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[00:34.600 --> 00:38.880]  In the news, two police officers were shot and seriously wounded early this morning outside
[00:38.880 --> 00:41.200]  the police department in Ferguson, Missouri.
[00:41.200 --> 00:45.080]  Fox News reports that St. Louis County Police Chief John Belmar held an early morning news
[00:45.080 --> 00:50.080]  conference and stated that a 41-year-old officer from St. Louis County was shot in the shoulder,
[00:50.080 --> 00:54.480]  while a 32-year-old officer from suburban Webster Groves was shot in the face.
[00:54.480 --> 00:59.160]  Both officers were taken to a local hospital with their conditions described as very serious.
[00:59.160 --> 01:03.320]  The shooting came amidst protests that followed the resignation of the town's police chief.
[01:03.320 --> 01:07.000]  Chief Thomas Jackson announced he would resign following a report from the U.S. Department
[01:07.000 --> 01:10.880]  of Justice that condemned the practices of the Ferguson Police Department.
[01:10.880 --> 01:14.640]  Jackson is only the latest in a line of recent departures after the Justice Department's
[01:14.640 --> 01:16.640]  investigation concluded.
[01:16.640 --> 01:21.880]  The report found that the Ferguson PD was guilty of unlawful and unconstitutional practices.
[01:21.880 --> 01:25.720]  The Justice Department also found widespread racism in the police department and municipal
[01:25.720 --> 01:26.720]  court.
[01:26.720 --> 01:30.840]  Despite calls to shut down the police department, Ferguson Mayor James Knowles said the city
[01:30.840 --> 01:36.040]  is committed to keeping the police department open.
[01:36.040 --> 01:40.360]  On Wednesday afternoon, protesters gathered in Decatur, Georgia to protest the shooting
[01:40.360 --> 01:43.680]  death of a military veteran at the hands of a police officer.
[01:43.680 --> 01:48.640]  Anthony Hill was a 27-year-old military veteran suffering from bipolar disorder when he was
[01:48.640 --> 01:50.880]  shot by Officer Robert Olson.
[01:50.880 --> 01:55.520]  The officer reportedly found Hill running around naked in a suburban apartment complex.
[01:55.520 --> 01:58.840]  The officer said Hill came towards him and would not listen to warnings.
[01:58.840 --> 02:02.520]  Olson reportedly appeared shocked after the shooting and was seen sitting down on the
[02:02.520 --> 02:04.880]  street with his head in his hands.
[02:04.880 --> 02:09.640]  The Georgia Bureau of Investigation will now handle the official investigation.
[02:09.640 --> 02:13.040]  Protesters rallied outside of a county courthouse and marched through the streets, shutting
[02:13.040 --> 02:15.280]  down busy intersections.
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[03:42.520 --> 03:54.880]  Howdy, howdy.
[03:54.880 --> 03:59.940]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 12th day
[03:59.940 --> 04:04.060]  of March, 2015.
[04:04.060 --> 04:08.580]  I will have the caller, the call board open all night.
[04:08.580 --> 04:11.820]  So if you have a question or comment, give us a call.
[04:11.820 --> 04:20.280]  I'm going to start out talking about one of my favorite subjects, it's prosecuting attorneys.
[04:20.280 --> 04:25.640]  I was going to talk about a new bill in the legislature affecting the grand jury, but
[04:25.640 --> 04:30.040]  it turned out to be of little importance.
[04:30.040 --> 04:39.440]  There is something I want to talk about, primarily going to prosecutorial discretion.
[04:39.440 --> 04:47.460]  And rereading the codes with the latest amendments, I'm a little surprised at some of the things
[04:47.460 --> 04:51.280]  that I've found stuffed into the code.
[04:51.280 --> 04:57.340]  It looks as though our legislators really need something to do.
[04:57.340 --> 05:07.820]  I'm going to start out with Article 2, or Chapter 2 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure.
[05:07.820 --> 05:14.920]  And it starts out, it's titled General Duties of Officers, the very first officer they address
[05:14.920 --> 05:17.120]  are prosecuting attorneys.
[05:17.120 --> 05:21.880]  Duties of district attorneys, each district attorney shall represent the state in all
[05:21.880 --> 05:29.000]  criminal cases in the district courts of his district and in appeals there from, except
[05:29.000 --> 05:35.140]  in cases where he has been before his election employed adversely.
[05:35.140 --> 05:41.160]  When any criminal proceeding is had before an examining court in his district or before
[05:41.160 --> 05:51.000]  a judge upon habeas corpus, and he is notified of the same, and it is at the time within
[05:51.000 --> 05:55.800]  his district he shall represent the state therein unless prevented by other official
[05:55.800 --> 05:57.080]  duties.
[05:57.080 --> 06:03.080]  It shall be the primary duty of all prosecuting attorneys, including any special prosecutors,
[06:03.080 --> 06:07.360]  not to convict, but to see that justice is done.
[06:07.360 --> 06:14.360]  They shall not suppress facts or secret witnesses capable of establishing the innocence of the
[06:14.360 --> 06:15.440]  accused.
[06:15.440 --> 06:22.560]  They changed this at some point because it used to say the prosecuting attorney shall
[06:22.560 --> 06:29.960]  not secret evidence or witnesses that may show the innocence of the accused or mitigate
[06:29.960 --> 06:31.960]  the guilt of the accused.
[06:31.960 --> 06:36.200]  They took out that last portion.
[06:36.200 --> 06:40.680]  Duties of county attorneys, county attorney shall attend the terms of the court, and this
[06:40.680 --> 06:47.160]  is article 202, in his county below the grade of district and shall represent the state
[06:47.160 --> 06:54.860]  in all criminal cases under examination at prosecution in said county and in the absence
[06:54.860 --> 06:58.900]  of the district attorney, he shall represent the state alone.
[06:58.900 --> 07:06.080]  When requested, shall aid the district attorney in the prosecution of any case on behalf of
[07:06.080 --> 07:07.880]  the state in the district court.
[07:07.880 --> 07:12.960]  He shall represent the state in cases he has, oh, I'm sorry.
[07:12.960 --> 07:18.000]  He shall represent the state in cases he has prosecuted which are appealed.
[07:18.000 --> 07:23.960]  Okay, now we get to some of the good stuff.
[07:23.960 --> 07:35.400]  20.21, this is one of the new ones, duties of attorney general, the attorney general
[07:35.400 --> 07:41.080]  may offer to a county or district attorney the assistance of the attorney general's office
[07:41.080 --> 07:53.360]  in the prosecution of an offense described by article 60.051G, the victim of which is
[07:53.360 --> 08:02.200]  younger than 17 years of age at the time the offense is committed, 60.051.
[08:02.200 --> 08:05.480]  This is why I'm surprised to see this in here.
[08:05.480 --> 08:10.680]  I thought I had it marked.
[08:10.680 --> 08:13.760]  There we are.
[08:13.760 --> 08:16.440]  I'm trying to find this page here.
[08:16.440 --> 08:17.440]  I thought I had it marked.
[08:17.440 --> 08:18.440]  I must have lost my mark.
[08:18.440 --> 08:19.880]  Oh, there it is.
[08:19.880 --> 08:36.240]  What 60.051 went to is, hey, when this happens, there we go, 60.051, information in computerized
[08:36.240 --> 08:45.200]  criminal history system, information in computerized criminal history system relating to an offender
[08:45.200 --> 08:49.000]  must include the offender's name, blah, blah, blah.
[08:49.000 --> 08:53.700]  This is criminal history.
[08:53.700 --> 09:01.480]  Criminal history is kept in a computer and they passed this law specific to allow the
[09:01.480 --> 09:10.960]  district attorney to assist a prosecutor when he's prosecuting someone for apparently misusing
[09:10.960 --> 09:15.560]  a criminal history of someone under the age of 17.
[09:15.560 --> 09:20.600]  It sounds like these guys really needed something to do.
[09:20.600 --> 09:24.280]  When I look through this code, I find some very interesting and very powerful things
[09:24.280 --> 09:26.360]  that need to be done to it.
[09:26.360 --> 09:29.080]  This is certainly not one of them.
[09:29.080 --> 09:31.920]  The next one, the assistance of Texas Rangers.
[09:31.920 --> 09:37.400]  Now, we need to understand Texas Rangers.
[09:37.400 --> 09:44.560]  Texas Rangers is really not a separate office.
[09:44.560 --> 09:52.560]  A Texas Ranger is a Department of Public Safety officer who happens to be working in the Texas
[09:52.560 --> 10:01.280]  Ranger Department instead of say, traffic or other investigations.
[10:01.280 --> 10:09.440]  He's just a DPS officer and as we know from listening to Eddie Craig, a DPS officer has
[10:09.440 --> 10:17.800]  no power to enforce the criminal laws except at the request of and under the direction
[10:17.800 --> 10:19.920]  of local law enforcement.
[10:19.920 --> 10:24.760]  So, what is a Texas Ranger?
[10:24.760 --> 10:33.680]  He is just an investigator, a criminal investigator, kind of like a PI in the private sector.
[10:33.680 --> 10:36.320]  The attorney, okay, assistance of Texas Rangers.
[10:36.320 --> 10:41.200]  The attorney representing the state may request the Texas Rangers Division of the Department
[10:41.200 --> 10:47.000]  of Public Safety to provide assistance to a local law enforcement agency investigating
[10:47.000 --> 10:55.080]  an offense that is alleged to have been committed by an elected officer of the political subdivision
[10:55.080 --> 11:03.720]  served by the local law enforcement agency and on conviction or adjudication would subject
[11:03.720 --> 11:11.120]  the elected officer to registration as a sex offender under Chapter 62.
[11:11.120 --> 11:24.600]  Now, why on earth would they add a whole statute to the code of criminal procedure for something
[11:24.600 --> 11:29.840]  so highly focused?
[11:29.840 --> 11:41.720]  And what I take that to mean is that a Texas Ranger can only investigate a public official
[11:41.720 --> 11:48.160]  if the public official is accused of a sex crime.
[11:48.160 --> 11:55.120]  And in reading that statute, it's my opinion, they put that in there, not because they wanted
[11:55.120 --> 12:02.600]  Texas Rangers investigating sex crimes, but because they didn't want them investigating
[12:02.600 --> 12:07.160]  any other public officials for anything.
[12:07.160 --> 12:13.640]  For a very long time, I've been talking to Texas Rangers and they always tell me that
[12:13.640 --> 12:22.360]  a Texas Ranger cannot investigate a criminal accusation against a public official without
[12:22.360 --> 12:28.920]  the specific authorization of the colonel himself.
[12:28.920 --> 12:35.480]  So that means that our government has went to a lot of trouble to protect themselves
[12:35.480 --> 12:41.200]  and they're passing laws, it appears, for that purpose.
[12:41.200 --> 12:46.080]  Special duty of district or county attorney relating to child support, and I think this
[12:46.080 --> 12:51.240]  one was put in there because the district county attorneys are thieves.
[12:51.240 --> 12:54.800]  If a district, I'm sorry, this is 20.025.
[12:54.800 --> 12:59.760]  If a district or county attorney receives money from a person who is required by a court
[12:59.760 --> 13:06.520]  order to pay child support through a local registry or Title IV-D agency and the money
[13:06.520 --> 13:12.280]  is presented to the attorney as payment for the court order child support, the attorney
[13:12.280 --> 13:18.880]  shall transfer the money to the local registry or Title IV-D agency designated as the place
[13:18.880 --> 13:24.760]  of payment in the child support order, I suspect we have some prosecutors out there who are
[13:24.760 --> 13:30.920]  taking these payments and keeping them themselves or in their office and not distributing them
[13:30.920 --> 13:39.000]  to the agencies that are required to handle these to get these to the people who have
[13:39.000 --> 13:41.320]  a right to it.
[13:41.320 --> 13:51.880]  Now we go to one of my favorites and this part goes to prosecutorial discretion and
[13:51.880 --> 13:58.040]  I'm going to argue that there is no such thing as prosecutorial discretion.
