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[00:15.840 --> 00:20.600]  This is Justin Arman with your Liberty Beat for June 27, 2014.
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[00:54.240 --> 00:55.480]  And now the news.
[00:55.480 --> 00:59.160]  Texans for Accountable Governments will be holding their monthly meeting at Sherlock's
[00:59.160 --> 01:00.520]  in Austin, Texas.
[01:00.520 --> 01:03.920]  On the agenda is Ed Heimlich speaking about sovereign immunity.
[01:03.920 --> 01:08.120]  Dana Ann's will be discussing plans to bring attention to Liberty candidate Laura Presley,
[01:08.120 --> 01:10.200]  who's running for Austin City Council.
[01:10.200 --> 01:14.560]  Cheyenne from Texas Normal will be speaking about strategic plans for marijuana policy
[01:14.560 --> 01:18.760]  reform and Rachel Kania will talk about what it takes to get elected.
[01:18.760 --> 01:23.840]  Justin Delosh will be addressing Second Amendment rights and more reasonable self-defense policy
[01:23.840 --> 01:25.400]  for Texans.
[01:25.400 --> 01:28.760]  Persons for Accountable Government will be forming committees around these issues, which
[01:28.760 --> 01:31.480]  will be led by the best and brightest activists.
[01:31.480 --> 01:35.800]  Come to the meeting and get involved Monday, June 30th at Sherlock's Pub.
[01:35.800 --> 01:39.680]  More information at tagtexas.org, that's tagtexas.org.
[01:39.680 --> 01:44.600]  Big news for Texas.
[01:44.600 --> 01:49.040]  On Thursday, Austin City Council voted to approve medical marijuana.
[01:49.040 --> 01:54.120]  The resolution, which was sponsored by Councilmen Bill Spellman and Mike Martinez, supports
[01:54.120 --> 01:57.560]  legislation to legalize the use of medical marijuana.
[01:57.560 --> 02:01.240]  State Representative Elliot Mashtatt tried for more than a decade without success to
[02:01.240 --> 02:05.200]  pass a state law regarding patients using medical pot.
[02:05.200 --> 02:08.280]  Marijuana is still illegal under state and federal laws.
[02:08.280 --> 02:12.520]  The Marijuana Policy Project, the same group responsible for helping Colorado pass its
[02:12.520 --> 02:20.880]  recreational pot laws, has set up shop in Austin hoping to achieve legalization by 2019.
[02:20.880 --> 02:25.640]  A report by Bloomberg reveals that hospitals are using detailed consumer data to create
[02:25.640 --> 02:30.880]  profiles on current and even potential patients to identify those most likely to get sick.
[02:30.880 --> 02:35.520]  The information is being provided by data brokers, public records, and credit card transactions
[02:35.520 --> 02:40.320]  that detail where a person shops, eats, what they smoke, and much more.
[02:40.320 --> 02:44.880]  The largest hospital chain in the Carolinas is plugging data for two million people in
[02:44.880 --> 02:49.200]  algorithms designed to identify high-risk patients.
[02:49.200 --> 02:54.120]  Report for this program comes from Khabib Avz, now with two locations in Austin at 500 East
[02:54.120 --> 02:57.640]  Benwhite Boulevard and 2828 Rio Grande Boulevard.
[02:57.640 --> 03:11.160]  This is Justin Arman reporting with the Liberty Bead.
[03:11.160 --> 03:26.600]  Well, I received my remedy today, came in the box just like we say, I accepted for value
[03:26.600 --> 03:27.600]  right away.
[03:27.600 --> 03:37.480]  It's not sooner, not later, we are originators, and the clockways seem to get straighter every
[03:37.480 --> 03:47.040]  day, and I can take anything that belongs to me, and put it to good use, but I was
[03:47.040 --> 03:52.440]  good for the gender, don't know what to do.
[03:52.440 --> 03:54.560]  Okay, we are back.
[03:54.560 --> 03:55.560]  We are.
[03:55.560 --> 03:57.040]  Oh, Joe's not.
[03:57.040 --> 03:58.040]  Joe's left building.
[03:58.040 --> 03:59.040]  Okay.
[03:59.040 --> 04:02.240]  You want to take Francis, Steve?
[04:02.240 --> 04:03.240]  Sure.
[04:03.240 --> 04:04.240]  Sure.
[04:04.240 --> 04:08.280]  Before we go to Francis, I want to say Joe's leaving tonight because he's got to get ready
[04:08.280 --> 04:09.560]  for a CLE class.
[04:09.560 --> 04:19.760]  There's about 20 odd foreclosure defense attorneys here that will be taking lessons from Joe Esquivel
[04:19.760 --> 04:26.080]  tomorrow, so let's wish him luck, and wish luck to these attorneys out there that maybe
[04:26.080 --> 04:30.720]  some of this common sense will soak through their skulls and they can better represent
[04:30.720 --> 04:33.760]  their clients in court.
[04:33.760 --> 04:37.480]  We did caution Joe to make sure he sold his pocket shut.
[04:37.480 --> 04:41.840]  Yes, or at least Velcro.
[04:41.840 --> 04:45.760]  With no further ado, we're going to go to Francis in Colorado, and I know you've been
[04:45.760 --> 04:47.640]  up to no good, Francis.
[04:47.640 --> 04:51.320]  Oh, no, I've been very good.
[04:51.320 --> 04:52.880]  Oh, have you?
[04:52.880 --> 04:53.880]  Pray tell.
[04:53.880 --> 04:59.040]  Well, I have been very busy, and I haven't had time to get into trouble, is the truth.
[04:59.040 --> 05:00.040]  Oh.
[05:00.040 --> 05:02.880]  Here's my, I have two questions, maybe three.
[05:02.880 --> 05:10.400]  So, this week, Randy did a case for me wrongful foreclosure, and we have one person, the notary.
[05:10.400 --> 05:15.640]  Of course, it wasn't properly notarized and all of that, so we called her out in the case
[05:15.640 --> 05:26.120]  for it, and she was processed, served 20, that's two zero months ago, and I filed a no
[05:26.120 --> 05:33.880]  answer default, you know, for no answer default judgment and declaratory judgment, and I was
[05:33.880 --> 05:34.880]  denied.
[05:34.880 --> 05:35.880]  Really?
[05:35.880 --> 05:36.880]  Yes.
[05:36.880 --> 05:43.080]  Did you, did you get a finding of facts and conclusions as to why that was denied?
[05:43.080 --> 05:46.440]  That would be my first thing, so should I just file that petition?
[05:46.440 --> 05:47.440]  Certainly.
[05:47.440 --> 05:55.880]  The findings of facts, okay, and we did, did the denial contain a memorandum?
[05:55.880 --> 05:56.880]  No, sir.
[05:56.880 --> 06:02.760]  So, the finding of facts and conclusions is appropriate.
[06:02.760 --> 06:09.520]  The only way you can effectively appeal your case is on writ of error, so you need to know
[06:09.520 --> 06:15.680]  the facts and law on which the judge made the ruling, otherwise, you denied your right
[06:15.680 --> 06:16.680]  to appeal.
[06:16.680 --> 06:17.680]  Okay.
[06:17.680 --> 06:22.680]  Okay, well, and I had already filed an appeal, and it had been dismissed, not with or without
[06:22.680 --> 06:26.080]  prejudice because everyone hadn't been dismissed.
[06:26.080 --> 06:32.160]  Well, if it was not, if it did not say with prejudice, then it is assumed or presumed to
[06:32.160 --> 06:33.160]  be dismissed without.
[06:33.160 --> 06:36.160]  Okay, if it wasn't really dismissed, it was abated.
[06:36.160 --> 06:40.960]  It shouldn't have been abated, not dismissed, abated as untimely.
[06:40.960 --> 06:41.960]  Okay.
[06:41.960 --> 06:43.760]  All right, well, I will do my petition.
[06:43.760 --> 06:51.920]  Okay, my next question is, okay, so my next deal is I have my quiet title case, and so
[06:51.920 --> 06:59.760]  they dismissed that one, and they ruled in favor of the attorneys alleging to work for
[06:59.760 --> 07:03.760]  the lender who's evidently risen from the dead and hired them.
[07:03.760 --> 07:09.040]  And I had filed a motion to compel agency, and guess what, it didn't get in the record.
[07:09.040 --> 07:15.640]  So, I filed in all of my documentation about when they signed for it and all of that, and
[07:15.640 --> 07:22.320]  filed it back into the record, and then filed my appeal on the dismissal, and then filed
[07:22.320 --> 07:27.120]  a remand to, back to the district court for ruling on agency.
[07:27.120 --> 07:28.120]  Is that proper?
[07:28.120 --> 07:30.120]  Can I do that right?
[07:30.120 --> 07:33.640]  Yeah, so far so good.
[07:33.640 --> 07:34.640]  Sounds right to me.
[07:34.640 --> 07:35.640]  All right.
[07:35.640 --> 07:36.640]  Well, and now you just have to wait.
[07:36.640 --> 07:43.360]  Okay, now, Mr. Randy, I have just finished my very first ever criminal complaint.
[07:43.360 --> 07:50.840]  It's only 99 pages long, and I only have 28 people to file it against, but I have this
[07:50.840 --> 07:51.840]  question.
[07:51.840 --> 07:57.520]  Should I name institutions or only people?
[07:57.520 --> 07:59.120]  It depends.
[07:59.120 --> 08:04.880]  If you don't know the name of it, yeah, a complaint is always against a person.
[08:04.880 --> 08:05.880]  Okay.
[08:05.880 --> 08:17.640]  Okay, so if it is a institution, you don't necessarily know who the actor is.
[08:17.640 --> 08:19.960]  Are these based on documents?
[08:19.960 --> 08:28.880]  Yes, sir, I, well, it's the elder abuse case with my mother-in-law, and so I have a name
[08:28.880 --> 08:33.440]  with every institution, so I can delete the institutions.
[08:33.440 --> 08:36.320]  That's a good question.
[08:36.320 --> 08:41.040]  I'm not sure if you can file a criminal complaint against an institution.
[08:41.040 --> 08:47.320]  I wouldn't think you can, because you'd have to have somebody to throw in jail.
[08:47.320 --> 08:49.720]  You can't throw the institution in jail.
[08:49.720 --> 08:58.480]  Yeah, they're legal fictions, so whoever responded yet superior for the institution
[08:58.480 --> 09:05.880]  is, is who you'd probably name, if there is a more appropriate person, then responding
[09:05.880 --> 09:11.120]  yet superior would have to throw that person under your bus.
[09:11.120 --> 09:12.120]  Okay.
[09:12.120 --> 09:15.800]  So that's who I would name.
[09:15.800 --> 09:25.800]  When you do a criminal complaint, one complaint, one person, one violation per complaint, don't
[09:25.800 --> 09:28.800]  stack them in there.
[09:28.800 --> 09:34.240]  Okay, well, then I've got to redo them, because I've got multiple violations.
[09:34.240 --> 09:36.000]  This starts like two years ago.
[09:36.000 --> 09:41.080]  Okay, this is how, this is how I get around that as a problem.
[09:41.080 --> 09:44.080]  You make up your statement of facts.
[09:44.080 --> 09:52.480]  If you'll go on to jurisimprudence.com and look at the Cherokee County Complaints, there's
[09:52.480 --> 09:55.280]  a link to it right there on the top.
[09:55.280 --> 09:56.280]  Okay.
[09:56.280 --> 10:01.520]  I make up this statement of facts, and as I go down the statement of facts, I say they
[10:01.520 --> 10:06.800]  did this, they did that, they did the other, and violation of this statute.
[10:06.800 --> 10:12.880]  Then I go back and take the section out, like I started out with the prosecuting attorney.
[10:12.880 --> 10:16.480]  He did this, and then I walked down the codes he violated.
[10:16.480 --> 10:21.240]  I just went and captured that section out, dropped it in the complaint for the first
[10:21.240 --> 10:30.880]  accusation, and I, Ronald Kelton, have reason to believe and do believe based on the following.
[10:30.880 --> 10:38.440]  I dropped that section in there, and then the ending says, therefore, on or before the
[10:38.440 --> 10:45.880]  filing of this, on or before the filing of this case, you put in a date, so-and-so violated
[10:45.880 --> 10:53.240]  certain statute in violation, did so-and-so in violation of certain statute.
[10:53.240 --> 11:02.080]  And if the statement involves more than one person, then I make up the statement, and
[11:02.080 --> 11:10.560]  I use the same section, like I just filed some recently, where I made up the complaint,
[11:10.560 --> 11:15.600]  and it told what everybody did, and then I just changed the bottom of it, tampering
[11:15.600 --> 11:21.120]  with the witness, obstruction of justice, those three others.
[11:21.120 --> 11:25.840]  All I did was change the statute at the bottom.
[11:25.840 --> 11:31.040]  That way you don't have to write each one of these separate, and the grand jury or whoever
[11:31.040 --> 11:37.560]  will read each complaint, and they read this statement until they get it memorized.
[11:37.560 --> 11:39.880]  Does that make sense?
