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[00:23.280 --> 00:29.600] Markets for the 11th of November 2015 opened up with gold at $1,084.79 an ounce, silver
[00:29.600 --> 00:36.280] at $14.30 an ounce, Texas crude at $44.21 a barrel, and Bitcoin is currently sitting
[00:36.280 --> 00:45.000] at about $310 U.S. currency.
[00:45.000 --> 00:50.760] Today in history, Friday November 11th, Memorial Day 1921, President Warren G. Harding officiated
[00:50.760 --> 00:55.400] at the internment ceremonies at the Memorial Amphitheater at Arlington National Cemetery
[00:55.400 --> 00:59.640] of one of the four caskets exhumed from American cemeteries in France.
[00:59.640 --> 01:07.440] This was the commemoration of the unknown soldier of World War I.
[01:07.440 --> 01:13.000] In recent news, the Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba broke records with $14.3 billion in
[01:13.000 --> 01:15.960] sales on Singles Day, November 11th.
[01:15.960 --> 01:21.040] 11-11 is Singles Day in China because 11-11 looked like bare branches, a term used for
[01:21.040 --> 01:22.500] bachelors in Chinese.
[01:22.500 --> 01:27.480] The Alibaba Group holding limited said mobile sales loan made up about 70% of it, while
[01:27.480 --> 01:31.640] Alibaba Jack Ma has said that he'd like to export Singles Day to the United States.
[01:31.640 --> 01:36.280] It's not likely, say experts, since it would turn a solemn day of remembrance into a day
[01:36.280 --> 01:38.000] of frivolous spending.
[01:38.000 --> 01:42.240] You know, like Thanksgiving and Christmas, Alibaba was able to make 14-plus billion in
[01:42.240 --> 01:53.320] sales in a single day in a country that spends a third of what we do on military armament.
[01:53.320 --> 01:57.920] The world's most popular social media site, Facebook, will now be charged 250,000 euros
[01:57.920 --> 02:02.500] a day if it doesn't change the way it uses tracking cookies after a lawsuit was raised
[02:02.500 --> 02:05.800] in one by a Belgian privacy watchdog group.
[02:05.800 --> 02:09.500] Frederic de Bouchière, the lawyer behind the case, has stated that he is anticipating
[02:09.500 --> 02:10.840] other cases to follow.
[02:10.840 --> 02:14.640] The Belgian privacy watchdog successfully argued that Facebook was infringing on the
[02:14.640 --> 02:18.240] privacy rights of the country's citizens by tracking them around the internet, even
[02:18.240 --> 02:20.160] if they hadn't signed up to the site.
[02:20.160 --> 02:24.320] Apparently, Facebook had been enabling cookies which would load onto a user's browser if
[02:24.320 --> 02:28.560] they went onto a Facebook page, even if they weren't logged in, and then used them to track
[02:28.560 --> 02:31.040] them when they came back to the site.
[02:31.040 --> 02:36.000] Facebook's defense is that it was only collecting computer IP addresses and other unique identifiers
[02:36.000 --> 02:37.000] via these cookies.
[02:37.000 --> 02:41.880] However, the court ruled that that information was personal data and should not be tracked.
[02:41.880 --> 02:47.120] Facebook does plan to appeal the case, stating that only EU courts and not Belgian courts
[02:47.120 --> 02:49.600] have the authority to make such rulings.
[02:49.600 --> 03:09.440] This was your Lowdown for November 11, 2013.
[03:09.440 --> 03:33.600] Okay, howdy, howdy, this is Randy Kelton, Google My Radio.
[03:33.600 --> 03:46.480] On this Friday the 13th, November 2015, and thank you all for being here, we're going
[03:46.480 --> 03:55.640] to keep the call-in lines open all night, our call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[03:55.640 --> 03:58.640] If you have a question or a comment, give us a call.
[03:58.640 --> 04:08.800] I want to start out by talking about something I spoke to yesterday, and I'm basically an
[04:08.800 --> 04:20.480] engineer and I try to keep up on emerging technology, and of late it's been giving
[04:20.480 --> 04:26.680] me some serious concern.
[04:26.680 --> 04:31.280] We in the legal reform community have been addressing a number of issues, and most of
[04:31.280 --> 04:41.120] those issues are issues that people like us have been addressing since we've had civilizations,
[04:41.120 --> 04:49.200] since people have gathered together in groups and ordered themselves into a structured and
[04:49.200 --> 04:59.280] orderly society, those people in positions of power and authority have always seemed
[04:59.280 --> 05:08.640] to abuse that power and authority, and there was always a struggle between those in authority
[05:08.640 --> 05:17.360] and those not in authority, so we're in the same place, same situation, and for the last
[05:17.360 --> 05:30.320] so 15, 20 years we've been addressing concerns about privacy, more so in the last 10 years.
[05:30.320 --> 05:38.480] Problem with that is, is we got started too late, by the time we began to notice that
[05:38.480 --> 05:46.520] there was a problem with our privacy, we were already over the edge of the precipice, too
[05:46.520 --> 05:54.760] late to fix it, that bell's already been rung, we're not going to unring it.
[05:54.760 --> 06:02.160] There's something else on the horizon that's coming at us like a freight train.
[06:02.160 --> 06:15.320] Technology is reaching a point to where we are very close to becoming as the gods, we're
[06:15.320 --> 06:21.000] very close to creating our own replacements.
[06:21.000 --> 06:25.440] We really need to start paying attention.
[06:25.440 --> 06:33.320] One thing that on the one hand is encouraging by its structure and another on the other
[06:33.320 --> 06:37.100] hand is terrifying is the internet.
[06:37.100 --> 06:44.360] The old science fiction writers had no clue about something called the internet, George
[06:44.360 --> 06:55.400] Orwell when he wrote 1984 did not have a clue, but the internet has emerged as the single
[06:55.400 --> 07:05.500] most influential aspect of technology in the 21st century and it's about to take another
[07:05.500 --> 07:07.960] giant leap.
[07:07.960 --> 07:16.840] The internet is like something alive, most people don't know that it was created at
[07:16.840 --> 07:20.200] the Pentagon.
[07:20.200 --> 07:28.900] We had a lot of defense contractors and universities doing research and what the Pentagon found
[07:28.900 --> 07:35.720] was that they were paying for redundant research, so the computers were beginning to come online
[07:35.720 --> 07:41.560] pretty good by this time, they were still big as a house, filled up two or three rooms
[07:41.560 --> 07:53.400] and cost millions of dollars, but we had them and they got their super geeks together and
[07:53.400 --> 07:59.640] asked them if they could put together some method of networking all of these computers
[07:59.640 --> 08:10.920] together so that the defense contractors could feed their data into the Pentagon and the
[08:10.920 --> 08:15.880] colleges doing research which could feed their data in and everybody could stay coordinated,
[08:15.880 --> 08:25.720] so they put together this interconnected network and the name internet developed from it.
[08:25.720 --> 08:31.160] Well what they did was they used 800 trunk lines, they would release a dedicated line
[08:31.160 --> 08:37.880] from a university to the Pentagon and then from the defense contractor to the Pentagon
[08:37.880 --> 08:43.120] and they could use those lines to connect the computers and talk back and forth to one
[08:43.120 --> 08:44.120] another.
[08:44.120 --> 08:49.400] It worked out so good that the defense contractors decided that they would bring an 800 trunk
[08:49.400 --> 08:56.080] line from their company to the college they were doing research with or to other companies
[08:56.080 --> 09:02.440] they were doing research with and everybody started written these 800 trunk lines or taking
[09:02.440 --> 09:10.640] the ones they already had and dedicating them to this network and the internet began to
[09:10.640 --> 09:15.320] grow and at one point the Pentagon got real excited and decided this was getting out of
[09:15.320 --> 09:24.280] hand and insisted that everybody route all their information through the Pentagon's hub
[09:24.280 --> 09:28.400] and the defense contractors and the colleges told them heck with you we paid for these
[09:28.400 --> 09:32.440] one 800 lines they're ours we'll use them how we want to.
[09:32.440 --> 09:40.000] So the internet let me say internet the Pentagon threatened to pull their hub and everybody
[09:40.000 --> 09:45.920] told them go ahead we don't care we got all these 800 lines we'll just route right around
[09:45.920 --> 09:50.960] you that's exactly what happened the internet the Pentagon never pulled their hub because
[09:50.960 --> 09:58.240] they realized the futility of it this thing by the time they realized there was an issue
[09:58.240 --> 10:05.280] the gene was out of the bottle and they couldn't fix it and it's grown all over the planet
[10:05.280 --> 10:12.080] you cannot shut down the internet you could rip the United States completely out of the
[10:12.080 --> 10:19.000] system and it would the system would rattle around us and keep going so it's like something
[10:19.000 --> 10:31.960] alive my concern is with some current innovations with the increases in speed and network speeds
[10:31.960 --> 10:42.880] in processor speeds and storage space is we've reached a point now to where a good portion
[10:42.880 --> 10:50.280] of our data is going up into the cloud and one thing that's going into the cloud are
[10:50.280 --> 10:58.520] virtual machines right now we have millions of servers all over the world and these servers
[10:58.520 --> 11:04.080] are serving certain areas of internet traffic but in order to be effective they have to
[11:04.080 --> 11:12.920] maintain 50% redundancy 50% more capacity than they actually need in order to handle
[11:12.920 --> 11:19.680] peak loads well what they're developing now are virtual machines in the cloud and the
[11:19.680 --> 11:29.280] virtual machines can talk to these servers and act as a gateway and serve up this extra
[11:29.280 --> 11:35.400] capacity where it's needed so these virtual machines can talk to the servers and they
[11:35.400 --> 11:42.560] can talk to one another and negotiate pathways to give us the most efficient use of the available
[11:42.560 --> 11:51.320] resources well that's pretty good I mean it's nice and efficient it increases our storage
[11:51.320 --> 12:04.000] capacity it increases efficiency all around my concern now we have not just an internet
[12:04.000 --> 12:11.400] the internet was essentially alive but it wasn't very smart it's made up of thousands
[12:11.400 --> 12:21.160] of servers serviced by that's said thousands of millions of servers serviced by millions
[12:21.160 --> 12:30.880] of technicians human technicians now with these virtual machines in the cloud beginning
[12:30.880 --> 12:40.440] to take over a lot of the work of the technicians within five years the internet will not just
[12:40.440 --> 12:49.240] be a worldwide network it'll all of a sudden start getting smart it's close to the point
[12:49.240 --> 12:59.400] that while it may not come alive it will certainly have the appearance of that and right now
[12:59.400 --> 13:08.080] I'm working on a technology to extract an expert's entire expertise in the form of
[13:08.080 --> 13:22.200] a dynamic interactive questionnaire and then feed that expertise back to a ordinary unknowledgeable
[13:22.200 --> 13:32.080] user in the form of a dynamic online questionnaire where it feeds him a question he answers it
[13:32.080 --> 13:40.240] and based on his answer it feeds him the next question and we can take a very very complex
[13:40.240 --> 13:48.480] set of data and walk right down through it for instance we have my bar grievance side
[13:48.480 --> 13:55.240] is down at the moment but I have the bar grievance standards about the American Bar Association
[13:55.240 --> 14:02.120] model standards we worked in the form of a questionnaire and for all of the standards
[14:02.120 --> 14:10.000] that are there and for questions I can bring you to just about any standard mine right
[14:10.000 --> 14:16.880] through all of that plethora of possibilities and take you right to the one you need now
[14:16.880 --> 14:25.080] when someone uses this it has the appearance of being smarter than any living lawyer because
[14:25.080 --> 14:33.960] the computer never ever forgets to ask the question that's been programmed in it and
[14:33.960 --> 14:40.560] the more questions you program in it the smarter it appears to be however it has no intelligence
[14:40.560 --> 14:53.680] whatsoever all it does is connect the dots it connects pieces of information together
[14:53.680 --> 15:01.680] and for the most part that's what we do I was at a meeting of big data programmers in
[15:01.680 --> 15:09.680] Dallas and we had programmers from IBM and Verizon and all of the big phone companies
[15:09.680 --> 15:15.600] and the big cell phone companies and most of the major players had representatives there
[15:15.600 --> 15:24.280] and they were complaining that artificial intelligence had not lived up to its hype
[15:24.280 --> 15:31.880] and so I raised a question I told him about this expert engine and it will beat the pants
[15:31.880 --> 15:37.680] off any living lawyer and it has no intelligence whatsoever and there's one guy in the group
[15:37.680 --> 15:42.140] say hey man I'm a lawyer you're not to take offense to that I said well present company
[15:42.140 --> 15:47.920] included this thing just connects the dots together you've been complaining that artificial
[15:47.920 --> 15:57.120] intelligence hasn't lived up to its hype so my question to you what is artificial intelligence
[15:57.120 --> 16:11.080] emulating what is intelligence where is that place between connecting the dots and this
[16:11.080 --> 16:18.280] thing we think of as intelligence we have computers now that appear to be very very
[16:18.280 --> 16:23.400] intelligent we have computers that will beat the snot out of any chess player on the planet
[16:23.400 --> 16:33.000] and has no intelligence at all it just connects dots runs the possibilities and when the dots
[16:33.000 --> 16:43.760] connect right then it's happy and has no intelligence so we have an internet that's going to start
[16:43.760 --> 16:49.440] becoming intelligent and then that scares the pants off in the Randy Kelton rule of
[16:49.440 --> 16:55.000] law radio are calling number five one two six four six nineteen eighty four we'll be
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[19:32.520 --> 19:46.960] Okay, we are back, we're Henry Kelton, Wheel of Life Radio, and I'm sure we have some people
[19:46.960 --> 19:57.640] out there who are a lot more knowledgeable about Internet technology than I am, and I
[19:57.640 --> 20:07.440] would very much like someone to call in and demonstrate why I should not be concerned
[20:07.440 --> 20:16.160] about an Internet with virtual machines, machines that really don't exist.
