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[04:06.000 --> 04:17.000]  Okay, howdy, howdy. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, on this, the 14th day of July, 2016.
[04:17.000 --> 04:24.000]  We're halfway through another year already, and it's frightening how fast these are going.
[04:24.000 --> 04:31.000]  We do have a caller from, Oliver from Tennessee, but he hasn't been screened yet, so we'll pick him up in a minute.
[04:31.000 --> 04:46.000]  I have been doing some interesting research. I came across a case on the foreclosure issue that seems to give us,
[04:46.000 --> 04:53.000]  well, it lends support to a direction that I've been taking for quite a while,
[04:53.000 --> 05:03.000]  and that is instead of going after these standard securitizations, split the note indeed of trust,
[05:03.000 --> 05:13.000]  and show me the note arguments and complaints about MERS, which I believe are all issues that the banks put in front of us,
[05:13.000 --> 05:20.000]  so we would chase those because they were the hardest issues to prove up and adjudicate,
[05:20.000 --> 05:28.000]  that something much easier and less complex is contractual violations.
[05:28.000 --> 05:38.000]  And I was reading through some cases, doing research for an appeal out of New York that I was writing for a fellow,
[05:38.000 --> 05:59.000]  and came across a case where they claimed that a violation of the housing and urban development rules and laws amounted to a violation of the deed of trust.
[05:59.000 --> 06:08.000]  And this is exactly one of the arguments that we've been bringing that under Covenant 16, it's either 15 or 16, most of the time it's 16,
[06:08.000 --> 06:14.000]  it's the applicable law and severability covenant.
[06:14.000 --> 06:19.000]  It's the covenant that says if anything in this contract is in violation of any law,
[06:19.000 --> 06:25.000]  then that portion of the contract is void without voiding the rest of the contract.
[06:25.000 --> 06:32.000]  And in that covenant, both parties also agree to abide by all relevant law.
[06:32.000 --> 06:50.000]  And this was the first case I had come across where the courts ruled that violations of laws relating to the mortgage instrument did in fact violate the covenant of the deed of trust.
[06:50.000 --> 06:57.000]  I'm researching that out, that will make a very interesting argument to start bringing in the courts.
[06:57.000 --> 07:06.000]  And I'm working on, I'm studying Rule 12b6 and how to beat Rule 12b6.
[07:06.000 --> 07:20.000]  I had one of my motions to reconsider in the New York Supreme Court, the Supreme Court is a lower court in New York.
[07:20.000 --> 07:32.000]  I had one of those tossed and I used the memorandum that the court provided and ripped to shreds.
[07:32.000 --> 07:49.000]  And I'm trying to use that to construct exactly how to file an opposition to a Rule 12 or exactly how to write a pleading so that you get around the Rule 12b6 dismissals.
[07:49.000 --> 07:55.000]  Anybody who's tried to sue the either state or Fed, if you sue in the state, no matter what,
[07:55.000 --> 08:02.000]  they will remove it to the Fed and the Fed will take jurisdiction no matter what, if you're pro se.
[08:02.000 --> 08:09.000]  And then the other side will follow Rule 12b6, the judge will dismiss it no matter what.
[08:09.000 --> 08:18.000]  So I'm trying to get a pleading that while the trial judge will dismiss it, we may get it.
[08:18.000 --> 08:23.000]  And once we get it past the trial judge to the court of appeals, we may actually get that thing.
[08:23.000 --> 08:26.000]  The trial judge's dismissal overturned.
[08:26.000 --> 08:27.000]  Okay.
[08:27.000 --> 08:29.000]  We do have a caller, Oliver from Tennessee.
[08:29.000 --> 08:31.000]  Hello, Oliver.
[08:31.000 --> 08:34.000]  What do you have for us today?
[08:34.000 --> 08:36.000]  How you doing?
[08:36.000 --> 08:41.000]  Well, I got my lawsuit pretty much written up.
[08:41.000 --> 08:44.000]  I was investigating, looking at different ways.
[08:44.000 --> 08:54.000]  And I realized, I decided that to have a, because I had a car and a property that was involved,
[08:54.000 --> 08:56.000]  I mean cars and property.
[08:56.000 --> 09:06.000]  And I looked underneath the action to recover property and exclusively said that this action is not limited
[09:06.000 --> 09:13.000]  to any other actions that can be brought because of the action, I mean of the offense that occurred.
[09:13.000 --> 09:25.000]  This action is to be brought to recover action and is not limiting to other further actions as far as limited
[09:25.000 --> 09:31.000]  to the statute of limitations as long as you come in and file it within the statute of limitations act.
[09:31.000 --> 09:41.000]  So they're saying this is a private cause of action or a specific cause of action that's separate
[09:41.000 --> 09:51.000]  from any other claims like, you know, if they cost you money or defamed you or whatever.
[09:51.000 --> 09:59.000]  If I can sue them in another aspect of it, I still have the right to do that,
[09:59.000 --> 10:02.000]  even though I sued and recovered my property.
[10:02.000 --> 10:09.000]  They're saying that when you get harm, when you get a remuneration for your harm,
[10:09.000 --> 10:18.000]  when you get made whole for this claim, this being made whole here doesn't bar any other claims
[10:18.000 --> 10:24.000]  because they would say, well, he already was made whole in that other suit so he can't make this claim.
[10:24.000 --> 10:28.000]  And this is making a distinction that you certainly can make.
[10:28.000 --> 10:30.000]  That's a good, that's wonderful.
[10:30.000 --> 10:32.000]  That means you get to sue them again.
[10:32.000 --> 10:33.000]  Right, right.
[10:33.000 --> 10:40.000]  And underneath the same, I have to reword it, but underneath the same, underneath the same thing.
[10:40.000 --> 10:46.000]  So my issue is now, now I forgot, I get to sue them twice.
[10:46.000 --> 10:54.000]  How do, like, when you use the summons, when you summons the city, who do you send the summons to?
[10:54.000 --> 11:02.000]  Because I figured out how to write out the claim and I wanted to get your email address and send it to you so I could see it.
[11:02.000 --> 11:11.000]  Okay, my email is Randy, R-E-N-D-Y at ruleoflawradio.com.
[11:11.000 --> 11:18.000]  But who you serve, generally you would have either the mayor or the city manager.
[11:18.000 --> 11:24.000]  You can call the city secretary and tell her you have service to be filed on the city.
[11:24.000 --> 11:26.000]  Who do you want to receive service?
[11:26.000 --> 11:29.000]  And they'll tell you.
[11:29.000 --> 11:33.000]  You said call who?
[11:33.000 --> 11:44.000]  Yeah, just call the city and get any of the secretaries and ask them who receives service for the city.
[11:44.000 --> 11:50.000]  And they'll give you a place to send it and that will be bona fide.
[11:50.000 --> 11:52.000]  Once you send it there, they can't complain.
[11:52.000 --> 11:58.000]  Actually, I was reading a case today as well on service.
[11:58.000 --> 12:12.000]  And this was a lender that had a special address to send QWRs, the qualified written request.
[12:12.000 --> 12:26.000]  That address was separate from its other addresses and this plaintiff sent a QWR to the address on the spilling statement.
[12:26.000 --> 12:31.000]  And then when they filed a suit based on failure to answer the QWR,
[12:31.000 --> 12:34.000]  the other side claimed that they didn't send it to the right address.
[12:34.000 --> 12:37.000]  And the court upheld that.
[12:37.000 --> 12:38.000]  Right.
[12:38.000 --> 12:41.000]  So that means we've got to be careful.
[12:41.000 --> 12:48.000]  Always contact the litigant and ask them where they want to be served.
[12:48.000 --> 12:51.000]  Contact who?
[12:51.000 --> 13:00.000]  I guess that's why I'm kind of – because I'm suing the city, I've included the mayor in there as far as administration.
[13:00.000 --> 13:06.000]  It's like the 1983 suit that I found where I could fit her in and other people.
[13:06.000 --> 13:11.000]  So you sued the mayor as respondee at Superior.
[13:11.000 --> 13:12.000]  Right.
[13:12.000 --> 13:18.000]  But I'm not trying to sue her in her personal capacity, I guess.
[13:18.000 --> 13:20.000]  I just want to say the city court.
[13:20.000 --> 13:21.000]  Yes.
[13:21.000 --> 13:29.000]  So when you sue a governmental entity, you generally name the head of the agency.
[13:29.000 --> 13:35.000]  But it's not really – the courts have said this is not a suit against the person.
[13:35.000 --> 13:40.000]  It's a suit against the agency.
[13:40.000 --> 13:45.000]  So the mayor won't take that personal.
[13:45.000 --> 13:48.000]  So are you saying I should send it to the mayor?
[13:48.000 --> 13:50.000]  Should I get it sent to the mayor?
[13:50.000 --> 13:51.000]  No.
[13:51.000 --> 13:56.000]  I'm saying call the city and ask them who receives service for them.
[13:56.000 --> 13:57.000]  Call the city.
[13:57.000 --> 13:58.000]  Okay.
[13:58.000 --> 13:59.000]  I understand.
[13:59.000 --> 14:13.000]  Sometimes if you're suing an entity, like if you're suing one of the lenders, like in California, they have companies that all they do is receive service.
[14:13.000 --> 14:18.000]  It's a separate company, different address than the lender.
[14:18.000 --> 14:21.000]  But this is a company that receives service for the lender.
[14:21.000 --> 14:31.000]  This way they don't have constables marching into their offices with their badges and guns and waving paperwork around.
[14:31.000 --> 14:34.000]  They take it to a separate company.
[14:34.000 --> 14:41.000]  So sometimes it's always best to contact the defendant and ask them where they want to be served.
[14:41.000 --> 14:47.000]  The defendant, so should I call the insurance company that denied the claim?
[14:47.000 --> 14:50.000]  Yes.
[14:50.000 --> 14:53.000]  And ask them where they're served?
[14:53.000 --> 14:54.000]  Yeah.
[14:54.000 --> 14:58.000]  Where do you receive service or lawsuits?
[14:58.000 --> 15:08.000]  And they'll tell you because they get that stuff all the time, especially insurance companies.
[15:08.000 --> 15:09.000]  Okay.
[15:09.000 --> 15:11.000]  So am I suing this?
[15:11.000 --> 15:12.000]  And another question.
[15:12.000 --> 15:19.000]  That's a good, because now that the, I got a little saying that the insurance company said that Cargisville did not break any laws.
[15:19.000 --> 15:30.000]  And from talking to them, they're telling me that their procedures are calculating damage or wrong is by the laws and the statutes.
