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[00:08.000 --> 00:21.000] Today in history, news updates and the inside scoop into the tides of the alternative.
[00:21.000 --> 00:28.000] Markets for Wednesday, the 4th of May, 2016, are currently treading with gold at $1,274.01 an ounce.
[00:28.000 --> 00:30.000] Over $17.26 an ounce.
[00:30.000 --> 00:33.000] Texas crude, $43.65 a barrel.
[00:33.000 --> 00:43.000] And Bitcoin is currently at about $448 U.S. currency.
[00:43.000 --> 00:48.000] Today in history, the year 1415, Protestant Christian reformers John Wycliffe and Jan
[00:48.000 --> 00:52.000] Haas are condemned as heretics at the Council of Constance.
[00:52.000 --> 00:56.000] This declaration led to the digging up and burning of Wycliffe's bones, who had died
[00:56.000 --> 01:01.000] a few decades before, with his ashes being dumped into a river, into the eventual execution
[01:01.000 --> 01:06.000] of Jan Haas by burning at the stake, yet another attempt at stamping out Protestantism via
[01:06.000 --> 01:13.000] the Catholic Inquisition today in history.
[01:13.000 --> 01:17.000] In recent news, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said concerning President Obama's
[01:17.000 --> 01:21.000] first visit to Flint, Michigan, in response to the lead poisoning crisis that has been
[01:21.000 --> 01:25.000] happening there, that, quote, this administration will continue to help mobilize the resources
[01:25.000 --> 01:28.000] necessary that will allow Flint to recover and come back stronger than ever.
[01:28.000 --> 01:30.000] This is not an exercise in finger pointing.
[01:30.000 --> 01:34.000] This is an exercise in asserting the responsibility that everybody has to make sure the people
[01:34.000 --> 01:37.000] of Flint have an opportunity to get back on their feet.
[01:37.000 --> 01:41.000] President Obama did declare a state of emergency in mid-January and ordered federal aid in
[01:41.000 --> 01:43.000] addition to the state and local response.
[01:43.000 --> 01:47.000] His first priority in Flint is to be updated on the federal response to the crisis and
[01:47.000 --> 01:54.000] is even meeting with some city residents.
[01:54.000 --> 01:58.000] Israel's Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked in an interview with the Washington Post
[01:58.000 --> 02:03.000] stated today that, quote, in the past we've seen European leaders speaking against the
[02:03.000 --> 02:04.000] Jews.
[02:04.000 --> 02:05.000] Now we see them speaking against Israel.
[02:05.000 --> 02:10.000] It is the same anti-Semitism of blood libel spreading lies, distorting reality, and brainwashing
[02:10.000 --> 02:13.000] people into hating Israel and the Jews.
[02:13.000 --> 02:17.000] She went as far as to say that the supporters of movements such as BDS, which call for putting
[02:17.000 --> 02:21.000] economic and political pressure on Israel in order to achieve compliance with international
[02:21.000 --> 02:26.000] law and gain rights for Palestinians, are, quote, using the same kind of anti-Semitism,
[02:26.000 --> 02:30.000] but instead of saying they're against the Jews, they say that they're against Israel.
[02:30.000 --> 02:34.000] In response to comments made in recent weeks by members of Britain's Labour Party claiming
[02:34.000 --> 02:38.000] that Hitler was a Zionist and previous remarks by lawmakers that Israel's population should
[02:38.000 --> 02:43.000] be transported out of the Middle East to America, Shaked stated that, quote, today it is not
[02:43.000 --> 02:47.000] politically correct to be anti-Semitic, but being anti-Israeli is acceptable.
[02:47.000 --> 02:52.000] People who have such anti-Semitic views should not be allowed to hold central leadership
[02:52.000 --> 02:53.000] positions.
[02:53.000 --> 03:22.000] This is Rick Rodey, Your Lowdown, for May 4th, 2016.
[03:24.000 --> 03:29.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
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[04:02.000 --> 04:05.000] You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[04:05.000 --> 04:08.000] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister
[04:08.000 --> 04:11.000] You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me
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[04:17.000 --> 04:20.200] Hey, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens,
[04:20.200 --> 04:25.200] the root of our radio on the Cinco de Mayo, 2016,
[04:25.600 --> 04:30.600] the fifth day of May, 2016, Mexican Independence Day,
[04:33.240 --> 04:37.140] and the Friday before Mother's Day.
[04:37.140 --> 04:40.540] For those of you who have forgot,
[04:40.540 --> 04:42.820] and of course I never forget those kinds of things
[04:42.820 --> 04:45.060] because I have lots of people to remind me.
[04:45.060 --> 04:50.060] And as we get older, we get better at not forgetting things
[04:50.080 --> 04:53.440] because we tend to write them down on our forehead backwards
[04:53.440 --> 04:55.840] so when we look in the mirror, we can read it.
[04:56.920 --> 05:01.920] Anyway, okay, phone lines are open, there.
[05:04.420 --> 05:09.320] And it looks like we already have a caller on the board.
[05:09.320 --> 05:11.540] I'll go to that caller in a moment.
[05:11.540 --> 05:16.540] Today, I was going back over Law 101, your Legal 101.
[05:20.600 --> 05:23.760] I'm developing an e-book.
[05:24.640 --> 05:27.720] I haven't had time to work on it in a while,
[05:27.720 --> 05:32.720] but I'm trying to get back to it because for those of you
[05:34.240 --> 05:35.240] who listen all the time,
[05:35.240 --> 05:39.520] you've probably heard this section on flow.
[05:39.520 --> 05:42.020] I did a long section on flow,
[05:43.360 --> 05:48.120] how to maintain mental flow
[05:48.120 --> 05:52.720] and addressed a lot of things that interrupt flow.
[05:53.800 --> 05:58.520] And in structuring that and putting it together,
[05:58.520 --> 06:03.520] I was very surprised because I was listening to
[06:03.520 --> 06:08.520] someone recently talking about the issue,
[06:09.800 --> 06:13.040] someone else that's a legal researcher
[06:14.120 --> 06:17.000] talking about a foreclosure issue.
[06:17.000 --> 06:20.960] And they were making statements that I was having trouble
[06:20.960 --> 06:25.960] getting past because he was making mental errors
[06:28.320 --> 06:30.760] concerning the use of language
[06:30.760 --> 06:35.760] that after going through this section on flow,
[06:36.000 --> 06:37.320] that I couldn't get past.
[06:37.320 --> 06:41.760] He said that the bank sold the note three times.
[06:41.760 --> 06:43.760] And I said, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[06:44.720 --> 06:46.960] What does sold the note mean?
[06:48.760 --> 06:53.760] And it took him five minutes to sort out
[06:53.920 --> 06:56.000] what he actually meant by that term
[06:56.000 --> 06:59.080] because he wasn't exactly sure what he meant by that term.
[06:59.080 --> 07:02.800] He just had this general term that he would throw out there
[07:02.800 --> 07:05.120] and it sounded like it had some meaning.
[07:05.120 --> 07:07.720] I took apart about three or four different terms
[07:07.720 --> 07:10.600] that he was using, that he used all the time.
[07:12.200 --> 07:17.200] And by the time we forcefully re-examine
[07:18.120 --> 07:20.480] the meanings of the terms,
[07:20.480 --> 07:23.320] the whole direction of the conversation changed,
[07:23.320 --> 07:25.440] the whole way we were thinking about it,
[07:25.440 --> 07:28.080] the way he was thinking about the mortgage issue
[07:28.080 --> 07:29.720] had dramatically changed.
[07:30.880 --> 07:34.800] So I started out today to go back through that.
[07:34.800 --> 07:37.040] I've been going back over that
[07:37.040 --> 07:39.600] to see if I could fill in some empty spaces
[07:39.600 --> 07:44.000] because I was surprised at how effective that was
[07:44.000 --> 07:46.840] in altering the way that I use language.
[07:48.360 --> 07:51.160] As you listen to callers on the show,
[07:51.160 --> 07:54.120] you'll find me doing this more and more.
[07:54.120 --> 07:56.520] One thing primarily you'll find me doing
[07:56.520 --> 08:01.040] is stopping people and asking them to define
[08:01.040 --> 08:03.640] the terms or phrases that they're using
[08:03.640 --> 08:08.640] so that we avoid what I call complex equivalence
[08:11.200 --> 08:15.280] where someone has a meaning for a term
[08:16.480 --> 08:21.480] and that term has not necessarily been well-defined
[08:21.480 --> 08:25.760] but the term is used often like he sold a note.
[08:25.760 --> 08:29.760] And we tend not to ask, what does that really mean?
[08:31.240 --> 08:33.680] And I'll be asking, I'll be doing that a lot more,
[08:33.680 --> 08:37.120] asking for more specificity in the terms we use.
[08:38.520 --> 08:43.520] Well, it looks like I've already had a caller drop off.
[08:44.240 --> 08:46.280] Well, that's annoying.
[08:46.280 --> 08:48.840] Okay, before Jeff drops off,
[08:48.840 --> 08:50.480] we're gonna go to Jeff in Mississippi,
[08:50.480 --> 08:51.880] hello, Mr. Jeff.
[08:53.200 --> 08:55.520] Hi, Randy, thanks for having me on the show.
[08:55.520 --> 08:59.240] Glad to have you, what are you up to today?
[09:02.000 --> 09:07.000] Okay, well, I filed a Title 42, 1983 suit.
[09:08.000 --> 09:13.000] They responded with a 12B6 and I responded with an answer.
[09:14.240 --> 09:15.880] They responded with an answer
[09:16.880 --> 09:19.080] but their answers were kind of silly.
[09:19.080 --> 09:20.880] They didn't have any substance at all.
[09:20.880 --> 09:23.920] In fact, to me, they were just all out lies.
[09:23.920 --> 09:27.920] So I got impatient and filed a motion for sanctions
[09:29.800 --> 09:32.120] and that's already filed in.
[09:32.120 --> 09:35.320] Right after I did that, a friend emailed me
[09:35.320 --> 09:38.400] and said I should have filed a motion to strike.
[09:39.240 --> 09:41.240] So I might've made a boo boo, what do you think?
[09:43.520 --> 09:45.600] What were you going to strike?
[09:45.600 --> 09:47.680] What were you going to strike?
[09:50.080 --> 09:53.760] I don't know, that's what he had commented on.
[09:53.760 --> 09:58.760] No, motion to strike is really pretty specific.
[09:58.840 --> 10:03.200] If they filed a motion that contains
[10:04.120 --> 10:08.320] what you consider to be falsehoods,
[10:08.320 --> 10:12.320] then you can address the falsehoods.
[10:12.320 --> 10:17.320] If someone has filed a document in the case
[10:18.840 --> 10:22.040] and they have no power to file it
[10:24.120 --> 10:28.600] or if they filed a 12B6 and they came back
[10:28.600 --> 10:31.000] with a motion for default judgment,
[10:32.680 --> 10:36.920] then you could, they're both kind of the same thing
[10:36.920 --> 10:39.520] so you can move to strike one of them.
[10:39.520 --> 10:43.600] But it's inappropriate to strike a pleading
[10:43.600 --> 10:45.880] that has arguments that you feel are,
[10:49.920 --> 10:53.960] how to say that, has issues in it that are misargued
[10:54.840 --> 10:57.840] or has falsehoods in it.
[10:57.840 --> 11:01.000] To strike it would be inappropriate.
[11:03.440 --> 11:06.280] Or to address the falsehoods and maybe sanctions,
[11:06.280 --> 11:09.320] that's not necessarily, that would seem to me
[11:09.320 --> 11:11.760] to be a more appropriate method.
[11:13.400 --> 11:15.600] At least, a lot of people are going to say,
[11:15.600 --> 11:16.800] well, you shouldn't follow this thing.
[11:16.800 --> 11:18.800] I know Jeff said you're a student.
[11:18.800 --> 11:21.640] He gets a little tense when we start going after
[11:21.640 --> 11:23.120] the lawyers on the other side.
[11:24.240 --> 11:27.640] But in the end, the judge is a human being.
[11:29.000 --> 11:33.320] And he's also a lawyer, was a lawyer.
[11:34.240 --> 11:36.640] And he's not necessarily going to like the fact
[11:36.640 --> 11:41.640] that this pro se goes after the lawyer sanction.
[11:43.840 --> 11:46.280] But then on the other hand, you've made it clear
[11:46.280 --> 11:49.440] to the court that you feel the lawyer
[11:49.440 --> 11:53.760] is out of the right line and should be smacked for it.
[11:55.080 --> 11:57.800] Whether he agrees with you or not,
[11:57.800 --> 12:02.800] it puts that in the mind of the court.
[12:02.800 --> 12:07.800] And certainly, address is it for the other side.
[12:09.200 --> 12:12.560] If the other side knows you're going to come straight away,
[12:14.360 --> 12:16.920] prevaricate in their pleadings,
[12:16.920 --> 12:18.960] then I don't see that as a bad thing.
[12:20.360 --> 12:22.280] And filing a motion for sanctions
[12:22.280 --> 12:26.160] and getting the motion for saying this,
[12:26.160 --> 12:28.200] I don't think that's a bad thing either.
[12:28.200 --> 12:33.200] Because it's likely to get the court
[12:35.160 --> 12:37.640] to look more closely at the pleadings.
[12:39.000 --> 12:44.000] And this is not from a legal perspective
[12:44.480 --> 12:46.640] that I'm saying this.
[12:46.640 --> 12:50.320] And that's because in the end,
[12:50.320 --> 12:52.360] you won't win your case simply because
[12:52.360 --> 12:55.040] you have the law and the facts on your side.
[12:55.040 --> 12:58.120] You win the case if you have the politics on your side.
