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[03:46.440 --> 04:00.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we will be right back.
[04:00.120 --> 04:02.120]  We are back. I'm front.
[04:02.120 --> 04:06.080]  Through you for a curve, isn't it?
[04:06.080 --> 04:07.080]  Dead air.
[04:07.080 --> 04:13.320]  Let's go to Walt. We were having way too much fun on the break.
[04:13.320 --> 04:19.320]  We're going to Walt in New York. Walt, where were we? Oh, you were...
[04:19.320 --> 04:21.320]  Walt was in New York.
[04:21.320 --> 04:26.320]  Yeah, New York. And that was really important about the Walmart parking lot.
[04:26.320 --> 04:37.000]  I'm trying to get people to understand that we're the masters and we need to stop defending
[04:37.000 --> 04:45.960]  ourselves first. We need to start acting like we're the CEO of the corporation.
[04:45.960 --> 04:56.240]  How dare you address me in an uncivil manner? If you're going to address me in an uncivil
[04:56.240 --> 05:03.480]  manner, the first thing we want to know is you're standing in capacity to address me
[05:03.480 --> 05:13.520]  this way. We tend to get into the merits of an issue before we get into the standing
[05:13.520 --> 05:17.560]  of an issue. Does that make sense, Walt?
[05:17.560 --> 05:22.160]  I see what you're saying. Can I just make one more quick comment about that receipt,
[05:22.160 --> 05:23.160]  though?
[05:23.160 --> 05:24.160]  Yeah, you do.
[05:24.160 --> 05:29.080]  I'm trying to make. I think I know what you're saying, but I want to just ask you this. Once
[05:29.080 --> 05:34.760]  that receipt is your property, you pay for it. Goes in your pocket, that's private property,
[05:34.760 --> 05:37.760]  and that's Fourth Amendment. They need a warrant.
[05:37.760 --> 05:38.760]  Exactly.
[05:38.760 --> 05:41.760]  Once that receipt is received, they've got to have a warrant to see that's your private
[05:41.760 --> 05:42.760]  property.
[05:42.760 --> 05:55.560]  A quick story, stopped by the constabulary, asked me for proof of insurance and something
[05:55.560 --> 06:03.120]  else. I told him that, don't you have a computer on that system of yours? You can go check
[06:03.120 --> 06:06.880]  for my insurance yourself. We don't do that.
[06:06.880 --> 06:15.440]  Well, do that. Well, I'm not going to do that. Okay, write me a ticket. Knock yourself out.
[06:15.440 --> 06:20.920]  I'm not giving you proof of insurance. When you write me a ticket, Bubba, I didn't tell
[06:20.920 --> 06:25.920]  you this. When you write me the ticket, then I'll go down there and file a complaint against
[06:25.920 --> 06:35.920]  him and demand the jury trial. I had one JP. The JP come out and ask me, Mr. Kelkin,
[06:35.920 --> 06:44.120]  do you have insurance? Of course I do. Well, if you'll just show us your proof of insurance
[06:44.120 --> 06:46.560]  and pay $10, we'll disrupt this. I'm not showing you.
[06:46.560 --> 06:53.720]  You want my money and you're calling me a liar. I'm not showing you a squat. I'll show it
[06:53.720 --> 07:02.440]  to a jury once the jury's in panel. The JP turned to the clerk, just dismiss this thing.
[07:02.440 --> 07:09.800]  So you want to play hardball, Bubba? You want to press me? You claim you have an authority?
[07:09.800 --> 07:14.640]  I'm going to have a rule. Don't never interfere with somebody when they're screwing out.
[07:14.640 --> 07:18.800]  And he's already thrown out the first pitch. Let's play ball.
[07:18.800 --> 07:30.320]  And these people, they're not even public officials. They're in a, they're in deep water.
[07:30.320 --> 07:38.440]  And you know, I try to give people the impression I'm setting them up. And it works really well.
[07:38.440 --> 07:46.360]  And you're not intimidated by them and they can't trigger you into responding to them
[07:46.360 --> 07:53.920]  the way they expect you to respond. They expect you to defend yourself.
[07:53.920 --> 08:02.040]  So my first response is not defend myself. My first response is to demand that they show
[08:02.040 --> 08:11.120]  authority. If not, beat it. There's nothing more fun than telling a policeman, you're
[08:11.120 --> 08:22.680]  dismissed, you can go now. They get real excited. But these guys, they're working for this company,
[08:22.680 --> 08:29.840]  they would have to have some serious probable cause before they interfere with you. And
[08:29.840 --> 08:35.200]  you know, these are probably just people who work for Walmart. Walmart's been sued so
[08:35.200 --> 08:42.720]  many times. They're not going to be happy. And the last thing they're going to want
[08:42.720 --> 08:51.240]  is their employees going out there and playing hardball with their customers in a way that
[08:51.240 --> 09:02.000]  will get them sued major big time. So put them on the dime. Show me your cause for interfering
[09:02.000 --> 09:12.520]  with my, for arresting my freedom of movement. That's what arrest is. So I'm going to leave
[09:12.520 --> 09:17.960]  if you interfere with me, I'll dial 911 and you can explain your police, your position
[09:17.960 --> 09:26.520]  to the police. Have you ever dialed 911 on these guys? I know I did not. Walt, you have
[09:26.520 --> 09:36.720]  not lived until you dialed 911 on, especially on a cop. Oh my goodness, you will not believe
[09:36.720 --> 09:42.240]  the tippy toes, cheek and dance they'll start doing. He started shifting from one foot to
[09:42.240 --> 09:48.320]  the other. They get real excited because when you're talking to the 911 operator, it's on
[09:48.320 --> 09:58.600]  the record. Exactly. You call 911 to make a record of what's going on. Now they're stuck
[09:58.600 --> 10:04.840]  with it. I once called 911 and told him to send somebody out here. I got this police
[10:04.840 --> 10:10.240]  officer who is terrified. I'm afraid he's going to wet his drawers, but I'm concerned
[10:10.240 --> 10:15.000]  he might shoot me first. So get somebody out here to get him under control. And the cop
[10:15.000 --> 10:21.880]  is looking at me like, I don't believe you just sent that to my dispatcher. It's not
[10:21.880 --> 10:29.800]  your dispatcher for one. But you're the, you're the master. You're the sovereign. You're
[10:29.800 --> 10:37.360]  the freeman. I'd like to reiterate what, what is something that Randy alluded to before
[10:37.360 --> 10:46.880]  you go to the merits, that is to establish your rights. You would want to find out what
[10:46.880 --> 10:54.120]  authority do you have to ask me that question? You're accusing me of being a thief now. What
[10:54.120 --> 11:02.920]  authority do you have to see anything, to ask anything? And oh, by the way, there goes
[11:02.920 --> 11:07.880]  somebody. Why didn't you ask him? There goes another guy. Why didn't you ask him? Oh,
[11:07.880 --> 11:16.520]  another one just passed. Why did you single me out? You know, you know, what did I send
[11:16.520 --> 11:23.880]  up for you to profile me as a thief? And what may happen is they will say, well, someone
[11:23.880 --> 11:31.560]  inside called out and said that there's also one shoplifting and they matched your description.
[11:31.560 --> 11:36.840]  And we just wanted to make sure that we were talking to the right guy. And Walt, in that
[11:36.840 --> 11:43.800]  case, what would you do? I would say get that person over here. I want to speak to him.
[11:43.800 --> 11:47.840]  And if they get him and they say, you know, they're likely to say, you know, no, this
[11:47.840 --> 11:54.160]  is not the right guy. But it could be that they have good probable cause. So the first
[11:54.160 --> 11:59.440]  thing you ask for is that probable cause. Why, why are you stopping me? And if they
[11:59.440 --> 12:06.680]  give you a good reason, you know, if somebody makes a reasonable request of me, I'm going
[12:06.680 --> 12:12.400]  to be reasonable. But first, I'm going to want to know what's reasonable. So first thing
[12:12.400 --> 12:18.520]  I'm going to ask them is show me the reasonability. Show me why you asked me this question. And
[12:18.520 --> 12:25.040]  then if they give you a good reason and by all means, I would show. And I wouldn't have
[12:25.040 --> 12:33.720]  any questions if they don't come up with one. Now we got a problem. And the way to handle
[12:33.720 --> 12:40.560]  that is if you don't talk to anybody here, you call, was it the Benton Arizona, Benton
[12:40.560 --> 12:47.880]  Benton, Arkansas? You call down there and the strategy is you call down and ask, who
[12:47.880 --> 12:55.240]  is the current president of Walmart? And they'll say, well, is there a problem? Yeah, there
[12:55.240 --> 12:59.680]  is a problem. I don't know who the president is. But will you tell me who the president
[12:59.680 --> 13:07.280]  is? And then I have give people a line of BS saying that I told one that my son was
[13:07.280 --> 13:15.120]  doing a paper on the most important company presidents in the country. And he wanted to
[13:15.120 --> 13:20.400]  do one on your company. This was Sintel. Oh, yeah. So they told me the president was.
[13:20.400 --> 13:27.440]  Well, thank you very much. I hung up, called back, asked for the president by name. Friend
[13:27.440 --> 13:32.680]  of mine moved in, wanted a private line at the time we were out in the country and they
[13:32.680 --> 13:37.920]  had all the party lines or he was. They told him have to put in 200 feet of underground
[13:37.920 --> 13:42.480]  cable before we hook up your lines. They put in 200 feet of underground cable so we could
[13:42.480 --> 13:48.160]  get a private line. They hook him up. He's on a six-party line. He is unhappy. Well,
[13:48.160 --> 13:55.240]  I happen to know that they used to tell us Sintel's headquarters was in Colleen, but
[13:55.240 --> 13:59.920]  it wasn't. It was in Chicago. So I called Chicago and asked for the president and asked
[13:59.920 --> 14:05.240]  me if I had a problem. I said, yeah, I need to talk to the president. And I'm sorry, I
[14:05.240 --> 14:09.800]  called first and asked for the president's name. And they jerked me around a little bit
[14:09.800 --> 14:13.920]  and I fed him that line of BS. My son was doing a paper and they told me the president's
[14:13.920 --> 14:19.120]  name. I hung up, called right back, asked for the president by name. And they sent me up
[14:19.120 --> 14:23.240]  to the secretary and I asked for the president a real harsh voice and she said, well, he's
[14:23.240 --> 14:30.320]  not here is the secretary. Well, who is there? Well, Mr. Rice is here. Well, who is he? Well,
[14:30.320 --> 14:36.520]  he's the chairman of the board. Oh, he'll do. And I gave the phone to Mark and Mark is
[14:36.520 --> 14:41.880]  really PO. And I said, Mark, can you talk to this guy? His name is Rice. He's in Chicago.