[15:30.000 --> 15:36.000]  So now can I sue the insurance company also for, let's say?
[15:36.000 --> 15:38.000]  No.
[15:38.000 --> 15:42.000]  You don't have a claim against the insurance company.
[15:42.000 --> 15:45.000]  The insurance company didn't insure you.
[15:45.000 --> 15:47.000]  They insured the city.
[15:47.000 --> 15:51.000]  So their only obligation is to the city.
[15:51.000 --> 15:52.000]  Exactly.
[15:52.000 --> 15:54.000]  Oh, the only obligation is to the city.
[15:54.000 --> 16:01.000]  So if the city is at fault for something and the insurance company said, well, they're not at fault.
[16:01.000 --> 16:06.000]  Well, the insurance company just denies the claim, but you don't care what they do.
[16:06.000 --> 16:09.000]  They're not denying the claim to you.
[16:09.000 --> 16:13.000]  They're denying the claim to the city.
[16:13.000 --> 16:19.000]  So if the insurance company pays, then the insurance company doesn't have to risk going to court.
[16:19.000 --> 16:22.000]  But they don't seem to mind going to court.
[16:22.000 --> 16:24.000]  So you just go ahead and sue them.
[16:24.000 --> 16:36.000]  Once you sue them, there's a good chance, depending on how good your suit is, a good chance they may come back and then try to make you a settlement off.
[16:36.000 --> 16:37.000]  Okay.
[16:37.000 --> 16:38.000]  Hang on.
[16:38.000 --> 16:40.000]  About to put a break.
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[19:22.000 --> 19:27.000]  Okay.
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[19:29.000 --> 19:31.000]  Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[19:31.000 --> 19:40.000]  And on this Thursday, the 14th day of July, 2016, and we're talking to Oliver in Tennessee.
[19:40.000 --> 19:41.000]  Okay.
[19:41.000 --> 19:42.000]  Go ahead, Oliver.
[19:42.000 --> 19:43.000]  All right.
[19:43.000 --> 19:44.000]  I got you.
[19:44.000 --> 19:46.000]  So what you're saying is I'm suing, right?
[19:46.000 --> 19:52.000]  When you sue the city, you're actually suing who insures the city.
[19:52.000 --> 19:53.000]  No.
[19:53.000 --> 19:55.000]  You're suing the city.
[19:55.000 --> 19:56.000]  Right.
[19:56.000 --> 19:59.000]  You don't, you're not, people want to sue insurance companies.
[19:59.000 --> 20:03.000]  You can't sue the insurance company unless it's your insurance company.
[20:03.000 --> 20:08.000]  If you paid for insurance and they deny a claim, then you would sue them.
[20:08.000 --> 20:10.000]  But when you sue the city...
[20:10.000 --> 20:11.000]  The insured.
[20:11.000 --> 20:16.000]  The city indemnifies, your insurance company indemnifies the city.
[20:16.000 --> 20:23.000]  So if the city leases in court, then the insurance company is supposed to come and pay off.
[20:23.000 --> 20:27.000]  If they don't pay off, then the city would sue the insurance company.
[20:27.000 --> 20:29.000]  You would not have a claim against them.
[20:29.000 --> 20:31.000]  Your claim is against the city.
[20:31.000 --> 20:32.000]  Okay.
[20:32.000 --> 20:33.000]  I understand.
[20:33.000 --> 20:34.000]  All right.
[20:34.000 --> 20:35.000]  Now I understand.
[20:35.000 --> 20:36.000]  All right.
[20:36.000 --> 20:37.000]  So I'm expressing the wrong view.
[20:37.000 --> 20:38.000]  All right.
[20:38.000 --> 20:39.000]  So I'm trying to trace the address.
[20:39.000 --> 20:48.000]  So the insurance company would tell me what address to send my summons to.
[20:48.000 --> 20:51.000]  Are you summoning the insurance company?
[20:51.000 --> 20:52.000]  Not summons.
[20:52.000 --> 20:53.000]  No, the city.
[20:53.000 --> 20:54.000]  Okay.
[20:54.000 --> 21:02.000]  Then why would you go to the insurance company to find out where to serve the city?
[21:02.000 --> 21:10.000]  Everywhere else I've called around really, as long as the insurance company gave me good
[21:10.000 --> 21:13.000]  information about the process.
[21:13.000 --> 21:17.000]  They're not the city, so they don't necessarily...
[21:17.000 --> 21:23.000]  Their statement of where to send service would not be authoritative.
[21:23.000 --> 21:29.000]  If you contact the city and the city tells you where to send service, that would be authoritative.
[21:29.000 --> 21:35.000]  Say you talk to the insurance company and they say, oh, send that over here to the city
[21:35.000 --> 21:36.000]  manager's office.
[21:36.000 --> 21:40.000]  So you send it to the city manager's office and they don't respond.
[21:40.000 --> 21:42.000]  So you petition for default judgment.
[21:42.000 --> 21:45.000]  When you get default judgment and they get notice of the default, they're going to say,
[21:45.000 --> 21:47.000]  wait a minute, we weren't served.
[21:47.000 --> 21:48.000]  Okay.
[21:48.000 --> 21:49.000]  So contact the mayor's office.
[21:49.000 --> 21:52.000]  You're going to say, well, the insurance company told me to send it there, and the
[21:52.000 --> 21:55.000]  courts are going to say, sorry, Bubba.
[21:55.000 --> 21:56.000]  Okay.
[21:56.000 --> 21:58.000]  So contact the mayor's office.
[21:58.000 --> 21:59.000]  Yeah.
[21:59.000 --> 22:00.000]  Okay.
[22:00.000 --> 22:06.000]  Since you are the master, I always like to go to the top.
[22:06.000 --> 22:12.000]  When I go to a corporation, I always want to talk to the president.
[22:12.000 --> 22:15.000]  I don't want to talk to these guys down on the bottom.
[22:15.000 --> 22:18.000]  If I talk to the city, I want to talk to the mayor.
[22:18.000 --> 22:22.000]  I'm restricted from talking to him.
[22:22.000 --> 22:25.000]  No, no, no.
[22:25.000 --> 22:27.000]  You're not restricted from talking to him.
[22:27.000 --> 22:32.000]  You're only restricted from discussing the case with him.
[22:32.000 --> 22:33.000]  Okay.
[22:33.000 --> 22:35.000]  And you're not even restricted there.
[22:35.000 --> 22:39.000]  He may be restricted, but you're not.
[22:39.000 --> 22:42.000]  Okay.
[22:42.000 --> 22:43.000]  All right.
[22:43.000 --> 22:44.000]  So thank you for that part.
[22:44.000 --> 22:45.000]  One more thing.
[22:45.000 --> 22:51.000]  You know about the situation that's been going on with the cops and people and racists killing
[22:51.000 --> 22:53.000]  cops and all that good stuff.
[22:53.000 --> 23:01.000]  It's very distressing and I understand how to fix it.
[23:01.000 --> 23:05.000]  And it's not a cop issue.
[23:05.000 --> 23:06.000]  It's not the policeman.
[23:06.000 --> 23:08.000]  It's training issue.
[23:08.000 --> 23:10.000]  Oh, I mean, yeah, I understand that aspect too.
[23:10.000 --> 23:16.000]  And that's why, because I understand that aspect, I was going because the way that they
[23:16.000 --> 23:20.000]  came about to be on my property and do all these things that they thought they had the
[23:20.000 --> 23:21.000]  right to.
[23:21.000 --> 23:22.000]  I apologize.
[23:22.000 --> 23:26.000]  I thought you were speaking to the shootings of police.
[23:26.000 --> 23:27.000]  No, no, I am.
[23:27.000 --> 23:28.000]  I am.
[23:28.000 --> 23:29.000]  I am.
[23:29.000 --> 23:31.000]  It's the same concept.
[23:31.000 --> 23:34.000]  They are taught.
[23:34.000 --> 23:38.000]  They are trained in the same way to where they run into situations which they shouldn't
[23:38.000 --> 23:40.000]  have been in the first place.
[23:40.000 --> 23:50.000]  Well, I was listening to a program the other day and the speaker was a city councilman,
[23:50.000 --> 23:56.000]  I think for the city of Austin, and he was saying, we simply don't have enough police
[23:56.000 --> 23:57.000]  officers.
[23:57.000 --> 24:03.000]  He's saying that a police officer may handle 15 to 20 calls a day.
[24:03.000 --> 24:10.000]  He goes in emergency mode from one emergency situation to the next, the next, and the next,
[24:10.000 --> 24:11.000]  the next.
[24:11.000 --> 24:21.000]  And it's hard for the policeman to shift gears into getting along with the public mode because
[24:21.000 --> 24:24.000]  he handles one crisis after another.
[24:24.000 --> 24:25.000]  Right.
[24:25.000 --> 24:27.000]  And I thought about that.
[24:27.000 --> 24:35.000]  I was in combat and I understand how adrenaline works.
[24:35.000 --> 24:38.000]  Adrenaline gets you cranked.
[24:38.000 --> 24:41.000]  And if you're not careful, you get addicted to it.
[24:41.000 --> 24:45.000]  And I see cops that are clearly addicted to adrenaline.
[24:45.000 --> 24:48.000]  They need to rush.
[24:48.000 --> 24:55.000]  When I came back from overseas, it was several years before I got, began to get control of
[24:55.000 --> 24:56.000]  that.
[24:56.000 --> 24:59.000]  And I see these policemen and I can see that in them.
[24:59.000 --> 25:04.000]  And they're going from one emergency to another, to another, to another.
[25:04.000 --> 25:12.000]  And then when they meet someone or interact with someone where it's not an emergency, it's
[25:12.000 --> 25:17.000]  sometimes, it's hard for them to come down.
[25:17.000 --> 25:18.000]  I couldn't be a policeman.
[25:18.000 --> 25:23.000]  I know that I don't have the temperament for it.
[25:23.000 --> 25:27.000]  It's a very difficult job.
[25:27.000 --> 25:32.000]  What we need is a different kind of training.
[25:32.000 --> 25:39.000]  Our policemen are trained to consider us civilians in an occupied country.
[25:39.000 --> 25:42.000]  And they are the occupiers.
[25:42.000 --> 25:51.000]  I was in a country where we were the occupiers and the indigenous population were the civilians.
[25:51.000 --> 25:59.000]  And I do not want my police thinking of me as a civilian.
[25:59.000 --> 26:00.000]  We are not civilians.
[26:00.000 --> 26:02.000]  We are the masters.
[26:02.000 --> 26:05.000]  They are the servants.