[20:16.160 --> 20:24.840] They only exist in software, and who here has played computer games?
[20:24.840 --> 20:32.400] These online computer games appear to be very intelligent, they create what is actually
[20:32.400 --> 20:44.000] literally a virtual world, but it doesn't exist, it only exists in a computer algorithm.
[20:44.000 --> 20:54.700] We are very close to developing what they talked about in Terminator, except in Terminator
[20:54.700 --> 21:00.720] there was just one massive computer that took control of everything.
[21:00.720 --> 21:04.000] That I don't see happening.
[21:04.000 --> 21:16.120] I see one massive conglomeration of computers, and one of the upsides to the Internet is
[21:16.120 --> 21:22.800] that it's composed of millions of servers all over the planet, serviced and maintained
[21:22.800 --> 21:27.600] by millions of individual human beings.
[21:27.600 --> 21:35.000] While we can't shut the Internet down, for one thing the world has become too interlaced
[21:35.000 --> 21:45.440] with the Internet, our current technology absolutely depends on it, but the idea of
[21:45.440 --> 21:53.520] the Internet taking over, that's not something that's very likely, because we have so many
[21:53.520 --> 22:02.120] separate individuals that individually program different aspects in order for the machine
[22:02.120 --> 22:04.240] to take over completely.
[22:04.240 --> 22:11.120] We would have to get a bunch of these guys to all game together and overwhelm the rest
[22:11.120 --> 22:14.160] of us, and I don't see that happening.
[22:14.160 --> 22:20.060] But I don't see the Internet taking over our lives.
[22:20.060 --> 22:27.600] What I am concerned about is that it will take over so much of the functions of our
[22:27.600 --> 22:38.840] lives that we will begin to lose our identity, lose our perspective to the machines, and
[22:38.840 --> 22:49.000] we're not that far from a machine that will at least have the appearance of being
[22:49.000 --> 22:57.200] as intelligent and as self-directed, if not more so, than we are.
[22:57.200 --> 23:07.080] We may well be developing our replacements, and it's not so far away.
[23:07.080 --> 23:12.400] So be afraid, be very afraid.
[23:12.400 --> 23:19.960] It's time we started paying real close attention to what's happening in the technology.
[23:19.960 --> 23:24.280] Technology is coming at us like a firestorm.
[23:24.280 --> 23:30.680] It's been building momentum for the last 20 years, and it's really gathered up a firewall,
[23:30.680 --> 23:32.880] and it could roll right over us.
[23:32.880 --> 23:34.640] We may already be too late.
[23:34.640 --> 23:37.360] Okay, we have a couple callers on the board.
[23:37.360 --> 23:41.240] I'm going to start out by going to Rob in New Mexico.
[23:41.240 --> 23:42.240] Hello, Rob.
[23:42.240 --> 23:43.240] Hey, Randy.
[23:43.240 --> 23:50.240] Have you been studying the Uniform Commercial Code?
[23:50.240 --> 23:55.080] Well, I was driving all day today.
[23:55.080 --> 24:03.120] Okay, I was digging through it today, and anybody who has a mortgage, you should absolutely
[24:03.120 --> 24:06.520] read the Uniform Commercial Code.
[24:06.520 --> 24:14.120] One of the things that you need to do when you read it is have your computer up and working
[24:14.120 --> 24:27.160] and have your browser open to a dictionary, because they use the language in a very specific
[24:27.160 --> 24:34.840] way, and you need to look up terms, terms that you think you know, but they're used
[24:34.840 --> 24:40.960] in a peculiar way, offer and acceptance.
[24:40.960 --> 24:43.480] What is an offer?
[24:43.480 --> 24:45.080] What is acceptance?
[24:45.080 --> 24:47.400] What does it mean in UCC?
[24:47.400 --> 24:51.400] What does identify mean in the UCC?
[24:51.400 --> 24:57.520] These are terms that have very specific meanings in the context of UCC, and you should look
[24:57.520 --> 24:58.520] them up.
[24:58.520 --> 25:07.160] Once I've been through it a couple of times, then I want to find an annotated version of
[25:07.160 --> 25:08.160] the UCC.
[25:08.160 --> 25:09.160] I haven't found it yet.
[25:09.160 --> 25:13.320] I mean, I found them online, but they're thousands of dollars.
[25:13.320 --> 25:15.840] You can find hardcover books.
[25:15.840 --> 25:21.240] Some were one of the, I'll find some online, and then we can start adding annotations to
[25:21.240 --> 25:22.760] it.
[25:22.760 --> 25:31.680] But in looking through the UCC, I'm finding everything that's in the consumer protection
[25:31.680 --> 25:40.600] laws, except in the UCC to have more teeth, and they don't have the statute of limitations
[25:40.600 --> 25:44.520] on the remedy that the consumer protection laws have.
[25:44.520 --> 25:47.160] Okay, kind of a bushwhack to you, Rob.
[25:47.160 --> 25:49.160] What do you have for us today?
[25:49.160 --> 25:54.720] Well, have you had a chance to look at my pleadings?
[25:54.720 --> 25:57.240] I haven't seen them.
[25:57.240 --> 26:02.040] You've been sending them to me, but I'm not finding them in my emails.
[26:02.040 --> 26:04.680] Let me check again.
[26:04.680 --> 26:05.680] There's a check there.
[26:05.680 --> 26:06.680] Oh, here it is.
[26:06.680 --> 26:07.680] I didn't see them.
[26:07.680 --> 26:12.400] I saw about 50 deals from Facebook.
[26:12.400 --> 26:20.400] Facebook got real busy today, but I haven't seen one from you.
[26:20.400 --> 26:23.400] Are you sure you're getting the right email address?
[26:23.400 --> 26:24.400] Yeah.
[26:24.400 --> 26:25.400] Yeah.
[26:25.400 --> 26:32.960] Okay, what is your first part of your address again?
[26:32.960 --> 26:33.960] San Patricio.
[26:33.960 --> 26:34.960] Say it again.
[26:34.960 --> 26:35.960] San Patricio.
[26:35.960 --> 26:46.840] You kind of broke up there.
[26:46.840 --> 26:47.840] San Patricio.
[26:47.840 --> 26:48.840] Right.
[26:48.840 --> 26:49.840] Okay, there it is.
[26:49.840 --> 26:50.840] S-U-N or S-U-N, S-O-N?
[26:50.840 --> 26:51.840] S-A-N-P-A-N.
[26:51.840 --> 26:52.840] S-O-N-P.
[26:52.840 --> 27:04.600] If it's in there, that'll get it.
[27:04.600 --> 27:07.480] I have nothing.
[27:07.480 --> 27:09.800] Are you sending through ruleoflawradio.com?
[27:09.800 --> 27:15.360] Yeah, well, yeah.
[27:15.360 --> 27:16.360] Something's wrong.
[27:16.360 --> 27:17.920] I have nothing from S-O-N-P.
[27:17.920 --> 27:23.760] S-A-N-A like Apple?
[27:23.760 --> 27:26.040] Okay.
[27:26.040 --> 27:30.080] With Sierra Oscar November Pop Alpha, correct?
[27:30.080 --> 27:33.160] No, Sierra Alpha November.
[27:33.160 --> 27:35.280] S-A-N?
[27:35.280 --> 27:36.880] Yeah.
[27:36.880 --> 27:38.440] Okay.
[27:38.440 --> 27:42.040] Got it.
[27:42.040 --> 27:47.240] I got one from you.
[27:47.240 --> 27:54.040] Monday, 11, I've got two from you, 11, the second, 11, the fifth.
[27:54.040 --> 27:55.040] Okay.
[27:55.040 --> 27:56.040] I don't know why.
[27:56.040 --> 27:57.040] That came up Rob Sartori.
[27:57.040 --> 28:01.720] I don't know why I'm not seeing those.
[28:01.720 --> 28:02.720] Okay.
[28:02.720 --> 28:04.920] No, I haven't been through it.
[28:04.920 --> 28:08.080] My apologies because I did not see it.
[28:08.080 --> 28:09.520] I still don't see it.
[28:09.520 --> 28:15.160] I didn't see it unless I looked it up, unless I searched for it.
[28:15.160 --> 28:16.160] Tell me about it.
[28:16.160 --> 28:19.160] I've got it up here.
[28:19.160 --> 28:20.160] Okay.
[28:20.160 --> 28:23.080] We've got two cases.
[28:23.080 --> 28:31.720] The first one that I filed is the alleged servicer, the second servicer who appeared
[28:31.720 --> 28:35.600] after I sent the notice of rescission.
[28:35.600 --> 28:43.600] After I stopped paying, I got no notice from the original servicer or the seller that this
[28:43.600 --> 28:45.800] was going to be the new servicer.
[28:45.800 --> 28:53.000] I got a letter from the original servicer saying that they were quitting.
[28:53.000 --> 28:54.000] That's it.
[28:54.000 --> 28:55.800] And then these guys showed up.
[28:55.800 --> 28:59.200] So I sent them validation demand along the way.
[28:59.200 --> 29:00.200] Okay.
[29:00.200 --> 29:01.200] Hold on.
[29:01.200 --> 29:02.200] They didn't show up.
[29:02.200 --> 29:06.000] Did he send you a letter telling you who he was?
[29:06.000 --> 29:12.800] I got an unsigned letter saying, hi, we're the new service on your account and a new
[29:12.800 --> 29:17.480] account number and a whole bunch of payment key bonds.
[29:17.480 --> 29:18.480] Okay.
[29:18.480 --> 29:21.400] Did they reference your old account number?
[29:21.400 --> 29:22.400] No.
[29:22.400 --> 29:23.400] Then?
[29:23.400 --> 29:28.320] They did reference seller.
[29:28.320 --> 29:31.360] They referenced who?
[29:31.360 --> 29:32.360] The seller.
[29:32.360 --> 29:33.360] The seller.
[29:33.360 --> 29:34.360] Okay.
[29:34.360 --> 29:35.360] Yeah.
[29:35.360 --> 29:38.360] It's a real estate contract, not a mortgage.
[29:38.360 --> 29:39.360] Okay.
[29:39.360 --> 29:40.360] Hang on.
[29:40.360 --> 29:42.360] We're about to go to break.
[29:42.360 --> 29:43.360] Randy Kelton.
[29:43.360 --> 29:44.360] Google our radio.
[29:44.360 --> 29:45.360] I called it number 512-646-1984.
[29:45.360 --> 29:46.360] Okay.
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[33:10.200 --> 33:24.760] Yeah, I got a warrant, and I'm going to solve them, to the head of government then, prosecute
[33:24.760 --> 33:25.760] them.
[33:25.760 --> 33:26.760] Okay.
[33:26.760 --> 33:27.760] Okay.
[33:27.760 --> 33:48.760] I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.
[33:48.760 --> 33:50.040] I had a little delay in my...
[33:50.040 --> 33:57.240] I'm running the board today, and I'm not sure if I just went online.
[33:57.240 --> 33:58.240] I'm going to...
