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[03:09.800 --> 03:39.280] Okay, the Bad Boys are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, the Bad Boys and Bad Goyles.
[03:39.280 --> 03:49.400] And this is Thursday, October the 10th, 2013.
[03:49.400 --> 03:55.280] And I'm going to, we'll have the phone lines open all night, we don't have a guest tonight.
[03:55.280 --> 04:01.920] And I'm going to start out talking about something that we've kind of been working on for quite
[04:01.920 --> 04:05.560] a while, but now I have a special opportunity.
[04:05.560 --> 04:12.280] I have someone in Fort Worth who has been working the foreclosure issue.
[04:12.280 --> 04:17.680] He goes to people who are being foreclosed on and who have abandoned their properties
[04:17.680 --> 04:29.960] and seeks a warranty deed from them and in an effort to preserve their credit.
[04:29.960 --> 04:36.800] And in the process, if they've already abandoned the property, then he'll rent out the property
[04:36.800 --> 04:39.800] and that pays him for adjudicating the issue.
[04:39.800 --> 04:50.520] Well, the courts are just getting absolutely outrageous, especially these JP courts.
[04:50.520 --> 04:59.720] And he came to me about the issue and I looked at it and this looks like an excellent way
[04:59.720 --> 05:06.200] of sending a message to all of the judges in Texas, especially the lower court judges,
[05:06.200 --> 05:16.600] that they are not so immune from the consequences of their behavior as they seem to think that
[05:16.600 --> 05:19.040] they are.
[05:19.040 --> 05:27.720] So we are setting up a RICO suit against, we'll probably do this in Tarrant County.
[05:27.720 --> 05:35.480] Tarrant County is a good place to do this because I'm very well known in Tarrant County.
[05:35.480 --> 05:37.120] I'm a celebrity in Tarrant County.
[05:37.120 --> 05:42.440] They used to have my picture hanging up in the grand jury room.
[05:42.440 --> 05:49.560] I'd like to think it was hanging up right next to the precedents, but probably not because
[05:49.560 --> 05:54.600] they had a sign under it that said, if you see this man called security.
[05:54.600 --> 06:02.640] And that's only because I filed about 50 criminal charges against judges and prosecutors and
[06:02.640 --> 06:06.840] police officers, but that was several years ago.
[06:06.840 --> 06:12.640] However, they still know who I am and they do know that I'm serious.
[06:12.640 --> 06:20.020] So now we're going to start taking them on directly.
[06:20.020 --> 06:29.400] We just had someone, David, go into a court the day before yesterday, not Tuesday, whatever
[06:29.400 --> 06:31.680] Tuesday was.
[06:31.680 --> 06:38.600] And he had a property that he had held an uncontested warranty deed on for almost two
[06:38.600 --> 06:41.280] years.
[06:41.280 --> 06:47.360] And the party on the other side told the judge that he was just a troublemaker and a shyster
[06:47.360 --> 06:55.920] and a fraudster and the judge refused to let him adjudicate his case.
[06:55.920 --> 07:02.840] Now that would have been bad enough, but the judge had the bailiff physically escort him
[07:02.840 --> 07:05.480] out of the courtroom.
[07:05.480 --> 07:16.760] Well, perhaps the judge forgot to read the book, but fortunately or unfortunately I didn't
[07:16.760 --> 07:20.360] forget to read the book.
[07:20.360 --> 07:25.360] He went to the court in order to petition the court for redress of grievance as he is
[07:25.360 --> 07:29.600] authorized to do under the Texas constitution.
[07:29.600 --> 07:34.000] And while we're talking about this, I will bring up the document I prepared this morning.
[07:34.000 --> 07:45.120] I want to kind of walk through this to kind of give an idea of how this thing works.
[07:45.120 --> 07:55.640] These judges seem to have forgotten who they are and what their position is.
[07:55.640 --> 08:01.120] They think they're there to do whatever they want to, apparently.
[08:01.120 --> 08:08.680] But he went to the court under article one, section three of the Texas constitution, which
[08:08.680 --> 08:22.000] grants equal rights to all free men when they form a social compact, have equal rights and
[08:22.000 --> 08:28.480] no man or set of men is entitled to exclusive, separate public emoluments or privileges,
[08:28.480 --> 08:36.040] but in consideration of public services, emoluments, that means payments.
[08:36.040 --> 08:52.880] And the judges seem to think that they are entitled to some special entitlement or privileges
[08:52.880 --> 08:56.240] that are not addressed in the constitution.
[08:56.240 --> 09:06.520] My founders went further by adding that under section three A, equality under the law, equality
[09:06.520 --> 09:12.520] under the law shall not be denied or abridged because of sex, race, color, creed, or national
[09:12.520 --> 09:13.520] origin.
[09:13.520 --> 09:18.440] This amendment is self-operative.
[09:18.440 --> 09:24.680] This person went to the court to adjudicate an issue and was thrown out.
[09:24.680 --> 09:31.880] In 19 of article one of the Texas constitution, deprivation of life, liberty or due course
[09:31.880 --> 09:38.960] of law, no citizen of this state shall be deprived of life, liberty, property, privileges
[09:38.960 --> 09:46.440] or immunities or in any manner disenfranchised, disfranchised except by the due course of
[09:46.440 --> 09:48.320] the laws of the land.
[09:48.320 --> 09:59.800] Well, here he went to the court for the purpose of petitioning the court for redress of grievance.
[09:59.800 --> 10:04.600] Article one, section 20, outlawry or transportation for offense.
[10:04.600 --> 10:08.120] No citizen shall be outlawed.
[10:08.120 --> 10:11.600] No person shall be transported out of the state for any offense committed within the
[10:11.600 --> 10:12.600] same.
[10:12.600 --> 10:21.000] Now, for the most part, when officials read this, they only read the second sentence where
[10:21.000 --> 10:25.360] they only understand the second sentence.
[10:25.360 --> 10:29.560] They seem not to understand the first sentence.
[10:29.560 --> 10:34.720] No citizen shall be outlawed.
[10:34.720 --> 10:44.200] But from the term in the title, section 20, outlawry or transportation for offense, outlawry
[10:44.200 --> 10:52.120] in the common law, if you annoyed the court, if you were summoned to court and you failed
[10:52.120 --> 10:59.680] to show up, if you were a vexatious litigant or for any number of reasons, apparently those
[10:59.680 --> 11:06.760] people who are trying to return us to the common law, they should understand this part
[11:06.760 --> 11:07.760] really important.
[11:07.760 --> 11:10.480] Under the common law, the judge could do whatever they want to.
[11:10.480 --> 11:16.160] And one of the things they could do is subject a person to outlawry.
[11:16.160 --> 11:24.040] And what outlawry means, it doesn't mean you are a criminal as the term has come to mean
[11:24.040 --> 11:32.800] in the common vernacular, outlawry or outlawing a person as referred to in the constitution
[11:32.800 --> 11:41.320] means to set the person outside the protection of the law.
[11:41.320 --> 11:43.360] That's outlawry.
[11:43.360 --> 11:50.280] Outlawry is forbidden in the federal constitution, it's forbidden in the Texas state constitution.
[11:50.280 --> 12:01.200] Article one, right up there at the front, section 20, no citizen shall be outlawed.
[12:01.200 --> 12:10.640] That is exactly what the justice of the peace did to David is he subjected him to outlawry
[12:10.640 --> 12:18.360] because he refused to allow him to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[12:18.360 --> 12:25.200] And then we go to section 27, the above allegation of outlawry is further supported by the right
[12:25.200 --> 12:28.760] to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[12:28.760 --> 12:34.080] The citizen shall have the right in a peaceable manner to assemble together for the common
[12:34.080 --> 12:40.240] good and apply to those invested with powers of government for redress of grievances or
[12:40.240 --> 12:45.560] other purposes by petition, address or remonstrance.
[12:45.560 --> 12:53.040] He petitioned the court for redress of grievance and instead of hearing his issue, they heard
[12:53.040 --> 12:59.320] an issue of someone who did not have a motion before the court.
[12:59.320 --> 13:04.760] I won't go into that, but there were some lawyers showed up and they didn't have anything
[13:04.760 --> 13:11.080] before the court and the judge addressed their issues because they were lawyers.
[13:11.080 --> 13:18.080] Not because they had filed anything in the court and put any issue before the court and
[13:18.080 --> 13:22.320] then the provisions of the bill was rights.
[13:22.320 --> 13:36.240] Now this judge has no power to deny anyone in these rights as section 29 is probably
[13:36.240 --> 13:49.720] my favorite, excuse me, my favorite statute or favorite to the section of the constitution.
[13:49.720 --> 13:55.760] Section 29 of article one of the Texas constitution, provisions of the bill of rights, exempted
[13:55.760 --> 14:01.640] from powers of government to forever remain in violet, that's the title.
[14:01.640 --> 14:08.600] To guard against transgressions of the high powers here in delegated, we declare that
[14:08.600 --> 14:15.960] everything in this bill of rights is exempted out of the general powers of government and
[14:15.960 --> 14:25.440] shall forever remain in violet and all laws contrary there to or to the following provisions
[14:25.440 --> 14:29.480] shall be void.
[14:29.480 --> 14:38.960] Now we really don't care what this judge wants to do.
[14:38.960 --> 14:46.520] We don't care what this judge approves of what the judge doesn't approve of.
[14:46.520 --> 14:55.500] We place judges in place in their positions for the purpose of determining the facts in
[14:55.500 --> 15:01.800] accordance with the rules of evidence and applying the law as it comes to them to the
[15:01.800 --> 15:04.120] facts indicates.
[15:04.120 --> 15:15.160] If they have an attitude, if they have a personal prejudice, they better leave that at home
[15:15.160 --> 15:27.120] because in this case the judge indicated that the judge knew who this person was, that apparently
[15:27.120 --> 15:37.040] the judge had talked to some other people about this individual outside the confines
[15:37.040 --> 15:39.760] of an official hearing.
[15:39.760 --> 15:47.200] The judge spoke to someone about issues that this person would be bringing before the court.
[15:47.200 --> 15:54.160] That's considered an ex parte communication that is forbidden by statute and it amounts
[15:54.160 --> 15:55.680] to a criminal conspiracy.
[15:55.680 --> 16:00.520] A person commits a conspiracy if with the intent that a felony be committed.
[16:00.520 --> 16:05.720] He agrees with one or more person that they are one or more of them engaging conduct that
[16:05.720 --> 16:07.360] would constitute an offense.
[16:07.360 --> 16:19.400] In this case, the judge apparently talked to someone else and decided in that conversation
[16:19.400 --> 16:26.360] to have this person removed from the courtroom by the bailiff.