[26:05.000 --> 26:08.000]  We need to let them know that.
[26:08.000 --> 26:15.000]  So if we're going to fix this, we need to go after who is training these people.
[26:15.000 --> 26:24.000]  Who is telling these people that you are an occupier, that you must get absolute immediate
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  obedience instantly.
[26:26.000 --> 26:28.000]  Otherwise your life is in danger.
[26:28.000 --> 26:31.000]  That's what they feel like.
[26:31.000 --> 26:37.000]  Any time a policeman asks me something and I don't answer his question immediately the
[26:37.000 --> 26:44.000]  way he wants me to, instinctively his hand goes to his pistol.
[26:44.000 --> 26:47.000]  That is frightening.
[26:47.000 --> 26:51.000]  I've asked more than one officer to take his hand off his pistol.
[26:51.000 --> 26:56.000]  And if he doesn't, I call 911 immediately.
[26:56.000 --> 26:58.000]  It's part of the training.
[26:58.000 --> 27:02.000]  I'm trying to train the officer.
[27:02.000 --> 27:05.000]  He claims he fears for his life.
[27:05.000 --> 27:10.000]  When you put your hand on your pistol while you're talking to me, I definitely fear for
[27:10.000 --> 27:11.000]  my life.
[27:11.000 --> 27:13.000]  So I want you to get that hand away from that.
[27:13.000 --> 27:16.000]  I consider that aggravated assault.
[27:16.000 --> 27:22.000]  And we as the individuals, we need to train our police.
[27:22.000 --> 27:32.000]  I have a presentation I'll be doing Sunday to a group in Georgia that are actively trying
[27:32.000 --> 27:33.000]  to change things.
[27:33.000 --> 27:41.000]  And they sent me some videos where they went to the city council and gave them notice of
[27:41.000 --> 27:44.000]  a number of criminal acts on the part of the city council.
[27:44.000 --> 27:49.000]  They're calling them no good rotten criminals and complaining that the prosecuting attorney,
[27:49.000 --> 27:54.000]  when they give the prosecuting attorney evidence, prosecuting attorney doesn't do anything with
[27:54.000 --> 27:55.000]  it.
[27:55.000 --> 28:06.000]  And this goes to a mindset that I am struggling to get changed.
[28:06.000 --> 28:11.000]  One of these individuals is a retired judge and ex chief of police.
[28:11.000 --> 28:15.000]  And he's stuck in the same mindset.
[28:15.000 --> 28:25.000]  He still has faith that the system will work and that all he has to do is give the system
[28:25.000 --> 28:33.000]  notice that something's wrong and the system will kick in gear and fix it.
[28:33.000 --> 28:39.000]  And I'm watching what's going on and I'm saying, no, no, no, no, that is not the way to do
[28:39.000 --> 28:40.000]  it.
[28:40.000 --> 28:44.000]  If you think the city council has committed crimes, the last place you want to go is the
[28:44.000 --> 28:47.000]  city council.
[28:47.000 --> 28:53.000]  First place you want to go is to some magistrate with criminal charges against the city council.
[28:53.000 --> 28:56.000]  You don't want to go to the prosecutor either.
[28:56.000 --> 28:58.000]  That's for police.
[28:58.000 --> 28:59.000]  Police go to prosecutors.
[28:59.000 --> 29:00.000]  We're not police.
[29:00.000 --> 29:01.000]  We're the masters.
[29:01.000 --> 29:04.000]  We go to judges or magistrates.
[29:04.000 --> 29:09.000]  And then when the magistrate doesn't act, we go to the next higher magistrate with criminal
[29:09.000 --> 29:10.000]  charges against him.
[29:10.000 --> 29:13.000]  We don't go down there and give them fair warning.
[29:13.000 --> 29:16.000]  We don't go down there and give them legal advice.
[29:16.000 --> 29:22.000]  You know, if you own a corporation and you walk past the mail room and the guy in the
[29:22.000 --> 29:26.000]  mail room's in there goofing off, texting on his cell phone when he's supposed to be
[29:26.000 --> 29:30.000]  putting up the mail, and you're the CEO, you're not going to go in there and chew that guy
[29:30.000 --> 29:32.000]  out.
[29:32.000 --> 29:34.000]  Not your job.
[29:34.000 --> 29:36.000]  You have a manager to take care of that.
[29:36.000 --> 29:42.000]  You're going to go chew out the executive vice president and head of that section.
[29:42.000 --> 29:45.000]  And he's going to go chew out the general manager.
[29:45.000 --> 29:50.000]  He's going to chew out this guy's supervisor, and the guy's supervisor will chew this guy
[29:50.000 --> 29:51.000]  out.
[29:51.000 --> 29:54.000]  Well, where are the CEOs here?
[29:54.000 --> 29:56.000]  We need to run them up to flagpole.
[29:56.000 --> 29:57.000]  Hang on.
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[34:06.000 --> 34:08.000]  Okay, we are back.
[34:08.000 --> 34:13.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Oliver in Tennessee.
[34:13.000 --> 34:20.000]  And we talked to Deborah with the break on this, and she made a really good point.
[34:20.000 --> 34:26.000]  This one thing that the policemen are taught, make sure you go home tonight.
[34:26.000 --> 34:30.000]  What the heck is that crap?
[34:30.000 --> 34:32.000]  Make sure you go home tonight.
[34:32.000 --> 34:40.000]  That implies that every single citizen you speak to is likely to kill you.
[34:40.000 --> 34:46.000]  If you are so terrified of the public you're working for that you think every person out here
[34:46.000 --> 34:51.000]  is likely to kill you, so you have to be on edge, ready to defend yourself,
[34:51.000 --> 34:59.000]  get that pistol off your hip and go out and pick up dead cats and skunks off the highway,
[34:59.000 --> 35:02.000]  or you won't be killing our friends and neighbors.
[35:02.000 --> 35:06.000]  That is absolutely unacceptable.
[35:06.000 --> 35:09.000]  And this is a training.
[35:09.000 --> 35:10.000]  Right.
[35:10.000 --> 35:12.000]  We need that fixed.
[35:12.000 --> 35:22.000]  And the best way I've found to handle them is from the perspective that I am the CEO.
[35:22.000 --> 35:27.000]  The last time I got a ticket I didn't tell him anything.
[35:27.000 --> 35:36.000]  He asked me for my proof of insurance, and I said, I'll look it up on your computer.
[35:36.000 --> 35:43.000]  And he had already looked up on his computer that my registration was expired.
[35:43.000 --> 35:51.000]  And when he handed me the ticket I said, Bubba, I'm going to give you a romp through the legal system.
[35:51.000 --> 35:54.000]  You are not going to believe.
[35:54.000 --> 35:55.000]  And he said, oh, you are.
[35:55.000 --> 35:57.000]  I said, yes, I am.
[35:57.000 --> 36:00.000]  And we're both going to have great fun in the process.
[36:00.000 --> 36:03.000]  And he said, yes, somehow I don't think so.
[36:03.000 --> 36:08.000]  But didn't create any animosity there.
[36:08.000 --> 36:13.000]  And I didn't give him any fair warning.
[36:13.000 --> 36:16.000]  Bushwhack is so much better.
[36:16.000 --> 36:19.000]  All I told him was, I'm going to bushwhack you.
[36:19.000 --> 36:21.000]  And I did.
[36:21.000 --> 36:23.000]  They threw the case out.
[36:23.000 --> 36:31.000]  When I didn't show up for the initial hearing, the prosecuting attorney threw out the case because of the filings that I put in.
[36:31.000 --> 36:35.000]  The best way to handle them.
[36:35.000 --> 36:47.000]  And I'm speaking to this issue the way I am because this is a very carefully crafted approach.
[36:47.000 --> 36:51.000]  It has nothing to do with what's right or wrong.
[36:51.000 --> 36:55.000]  It has to do with what works well.
[36:55.000 --> 37:12.000]  If you think of the officer as abusing you or mistreating you unfairly, that will tend to cause you to react and respond in a very specific manner.
[37:12.000 --> 37:22.000]  And the officer is very familiar with people reacting and responding to him in that kind of manner.
[37:22.000 --> 37:28.000]  Angry, frustrated, betrayed, resistant, aggressive.
[37:28.000 --> 37:31.000]  He's very accustomed to that.
[37:31.000 --> 37:33.000]  And he knows how to handle that.
[37:33.000 --> 37:41.000]  So I'm trying to create a new toolbox, a new way of reacting and responding.
[37:41.000 --> 37:47.000]  If you think of him as the servant and you the master.
[37:47.000 --> 37:55.000]  And he is a low level servant that works for your chief of police who works for your mayor.
[37:55.000 --> 38:00.000]  If I have a problem with a local police officer, I am the master.
[38:00.000 --> 38:04.000]  I go to the head guy that I elected to run that office.
[38:04.000 --> 38:07.000]  I didn't let the chief of police.
[38:07.000 --> 38:11.000]  I elected the mayor and the mayor hired the chief of police.
[38:11.000 --> 38:15.000]  So I'm going to go crawl down the mayor's throat.
[38:15.000 --> 38:18.000]  And let the mayor crawl down the chief of police throat.
[38:18.000 --> 38:20.000]  Let the chief of police crawl down the sergeant's throat.
[38:20.000 --> 38:22.000]  And let the sergeant crawl down the corporal.
[38:22.000 --> 38:27.000]  And the corporal, the officer, the time it gets to the officer doesn't make any difference what he did.
[38:27.000 --> 38:31.000]  He's in trouble.
[38:31.000 --> 38:33.000]  This is how it worked in the military.
[38:33.000 --> 38:36.000]  This is how it works in most any organization.
[38:36.000 --> 38:42.000]  And the policemen want to act like a military organization.
[38:42.000 --> 38:46.000]  Well, let's introduce them to a little military bearing.
[38:46.000 --> 38:55.000]  And Deborah called me on the break about my presentation about how police are under a lot of stress and adrenaline.
[38:55.000 --> 39:05.000]  I was in combat and we had adrenaline pumping, but we didn't act like these police do.
[39:05.000 --> 39:08.000]  We were trained and we were disciplined.
[39:08.000 --> 39:15.000]  Just because we were cranked on adrenaline, we did not shoot civilians.
[39:15.000 --> 39:20.000]  Yeah, there are stories that some did, but there were people there who never should have been there.
[39:20.000 --> 39:27.000]  The vast majority of the military personnel did what they were ordered to do.
[39:27.000 --> 39:30.000]  And didn't matter if it frightened them.