[14:41.880 --> 14:48.840]  He can help you. And Mark grabbed the phone out of my hand. Look, you Rice USB. I feed
[14:48.840 --> 14:52.840]  you for a private line. You put me on a six party line. I'm going to have my private line
[14:52.840 --> 14:59.200]  if I have to come to Chicago and kick their behind to get it. Damn, you hung up. Darn,
[14:59.200 --> 15:04.040]  Mike. Mark, you know who that was? I don't know some Rice character. That was the chairman
[15:04.040 --> 15:14.240]  of the board. The next day, I pulled up to his trailer house. And I bet there were 200
[15:14.240 --> 15:21.920]  guys out there. But polls back hose. It was a heck of a mess. Two years later, the head
[15:21.920 --> 15:27.560]  of maintenance for Centel, I saw him in a hardware store. And he said, Oh, man, you
[15:27.560 --> 15:31.400]  shouldn't have done that. So done what? Call the chairman of the board. You almost got
[15:31.400 --> 15:39.640]  my boss fired. Where's the sovereigns? We can do that kind of stuff. And I suggest we
[15:39.640 --> 15:45.320]  act like it. We don't deal with these minions down at the bottom. They give us a problem.
[15:45.320 --> 15:51.880]  We go up to the top. Wean the top good. For the time it trickles down to the bottom, everybody
[15:51.880 --> 15:56.640]  is in trouble. Does that make sense? Walt?
[15:56.640 --> 16:04.680]  I'm listening. Can I just ask you one final quick question? Absolutely. All right. It's
[16:04.680 --> 16:08.840]  general information on due process. And I know you're very good with that. It's a traffic
[16:08.840 --> 16:14.280]  thing, but I don't have to talk to any bosses. A general question. When you've got traffic
[16:14.280 --> 16:19.040]  tickets and they tell you to go to court in the state on those tickets and you show up.
[16:19.040 --> 16:24.640]  Is that stage right there? Is this what you plead or not? Or you just make a statement
[16:24.640 --> 16:29.200]  that you don't have jurisdiction or whatever. That's not the examining trial, is it? What
[16:29.200 --> 16:33.000]  are the first few steps that you take in those kind of cases?
[16:33.000 --> 16:38.920]  Hmm. Okay. I hear the music. The first step I would take would be to call Eddie Craig
[16:38.920 --> 16:44.360]  on Monday night and ask him that question. This really is a due process question. Okay.
[16:44.360 --> 16:50.360]  But your question was not clear enough. So when we come back, I want to get the question
[16:50.360 --> 16:55.320]  more clear so I can answer it appropriately. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore with our radio.
[16:55.320 --> 17:00.800]  I'll call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[19:29.680 --> 19:39.520]  Welcome back to ruleoflalradio folks. 512-646-1984 puts you in touch with us and before we went
[19:39.520 --> 19:47.640]  to break, we're speaking with Walton, New York. I don't think, Walton, did you get your
[19:47.640 --> 19:54.080]  question? I think you did get your question. I wanted it more clear. Yes, yes. Objections
[19:54.080 --> 19:59.520]  blue for more definite question. Yes, can you re-ask that question? Right at the end,
[19:59.520 --> 20:04.760]  you slipped in something vague and I went through the break and I can't stipulate exactly
[20:04.760 --> 20:11.640]  what it was. Can you re-ask the question? Okay. If you have traffic tickets requiring
[20:11.640 --> 20:17.560]  you to show up in court, when you first appear in court for those tickets, what do you call
[20:17.560 --> 20:22.400]  that session? When they want you to plead or not plead guilty or not guilty or say you
[20:22.400 --> 20:27.560]  want to say like any would try to say, well, you had no jurisdiction, you could say that.
[20:27.560 --> 20:35.760]  What steps does the court take? Okay, hold on, hold on. Now I see where my problem was.
[20:35.760 --> 20:44.880]  When you signed the traffic, that's a citation, you agreed to appear in court but you did not
[20:44.880 --> 20:53.080]  agree to appear before the court of original jurisdiction. You agreed to appear before
[20:53.080 --> 21:06.480]  a magistrate for the purpose of an examining trial. A hearing for the purpose of determining
[21:06.480 --> 21:14.640]  the identity of the accused and taking a plea, that is an arraignment hearing and a court
[21:14.640 --> 21:21.320]  can only hold an arraignment hearing once it has subject matter jurisdiction and it
[21:21.320 --> 21:33.400]  can't get jurisdiction until there is an examining trial. So you're there for an examining trial.
[21:33.400 --> 21:40.840]  Not an arraignment. That's why I had problems with the questions because it mixed up the
[21:40.840 --> 21:47.280]  two. Okay, so you're there. They want to get all the correct information from you. That's
[21:47.280 --> 21:51.880]  the first step, the first time you're in court. And by the way, say the traffic tickets were
[21:51.880 --> 21:59.040]  not signed by anybody. You just received them, refused to sign anything. You go to the court
[21:59.040 --> 22:05.600]  and then you say that... Okay, hold on. If you refuse to sign the ticket and you went
[22:05.600 --> 22:11.720]  to court anyway, then the refusal to sign is irrelevant. Yep. Because you haven't seen
[22:11.720 --> 22:23.800]  it. But signing the ticket does not waive any rights. It only is an agreement that you
[22:23.800 --> 22:30.800]  will appear before a magistrate. Not a judge. Is that an examining trial when you've been
[22:30.800 --> 22:36.800]  there the first time? No. An examining... What they do when the first time there is they
[22:36.800 --> 22:46.400]  get the clerk to take a plea. That is an arraignment or a bastardized arraignment. Could be a pre-trial,
[22:46.400 --> 22:54.160]  a pre-trial hearing. Was this in court or was this in the jury room with the prosecutor?
[22:54.160 --> 22:57.240]  It doesn't matter what you see. If you're not going to believe the whole story, it's
[22:57.240 --> 23:05.760]  insane. Well, let's... Let me get an answer to the question that I asked. When you...
[23:05.760 --> 23:11.280]  I take it that you appeared. I presume that you appeared. When you appeared, did you go
[23:11.280 --> 23:15.320]  off into some little room with the prosecutor and ask a bunch of silly questions and get
[23:15.320 --> 23:24.480]  some Cheshire cat grins from the prosecutor or was your first appearance in court?
[23:24.480 --> 23:27.880]  All right. This is what's important for me. It's from my former wife's time. I was
[23:27.880 --> 23:31.200]  appeared with him. I was standing right by him, but we went to the court. Now, when I
[23:31.200 --> 23:36.360]  tell you this, you're not going to believe it. The judge was not there and the deputy
[23:36.360 --> 23:41.320]  clerk was acting as the judge and tried to force this young man to plead. He put the
[23:41.320 --> 23:49.880]  pen in his hand. Oh, no, no, no. Deputy clerk is not a judge nor a magistrate. He has no
[23:49.880 --> 24:00.400]  authority to do that. Impersonating a public official. Thank you. That's what happened.
[24:00.400 --> 24:08.480]  Now, the clerk was in fact a public official, but the clerk was impersonating a different
[24:08.480 --> 24:14.640]  person, public official, which the clerk was not. I didn't say judicial officer because
[24:14.640 --> 24:20.800]  the statute doesn't say impersonating a judicial officer. It's impersonating a public official.
[24:20.800 --> 24:27.200]  So she was impersonating a judicial officer, which she was not. That should get a criminal
[24:27.200 --> 24:31.640]  complaint against her. Excuse me, Randy. It wasn't a clerk. I made a mistake. It was
[24:31.640 --> 24:40.720]  a deputy officer, a cop that was acting as the judge. Okay. Same thing. Same thing.
[24:40.720 --> 24:50.000]  This is New York. Normally in New York, they actually have examining trials. I think New
[24:50.000 --> 24:56.480]  York may be the only state that actually does that. Your first appearance in court, they
[24:56.480 --> 25:01.880]  have a magistrate. This judge is sitting as a magistrate. Do you remember the comedy
[25:01.880 --> 25:11.720]  program night court? Yes. That was, while it was a comedy, constitutionally it was dead
[25:11.720 --> 25:20.080]  on and New York's the only place that does it. So if the traffic is done the same as
[25:20.080 --> 25:28.680]  the criminal, then the judge was sitting as a magistrate. If he were a judge, if he was
[25:28.680 --> 25:39.240]  a judge, if it was a police officer, I would look at New York law and see if there is some
[25:39.240 --> 25:46.480]  statutory provision for that. Now, certainly you could challenge it if there is, but I
[25:46.480 --> 25:53.680]  would look first in Albany and they said, no way possible can a police officer adjudicate
[25:53.680 --> 25:59.560]  a case, any case in the court. Good. Then charge the officer who was impersonating
[25:59.560 --> 26:11.400]  a public official. That should have got a 911 call. That gets so exciting. When you call
[26:11.400 --> 26:16.120]  the police on the police and you get this policeman come down there, you know, when
[26:16.120 --> 26:21.280]  I talk to a dispatch, they always want to try to give me legal advice. They start asking
[26:21.280 --> 26:28.880]  me questions. It's none of their business. First thing I ask them, are you a lawyer?
[26:28.880 --> 26:34.400]  And they'll say, no, then quit asking me these questions. I don't need any legal advice.
[26:34.400 --> 26:39.400]  Get someone down here to respond to my complaint. And then when the officer gets there, you
[26:39.400 --> 26:46.720]  tell the officer that you want to, the officer to take your complaint against this other officer
[26:46.720 --> 26:54.240]  for impersonating a public official. And he'll do some garbage like, well, he is a public
[26:54.240 --> 27:00.160]  official. You just get out your paperwork and take my complaint. I don't care what he
[27:00.160 --> 27:05.840]  is. And then he'll do all kinds of... He was not there. He may have been a public
[27:05.840 --> 27:11.640]  official, but he was not in the capacity in which he claimed.
[27:11.640 --> 27:17.080]  Yes. And you have no duty to explain all this to that officer.
[27:17.080 --> 27:18.080]  Nope.
[27:18.080 --> 27:21.840]  He's there to take a complaint and to memorialize your complaint.
[27:21.840 --> 27:23.840]  And that's it.
[27:23.840 --> 27:30.320]  And he's not going to want to do that. But squeeze up behind that thin blue line and protect
[27:30.320 --> 27:37.920]  his buddy. The problem he has is you're the victim. You're the one that called 9-1-1.
[27:37.920 --> 27:43.480]  What does he do now? It gets real tough for him.
[27:43.480 --> 27:48.840]  Frank, can I just finish up on my question there about the first time you're at court
[27:48.840 --> 27:54.000]  facing a judge, let's say, with the tickets, they say, what do you plead? Do you plead
[27:54.000 --> 27:59.800]  or not? What is the next step that the judge in the court takes with you?
[27:59.800 --> 28:07.280]  In a proper hearing, okay, I can only respond, this is so technical, I can only respond to
[28:07.280 --> 28:14.640]  Texas law. Texas law grants you the opportunity to make a statement before any evidence is
[28:14.640 --> 28:17.680]  introduced against you.
[28:17.680 --> 28:23.480]  So the first thing they should do is ask you for a statement if you want to give a statement.