[12:58.120 --> 13:03.120] And this is more in on the order of thinking
[13:03.160 --> 13:06.880] of the case from a political perspective.
[13:07.920 --> 13:08.760] Okay.
[13:09.720 --> 13:13.360] But I wouldn't say in order, if you moved to strike,
[13:13.360 --> 13:16.120] you would have to have specific grounds
[13:16.120 --> 13:17.840] to strike a pleading.
[13:20.200 --> 13:21.640] Like their argument,
[13:21.640 --> 13:24.280] they argued that they had qualified immunity.
[13:24.280 --> 13:26.960] They cited some kind of case law.
[13:26.960 --> 13:28.480] I forgot what it was.
[13:28.480 --> 13:30.520] We'll just say it was A versus B.
[13:30.520 --> 13:33.160] Well, then I look up that case law
[13:33.160 --> 13:35.800] and the case law actually sides on my side.
[13:35.800 --> 13:38.720] That yes, if an officer is acting in accordance,
[13:38.720 --> 13:39.960] then they do have immunity.
[13:39.960 --> 13:42.400] But then once they run around and break the law
[13:42.400 --> 13:45.320] and steal something, then they're up for criminal charges.
[13:48.520 --> 13:51.200] That is one of the things
[13:51.200 --> 13:56.120] that is most likely to get a lawyer sanctioned.
[13:56.120 --> 13:58.640] Now, you're just the ignorant old pro se.
[13:58.640 --> 14:02.920] You can make a improper argument before the court,
[14:02.920 --> 14:05.560] but lawyers, they're learning to counsel.
[14:06.800 --> 14:09.960] Not only can they not misargue a case,
[14:09.960 --> 14:12.240] they must argue both sides.
[14:12.240 --> 14:13.160] They're required to.
[14:13.160 --> 14:18.000] It's in the bar association standards.
[14:20.640 --> 14:23.760] And talking to lawyers, that's one thing they're afraid of
[14:23.760 --> 14:28.000] is misarguing a case, because you've got a judge here.
[14:29.120 --> 14:31.640] You misargue your case, it's the judge.
[14:31.640 --> 14:36.200] You give him case law and you misargue the case law.
[14:36.200 --> 14:37.440] He sends that up.
[14:37.440 --> 14:41.360] He agrees with you and then the other side appeals
[14:41.360 --> 14:43.000] and that goes up to the appeals court
[14:43.000 --> 14:44.640] and the appeals court gets it.
[14:44.640 --> 14:47.680] And they come back and say, what the heck is this garbage?
[14:48.600 --> 14:51.200] What are you doing sending us trash like this?
[14:51.200 --> 14:54.240] The judge is not gonna be a happy camper.
[14:55.640 --> 14:59.640] So the judge wants good law.
[14:59.640 --> 15:04.280] So I would say arguing, misarguing a case,
[15:04.280 --> 15:07.800] I think that's a great thing to ask for sanctions over.
[15:07.800 --> 15:08.840] Good.
[15:08.840 --> 15:13.840] Okay, my second question is I'm going through two courts.
[15:14.160 --> 15:16.200] I still have not had an answer.
[15:16.200 --> 15:18.120] I'm going through another court in Mississippi,
[15:18.120 --> 15:21.240] but we're gonna try to move it to my state in Arkansas
[15:21.240 --> 15:23.800] so I don't have to communicate through the mail.
[15:24.760 --> 15:28.680] We haven't done that yet, but I also filed a motion
[15:28.680 --> 15:31.800] for sanction in my court here in Arkansas
[15:31.800 --> 15:34.040] on a case that I'm doing here.
[15:34.040 --> 15:35.680] So I basically got one case out of state,
[15:35.680 --> 15:36.960] one case in state.
[15:36.960 --> 15:41.720] The case in state, I went in, dropped the motion off.
[15:41.720 --> 15:46.240] Do I need to turn around and set a time
[15:46.240 --> 15:49.320] for a motion hearing, you know, like Thursday at two o'clock?
[15:52.160 --> 15:54.680] Or will they get to that or how will that work?
[15:54.680 --> 15:58.000] Okay, here's how you normally do that.
[15:59.160 --> 16:04.160] This is civil, so they expect both sides to be civil
[16:07.840 --> 16:12.840] and generally both sides are lawyers.
[16:12.840 --> 16:15.760] So one lawyer just doesn't just go in and say,
[16:15.760 --> 16:17.920] okay, I'm gonna set it for this day
[16:17.920 --> 16:21.360] and that other lawyer is gonna have to readjust his schedule
[16:21.360 --> 16:23.880] and be here on this day at that time.
[16:23.880 --> 16:24.720] They don't go for that.
[16:24.720 --> 16:27.040] They get real excited about that.
[16:27.040 --> 16:29.760] So they expect you to file the motion
[16:29.760 --> 16:31.360] and then contact the other side
[16:31.360 --> 16:36.360] and go to the court recorder, the coordinator,
[16:36.920 --> 16:39.400] and ask, when's the time that's good for,
[16:39.400 --> 16:43.560] give me a couple of days on which you can set this motion.
[16:43.560 --> 16:45.560] And then you ask the other side,
[16:45.560 --> 16:48.080] which day is best for you, if neither are,
[16:48.080 --> 16:48.920] give me a suggestion.
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[19:34.560 --> 20:03.560] Okay, we are back.
[20:03.560 --> 20:04.880] Randy Hilton, Debra Stevens,
[20:04.880 --> 20:08.200] Rule of Law Radio, and we have Mr. Jeff Sedgwick
[20:08.200 --> 20:10.080] on the bridge with us.
[20:10.080 --> 20:12.480] And he has a question for Mr. Jeff.
[20:15.160 --> 20:16.160] Go ahead, Jeff.
[20:17.120 --> 20:21.320] Okay, I want to revisit one of your cases,
[20:21.320 --> 20:24.840] having to do with they answered, you answered, they answered,
[20:24.840 --> 20:27.120] and you found a motion for sanctions.
[20:28.080 --> 20:29.480] Yeah.
[20:29.480 --> 20:30.480] Okay.
[20:30.480 --> 20:32.040] Did you contact the other side
[20:32.040 --> 20:34.760] before you filed for your motion for sanctions?
[20:36.640 --> 20:38.560] Only to send him discovery.
[20:40.520 --> 20:44.280] So you didn't send him a copy of the motion for sanction.
[20:44.280 --> 20:45.480] You didn't have a discussion
[20:45.480 --> 20:48.800] with the correctionist, bad behavior, right?
[20:48.800 --> 20:49.640] No.
[20:50.560 --> 20:53.920] Okay, so here's the truth about that.
[20:53.920 --> 20:57.120] It's not likely you're going to, that motion will survive
[20:57.120 --> 20:59.600] because you violated the rules.
[20:59.600 --> 21:02.440] Uh-huh.
[21:02.440 --> 21:03.280] And which one is that?
[21:03.280 --> 21:05.360] You're supposed to consult with the other side.
[21:05.360 --> 21:07.000] They are supposed to have,
[21:07.000 --> 21:09.800] I'm not sure if it's 14 days or 21 days
[21:09.800 --> 21:12.360] in which to amend their bad behavior
[21:12.360 --> 21:15.880] before you file your motion for sanction.
[21:15.880 --> 21:18.000] So what you did was improper.
[21:19.680 --> 21:23.560] Well, I filed an amended complaint after his 12b6,
[21:23.560 --> 21:24.840] and then the amended complaint,
[21:24.840 --> 21:27.600] I stated that he had miscited case law,
[21:27.600 --> 21:30.160] and then he came back with another 12b6
[21:30.160 --> 21:31.040] and did the same thing,
[21:31.040 --> 21:33.040] and then I filed motion for sanctions.
[21:34.160 --> 21:36.280] Yes, but you see, you still have to consult
[21:36.280 --> 21:40.280] with the other side first before a motion for sanctions.
[21:40.280 --> 21:42.640] It's in the rules.
[21:42.640 --> 21:44.880] Which rule is that, do you know?
[21:44.880 --> 21:47.040] Civil Rules of Civil Procedure.
[21:47.040 --> 21:48.800] Offhand, I do not know.
[21:49.680 --> 21:50.880] Okay.
[21:50.880 --> 21:52.320] You know, a lot of times I know the rules,
[21:52.320 --> 21:54.480] but just when I do not happen to remember.
[21:55.440 --> 21:56.440] Okay, so.
[21:56.440 --> 22:01.280] You have to give the other side notice and opportunity.
[22:02.200 --> 22:03.840] Yeah, that's right.
[22:03.840 --> 22:05.360] To amend their bad behavior.
[22:06.560 --> 22:08.960] So just basically send them a demand letter.
[22:11.840 --> 22:13.520] Say again, please.
[22:13.520 --> 22:17.280] A demand letter, send them a demand letter.
[22:17.280 --> 22:20.240] No, no, no, no, no, you send them your motion.
[22:20.240 --> 22:22.960] You send them your motion for sanctions,
[22:22.960 --> 22:25.440] and you tell them that they did this wrong,
[22:25.440 --> 22:27.240] this wrong, this wrong, this wrong.
[22:27.240 --> 22:30.760] And, you know, as far as you're concerned,
[22:30.760 --> 22:33.000] and you're giving them their just due opportunity
[22:33.000 --> 22:34.800] to amend their bad behavior.
[22:34.800 --> 22:37.680] And then you have to allow them to either file in
[22:40.120 --> 22:41.280] a response to your
[22:45.040 --> 22:45.960] motion for
[22:48.240 --> 22:49.080] sanctions.
[22:49.080 --> 22:51.080] Well, they'll file that in anyway.
[22:51.080 --> 22:53.560] But if they have the opportunity,
[22:53.560 --> 22:58.360] they can file an amended 12b6 motion,
[22:58.360 --> 23:00.840] or withdraw it.
[23:02.000 --> 23:02.840] Okay.
[23:03.960 --> 23:07.600] If you don't give them that opportunity,
[23:08.840 --> 23:11.160] if you don't give them that opportunity,
[23:11.160 --> 23:13.360] chances are the court out of hand
[23:13.360 --> 23:15.840] is going to dismiss your motion.
[23:15.840 --> 23:17.280] Okay.
[23:17.280 --> 23:18.280] All right.
[23:18.280 --> 23:21.520] He may cut you a slight because you're pro se,
[23:21.520 --> 23:24.960] but on motions for sanction, I don't think so.
[23:27.560 --> 23:30.560] I don't think he'll cut you any slack on that at all.
[23:30.560 --> 23:32.560] Because one of the things you aren't supposed to do,
[23:32.560 --> 23:34.080] even though you're pro se,
[23:34.080 --> 23:36.680] you're supposed to read and learn the rules.
[23:36.680 --> 23:37.760] Read and learn the rules.
[23:37.760 --> 23:38.720] Okay.
[23:38.720 --> 23:39.560] Yeah.
[23:41.160 --> 23:42.360] Well, I missed that one.
[23:43.600 --> 23:46.520] Well, hey, it's happened to the best of us.
[23:46.520 --> 23:48.600] How do you think I know about it?
[23:48.600 --> 23:49.440] Yeah.
[23:49.440 --> 23:52.640] Well, he probably won't make the same mistake again,
[23:52.640 --> 23:53.480] that's for sure.
[23:54.800 --> 23:56.720] I wouldn't count on that.
[23:56.720 --> 23:57.560] I wouldn't, first off,
[23:57.560 --> 23:59.840] I wouldn't count on him not doing it again.
[23:59.840 --> 24:02.040] And I wouldn't count on it being a mistake.
[24:04.120 --> 24:04.960] Okay.
[24:04.960 --> 24:05.920] Well, I hope I popped him in the nose
[24:05.920 --> 24:07.320] enough to teach him a lesson.
[24:08.640 --> 24:10.080] Well,
[24:10.080 --> 24:11.400] pardon me.
[24:11.400 --> 24:13.000] That could be,
[24:13.000 --> 24:15.240] but you also have to consider
[24:15.240 --> 24:18.280] that some of these attorneys are made out of grant.
[24:18.280 --> 24:19.120] Okay.
[24:19.120 --> 24:21.640] That was, that was what I was thinking.
[24:21.640 --> 24:24.000] They,
[24:24.000 --> 24:27.520] I'm amazed at how countless a lot of these lawyers are.
[24:30.520 --> 24:31.840] They seem to think that,
[24:31.840 --> 24:34.200] especially to do with the pro se,
[24:34.200 --> 24:36.480] that they can pretty well do anything they want to
[24:36.480 --> 24:38.920] and the court will rule in their favor.
[24:38.920 --> 24:39.800] And to a large degree,
[24:39.800 --> 24:42.800] You hear yourself personally run across people
[24:42.800 --> 24:44.440] that know what they know
[24:44.440 --> 24:46.680] and other people don't know squat,
[24:46.680 --> 24:49.360] especially not pro se's.
[24:52.160 --> 24:56.160] And that seems to be a presumption that
[24:56.160 --> 24:58.800] if you are a pro se,
[24:58.800 --> 25:00.560] whatever you bring is trash
[25:01.600 --> 25:03.800] and then they don't have to worry about it.
[25:05.120 --> 25:08.120] If you're in Judge McBride's court,
[25:08.120 --> 25:10.280] that's absolutely true.
[25:13.560 --> 25:15.520] He's a federal judge in Fort Worth.
[25:15.520 --> 25:17.000] And is there a court hearing
[25:17.000 --> 25:20.160] and try to coordinate that with the court coordinator?
[25:23.000 --> 25:25.320] Yeah, setting a hearing.
[25:25.320 --> 25:27.000] When you set a hearing,
[25:27.000 --> 25:30.840] you want to get a couple of dates from the court coordinator.