[39:30.000 --> 39:34.000]  Didn't matter if they were terrified.
[39:34.000 --> 39:42.000]  They didn't pull the weapon and shoot somebody just because the person didn't do exactly what they said when they said how they said.
[39:42.000 --> 39:45.000]  We need to get this fixed.
[39:45.000 --> 39:53.000]  And what I do, I get two words out of an officer I don't like or I see his hand move toward his pistol.
[39:53.000 --> 39:56.000]  That gets a 911 call immediately.
[39:56.000 --> 40:02.000]  First thing, I want a third party intervening.
[40:02.000 --> 40:14.000]  I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to use that concept because they came to my property to do this and they brought police with them.
[40:14.000 --> 40:17.000]  And if you want to find somebody, where you go?
[40:17.000 --> 40:18.000]  You go to their home.
[40:18.000 --> 40:19.000]  You go to their property.
[40:19.000 --> 40:27.000]  And if I'm supposed to have rights, of course, my property is going to be what I'm going to be using.
[40:27.000 --> 40:31.000]  My property is where my rights are going to stand the most.
[40:31.000 --> 40:40.000]  So if I have a right to bear arms, which I do, and I have arms, what would have happened if I decided to let some ledger loose?
[40:40.000 --> 40:45.000]  Because isn't this the basis of our country, your property?
[40:45.000 --> 40:51.000]  Yes, but in the real world we live in, you're outgunned.
[40:51.000 --> 40:53.000]  I understand that.
[40:53.000 --> 40:54.000]  I understand that.
[40:54.000 --> 40:57.000]  See, I'm trying to use your philosophy.
[40:57.000 --> 41:00.000]  We have other tools.
[41:00.000 --> 41:06.000]  In combat, you don't always win a battle with your weapons.
[41:06.000 --> 41:10.000]  No, I'm not condoning to do that.
[41:10.000 --> 41:11.000]  I'm just telling you that.
[41:11.000 --> 41:14.000]  I'm just stating that that could have been a circumstance.
[41:14.000 --> 41:17.000]  Yeah, I do understand the frustration.
[41:17.000 --> 41:22.000]  You understand it better than me because I'm not black.
[41:22.000 --> 41:26.000]  I'm not guilty of the crime of being black.
[41:26.000 --> 41:29.000]  I heard the president speaking.
[41:29.000 --> 41:33.000]  I don't have much use for the president, but I did.
[41:33.000 --> 41:43.000]  I could hear in his voice his frustration because he understands where you live better than I do.
[41:43.000 --> 42:00.000]  That when I move around, I don't have to look around and consider my situation and make sure that I handle myself exactly correct in this situation to keep the police from harassing me.
[42:00.000 --> 42:02.000]  I don't have to deal with that.
[42:02.000 --> 42:08.000]  If I did have to deal with that, I would have a very tough time.
[42:08.000 --> 42:17.000]  The few times I have to deal with the police, he gets my adrenaline pumping and I really want to work him over.
[42:17.000 --> 42:24.000]  If I had to deal with him the way you had to deal with him, I could fully understand how frustrating that can be.
[42:24.000 --> 42:36.000]  I don't want to say I understand why this guy opened up on all these policemen, but I do understand his frustration.
[42:36.000 --> 42:40.000]  I'm not trying to advocate or use it in an aggressive way.
[42:40.000 --> 42:50.000]  I'm trying to make the correlation between that I have a trial coming up and we have all these incidents coming up with situations happening and somebody ends up dying.
[42:50.000 --> 42:53.000]  I'm trying to make the correlation that there's a-
[42:53.000 --> 42:54.000]  Hold on.
[42:54.000 --> 42:57.000]  How long before your trial comes up?
[42:57.000 --> 43:06.000]  After I send you the information, I'm going to go ahead and file the paperwork in court.
[43:06.000 --> 43:12.000]  You've got some time because you want to subpoena every officer that was there.
[43:12.000 --> 43:13.000]  Right.
[43:13.000 --> 43:17.000]  I'm trying to make the correlation of the argument that I'm going to push in court.
[43:17.000 --> 43:21.000]  Am I allowed to make those references that, hey, I have a second amendment, right?
[43:21.000 --> 43:23.000]  I'm at my property.
[43:23.000 --> 43:26.000]  This is part of your suit.
[43:26.000 --> 43:30.000]  Have you made a claim for procedural due process violation?
[43:30.000 --> 43:33.000]  It's a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit.
[43:33.000 --> 43:39.000]  That's what the 42 U.S. Code 1983 is, is a procedural due process.
[43:39.000 --> 43:41.000]  I'll explain that when I come back.
[43:41.000 --> 43:51.000]  It'll help you better understand what you should go after and police with pistols is something you should certainly go after.
[43:51.000 --> 43:56.000]  Hang on, about to go to break, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, and Rue de la Radio.
[43:56.000 --> 43:57.000]  Larry, I see you there.
[43:57.000 --> 44:00.000]  I'll call the number back too late.
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[46:20.000 --> 46:22.000]  Okay, we are back.
[46:22.000 --> 46:25.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Law Radio.
[46:25.000 --> 46:30.000]  And it looks like Oliver dropped. He's coming back on, but he'll be back in a second.
[46:30.000 --> 46:42.000]  Oliver, a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit is always a procedural or substantive due process suit.
[46:42.000 --> 46:46.000]  It's always a suit for breach of due process.
[46:46.000 --> 46:58.000]  So, back up and think of this only in terms of the rights you have and how they have violated those rights.
[46:58.000 --> 47:07.000]  And as to the policemen, you know, these guys brought people with guns.
[47:07.000 --> 47:08.000]  Right.
[47:08.000 --> 47:18.000]  I had the chief of police, who was a personal friend of mine, and the sheriff come to my house one day after I had filed criminal charges against the district judge.
[47:18.000 --> 47:20.000]  This was several years ago.
[47:20.000 --> 47:28.000]  And I invited him in, the chief came in, I stopped the sheriff, and I said, wait a minute, you have a pistol on.
[47:28.000 --> 47:32.000]  He said, well, I'm the sheriff. I said, yeah, you are, but you're in my house.
[47:32.000 --> 47:35.000]  If you want to come in my house, you need to take that pistol off.
[47:35.000 --> 47:38.000]  And he said, well, the chief is wearing one.
[47:38.000 --> 47:41.000]  Yeah, I trust him.
[47:41.000 --> 47:44.000]  You don't trust me? No, I don't.
[47:44.000 --> 47:52.000]  Well, I'm not leaving my pistol in the car and get the heck out of here.
[47:52.000 --> 47:53.000]  That's my position.
[47:53.000 --> 47:57.000]  Guns for me are a big deal.
[47:57.000 --> 48:03.000]  This guy I knew, if I needed protecting, he would protect me.
[48:03.000 --> 48:06.000]  And he was not going to shoot me.
[48:06.000 --> 48:07.000]  I didn't trust the sheriff.
[48:07.000 --> 48:10.000]  So, you don't come on my property with pistols.
[48:10.000 --> 48:15.000]  You step on my property with pistols and you do so without my permission.
[48:15.000 --> 48:19.000]  I consider that aggravated assault.
[48:19.000 --> 48:20.000]  Okay.
[48:20.000 --> 48:30.000]  So, you want to, but whatever you do, don't give fair warning if you can avoid it.
[48:30.000 --> 48:38.000]  Now, all you need is one due process claim to get in court.
[48:38.000 --> 48:42.000]  You kind of do like the U.S. attorneys do.
[48:42.000 --> 48:45.000]  U.S. attorneys, they're going after somebody.
[48:45.000 --> 48:52.000]  They will find some minor little thing that while it's a felony, it's a minor felony,
[48:52.000 --> 48:54.000]  it's easy to get an indictment on.
[48:54.000 --> 48:58.000]  And they'll go in and get an indictment on this minor thing.
[48:58.000 --> 49:04.000]  And then you've got a rubber stamp with the grand jury foreman's name on it.
[49:04.000 --> 49:08.000]  Then they start doing the real research.
[49:08.000 --> 49:15.000]  Because they have the claim against you, now they can do more effective investigation.
[49:15.000 --> 49:21.000]  Randy, I found over 20 charges that, I mean, I found over, almost near 20 violations.
[49:21.000 --> 49:22.000]  That's why I said I got your address.
[49:22.000 --> 49:24.000]  I'm going to send it to you as soon as I get off the radio.
[49:24.000 --> 49:25.000]  Okay, good, good.
[49:25.000 --> 49:27.000]  I'd like to see that.
[49:27.000 --> 49:38.000]  Now you want to get the officers on the stand and elicit testimony from them.
[49:38.000 --> 49:44.000]  While you're doing that, remember, never give fair warning.
[49:44.000 --> 49:51.000]  You don't want them to ever think that you're setting them up to give you information
[49:51.000 --> 49:57.000]  that you can pursue criminal prosecution against them with later.
[49:57.000 --> 50:02.000]  That gets to be a pleasant surprise.
[50:02.000 --> 50:07.000]  Now this one lawsuit initiates other lawsuits.
[50:07.000 --> 50:11.000]  It depends on how I interrogate them on the stand.
[50:11.000 --> 50:14.000]  Exactly.
[50:14.000 --> 50:22.000]  So one question you ask when you came to the property, did you have a criminal complaint
[50:22.000 --> 50:25.000]  against me at the time?
[50:25.000 --> 50:26.000]  Whatever they say.
[50:26.000 --> 50:31.000]  Did you go to a magistrate and secure a warrant to authorize you to enter the property?
[50:31.000 --> 50:35.000]  No, they told me that it was authorized by the city to come through security.
[50:35.000 --> 50:39.000]  You want them to say that on the stand.
[50:39.000 --> 50:44.000]  So you're going to ask them, did you secure a warrant?
[50:44.000 --> 50:47.000]  And they're going to say, we were authorized by the city.
[50:47.000 --> 50:53.000]  And you say, objection, Your Honor, non-responsive.
[50:53.000 --> 50:56.000]  Pay close attention to that.
[50:56.000 --> 50:58.000]  You ask a question.
[50:58.000 --> 51:02.000]  They answered the question that you asked.
[51:02.000 --> 51:13.000]  You ask them, did you get a warrant and they say no, that they were authorized by the city to do security.
[51:13.000 --> 51:16.000]  That answers a question you didn't ask.
[51:16.000 --> 51:20.000]  And you can stop them and get them to say yes or no.
[51:20.000 --> 51:21.000]  I had a warrant.
[51:21.000 --> 51:23.000]  I didn't have a warrant.