[28:23.480 --> 28:30.800]  How an examining trial is conducted in New York may be somewhat different. But if it's
[28:30.800 --> 28:37.760]  an examining trial, the first thing you require is to be faced by your accuser. So when you
[28:37.760 --> 28:43.800]  get before the judge, the first thing you should ask for, where is my accuser? I want
[28:43.800 --> 28:55.520]  to be faced by my accuser. This is an examining trial. It is an important, I'm trying to think
[28:55.520 --> 29:04.800]  of the exact word, a critical stage in the prosecution. It's critical because they need
[29:04.800 --> 29:12.520]  an examining trial to establish subject matter jurisdiction for the court. So it's critical.
[29:12.520 --> 29:17.640]  And at every critical stage, all of your rights are protected. One of the rights is to be
[29:17.640 --> 29:19.800]  faced by your accuser.
[29:19.800 --> 29:24.880]  All right, Randy, so you're saying the first time you go to court, that is the examining
[29:24.880 --> 29:27.600]  trial when you get the witness?
[29:27.600 --> 29:29.080]  It has to be.
[29:29.080 --> 29:34.840]  It doesn't mean that it is.
[29:34.840 --> 29:39.960]  You should act as though it is. They will want to act as though it's something else.
[29:39.960 --> 29:44.240]  In order for them to get subject matter jurisdiction, there has to be a determination of probable
[29:44.240 --> 29:45.240]  cause.
[29:45.240 --> 29:46.240]  Okay.
[29:46.240 --> 29:47.240]  Thank you, Randy.
[29:47.240 --> 29:48.240]  Steve.
[29:48.240 --> 29:52.720]  You are welcome. Okay, Mary, I see you there. We'll pick you up on the other side. Randy
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[33:53.960 --> 34:04.960]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio folks. 512-646-1984 will get you in line behind Marion, Texas.
[34:04.960 --> 34:24.960]  Mary, I think I know who you are. Yes, I know who you are. Ha, honey, how are you? I'm
[34:24.960 --> 34:34.960]  good. Of course she does. That's all that counts, isn't it? Sometimes. What have you got for
[34:34.960 --> 34:44.320]  us tonight? I got three things. I had to call the cops on the cops before. That's always
[34:44.320 --> 34:50.960]  fun, isn't it? Yeah, we were in the million musician march for peace and for the end of
[34:50.960 --> 34:55.960]  the street, the cops started driving too close to all my old hippies friends. So I started
[34:55.960 --> 35:01.960]  walking in the rear and they started driving around me. I got my phone out, started acting
[35:01.960 --> 35:05.960]  like I was videotaping, and they said, we're going to take that video, we're going to take
[35:05.960 --> 35:09.960]  that, and then I held it up higher. I said, this is going to the city council. This is
[35:09.960 --> 35:15.960]  going to the city council. And they tried to square me off, and they got me out of the
[35:15.960 --> 35:24.960]  crowd somehow. And boy, I was lucky I didn't get arrested. And finally, I was at City Hall
[35:24.960 --> 35:30.960]  and I went and called 911 on them, and they had to get confused because I was calling 911
[35:30.960 --> 35:36.960]  on the cops and they said, well, do you want to talk to their boss? I said, well, yeah,
[35:36.960 --> 35:40.960]  I'd like to talk to their boss too, but say 911 is one out. I need to make a report. And
[35:40.960 --> 35:46.960]  I don't know, I literally took them 20, 30 minutes to even come out. It was so confused
[35:46.960 --> 35:56.960]  about responding to my call. And you sound surprised. Well, it was a while ago, and I
[35:56.960 --> 36:02.960]  tried to make a complaint at the police monitor's office, and they let me record all the meetings
[36:02.960 --> 36:08.960]  I had there with their lower level interviewer. And then once the whole committee was going
[36:08.960 --> 36:14.960]  to make a statement about what happened between me and Sergeant McMorrison or something, I
[36:14.960 --> 36:21.960]  put my tape recorder down on the conference table, and the lady said, oh, that goes against
[36:21.960 --> 36:27.960]  our contract. That's a what contract? Don't care about your contract. I'm not a party to
[36:27.960 --> 36:34.960]  it. My contract, my contract, whose contract? Our contract with the police union. So I took
[36:34.960 --> 36:41.960]  my tape recorder and I walked straight out of there. Hang on just a second. Randy, mute
[36:41.960 --> 36:50.960]  your mic. You're drowning out the caller. There you go. Try it again, Mary. So I think
[36:50.960 --> 36:58.960]  I'm ready to start practicing law. Oh, you got to have a license to practice law. Well,
[36:58.960 --> 37:08.960]  I've been watching Boston Legal every night. Oh, good. That ought to get you somewhere.
[37:08.960 --> 37:19.960]  You could get a bar card. I'll find all the little tricks out. So what was the result
[37:19.960 --> 37:26.960]  of your 911 call? A bunch of nothing. I went to the police monitor's office and this and
[37:26.960 --> 37:31.960]  that, and I made friends with some people from the local Austin Center Peace and Justice
[37:31.960 --> 37:36.960]  though and started working with them and they started working with me. So I made some friends.
[37:36.960 --> 37:42.960]  Good. I had a long talk with the former director of it, Cliff Brown, who's now a judge. And
[37:42.960 --> 37:47.960]  by the way, people, on this last election, a lot of these judges went uncontested. We
[37:47.960 --> 37:51.960]  got to do something about that the next round. We all got to start running for judge. I don't
[37:51.960 --> 37:56.960]  have to grain party, peace party, libertarians, whatever. We got to get out there and at
[37:56.960 --> 38:03.960]  least contest these judges, guys. Come on. Well, I see here in Travis County, Texas,
[38:03.960 --> 38:15.960]  precinct two, the former banker named Glenn Bass has gotten beaten out by a guy, I believe
[38:15.960 --> 38:20.960]  his name is Schlegel, Glenn Bass. My biggest problem with Glenn Bass, I don't have a problem
[38:20.960 --> 38:26.960]  going in front of Bass with a ticket issue, but anything concerning a debtor creditor
[38:26.960 --> 38:33.960]  issue, no, I don't want that in front of Glenn Bass. Glenn Bass is very proud of his
[38:33.960 --> 38:38.960]  education that he got in the banking industry in the 23 years that he's spent in the
[38:38.960 --> 38:45.960]  banking industry. He's a banker. I don't care if he's in a black robe. He's still a banker
[38:45.960 --> 38:51.960]  by mentality. I don't want my debtor creditor issues in front of this man. He is
[38:51.960 --> 39:01.960]  bias and prejudice to the very center of the core. Now, Schlegel, never been, I think
[39:01.960 --> 39:06.960]  the only dealings he has with the bank is go cash his check. I don't have a problem
[39:06.960 --> 39:13.960]  with that. There's no bias. There's no built-in prejudice. Glad to see Mr. Bass
[39:13.960 --> 39:19.960]  remove from the bench. The sooner, the better.
[39:19.960 --> 39:25.960]  Nice. Yeah, we need to start having more dialogue about these judges and attorneys.
[39:25.960 --> 39:30.960]  Come up soon here, I'm going to start having a monthly barbeque party at
[39:30.960 --> 39:34.960]  Brave New Books on a Friday night. I already talked to Harlan about that.
[39:34.960 --> 39:38.960]  There's Brave New Books for those in the area or those who would like to travel.
[39:38.960 --> 39:46.960]  Brave New Books for 1904 Guadalupe Street, right there on the loop. Go by and
[39:46.960 --> 39:54.960]  see them. If you don't go by to attend an event, at least go by and patronize them.
[39:54.960 --> 40:01.960]  These guys, they are absolutely true to the core, freedom-loving individuals who
[40:01.960 --> 40:07.960]  believe in the dissemination of useful knowledge. Brave New Books is also
[40:07.960 --> 40:12.960]  available on the web. Go by and see them. If you're not in the Austin area,
[40:12.960 --> 40:18.960]  go to their website. Yes, they're awesome.
[40:18.960 --> 40:24.960]  I thought I was real smart this summer. One of my friends from the drum circle
[40:24.960 --> 40:29.960]  there every Sunday told me where do I get some good clean spring water from
[40:29.960 --> 40:35.960]  Sculpture Garden. I remember you telling me about that.
[40:35.960 --> 40:39.960]  Being my water jug, spilling them up until about two or three weeks later,
[40:39.960 --> 40:43.960]  I was in that bathroom all night long, taking care of it.
[40:43.960 --> 40:46.960]  There you go. Okay.
[40:46.960 --> 40:51.960]  I thought it was good for a while, but it was a hard summer.
[40:51.960 --> 40:56.960]  Nonetheless, I still ran for mayor. I got about 7,000 votes.
[40:56.960 --> 41:03.960]  I shut up on two little debates and spent a lot of my time helping a disabled
[41:03.960 --> 41:08.960]  this summer, but I got enough in the news and enough little coverage here and
[41:08.960 --> 41:13.960]  there. I got some votes and it really made myself a damaged party in
[41:13.960 --> 41:19.960]  unconstitutional elections. We're getting close on the time where I'm going to
[41:19.960 --> 41:23.960]  start working on a suit against the city for unconstitutional elections
[41:23.960 --> 41:26.960]  following a suit from Germany about three weeks ago.
[41:26.960 --> 41:30.960]  Good for you. Good for you.
[41:30.960 --> 41:35.960]  I'm going to be reaching out to y'all. Randy knows this, Mike knows this,
[41:35.960 --> 41:41.960]  Aladeff, Ben Harris in California, Black Box voting, maybe Bob Schultz,
[41:41.960 --> 41:47.960]  maybe ACLU, and hopefully we will bring in the United States Supreme Court
[41:47.960 --> 41:54.960]  and get some, maybe some changes about the way these elections can be hacked
[41:54.960 --> 41:59.960]  and bought and sold like any enterprise testified.
[41:59.960 --> 42:04.960]  My problem with elections is they're not elections.
[42:04.960 --> 42:10.960]  Right. I can't take the whole time in voting.
[42:10.960 --> 42:16.960]  Well, I've got a problem about voting. We go back to the Constitution.
[42:16.960 --> 42:19.960]  Let's go down this little rabbit hole right quick.
[42:19.960 --> 42:27.960]  Let's go back to the Constitution. Who can elect? Only a landowner can elect.
[42:27.960 --> 42:37.960]  How do you become a landowner? If you possess property, if you possess land by deed,
[42:37.960 --> 42:47.960]  then you have an inferior interest in your land compared to land patent.
[42:47.960 --> 42:54.960]  Once you accept land patent, you have superior deed.
[42:54.960 --> 43:00.960]  There is nothing above a land patent, period, bar none.
[43:00.960 --> 43:08.960]  So if you possess property by deed, you only have ownership interest.
[43:08.960 --> 43:14.960]  If you possess land by patent, you own it.
[43:14.960 --> 43:23.960]  So if you possess land by patent, you are no longer a voter.
[43:23.960 --> 43:28.960]  You are not telling your electors who you want as your next slave master.
[43:28.960 --> 43:35.960]  You are an elector, not a voter or voter.
[43:35.960 --> 43:40.960]  Folks, we can take over the Electoral College.
[43:40.960 --> 43:46.960]  Think about that over the break. 512-646-1984.
[43:46.960 --> 43:49.960]  Mary stay with us. We'll be right back after this brief message.