[25:30.840 --> 25:35.840] Dates that each court has certain days
[25:35.840 --> 25:38.640] that they hold motion hearings.
[25:38.640 --> 25:40.120] So you get a couple of dates
[25:40.120 --> 25:42.240] and then you contact the other side
[25:42.240 --> 25:47.240] Which of these two dates would be with her seat them if neither
[25:47.700 --> 25:51.720] then suggest a date a couple of days that would be
[25:53.820 --> 25:55.820] That we fit into their schedule and
[25:56.520 --> 26:02.480] then you did two of the two sides try to agree on a date that fits everybody's schedule and
[26:02.920 --> 26:08.520] Then you go to the court and ask the court you notice the court that
[26:08.520 --> 26:16.960] You can conferred with opposing counsel and agreed on the state and ask them to set a hearing for this date
[26:17.760 --> 26:21.680] This is kind of the civil side of civil proceedings
[26:22.760 --> 26:24.760] And it goes very well with
[26:25.640 --> 26:31.160] The rule on giving the other side notice an opportunity before you sting them
[26:31.160 --> 26:37.200] That's a very civil thing to do and it fits very well with civil behavior
[26:38.560 --> 26:43.000] Okay, my last question is I still have this case in Mississippi
[26:43.520 --> 26:49.560] And we had decided that we wanted to move it to Arkansas. So I filed a motion to change venue
[26:49.560 --> 26:51.960] I have not heard back from them on
[26:52.960 --> 26:58.640] That motion and I really can't set a motion hearing because I'd have to drive 600 miles and I don't want to do that
[26:58.640 --> 27:00.520] Well
[27:00.520 --> 27:06.360] One of the things that I tend to do is a matter of course in federal cases
[27:07.000 --> 27:11.760] Is that always object to oral hearings and requests that the court?
[27:13.040 --> 27:15.640] Make all these decisions based on the pleadings
[27:16.400 --> 27:19.960] Claiming that as a pro se I would be at a distinct disadvantage
[27:22.000 --> 27:24.000] I have another question
[27:25.560 --> 27:27.560] Yes
[27:27.560 --> 27:33.440] Did you send a copy of that motion to transfer to Arkansas?
[27:34.920 --> 27:36.920] No
[27:37.040 --> 27:40.200] Do you know what the rules in Arkansas are on transfers?
[27:41.800 --> 27:43.440] No
[27:43.440 --> 27:46.880] Do you know what the rules are in Mississippi on transfers?
[27:48.000 --> 27:50.880] No, I just know what the federal rules are
[27:50.880 --> 27:56.360] Okay, but I have in the federal rules you have to notify the other court
[27:57.640 --> 27:59.400] Okay
[27:59.400 --> 28:04.560] Yeah, otherwise, it just sits there in language isn't the yellow then the paper turns yellow
[28:05.840 --> 28:09.360] Well, that's what I was wondering. Okay, so there's another part that I missed
[28:10.520 --> 28:12.520] So take a lesson from this guy
[28:13.560 --> 28:15.560] Read the damn rules
[28:15.880 --> 28:17.880] Mm-hmm
[28:17.880 --> 28:20.200] Okay
[28:20.200 --> 28:28.640] And don't forget the rules evidence. They're a very fast read. There are very few of them to read them. They're important
[28:29.480 --> 28:31.480] Okay
[28:31.640 --> 28:37.120] So I'm going to notify my Arkansas court I'm going to what should I do with the Mississippi court send them another
[28:38.080 --> 28:40.400] Letter to try to get out what the rules are
[28:40.400 --> 28:48.480] Okay for transferring find out what the rules are in Arkansas for transferring because it could be that Mississippi court's sitting there waiting for
[28:48.480 --> 28:53.360] Some sort of acknowledgment from Arkansas. I don't know but you need to find out what the rules are
[28:54.160 --> 28:56.160] Wait a minute. I need a clarification
[28:56.880 --> 29:01.920] Are we talking about state to state or are we talking about a federal case?
[29:03.200 --> 29:08.080] State to state from from one one district to another federal district
[29:08.080 --> 29:10.080] to another federal district
[29:10.160 --> 29:12.160] Okay
[29:14.880 --> 29:16.880] That was what I wasn't sure of because
[29:23.440 --> 29:29.760] Can't move a Mississippi case to Arkansas if they're state cases that's just not going to happen
[29:31.200 --> 29:34.200] So it had to be federal but yeah, it's federal
[29:34.200 --> 29:41.640] They'd get get the local rules for each court because you're likely to have some local issues as well. All right
[29:42.440 --> 29:44.440] hang on
[29:44.600 --> 29:48.440] Hang on back to the break reindeer kelton deborah stevens radio
[29:49.400 --> 29:54.520] I'll call it number five one two six four six nineteen eighty-four. We'll be right back
[29:54.520 --> 29:57.640] Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you
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[33:06.880 --> 33:17.360] Uh, yes, mr. Officer you're taking me like the head
[33:17.360 --> 33:35.040] I want you to follow the law of the land
[33:47.360 --> 33:49.360] Of you
[33:57.040 --> 34:01.280] Okay, we are back randy kelton deborah students rule of law video
[34:03.040 --> 34:04.480] And
[34:04.480 --> 34:10.240] We're going to do we lost jeff dropped off over the break. Then we're going to go to samantha in texas. Hello samantha
[34:11.440 --> 34:13.680] Hi, randy. Thank you for taking my call
[34:13.680 --> 34:19.120] Uh, just wanted to say you guys are doing awesome and love what you're doing
[34:19.440 --> 34:23.280] My family and I have been listening in for a few at least a few years now
[34:24.560 --> 34:28.640] Um, I wanted to tell you about a story that happened at the end of april
[34:29.120 --> 34:30.320] um
[34:30.320 --> 34:31.660] an
[34:31.660 --> 34:38.240] Anti-floridation activist named regina imbergia organized a meetup at the dallas city city council to voice our concern
[34:39.280 --> 34:41.360] and uh
[34:41.360 --> 34:42.800] the mayor
[34:42.800 --> 34:44.640] dallas city mayor
[34:44.640 --> 34:47.600] Rawlings told speakers not to play any audio or video
[34:48.560 --> 34:50.560] and uh
[34:51.120 --> 34:54.960] Until we did anyway, and uh, we had a council member
[34:55.500 --> 34:57.600] philip t kingston
[34:57.600 --> 35:02.320] Say that our one of our videos sounded like foreign background music
[35:03.760 --> 35:06.320] So I wanted to get your thoughts about
[35:06.320 --> 35:12.800] Um, what do you think about them posting on social media while we're speaking like?
[35:13.600 --> 35:17.140] How it's so disrespectful. I just wanted to know your thoughts
[35:22.000 --> 35:24.000] Hello
[35:24.480 --> 35:26.240] Hello
[35:26.240 --> 35:29.680] Oh somebody muted my I had a train in the background so I was muted out
[35:29.680 --> 35:34.960] Uh the mayor instructed
[35:37.120 --> 35:43.040] Your people not to post any of what was going on on social media
[35:44.240 --> 35:46.240] No, no the mayor
[35:46.320 --> 35:50.240] Told speakers that they were not allowed to play video or audio
[35:50.960 --> 35:52.960] and we our event
[35:53.520 --> 35:54.720] was
[35:54.720 --> 35:56.000] to play
[35:56.000 --> 36:01.520] Video or audio regardless because it's our three minutes. We should be able to spend it. However, we want
[36:02.800 --> 36:07.940] And he doesn't want to play video or audio because it's informative information
[36:10.000 --> 36:16.560] Okay, you put did you play this in the council chambers in in in the meeting
[36:17.760 --> 36:19.760] Yes
[36:19.760 --> 36:24.480] Um, what did he do as a result of your playing death?
[36:26.160 --> 36:31.360] Now, uh when I came into the chamber he was gone and um
[36:32.480 --> 36:33.840] so
[36:33.840 --> 36:36.960] That was earlier in the day when others were speaking
[36:38.080 --> 36:40.960] So by the time I got in, um, he was gone
[36:41.600 --> 36:46.800] So we did play the video and they didn't give us any hassle this time
[36:47.840 --> 36:49.200] um
[36:49.200 --> 36:51.200] but
[36:51.280 --> 36:52.320] Um
[36:52.320 --> 36:56.240] The councilman philip t kinkston of the 14th district
[36:57.440 --> 36:59.440] He posted on
[36:59.520 --> 37:01.520] Facebook and twitter
[37:01.840 --> 37:04.720] While I was speaking well while I was playing my video
[37:05.760 --> 37:06.640] and
[37:06.640 --> 37:08.640] He quoted
[37:10.240 --> 37:14.320] Prohibitionist videos have porn sounding background music
[37:14.320 --> 37:19.380] Um, and then you said ban ban hammer. I don't even know what that means
[37:23.120 --> 37:28.480] Okay, well you know he can pretty well post anything he wants to
[37:29.840 --> 37:32.880] Uh, what I was going to con question about
[37:34.080 --> 37:36.320] the restriction by the mayor
[37:36.320 --> 37:42.420] Mayor and read the rules for city council meetings
[37:45.680 --> 37:47.360] No
[37:47.360 --> 37:53.860] Okay, you might get the rules. I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Yes, I have and we can play video and audio
[37:55.840 --> 38:01.780] And if that's the case you don't care what the mayor wants or doesn't want exactly
[38:01.780 --> 38:03.780] Exactly
[38:04.820 --> 38:11.780] He uh, he's a public servant you're the master if he has not published a rule
[38:14.020 --> 38:21.300] For as I know he cannot make uh at enforce an arbitrary and capricious rule
[38:23.300 --> 38:25.300] Yeah
[38:25.300 --> 38:28.180] Besides I like to violate minor little rules anyway
[38:28.180 --> 38:33.060] And as to the city council member member making comments about that
[38:33.780 --> 38:35.780] on social media
[38:36.500 --> 38:38.500] He can absolutely do that
[38:40.100 --> 38:41.060] Yeah
[38:41.060 --> 38:46.100] And you can comment back but that goes to his first amendment, right?
[38:46.820 --> 38:48.820] Even if you don't like it
[38:49.460 --> 38:53.380] You know unless he pastes something posts something that is
[38:53.380 --> 39:01.140] Is untrue or or inappropriate but yeah, he can absolutely do that
[39:03.380 --> 39:05.140] It's just uh
[39:05.140 --> 39:10.260] It's sad to see them just not cared. They're all on their phones on their computers
[39:10.740 --> 39:12.660] talking amongst themselves
[39:12.660 --> 39:14.900] They're just showing total disrespect
[39:15.620 --> 39:19.940] And uh, I I hate to see us have a label like that on our
[39:19.940 --> 39:22.980] Our while we're speaking
[39:23.940 --> 39:28.900] Well, you know, uh, it's a problem that I have in court with judges and
[39:29.540 --> 39:32.440] And prosecutors being incredibly disrespectful
[39:33.940 --> 39:39.220] I have gotten better at dealing with that and what's helped me to get better
[39:39.940 --> 39:41.940] Is thinking of myself?
[39:42.980 --> 39:45.140] As the master of my servants
[39:45.140 --> 39:50.840] Yes, so if I have a judge who raises for us to be now I become very indignant
[39:53.300 --> 39:55.220] And I remind the court
[39:55.220 --> 40:00.820] That it is the duty of the court to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence to provide the laws to consume the facts in the case
[40:01.060 --> 40:05.620] He has some other agenda some personal passion that he's brought to the court
[40:06.340 --> 40:10.740] He needs to take that home with him or get down off the bench and you might
[40:10.740 --> 40:18.020] So instruct the city council members that they are public servants. They are not the masters of the
[40:19.540 --> 40:27.620] Servants and might conduct themselves in a civil and professional manner. You can dress them down just like they can dress you down
[40:29.540 --> 40:35.460] Oh, yeah, and i'm sure um, we will because we're having another death on june 8th
[40:35.460 --> 40:41.780] Um, and if people go to the facebook fluoride action north texas, they can sign up
[40:42.420 --> 40:47.460] But um last time we had 18 speakers and played nine videos
[40:48.980 --> 40:56.180] So we're getting the word that we're educating people. Hopefully we can get them to stop adding fluoride to the water
[40:56.180 --> 41:04.980] Sorry, okay. Um, there's a pretty large group. Are you familiar with dr. Katherine albrick?
[41:06.340 --> 41:07.540] Yes
[41:07.540 --> 41:09.540] She's on gsn
[41:09.860 --> 41:12.500] You might look up dr. Katherine albrick
[41:13.540 --> 41:16.900] Uh, she's absolutely one of my favorite human beings on earth
[41:17.700 --> 41:20.980] And she does a lot of work in this area
[41:22.100 --> 41:23.540] and
[41:23.540 --> 41:25.540] I think it was
[41:25.540 --> 41:29.540] San marcos that got the the fluoride out of the water completely
[41:31.700 --> 41:33.300] Oh, wow
[41:33.300 --> 41:38.260] So you might talk to her she can get you connected with some folks or send me an email
[41:39.620 --> 41:43.460] Address to cat to katherine albrick and I will forward it to her
[41:45.460 --> 41:47.460] Okay, sounds good
[41:47.780 --> 41:49.940] And she's one of the smartest people I know
[41:49.940 --> 41:55.860] And she proved that to me when I first met her we were at the brave new books and she was doing a presentation
[41:56.500 --> 41:58.500] And someone introduced me
[41:59.460 --> 42:04.740] To katherine albrick and she looked at me and said why mr. Kelton? You're a good looking man
[42:05.460 --> 42:09.460] And I said miss albrick. You are really smart
[42:12.260 --> 42:15.620] That's funny I saw her new books as well
[42:15.620 --> 42:20.660] Well, yeah katherine is is he is absolutely a sweetheart
[42:21.780 --> 42:24.660] Yeah, and she is just very up on this issue
[42:25.540 --> 42:30.740] So send me an email randy at rule of law radio dot com
[42:31.940 --> 42:36.820] And I will get it to katherine and i'm sure she'll be back to you and i'll also
[42:37.860 --> 42:39.860] Get her email and send it to you
[42:39.860 --> 42:46.580] Okay, awesome and um, I just wanted to um say something real quick
[42:47.700 --> 42:49.700] this saturday in uh
[42:50.660 --> 42:56.420] downtown fort worth an activist named bob spiley is having a um
[42:57.140 --> 43:01.380] a booth out at the global marijuana marijuana march, um in
[43:02.580 --> 43:07.940] Support of fully informed jury association. We'll be out there handing out
[43:07.940 --> 43:14.680] Um information about uh, your rights as a juror and trying to educate people about nullification
[43:16.180 --> 43:20.420] Okay, his name was bob. What was the last name? Bob smiley
[43:21.540 --> 43:23.780] s m i l e y
[43:26.340 --> 43:29.220] Smiley oh, it's just one. Does he make faces?