[51:23.000 --> 51:25.000]  They say no.
[51:25.000 --> 51:27.000]  Gotcha.
[51:27.000 --> 51:32.000]  When I ask a question, make sure it's answered and don't go any further until it's answered.
[51:32.000 --> 51:33.000]  Yes.
[51:33.000 --> 51:35.000]  The man that is answered.
[51:35.000 --> 51:39.000]  Listen to, you need to sit in court sometime and listen to these guys.
[51:39.000 --> 51:43.000]  There are some issues I would like to address on the air.
[51:43.000 --> 51:49.000]  One of the primary ones are unstated presuppositions.
[51:49.000 --> 51:55.000]  They're the hardest things to catch.
[51:55.000 --> 52:01.000]  An unstated presupposition is where someone says something.
[52:01.000 --> 52:09.000]  And in order for that to make any sense, something else has to be true.
[52:09.000 --> 52:11.000]  And that gets the objection.
[52:11.000 --> 52:13.000]  Objection assumes a fact not in evidence.
[52:13.000 --> 52:18.000]  And this is one of their favorite tricks.
[52:18.000 --> 52:29.000]  When an officer says I observed the defendant operating a motor vehicle, objection assumes facts not in evidence.
[52:29.000 --> 52:37.000]  What fact does that assume that's not in evidence?
[52:37.000 --> 52:41.000]  It assumes that I was in commerce.
[52:41.000 --> 52:42.000]  Right.
[52:42.000 --> 52:44.000]  But he didn't say that.
[52:44.000 --> 52:50.000]  He constructed his languages in a way to imply that.
[52:50.000 --> 52:59.000]  The only way you can be operating a motor vehicle under the definition of the term, the legal definition of the terms,
[52:59.000 --> 53:06.000]  was you would have had been operating in commerce and there is no evidence that you were operating in commerce.
[53:06.000 --> 53:09.000]  It's hard to catch.
[53:09.000 --> 53:15.000]  Even lawyers miss it, but they struggle to try to get better at catching it.
[53:15.000 --> 53:29.000]  And when you catch someone doing a complex equivalent or an unstated presupposition, it really trips them up.
[53:29.000 --> 53:41.000]  So if you're getting ready to go to court, you might watch some of these really good lawyer programs where they're doing examination
[53:41.000 --> 53:48.000]  and cross-examination and pay real close attention to the mechanics.
[53:48.000 --> 53:57.000]  Because you want to snooker those officers into admitting on the stand that they committed a crime.
[53:57.000 --> 54:02.000]  And the first thing you do is go file criminal charges against them.
[54:02.000 --> 54:04.000]  They will give you more claims.
[54:04.000 --> 54:07.000]  They'll give you your criminal claims to make against them.
[54:07.000 --> 54:11.000]  And you just keep turning the heat up on them.
[54:11.000 --> 54:12.000]  Okay.
[54:12.000 --> 54:14.000]  That's all I'm going to say on that subject.
[54:14.000 --> 54:16.000]  I kind of think I kind of beat that to death.
[54:16.000 --> 54:22.000]  But yes, I'm very interested in seeing your pleadings.
[54:22.000 --> 54:29.000]  What type of effect do you think is going to have on the jury if I'm able to get that out?
[54:29.000 --> 54:34.000]  The jury won't have any knowledge of what you did.
[54:34.000 --> 54:36.000]  No.
[54:36.000 --> 54:38.000]  Well, okay.
[54:38.000 --> 54:45.000]  As far as the fact that the cops came to my house to demolish my house, which is a big no-no.
[54:45.000 --> 54:46.000]  You know what I'm saying?
[54:46.000 --> 54:53.000]  Demolish somebody's property and all these events that are happening, knowing that Mr. Olivier has guns at his house,
[54:53.000 --> 54:54.000]  it could have been another event.
[54:54.000 --> 54:55.000]  Okay, hold on.
[54:55.000 --> 54:57.000]  That would have happened.
[54:57.000 --> 55:02.000]  Go to your legal library.
[55:02.000 --> 55:10.000]  You need one that has Westlaw because Westlaw has proof of facts.
[55:10.000 --> 55:16.000]  And you need to look up proof of facts for whatever issue you're working with.
[55:16.000 --> 55:22.000]  And it will give you a set of questions to establish the issue.
[55:22.000 --> 55:27.000]  They've got lots of questions in there and they sound very pedantic.
[55:27.000 --> 55:33.000]  But they ask for all of the elements of whatever issue you're addressing.
[55:33.000 --> 55:35.000]  They are absolutely incredible.
[55:35.000 --> 55:38.000]  And lawyers use them all the time.
[55:38.000 --> 55:40.000]  So write down proof of facts.
[55:40.000 --> 55:45.000]  Go to your local, to a legal library, like a college or something.
[55:45.000 --> 55:50.000]  And the legal librarians are extremely helpful.
[55:50.000 --> 55:54.000]  Get them to find you proof of facts.
[55:54.000 --> 55:59.000]  And that will give you the questions you need to ask to establish a set of facts.
[55:59.000 --> 56:09.000]  Like here you had guns, but had you ever been arrested for a violent offense?
[56:09.000 --> 56:10.000]  No.
[56:10.000 --> 56:11.000]  So you asked the officer,
[56:11.000 --> 56:18.000]  did you have any indication that I had ever been charged with a violent offense?
[56:18.000 --> 56:19.000]  No, no, no.
[56:19.000 --> 56:20.000]  What are you just going to say?
[56:20.000 --> 56:23.000]  The guns part is not on the officer.
[56:23.000 --> 56:25.000]  I mean, like, I have guns on my property.
[56:25.000 --> 56:26.000]  They don't know that.
[56:26.000 --> 56:28.000]  I'm just saying that it could have been an incident
[56:28.000 --> 56:32.000]  because if I wanted to protect my property, which I'm an American
[56:32.000 --> 56:35.000]  and I was taught that I have the right to,
[56:35.000 --> 56:40.000]  now the city has caused a grave harm because I could have picked up my weapon
[56:40.000 --> 56:45.000]  and started shooting trying to do a job.
[56:45.000 --> 56:51.000]  Where I'm trying to go to, why were they there to run security?
[56:51.000 --> 57:00.000]  Why did the city official feel like he needed to bring people with loaded pistols onto your property
[57:00.000 --> 57:02.000]  and threaten you with them?
[57:02.000 --> 57:08.000]  What evidence did he have to believe that you may become violent?
[57:08.000 --> 57:10.000]  And you ask them for it.
[57:10.000 --> 57:14.000]  You've got a jury sitting there and they own their own house.
[57:14.000 --> 57:19.000]  And they're seeing you standing here and this guy shows up on your property
[57:19.000 --> 57:23.000]  with a bunch of guys with guns on their hips.
[57:23.000 --> 57:28.000]  And you're incensed by that and they will be, too.
[57:28.000 --> 57:34.000]  So you want them to explain why it was necessary to bring loaded pistols on your property.
[57:34.000 --> 57:39.000]  Why did you think you would have to shoot me?
[57:39.000 --> 57:42.000]  Have I demonstrated that I'm dangerous?
[57:42.000 --> 57:43.000]  Well, it's private.
[57:43.000 --> 57:44.000]  I'm allowed to have guns.
[57:44.000 --> 57:46.000]  I'm allowed to have what I want.
[57:46.000 --> 57:49.000]  No, wait, they don't know you have guns.
[57:49.000 --> 57:52.000]  I'm talking about the guns they've got.
[57:52.000 --> 57:53.000]  Right, right, right.
[57:53.000 --> 57:57.000]  I understand your angle at it.
[57:57.000 --> 57:59.000]  Oh, no, no, I'm not angry.
[57:59.000 --> 58:08.000]  I'm trying to figure out how to get the jury to be as incensed as you should be.
[58:08.000 --> 58:09.000]  Right.
[58:09.000 --> 58:12.000]  And I'm trying to prove to the jury that I could have died that day.
[58:12.000 --> 58:15.000]  If I picked up my second amendment right, I would have been dead.
[58:15.000 --> 58:16.000]  Yeah.
[58:16.000 --> 58:18.000]  I'm outdone, just like you said.
[58:18.000 --> 58:19.000]  Will that make a difference?
[58:19.000 --> 58:21.000]  Do you think that makes a difference?
[58:21.000 --> 58:24.000]  I think that will make a big difference.
[58:24.000 --> 58:25.000]  Okay.
[58:25.000 --> 58:26.000]  You started it.
[58:26.000 --> 58:27.000]  You started it.
[58:27.000 --> 58:35.000]  Even if there's white guys on the jury, I think white guys, especially in the South,
[58:35.000 --> 58:42.000]  would be more indignant because, you know, we're not used to being treated the way you are.
[58:42.000 --> 58:45.000]  We're not used to being treated with that disrespect.
[58:45.000 --> 58:50.000]  And when they disrespect me by displaying guns in front of me...
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[01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.000]  A man in his 20s armed with an AK-47 entered a Waffle House in DeSoto, Texas
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[01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and the Lone Star Lowdown Radio.
[01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000]  We're talking to Oliver in Tennessee.
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  And Oliver, how incensed were you that these guys walked on your property with pistols?
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.000]  Well, I was heated.
[01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  And the thing is, they know the reason that they came on my property with pistols
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.000]  is because I've already been fighting the driver without a license, basically.
[01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  I've been doing it a little, I haven't been subtle about it.
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000]  But they know me.
[01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:04.000]  Well, were you so frightened that you wet your britches?
[01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  Oh, yes, I was, yeah.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Almost.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:12.000]  This, okay, when you, the whole thing about this suit.
[01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  I'm very frightened.
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.000]  Don't expect to get to court with it.
[01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  Okay.
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  Everything's political.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  What you want to do is construct a suit that the other lawyer will look at it and say,
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:34.000]  I do not want to argue this in front of a jury.
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:42.000]  So you always, everything that you put in your suit is always there for the jury.
[01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  You don't care about the other side.
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000]  You don't care about anything.
[01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.000]  You care about convincing a jury.
[01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:54.000]  And every time you write a legal document, everything you write,
[01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  you think how would a jury of my peers respond to this?
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  And when you construct the issues you're going to bring,
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  you want to construct issues that will be real hard for them to argue against.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:17.000]  You're going to say that the person felt like he needed security.
[01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  And you ask him, well, when you go to the grocery store, do you take armed policemen with you?
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  When you go to do a property inspection, like a building inspector,
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  does he take armed policemen with you?
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  Doesn't that help me prove conspiracy?
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  Because you don't have the authority to make the police have this power.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:41.000]  You do this.
