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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.520]  The following use flash is brought to you by the Lone Star Lowdown.
[00:07.520 --> 00:12.680]  Markets for Monday, the 16th of May, 2016, are currently trading with gold at $1,272.20
[00:12.680 --> 00:20.640]  an ounce, silver $17.12 an ounce, Texas crude $46.21 a barrel, and Bitcoin is currently
[00:20.640 --> 00:29.360]  sitting at about 458 U.S. currency.
[00:29.360 --> 00:35.400]  Today in history, the year 1918, the Sedition Act is passed by U.S. Congress, making criticism
[00:35.400 --> 00:37.120]  of the government an imprisonable offense.
[00:37.120 --> 00:42.640]  An expansion of the Espionage Act of 1917, it bans speech and the expression of opinion
[00:42.640 --> 00:46.760]  that casts the government or the war effort in a negative light, of course, excused by
[00:46.760 --> 00:49.880]  the perceived interference with the sale of government bonds.
[00:49.880 --> 00:57.960]  The end of free speech in the U.S. during wartime, today in history.
[00:57.960 --> 01:02.680]  In recent use, a Texas openly gay church pastor, Jordan Brown, wrote a statement today that
[01:02.680 --> 01:05.080]  Whole Foods, the company, did nothing wrong.
[01:05.080 --> 01:08.840]  This is after he back in April had requested a cake from the All Natural Organic grocery
[01:08.840 --> 01:12.880]  store with the phrase love wins on it, but then claimed that he received a cake with
[01:12.880 --> 01:14.480]  an added homophobic slur.
[01:14.480 --> 01:17.920]  Brown said in the statement today, quote, I want to apologize to Whole Foods and its
[01:17.920 --> 01:21.640]  team members for questioning the company's commitment to its values, and especially the
[01:21.640 --> 01:26.120]  Baker associate, who I understand was put in a terrible position because of my actions.
[01:26.120 --> 01:30.680]  I apologize to the LGBT community for diverting attention from real issues.
[01:30.680 --> 01:35.400]  I also want to apologize to my partner, my family, my church family, and my attorney.
[01:35.400 --> 01:38.720]  Whole Foods filed a countersuit against Brown and hasn't stated whether it would drop the
[01:38.720 --> 01:45.680]  action now that Brown has dropped his frivolous lawsuit.
[01:45.680 --> 01:50.240]  The University of Miami has detected a radioactive isotope produced by nuclear reactors in Basquiat
[01:50.240 --> 01:53.560]  Bay, spiking at 200 times higher than normal level.
[01:53.560 --> 01:58.080]  At the Turkey Point nuclear power plant located just south of Miami, confirming suspicion
[01:58.080 --> 02:02.200]  that Turkey Point's aging canals are leaking into the nearby national park.
[02:02.200 --> 02:06.240]  South Miami Mayor Philip Stoddard, who is also a biological science professor at the
[02:06.240 --> 02:10.800]  Florida International University, told the Miami New Times, quote, you have to work hard
[02:10.800 --> 02:14.960]  to find your worst place to put a nuclear plant right between two national parks and
[02:14.960 --> 02:17.080]  subject to hurricanes and storm surge.
[02:17.080 --> 02:21.560]  Laura Reynolds, an environmental consultant who worked with the Tropical Auto Bond Society
[02:21.560 --> 02:25.840]  and the Southern Alliance for Clean Energy, which intends to file a lawsuit, stated that,
[02:25.840 --> 02:30.040]  quote, we know now exactly where the pollution is coming from and we have a tracer that shows
[02:30.040 --> 02:31.320]  it is in the national park.
[02:31.320 --> 02:34.680]  We are worried about the marine life there and the future of the Basquiat Bay.
[02:34.680 --> 02:38.080]  This leak comes only several months after New York Governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledged
[02:38.080 --> 02:42.840]  that the state's Indian Point nuclear facility was leaking tritium into the local groundwater.
[02:42.840 --> 02:46.940]  The Indian Point nuclear power plant is located on the Hudson River, approximately 25 miles
[02:46.940 --> 02:52.280]  north of New York City, and serves the electrical needs of an estimated two million people.
[02:52.280 --> 03:20.840]  This is Rick Roady with your Lowdown for May 16th, 2016.
[03:20.840 --> 03:30.580]  What you gonna do, what you gonna do, bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you
[03:30.580 --> 03:36.420]  gonna do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna
[03:36.420 --> 03:38.420]  do when they come for you.
[03:38.420 --> 03:43.900]  When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rules,
[03:43.900 --> 03:46.420]  so why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.420 --> 03:52.380]  And if you get high and your mouth gets cool, bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what
[03:52.380 --> 03:58.380]  you gonna do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna
[03:58.380 --> 04:00.380]  do when they come for you.
[04:00.380 --> 04:04.900]  You took it on that one, you took it on this one, you took it on your mother and you took
[04:04.900 --> 04:06.900]  it on your father, you took it on your father.
[04:06.900 --> 04:07.900]  Okay.
[04:07.900 --> 04:08.900]  Howdy, howdy.
[04:08.900 --> 04:09.900]  This is Randy Kelton.
[04:09.900 --> 04:21.740]  That packed on this Friday the 13th, May the 13th, 2016.
[04:21.740 --> 04:26.300]  I don't know if Fridays are supposed to be bad luck or not, but I've had pretty good
[04:26.300 --> 04:34.060]  luck here lately and this Friday hasn't happened much, except for that's there in the background
[04:34.060 --> 04:37.300]  and she's having a little technical difficulty.
[04:37.300 --> 04:38.300]  We can hear her.
[04:38.300 --> 04:43.260]  She didn't quite hear us yet, but we should have that up here shortly.
[04:43.260 --> 04:52.260]  I'm gonna start out going through another section on the ebook that I'm working on.
[04:52.260 --> 05:00.380]  There in doing the show that I've been doing for several years and addressing issues people
[05:00.380 --> 05:02.900]  have.
[05:02.900 --> 05:10.580]  There are some truths and understandings that have worked themselves out from between the
[05:10.580 --> 05:17.940]  cracks and these are the things that for the most part you're not taught in civics class.
[05:17.940 --> 05:30.900]  I keep getting reminded of that passage from, I think it's Kodachrome by Paul and Simon
[05:30.900 --> 05:38.340]  and Garfunkel where he says, after all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder
[05:38.340 --> 05:40.340]  I can think at all.
[05:40.340 --> 05:45.900]  Well, if you pay attention to what they tell you in civics class about all these great
[05:45.900 --> 05:52.220]  and wonderful rights you have, they give you the impression that these great and wonderful
[05:52.220 --> 05:59.700]  rights are just automatic and everybody out there is there for the purpose of protecting
[05:59.700 --> 06:02.460]  and securing your rights for you.
[06:02.460 --> 06:11.540]  Forget about that because, and we all know that because we spend 12 years in a government
[06:11.540 --> 06:14.760]  mandated school system.
[06:14.760 --> 06:16.660]  We don't choose it.
[06:16.660 --> 06:25.700]  We are required by our government to experience it and while we're experiencing this government
[06:25.700 --> 06:29.860]  mandated school system, we're told about all the great and wonderful rights that we
[06:29.860 --> 06:30.860]  have.
[06:30.860 --> 06:37.900]  But at the same time, it is made very clear to us.
[06:37.900 --> 06:44.900]  Don't you even imagine trying to exert those rights while you're in this school?
[06:44.900 --> 06:51.660]  Because if you do that, the whole way of the system will land right square on your head.
[06:51.660 --> 06:58.500]  So we put our children through 12 years of government mandated school system.
[06:58.500 --> 07:02.780]  And then we let them out here in the real world.
[07:02.780 --> 07:12.220]  And for the most part, people don't have anything to do with public officials anymore until
[07:12.220 --> 07:20.660]  or if or until they wind up being subjected to our courts, either criminal or civil.
[07:20.660 --> 07:26.460]  And the first time someone's drug into court or the first time someone files a suit in
[07:26.460 --> 07:30.700]  court, they will get a whole new education.
[07:30.700 --> 07:38.060]  And for the most part, they will have no clue as to what's coming at them.
[07:38.060 --> 07:45.620]  And most people feel frightened, intimidated and betrayed.
[07:45.620 --> 07:56.980]  And these three combinations can cause people to want to avoid these systems at all costs.
[07:56.980 --> 08:02.980]  That's part of the reason our public officials in the criminal justice system has been able
[08:02.980 --> 08:14.060]  to achieve a 99.6% conviction rate.
[08:14.060 --> 08:21.140]  Nobody takes the deal because the system has been designed to force you into a position
[08:21.140 --> 08:28.960]  to where a reasonable person of ordinary prudence has no reasonable options other than to take
[08:28.960 --> 08:31.500]  the deal.
[08:31.500 --> 08:34.360]  And civil is not much better.
[08:34.360 --> 08:39.820]  We expect these judges to be fair and just.
[08:39.820 --> 08:47.180]  And that is just absolutely wrong headed.
[08:47.180 --> 08:53.460]  From the very beginning, our expectations are just simply wrong.
[08:53.460 --> 09:01.660]  And last week, I talked about, I started out talking about some of the common fallacies.
[09:01.660 --> 09:06.300]  And I won't go into those this week, I may do that again in another week or so.
[09:06.300 --> 09:15.020]  But here I'm going to talk about stuff that don't teach in law school or in high school,
[09:15.020 --> 09:18.020]  civics class.
[09:18.020 --> 09:27.180]  And to start with, if you're going to have a chance in court, you're going to need to
[09:27.180 --> 09:33.620]  understand how the courts really work and develop some methodologies that will allow
[09:33.620 --> 09:36.700]  you to maneuver through their complex system.
[09:36.700 --> 09:48.220]  While the court system is complex, it's not beyond understanding because it is consistent.
[09:48.220 --> 09:54.260]  And when last week when I talked about going to court and expecting the judge to be fair,
[09:54.260 --> 09:56.340]  do not expect the judge to be fair.
[09:56.340 --> 09:59.660]  Do not expect the judge to be just.
[09:59.660 --> 10:08.180]  We don't want our judges being fair and just, because that implies that they get to juxtapose
[10:08.180 --> 10:12.380]  their concept of fairness and justice on the rule of law.
[10:12.380 --> 10:16.580]  I want that judge determining the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence and
[10:16.580 --> 10:18.540]  applying the law as it comes to him with the facts in the case.
[10:18.540 --> 10:24.260]  I am not interested in his personal perception of justice.
[10:24.260 --> 10:27.700]  That's what we had in the common law.
[10:27.700 --> 10:32.180]  When this country fixed that, there's no more of that common law nonsense where a judge
[10:32.180 --> 10:35.460]  can rule any way he wants to.
[10:35.460 --> 10:37.220]  We wanted him bound by statute.
[10:37.220 --> 10:44.420]  It is not the judge who is there to bring justice, it is the legislature.
[10:44.420 --> 10:53.100]  It's their job to so design the laws so that they result in the just adjudication of cases.
[10:53.100 --> 10:59.060]  So I want that judge to follow law and I don't care what his opinion is about it.
[10:59.060 --> 11:02.500]  Well, that's a primary fallacy.
[11:02.500 --> 11:10.500]  Once we understand that part, then we go back and look at how the system is really, how
[11:10.500 --> 11:12.740]  it actually works.
[11:12.740 --> 11:16.340]  The system was not from the judge's perspective.
[11:16.340 --> 11:21.900]  It's not intended to be just, but it's intended to be consistent.
[11:21.900 --> 11:27.380]  And in the overall scheme of things, consistency is what we need.
[11:27.380 --> 11:34.420]  Now, if the law brings in the inconsistent or unjust outcome, then we need to go to our
[11:34.420 --> 11:40.820]  legislators and have them change the law to fix whatever problem it has and then we have
[11:40.820 --> 11:45.660]  our judges enforce the law the way we enacted it.
[11:45.660 --> 11:52.660]  Okay, the real world though, lawyers and judges do whatever they want unless they're called
[11:52.660 --> 11:56.020]  on their behavior.
[11:56.020 --> 12:01.380]  Lawyers and judges, they pretty well control their system.
[12:01.380 --> 12:06.340]  I mean, if you're a mechanic and somebody brings you a car and you get somebody like
[12:06.340 --> 12:13.380]  me that thinks he knows something, then you got that guy coming out there telling you
[12:13.380 --> 12:16.500]  what you should do when you know what you should do.
[12:16.500 --> 12:20.500]  You want to say, go ahead and leave me alone, let me do my job.
[12:20.500 --> 12:24.180]  Lawyers and judges, when they deal with the class, they want you to leave alone, let them
[12:24.180 --> 12:25.180]  do their job.
[12:25.180 --> 12:32.860]  And that would be okay if we had adequate checks and balances, but we don't.
[12:32.860 --> 12:41.700]  It would be okay if we didn't have so many lawyers that lawyers are put in a position
[12:41.700 --> 12:48.180]  into where they have to create litigation when it's not necessary because they need work.
[12:48.180 --> 12:51.220]  We're graduating 40,000 lawyers a year.
[12:51.220 --> 12:58.460]  The United States has more lawyers per capita than any other country in the world.
[12:58.460 --> 13:05.980]  That's part of the reason we have a 99.6% conviction rate and why this country is the most litigious
[13:05.980 --> 13:09.180]  country in the world by far.
[13:09.180 --> 13:18.580]  We as potential pro se litigants, so even as litigants with a lawyer, we need to understand
[13:18.580 --> 13:23.060]  these facts about how the system really works.
[13:23.060 --> 13:29.980]  So this is the primary position to come to the courts from is that the courts are not
[13:29.980 --> 13:31.420]  there to serve your interest.
[13:31.420 --> 13:38.420]  They're there to serve the interests of the judges and the lawyers.
[13:38.420 --> 13:45.420]  Now to the part, this kind of goes to what they don't teach you in law school.