[33:58.240 --> 33:59.240] Okay.
[33:59.240 --> 34:00.240] Give me just a second.
[34:00.240 --> 34:01.240] I'm going to go to work and come...
[34:01.240 --> 34:02.240] Oh.
[34:02.240 --> 34:03.240] Wait, wait, wait.
[34:03.240 --> 34:04.240] I got it.
[34:04.240 --> 34:05.240] I'm on.
[34:05.240 --> 34:06.240] I'm on.
[34:06.240 --> 34:07.240] I'm not screwing up today.
[34:07.240 --> 34:13.560] This is Randy Kelton, ruleoflawradio, trying to be a producer, not doing a very good job
[34:13.560 --> 34:14.560] of it.
[34:14.560 --> 34:15.560] Okay.
[34:15.560 --> 34:22.040] And we were talking to Rob in New Mexico, and as soon as I find the right page, Rob,
[34:22.040 --> 34:25.080] I will bring you back up.
[34:25.080 --> 34:26.080] There we go.
[34:26.080 --> 34:27.840] Okay.
[34:27.840 --> 34:34.680] And our call in line is open, 512-646-1984, we'll be taking you calls all night.
[34:34.680 --> 34:39.080] Okay, Rob, go ahead.
[34:39.080 --> 34:40.080] Okay.
[34:40.080 --> 34:49.040] May 20th, 2015, I got a letter from this escrow company addressed to my wife and I, regarding
[34:49.040 --> 34:56.800] the number, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, payer, me and my wife, payee, the seller's
[34:56.800 --> 34:57.800] on the property.
[34:57.800 --> 35:02.040] Now, this is a real estate, New Mexico real estate contract, it's a seller finance deal,
[35:02.040 --> 35:05.040] it is not a traditional mortgage with a note.
[35:05.040 --> 35:06.040] Okay.
[35:06.040 --> 35:09.280] The escrow contract is back in the county register.
[35:09.280 --> 35:10.280] Okay.
[35:10.280 --> 35:20.160] You mentioned earlier that because it's not a banking institution, it doesn't fall under
[35:20.160 --> 35:22.600] the consumer protection laws.
[35:22.600 --> 35:28.400] However, it does fall under the UCC.
[35:28.400 --> 35:35.320] And all of the benefits you would have gotten from the consumer protection laws, you get
[35:35.320 --> 35:36.320] from the UCC.
[35:36.320 --> 35:38.640] Okay, go ahead.
[35:38.640 --> 35:44.040] They gave you notice that they quit, and the new one gave you notice that they started.
[35:44.040 --> 35:49.960] So those notices were correct, whether the notice was sufficient or not, will be a question
[35:49.960 --> 35:56.440] that you would probably lose, you know, by claiming that their account numbers are different.
[35:56.440 --> 36:04.200] If they refer to the same actors, then the court's going to say you got notice.
[36:04.200 --> 36:05.200] Okay.
[36:05.200 --> 36:08.000] I wanted to say that last time, but I didn't want to interrupt.
[36:08.000 --> 36:10.480] Okay, go ahead.
[36:10.480 --> 36:18.640] What I asked them in writing on June 15th, 2015, is I am in receipt of your letter dated
[36:18.640 --> 36:22.720] May 20th, 2015 referencing account number blah, blah, blah, and demanding payment on
[36:22.720 --> 36:24.520] the above referenced account.
[36:24.520 --> 36:28.120] Never heard with or done business with your company and have no knowledge of any account
[36:28.120 --> 36:33.880] number blah, blah, blah, except the hand that you validated this alleged debt.
[36:33.880 --> 36:38.920] And then I go on to ask for a complete name and history that can be easily read and understood,
[36:38.920 --> 36:41.640] including but not limited to dates and amounts.
[36:41.640 --> 36:46.640] I asked for a breakdown of any amount claimed arrears or deficiencies.
[36:46.640 --> 36:52.680] I asked for payment dates, purchase purpose of payments, and receipt recipient of all
[36:52.680 --> 36:57.480] items charged on the alleged account since the inception of the alleged account.
[36:57.480 --> 36:59.720] Then I asked for any and all insurance records.
[36:59.720 --> 37:04.480] Now you remember that insurance was never put on this account.
[37:04.480 --> 37:05.480] Yes.
[37:05.480 --> 37:06.720] I asked for all tax necessities.
[37:06.720 --> 37:10.880] I asked for a breakdown of current charges, asking how they're calculated and the reasons
[37:10.880 --> 37:12.440] for any increase or decrease.
[37:12.440 --> 37:18.880] I asked for a copy of any annual statements and notices or shortages.
[37:18.880 --> 37:23.720] And okay, well, that's hidden in there somewhere, I can't find it.
[37:23.720 --> 37:29.600] Okay, without going into all that, you asked for all of the information you would need
[37:29.600 --> 37:36.920] so that you could calculate accurately the amount that you actually owed based on what
[37:36.920 --> 37:43.360] was paid into principal interest, what was paid into escrow, what was paid out of escrow
[37:43.360 --> 37:44.920] and what balance should be left.
[37:44.920 --> 37:55.280] So you should be able to calculate your current principal and your current amount in escrow.
[37:55.280 --> 38:00.680] Did you receive information sufficient to be able to do that?
[38:00.680 --> 38:05.520] I also asked them to produce the documents for my viewing and inspection.
[38:05.520 --> 38:09.840] I received no response whatsoever.
[38:09.840 --> 38:10.840] Beautiful.
[38:10.840 --> 38:18.320] Not even a way back saying your request is burdensome, nothing.
[38:18.320 --> 38:30.960] Now let me read you this, New Mexico Escrow Company Act 58-22-18, New Mexico statutes,
[38:30.960 --> 38:36.880] they have to respond within 14 days of a written request.
[38:36.880 --> 38:40.360] What's the remedy if they don't?
[38:40.360 --> 38:47.000] Well, the Escrow Company Act doesn't provide one, but the Unfair and Deceptive Practices
[38:47.000 --> 38:48.320] Act does.
[38:48.320 --> 38:50.320] Wait a minute, you broke up a bit there.
[38:50.320 --> 38:52.560] Say that again.
[38:52.560 --> 38:56.040] The Unfair Practices Act?
[38:56.040 --> 39:02.880] No, you say the whole sentence.
[39:02.880 --> 39:11.080] The Escrow Company Act does not provide a private remedy, but the Unfair Practices Act
[39:11.080 --> 39:13.800] does provide a private remedy.
[39:13.800 --> 39:14.800] Okay.
[39:14.800 --> 39:17.880] And what is that remedy?
[39:17.880 --> 39:21.760] A $100 penalty.
[39:21.760 --> 39:32.160] Well, there's also another remedy, a remedy provided in the Uniform Commercial Code and
[39:32.160 --> 39:39.320] almost certainly provided for in your contract.
[39:39.320 --> 39:47.200] If the company is required to abide by all law, you almost certainly have a governing
[39:47.200 --> 39:56.160] law and severability act, severability covenant, then they're subject to breach of contract
[39:56.160 --> 40:05.760] which constitutes repudiation of the contract, which gives you grounds for rescission.
[40:05.760 --> 40:10.360] So have you filed rescission yet?
[40:10.360 --> 40:15.360] What was that?
[40:15.360 --> 40:16.360] We broke up there.
[40:16.360 --> 40:17.360] Okay.
[40:17.360 --> 40:18.360] Okay.
[40:18.360 --> 40:19.360] Okay.
[40:19.360 --> 40:20.360] That wasn't clear.
[40:20.360 --> 40:22.360] You need to enunciate.
[40:22.360 --> 40:23.360] Okay.
[40:23.360 --> 40:25.480] So you did file a rescission.
[40:25.480 --> 40:27.840] How long ago?
[40:27.840 --> 40:32.840] The rescission was filed in January before these people ever showed up.
[40:32.840 --> 40:33.840] Okay.
[40:33.840 --> 40:39.800] So you need to file an action to enforce rescission.
[40:39.800 --> 40:46.280] Do that one first because in the order of things, that one is dispositive.
[40:46.280 --> 40:48.280] Okay.
[40:48.280 --> 40:53.080] That will dispose of the whole issue.
[40:53.080 --> 41:02.040] And if you get blown out on the rescission, then we go back and file suit against them
[41:02.040 --> 41:14.040] for breach of contract and essentially fraud here, they've taken your money and haven't
[41:14.040 --> 41:16.240] accounted for it.
[41:16.240 --> 41:24.160] And I know if Jeff Cedric is listening, he's going to get tense when we say fraud, but
[41:24.160 --> 41:29.120] this one doesn't go to false and misleading.
[41:29.120 --> 41:38.360] This goes to fraud per se, where they took money for a stated purpose, then did not use
[41:38.360 --> 41:43.200] the money for that stated purpose and have not accounted for the money.
[41:43.200 --> 41:51.520] That's fraud and you have enough there to prove up the fraud.
[41:51.520 --> 41:58.120] So while Jeff is right, generally you don't want to go to fraud because it is so hard
[41:58.120 --> 42:02.960] to prove, but in this case, this is pretty straightforward.
[42:02.960 --> 42:08.320] Now rather they bought insurance or not, you don't care.
[42:08.320 --> 42:14.520] You don't have notice that they bought insurance and you had a right to have notice.
[42:14.520 --> 42:25.200] So you've got a good case and I'm looking at your document here and so far I like the
[42:25.200 --> 42:40.760] way it's done, you do party's jurisdiction, you've got a nice long statement of facts.
[42:40.760 --> 42:48.720] Primary purpose in the trial court, establish the facts in accordance with the rules of
[42:48.720 --> 42:55.800] evidence and I'm sorry, your purpose in the court is to get the facts and the law before
[42:55.800 --> 42:57.720] the court.
[42:57.720 --> 43:02.040] The judge's duty is to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence and
[43:02.040 --> 43:08.160] apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case and when you get the facts and
[43:08.160 --> 43:12.600] subsequently the law, I'm going to take it you have a points and authorities down here
[43:12.600 --> 43:25.400] that show how these facts amount to specific causes of action, am I correct in that?
[43:25.400 --> 43:29.400] I labeled it causes of action or well, I've got the...
[43:29.400 --> 43:35.320] Here you have a statement of factual accusation, man, did you plagiarize my work?
[43:35.320 --> 43:36.320] Yes.
[43:36.320 --> 43:37.320] Good.
[43:37.320 --> 43:49.920] Okay, this is Randy Kelton, we're by radio or call in number, 512-646-1984 and we're
[43:49.920 --> 43:57.400] talking to this expert plagiarist, we'll be right back.
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[45:59.840 --> 46:10.720] Whoa, whoa, yeah.
[46:10.720 --> 46:28.900] Always, I must be careful, what I'm wishing for.
[46:28.900 --> 46:37.900] When I'm hungry I like to know just what I'm fishing for I ain't asking for much I ain't
[46:37.900 --> 46:38.900] I ain't asking for much
[46:38.900 --> 46:46.420] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Rue of La Radio, and we're talking to Rob in New Mexico.
[46:46.420 --> 46:48.420] Hello, Rob.
[46:48.420 --> 46:50.420] Yes, sir.
[46:50.420 --> 47:02.420] Okay, I just got an email from Leslie in Pennsylvania and you're going to like what I just got.
[47:02.420 --> 47:06.420] It is a decision out of Texas.
[47:06.420 --> 47:12.420] The jury, okay, let me read this to you real very quickly.
[47:12.420 --> 47:20.420] So I have attached the jury award from the Wolf versus Wells Fargo trial. The jury concluded
[47:20.420 --> 47:26.420] this deliberation on Tuesday afternoon, November 10th. It is my belief that this is the first
[47:26.420 --> 47:33.420] jury verdict of its kind where the jury was asked to determine whether a robo-signed transfer
[47:33.420 --> 47:39.420] of lien, assignment of mortgage was fraudulent, and on that basis award damages. The jury
[47:39.420 --> 47:46.420] awarded the Wolfs $190,000 in actual and emotional distress damages, $190,000 in attorney fees,
[47:46.420 --> 47:51.420] which is sufficient to take them through an appeal all the way up to the Texas Supreme
[47:51.420 --> 47:58.420] Court, and $5 million in punitive damages to be paid equally by Wells Fargo and Carrington.