[43:31.700 --> 43:33.700] No
[43:33.700 --> 43:38.980] Uh, that was one of those that was timed humor. He's probably never heard that joke before
[43:40.100 --> 43:44.660] Okay, and he is at downtown fort worth. We're at in downtown fort worth
[43:45.620 --> 43:47.780] Um, I believe that this tree
[43:48.180 --> 43:54.260] Um, but they can go on uh vda's facebook page and they can sign up for the event. Okay
[43:54.820 --> 43:58.260] Hang on. We're about to go to break. We'll we'll get this on the other side. Randy
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[46:54.920 --> 46:58.440] Okay, we are back randy kelton rule our radio
[46:58.440 --> 47:01.420] And we're talking to samantha in texas
[47:03.480 --> 47:04.840] Okay
[47:04.840 --> 47:06.840] downtown fort worth is he is
[47:07.320 --> 47:09.160] bob smiley
[47:09.160 --> 47:10.680] on
[47:10.680 --> 47:11.880] in
[47:11.880 --> 47:15.880] Information on an informed jury. I take it. He will be around the old courthouse
[47:16.520 --> 47:18.600] Is he not in one fixed location?
[47:20.280 --> 47:25.960] Oh, I apologize. It is um at hide park at 101 west ninth street
[47:25.960 --> 47:31.160] At what time at 11? And we'll be there probably until five
[47:33.000 --> 47:35.000] 11 to five
[47:36.440 --> 47:37.640] Okay
[47:37.640 --> 47:39.640] Anyone in dallas fort worth area
[47:40.200 --> 47:41.640] if you're
[47:41.640 --> 47:47.240] Interested in informed juries that might be a good place to go and make some connections
[47:48.600 --> 47:50.600] Okay, go ahead. I kind of interrupted you there
[47:50.600 --> 47:58.280] Oh, I was just saying the march, um starts around three and uh, we just ask people if they can make signs about nullification and
[47:59.080 --> 48:01.080] um jury rights, so
[48:02.760 --> 48:04.760] Okay, wonderful can come out yeah
[48:07.080 --> 48:11.400] Okay, that's 101 west ninth street bob smiley
[48:12.520 --> 48:14.520] What was the date again? I don't know
[48:14.520 --> 48:21.240] It's 101 west ninth street bob smiley. What was the date again? I don't have it written down
[48:21.960 --> 48:23.960] It's uh this saturday
[48:25.080 --> 48:27.320] Saturday that will be
[48:30.680 --> 48:33.320] Seventh saturday the seventh of may
[48:35.720 --> 48:43.480] Yeah, um I recently started getting involved in this because my husband is serving on the grand jury right now and
[48:43.480 --> 48:46.760] and um, he's been talking to me about the procedures and
[48:47.560 --> 48:49.560] It's just so sad that
[48:49.800 --> 48:53.640] Especially the grand jury is just being controlled by the prosecution
[48:54.520 --> 48:57.800] Wait a minute. Hold on. You know someone serving on the grand jury
[48:58.920 --> 49:00.600] My husband
[49:00.600 --> 49:02.600] Oh my goodness
[49:02.600 --> 49:11.560] Uh, I am preparing criminal charges against federal judge McBride
[49:14.200 --> 49:16.200] Make official oppression
[49:17.560 --> 49:20.120] Uh, i've been setting this up for quite a while
[49:21.080 --> 49:25.480] Uh, how long will it be before your husband is off the grand jury?
[49:27.000 --> 49:29.960] Uh, I believe at the end of june so
[49:31.080 --> 49:32.520] Okay
[49:32.520 --> 49:40.280] Uh, I would very much like to talk to him once he gets off the grand jury about grand jury procedures
[49:42.360 --> 49:44.360] Grand jury is what I do
[49:45.400 --> 49:52.120] I just filed first degree felony aggravated assault charges against my district judge here in wise county with the grand jury
[49:52.840 --> 49:57.980] I also filed criminal charges against the texas ranger
[49:57.980 --> 50:05.360] Here one of the problems we have in filing complaints against public officials
[50:07.980 --> 50:15.020] I interviewed Sharon wilson the current district attorney for tarrant county on the show before she was elected
[50:15.740 --> 50:17.100] and
[50:17.100 --> 50:22.460] She's very well aware that i'm pretty knowledgeable in this area. So I gave her
[50:22.460 --> 50:27.580] For the law concerning grand juries and public officials
[50:28.540 --> 50:30.540] And she pretty well
[50:32.140 --> 50:34.060] Back out of the way
[50:34.060 --> 50:35.420] so that
[50:35.420 --> 50:38.780] now in tarrant county you can go directly to the
[50:39.580 --> 50:41.580] grand jury's office
[50:42.220 --> 50:44.380] And give complaints to the bailiff
[50:45.980 --> 50:49.020] So I gave complaints to the bailiff against uh
[50:50.140 --> 50:51.740] through four
[50:51.740 --> 50:58.860] Guards at the county courthouse who the who the third time I called 911 on them
[50:59.740 --> 51:02.620] Drugged me out of the courthouse smashed my face in the concrete
[51:04.140 --> 51:05.020] Oh my goodness
[51:05.020 --> 51:11.500] But I filed complaint I filed complaints with the grand jury because i've tried to file with the sheriff and the sheriff made it clear
[51:12.460 --> 51:19.100] If you file a complaint against the public official against the sheriff's deputy the sheriff's deputy the sheriff's department will do nothing
[51:19.100 --> 51:20.940] They won't touch it
[51:20.940 --> 51:22.940] so
[51:22.940 --> 51:24.940] I filed with the grand jury
[51:25.740 --> 51:30.140] I gave it to the bailiff for the procedure that I use as I go there and I tell him
[51:30.140 --> 51:33.660] My name is randall kelton instructor foreman that I have business with the grand jury
[51:34.620 --> 51:40.220] And they will generally say may I tell them to the business and I say yes, you may give them these and I give them a set
[51:40.220 --> 51:42.300] of complaints
[51:42.300 --> 51:43.580] I don't
[51:43.580 --> 51:49.660] Believe they made it to the grand jury because normally I will get a letter from the foreman
[51:50.620 --> 51:52.620] Telling me what they've done
[51:53.820 --> 51:56.060] I didn't get a letter from them
[51:56.780 --> 51:58.780] There was no
[51:58.940 --> 52:01.180] True bill in the minutes of the court
[52:01.980 --> 52:04.540] Once a grand jury has voted
[52:05.900 --> 52:10.220] They the foreman with a quorum of the grand jury present
[52:10.220 --> 52:14.780] that is required to go before the court or the county or the district clerk
[52:15.820 --> 52:17.100] and
[52:17.100 --> 52:21.260] Read the fact of indictment to the clerk or the court
[52:22.300 --> 52:25.420] And the clerk shall make notes in the minutes of the court
[52:26.140 --> 52:28.620] So I went to look at the minutes of the grand jury
[52:30.220 --> 52:32.220] And there was no mention of these
[52:33.020 --> 52:35.020] Four officers
[52:35.020 --> 52:41.980] The law only requires they give notice of a true bill not notice of a no bill
[52:42.780 --> 52:44.140] so if
[52:44.140 --> 52:48.780] If they know bill that's kind of falling through the cracks and that wouldn't be a problem
[52:50.060 --> 52:57.840] If I had a way to know for certain that the district attorney did not intercept these complaints
[52:58.140 --> 53:00.140] And secret them from the grand jury
[53:00.140 --> 53:04.060] Because that seems to be what they're actually doing
[53:06.940 --> 53:08.940] And i'm working on that
[53:09.820 --> 53:11.820] He's actually the foreman
[53:15.180 --> 53:17.180] Then in that case
[53:17.980 --> 53:22.240] I will bring some complaints down that he might find very interesting
[53:22.240 --> 53:28.480] I have a complaint against a foreman of the grand jury
[53:30.560 --> 53:34.640] I filed criminal charges against craig white kent
[53:36.400 --> 53:38.400] In tarrant county
[53:39.360 --> 53:44.480] I gave them to the to the bailiff and the bailiff actually gave these to the grand jury
[53:46.080 --> 53:49.920] And the reason I took it to tarrant county is because
[53:49.920 --> 53:53.760] Plus I took them to dallas county
[53:56.320 --> 54:04.000] Started with a jp. I filed against one jp with another jp. The second jp sent the complaints back to me saying I
[54:05.440 --> 54:06.880] Filed on us
[54:06.880 --> 54:08.880] I didn't but that's what he said. So
[54:09.280 --> 54:14.240] I went to the district district attorney the dallas county district attorney with complaints against this jp
[54:14.960 --> 54:18.800] And they promptly tossed us out of the building at constructed gunpoint
[54:18.800 --> 54:20.800] to the
[54:21.900 --> 54:23.900] Prosecutors
[54:23.900 --> 54:29.120] Investigators threw us out of the building to prevent us from filing these complaints with the grand jury
[54:30.000 --> 54:31.200] so
[54:31.200 --> 54:37.040] I took criminal criminal complaints against the district district attorney as responding as superior
[54:37.920 --> 54:38.720] to
[54:38.720 --> 54:40.720] tarrant county grand jury and I got
[54:41.760 --> 54:43.760] Foreman of the grand jury stated
[54:43.760 --> 54:48.800] That under 20.09 code of criminal procedure
[54:49.440 --> 54:54.400] the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes subject to
[54:55.600 --> 54:58.480] That come to the knowledge by way of any member of the grand jury
[54:59.360 --> 55:02.720] The prosecuting attorney or any credible person
[55:03.600 --> 55:06.500] And he insisted that he took my complaints very seriously
[55:08.720 --> 55:10.720] But he found no
[55:10.720 --> 55:12.400] No
[55:12.400 --> 55:15.540] Tarrant county crime subject to indictment
[55:17.420 --> 55:19.420] That a fact jack
[55:21.740 --> 55:24.900] Somebody gave that foreman advice
[55:26.320 --> 55:28.320] And it was faulty
[55:29.040 --> 55:33.060] The statute says all crimes subject to indictment
[55:33.060 --> 55:40.520] A grand jury. I'm sorry back up a district judge a district judge impanels the grand jury
[55:44.580 --> 55:46.580] Friction
[55:47.140 --> 55:49.140] A district judge is a statewide judge
[55:50.260 --> 55:53.220] But since we when we didn't have a lot of judges
[55:53.220 --> 56:02.420] Is the district judges used to write a circuit, but now we got a bunch of judges. So they restricted each judge to a specific venue
[56:03.220 --> 56:05.220] There is no
[56:06.180 --> 56:11.540] Like restriction on a grand jury a grand jury is a statewide grand jury
[56:12.900 --> 56:21.240] And they can hear any complaint felony or mis- i'm sorry any complaint subject to indictment from the state of texas
[56:21.240 --> 56:22.680] state of texas
[56:22.680 --> 56:25.000] Someone instructed that grand jury
[56:25.720 --> 56:29.320] That they could only hear complaints that
[56:30.120 --> 56:34.460] Occur in tarrant county and that was patently untrue
[56:36.280 --> 56:38.280] So
[56:38.280 --> 56:40.280] My only way
[56:40.440 --> 56:42.200] That is
[56:42.200 --> 56:44.200] Make a complaint against the foreman
[56:44.760 --> 56:47.320] And then the foreman will come back with
[56:47.320 --> 56:50.600] a good faith reliance on competent authority
[56:52.040 --> 56:55.720] And I certainly want to know who that competent authority was
[56:56.920 --> 57:01.800] I think it was the district judge that impaneled the grand jury because I believe sure
[57:02.280 --> 57:06.840] Wooks and stood aside and said nothing. She stayed out of it all together
[57:07.240 --> 57:12.520] So I suspect they had to go to the district judge to get advice and the district judge hadn't
[57:12.520 --> 57:17.960] Been indoctrinated onto the fine points of the law and gave the foreman
[57:18.840 --> 57:20.840] bad advice
[57:21.560 --> 57:27.960] And when I get the foreman to feed me the district judge i'm going to land on that district judge with both feet
[57:29.480 --> 57:31.480] I will be suing the judge
[57:32.180 --> 57:34.180] Personally because when they give legal advice
[57:34.840 --> 57:36.840] They're not a judge. They're a lawyer
[57:37.400 --> 57:39.480] And there is no immunity for that
[57:39.480 --> 57:48.360] I'm trying to get the grand jury opened up. So there's no political interface between the public and the grand jury
[57:50.040 --> 57:57.800] Right now prosecuting attorneys try to insulate the grand jury from complaints that the prosecutor doesn't want to
[57:58.580 --> 58:00.580] prosecute
[58:01.080 --> 58:02.040] Yeah
[58:02.040 --> 58:05.000] That that is patently wrong
[58:05.000 --> 58:12.840] The very reason the grand jury is in place is to keep the prosecuting attorney
[58:14.760 --> 58:16.760] He needs to prosecute which not
[58:18.280 --> 58:20.280] Okay
[58:20.280 --> 58:23.800] Hang on we'll pick this up on the other side. We're about to go to the top of the hour break
[58:23.800 --> 58:26.920] But uh, I definitely want to keep in touch with you
[58:28.040 --> 58:28.920] uh
[58:28.920 --> 58:33.000] From I think this is the most important issue we have in front of us today
[58:33.000 --> 58:35.720] If we can get the grand jury open
[58:37.080 --> 58:39.080] It will change
[58:39.140 --> 58:40.840] everything
[58:40.840 --> 58:47.000] These problems we're having the vast majority will go away. Hang on. We're into calton debor stevens root of la radio
[58:47.400 --> 58:49.400] We'll be right back
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[01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:51.880] 1415 protestant christian reformers john whincliffe and jan haas are condemned as heretics at the council of constants
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[01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:20.200] In recent news white house spokesman josh urnish said concerning president obama's first visit to flint michigan in response to the lead poisoning crisis
[01:01:20.200 --> 01:01:25.160] That has been happening there that quote this administration will continue to help mobilize the resources necessary
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[01:01:54.860 --> 01:01:56.140] Israel's justice minister
[01:01:56.140 --> 01:02:00.940] Ayelet shaked in an interview with the washington post stated today that quote in the past
[01:02:01.020 --> 01:02:05.420] We've seen european leaders speaking against the jews now. We see them speaking against israel
[01:02:05.740 --> 01:02:13.020] It is the same anti-semitism of blood libel spreading lies distorting reality and brainwashing people and hating israel and the jews
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[01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:34.860] They say that they're against israel in response to comments made in recent weeks by members of britain's labor party claiming that hillar was
[01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:41.020] A zionist and previous remarks by lawmakers that israel's population should be transported out of the middle east to america
[01:02:41.020 --> 01:02:47.580] Shaked stated that quote today. It is not politically correct to be anti-semitic, but being anti-israeli is acceptable
[01:02:47.740 --> 01:02:52.380] People who have such anti-semitic views should not be allowed to hold central leadership positions
[01:02:52.380 --> 01:03:10.220] This is rick roadie with your lowdown for may 4th 2016
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[01:03:28.060 --> 01:03:34.300] Okay, we are back ready to count deborah stevens rule of our radio and before we go back in samantha
[01:03:34.380 --> 01:03:36.620] I have a note from my call screener
[01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:40.380] He is in dallas and he wants to go to this
[01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:46.140] Uh meeting can you give the specifics on that meeting again?
