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[03:26.560 --> 03:32.680]  Okay, howdy, howdy, this is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Lula Blau Radio.
[03:32.680 --> 03:38.240]  And tonight, we're here with a very special guest we haven't had on in a long time, and
[03:38.240 --> 03:39.240]  Craig.
[03:39.240 --> 03:41.400]  Good evening, everybody.
[03:41.400 --> 03:47.160]  On this July the 10th, 2014, and Eddie, it's been a long time since you've been on the
[03:47.160 --> 03:53.920]  show, and I know you've been doing massive amounts of research, will you kind of bring
[03:53.920 --> 03:57.360]  this up to speed on what you've got going?
[03:57.360 --> 04:02.360]  Well, a lot of what I've been doing lately is I'm trying to get a second book completed,
[04:02.360 --> 04:09.080]  dealing with the full-blown due process side of things, basically a step-by-step procedure
[04:09.080 --> 04:14.400]  on how to fight your cases in court, whether it's traffic or pretty much any type of misdemeanor
[04:14.400 --> 04:16.640]  case.
[04:16.640 --> 04:22.040]  As both of us know full well, the courts very rarely follow the rules that even they put
[04:22.040 --> 04:27.040]  in place to have to abide by it, much less what the legislature puts in place for them.
[04:27.040 --> 04:32.240]  So I've spent an awful lot of time trying to collect those thoughts in the documents,
[04:32.240 --> 04:37.680]  and now I'm trying to get them formatted into a book to go step-by-step through this process,
[04:37.680 --> 04:42.800]  things to look out for, case law, basically everything that we need to back up what we're
[04:42.800 --> 04:49.840]  doing so we can finally, hopefully, turn the tide back to flowing where it should.
[04:49.840 --> 04:59.120]  Well, can you kind of give us an idea, kind of a synopsis of how we should think about,
[04:59.120 --> 05:03.040]  say, a misdemeanor criminal prosecution?
[05:03.040 --> 05:09.200]  Well, as far as how you should think about it, the first thing you have to consider is
[05:09.200 --> 05:16.400]  the fact that you're going to enter into this not knowing how the game is played unless
[05:16.400 --> 05:18.760]  you actually put forth some time and effort to study it.
[05:18.760 --> 05:23.280]  So the first thing you've got to understand about what to understand is there are rules
[05:23.280 --> 05:25.600]  involved and you need to be familiar with them.
[05:25.600 --> 05:29.800]  It doesn't matter whether you have an attorney or you're doing this yourself, you need to
[05:29.800 --> 05:31.680]  be familiar with the rules.
[05:31.680 --> 05:37.320]  The rules is what protects you and what allows you to fight back.
[05:37.320 --> 05:39.600]  Without them, you're at their mercy.
[05:39.600 --> 05:44.520]  And when you rely on just your attorney's knowledge of the rules, then you don't know
[05:44.520 --> 05:52.440]  when the attorney is actually trying to put one over on you either because the attorney,
[05:52.440 --> 05:56.400]  most people make the mistake of believing their attorney is on their side.
[05:56.400 --> 05:58.800]  That's absolutely not true.
[05:58.800 --> 06:03.000]  And especially in these lower types of court cases where the attorney gets a fixed amount
[06:03.000 --> 06:07.960]  of money and all this kind of stuff where it's not really altogether profitable for
[06:07.960 --> 06:12.600]  him to take time and effort into actually defending you.
[06:12.600 --> 06:17.600]  And if he does that, then the courts will get wind of it and they will basically bar
[06:17.600 --> 06:22.320]  him from being called and thus cut into his income ability.
[06:22.320 --> 06:24.000]  It's very much a rigged system.
[06:24.000 --> 06:27.960]  So that's the first thing you need to keep in mind about it.
[06:27.960 --> 06:32.320]  Secondly, pay attention to everything.
[06:32.320 --> 06:37.720]  There's a rule that I teach in my Sunday classes down at Brave New Books, which is listen to
[06:37.720 --> 06:39.720]  what you hear.
[06:39.720 --> 06:42.400]  Don't just hear what's going on around you.
[06:42.400 --> 06:48.360]  Listen carefully because only by listening are you going to process, only by processing
[06:48.360 --> 06:53.600]  you're going to analyze, and only by analyzing can you understand.
[06:53.600 --> 07:01.360]  And without that series of events there, then you're basically just hearing all this stuff,
[07:01.360 --> 07:04.400]  but you have no clue what's actually going on.
[07:04.400 --> 07:05.840]  You're pretty familiar with this process.
[07:05.840 --> 07:07.400]  You've been through it more than once yourself.
[07:07.400 --> 07:11.200]  Yeah, I have been through it a time or two.
[07:11.200 --> 07:13.480]  And that's absolutely right.
[07:13.480 --> 07:24.120]  One of the things we talk about that you need to understand is when you go to court, you
[07:24.120 --> 07:28.800]  do not participate in civil behavior.
[07:28.800 --> 07:31.800]  You participate in legal behavior.
[07:31.800 --> 07:33.280]  They don't speak English.
[07:33.280 --> 07:36.680]  They speak legalese.
[07:36.680 --> 07:46.400]  Now the way the lawyers and judges behave in court has the appearance of being civil.
[07:46.400 --> 07:54.600]  It's very familiar to ways of behaving that we've experienced in other places.
[07:54.600 --> 07:59.080]  And the language they use sounds a lot like English.
[07:59.080 --> 08:01.880]  They use a lot of the same words.
[08:01.880 --> 08:06.120]  They even use a lot of the same words the same way we do.
[08:06.120 --> 08:13.320]  The problem is a lot of the behaviors that go on in court, although they appear to be
[08:13.320 --> 08:21.840]  similar to what occurs outside of court, have meanings that if we haven't done our research,
[08:21.840 --> 08:24.240]  that we don't understand.
[08:24.240 --> 08:31.080]  A lot of the terms that they use, they speak a word and we think we know and understand
[08:31.080 --> 08:39.560]  that word, and we may know and understand that word in civil discourse, but this is
[08:39.560 --> 08:42.000]  not civil discourse.
[08:42.000 --> 08:48.240]  And the last thing the judge or the lawyer on the other side is going to explain to you
[08:48.240 --> 08:57.200]  is that what you're seeing and hearing is not what you think it is.
[08:57.200 --> 09:06.540]  So you need to come to a place like Eddie's Sunday Seminar and listen to this over and
[09:06.540 --> 09:12.720]  over a few times, and the main term I like to use is person.
[09:12.720 --> 09:18.640]  You know, I'm a person, you're a person, he's a person, Eddie, you define what a person
[09:18.640 --> 09:20.280]  is in law.
[09:20.280 --> 09:27.800]  Well, in law, especially here in Texas, the definition of person for the majority of
[09:27.800 --> 09:33.000]  places where it's used in code is found in Chapter 311 of the government code.
[09:33.000 --> 09:38.160]  And in Chapter 311 of the government code, person is defined as a corporation association
[09:38.160 --> 09:41.240]  or limited liability company.
[09:41.240 --> 09:45.960]  Now the courts have ruled that in what comes to certain rules of statutory construction
[09:45.960 --> 09:52.720]  and interpretation, that includes actually has a limiting thing about it, but it also
[09:52.720 --> 09:55.040]  can be expansive.
[09:55.040 --> 09:59.960]  And so when a definition that uses the term includes like for person is used, you have
[09:59.960 --> 10:05.720]  to understand how they can expand it and how they're limited in how they can expand it.
[10:05.720 --> 10:11.320]  For instance, everything that I just stated is actually a fictional entity.
[10:11.320 --> 10:15.080]  It's created entirely by paper and by law.
[10:15.080 --> 10:21.560]  It doesn't exist in the physical world, corporation association or limited liability company.
[10:21.560 --> 10:29.120]  Now includes would also include any other form of legal entity that would fall into the
[10:29.120 --> 10:35.240]  same classifications as those that were enumerated by this.
[10:35.240 --> 10:42.080]  So right off the bat, the term person in Texas is defined as an artificial entity.
[10:42.080 --> 10:45.040]  It's not a living human.
[10:45.040 --> 10:49.680]  In fact, we can verify that by looking at a book that's given to every legislator here
[10:49.680 --> 10:52.480]  in Texas when they first assume office.
[10:52.480 --> 10:56.580]  It's called the Texas Legislative Drafting Manual.
[10:56.580 --> 11:02.480]  In that manual, it specifically states, do not presume that you understand the meaning
[11:02.480 --> 11:07.600]  of a term because it looks familiar.
[11:07.600 --> 11:12.680]  This would especially include terms such as person.
[11:12.680 --> 11:20.920]  In Texas law, the term person is given an intentionally artificial meaning.
[11:20.920 --> 11:26.480]  Now that is an almost verbatim quote out of the Texas Legislative Drafting Manual.
[11:26.480 --> 11:31.760]  So the legislators and those that act on these codes know full well that most of the time
[11:31.760 --> 11:38.080]  when the code says a person commits such and such offense, that that does not apply to the
[11:38.080 --> 11:41.880]  general public nine times out of ten.
[11:41.880 --> 11:49.840]  It will apply only to people that are actually participating in the activity that that particular
[11:49.840 --> 11:56.640]  code is designed to regulate, transportation for instance, electrician for instance, plumber
[11:56.640 --> 11:58.160]  for instance.
[11:58.160 --> 12:04.760]  The terms used by those codes in relation to person apply only to someone that is actively
[12:04.760 --> 12:09.720]  engaging in that activity for the purpose of making a living as a business.
[12:09.720 --> 12:16.920]  Now, and those you mentioned were under license.
[12:16.920 --> 12:25.920]  Is it specific to under license or would it extend to anyone acting at the behest of a
[12:25.920 --> 12:28.880]  fictional entity like a corporation or?
[12:28.880 --> 12:34.320]  It would depend upon the context but for the most part, yes, it applies only to those industries
[12:34.320 --> 12:39.800]  for which the government has a regulatory requirement.
[12:39.800 --> 12:44.640]  And those industries are pretty much anything that has an imminent impact on the public
[12:44.640 --> 12:46.760]  health and welfare.
[12:46.760 --> 12:52.560]  For instance, the electrician has an imminent impact because it would take just a matter
[12:52.560 --> 12:58.360]  of an instant to set a house on fire due to faulty wiring or a fuse box that was badly
[12:58.360 --> 13:00.360]  wired or something of that nature.
