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[03:25.000 --> 03:32.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:32.000 --> 03:38.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:38.000 --> 03:43.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits, you go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:43.000 --> 03:49.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get high, then you must get cool.
[03:49.000 --> 03:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:54.000 --> 04:21.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[04:24.000 --> 04:32.000]  To start with, I went to court today and I didn't get beaten into unconsciousness and thrown in jail.
[04:32.000 --> 04:44.000]  The bailiff did threaten to throw me out, but I insisted that I wouldn't leave him unless he handcuffed me.
[04:44.000 --> 04:51.000]  And he decided he didn't want to do that. So we kind of got that settled.
[04:51.000 --> 04:57.000]  I'm beginning to really go after these justices of the peace.
[04:57.000 --> 05:08.000]  They have gotten to where they absolutely believe that they can do anything they want to.
[05:08.000 --> 05:18.000]  I went in today and I had actually been sued in this forcible detainer hearing.
[05:18.000 --> 05:21.000]  I didn't really have anything to do with it.
[05:21.000 --> 05:27.000]  I had a quiet title in my name so that I could adjudicate this case,
[05:27.000 --> 05:30.000]  but I didn't have anything to do with possession of the property.
[05:30.000 --> 05:35.000]  But they sued me anyway. I guess they thought we were gonna be impressed by their suit.
[05:35.000 --> 05:49.000]  So what we're doing now on unlawful detainer is see the judge can only hear who has a right to possession.
[05:49.000 --> 05:54.000]  We're going in and saying, these guys don't have any standing.
[05:54.000 --> 05:57.000]  And the judges are saying, we can't hear that.
[05:57.000 --> 06:05.000]  So now we're going in saying, you don't have any subject matter jurisdiction
[06:05.000 --> 06:13.000]  because these guys didn't have standing to invoke your subject matter jurisdiction.
[06:13.000 --> 06:23.000]  And we have yet to have a single justice of the peace even read the motion.
[06:23.000 --> 06:30.000]  Not the motion, I'm sorry, the pleading. A challenge to subject matter jurisdiction is a plea.
[06:30.000 --> 06:33.000]  It's not a motion.
[06:33.000 --> 06:36.000]  And had a case law in front of them.
[06:36.000 --> 06:47.000]  Once a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction is filed, jurisdiction is lost, period.
[06:47.000 --> 06:56.000]  And the court does not get back jurisdiction until it proves jurisdiction.
[06:56.000 --> 07:00.000]  So in this case, that court didn't bother.
[07:00.000 --> 07:07.000]  They just went ahead and this is what we did with a judge in Garland, Texas.
[07:07.000 --> 07:10.000]  Now, I'm not going to mention that his name is Judge Cooper.
[07:10.000 --> 07:12.000]  I don't think we should mention that on air.
[07:12.000 --> 07:15.000]  So I'm not going to say that his name is Judge Cooper.
[07:15.000 --> 07:18.000]  I'll just let you all guess who it is.
[07:18.000 --> 07:24.000]  I filed a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction in his court and he refused to read it.
[07:24.000 --> 07:32.000]  And it showed that the foreclosure these folks were operating under
[07:32.000 --> 07:38.000]  was a foreclosure that had taken place eight years.
[07:38.000 --> 07:42.000]  There had already been one taken place eight years earlier.
[07:42.000 --> 07:46.000]  I'm sorry, 2008, four years earlier.
[07:46.000 --> 07:56.000]  And because of that previous foreclosure, once a foreclosure is had and there is a foreclosure sale,
[07:56.000 --> 08:05.000]  the party has two years to file an unlawful detainer hearing to get you removed from the property.
[08:05.000 --> 08:08.000]  Well, they didn't do it.
[08:08.000 --> 08:12.000]  So the statute of limitations had ran for two years.
[08:12.000 --> 08:18.000]  And it looks like they looked in the record and figured it out.
[08:18.000 --> 08:20.000]  They said, oops, we goofed.
[08:20.000 --> 08:24.000]  We foreclosed on this thing and for some reason didn't evict the person.
[08:24.000 --> 08:26.000]  I don't know why they didn't.
[08:26.000 --> 08:29.000]  And now the statute of limitations just ran.
[08:29.000 --> 08:32.000]  So what do we do now?
[08:32.000 --> 08:44.000]  So what they did was they had sold the property to federal mortgage, I forget, to Fannie Mae.
[08:44.000 --> 08:55.000]  And they put in an assignment from the original lender to Northstar.
[08:55.000 --> 09:03.000]  And then Northstar assigned a substitute trustee who held a sale and sold it back to Fannie Mae.
[09:03.000 --> 09:06.000]  The problem was Fannie Mae already owned it.
[09:06.000 --> 09:11.000]  And they ran this second foreclosure to hide the fact that they missed the first one,
[09:11.000 --> 09:16.000]  that they were out of time on the first one.
[09:16.000 --> 09:19.000]  So we challenged subject matter jurisdictions.
[09:19.000 --> 09:22.000]  Judges didn't read it.
[09:22.000 --> 09:28.000]  And then the judge ordered an eviction and sheriff's deputies with loaded pistols on their hips
[09:28.000 --> 09:36.000]  went out and physically removed this woman from the house she's been living in for 30 years, since 1984,
[09:36.000 --> 09:39.000]  threw her out in the street.
[09:39.000 --> 09:41.000]  Problem.
[09:41.000 --> 09:51.000]  Once subject matter jurisdiction was challenged, subject matter jurisdiction was lost.
[09:51.000 --> 10:00.000]  So the magistrate had no authority to order the eviction.
[10:00.000 --> 10:07.000]  So the magistrate, lacking authority, acted under the color of his authority
[10:07.000 --> 10:17.000]  and ordered people with loaded pistols to go out and exert or purport to exert an authority they did not expressly have.
[10:17.000 --> 10:26.000]  And under 2202B2A, that's an act of first-degree felony aggravated assault.
[10:26.000 --> 10:32.000]  Now the sheriff's deputies didn't commit first-degree felony aggravated assault,
[10:32.000 --> 10:36.000]  because they were acting in good faith with some competent authority.
[10:36.000 --> 10:39.000]  The JP did.
[10:39.000 --> 10:46.000]  Now, Mr. I'm going to dismiss your challenge to subject matter jurisdiction without even reading it.
[10:46.000 --> 10:52.000]  We'll see how this flies in front of a grand jury of our peers.
[10:52.000 --> 11:03.000]  We just went before a judge today, and he allowed the other side to non-suit me.
[11:03.000 --> 11:06.000]  The lawyer pulled a fast one on me.
[11:06.000 --> 11:08.000]  I didn't see that one coming.
[11:08.000 --> 11:12.000]  So she filed a motion for non-suit, and I objected.
[11:12.000 --> 11:16.000]  And the judge said, you're objecting to a non-suit? Yes, I am.
[11:16.000 --> 11:18.000]  You can't get to that non-suit.
[11:18.000 --> 11:22.000]  There is a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court,
[11:22.000 --> 11:29.000]  and the court can't get to anything until it's heard the challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[11:29.000 --> 11:31.000]  He said, well, I'm going to hear the motion.
[11:31.000 --> 11:36.000]  So he ignored the challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[11:36.000 --> 11:44.000]  And now, once they non-suited me, the other parties weren't there because I was there in their place.
[11:44.000 --> 11:56.000]  And under the property code, in a forcible detainer hearing, you can represent the person without being a lawyer.
[11:56.000 --> 12:02.000]  And the judge said I couldn't because I wasn't a lawyer and threw me out of the courtroom.
[12:02.000 --> 12:04.000]  So I'm sure he issued a default judgment.
[12:04.000 --> 12:09.000]  Now they're going to go out and evict these people at gunpoint,
[12:09.000 --> 12:15.000]  and I'll have another judge who will be charging the first degree felony aggravated assault.
[12:15.000 --> 12:18.000]  In this particular judge, I'll have a lot more complaints.
[12:18.000 --> 12:29.000]  This one is especially bad because the criminal accusations against the first judge, I filed with this judge.
[12:29.000 --> 12:40.000]  And his clerks sent me a letter back saying that they accepted the filing in error, that I should file it with the proper court.
[12:40.000 --> 12:44.000]  Well, sorry, Bubba, this was the proper court.
[12:44.000 --> 12:55.000]  So the judge had the criminal complaints of first degree felony aggravated assault before him against another judge,
[12:55.000 --> 13:03.000]  accusing him of that because he did exactly what this judge did.
[13:03.000 --> 13:13.000]  These guys are not rocket scientists, obviously, or they are absolutely certain that they will never,
[13:13.000 --> 13:20.000]  ever be prosecuted for anything that they do to a citizen.
[13:20.000 --> 13:26.000]  Now they might get prosecuted if they mess with a high level public official or something,
[13:26.000 --> 13:29.000]  but you and I, they're masters.
[13:29.000 --> 13:38.000]  They are certain they can do anything they want to with absolute impunity.
[13:38.000 --> 13:49.000]  Well, the reason I filed a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction is the only time you can sue a judge
[13:49.000 --> 13:54.000]  is when he acts without subject matter jurisdiction.
[13:54.000 --> 14:06.000]  And once subject matter jurisdiction is challenged, subject matter jurisdiction as a matter of law is lost.
[14:06.000 --> 14:16.000]  So both these judges, actually I have five judges that entered a ruling
[14:16.000 --> 14:22.000]  with a challenge subject matter jurisdiction before the court without reading the challenge.
[14:22.000 --> 14:27.000]  Not all of them have had the person evicted. They've tried to, but they haven't got it done yet.
[14:27.000 --> 14:35.000]  So as these people get evicted, I'll charge first degree felony aggravated assault against them.
[14:35.000 --> 14:38.000]  And we'll see how this works out for them.
[14:38.000 --> 14:44.000]  I'm just going to do my best to welcome them to the deep end of the pool.
[14:44.000 --> 14:50.000]  Okay. Enough on that. We have a couple of callers and we have Jeff from Mississippi back.
[14:50.000 --> 14:55.000]  Jeff, how are things going in Hillbilly land?
[14:55.000 --> 14:58.000]  Yes, they are going great. Hi, Randy.
[14:58.000 --> 15:02.000]  Howdy. You sound upbeat. I hope this is good news.
[15:02.000 --> 15:06.000]  Well, actually my trial has taken another turn.
[15:06.000 --> 15:13.000]  The last time I called I had been to prison and my trial was up on appeal.
[15:13.000 --> 15:20.000]  And then I actually won a remand for a retrial from the Supreme Court.
[15:20.000 --> 15:24.000]  And so I called you and now it's taken another twist.
[15:24.000 --> 15:31.000]  The state, their appeals attorney has filed a motion for reconsideration.
[15:31.000 --> 15:38.000]  So it looks like my case is back in the appeals court for reconsideration.
[15:38.000 --> 15:42.000]  And my appeals attorney is back representing me.
[15:42.000 --> 15:47.000]  Is this the one you felt like was throwing you under the bus?
[15:47.000 --> 15:50.000]  Oh, yeah. I've already filed four bar complaints against her.
[15:50.000 --> 15:55.000]  And I got to say that it doesn't seem to affect any one of these people.
[15:55.000 --> 16:00.000]  I've called down there and it turns out that these people are bopping around the courthouse
[16:00.000 --> 16:03.000]  just as happy as little kids in the park.
[16:03.000 --> 16:07.000]  And it just seems like these kids are just getting thrown in the trash.
[16:07.000 --> 16:13.000]  Then you might look at a malpractice suit against the lawyer.
[16:13.000 --> 16:17.000]  Okay.
[16:17.000 --> 16:19.000]  That'll at least get her attention.
[16:19.000 --> 16:22.000]  Okay. That's interesting. Okay.
[16:22.000 --> 16:28.000]  But, okay, hold on. If this lawyer threw you under the bus,
[16:28.000 --> 16:32.000]  how did she get the appeal turned over?
[16:32.000 --> 16:33.000]  I don't know.
[16:33.000 --> 16:37.000]  Or was the case just that bad?
[16:37.000 --> 16:40.000]  Okay. Hang on. We're about to go to break.
[16:40.000 --> 16:44.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rue of La Radio.
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[19:53.000 --> 20:11.000]  Okay, we are back.
[20:11.000 --> 20:16.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi.
[20:16.000 --> 20:24.000]  Okay, Jeff, how did she get the first trial overturned?
[20:24.000 --> 20:31.000]  Oh, and by the way, the motion for reconsideration is just huffing and puffing.
[20:31.000 --> 20:36.000]  Very unlikely that the Court of Appeals is going to reverse itself.
[20:36.000 --> 20:40.000]  Oh, okay. So they're just basically buying time.
[20:40.000 --> 20:41.000]  Yes.
[20:41.000 --> 20:46.000]  Okay, because even when the attorney wrote me the letter,
[20:46.000 --> 20:52.000]  she stated that it could be another six to nine months.
[20:52.000 --> 20:56.000]  Well, I'll take you back, and I'll try to keep it really short.
[20:56.000 --> 21:05.000]  During the trial, the prosecutor refused to bring in the witness that had first-hand knowledge.
[21:05.000 --> 21:11.000]  And I challenged that. In fact, I threw a fit, and I threw a fit so bad
[21:11.000 --> 21:16.000]  that my attorney had no choice but to stand up and kind of join in.
