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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000]  This fruit is a favorite on American breakfast tables but not if you're on prescription medication.
[00:07.000 --> 00:11.000]  Eating it can trigger serious side effects and even death.
[00:11.000 --> 00:17.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. Back to identify this potentially lethal fruit. Next.
[00:17.000 --> 00:23.000]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:23.000 --> 00:28.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:28.000 --> 00:33.000]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[00:33.000 --> 00:36.000]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:46.000 --> 00:51.000]  When you think of a healthy breakfast, oatmeal, yogurt, and grapefruit often come to mind.
[00:51.000 --> 00:57.000]  But Canadian researchers now say grapefruit can be dangerous for people on certain prescription medications,
[00:57.000 --> 00:59.000]  especially the elderly.
[00:59.000 --> 01:05.000]  When combined with antihistamines or blood pressure medication, grapefruit can lead to kidney failure,
[01:05.000 --> 01:09.000]  respiratory problems, intestinal bleeding, and even death.
[01:09.000 --> 01:14.000]  An ingredient in the fruit blocks an enzyme in the digestive system that breaks down drugs.
[01:14.000 --> 01:19.000]  When that happens, more of the drugs get into the bloodstream, sometimes at toxic levels.
[01:19.000 --> 01:24.000]  So if you're on medications, check with your doctor before biting into that grapefruit.
[01:24.000 --> 01:26.000]  It just might save your life.
[01:26.000 --> 01:31.000]  Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:35.000 --> 01:38.000]  Should parents be fingerprinted to drop off their kids at daycare?
[01:38.000 --> 01:42.000]  Mississippi says yes, but only low-income parents are being targeted.
[01:42.000 --> 01:47.000]  I've got your Catherine Albrecht back with more on this Privacy Rights issue next.
[01:47.000 --> 01:53.000]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:53.000 --> 01:58.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:58.000 --> 02:03.000]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:03.000 --> 02:06.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:16.000 --> 02:22.000]  In Mississippi, low-income parents are getting an ultimatum at daycare centers.
[02:22.000 --> 02:25.000]  Give up your biometric data or do without daycare.
[02:25.000 --> 02:30.000]  Under Mississippi's program, parents who receive state subsidies for childcare
[02:30.000 --> 02:34.000]  must have all 10 of their fingerprints scanned, with no exceptions.
[02:34.000 --> 02:38.000]  Wealthier parents who can afford to pay for daycare don't have to do this.
[02:38.000 --> 02:44.000]  State officials are trying to justify this policy by saying that poor parents could be committing fraud.
[02:44.000 --> 02:47.000]  They're applying the policy to the innocent as well, of course.
[02:47.000 --> 02:50.000]  So when did the working poor become suspects?
[02:50.000 --> 02:54.000]  No parent in America should be treated like a criminal just to get childcare.
[02:54.000 --> 03:18.000]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[03:24.000 --> 03:29.000]  What's she gonna do?
[03:29.000 --> 03:32.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what's she gonna do?
[03:32.000 --> 03:35.000]  What's she gonna do when they come for you?
[03:35.000 --> 03:38.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what's she gonna do?
[03:38.000 --> 03:40.000]  What's she gonna do when they come for you?
[03:40.000 --> 03:43.000]  When you were eight and you had bad grades,
[03:43.000 --> 03:46.000]  you'd go to school and learn the golden rules.
[03:46.000 --> 03:49.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:49.000 --> 03:51.000]  If it's you get fucked, then you must just prove.
[03:51.000 --> 03:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what's she gonna do?
[03:54.000 --> 03:56.000]  What's she gonna do when they come for you?
[03:56.000 --> 03:58.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what's she gonna do when they come for you?
[03:58.000 --> 04:01.000]  Okay, what you gonna do when we come for you?
[04:01.000 --> 04:04.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens,
[04:04.000 --> 04:11.000]  Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 24th day of September.
[04:11.000 --> 04:19.000]  And we're gonna talk, there's a lot of things that I've been working on that I wanted to talk about today.
[04:19.000 --> 04:22.000]  And we're gonna start with the mortgage issue.
[04:22.000 --> 04:28.000]  I've been, if you've been listening to the program for, to us for quite a while,
[04:28.000 --> 04:35.000]  you know that I've been talking for a long time about some tools that we've been putting together.
[04:35.000 --> 04:40.000]  And anytime you're deciding you're doing something new,
[04:40.000 --> 04:45.000]  it's really easy to have a great idea.
[04:45.000 --> 04:49.000]  Lots of people have great ideas.
[04:49.000 --> 04:55.000]  But when you start turning the great ideas into something real in the world,
[04:55.000 --> 04:58.000]  that is a whole other animal altogether.
[04:58.000 --> 05:04.000]  And this one has proved to be more no different than any other,
[05:04.000 --> 05:10.000]  the great ideas that I've tried to implement over the years.
[05:10.000 --> 05:16.000]  And it turns out when you actually start fleshing it out, there's a lot more to it than you expected.
[05:16.000 --> 05:20.000]  But we've been wading through the issues.
[05:20.000 --> 05:22.000]  And we are very close.
[05:22.000 --> 05:26.000]  We had Bargreaves himself been working for a short time.
[05:26.000 --> 05:29.000]  And I looked at it and it wasn't acceptable.
[05:29.000 --> 05:31.000]  And we had to pull it down.
[05:31.000 --> 05:39.000]  But I'm hoping that in within the next few days that we will have the full platform up and working.
[05:39.000 --> 05:44.000]  It's important that we get that done quickly.
[05:44.000 --> 05:53.000]  Because we have a legislative session that's in the works right now.
[05:53.000 --> 06:02.000]  We have the State Commission on Judicial Conduct is up for review this session.
[06:02.000 --> 06:15.000]  And we have an opportunity to make some serious changes and Bargreaves and JudicialConduct.com both will be especially influential
[06:15.000 --> 06:24.000]  in encouraging our legislators to make some of the changes that we're looking for.
[06:24.000 --> 06:36.000]  And on the mortgage side, you know, we do research and we do this radio show and we have people calling in all the time with
[06:36.000 --> 06:43.000]  interesting and innovative things that they can do and that we can do.
[06:43.000 --> 06:56.000]  And there's so much that often we will hear something that's really sounds great and like a really effective tool.
[06:56.000 --> 06:58.000]  And then we go on to the next one and then the next one.
[06:58.000 --> 07:00.000]  And we forget about some of those.
[07:00.000 --> 07:11.000]  And it was that problem that prompted me in the first place to try to come up with a way of capturing all of this information in one place.
[07:11.000 --> 07:15.000]  So that it would be accessible and available to everybody.
[07:15.000 --> 07:27.000]  And that is what is really beginning to come together when I tried to put together an analysis of mortgage analysis tool.
[07:27.000 --> 07:36.000]  The amount of information that I've gathered over the last four or five years is somewhat overwhelming.
[07:36.000 --> 07:39.000]  There is so much of it.
[07:39.000 --> 07:52.000]  I put together a basic analysis and it turned out to be so large and so in depth that even I didn't understand it.
[07:52.000 --> 07:55.000]  And I don't want us putting it together.
[07:55.000 --> 07:59.000]  But that has created some unique difficulties.
[07:59.000 --> 08:09.000]  And we have been struggling trying to find methods of putting this together that will overcome the depth and the complexity.
[08:09.000 --> 08:19.000]  And I think we've come across something that's going to make this much easier to use and intuitive.
[08:19.000 --> 08:28.000]  We're using something that will be producing the basic structure in vector graphics.
[08:28.000 --> 08:41.000]  So that when you're going through the questionnaire, instead of having a set of different pages coming up at you where you click on a link
[08:41.000 --> 08:48.000]  and it takes you from one page to the next page and then from that page to another and into another and into another.
[08:48.000 --> 09:00.000]  And after a while you're lost so deep in this thing, it's hard to keep your orientation. It's hard to keep a mental image of where you are in the process.
[09:00.000 --> 09:08.000]  That's been one of the most difficult issues is orientation.
[09:08.000 --> 09:12.000]  And we're working out a new strategy.
[09:12.000 --> 09:23.000]  You haven't seen any web pages done this way, but we're looking to take the entire mind map, the map of all of the links.
[09:23.000 --> 09:27.000]  It's kind of similar to a site map.
[09:27.000 --> 09:36.000]  If anybody's familiar with websites, especially if you have a large website, they'll almost always have a site map that you can go to.
[09:36.000 --> 09:43.000]  And it'll kind of show you how the site is put together.
[09:43.000 --> 09:55.000]  We're experimenting with bringing up a site where the site map is the background texture.
[09:55.000 --> 10:03.000]  And the page that you're working on is a page that floats above the site map.
[10:03.000 --> 10:06.000]  So that you have a page you can see.
[10:06.000 --> 10:15.000]  But behind you, all of the blank space behind that page is just as if you went to something like MapQuest.
[10:15.000 --> 10:22.000]  And in MapQuest you can bring up a map.
[10:22.000 --> 10:32.000]  And what's hard for you to tell working with a program like that is that map that you're looking at.
[10:32.000 --> 10:38.000]  Most of us don't realize how really, really large that file is.
[10:38.000 --> 10:46.000]  I just did some research and we found an open source site called CityMap.
[10:46.000 --> 10:53.000]  And it's an open source program that anybody can access for free and use for free.
[10:53.000 --> 11:07.000]  And it gives you an option where you can add information to it. So if you live in an unusual place that has not been mapped out well,
[11:07.000 --> 11:11.000]  you open this program and you're looking at a map.
[11:11.000 --> 11:17.000]  And you can shrink the map down to, it'll give you an outline of it.
[11:17.000 --> 11:20.000]  It'll give you the whole planet. You can see the whole planet in it.
[11:20.000 --> 11:32.000]  And then select any spot on the planet and zoom in and zoom all the way down to such a fine detail.
[11:32.000 --> 11:43.000]  You can see every single street and lane that's on the planet that has been mapped to this point.
[11:43.000 --> 11:49.000]  So this one map is so huge, it has everything in it.
[11:49.000 --> 11:56.000]  And this is what we're looking to do with the mortgage analysis tool.
[11:56.000 --> 12:07.000]  It's very large and lots of different aspects and we will be putting a map in behind it.