[13:00.360 --> 13:05.240]  So because his job has a direct and imminent impact upon the well-being of those that he
[13:05.240 --> 13:09.040]  services, that's regulable.
[13:09.040 --> 13:10.680]  Same thing with a plumber.
[13:10.680 --> 13:17.080]  When a plumber hooks up a house, a hose, water system to the main water supply, he has to
[13:17.080 --> 13:23.000]  install what's called a backflow regulator as one example, which prevents any contaminants
[13:23.000 --> 13:27.200]  from the house entering the public water supply.
[13:27.200 --> 13:33.440]  So in order to protect the public health and welfare, a plumber has to be licensed to install
[13:33.440 --> 13:36.240]  those types of devices.
[13:36.240 --> 13:40.120]  And that's true of virtually every industry that has that type of impact but it has nothing
[13:40.120 --> 13:45.360]  to do with those that are what's known as occupations of common right, which the government
[13:45.360 --> 13:50.640]  has no power and authority to regulate or license.
[13:50.640 --> 14:02.560]  So if you're working for a grocery store, then you would not be a person?
[14:02.560 --> 14:09.600]  You would not be a person unless you're actually working someplace like in the meat section
[14:09.600 --> 14:15.680]  where you have to be health inspected and certified as far as your health.
[14:15.680 --> 14:19.640]  You don't have to have a license to work there, but you have to be certified that you don't
[14:19.640 --> 14:23.640]  have any contagious diseases that you could pass on to the general public.
[14:23.640 --> 14:27.760]  So you could work in certain parts of the store and that's not required.
[14:27.760 --> 14:31.320]  While if you worked in other parts of the store that could have that imminent impact
[14:31.320 --> 14:35.560]  situation going on, then you may have to have something else.
[14:35.560 --> 14:40.160]  That's not necessarily a license, you may have to have a permit.
[14:40.160 --> 14:48.680]  So this kind of gives the idea of the terms that we normally use in normal civil behavior
[14:48.680 --> 14:53.560]  aren't always what they seem when we go into court.
[14:53.560 --> 14:54.560]  That's correct.
[14:54.560 --> 15:01.160]  The thing you need to understand about English common usage versus legal ease common usage
[15:01.160 --> 15:06.560]  is what they neglect to tell you is that when they say that every term or phrase shall be
[15:06.560 --> 15:13.720]  construed under its common meaning, they're not talking about the English common meaning.
[15:13.720 --> 15:20.080]  They're talking about the legal common meaning as in the meaning in law.
[15:20.080 --> 15:23.080]  That's what's common to them.
[15:23.080 --> 15:28.680]  Evidence of this is the fact that there are legal dictionaries versus regular dictionaries.
[15:28.680 --> 15:35.120]  And the reason for that is is because the law has to be certain and definite in what
[15:35.120 --> 15:36.680]  it does.
[15:36.680 --> 15:43.400]  And so a legal dictionary contains the way that the case law has constructed a term
[15:43.400 --> 15:48.960]  or phrase as it applies to the laws in which it appears, unless of course the law gives
[15:48.960 --> 15:54.480]  it a meaning other than what the case law has taken into consideration.
[15:54.480 --> 16:01.680]  And when you use dictionaries of this nature, and I know a lot of times we have people quote
[16:01.680 --> 16:12.280]  blacks and that has always kind of given me a problem quoting blacks, how would we quote
[16:12.280 --> 16:15.080]  from a legal dictionary?
[16:15.080 --> 16:19.760]  Well the way I do it is I just simply ask the court to take judicial notice of this
[16:19.760 --> 16:26.360]  and I say even though I understand the dictionary is not authoritative, the case law that created
[16:26.360 --> 16:29.400]  that definition is.
[16:29.400 --> 16:32.520]  That's exactly where I was going to.
[16:32.520 --> 16:41.080]  When you quote from a legal dictionary, don't necessarily quote the legal dictionary, quote
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[19:57.640 --> 20:17.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens here with Eddie Craig. And we're talking
[20:17.560 --> 20:27.600]  about Eddie's show and his latest research that I was telling about not using the dictionary
[20:27.600 --> 20:36.640]  definition but using the case law. I've referenced in a court attorney general opinion H500.
[20:36.640 --> 20:45.840]  And Judge Shipman in Denton said, Mr. Kelton, as far as this court is concerned, you can
[20:45.840 --> 20:53.320]  use an attorney general's opinion for toilet paper. I said, well, your honor, I hope you
[20:53.320 --> 21:01.720]  don't find the underlying story, the size is quite so versatile. He missed the humor
[21:01.720 --> 21:09.640]  in it, but he got the point. And I got the point from that. I no longer reference attorney
[21:09.640 --> 21:14.920]  general opinions. An attorney general opinion is effectively a brief. So I go and use the
[21:14.920 --> 21:19.640]  case law behind it, just like when I look up something in Black's law, I don't even
[21:19.640 --> 21:27.400]  mention Black's law. I just use their definition and the case law that's in the definition.
[21:27.400 --> 21:35.520]  And then I don't get this blowback from the judge. But enough of that part. Eddie, you're
[21:35.520 --> 21:44.480]  doing these Sunday night, Sunday afternoon, I don't know if you'd call them seminars,
[21:44.480 --> 21:50.320]  but you're on, can you kind of tell us when you're there and give us a good idea of what
[21:50.320 --> 21:56.680]  you do there, why we should come and listen? Okay, yeah, I teach a class Sunday afternoons
[21:56.680 --> 22:02.960]  from two to five down at Brave New Books here in Austin at 1904 Guadalupe Street. And in
[22:02.960 --> 22:09.400]  that class, I spent the first three and a half years or so when I was here teaching everybody
[22:09.400 --> 22:15.040]  what all the particular statutes are that we use in the criminal procedure scenarios,
[22:15.040 --> 22:20.000]  whether it be traffic tickets or any other type of misdemeanor and even in felony cases,
[22:20.000 --> 22:27.200]  the criminal rules that apply. And now we've moved into a realm of hopefully that sunk
[22:27.200 --> 22:36.440]  in to such a degree that we can actually get people to practically apply that knowledge.
[22:36.440 --> 22:46.040]  So what we have them doing now is we actually go in and practice court procedures and things
[22:46.040 --> 22:51.720]  of that nature. People act like attorneys, they act like officers, they basically are
[22:51.720 --> 22:58.560]  doing everything that you would have to actually do in court. And because of that, hopefully
[22:58.560 --> 23:03.800]  they're getting more hands on and ready to go into the court situation and handle this
[23:03.800 --> 23:11.920]  stuff. So that's kind of how it works. And so far we've had several students that have
[23:11.920 --> 23:20.200]  become very successful at it and are quite good. In fact, one of my students, Chris,
[23:20.200 --> 23:27.640]  is currently fighting his cases and he's got a case going through the county courts right
[23:27.640 --> 23:34.520]  now that he actually won. They declared him not guilty on for several charges. And that
[23:34.520 --> 23:39.440]  was a big win as far as all that goes. Now he actually used an attorney at that time,
[23:39.440 --> 23:44.040]  but he controlled the attorney, forcing the attorney to do the things he was supposed
[23:44.040 --> 23:49.480]  to do because Chris knew what the rules were the attorney was supposed to be doing. And
[23:49.480 --> 23:54.320]  Chris insisted that he do them whereas normally he would have waved them or ignored them or
[23:54.320 --> 23:58.400]  whatever. Now there's one thing that you need to be aware of most especially when you go
[23:58.400 --> 24:06.280]  into these courts with an attorney. If you ask an attorney what his job is for you and
[24:06.280 --> 24:12.920]  he is honest, this is the answer you will get. My job is to ensure that your rights
[24:12.920 --> 24:20.880]  are not violated in essence so that you do not have any appealable error. Now what the
[24:20.880 --> 24:28.400]  attorney neglects to tell you is, the way he can virtually guarantee that he does that
[24:28.400 --> 24:35.800]  properly is that he weighs the multitude of your rights all the way through. For instance,
[24:35.800 --> 24:40.320]  most people don't know that there are three due process rights that get waved the moment
[24:40.320 --> 24:46.840]  a plea gets entered. You've waved your right to notice, you waved your right to any malformity
[24:46.840 --> 24:53.080]  of the complaint and any malformity of the charging instrument based upon that complaint.
[24:53.080 --> 24:58.640]  Once you enter that plea, any of that is waved. It's considered done and over. You can't
[24:58.640 --> 25:03.480]  go back and fix it now. And your attorney when he enters a plea on your behalf, weighs
[25:03.480 --> 25:10.680]  those rights right out from under you. It's just the game, the way it's set up that deprives
[25:10.680 --> 25:19.920]  you of so much when you're unaware. And this class is intended to stop that. And it astounds
[25:19.920 --> 25:26.080]  me that we have anywhere from three people to 18 people, it varies all the time. But
[25:26.080 --> 25:30.600]  it astounds me that there's not 10 times that number of people in there considering where
[25:30.600 --> 25:37.080]  we live here in Austin and in Texas cities close by in general, where the cops are violating
[25:37.080 --> 25:44.640]  rights on a daily basis every single hour. I mean, this class should be packed every
[25:44.640 --> 25:51.280]  Sunday. But it's really made me consider the possibility people either don't want to understand
[25:51.280 --> 25:55.840]  their rights, they don't want to have the responsibility of exercising them, or they
[25:55.840 --> 26:00.280]  don't want to be reminded of what they've lost. Because they no longer have the means
[26:00.280 --> 26:04.080]  or the courage to fight it. I don't know. Whatever it is, it's a problem.
[26:04.080 --> 26:13.520]  I think maybe cognitive dissonance has a lot to do with this. We perceive a governmental
[26:13.520 --> 26:20.680]  engine that's so large and so overpowering, what can a mere human do against all this
[26:20.680 --> 26:30.840]  overwhelming corruption? And how does one admit that all of those cherished beliefs
[26:30.840 --> 26:35.040]  we've held all our lives were nothing but hogwash?
[26:35.040 --> 26:42.680]  Yeah, because a lot of them are easily recognized. Well, I have a right to this. Really? Show
[26:42.680 --> 26:48.360]  me how you're going to enforce it. Show me what the rules are that allow you to prevent
[26:48.360 --> 26:53.280]  that judge or that prosecutor or that defense attorney from yanking that rug right out from
[26:53.280 --> 26:58.560]  under you or pushing you off that cliff against your will. And most people don't. They don't
[26:58.560 --> 27:06.560]  have a clue how to do it. And that's what I've set my mind to try to educate them to do.