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[46:13.960 --> 46:29.960]  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[46:29.960 --> 46:34.960]  When I'm hungry, I'd like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[46:34.960 --> 46:40.960]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[46:40.960 --> 46:45.960]  I'm just here making my living, pushing buttons.
[46:45.960 --> 46:50.960]  Welcome back to rule of law radio on this beautiful, brisk Friday evening.
[46:50.960 --> 46:56.960]  It is the 7th of November tonight and we're speaking with Mary in Texas.
[46:56.960 --> 47:02.960]  Mary, you have a reputation for stirring the pot, my dear, and I love you for it.
[47:02.960 --> 47:08.960]  Did what I said before I went out on the break, did that make any sense to you at all?
[47:08.960 --> 47:15.960]  The difference between voter status and elector status?
[47:15.960 --> 47:18.960]  I think I lost you. I don't know if you can hear me.
[47:18.960 --> 47:20.960]  I can hear you.
[47:20.960 --> 47:24.960]  Okay, to just briefly nutshell it again.
[47:24.960 --> 47:29.960]  If you possess property by deed, you're a voter.
[47:29.960 --> 47:35.960]  If you own property by patent, you're an elector.
[47:35.960 --> 47:47.960]  If there are enough people in the continental United States who would get or accept patent on their land,
[47:47.960 --> 47:54.960]  now the upper 48 compared to Texas are the difference between night and day.
[47:54.960 --> 48:05.960]  Texas has secured their right to secede from the union, therefore we do not work off of the Bureau of Land Management.
[48:05.960 --> 48:11.960]  We have the Texas General Land Office, the GLO.
[48:11.960 --> 48:23.960]  However, patent is available to anybody who possesses land by deed, deed being inferior to patent.
[48:23.960 --> 48:28.960]  Patent showing ownership or superior title.
[48:28.960 --> 48:39.960]  You cannot get a more superior title to land than land patent.
[48:39.960 --> 48:42.960]  We go back to the Constitution.
[48:42.960 --> 48:45.960]  Who can elect?
[48:45.960 --> 48:48.960]  Only land owners can elect.
[48:48.960 --> 48:50.960]  Everybody else votes.
[48:50.960 --> 48:55.960]  This gives us two different classes.
[48:55.960 --> 48:56.960]  Wow.
[48:56.960 --> 49:03.960]  If you're a voter, you're telling your elector who you want as your next slave master.
[49:03.960 --> 49:09.960]  If you're an elector, you are electing a representative.
[49:09.960 --> 49:15.960]  Big major difference.
[49:15.960 --> 49:17.960]  Yep.
[49:17.960 --> 49:21.960]  Okay, that's the problem I have with voting.
[49:21.960 --> 49:26.960]  That's why I do not participate in that charade.
[49:26.960 --> 49:36.960]  I refuse because I know as a slave, my vote does not count.
[49:36.960 --> 49:39.960]  I don't own land.
[49:39.960 --> 49:44.960]  I possess it by deed.
[49:44.960 --> 49:52.960]  If I were to accept the land patent here in Texas that was originally issued by the Republic of Texas,
[49:52.960 --> 50:00.960]  and anybody who has a warranty deed and a plat map,
[50:00.960 --> 50:09.960]  they can go down to 1700 North Congress, three blocks north of the state capitol here in Texas,
[50:09.960 --> 50:13.960]  go to the archives room, if you go in the front door, you turn to your left.
[50:13.960 --> 50:16.960]  There's people hanging from rafters like bats.
[50:16.960 --> 50:21.960]  Very glad to see other folks come in because they rarely see anybody come in.
[50:21.960 --> 50:23.960]  Very helpful.
[50:23.960 --> 50:30.960]  You get your certified copies of the land patent and file all of those documents.
[50:30.960 --> 50:37.960]  That is your warranty deed showing that a certain piece of property was conveyed to you.
[50:37.960 --> 50:44.960]  Your plat map that shows the meets and bounds of the piece of property that was conveyed to you.
[50:44.960 --> 50:50.960]  A certified copy of the original land patent issued by the Republic of Texas.
[50:50.960 --> 50:54.960]  Now, let me differentiate between the Republic and the state.
[50:54.960 --> 51:01.960]  If you go get a new patent issued by the state, the state will be glad to issue that to you, grant that to you,
[51:01.960 --> 51:06.960]  but they will remove water and mineral rights immediately.
[51:06.960 --> 51:16.960]  But if you accept the existing land patent, keeping in mind that 98% of all the land in Texas has been patented back in the 1800s,
[51:16.960 --> 51:23.960]  with the exception of the only public land that being our school districts,
[51:23.960 --> 51:31.960]  98% of the land has been patented, you can accept the original existing land patent,
[51:31.960 --> 51:36.960]  making you a land owner, you own it.
[51:36.960 --> 51:41.960]  You are no longer a slave class voter.
[51:41.960 --> 51:44.960]  You are now an elector.
[51:44.960 --> 51:50.960]  We can overtake or take possession of the Electoral College.
[51:50.960 --> 51:54.960]  What kind of power does that put in our hands, people?
[51:54.960 --> 52:04.960]  Okay, how do we, as a land owner, get into the Electoral College?
[52:04.960 --> 52:06.960]  We become electors.
[52:06.960 --> 52:11.960]  Right now, the Electoral College is comprised of electors.
[52:11.960 --> 52:18.960]  If we become electors, we can outnumber them.
[52:18.960 --> 52:23.960]  We then have the controlling power.
[52:23.960 --> 52:31.960]  Okay, there is something, how do we express our elector status?
[52:31.960 --> 52:33.960]  That I haven't gotten to yet.
[52:33.960 --> 52:35.960]  Okay, that I need to give to.
[52:35.960 --> 52:40.960]  We need to go back to the Constitution for that.
[52:40.960 --> 52:42.960]  Cool, we can do it.
[52:42.960 --> 52:43.960]  Hey, what are we going to do?
[52:43.960 --> 52:49.960]  Are we going to help Ken, this next legislative season?
[52:49.960 --> 52:53.960]  Again, I don't participate in that charade.
[52:53.960 --> 52:55.960]  Help Ken, who?
[52:55.960 --> 52:57.960]  Is this the work?
[52:57.960 --> 53:01.960]  Is he going to put us to work again?
[53:01.960 --> 53:02.960]  Ken Magnuson.
[53:02.960 --> 53:03.960]  Oh, okay, yeah.
[53:03.960 --> 53:07.960]  Ken Magnuson is looking at running for office.
[53:07.960 --> 53:10.960]  I want to make sure he's the right Ken.
[53:10.960 --> 53:12.960]  Yeah, absolutely, we'll help him.
[53:12.960 --> 53:13.960]  Your computer.
[53:13.960 --> 53:17.960]  What are you reading?
[53:17.960 --> 53:20.960]  Wait, do that again?
[53:20.960 --> 53:22.960]  Sounds like you're reading your computer.
[53:22.960 --> 53:23.960]  What are you reading?
[53:23.960 --> 53:28.960]  No, I'm not reading my computer.
[53:28.960 --> 53:32.960]  He stays in pretty constant contact with Mr. Magnuson.
[53:32.960 --> 53:35.960]  Are we going to work with Ken again at the ledge?
[53:35.960 --> 53:39.960]  Yeah, when he runs for office, definitely we're going to work to help him.
[53:39.960 --> 53:46.960]  I've been working with Ken and we have just recently got a district judge
[53:46.960 --> 53:48.960]  in the family court hammered big time.
[53:48.960 --> 53:50.960]  We may get him out of office.
[53:50.960 --> 53:51.960]  Oh, nice.
[53:51.960 --> 53:53.960]  Yeah, Judge Sinha.
[53:53.960 --> 53:56.960]  I'll tell you what, if there's any more corrupt courts,
[53:56.960 --> 53:59.960]  at least here in the state of Texas, it's family courts.
[53:59.960 --> 54:05.960]  Yeah, absolutely, and this judge was absolutely abominable.
[54:05.960 --> 54:12.960]  And we helped this woman go after him and we filed criminal complaints against the judge
[54:12.960 --> 54:16.960]  in a motion to disqualify.
[54:16.960 --> 54:22.960]  They had this woman arrested a Friday so that she wouldn't be able to participate
[54:22.960 --> 54:25.960]  in a court hearing on the next Tuesday.
[54:25.960 --> 54:27.960]  Oh, God.
[54:27.960 --> 54:31.960]  And the warrant was issued illegally.
[54:31.960 --> 54:38.960]  A lawyer for the county petitioned the court for a contempt of court order,
[54:38.960 --> 54:46.960]  ordering her arrest. The day he got the order, he petitioned, he signed the order.
[54:46.960 --> 54:50.960]  They were under the family law.
[54:50.960 --> 54:56.960]  Whenever there is an issue that affects the liberty of one of the litigants,
[54:56.960 --> 54:57.960]  they must have counsel.
[54:57.960 --> 54:59.960]  There must be a hearing.
[54:59.960 --> 55:01.960]  The judge signed this order without a hearing.
[55:01.960 --> 55:03.960]  The woman didn't have counsel.
[55:03.960 --> 55:05.960]  They had to appoint her counsel and hold a hearing.
[55:05.960 --> 55:08.960]  Put her in jail Friday.
[55:08.960 --> 55:10.960]  Her brother came down and posted bail that day.
[55:10.960 --> 55:12.960]  They didn't let her out until Sunday.
[55:12.960 --> 55:15.960]  They beat her up in the jail, had to take her to the hospital.
[55:15.960 --> 55:17.960]  Just a horrible mess.
[55:17.960 --> 55:22.960]  And they're constantly telling her that this is because she messed with Sinha.
[55:22.960 --> 55:27.960]  So we prepared a motion to disqualify.
[55:27.960 --> 55:31.960]  The head administrative judge of the district dismissed it out of hand without a hearing.
[55:31.960 --> 55:35.960]  And then he retired, but he was doing that anyway.
[55:35.960 --> 55:39.960]  They appointed a new head administrative judge.
[55:39.960 --> 55:42.960]  We filed a motion for reconsideration with him.
[55:42.960 --> 55:45.960]  He denied it without a hearing.
[55:45.960 --> 55:48.960]  So we filed a judicial conduct complaint against him.
[55:48.960 --> 55:50.960]  And that got him off the dime.
[55:50.960 --> 55:52.960]  He agreed to rehear.
[55:52.960 --> 56:00.960]  At the hearing, we had filed a petition for court of inquiry.
[56:00.960 --> 56:08.960]  He severed the court of inquiry from the district court and signed it to a separate court.
[56:08.960 --> 56:17.960]  And told the woman, you can file criminal charges with the grand jury against this judge.
[56:17.960 --> 56:21.960]  Through him under the bus.
[56:21.960 --> 56:27.960]  Two days later, the judge recused himself.
[56:27.960 --> 56:29.960]  Oh, thank God.
[56:29.960 --> 56:39.960]  So this is, I think this administrative judge is looking to run for kin thinks he's weren't going to run for Supreme Court.
[56:39.960 --> 56:44.960]  And he's afraid we're going to paint his image.