[12:07.000 --> 12:15.000]  So that when you're at a given page, you can click on the background and see how you got to this page
[12:15.000 --> 12:21.000]  and how this page lands in the overall scheme of things.
[12:21.000 --> 12:32.000]  And more importantly, you can look at this and say, well, you know, right here is an issue you did not address.
[12:32.000 --> 12:41.000]  Just like in this open map program, open source map program, you can look at a set of streets and say,
[12:41.000 --> 12:46.000]  wait a minute, wait a minute, there's another street that goes right here or there's a lane that goes down to this house over here
[12:46.000 --> 12:51.000]  and it's not in your map. You can go in and add that to the map.
[12:51.000 --> 13:00.000]  With our map, we will have an option where if there is an issue that we have not addressed,
[13:00.000 --> 13:11.000]  you can go into the map and it will be created in the form of a questionnaire or just a set of directions.
[13:11.000 --> 13:18.000]  And you can say, you know, right at this point, you ought to ask this question or you should address this particular issue.
[13:18.000 --> 13:24.000]  And you can open the tool, add that issue to it.
[13:24.000 --> 13:31.000]  This is the basic strategy. It's hard to appreciate on the surface what that will do.
[13:31.000 --> 13:44.000]  We were looking to make this available to lawyers and the lawyer can send their new client to this questionnaire
[13:44.000 --> 13:56.000]  and be confident that unlike the lawyer himself who gets distracted and forgets to ask certain questions,
[13:56.000 --> 13:59.000]  the computer never ever forgets to ask a question.
[13:59.000 --> 14:12.000]  And when a computer asks you a question, it doesn't invoke the emotional attachments that won't have the effect on the person it will have
[14:12.000 --> 14:15.000]  as it will if you're sitting in front of a person.
[14:15.000 --> 14:19.000]  If you're sitting in front of a lawyer and you're trying to get the lawyer to represent you
[14:19.000 --> 14:26.000]  and there's a piece of information that doesn't look good for you, it tends not to come to mind.
[14:26.000 --> 14:31.000]  It's not that the client hides anything.
[14:31.000 --> 14:40.000]  It's just their ultimate purpose at the moment is to convince this lawyer that it's a good idea to represent me
[14:40.000 --> 14:47.000]  and giving him the bad information is not going to be helpful toward your outcomes that never comes to mind.
[14:47.000 --> 14:53.000]  And that's the situation that happens when in court a piece of information comes out
[14:53.000 --> 14:56.000]  and the lawyer turns around and looks at his client like,
[14:56.000 --> 15:00.000]  well, why didn't you tell me about that?
[15:00.000 --> 15:04.000]  And lawyer's biggest fear is missing something important.
[15:04.000 --> 15:11.000]  So the questionnaire will always remember to ask the question and then we can ask the lawyer to look at the questionnaire
[15:11.000 --> 15:19.000]  and say, is there something you would address that we have missed
[15:19.000 --> 15:24.000]  and that you would want to ask your client at any one point in this whole process
[15:24.000 --> 15:29.000]  and then give the lawyer a tool to put that issue in there.
[15:29.000 --> 15:37.000]  In this way, we capture the expertise of the lawyer.
[15:37.000 --> 15:42.000]  You know, I've talked about this before that we're developing a tool
[15:42.000 --> 15:50.000]  wherein we will eliminate the profession of lawyer and get lawyers to pay us to do it.
[15:50.000 --> 15:56.000]  This is how we do it. We give the lawyer a tool that will be of great value to the lawyer
[15:56.000 --> 15:59.000]  because once his client has answered all these questions,
[15:59.000 --> 16:03.000]  then the lawyer can be comfortable that he hasn't missed anything important.
[16:03.000 --> 16:10.000]  If he has, it's because his client didn't answer the question and he's not at risk himself.
[16:10.000 --> 16:14.000]  Lawyers will like that. This will serve their purpose.
[16:14.000 --> 16:20.000]  And in the process, they will deliver to us their expertise.
[16:20.000 --> 16:28.000]  We will gather the expertise of all of these lawyers and then make it available to the proceed litigants
[16:28.000 --> 16:35.000]  who can come to the table with the accumulated expertise of all these lawyers
[16:35.000 --> 16:39.000]  and they will give us that and pay us to do it.
[16:39.000 --> 16:42.000]  There's just something intuitive and satisfying about that.
[16:42.000 --> 16:45.000]  But it wasn't enough just to have the idea.
[16:45.000 --> 16:48.000]  It's taking a lot to get there and we are very close.
[16:48.000 --> 16:52.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deputy Secretary Craig, Real Law Radio.
[16:52.000 --> 17:19.000]  Call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[19:20.000 --> 19:25.000]  Look what we got.
[19:25.000 --> 19:28.000]  We asked for cash, John.
[19:28.000 --> 19:30.000]  We don't know what that is.
[19:30.000 --> 19:33.000]  We don't have the answer.
[19:33.000 --> 19:35.000]  We don't know what that is.
[19:35.000 --> 19:38.000]  We asked for cash, John.
[19:38.000 --> 19:40.000]  Look what we got.
[19:40.000 --> 19:43.000]  We don't have the answer.
[19:43.000 --> 19:45.000]  We don't have the answer.
[19:45.000 --> 19:46.000]  My car won't be used.
[19:46.000 --> 19:47.000]  My seat lot, hold the while.
[19:47.000 --> 19:49.000]  We can't take it easy.
[19:49.000 --> 19:51.000]  They make our way too politically,
[19:51.000 --> 19:54.000]  and then get too mad and angry.
[19:54.000 --> 19:57.000]  But they're not standing up and fighting for each other,
[19:57.000 --> 19:59.000]  freedom and defeat.
[19:59.000 --> 20:01.000]  And they love them, love slavery,
[20:01.000 --> 20:03.000]  and get handled by the government.
[20:03.000 --> 20:08.000]  We asked for cash, John.
[20:08.000 --> 20:12.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:12.000 --> 20:14.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:14.000 --> 20:18.000]  We asked for cash, John.
[20:18.000 --> 20:20.000]  Look what we got.
[20:20.000 --> 20:23.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:23.000 --> 20:25.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:25.000 --> 20:30.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:30.000 --> 20:32.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:32.000 --> 20:33.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:33.000 --> 20:34.000]  We don't have the answer.
[20:34.000 --> 20:39.000]  We're the same.
[20:39.000 --> 20:43.000]  We are the same.
[20:43.000 --> 20:47.000]  We do not have any rights.
[20:47.000 --> 21:04.840]  Okay, we are back, Randy Calton, Deb Stephens, Rue Vleau Radio, and we're gonna go to Deborah.
[21:04.840 --> 21:09.160]  She has us a guest tonight, and I'm gonna let her introduce him.
[21:09.160 --> 21:16.200]  We're going back to the gun issue, and it's kind of the gun issue, but I'll let Deborah
[21:16.200 --> 21:18.200]  introduce this for you.
[21:18.200 --> 21:20.200]  Deborah, pick it up for you.
[21:20.200 --> 21:22.200]  All right, thanks, Randy.
[21:22.200 --> 21:27.200]  All right, listeners, yeah, for the last few Thursdays here on Rule of Law, we have been
[21:27.200 --> 21:29.200]  discussing the Second Amendment issue.
[21:29.200 --> 21:33.200]  It's been a very hot issue as of late, as everyone knows.
[21:33.200 --> 21:36.200]  It's what everybody's talking about lately.
[21:36.200 --> 21:41.200]  Well, tonight we have another very special guest for you.
[21:41.200 --> 21:48.200]  His name is Michael Cargill, and he is the owner of Central Texas Gun Works, and they
[21:48.200 --> 21:54.200]  offer concealed handgun classes, beginner handgun classes, advanced handgun classes,
[21:54.200 --> 21:56.200]  all kinds of classes.
[21:56.200 --> 21:58.200]  They also sell firearms.
[21:58.200 --> 22:02.200]  He's an FFL dealer, et cetera, right here in Austin, Texas.
[22:02.200 --> 22:13.200]  And he has a story of his own about basically being mistreated and actually damaged, harmed
[22:13.200 --> 22:16.200]  by a company called Groupon.
[22:16.200 --> 22:19.200]  All right, now, many folks out there know what Groupon is.
[22:19.200 --> 22:21.200]  Some may not know what Groupon is.
[22:21.200 --> 22:26.200]  So let me just briefly explain what Groupon is, because I have some experience with Groupon.
[22:26.200 --> 22:30.200]  Groupon is an online, basically it's kind of like a coupon.
[22:30.200 --> 22:33.200]  All right, that's kind of why they call it Groupon.
[22:33.200 --> 22:38.200]  And it's nationwide, but it is targeted for your local area.
[22:38.200 --> 22:40.200]  And so you can sign up.
[22:40.200 --> 22:46.200]  Customers can sign up for free to be a member of Groupon, and you get access to special deals
[22:46.200 --> 22:49.200]  that are offered by local businesses, local vendors.
[22:49.200 --> 22:57.200]  I mean, anything ranging from different services like car washes or deals at restaurants or
[22:57.200 --> 23:04.200]  concealed handgun classes, things like this, at least for a while, that's the way it was,
[23:04.200 --> 23:06.200]  up until a certain point.
[23:06.200 --> 23:14.200]  Well, apparently the CEO of Groupon is a gun grabber and has decided that he's not going
[23:14.200 --> 23:21.200]  to allow any businesses that have anything to do with guns participating in Groupon
[23:21.200 --> 23:27.200]  or offer make deals on Groupon for classes or anything like this.
[23:27.200 --> 23:30.200]  Well, that's his prerogative.
[23:30.200 --> 23:32.200]  It's his company, whatever.
[23:32.200 --> 23:38.200]  I don't agree with it, but it's his business, live and let live, so to speak.
[23:38.200 --> 23:43.200]  Everyone has the right to make the rules that they want to make of how they conduct their
[23:43.200 --> 23:48.200]  own business and who they want to do business with, for the most part.
[23:48.200 --> 23:55.200]  Okay, if he wanted to make that policy for all future contracts, say, well, from now on,
[23:55.200 --> 24:02.200]  we're not going to, you know, sign any new contracts with anybody that wants to sell
[24:02.200 --> 24:06.200]  like anything that has anything related to guns on Groupon, that's fine.