[27:06.560 --> 27:16.160]  That may be the greatest fallacy that the vast majority of the public adhere to is that
[27:16.160 --> 27:24.880]  those officials we place in positions of power and authority will do the right thing. And
[27:24.880 --> 27:39.600]  we can trust them to act properly by us. Because what if we can't? Then we're completely at
[27:39.600 --> 27:49.720]  their mercy. And this, the supposed greatest country on earth. I guess this the largest
[27:49.720 --> 28:00.760]  police state the world has ever seen. We're in it. And we have no idea in Texas. We have
[28:00.760 --> 28:08.080]  approximately 23 million people in Texas at the moment, 23 to 25. There are approximately
[28:08.080 --> 28:17.480]  one million arrests every year. That is absolutely outrageous. And the average conviction rate
[28:17.480 --> 28:30.120]  for all of those 99.6. The only way that's going to get fixed is with classes just exactly
[28:30.120 --> 28:35.520]  like Eddie's holding. Yeah. And you wouldn't you if you pay attention to it, you'll find
[28:35.520 --> 28:42.680]  out that that 99.6 conviction rate comes from the fact that the attorney sells you out or
[28:42.680 --> 28:49.760]  the attorneys cut a plea bargain, which counts as a conviction against you. Everybody takes
[28:49.760 --> 29:00.120]  the deal. The whole system is designed around the deal. I went through the felony of the
[29:00.120 --> 29:05.480]  district court records for the county I mean, but other than a relatively small county north
[29:05.480 --> 29:16.400]  of Fort Worth. This is several years ago. And from January 1st to July the first, there
[29:16.400 --> 29:26.040]  were 1650 three indictments brought. Eddie, you have any idea how many people pled not
[29:26.040 --> 29:35.120]  guilty by the public record? Probably none of them. Actually, we have an outstanding
[29:35.120 --> 29:43.960]  county. We had one. Aren't we unique? How many people do you know who have been accused
[29:43.960 --> 29:55.840]  of a felony crime? Say, Oh, yeah, I'm guilty. Punish me. Not many this week. So 1650 three
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[34:25.240 --> 34:32.800]  Hi Randy, how's it going? It's going pretty good here and I hear you've been working
[34:32.800 --> 34:42.120]  over the courts again. Can you kind of bring us up to speed on what you've been up to lately?
[34:42.120 --> 34:51.000]  Well, I just had a hearing last Thursday. I thought it was an interesting hearing. Eddie
[34:51.000 --> 35:02.880]  was there along with other witnesses. Just to get things started, just a simple act of
[35:02.880 --> 35:08.800]  just trying to get it commenced and properly read into the docket appeared to be a significant
[35:08.800 --> 35:16.280]  challenge to the presiding judge. The docket was failed to be so even after 10 minutes
[35:16.280 --> 35:24.360]  of attempts. It's hard to believe that that was accidental. I think it more or less just
[35:24.360 --> 35:35.000]  shows goes to judicial disability. In this hearing, I'm specifically just asking for
[35:35.000 --> 35:42.720]  a rhythm and dentist to order the Travis County Sheriff's Office to produce video of my detention
[35:42.720 --> 35:51.680]  and intake and medical examination. For three years, they've refused. I have open records
[35:51.680 --> 35:58.560]  requests which they've perjured themselves multiple ways and I can expand upon that later.
[35:58.560 --> 36:05.680]  I have court orders from the judge at the original trial for them to produce. Attorney
[36:05.680 --> 36:15.080]  General's opinion and finally, after exhausting all remedy, I filed in District Court for
[36:15.080 --> 36:25.280]  a rhythm and dent or the Sheriff to produce that video. I felt and this went along with
[36:25.280 --> 36:32.800]  what my witnesses corroborated that the judge was incredibly biased towards me. Threatened
[36:32.800 --> 36:39.400]  me with contempt of court many times to try to intimidate me. That didn't work. He ordered
[36:39.400 --> 36:46.080]  the constable to or Sheriff's Deputy to stand right by me. Threatened me to basically waive
[36:46.080 --> 36:54.400]  my right to object which I did not do. In fact, I had disqualified the refused the judge.
[36:54.400 --> 37:00.200]  He refused recusal. Disqualified and he refused to vacate the bench. Ordered the constable
[37:00.200 --> 37:08.680]  to remove the judge from the bench because he's been disqualified and he refuses to vacate.
[37:08.680 --> 37:16.080]  The judge continued to have a hearing. The judge accepted a document filed in opposition
[37:16.080 --> 37:23.800]  to me from the Attorney's office that was only six days notice so I thought that was
[37:23.800 --> 37:31.920]  untimely. I'm proper time to prepare but even more than that, just at onset of hearing,
[37:31.920 --> 37:39.960]  they produced about a two-inch thick document which I obviously had no opportunity to read.
[37:39.960 --> 37:46.080]  They had expertly hearing with the judge. I believe they produced some computer disk
[37:46.080 --> 37:52.640]  or something on there which has yet to be disclosed to me what that is. The judge not
[37:52.640 --> 37:58.680]  disclosed the acceptance of Travis County Attorney's documents. In the hearing, did
[37:58.680 --> 38:10.840]  not disclose the record that he accepted the computer disks. After a while of refusing
[38:10.840 --> 38:20.320]  to submit, according to my witnesses, judge and after disqualifying him, he tried to take
[38:20.320 --> 38:28.320]  another tactic. I guess intimidation is in work and then at that point he gave indication
[38:28.320 --> 38:35.000]  to the county attorney that he's probably going to sign, preferably on my side, in order
[38:35.000 --> 38:45.240]  for a sheriff to produce the video at which at that point Travis County attorneys announced
[38:45.240 --> 38:51.200]  that that evidence has been destroyed prior to the open record request, meaning that within
[38:51.200 --> 39:00.840]  eight days of me filing that request and they had claimed to have already destroyed the
[39:00.840 --> 39:05.360]  evidence over there were mandated under statute to be continued.
[39:05.360 --> 39:13.880]  Wait a minute, Mike. How long have you been making requests for this information?
[39:13.880 --> 39:27.560]  It was January 18th, 2011. And this is the first time that the aid department stated
[39:27.560 --> 39:36.200]  that the records had been destroyed. Did you at any time prior to this receive a response
[39:36.200 --> 39:43.120]  stating that we have no records responsive to your request?
[39:43.120 --> 39:57.840]  They did produce that on January 4th, 2012. So they did produce that, that they claimed
[39:57.840 --> 40:05.160]  after the search. When was your first request?
[40:05.160 --> 40:08.200]  January 18th, 2011.
[40:08.200 --> 40:18.760]  So from January 18th, 2011 to January 24th, 2012, they didn't state that they had no records
[40:18.760 --> 40:25.560]  responsive to your request. And then after a year, they all of a sudden didn't have any
[40:25.560 --> 40:35.520]  records responsive to your request. Once the request is made, they cannot destroy the records
[40:35.520 --> 40:44.920]  at all until the request has been resolved. So that first year is tantamount to admission
[40:44.920 --> 40:49.000]  that they had the records and deliberately destroyed them to prevent you from giving
[40:49.000 --> 40:50.000]  them.
[40:50.000 --> 40:56.440]  That is correct. And now they're altering their opinion and saying we destroyed these
[40:56.440 --> 41:03.240]  records prior to even the open records request.
[41:03.240 --> 41:12.320]  So for a year, they didn't respond saying they had no records responsive to your request.
[41:12.320 --> 41:18.800]  So that raises a really serious question.
[41:18.800 --> 41:27.520]  In order to determine whether or not the records could possibly be restricted, someone would
[41:27.520 --> 41:34.160]  have had to have examined them. Yes.
[41:34.160 --> 41:40.160]  And on the first request, they determined that the records, they asked for an attorney general
[41:40.160 --> 41:47.560]  opinion. Wait a minute. Did they ask for an attorney general opinion straight off?
[41:47.560 --> 41:50.120]  I did. You can't.
[41:50.120 --> 41:57.840]  If they refused to refuse, then I asked for an attorney general opinion to move that the
[41:57.840 --> 42:01.760]  attorney general will look into their response.
[42:01.760 --> 42:06.040]  Did the attorney general look into it? Wait a minute. Hold on. When they didn't produce
[42:06.040 --> 42:15.240]  the records initially, did they, any time they don't produce the records, they have
[42:15.240 --> 42:23.320]  to request an attorney general's opinion? They never did that.
[42:23.320 --> 42:30.040]  And they're not even close to Coke. They're just ignoring everything. Because if they
[42:30.040 --> 42:37.120]  had, the reason I was asking that is they requested an attorney general's opinion, then
[42:37.120 --> 42:41.680]  they would have had to submit the records, to have submitted the records to the attorney
[42:41.680 --> 42:45.640]  general so that they could review the records.
[42:45.640 --> 42:50.440]  Yeah. And those are some of the things that I was trying to point out to Mike after the
[42:50.440 --> 42:58.320]  hearing was concluded that they had given him a huge amount of information that he could
[42:58.320 --> 43:03.760]  have used against them based upon their actions. They basically admitted to doing a ton of
[43:03.760 --> 43:11.360]  things in violation of law. And that would have been the time to bring that to the judge's
[43:11.360 --> 43:16.200]  attention as far as those timelines. Well, judge, they're saying they don't have this
[43:16.200 --> 43:21.800]  information, yet the request was made within seven days of my being released from jail.
[43:21.800 --> 43:26.880]  They couldn't destroy the records before a minimum of 60 days. And I made my request
[43:26.880 --> 43:34.080]  well within the 60 days. In fact, it was seven days and get those things into the record
[43:34.080 --> 43:38.680]  because that would have given the judge grounds to start asking them questions about, so where
[43:38.680 --> 43:48.000]  are they? And so on and so forth. But anyway, Randy, we got a break coming up here. Alright,
[43:48.000 --> 43:52.800]  so hang on a second Mike, we'll pick you up. I'm not going to run over the cliff this time.
[43:52.800 --> 43:56.800]  Alright folks, we'll be right back after the break so y'all hang in there.