[47:58.420 --> 48:03.420] Plaintiffs David, Mary Ellen Wolf testified on their own behalf and I testified as their
[48:03.420 --> 48:09.420] expert witness. I explained to the jury the sequence of true sales that were necessary
[48:09.420 --> 48:17.420] to properly, I'm going to pop up, properly securitize the Wolf's mortgage loan using
[48:17.420 --> 48:23.420] my securitization flow charts, which I have attached below. Once the jury understood the
[48:23.420 --> 48:28.420] requirements of the mortgage loan purchase agreement and the pooling and service agreement,
[48:28.420 --> 48:34.420] they were able to see why the transfer of lien executed by Tom Croft was fraudulent
[48:34.420 --> 48:41.420] on the face of the document. The defendants called robo-signer Tom Croft and Clayton Gordon
[48:41.420 --> 48:48.420] as witnesses, both of whom are employed by Carrington Mortgages Services LLC. The jury
[48:48.420 --> 48:54.420] also found that even though Wells Fargo Bank was in the physical possession of the original
[48:54.420 --> 49:00.420] note, it did not own the mortgage loan because it was never securitized into the Carrington
[49:00.420 --> 49:08.420] Mortgage Loan Trust Series 2006 NC3, over which Wells Fargo serves as trustee. The jury
[49:08.420 --> 49:14.420] verdict and especially their finding that the transfer of lien was fraudulent supports
[49:14.420 --> 49:23.420] my findings in all of the registry of deed audits I have conducted for John Kell O'Brien
[49:23.420 --> 49:28.420] Unregistered Deeds, Essex, Southern District of Massachusetts. This is the woman in Massachusetts
[49:28.420 --> 49:35.420] who is very well known for doing this. This may be the first time a jury has nailed a
[49:35.420 --> 49:42.420] robo-signer. Awesome. Oh, this is good news. I hope Leslie calls the interview to talk
[49:42.420 --> 49:51.420] to her about it. Okay. Back to yours. I Bushwhacked you again. And yours is a great fraud claim.
[49:51.420 --> 50:00.420] This is just, this is just outright theft. They stole your money by false pretenses.
[50:00.420 --> 50:06.420] Okay. I keep interrupting you. Okay. Take me where you're going. You're probably going
[50:06.420 --> 50:16.420] to a place I'm not anticipating. Well, okay. The reason I sued the second alleged servicer
[50:16.420 --> 50:25.420] first, I don't like to think that people are horrible. And I kept hoping that these
[50:25.420 --> 50:32.420] sellers who run a local real estate company and have a reputation for being scoundrels,
[50:32.420 --> 50:36.420] but I kept hoping that they would do the right thing and we could come to the table and make
[50:36.420 --> 50:43.420] an agreement. But they refused to respond to me in writing. The lady would show up at
[50:43.420 --> 50:50.420] my house or across from my wife in public and harass us verbally telling us, you need
[50:50.420 --> 50:55.420] to get insurance. You need to get insurance. After I'd already sent her a letter asking
[50:55.420 --> 51:00.420] her to put everything in writing. I don't trust her word, but I still kept hoping that
[51:00.420 --> 51:07.420] she would do the right thing. So what I figured I'd do is sue this new escrow company for
[51:07.420 --> 51:14.420] their violations of the escrow company act in the administrative code. And if they proved
[51:14.420 --> 51:21.420] up who they were, fine. I could add them to the bigger suit as another defendant. And
[51:21.420 --> 51:24.420] if they didn't prove up who they were, then I was going to sue them under the Fair Debt
[51:24.420 --> 51:29.420] Collection Practices Act in federal court because at that point they are just a debt
[51:29.420 --> 51:30.420] collector.
[51:30.420 --> 51:40.420] Was there a debt collector anyway if they became the servicer after you had received
[51:40.420 --> 51:51.420] the notice of default? If they receive the note while it's in default, they're a debt
[51:51.420 --> 51:52.420] collector.
[51:52.420 --> 51:57.420] Oh yeah. Well, I stopped paying in January. January is my last payment. That's when I
[51:57.420 --> 52:03.420] sent my notice of rescission and they came along in, what did I say, May, April, something
[52:03.420 --> 52:13.420] like that. May, they came along February, March, April, May, four months after I stopped
[52:13.420 --> 52:14.420] paying.
[52:14.420 --> 52:20.420] Did you receive a notice of default in the interim?
[52:20.420 --> 52:27.420] They sent me all kinds of notices of default.
[52:27.420 --> 52:36.420] This one's all you need. A notice of default or a notice of intent to accelerate, that
[52:36.420 --> 52:46.420] starts the clock. So now you're officially in default. If a new servicer takes over while
[52:46.420 --> 52:53.420] you're in default, he is not a representative for the creditor. He is a debt collector.
[52:53.420 --> 53:17.420] I'm looking. I think I did. That's all the way to March. Here we go. December 10th, 2014,
[53:17.420 --> 53:24.420] notice of default. This is from the lawyer for the original escrow company.
[53:24.420 --> 53:30.420] Okay. That's enough. If you're never cured, then from that point on, whoever takes over
[53:30.420 --> 53:33.420] becomes a debt collector.
[53:33.420 --> 53:41.420] Yeah. And this is only about demanding that I get insurance. So.
[53:41.420 --> 53:44.420] He's still a debt collector.
[53:44.420 --> 53:47.420] Yeah.
[53:47.420 --> 53:52.420] But demanding that you get insurance is not demanding that you pay him anything.
[53:52.420 --> 53:56.420] No, that's just the notice of default.
[53:56.420 --> 53:57.420] Okay.
[53:57.420 --> 53:58.420] So.
[53:58.420 --> 53:59.420] Okay. So.
[53:59.420 --> 54:00.420] And that guy too.
[54:00.420 --> 54:03.420] Okay. Where are we at this point?
[54:03.420 --> 54:11.420] Both complaints have been filed. The escrow company has been served. I believe they were
[54:11.420 --> 54:18.420] served around the fourth. So they've got to respond to that. I also filed a complaint
[54:18.420 --> 54:26.420] with the regulation and licensing division for the same things that I'm suing them for
[54:26.420 --> 54:31.420] and they're supposed to put together a response explaining to the regulation and licensing
[54:31.420 --> 54:39.420] division why they ignored my information requests. So I thought that was kind of fun.
[54:39.420 --> 54:46.420] So yeah, I've got to get the new one served. And there's a second debt collector attorney
[54:46.420 --> 54:54.420] that started coming after me about two months ago. And I filed a suit against him in federal
[54:54.420 --> 55:00.420] court for FDCPA. He hasn't been served yet either.
[55:00.420 --> 55:08.420] Okay. So do you have a question or comment? Our cardboard is filling up and I'm not sure
[55:08.420 --> 55:13.420] where we're going here other than that you're kicking their butt, which I'm really glad
[55:13.420 --> 55:16.420] to hear.
[55:16.420 --> 55:22.420] You pretty much answered it for me. I just wanted you to look over the mainly the Townsend
[55:22.420 --> 55:27.420] suit, the longer one, and see if I've made any stupid mistakes in it.
[55:27.420 --> 55:32.420] Okay. Okay. This is a big document. You're going to give me a headache going through
[55:32.420 --> 55:38.420] all of this, but I've got it up. I'll have a look at it in the morning.
[55:38.420 --> 55:39.420] Okay.
[55:39.420 --> 55:43.420] So I've got it up on my computer so I won't lose it.
[55:43.420 --> 55:44.420] Okay.
[55:44.420 --> 55:45.420] All right.
[55:45.420 --> 55:48.420] Okay. Thank you, Rob.
[55:48.420 --> 55:55.420] Okay. Now we're going to go to Steve in Washington. Hello, Steve.
[55:55.420 --> 55:59.420] Hi, Randy. How's it going now tonight?
[55:59.420 --> 56:05.420] Things are going pretty well. What do you have for us today?
[56:05.420 --> 56:11.420] I wanted to, I heard you talking about the artificial intelligence and I wanted to fill
[56:11.420 --> 56:21.420] you in on a couple of devices I have seen today. One was an eight axis CNC machine that
[56:21.420 --> 56:29.420] I watched machining a piece of metal and it looked like a praying mantis with arms, heads,
[56:29.420 --> 56:36.420] and everything. And I'm really into that CNC technology, but when I watched this, this
[56:36.420 --> 56:44.420] was scary because if this thing had legs, it could go places and do things.
[56:44.420 --> 56:52.420] Yes. When I came back from Vietnam, before I went, I was working at a machine shop on
[56:52.420 --> 56:58.420] the north side of Chicago. And when I came back from Vietnam, my brother was still working
[56:58.420 --> 57:06.420] there and they had just brought in a CNC lathe. For those who don't know what that is, it's
[57:06.420 --> 57:11.420] a computer controlled, a computer controlled lathe. And he was, they were experimenting
[57:11.420 --> 57:16.420] with it, getting it set up and it just made a heck of a mess.
[57:16.420 --> 57:23.420] And I had great fun at his expense, but the technology grew and my brother-in-law was
[57:23.420 --> 57:31.420] a machinist and he was just obstinate. He just refused to learn this new CNC technology.
[57:31.420 --> 57:38.420] And within 10 years, he couldn't get a job. He just became a dinosaur and the machines
[57:38.420 --> 57:45.420] have pretty well taken over. You know, I say, well, they give me a mill and a lathe and
[57:45.420 --> 57:51.420] I can make just about anything. Well, now they have a machine that is a mill and a lathe
[57:51.420 --> 57:56.420] all in one. They can take the part out of one part of the machine and put it in another
[57:56.420 --> 58:03.420] part of the machine, turn it in one, mill it in another. They can almost do the whole
[58:03.420 --> 58:14.420] thing. My son worked for GE and they had lathes and mills that I could put my house in. They
[58:14.420 --> 58:20.420] were so huge. Yeah, the machines are getting so big and so smart. It was scary.
[58:20.420 --> 58:28.420] Hang on, about to go to break. Randy Kelton, Rue of La Radio. I call it number 512-646-1984.
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[01:00:44.420 --> 01:00:50.420] Today in history, Friday November 11th, Memorial Day 1921, President Warren G. Harding officiated
[01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:55.420] at the internment ceremonies at the Memorial Amphitheater at Arlington National Cemetery
[01:00:55.420 --> 01:01:00.420] of one of the four caskets exhumed from American cemeteries in France. This was the commemoration
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[01:01:07.420 --> 01:01:12.420] In recent use, the Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba broke records with $14.3 billion in
[01:01:12.420 --> 01:01:18.420] sales on Singles Day, November 11th. 11-11 is Singles Day in China because 11-11 looked
[01:01:18.420 --> 01:01:23.420] like bare branches, a term used for bachelors in Chinese. The Alibaba Group holding limited
[01:01:23.420 --> 01:01:28.420] said mobile sales alone made up about 70% of it, while Alibaba Jack Ma has said that
[01:01:28.420 --> 01:01:32.420] he'd like to export Singles Day to the United States. It's not likely, say experts, since
[01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:37.420] it would turn a solemn day of remembrance into a day of frivolous spending. You know,
[01:01:37.420 --> 01:01:42.420] like Thanksgiving and Christmas, Alibaba was able to make 14-plus billion in sales in a
[01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:52.420] single day in a country that spends a third of what we do on military armament.
[01:01:52.420 --> 01:01:57.420] The world's most popular social media site, Facebook, will now be charged 250,000 euros
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[01:02:07.420 --> 01:02:11.420] the case, has stated that he is anticipating other cases to follow. The Belgian privacy
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[01:02:15.420 --> 01:02:18.420] country's citizens by tracking them around the internet, even if they hadn't signed up
[01:02:18.420 --> 01:02:23.420] to the site. Apparently, Facebook had been enabling cookies which would load onto a user's
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[01:02:53.420 --> 01:03:20.420] This was your Lowdown for November 11, 2013.
[01:03:20.420 --> 01:03:28.420] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Blue Blood Radio, on this Friday the 13th, November the
[01:03:28.420 --> 01:03:41.420] 13th, 2015, and we're talking to Steve in Washington. Okay, Steve, where were we? Oh,
[01:03:41.420 --> 01:03:44.420] we were talking about Monster Machines.
