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[03:18.040 --> 03:44.560]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks.
[03:44.560 --> 03:51.320]  We're speaking with Chris in PA, and where'd Chris go?
[03:51.320 --> 03:56.080]  There's okay, I had to unmute you.
[03:56.080 --> 04:00.080]  Okay, Chris, where were we?
[04:00.080 --> 04:05.200]  You were telling me about the bankruptcy code and how it was the...
[04:05.200 --> 04:06.200]  Yes.
[04:06.200 --> 04:17.760]  Well, with a violation of the bankruptcy code, I don't know, no, it wouldn't be...
[04:17.760 --> 04:18.760]  That would cause a...
[04:18.760 --> 04:24.600]  That would create a cause of action, but I don't quite know what the cause of action
[04:24.600 --> 04:25.600]  would be titled.
[04:25.600 --> 04:29.600]  Randy, do you have an idea?
[04:29.600 --> 04:34.700]  Randy, where'd you go?
[04:34.700 --> 04:36.440]  Randy muted my mic again.
[04:36.440 --> 04:41.440]  Man, that gremlin.
[04:41.440 --> 04:45.320]  This would go for a motion for sanctions.
[04:45.320 --> 04:49.880]  Yes, good idea.
[04:49.880 --> 04:55.680]  And petition for restraining order.
[04:55.680 --> 05:04.040]  They apparently don't have much, they're not impressed by the federal judge or the bankruptcy
[05:04.040 --> 05:07.680]  judge, so maybe he'll impress them.
[05:07.680 --> 05:08.680]  Right.
[05:08.680 --> 05:09.680]  Yes.
[05:09.680 --> 05:19.120]  Since we've last talked, we had the lawyer that wasn't doing anything for us who we've
[05:19.120 --> 05:31.120]  kind of let go, and we've taken on new counsel, and she has set away those that would make
[05:31.120 --> 05:34.640]  Paul Bunyan blush.
[05:34.640 --> 05:35.640]  So she's been...
[05:35.640 --> 05:36.640]  That's nice.
[05:36.640 --> 05:45.000]  Yes, she's very, very smart, very knows the law, and she's not even a foreclosure attorney,
[05:45.000 --> 05:53.680]  but she knows practically everything we've discussed, and she's come up with where we
[05:53.680 --> 06:00.840]  left off with our last attorney who submitted some interrogatories, and of course, we got
[06:00.840 --> 06:08.280]  those back with nothing because we hadn't submitted any admissions, asking them for
[06:08.280 --> 06:10.920]  something to ask them about in interrogatory, so...
[06:10.920 --> 06:14.360]  So that would actually be pronounced interrogatories.
[06:14.360 --> 06:15.360]  Yes.
[06:15.360 --> 06:16.360]  Yes, sorry.
[06:16.360 --> 06:21.880]  In discovery, you've got rogs.
[06:21.880 --> 06:27.560]  The short term in the legal field for interrogatories is rogs.
[06:27.560 --> 06:37.320]  You've got a request for admissions, or RFAs, a request for production, RFP, and request
[06:37.320 --> 06:41.120]  for disclosure, RFD.
[06:41.120 --> 06:43.560]  That covers all your discoveries.
[06:43.560 --> 06:51.200]  Right, and that's where we're trying to head because we're looking at a declaratory judgment,
[06:51.200 --> 06:59.480]  summary judgment of the bank admits to not being the lender.
[06:59.480 --> 07:01.040]  She's looked at trying to go...
[07:01.040 --> 07:02.040]  Wait a minute.
[07:02.040 --> 07:03.040]  Hold on.
[07:03.040 --> 07:04.040]  This is all moot.
[07:04.040 --> 07:05.040]  Uh-huh.
[07:05.040 --> 07:11.560]  This should get a motion for declaratory judgment for summary judgment dismissal because it's
[07:11.560 --> 07:12.560]  all moot.
[07:12.560 --> 07:13.560]  Right.
[07:13.560 --> 07:24.000]  But what we were trying to do is get some...so the judge won't just take this and look at
[07:24.000 --> 07:26.680]  it and say we have no evidence of this.
[07:26.680 --> 07:33.040]  We were trying to get some admissions from the bank using the paperwork that they submitted
[07:33.040 --> 07:41.360]  to us, the QWR response, and all the letters they sent us prior or since our consultatory
[07:41.360 --> 07:46.840]  meetings have stopped trying to get a modification where they were closing and giving us a modification
[07:46.840 --> 07:49.760]  at the same time.
[07:49.760 --> 07:52.080]  They've sent us nothing about the case.
[07:52.080 --> 07:56.880]  All they send us are letters once a month telling us we owe them this and that if the
[07:56.880 --> 08:01.360]  bankruptcy discharges your debt that we're supposed to forget about the fact that they
[08:01.360 --> 08:03.360]  sent us this letter.
[08:03.360 --> 08:08.200]  No way, no way.
[08:08.200 --> 08:09.200]  This is harassment.
[08:09.200 --> 08:14.760]  Well, we've got about 13 of those letters since our consultatory meetings.
[08:14.760 --> 08:18.760]  Then that should be 13 sanctions.
[08:18.760 --> 08:24.200]  FDCPA, $1,500 bucks a pop.
[08:24.200 --> 08:25.200]  Yeah.
[08:25.200 --> 08:26.200]  Right.
[08:26.200 --> 08:31.920]  That's where she's looking at using that as well.
[08:31.920 --> 08:37.640]  We're also looking at the bank and Fannie Mae, who they're telling us is the lender.
[08:37.640 --> 08:41.960]  The bank is telling us they're the servicer for Fannie Mae.
[08:41.960 --> 08:50.440]  We're looking at the fact that they made reports on my wife's credit report claiming that the
[08:50.440 --> 08:57.000]  discharge of Chapter 7 discharged the debt, and Fannie Mae makes note that the account
[08:57.000 --> 09:00.080]  is closed.
[09:00.080 --> 09:07.400]  She's looking at the Fair Reporting Act, but these two should never have reported that
[09:07.400 --> 09:12.960]  on her credit report because they're not a party of interest in that map.
[09:12.960 --> 09:15.480]  Precisely.
[09:15.480 --> 09:16.480]  More sanctions.
[09:16.480 --> 09:17.480]  Right.
[09:17.480 --> 09:24.000]  She's looking at all these sanctions we're going to address, but in the long run, we're
[09:24.000 --> 09:28.760]  going to have to have a declaratory judgment so that we can get into a quiet pile, so all
[09:28.760 --> 09:29.960]  of the people.
[09:29.960 --> 09:36.080]  The one beautiful thing about, I'm sure you're familiar with Nancy Becker and her thing with
[09:36.080 --> 09:37.560]  Monkette County.
[09:37.560 --> 09:40.000]  That's the clerk who sued Merz.
[09:40.000 --> 09:41.360]  Yeah.
[09:41.360 --> 09:49.680]  And the Supreme Court's ruling on what Pennsylvania has is a very strict recording statute, so
[09:49.680 --> 09:59.120]  we have proof of the mortgage being assigned to several other banks.
[09:59.120 --> 10:03.240]  Is this prior to or after the discharge?
[10:03.240 --> 10:04.240]  Prior to.
[10:04.240 --> 10:05.240]  Okay.
[10:05.240 --> 10:06.240]  Okay.
[10:06.240 --> 10:10.520]  Well, let's go, let's revisit this moot.
[10:10.520 --> 10:14.560]  Wait, hold on, hold on, Steve.
[10:14.560 --> 10:24.600]  I think we missed something on, you have evidence of the transfer, were those transfers filed
[10:24.600 --> 10:28.320]  with the public record in accordance with Pennsylvania law?
[10:28.320 --> 10:29.320]  No.
[10:29.320 --> 10:30.320]  They were not.
[10:30.320 --> 10:31.320]  Good.
[10:31.320 --> 10:35.640]  They were primarily just through, we've just gotten certified letters from the insurance
[10:35.640 --> 10:43.680]  company who, through our mortgage insurance, that these mortgages were claimed to be assigned
[10:43.680 --> 10:50.160]  the mortgage and the sale price of that mortgage transfer.
[10:50.160 --> 10:57.880]  So through that, we're hoping to use the recording statute, which makes claim in Pennsylvania
[10:57.880 --> 11:03.760]  that all past, present, and future mortgages not recorded in the recorder of deeds office
[11:03.760 --> 11:07.600]  are fraudulent and void.
[11:07.600 --> 11:13.120]  And a question, what's the condition of your case?
[11:13.120 --> 11:20.600]  Are you the plaintiff, you the defendant, and if you're the defendant, are you a counterclaimant?
[11:20.600 --> 11:22.960]  We're just a defendant at this point.
[11:22.960 --> 11:27.280]  We haven't counterclaimed anything at this point.
[11:27.280 --> 11:30.680]  So I take it you're setting them up for that.
[11:30.680 --> 11:31.680]  Correct.
[11:31.680 --> 11:32.680]  Wunderbar.
[11:32.680 --> 11:36.400]  This makes it a lot more fun.
[11:36.400 --> 11:42.720]  Has your attorney mentioned sanctions?
[11:42.720 --> 11:45.240]  Not specifically the term sanctions.
[11:45.240 --> 11:46.800]  Then you should.
[11:46.800 --> 11:47.800]  Okay.
[11:47.800 --> 11:49.160]  Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[11:49.160 --> 11:54.800]  It sounds like her, his attorney's in stealth mode.
[11:54.800 --> 12:04.840]  Actually, she's trying to put together what the previous attorney has done and get us
[12:04.840 --> 12:12.600]  into substantive evidence so that we have something to go into this summary judgment
[12:12.600 --> 12:18.840]  for so that the judge will look at the bank admitting to the fact they are not the lender
[12:18.840 --> 12:22.640]  and that Fannie Mae is not mentioned on the note or the mortgage and they are not the
[12:22.640 --> 12:24.760]  lender.
[12:24.760 --> 12:30.680]  So once we get them to admit to that through admissions, which even if they don't admit
[12:30.680 --> 12:37.920]  to it, they still admit to it, we're hoping to use that along with the declaratory summary
[12:37.920 --> 12:43.240]  judgment to get the judge to see that the party bringing this foreclosure doesn't have
[12:43.240 --> 12:46.560]  it all in the fight.
[12:46.560 --> 12:47.560]  Okay.
[12:47.560 --> 12:55.720]  So we kind of bushwhacked you when you called in, did you have a question for us?
[12:55.720 --> 12:57.240]  Well, I did.
[12:57.240 --> 13:03.360]  My question was, I'm looking at this other attorney and I'm wondering if you guys have
[13:03.360 --> 13:14.000]  some way or rhyme or reason what to do about someone who we found out through our new attorney
[13:14.000 --> 13:19.000]  and she looked it up in the records that this attorney who we took on initially said he
[13:19.000 --> 13:26.080]  was the foreclosure guru, never actually filed a foreclosure case in the court.
[13:26.080 --> 13:27.640]  You never ever knew who filed a foreclosure.
[13:27.640 --> 13:35.800]  Well, when you say he's never filed a foreclosure case, did you mean to say that he's a foreclosure
[13:35.800 --> 13:43.840]  prevention or foreclosure...when you say foreclosure case, it tends to make me think
[13:43.840 --> 13:49.240]  that he's a foreclosure mill attorney, not a foreclosure defense attorney.
[13:49.240 --> 13:52.640]  Yeah, that's the way it appears.
[13:52.640 --> 13:54.680]  Okay.
[13:54.680 --> 14:07.220]  That would give you reason to sue him for malpractice and deceptive business practices.
[14:07.220 --> 14:13.080]  If he claims to be the guru, but he's never filed a case, how does he come about that
[14:13.080 --> 14:14.080]  claim?
[14:14.080 --> 14:19.600]  What he did by claiming that is he took money from you and did nothing.
[14:19.600 --> 14:21.040]  Right.
[14:21.040 --> 14:23.000]  That's malpractice, my friend.
[14:23.000 --> 14:31.240]  He made proactive statements to you that created in your mind a belief that he was an expert
[14:31.240 --> 14:39.400]  in the field of foreclosure when in fact he was no such thing and took money from you
[14:39.400 --> 14:43.320]  subsequent to that, that goes to fraud by nondisclosure.
[14:43.320 --> 14:46.320]  No, that goes to fraud per se.
[14:46.320 --> 14:50.520]  Per se, which is still malpractice.
[14:50.520 --> 14:59.160]  What we found out is that he's taking people on, he takes their case on and he strings
[14:59.160 --> 15:05.120]  them along and never gets it to the end if they usually hit the client.
[15:05.120 --> 15:09.800]  Okay, so then this is not an isolated event.
[15:09.800 --> 15:11.440]  Right.
[15:11.440 --> 15:13.000]  Okay.
[15:13.000 --> 15:16.920]  On behalf of yourself and all others similarly situated.
[15:16.920 --> 15:19.960]  Right, there you go.
[15:19.960 --> 15:26.640]  How does it feel to be a private attorney general?