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[46:14.560 --> 46:38.760]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton and Denver Stevens here with Eddie Craig and Eddie won't let
[46:38.760 --> 46:46.200]  me do the outro anymore because I keep running over the cliff. He don't trust me, but I
[46:46.200 --> 46:55.120]  didn't get to do the intros. We were talking to Mike in Texas. Okay, Mike, where were
[46:55.120 --> 46:56.720]  we when we went out?
[46:56.720 --> 47:07.920]  Well, I did mention to the judge that the open record request was made only 10 days after
[47:07.920 --> 47:17.440]  I was released, which was 13 days from arrest, and they're required to maintain those records
[47:17.440 --> 47:22.000]  throughout the duration. I didn't know the exact statute number. I found that way there
[47:22.000 --> 47:29.200]  was 38223B, but they're required to maintain those records, not just in the event of a
[47:29.200 --> 47:34.080]  criminal prosecution, but in the event of appeal, in the event of any other legal issues that
[47:34.080 --> 47:40.800]  could possibly be associated with this case. The county attorney said not that they just
[47:40.800 --> 47:49.280]  destroyed my record, but it's their policy to not even collect this information at all,
[47:49.280 --> 47:56.720]  which would be seemingly contradictory to all the video cameras that are posted throughout
[47:56.720 --> 47:58.760]  the intake center and other things.
[47:58.760 --> 48:04.200]  Yeah, not to mention the federal requirements on jail facilities.
[48:04.200 --> 48:12.080]  Absolutely. For federal crimes of jail facilities, but also that I was magistrated and had a
[48:12.080 --> 48:18.680]  bond hearing in my cell away from the public, and they're required to record that. All those
[48:18.680 --> 48:23.800]  recordings are required to be maintained to show that they actually did do that. All
[48:23.800 --> 48:36.040]  those records they claim were never made, which I find highly unlikely. I couldn't quite
[48:36.040 --> 48:42.480]  remember all the statutes, and I made my objection. At that point, I had actually disqualified
[48:42.480 --> 48:47.640]  the judge. Anything that occurred after that was really irrelevant. However, with the exception
[48:47.640 --> 48:56.520]  that I believe the county attorney had just confessed to countless, at this point, criminal
[48:56.520 --> 48:58.560]  violations in front of the judge.
[48:58.560 --> 49:02.600]  Well, see, I firmly believe that one of the things you could have addressed in the court
[49:02.600 --> 49:07.600]  when you were in there the other day was knowing the fact that they magistrated you in your
[49:07.600 --> 49:12.760]  jail cell outside of the public view. One of the things you could have done on the record,
[49:12.760 --> 49:19.640]  in my opinion, is you could have asked, would Mr. Kelly, which was the other attorney, correct?
[49:19.640 --> 49:20.640]  Yes.
[49:20.640 --> 49:29.640]  Okay. Would Mr. Kelly be willing to stipulate on the record that the 15.17 proceedings involving
[49:29.640 --> 49:36.880]  me were done while I was in a jail cell? And then when he said, well, yeah, according
[49:36.880 --> 49:41.880]  to the records, that's when they were done. Well, would Mr. Kelly also be willing to stipulate
[49:41.880 --> 49:50.280]  that the county attorney was present and knowledgeable of this 15.17 proceeding being conducted
[49:50.280 --> 49:56.520]  in a jail cell? Well, yeah. And would Mr. Kelly be willing to stipulate to the fact
[49:56.520 --> 50:02.360]  that the magistrate that appeared was knowledgeable of the fact that this was being conducted
[50:02.360 --> 50:10.240]  in a jail cell? Yes. Okay. Then would Mr. Kelly be willing to stipulate that all of those
[50:10.240 --> 50:15.200]  are direct violations of the Code of Criminal Procedure and the Texas constitutional requirement
[50:15.200 --> 50:21.560]  that all proceedings be done in public? See, these are all things that I would have taken
[50:21.560 --> 50:26.520]  full advantage of because I know they're factual. I know the law requires it to be done this
[50:26.520 --> 50:31.760]  way and they're not doing it. This would have given you a shot, especially if that was a
[50:31.760 --> 50:36.520]  city judge. This would have given you a shot at the county officials and the city at the
[50:36.520 --> 50:42.760]  same time because all of them work together to commit those violations of your rights.
[50:42.760 --> 50:50.640]  Well, actually, he still has that shot. It's just, I agree, it's hard to take the shot
[50:50.640 --> 50:59.800]  and Mike and I have been talking about a grand jury strategy, something I've been toying
[50:59.800 --> 51:07.520]  with lately because in some counties we have so much difficulty getting to the grand jury.
[51:07.520 --> 51:15.840]  It occurred to me, I spoke earlier about Attorney General Opinion H500 and what Attorney
[51:15.840 --> 51:27.640]  General Opinion H500 essentially said was that any magistrate may hear any complaint
[51:27.640 --> 51:35.480]  from anywhere in the state of Texas, felony or misdemeanor. Well, when grand jury sits,
[51:35.480 --> 51:42.400]  they sit for the purpose of hearing criminal complaints and in effect what the courts have
[51:42.400 --> 51:51.680]  essentially held is that, I'm sorry, not the courts, but what the prosecutors and police
[51:51.680 --> 51:58.280]  departments have held is that once there is an indictment, you no longer have a right
[51:58.280 --> 52:05.000]  to an examining trial because essentially that's what the grand jury did is they held
[52:05.000 --> 52:10.640]  an examining trial. They examined into the sufficiency of the accusations and the evidence
[52:10.640 --> 52:17.840]  presented to the grand jury falls under the same rules of evidence as the evidence presented
[52:17.840 --> 52:26.440]  to a magistrate. So since they're acting in essentially the same capacity and grand jurors
[52:26.440 --> 52:35.240]  are impaneled by a district judge who is a state official and not a county official,
[52:35.240 --> 52:42.600]  I find nothing in law that restricts the venue of a grand jury.
[52:42.600 --> 52:47.920]  Well, let me interject one of the things to that, Randy, as far as the examining trial
[52:47.920 --> 52:52.040]  process goes. The issue here though is not simply whether or not you're entitled to
[52:52.040 --> 52:56.880]  an examining trial for the sufficiency of the criminal allegations. If you're arrested
[52:56.880 --> 53:03.160]  without a warrant, by law there is a mandatory requirement to determine through the examining
[53:03.160 --> 53:10.080]  process and a finding of probable cause, which can only be done at the examining process
[53:10.080 --> 53:15.840]  to determine whether or not the initial arrest without warrant itself was even legal. They
[53:15.840 --> 53:20.560]  can't get to the evidentiary phase of finding out whether or not a crime was committed if
[53:20.560 --> 53:24.720]  they can't first show that there was probable cause for the arrest without warrant to actually
[53:24.720 --> 53:31.920]  be made. That's the purpose. Even if you're arrested on a warrant, makes no difference
[53:31.920 --> 53:38.240]  because if you're arrested on a warrant, that warrant was secured in an ex parte hearing
[53:38.240 --> 53:47.160]  trial. That's the only way they can produce a warrant. It was ex parte. That's why the
[53:47.160 --> 53:56.600]  warrant always says arrest this person and bring him before me because I'm the one that
[53:56.600 --> 54:03.800]  made the determination of probable cause based solely on the pronouncements or statements
[54:03.800 --> 54:11.560]  of a witness. Now we hold one with both parties present the way they're supposed to be held.
[54:11.560 --> 54:15.400]  So if you're arrested on the warrant, there had to be an ex parte hearing. Otherwise, if
[54:15.400 --> 54:23.000]  you don't point a warrant, if you were there, they don't need a warrant. So in either case,
[54:23.000 --> 54:28.920]  they had to have an examine trial. The point I was going to is if you can't get to a grand
[54:28.920 --> 54:38.440]  jury in this county, take it to a grand jury in another county. Now I've had a couple grand
[54:38.440 --> 54:47.560]  juries I can actually get to, one in particular and that's here in Tarrant County. And I'm
[54:47.560 --> 54:53.680]  looking at taking criminal charges against a couple of federal judges to the local grand
[54:53.680 --> 55:01.560]  jury because we're saying that when a judge exerts a purport to exert an authority doesn't
[55:01.560 --> 55:09.680]  expressly have, even if he's a federal judge, he's in a courthouse that belongs to the state.
[55:09.680 --> 55:16.280]  It's not a federal enclave. If there's a shooting in the federal courthouse, that's not a federal
[55:16.280 --> 55:24.200]  crime. Unless it's you to judge. If you need anybody else, it's not a federal crime, it's
[55:24.200 --> 55:27.480]  a state crime. The state law applies in that courthouse. So I'm going to take the federal
[55:27.480 --> 55:36.480]  judge to a grand jury for acts they committed on the bench. But back to the point, I have
[55:36.480 --> 55:48.680]  seen nothing that limits a grand jury's jurisdiction to any particular venue. Have you any? No,
[55:48.680 --> 55:55.160]  I have not. It has never been addressed. Yeah, in fact, the Texas Constitution says
[55:55.160 --> 56:00.160]  very clearly that the grand jury's purpose is to check into any criminal case, misdemeanors
[56:00.160 --> 56:09.280]  or felonies. The grand jury shall examine into all criminal accusations that come to
[56:09.280 --> 56:15.480]  their knowledge by their own that come to them by their own knowledge by way of the prosecuting
[56:15.480 --> 56:26.480]  attorney or any credible person. I don't hear anything in there about all crimes within
[56:26.480 --> 56:35.280]  a given venue. Nope. It says all. So we should be able to go, you know, if I go to Travis
[56:35.280 --> 56:44.320]  County, like Mike has, and I go through all of the checks and balances, I exercise all
[56:44.320 --> 56:54.600]  the potential remedies and still receive no remedy. Then what's to prevent me from coming
[56:54.600 --> 57:01.480]  to the grand jury in Tarrant County and saying, with criminal charges in this case against
[57:01.480 --> 57:08.960]  the grand jury in Travis County? Because he has Mike presented criminal complaints to
[57:08.960 --> 57:14.960]  the grand jury in Travis County, and they didn't do anything. There's no true bill. There's
[57:14.960 --> 57:23.120]  no no bill. That appears to be a violation of 20.09. So you can't hardly go to the grand
[57:23.120 --> 57:30.560]  jury that you're charging. And even another grand jury in the same venue would tend to
[57:30.560 --> 57:37.680]  be corrupted by the same prosecuting attorney. So your only real access is another grand jury.