[13:58.040 --> 14:06.760]  That's some garbage the courts made up so that they could circumvent the requirements
[14:06.760 --> 14:08.480]  of the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[14:08.480 --> 14:15.920]  Let me read 2.03, it shall be the duty of the attorney representing the state to present
[14:15.920 --> 14:21.560]  by information to the court having jurisdiction any officer for neglect or failure of any
[14:21.560 --> 14:28.720]  duty enjoined upon such officer when such neglect or failure can be represented by information.
[14:28.720 --> 14:32.800]  Whenever it shall come to the knowledge of said attorney that there has been a neglect
[14:32.800 --> 14:38.440]  or failure of duty upon the part of said officer and he shall bring to the notice of the grand
[14:38.440 --> 14:44.800]  jury any act of violation of law or neglect or failure of duty upon the part of any officer
[14:44.800 --> 14:49.920]  when such violation, neglect or failure is not represented by information and whenever
[14:49.920 --> 14:55.080]  the same may come to his knowledge.
[14:55.080 --> 14:59.560]  We talked about this before, we talked about this quite a lot.
[14:59.560 --> 15:06.920]  This is a special statute and special statutes are to be given special emphasis.
[15:06.920 --> 15:15.280]  This is a special statute because 2.04, upon complaint being made before a district or
[15:15.280 --> 15:22.560]  county attorney, that officer, that an offense has been committed in his district or county,
[15:22.560 --> 15:27.760]  he shall reduce the complaint to writing and cause the same to be signed and sworn to by
[15:27.760 --> 15:35.360]  the complainant and it shall be duly attested by said attorney 2.05, the offense be a misdemeanor.
[15:35.360 --> 15:41.360]  The attorney shall forthwith prepare an information based upon such complaint and file the same
[15:41.360 --> 15:45.560]  in the court having jurisdiction, provided that in counties having no county attorney
[15:45.560 --> 15:51.080]  misdemeanor cases may be tried upon complaint alone without an information provided.
[15:51.080 --> 15:57.920]  However, in counties having one or more criminal district courts an information must be filed
[15:57.920 --> 15:59.400]  in each misdemeanor case.
[15:59.400 --> 16:05.240]  If the offense be a felony, he shall forthwith file the complaint with a magistrate of the
[16:05.240 --> 16:06.240]  county.
[16:06.240 --> 16:14.280]  Now, where in there says he may, might or can if he wants to and the important part
[16:14.280 --> 16:22.080]  of that is these two statutes prescribe a procedure for a prosecuting attorney when
[16:22.080 --> 16:33.520]  a complaint has been made, 2.03 prescribes essentially the same procedure except it includes
[16:33.520 --> 16:36.200]  an extra requirement.
[16:36.200 --> 16:42.040]  It includes a requirement when there is no complaint and the prosecutor just knows about
[16:42.040 --> 16:43.040]  the crime.
[16:43.040 --> 16:49.920]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
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[21:00.920 --> 21:24.800]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to prosecutorial
[21:24.800 --> 21:27.800]  discretion.
[21:27.800 --> 21:32.120]  In reading this case, there is a reference to prosecutorial discretion.
[21:32.120 --> 21:40.800]  A prosecutor has no duty to file all complaints presented to her office, Taylor V. Gatley.
[21:40.800 --> 21:59.080]  And Taylor V. Gatley references an explanation of the Constitution, find it here, where it,
[21:59.080 --> 22:04.080]  here we go.
[22:04.080 --> 22:11.720]  It essentially says there, in Vernon Civil Statutes, they put in an explanatory section,
[22:11.720 --> 22:22.840]  someone did, that supposedly explained Article, where'd it go, I had all this sorted out,
[22:22.840 --> 22:25.840]  believe it or not.
[22:25.840 --> 22:28.840]  Ah, lost it.
[22:28.840 --> 22:35.520]  It was Article 15, Chapter 50, Section 51, I believe.
[22:35.520 --> 22:38.840]  And that's the one that explained the duties of a prosecuting attorney.
[22:38.840 --> 22:48.920]  Here it is, yeah, 15, Section 21.
[22:48.920 --> 22:54.040]  The county attorney's district attorneys, the county attorney for the county in which
[22:54.040 --> 23:01.200]  there is not a resident criminal district attorney, shall be elected by the qualified
[23:01.200 --> 23:05.240]  voters of the county who shall be commissioned by the governor.
[23:05.240 --> 23:12.840]  And this just goes on and tells how he's elected and how he'll hold his office.
[23:12.840 --> 23:23.120]  It does not say one word, oops, does not say one word about discretion, about how he
[23:23.120 --> 23:30.400]  actually does the function of prosecuting attorney, nothing.
[23:30.400 --> 23:35.960]  What does tell him what he'll do as a prosecutor is a Code of Criminal Procedure.
[23:35.960 --> 23:39.280]  And that Code of Criminal Procedure tells him that when he's made known that a crime's
[23:39.280 --> 23:45.040]  been committed, he shall present the complaint to some magistrate.
[23:45.040 --> 23:50.440]  If it's against a public official, he shall present a complaint to the grand jury.
[23:50.440 --> 23:53.120]  Does not say may, might, or can if he wants to.
[23:53.120 --> 23:59.040]  And it's important to understand the corpus juris.
[23:59.040 --> 24:08.080]  The case law implies that a prosecuting attorney has some discretion to decide who to prosecute
[24:08.080 --> 24:10.000]  and who not to prosecute.
[24:10.000 --> 24:16.900]  Well, the statutory scheme has a whole procedure for that purpose.
[24:16.900 --> 24:24.560]  In order to grant a prosecutor discretion, you have to bypass this entire process.
[24:24.560 --> 24:29.440]  And if you've listened to this show much, you've heard me talk about this a lot.
[24:29.440 --> 24:34.060]  The magistrate, there's a whole process for this.
[24:34.060 --> 24:37.480]  The prosecuting attorney, if he's made known that a crime's been committed, he's directed
[24:37.480 --> 24:42.720]  to give a complaint to some magistrate, but unless it's against a public official, in
[24:42.720 --> 24:46.740]  which case he should give it to the grand jury.
[24:46.740 --> 24:54.400]  And the magistrate will make a determination of probable cause, not the prosecuting attorney.
[24:54.400 --> 25:03.120]  Now if a magistrate makes a determination of probable cause and the case is a felony,
[25:03.120 --> 25:10.520]  then the magistrate after making the determination is to issue a order under 16.17 code of criminal
[25:10.520 --> 25:17.800]  procedure stating whether he bound the person at his liberty, released him at his liberty,
[25:17.800 --> 25:23.000]  bound him to the court, held him in jail, or released him on bond.
[25:23.000 --> 25:29.720]  And if there's no warrant, he's to prepare a warrant under 16.20.
[25:29.720 --> 25:36.240]  Then he's to seal all the documents, head in the hearing, and chapter 16 is the chapter
[25:36.240 --> 25:39.160]  that defines what's done in an examining trial.
[25:39.160 --> 25:44.360]  He's to seal up all the documents, head in that hearing, including the statement of the
[25:44.360 --> 25:50.360]  witness that a witness is specifically authorized by statute to give before any evidence is
[25:50.360 --> 25:52.920]  put in the court against him.
[25:52.920 --> 25:56.760]  All of those documents are to be sealed in an envelope.
[25:56.760 --> 26:02.600]  The magistrate is to write his name across the seal in the envelope and forward it sealed
[26:02.600 --> 26:06.100]  up to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[26:06.100 --> 26:12.200]  If it is a felony, the clerk of the court of jurisdiction under 17.31 is required to
[26:12.200 --> 26:16.760]  keep all of those papers safe and deliver them up to the next grand jury.
[26:16.760 --> 26:22.200]  This is how criminal complaints are intended to get to a grand jury.
[26:22.200 --> 26:30.000]  There is an exception and the exception is when a complaint is made against a public
[26:30.000 --> 26:36.160]  official or if a prosecuting attorney has knowledge that a public official has violated
[26:36.160 --> 26:42.640]  a law, he can bypass the magistrate and go directly to the grand jury.
[26:42.640 --> 26:51.440]  Now that appears like a problem because 16.01 Code of Criminal Procedure says that an accused
[26:51.440 --> 26:58.080]  has a right to an examining trial prior to indictment.
[26:58.080 --> 27:03.800]  But without taking that issue on at the moment, that's not something that has to do with the
[27:03.800 --> 27:04.800]  prosecutor.
[27:04.800 --> 27:08.280]  The prosecutor is specifically directed in what he's to do.
[27:08.280 --> 27:10.640]  He's to give it to a magistrate.
[27:10.640 --> 27:16.280]  The magistrate is to hold an examining trial and he makes the determination of whether
[27:16.280 --> 27:20.400]  or not there's sufficient evidence to believe that a crime has been committed and that the
[27:20.400 --> 27:22.660]  accused has committed that crime.
[27:22.660 --> 27:28.160]  That was not something authorized in the statutes for a prosecutor to do.
[27:28.160 --> 27:30.520]  The prosecutor does that.
[27:30.520 --> 27:39.160]  He completely bypasses all of these checks and balances written into the corpus juris
[27:39.160 --> 27:47.040]  to prevent just the kinds of abuses we're finding and complaining about with prosecuting
[27:47.040 --> 27:49.440]  attorneys.
[27:49.440 --> 27:55.840]  When prosecuting attorneys take a complaint to the grand jury, that is in Texas, it's
[27:55.840 --> 27:58.920]  absolutely illegal.
[27:58.920 --> 28:04.880]  There's this procedure he's supposed to go through, but I've never talked to a prosecutor
[28:04.880 --> 28:11.000]  who had a clue as to what it is because they never use it.
[28:11.000 --> 28:19.080]  This whole magisterial process has been eliminated in Texas corpus juris and we have all these
[28:19.080 --> 28:22.440]  politicians complaining about our overcrowded jails.
[28:22.440 --> 28:26.960]  Well, this is a reason.
[28:26.960 --> 28:32.760]  The governor's criminal justice oversight council in their 2003 report to the governor
[28:32.760 --> 28:44.320]  complained that the reason the jails are overcrowded is because prosecutors bypass the judicial
[28:44.320 --> 28:51.960]  system or the corpus juris and only force people to take a deal.
[28:51.960 --> 28:54.440]  Everything they do is designed to get them to take a deal.
[28:54.440 --> 29:02.280]  They get them to take a deal and the primary purpose of the court is to get them on probation
[29:02.280 --> 29:07.640]  because if they collect probation fees, the probation fees go to the county and not to
[29:07.640 --> 29:09.000]  the general fund.
[29:09.000 --> 29:16.280]  The prosecutors, in order to increase the general fund to the county, dramatically increases
[29:16.280 --> 29:24.760]  the cost of the prison system in total because all these people are put on probation and
[29:24.760 --> 29:28.640]  in a large part where they never should have been prosecuted in the first place and then
[29:28.640 --> 29:35.000]  if they violate probation, then they have mandatory jail time and that's what the committee
[29:35.000 --> 29:40.360]  was complaining was filling up our jails and primarily people shouldn't be there.
[29:40.360 --> 29:43.680]  They go back to following law, a lot of this stuff was sprayed itself out.
[29:43.680 --> 29:47.800]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio and when we come back, Deborah's got
[29:47.800 --> 29:50.960]  something that she wants to address.
[29:50.960 --> 29:51.960]  So hang in there.
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[33:55.840 --> 34:01.640]  Ryan Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wool of Law Radio on this March the 12th, 2015.
[34:01.640 --> 34:10.400]  And Deborah wants to talk about new legislation in the Fed that's an outcrop of this Ferguson
[34:10.400 --> 34:11.400]  fiasco.
[34:11.400 --> 34:12.400]  Go ahead, Deborah.
[34:12.400 --> 34:13.400]  Yes.