[15:26.640 --> 15:31.160]  We hear a lot of stuff in the legal reform area about you can become a private attorney
[15:31.160 --> 15:35.560]  general and most of that stuff's nonsense.
[15:35.560 --> 15:43.560]  When a person sues for himself and all others similarly situated, the courts call that a
[15:43.560 --> 15:47.200]  private attorney general suit.
[15:47.200 --> 15:51.000]  But as far as I can tell, there is no such thing as a private attorney general other
[15:51.000 --> 15:57.840]  than that, just to clarify for those who are confused, but this is a great way to go after
[15:57.840 --> 15:58.840]  them.
[15:58.840 --> 15:59.840]  I concur.
[15:59.840 --> 16:15.640]  Okay, we may even take our new counsel and have her set that up because we've just been
[16:15.640 --> 16:19.240]  sitting here turning my wheels toward him.
[16:19.240 --> 16:27.000]  He's not once given us anything from his expertise in this field.
[16:27.000 --> 16:33.120]  His only formality in foreclosure is that he worked with the judge to set up the conciliatory
[16:33.120 --> 16:36.960]  process for people in foreclosure.
[16:36.960 --> 16:40.840]  This brings to mind Nemo Dat Quod Non Habet.
[16:40.840 --> 16:46.800]  No man gives what he does not have, as if he has no expertise, he cannot deliver it.
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[19:43.160 --> 19:48.920]  Don't mean to rub it in there, Chris, but yes, in regard to your question, if it were
[19:48.920 --> 19:58.240]  me, and an attorney took my money and did nothing for me, I would sue him into oblivion.
[19:58.240 --> 20:01.480]  I would try to end his career.
[20:01.480 --> 20:12.040]  Now, keep in mind, this does not go to all attorneys, I want to stress that.
[20:12.040 --> 20:20.320]  If your attorney is actively working on your case and doing his level best to get you remedy,
[20:20.320 --> 20:28.280]  don't sue him, but if you're giving thousands of dollars to anyone, I don't care if it's
[20:28.280 --> 20:33.140]  an attorney or a plumber, if you're giving thousands of dollars to anyone and they're
[20:33.140 --> 20:38.480]  not doing their job, get their attention.
[20:38.480 --> 20:45.200]  And the only thing that seems to get attorney's attentions are sanctions, bar grievances,
[20:45.200 --> 20:50.280]  and suits for malpractice that would go for doctors, lawyers, plumbers, anyone that holds
[20:50.280 --> 20:55.960]  a license of any sort.
[20:55.960 --> 20:59.200]  So yes, definitely speak to your...
[20:59.200 --> 21:07.520]  If you feel that you've been ripped off, no doubt, then definitely speak to your current
[21:07.520 --> 21:11.680]  counsel in regard to seeking remedy in that direction.
[21:11.680 --> 21:12.680]  Okay.
[21:12.680 --> 21:18.840]  Now, your current counsel may say that that's a separate issue and I'll require another
[21:18.840 --> 21:21.680]  retainer for that specific issue.
[21:21.680 --> 21:33.600]  Now you've got to balance your budget in relation to what do I want this potential outcome to
[21:33.600 --> 21:34.600]  come to.
[21:34.600 --> 21:43.380]  Now, in regard to the others similarly situated, it sounds to me like you have knowledge of
[21:43.380 --> 21:46.040]  others who have been similarly situated.
[21:46.040 --> 21:48.280]  Do you know which specific ones?
[21:48.280 --> 21:52.120]  I'm sure I could find out.
[21:52.120 --> 21:53.120]  Randy?
[21:53.120 --> 21:54.120]  Yeah.
[21:54.120 --> 22:02.800]  You could just do a search in the court records on his name and pretty well pull up all these
[22:02.800 --> 22:03.800]  cases.
[22:03.800 --> 22:09.720]  So our present counsel, she's been looking through...
[22:09.720 --> 22:14.000]  She has access to all that and she's been looking this up and this is how we came to
[22:14.000 --> 22:15.000]  terms with that.
[22:15.000 --> 22:16.000]  Good.
[22:16.000 --> 22:17.000]  Good.
[22:17.000 --> 22:18.000]  Go for broke, man.
[22:18.000 --> 22:19.000]  We're still in the fight, I think.
[22:19.000 --> 22:26.000]  I think it's to our advantage here, so hopefully she gets something done finally.
[22:26.000 --> 22:27.000]  Certainly.
[22:27.000 --> 22:28.000]  Good.
[22:28.000 --> 22:33.000]  I haven't heard from the bank at all.
[22:33.000 --> 22:36.160]  I mean, the bank is only sending us letters making the claim that they're not the lender
[22:36.160 --> 22:42.400]  and they're merely the servicer for Fannie Mae, who's the lender, which is a really interesting
[22:42.400 --> 22:50.120]  part because the bank has a mortgage assignment recorded in the recorder of deeds office from
[22:50.120 --> 22:56.920]  the original bank eight years ago, who's been out of business for four years when they're
[22:56.920 --> 22:58.560]  claiming Fannie Mae is the lender.
[22:58.560 --> 23:05.400]  Now, how would they have gotten the mortgage from a bank who's been closed for four years
[23:05.400 --> 23:08.320]  when they're claiming that the lender is Fannie Mae?
[23:08.320 --> 23:09.320]  Okay.
[23:09.320 --> 23:13.000]  Judge Schett in New York explained that.
[23:13.000 --> 23:16.320]  It's a vampire lender.
[23:16.320 --> 23:18.600]  They rise up from the dead.
[23:18.600 --> 23:27.760]  Yeah, that's what we're hoping some guy comes in and rags and bones with moss hanging from
[23:27.760 --> 23:36.480]  his nose, telling us that, yeah, I did, and the person who signed as the officer of MERS
[23:36.480 --> 23:38.480]  witnessed me doing this.
[23:38.480 --> 23:41.880]  I was going to ask you if MERS was involved.
[23:41.880 --> 23:42.880]  Yeah.
[23:42.880 --> 23:45.720]  This is a common practice for MERS.
[23:45.720 --> 23:51.600]  They generally tend to assign things from a dead guy to a living guy.
[23:51.600 --> 23:53.320]  I don't know how you can do that.
[23:53.320 --> 23:55.320]  Well, that's interesting too.
[23:55.320 --> 24:01.280]  I mean, when you look at the court case that's from Kansas and you look at when the CEO of
[24:01.280 --> 24:06.520]  MERS was on the stand and said he only acts for his members, the bank has been closed
[24:06.520 --> 24:12.320]  four years, is not a member of MERS, and for them to make an assignment four years after
[24:12.320 --> 24:16.400]  the bank is closed, acting as nominee for a bank that's closed is impossible.
[24:16.400 --> 24:17.400]  Yeah.
[24:17.400 --> 24:28.360]  And if you're paying attention to the discussion that we had regarding assignments earlier
[24:28.360 --> 24:32.440]  in the Glaskey case that bring it in.
[24:32.440 --> 24:33.440]  Yeah.
[24:33.440 --> 24:34.440]  Okay.
[24:34.440 --> 24:35.440]  Yeah.
[24:35.440 --> 24:46.880]  The way I read the code in Texas, if you file a document into a public record and that document
[24:46.880 --> 24:52.600]  has materially false statements in it, and you know it has materially false statements
[24:52.600 --> 24:58.160]  in it, and you intend that those statements be taken as true, that's a felony in the state
[24:58.160 --> 25:03.160]  of Texas.
[25:03.160 --> 25:11.800]  37.10 Texas penal code, most states are going to have a similar statute.
[25:11.800 --> 25:12.800]  Right.
[25:12.800 --> 25:19.400]  And I was kind of hoping that somewhere along the line by looking at the Fair Debt Collection
[25:19.400 --> 25:26.640]  Practice Act, you know, and having them make a statement on the credit report when they're
[25:26.640 --> 25:34.480]  not that person to do so, maybe that brings a little enlightenment in the courtroom as
[25:34.480 --> 25:35.480]  well.
[25:35.480 --> 25:49.480]  Well, I don't know if the FDCPA would go to the attempts to collect on a discharged debt.
[25:49.480 --> 25:56.680]  It would go to a entity attempting to collect on a mortgage when they are not the original
[25:56.680 --> 26:00.760]  mortgagee, a mortgagee.
[26:00.760 --> 26:02.840]  They become a debt collector.
[26:02.840 --> 26:04.100]  Right.
[26:04.100 --> 26:15.080]  And in this case, the discharge constitutes statutory estoppel from further collection.
[26:15.080 --> 26:22.120]  So that would go to the 15 U.S. Code 1692G, if I remember right.
[26:22.120 --> 26:28.600]  Well, 1692G would be a debt validation request.
[26:28.600 --> 26:29.600]  Okay.
[26:29.600 --> 26:38.240]  Then it's E. Right in there, right in there somewhere.
[26:38.240 --> 26:46.240]  15 U.S. CEDES, I've forgotten it now.
[26:46.240 --> 26:47.240]  1692G.
[26:47.240 --> 26:49.240]  1692G, yeah.
[26:49.240 --> 26:52.040]  1692 is not that long.
[26:52.040 --> 26:54.120]  It may behoove you to read the whole thing.
[26:54.120 --> 26:57.720]  You may find some remedy in there.
[26:57.720 --> 26:58.720]  Okay.
[26:58.720 --> 26:59.720]  All right.
[26:59.720 --> 27:00.720]  Well, thank you.
[27:00.720 --> 27:09.760]  Oh, and I did want to mention, Steve, the beauty of your Friday evening has been conveyed
[27:09.760 --> 27:16.160]  to me through my son who has moved to Austin and talking about the beautiful weather all
[27:16.160 --> 27:17.160]  the time.
[27:17.160 --> 27:22.960]  He actually is the editor and production person for the Good Morning Austin show.
[27:22.960 --> 27:23.960]  Wonderful.
[27:23.960 --> 27:24.960]  Wonderful.
[27:24.960 --> 27:25.960]  Yeah.
[27:25.960 --> 27:26.960]  All right.
[27:26.960 --> 27:29.080]  That tells me how nice you do that.
[27:29.080 --> 27:33.000]  Well, we might see him down on 6th Street some night.
[27:33.000 --> 27:34.200]  I'm sure you will.
[27:34.200 --> 27:35.200]  You can.
[27:35.200 --> 27:39.560]  Well, Chris, do you have anything else for us tonight?
[27:39.560 --> 27:41.400]  No, that was it.
[27:41.400 --> 27:42.400]  Thanks a lot, guys.
[27:42.400 --> 27:43.400]  I appreciate your input.
[27:43.400 --> 27:44.400]  Absolutely.
[27:44.400 --> 27:47.200]  Thank you for calling.
[27:47.200 --> 27:48.720]  And keep us updated on this.
[27:48.720 --> 27:49.960]  This is an interesting case.
[27:49.960 --> 27:52.640]  I'd like to see how this pans out.
[27:52.640 --> 27:53.640]  I will.
[27:53.640 --> 27:57.160]  As soon as we can get this rolling, I'm sure it's going to be another month or so when
[27:57.160 --> 28:03.160]  the mission's coming back and filing the declaratory judgment.
[28:03.160 --> 28:06.040]  But as soon as I hear anything, I'll definitely fill you guys in.
[28:06.040 --> 28:07.040]  Perfect.
[28:07.040 --> 28:08.040]  Good deal.
[28:08.040 --> 28:11.040]  Well, thanks for calling in tonight, Chris.
[28:11.040 --> 28:12.040]  Yeah.
[28:12.040 --> 28:13.040]  Thank you.
[28:13.040 --> 28:14.040]  Have a good night.
[28:14.040 --> 28:15.040]  You too.
[28:15.040 --> 28:18.920]  Now, let's go to the great state of Virginia and speak with Marcus.
[28:18.920 --> 28:19.920]  Hello, Marcus.
[28:19.920 --> 28:20.920]  Thank you for waiting.
[28:20.920 --> 28:21.920]  Thanks, Steve.
[28:21.920 --> 28:22.920]  Randy.
[28:22.920 --> 28:23.920]  Yeah.
[28:23.920 --> 28:34.760]  I just had a couple of issues with my defense attorney in order to bring you up.
[28:34.760 --> 28:35.760]  First of all...
[28:35.760 --> 28:38.760]  This is a criminal issue?
[28:38.760 --> 28:42.560]  That's part of the problem.
[28:42.560 --> 28:51.160]  I want to understand how the court views me as a person with certain rights or certain
[28:51.160 --> 28:52.160]  privileges.
[28:52.160 --> 28:58.360]  The court is always going to see you as someone with privileges.
[28:58.360 --> 28:59.360]  Always.
[28:59.360 --> 29:02.360]  Well, just privileges.
[29:02.360 --> 29:03.360]  Yes.
[29:03.360 --> 29:04.360]  Well...
[29:04.360 --> 29:11.440]  For example, traveling is a right.
[29:11.440 --> 29:13.480]  Driving is a privilege.
[29:13.480 --> 29:18.720]  A right cannot be revoked, but a privilege can.
[29:18.720 --> 29:25.120]  You cannot be charged with a criminal offense for exercising your right.