[57:37.680 --> 57:45.800]  We bring it up to Travis County. Now they may think that you can control the grand juries
[57:45.800 --> 57:52.120]  in the county they're in, but are these chops going to feel as comfortable about a grand
[57:52.120 --> 58:03.000]  jury in another jurisdiction? You got an opinion on that? Well, I would like to say that the
[58:03.000 --> 58:09.200]  jury has been used up by the prosecutors pretty much to the point where I don't know if they
[58:09.200 --> 58:14.800]  can think for themselves anymore. Oh, go look through the records. When last time I looked
[58:14.800 --> 58:21.400]  through the minutes of the grand jury in Travis County, every single one I looked at had no
[58:21.400 --> 58:30.800]  bills on it. Every one. So they're not, they're not getting all of them. Probably not. That
[58:30.800 --> 58:35.960]  much I'll go along with. That's for sure. Okay, hang on. We're about to go to break.
[58:35.960 --> 58:42.200]  You caught that. I was watching the clock. Yeah, I'm getting better. This is Randy Kelton.
[58:42.200 --> 58:47.320]  There was Stevens here with Eddie Craig. Mike will pick you up on the other side. We'll
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[01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:03.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, David Stevens here with Eddie Craig, and we're talking to
[01:04:03.560 --> 01:04:11.560]  Mike in Texas, and Mike, we kind of interrupted you. Where are you at this point? What is
[01:04:11.560 --> 01:04:13.560]  your next step?
[01:04:13.560 --> 01:04:21.360]  Well, I did want to make the record and say that I did object to their destruction of
[01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:26.760]  records. I did note to the court that they are required to preserve those records. I
[01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:34.320]  didn't know the exact status of the time. And I also want to note that I did note to
[01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:42.360]  the judge that I did have an ex parte examining hearing, and also had ex parte in registration
[01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:47.960]  and bond hearing. Apparently, all those records that were destroyed despite the requirements
[01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:54.560]  for them to preserve. And then I effectively had a star chamber proceeding, and that I
[01:04:54.560 --> 01:05:02.640]  was in handcuffs in the chair's custody at the courthouse where the ex parte examining
[01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:08.360]  trial was held, and all they had to do was bring me before the magistrate, instead they
[01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:14.160]  issued a warrant for my arrest after I had already been arrested.
[01:05:14.160 --> 01:05:20.160]  Well, they have to do that, Mike. They can't actually keep you arrested without the warrant.
[01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:27.160]  No, no, wait a minute. Did they issue the warrant after an examining trial?
[01:05:27.160 --> 01:05:31.920]  Right. They're supposed to bring me before that magistrate, so I have an opportunity
[01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.160]  to face my accuser, and we could have ended that process that day.
[01:05:35.160 --> 01:05:39.720]  No, wait, wait. That wasn't my question. You said they arrested you, then they got the
[01:05:39.720 --> 01:05:40.720]  warrant.
[01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:46.640]  Yes. How did they do that without an examining trial?
[01:05:46.640 --> 01:05:56.120]  Well, exactly. So, they held an ex parte examining trial while you were in custody?
[01:05:56.120 --> 01:06:01.400]  For arrest and detention, while I was already in arrest and detention, at the exact same
[01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:10.040]  facility where they had the ex parte examining trial. So, all they had to do was put me on
[01:06:10.040 --> 01:06:15.160]  an elevator, moving to that floor, and I could have objected at that point. So, instead they
[01:06:15.160 --> 01:06:20.560]  decided to intake me and book me, examine me, et cetera. And I did note to the judge
[01:06:20.560 --> 01:06:25.560]  that if I'm not able to receive any satisfaction here in Travis County, I may have to take
[01:06:25.560 --> 01:06:31.560]  this to another county. And about that time, he started to soften up a little bit.
[01:06:31.560 --> 01:06:39.840]  So, you opened up. What is my next course of action? Well, I've already disqualified
[01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:45.120]  the judge. I put my motion for disqualification, and it was fairly significant. One of the
[01:06:45.120 --> 01:06:50.400]  things I noted to Judge Scherbelewein was that the judge appeared to have an incompetent
[01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:55.800]  incapability of entering in the proper cause number after about 10 minutes, many objections,
[01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:01.440]  et cetera, and that leaves me to believe that he's either mentally incompetent or he has
[01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:06.480]  suffered from a judicial disability. And I did say, you know, I thought it was well
[01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:12.400]  laid out. I used statute in his opinion that they were required to maintain his records
[01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:17.920]  and that this was made before a judge. He was required to hold an exit. He was required
[01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:24.320]  to, you know, and all this was towards the 1517 hearing. He, in his presence, he overlooked
[01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:31.440]  all that stuff. It was his duty to form an Article 5201 Court of Inquiry and failing
[01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:38.920]  to do so after someone had confessed to Indians in the open court on the record to serious
[01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:47.200]  crimes that his duty was to form an Article 5201 Exam in Crowley. Failed to do that. And
[01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:52.880]  so now he's guilty of, I'm not just as a failure to prosecute, I'm trying to do the
[01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:57.640]  exact statute. So, I laid it out fairly well, and I'm going to see what the result is. But
[01:07:57.640 --> 01:08:02.440]  my next, you know, I've got to wait for the other shoe to drop as far as what they're
[01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:09.160]  going to do. If I was to render a guess, it would be that Stubblevine has never met
[01:08:09.160 --> 01:08:15.640]  a judge that he felt is deserving of disqualification. So, what they'll do is they'll come back with
[01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.880]  a different cause number. I've already noted that the judge has already recharacterized
[01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:25.000]  the cause number. He has to review us. He's not allowed to do it. You know, and one of
[01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:30.520]  their main tricks seems to be is to call something by a different name, and then therefore it
[01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:37.560]  voids jurisdiction. And the original cause sort of drops because they just haven't had
[01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:43.240]  a hearing on that name. So, I imagine, you know, aging by how Judge Stubblevine has treated
[01:08:43.240 --> 01:08:47.240]  me in the past, he's going to come up with a different cause number and saying, well,
[01:08:47.240 --> 01:08:51.680]  we rule that he's not disqualified. Well, I've already noted that if he does something like
[01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:56.480]  that, that he's perpetrating fraud upon the court, but he's probably going to do it anyways.
[01:08:56.480 --> 01:09:02.200]  And then I have no idea how the judge is going to respond. He may sign in my favor. It sounded
[01:09:02.200 --> 01:09:07.480]  like he's going to sign in my favor. Then all of the sheriff produce it, but since it's
[01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:12.800]  already been destroyed, there's nothing to produce, you know, and he's probably going
[01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:19.200]  to try to claim it as a rescue to Cata or something of that nature. And, you know, so
[01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:26.400]  I'm going to, my next course of action after that, presuming those logical steps, which
[01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:30.400]  I can never predict what they're going to do. I can only predict what they won't do because
[01:09:30.400 --> 01:09:38.560]  that would be lawful. So, my next course of action is probably going to be go to maybe
[01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:45.200]  another county's grand jury, and then also I'm thinking about opening up another case.
[01:09:45.200 --> 01:09:50.280]  So, this one was a petition for Rhythm and Dammus. The next one would be a petition for
[01:09:50.280 --> 01:09:58.520]  an examining trial to look into the allegations that the county is, according to their own
[01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:03.400]  admission, that they are destroying all records, that they are not, this isn't relevant just
[01:10:03.400 --> 01:10:09.400]  for restrictions as me, but that all records should be discussed. So, you know, I'm going
[01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:18.520]  to go, that's probably going to be my next course of action, you know, pending some better
[01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:19.520]  ideas.
[01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:20.520]  So...
[01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:21.520]  Hello?
[01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:22.520]  Go.
[01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:31.080]  Sorry, somebody muted my mic again. I don't know how that happened. Okay, so, you know,
[01:10:31.080 --> 01:10:39.040]  I'm thinking, taking these guys to another county, have you considered petitioning for
[01:10:39.040 --> 01:10:41.040]  a change of view?
[01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:49.520]  That's definitely something that works. I'm going to, you know, a lot of good things to
[01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:57.400]  investigate prior to that. Tonight, I'm going to write, completely write out my response
[01:10:57.400 --> 01:11:04.760]  for petition for re-hearing for my Supreme Court news. I'll get that put out. And then
[01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:09.600]  I'm going to start researching how I'm going to react.
[01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:17.840]  Hold on. I had a epiphany here, but I'll take something for it and it'll get better.
[01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:27.760]  This is the prosecutor testified in court that they routinely destroyed records in violation
[01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:42.440]  of the Open Records Act. In 2007, the legislature changed the Chapter 39 of the Texas Penal
[01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:57.200]  Code, wherein under 39.01, they added 39.015. And in 015, they gave the Attorney General
[01:11:57.200 --> 01:12:05.720]  concurrent jurisdiction in matters of complaints against public officials with the current
[01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:13.880]  jurisdiction with prosecuting attorney. Since your complaint in this case would be against
[01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:21.880]  the prosecuting attorney for violating the Open Records Act, oh my goodness, let me back
[01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:33.160]  up. There is, prior to the change in 39.015, there was only one time when the Attorney
[01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:43.280]  General was given the original jurisdiction in a criminal prosecution. And that one singular
[01:12:43.280 --> 01:12:51.400]  time is a complaint against a county or district attorney for a violation of the Open Records
[01:12:51.400 --> 01:12:59.760]  Act. So the Attorney General has always had original jurisdiction when the accusation
[01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:07.600]  is against the Attorney General, when the accusation is against the prosecuting attorney.
[01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:14.600]  So have you thought of trying a set of complaints to Greg Abbott himself?
[01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:21.600]  Right now, I've gone to Jordan Hale, who is Chief Executive Officer for the Open Records
[01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:32.160]  Office. And so, prior to this hearing I had last Tuesday, they kept claiming that I wasn't
[01:13:32.160 --> 01:13:40.520]  subpoenaing the proper people to the hearings. So I subpoenaed, or I put an Open Records
[01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:45.720]  Office to Dana DeBevel. Now, who is Travis County Records? You know, who is responsible
[01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:50.840]  for the records? And I also sent one to Jordan Hale, who is Chief of the...