[24:06.200 --> 24:13.200]  But the real question comes down to, and I pretty much already know the answer,
[24:13.200 --> 24:18.200]  does he have the authority or the right to be in breach of contract, for example,
[24:18.200 --> 24:23.200]  and say, well, I'm just going to cancel every pin, every current Groupon that's in progress
[24:23.200 --> 24:25.200]  that has anything to do with guns?
[24:25.200 --> 24:30.200]  Well, basically that's what happened to our guest, Michael Cargill.
[24:30.200 --> 24:35.200]  And I'm going to let him tell the story, but just in a nutshell, he had a Groupon going
[24:35.200 --> 24:41.200]  for one of his classes and it was a contract, okay?
[24:41.200 --> 24:47.200]  They just basically are in breach of contract because they denied his Groupon in the middle
[24:47.200 --> 24:49.200]  of the Groupon.
[24:49.200 --> 24:52.200]  See, the way Groupon works, there's a time limit on these deals.
[24:52.200 --> 24:55.200]  Like, it's not just an indefinite thing.
[24:55.200 --> 24:57.200]  It's, you know, for a certain period of time.
[24:57.200 --> 25:03.200]  And so while the Groupon was live in progress, CEO just decided, no, no, you're out of here.
[25:03.200 --> 25:09.200]  We're canceling the deal and it sounds to me like they're in breach of contract,
[25:09.200 --> 25:13.200]  which is a very serious thing, and it all has to do with the Second Amendment issue.
[25:13.200 --> 25:16.200]  So that in and of itself is kind of like the nutshell.
[25:16.200 --> 25:19.200]  So, Michael, thank you and welcome to the show.
[25:19.200 --> 25:25.200]  And would you please extrapolate on this and tell us your side of the story here?
[25:25.200 --> 25:27.200]  Yes, thank you for having me.
[25:27.200 --> 25:30.200]  I really appreciate it and allow me to tell my story.
[25:30.200 --> 25:32.200]  You're absolutely correct.
[25:32.200 --> 25:38.200]  We started a deal with Groupon, which was supposed to start, which it actually did start last week, Tuesday.
[25:38.200 --> 25:45.200]  And the deal was supposed to run until Tuesday from Tuesday until Saturday, Saturday at midnight.
[25:45.200 --> 25:48.200]  Well, the deal started on Tuesday like it was supposed to.
[25:48.200 --> 25:55.200]  And then on Wednesday, the Groupon representative contacted me and he said, Mike, your deal is doing so great.
[25:55.200 --> 26:00.200]  It is actually going to sell out much faster than we expected.
[26:00.200 --> 26:03.200]  He said, well, you know, what we really need to do is raise the limit,
[26:03.200 --> 26:07.200]  increase the amount of people that can actually sign up for the deal.
[26:07.200 --> 26:12.200]  I said, well, right now we have it at 600 set for 600 people to sign up.
[26:12.200 --> 26:14.200]  He said, well, can we raise it?
[26:14.200 --> 26:15.200]  I said, sure, let me think about it.
[26:15.200 --> 26:18.200]  I said, okay, well, let's go ahead and double it.
[26:18.200 --> 26:21.200]  Why don't we, you know, raise it even a little higher than double.
[26:21.200 --> 26:23.200]  Let's go ahead and do it at 1500.
[26:23.200 --> 26:29.200]  Allow 1500 people to sign up for the deal, which was for a concealed handgun license course.
[26:29.200 --> 26:37.200]  A 10-hour class, which we feed you breakfast tacos for breakfast, I'm sorry, and then pizza for lunch.
[26:37.200 --> 26:39.200]  So we allowed people to go ahead and do that.
[26:39.200 --> 26:43.200]  And he sent me an email, wanted me to approve the email, and I did.
[26:43.200 --> 26:44.200]  I approved it and sent it back.
[26:44.200 --> 26:47.200]  And then we set it for 1500.
[26:47.200 --> 26:52.200]  So then on Friday morning, I walked into my office and he contacted me again.
[26:52.200 --> 26:56.200]  And he said, well, we have suspended your deal.
[26:56.200 --> 26:59.200]  And I said, well, hold on.
[26:59.200 --> 27:00.200]  You suspended the deal?
[27:00.200 --> 27:01.200]  Why is that?
[27:01.200 --> 27:10.200]  He said, well, the CEO of the company contacted me and he said that we're not doing any more deals, anything having to do with guns.
[27:10.200 --> 27:14.200]  Gun ranges, shooting clays, nothing to do with firearms at all.
[27:14.200 --> 27:16.200]  So they totally canceled our deal.
[27:16.200 --> 27:19.200]  And so I said, well, hold on a second.
[27:19.200 --> 27:21.200]  We have a lot of deal going on right now.
[27:21.200 --> 27:26.200]  It's supposed to run until another two full days.
[27:26.200 --> 27:29.200]  How can you cancel my deal while it's going live?
[27:29.200 --> 27:32.200]  He said, well, the CEO has made the decision and we're shutting it down.
[27:32.200 --> 27:33.200]  I said, OK.
[27:33.200 --> 27:38.200]  Well, I said, we're in a contract and I expect for you guys to uphold that contract.
[27:38.200 --> 27:44.200]  He said, well, if you read your contract, your contract says that we can cancel the deal at any time.
[27:44.200 --> 27:45.200]  I said, OK.
[27:45.200 --> 27:47.200]  So I said, well, I'm going to contact my lawyer.
[27:47.200 --> 27:52.200]  I'm going to go over this contract from top to bottom.
[27:52.200 --> 27:56.200]  And then we'll see what my options are because I'm going to try to sue you.
[27:56.200 --> 27:59.200]  And if I can't sue you, then I'm going to try something else.
[27:59.200 --> 28:01.200]  He said, well, I'm sorry to hear that.
[28:01.200 --> 28:06.200]  I said, well, I just want you to know that I'm going to do whatever I need to do.
[28:06.200 --> 28:09.200]  So we hung up the phone.
[28:09.200 --> 28:10.200]  I contacted my attorney.
[28:10.200 --> 28:12.200]  We took a look at the contract.
[28:12.200 --> 28:18.200]  The attorney stated that, well, they can cancel the deal, but they're supposed to give you that in writing.
[28:18.200 --> 28:19.200]  I said, oh, OK.
[28:19.200 --> 28:20.200]  Well, they didn't give me anything in writing.
[28:20.200 --> 28:21.200]  We just talked over the phone.
[28:21.200 --> 28:23.200]  And that's what we normally do.
[28:23.200 --> 28:28.200]  Whenever anything's done and he changes or anything like that, they actually send me an email.
[28:28.200 --> 28:31.200]  I respond to that email approved and send it back to them.
[28:31.200 --> 28:33.200]  And they haven't done that with this.
[28:33.200 --> 28:37.200]  So what we're going to do is we're holding our options open with following the lawsuit.
[28:37.200 --> 28:50.200]  And also where I'm actually reaching out to other venues that are out there who are actually have the same type of deals.
[28:50.200 --> 28:59.200]  So at this point, what I've asked people to do is I've asked people to join in me and actually boycotting Groupon,
[28:59.200 --> 29:05.200]  because they actually are saying what they're doing is they're actually targeting law-abiding citizens,
[29:05.200 --> 29:09.200]  people that are taking the time out of their busy schedule to learn gun safety,
[29:09.200 --> 29:15.200]  to learn the laws that are surrounding those firearms and also to learn conflict resolution.
[29:15.200 --> 29:24.200]  We are targeting those people there and we're saying, hey, we're punishing you for taking the time out of your schedule to do the right thing.
[29:24.200 --> 29:26.200]  And I say that's not right.
[29:26.200 --> 29:30.200]  And that's not the way that we should conduct ourselves.
[29:30.200 --> 29:32.200]  And that's not how we do business with our customers.
[29:32.200 --> 29:37.200]  Now, I promise my customers that we would run this deal from Tuesday to Saturday,
[29:37.200 --> 29:40.200]  and that's what I expect for Groupon to do.
[29:40.200 --> 29:41.200]  Absolutely.
[29:41.200 --> 29:45.200]  And I am not in agreement with what Groupon has done to you, either, Michael.
[29:45.200 --> 29:48.200]  Folks, we are going to break right now.
[29:48.200 --> 29:53.200]  If you have questions for Michael, you can call in 512-646-1984.
[29:53.200 --> 29:58.200]  We will be right back on the other side with Michael Cargill, owner of Central Texas Gun Works.
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[32:54.200 --> 32:57.200]  Okay, folks, we are here, live.
[32:57.200 --> 33:02.200]  Tonight is January 24, Thursday, January 24.
[33:02.200 --> 33:08.640]  This is the rule of law, rule of law on the Logos radio network.
[33:08.640 --> 33:10.960]  I am one of your hosts, Deborah Stevens.
[33:10.960 --> 33:13.120]  I am here with my co-host, Randy Kelton.
[33:13.120 --> 33:16.840]  We are also here with a very special guest, Mr. Michael Cargill.
[33:16.840 --> 33:22.120]  He is the owner of Central Texas Gun Works and he's talking about how he has been wronged
[33:22.120 --> 33:28.860]  by Groupon and they are in a holding pattern as far as the lawsuit is concerned, potential
[33:28.860 --> 33:30.360]  lawsuit against Groupon.
[33:30.360 --> 33:33.000]  I'm sure we'll be hearing more about that.
[33:33.000 --> 33:35.360]  He'll keep us updated as time goes on.
[33:35.360 --> 33:39.520]  Right now he's mainly calling for a call to action to boycott Groupon and I'll tell
[33:39.520 --> 33:43.440]  you, you know, you just, it's gotten to the point where it's ridiculous.
[33:43.440 --> 33:44.840]  You can't use Google.
[33:44.840 --> 33:45.840]  You can't use Groupon.
[33:45.840 --> 33:50.800]  I mean, they're just, they're just a bunch of criminals, every single one of them.
[33:50.800 --> 33:54.680]  And you know, one thing I wanted to comment on, you know, and I haven't seen any of their
[33:54.680 --> 34:00.800]  contracts or anything and this remains to be seen just how much in breach of contract
[34:00.800 --> 34:04.640]  they really are because I'm sure they're totally in breach of contract.
[34:04.640 --> 34:11.800]  But see, here's the thing, even if two parties enter into a contract reserving the right
[34:11.800 --> 34:19.960]  to cancel the contract, generally there are specific situations, there are specific stipulations
[34:19.960 --> 34:25.920]  under which a party to a contract is allowed to cancel the contract.