[21:16.000 --> 21:21.000]  And she even said that this is ridiculous. We need to have this witness.
[21:21.000 --> 21:25.000]  There was a witness that filed a statement, but they didn't bring him to court.
[21:25.000 --> 21:28.000]  And so I just went ballistic.
[21:28.000 --> 21:35.000]  And so my attorney wanted to find out who this mysterious witness, because no one knew who it was.
[21:35.000 --> 21:40.000]  And so what the judge allowed was he allowed the statement to come in,
[21:40.000 --> 21:43.000]  but they were supposed to redact his identity.
[21:43.000 --> 21:51.000]  Well, fortunately, my attorney found out who this hidden witness was.
[21:51.000 --> 21:53.000]  They didn't redact it very well.
[21:53.000 --> 21:59.000]  And so she stood up in the courtroom and said, I now know who this mysterious witness is,
[21:59.000 --> 22:02.000]  but my client does not. I'm the client.
[22:02.000 --> 22:08.000]  So she said, I have to withdraw from the case because now it's a conflict of interest
[22:08.000 --> 22:16.000]  because I don't know how to tell my client how to proceed because I know the witness and he doesn't,
[22:16.000 --> 22:22.000]  so I'm withdrawing. I need to withdraw. And the judge refused to let her withdraw.
[22:22.000 --> 22:26.000]  And that's what my appeals attorney filed in her brief,
[22:26.000 --> 22:34.000]  is that I was denied counsel because the attorney was not allowed to withdraw.
[22:34.000 --> 22:35.000]  Oh.
[22:35.000 --> 22:39.000]  Then the Supreme Court came back and said, you know, we agree with that,
[22:39.000 --> 22:45.000]  that Mr. Hill should have had counsel, so we're going to give him a new trial.
[22:45.000 --> 22:48.000]  So you had a compromised counsel.
[22:48.000 --> 22:50.000]  I guess, yeah.
[22:50.000 --> 22:53.000]  That's an interesting thing to get an appeal over.
[22:53.000 --> 22:59.000]  So it wasn't on an error in what they did in the case.
[22:59.000 --> 23:03.000]  Well, I challenged during court, they had no documentation.
[23:03.000 --> 23:07.000]  What had happened is I got arrested for having my rifle in my apartment,
[23:07.000 --> 23:11.000]  but my apartment was across the street from campus.
[23:11.000 --> 23:14.000]  So it was not physically on campus.
[23:14.000 --> 23:18.000]  And I kept saying, does anyone have the land title or do you have any documentation
[23:18.000 --> 23:21.000]  that you actually own or operate these apartments?
[23:21.000 --> 23:24.000]  And the people, the witnesses that came to court said,
[23:24.000 --> 23:28.000]  no, actually we don't have any documentation that says that,
[23:28.000 --> 23:30.000]  and we don't have a land title.
[23:30.000 --> 23:33.000]  The prosecutor chuckled and said, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
[23:33.000 --> 23:35.000]  I don't need a land title.
[23:35.000 --> 23:38.000]  I mean, that's how arrogant and bold these people were.
[23:38.000 --> 23:42.000]  And so I fired off a bunch of nasty letters to my appeals attorney
[23:42.000 --> 23:47.000]  because she did not put that in the brief, that there was no documentation.
[23:47.000 --> 23:52.000]  She just went on this other deal about me not having counsel.
[23:52.000 --> 23:56.000]  So to me, it looked like I was getting ripped off, but I don't know.
[23:56.000 --> 23:58.000]  You could shed some more light on that.
[23:58.000 --> 24:02.000]  Well, she did get it overturned.
[24:02.000 --> 24:08.000]  But she didn't get it overturned on issues that would prevent them
[24:08.000 --> 24:12.000]  from doing the same thing again.
[24:12.000 --> 24:17.000]  And the problem with an appeal is they got you a new trial.
[24:17.000 --> 24:25.000]  The rest of it would have made no difference because it's a new trial.
[24:25.000 --> 24:29.000]  So the other stuff would have got you a new trial.
[24:29.000 --> 24:31.000]  Big deal.
[24:31.000 --> 24:33.000]  Now you might have got a ruling saying they had to produce it.
[24:33.000 --> 24:35.000]  That would have been nice.
[24:35.000 --> 24:38.000]  And that may come in the next appeal.
[24:38.000 --> 24:41.000]  You mean to produce the hidden witness?
[24:41.000 --> 24:42.000]  Yes.
[24:42.000 --> 24:43.000]  Okay.
[24:43.000 --> 24:49.000]  That goes to who's charging you.
[24:49.000 --> 24:52.000]  And you have a right to face the witnesses against you.
[24:52.000 --> 24:58.000]  This is basic constitutional.
[24:58.000 --> 25:03.000]  So I wonder why they're challenging this.
[25:03.000 --> 25:11.000]  This is not something that goes to the merits of the case.
[25:11.000 --> 25:13.000]  Okay.
[25:13.000 --> 25:17.000]  So why they would challenge that.
[25:17.000 --> 25:21.000]  Oh, I know why they would challenge that.
[25:21.000 --> 25:25.000]  Because if they don't get a reconsideration, they're not going to retry.
[25:25.000 --> 25:27.000]  Okay.
[25:27.000 --> 25:30.000]  This is their only shot.
[25:30.000 --> 25:36.000]  They got to make this conviction stick or the whole thing goes out the window
[25:36.000 --> 25:39.000]  and you come back and see the crap out of them.
[25:39.000 --> 25:42.000]  Well, here's what you had told me before.
[25:42.000 --> 25:46.000]  And just to catch the listeners up, when I got out of prison,
[25:46.000 --> 25:51.000]  going back to the land title, I ran straight to City Hall and I got the land title.
[25:51.000 --> 25:57.000]  And it says that it's a private realtor company that owns those apartments.
[25:57.000 --> 26:01.000]  And I fired off about 20 nasty letters to my appeals attorney saying,
[26:01.000 --> 26:02.000]  here's the land title.
[26:02.000 --> 26:03.000]  You need to get this in.
[26:03.000 --> 26:06.000]  And she would write me back saying, no, it's too late.
[26:06.000 --> 26:09.000]  I'm not going to do that, you know, this and that.
[26:09.000 --> 26:14.000]  So if I get a new trial, I'm going to waltz right in there with that land title
[26:14.000 --> 26:16.000]  and I'm going to beat everybody.
[26:16.000 --> 26:17.000]  And they know that.
[26:17.000 --> 26:23.000]  So the only thing they can do is keep you from getting a new trial
[26:23.000 --> 26:28.000]  because they won't have a chance in a new trial.
[26:28.000 --> 26:30.000]  And they already know that.
[26:30.000 --> 26:34.000]  I'll walk in with that land title and that's going to be it.
[26:34.000 --> 26:36.000]  And that's where I'm going to hit them hardest, too,
[26:36.000 --> 26:38.000]  because I didn't know this at the time.
[26:38.000 --> 26:42.000]  I kept challenging jurisdiction, but I never had a basis.
[26:42.000 --> 26:46.000]  Hang on, Jeff.
[26:46.000 --> 26:51.000]  I've got someone hanging off a water tower in South Texas.
[26:51.000 --> 26:54.000]  Can you hang on and let me take Pat?
[26:54.000 --> 26:59.000]  Pat has to crawl up the water tower in order to get a signal.
[26:59.000 --> 27:05.000]  So let me take Pat and I'll come right back to you.
[27:05.000 --> 27:06.000]  Okay?
[27:06.000 --> 27:07.000]  All right.
[27:07.000 --> 27:09.000]  Okay, thank you.
[27:09.000 --> 27:10.000]  Okay.
[27:10.000 --> 27:11.000]  Pat?
[27:11.000 --> 27:12.000]  Yes, sir.
[27:12.000 --> 27:14.000]  You there?
[27:14.000 --> 27:20.000]  You hanging on that water tower again.
[27:20.000 --> 27:28.000]  Steve tells me that you filed some complaints with the Chief Justice
[27:28.000 --> 27:30.000]  and they were returned unanswered.
[27:30.000 --> 27:33.000]  They were returned unanswered, the whole packet.
[27:33.000 --> 27:35.000]  Oh, wonderful.
[27:35.000 --> 27:40.000]  And now we're going to go ahead and file directly either with the grand jury in Austin
[27:40.000 --> 27:46.000]  or with the DA's office in Austin to see if we can overload that DA, too.
[27:46.000 --> 27:52.000]  I would suggest that you file with the Attorney General.
[27:52.000 --> 27:54.000]  Oh, we can.
[27:54.000 --> 27:56.000]  He's running for office.
[27:56.000 --> 27:58.000]  He's running for office, too.
[27:58.000 --> 28:00.000]  I guess I can...
[28:00.000 --> 28:05.000]  You know, he has concurrent jurisdiction with the prosecuting attorney.
[28:05.000 --> 28:09.000]  And he's going to tell you, we really need to file these prosecuting attorney
[28:09.000 --> 28:12.000]  because we can only prosecute with his permission.
[28:12.000 --> 28:13.000]  Not true.
[28:13.000 --> 28:14.000]  No.
[28:14.000 --> 28:19.000]  Well, we got a couple of problems and that's why we dumped everything
[28:19.000 --> 28:21.000]  on the Chief Justice's lab.
[28:21.000 --> 28:26.000]  I'm sitting on the grand jury out in my county and sitting next to me,
[28:26.000 --> 28:31.000]  and I know my wife had talked to you about this, we got the county attorney sitting there.
[28:31.000 --> 28:36.000]  Well, the county attorney is taking an oath as a prosecutor for the state
[28:36.000 --> 28:39.000]  who's getting paid by the state not to take any actions,
[28:39.000 --> 28:42.000]  not to do anything against the interests of the state.
[28:42.000 --> 28:51.000]  That makes the county attorney an unqualified jury member
[28:51.000 --> 28:58.000]  because the county attorney cannot be unbiased.
[28:58.000 --> 28:59.000]  That's...
[28:59.000 --> 29:03.000]  I've had that issue come up before,
[29:03.000 --> 29:10.000]  and I can't find anything in law that disqualifies a county attorney.
[29:10.000 --> 29:11.000]  No.
[29:11.000 --> 29:14.000]  A district attorney would be disqualified.
[29:14.000 --> 29:20.000]  The district attorney and the county attorney are both licensed
[29:20.000 --> 29:26.000]  by the governor's office to be prosecutors for the state.
[29:26.000 --> 29:34.000]  And all, since the VA is not in our county, but because it's molded county,
[29:34.000 --> 29:40.000]  all county attorneys are prosecutors for that county.
[29:40.000 --> 29:44.000]  I still haven't found anything that prevents him from sitting on the grand jury.
[29:44.000 --> 29:49.000]  Now, if you see that he does anything that appears to be biased,
[29:49.000 --> 29:52.000]  then you get to go after him.
[29:52.000 --> 29:53.000]  Hang on.
[29:53.000 --> 29:55.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue of our radio.
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[34:23.000 --> 34:24.000]  We are back.
[34:24.000 --> 34:30.000]  We're in Kelton, Debra Stevens with Live Radio, and we're talking to Pat in Texas.
[34:30.000 --> 34:31.000]  Yeah.
[34:31.000 --> 34:37.000]  Anyway, we got everything back from the good chief justice's office,
[34:37.000 --> 34:43.000]  from him stating that he doesn't do the criminal complaints.
[34:43.000 --> 34:46.000]  Well, we'll see how that works for him.
[34:46.000 --> 34:55.000]  Article 2.10, 2.11, when you read 2.09, Code of Criminal Procedure.
[34:55.000 --> 34:56.000]  Yeah.
[34:56.000 --> 34:59.000]  Who are magistrates?
[34:59.000 --> 35:00.000]  Oh, I understand.
[35:00.000 --> 35:02.000]  First one.
[35:02.000 --> 35:05.000]  So this is Ms. Feesenson's office.
[35:05.000 --> 35:11.000]  Randy, the cover letter over the complaint lined it all out.
[35:11.000 --> 35:22.000]  We'd paste it in the TCCP verbiage verbatim.
[35:22.000 --> 35:23.000]  Wait, which letter?
[35:23.000 --> 35:24.000]  Is this the one you sent him?
[35:24.000 --> 35:25.000]  Well, yeah.
[35:25.000 --> 35:29.000]  Yeah, it was the cover letter for the complaints going into him,
[35:29.000 --> 35:36.000]  getting him to do, invoking his duties as a magistrate.
[35:36.000 --> 35:44.000]  So I'm wondering if we could sue for a writ of mandamus,
[35:44.000 --> 35:47.000]  ordering him to perform his duty as a magistrate.
[35:47.000 --> 35:49.000]  Well, that's fine, but who do you go to?
[35:49.000 --> 35:52.000]  You know, he's top of the feeding chain.
[35:52.000 --> 35:53.000]  A district court?
[35:53.000 --> 35:56.000]  No, he's not top of anything in this case.
[35:56.000 --> 35:59.000]  He's a defendant.
[35:59.000 --> 36:06.000]  Let him come before a district court and show why he refused to perform a duty.
[36:06.000 --> 36:09.000]  Well, we'd have to see an option.
[36:09.000 --> 36:10.000]  You need a Democratic judge.
[36:10.000 --> 36:13.000]  Is he a Republican?
