to do something he has no right to involve you in.
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  This is exceptionally inappropriate for him to even let you know that this is occurring.
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  Well, his former partner kind of, you know, kind of a roundabout way, you know, kind of hinted toward that.
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:08:04.000]  And I thought that, you know, from now, you know, because it took a lot of effort to get him to give me a statement, you know,
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  saying what I owed for a long time, he wouldn't say what, he wouldn't give it to me in writing.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:15.000]  I said, here, will you give me a statement, you know, so I can pay it off, you know?
[01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  And then he's like, I don't know, he'd be like, oh, yeah, sure.
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  You know, so he's kind of running from, you know, of course he is, you know what I mean?
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  Yeah, he's, he's done something that he can't now effectively undo without looking at sanctions from the court.
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:44.000]  And family looks at the court, they're not going to be happy with him.
[01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  And you're in, I take it you're in Tarrant County?
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:59.000]  I'm looking at 9-4-0, I'm in the 9-4-0, it's Tarrant and West of Tarrant, Parker, Mize.
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:08.000]  Anyway, if it was Tarrant, you'll probably wind up in, he's probably in the Tarrant County Family Court.
[01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  No, no, maybe not.
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:16.000]  The Tarrant County Family Court, that is so incredibly corrupt.
[01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:21.000]  I mean, if they get a shot at this guy, they would eat him alive.
[01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  If it's out in one of the smaller counties, it may not be as problematic.
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  But if I were you, I'd be, I wouldn't even want to talk to him about this.
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  You know, his problem, not your problem.
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:43.000]  You step into that and you step into his liability and potentially criminal.
[01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.000]  This is embezzlement, big time.
[01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  Well, yeah, well, now he, by the way, he did not suggest that I pay him off in cash.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  You know, I mean, he hasn't said that.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  But I mean, I'm sure he's adding it up that way because how else would I pay him off?
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  Or maybe he'd be better just to sign it over.
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  But see, I don't know, I mean, if he went down there and signed it off and issued me a warrant speed.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  Okay, hold on. Does his wife not know the property exists?
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  Oh, I don't, you know, I don't know what he told her.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  I mean, he, I don't know what she did.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  It is unlikely that somebody is hovering over the public record and going down and looking at what's filed.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  Yeah.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  But that's a risk he takes.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:56.000]  If she, if he were to write you a warranty deed and she had a notion that he had property that he didn't disclose and he was disposing of it.
[01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  All she's got to do is go to Tarrant County, go to whatever county it is and check the record.
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.000]  Yeah.
[01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  And he would just run his name. She'd find it.
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  Yeah.
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  But in that case, you wouldn't be implicated as long as you didn't do anything to assist him.
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  But this would concern me. This is, this is a big deal.
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  Yeah.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  He's talking about getting you involved as an accessory after the factory in Baselman if he asks you to do anything.
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:43.000]  Well, he hasn't, you know, he hasn't asked me to do anything, you know, but yeah.
[01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  It sounds like, it sounds like you're trying to help him out and I understand it. I appreciate that.
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  Well, I don't know what else I would do. I mean, I mean, if, if, because I talked to one of the title companies here, you know, and, and the guy there, he was like, he was like, no, because that could wreck, that could bring your house back into the whole thing.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:09.000]  You know, and.
[01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  Okay. You have, you know, you have a contract on the house. They can't touch your house.
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  Well, if it's in any kind of litigation, you don't have anything to do with that. That doesn't affect you or your contract.
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  Whatever is going on with it, they're bound to the contract.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  It's, you know, say it goes into a court referee and the court referee gets the contract. If you want to pay it off, you can pay it off to referee. Nobody has the judge. They don't have anything to say about that.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  So whatever their problems are, it doesn't affect you.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.000]  Okay.
[01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:10.000]  And if you want to pay it off, if the contract says you can, then you absolutely can. And he'll have to worry about hiding, hiding his embezzled funds.
[01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  If you try to intercede and help him hide his embezzled funds, that could get iffy. So yeah, I would say, you know, this guy made this bet.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:32.000]  You don't owe him anything.