[01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.000]  You don't have the authority to come on my property.
[01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  You still did that.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.000]  I came to the, I sat down with the city attorney and I had a meeting.
[01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.000]  We just recorded, I had it on recording.
[01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  Told him that I have all these rights and what he's doing is wrong.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  He's saying, no, the city, the state gave the city the power
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.000]  and they have the authority to do this and I don't know what I'm talking about.
[01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  I had this on recording.
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  That's a big conspiracy, isn't it?
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:16.000]  No, conspiracy has to be a conspiracy to commit a felony, at least in Texas it says.
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  You can't conspire to commit a misdemeanor in Texas.
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.000]  You can only conspire to commit a felony.
[01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:32.000]  And it would have to be a meeting of minds between two people with the intent of committing a crime.
[01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  Now, the policeman can come to your property and if you give them permission,
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:43.000]  they can enter your property or if you don't have a fence, if you have no barrier.
[01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:47.000]  I'm not suing the police for conspiracy.
[01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  I'm suing the city for getting all them together to do that wrong against my property.
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:55.000]  Okay.
[01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.000]  Not the cop himself.
[01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:04.000]  Okay. Did this inspector have any reason to be afraid of you?
[01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:11.000]  I mean, had you threatened him or gotten angry or aggressive or anything with him?
[01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000]  No, everybody in the department said that was nice.
[01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  Well, no one would go get the paperwork from them.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.000]  Okay, I'm going somewhere here.
[01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  If he didn't have any reason to believe that you would be anything other than polite and cordial,
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:37.000]  why would he bring policemen with him?
[01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  He'd seek it out as an American.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  I think he brought policemen with him to frighten and intimidate you so that he could carry out his illegal plans.
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:08:01.000]  Now, you have done your research and found that what they did, they were not legally allowed to do.
[01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.000]  Well, the mayor ordered it.
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  Who cares?
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.000]  On that, okay.
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  Who cares? Are you familiar with Screws VUS?
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:14.000]  Heard of it.
[01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  Oh, look it up.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:25.000]  95, let's see, it's 363 USC 93, I believe that's correct.
[01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  But if you do a search for Screws VUS, you'll find it and then write down 109.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  It's at page 109.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.000]  109.
[01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  Where I'm paraphrasing a little bit because they're a little more wordy than I am.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  It says that a private citizen cannot claim ignorance of the law as a defense to prosecution.
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:50.000]  A public official is held to a much higher standard.
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:09:04.000]  If a public official violates a ruling of this court and he be sane, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does.
[01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  So if the individual did not have the legal authority to do what he was doing, it doesn't make any difference who told him what.
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  Gotcha.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  Objection, relevance.
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  If the mayor told you to stand on your head and squawk like a chicken, would you do that?
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  I tell bailiffs all the time when I ask them to arrest the judge and they refuse.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  I say, well, you know, life is filled with little decisions.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.000]  We all get to make some.
[01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  The mayor told him to do something that was illegal.
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  And that presented him with a decision and he made one.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  So don't come back and whine about it now.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  So from your perspective, he knew exactly what he was doing.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  He fully understood the legal consequences of what he was doing.
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:12.000]  Now what questions would you ask him?
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  Okay.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  I understand.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:21.000]  Am I allowed to ask for silver and gold in payment if I get a warrant?
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  Oh, yeah.
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  You can ask anything you want to.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  The judge will either grant it or not, but I would suggest that you not.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000]  You not?
[01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.000]  Yeah.
[01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  Back up.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  Ask yourself, what is your intended outcome?
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:51.000]  Now, okay, if you receive payment in whatever the medium, not taxable, they can tax green dollars.
[01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.000]  So you'd think they'd be able to tax you if they pay you in green dollars.
[01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:01.000]  Not because this is making you whole.
[01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  This is not profit.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  So what you receive in a settlement is not taxable.
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:12.000]  But think of what is your intended outcome.
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  Let's, okay, I'm thinking of doing with this thing.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.000]  How will this lead me toward my intended outcome?
[01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:38.000]  No matter how much you want to do this thing, if you can't find a way to construe that in the context of leading me toward your outcome, don't do it.
[01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:47.000]  If you're going to say something to one of these people, always ask yourself, how will this lead me toward my ultimate outcome?
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.000]  When the bailiff pushed me out the door, knocked me down, broke my elbow.
[01:11:53.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  I really wanted to go after that bailiff because it was not only insulting and embarrassing, it really, really hurt.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  I hit my elbow so hard on that marble step that it smashed, the bone smashed through my suit, cut all the way through my suit coat.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  So I really wanted to go after the bailiff.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  But I asked myself, how will this lead me toward my intended outcome? And I could not find a way to craft that to where it would lead me toward my outcome.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  So I didn't go after the bailiff.
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  And that gave me more credibility than anything I could have done.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:51.000]  Recently, when the judge ordered the bailiffs to arrest me, four of them moved toward me.
[01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  The fifth one did not.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  He stood back and he wasn't having anything to do with that.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  He had no intention of arresting me.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  He knew what they were doing was wrong and he wasn't going to have a part of it because I demonstrated to him that's why he was still there.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000]  I didn't take his job away from him.
[01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  Think carefully before you do anything.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  What is your intended outcome?
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000]  This will make you far more effective.
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:26.000]  It will make you extremely difficult to deal with.
[01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:33.000]  Sometimes when we have time, I'll talk about the structures that I'm presenting here.
[01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.000]  There's an underlying structure to what we're doing here.
[01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:45.000]  That makes you hard for them to get a handle on.
[01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:53.000]  This will shield you from reacting and responding the way you normally would.
[01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  That makes them crazy.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.000]  They can't understand you.
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.000]  They can't anticipate you.
[01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:11.000]  That's why I wanted to do that, to really make them know that if Olivier is bringing up these issues,
[01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:14.000]  and every time you see him, it's going to be difficult.
[01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  He's going to make it extremely difficult.
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.000]  That's why I wanted to write that in.
[01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:24.000]  I want to let you get to other people I'm going to run and send you.
[01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:35.000]  The power play in that kind of situation is to discipline not to say what you feel like saying,
[01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  not to do what you feel like doing.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.000]  You have to constantly keep interrupting yourself,
[01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  because they really know how to push your buttons and get you to dance for them.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:53.000]  You may feel like you're perfectly justified and you're reading the right act,
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  but if you are acting and reacting in a way that they can expect and anticipate,
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  then they're leading you down the garden path.
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:09.000]  But if you start stopping yourself and ask yourself,
[01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  if I say this to this officer or to this lawyer,
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.000]  how will that lead me toward my intended outcome?
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  The most effective witness I ever saw was a 26-year-old kid.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  Every time they asked him a question, he waited about 30 seconds before he spoke.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  Finally, the lawyer got frustrated and asked the judge to order him to answer the question.
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.000]  The judge asked the guy, is there a problem?
[01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  Oh, no, Your Honor.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  This is court, and I'm concerned about saying something improper or incorrect.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  I want to think about what I'm going to say before I speak.
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  You just say, oh, okay.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:59.000]  But it really put the lawyer off his game.
[01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:07.000]  Don't give them the responses and reactions that they expect.
[01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:11.000]  That's why you never give legal advice to the officer.
[01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.000]  I got my rights.
[01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  You're supposed to do this.
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  No, no, no, no.
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  Bushwhack is so much better.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:25.000]  The only way he finds out you're annoyed is when you dump on the mayor
[01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  and drop on him with both feet.
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  And he has to look around and figure out where it comes from,
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  and then he looks back at you and says, that rascal set me up.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Yeah, we did.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  All right.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  I'll call back.
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.000]  I'll let you get to somebody else, all right?
[01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:42.000]  Okay.
[01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  Thank you, Larry.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  I'm going to see you to eat.
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  You're not Larry.
[01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  Thank you, Oliver.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  You're in the wrong place on my board.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  Okay.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  I'm about to do the break.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  When we come back, we're going to Larry in Arizona,
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000]  and then we've got Frankie in Illinois.
[01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens.
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  We're going to Larry in Arizona.
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  Larry, what do you have for us today?
[01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:49.000]  Good evening, Randy.
[01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  Well, I guess the question I have is going to be almost an extension of your talk with Oliver.
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.000]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.000]  And I apologize for holding you so long.
[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  But you know, when Oliver first started calling in, he didn't know squat.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  And he's one of the few that he called in.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  He asked for advice.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  And the first advice we gave him, Mr. Reed, is study the codes.
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:21.000]  And he has become a master.
[01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  I could not be more pleased with Oliver.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  I've spent more time with him because he is becoming more sophisticated,
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  and I'd appreciate it.
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  Okay, okay, go ahead, Larry.
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  Yeah, well, no, Oliver has been very educational.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  And the Jeffs, Jeff from Alabama and Jeff Sedgwick.
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  I haven't heard from Jeff in a while.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  I need to get in contact with him and see how he's doing.
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:53.000]  Yeah, well, a week or so ago, you and Jeff Sedgwick went into it about discovery,
[01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  which was a very educational show.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Jeff is one that really takes me on.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  And I really enjoy it.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  He told me once, he called me after the show, and he said,
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.000]  you did the bravest thing I've ever seen.
[01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  I said, what are you talking about?
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.000]  Well, you admitted you were wrong on the show.
[01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  He said, duh, I'd like to be wrong.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  I mean, it's not like I'd like to have things wrong, but I'd like to be caught
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  if I'm doing something wrong.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:31.000]  One of the things is so people understand I'm not some kind of special guru
[01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:38.000]  with special powers so that, oh, yeah, he can do it, but normal people can't.
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  He said, nah, screw up like everybody else does.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  And I do enjoy Jeff because he helps me increase my level of sophistication.
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  Yes, definitely.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  Okay, so late last year, I was pulled over for no registration and called off to jail.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  And I asked the officer if he was taking me to a magistrate, and he said, no,
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  he was taking me to jail.
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  So earlier this year at my trial, you know,
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  I questioned the officer about why he violated the law, didn't take me to a magistrate.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  And the officer, under sworn testimony, said no law enforcement agency in this
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:31.000]  county abides by that law.
[01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  Whoa, he said that?
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:39.000]  He said that on sworn testimony, and I have it on the CD disc.
[01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:42.000]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  Are you thinking of a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit?
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  You know, I'm thinking of a lot of different things, and that's why I decided to call you.
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:59.000]  That sounds, it points toward Rico.
[01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  And the fact that he made that as a judicial admission,
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  I understand about the collateral estoppel.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  Let me explain collateral estoppel.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:20.000]  I got this case where Wells Fargo is trying to foreclose on this guy.