[29:25.120 --> 29:36.360]  But you can be charged criminally for the improper or unauthorized exercise of a privilege.
[29:36.360 --> 29:40.400]  And I hear the music in the background, and if you'll humor us for just a couple of minutes,
[29:40.400 --> 29:43.200]  we'll get back up on this on the other side of the break.
[29:43.200 --> 29:50.720]  We'll get you in line behind Mark and Texas and Jimmy and Maryland, and we'll be right
[29:50.720 --> 29:54.360]  back with Marcus and VA after this brief message.
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[33:30.320 --> 33:33.200]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks.
[33:33.200 --> 33:37.680]  When we left, we were speaking with Marcus in Virginia, and we'll return to Virginia,
[33:37.680 --> 33:38.680]  Marcus.
[33:38.680 --> 33:39.680]  Yes.
[33:39.680 --> 33:46.360]  So you're saying there's no way I can get them to recognize me or address me as a person
[33:46.360 --> 33:47.360]  of the rights?
[33:47.360 --> 33:50.640]  No, that's not at all what I'm saying.
[33:50.640 --> 33:53.120]  Your question was, how do they view you?
[33:53.120 --> 33:59.620]  They view you as a person or an individual with privileges because they can't generate
[33:59.620 --> 34:02.520]  any revenue off of your rights.
[34:02.520 --> 34:10.200]  They can only generate revenue off of privileges, so that's what they're going to see.
[34:10.200 --> 34:11.200]  Well, yeah.
[34:11.200 --> 34:13.200]  That's what they want to see.
[34:13.200 --> 34:19.000]  Well, how can I get them to address me as a person of rights, to get them to change
[34:19.000 --> 34:20.600]  their point of view?
[34:20.600 --> 34:22.360]  What rights do you have?
[34:22.360 --> 34:23.840]  This is a trick question.
[34:23.840 --> 34:25.480]  What rights do you have?
[34:25.480 --> 34:32.440]  Anything granted to me by the creator of the universe.
[34:32.440 --> 34:37.600]  You have no rights that you do not assert.
[34:37.600 --> 34:41.480]  You have no rights that you do not claim.
[34:41.480 --> 34:47.080]  You have only the rights that you claim and assert and exercise.
[34:47.080 --> 34:52.840]  The case law says rights belong to the belligerent litigant.
[34:52.840 --> 34:54.840]  Yes, they do.
[34:54.840 --> 34:55.840]  Okay.
[34:55.840 --> 35:02.840]  Now, what specific rights is it, or right, is it we're speaking about?
[35:02.840 --> 35:05.680]  We're speaking about?
[35:05.680 --> 35:12.240]  I'm entitled to have standing in this court before I even set one foot in it.
[35:12.240 --> 35:13.720]  No, no, no.
[35:13.720 --> 35:16.360]  What is the issue at bar?
[35:16.360 --> 35:19.360]  What have you been charged with?
[35:19.360 --> 35:26.120]  I don't want to get into that just yet.
[35:26.120 --> 35:31.320]  I just want to have an understanding with the court before I arrive.
[35:31.320 --> 35:32.320]  Okay.
[35:32.320 --> 35:43.480]  Before I have any interaction with any officers, even at the gate, at the door, I want an understanding
[35:43.480 --> 35:46.560]  that I have certain rights before I even go in there.
[35:46.560 --> 35:52.000]  If I don't, I'm going to say you're depriving me of my rights.
[35:52.000 --> 35:58.920]  Do you know what an understanding is?
[35:58.920 --> 36:09.120]  Black's Law Dictionary, the third definition of understanding in Black's Law second edition
[36:09.120 --> 36:19.520]  states that an understanding is an agreement, especially of an implied or tacit nature.
[36:19.520 --> 36:24.760]  It can be implied that you have rights.
[36:24.760 --> 36:30.960]  It can also be equally implied that you have privileges and that you have violated your
[36:30.960 --> 36:31.960]  privileges.
[36:31.960 --> 36:38.560]  You can't violate your own rights because God grants you your rights.
[36:38.560 --> 36:44.720]  And you can violate privileges because those come from the state and that's what they're
[36:44.720 --> 36:47.600]  going for.
[36:47.600 --> 36:54.360]  They're looking to generate revenue from you for a violation of some sort of privilege.
[36:54.360 --> 37:03.280]  So if there is a privilege that mimics a right, would it not behoove you to say that I was
[37:03.280 --> 37:14.160]  not exercising a privilege, rather I was exercising a right?
[37:14.160 --> 37:16.280]  That was not a rhetorical question.
[37:16.280 --> 37:17.280]  Yeah.
[37:17.280 --> 37:27.400]  Well, that's before we even get into the case, you know, I have to pass through that door.
[37:27.400 --> 37:28.400]  Right.
[37:28.400 --> 37:29.600]  But that wasn't my question.
[37:29.600 --> 37:38.160]  My question is, if you have a right or if there is a privilege that mimics a right,
[37:38.160 --> 37:40.320]  would it not behoove you?
[37:40.320 --> 37:47.560]  Would it not be to your advantage to say, I was not exercising any kind of privilege,
[37:47.560 --> 37:55.760]  I was enjoying and exercising a right and who on God's green earth are you to limit
[37:55.760 --> 38:01.480]  my exercise or restrict my exercise of a right?
[38:01.480 --> 38:11.640]  Wait a minute, Marcus, I think I understand where you're going.
[38:11.640 --> 38:23.080]  And we actually addressed this earlier, hold on, when we were reading Jenkins, Jenkins
[38:23.080 --> 38:31.560]  and Jenkins, the court ruled that you cannot come to the court for a declaration of your
[38:31.560 --> 38:43.440]  rights and you're asking for something that public officials have no duty to give you.
[38:43.440 --> 38:47.680]  You're asking them to tell you what your rights are.
[38:47.680 --> 38:50.880]  They have no duty to do that and they're not going to.
[38:50.880 --> 39:00.600]  I'm not saying that, I'm saying that they should, I want them to address me as a person.
[39:00.600 --> 39:01.600]  Okay.
[39:01.600 --> 39:05.760]  It's entitled to the right, all right.
[39:05.760 --> 39:07.760]  How would they do that?
[39:07.760 --> 39:17.160]  Well, let's say instead of just calling me, you know, Mark Butler, call me Mr. Butler
[39:17.160 --> 39:25.640]  because Mark Butler is the one that, the name might be on some state ID someplace or certificate.
[39:25.640 --> 39:28.080]  I want to be addressed as Mr. Butler.
[39:28.080 --> 39:35.080]  Well, all you have to do is direct them to address you that way and normally they will.
[39:35.080 --> 39:37.080]  All right.
[39:37.080 --> 39:42.720]  But with the understanding that I have certain rights, I'm not just.
[39:42.720 --> 39:43.720]  That you can't do.
[39:43.720 --> 39:46.600]  That you play with certain privileges.
[39:46.600 --> 39:51.280]  They have no duty to enter into that understanding with you.
[39:51.280 --> 39:55.520]  Well, as my servant, I would think that they would.
[39:55.520 --> 39:59.240]  If I'm the master and they're the servant.
[39:59.240 --> 40:00.240]  Yeah.
[40:00.240 --> 40:01.240]  Okay.
[40:01.240 --> 40:08.800]  You're asking for what you think they should do, but they must only do what they are statutorily
[40:08.800 --> 40:17.240]  required to do, so where is their statutory requirement to do that?
[40:17.240 --> 40:23.640]  See, that's the problem.
[40:23.640 --> 40:29.960]  We can't compel a public official to do something because we believe it's right.
[40:29.960 --> 40:39.240]  The only way we can compel them is with statute, rule, or regulation.
[40:39.240 --> 40:47.760]  You're asking for something that they won't give you and you can't compel from them.
[40:47.760 --> 40:55.560]  What you can compel from them is that they abide by all of your rights.
[40:55.560 --> 41:04.320]  Or if they don't, then you get to thump them good, but you can't get a preemptive agreement
[41:04.320 --> 41:13.600]  from them to do one thing or another.
[41:13.600 --> 41:16.400]  I think you're asking for something that's just not available.
[41:16.400 --> 41:17.680]  Did we lose him?
[41:17.680 --> 41:18.680]  We lost Mark.
[41:18.680 --> 41:19.680]  I think we lost Mark.
[41:19.680 --> 41:22.680]  Oh, no wonder he wasn't responding.
[41:22.680 --> 41:23.680]  Yeah.
[41:23.680 --> 41:25.280]  I don't see him on the call board anymore.
[41:25.280 --> 41:26.280]  Yeah.
[41:26.280 --> 41:27.280]  Okay.
[41:27.280 --> 41:28.280]  Well...
[41:28.280 --> 41:32.320]  Well, call back in, Marcus, and we'll pick you up when you call back in.
[41:32.320 --> 41:36.120]  But meanwhile, let's go to Texas and speak with Mark.
[41:36.120 --> 41:37.120]  Hello, Mark.
[41:37.120 --> 41:41.280]  I understand that you've got a question regarding statutes of limitations.
[41:41.280 --> 41:42.280]  I do.
[41:42.280 --> 41:47.640]  You guys hear my voice every Friday night for quite some time, and I thank you both.
[41:47.640 --> 41:51.400]  You've been more of an inspiration to me than you might actually know.
[41:51.400 --> 41:56.800]  And I actually, in the interest of being as brief as I possibly can, I want to ask you
[41:56.800 --> 41:59.560]  guys a multi-part question.
[41:59.560 --> 42:02.280]  And I just went ahead and I've looked this out.
[42:02.280 --> 42:06.360]  It might take me about probably two minutes to read through it, but if I may, just to
[42:06.360 --> 42:10.960]  get you guys abreast to where I am as I'm representing myself, pro se, against...
[42:10.960 --> 42:15.320]  Well, you've got one minute and 47, 46, 45 seconds.
[42:15.320 --> 42:16.320]  All right.
[42:16.320 --> 42:17.320]  Here we go.
[42:17.320 --> 42:18.320]  Let's do it.
[42:18.320 --> 42:31.160]  I won a statute, a motion against the plaintiff's cause of action, basically a motion with the
[42:31.160 --> 42:37.800]  statute of limitations defense, and I won that unopposed in June of 2014 after the complaint
[42:37.800 --> 42:43.800]  actually said that I had a loan which was accelerated in 2007 and the last payment was
[42:43.800 --> 42:44.800]  in 2007.
[42:44.800 --> 42:50.840]  This complaint was filed in 2013, more than six years past the statute of limitations.
[42:50.840 --> 42:54.840]  Now, as far as this goes, I was like a deer in the headlights when I got this complaint.
[42:54.840 --> 43:00.360]  I was talking to a servicer about doing some kind of deed and move a foreclosure originally.
[43:00.360 --> 43:07.560]  So I responded late to this complaint and in my response, I did not make a statute of
[43:07.560 --> 43:10.520]  limitations affirmative defense, but I...
[43:10.520 --> 43:11.520]  Doesn't matter.
[43:11.520 --> 43:12.520]  Okay.
[43:12.520 --> 43:15.040]  Subject matter jurisdiction.
[43:15.040 --> 43:16.040]  Yeah.
[43:16.040 --> 43:21.200]  Now, that'll be part of my question here in just a moment, because we talked about this,
[43:21.200 --> 43:22.200]  gentlemen.
[43:22.200 --> 43:25.880]  I'll tell you, I did question fraudulent assignment in the original response.
[43:25.880 --> 43:33.800]  I have a very obviously fraudulent assignment, and I also mentioned, this was to my detriment,
[43:33.800 --> 43:39.520]  but I mentioned a loss mitigation payment attempted in 2009, this is a return.
[43:39.520 --> 43:45.720]  We'll pick it up, pick that back.
[43:45.720 --> 43:48.240]  Let's recap that on the other side.
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[47:28.880 --> 47:30.360]  No, I don't.
[47:30.360 --> 47:31.920]  You need one.
[47:31.920 --> 47:38.520]  Yes, and I have one more experiment I need to do before I finalize the formula.
[47:38.520 --> 47:40.000]  Ah, lovely.
[47:40.000 --> 47:45.640]  I'm putting peroxide in it.
[47:45.640 --> 47:54.240]  What the peroxide does, you see, this is pure soap, there's no fillers, a bar of this soap
[47:54.240 --> 48:01.120]  will last about ten times as long as a normal bar of soap, so it's somewhat hard.
[48:01.120 --> 48:07.640]  And the next formula, I'll put peroxide in it so that you wet it slightly and set your
[48:07.640 --> 48:13.440]  hand on the bar and you can feel it foam up under your hand.
[48:13.440 --> 48:19.840]  It makes it, it gives it a real silky, smooth, when you rub it on your skin, the peroxide
[48:19.840 --> 48:25.000]  bubbles up under your hand, so it makes it glide and makes it feel silky smooth.
[48:25.000 --> 48:26.000]  Very nice.
[48:26.000 --> 48:34.040]  But in order to test it, I have to buy a 50 gallon drum, a 50% food grade peroxide, and
[48:34.040 --> 48:36.240]  I haven't got that done yet.
