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[00:17.480 --> 00:24.480]  6, 2013. Gold opened today at $1405, silver at $22.63, and bitcoin is trading at $120.
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[00:43.520 --> 00:49.680]  online at capitalcityautoostin.com. And now the news. Police accountability activist and
[00:49.680 --> 00:54.520]  founder of the Peaceful Streets Project, Antonio Beeler, has struck back against the legal
[00:54.520 --> 00:59.840]  system and yet again won. Well, sort of won. Previously, Beeler was charged with the felony
[00:59.840 --> 01:04.280]  for spitting on a police officer, but charges were dismissed in April. This time, Beeler
[01:04.280 --> 01:08.440]  found himself at the mercy of the legal system yet again for exercising his First Amendment
[01:08.440 --> 01:13.520]  rights at a court watch in Gonzales, Texas. On March 13, Beeler was exiting the courthouse
[01:13.520 --> 01:18.320]  premises when a police officer told him if he returned, he would face criminal charges.
[01:18.320 --> 01:23.480]  Beeler told the officer to go F himself and was subsequently arrested. Yesterday, Beeler
[01:23.480 --> 01:28.200]  represented himself in the Gonzales courtroom for a trial that lasted seven hours. The judge
[01:28.200 --> 01:32.920]  who oversaw the trial was the same judge who on March 13 had confiscated Beeler's camera
[01:32.920 --> 01:37.640]  and threatened him with arrest for filming in her courtroom. Even though two of the six
[01:37.640 --> 01:42.480]  jurors had police officers in their families, the trial concluded with a guilty verdict
[01:42.480 --> 01:48.080]  and a $1 fine as a penalty. Beeler, who represented himself, used jury nullification and an appeal
[01:48.080 --> 01:55.080]  to the First Amendment as a defense. Beeler plans to appeal the $1 fine.
[01:58.080 --> 02:02.480]  The Guardian has obtained a copy of a court order issued by the National Security Agency
[02:02.480 --> 02:07.280]  that allows the agency to collect telephone records from millions of Verizon customers.
[02:07.280 --> 02:12.200]  Specifically, the order, which was approved by FISA courts, requires Verizon, on an ongoing
[02:12.200 --> 02:17.620]  daily basis, to give the NSA information on all telephone calls and its systems, both
[02:17.620 --> 02:22.240]  within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries. The NSA has access to the phone
[02:22.240 --> 02:27.360]  number of both parties on a call, location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and
[02:27.360 --> 02:32.000]  the time and duration of all calls. The Guardian contacted the White House for comment, and
[02:32.000 --> 02:39.000]  so far the White House has declined.
[02:39.120 --> 02:44.840]  On Wednesday, the New York State Senate passed Senate Bill 2402, which would make it a felony
[02:44.840 --> 02:50.120]  to annoy a police officer. The original language of the bill made it a crime to harass, annoy,
[02:50.120 --> 02:55.120]  threaten, or alarm an officer while on duty. The updated text, however, requires harassment
[02:55.120 --> 03:22.120]  while subjecting an officer to any physical contact. The bill now heads to the State Assembly.
[03:26.120 --> 03:33.120]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys,
[03:33.120 --> 03:39.120]  bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? When you were eight
[03:39.120 --> 03:45.120]  and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule. So why are you
[03:45.120 --> 03:50.120]  acting like a bloody fool? If you get hot, then you must get cool. Bad boys, bad boys,
[03:50.120 --> 03:57.120]  whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha
[03:57.120 --> 04:02.120]  gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? You chuck it on that one, you chuck
[04:02.120 --> 04:06.120]  it on this one, you chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father, you chuck
[04:06.120 --> 04:10.120]  it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister, you chuck it on that one and you chuck
[04:10.120 --> 04:16.120]  it on me. Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:16.120 --> 04:32.980]  All right, howdy, howdy, this is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this
[04:32.980 --> 04:36.800]  Thursday, June the 6th.
[04:36.800 --> 04:38.400]  Nice to have you all here.
[04:38.400 --> 04:44.160]  I wanted to start out the show today talking about gun control.
[04:44.160 --> 04:49.720]  But more specifically, a backlash against gun control.
[04:49.720 --> 04:57.160]  I kind of consider myself a good one to talk about gun control because I hate guns.
[04:57.160 --> 04:59.760]  Don't like guns around me.
[04:59.760 --> 05:04.760]  When I was in the military, I was a weapons specialist.
[05:04.760 --> 05:08.480]  I worked on every kind of weapon you can think of.
[05:08.480 --> 05:15.280]  I was a marksman, but I spent too much time on the sharp end.
[05:15.280 --> 05:18.280]  So I don't want them around me if I can avoid it.
[05:18.280 --> 05:26.320]  I just want everybody else to have them because I recognize their value.
[05:26.320 --> 05:32.440]  And with the Obama administration and others pushing for gun control.
[05:32.440 --> 05:37.140]  And I hate to think that they would be staging these mass shootings for that purpose.
[05:37.140 --> 05:42.800]  But as I look at what's going on around the country, I get the impression that a great
[05:42.800 --> 05:49.640]  number of Americans tend to come to the same conclusion.
[05:49.640 --> 06:01.360]  And when I first heard of this shooting in this school, my first response concerning
[06:01.360 --> 06:09.120]  a real world remedy was not take away guns.
[06:09.120 --> 06:11.680]  Guns is like prostitution.
[06:11.680 --> 06:19.040]  We've been trying to legislate prostitution for what, 6,000 years now?
[06:19.040 --> 06:20.520]  You can't fix that.
[06:20.520 --> 06:28.520]  The drug wars were trying to legislate people abusing themselves with drugs or not abusing
[06:28.520 --> 06:31.840]  themselves with drugs, depending on how you feel about it.
[06:31.840 --> 06:36.320]  That is not something that we've been able to achieve.
[06:36.320 --> 06:43.600]  As a matter of fact, the statistics show as a result of the drug war, drug use got worse.
[06:43.600 --> 06:45.880]  Gun control.
[06:45.880 --> 06:54.040]  You simply are not going to control guns and that's all there is to that.
[06:54.040 --> 07:00.400]  No matter how much legislation we passed, those people who should not have guns are
[07:00.400 --> 07:03.000]  going to have guns.
[07:03.000 --> 07:10.260]  If you take guns away from everybody, the only ones who have the guns are the ones that
[07:10.260 --> 07:15.320]  absolutely should not have the guns.
[07:15.320 --> 07:26.280]  So my first reaction was, why in the heck don't they arm the teachers in this incident
[07:26.280 --> 07:33.260]  in Connecticut?
[07:33.260 --> 07:35.440]  We had two teachers.
[07:35.440 --> 07:43.960]  One was a psychologist and the other one was a school principal who charged this heavily
[07:43.960 --> 07:52.060]  armed gunman, who was obviously intent on murder because he was already killing people,
[07:52.060 --> 08:00.080]  charged him with their bare hands and were shot down like dogs.
[08:00.080 --> 08:09.220]  When someone goes to a turkey shoot, the last thing he wants is the turkey shooting back.
[08:09.220 --> 08:17.080]  And we just had a town near me, Argyle, Texas, a little town north of me, just authorized
[08:17.080 --> 08:23.120]  the teachers in the school to carry weapons.
[08:23.120 --> 08:29.680]  I expect that 99% of the teachers will not carry weapons.
[08:29.680 --> 08:34.560]  But if you're looking to have yourself a turkey shoot, you're not going to go somewhere
[08:34.560 --> 08:39.560]  where the turkeys are going to be shooting back, and that's how it is in the world I
[08:39.560 --> 08:40.920]  live in.
[08:40.920 --> 08:45.560]  Maybe in a perfect world, we could get rid of all the guns that everybody would live
[08:45.560 --> 08:49.160]  happily ever after.
[08:49.160 --> 08:54.880]  And last Thursday, we talked about religious issues.
[08:54.880 --> 09:01.920]  If God created man, and I don't know if he did or not, but for those who believe he did,
[09:01.920 --> 09:12.080]  we all have to accept that he created us terribly, terribly flawed.
[09:12.080 --> 09:18.120]  Human beings tend to prey on other human beings.
[09:18.120 --> 09:22.800]  That is the way we are put together.
[09:22.800 --> 09:27.920]  That's not going to change tomorrow or the next day or sometime in the near future.
[09:27.920 --> 09:32.140]  Human beings prey on human beings.
[09:32.140 --> 09:40.520]  The only reason I can see for the government wanting to remove the weapons from the public
[09:40.520 --> 09:44.400]  is so that they can more effectively prey on the public.
[09:44.400 --> 09:49.360]  I don't see any other reason.
[09:49.360 --> 09:55.440]  So the best thing we can do to eliminate the threat of guns is arm everybody.
[09:55.440 --> 09:59.520]  Now obviously that's not a great idea, there are some folks who shouldn't be armed, but
[09:59.520 --> 10:06.200]  allow anyone who chooses to be armed to do so.
[10:06.200 --> 10:14.480]  Yes, some people are going to be accidentally shot, but more will be struck by lightning.
[10:14.480 --> 10:22.520]  The more guns we have around, the more knowledgeable we become about them and the less accidents
[10:22.520 --> 10:23.520]  we have.
[10:23.520 --> 10:31.080]  In the military, everybody was armed and we occasionally had an accidental discharge,
[10:31.080 --> 10:35.880]  but it was extremely rare.
[10:35.880 --> 10:41.960]  And more often we have people run into telephone poles or a lot of things fall down in the
[10:41.960 --> 10:47.620]  shower was more likely to happen than an accidental discharge.
[10:47.620 --> 10:51.460]  So guns are not inherently dangerous.
[10:51.460 --> 10:56.760]  Human beings are inherently dangerous.
[10:56.760 --> 11:07.220]  Human beings who would tend to issue a threat tend to be sociopathic and narcissistic.
[11:07.220 --> 11:10.280]  It tends to take both sociopathy and narcissism.
[11:10.280 --> 11:18.880]  There are a lot of people, about 25% of the population are sociopaths in that they don't
[11:18.880 --> 11:19.880]  have feelings.
[11:19.880 --> 11:26.440]  If you're sitting in a restaurant and a baby cries out, 75% of the people in there
[11:26.440 --> 11:32.000]  will cringe, 25% won't.
[11:32.000 --> 11:39.860]  But for the most part, that 25% of the population who are sociopaths, who don't have empathy,
[11:39.860 --> 11:49.400]  who don't feel what humans feel, they learn in the culture what is responsive and how
[11:49.400 --> 11:51.960]  it's appropriate to respond.
[11:51.960 --> 11:58.160]  So they can learn the socially accepted responses.
[11:58.160 --> 12:04.560]  If they are a sociopath and they're also narcissistic, by narcissism, someone who's
[12:04.560 --> 12:11.040]  totally self-centered, now that's a prescription for a psychopath.
[12:11.040 --> 12:17.540]  Those are the ones that should not have guns and those are the ones that will almost certainly
[12:17.540 --> 12:26.280]  gravitate toward guns, but their narcissism, their total self-centeredness, tends to make
[12:26.280 --> 12:31.320]  them more responsive to someone else who has guns.
[12:31.320 --> 12:38.100]  Someone who's totally self-centered, the last thing he wants is for himself to be hurt.
[12:38.100 --> 12:43.260]  Now he can hurt others, he has no empathy, he doesn't feel what they feel.
[12:43.260 --> 12:49.300]  He can hurt others with impunity, but he doesn't want others to hurt back.
[12:49.300 --> 13:01.260]  If we are going to control this epidemic of violence, take the 99.6% of the population
[13:01.260 --> 13:11.320]  that are well-adjusted, normal, fully functioning human beings and give them the potential of
[13:11.320 --> 13:22.880]  being armed, I would very much like to see open carry, the right for anybody to walk
[13:22.880 --> 13:23.880]  around with a pistol.
[13:23.880 --> 13:27.000]  Now, most people are not going to walk around with a pistol strapped on their hip, but you'll
[13:27.000 --> 13:28.240]  occasionally see one.
[13:28.240 --> 13:34.440]  When I first moved to Fort Worth, occasionally you'd see someone walking around with a sidearm
[13:34.440 --> 13:38.560]  strapped on his hip, and that was legal at the time.
[13:38.560 --> 13:40.500]  They banned that soon after.
[13:40.500 --> 13:47.980]  We do have a concealed carry here now, but at the time it was not a big deal.
[13:47.980 --> 13:51.660]  You'd see trucks with gun racks in the back.
[13:51.660 --> 13:58.320]  A gun rack was just a fixture for a redneck pickup, and the police have been harassing
[13:58.320 --> 14:04.980]  people because of that, and they're stopping it, but at the time it was not a problem.
[14:04.980 --> 14:12.580]  And at the time, you did not want to smack your wife around in public because one of
[14:12.580 --> 14:16.820]  these rednecks is likely to pull that rifle down off the rack and bend the barrel over
[14:16.820 --> 14:20.220]  your head with it.
[14:20.220 --> 14:29.920]  It acted as a leveling aspect to the culture.