[01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  I file a, we file a qualified written request with notice of rescission.
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.000]  They don't respond.
[01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  I file a quiet title action against them.
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  They move it to the federal court, file a 12B6 motion to dismiss, and under paragraph three,
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.000]  they said we are not the creditor.
[01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.000]  Oh, whoops.
[01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:49.000]  So I filed this response saying that, you know, in paragraphs one and two,
[01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  the lawyer did a bunch of, a lot of song and dance and salsa down your pants.
[01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:04.000]  But in paragraph three, the defendant claimed they were not the creditor.
[01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  Plaintiff is remiss.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  Plaintiff believed that because they were for the party foreclosing that they were the creditor.
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:17.000]  So plaintiff must have certainly sued the wrong party.
[01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  Plaintiff non-suits the case.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  The reason I'm non-suited is the lawyer made a big,
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:33.000]  big mistake in claiming they were not the creditor.
[01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  And I didn't want him to have a chance to fix it because once he said that in court,
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:47.000]  if I don't give him a chance to correct it, it goes to collateral estoppel.
[01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  Now, he may actually be the true and bona fide holder of the dead instrument,
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  but he can never go into court and claim that because he went into court and took a position.
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:11.000]  He can never go into court and take an opposing position.
[01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:18.000]  This officer stated in court that to his knowledge,
[01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:21.000]  no one in the county ever abided by that law.
[01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  He can never go to court and change that.
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  That is etched in stone.
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  Okay.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  Now you've got something to work with.
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  And like I was telling Larry, for the most part, 99% of all the cases never get to trial.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  What lawyers for the most part do is try to construct a suit
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.000]  that the other party is not going to want to put in front of a jury
[01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  to give the other party reason to make a deal to get him to go away.
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  So this is wonderful.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:11.000]  But watch the clock from the date this prosecution ended, the clock starts,
[01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.000]  and you generally have one year.
[01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:20.000]  And you have to give them notice of suit at least 60 days before you sue.
[01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  So you have to have a tort letter in 60 days before the one year runs out.
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  Okay.
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  That may not be that way in Arizona,
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:34.000]  but most of the states I've looked at are kind of consistent in that way.
[01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:35.000]  Yeah.
[01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:37.000]  Okay.
[01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  What are the pros and cons to suing people personally versus in their official capacity?
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  Well, I think if you got a shot at the officer personally, oh, that's wonderful.
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:00.000]  We had a guy with a debt collection suit.
[01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:02.000]  And when the lawyer filed the suit,
[01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:07.000]  there was an affidavit that he was supposed to file with it according to the rules.
[01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  And he didn't file that affidavit.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:13.000]  So we filed a challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.000]  And we sued the judge.
[01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  Well, the judge came into court and the client said, Your Honor, what are you doing here?
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.000]  You can't be here.
[01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.000]  We sued you.
[01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  The judge said, What, what?
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:33.000]  We got the case and he's reading it and said, Oh, my, oh, my.
[01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  Well, he got a recess, recused himself,
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  and he got the county attorney to write an answer for him.
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  Well, we sued him in his personal capacity claiming that he did not have subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:57.000]  But he got a county employee and used county funds to write his answer.
[01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  So we sued the county attorney for misappropriation of public funds.
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  If you see that officer in his personal capacity,
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  very good chance that the city will pay for his attorney fees.
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  And then you get to claim misappropriation of public funds.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  And since this is a federal suit, you don't live in Arizona.
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  You had to go to Arizona to handle this traffic ticket.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  They had to come to where you live to handle the federal suit.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  That would be a lot more fun and it cost them a lot more money.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  They'll have to hire a lawyer in your venue.
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  And then also, if I sue the officer in his personal capacity, can I sue the sheriff's office?
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  Can I go after the sheriff's office also?
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:03.000]  Oh, yes, yes, yes.
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  You can sue the officer personally for what he personally did.
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  You can't claim he didn't know what the law said.
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:14.000]  We just spoke to screws earlier.
[01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  And he testified that nobody, that it was a standard policy to not follow law.
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  So you can sue him personally, but you can also sue the department for the policy,
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  which he stipulated to the policy already.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  So yeah, you can vote.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Okay.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  And then I started reading about suing as a private attorney general.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  Okay, hang on, we'll address that when we come back from break.
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[01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.000]  Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening.
[01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000]  Put a chip in on your body.
[01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.000]  And anyway, you go computer reading.
[01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.000]  You can't hide me from nobody.
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[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La La Radio.
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:43.000]  And I've got two new screens open.
[01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  And we're talking to Larry in Arizona.
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:53.000]  And Larry, you know, you went through the hard part where they kind of jerked you around.
[01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  Now you've got a good shot to go back at them.
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:02.000]  And when we went out, you spoke to a private attorney general suit.
[01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:09.000]  And yes, it looks like because of the admission of the officer,
[01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:17.000]  that indicates that everyone else who has been arrested by these officers
[01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  has been subjected to the same mistreatment.
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:30.000]  But for the most part, it's minor enough that most people don't have the time
[01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  or wherewithal of the funds to take action to remedy this wrong.
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:42.000]  So there is available a private attorney general suit.
[01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.000]  And let me give a little bit on that for those who don't know.
[01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  There's a lot of patriot mythology out there
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  about people being able to become a private attorney general.
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  That's not what this is.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:01.000]  This is a name that the courts have given a certain kind of suit.
[01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:05.000]  And this is a suit that they allow.
[01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  They allow someone to sue for something seemingly minor that happened to them.
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:21.000]  But in order to make it profitable for someone to try to sue and right this civil wrong,
[01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:27.000]  they could sue for themselves and all others similarly situated.
[01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:31.000]  And then if they get an award, they get the entire award.
[01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:34.000]  So Larry, absolutely.
[01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  This sounds like a great private attorney general suit.
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:43.000]  Okay. I mean, everything I read about suing as a private attorney general
[01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  said as long as it was for the public benefit.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  And this sure seems like it would be for the public benefit.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  Yes. And this thing of take before a magistrate, this is so well rooted in law.
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:08.000]  This has been in law since the Magna Carta, 1216 A.D.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  So this is not some new law that they may not be familiar with.
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  This is inconvenient law.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  And the way they got it in is they drugged the Prince John down to the River Thames
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  and threatened to cut his head off if he didn't sign it.
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.000]  That's what it took to get it put in in the first place.
[01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.000]  But over time, they managed to get rid of it.
[01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:37.000]  We need somebody to put it back because it is very basic to law.
[01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  The case law for this is overwhelming.
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  So you've got a great case.
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:50.000]  Okay. Well, I'm developing a whole lot more questions, but it's getting late in the evening.
[01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  Let me let you get on to your other callers and I'll call you next week.
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  Okay. Thank you very much.
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  And keep us up to speed on how this goes.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  Okay. Well, thank you, Randy.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  Okay. Thank you, Larry.
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  Now we're going to go to Frank in Illinois.
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  Hello, Frank. What do you have for us today?
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.000]  Hi, how's it going?
[01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  You're not supposed to ask me that.
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:17.000]  You know better.
[01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:22.000]  So when I was talking about Oliver, you were talking about Oliver
[01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:26.000]  and you asked the question, why would the police think you were a threat?
[01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  I just wanted to chime in on that.
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  I have a buddy of mine who works for the Chicago Police Department,
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:37.000]  and he told me that during roll call, they called them all in
[01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  and they were talking about the people who are exercising a right to travel or sovereign citizens,
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:48.000]  and they were told that these are potentially dangerous people
[01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  and to file a national SAR initiative report on them, a suspicious activity report,
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  and then to file that with the local threat fusion center.
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.000]  So that's just a heads up.
[01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.000]  You know, we know we're not violent, right?
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.000]  Wait a minute. Hold on.
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  Who?
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.000]  Come again?
[01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  Who did they say to file this with?
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  Well, the department, and then from there it goes to the threat fusion center.
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:24.000]  It's under the Department of Homeland Security.
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  And I sent you a little Skype about that.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  You can read into that.
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:33.000]  But that's coming from an officer in the Chicago Police Department.
[01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:36.000]  He's saying, you know, we were told that the sovereign citizens
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  and the people driving around with no license are a threat.
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  So I recommend that people just tell them, you know,
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.000]  stick to Eddie's script for the first couple questions and then tell them,
[01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:54.000]  hey, no due respect, but my attorney told me to exercise my rights.
[01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:57.000]  You know, and that kind of diffuses it, I think.
[01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:07.000]  I'm trying to get people not to try to educate the police officer.
[01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:13.000]  You don't have to address these issues with the police officer
[01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  in order to exercise your rights.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  You don't have to give legal advice to the police officer.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:30.000]  They will always treat legal advice as a threat, always.
[01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:36.000]  The last time I got a ticket, the only thing I told the officer
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  when he handed me the ticket, I said, Officer Reese,
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.000]  I'm fixing to give you a romp through the legal system.
[01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:49.000]  You are not going to believe.
[01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.000]  That's it.
[01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  I didn't need to try to teach him anything.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  And because I did that, he did not have any way to construe me as a threat
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  or to construe that I was agitated or anything else
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  because I'm not telling him squat.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:18.000]  This goes to what Eddie says.
[01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:23.000]  Shut up, shut up, and keep shutting up.
[01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  Don't tell him anything.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  Do not give him fair warning.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  Just, yes, sir, yes, sir, whatever you say, sir.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  And then when he gets back a week later,
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  all of a sudden the mayor is having a conniption.
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.000]  And he's saying, what?
[01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:43.000]  What did I do?
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  Mess with the wrong guy.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:49.000]  Terry, you know, Randy, we like the police.
[01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000]  When they're pumping gas, we pull over.
[01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.000]  We do overwatch, protect them.
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  They're not the enemy.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.000]  But also we can enforce our rights politely.
[01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  You know, am I under arrest?
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:01.000]  Am I free to go?
[01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  And then I like to say, you know, no, I'll do respect.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.000]  My attorney advised me if I'm under arrest and talk to him.
[01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:13.000]  That is a really good thing to say.
[01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.000]  You know, because we put it on the attorneys.
[01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.000]  Nobody likes them anyway, right?
[01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  So they're just getting out.
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:23.000]  Let them file one of these complaints against the attorney if they want to.
[01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  We'll see how that works out for them.
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:28.000]  All right.
[01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000]  Well, anyway, I just want to give a heads up on that.
[01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  So a little firsthand intel from what the police are being told,
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:36.000]  especially in the big city here in Chicago.