[13:45.420 --> 13:52.820]  When lawyers go to law school, I've talked to lawyers and it costs between 150,000 and
[13:52.820 --> 14:03.260]  200,000 to get a law degree and a good portion of these lawyers will have $150,000, $180,000
[14:03.260 --> 14:04.260]  student loan to pay off.
[14:04.260 --> 14:08.300]  You got to get her to make some money.
[14:08.300 --> 14:14.980]  Now they go to law school, I'm sure that they went to law school because they wanted to
[14:14.980 --> 14:15.980]  be like Perry Mason.
[14:15.980 --> 14:20.020]  They wanted to be able to help people find justice.
[14:20.020 --> 14:27.420]  But when they get out in the real world, they find they got to make money.
[14:27.420 --> 14:36.620]  And the profession of lawyer is a profession, it's their job and they need to get paid for
[14:36.620 --> 14:37.620]  their job.
[14:37.620 --> 14:43.460]  So they're not going to do anything to jeopardize their ability to make money.
[14:43.460 --> 14:49.140]  And that certainly includes not doing anything to annoy that judge.
[14:49.140 --> 14:51.620]  Okay, the whole system is about money.
[14:51.620 --> 14:57.500]  The lawyer very quickly learns that he is a salesman.
[14:57.500 --> 15:02.740]  First and foremost, he's got to bring in clients.
[15:02.740 --> 15:07.340]  And unfortunate part about that, there are so many lawyers who are struggling so hard
[15:07.340 --> 15:08.340]  to get clients.
[15:08.340 --> 15:13.860]  It's been most of the time I'm trying to get clients and a very small amount of their time
[15:13.860 --> 15:16.740]  adjudicating cases.
[15:16.740 --> 15:24.900]  What they wind up doing is specializing in very finely honed areas of law.
[15:24.900 --> 15:31.900]  So in this area of law, they have all the motions and pleadings that they use in these
[15:31.900 --> 15:32.900]  cases.
[15:32.900 --> 15:34.920]  They've already got them in their files.
[15:34.920 --> 15:40.660]  So almost anything that normally comes up in the adjudication of your case, they've
[15:40.660 --> 15:46.460]  already got their motions in there and their pleadings and their responses to the other
[15:46.460 --> 15:51.540]  motions because the other guy's going to file the same thing all the time.
[15:51.540 --> 15:54.020]  They're going to file the same responses back and forth.
[15:54.020 --> 15:57.100]  And this is what winds up happening.
[15:57.100 --> 16:02.220]  And the very worst place is family law.
[16:02.220 --> 16:07.980]  This is a good example, you've got two people that are very angry at each other and they
[16:07.980 --> 16:08.980]  go see a lawyer.
[16:08.980 --> 16:14.140]  And the first thing the lawyer wants is a retainer, but that's what he really wants.
[16:14.140 --> 16:22.060]  He gets that retainer and he's got these standard little things he does to use up your retainer.
[16:22.060 --> 16:25.140]  And in family law, they get past the retainer.
[16:25.140 --> 16:29.540]  Generally, you get a lawyer and you're telling about your case and he tells you, oh yeah,
[16:29.540 --> 16:33.460]  you got all these claims, you can do this, that and the other, you give him your retainer.
[16:33.460 --> 16:40.500]  When he uses up your retainer, then he comes to you and he tells you the real deal.
[16:40.500 --> 16:44.700]  Then for the most part, he wants to get rid of you and I'll explain why when we come back.
[16:44.700 --> 16:51.700]  Randy Kelton, VetPak, Wheel of Law Radio, I call it number 512-646-1984.
[16:51.700 --> 16:54.420]  I'm opening up the phone lines, we'll keep them open all night.
[16:54.420 --> 17:00.660]  So give us a call, question or comment, we'll be right back.
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[19:05.860 --> 19:26.580]  LogosRadioNetwork.com Okay, how dare you cut me off.
[19:26.580 --> 19:28.580]  Oh, I see how you are.
[19:28.580 --> 19:30.180]  Yes, I am.
[19:30.180 --> 19:32.860]  I'm real good at that.
[19:32.860 --> 19:36.100]  You're supposed to open the door for the ladies.
[19:36.100 --> 19:40.500]  Yes, ma'am, you are right.
[19:40.500 --> 19:46.100]  What I forgot to address is we need to give out the date.
[19:46.100 --> 19:49.100]  It marks the end.
[19:49.100 --> 19:54.860]  Today's date is May 20th, 2016 is 819.
[19:54.860 --> 19:56.300]  Welcome to Rule of Law Radio.
[19:56.300 --> 19:59.540]  You've got Randy Kelton and Zet Pack.
[19:59.540 --> 20:04.100]  Looks like we've got a caller on the phone.
[20:04.100 --> 20:09.580]  From now on, Zet is going to run the show and I'm just going to do what I'm told.
[20:09.580 --> 20:16.380]  Yes, and I'm going to get a clip and I'm going to clip her little lips while I'm speaking.
[20:16.380 --> 20:18.860]  Now we have Robert on the line.
[20:18.860 --> 20:20.700]  We'd like to bring him on.
[20:20.700 --> 20:24.060]  Are we ready to do that Mr. Randy?
[20:24.060 --> 20:25.060]  I am ready.
[20:25.060 --> 20:29.060]  Okay, let's bring him on then.
[20:29.060 --> 20:30.060]  Okay.
[20:30.060 --> 20:31.060]  Hello, Robert.
[20:31.060 --> 20:32.060]  Hi.
[20:32.060 --> 20:40.420]  I had a couple of tickets actually, but the two I want to talk to you about tonight was
[20:40.420 --> 20:41.420]  registration.
[20:41.420 --> 20:49.300]  I told the judge that I was challenging jurisdiction and they assumed it and inserted it and even
[20:49.300 --> 20:55.860]  when in pretrial, okay, I asked them, I told them I needed legal counsel, he said that
[20:55.860 --> 20:56.860]  it was denied.
[20:56.860 --> 20:58.380]  I didn't have a right to it.
[20:58.380 --> 21:01.940]  And after that, since I didn't have a right to legal counsel, I asked them what's the
[21:01.940 --> 21:06.140]  cause of action and who's in your party, I mean, what's the jurisdiction going to be
[21:06.140 --> 21:09.780]  used, you know, so I could understand the legal intent and do the research.
[21:09.780 --> 21:12.700]  And he didn't give that to me.
[21:12.700 --> 21:17.620]  He didn't have to answer, he said, okay.
[21:17.620 --> 21:25.020]  Filed a motion for strike and dismiss and O'Connally, he's like the head judge out
[21:25.020 --> 21:34.460]  here in California, in Sacramento and he denied my motion and in the motion, I asked for finding
[21:34.460 --> 21:38.700]  a fact and conclusion of law and I didn't get that either, okay.
[21:38.700 --> 21:45.620]  When I went to actual court, okay, the officer lied in court and I called him on it and told
[21:45.620 --> 21:49.940]  the judge that he was committing aggravated perjury and the judge didn't do anything about
[21:49.940 --> 21:50.940]  it.
[21:50.940 --> 21:57.660]  He said that he stopped me for or that I was free to go, okay, because I was on the side
[21:57.660 --> 21:58.660]  of a road.
[21:58.660 --> 22:05.340]  I wasn't driving, I was parked, I put my ladder back on top of my truck from looking for a
[22:05.340 --> 22:11.580]  leak on my RV and they threatened to tow all my consumer goods if I didn't cooperate with
[22:11.580 --> 22:12.580]  them.
[22:12.580 --> 22:16.860]  And they're asking me about the right to travel and stuff like that, not trying to show them
[22:16.860 --> 22:20.700]  about it because they heard about me talking about that, you know, they're pretty much
[22:20.700 --> 22:24.540]  harassing me and what do you call it?
[22:24.540 --> 22:26.820]  Wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
[22:26.820 --> 22:29.620]  They heard about you talking about that.
[22:29.620 --> 22:34.460]  Yeah, because other officers, I'm like the water cooler conversation.
[22:34.460 --> 22:39.260]  Oh, okay, so they already knew who you were.
[22:39.260 --> 22:43.100]  Yeah, they knew who I was.
[22:43.100 --> 22:47.460]  And they asked you questions about right to travel, that is interesting.
[22:47.460 --> 22:49.300]  Okay, go ahead.
[22:49.300 --> 22:57.220]  To show them Eddie Craig rule of law, I mean, not Eddie Craig rule of law, but Carl Miller
[22:57.220 --> 22:58.220]  right to travel.
[22:58.220 --> 23:00.220]  He said, what am I supposed to do, watch that?
[23:00.220 --> 23:04.860]  I said, no, just listen to it because he was asking about it and I was trying to show him
[23:04.860 --> 23:11.460]  and it doesn't matter whether to him, okay, he said, just because we have to register
[23:11.460 --> 23:17.660]  our vehicle, okay, you have to register yours, it didn't matter to them whether I was operating
[23:17.660 --> 23:21.540]  in a public benefit or commerce for hire or profit.
[23:21.540 --> 23:22.540]  He didn't care.
[23:22.540 --> 23:25.420]  Okay, I told him I was going to sue him, he said he didn't care.
[23:25.420 --> 23:26.420]  Okay.
[23:26.420 --> 23:33.300]  Oh, I can assure you that was not true.
[23:33.300 --> 23:45.420]  They really, really care when they get sued, especially if they asked you about this issue.
[23:45.420 --> 23:52.020]  That indicates that they knew they had pre-knowledge before they stopped you and they stopped based
[23:52.020 --> 23:53.020]  on this issue.
[23:53.020 --> 23:58.420]  I think you have a great case for a lawsuit against them.
[23:58.420 --> 24:02.860]  He said I wasn't, I was free to go, but as soon as he started writing up a ticket for
[24:02.860 --> 24:07.540]  registration, I wasn't free to go until I signed that ticket, right?
[24:07.540 --> 24:08.540]  Yeah.
[24:08.540 --> 24:14.300]  And the judge, when the judge allowed the officer to testify and do all this thing,
[24:14.300 --> 24:18.860]  and when it came my turn to do my thing and ask the officer questions, there were two
[24:18.860 --> 24:24.020]  officers and I asked one of them to leave so I could ask them separately, okay?
[24:24.020 --> 24:29.700]  And I started to ask my questions to one of the officers and the judge started interrupting
[24:29.700 --> 24:34.980]  me a lot and I was having a hard time because I get, when I get interrupted, I got to get
[24:34.980 --> 24:40.660]  reset and part of dyslexic and maybe dependencies.
[24:40.660 --> 24:46.060]  But where was I again?
[24:46.060 --> 24:48.500]  He didn't allow me to ask all my questions.
[24:48.500 --> 24:54.340]  I was trying to bring up a lot of Eddie's questions, cross-examination questions, and
[24:54.340 --> 24:57.420]  the judge wouldn't allow me to ask them, okay?
[24:57.420 --> 24:58.740]  He said, what relevance is that?
[24:58.740 --> 25:01.060]  And I told him, well, I'll get to that, okay?
[25:01.060 --> 25:03.020]  And he, there was no one behind me.
[25:03.020 --> 25:06.060]  They always put me as the very last person in court.
[25:06.060 --> 25:07.860]  I've noticed that.
[25:07.860 --> 25:10.780]  I know the feeling.
[25:10.780 --> 25:12.420]  They put me as the very last person in court.
[25:12.420 --> 25:13.420]  There was no one behind me.
[25:13.420 --> 25:16.820]  There was no excuse for them to hurry up other than wanting to get out of there and go to
[25:16.820 --> 25:19.220]  lunch or something like that, okay?
[25:19.220 --> 25:21.500]  Just get out of there, okay?
[25:21.500 --> 25:25.620]  And he said, I got to expedite trial and all that stuff.
[25:25.620 --> 25:29.260]  He didn't allow me to ask all my questions and properly defend myself, okay?
[25:29.260 --> 25:33.020]  I told him, well, you're going to take up for the officer here, you know, you're going
[25:33.020 --> 25:37.500]  to deny me in a due process, which they've already done by not asking my, not answering
[25:37.500 --> 25:45.820]  my questions, cause of action and jurisdiction and denying me a legal counsel, okay?
[25:45.820 --> 25:51.620]  I've read where it says, if they deny you due process, jurisdiction ceases immediately.
[25:51.620 --> 25:52.620]  Precisely.
[25:52.620 --> 25:56.780]  Getting off on setting up another court date.
[25:56.780 --> 26:03.940]  Okay, here we're talking, okay, let's back up to the beginning here.
[26:03.940 --> 26:07.420]  After you received the ticket, they ordered you to appear in court, okay?
[26:07.420 --> 26:11.780]  This is California law, so it's somewhat different than Texas.
[26:11.780 --> 26:21.340]  But as I understand, California law is absolutely commercial, like most everywhere else.
[26:21.340 --> 26:26.900]  So when the officer wrote the ticket, did you give him notice that you were not in commerce?
[26:26.900 --> 26:33.460]  No, I didn't say, Eddie says don't try and educate the cops.
[26:33.460 --> 26:35.860]  Yeah, yeah, and I agree with that.
[26:35.860 --> 26:43.900]  I was just, because that there was an interaction going on, it appears as though, did the police
[26:43.900 --> 26:46.460]  officer raise a question about commerce?
[26:46.460 --> 26:53.500]  No, he didn't, although I did tell O'Connelly, the head judge, that I wasn't operating in
[26:53.500 --> 26:55.500]  commerce, okay?
[26:55.500 --> 27:01.700]  And in my appeal or my emotion to dismiss it, I put it in there and along with not in
[27:01.700 --> 27:03.180]  a public benefit.
[27:03.180 --> 27:09.300]  Okay, here's the way we do that.
[27:09.300 --> 27:18.420]  The citation itself, the officer in order to be able to invoke subject matter jurisdiction
[27:18.420 --> 27:27.140]  of the court, the complaint must be sufficient in that it must show evidence to indicate
[27:27.140 --> 27:32.020]  that you fall within the statutory scheme.
