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[03:58.880 --> 04:14.440]  Randy Kelton here with Steve Skidmore, Blue of Law Radio, this Friday, January 10th, 2014.
[04:14.440 --> 04:22.480]  And tonight I want to start out by continuing something that I was talking about last night,
[04:22.480 --> 04:32.480]  what he's trying to talk about last night in doing what I'm doing.
[04:32.480 --> 04:40.640]  After having gone after these guys for quite a long time, I have...
[04:40.640 --> 04:43.640]  The banks, you mean?
[04:43.640 --> 04:45.260]  Missed that.
[04:45.260 --> 04:48.640]  The banks, you mean, banks, judges, lawyers?
[04:48.640 --> 04:49.640]  Public officials in general.
[04:49.640 --> 04:53.400]  This just goes more to public officials this time than banks.
[04:53.400 --> 04:54.400]  Okay.
[04:54.400 --> 04:59.960]  And going after these public officials, I can tell you a lot of things not to do.
[04:59.960 --> 05:08.360]  Three dislocated ribs, two broken collarbones, chipped elbow and a tooth knocked out.
[05:08.360 --> 05:09.360]  And ruined a good suit.
[05:09.360 --> 05:10.360]  And ruined a good suit.
[05:10.360 --> 05:13.360]  Ruined a couple good suits, actually.
[05:13.360 --> 05:18.240]  Ruined my favorite suit when he knocked my tooth out.
[05:18.240 --> 05:21.600]  I cared more about the suit than the tooth.
[05:21.600 --> 05:27.200]  Anyway, I know a lot of things not to do, but that's not terribly helpful, knowing what
[05:27.200 --> 05:28.280]  not to do.
[05:28.280 --> 05:32.080]  What's helpful is knowing what to do.
[05:32.080 --> 05:44.480]  And over time, I have found myself having better results in dealing with these guys.
[05:44.480 --> 05:49.960]  And in looking back, trying to figure out what it is I'm doing different, because most
[05:49.960 --> 05:59.040]  of the time when we work out how to do things different, we generally work it out in practice.
[05:59.040 --> 06:05.560]  And then we have to back up and look at it and try to determine what is it about what
[06:05.560 --> 06:11.600]  I was doing that made a difference.
[06:11.600 --> 06:16.280]  And that's often pretty hard to determine.
[06:16.280 --> 06:21.680]  Now there are a number of tools that I use that are effective, and I know that they have
[06:21.680 --> 06:24.040]  their effect.
[06:24.040 --> 06:28.200]  The primary tool is pattern interruption.
[06:28.200 --> 06:38.040]  But beyond pattern interruption, beyond paying attention to what you feel like doing and
[06:38.040 --> 06:42.440]  doing something different.
[06:42.440 --> 06:48.800]  This is a really little step beyond that, because it's becoming clear if we're going
[06:48.800 --> 06:59.640]  to have an effect on a group of people who consider themselves to be above the laws that
[06:59.640 --> 07:06.280]  we're trying to enact and engage.
[07:06.280 --> 07:10.560]  We have to find some different tools.
[07:10.560 --> 07:17.960]  And what I'm beginning to find that if we're going to have an effect with these people,
[07:17.960 --> 07:22.520]  we're going to have to be a step or two ahead of them.
[07:22.520 --> 07:28.480]  And that's easy enough to say, but how do we wind up getting a step or two ahead of
[07:28.480 --> 07:29.480]  them?
[07:29.480 --> 07:36.360]  I mean, it's not like we can learn all of the things all of these people are going to
[07:36.360 --> 07:44.080]  do and figure out what we're going to do when they do these things so that we're ready
[07:44.080 --> 07:46.120]  for them.
[07:46.120 --> 07:48.160]  That is way too difficult.
[07:48.160 --> 07:54.520]  I tried for a long time to work that part out, and it wasn't effective.
[07:54.520 --> 07:57.080]  People are so different, so varied.
[07:57.080 --> 08:06.320]  So how do we establish a set of rules or a set of practices that will be generally effective?
[08:06.320 --> 08:15.280]  And I believe I'm beginning to come to an understanding of what a, at least a portion
[08:15.280 --> 08:17.280]  of those rules are.
[08:17.280 --> 08:21.480]  On the radio, we've talked about everything being political.
[08:21.480 --> 08:24.200]  Now, this comes from Ken's four rules.
[08:24.200 --> 08:32.080]  He's got four rules, but the one that really stands out is everything is political.
[08:32.080 --> 08:41.000]  We start out thinking that things are the way we were taught in high school.
[08:41.000 --> 08:49.400]  We're taught that this is a land of law and justice, and we have very well-designed fair
[08:49.400 --> 08:56.920]  and honest courts where you can go to find remedy and just adjudication.
[08:56.920 --> 09:04.880]  We get it out here in the real world, and most of us find out that's not true.
[09:04.880 --> 09:11.280]  There is a large number of people who trust in the system, and for the most part, they
[09:11.280 --> 09:17.160]  trust in the system because they have an investment in the system.
[09:17.160 --> 09:23.520]  If I go to someone who has trusted the system all his life, he's an old guy like me, who
[09:23.520 --> 09:28.160]  has a lot of history trusting the system, but not much history dealing with it.
[09:28.160 --> 09:36.280]  Mostly, we go to work, we do our job, we deal with our boss, he can be a pain in the neck,
[09:36.280 --> 09:41.600]  and he can be difficult, he can be unjust and unfair, but he is not the system.
[09:41.600 --> 09:49.800]  We come home, we watch TV, we play with the kids, we get up tomorrow and go back to work,
[09:49.800 --> 09:53.720]  and we have little or no dealings with the system.
[09:53.720 --> 09:59.600]  Most people, when they get a traffic citation, they just pay it because they keep the traffic
[09:59.600 --> 10:08.880]  citation at an amount that it's more economical to pay the ticket than to take the time and
[10:08.880 --> 10:14.360]  focus that would be required to fight for justice, and it's easy enough to say it's
[10:14.360 --> 10:19.440]  only a traffic ticket, it's not that important, so for the most part, we don't have any interaction
[10:19.440 --> 10:29.360]  with the system, and then we come across these guys that have had horrible interactions with
[10:29.360 --> 10:30.360]  the system.
[10:30.360 --> 10:41.960]  I was just talking to someone yesterday, actually Robert Fox, about a guy named Timothy Cole.
[10:41.960 --> 10:53.840]  Timothy Cole was arrested, accused of rape, convicted and imprisoned, and he had an asthmatic
[10:53.840 --> 11:02.360]  condition, and they did not provide his medication to him appropriately in prison, and he died
[11:02.360 --> 11:06.800]  of that asthmatic condition in prison.
[11:06.800 --> 11:17.080]  After he died, DNA ruled him out as the rapist, and he had maintained his innocence until
[11:17.080 --> 11:18.080]  he died.
[11:18.080 --> 11:26.760]  Now we hear those stories, but to us, they are distant and remote, and we think that
[11:26.760 --> 11:30.200]  kind of thing can never happen to us.
[11:30.200 --> 11:42.640]  So there are a few of us who are put in a position where life seems to kick this soap
[11:42.640 --> 11:52.120]  box up under our feet, and I talked to this after the show with someone last night about
[11:52.120 --> 11:59.000]  how he was very frustrated that most people just don't get it, and we used to hear a lot
[11:59.000 --> 12:07.160]  of stuff about sheeple, and I tried to explain to him that it's not always that way, that
[12:07.160 --> 12:16.080]  we're all busy, we all have a life to lead, life puts different challenges in front of
[12:16.080 --> 12:23.480]  different people, and some of us were lucky enough to have a challenge put in front of
[12:23.480 --> 12:35.040]  us that is worthy, and to a large degree exciting and interesting.
[12:35.040 --> 12:45.120]  I consider what I'm doing a gift, you know, the American Indians talked about.
[12:45.120 --> 12:50.460]  Their only purpose was to grow in the spirit, they felt that everything that existed was
[12:50.460 --> 12:54.600]  expressed into existence by higher spiritual will.
[12:54.600 --> 13:01.200]  The rocks, the trees, the animals, the plants, everything, including them, they were no better
[13:01.200 --> 13:05.080]  or no worse than any of the others, they were just a part of everything that existed, and
[13:05.080 --> 13:09.760]  they were here for the purpose of growing in the spirit, and the only way they could
[13:09.760 --> 13:15.580]  grow in the spirit was by making spiritually powerful decisions, and the only decisions
[13:15.580 --> 13:21.600]  that had power in them were the difficult decisions.
[13:21.600 --> 13:29.400]  So when life put difficulty before them, instead of treating the difficulty as if it were a
[13:29.400 --> 13:39.040]  burden, a punishment, they treated it as if it were a great opportunity.
[13:39.040 --> 13:44.920]  So in that regard, I consider this an opportunity, yes, it's difficult, yeah, I've been banged
[13:44.920 --> 13:49.960]  up a couple of times, thrown in jail a few times, but in the overall scheme of things,
[13:49.960 --> 14:00.960]  it's minor, for me to expect everyone else to pick its mantle up just because I did is
[14:00.960 --> 14:04.680]  pretty arrogant indeed.
[14:04.680 --> 14:12.160]  On this show, we meet people all the time who have issues that aren't in line with the
[14:12.160 --> 14:18.160]  one that we're pursuing, but they're just as viable.
[14:18.160 --> 14:26.920]  The poison you're putting in the water, the GMO modified plants, there's a lot of different
[14:26.920 --> 14:30.880]  issues, nobody can fight them all, we all pick our own.
[14:30.880 --> 14:39.040]  Everybody has their own path to follow, so ours, a few of us, is a path toward effecting
[14:39.040 --> 14:41.040]  change in the system.
[14:41.040 --> 14:50.440]  Okay, I have to accept that maybe one percent, if I'm lucky, half a percent of the people
[14:50.440 --> 14:55.440]  who listen to this show, we could get half of the percent of the people who listen to
[14:55.440 --> 15:02.040]  the show to actually do what I'm doing or what we're suggesting people do.
[15:02.040 --> 15:05.040]  We could dramatically change everything.
[15:05.040 --> 15:09.680]  Okay, that's some nice high-minded rhetoric.
[15:09.680 --> 15:14.400]  Okay, now, what do we do to dramatically change everything?
[15:14.400 --> 15:21.960]  I've been a long time going in and thumping around these public officials, and we've been
[15:21.960 --> 15:30.280]  a long time doing this show, but we haven't dramatically changed everything yet, and it
[15:30.280 --> 15:41.560]  is our job and our opportunity to sort out from the plethora of possibilities those aspects
[15:41.560 --> 15:49.320]  of what we do and what we can do that will tend to have the most pervasive and far-reaching
[15:49.320 --> 15:54.600]  changes, and I have some tools for doing that.
[15:54.600 --> 16:00.760]  I'm about to go to break here in a minute, I will get into the main subject I wanted
[16:00.760 --> 16:06.800]  to go to, and all of this rhetoric I've been spewing here in this first segment is really
[16:06.800 --> 16:10.280]  a setup for where I'm going to.