[34:25.920 --> 34:33.320]  They can't, typically, they can't just cancel the contract for any reason at their own whim,
[34:33.320 --> 34:37.200]  whenever they feel like it, for whatever reason they feel like it, and of course especially
[34:37.200 --> 34:39.040]  without anything in writing.
[34:39.040 --> 34:44.960]  So I mean, there may be things in there too that there has to be certain reasons.
[34:44.960 --> 34:52.040]  So that's one, that's one aspect, you know, that I would like to see come out at some
[34:52.040 --> 34:53.040]  point in time.
[34:53.040 --> 34:56.040]  Randy, you were going to say something?
[34:56.040 --> 34:57.040]  Randy?
[34:57.040 --> 34:58.040]  Okay.
[34:58.040 --> 35:01.040]  I saw Randy was going to say something.
[35:01.040 --> 35:03.640]  Somebody muted my mic when I wasn't looking.
[35:03.640 --> 35:04.640]  Okay.
[35:04.640 --> 35:08.840]  Well, you know, and what I want to add to that is you're absolutely correct and I encourage
[35:08.840 --> 35:13.720]  people, if you feel like you've been wrong, you know, get an attorney and go after them.
[35:13.720 --> 35:15.960]  You let people run over you because they will.
[35:15.960 --> 35:23.520]  You know, the reason I started my gun store was my grandmother at 70 years old decided
[35:23.520 --> 35:27.120]  that she was going to go back to college to get her college degree.
[35:27.120 --> 35:31.440]  So my grandmother only got a high school education.
[35:31.440 --> 35:35.280]  So my grandmother at 70 said, hey, I'm going back to college.
[35:35.280 --> 35:39.920]  My grandmother was sitting at a bus stop after leaving a college library waiting for a bus
[35:39.920 --> 35:44.520]  to come and a guy came along, mugged her and tried to rape her.
[35:44.520 --> 35:47.400]  And that's why I became a concealed hang on license instructor.
[35:47.400 --> 35:51.560]  And that's why I've, you know, started my gun store because I wanted to make sure that
[35:51.560 --> 35:55.480]  every female in my family had tools they need to protect themselves.
[35:55.480 --> 36:00.480]  And what Groupon is doing, they're telling, they're saying that law Biden citizen, that
[36:00.480 --> 36:04.920]  person that's taken the time out of their busy schedule to learn gun safety, to learn
[36:04.920 --> 36:10.280]  the laws, to learn conflict resolution, they're saying that person is the person that they're
[36:10.280 --> 36:11.280]  going to punish.
[36:11.280 --> 36:14.200]  They're not punishing the criminals.
[36:14.200 --> 36:17.440]  They're punishing the person that's trying to do the right thing.
[36:17.440 --> 36:25.560]  The fact that executives at Groupon are comfortable promoting tours of porn studios, but uncomfortable
[36:25.560 --> 36:30.320]  promoting a family of friendly afternoon of ski shooting might explain why their stock
[36:30.320 --> 36:35.000]  has also dropped 70 private percent in the last, in the past year.
[36:35.000 --> 36:39.120]  And then clearly, you know, if they were concerned about reducing gun deaths in this country,
[36:39.120 --> 36:45.480]  then the best way to go about this is by ensuring that fewer gun owners receive safety training
[36:45.480 --> 36:46.480]  and proficiency testing.
[36:46.480 --> 36:49.520]  You know, that, I guess that would be the way to do it.
[36:49.520 --> 36:55.720]  So what I'm doing is I'm calling on every American who believes in the right of safe
[36:55.720 --> 37:03.320]  lawful gun ownership to join me in refusing to hand over even one red cent to an organization
[37:03.320 --> 37:10.000]  that clearly has no respect for those of us who, whether for recreation or personal protection,
[37:10.000 --> 37:12.520]  choose to exercise their constitutional rights.
[37:12.520 --> 37:13.520]  Absolutely.
[37:13.520 --> 37:17.280]  My name is Michael Cargill and I'm asking you to boycott Groupon.
[37:17.280 --> 37:20.200]  Email them, call them, drive them crazy.
[37:20.200 --> 37:21.200]  Absolutely.
[37:21.200 --> 37:26.680]  Email them, call them, write them letters, write them certified letters, barrage them,
[37:26.680 --> 37:28.160]  send them faxes.
[37:28.160 --> 37:32.400]  I know I will because this is absolutely ridiculous.
[37:32.400 --> 37:40.480]  They are trying to punish law abiding citizens who are doing the right thing by taking personal
[37:40.480 --> 37:48.040]  responsibility to learn to be trained and how to use firearms, how to use them safely,
[37:48.040 --> 37:54.560]  how to learn the laws surrounding firearms in their state to get concealed handgun licenses.
[37:54.560 --> 38:00.520]  All these things, they are punishing law abiding citizens for doing the right thing plus they're
[38:00.520 --> 38:04.040]  on breach of contract and hey, I'll tell you what, I'm never going to get involved with
[38:04.040 --> 38:09.280]  Groupon again because if they're going to breach your contract, that means they have
[38:09.280 --> 38:14.120]  no respect for contractual agreements either so they may just decide to breach a contract.
[38:14.120 --> 38:16.160]  I make with them for whatever reason.
[38:16.160 --> 38:21.400]  I say completely boycott them, I say harass them, I say drive their stock value into the
[38:21.400 --> 38:24.080]  ground, ring their phone off the hook.
[38:24.080 --> 38:28.760]  Look folks, the election system is completely fraudulent.
[38:28.760 --> 38:30.920]  We've known this for years and years and years.
[38:30.920 --> 38:34.160]  They program the outcome of the election at the factory.
[38:34.160 --> 38:40.880]  This has been admitted way before when Bush was in office so you know what, we are left
[38:40.880 --> 38:45.200]  with little other than courts suing.
[38:45.200 --> 38:50.480]  We take it into courts and we vote with our dollars and I say we take our votes away from
[38:50.480 --> 38:51.480]  Groupon.
[38:51.480 --> 38:52.960]  I am completely in agreement with you, Michael.
[38:52.960 --> 38:55.960]  This is absolutely outrageous.
[38:55.960 --> 39:03.320]  Yes, absolutely and thankful for those of us who are seeking an intellectual debate on
[39:03.320 --> 39:09.120]  the subject and the current administration and Senator Feinstein have found a way to
[39:09.120 --> 39:15.440]  drop empty platitudes and mileage rhetoric from unmanned drones so let's not forget that.
[39:15.440 --> 39:16.440]  Yes, absolutely.
[39:16.440 --> 39:17.440]  All right.
[39:17.440 --> 39:19.600]  We have a caller on the line who is on topic.
[39:19.600 --> 39:26.920]  He has a comment about the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act and so we're going to
[39:26.920 --> 39:28.400]  go to David here.
[39:28.400 --> 39:30.240]  David from Texas, thank you for calling in.
[39:30.240 --> 39:33.160]  What is your comment about the Deceptive Trade Practices Act?
[39:33.160 --> 39:40.760]  Oh, you're welcome, David and Randy and...
[39:40.760 --> 39:42.880]  And Michael, his name is Michael Cargill.
[39:42.880 --> 39:44.360]  Michael, yes.
[39:44.360 --> 39:51.280]  Michael, is your grandmother, you don't have to tell me your business but is she one of
[39:51.280 --> 39:53.240]  the owners of your company?
[39:53.240 --> 39:56.680]  No, I'm actually the sole owner of the company.
[39:56.680 --> 39:59.680]  My grandmother actually passed away shortly after that incident.
[39:59.680 --> 40:06.920]  Okay, well, there's a law in the books that does get enforced and it's called the Texas
[40:06.920 --> 40:13.720]  Deceptive Trade Practices Act and the Texas Attorney General enforces it and one of the
[40:13.720 --> 40:19.720]  things, the reason I asked about your grandmother, normally if you break that law and you're
[40:19.720 --> 40:27.960]  a retailer, it costs you a thousand bucks every time you break the law unless the person,
[40:27.960 --> 40:30.960]  the customer is 65 years older, older.
[40:30.960 --> 40:37.640]  Well, the reason I know about the law happened to be older than 65, not that I'm real proud
[40:37.640 --> 40:43.840]  of it but I'm going to apply it to some real estate deals anyway.
[40:43.840 --> 40:50.960]  Let me interject that I know David personally and he absolutely is older than 65.
[40:50.960 --> 40:51.960]  Okay, Randy.
[40:51.960 --> 40:52.960]  Way well.
[40:52.960 --> 40:53.960]  Go ahead, David.
[40:53.960 --> 40:59.440]  Yeah, and David, listen, can you please hold the phone a little bit further away from your
[40:59.440 --> 41:02.960]  mouth down your chin because you're distorting the mic, you're overblowing the mic on your
[41:02.960 --> 41:03.960]  phone.
[41:03.960 --> 41:04.960]  Oh, okay.
[41:04.960 --> 41:05.960]  Is that better?
[41:05.960 --> 41:07.960]  Yeah, it's a little bit better.
[41:07.960 --> 41:08.960]  Okay.
[41:08.960 --> 41:12.960]  Anyway, is that even better?
[41:12.960 --> 41:13.960]  Yeah, that's better.
[41:13.960 --> 41:16.960]  Just keep it further away from your mouth, please.
[41:16.960 --> 41:17.960]  Okay.
[41:17.960 --> 41:26.600]  If you can figure out how to apply that $250,000 fine, see if you're 65 or older and people
[41:26.600 --> 41:35.040]  break that law after you notice them and tell them, hey, you give them a tort letter and
[41:35.040 --> 41:40.160]  they do it again, then you take it to the Texas Attorney General and he'll help you
[41:40.160 --> 41:41.160]  collect the money.
[41:41.160 --> 41:46.280]  Well, yeah, and I'm sure there's probably other aspects of the Deceptive Trade Practices
[41:46.280 --> 41:50.000]  Act that could be applied here, too, and any time you can get the Attorney General to
[41:50.000 --> 41:55.280]  go after him, that's always a good thing, you get the Attorney General and sue him
[41:55.280 --> 41:56.280]  in civil court.