[56:44.960 --> 56:47.960]  And that's why he did this.
[56:47.960 --> 56:49.960]  And he was right. We would have painted his image.
[56:49.960 --> 56:56.960]  We may still yet, but we may actually wind up taking out a district judge.
[56:56.960 --> 56:58.960]  That'll be great.
[56:58.960 --> 57:01.960]  The political climate is changing radically.
[57:01.960 --> 57:06.960]  So if ever there was a time to move, this seems to be it.
[57:06.960 --> 57:10.960]  And if we can become electors, that's a big deal.
[57:10.960 --> 57:12.960]  Yeah, yeah.
[57:12.960 --> 57:14.960]  Agreed.
[57:14.960 --> 57:20.960]  And I like the way Randy, you were talking about the difference between registration and arraignment.
[57:20.960 --> 57:27.960]  The agreement to those registration only.
[57:27.960 --> 57:30.960]  Yeah, these are, this is a couple of the things I'm working on.
[57:30.960 --> 57:32.960]  I'm here in Wise County.
[57:32.960 --> 57:47.960]  And eight years ago, I ran against, I ran for sheriff and ran out of money in the process and had to back out and voted for the person who's now sheriff.
[57:47.960 --> 57:55.960]  But at the time I talked to him, you know, and we did a couple of meetings where I explained my platform.
[57:55.960 --> 58:04.960]  And that was if a person is arrested in Wise County, they will be taken directly to the nearest magistrate.
[58:04.960 --> 58:13.960]  And if one of our public officials violates a law that's relating to his office, I will arrest him myself.
[58:13.960 --> 58:19.960]  And the new sheriff picked up the take to a magistrate.
[58:19.960 --> 58:22.960]  In this county, if you're arrested, you're taken directly to a magistrate.
[58:22.960 --> 58:25.960]  And I'll explain the results of that when I get back.
[58:25.960 --> 58:27.960]  This is Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore.
[58:27.960 --> 58:28.960]  We have our radio.
[58:28.960 --> 58:32.960]  I call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:32.960 --> 58:33.960]  Give us a call.
[58:33.960 --> 58:38.960]  We're going to our top of the hour break, but we have one more hour.
[58:38.960 --> 58:41.960]  We have David and Shane in New York.
[58:41.960 --> 58:43.960]  We'll try to get to everybody.
[58:43.960 --> 58:45.960]  If you have a question or comment, give us a call.
[58:45.960 --> 58:47.960]  It builds up toward the end.
[58:47.960 --> 58:50.960]  We'll be right back.
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[01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:06.960]  Okay, we are back.
[01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.960]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Rural Broad Radio.
[01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:15.960]  And we're talking to Mary in Texas.
[01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.960]  Hello, Mary.
[01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:18.960]  Hello.
[01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:25.960]  I'm kind of intrigued about the concept of electors.
[01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:31.960]  There's been a lot of complaining about the electoral college.
[01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:38.960]  And what Steve had to say seemed to really make some sense.
[01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:45.960]  And it makes me wonder why this hasn't been approached before.
[01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.960]  Some of the best things in life are well-kept secrets.
[01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:52.960]  Yeah, it's exactly right.
[01:04:52.960 --> 01:05:04.960]  My father-in-law years and years ago told me that anything you could think of, somebody else has already come up with, he could not have been more wrong.
[01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.960]  I am very close to getting my electronic lawyer launched.
[01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:20.960]  And when I look at it, I went to a meeting of cognitive programmers that's programming based on cognitive behavioral therapy.
[01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:26.960]  He's trying to teach a computer to act like a human being.
[01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:32.960]  And I told him that, you know, I was trying to develop a basic model of the living mind.
[01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:43.960]  And in the process of doing that, I developed this electronic lawyer and this electronic lawyer can beat the crap out of any living lawyer.
[01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:51.960]  And it has absolutely no intelligence at all because they were talking about artificial intelligence.
[01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.960]  This could have been done 30 years ago.
[01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.960]  What I'm doing is really straightforward.
[01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.960]  It's not that I had to wait for the technology.
[01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.960]  What I had to wait for was the imagination.
[01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:12.960]  That's all that was missing.
[01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.960]  We just had to reimagine how to do it.
[01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:27.960]  And when Steve was talking about a patent holder as an elector, holy mackerel.
[01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:38.960]  In Texas, it's easier to patent land than through the land bureau with the federal government.
[01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:45.960]  So we could get a whole stack of electors here and take over.
[01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:47.960]  Nice.
[01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:52.960]  We definitely need to research that out.
[01:06:52.960 --> 01:07:04.960]  I've got five lots here right in downtown, a little quarter of a city block.
[01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:14.960]  If I could patent that quarter of a city block and then become an elector in the electoral college,
[01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:23.960]  step up there and vote with my vote with these and if we could get several hundred in Texas,
[01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:29.960]  we couldn't be elected to the electoral college.
[01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.960]  Tell me.
[01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.960]  That is an intriguing idea.
[01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:38.960]  Steve, you're not near as dumb as everybody says.
[01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:40.960]  Not as dumb as I look.
[01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:42.960]  I wasn't going to say that.
[01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.960]  That's all right.
[01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.960]  You didn't have to already.
[01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:49.960]  That is very intriguing.
[01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:52.960]  And if anybody out there listening has any information on this subject,
[01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.960]  we would certainly appreciate hearing.
[01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.960]  OK, Mary, do you have anything else for us?
[01:07:59.960 --> 01:08:04.960]  I appreciate y'all.
[01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:05.960]  Wait, I couldn't hear that.
[01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:07.960]  I appreciate y'all.
[01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:08.960]  I appreciate y'all.
[01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:10.960]  Can you hear me?
[01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:12.960]  Kind of.
[01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:14.960]  You're really muffled.
[01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:15.960]  Put that down.
[01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:16.960]  I think y'all.
[01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:17.960]  There you go.
[01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:18.960]  Thank you, Mary.
[01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:20.960]  I appreciate you calling in.
[01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:24.960]  And so be a stranger.
[01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:26.960]  Oh, Mary's not a stranger.
[01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:27.960]  Oh, yes, she is.
[01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.960]  But I didn't want to be a stranger.
[01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.960]  Speaking of electorates, I believe Dave in South Dakota has a comment about electorates.
[01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:37.960]  Hello, Dave.
[01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:39.960]  How are you?
[01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.960]  It's David here, Steve.
[01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.960]  Hello, you and hello, Randy.
[01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:56.960]  The elector, Randy's question was how do you make the world know you're an elector?
[01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:05.960]  You ride in half a David of electorship and you describe how and why you are an elector.
[01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:10.960]  And you use all the historical facts and all the court cases, et cetera.
[01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:16.960]  There's a sample on teamlaw.org or teamlaw.net.
[01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:19.960]  They're the mirror image of each other.
[01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.960]  Is that T-O-U-M-B law?
[01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:23.960]  T-E-A-M.
[01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:24.960]  T-E-A-M.
[01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:25.960]  Okay.
[01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:34.960]  I filled one out a couple of weeks ago and was an elector in the recent election.
[01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:40.960]  But anyway, it's a sworn affidavit.
[01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:42.960]  You take it before notary.
[01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:46.960]  You have two copies made and both copies notarized.
[01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:55.960]  Then you go to the county recorder's office where deeds and miscellaneous things are recorded.
[01:09:55.960 --> 01:10:11.960]  You have a right as an elector or as a landowner to record anything in those deed records that you want to.
[01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:13.960]  Doesn't have to be a deed.
[01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:14.960]  Wait, hold on.
[01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.960]  No, no, no.
[01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:19.960]  There are certain things that can be.
[01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:23.960]  I suspect this can because it goes to land ownership.
[01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:30.960]  But the county recorder's office is set up specifically for real property records.
[01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:40.960]  And we have the people trying to record documents that don't have anything to do with real property and the clerks are objecting.
[01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.960]  And I think rightly so.
[01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:53.960]  You got to keep in mind that land is not real property, land is land, real property sets upon land or it is attached to land.
[01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:57.960]  However, land is a right, land is a right.
[01:10:57.960 --> 01:10:58.960]  Exactly.
[01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:02.960]  And land is not restricted to the surface.
[01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:03.960]  Right, right.
[01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:16.960]  When you own land, you own by patent, you own everything from the center of the earth up through your property lines out into space.
[01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:22.960]  Can you imagine having your own private airspace?
[01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:23.960]  Yes.
[01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:24.960]  Wow.
[01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:33.960]  We have had that for those of us that patent land have had that for a long time, but you're right, Steve.
[01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:35.960]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:36.960]  Wait a minute.
[01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:38.960]  Oh, God.
[01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.960]  I thought that was my strike chord.
[01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:43.960]  Restricted airspace.
[01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:44.960]  Yep.
[01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:46.960]  We have this.
[01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:53.960]  A lot of people concerned with these black helicopters over their land.
[01:11:53.960 --> 01:12:04.960]  Well, there's a man that you and I both know very well out in the town or the province of Dryden, Texas.
[01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:24.960]  Very, very freedom minded constitutional individual who I love to death and our listeners may know Pat in Texas, the guy that hangs, used to hang off the tower to speak on his telephone.
[01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:25.960]  Water tower, yeah.
[01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:26.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:28.960]  He climbs up out of his wheelchair.
[01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:30.960]  He's not a wheelchair.
[01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:37.960]  He would roll out there in his wheelchair and then climb the water tower because that's the only place he could get a signal.
[01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:38.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:39.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:45.960]  Pat had 200 something acres out there is 16 miles from Mexico.
[01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:47.960]  He patented that.
[01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:55.960]  Now, the sheriff might stop at the gate and call Pat on the phone and say, Pat, I need to talk to you.
[01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.960]  Can you come out to the gate or can I come on to your property?
[01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:00.960]  Sure. Come on in.
[01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:01.960]  That's fine.
[01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.960]  Now, he still has a problem with the feds.
[01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:16.960]  The helicopters, the drones, the border patrol cutting his fence and crossing his land because they don't want to go 16 miles down the road.
[01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:25.960]  And just to make a U turn to get on the highway, they'd rather say that, oh, we were chasing some illegal aliens and they cut through here.
[01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:30.960]  So we had to cut your fence so we could drive our SUVs through.
[01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:33.960]  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:41.960]  When you patent your property, when you accept the patent that is on your land, that's a double whammy for anybody that trespasses.
[01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:45.960]  Number one, you've got a state offense for criminal trespass.
[01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.960]  Two, you have patent infringement.
[01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:53.960]  That's federal.
[01:13:53.960 --> 01:14:04.960]  Now, here in the state of Texas, I don't know if that would go to the federal court because Texas land patents are not through the BLM.
[01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.960]  They are through the GLO, the BL, the acronyms.
[01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:21.960]  They are not through the Bureau of Land Management that being a federal organization versus the Texas State General Land Office.
[01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:28.960]  Reaching out with patent infringement to the federal jurisdiction in Texas may be a far stretch.
[01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:38.960]  But for the other 59 states or 49 states, yeah, that's going to be a federal issue.
[01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:44.960]  Oh, you guys have got me so intrigued.