[11:39.880 --> 11:40.880]  Yes, sir.
[11:40.880 --> 11:48.400]  Now, go look at that and see how I did that, and then when you construct your statement,
[11:48.400 --> 11:55.120]  you'll construct your statement such that you make one criminal accusation after the
[11:55.120 --> 11:57.440]  other.
[11:57.440 --> 12:02.160]  If there's more than one person involved in one of the criminal accusations, you include
[12:02.160 --> 12:08.360]  all the names into the statement, and you just grab that section, drop it in the complaint.
[12:08.360 --> 12:13.760]  Now you have a basic criminal complaint for each person who's named in there, but you
[12:13.760 --> 12:18.000]  make a separate document, a separate complaint document for each one.
[12:18.000 --> 12:22.200]  So you put multiple parties, but not multiple issues?
[12:22.200 --> 12:29.360]  Well, no, I'll do the exact same complaint.
[12:29.360 --> 12:31.480]  I just changed the name at the bottom.
[12:31.480 --> 12:32.480]  Got you.
[12:32.480 --> 12:33.880]  The name and the statute.
[12:33.880 --> 12:34.880]  Yes.
[12:34.880 --> 12:39.720]  First, I'll take tampering with the witness, I got three guys that did this.
[12:39.720 --> 12:45.840]  So I made up the statement for the first guy, and it had what all of them did in there.
[12:45.840 --> 12:49.880]  And then I just changed the name to the second guy, made another one, third guy, made another
[12:49.880 --> 12:50.880]  one.
[12:50.880 --> 12:57.040]  And then I went to obstruction of justice, and put made one for each, all three of them.
[12:57.040 --> 13:01.320]  So the complaints are exactly the same.
[13:01.320 --> 13:06.200]  I just changed the name and the statute, that makes it a whole lot easier to crank through
[13:06.200 --> 13:07.200]  these things.
[13:07.200 --> 13:10.000]  The names have been changed to prosecute the guilty.
[13:10.000 --> 13:11.000]  Exactly.
[13:11.000 --> 13:12.000]  Okay.
[13:12.000 --> 13:16.960]  Well, now, if there's been multiple incidences of witness tampering, do I...
[13:16.960 --> 13:19.680]  Each one is a separate offense.
[13:19.680 --> 13:23.680]  Each one is a separate offense.
[13:23.680 --> 13:24.680]  Yes.
[13:24.680 --> 13:25.680]  Exactly.
[13:25.680 --> 13:27.680]  Holy smokes.
[13:27.680 --> 13:28.680]  Yes.
[13:28.680 --> 13:36.120]  Now, you could go in and say that, let's say, tampering with a witness.
[13:36.120 --> 13:38.800]  You could put four counts in there.
[13:38.800 --> 13:48.800]  But if they kick out your, if they deny your remedy in that one, it all goes out the window.
[13:48.800 --> 13:49.800]  Okay.
[13:49.800 --> 13:50.800]  Okay.
[13:50.800 --> 13:51.800]  I'll put it now.
[13:51.800 --> 13:58.640]  But now, if you make separate complaints, they've got to dismiss each one, one by one.
[13:58.640 --> 14:05.040]  In other words, they can get rid of all of them at once or they can get rid of all of
[14:05.040 --> 14:06.200]  them one at a time.
[14:06.200 --> 14:11.000]  I would rather they get rid of them one at a time because that way I can go back and
[14:11.000 --> 14:13.360]  re-question each issue.
[14:13.360 --> 14:14.360]  Okay.
[14:14.360 --> 14:17.520]  I got it.
[14:17.520 --> 14:18.520]  I got it.
[14:18.520 --> 14:21.800]  Well, that's okay because I have to, I don't want to mail it before we get up there and
[14:21.800 --> 14:28.320]  try to get an affidavit signed by my mother-in-law that she's, and we don't want this to be
[14:28.320 --> 14:29.320]  up there.
[14:29.320 --> 14:34.640]  We're just about ready to go to federal court.
[14:34.640 --> 14:38.720]  Is this affidavit to be used in all of these complaints?
[14:38.720 --> 14:41.240]  Oh, no.
[14:41.240 --> 14:44.360]  I don't think, well, you know, we might use it in the complaint.
[14:44.360 --> 14:46.840]  I'll have to go back and look since I'm going to do the right thing.
[14:46.840 --> 14:52.160]  If, okay, if it is, then you're going to have to have duplicate affidavits because each
[14:52.160 --> 14:56.320]  one of these complaints is going to require an original signature on the affidavits.
[14:56.320 --> 14:59.600]  We won't be able to do that then because she's 87 years old and-
[14:59.600 --> 15:05.320]  Oh, no, no, no, no, wait, you can file a whole stack of complaints.
[15:05.320 --> 15:06.720]  With one affidavit?
[15:06.720 --> 15:07.720]  With one affidavit.
[15:07.720 --> 15:08.720]  Yeah.
[15:08.720 --> 15:09.720]  Oh, okay.
[15:09.720 --> 15:10.720]  Okay.
[15:10.720 --> 15:11.720]  Okay.
[15:11.720 --> 15:12.720]  Yeah.
[15:12.720 --> 15:14.760]  I thought you had to have one for each complaint.
[15:14.760 --> 15:25.040]  For that one in Cherokee County, I had 32 complaints and one affidavit.
[15:25.040 --> 15:32.240]  But each of the complaints, portions of the affidavit were extracted and dropped into
[15:32.240 --> 15:34.120]  the complaints.
[15:34.120 --> 15:37.720]  So you could take the complaint and compare it to the affidavit.
[15:37.720 --> 15:39.520]  That worked out really well.
[15:39.520 --> 15:42.280]  It was still a couple hundred pages.
[15:42.280 --> 15:44.440]  It was a 50-page complaint.
[15:44.440 --> 15:54.520]  So I suggest you write the statement of facts kind of like a novel where you walk down in
[15:54.520 --> 16:00.800]  logical order, kind of give them the order of how things happened.
[16:00.800 --> 16:05.040]  That way they go through the affidavit and then when they look at the complaint, then
[16:05.040 --> 16:11.120]  they'll have referential index for where this lies in the overall scheme of things.
[16:11.120 --> 16:12.120]  Excellent.
[16:12.120 --> 16:17.720]  And since the wording is the same, they'll remember where they actually went.
[16:17.720 --> 16:18.720]  Okay.
[16:18.720 --> 16:22.080]  So I can- can I do- all right.
[16:22.080 --> 16:23.080]  I'm a little bit confused.
[16:23.080 --> 16:24.960]  Okay, I've got my timeline.
[16:24.960 --> 16:27.200]  I've got the whole sequence of events.
[16:27.200 --> 16:29.240]  I've got all of that done.
[16:29.240 --> 16:30.720]  That's your facts.
[16:30.720 --> 16:31.720]  That's your affidavit.
[16:31.720 --> 16:34.320]  That's my affidavit of facts.
[16:34.320 --> 16:39.240]  And in the criminal complaints, I do separate- okay, I'm going to work up on jurisprudence.
[16:39.240 --> 16:40.240]  Jurisimprudence.
[16:40.240 --> 16:41.240]  You said jurisprudence.
[16:41.240 --> 16:42.240]  Wonderful.
[16:42.240 --> 16:43.240]  Okay.
[16:43.240 --> 16:44.240]  Hang on there.
[16:44.240 --> 16:45.240]  Go into break.
[16:45.240 --> 16:47.640]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Joe Esquivel hit the road.
[16:47.640 --> 16:50.120]  We're going to hit the road.
[16:50.120 --> 16:51.120]  Go to break.
[16:51.120 --> 16:52.120]  Now give us a call.
[16:52.120 --> 16:54.120]  We're going to keep the phones up all night.
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[19:31.880 --> 19:48.920]  Hello, Michael.
[19:48.920 --> 19:53.480]  You take it, Randy.
[19:53.480 --> 19:55.480]  I thought you were not going to do it.
[19:55.480 --> 19:56.480]  Go ahead.
[19:56.480 --> 19:59.840]  We're trying to recover from that cliff.
[19:59.840 --> 20:06.520]  We all marched off the cliff like a bunch of lemmings.
[20:06.520 --> 20:09.520]  We have been plagued with cliff-jumping tonight.
[20:09.520 --> 20:10.520]  Okay.
[20:10.520 --> 20:11.920]  Where were we, Francis?
[20:11.920 --> 20:13.960]  You were doing the criminal complaints.
[20:13.960 --> 20:14.960]  Yeah.
[20:14.960 --> 20:18.760]  Go to jurismprudence.com.
[20:18.760 --> 20:21.360]  Have you been to that site?
[20:21.360 --> 20:24.560]  Hello, Francis.
[20:24.560 --> 20:29.680]  Francis, you still with us?
[20:29.680 --> 20:33.240]  She might have fallen off the cliff, too.
[20:33.240 --> 20:35.840]  I think we'd made a drug her with us.
[20:35.840 --> 20:36.840]  Okay.
[20:36.840 --> 20:37.840]  Heaven forbid.
[20:37.840 --> 20:38.840]  Okay.
[20:38.840 --> 20:44.280]  In that case, we're going to go to Suzanne in North Carolina.
[20:44.280 --> 20:46.280]  Hello, Mrs. Suzanne.
[20:46.280 --> 20:47.280]  Hey, Randy.
[20:47.280 --> 20:48.280]  How are you?
[20:48.280 --> 20:49.280]  I am terrible.
[20:49.280 --> 20:54.720]  I've been falling off the cliff all night with Steve.
[20:54.720 --> 20:59.560]  If it's not you, it's me, and then Joe had a shot at it, and yeah, we've just been plagued
[20:59.560 --> 21:02.880]  with running out of time before we go into the breaks.
[21:02.880 --> 21:07.720]  Yeah, but Steve drugged Joe up to the edge and kicked him off.
[21:07.720 --> 21:10.360]  You drugged me up to the edge and kicked me off.
[21:10.360 --> 21:13.160]  We're having a little problem with the Altros today.
[21:13.160 --> 21:20.360]  We're supposed to get a, we'll hear music in our headsets, the bumper music, but sometimes.
[21:20.360 --> 21:25.200]  I've been hearing it tonight, so it hadn't been getting our attention, and we've been
[21:25.200 --> 21:28.200]  talking over the end of the segment.
[21:28.200 --> 21:29.200]  Okay.
[21:29.200 --> 21:32.200]  I'm sure that's not what Suzanne called in tonight, though.
[21:32.200 --> 21:37.120]  What have you got for us tonight, Suzanne?
[21:37.120 --> 21:48.080]  Well, Randy, I saw you and I live in Asheville, North Carolina, and you came and did a talk
[21:48.080 --> 21:49.080]  at UNC.
[21:49.080 --> 21:52.560]  Yes, I remember that.
[21:52.560 --> 22:01.520]  I was an American fraudulent and I haven't done anything about my mortgage, but I originally
[22:01.520 --> 22:09.140]  started with Countrywide, then it became Bank of America, and now it's Nationstar.
[22:09.140 --> 22:18.160]  It just seems to get more evil and evil, in my opinion, but I live in a condominium.
[22:18.160 --> 22:20.220]  I would share your opinion.
[22:20.220 --> 22:25.500]  Yes, I do share your opinion.
[22:25.500 --> 22:27.300]  Oh, you do share your opinion?
[22:27.300 --> 22:28.300]  Absolutely, yes.
[22:28.300 --> 22:30.940]  It's getting more and more evil as it goes on.
[22:30.940 --> 22:33.780]  That's indicative of these cases.
[22:33.780 --> 22:36.700]  And I'm feeling like I'm going to catch 22.
[22:36.700 --> 22:45.540]  I live in a condominium and for three years I had water coming in and, you know, they wouldn't
[22:45.540 --> 22:46.540]  fix it.
[22:46.540 --> 22:53.700]  And I, you know, I saw three different lawyers and none of them really, most of them talked
[22:53.700 --> 23:00.340]  me out of trying to sue them and you got to have other people to prove that it's a bad
[23:00.340 --> 23:01.340]  management company.
[23:01.340 --> 23:09.820]  Well, finally, I leveraged some power by going to a homeowner's meeting where all the home
[23:09.820 --> 23:15.820]  owners were and they wanted to up our dues a hundred bucks a month to improve different
[23:15.820 --> 23:18.940]  things here that need to be improved.
[23:18.940 --> 23:21.820]  And I just went off on it and I said, what are you talking about?
[23:21.820 --> 23:25.820]  You haven't even fixed the water problem.
[23:25.820 --> 23:30.700]  My carpets ruined, blah, blah, blah, I went on and on.
[23:30.700 --> 23:39.060]  And finally they got to it and they fixed things and part of the problem is it's a construction
[23:39.060 --> 23:40.060]  problem.
[23:40.060 --> 23:43.620]  These places weren't built well.
[23:43.620 --> 23:50.340]  My home is kind of sinking and all the water runs towards the house.
[23:50.340 --> 23:57.860]  The parking lot, the parking lot is higher than the ground that my condo is on.