[16:10.280 --> 16:16.160]  There are a set of specific things we can do, ways to hold our mind, and procedures
[16:16.160 --> 16:25.120]  we can take that will have dramatic effects on the officials that we're dealing with,
[16:25.120 --> 16:31.680]  but what I'm suggesting does not go directly to the content of what we're doing.
[16:31.680 --> 16:37.480]  It doesn't go to the specifics, but goes to the structure, and when we come back, we'll
[16:37.480 --> 16:44.880]  talk about the meta-content of how to go after these public officials and bring them to task.
[16:44.880 --> 16:54.400]  This is Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Root of Love Radio, our call-in number is 512-646-1984,
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[19:30.080 --> 19:51.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, and that rascal Steve is going to run and
[19:51.000 --> 19:57.280]  tell Deborah that I fell off the cliff on the outro on the first segment, so I'm not starting
[19:57.280 --> 19:59.280]  out the show too great.
[19:59.280 --> 20:08.920]  The problem I'm having is I'm trying to talk and think at the same time, and that can be
[20:08.920 --> 20:09.920]  difficult.
[20:09.920 --> 20:12.920]  Let's have no more of that.
[20:12.920 --> 20:23.480]  Okay, with that first segment lead in, I am developing some tools and understandings.
[20:23.480 --> 20:33.320]  I know more about what to do than I'm able to do, and what I'm finding is the most difficult
[20:33.320 --> 20:44.320]  part of developing a strategy is the implementation of the strategy.
[20:44.320 --> 20:50.960]  The thing that we need to change the most is the hardest, and what it is we need to
[20:50.960 --> 21:03.560]  change is the way that we act and react on a essentially internal or automatic level.
[21:03.560 --> 21:12.960]  If someone comes along and you're sitting minding your own business, and whoever it
[21:12.960 --> 21:16.320]  is is talking and joking and laughing, not paying attention where they're going, they
[21:16.320 --> 21:20.920]  bump into your table and dump your coffee in your lap.
[21:20.920 --> 21:29.960]  You have learned methods of how to deal with these kinds of situations.
[21:29.960 --> 21:43.840]  If you perceive that the person was careless and inconsiderate and injured you either intentionally,
[21:43.840 --> 21:51.160]  which would, if you perceive he injured you intentionally, it would trigger one set of
[21:51.160 --> 21:52.480]  responses.
[21:52.480 --> 21:59.440]  If you perceive that he injured you just from carelessness, it would generate a different
[21:59.440 --> 22:01.440]  set of responses.
[22:01.440 --> 22:04.380]  Anger, indignation.
[22:04.380 --> 22:11.640]  We have these internal response sets that we have learned.
[22:11.640 --> 22:19.360]  All through our lives we've learned how to act and react to certain kinds of situations.
[22:19.360 --> 22:24.400]  Once we learn how to deal with a situation we tend to put that learning away.
[22:24.400 --> 22:33.640]  We give it to an internal part of the mind that, for want of a better term I call it
[22:33.640 --> 22:40.100]  an internal library, it kind of holds all these things we've learned how to do.
[22:40.100 --> 22:47.840]  Sometimes we learn some things and generalize what we've learned from a simple circumstance
[22:47.840 --> 22:51.520]  to the more complex.
[22:51.520 --> 22:56.920]  Sometimes that generalization is appropriate, sometimes it's not.
[22:56.920 --> 23:05.840]  Sometimes we learn some things that are appropriate when we learn them and then times change and
[23:05.840 --> 23:13.520]  circumstance change and the response set that we have learned is no longer appropriate.
[23:13.520 --> 23:22.200]  How many times have you seen someone react or respond in a way that was wholly inappropriate?
[23:22.200 --> 23:32.180]  His reaction or response leads to bad outcomes, but then he does the same thing again.
[23:32.180 --> 23:37.600]  You come home from work, you're tired, you're miserable, boss's been on your case, you walk
[23:37.600 --> 23:42.560]  in the door, mama's in a good mood, she's had a great day, she gives you a big hug,
[23:42.560 --> 23:50.720]  you go drop down at the table, plop some potatoes on your plate and say pasta damn gravy.
[23:50.720 --> 23:55.760]  Well duh, I mean how many times you've got to get a gravy boat bounced off your head
[23:55.760 --> 24:00.960]  to figure out that is a bad strategy?
[24:00.960 --> 24:08.360]  We have these ways of responding that lead to bad outcomes.
[24:08.360 --> 24:14.720]  If we step back from them and look on those methods of reacting and responding, we can
[24:14.720 --> 24:20.320]  pretty well choreograph exactly what everybody's going to say and how this thing's going to
[24:20.320 --> 24:23.320]  end up.
[24:23.320 --> 24:27.400]  Kind of like the guy that said I broke my arm in three places and the doctor says well
[24:27.400 --> 24:32.120]  it seems like you'd stay out of those places.
[24:32.120 --> 24:37.680]  You do the same things, they lead to the same bad outcomes and we keep doing them.
[24:37.680 --> 24:40.480]  Well you know it's easy to criticize that, but how do you fix it?
[24:40.480 --> 24:45.640]  Okay, I do have a tool for fixing it and I'm just going to go into this briefly because
[24:45.640 --> 24:51.640]  this leads to something a little more sophisticated.
[24:51.640 --> 25:01.560]  The way we fix these responses that we have is we start paying attention to the difference
[25:01.560 --> 25:07.160]  between a response that is pause and reflect.
[25:07.160 --> 25:13.480]  This response where something happens and you stop objectively analyze, decide on a
[25:13.480 --> 25:16.760]  course of action and initiate.
[25:16.760 --> 25:19.800]  Human beings can do that.
[25:19.800 --> 25:25.880]  As far as I know human beings are the only ones with the capacity to do that, but for
[25:25.880 --> 25:27.200]  the most part we don't.
[25:27.200 --> 25:31.080]  For the most part we just do whatever we feel like doing.
[25:31.080 --> 25:35.680]  So the first thing we need to start paying attention to is what we feel.
[25:35.680 --> 25:46.080]  If somebody says something or does something and your response is not well that's interesting,
[25:46.080 --> 25:51.920]  wonder why he did that, let's see what would be my most appropriate response.
[25:51.920 --> 25:53.960]  Determine a response and then act.
[25:53.960 --> 26:04.800]  If that's not what it is, but if the response just comes out from where in India they would
[26:04.800 --> 26:14.400]  call your center chakra, your solar plexus just squeezes and it just jumps right out.
[26:14.400 --> 26:19.680]  Well, you have to understand that's not yours, that's theirs.
[26:19.680 --> 26:28.360]  When you were five years old, you knew how to make someone smile, frown, happy, sad.
[26:28.360 --> 26:33.560]  You pretty well knew the full range of human response within your native culture to think
[26:33.560 --> 26:39.260]  somebody could say something or do something and trigger an internal response from you
[26:39.260 --> 26:44.320]  and not know, give me a break.
[26:44.320 --> 26:46.880]  Of course they know.
[26:46.880 --> 26:54.880]  Okay, maybe they don't know on a directly conscious volitional level, but at some level
[26:54.880 --> 27:02.520]  they know exactly what they're doing and generally if they're triggering or eliciting negative
[27:02.520 --> 27:10.560]  responses, they're probably acting and reacting from an old buried internal set of automatic
[27:10.560 --> 27:17.760]  responses that are clearly not drawn from conscious awareness.
[27:17.760 --> 27:28.920]  Their instigations, their actions are not the product of pause and reflect, but they're
[27:28.920 --> 27:32.600]  the product of internal reactions that may or may not be conscious.
[27:32.600 --> 27:37.560]  So for the most part, when we're bumping around all during the day banging into each other
[27:37.560 --> 27:43.800]  and having reactions and interactions, for the most part we don't have a clue.
[27:43.800 --> 27:47.760]  We think we know what we're doing, we think we're in conscious control of our behavior,
[27:47.760 --> 27:56.560]  but for the most part, our behavior is controlled by an aspect that's out of awareness.
[27:56.560 --> 28:01.280]  We don't pay attention to it and the reason we don't pay attention to it is because we
[28:01.280 --> 28:06.960]  think that emotions are nouns.
[28:06.960 --> 28:09.760]  Emotions are not nouns.
[28:09.760 --> 28:14.520]  Emotions are not things that happen to you.
[28:14.520 --> 28:17.520]  They are communications.
[28:17.520 --> 28:22.040]  It's that inner mind saying, well, somebody just triggered this response set over here
[28:22.040 --> 28:28.040]  and it gives you a little nudge and says, is this the right one?
[28:28.040 --> 28:33.080]  So when you feel the emotion, it gives your conscious awareness a little nudge and says,
[28:33.080 --> 28:38.280]  well, we just changed our contextual stance here.
[28:38.280 --> 28:39.280]  Have a look at it.
[28:39.280 --> 28:43.280]  Is this the correct one or should I use a different one?
[28:43.280 --> 28:47.080]  But in our culture, we're taught to think that that emotion is just something that happens
[28:47.080 --> 28:51.840]  to us so we don't recognize that we have control over it.
[28:51.840 --> 28:55.800]  And when we come back on the other side, I'm going to talk a little bit about how to gain
[28:55.800 --> 29:05.440]  control over that and then we'll talk about how to go in the door and set things up so
[29:05.440 --> 29:14.200]  that you trigger the kinds of responses in the guy on the other side that he absolutely
[29:14.200 --> 29:19.000]  does not anticipate.
[29:19.000 --> 29:25.720]  And in all of human interaction, the single most powerful thing you can do to someone
[29:25.720 --> 29:31.280]  else is to generate a pattern interruption.
[29:31.280 --> 29:38.200]  Joke the struts out from under them, leave them no clue as to how they should respond.
[29:38.200 --> 29:43.800]  This is where we'll get control, but it takes a mental discipline to learn it.
[29:43.800 --> 29:47.120]  And I'll talk a little bit about that when I come back on the other side.
[29:47.120 --> 29:54.600]  This is Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we have our radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[29:54.600 --> 30:05.080]  We'll be right back.
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[33:33.840 --> 33:52.360]  Okay, we are back, Eddie Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Rule of Law Radio.
[33:52.360 --> 34:00.840]  And I really am going somewhere with all of this in dealing with public officials.
[34:00.840 --> 34:09.440]  One of the things that we need to understand is that the courts and the bailiffs and police
[34:09.440 --> 34:16.440]  officers, they are very good at confrontation.
[34:16.440 --> 34:21.920]  They deal with confrontation all day, every day.
[34:21.920 --> 34:30.880]  So for us to attempt to affect change, we have to understand that we're not going to do it
[34:30.880 --> 34:31.880]  through confrontation.
[34:31.880 --> 34:38.560]  We're going to have to find another strategy.
[34:38.560 --> 34:50.520]  And in thinking about how these officials act and react, how they trigger internal responses
[34:50.520 --> 34:56.880]  from people, they know that when someone comes into the court and presents what they believe
[34:56.880 --> 35:03.400]  to be a proper and valid and just argument, and the court rules against them, they will
[35:03.400 --> 35:07.280]  feel betrayed.
[35:07.280 --> 35:11.960]  They will feel essentially devastated.