[01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:56.840]  Wait, wait. At this point, you don't care who the custodian of the record is. The custodian
[01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:03.600]  of the record is clear. Under the Open Records Act, the director of an agency is the custodian
[01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:09.400]  of the record for that agency. That's simple. In this case, if you don't know the name,
[01:14:09.400 --> 01:14:15.880]  you don't care. You don't need it. You file a criminal accusation against the director
[01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:24.840]  of the district attorney's office. He's respond to get superior. And you file that with the
[01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:32.160]  attorney general who has original jurisdiction. And he's the only one that has jurisdiction
[01:14:32.160 --> 01:14:37.440]  because it's against the prosecuting attorney. Have you tried that? I'm getting some really
[01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:40.680]  loud background music.
[01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.440]  I don't have any background music.
[01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:48.760]  I think that's Randy's. Randy's sound like he's suddenly broadcasting from a subway.
[01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:50.920]  Is the train coming? Pull it into the station, Randy.
[01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:54.640]  No, there's nothing here. I'm hearing sound coming back.
[01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:57.560]  There it is. Whatever it was, you just killed it.
[01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:02.160]  I didn't do anything. Okay. Anyway, it's gone.
[01:15:02.160 --> 01:15:10.560]  I'll get to this point. I already have had some several communications with Jordan Hale.
[01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:18.520]  And her response was that I should just go file criminal charges against her. So apparently
[01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:26.080]  she's not highly responsive in this instance. So she's actually aiding and vetting the county
[01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:29.480]  and openly denying me access to these records.
[01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:35.200]  Okay. So let's come up to Ted Rock County and file criminal charges against her.
[01:15:35.200 --> 01:15:36.200]  Absolutely.
[01:15:36.200 --> 01:15:41.880]  Actually, wait a minute. If it's on open records, the attorney general is the only one who has
[01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:42.880]  jurisdiction.
[01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:53.600]  Well, that's where it's going to have to go. And that's in the open records act. And
[01:15:53.600 --> 01:16:02.640]  I used that 15 years ago. So it's been in there a long time. Nobody else has original
[01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:07.520]  jurisdiction in a complaint against a prosecuting attorney for violating the act other than
[01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:14.480]  the attorney general himself. And when he refuses to take a criminal complaint, then you get
[01:16:14.480 --> 01:16:18.680]  to file against him and send a copy of the complaint against his political opponent,
[01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:20.680]  to his political opponents.
[01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:27.320]  Right. It's all coming down to around October. I mean, it didn't work, it didn't tend this
[01:16:27.320 --> 01:16:31.920]  way, but yeah, it may come out to be something along that nature.
[01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:40.920]  Well, it's time, you know, in the end, everything's political. So mix and politics out of this.
[01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:41.920]  Absolutely.
[01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.920]  Okay, Mike, we've got a couple more calls. We need to move along.
[01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:46.920]  Okay.
[01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:52.920]  Thanks for the update and keep after these guys. We'll make them honest yet.
[01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:53.920]  Thank you.
[01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:58.920]  Thank you very much. Okay. Now we're going to go to Mark and his friend.
[01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:05.920]  Thank you.
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[01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:33.920]  Okay, we are back. Great help Debra Stevens here with Eddie Craig on where we're going
[01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:40.920]  to Markham, Wisconsin. I think we just lost Markham, Wisconsin.
[01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.920]  I think he's screening him right now.
[01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:47.920]  Oh, I think he's screening him. Okay, okay, that'll work, but we'll give him a minute to
[01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:55.920]  screen him. But what Mike is doing, Mike is, you know, he's really been after these guys
[01:19:55.920 --> 01:20:01.920]  and he's hung in there. Most people would have given up a long time ago, but he's hung
[01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:08.920]  in there. And I think if we can, if he goes to the Attorney General and we know the Attorney
[01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:19.920]  General won't do anything, then we have a really good reason to go to another county.
[01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:30.920]  And, you know, when I read 20.09, it does mention the prosecuting attorney. And they can look
[01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:36.920]  at that and say, well, the grand jury's intended to get their complaints from the prosecuting
[01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:45.920]  attorney. However, it says prosecuting attorney or any credible person. Now, it doesn't say
[01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:56.920]  which prosecuting attorney. It says the prosecuting attorney. And if we back up in the code, it
[01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:11.920]  kind of points at, by the meeting one previously mentioned, it points at the prosecuting attorney
[01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:20.920]  for the venue of the judge that consecrated the grand jury. So it would appear that a
[01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:31.920]  prosecuting attorney cannot go to a grand jury in another jurisdiction. But it said any
[01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:40.920]  credible person. It did not say any credible person within the jurisdiction. It said shall
[01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:47.920]  examine into all criminal accusations. It did not say criminal accusations within one
[01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:53.920]  venue or another venue. So I'm thinking we got a good argument. I haven't, I've never
[01:21:53.920 --> 01:22:00.920]  seen this addressed. It's one of those areas where they just assume that this is how it
[01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:07.920]  is, because this is how it's always been done, but doesn't necessarily make it so.
[01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:18.920]  Okay, we are going to go to, I don't have who Eddie is yet. I think it's Mark in Wisconsin,
[01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:23.920]  but I'm not sure I recognize the name. It is Mark in Wisconsin. Okay, good. We're going
[01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:33.920]  to go to Mark in Wisconsin. Hello, Mark. Good evening, Randy, Eddie. Eddie, what's the status
[01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:41.920]  on Tau of Law? It is still transitional. We've got a lot of the underlying stuff that we
[01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:46.920]  want to be using all linked up. We're still running tests on it and everything and getting
[01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:51.920]  it ready to go live. Like I say, just two of us working on it though, so it takes some
[01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:57.920]  doing. Okay, I'm just curious. I noticed legal earth was up and having poked that
[01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:05.920]  hole up, but thank you there, Mr. Kelton. Legal earth, it's not really the legal earth
[01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:15.920]  site. It's just kind of a site to demo some of the tools. We are working on very hard
[01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:31.920]  to get a beta product up within a month on the criminal side. You had a question or
[01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:39.920]  comment for us? I do, I do. Have you been causing trouble again? Well, trouble is all
[01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:47.920]  relative. No, you've been causing trouble with your relatives. Well, that too, that
[01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:55.920]  too. This time around with the Wisconsin Supreme Court Office of Lawyer Regulation,
[01:23:55.920 --> 01:24:04.920]  they actually sent multiple letters to me and a much longer letter with the we ain't
[01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:12.920]  going to do anything. Dear me, based on our intake, we're not going to do anything.
[01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:18.920]  Then for some bizarre reason, they state two facts. The attorney you grieved was
[01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:23.920]  involved in a case in Milwaukee that you were not a party of that case. And then
[01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:29.920]  they point out that I was involved in a separate case in a separate county, resulting
[01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:35.920]  in a judgment in my favor. I have no idea why either of those two things mattered,
[01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:44.920]  but they drew them in there. The attorney that I grieved says he says that I didn't
[01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:51.920]  make a knowingly false statement. And these things says here, I didn't provide,
[01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:57.920]  provide sufficient proof that the attorney violated any of the rules of professional
[01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:09.920]  conduct. Now, sufficient proof is defined SCR 22.38, standard of proof, allegations
[01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.920]  of misconduct in the complaint, allegations of medical incapacity in the petition,
[01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.920]  and character and fitness to practice law shall be established by evidence that is
[01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:25.920]  clear, satisfactory, and convincing. I'm not really sure what that arbitrary
[01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:33.920]  metric of clear, satisfactory, convincing how one can meet that for my future
[01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:40.920]  bar grievances. But I have an AID on. I want to bounce it off here and see if you
[01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:46.920]  could help me perfect getting the idea. One of the wires I want to bar grieve
[01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:58.920]  has filings on a federal form for a trademark. And part of the documentation
[01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:05.920]  would be whether or not lawyer A signed a contract with lawyer B, and at what point
[01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:11.920]  lawyer B realized that they were suing and going against a previous client of
[01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:20.920]  theirs that they, you know, otherwise were dealing with not more than six months
[01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:29.920]  earlier. I would like access to the records from the law firm of the contracts
[01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:34.920]  that were signed and the names of the people involved. No, none of that would
[01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:39.920]  be, of course, actual legal strategy documents, but they're going to squeal
[01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:45.920]  like pigs. They, those are protected. And I'm just curious how I can go to the
[01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:51.920]  federal judge and explain that on the state level, it's obvious this is the
[01:26:51.920 --> 01:27:01.920]  kind of they want. Wait, wait, hold on. What they can withhold is work product.
[01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:09.920]  Cannot be construed that a contract to engage their services is work product.
[01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.920]  Well, that's what they'll first make the claim, I'm sure.
[01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:22.920]  I agree they're going to make that claim. So that should be relatively easy to
[01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:26.920]  handle. But go ahead. I'm sorry. I interrupted again.
[01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:32.920]  Oh, that's fine. So I've been trying to figure out, you know, can I bring this
[01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:40.920]  at the federal level for making of the request of the paperwork in states that,
[01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:44.920]  you know, having done this dance a couple of times on the state level with the
[01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:51.920]  state office of lawyer regulation, that there are a bunch of purposes.
[01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:57.920]  And for me to provide overwhelming evidence, I need the federal help to
[01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:04.920]  gather it. How did you get to the Fed? Well, the only way I get to the Fed is
[01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:13.920]  there was paperwork filed out in the Fed that in the form of a trademark.
[01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:24.920]  Oh, and this issue addresses the trademark itself. Oh, I see. The lawyer who was...
[01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:29.920]  Okay, I'm not sure how I got to Fed. The lawyer represented, did they file the
[01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:36.920]  trademark? The lawyer's name on the trademark application, I do not believe,
[01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:43.920]  is the lawyer who filled it out. I believe the father of the lawyer filled
[01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:48.920]  out the trademark app. And I have reason to believe and do believe that later he
[01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:53.920]  went ahead and filed the paperwork pretending to be the lawyer from the
[01:28:53.920 --> 01:29:02.920]  local law firm, at which point he got a talking to about that and the application
[01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:09.920]  just died there. And it was never pursued any further. I, however, would like to
[01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:16.920]  see some of this paperwork. Now, I'm third party, I have a reason to see the paper.
[01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:20.920]  Yeah, that was going to be my next question. How do you get standing to ask
[01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:25.920]  for this? Well, I want a bar grievance. And it appears the only way that the
[01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:30.920]  bar grievance committee takes this thing seriously is if I come in with this clear
[01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:35.920]  concise, et cetera, handed on a platter, documentation.