[01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:51.420] Yeah, and yeah, and this one, you know, I love the way, you know, I'm learning CNC and
[01:03:51.420 --> 01:03:58.420] I'm doing my own mesh, I've got mesh cam and everything, and it's nice. But these machines
[01:03:58.420 --> 01:04:08.420] are scary. And the big thing is, is the people that are making developing technology have
[01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:14.420] a main customer, which is the government, you know, like Department of Defense, because
[01:04:14.420 --> 01:04:20.420] they have the money to pay. And today I saw a camera that they can put out and it just
[01:04:20.420 --> 01:04:29.420] scans the area and it can find all rifle scopes. And you know, it can find, you just put this
[01:04:29.420 --> 01:04:37.420] camera out and it finds where it locates rifle scopes. And you can hook it up to face recognition
[01:04:37.420 --> 01:04:45.420] or recognition software and you can just fire back with lasers. I mean, from this technology,
[01:04:45.420 --> 01:04:55.420] I've seen rifles and everything are obsolete compared to what we have now. And my big fear
[01:04:55.420 --> 01:05:03.420] is that if we have a war the next time, it's not going to be one, it's going to be one
[01:05:03.420 --> 01:05:11.420] we're all going to have to hide. And that's what it's going to be like. And that's my
[01:05:11.420 --> 01:05:19.420] fear. I'm concerned there won't be a place to hide. There won't be a place. That's right.
[01:05:19.420 --> 01:05:27.420] There won't be a place to hide. Because the technology is getting too efficient at killing
[01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:37.420] human beings. But then again, it will reach a point where killing human beings will not
[01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:45.420] be important. Because it won't be human beings that will win or lose the war. We only kill
[01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:53.420] human beings because they're dangerous. When the machines grow to the point that they eliminate
[01:05:53.420 --> 01:05:58.420] us as a threat, there's no point in killing us anymore.
[01:05:58.420 --> 01:06:06.420] No. Yeah, that's another concern is say like you have, you know, you need to go, you want
[01:06:06.420 --> 01:06:14.420] to go to the store and you want to buy something that you like and your car decides that you
[01:06:14.420 --> 01:06:21.420] only need so many calories. So now your car is not going to start because it decides that
[01:06:21.420 --> 01:06:26.420] you don't need to eat this stuff. This is a good example right there. The car is not
[01:06:26.420 --> 01:06:31.420] going to start because you're not going to go to the store. It doesn't want you to go
[01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:36.420] to the store because it's not logical for you to eat more calories than you need. Now
[01:06:36.420 --> 01:06:38.420] does that sound scary or what?
[01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:45.420] Yeah, well, it sounds really farfetched. Well, I guess 10 years ago that would really sound
[01:06:45.420 --> 01:06:48.420] farfetched. Today it doesn't.
[01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:51.420] Farfetched. Yes, no.
[01:06:51.420 --> 01:06:58.420] They would certainly have the capacity. Whether we would program them to do that or not, they'll
[01:06:58.420 --> 01:07:05.420] probably program the car to crank up and not crank at the grocery store because you didn't
[01:07:05.420 --> 01:07:07.420] buy enough.
[01:07:07.420 --> 01:07:14.420] That's true. But you know, wait till the machine, like you said, all this technology is out
[01:07:14.420 --> 01:07:20.420] there. Wait till it all comes together, but wait till it looks in the mirror and it recognizes
[01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:24.420] itself. Then we're really in trouble.
[01:07:24.420 --> 01:07:38.420] Well, they can already do that. One of the things that worries me is our military industrial
[01:07:38.420 --> 01:07:46.420] complex. What we know about is probably five to 10 years behind what they really have out
[01:07:46.420 --> 01:08:02.420] there. But I don't consider them the real threat. The real threat is that we are growing
[01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:13.420] ourselves out of existence. We're evolving through technology in ways that we as human
[01:08:13.420 --> 01:08:22.420] beings don't know how to handle. The whole paradigm of life is changing around us quickly.
[01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:32.420] And human beings don't adapt as fast. When the machines no longer need to kill human
[01:08:32.420 --> 01:08:43.420] beings because they're no longer a threat. When we get into a war-like situation where
[01:08:43.420 --> 01:08:50.420] the machines on the other side are the real threat, not us. Now we're using drones to
[01:08:50.420 --> 01:09:04.420] kill people in Iraq. They're likely to design something to kill the drones, so we're going
[01:09:04.420 --> 01:09:17.420] to have a war of the machines. The machines themselves are eliminating our need to be
[01:09:17.420 --> 01:09:26.420] out there being shot at and we're no value. I was in combat and in combat you don't get
[01:09:26.420 --> 01:09:33.420] in a fight just because you can. You don't blow something up just because you can because
[01:09:33.420 --> 01:09:45.420] it uses resources. You only expend your resources if you achieve a net gain. You don't get
[01:09:45.420 --> 01:09:50.420] into a battle just because you can win it. You certainly don't want to get in one you
[01:09:50.420 --> 01:09:55.420] can't win. If you do, you want to make sure you have an exit strategy. But you don't get
[01:09:55.420 --> 01:10:03.420] into one just because you can win it. You get into one that if you win it, it makes
[01:10:03.420 --> 01:10:11.420] a difference. And we as human beings, we're likely to become irrelevant and that's my
[01:10:11.420 --> 01:10:21.420] biggest concern. We're advancing ourselves into irrelevance.
[01:10:21.420 --> 01:10:27.420] Yes, and I believe these machines and I didn't even know they had eight and ten access machines
[01:10:27.420 --> 01:10:35.420] out there, but these machines would be able to reproduce themselves.
[01:10:35.420 --> 01:10:41.420] Yeah, that's not that's actually, I was reading an article about the automotive industry
[01:10:41.420 --> 01:10:51.420] about the one of the only things they couldn't do with a machine was load and unload trucks
[01:10:51.420 --> 01:11:02.420] because they didn't have the video technology to be able to look at something and recognize
[01:11:02.420 --> 01:11:08.420] its shape compared to all the shapes around it so that it could reach into a stack of
[01:11:08.420 --> 01:11:14.420] boxes and pull one box out without crushing it or without knocking the whole stack of
[01:11:14.420 --> 01:11:20.420] boxes down and then be able to manipulate that box no matter where its center of gravity
[01:11:20.420 --> 01:11:25.420] was and be able to move it to another place. And just in the last couple of years, they
[01:11:25.420 --> 01:11:32.420] seem to have overcome that issue. So there's almost nothing that human beings need to do
[01:11:32.420 --> 01:11:39.420] in building automobile. The movie The Minority Report where they're chasing him and he gets
[01:11:39.420 --> 01:11:46.420] in an automotive production line. There are no people around there anywhere. The equipment's
[01:11:46.420 --> 01:11:52.420] just cranking them out and we're moving in that direction very, very quickly.
[01:11:52.420 --> 01:11:58.420] Well, it's like Schwarzenegger's movie, you know, like Terminator. You know, we don't
[01:11:58.420 --> 01:12:05.420] think that could come true but remember Clint Eastwood's movies, you know, Jerry Harry.
[01:12:05.420 --> 01:12:11.420] We didn't think that things were going to happen like, you know, the gauntlet and everything
[01:12:11.420 --> 01:12:16.420] and today all these movies, I mean, these are all stuff we thought was science fiction
[01:12:16.420 --> 01:12:22.420] so happening today, you know.
[01:12:22.420 --> 01:12:30.420] My concern is that we're focused in the wrong place. We're focused on good and evil. And
[01:12:30.420 --> 01:12:37.420] because we're focused on good and evil, we're looking for something to rise up as an evil
[01:12:37.420 --> 01:12:44.420] force, something like ISIS. ISIS is something humans understand. It's a direct threat. We
[01:12:44.420 --> 01:12:55.420] go out and attack a direct threat. I'm more concerned that the machines will not be malevolent,
[01:12:55.420 --> 01:13:02.420] that the machines won't care about hurting us or eliminating us or taking our place.
[01:13:02.420 --> 01:13:10.420] We're building these machines and designing them not to be malevolent but to be our aids
[01:13:10.420 --> 01:13:19.420] and assistance. That may be the most dangerous thing of all is the machines will literally
[01:13:19.420 --> 01:13:28.420] make us irrelevant. What happens when we have no more purpose? Frankly, I have no idea.
[01:13:28.420 --> 01:13:36.420] Yeah, I like technology but I see that coming. I still have to agree with you. We'll be
[01:13:36.420 --> 01:13:44.420] irrelevant, you know. That's a scary thought, really. I hope I'm not around.
[01:13:44.420 --> 01:13:51.420] Okay, I want to hang around. So, only a few people need to hang around because they need
[01:13:51.420 --> 01:14:01.420] our experience and wisdom. If we have a job in getting older, our job is to develop wisdom.
[01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:08.420] In this culture, we've lost a lot of that. In most old cultures, they revere old people
[01:14:08.420 --> 01:14:14.420] because old people have lived a long time, had a lot of experience, and they develop
[01:14:14.420 --> 01:14:23.420] a lot of wisdom. It was expected that as you age, you would develop wisdom. So, people
[01:14:23.420 --> 01:14:27.420] worked at learning and understanding how things work so they could impart that information
[01:14:27.420 --> 01:14:34.420] to their children. We've lost a lot of that in the last couple of generations. But as
[01:14:34.420 --> 01:14:41.420] we live longer, we hope that a lot of this comes back. Our children are moving into a
[01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:51.420] new world that is totally without precedent. They're going to need a moderating force
[01:14:51.420 --> 01:14:57.420] and it's our job to be that. Okay, I really need to move along. We've got a bunch of callers.
[01:14:57.420 --> 01:15:02.420] Did you have a question on anything on law in specific, Steve?
[01:15:02.420 --> 01:15:08.420] Yeah. Are you going to let me know where you're going to hide when the next war breaks out
[01:15:08.420 --> 01:15:11.420] so I can move in with you?
[01:15:11.420 --> 01:15:17.420] Well, one thing I'm not going to do is try to hide from what's coming.
[01:15:17.420 --> 01:15:19.420] Yeah.
[01:15:19.420 --> 01:15:27.420] I'll be right there in front of it. And what's coming, I don't expect to be the danger is
[01:15:27.420 --> 01:15:34.420] not in a war. War, that's something humans do. That's something humans do to each other.
[01:15:34.420 --> 01:15:42.420] In the rise of the machines, what we're doing is casting the machines in the roles of humans
[01:15:42.420 --> 01:15:48.420] and they're not humans. They will be altogether different and if we're to understand what's
[01:15:48.420 --> 01:15:57.420] coming, we have to back out of our petty prejudices and fears and look at these things
[01:15:57.420 --> 01:16:05.420] for what they are. Try to predict where they will lead us and decide if that's a good place
[01:16:05.420 --> 01:16:13.420] or a bad place and do what we can to make sure we don't let these things get out of control.
[01:16:13.420 --> 01:16:18.420] I suspect they're going to get out of control no matter what we do, but so that if they
[01:16:18.420 --> 01:16:27.420] do get out of control, they don't find us as irrelevant. We have to find a way to stay relevant.
[01:16:27.420 --> 01:16:28.420] Sounds good.
[01:16:28.420 --> 01:16:32.420] Okay. Thank you, Steve.
[01:16:32.420 --> 01:16:39.420] Well, we're about to go to break. We're going to go to Miss Leslie.
[01:16:39.420 --> 01:16:46.420] Miss Leslie has kind of become my mentor on how to write good legal documents.
[01:16:46.420 --> 01:16:50.420] So, Miss Leslie, we'll see you on the other side. This is Randy Kelton,
[01:16:50.420 --> 01:16:57.420] Rue of La Radio. I call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:32.420 --> 01:19:38.420] Randy Felton, RuleOfLaw Radio, and we're going to Leslie in Pennsylvania.
[01:19:38.420 --> 01:19:40.420] Hello, Ms. Leslie.
[01:19:40.420 --> 01:19:42.420] Hello, Randy.
[01:19:42.420 --> 01:19:48.420] That, where did you, where did you find all these great cases?
[01:19:48.420 --> 01:19:51.420] All over the place.
[01:19:51.420 --> 01:19:58.420] But this one is particularly interesting to me when you read the motion that I sent you,
[01:19:58.420 --> 01:20:01.420] because it comes right to the same thing.
[01:20:01.420 --> 01:20:08.420] When you look on page three of that, I call it a plea to the jurisdiction,
[01:20:08.420 --> 01:20:11.420] but it's actually a motion to strike the complaint,
[01:20:11.420 --> 01:20:18.420] because there was a fraudulent assignment of mortgage in my case, just like in that one.
[01:20:18.420 --> 01:20:32.420] Yeah, and I've gotten to where, in trying to sort out of all the plethora of possibilities we're coming across,
[01:20:32.420 --> 01:20:41.420] what do we do first, and then if that doesn't get us where we need to be, what do we do second?