[36:13.000 --> 36:16.000]  Yeah, he's a Republican, isn't he?
[36:16.000 --> 36:20.000]  Okay, we need a Democratic judge.
[36:20.000 --> 36:21.000]  This is politics.
[36:21.000 --> 36:22.000]  Everything's political.
[36:22.000 --> 36:25.000]  He's running for re-election right now anyway.
[36:25.000 --> 36:27.000]  Oh, this is perfect.
[36:27.000 --> 36:30.000]  Yeah, whoever's running against him, I guess we could give it to them
[36:30.000 --> 36:34.000]  and let them kind of chomp on it a little bit.
[36:34.000 --> 36:39.000]  Send the criminal complaints to his running mate, I mean, his opponent.
[36:39.000 --> 36:42.000]  That would be wonderful.
[36:42.000 --> 36:43.000]  Let me know who it is.
[36:43.000 --> 36:46.000]  I got about 30 alpha on him.
[36:46.000 --> 36:49.000]  I just wanted to let you know that this is what's going on right now.
[36:49.000 --> 36:53.000]  We got a bunch of other stuff we're stirring up, so I'll drop off.
[36:53.000 --> 36:55.000]  You get back to the guy up there.
[36:55.000 --> 36:56.000]  No, no, no, don't drop off.
[36:56.000 --> 36:58.000]  Just climb down.
[36:58.000 --> 36:59.000]  Climb down.
[36:59.000 --> 37:00.000]  There you go.
[37:00.000 --> 37:04.000]  I don't have a parachute, so I won't drop far.
[37:04.000 --> 37:05.000]  Okay.
[37:05.000 --> 37:06.000]  Thank you, Pat.
[37:06.000 --> 37:08.000]  Yeah, we'll catch you later.
[37:08.000 --> 37:09.000]  Okay.
[37:09.000 --> 37:12.000]  We're going back to Jeff.
[37:12.000 --> 37:13.000]  Sorry, Jeff.
[37:13.000 --> 37:14.000]  Sorry about that interruption.
[37:14.000 --> 37:17.000]  That's fine, everybody.
[37:17.000 --> 37:29.000]  Okay, so they're trying to get the appeals court ruling overturned,
[37:29.000 --> 37:34.000]  and the only reason they can be doing that is they know if they try to retry you,
[37:34.000 --> 37:35.000]  then it's over for them.
[37:35.000 --> 37:39.000]  They probably don't have their witness anyway.
[37:39.000 --> 37:42.000]  They never did.
[37:42.000 --> 37:45.000]  The witness was lost, and that came out in court
[37:45.000 --> 37:51.000]  because they admitted that they couldn't find him.
[37:51.000 --> 37:56.000]  And the appeals court actually, in their decision,
[37:56.000 --> 38:01.000]  came out and named the witness and said that he couldn't be found.
[38:01.000 --> 38:04.000]  Oh, so they're telling them, you can't retry this guy.
[38:04.000 --> 38:06.000]  You're toast.
[38:06.000 --> 38:10.000]  And now they're going to come back and ask for reconsideration.
[38:10.000 --> 38:16.000]  It depends on how corrupt the court is, but I can't see them overturning
[38:16.000 --> 38:19.000]  because this will go to the Supreme,
[38:19.000 --> 38:25.000]  and the Supreme is not going to trash all of their standing law
[38:25.000 --> 38:33.000]  in order to keep this prosecutor, let this prosecutor save face.
[38:33.000 --> 38:40.000]  This probably should go to some serious accusations against the prosecutor.
[38:40.000 --> 38:44.000]  You said the witness couldn't be found.
[38:44.000 --> 38:45.000]  Yes.
[38:45.000 --> 38:49.000]  Could he not be found when the trial was going on?
[38:49.000 --> 38:50.000]  No.
[38:50.000 --> 38:55.000]  What had happened, the witness turns out to be my roommate,
[38:55.000 --> 39:01.000]  and there's a lot of speculation as to why he would turn me in for having a rifle,
[39:01.000 --> 39:06.000]  but it turns out that when I was gone, he took my bedroom and turned it into a game room.
[39:06.000 --> 39:10.000]  So we never had any bad blood against each other,
[39:10.000 --> 39:15.000]  and I'm sure he didn't figure out that this would go this far.
[39:15.000 --> 39:20.000]  But in trial, they claimed that the roommate had gotten drunk
[39:20.000 --> 39:23.000]  and gotten kicked out of school, and so they admitted,
[39:23.000 --> 39:27.000]  the policeman admitted that, no, we can't find the roommate.
[39:27.000 --> 39:31.000]  So during the trial, they couldn't face you with your accuser?
[39:31.000 --> 39:32.000]  Exactly.
[39:32.000 --> 39:36.000]  And they knew they couldn't face you with their accuser?
[39:36.000 --> 39:37.000]  Uh-huh.
[39:37.000 --> 39:42.000]  And later on in the trial, the policeman admitted that he acted on a phone tip,
[39:42.000 --> 39:45.000]  and so I said, who made the phone call?
[39:45.000 --> 39:49.000]  And that's when the prosecutor objected and said that it was a criminal informant,
[39:49.000 --> 39:52.000]  and his identity needs to be kept secret.
[39:52.000 --> 39:56.000]  Well, when I started acting like a monkey and getting real loud,
[39:56.000 --> 39:58.000]  my attorney, for some reason, stood up and said,
[39:58.000 --> 40:04.000]  you know, I believe that the informant is the roommate who just disappeared,
[40:04.000 --> 40:08.000]  and because you can't find him, you're calling him a criminal informant,
[40:08.000 --> 40:10.000]  and you're trying to keep him secret.
[40:10.000 --> 40:13.000]  And she actually said that for the record.
[40:13.000 --> 40:18.000]  Ooh, and that's going to turn out to be exactly what the case is.
[40:18.000 --> 40:21.000]  And so this fellow, you know, just disappeared.
[40:21.000 --> 40:24.000]  Yeah, we can't find him.
[40:24.000 --> 40:25.000]  Oh, my.
[40:25.000 --> 40:30.000]  The judge actually brought his statement in,
[40:30.000 --> 40:35.000]  and I kept objecting because I demanded on seeing it, and the judge sealed it.
[40:35.000 --> 40:42.000]  And that's where my attorney accidentally saw that it was the roommate's name.
[40:42.000 --> 40:47.000]  And so she asked to withdraw, and then he refused.
[40:47.000 --> 40:52.000]  And it's on the record, they had an ex parte meeting,
[40:52.000 --> 40:57.000]  and I do have those transcripts, when they brought the lady in,
[40:57.000 --> 41:04.000]  or my attorney, she said to the judge, I would direct Mr. Hill for a mistrial.
[41:04.000 --> 41:06.000]  And the judge said, well, we're not going to do that,
[41:06.000 --> 41:08.000]  so let's bring in another attorney.
[41:08.000 --> 41:12.000]  And the other attorney came in, another public defender.
[41:12.000 --> 41:19.000]  He enters the room, and so the judge spills the beans on where we were in the case.
[41:19.000 --> 41:22.000]  And the other public defender also said, well,
[41:22.000 --> 41:25.000]  since we've got this weird thing with a hidden witness,
[41:25.000 --> 41:31.000]  but we know who it is and this and that, I would also direct Mr. Hill for a mistrial.
[41:31.000 --> 41:34.000]  And the judge said, well, then in that case, you're free to go,
[41:34.000 --> 41:39.000]  and miss so-and-so, you have to stay on his case.
[41:39.000 --> 41:47.000]  So he's fishing for a lawyer who will deny you in a proper adjudication.
[41:47.000 --> 41:49.000]  Okay.
[41:49.000 --> 41:53.000]  That absolutely goes to disqualify the judge.
[41:53.000 --> 41:56.000]  And I wish I knew all that during trial.
[41:56.000 --> 41:57.000]  Yeah.
[41:57.000 --> 42:01.000]  I could have just been hitting home runs in the courtroom.
[42:01.000 --> 42:04.000]  You can still disqualify the judge.
[42:04.000 --> 42:05.000]  Okay.
[42:05.000 --> 42:09.000]  You need to move to disqualify.
[42:09.000 --> 42:17.000]  And that could also go to habeas corpus.
[42:17.000 --> 42:20.000]  They filed a motion for reconsideration.
[42:20.000 --> 42:22.000]  You should file habeas corpus.
[42:22.000 --> 42:29.000]  Now, my attorney has written me a threatening letter saying that I can file anything that I want to,
[42:29.000 --> 42:32.000]  but that relieves her from my case.
[42:32.000 --> 42:36.000]  She gets to withdraw.
[42:36.000 --> 42:41.000]  The problem, you give her the habeas, and if she doesn't, you sue her.
[42:41.000 --> 42:42.000]  Okay.
[42:42.000 --> 42:43.000]  So I can type up the habeas.
[42:43.000 --> 42:45.000]  I would like to enter the land title.
[42:45.000 --> 42:48.000]  Can I still do that?
[42:48.000 --> 42:49.000]  Not in it.
[42:49.000 --> 42:56.000]  Well, no, that's not before the appeals court.
[42:56.000 --> 42:57.000]  Got it.
[42:57.000 --> 42:58.000]  Okay.
[42:58.000 --> 43:00.000]  So it doesn't do me any good to enter the land title.
[43:00.000 --> 43:01.000]  No.
[43:01.000 --> 43:08.000]  The only thing before the appeals court is the issue with compromised counsel.
[43:08.000 --> 43:11.000]  Got it.
[43:11.000 --> 43:14.000]  Well, yeah, that's what the appeal is on.
[43:14.000 --> 43:21.000]  That's all that's before it, so anything else won't make any difference.
[43:21.000 --> 43:22.000]  Okay.
[43:22.000 --> 43:25.000]  Is that the only issue the lawyer appealed on?
[43:25.000 --> 43:38.000]  Well, the second issue, which seemed really, really phony to me, was that they made this adjudication against overwhelming evidence.
[43:38.000 --> 43:40.000]  That is a really good one.
[43:40.000 --> 43:42.000]  That's perfect.
[43:42.000 --> 43:43.000]  That's right.
[43:43.000 --> 43:44.000]  Hang on.
[43:44.000 --> 43:47.000]  About to go to break.
[43:47.000 --> 43:52.000]  That's when you get to bring in all the evidence you had then and bring in your new evidence.
[43:52.000 --> 43:53.000]  Hang on.
[43:53.000 --> 43:55.000]  It's a bad idea.
[43:55.000 --> 43:57.000]  It's really, really cool.
[43:57.000 --> 43:58.000]  Hang on.
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[44:03.000 --> 44:08.000]  This time, it's a real risk.
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[46:22.400 --> 46:44.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Jeff from Mississippi.
[46:44.400 --> 46:47.400]  We do need to wrap this up. We've got a whole bunch of calls.
[46:47.400 --> 46:48.400]  Okay.
[46:48.400 --> 46:58.400]  But it looks like they're doing a last ditch effort to try to bail out their...
[46:58.400 --> 47:04.400]  Well, real quick, I'm going to read just a paragraph of my decision that will straighten it all out.
[47:04.400 --> 47:07.400]  Hill challenges conviction based on the following two issues.
[47:07.400 --> 47:11.400]  Whether Hill's right to counsel on the fair trial under the Sixth Amendment was violated.
[47:11.400 --> 47:16.400]  When the trial court refused to allow Hill's court appointed counsel to withdraw.
[47:16.400 --> 47:22.400]  And two, whether the trial court erred when it failed to grant Hill's motion for a new trial on the ground
[47:22.400 --> 47:28.400]  that the verdict was against the overwhelming weight of evidence.
[47:28.400 --> 47:33.400]  Finding errors to the first issue, we reverse Hill's conviction and remand the case.
[47:33.400 --> 47:34.400]  Here's the fun part.
[47:34.400 --> 47:42.400]  We decline to address the second issue concerning whether the verdict was against overwhelming weight of evidence.
[47:42.400 --> 47:44.400]  That's because they didn't need to.
[47:44.400 --> 47:46.400]  Got it.
[47:46.400 --> 47:50.400]  If they reconsider the first, then they go to the second.
[47:50.400 --> 47:52.400]  Okay.
[47:52.400 --> 48:00.400]  So these guys, they're just doing a, you know, this is just making waves.
[48:00.400 --> 48:05.400]  They're buying time. They're relatively sure they're not going to win this one.
[48:05.400 --> 48:07.400]  Oh, okay.
[48:07.400 --> 48:12.400]  That's the only chance is to overturn this.
[48:12.400 --> 48:13.400]  Okay.
[48:13.400 --> 48:17.400]  Unless it's much more corrupt than I expected.
[48:17.400 --> 48:25.400]  But if they overturn this, then you get to appeal both issues to the Supreme.
[48:25.400 --> 48:28.400]  And you can bring, then you can bring in new evidence.
[48:28.400 --> 48:30.400]  Really?
[48:30.400 --> 48:31.400]  Oh yeah.
[48:31.400 --> 48:33.400]  This evidence wasn't available at the time.
[48:33.400 --> 48:34.400]  Nice.
[48:34.400 --> 48:40.400]  To support the whole issues about this witness.
[48:40.400 --> 48:44.400]  Now you can bring in evidence to show that the witness had disappeared.
[48:44.400 --> 48:48.400]  The prosecution knew the witness had disappeared.