[01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:49.960]  The bottom line is, Randy, in 1968,
[01:14:49.960 --> 01:15:00.960]  the Administrative Act changed our governments, our state governments from republics to administrative.
[01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:04.960]  That's where you have the overlay of the wax paper.
[01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:13.960]  You can look through the wax paper, which is administrative law, the fourth form of government, and look at the old state.
[01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:25.960]  And when you're an elector, you're associated with that old state, the one that you see underneath the plastic overlay.
[01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:30.960]  Can you send me some documentation on this so I can study it?
[01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:44.960]  I'm the guy that has had computers for years, but always had somebody to run them, and I'm limited on how to...
[01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.960]  Wait, I can help you out with that.
[01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:48.960]  I know.
[01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:54.960]  Just walk out into the street and stop the first 10-year-olds you see.
[01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.960]  They can explain all this stuff to me.
[01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.960]  They can do it for me.
[01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:08.960]  But anyway, they go to team law, and you would just be the apple of their eye.
[01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:10.960]  In fact, they can come.
[01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:18.960]  The creator of team law, the trustee, would probably come on your show and explain everything I'm trying to explain to you,
[01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:25.960]  because I've only discovered this in the last two months.
[01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:29.960]  Well, you sure hit dead on what I wanted to hear.
[01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:36.960]  I will definitely go to team law if we can come up with our own electors.
[01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:38.960]  We can change everything.
[01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:39.960]  Okay, hang on.
[01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:40.960]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:42.960]  We're ready to help Steve Skidmore.
[01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.960]  We will have the law radio, and I'm going to lead Steve right up to the edge and see if I can push him over the cliff.
[01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:55.960]  Not going to happen. 512-646-1984 will get you in line behind David in South Dakota.
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[01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:02.960]  512-646-1984 will get you in line behind David in South Dakota.
[01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.960]  And next we'll go to Shane in New York.
[01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.960]  Dave, do you have anything else for us?
[01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.960]  Yeah, I asked him to fix that monster and put David.
[01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:14.960]  Okay.
[01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:16.960]  Well, David's on there.
[01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:18.960]  It's my bad, I apologize, David.
[01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:24.960]  But David, have we pretty much worn this horse to death?
[01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:26.960]  Not really.
[01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:27.960]  Okay.
[01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:29.960]  We're talking about the half of David.
[01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:35.960]  On the half of David, it's said on the second point of the half of David where you're proving that you're an elector,
[01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:46.960]  it says that you have a patented land patent or deeded property which can be or is in the process of being patented.
[01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:53.960]  So you can still become an elector even if you only have a deeded property.
[01:20:53.960 --> 01:21:04.960]  Yeah, but I would think that if you can show land patent that you own it, again, if you possess property by deed,
[01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:12.960]  you only have an interest in it as where if you have accepted the patent, you now own it.
[01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:18.960]  Only land owners can elect everybody else's votes.
[01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:21.960]  Well, that's right.
[01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:32.960]  And years ago in Travis County at an election, they asked me if everything there was correct and I said no, and I corrected it.
[01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:38.960]  And she said, well, you have to fill out an half of David and become an elector.
[01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:47.960]  I was told at a poll that I had to go to the courthouse and file my paperwork and be an elector, not a voter.
[01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:48.960]  Good.
[01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:53.960]  There is a big difference, folks.
[01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:59.960]  It's the difference between sovereignty and slavery.
[01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:08.960]  Well, I was proclaiming that I was a sovereign and writing my name appropriately and she said, well, you're an elector.
[01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:11.960]  You have to go through the process, go to the courthouse.
[01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:21.960]  They sent me to the courthouse to be, which I didn't follow up on in Travis County, but I did follow up on it when I was out of Texas.
[01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:23.960]  Okay.
[01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:27.960]  Well, good.
[01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:35.960]  Okay, so we've established that you've got to file an affidavit claiming to be an elector and then there you go.
[01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:37.960]  You now elect instead of vote.
[01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:46.960]  And then you send a copy of the notarized affidavit of electorship.
[01:22:46.960 --> 01:23:05.960]  You send a copy of it to each state that we are those original states prior to the administrative act of 1968 when we all became administrative fourth branch of government.
[01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:17.960]  Each state in the United States now has a governor which is one of the original territorial state governors, not the administrative governor.
[01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:18.960]  Okay.
[01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:31.960]  So you send a copy of that notarized statement to that representative governor, which is not the one that everybody thinks is the governor.
[01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:39.960]  Governor, there are actually two. There's one that's administrative and then there's one that's...
[01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:42.960]  It's a difference between de jure and de facto.
[01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:44.960]  Exactly.
[01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:48.960]  Do you know who the administrative governor for Texas is?
[01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:58.960]  I can find it and it's on team law, but Randy, if you will call me after we get off the air, I'll give you some more information. I can't.
[01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:07.960]  I'm going to send me an email at randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:09.960]  Randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:10.960]  Okay.
[01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:12.960]  And I'll call you tomorrow or something.
[01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:14.960]  When time I get off, it's kind of late.
[01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:18.960]  I usually start about four or five in the morning.
[01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:20.960]  I'm a morning person.
[01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.960]  I just put David's number in a group sky chat.
[01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:26.960]  Okay.
[01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:27.960]  Good.
[01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:28.960]  I'll just do it.
[01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:29.960]  There you go.
[01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:30.960]  Okay.
[01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.960]  Dave, you got anything else for us?
[01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:37.960]  No, that'll bring you up to power.
[01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:46.960]  It'll take a while to learn what's on team law, but it'll open your eyes as well.
[01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:47.960]  Certainly will.
[01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.960]  David, thank you very much for calling in tonight.
[01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:55.960]  You're welcome and I hope to hear from both of you again.
[01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.960]  Good deal.
[01:24:58.960 --> 01:24:59.960]  Okay.
[01:24:59.960 --> 01:25:02.960]  Let's go to New York State and talk to Shane.
[01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:03.960]  Hello, Shane.
[01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:04.960]  What do you got for us tonight?
[01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:05.960]  Hey.
[01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:06.960]  Yeah.
[01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:07.960]  Good evening, guys.
[01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:08.960]  How are you doing tonight?
[01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:09.960]  Great.
[01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:10.960]  Okay.
[01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:17.960]  I called about four weeks ago and I called a couple weeks ago after that and I missed
[01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:18.960]  her show.
[01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.960]  That was the last caller I couldn't get in.
[01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:21.960]  That's okay.
[01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:22.960]  Last week was an archive.
[01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:23.960]  Yeah.
[01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:24.960]  That's right.
[01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:25.960]  That was the week before that one.
[01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.960]  But the question I've been trying to find out and Randy might know this is my mother
[01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:35.960]  has a small little commercial loan and they're doing a foreclosure on her.
[01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:41.960]  And, you know, it's a small little commercial place around in a local neighborhood.
[01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:47.960]  And does the commercial loan have to be recorded at the Department of State?
[01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:50.960]  Yeah, it does make any difference.
[01:25:50.960 --> 01:26:00.960]  As all claims against real property, commercial consumer makes no difference.
[01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:09.960]  Chances are they will not have filed a copy of the negotiable instrument but a copy of
[01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:13.960]  the security instrument should be on file with your county recorder's office.
[01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:17.960]  If it's commercial, they probably have a UCC-1 file.
[01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:18.960]  Yes.
[01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:19.960]  No, they don't.
[01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:21.960]  We already did a check on it.
[01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:22.960]  They don't.
[01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:23.960]  Oh.
[01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:25.960]  It's a private loan, though.
[01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:26.960]  It's a private loan.
[01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:28.960]  But they lost the affidavit.
[01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:29.960]  Okay.
[01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:30.960]  Hold on.
[01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:31.960]  They lost.
[01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:32.960]  Hold on.
[01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.960]  A private loan makes no difference.
[01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:36.960]  Right.
[01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:41.960]  In order to perfect a claim against real property.
[01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:45.960]  Let me explain how this, what this is about.
[01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:49.960]  Let's say you want me to come and do some work on your property.
[01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.960]  But you don't have all the money you need to pay me right away.
[01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:58.960]  So you agree to allow me to take a lien against your property.
[01:26:58.960 --> 01:26:59.960]  All right.
[01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:04.960]  So you have mechanic's lien or material mince lien.
[01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:12.960]  And before I do that, I need to make sure that my lien is going to be of any value.
[01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:19.960]  And the way I do that is I go look in the record and see if somebody else already has a lien.
[01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:28.960]  So when I go down and look in the, the county recorder's office, I have a right to trust
[01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.960]  what I see there.
[01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:36.960]  So if I look in the record and I don't see a lien against your property in the record,
[01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:44.960]  then I can feel confident in filing my own lien in the record because first in time is
[01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:46.960]  first in line.
[01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:50.960]  If there's no lien in front of mine, then mine's valid.
[01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:58.960]  So if somebody has a claim against real property and they haven't filed that claim in the public
[01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:05.960]  record where I can see it, then that claim is not enforceable because I have a right
[01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:10.960]  to trust what I see there.
[01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:14.960]  You can't have a claim, not report it.
[01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:21.960]  I file a claim and you come along and say, oh, wait a minute, I had one before you.
[01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:26.960]  And I said, now, wait a minute, I exercised due diligence and I did my research and I
[01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:28.960]  didn't find that claim.
[01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:33.960]  And that's the reason for the county registrar's office.
[01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:36.960]  And think about it.
[01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:48.960]  Without that being very well structured and protected, no person in his right financial
[01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:54.960]  mind would buy property in any country that doesn't have that.
[01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.960]  Because you never know if somebody's going to come out of the blue and take your property
[01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:00.960]  away from you.
[01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:09.960]  But any claim anybody has, if it's not filed in the county recorders office, every state
[01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:20.960]  that I've looked at so far has a statute that reflects 13.001 Texas property code.
[01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:31.960]  And what 13.001 says is any claim against real property, not acknowledged or proven,
[01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:37.960]  acknowledged, notarized, proven, witnessed by two witnesses.
[01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:45.960]  And properly filed in the public record is void as to the holder.
[01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:52.960]  Every state's going to have that, without it, there's no reason to have a county recorder.
[01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:55.960]  Hang on, we'll be right back.
[01:29:55.960 --> 01:30:00.960]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, I forget the number.
[01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:04.960]  Hey soccer fans, what's your home team?
[01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:09.960]  In Italy they care so much they're forcing people to get electronic ID cards to show
[01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:11.960]  which team they support.
[01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.960]  I'm Katherine Albright and I'll be back with the bizarre details.
[01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:50.960]  When the soccer fans cry because of government spies, that's appalling.
[01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.960]  In Italy soccer fans need government permission to attend a game.
[01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:59.960]  The government's requiring electronic ID cards for season ticket holders to control what
[01:30:59.960 --> 01:31:03.960]  games they attend and where they can sit based on which team they support.
[01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:08.960]  Getting a card requires a government ID number, a photo, and a ton of paperwork.
[01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:13.960]  Sports fans are closely monitored by security agents who block stadium entrances and scan
[01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:14.960]  everyone's ID.