[27:32.020 --> 27:40.980]  Was there any evidence stated in the complaint to indicate that the officer had reason to
[27:40.980 --> 27:43.660]  believe that you were operating in commerce?
[27:43.660 --> 27:53.220]  No, the only thing they asserted is 4000A1 of the vehicle code, which is under the transportation
[27:53.220 --> 27:54.220]  code.
[27:54.220 --> 27:55.220]  Okay.
[27:55.220 --> 27:56.220]  So?
[27:56.220 --> 27:57.220]  That's my understanding.
[27:57.220 --> 28:00.820]  Okay, so your challenge is to subject matter jurisdiction.
[28:00.820 --> 28:01.820]  Ed?
[28:01.820 --> 28:02.820]  Yes.
[28:02.820 --> 28:03.820]  Court, did you?
[28:03.820 --> 28:04.820]  I did.
[28:04.820 --> 28:05.820]  Did you?
[28:05.820 --> 28:06.820]  Okay, hold on.
[28:06.820 --> 28:11.940]  If I'm talking and you talk, we have a suppressor on the system that pushes your voice down
[28:11.940 --> 28:12.940]  below me.
[28:12.940 --> 28:15.340]  So, I'm going to get a little piece of it.
[28:15.340 --> 28:19.180]  Okay, what did you want to say?
[28:19.180 --> 28:22.540]  In pretrial, I challenge jurisdiction, okay, and they never proved it.
[28:22.540 --> 28:28.980]  There's no record of proof that there's a jurisdiction.
[28:28.980 --> 28:29.980]  Okay.
[28:29.980 --> 28:33.740]  Hold on, let's back up to pretrial.
[28:33.740 --> 28:42.260]  Have you looked in the California code to see what authority the court has to order
[28:42.260 --> 28:43.940]  you to appear?
[28:43.940 --> 28:47.220]  No, I haven't.
[28:47.220 --> 28:48.820]  You might want to look at that.
[28:48.820 --> 28:57.100]  In Texas law, you can be ordered to appear before a magistrate.
[28:57.100 --> 29:02.900]  That's the primary thing, and when you sign the citation, I expect that California is
[29:02.900 --> 29:03.900]  the same as here.
[29:03.900 --> 29:10.460]  You sign for the purpose of agreeing to appear before a magistrate, not a judge.
[29:10.460 --> 29:16.180]  In order for the judge to get subject matter jurisdiction over the case, there has to be
[29:16.180 --> 29:21.860]  an examining trial and a determination of probable cause by a neutral magistrate.
[29:21.860 --> 29:26.060]  This comes from the Fed, and it equally applies to all states.
[29:26.060 --> 29:30.180]  So you go before the magistrate, the magistrate makes a determination of probable cause and
[29:30.180 --> 29:38.340]  he forwards the records to the court of jurisdiction, and it is that order from the magistrate
[29:38.340 --> 29:40.140]  that gives the court jurisdiction.
[29:40.140 --> 29:41.140]  So-
[29:41.140 --> 29:44.620]  Randy, we're going to have to take a minute.
[29:44.620 --> 29:45.620]  Okay.
[29:45.620 --> 29:46.620]  Are you ready?
[29:46.620 --> 29:47.620]  I am ready.
[29:47.620 --> 29:48.620]  Okay.
[29:48.620 --> 29:49.620]  We will be right back.
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[33:18.620 --> 33:19.620]  Welcome back.
[33:19.620 --> 33:22.540]  This is Rule of Law Radio with Randy Kelton, Vet Pack.
[33:22.540 --> 33:30.420]  It is May 28, 2016, and we are speaking with Robert out of California.
[33:30.420 --> 33:31.420]  Hello Robert.
[33:31.420 --> 33:32.420]  Hello.
[33:32.420 --> 33:33.420]  Okay.
[33:33.420 --> 33:42.980]  When we went out, I'm kind of, when I address traffic issues, you always, or any issue in
[33:42.980 --> 33:50.220]  court, you always start at the beginning and work methodically from the start to the finish.
[33:50.220 --> 33:55.900]  The first thing is the court has to establish subject matter jurisdiction.
[33:55.900 --> 34:02.740]  You will get a trial de novo from this case once you appeal it.
[34:02.740 --> 34:09.980]  The first thing you want to have is a motion to strike the pleading as insufficient.
[34:09.980 --> 34:20.340]  Have you looked up the code for California that addresses the right to travel or the
[34:20.340 --> 34:23.500]  commercial nature of the traffic code?
[34:23.500 --> 34:24.500]  Yeah.
[34:24.500 --> 34:27.900]  I did look up a lot of that.
[34:27.900 --> 34:30.780]  I don't have it memorized, I have to look at it.
[34:30.780 --> 34:31.780]  Okay.
[34:31.780 --> 34:32.780]  Hold on, Robert.
[34:32.780 --> 34:34.980]  Move your mic down by your chin a little bit.
[34:34.980 --> 34:41.420]  You're kind of, the mic is kind of distorting there.
[34:41.420 --> 34:43.380]  Better?
[34:43.380 --> 34:46.860]  Much better.
[34:46.860 --> 34:52.660]  When the mic gets too hot, it clips off the top part and it, I'm old, I don't hear the
[34:52.660 --> 34:55.660]  top part anyway.
[34:55.660 --> 34:58.740]  I'm getting younger anyway.
[34:58.740 --> 35:00.740]  Much better, much better.
[35:00.740 --> 35:01.740]  Okay.
[35:01.740 --> 35:06.820]  So, we, have you, okay, you haven't been to trial yet?
[35:06.820 --> 35:12.940]  Yeah, I've been to trial, he found me guilty, even in pre-trial they entered a plea for
[35:12.940 --> 35:16.740]  me and they said I was incompetent to enter a plea when I was just trying to ask questions
[35:16.740 --> 35:17.740]  and understand.
[35:17.740 --> 35:19.220]  So, I knowingly and intelligently plea.
[35:19.220 --> 35:22.860]  I told him I would like to plea, but I need some questions answered.
[35:22.860 --> 35:26.420]  I almost dropped my jaw when he said he was going to answer them, but he lied when I came
[35:26.420 --> 35:30.500]  back in with the questions and he didn't allow me to ask them verbally myself.
[35:30.500 --> 35:35.100]  He wanted to look at the questions and he said I don't have to answer those.
[35:35.100 --> 35:39.500]  Have you filed a judicial conduct complaint against the judge?
[35:39.500 --> 35:41.140]  I'm getting ready to.
[35:41.140 --> 35:44.660]  Okay, that should, that should be right up there on the list.
[35:44.660 --> 35:53.580]  Here in Texas, every governmental agency comes up for sunset every 13 years, I think, something
[35:53.580 --> 35:59.140]  like that, 12, 13, 14, something like that, and the State Bar Association is coming up
[35:59.140 --> 36:03.380]  for sunset this year, they have to justify their existence.
[36:03.380 --> 36:09.660]  And most people get down there and complain about how corrupt the Bar Association is.
[36:09.660 --> 36:13.740]  Well, I'm going to go down and speak before the committee, but I'm not going to complain
[36:13.740 --> 36:16.300]  about how corrupt the Bar Association is.
[36:16.300 --> 36:19.740]  I'm going to tell them it's wonderful that you're corrupt.
[36:19.740 --> 36:33.100]  So this is the only agency where the people licensed regulate themselves.
[36:33.100 --> 36:36.020]  So I'm going to tell them keep this up, guys.
[36:36.020 --> 36:45.480]  You have so deteriorated the legal profession, the 20% of all cases are now represented by
[36:45.480 --> 36:53.260]  proceeds because they can't trust lawyers, and it's very well established that if I file
[36:53.260 --> 36:58.100]  a bar grievance against a lawyer, the State Bar is going to get that grievance, they're
[36:58.100 --> 36:59.660]  going to throw it in the trash.
[36:59.660 --> 37:01.660]  And that is a good thing.
[37:01.660 --> 37:02.660]  That's a wonderful thing.
[37:02.660 --> 37:06.740]  And the reason it's a good thing is their insurance carrier knows they'll throw it in
[37:06.740 --> 37:07.740]  the trash.
[37:07.740 --> 37:13.220]  So how does the insurance carrier get to their level of risk by valid bar grievances?
[37:13.220 --> 37:16.020]  I think they throw them all in the trash.
[37:16.020 --> 37:22.420]  By the numbers, one bar grievance your first year in practice, they will cancel immediately.
[37:22.420 --> 37:25.220]  Two bar grievances any one year of practice, they'll cancel.
[37:25.220 --> 37:27.820]  Three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[37:27.820 --> 37:32.820]  And if they don't cancel, they'll almost double what they charge you, and they start
[37:32.820 --> 37:35.820]  with like 25 grand a year.
[37:35.820 --> 37:39.460]  So go ahead, Bubba, screw up all you want to.
[37:39.460 --> 37:46.060]  You know, I have a website that's down at the moment, but I'm about to bring it back
[37:46.060 --> 37:49.940]  up, and this one's called Lawyer Complaints.
[37:49.940 --> 37:54.940]  And I do this radio show in Austin, and this is what I'm telling the legislators.
[37:54.940 --> 37:58.940]  And I tell everybody, bar grieve your lawyers.
[37:58.940 --> 38:02.180]  Bar grieve them every time they move.
[38:02.180 --> 38:06.180]  Bar grieve them because they part their hair on the wrong side.
[38:06.180 --> 38:15.100]  Okay, it's unfair that if you bar grieve a lawyer, even if you file a worthless, invalid
[38:15.100 --> 38:19.460]  bar grievance, the insurance company is going to sting them anyway.
[38:19.460 --> 38:22.820]  Well, sorry, guys, you created this mess.
[38:22.820 --> 38:27.600]  You weren't able to regulate yourself, and you created this weakness for yourself.
[38:27.600 --> 38:33.140]  So I'm advising that people bar grieve you lawyers every chance they get.
[38:33.140 --> 38:39.820]  And if the lawyer says anything about you bar grieving him, you bar grieve him for that.
[38:39.820 --> 38:45.180]  File valid bar grievances, file invalid bar grievances, who cares?
[38:45.180 --> 38:52.420]  So point is, you grieve that lawyer, it's going to sting him big time.
[38:52.420 --> 38:58.420]  The judges, almost all judges in municipal courts are also lawyers.
[38:58.420 --> 39:04.780]  First thing I always ask the judge, are you a bar card carrying attorney?
[39:04.780 --> 39:08.780]  When they say, yes, I am, I grin real big at them.
[39:08.780 --> 39:11.900]  Oh, goody.
[39:11.900 --> 39:16.460]  The only reason he can be a municipal judge is because he has a bar card.
[39:16.460 --> 39:17.780]  So I hold him under the bar card.
[39:17.780 --> 39:25.780]  I suggest that you file a judicial conduct complaint against him, and a bar complaint
[39:25.780 --> 39:31.540]  against him for each improper action.
[39:31.540 --> 39:34.620]  You don't group them all together.
[39:34.620 --> 39:39.300]  Each action, you file a separate bar grievance, and you file them like a week apart.
[39:39.300 --> 39:44.620]  You file them all at once, the borrower will get them and treat them as one, and they'll
[39:44.620 --> 39:46.100]  oppress them all as one.
[39:46.100 --> 39:50.180]  But if you file them a week apart, you can't do that.
[39:50.180 --> 39:54.940]  You just start dribbling them in, one after the other.
[39:54.940 --> 39:57.140]  And look at the code.
[39:57.140 --> 40:04.260]  Look at the code from the perspective of the master of the servants.
[40:04.260 --> 40:06.340]  They're the servants, you're the master.
[40:06.340 --> 40:11.540]  You've laid down a law for them to follow, and they want to follow policy instead.
[40:11.540 --> 40:16.100]  I recently told a Texas ranger, he told me he was going to follow a policy.
[40:16.100 --> 40:21.460]  I said, well, you can follow a policy, but as far as I'm concerned, you can use your
[40:21.460 --> 40:24.420]  policy for toilet paper.
[40:24.420 --> 40:28.420]  You got a policy, I got a code.
[40:28.420 --> 40:37.660]  You will follow my code, or I will exercise my remedies, which include judicial conduct,
[40:37.660 --> 40:44.460]  bar grievance, malpractice suit, grand jury complaints.
[40:44.460 --> 40:56.620]  One of our call screeners, Scott, he is stacking them up, and the problem you will have will
[40:56.620 --> 41:01.140]  not be finding criminal complaints to file against these guys.
[41:01.140 --> 41:07.740]  The problem will be sorting through them because there will be so many.
[41:07.740 --> 41:10.660]  They do everything wrong.
[41:10.660 --> 41:18.140]  When you go in as the defendant, you go in with a certain set of expectations.
[41:18.140 --> 41:29.260]  I suggest you go in with two hats on, a defendant's hat and a master's hat.
[41:29.260 --> 41:36.100]  Each time you can coax them into stepping across a legal line, gotcha.
[41:36.100 --> 41:42.260]  Whatever you do, don't give them fair notice.
[41:42.260 --> 41:48.380]  I've got this routine, I call my routine a tar baby.
[41:48.380 --> 41:53.500]  I've got this little tar baby, but it's invisible, you can't see it.
[41:53.500 --> 41:58.820]  When I go before a public official, I've got my hand out and I've got this tar baby sitting
[41:58.820 --> 42:03.860]  on my hand, and I go to the official and I say, here, I got this tar baby, do you want
[42:03.860 --> 42:04.860]  to touch it?
[42:04.860 --> 42:05.860]  Here, go ahead, touch it.
[42:05.860 --> 42:07.580]  I want you to touch it.
[42:07.580 --> 42:16.740]  I ask them to do something, and never ask a public official to do anything you actually
[42:16.740 --> 42:28.220]  want them to do because you never ask a public official to do anything that the law does
[42:28.220 --> 42:31.540]  not require him to do.