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:41.000]  Even just hinting that he would have a problem, that's inappropriate. You shouldn't know anything about this.
[01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:46.000]  He should take great care to make sure you don't know anything about this.
[01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  So as to keep you from being drawn into any potential problems he has later.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:06.000]  Well, now what he had wanted me to do is to sell the house to him since I want to sell it anyway and sell it to him.
[01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:13.000]  And then I guess, I don't know what that would, I guess that would change, you know.
[01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  If you wanted to sell the house, considering his position, he's likely to give you a good price for it.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  Well, yeah, see right now he didn't have any money because his divorce kind of ended up with taking his money there.
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  He almost certainly doesn't have any credit at this point because you know what divorce lawyers do?
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  You got a divorce lawyer on each side.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  What they're going to do first is look at the party's estate and they're going to calculate how much of that estate they can swallow.
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  And then they're going to start setting the two parties against each other because divorce is always fraught with emotion.
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  People are not acting normally. They're in an incredible amount of stress and they're easy to manipulate.
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  So the first thing the lawyers want to do is set the two parties at one another's throats.
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  And that allows them to do more litigation and they'll keep litigating back and forth until they've exhausted your assets.
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  And then they'll dump you like a hot rock.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  Yeah, they don't want it all done the next day, you know.
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  Yeah, they don't want it done quickly. They're going to draw as much money out of the two parties as they can and then they're going to bring a resolution.
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:57.000]  Not until they've sucked out all the money they can.
[01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  That's pretty vicious, but yeah, it's true.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  Well, on the one hand, you can't blame lawyers. They're in business to make money.
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  That's what they do.
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  And we don't have effective oversight so they don't have a reason not to do this kind of stuff.
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  That's why I'm looking at putting together a lawyer auditing program where we look at the case and audit it and say,
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  this is what they should have done, this is what they didn't do. The guy paid me $6,000 to evaluate a case in Waco.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  The guy had a big insurance company.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  I'll explain what happened when we come back on the other side.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  It was horrible what they did to this guy and he could have stopped him.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Debt Pact Review Radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:25.000]  Okay, we are back, Brandon Kelton, back through the radio,
[01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:29.000]  and we're talking to Boris in Texas.
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:38.000]  I was paid to evaluate a case for a company that would buy your insurance policy,
[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:41.000]  your life insurance policy.
[01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  Most people who buy life insurance policies, the majority, when they get older,
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:51.000]  it's harder to afford it, and they wind up dropping the life insurance policy.
[01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  So this guy came in and he said, I'll buy your policy from you,
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.000]  and I'll pay you so much a month, as long as you live.
[01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  When you pass away, I collect on the life insurance policy.
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  That's so they could use the money in the life insurance policy while they were still alive.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  And he built a really large business.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:15.000]  Well, the insurance companies hated that because people would pay on their life insurance
[01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  for 20, 30 years and didn't run out of money at the end of their life and drop it,
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  so they didn't have to pay off the premiums.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.000]  Well, this guy's buying them.
[01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  Now they have to pay off on all of them.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  So they sent the Taxes Securities Commission after him, and they sued him.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  Well, it's typical with government agencies.
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  They're not very efficient.
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  They accused him of selling securities.
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  He fought him in court, and he beat him.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:50.000]  The Texas court said he was not selling securities.
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  And then the SEC went after him, the Securities Exchange Commission, and they lost.
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  And then the Texas Securities Commission came after him again,
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.000]  and that's when I was brought in.
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  And I looked at it and said, man, this is res judicata.
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  The Texas Securities Commission has came after you
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:19.000]  and got a ruling that says you're not selling securities.
[01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  Now they've come back and filed the same action against you
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:27.000]  in the face of a determination that was already in place.
[01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  They don't have subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  so you need to file a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.000]  Well, he had one of the biggest law firms in the country,
[01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  and they were jerking him around.
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.000]  I went through the pleadings that they filed
[01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  and showed him what was wrong with him.
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  There were three people named in this suit.
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  One of the guys was out of California, and after we had talked,
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:55.000]  he filed a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:59.000]  I just got a letter the other day from the original client.