[23:57.860 --> 24:04.820]  The middle of the courtyard is higher than the ground my condo is on, so stuff is running
[24:04.820 --> 24:05.820]  towards my home.
[24:05.820 --> 24:06.820]  Wait a minute.
[24:06.820 --> 24:12.620]  Who was the, do you know who the architect was who designed the property?
[24:12.620 --> 24:15.420]  He was a site planner.
[24:15.420 --> 24:18.540]  I did have that information.
[24:18.540 --> 24:19.820]  I can get it again.
[24:19.820 --> 24:24.060]  There's a lady that lives here that could tell me.
[24:24.060 --> 24:34.700]  These places were built in 1984, so I think the, that may be too late to have, but so
[24:34.700 --> 24:36.620]  here's my deal.
[24:36.620 --> 24:44.460]  I just want to get out of here and I could try to put it for sale.
[24:44.460 --> 24:50.820]  I honestly don't know if it will sell.
[24:50.820 --> 24:56.460]  What is the condition, what kind of equity do you have in the property?
[24:56.460 --> 25:05.500]  I don't have a whole lot of equity in the property because I did a loan modification
[25:05.500 --> 25:06.660]  with Nationstar.
[25:06.660 --> 25:11.500]  I was out of work for about three months and I didn't pay my loan, actually about five
[25:11.500 --> 25:12.500]  months.
[25:12.500 --> 25:20.060]  I didn't pay my loan and they were going to foreclose on me and, you know, I got scared
[25:20.060 --> 25:23.500]  and I did a home loan modification with them.
[25:23.500 --> 25:26.140]  I wish I'd never done it, but I did it.
[25:26.140 --> 25:27.140]  Okay.
[25:27.140 --> 25:29.140]  Are you up to date?
[25:29.140 --> 25:30.140]  Yes.
[25:30.140 --> 25:31.140]  Yes.
[25:31.140 --> 25:32.140]  Right now I am up to date.
[25:32.140 --> 25:39.940]  I can sue the crap-older out of them and use the lawsuit against them as leverage to short
[25:39.940 --> 25:48.980]  sell the property to get them to give you a break on what they'll take for the property.
[25:48.980 --> 25:58.620]  If they foreclose on your property, they will almost certainly sell it at wholesale at 70%
[25:58.620 --> 26:02.580]  of fair market value.
[26:02.580 --> 26:10.820]  At 70% of fair market value, would that leave you with any equity in the property?
[26:10.820 --> 26:13.860]  I'm really, I'm lost.
[26:13.860 --> 26:16.500]  I'm up to date.
[26:16.500 --> 26:19.700]  I owe about what it's worth, maybe.
[26:19.700 --> 26:20.700]  Okay.
[26:20.700 --> 26:21.700]  Okay.
[26:21.700 --> 26:22.700]  Hang on.
[26:22.700 --> 26:23.700]  Randy, objection?
[26:23.700 --> 26:25.700]  Move for simpler question.
[26:25.700 --> 26:26.700]  Yes.
[26:26.700 --> 26:27.700]  Okay.
[26:27.700 --> 26:34.460]  That was really the piece of information I needed, so you really don't have to be equity.
[26:34.460 --> 26:42.140]  If you want to gain some equity, you could, there are a number of things you can do.
[26:42.140 --> 26:51.180]  One of them is, go to my bad, I told everybody that I had a new website, foreclosurehelp.net.
[26:51.180 --> 26:54.140]  I said org, but it's actually net.
[26:54.140 --> 26:59.700]  I've been juggling some different names and I made a booboo.
[26:59.700 --> 27:00.700]  Okay.
[27:00.700 --> 27:09.380]  Foreclosurehelp.net, go there, look at that site, it'll show you a number of things you
[27:09.380 --> 27:10.380]  can do.
[27:10.380 --> 27:14.980]  Now, the site's a little flaky, I just got it up, so it's got some bugs in it.
[27:14.980 --> 27:21.060]  So I've got a disclaimer on there to cut me some slack because there's a lot of information
[27:21.060 --> 27:22.060]  there.
[27:22.060 --> 27:23.060]  Okay.
[27:23.060 --> 27:26.620]  So even though I'm not in foreclosure, I'm not in foreclosure.
[27:26.620 --> 27:28.620]  The foreclosure is better.
[27:28.620 --> 27:32.580]  I mean, I'm sorry, not in foreclosure is even better.
[27:32.580 --> 27:33.580]  Oh, okay.
[27:33.580 --> 27:36.700]  So you're telling us to gain some equity.
[27:36.700 --> 27:42.940]  If you're not in foreclosure and you sue the bank for, say, the fraud on the closing
[27:42.940 --> 27:48.220]  documents, they can only lose.
[27:48.220 --> 27:52.100]  There's no win, there's no win for them, they can only lose.
[27:52.100 --> 27:57.140]  They just get to determine how much they're going to lose.
[27:57.140 --> 28:03.700]  So once you sue them, then you ask for mediation.
[28:03.700 --> 28:06.620]  Guys, let's make a deal.
[28:06.620 --> 28:12.100]  Knock 30% off my mortgage and I'll drop this suit.
[28:12.100 --> 28:19.900]  Or since the property's essentially now in a flood zone, I'd try to knock off more.
[28:19.900 --> 28:24.020]  Well, see, here's the deal, I just want to walk away from this.
[28:24.020 --> 28:30.540]  I mean, yes, they could knock money off, but I would still have to sell the property.
[28:30.540 --> 28:31.540]  Yeah, okay.
[28:31.540 --> 28:32.540]  That did do a short sale.
[28:32.540 --> 28:33.540]  Okay.
[28:33.540 --> 28:39.380]  I'm going to find someone who will make an offer and get the bank to short sell it at
[28:39.380 --> 28:42.660]  that price and you'll drop the suit.
[28:42.660 --> 28:43.660]  Okay.
[28:43.660 --> 28:47.460]  They're not going to do that unless you give them a reason to.
[28:47.460 --> 28:52.420]  The first thing you need to do is get a good evaluation of what your situation is.
[28:52.420 --> 28:57.420]  So go look at free foreclosure help.
[28:57.420 --> 28:59.420]  I'm sorry, wrong set.
[28:59.420 --> 29:01.940]  You can remember your own website.
[29:01.940 --> 29:14.940]  Go to freemortgagehelp.net or is it org because earlier, I said org first, it's net.
[29:14.940 --> 29:17.940]  We revved him over the break about that.
[29:17.940 --> 29:23.540]  Randy, I thought you were trying to help people.
[29:23.540 --> 29:24.540]  I own that.
[29:24.540 --> 29:28.100]  I was going to say something, but I'll be nice.
[29:28.100 --> 29:35.140]  The other one, I have another one that's free foreclosure help, freeforeclosure-help.org
[29:35.140 --> 29:37.420]  and I'm getting the two mixed up.
[29:37.420 --> 29:44.500]  Wait, okay, free foreclosure, I shouldn't even said that.
[29:44.500 --> 29:45.500]  Free mortgage help.net.
[29:45.500 --> 29:46.500]  Okay.
[29:46.500 --> 29:50.500]  And there was a woman here in Asheville.
[29:50.500 --> 29:53.260]  You're going to have to hold that thought.
[29:53.260 --> 29:54.260]  We're going to break.
[29:54.260 --> 29:56.620]  Folks, we'll be right back after this brief message.
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[34:23.740 --> 34:33.740]  Yes, I don't remember her last name, but her first name was Dixie, and she was working under you, helping people.
[34:33.740 --> 34:35.740]  Yes.
[34:35.740 --> 34:38.740]  Is she still working with you?
[34:38.740 --> 34:45.740]  Well, we haven't done much together, but we're still in contact.
[34:45.740 --> 34:50.740]  I didn't know if she might be a local contact.
[34:50.740 --> 34:52.740]  She is local?
[34:52.740 --> 34:55.740]  She's there in Asheville.
[34:55.740 --> 35:00.740]  And if you send me an email, I will send you her phone number.
[35:00.740 --> 35:01.740]  Okay.
[35:01.740 --> 35:03.740]  And what's your email, Randy?
[35:03.740 --> 35:06.740]  I think I have it, but I...
[35:06.740 --> 35:12.740]  It's randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[35:12.740 --> 35:17.740]  If that doesn't work, try randycan'trememberisownwebsites.com.
[35:17.740 --> 35:20.740]  That one, too.
[35:20.740 --> 35:25.740]  Either way, now, because I don't want to have to go through this again.
[35:25.740 --> 35:29.740]  I am going to ask again about...
[35:29.740 --> 35:31.740]  Okay, let me repeat the website.
[35:31.740 --> 35:35.740]  There was freemortgashelp.net.
[35:35.740 --> 35:37.740]  Yes.
[35:37.740 --> 35:43.740]  And then you have one called foreclosurehelp.net.
[35:43.740 --> 35:44.740]  Free foreclosure help.
[35:44.740 --> 35:48.740]  No, just scratch that one altogether.
[35:48.740 --> 35:49.740]  Scratch it altogether?
[35:49.740 --> 35:52.740]  Yes, scratch that one altogether.
[35:52.740 --> 35:56.740]  Just freemortgashelp.net.
[35:56.740 --> 35:57.740]  Yes.
[35:57.740 --> 35:58.740]  Okay.
[35:58.740 --> 36:00.740]  And so I can...
[36:00.740 --> 36:07.740]  It'll help me with the process of knowing how to...
[36:07.740 --> 36:11.740]  Yes, and it's got a 800 number or an 844 number.
[36:11.740 --> 36:14.740]  If there's any questions...
[36:14.740 --> 36:19.740]  The site still has a lot of glitches in it because I just brought it up
[36:19.740 --> 36:25.740]  and I'm hiring somebody to go over and correct all my grammar and spelling
[36:25.740 --> 36:27.740]  and got a lot of dropglinks.
[36:27.740 --> 36:29.740]  So discuss some glitches in it.
[36:29.740 --> 36:32.740]  If there's anything that you need and can't find,
[36:32.740 --> 36:37.740]  just call that 800 number and we'll explain it to you.
[36:37.740 --> 36:38.740]  Okay.
[36:38.740 --> 36:41.740]  Everything on there is free.
[36:41.740 --> 36:47.740]  It is my repository of my six years of research on the subject.
[36:47.740 --> 36:49.740]  Okay.
[36:49.740 --> 36:54.740]  Well, that's very kind and I'm happy to pay anybody to help me.
[36:54.740 --> 36:57.740]  I just got to get out of this catch 22.
[36:57.740 --> 37:04.740]  Well, we offer services if this is too much for you,
[37:04.740 --> 37:07.740]  but essentially everything there is free.
[37:07.740 --> 37:12.740]  If you can't, if you need help with it, we can help you,
[37:12.740 --> 37:15.740]  but all the information is there.
[37:15.740 --> 37:19.740]  The main thing it'll tell you is there's a lot of things you can do.
[37:19.740 --> 37:22.740]  And if I just need help, I just call the 1-800 number though.
[37:22.740 --> 37:27.740]  If I need somebody to do it or whatever, I can pay them or I can...
[37:27.740 --> 37:29.740]  Exactly.
[37:29.740 --> 37:30.740]  Get that help.
[37:30.740 --> 37:31.740]  Okay, great.
[37:31.740 --> 37:33.740]  There's vendors on there.
[37:33.740 --> 37:34.740]  I appreciate it.
[37:34.740 --> 37:36.740]  Okay, excellent.
[37:36.740 --> 37:38.740]  Okay, thank you.
[37:38.740 --> 37:43.740]  Now we're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[37:43.740 --> 37:45.740]  Hello, Mark.
[37:45.740 --> 37:49.740]  There's another kind of soul that's up to no good.
[37:49.740 --> 37:54.740]  He was on last night causing trouble.
[37:54.740 --> 37:55.740]  Good for him.
[37:55.740 --> 37:57.740]  Hi, Mark.
[37:57.740 --> 38:01.740]  Hello there, Mr. Kelton and Mr. Skidmore.
[38:01.740 --> 38:04.740]  Actually, I've got a mortgage question.
[38:04.740 --> 38:06.740]  Imagine that.
[38:06.740 --> 38:08.740]  Imagine that, yes.
[38:08.740 --> 38:13.740]  The mortgage in question is from early 2000.
[38:13.740 --> 38:20.740]  So it has the hallmarks of fraud sold in six months after it was created,
[38:20.740 --> 38:26.740]  which Mr. Kelton has mentioned in previous broadcasts were part of a...
[38:26.740 --> 38:28.740]  You didn't original it.
[38:28.740 --> 38:30.740]  The bank never really helped the paper.
[38:30.740 --> 38:33.740]  It was part of an investment trust where the money had to be rolled over
[38:33.740 --> 38:35.740]  in six months and that's why they got sold.
[38:35.740 --> 38:37.740]  A little money down, et cetera.
[38:37.740 --> 38:40.740]  Now, I am not the holder of the note.
[38:40.740 --> 38:45.740]  I'm not the signature of the note, but I am a trustee to the property.