[41:56.280 --> 42:00.120]  Well, listen, David, we're going to have to let you go because your phone is really bad
[42:00.120 --> 42:02.480]  and it's breaking up and it's also feeding back.
[42:02.480 --> 42:05.280]  My voice is feeding back through your line, so we're going to have to move on.
[42:05.280 --> 42:07.960]  We've got Julius in Texas now.
[42:07.960 --> 42:12.600]  Julius wants to make a comment about this situation with Michael as well.
[42:12.600 --> 42:13.600]  Julius, please go ahead.
[42:13.600 --> 42:16.480]  What is your question or comment for Michael?
[42:16.480 --> 42:17.480]  Hi, Michael.
[42:17.480 --> 42:22.280]  I just wanted to say hang in there and everybody's behind you, especially I am, and I've been
[42:22.280 --> 42:24.800]  in this situation, causes of action.
[42:24.800 --> 42:31.040]  In other words, if you're going to sue them for anything, a couple things you might want
[42:31.040 --> 42:32.800]  to just jot down or something.
[42:32.800 --> 42:35.600]  One is, where are their incorporation paperwork?
[42:35.600 --> 42:40.760]  In other words, where were they actually incorporated if they were not incorporated
[42:40.760 --> 42:46.720]  in Texas, then that means you're going to need to file a federal suit and you'll have
[42:46.720 --> 42:48.600]  several courses of action.
[42:48.600 --> 42:54.680]  I've been through this experience, but a couple of them would be like breach of contract and
[42:54.680 --> 42:56.680]  promissory, a stop-all.
[42:56.680 --> 43:02.400]  Well, Julius, yes, a federal lawsuit could be an option for Michael, but keep in mind
[43:02.400 --> 43:10.240]  that any corporation, that is a foreign corporation to the state of Texas, has to be registered
[43:10.240 --> 43:16.920]  with the Secretary of State of Texas to have permission to do business in the state of
[43:16.920 --> 43:23.160]  Texas and thus they are subject to all the commercial laws governing businesses in the
[43:23.160 --> 43:27.600]  state of Texas, so he can also sue them in state court as well.
[43:27.600 --> 43:28.600]  Okay.
[43:28.600 --> 43:33.080]  Yeah, that's good because then you have the Deceptic Trade Project.
[43:33.080 --> 43:34.080]  Exactly.
[43:34.080 --> 43:35.080]  Yes, yes.
[43:35.080 --> 43:42.600]  So you have to be authorized by the Secretary of State to do business in the state and pretty
[43:42.600 --> 43:44.800]  much that's going to be across the board for any state.
[43:44.800 --> 43:47.120]  Julius, do you have anything else for us?
[43:47.120 --> 43:49.200]  No, that's battery separate.
[43:49.200 --> 43:50.200]  Okay, great.
[43:50.200 --> 43:51.200]  Thank you for calling in.
[43:51.200 --> 43:52.800]  Folks, we are going to break right now.
[43:52.800 --> 43:53.800]  Anyone else has a question?
[43:53.800 --> 43:57.600]  Comment for Michael, 512-646-1984.
[43:57.600 --> 44:01.600]  We will be right back.
[44:01.600 --> 44:04.760]  Mr. President, members of Congress.
[44:04.760 --> 44:09.640]  You've been making a lot of noise about taking our guns away, which might want to review
[44:09.640 --> 44:10.640]  history.
[44:10.640 --> 44:18.400]  1835, Gonzales, Texas Territory, the authorities wanted to confiscate the big gun that protected
[44:18.400 --> 44:19.400]  that colony.
[44:19.400 --> 44:22.160]  You know what the people said?
[44:22.160 --> 44:29.440]  Come and take it because they were willing to fight for their freedom and their guns.
[44:29.440 --> 44:30.440]  So are we.
[44:30.440 --> 44:37.440]  Come and take it if you want it, come and take it if you think you can, come and take
[44:37.440 --> 44:42.440]  it, but I warn you, you'll have to fight for my golden hands.
[44:42.440 --> 44:48.440]  We want the freedom that God gave us, so you best not cross that line.
[44:48.440 --> 44:54.440]  If you want this done, you've got to come through for us and take it.
[44:54.440 --> 45:00.440]  One shot at a time, just like Gonzales, we're keeping our guns.
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[47:22.440 --> 47:26.440]  out there to the public on the airwaves.
[47:26.440 --> 47:27.440]  That's what we need.
[47:27.440 --> 47:29.440]  We've got to take control of this country.
[47:29.440 --> 47:31.440]  We've got to take our freedom back.
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[47:33.440 --> 47:38.440]  We've got to be responsible for the information that gets out there to the people because
[47:38.440 --> 47:41.440]  this is radio by the people for the people.
[47:41.440 --> 47:45.440]  And speaking of that, we do need your help.
[47:45.440 --> 47:47.440]  We are listener-supported.
[47:47.440 --> 47:52.440]  We do have some very loyal sponsors, but most of them are on a commission basis,
[47:52.440 --> 47:56.440]  which means we only get paid if you purchase products from our sponsors.
[47:56.440 --> 48:00.440]  So for the most part, we are completely and 100% listener-supported.
[48:00.440 --> 48:02.440]  We're not supported by the Ford Foundation.
[48:02.440 --> 48:04.440]  We're not supported by Mark.
[48:04.440 --> 48:10.440]  We're not supported by the pharmaceutical industries and all the entities that are trying to take away your guns, folks.
[48:10.440 --> 48:12.440]  We are supported by you.
[48:12.440 --> 48:15.440]  We are in the midst of a fundraiser right now.
[48:15.440 --> 48:18.440]  I want to plug some of the perks that we have going on.
[48:18.440 --> 48:25.440]  Some of our listeners have stepped up and just they're really doing an amazing thing.
[48:25.440 --> 48:26.440]  They are giving away.
[48:26.440 --> 48:32.440]  They have donated items for the fundraiser to the other listeners.
[48:32.440 --> 48:35.440]  So the listeners are donating to the other listeners now.
[48:35.440 --> 48:40.440]  We've got Purium Health products, a $50 gift card.
[48:40.440 --> 48:47.440]  So if you donate $50, you get your choice of either a $50 gift card for Purium Health products.
[48:47.440 --> 48:50.440]  They make excellent supplements and health products.
[48:50.440 --> 48:56.440]  Or you can get a brand new light scribe Hewlett Packard DVD burner.
[48:56.440 --> 49:00.440]  We've got about six or eight left.
[49:00.440 --> 49:05.440]  These were also donated by a listener, picked them up from his workplace.
[49:05.440 --> 49:07.440]  They were at work in the IT department.
[49:07.440 --> 49:08.440]  They were about to throw them away.
[49:08.440 --> 49:12.440]  They bought too many for the computers there at the IT department.
[49:12.440 --> 49:14.440]  The company was about to throw them in the dumpster.
[49:14.440 --> 49:16.440]  He said, no, give me those.
[49:16.440 --> 49:18.440]  And he has donated them to us.
[49:18.440 --> 49:21.440]  They're worth around $75 or so.
[49:21.440 --> 49:29.440]  So for a $50 donation, you could get a brand new sealed in the box light scribe Hewlett Packard DVD burner
[49:29.440 --> 49:31.440]  for those who don't know what light scribe is.
[49:31.440 --> 49:35.440]  That means it prints on the CD or the DVD itself.
[49:35.440 --> 49:38.440]  It's kind of a heat ink process.
[49:38.440 --> 49:42.440]  It's not like the inkjet printers, where if it gets moisture, if you rub on it,
[49:42.440 --> 49:46.440]  it can kind of get messy and stuff like that.
[49:46.440 --> 49:47.440]  This will not make a mess.
[49:47.440 --> 49:55.440]  These are absolutely a must-have, a necessity for activists out there who want to copy Alex Jones' DVDs
[49:55.440 --> 49:56.440]  and give them away.
[49:56.440 --> 50:00.440]  You've got to have a light scribe printer so that people can take you seriously.
[50:00.440 --> 50:03.440]  No more Sharpies riding on the CDs of the DVDs.
[50:03.440 --> 50:04.440]  So we've got that going.
[50:04.440 --> 50:10.440]  We've got one of our brand new hosts, Larry Weist, who is the host of God and Guns.
[50:10.440 --> 50:15.440]  Brand new show here on the Logos Radio Network just started this past Saturday from 1 to 3 p.m.
[50:15.440 --> 50:21.440]  He's also airing on our affiliates here in Austin, 90.1 FM, and Oklahoma City, and the others.
[50:21.440 --> 50:28.440]  He has a Silver Lungs Generator colloidal ionic silver maker.
[50:28.440 --> 50:39.440]  He is giving away for folks who donate $75, you can get your choice of a 32-ounce bottle of either colloidal silver or ionic silver.
[50:39.440 --> 50:47.440]  For $150, you can get both, and of course, the biggest perk of all.
[50:47.440 --> 50:48.440]  This is just amazing.
[50:48.440 --> 50:49.440]  You can hardly even get it out.
[50:49.440 --> 50:52.440]  We've been talking about this for a week or so now.
[50:52.440 --> 51:02.440]  One of our supporters, an FFL dealer in Corpus Christi, Texas, Chris Hall, the owner of Zombie Killers, Ammo, and Guns,
[51:02.440 --> 51:11.440]  one of our newest sponsors, he is donating a Rock River AR-15 to the giveaway, to the fundraiser.
[51:11.440 --> 51:20.440]  So for folks out there, if you donate $20, you can get your name put in the hat for the drawing of the Rock River AR-15.
[51:20.440 --> 51:22.440]  Now, this is technically not a raffle.
[51:22.440 --> 51:28.440]  Raffles are highly regulated by the federal government, and they have certain types of requirements in certain ways that they operate.
[51:28.440 --> 51:29.440]  This is not a raffle.
[51:29.440 --> 51:31.440]  This is a gun giveaway.
[51:31.440 --> 51:37.440]  But we are also working it so that for every $20 you donate, your name goes in the hat.
[51:37.440 --> 51:41.440]  So if you donate $100, your name goes in the hat five times.
[51:41.440 --> 51:54.440]  Now, we have extended our fundraiser to the end of February to give everyone out there as much a chance as possible to get in on the contest for the Rock River AR-15 giveaway.
[51:54.440 --> 51:56.440]  There's been such a tremendous response.