[48:48.400 --> 48:52.400]  Could not produce the witness, even if the judge ordered it.
[48:52.400 --> 48:56.400]  And that's the reason they did this, not for a proper adjudication of the case.
[48:56.400 --> 49:00.400]  And evidence to support that, now you can bring that back in.
[49:00.400 --> 49:01.400]  Okay.
[49:01.400 --> 49:05.400]  Do I need to do anything right now?
[49:05.400 --> 49:08.400]  No, your lawyer will write an objection.
[49:08.400 --> 49:14.400]  It's all based on proper representation.
[49:14.400 --> 49:18.400]  So your lawyer will handle that.
[49:18.400 --> 49:19.400]  Okay.
[49:19.400 --> 49:20.400]  So probably not.
[49:20.400 --> 49:21.400]  Let this play out.
[49:21.400 --> 49:25.400]  Because if they reconsider, then you get to go to the Supreme.
[49:25.400 --> 49:28.400]  Unlikely they're going to reconsider.
[49:28.400 --> 49:29.400]  Got it.
[49:29.400 --> 49:30.400]  Okay.
[49:30.400 --> 49:32.400]  Well, thank you very much and I'll call next week.
[49:32.400 --> 49:33.400]  Alrighty.
[49:33.400 --> 49:34.400]  Okay.
[49:34.400 --> 49:37.400]  Now we're going to Susan in Florida.
[49:37.400 --> 49:38.400]  Susan.
[49:38.400 --> 49:39.400]  Hi, Randy.
[49:39.400 --> 49:40.400]  How are you?
[49:40.400 --> 49:41.400]  I'm good.
[49:41.400 --> 49:42.400]  Good.
[49:42.400 --> 49:43.400]  Good.
[49:43.400 --> 49:51.400]  I talked to you, I think, last week and you were just, we were talking about the grand
[49:51.400 --> 49:56.400]  jury and getting a complaint in front of the grand jury.
[49:56.400 --> 49:57.400]  Yes.
[49:57.400 --> 50:03.400]  Able to call you the next day, but I wanted to, you know, finish the conversation.
[50:03.400 --> 50:06.400]  Where were we?
[50:06.400 --> 50:11.400]  Really to ask about, you know, to go about doing a citizen's arrest.
[50:11.400 --> 50:14.400]  How would you maybe do that?
[50:14.400 --> 50:19.400]  I would not ever do a citizen's arrest of a public official.
[50:19.400 --> 50:21.400]  Okay.
[50:21.400 --> 50:28.400]  All that will get you is beaten into unconsciousness and thrown in jail.
[50:28.400 --> 50:34.400]  The whole thing, what makes this work best?
[50:34.400 --> 50:40.400]  The next call is from Johnson County and it was in Johnson County that a prosecuting attorney
[50:40.400 --> 50:47.400]  called me after she had asked me to take my criminal complaints to the sheriff and I refused.
[50:47.400 --> 50:52.400]  She called me a week later and said, Mr. Kelton, I filed your complaints with the sheriff and
[50:52.400 --> 50:57.400]  the sheriff sent them back, said he couldn't do anything with them as there were complaints
[50:57.400 --> 50:58.400]  against him in there.
[50:58.400 --> 51:01.400]  And I said, well, yes, as a matter of fact, there were.
[51:01.400 --> 51:07.400]  She said, Mr. Kelton, I get the impression you planned this this way.
[51:07.400 --> 51:11.400]  Well, Miss Wyatt, I'm impressed.
[51:11.400 --> 51:13.400]  You're very astute.
[51:13.400 --> 51:18.400]  I hope you don't think this is my first rodeo.
[51:18.400 --> 51:25.400]  By that, she had the impression that I set her up.
[51:25.400 --> 51:28.400]  She was right.
[51:28.400 --> 51:30.400]  You never want to arrest one of these officials.
[51:30.400 --> 51:37.400]  You never ask an official to do what you actually want them to do because you're setting them
[51:37.400 --> 51:45.400]  up so you can go to another official and use that official to clobber the first one.
[51:45.400 --> 51:49.400]  Learn this in the military.
[51:49.400 --> 51:56.400]  In the military, if you go into a military base and anybody gives you a problem as a
[51:56.400 --> 52:03.400]  civilian, you could go to the base commander, just chew him out like an errand stepchild.
[52:03.400 --> 52:06.400]  And he's going to be real unhappy about that.
[52:06.400 --> 52:11.400]  But he's going to be real polite to you because you're a citizen and on a military base.
[52:11.400 --> 52:16.400]  The only thing higher than a commanding general is a citizen.
[52:16.400 --> 52:22.400]  They recognize that we're the baddest motor scooter out there because they can call down
[52:22.400 --> 52:27.400]  the commanding general's throat and there's nothing he can do about it except when you
[52:27.400 --> 52:30.400]  get done chewing out the general.
[52:30.400 --> 52:35.400]  The general's going to get the guy below him and chew him out and he's going to get the
[52:35.400 --> 52:39.400]  guy below him and chew him out and when he gets to the guy at the bottom, he is in big
[52:39.400 --> 52:43.400]  trouble and nobody cares what he did.
[52:43.400 --> 52:50.400]  They just want to make sure it never happens again.
[52:50.400 --> 52:57.400]  Pat, who is calling from South Texas, filed criminal charges with the chief justice of
[52:57.400 --> 53:00.400]  the Supreme Court.
[53:00.400 --> 53:06.400]  And the way we usually get there is we start where you're at, right at the bottom.
[53:06.400 --> 53:07.400]  Go to the first person.
[53:07.400 --> 53:10.400]  They don't do what they're supposed to.
[53:10.400 --> 53:14.400]  Then you go to the second person about the first person and they don't do anything.
[53:14.400 --> 53:20.400]  You go to the next person and now we're up to the chief justice of the Supreme and when
[53:20.400 --> 53:27.400]  he refuses to act, then we come back down and try to get the one down here that wouldn't
[53:27.400 --> 53:30.400]  arrest the chump JP on the bottom.
[53:30.400 --> 53:33.400]  Now we want him to arrest the chief justice of the Supreme.
[53:33.400 --> 53:36.400]  We start this all over again.
[53:36.400 --> 53:38.400]  Everything's political.
[53:38.400 --> 53:44.400]  Every step you take turns the screw a little tighter.
[53:44.400 --> 53:49.400]  It takes patience.
[53:49.400 --> 53:51.400]  Just be patient.
[53:51.400 --> 53:54.400]  You go in, you ask them to do something.
[53:54.400 --> 53:57.400]  They don't do what you ask them to do.
[53:57.400 --> 53:59.400]  You feel betrayed.
[53:59.400 --> 54:02.400]  You feel defeated, angry, frustrated.
[54:02.400 --> 54:04.400]  Call that out.
[54:04.400 --> 54:05.400]  No, no, no, no.
[54:05.400 --> 54:07.400]  That's not how we go in there.
[54:07.400 --> 54:10.400]  We go in there dangling this carrot in front of them.
[54:10.400 --> 54:16.400]  Actually, my favorite one is I go in there with this little tar baby.
[54:16.400 --> 54:19.400]  Here, Judge, I got this tar baby.
[54:19.400 --> 54:20.400]  That's what I did this morning.
[54:20.400 --> 54:22.400]  I got this tar baby here.
[54:22.400 --> 54:23.400]  You want to touch it?
[54:23.400 --> 54:24.400]  Here, go ahead.
[54:24.400 --> 54:25.400]  Touch it.
[54:25.400 --> 54:27.400]  And he touched it.
[54:27.400 --> 54:29.400]  Now he's stuck to it.
[54:29.400 --> 54:32.400]  He can't get loose from it.
[54:32.400 --> 54:34.400]  He denied my motion.
[54:34.400 --> 54:40.400]  The only thing I said to him when he denied my motion, oh, Judge, we were just about to get to the fun part.
[54:40.400 --> 54:43.400]  Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Mr. Kelton.
[54:43.400 --> 54:47.400]  Oh, you didn't disappoint me.
[54:47.400 --> 54:51.400]  So now I will file against him.
[54:51.400 --> 54:55.400]  He's stuck to this, and he never gets loose from it.
[54:55.400 --> 54:58.400]  I'll go to the district attorney and file with the district attorney.
[54:58.400 --> 55:02.400]  And the district attorney will give it to his public integrity unit.
[55:02.400 --> 55:07.400]  Then I'll file against the district attorney with the attorney general.
[55:07.400 --> 55:12.400]  And the attorney general refused to act on it, so he sticks to it.
[55:12.400 --> 55:17.400]  Then I'll go to the chief justice of the Supreme against the attorney general.
[55:17.400 --> 55:19.400]  And he refused to act on it.
[55:19.400 --> 55:22.400]  Now you got the guy at the top.
[55:22.400 --> 55:29.400]  Now you come back down to the bottom and start the rounds with criminal charges against the chief justice.
[55:29.400 --> 55:33.400]  This just keeps getting uglier.
[55:33.400 --> 55:39.400]  They will never be afraid of you.
[55:39.400 --> 55:46.400]  What they'll be afraid of is political cannon fodder.
[55:46.400 --> 55:52.400]  I got all the highest judges in Texas put in front of a grand jury about four years ago.
[55:52.400 --> 55:59.400]  We have two high courts in Texas, Supreme Court for Civil, Court of Criminal Appeals for Criminal.
[55:59.400 --> 56:02.400]  Fifteen judges on the Court of Criminal Appeals.
[56:02.400 --> 56:05.400]  I got them all put in front of a grand jury.
[56:05.400 --> 56:09.400]  How did you go about doing that?
[56:09.400 --> 56:11.400]  I got lucky.
[56:11.400 --> 56:18.400]  Ron Earl, district attorney, 25-year district attorney in Travis County.
[56:18.400 --> 56:21.400]  He's the guy that took out Tom DeLay.
[56:21.400 --> 56:24.400]  He's the second highest level political official in the country.
[56:24.400 --> 56:27.400]  And Ron Earl took him out illegally.
[56:27.400 --> 56:31.400]  Nobody ever accused Tom DeLay of a crime.
[56:31.400 --> 56:35.400]  So this is the scoundrel that took out Tom DeLay.
[56:35.400 --> 56:37.400]  I go to him with these complaints.
[56:37.400 --> 56:40.400]  His people refused to take them.
[56:40.400 --> 56:42.400]  I worked them over for about a year.
[56:42.400 --> 56:48.400]  I finally went in and bushwhacked the head criminal district judge for Travis County
[56:48.400 --> 56:53.400]  and dumped the complaints on him against the district attorney for not filing the complaints
[56:53.400 --> 56:56.400]  against the judges with the grand jury.
[56:56.400 --> 57:03.400]  And I think Bob Perkins called Ron Earl and said, what the heck is going on here?
[57:03.400 --> 57:08.400]  And Ron Earl finally looked at him and said, oh, look at this.
[57:08.400 --> 57:10.400]  Goodie, goodie.
[57:10.400 --> 57:12.400]  25-year district attorney.
[57:12.400 --> 57:14.400]  He's a Democrat.
[57:14.400 --> 57:18.400]  He's not running for office again, so he don't care.
[57:18.400 --> 57:22.400]  All 15 of these judges are Republicans.
[57:22.400 --> 57:29.400]  That scoundrel used my complaints to try to take out those judges with him.
[57:29.400 --> 57:33.400]  Everything is political.
[57:33.400 --> 57:36.400]  They're not going to be afraid of you.
[57:36.400 --> 57:40.400]  They're in a pool full of sharks.
[57:40.400 --> 57:48.400]  What they're afraid of is one of those sharks will take your cannon fodder and use it against them.
[57:48.400 --> 57:58.400]  So when you're doing this, always you're thinking about how do I create cannon fodder?
[57:58.400 --> 58:06.400]  How do I create ugly sounding stuff that this guy's political enemies can use against him?
[58:06.400 --> 58:10.400]  You will never get upset. You'll never get excited.
[58:10.400 --> 58:14.400]  And you'll probably find this to be way too much fun.
[58:14.400 --> 58:17.400]  Hang on. We're about to go to our top of the hour break.
[58:17.400 --> 58:21.400]  We will pick this up when we come back on the other side.
[58:21.400 --> 58:25.400]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Blah Blah Radio.
[58:25.400 --> 58:29.400]  Our call-in numbers, 512-646-1984.
[58:29.400 --> 58:34.400]  Bill, Terrence, Rich, Rob. Oh, we've got a bunch of them on there tonight.
[58:34.400 --> 58:38.400]  I see you there. We will pick you guys up on the other side.
[58:38.400 --> 58:44.400]  So hang on, and I hope Rob doesn't get too much diesel fumes,
[58:44.400 --> 58:47.400]  because he'll wind up dead hit if he does.
[58:47.400 --> 58:50.400]  Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:37.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Law Radio.
[01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:43.400]  And we're talking to Susan in Florida about grand juries.
[01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.400]  This takes a mindset.
[01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:49.400]  It's not like we think it is.
[01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:55.400]  We want to be able to go down to the court and get resolution.
[01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:04.400]  We want to go and invoke the law before our public officials and have our public officials do what the law requires them to do.
[01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:09.400]  It's not going to happen unless you just beat them up and make them.
[01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:19.400]  And over time in doing this, I found the best way to beat them up is not to confront them directly.