[01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  It was about his bankruptcy.
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  They put him out of business.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  They almost put him in jail.
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.000]  They destroyed him.
[01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  The guy who challenged subject matter jurisdiction
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:13.000]  got his part tossed out of the court
[01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.000]  because the court agreed with him.
[01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  They didn't have subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:21.000]  This did not take a rocket scientist to figure out.
[01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  The courts, the lawyers are just horrible.
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:33.000]  All this law firm was trying to do was see how much of this guy's
[01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:37.000]  several million-dollar estate they could swallow,
[01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:43.000]  and they wound up charging him $3 million to put him out of business.
[01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  The courts are a mess,
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:53.000]  and this is why I'm putting together this program to start auditing these guys.
[01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  It's always been my purpose to fix the system,
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  and it's beginning to look like one of the best ways to fix the system
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  is through lawyers.
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.000]  The bar is worthless.
[01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  If you file a grievance against a lawyer,
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  the state bar is going to get that grievance,
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.000]  and they're going to throw it in the trash.
[01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  They have sent you this letter that says,
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  we examine into your accusation,
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  find it does not rise to the level of misconduct,
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  no matter what you file.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  Turns out that's a good thing
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  because their insurance company knows you're going to do that,
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  and so how do they gauge your level of risk by filing bar grievances?
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.000]  They have to throw them all in the trash by the numbers.
[01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.000]  You file a bar grievance against a lawyer
[01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.000]  and accuse him of parting his hair on the left.
[01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  They're going to double his malpractice insurance.
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  So there are other things that give us leverage,
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:24:00.000]  and I'm hoping that if we can start doing evaluations of these lawyers,
[01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  especially the family courts.
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  My goodness, the family court was all absolutely the worst.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:13.000]  I was paid to go to Australia and do some seminars down there,
[01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.000]  and when I got to Australia, they picked me up in Sydney Airport,
[01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  and we were heading toward the Sydney Bay Bridge,
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  and there's a guy up on the bridge that's got this huge banner tied up there
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.000]  telling about how corrupt the family courts are
[01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  and his police all over trying to get him down.
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:37.000]  I said, I thought they were only bad in America.
[01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  They said, oh, no, they're the worst here.
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  So family court is the worst everywhere,
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:47.000]  and if that family court finds out he's hit assets,
[01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:54.000]  the lawyers will be upset because they didn't get access to the assets.
[01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  If they knew he had this asset, they'd have kept him in court longer.
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Right.
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.000]  It's unfortunate that things are this bad,
[01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  but we talk about how bad things are,
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.000]  and I guess I should do it somewhat of a disclaimer.
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:19.000]  I read this interpretation of a plaque that was found in the library at Nineveh
[01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  across the Euphrates River from Mosul.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  In 1949, they excavated this mound and found a library buried under this mound,
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:36.000]  and it had plaques going back 6,000 to 6,500 years.
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:43.000]  They found a plaque in there commissioned by an Akkadian king 5,500 years ago,
[01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  and it proclaimed that he was reasserting the old law
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:55.000]  because those in positions of power and influence have so perverted the laws
[01:25:55.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  that the citizen can no longer achieve justice.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:09.000]  If this has been going on for 6,000 years that we know of,
[01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.000]  I guess we shouldn't expect it to stop tomorrow.
[01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  Go back to Jesus.
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:21.000]  Jesus went around preaching what the Jews essentially considered to be heresy,
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  but they didn't care.
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  Saul from Tarsus, before he became Paul,
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:39.000]  asked the Pharisees who were now the rabbis to crucify James and Peter
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.000]  because they were preaching this heresy,
[01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.000]  and the Pharisees said, heck, we don't care what he's preaching.
[01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  Leave him alone.
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.000]  And then Saul had this revelation when he got whacked by lightning,
[01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  and he turned into Paul and changed his position,
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  but when he tried to get James and Peter crucified,
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.000]  the Pharisees said, I don't care what he's preaching.
[01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  He's not hurting anything. Leave him alone.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  Jesus did not get in trouble until he went into the temple
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:19.000]  and kicked over the tables of the money changers.