[38:45.740 --> 38:53.740]  Being a trustee, does that give me any kind of legal ability to ask the bank
[38:53.740 --> 38:56.740]  and start slapping them around?
[38:56.740 --> 38:59.740]  Is the property in a trust?
[38:59.740 --> 39:04.740]  It is now in a trust. It's been in a trust for about a year.
[39:04.740 --> 39:10.740]  Then essentially, you're the one with standing.
[39:10.740 --> 39:14.740]  Okay. That's what I wanted to know.
[39:14.740 --> 39:16.740]  All right.
[39:16.740 --> 39:22.740]  Then I'll have other questions as I have time to look into all the issues there.
[39:22.740 --> 39:28.740]  And I'll spend some time looking at your free mortgage website there, Mr. Kelton.
[39:28.740 --> 39:32.740]  Okay. And let me know where you find errors.
[39:32.740 --> 39:34.740]  Most certainly.
[39:34.740 --> 39:40.740]  Now, I have other questions and this one I'm hoping to get Mr. Skidmore's input on.
[39:40.740 --> 39:41.740]  Okay.
[39:41.740 --> 39:46.740]  Now, the courts have a...Mr. Skidmore's not quite up to date, I'm sure,
[39:46.740 --> 39:51.740]  on the whole guy lies in court, the attorney lies in court,
[39:51.740 --> 39:57.740]  and the second attorney lies in court about this business issue that went on.
[39:57.740 --> 39:58.740]  No.
[39:58.740 --> 40:01.740]  Okay. Hang on. Let's clarify something.
[40:01.740 --> 40:06.740]  It is legally impossible for an attorney to lie in court.
[40:06.740 --> 40:08.740]  You would think that.
[40:08.740 --> 40:11.740]  No, no, no, no, no. I know that.
[40:11.740 --> 40:14.740]  An attorney does not lie in court.
[40:14.740 --> 40:20.740]  You and I lie on the street, but an attorney does not lie and cannot lie in court.
[40:20.740 --> 40:23.740]  Lie is a lay term.
[40:23.740 --> 40:28.740]  Instead, what an attorney does is he commits ethics violations,
[40:28.740 --> 40:34.740]  usually section three of the bar code and candor toward the tribunal.
[40:34.740 --> 40:41.740]  He commits aggravated perjury or simple perjury, but he cannot lie.
[40:41.740 --> 40:46.740]  There's no penalty for lying, but there are penalties for the others.
[40:46.740 --> 40:51.740]  Well, I can't really touch the perjury per se because perjury is a criminal issue
[40:51.740 --> 40:58.740]  and I'm not a DJ, nor can I get them to, because I brought this stuff up as a 968.
[40:58.740 --> 41:01.740]  In Wisconsin Code, we have a 96801 that says,
[41:01.740 --> 41:08.740]  if you believe a crime has happened, you can fill out your own affidavit
[41:08.740 --> 41:13.740]  and make it in front of a judge to have him sign your criminal complaint.
[41:13.740 --> 41:18.740]  I'm walking one of those to the judge, and the judge treated it like plutonium.
[41:18.740 --> 41:20.740]  Imagine that.
[41:20.740 --> 41:23.740]  Yeah, they don't like going after their golf partners,
[41:23.740 --> 41:31.740]  especially when their golf partners are making contributions to their electoral campaign.
[41:31.740 --> 41:38.740]  Well, and to that end, there was a formal document entered in one of the cases
[41:38.740 --> 41:43.740]  with one of the parties involved with this where he tempted to bribe a different lawyer,
[41:43.740 --> 41:47.740]  a thousand dollars, to create some faked up paperwork.
[41:47.740 --> 41:48.740]  Nice.
[41:48.740 --> 41:53.740]  The judge also said on the record, and there should be transcripts available,
[41:53.740 --> 42:00.740]  the judge said, I don't even want to touch this, and then just left that motion on the floor.
[42:00.740 --> 42:04.740]  But anyway...
[42:04.740 --> 42:05.740]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[42:05.740 --> 42:10.740]  Did you ask the judge, if you don't want to do your job,
[42:10.740 --> 42:15.740]  will you get down off that bench and get someone in here who will?
[42:15.740 --> 42:21.740]  Unfortunately, it wasn't my case, so I would have been shouting that from the peanut gallery,
[42:21.740 --> 42:26.740]  and I have no power in the peanut gallery, which is part of the issue here.
[42:26.740 --> 42:31.740]  From the peanut gallery, the guy has accused me of receiving stolen money,
[42:31.740 --> 42:38.740]  and I've written not only the Judiciary Committee of the State, but the Supreme Court of the State,
[42:38.740 --> 42:43.740]  and I bar grieve the lawyer over it, and of course the bar grievance people came back and said,
[42:43.740 --> 42:49.740]  oh, there was nothing that happened here.
[42:49.740 --> 42:52.740]  So what was your question?
[42:52.740 --> 42:57.740]  Well, here's the question, or the statements, and we get to the question.
[42:57.740 --> 43:00.740]  The court has an interest in course in creating finality in a case.
[43:00.740 --> 43:05.740]  However, the court also is in a position of moral hazard,
[43:05.740 --> 43:11.740]  and there also seems to be a condition in the court that if you end up getting your judgment,
[43:11.740 --> 43:13.740]  it's a no harm, no foul.
[43:13.740 --> 43:17.740]  It really doesn't matter what the other guys did, we're just going to ignore it.
[43:17.740 --> 43:25.740]  But then that creates a moral hazard of the attorney can create ethics violations,
[43:25.740 --> 43:34.740]  and their downside would seem to be that their client has to pay the judgment.
[43:34.740 --> 43:41.740]  So how do I get past this appearance of a moral hazard and get these guys accountable?
[43:41.740 --> 43:47.740]  Well, I hear the music in the background, and that'll give me time to think about this over the break.
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[46:58.740 --> 47:08.740]  Okay, we are back. Okay, Andy Kelton, Steve's Kidmore. Joe Esquivel, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[47:08.740 --> 47:20.740]  Okay, we were having too much fun on the break. Bring me back up to speed. I was supposed to figure out an answer to that question.
[47:20.740 --> 47:34.740]  All right, I was teasing Debra's husband because he's so old. He's actually older than me.
[47:34.740 --> 47:41.740]  Okay, six months, but at my age, I'll take what I can get. Anyway, go ahead, Mark.
[47:41.740 --> 47:59.740]  All right, so we have this situation where the courts, of course, want the quality of the case, and the courts seem to treat any violation or anything that happens in the case is no harm, no foul once the case is decided.
[47:59.740 --> 48:07.740]  So if there is lawyer misconduct, if the case has been decided or the issue has been decided, we don't really care about the misconduct.
[48:07.740 --> 48:17.740]  Plus, they also, you know, pawn it off on the people from the, well, there's an entire set group that handles misconduct.
[48:17.740 --> 48:25.740]  Go see them in the form of the Bar Association, the SCR, the Supreme Court rules.
[48:25.740 --> 48:37.740]  Okay, okay, hold on. We spoke earlier about law use lying. And Steve made the point that they don't lie in court.
[48:37.740 --> 48:45.740]  They commit ethics violations. They commit perjury. They fail to speak with candor to the court.
[48:45.740 --> 49:01.740]  As I understand, they are officers of the court. Yes, so. And as we understood, he is a pro-stay and no-nothin' beach bomb pro-sintigan, also magically becomes an officer.
[49:01.740 --> 49:07.740]  No, he doesn't. What is the discussion? Oh, I don't become a magically an officer in the court.
[49:07.740 --> 49:18.740]  No, you do not. The lawyer is an officer of the court because he has a special privilege. Ah, good, good.
[49:18.740 --> 49:26.740]  That makes him an officer. They are essentially all public servants.
[49:26.740 --> 49:37.740]  And the lawyer is a public servant to the, to the degree that he has a obligation to the court as an officer of the court.
[49:37.740 --> 49:45.740]  You are not a public servant. You are the master. You should never let him forget that.
[49:45.740 --> 49:59.740]  And if you're sitting out there in the gallery, you have authorized that lawyer through your legislature to come into that court and adjudicate cases for money.
[49:59.740 --> 50:06.740]  But you've authorized him to adjudicate cases for money under a set of conditions.
[50:06.740 --> 50:20.740]  And if he breaches one of those conditions, you should have a right to raise the issue. Now, if his action is an action that's defined as a crime by the laws of the state,
[50:20.740 --> 50:30.740]  and you have knowledge that he committed those crimes, and you don't report those crimes, you could be guilty of a crime.
[50:30.740 --> 50:43.740]  Now, in Texas, you only have a duty to report felons. You don't have a statutory duty to report misdemeanors.
[50:43.740 --> 50:50.740]  But if you don't do it, if you don't report a felony, that's a crime on your part.
[50:50.740 --> 51:05.740]  So, if you're sitting in this court and you observe a lawyer lying to the court, and that's aggravated perjury, if he lies about a material fact,
[51:05.740 --> 51:12.740]  and you don't report that crime, what does that make you?
[51:12.740 --> 51:25.740]  Well, in the state of Wisconsin, what's real interesting is if you have a private detective license, and you do not report any crime, it's called a misdemeanor.
[51:25.740 --> 51:29.740]  You need to get a license.
[51:29.740 --> 51:38.740]  It's only $1,000 to get the insurance in taking a test to become a private detective.
[51:38.740 --> 51:49.740]  In Texas, you can't just become a private detective. You have to either have been in security or a police officer for at least two years, I believe.
[51:49.740 --> 51:54.740]  In Wisconsin, you take a test and have insurance.
[51:54.740 --> 52:03.740]  Interesting. I'm setting up a private investigator firm here.
[52:03.740 --> 52:08.740]  I have a guy that's going to set it up for me, and he's going to make me a private investigator.
[52:08.740 --> 52:12.740]  Oh, yeah, I get my badge and everything.
[52:12.740 --> 52:21.740]  But I'm not going to do any private investigations, but that would be interesting if it places a different responsibility on me.
[52:21.740 --> 52:27.740]  Another little tidbit of Wisconsin law, if you're a notary, you can act as a court reporter.
[52:27.740 --> 52:37.740]  I have used that one in a divorce case. I walked in and started setting up my computer, and they asked me who I was and what I was doing,
[52:37.740 --> 52:41.740]  because I was just setting it up in the corner, not where a normal court reporter sits.
[52:41.740 --> 52:47.740]  I said, well, I'm notary, and I'm wanting to act as they are notarizing this whole thing, so I'm setting up over here.
[52:47.740 --> 52:57.740]  And the gal who is otherwise there, she looks at me, blinks a few times, goes behind into the judge's chamber,
[52:57.740 --> 53:05.740]  judge comes out, looks, blinks, then they both disappear, then ultimately other people came into the courtroom and looked,
[53:05.740 --> 53:13.740]  and at a certain point, another person who I hadn't seen comes in and says, the judge is not available, we're going to go meet someplace else.
[53:13.740 --> 53:17.740]  So I start picking up, she goes, you don't need to come. I said, yes, I do.
[53:17.740 --> 53:27.740]  We walked out of the entire judicial building and went over to the sheriff's building and then had a meeting in a public space where people were walking in and out.
[53:27.740 --> 53:31.740]  That's how bad they didn't want me doing that.
[53:31.740 --> 53:33.740]  Good.
[53:33.740 --> 53:45.740]  And I did that in the second case down in a different county, was an eviction foreclosure case. Ultimately, every time I showed up, the judge didn't show.
[53:45.740 --> 53:53.740]  And then the last time I was involved, the judge committed suicide up in the park a few hours earlier.
[53:53.740 --> 54:01.740]  Now, I'm not 100% sure I was responsible in any way, shape, or form for the judge there, but it seems powerful.
[54:01.740 --> 54:05.740]  It's a little over the top.
[54:05.740 --> 54:11.740]  I mean, we want to intimidate the judges, but not quite that much.
[54:11.740 --> 54:13.740]  Yeah, yeah.
[54:13.740 --> 54:30.740]  Back to my question here. What we've got is if the finality of the case and the treated as no harm, no foul on whatever the attorney does, how do I get past that and the obvious moral hazard of, well, the attorney can do and say whatever they want.
[54:30.740 --> 54:36.740]  And when the case ends, we don't care.
[54:36.740 --> 54:46.740]  If you have standing in the case, you can always see the lawyer from our practice or you should. That is a good question.
[54:46.740 --> 54:52.740]  If what the lawyer does is criminal, you can certainly pursue criminal prosecution.
[54:52.740 --> 54:56.740]  Right. Well, we know how far that's going to fly.
[54:56.740 --> 55:10.740]  That flies further than you would think because when you pursue the criminal prosecution, okay, this goes back to some basic adages.
[55:10.740 --> 55:19.740]  And the first one is never ask a public official to do anything that you actually want him to do.
[55:19.740 --> 55:27.740]  Because you never ask a public official to do anything that the law does not specifically require them to do.
[55:27.740 --> 55:33.740]  So that when they don't do it, you get to clover the public official.