[14:29.920 --> 14:35.940]  The narcissistic sociopaths know that most people, the vast majority, are not narcissistic
[14:35.940 --> 14:38.660]  sociopaths.
[14:38.660 --> 14:45.560]  And the more empathetic someone is, the more likely he is to try to assist someone else
[14:45.560 --> 14:53.780]  who is in difficulty, and that makes for a bad situation if you're the bad guy.
[14:53.780 --> 14:58.460]  If you want to go rob somebody, you know, I keep thinking of that movie, I suspect everybody's
[14:58.460 --> 15:05.540]  seen it where these two guys go into this bar and pull out their weapons and says, this
[15:05.540 --> 15:08.480]  is a stick up, everybody put up your hands.
[15:08.480 --> 15:15.940]  And for 15 seconds, all you can hear are hammers clicking back, it's a police bar.
[15:15.940 --> 15:21.100]  The one guy whacks the other on the shoulder, I told you this was a bad idea.
[15:21.100 --> 15:27.580]  But I suspect, you know, 90% of the people would not shoot someone else unless they absolutely
[15:27.580 --> 15:29.720]  had to.
[15:29.720 --> 15:37.780]  And while human beings prey on other human beings, it's part of our nature.
[15:37.780 --> 15:45.400]  We're also empathetic, and we have a herding instinct in that we have a gene that compels
[15:45.400 --> 15:51.280]  us to protect the herd, the community, the group.
[15:51.280 --> 15:57.360]  So if someone else is being injured, we have a gene that compels us to try to help them.
[15:57.360 --> 16:06.360]  When everybody's armed, that gene will almost never have to be activated because the narcissistic
[16:06.360 --> 16:10.240]  sociopath would not dare risk it.
[16:10.240 --> 16:17.140]  When I come back, I want to read an article about cities and towns around the country
[16:17.140 --> 16:25.860]  that are passing legislation pushing back against the gun control laws.
[16:25.860 --> 16:33.180]  So they've created a backlash, I think, that they probably expected it because they understood
[16:33.180 --> 16:39.500]  that the logical response to these guys coming in with guns is make sure he comes into a
[16:39.500 --> 16:43.420]  place where the good guys have guns.
[16:43.420 --> 16:47.240]  Our phone lines are going to open, if you have a comment or a question, either on topic
[16:47.240 --> 16:58.600]  or off topic, give us a call, 512-646-1984, we'll be right back on the other side.
[16:58.600 --> 17:28.560]  Thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you in the next one.
[18:28.600 --> 18:58.560]  Thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you in the next one.
[19:28.600 --> 19:57.560]  Thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you in the next one.
[19:57.560 --> 20:14.960]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[20:14.960 --> 20:23.320]  And my comment earlier drew some response, and as I kind of hoped it would, and Debra
[20:23.320 --> 20:29.560]  would like to reply to some of my somewhat incautious comments.
[20:29.560 --> 20:30.560]  Debra?
[20:30.560 --> 20:31.560]  Okay.
[20:31.560 --> 20:34.960]  Well, you can have your opinion, but I just, and I don't want to spend the whole rest of
[20:34.960 --> 20:38.760]  the show debating or arguing about this or anything like that, but I just want to make
[20:38.760 --> 20:46.100]  it clear what the Bible says and what I believe and what all Christians believe.
[20:46.100 --> 20:53.240]  We do not believe, and I believe that it is a fact that God did not make us flawed, okay?
[20:53.240 --> 20:58.280]  God made man in his own image, and in the beginning, he made us perfect.
[20:58.280 --> 21:03.260]  In fact, in Genesis it says, after he made his creation and made man, he looked at us
[21:03.260 --> 21:06.320]  and said, it is good, okay?
[21:06.320 --> 21:10.440]  The reason that we're having all these problems and the reason we have all these psychopaths
[21:10.440 --> 21:15.820]  and people, you know, the crab in the bucket syndrome and hurting other people to get ahead
[21:15.820 --> 21:19.320]  and all these kinds of problems is not because God made us flawed.
[21:19.320 --> 21:23.160]  It's because we're fallen, we're poisoned, okay?
[21:23.160 --> 21:30.120]  We're poisoned from the beginning when Adam and Eve took the, they fell, they ate the
[21:30.120 --> 21:33.920]  poison fruit, and it wasn't an apple, everybody likes saying it's an apple, it wasn't even
[21:33.920 --> 21:35.040]  an apple, all right?
[21:35.040 --> 21:39.600]  But the point being, that poisoned all of mankind.
[21:39.600 --> 21:43.720]  Now some people may say, how can this be?
[21:43.720 --> 21:47.760]  How can it be that you can't say that we are responsible for the sins of our fathers?
[21:47.760 --> 21:53.080]  Okay, well, for one thing, everybody's done wrong of their own accord, even if you don't
[21:53.080 --> 21:56.280]  want to believe that that poison is passed on.
[21:56.280 --> 22:04.160]  But the fact and the reality is that the poison is passed on from generation to generation,
[22:04.160 --> 22:05.280]  we are poisoned.
[22:05.280 --> 22:07.780]  It doesn't mean God made us flawed.
[22:07.780 --> 22:11.280]  It doesn't mean that God poisoned us, okay?
[22:11.280 --> 22:12.920]  Man chose that, all right?
[22:12.920 --> 22:15.680]  And here's why, you can laugh all you want, Randy, okay?
[22:15.680 --> 22:16.680]  No, no, it's not that.
[22:16.680 --> 22:17.680]  You laugh it, laugh it.
[22:17.680 --> 22:18.680]  I like the argument.
[22:18.680 --> 22:20.320]  Okay, look, it's not an argument.
[22:20.320 --> 22:21.320]  It's a reality, okay?
[22:21.320 --> 22:22.320]  Let me finish.
[22:22.320 --> 22:23.320]  Let me finish.
[22:23.320 --> 22:24.320]  Let me finish.
[22:24.320 --> 22:25.320]  Let me finish.
[22:25.320 --> 22:26.320]  Let me finish.
[22:26.320 --> 22:27.320]  Let me finish.
[22:27.320 --> 22:28.320]  Let me finish.
[22:28.320 --> 22:29.320]  Let me finish.
[22:29.320 --> 22:30.320]  Let me finish.
[22:30.320 --> 22:31.320]  Let me finish.
[22:31.320 --> 22:32.320]  Let me finish.
[22:32.320 --> 22:33.320]  Let me finish.
[22:33.320 --> 22:34.320]  Let me finish.
[22:34.320 --> 22:35.320]  Let me finish.
[22:35.320 --> 22:36.320]  I'll give the analogy of GMO foods, okay?
[22:36.320 --> 22:37.320]  It has been scientifically proven over and over that GMO foods, especially things like
[22:37.320 --> 22:43.080]  corn, and now they've got the GMO wheat, not only does it damage your own DNA permanently,
[22:43.080 --> 22:44.480]  but guess what?
[22:44.480 --> 22:50.200]  That genetic damage of your chromosomes and your DNA, that passes on to your children,
[22:50.200 --> 22:51.200]  okay?
[22:51.200 --> 22:56.080]  So does that mean that God made your child deformed?
[22:56.080 --> 22:59.000]  No, God did not make your child deformed.
[22:59.000 --> 23:04.760]  What it means is that you ate poison, and that poison passed on to your children, okay?
[23:04.760 --> 23:07.180]  It's just like with the depleted uranium.
[23:07.180 --> 23:09.560]  It's the same thing, okay?
[23:09.560 --> 23:11.520]  It doesn't mean that God made us flawed, okay?
[23:11.520 --> 23:14.180]  So I have to put that out there because I have to speak the truth.
[23:14.180 --> 23:18.100]  I was put here to speak the truth and the reality, and that is the truth and the reality.
[23:18.100 --> 23:21.440]  So I've got to set the record straight, but I don't want to get into a big debate
[23:21.440 --> 23:23.840]  and argue about it all night long, okay?
[23:23.840 --> 23:24.840]  I like that better.
[23:24.840 --> 23:25.840]  All right.
[23:25.840 --> 23:29.400]  I like it better that way than my way.
[23:29.400 --> 23:31.200]  And if I sounded like I was laughing, I wasn't.
[23:31.200 --> 23:32.920]  I was approving of what you had.
[23:32.920 --> 23:33.920]  I liked your argument.
[23:33.920 --> 23:34.920]  Okay.
[23:34.920 --> 23:35.920]  I agree with that.
[23:35.920 --> 23:44.040]  I like that better than thinking that we are basically really screwed up.
[23:44.040 --> 23:45.040]  No.
[23:45.040 --> 23:48.360]  Being poisoned is something we can fix.
[23:48.360 --> 23:52.680]  If it's our basic nature, we've got a problem.
[23:52.680 --> 23:55.760]  But if it's poison, we've been poisoned a long time.
[23:55.760 --> 24:00.120]  And regardless of how it got there, humans are what they are.
[24:00.120 --> 24:01.120]  Yes.
[24:01.120 --> 24:05.000]  And it can be fixed, and the fix is to receive the Lord Jesus.
[24:05.000 --> 24:06.880]  That is the fix for the problem.
[24:06.880 --> 24:09.440]  Well, not all of us get there.
[24:09.440 --> 24:14.200]  And even when they get there, sometimes we still have problems with them.
[24:14.200 --> 24:19.360]  This gun thing, people are going to prey on people regardless of how they got there.
[24:19.360 --> 24:20.360]  Yes.
[24:20.360 --> 24:21.680]  And also, I wanted to comment on a few other things.
[24:21.680 --> 24:27.800]  I absolutely, totally believe, and there is strong factual evidence that the government
[24:27.800 --> 24:33.720]  pulls off almost every single one of these shootings, these school shootings, everything
[24:33.720 --> 24:38.440]  for the purpose of fear-mongering the public into giving up their guns.
[24:38.440 --> 24:40.940]  This has been shown over and over and over again.
[24:40.940 --> 24:47.720]  There's helicopter video footage of these, what looks like military personnel and camo
[24:47.720 --> 24:52.120]  and everything that are running from the scene of the Sandy Hook.
[24:52.120 --> 24:54.600]  There's police helicopter footage of it.
[24:54.600 --> 25:00.040]  And one of them was captured and even told the parents, as the police were escorting
[25:00.040 --> 25:03.400]  him away, I didn't do it.
[25:03.400 --> 25:04.440]  You didn't do it.
[25:04.440 --> 25:05.820]  You didn't do what?
[25:05.820 --> 25:09.320]  And that begs the next question, well, who did it?
[25:09.320 --> 25:10.620]  We never heard about that.
[25:10.620 --> 25:14.280]  We never heard what happened to that guy ever again.
[25:14.280 --> 25:15.560]  All of it is staged.
[25:15.560 --> 25:16.960]  All of it is completely staged.
[25:16.960 --> 25:21.200]  The Batman shooting, that guy was in a DARPA mind control program, the whole nine yards.
[25:21.200 --> 25:22.320]  It's all staged.
[25:22.320 --> 25:26.760]  There is not one shooting, not one that is not staged by the government.
[25:26.760 --> 25:30.560]  I have been following this for months and for years.
[25:30.560 --> 25:31.560]  All of it is staged.
[25:31.560 --> 25:33.200]  All of it is completely staged.
[25:33.200 --> 25:37.760]  And another thing that I was going to mention, just on a humorous note, you're talking about
[25:37.760 --> 25:43.280]  being in a restaurant and you hear the little kid crying or whatever, throwing a fit and
[25:43.280 --> 25:48.960]  screaming and you see 75% of the people cringe and the other 25% don't cringe.
[25:48.960 --> 25:51.400]  I was thinking, yeah, that's because they're deaf.
[25:51.400 --> 25:52.400]  Okay.
[25:52.400 --> 26:00.800]  Because when I go to a restaurant, you better believe I cringe because that hurts my ears.
[26:00.800 --> 26:03.000]  You cringe for a different reason.
[26:03.000 --> 26:04.720]  It hurts, man.
[26:04.720 --> 26:12.040]  It's pathetic, but once you've raised a child and have laid it to three o'clock in the morning-
[26:12.040 --> 26:16.200]  And had your ear drums blown out?
[26:16.200 --> 26:17.200]  Yeah.
[26:17.200 --> 26:21.800]  You learn just how to turn that high volume, that high pitch volume down.
[26:21.800 --> 26:22.800]  Yeah.
[26:22.800 --> 26:24.600]  You get your ear drums blown out is what it gets.
[26:24.600 --> 26:25.600]  All right.
[26:25.600 --> 26:26.600]  Well, anyway-
[26:26.600 --> 26:30.160]  And by the time you're a grandfather, you don't even notice it.
[26:30.160 --> 26:31.160]  Yeah.
[26:31.160 --> 26:32.160]  Yeah.
[26:32.160 --> 26:33.160]  Yeah.
[26:33.160 --> 26:34.160]  Okay.
[26:34.160 --> 26:35.160]  Yeah.
[26:35.160 --> 26:36.160]  Okay.
[26:36.160 --> 26:37.160]  I did want to get into this.