[01:03:46.140 --> 01:03:53.420] Uh, which one the bob smiley? Oh, uh for the pj. Um, yeah, so
[01:03:54.940 --> 01:04:01.900] Bob smiley is going to have a booth at hide park in fort worth at 11 am. He's going to get there a little bit early
[01:04:02.460 --> 01:04:06.940] You'll see us. They'll say fully informed jury association right on the booth
[01:04:08.380 --> 01:04:10.700] Um, we're going to be at the booth
[01:04:10.700 --> 01:04:17.180] We're going to be at the booth hanging out information. Hold on. Hold on. You said 11 pm. Did you really mean 11 am?
[01:04:18.060 --> 01:04:20.060] Uh, sorry 11 am
[01:04:20.300 --> 01:04:22.300] Okay, 11 am to
[01:04:23.100 --> 01:04:26.860] The march ends at 4 20, but we'll probably be out there a little bit longer
[01:04:27.900 --> 01:04:29.260] um
[01:04:29.260 --> 01:04:33.500] so yeah, you'll see us we'll have fully informed jury on the booth and
[01:04:34.300 --> 01:04:37.020] Some of us will be in the march also walking around
[01:04:37.020 --> 01:04:44.540] So, okay where he has the booth does he have uh power
[01:04:46.620 --> 01:04:49.740] Because i'm going to come down and do some interviews
[01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:54.300] I'm not sure if he'll have power. Um
[01:04:55.500 --> 01:04:57.500] I could get back to you on that
[01:04:58.460 --> 01:05:01.020] The last event that we did we did not have power
[01:05:01.820 --> 01:05:03.820] Okay
[01:05:03.820 --> 01:05:11.260] Okay, i'll look at that if you're doing some more events that you want to get some coverage on
[01:05:12.300 --> 01:05:16.700] Let me know beforehand and if i'm able to I can come down and set up and
[01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:18.700] We can
[01:05:18.700 --> 01:05:20.700] pre-record some segments
[01:05:21.180 --> 01:05:23.180] To present on the show
[01:05:24.380 --> 01:05:26.380] Okay, that would be great. Um
[01:05:27.020 --> 01:05:32.700] I mean you can always go to the facebook page fully informed jury association. We'll be definitely posting on there
[01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:37.660] Um, if anybody wants to find more information or get in contact with bob smiley
[01:05:39.900 --> 01:05:45.740] Okay, fully informed jury association facebook page. Yes. Yes
[01:05:47.820 --> 01:05:49.820] Okay
[01:05:50.380 --> 01:05:53.820] I'm trying i'm back to grand juries. I'm
[01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:59.020] Since your husband is former of the grand jury. I'm treading very lightly here
[01:05:59.020 --> 01:06:04.060] Yeah, i'm old i'm always very careful about
[01:06:04.860 --> 01:06:08.220] putting someone in an untenable position
[01:06:09.660 --> 01:06:14.060] So I would I would never speak to your husband about this unless
[01:06:15.500 --> 01:06:17.500] He wanted to talk to me
[01:06:17.980 --> 01:06:22.380] Uh, i've always stood clear of talking to grand jury members directly
[01:06:23.180 --> 01:06:24.220] but
[01:06:24.220 --> 01:06:27.740] I've been researching rule of law years ago
[01:06:27.740 --> 01:06:31.580] and rule of law used to dust the name of the ship for
[01:06:34.860 --> 01:06:36.380] About years now
[01:06:36.380 --> 01:06:39.260] I started out spending the night in jail for driving with a headlight out
[01:06:40.220 --> 01:06:46.700] And that seemed right. So once I got out of jail, I got out the penal code and code of criminal procedure and I read them
[01:06:47.660 --> 01:06:53.660] And then I looked at the practice and I thought have I walked through the step through the looking glass
[01:06:53.660 --> 01:06:57.820] Yes, how could the practice be so
[01:06:58.520 --> 01:07:00.380] dramatically different
[01:07:00.380 --> 01:07:02.380] than the law
[01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.140] samantha
[01:07:04.140 --> 01:07:05.820] Do you know what?
[01:07:05.820 --> 01:07:12.000] The average conviction rate for all crimes across the border are in the state of texas
[01:07:14.060 --> 01:07:16.060] No
[01:07:16.380 --> 01:07:18.060] Guess
[01:07:18.060 --> 01:07:20.780] Most people guess about 75 80 percent
[01:07:20.780 --> 01:07:25.980] Yeah, it's ninety nine point six
[01:07:27.740 --> 01:07:29.740] It rounds up to a hundred
[01:07:31.660 --> 01:07:33.660] That's it's
[01:07:34.300 --> 01:07:40.380] This is the worst police state the world has ever seen and nobody even realizes
[01:07:41.980 --> 01:07:43.740] Yeah, the reason
[01:07:43.740 --> 01:07:46.060] The reason the conviction rate is so high
[01:07:46.700 --> 01:07:48.940] Is that every step is presently practiced?
[01:07:48.940 --> 01:07:50.940] In the criminal justice system
[01:07:51.740 --> 01:07:54.140] And the state of it's not wrong
[01:07:54.860 --> 01:08:01.020] It is very specifically against particular law and it's not just against law
[01:08:01.980 --> 01:08:05.340] It's against law for a very specific reason
[01:08:06.520 --> 01:08:12.960] prosecutors and judges through a series of seemingly minor adjustments toward judicative
[01:08:14.040 --> 01:08:16.620] expediency and administrative convenience
[01:08:16.620 --> 01:08:18.620] adjustments have
[01:08:18.700 --> 01:08:23.980] So adulterated the procedure that it no longer even resembles
[01:08:24.620 --> 01:08:27.020] What the code says and all of this has been done
[01:08:27.900 --> 01:08:30.700] to place a person accused of crime
[01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:37.660] I'm pushing so that they rational alternative but to take a deal when it's offered
[01:08:39.820 --> 01:08:41.820] And i'm trying to fix this
[01:08:41.820 --> 01:08:50.140] And that's also too why we need fully informed juries we can end the drug wars we can stop people from going into cages and
[01:08:50.460 --> 01:08:52.460] stop at prosecution
[01:08:52.700 --> 01:08:55.180] That is you are exactly right
[01:08:55.740 --> 01:09:01.580] But of all of the juries the one that's most critical is the grand jury
[01:09:02.780 --> 01:09:06.720] I walked in my district attorney's office. I i'm in wise county
[01:09:08.060 --> 01:09:10.460] And greg lowery is my district attorney
[01:09:10.460 --> 01:09:12.460] and
[01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:15.100] We're good friends and I trust him
[01:09:15.900 --> 01:09:20.620] He if ever was a prosecuting attorney who followed law, this is one of them
[01:09:21.740 --> 01:09:26.460] I went to see him one day and they sent me back to his office and he's sitting with his head in his hand
[01:09:26.460 --> 01:09:28.460] And I said greg, what's the matter?
[01:09:29.020 --> 01:09:30.140] Oh
[01:09:30.140 --> 01:09:32.460] Those darn grand jurors
[01:09:33.340 --> 01:09:37.340] You never know what they're gonna do and I thought
[01:09:37.340 --> 01:09:39.900] There is a god
[01:09:41.260 --> 01:09:43.980] I get people. Yeah, I get people coming on the show
[01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:46.860] Saying oh the
[01:09:46.860 --> 01:09:51.420] Prosecutor controls the grand jury. They do whatever he says and I tell him
[01:09:52.780 --> 01:09:54.780] He does no such thing
[01:09:56.060 --> 01:10:03.660] Tell me samatha. Do you believe that the prosecuting attorney could lead your husband around by the nose?
[01:10:03.660 --> 01:10:05.660] No, because he knows his rights
[01:10:06.860 --> 01:10:15.260] And yes people that don't they fall into it they yeah and and most of the people in the grand jury
[01:10:17.260 --> 01:10:21.900] Um, that that that is exactly why the grand jury is so important
[01:10:22.860 --> 01:10:24.860] Is people like your husband?