[16:26.360 --> 16:31.440] Now I suppose for HAP that's a pretty normal thing to do.
[16:31.440 --> 16:35.080] I've had bailiffs escort me out a number of times.
[16:35.080 --> 16:43.920] When we come back from break, we will demonstrate why that is not a very normal thing to do
[16:43.920 --> 16:49.200] when you're dealing with a bailiff who is prominently displaying a deadly weapon.
[16:49.200 --> 16:56.280] Randy Kelton, Jeremy Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, I call in number 512-646-1984.
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[19:25.040 --> 19:32.180] I'm Mike Elton Debra Stevens of Rule of Law Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[19:32.180 --> 19:36.440] I'm going to go through this a little further.
[19:36.440 --> 19:44.360] Sometimes I think these judges really don't understand what they're getting themselves
[19:44.360 --> 19:46.600] in for.
[19:46.600 --> 19:49.240] They forget their place badly.
[19:49.240 --> 19:58.280] And because you and I and most of us haven't taken these guys on for their improprieties
[19:58.280 --> 20:04.000] that they wound up thinking they could pretty well do anything they want to.
[20:04.000 --> 20:11.000] And here, in order to, when this guy came before the court, these attorneys showed up
[20:11.000 --> 20:18.040] and he objected because there was nothing before the court that involved these attorneys.
[20:18.040 --> 20:21.240] So they had no standing to be before this court.
[20:21.240 --> 20:30.440] And the judge ordered the bailiff to remove David from the courtroom.
[20:30.440 --> 20:35.920] Now that didn't seem like such a really big deal.
[20:35.920 --> 20:40.440] But let's kind of walk down through the code and see what our legislators thought about
[20:40.440 --> 20:42.480] that.
[20:42.480 --> 20:48.120] The person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to
[20:48.120 --> 20:54.040] any person or property with the intent to cause a reaction of any type to his threat
[20:54.040 --> 20:59.920] by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies.
[20:59.920 --> 21:05.920] To place a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.
[21:05.920 --> 21:15.400] Now here we have a bailiff that orders this person to leave the courtroom and places his
[21:15.400 --> 21:20.040] hands on the person and pushes him toward the door.
[21:20.040 --> 21:24.160] I've had this done to me several times.
[21:24.160 --> 21:30.080] Simple assault, simple assault amounts to offensive touching, touching someone in a
[21:30.080 --> 21:36.440] way that an ordinary person, a reasonable person of ordinary prudence would find offensive.
[21:36.440 --> 21:43.440] And it is intended by the bailiff when he puts his hands on you to force you to leave
[21:43.440 --> 21:50.640] the courtroom that you find it offensive, that you react to it and object to it and
[21:50.640 --> 21:51.640] don't like it.
[21:51.640 --> 22:00.720] It's intended that you not like it so that he will give you reason to believe he intends
[22:00.720 --> 22:03.440] to enforce his will against you.
[22:03.440 --> 22:06.520] That's exactly what the bailiff did.
[22:06.520 --> 22:13.560] So a person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to
[22:13.560 --> 22:25.720] any person or property with intent to place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily
[22:25.720 --> 22:28.060] injury.
[22:28.060 --> 22:37.800] I think the judge and the bailiff forgot that the bailiff is wearing and prominently displaying
[22:37.800 --> 22:41.200] a deadly weapon.
[22:41.200 --> 22:51.920] When you strap on a deadly weapon and step out into the public, you strap on a very serious
[22:51.920 --> 22:54.920] responsibility.
[22:54.920 --> 23:00.720] And I suspect since these bailiffs carry that pistol every day, that they forget what a
[23:00.720 --> 23:04.120] big deal it is.
[23:04.120 --> 23:17.840] It's a deadly weapon and when a bailiff acts to exert his will, he does so with the threat
[23:17.840 --> 23:27.160] that any resistance to his will could ultimately involve him pulling and discharging that deadly
[23:27.160 --> 23:28.160] weapon.
[23:28.160 --> 23:33.400] Well, the statute I'm reading goes on to say a person commits an offense if he threatens
[23:33.400 --> 23:38.640] to commit any offense and by placing his hands on someone and ordering them to leave a public
[23:38.640 --> 23:54.360] building, that's an offense unless the person is committing, what do you call it, Deb?
[23:54.360 --> 23:55.360] Deb what's the term?
[23:55.360 --> 24:00.640] The only thing you can be arrested for without a warrant.
[24:00.640 --> 24:01.640] Disorderly conduct.
[24:01.640 --> 24:06.480] Unless you're committing disorderly conduct, you can't be ordered to leave a public building.
[24:06.480 --> 24:14.200] So in this instance, he placed his hand on the person in order to force him to deny him
[24:14.200 --> 24:23.480] access to a public building while the person was there acting in a legal capacity.
[24:23.480 --> 24:27.160] Person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involved in violence
[24:27.160 --> 24:33.960] to any person or property with intent to prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of the
[24:33.960 --> 24:41.960] building room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access.
[24:41.960 --> 24:48.640] In this case, it was a public courtroom, all courts shall be public.
[24:48.640 --> 24:51.400] So this was a public courtroom.
[24:51.400 --> 24:58.480] The bailiff, while prominently displaying a deadly weapon, committed simple assault by
[24:58.480 --> 25:07.760] placing his hands on the person for the purpose of interrupting the occupation or use of the
[25:07.760 --> 25:15.720] building room, place of assembly or place to which the public has access.
[25:15.720 --> 25:27.600] Under the Texas Penal Code 22.07, this is designated as a terroristic threat and it
[25:27.600 --> 25:30.800] gets worse.
[25:30.800 --> 25:38.280] He committed this criminal act while acting under color of an official authority.
[25:38.280 --> 25:45.080] The judge had no authority to deny him access to the courtroom.
[25:45.080 --> 25:53.440] Now he may have arguably be able to say that he could order the person to step down from
[25:53.440 --> 26:01.440] the bar back into the gallery, but he could not order him from the courtroom unless he
[26:01.440 --> 26:05.040] was committing disorderly conduct, which he was not.
[26:05.040 --> 26:09.920] I mean, it wasn't alleged that he was.
[26:09.920 --> 26:19.520] Let's go to 22.02 Texas Penal Code, aggravated assault, person commits an offense.
[26:19.520 --> 26:27.400] If the person commits assault, as defined in section 2201, and in section 2201, it defines
[26:27.400 --> 26:35.080] assault as offensive touching, using offensive language or threatening language or offensive
[26:35.080 --> 26:36.080] touching.
[26:36.080 --> 26:42.080] Here, the bailiff used threatening language and offensive touching, which is a violation
[26:42.080 --> 26:45.840] of 22.01, simple assault.
[26:45.840 --> 26:56.960] If the person commits simple assault and in the process uses or exhibits a deadly weapon
[26:56.960 --> 27:12.640] during the commission of the assault, an offense under this section is a felony of the second
[27:12.640 --> 27:20.640] degree, except that the offense is a felony of the first degree if, regardless of whether
[27:20.640 --> 27:27.920] the offense is committed under subsection A1 or A2, A1 causes bodily injury to another
[27:27.920 --> 27:34.680] including the person's spouse, A2 uses or exhibits a deadly weapon during the commission
[27:34.680 --> 27:35.680] of the assault.
[27:35.680 --> 27:38.240] In this case, it's A2.
[27:38.240 --> 27:44.840] Regardless of whether the offense is committed under section A1 or A2, the offense is committed
[27:44.840 --> 27:52.720] by a public servant acting under color of the servant's office or employment.
[27:52.720 --> 27:56.640] Color means pretense.
[27:56.640 --> 28:04.200] In this case, when the bailiff put his hand on that person for the purpose of interrupting
[28:04.200 --> 28:12.140] his access to a public building and did so while prominently displaying a deadly weapon,
[28:12.140 --> 28:17.600] he committed the criminal act of first degree felony aggravated assault.
[28:17.600 --> 28:27.720] However, the bailiff on being instructed by the magistrate or by the justice of the peace
[28:27.720 --> 28:34.320] to forcibly remove the person from the building acted in good faith through lives on competent
[28:34.320 --> 28:36.540] authority.
[28:36.540 --> 28:42.320] This leaves the magistrate as responde yet superior.
[28:42.320 --> 28:50.840] Now, acting in good faith reliance on competent authority is a defense to prosecution, it's
[28:50.840 --> 28:53.680] not a bar to prosecution.
[28:53.680 --> 29:04.240] So the bailiff is subject to the charge and potentially to an indictment, but if he brings
[29:04.240 --> 29:06.960] this, he would have an affirmative defense.
[29:06.960 --> 29:17.160] There's one more here, that's 2202B2A.
[29:17.160 --> 29:23.720] Now I did a Lexus search on B2A.
[29:23.720 --> 29:31.080] To put this in perspective, there was a guy in Austin, his name was Red Peace, and he
[29:31.080 --> 29:37.920] filed lots of lawsuits, and the judges hated him.
[29:37.920 --> 29:41.440] I did a search for Red Peace.
[29:41.440 --> 29:45.720] All of his lawsuits were really nitpicking, piddling stuff.
[29:45.720 --> 29:51.280] I got every single suit he ever filed.
[29:51.280 --> 29:54.280] I'll explain why that's important when we come back, Randy Kelton there for Stephen
[29:54.280 --> 30:02.640] through the radio, I'll call it number 512-646-1984, we'll be right.
[30:02.640 --> 30:07.440] A picture is worth a thousand words or maybe a few hundred calories in the cafeteria.
[30:07.440 --> 30:11.840] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back in just a moment with details on a
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[30:44.040 --> 30:49.240] Hold it right there kid, I need a picture of that pickle and a photo of that french
[30:49.240 --> 30:50.240] fry.
[30:50.240 --> 30:55.400] In five elementary schools in San Antonio, cafeteria cameras are snapping pics of kids'
[30:55.400 --> 30:56.400] lunches.
[30:56.400 --> 31:01.360] A barcode IDs each food tray that a camera identifies what the child selected.
[31:01.360 --> 31:05.160] At the end of the meal, another camera looks at the leftovers to see what actually got
[31:05.160 --> 31:06.160] eaten.
[31:06.160 --> 31:10.440] The result is a detailed nutritional profile on each student that the government wants
[31:10.440 --> 31:12.400] to get its hands on to reduce obesity.
[31:12.400 --> 31:17.200] So what is the price tag on this invasive plan to record every last french fry and green
[31:17.200 --> 31:18.200] pea?
[31:18.200 --> 31:20.840] It's no million bucks of our federal tax money.
[31:20.840 --> 31:22.640] No wonder the country's going broke.