[35:11.960 --> 35:22.240]  It triggers strong reactions in people, and people tend to lean back on old response patterns,
[35:22.240 --> 35:28.720]  which for the most part, they may work well on the street corner, but they don't work
[35:28.720 --> 35:33.760]  well when you're dealing with police officers or public officials.
[35:33.760 --> 35:45.480]  And one indication of that is the first thing that comes out of an officer's mouth is that
[35:45.480 --> 35:55.240]  you are agitated, that it seems as though that is exactly the condition they try to
[35:55.240 --> 35:56.240]  create.
[35:56.240 --> 36:04.520]  If you try to express your rights, if you try to take a public official to task, they're
[36:04.520 --> 36:14.160]  going to try to get you to react and respond to them in a way they can label as agitated.
[36:14.160 --> 36:18.400]  And it's hard not to get agitated.
[36:18.400 --> 36:23.680]  When you go in, you got a dog in the hunt, and these guys are screwing you around.
[36:23.680 --> 36:26.600]  So how do you deal with that?
[36:26.600 --> 36:28.760]  How do you keep from getting agitated?
[36:28.760 --> 36:38.840]  Well, I've kind of worked out a strategy, and it's called the Bushwhack method.
[36:38.840 --> 36:50.080]  When you go into the court, never ask a public official to do anything you actually want
[36:50.080 --> 36:54.440]  him to do.
[36:54.440 --> 37:02.080]  That's because you never ask a public official to do anything that they are not specifically
[37:02.080 --> 37:05.880]  required to do by law.
[37:05.880 --> 37:12.800]  Now I know that sounds like a contradiction, but if we are to affect positive change in
[37:12.800 --> 37:17.600]  our public officials, this is how we're going to do it.
[37:17.600 --> 37:21.480]  In order to do this, we have to do our homework first.
[37:21.480 --> 37:28.640]  First, we have to look at the law, look at the facts, and determine what the courts are
[37:28.640 --> 37:29.640]  required to do.
[37:29.640 --> 37:36.880]  I went into court today, and the very first thing is I filed a challenge to subject matter
[37:36.880 --> 37:39.960]  jurisdiction.
[37:39.960 --> 37:46.920]  But I really didn't want the judge to grant the challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[37:46.920 --> 37:52.600]  The reason I didn't want him to grant the challenge to subject matter jurisdiction is
[37:52.600 --> 38:02.800]  I was holding this huge legal hammer in one hand, and handing the challenge to subject
[38:02.800 --> 38:06.040]  matter jurisdiction to him with the other.
[38:06.040 --> 38:12.200]  And I'm thinking, go ahead, Bubba, take debate.
[38:12.200 --> 38:14.800]  And he took debate.
[38:14.800 --> 38:23.240]  When the hearing was over, I looked at the judge and said, did you really deny that motion
[38:23.240 --> 38:25.680]  without reading it?
[38:25.680 --> 38:28.960]  Yes, I did.
[38:28.960 --> 38:34.960]  I turned from him and pointed at the bailiff, Mr. Bailiff, I need you outside, and turned
[38:34.960 --> 38:37.160]  and walked out of the room.
[38:37.160 --> 38:45.160]  And now the judge is standing there thinking, what the heck just happened?
[38:45.160 --> 38:55.920]  Now the judge fully expected me to light into him with a dissertation on my rights as a
[38:55.920 --> 38:56.920]  citizen.
[38:56.920 --> 39:03.320]  And I'm a sovereign, and you're a servant, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
[39:03.320 --> 39:07.040]  And then he could find me in contempt, have his bailiff throw me out and do all those
[39:07.040 --> 39:12.120]  things they are so good at doing.
[39:12.120 --> 39:14.560]  But that wasn't what happened.
[39:14.560 --> 39:17.760]  He didn't call for the bailiff, I did.
[39:17.760 --> 39:21.920]  And I turned my back on him and walked out of his courtroom.
[39:21.920 --> 39:27.280]  Well, I got to the door and the bailiffs were going up to the court, and I turned around
[39:27.280 --> 39:32.680]  and pointed back at this one bailiff, you, are you coming out here or not?
[39:32.680 --> 39:35.000]  Well, I have to check with the judge first.
[39:35.000 --> 39:36.000]  No, you don't.
[39:36.000 --> 39:39.000]  You need to come outside.
[39:39.000 --> 39:43.240]  And so just a minute, just a minute, and then I went out, and then he came out.
[39:43.240 --> 39:45.120]  And I told him, he said, what can I do for you?
[39:45.120 --> 39:46.600]  I want you to arrest the judge.
[39:46.600 --> 39:49.360]  Well, why would I arrest the judge?
[39:49.360 --> 39:54.120]  Class A misdemeanor, official misconduct, criminal violations, 39.03 Penal Code, in
[39:54.120 --> 39:56.960]  that he failed to perform a duty he was required to perform.
[39:56.960 --> 40:00.880]  Well, I don't know if I'm going to arrest him.
[40:00.880 --> 40:01.880]  He said, I'm not going to arrest the judge.
[40:01.880 --> 40:02.880]  I said, well, that's okay.
[40:02.880 --> 40:06.960]  Then I want you to take a voluntary statement and take my complaint against the judge.
[40:06.960 --> 40:10.440]  Well, I don't know if I'm going to take a complaint or not.
[40:10.440 --> 40:11.800]  Well, why don't you know?
[40:11.800 --> 40:13.680]  Well, I haven't decided yet.
[40:13.680 --> 40:15.720]  Well, how about you make a decision?
[40:15.720 --> 40:17.720]  He said, I'm thinking about it.
[40:17.720 --> 40:20.080]  I waited a few seconds.
[40:20.080 --> 40:21.080]  You done thinking?
[40:21.080 --> 40:23.280]  No, I haven't decided yet.
[40:23.280 --> 40:25.080]  Well, let me help you decide.
[40:25.080 --> 40:29.880]  I took out my cell phone dial 911.
[40:29.880 --> 40:35.840]  You didn't expect that either, but you see, I already had planned what I was going to
[40:35.840 --> 40:36.840]  do.
[40:36.840 --> 40:45.040]  If the judge granted my challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, I win.
[40:45.040 --> 40:52.240]  If the judge denies my challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, I win.
[40:52.240 --> 41:03.280]  So the best way to get there is make most everything you do a setup.
[41:03.280 --> 41:08.320]  They will very quickly figure out that's what you're doing.
[41:08.320 --> 41:15.920]  If we could get 1% of the people that went before these judges to be people that were
[41:15.920 --> 41:21.720]  in there for the purpose of setting the judge up.
[41:21.720 --> 41:27.880]  Now in this case, I will be filing criminal charges against the judge with grand jury.
[41:27.880 --> 41:34.840]  I'll file a tort letter with the county commissioner's court against the judge, accusing the judge
[41:34.840 --> 41:40.600]  of official oppression and of harming me by the loss of this property.
[41:40.600 --> 41:45.880]  And I'll sue for three times the value of the property for misfeasance in office.
[41:45.880 --> 41:52.120]  And then while I was waiting for the police to come, I wasn't sure if the court was still
[41:52.120 --> 41:53.120]  on.
[41:53.120 --> 41:56.400]  So I walked in front of the door and I was about six feet from the door and looked in.
[41:56.400 --> 42:00.760]  They had a really skinny little window and looked in there and saw the judge was still
[42:00.760 --> 42:01.760]  on the bench.
[42:01.760 --> 42:05.400]  And I went, came back over and went out to my car to get some documents.
[42:05.400 --> 42:08.560]  And when I come back in, the bailiff stopped me.
[42:08.560 --> 42:18.640]  And he said, if I looked into the courtroom aggressively again, I would be held in contempt.
[42:18.640 --> 42:23.840]  How do you look aggressively?
[42:23.840 --> 42:26.760]  That was the thing I did not do.
[42:26.760 --> 42:27.760]  Aggressively?
[42:27.760 --> 42:28.760]  Yeah.
[42:28.760 --> 42:35.000]  That's what I, no, no, ask him that question.
[42:35.000 --> 42:39.480]  That's the thing I'm trying to get in myself.
[42:39.480 --> 42:40.920]  I'm trying to get over.
[42:40.920 --> 42:50.000]  He deliberately tried to get me to get into a confrontation with him so that he could
[42:50.000 --> 42:55.640]  accuse me of being agitated.
[42:55.640 --> 42:58.440]  So what do you do?
[42:58.440 --> 43:04.800]  You know, I felt like launching into a tirade and letting him know how the cow ate the cabbage.
[43:04.800 --> 43:09.480]  But when I felt that, I pretty well got that part trained.
[43:09.480 --> 43:14.360]  There's just some portions of it that I still react to before I think.
[43:14.360 --> 43:20.140]  But in this case, I've done that dance enough that I caught him.
[43:20.140 --> 43:26.000]  I caught him trying to trigger an internal response in me.
[43:26.000 --> 43:31.920]  And instead of launching into some kind of argument, I said, Bubba, you stepped across
[43:31.920 --> 43:38.920]  a really big line in that time, pulled out my cell phone dialed 911 again, and he hit
[43:38.920 --> 43:39.920]  the road.
[43:39.920 --> 43:46.320]  And I tell him, stop, wait, I got somebody to go to want to talk to you, and he disappeared.
[43:46.320 --> 43:52.760]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we'll use our radio, I'll call you number 512-646-1984.
[43:52.760 --> 43:54.920]  I'll finish this up on the other side.
[43:54.920 --> 43:55.920]  We'll start taking calls.
[43:55.920 --> 44:02.920]  We'll be right back.
[44:25.920 --> 44:48.880]  Thank you.
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[46:24.760 --> 46:53.520]  Okay, we are back.
[46:53.520 --> 47:01.640]  Brandi Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Rule Law Radio, and we're talking about action and reaction.
[47:01.640 --> 47:10.800]  When you go into that courtroom, the judge, the lawyer on the other side, be he a plaintiff
[47:10.800 --> 47:18.320]  or a defendant's lawyer or a prosecutor, are all trying to get you to react and respond
[47:18.320 --> 47:22.680]  to them the way they want you to.
[47:22.680 --> 47:28.400]  React and respond to them in ways that suit their intended outcomes.
[47:28.400 --> 47:36.960]  Well, if we are to take control of the environment, we need to seek our own outcomes and not worry
[47:36.960 --> 47:39.080]  about their outcomes.
[47:39.080 --> 47:43.360]  And whatever we do, do our best not to give them the reaction and responses that they're
[47:43.360 --> 47:45.800]  asking for.
[47:45.800 --> 47:53.160]  If you're not certain what to do, do like a guy I saw on the stand once that I was most
[47:53.160 --> 47:55.640]  impressed with.
[47:55.640 --> 48:04.120]  Every time he was asked a question, he sat there and looked at the lawyer for 30 to 45
[48:04.120 --> 48:11.400]  seconds before he answered, and the lawyer was getting disconcerted.
[48:11.400 --> 48:20.200]  And at one point, he objected and asked the judge to order the witness to answer.
[48:20.200 --> 48:22.680]  And the judge asked the witness, are you going to answer?
[48:22.680 --> 48:26.600]  She said, yes, Your Honor, but I apologize if I took time.