[26:37.160 --> 26:39.080]  Do you have anything else for us?
[26:39.080 --> 26:41.840]  That's all for now, but I'll be here for more commentary.
[26:41.840 --> 26:42.840]  Okay.
[26:42.840 --> 26:48.720]  And I'll be open for any callers who want to rail on me about my comments, so I won't
[26:48.720 --> 26:49.720]  mind at all.
[26:49.720 --> 26:51.220]  Oh, by the way, wait, wait.
[26:51.220 --> 26:54.760]  One other comment about the backlash against the gun control.
[26:54.760 --> 26:55.760]  Okay.
[26:55.760 --> 27:03.640]  Everyone I'm sure heard about this military, I think it was a veteran that got arrested
[27:03.640 --> 27:09.140]  up in Temple, Texas is about an hour north of Austin for walking down the road with his
[27:09.140 --> 27:13.760]  son in the backwoods and he had a rifle slung over his shoulder.
[27:13.760 --> 27:14.760]  Well, guess what?
[27:14.760 --> 27:16.080]  That's legal in Texas.
[27:16.080 --> 27:17.080]  Okay.
[27:17.080 --> 27:24.180]  For some strange reason, it's not legal to open carry a pistol, but it is legal to open
[27:24.180 --> 27:27.560]  carry a rifle or shotgun for all the sense that makes.
[27:27.560 --> 27:31.200]  Well, at any rate, and it can be fully loaded and armed too.
[27:31.200 --> 27:39.600]  So this military veteran is walking down the road, backwood, totally legal with his rifle
[27:39.600 --> 27:40.600]  slung around his shoulder.
[27:40.600 --> 27:45.100]  Now, you can't be holding it like you're about to fire or something because that can be considered
[27:45.100 --> 27:49.460]  menacing behavior or brandishing a weapon or something, but you can have it slung over
[27:49.460 --> 27:53.960]  your shoulder or hanging from your belt or whatever, hanging from your shoulder or hanging
[27:53.960 --> 27:54.960]  from your back.
[27:54.960 --> 27:55.960]  All right.
[27:55.960 --> 28:00.660]  So this guy gets tackled by the police, they arrest him, they take his gun, no receipt,
[28:00.660 --> 28:01.660]  no nothing.
[28:01.660 --> 28:02.920]  He doesn't know when he's going to get his gun back.
[28:02.920 --> 28:05.040]  Anyway, it's this big brouhaha.
[28:05.040 --> 28:09.080]  Well, just this past Saturday, they had a big march.
[28:09.080 --> 28:10.640]  There was a big march.
[28:10.640 --> 28:14.080]  Gun rights advocates had a big march in Temple, Texas.
[28:14.080 --> 28:19.400]  Several hundred people showed up, men and women, and everyone was encouraged to bring
[28:19.400 --> 28:25.200]  their long arm with them fully loaded and to be having it slung over their shoulder
[28:25.200 --> 28:30.040]  in protest of what happened to this gentleman a month or so ago.
[28:30.040 --> 28:33.680]  And it was a perfectly peaceful march and nobody got in trouble.
[28:33.680 --> 28:38.200]  And so it's sending the message to the bad guys that guess what?
[28:38.200 --> 28:39.200]  It ain't working.
[28:39.200 --> 28:40.200]  All right.
[28:40.200 --> 28:41.200]  We're not giving up our guns.
[28:41.200 --> 28:43.520]  We already have them.
[28:43.520 --> 28:44.840]  Stop trying to take them away.
[28:44.840 --> 28:45.840]  Okay.
[28:45.840 --> 28:46.840]  Anyway, that's all.
[28:46.840 --> 28:47.840]  Just want to report on that.
[28:47.840 --> 28:56.000]  Well, I would hope that this group that marched would all prepare criminal charges against
[28:56.000 --> 28:57.920]  the officers who made the arrest.
[28:57.920 --> 28:58.920]  Me too.
[28:58.920 --> 29:06.200]  And this all needs to be vetted out before a grand jury, not before a prosecutor or local
[29:06.200 --> 29:13.040]  judge who's going to squeeze up behind that thin blue line with these jackbooted thugs,
[29:13.040 --> 29:18.640]  but with a grand jury of our peers, not their peers.
[29:18.640 --> 29:20.560]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[29:20.560 --> 29:21.560]  Okay.
[29:21.560 --> 29:24.920]  We have used up another segment.
[29:24.920 --> 29:28.280]  I've got a couple of callers on the line.
[29:28.280 --> 29:33.280]  I'll briefly go through this article when we come back on the other side.
[29:33.280 --> 29:40.120]  It's an interesting article that demonstrates to me that the rank and file members of the
[29:40.120 --> 29:41.120]  public...
[29:41.120 --> 29:43.120]  They're coming for you, Randy.
[29:43.120 --> 29:45.600]  Yeah, that's the ambulance.
[29:45.600 --> 29:49.080]  Rank and file members of the public still have their head screwed on strike.
[29:49.080 --> 29:52.720]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, ruler of our radio.
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[33:12.400 --> 33:22.240]  Yeah, Mr. Officer, you're taking the line to hell.
[33:22.240 --> 33:29.280]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:29.280 --> 33:31.600]  I don't understand.
[33:31.600 --> 33:32.600]  Okay.
[33:32.600 --> 33:33.600]  We are back.
[33:33.600 --> 33:37.160]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Roo of Our Radio.
[33:37.160 --> 33:41.880]  And before we go to callers, I do want to go over this article a bit.
[33:41.880 --> 33:47.200]  St. Charles, Missouri, efforts at the national state level to pass new gun control laws have
[33:47.200 --> 33:49.480]  stirred up an unintended backlash.
[33:49.480 --> 33:54.000]  Local officials who are not only rejecting the new legislation, but actively nullifying
[33:54.000 --> 33:57.440]  gun controls laws already in place.
[33:57.440 --> 34:05.240]  Police Chief Mark Kussler of Gilberton Borough, Pennsylvania, is among more than 200 law enforcement
[34:05.240 --> 34:09.640]  officers, state lawmakers, county officials, and concerned citizens who gathered Friday
[34:09.640 --> 34:15.760]  at the annual convention of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association in
[34:15.760 --> 34:17.480]  St. Charles, Missouri.
[34:17.480 --> 34:22.400]  Among the hot topics at the conference, examples of local and county officials who have declared
[34:22.400 --> 34:28.280]  gun controls laws already on the books null and void in their communities.
[34:28.280 --> 34:33.520]  January 3rd of this year, Kussler drafted a Second Amendment protection resolution for
[34:33.520 --> 34:38.160]  his little town of roughly 800 residents, which when passed by the city officials a
[34:38.160 --> 34:43.120]  few weeks later, Kussler told the conference, nullified every single gun control law in
[34:43.120 --> 34:44.120]  the nation.
[34:44.120 --> 34:50.540]  I have a very unique view, Kussler said, if you want to own a firearm, carry a gun under
[34:50.540 --> 34:56.320]  your jacket or over your jacket, the Second Amendment is your concealed carry permit.
[34:56.320 --> 34:58.960]  It has nothing to do with self-defense.
[34:58.960 --> 35:02.200]  It has to do with freedom from tyranny.
[35:02.200 --> 35:07.520]  This indicates this guy fully understands the reason the right to bear arms was put
[35:07.520 --> 35:10.280]  in the Constitution.
[35:10.280 --> 35:16.560]  Not to protect us from each other, but to protect us from our own government.
[35:16.560 --> 35:20.600]  Kussler told the conference, nullification is the key.
[35:20.600 --> 35:22.600]  We just have to tell them that's it.
[35:22.600 --> 35:26.600]  I drew my line in the sand back on January 3rd.
[35:26.600 --> 35:28.640]  One person can make a difference.
[35:28.640 --> 35:30.960]  You just need to do something about it.
[35:30.960 --> 35:33.200]  Apparently, Kussler's not alone.
[35:33.200 --> 35:40.720]  Michael Perwilka of the Institute for the Constitution, an attorney and former Constitution
[35:40.720 --> 35:45.680]  Party candidate for president, also told the conference about Carroll County, Maryland,
[35:45.680 --> 35:53.960]  which on May 22nd adopted a resolution declaring it a Second Amendment sanctuary county.
[35:53.960 --> 36:02.480]  The resolution declares American Firearms Safety Act or 213 or MFSA, which reportedly
[36:02.480 --> 36:08.660]  bans the sale of 45 types of rifles, magazines, and requires law-abiding citizens to submit
[36:08.660 --> 36:14.520]  to licensing fees, background checks, fingerprinting, and renewal fees, clearly violates the Second
[36:14.520 --> 36:19.040]  Amendment to the United States Constitution along with Article II of the American Declaration
[36:19.040 --> 36:20.040]  of Rights.
[36:20.040 --> 36:26.800]  So, and they're going to say that a number of towns and cities are beginning to pick
[36:26.800 --> 36:35.440]  up this resolution and adjusting it to their locations, so look at the effect of this.
[36:35.440 --> 36:43.400]  If you have one town in Maryland that moved to nullify all these gun laws, if you need
[36:43.400 --> 36:45.160]  a weapon, go there.
[36:45.160 --> 36:51.040]  Initially, the gun sellers there get a lot more business, but you can get guns without
[36:51.040 --> 36:52.600]  all of these government checks.
[36:52.600 --> 37:01.720]  It will effectively nullify the gun control laws as concerns not only the state of Maryland,
[37:01.720 --> 37:05.840]  but everybody within driving range.
[37:05.840 --> 37:13.960]  So it won't take a lot of these to nullify this nonsense.
[37:13.960 --> 37:21.840]  For me, the most compelling thing about this is, is that the rank and file, the general
[37:21.840 --> 37:30.200]  ordinary people see the fallacy of removing guns to increase safety.
[37:30.200 --> 37:46.040]  Now, that may sound logical, but one of my favorite quotes goes to, logic is not truth,
[37:46.040 --> 37:53.920]  it merely has the ring of truth, and therefore is the first refuge of the scoundrel.
[37:53.920 --> 38:04.960]  And in this case, the proposed logic for removing guns in order to protect the public is absolutely
[38:04.960 --> 38:08.520]  nonsense.
[38:08.520 --> 38:10.320]  That's my opinion.
[38:10.320 --> 38:12.080]  I'm sticking to it.
[38:12.080 --> 38:20.080]  We will go on to callers and if you disagree with me, by all means, give me a call.
[38:20.080 --> 38:23.080]  I will be glad to hear your opinion.
[38:23.080 --> 38:29.280]  We're going to go to Jennifer in Georgia.
[38:29.280 --> 38:31.960]  I see her in my list, I don't see her on the call board.
[38:31.960 --> 38:37.080]  She had a comment about military and it seemed to be on point, but I don't see on the call
[38:37.080 --> 38:38.080]  board.
[38:38.080 --> 38:41.400]  So I'm going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[38:41.400 --> 38:44.160]  I know Mark in Wisconsin is causing trouble again.
[38:44.160 --> 38:47.080]  What are you up to now, Mr. Mark?
[38:47.080 --> 38:52.360]  Well, actually, I'm not causing trouble, but I've been listening to some of the, trying
[38:52.360 --> 38:58.200]  to catch up on the old podcasts and I'm just wondering how Mark-
[38:58.200 --> 38:59.440]  Oh, wait a minute, hold on.
[38:59.440 --> 39:01.800]  You're not the Mark, you're not from Madison?
[39:01.800 --> 39:02.920]  No, no.
[39:02.920 --> 39:08.720]  I'm the other Mark, the one who had a judge with-
[39:08.720 --> 39:11.440]  I disparaged you inappropriately.
[39:11.440 --> 39:14.200]  That's fine, that's fine.
[39:14.200 --> 39:19.840]  I believe the Mark in Madison spells his with a K.
[39:19.840 --> 39:23.080]  That's how I caught it, yours is with a C. Okay, go ahead.
[39:23.080 --> 39:27.040]  C is correct, the K is just wrong.
[39:27.040 --> 39:32.680]  Anyway, in listening to a couple of the old podcasts, it was mentioned that, you know,
[39:32.680 --> 39:38.800]  objection should be early, often, et cetera, and the objection preserves one's right for
[39:38.800 --> 39:39.800]  the appeal.
[39:39.800 --> 39:47.640]  Now, my question is, does it actually have to, you have to say objection, or in the particular
[39:47.640 --> 39:54.480]  case that's now long dead and done with, the judge went ahead and had his ex parte hearing.
[39:54.480 --> 40:00.400]  I filed a motion to have a hearing about that, and he said, but we're not going to have that
[40:00.400 --> 40:04.160]  motion, we're moving forward, and that's the way it is.
[40:04.160 --> 40:10.640]  If I had, was going to have to have an appeal on that point, did I have to say objection,
[40:10.640 --> 40:15.920]  or was it good enough that I had filed paperwork to say-
[40:15.920 --> 40:21.320]  No, the fact that you filed the motion was the objection.
[40:21.320 --> 40:23.660]  Ah, okay, okay.
[40:23.660 --> 40:29.520]  That he denied your motion and moved ahead, you don't have to object to his denial of
[40:29.520 --> 40:30.520]  the motion.