[01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:19.960]  Anyone caught misbehaving is banned from attending soccer games for five years.
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[01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:31.960]  I lost my son.
[01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:32.960]  My nephew.
[01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:33.960]  My uncle.
[01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:34.960]  My son.
[01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:35.960]  On September 11, 2000.
[01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.960]  People don't know that a third tower fell on September 11.
[01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:42.960]  World Trade Center 7, a 47-story skyscraper, was not hit by a plane.
[01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:46.960]  Although the official explanation is that fire brought down building 7.
[01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.960]  Over 1200 architects and engineers have looked into the evidence and believed there is more
[01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:52.960]  to the story.
[01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:53.960]  Bring justice to my son.
[01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:54.960]  My uncle.
[01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:55.960]  My nephew.
[01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:56.960]  My son.
[01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:57.960]  Go to building what.org.
[01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:00.960]  Why it fell, why it matters, and what you can do.
[01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:04.960]  After work, I'm so tired that I want to be left alone to sleep.
[01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:06.960]  Hey, listen to me.
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[01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:12.960]  Do you remember that?
[01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:13.960]  Yes.
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[01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:40.760]  You can be your own doctor.
[01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:43.960]  I want to keep you out of the hospital and on pharmaceuticals.
[01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:44.960]  Wow.
[01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:45.960]  Why are you so nice to me?
[01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:46.960]  Because I'm you.
[01:32:46.960 --> 01:33:12.960]  You're out of shape and I need a better looking future.
[01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:38.960]  You're out of shape and I need a better looking future.
[01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:41.960]  You're out of shape and I need a better looking future.
[01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:51.320]  Retąd is free and graffiti...
[01:33:51.320 --> 01:34:00.820]  We'd like to thank Trishews Posse Debrun and Jerry Stevens for their background music.
[01:34:00.820 --> 01:34:01.780]  They do some good work.
[01:34:01.780 --> 01:34:10.700]  Jenny New York, Randy and I got to talking over the break and both of us completely forgot
[01:34:10.700 --> 01:34:17.140]  where we were. Can you bring us back? Yes. Actually, if you guys remember, I called
[01:34:17.140 --> 01:34:23.900]  about four weeks ago and I was up in New York and... Oh, okay. Got it. Commercial.
[01:34:23.900 --> 01:34:30.260]  Bless your heart. Yes, yes, yes. Commercial mortgage. I'm back. How you doing, Randy?
[01:34:30.260 --> 01:34:41.580]  I am good. So you had a question. That's a matter of opinion. Okay. I'm not gonna go there. Have you
[01:34:41.580 --> 01:34:52.060]  looked in the public record? Oh, we have everything. What did you find there? Well, let me just back
[01:34:52.060 --> 01:34:57.020]  up because I do want to tell you something. They did lose, I'm a surrey note, and what they did...
[01:34:57.020 --> 01:35:03.300]  Is there an affidavit of loss of note? They did an affidavit of loss, no, but it's not sign of the
[01:35:03.300 --> 01:35:08.300]  penalty, it's a perjury. Okay. Stop, stop, stop. Wait a minute, wait a minute. This is jumping way
[01:35:08.300 --> 01:35:18.940]  too far ahead. Okay. Who was the original beneficiary on the note? It would have been
[01:35:18.940 --> 01:35:33.180]  the... Okay, hold on. Do you have the note there in front of you? Let me walk down where I'm going.
[01:35:33.180 --> 01:35:43.380]  Yeah. Is the original holder of the note still in business? If they, if they're not still in
[01:35:43.380 --> 01:35:54.100]  business, when did they go out of business? Is there a assignment of the security instrument to a
[01:35:54.100 --> 01:36:04.980]  third party? Was that assignment made after, if the original lender is not in business, was it
[01:36:04.980 --> 01:36:16.180]  made after the original lender went out of business? It's a private lender, and it's private. It's no
[01:36:16.180 --> 01:36:28.700]  difference. Is the private lender still in business? Yes, it's a... Okay. Yes. Wait a minute. Private
[01:36:28.700 --> 01:36:37.100]  lender still... Okay, the original lender is still in business. Who claimed they lost the note? They
[01:36:37.100 --> 01:36:42.140]  did, and you know what's so fascinating about it is they re-recorded the promissory note few
[01:36:42.140 --> 01:36:50.420]  in 2014. They recorded the note? They re-recorded it. Okay. Okay, hang on. Let's make sure we're
[01:36:50.420 --> 01:36:59.620]  we're getting things clear here. Normally, the note is not recorded. Normally, the mortgage is
[01:36:59.620 --> 01:37:07.180]  recorded. Sorry, the most things right. Okay, so it was the mortgage that was recorded, and they
[01:37:07.180 --> 01:37:15.380]  claimed that they lost it. Right. They claimed they lost the note. Okay, no, that's what I'm
[01:37:15.380 --> 01:37:23.980]  trying to clarify. I can't see any reason why they would admit that they lost the note. I can see a
[01:37:23.980 --> 01:37:31.580]  reason why they would admit the mortgage, but this so far it doesn't make sense. You have the
[01:37:31.580 --> 01:37:44.500]  original lender. Did the original lender file the affidavits? Yes, through their attorney that
[01:37:44.500 --> 01:37:51.700]  they hired, yes. Okay. That doesn't make sense. What of the security instrument? Did they lose
[01:37:51.700 --> 01:38:01.700]  that as well, or do they still have it? It's kind of a hodgepodge. It's a rule. Okay. Wait a minute.
[01:38:01.700 --> 01:38:10.260]  Something's wrong here. A piece doesn't fit. I've got a question that might go to that missing
[01:38:10.260 --> 01:38:21.020]  piece. Yes. Did this original lender securitize the mortgage instruments? We don't know, but we
[01:38:21.020 --> 01:38:26.580]  know that he deposited it into his trust because it shows on the. Then there you go. Okay, then it
[01:38:26.580 --> 01:38:33.660]  was securitized. That's where it was lost. The original lender, chances are, if they sold it
[01:38:33.660 --> 01:38:43.820]  into a securities pool, chances are that they no longer have an interest in it. They sold it. If I
[01:38:43.820 --> 01:38:52.180]  sell you my car, can I walk into your driveway and just drive off with that car? Absolutely not.
[01:38:52.180 --> 01:39:05.420]  That would be grand theft auto. Right. Okay. If I lend you a purport to lend you some money to
[01:39:05.420 --> 01:39:15.420]  buy a house, you sign over to me a promissory note and a security instrument attaching the
[01:39:15.420 --> 01:39:24.540]  property as collateral on the note and grant me the authority to take that property away
[01:39:24.540 --> 01:39:31.740]  from you in the event of default. I sell all that. Can I come back later and say, hey,
[01:39:31.740 --> 01:39:42.300]  you've defaulted. Give me your house. No. No. Oops. Fatal flaw. Wait a minute. There's a
[01:39:42.300 --> 01:39:55.420]  presumption here. Okay. And there's a presumption that they sold, that they transfer, that the
[01:39:55.420 --> 01:40:04.580]  security instrument transferred to someone else. And this raises a question. If the original
[01:40:04.580 --> 01:40:12.820]  lender is still in business, is there an assignment to a third party of the security instrument filed
[01:40:12.820 --> 01:40:21.060]  in the record? The answer is no. No. I just speak to them. So what would motivate the original
[01:40:21.060 --> 01:40:29.740]  lender to admit that they lost their security instrument? That doesn't make sense. Or their note.
[01:40:29.740 --> 01:40:41.620]  No. No. That was the question. Okay. Shane, when you were speaking earlier saying note,
[01:40:41.620 --> 01:40:50.220]  were you actually referring to security instrument? No. I'm sorry. I meant the promissory note.
[01:40:50.220 --> 01:40:58.060]  That's what I was saying. Yes. And they're saying they lost the promissory note. Right.
[01:40:58.060 --> 01:41:02.180]  Because we did a validation of that immediately before the foreclosure proceeding started
[01:41:02.180 --> 01:41:06.660]  and they came back. Oh, right. That's the question. That's why I had the question. Why
[01:41:06.660 --> 01:41:11.980]  in the heck would they do that? And that's because you asked for validation. Yes. We
[01:41:11.980 --> 01:41:16.380]  did a validation. What we did is we did like a 14-page document and we recorded the county
[01:41:16.380 --> 01:41:20.740]  courthouse and sent it to the attorney register mail before the foreclosure proceeding even
[01:41:20.740 --> 01:41:30.540]  began and he ignored it. Not your problem, his problem. Okay. Now, okay. That answers
[01:41:30.540 --> 01:41:35.860]  my question as to why they would make that admission. So they have admitted that they
[01:41:35.860 --> 01:41:46.740]  lost the original instrument. Guys, you got a problem. Have you had a securities analysis
[01:41:46.740 --> 01:42:00.820]  done or a chain of title done to determine if the instrument has been negotiated, sold,
[01:42:00.820 --> 01:42:09.540]  transferred or in any way adulterated? No, but we want to, but we don't know who adulterated.
[01:42:09.540 --> 01:42:17.340]  I'll give you a tip. I think I know a guy. Yeah. He's kind of ugly and a little bit
[01:42:17.340 --> 01:42:23.300]  fat. Okay. I shouldn't have said that. Don't you dare tell Joe I said that. I won't tell
[01:42:23.300 --> 01:42:32.580]  you. Okay. I have went through a few who do this kind of thing and they send me samples
[01:42:32.580 --> 01:42:39.060]  and I call them back and I say, don't send me a bunch of vague and general crapola. Never
[01:42:39.060 --> 01:42:46.740]  make a statement of law out of your own mouth, make it out of the mouth of the courts. I
[01:42:46.740 --> 01:42:57.820]  only have one person who ever gave me a document that I was comfortable in using. Who was that,
[01:42:57.820 --> 01:42:58.820]  Steve?
[01:42:58.820 --> 01:43:10.780]  Joseph R. Esquivel. You got a pencil handy, Shane? I do not. Just send me an email and
[01:43:10.780 --> 01:43:17.220]  I will forward it to him and he'll get back to you. He's the only guy. Okay. Just for
[01:43:17.220 --> 01:43:23.940]  the record, I don't have anything to do with what Joe does. Correct. I don't get any commission
[01:43:23.940 --> 01:43:30.500]  or anything from it. I only recommend him is because he takes care of the people I send
[01:43:30.500 --> 01:43:37.740]  to him. He gives them good product. These guys claim they lost the note. What Joe will
[01:43:37.740 --> 01:43:45.260]  be able to show you is where the note really went and that it's not lost and you can hammer
[01:43:45.260 --> 01:43:50.300]  them for the fraudulent documentation. Randy, Calvin, Steve, Skidmore, Rudder, Brown Radio.
[01:43:50.300 --> 01:44:00.420]  I call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back. Stay there, Shane. Thanks.
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[01:46:21.660 --> 01:46:46.060]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, please give more rule of law radio in the top of the
[01:46:46.060 --> 01:46:54.020]  sea, in New York. Say, where were we? We are having way too much fun on thebecca.