[48:36.240 --> 48:37.240]  Ah, okay.
[48:37.240 --> 48:41.800]  I do have some I need to send out, I've got a couple people that want me to send them.
[48:41.800 --> 48:47.640]  Deb's going to get me some addresses for the people who contributed to the network.
[48:47.640 --> 48:52.840]  I'll use the one I have, it's got colloidal silver in it.
[48:52.840 --> 48:57.320]  I don't like to experiment with two things at once because I want to see exactly how
[48:57.320 --> 48:58.320]  it functions.
[48:58.320 --> 49:03.280]  But the colloidal silver works great, I don't use deodorant.
[49:03.280 --> 49:06.240]  And you can only smell me from about three feet away.
[49:06.240 --> 49:07.240]  Lovely.
[49:07.240 --> 49:09.520]  We're excited to know that.
[49:09.520 --> 49:16.040]  Actually, it does work really well for that purpose because you know, silver has that
[49:16.040 --> 49:18.920]  effect on bacteria, fungus, and...
[49:18.920 --> 49:19.920]  It sure does.
[49:19.920 --> 49:20.920]  It sure does.
[49:20.920 --> 49:21.920]  Yeah.
[49:21.920 --> 49:26.920]  Anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-everything else.
[49:26.920 --> 49:33.360]  But anyway, didn't mean to put you on the spot with soap, but you do make pretty good
[49:33.360 --> 49:34.360]  soap.
[49:34.360 --> 49:40.880]  So, Mark in Texas, sorry to hold you up, but statutes of limitations as an affirmative
[49:40.880 --> 49:41.880]  defense.
[49:41.880 --> 49:42.880]  Yeah.
[49:42.880 --> 49:52.200]  I basically said, you know, I want a motion to dismiss Plaintiff's Cause of Action June
[49:52.200 --> 49:53.200]  2014.
[49:53.200 --> 49:58.400]  And this is clearly, you know, the situation in which their complaint was filed past the
[49:58.400 --> 49:59.400]  statute of limitations.
[49:59.400 --> 50:01.560]  What I was bringing up here...
[50:01.560 --> 50:03.560]  Let me give you some food for thought.
[50:03.560 --> 50:04.560]  Okay.
[50:04.560 --> 50:10.160]  How well a researcher are you on case law?
[50:10.160 --> 50:15.760]  I have a little bit of an access to, I think, LexisNexis, if you think, online.
[50:15.760 --> 50:16.760]  Perfect.
[50:16.760 --> 50:17.760]  Perfect.
[50:17.760 --> 50:18.760]  And who will start?
[50:18.760 --> 50:19.760]  Yeah.
[50:19.760 --> 50:20.760]  Okay.
[50:20.760 --> 50:26.960]  Here, if you have access to Lexis, here are some search terms.
[50:26.960 --> 50:28.880]  Okay.
[50:28.880 --> 50:38.520]  Cause of action and expired.
[50:38.520 --> 50:44.680]  What I have found in searching Lexis for case law in support of the affirmative defense
[50:44.680 --> 50:52.120]  of statute of limitations for the passing of time is that once the statute of limitations
[50:52.120 --> 50:58.560]  has run, the cause of action itself has expired.
[50:58.560 --> 51:06.000]  So if there is no cause of action before the court, that would be...
[51:06.000 --> 51:11.120]  That would call, clearly call for a plea to the jurisdiction of the court.
[51:11.120 --> 51:12.120]  I know.
[51:12.120 --> 51:13.120]  We've talked about this.
[51:13.120 --> 51:18.000]  If there is no cause of action before the court, what does the court have jurisdiction
[51:18.000 --> 51:19.000]  over?
[51:19.000 --> 51:20.000]  Nothing.
[51:20.000 --> 51:22.280]  There's nothing there.
[51:22.280 --> 51:27.320]  Though it appears there's something there, it is not viable.
[51:27.320 --> 51:31.920]  There is no cause of action before the court because the cause of action expired with the
[51:31.920 --> 51:34.920]  passing of time.
[51:34.920 --> 51:36.000]  That I get.
[51:36.000 --> 51:40.360]  And there's a lot of case law on that.
[51:40.360 --> 51:44.720]  I couldn't actually find any in the state where I have this action.
[51:44.720 --> 51:48.760]  I know the Senate, Texas, and I have some citations from a very good...
[51:48.760 --> 51:50.040]  Oh, that's right.
[51:50.040 --> 51:53.160]  Your cause is in Arkansas, isn't it?
[51:53.160 --> 51:54.160]  That's right.
[51:54.160 --> 51:55.160]  Yes.
[51:55.160 --> 51:56.160]  Okay.
[51:56.160 --> 52:01.080]  So that's what I made to continue, and I'll tie this in with a question in just a moment
[52:01.080 --> 52:04.200]  because I absolutely love your thought.
[52:04.200 --> 52:08.200]  You gave that to me back in December, actually, and it was a great idea.
[52:08.200 --> 52:10.880]  It makes sense.
[52:10.880 --> 52:20.360]  So I'm saying I responded late to their complaint, and the judge, I think, ended up accepting
[52:20.360 --> 52:21.360]  it.
[52:21.360 --> 52:25.200]  I didn't question statute of limitations in that response.
[52:25.200 --> 52:27.080]  But I did question a fraudulent assignment.
[52:27.080 --> 52:29.280]  I didn't even realize I'd done that.
[52:29.280 --> 52:31.000]  And I heard you guys talking about assignments earlier.
[52:31.000 --> 52:35.720]  I have one from an original lender that was out of business in 2008 that was supposedly
[52:35.720 --> 52:37.600]  done in 2013.
[52:37.600 --> 52:40.160]  So to keep going.
[52:40.160 --> 52:47.200]  Within 60 days of my winning the dismissal of plaintiff's cause of action, an attorney
[52:47.200 --> 52:50.560]  that I actually work with looked at my case a little bit.
[52:50.560 --> 52:53.560]  He doesn't know anywhere near what you guys know about this.
[52:53.560 --> 52:57.720]  But he looked at it and he said, hey, this is beyond the statute of limitations.
[52:57.720 --> 53:02.400]  He had me file a motion to strike those answers and file general denials.
[53:02.400 --> 53:08.920]  And then I filed a motion for my affirmative defense or motion to dismiss based on my affirmative
[53:08.920 --> 53:10.920]  defense of statute of limitations.
[53:10.920 --> 53:13.800]  It sat on the judge's desk unopposed for 90 days.
[53:13.800 --> 53:15.960]  I have proof of service.
[53:15.960 --> 53:18.960]  And the judge signed my order and closed the case.
[53:18.960 --> 53:24.440]  I was reopened shortly after that in a motion to reopen.
[53:24.440 --> 53:30.640]  In that motion, I mentioned this last time, the plaintiffs lied saying that the first
[53:30.640 --> 53:36.800]  acceleration was in 2010, which is directly conflicting their original complaint.
[53:36.800 --> 53:40.680]  And they also failed to include some exhibits showing payments, et cetera.
[53:40.680 --> 53:41.680]  Objection.
[53:41.680 --> 53:44.720]  Was this an attorney who lied?
[53:44.720 --> 53:46.080]  Yes.
[53:46.080 --> 53:47.840]  Objection.
[53:47.840 --> 53:49.960]  Things cannot lie.
[53:49.960 --> 53:50.960]  Legally impossible.
[53:50.960 --> 53:51.960]  OK, I got it.
[53:51.960 --> 53:52.960]  They commit aggravated perjury?
[53:52.960 --> 53:53.960]  Am I right?
[53:53.960 --> 54:00.480]  Aggravated perjury, fraudulent or negligent misrepresentation of material facts, so on
[54:00.480 --> 54:01.480]  so forth.
[54:01.480 --> 54:02.480]  Got it.
[54:02.480 --> 54:03.480]  OK.
[54:03.480 --> 54:04.480]  Perfect.
[54:04.480 --> 54:11.640]  And I've already looked that up in that state at the class C felony, so important.
[54:11.640 --> 54:17.040]  I didn't respond or oppose their motion to reopen at the time because I thought I might
[54:17.040 --> 54:20.960]  actually hire an attorney who asked me to put it all together in a PDF and send it to
[54:20.960 --> 54:21.960]  them.
[54:21.960 --> 54:26.120]  Didn't know a thing really at that time, but I've been listening to you guys for a while
[54:26.120 --> 54:30.680]  and around that time, I woke up and I started to read the code and I started to read up
[54:30.680 --> 54:31.680]  on things.
[54:31.680 --> 54:32.680]  Thanks to you guys.
[54:32.680 --> 54:39.200]  Really great thanks to you, Randy and Steve and Jeff, who calls in every once in a while.
[54:39.200 --> 54:45.680]  I found two statutes as I started researching the property code, one relative to the extension
[54:45.680 --> 54:50.400]  and the maturity date, mentioned this on the show before, and I included it in the latest
[54:50.400 --> 54:51.400]  motion.
[54:51.400 --> 54:57.440]  But basically, they note that payments made to a third party do not toll the statute of
[54:57.440 --> 54:59.240]  limitations.
[54:59.240 --> 55:02.920]  And then I added that and I filed a new motion.
[55:02.920 --> 55:08.320]  Now, the attorneys bringing the suit, whom I noted were, I said they lied, but they committed
[55:08.320 --> 55:13.680]  aggravated perjury and I'll do that in the next talks I'll file if I do, but they were
[55:13.680 --> 55:16.880]  fired and now there are new attorneys.
[55:16.880 --> 55:21.840]  And this is why I wanted to ask about the statute of limitations, the fence, because
[55:21.840 --> 55:25.880]  they were saying it was not available as it was not brought up in the answer.
[55:25.880 --> 55:31.080]  And I believe you guys have already shared right by the end of my thought on here by
[55:31.080 --> 55:38.200]  saying if they didn't have sufficient capacity based on the prima facie face value of the
[55:38.200 --> 55:45.480]  original complaint, then they don't have sufficient capacity to invoke the jurisdiction of the
[55:45.480 --> 55:46.480]  court.
[55:46.480 --> 55:49.360]  And the court has no jurisdiction over this subject of jurisdiction.
[55:49.360 --> 55:50.360]  Correct.
[55:50.360 --> 55:51.360]  Correct.
[55:51.360 --> 55:53.720]  Well, there's no subject matter before the court.
[55:53.720 --> 55:55.600]  That's the whole point.
[55:55.600 --> 56:03.880]  If there's, if time has, if enough time has passed to, for the statute of limitations
[56:03.880 --> 56:08.500]  to run, the cause of action itself has expired.
[56:08.500 --> 56:15.500]  If the cause of action itself has expired by proxy, there is no subject matter before
[56:15.500 --> 56:16.500]  the court.
[56:16.500 --> 56:19.720]  So if there is no subject matter before the court, what does the court have jurisdiction
[56:19.720 --> 56:20.720]  over?
[56:20.720 --> 56:24.560]  The court would have only limited jurisdiction and that jurisdiction would be limited to
[56:24.560 --> 56:26.520]  dismissing the plaintiff's case.
[56:26.520 --> 56:27.520]  Yeah.
[56:27.520 --> 56:32.360]  They, they can bring no controversy before it to the court.
[56:32.360 --> 56:40.200]  The only way they can get standing is to bring a controversy, but their controversy or their
[56:40.200 --> 56:43.480]  potential for a controversy has expired.
[56:43.480 --> 56:45.040]  Yep.
[56:45.040 --> 56:51.200]  I think, I think that much is clear, but it gets a little hairy in one sense here in that
[56:51.200 --> 56:54.720]  I mentioned that I've attempted to make a payment and this is where I wanted to ask
[56:54.720 --> 56:59.920]  you guys since I heard you earlier talking about assignments and fraudulent assignments
[56:59.920 --> 57:05.680]  and a recent case, which I wrote down but don't have in front of me, but I promise you
[57:05.680 --> 57:06.680]  I wrote it.
[57:06.680 --> 57:09.680]  I just, I just don't have it in my mind.
[57:09.680 --> 57:15.300]  In any event, I'll file a plea to the jurisdiction without any doubt on the face value of their
[57:15.300 --> 57:16.300]  complaint.
[57:16.300 --> 57:23.000]  They have no standing or no, no capacity to invoke the jurisdiction of the court.
[57:23.000 --> 57:29.520]  So then how would you know that you attempted to make a payment to the proper party?
[57:29.520 --> 57:35.560]  How would I know that I, well, here's, here's the thing there.
[57:35.560 --> 57:37.800]  I'm not 100% sure what you're asking.
[57:37.800 --> 57:38.800]  How would I know?
[57:38.800 --> 57:39.800]  Okay.
[57:39.800 --> 57:40.800]  Let me, let me explain what I'm asking.
[57:40.800 --> 57:41.800]  Okay.
[57:41.800 --> 57:42.800]  Please.
[57:42.800 --> 57:49.960]  You have got to have some, some type of proof that you're paying the right guy because if
[57:49.960 --> 57:54.640]  you're paying the wrong guy, the right guy is bound to stand up and say, Hey, I haven't
[57:54.640 --> 57:55.640]  been paid.