[01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:39.000]  I don't know what they do down there in the woods.
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:43.000]  I suspect they do exactly the same thing.
[01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  I grew up in Chicago.
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:52.000]  And one of the reasons I wanted to get out of there is because the police frightened me.
[01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  When I was there, the police were horribly corrupt.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.000]  Mayor Daley was the mayor.
[01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  And the police could do pretty much anything they wanted to.
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:13.000]  And the last time I was in Chicago, the whole atmosphere there had changed.
[01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  But I forgot why I went there.
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:28.000]  Oh, when I'm in Dallas, the police are so incredibly aggressive.
[01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:36.000]  And one place where I was comfortable with the police department, with New York City,
[01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  the New York City police gave no indication they were afraid of me.
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  I was impressed.
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  I walked out of a bus station in Manhattan at 2 o'clock in the morning.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.000]  And there's a police car sitting there with a cop in it.
[01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.000]  And I walked up to the window and I said, hey, he's kind of startled.
[01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.000]  He looked up and said, can I help you?
[01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000]  I said, yeah, I understand it's your duty to serve and protect.
[01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  And he said, well, yeah.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.000]  Well, I need a little service.
[01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:08.000]  I need you to drive me to the airport.
[01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:10.000]  Well, I'm not going to drive you to the airport.
[01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:15.000]  Come on, guys, you're supposed to serve as well as protect.
[01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  Well, I'm not driving you to the airport.
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  Get in here and sit down.
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  We've got a bus coming in about 15 minutes.
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:23.000]  And I'll take you down to the block or two where that bus is going.
[01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:27.000]  And just no fear of me whatsoever.
[01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.000]  Not as comfortable with that guy.
[01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  I wasn't afraid he'd pull his pistol and shoot me because he was terrified.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:37.000]  New York is about the only place I saw that.
[01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:46.000]  Here in Dallas, Austin, they're training these police to be absolutely terrified of us.
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  And I don't like to see somebody terrified who's wearing a little pistol.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000]  That terrifies me.
[01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  Hang on.
[01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.000]  Dr. Buda Great, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Blu-ray Radio.
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[01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:17.000]  Hello. Oh man, in jail. You're broken. Oh man, I'm broken.
[01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  Okay, we are back. Grant Duterte and Deborah Stevens with Rule of Law Radio and we're talking to Frank in Illinois.
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  And it looks like Frank dropped off on me. I had some questions I was going to ask him about Chicago.
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:55.000]  Because frankly, when I left Chicago, I hated the place and I was gone for about 10 years and went back.
[01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  And once I was surprised at the influence that a mayor could have on a city, especially one the size of Chicago.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:17.000]  When I was in Chicago, if you walked down the street, no one would look at you. They would look past you.
[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:31.000]  Everybody seemed terrified of everybody else. I left and went back about 8 or 10 years later and it was like a whole different place.
[01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:43.000]  I went to the Science Museum, got on the wrong bus and wound up down on 63rd Street on the south side.
[01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:48.000]  And that was a black neighborhood. When I was growing up, white guys didn't go in that neighborhood.
[01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  They weren't likely to come out of that neighborhood. But the people were so open and friendly, I was absolutely astounded.
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  So I did want to question Frank about how different Chicago was from the time that I was there.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  But back to this idea of suing under 42 U.S. Code 1983 or a private attorney general suit,
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  it's becoming clear that if we're going to take things back, if we're going to correct these problems,
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:36.000]  one of the things we have to do is demonstrate to the police that not everybody's a bad guy, that some of us are good guys,
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:46.000]  some of us follow law, and some of us insist that you follow law and we don't care how afraid of us you are.
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  And I'm talking to a group in Georgia who are working to try to change things,
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:04.000]  and they're doing the same kinds of things that the Patriot Movement has been doing for a very long time.
[01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  They go and give these guys notice that what they're doing is wrong.
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  And I honestly believe that's from a naive notion that if we give them notice that things are wrong, that they will fix it.
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:32.000]  And what this group is finding is giving them notice that things are wrong doesn't fix anything.
[01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  These guys, all it does is give them fair warning and show them how to hide what they're doing better.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  And I'm going to do a presentation and the presentation is really a metaphor.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  I've been doing this show for a long time and I've been trying to develop a way to present an idea.
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  And the idea is about a different way of approaching these people.
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:15.000]  And those who've listened a long time know that I have made a rather serious study of neurolinguistic programming
[01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:27.000]  and conversational induction and a study and try to understand how human beings do what human beings do.
[01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  I have absolutely no interest in abnormal psychology.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  In studying psychology, all I can find is treatments of abnormal psychology.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  I have a very difficult time finding any treatments of normal human behavior.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:51:01.000]  It seems like nobody wants to talk about that, but how do you gauge abnormal behavior if you don't have a model of normal behavior?
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  So I spent most of my time studying psychology trying to figure out how normal human beings do what normal human beings do.
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  And one of the things that it has done is it has given me a greater acceptance and understanding of the variety of the human nature.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  That we are all dramatically different, but underlying all of that, we have some very consistent tendencies.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:53.000]  And in trying to deal with public officials, there are some things we can do that goes to how normal human beings do what normal human beings do.
[01:51:53.000 --> 01:52:00.000]  Normal human beings learn how other people react and respond to them.
[01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  In fact, the most important aspect of human interaction is predictability.
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  There's nothing more psychologically devastating to a normal human being than to have something happen and they have no idea what to do.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  They have a situation occur and they're stopped.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  Mentally, they're stopped.
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:35.000]  They go inside and they look around for a behavior to apply to this situation and they don't have one.
[01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:45.000]  That's called pattern interruption because human beings can become extremely sophisticated.
[01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  And the way we become extremely sophisticated is by developing skills in the form of patterns, by developing the ability to anticipate patterns.
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  But let's say you got a handful of books.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:03.000]  You're talking to someone else.
[01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  You're walking up a set of steps and someone has put a quarter inch sheet of plywood on one of the steps and then carpeted over it.
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:18.000]  So walking up the steps, you can't see that there's a difference there.
[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:29.000]  But when you lift your foot up and set it on that step and it stops a quarter inch from where you expect it to stop, instant pattern interruption.
[01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  The inner mind says, whoa, hold on.
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  I didn't hit that step where I expected to.
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  And whatever you were doing, it trips you out of it and grabs the inner mind, grabs your conscious awareness,
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  and has you look around at the environment you weren't paying attention to to figure out what went wrong.
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  And you look down at the step and see that the step is well formed, it's not damaged.
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.000]  Then just somebody put a little extra plate on it.
[01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:02.000]  You figure that out in a tenth of a second.
[01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:05.000]  And then you go back to what you were doing.
[01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:10.000]  Well, that is so powerful.
[01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  It is absolutely irresistible.
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  I tell the story about going to the Denton County District Attorney's Office to get the district attorney to verify some criminal complaints against the district attorney.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  They sent this young kid out and he looked at my complaints.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:33.000]  He said, I can't sign these. I'm just a PR around here.
[01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  I said, what's the matter? Chicken? Yeah.
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  So I like that guy.
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:44.000]  So they sent out the head of the criminal intake section, Roger Jones.
[01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:48.000]  I showed him to him, I'm not going to sign these. He threw them at me.
[01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:52.000]  And papers went everywhere and I'm catching them and picking them up.
[01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:57.000]  And I said, is there any special reason or are you just PO today?
[01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  I'm just not going to accept them.
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  So, okay. So I went over to the receptionist and I said, ma'am, have you got an attorney who's literate?
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  She said, huh? You got one who could write.
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  I need one to verify these criminal affidavits in accordance with their duty under Article 2.06 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:24.000]  And Roger Jones said, Mr. Kelton, you are not welcome here anymore.
[01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:30.000]  And I turned around and said, well, Mr. Jones, I feel disparaged.
[01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:37.000]  You're going to hurt my feelings. Now, what I did was not random.
[01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:49.000]  It was very specific. Roger Jones told me something that was intended to be offensive and threatening.
[01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:57.000]  And I felt it. But I, because I felt it, I didn't respond to it.
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:02.000]  I did not do what I felt like doing.
[01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  And I have this rule, whatever, somebody does something or says something and your response just comes out.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  You're being manipulated. You're being had.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:14.000]  So whatever you feel like doing, don't do it.
[01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:18.000]  And immediately something else come to mind, don't do that either.
[01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:21.000]  Do the third thing.
[01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  So when he told me I wasn't welcome here anymore, I ran the routine on him.
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:32.000]  And I said, well, Mr. Jones, I feel disparaged. You're going to hurt my feelings.
[01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:36.000]  Mr. Kelton, you're going to have to leave the building.
[01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:41.000]  And I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I just couldn't help myself.
[01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:50.000]  I said, what do you want, Mr. Jones, if you'll just bend over, I'll pull that wild hair out of you behind for you.
[01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  And you and I go back to treat one another like mature and responsible adults.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  Well, he just froze in his tracks.
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  He had no response to that.
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  He looked at me like, I don't believe you just said that to me.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  And he had about a half a dozen of his underlings behind him.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  And they all got their fingers in their mouth trying to keep from laughing out loud.
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  And I had something perfect happen.
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:25.000]  Mr. Cox, the head investigator, stepped out a side door.
[01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:29.000]  And this endowed me to make a second pattern interruption.
[01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:38.000]  If you do two pattern interruptions in a row, you give the person short-term amnesia for the first pattern interruption.
[01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:42.000]  So I turned to Mr. Cox. I said, hello, Mr. Cox. He said, hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  Mr. Cox, I see you're packing.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:49.000]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, I am. Tell me, Mr. Cox, is that pistol loaded? Yes, Mr. Kelton, it is.
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  I said, well then, let's go for a walk.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  And I held up my elbow and he took my elbow and walked me out of the building, out of the office.
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  And he said, Mr. Kelton, what did you do that for?
[01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  I said, well, I've been a long time trying to get these guys to do something really stupid.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:07.000]  Now I'm going to charge Roger Jones with aggravated assault.
[01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  Well, Mr. Kelton, I didn't assault you. I said, no, you didn't. Roger Jones assaulted me with you.
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.000]  He just shook his head, oh no.
[01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  But I interrupted Jones and most everything that I've talked about and this different way of going after these guys is about interrupting him.
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.000]  Do not give him legal advice.
[01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  Don't let him know you're coming after him.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:40.000]  Let him get interrupted by their boss when he comes and hammers them.
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:43.000]  OK, we are out of time. Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.000]  We'll be back for more of this tomorrow night.
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