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  That's when Amanda came after him.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:28.000]  So between the bankers and the lawyers, money's corrupted them all,
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  and the lawyers are, the legal profession is absolutely in the toilet.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:41.000]  We can fix it. We can do something about it.
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:45.000]  We don't have to sue every lawyer in every case,
[01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:49.000]  but if we sue a few lawyers,
[01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:55.000]  if they start seeing evaluations of their cases posted on the Internet,
[01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.000]  and then they wind up with malpractice suits against them,
[01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:03.000]  it won't take many of those for the lawyers to say,
[01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  this is not a cool thing.
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  You know, right now, if you go to a lawyer,
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  his only initial purpose is to get a retainer.
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.000]  He don't want to adjudicate your case.
[01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:20.000]  He wants your retainer, and no matter what case you bring to him,
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  he's going to tell you, you've got a great case.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  Oh, yeah, we can whoop their behinds and win big time.
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  He gets your retainer.
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  Once he's got your retainer, you're not going to get a penny of that back.
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:40.000]  The lawyers on both sides start sending these motions back and forth.
[01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:43.000]  These are standard motions they file in every case.
[01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  They've got them in their folder.
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000]  They just pull them out and change the names on them,
[01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:51.000]  and then charge the client $200 or $300 for producing the motion
[01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:53.000]  they already had produced.
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:57.000]  And that wouldn't be a problem if they were actually adjudicating the case,
[01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  but they're filing a motion in alimony and judging to the motion in alimony,
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  a motion for discovery, an opposition to discovery,
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  a motion to compel, all this back and forth nonsense that doesn't go with it.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  Anything having to do with the adjudication of the case, it's all about using up your retainer.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:22.000]  Once they've used up your retainer, now all of a sudden there are problems.
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  It's not going to be so easy to win this case.
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  Now they want a retainer three times the size of the original,
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  and that's because they really want you to drop them and not pay the retainer
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  so they don't actually have to adjudicate the case.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  When I come back on the other side,
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  I'll explain why lawyers do not want to adjudicate your case.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Vet Pack, Wheelbarrow Radio.
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[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  We live by radio, and we're talking to Boris in Texas.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:38.000]  And I realize, Boris, this really wasn't your issue.
[01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  You were my last caller. The call boards are open.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  If anybody else has a question or comment.
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:52.000]  So I kind of hijacked you on this issue that I'm kind of hot on right now.
[01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  Oh, yeah, that's all right.
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.000]  This is something, you know, I've been doing this show for a long time
[01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  and trying to find a way to fix the system.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  Thirty years ago, 1981, I spent the night in jail for driving the headlight out.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.000]  And that didn't seem right.
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:17.000]  So when I got out, I got out the penal code and the code of criminal procedure, and I read them.
[01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:25.000]  Now I'm an engineer, and I look at the codes as a tech manual.
[01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  This tells you how to do things.
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:33.000]  And I went through them and then looked at the practice and thought,
[01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:37.000]  have I stepped through the looking glass?
[01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:43.000]  How can the code be so dramatically different than the practice?
[01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:47.000]  I felt like I had to have missed something
[01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  because I'd watched Perry Mason and all these guys followed law, right?
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  Long after some 15 years of research, it was clear I had missed a thing.
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:07.000]  The code said what the code said, but what they were doing was dramatically different.
[01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  Every step is presently practiced in the criminal justice system in Texas.
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  It's not only wrong, it is very specifically against particular law.
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:23.000]  It is not just against particular law.
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:28.000]  It's against particular law for a very specific purpose.
[01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  And the purpose is to force every person accused of a crime into taking a deal.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.000]  That's the criminal side.
[01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  On the civil side, it's worse.
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.000]  Your lawyer, his only purpose for the most part is to get your retainer.
[01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  He doesn't make money actively adjudicating your cases.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  He makes money getting retainers.
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  And then he does the standard front-end motions and pleadings back and forth
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  that every case has, that occurs in every case.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:09.000]  And so he just pulls them out of his folder, puts your name on it, and files it.
[01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:11.000]  He didn't have to do any work.
[01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  He makes a lot of money doing that.