[40:30.520 --> 40:33.720]  You don't have to do that in court.
[40:33.720 --> 40:38.440]  You object to issues that are brought before the court.
[40:38.440 --> 40:48.640]  It's generally not a good idea to lodge an objection to the ruling of the court in the
[40:48.640 --> 40:53.440]  court because that generally comes off as argumentative.
[40:53.440 --> 40:54.440]  Okay.
[40:54.440 --> 41:01.840]  You can ask the court to reconsider and give him reason to reconsider, but no, you don't
[41:01.840 --> 41:06.040]  have to lodge an objection to a ruling by the court.
[41:06.040 --> 41:07.040]  Okay.
[41:07.040 --> 41:08.960]  That's done on appeal.
[41:08.960 --> 41:10.240]  All right.
[41:10.240 --> 41:15.120]  Then the second part, and I had forgotten to mention this to the call screener, is about
[41:15.120 --> 41:16.120]  non-profits.
[41:16.120 --> 41:21.640]  Now, having formed a non-profit, part of the whole song and dance, it's filtered on your
[41:21.640 --> 41:27.600]  pants, is you're creating this corporation for the public good.
[41:27.600 --> 41:32.800]  And I've never gotten a straight answer from anybody where I've asked this, is there a
[41:32.800 --> 41:39.520]  way for the public to say, we want to see your accounting books and your documentation,
[41:39.520 --> 41:40.520]  et cetera.
[41:40.520 --> 41:45.920]  In theory, the public would have standing, except that the public's never been harmed,
[41:45.920 --> 41:51.240]  so I'm not seeing how you can go from the public good to a member of the public wanting
[41:51.240 --> 41:55.480]  to see what's behind the kimono, as it were.
[41:55.480 --> 41:56.480]  Okay.
[41:56.480 --> 41:58.040]  Short answer, no.
[41:58.040 --> 41:59.040]  Okay.
[41:59.040 --> 42:10.160]  You can't... A company has to be able to maintain some kind of secrecy in its accounting,
[42:10.160 --> 42:16.280]  and unless we have standing with the company itself, like a stockholder or something, we
[42:16.280 --> 42:26.600]  can't access their records just under open records, because while they are authorized
[42:26.600 --> 42:34.640]  by the state, they are not a public organization or even a quasi-public organization.
[42:34.640 --> 42:42.440]  It's even a 501c3, which is supposedly for the public good, and the people involved are
[42:42.440 --> 42:45.840]  administering it on behalf of the public and the public good.
[42:45.840 --> 42:46.840]  Okay.
[42:46.840 --> 42:51.920]  That's a more fine-tuned issue, and I wouldn't know how to answer that.
[42:51.920 --> 42:52.920]  Yeah.
[42:52.920 --> 42:56.560]  I haven't found anybody who can give me a good answer on it.
[42:56.560 --> 43:03.840]  That's a good question to raise, and what it may well go to is first blush.
[43:03.840 --> 43:08.520]  There are a lot of questions that haven't been asked yet.
[43:08.520 --> 43:09.520]  Okay.
[43:09.520 --> 43:14.600]  There's been a lot of things that people complain about, but they haven't brought the question
[43:14.600 --> 43:16.440]  before the court.
[43:16.440 --> 43:20.960]  Could I make a comment here?
[43:20.960 --> 43:21.960]  Absolutely.
[43:21.960 --> 43:27.520]  Mark, have you looked up the statutes involving 501c3 corporations to see what it says about
[43:27.520 --> 43:28.520]  that?
[43:28.520 --> 43:32.560]  I have looked at some of it when I was forming the corporation.
[43:32.560 --> 43:36.400]  I haven't looked at it since to see about this particular issue.
[43:36.400 --> 43:37.400]  Okay.
[43:37.400 --> 43:38.400]  All right.
[43:38.400 --> 43:39.920]  Stay right there, because I have some thoughts on that.
[43:39.920 --> 43:42.120]  I'm going to address on the other side.
[43:42.120 --> 43:43.120]  Great.
[43:43.120 --> 43:44.120]  Okay, great.
[43:44.120 --> 43:45.120]  All right.
[43:45.120 --> 43:46.120]  This is the rule of law.
[43:46.120 --> 43:49.400]  It is Thursday, June 6, 2013.
[43:49.400 --> 43:51.360]  I am Deborah Stevens here with Randy Kelton.
[43:51.360 --> 44:03.600]  If you'd like to call and ask us a question, 512-646-1984, we will be right back.
[44:03.600 --> 44:09.040]  Mr. President, members of Congress, you've been making a lot of noise about taking our
[44:09.040 --> 44:12.560]  guns away, but you might want to review history.
[44:12.560 --> 44:17.040]  1835 Gonzales, Texas Territory.
[44:17.040 --> 44:21.180]  The authorities wanted to confiscate the big gun that protected that colony.
[44:21.180 --> 44:24.200]  You know what the people said?
[44:24.200 --> 44:29.000]  Come and take it, because they were willing to fight for their freedom and their guns.
[44:29.000 --> 44:30.000]  So are we.
[44:30.000 --> 44:31.000]  Come and take it if you want it.
[44:31.000 --> 44:32.000]  Come and take it if you think you can.
[44:32.000 --> 44:33.000]  Come and take it, but I warn you, you'll have to price the whole thing.
[44:33.000 --> 44:34.000]  Come and take it, but I want you, too.
[44:34.000 --> 44:41.000]  Come and take it, but I warn you, you'll have to price the whole thing.
[44:41.000 --> 44:48.120]  you, you'll have to pry it from our cold dead hands. We want the freedom that God gave us,
[44:48.120 --> 44:55.240]  so you best not cross that line. If you want this gun, you gotta come through us and take it
[44:56.280 --> 45:01.400]  one shot at a time. Just like Gonzalez, we're keeping our guns.
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[46:15.400 --> 46:19.560]  Okay, folks, we're back. This is the Rule of Law. We're talking to Mark in Wisconsin right now
[46:19.560 --> 46:28.600]  about 501c3s and does the public have a quote right to inspect books, records, etc. And I don't
[46:28.600 --> 46:34.760]  know the specific answer to that question because I haven't studied the statutes on 501c3. Mark,
[46:34.760 --> 46:41.160]  I would advise that you look up and carefully study all the statutes, all the federal statutes
[46:41.160 --> 46:47.240]  involving 501c3 and the case law. And here is my basic answer to the question.
[46:47.240 --> 46:56.120]  If it does indeed say either in case law or statute or both that a 501c3 corporation has to
[46:56.120 --> 47:02.520]  have their books, records, etc. open to the public, that is not a violation of your rights.
[47:02.520 --> 47:11.000]  That is not a violation of Fourth Amendment or anything like that because, drum roll, please,
[47:11.000 --> 47:14.760]  and most of the audience who have heard Harmon Taylor are going to know what I'm about to say,
[47:14.760 --> 47:21.000]  it's by agreement. You agreed to it. You agreed to it ahead of time. That's all she wrote. Okay,
[47:21.000 --> 47:28.440]  see, everything is by commercial agreement now. Harmon Taylor will tell you this over and over
[47:28.440 --> 47:34.040]  again, and he will back it up with his own case law, with cases that he was involved in,
[47:34.040 --> 47:40.200]  appellate court rulings that basically say the Constitution is meaningless, it doesn't exist
[47:40.200 --> 47:47.000]  anymore, there's no such thing as constitutionally protected rights, etc., etc. The only thing that
[47:47.000 --> 47:54.680]  matters is the agreement. Every single law on the books is by commercial agreement, period.
[47:54.680 --> 48:03.320]  The only laws that are not by commercial agreement are common law crimes. Murder, rape, pillage,
[48:03.320 --> 48:10.200]  assault, robbery, this sort of thing. Okay, stuff in Title 18 or stuff at the state level
[48:10.200 --> 48:17.240]  that is considered common law crimes. Okay, damage, intentional damage to other people's
[48:17.240 --> 48:24.840]  property, criminal negligence, this sort of thing. Everything else is by commercial agreement,
[48:24.840 --> 48:30.280]  and you can't agree to it and then come back after the fact and say, oh, it's not fair.
[48:30.280 --> 48:35.960]  It violates my rights. No, no, no, no. You have to go into these sorts of things with your eyes
[48:35.960 --> 48:44.120]  wide open. You can't say, oh, it's not fair. It's a violation of my rights. No, nobody's holding a
[48:44.120 --> 48:48.680]  gun to your head saying you have to form a 501c3 corporation. Nobody's holding a gun to your head
[48:48.680 --> 48:54.440]  saying you have to enter into a commercial nexus with the government, all right, by any means.
[48:54.440 --> 49:03.000]  If you do that voluntarily, willingly, then you're bound by the terms of that agreement.
[49:03.000 --> 49:08.840]  And if you refuse after the fact to let the public inspect your books, then you are in violation of
[49:08.840 --> 49:13.400]  the terms of the agreement, and the whole rule of law is going to come down on your head like a ton
[49:13.400 --> 49:19.800]  of bricks. So if you don't like the ramifications of the agreement, you need to carefully and
[49:19.800 --> 49:24.520]  thoroughly research all the terms of that agreement that you entered into, and if it turns
[49:24.520 --> 49:30.280]  out that you decide you don't like the terms of that agreement, then you need to terminate the
[49:30.280 --> 49:34.920]  agreement. But trying to say, oh, that's not fair, I shouldn't have to do that, and yet still hold on
[49:34.920 --> 49:39.560]  to the 501c3 at the same time, that ain't going to work. Can't have a cake and eat it too. So that's
[49:39.560 --> 49:46.840]  the long and short of the answer. Does that make sense? Oh, it certainly makes sense.
[49:46.840 --> 49:53.720]  In the particular case, I'm interested in what another 501c3 was doing and looking
[49:53.720 --> 49:59.400]  more deeply in their books. My books at this point are relatively simple because there isn't
[49:59.400 --> 50:05.640]  a whole lot that's happened, and we're making strides to put everything into an accounting
[50:05.640 --> 50:10.040]  package such that everything's scanned in, everything's entered, and I can just hand them
[50:10.040 --> 50:17.480]  a pile of data and say, here, go look it up, I don't care. The only thing that appears necessary
[50:18.120 --> 50:24.840]  as a public record is the IRS filings, and the IRS filings, and one particular one I went and looked
[50:24.840 --> 50:33.240]  at, went something like they pulled in $9.7 million, they spent nearly $4 million, and the only
[50:33.240 --> 50:40.440]  expenses as far as people were the CEO and the accountant, and then they claimed they had $3
[50:40.440 --> 50:47.800]  million worth of labor that they paid, and I'm going, well, that's quite a jump there, wonder how
[50:47.800 --> 50:55.800]  they worked that, and I have no real way that I'm aware of to bridge between what's at the IRS
[50:56.680 --> 51:01.800]  and what the rest of the books look like. Well, they may have legitimately paid $3 million
[51:01.800 --> 51:08.360]  out in contract labor. See, this is one thing that a lot of people don't know about concerning
[51:08.360 --> 51:14.840]  contract labor in the IRS. There is no requirement on corporations or anyone else to give a 1099
[51:14.840 --> 51:22.360]  for contract labor. They don't have to. All right, what the law says about 1099s and W9s is that
[51:22.360 --> 51:34.280]  a company or a corporation may, they are allowed to give a 1099 if the amount contracted was over
[51:34.280 --> 51:44.040]  $600, and if both parties agree, and if the person or the entity doing the labor is also a taxpayer,
[51:44.040 --> 51:51.960]  okay, because if they're not a taxpayer, there's no entity to give a 1099 to. Okay, so first things
[51:51.960 --> 51:57.960]  first. Is the entity that did the contract labor even a taxpayer? Because if they're not, then
[51:57.960 --> 52:05.080]  they can't be 1099. Okay, even if they are a taxpayer, are they agreeing ahead of time before
[52:05.080 --> 52:12.440]  the work is done to receive a 1099 from the entity? Because it's not going to fly for a
[52:12.440 --> 52:17.640]  contract worker to do the work, and then they do the work and the agreement is made that they're
[52:17.640 --> 52:21.720]  going to get paid a certain amount, and then after the work is done, the company says, oh, by the way,
[52:21.720 --> 52:26.120]  you have to fill out this W9 or else we're not going to give you your check. No, that's lawsuit
[52:26.120 --> 52:32.520]  time, because that wasn't part of the deal. It wasn't part of the agreement to fill out a W9 to
[52:32.520 --> 52:38.520]  get 1099. Okay, I've had to go through this before with other people that I've helped out, and the
[52:38.520 --> 52:43.880]  company always ends up losing because there is no law that requires the company who's doing the
[52:43.880 --> 52:49.400]  hiring to give a 1099, and hey, what do you want to do? Do you want to play ball or do you want
[52:49.400 --> 52:55.800]  to play ball? Do you want to spend $20,000 on lawyers over the fact that my friend here is not
[52:55.800 --> 53:02.280]  going to fill out a 1099 for $800 worth of work? Let's get it on, okay? Believe me, you'll win every
[53:02.280 --> 53:07.240]  time, but that's the bottom line with the 1099s. They're not required to give a 1099. They're not
[53:07.240 --> 53:12.360]  required to make any records of social security numbers. The people they're hiring may not even
[53:12.360 --> 53:18.200]  have one. There's no requirement that says that you have to contract with the taxpayer, okay? So
[53:18.200 --> 53:23.480]  if they claim $3 million or however much of contract labor, they may have legitimately paid
[53:23.480 --> 53:32.200]  it out, and sometimes there's just no way to prove it because, you know, if there's no checks written,
[53:32.200 --> 53:37.000]  if it was cash and they don't collect people's social security numbers, it's like, hey, the
[53:37.000 --> 53:43.240]  burden of proof is not on them to prove that they actually paid that money legitimately to the
[53:43.240 --> 53:49.640]  contract workers as they're claiming. The burden of proof is on the IRS or some other entity to
[53:49.640 --> 53:59.560]  prove that that money didn't get spent as they said it did, okay? Okay. And with what you said,
[54:00.520 --> 54:05.000]  let me step in just for a second. You said there's only a CEO and an accountant.