[42:31.540 --> 42:37.420]  If you ask him to do something the law does not require him to do or specifically authorized,
[42:37.420 --> 42:39.780]  he can't do it anyway.
[42:39.780 --> 42:45.660]  I ask them to do things the law requires them to do, and when they don't do it, wonderful.
[42:45.660 --> 42:51.380]  I don't tell them, I don't give them legal advice and I don't give them fair notice.
[42:51.380 --> 42:55.660]  I am not reasonable and I am not understanding.
[42:55.660 --> 43:02.660]  You will follow my law or I will take you to a legal task, and the way I do that is
[43:02.660 --> 43:05.100]  I go to the next guy.
[43:05.100 --> 43:09.260]  When the judge said I couldn't look at these records because I was a security risk, I turned
[43:09.260 --> 43:11.300]  to the bailiff and said, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[43:11.300 --> 43:13.620]  Yes, Mr. Kelker and I did.
[43:13.620 --> 43:14.620]  Arrest that woman.
[43:14.620 --> 43:16.620]  Why can't you arrest her?
[43:16.620 --> 43:17.620]  This is her court.
[43:17.620 --> 43:18.620]  Oh, you are mistaken.
[43:18.620 --> 43:25.500]  This is my court, and I very generously allow her to administer it in accordance with my
[43:25.500 --> 43:28.940]  law, and she just violated one of them, arrest her.
[43:28.940 --> 43:31.180]  See, I don't talk to her anymore.
[43:31.180 --> 43:33.300]  She stood there and kept her mouth shut.
[43:33.300 --> 43:34.300]  He wouldn't arrest her.
[43:34.300 --> 43:35.300]  He took me to his boss.
[43:35.300 --> 43:37.300]  I asked his boss to arrest him.
[43:37.300 --> 43:38.300]  Are you ready?
[43:38.300 --> 43:39.300]  I am ready.
[43:39.300 --> 43:48.780]  Sorry, we are going to have to put Randy on hold because we will be right back.
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[46:10.300 --> 46:23.900]  We are back with Randy Tilton, Vet Pack, Rule of Law Radio.
[46:23.900 --> 46:26.900]  Randy, would you like to continue where you left off?
[46:26.900 --> 46:32.500]  Yes, ma'am, I certainly would, with your permission.
[46:32.500 --> 46:43.460]  Okay, Robert, this is kind of a routine we do, and the reason we do this is it terrifies
[46:43.460 --> 46:45.580]  them.
[46:45.580 --> 46:54.340]  We want them to think that your only purpose coming to court is to set them up.
[46:54.340 --> 47:00.420]  And once you've done this a time or two, when you walk in the door, you can hear everybody
[47:00.420 --> 47:02.820]  get stiff.
[47:02.820 --> 47:08.020]  You can hear them screeching down, oh no, it's them again, because you know, most...
[47:08.020 --> 47:12.460]  I can do that because when they send me to the find room, they send an officer with me
[47:12.460 --> 47:14.460]  unlike everybody else.
[47:14.460 --> 47:19.540]  Oh, when they send an officer with me, oh, that is wonderful.
[47:19.540 --> 47:25.500]  I went to the district court in Travis County in Austin.
[47:25.500 --> 47:27.940]  They know me real well.
[47:27.940 --> 47:32.540]  I go in through the metal detector thing, and then I go get in the elevator, and two
[47:32.540 --> 47:36.260]  bailiffs come in, and they position themselves behind me.
[47:36.260 --> 47:41.780]  And I look back at one, look back at the other, and I said, oh, this is wonderful.
[47:41.780 --> 47:42.780]  I have security.
[47:42.780 --> 47:44.780]  I said, I'm glad you guys are here.
[47:44.780 --> 47:49.660]  I said, I'm going up to the eighth floor, and I forget the name of the judge, and I'm
[47:49.660 --> 47:55.500]  going to go into that court, and he's going to refuse to perform his duty.
[47:55.500 --> 47:58.700]  And when he does, I'm going to want you guys to arrest him.
[47:58.700 --> 48:01.540]  So I need your security today.
[48:01.540 --> 48:06.220]  The thing stopped at the sixth floor, and these two guys split, wait a minute, guys,
[48:06.220 --> 48:07.220]  come back.
[48:07.220 --> 48:08.220]  I need security.
[48:08.220 --> 48:10.420]  They hit the road.
[48:10.420 --> 48:14.780]  Did they send a bailiff to stand behind me?
[48:14.780 --> 48:18.300]  I will find a reason to say, Mr. Bailiff, did you hear that?
[48:18.300 --> 48:20.580]  Yes, Mr. Kelton, I did.
[48:20.580 --> 48:22.820]  Arrest that judge.
[48:22.820 --> 48:28.900]  I have asked a bailiff a number of times to arrest a judge when he's on the bench.
[48:28.900 --> 48:34.220]  And one of them was a district judge, who was really upset at me.
[48:34.220 --> 48:41.100]  And every time I've done that, the judge sits there and keeps his mouth shut.
[48:41.100 --> 48:46.920]  Because he knows this just got really, really serious.
[48:46.920 --> 48:51.100]  Because the bailiff's duty is to keep the peace in the courtroom.
[48:51.100 --> 48:53.020]  He thinks he's there working for the judge.
[48:53.020 --> 48:54.020]  He's doing no such thing.
[48:54.020 --> 48:55.020]  He works for the sheriff.
[48:55.020 --> 48:59.340]  And he's there to keep the peace, and it makes no difference who breaches it.
[48:59.340 --> 49:05.380]  If it's a judge that breaches it, his duty is the same as if you breach it.
[49:05.380 --> 49:09.020]  When you ask him to arrest a judge, then he's going to refuse.
[49:09.020 --> 49:14.020]  And I get into this back and forth and say, well, life is filled with little decisions.
[49:14.020 --> 49:16.300]  We all get to make some.
[49:16.300 --> 49:21.700]  You can either perform your duty as prescribed by law, or you can shield that judge from
[49:21.700 --> 49:22.700]  prosecution.
[49:22.700 --> 49:28.940]  I always use the statute, you can refuse to perform your duty under Article 2.13 Code
[49:28.940 --> 49:31.140]  of Criminal Procedure.
[49:31.140 --> 49:36.860]  Or you can shield that judge from prosecution in violation of 38.05 Texas penal code.
[49:36.860 --> 49:37.860]  Your call.
[49:37.860 --> 49:44.060]  I was audiotaping the commissioner, and he said we weren't on the record.
[49:44.060 --> 49:47.420]  I said, it's okay, I got it right here, and then he sent a bailiff over there to take
[49:47.420 --> 49:50.300]  my phone from me and delete my audio.
[49:50.300 --> 49:51.300]  Ooh.
[49:51.300 --> 50:00.700]  Now that's, you need to, when you get out, next time take two recorders.
[50:00.700 --> 50:04.140]  Show them one, hide the other one.
[50:04.140 --> 50:10.500]  You can get these, if you go on the internet, you can order voice-only recorders.
[50:10.500 --> 50:16.100]  I don't have any use for a video.
[50:16.100 --> 50:21.300]  It doesn't show much, and it uses up too much battery, so you only get about 30 minutes
[50:21.300 --> 50:26.980]  if you got a spy phone, a spy recorder or something.
[50:26.980 --> 50:33.500]  A voice recorder will record 90 something hours, and these little tiny recorders, they
[50:33.500 --> 50:34.860]  pick up really good.
[50:34.860 --> 50:37.540]  I've got one that looks just like a USB drive.
[50:37.540 --> 50:49.100]  It actually is a USB drive, but it's also a recorder, and it really picks up nice sound.
[50:49.100 --> 50:55.460]  So you go in, and I have that, I've got a little press pass that I clip it to, so it's
[50:55.460 --> 51:00.820]  hanging there on the press pass, and you go in with your phone, and then when they tell
[51:00.820 --> 51:03.820]  you to turn the phone off, they never think to tell you to turn the second one.
[51:03.820 --> 51:06.080]  They never think about a second one.
[51:06.080 --> 51:16.180]  We had a guy from New York call us in and play the audio from the second recorder, where
[51:16.180 --> 51:23.580]  the officers are trying to figure out how to erase the audio on the first recorder.
[51:23.580 --> 51:25.780]  Now that was a hoot.
[51:25.780 --> 51:29.980]  Okay, never tell them that you're recording.
[51:29.980 --> 51:34.300]  If they ask, if they want to see your phone, they want you to shut your phone off.
[51:34.300 --> 51:36.340]  Don't argue with that, shut the phone off.
[51:36.340 --> 51:39.100]  Then they think they're clear.
[51:39.100 --> 51:42.980]  Never tell them that you made a recording.
[51:42.980 --> 51:48.940]  Once you leave the court, there are things like CallGraph and some other programs that
[51:48.940 --> 51:56.100]  will listen to your audio and turn it into a transcript, so you can run it through one
[51:56.100 --> 51:57.100]  of these programs.
[51:57.100 --> 52:03.780]  CallGraph is free, you can just download it, and then it gets some errors, but you can
[52:03.780 --> 52:06.340]  go in and correct it.
[52:06.340 --> 52:12.780]  Then you go in with the transcript, and you quote what they said verbatim.
[52:12.780 --> 52:20.020]  The reason you do it that way is you want to go them into addressing your memory.
[52:20.020 --> 52:27.260]  I was doing this in court, and I was stating exactly what was said, and it was two years
[52:27.260 --> 52:33.300]  earlier that it was said, and he said, are you sure, the opposing counsel said, are you
[52:33.300 --> 52:37.540]  sure that's what was said, oh yeah, I'm absolutely positive, well, Mr. Kelton, you must have
[52:37.540 --> 52:41.420]  a perfect memory, oh no, I have a horrible memory.
[52:41.420 --> 52:45.260]  When I said that, the judge kind of ducked his head and put his head in his hand because
[52:45.260 --> 52:48.100]  he already knew what I was doing.
[52:48.100 --> 52:51.100]  He saw the transcript I had in front of me, I was reading from.
[52:51.100 --> 52:57.300]  The lawyer never snapped, he didn't pick up on it, so the judge kind of ducked his head
[52:57.300 --> 53:01.100]  and said, ooh, you're stepping into this one, and he said, you must have a perfect memory,
[53:01.100 --> 53:05.940]  oh no, I have a terrible memory, well then, Mr. Kelton, how do you know this is exactly
[53:05.940 --> 53:10.980]  what was said, oh, I took it off the transcript, transcript, what transcript, the one I made
[53:10.980 --> 53:18.140]  from the audio recording, objection, objection, no, no, counselor, the judge said, you opened
[53:18.140 --> 53:28.300]  this door, Mr. Kelton gets to walk through it, so that's what you want to, go ahead.
[53:28.300 --> 53:36.980]  After I told him that he was incompetent to hear this case, because when I asked him if
[53:36.980 --> 53:40.500]  this is a civil case or criminal case, he said, I don't have to answer that, and then
[53:40.500 --> 53:45.140]  I realized it was a civil case, I told him he's incompetent to hear this case as a judicial
[53:45.140 --> 53:49.700]  officer, and he said, we're not on the record, and I said, okay, so I got it right here.
[53:49.700 --> 54:02.300]  Okay, don't do that again, that goes to never give them fair warning, so you assure him,
[54:02.300 --> 54:12.460]  yes, we are on the record, you're on the record of my memory, the trial, a trial from a municipal
[54:12.460 --> 54:22.500]  court to a county court is trial de novo, and they say it's a do-over, however, it's
[54:22.500 --> 54:29.380]  not actually a do-over, it is trial de novo not for the purpose of shielding them from
[54:29.380 --> 54:36.260]  their improper behaviors in this court, it's trial de novo specifically for the purpose
[54:36.260 --> 54:47.300]  of perfecting appeal, that means you can appeal without having to claim error, however, they
[54:47.300 --> 54:53.460]  are still responsible for their behavior in this court, and if they make a statement in
[54:53.460 --> 55:02.820]  this court that was injudicious or would go to collateral estoppel, you can bring that
[55:02.820 --> 55:09.980]  into the next court, if the officer made a statement of fact in the first court and he
[55:09.980 --> 55:15.580]  comes to the second court and tries to state an opposing fact, maybe he made a mistake
[55:15.580 --> 55:20.740]  or he lied in front of the municipal court judge, he doesn't want to lie in front of
[55:20.740 --> 55:27.380]  the county judge, he changes his testimony, he charges him with aggravated perjury, and
[55:27.380 --> 55:33.260]  they'll say, oh, this is trial de novo, well, maybe it is, but only for the purpose of perfecting
[55:33.260 --> 55:40.220]  appeal, and I've done that in court before, that really tenses up to prosecute you.