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[33:23.120 --> 33:27.080] Okay we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Real Blood Radio, I'm going to pick up that
[33:27.080 --> 33:28.080] other later.
[33:28.080 --> 33:33.480] Now we have someone, Jamie in New Mexico, who apparently has the police surrounding
[33:33.480 --> 33:35.440] her house as we speak.
[33:35.440 --> 33:38.440] Jamie, can you tell us what's going on?
[33:38.440 --> 33:43.240] Well, they keep driving around, they're like, there's three of them and they're circling,
[33:43.240 --> 33:47.840] but I apologize, I've never heard your show, I don't know how this works, a friend of mine
[33:47.840 --> 33:52.720] gave me the number and told me to call, but at the beginning of August on the third day
[33:52.720 --> 33:59.520] of school, I'm a children's librarian and I went into work probably about ten minutes
[33:59.520 --> 34:07.440] early and I witnessed my boss having sexual relations in my children's story time area
[34:07.440 --> 34:13.680] with the maintenance man, both of them, he was in uniform, they were both on the clock
[34:13.680 --> 34:18.440] and ever since then my world has got turned upside down.
[34:18.440 --> 34:27.400] I went to my department head, she gave my boss, I don't really know, I think they got
[34:27.400 --> 34:32.240] warnings or something and then she was trying to take care of it from there, then my work
[34:32.240 --> 34:36.760] situation turned to where my boss was, it was kind of like the killing me with kindness
[34:36.760 --> 34:41.280] situation, it was just she was asking me what to do all day and she was never around before
[34:41.280 --> 34:46.600] because she was waiting to go meet with this man and I said my children's programs are
[34:46.600 --> 34:51.280] coming up, I need your help and so then it was all day, eight hours a day, well what
[34:51.280 --> 34:56.560] can I do, well what do you want me to do, and making me stop my job to give my boss
[34:56.560 --> 35:02.240] something to do for the day and so I wasn't able to get my own work done, so I once again
[35:02.240 --> 35:06.640] went to my department head and said this can't happen either and she said okay, chain of
[35:06.640 --> 35:12.480] command, go talk to your boss about it because that's how you have to do it and if it doesn't
[35:12.480 --> 35:18.040] get resolved from there, it comes to me again, so I went back to work from town hall, I live
[35:18.040 --> 35:24.920] in a very small town, Espancia, New Mexico and I had a bad feeling about the conversation
[35:24.920 --> 35:32.040] so I downloaded an app on my iPad and I recorded the conversation and at the end she, I mean
[35:32.040 --> 35:36.880] I say a cuss word and then you know it's the maintenance man and all that and it got heated
[35:36.880 --> 35:43.240] and she doesn't deny it but I do say it three times and she says exactly, I know, we need
[35:43.240 --> 35:47.760] to either get past it, we need to learn to accept me again or you need to find a new
[35:47.760 --> 35:52.120] job, so I went back to my department head and told her, I said that's not acceptable,
[35:52.120 --> 35:56.400] I don't need to find a new job because she's turning this work and it's just her and I
[35:56.400 --> 35:59.920] that work and they're really the only two employees and I said it's becoming horrible
[35:59.920 --> 36:04.440] to the point that I sent myself home a couple days with both her permission and my...
[36:04.440 --> 36:12.120] Okay, hold on, hold on, and you're thinking she's doing this because you saw her having
[36:12.120 --> 36:19.440] sex with someone else on, at work while they were on the company clock?
[36:19.440 --> 36:24.600] Yeah, because she got in trouble by the department head because when it all came down to it,
[36:24.600 --> 36:28.360] I said well you're never even here, like you're supposed to be here from eight to five but
[36:28.360 --> 36:33.720] you leave at one o'clock, two o'clock, so not only did my boss, my department head talk
[36:33.720 --> 36:38.120] to her about the situation that she just did but also that she's lying on the time card
[36:38.120 --> 36:41.000] and she needs to be there, so she doesn't want to be there.
[36:41.000 --> 36:47.040] Okay, hold on, is New Mexico like Texas, a right to work state?
[36:47.040 --> 36:48.520] I believe so.
[36:48.520 --> 37:00.000] Okay, well see in Texas, you can't have unions because an employer can essentially fire you
[37:00.000 --> 37:06.440] for anything he wants to do, I said like Texas, I should have said unlike Texas.
[37:06.440 --> 37:17.920] If you have unions in New Mexico where workers have specific rights, we have some limited
[37:17.920 --> 37:21.760] rights in Texas but not a great amount.
[37:21.760 --> 37:30.720] If you have any unions in New Mexico, then it will be a right to work state and you will
[37:30.720 --> 37:42.160] have some laws that are protecting you, however with that said, if you are being harassed
[37:42.160 --> 37:51.880] by your boss, trying to exercise those rights is very difficult because you have to exercise
[37:51.880 --> 37:57.320] those rights through your boss and your boss's boss and other bosses.
[37:57.320 --> 38:07.920] The problem with bosses is most of them do things that could get them fired and most
[38:07.920 --> 38:12.640] of them know stuff about each other, so they tend to protect each other.
[38:12.640 --> 38:13.640] Yeah.
[38:13.640 --> 38:23.200] So, okay, this is a show about rule of law, it's about how to use the law to protect yourself
[38:23.200 --> 38:30.280] but it's more a show about how to be smart.
[38:30.280 --> 38:35.280] Have you written up a statement about what you observed on that day?
[38:35.280 --> 38:42.280] I have, I'm in position of it, a friend of mine told me I need to write an affidavit
[38:42.280 --> 38:48.160] but nothing's been turned into my employer's except for I talked about it with the...
[38:48.160 --> 38:55.360] Okay, no, no, okay, here's my suggestion, is don't go to her, to whoever this person's
[38:55.360 --> 39:03.040] boss is, go to this, deal with this person, if she's your boss, handle it with her, go
[39:03.040 --> 39:08.920] to her with the affidavit and ask her, what am I supposed to do with this, am I supposed
[39:08.920 --> 39:15.480] to hand this in or should I put this in my pocket, are you going to keep screwing with
[39:15.480 --> 39:20.600] me or are you going to leave me alone and we go back to having ourselves a normal working
[39:20.600 --> 39:25.520] relationship or are we going to get in a fight here?
[39:25.520 --> 39:29.600] I would rather not get in a fight with you but if you want to fight, I got ammunition
[39:29.600 --> 39:38.960] you don't have so I would suggest rather, what we do is show you how to go after public
[39:38.960 --> 39:46.000] officials and I can do that, however, I'm more concerned if you're concerned about
[39:46.000 --> 39:58.120] keeping your job, the reality is is the law doesn't always help you so if you can satisfy
[39:58.120 --> 40:05.640] or eliminate this situation without getting drastic, that's a much better approach and
[40:05.640 --> 40:09.240] I know you were listening, if you were listening to what I was talking about earlier, that's
[40:09.240 --> 40:18.360] getting pretty drastic and while we can do those kind of things, I would be remiss if
[40:18.360 --> 40:25.520] I didn't suggest that we see if we can't find a way to ameliorate the situation without
[40:25.520 --> 40:39.400] having a big fight, so tell me what you want to achieve, say that again, I couldn't understand
[40:39.400 --> 40:53.120] you, they fired me today, they had the police pull me over and fire me, that changes everything,
[40:53.120 --> 41:00.240] yeah so after that happened, they made her go on a two week vacation and they left me
[41:00.240 --> 41:05.320] to cover all her hours in the library, well then she was coming into the library and going
[41:05.320 --> 41:10.840] through all of our personal things, work things, erasing emails, my department head said log
[41:10.840 --> 41:17.200] everything, change the password, she sent out texts to mothers of my preschool moms
[41:17.200 --> 41:22.080] saying I am not to be trusted, I am not who I am, I went to the mayor I said and then
[41:22.080 --> 41:27.160] well I told the mayor I said I don't feel comfortable being in that building responsible
[41:27.160 --> 41:32.080] for everything when she's doing that behind the scenes, they told me well if you leave
[41:32.080 --> 41:36.760] the library, we have to go in front of the town council and explain why the library is
[41:36.760 --> 41:42.960] closed, the mayor highly suggested that I didn't do that, so then they broke the open
[41:42.960 --> 41:50.560] meetings act and had a closed session about personnel but didn't label the department,
[41:50.560 --> 41:56.040] the next morning they walked out my town clerk who was my department head who was an at will
[41:56.040 --> 42:01.480] employee and gave her no reason and then I told the mayor I said well I still want to
[42:01.480 --> 42:06.280] put myself on unpaid leave because of all this and she said okay and she signed a piece
[42:06.280 --> 42:11.280] of paper and it says I Jamie Kers children's librarian put myself on unpaid leave due to
[42:11.280 --> 42:17.440] the hostile work environment, I've had my personal things, my work things, emails erased,
[42:17.440 --> 42:22.760] my books were sent out to mothers, etc. etc. the mayor signed it, the next thing I know
[42:22.760 --> 42:27.480] the mayor said that she was going to have it handled by Tuesday morning, I called Tuesday
[42:27.480 --> 42:31.800] afternoon she said it wouldn't be handled until Thursday, last night she...
[42:31.800 --> 42:41.400] Okay hold on, hold on, if a politician is talking, if their lips are moving, they're
[42:41.400 --> 42:51.440] lying, lying, yes. Okay you, okay there's a an understanding you need to develop, in
[42:51.440 --> 43:00.320] this context you are the master, the mayor is the servant, they tend to forget that,
[43:00.320 --> 43:09.960] the best way you can remind them is to sue them and if you've never filed a lawsuit it
[43:09.960 --> 43:17.400] sounds a whole lot harder than it is, to win a lawsuit, to adjudicate a lawsuit through
[43:17.400 --> 43:24.240] the courts that's kind of tough and it takes some knowledge and understanding but to file
[43:24.240 --> 43:30.080] a lawsuit, heck that's a piece of cake and let me give you a little good information
[43:30.080 --> 43:37.240] that the mayor does not want you to know and I will get to that when I come back on the
[43:37.240 --> 43:42.240] other side that music means we're about to go to break but I'll give you some information
[43:42.240 --> 43:47.680] on how to kick their behinds and there's not much they could do about it and maybe give
[43:47.680 --> 43:52.640] them a reason to make this situation right. This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, root
[43:52.640 --> 44:02.400] of our radio, our call in number 512-646-1984 we'll be right back.
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[46:27.520 --> 46:44.840] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. And on the break, I talked
[46:44.840 --> 46:58.560] to my co-host and she heard something that I missed. Jamie, did you say that the mayor
[46:58.560 --> 47:06.400] or the city or whoever had the police pull you over on your way to work and fire you?