[34:13.400 --> 34:14.400]  Yes.
[34:14.400 --> 34:15.400]  This is very interesting.
[34:15.400 --> 34:25.680]  This was from a press release just this past Monday by U.S. Representative Emanuel Cleaver
[34:25.680 --> 34:26.680]  from Missouri.
[34:26.680 --> 34:31.440]  I would read the legislation, the bill, but it has not been introduced yet.
[34:31.440 --> 34:37.320]  He has just announced that he is going to introduce it, but it has very interesting
[34:37.320 --> 34:38.320]  language.
[34:38.320 --> 34:46.000]  Yeah, I would say that this is likely a response to, you know, this outrageous situation in
[34:46.000 --> 34:52.120]  Ferguson concern, and I'm not talking about the police shootings, but concerning the revenue
[34:52.120 --> 34:53.120]  generating.
[34:53.120 --> 35:00.320]  They've been busted big time by the Justice Department regarding the fact that, you know,
[35:00.320 --> 35:03.320]  all these traffic tickets and all these other things that they're doing is strictly for
[35:03.320 --> 35:05.760]  the purpose of revenue generating.
[35:05.760 --> 35:11.480]  And in that same report, which I'm going to read a little bit from, which is also on his
[35:11.480 --> 35:16.560]  website, this congressman's website, they've also busted some other towns, too.
[35:16.560 --> 35:23.160]  And so I don't know, it's like I'm not putting any trust in the government at all, okay?
[35:23.160 --> 35:29.880]  But occasionally it looks like something, at least on the surface, appears to be working.
[35:29.880 --> 35:33.160]  We'll see what really happens, okay?
[35:33.160 --> 35:39.160]  But at any rate, what's going on now is that Emmanuel Cleaver, this U.S. House Rep from
[35:39.160 --> 35:47.280]  Missouri has announced, as of this past Monday, he says actually in commemoration of the 50th
[35:47.280 --> 35:53.440]  anniversary of Selma and in response to the events of Ferguson, and I'm going to read
[35:53.440 --> 35:59.520]  some from his website now from his press release, announced his plan to introduce a bill to ban
[35:59.520 --> 36:07.880]  criminal and traffic law enforcement activities motivated by revenue raising purposes.
[36:07.880 --> 36:14.520]  He announces the introduction of the Fair Justice Act stating, quote, the time has come
[36:14.520 --> 36:20.640]  to end the practice of using law enforcement as a cash register, a practice that has impacted
[36:20.640 --> 36:28.040]  too many Americans and has disproportionately affected minority and low income communities.
[36:28.040 --> 36:33.800]  No American should have to face arbitrary police enforcement, the sole purpose of which
[36:33.800 --> 36:39.200]  is to raise revenue for a town, city, or state, end quote.
[36:39.200 --> 36:45.160]  And so next the press release goes on to explain what the bill would be about.
[36:45.160 --> 36:51.360]  The Fair Justice Act would make it a civil rights violation punishable by up to five
[36:51.360 --> 36:58.040]  years in prison to enforce criminal or traffic laws solely to raise revenue.
[36:58.040 --> 37:06.020]  Thus no official or agency of a state or county, city, town, or other political subdivision
[37:06.020 --> 37:14.040]  may adopt a policy or engage in any activity that authorizes, promotes, or executes the
[37:14.040 --> 37:22.640]  enforcement of criminal, civil, or traffic laws for the purpose of raising revenue.
[37:22.640 --> 37:23.800]  And I'm going to pause from here.
[37:23.800 --> 37:30.760]  This is pretty incredible because that would eliminate about 90% plus of what goes on with
[37:30.760 --> 37:35.720]  police work currently and what has been going on for who knows how many years.
[37:35.720 --> 37:41.680]  And in fact, Tom Carley was talking on his show, I don't believe it was tonight, but
[37:41.680 --> 37:49.600]  recently how there was this backlash in New York City of the police department.
[37:49.600 --> 37:52.320]  They were disgruntled at the mayor.
[37:52.320 --> 37:54.800]  And so they just said, well, you know what?
[37:54.800 --> 38:00.840]  We're not going to enforce any traffic laws, we're not going to write any tickets, we're
[38:00.840 --> 38:05.560]  not going to do any of that revenue generating work, we're only going to do what's absolutely
[38:05.560 --> 38:06.560]  necessary.
[38:06.560 --> 38:14.000]  It's like, oh, good, that's what's supposed to happen, you know, so very interesting situation.
[38:14.000 --> 38:19.040]  No one in Times Square was arrested for being drunk this past New Year's Eve and all this
[38:19.040 --> 38:20.040]  kind of business.
[38:20.040 --> 38:26.560]  I mean, it actually was like, seemed to be what's supposed to be a legitimate function
[38:26.560 --> 38:32.600]  of a police department where they only did what was absolutely necessary, like arresting
[38:32.600 --> 38:41.320]  people who are harming other people, like murders and assaults and robberies and things
[38:41.320 --> 38:42.320]  like this.
[38:42.320 --> 38:48.640]  So anyways, there seems to be a vibe in the air, so to speak, about this sort of thing.
[38:48.640 --> 38:53.960]  And I'm going to find out more from Tom what exactly is going on in New York City there.
[38:53.960 --> 38:59.880]  But anyway, back to what's going on with this law introduced in the Fed, this is in Congress,
[38:59.880 --> 39:08.160]  US Congress, US House, going to be introduced, okay, it says that this legislation will help
[39:08.160 --> 39:12.960]  prevent the kind of reprehensible activities that occurred in Ferguson, Missouri, where
[39:12.960 --> 39:17.680]  the Department of Justice found that Ferguson's law enforcement practices were shaped by the
[39:17.680 --> 39:21.840]  city's overwhelming focus on raising revenue rather than protecting the public.
[39:21.840 --> 39:23.320]  And here's a quote from him.
[39:23.320 --> 39:28.640]  He says, quote, it is a common practice of certain law enforcement officials of state
[39:28.640 --> 39:33.800]  and local municipalities to target communities solely for profit.
[39:33.800 --> 39:39.440]  Americans of all stripes have faced this, but there can be no doubt that minorities
[39:39.440 --> 39:43.040]  and low income residents have faced the brunt of this.
[39:43.040 --> 39:48.200]  Make no mistake, the Fair Justice Act is needed now more than ever in order to finally put
[39:48.200 --> 39:55.960]  an end to criminal and traffic law enforcement activities motivated solely by raising revenue,
[39:55.960 --> 39:58.620]  said Congressman Cleaver.
[39:58.620 --> 40:00.200]  And so this is very interesting.
[40:00.200 --> 40:01.800]  I don't know if this is going to pass.
[40:01.800 --> 40:07.960]  I don't know if this congressman is just grandstanding to, you know, try to gain more political support
[40:07.960 --> 40:08.960]  by his constituency.
[40:08.960 --> 40:13.840]  I mean, we'll see how much support this bill is actually going to have.
[40:13.840 --> 40:19.960]  And even if it passes into law, you know, how well it will be enforced is yet to be
[40:19.960 --> 40:20.960]  seen.
[40:20.960 --> 40:23.360]  But I would say it's a good start.
[40:23.360 --> 40:31.840]  And I'm going to go on here where it talks about the U.S. Justice Department report.
[40:31.840 --> 40:36.800]  It says there were, okay, the Department of Justice report on the Ferguson Police Department
[40:36.800 --> 40:42.280]  offers examples of other unfortunate incidents in recent years outside of Ferguson across
[40:42.280 --> 40:43.580]  the U.S.
[40:43.580 --> 40:48.400]  In Jennings, Missouri, a new lawsuit alleges that the court system has almost exclusively
[40:48.400 --> 40:55.480]  black defendants who are routinely sent to jail for failing to pay minor traffic fines.
[40:55.480 --> 41:01.760]  In Alabama, which has made heavy budget cuts to court funding, several lawsuits contend
[41:01.760 --> 41:08.400]  that local courts perpetuate a cycle of steep fines for minor offenses and jail those who
[41:08.400 --> 41:09.940]  cannot pay.
[41:09.940 --> 41:15.360]  In California, residents in the predominantly Latino community of southeast Los Angeles
[41:15.360 --> 41:20.080]  County have complained for years that they are unfairly targeted by city officials for
[41:20.080 --> 41:21.080]  profit.
[41:21.080 --> 41:26.800]  Citizens alleged that the city extracted tens of thousands of dollars from plumbers, carpet
[41:26.800 --> 41:32.960]  cleaners, even people scavenging for bottles and cans by seizing vehicles for alleged code
[41:32.960 --> 41:37.120]  violations and then pressuring the owners to pay arbitrary fines.
[41:37.120 --> 41:41.240]  Additionally, it was reported that local law enforcement officers targeted immigrants
[41:41.240 --> 41:46.520]  in the U.S. without proper papers by using towing schemes.
[41:46.520 --> 41:50.360]  Police would pull over drivers simply to impound their cars, forcing the drivers to pay large
[41:50.360 --> 41:51.360]  impound fees.
[41:51.360 --> 41:58.360]  This is quite incredible, and if this bill passes, like I said, we'll see how well it's
[41:58.360 --> 42:06.440]  enforced, but it has very broad ramifications, I would say reaching all the way to code enforcement
[42:06.440 --> 42:10.880]  of properties and buildings and things like that because believe me, man, what's going
[42:10.880 --> 42:14.720]  on in Austin right now, and I'm sure it's across the nation, but especially in Austin
[42:14.720 --> 42:19.800]  because Austin has become like the model U.N. Agenda 21 city.
[42:19.800 --> 42:27.800]  It's like, I mean, seriously, it is so amped up, the code enforcement issue, and it obviously
[42:27.800 --> 42:29.640]  is strictly for revenue.
[42:29.640 --> 42:35.320]  So that would put a clamp down, that would really rain on the parade of all this revenue
[42:35.320 --> 42:37.920]  generating by these code enforcers.
[42:37.920 --> 42:43.120]  It has far reaching activity because it says not just traffic, but civil as well.
[42:43.120 --> 42:48.040]  So Randy, what do you think about this, civil rights violation punishable by up to five
[42:48.040 --> 42:49.040]  years in prison?
[42:49.040 --> 42:55.560]  So it sounds legit to me, do the feds, does the fed, actually the federal congress, do
[42:55.560 --> 43:01.800]  they have the authority to enact such laws as this that would apparently regulate or
[43:01.800 --> 43:07.280]  put some kind of limitation on municipal governments considering that these municipalities are
[43:07.280 --> 43:10.720]  actually creatures of their respective states?
[43:10.720 --> 43:18.320]  I think this, even if it doesn't get passed, it will alert the public to the fact that
[43:18.320 --> 43:26.160]  whether they have this legislation or not, the type of activity the legislation is intended
[43:26.160 --> 43:31.760]  to address is already a civil rights violation.
[43:31.760 --> 43:37.840]  And where a municipality is participating in this practice, that goes to RICO.
[43:37.840 --> 43:40.840]  Yes, I think so.
[43:40.840 --> 43:42.680]  Let's discuss this more on the other side.
[43:42.680 --> 43:47.520]  Callers, if you all want to call in, maybe just hold off a little bit for us to finish
[43:47.520 --> 43:48.520]  this discussion.
[43:48.520 --> 43:51.480]  Why don't you all start calling in towards the end of this segment.
[43:51.480 --> 43:54.480]  You can call in 512-646-1984.
[43:54.480 --> 44:02.400]  We're going to talk some more about this legislation on the other side.
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[45:59.920 --> 46:12.320]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[46:12.320 --> 46:15.840]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[46:15.840 --> 46:18.680]  Eddie Craig is on Monday nights.
[46:18.680 --> 46:21.760]  We are talking about traffic issues in a sense tonight.