[01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:25.400]  Confronting them directly is something they are very good at.
[01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.400]  They do that all the time.
[01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:37.400]  The way to defeat them and the way to get them to do what they're supposed to is give them the impression
[01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:43.400]  that everything you do is a setup.
[01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:51.400]  You're just setting them up so you can hammer them. Everything you ask them to do, you're setting them up so you can hammer them.
[01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.400]  If we're going to fix the system, that's how we're going to fix it.
[01:04:55.400 --> 01:05:00.400]  If we're going to have influence on the system, that's how we're going to get influence.
[01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:16.400]  Whether you actually get someone indicted or not, I get a lot of blowback for saying it's never my intention to get someone indicted.
[01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:22.400]  Now, that doesn't mean that I don't want to get somebody indicted or I wouldn't like that.
[01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:28.400]  I might not like it. I would love it if some of these people got indicted.
[01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:37.400]  But that cannot be my purpose. My purpose is a lot bigger than that.
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:45.400]  My purpose is to put every judge in a position such that when he steps up behind the bench
[01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:50.400]  and looks out across the bar at the gallery, I want him wondering which one.
[01:05:50.400 --> 01:06:00.400]  Which one of those scoundrels sitting out there just waiting for an opportunity to run down to the grand jury and try to get me indicted.
[01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:14.400]  That's what will change their behavior. And frankly, it is the most powerful when it comes from left field when they don't see it coming.
[01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:27.400]  I really like bushwhack. And it's even more powerful when it comes over something incredibly minor.
[01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:39.400]  I got all the highest judges in Texas put before a grand jury because when I filed a writ of habeas corpus, they demanded that I file a motion for a leave to file.
[01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:48.400]  I said, say what? This is a writ. You don't have authority to grant or deny leave to heck with you.
[01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:54.400]  But they wouldn't take my filing. And since the kid was in jail, I'm trying to get him out.
[01:06:54.400 --> 01:07:04.400]  Then I filed the motion for leave and they denied leave to file, which they did to every pro se who came there.
[01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:15.400]  When they denied me leave to file, I call that official oppression. The judges exerted or purported to exert an authority they did not expressly have and filed with the grand jury.
[01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:24.400]  And that's all I filed. Not that they were mean, not that they were biased.
[01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:38.400]  But this specific act that they took was not specifically authorized by statute. Technical violation 39.03 penal code.
[01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:44.400]  And they said, what in the heck? We're all going to get indicted over something this minor.
[01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:59.400]  They're all judges. They knew that they did really horrible stuff. But when it comes up with something tiny out of left field, it makes the big stuff even more worrisome.
[01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:09.400]  So do your homework. Look at what the court or whatever official you're going to is required to do.
[01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:23.400]  One of the things I love to do on open records is I go in and try to figure out what are they not going to want to show me.
[01:08:23.400 --> 01:08:34.400]  And I ask for that. And I don't ask for one record, but a range of records because I want them wondering what I'm looking for.
[01:08:34.400 --> 01:08:45.400]  And what I'm really trying to do is get someone to say, well, Mr. Kelton, why do you want to see these records? Gotcha.
[01:08:45.400 --> 01:08:48.400]  Why is that? Why is that?
[01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:56.400]  There's two questions they can ask me. Who are you? What records do you seek?
[01:08:56.400 --> 01:09:05.400]  They are forbidden to ask me anything else. If they ask me something else, both, gotcha.
[01:09:05.400 --> 01:09:15.400]  Exerting importance, exerting authority, do not expressly have. Class A misdemeanor, official misconduct, criminal violation 39.03.
[01:09:15.400 --> 01:09:22.400]  And they're standing there scratching their head while I'm dialing 911 wondering what happened.
[01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:33.400]  I had a clerk who wouldn't show me some records because she didn't have the personnel, didn't have time, said I'd have to look at the computer 911.
[01:09:33.400 --> 01:09:43.400]  And they called the lieutenant and I got the sergeant, the sergeant called the lieutenant and the lieutenant refused to do anything.
[01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:51.400]  So I called 911 on the lieutenant. And while I'm waiting for the police to show up so I can file criminal charges against both of them,
[01:09:51.400 --> 01:09:56.400]  the clerk and the lieutenant came and the clerk got a whole handful of folders.
[01:09:56.400 --> 01:10:04.400]  And the lieutenant started to say something to me and I told him, stop, stop, I can't be talking to you.
[01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:11.400]  I have a policeman coming. I'll give him a full statement. But since I'm filing criminal charges against both of you, I can't talk to you.
[01:10:11.400 --> 01:10:16.400]  And the sergeant stepped over and said, well, she has the records you asked for.
[01:10:16.400 --> 01:10:23.400]  I said, sorry, Bubba, that bell's already been rung.
[01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:31.400]  And the look on the clerk's face was absolutely priceless.
[01:10:31.400 --> 01:10:44.400]  She could not believe over something so minor that the sky was falling in on her and she's taking this lieutenant with her.
[01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:48.400]  Yeah, I didn't want her indicted. And I didn't pursue it.
[01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:55.400]  But I guarantee you, if you go to Randall County now and ask for some records, you're not going to get any nonsense.
[01:10:55.400 --> 01:11:00.400]  They're going to bring you those records. This is how you do it.
[01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:12.400]  You sneak up on them. You bushwhack them. You ask them to do something that the law requires them to do and you hope they don't do it.
[01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:18.400]  Gotcha. You don't let them know that. You just go away and make your complaint to somebody else.
[01:11:18.400 --> 01:11:27.400]  And then they get a call from somebody else who says, I have this person down here trying to get me to arrest you.
[01:11:27.400 --> 01:11:34.400]  You want to tell me what's going on? That's how you get your attention.
[01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:39.400]  OK, that's my story. I'm sticking to it. Does that make sense?
[01:11:39.400 --> 01:11:45.400]  That's smart. It makes a lot of sense. And I have a question about this.
[01:11:45.400 --> 01:11:52.400]  Do you know how lawful is it? Because I've been trying to find this.
[01:11:52.400 --> 01:12:03.400]  How lawful is it for a process server to pull you over in your vehicle and serve process?
[01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:12.400]  Whoa. If they were not giving that information, like on the process service paper.
[01:12:12.400 --> 01:12:21.400]  Wait a minute. He's a process server. When he pulls you over, he's declaring an emergency.
[01:12:21.400 --> 01:12:27.400]  You say what? He's declaring an emergency. OK.
[01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:33.400]  I would call that official oppression. You're going to have that in Florida.
[01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:37.400]  It may be called official misconduct.
[01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:46.400]  I say official oppression in Texas because we have two statutes, official misconduct and official oppression.
[01:12:46.400 --> 01:12:50.400]  Most states, both of those are under official oppression.
[01:12:50.400 --> 01:13:00.400]  In Texas, official misconduct is where you misappropriate public funds or misuse government equipment,
[01:13:00.400 --> 01:13:06.400]  where you interfere with the rights of a citizen while acting under the color authority.
[01:13:06.400 --> 01:13:12.400]  That's official oppression. But in Florida, I think they're both under official misconduct.
[01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:21.400]  He impersonated a police officer. I'm sorry. He impersonated a peace officer.
[01:13:21.400 --> 01:13:27.400]  And he probably is a certified peace officer. OK.
[01:13:27.400 --> 01:13:36.400]  But at the time he pulled you over, he wasn't functioning in the capacity of a peace officer.
[01:13:36.400 --> 01:13:42.400]  He was functioning in the capacity of a process server.
[01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:47.400]  That should get a criminal complaint against him for official misconduct.
[01:13:47.400 --> 01:13:51.400]  OK. Now, I went to the...
[01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:57.400]  OK. I understand. This one is perfect. It is so perfect.
[01:13:57.400 --> 01:14:05.400]  The prosecutor is going to say, there's no way I'm going to prosecute this guy for pulling you over to serve process.
[01:14:05.400 --> 01:14:12.400]  Oh, wonderful. Now I get to file against you for abuse of discretion, official oppression.
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:18.400]  You file against him. So that is a perfect one. Go ahead. I interrupted you.
[01:14:18.400 --> 01:14:27.400]  Well, you know, I went to the DA, I went to the internal affairs and the FBI regarding...
[01:14:27.400 --> 01:14:29.400]  All worthless.
[01:14:29.400 --> 01:14:31.400]  OK.
[01:14:31.400 --> 01:14:36.400]  They're all cops. They all protect each other, especially the FBI.
[01:14:36.400 --> 01:14:37.400]  OK.
[01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:45.400]  The FBI is merely a political arm of the president, just like Hitler's brown shirts.
[01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:51.400]  Except I think our guys are much dirtier than the brown shirts were.
[01:14:51.400 --> 01:15:08.400]  Do not expect the FBI to do anything in your benefit. Do not expect them to enforce law unless it is politically expedient for their boss.
[01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:13.400]  And I don't mean to disparage FBI agents.
[01:15:13.400 --> 01:15:22.400]  This is not about FBI agents. This is about the political structure that the FBI agents are forced to function under.
[01:15:22.400 --> 01:15:29.400]  It's like the police that don't have abscrand with police. I know you see all these videos.
[01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:35.400]  You got several million police out here and you see a couple hundred videos.
[01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:43.400]  It is a very few bad police officers and they make it look bad for all of them.
[01:15:43.400 --> 01:15:52.400]  The police are stuck inside a system they didn't create. It wasn't what they thought they were getting into when they started.
[01:15:52.400 --> 01:15:58.400]  The same with lawyers. They're stuck in a screwed up system that they didn't create.
[01:15:58.400 --> 01:16:08.400]  If there's any FBI agents out there listening, I really don't mean to disparage the agents. They're just stuck in a system they didn't create.
[01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:12.400]  But all that's worthless.
[01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:22.400]  The one thing our founders did, the one true remedy is the grand jury.
[01:16:22.400 --> 01:16:28.400]  And in the end it doesn't always matter whether you get there or not.
[01:16:28.400 --> 01:16:33.400]  But the grand jury is the elephant in the corner.
[01:16:33.400 --> 01:16:37.400]  Just the threat of possibly getting there is generally enough.
[01:16:37.400 --> 01:16:41.400]  I really need to move along. I've got a bunch of callers.
[01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:43.400]  Can you call in tomorrow night?
[01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:45.400]  Yes, I'll call in tomorrow.
[01:16:45.400 --> 01:16:48.400]  This happens to be about my favorite subject.
[01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:54.400]  Okay, we're about to go to break. I will move on on the other side.
[01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:58.400]  I've got one, two, three, four, five, six callers, so I really have to move along.
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[01:19:25.400 --> 01:19:35.400]  Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:35.400 --> 01:19:40.400]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plans.
[01:19:40.400 --> 01:19:46.400]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hands.
[01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:55.400]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:55.400 --> 01:20:11.400]  Ain't gonna fool me.
[01:20:11.400 --> 01:20:16.400]  Ain't gonna drive me with that same old suck-up money.
[01:20:16.400 --> 01:20:22.400]  I get it now but then I must have it now.
[01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:24.400]  Okay, we are back.
[01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:27.400]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La Radio.
[01:20:27.400 --> 01:20:30.400]  And we're going to Bill in Texas.
[01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:31.400]  Hello.
[01:20:31.400 --> 01:20:33.400]  Hello, Bill.
[01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:40.400]  I'm going to come lately to your program and I am enjoying it very much.
[01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:43.400]  Okay, what do you have for us?
[01:20:43.400 --> 01:20:47.400]  Are you the one with the grandson with an issue?
[01:20:47.400 --> 01:20:49.400]  Yes.
[01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:50.400]  Okay.
[01:20:50.400 --> 01:21:00.400]  And what we were talking about and what reason I wanted Bill to call in was we were talking about timelines.
[01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:06.400]  I cannot overemphasize how important that is.
[01:21:06.400 --> 01:21:13.400]  You get into one of these situations and things happen.
[01:21:13.400 --> 01:21:17.400]  Things happen that you react strongly to.
[01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:22.400]  And one thing will happen and then another thing will happen and then another thing will happen.
[01:21:22.400 --> 01:21:24.400]  And you tend to talk about these.
[01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:29.400]  You talk about them with one another and you talk about it with other people.
[01:21:29.400 --> 01:21:42.400]  The problem with this is you talk about what happened and the context is not always as important or it doesn't appear important.
[01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:52.400]  And over time you begin to lose referential index to exactly how all of these things came together.
[01:21:52.400 --> 01:21:59.400]  And because what we do is we look at law.
[01:21:59.400 --> 01:22:07.400]  And when I look at one of these circumstances, I'm looking for points of due process.
[01:22:07.400 --> 01:22:14.400]  Well, you don't know they're important because you don't know what they are so you don't know what to look for.
[01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:24.400]  In order for me to find them, the first thing I need to know is what happened and when it happened.
[01:22:24.400 --> 01:22:27.400]  I need just a simple timeline.
[01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:39.400]  And if it's something, I have someone in a family court issue and she wrote me a timeline of things that stood out in her mind.
[01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:45.400]  And then she sent me a docket sheet that listed all of the things that were filed in court.
[01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:49.400]  The docket sheet was what I needed.
[01:22:49.400 --> 01:22:56.400]  So now I go back and have her take all of these things that happened and look at the docket sheet.