[48:26.600 --> 48:30.680]  But I was considering my answer.
[48:30.680 --> 48:38.680]  I wanted to be sure that I didn't misunderstand the context of his question, and I wanted
[48:38.680 --> 48:45.880]  to be sure that in my answer, I told the truth and the whole truth.
[48:45.880 --> 48:51.280]  And the judge said, take your time.
[48:51.280 --> 49:00.520]  But it was so incredibly disconcerting because we do tit for tat.
[49:00.520 --> 49:07.040]  I make a statement, I expect, bam, an immediate answer.
[49:07.040 --> 49:13.880]  They make a statement that the impetus is on me to answer immediately.
[49:13.880 --> 49:21.640]  And if you'll notice, police officers and lawyers and judges, they get very good at
[49:21.640 --> 49:25.000]  ignoring you.
[49:25.000 --> 49:30.920]  You say something or do something and they just completely ignore it.
[49:30.920 --> 49:36.480]  That is, I wonder sometimes how they can do that because it's in this society we live
[49:36.480 --> 49:45.040]  in, we generally, it's considered bad form not to respond to someone else.
[49:45.040 --> 49:50.400]  But they have elevated it to an art form.
[49:50.400 --> 49:52.360]  And we need to watch them.
[49:52.360 --> 49:57.320]  We need to watch how they do that and learn that tool.
[49:57.320 --> 49:59.120]  You might just practice with people.
[49:59.120 --> 50:03.800]  When somebody asks you a question, just don't answer.
[50:03.800 --> 50:04.800]  And watch what happens.
[50:04.800 --> 50:06.840]  It gets really interesting.
[50:06.840 --> 50:12.640]  And it's not necessarily to irritate people or certified or anything like that, but learn
[50:12.640 --> 50:15.400]  how to do it.
[50:15.400 --> 50:19.600]  Learn how not to respond to a provocation.
[50:19.600 --> 50:25.720]  But the best way to protect you from that, when you go in the door, your purpose in the
[50:25.720 --> 50:33.480]  trial court is always set the record for appeal.
[50:33.480 --> 50:38.960]  If you have all of the issues you need to win your case, you don't care what the other
[50:38.960 --> 50:39.960]  guy's got.
[50:39.960 --> 50:45.800]  And for years, I spent a tremendous amount of time trying to figure out how to respond
[50:45.800 --> 50:51.080]  to anything that the other side would throw at me.
[50:51.080 --> 50:58.060]  If I look at the issue and research out the issue and decide what is necessary for me
[50:58.060 --> 51:03.740]  to win my case, nothing else matters.
[51:03.740 --> 51:12.080]  If it does not go to the facts and the law that address the issue, it just doesn't matter.
[51:12.080 --> 51:21.200]  So I'm going to go in with the purpose of setting the record for appeal and for giving
[51:21.200 --> 51:29.400]  me opportunities to thump the other guys.
[51:29.400 --> 51:38.360]  Give me opportunities to sneak up on them and clobber them when they don't expect it.
[51:38.360 --> 51:48.560]  In this court today, the judge acted absolutely outrageous, but I didn't get excited.
[51:48.560 --> 51:51.640]  I didn't care.
[51:51.640 --> 51:57.480]  Generally when the judge does this kind of stuff, you feel defeated, you feel betrayed
[51:57.480 --> 51:58.800]  by the court.
[51:58.800 --> 52:06.560]  I didn't because I only had one thing I was bringing to the court that mattered, and that
[52:06.560 --> 52:08.040]  was subject matter jurisdiction.
[52:08.040 --> 52:11.600]  I didn't care about anything else.
[52:11.600 --> 52:20.080]  And when he denied it, out of work, I'm ready for that, Bubba, because in this case, subject
[52:20.080 --> 52:25.840]  matter jurisdiction, the only time you can sue a judge is when he acts without subject
[52:25.840 --> 52:28.160]  matter jurisdiction.
[52:28.160 --> 52:31.280]  And once you challenge jurisdiction, it must be proved.
[52:31.280 --> 52:35.920]  So I challenged it and I didn't want him to prove it.
[52:35.920 --> 52:40.160]  That way I can sue him.
[52:40.160 --> 52:41.560]  That's exactly what I will do.
[52:41.560 --> 52:44.760]  I didn't tell him I could sue him.
[52:44.760 --> 52:48.200]  That would be giving fair warning.
[52:48.200 --> 52:53.920]  Giving fair warning may be okay in civil behavior, but when you go into court, that is not civil
[52:53.920 --> 52:54.920]  behavior.
[52:54.920 --> 53:00.800]  Oh, it kind of looks like civil behavior, but it's not.
[53:00.800 --> 53:05.920]  It's legal behavior and you're not speaking English.
[53:05.920 --> 53:09.960]  Yeah, it sounds like English, but it's not English.
[53:09.960 --> 53:13.040]  It's legalese.
[53:13.040 --> 53:22.540]  And the lawyers will use the similarity between English and legalese to twist you up.
[53:22.540 --> 53:29.640]  One of the disciplines we have to develop is make sure we know what all of the words
[53:29.640 --> 53:33.520]  mean that we use.
[53:33.520 --> 53:38.200]  If you don't know what a word means, look it up.
[53:38.200 --> 53:54.120]  And especially in legal issues, the non-functional words, the connecting words, I keep losing
[53:54.120 --> 54:02.520]  the terms I want, most of the descriptive words, the verbs and adverbs, most of the
[54:02.520 --> 54:10.320]  predicates, pretty well all have the same meanings in common language and in legalese.
[54:10.320 --> 54:19.280]  It is the specific terms like person, person, vehicle, travel.
[54:19.280 --> 54:30.420]  These words have totally different meanings in legalese than they do in common language.
[54:30.420 --> 54:34.800]  So we need to be real careful and understand we're not speaking English and this is not
[54:34.800 --> 54:36.180]  civil behavior.
[54:36.180 --> 54:39.600]  In the courtroom, you don't give the other side fair warning.
[54:39.600 --> 54:43.800]  You're only giving the warning the law absolutely requires you to give him.
[54:43.800 --> 54:52.080]  It is perfectly all right and it's perfectly legal to set the other guy up so you can clobber
[54:52.080 --> 54:53.080]  him.
[54:53.080 --> 54:57.240]  It's like playing chess.
[54:57.240 --> 55:06.960]  So we go in and we have a tremendous advantage when we're dealing with public officials because
[55:06.960 --> 55:11.120]  they have specific duties.
[55:11.120 --> 55:18.960]  I went into a court in Mansfield, Texas, it was a JP court, and stood up, I've told this
[55:18.960 --> 55:27.080]  story before and I think I told it last night, and told the judge that I had a hearing disability
[55:27.080 --> 55:33.440]  and asked him to turn the sound system up and he refused so I asked him to speak up
[55:33.440 --> 55:38.880]  and he did and told the bailiff, I didn't sit down and shut up, that the bailiff was
[55:38.880 --> 55:41.360]  to throw me out of the courtroom.
[55:41.360 --> 55:44.560]  Well I didn't argue with the judge.
[55:44.560 --> 55:47.200]  The judge had no clue.
[55:47.200 --> 55:49.200]  I was setting him up.
[55:49.200 --> 55:59.080]  Now I'm going to sue the judge for failing to provide accommodation for the hearing impaired
[55:59.080 --> 56:04.680]  in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
[56:04.680 --> 56:10.320]  I'm not going to ask the judge to do anything that the law does not require him to do and
[56:10.320 --> 56:14.040]  then when he doesn't do it, gotcha.
[56:14.040 --> 56:19.560]  Randall County, when I asked to see the records and was directed to the computer and I said
[56:19.560 --> 56:24.520]  the computer wasn't sufficient, I needed to see the hard copy and she refused.
[56:24.520 --> 56:28.880]  Then I called 911 while I'm waiting for the police to come.
[56:28.880 --> 56:35.120]  The clerk comes out with a lieutenant who gave me a hard time and the lieutenant started
[56:35.120 --> 56:40.520]  to talk to me and I stopped him and told him that I can't be talking to you.
[56:40.520 --> 56:44.680]  I have an officer come in and I'll give him a full report but since I'm making criminal
[56:44.680 --> 56:49.960]  accusations against both of you, it would be inappropriate for me to have further conversation
[56:49.960 --> 56:56.520]  and the bailiff, one of the other bailiffs said, well she has the records you asked for.
[56:56.520 --> 57:02.440]  Sorry Bubba, that bail's already been rung.
[57:02.440 --> 57:11.760]  The look on the clerk's face when I said that was absolutely priceless.
[57:11.760 --> 57:16.960]  She could not believe this was happening.
[57:16.960 --> 57:18.920]  Maybe she shouldn't have given you such a hard time.
[57:18.920 --> 57:20.600]  She has a duty.
[57:20.600 --> 57:22.800]  She is your employee.
[57:22.800 --> 57:25.080]  That's right and I didn't tell her it was her duty.
[57:25.080 --> 57:29.960]  I didn't argue with her and she refused to give me the records.
[57:29.960 --> 57:37.680]  I said wait right here, don't go anywhere, somebody's going to want to talk to you.
[57:37.680 --> 57:42.080]  I opened the door, called the bailiff over and asked him to arrest her.
[57:42.080 --> 57:50.440]  No warning, no second chance, no Mr. Nice Guy, welcome to the deep end of the pool guys.
[57:50.440 --> 57:52.600]  I set you up for that one.
[57:52.600 --> 57:55.040]  How does it feel?
[57:55.040 --> 58:01.400]  If we're going to change the way these officials react and respond, this is how we're going
[58:01.400 --> 58:06.840]  to get it done and the only way we're going to get this done is we do our homework first
[58:06.840 --> 58:12.600]  and develop all of the things we can beat them up with and go in there armed for bear.
[58:12.600 --> 58:14.960]  When I come back we're going to start taking calls.
[58:14.960 --> 58:22.280]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio here with Steve Skidmore.
[58:22.280 --> 58:29.720]  I call all the numbers, 512-646-1984, Lon, Dale, George, I'm sorry to hold you guys up
[58:29.720 --> 58:37.200]  for so long but I'm struggling with this issue trying to find out, develop a way to present
[58:37.200 --> 58:42.800]  it that's cogent and understandable.
[58:42.800 --> 58:48.360]  So if everybody is confused right now, that's okay, I'm just practicing, we'll be right
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[01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:42.920]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we're on our radio on this Friday, the 10th
[01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:50.200]  day of January 2014, and we're going to go to calls, we're going to go to Lon and Wisconsin.
[01:03:50.200 --> 01:03:54.880]  Excuse me, Lon, what do you have for us today?
[01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.600]  Hey, Randy, David, I talked to him a little bit earlier today and he asked me to call
[01:03:59.600 --> 01:04:01.480]  in and ask you a few questions.
[01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.640]  We're just kind of getting going in this whole process.
[01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:12.480]  We've got a process server that's trying to serve us a summons and complaint from the
[01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.060]  trustee.
[01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:19.280]  Do we want to keep dodging them as long as possible or do we just get the papers and
[01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:20.280]  move forward?