[46:21.760 --> 46:27.200]  This new piece of legislation that is pending, it has not yet been introduced, but we are
[46:27.200 --> 46:36.880]  reading from the website of Congressman Emanuel Cleaver II, represented from Missouri, who
[46:36.880 --> 46:43.960]  has announced on his website in a press release that he does intend to introduce this legislation
[46:43.960 --> 46:48.760]  called the Fair Justice Act that would make it a civil rights violation punishable by
[46:48.760 --> 46:55.600]  up to five years in prison to enforce criminal or traffic laws solely for the purpose of
[46:55.600 --> 47:05.040]  raising revenue, and it also prohibits state, county, city, town, or other political subdivisions
[47:05.040 --> 47:12.720]  from adopting a policy or engage in any activity that authorizes, promotes, or executes the
[47:12.720 --> 47:19.120]  enforcement of criminal, civil, or traffic laws for the purpose of raising revenue.
[47:19.120 --> 47:26.280]  And you know, Randy, it's like these municipal police departments, they almost never admit
[47:26.280 --> 47:30.760]  publicly that they have quotas, right, because they know that that's a no-no.
[47:30.760 --> 47:38.040]  But in their meetings, they do pressure the higher-ups, the sergeants, et cetera, pressure
[47:38.040 --> 47:44.700]  the underlings to meet these quotas, and in fact, there was even recently, and I need
[47:44.700 --> 47:54.280]  to get the sourcing on this, a police officer who blew the whistle on such a thing and got
[47:54.280 --> 47:58.360]  set up and sent to some kind of mental health institution for it.
[47:58.360 --> 48:03.200]  They will really run these people through the wringer for crossing that thin blue line,
[48:03.200 --> 48:10.760]  so to speak, and so if this bill is adopted and these agencies are obviously not going
[48:10.760 --> 48:18.080]  to publicly or on the books state these policies, it's going to require some inside whistleblowers
[48:18.080 --> 48:23.480]  in order for something to really be done about it, like recording meetings or, you know,
[48:23.480 --> 48:27.800]  making emails public or, you know, things like that.
[48:27.800 --> 48:30.920]  You know, I would think that that might be necessary.
[48:30.920 --> 48:34.920]  Well, consider Mike Handel's case.
[48:34.920 --> 48:36.840]  We have a lot of cases like that.
[48:36.840 --> 48:45.160]  It is consistent in the municipal courts that if anyone brings law into the municipal courts,
[48:45.160 --> 48:52.880]  the municipal court judges will deny them the ability to bring the law to the jury out
[48:52.880 --> 48:54.040]  of hand.
[48:54.040 --> 48:58.040]  This has been the one thing I've seen that's consistent.
[48:58.040 --> 48:59.240]  They just simply deny it.
[48:59.240 --> 49:02.400]  I had the same thing done to me when I was prosecuted.
[49:02.400 --> 49:07.120]  The courts just do not allow the law in that would exonerate you.
[49:07.120 --> 49:11.680]  They just don't allow it before the court and in municipal courts, it costs too much
[49:11.680 --> 49:17.000]  to appeal and they make it so hard to appeal that it's economically unfeasible.
[49:17.000 --> 49:21.440]  You have to pay them double the amount of the fine and then even if you win, you'll
[49:21.440 --> 49:26.400]  never get that money back because once they got it, you'll never get it.
[49:26.400 --> 49:30.640]  Well, you can get it back, but man, it's very difficult and it takes a long time, that's
[49:30.640 --> 49:31.640]  for sure.
[49:31.640 --> 49:36.480]  They do this on purpose to make sure that you don't resist their complaint.
[49:36.480 --> 49:39.760]  A policeman can charge you with anything he wants.
[49:39.760 --> 49:44.120]  If this law passes, that would pretty much put an end to all that.
[49:44.120 --> 49:48.240]  It would put a damper on it, that's for sure, especially if they start getting sued over
[49:48.240 --> 49:55.400]  it under this law because then if somebody is denied due process in this manner in their
[49:55.400 --> 50:00.560]  municipal case, sure, they may lose the appeal.
[50:00.560 --> 50:05.480]  They may not be able to even appeal, so they may lose their municipal case, but then they
[50:05.480 --> 50:10.520]  can turn around and file a federal lawsuit against these clowns under the Fair Justice
[50:10.520 --> 50:11.520]  Act.
[50:11.520 --> 50:14.360]  I certainly hope we can get it.
[50:14.360 --> 50:17.760]  I don't expect that we will.
[50:17.760 --> 50:23.160]  We'll have a lot of politicians huffing and puffing and waving their arms in righteous
[50:23.160 --> 50:32.080]  indignation just to get the approval of the public, but then they won't let this happen.
[50:32.080 --> 50:33.080]  We'll see.
[50:33.080 --> 50:38.320]  Now, Randy, you were saying that one thing that's clear anyway, that at least there's
[50:38.320 --> 50:43.920]  a message to the public that regarding the civil rights violation that even if this bill
[50:43.920 --> 50:49.380]  doesn't pass, the message is it already is a civil rights violation.
[50:49.380 --> 50:54.280]  People can already sue under civil rights violations for this, and they should be.
[50:54.280 --> 51:02.520]  Yes, and under RICO, because this goes exactly to RICO, predicate acts in furtherance of
[51:02.520 --> 51:06.280]  an ongoing criminal conspiracy.
[51:06.280 --> 51:08.320]  We can always do this.
[51:08.320 --> 51:18.520]  People didn't know it, and by promoting this legislation, I suspect it will put a damper
[51:18.520 --> 51:25.080]  on the police's activities, at least while this is in the news.
[51:25.080 --> 51:29.920]  If we could get a couple of these municipalities hammered pretty good, and I think Austin would
[51:29.920 --> 51:37.280]  be the best one in Texas because it is in the seat of government, and from what I've
[51:37.280 --> 51:42.520]  seen of Austin, they are outrageous in their municipal courts, so they will be easy to
[51:42.520 --> 51:43.520]  go after.
[51:43.520 --> 51:44.520]  Oh, absolutely.
[51:44.520 --> 51:46.320]  And they're outrageous in their city ordinances, too.
[51:46.320 --> 51:54.120]  Say, for example, this new city ordinance that Austin is now hands-free, oh, it's so
[51:54.120 --> 52:01.760]  trendy to have this city ordinance, it's so whatever, it's so cool, so avant-garde that
[52:01.760 --> 52:06.680]  we're a hands-free city now, you can't hold the cell phone up to your... It's like, well,
[52:06.680 --> 52:10.560]  what else are you going to say that we can't do when we're driving?
[52:10.560 --> 52:14.560]  How about we pass a city ordinance that says you can't put on makeup while you're driving?
[52:14.560 --> 52:18.080]  How about we pass a city ordinance that says you can't use an electric razor for the guys,
[52:18.080 --> 52:19.120]  can't shave while you're driving?
[52:19.120 --> 52:21.320]  How about you can't paint your toenails while you're driving?
[52:21.320 --> 52:27.760]  You can come up with a million things that are either obscure or commonplace that people
[52:27.760 --> 52:29.040]  do while they're driving.
[52:29.040 --> 52:34.160]  How about you can't look down at your stereo system, at your radio to change channels?
[52:34.160 --> 52:36.600]  How about you can't do that either?
[52:36.600 --> 52:37.600]  Come on, people.
[52:37.600 --> 52:39.800]  This is totally ridiculous.
[52:39.800 --> 52:44.220]  The only purpose for this city ordinance is obviously for revenue generating.
[52:44.220 --> 52:50.320]  It's not based on any state law, which means that it can't stand up in court.
[52:50.320 --> 52:55.520]  Municipalities cannot enact any ordinances that are binding upon the citizenry that are
[52:55.520 --> 52:57.000]  not based on the state law.
[52:57.000 --> 52:58.880]  They are not independent fiefdoms.
[52:58.880 --> 53:02.000]  They're not little independent nation states.
[53:02.000 --> 53:04.200]  Municipalities can't enact law.
[53:04.200 --> 53:08.320]  Only the Texas legislature can enact law in the state of Texas.
[53:08.320 --> 53:13.320]  Any ordinances in these municipalities either have to be based on state law or if they're
[53:13.320 --> 53:18.800]  not based on state law, they are like corporate rules that only apply to city workers like
[53:18.800 --> 53:21.560]  dress codes and things like that.
[53:21.560 --> 53:24.280]  This ordinance is not going to stand.
[53:24.280 --> 53:31.800]  I think that not only is it not based on any Texas law, there already is a Texas law against
[53:31.800 --> 53:33.800]  distracted driving.
[53:33.800 --> 53:37.920]  That's all you need, whether it's using your cell phone or using whatever.
[53:37.920 --> 53:39.640]  It doesn't matter.
[53:39.640 --> 53:44.560]  It's things like this that people need to start being more aware of that this is strictly
[53:44.560 --> 53:47.560]  for revenue generating, strictly for revenue generating.
[53:47.560 --> 53:55.200]  Austin's one of the worst, Randi, because it is the model agenda, UN Agenda 21 city,
[53:55.200 --> 53:56.200]  really.
[53:56.200 --> 53:57.200]  Go ahead.
[53:57.200 --> 53:59.360]  So it's a good one to take on.
[53:59.360 --> 54:00.920]  Yeah, absolutely.
[54:00.920 --> 54:05.580]  And Austin's kind of the center of the legal reform movement.
[54:05.580 --> 54:14.520]  If we can get some folks up off their keisters and get them actually suing the city.
[54:14.520 --> 54:16.800]  They really, really hate that.
[54:16.800 --> 54:21.240]  Well, Randi, people do need to take action because, I mean, check it out.
[54:21.240 --> 54:22.240]  Things can change.
[54:22.240 --> 54:30.580]  I mean, as a result of this Justice Department report, the Supreme Court of Missouri basically
[54:30.580 --> 54:38.040]  issued an order saying that this Judge Ronald Brockmeyer had to be removed, this municipal
[54:38.040 --> 54:42.680]  judge who was participating in this revenue scheme.
[54:42.680 --> 54:47.160]  So the Supreme Court of Missouri got involved in this.
[54:47.160 --> 54:52.080]  The police chief and the city manager were both forced out, forced to resign.
[54:52.080 --> 54:54.040]  So these people actually did get pushed out.
[54:54.040 --> 54:55.640]  Now, they should be in jail.
[54:55.640 --> 55:01.840]  They should be having lawsuits stacked up against them by the hundreds for civil rights
[55:01.840 --> 55:05.840]  violations, but at least they are out.
[55:05.840 --> 55:11.400]  So I mean, this is pretty amazing that these people actually did get forced out of office.
[55:11.400 --> 55:12.880]  I think that that's a pretty good sign.
[55:12.880 --> 55:14.680]  Wouldn't you say, Randi?
[55:14.680 --> 55:15.680]  Yes.
[55:15.680 --> 55:22.320]  And in listening to that, it might be a real good idea if we have all these people, especially
[55:22.320 --> 55:29.040]  ones that Eddie is training, going in with really strong legal arguments and the court
[55:29.040 --> 55:33.920]  simply denies their argument without hearing it.
[55:33.920 --> 55:41.320]  Now, I have some cases where I filed a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction and the JP
[55:41.320 --> 55:44.680]  refused to read it.
[55:44.680 --> 55:55.880]  So this legislation points to the validity of a petition for Coahuanto removal.
[55:55.880 --> 56:00.960]  So we start petitioning the Supreme Court to remove these municipal judges.
[56:00.960 --> 56:04.920]  We're the ones that's going to make it happen.
[56:04.920 --> 56:08.520]  We can't trust our politicians to do the job.
[56:08.520 --> 56:09.960]  They're not there to help us.
[56:09.960 --> 56:13.700]  They're there to help their interests.
[56:13.700 --> 56:15.240]  So we need to do it.
[56:15.240 --> 56:20.400]  And the way we do it is figure out where the politics is.
[56:20.400 --> 56:22.760]  And the politics all goes to the money.