[55:40.220 --> 55:45.620]  I got to get a copy of the audio of the officers appearing to stop, that way I can prove that
[55:45.620 --> 55:50.260]  he was lying, actually both cases that were lying that I was going to talk to you about,
[55:50.260 --> 56:00.060]  but I'm sure I only have time for one though. Did you request the audio? Do I got to request
[56:00.060 --> 56:06.020]  that from the police station or do they keep telling me I got to do a pitches motion? No,
[56:06.020 --> 56:15.940]  you just do a motion to the court, a discovery motion to the court. Okay. This is, you actually
[56:15.940 --> 56:21.700]  send a request to the prosecutor and ask for this information when he refuses to give it,
[56:21.700 --> 56:26.140]  then you file an action with the court, but since you've already been through, okay, have
[56:26.140 --> 56:32.940]  you appealed this yet? No, I had the appeal failed out the day before I went to court
[56:32.940 --> 56:36.180]  because I knew they were going to go against me, but I had to make some adjustments to
[56:36.180 --> 56:42.420]  it because of how, what was important. Okay. And your notice of appeal is simply a notice
[56:42.420 --> 56:48.780]  and this, you don't have to claim any kind of grounds for appeal here. I hereby give
[56:48.780 --> 56:53.860]  a notice to the court of land to appeal and you give that to them. So just make sure that's
[56:53.860 --> 56:59.900]  in and you go into trial, you go into a second trial, they're going to have to do this all
[56:59.900 --> 57:07.180]  over again. You need this information before you go to court. So request it from the prosecutor
[57:07.180 --> 57:12.380]  when he refuses, bar grieving, file a motion for sanctions with the court, which they're
[57:12.380 --> 57:20.300]  going to deny of course, and then file a motion to compel discovery. This you have an absolute
[57:20.300 --> 57:26.620]  right to, so if they try to bring you to trial prior to them producing discovery, then you
[57:26.620 --> 57:33.740]  charge them with abuse of process. Just start jacking up the criminal charges on them. All
[57:33.740 --> 57:38.460]  you got to do is read the code. The code is real clear on what they're supposed to do
[57:38.460 --> 57:45.100]  and when they violate any portion of that, wonderful. You just nail them for it. Every
[57:45.100 --> 57:53.980]  judicial conduct complaint against that judge will terrify him because the municipal court
[57:53.980 --> 58:02.740]  judges think that the state commission on judicial conduct only sanctions municipal court judges.
[58:02.740 --> 58:08.860]  They never sanction the elected judges and they are right. That's exactly what they do.
[58:08.860 --> 58:13.940]  They throw these guys under the bus to protect the elected judges. So these guys are terrified
[58:13.940 --> 58:20.940]  of judicial conduct complaints. So when we come back, we're going to, that's going to
[58:20.940 --> 58:25.540]  have something for you about the lawyers. You had a question about that. We'll get to
[58:25.540 --> 58:32.660]  that. Okay. All right. Are you ready? All right. I'm ready. Yes. I think it's time
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[01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:35.460]  Today in history the year 1918 the Sedition Act is passed by U.S. Congress making criticism
[01:00:35.460 --> 01:00:40.740]  of the government an imprisonable offense. An expansion of the Espionage Act of 1917
[01:00:40.740 --> 01:00:44.900]  it banned speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort
[01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:49.060]  in a negative light of course excused by the perceived interference with the sale of government
[01:00:49.060 --> 01:00:58.420]  bonds. The end of free speech in the U.S. during wartime today in history. In recent
[01:00:58.420 --> 01:01:03.300]  news a Texas openly gay church pastor Jordan Brown wrote a statement today that Whole Foods
[01:01:03.300 --> 01:01:07.620]  the company did nothing wrong. This is after he back in April had requested a cake from
[01:01:07.620 --> 01:01:11.780]  the all natural organic grocery store with the phrase love wins on it but then claimed
[01:01:11.780 --> 01:01:16.180]  that he received a cake with an added homophobic slur. Brown said in the statement today quote
[01:01:16.180 --> 01:01:19.700]  I want to apologize to Whole Foods and its team members for questioning the company's
[01:01:19.700 --> 01:01:23.620]  commitment to its values and especially the Baker associate who I understand was put in
[01:01:23.620 --> 01:01:29.380]  a terrible position because of my actions. I apologize to the LGBT community for diverting
[01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:33.980]  attention from real issues. I also want to apologize to my partner my family my church
[01:01:33.980 --> 01:01:37.980]  family and my attorney. Whole Foods filed a countersuit against Brown and hasn't stated
[01:01:37.980 --> 01:01:45.740]  whether it would drop the action now that Brown has dropped his frivolous lawsuit. The
[01:01:45.740 --> 01:01:50.420]  University of Miami has detected a radioactive isotope produced by nuclear reactors in Basquiat
[01:01:50.420 --> 01:01:55.540]  Bay spiking at 200 times higher than normal level at the Turkey Point nuclear power plant
[01:01:55.540 --> 01:02:00.300]  located just south of Miami confirming suspicion that Turkey Point's aging canals are leaking
[01:02:00.300 --> 01:02:05.220]  into the nearby national park. South Miami mayor Philip Stoddard who is also a biological
[01:02:05.220 --> 01:02:09.820]  science professor at the Florida International University told the Miami New Times quote
[01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:14.220]  you have to work hard to find a worse place to put a nuclear plant right between two national
[01:02:14.220 --> 01:02:19.100]  parks and subject to hurricanes and storm surge. Laura Reynolds an environmental consultant
[01:02:19.100 --> 01:02:23.500]  who worked with the Tropical Auto Bond Society and the Southern Alliance for Clean Energy
[01:02:23.500 --> 01:02:27.780]  which intends to file a lawsuit stated that quote we know now exactly where the pollution
[01:02:27.780 --> 01:02:31.700]  is coming from and we have a tracer that shows it is in the national park. We are worried
[01:02:31.700 --> 01:02:35.300]  about the marine life there and the future of the Basquiat Bay. This leak comes only
[01:02:35.300 --> 01:02:39.020]  several months after New York Governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledged that the state's Indian
[01:02:39.020 --> 01:02:43.460]  Point nuclear facility was leaking tritium into the local groundwater. The Indian Point
[01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:47.820]  nuclear power plant is located on the Hudson River approximately 25 miles north of New
[01:02:47.820 --> 01:02:54.540]  York City and serves the electrical needs of an estimated 2 million people. This is
[01:02:54.540 --> 01:03:22.900]  a look roadie with your lowdown for May 16, 2016.
[01:03:22.900 --> 01:03:30.020]  We are back. You are listening to Rule of Law Radio with Randy Kelton that we are finishing
[01:03:30.020 --> 01:03:35.820]  up a call with Robert from California. Randy would you like to take over?
[01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:42.300]  Okay. Okay. I've kind of I think you kind of got the idea on the criminal complaint
[01:03:42.300 --> 01:03:49.500]  and bar grievances. You're the pro se litigant. You have powers and abilities far beyond those
[01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:58.460]  of mortal lawyers. And you did mention that you asked for court appointing counsel and
[01:03:58.460 --> 01:04:02.300]  that had a question about that. Bet you want to address that?
[01:04:02.300 --> 01:04:10.020]  Yes, I do. In past calls, we have I've heard lots of listeners that have been very knowledgeable
[01:04:10.020 --> 01:04:14.900]  actually more knowledgeable than me. So I raised the question. A lot of times they're
[01:04:14.900 --> 01:04:24.180]  saying that having counsel could actually hurt you. So I wanted to know, you know, when
[01:04:24.180 --> 01:04:32.860]  you're asking for legal help or representation, you know, the way that they responded was
[01:04:32.860 --> 01:04:39.500]  bad so on them. But I would think that actually you might not want to have legal representation.
[01:04:39.500 --> 01:04:45.700]  No, I wanted to set him as second seat not first seat.
[01:04:45.700 --> 01:04:51.300]  I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I wanted to I didn't want him representing
[01:04:51.300 --> 01:04:56.300]  me. Okay. I wanted a legal counsel. I wanted him as second seat.
[01:04:56.300 --> 01:05:05.300]  Okay, so you're actually pardon me with my touch because I'm learning. But if you were
[01:05:05.300 --> 01:05:11.200]  to have said that you actually got him, they appointed this person for you. Would you have
[01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:17.460]  written a letter stating that, you know, you basically didn't want him there? There's something
[01:05:17.460 --> 01:05:23.460]  that we that Randy you guys speak of about writing some later letter to the lawyer stating
[01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:28.940]  that they can't. You have something to do with them or, you
[01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:38.740]  know, I'm saying let me address that. If you hire counsel, especially in traffic, you can
[01:05:38.740 --> 01:05:49.780]  expect counsel to throw you under the bus. Okay, okay, there is a way to handle counsel.
[01:05:49.780 --> 01:05:57.420]  And that's with the power of bar grievance. My last case in Austin, where the Secretary
[01:05:57.420 --> 01:06:05.900]  of State and the Secretary of State, the DPS acting security for the Capitol Building came
[01:06:05.900 --> 01:06:13.380]  to the Secretary of State's office at my on my call, my 911 call, and wound up smashing
[01:06:13.380 --> 01:06:20.220]  my face into the building and cracking one of my teeth and then arrested me.
[01:06:20.220 --> 01:06:26.820]  And when I went to court, the judge asked me if I had court appointed if I had counsel
[01:06:26.820 --> 01:06:34.020]  I said no, said Mr. Keltner, you go to secure counsel? No. Would you like me to appoint
[01:06:34.020 --> 01:06:39.180]  counsel? I don't care what you do. So she appointed me counsel. First thing I did was
[01:06:39.180 --> 01:06:44.140]  told that lawyer he's we sat down and he's told me how things are going to go. And I
[01:06:44.140 --> 01:06:47.940]  finally stopped him. I said, No, no, no, no, that's not how they're going to go. And he
[01:06:47.940 --> 01:06:50.780]  said, Well, Mr. Keltner, this is how things are going to go. This is how they're going
[01:06:50.780 --> 01:06:56.380]  to go. You're going to go to the judge and ask the judge to remove you from this case.
[01:06:56.380 --> 01:07:03.020]  And I'm going to go to the judge and ask the judge and tell the judge that he is my counsel
[01:07:03.020 --> 01:07:07.260]  of choice and he's under contract and don't you dare remove him from this case. And the
[01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:10.740]  lawyer said, Well, Mr. Keltner, I'm not on contract with you. I'm under contract with
[01:07:10.740 --> 01:07:17.260]  the state. Yes, you are. But I'm the intended third party beneficiary. So I have standing
[01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:21.620]  under the contract and the judge is going to remove you. He said, Yes, you will. Then
[01:07:21.620 --> 01:07:26.980]  I get to sue the judge for interfering with a private contract. He sat back in his seat
[01:07:26.980 --> 01:07:35.420]  and looked at me. But this looked at said, he's going to get me disbarred. The way you
[01:07:35.420 --> 01:07:41.660]  handle your own lawyer is to give your lawyer plausible deniability.
[01:07:41.660 --> 01:07:54.460]  The district attorney never showed up in court. He was the judge and the officer and I objected
[01:07:54.460 --> 01:08:03.180]  on the record to the commissioner actually operating at trying the case and being a trier
[01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:13.220]  of fact also. In some states, they're statutorily authorized to do that. They can ask questions
[01:08:13.220 --> 01:08:22.820]  of witnesses and essentially adjudicate the case. And in some states, they authorized
[01:08:22.820 --> 01:08:28.580]  the officer to act as the prosecutor. I think New Mexico was one of them. I'm not sure
[01:08:28.580 --> 01:08:35.460]  about California. Do you know what the law says on that?
[01:08:35.460 --> 01:08:44.620]  No, I was told by somebody to object to the case and trier of fact that, you know, like
[01:08:44.620 --> 01:08:58.820]  that one site I told somebody about earlier. You should read the criminal procedure. Robert,
[01:08:58.820 --> 01:09:03.140]  it's not as big as it appears because its outline forms a lot of white space. You can
[01:09:03.140 --> 01:09:08.180]  go through it rather quickly. You should read through it. You will be surprised what you
[01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:15.020]  find in there and how much easier this will get once you're somewhat familiar with the
[01:09:15.020 --> 01:09:23.380]  code. And a quick read will read like a comic book. You'll be laughing and giggling at
[01:09:23.380 --> 01:09:28.100]  all the things you can hammer them for. Randy, would you repeat again what you said
[01:09:28.100 --> 01:09:35.780]  he want him to read? Read the California criminal procedure code.
[01:09:35.780 --> 01:09:42.180]  Okay, thanks. You read fast. I generally suggest that you
[01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:46.940]  read it twice. You just read through it. Don't try to understand it. Just read it and then
[01:09:46.940 --> 01:09:53.380]  go back and read it a second time and all these pieces will start fitting together.
[01:09:53.380 --> 01:10:00.500]  This is what I did when I started taking them on and they did not want to get in front of
[01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:06.740]  me because I knew their code a lot better than they did. I had my prosecuting attorney
[01:10:06.740 --> 01:10:11.460]  tell me once when he had to look up a code I cited to him. I said, Greg, you ought to
[01:10:11.460 --> 01:10:16.220]  be ashamed of yourself having to look that up. He said, well, Mr. Shelton, I've read
[01:10:16.220 --> 01:10:23.180]  the whole thing. I said, what? He's the prosecuting attorney. I said, you ought to be ashamed
[01:10:23.180 --> 01:10:28.660]  of yourself. And he said, well, Mr. Shelton, I don't know of a single attorney who's read
[01:10:28.660 --> 01:10:37.580]  the whole thing. That's pitiful. But that's the truth. These lawyers only know what they
[01:10:37.580 --> 01:10:43.460]  do. They don't know the code. You read the code, just read it quickly. You'll know more
[01:10:43.460 --> 01:10:48.060]  than they do. I'm going to read it more than twice.
[01:10:48.060 --> 01:10:55.180]  Yeah, just read it twice. Read the first time because they put this code together and they
[01:10:55.180 --> 01:10:59.940]  try to put it together in a way that makes sense. But sometimes a code in the front is
[01:10:59.940 --> 01:11:04.300]  referring to something in the back. And when you read it, it doesn't make sense until you
[01:11:04.300 --> 01:11:09.900]  read the code in the back that it's referring to. So that's why I read the whole thing once
[01:11:09.900 --> 01:11:14.700]  and then go back and read it again. And now when you come to this code and you read it
[01:11:14.700 --> 01:11:19.820]  and you'll say, oh, now I understand what they're referring to. Then you start stitching
[01:11:19.820 --> 01:11:32.060]  this thing together. And if you look on jurisimprudence.com, front page, top left frog, there's a bunch
[01:11:32.060 --> 01:11:38.180]  of frogs on the front of this. I call it the frog farm conspiracy. Top frog on the left
[01:11:38.180 --> 01:11:46.780]  goes to a habeas corpus that I wrote for a kid in Montgomery County. And it walks down
[01:11:46.780 --> 01:11:54.780]  due process. You read through that, you'll be amazed. The statutory due process is nothing
[01:11:54.780 --> 01:12:00.380]  like what happens in court. But once you've been through that, that'll give you a good
[01:12:00.380 --> 01:12:07.780]  idea of how the pieces fit together. It's written on Texas law, but it's primarily based
[01:12:07.780 --> 01:12:15.020]  on federal law. And all through it, most of it's federal law. In any California law, you
[01:12:15.020 --> 01:12:21.380]  can cross reference to California. Once you understand how the process is supposed
[01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:30.260]  to work, then when you step in there and they do something other than what the process requires,
[01:12:30.260 --> 01:12:34.740]  because they've made all of these adjustments toward administrative convenience and adjudicative
[01:12:34.740 --> 01:12:45.460]  expediency, you are the master. They are the servant. It's your duty to police the servants.