[55:33.740 --> 55:41.740]  So you go in and file a complaint against the lawyer and all their buddies in their good old boy system try to protect the lawyer.
[55:41.740 --> 55:44.740]  Wonderful. This is great.
[55:44.740 --> 55:56.740]  You get to clover the one trying to do the protection. Recently, I was in Tarrant County, Texas at a JP's office and asked to see some records.
[55:56.740 --> 55:59.740]  And the clerks gave me a little trouble, but they finally brought them out.
[55:59.740 --> 56:08.740]  And then the JP came out and she said, you can't look at those. You would be a security risk.
[56:08.740 --> 56:14.740]  And I've got the records already open here. So I can't see these. I would be a security risk. Yes, you would.
[56:14.740 --> 56:18.740]  So I can't look at these. No, you can't. So I close the file, sleep back across the table.
[56:18.740 --> 56:22.740]  And this time the bailiff had kind of sidled up next to us.
[56:22.740 --> 56:28.740]  And I told the bailiff, I said, you're the bailiff of the court. He just said, arrest that woman.
[56:28.740 --> 56:34.740]  And I pointed at the JP and he said, well, I can't arrest her. This is her court.
[56:34.740 --> 56:42.740]  You are mistaken. This is my court. And I very generously allow her to administer it in accordance with my law.
[56:42.740 --> 56:48.740]  And she's breached that law. Arrest her. Well, I can't arrest the JP. She sure can.
[56:48.740 --> 56:54.740]  He said, oh, no, well, Miss Kelvin, I have to administer the court. Let me get you my boss.
[56:54.740 --> 56:59.740]  I said, that'll work. So he takes me downstairs to the head constable.
[56:59.740 --> 57:07.740]  And I asked the head constable to arrest him because he refused to arrest the JP.
[57:07.740 --> 57:11.740]  And the constable said, well, we don't do that.
[57:11.740 --> 57:17.740]  I said, are you a certified peace officer in the state of Texas? He said, yes, I am.
[57:17.740 --> 57:23.740]  And I don't care what you don't do. He said, look, Miss Kelvin, we have a policy that we don't do arrest.
[57:23.740 --> 57:29.740]  And I told him, you can use your policy for toilet paper.
[57:29.740 --> 57:34.740]  You are a certified police officer under 2.13 code of criminal procedure.
[57:34.740 --> 57:40.740]  You have a duty to keep peace by all legal means. And one of them is arrest perpetrators. Arrest that man.
[57:40.740 --> 57:45.740]  Well, I'm not going to arrest him. So you're going to refuse to perform your duty? Well, I'm not going to arrest him.
[57:45.740 --> 57:53.740]  Okay, that'll work. And where's the sheriff's office? And there was one across the street. I already knew that.
[57:53.740 --> 57:58.740]  He said, we'll do some substation across the street. I said, thank you. I'll go across the street.
[57:58.740 --> 58:08.740]  And I asked for a sheriff deputy to arrest the head constable for not arresting his constable, for not arresting the JP.
[58:08.740 --> 58:17.740]  You see how this works? This is great fun. You haven't done it. You've got to try it once.
[58:17.740 --> 58:23.740]  Okay, hang on, Mark. We're about to go to break. This is Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we have our radio.
[58:23.740 --> 58:33.740]  I call in number 512-646-1984. Give us a call. We've got another hour and we'll be taking your calls on any subject.
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[58:37.740 --> 58:44.740]  Anyway, give us a call. 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:24.740 --> 01:03:47.740]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Ruvla Radio.
[01:03:47.740 --> 01:03:52.740]  And we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin. Where were we, Mark?
[01:03:52.740 --> 01:03:55.740]  Well, I think you brought up your weight gain.
[01:03:55.740 --> 01:04:00.740]  I was just going to point out that that makes the ribbing for Mr. Skidmore a little less painful.
[01:04:00.740 --> 01:04:06.740]  I take some ribbing from him, but I deserve it.
[01:04:06.740 --> 01:04:20.740]  Well, we were trying to deal with the moral hazard there of the attorneys violating various court rules.
[01:04:20.740 --> 01:04:25.740]  That's the act of criminal. Have you tried criminal?
[01:04:25.740 --> 01:04:31.740]  Well, I tried criminal in the form of the 968 in front of a judge.
[01:04:31.740 --> 01:04:37.740]  The judge invited me to show up in the court the next day when they were having a hearing with the various parties.
[01:04:37.740 --> 01:04:43.740]  He did a shout-out to me in the peanut gallery and talked about me for about five minutes
[01:04:43.740 --> 01:04:51.740]  right at the very beginning of the trial and the issue where they ended up, the other side that I helped out
[01:04:51.740 --> 01:04:55.740]  ended up getting a $1.9 million judgment.
[01:04:55.740 --> 01:05:05.740]  So I've tried the criminal there. When I tried to file a criminal complaint early on in my particular case,
[01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:13.740]  the DA said go see the cops and besides they're not going to talk to you anyway since this is a court case
[01:05:13.740 --> 01:05:17.740]  where they're not going to take an interest and the police wouldn't take a report.
[01:05:17.740 --> 01:05:21.740]  They said that's a court case. That's a matter for the court to decide.
[01:05:21.740 --> 01:05:26.740]  The court case is going on, so we're not going to do anything. So I tried.
[01:05:26.740 --> 01:05:33.740]  Okay. You have to understand they're not going to do what they're supposed to do.
[01:05:33.740 --> 01:05:35.740]  Of course.
[01:05:35.740 --> 01:05:43.740]  So that's okay. Never ask a public official to do anything you actually want him to do
[01:05:43.740 --> 01:05:48.740]  because you're going to kick him right square in his professional behind when he doesn't.
[01:05:48.740 --> 01:05:56.740]  I have a niece here who is having a family issue and the ex-husband is acting really crazy.
[01:05:56.740 --> 01:06:04.740]  So I took a set of complaints to the sheriff's department and the sheriff's deputy got out this
[01:06:04.740 --> 01:06:12.740]  voluntary statement while I took him in affidavit along with complaints filled out and he refused to take them.
[01:06:12.740 --> 01:06:24.740]  And then he wanted me to sign this voluntary statement along with a document where I swore that
[01:06:24.740 --> 01:06:30.740]  under oath that everything I said was true and best of my knowledge.
[01:06:30.740 --> 01:06:37.740]  And I had to mark a space to tell him whether I wanted to prosecute or not.
[01:06:37.740 --> 01:06:40.740]  And I said, I am not marking that.
[01:06:40.740 --> 01:06:45.740]  Whether or not I want to prosecute is irrelevant.
[01:06:45.740 --> 01:06:48.740]  You have a duty, just do your duty.
[01:06:48.740 --> 01:06:57.740]  And because I didn't, refused to tell him whether or not I wanted him to prosecute, he refused to take the complaint.
[01:06:57.740 --> 01:07:01.740]  He said, this is their policy.
[01:07:01.740 --> 01:07:06.740]  I said, well, you can use your policy for toilet paper.
[01:07:06.740 --> 01:07:09.740]  I could care less about your policy.
[01:07:09.740 --> 01:07:15.740]  I'm here to invoke your duty under 2.13 code of criminal procedure, either do it or don't, and I don't care which.
[01:07:15.740 --> 01:07:19.740]  Well, I'm not going to take your complaint. Okay, that'll work.
[01:07:19.740 --> 01:07:22.740]  The next day I come back and I go to the justice of the peace.
[01:07:22.740 --> 01:07:28.740]  He happened to be right across the hall and waited for him to finish the hearing.
[01:07:28.740 --> 01:07:35.740]  And I told him that I was here to invoke his duty as a magistrate.
[01:07:35.740 --> 01:07:38.740]  He's a brand new JP.
[01:07:38.740 --> 01:07:41.740]  And he didn't understand what I was talking about.
[01:07:41.740 --> 01:07:44.740]  And I said, I have some criminal complaints to present to you.
[01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:50.740]  He said, you will have to take those through the proper channels.
[01:07:50.740 --> 01:07:55.740]  Well, excuse me, but you are the proper channel.
[01:07:55.740 --> 01:07:58.740]  Oh, no, you'll have to take those through the proper channel.
[01:07:58.740 --> 01:08:06.740]  You see, what he didn't know and what he was implying is I needed to take those to the police department.
[01:08:06.740 --> 01:08:18.740]  Well, he didn't know and never got the opportunity to find out because he refused to do his duty was that I was filing a complaint against the police officer,
[01:08:18.740 --> 01:08:27.740]  who was the proper channel, who refused to do his duty, and I was filing because he refused to do his duty.
[01:08:27.740 --> 01:08:30.740]  And the JP did the same thing.
[01:08:30.740 --> 01:08:41.740]  So the next day I came back, my wife said that I had to get these filed and sign that thing saying you want them to prosecute.
[01:08:41.740 --> 01:08:44.740]  So I said, OK, OK, now come back.
[01:08:44.740 --> 01:08:53.740]  And the officer again wouldn't take my complaint because the things I was complaining about didn't happen to me.
[01:08:53.740 --> 01:09:01.740]  I asked the officer, where did you get your training?
[01:09:01.740 --> 01:09:04.740]  And he tells me Southern, I think Baylor or one of the universities around there.
[01:09:04.740 --> 01:09:07.740]  I said, well, you must not have paid very much attention.
[01:09:07.740 --> 01:09:14.740]  Do I have to read to you Article 2.13 code of criminal procedure?
[01:09:14.740 --> 01:09:20.740]  He really wanted to lose his cool, but he didn't quite.
[01:09:20.740 --> 01:09:24.740]  And then he said, well, I'm just not going to take your complaint because it didn't happen to you.
[01:09:24.740 --> 01:09:27.740]  Well, in that case, you dismissed you can go.
[01:09:27.740 --> 01:09:28.740]  What?
[01:09:28.740 --> 01:09:29.740]  He said, what?
[01:09:29.740 --> 01:09:30.740]  Beat it.
[01:09:30.740 --> 01:09:33.740]  Get lost.
[01:09:33.740 --> 01:09:35.740]  Well, I was too mad.
[01:09:35.740 --> 01:09:37.740]  The captain came out.
[01:09:37.740 --> 01:09:39.740]  Somebody else came out and asked what the problem was.
[01:09:39.740 --> 01:09:45.740]  And I said, you sent this moron out to take my complaint and all he can do is act ignorant.
[01:09:45.740 --> 01:09:46.740]  I need a real policeman.
[01:09:46.740 --> 01:09:52.740]  Well, let me get the captain of the Sheriff's Department.
[01:09:52.740 --> 01:09:53.740]  That'll do.
[01:09:53.740 --> 01:09:59.740]  But instead of the captain coming out, the high sheriff of the county came out and took my complaints.
[01:09:59.740 --> 01:10:06.740]  I can find no evidence that he presented my complaints to some magistrate.
[01:10:06.740 --> 01:10:14.740]  So now I'll go to the county judge and file criminal charges against the high sheriff of the county
[01:10:14.740 --> 01:10:20.740]  for failing to present my complaints to some magistrate.
[01:10:20.740 --> 01:10:26.740]  And the county judge is not going to want to take my complaint against the high sheriff of the county.
[01:10:26.740 --> 01:10:28.740]  That'll work.
[01:10:28.740 --> 01:10:32.740]  Then I'll go to the district court who hates me.
[01:10:32.740 --> 01:10:34.740]  The county judge doesn't hate me.
[01:10:34.740 --> 01:10:39.740]  You don't like me, but according to the prosecutor, he respects my knowledge.
[01:10:39.740 --> 01:10:41.740]  The district judge hates me.
[01:10:41.740 --> 01:10:49.740]  The district judge with criminal charges against the county judge for not taking complaints against the sheriff,
[01:10:49.740 --> 01:10:57.740]  for not taking complaints against the magistrate, for not taking complaints against the deputy.
[01:10:57.740 --> 01:11:01.740]  You see how this goes?
[01:11:01.740 --> 01:11:07.740]  Then we'll go to the prosecuting attorney who refused to take complaints.
[01:11:07.740 --> 01:11:12.740]  And then I'll go directly to the grand jury with complaints against the prosecuting attorney.
[01:11:12.740 --> 01:11:24.740]  And if the prosecutor interferes with me getting to the grand jury, then I'm going to try something new.
[01:11:24.740 --> 01:11:32.740]  As I read the code, the grand jury is a state entity.
[01:11:32.740 --> 01:11:39.740]  It's consecrated by the district court, which is a state office.
[01:11:39.740 --> 01:11:51.740]  And the duties of the grand jury specifically state that it shall be the duty of the grand jury to investigate into all criminal accusations
[01:11:51.740 --> 01:12:02.740]  that come to their knowledge by way of their own personal knowledge, the prosecuting attorney, or any credible person.
[01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:16.740]  It does not say the grand jury shall investigate all criminal accusations for crimes committed within a specific venue or county or area.
[01:12:16.740 --> 01:12:20.740]  It says all criminal accusations.
[01:12:20.740 --> 01:12:33.740]  And while it names the prosecutor, that does imply that the prosecutor who can go to a specific grand jury is the prosecutor in that jurisdiction.