[01:10:25.980 --> 01:10:29.740] The problem is even if they think they've got a grand jury under control
[01:10:29.740 --> 01:10:34.220] They've got 12 grand jury members. Good luck on controlling all of those
[01:10:35.020 --> 01:10:38.140] I looked at the minutes of the grand jury in travis county
[01:10:39.100 --> 01:10:43.820] And every day when the grand jury gets done, they go in and read the minutes to the court
[01:10:44.940 --> 01:10:50.780] Every single set of minutes I looked at had at least one no bill
[01:10:51.500 --> 01:10:53.100] one of them had
[01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:55.340] six of twelve were no built
[01:10:55.340 --> 01:10:58.860] So this is not a rubber stamp grand jury
[01:10:59.580 --> 01:11:05.180] So when you're presented to a grand jury, you never know what they're going to do about five years ago
[01:11:05.180 --> 01:11:11.580] I got all of the highest judges in texas presented to a grand jury by ron earl terracat of district attorney at the time
[01:11:13.020 --> 01:11:20.140] Now I thought it was my elegant elegant oratory and all the pressure I had put on them
[01:11:20.140 --> 01:11:26.700] Turns out that had nothing to do with it ron earl was 25 year prosecuting attorney. He wasn't running for office again
[01:11:26.700 --> 01:11:28.700] He was democrat
[01:11:28.700 --> 01:11:30.700] all 15 of these judges were
[01:11:31.240 --> 01:11:32.540] republicans
[01:11:32.540 --> 01:11:39.580] He used my complaint as political cannon fodder and tried to take out his political opponents with him
[01:11:41.020 --> 01:11:43.340] And I think that is a wonderful thing
[01:11:44.460 --> 01:11:47.040] They didn't get indicted and that was kind of a
[01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:50.320] Thing they didn't get indicted and that was good
[01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:55.520] But they had to sit for three months wondering if their career was going to end tomorrow
[01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.920] Yeah, the issue I could yeah the issue I complained about
[01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.040] That does not happen in texas anymore
[01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.840] It's too long to go into it's a real technical
[01:12:06.700 --> 01:12:08.560] piddling
[01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.560] minor complaint
[01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:18.400] Uh, uh, they looked at his career. I just followed it filed first degree felony aggravated assault charges against my district judge
[01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.720] Because he had a bailiff touch me
[01:12:22.320 --> 01:12:24.320] Oh, wow, then you wanna
[01:12:24.320 --> 01:12:28.320] You want to play hardball bubba? I'll introduce you to the deep end of the pool
[01:12:29.200 --> 01:12:30.480] now
[01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:33.120] I gave these complaints to the grand jury
[01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.080] And then I went to greg and I said greg
[01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:41.200] I think I have made my best argument for indictment. That was my job
[01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:48.480] Now I expect you to get you behind in there and make darn well sure he doesn't get indicted
[01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:52.080] This is not my purpose to end this career
[01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:56.160] Yeah, it's my purpose to alter his behavior
[01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.120] Now he has to sit there all month
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.320] Until our grand jury meets once a month
[01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:06.480] Until the grand jury meets again to find out if his career is going to end
[01:13:08.160 --> 01:13:11.600] Yeah, that will more than serve my purpose
[01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:18.080] Our founders who created the grand jury system were wise indeed
[01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.320] Yeah, and this is my
[01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:29.520] Primary focus the grand jury is the most powerful check to the abuse of
[01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:34.960] To the abuse of official capacity that we have in this country
[01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:45.040] And your husband is probably in the most powerful position that exists in the state of texas at the moment
[01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:49.360] I know for the most part and
[01:13:50.240 --> 01:13:52.000] Go ahead
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:55.440] And and when he first came to the grand jury
[01:13:55.440 --> 01:14:01.520] And they made him a rubber stamp expecting him to use it they can speed up the process
[01:14:02.160 --> 01:14:05.760] And he never used it. He took it home. They wanted him to keep it there. I said
[01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:08.000] Take it home
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.280] Don't use it and everybody on the grand jury is like
[01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.400] Can we just indict them? We want to go home
[01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:20.000] uh blah blah blah and and it's sad he's the only one he gets singled out and
[01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:23.360] He's trying his best. He's doing a great job
[01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:26.320] um, a lot of people have been set free so
[01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:29.360] It's wonderful
[01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:36.080] I'm I am going to set him up. He will get one of my complaints because i'll make sure every grand jury does
[01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:41.760] and it's not that I want anyone indicted these
[01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:48.720] Jailers that drug me out of the courthouse and smash my face in the concrete and not jailers
[01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:54.160] Uh guards at the courthouse there at the metal detector the third time I called 9-1-1 on them
[01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:57.680] I don't want them indicted
[01:14:58.320 --> 01:15:00.640] Yeah, but I do but I do want them presented
[01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:03.120] Yeah
[01:15:03.120 --> 01:15:06.080] I do want them to have to stand and answer
[01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:09.440] And wonder if the grand jury is going to end their career
[01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.540] That will end this nonsense
[01:15:13.540 --> 01:15:20.420] Hey, I will be in this next legislature lobbying for
[01:15:23.060 --> 01:15:27.380] I quoted 20.09 that stated the duties of the grand jury
[01:15:28.820 --> 01:15:30.820] Well in addition to 20.09
[01:15:32.100 --> 01:15:38.100] That will require the grand jury to sit at least once a month for the purpose of hearing complaints by private citizens
[01:15:38.100 --> 01:15:43.060] Now grand juries used to do that in texas when I first came here
[01:15:43.700 --> 01:15:46.740] But they said nobody ever showed up so they quit doing it
[01:15:47.780 --> 01:15:49.540] And i'm saying guys
[01:15:49.540 --> 01:15:51.540] That means it was working
[01:15:52.420 --> 01:15:54.420] Yeah, there was no need to show up
[01:15:55.060 --> 01:15:57.060] Yeah
[01:15:57.780 --> 01:15:59.780] Amazing I would
[01:15:59.860 --> 01:16:02.420] I would very much like to talk to you
[01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:10.500] It is time malciere and I will be bringing some complaints and uh, if we actually
[01:16:12.900 --> 01:16:18.180] The grand jury that thinks it's not a prosecutor this will terrify these guys
[01:16:20.020 --> 01:16:22.740] And the main thing i'm going to want to find out
[01:16:23.460 --> 01:16:28.500] The only thing I would ask of your husband is did he see the complaint?
[01:16:28.500 --> 01:16:34.340] I guess if he didn't okay, then I can handle the rest
[01:16:35.460 --> 01:16:39.780] Hang on we have this straight. There's a you know, take austin
[01:16:40.580 --> 01:16:43.220] There's a phrase in austin keep austin weird
[01:16:44.100 --> 01:16:46.660] Well, that was coined after a woman
[01:16:47.700 --> 01:16:50.340] Her name is mary crinnick. Are you familiar with mary crinnick?
[01:16:51.540 --> 01:16:53.540] Yes, I am
[01:16:53.540 --> 01:16:58.820] Oh, she is on the line. We will bring her on soon as we come back. Hang on miss mary
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[01:19:14.980 --> 01:19:16.980] Ain't gonna blame me
[01:19:20.580 --> 01:19:22.580] Don't blame me
[01:19:22.580 --> 01:19:24.580] Oh
[01:19:33.620 --> 01:19:40.420] Okay, we are back randy kelton george stevens and rudal radio we're talking to samantha in texas
[01:19:40.420 --> 01:19:52.020] And we're bringing on the austin wild woman miss mary crinnick. Hello mary
[01:19:54.020 --> 01:20:00.900] Okay, mary do you plan on being in dallas on the 10th is it the 10th
[01:20:00.900 --> 01:20:09.380] Yes, what day is okay, what day is the bob smiley again 7th of may
[01:20:13.140 --> 01:20:18.580] Yes, and two days oh that's two days that's this saturday. Oh, okay
[01:20:19.860 --> 01:20:23.620] Then everybody we don't have much time to prepare get the electrical
[01:20:24.580 --> 01:20:26.580] Oh, thank you for asking
[01:20:26.580 --> 01:20:31.620] Awesome. Okay. I'll try to me. I'll make it a point to be down there
[01:20:33.700 --> 01:20:39.060] And i've samantha i've tried to be careful since your your husband's a foreman of the grand jury
[01:20:39.780 --> 01:20:45.060] Um, i'm always real careful about compromising anyone
[01:20:46.260 --> 01:20:50.020] And yeah, I never ask I never ask favors
[01:20:50.020 --> 01:20:58.260] Uh, and then there's a it's not that i'm so terribly ethical, but if if we're going to fix the system
[01:20:58.980 --> 01:21:01.540] We have to fix it without leverage
[01:21:03.140 --> 01:21:04.740] Yeah, we have
[01:21:04.740 --> 01:21:08.900] We have to be able to create our own leverage and i've been doing that
[01:21:09.860 --> 01:21:12.500] Getting quite a leverage in fort worth
[01:21:13.140 --> 01:21:16.020] uh, they're getting pretty leery of me and
[01:21:16.020 --> 01:21:21.220] And because we've allowed them to make their own mistakes and fit them back
[01:21:22.500 --> 01:21:27.860] But it does I am thrilled to hear that we have some fingers on the grand jury
[01:21:29.460 --> 01:21:30.660] Yes
[01:21:30.660 --> 01:21:34.100] Definitely, right? You got to be real careful what you say. I know that
[01:21:35.140 --> 01:21:38.260] It's hard because you just want to you want to tell them what's going on
[01:21:38.260 --> 01:21:45.300] But yes, yeah, yeah, and i've been i've tried to be careful with you not to ask you anything that would
[01:21:47.060 --> 01:21:53.860] Compromise you because of your association association with him. So i'm i'm trying to be real careful here
[01:21:55.460 --> 01:21:58.740] If we do this right now i've been doing this a long time and and mary she
[01:21:59.220 --> 01:22:03.860] Mary and I just just spoke on this issue last sunday. I was at austin
[01:22:04.580 --> 01:22:06.020] that
[01:22:06.020 --> 01:22:11.540] The grand jury is the most powerful weapon the ordinary citizen has
[01:22:14.420 --> 01:22:17.460] Toward preventing official abuse
[01:22:19.220 --> 01:22:21.620] There is a case kennedy state
[01:22:22.580 --> 01:22:25.300] But in that case the court ruled
[01:22:26.980 --> 01:22:33.460] In order to avoid the obvious evils of the accumulation of power in any one office
[01:22:33.460 --> 01:22:40.180] For the purpose of filing a criminal accusation a prosecuting attorney is not a credible person
[01:22:42.340 --> 01:22:46.260] And it goes on to speak about the zeal in
[01:22:47.360 --> 01:22:51.940] prosecuting crime is not necessarily a guard against
[01:22:52.660 --> 01:22:54.660] abuse or
[01:22:55.040 --> 01:22:57.040] over-exuberance
[01:22:57.040 --> 01:23:03.920] And the legislature placed the grand jury in between the prosecutor
[01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.640] and the court
[01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:09.440] For a very specific reason
[01:23:11.120 --> 01:23:13.920] Not so not so much to
[01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:23.700] Hear complaints about by private citizens, i'm i'm sorry about against private citizens, but primarily
[01:23:23.700 --> 01:23:32.660] To prevent the prosecutor the prosecutor from deciding who he wants to prosecute and who he doesn't
[01:23:34.260 --> 01:23:39.700] Now he's gotten some of that back a little bit illegally
[01:23:42.020 --> 01:23:45.300] There's nothing that gives a prosecuting attorney any discretion at all
[01:23:45.300 --> 01:23:52.260] He's required that constitution actually requires misdemeanors and felonies all to go to a grand jury
[01:23:53.860 --> 01:24:00.260] And the grand jury sorts out who gets prosecuted who doesn't but they pass laws that
[01:24:00.980 --> 01:24:07.780] Allow misdemeanors to be handled within a grand jury and i'm not going to take that argument up at the moment
[01:24:08.500 --> 01:24:10.980] But for felonies for infamous crimes
[01:24:10.980 --> 01:24:19.220] The legislature absolutely insisted that grand jurors make that determination and this keeps the system in check
[01:24:20.020 --> 01:24:22.020] especially
[01:24:23.140 --> 01:24:25.140] 0.03
[01:24:26.260 --> 01:24:30.740] 2.01 says it shall be the primary duty of the prosecuting attorney not to secure conviction
[01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:36.420] But to ensure that justice is served it shall not seek witnesses or evidence that will show the
[01:24:36.420 --> 01:24:43.140] Innocence of the accused to mitigate the guilt of the accused so that's a paraphrase
[01:24:44.100 --> 01:24:48.660] Well, that's nice hymen rhetoric, but it really doesn't tell him to do anything specifically
[01:24:49.620 --> 01:24:50.980] 202
[01:24:50.980 --> 01:24:52.980] tells prosecutors the county
[01:24:53.620 --> 01:24:57.060] Attorney will handle this stuff the district attorney will handle this stuff
[01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.700] 2.03 the very first one
[01:25:01.700 --> 01:25:09.620] Says that when a prosecuting attorney is made known in any manner that a public official has violated a law relating to his office
[01:25:09.940 --> 01:25:12.820] He shall reduce complaint and information submitted to the grand
[01:25:16.180 --> 01:25:18.180] Zero
[01:25:18.500 --> 01:25:24.740] They just got rid of the public integrity unit for the attorney's office that was illegal
[01:25:24.740 --> 01:25:31.060] Well district attorney had no power to investigate crimes by public officials. That was a grand jury's business
[01:25:32.100 --> 01:25:33.780] and yeah
[01:25:33.780 --> 01:25:36.900] I filed against my I filed against my district judge
[01:25:37.620 --> 01:25:39.220] but only
[01:25:39.220 --> 01:25:43.140] So that I could file a complaint with the texas ranger
[01:25:45.780 --> 01:25:53.780] Because they removed the public integrity unit from the district from the district attorney's office and moved it to the texas rangers
[01:25:53.780 --> 01:25:55.780] problem
[01:25:56.660 --> 01:26:05.800] Prior to this time a texas ranger could investigate a public official but only with written permission of the director of department of public safety
[01:26:07.540 --> 01:26:12.500] So the legislature moved the public integrity unit to the texas rangers and
[01:26:13.200 --> 01:26:16.020] Directed the department to develop protocols
[01:26:16.020 --> 01:26:24.580] Their protocol included requiring their ranger to ask permission to investigate an official from the district attorney
[01:26:25.700 --> 01:26:27.700] Say what?
[01:26:28.180 --> 01:26:31.000] The district attorney is forbidden
[01:26:32.500 --> 01:26:37.940] To intercede in any way. I consider that an act of criminal conspiracy to commit
[01:26:39.460 --> 01:26:41.460] Commit an official
[01:26:42.020 --> 01:26:44.020] criminal violation
[01:26:44.020 --> 01:26:49.140] 103 penal code and I told this to the ranger I was giving him these complaints and he said well
[01:26:49.140 --> 01:26:52.500] He's going to have to file a protocol and I told him I understand that
[01:26:53.220 --> 01:26:56.020] But in order for me to get standing to raise this issue
[01:26:56.740 --> 01:27:02.100] I have to bring a controversy to the court the controversy i'm going to bring is official oppression
[01:27:03.380 --> 01:27:04.820] and
[01:27:04.820 --> 01:27:06.180] felony
[01:27:06.180 --> 01:27:08.180] Conspiracy to commit against you
[01:27:08.180 --> 01:27:14.020] And then that gives me standing to raise the issue and I filed against him
[01:27:14.580 --> 01:27:18.580] for not investigating into my accusation against
[01:27:19.780 --> 01:27:21.780] Judge Faustel and
[01:27:23.380 --> 01:27:28.180] Sending it so now every ranger in texas knows what i've done to this ranger
[01:27:28.660 --> 01:27:33.700] And this is a good ranger to do it because he was an excellent police officer
[01:27:34.580 --> 01:27:36.420] very professional
[01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:38.500] Very very business-like I like this guy
[01:27:39.700 --> 01:27:43.960] So and if I like him everybody else is going to like him and consider him to be professional
[01:27:45.460 --> 01:27:51.220] And this gives him plausible deniability along with all the other rangers. They're going to go to the
[01:27:53.380 --> 01:27:55.380] Director and say what?