[56:22.760 --> 56:26.120]  Where can we cost them a fortune?
[56:26.120 --> 56:30.360]  And I also think that we need to figure out how to push things like this into the media
[56:30.360 --> 56:37.320]  because, okay, let me read this quote from Brendan Roediger, or if I'm pronouncing it
[56:37.320 --> 56:44.680]  right, R-O-E-D-I-G-E-R, he's a civil rights attorney and a St. Louis University law professor
[56:44.680 --> 56:50.520]  who is involved in a lawsuit against Ferguson and a neighboring municipality.
[56:50.520 --> 56:57.840]  And Roediger says, quote, Brockmeyer was never the worst municipal court judge in the St.
[56:57.840 --> 57:01.440]  Louis region where similar conflicts exist in many courtrooms.
[57:01.440 --> 57:04.360]  Okay, so Ferguson's not even the worst of the worst.
[57:04.360 --> 57:07.880]  I mean, this attorney who knows what's going on because he's involved in these kind of
[57:07.880 --> 57:15.000]  civil lawsuits, civil rights lawsuits, basically saying there's a lot worse going on than Ferguson.
[57:15.000 --> 57:17.560]  But Ferguson just happened to be the target.
[57:17.560 --> 57:23.880]  And I'm not even quite sure why Ferguson got so high on the radar, you know, so visible
[57:23.880 --> 57:28.320]  on the radar of the Department of Justice, probably just because of everything that went
[57:28.320 --> 57:30.040]  down because of this police shooting.
[57:30.040 --> 57:35.560]  I would imagine that got the eye of Sauron, you know, pointed at Ferguson.
[57:35.560 --> 57:40.400]  And so now they're trying to, you know, make it look like we're doing something about the
[57:40.400 --> 57:41.400]  corruption here.
[57:41.400 --> 57:42.400]  I don't know.
[57:42.400 --> 57:43.400]  What do you think, Randy?
[57:43.400 --> 57:49.520]  But if we can keep this momentum going, we may be able to come out of this with something
[57:49.520 --> 57:54.960]  that can change the structure of the system.
[57:54.960 --> 58:02.200]  And when we come back, I'll talk about a proposed, a white paper that I'm developing, and there's
[58:02.200 --> 58:09.000]  a representative Sutton in the Houston area that's proposing changes to the Chapter 19
[58:09.000 --> 58:11.120]  Code of Criminal Procedure, grand juries.
[58:11.120 --> 58:14.200]  I want to propose a change to Chapter 20.
[58:14.200 --> 58:19.240]  We may be able to slide something in that will destabilize everything they're doing.
[58:19.240 --> 58:20.960]  And I'll talk about that when we come back.
[58:20.960 --> 58:23.800]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
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[01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:38.800]  In the news, two police officers were shot and seriously wounded early this morning outside
[01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:41.160]  the police department in Ferguson, Missouri.
[01:00:41.160 --> 01:00:45.000]  Fox News reports that St. Louis County Police Chief John Belmar held an early morning news
[01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.120]  conference and stated that a 41-year-old officer from St. Louis County was shot in the shoulder,
[01:00:50.120 --> 01:00:54.520]  while a 32-year-old officer from suburban Webster Gross was shot in the face.
[01:00:54.520 --> 01:00:59.080]  Both officers were taken to a local hospital with their conditions described as very serious.
[01:00:59.080 --> 01:01:03.440]  The shooting came amidst protests that followed the resignation of the town's police chief.
[01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:06.920]  Chief Thomas Jackson announced he would resign following a report from the U.S. Department
[01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.800]  of Justice that condemned the practices of the Ferguson Police Department.
[01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.600]  Jackson is only the latest in a line of recent departures after the Justice Department's
[01:01:14.600 --> 01:01:16.600]  investigation concluded.
[01:01:16.600 --> 01:01:21.800]  The report found that the Ferguson PD was guilty of unlawful and unconstitutional practices.
[01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.680]  The Justice Department also found widespread racism in the police department and municipal
[01:01:25.680 --> 01:01:26.680]  court.
[01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:30.760]  Despite calls to shut down the police department, Ferguson Mayor James Knowles said the city
[01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:36.000]  is committed to keeping the police department open.
[01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:40.320]  On Wednesday afternoon, protesters gathered in Decatur, Georgia to protest the shooting
[01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.640]  death of a military veteran at the hands of a police officer.
[01:01:43.640 --> 01:01:48.600]  Anthony Hill was a 27-year-old military veteran suffering from bipolar disorder when he was
[01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:50.840]  shot by Officer Robert Olson.
[01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:55.480]  The officer reportedly found Hill running around naked in a suburban apartment complex.
[01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.760]  The officer said Hill came towards him and would not listen to warnings.
[01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.440]  Olson reportedly appeared shocked after the shooting and was seen sitting down on the
[01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.840]  street with his head in his hands.
[01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.600]  The Georgia Bureau of Investigation will now handle the official investigation.
[01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:13.000]  Protesters rallied outside of a county courthouse and marched through the streets, shutting
[01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.280]  down busy intersections.
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[01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:20.400]  Okay.
[01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:21.400]  We are back.
[01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:23.280]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Real Vow Radio.
[01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:34.160]  When we went out, I was talking about a change if we can get this change made, we can undermine
[01:04:34.160 --> 01:04:35.160]  everything.
[01:04:35.160 --> 01:04:45.400]  Now, I've written a white paper and it asks for a number of changes in chapter 20 of the
[01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.000]  Texas Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:54.960]  Chapter 20 goes to duties of grand jurors or essentially how the grand jury system works.
[01:04:54.960 --> 01:05:04.280]  We have a representative Sutton that has proposed a bill to change parts of chapter 19.
[01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:17.040]  Chapter 19 goes to how a grand jury is impaneled and his changes adjust somewhat the way the
[01:05:17.040 --> 01:05:22.040]  commission does two different processes for impaneling grand jurors.
[01:05:22.040 --> 01:05:28.080]  One uses commissioners where public officials around the county put names of people they
[01:05:28.080 --> 01:05:34.520]  feel will be good grand jurors in an envelope and they all give the envelopes to the clerk
[01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:45.080]  and then the clerk at a meeting opens all of these and then between 20 and I think 50
[01:05:45.080 --> 01:05:54.240]  grand jurors are summoned and then from those grand jurors, they pick a panel of 12 grand
[01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:58.000]  jurors and I think two or three alternates, I forget how many.
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.960]  Okay, there was adjusting that.
[01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:09.440]  What I want to change is chapter 20 and chapter 20 addresses more the procedural aspect of
[01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.000]  grand jurors.
[01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:16.480]  Now, I haven't just read it recently so I may not have all the numbers exactly right.
[01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:21.000]  Right at the beginning of chapter 20, there is the section in there that says what all
[01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:32.920]  is secret and then everything that goes on before the grand jury is essentially secret
[01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:39.960]  but the grand jury is authorized to seek legal advice from the prosecutor or the district
[01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:53.480]  judge and what I want to say is when the grand jury seeks legal advice, that is not a function
[01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.120]  of the grand jury.
[01:06:56.120 --> 01:07:07.480]  That's not a function that would be construed as the part of the grand jury's duties that
[01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:14.200]  are secret because when they go to the prosecuting attorney, he is not acting in his official
[01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:17.040]  capacity as a prosecutor.
[01:07:17.040 --> 01:07:20.520]  He's not doing a presentation to the grand jury.
[01:07:20.520 --> 01:07:22.640]  He's not examining a witness.
[01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:32.280]  He's giving legal advice so he's their attorney and since the grand jury are our public officials,
[01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:37.480]  advice to our officials should not be private.
[01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:44.240]  When the prosecutor gives advice on law to a grand jury, that should not be secret.
[01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:50.000]  I talked to my prosecuting attorney in Wise County and I think if there is such thing
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:56.800]  as a fair and honest prosecutor, this guy is it and when I mentioned that to him, that
[01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:05.640]  the only way you could effectively manipulate a grand jury is by giving them false legal
[01:08:05.640 --> 01:08:14.880]  advice and he said, that's right and I asked, would you have any objection to a statute
[01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:20.440]  that would require any legal advice that you give to a grand juror to be made public?
[01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:25.200]  He said, I don't have a problem with that at all because it really doesn't go to the
[01:08:25.200 --> 01:08:26.800]  function of the grand jury.
[01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:31.800]  It goes to how the grand jury is directed to perform their functions.
[01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:43.360]  So I want an adjustment to, I think it's 20.02 that says that when a prosecutor gives legal
[01:08:43.360 --> 01:08:48.280]  advice to the grand jury or when the grand jury petitions the district court for legal
[01:08:48.280 --> 01:08:52.360]  advice, that advice should be made public.
[01:08:52.360 --> 01:08:59.040]  So we know how the grand jury has been instructed concerning law.
[01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:06.720]  The notion that we could pick 12 people and manipulate 12 people into doing what we want
[01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.400]  them to do, that is ludicrous.
[01:09:11.400 --> 01:09:16.920]  I'm married to one and I can never manipulate her into doing anything.
[01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:24.960]  To think you could manipulate 12 separate individuals, you may be able to manipulate
[01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:33.600]  them slightly in focused circumstances, but for the most part grand jurors do what they
[01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.640]  think is right.
[01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:43.800]  Travis County, I went to the district clerk and got the minutes of the grand jury and
[01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:48.600]  they have four grand jurors going on at once, three or four.
[01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:55.180]  So they have a grand jury meeting every day and every day they present their findings
[01:09:55.180 --> 01:10:00.220]  to the court and the clerk shall make notes in the minutes of the court.
[01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:07.920]  So I looked at those minutes and every single one of them, everyone without exception had
[01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:11.500]  at least one no bill on it.
[01:10:11.500 --> 01:10:16.640]  So the prosecutor presented all these things to get a true bill, but the grand jury did
[01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:21.120]  what they thought was right and he didn't get everything he wanted.
[01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:28.960]  And my prosecutor, once I went in and he was just distraught and he said, those darn grand
[01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:38.480]  jurors, you never know what they're going to do and I thought, hallelujah, I could not
[01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:39.820]  have heard anything better.
[01:10:39.820 --> 01:10:47.040]  So grand jurors, even if they're very carefully handpicked, they're still individuals, best
[01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:51.080]  institution our founders put in place.
[01:10:51.080 --> 01:10:55.080]  The only way to really manipulate them is with false legal advice.
[01:10:55.080 --> 01:10:58.320]  So we make that public.
[01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:04.240]  The real change that I want, there's a couple others in there that are real technical that
[01:11:04.240 --> 01:11:13.600]  support this issue, the real one we want is 20.09 says it shall be the duty of the grand
[01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:21.560]  jury to examine into all criminal accusations that are within the knowledge of the grand
[01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:29.880]  juror or come to their knowledge by way of the prosecuting attorney or any credible person.
[01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:45.800]  And in order to facilitate the intent of article 20.09, I would make 20.09 20.09A and add 20.09B.
[01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:54.760]  The grand jury shall set aside time at each meeting to hear complaints by private citizens.
[01:11:54.760 --> 01:12:03.560]  Guys, that will change everything.
[01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:10.740]  And I get a lot of guff about when I say that I never really want to get a public official
[01:12:10.740 --> 01:12:15.920]  indicted when I file complaints against public officials, that's not my purpose.
[01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:21.160]  If it ever becomes my purpose, I need to quit doing this because then I'm not trying to
[01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:27.740]  serve a better good, but serving my own personal petulant passions.
[01:12:27.740 --> 01:12:30.640]  My purpose is to fix the system.
[01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:35.000]  We could take all the public officials we have, throw them out of all office and replace
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.200]  them all and we'd wind up the same mess.
[01:12:38.200 --> 01:12:42.920]  Better take one we got and whack them good and leave them in there.
[01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.520]  The court of criminal appeals about five years ago got all of them put in front of the grand
[01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:52.000]  jury for demanding a motion for leave to file a writ of habeas corpus.