[57:55.640 --> 58:01.360]  Well, I sent my payments to George, but George isn't the right party.
[58:01.360 --> 58:05.960]  Frank is now Frank's saying I haven't been paid.
[58:05.960 --> 58:10.840]  So with, with the fouled up assignment, how are you to know you're making payments to
[58:10.840 --> 58:12.520]  the right person?
[58:12.520 --> 58:18.840]  What I'm saying in that is that that attempt to make a payment is moot.
[58:18.840 --> 58:23.840]  It doesn't matter.
[58:23.840 --> 58:26.040]  There is no relevance.
[58:26.040 --> 58:31.920]  Well, I see we're, we're fixing to go to break and we'll get back on that right after this
[58:31.920 --> 58:32.920]  break folks.
[58:32.920 --> 58:34.200]  And this is the top of the hour breaks.
[58:34.200 --> 58:36.200]  We'll be back after the news.
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[01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:33.280]  In the news, a post office in Colorado has been found using hidden cameras to record
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[01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.880]  Fox 31 Denver investigative reporter Chris Hulsney confirmed that hidden cameras and
[01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.680]  recorders owned and operated by the United States Postal Inspection Service were being
[01:00:44.680 --> 01:00:47.420]  used in Golden, Colorado, outside of Denver.
[01:00:47.420 --> 01:00:51.800]  The camera was found hidden inside a utilities box around Thanksgiving 2014.
[01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:56.560]  A spokesperson for Postal Inspection Service declined to confirm or deny whether the camera
[01:00:56.560 --> 01:00:58.840]  was collecting data for specific cases.
[01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:05.600]  After the camera was initially reported, it was removed.
[01:01:05.600 --> 01:01:09.320]  A new bill that would restrict the ability to film the police and create a dangerous
[01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:13.200]  definition of media has been introduced to the Texas House of Representatives.
[01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:18.280]  Texas House Bill 2918 would require individuals filming or recording the police to be at least
[01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:23.000]  25 feet away, and those who are open carrying would need to be more than 100 feet away.
[01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.680]  The bill also sets the standard for filming police to only radio or TV media outlets that
[01:01:28.680 --> 01:01:36.560]  hold a license that has been issued by the Federal Communications Commission.
[01:01:36.560 --> 01:01:40.880]  A new Texas bill would grant Attorney General Ken Paxton's office the ability to allow or
[01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.080]  disallow local initiatives.
[01:01:43.080 --> 01:01:47.640]  Texas House Bill 540 was introduced by Representative Bill King and would require any referendum
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[01:01:52.120 --> 01:01:53.760]  Attorney General's office.
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[01:02:46.160 --> 01:02:51.080]  This is the Liberty Beat for Friday, March 13, 2015.
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[01:03:00.520 --> 01:03:30.080]  Welcome
[01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.000]  back to Rural Law Radio, folks.
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.360]  You're listening to Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, and we were visiting with Mark in Texas.
[01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:43.440]  Now Mark, Randy and I had a little bit of discussion over the break, not much, but all
[01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:44.680]  it needs.
[01:03:44.680 --> 01:03:55.320]  Would you agree that making a payment or attempting to make a payment does not toll the statute
[01:03:55.320 --> 01:04:00.320]  of limitations or restart the limitation period?
[01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.360]  Are you asking me?
[01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.240]  Say it again.
[01:04:05.240 --> 01:04:11.640]  There is a, in this state where I have this action, and I believe in most, I'm not sure,
[01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:17.160]  but generally if you make a payment or if you even have a discussion with someone acknowledging
[01:04:17.160 --> 01:04:25.760]  the debt in this state, then that tolls the statute of limitations in terms of the general
[01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:26.760]  code.
[01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:31.280]  But what I found is something specific in the real estate code in a state which is not
[01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:33.640]  necessarily what I guess we call a recording state.
[01:04:33.640 --> 01:04:43.640]  Arkansas is nowhere near as great as Pennsylvania in that case, from what I read a little bit.
[01:04:43.640 --> 01:04:52.280]  Before you go much further, let me add some clarity to the term tolling statute of limitations.
[01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:59.720]  A period of statute of limitations can be tolled so long as you are within that period.
[01:04:59.720 --> 01:05:07.480]  Let's say there's a two-year statute of limitations on suing for personal injury.
[01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:16.920]  If within that two-year period something happens, that would push the pause button, AKA toll
[01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:19.080]  that statute of limitations.
[01:05:19.080 --> 01:05:28.560]  However, once that statute of limitations has run, there's no tolling it.
[01:05:28.560 --> 01:05:33.760]  Nor can you restart that statute of limitations.
[01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:40.040]  You're telling me that they are suing six years outside that statute of limitations.
[01:05:40.040 --> 01:05:46.720]  Now tell me what would toll that time period that has already passed?
[01:05:46.720 --> 01:05:52.080]  What would restart that that has already passed?
[01:05:52.080 --> 01:05:54.920]  Here's the argument that's being given.
[01:05:54.920 --> 01:06:01.520]  In the original complaint where they really probably didn't have actual accounting, I
[01:06:01.520 --> 01:06:06.600]  believe that their client is probably a debt buyer that's a servicer, which actually signed
[01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:08.600]  as a VP of MERS.
[01:06:08.600 --> 01:06:11.280]  If they have a client at all?
[01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.280]  If they have a client at all, yes.
[01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:14.280]  Okay, good.
[01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:15.280]  You've seen a lot.
[01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:22.600]  In this case, just to clarify, and we've spoken about this when I've talked to you guys before,
[01:06:22.600 --> 01:06:24.760]  but I'll make it completely clear.
[01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:25.760]  Okay.
[01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:33.640]  The original complaint says, loan accelerated in 2007, they filed this complaint in 2013.
[01:06:33.640 --> 01:06:39.040]  Six years, if I was smart and I knew what I know now, I would have immediately filed
[01:06:39.040 --> 01:06:43.480]  a motion to dismiss based on the statute of limitations, and that would have been the
[01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:44.480]  end of it.
[01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:45.480]  Nobody would have said a thing.
[01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:48.480]  They wouldn't have been able to do a thing.
[01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:52.240]  Keeping the subject matter jurisdiction would have been appropriate too, as you brought
[01:06:52.240 --> 01:06:54.440]  it up.
[01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:55.840]  I didn't mention then.
[01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:00.480]  Now, when I responded, I was a guy who was like a deer in the headlights.
[01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:06.640]  I do not know how to assert my rights to reflect on the theme you guys used earlier, and I
[01:07:06.640 --> 01:07:08.800]  love what you have to say about it.
[01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:10.960]  You don't have them if you don't assert them.
[01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:11.960]  That's right.
[01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:18.440]  They're given by the creator only if you choose to stand up and be part of that.
[01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:19.440]  Correct.
[01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.520]  I intend to do it, I promise.
[01:07:22.520 --> 01:07:28.040]  I tell you, in this case, I noted at the time just simply that they were wrong.
[01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:30.560]  I wanted to tell the judge, these guys are wrong.
[01:07:30.560 --> 01:07:39.400]  The last payment I made or attempted to make was not in 2007, but it was in 2010.
[01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:48.400]  Here is a Western Union return receipt showing a payment that was returned by, if you want
[01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:55.200]  to name names, you might as well do it, returned by Chase now.
[01:07:55.200 --> 01:08:02.400]  If Chase was my original lender, I believe that might have told the statute of limitations.
[01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:05.680]  They're trying to keep it just that simple as they make their arguments in front of the
[01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:06.680]  judge.
[01:08:06.680 --> 01:08:11.120]  They're just completely whitewashing, not even paying attention to the statutes that
[01:08:11.120 --> 01:08:14.400]  I've put in my motion.
[01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:19.440]  What I read is this, or to explain, and this is the second part of my question anyway about
[01:08:19.440 --> 01:08:22.200]  standing and challenging standing.
[01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:29.880]  My original loan was done with a subprime lender called Fremont Financial, and Fremont
[01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.080]  Financial did this in 2005.
[01:08:33.080 --> 01:08:41.720]  I have a document that was sent to me by mail from Fremont which says this, and you'll appreciate
[01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:50.520]  how vague this is, it said, your promissory note, your loan has been assigned, sold, transferred
[01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:57.840]  from Fremont to Chase effective on 3-1-2006.
[01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:04.960]  They were saying that my present servicer was Fremont, and now it would be Chase.
[01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:10.760]  I don't know if we're saying that they decided to stop servicing it, or if they actually
[01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:11.760]  sold it.
[01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:14.800]  Now later on, as I looked at documents that I have that have been-
[01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.520]  Well, they wouldn't have sold the loan, I don't think.
[01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.000]  They would have sold the rights to servicing.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.760]  Rights to servicing, okay.
[01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:31.960]  Now, if they sold the rights to servicing, that could be an interesting thing.
[01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:37.440]  That might mean that a payment made in 2009 might actually hold the statute of limitations
[01:09:37.440 --> 01:09:43.160]  because a payment made to Chase could very well have been a payment to Fremont, but-
[01:09:43.160 --> 01:09:51.480]  Let me ask you this, did the statute of limitations pass or did it run prior to your attempt to
[01:09:51.480 --> 01:09:55.760]  make this payment?
[01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:56.760]  It did not.
[01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:57.760]  Okay.
[01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:04.000]  This is vague in that they say that the acceleration was in 2007.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.160]  I have something a little earlier than that showing the first acceleration where it would
[01:10:08.160 --> 01:10:14.600]  have started to run, but in 2009, I attempted to make a payment to Chase.
[01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:21.560]  What's rather interesting here is Fremont was out of business in 2008, and after that,
[01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:28.680]  they have a different name altogether, and Chase might possibly have been involved in
[01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:36.120]  servicing that, but whenever I look at the assignment made in 2013, the assignment is
[01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:43.600]  Fremont via Merz to US Bank as a trustee for JP Motor Chase.
[01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:48.760]  I believe that is, as Randy had brought up before, and I'm going to ask you guys if you
[01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:53.520]  still agree, I believe that's something where we have a dead man doing something and they
[01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.840]  cannot do that.
[01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:01.800]  In that state, Merz does not have standing to make any assignments at all.
[01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:07.800]  The Merz VP, as we all know, everybody's a Merz VP, even though Merz has no employees,
[01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:13.880]  the Merz VP who signed this assignment is actually someone who's noted as a known noble
[01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:14.880]  signer.
[01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.760]  I don't know exactly how to bring all that out, but I found it online, and this person
[01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:24.560]  is actually an employee of the presently alleged servicer.
[01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:25.560]  Okay.
[01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:26.560]  Hold on.
[01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:29.600]  I don't know how to bring that out.
[01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:40.160]  Send a letter to Merz asking Merz to confirm that this person is in fact a vice president
[01:11:40.160 --> 01:11:45.880]  or secretary, whatever, for Merz by providing you with evidence of power of attorney for
[01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.160]  this person to sign for Merz.
[01:11:49.160 --> 01:11:50.600]  Okay.
[01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:54.800]  You won't get it, at least you hope you don't get it.
[01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:55.800]  Yeah.
[01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:56.800]  Okay.
[01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:00.720]  Then you can go to the court and say, if you went to the court and said, your honor, this
[01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:05.960]  person's a robo signer, while his name splattered all over the internet, the court's going to
[01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:06.960]  say so.
[01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:07.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:11.800]  How does that mean that in this case they were a robo signer?
[01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:16.280]  But when you go to the court and say, your honor, this person's name splattered all over
[01:12:16.280 --> 01:12:21.840]  the internet, so I had reason to believe that he might be a robo signer and this signature
[01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:23.640]  on this document might be invalid.
[01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:32.360]  So I sent a request to the principal for evidence of power of attorney for this person, and
[01:12:32.360 --> 01:12:38.480]  I did not get that evidence of power of attorney, therefore, I have specific reason to believe
[01:12:38.480 --> 01:12:41.680]  and do believe that this guy's a robo signer.
[01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:42.680]  Right.
[01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:43.680]  Okay.
[01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:44.680]  That goes to Parmifatian.
[01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:45.680]  Okay.
[01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:57.640]  Well, from what I can tell, based on the plaintiff's original complaint, they did not have capacity
[01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:01.840]  at that time to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction in the court.
[01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:07.560]  Now I will absolutely just make that clear and simple in some documents separate from
[01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:08.560]  my motion.
[01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.880]  I want to ask you guys about strategy in a way.
[01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:17.520]  All things considered, the new attorneys that are now handling this are questioning whether
[01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:21.640]  I can actually do that, even though the judge has already signed one order that they granted.
[01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:22.840]  Sure, you can do that.
[01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:30.440]  It's called a supplement to your motion titled whatever blah, blah, blah.
[01:13:30.440 --> 01:13:31.440]  Yeah.
[01:13:31.440 --> 01:13:36.400]  So I want to ask you, should I change the name of my motion?
[01:13:36.400 --> 01:13:42.240]  My motion is now called motion to dismiss based on his affirmative action of statute
[01:13:42.240 --> 01:13:43.240]  of limitations.