[01:27:55.460 --> 01:27:58.900] I follow your protocols and I get sent to the grand jury
[01:28:00.100 --> 01:28:02.340] My purpose
[01:28:02.340 --> 01:28:05.060] Is to give texas rangers
[01:28:05.060 --> 01:28:10.200] A free rein to do their job without any political oversight
[01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:13.720] That's what the legislature intended
[01:28:15.160 --> 01:28:19.560] The politicians are trying to get that control back and we're trying to keep it from them
[01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.160] And my most powerful tool is that grand jury
[01:28:25.240 --> 01:28:28.360] Then you understand samantha why I don't want him indicted
[01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.640] Yes, I do
[01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:33.640] So
[01:28:34.200 --> 01:28:36.360] I'm looking forward to filing some
[01:28:37.480 --> 01:28:42.360] I will i'm not going to file the district against judge mcbride yet
[01:28:44.120 --> 01:28:49.800] Judge mcbride is a federal judge. He's 89 years old and he has no business on the bench, but
[01:28:51.400 --> 01:28:57.960] I'm not going to put this one in front of your husband. I will do this one later right now
[01:28:57.960 --> 01:29:01.160] Uh, I want to sting the
[01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:03.560] uh
[01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:08.440] District attorney from dallas county primarily what I want to establish
[01:29:09.160 --> 01:29:14.840] Is that I want to expand the authority of the grand jury so there's no question
[01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:19.960] That the grand jury can hear any complaint from anywhere in the state
[01:29:21.080 --> 01:29:23.080] So that's my purpose here now
[01:29:24.280 --> 01:29:26.280] So if I like this
[01:29:26.280 --> 01:29:28.280] Uh real soon
[01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:34.200] Okay, when I come back mary, uh, i'd like to pick you up hang on if you will samantha
[01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:37.880] Okay, okay
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[01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:54.360] We are back randy kelton deborah stevens reel of our radio and we're talking to samantha and mary both in texas
[01:33:54.360 --> 01:34:02.520] Uh, i'm not going to talk about grain jury anymore. I kind of hijacked you samantha because that is sort of my favorite subject
[01:34:03.320 --> 01:34:05.640] But I would like to talk about
[01:34:06.360 --> 01:34:08.360] informed juries
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:14.680] Kind of tell us
[01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:20.920] Your position on informed juries, you know, I have opinions on that i'm trying to not to put mine in
[01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.720] and uh, it's my opinion that uh,
[01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:26.520] Thomas jefferson was right
[01:34:27.160 --> 01:34:33.240] When he said that it is the place of the grand jury to rule on the facts and the law
[01:34:34.360 --> 01:34:40.280] He said that a a jury is the ultimate check to the balance of
[01:34:42.440 --> 01:34:48.120] If it's great if a jury refuses to enforce the law the legislators will have to change it
[01:34:48.120 --> 01:34:50.120] So right
[01:34:50.360 --> 01:34:54.520] Tell me about how you're going about doing
[01:34:55.320 --> 01:34:57.320] jury
[01:34:57.480 --> 01:34:59.480] Creating informed juries
[01:35:01.080 --> 01:35:07.080] Well, um, first we want people to be educated about the constitution
[01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:09.800] And you know their rights
[01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.880] but also
[01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:16.760] Um about victimless crime if there's no victim. There's no crime
[01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:18.600] There's no crime
[01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:22.440] Why are we sending people to prison when there's no victim?
[01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.560] um
[01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.640] And uh, I mean basically that's it
[01:35:31.080 --> 01:35:35.480] Well in the texas penal code it's in chapter one
[01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:44.760] It says that when a provision of this code is violated the state is the injured party
[01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.000] So, I know I hear this
[01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:49.960] Who's the injured party?
[01:35:50.360 --> 01:35:52.360] And that is in law
[01:35:53.240 --> 01:35:56.840] In your opinion, do we need to repeal that statute?
[01:35:58.040 --> 01:36:00.040] Yeah
[01:36:00.440 --> 01:36:02.440] Exactly and
[01:36:03.080 --> 01:36:07.800] Uh, people need to get informed informed about what the state is doing because
[01:36:08.440 --> 01:36:09.880] it is
[01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:11.880] really corrupt and
[01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:15.320] Really corrupt and so that's another thing
[01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:17.960] so
[01:36:19.160 --> 01:36:21.080] It's in my
[01:36:21.080 --> 01:36:23.160] Mary what's your take on this?
[01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:26.600] I'm fully informed jury. Um
[01:36:27.240 --> 01:36:29.240] I guess the state being a bit
[01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:34.440] Hold on mary you're getting a lot of distortion. Can you move the mic down to your
[01:36:35.160 --> 01:36:37.160] Chin to spell it out? Maybe that'll help
[01:36:39.080 --> 01:36:41.080] Is that better?
[01:36:41.080 --> 01:36:43.880] No, we may have a to try back in it
[01:36:45.080 --> 01:36:47.480] Let me just have a bad convention. How's this?
[01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:51.240] That's a little better. Go ahead. Okay
[01:36:52.760 --> 01:37:00.360] Well fully informed jury, I don't know what exactly hold on hold on mary will you hang up and call right back in?
[01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:05.400] All right, maybe we'll get a better connection. You're getting a tremendous amount of distortion
[01:37:06.120 --> 01:37:07.640] Okay
[01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:13.720] You know devra, she won't be happy if we got this story. Yeah, just hang up call right back in i'll put you
[01:37:17.320 --> 01:37:19.320] Yeah
[01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:21.080] I
[01:37:21.080 --> 01:37:23.000] live in a small
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:25.000] county north of fort worth
[01:37:25.240 --> 01:37:29.240] And uh, I have never been called to a jury
[01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:34.840] Mary you still there
[01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:41.000] Okay, she just didn't drop off that she was okay that she she saw I'm looking at the call screen so
[01:37:42.280 --> 01:37:45.320] I've never been called for a jury and I would love to be on a jury
[01:37:46.040 --> 01:37:49.080] My son has the same name as me
[01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.800] And he's been called several
[01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.240] Times my wife has been called. They'll never call me
[01:37:57.160 --> 01:38:00.840] I suspect even if they called me they wouldn't bring me all out
[01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:03.640] And I don't understand why
[01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:05.640] I mean, yeah
[01:38:06.200 --> 01:38:10.380] I've filed about a hundred criminal complaints against public officials
[01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:15.000] Uh, I don't know why they would be prejudice against me
[01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:20.600] But yes, I would very much like to be on a jury and it is difficult. My wife was on a jury and it
[01:38:21.240 --> 01:38:23.240] It just broke her heart
[01:38:24.360 --> 01:38:25.800] It was uh
[01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.360] A girl that was very badly injured in iraq
[01:38:30.040 --> 01:38:32.040] And they had to rule against her
[01:38:32.040 --> 01:38:36.600] Uh, and it just it just broke her heart. She said
[01:38:37.720 --> 01:38:43.880] She doesn't ever want to have to do that again. So being on a jury is difficult enough
[01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:46.660] without
[01:38:46.660 --> 01:38:48.660] Prosecutors and judges lying to you
[01:38:51.480 --> 01:38:53.480] Okay here we got mary back
[01:38:56.360 --> 01:38:59.560] Okay, mary you're back hi, can you hear me
[01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:01.560] Yes, much better
[01:39:01.880 --> 01:39:04.040] Okay, great. I have to change the headpiece
[01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:10.360] Um, my knowledge is that boogie farm jury is a very helpful association. Um
[01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:18.760] If the state is a victim then I guess the corporation's a person i'm not sure where they're going with that
[01:39:19.400 --> 01:39:23.240] Um, and the state can claim to be a victim on a number of things
[01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:25.160] real easy
[01:39:25.160 --> 01:39:31.240] So like parallel governments all of a sudden make those groups juristic etc
[01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:34.760] It almost looks like the state has the hardest hold
[01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:37.960] on victimhood
[01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:44.760] Because anything that looks like it's competitive government they can claim as being offensive to them
[01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:49.640] Yeah
[01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:54.840] So, how do we what do we want to teach the jury?
[01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:05.560] Well, samantha would need to answer that or bob smiley and bob smiley texted me said he's going to see if he can get
[01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:11.400] Electrical outlet for you on saturday, and he texted me that he wants people to go to his facebook page
[01:40:12.200 --> 01:40:13.240] um
[01:40:13.240 --> 01:40:15.000] bob
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.080] uh s m i
[01:40:17.080 --> 01:40:19.880] l i e
[01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:21.880] Okay, tell you what
[01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:23.160] mary
[01:40:23.160 --> 01:40:24.200] if uh
[01:40:24.200 --> 01:40:31.880] You will text him back and ask him if he would like to come on the show tomorrow and be a guest on the show
[01:40:33.240 --> 01:40:35.240] Yeah, that might be the best
[01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:37.240] What do you think samantha?
[01:40:37.240 --> 01:40:47.640] Yeah, he should definitely get on the show like i'm i'm still new to this and i'm still learning myself about all this
[01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:51.640] Yeah, and samantha I didn't mean to put you on the spot on the air
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000] Oh, no, it's okay
[01:40:55.480 --> 01:40:58.440] Yeah, you wanted to talk about that for sure
[01:40:59.080 --> 01:41:00.680] uh, yeah
[01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:08.680] About the dallas uh floor ice free movement in general if dallas is not a home rule city like san marcus in austin
[01:41:09.080 --> 01:41:15.160] And by the way, kathleen o'connell forms communities for sliding water and funded
[01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:18.120] The petition process for the home rule
[01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:25.560] Changes in their charter in san marcus catherine albright has come to san marcus and helped us with
[01:41:26.280 --> 01:41:28.280] Our fids pet chip
[01:41:28.280 --> 01:41:33.640] Uh putting chips in the pet so we do have to give a shout out to kathleen o'connell
[01:41:34.280 --> 01:41:37.000] um in san marcus and her friends
[01:41:38.440 --> 01:41:39.800] Didn't didn't
[01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:44.360] Didn't kathleen albright go do a show from san marcos in support of this
[01:41:45.240 --> 01:41:51.800] It was for the shipping of pets and she gave a very good rally. Oh, that's right
[01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:57.720] Uh, it's okay. I'm sorry present to city hall. She is uh professional at that
[01:41:58.280 --> 01:42:01.720] And she did a lot of work in san marcus for uh shipping
[01:42:02.280 --> 01:42:06.120] Of children, but it was like on their uh tag that they wore
[01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:10.360] And things like that heather fazio had worked with them and we've gone down there
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:14.040] um, so katherine is primarily with the
[01:42:14.040 --> 01:42:21.260] The uh smartphones and tracking devices and the way they google stores your cookies and all this stuff. I don't understand
[01:42:21.740 --> 01:42:23.420] so, um
[01:42:23.420 --> 01:42:28.460] Kathleen o'connell is the one that um supported the victory and charged it
[01:42:29.020 --> 01:42:30.460] she um
[01:42:30.460 --> 01:42:34.780] Is a feng shui artist and very very beautiful
[01:42:35.660 --> 01:42:36.700] loving
[01:42:36.700 --> 01:42:38.700] And brave woman kathleen o'connell
[01:42:38.700 --> 01:42:43.660] I'm wondering why we've never had her on the show
[01:42:44.700 --> 01:42:48.620] You know, she is exhausted right now and has to focus back on work
[01:42:48.940 --> 01:42:54.700] You know when we come together to do work together to show awareness to support each other
[01:42:55.660 --> 01:42:57.660] That's what's going to help us do
[01:42:57.900 --> 01:42:58.780] this
[01:42:58.780 --> 01:43:00.780] Hard hard stuff
[01:43:00.860 --> 01:43:05.580] You know and a lot of people when they when they join and they take some leadership they get pretty burnt out
[01:43:05.580 --> 01:43:08.780] So i'm very well aware of that
[01:43:09.420 --> 01:43:12.220] He has to focus back on work and you know
[01:43:12.300 --> 01:43:19.660] There's a lot of ways to have events to do lectures to do books and to do ways to do what we love and make money
[01:43:20.140 --> 01:43:22.700] They are out there and we're going to start doing this thing
[01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:32.060] Wonderful well if she decides she wants to come on the show, I will certainly make room for her
[01:43:32.060 --> 01:43:34.940] Um, thank you
[01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:38.620] Okay
[01:43:38.620 --> 01:43:40.460] samantha is
[01:43:40.460 --> 01:43:42.620] That about it. Do you have something else for us?