[54:05.000 --> 54:15.720]  It was probably that the only two individuals who were on the books of the corporation
[54:15.720 --> 54:23.320]  as an employee were the accountant and the CEO. Everybody else was a contract employee.
[54:23.320 --> 54:26.600]  Yeah, that's what he was saying. $3 million in contract pay.
[54:27.640 --> 54:33.000]  So they may have a great number of contract employees, but they won't show up
[54:33.000 --> 54:37.880]  as regular employees. Now, there is questions about who can be a contract employee and who can't,
[54:38.840 --> 54:46.200]  but that's a different issue. Deborah, what is the form that you prepare and file with the IRS
[54:46.200 --> 54:50.680]  to report suspected tax fraud? That I do not know.
[54:52.040 --> 54:58.280]  I want to say $39.89 or $79. Somebody will probably know. If you know what that form is,
[54:58.280 --> 55:03.000]  if you know what that form is, call in and we can get that. But again, this gets into a really
[55:03.000 --> 55:08.920]  sticky kind of a situation with the IRS when you're trying to point fingers about, well,
[55:08.920 --> 55:13.960]  where did that money really go and was it really paid to a contract? And I don't want to say
[55:13.960 --> 55:20.200]  employee because they're not employees of the contractors, okay? Again, there is no requirement
[55:20.200 --> 55:28.520]  for a company to demand a W-9 or to issue a 1099 for a contractor, period. All right? They are
[55:28.520 --> 55:35.000]  allowed to do it if it's by agreement and if the contractor is a taxpayer and if the amount is over
[55:35.000 --> 55:40.840]  $600 in one fiscal year. But all of those conditions have to apply. And see, what happens
[55:40.840 --> 55:46.920]  a lot of the time is these companies, they want to get a W-9, they want a 1099 everybody for
[55:46.920 --> 55:53.800]  everything, even $5, okay, if they're not an employee. You don't have to do that. The company
[55:53.800 --> 56:00.600]  attorneys have just put that policy in place in these companies to cover their legal behinds in
[56:00.600 --> 56:05.880]  case the IRS ever audits them because they have their chicken suits on and they don't want to have
[56:05.880 --> 56:12.440]  to tell the IRS, I don't have to 1099 my contractors. I'm not going to, so go shove it.
[56:12.440 --> 56:17.800]  They don't want to get into that kind of fight with the IRS. And so they just, as a company
[56:17.800 --> 56:23.480]  policy, they require the W-9s and 1099s, but it's not law. They don't have to do it. And if you
[56:23.480 --> 56:29.560]  really push the issue, if you're a company or an entity and you hire contractors and you don't 1099
[56:29.560 --> 56:34.680]  them and you don't, you know, require them to give you your social security number, et cetera,
[56:34.680 --> 56:39.320]  et cetera, and then on Schedule C you put, you know, however many tens or hundreds or millions
[56:39.320 --> 56:47.960]  of dollars of, of contract labor, if the IRS starts to get all, all, you know, in a wad about
[56:47.960 --> 56:53.960]  it, then you just, you just have to just stand strong and say, I know the law. I don't have to
[56:53.960 --> 56:59.800]  do it. Okay. Prove that that money went somewhere else, you know, and, and it gets into a fight.
[56:59.800 --> 57:04.920]  I've been through it before, but eventually the IRS backs down because it's not worth it to them,
[57:04.920 --> 57:11.400]  you know, but anyway, so that's the story about the 1099s. Okay. Yeah. The, the particular
[57:11.400 --> 57:17.640]  portion of the IRS form has to do with your most highly compensated individuals. They don't
[57:17.640 --> 57:23.480]  necessarily even have to be employees and such. It's just how much you've paid out and what the
[57:23.480 --> 57:31.400]  highest amounts were. And that all the money that went in and out, there were only two people listed
[57:31.400 --> 57:44.440]  there at 150,000 and 46,000 for the bookkeeper. But I was more interested in other things that a
[57:44.440 --> 57:51.720]  entirely different nonprofit had been spending money on. There's a voluntary, voluntary reporting
[57:51.720 --> 57:59.000]  scheme by a private company called Boardstar and one can submit their books there if they wish.
[57:59.000 --> 58:05.560]  Okay. Do you, do you have any more for us? No, no. I just wanted to know if there was
[58:06.360 --> 58:13.000]  some angle that I was unaware of on the nonprofit. Okay. There's none that we know of. We're about
[58:13.000 --> 58:19.560]  to go to our top of the hour break. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio.
[58:19.560 --> 58:28.600]  Our call-in number 512-646-1984. Paul, Rosanna, Sean, Terrace, I see you there. We will pick you
[58:28.600 --> 58:34.600]  up when we get back on the other side. If you have a comment or question, give us a call. It
[58:34.600 --> 58:39.960]  generally picks up more toward the end. So give us a call, get on the board and we will try to
[58:39.960 --> 58:50.680]  get to all of you. We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:00:50.040 --> 01:00:55.160]  the Peaceful Streets Project, Antonio Beeler, has struck back against the legal system and
[01:00:55.160 --> 01:01:00.280]  yet again won. Well, sort of won. Previously, Beeler was charged with the felony for spitting
[01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.920]  on a police officer, but charges were dismissed in April. This time, Beeler found himself at
[01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.840]  the mercy of the legal system yet again for exercising his First Amendment rights at a
[01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.120]  court watch in Gonzales, Texas. On March 13th, Beeler was exiting the courthouse premises when
[01:01:14.120 --> 01:01:19.400]  a police officer told him if he returned, he would face criminal charges. Beeler told the officer to
[01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:24.440]  go F himself and was subsequently arrested. Yesterday, Beeler represented himself in the
[01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:29.560]  Gonzales courtroom for a trial that lasted seven hours. The judge who oversaw the trial was the
[01:01:29.560 --> 01:01:34.200]  same judge who on March 13th had confiscated Beeler's camera and threatened him with arrest
[01:01:34.200 --> 01:01:39.480]  for filming in her courtroom. Even though two of the six jurors had police officers in their
[01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.760]  families, the trial concluded with a guilty verdict and a one dollar fine as a penalty.
[01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:48.600]  Beeler, who represented himself, used jury nullification and an appeal to the First
[01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:57.800]  Amendment as a defense. Beeler plans to appeal the one dollar fine.
[01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:03.000]  The Guardian has obtained a copy of a court order issued by the National Security Agency that allows
[01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:07.720]  the agency to collect telephone records from millions of Verizon customers. Specifically,
[01:02:07.720 --> 01:02:13.160]  the order, which was approved by FISA courts, requires Verizon on an ongoing daily basis to
[01:02:13.160 --> 01:02:18.840]  give the NSA information on all telephone calls and its systems both within the U.S. and between
[01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:23.880]  the U.S. and other countries. The NSA has access to the phone number of both parties on a call,
[01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.240]  location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls.
[01:02:29.240 --> 01:02:33.800]  The Guardian contacted the White House for comment and so far the White House has declined.
[01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:41.240]  On Wednesday, the New York State Senate passed Senate Bill 2402, which would make it a felony
[01:02:41.240 --> 01:02:46.440]  to annoy a police officer. The original language of the bill made it a crime to harass, annoy,
[01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:51.560]  threaten, or alarm an officer while on duty. The updated text, however, requires harassment
[01:02:51.560 --> 01:03:05.800]  while subjecting an officer to any physical contact. The bill now heads to the State Assembly.
[01:03:21.560 --> 01:03:36.440]  All right, we are back, folks. The rule of law, this is June 6,
[01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:41.480]  Thursday, 2013. I'm Deborah Stevens here with Randy Kelton. We've got a lot of calls on the
[01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:47.080]  board we're about to go to, but man, I just got to make a comment on this news piece that I just
[01:03:47.080 --> 01:03:53.560]  heard at the top of the hour news, that they're trying to pass a law to make it a felony to annoy
[01:03:53.560 --> 01:03:59.400]  a police officer. I mean, you got to be kidding me. That is so subjective. All right. At least
[01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:03.720]  they're trying to put the stipulation in there that there has to be some kind of contact,
[01:04:03.720 --> 01:04:09.960]  you know, but come on, I'm annoyed so you're committing a felony. They ought to make it a
[01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:15.320]  felony for the police to annoy us. Okay. I mean, this is ridiculous. This goes to all this hate
[01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:22.360]  crimes and the hate speech and the subjective and, oh, you're committing a crime if somebody
[01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:30.040]  else feels bad. If you hurt someone's feelings, if you bother them, it's a felony. I mean, come
[01:04:30.040 --> 01:04:37.000]  on, that is so babyish. That is just so childish. I can't even believe that the police would want
[01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.160]  a law like that or that they would even lobby for such a thing. That is just disgraceful.
[01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:44.840]  I wouldn't even, if I was a police officer, I wouldn't want such a law. That, that is,
[01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:52.040]  that is just, that, that is, uh, infantile, infantilizing, I just made up a word,
[01:04:52.040 --> 01:04:56.840]  uh, the police. It's like turning them into children. It's like, oh, you're a police officer.
[01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:03.240]  Oh, I feel bad. Oh, I'm annoyed. Oh, it's a felony. I mean, you gotta be kidding me.
[01:05:03.240 --> 01:05:06.680]  You gotta be kidding me. Randy, what's your comment on this? This is ridiculous. This is
[01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:14.200]  just disgraceful. Well, if they want to do that, then it should be a felony for a police officer to
[01:05:14.200 --> 01:05:25.320]  touch or annoy a person who is not yet under arrest. Like when the police officer at Williamson
[01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:31.000]  County was pushing me backwards in the chair and I pushed his hand off my chest. He arrested me
[01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:41.240]  for assault. So turnabout's fair play. They wanted a felony for a policeman, for a person to annoy a
[01:05:41.240 --> 01:05:47.240]  policeman. It should be a felony for a policeman to annoy a person. It's just ridiculous to have
[01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:52.600]  all these laws that it's a felony to annoy somebody, whichever side of the coin it is.
[01:05:52.600 --> 01:06:01.480]  I mean, I just, I cannot believe how, how infantile and immature our society has become that the
[01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:06.600]  Congress would even consider such a thing. It's illegal to hurt my feelings. I mean,
[01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:10.840]  you just gotta be kidding me. Anyway, enough of the commentary. It's just, it's sick. We
[01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:14.360]  gotta do something about it. Okay. Uh, you want to go on with the calls, Randy?
[01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:19.080]  Yes, I do. Uh, let's try to get back to some grownups,
[01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:24.200]  grownup stuff here. Some, some real, real world business. All right. We got Paul in Texas. Go
[01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:30.120]  ahead, Randy. Go ahead, Paul. You have a question or comment?
[01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:38.280]  Yes, sir. I was basically a public, uh, awareness, I guess that today I was listening to C-SPAN and
[01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:44.840]  a chairwoman today, Ms. Mikulski had mentioned that they should consider looking into what the
[01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:52.360]  Department of Justice of, uh, sending some of our felons who are in prison here in the States
[01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:57.960]  overseas or abroad to consider, you know, something that we should do. That infuriated me.
[01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:03.080]  That, that goes with what y'all were mentioning right now. I mean, you know, we're ranting about
[01:07:04.040 --> 01:07:08.120]  how they were mistreating them, but yet now they're considering sending our prisoners
[01:07:08.120 --> 01:07:14.440]  to Paris or Yemen, but just something they're, they're conspiring. That's something we should
[01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.760]  consider doing in the future. What do you think about that?
[01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:24.120]  Let me see if I understand this. You're saying that they're considering taking
[01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:31.960]  prisoners that are United States citizens and housing them in foreign countries?
[01:07:33.080 --> 01:07:36.920]  That is right. That sounds like a conspiracy, doesn't it? The center of Barbara
[01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:42.760]  Mikulski from Maryland, uh, she was the head woman of the Justice Department oversight and
[01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:47.400]  budget committee today. And she mentioned that, that they shouldn't start considering making plans.