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:17.000]  Once that's done, then they come to you.
[01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  Now it's difficult.
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.000]  You may not win.
[01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  It's going to cost a lot of money.
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  I want three times my retainer.
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:27.000]  They really don't want your retainer.
[01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  They want you to fire them so they can go get another retainer.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:36.000]  That's where they make the money, not actively adjudicating cases.
[01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:38.000]  Why?
[01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  It's unfortunate, but that's how it works.
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  If we're going to find justice, we're going to have to take the lawyers to task.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  And if you're going to win a case, one of the things we talk about is you'll never win your case
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:04.000]  To think so is naive.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  The only way you'll win your case is if you have the politics on your side.
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.000]  And all politics is local.
[01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.000]  Okay.
[01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:21.000]  From the perspective of politics, let's forget about facts and law.
[01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:26.000]  We can talk about how it is the duty of the judge to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  and apply the law as it comes to him to the facts in the case, but they never do that.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:34.000]  They rule however they want to.
[01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  It's up to you to try to get their rulings overturned.
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  So how do we fix this?
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:45.000]  Well, everything's political.
[01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  We back up, look at the facts and the law, and compare that to the political climate.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:38:03.000]  How can we use the facts and the law in conjunction with some other things we can do to create a political situation
[01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  where the court will want us out of their jurisdiction to go away and leave them alone
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:15.000]  and they'll pressure the lawyers to make us a deal to get rid of us?
[01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  Courts hate pro se litigants.
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  They don't hate pro se litigants because they write stupid bleedings.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  They like that part, it's easy to screw them around.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.000]  The courts hate pro se litigants because every once in a while
[01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  they come across one that we like to call the pro se from hell,
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  the one who understands that everything is political.
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:51.000]  And because it's political, we look around and say, okay, where is everybody's weak spot?
[01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:53.000]  What hurts them?
[01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:58.000]  Lawyers is bar grievances, judges is judicial conduct complaints,
[01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  police officers is professional conduct complaints.
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  I just got an email today and had a story in it about a town in Pennsylvania
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  who received so many complaints against their two police officers
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  that their bonding company increased their weight tenfold.
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:33.000]  They couldn't pay if they had to fire the police department.
[01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  I thought, hallelujah, we can't get these guys to follow law directly.
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  So one of our best tools are their insurance carriers.
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:56.000]  We start filing with them and if you're a lawyer,
[01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  if one bar grievance is your first year of practice, they'll cancel immediately.
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:07.000]  One bar grievance any time after that, they'll WML practice insurance.
[01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  Two bar grievances any one year of practice.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  They'll cancel if you've been with them for 20 years, they cancel.
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  You become a bad risk.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  Three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  Now that is patently unfair and abusive to lawyers.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:27.000]  Poor babies, life is tough.
[01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  That's what you get for stacking the deck in the state bar association.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  So we start filing judicial conduct complaints against the judge.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:42.000]  Now I know you go into court and you want the judge to rule in your favor.
[01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  Forget about it.
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  The judge is going to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  Okay, maybe he won't, but it behooves you to conduct yourself
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  as if the judge will rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  That way you more effectively adjudicate your case.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.000]  And then when he does rule against you, you don't care.
[01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:16.000]  Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:22.000]  So all you want to do is get the facts and the law onto the record.
[01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  What the judge rules, who cares?
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  And once you get that down, once you understand that part, they figure it out.
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  Especially pro-says, it's really easy to get a pro-say hopping mad
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:48.000]  and jumping up and down and ranting and raving and railing in righteous indignation.
[01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  Unless he is the pro-say from hell.
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  Unless he is the pro-say who has the expectation that the court
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  will rule against him out of hand at every turn.
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  He don't care because all he's doing is getting the facts and the law on the record.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000]  And he understands that you never ask a public official to do anything
[01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:15.000]  you actually want him to do because you never ask a public official
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:18.000]  to do anything that the law does not require him to do.
[01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:21.000]  And then when he doesn't do it, you get to clobber him.
[01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:25.000]  If he's a judge, you get to file a judicial conduct complaint against him
[01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.000]  and let the judge explain to the state commission on judicial conduct
[01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  why he's done what he's done, what he's done.