[01:13:43.240 --> 01:13:44.240]  And now I should...
[01:13:44.240 --> 01:13:45.240]  Affirmative defense.
[01:13:45.240 --> 01:13:46.240]  Yeah.
[01:13:46.240 --> 01:13:47.240]  Yeah.
[01:13:47.240 --> 01:13:48.240]  Yeah.
[01:13:48.240 --> 01:13:49.240]  Forgive me.
[01:13:49.240 --> 01:13:50.240]  It's okay.
[01:13:50.240 --> 01:13:54.320]  Now it's changed to something like, yeah, subject matter jurisdiction and failure to
[01:13:54.320 --> 01:14:00.480]  state a cause of action upon which release can be granted, if that makes sense, since
[01:14:00.480 --> 01:14:02.840]  it's passed the statute of limitations.
[01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:05.960]  You might consider this.
[01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:16.680]  You might consider leaving your motion as is, but supplementing with a plea to the jurisdiction.
[01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:17.680]  Okay.
[01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:18.680]  Got it.
[01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:24.320]  Plead to the jurisdiction is one of the original pleas.
[01:14:24.320 --> 01:14:30.640]  There's only a handful of actual pleas and a plea to the jurisdiction is one of them.
[01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.720]  And it's a very powerful one.
[01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:40.920]  If the court has, if there's no subject matter before the court, because the cause of action
[01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:46.800]  has expired, the court lacks jurisdiction to entertain anything other than a dismissal
[01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.920]  of the plaintiff's action.
[01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:56.600]  And would this be the case even if they have subsequently tried to bring out or suggested
[01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.200]  there were payments made and now they know because I said...
[01:15:00.200 --> 01:15:01.200]  Objection irrelevant.
[01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:02.200]  Irrelevant.
[01:15:02.200 --> 01:15:03.200]  Okay.
[01:15:03.200 --> 01:15:04.200]  Okay.
[01:15:04.200 --> 01:15:10.400]  Now these payments that I made were made to a third party to the original transaction.
[01:15:10.400 --> 01:15:12.400]  Objection irrelevant.
[01:15:12.400 --> 01:15:13.400]  Okay.
[01:15:13.400 --> 01:15:18.360]  The only thing that is relevant here is subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:19.360]  Okay.
[01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:20.880]  I'm going to do it.
[01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.880]  You're telling me do it.
[01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:23.880]  Don't be stupid.
[01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:24.880]  Do it.
[01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:25.880]  I'm not telling you do it.
[01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:35.480]  I'm just telling you to entertain the thought when you, here's my reasoning behind this.
[01:15:35.480 --> 01:15:40.320]  When jurisdiction, okay, let's talk about jurisdiction.
[01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:44.200]  There's three elements to jurisdiction.
[01:15:44.200 --> 01:15:50.680]  There is venue, which I take it you're in the proper venue.
[01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:57.440]  There is in personum, which could be highly questionable given the information regarding
[01:15:57.440 --> 01:15:59.560]  the assignment.
[01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.000]  And there is subject matter.
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:08.400]  In personum jurisdiction can be waived as where subject matter cannot.
[01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:12.760]  If you're challenging the jurisdiction of the court, raising issues of subject matter
[01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:18.720]  jurisdiction due to the fact that there's no subject matter before the court, the court
[01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:29.440]  must establish jurisdiction before proceeding period bar none.
[01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:34.920]  So that's why I keep saying objection irrelevant, objection irrelevant.
[01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:37.960]  I don't care what their argument is.
[01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:44.240]  What relevance does it have to the determination by this court of jurisdiction over the subject
[01:16:44.240 --> 01:16:46.840]  matter, which doesn't exist.
[01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.120]  And I hear the music in the background, we'll pick that back up on the other side of the
[01:16:50.120 --> 01:16:51.120]  break.
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[01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:35.160]  Welcome back to Rural Law Radio, folks.
[01:19:35.160 --> 01:19:37.560]  Let's go back to Mark in Texas.
[01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:46.560]  Now Mark, okay, let's say, well, we know that Chase is arguing by saying, well, he tried
[01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:52.160]  to make a payment here and there, and it told the statute of limitations.
[01:19:52.160 --> 01:19:53.360]  Okay.
[01:19:53.360 --> 01:19:56.080]  You had mentioned some messed up assignments.
[01:19:56.080 --> 01:20:08.560]  So what would, this would mean that Chase would have to prove that they are the proper
[01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.640]  party to receive payments.
[01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.460]  You'd mentioned some messed up assignments.
[01:20:14.460 --> 01:20:21.560]  So in the shadow of these messed up assignments, Chase is not going to be able to prove that
[01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:23.880]  they were the proper party.
[01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:30.800]  So, well, let me finish here.
[01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:37.040]  If Chase cannot prove that they are the proper party to receive payments under a messed up
[01:20:37.040 --> 01:20:44.320]  assignment, which they cannot, then the statute of limitations continued to run.
[01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:47.560]  Let me bring this into perspective.
[01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:54.000]  Frank loans me $10, George says, hey, you owe me $10.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:55.000]  Really George?
[01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:56.400]  What will you $10 for?
[01:20:56.400 --> 01:20:58.920]  Well, I paid Frank.
[01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:08.200]  Oh, well, I haven't heard anything from Frank, okay?
[01:21:08.200 --> 01:21:09.760]  Frank doesn't know anything about it.
[01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.160]  As a matter of fact, Frank's dead.
[01:21:12.160 --> 01:21:13.840]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:19.320]  So now how are you, George, going to prove that you paid Frank?
[01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:21.160]  He can't.
[01:21:21.160 --> 01:21:25.120]  So the statute of limitations was never told.
[01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:28.400]  Right.
[01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:34.040]  That would be my thought here in that the original lender out of business in 2008, supposedly
[01:21:34.040 --> 01:21:39.000]  assigning it in 2013, absolutely impossible.
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  They can't get there.
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  They can't get there.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  Yeah.
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:49.040]  So let me ask you, because I'm concerned about this, I've heard you guys say many times that
[01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:54.600]  the whole purpose of this first level circuit court stuff is to prepare the record for appeal
[01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:57.160]  so that you get your homework done.
[01:21:57.160 --> 01:22:02.080]  Now I'm going to, I believe what I'm going to do, and I think it makes sense.
[01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:08.560]  I'm going to give the judge something very simple and it will be a plea to the jurisdiction
[01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:12.320]  and I'll try to find some Arkansas case law, which I gave up on before, but I'll dig on
[01:22:12.320 --> 01:22:13.320]  it further.
[01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:14.320]  Okay.
[01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:19.640]  Then so that I have continuance because now in their motion to oppose, they're trying
[01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:25.640]  to look like they're very simple and I'm bamboozling the court, which is the intact opposite.
[01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:31.960]  They're asking the judge to find in their favor so that I can create continuance.
[01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.040]  Should I bomb them with some interrogatories?
[01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:39.280]  Before it was suggested by a friend of mine that was an attorney who'd done a little litigation,
[01:22:39.280 --> 01:22:41.800]  he said, you want to keep this as simple as possible.
[01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:45.720]  If you do that, it's just going to stretch this out, but I have some interrogatories
[01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:52.480]  that I pulled off the web from a group of attorneys that publish things without officially
[01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:53.480]  giving advice.
[01:22:53.480 --> 01:22:54.480]  Okay.
[01:22:54.480 --> 01:22:59.320]  They're good and they're relevant, but I want to ask you guys, what interrogatories would
[01:22:59.320 --> 01:23:04.320]  help create a basis to destroy a fraudulent assignment?
[01:23:04.320 --> 01:23:10.560]  For example, I know I'm going to ask on this date, on the date of the assignment, who was
[01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:12.520]  this person employed by?
[01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.120]  I'm also going to send the letter to Merz as Randy suggested, but we're talking about
[01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:18.040]  the person who signed it.
[01:23:18.040 --> 01:23:19.040]  Okay.
[01:23:19.040 --> 01:23:22.440]  Let me pause you right there.
[01:23:22.440 --> 01:23:30.240]  In any court, you're going to be very limited as to how many interrogatories you can submit.
[01:23:30.240 --> 01:23:39.360]  If you can convert your interrogatory into an admission, you're not going to be limited
[01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:41.120]  to admissions.
[01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:47.720]  You can ask a million admissions, admit or deny this, admit or deny that.
[01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:48.720]  Right.
[01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:55.680]  Now, the reason I raise this is that I'm not trying to discourage you from submitting your
[01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:58.200]  interrogatories.
[01:23:58.200 --> 01:24:05.240]  What I am suggesting is that you use reservation with your interrogatories.
[01:24:05.240 --> 01:24:10.160]  That is, think about your interrogatory really well before you put it on the table because
[01:24:10.160 --> 01:24:16.520]  you're limited as to how many interrogatories you can submit.
[01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:21.120]  From my perspective, discovery is an art form.
[01:24:21.120 --> 01:24:22.120]  Yes it is.
[01:24:22.120 --> 01:24:25.240]  Yes, it is an absolute art form.
[01:24:25.240 --> 01:24:29.960]  This is part of the art is converting your interrogatories into admissions because there
[01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:32.400]  are no limitations on admissions.
[01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:41.240]  If you can trip them up on the admissions, for example, you were saying, did this person
[01:24:41.240 --> 01:24:46.440]  work for you through this period to that period?
[01:24:46.440 --> 01:24:52.840]  You might be able to convert that by saying, admit or deny this person worked for you between
[01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:57.960]  this period and that period.
[01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:00.960]  That way you have saved an interrogatory.
[01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.000]  Got it.
[01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:10.400]  Keep your interrogatories to questions that cannot be converted into requests for production,
[01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:15.820]  requests for admissions or request for disclosures.
[01:25:15.820 --> 01:25:20.680]  If you can convert any interrogatory into any other one of those phases of discovery,
[01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:26.040]  do so and do so every time.
[01:25:26.040 --> 01:25:28.040]  Reserve your interrogatories.
[01:25:28.040 --> 01:25:36.160]  With respect to this person, there are three potential, there's the latest servicer, there's
[01:25:36.160 --> 01:25:41.320]  the organization that's the plaintiff here, there's the original lender and then there's
[01:25:41.320 --> 01:25:44.560]  Chase that was a servicer in between that assignment.
[01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:48.560]  I could just hit them with four admissions and one of those is going to get something.
[01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:49.720]  There you go.
[01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:50.720]  There you go.
[01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:51.720]  Yeah.
[01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.640]  If that's okay, I'll bomb them with hundreds of these things.
[01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.640]  Yes.
[01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:56.640]  Yes.
[01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:58.800]  The more, the better.
[01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:00.560]  I love it.
[01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.320]  This is good for all of your listeners and I appreciate you guys talking to me going
[01:26:04.320 --> 01:26:06.320]  really in-depth and detailed here.
[01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:07.320]  Great deal.
[01:26:07.320 --> 01:26:08.320]  Sure.
[01:26:08.320 --> 01:26:18.880]  I really, really do and now I understand more or less that being that the present organization
[01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:25.760]  received this or was assigned this promissory note after it was already long in the vault,
[01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:31.520]  they are under all of the rules and regulations of debt collectors.
[01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:38.840]  So I've got all kinds of fun to have there and I may be able to actually just encourage
[01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:45.600]  some continuance of this case by submitting qualified written requests and things of that
[01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:46.600]  sort.
[01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:47.600]  I haven't done any of this.
[01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.640]  It's too late for a qualified written request.
[01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:50.640]  Too late?
[01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:51.640]  Yeah.
[01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:52.640]  You're already in litigation.
[01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:53.640]  Okay.
[01:26:53.640 --> 01:27:02.960]  And besides, you wouldn't want to do that because as far as you're concerned, there
[01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:04.960]  is no debt.
[01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:06.880]  Oh, okay.
[01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:12.760]  So asking for it is actually buying into the idea that it's there.
[01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:13.760]  Yep.
[01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:17.480]  That is, it's a tacit admission.
[01:27:17.480 --> 01:27:20.360]  By questioning that, you're saying it exists.
[01:27:20.360 --> 01:27:21.360]  Exactly.
[01:27:21.360 --> 01:27:25.560]  I will not do that, I promise.
[01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:31.040]  These subtleties are really going to eat your lunch or put it on the table.
[01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:32.040]  Exactly.
[01:27:32.040 --> 01:27:36.680]  And at this point, I'm going to do the fleet of the jurisdiction.
[01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:43.840]  I'm going to clarify in my response everything that I can and I'll reveal to the judge how
[01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:48.120]  they're essentially trying to pull the wool over his eyes.
[01:27:48.120 --> 01:27:55.600]  And then if it makes sense, I'll hit them with admissions at the same time and make
[01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:01.240]  them very plentiful and do something like a request for production of the notes and
[01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:09.880]  a request for production of the actual payment history, complete history of assignment, complete
[01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:11.960]  history of payment, et cetera.
[01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.520]  These are things they don't want to share because it's not...
[01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:19.160]  And also power of attorney.