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:55.280]  I said, are you kidding me?
[01:12:55.280 --> 01:12:56.760]  habeas corpus is a writ of right.
[01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:01.360]  These guys have no authority to grant or deny leave to file.
[01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:02.800]  Well, they wouldn't take it without it.
[01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:04.280]  And I was trying to get a kid out of jail.
[01:13:04.280 --> 01:13:06.360]  So I filed a motion for leave to file.
[01:13:06.360 --> 01:13:07.360]  They denied it.
[01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:09.360]  I took them to grand jury.
[01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:12.760]  It took me over a year to get them in front of the grand jury.
[01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:16.720]  And it was Ron Earl that scoundrel was all political.
[01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:22.680]  He was not running for office again, 25 year Democrat, they're all Republicans.
[01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:27.240]  He tried to take them out with him and used my complaint to do that with.
[01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:34.340]  They did not indict these 15 judges, but they did receive the complaint on their first day
[01:13:34.340 --> 01:13:38.480]  in office, no build them on their last day in office.
[01:13:38.480 --> 01:13:44.560]  So for three months, all 15 of these judges are wondering if their careers are going to
[01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:46.760]  end tomorrow.
[01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:51.720]  If you file a writ of habeas corpus in the state of Texas with the court of criminal
[01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:57.800]  appeals, you will not be asked to file a motion for leave to file.
[01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.360]  That stuff ended and that was the purpose.
[01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:08.040]  So we don't want them indicted, but we do want this policeman who's had a bad day yesterday
[01:14:08.040 --> 01:14:13.120]  got too late with his buddies drinking, woke up with late with a hangover.
[01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:18.280]  The sergeant's on his case and he is miserable and his wife's mad at him to boot and he pulls
[01:14:18.280 --> 01:14:23.400]  me over and I am my usual obnoxious and demanding self.
[01:14:23.400 --> 01:14:31.840]  And he gets this notion that he might like to give me an attitude adjustment.
[01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:40.480]  If he has to consider the likelihood of explaining his behavior to a grand jury of my peers,
[01:14:40.480 --> 01:14:50.120]  not his peers, that is very likely to curb his personal passions and invoke his professionalism.
[01:14:50.120 --> 01:14:52.160]  That's what we really want.
[01:14:52.160 --> 01:15:02.000]  If we can get this addition and the nice thing about it is it does not in any way interfere
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:06.960]  with or conflict with the duties of the grand jury.
[01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.720]  It doesn't cost anymore.
[01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:13.280]  Those are the two primary things when you're proposing legislation.
[01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:20.080]  Will it conflict with the corpus juris and what will it cost and if it costs, where do
[01:15:20.080 --> 01:15:22.400]  we find the money to cover the costs?
[01:15:22.400 --> 01:15:27.800]  Well, this won't cost anything if it costs a meeting anyway.
[01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:32.560]  And they used to have this in Fort Worth when I first moved here, but they quit doing it
[01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.760]  because nobody showed up.
[01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:41.360]  And I say, duh, that means it was working.
[01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:44.680]  If nobody shows up, then perfect, keep doing it.
[01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:46.800]  It's not costing anything.
[01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.960]  You provide the time, nobody shows up, you go home.
[01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:55.960]  But that policeman on the street, every time he's in a bad mood and decides to do something
[01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:05.820]  a little bit inappropriate, every public official will have to gauge their every action and
[01:16:05.820 --> 01:16:16.440]  reaction by the temperament of a grand jury of my peers.
[01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:22.440]  This is how we will undermine them and they won't even see it coming.
[01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:25.480]  And that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[01:16:25.480 --> 01:16:29.440]  We have a couple of callers and as soon as we come back, we will go to you, go to the
[01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:30.440]  callers.
[01:16:30.440 --> 01:16:33.920]  We have Boris in Texas and Jay in Texas.
[01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:41.200]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, I call it number 512-646-1984.
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[01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:48.120]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio and we're going to go to
[01:19:48.120 --> 01:19:49.120]  your calls.
[01:19:49.120 --> 01:19:51.120]  We're going to Boris in Texas.
[01:19:51.120 --> 01:19:54.120]  Hello Boris, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:19:54.120 --> 01:19:55.120]  Yes, Randy.
[01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:58.120]  Thanks for letting me get through.
[01:19:58.120 --> 01:20:03.240]  Well, now earlier you were talking about Austin and the stuff that's going on there and I
[01:20:03.240 --> 01:20:07.400]  think that provides a good running start for our situation.
[01:20:07.400 --> 01:20:12.000]  I live in Denton, Texas up north.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.360]  Just go to Denton County Courthouse and say, I'm a friend of Randy Kelton and they will
[01:20:18.360 --> 01:20:20.360]  beat you into unconsciousness.
[01:20:20.360 --> 01:20:29.000]  Okay, well, I'll start dropping your name then, but Denton is considered to be a smaller
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  version of Austin in a way.
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.600]  I think that's why it applies, but up here-
[01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:34.600]  Yes, hold on.
[01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:35.600]  Let me clarify.
[01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:43.080]  I have people call me all over the country to do seminars and everywhere I go, everybody
[01:20:43.080 --> 01:20:47.760]  says, well, my county is the most corrupt county in the nation.
[01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:53.080]  This is the same everywhere.
[01:20:53.080 --> 01:20:59.480]  While we singled out Austin only because Austin is the seat of government or is in the seat
[01:20:59.480 --> 01:21:03.760]  of government, not because it's any different or all the same.
[01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:09.040]  Oh yeah, yeah, I get that impression, sure.
[01:21:09.040 --> 01:21:16.400]  Well, okay, well, my neighborhood here is just on the south side of the University of
[01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:25.080]  North Texas campus and the city of Denton wants to just completely bulldoze one entire
[01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:34.120]  block of our residential neighborhood to put in one of these big electrical substations.
[01:21:34.120 --> 01:21:39.680]  That's just two doors down from my house, so my house is out of harm's way as far as
[01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:43.440]  that goes, but it's still not good.
[01:21:43.440 --> 01:21:50.520]  Also, that whole block, they just want to take it out and put in one of these big things.
[01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:58.960]  We don't like that too much, and so we have a combination of college students and pretty
[01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:05.800]  much rentals, although there's some homeowners right here too.
[01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:12.280]  Because that involves quite a few people, I'm thinking of how to set this up where we
[01:22:12.280 --> 01:22:16.880]  can run the rule of law routine there.
[01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:22.160]  You have a broad range of ways that they could kind of maneuver this.
[01:22:22.160 --> 01:22:30.160]  It's still in the planning phases, and so I want to ask to what extent should we sort
[01:22:30.160 --> 01:22:31.160]  of...
[01:22:31.160 --> 01:22:41.360]  Okay, let me start by saying read the city charter, read the city ordinances, know the
[01:22:41.360 --> 01:22:44.400]  law better than they do.
[01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:51.760]  I know if you're not familiar with law, you think that studying law is such an incredibly
[01:22:51.760 --> 01:23:00.400]  complex thing to do, but from this perspective, I think of it like working on a car.
[01:23:00.400 --> 01:23:06.280]  If you go to a car and you open the hood and you look down in there, there's just a maze
[01:23:06.280 --> 01:23:07.560]  of garbage in there.
[01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:16.120]  I am a good mechanic, and I'm good enough that I know never, ever go raise that hood
[01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:18.640]  and look down in there.
[01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:20.200]  That's just going to give you a headache.
[01:23:20.200 --> 01:23:28.880]  Leave that hood closed and ask a few questions that's going to focus you to the area where
[01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:34.680]  the problem is, and when you open the hood, you only look at that place.
[01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:37.160]  You'll pay attention to all that other garbage out there.
[01:23:37.160 --> 01:23:39.360]  And law is similar.
[01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:46.600]  Law is a huge study, law in general, but you don't care about law in general.
[01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:48.640]  You've got something really focused.
[01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:52.800]  You go get the city ordinances and you could probably go through the city ordinances in
[01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:56.640]  about an hour, hour and a half.
[01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:05.840]  Just go get them, go through them, and resist the urge to not read something that you don't
[01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:15.560]  think is important because you will be amazed at what pops out at you the second time you
[01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:16.560]  read it.
[01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:23.000]  So just cruise through them and then come back and read through them again.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.240]  First time you read through them, you will set mental markers.
[01:24:27.240 --> 01:24:32.320]  The second time you go through them, you'll start making attachments to these mental markers
[01:24:32.320 --> 01:24:34.800]  all over the place.
[01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:42.320]  And I guarantee you, those guys in the commissioner's court and the city council, they've never
[01:24:42.320 --> 01:24:44.440]  done that.
[01:24:44.440 --> 01:24:51.120]  The lawyer that they use to give them legal advice, he's never done that.
[01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:56.440]  And I can tell you, when you go in there and start stuffing their code down their throats,
[01:24:56.440 --> 01:24:59.720]  they get real excited real fast.
[01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:05.040]  If you're going to beat them, you're going to have to do that first, and in this case
[01:25:05.040 --> 01:25:08.480]  you're going to have an uphill climb.
[01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:14.880]  Few years ago, we had a big uproar about the Supreme Court.
[01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.640]  Render the ruling over North Richland Hill Malls.
[01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:22.240]  Anybody who's in the Dallas-Fort Worth area knows where that's at.
[01:25:22.240 --> 01:25:26.760]  We have Loop 820 that loops around Fort Worth.
[01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:32.360]  Northeast corner of Loop 820 is Northeast Mall.
[01:25:32.360 --> 01:25:41.160]  Well, it was a good-sized mall, and it went halfway down from 183 down to Pipeline, went
[01:25:41.160 --> 01:25:42.160]  halfway.
[01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:48.480]  Well, the mall decided they wanted to extend the mall all the way to Pipeline.
[01:25:48.480 --> 01:25:54.960]  And there's a huge community in there, and they rose up in arms against it to stop them.
[01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:58.320]  It went all the way to the Supreme Court.
[01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:07.080]  And when it came down, the Supreme Court said that the city can condemn all of these properties
[01:26:07.080 --> 01:26:13.840]  because by condemning these properties and making the property available for commercial
[01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:19.040]  development, they would make more money.
[01:26:19.040 --> 01:26:23.680]  And we had a lot of people in legal reform jumping up and down and waving their arms
[01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.360]  and railing in righteous indignation.
[01:26:26.360 --> 01:26:39.280]  So I read the order, and what the Supreme Court said was, we agree that this is reprehensible.
[01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:40.900]  We don't like it.
[01:26:40.900 --> 01:26:43.960]  We prefer this didn't happen.
[01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:51.800]  But this involves state law, not federal law, and we have no power to intervene.
[01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:59.200]  And then I was jumping up and down and clapping my hands and saying, good ruling.
[01:26:59.200 --> 01:27:05.760]  Point here is, Texas law will allow the city of Denton to take your property away from
[01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:16.600]  you if the city of Denton has a purpose that, in their judgment, is more valuable to the
[01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:19.920]  city than your use of the property.
[01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:24.560]  That's a problem.
[01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:32.280]  And what the Supreme Court said was your remedy is not with the federal courts, but with the
[01:27:32.280 --> 01:27:33.800]  state law.
[01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:38.880]  You must change the state law as we have no power to interfere.
[01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:42.040]  State law is not in your favor at the moment.
[01:27:42.040 --> 01:27:50.120]  Yeah, and what you just said is that that particular case law that that is is certainly
[01:27:50.120 --> 01:27:53.120]  not in our favor.
[01:27:53.120 --> 01:28:01.240]  Well, however, there are other problems you can bring up.
[01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:07.600]  My experience with counties and especially municipalities is they never, ever follow
[01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:09.880]  law.
[01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:18.680]  So while in the short run, you may not actually directly be able to stop them.
[01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:30.480]  What you very likely can do is trip them up by getting them the opportunity to violate
[01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:36.360]  their own ordinances and the laws applying to how they're to do this, because they never
[01:28:36.360 --> 01:28:37.360]  follow law.