[01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:41.920]  No, but how do you get standing to ask for the information you're trying to
[01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:48.920]  secure? Yeah, that's where I'm not 100% sure.
[01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:56.920]  Because I wasn't defrauded or anything. Yeah, if you weren't a party, you know,
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[01:33:51.920 --> 01:34:01.920]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Demi Stevens here with Eddie Craig. And we're talking
[01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:09.920]  to Mark in Wisconsin. And Mark, we're kind of dragging here. I can't see how you can
[01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:16.920]  get standing to request those records, but do you have anything else? Because we kind
[01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:21.920]  of need to move along. Got two more cars and only two seconds left.
[01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:26.920]  Well, like I said, I'm not really sure how I could. And that's why I was hoping maybe
[01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:36.920]  you guys had a good idea. The only possible claim is, you know, the Wisconsin Bar Association
[01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:45.920]  is defective, rejective, etc. And the documentation is needed to be able to prove the case to them.
[01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:57.920]  That might be enough, but I don't think so. I don't see how the, because of the two parties
[01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:09.920]  to the situation have interests that you're pursuing their records, they're likely to claim
[01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.920]  that you interfere with their interests.
[01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:17.920]  Yeah, the other problem I see with this is, is what is your standing to claim and harm
[01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:21.920]  against them that would entitle you to the information?
[01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:30.920]  Well, the long-term harm is, there's still this sitting out there, the spot.
[01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:38.920]  It's not a matter of long-term harm. The question is whether or not you can show standing by proving
[01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:47.920]  that you have been harmed in order to bring the argument that that harm will continue long-term.
[01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:52.920]  Yeah, those parties aren't involved with the long-term harm.
[01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:54.920]  Yeah, that's the problem.
[01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:56.920]  That came already.
[01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:04.920]  Yeah, even if you were trying to prevent a potential harm, that won't get you standing.
[01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:06.920]  Right.
[01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:11.920]  You're doing an actual controversy and you're not going to have one.
[01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:15.920]  You have to turn over another rock.
[01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:23.920]  Yeah, now I got a couple of other rocks that I can do, move the lawsuit up to a $4 million one
[01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.920]  and then start asking for my records.
[01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:29.920]  Good. Okay, we really need to move on.
[01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:31.920]  All right.
[01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:33.920]  Give us up to date, Mark.
[01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:39.920]  I'll do that. I'll probably call tomorrow. I have a mortgage-style question.
[01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:41.920]  Okay, good.
[01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:43.920]  Bye.
[01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:47.920]  Okay, now we're going to go to Jess in Mississippi.
[01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:52.920]  Hello, Jess. What is going on in Hillbilly, Nat?
[01:36:52.920 --> 01:37:00.920]  Okay, well, I've got my public defender and he has not done anything that I've asked him to.
[01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:07.920]  I have asked him, I've got a trial coming up for my gun charge on a college campus in Mississippi
[01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:15.920]  and I have told him to file a motion for dismissal because the land title says private property
[01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:24.920]  and I've also told him to do another request for discovery since it's a new trial
[01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:33.920]  and I'm asking for the statement that was given by the person that called in the tip on the telephone.
[01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:39.920]  They left that out on the last one. The attorney refused to do that.
[01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:42.920]  Bargree, did you bargreeb him?
[01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:47.920]  I'm about to send a bargree here in the next day or two.
[01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:50.920]  Good. Also send him a tort letter.
[01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:52.920]  Oh, okay, a tort letter.
[01:37:52.920 --> 01:38:00.920]  Yeah, tell him you're going to sue him for malpractice because he is not representing your rights and your best interest.
[01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.920]  And I want to get these in before the trial.
[01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:09.920]  If you want to be able to control him at trial, that would be a really good start to putting the reins on him, yeah.
[01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:11.920]  Yeah, have that on the record.
[01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:20.920]  Now, when you said the deed said this was private property, what is the actual ownership name on the deed?
[01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:24.920]  Stateside LLC.
[01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:30.920]  Okay, which is a limited liability corporation belonging to which other corporation?
[01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:35.920]  If, in fact, it is a subsidiary.
[01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:44.920]  It doesn't say. It just said that Stateside LLC sold it to Cottonside Limited Liability Corporation out of Jackson, Mississippi.
[01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:49.920]  Right. You'd probably have to go through the Secretary of State to do a chain of title as far as our...
[01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:51.920]  Hold on.
[01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:58.920]  This was, he went to a university and the university claimed that this property was part of their campus.
[01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:00.920]  Right.
[01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:02.920]  He thought it was off campus.
[01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:04.920]  I understand all that part of it.
[01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:13.920]  What I'm getting at is to be able to actually prove without a doubt that they cannot make the claim that it was part of the campus.
[01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:22.920]  What I'm getting at is if this is actually a subsidiary corporation of some private investment actually owned by them,
[01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:31.920]  and if it's considered private, then it can't be part of the campus because the campus is public if it's a publicly funded school.
[01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:33.920]  Yeah.
[01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:38.920]  So, all I'm doing is suggesting ways to ensure that they can't take that tack.
[01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:46.920]  If you prove that this is a company completely separate and apart from the university, it's not a subsidiary of anything belonging to the university,
[01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:48.920]  they can't make that claim.
[01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:52.920]  The charge has to be dropped because they have no standing to make it.
[01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:54.920]  Okay.
[01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.920]  Okay. And so I go through the Secretary of State.
[01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:02.920]  The Secretary of State can tell you what every corporation's chain is.
[01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:07.920]  You may not know who the people are, but you'll know which corporation belongs to which corporation.
[01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:14.920]  Now, is this the Secretary of State of the federal government or from each state?
[01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:16.920]  No, of the state where the property is.
[01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:19.920]  In this case, Mississippi, right?
[01:40:19.920 --> 01:40:21.920]  Yes, Secretary of State of Mississippi.
[01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:23.920]  Yes.
[01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:29.920]  That's every corporation has to register with the Secretary of State to do business in that state.
[01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:32.920]  Got it.
[01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:34.920]  Okay.
[01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:46.920]  Let's go further. If it does turn out to be a subsidiary company of Mississippi State University and the plaintiff, the prosecutor shows up to court and doesn't have any of that paperwork.
[01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:48.920]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:53.920]  It doesn't make any difference if it's a subsidiary corporation.
[01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:58.920]  The university could own a garbage business.
[01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:03.920]  The garbage trucks would not be part of the campus.
[01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:09.920]  So, if it's a separate company, it's a separate company, it doesn't matter who owns it.
[01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:16.920]  Yeah, I just want them to be able to exhaust the remedy to the fact that they can't say they even do own it.
[01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:26.920]  Yeah, if you could show it actually does belong to somebody else that the university is not even tied to in the university, they're really hung out.
[01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.920]  It is right.
[01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:33.920]  And the prosecutor will try to dance around and make up stuff. He will do that.
[01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:35.920]  Oh, yeah, that's a given.
[01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:42.920]  But the fact of the matter is, if your attorney is not going to do their job, then you definitely need to be going after them.
[01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:47.920]  But you just tell them, look, I've got proof in my hand that says the university does not own that land.
[01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:52.920]  Not only do they not own that land, they don't lease that land. It is privately owned.
[01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:56.920]  Now, you will bring this up in court. You will defend my rights.
[01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:05.920]  You will get this charge dismissed. And if you don't do that, then not only am I going to bar grieve you, I'm going to sue you for malpractice.
[01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:11.920]  And then I'm going to sue you for defamation of character for letting this go on this long.
[01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:13.920]  Okay.
[01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:15.920]  Second question.
[01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:22.920]  The campus security guard is going to be called to testify against me.
[01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:32.920]  I've been doing some reading, and I have found where I can only question him based off the questions that the prosecutor has asked him.
[01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:34.920]  Is that correct?
[01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:46.920]  No. You have to lay foundations based upon that, but you can go anywhere you want to as long as you can show proper foundation or establish it from the questions he's already answered.
[01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:47.920]  Oh.
[01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.920]  Okay. Now, here's the thing about the campus security guard.
[01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:58.920]  First off, if you show that this property was not a part of the campus, the security guard was trespassing.
[01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:02.920]  His authority will be limited to the campus.
[01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:07.920]  Anything he did outside of that was an illegal trespass.
[01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:16.920]  If he went into your premises and did not possess a warrant of any kind, that was an absolutely illegal search and seizure.
[01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:22.920]  All of these are things your attorney should be talking about.
[01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:25.920]  What question?
[01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:32.920]  How is the campus defined?
[01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:41.920]  Educational property is defined as soccer fields, athletic fields, and educational buildings such as libraries.
[01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:43.920]  Wait, wait, wait. Don't change the question.
[01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:47.920]  How is it defined as far as how they're trying to use it versus the statute?
[01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:49.920]  There's two separate issues here on that.
[01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:52.920]  Hang on a second though, we're going to break.
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[01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:29.920]  Alright folks, we are back. This is ruleoflawradio, and we are going to finish up our phone call here with Jeff and Mrs. Dippy.
[01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:38.920]  Alright Jeff, like I say, everything that they've got going on here, your attorney should have already been on top of this, and Randy made a comment that I absolutely agree with.
[01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:48.920]  If they've kept you tied up or in jail or anything over this for as long as they have, they cannot simply turn their back and walk away.
[01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.920]  The only thing they can do is push forward and hope that they can win.
[01:46:52.920 --> 01:47:05.920]  The thing about this is, with all the facts that you've got at your disposal here, that your attorney is ignoring, there's no way they can do that.
[01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:12.920]  The attorney would have to literally throw the case for that to happen.
[01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:16.920]  So don't let it.
[01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:27.920]  Questioning the campus security guard. I have a letter from the clerk of the court stating that I have no transcripts from the grand jury.
[01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:30.920]  There are no transcripts from my grand jury hearing.
[01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:36.920]  That would probably be true because all grand jury's deliberations are in secret. There are no transcripts.
[01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:39.920]  Yes, there are transcripts. They're required to be.
[01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:40.920]  What's the hearing?
[01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:45.920]  Well, this is Mississippi. There are in Texas. I don't know if they're required to have them in Mississippi.
[01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:47.920]  They are. It's part of the code.
[01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:48.920]  Okay.