[01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:25.680]  No, yeah, get the papers and move forward, dodging doesn't do much good.
[01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:27.600]  Just go ahead and get the papers.
[01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:32.640]  There are so many things we can do that we don't worry about.
[01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:41.240]  I went in today, what I talked about earlier was an eviction hearing.
[01:04:41.240 --> 01:04:47.400]  I told the judge, you know, judge, if you decide that you have subject management jurisdiction
[01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:55.880]  and you allow these people to evict this person, then they're going to create an incredible
[01:04:55.880 --> 01:05:03.600]  harm to the person they're throwing out of the property that can't be repaired.
[01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:10.600]  And they will be sued and we'll be in court with them until we both get old.
[01:05:10.600 --> 01:05:20.120]  So it would be appropriate here to stop these proceedings until this lawyer goes to her
[01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:29.640]  employer and make sure that she has the standing to make the claims that she's making.
[01:05:29.640 --> 01:05:34.480]  So I didn't care what the judge did, go ahead, give me that ruling.
[01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.120]  I'll appeal it.
[01:05:36.120 --> 01:05:42.000]  Then I'll file criminal charges against the judge and then I'm going to sue the judge
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.400]  for official oppression.
[01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:49.920]  So do whatever you want to judge.
[01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:54.800]  In all of these issues, we have so many things we can throw at these guys.
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:06:04.240]  Since the year 2000, at that time, the banks implemented a plan they had been working on
[01:06:04.240 --> 01:06:06.720]  for about 10 years.
[01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:15.240]  They set up MERS in 1995, but MERS was illegal until they removed the Glass-Steel Act and
[01:06:15.240 --> 01:06:24.240]  the prohibition on derivatives trading, and that was done in 1999 and 2000 respectively.
[01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:28.440]  So they put together MERS five years before they could use it.
[01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:37.000]  Once they got these legislative changes at the turn of the millennium, they started trying
[01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:43.200]  to drive a square peg in a round hole.
[01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:45.640]  It looked like a perfect match.
[01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:55.880]  We have a long-term indebtedness mated with a long-term investment, residential mortgage
[01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.960]  mated with retirement funds.
[01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:08.960]  It seemed the perfect scheme problem was real property has reporting requirements that other
[01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:14.400]  kinds of investments don't have.
[01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:20.040]  There was just no way to get around these reporting requirements.
[01:07:20.040 --> 01:07:23.840]  You understand why that's a problem.
[01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:30.320]  They put all these notes together in one large pool, and then they may have three or four
[01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:36.040]  of these pools going at once, and they've got one that's producing a profit, another
[01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:37.400]  one that's losing money.
[01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:44.760]  So what they want to do is cut a slice, a tranche, off the one that's profitable and
[01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:54.800]  move it over to the one that's not, so they can not lose money by taking the profit off
[01:07:54.800 --> 01:08:00.920]  of the one they don't have to pay taxes on it, so they can adjust their income stream
[01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.920]  this way.
[01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:08.160]  The problem is when they take that tranche off, the reporting requirements for real properties
[01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:18.280]  require that they report the change in beneficial interest in the note at 25 to 50 bucks a pop
[01:08:18.280 --> 01:08:22.920]  when you've got 10,000 notes in here.
[01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:29.480]  That would make it financially unfeasible, especially when they may move these tranches
[01:08:29.480 --> 01:08:34.360]  back and forth one or two times a week.
[01:08:34.360 --> 01:08:39.240]  So they had to find a way to get around these reporting requirements.
[01:08:39.240 --> 01:08:47.760]  Well, they come up with MERS, but they just didn't get it done right.
[01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:56.120]  So even if MERS is not in your note, all of these things have been securitized.
[01:08:56.120 --> 01:09:05.220]  They may not be doing it now after 2012, but they were still doing it up to 2011, and it
[01:09:05.220 --> 01:09:14.020]  created problems with document filings in the county record.
[01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:17.000]  You have so much stuff you could throw at these guys.
[01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.400]  Now with all that said, let me go back.
[01:09:20.400 --> 01:09:28.680]  Do you have a specific question about your situation other than that accepting service?
[01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:35.720]  Yeah, we've got the Bloomberg securitization audit that we've already had done.
[01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.440]  How do we get that into the records?
[01:09:38.440 --> 01:09:47.080]  Well, it depends on whether or not what you got in the audit is relevant.
[01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:51.680]  There are a lot of people out there doing these audits that I've looked at, and I read
[01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:55.120]  the audit and I say, so what?
[01:09:55.120 --> 01:10:04.960]  You're telling me that the note was securitized into this particular trust, so what?
[01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.720]  What is the specific problem?
[01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:12.680]  And most of them just give you a lot of general information.
[01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:20.160]  And often, I don't even ask for a securities audit.
[01:10:20.160 --> 01:10:27.040]  This goes to three or four years ago or four or five years ago, everybody jumped on the
[01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:32.640]  bad wagon of show me the note, and all these audits go to show me the note.
[01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.800]  I don't care about the note.
[01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:45.320]  All I care about is where is the beneficial interest in the note, who has a right to collect
[01:10:45.320 --> 01:10:52.200]  the income stream, and do I have anything in the county record?
[01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:57.680]  Everything revolves around what is filed in the county recorder's office.
[01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:04.440]  All claims against the property have to be in the county recorder's office.
[01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:11.360]  Now, securitization goes a bit more to the validity of the note, and I don't really even
[01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:13.600]  get to the note.
[01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:20.320]  The first thing and the thing that will stop the foreclosure is the deed of trust or the
[01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:26.800]  mortgage if you're in a non-judicial state, and I think Wisconsin's kind of splits the
[01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.600]  line on that.
[01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:40.600]  But they have a mortgage, and the mortgage in the loan, in the whole mortgage itself,
[01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:48.320]  there are three documents, the warranty deed, note, and the security instrument.
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:55.240]  And if you're in a non-judicial state, that security instrument is called a mortgage document.
[01:11:55.240 --> 01:11:58.640]  That's what it's titled, but it's actually a security instrument.
[01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:02.520]  All three of these documents constitute the mortgage.
[01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:07.040]  We don't spend much time on the warranty deed, because that's generally filed in the name
[01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:15.920]  of the borrower, and it's not a document that becomes an issue.
[01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.840]  But the note and the security instrument, they become issues.
[01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:27.720]  The note puts a promise to pay, the security instrument is an instrument that grants privileges
[01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:37.000]  to the lender in consideration of the lender granting you this loan.
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:45.360]  However, it grants those privileges with stipulations and conditions.
[01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:54.040]  So primarily where we go to start with is we say the lender, the borrower created this
[01:12:54.040 --> 01:13:01.520]  security instrument and granted certain privileges to the lender, and in this case, you granted
[01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:05.960]  the lender the privilege of a claim against the property.
[01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:10.920]  Normally, a lender, if someone loaned you some money and you didn't pay them back, they
[01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:17.840]  would have to go to the court and sue you and get a judgment against you.
[01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:23.360]  And then petition the court for a claim against your assets so that they could liquidate your
[01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:25.880]  assets to satisfy the judgment.
[01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.640]  Well, the bank said, that's not good enough.
[01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:36.880]  I want you to confess the claim against the property so that I don't have to sue you,
[01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.840]  I in effect sue the property.
[01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:45.080]  So that if I get a judgment, the judgment is against the property automatically and
[01:13:45.080 --> 01:13:49.760]  I can take the property, I can liquidate the property to satisfy the obligation.
[01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:57.120]  In a non-judicial state, you also grant a judgment, a confessed judgment.
[01:13:57.120 --> 01:14:00.080]  So they don't even have to go to court and get a judgment.
[01:14:00.080 --> 01:14:01.600]  They already got the judgment.
[01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.840]  They already got the claim against the property.
[01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:05.800]  They can just move in full clubs.
[01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:06.800]  Okay.
[01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:17.960]  These are privileges that the borrower granted to the lender with stipulations and conditions.
[01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:24.520]  They under the condition that when they charge fees, they only charge fees that are authorized
[01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:32.840]  by law, that they make all notices as required by law by certified mail, that they abide
[01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:40.480]  by all state, federal and local laws applying to this kind of transaction.
[01:14:40.480 --> 01:14:43.720]  These are primary stipulations.
[01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:51.920]  If the lender breaches one of those, they are in default of the contract and may no
[01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:57.480]  longer claim the privileges granted in the contract.
[01:14:57.480 --> 01:14:59.320]  Does that make sense, Lon?
[01:14:59.320 --> 01:15:01.920]  It does.
[01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:07.200]  We only go to securitization after we've danced through that mortgage.
[01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:16.640]  Well, Bubba, the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act required that you give me this notice.
[01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.000]  You did not give me this notice.
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:28.800]  So we do not make a claim under the remedy created by the legislature for a violation
[01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.040]  of the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act.
[01:15:31.040 --> 01:15:34.020]  We don't care about that.
[01:15:34.020 --> 01:15:42.200]  We care about Covenant 16 of the security instrument where you agreed to abide by all
[01:15:42.200 --> 01:15:46.360]  applicable law and here you violated one.
[01:15:46.360 --> 01:15:52.720]  You violated it deliberately that constitutes voluntary rescission of the document and repudiation
[01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:54.580]  of the contract.
[01:15:54.580 --> 01:16:01.320]  So now you can't claim the privilege and it only takes one.
[01:16:01.320 --> 01:16:03.180]  And we can find a lot of them.
[01:16:03.180 --> 01:16:11.160]  If you've got MERS in there, I don't know who wrote that document, but he had to be
[01:16:11.160 --> 01:16:15.720]  high on coke or something.
[01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:22.440]  The first portion, the first page and a half or so are all definitions.
[01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:26.520]  MERS is not appointed there.
[01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:29.320]  That doesn't appoint anything.
[01:16:29.320 --> 01:16:38.840]  It just defines down at the spot, this third page is where the contract actually starts
[01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:39.840]  and hang on.
[01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:40.840]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.120]  I'll pick that up when I come back on the other side.
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[01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:38.360]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Steve Skidmore with La Radio and we're talking
[01:19:38.360 --> 01:19:43.840]  about the claims you can make against the lender.
[01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:46.920]  There are lots of them.
[01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:56.560]  And so unless you're about to be thrown out tomorrow, there are so many things you can
[01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:05.080]  do to the lender to back him off, to hold him in court, that you should be able to keep
[01:20:05.080 --> 01:20:10.760]  him at bay for five or six years relatively easily.
[01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:21.680]  And in doing this, you know, Lon, if you have MERS in your documentation, you have a number
[01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:22.680]  of more claims.
[01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:27.440]  And rather than go through all of them right now, I have a bunch of callers, so I want
[01:20:27.440 --> 01:20:31.560]  to make sure I can get to everybody.
[01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:38.720]  Do you have a, okay, let me ask you a few basic questions about what's going on.
[01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.000]  Who was the original lender?
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  First Franklin.
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:51.280]  Is First Franklin, is there a assignment, a corporate assignment of deed of trust or
[01:20:51.280 --> 01:20:56.760]  corporate assignment of mortgage to another entity filed in the county records?
[01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.040]  No, not in the county records.