[47:06.400 --> 47:12.840] I was on my way to my daughter's parent teacher conference. The mayor showed up last night
[47:12.840 --> 47:18.280] and said, okay, this is how it gets down. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't get too
[47:18.280 --> 47:29.400] involved and lead me off. Did a police officer turn on his lights and declare an emergency
[47:29.400 --> 47:37.640] and have you stop and tell you that you were fired? Yes, and I recorded the whole thing.
[47:37.640 --> 47:44.840] Who was that police officer? My husband has his name. I don't know all the cops, but
[47:44.840 --> 47:54.120] I have his name. Yes, go ahead. I'm sorry. Okay. There's a court case called, you know,
[47:54.120 --> 48:03.160] I would say this cop is screwed. And the reason I would say he's screwed is a Supreme Court
[48:03.160 --> 48:11.760] case called Screws VUS. If a public official violates the ruling of this court and he be
[48:11.760 --> 48:18.000] saying, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does. This goes to a public official
[48:18.000 --> 48:25.360] exerting or purporting to exert an authority he doesn't expressly have. Now under the federal
[48:25.360 --> 48:35.240] code, have you ever heard of the Ku Klux Klan Act? No. Okay. This was passed in 1871 during
[48:35.240 --> 48:41.880] the reconstruction because the police and mayors and other public officials in the South
[48:41.880 --> 48:48.920] were left in place in order to avoid total anarchy. But they were given new instructions
[48:48.920 --> 48:54.560] by these Yankee carpet baggers. And for the most part, these public officials told these
[48:54.560 --> 48:59.120] Yankee carpet baggers to go scratch. They were going to do what they want to. So the
[48:59.120 --> 49:08.640] Ku Klux Klan Act was passed. You've probably heard of 42 U.S. Code 1983. That's the portion
[49:08.640 --> 49:15.080] of the Ku Klux Klan Act that authorizes you to sue a public official if they exert a purport
[49:15.080 --> 49:21.560] to exert an authority they do not expressly have. But that's the second part of the Ku
[49:21.560 --> 49:29.680] Klux Klan Act. The first part of the Ku Klux Klan Act has been codified into law as 18
[49:29.680 --> 49:40.960] U.S. Code 242. Everybody should have that one memorized. It is effectively a catchall.
[49:40.960 --> 49:48.640] If a public official acting under color of an official authority and color in this context
[49:48.640 --> 49:56.080] means pretense, if a public official acting under color of an official authority exerts
[49:56.080 --> 50:04.000] or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have and in the process denies
[50:04.000 --> 50:12.120] the citizen in the full free access to her enjoyment right, that's a federal crime. And
[50:12.120 --> 50:22.600] every state has a statute that reflects that particular issue. If this police officer turned
[50:22.600 --> 50:33.180] on his lights declaring an emergency and you failed to pull over, do you think he would
[50:33.180 --> 50:47.480] have chased you and shot at you? He placed your life in imminent jeopardy but he had
[50:47.480 --> 50:57.920] no authority to do so. A police officer may only pull you over if he has personally witnessed
[50:57.920 --> 51:06.120] you committing a crime or he has knowledge that warrant exists for your arrest. Which
[51:06.120 --> 51:14.160] one of those reasons did he have? He did. He said, I'm not pulling you over for a traffic
[51:14.160 --> 51:19.880] violation. I'm pulling you over to hand you your termination papers. And I said, what?
[51:19.880 --> 51:31.040] That is not an authority that he has and he has to know that. That should get, okay, this
[51:31.040 --> 51:40.840] is the way we like to do it. This police officer just does some dumb chump who was instructed
[51:40.840 --> 51:48.240] by his chief of police, who was instructed by the mayor to pull this crap. I can't believe
[51:48.240 --> 51:59.440] they did something this stupid. They had a police officer declare an emergency and arrest
[51:59.440 --> 52:09.560] your freedom of movement. They had one of their police officers arrest you so that the
[52:09.560 --> 52:20.760] police officer could fire you. Yeah. Was the police officer wearing a pistol? Well, yeah,
[52:20.760 --> 52:30.600] they always do. Did you have reason to believe that that pistol was loaded? They're always
[52:30.600 --> 52:36.720] loaded. Did you have reason to believe that if you had left the scene, he was prepared
[52:36.720 --> 52:42.520] to use that pistol? Well, I'm sure because I was getting pulled over there were two cops
[52:42.520 --> 52:53.320] behind me with lights on. Okay. Did you hear the statute that I was reading earlier? Yes.
[52:53.320 --> 53:02.280] You need to look into Mexico law for aggravated assault. Aggravated assault is aggravated assault
[53:02.280 --> 53:10.080] but it makes no difference who does it. In Texas, what that officer did would be construed
[53:10.080 --> 53:23.680] as first degree felony aggravated assault, 22 life. That is really a big deal. This police
[53:23.680 --> 53:32.960] officer wears that gun all day every day and he forgets how incredibly dangerous that thing
[53:32.960 --> 53:42.480] is. I'm a combat veteran. When one of these guys approach me wearing a deadly weapon,
[53:42.480 --> 53:50.240] for me that is a really, really big deal. I have spent too much time on the sharp end
[53:50.240 --> 53:59.840] of those things and I have very vivid memories of what those things do to human beings. That
[53:59.840 --> 54:04.520] is an incredibly big deal and that police officer needs to understand how big a deal
[54:04.520 --> 54:13.240] that is. And I didn't know because they came to my house last night to call too. For what
[54:13.240 --> 54:20.720] purpose? The mayor called and first she said she wanted a meeting that evening and I said
[54:20.720 --> 54:25.480] I'm busy. We agreed on meeting on Tuesday. She called right back and she said now I'm
[54:25.480 --> 54:28.760] still an employee at this time last night. She called back and said she needed the key
[54:28.760 --> 54:33.120] to the library. I asked a couple of questions and I said I need to call you back in five
[54:33.120 --> 54:37.880] minutes. And she said no, I will come to your house or you'll go to the library. I need
[54:37.880 --> 54:42.720] the key. I said you call me on my personal time. I will call you back in five minutes.
[54:42.720 --> 54:47.800] I needed to see if my husband can go with me to the library. So I had a witness and
[54:47.800 --> 54:52.200] get a babysitter for my daughter. So she didn't have to go. Three minutes later, the police
[54:52.200 --> 54:56.160] and the mayor show up at my house wanting the key.
[54:56.160 --> 54:58.720] Whoa. Yes. Okay.
[54:58.720 --> 55:01.800] It's all on videotape.
[55:01.800 --> 55:05.400] Did they require you to go with him?
[55:05.400 --> 55:07.680] No.
[55:07.680 --> 55:11.000] Did they request that you go with him?
[55:11.000 --> 55:13.480] No.
[55:13.480 --> 55:16.200] Why did they show up at your house?
[55:16.200 --> 55:20.120] Because she wanted the key to the library. And then I asked three times, I said, but
[55:20.120 --> 55:25.120] I am still an employee. And she said, oh, of course, of course. And I said, okay, well,
[55:25.120 --> 55:28.080] I'm going to give you the key, but I want to go over to the library to get my personal
[55:28.080 --> 55:33.040] belongings out of it so they won't have a key. And they said, no, you can't. You need
[55:33.040 --> 55:36.560] to go during business hours. And the only thing I said, I said, so you can come get
[55:36.560 --> 55:41.320] it. Because I was trying to get the key off the hearing the whole time. And I said, well,
[55:41.320 --> 55:45.440] I don't understand why you get to come to my house. It was almost 6 p.m. and get this
[55:45.440 --> 55:50.240] key. But then we can't go over to the library so I can get my personal belongings. And she
[55:50.240 --> 55:54.320] said, well, I'm busy. You need to do that tomorrow during business hours. So I gave
[55:54.320 --> 55:57.720] him the key. I said, once again, I said, for the record, I am still an employee. And she
[55:57.720 --> 56:07.960] said, yes. And then today, I got the, I got pulled over and got the termination paperwork.
[56:07.960 --> 56:19.400] Okay. You need to file first degree felony. I'm not sure what the statute is in New Mexico,
[56:19.400 --> 56:27.040] but it's going to be close. That's aggravated assault. Now, aggravated assaults in Texas
[56:27.040 --> 56:34.200] normally is a class B misdemeanor. Okay. A class, I mean, I'm sorry, a second degree
[56:34.200 --> 56:44.840] felony. You have first, second and third degree felonies. If in Texas, if someone commits
[56:44.840 --> 56:51.440] aggravated assault, it's a second degree felony. If they do commit aggravated assault while
[56:51.440 --> 56:57.840] displaying a deadly weapon, acting under color of an official authority, it's a first degree.
[56:57.840 --> 57:04.360] That's as high as it gets next to capital murder. So you need to look at New Mexico
[57:04.360 --> 57:12.920] penal code, look under aggravated assault, charge the officer and the mayor with aggravated
[57:12.920 --> 57:27.480] assault. See how they like that one. Now, also send the mayor a tort letter, notify
[57:27.480 --> 57:40.800] them that you were subjected to violation of due process and denied employment. And
[57:40.800 --> 57:46.080] notify them, you know, how much would you make at that job for the next two years? I'm
[57:46.080 --> 57:51.680] not asking that's rhetorical. Calculate how much you would make for the next two years
[57:51.680 --> 58:00.280] and claim that as harm and claim it in triplicate. Tell them, make me wholly be sued. I'll explain
[58:00.280 --> 58:04.480] that in a little more detail when we come back. But the only thing they pay attention
[58:04.480 --> 58:11.960] to is a lawsuit. So we'll talk about filing criminal charges against the mayor and the
[58:11.960 --> 58:19.520] police officer and sending a tort letter to the mayor's office. That's when they figure
[58:19.520 --> 58:26.360] out you mean business. And then things are likely to change. Hang on. This is Randy Kelton,
[58:26.360 --> 58:33.640] Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio, our call in number 512-646-1984. We're going to our
[58:33.640 --> 58:37.200] top of the hour break. So it'll be two or three minutes before we come back. When we
[58:37.200 --> 58:43.000] come back, we will finish up with Jamie. This is getting interesting. And then we'll be
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[01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:28.320] Okay, we are back. Brandy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Real Raw Radio. We're talking to Jamie in
[01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:41.920] New Mexico. Jamie, you are not knowledgeable enough to be able to adjudicate a lawsuit
[01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:53.320] against the mayor or the city. However, that is not a problem. If you send them a tort
[01:03:53.320 --> 01:04:08.680] letter, notify them that you have been harmed. You've been wrongly terminated as retaliation
[01:04:08.680 --> 01:04:16.120] in order to keep you from reporting improprieties by other public officials and that you were
[01:04:16.120 --> 01:04:27.480] subjected to a false arrest by a police officer at constructive gunpoint in order to facilitate
[01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:39.520] this unlawful termination and maintain that you have a personal investment in this employment
[01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:47.040] and they denied you in your right to gainful employment and notify them that you have been
[01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:55.880] harmed in an amount equal to two years of salary demand that they make you hold a pursuit.