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:36.000]  Now the state commission on judicial conduct is not going to sanction an elected judge
[01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:40.000]  or a county judge or district judge.
[01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:44.000]  JPs or inferior court judges and municipal court judges,
[01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:50.000]  they'll hammer them to make it look like they're actually doing something.
[01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:52.000]  But that's not the important part.
[01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:57.000]  The important part is it raises their bond rating.
[01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:00.000]  If the bond rating is high enough, the judge can't get bonded.
[01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000]  Bonding is a requirement of holding office.
[01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:06.000]  That's how you get rid of bad judges.
[01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:10.000]  But when you start filing judicial conduct complaints against a judge,
[01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  he is going to be real unhappy.
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:18.000]  But you think that he'll rule against you because he's unhappy.
[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:22.000]  No, he's more likely to rule in your favor because he's unhappy
[01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:25.000]  because you're stinging him professionally.
[01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.000]  We can do this. Lawyers can't do this.
[01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:33.000]  But you and I, as pro-states from hell, we can do this.
[01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.000]  The judge gets mad at me, I don't care.
[01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000]  He's going to rule against me anyway.
[01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.000]  So big deal.
[01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  I'll see if I can get you off the bench first.
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:46.000]  Hang on, I'll explain why that's important when we come back.
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:50.000]  Randy Kelton, that pack, Rule of Law Radio, we're going to our last segment.
[01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:55.000]  We'll even give out the calling number.
[01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:00.000]  So we'll finish this dissertation on the other side.
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[01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:25.000]  Randy Kelton, Vet Pack, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.000]  And I'm going through this kind of fast.
[01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:33.000]  I probably need to do two hours on this issue.
[01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:36.000]  In doing radio, you know, I'm speaking to a microphone.
[01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  I can't see who I'm talking to.
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:47.000]  So we have to craft our language well to transmit an understanding from us to our listeners.
[01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.000]  This is an incredibly powerful understanding that I've come to,
[01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  and I've struggled to find a way to get it to make sense to other people.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:01.000]  Why you don't care if the judge likes you or not?
[01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:05.000]  Why you don't care if your own lawyer is upset at you?
[01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  Who cares?
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:13.000]  The more angry they are at you, the more they want to get rid of you.
[01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:17.000]  And the best way to get rid of you is to give you what you want.
[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  We had a woman in Colorado.
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:27.000]  She called in complaining about the federal judge and the opposing counsel,
[01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:34.000]  and we got her to bargrieve the lawyers and judicial conduct complaint the judge.
[01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:39.000]  Twenty-six bar grievances, six judicial conduct complaints later.
[01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  We went into court, and the judge told them that it was in the afternoon.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  It was one o'clock or so.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  He said, you two can have this courtroom.
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  I'm leaving.
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  It's yours all afternoon.
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  And he turned to the lawyers and he said,
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  but when I come back tomorrow, you will have made Ms. Burton an offer.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.000]  She cannot refuse.
[01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  I do not want to see her face in my courtroom again.
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  Do I make myself clear?
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:17.000]  That's how it works in the real world I live in.
[01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:20.000]  That's how politics works.
[01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.000]  We start judicial conduct complaint the judge.
[01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:29.000]  Regardless of whether it's valid or invalid, it puts a mark on his record.
[01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  And every district judge aspires to be on the court of appeals.
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  But they start looking for an appellate court judge.
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:42.000]  They look at this judge and he's got five or six judicial conduct complaints,
[01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  and these other judges don't have any.
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  He has history.
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:53.000]  These things, bar grievances, judicial conduct complaints, malpractice suits,
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  it hurts them big time.
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  Now, they're not ever going to tell you how bad you hurt them
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:05.000]  because they don't want you to know Ken Magnuson.
[01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  I have him on on occasion.
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  Early in his legal reform career, he had a lawyer.
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  The lawyer screwed him around.
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.000]  He bar-grieved him.
[01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:19.000]  Five or six years later, he's an election judge.
[01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  And another election judge was the head of a law firm
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  that this lawyer Ken grieved was trying to become a partner in the firm.