[01:43:44.300 --> 01:43:48.940] No, um, we will keep in touch with dito. Uh, thank you so much
[01:43:50.060 --> 01:43:52.060] Okay, and uh
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[01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.720] We're talking to mary in texas mary. I kind of bushwhacked you there
[01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:41.520] I never let you get to the reason
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:43.840] You called in
[01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:47.220] No, no, I was just going to talk about grand juries. So you answered everything
[01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:56.180] We're going to keep talking about grand juries though, but you answered everything and I just I thought you were the only cool person in dallas
[01:46:56.180 --> 01:47:00.420] You know because I went up there to see you and I heard regina. I'm bringing
[01:47:00.420 --> 01:47:06.580] I was doing that fluoride free action thing at city hall dallas and I met all these cool people
[01:47:07.380 --> 01:47:11.140] Really nice people really smart people really honest people
[01:47:12.260 --> 01:47:14.260] There's a lot of cool people. This is tech
[01:47:15.140 --> 01:47:18.260] This is texas. There's cool people everywhere here
[01:47:19.380 --> 01:47:24.500] Well, listen, I went back to you for another five hours, but I don't know if you got some people on hold
[01:47:24.500 --> 01:47:26.500] And I know what that's like
[01:47:26.980 --> 01:47:28.740] No, we
[01:47:28.740 --> 01:47:30.740] We don't have any more callers. So
[01:47:31.140 --> 01:47:32.420] uh
[01:47:32.420 --> 01:47:33.700] I went to
[01:47:33.700 --> 01:47:35.700] michael bennerich's
[01:47:35.940 --> 01:47:37.940] return to texas party
[01:47:38.580 --> 01:47:40.580] That's right. Yeah
[01:47:40.980 --> 01:47:46.580] Michael bennerich is from indiana and he had to go home and spend about four years taking care of his parents
[01:47:47.220 --> 01:47:51.700] And his mother finally passed away and the father went to live with a brother
[01:47:51.700 --> 01:47:57.940] Here and michael michael came back to texas and he said when he got off of the airplane
[01:47:58.660 --> 01:48:01.700] In austin, he looked around and just cried
[01:48:02.980 --> 01:48:04.980] Oh, how sweet because
[01:48:05.380 --> 01:48:07.700] So glad to be back in texas
[01:48:09.300 --> 01:48:13.460] And i've traveled all over the place all over the world doing seminars and
[01:48:14.500 --> 01:48:16.500] i'm always
[01:48:16.500 --> 01:48:20.500] Thrilled to get back to texas. It is my favorite place on earth
[01:48:20.500 --> 01:48:23.700] at austin that's my favorite place in texas
[01:48:24.580 --> 01:48:27.060] but uh texas is just
[01:48:28.100 --> 01:48:31.620] A different place and people are different here and I love texas
[01:48:32.660 --> 01:48:36.020] And mary and I just went to eor's birthday in austin
[01:48:37.620 --> 01:48:39.620] And eor is the
[01:48:40.980 --> 01:48:43.060] Depressed donkey from winnie the pooh
[01:48:43.620 --> 01:48:47.460] And only in austin would they celebrate his birthday every year
[01:48:48.180 --> 01:48:49.620] and
[01:48:49.620 --> 01:48:54.680] And the party was absolutely insane
[01:48:56.660 --> 01:48:58.660] And deborah was there
[01:48:59.540 --> 01:49:02.020] Deborah deborah danced at the drum circle
[01:49:03.220 --> 01:49:05.220] jerry her husband was there drumming
[01:49:06.820 --> 01:49:08.820] He is our producer tonight
[01:49:09.220 --> 01:49:14.820] And it was only in texas. This is I know this is unique to austin but
[01:49:14.820 --> 01:49:21.860] But of all the places i've been i'd like texas the most and it's not that I dislike other places
[01:49:23.140 --> 01:49:25.220] it's just that uh
[01:49:25.220 --> 01:49:31.300] It may be that texas is still the one place in the country that's closest to the old west
[01:49:32.660 --> 01:49:39.220] And that sounds like i'm disparaging Arizona, nevada and because I haven't been there so I can't speak to them very much
[01:49:39.860 --> 01:49:41.860] I do like texas
[01:49:41.860 --> 01:49:43.860] And
[01:49:44.260 --> 01:49:45.220] Hey
[01:49:45.220 --> 01:49:51.540] Let's um, let's organize you coming down on some saturday within the next month or two
[01:49:52.100 --> 01:49:56.900] And doing a lecture and we're going to ask that people don't you know 25
[01:49:57.380 --> 01:49:58.740] 12 bucks
[01:49:58.740 --> 01:50:00.660] Can we do that?
[01:50:00.660 --> 01:50:07.060] I can do that. I will be down in another week. A friend of mine is graduating from uh,
[01:50:07.060 --> 01:50:11.540] Uh a paralegal course and he's going to have a party and i'm going to come down
[01:50:12.340 --> 01:50:16.420] Uh have some business in st. Marcos. So next week I should be down next
[01:50:17.220 --> 01:50:22.840] Not this coming weekend, but the next weekend. I should be back down there and I would be glad to do a presentation
[01:50:23.780 --> 01:50:28.820] At break do books. I supposed to do it last time I was there and I didn't realize it started at two in the afternoon
[01:50:29.780 --> 01:50:34.500] Now i'm going to do an all-day thing with you like saturday from
[01:50:34.500 --> 01:50:39.940] Um 10 till 5 blah bitty blah, you know 20 25 dollar donation
[01:50:40.580 --> 01:50:42.740] Take registrants get it packed
[01:50:43.860 --> 01:50:47.060] Give people we can put it on we can certainly do that. I I
[01:50:47.860 --> 01:50:52.420] I can do a presentation on due process. I would like to do that
[01:50:53.060 --> 01:50:56.180] due process and grand juries and how to use
[01:50:57.540 --> 01:51:00.740] The power that the pro se has
[01:51:00.740 --> 01:51:05.140] You are a incredibly powerful influence
[01:51:06.580 --> 01:51:10.980] For the most part, we don't know it and I would very much like to do a presentation on that
[01:51:11.940 --> 01:51:14.260] I've been doing this show for a long time
[01:51:15.060 --> 01:51:17.060] And i've had time to
[01:51:17.620 --> 01:51:19.620] work through these
[01:51:20.580 --> 01:51:23.140] And go over the issues and and then
[01:51:23.860 --> 01:51:29.540] Uh, i'm not one of these people that talk about what to do. I tend to go over the issues
[01:51:29.540 --> 01:51:33.700] I tend to go out and do what I talk about
[01:51:34.580 --> 01:51:37.380] Sometimes a little more enthusiastically than I should
[01:51:39.380 --> 01:51:44.340] Three dislocated ribs two broken collarbones a broken elbow and a tooth knocked out
[01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:47.400] But i'm getting older and i'm not quite so exuberant
[01:51:48.100 --> 01:51:48.900] but
[01:51:48.900 --> 01:51:52.580] In doing all of this. I have found out a lot of things that work
[01:51:53.460 --> 01:51:54.740] well
[01:51:54.740 --> 01:51:56.740] And a lot of things that don't work
[01:51:56.740 --> 01:52:02.980] And direct physical confrontation is one of the things that does not work. Well, because it plays into their hands
[01:52:04.340 --> 01:52:06.340] Right coming
[01:52:06.420 --> 01:52:09.220] Coming in as the master of the servant
[01:52:10.980 --> 01:52:12.980] That works very well
[01:52:15.380 --> 01:52:17.780] Once you understand and can
[01:52:18.500 --> 01:52:20.660] Can formulate the concept?
[01:52:21.620 --> 01:52:23.620] of master and servant
[01:52:23.620 --> 01:52:27.860] It changes everything we have a call screener here scott
[01:52:28.980 --> 01:52:30.980] And he he got it
[01:52:31.700 --> 01:52:37.860] He went into court and a traffic court and brought up the traffic issue and the judge shouted him down
[01:52:39.300 --> 01:52:43.940] Well, he filed official oppression charges against the judge with the grand jury for shouting him down
[01:52:44.900 --> 01:52:46.740] perfect
[01:52:46.740 --> 01:52:49.220] You are my public servant. It is your
[01:52:49.220 --> 01:52:56.500] Your duty to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of the evidence and apply those comes to you the facts in the case
[01:52:57.300 --> 01:53:03.060] If you have some other agenda if you have a personal opinion you better leave that at the house
[01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:06.180] because if you don't
[01:53:06.260 --> 01:53:07.780] be
[01:53:07.780 --> 01:53:10.820] Citizen is likely to sting you good and
[01:53:11.860 --> 01:53:15.780] those who've been listening to the program a long time know that I have a
[01:53:15.780 --> 01:53:20.100] A very clearly articulated
[01:53:20.980 --> 01:53:22.980] intended ultimate outcome
[01:53:24.900 --> 01:53:27.460] It is and always has been my purpose
[01:53:28.340 --> 01:53:31.940] To place every judge in the country in a position such that
[01:53:32.740 --> 01:53:37.380] When he steps up behind the bench and looks out across the bar at the gallery
[01:53:38.100 --> 01:53:40.100] I want him wondering which one
[01:53:40.100 --> 01:53:45.700] Which one of those scoundrels out there I sit and waiting for me to render a ruling he doesn't like
[01:53:45.940 --> 01:53:48.580] So he can run down to a grand jury and try to get me indicted
[01:53:50.260 --> 01:53:55.000] Perfect now. Yeah, I catch a lot of heat because I don't want anybody indicted
[01:53:56.820 --> 01:54:00.740] But then again, I don't want them violating my law either
[01:54:03.220 --> 01:54:06.420] I didn't want my district judge to threaten to have me arrested
[01:54:08.020 --> 01:54:09.860] Because I
[01:54:09.860 --> 01:54:13.860] Required that he provide me access to one of my rights
[01:54:15.300 --> 01:54:23.700] I didn't want him to have his bailiff put his hand on harm while his plate bailiff was prominently displaying a deadly weapon
[01:54:24.580 --> 01:54:26.580] But they did that
[01:54:26.900 --> 01:54:30.420] And having knowledge that a felony has been committed
[01:54:31.460 --> 01:54:35.700] If I failed to report that felony I could be prosecuted
[01:54:36.980 --> 01:54:38.980] Right, so hey
[01:54:38.980 --> 01:54:40.980] Hey kill the messenger
[01:54:44.900 --> 01:54:51.140] And I do not want my district judge indicted but if the grand jury finds probable cause
[01:54:52.580 --> 01:54:54.500] Then
[01:54:54.500 --> 01:54:56.500] I didn't make that bet he did
[01:54:58.180 --> 01:55:00.180] I didn't take make the decision
[01:55:01.380 --> 01:55:05.380] To commit the act he did and this is one of the things I tell betas
[01:55:06.500 --> 01:55:07.220] it's
[01:55:07.220 --> 01:55:12.420] It's quite frequent that I ask a bailiff to arrest a judge in a court
[01:55:13.700 --> 01:55:15.700] I've done this a number of times
[01:55:15.780 --> 01:55:17.780] and not one time
[01:55:18.580 --> 01:55:22.660] Has the judge said a word while i'm trying to get the bailiff to arrest it
[01:55:23.780 --> 01:55:26.820] Well, I've seen things before the judge knows
[01:55:28.580 --> 01:55:30.580] One word out of him
[01:55:30.580 --> 01:55:32.420] witness tampering obstruction
[01:55:32.420 --> 01:55:37.380] So let his sister and be quiet and the bailiff always refuses to arrest the judge and I always tell him
[01:55:38.180 --> 01:55:39.780] well, bubba
[01:55:39.780 --> 01:55:43.380] Life is filled with little decisions. We all get to make some
[01:55:44.420 --> 01:55:46.100] Your turn
[01:55:46.100 --> 01:55:52.900] Are you going to perform your duty as prescribed by article 2.13 code of criminal procedure and arrest this judge in accordance with?
[01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:58.260] 1401 1406 texas code of criminal procedure or you want to shield this judge from prosecution
[01:55:58.260 --> 01:56:02.180] In violation of 3805 penal code
[01:56:03.140 --> 01:56:05.140] your call
[01:56:05.460 --> 01:56:07.460] They always refuse
[01:56:08.260 --> 01:56:09.300] but
[01:56:09.300 --> 01:56:11.720] Then they're subject to felony prosecution
[01:56:12.980 --> 01:56:15.700] Let me throw in two things before we get to 10
[01:56:17.940 --> 01:56:23.060] You say that again mary let me throw in two things before we get to 10 pm
[01:56:24.420 --> 01:56:25.940] Okay
[01:56:25.940 --> 01:56:27.060] um
[01:56:27.060 --> 01:56:31.300] I appreciate and I appreciate you. I appreciate you just want to say that um
[01:56:33.780 --> 01:56:38.420] Bob smiley is going to be at the vax movie screening tomorrow night
[01:56:39.300 --> 01:56:43.060] with regina discussing about dangerous teaching people about
[01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:49.240] Hydrofluoric acid is fluoride so he's out doing some public service tomorrow
[01:56:49.780 --> 01:56:56.040] And can't make the show and that also regina is somewhat facebook friends with erin brockovich
[01:56:56.040 --> 01:57:04.200] And erin brockovich thought the uh councilman's comments about there being corn sounding music behind in one of our videos
[01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:07.080] Was really disgusting and rude and whatnot
[01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:10.520] so erin brockovich is posting about
[01:57:11.240 --> 01:57:14.840] the uh scandal at the dallas city hall
[01:57:17.080 --> 01:57:18.680] Wonderful
[01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:22.120] Well, that's that's the good part about the first amendment
[01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:24.280] the
[01:57:24.280 --> 01:57:27.000] City council member can post whatever he wants to
[01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:29.900] But he can also suffer the consequences
[01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:37.260] Okay, one minute left. We have bob smiley on hello. Mr. Smiley
[01:57:38.360 --> 01:57:40.360] How are you doing this evening?
[01:57:40.600 --> 01:57:42.520] I am doing well
[01:57:42.520 --> 01:57:44.620] We only have one minute i'm afraid
[01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:49.320] Well, uh this weekend is going to be a big event
[01:57:49.320 --> 01:57:55.160] We are going to try to end the drug war with jury nullification. We want people to bolt their conscience
[01:57:55.800 --> 01:58:00.120] We want people to set people free from victimless crimes
[01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:07.080] Tell the government that these unconstitutional laws that are violating their rights, especially their ninth amendment rights
[01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:14.360] Are not going to be tolerated and we are going to send a message to the legislatures and the judicial branch
[01:58:14.360 --> 01:58:19.720] And we're going to tell them that's no more. Are they going to have us stand over the barrel?
[01:58:20.200 --> 01:58:23.480] It's time to take our freedoms back. So come on out everybody
[01:58:24.200 --> 01:58:25.400] facebook
[01:58:25.400 --> 01:58:33.020] Uh bob smi lie message me i'll get you information where we're going to meet or go to fija.org
[01:58:34.280 --> 01:58:38.040] Uh in contact, uh, person tyman she'll guide you to me
[01:58:38.680 --> 01:58:39.720] um
[01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:44.600] But let's go out there and end this drug war the more warriors we have on the pavement
[01:58:46.120 --> 01:58:48.440] Okay, hold on we are out of time
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