[01:04:55.880 --> 01:05:02.240] Now they'll get that tort letter and the tort letter is not anything special. It's just
[01:05:02.240 --> 01:05:08.840] a letter saying you have harmed me and most jurisdictions around the country require that
[01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:16.840] before you sue a public official, you must give them notice and opportunity to cure and
[01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:22.400] that's what a tort letter is. It's a notice that you have been harmed, a notice of the
[01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:28.960] amount of harm they have caused you and a demand that they make you hold. There are
[01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:37.400] lawyers who recognize this as a tort letter and if in that tort letter you claim wrongful
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:45.880] acts that look ugly, you're likely to get them to come to you and make you an offer
[01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:54.800] to keep you from creating politics. Okay, here's the bad news. You will never win your
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:06:05.080] case because you have the law and the facts on your side. I know what they taught in school
[01:06:05.080 --> 01:06:12.240] but it's just not that way now. It never has been that way since we've had judges
[01:06:12.240 --> 01:06:20.800] for the last 6,000 years. You will only win your case if you have the politics on your
[01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:29.240] side. In school they never tell you that part. They only want you to think about the side
[01:06:29.240 --> 01:06:35.840] of the law and the facts and want you to believe that we live in a land of law where the law
[01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:49.000] rules it does no such thing. Everything is political and all politics is local. So we
[01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:56.960] deal primarily in how do we create a little local politics. Those complaints I was talking
[01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:05.440] about earlier about filing against this JP, I don't want to get that JP indicted. Who
[01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:12.240] cares about getting him indicted? I want to get the JP's attention. I want to scare the
[01:07:12.240 --> 01:07:21.240] bejesus out of the JP. So the next time we come in the court we don't have any problems.
[01:07:21.240 --> 01:07:26.480] When you jump up and down and wave your arms and write this indignation, file your tort
[01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:32.440] letter and then go to the chief of police and present him with criminal complaints against
[01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:42.400] his officer for committing false arrest of you for an illegal purpose of threatening
[01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:53.200] you with a deadly weapon, arresting your freedom of movement. That's the definition of arrest.
[01:07:53.200 --> 01:08:01.480] That's false arrest while displaying a deadly weapon. Just make it sound as bad as you can.
[01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:08.600] Now this police officer is going to be real unhappy. Go in and file a professional conduct
[01:08:08.600 --> 01:08:15.040] complaint against the police officer. Now the police officer is probably innocent to
[01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:20.640] driven snow in this whole thing. He got a call from the chief and the chief told him
[01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:25.720] the mayor wants this woman stopped and wants you to give her these termination paperwork.
[01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:32.920] And he didn't know any better. So he goes and does what he was told to do. And now all
[01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:39.760] of a sudden you're landing on him like a ton of bricks. It's always best to hammer the
[01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:46.840] innocent party because he's going to scream bloody murder. Hey, look what you guys got
[01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:53.000] me into. You gotta do something. Get this woman off my case. And that's when you start
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:59.800] getting leverage. And when you send the tort letter to the city and if you send the tort
[01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:09.080] letter and make criminal accusations against the mayor, it's all politics and everything's
[01:09:09.080 --> 01:09:14.160] political. But when you file criminal charges, the mayor is going to say, oh, those criminal
[01:09:14.160 --> 01:09:23.280] charges, why they're frivolous. They're not valid or anything like that. Problem is, I
[01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:29.600] have this friend of mine who has four laws and the first law is everything's political.
[01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:40.120] Second law, everything, perception is everything. When you start filing criminal charges against
[01:09:40.120 --> 01:09:47.560] the mayor, that is not going to look good. Now he'll claim that those charges are frivolous,
[01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:53.280] but it won't make any difference. He can expect next time he runs for office, you're going
[01:09:53.280 --> 01:09:58.400] to take those complaints and give them to his opponent and his opponent's going to wave
[01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:03.320] them in front of the public and say, this is what your mayor does. Commits these criminal
[01:10:03.320 --> 01:10:10.280] acts while in office, blah, blah, blah, and create lots of political pressure against
[01:10:10.280 --> 01:10:15.880] the mayor. It's all political. Does this make sense where we're going?
[01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:22.200] It does. It just kind of doesn't relate so much because she was the mayor pro tem. She's
[01:10:22.200 --> 01:10:29.320] only just become the mayor because the other mayor resigned.
[01:10:29.320 --> 01:10:39.240] That's even better. She's the mayor pro tem. She probably doesn't have a clue. She got
[01:10:39.240 --> 01:10:44.080] thrown into this position and now all of a sudden you're trying to get her arrested.
[01:10:44.080 --> 01:10:55.080] She is going to be terrified. This is, it's all about putting pressure on them. The mayor
[01:10:55.080 --> 01:11:01.200] pro tem is much better. Good chance if she's mayor pro tem, she's going to want to run
[01:11:01.200 --> 01:11:06.920] for mayor next time. Question, why did the mayor resign?
[01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:07.920] The other one? Yes.
[01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:15.920] There's all sorts of rumors about it, but I didn't really get through into it.
[01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:23.000] That's even better. There's already a lot of political turmoil going on anyway. The
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:28.960] mayor resigns, they appoint a mayor pro tem, and you go after the mayor pro tem criminally.
[01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:39.760] They are not going to like this. Especially since this involves sexual misconduct. You
[01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:49.200] really need to do your homework. Weed the penal code. It's not that big. Penal codes
[01:11:49.200 --> 01:11:55.360] are not near as big as you think. Most, it's outlined. Most of it's white space. You can
[01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:59.040] go through it pretty quick. There are a lot of the codes that are not going to have anything
[01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:04.440] to do with this. Look at criminal conspiracy right in the front, culpability, criminal
[01:12:04.440 --> 01:12:14.760] conspiracy. This smacks of criminal conspiracy. Assault, and then look into the employment
[01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:24.400] laws for New Mexico. The problem a public official has is if a public official exerts
[01:12:24.400 --> 01:12:31.800] or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have, or fails to perform a
[01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:37.320] duty he is required to perform, and in the process denies a citizen full of free access
[01:12:37.320 --> 01:12:45.320] to enjoyment of a right. That's a crime in every state. It's not a civil suit. That's
[01:12:45.320 --> 01:12:52.160] a crime. Then you start making noises about filing your criminal complaints with the grand
[01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:58.280] jury. You probably have to listen to our show a little more to get a better idea about this,
[01:12:58.280 --> 01:13:06.000] but we have a whole routine we use on the prosecuting attorney. We want to really P.O.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:12.360] the prosecuting attorney. You go to the police department with your complaints, and the police
[01:13:12.360 --> 01:13:18.560] department is going to refuse to do anything. The first thing you ought to understand in
[01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:26.320] order to make this work, never ask anybody to do anything, any public official, to do
[01:13:26.320 --> 01:13:35.720] anything you actually want them to do. Because they're never going to. And if you never
[01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:41.520] ask them to do anything you actually want them to do, very quickly they'll figure that
[01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:50.280] out. I went to photograph a public document at the clerk's office in Tarrant County, Texas,
[01:13:50.280 --> 01:13:54.920] in Fort Worth. The clerk said, I can't let you photograph that. You can't stop me. Well,
[01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:58.640] I guess I can. You can't photograph that. I said, well, show me the rule, regulation,
[01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:02.640] law, or whatever it is that gives you the right to prevent me from photographing this
[01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:10.600] document. Well, I don't have to. Oh, okay. Wait right there. Don't go anywhere. Somebody's
[01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:15.280] going to want to talk to you. I took out my phone, dial 9-1-1, asked them to send the
[01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:19.160] sheriff's deputy down to arrest this clerk. I said, hey, what's your name? He wouldn't
[01:14:19.160 --> 01:14:24.240] tell me. I need you to come down here and arrest Mr. I'm not going to tell you my name
[01:14:24.240 --> 01:14:33.240] clerk. He's standing there listening to me, talking to the 9-1-1 operator, asking them
[01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:40.320] to send the sheriff's deputy to arrest Mr. I'm not going to tell you my name clerk. Well,
[01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:46.200] the police show up. They refuse to take a complaint. I said, what'd they send you guys
[01:14:46.200 --> 01:14:55.280] for? You're worthless. You're dismissed. You can go beat it. They leave and they're uncomfortable
[01:14:55.280 --> 01:15:00.920] because I sent them packing too quickly. I didn't argue with them and they're worried
[01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:05.720] about it. So about 10 minutes later, they come back with their sergeant and the sergeant
[01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:13.000] comes by and he says, is there a problem here? No problem. Well, Mr. Kelton, there seemed
[01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:19.040] to be a difficulty earlier. I would like to see if I could sort this out. You can't sort
[01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:25.880] this out, Sergeant. That bell has already been rung and you can't unring it. I will
[01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:33.600] take up my issues with the district attorney. You are dismissed. He's still there looking
[01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:39.280] at me like I just slapped him because I didn't argue with him. I didn't tell him what my
[01:15:39.280 --> 01:15:47.640] rights were. I didn't tell him what his duty was. And the guy's thinking, this SOB, he
[01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:54.600] set us up for that. Yeah, that's right. I did, Bubba. So beat it. And I went straight
[01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:58.480] to the district attorney, filed criminal charges against him. Now, when the district attorney
[01:15:58.480 --> 01:16:03.000] fails to act, I'm going to file criminal charges against the district attorney with a local
[01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:08.360] judge. When that judge doesn't act, I'm going to file criminal charges against the judge.
[01:16:08.360 --> 01:16:16.600] And everybody's going to be PO'ed at this clerk. You see how that works? When you file
[01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:22.520] with the police and they refuse to take your complaint, oh goody, now you file against
[01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:28.120] them with the prosecutor and he'll refuse to act. Now you file against the prosecutor
[01:16:28.120 --> 01:16:34.400] and he is going to be real unhappy about that. But they can't say anything to you about it.
[01:16:34.400 --> 01:16:41.400] One word to you would be tampering with a witness, obstruction of justice, felony retaliation.
[01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:46.600] It gets real deep, real fast when you use the law against them. Hang on, Randy Kelton,
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[01:19:08.240 --> 01:19:36.600] Ain't gonna blame me, don't blame me, ain't gonna fool me with that same old shit again.