[01:28:37.360 --> 01:28:41.440]  They can do what they want to, and then go find the laws that fit what they're doing.
[01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:46.880]  What they're not used to is somebody who reads their own laws and cramps them down their
[01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:47.880]  throats.
[01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:55.680]  Example, I help people with foreclosure, and I tell them, in the end, you're probably going
[01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:56.680]  to lose.
[01:28:56.680 --> 01:29:03.200]  However, because the bankers never do it right, you can stick their behinds in court and keep
[01:29:03.200 --> 01:29:09.000]  them in there until you both get old and cost them a fortune.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:17.360]  There's minor details, the devil's in the details, but you can't chase the devil until
[01:29:17.360 --> 01:29:20.440]  you've immersed yourself in the details.
[01:29:20.440 --> 01:29:21.440]  Right.
[01:29:21.440 --> 01:29:22.440]  Well, okay.
[01:29:22.440 --> 01:29:32.720]  Now, one thing I'd like to kind of have some direction on also before I hang up is this
[01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:36.880]  is pretty complicated for quite a few people involved, so is there...
[01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:37.880]  Okay.
[01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:38.880]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:39.880]  Hang on.
[01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:40.880]  We're about to go to break.
[01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:42.320]  We will pick this up on the other side.
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[01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:16.320]  Yeah, who you want to chip me, who you take me for, free to leave?
[01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:19.320]  Who you want to chip me?
[01:33:19.320 --> 01:33:22.320]  I'm not free to leave.
[01:33:22.320 --> 01:33:23.320]  You can't chip me.
[01:33:23.320 --> 01:33:24.320]  I'm a fact.
[01:33:24.320 --> 01:33:28.260]  You can't do it, even a chip in your body.
[01:33:28.260 --> 01:33:36.600]  And I knew when you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:46.600]  When you say chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, chip in your grandpa and the granny,
[01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:51.600]  chip in your meat, chip in your baby.
[01:33:51.600 --> 01:34:14.160]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of our radio, and we're talking to Boris
[01:34:14.160 --> 01:34:15.160]  in Denton.
[01:34:15.160 --> 01:34:16.160]  Yes.
[01:34:16.160 --> 01:34:21.160]  Okay, I'm not, I'm about 30 miles from Denton.
[01:34:21.160 --> 01:34:27.400]  Yeah, I know that you live out there in White's County, I've heard you talk about that out
[01:34:27.400 --> 01:34:28.400]  there.
[01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:34.600]  And then Jim Mars, I don't know if he's still out there, but anyway, okay, now if I, one
[01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:38.680]  more thing before- Jim Mars went to Paradise.
[01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.280]  Oh, really?
[01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:44.640]  Paradise, Texas, about five miles west of Boyd.
[01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:49.400]  Oh, right, yeah, yeah.
[01:34:49.400 --> 01:34:56.840]  Let's see what, okay, if I could like find a mentor who understands the routine, you
[01:34:56.840 --> 01:35:02.160]  know, because I know that there's got to be some students or support groups that are further
[01:35:02.160 --> 01:35:08.200]  along on this whole understanding, so how, you know, what, where could I look for someone
[01:35:08.200 --> 01:35:13.600]  that- If you have some students and a bunch of people who want to do, want to work on
[01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:18.440]  this up there, if you'll put a group together, I'll come up there and do a presentation
[01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:19.440]  to them.
[01:35:19.440 --> 01:35:20.440]  Oh, okay.
[01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:21.440]  What does that take?
[01:35:21.440 --> 01:35:30.520]  Oh, we can get a room at a restaurant or something, it doesn't take much, just set up a time,
[01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:37.160]  get a bunch of people there, and I'll talk to them about politics, and not the kind of
[01:35:37.160 --> 01:35:47.320]  politics of the election box, but local politics and how to create it, how to become a thorn
[01:35:47.320 --> 01:35:53.120]  in their sides, how to affect wheel and lasting change.
[01:35:53.120 --> 01:35:56.880]  Sure, okay, I can do that.
[01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.600]  How many people have a good number?
[01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:04.240]  I don't know, as many as you can get, I'm not that far away, so it's not a big deal.
[01:36:04.240 --> 01:36:09.920]  Needs to be on a night when I don't do the show, but it's what we do here, our whole
[01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:15.320]  purpose here is to get other people doing what we're doing.
[01:36:15.320 --> 01:36:18.680]  If you can put together a group, and I come to that group, and I do a presentation, and
[01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:26.540]  I get one guy in the group, or one girl in the group that gets it, that'll be well worth
[01:36:26.540 --> 01:36:27.540]  my time.
[01:36:27.540 --> 01:36:34.960]  Okay, well I think I can filter out some people who can listen, do I need to pay you or anything?
[01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:42.480]  No, absolutely not, I do other stuff to make my living with, this is my passion.
[01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:49.680]  Okay, well, okay, then I'll take you up on that, and let's see, how do I get back in
[01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:50.680]  touch with you?
[01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:55.720]  Just call in, or maybe send you an email from the rule of law?
[01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:57.720]  You have randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:36:57.720 --> 01:37:07.960]  Okay, okay, then when I gather up some people, then I'll put in a title that I called in,
[01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:08.960]  and my name is Boris.
[01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:17.960]  Okay, and if anybody else out there who has an issue that you're trying to address with
[01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:26.040]  a governmental agency, and if you put together a group of people who want to take on the
[01:37:26.040 --> 01:37:30.360]  system, and you're in Denton, and Denton's a college town, and it's a great place to
[01:37:30.360 --> 01:37:36.440]  do it, if we can get kids in college who still have a lot of passion, and they haven't been
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:45.200]  burned out yet, and we can give them some actual tools that will really work, we can
[01:37:45.200 --> 01:37:48.480]  create what we need to change the system.
[01:37:48.480 --> 01:37:54.720]  If we could get one or two people in every county who do what we're suggesting we do,
[01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.100]  that would change everything.
[01:37:57.100 --> 01:38:03.200]  We don't need everybody, and I just went to the district court and landed right in the
[01:38:03.200 --> 01:38:11.160]  middle of my district judge, and he was not happy, and then he threatened me with arrest.
[01:38:11.160 --> 01:38:14.680]  Oh, you having fun, Bubba?
[01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:18.720]  I went straight to the district attorney, asked the district attorney to have him arrested.
[01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:21.160]  Say, you want to play hardball?
[01:38:21.160 --> 01:38:28.640]  I'll introduce you to the deep end of the pool, and we can show people how to introduce
[01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:36.600]  public officials to the deep end of the pool, and it doesn't take much of that kind of thing.
[01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:42.120]  Like I spoke to earlier about the complaints I filed against the Texas Court of Criminal
[01:38:42.120 --> 01:38:47.080]  Appeals, it actually finally got them before grand jury.
[01:38:47.080 --> 01:38:50.280]  It dramatically changed how they did business.
[01:38:50.280 --> 01:38:56.000]  I presented the district attorney in Johnson County to the grand jury, and it dramatically
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:59.440]  changed the way he did business.
[01:38:59.440 --> 01:39:04.000]  If you go to Johnson County and you file a complaint against a public official, they
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.720]  don't screw around with it.
[01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:15.000]  They get right after it, because the district attorney had to look at the prospect of the
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:20.560]  grand jury ending his career.
[01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:28.280]  If we can get a group of college students that understand this, they will go out and
[01:39:28.280 --> 01:39:31.400]  give this to other college students.
[01:39:31.400 --> 01:39:37.080]  This will grow behind us, and when we're all sitting on the porch watching the grass grow
[01:39:37.080 --> 01:39:47.360]  and we see this movement going, we can say, we had a part in that.
[01:39:47.360 --> 01:39:56.520]  So yeah, anybody, if you have a group that wants to make change, then you need somebody
[01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:04.080]  to motivate your group and give them some tools that actually work.
[01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:05.080]  Contact me.
[01:40:05.080 --> 01:40:09.000]  I will make arrangements to do a presentment to them.
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:15.080]  If it's a long way away, I'd like you to pay my travel costs, but for the most part,
[01:40:15.080 --> 01:40:16.080]  this is a dead aisle.
[01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:27.160]  I'm an old combat veteran, Vietnam vet, and my hands have blood on them, and that's a
[01:40:27.160 --> 01:40:28.160]  debt I have to pay.
[01:40:28.160 --> 01:40:32.920]  This is my debt, so I'm not doing anybody any favors.
[01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:35.920]  I'm paying a debt that I owe.
[01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:39.000]  Well, I appreciate what you do.
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.000]  I haven't heard your story there.
[01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:42.000]  I've seen you.
[01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:49.520]  In fact, I first heard of you, I think, on Alex Jones' show about five years ago, so
[01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:55.720]  I know a little bit about what y'all do, and I appreciate that very much.
[01:40:55.720 --> 01:40:58.400]  There's not enough support for what y'all do.
[01:40:58.400 --> 01:41:07.280]  I came back from Vietnam really upset, and they told me that I had sworn on my honor
[01:41:07.280 --> 01:41:12.240]  to an oath to protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that I
[01:41:12.240 --> 01:41:13.520]  was not released from that oath.
[01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:15.400]  It was a lifetime oath.
[01:41:15.400 --> 01:41:19.200]  I took that serious.
[01:41:19.200 --> 01:41:21.400]  They started a fight with me.
[01:41:21.400 --> 01:41:22.560]  They're done.
[01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:24.800]  I'm just getting warmed up on them.
[01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:25.800]  Okay.
[01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:31.800]  Well, there's some really smart people around here, so I'll do that.
[01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:32.800]  I'll put together a group.
[01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:39.920]  I know a lot of people here, and the college students, a lot of them are really smart.
[01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:40.920]  That is great.
[01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:47.440]  Even if they're not in agreement, that's okay.
[01:41:47.440 --> 01:41:52.600]  If I can get them to challenge me, that's wonderful.
[01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:58.000]  Don't single someone out because it's not really totally in agreement.
[01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  Oh, sure.
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.000]  Yeah.
[01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:06.560]  I learn the most from those people.
[01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:08.600]  I don't learn much from people who agree with me.
[01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:10.600]  I learn a lot from people who don't.
[01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:11.600]  Yeah.
[01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:12.600]  That's right.
[01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:21.120]  Then the people who don't agree make you dig deeper for better answers.
[01:42:21.120 --> 01:42:22.120]  That's for sure.
[01:42:22.120 --> 01:42:23.120]  Exactly.
[01:42:23.120 --> 01:42:26.720]  I like to play stomp the chumps.
[01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:33.080]  People tend to think, I do this show, and I get people that think that, oh, you're some
[01:42:33.080 --> 01:42:40.400]  kind of guru, and you have this special ability, horse manure.
[01:42:40.400 --> 01:42:42.440]  I don't have a special ability.
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:44.440]  I just got PO'd.
[01:42:44.440 --> 01:42:47.600]  I don't want anybody to think that I'm a guru.
[01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.740]  I am not.
[01:42:50.740 --> 01:42:52.120]  Anybody can do what I'm doing.
[01:42:52.120 --> 01:42:55.640]  I don't have some special skill.
[01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:58.320]  I'm just more PO'd than somebody else.
[01:42:58.320 --> 01:43:06.120]  If you can't do this, you're just not angry enough.
[01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:07.120]  College students are great.
[01:43:07.120 --> 01:43:09.600]  Give me somebody that's upset and wants to make change.
[01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:14.880]  I've spent the last 30 years figuring out how to make change.
[01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:21.800]  If I can give this to somebody else and they can go out and make change, then my life has
[01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:23.800]  had purpose.
[01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:32.880]  Okay, keep us up to date on how this shakes out.
[01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:37.320]  You may want to look at new legislation to change what they can do and what they can't
[01:43:37.320 --> 01:43:41.480]  do to give you a better chance at fixing this.