[01:07:48.520 --> 01:07:51.320]  That's furious. I mean, I just, whew, I got livid.
[01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:56.600]  Now are these, is she talking about specifically people that they would label as terrorists
[01:07:56.600 --> 01:07:59.000]  or enemy combatants, or they're just saying anybody?
[01:07:59.560 --> 01:08:05.720]  No. Yes. Anybody. She said that about, uh, 27% of our prisoners locked up in prison
[01:08:05.720 --> 01:08:11.080]  are, they're basically non-violent. They're not terrorists. So they're not going to release in,
[01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:18.600]  in Paris or France or in Yemen, but to consider sending them abroad so they can just do their
[01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:24.440]  time. And then I guess bring them back. Do their time in a prison in a foreign country
[01:08:24.440 --> 01:08:28.120]  or just send them on a vacation? Yes, ma'am. No, no. Yes, ma'am.
[01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:33.000]  No. So to put them in prison in a foreign country?
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:37.640]  Well, to do their time. So we have our prisoners, they, you know, they're doing 10, 15,
[01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:42.040]  I don't know. I'm just... And why is she saying this? What is the point?
[01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:49.240]  Well, I have no idea. I guess to save some money. It's once again, she was the
[01:08:49.240 --> 01:08:55.080]  chief woman today, Justice Department oversight and budget committee of Maryland.
[01:08:55.080 --> 01:09:08.680]  Well, we often get public officials who are, have no sense about politics. Is she kidding?
[01:09:10.280 --> 01:09:15.960]  No, she's getting, she's getting paid. Okay. I guarantee you all of these politicians,
[01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:21.080]  the, it has nothing to do with whether or not they have a political sense or even common sense.
[01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:25.800]  That's not even the issue. Most of the time they know exactly what they're doing. They're getting
[01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.840]  paid to do it. That's called sophism. Okay. Where they, they know what's going on. They know the
[01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:35.480]  difference between right and wrong. And they're choosing to go down the wrong path anyway,
[01:09:35.480 --> 01:09:39.560]  because they're getting paid to do it. That's called sophism. Most of our politicians are sophists.
[01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:48.440]  Even for someone to consider something like this, the legal quagmire that would create have,
[01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:55.480]  they have got to be kidding. We would be in one, the lawsuits would never stop.
[01:09:55.480 --> 01:10:01.000]  Some, some defense contractor, you know, a private prison system is paying her to make this,
[01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  this proposal. Guaranteed. Something like Wacken Hut. Wacken Hut, where, you know,
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:12.120]  what's going to happen when we send people over to a prison out of country?
[01:10:12.120 --> 01:10:21.320]  Now, do they become subject to the laws of that country? Can I be sent to Yemen where I'm subject
[01:10:21.320 --> 01:10:29.400]  to Sharia law? When I'm an American citizen and had no intention to go to Yemen?
[01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:35.480]  Well, if you're locked up in a Yemen prison, I mean, it's, what are you going to do?
[01:10:35.480 --> 01:10:41.240]  I can't, you know, that's probably some, some moron set off the top of their head, but you know,
[01:10:41.240 --> 01:10:48.280]  I can't even see the, the administration wanting something like this because this is just major
[01:10:48.280 --> 01:10:54.120]  misery for everybody. Oh, that's major lawsuits. That was, that was the public awareness of the day.
[01:10:54.120 --> 01:10:56.120]  Thank you. All right. Well, thanks, Paul.
[01:10:56.120 --> 01:11:03.720]  Yeah. Keep us on top of this nonsense that's going on. Okay. We're going to go to Rosanna in Ohio.
[01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.120]  Hello, Ms. Rosanna. Hi, Randy and Deborah.
[01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.600]  Hey, Rosanna. There's a lot of echo on your end. Are you on a speakerphone?
[01:11:13.480 --> 01:11:17.640]  No, I've got my earpiece on. Okay. Well, maybe you could just get the,
[01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.840]  the, the microphone a little bit closer. Okay. Okay.
[01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:26.920]  Well, maybe you could just get the, the, the microphone a little bit closer to your mouth
[01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.520]  or something. Cause it sounds real echo. We were having a hard time understanding you.
[01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:35.560]  Turn the sound down in your ear. So it's not leaking.
[01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:39.000]  It just sounds like the microphone is like six feet away. That's all.
[01:11:40.040 --> 01:11:44.920]  Is that better? A little bit better. Yeah. Not that much though.
[01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:49.960]  I kind of want my hands free, but if it's not, then let me know. Okay. Okay. Okay.
[01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:52.840]  I've got lots of papers in front of me. Okay. Go ahead, please.
[01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:59.640]  Well, Randy, I've spoke with you before about this situation and what started off with my mom's
[01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:04.680]  murder. And then I ended up in probate to get my father cause he's got dementia and he's mentally
[01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:14.040]  impaired. And this lawyer has milked $250,000 out of my parents' estate. And this is just the
[01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:21.160]  perfect scam. I mean, it really is. At any rate, um, I've, uh, I, I spoke with you and who was on
[01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:25.160]  the phone with you last Friday? Um, Steve Skidmore.
[01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:32.200]  Yes. And I told you that, um, I put an affidavit of disqualification into the Supreme court
[01:12:33.480 --> 01:12:40.600]  and inside that I, uh, I put an exhibit as my motion to reopen my first guardianship case
[01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:44.840]  because of all the fraud I found out that was going on in that case. And I didn't know about
[01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:52.040]  until recently, which is new evidence, 60 B. And we talked about that a little bit. And, um,
[01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:57.240]  when we were talking about office and all these criminal codes that I put in my, my motion to
[01:12:57.240 --> 01:13:03.160]  reopen my first guardianship case, not only did I write the statutes for the guardianship cases
[01:13:03.160 --> 01:13:10.760]  that they violated, but I put the criminal code, the perjury, the, um, uh, trampling with evidence.
[01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:16.760]  And I mean, I must have eight of them listed in here, 10 of them to reopen this, um, first
[01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:24.280]  guardianship case to have it, you know, basically run over again, run through again. But, um,
[01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:30.360]  you were going to, as we were talking last week, we were going to, I was going to also file criminal
[01:13:30.360 --> 01:13:35.720]  charges. We were talking about filing criminal complaint charges, which I've talked to you about
[01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:41.560]  in the past, but since I've got these criminal codes loaded in my motion to reopen my guardianship,
[01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:48.040]  then I can, I have the codes already and I can just put them on the criminal complaint form.
[01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:52.760]  And you were talking about going into the jury. You said you were going to talk about
[01:13:52.760 --> 01:14:04.120]  undoing due process tonight? Yes. Okay. I probably did, but I've slept since then.
[01:14:04.120 --> 01:14:12.120]  Yes. Oh, that's, I do remember talking about the complaint issue and now that you've mentioned it,
[01:14:12.120 --> 01:14:20.600]  I did want to talk about due process. In Ohio, do they have grand, do you have grand juries in Ohio?
[01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:29.080]  Yeah. Oh, sure. Oh, wonderful. Have you read the, you'll have a criminal procedure code
[01:14:29.080 --> 01:14:34.200]  and they'll have a section there for duties of grand jurors.
[01:14:34.200 --> 01:14:37.720]  Absolutely. Have you read that? Yes, I have.
[01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.400]  What does it state is the duty of the grand jury?
[01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:49.960]  Well, if you're talking about the part where they have to look at-
[01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:52.920]  Okay, hold on, hold on. I'll give you an example. Okay.
[01:14:52.920 --> 01:15:00.440]  Colorado says it shall be the duty of the grand jury to examine into all criminal accusations
[01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:08.200]  that come to their knowledge by whatever means. In Texas, it says the grand jury shall examine
[01:15:08.200 --> 01:15:13.960]  into all criminal accusations that come but to their knowledge by way of their own personal
[01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:22.280]  knowledge by the prosecuting attorney or any credible person. You will have a similar statute.
[01:15:22.280 --> 01:15:27.560]  I've already looked it up in Ohio and it says, I'll read it to you. Do you solemnly swear or
[01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:33.800]  affirm that you will diligently inquire into and carefully deliberate all matters that shall
[01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:40.600]  come to your attention concerning this service? So, good. It's essentially the same. Okay.
[01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:51.880]  Now, this is about politics. I'll talk about the rule of law and the way things really work.
[01:15:53.320 --> 01:15:59.880]  The rule of law is clear. Somebody violates the law, then, and the complaint is made to
[01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:07.240]  a complaint is made to the grand jury. What the grand jury is to determine is whether or not
[01:16:07.240 --> 01:16:15.080]  there is sufficient evidence to give a reasonable person of ordinary prudence cause to believe
[01:16:15.080 --> 01:16:21.480]  that a crime has been committed and that the name person has committed that crime.
[01:16:21.480 --> 01:16:31.400]  It only goes to probable cause or reason to believe, and in a nutshell, that's 50-50.
[01:16:31.400 --> 01:16:39.560]  If they have a 51% consideration, they indict. If they have a 49, they don't indict.
[01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.960]  Okay. We will pick this up when we come back on the other side. This is Randy
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[01:19:16.440 --> 01:19:23.080]  Ain't gonna blind me, don't bore me.
[01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:41.400]  Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. I was blindsided but now I can see your
[01:19:41.400 --> 01:19:50.840]  plan. You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my land. Ain't gonna fool me with that same old
[01:19:50.840 --> 01:20:14.200]  trick again. Ain't gonna hold me. Ain't gonna drive me insane.
[01:20:14.200 --> 01:20:18.840]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rude of La Radio and we're talking to
[01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:30.040]  Ozanna in Ohio. Okay, the procedure. If you file a criminal complaint against a public official,
[01:20:32.200 --> 01:20:35.880]  the prosecutor will get it and he'll throw it in the trash.
[01:20:37.160 --> 01:20:43.880]  Or he will send you back this very pleasant letter saying, I have examined into your accusation
[01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:53.000]  and decided to take no action. So far in every state I've looked at, there is, except Pennsylvania,
[01:20:54.760 --> 01:21:03.320]  there is nothing that gives a prosecutor discretion. Although the courts have,
[01:21:03.320 --> 01:21:12.760]  as a matter of judicial economy and adjudicative expediency, have allowed the prosecutors to
[01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:18.760]  exercise a certain amount of discretion. And it won't do us any good to argue about that.
[01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:27.080]  But what we will do is, and I suggest that people file criminal charges, I never ever suggest you
[01:21:27.080 --> 01:21:34.120]  file one frivolously. And when you're dealing with public officials, you never ever have to.
[01:21:36.120 --> 01:21:41.560]  I've talked to people about this before, and you kind of touched on it earlier that you got
[01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:50.440]  eight. My concern is that you haven't looked very hard. Eddie Craig does our Monday night show and
[01:21:50.440 --> 01:21:57.000]  we brought him on as a host after he had called in to the show a few times and we talked to him.
[01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:02.760]  And he called in because he was having issues and he did all the legal research, but he couldn't get
[01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:07.240]  any remedies. So he called looking for remedy and I suggested he file criminal charges. So he went
[01:22:07.240 --> 01:22:12.280]  back through everything that went on and he called us and he said, he did what we said, he'd file
[01:22:12.280 --> 01:22:17.560]  some criminal charges. Well, how many did you file? Deborah, what was that?
[01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:24.360]  Four hundred and sixteen? Yeah, something like that.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:31.080]  Something like that. And I said, well, why did you hold back? He said, I ran out of paper.
[01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:39.400]  And the point is, if you only found eight, there's a lot more. You never have to
[01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:46.440]  stretch to get a criminal complaint to file, especially anything to do with the courts
[01:22:48.200 --> 01:22:55.640]  and lawyers. Lawyers seem to think that the law belongs to them. H.G. Wells in his outline of
[01:22:55.640 --> 01:23:01.800]  history on speaking to the corruption of the popes during the Dark Ages. And before the Catholics
[01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:06.200]  start calling me and complaining, I'm not addressing the Catholic Church, I'm addressing
[01:23:06.200 --> 01:23:11.160]  corruption. And that's what H.G. Wells was addressing. Last time I mentioned this, I got to
[01:23:11.160 --> 01:23:20.120]  complain about it. But he said, the giver of the law most owes the law allegiance. He of all beings
[01:23:20.120 --> 01:23:25.720]  should behave as though the law compels him. But it is the universal failing of mankind
[01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:34.840]  that what we are given to administer, we promptly presume we own. And this is the case with judges
[01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:44.120]  and lawyers. They do what they want to do. I think that's a little facetious. They tend,
[01:23:44.120 --> 01:23:53.400]  for the most part, to do what they think is expedient. I don't consider most judges and
[01:23:53.400 --> 01:24:02.120]  prosecutors as totally corrupt. Most people, we have this genetic need to be good guys to do the
[01:24:02.120 --> 01:24:06.840]  right things. But these guys who are in the courts all the time, they tend to start taking
[01:24:07.400 --> 01:24:12.280]  shortcuts and cutting corners. And they cut one corner and they cut it again, cut it again,
[01:24:12.280 --> 01:24:16.120]  cut it again. After a while, it doesn't look anything like what the book says. And that's the
[01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:21.560]  condition we're in now. They're doing what they always do. It's just as illegal as it can be.