[01:28:19.160 --> 01:28:23.520]  Power of attorney for the person acting on MERS behalf.
[01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:24.640]  Correct.
[01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:33.440]  For anybody who signed any document, also ask for evidence of authentication from the
[01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:36.880]  notaries.
[01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:41.520]  Evidence of authentication from the notary, just they're being capable of doing this from
[01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:42.520]  all notaries.
[01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:43.520]  Yes.
[01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:48.400]  If you want them to produce that, that's a request for production.
[01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:52.040]  Now keep in mind, your discovery is not something that you file into court.
[01:28:52.040 --> 01:28:55.080]  It's something that you send to the other side.
[01:28:55.080 --> 01:29:02.400]  For the evidence of the author, the acknowledgement of the documents to the notary, that goes
[01:29:02.400 --> 01:29:06.880]  directly to the notary, not to the defendants or plaintiffs.
[01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:07.880]  Correct.
[01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:08.880]  Got it.
[01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:14.600]  So I need to just find those people as they're registered with their state and figure out...
[01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:15.600]  Exactly.
[01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:16.600]  Exactly.
[01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:17.600]  Okay.
[01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:18.600]  Got it.
[01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:22.000]  The notary should have an address where you can send that.
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.160]  Got it.
[01:29:23.160 --> 01:29:27.080]  The judge will be aware if I file these things and this will cause the judge to try to go
[01:29:27.080 --> 01:29:32.280]  ahead and close the door on me here so that I might possibly bring out something a little
[01:29:32.280 --> 01:29:34.080]  more interesting if I have to.
[01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:35.560]  Does that make sense?
[01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:37.360]  It makes perfect sense.
[01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:38.360]  All right.
[01:29:38.360 --> 01:29:39.360]  Gents.
[01:29:39.360 --> 01:29:40.360]  Thank you both.
[01:29:40.360 --> 01:29:41.360]  You're quite welcome.
[01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:42.360]  Keep us updated.
[01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:43.360]  I'll call you again soon.
[01:29:43.360 --> 01:29:44.360]  Thank you.
[01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:45.360]  Folks, we'll be right back.
[01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:46.360]  Stay tuned.
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[01:32:51.280 --> 01:33:18.800]  Oh, I see it too, I see it too The other time, the other day, I was with you
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[01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:38.080]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks, and with no further ado, let's go to Maryland
[01:33:38.080 --> 01:33:40.800]  and see what we can do for Jimmy tonight.
[01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:41.800]  Hello, Jimmy.
[01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:42.800]  Hello, Jimmy.
[01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:58.240]  Jimmy and Marilyn, you're live, dude, you there?
[01:33:58.240 --> 01:34:07.960]  Going once, Jimmy and Marilyn, going twice, sold, Marcus and VA.
[01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:09.440]  Hello, Marcus.
[01:34:09.440 --> 01:34:10.440]  Thank you for calling back.
[01:34:10.440 --> 01:34:14.160]  Hi, Steve, sorry I dropped out there.
[01:34:14.160 --> 01:34:15.160]  That's okay.
[01:34:15.160 --> 01:34:18.800]  Hey, you know, technology is a wonderful thing when it works right.
[01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:20.840]  Oh, yeah.
[01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:21.840]  Okay.
[01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:29.200]  So, do you remember where you were before you dropped off?
[01:34:29.200 --> 01:34:33.440]  You were trying to get an agreement that you had certain rights.
[01:34:33.440 --> 01:34:37.040]  Yeah, prior to my showing up in court.
[01:34:37.040 --> 01:34:44.520]  Yeah, and we were saying, it's not something you can compel.
[01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:51.160]  You just either have them or you don't, and they will either abide by them or they won't.
[01:34:51.160 --> 01:34:58.680]  There's nothing you can do to compel them to agree to do one thing or another, at least
[01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.680]  nothing that I know of.
[01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:08.680]  Well, I mean, here in Virginia, I don't understand how the public detects it, but we have consent
[01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:17.640]  of the government, according to the constitution, and also according to the constitution, all
[01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:25.240]  officers are to take an oath to uphold the constitution and the United States constitution.
[01:35:25.240 --> 01:35:27.760]  Both state and federal.
[01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:29.720]  What's that?
[01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:33.360]  Both state and federal constitutions.
[01:35:33.360 --> 01:35:34.360]  Right.
[01:35:34.360 --> 01:35:35.360]  Okay.
[01:35:35.360 --> 01:35:37.960]  Well, what is the point of that?
[01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:47.160]  Well, the point is Article 1, Section 6, which I'll read it real quick once again, that all
[01:35:47.160 --> 01:35:55.080]  elections ought to be free and that all men having sufficient evidence of permanent common
[01:35:55.080 --> 01:36:02.840]  interest with an attachment to the community basically shall not have their rights deprived
[01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:04.680]  without their consent.
[01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:05.680]  Okay.
[01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:06.680]  Okay.
[01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:14.400]  So I'm saying, I want to talk to the judge and ask him, hey, is this evidence here that
[01:36:14.400 --> 01:36:25.000]  I'm presenting to you by mail sufficient for you to recognize that I have standing here
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:31.320]  in the court before I go in, that you are not to deprive me of my rights?
[01:36:31.320 --> 01:36:32.800]  Wait a minute.
[01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:37.120]  I don't understand what you mean by standing.
[01:36:37.120 --> 01:36:46.000]  Well, I mean, as a person standing just means, you know, the person that has rights.
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  Not exactly.
[01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  It means-
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  Rights don't give you standing.
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.280]  Well, maybe I don't understand that word properly.
[01:36:52.280 --> 01:36:54.280]  I'm not using it right, but-
[01:36:54.280 --> 01:36:55.280]  Okay.
[01:36:55.280 --> 01:36:58.160]  Marcus, we're not being pedantic here.
[01:36:58.160 --> 01:37:04.040]  It is really important that you understand the terms.
[01:37:04.040 --> 01:37:15.160]  And standing means that you are, you have a legal, what would be the right way to say
[01:37:15.160 --> 01:37:16.160]  that?
[01:37:16.160 --> 01:37:22.480]  I don't want to say legal right, that you're legally able to invoke the jurisdiction of
[01:37:22.480 --> 01:37:26.600]  the court.
[01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:29.720]  But beyond that, it doesn't have any meaning.
[01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:37.640]  So I didn't understand you have, by asking if you have standing, how that guarantees
[01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:38.640]  your rights.
[01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:51.040]  Well, do I have standing to invoke the constitutional jurisdiction of the court or the civil jurisdiction?
[01:37:51.040 --> 01:37:56.000]  I think you're convoluting some terms.
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:02.680]  I'm going to say something, Marcus, that may offend you, but I mean no offense by it.
[01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:10.880]  It sounds to me like you're following the teachings of some patriot mythologists.
[01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:15.960]  I don't know which ones.
[01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:16.960]  Okay.
[01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:25.440]  It really wouldn't matter, but there is a plethora of patriot mythologists out there
[01:38:25.440 --> 01:38:32.560]  that will try to convince you that you can go into the court and you can hold the judges
[01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:37.160]  accountable for all kinds of things that you can't.
[01:38:37.160 --> 01:38:44.440]  Now what you've asked us is what can you do prior to going into court to secure your rights?
[01:38:44.440 --> 01:38:47.400]  Or at least that's the way I take it.
[01:38:47.400 --> 01:38:52.540]  There's nothing you can do prior to going into court to secure your rights.
[01:38:52.540 --> 01:39:00.120]  What you can do, however, once you enter into the court is you can ask the judge, your honor,
[01:39:00.120 --> 01:39:07.680]  before we get started, I would like to establish on the record, if there be a record, I would
[01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:14.720]  like to establish on the record that this court recognizes the fact that I have certain
[01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:20.400]  unalienable, inalienable inherent rights.
[01:39:20.400 --> 01:39:26.540]  He will either say yes or no.
[01:39:26.540 --> 01:39:33.480]  If he says yes, this court recognizes that you have certain inherent rights.
[01:39:33.480 --> 01:39:35.360]  Okay, great.
[01:39:35.360 --> 01:39:36.360]  Cool.
[01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:39.520]  You just got where you wanted to go.
[01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.960]  But if the court says no.
[01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.480]  Or if the court is silent.
[01:39:45.480 --> 01:39:50.720]  Or if the court is silent, the tacit implication behind that silence is no, that the court
[01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:54.080]  does not recognize any of your rights.
[01:39:54.080 --> 01:40:08.640]  Now you've set yourself a path that is going to be very, very difficult to navigate.
[01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:09.640]  You follow me?
[01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:10.640]  Okay.
[01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:14.440]  I'm not sure exactly.
[01:40:14.440 --> 01:40:16.040]  Okay.
[01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:19.840]  It sounds like you need to do a little bit more research, brother.
[01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.640]  It really does.
[01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:30.880]  Even if you get the court to agree that you have certain constitutional rights and they're
[01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:36.720]  under oath to protect those rights, in the end it doesn't mean anything.
[01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:37.720]  Correct.
[01:40:37.720 --> 01:40:47.200]  And anytime you're before a court, before you do anything, you should know why you're
[01:40:47.200 --> 01:40:50.200]  doing it.
[01:40:50.200 --> 01:40:56.240]  Before you walk into a court, you need to know exactly what your intended outcome is
[01:40:56.240 --> 01:41:01.000]  and weigh everything that you do against that outcome.
[01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:04.120]  Will this lead me toward that outcome?
[01:41:04.120 --> 01:41:10.880]  Will this lead me away from that outcome or will this make no difference?
[01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:17.320]  And those things that won't lead you toward that outcome, don't do them.
[01:41:17.320 --> 01:41:20.160]  If it makes no difference, don't do them.
[01:41:20.160 --> 01:41:26.840]  When the bailiff knocked me down and broke my elbow, I weighed going after the bailiff
[01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:35.680]  against moving me toward my intended ultimate outcome and I could find no way to frame going
[01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:41.160]  after the bailiff in terms of achieving my ultimate outcome.
[01:41:41.160 --> 01:41:49.440]  So as bad as that hurt me and as upset and annoyed as I was, I just could not find a
[01:41:49.440 --> 01:41:57.440]  way to go after him because it would have just been to serve my personal passions and
[01:41:57.440 --> 01:42:00.480]  not my purpose.
[01:42:00.480 --> 01:42:06.920]  We really need to define purpose and stay on point for purpose.
[01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:08.840]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:10.840]  Does that make sense?
[01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:14.720]  Yeah, I think so.
[01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:15.720]  Okay.
[01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:22.160]  Well, Marcus, if there's nothing else, it looks like Jimmy and Marilyn's called back
[01:42:22.160 --> 01:42:27.320]  in and we owe it to him to voice his questions.
[01:42:27.320 --> 01:42:28.320]  Great.
[01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:29.320]  Thank you.
[01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:30.320]  Appreciate it.
[01:42:30.320 --> 01:42:31.320]  Now, let's go back to Marilyn.
[01:42:31.320 --> 01:42:32.320]  Jimmy, are you there?
[01:42:32.320 --> 01:42:33.320]  Yes, I'm here.
[01:42:33.320 --> 01:42:34.320]  How are you guys?
[01:42:34.320 --> 01:42:35.320]  There you are.
[01:42:35.320 --> 01:42:36.320]  Okay.
[01:42:36.320 --> 01:42:37.320]  What you got for us tonight, Jimmy?
[01:42:37.320 --> 01:42:48.720]  Well, I just want to update you on my sentence hearing that I had yesterday.
[01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:49.720]  Very good.
[01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:50.720]  How'd it go?
[01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:51.720]  Yeah.
[01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:54.320]  Well, it's kind of interesting.
[01:42:54.320 --> 01:43:03.080]  The prosecutor, he submitted enhancement of charges and abilities on the other two cases
[01:43:03.080 --> 01:43:11.040]  that are still pending the appeal, and I was explaining to the judge after he did all this,
[01:43:11.040 --> 01:43:16.240]  I explained, well, these cases are pending the appeal in the United States Supreme Court.
[01:43:16.240 --> 01:43:23.000]  He said, wait a minute, so I thought you're trying to move for a continuous or stay, and
[01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:30.360]  he made it clear he wasn't going to do that, so I said, okay, so I told you guys that I
[01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:36.080]  was trying to find the facts and conclusive law that I was going to file, and also the
[01:43:36.080 --> 01:43:39.080]  judgment that I was saying earlier.
[01:43:39.080 --> 01:43:40.080]  Yes.
[01:43:40.080 --> 01:43:43.240]  Let's hold that for the other side of this break, Jimmy.
[01:43:43.240 --> 01:43:44.800]  We've got no choice.
[01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:49.320]  We're going to break, and we'll be right back after these brief messages.
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[01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:34.160]  We are in the final segment of the evening.
[01:46:34.160 --> 01:46:38.720]  So with no further delay, let's go back to Jimmy and Marilyn.