[51:56.440 --> 52:02.440]  We've been able to raise our fundraising goal to $10,000, which is where I wanted to set it all along anyway.
[52:02.440 --> 52:07.440]  I wasn't sure if we'd be able to get that much, so I was kind of conservative when I set my first goal of $7,000.
[52:07.440 --> 52:16.440]  But now, I believe we can reach the goal that I really wanted to reach from the beginning, which is $10,000, to purchase new equipment so that we can upgrade,
[52:16.440 --> 52:24.440]  and we can put more shows on the air to bring you all more information that is helpful and also to pay for the increasing operating expenses.
[52:24.440 --> 52:29.440]  And in light of that, we are discussing this on the break with Michael Cargill.
[52:29.440 --> 52:34.440]  Michael Cargill has a special announcement that he is going to donate to the fundraiser.
[52:34.440 --> 52:39.440]  So Michael, why don't you break it down for us for our listeners here?
[52:39.440 --> 52:45.440]  Yes, you've inspired me so much, and thank you for allowing me to come on the show and tell my story.
[52:45.440 --> 52:57.440]  So Central Taxes Gun Works is going to donate an AR-15 strip lower receiver, a spikes tactical AR-15 strip lower receiver for your fundraiser.
[52:57.440 --> 53:01.440]  Thank you so much, Michael. This is just amazing.
[53:01.440 --> 53:05.440]  All right, so after the show, I'm going to coordinate with Michael a little bit.
[53:05.440 --> 53:08.440]  We're going to get links to this piece of equipment.
[53:08.440 --> 53:16.440]  So whoever wins the AR-15 is going to also get this special piece of equipment that goes along with the AR-15.
[53:16.440 --> 53:19.440]  Michael, I'm sure it will work with the Rock River AR-15, won't it?
[53:19.440 --> 53:22.440]  Oh, yeah.
[53:22.440 --> 53:25.440]  I had a feeling. Michael, this is just wonderful news.
[53:25.440 --> 53:29.440]  So there you go, folks. There are more perks all along.
[53:29.440 --> 53:33.440]  So please get in right away on the fundraiser.
[53:33.440 --> 53:36.440]  Just go to LogosRadioNetwork.com. You can click on the chip in.
[53:36.440 --> 53:41.440]  If you would rather send silver or money orders or a check, you can also do that.
[53:41.440 --> 53:44.440]  There's information about the mailing address on the website.
[53:44.440 --> 53:51.440]  All right, so now back to the other business of ranting and railing on Groupon and to talk about the Second Amendment.
[53:51.440 --> 53:53.440]  So Michael, I'm just going to give you the floor.
[53:53.440 --> 53:58.440]  What other information do you want to give us here?
[53:58.440 --> 54:06.440]  What's happening in this country is there's a direct attack on lawful gun ownership, and we need to stop that.
[54:06.440 --> 54:12.440]  We need to tell wherever this is coming from, whether it's coming from Congress, it's coming from the White House.
[54:12.440 --> 54:19.440]  We need to say we have had enough of this direct attack of lawful gun owners in this country.
[54:19.440 --> 54:24.440]  You have people that are taking the time out of their busy schedule to learn gun safety, to learn the laws,
[54:24.440 --> 54:33.440]  to learn conflict resolution, who are being attacked and pinpointed and said, hey, you are the bad ones, and that's not right.
[54:33.440 --> 54:40.440]  You know, this is in Illinois. This is in Chicago, where you have 100 people who can get shot in a one-week period in Chicago,
[54:40.440 --> 54:43.440]  and the president, the White House, they don't care.
[54:43.440 --> 54:48.440]  Okay, they don't even care. We need to stop that.
[54:48.440 --> 54:54.440]  We need to get out. We need a consistent relief system.
[54:54.440 --> 55:00.440]  And before we start saying, take everybody's guns away, do the research.
[55:00.440 --> 55:11.440]  Go look at Switzerland. In Switzerland, everybody has a gun, and it's always been that way.
[55:11.440 --> 55:20.440]  The murder rate in Switzerland is lower per capita than in most any other country in the world.
[55:20.440 --> 55:23.440]  So we should pay attention to that.
[55:23.440 --> 55:29.440]  And, you know, we've talked about on this show that a armed society is a polite society.
[55:29.440 --> 55:35.440]  And, yeah, it might be a great idea if nobody had guns.
[55:35.440 --> 55:42.440]  It might be. But in the world we live in, it's not that way.
[55:42.440 --> 55:58.440]  And so long as the bad people have access to guns, it is unconscionable to take them away from the 96% of the population who would be the good guys.
[55:58.440 --> 56:04.440]  Whoever this guy is that owns Groupon, he is not thinking.
[56:04.440 --> 56:11.440]  You take the guns away from the honest people, and that's specifically who he is targeting.
[56:11.440 --> 56:17.440]  Then the only ones left with weapons are the ones that should never have them in the first place.
[56:17.440 --> 56:28.440]  Just like we talked about the schools, if the simple solution to the problem with people going into schools and using our schools as a Turkish shoot,
[56:28.440 --> 56:39.440]  armed the turkeys, armed the teachers, then they won't have a place where they can go in and feel relatively safe in shooting everybody they move.
[56:39.440 --> 56:47.440]  Because they'll consider it absolutely unfair if the turkeys start shooting back at them.
[56:47.440 --> 57:01.440]  The funny thing is when the current administration, they actually ignore the weapons used in 7,000 annual homicides, and they actually go after weapons used in a couple of hundred annual homicides.
[57:01.440 --> 57:09.440]  Well, that's not an attempt to make people safer. That's an attempt to establish a legacy by laying the groundwork for future gun vans.
[57:09.440 --> 57:23.440]  So that's why I'm calling on every American who believes in the right of safe, lawful gun ownership to join me in refusing to hand over even one cent to an organization that clearly has no respect for those of us,
[57:23.440 --> 57:29.440]  whether for recreation or personal protection, choose to exercise their constitutional right.
[57:29.440 --> 57:34.440]  We need to contact Groupon, call them, email them.
[57:34.440 --> 57:41.440]  You know, we're in Texas. In the Texas, you can carry a handgun in the Texas State Capitol with the concealed handgun license.
[57:41.440 --> 57:50.440]  You actually have two lines. You have your metal detector line where your non-CHL holders go through, then you have your CHL line where your CHL holders go through.
[57:50.440 --> 57:55.440]  You show that truth for your concealed handgun license and you can go into the Texas State Capitol with your handgun.
[57:55.440 --> 58:02.440]  You can testify for a Texas State House Committee with the handgun on you. You can testify for a Texas State Senate Committee with the handgun on you.
[58:02.440 --> 58:05.440]  You can sit in the House gallery and watch the debate take place.
[58:05.440 --> 58:12.440]  You can sit in the Senate gallery and watch the debate take place in Texas State Capitol with a handgun on you. And that's why I love Texas.
[58:12.440 --> 58:17.440]  He didn't tell us you're the most heated debate take place on the college campus.
[58:17.440 --> 58:21.440]  I say, ballast, you're the most heated debate take place in Texas State Capitol.
[58:21.440 --> 58:28.440]  You know, they argue about bills until one, two o'clock in the morning. They all have guns. They all hate each other and nothing bad is ever happened.
[58:28.440 --> 58:34.440]  Absolutely. All right, folks, we are going to break. We are here with a very special guest, Michael Cargill.
[58:34.440 --> 58:44.440]  If you have questions, comments on the Second Amendment or Groupon or other issues related, 512-646-1984.
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[01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:31.440]  Okay folks, we are back. Sorry for the extended break there.
[01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:33.440]  A little chit-shatting on the break.
[01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:41.440]  We are discussing this item that Michael is giving away, that he is donating to the network.
[01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:47.440]  And what we are actually going to do, the same person is not going to win both items.
[01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:57.440]  It's going to be, we have one giveaway, we have one contest. First place, the first prize is the Rock River AR-15.
[01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:06.440]  Second place, whoever comes up, the runner up number two is going to get this Spikes Tactical Spider Lower.
[01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.440]  So Michael, why don't you explain a little bit about this?
[01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:17.440]  You were selling these like hotcakes at your gun shop the other day after it basically went viral, what's happened with you and group on.
[01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:22.440]  So why don't you explain about this part that you are giving away that is going to be second place.
[01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:29.440]  This is going to be the second place prize for this giveaway. So go ahead, if you would, Michael.
[01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:41.440]  Sure. What we did is Central Texas Gun Works this past Monday is we sold 100 AR-15 strip lower receivers and Spikes Tactical.
[01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:48.440]  And what this is, the Spikes Tactical AR-15 strip lower receiver, with that you can build your AR.
[01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:55.440]  You can build an AR into whatever you want it to be. You can actually make it a pistol or you can make it into a rifle.
[01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:59.440]  You can do whatever you want. You have that option when it's a lower receiver.
[01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:06.440]  Because once you get the AR-15, the AR-15, you're stuck with that. And a lot of people like that. It's very popular.
[01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:12.440]  But then some people may want to change it into a pistol or make it a rifle and just soup it up.
[01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:19.440]  Instead of getting that forward, you may want to turn it into a BMW instead.
[01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:24.440]  And with the AR-15 strip lower receiver, you can do that.
[01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:31.440]  Okay, excellent. All right, so folks, now we have two prizes to give away for the contest.
[01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:42.440]  First prize is, of course, the Rock River AR-15. It's about a $1,400 firearm donated by Zombie Killers Ammo and Guns in Corpus Christi, Texas.
[01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:47.440]  The phone number is on the website. You can go to logosradionetwork.com.
[01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:58.440]  It's a column. Thank them. And also, now, Michael Cargill from Central Texas Gun Works is going to be giving away the Spikes Tactical AR-15 Lower Receiver
[01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:05.440]  that you can use to build your own AR-15 or a pistol, as he says. So, Michael, thank you very much.
[01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:11.440]  So that is going to be the second place prize for this contest that we are running.
[01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:20.440]  And folks, $20 donation gets your name in the drawing for every $20. Your name gets in the drawing again.
[01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:23.440]  So $100 donation gets your name in the drawing five times.
[01:08:23.440 --> 01:08:31.440]  Now, I will say this. If you win the AR-15, you're disqualified from being eligible to win the second place prize.
[01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:33.440]  Same person can't win both items.