[01:20:41.420 --> 01:20:46.420] We need to have all of these issues, not just the issues lined out,
[01:20:46.420 --> 01:20:50.420] but the order in which we should be addressing the issues.
[01:20:50.420 --> 01:20:54.420] And in doing that, one thing stands out.
[01:20:54.420 --> 01:21:02.420] In just about every case I look at, the first thing I want to do is a quiet title.
[01:21:02.420 --> 01:21:09.420] Not a federal suit, not a wrongful foreclosure suit, but a quiet title action.
[01:21:09.420 --> 01:21:12.420] It's a collateral attack.
[01:21:12.420 --> 01:21:19.420] First thing we do is go in and undermine the documentation they would use to,
[01:21:19.420 --> 01:21:25.420] the other side would use to establish agency standing or capacity.
[01:21:25.420 --> 01:21:27.420] You know, that's how I got the information,
[01:21:27.420 --> 01:21:31.420] and I guess the mere assignment of mortgage was the quiet title.
[01:21:31.420 --> 01:21:37.420] Even though it was dismissed, I still got the testimony,
[01:21:37.420 --> 01:21:44.420] because the assignment said they had nothing whatsoever to do with the assignment.
[01:21:44.420 --> 01:21:47.420] The party's name that's on there says they had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
[01:21:47.420 --> 01:21:49.420] They had no interest in the assignment.
[01:21:49.420 --> 01:21:58.420] Right, they said, and this they said in court, so it becomes collateral estoppel.
[01:21:58.420 --> 01:22:00.420] Exactly.
[01:22:00.420 --> 01:22:05.420] Nobody can come in and say that this entity had something to do with it,
[01:22:05.420 --> 01:22:09.420] because they've already stated in court under oath that they didn't.
[01:22:09.420 --> 01:22:11.420] Exactly.
[01:22:11.420 --> 01:22:20.420] So that was the argument, that there was a fraudulent assignment in my motion to strike the complaint.
[01:22:20.420 --> 01:22:23.420] But I also added something a little bit different.
[01:22:23.420 --> 01:22:34.420] Tell me, Randy, when someone rescinds their mortgage, who owns the mortgage in loans?
[01:22:34.420 --> 01:22:37.420] Okay, you broke up just a little bit.
[01:22:37.420 --> 01:22:38.420] Say that again.
[01:22:38.420 --> 01:22:39.420] Who, what?
[01:22:39.420 --> 01:22:48.420] When I rescinded my mortgage, they are required by law, state and federal,
[01:22:48.420 --> 01:22:53.420] to return my mortgage and note canceled back to me.
[01:22:53.420 --> 01:22:56.420] They did not, because they did not.
[01:22:56.420 --> 01:22:57.420] That is a criminal offense.
[01:22:57.420 --> 01:23:14.420] That is theft of movable property in Pennsylvania under 18, let me see, 183942, I think it is, but by operation of law.
[01:23:14.420 --> 01:23:19.420] Okay, let's stop here and talk about criminal.
[01:23:19.420 --> 01:23:28.420] What have you done to bring the criminal accusations to the court?
[01:23:28.420 --> 01:23:29.420] I haven't done anything.
[01:23:29.420 --> 01:23:30.420] Well, I have.
[01:23:30.420 --> 01:23:34.420] I've talked to the district attorney and he told me to file a police report,
[01:23:34.420 --> 01:23:38.420] which I have been hesitant to do right now.
[01:23:38.420 --> 01:23:41.420] But I have filed with the FBI.
[01:23:41.420 --> 01:23:47.420] Okay, you are in Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania is peculiar.
[01:23:47.420 --> 01:24:00.420] In that, like England and Australia, when it comes to the filing of a criminal complaint, you have standing.
[01:24:00.420 --> 01:24:02.420] I've already done that court too.
[01:24:02.420 --> 01:24:03.420] I have done that.
[01:24:03.420 --> 01:24:04.420] I'm in Texas.
[01:24:04.420 --> 01:24:06.420] I have no standing.
[01:24:06.420 --> 01:24:11.420] Now, I have a duty to give notice of crime, but that's all.
[01:24:11.420 --> 01:24:20.420] I have no standing to enforce the criminal complaint.
[01:24:20.420 --> 01:24:27.420] You, on the other hand, being in Pennsylvania, you have standing.
[01:24:27.420 --> 01:24:31.420] It changes the whole dynamic.
[01:24:31.420 --> 01:24:44.420] I filed one in the county court and the district attorney said that because at the time I was in a quiet title action
[01:24:44.420 --> 01:24:50.420] and it was in the court of appeals that I should wait until the court of appeals is done with it.
[01:24:50.420 --> 01:24:56.420] And when it was done with it, I went back to him and told him they had already filed foreclosure on me.
[01:24:56.420 --> 01:24:59.420] He said, go and report to the police.
[01:24:59.420 --> 01:25:02.420] He said, then we'll fix it now.
[01:25:02.420 --> 01:25:05.420] Wait a minute, say that again.
[01:25:05.420 --> 01:25:10.420] When we were in the court of appeals, he said to wait until the appeals were done.
[01:25:10.420 --> 01:25:11.420] Okay, he got the appeal over.
[01:25:11.420 --> 01:25:13.420] Then what did he say?
[01:25:13.420 --> 01:25:19.420] They filed foreclosure before the appeal order came down.
[01:25:19.420 --> 01:25:23.420] Okay, what did the prosecutor say?
[01:25:23.420 --> 01:25:27.420] He said, go to the police and make a report and we'll take it from there.
[01:25:27.420 --> 01:25:30.420] Crap, bola.
[01:25:30.420 --> 01:25:33.420] Take it to the court of common, please.
[01:25:33.420 --> 01:25:37.420] Well, I've already filed a RICO complaint.
[01:25:37.420 --> 01:25:40.420] Okay, RICO is separate.
[01:25:40.420 --> 01:25:44.420] RICO is only quasi-criminal.
[01:25:44.420 --> 01:25:46.420] This is directly criminal.
[01:25:46.420 --> 01:25:50.420] Take a complaint to the court of common, please.
[01:25:50.420 --> 01:25:53.420] And let the court of common, please.
[01:25:53.420 --> 01:25:56.420] See, the court of common, please.
[01:25:56.420 --> 01:25:59.420] They're the actual place to take it to.
[01:25:59.420 --> 01:26:06.420] But in Pennsylvania, the legislature has passed legislation that gives the
[01:26:06.420 --> 01:26:09.420] prosecuting attorney first blush.
[01:26:09.420 --> 01:26:14.420] The prosecutor should not get this from the police.
[01:26:14.420 --> 01:26:18.420] The prosecutor normally gets complaints from the police.
[01:26:18.420 --> 01:26:22.420] But those are complaints generated by police officers.
[01:26:22.420 --> 01:26:24.420] Right.
[01:26:24.420 --> 01:26:28.420] These complaints are generated by you.
[01:26:28.420 --> 01:26:35.420] And complaints are directed to the court of common, please, in Pennsylvania.
[01:26:35.420 --> 01:26:37.420] So you take it to the court of common, please.
[01:26:37.420 --> 01:26:44.420] And the court of common, please can examine the deficiency of the complaint
[01:26:44.420 --> 01:26:50.420] and make a determination of whether or not to pursue prosecution.
[01:26:50.420 --> 01:26:55.420] What they will do, since the prosecutor has first blush, they'll send it to
[01:26:55.420 --> 01:26:58.420] the prosecutor.
[01:26:58.420 --> 01:27:05.420] And if the prosecutor refuses to prosecute or exercises his first blush
[01:27:05.420 --> 01:27:10.420] discretion, then, I'm sorry, I started out wrong.
[01:27:10.420 --> 01:27:14.420] You really do have to take it to the prosecutor first.
[01:27:14.420 --> 01:27:16.420] Don't give it to the police.
[01:27:16.420 --> 01:27:20.420] Give it to the prosecutor first because he has first blush.
[01:27:20.420 --> 01:27:25.420] And when the prosecutor refuses to prosecute, then you can appeal his
[01:27:25.420 --> 01:27:29.420] refusal to the court of common, please.
[01:27:29.420 --> 01:27:30.420] Right.
[01:27:30.420 --> 01:27:35.420] And what I suggested in looking at Pennsylvania law, since the attorney
[01:27:35.420 --> 01:27:42.420] general of Pennsylvania has prosecutorial powers, you file a complaint
[01:27:42.420 --> 01:27:47.420] against the prosecuting attorney for shielding these people from prosecution
[01:27:47.420 --> 01:27:49.420] with the attorney general.
[01:27:49.420 --> 01:27:54.420] And at the same time, file an appeal with the court of common, please.
[01:27:54.420 --> 01:27:59.420] And then the attorney general is going to refuse to prosecute the prosecutor.
[01:27:59.420 --> 01:28:04.420] And when he does, you take the prosecutor to the court of common, please.
[01:28:04.420 --> 01:28:08.420] You can appeal this all the way up to the supreme.
[01:28:08.420 --> 01:28:10.420] Oh, I know.
[01:28:10.420 --> 01:28:13.420] This gives you direct access to the supreme.
[01:28:13.420 --> 01:28:17.420] And I had a friend in Pennsylvania that appealed a traffic issue to the
[01:28:17.420 --> 01:28:19.420] supreme.
[01:28:19.420 --> 01:28:28.420] And I was astounded at how tolerant they were, how patient with him they
[01:28:28.420 --> 01:28:29.420] were.
[01:28:29.420 --> 01:28:36.420] They gave him a 30-page response telling him what was wrong with his appeal,
[01:28:36.420 --> 01:28:39.420] telling him how to fix his appeal.
[01:28:39.420 --> 01:28:44.420] It was amazing what I read in there.
[01:28:44.420 --> 01:28:51.420] Your supreme court seems to take proceeds very serious.
[01:28:51.420 --> 01:28:57.420] This is a good way to generate a lot of politics.
[01:28:57.420 --> 01:29:07.420] But if you don't want to alienate the prosecuting attorney, then I'd have to
[01:29:07.420 --> 01:29:15.420] look at how to do this without alienating him.
[01:29:15.420 --> 01:29:20.420] But if you give it to the police, the police are just going to toss it.
[01:29:20.420 --> 01:29:21.420] Oh, yeah.
[01:29:21.420 --> 01:29:25.420] Right now, I want to get this thing kicked out of the court.
[01:29:25.420 --> 01:29:29.420] And in order to do that, I filed this motion to strike.
[01:29:29.420 --> 01:29:34.420] And I brought up the fraudulent assignment and mortgage first and foremost.
[01:29:34.420 --> 01:29:36.420] And then I asked him...
[01:29:36.420 --> 01:29:38.420] Okay, hold on.
[01:29:38.420 --> 01:29:43.420] When we come back, motion to strike what?
[01:29:43.420 --> 01:29:44.420] Okay.
[01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:45.420] Hang on.
[01:29:45.420 --> 01:29:46.420] Randy Kelton.
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[01:33:27.420 --> 01:33:37.420] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rue of La Radio, and we're talking to Leslie in Pennsylvania.
[01:33:37.420 --> 01:33:38.420] I can get mails if you unmute it.
[01:33:38.420 --> 01:33:40.420] Okay, there you are.
[01:33:40.420 --> 01:33:49.420] Okay, I have a plaintiff's reply to defendant's reply to plaintiff's response to defendant's opposition
[01:33:49.420 --> 01:33:53.420] to plaintiff's motion to withdraw a complaint without prejudice.
[01:33:53.420 --> 01:33:57.420] I don't have the argument, but that's too big. He wants a smaller one.
[01:33:57.420 --> 01:34:01.420] Oh, well, just reading that gives me a headache.
[01:34:01.420 --> 01:34:06.420] Yeah. Let me see.
[01:34:06.420 --> 01:34:10.420] I plead to the jurisdiction, because that's what it is, really.
[01:34:10.420 --> 01:34:14.420] It goes straight to jurisdiction.
[01:34:14.420 --> 01:34:17.420] And it's actually a motion to strike.
[01:34:17.420 --> 01:34:21.420] I had it named two different things in my computer.
[01:34:21.420 --> 01:34:25.420] Okay, jurisdiction, pleaded jurisdiction. That's the one you're talking about?
[01:34:25.420 --> 01:34:28.420] Yes, on page three.
[01:34:28.420 --> 01:34:30.420] Okay.