[01:12:33.740 --> 01:12:39.740]  It also says any credible person.
[01:12:39.740 --> 01:12:58.740]  And that does not reference any venue. Like if it's a 274th judicial district, there's nothing that says the grand jury's jurisdiction is limited by the jurisdiction of the district court.
[01:12:58.740 --> 01:13:09.740]  So the way I read it, there's nothing proved to prevent me from going through any grand jury within the state of Texas to make a criminal accusation.
[01:13:09.740 --> 01:13:19.740]  Now, in Texas, we have attorney general opinion H-500, and that's a question about a magistrate doing an examination hearing.
[01:13:19.740 --> 01:13:24.740]  Now, essentially, that's what a grand jury does, is they do a problem to cause hearing.
[01:13:24.740 --> 01:13:31.740]  And someone from brought to the magistrate allegations of a crime from a different county.
[01:13:31.740 --> 01:13:36.740]  And they questioned the authority of the JP to do that.
[01:13:36.740 --> 01:13:50.740]  And the attorney general opinion unequivocally stated that the magistrate had could take any complaint, felony, or misdemeanor state or federal, anywhere in Texas.
[01:13:50.740 --> 01:14:09.740]  So there was no jurisdiction limits on a JP. And I'm going to maintain that since a grand jury performs essentially the same function, there's no reason to presume that there would be some kind of jurisdictional limitation.
[01:14:09.740 --> 01:14:23.740]  Now, that's a long way around saying take it to another jurisdiction, another grand jury, not the one this prosecutor stands over, but a different one.
[01:14:23.740 --> 01:14:29.740]  In this case, I'll take it to Travis County, which is the seat of government.
[01:14:29.740 --> 01:14:39.740]  Now, I have some complaints in the seat in Travis County, I'll take those to another county, like Tarrant County, where Fort Worth is.
[01:14:39.740 --> 01:14:42.740]  We'll see how that works for them.
[01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:48.740]  In the end, Mark, this is all politics. Everything's below the court.
[01:14:48.740 --> 01:14:58.740]  When we start stinging these guys in areas they don't feel like they control, they're not ever going to come to you.
[01:14:58.740 --> 01:15:05.740]  They're going to come to you and say, yeah, you're right. Yeah, because of you, we change things.
[01:15:05.740 --> 01:15:10.740]  They'll just change things to keep this kind of thing from happening again.
[01:15:10.740 --> 01:15:23.740]  I just had someone in Johnson County send me an email and wanted me to go on a Johnson County corrupt thing site and explain what I did to the prosecutor term.
[01:15:23.740 --> 01:15:32.740]  Well, I went on that site and I got all of these listings of these people complaining about Johnson County police.
[01:15:32.740 --> 01:15:41.740]  And I went through a whole stack of them and finally I wrote in there that what I had done was filed criminal charges against the district attorney with the grand jury.
[01:15:41.740 --> 01:15:45.740]  And I actually presented the district attorney with the grand jury.
[01:15:45.740 --> 01:15:53.740]  And they no building, they refused to indict. And I had him absolutely dead bang.
[01:15:53.740 --> 01:15:59.740]  But I did not want him indicted.
[01:15:59.740 --> 01:16:03.740]  I am getting a lot of background noise there, Mark.
[01:16:03.740 --> 01:16:08.740]  I have been muted for the second, for the moment, but don't worry about it, I'll mute you.
[01:16:08.740 --> 01:16:11.740]  I didn't want him indicted.
[01:16:11.740 --> 01:16:15.740]  I wanted him to change his policies.
[01:16:15.740 --> 01:16:31.740]  And we just had someone, this is four or five years ago, had somebody last year went down to a foreclosure hearing where he had a restraining order in place and they foreclosed anyway.
[01:16:31.740 --> 01:16:41.740]  So, I'm sorry, that wasn't the reason he went to file some documents with the county court and the county court and refused to file them.
[01:16:41.740 --> 01:16:46.740]  So, I tell him just go to the sheriff's department and file a criminal charges.
[01:16:46.740 --> 01:16:51.740]  Hang on, I'll explain what happened when I come back and this is why we do what we do.
[01:16:51.740 --> 01:17:00.740]  They changed things. We'll be right back. This is Randy Kelton, Steve's kid in the order. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:24.740 --> 01:19:53.740]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Rubella Radio and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:19:53.740 --> 01:20:08.740]  Okay, what happened in Johnson County? See, the grand jury just know building and then Larry filed these documents with the clerk and they refused to accept it.
[01:20:08.740 --> 01:20:12.740]  He called me, I said, call the Sheriff's Department, filed charges against her.
[01:20:12.740 --> 01:20:18.740]  So he did and went down the Sheriff's Department and filed. He said he wanted to file criminal charges against the clerk.
[01:20:18.740 --> 01:20:24.740]  They said we'll get one for you. They got a lieutenant, they go in and set down.
[01:20:24.740 --> 01:20:29.740]  He gives him the complaint. Nine o'clock the next morning, that clerk's calling him.
[01:20:29.740 --> 01:20:37.740]  There was been a mistake. If you'll come down here, we will file those records immediately.
[01:20:37.740 --> 01:20:48.740]  What happened was, is the prosecuting attorney said, I do not want this crapola happening to me again.
[01:20:48.740 --> 01:20:55.740]  And what happened in Johnson County is I set him up so I could do this to him.
[01:20:55.740 --> 01:21:01.740]  I went down to the Sheriff's Office and Department and I wanted to see the morning rain that's here.
[01:21:01.740 --> 01:21:10.740]  Oh, you can't see that. We hold that deep in the jail and you'll be a security risk. No problem. Hold it somewhere else. I want to watch.
[01:21:10.740 --> 01:21:19.740]  And this poor lieutenant I was talking to, he said, well, I'm sorry, you can't see that here. And I said, don't tell me that.
[01:21:19.740 --> 01:21:23.740]  Well, I have to tell you that. Now, go get the judge to tell me that.
[01:21:23.740 --> 01:21:30.740]  So, okay, he goes in the back, come out, said the judge said, this is her courtroom and you're not coming in it.
[01:21:30.740 --> 01:21:38.740]  Lieutenant, you need to advise this judge that she is mistaken. This is my courtroom.
[01:21:38.740 --> 01:21:46.740]  He said, well, you're not going to be able to watch the hearing. I said, well, okay, but you know, you've been pretty decent and easy to get along with.
[01:21:46.740 --> 01:21:54.740]  I just thought it's appropriate that I tell you that I may be making some really ugly sounding criminal accusations against you.
[01:21:54.740 --> 01:21:58.740]  But don't worry about it. I'm not after you.
[01:21:58.740 --> 01:22:02.740]  Oh, you're going to be filing criminal charges against me and you're not after me.
[01:22:02.740 --> 01:22:08.740]  Well, who are you after? Oh, I'm after the district judge. Well, then why are you filing against me?
[01:22:08.740 --> 01:22:11.740]  Oh, well, you're convenient.
[01:22:11.740 --> 01:22:16.740]  So that is convenient.
[01:22:16.740 --> 01:22:19.740]  What's he going to do with me?
[01:22:19.740 --> 01:22:22.740]  I don't care about him.
[01:22:22.740 --> 01:22:28.740]  And I'm fixing to screw up his career and I don't even care.
[01:22:28.740 --> 01:22:33.740]  So how's he going to argue with me? How's he going to convince me not to do this?
[01:22:33.740 --> 01:22:36.740]  I'm just stepping on him to get somebody else.
[01:22:36.740 --> 01:22:40.740]  And I did what I said. I filed with the district attorney.
[01:22:40.740 --> 01:22:43.740]  The district attorney refused to give to the grand jury.
[01:22:43.740 --> 01:22:55.740]  So I came down to the court when the grand jury was handing in the indictments.
[01:22:55.740 --> 01:23:04.740]  And Johnson County, they actually did it right. They convened a hearing with a quorum of the grand jury present, just like the statute says.
[01:23:04.740 --> 01:23:09.740]  And the foreman read all of the indictments onto the record.
[01:23:09.740 --> 01:23:17.740]  And when they were finished, the judge said, does the foreman or does the grand jury have any further business?
[01:23:17.740 --> 01:23:25.740]  And the foreman said, no, your honor, we do not. And I stood up in the courtroom and said, yes, you do.
[01:23:25.740 --> 01:23:28.740]  They all kind of froze for a minute.
[01:23:28.740 --> 01:23:33.740]  And the bailiff's all went for their pistols, but nobody pulled them.
[01:23:33.740 --> 01:23:37.740]  And then the judge looked at me and said, who are you? I said, I'm Randy Kelly.
[01:23:37.740 --> 01:23:40.740]  And what business do you have with this grand jury?
[01:23:40.740 --> 01:23:47.740]  At that point, I could have told the judge I have business with this grand jury and it's none of yours.
[01:23:47.740 --> 01:23:50.740]  But I had plans for the judge.
[01:23:50.740 --> 01:23:56.740]  I said, well, your honor, I have some criminal complaints filed against some public officials.
[01:23:56.740 --> 01:23:58.740]  And just what officials are those?
[01:23:58.740 --> 01:24:06.740]  Well, a prosecutor and the assistant prosecutor was sitting there and they're just kind of ducking their heads, wishing they were somewhere else.
[01:24:06.740 --> 01:24:08.740]  They know.
[01:24:08.740 --> 01:24:15.740]  I said, well, I've got complaints against this prosecutor's district attorney here and this assistant district attorney.
[01:24:15.740 --> 01:24:20.740]  And I pointed up at the judge and you judge.
[01:24:20.740 --> 01:24:25.740]  And the judge just froze in his tracks.
[01:24:25.740 --> 01:24:29.740]  He's sitting there looking at me and I know what he's thinking.
[01:24:29.740 --> 01:24:34.740]  I can't believe you just bushwacked me in front of my own grand jury.
[01:24:34.740 --> 01:24:36.740]  Right. He just froze.
[01:24:36.740 --> 01:24:38.740]  I said, wait a minute.
[01:24:38.740 --> 01:24:42.740]  And I said, your honor, I have business with this grand jury.
[01:24:42.740 --> 01:24:45.740]  And he just sat there and finally heck with him.
[01:24:45.740 --> 01:24:51.740]  I just turned to the grand jury and I said to the foreman, oh, I apologize for having to approach you this way.
[01:24:51.740 --> 01:24:58.740]  But I had a really minor complaint to file to the prosecuting attorney and he refused to do his duty.
[01:24:58.740 --> 01:25:01.740]  He started out with a minor complaint and I picked up a two inch file.
[01:25:01.740 --> 01:25:07.740]  And now it's grown into this just because they won't do their job.
[01:25:07.740 --> 01:25:17.740]  So I want you to give me the opportunity to make it known to you that crimes have been committed.
[01:25:17.740 --> 01:25:22.740]  The long upshot of it is I actually presented him to the grand jury.
[01:25:22.740 --> 01:25:25.740]  The grand jury, no building.
[01:25:25.740 --> 01:25:35.740]  But after all that was over with, you know, he had to, you know, the foreman, when I presented this to the grand jury, the foreman was just irate.
[01:25:35.740 --> 01:25:42.740]  And he asked me, you know, why are you having acts to grind with the prosecuting attorney?
[01:25:42.740 --> 01:25:45.740]  I said, I don't. He's never prosecuted me.
[01:25:45.740 --> 01:25:47.740]  He's never prosecuted anybody I know.
[01:25:47.740 --> 01:25:49.740]  He's never done anything to me.
[01:25:49.740 --> 01:25:51.740]  Well, why are you here?
[01:25:51.740 --> 01:25:54.740]  I said, well, he committed a crime.
[01:25:54.740 --> 01:25:57.740]  And I'm just reporting it.
[01:25:57.740 --> 01:25:59.740]  I don't want him indicted.
[01:25:59.740 --> 01:26:03.740]  Well, if you don't want him indicted, why are you here?
[01:26:03.740 --> 01:26:13.740]  I said, well, because I'm here and he's out there wondering if you're going to end his career tomorrow.
[01:26:13.740 --> 01:26:15.740]  That's all I need.
[01:26:15.740 --> 01:26:19.740]  I just want him to follow law.
[01:26:19.740 --> 01:26:22.740]  Well, they know building.
[01:26:22.740 --> 01:26:31.740]  But the next time I sent somebody down there to file a criminal complaint against the public official, there was no BS of any kind.
[01:26:31.740 --> 01:26:39.740]  I'm sure that prosecutor went to the sheriff and said, look, this ain't going to happen to me again.
[01:26:39.740 --> 01:26:46.740]  If you get somebody coming down here filing the complaint, you take that complaint and you act on it.
[01:26:46.740 --> 01:26:48.740]  That was perfect.
[01:26:48.740 --> 01:26:53.740]  That's how this works, and it really does work.
[01:26:53.740 --> 01:26:56.740]  I'm in Wise County, Texas.
[01:26:56.740 --> 01:27:07.740]  And in Wise County, Texas, if you get arrested, the Sheriff's Department will take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:27:07.740 --> 01:27:10.740]  They won't pass, go, they won't take you to jail.