[01:12:45.460 --> 01:12:52.500]  You ask the police to police you, but we don't give them the same courtesy. You go ahead,
[01:12:52.500 --> 01:12:53.500]  Robert.
[01:12:53.500 --> 01:12:57.460]  I think it's our duty to sting them and make them right.
[01:12:57.460 --> 01:13:05.540]  Exactly. And it's better if you sting them over something really tiny. It makes them
[01:13:05.540 --> 01:13:12.820]  crazy. I annoyed my district judge and he threatened to have me arrested and had a bailiff
[01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:21.100]  come over and the bailiff put his hand on my arm. Bad move, bubba. I now have in front
[01:13:21.100 --> 01:13:27.540]  of the grand jury for Wise County, Texas, first degree felony aggravated assault charges
[01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:33.540]  against that judge for doing that. And he's thinking, what in the world is going on? I
[01:13:33.540 --> 01:13:39.980]  didn't have him arrested. He just walked up and touched him. When he touched me, I looked
[01:13:39.980 --> 01:13:44.500]  down and said, I see you're wearing a pistol. Yes, I am. Tell me, is that pistol loaded?
[01:13:44.500 --> 01:13:49.460]  And then the judge told the bailiff to back off because he knew I was setting him up.
[01:13:49.460 --> 01:13:56.460]  But his problem was that belt already been rung and he can't unring it. Now he's wondering
[01:13:56.460 --> 01:14:04.020]  if a grand jury is going to end his career or next week. Good. He should wonder. So the
[01:14:04.020 --> 01:14:09.460]  smaller it is, the better because the more devastating to him it is. They have to do
[01:14:09.460 --> 01:14:13.620]  something really horrible. They expect to get beat up. But when they're following this
[01:14:13.620 --> 01:14:20.340]  garbage policy, I really like to file against officials for following policy because it
[01:14:20.340 --> 01:14:26.420]  makes them crazy. I filed against the Texas ranger for giving my complaint against the
[01:14:26.420 --> 01:14:33.460]  judge to the prosecuting attorney instead of a grand jury or some magistrate. And he's
[01:14:33.460 --> 01:14:41.100]  just following policies, doing what he's supposed to. Sorry, bubba. Life is tough. Code is what
[01:14:41.100 --> 01:14:45.980]  the code is. And you can use your policy for toilet paper.
[01:14:45.980 --> 01:14:51.940]  I didn't get questions of the second officer either. So I mean, I was just able to ask
[01:14:51.940 --> 01:14:57.900]  a portion of my questions to the first officer and he found me guilty.
[01:14:57.900 --> 01:15:06.500]  Well that's okay. Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:11.980]  I suggest you have a sheet there with all your questions on it and you mark them off
[01:15:11.980 --> 01:15:17.420]  and you make notes. Every time you ask a question and they answer, you make a note. Every time
[01:15:17.420 --> 01:15:21.620]  the judge does something you don't like, you reach over and pick up this other document
[01:15:21.620 --> 01:15:26.260]  you got, judicial conduct complaints, and have a heading on the top real big so they
[01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:31.740]  can see it and make a notation. When the prosecutor does something you like, you take the bar
[01:15:31.740 --> 01:15:38.940]  grievance side, make a notation. It'll make them nuts. They're used to people not having
[01:15:38.940 --> 01:15:44.100]  a clue as to what's going on. They are not used to somebody deliberately setting them
[01:15:44.100 --> 01:15:48.460]  up. So your only purpose-
[01:15:48.460 --> 01:15:49.460]  Randy.
[01:15:49.460 --> 01:15:50.460]  Yes.
[01:15:50.460 --> 01:15:55.700]  Sorry. Would you repeat that one more time? You said judicial something. He needs to look
[01:15:55.700 --> 01:15:56.700]  at the-
[01:15:56.700 --> 01:15:58.700]  Judicial conduct complaints.
[01:15:58.700 --> 01:16:00.700]  Okay. Thank you.
[01:16:00.700 --> 01:16:08.420]  The judge has a set of judicial canons that he's required to follow. And every time you
[01:16:08.420 --> 01:16:14.620]  file against him for one of these, it raises his bond rating. They get three or four of
[01:16:14.620 --> 01:16:19.540]  these against the judge, the judge is out. They can't afford him because their bonding
[01:16:19.540 --> 01:16:25.140]  company, it's an insurance company, will bump up their rates for him every time he gets
[01:16:25.140 --> 01:16:29.320]  a complaint against him. Same thing with a lawyer. Lawyer starts at like 25 grand a year
[01:16:29.320 --> 01:16:33.020]  for malpractice insurance. One bar grievance, they double it.
[01:16:33.020 --> 01:16:37.060]  That's all about the politics, you're right.
[01:16:37.060 --> 01:16:40.500]  It's all about the money.
[01:16:40.500 --> 01:16:45.260]  We are about to have to take break. Are you ready?
[01:16:45.260 --> 01:16:47.260]  I am ready.
[01:16:47.260 --> 01:16:53.660]  Right. We will be right back with the rule of law radio. Randy Kelton, Zet Pack, please
[01:16:53.660 --> 01:17:01.900]  call us 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:29.060 --> 01:19:39.460]  We are back with Rule of Law Radio. You've got Randy Kelton, Vet Pack. Randy, would
[01:19:39.460 --> 01:19:42.820]  you like to finish speaking with Robert California?
[01:19:42.820 --> 01:19:51.620]  Yes. Robert, have you written down a timeline of everything that's going on?
[01:19:51.620 --> 01:19:59.580]  As best as my memory can be until I get the records from the stop.
[01:19:59.580 --> 01:20:06.020]  Okay. Memory sucks. Recent research I read on memory was really surprising, but it was
[01:20:06.020 --> 01:20:15.580]  also, it elucidated some serious problems that we all have with memory. They're using
[01:20:15.580 --> 01:20:23.660]  this date rape drug. Date rape drug will cause your mind not to store memory. They were doing
[01:20:23.660 --> 01:20:29.020]  some experiments with it and what they've determined from using it was, is the way we
[01:20:29.020 --> 01:20:38.340]  access memory is that we don't go in our mind and read what happened. We go in our mind
[01:20:38.340 --> 01:20:47.700]  and we get the experience and we rehab the experience and then we put it back. Problem
[01:20:47.700 --> 01:20:56.660]  is most everybody has told a story at one time or another and somebody said, did that
[01:20:56.660 --> 01:21:03.620]  really happen to you? And you sit back and think, I don't remember. I don't remember
[01:21:03.620 --> 01:21:07.300]  if that actually happened to me or somebody else told me because you've told it so many
[01:21:07.300 --> 01:21:13.780]  times and when you told the story, whether it happened to you or not was not really relevant.
[01:21:13.780 --> 01:21:21.980]  So you went and got that story. We experienced it as you told it and you left out pieces
[01:21:21.980 --> 01:21:28.380]  of information that weren't relative to this context. Well, it turns out when you get it,
[01:21:28.380 --> 01:21:33.460]  it takes it out of the brain and if you don't put it back, it's lost. And that's what happened
[01:21:33.460 --> 01:21:40.300]  in these experiments. They would give them this chemical and ask them to remember things
[01:21:40.300 --> 01:21:45.700]  and they would remember it and then the next session they'd ask them to remember this and
[01:21:45.700 --> 01:21:51.740]  it's gone because they didn't put it back because they blocked that part of the brain.
[01:21:51.740 --> 01:21:59.700]  So that's why we tell a story and it changes over time. It's actually how we remember it
[01:21:59.700 --> 01:22:06.240]  but each time we tell it, we change what we remember and that's why witnesses are so notoriously
[01:22:06.240 --> 01:22:16.580]  inconsistent. So I suggest write a timeline. Just first you do dates of this happened,
[01:22:16.580 --> 01:22:22.540]  this happened, this happened. No explanations. Just do a timeline and then leave it for a
[01:22:22.540 --> 01:22:30.780]  while and then go back to it and these dates and statements of what happens will do what
[01:22:30.780 --> 01:22:37.700]  we call revivification. It'll revive the memories and you begin to fill these spaces in. When
[01:22:37.700 --> 01:22:46.140]  you're dealing with them, keep copious notes. Keeping notes while you're dealing with them
[01:22:46.140 --> 01:22:57.900]  makes them crazy. Get an audio if you can. Get you one of these little recorders you
[01:22:57.900 --> 01:23:06.740]  can hide and once you have the audio in the background, that is very, very good for you.
[01:23:06.740 --> 01:23:15.220]  It will keep you from getting, from allowing them to frustrate and anger you. They are
[01:23:15.220 --> 01:23:22.860]  very good at that. They practice it. They know how to control you. If you have an audio
[01:23:22.860 --> 01:23:30.660]  in the background, you're always thinking that what I'm about to say, how's that going
[01:23:30.660 --> 01:23:38.580]  to sound when the jury listens to the audio and it won't take the officer long to figure
[01:23:38.580 --> 01:23:45.860]  out what you're doing. And it makes them a lot more careful. I'd never suggest arguing
[01:23:45.860 --> 01:23:53.700]  with the officer on the roadway. I suggest never try to teach him anything and do not
[01:23:53.700 --> 01:23:57.980]  give him fair warning. Anytime you try to give a public official fair warning, they
[01:23:57.980 --> 01:24:05.860]  will always treat it as a threat. So I never give them fair warning. I just got an email
[01:24:05.860 --> 01:24:11.260]  from someone in Randall County and I told him if he goes to the Canyon County clerk's
[01:24:11.260 --> 01:24:17.820]  office, the district clerk for Randall County, don't mention my name. They're probably still
[01:24:17.820 --> 01:24:25.180]  really PO'd at me because I asked to see some records and the clerk, the elected clerk told
[01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:29.660]  me I'd have to look on their computers and I told him no, I need to see the actual physical
[01:24:29.660 --> 01:24:36.420]  record and she refused to give them to me. So I said, oh, okay, wait right there. Don't
[01:24:36.420 --> 01:24:40.020]  go anywhere. Somebody's going to want to talk to you. And I went over and pushed the door
[01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:46.020]  open and pointed at one of the security guys and I said, you come here and ask him to arrest
[01:24:46.020 --> 01:24:56.860]  her. A warning, I wasn't reasonable. I wasn't understanding and she realized I goaded her
[01:24:56.860 --> 01:25:04.100]  into that. I set her up and she's thinking that no good scoundrel.
[01:25:04.100 --> 01:25:08.780]  She comes out later with a lieutenant that they went and got who refused to take my complaint
[01:25:08.780 --> 01:25:15.020]  so I called 911 and she's got the records that I'd asked for. They started to say something.
[01:25:15.020 --> 01:25:21.100]  I held up both hands. I said, stop, stop, stop. I can't be talking to you. I've called 911.
[01:25:21.100 --> 01:25:25.260]  I got someone coming. I'll give him a full report. Since I'm going to be filing criminal
[01:25:25.260 --> 01:25:30.100]  charges against you guys, it would be inappropriate for us to have any further conversation. The
[01:25:30.100 --> 01:25:36.500]  sergeant said, well, she has the records you asked for. I looked up at him and said, sorry,
[01:25:36.500 --> 01:25:44.260]  Bubba, that bill's already been rung. And the look on the clerk's face was absolutely
[01:25:44.260 --> 01:25:47.260]  priceless.
[01:25:47.260 --> 01:25:55.500]  I didn't laugh out loud, but it was a struggle.
[01:25:55.500 --> 01:26:02.540]  You get to see what I call this little chicken dance. When I had the sergeant, when the sergeant
[01:26:02.540 --> 01:26:07.780]  brought his lieutenant and I'm telling the lieutenant what I want, he shifted from one
[01:26:07.780 --> 01:26:17.500]  foot to the other. Well, Mr. Kelton, you'll have to struggle with that. And this is important
[01:26:17.500 --> 01:26:26.420]  because we're used to feeling intimidated before public officials, feeling betrayed
[01:26:26.420 --> 01:26:35.260]  and mistreated and that triggers some really negative and detrimental internal reactions.
[01:26:35.260 --> 01:26:43.140]  If we go in from the perspective that we are the master, they are the servant. And everything
[01:26:43.140 --> 01:26:49.220]  we do is a setup. Everything we ask them, we hope they don't do it so we can sting them
[01:26:49.220 --> 01:26:56.900]  for not doing it. And the more minor and piddling it is, the better. The clerk wanted me to
[01:26:56.900 --> 01:27:02.780]  look in the computer instead of having her go get me the physical files. It's not like
[01:27:02.780 --> 01:27:12.580]  she was going to let me see the records. It couldn't have got more technical, more minor.
[01:27:12.580 --> 01:27:18.280]  And here I'm trying to get her arrested. She was terrified. I can assure you, if you go
[01:27:18.280 --> 01:27:24.060]  to Randall County and ask to see some physical files, you're not going to get any garbage.