[01:22:56.400 --> 01:23:06.400]  Where along this list of things that were done in court did these other things over here occur and drop them in place?
[01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:16.400]  You will be surprised how much information will come out that you missed when you start putting all these things in order.
[01:23:16.400 --> 01:23:21.400]  I don't need argument. I don't need explanation.
[01:23:21.400 --> 01:23:30.400]  For this purpose, I only need on this day this thing happened and then this thing happened and this thing happened.
[01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:44.400]  That's all I need for this because what I'll do is show you how to construct a statement of facts that are artful.
[01:23:44.400 --> 01:23:52.400]  You see, I can tell you what you should think or believe or conclude. You may or may not believe me.
[01:23:52.400 --> 01:24:01.400]  But if I feed you facts in a way that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence would put these facts together
[01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:13.400]  and come to the conclusion that I want you to come to, then when I come back and I do my argument in support
[01:24:13.400 --> 01:24:20.400]  or my what I like to call a statement of factual accusation, I'll have a statement of facts.
[01:24:20.400 --> 01:24:24.400]  And then I'll follow that with a statement of factual accusation.
[01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:37.400]  When I start making accusations based on these facts, I will have already tried to get you to come to this conclusion before I tell you about it.
[01:24:37.400 --> 01:24:48.400]  Because if I can get you to do that and then I come to the same conclusion I got you to come to, you're going to think I'm really smart.
[01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:54.400]  Because I came to the same conclusion you did and that's called rapport.
[01:24:54.400 --> 01:25:04.400]  So first we need all of the facts and then we'll go through there and see what facts aren't relevant and we can set those aside.
[01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:14.400]  And then we go back through there and see which facts go directly to points of law and due process.
[01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:24.400]  And then sort the facts so that a person reading this would tend to come to the conclusion you wanted to.
[01:25:24.400 --> 01:25:27.400]  Bill, does that make sense?
[01:25:27.400 --> 01:25:35.400]  Yes, it does. What threw me on your email was the word calendar.
[01:25:35.400 --> 01:25:38.400]  I picture a calendar hanging on the wall.
[01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:42.400]  That's right. That's a perfect way to do it.
[01:25:42.400 --> 01:25:51.400]  But in making this thing to send to you, and by the way, do you want a hard copy or can we do it by email?
[01:25:51.400 --> 01:25:53.400]  I would much rather it by email.
[01:25:53.400 --> 01:25:58.400]  And I was going to say if you're having trouble with it, go find a 10-year-old.
[01:25:58.400 --> 01:26:02.400]  They'll explain it to you.
[01:26:02.400 --> 01:26:07.400]  Us old guys, we're used to hard paper and pencil.
[01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:13.400]  If you have a grandson, get the grandkids and show you how this stuff works.
[01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:27.400]  What I was wondering is on the timeline, if I could center the month and then do the things underneath that month or right below that, do another month.
[01:26:27.400 --> 01:26:42.400]  Well, they've got electronic calendars and you can just, you know, just on the day, a calendar is better because it gives you a little room to write in a little note on each of the days that something happened.
[01:26:42.400 --> 01:26:46.400]  And we're very accustomed to dealing with calendars.
[01:26:46.400 --> 01:27:01.400]  If you just line things up in chronological order, that's not quite as intuitive and it doesn't give me room to put the happenings that go in between.
[01:27:01.400 --> 01:27:05.400]  You're not going to have all the information yet.
[01:27:05.400 --> 01:27:11.400]  When you fill out this timeline, I'm going to look at it and I'm going to say, whoa, hold on here.
[01:27:11.400 --> 01:27:18.400]  This happened on this day and in two weeks later, this happened or had to be something in between.
[01:27:18.400 --> 01:27:25.400]  And I'll be able to determine that based on what the law says is supposed to be there.
[01:27:25.400 --> 01:27:35.400]  And a calendar, just doing it on a, you can get an electronic calendar and electronic pages and just stick it in where it occurred.
[01:27:35.400 --> 01:27:48.400]  Not only does it put it in a way that's intuitively understandable for me, but you will find it as a very effective mnemonic device.
[01:27:48.400 --> 01:27:53.400]  When you start doing this, you'll fill it out, go back and look at it.
[01:27:53.400 --> 01:28:01.400]  You'll find yourself sitting, hold on, wait a minute, that didn't occur here, that occurred over here.
[01:28:01.400 --> 01:28:10.400]  And there's this other thing that occurred here that I missed, you'll start filling in a lot of gaps that you lose when you tell these stories.
[01:28:10.400 --> 01:28:14.400]  If you rethink these stories, it don't make all the internal connections.
[01:28:14.400 --> 01:28:32.400]  Go ahead.
[01:28:32.400 --> 01:28:35.400]  That's why the first thing I need is a timeline.
[01:28:35.400 --> 01:28:42.400]  It's strung over this time and you're living inside it.
[01:28:42.400 --> 01:28:47.400]  You'll tend to get the happenings out of place.
[01:28:47.400 --> 01:28:52.400]  I need to make sure everything is in the right place at the right time.
[01:28:52.400 --> 01:28:56.400]  And I understand this is very difficult.
[01:28:56.400 --> 01:29:05.400]  Because in order to do this, you have to go back and re-experience all the bad feelings you had when all of these things happened.
[01:29:05.400 --> 01:29:09.400]  So I understand that it's very difficult.
[01:29:09.400 --> 01:29:17.400]  I'm reliving them every day in this federal lawsuit, which brings up a quick question later on.
[01:29:17.400 --> 01:29:26.400]  But on these electronic calendars, on the day that this happened, can you expand that day to type in?
[01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:28.400]  Is that what you're talking about?
[01:29:28.400 --> 01:29:30.400]  Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
[01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:33.400]  It doesn't matter.
[01:29:33.400 --> 01:29:38.400]  We can make notes that refer to the dates.
[01:29:38.400 --> 01:29:43.400]  I just need something so I can look at it and see what happened on each day.
[01:29:43.400 --> 01:29:47.400]  Oh, okay.
[01:29:47.400 --> 01:29:48.400]  Okay, okay.
[01:29:48.400 --> 01:29:49.400]  Hang on.
[01:29:49.400 --> 01:29:50.400]  I'm about to go to break.
[01:29:50.400 --> 01:29:52.400]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue of Law Radio.
[01:29:52.400 --> 01:30:03.400]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984, and we'll be right back.
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[01:30:46.400 --> 01:30:52.400]  Last year, 1,800 Americans living overseas renounced their citizenship, a record number.
[01:30:52.400 --> 01:30:54.400]  Do these folks just hate our country?
[01:30:54.400 --> 01:30:58.400]  No, but they're fed up with burdensome tax laws.
[01:30:58.400 --> 01:31:03.400]  Most countries don't force citizens living abroad to pay federal taxes, but the U.S. does.
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[01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:21.400]  It's high time the U.S. got off the backs of Americans living overseas, and come to think of it, the rest of ours too.
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[01:33:33.400 --> 01:33:38.400]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rural Law Radio, and we're talking to Bill in Texas.
[01:33:38.400 --> 01:33:41.400]  Okay, Bill, does that kind of make sense to what I'm looking for?
[01:33:41.400 --> 01:33:52.400]  Yes. I'm not a computer guru, but I did a search and found a calendar where you click on a date,
[01:33:52.400 --> 01:33:55.400]  and it expanded out where you can type in there.
[01:33:55.400 --> 01:34:04.400]  When you get that, will something show up on that date where you can click and expand it and read it?
[01:34:04.400 --> 01:34:06.400]  Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
[01:34:06.400 --> 01:34:09.400]  Okay. Okay. I got that straight now.
[01:34:09.400 --> 01:34:15.400]  Good. Just let me know what the software is, and I'll download the software.
[01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:28.400]  Okay. The other quick question is, in a federal civil rights lawsuit where you got the three or four statutes that has been violated,
[01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:42.400]  am I doing the right thing by including a private entity who is acting in concert with a county?
[01:34:42.400 --> 01:34:48.400]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:34:48.400 --> 01:34:55.400]  Okay. That's not enough for me to tell anything, but generally, if a private entity is acting in concert,
[01:34:55.400 --> 01:35:01.400]  any two entities who are acting in concert inclusion with one another can be sued together.
[01:35:01.400 --> 01:35:09.400]  Okay. Okay. I was wondering about that. I haven't included it.
[01:35:09.400 --> 01:35:12.400]  Have you filed a federal lawsuit?
[01:35:12.400 --> 01:35:14.400]  I'm sorry?
[01:35:14.400 --> 01:35:16.400]  Have you filed a federal lawsuit?
[01:35:16.400 --> 01:35:20.400]  No. No. I'm just in the process of making it now.
[01:35:20.400 --> 01:35:25.400]  Okay. Good. Then get this first, and we have all the facts in order.
[01:35:25.400 --> 01:35:26.400]  Okay.
[01:35:26.400 --> 01:35:32.400]  The last thing you want to do is get a fact out of place, because the other side will figure that out
[01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:36.400]  and come back and use it to discredit everything you're doing.
[01:35:36.400 --> 01:35:40.400]  This is the most important thing you can do is get a good timeline down.
[01:35:40.400 --> 01:35:45.400]  Okay. Okay. I think you've answered my questions.
[01:35:45.400 --> 01:35:51.400]  Okay. Thank you very much, Bill. Now we're going to go to Terrence in Tennessee.
[01:35:51.400 --> 01:35:55.400]  Hello, Terrence. What do you have for us tonight?
[01:35:55.400 --> 01:35:57.400]  Well, good evening, and thank you.
[01:35:57.400 --> 01:36:02.400]  And the answer to part of my questions is make out a timeline.
[01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:08.400]  The initial question would be the landlord has a vehicle towed,
[01:36:08.400 --> 01:36:13.400]  and they're allowed to if they do the proper notice, which they manufactured notice.
[01:36:13.400 --> 01:36:19.400]  But before they tow it, they cut a lock, empty all the contents out.
[01:36:19.400 --> 01:36:29.400]  It's a cargo trailer. They empty all the contents out, re-lock the trailer, and then have it towed.
[01:36:29.400 --> 01:36:35.400]  Where are the contents, and who did they have an inventory of the contents?
[01:36:35.400 --> 01:36:39.400]  I understand you had 1,000 ounces of silver in there?
[01:36:39.400 --> 01:36:44.400]  250.
[01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:47.400]  That's all you could find. Where's the rest of it?
[01:36:47.400 --> 01:36:49.400]  That's what I can prove.
[01:36:49.400 --> 01:36:52.400]  Okay. Here's the point I'm making.
[01:36:52.400 --> 01:37:00.400]  Who is crazy enough to open that locker, to open that trailer?
[01:37:00.400 --> 01:37:04.400]  You could claim anything was in there.
[01:37:04.400 --> 01:37:06.400]  Correct.
[01:37:06.400 --> 01:37:12.400]  That's a real serious problem for them to do something stupid like that.
[01:37:12.400 --> 01:37:17.400]  Have they returned the property that was in the trailer to you?
[01:37:17.400 --> 01:37:22.400]  No. What the landlord's claiming is that the trailer was abandoned,
[01:37:22.400 --> 01:37:27.400]  and therefore anything in it belongs to the landlord.
[01:37:27.400 --> 01:37:32.400]  Did he have knowledge that it belonged to you?
[01:37:32.400 --> 01:37:35.400]  Oh, yes.
[01:37:35.400 --> 01:37:39.400]  You need to go file criminal theft charges.
[01:37:39.400 --> 01:37:40.400]  I did now.
[01:37:40.400 --> 01:37:44.400]  Hold on. Did he allow you to put that trailer on the property?
[01:37:44.400 --> 01:37:48.400]  Oh, yes. It has been there for over six months in the same spot.
[01:37:48.400 --> 01:37:51.400]  Go file criminal theft against him.
[01:37:51.400 --> 01:37:56.400]  Well, all the police would let me do so far is make out a stolen property list.
[01:37:56.400 --> 01:37:58.400]  You don't care what the police say.
[01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:02.400]  You make up a criminal charge to take it to the justice of the peace.
[01:38:02.400 --> 01:38:05.400]  Okay.
[01:38:05.400 --> 01:38:08.400]  The police, they don't want to do their job.
[01:38:08.400 --> 01:38:13.400]  They want to smooth everything over, and they don't care if you got screwed around.
[01:38:13.400 --> 01:38:17.400]  So make up criminal charges and file them against them with the JP.
[01:38:17.400 --> 01:38:21.400]  If the JP don't take them, you're in Tennessee.
[01:38:21.400 --> 01:38:24.400]  You've got justice as a peace in Tennessee.
[01:38:24.400 --> 01:38:29.400]  If the JP don't take it, then you file criminal charges against the JP
[01:38:29.400 --> 01:38:31.400]  and take it to the next step.
[01:38:31.400 --> 01:38:35.400]  Just start the routine on them.
[01:38:35.400 --> 01:38:38.400]  Are you in East Tennessee, West Tennessee?
[01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:44.400]  Chattanooga.
[01:38:44.400 --> 01:38:45.400]  Oh, East Tennessee.
[01:38:45.400 --> 01:38:48.400]  Okay, I've got someone I'll get you in contact with.
[01:38:48.400 --> 01:38:51.400]  Send me an email.
[01:38:51.400 --> 01:38:59.400]  I've got some contacts in East Tennessee.