[01:47:48.920 --> 01:48:06.920]  When the prosecutor questions the campus security guard, the security guard is going to answer, during my investigation, this is where I'm going to come in and say, during your investigation, did you look at the land title and what did you tell the grand jury?
[01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:07.920]  Is that a good story?
[01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:10.920]  Well, that's a compound question. Don't ask those.
[01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:15.920]  Don't actually ask questions. Plan them carefully. Keep them singular subject only.
[01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:20.920]  Do not ask compound questions. Get answers to each thing to build upon them.
[01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:23.920]  Objection, multifarious.
[01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:24.920]  Okay.
[01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:29.920]  So you can ask him, you allege that you were conducting an investigation.
[01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:36.920]  Can you please specify the physical location and business address where this alleged investigation occurred?
[01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:49.920]  Make sure he points out that it was at the location off the campus. He's not going to say it's off campus, but you want to be able to make certain in the record that he is talking about the off campus location.
[01:48:49.920 --> 01:49:05.920]  Because the next thing you're going to do, and at this location where your alleged investigation was taking place, are you testifying before this court that that location is a part of the campus of this university?
[01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:08.920]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. You can't ask him that.
[01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:09.920]  Why can't he?
[01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:16.920]  Well, because he has no way of actually knowing that unless he has specific documentation.
[01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:21.920]  Well, the thing is, though, he began his investigation on a presumption.
[01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:34.920]  No, where it was going to was what documentation do you have to show the actual ownership or legal possession of the property?
[01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:46.920]  Yeah, but that's not what my question. My question is directed at in the case of your investigation, you are testifying that it's your belief this is part of the campus.
[01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:53.920]  Now, what his belief is, we're not looking at documentation for. We want to know why he did the investigation here.
[01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:58.920]  And then when he testifies, yes, I'm testifying that this is a part of the campus.
[01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:14.920]  Now he can introduce the deed on judicial notice saying, you know, Defense Exhibit A, this is the deed that I wish to have introduced as evidence is the prosecution willing to stipulate that this is a certified deed from the county recorders office and blah, blah, blah,
[01:50:14.920 --> 01:50:21.920]  that this land is not owned by the university and so on and so forth. That's where your records going to come.
[01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:34.920]  Okay, you're going to have to establish foundation. Ask, ask him, did you go to the county recorders office and secure a certified copy of the deed?
[01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:41.920]  Yeah, you can even ask the prosecutor to stipulate to the court whether or not they've done so.
[01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:43.920]  Okay.
[01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:58.920]  Then if he says yes, then you can say, did it look like this document? Your Honor, I have a certified copy of the deed secured from the clerk's office and may I show it to the witness?
[01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:05.920]  Yeah, you could even go, do you have a copy of that information with you since you went so far as to look it up?
[01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:19.920]  See, if he actually possesses the same information you have, if he does and he's still trying to prosecute you as having this gun on a campus, now you've got evidence in the record of malicious prosecution.
[01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.920]  He should know better.
[01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:28.920]  And if he doesn't, you ask him, would you recognize one if you saw it?
[01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:29.920]  Okay.
[01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:40.920]  Would you know what a certified copy of the deed looked like? And if he says, well, yes, I would, well, does it look like this?
[01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:51.920]  And you tell the court, first you tell the court that you have a certified copy of the deed, may I show it to the witness? And now you've established foundation for it.
[01:51:51.920 --> 01:52:01.920]  Okay, now this is my third trial. So this is the first time that I want to jump in and say, well, did you show this deed to the grand jury?
[01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:07.920]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm confused. What do you mean this is your third trial?
[01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:20.920]  This is my third trial. I went, I got a mistrial on the first one, lost the second one, went to prison for a year, got out, won my appeal and they're giving me a new trial.
[01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:22.920]  Okay.
[01:52:22.920 --> 01:52:30.920]  And so this is the first time that I'm going to go in. I just found out there are no transcripts from my grand jury and I've got the land title.
[01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:40.920]  So I basically want to ask him, when you went in front of the grand jury to testify and bring evidence, why didn't you show them this land title?
[01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:47.920]  Well, the thing is, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that indicates to me that you don't have an understanding of the function of the grand jury.
[01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:52.920]  The grand jury's job is not to determine innocence or guilt.
[01:52:52.920 --> 01:53:02.920]  The only duty of the grand jury is to determine whether or not there's enough facts present that a crime was potentially committed.
[01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:06.920]  And if they believe that's the case, to indict.
[01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:14.920]  They're not there for findings of fact as far as determinations of guilt or innocence or what's admissible or what's not.
[01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:17.920]  The grand jury doesn't touch that.
[01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:29.920]  The only thing they're given is enough information to say if these facts are what they are, is this enough evidence for you to believe that a crime was potentially committed?
[01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:33.920]  And if they agree, then they hand down an indictment, a true bill indictment.
[01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:40.920]  Well, if there's another issue, has your lawyer challenged the sufficiency of the indictment?
[01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:49.920]  No, and I wrote him a letter saying that you will challenge it, and he wrote me back saying that I should plead guilty.
[01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:57.920]  You should fire him. You should file suit against him now.
[01:53:57.920 --> 01:53:58.920]  Okay.
[01:53:58.920 --> 01:54:06.920]  Because I think you'll be restricted from filing suit against him after, if he causes you to lose the case.
[01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:08.920]  So file suit against him now.
[01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:13.920]  Yeah, because that's absolutely bad advice from your attorney.
[01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:14.920]  Okay.
[01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:20.920]  Having one your appeal.
[01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:21.920]  Say again.
[01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:28.920]  Having one your appeal, I'm of the mind that your attorney is intentionally throwing this case.
[01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:31.920]  You should sue him for that reason.
[01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:40.920]  Randy and I had talked a couple of weeks ago, and the idea that I gathered was to basically pin everything on him.
[01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:47.920]  And then when we got to court, just hold him up as a human shield and just pummel him.
[01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:49.920]  You mean the attorney?
[01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:53.920]  You need to pummel him before you get to court.
[01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:54.920]  Okay.
[01:54:54.920 --> 01:55:00.920]  You need him to run to the court for protection against you.
[01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:04.920]  So file suit against him before court starts.
[01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:06.920]  All right.
[01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:11.920]  Because after you're convicted, I don't think you can sue him.
[01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:13.920]  And that's kind of their protection.
[01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:19.920]  So if you sue him first, then he's kind of screwed.
[01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:25.920]  I still write him a tort letter, bar grieve, and then go ahead and sue him.
[01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:30.920]  Yeah, how long before your case comes up?
[01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.920]  20 days, August 4th.
[01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:34.920]  Just sue him.
[01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:36.920]  Sue him tomorrow.
[01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:37.920]  Okay.
[01:55:37.920 --> 01:55:39.920]  As soon as you can.
[01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:40.920]  Okay.
[01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:41.920]  Got it.
[01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:42.920]  Okay.
[01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:44.920]  I will call you guys back next Thursday.
[01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:45.920]  Okay.
[01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:46.920]  Wonderful.
[01:55:46.920 --> 01:55:48.920]  Thank you, Jeff.
[01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:50.920]  Thank you.
[01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:55.920]  Okay, now we're going to go to Kirk in Texas.
[01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:56.920]  Hello, Kirk.
[01:55:56.920 --> 01:55:58.920]  Hi, how are you doing guys?
[01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:00.920]  What do you have for us today?
[01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:03.920]  We've only got about three or four minutes left.
[01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:04.920]  Two minutes left.
[01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:05.920]  Okay.
[01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:06.920]  Two quick things.
[01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:10.920]  One, I talked to Eddie a couple of weeks ago about the red light camera thing.
[01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:12.920]  E-mail to Eddie.
[01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:15.920]  I haven't got a response back yet.
[01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:22.920]  I know you're busy, but just want some information, documentation on the red light camera stuff.
[01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:23.920]  You have?
[01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:25.920]  You sent me an e-mail for that?
[01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:26.920]  What e-mail address?
[01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:33.920]  I can't see you on the 23rd, and I just forwarded it again right now.
[01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:34.920]  Okay.
[01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:39.920]  I don't have anything, Kirk, to Soto?
[01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:41.920]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:56:41.920 --> 01:56:42.920]  Okay.
[01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:51.920]  Okay, the other thing was my wife was home the other day, and a cop showed up and gave
[01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:55.920]  an editor a notice of violation.
[01:56:55.920 --> 01:57:04.920]  And this is supposedly for high grass and weeds, city ordinance here, where we live.
[01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:07.920]  It's given me like 10 days to comply or whatever.
[01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:14.920]  The crazy part is, you know, it says grass weeds not to exceed 12 inches.
[01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:21.920]  I mean, I can't find anything on our property that exceeds 12 inches.
[01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:25.920]  Probably the longest is maybe six.
[01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:33.920]  We just barely bought this house, barely moved in, and so we just haven't had a chance to
[01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:38.920]  really do much close to being out of town for a funeral.
[01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:44.920]  I ordered a lawn mower, so I'm going to mow it as soon as it shows up, but I just don't
[01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:45.920]  want to...
[01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:46.920]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:48.920]  We're running out of time.
[01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:55.920]  If you don't have any grass now that's above six inches, I mean above 12 inches, photograph it.
[01:57:55.920 --> 01:58:02.920]  And then go back and file it against the officer for filing a project complaint.
[01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:03.920]  Okay.
[01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:08.920]  Now, the other thing is, I don't know who actually filed the complaint.
[01:58:08.920 --> 01:58:10.920]  Quickly, we're out of time.
[01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:14.920]  I don't know if it was a neighbor or a city worker.
[01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:16.920]  They probably just did it on a drive by.
[01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:19.920]  Nobody had to complain.
[01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:20.920]  Okay.
[01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:25.920]  If I pressed the officer, he probably still wouldn't tell me.
[01:58:25.920 --> 01:58:28.920]  I may not be anyone to tell you about.
[01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:31.920]  Yeah, okay, we only got about 20 seconds left.
[01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:36.920]  Go out there and take photographs of it and then go file a complaint against the officer.
[01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:37.920]  That's a lot more fun.
[01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:41.920]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens here with Eddie Craig.
[01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.920]  We'll be back tomorrow night on our four-hour info marathon.
[01:58:44.920 --> 01:59:13.920]  Thank you all for listening and good night.
[01:59:14.920 --> 01:59:40.920]  Thank you.
[01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:59.920]  Thank you.