[01:34:30.420 --> 01:34:35.420] Respondents Thomas A. Orman, Leslie E. Orman hereby file a respondent's motion to strike.
[01:34:35.420 --> 01:34:38.420] Plaintiff's complaint as follows.
[01:34:38.420 --> 01:34:43.420] In all civil actions, mortgage foreclosure action shall be prosecuted by
[01:34:43.420 --> 01:34:51.420] and in the name of the real party in interest, Pennsylvania RPC RCP2002A.
[01:34:51.420 --> 01:34:57.420] The Superior Court of Pennsylvania has recognized that a real party in interest
[01:34:57.420 --> 01:35:03.420] is a person who will be entitled to the benefits of the action if successful.
[01:35:03.420 --> 01:35:10.420] A party is a real party in interest if it has the legal right under the applicable substantive law
[01:35:10.420 --> 01:35:15.420] to enforce the claim in question. This is your position.
[01:35:15.420 --> 01:35:16.420] Right.
[01:35:16.420 --> 01:35:20.420] And it's going to be your position that they are not that party.
[01:35:20.420 --> 01:35:24.420] Exactly. I own the mortgage and note.
[01:35:24.420 --> 01:35:29.420] They're mine. I rescinded them. The law says they're mine.
[01:35:29.420 --> 01:35:37.420] TILA and the Unfair Trade Practices Act.
[01:35:37.420 --> 01:35:41.420] Wait a minute.
[01:35:41.420 --> 01:35:45.420] I lost reference to part of that.
[01:35:45.420 --> 01:35:51.420] Okay. Under the Unfair Trade Practices and Consumer Protection Law of Pennsylvania,
[01:35:51.420 --> 01:35:59.420] when you rescind a mortgage for any loan, they are to return the security instruments
[01:35:59.420 --> 01:36:04.420] and the note to the borrower.
[01:36:04.420 --> 01:36:08.420] Period. They don't have an option.
[01:36:08.420 --> 01:36:11.420] They are commanded by law to cancel them and return them.
[01:36:11.420 --> 01:36:14.420] And TILA says the same thing.
[01:36:14.420 --> 01:36:17.420] So they're mine. The law says they're mine.
[01:36:17.420 --> 01:36:21.420] So they can't claim they're theirs. It's rescinded.
[01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:29.420] They have no order saying otherwise.
[01:36:29.420 --> 01:36:32.420] That raises an interesting question.
[01:36:32.420 --> 01:36:36.420] Now this goes to a property right.
[01:36:36.420 --> 01:36:38.420] Exactly.
[01:36:38.420 --> 01:36:42.420] They have absconded with your property.
[01:36:42.420 --> 01:36:45.420] Exactly.
[01:36:45.420 --> 01:36:50.420] Is that what this goes to?
[01:36:50.420 --> 01:36:54.420] Partly. First, we have a fraudulent assignment of mortgage.
[01:36:54.420 --> 01:36:59.420] That's part one of the argument.
[01:36:59.420 --> 01:37:07.420] Have you filed a quiet title action to the assignment of mortgage?
[01:37:07.420 --> 01:37:10.420] Not yet. No.
[01:37:10.420 --> 01:37:13.420] Let me make a suggestion.
[01:37:13.420 --> 01:37:20.420] File the quiet title and move for stay or move for an abatement.
[01:37:20.420 --> 01:37:26.420] Debate these proceedings until the quiet title issue can be heard
[01:37:26.420 --> 01:37:32.420] because the quiet title issue will act as res judicata in this case,
[01:37:32.420 --> 01:37:36.420] will act to clarify this case.
[01:37:36.420 --> 01:37:40.420] If you win that one, this case becomes nude.
[01:37:40.420 --> 01:37:42.420] Right.
[01:37:42.420 --> 01:37:48.420] Well, in this motion to strike, I argue that the assignment is fraudulent
[01:37:48.420 --> 01:37:53.420] because the assigning party says they had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
[01:37:53.420 --> 01:37:58.420] The place to really test that is in a quiet title action.
[01:37:58.420 --> 01:37:59.420] Right.
[01:37:59.420 --> 01:38:05.420] And the only thing you ask the court for is a declaratory judgment.
[01:38:05.420 --> 01:38:09.420] Do not ask for any damages of any kind.
[01:38:09.420 --> 01:38:16.420] All you want is a declaratory judgment that states whether or not this document
[01:38:16.420 --> 01:38:20.420] meets the statutory filing requirements.
[01:38:20.420 --> 01:38:28.420] And that should be relatively easy for the judge to make a definitive ruling on.
[01:38:28.420 --> 01:38:33.420] And do not let the judge award you any damages
[01:38:33.420 --> 01:38:38.420] because I'm not sure exactly how Pennsylvania works,
[01:38:38.420 --> 01:38:42.420] but I've seen them in other states where when the judge grants anything
[01:38:42.420 --> 01:38:48.420] other than a declaratory judgment, the court of appeals immediately tosses it.
[01:38:48.420 --> 01:38:53.420] And the judges were deliberately doing that to get it tossed out on appeal.
[01:38:53.420 --> 01:38:54.420] So.
[01:38:54.420 --> 01:38:55.420] Okay.
[01:38:55.420 --> 01:39:02.420] A real simple declaratory judgment based on this statement by this party
[01:39:02.420 --> 01:39:05.420] that's already been made in court,
[01:39:05.420 --> 01:39:10.420] and they're clatterily stopped from attacking the statement.
[01:39:10.420 --> 01:39:11.420] Exactly.
[01:39:11.420 --> 01:39:14.420] Because it is a matter of law.
[01:39:14.420 --> 01:39:21.420] And your quiet title should be essentially a done deal.
[01:39:21.420 --> 01:39:26.420] You should be able to file the quiet title and file for summary judgment.
[01:39:26.420 --> 01:39:31.420] Because the statement has already been made in court,
[01:39:31.420 --> 01:39:33.420] so it's a matter of public record.
[01:39:33.420 --> 01:39:36.420] It cannot be refuted.
[01:39:36.420 --> 01:39:42.420] So you don't think they would strike the complaint for having a fraudulent assignment?
[01:39:42.420 --> 01:39:53.420] Well, they would do it a lot more quickly if the fraudulent nature of the assignment was no longer in question.
[01:39:53.420 --> 01:39:54.420] Right.
[01:39:54.420 --> 01:40:01.420] If it's fraud by Judicata and in a different court,
[01:40:01.420 --> 01:40:08.420] this judge can't revisit the decision of the quiet title court.
[01:40:08.420 --> 01:40:15.420] And if the quiet title court has this really tightly framed complaint,
[01:40:15.420 --> 01:40:18.420] so it leaves the court no wiggle room,
[01:40:18.420 --> 01:40:23.420] I'm going to suggest with the set of facts you've indicated,
[01:40:23.420 --> 01:40:34.420] you can prepare a quiet title action and file with it a petition for declaratory judgment.
[01:40:34.420 --> 01:40:35.420] Okay.
[01:40:35.420 --> 01:40:40.420] Pull the record where they stated that in court.
[01:40:40.420 --> 01:40:42.420] Attach the record to your complaint.
[01:40:42.420 --> 01:40:52.420] And you have evidence that cannot be refuted that the court must take judicial notice of.
[01:40:52.420 --> 01:40:54.420] Because it's public record.
[01:40:54.420 --> 01:41:07.420] And there is sufficient evidence with this court statement in the court and the public record
[01:41:07.420 --> 01:41:14.420] that the judge can make an irrefutable definitive judgment that can't be refuted.
[01:41:14.420 --> 01:41:17.420] You should be able to get that with no argument.
[01:41:17.420 --> 01:41:21.420] Do you want us to serve the other party or just do it on the paperwork?
[01:41:21.420 --> 01:41:23.420] Don't serve the other party.
[01:41:23.420 --> 01:41:31.420] You're claiming that not the party who's claiming to hold it,
[01:41:31.420 --> 01:41:34.420] they're not the one that filed this document.
[01:41:34.420 --> 01:41:37.420] So they don't have standing in this issue.
[01:41:37.420 --> 01:41:46.420] The one who filed the document is the one who has standing to argue for the validity of the document.
[01:41:46.420 --> 01:41:50.420] Not the one that was assigned to.
[01:41:50.420 --> 01:41:55.420] That one doesn't get any standing until this document is validated.
[01:41:55.420 --> 01:41:57.420] Okay.
[01:41:57.420 --> 01:42:00.420] And so you want them in there.
[01:42:00.420 --> 01:42:02.420] If they try to come in, you object.
[01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:05.420] They have no standing here.
[01:42:05.420 --> 01:42:07.420] Okay.
[01:42:07.420 --> 01:42:08.420] This should be relative.
[01:42:08.420 --> 01:42:12.420] Even if they do, who want to come?
[01:42:12.420 --> 01:42:16.420] This is res judicata.
[01:42:16.420 --> 01:42:22.420] They can't argue with what's already in the record.
[01:42:22.420 --> 01:42:27.420] And they're not the one that made that statement in the record.
[01:42:27.420 --> 01:42:30.420] Another party made that statement.
[01:42:30.420 --> 01:42:37.420] So who is the one, okay, who did the assignment?
[01:42:37.420 --> 01:42:40.420] Mortgage IT says that they did the assignment.
[01:42:40.420 --> 01:42:43.420] That's who City Mortgage says did the assignment.
[01:42:43.420 --> 01:42:44.420] Wait a minute.
[01:42:44.420 --> 01:42:47.420] Merge did the assignment for who?
[01:42:47.420 --> 01:42:49.420] Mortgage IT.
[01:42:49.420 --> 01:42:51.420] And who?
[01:42:51.420 --> 01:42:57.420] Where does Mortgage IT get standing to file something in the record?
[01:42:57.420 --> 01:43:00.420] Well, they were the original lender.
[01:43:00.420 --> 01:43:01.420] Oh, okay, good, good, good.
[01:43:01.420 --> 01:43:06.420] And who is the party that said they had no interest?
[01:43:06.420 --> 01:43:07.420] Mortgage IT.
[01:43:07.420 --> 01:43:09.420] That's where I wanted to go.
[01:43:09.420 --> 01:43:13.420] The only one you notice is Mortgage IT.
[01:43:13.420 --> 01:43:19.420] So Merge did not act for a successor or a sign.
[01:43:19.420 --> 01:43:23.420] Merge acted for Mortgage IT.
[01:43:23.420 --> 01:43:26.420] So Merge is just an agent.
[01:43:26.420 --> 01:43:36.420] You petition, when you file the quiet title, the only one who should get noticed is Mortgage IT.
[01:43:36.420 --> 01:43:42.420] And they're going to stipulate that they have any interest.
[01:43:42.420 --> 01:43:43.420] Right.
[01:43:43.420 --> 01:43:44.420] They can't not.
[01:43:44.420 --> 01:43:47.420] Hang on, about to go to break.
[01:43:47.420 --> 01:43:53.420] Randy Kelton, Rue of La Radio, I'll call it a number, 501-2646-1984.
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[01:46:23.420 --> 01:46:26.420] Okay, we are back.
[01:46:26.420 --> 01:46:32.420] Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Leslie in Pennsylvania.
[01:46:32.420 --> 01:46:40.420] So, and this is one of the things that I've been struggling with.
[01:46:40.420 --> 01:46:44.420] Sometimes it's hard to figure out what the first thing we should do is,
[01:46:44.420 --> 01:46:48.420] and what the second thing we should do is, and then the third thing,
[01:46:48.420 --> 01:46:56.420] so that we work efficiently.
[01:46:56.420 --> 01:46:57.420] Right.
[01:46:57.420 --> 01:47:04.420] Well, when I was writing up the motion to strike the complaint, I was thinking, why do I want to do it?
[01:47:04.420 --> 01:47:06.420] What right do I have to ask?
[01:47:06.420 --> 01:47:09.420] And first of all, because the assignment is fraudulent.
[01:47:09.420 --> 01:47:13.420] The second is because they stole my mortgage documents.
[01:47:13.420 --> 01:47:15.420] They're mine.
[01:47:15.420 --> 01:47:20.420] I rescinded the loan, and they're mine, and I'm the only one that has the right to bring any action against this property.
[01:47:20.420 --> 01:47:21.420] Okay, okay.
[01:47:21.420 --> 01:47:24.420] Hold on, hold on.