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  And Ken recognized the guy's name,
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  so he told him who he was and about this lawyer and what happened.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  And he said, I filed a bar grievance, but it didn't do any good.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  He said this lawyer leaned across the table and said, Mr. Magnuson,
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  you hurt him far more than you can imagine.
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:56.000]  And that was when we got the first clue.
[01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:03.000]  Oh, he didn't get the partnership in the law firm.
[01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  You get two or three bar grievances against you.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  There's no law firm in the country that will pick you up.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  Because if they do and you get a client that's unhappy with the lawyer,
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  she's going to say, well, look at this.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  They hired this lawyer.
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:21.000]  It's got all these bar grievances against it.
[01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:22.000]  It goes bad for them.
[01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  This is a really big deal for lawyers.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  Here's the conduct complaints, really big deal for judges.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  So we need to understand it's all about politics,
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:38.000]  and those two create a lot of politics.
[01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:45.000]  Going to court is like sitting down at a four-sided chessboard.
[01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  You go into court, you've got your lawyer to your right,
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:53.000]  opposing counsel to your left, the judge is across from you.
[01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  You have a relationship with your lawyer.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:00.000]  Your lawyer has a relationship with opposing counsel
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.000]  because they're across from each other all the time,
[01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:05.000]  and he has a relationship with the judge.
[01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:07.000]  Both of them do.
[01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.000]  You're the odd man out.
[01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:15.000]  If you're going to win your case, you've got to get into these relationships.
[01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:21.000]  And you can use these relationships to your benefit.
[01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  You start hammering your lawyer.
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  You bar-grieve him, and then when he tries to withdraw from the case,
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  you go in and object to it.
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.000]  And we've had people do that, and it works every time.
[01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.000]  We just had someone in a bankruptcy proceeding,
[01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  try to get their lawyer to file documents because I was evaluating the case
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  and telling them what they should be filing.
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  They give them to the lawyer.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:49.000]  The lawyer refused to file it.
[01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:53.000]  So she bar-grieved him, her own lawyer.
[01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  He asked the court to be removed from the case.
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  They had a hearing.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:00.000]  She went in and said, don't you dare remove him from my case.
[01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.000]  He's my lawyer.
[01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  And the judge said, well, Ms. Ortiz, if you can't get along with your lawyer,
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  why do you want him on your case?
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.000]  Because I paid him.
[01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:14.000]  He's under contract.
[01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  And the judge turned to the lawyer and said, sorry, counselor,
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000]  you're going to have to work this out with your client.
[01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  You see, the judge can't allow the lawyer to withdraw unless the client agrees to it.
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  So the first thing you do, excuse the expression,
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  is you grab your lawyer by the testicles and you squeeze good and hard.
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  And then when he tries to get away, you don't let him.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  Say, now, Bubba, let's get to work.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  What that does, it gives your lawyer plausible deniability.
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Now the lawyer can go back to the judge and the attorney on the other side
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  and say, guys, you got to help me out here.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  I got this horrible client that's going to ruin my career.
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.000]  You guys got to help me out.
[01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:09.000]  I'll pay you back on the next case.
[01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:13.000]  Plausible deniability, give them a reason to get rid of you.
[01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  The only way to get rid of you is to give you what you want.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  We can do this.
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:25.000]  If we start doing this, I'm going to start doing audits of cases.
[01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:27.000]  I'll do an audit of the case before you start.
[01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:32.000]  Then you go to your lawyer and you know what your lawyer should be doing for you.
[01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:35.000]  And I'll show you how to kick his behind when he don't.
[01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:39.000]  If a case has already been finished, we go in and audit the case
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:43.000]  and we show all of the things the lawyer should have done but didn't do.
[01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.000]  Once he's used up your retainer, he's not going to do anything.
[01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:50.000]  So you go in and you sue the lawyer for malpractice.
[01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  Now, this is the fun part.
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  You sue the lawyer for malpractice.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  If you've ever been in an auto accident and been sued for the accident,
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  they sue you, but your insurance carrier brings in the lawyer.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  And then the lawyer don't pay any attention to you.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  He's your lawyer, but he's really there to protect the insurance company.