[01:38:59.400 --> 01:39:05.400]  She's absolutely berserk, but she'll show you how to kick their behinds.
[01:39:05.400 --> 01:39:10.400]  That's okay. I sent you one, and I thought, Randy, I need your help.
[01:39:10.400 --> 01:39:12.400]  Okay, I remember seeing that.
[01:39:12.400 --> 01:39:16.400]  I'll get it to her, and I'll get her in contact with you.
[01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:18.400]  Thank you so much.
[01:39:18.400 --> 01:39:20.400]  You are most welcome, and I do need to move along.
[01:39:20.400 --> 01:39:21.400]  We're running out of time.
[01:39:21.400 --> 01:39:22.400]  Okay.
[01:39:22.400 --> 01:39:23.400]  We'll make out of time.
[01:39:23.400 --> 01:39:25.400]  Thank you.
[01:39:25.400 --> 01:39:27.400]  Okay.
[01:39:27.400 --> 01:39:31.400]  Thank you, and we're going to go to Rick in North Carolina.
[01:39:31.400 --> 01:39:33.400]  Hello, Rick.
[01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:35.400]  Hey, Randy, how you doing?
[01:39:35.400 --> 01:39:36.400]  Doing good.
[01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:38.400]  What do you have for us tonight?
[01:39:38.400 --> 01:39:39.400]  Okay.
[01:39:39.400 --> 01:39:43.400]  Last time we spoke a couple weeks ago, you asked me to send you some documents
[01:39:43.400 --> 01:39:48.400]  relating to my buddy's property, and I sent them to you,
[01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:50.400]  and I was wondering if you could see them and look at them.
[01:39:50.400 --> 01:39:52.400]  What was his name?
[01:39:52.400 --> 01:39:56.400]  Mike.
[01:39:56.400 --> 01:40:00.400]  Don't remember Mike.
[01:40:00.400 --> 01:40:08.400]  Send me an email tomorrow, and I will check, but I don't remember a Mike.
[01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:16.400]  I have a woman in North Carolina that has a mortgage issue, but I will check.
[01:40:16.400 --> 01:40:21.400]  The title of the email said something about North Carolina hillbilly,
[01:40:21.400 --> 01:40:25.400]  and then I put a man with a gun.
[01:40:25.400 --> 01:40:28.400]  I don't remember seeing that email.
[01:40:28.400 --> 01:40:29.400]  Maybe you didn't.
[01:40:29.400 --> 01:40:34.400]  Do you send it to Randy at Louisville Radio or women's and real estate?
[01:40:34.400 --> 01:40:37.400]  I sent it to the person who said.
[01:40:37.400 --> 01:40:38.400]  Okay.
[01:40:38.400 --> 01:40:43.400]  Well, try it again in case you got a typo in there.
[01:40:43.400 --> 01:40:44.400]  Okay.
[01:40:44.400 --> 01:40:46.400]  I'll do that.
[01:40:46.400 --> 01:40:47.400]  Okay.
[01:40:47.400 --> 01:40:48.400]  Good.
[01:40:48.400 --> 01:40:49.400]  Good.
[01:40:49.400 --> 01:40:51.400]  And I'll get ahold of you tomorrow.
[01:40:51.400 --> 01:40:52.400]  Okay.
[01:40:52.400 --> 01:40:57.400]  Just real fast, we've been juggling a quiet title, a bankruptcy,
[01:40:57.400 --> 01:40:59.400]  and we appealed the foreclosure case.
[01:40:59.400 --> 01:41:01.400]  Everything's coming to a head now.
[01:41:01.400 --> 01:41:05.400]  We've got the quiet title coming up on Monday.
[01:41:05.400 --> 01:41:06.400]  We're not prepared for it.
[01:41:06.400 --> 01:41:10.400]  We're considering dropping it because we haven't done a clarification.
[01:41:10.400 --> 01:41:11.400]  Okay.
[01:41:11.400 --> 01:41:12.400]  That I remember.
[01:41:12.400 --> 01:41:13.400]  It's coming up Monday.
[01:41:13.400 --> 01:41:14.400]  Okay.
[01:41:14.400 --> 01:41:15.400]  Get ahold of me tomorrow.
[01:41:15.400 --> 01:41:16.400]  Okay.
[01:41:16.400 --> 01:41:17.400]  I'll have a quick look at it.
[01:41:17.400 --> 01:41:19.400]  I might be able to get you something by Monday.
[01:41:19.400 --> 01:41:20.400]  Okay.
[01:41:20.400 --> 01:41:21.400]  Okay.
[01:41:21.400 --> 01:41:22.400]  Hold it.
[01:41:22.400 --> 01:41:23.400]  It's coming up.
[01:41:23.400 --> 01:41:25.400]  You had already had to have a document in there.
[01:41:25.400 --> 01:41:27.400]  I didn't get a challenge.
[01:41:27.400 --> 01:41:29.400]  Did you file the quiet title?
[01:41:29.400 --> 01:41:30.400]  Yes.
[01:41:30.400 --> 01:41:31.400]  Okay.
[01:41:31.400 --> 01:41:32.400]  Okay.
[01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:33.400]  Okay.
[01:41:33.400 --> 01:41:34.400]  Good.
[01:41:34.400 --> 01:41:36.400]  Then I can probably find you some arguments in support.
[01:41:36.400 --> 01:41:38.400]  What did you file the quiet title on?
[01:41:38.400 --> 01:41:40.400]  Which document?
[01:41:40.400 --> 01:41:46.400]  The last thing that we received at the time, which was a notice of foreclosure sale.
[01:41:46.400 --> 01:41:47.400]  Okay.
[01:41:47.400 --> 01:41:55.400]  Was the trustee – okay, now this is – you're in a judicial state.
[01:41:55.400 --> 01:41:56.400]  Okay.
[01:41:56.400 --> 01:41:58.400]  I'll have to look at chain of title.
[01:41:58.400 --> 01:41:59.400]  Okay.
[01:41:59.400 --> 01:42:00.400]  Get ahold of me tomorrow.
[01:42:00.400 --> 01:42:03.400]  I'll get on it quickly.
[01:42:03.400 --> 01:42:04.400]  Okay.
[01:42:04.400 --> 01:42:09.400]  And what we need to do is find an interruption in the chain of title.
[01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:15.400]  And did they file a response to your quiet title?
[01:42:15.400 --> 01:42:17.400]  Yes, they did.
[01:42:17.400 --> 01:42:18.400]  All three parties did.
[01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:19.400]  Okay.
[01:42:19.400 --> 01:42:20.400]  Okay.
[01:42:20.400 --> 01:42:21.400]  I'll need that for sure.
[01:42:21.400 --> 01:42:22.400]  Okay.
[01:42:22.400 --> 01:42:23.400]  Okay.
[01:42:23.400 --> 01:42:25.400]  So give me an email.
[01:42:25.400 --> 01:42:27.400]  I'll get on that tomorrow.
[01:42:27.400 --> 01:42:28.400]  Will do.
[01:42:28.400 --> 01:42:29.400]  Okay.
[01:42:29.400 --> 01:42:30.400]  Thank you.
[01:42:30.400 --> 01:42:32.400]  Now we're going to go to Rob in New Mexico.
[01:42:32.400 --> 01:42:36.400]  Rob, you've been sitting there with that diesel idling.
[01:42:36.400 --> 01:42:39.400]  No, I got shut off.
[01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:42.400]  You're not dead-hitting today.
[01:42:42.400 --> 01:42:45.400]  I've lost too many brain cells listening to you, Randy.
[01:42:45.400 --> 01:42:48.400]  I can't afford to lose anymore.
[01:42:48.400 --> 01:42:49.400]  Okay.
[01:42:49.400 --> 01:42:50.400]  What is up?
[01:42:50.400 --> 01:42:53.400]  Well, I want to give you a little bit of background.
[01:42:53.400 --> 01:42:55.400]  I've been real busy the last couple of months.
[01:42:55.400 --> 01:42:59.400]  I've got three TAR babies going in three districts in New Mexico.
[01:42:59.400 --> 01:43:01.400]  I'm having a lot of fun.
[01:43:01.400 --> 01:43:09.400]  The one in Albuquerque, I sent criminal complaints to the DA with a little letter asking the
[01:43:09.400 --> 01:43:14.400]  DA to notify me of when she intended to present it to the grand jury so I could make myself
[01:43:14.400 --> 01:43:17.400]  available as a witness.
[01:43:17.400 --> 01:43:23.400]  The DA opened the letter, called me, said, I can't find a case that these complaints
[01:43:23.400 --> 01:43:24.400]  relate to.
[01:43:24.400 --> 01:43:26.400]  And I said, no, there is no case yet.
[01:43:26.400 --> 01:43:33.400]  I'm initiating these complaints against these lawyers for burglary.
[01:43:33.400 --> 01:43:36.400]  And I hear the music.
[01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:39.400]  Oh, that's just a decent fuse.
[01:43:39.400 --> 01:43:41.400]  Okay.
[01:43:41.400 --> 01:43:43.400]  Hang on.
[01:43:43.400 --> 01:43:45.400]  I'll quit picking on you because you're a truck driver.
[01:43:45.400 --> 01:43:49.400]  This is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:49.400 --> 01:43:53.400]  I call it number 512-646-1984.
[01:43:53.400 --> 01:43:54.400]  We'll be right back.
[01:43:54.400 --> 01:43:56.400]  And Robin, I see you there.
[01:43:56.400 --> 01:44:00.400]  We'll try to get you before we run out of time.
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[01:46:19.400 --> 01:46:23.400]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:46:23.400 --> 01:46:26.400]  and we're talking to Rob in New Mexico.
[01:46:26.400 --> 01:46:32.400]  Yeah, so rather than sending my letter back in the self-addressed envelope that I gave the DA,
[01:46:32.400 --> 01:46:38.400]  self-addressed envelope, the DA put everything back in the original envelope,
[01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:42.400]  taped it shut, and returned the sender on it.
[01:46:42.400 --> 01:46:51.400]  Then file a complaint against the DA and send it to the Foreman of the Grand Jury,
[01:46:51.400 --> 01:46:57.400]  registered restricted at the DA's address.
[01:46:57.400 --> 01:46:59.400]  Excellent.
[01:46:59.400 --> 01:47:05.400]  And when the idiot DA opens it, it'll be a complaint against him for misfeasance in office.
[01:47:05.400 --> 01:47:11.400]  Right. Now, I've got a question. Did you get anything from the Valencia County,
[01:47:11.400 --> 01:47:13.400]  New Mexico County clerk?
[01:47:13.400 --> 01:47:17.400]  Yes, I did, and I was wondering where that came from.
[01:47:17.400 --> 01:47:22.400]  Okay, because I haven't heard anything back from them. They haven't filed the documents.
[01:47:22.400 --> 01:47:25.400]  Why did they send it to me?
[01:47:25.400 --> 01:47:32.400]  Because I put R. Kelton ESQ on the return address on the original envelope.
[01:47:32.400 --> 01:47:39.400]  Ooh, you're trying to get me arrested. I'm not an Esquire.
[01:47:39.400 --> 01:47:44.400]  I didn't put your name anywhere inside.
[01:47:44.400 --> 01:47:48.400]  Okay, that's why. I just picked it up for yesterday, as a matter of fact.
[01:47:48.400 --> 01:47:53.400]  Okay, that's weird, because they got it like a month ago.
[01:47:53.400 --> 01:47:58.400]  Yeah, as a matter of fact, I have it right here. But, okay, that was, I looked it over,
[01:47:58.400 --> 01:48:02.400]  and I don't remember what it was. I had a whole bunch of mail.
[01:48:02.400 --> 01:48:03.400]  Okay.
[01:48:03.400 --> 01:48:16.400]  It says, Peggy, Carabaja, Valencia. Yes, I have it right here.
[01:48:16.400 --> 01:48:24.400]  Recording requested a notice of lender's default. They didn't file it. They returned it.
[01:48:24.400 --> 01:48:26.400]  Yeah.
[01:48:26.400 --> 01:48:30.400]  The document requested sent to our office to be returned to you for the following reasons.
[01:48:30.400 --> 01:48:33.400]  You didn't pay a 25-buck filing fee.
[01:48:33.400 --> 01:48:35.400]  Oh, okay.
[01:48:35.400 --> 01:48:43.400]  That's okay. You can redo it with the filing fee. You should be good.
[01:48:43.400 --> 01:48:47.400]  I remember looking at it and seeing what it was, and that's why I went ahead to see why they returned it.
[01:48:47.400 --> 01:48:51.400]  So that's good. They didn't return it because it wasn't in proper form,
[01:48:51.400 --> 01:48:54.400]  or we don't file these kind of documents.
[01:48:54.400 --> 01:48:57.400]  Okay, she did her job right for once.
[01:48:57.400 --> 01:48:59.400]  Yeah, that's good. That's good.
[01:48:59.400 --> 01:49:04.400]  Now, I can't find shielding from prosecution or abuse of discretion in New Mexico.
[01:49:04.400 --> 01:49:07.400]  What else can I look under?
[01:49:07.400 --> 01:49:10.400]  Official misconduct.
[01:49:10.400 --> 01:49:12.400]  Okay, that'll work.
[01:49:12.400 --> 01:49:15.400]  Fails to perform a duty they're required to perform.