[01:43:41.480 --> 01:43:48.280]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, I call it number 512-646-1984.
[01:43:48.280 --> 01:43:49.280]  Give us a call.
[01:43:49.280 --> 01:43:50.760]  Jay, we see you there.
[01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:52.240]  We'll pick you up on the other side.
[01:43:52.240 --> 01:43:54.920]  If you have a question or comment, give us a call.
[01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:56.920]  It'd be nice to play chump to stumps.
[01:43:56.920 --> 01:44:00.400]  Stump to chumps, we'll be right back.
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[01:45:59.960 --> 01:46:20.960]  Hello, oh man, you're jailed, you're busted, oh man, I'm broke, yeah.
[01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:47.960]  There's always a room at the top of the hill, I hear through the grapevine, and it's lonely
[01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:52.960]  too, they're wishing it was more than our position to fill.
[01:46:52.960 --> 01:46:55.960]  They know that it ain't over till it's done.
[01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:56.960]  Okay.
[01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:57.960]  We are back.
[01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:03.800]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to go to Jay in Texas.
[01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:04.800]  Hello, Jay.
[01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:05.800]  Hello, Randy.
[01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:06.800]  How are you?
[01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:07.800]  I am good.
[01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:10.800]  I don't care what everybody says.
[01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:17.520]  Well, I heard that about you, but I'm just going to go with the rest of them.
[01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:18.520]  That's nice of you.
[01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:21.080]  Well, yeah, of course.
[01:47:21.080 --> 01:47:29.000]  What I called in, I want to address what Deborah came on and said about Austin and what they're
[01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.240]  doing with the code enforcement and everything.
[01:47:32.240 --> 01:47:40.400]  Well, down here in my little county last month, I had a little row with the municipal court,
[01:47:40.400 --> 01:47:48.400]  and of course, the code enforcement filed a claim on me, and they called me in, I have
[01:47:48.400 --> 01:47:57.240]  a little meeting, and we had that meeting, and I asked a few questions, and I was able
[01:47:57.240 --> 01:48:03.920]  to establish that this was an administrative hearing, and that I was charged with violations,
[01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:12.000]  and I asked them to see my employment records, because I wasn't sure that I exactly worked.
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:13.000]  That's good.
[01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:15.000]  I'm sorry, though.
[01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  I'm going to discuss the fine if they would just settle up with me on my employment for
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  the last 40 years, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, all holidays, I've received no insurance
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:37.440]  benefits, I've received no payments, no promotions, nothing, and I'd like that all in cash before
[01:48:37.440 --> 01:48:40.520]  we discuss $217.
[01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:45.040]  Okay, hold on, Jay.
[01:48:45.040 --> 01:48:46.040]  You're breaking up there.
[01:48:46.040 --> 01:48:59.840]  And I also told them that connection tonight, but I explained to them that a complaint,
[01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:07.480]  a criminal-style complaint, had been filed against me, and I pointed out that this particular
[01:49:07.480 --> 01:49:17.160]  code enforcement employee, contractor, slash agent failed to exhaust his administrative
[01:49:17.160 --> 01:49:26.180]  remedies, and it's mandated by state and federal law, so consequently, he decided to opt for
[01:49:26.180 --> 01:49:31.840]  a third-party enforcement, which made the entire procedure quasi-criminal.
[01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:39.760]  So since he had the opportunity to take it out of administration and into a quasi-criminal
[01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:46.880]  setting, that I was going to go ahead and opt to make it full-blown criminal, so I answered
[01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:50.880]  his complaint in two parts.
[01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:58.680]  One was the answer, which I destroyed his ability to even make a claim, or the city,
[01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:02.000]  or their powers to enforce any kind of claim.
[01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:09.360]  And then I went ahead, and the last part, I also mentioned the fact that the Supreme
[01:50:09.360 --> 01:50:21.920]  Court ruled in a couple of cases that municipalities can't exert any acts of ownership over property
[01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:31.720]  that is not owned by them, and that a city's illegal enforcement of its codes on a man's
[01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:39.800]  private property and restricting the man's business was a Fifth Amendment taking, and
[01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:44.280]  it was worth, in this particular case, it was worth $8 million.
[01:50:44.280 --> 01:50:53.860]  They had a sale, a for sale of the man's property, and the court awarded them another $1.45 million,
[01:50:53.860 --> 01:51:02.280]  so I've asked the city, since they took pictures of the property, a property, and well, the
[01:51:02.280 --> 01:51:06.720]  violation was for outside storage.
[01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:14.200]  I had a house sitter in for a while on another case out of Dallas that we took care of successfully.
[01:51:14.200 --> 01:51:18.080]  2013 was a banner year for me.
[01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:23.200]  I did all kinds of neat stuff, and since then I've retired, but this is my own personal
[01:51:23.200 --> 01:51:30.760]  case, so I decided to take the city apart, and I have, and then I went ahead after this
[01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:37.480]  answer, I went ahead and did the counterclaim, and I charged them with a Fifth Amendment
[01:51:37.480 --> 01:51:42.880]  taking, I charged them with a Fourth Amendment violation because of the security clause in
[01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:50.120]  the Fourth Amendment, and then I charged them with a 13th Amendment involuntary servitude
[01:51:50.120 --> 01:51:57.920]  because they insisted that I do work that I wasn't required to do, and they had no manner
[01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:04.640]  to force me to labor for them, but they insisted, so that's involuntary servitude, and then
[01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:15.200]  I went ahead in the counterclaim and pointed out five USC, Section 706, Section 2, A, B,
[01:52:15.200 --> 01:52:25.080]  and D of the government code for government employees and government, and these particular
[01:52:25.080 --> 01:52:33.120]  codes or sections make their actions contrary to the law, and then we went to the Texas
[01:52:33.120 --> 01:52:43.080]  Penal Code, and I started off with parties to the offense, Section 701, and then I went
[01:52:43.080 --> 01:52:52.080]  to 702, criminal responsibility for conduct of another, and then 703, defenses excluded,
[01:52:52.080 --> 01:53:01.040]  and then I went to Section 722, criminal responsibility of a corporation or association, and then
[01:53:01.040 --> 01:53:09.520]  I dropped down to Section 723, criminal responsibility of person for conduct in behalf of a corporation
[01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:19.460]  or association, these are the charges I levied against them for my unlawful storage of somebody
[01:53:19.460 --> 01:53:24.160]  else's couch on the property, and I said the property.
[01:53:24.160 --> 01:53:30.000]  Okay, wait, I have to give you a fair warning here.
[01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  Yes.
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:38.980]  You realize they're not going to send you a Christmas card.
[01:53:38.980 --> 01:53:42.080]  You mean this year.
[01:53:42.080 --> 01:53:44.680]  You mean this year, right?
[01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:45.680]  This year at least.
[01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:52.600]  Well, by January, I mean by December, they'll have forgotten, they'll do something.
[01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:53.600]  Probably.
[01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:56.200]  You are a man after my own heart.
[01:53:56.200 --> 01:53:58.320]  Yeah, I know.
[01:53:58.320 --> 01:54:05.920]  Anyway, continuing with the fun and games, I then went to Section 3704 of the Texas Penal
[01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:16.120]  Code, charging materiality, then I went to 3707, irregularities, no defense, and then
[01:54:16.120 --> 01:54:28.800]  I went to Chapter 39, abuse of office, and then 3901, the definitions, and Section 3902,
[01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:41.920]  defense of official capacity, Section 3903, official oppression, and then Chapter 71,
[01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:42.920]  7101 definitions.
[01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:43.920]  Street gang.
[01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:55.960]  7101 is organized crime, yes, and 7102 organized criminal activity, and then 7103, defenses
[01:54:55.960 --> 01:55:01.040]  excluded, and there was the CF's code enforcement.
[01:55:01.040 --> 01:55:09.720]  There was a city attorney, and there was the municipal, just I'll be polite, the municipal
[01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:10.720]  judge.
[01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:16.560]  Okay, so this is my answer and my counterclaim to their little deal.
[01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:23.240]  Well, I went in there in February the 17th to file it, and they told me, oh, but this
[01:55:23.240 --> 01:55:29.920]  is dismissed, and I said, oh, no, it's not, oh, yeah, they dismissed it 10 minutes ago.
[01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:33.280]  I said, no, it's not, it's improper notice.
[01:55:33.280 --> 01:55:41.380]  You can't dismiss it just because you want to, and besides, the rules say I have to answer
[01:55:41.380 --> 01:55:47.080]  a complaint, so here's my answer, and here's my counterclaim, and that's the way it's
[01:55:47.080 --> 01:55:52.780]  going to be, and I need it file stamped, so they file stamped it, and then they handed
[01:55:52.780 --> 01:56:04.880]  me the dismissal, which says fixed, and it's over, but I did manage to send them a counterclaim,
[01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:13.480]  and the counterclaim is a bill for $8 million, and that's to be adjusted for inflation using
[01:56:13.480 --> 01:56:21.340]  the United States Department of Labor's Inflation Calculator.
[01:56:21.340 --> 01:56:27.560]  We did that on the civil rights case last year in San Antonio.
[01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:28.560]  We won.
[01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:36.440]  It was a 40-year drug sentence, and the Texas Department of Criminal Justice sent this man
[01:56:36.440 --> 01:56:42.720]  an early release, said, don't come, don't pay us any money, we don't know you, don't
[01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:50.680]  forget it, and that was 16 years early, so his 40-year prison sentence only lasted 24
[01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:55.800]  years, and it wouldn't have been that long, but I'm not really that smart.
[01:56:55.800 --> 01:57:00.600]  It took me a long time to figure out how to do it and win, but he won, and-
[01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:04.000]  Okay, I have a question.
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:05.000]  Who are you?
[01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.880]  I'm going to charge you to answer.
[01:57:07.880 --> 01:57:15.480]  You ever drink coffee with somebody over there at that, what was the name of that restaurant,
[01:57:15.480 --> 01:57:20.480]  right there beside I-35?
[01:57:20.480 --> 01:57:23.080]  The House of Pancakes?
[01:57:23.080 --> 01:57:24.080]  Yeah.
[01:57:24.080 --> 01:57:27.280]  Are you a friend?
[01:57:27.280 --> 01:57:29.280]  A good friend.
[01:57:29.280 --> 01:57:30.720]  Oh, okay.
[01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:32.760]  Now I know who this person is.
[01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:35.200]  Yeah, I'll charge you, Mike.
[01:57:35.200 --> 01:57:36.200]  Okay.
[01:57:36.200 --> 01:57:37.200]  Where have you been?
[01:57:37.200 --> 01:57:38.200]  I've been working.
[01:57:38.200 --> 01:57:39.200]  I've been busy.
[01:57:39.200 --> 01:57:44.200]  I beat Dallas to a pulp.
[01:57:44.200 --> 01:57:51.760]  The city manager quit, the cops are worried about their jobs, one of the county commissioners,
[01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:59.480]  we took the city council, the mayor, and out of all that, the city manager quit, just left.
[01:57:59.480 --> 01:58:08.280]  Okay, hold on, we are out of time, but you have to call back in.
[01:58:08.280 --> 01:58:14.560]  I tried to contact you several times, and you kind of dropped off the map for me.
[01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:21.240]  Will you send me an email so I know how to reach you?
[01:58:21.240 --> 01:58:23.560]  I'll do something, yes.
[01:58:23.560 --> 01:58:27.680]  I won't be too annoying.
[01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:29.440]  I know you already.
[01:58:29.440 --> 01:58:32.600]  Oh, he knows I'm annoying, okay.
[01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:39.240]  We have to go to Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Ruval Radio, and our good friend is, I hope
[01:58:39.240 --> 01:58:40.240]  we get reconnected.
[01:58:40.240 --> 01:58:45.720]  We'll be back tomorrow night with our four-hour info marathon.
[01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:50.640]  Thank you all for listening, and good night.
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