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  He don't care about you.
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  He'll throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:21.000]  When a lawyer gets sued for malpractice, same way.
[01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  He doesn't represent himself.
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  The insurance company sends in a lawyer to represent him.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:27.000]  And they don't care about this lawyer.
[01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  They throw him under the bus in a heartbeat.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  They want to get the best deal they can give from you.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  Now you get the insurance carrier to come to you and make a deal,
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  and this goes against the lawyer.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  They will tuck him under the bus and won't think anything of it.
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:52.000]  So we take what lawyers have been doing and we turn it back on them.
[01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:57.000]  We start doing to them what they've been doing to us.
[01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  We start taking them to task on their bad behavior.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  When we start suing lawyers, and when I do these evaluations,
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  my output document, my report will be a lawsuit, a malpractice suit.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:21.000]  All you have to do is change the business heading to a court heading,
[01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:28.000]  add a prayer, sign and send, and verify it, take it and file it,
[01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  and you've got a lawsuit going.
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000]  And here's the deal.
[01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  You may not have enough facts and claims to win your case.
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:42.000]  Who cares?
[01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.000]  Lawyers don't care when they sue.
[01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:48.000]  All they want to do is make a deal.
[01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  So we don't care.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:54.000]  We'll sue you, malpractice carrier,
[01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:56.000]  and we'll make a deal with you, malpractice carrier.
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:59.000]  Oh, kind of wreck your professional career?
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:02.000]  Sorry, Bubba, life isn't tough.
[01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:06.000]  You shouldn't have been screwing every client that you come across
[01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:10.000]  to the point that 20% of all cases are now represented pro se
[01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:14.000]  because people can't trust us to afford lawyers.
[01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:17.000]  I had a friend who had a court appointed counsel
[01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  and he was knowledgeable.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.000]  The lawyer didn't want to file his pleadings
[01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  and finally just lost his cool and told him,
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  look, you don't understand.
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:33.000]  My only purpose here is to make sure you don't have grounds for appeal.
[01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  Court appointed counsel are there to screw you.
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:39.000]  So is your defense counsel in a criminal case.
[01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.000]  They're not going to do anything to annoy that judge
[01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:44.000]  because if they do, the judge can sanction them.
[01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:47.000]  Anything he wants to, there's no limit on sanctions.
[01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  The judge can jerk a lawyer's bar card at the drop of a hat.
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:59.000]  When you go in as a pro se, you're not dangling by your bar card.
[01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  You go in as the master of these public servants.
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  And if they forget that you're the master,
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  we will show you how to remind them that you're the master.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:16.000]  If I get two bad words I don't like out of a judge,
[01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  then I'm going to ask him to get out off the bench.
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  I get a police officer pull me over.
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:24.000]  I get two words from him I don't like.
[01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:27.000]  I don't tell him that you can't talk to me that way
[01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  and I got rights and blah, blah, blah.
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  I take out my cell phone dial 911, ask the dispatcher,
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.000]  send somebody down here to arrest this guy.
[01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  He is agitated and he's prominently displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  I'm afraid for my life, get somebody down here to arrest him.
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  That attitude on that police officer goes away really, really fast.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  The first time you ask a judge to get down off the bench
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  or ask a bait if to drag him off the bench, his attitude changes quickly.
[01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.000]  There's a lot we can do, guys.
[01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:06.000]  And we've been a number of years trying to find solutions
[01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:11.000]  and we're beginning to think that suing lawyers may be the final solution.
[01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  When the lawyer is more afraid of his client than he is the judge,
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  then we'll start getting good representation.
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:20.000]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  This is Randy Kelvin, Vet Pack, Wheel of the Radio.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:27.000]  Thank you, Boris, for hanging in there with me.
[01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.000]  Did all of this make sense to you?
[01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  Yeah.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  Because I'm never sure. I'm talking to microphones.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:38.000]  I'm not sure how people are responding.
[01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:39.000]  But I do my best.
[01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  We'll be back next Thursday and then Friday.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  Thank you all for listening and good night.
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