[01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:27.960]  With all that said, you file a complaint against the prosecutor. He's going to look at it and say,
[01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:32.600]  you're complaining about these people doing what all my buddy lawyers have been doing,
[01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:35.560]  what I did when I was a lawyer. I'm not going to prosecute these guys.
[01:24:37.080 --> 01:24:39.800]  So then you go against the prosecutor and that's the one you want.
[01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:49.160]  You will not win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:24:49.160 --> 01:24:56.840]  You win your case if you can get the politics on your side. And the criminal complaints are about
[01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:03.560]  politics. So you file your complaint with the prosecutor and the prosecutor, in order to have
[01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:09.640]  plausible deniability, so he's not going to prosecute. And if you object, he's going to be
[01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:15.880]  able to say, well, we investigated into your accusation. And the way he'll do that is he'll
[01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:22.120]  send his investigators out to talk to this person. They'll say, hey, I got this guy wants me to arrest
[01:25:22.120 --> 01:25:27.560]  you. You want to tell me why I shouldn't arrest you. And whatever they tell him, he'll go for it.
[01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:34.120]  That's his excuse. He'll decide not to act. Well, when he decides not to act,
[01:25:35.240 --> 01:25:41.640]  then what we do is make up a complaint against the prosecutor for official misconduct by
[01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:48.920]  misfeasance in office. Misfeasance in that he failed to perform a duty he is required to
[01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:56.360]  perform. And he's going to say that he exercised discretion. But in our complaint, we will state
[01:25:56.360 --> 01:26:01.160]  that we understand that a prosecutor is given a certain amount of discretion.
[01:26:03.080 --> 01:26:09.640]  But he is not given caprice. He is given discretion to determine if there is sufficient
[01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:13.960]  evidence to give a reasonable person of ordinary prudence cause to believe that a crime has been
[01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:21.480]  committed by the person named. He is not given the caprice to decide who he wants to prosecute
[01:26:21.480 --> 01:26:28.680]  and who he does not want to prosecute. That's an abuse of office official misconduct. And he filed
[01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:34.920]  a complaint against him for official misconduct. Well, he's going to feel bushwhacked. And
[01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:41.880]  depending on how the state is structured, if your attorney general has prosecutorial powers,
[01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:45.480]  you filed a criminal complaint with the attorney general.
[01:26:46.440 --> 01:26:51.320]  And the attorney general is going to sit his investigator down to talk to the prosecuting
[01:26:51.320 --> 01:26:56.040]  attorney and say, hey, I got this guy here who's trying to get me to arrest you. You
[01:26:56.040 --> 01:27:01.560]  ought to tell me why I shouldn't. And prosecutor is going to feed him a little song and dance and
[01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:06.520]  seltzer down your pants. And then the attorney general is going to send you this very pleasant
[01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:11.080]  letter saying we examined into your accusation, decided to take no action or something to that
[01:27:11.080 --> 01:27:18.200]  effect. Then you file against the attorney general. You come back and file against the
[01:27:18.200 --> 01:27:26.680]  attorney general with a local judge. Now, my suggestion is never, ever let them see you.
[01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:34.680]  Do everything by mail. Preferably certified, restricted.
[01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:41.080]  If you send something to the grand jury, make sure it's restricted. If you send it to other
[01:27:41.080 --> 01:27:47.080]  officials, it can just be certified. This way, they never get to see you. If they want you to
[01:27:47.080 --> 01:27:55.960]  come down to their office and talk to them, absolutely not. Never go down in office and
[01:27:55.960 --> 01:28:02.760]  down in amongst the den of thieves. They are lying scoundrels. They make up any story they want to.
[01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:10.760]  Have them meet you somewhere neutral. If they come to your house, make sure they do not come
[01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:17.320]  into your house with a pistol on. I did that to my local sheriff and he just had a fit.
[01:28:17.320 --> 01:28:22.760]  I let the chief of police in. They wanted to talk to me about something, some complaints I'd filed
[01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:30.040]  against the district judge. And I told him, well, you can come in, but no pistols, no guns.
[01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:34.520]  And Tom, come on in. Tom was the chief of police. And will you let him come in with a gun?
[01:28:35.080 --> 01:28:41.400]  Yeah, trust him. I don't trust you. So the sheriff huffed and puffed and got in his car and left.
[01:28:43.400 --> 01:28:51.160]  You make them take their pistol off. They feel naked. It's a great trick. If they want to talk
[01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:57.880]  to you, meet them in a restaurant somewhere. Take two recorders with you. Because I'm telling you,
[01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:04.600]  these guys are accomplished testoliers. Put one on the table in front of you and if he asks you
[01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:11.640]  to shut it off, absolutely no problem, shut it off. Just don't tell him about the other one.
[01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:19.240]  And when they think they've gotten you to shut your recorder off, it emboldens them. We had
[01:29:19.240 --> 01:29:25.560]  someone play on the air the tape of two police officers trying to figure out how to erase the
[01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:34.280]  recording on the first device. Okay. We're about to go to break. We have a lot of callers and I
[01:29:34.280 --> 01:29:39.720]  hate to hold everybody up, but this is too good a subject. If I can't get to you folks tonight,
[01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:44.360]  give us a call tomorrow night. We have a four hour show and we'll have plenty of time then. But
[01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:49.880]  this is due process. And frankly, it's my favorite subject. This is Randy
[01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:54.360]  Calvin, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:33:27.400 --> 01:33:52.520]  Okay, we are back. I'm Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. And we're talking
[01:33:52.520 --> 01:34:01.800]  about the politics of criminal complaints and how to work the system. You start out by sending
[01:34:01.800 --> 01:34:08.120]  a complaint to the prosecuting attorney and giving him notice that someone has violated
[01:34:08.120 --> 01:34:13.480]  the law rate or somebody's committed a crime. And he will send his investigator out to talk
[01:34:13.480 --> 01:34:20.760]  to these people. Now, this is gonna scare the bejesus out of them. Now, they're pretty sure
[01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:25.080]  that the prosecutor is not gonna prosecute him because he's one of their buddies and one of their
[01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:30.280]  fraternity, and they don't tend to go after each other on these kind of issues. It's gonna scare
[01:34:30.280 --> 01:34:36.920]  them anyway because the grand jury is something out of everybody's control. They like to think
[01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:40.840]  they can control it. And about the time they think they can, the grand jury does something
[01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:45.800]  to let them know that they can't. So they're, for the most part, afraid of grand juries.
[01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:51.880]  And that's the reason our founders put grand juries in there. So this will frighten the
[01:34:51.880 --> 01:35:00.120]  other side. But what'll get you more is when the prosecutor refuses to act, then you accuse the
[01:35:00.120 --> 01:35:05.800]  prosecutor of misfeasance in office and failing to perform a duty he's required to perform.
[01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:15.000]  And every state has a statute of this nature because most of the states adopted the model
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:21.800]  penal code put out by the federal government. It was kind of a general overview of all of the
[01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:30.360]  states in order to stabilize the laws across the different states. So if you go from Ohio to
[01:35:30.360 --> 01:35:35.880]  Illinois, what was illegal in Ohio will most likely be illegal in Illinois. So you kind of
[01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:44.280]  understand what the law is. Well, based on that, 18 US Code 242, every state has a statute that
[01:35:44.280 --> 01:35:53.160]  reflects 18 US Code 242. That is the Ku Klux Klan Act. Ku Klux Klan Act allows people to sue public
[01:35:53.160 --> 01:36:00.200]  officials, 42 US Code 1983. That is the second half of the Ku Klux Klan Act. The first part
[01:36:00.200 --> 01:36:05.800]  is 18 US Code 242, that if a public official acting under the color of their authority,
[01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:14.120]  color meaning pretense, if they exert or purport to exert an authority they do not expressly have
[01:36:14.120 --> 01:36:20.840]  or fail to perform a duty they're required to perform, that's a Class A misdemeanor in the Fed.
[01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:29.560]  It is in Texas and in most every state I've ever been to. So the prosecuting attorney has a duty
[01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:36.600]  to prosecute. If he refuses to prosecute, you accuse him of misfeasance in office and let him
[01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:42.920]  explain it to a grand jury. You can be sure. When he explains it to a grand jury, they'll agree with
[01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:53.000]  him. They won't prosecute. So no harm, no foul. So you file that with the attorney general
[01:36:54.440 --> 01:37:00.600]  and ask him to prosecute. The prosecutor can't do it or nobody in his office can do it. They would
[01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:06.440]  all be disqualified. So he asked the attorney general to do it. And he's going to refuse.
[01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:11.160]  Then you file against the attorney general. When you file criminal charges against the attorney
[01:37:11.160 --> 01:37:17.080]  general accusing him of misfeasance in office, he is going to be a very unhappy camper.
[01:37:18.120 --> 01:37:25.240]  And it's not because he's concerned with getting indicted. It's because he knows when he runs for
[01:37:25.240 --> 01:37:31.080]  office again, his opponents likely to drag out those criminal complaints and wave them in front
[01:37:31.080 --> 01:37:35.800]  of his constituents and say, see what the citizens have to do to get the attorney general to do his
[01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:43.000]  job. And he's going to say, oh, all those complaints, oh, they were frivolous. The problem
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:51.480]  he has is everything is political and perception is everything. It doesn't matter if they're valid,
[01:37:51.480 --> 01:37:59.640]  invalid makes no difference. It looks bad. And the attorney general is not going to be happy
[01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:05.720]  incurring this political liability in order to protect the local prosecutor.
[01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:10.600]  So he's going to go put the screws on the prosecutor. And what do you think the prosecutor
[01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:16.920]  is going to do to the people you file the charges against? It's about politics. When the prosecutor
[01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:21.640]  doesn't do his job, you file criminal charges with a local district judge, highest level judge
[01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:28.680]  you can find. You mail them to him the same way. And the judge will send you back this very kindly
[01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:34.040]  letter explaining to you how you really need to file this with the police department.
[01:38:36.200 --> 01:38:41.880]  Wonderful. Now you charge him with misfeasance in office for failing to perform his duty as a
[01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:49.320]  magistrate. All judges are magistrates. And when a magistrate hasn't made known to him that a
[01:38:49.320 --> 01:38:54.600]  crime's been committed, he has a duty to convene an examining trial, examining the sufficiency of
[01:38:54.600 --> 01:39:01.720]  the sufficiency of the allegation. That's how judges issue warrants. They hold an examining
[01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:06.280]  trial. They haven't made known to them that a crime's been committed. They issue a warrant
[01:39:06.280 --> 01:39:09.880]  for the arrest of the accused after making a determination of probable cause.
[01:39:11.160 --> 01:39:17.160]  You send a complaint against the attorney general to a local district judge and he refuses to hold
[01:39:17.160 --> 01:39:22.680]  an examining trial. That's misfeasance in office. It denies you the equal protection of the laws.
[01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:27.880]  You send a complaint to the grand jury, addressed to the foreman,
[01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:36.520]  registered, restricted, charging the district judge with misfeasance in office for failing
[01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:43.240]  to hold an examining trial on a complaint against the attorney general because he refused
[01:39:43.240 --> 01:39:50.120]  to prosecute the prosecuting attorney. Everybody's going to be a really unhappy camper.
[01:39:50.120 --> 01:39:57.960]  If anybody says anything to you about it, you file charges against them. Especially
[01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:03.960]  if someone warns you that you can get in trouble doing this.
[01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:11.240]  Now you hope the one who does that is one of these stupid investigators with a pistol on his hip.
[01:40:11.240 --> 01:40:17.080]  They do that to me. Somebody with a pistol warned me that I can get in trouble for doing what the
[01:40:17.080 --> 01:40:25.320]  law commands me to do. That always gets a 911 call. And this jury generate more politics than
[01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:33.160]  anything. I live next to city hall in a small town in Texas. I had a, there was a new police
[01:40:33.160 --> 01:40:39.000]  officer came up to me. I was doing some plastic work. I was doing a lot of work. I was doing
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:43.800]  came up to me. I was doing some plastic welding on a tank and it was during a drought. We had a
[01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:51.000]  fire ban on. He told me I couldn't have his fire and I assured him I could. And he said, no, no,
[01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:55.480]  you can't have that open flame. And I said, wait a minute. This is a joke, right? Oh no,
[01:40:55.480 --> 01:41:02.520]  Mr. Kelton. I'm not joking. Wait a minute. That district judge, John Fostell sent you down here
[01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:09.000]  to harass me, didn't he? Just because I filed one crummy little complaint against him with
[01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:15.640]  the attorney general, he sent you down here to harass me, didn't he? This officer took a step
[01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:22.040]  back, held up both hands with his palms out. Just one moment, sir. Took out his cell phone,
[01:41:22.040 --> 01:41:28.280]  called the chief of police. Chief of police about 30 seconds later stepped out of his office,
[01:41:28.280 --> 01:41:36.200]  Randy, what are you doing to my new officer? I said, Tom, heck, I was just jerking his chain.