[01:27:24.060 --> 01:27:30.500]  If you go to Johnson County, Texas and call and make a complaint against a public official,
[01:27:30.500 --> 01:27:38.380]  the sheriff's department is going to be right on that. No screwing around, no BS, because
[01:27:38.380 --> 01:27:44.140]  I presented the district attorney to the grand jury myself in Johnson County. I did not
[01:27:44.140 --> 01:27:51.140]  get the prosecuting attorney indicted, but they don't do that garbage anymore. So this
[01:27:51.140 --> 01:28:00.460]  is how we can fix it. Robert, you got no idea how powerful you can be. And they are in the
[01:28:00.460 --> 01:28:05.420]  end, they're never going to tell you. They're going to do everything they can to hide it
[01:28:05.420 --> 01:28:13.020]  from you. But when you start setting them up and stinging them, the way you sting them
[01:28:13.020 --> 01:28:18.540]  is you don't do it there. You go to another judge or something or a prosecutor and file
[01:28:18.540 --> 01:28:24.940]  complaints against them. I'm about to file criminal charges with the U.S. attorney against
[01:28:24.940 --> 01:28:33.420]  a federal district judge because he dismissed my case under rule 12 when there was a subject
[01:28:33.420 --> 01:28:38.740]  matter jurisdiction challenge before the court. He ignored it. So I'm going to file criminally
[01:28:38.740 --> 01:28:46.820]  and see if I can't get him arrested. This is so much fun. And once you've done that
[01:28:46.820 --> 01:28:57.900]  once, if anybody, any official says anything to you that you can in any way take as a threat,
[01:28:57.900 --> 01:29:03.460]  like if they give you fair warning, oh, Mr. Robert, you have to be careful. You can get
[01:29:03.460 --> 01:29:09.060]  in a lot of trouble doing this. That's witness tampering. That's a felony in every state.
[01:29:09.060 --> 01:29:15.140]  Say, go ahead, Bubba. I got all these lines. Come over here and step across one of them.
[01:29:15.140 --> 01:29:22.940]  Does that make sense, Robert? Yeah. I'm going to have to re-listen to it when I get the
[01:29:22.940 --> 01:29:27.780]  recording a couple of times because I've got ADD and dyslexic tendencies. So I've got to
[01:29:27.780 --> 01:29:34.020]  re-read things and re-listen to things and memory. So that's why I always tape everything.
[01:29:34.020 --> 01:29:40.060]  Good. Good. Okay. Go through it a couple of times and we do have to move on and then keep
[01:29:40.060 --> 01:29:45.700]  us up to date on how this goes. Yeah. And I got another case I'll call in some other
[01:29:45.700 --> 01:29:49.020]  time about, because neither case, they didn't have DuProst. I mean, they didn't have...
[01:29:49.020 --> 01:29:53.140]  Okay. Wait, wait, wait. We have to go. We're about to go to break. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:18.260 --> 01:33:38.820]  You're listening to Rule of Law Radio. Randy Kelton, Jet Pack. We are with Robert from
[01:33:38.820 --> 01:33:49.220]  California. Okay, Robert. We need to, we really need to move along. Call us back. Friday is
[01:33:49.220 --> 01:33:55.900]  generally the best day. Thursday is only a two-hour show, so it's kind of short. Yeah,
[01:33:55.900 --> 01:33:59.860]  I'll call you back next Friday. I've got a bunch of stuff to do. I've got to listen to
[01:33:59.860 --> 01:34:05.940]  all this stuff and do a bunch of errands. Okay, this will, this will get you a step
[01:34:05.940 --> 01:34:12.900]  way ahead. Because once you start taking them on, then you become proactive and not just
[01:34:12.900 --> 01:34:19.260]  defensive. And next week we'll talk about how to give them reason to make you want to
[01:34:19.260 --> 01:34:24.500]  go away and quit beating them up. I can't wait till they want to do that. How
[01:34:24.500 --> 01:34:30.060]  much does that jurisdiction case, I think, cost from you guys?
[01:34:30.060 --> 01:34:36.860]  Deer's Dictionary? I'm not sure. It's under 300, it's two-something.
[01:34:36.860 --> 01:34:41.540]  I've got a disability, so I've got to try and save up the money for it.
[01:34:41.540 --> 01:34:45.820]  Okay, you might talk to Deborah where she may be able to work something out to help
[01:34:45.820 --> 01:34:54.300]  you out there. I sent an email to Deborah at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:34:54.300 --> 01:35:02.220]  Her email address is just putdebora.ruleoflawradio.com. Okay, thank you very much. I appreciate
[01:35:02.220 --> 01:35:06.740]  all you guys' help. You guys are my favorite stations. When I asked me if I knew my rights
[01:35:06.740 --> 01:35:11.820]  and I didn't, okay, that bothered me. So I started learning. I got stuck with the realization
[01:35:11.820 --> 01:35:16.540]  I'm being charged for my security rights and being told their privileges. That really upset
[01:35:16.540 --> 01:35:20.520]  me. The more people we get upset, the more people
[01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:29.620]  willing to take them on, the less they will be able to disenfranchise us. I'm trying to
[01:35:29.620 --> 01:35:37.020]  build an army here, an army not that comes in with some magic bullet way of beating the
[01:35:37.020 --> 01:35:45.140]  system, but comes in and uses the system the way it is and crams it right down their throats.
[01:35:45.140 --> 01:35:50.900]  I find it interesting that when people about their rights, they don't want to know about
[01:35:50.900 --> 01:35:54.500]  them. Well, the vast majority of the people are so
[01:35:54.500 --> 01:36:01.020]  tied up in their lives that they just don't have time. I'm older, my kids are out of the
[01:36:01.020 --> 01:36:09.100]  house. I have fulfilled my contract with life, or at least as to my children and the family.
[01:36:09.100 --> 01:36:18.180]  Now I have another contract. I'm a combat veteran. I swore on my oath I'd protect this
[01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:25.500]  country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, I found an enemy. It is domestic and
[01:36:25.500 --> 01:36:33.620]  the fight's on. But not everybody can do that. Not everybody has the time and I don't begrudge
[01:36:33.620 --> 01:36:41.340]  anyone who doesn't have the time because we only need about maybe 1% of the population.
[01:36:41.340 --> 01:36:47.700]  If we got 1% of the population that'll go in there and stomp all over these guys, these
[01:36:47.700 --> 01:36:51.980]  problems will go away. That's about the percentage that are grateful
[01:36:51.980 --> 01:37:01.660]  when I try and tell them about it. Yeah. People experience cognitive dissonance.
[01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:09.900]  They want to have their image of how things ought to be and they want to keep it and they
[01:37:09.900 --> 01:37:15.300]  don't want to hear any proof to the contrary. And we can't fix that. See, I do this show
[01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:19.820]  and I don't go to people and tell them what the rights are anymore unless they ask me
[01:37:19.820 --> 01:37:23.420]  because- No, I don't want to raise sheeple and try
[01:37:23.420 --> 01:37:30.780]  and get them interested in learning them. It's difficult and it's frustrating trying
[01:37:30.780 --> 01:37:38.340]  to do that. So I kind of give that up. If someone comes to me, I give them all the information
[01:37:38.340 --> 01:37:44.620]  I can but they have to come and ask for it. And as you begin to do this, you get more
[01:37:44.620 --> 01:37:50.580]  people coming to you. They'll realize that everybody trusts the system until they've
[01:37:50.580 --> 01:37:57.060]  had to experience it themselves and that's when it changes. So be patient with these
[01:37:57.060 --> 01:38:03.060]  people. You know, the guy's got three kids, he's got a mortgage, he's got a boss who gives
[01:38:03.060 --> 01:38:08.860]  him nothing but grief and his life is so much of a struggle, he just doesn't have room for
[01:38:08.860 --> 01:38:12.900]  something else. And then when you come to him and tell him that all of the things he's
[01:38:12.900 --> 01:38:18.260]  believed and accepted all his life is a lie and you're not protected by your government,
[01:38:18.260 --> 01:38:26.260]  you're incredibly vulnerable, he just doesn't have room to process that. So it licks cognitive
[01:38:26.260 --> 01:38:33.620]  dissonance. I don't blame people for that anymore. I don't feel like they're not doing
[01:38:33.620 --> 01:38:40.700]  their jobs. It's not meant for everybody. There are a few of us out here who are put
[01:38:40.700 --> 01:38:47.940]  here to do this. I spend my time on this show looking for people like you. You're the reason
[01:38:47.940 --> 01:38:53.940]  I do this show is to find people who are in a position and in a state of mind that they're
[01:38:53.940 --> 01:39:00.340]  willing to take these guys on. So by all means, keep it up, Robert. But I do have to move
[01:39:00.340 --> 01:39:05.220]  along. We got a whole bunch of callers here. Thank you. I got to get as good as you. I
[01:39:05.220 --> 01:39:10.420]  got it. You and Randy, I got to get as good as you. No, no, you have to get better than
[01:39:10.420 --> 01:39:20.140]  me. And that's not near as hard as you think. Education is the key and you guys are helping.
[01:39:20.140 --> 01:39:27.740]  Good, good. Okay. Thank you, Robert. Now we're going to go to Mike in Texas. Hello, Mike.
[01:39:27.740 --> 01:39:31.140]  Hey, Randy. How's it going?
[01:39:31.140 --> 01:39:34.140]  It's going good. What do you have for us today?
[01:39:34.140 --> 01:39:39.140]  Well, let's see. I've been gathering.
[01:39:39.140 --> 01:39:45.140]  Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Your mic is booming. Can you move it a little bit away from your
[01:39:45.140 --> 01:39:46.140]  mouth?
[01:39:46.140 --> 01:39:47.140]  Okay. Is this better?
[01:39:47.140 --> 01:39:48.140]  That's a little better. Yes.
[01:39:48.140 --> 01:39:49.140]  That's better, Randy.
[01:39:49.140 --> 01:39:50.140]  That's better.
[01:39:50.140 --> 01:39:58.380]  Okay. Sorry about that. Let's see. Well, I've been trying to get some evidence from the
[01:39:58.380 --> 01:40:07.140]  county and I think about two years ago, the judge finally said after I had a table full
[01:40:07.140 --> 01:40:12.260]  of evidence, I think that Mr. Handel, you knocked this out of the park. And so at that
[01:40:12.260 --> 01:40:17.140]  point, the county attorney piped up and said, well, we destroyed the evidence, your honor.
[01:40:17.140 --> 01:40:24.140]  And I said, well, you know, there are kill studies record and each act is a felony offense.
[01:40:24.140 --> 01:40:30.140]  They've just confessed to destroying evidence for everyone, not in deference to me. And
[01:40:30.140 --> 01:40:36.740]  therefore I moved for 5201 court of inquiry. He refused. I disqualified, went to multiple
[01:40:36.740 --> 01:40:42.740]  disqualifications hearings. County changed their mind and said, no, it's there. We have
[01:40:42.740 --> 01:40:48.860]  it. And I said, well, you don't take your pick. Now we have aggravated perjury. I still
[01:40:48.860 --> 01:40:59.100]  move for 5201 court of inquiry and they refused. And so eventually the county wants $259,509
[01:40:59.100 --> 01:41:04.540]  for what I'm seeking, even though I'm declared indigent and it ought to be provided to me.
[01:41:04.540 --> 01:41:11.220]  So they've changed tactics and now we're going to delay, delay, delay, delay. So they've
[01:41:11.220 --> 01:41:16.140]  moved to have my court dismissed, my case dismissed. And I guess this is part where
[01:41:16.140 --> 01:41:21.540]  I thought would be interesting for rule of law. So I'm speaking with the clerk on the
[01:41:21.540 --> 01:41:29.060]  process for how to process all this for objecting to my case being dismissed. And she has her
[01:41:29.060 --> 01:41:36.740]  own rule book, little yellow paper folders or pieces of paper she has stapled together.
[01:41:36.740 --> 01:41:41.660]  And these are her rules and these, I mean, there are published rules, they're local rules
[01:41:41.660 --> 01:41:48.780]  for this county. And she's even told me that she's had attorneys in her office and she
[01:41:48.780 --> 01:41:54.460]  had to explain to the attorneys that her yellow rule book, even though it's contrary to what
[01:41:54.460 --> 01:42:00.580]  the published rules are, supersedes anything in the published rules. Apparently they have
[01:42:00.580 --> 01:42:07.260]  their own private rules, how the court is operating and they will not provide it. They
[01:42:07.260 --> 01:42:15.420]  will not provide copies. They will not provide even examination of this private set of rules.
[01:42:15.420 --> 01:42:22.500]  And so I was wondering, do you have any ideas on maybe how to proceed from here? And I guess
[01:42:22.500 --> 01:42:33.020]  I'll just leave that as the first question. Have you filed a written information request
[01:42:33.020 --> 01:42:38.420]  requesting the rules? No, I haven't, but I was afraid that they would just deny their
[01:42:38.420 --> 01:42:49.900]  existence. Who cares? Okay. You want that in writing first. And then you can file against
[01:42:49.900 --> 01:42:58.060]  the clerk under violating open records act by claiming she didn't have records that she
[01:42:58.060 --> 01:43:01.980]  personally told you she did have and then file criminally against the clerk.
[01:43:01.980 --> 01:43:10.180]  With the grand jury? Yeah. This is, we're the masters. We don't
[01:43:10.180 --> 01:43:16.180]  need to put up with this garbage. I have a traffic ticket now and I'm going to go into
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[01:43:27.060 --> 01:43:35.580]  the law says. You're not following it. I want you arrested. It really changes everything.
[01:43:35.580 --> 01:43:43.660]  We are about to go to break. I'm ready to take us out. We are rule of law radio. You're
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[01:46:21.620 --> 01:46:38.260]  We are back. You are listening to Rule of Law Radio with Randy Kelton Betpack and we
[01:46:38.260 --> 01:46:42.260]  are speaking with Mike out of Texas. Randy, go ahead.