[01:08:33.440 --> 01:08:46.440]  But, hey, either one is a great deal and we're going to have a banner and more information posted about that on logosradionetwork.com within the next day or so.
[01:08:46.440 --> 01:08:52.440]  And, Michael, we've got a lot of phone lines. We've got a lot of calls on the phone lines here. Would you like to take some calls?
[01:08:52.440 --> 01:08:54.440]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:08:54.440 --> 01:08:59.440]  Okay, here we go. We've got Kathy in Austin who has a question about your classes.
[01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:03.440]  Kathy, thank you for calling. What is your question for Michael Cargill?
[01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:06.440]  Well, first of all, thank you for the goodies.
[01:09:06.440 --> 01:09:16.440]  And also, when you're taking a class like that, do you have to follow up and get a hangar license?
[01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:25.440]  Or can you just come to learn and either bring your own or rent a gun and just learn and understand it?
[01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:36.440]  No, you don't have to follow through and get the concealed hangar license. It's really good to actually come to the class because we actually talk about preventive measures, how not to put yourself in certain situations.
[01:09:36.440 --> 01:09:46.440]  We also talk about conflict resolution, how to calm situations down, de-escalate certain situations, and how not to put yourself in certain situations.
[01:09:46.440 --> 01:09:58.440]  So it's a very good class and we cover all the laws in the state of Texas where you cannot have a gun because most people don't know that in the state of Texas, you can have a loaded handgun in your vehicle.
[01:09:58.440 --> 01:10:05.440]  It just must be concealed in a vehicle. You know, you can have a loaded handgun. It can be around the chamber. It can be one in a magazine.
[01:10:05.440 --> 01:10:12.440]  It can be in the glove box, in a center console. It can be under the seat. It can be up your butt. It just must be concealed in the state of Texas.
[01:10:12.440 --> 01:10:22.440]  Okay. So to then register for the class, how much information do you give? Is it like name and address and come on in?
[01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:30.440]  Well, all you do is go to our website at centraltexasgunworks.com, that's centraltexasgunworks.com, and sign up for a particular class.
[01:10:30.440 --> 01:10:38.440]  You don't have to give me your address and just, you know, show up for the class, take the class. We go to the gun range. It includes your range fee.
[01:10:38.440 --> 01:10:45.440]  It includes breakfast tacos for breakfast and pizza for lunch. And we take you out to the range. You shoot at the range. You can rent a gun from us.
[01:10:45.440 --> 01:10:56.440]  If you don't have a gun, for additional $30, you can rent the gun in ammunition and go out to the range, shoot at the range, and come back, and you will know the laws of the state of Texas.
[01:10:56.440 --> 01:11:10.440]  Oh, that's great. Well, that's really what I wanted to know because I've, you know, I've heard and heard all this stuff about, oh, let's get a concealed handgun. And I don't want to go through the background check to be registered.
[01:11:10.440 --> 01:11:19.440]  It's, you know, it's kind of nobody's business and I just, I don't want to go there.
[01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:29.440]  And that's fine. And you don't have to, but it's definitely, you're on the right track, you know, knowing the laws, know what you can do, know what you can't do, and how to keep yourself out of trouble.
[01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:39.440]  So I encourage you to take the concealed handgun license course so you can learn the laws. And if you want to learn how to shoot, because you don't know how to shoot, I encourage you to take a beginner pistol course.
[01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:50.440]  And that teaches you how to shoot, how to put your hand on the gun, what you need to look for when you're holding the gun and all that stuff. That's what the beginning pistol course is for.
[01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:56.440]  Oh, okay. Well, that sounds good. That's really all I have for you tonight. Thank you so much for being on.
[01:11:56.440 --> 01:11:58.440]  No, thank you for calling in.
[01:11:58.440 --> 01:11:59.440]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:08.440]  Thank you, Cassie. Yeah, why don't you tell us about the different courses that you offer at Central Texas Gun Works, Michael?
[01:12:08.440 --> 01:12:15.440]  Yes, we have a beginner pistol course, which is designed to teach you how to shoot. You know, we expect you to walk in there, not knowing anything about the gun.
[01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:25.440]  We teach you about the handgun, how to put your hands on the gun, how to look at the target, you know, your front sight, your rear sight, and go all over all the safety.
[01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:31.440]  You know, what you shouldn't do, keep your finger off the trigger unless you're on target and ready to fire. You know, we go all over that stuff.
[01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:38.440]  And then we take you out to the gun range and have you shoot at the range. The class actually includes the gun and the ammunition.
[01:12:38.440 --> 01:12:45.440]  So all you do is pay for the class and just show up. Then we have a concealed handgun license course, which is a 10-hour course.
[01:12:45.440 --> 01:12:55.440]  And it teaches you all the laws of the state of Texas. It teaches you conflict resolution and also prevention, how not to put yourself in certain situations.
[01:12:55.440 --> 01:13:04.440]  And with that class, you know, you take that certificate and we apply for the concealed handgun license and you get your license in about six to eight weeks after that course.
[01:13:04.440 --> 01:13:13.440]  And then we have an advanced pistol course. The advanced pistol course, what that is, that's designed to teach you how to get that gun out of your concealed carry position.
[01:13:13.440 --> 01:13:24.440]  Because you may only have three seconds, you know, to fire that gun. And with the concealed, the advanced pistol course, we actually have you draw from the holster from your concealed carry holster.
[01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:33.440]  So in the classroom, we have you drive fire and then we go out to the range. We actually draw from the holster and fire that handgun.
[01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:40.440]  That sounds absolutely awesome. Now, Michael, with the beginner pistol course, can people bring their own pistols?
[01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:50.440]  Yes, they sure can. And I encourage that. You know, bring that firearm that you have that you want to learn how to shoot and also learn how to take it apart and also learn how to clean it.
[01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:53.440]  Because we cover that in the beginner pistol course.
[01:13:53.440 --> 01:14:03.440]  That is absolutely fantastic because folks, you know, amidst this frenzy, it's like almost a hysteria of gun buying lately.
[01:14:03.440 --> 01:14:11.440]  I tell you what, that's the one thing I got to hand it. I got to give some props to Obama because he's the best gun salesman ever in the history of this country.
[01:14:11.440 --> 01:14:27.440]  He's talking tens of millions of guns, 10 million guns a month. I mean, so many of these manufacturers are on indefinite back order. But at any rate, amidst the hysteria of the gun buying frenzy, you better know how to use it.
[01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:37.440]  So if you're going to own firearms, I mean, there's no point in having them if you don't know how to use it, if you don't know how to clean it, if you're going to carry it, you know, in your car,
[01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:42.440]  which you don't need a concealed handgun license to have it in your car when you're traveling.
[01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:50.440]  And in Texas, that means going anywhere from point A to point B. It used to mean that you had to cross the county line, but they did away with that several years ago.
[01:14:50.440 --> 01:14:58.440]  So basically, you can have it in your car all the time as long as it's concealed and loaded. You can have it loaded, but like Michael says, it has to be concealed.
[01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:10.440]  At any rate, if you're going to have a firearm in the car or if you're going to have it with you on private property or on your own property, you need to know how to use it. You need to know how to clean it because if you can't clean it, it could malfunction.
[01:15:10.440 --> 01:15:25.440]  So I encourage everyone to go and get some firearms training if you're here in Austin. Go to Central Texas Gun Works and support our newest sponsor who is giving away this lower receiver that is going to the second place prize for our giveaway.
[01:15:25.440 --> 01:15:39.440]  And I just can't thank you enough, Michael. This is great. And we've got to get the word out here to boycott Groupon because it is absolutely ridiculous this war on law-abiding citizens as it were.
[01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:46.440]  That's right. And like I said, I'm calling on every American, everyone in Austin, please, you know, around the country.
[01:15:46.440 --> 01:16:05.440]  If you believe in the right of safe lawful gun ownership, you know, to join me in refusing to hand over even one red ship to an organization that clearly has no respect for those of us who, whether for recreation or personal protection, choose to exercise their constitutional right.
[01:16:05.440 --> 01:16:27.440]  I encourage you to call them. Groupon's number is 1-888-375-5777. Call them. They're open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. 888-375-5777. 888-375-5777.
[01:16:27.440 --> 01:16:31.440]  Call them. 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and tell them how you feel.
[01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:39.440]  Absolutely. Shut them down. Vote with your dollars, folks. That is one power that we do still have left.
[01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:45.440]  All right. We have a couple more callers on the board. We are here with Michael Cargill from Central Texas Gun Works.
[01:16:45.440 --> 01:16:52.440]  You can visit his website at CentralTexasGunWorks.com, Elri, and David. We see you up next.
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[01:19:18.440 --> 01:19:31.440]  Okay, you're not going to fool us with that same old trick again. It is really getting old, and I'll tell you, we're not falling for it anymore.
[01:19:31.440 --> 01:19:43.440]  All these false flag operations. And you know, Michael, this business about Obama and everybody going crazy about wanting to ban the guns because of these shootings,
[01:19:43.440 --> 01:19:48.440]  which of course they're all staged, especially the Batman shooting. That's some way come out.
[01:19:48.440 --> 01:19:55.440]  That guy was in a government mind control program under DARPA. It was a military government mind control program.
[01:19:55.440 --> 01:20:04.440]  He was a PhD psychology student that was drafted into an Air Force mind control program.
[01:20:04.440 --> 01:20:11.440]  It's so obvious to do the same thing over and over. I'm sure you listen to Alex Jones. It's so old. It's the same tired trick over and over again.
[01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:18.440]  But anyway, the point being about all these stage shootings as a pretense to take away our guns.
[01:20:18.440 --> 01:20:25.440]  If you just do a little bit of statistical research on this, it's absolutely ridiculous.
[01:20:25.440 --> 01:20:37.440]  The number of children, the number of people in general that have died in school shootings over the last 33 years.
[01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:45.440]  Catherine Albrecht actually did a research study of her own from 1987 until the present.
[01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:57.440]  There have been about 340 some odd people that have died from school shootings, okay, adults and children.
[01:20:57.440 --> 01:21:03.440]  All right, that's tragic, but that is not very many people in comparison with other forms of death.
[01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:08.440]  You wanted to have any idea of how many people have been struck by lightning and killed since 1987?
[01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:15.440]  I'm sorry, 1983, since 1983. So we're talking almost 30 years, okay, 30 years.