[01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:41.360] I was blindsided, but now I can see your back.
[01:19:41.360 --> 01:19:48.880] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my ass, ain't gonna fool me with that
[01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:52.880] same old trick again.
[01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.120] Okay, we are back.
[01:19:56.120 --> 01:19:59.320] Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:59.320 --> 01:20:02.880] And it's good I'm talking to a librarian.
[01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:06.040] Librarians get to know more than most.
[01:20:06.040 --> 01:20:10.560] And this would be good information.
[01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:14.040] We are realists.
[01:20:14.040 --> 01:20:17.640] We're not some kind of starry-eyed romantics.
[01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.720] We understand how the real world works.
[01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:26.660] And in the real world, it's all about politics and how to create politics.
[01:20:26.660 --> 01:20:32.640] Now there is one danger in doing all of this.
[01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:38.880] It can become way too much fun.
[01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:43.400] So you do have to be careful because we have people calling from all over the country telling
[01:20:43.400 --> 01:20:47.040] us about going in and kicking their behinds.
[01:20:47.040 --> 01:20:50.560] And I keep telling them, man, you are having way too much fun with this.
[01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:53.480] And they say, yes, I am.
[01:20:53.480 --> 01:20:58.320] You know, you're used to these guys coming after you.
[01:20:58.320 --> 01:21:02.560] And it's just our job.
[01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.960] Do you have children?
[01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:17.060] When your children have grown and they come to you and say, mom, why is the government
[01:21:17.060 --> 01:21:20.720] so out of control?
[01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:28.320] What did you do to give me a government in a better condition than when you got it?
[01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:38.000] What are you going to tell them?
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:45.080] We're going to talk to you about how to be able to tell them that you did all you could
[01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:48.680] to give them a system in better condition than you got it.
[01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:54.800] And I spent 30, I guess about 35 years now researching this subject.
[01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:59.040] And I do this from an engineer's perspective.
[01:21:59.040 --> 01:22:03.760] As an engineer, I'm a pragmatist, I'm interested in what works.
[01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:15.440] And what I found that works is, is you approach them as a sovereign, not as a citizen.
[01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:22.800] Okay, I've muted you for the moment, Jamie, you've got some tremendous background noise.
[01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:28.960] I'm an old combat veteran, I only got one ear drum and some of that noise I think just
[01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:30.760] blew out that one.
[01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.800] Okay, I'll unmute you in a minute.
[01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:42.000] But if we're to take any kind of control back of this government, we need to understand
[01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:46.160] the difference between a citizen and a sovereign.
[01:22:46.160 --> 01:22:50.600] I know there's a lot of propaganda about what a sovereign is.
[01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:53.640] So I don't like to use that term so much.
[01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.440] I prefer the term the master.
[01:22:56.440 --> 01:23:03.100] A couple years, a few years back, I was talking to a prosecuting attorney and he had himself
[01:23:03.100 --> 01:23:06.040] a pretty smart mouth and attitude.
[01:23:06.040 --> 01:23:11.580] And I told him, I said, I think you forget who you are, you are a public servant.
[01:23:11.580 --> 01:23:14.560] And he said, yes, Ms. Cowden, I'm a public servant.
[01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:18.880] I said, you are the servant and I tap myself in the chest.
[01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:24.120] I am the master and you are not to forget it.
[01:23:24.120 --> 01:23:29.360] He forgot it two weeks later, he was working for an oil company.
[01:23:29.360 --> 01:23:33.960] That's because he interfered with a grand jury who was considering criminal complaints
[01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.660] against his boss.
[01:23:36.660 --> 01:23:41.960] But you are not the citizen, a citizen is a subject.
[01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:43.880] You are not the subject.
[01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:44.880] You are the master.
[01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.320] And all of these officials are your public servants.
[01:23:49.320 --> 01:23:54.240] And they're not to forget that they're servants, it's your job to remind them.
[01:23:54.240 --> 01:23:58.120] And it is so much fun to remind them.
[01:23:58.120 --> 01:24:04.600] First rule, never give legal advice.
[01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:08.800] You're not a lawyer, you're certainly not their lawyer.
[01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:13.860] And if they need legal advice, go see the prosecuting attorney, I'm sure he'll give
[01:24:13.860 --> 01:24:20.840] you good legal advice, unless of course I'm trying to, it's him I'm trying to get arrested.
[01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:27.140] Do your research, read the law, hold them to it.
[01:24:27.140 --> 01:24:35.080] You go in and ask a public official to do what he is required to do and hope he doesn't
[01:24:35.080 --> 01:24:37.080] do it.
[01:24:37.080 --> 01:24:43.000] For instance, this police officer pulls you over, go to his boss and ask his boss to take
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:51.600] a verified criminal affidavit from you, accusing his officer of false arrest.
[01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:57.760] And the chief is going to refuse, he's going to say, we ordered him to do that, blah, blah,
[01:24:57.760 --> 01:24:58.760] blah.
[01:24:58.760 --> 01:24:59.760] Oh, you ordered him to do that?
[01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:00.760] Oh, okay.
[01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:01.760] Thank you.
[01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:02.760] Good day.
[01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:10.800] As soon as the official does something that constitutes a violation, you don't have anything
[01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.160] to do with him anymore, then you just walk away.
[01:25:14.160 --> 01:25:19.840] Like these officers, when they said they weren't going to take a voluntary statement from me,
[01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:25.460] you're done, you guys are out of here, beat it, I don't talk to them anymore.
[01:25:25.460 --> 01:25:30.840] They try to talk to me, they can't talk to me because they're perpetrators, I will be
[01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:37.240] filing criminal complaints against them, if they talk to me, it will be construed as tampering
[01:25:37.240 --> 01:25:41.800] with a witness obstruction of justice, so beat it.
[01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:48.440] Then you go to the mayor and file criminal charges against the chief of police and the
[01:25:48.440 --> 01:25:51.880] mayor as a magistrate is authorized to take the complaints.
[01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:55.720] If you have a mayor that's a mayor pro tem, she probably doesn't have clues to what her
[01:25:55.720 --> 01:26:00.320] authority is and get her to refuse.
[01:26:00.320 --> 01:26:05.880] Then you take criminal charges against the mayor for official misconduct, failing to
[01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:12.520] perform a duty she's required to perform because mayors are magistrates.
[01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:17.200] Magistrates are authorized, the purpose of magistrates to take criminal complaints, take
[01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:23.320] criminal complaint against the mayor to the district attorney, the prosecuting attorney
[01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:29.080] and he will refuse to take the complaint, at least you hope he does.
[01:26:29.080 --> 01:26:33.600] Then you take criminal complaint against the district attorney to the highest judge you
[01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:40.280] can find, I sent 35 criminal complaints to the chief justice of the supreme court in
[01:26:40.280 --> 01:26:46.000] Texas, he refused to act on them, went straight to the district attorney with criminal charges
[01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:52.840] against him, 35 criminal complaints against the chief justice of the supreme.
[01:26:52.840 --> 01:27:01.360] You got to know he's not happy about that, this creates politics, where is that noise
[01:27:01.360 --> 01:27:03.720] coming from?
[01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:12.160] Anyway, this creates political pressure, all of these people who are getting hammered and
[01:27:12.160 --> 01:27:17.880] all they did is what they do all the time, they're going to be really upset at the one
[01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:22.760] that started this and that's how you create your political pressure.
[01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:31.520] Now I want to bring in my co-host Debbie Stevens, she has filed civil actions in New Mexico
[01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:35.200] and she wanted to talk about limitations and such, Debbie are you there?
[01:27:35.200 --> 01:27:43.720] Well yes I am, I haven't filed civil actions in state court in New Mexico but it was a
[01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:51.680] federal suit but it was involving a situation that happened in New Mexico and involving
[01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:59.200] the federal tort claims act and to sue federal servants, federal public servants under the
[01:27:59.200 --> 01:28:05.720] federal tort claims act you have to show that certain things apply under the state law of
[01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:13.400] whichever state that the alleged violation was committed in and you have to show that
[01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:18.960] if it had been a state employee committing these certain violations that they would be
[01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:26.880] liable under state law and you also have to abide by statute of limitations of those same
[01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.360] state laws.
[01:28:28.360 --> 01:28:34.920] And so basically I just wanted to come in with a reminder for Jamie that basically what
[01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:41.680] Randy is setting up here is what we call the tar baby on the criminal side, hold on Randy
[01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:45.640] you've got something going on on your, speaking of background noise, you've got some stuff
[01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:46.640] going on in your end now.
[01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:47.640] My bad, forgot to mute.
[01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:55.440] Okay anyways there, excuse me let me go back to what I was saying, okay yeah you have to
[01:28:55.440 --> 01:29:01.440] show that statute, you have to abide by the statute of limitations of certain, of the
[01:29:01.440 --> 01:29:07.080] same state laws as if you were going to sue a state actor under the state laws and so
[01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:13.280] oh yeah the tar baby and so basically what Randy is describing is a set up for what we
[01:29:13.280 --> 01:29:18.120] call the tar baby on the criminal side so that you can file criminal complaints against
[01:29:18.120 --> 01:29:24.160] all these people, against all these rogues and it's kind of what we call a meat tenderizer
[01:29:24.160 --> 01:29:32.280] and it basically we soften them up so that we can pitch them a tort letter and basically
[01:29:32.280 --> 01:29:37.480] soften them up for the deal, that's kind of what the prosecutor does to defendants in
[01:29:37.480 --> 01:29:40.440] a criminal case, soften them up for the deal.
[01:29:40.440 --> 01:29:47.320] And so the tort, with a tort letter that you will send at some point later, well I'll go
[01:29:47.320 --> 01:29:51.400] over this more on the other side, we'll be right back folks, this is the rule of law
[01:29:51.400 --> 01:30:01.600] Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig and Deborah Stevens, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:53.520 --> 01:34:17.840] Okay, folks, we are back.
[01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:24.440] This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig and Debra Stevens and we are speaking
[01:34:24.440 --> 01:34:30.880] with Jamie in New Mexico and I was going to some issues concerning filing civil lawsuit
[01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:39.380] and tort letters and such and Jamie and for everyone else out there, this show and every
[01:34:39.380 --> 01:34:44.360] show on the Logos Radio Network is archived.
[01:34:44.360 --> 01:34:58.400] We have all the shows are on the archive link when you go to LogosRadioNetwork.com, just
[01:34:58.400 --> 01:34:59.760] click on the archive link.
[01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:04.600] I try to post the archives as soon as possible, sometimes I get a few days behind because
[01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:08.840] things are very, very busy around here always.