[01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:05.580]  They did that back in 2007 when we first got the mortgage, they did it with the county
[01:21:05.580 --> 01:21:13.200]  register with LaSalle Bank out of Chicago or LaSalle N.A. as the trustee.
[01:21:13.200 --> 01:21:22.280]  And now just back in June, okay, trustee is different.
[01:21:22.280 --> 01:21:23.280]  Corporate assignment.
[01:21:23.280 --> 01:21:26.520]  Is First Franklin still in business?
[01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:31.520]  No, they're out of business.
[01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:36.520]  In law, and we talked about earlier about definitions of terms and the one I mentioned
[01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:42.000]  was person and the reason I mentioned person was this.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.240]  First Franklin was a person.
[01:21:45.240 --> 01:21:52.400]  Under law, a legal fiction is a person, a corporation, an LLC, a simple company.
[01:21:52.400 --> 01:21:58.640]  You create a company, give it a company name, that's a person under law and it has rights
[01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:04.360]  similar to what the living, breathing human being would have.
[01:22:04.360 --> 01:22:07.760]  Well this person died.
[01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:17.600]  So who is claiming authority to collect on the indebtedness?
[01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:23.920]  Well right now they go through a whole succession of different N.A.s, but now they're saying
[01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.640]  it's U.S. Bank.
[01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:31.160]  But none of that was recorded in the recorder's office.
[01:22:31.160 --> 01:22:39.640]  The only thing that matters is what's filed in the county recorder's office.
[01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:48.560]  If they're not reflected in the recorder's office, they don't have a adjudicatable claim.
[01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:56.960]  And the problem is if 1st Franklin went out of business without doing a corporate transfer
[01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:07.720]  to someone else, then when 1st Franklin went out of business, the person died.
[01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:13.880]  And once they're dead, if they didn't transfer the claim, they waived it.
[01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:18.800]  So there is no claim, no adjudicatable claim.
[01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:27.240]  So if you have a number of transfers, you don't need a securitization audit because
[01:23:27.240 --> 01:23:35.080]  there's absolutely no doubt that it was transferred between entities.
[01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:38.240]  You have it by evidence in the record.
[01:23:38.240 --> 01:23:47.640]  Now if I get one, like I have one that the note was given to by Wells Fargo, and Wells
[01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:54.760]  Fargo, there's never a corporate transfer of deed of trust, and Wells Fargo's doing
[01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:56.800]  the foreclosure.
[01:23:56.800 --> 01:24:02.280]  Well, from looking at the record, there's no problem here.
[01:24:02.280 --> 01:24:09.480]  There is a clear uninterrupted chain of title because only one person is in the chain.
[01:24:09.480 --> 01:24:16.920]  So now we want a securitization audit to see if there was a change in beneficial interest
[01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:22.320]  that should have been reported but had not been reported.
[01:24:22.320 --> 01:24:26.240]  Does that make sense?
[01:24:26.240 --> 01:24:27.240]  It does.
[01:24:27.240 --> 01:24:28.240]  It does.
[01:24:28.240 --> 01:24:34.920]  Yeah, if I have evidence that it's been sold, heck, I don't need a securitization audit.
[01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.920]  Heck, it's right there in the record.
[01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:43.280]  It's interesting, and it's also known to most signers on the assignment that we've
[01:24:43.280 --> 01:24:44.280]  looked at.
[01:24:44.280 --> 01:24:45.280]  Oh, that's...
[01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:53.120]  Okay, we will get you a set of documents to send to all of the companies that have a document
[01:24:53.120 --> 01:25:00.120]  filed with somebody's name on it, and you will say, I got this document filed where
[01:25:00.120 --> 01:25:05.520]  this person signed as a power of attorney for your company.
[01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:10.640]  Will you please provide me with evidence of said power of attorney?
[01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:17.040]  Now, you can go into court and say, Your Honor, this guy's a robot signer.
[01:25:17.040 --> 01:25:18.040]  Why?
[01:25:18.040 --> 01:25:23.040]  His name is blattered all over the internet, and the judge is going to say, so what?
[01:25:23.040 --> 01:25:30.760]  That does not mean that in this case, this person does not have power of attorney to
[01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.680]  sign for this entity.
[01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:38.720]  So we send that letter out, and we don't get a response, and then we come into the court
[01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:43.840]  and say, Your Honor, this guy's name is blattered all over the internet.
[01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:52.760]  So we sent a request for evidence of power of attorney, and we did not get a response.
[01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:58.960]  Therefore, we have reason to believe and do believe that this guy's a robot signer.
[01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:07.000]  Now you've given the judge prima facie evidence sufficient to overcome the presumption of
[01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:12.120]  regularity of all documents filed in the record.
[01:26:12.120 --> 01:26:20.120]  When a document is filed in the record, it is presumed to be regular unless it is challenged.
[01:26:20.120 --> 01:26:26.560]  And you can't just say, this document's a piece of garbage.
[01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:33.400]  You need to go in and say, this document is insufficient for this reason.
[01:26:33.400 --> 01:26:40.880]  And here you say, this document does not show that the individual has power of attorney.
[01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:49.000]  We have prima facie evidence to believe that he does not have power of attorney as we requested
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.920]  evidence of power of attorney.
[01:26:51.920 --> 01:27:04.360]  And inasmuch as the filing of the document made a proactive statement of fact, then our
[01:27:04.360 --> 01:27:13.260]  request for proof of that fact reflects a duty in the company to respond and prove up
[01:27:13.260 --> 01:27:14.260]  the fact.
[01:27:14.260 --> 01:27:20.000]  In other words, a failure to respond when there's a duty to respond, where the failure
[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:27.920]  to respond would cause a false impression is equated as fraud.
[01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:34.240]  Now you have prima facie evidence of fraud because they didn't answer.
[01:27:34.240 --> 01:27:36.800]  Did that make sense or did I get that too twisted up?
[01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:37.960]  It totally makes sense.
[01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:38.960]  It totally makes sense.
[01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:39.960]  Okay.
[01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:45.400]  And we do the same thing with the notaries.
[01:27:45.400 --> 01:27:51.920]  Every notary signature, you send the notary a letter saying, we would like evidence of
[01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:57.960]  all authentications performed by you from the day before to the day after the date on
[01:27:57.960 --> 01:27:59.760]  this document.
[01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:09.000]  And if they give you, generally we have gotten some log books back, but we haven't got any
[01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.520]  back that had a proper log book entry.
[01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.400]  Most of the times we don't get one back at all.
[01:28:16.400 --> 01:28:24.360]  So that gives you prima facie evidence to believe that the acknowledgement is insufficient
[01:28:24.360 --> 01:28:29.600]  and that's enough to strike a document from the record.
[01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:37.760]  Okay, I've kind of run over you there, I'll just kind of run on here.
[01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:40.000]  Do you have specific questions?
[01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:45.880]  You had a question about the Bluebird audit, but from what I can gather in the documentation
[01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:51.840]  you have available to you, you probably don't need the audit unless something specific comes
[01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:52.840]  up.
[01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:53.840]  Yeah, it does.
[01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:59.840]  They do spell it out pretty clearly about the separation of the note and the mortgage.
[01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:03.280]  So it's pretty clear if a judge is going to read it, it should help.
[01:29:03.280 --> 01:29:04.280]  Okay.
[01:29:04.280 --> 01:29:09.960]  So that's not the issue, the separation of the note and the mortgage.
[01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:16.960]  What is the issue is the separation of the beneficial interest in the note.
[01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:24.200]  Because they could, I've got the original note and here I have the original security
[01:29:24.200 --> 01:29:25.200]  instrument.
[01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:35.160]  And we're going to say, okay, did you at any time negotiate away a partial interest in
[01:29:35.160 --> 01:29:42.440]  that note that you still have, specifically the beneficial interest in the note?
[01:29:42.440 --> 01:29:46.640]  That's the part that's important, the right to the income stream.
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[01:33:43.780 --> 01:33:44.780]  issue.
[01:33:44.780 --> 01:33:46.780]  Go ahead, Steve.
[01:33:46.780 --> 01:33:47.780]  Bifurcation.
[01:33:47.780 --> 01:33:57.380]  A lot of people used to think that bifurcation, bifurcation defined as simply a separation.
[01:33:57.380 --> 01:34:03.540]  People still try to link the separation of the note from the deed of trust and use Carpenter
[01:34:03.540 --> 01:34:04.540]  V. Longin.
[01:34:04.540 --> 01:34:09.100]  Here in Texas, Carpenter V. Longin is all but moot.
[01:34:09.100 --> 01:34:18.940]  There is long, well-precedented case law that in contract law, regarding contract law that
[01:34:18.940 --> 01:34:25.740]  states that generally that any time any two or more instruments are created at the same
[01:34:25.740 --> 01:34:32.660]  time for the same purpose, in the course of the same transaction, they are to be viewed
[01:34:32.660 --> 01:34:38.780]  and read as one and are to be construed as together.
[01:34:38.780 --> 01:34:44.300]  So it doesn't matter if Bob has the note and George has the deed of trust.
[01:34:44.300 --> 01:34:46.020]  It doesn't matter.
[01:34:46.020 --> 01:34:50.580]  They are construed together because of their creation.
[01:34:50.580 --> 01:34:53.340]  Now, bifurcation being a separation.
[01:34:53.340 --> 01:34:59.780]  When Randy was talking about what happened to the beneficial interest, let's step back
[01:34:59.780 --> 01:35:06.460]  and do a little analysis from two different points of view.
[01:35:06.460 --> 01:35:15.820]  Let's put on our people glasses and look at the, let's say you ask the servicer to produce
[01:35:15.820 --> 01:35:21.180]  the original wedding documents and he writes back and says, they're down at the courthouse,
[01:35:21.180 --> 01:35:22.580]  go take a look.
[01:35:22.580 --> 01:35:23.580]  Help yourself.
[01:35:23.580 --> 01:35:24.580]  Just don't take them with you.
[01:35:24.580 --> 01:35:29.760]  Well, you go down there and sure enough, that's, wow, okay, I got my people glasses on and
[01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:36.980]  I see this says note and it says here paragraph two or paragraph three says, I promise to
[01:35:36.980 --> 01:35:37.980]  pay.
[01:35:37.980 --> 01:35:38.980]  Okay.
[01:35:38.980 --> 01:35:43.060]  That's your intangible revenue stream.
[01:35:43.060 --> 01:35:44.920]  That is the beneficial interest.
[01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:51.140]  That is the only thing on that paper that gives that paper value.
[01:35:51.140 --> 01:35:58.100]  Now let's take a look at the same piece of paper with our legal glasses on.
[01:35:58.100 --> 01:36:03.460]  So we take our people glasses off and we put our legal glasses on and we look at the same
[01:36:03.460 --> 01:36:07.200]  document and we get down to the same paragraph and it's gone.
[01:36:07.200 --> 01:36:08.200]  It's blank.
[01:36:08.200 --> 01:36:09.700]  It's not there.
[01:36:09.700 --> 01:36:12.300]  Well, this is just a piece of paper.
[01:36:12.300 --> 01:36:13.300]  It has nothing.
[01:36:13.300 --> 01:36:16.700]  It's the promise to pay is gone.