[01:49:15.400 --> 01:49:19.400]  Okay, and then I got a de novo review question.
[01:49:19.400 --> 01:49:21.400]  Okay.
[01:49:21.400 --> 01:49:26.400]  If I object to a magistrate's ruling and the judge conducts a de novo review,
[01:49:26.400 --> 01:49:30.400]  is it sufficient for him to say I have conducted a de novo review
[01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:35.400]  and find the objections lack merit, and that's it?
[01:49:35.400 --> 01:49:43.400]  Well, he can do that, but you need to file a motion for findings of fact and conclusions at law.
[01:49:43.400 --> 01:49:45.400]  Okay. All right, I'm done.
[01:49:45.400 --> 01:49:46.400]  Yes.
[01:49:46.400 --> 01:49:48.400]  Go on to the next guy. Thank you very much.
[01:49:48.400 --> 01:49:50.400]  Okay, thank you.
[01:49:50.400 --> 01:49:54.400]  Okay, now we're going to Robin in Florida.
[01:49:54.400 --> 01:49:57.400]  Hello, Robin. What do you have for us today?
[01:49:57.400 --> 01:50:00.400]  Hello, Randy. Good evening. You can hear me okay?
[01:50:00.400 --> 01:50:02.400]  I can hear you.
[01:50:02.400 --> 01:50:06.400]  Okay, good. This is a question about sort of an employment issue I have.
[01:50:06.400 --> 01:50:10.400]  Actually, it's for my wife.
[01:50:10.400 --> 01:50:14.400]  She works in a – and it has some legal ramifications here.
[01:50:14.400 --> 01:50:19.400]  She works in a boutique in a mall. She's like a sales associate.
[01:50:19.400 --> 01:50:23.400]  And, you know, she's been there for three months.
[01:50:23.400 --> 01:50:27.400]  She's had many run-ins with the management because the management has sales goals.
[01:50:27.400 --> 01:50:29.400]  They have sales goals.
[01:50:29.400 --> 01:50:35.400]  You know, she's complaining to me about this because they're not letting her sell and all this kind of stuff.
[01:50:35.400 --> 01:50:37.400]  So I said, well, there's nothing really we can do.
[01:50:37.400 --> 01:50:44.400]  It's just sort of, you know, fighting within the company that you can't do anything about.
[01:50:44.400 --> 01:50:51.400]  But what has happened is that they had an audit within the company,
[01:50:51.400 --> 01:51:01.400]  and her managers haven't heard falsified training documents that she did training and stuff like this.
[01:51:01.400 --> 01:51:04.400]  And this training was supposed to be done three months ago when she originally started,
[01:51:04.400 --> 01:51:06.400]  but they did it just three weeks ago.
[01:51:06.400 --> 01:51:13.400]  They changed previous employees' documents to put her name on it and things of that nature.
[01:51:13.400 --> 01:51:17.400]  So basically, they're falsifying documents.
[01:51:17.400 --> 01:51:23.400]  You know, this is, okay, when you say they're falsifying documents,
[01:51:23.400 --> 01:51:31.400]  but this so far, unless this is training that's required by some governmental agency,
[01:51:31.400 --> 01:51:35.400]  is that the case or is this internal training?
[01:51:35.400 --> 01:51:36.400]  It's within the company.
[01:51:36.400 --> 01:51:41.400]  My goal is here to, she can't get anywhere.
[01:51:41.400 --> 01:51:44.400]  They're reducing her hours and such and such.
[01:51:44.400 --> 01:51:46.400]  But it's just within the company.
[01:51:46.400 --> 01:51:47.400]  That's the problem.
[01:51:47.400 --> 01:51:54.400]  I don't know any options, but they're also starting to take away actual pay that she worked.
[01:51:54.400 --> 01:51:55.400]  Now, that's different.
[01:51:55.400 --> 01:51:59.400]  Is Florida a right-to-work state?
[01:51:59.400 --> 01:52:01.400]  I believe so, yes.
[01:52:01.400 --> 01:52:10.400]  Then she can bring an issue because the courts will say that you have an investment in your job,
[01:52:10.400 --> 01:52:19.400]  you have a property right in the job that you do because you invest a lot of your time into the job
[01:52:19.400 --> 01:52:22.400]  and you do extra learning the job and such.
[01:52:22.400 --> 01:52:32.400]  So if they terminate you or do something to cause you to make less money that's unfair,
[01:52:32.400 --> 01:52:36.400]  then you will generally have a claim against them.
[01:52:36.400 --> 01:52:44.400]  However, this is really specific to local law.
[01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:54.400]  But if she can establish that she earned money that they didn't pay her, that's a whole other animal.
[01:52:54.400 --> 01:52:56.400]  There you could file a civil action.
[01:52:56.400 --> 01:53:00.400]  Then once the managers went in and took away the extra hour that she worked,
[01:53:00.400 --> 01:53:03.400]  that she got permission to work without telling them,
[01:53:03.400 --> 01:53:08.400]  and somehow one of the other managers found out because they're having all these infighting issues,
[01:53:08.400 --> 01:53:12.400]  and she would have never known that they took that actually as a half hour away.
[01:53:12.400 --> 01:53:16.400]  She doesn't keep track of all of it, and they found out and the other managers,
[01:53:16.400 --> 01:53:20.400]  so hey, what are you doing taking away her pay like that and all that kind of stuff?
[01:53:20.400 --> 01:53:29.400]  So my end goal is I want her to be able to put some pressure on the company to get rid of these people
[01:53:29.400 --> 01:53:33.400]  because they're doing all kinds, this is just the tip of the iceberg
[01:53:33.400 --> 01:53:35.400]  what I've given you here on the radio.
[01:53:35.400 --> 01:53:39.400]  Okay, this goes more to politics.
[01:53:39.400 --> 01:53:41.400]  That's what I meant.
[01:53:41.400 --> 01:53:46.400]  And to Ken's first rule, everything is political.
[01:53:46.400 --> 01:53:56.400]  If your wife raises too much of an issue, her managers will probably fire her,
[01:53:56.400 --> 01:53:58.400]  and they'll come up with a reason.
[01:53:58.400 --> 01:54:07.400]  But if her irate husband goes and he's just a bull in a china shop,
[01:54:07.400 --> 01:54:12.400]  and he goes to her boss's boss's boss's boss and chews him out
[01:54:12.400 --> 01:54:18.400]  because these guys are screwing her around, you see, in these major companies.
[01:54:18.400 --> 01:54:21.400]  You know, I ran my own company for a long time.
[01:54:21.400 --> 01:54:26.400]  And I'm the guy that had the money invested in the company.
[01:54:26.400 --> 01:54:29.400]  And the people I had working for me on the bottom,
[01:54:29.400 --> 01:54:34.400]  if they go out there and they really screw something up,
[01:54:34.400 --> 01:54:39.400]  they're going to come to me and say, hey, you know, I really screwed something up,
[01:54:39.400 --> 01:54:41.400]  not in this lifetime.
[01:54:41.400 --> 01:54:47.400]  The hardest thing for upper management to find out is what's going on below them
[01:54:47.400 --> 01:54:51.400]  because nobody wants to bring anything bad up.
[01:54:51.400 --> 01:54:53.400]  And that's exactly where I'm going with this.
[01:54:53.400 --> 01:54:55.400]  How should I handle it?
[01:54:55.400 --> 01:54:57.400]  Do we want to go to the country?
[01:54:57.400 --> 01:55:01.400]  Well, you could make some inquiries, just innocent inquiries.
[01:55:01.400 --> 01:55:06.400]  I'll give you an idea of what we did once.
[01:55:06.400 --> 01:55:09.400]  We put in a phone, a friend of mine moved down from Colorado
[01:55:09.400 --> 01:55:11.400]  and he wanted to put in a phone system.
[01:55:11.400 --> 01:55:15.400]  And we were out in the country and he needed a private line.
[01:55:15.400 --> 01:55:17.400]  At the time they had a lot of party lines.
[01:55:17.400 --> 01:55:20.400]  They said they had to put in 200 feet underground cable.
[01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:21.400]  We did that.
[01:55:21.400 --> 01:55:25.400]  They came out, hooked him up, put him on a six-party line.
[01:55:25.400 --> 01:55:29.400]  So he called the local office and they were not helpful.
[01:55:29.400 --> 01:55:35.400]  So I happened to know that the headquarters of the company wasn't in Colleen,
[01:55:35.400 --> 01:55:37.400]  like they said, but it was actually in Chicago.
[01:55:37.400 --> 01:55:40.400]  So I called Chicago and asked for the president of the company.
[01:55:40.400 --> 01:55:44.400]  First I called and asked the secretary who the president was.
[01:55:44.400 --> 01:55:46.400]  And they said, is there a problem?
[01:55:46.400 --> 01:55:48.400]  I said, yeah, I don't know who the president is.
[01:55:48.400 --> 01:55:50.400]  Well, is there something I can help you with?
[01:55:50.400 --> 01:55:52.400]  You can tell me who the president is.
[01:55:52.400 --> 01:55:53.400]  And finally they did.
[01:55:53.400 --> 01:55:58.400]  I called back, hung up, called back and asked for the president by name.
[01:55:58.400 --> 01:56:00.400]  I get his secretary.
[01:56:00.400 --> 01:56:02.400]  And I asked for him.
[01:56:02.400 --> 01:56:03.400]  Well, he's not here.
[01:56:03.400 --> 01:56:04.400]  Well, who is here?
[01:56:04.400 --> 01:56:05.400]  Well, Mr. Rice is here.
[01:56:05.400 --> 01:56:06.400]  Well, who is he?
[01:56:06.400 --> 01:56:09.400]  Well, he's the chairman of the board.
[01:56:09.400 --> 01:56:11.400]  Oh, that'll do.
[01:56:11.400 --> 01:56:14.400]  And I said, hey, Mark, this guy's name is Rice.
[01:56:14.400 --> 01:56:15.400]  He's in Chicago.
[01:56:15.400 --> 01:56:16.400]  He can help you.
[01:56:16.400 --> 01:56:18.400]  And Mark is PO'd.
[01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:20.400]  I grabbed the phone out of my hand.
[01:56:20.400 --> 01:56:23.400]  Look, you SOB.
[01:56:23.400 --> 01:56:25.400]  I paid you people for a private line.
[01:56:25.400 --> 01:56:28.400]  You put me on a six-party line.
[01:56:28.400 --> 01:56:30.400]  I'm going to have my private line if I have to come up to Chicago
[01:56:30.400 --> 01:56:32.400]  and kick your behind again.
[01:56:32.400 --> 01:56:33.400]  Bam.
[01:56:33.400 --> 01:56:35.400]  It hangs up.
[01:56:35.400 --> 01:56:39.400]  I said, Mark, you know who that was?
[01:56:39.400 --> 01:56:40.400]  Some Rice guy.
[01:56:40.400 --> 01:56:41.400]  I don't know.
[01:56:41.400 --> 01:56:43.400]  It was the chairman of the board.
[01:56:43.400 --> 01:56:47.400]  The next day, I bet they had 200 guys out there.
[01:56:47.400 --> 01:56:52.400]  Up telephone poles, back holes everywhere.
[01:56:52.400 --> 01:56:53.400]  It works.
[01:56:53.400 --> 01:56:57.400]  So is that something that you think I should do or my wife should do?
[01:56:57.400 --> 01:56:58.400]  Well, no.
[01:56:58.400 --> 01:57:01.400]  You might call down there and make inquiries.
[01:57:01.400 --> 01:57:04.400]  Call the president and make inquiries.
[01:57:04.400 --> 01:57:07.400]  You know, your wife's having difficulty, these people at the bottom,
[01:57:07.400 --> 01:57:13.400]  and explain what's happening and say, where would I go to get this resolved?
[01:57:13.400 --> 01:57:16.400]  And it will start down from the top.
[01:57:16.400 --> 01:57:19.400]  And because it comes from the top, it's most likely to protect your wife,
[01:57:19.400 --> 01:57:25.400]  but always when you do something like that, it's dangerous.
[01:57:25.400 --> 01:57:29.400]  But she'll have plausible deniability because her chump husband
[01:57:29.400 --> 01:57:32.400]  didn't know better than to call the president of the company
[01:57:32.400 --> 01:57:36.400]  and tell them how bad these guys are screwing up at the bottom.
[01:57:36.400 --> 01:57:41.400]  Generally, the guys at the top want good information.
[01:57:41.400 --> 01:57:44.400]  Yeah, that's exactly where I was going with this whole process.
[01:57:44.400 --> 01:57:48.400]  Yeah, just be polite, be inquisitive.
[01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:51.400]  You know, she's having these problems but can't get them fixed.
[01:57:51.400 --> 01:57:52.400]  Who would I talk to?
[01:57:52.400 --> 01:57:57.400]  I mean, she's afraid to say anything, and they're screwing her around down there,
[01:57:57.400 --> 01:58:00.400]  so how would I go about fixing this?
[01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:05.400]  And that'll start the phones ringing and it's likely to get real hot down there.
[01:58:05.400 --> 01:58:08.400]  Okay, I really appreciate it.
[01:58:08.400 --> 01:58:09.400]  Okay.
[01:58:09.400 --> 01:58:10.400]  Thank you for listening.
[01:58:10.400 --> 01:58:12.400]  Thank you for calling.
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