[01:47:24.420 --> 01:47:32.420] Say you have a really nicely carved jack-o-lantern on your porch,
[01:47:32.420 --> 01:47:37.420] and I steal your really nicely carved jack-o-lantern.
[01:47:37.420 --> 01:47:40.420] What is your remedy?
[01:47:40.420 --> 01:47:43.420] Report it to the police.
[01:47:43.420 --> 01:47:47.420] Well, beyond, okay, there is the obvious criminal side,
[01:47:47.420 --> 01:47:52.420] but this jack-o-lantern was really important to you,
[01:47:52.420 --> 01:48:00.420] and it cost you a lot of money to get this thing carved so perfectly,
[01:48:00.420 --> 01:48:05.420] and your grandkids didn't get to see it, so it caused you all sorts of emotional distress.
[01:48:05.420 --> 01:48:08.420] What is your remedy?
[01:48:08.420 --> 01:48:10.420] You mean for the jack-o-lantern?
[01:48:10.420 --> 01:48:16.420] Yeah, yeah, what is your remedy for someone stealing your personal property?
[01:48:16.420 --> 01:48:18.420] Throwing them in jail.
[01:48:18.420 --> 01:48:21.420] Well, the civil remedy.
[01:48:21.420 --> 01:48:27.420] What I'm doing is let's not mix issues together.
[01:48:27.420 --> 01:48:36.420] If you read the rest of the thing, I go down after the rescission and the thing that they stole my documents,
[01:48:36.420 --> 01:48:41.420] then I go down to the rescission settlement and say they didn't join a real party in interest to this action
[01:48:41.420 --> 01:48:46.420] or prove any other interest, so how can I make a settlement on my rescission?
[01:48:46.420 --> 01:48:48.420] How can I settle this account?
[01:48:48.420 --> 01:48:53.420] I've paid so much money into the settlement sheet, it's a HUD-1,
[01:48:53.420 --> 01:48:58.420] and I paid so much to the servicer over the series of years that I paid on my mortgage,
[01:48:58.420 --> 01:49:00.420] and the house is only worth so much money.
[01:49:00.420 --> 01:49:05.420] Okay, wait a minute, hold on.
[01:49:05.420 --> 01:49:09.420] I've kind of got an issue here.
[01:49:09.420 --> 01:49:10.420] What?
[01:49:10.420 --> 01:49:16.420] Your original loan was with IT mortgage.
[01:49:16.420 --> 01:49:18.420] Right, mortgage.
[01:49:18.420 --> 01:49:26.420] And there is an assignment from IT mortgage in the record
[01:49:26.420 --> 01:49:35.420] where someone purports to act for IT mortgage and assign the mortgage to somebody else.
[01:49:35.420 --> 01:49:45.420] But IT mortgage will testify that that is fraudulent because at the time they didn't have anything to do with this note.
[01:49:45.420 --> 01:49:46.420] Right.
[01:49:46.420 --> 01:49:57.420] Okay, but IT mortgage, they're the ones who issued the note and if this assignment is bogus,
[01:49:57.420 --> 01:50:01.420] you've only got one place to go.
[01:50:01.420 --> 01:50:04.420] That's back to IT mortgage.
[01:50:04.420 --> 01:50:07.420] But they said they had no interest.
[01:50:07.420 --> 01:50:09.420] I don't care what they said.
[01:50:09.420 --> 01:50:20.420] Let's go back to the UCC, they can transfer their interest, but they can't transfer their duty and their responsibility.
[01:50:20.420 --> 01:50:30.420] If they transferred their interest, then they didn't give notice in the record that they transferred their interest.
[01:50:30.420 --> 01:50:38.420] So, so far as you're concerned, they're the only party of interest.
[01:50:38.420 --> 01:50:39.420] Exactly.
[01:50:39.420 --> 01:50:50.420] If you go in and snooker them into agreeing that this assignment is fraudulent, get the fraudulent,
[01:50:50.420 --> 01:50:59.420] get the assignment rendered void, everything that follows from the assignment isn't necessarily void as well.
[01:50:59.420 --> 01:51:00.420] Right.
[01:51:00.420 --> 01:51:04.420] Not the only one left is IT mortgage.
[01:51:04.420 --> 01:51:05.420] Yes.
[01:51:05.420 --> 01:51:11.420] So now everybody else is an interloper.
[01:51:11.420 --> 01:51:22.420] In Texas, there used to be the criminal act of conversion and that was specific to real property.
[01:51:22.420 --> 01:51:29.420] But they moved that into theft now and turned conversion into a cause of action.
[01:51:29.420 --> 01:51:42.420] Very specific cause of action for improperly converting real property from the proper holder to another party.
[01:51:42.420 --> 01:51:49.420] You're bound to have something similar in Pennsylvania.
[01:51:49.420 --> 01:51:55.420] If we do this right, it becomes res judicata.
[01:51:55.420 --> 01:52:05.420] If you can get that title declared void, then everything else becomes res judicata.
[01:52:05.420 --> 01:52:14.420] When you accuse these guys of trying to steal your property, that's established by law that they have no standing.
[01:52:14.420 --> 01:52:15.420] Right.
[01:52:15.420 --> 01:52:27.420] The thieves and the only one that has responsibility under the rescission is IT mortgage.
[01:52:27.420 --> 01:52:37.420] So you get them to come in and open the door so you can come back and sue them for enforcement of the rescission.
[01:52:37.420 --> 01:52:43.420] Well, the court in the federal court has said that Sandy May owns the loan.
[01:52:43.420 --> 01:52:46.420] You don't care who owns it.
[01:52:46.420 --> 01:52:49.420] Who cares?
[01:52:49.420 --> 01:52:51.420] You don't know anything about that.
[01:52:51.420 --> 01:53:00.420] You go look in the public record and the public record says IT mortgage holds it.
[01:53:00.420 --> 01:53:02.420] Randy, it gets funnier from there.
[01:53:02.420 --> 01:53:14.420] When the court said that Sandy May owns the loan and that City Mortgage transferred it to Sandy May in 2007,
[01:53:14.420 --> 01:53:20.420] if they didn't record it in six months, they can never transfer it to somebody else.
[01:53:20.420 --> 01:53:26.420] That's apparently what occurred.
[01:53:26.420 --> 01:53:27.420] Exactly.
[01:53:27.420 --> 01:53:35.420] Okay, you said if they don't record it within six months, they can never transfer it to anyone else.
[01:53:35.420 --> 01:53:36.420] Okay.
[01:53:36.420 --> 01:53:38.420] Too many pronouns.
[01:53:38.420 --> 01:53:42.420] I've got two days and I think they refer to different entities.
[01:53:42.420 --> 01:53:54.420] If IT mortgage doesn't file within six months, then Sandy May can never transfer it?
[01:53:54.420 --> 01:54:03.420] When mortgage IT transferred it to City Mortgage and two days later City Mortgage transferred it to Sandy May,
[01:54:03.420 --> 01:54:07.420] that was all within a timeframe allowable by law.
[01:54:07.420 --> 01:54:15.420] But because Sandy May did not record anything within six months of that transfer,
[01:54:15.420 --> 01:54:20.420] they're never allowed to transfer it to somebody else.
[01:54:20.420 --> 01:54:28.420] Well, if the court said they're still holding it, then that may become a new point.
[01:54:28.420 --> 01:54:32.420] But I'm going back to rule of law.
[01:54:32.420 --> 01:54:36.420] You don't care who actually holds it.
[01:54:36.420 --> 01:54:41.420] You care who holds it by the public record.
[01:54:41.420 --> 01:54:43.420] Right.
[01:54:43.420 --> 01:54:52.420] If Pennsylvania law is the same as Texas law, and I'm sure it is, 13.001 Texas Property Code,
[01:54:52.420 --> 01:54:59.420] the claim against real property not properly acknowledged or proven filed in the public record is voidish to the holder.
[01:54:59.420 --> 01:55:04.420] So if it's not properly filed, you don't care who got it.
[01:55:04.420 --> 01:55:06.420] Well, here it's a little different.
[01:55:06.420 --> 01:55:10.420] Here it says, well, if it's not filed, then you can't transfer it.
[01:55:10.420 --> 01:55:12.420] It doesn't say it's voidish to the holder.
[01:55:12.420 --> 01:55:15.420] It says it's voidish where there's any transfer.
[01:55:15.420 --> 01:55:26.420] But if they have an improperly transferred document, then under UCC,
[01:55:26.420 --> 01:55:33.420] they repudiated the contract and cannot enforce the deed of trust.
[01:55:33.420 --> 01:55:36.420] They may be able to come back and make a claim on the note,
[01:55:36.420 --> 01:55:42.420] but even so, you file a recension on the note.
[01:55:42.420 --> 01:55:43.420] Right.
[01:55:43.420 --> 01:55:50.420] So in looking at this, I'd like to do the stealth things first.
[01:55:50.420 --> 01:55:55.420] If you go for recension, you're going for the whole enchilada.
[01:55:55.420 --> 01:55:59.420] And they got serious reason to fight you like a tiger.
[01:55:59.420 --> 01:56:09.420] But if you go to the assignment, that IT will stipulate that that's fraudulent
[01:56:09.420 --> 01:56:12.420] because we didn't have anything to do with it.
[01:56:12.420 --> 01:56:19.420] And once that thing's done, now you've really thrown a cog in their works.
[01:56:19.420 --> 01:56:30.420] If IT mortgage did not transfer to anyone else, to Citi mortgage or whoever,
[01:56:30.420 --> 01:56:35.420] then Citi mortgage can't transfer it to Fannie Mae.
[01:56:35.420 --> 01:56:41.420] So Fannie Mae may claim to hold it, but they didn't receive it properly.
[01:56:41.420 --> 01:56:43.420] So that you can attack later.
[01:56:43.420 --> 01:56:51.420] But right now, you can go back to IT and show that IT breached the deed of trust,
[01:56:51.420 --> 01:56:56.420] even if they get past recision.
[01:56:56.420 --> 01:56:57.420] Okay.
[01:56:57.420 --> 01:57:07.420] How did the federal court determine that Fannie Mae held the note?
[01:57:07.420 --> 01:57:10.420] We had testimony of all three parties there.
[01:57:10.420 --> 01:57:13.420] Three were involved in the thing.
[01:57:13.420 --> 01:57:21.420] And mortgage IT had put into the record the MERS Milestone Report and Min Summary.
[01:57:21.420 --> 01:57:28.420] And that tells all the transfers that MERS has on that note.
[01:57:28.420 --> 01:57:29.420] Okay.
[01:57:29.420 --> 01:57:34.420] Let's give you a direct line to Fannie Mae.
[01:57:34.420 --> 01:57:36.420] Yes.
[01:57:36.420 --> 01:57:40.420] Okay. That we can't get around.
[01:57:40.420 --> 01:57:42.420] Because your law is somewhat different than ours.
[01:57:42.420 --> 01:57:47.420] So I would still go for that quiet title first.
[01:57:47.420 --> 01:57:50.420] And once you have that quiet title, then go for recision,
[01:57:50.420 --> 01:57:54.420] and you do the recision back to Fannie Mae.
[01:57:54.420 --> 01:57:58.420] Right.
[01:57:58.420 --> 01:58:00.420] But either way, it's a stolen document.
[01:58:00.420 --> 01:58:02.420] I want people to really understand that.
[01:58:02.420 --> 01:58:05.420] That's property rights.
[01:58:05.420 --> 01:58:06.420] That's real property.
[01:58:06.420 --> 01:58:08.420] Once you rescind it, that's yours.
[01:58:08.420 --> 01:58:09.420] Okay.
[01:58:09.420 --> 01:58:14.420] And then we talk about personal property rights.
[01:58:14.420 --> 01:58:15.420] This is not real property.
[01:58:15.420 --> 01:58:17.420] This is personal property.
[01:58:17.420 --> 01:58:18.420] Right.
[01:58:18.420 --> 01:58:21.420] And they stole it.
[01:58:21.420 --> 01:58:23.420] Yeah.
[01:58:23.420 --> 01:58:24.420] That ought to be fun.
[01:58:24.420 --> 01:58:25.420] Hang on.
[01:58:25.420 --> 01:58:26.420] Randy, my radio.
[01:58:26.420 --> 01:58:30.420] I call it number 512-646-1984.
[01:58:30.420 --> 01:58:31.420] Chris, hang on.
[01:58:31.420 --> 01:58:33.420] We'll be done with Ms. Leslie here shortly.
[01:58:33.420 --> 01:58:35.420] We'll get to you.
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