[01:46:42.260 --> 01:46:44.260]  Okay. Go ahead, Mike.
[01:46:44.260 --> 01:46:52.300]  Well, I also had another question. I had the privilege of speaking to a local city councilman
[01:46:52.300 --> 01:46:57.580]  and they told me, we did discuss some things. I said, well, what would you like to see happen
[01:46:57.580 --> 01:47:02.820]  here in Austin? I said, well, I'd like to see fluoride removed from the water. He said,
[01:47:02.820 --> 01:47:09.820]  yep, we'd all like to see that, but he said that the councilman, he's saying the elected
[01:47:09.820 --> 01:47:16.260]  councilman have no power to do anything. They all have to take their direction from the
[01:47:16.260 --> 01:47:23.940]  hired bureaucrats, which I thought was interesting because they basically, he's telling me that
[01:47:23.940 --> 01:47:29.220]  the elected councilmen are nothing more than public relations officers with no power to
[01:47:29.220 --> 01:47:37.100]  change policy. It's a policy that's set by the city employees and then that's it. There's
[01:47:37.100 --> 01:47:40.580]  no recourse.
[01:47:40.580 --> 01:47:43.580]  You know, that's nonsense.
[01:47:43.580 --> 01:47:52.140]  Yeah. Something about doesn't quite ring true, but it was kind of a, it was also a confession
[01:47:52.140 --> 01:47:57.340]  that some of it may have some bearing. I don't know.
[01:47:57.340 --> 01:48:06.540]  Well, unless there's some hidden law behind the law that we think we know about, the city
[01:48:06.540 --> 01:48:13.980]  council sets policy. That's primarily what they do. And you have a city councilman telling
[01:48:13.980 --> 01:48:23.100]  you that they can't set policy. Is he speaking to a contract that can't break?
[01:48:23.100 --> 01:48:24.100]  No.
[01:48:24.100 --> 01:48:25.100]  Then...
[01:48:25.100 --> 01:48:31.100]  I don't know. Maybe, I mean, I guess maybe there's a contract that cannot be broken with
[01:48:31.100 --> 01:48:35.660]  the federal government regarding inclusion of fluoride in the water.
[01:48:35.660 --> 01:48:45.540]  So any contract for the most part can be broken. It's just there are consequences. So it sounds
[01:48:45.540 --> 01:48:53.180]  like he's saying that they're stuck in a program that if they try to opt out of it, then the
[01:48:53.180 --> 01:48:59.580]  consequences will be too great. He just doesn't want to tell you that. Or he's a politician
[01:48:59.580 --> 01:49:01.540]  and he's lying like a dog.
[01:49:01.540 --> 01:49:06.540]  Both of them are equally possible. Sure. They're not mutually exclusive either.
[01:49:06.540 --> 01:49:13.500]  Wait, move the mic a little away from your mouth. You're distorting someone.
[01:49:13.500 --> 01:49:17.660]  Both are possible and they're not necessarily mutually exclusive.
[01:49:17.660 --> 01:49:20.660]  That's true.
[01:49:20.660 --> 01:49:29.660]  But I just thought that you'd find it interesting that, you know, here I had, regarding the
[01:49:29.660 --> 01:49:34.940]  brick-button, here I had a clerk who had explained to me, well, look, these are the rules. And
[01:49:34.940 --> 01:49:39.620]  I've even had to explain it to attorneys that my little people both...
[01:49:39.620 --> 01:49:43.700]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Did you have the clerk record it?
[01:49:43.700 --> 01:49:44.700]  No.
[01:49:44.700 --> 01:49:50.900]  You need a little hidden recorder like one of these USB mic recorders.
[01:49:50.900 --> 01:49:57.660]  I know. I didn't expect it. Actually, I didn't. I tried to bring one in that day, but I couldn't
[01:49:57.660 --> 01:50:03.140]  find it under my car. But yeah, that would have been something that would have been nice
[01:50:03.140 --> 01:50:04.140]  to replay.
[01:50:04.140 --> 01:50:11.940]  Yeah. You really need to start filing criminal complaints. You will find that is so much
[01:50:11.940 --> 01:50:19.500]  more fun than what you're doing. You get to watch them do this chicken dance and all of
[01:50:19.500 --> 01:50:24.620]  a sudden you become a whole different persona.
[01:50:24.620 --> 01:50:31.980]  Yeah, I sure feel like I'm dancing there too. You know, right now they've basically stalled
[01:50:31.980 --> 01:50:38.500]  me for almost two years now on something that would have been a slam dunk judgment.
[01:50:38.500 --> 01:50:42.900]  If they were afraid that everything you're doing is for the purpose of setting them up
[01:50:42.900 --> 01:50:50.300]  so that you can come after them legally, them personally with legal issues, that changes
[01:50:50.300 --> 01:50:56.940]  their perspective considerably. I just had the chief of police at Decatur, Texas do the
[01:50:56.940 --> 01:51:04.180]  chicken dance for me over the phone because I gave him a couple of information requests
[01:51:04.180 --> 01:51:09.940]  and he's dancing around trying to figure out a way to keep from throwing the city under
[01:51:09.940 --> 01:51:18.020]  the bus, but also keep me from filing charges against him. And he opted to throw the city
[01:51:18.020 --> 01:51:26.600]  under the bus. He sent me a response saying that his officers do not enforce the commercial
[01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:36.660]  transportation code. Wonderful. He knew in doing that, he threw the city under the bus,
[01:51:36.660 --> 01:51:44.820]  but he was more worried about what I'd do to him legally than having the city be upset
[01:51:44.820 --> 01:51:53.820]  at him. He knows I have first degree felony aggravated assault charges against the highest
[01:51:53.820 --> 01:52:00.700]  judge in the county and also against the local Texas ranger. He doesn't want to be on that
[01:52:00.700 --> 01:52:07.700]  list. I'm telling you, you start taking them to task for their criminal behavior, especially
[01:52:07.700 --> 01:52:14.740]  judges. Things will start to change quickly. Okay. Do you have anything else for us, Mike?
[01:52:14.740 --> 01:52:18.380]  That's all, Randy. Thank you for allowing me to be in the air.
[01:52:18.380 --> 01:52:27.060]  Okay. Thank you, Mike. Okay. Now we're going to Mauricio in Texas. Did I pronounce that
[01:52:27.060 --> 01:52:28.060]  right?
[01:52:28.060 --> 01:52:32.980]  You did a lot better than most, Randy. Mauricio.
[01:52:32.980 --> 01:52:46.820]  Mauricio. Tell me how I should pronounce it. You did it just fine. We pronounce it Mauricio.
[01:52:46.820 --> 01:52:56.620]  Oh, okay. What do you have for us today? Longtime listener, first time caller. I know you'd
[01:52:56.620 --> 01:53:04.620]  like to hear things from the beginning, so if I may. Back in February around 14, I was
[01:53:04.620 --> 01:53:12.980]  traveling on my way to work and was pulled over by a constable. I greeted him as he approached
[01:53:12.980 --> 01:53:19.300]  my automobile and asked, you know, good morning. What's your emergency? How can I help you?
[01:53:19.300 --> 01:53:27.540]  We did a little dance there and I asked him, you know, if his cameras were working to acknowledge
[01:53:27.540 --> 01:53:34.300]  the fact that I was not engaged in commerce, vehicle by hire, any of the good stuff. Okay.
[01:53:34.300 --> 01:53:41.740]  He asked for identification. I then respond with using a Priceless Lineup. Well, sir, is
[01:53:41.740 --> 01:53:46.780]  any of that information you're requesting could be used against me in a court of law?
[01:53:46.780 --> 01:53:50.780]  And he stepped back and, you know, I don't want to hear any of that. Just if you're going
[01:53:50.780 --> 01:53:54.380]  to be on these public roads, it's a privilege. You need to give me a driver's license, so
[01:53:54.380 --> 01:53:59.300]  on and so forth. I asked him again and that's when I threw in the, if so, I'd like to go
[01:53:59.300 --> 01:54:04.460]  ahead and utilize my Fifth Amendment right and not produce any information. He went on
[01:54:04.460 --> 01:54:08.220]  to give the whole chicken dance that if you don't give information, I'm going to arrest
[01:54:08.220 --> 01:54:12.140]  you so on and so forth. So I pulled out a entrance card because I didn't want to run
[01:54:12.140 --> 01:54:17.580]  late to work, so I didn't have time to really play with him. But I pulled out the entrance
[01:54:17.580 --> 01:54:21.860]  card, told him, look, I'm giving this to you just as a form of identification, not as a
[01:54:21.860 --> 01:54:29.460]  form of admission that I'm engaging in any form of transportation. Gave it to him. He
[01:54:29.460 --> 01:54:32.900]  runs back to the truck, spends a couple of minutes back there, comes back, tells me he's
[01:54:32.900 --> 01:54:38.660]  giving me the original citation for the passing, no passing zone, and that he found my information
[01:54:38.660 --> 01:54:46.140]  in the computer. And he went ahead and wrote that down in citation. I had my phone out.
[01:54:46.140 --> 01:54:51.660]  At least I thought I was recording, but I missed the first part of the traffic stop.
[01:54:51.660 --> 01:54:56.740]  But I was able to record the second part where I notified him that, you know, I'm signing
[01:54:56.740 --> 01:55:02.380]  this not as a form of, please, admission is engaged in commerce. I'm signing it merely
[01:55:02.380 --> 01:55:07.500]  because there's a gentleman standing next to me with a handgun who has told me if I
[01:55:07.500 --> 01:55:12.060]  do not sign it, he will make me give my will to himself. And in the video when I mentioned
[01:55:12.060 --> 01:55:17.860]  that he takes his hand off of his gun and then crosses his arms. I sign it, give it
[01:55:17.860 --> 01:55:24.460]  to him, he goes back. Arrangement comes in. I go in, I tell the clerk, unfortunately,
[01:55:24.460 --> 01:55:30.940]  I'm unable to give a plea to a clerk. I can only do that to a judge. After a couple minutes
[01:55:30.940 --> 01:55:36.740]  of that, she went in and had me go to the courtroom. I walked into the courtroom. And
[01:55:36.740 --> 01:55:45.340]  as I'm walking in, the judge walks in, or yes, it's a JP3 out of Nueces County. He
[01:55:45.340 --> 01:55:49.300]  walks in, he looks at me, points at me and says, do you have a cell phone or anything
[01:55:49.300 --> 01:55:54.100]  that's recording? And I pulled out my cell phone. I said, yes. He said, well, I want
[01:55:54.100 --> 01:55:59.460]  to see you turn it off. I go, so you want this to be a quarter of no record? He said,
[01:55:59.460 --> 01:56:03.900]  absolutely. I'm like, all right. So I turn it off right there in front of him and he's
[01:56:03.900 --> 01:56:09.820]  watching me as I turn it off. And after I turn it off, that's when he starts, look,
[01:56:09.820 --> 01:56:14.780]  you're pushing my patience, son. I'm not going to be out here playing these little
[01:56:14.780 --> 01:56:19.780]  games with you. And I also found two other citations from back in 2010. He goes, and
[01:56:19.780 --> 01:56:24.060]  I'm going to be courteous and hear all of the citations together, even though these
[01:56:24.060 --> 01:56:31.500]  were issued under a different judge at the time. So every time he started beginning using
[01:56:31.500 --> 01:56:37.940]  the, and I notified him that I was there at arms length of the court at a special appearance.
[01:56:37.940 --> 01:56:44.340]  He began utilizing the terminologies of vehicle, home, driver, so on and so forth. And I adjusted
[01:56:44.340 --> 01:56:51.820]  to each one of them. And each time he started getting visibly angry. And he tells me finally
[01:56:51.820 --> 01:56:56.420]  that he's not there playing word games with me. And that's when I told him, well, sir,
[01:56:56.420 --> 01:57:00.380]  I'm not here playing word games either. If anyone's playing word games, it's the state
[01:57:00.380 --> 01:57:07.380]  and not merely playing by your rules. He got right in the face with that one. When he mentioned
[01:57:07.380 --> 01:57:14.860]  the other citation, I asked that they be thrown out for a statute of limitations. And that's
[01:57:14.860 --> 01:57:19.780]  when he told me that he didn't care what I thought. So then I responded to him, well,
[01:57:19.780 --> 01:57:23.620]  sir, I'm going to be polite and I'm going to ask you that you dismiss yourself from
[01:57:23.620 --> 01:57:28.940]  the bench instead of me disqualifying you. I go, and hopefully you'll be replaced with
[01:57:28.940 --> 01:57:41.780]  a judge who is not as biased. How did I say it? Forgive me for a moment. Non-biased, judgmental,
[01:57:41.780 --> 01:57:50.540]  not as one sided, forgive me. And a judge that was basically competent. He stood up
[01:57:50.540 --> 01:57:57.900]  and he came down from behind the bench, walked down the aisle, pointed directly in my face
[01:57:57.900 --> 01:58:03.300]  and said, you come and follow me. We went out of the courtroom, going down the hallway
[01:58:03.300 --> 01:58:08.460]  and he is screaming with his hands shaking in the air for all available constables to
[01:58:08.460 --> 01:58:13.660]  get there. Three constables come running out and he turns around and tells them, if I get
[01:58:13.660 --> 01:58:19.100]  into my automobile, that I am to be arrested on the spot. And that's when I asked him if
[01:58:19.100 --> 01:58:23.420]  that was a threat. He then yelled that no, it wasn't a threat. Turned around, slammed
[01:58:23.420 --> 01:58:30.700]  the door and I had three constables chat from me, sitting in my face basically. Why did
[01:58:30.700 --> 01:58:42.700]  you set the judge? Hang on. Hang on. We're about to go to Barak with you. This is rule
[01:58:42.700 --> 01:58:46.620]  of law radio. You've got Randy Kelton vet pack and we are listening to Mauricio. Call
[01:58:46.620 --> 01:58:50.380]  us at 512-646-198.
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