[01:36:16.700 --> 01:36:20.060]  The amount is gone.
[01:36:20.060 --> 01:36:23.980]  The payment information, it's gone.
[01:36:23.980 --> 01:36:26.220]  There's nothing here.
[01:36:26.220 --> 01:36:27.220]  It's paper.
[01:36:27.220 --> 01:36:28.220]  How did all of this go?
[01:36:28.220 --> 01:36:35.060]  It was sold into the securities pools, into the secondary markets.
[01:36:35.060 --> 01:36:36.060]  It's gone.
[01:36:36.060 --> 01:36:44.780]  Now you go back to UCC or the state equivalent that's been adopted by all 50 states.
[01:36:44.780 --> 01:36:51.300]  Go to the uniform commercial code either for your state or for the federal UCC and I'll
[01:36:51.300 --> 01:36:59.860]  just use the federal, for example, 3-203D is in David.
[01:36:59.860 --> 01:37:06.700]  If the, keep in mind this element has been bifurcated, it has been separated, okay?
[01:37:06.700 --> 01:37:08.940]  It is now less than the entire instrument.
[01:37:08.940 --> 01:37:10.140]  Actually it's just a piece of paper.
[01:37:10.140 --> 01:37:11.900]  It's not an instrument at all.
[01:37:11.900 --> 01:37:14.380]  It resembles an instrument, but it has no value.
[01:37:14.380 --> 01:37:17.820]  That's been stripped and sold.
[01:37:17.820 --> 01:37:25.860]  If a transferor purports to transfer less than the entire instrument, negotiation does
[01:37:25.860 --> 01:37:27.860]  not occur.
[01:37:27.860 --> 01:37:35.700]  It goes on to say that any rights transferred are partial rights.
[01:37:35.700 --> 01:37:38.500]  Now where's their right?
[01:37:38.500 --> 01:37:43.020]  Who has the right to enforce this instrument?
[01:37:43.020 --> 01:37:45.260]  Are you the party entitled to enforce it?
[01:37:45.260 --> 01:37:48.700]  Is it enforceable at all?
[01:37:48.700 --> 01:37:50.460]  Would be my first question.
[01:37:50.460 --> 01:37:54.340]  Is this instrument still eligible for negotiation?
[01:37:54.340 --> 01:37:56.700]  Well, apparently not.
[01:37:56.700 --> 01:38:04.900]  If they, what they did was they made a carbon copy of it, not really even a carbon copy.
[01:38:04.900 --> 01:38:11.140]  They made an electronic copy, an e-note and they sold that e-note.
[01:38:11.140 --> 01:38:15.780]  That e-note stripped the value from the wedding document.
[01:38:15.780 --> 01:38:19.980]  So when you go down there to the bank and you look at that wedding document, you're
[01:38:19.980 --> 01:38:24.980]  not looking at prima facie evidence of anything.
[01:38:24.980 --> 01:38:32.580]  You're looking at exactly what you asked to see, but you're not asking the right questions.
[01:38:32.580 --> 01:38:38.380]  The right question is does this document have any value?
[01:38:38.380 --> 01:38:41.660]  If it's been securitized, no, it doesn't.
[01:38:41.660 --> 01:38:47.180]  The value has been stripped and sold.
[01:38:47.180 --> 01:38:52.020]  You have in front of you a pretty good toilet paper if you rough it up real good.
[01:38:52.020 --> 01:38:53.020]  Okay.
[01:38:53.020 --> 01:38:57.620]  Did, Lon, does that- Did I wear that out?
[01:38:57.620 --> 01:38:58.620]  No.
[01:38:58.620 --> 01:39:02.380]  No, I put it pretty plainly.
[01:39:02.380 --> 01:39:04.420]  I appreciate that.
[01:39:04.420 --> 01:39:12.380]  Okay, and that's the only thing we care about as far as securitization.
[01:39:12.380 --> 01:39:19.340]  The courts have really been beat up with the securitization issue and they seem to have
[01:39:19.340 --> 01:39:24.820]  gotten impatient with it, especially the federal courts.
[01:39:24.820 --> 01:39:30.460]  They just ignore it and blow it off as soon as you file it.
[01:39:30.460 --> 01:39:33.900]  What we're finding- Keep in mind.
[01:39:33.900 --> 01:39:37.300]  Keep in mind that dissertation I gave is just a partial dissertation.
[01:39:37.300 --> 01:39:38.380]  There's quite a bit more to it.
[01:39:38.380 --> 01:39:45.320]  I didn't want to go into UCC9 or any of the other code, but just to nutshell that one
[01:39:45.320 --> 01:39:49.180]  specific issue, I think I got that, but there is more to it.
[01:39:49.180 --> 01:39:50.180]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:39:50.180 --> 01:39:51.180]  I'm sorry.
[01:39:51.180 --> 01:39:52.180]  Yeah.
[01:39:52.180 --> 01:39:56.660]  There are just so many issues we can bring and I think that's the most important part
[01:39:56.660 --> 01:40:03.180]  for anyone trying to fight a foreclosure issue.
[01:40:03.180 --> 01:40:05.900]  I have people saying, well, what do you do?
[01:40:05.900 --> 01:40:12.220]  And I'm saying, well, gee, Willikert, I don't know how to answer that.
[01:40:12.220 --> 01:40:14.860]  There are so many things we can do.
[01:40:14.860 --> 01:40:16.900]  What do I pay attention to?
[01:40:16.900 --> 01:40:20.380]  All kinds of stuff.
[01:40:20.380 --> 01:40:28.860]  Primary thing is we have to understand that if you file an action as a pro se litigant,
[01:40:28.860 --> 01:40:34.580]  you can expect the courts to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:40:34.580 --> 01:40:37.420]  That doesn't mean you can't win.
[01:40:37.420 --> 01:40:40.300]  You just may not win the way you expect to.
[01:40:40.300 --> 01:40:46.780]  The trial court is just a place to leave your footprint while you step your way to appeal.
[01:40:46.780 --> 01:40:54.660]  And the whole thing is we don't expect those corrupt judges to give us a fair and honest
[01:40:54.660 --> 01:40:57.080]  decision.
[01:40:57.080 --> 01:40:58.080]  We know better.
[01:40:58.080 --> 01:40:59.080]  They're corrupt.
[01:40:59.080 --> 01:41:01.460]  They've been bought and paid for.
[01:41:01.460 --> 01:41:06.900]  They're going to do what their employers tell them to do.
[01:41:06.900 --> 01:41:12.460]  So how do we find remedy in this imperfect world?
[01:41:12.460 --> 01:41:21.780]  Well, we find remedy by realizing that everything's political and it's all about the money.
[01:41:21.780 --> 01:41:25.460]  It's always about the money.
[01:41:25.460 --> 01:41:30.980]  So we use all of these issues to cost the other side a lot of money.
[01:41:30.980 --> 01:41:36.860]  And we're beginning to look at a different way of going about this.
[01:41:36.860 --> 01:41:45.860]  Sometimes it's hard to look at an issue from inside the issue and see the whole thing.
[01:41:45.860 --> 01:41:54.900]  We've been looking at foreclosures from the perspective of how to stop the banks.
[01:41:54.900 --> 01:42:03.140]  And I'm beginning to think that that may not be the best way to look at this.
[01:42:03.140 --> 01:42:11.820]  What may be a better way to look at this is how do we bring the bank to the table to give
[01:42:11.820 --> 01:42:15.460]  us a deal we can't pass up?
[01:42:15.460 --> 01:42:23.380]  Now if you go to the bank and ask for a loan modification, they're going to screw you.
[01:42:23.380 --> 01:42:31.620]  If you go to the bank and ask for a short sale, they're going to tell you to go scratch.
[01:42:31.620 --> 01:42:32.900]  Because it's all about the money.
[01:42:32.900 --> 01:42:37.260]  They're going to try to get as much money out of the property as they can.
[01:42:37.260 --> 01:42:39.980]  So we have to find leverage.
[01:42:39.980 --> 01:42:44.780]  If they can get you out, they can make more on the derivatives.
[01:42:44.780 --> 01:42:45.780]  Yeah.
[01:42:45.780 --> 01:42:52.860]  Well, that and there's a lot of, there's something I suspect that I haven't been able to prove
[01:42:52.860 --> 01:42:58.900]  up and that is that they have sold the note a number of times.
[01:42:58.900 --> 01:43:06.060]  And if it forecloses, then they have to pay off all of these people who bought the note.
[01:43:06.060 --> 01:43:11.020]  And that's going to, I'm sorry, if it doesn't foreclose, they're going to have to pay off
[01:43:11.020 --> 01:43:12.380]  all these people who bought the note.
[01:43:12.380 --> 01:43:19.700]  They need it to foreclose because they have forced you to purchase mortgage insurance.
[01:43:19.700 --> 01:43:27.340]  And so what they do is they take the note and negotiate it into a pool.
[01:43:27.340 --> 01:43:31.540]  And these lenders all make up their own pools.
[01:43:31.540 --> 01:43:36.540]  And then they'll take these pools and aggregate them into a pass-through trust.
[01:43:36.540 --> 01:43:43.620]  Well, there's nothing keeping the lender from selling the same note into a number of different
[01:43:43.620 --> 01:43:44.620]  pools.
[01:43:44.620 --> 01:43:45.620]  Hang on.
[01:43:45.620 --> 01:43:53.020]  I'll handle that when we come back on the other side and we'll try to get to everybody.
[01:43:53.020 --> 01:43:56.740]  So if you're hanging online, hang on, we will get to you.
[01:43:56.740 --> 01:44:00.420]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:28.660 --> 01:46:31.660]  Let's rock and roll, come on, sing Jerry, come on!