[01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:13.000] So at any rate, folks out there don't have to worry about frantically taking notes too
[01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:18.040] much, it's good to maybe jot a few things down here and there while you are listening
[01:35:18.040 --> 01:35:22.200] but you can always go back and listen to the archive, download it and then press pause
[01:35:22.200 --> 01:35:24.280] and write down whatever you need to.
[01:35:24.280 --> 01:35:28.360] But okay, now that that's out of the way, getting back to the point I was trying to
[01:35:28.360 --> 01:35:34.440] make concerning the civil lawsuits, what Randy is describing is what I would call the meat
[01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:35.440] tenderizer.
[01:35:35.440 --> 01:35:40.080] Okay, he calls it the tar baby and you may or may not get people indicted.
[01:35:40.080 --> 01:35:44.920] All right, if I'm going to go after people, I do intend for them to get indicted.
[01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:51.440] I do intend for them to lose their jobs because I think that this is my position, Randy doesn't
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:56.160] always agree with his position or maybe he never agrees with it but I don't think that
[01:35:56.160 --> 01:36:01.880] these rogue servants are going to learn any lesson at all until they see some of their
[01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:06.480] own losing their pensions, losing their jobs, going to jail.
[01:36:06.480 --> 01:36:11.520] Okay, I don't think it's enough just to scare them because they may get scared a little
[01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:17.520] bit but if they see that there's actually really no repercussion for their rogue activities
[01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:21.800] and rogue actions, it's only going to last so long.
[01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:28.940] I like Randy's analogy about the parent and the child and if you see the child running
[01:36:28.940 --> 01:36:33.200] out in the street, you're about to whip his behind but the one thing we don't want to
[01:36:33.200 --> 01:36:40.000] do is threaten to whip their behind and not actually do it because then the child ends
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.480] up learning that they can get away with anything and that the parent isn't going to follow
[01:36:44.480 --> 01:36:49.000] through on the judgment and I'm not saying that's what Randy does, that's not what Randy
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:54.200] does but I just don't want to ever give that appearance or that impression that well, you
[01:36:54.200 --> 01:36:55.760] know, we're not serious.
[01:36:55.760 --> 01:37:00.160] We are serious, I'm very serious and I know Randy's very serious too but at any rate,
[01:37:00.160 --> 01:37:06.480] back to the point about the tar baby, the meat tenderizer is for the purpose of all
[01:37:06.480 --> 01:37:11.000] these criminal complaints and getting them to point fingers at each other and then everybody
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.720] ends up casting the blame on who started all this, whose fault is this, etcetera, etcetera.
[01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:21.720] You know, you want to work them over real good like Randy says and to soften them up
[01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:27.040] for the deal, that's what it's all about, just like a prosecutor working over a defendant
[01:37:27.040 --> 01:37:33.520] to soften them up for the deal and of course, the deal is, it's time for you guys to pay
[01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:40.040] me now, you've caused me harm, you've caused me damage, you pulled me over, you arrested
[01:37:40.040 --> 01:37:45.760] me, this is false arrest, this is false imprisonment, all kinds of things, it goes to official
[01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:51.360] misconduct, official oppression, I mean, aggravated kidnapping, aggravated assault, all kinds
[01:37:51.360 --> 01:37:57.920] of things, the list can go on and on, I'm specifically talking about this police officer
[01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:03.760] that pulled over Jamie for the purpose of giving her employment termination papers,
[01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:07.960] I mean, this is just one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard in my life.
[01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:18.040] I mean, if these cowards can't stand to tell Jamie in person that you're fired or whatever,
[01:38:18.040 --> 01:38:24.440] I mean, well, at the least they could have her, they could mail her termination papers,
[01:38:24.440 --> 01:38:29.560] certified mail or they could have them served by a constable just like someone would have
[01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:35.400] a lawsuit served or served by, you know, a service processor, like maybe a private investigator
[01:38:35.400 --> 01:38:40.920] or something, I mean, but to have the police pull, I mean, this is beyond outrageous, it's
[01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:46.680] just absolutely beyond outrageous, but anyways, back to the point about the meat tenderizer
[01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:53.920] and setting them up for the deal, you guys harm me, you guys damage me, this is not okay,
[01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:57.440] this is not cool, and that's just in that one particular instance, it sounds like there's
[01:38:57.440 --> 01:39:02.920] all kinds of things that this mayor has done in other public servants regarding this entire
[01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:09.440] situation, and so the deal, back to the deal, all right, there have been violations of law,
[01:39:09.440 --> 01:39:16.560] there have been violations of civil rights, that is a federal lawsuit, okay, section 1983
[01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:21.160] of the lawsuit, this is very common in the federal courts, all right, but back to the
[01:39:21.160 --> 01:39:27.560] New Mexico stuff, what I'm going to hear is regarding the statute of limitations to file
[01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:35.440] a lawsuit, all right, once an alleged damage has occurred, an alleged harm, all right,
[01:39:35.440 --> 01:39:44.360] you have a certain length of time under statute within which you must file your lawsuit, you
[01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:50.920] can't just go back and sue somebody for something or sue some entity for something 10, 15, 20
[01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:58.720] years down the line, the only two crimes that I know of that have extended statute of limitations
[01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:05.400] are murder, which there is no statute of limitations for murder as far as criminal prosecution,
[01:40:05.400 --> 01:40:10.880] and the other one that I know of is fraud, and there is a statute of limitations for
[01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:18.160] criminal prosecution for fraud, but the time clock only begins to tick once the fraud is
[01:40:18.160 --> 01:40:24.440] discovered, because by the nature of the crime, fraud, it's hidden, all right, so those are
[01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:28.760] two examples, but something that happened, like what happened to Jamie, all right, you're
[01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:34.080] going to have a statute of limitations, and the time clock has already begun to tick,
[01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:38.680] and so mainly the point that I wanted to make is, Jamie, you need to look in your New Mexico
[01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:43.760] statutes and you need to look in the federal statutes concerning the statute of limitations
[01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:49.440] for these particular crimes and torts, and Randy will go over some of the crimes that
[01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:54.920] have been committed, and then you can go look them up, and there will always be a statute
[01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:59.680] of limitations associated with those crimes concerning a civil lawsuit, how long do you
[01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:08.080] have to file a lawsuit over these civil torts that were generated by these crimes, okay,
[01:41:08.080 --> 01:41:12.880] and so the main point I'm trying to make is, you want to keep an eye on these statute of
[01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:20.960] limitations, and don't start having too much fun with the tar baby and the meat tenderizer,
[01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:26.240] and let yourself run out of time regarding the statute of limitations, so I just want
[01:41:26.240 --> 01:41:30.960] to put that out there and make sure that you keep an eye on that, okay, and Randy, you
[01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:31.960] want to say something?
[01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:34.880] Yeah, let me address an issue about a tort letter.
[01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:39.600] Okay, wait, wait, hold on, one more thing before I forget, concerning the statute of
[01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:46.480] limitations, Randy and I were discussing on the break that most torts are two-year statute
[01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:51.700] of limitations, but I do have some experience researching New Mexico law, and I can tell
[01:41:51.700 --> 01:41:58.000] you that New Mexico is a little bit different, a lot of these torts have a one-year statute
[01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:02.840] of limitation, especially for stuff like what Jamie experienced, and I know because I had
[01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:06.760] similar torts, so keep an eye on that because New Mexico is a little bit different, they
[01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:11.440] have shorter statute of limitations, okay, go ahead, Randy.
[01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:19.520] Tort letters, as a rule, in every state that I've been to, before you can sue a public
[01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:26.960] entity, you must give them notice that you have been harmed an opportunity to cure, and
[01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:33.000] so far, everyone that I've looked at required that you give them notice and give them at
[01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:41.800] least 60 days to cure before you can file suit, so when you watch the statute of limitations,
[01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:48.800] make sure that you get your tort letter in at least 90 days before the time is up so
[01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:55.880] that if they don't get, if they don't cure within 60 days, normally they'll send you
[01:42:55.880 --> 01:43:01.680] a notice saying, oh, we didn't do anything, we're not liable, and when you get that, that
[01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:08.480] stops that clock, if you send them a tort letter and they send you a notice that they're
[01:43:08.480 --> 01:43:14.280] not liable two days later, then you can go ahead and sue, if they don't send you anything,
[01:43:14.280 --> 01:43:18.040] you got 60 days, you gotta wait, so make sure you have enough time for that.
[01:43:18.040 --> 01:43:23.640] And here's another issue about the tort letters, and I'm currently doing some research on this,
[01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:28.840] when it comes to intentional torts, a lot of times, you don't need to send a tort letter,
[01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:36.400] okay, because, say for example, this police officer that pulled Jamie over to give her
[01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:44.480] termination, employment termination notice, all right, excuse me, if he didn't know that
[01:43:44.480 --> 01:43:49.160] that's beyond the scope of his duty, not within the scope of his employment or his authority,
[01:43:49.160 --> 01:43:53.800] he should have, that's an intentional tort, so you don't necessarily have to send a tort
[01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:57.840] letter when it comes to intentional torts, we'll discuss this some more on the other
[01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.360] side, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:35.120 --> 01:46:39.800] Okay folks, somebody's going to police the policemen, somebody's going to bully the
[01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:42.560] policemen, somebody's going to bully the bully man, and that's us.
[01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.600] If it's not us, it's never going to happen.
[01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:47.600] No one's ever going to do it.
[01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:53.440] So back to what happened specifically with this police officer, all right, this goes
[01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:57.480] to what Randy mentioned earlier, screws the US.
[01:46:57.480 --> 01:47:06.720] All right, if this officer didn't know that he was acting outside the scope of his authority
[01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:15.240] by pulling Jamie over to meddle in a private affair regarding employment, he should have
[01:47:15.240 --> 01:47:18.880] known, okay, he should have known.
[01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:22.440] This is what goes, this is the case, screws the US.
[01:47:22.440 --> 01:47:25.400] He's a public servant, he should know.
[01:47:25.400 --> 01:47:31.540] He can't just rely on his training, okay, or what his superiors tell him to do.
[01:47:31.540 --> 01:47:39.100] He has a duty to know what his authority is and where it ends and what he is authorized
[01:47:39.100 --> 01:47:44.760] to do under what circumstances and when he has no authority at all.
[01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:50.960] That is his duty to know that, and if he doesn't, he's liable, all right, and this is what I'm
[01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:54.240] saying what goes to an intentional tort.
[01:47:54.240 --> 01:48:00.840] What this officer did, the false arrest, the aggravated assault, all these things, this
[01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:02.600] is an intentional tort.
[01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:05.000] It's not an accident.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.280] It's not like a car accident, okay.