[01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:47.280]  Now, Jimmy, just to recap before we went to the break, I take it that there were some
[01:46:47.280 --> 01:46:54.200]  cases, you've been accused of some wrongdoing and there are some cases involving your case
[01:46:54.200 --> 01:46:59.960]  that are still pending in a higher court, but the judge in your case doesn't seem to
[01:46:59.960 --> 01:47:00.960]  care.
[01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:03.760]  Is that a correct assessment?
[01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:05.080]  Yes.
[01:47:05.080 --> 01:47:07.280]  Okay.
[01:47:07.280 --> 01:47:11.120]  So what was the- Hold on.
[01:47:11.120 --> 01:47:19.600]  Do the cases that are pending, are the cases that are pending of such a nature that they
[01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:30.320]  have a ruling one way or the other would dispose of or affect the case at bar?
[01:47:30.320 --> 01:47:34.520]  Well, it would not affect this case.
[01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:42.400]  They're just trying to attack more severe punishments since I'm a third time offender
[01:47:42.400 --> 01:47:46.840]  for driving on a suspended license, driving out a license.
[01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:52.240]  So that's what they did, they're trying to just add more kill me's on me.
[01:47:52.240 --> 01:47:53.240]  Oh, okay.
[01:47:53.240 --> 01:47:54.240]  Okay.
[01:47:54.240 --> 01:47:55.320]  That makes a difference.
[01:47:55.320 --> 01:48:04.080]  So one of the cases they're claiming as you to be an offender on is one of the cases before
[01:48:04.080 --> 01:48:05.080]  the Supreme?
[01:48:05.080 --> 01:48:06.080]  Two.
[01:48:06.080 --> 01:48:07.080]  Yes.
[01:48:07.080 --> 01:48:08.960]  I got two, two of them.
[01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:09.960]  Yeah.
[01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:14.840]  So if both of those are dismissed, then the enhancement goes away.
[01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:15.840]  Right.
[01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:26.000]  So that would be a cause for either dropping the enhancement or continuing the case until
[01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:27.960]  these issues are heard.
[01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:28.960]  Right.
[01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:29.960]  Exactly.
[01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:36.760]  And you're saying that'll just put this one in appeal as well?
[01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:41.360]  That's where I'm going to add in a point, just how the outcome as well.
[01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:46.640]  Like I said, the jury already found me guilty and everything, and I'm supposed to be there
[01:48:46.640 --> 01:48:47.640]  for sentencing.
[01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:55.920]  And I booked my right to allocution back in, I think it was at the Thursday, the 4th of
[01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:56.920]  March.
[01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:01.640]  So we're down here on the 12th of March, I'm back, I've got my favorite spotter, if they
[01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:07.800]  got my plan, put my plan in action, the prosecution, like I said, he hands the judge these enhancements
[01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:14.600]  and then he goes on talking about, because I was charged with and found guilty for driving
[01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:15.600]  on a suspended license.
[01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:20.600]  Now he's changing his, he's changing what he's been saying all along through the trial
[01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:28.600]  that a suspended license, they can't suspend something that does not exist, which is what
[01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:29.600]  I was saying.
[01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:30.600]  Agreed.
[01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:38.680]  So the suspended license, he changed that around and I guess he didn't know, and remember
[01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:44.440]  I found four bar grievances on it, so I think somebody talked to him concerning my bar grievances.
[01:49:44.440 --> 01:49:52.280]  So now he changed it around, so I said, he cites me with two driver's license, one doesn't
[01:49:52.280 --> 01:49:56.760]  exist, one that I'm cited with, and the one that I had doesn't exist, because I turned
[01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:57.760]  in, they destroyed it.
[01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:04.640]  Well, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, okay.
[01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:13.120]  Just for kicks and giggles, a jury of your peers found you guilty of whatever was driving
[01:50:13.120 --> 01:50:16.280]  on a suspended license.
[01:50:16.280 --> 01:50:24.260]  Now in the sentencing portion of this, the attorney is trying to add on more things that
[01:50:24.260 --> 01:50:28.520]  were not ruled on by the jury.
[01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:29.520]  Right.
[01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:33.960]  How does he do that?
[01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:38.960]  But they claim they have the right, if you're, if you're on probation or probation, like
[01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:46.720]  I was, the cases I'm still pending appeal were also pending probation.
[01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:54.080]  Okay, but what I'm saying is that, okay, let's say you go into a burger joint.
[01:50:54.080 --> 01:51:01.440]  And you say, I want a cheeseburger with just everything that comes on it.
[01:51:01.440 --> 01:51:06.960]  And I see there that the price for that cheeseburger is $3 even.
[01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:15.000]  Well, now the person behind the counter comes to you and says, here's your cheeseburger
[01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.240]  with everything on it.
[01:51:18.240 --> 01:51:24.840]  And since we put a bunch of extra stuff on it, now you owe us $12 for the cheeseburger.
[01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:33.920]  Well, everything on it would be mayo, onions, lettuce, ketchup, pickles, but oh, you said
[01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:35.480]  you wanted everything.
[01:51:35.480 --> 01:51:40.640]  So we just added a bunch of extra stuff and we're going to charge you 12, we'll charge
[01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.000]  you four times the price.
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.880]  That's inequitable.
[01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:48.640]  This is the same thing in my mind.
[01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:51.640]  This is the same thing that the prosecutor's doing.
[01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:56.000]  He's trying to charge you $12 for a $3 burger.
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:04.040]  Randy, do you know of anything in law that would allow the prosecutor to do that?
[01:52:04.040 --> 01:52:13.960]  Well, I didn't get exactly what he, he's trying to enhance in this last case.
[01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:16.360]  Have you been found guilty yet?
[01:52:16.360 --> 01:52:17.360]  Yes.
[01:52:17.360 --> 01:52:18.360]  Okay.
[01:52:18.360 --> 01:52:22.680]  So now this is the punishment phase of the trial.
[01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:24.380]  Yes.
[01:52:24.380 --> 01:52:32.560]  So he's trying to bring in other things as, wait a minute.
[01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:33.560]  Exactly.
[01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:34.560]  Yeah.
[01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:41.120]  You were, you were found guilty of driving on a suspended license.
[01:52:41.120 --> 01:52:43.520]  Right.
[01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:48.720]  And he's trying to change the charges after the verdict?
[01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:53.160]  That's what it looks like because the way he talked about the suspended license, I said
[01:52:53.160 --> 01:52:59.440]  I should have been, it should be under my true name, not the name I was cited with.
[01:52:59.440 --> 01:53:04.560]  And I'm still trying to really comprehend exactly what was he saying because he's talking
[01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:11.280]  about, you know, the case that I have pending, you know, is driving without a license that
[01:53:11.280 --> 01:53:13.760]  I valid probation is on that.
[01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:20.680]  It's weird because I was found guilty of suspended license, yet he's saying that, you know, if
[01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:27.200]  it doesn't exist, they can't, a license, like I said, a license that does not exist, they
[01:53:27.200 --> 01:53:30.640]  can't suspend.
[01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.560]  So he's admitted that in court?
[01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:33.560]  Yes.
[01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:38.560]  I mean, he's been in court, but he used this to convict me, used this, you know, to try
[01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:44.240]  to tell the jury that it's my fault about his suspended license, you know, trying to
[01:53:44.240 --> 01:53:48.280]  say that it's my own doing and it's my fault.
[01:53:48.280 --> 01:53:49.280]  And now he has changed around.
[01:53:49.280 --> 01:53:55.240]  So I really believe that somebody talked to him about my bar grievance and he said he
[01:53:55.240 --> 01:53:56.240]  was wrong.
[01:53:56.240 --> 01:53:57.240]  He's telling me I'm a good guy.
[01:53:57.240 --> 01:53:58.240]  He's telling me I'm a good guy.
[01:53:58.240 --> 01:53:59.240]  This is a minor thing.
[01:53:59.240 --> 01:54:00.240]  And I'm like, this guy's good.
[01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:05.320]  I mean, he was like, I'm supposed to be the...
[01:54:05.320 --> 01:54:08.160]  Sounds like he's screwed up and he's trying to fix it.
[01:54:08.160 --> 01:54:09.160]  Yep.
[01:54:09.160 --> 01:54:10.720]  Yeah.
[01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:18.000]  So since he admitted in court that you couldn't suspend a non-existent license, you need to
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:24.160]  move to dismiss with prejudice.
[01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:29.560]  Can he do that after the verdict, after a jury verdict?
[01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:35.520]  Oh, no, but you can in your appeal.
[01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:41.680]  This will almost certainly get you an appeal and get you turned over on appeal.
[01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:51.360]  And it also, it seems highly inequitable to bring in extra charges after a conviction.
[01:54:51.360 --> 01:54:52.360]  I don't see how...
[01:54:52.360 --> 01:54:58.640]  I don't know of anything in law that would allow a prosecutor to do that, Randy.
[01:54:58.640 --> 01:55:05.680]  I think the judge could move to strike the verdict right then.
[01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:11.760]  Well, that's what I'm going to get to, a judge that doesn't understand the verdict.
[01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:12.760]  Okay.
[01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:17.800]  Because obviously the prosecutor lied to the jury in order to get the verdict.
[01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:18.800]  Yes.
[01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:23.840]  And he essentially admitted that in court.
[01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:25.840]  Yeah.
[01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:37.320]  Oh, I know, petition the court of appeals for a, not a mandamus.
[01:55:37.320 --> 01:55:43.280]  What would you petition them for, Steve, to order them to overturn the verdict and dismiss
[01:55:43.280 --> 01:55:44.280]  the case?
[01:55:44.280 --> 01:55:50.200]  Yeah, but I don't know how you'd go about that.
[01:55:50.200 --> 01:55:53.120]  Criminal law is not necessarily my forte.
[01:55:53.120 --> 01:55:58.520]  Anyway, you can go ahead and appeal already, Kenji, have you already appealed this particular
[01:55:58.520 --> 01:55:59.520]  case?
[01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:00.520]  No, no judgment.
[01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:01.520]  That's what I'm going to get to, there's no judgment.
[01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:02.520]  Okay.
[01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:09.520]  The judge did, he recommended that I get a public defender, get a lawyer.
[01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:14.640]  He said, if he gets a lawyer, they'll screw you.
[01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:22.720]  You need to file a motion to overturn the verdict based on new information after verdict
[01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:23.920]  was given.
[01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:31.360]  The prosecutor gave information to show that the testimony that what he told the jury prior
[01:56:31.360 --> 01:56:36.120]  during the prosecution was incorrect.
[01:56:36.120 --> 01:56:39.320]  Would this be an interlocutory appeal?
[01:56:39.320 --> 01:56:42.240]  Oh, perfect.
[01:56:42.240 --> 01:56:48.200]  Well, I think there's something more straightforward.
[01:56:48.200 --> 01:56:58.280]  This should go to a move to have the judge overturn the verdict based on the admission
[01:56:58.280 --> 01:56:59.280]  of the prosecution.
[01:56:59.280 --> 01:57:00.280]  Yeah.
[01:57:00.280 --> 01:57:09.080]  When the prosecution admits in court that you cannot be charged with this particular
[01:57:09.080 --> 01:57:16.720]  crime that he prosecuted you and got you convicted of, this put the prosecutor in a spot.
[01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:18.680]  I'm amazed that he admitted that.
[01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:24.400]  Yeah, but he's still trying to do the enhancement that I should be incarcerated, my bond should
[01:57:24.400 --> 01:57:25.400]  be lifted.
[01:57:25.400 --> 01:57:31.560]  This is the third time I've been, you know, been caught with this, driving without license.
[01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:32.560]  Enough's enough.
[01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:34.600]  Finding me is not going to solve it.
[01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:39.320]  I need to be doing jail, I need to be locked up to get me to stop doing this.
[01:57:39.320 --> 01:57:41.920]  The prosecutor should go to jail.
[01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:43.920]  I agree.
[01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:48.920]  He should go to jail for perjury.
[01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:53.120]  Now you can be ignorant, but he can't prosecute it.
[01:57:53.120 --> 01:57:54.120]  Exactly.
[01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:55.120]  He cannot.
[01:57:55.120 --> 01:58:04.680]  So he had to knowingly and intentionally prosecute you for a crime you could not have committed.
[01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:11.080]  Go after the prosecutor, welcoming him to the deep end of the pool, bar grieving first
[01:58:11.080 --> 01:58:16.040]  and file criminally against him second, and you might even be able to sue him over this
[01:58:16.040 --> 01:58:17.040]  one.
[01:58:17.040 --> 01:58:24.120]  But first, petition the court to overturn the verdict based on the testimony of the
[01:58:24.120 --> 01:58:25.120]  prosecutor.
[01:58:25.120 --> 01:58:31.720]  Jimmy, I'm afraid we're completely out of time tonight.
[01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:33.160]  I appreciate you calling in.
[01:58:33.160 --> 01:58:34.840]  Call back in next Friday.
[01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:42.160]  And folks, for Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig and myself, we bid you all a good
[01:58:42.160 --> 01:58:45.360]  weekend and a good night, and we'll see you next Friday night.
[01:58:45.360 --> 01:58:48.360]  Until then, be safe.
[01:58:48.360 --> 01:58:50.680]  Good night.
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