[01:46:31.660 --> 01:46:38.660]  As we so, so shall we read
[01:46:38.660 --> 01:46:46.660]  So many crucial words to put on all of these things
[01:46:46.660 --> 01:46:53.660]  Try as we will to turn small steps into giant means
[01:46:53.660 --> 01:46:59.660]  As we so, so shall we read
[01:47:23.660 --> 01:47:26.660]  And they will create pools for those loans to go into
[01:47:26.660 --> 01:47:31.660]  A pool created by the lender can hold as few as three notes
[01:47:31.660 --> 01:47:36.660]  Because each pool can only hold notes with the same interest rate
[01:47:36.660 --> 01:47:40.660]  And in order to get the note into the pool
[01:47:40.660 --> 01:47:45.660]  The lender must send all the documentation to a document custodian
[01:47:45.660 --> 01:47:48.660]  Which is generally the servicer
[01:47:48.660 --> 01:47:55.660]  And the document custodian must verify to Jenny Mae that the note meets all the requirements of the pool
[01:47:55.660 --> 01:48:03.660]  And then the document custodian is required to maintain possession of all of the documents until termination of the contract
[01:48:03.660 --> 01:48:08.660]  So all this crapola about show me the note, where's the note, nobody knows, we know where it's at
[01:48:08.660 --> 01:48:11.660]  The document custodian's got it
[01:48:11.660 --> 01:48:19.660]  So then the lender will take these separate pools that he's created
[01:48:19.660 --> 01:48:31.660]  And negotiate them to an aggregator who will aggregate them into a special purpose vehicle
[01:48:31.660 --> 01:48:35.660]  And once the special purpose vehicle has enough notes in it
[01:48:35.660 --> 01:48:41.660]  They will build a pool that all of these notes in the pool have the same interest rate
[01:48:41.660 --> 01:48:49.660]  So they'll gather small pools from lenders all over and aggregate them together into one special purpose vehicle
[01:48:49.660 --> 01:48:55.660]  And they will file that with the IRS as a real estate mortgage investment conduit
[01:48:55.660 --> 01:49:01.660]  And they'll negotiate it into a pass through trust
[01:49:01.660 --> 01:49:05.660]  That's all that makes sense, let me back up
[01:49:05.660 --> 01:49:08.660]  Here's why there's a problem
[01:49:08.660 --> 01:49:16.660]  The lender, he files this note with a document custodian
[01:49:16.660 --> 01:49:21.660]  And each pool can only have notes with the same interest rate
[01:49:21.660 --> 01:49:30.660]  What is to keep the lender from changing the interest rate and putting it in another pool and selling it to another aggregator
[01:49:30.660 --> 01:49:37.660]  To originally get up 103% of the original principal amount of the note
[01:49:37.660 --> 01:49:42.660]  So what's to keep him from selling it over and over and over
[01:49:42.660 --> 01:49:49.660]  Randy, you might be onto something there because when I got started in this several years ago
[01:49:49.660 --> 01:49:58.660]  I'd spoken to someone who had followed a chain in a trust
[01:49:58.660 --> 01:50:04.660]  Back to the last or all of the investors, there were over
[01:50:04.660 --> 01:50:09.660]  God, in the chain of investors there was over 200,000
[01:50:09.660 --> 01:50:23.660]  And along the way there were 36 times the derivatives
[01:50:23.660 --> 01:50:31.660]  36 times the default swaps than there were the note itself
[01:50:31.660 --> 01:50:37.660]  So that could explain why that generates so much in the market
[01:50:37.660 --> 01:50:39.660]  Let me explain how that happens
[01:50:39.660 --> 01:50:44.660]  The first one will have a mortgage insurance on it
[01:50:44.660 --> 01:50:51.660]  I'm sure Lon's back there taking prolific notes
[01:50:51.660 --> 01:50:59.660]  The second one, he'll go to the derivatives market and buy an insurance policy on that one
[01:50:59.660 --> 01:51:01.660]  And then sell it, he'll do this for all of them
[01:51:01.660 --> 01:51:05.660]  Okay, here's how the Ponzi scheme works
[01:51:05.660 --> 01:51:11.660]  He makes 103% of the original principal on each one
[01:51:11.660 --> 01:51:15.660]  So he gets this huge pool of money
[01:51:15.660 --> 01:51:22.660]  And then every month, for every one of these he sold, if you make a payment he has to match the payment
[01:51:22.660 --> 01:51:29.660]  So he's willing to do this until you've paid off 15% of the principal
[01:51:29.660 --> 01:51:42.660]  Why 15%? Because if the note forecloses, the private mortgage insurance or the derivative will pay off 80% of the principal
[01:51:42.660 --> 01:51:51.660]  So you've got this lender, this purchaser out here who buys the note and he expects an income string
[01:51:51.660 --> 01:51:56.660]  So he gets one every month until 15% is paid down
[01:51:56.660 --> 01:52:00.660]  Then the lender wants to bankrupt the note
[01:52:00.660 --> 01:52:06.660]  Then the insurance companies come and pay off the balance
[01:52:06.660 --> 01:52:11.660]  He gets to walk away with the big pool of money
[01:52:11.660 --> 01:52:17.660]  Is that, is that evil or what?
[01:52:17.660 --> 01:52:26.660]  That's the only thing that explains the problem with these derivative insurance companies
[01:52:26.660 --> 01:52:30.660]  AIGE and Lehman Brothers, it's yours and Lehman
[01:52:30.660 --> 01:52:39.660]  They sold all these insurance contracts that were designed to have to pay it off
[01:52:39.660 --> 01:52:51.660]  And when they started crashing, these companies went out of business and they come to us to bail them out for the tune of $7 trillion
[01:52:51.660 --> 01:52:56.660]  That also explains why they want your house
[01:52:56.660 --> 01:52:59.660]  They don't care about the house
[01:52:59.660 --> 01:53:05.660]  They just got to get you out of it so they can go back on Wall Street and collect
[01:53:05.660 --> 01:53:09.660]  Well, they need a foreclosure
[01:53:09.660 --> 01:53:13.660]  Once it forecloses, all the insurance pays
[01:53:13.660 --> 01:53:16.660]  That's what they need
[01:53:16.660 --> 01:53:25.660]  So if you go in and ask them to do something in lieu of foreclosure, they are not going to want to do that
[01:53:25.660 --> 01:53:32.660]  Because then they don't get to default all of these insurance policies and get the insurance policies to pay
[01:53:32.660 --> 01:53:35.660]  They're going to have to pay all that money back
[01:53:35.660 --> 01:53:39.660]  And they probably don't have it anymore
[01:53:39.660 --> 01:53:44.660]  So how are you going to get them to bring to make a deal?
[01:53:44.660 --> 01:53:49.660]  They spent most of it in litigation fees
[01:53:49.660 --> 01:53:59.660]  So we go in and build a case and raise the case at them and say, here's what we're going to do to you
[01:53:59.660 --> 01:54:05.660]  Or you can come to the table and make us a deal that we can't pass up
[01:54:05.660 --> 01:54:07.660]  In general, you have to file a suit
[01:54:07.660 --> 01:54:15.660]  And the thing we haven't been doing or the thing we had a problem with is actually getting the banks to deal
[01:54:15.660 --> 01:54:21.660]  The banks are reluctant to deal with a prosaic litigant
[01:54:21.660 --> 01:54:25.660]  But we have tools for that
[01:54:25.660 --> 01:54:26.660]  We put enough pressure on them
[01:54:26.660 --> 01:54:32.660]  One of the things I'm suggesting is if something looks criminal, we don't care if it is criminal or not
[01:54:32.660 --> 01:54:37.660]  If it just looks criminal, then we file criminal charges
[01:54:37.660 --> 01:54:44.660]  And just go to the prosecutor and make an absolute nuisance of ourselves
[01:54:44.660 --> 01:54:49.660]  You see, this is not about laws, it's about politics
[01:54:49.660 --> 01:54:56.660]  And this portion of politics goes to the squeaky wheel syndrome
[01:54:56.660 --> 01:55:06.660]  When you're down there annoying the prosecutor, accusing him of being a low-down rotten, graft-taking shyster
[01:55:06.660 --> 01:55:09.660]  Because he's not prosecuting these chump lawyers
[01:55:09.660 --> 01:55:18.660]  He's going to go to these lawyers and say, guys, you better do something to get this no good rotten scoundrel off my case
[01:55:18.660 --> 01:55:22.660]  Or I'm going to kick your behinds
[01:55:22.660 --> 01:55:28.660]  This doesn't have anything to do with law, it has to do with politics
[01:55:28.660 --> 01:55:37.660]  I mentioned this last night, think back to just past Christmas, so the miracle on 64th Street
[01:55:37.660 --> 01:55:47.660]  This guy claims to be Santa Claus, they think he's nuts, they take him to court, and the judge is up here
[01:55:47.660 --> 01:55:52.660]  He's trying to decide what to do, he really don't believe there's such a thing as Santa Claus
[01:55:52.660 --> 01:55:55.660]  And these guys know he's a fruitcake
[01:55:55.660 --> 01:56:03.660]  But the defense lawyer goes out and gets all these letters that the post office sent to him
[01:56:03.660 --> 01:56:06.660]  Because they had all these letters, didn't know what to do with
[01:56:06.660 --> 01:56:10.660]  So this guy claimed to be Santa Claus, so this is down to him
[01:56:10.660 --> 01:56:19.660]  And then the lawyer comes in, dumps him on the judge's desk, and the judge's advisor, his campaign advisor is there
[01:56:19.660 --> 01:56:29.660]  Through the whole thing, and he's whispering in his ear, if you rule against Santa Claus, you will never get elected again
[01:56:29.660 --> 01:56:35.660]  It had absolutely nothing to do with law
[01:56:35.660 --> 01:56:42.660]  It had everything to do with politics, and it's always political
[01:56:42.660 --> 01:56:45.660]  So, let's create a little
[01:56:45.660 --> 01:56:49.660]  We don't care if they actually prosecute these guys or not
[01:56:49.660 --> 01:56:55.660]  All we want is the prosecutor calling them saying, what in the heck is going on, I got some guy down here
[01:56:55.660 --> 01:57:02.660]  Jumping up and down, waving his arms because I won't present you to the grand jury and get you indicted
[01:57:02.660 --> 01:57:05.660]  You want to explain this?
[01:57:05.660 --> 01:57:08.660]  And consider yourself on the other end
[01:57:08.660 --> 01:57:18.660]  When I was in court today, the lawyer there, the guy I was with had already bargrieved her
[01:57:18.660 --> 01:57:21.660]  And bar grievance against a lawyer is a big deal
[01:57:21.660 --> 01:57:27.660]  And she was absolutely terrified that we were going to bargrieve her again
[01:57:27.660 --> 01:57:31.660]  And she had good reason to be terrified
[01:57:31.660 --> 01:57:37.660]  She mentioned to David the fact that he had bargrieved her
[01:57:37.660 --> 01:57:39.660]  We'll bargrieve her for that
[01:57:39.660 --> 01:57:41.660]  She's forbidden to mention
[01:57:41.660 --> 01:57:44.660]  That's another grievance, lady
[01:57:44.660 --> 01:57:47.660]  But she was so upset
[01:57:47.660 --> 01:57:51.660]  She just couldn't help herself
[01:57:51.660 --> 01:57:54.660]  That's what they do to us all the time
[01:57:54.660 --> 01:57:58.660]  Now we've got the tools to do it back to them
[01:57:58.660 --> 01:58:01.660]  Okay, Lon, do you have any more questions?
[01:58:01.660 --> 01:58:04.660]  Have we pretty well fed you with a fire hose?
[01:58:04.660 --> 01:58:06.660]  You have, you have
[01:58:06.660 --> 01:58:08.660]  I've got a lot of work to do
[01:58:08.660 --> 01:58:10.660]  Thank you very much
[01:58:10.660 --> 01:58:11.660]  Okay, thank you, Lon
[01:58:11.660 --> 01:58:14.660]  When we come back, we'll go to Dale in Florida
[01:58:14.660 --> 01:58:17.660]  And Dale, I'm sorry we lost you last night
[01:58:17.660 --> 01:58:20.660]  But we came back to you and you were talking to these other people
[01:58:20.660 --> 01:58:23.660]  And I couldn't get your attention so we had to move ahead
[01:58:23.660 --> 01:58:26.660]  We will pick you up when we come back on the other side
[01:58:26.660 --> 01:58:29.660]  And George, Doug, Mike, I see you there
[01:58:29.660 --> 01:58:31.660]  We will get to everybody
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