[01:48:07.280 --> 01:48:13.560] It's not like he accidentally hit her mailbox or something, like a neighbor running over
[01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:22.040] your mailbox backing out of the driveway because the steering column, the brake, whatever,
[01:48:22.040 --> 01:48:26.320] the fluid line blew out and all of a sudden you don't have any control over your steering
[01:48:26.320 --> 01:48:31.680] column or the brake line went out or something and you step on the brakes and the car doesn't
[01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:32.680] stop.
[01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:35.360] This isn't an accident, okay.
[01:48:35.360 --> 01:48:36.840] This was intentional.
[01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:42.160] He turned on his lights and he pulled her over for a specific purpose and he did it
[01:48:42.160 --> 01:48:43.160] intentionally.
[01:48:43.160 --> 01:48:49.000] So this is an intentional tort, and so, yeah, this may be getting a little bit complicated
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.200] concerning the tort letter, but Randy and I were talking about on the brake and he's
[01:48:53.200 --> 01:48:57.440] got tons of case law on this matter, too, that with intentional torts, you don't have
[01:48:57.440 --> 01:49:01.760] to send a letter, but, you know, Randy is saying it's advisable to do so.
[01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:07.280] You just have to be careful how you do it, but this goes to what you're going to do after
[01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:11.360] you beat him up for a while with all the criminal complaints and that sort of thing.
[01:49:11.360 --> 01:49:14.920] So I guess that was about all I had to say about that one, Randy.
[01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:15.920] Yeah.
[01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:21.200] Yeah, the point of beating him up with all the criminal complaints, they will give you
[01:49:21.200 --> 01:49:27.720] so many claims against them that you can't keep up with them.
[01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:35.520] And what we find when we start looking at what the law says concerning the duties of
[01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:43.920] public officials and compare that to what they actually do, you will be astounded.
[01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:52.200] The problem is never about finding criminal charges you can make against public officials.
[01:49:52.200 --> 01:50:04.480] The problem is sorting through the stack and what we generally do is sort out those complaints
[01:50:04.480 --> 01:50:13.760] that tend to lead directly to the conclusions we want the reader to come to.
[01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:19.520] There are a lot of complaints that we could file that doesn't necessarily implicate an
[01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:23.760] intent toward a specific outcome.
[01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:33.000] So we tend to leave those be and pick those that lead, that give the impression, because
[01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:39.480] perception is everything, that give the impression that they're acting intentionally and in a
[01:50:39.480 --> 01:50:45.440] coordinated manner to violate law, deny you and your rights.
[01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:48.760] Jamie, does this make sense?
[01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.480] Yes, it does.
[01:50:51.480 --> 01:50:52.480] Yes.
[01:50:52.480 --> 01:50:53.480] Okay.
[01:50:53.480 --> 01:50:58.440] It will probably take a few shows for you to begin to come up to speed.
[01:50:58.440 --> 01:51:03.520] The first time you hear this, I'm sure it's not something that they taught you in high
[01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:08.960] school, that's for certain, and probably not something you hear too often.
[01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:16.880] So it takes a little bit for this to begin to make sense and the pieces to fit together.
[01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:24.280] But I can assure you that once you get this, once you understand how this works and you
[01:51:24.280 --> 01:51:30.600] go in there and ask them to do something you absolutely don't want them to do, and the
[01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:36.160] reason you don't want them to do it is because you're holding out the request in one hand
[01:51:36.160 --> 01:51:41.600] and in the other hand you got this big mallet you're fixing to whack them with when they
[01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:46.360] don't do what you're asking them to.
[01:51:46.360 --> 01:51:51.600] It only takes once or twice of that and they get it.
[01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:53.160] They get it really fast.
[01:51:53.160 --> 01:52:00.520] Tarrant County the other day got it really quick when the first time that clerk did something
[01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:07.320] I didn't like I took out my cell phone dial 9-1-1 and I do this all the time.
[01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:09.960] It's great fun.
[01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:14.480] You'll get to see what we call this chicken dance.
[01:52:14.480 --> 01:52:19.080] When you call a police officer, you know my most fun thing to do, well my second most
[01:52:19.080 --> 01:52:23.680] fun thing to do is to call the police on the police.
[01:52:23.680 --> 01:52:27.280] Call a police officer and ask him to arrest another police officer.
[01:52:27.280 --> 01:52:33.680] I once called the dispatcher and told him, this is in Bowie, Texas, you've got an officer
[01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:41.360] out here and he is so afraid of me I think he's going to piss his pants, but I'm concerned
[01:52:41.360 --> 01:52:46.560] that he's going to pull out his pistol and shoot me first, so can you get somebody out
[01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:49.960] here to keep him from shooting me?
[01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:54.200] This policeman standing there with his hand on his pistol, he put his hand on his pistol
[01:52:54.200 --> 01:53:01.120] when I took out my cell phone and he's looking at me like, I don't believe you just said
[01:53:01.120 --> 01:53:09.520] that to my dispatcher and then these policemen come out to answer my 9-1-1 call and I'm trying
[01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:14.080] to get them to arrest somebody they work with.
[01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:22.040] Now they have a problem, I'm the victim here, I'm the one that called 9-1-1 but they don't
[01:53:22.040 --> 01:53:27.920] want to arrest their buddy so they wind up standing there, well Mr. Calton, and they
[01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:30.680] shift from one foot to the other.
[01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:37.280] They watch the chicken run from the back, they kind of shift from one foot to the other
[01:53:37.280 --> 01:53:41.760] just like what, they look just like one of them chickens shifted from one foot to the
[01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:43.240] other.
[01:53:43.240 --> 01:53:49.760] The first time you do this to them you'll get to see it, but it's not appropriate to
[01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:51.120] laugh out loud.
[01:53:51.120 --> 01:54:00.600] You can smirk if you want to and that's not a bad idea because what the police will want
[01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:13.040] to be able to do is state that you were agitated and we never want them to think we're agitated.
[01:54:13.040 --> 01:54:18.360] That's why when I called the police and asked them to arrest this clerk or actually I asked
[01:54:18.360 --> 01:54:23.600] them to take a complaint against this clerk and they said well we won't be taking any
[01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:24.600] complaints here today.
[01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:29.160] I said okay then you're done, I don't know why they sent you, you're worthless, you're
[01:54:29.160 --> 01:54:33.000] dismissed, you can go.
[01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:39.880] Everything that I do I'm always thinking what will play well in front of a grand jury of
[01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:43.000] my peers.
[01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:46.640] Now they're going to tell them I was agitated when I told them that they were dismissed
[01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:48.920] they can go.
[01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:52.840] One of the things I like to do especially if I'm asking a police officer to arrest
[01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:53.840] a judge.
[01:54:53.840 --> 01:55:00.040] When I said asking, my second favorite thing was to ask a police officer to arrest another
[01:55:00.040 --> 01:55:07.200] police officer, my first favorite thing to do is to ask the bailiff to drag the judge
[01:55:07.200 --> 01:55:10.880] down off the bench and throw him in jail.
[01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:16.880] Now that is great fun but it takes a little more practice to work your way up to that
[01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:22.000] one and what the bailiff is going to do is he's going to refuse and I always tell the
[01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:28.600] bailiff well Bubba, life is filled with little decisions we all get to make some, it's your
[01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:29.600] turn.
[01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:34.200] Are you going to perform your duty and keep peace in the courtroom regardless of who breaches
[01:55:34.200 --> 01:55:35.200] it?
[01:55:35.200 --> 01:55:41.240] Are you going to shield that judge from prosecution by violation 3805 Penal Code, it's your call.
[01:55:41.240 --> 01:55:47.600] Oh I'm not going to arrest the judge and then I always like to say come on Mr. Bailiff take
[01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:50.520] your chicken suit off.
[01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:57.040] When I asked a sergeant to arrest the Texas Ranger he refused and I said sergeant I want
[01:55:57.040 --> 01:56:02.240] you to take your chicken suit off and he said I'm not taking my chicken suit off and then
[01:56:02.240 --> 01:56:04.280] this lieutenant came up.
[01:56:04.280 --> 01:56:08.600] That seems to be the problem here lieutenant, this sergeant will not take his chicken suit
[01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:12.320] off and the lieutenant said is that true sergeant you will take your chicken suit off?
[01:56:12.320 --> 01:56:14.880] That's right I'm not taking my chicken suit off.
[01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:21.880] Now they can't accuse me of being agitated.
[01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:28.480] They need to think that you don't care what they do, that you're just going to go to the
[01:56:28.480 --> 01:56:36.440] next step and you just ask them to do what you ask them to do so you could get them to
[01:56:36.440 --> 01:56:41.160] refuse so you could hammer them.
[01:56:41.160 --> 01:56:49.880] This is how we're going to fix our system and I can assure you this can get to be too
[01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:54.200] much fun.
[01:56:54.200 --> 01:57:01.240] So Jamie first thing you need to do is write down a timeline, this happened, this happened,
[01:57:01.240 --> 01:57:07.560] this happened, this happened, get that written down while it's still in your mind.
[01:57:07.560 --> 01:57:11.960] Once you have that down don't worry about filling in all the details just get a timeline
[01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:18.480] down because the next time you look at it a lot of details will pop up and then call
[01:57:18.480 --> 01:57:27.360] us back next week and we'll go over your timeline and you'll be surprised at the stuff we can
[01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:29.680] pull out of that.
[01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:33.400] Okay thank you.
[01:57:33.400 --> 01:57:41.520] You'll find this to be good education more than anything else, when you get done with
[01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:50.520] these guys it will change your whole perspective on your sovereignty and your freedom.
[01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:56.280] When the police turn their lights on behind me I don't get this empty feeling in the pit
[01:57:56.280 --> 01:58:04.120] of my stomach, I look up at those lights and I think go ahead Bubba take your best shot,
[01:58:04.120 --> 01:58:09.400] I'm fixing to give you a romp through the legal system you are not going to believe.
[01:58:09.400 --> 01:58:15.600] This is Randy Kelton David Stevens, Rue La La Radio, we will be back tomorrow night with
[01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:22.280] our four hour info marathon and Jamie if you have some more questions or something you
[01:58:22.280 --> 01:58:27.440] want to address tomorrow night we'll do a four hour show, if you call in tomorrow we'll
[01:58:27.440 --> 01:58:33.440] have more time to address, we'll probably give enough time here, we need to do a little
[01:58:33.440 --> 01:58:35.520] homework and then call us with the homework.
[01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:43.320] We will see you all tomorrow night, thank you all for being here and we will thank you
[01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:50.800] oh my train got tangled right at the end, okay we'll be back tomorrow night, good night.
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