[01:27:10.740 --> 01:27:12.740]  They'll take you to the nearest magistrate.
[01:27:12.740 --> 01:27:20.740]  As far as I know, the only Sheriff's Department in the state of Texas does that.
[01:27:20.740 --> 01:27:31.740]  And when the sheriff ran for office the first time I ran against him, and I ran out of money in the primary and backed out of the race and voted for him.
[01:27:31.740 --> 01:27:36.740]  When he got into office, he was 26 years old.
[01:27:36.740 --> 01:27:42.740]  When he got into office, I bet I had 50 people come to me complaining about the Sheriff's Department.
[01:27:42.740 --> 01:27:53.740]  Once he got into office, I have not heard one complaint about the Wise County Sheriff's Department.
[01:27:53.740 --> 01:28:02.740]  And I've talked to a number of the sheriff's deputies having an issue with my family with a divorce issue, and they're calling the police all the time.
[01:28:02.740 --> 01:28:11.740]  These police are surprisingly professional, very polite, very careful.
[01:28:11.740 --> 01:28:25.740]  And I'm looking at that, and that's because these guys know if they arrest somebody, they got to take them directly to the nearest magistrate and explain themselves.
[01:28:25.740 --> 01:28:35.740]  And they don't want to be taking somebody down there who's going to give the judge an earful about this cop's bad attitude.
[01:28:35.740 --> 01:28:42.740]  This absolutely makes the Sheriff's Department self-regulating.
[01:28:42.740 --> 01:28:49.740]  But they did this because I filed criminal charges against all the JPs in Wise County.
[01:28:49.740 --> 01:28:51.740]  I made a big stink about it.
[01:28:51.740 --> 01:28:56.740]  And so they changed the policy, and it has worked extremely well.
[01:28:56.740 --> 01:29:00.740]  So all we really wanted to do was change policy.
[01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:03.740]  And we don't need anybody indicted.
[01:29:03.740 --> 01:29:11.740]  And Mark, I guarantee you the one problem you will have with this is the same problem you had with...
[01:29:11.740 --> 01:29:15.740]  Are you the one that did the credit cards?
[01:29:15.740 --> 01:29:17.740]  Not yet.
[01:29:17.740 --> 01:29:21.740]  Okay, I got two marks in Wisconsin.
[01:29:21.740 --> 01:29:23.740]  You probably think of the mark in Madison.
[01:29:23.740 --> 01:29:26.740]  Madison, exactly. Okay, you're not in Madison.
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[01:33:54.740 --> 01:33:57.740]  OK. We are back. Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore.
[01:33:57.740 --> 01:34:00.740]  We live on radio and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:34:00.740 --> 01:34:06.740]  And about when you start filing criminal complaints,
[01:34:06.740 --> 01:34:14.740]  it's a whole different venue that you're entering into.
[01:34:14.740 --> 01:34:21.740]  You come in as the master invoking the duty of the servants.
[01:34:21.740 --> 01:34:24.740]  And your whole perspective changes.
[01:34:24.740 --> 01:34:29.740]  That's when I was talking to this officer and he said he wasn't going to take a complaint
[01:34:29.740 --> 01:34:34.740]  because what I was complaining of didn't happen to me.
[01:34:34.740 --> 01:34:37.740]  So you're not going to take my complaint.
[01:34:37.740 --> 01:34:42.740]  He said no I'm not. You're dismissed. I'm done with you. You can go.
[01:34:42.740 --> 01:34:45.740]  And he stood there with his shocked look on his face.
[01:34:45.740 --> 01:34:48.740]  Like he couldn't believe I just said that to him.
[01:34:48.740 --> 01:34:55.740]  And he just stood there so I said I told you I'm done with you. Beat it.
[01:34:55.740 --> 01:34:58.740]  And he's thinking you know what do I do?
[01:34:58.740 --> 01:35:01.740]  I want to choke this guy.
[01:35:01.740 --> 01:35:04.740]  But he's the one that called me.
[01:35:04.740 --> 01:35:08.740]  But now he's dismissing me like an errant stepchild.
[01:35:08.740 --> 01:35:14.740]  And then he took off in a huff and I said hold on just a second. Card.
[01:35:14.740 --> 01:35:18.740]  He said we're done. No we're not done. Card.
[01:35:18.740 --> 01:35:21.740]  I want his business card.
[01:35:21.740 --> 01:35:24.740]  He said I'm not going to give it to you. Then name.
[01:35:24.740 --> 01:35:27.740]  And he turns around and I get his name.
[01:35:27.740 --> 01:35:31.740]  He jumps in his car and slams the door and takes off.
[01:35:31.740 --> 01:35:35.740]  That was so much fun.
[01:35:35.740 --> 01:35:38.740]  You haven't lived until you've done that once.
[01:35:38.740 --> 01:35:42.740]  And the policemen need that.
[01:35:42.740 --> 01:35:52.740]  The courts need to find out who the meanest motor scooter in the place is.
[01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:56.740]  You know I tell people when I walk into the courthouse I am the baddest motor scooter
[01:35:56.740 --> 01:35:59.740]  in the building.
[01:35:59.740 --> 01:36:04.740]  And there is only one reason I'm the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[01:36:04.740 --> 01:36:07.740]  And that's because I'm nobody.
[01:36:07.740 --> 01:36:15.740]  I'm not a prosecutor. I'm not a bailiff or a sheriff's deputy or a judge or a lawyer.
[01:36:15.740 --> 01:36:19.740]  I am the master.
[01:36:19.740 --> 01:36:24.740]  All of these other guys are my servants.
[01:36:24.740 --> 01:36:28.740]  They may be your servants too but they're mine.
[01:36:28.740 --> 01:36:32.740]  And they answer to me and if you don't believe you answer to me
[01:36:32.740 --> 01:36:36.740]  just step across one of my legal lines.
[01:36:36.740 --> 01:36:42.740]  And I'll give you a romp through the judicial system you're not going to believe
[01:36:42.740 --> 01:36:49.740]  if we can get two or three people in every county with this perspective.
[01:36:49.740 --> 01:36:51.740]  And taking these guys on this way.
[01:36:51.740 --> 01:36:57.740]  These problems we're having they'll just go away.
[01:36:57.740 --> 01:37:05.740]  It goes to the one thing that you gotta get to know what you're trying to achieve.
[01:37:05.740 --> 01:37:07.740]  It goes to accountability.
[01:37:07.740 --> 01:37:10.740]  Yeah. Outcomes.
[01:37:10.740 --> 01:37:13.740]  What is your intended outcome?
[01:37:13.740 --> 01:37:18.740]  My intended outcome in this case is to place every judge in the country
[01:37:18.740 --> 01:37:23.740]  in a position such that when they step up behind the bench
[01:37:23.740 --> 01:37:28.740]  look out across the bar at the gallery I want them wondering which one.
[01:37:28.740 --> 01:37:34.740]  Which one of those scoundrels sitting out there are waiting for me to do something in this court
[01:37:34.740 --> 01:37:40.740]  so they can run down to the grand jury and try to get me indicted.
[01:37:40.740 --> 01:37:43.740]  That will change everything.
[01:37:43.740 --> 01:37:48.740]  So Mark if you've got some complaints you can file
[01:37:48.740 --> 01:37:55.740]  and the more piddling and nitpicking the better.
[01:37:55.740 --> 01:37:58.740]  I will keep that in mind.
[01:37:58.740 --> 01:38:02.740]  Now maybe Mr. Skidmore can comment on this.
[01:38:02.740 --> 01:38:08.740]  You know these things that are going on we have in real estate the idea of adverse possession
[01:38:08.740 --> 01:38:16.740]  or you have that Supreme Court case where they said yeah we really don't care that the IRS
[01:38:16.740 --> 01:38:22.740]  wasn't ratified properly it's been treated like it is so we're going to treat it that way.
[01:38:22.740 --> 01:38:29.740]  Is there anything that actually is codified in law that if this has been going on forever
[01:38:29.740 --> 01:38:35.740]  i.e. the perjury in the court we're just going to treat it as okay?
[01:38:35.740 --> 01:38:38.740]  Hall v. State.
[01:38:38.740 --> 01:38:40.740]  I think it's an Ohio case.
[01:38:40.740 --> 01:38:44.740]  The only one I could find that went directly to that.
[01:38:44.740 --> 01:38:53.740]  And it said that a policy no matter how long it's been in place
[01:38:53.740 --> 01:38:58.740]  if it is not legal it never takes on...
[01:38:58.740 --> 01:39:06.740]  I'm sorry it said that a policy long entrenched may take on the appearance of law
[01:39:06.740 --> 01:39:11.740]  but it never takes on the authority of law.
[01:39:11.740 --> 01:39:14.740]  Wonderful.
[01:39:14.740 --> 01:39:16.740]  Did that answer your question?
[01:39:16.740 --> 01:39:19.740]  That answers that.
[01:39:19.740 --> 01:39:23.740]  That's the best answer I could come up with.
[01:39:23.740 --> 01:39:28.740]  I'm sitting here taking notes myself. What state?
[01:39:28.740 --> 01:39:30.740]  We say Hall v. State.
[01:39:30.740 --> 01:39:33.740]  I think it was an Ohio case.
[01:39:33.740 --> 01:39:39.740]  It was a state case and it was the only one I could find that went directly to that issue.
[01:39:39.740 --> 01:39:43.740]  And it was dead on.
[01:39:43.740 --> 01:39:50.740]  Okay on the venue issue Mr. Kelton I did try that with the 968 in Wisconsin
[01:39:50.740 --> 01:39:56.740]  where I went to an entirely different county and you know the judge for reading
[01:39:56.740 --> 01:40:00.740]  not signing my paperwork said oh it happened in a different county.
[01:40:00.740 --> 01:40:06.740]  And the other thing is I mentioned previously the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
[01:40:06.740 --> 01:40:12.740]  Article 8, everyone has the right to an effective remedy by competent national tribunals for action.
[01:40:12.740 --> 01:40:14.740]  Wait, wait, stop, stop.
[01:40:14.740 --> 01:40:21.740]  Okay, wait a minute, what is the legal authority of this document?
[01:40:21.740 --> 01:40:24.740]  Well this is where it gets fun.
[01:40:24.740 --> 01:40:31.740]  Category approach to human rights just cognize as a limit on enforcement abstract
[01:40:31.740 --> 01:40:38.740]  since the Second Circuit's 1980 decision in Flagrata versus Pena, Irelia, whatever.
[01:40:38.740 --> 01:40:40.740]  I've emailed you this Mr. Kelton.
[01:40:40.740 --> 01:40:45.740]  Federal courts have recognized violations of international human rights may be pursued
[01:40:45.740 --> 01:40:50.740]  under the Alien Tort Claims Act and the Torture Victims Protection Act.
[01:40:50.740 --> 01:40:55.740]  In addition, the courts have accepted an expanding list of prohibited contact may serve as a basis for these allegations.
[01:40:55.740 --> 01:41:03.740]  However, it's emerged a series of suggestions and not the holding remedy provided by the Alien Tort Claim Act.
[01:41:03.740 --> 01:41:13.740]  Okay, stop. This is like an Alien Tort Claim. I get the impression from hearing this that there is a context involved
[01:41:13.740 --> 01:41:18.740]  that includes someone not a citizen.
[01:41:18.740 --> 01:41:25.740]  Possibly. I've just come across this and I need to do my own research.
[01:41:25.740 --> 01:41:36.740]  Is this a law review? Is this a court decision? What are we looking at here?
[01:41:36.740 --> 01:41:45.740]  What I'm looking at is the abstract. I just started looking at this and just found this Second Circuit.
[01:41:45.740 --> 01:41:56.740]  The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was never ratified as a federal treaty so it does not have the color of the Constitution.
[01:41:56.740 --> 01:42:05.740]  In the power of the Constitution. It was explicitly never ratified because they didn't want these things to have the power of the Constitution.
[01:42:05.740 --> 01:42:18.740]  But I haven't looked in the Alien Tort Claims Act. But there may be a rabbit hole there that might have some rabbits at the bottom if you're a rabbit hunting.
[01:42:18.740 --> 01:42:21.740]  We're all rabbit hunting.
[01:42:21.740 --> 01:42:32.740]  I thought so. So that might be fun is the Alien Tort Claim Act for the violation of, as I said, number eight here.
[01:42:32.740 --> 01:42:41.740]  Everyone has a right to effectively remove the competent national tribunals for acts and violating the fundamental rights granted him by the Constitution or by law.
[01:42:41.740 --> 01:42:58.740]  There is case law that says that the Constitutional rights are not just accorded to citizens but anyone within the boundaries of the jurisdiction.
[01:42:58.740 --> 01:43:03.740]  That's probably what the Alien Tort Claims Act goes to.
[01:43:03.740 --> 01:43:20.740]  It says that an alien, even though they're not a citizen, can sue for violation of human rights just by the fact of being here.