[01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:44.680]  And this police officer said, God, I saw my whole career flashed before my eyes.
[01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:50.520]  The thought that I would file criminal charges against the district judge,
[01:41:52.120 --> 01:41:55.960]  accusing the district judge of sending this guy out to harass me.
[01:41:55.960 --> 01:42:01.960]  When the district judge had absolutely nothing to do with it, the district judge is going to go
[01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:13.720]  ballistic on this officer. And this officer knew it. You create a lot of politics really
[01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:19.160]  fast with this procedure. And the only way they can get you off of them criminally
[01:42:19.160 --> 01:42:25.560]  is to give you your case. Now, never, ever mention the criminal complaints in the civil action.
[01:42:26.440 --> 01:42:32.600]  If the other side mentions the criminal complaint, you object. Those are matters
[01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:36.440]  for the prosecuting attorney. They have no place in this civil action.
[01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:45.720]  And if they say anything that you could in any way take as threatening,
[01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:52.920]  even if it is couched in a fair warning, tampering with a witness obstruction of justice.
[01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:59.880]  And in most states, those are felonies. This will get their attention really fast,
[01:43:00.440 --> 01:43:07.720]  and you will become the pro se from hell. And the only way they can handle you is to give you
[01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:17.640]  a ruling that you can't pass up. And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
[01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:23.160]  Okay, we got about 40 seconds before break. I still got you muted. Okay, Rosanna.
[01:43:25.160 --> 01:43:29.720]  Okay, hold on. We're about to go to break. I'll pick up your questions on the other side.
[01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:33.400]  And I'm sorry, we do need to move quickly. We've got one more segment.
[01:43:33.400 --> 01:43:38.920]  And I only got four more calls. So we ought to be able to cruise through those. Okay.
[01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:44.760]  Hang on, Rosanna. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:50.520]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:40.440]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:46:40.440 --> 01:46:45.400]  and we're talking to Roseanne in Ohio. Roseanne, did that make sense?
[01:46:46.200 --> 01:46:51.880]  It did, but I've got some things I really want to ask you about this because it will fit into this,
[01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:56.840]  of course. But now in my... You said don't mix the two. When I reopen my...
[01:46:58.040 --> 01:47:01.640]  Okay, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yours is a very complex case.
[01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:03.400]  It kind of is. Yeah.
[01:47:03.400 --> 01:47:06.760]  Can you call in tomorrow when we have four hours?
[01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:13.160]  I'll have more time to address it. I've got four more callers who've been waiting
[01:47:14.360 --> 01:47:18.440]  quite a while. And have you sent me a timeline on your issue?
[01:47:18.440 --> 01:47:23.000]  I just sent you my affidavit of disqualification last week with the motion in it.
[01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:29.800]  Does it have a timeline in it? I think it's timed out pretty well.
[01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:36.280]  I like to put things in order. Okay, yeah. Everyone should keep a timeline
[01:47:36.280 --> 01:47:43.400]  of whatever their issue is. And it has no arguments, no explanations. This happened,
[01:47:43.400 --> 01:47:46.680]  this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened. I asked someone in California
[01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:53.080]  to send me one of those. He sent me a 30-page timeline. I cut it out and dropped it right
[01:47:53.080 --> 01:47:59.640]  in his documents as a statement of facts. It's perfect. But with a timeline, then I
[01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:04.920]  can keep track of what's going on. These issues are emotional for you and you'll tend
[01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:10.840]  to go from one high point to the next, to the next, to the next. And our problem is
[01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:15.480]  listening is we don't have referential index for all of those. We don't understand
[01:48:15.480 --> 01:48:21.480]  how they all fit together. You understand it intuitively. And because it's emotional,
[01:48:21.480 --> 01:48:26.120]  you tend not to give us all of the information we need so it makes sense to us. And I wind
[01:48:26.120 --> 01:48:32.600]  up asking you a ton of questions just to establish context. If I have a timeline, then I can
[01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:34.520]  look through it and I know exactly where you're at.
[01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:40.600]  Well, I do want to ask you one thing before we get off to right now. Since I sent a motion
[01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:47.160]  to reopen my guardianship in there, I was going to amend it because I put these criminal
[01:48:47.160 --> 01:48:52.280]  charges along with the statutes of the guardianship in there. I was going to amend it to demand
[01:48:52.280 --> 01:48:57.960]  a trial by jury. Okay. The criminal charges have nothing to
[01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:06.200]  do with the civil. The criminal charges can only be included as exhibits and I would only
[01:49:06.200 --> 01:49:13.320]  include them if I've already filed them. Otherwise, they may come back at you and accuse
[01:49:13.320 --> 01:49:20.200]  you of attempting to use criminal charges to influence a civil action and they always
[01:49:20.200 --> 01:49:27.720]  object to that. So I tend to advise that you don't put the criminal complaint in there,
[01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:39.720]  that you allege the criminal act and a resulting civil tort. Let's talk about that tomorrow.
[01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:48.040]  They can actually sanction you for using criminal to gain advantage in civil. So I tend to advise
[01:49:48.040 --> 01:49:55.080]  people not to use the criminal complaints in the civil case because the civil court
[01:49:55.080 --> 01:50:00.120]  judge has no jurisdiction in this case over the criminal. The criminal is a separate court.
[01:50:01.400 --> 01:50:09.560]  But you can claim that they committed this act and this act had the effect of violating
[01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:19.000]  this criminal statute, which resulted in this civil tort. You have causes of action and torts.
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:25.400]  And when they do wrongful things to you, that rings in torts. So you can make the criminal
[01:50:25.400 --> 01:50:32.840]  accusations that way, but only in support of the civil tort. So let's talk about that tomorrow.
[01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.160]  It'll take a little more explaining to make that make sense.
[01:50:35.160 --> 01:50:37.960]  Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you.
[01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:42.360]  But I'm telling you what, they're running scared. You should see what I got.
[01:50:42.360 --> 01:50:51.000]  Good. Okay. Here's my philosophy. If you have your opponent back on the ropes,
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:59.400]  laid back with his legs spread out, what do you do? You kick him in the privates, of course,
[01:50:59.400 --> 01:51:05.960]  no quarter. Okay. Give us a call tomorrow. We've got four more callers and we're really
[01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:08.440]  running out of time. All right. Thanks.
[01:51:08.440 --> 01:51:13.080]  Thank you, Rosetta. Okay. We're going to go to Sean in Pennsylvania.
[01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:18.520]  Hello, Sean. I have been talking about you. I just talked about you today.
[01:51:19.480 --> 01:51:23.240]  All right. Yeah. I got a couple of questions for you. I'll try to make this as quick as possible.
[01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:27.960]  A couple of callers go where he was talking about sending inmates overseas.
[01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:33.240]  I did hear something about that about a month ago. So I might be something,
[01:51:33.240 --> 01:51:38.360]  it sounds crazy, but if somebody can make money off it, I'm sure they'll consider it.
[01:51:41.320 --> 01:51:47.240]  The question I have is, I'm just starting to learn about law. And the question is,
[01:51:47.240 --> 01:51:54.600]  is about charters and corporations. How DC is a corporation? Is the state corporations
[01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:57.560]  too in each town? Is there a charter or how's that work?
[01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:03.000]  Okay. There's a lot of Patriot mythology about this.
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.960]  Deborah, are you there? I'm sure she's going to want to chime in on this part.
[01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:23.880]  We have judges. When a judge sits, he sits as an elected judge in his constitutional capacity.
[01:52:23.880 --> 01:52:31.160]  Now, he may be a member of a corporation, like a state corporation or municipal corporation.
[01:52:32.120 --> 01:52:39.560]  And when the judge steps down off that bench, he may be the CEO or the directing manager of
[01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:48.920]  this corporation. But when he steps up on the bench, he's only there if he's statutorily
[01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:55.720]  if he's statutorily authorized to be there. And he's there in his capacity under the
[01:52:55.720 --> 01:53:00.760]  constitution or statute and not in his capacity as a corporate officer.
[01:53:02.200 --> 01:53:07.400]  Okay. What's the reason actually to have him as a corporate officer for lawsuits?
[01:53:07.400 --> 01:53:21.480]  It's just for business organization. They hire employees, they lease properties, they buy
[01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:30.760]  products, all this business kind of stuff that the court has to do to keep the court open.
[01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:39.000]  And they do that under the corporate charter. When that judge steps up behind that bench,
[01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:46.120]  he's either there in his constitutional capacity or he's a criminal.
[01:53:47.320 --> 01:53:51.720]  I see what you're saying. Now, there's one more. Well, I actually got a couple of questions. I'll
[01:53:51.720 --> 01:53:58.760]  try to make as quick as possible. The other question I have is, I've read,
[01:53:58.760 --> 01:54:03.960]  and this could be hard to tell, but anyway, it was about the straw man.
[01:54:05.320 --> 01:54:13.400]  Yes. Okay. We try to keep people from getting drawn down this rabbit hole. There's a lot of
[01:54:13.400 --> 01:54:19.400]  people that make a big deal about that. But in Pennsylvania, if you want to understand the
[01:54:19.400 --> 01:54:31.080]  straw man, go up to New Holland or Intercourse or Blue Ball up in that area and talk to the Amish.
[01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:37.240]  They fully understand this concept, but they don't call it straw man.
[01:54:38.120 --> 01:54:45.320]  They call it the public side and the private side. You have a public and private side.
[01:54:45.320 --> 01:54:51.880]  Your public side is the straw man. It's what these Patriot guys, when they talk about the straw man,
[01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:56.680]  they're talking about their public persona. Yeah. I've also read it was called the different
[01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:02.760]  terms of a public persona. Okay. The Amish really understand this.
[01:55:03.480 --> 01:55:09.320]  They don't want anything to do with the public side, but they live in the real world with the
[01:55:09.320 --> 01:55:17.000]  rest of us, and they have to deal with political entities, companies, other people. They do that in
[01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:21.400]  their straw man capacity. So they don't want to get rid of their straw man. They need it.
[01:55:22.600 --> 01:55:26.920]  But when they stop dealing in the public, they go back to their private side.
[01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:31.320]  Does that make sense? Yes, it does, actually. I've heard that
[01:55:31.320 --> 01:55:36.600]  you can, more or less it's within contract, you can willingly float between, but it's upon choice.
[01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:43.800]  And the other question I have is, I've read over some documents that you should sign documents
[01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:50.280]  like by colon, your first name, colon, last name, and then without prejudice. Is there
[01:55:50.280 --> 01:55:58.120]  any validity to that? Not that I know of. All that does is says to any judge who looks at it,
[01:55:58.120 --> 01:56:10.280]  this guy is a Patriot wacko. I sent a suit to someone in California and he was a researcher,
[01:56:10.280 --> 01:56:16.360]  longtime researcher, and I sent it to his son. He sent it back to me. He had changed the heading to,
[01:56:16.360 --> 01:56:28.680]  he had that kind of introduction. What was it? He was a Ray of the family hall and man on the land
[01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:35.000]  and blah, blah, blah. And I said, Ray, what is all this crap? He said, well, it's all true.
[01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:40.920]  I said, Ray, you're fat old and bald. He said, well, what does that have to do with anything?
[01:56:40.920 --> 01:56:47.640]  Nothing. Neither does that crap. Get it out of there. All it does is say to the judge,
[01:56:47.640 --> 01:56:55.640]  this guy's a wacko. Now, even if the judge is absolutely totally honest and fair-minded,
[01:56:56.920 --> 01:57:04.600]  that won't prejudice him. And he will tend to look for what he expects to find.
[01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:14.040]  When I do legal documents, the only way I want that judge to be able to realize that this was
[01:57:14.040 --> 01:57:20.040]  not written by a lawyer is that he doesn't find a lawyer's signature at the bottom of it.
[01:57:22.040 --> 01:57:30.280]  Anything else will trigger subliminal responses by the judge that you do not know.
[01:57:30.280 --> 01:57:35.240]  Okay. We've only got a minute left. Call back in tomorrow night. We can talk about this in more
[01:57:35.240 --> 01:57:53.960]  detail. I'd like to take at least one more. Thank you, Sean. Terrence in Georgia, very quickly.
[01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:58.680]  Can you hear me all right? Yes, I can hear you quickly.
[01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:07.320]  Quickly, I'd like you to look up Liberty County, Florida sheriff arrested for letting the man out
[01:58:07.320 --> 01:58:13.080]  of jail. I found it on Daily Paul and you can download the arrest warrant and maybe comment
[01:58:13.080 --> 01:58:20.600]  on it tomorrow. Okay. Send me a link to that to Randy at RuleOfLawRadio.com.
[01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:28.200]  Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. And I'm sorry to run you out of time this way and
[01:58:28.200 --> 01:58:33.640]  Carol and Mike, I'm sorry, we ran out of time. Give us a call tomorrow night. We'll have a full
[01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:39.720]  four hours and I'll kick you guys to the top of the line. So make sure we get you in. Thank you
[01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:46.040]  for your patience. Thank you all for listening. We will be back tomorrow night. Same time,
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