[01:46:54.020 --> 01:46:58.560]  Well, let me, let me bust in there, Shane, I hope you have time over the break to go
[01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:04.660]  get a pencil pen, piece of paper, rusty nail poke a hole in any finger. Write this down
[01:47:04.660 --> 01:47:26.180]  in blood if you have to. 1-800. I'm sorry. Scratch. Take two. 1-888-492-3741. 888-492-3741.
[01:47:26.180 --> 01:47:34.420]  We'll put you in touch with Mortgage Compliance Investigators. Let me tell you a little something
[01:47:34.420 --> 01:47:46.180]  I learned about these mortgage audits. No such thing. Audit is an accounting term. Strictly
[01:47:46.180 --> 01:47:52.460]  accounting. So if you're out there on the internet looking for a mortgage audit, you're
[01:47:52.460 --> 01:47:59.100]  looking for something that doesn't exist. However, if you want to talk about competent
[01:47:59.100 --> 01:48:10.980]  evidence, what is competent evidence? If you are a third party looking into a situation
[01:48:10.980 --> 01:48:19.060]  for a client, customer, call them what you will, and you draft a report that is intended
[01:48:19.060 --> 01:48:28.780]  to be used in a court of law, 49 states or 42 states in this union, 42 states have licensing
[01:48:28.780 --> 01:48:36.100]  requirements for that. Randy is very familiar with the statute here in Texas that requires
[01:48:36.100 --> 01:48:46.940]  licenses. Don't go there for this. Randy, you're the reason I learned about this. I only spent
[01:48:46.940 --> 01:48:55.420]  29, 27 days in jail. Okay? That's okay. That's in the past. It's spilt milk. Let's not cry
[01:48:55.420 --> 01:49:04.420]  over it. But 42 states in this union require a license for a private investigator to do
[01:49:04.420 --> 01:49:12.460]  that kind of work. Guess what Joe and his business partner have? Private investigator
[01:49:12.460 --> 01:49:21.340]  licenses. MCI is a licensed private investigation company. Therefore, they are producing competent
[01:49:21.340 --> 01:49:29.660]  evidence, evidence that can be entered into the court competently. That means that it
[01:49:29.660 --> 01:49:37.500]  will stand the test of competence. It can be admitted as evidence. Joe is one of the
[01:49:37.500 --> 01:49:46.340]  only people that I know. Joe is the only guy, besides Damien, the guy, Joe's business partner,
[01:49:46.340 --> 01:49:54.540]  who possess the authority granted by a state issued license to provide this type of work
[01:49:54.540 --> 01:50:03.420]  to their clients. So, if you're needing a competent chain of title investigation or analysis,
[01:50:03.420 --> 01:50:16.140]  dial 888-491-3741 and do business with these people. They will get you what you need.
[01:50:16.140 --> 01:50:22.060]  And tell them you heard about it on Roodleball Radio. Absolutely. And he will help support
[01:50:22.060 --> 01:50:34.580]  the network. Absolutely. And just for the record, Steve and I are not the network. No,
[01:50:34.580 --> 01:50:41.300]  we are not the network. Yeah, we donate our time to the network. We put quite a bit of
[01:50:41.300 --> 01:50:45.860]  money into the network. We help support the network. That's why we encourage people to
[01:50:45.860 --> 01:50:54.780]  support our sponsors to help us. We not only do these shows free from our side, but we
[01:50:54.780 --> 01:51:02.980]  also contribute to keep the network on the air with our volunteer broadcasters. So, we
[01:51:02.980 --> 01:51:11.620]  have no interest in MCI. MCI has no interest in us or Roodleball Radio or Logos Radio.
[01:51:11.620 --> 01:51:16.500]  Because I have worked for this company. I believe in what they're doing. I've been in
[01:51:16.500 --> 01:51:22.020]  this industry for years. And these are the only guys that can get you evidence that will
[01:51:22.020 --> 01:51:29.780]  stand up in court. And if you need to make arrangements for Mr. Esquivel to appear in
[01:51:29.780 --> 01:51:37.060]  your case as an expert witness, that can also be arranged at, I'm sure, an additional cost.
[01:51:37.060 --> 01:51:45.900]  Right. It's well worth it. Right. Okay. I just wanted to, yeah, thanks a lot. I just
[01:51:45.900 --> 01:51:51.460]  had one more question. By the way, Sidenote Randy, Randy, I learned about you along several
[01:51:51.460 --> 01:51:55.700]  years ago when I caught you on the Alex Jones show. And ever since then, I've been listening
[01:51:55.700 --> 01:51:59.820]  to you off and on for several years after. So, that's how I found out about you. So,
[01:51:59.820 --> 01:52:07.740]  I just wanted to let you know. Thanks. First, yeah, you have some amazing stories. And I
[01:52:07.740 --> 01:52:13.180]  really like your passion, by the way. The only last question I had was the assignment
[01:52:13.180 --> 01:52:17.460]  of debt. By the way, it was recorded three years after the note was even signed. Is
[01:52:17.460 --> 01:52:25.180]  that even, that sounds right? No, it's valid. Unless you're in Pennsylvania, there's special
[01:52:25.180 --> 01:52:38.140]  documents. What the Uniform Commercial Code does is grant the lender a 21-day grace period.
[01:52:38.140 --> 01:52:48.780]  From the day of closing, he's protected for 21 days. If he doesn't get the claim filed
[01:52:48.780 --> 01:52:54.860]  in the record within that time period and somebody else files the claim, his was stepped
[01:52:54.860 --> 01:53:06.980]  before that claim. After the 21st day, if he doesn't file and somebody files a lien
[01:53:06.980 --> 01:53:13.980]  in that time period, their lien stands before his. Do a Google search or an internet search
[01:53:13.980 --> 01:53:22.300]  for UCC perfection of security interest? Yeah. Okay. Just because he didn't file it
[01:53:22.300 --> 01:53:28.860]  doesn't mean it's not valid. What it means is, is that if I go look in the record and
[01:53:28.860 --> 01:53:37.260]  I don't see it and I file a lien in the record, then mine stands in front of theirs. If I'm
[01:53:37.260 --> 01:53:44.740]  beyond the 21-day time period. Right. So it doesn't invalidate his claim. He just runs
[01:53:44.740 --> 01:53:56.940]  the risk of being second fiddle. Does that make sense? Yep. Okay. We got one more caller.
[01:53:56.940 --> 01:54:01.940]  If we're caught up with you, I'd like to give the one more caller at least time to raise
[01:54:01.940 --> 01:54:11.380]  his question. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Shane. Barry in Texas. You got four minutes. What
[01:54:11.380 --> 01:54:18.260]  you got? Hey, brothers, I've been listening to you guys all day, man. Good job. I am excited
[01:54:18.260 --> 01:54:24.860]  to see somebody bringing this stuff to light. Thank you. The question is, I am from Florida.
[01:54:24.860 --> 01:54:30.900]  I'm actually sitting in the parking lot of my hotel over here in Austin, Texas. Welcome
[01:54:30.900 --> 01:54:38.300]  to Austin. Yeah. Yeah. We've been here before. We love it. And I'm from Florida. I'm thinking
[01:54:38.300 --> 01:54:45.500]  seriously about moving to Texas over East Texas area. And I really found it fascinating
[01:54:45.500 --> 01:54:54.900]  your conversation about ownership by deed or ownership by patent. Possession by deed.
[01:54:54.900 --> 01:55:03.100]  Okay. Possession and ownership being the difference. Go ahead. Okay. You know that Jesus was from
[01:55:03.100 --> 01:55:18.660]  East Texas. Randy. Yeah, Palestine. Palestine. Just ignore him, Barry. What you got, brother?
[01:55:18.660 --> 01:55:27.180]  It's getting late, man, right? It is. So, you know, being from Florida when we buy property,
[01:55:27.180 --> 01:55:32.780]  we own everything in it above it, below it. We don't have any mineral rights for the most
[01:55:32.780 --> 01:55:40.420]  part. What I'm finding as being a potential purchaser of several acres is that there's
[01:55:40.420 --> 01:55:48.180]  somebody before me that owns as possession of mineral rights. Do they have patent? If
[01:55:48.180 --> 01:55:55.900]  they do not, you can take it away from them. That was my question. So, there you go. So,
[01:55:55.900 --> 01:56:03.420]  that was my question. So, if I go buy this property, I can go file for a land patent.
[01:56:03.420 --> 01:56:09.940]  And I can, if he hasn't filed for it, even though he may hold supposedly mineral rights,
[01:56:09.940 --> 01:56:15.060]  I can trump his mineral rights and I can own everything from the center over there if I
[01:56:15.060 --> 01:56:28.780]  want to. Outer space. Outer space. Interesting. So, you like that, huh? Yeah, man. That just
[01:56:28.780 --> 01:56:39.060]  like blew the top off my head there. That's pretty interesting. Yes, sir. So, how do I
[01:56:39.060 --> 01:56:47.020]  find out if they truly indeed have a patent of land? You go look in the property records.
[01:56:47.020 --> 01:56:53.460]  That's what the property records are for. So, I'll sort of do that. Okay, hold on. Hold
[01:56:53.460 --> 01:57:00.260]  on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Property records. Do you mean the county recorders office or
[01:57:00.260 --> 01:57:07.300]  the general land office? I was just getting to that. Okay. The GLO, general land office
[01:57:07.300 --> 01:57:15.740]  here in Texas, does not hold recent records. They archive historical records. Historical
[01:57:15.740 --> 01:57:21.660]  records going back to the Republic of Texas. Keep in mind that the Republic of Texas is
[01:57:21.660 --> 01:57:30.340]  still viable. It is still recognized. If you don't think so, go read Rule 53 of the Texas
[01:57:30.340 --> 01:57:37.020]  Rules of Civil Procedure. Since you're here in Austin, go down to the Capitol Building.
[01:57:37.020 --> 01:57:45.220]  You'll see it there on the floor in the rotunda. It is still recognized. So, you've got a choice.
[01:57:45.220 --> 01:57:50.860]  You can either get a new patent issued by the state of Texas in where you will not have
[01:57:50.860 --> 01:57:55.180]  water or mineral rights, or you can accept the patent that's already there and been
[01:57:55.180 --> 01:58:03.980]  sitting there since the 1800s. I like that. I have history. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Folks,
[01:58:03.980 --> 01:58:08.980]  we are out of time. Barry, thank you very much for calling in and welcome to Texas. Go
[01:58:08.980 --> 01:58:16.740]  by our state Capitol and check out what I'm saying. You'll see it for yourself. What's
[01:58:16.740 --> 01:58:27.500]  the code you have in your Republic of Texas? What was that code? Rule 53 of the Texas Rules
[01:58:27.500 --> 01:58:35.940]  of Civil Procedure. Rule 53. Rule 53. Yes, sir. Awesome. Keep up the good work, guys.
[01:58:35.940 --> 01:58:41.860]  Live long. Live the Republic. Thank you, Barry, for calling in. Thank you to all of our listeners.
[01:58:41.860 --> 01:58:48.100]  Folks, we will be back next Friday at 8 central until then. Have a wonderful weekend and enjoy
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