[01:43:20.740 --> 01:43:26.740]  I suspect this particular one is going to be specific to aliens.
[01:43:26.740 --> 01:43:33.740]  Yeah, I haven't really looked in and I just started looking to see what was there.
[01:43:33.740 --> 01:43:37.740]  But I'll let you guys go so you can move on to your next caller.
[01:43:37.740 --> 01:43:39.740]  Okay, thank you.
[01:43:39.740 --> 01:43:41.740]  Thank you, Mark.
[01:43:41.740 --> 01:43:45.740]  I hear the music in the background was not run off the cliff or two of us.
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[01:46:21.740 --> 01:46:32.740]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:32.740 --> 01:46:38.740]  We're going to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:46:38.740 --> 01:46:42.740]  Hello Danny, how is your issue going down there in Hubeyland?
[01:46:42.740 --> 01:46:59.740]  Well, it's okay so far, but I was calling in to tell a little story with some humor for some paperwork kind of based off ideas that you've gotten over about the processes and when you're not falling into process.
[01:46:59.740 --> 01:47:02.740]  Regalus.
[01:47:02.740 --> 01:47:12.740]  Yeah, well, I put together some paperwork mostly for traffic tickets, but it could be good for some other things too.
[01:47:12.740 --> 01:47:21.740]  And the first one, I titled it Notice of Process from Citation to Arrangement.
[01:47:21.740 --> 01:47:36.740]  I'm going through all those steps of the code of current procedure, what they should be doing, and all those steps, including just highlights, maybe not everything, the things that they are always leaving out and skipping over.
[01:47:36.740 --> 01:47:51.740]  And then when you go for your first hearing, which folks be before the magistrate, according to the transportation code, and that's not what they're doing, and then they prove to you that they're not going to do that, then a second piece of paper did.
[01:47:51.740 --> 01:48:07.740]  I'm going to say what I titled it, Notice of Lack of Court Jurisdiction due to failure of the magistrate to complete his duties and pointing out the things that the magistrate hadn't done and things that are not in the record that should be there now if he had done them.
[01:48:07.740 --> 01:48:22.740]  And so I had somebody, you know, knew about this, and he got the tickets a while back, so he was using this, and DPS out someplace.
[01:48:22.740 --> 01:48:38.740]  He had to take it and go to some JP there, and he thought she was a new one, but he never actually saw her. I don't think he ended up going to the courthouse two or three times, but they got him in the courtroom.
[01:48:38.740 --> 01:48:44.740]  So he's always dealing with the clerk, the clerk kind of yelling back to the judge and stuff, it seemed like.
[01:48:44.740 --> 01:48:56.740]  Anyway, she was kind of confused about things, and one thing or another, and then things were popped for a while, and he gets this letter saying that his case had been moved to another court.
[01:48:56.740 --> 01:49:02.740]  Well, before that, he got word that they had, and he called me up and said that, and I said, well, that sounds kind of strange on reason.
[01:49:02.740 --> 01:49:10.740]  I think it would be proper as if they had taken it to the wrong court in the first place, but I don't much think that that would have happened.
[01:49:10.740 --> 01:49:17.740]  But when he got the letter in, that's basically what it was saying, that it was originally filed in their own court.
[01:49:17.740 --> 01:49:32.740]  So, you know, same paperwork in that new court, but then I got to looking over things, and the DPS ticket, one of those machine-generated tickets that got the little strip.
[01:49:32.740 --> 01:49:34.740]  Computer generated, yeah.
[01:49:34.740 --> 01:49:39.740]  Yeah, it printed out the GPS coordinates on the ticket.
[01:49:39.740 --> 01:49:41.740]  So, that sounded like it.
[01:49:41.740 --> 01:49:44.740]  So, let's find out if it was the wrong court.
[01:49:44.740 --> 01:50:00.740]  So, along with the paperwork, sent a cover letter that's going to get a copy of the order transferring the case to the other court, and a map of the county showing the precinct back piece.
[01:50:00.740 --> 01:50:13.740]  And this location, you know, the citation. So, it was quiet for a good long while, and he called me up one day and said, well, he got a letter saying his case had been dismissed.
[01:50:13.740 --> 01:50:20.740]  So, he got dismissed without ever going in the courtroom.
[01:50:20.740 --> 01:50:25.740]  So, you caught him for nagging with the details?
[01:50:25.740 --> 01:50:28.740]  Yeah, I think so.
[01:50:28.740 --> 01:50:42.740]  And they probably said, you know, if somebody knows to go to this kind of detail, then we're going to have a real problem with them.
[01:50:42.740 --> 01:50:46.740]  But that is a good idea. I hadn't thought about that.
[01:50:46.740 --> 01:51:02.740]  We go in and we expect the courts to do certain things, and it hadn't occurred to me to give them judicial notice of the law at issue and the procedures required by statute.
[01:51:02.740 --> 01:51:19.740]  Yeah, that second one, I accused the magistrate of being the one that failed to do things, to kind of take it off the judge, even though that's the one who's actually been the problem, and he didn't do the magistrate jobs in the first place.
[01:51:19.740 --> 01:51:28.740]  Yeah, well, the judge cannot accrue jurisdiction until the magistrate's done his job.
[01:51:28.740 --> 01:51:32.740]  Yeah, that was the point of the second one.
[01:51:32.740 --> 01:51:45.740]  So, it's basically a two-step process. One, you tell them ahead of time what the process is, and you're waiting for it to be done, and then when they show you that you're not going to do it, then the second one, tell them that they don't have jurisdiction.
[01:51:45.740 --> 01:51:58.740]  Oh, and the last thing there, I kind of suggest that the prosecutor can ask for the case to be dismissed, because that's in the Code of Crown Procedure.
[01:51:58.740 --> 01:51:59.740]  Nice.
[01:51:59.740 --> 01:52:06.740]  Let me get how you were getting to the court that didn't have jurisdiction.
[01:52:06.740 --> 01:52:30.740]  The way I read the code, the first hearing is sometimes called an arraignment, but it can't be an arraignment, because an arraignment is held by the court of jurisdiction for the purpose of identifying a defendant and taking a plea.
[01:52:30.740 --> 01:52:40.740]  Well, the trial court can't get jurisdiction until some magistrate has made a determination of probable cause.
[01:52:40.740 --> 01:53:07.740]  Now, it might be the same magistrate who will also be a judge in the case, but there has to be a determination of probable cause, an order written under Chapter 16.17 stating whether the person was bound to their liberty, or released to their liberty, bound over to the court, released on bail, or whatever the disposition was.
[01:53:07.740 --> 01:53:22.740]  And then all of the documents under 1730 are required to be sealed up in an envelope with the name of the judge's name written across the seal of the envelope and forwarded to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[01:53:22.740 --> 01:53:30.740]  The magistrate has jurisdiction based on a complaint to hold an examining trial.
[01:53:30.740 --> 01:53:45.740]  Once probable cause is determined, the magistrate then seals up all the documentation, forwards it to the clerk of jurisdiction, and that's how the court of jurisdiction gets subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:53:45.740 --> 01:53:47.740]  Now, they can hold an arraignment.
[01:53:47.740 --> 01:53:49.740]  No, that's not quite what it says.
[01:53:49.740 --> 01:53:53.740]  It says the clerk of the proper court, I think, is what it says.
[01:53:53.740 --> 01:53:54.740]  Yeah, the proper court.
[01:53:54.740 --> 01:53:57.740]  That would be the court of competent jurisdiction, yeah.
[01:53:57.740 --> 01:54:02.740]  And 1731 identifies those clerks.
[01:54:02.740 --> 01:54:14.740]  1731 says, unless they've changed it, the clerk shall keep all these papers safe and deliver them up to the next grand jury.
[01:54:14.740 --> 01:54:15.740]  That's right, it has changed.
[01:54:15.740 --> 01:54:19.740]  I think the last time I read it, it did identify.
[01:54:19.740 --> 01:54:22.740]  Do you have that in front of you?
[01:54:22.740 --> 01:54:26.740]  No, but it wasn't too long that I looked at it.
[01:54:26.740 --> 01:54:32.740]  I read it a few days ago, but I slept since then.
[01:54:32.740 --> 01:54:42.740]  Yeah, the district clerk to give it over to the next grand jury and the county clerk to give it immediately to the attorney for the state.
[01:54:42.740 --> 01:54:44.740]  That's right.
[01:54:44.740 --> 01:54:56.740]  And then, you know, once the district judge gets an indictment for which a court has no jurisdiction, he's to transfer it to a court that would have jurisdiction for trial.
[01:54:56.740 --> 01:54:58.740]  And if...
[01:54:58.740 --> 01:55:02.740]  Was the first court according to the GPS?
[01:55:02.740 --> 01:55:04.740]  I'm sorry.
[01:55:04.740 --> 01:55:06.740]  That's in 1730?
[01:55:06.740 --> 01:55:08.740]  At 31?
[01:55:08.740 --> 01:55:12.740]  Well, the two clerks is in 1731.
[01:55:12.740 --> 01:55:15.740]  Oh, it's 20.
[01:55:15.740 --> 01:55:18.740]  Well, I forgot the number now.
[01:55:18.740 --> 01:55:30.740]  Okay, did you hear my argument earlier about taking a grand jury, taking a complaint to a grand jury and a different jurisdiction?
[01:55:30.740 --> 01:55:32.740]  Yeah, I believe so.
[01:55:32.740 --> 01:55:37.740]  That's such it goes right to it.
[01:55:37.740 --> 01:55:46.740]  How would the district judge get an indictment over which he does not have jurisdiction?
[01:55:46.740 --> 01:55:56.740]  Because the indictments come back to the district court and the indictment for a misdemeanor, the district court does not have jurisdiction for trial.
[01:55:56.740 --> 01:56:01.740]  There are no indictments for misdemeanors anymore.
[01:56:01.740 --> 01:56:07.740]  The misdemeanor would go to the clerk, go to the prosecuting attorney with no indictment.
[01:56:07.740 --> 01:56:13.740]  Well, if the judge has an indictment, it's going to be a felony.
[01:56:13.740 --> 01:56:22.740]  Well, that's the way they've been doing it, but it's all still there in the Code of Criminal Procedure and the Constitution, Article 5, Section 17, the Constitution.
[01:56:22.740 --> 01:56:32.740]  You know, the Constitution says that, but the statute, they've changed the statutes until the statute is overturned with statute gobbles.
[01:56:32.740 --> 01:56:46.740]  So before I'm going is if there are no indictments for misdemeanors and there is a statute in there that says if the judge receives an indictment over which he doesn't have subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:56:46.740 --> 01:56:51.740]  he's to remand it to the court that does have jurisdiction.
[01:56:51.740 --> 01:57:01.740]  It indicates that the legislature anticipated that a grand jury from another jurisdiction can hear a complaint from this jurisdiction.
[01:57:01.740 --> 01:57:11.740]  So if I can't get to the grand jury in Tarrant County, I can take it to Travis County.
[01:57:11.740 --> 01:57:13.740]  Does that make sense, Stanley?
[01:57:13.740 --> 01:57:28.740]  Well, I read that because under that part where he's talking about the judge transferring the case, it's also got a section about if it's a case that would go to a JP court.
[01:57:28.740 --> 01:57:44.740]  Then if there's something in the papers he's got that shows that it should go to some particular one like an outlying district for more convenience for everyone, then he can transfer there rather than one that's in the county seat.
[01:57:44.740 --> 01:57:51.740]  Okay, that's anticipating that they're following Constitution yet.
[01:57:51.740 --> 01:57:52.740]  Yeah.
[01:57:52.740 --> 01:57:57.740]  Where everything got an indictment.
[01:57:57.740 --> 01:58:00.740]  I don't think I have enough time to look that up and tell it to you.
[01:58:00.740 --> 01:58:02.740]  Okay, maybe we can do that next time.
[01:58:02.740 --> 01:58:04.740]  Yeah, we're about out of time.
[01:58:04.740 --> 01:58:06.740]  We've got about 40 seconds.
[01:58:06.740 --> 01:58:10.740]  But thanks, that's a good idea, Danny.
[01:58:10.740 --> 01:58:11.740]  Okay.
[01:58:11.740 --> 01:58:14.740]  Can you send me a copy of that?
[01:58:14.740 --> 01:58:16.740]  Okay.
[01:58:16.740 --> 01:58:18.740]  Okay, I'd sure like to look at that.
[01:58:18.740 --> 01:58:20.740]  Okay, thanks a lot for calling.
[01:58:20.740 --> 01:58:22.740]  This is Randy Kelton.
[01:58:22.740 --> 01:58:27.740]  Please kid more, read my radio.
[01:58:27.740 --> 01:58:34.740]  This is the end of our four hour info marathon, but Ada Craig will be back Monday at eight o'clock and we'll be back next week, Thursday.
[01:58:34.740 --> 01:58:38.740]  I'd like to thank Leslie and PA for stopping by.
[01:58:38.740 --> 01:58:41.740]  Oh, definitely Leslie and PA.
[01:58:41.740 --> 01:58:43.740]  Thank you, Leslie.
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