[01:21:15.440 --> 01:21:24.440]  Since 1983, over 1,300, between 1,300 and 1,400 people have died from lightning strikes.
[01:21:24.440 --> 01:21:28.440]  That is four times as many people that have died in school shootings.
[01:21:28.440 --> 01:21:36.440]  Well, what are we going to do? Are we going to pass laws against, you can't go outside when it rains anymore because you might get struck by lightning?
[01:21:36.440 --> 01:21:44.440]  I mean, how ridiculous can this get? I mean, thousands upon thousands and upon thousands of people die every year in drunk driving accidents.
[01:21:44.440 --> 01:21:49.440]  And people die just draining themselves to death? Okay, are we going to ban alcohol?
[01:21:49.440 --> 01:21:54.440]  Well, they already tried that. That didn't work. Okay, I mean, you know what the leading cause of death is?
[01:21:54.440 --> 01:22:01.440]  Nationwide, doctors. People's doctors killed them. Well, I don't see them throwing these doctors in jail.
[01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:07.440]  All right, so this is absolutely the hysteria surrounding the gun control issue because of these school shootings.
[01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:14.440]  I mean, if people just use a little bit of common sense, you realize that it is absolutely preposterous.
[01:22:14.440 --> 01:22:28.440]  You have four times, at least four, it's ridiculous. Four times as many people have died from a lightning strike than being involved in a gun shooting at a school.
[01:22:28.440 --> 01:22:37.440]  I mean, it's absolutely outrageous. I mean, you have a better chance of dying in a head-on collision, just random car crash.
[01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:40.440]  Okay, it's stupid.
[01:22:40.440 --> 01:22:55.440]  And I agree with you 100%. You know, there's nothing that the administration is doing, nothing at all, with their executive orders that's going to stop any of the shootings, you know, especially the one that happened in Connecticut.
[01:22:55.440 --> 01:23:03.440]  There's nothing that they're doing to stop that. Here we are in Texas. And in Texas, you know, I believe in our concealed hang-on license program.
[01:23:03.440 --> 01:23:16.440]  If you want to stop school shootings, we need to allow CHL holders to carry in those places. You have a school district in North Texas, Harold ISD, and there's another one as well.
[01:23:16.440 --> 01:23:26.440]  But Harold ISD, they allowed CHL holders to carry there ever since I believe 2006, and they've never had an incident in Harold ISD.
[01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:34.440]  That's your elementary school, middle school, and high school. They have allowed concealed hang-on license holders, teachers, principals to carry there.
[01:23:34.440 --> 01:23:51.440]  I believe in our CHL program we have here in the state of Texas. In the state of Texas, you've had, in the year, for example, of 2011, in 2011, we had 63,679 total convictions in the state of Texas.
[01:23:51.440 --> 01:24:09.440]  63,679 out of those 63,679, only 120 convictions were CHL holders. That's 120. That's less than a quarter percent. CHL holders are law-abiding citizens.
[01:24:09.440 --> 01:24:11.440]  Okay? I believe in our program.
[01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:21.440]  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you can't get a CHL if you are a criminal. That's for sure. So, I mean, it really is totally ridiculous.
[01:24:21.440 --> 01:24:28.440]  All right, we've got some callers on the board here. We've got Elri in Texas. Elri, what is your question or comment from Michael Cargill?
[01:24:28.440 --> 01:24:47.440]  Hi, thanks for having me. I just had a really quick comment. I want to thank you guys and mention that Goldman Facts actually underwrote the IPO for Groupon along with Morgan's family.
[01:24:47.440 --> 01:25:07.440]  And since you brought up Obama, who has a lot of fun with Article 1, Section 9, as the first U.S. president, of course, currently served the U.N. as well, Goldman Facts is a sponsor of the United Nations Association of the USA.
[01:25:07.440 --> 01:25:18.440]  And lastly, I just wanted to add that I don't know if y'all are familiar with the Next Generation Project.org.
[01:25:18.440 --> 01:25:36.440]  But through reading Charlotte Isherby's works, I've come to this tidbit that I could add as well, is that Walmart and Goldman Facts and three other banks and a whole host are right behind the Eisenhower created
[01:25:36.440 --> 01:25:52.440]  by the American Assembly, which hosts the Next Generation Project at a Columbia University. So I think Goldman Facts and Agenda 21 are crucial for when these sorts of things sort of hit us out of left field.
[01:25:52.440 --> 01:25:55.440]  So I just wanted to make that comment.
[01:25:55.440 --> 01:26:09.440]  Right. Well, it's no surprise that Goldman Facts and the U.N. are in cahoots with Groupon. I mean, you know, when I first found out about this, I was like, okay, they're getting paid to do this.
[01:26:09.440 --> 01:26:19.440]  They're obviously part of the agenda. So that is no big surprise there. I mean, it's obviously part of an overall agenda.
[01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:23.440]  Right, exactly.
[01:26:23.440 --> 01:26:28.440]  So like I said, I appreciate y'all, Thomas, when they drop that clear comment and want to hear the rest of y'all show.
[01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:40.440]  Okay, excellent. Okay, all right. We've got a couple more callers on the line. We've got Fred in California. Fred, thank you for calling in. What is your question or comment from Michael Cargill?
[01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:54.440]  Well, thank you. I thought I would remind you of a quote from Gandhi that I came across today by way of Mike Adams of Natural News.
[01:26:54.440 --> 01:27:17.440]  And here's the quote from Mohandas Gandhi from page 446 of his autobiography. Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look down upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
[01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:21.440]  Did you think that would come from Gandhi?
[01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:33.440]  Well, I've heard Alex Jones talking about this on the air. The only reason why they resorted to nonviolent resistance, peaceful resistance, is because they were disarmed.
[01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:40.440]  Okay, because if they had all been armed with AR-15s, they would have kicked the Brits out years and years and years before they actually were able to.
[01:27:40.440 --> 01:27:53.440]  Exactly. And it's just not the way we were taught in, oh, yeah, the public schools. You know, this...
[01:27:53.440 --> 01:27:55.440]  Yes, go ahead, Fred.
[01:27:55.440 --> 01:28:00.440]  Okay, we lost Fred.
[01:28:00.440 --> 01:28:03.440]  All right, we lost Fred. Go ahead, Randy.
[01:28:03.440 --> 01:28:12.440]  Yeah, this whole thing about carrying concealed weapons, I would never carry a weapon for self-defense.
[01:28:12.440 --> 01:28:25.440]  I'm an ex-combat veteran and I have an aversion to those things. I would carry a weapon for the singular purpose of defending our rights against this government.
[01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:41.440]  And that's the reason we were granted the right to carry, we can't have that right restricted, was not to protect ourselves from one another, but to protect ourselves from the government.
[01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:48.440]  And for that purpose, in this particular day and time, everybody should be armed.
[01:28:48.440 --> 01:28:51.440]  Unless you carry them sticking to it.
[01:28:51.440 --> 01:28:56.440]  I'd like to remind people about what happened in Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina.
[01:28:56.440 --> 01:29:07.440]  During Hurricane Katrina, you had your national guard and also your local law enforcement confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens.
[01:29:07.440 --> 01:29:12.440]  Okay, and you can go look that up on YouTube. It's called the Great Gun Grab.
[01:29:12.440 --> 01:29:20.440]  So thanks to the Texas State Rifle Association, we actually came up with the bill and we said, well, that's not going to happen here in Texas.
[01:29:20.440 --> 01:29:24.440]  It's a national disaster. That's when you're going to need your firearm the most.
[01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:30.440]  And we do not confiscate firearms here in the state of Texas. So I'd like to remind people about that.
[01:29:30.440 --> 01:29:35.440]  Yes, absolutely. And we are heading to break right now. We've got some callers on the line.
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[01:32:10.440 --> 01:32:26.440]  Okay, folks, we are here on the line with a very special guest, Mr. Michael Cargill, who has been wronged by Groupon.
[01:32:26.440 --> 01:32:31.440]  He's calling for a boycott of Groupon, and I think it is a well-deserved boycott.
[01:32:31.440 --> 01:32:41.440]  Let's go with our dollars. This entity apparently is in cahoots with the U.N. and with Goldman Sachs.
[01:32:41.440 --> 01:32:52.440]  No big surprise. Apparently, their headquarters are in Chicago, so I'm sure they are under the thumb of Chicago mob boss Rob Emanuel,
[01:32:52.440 --> 01:33:00.440]  which is no big surprise there of what's going on. I say, folks out there who are in Illinois, who are in Chicago,
[01:33:00.440 --> 01:33:08.440]  listeners, go to the Groupon headquarters and say, hey, guys, why don't you all put a big sign out in your front yard in the yard of the headquarters
[01:33:08.440 --> 01:33:12.440]  that says this is probably a gun-free zone. How about that? You guys hate guns so much.
[01:33:12.440 --> 01:33:19.440]  Why don't you tell the world how you're a gun-free zone? You know what? They won't do it because they're probably not.
[01:33:19.440 --> 01:33:28.440]  All right. Let's go back to the fundraiser a little bit here, folks. Again, for $20, you get your name entered into the drawing
[01:33:28.440 --> 01:33:36.440]  for the AR-15 giveaway that is being donated by zombie killers, ammo and guns out of Corpus Christi, Texas,
[01:33:36.440 --> 01:33:43.440]  and now Michael Cargill of Central Texas Gun Works has donated prize number two second place.
[01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:52.440]  The runner-up will get a lower receiver for an AR-15 that you can either build your own AR-15 with or you can build a pistol with.
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[01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:06.440]  This is a second prize for the gun giveaway. Every $20 you donate will get your name into the hat.
[01:34:06.440 --> 01:34:13.440]  So $100 will get your name into the hat five times. And of course, there are other perks, colloidal silver, ionic silver.
[01:34:13.440 --> 01:34:21.440]  Go to SilverLungs.com to read more about the Silver Lungs Generator. And folks, this is not colloidal silver or ionic silver
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[01:34:57.440 --> 01:35:04.440]  but sort of making this stuff and mailing it out to the listeners who have donated. You can go and read about that.
[01:35:04.440 --> 01:35:10.440]  We are so excited about all these perks and now the newest perk and that information will be posted soon.
[01:35:10.440 --> 01:35:16.440]  All right. We've got some callers on the line here. We've got Walter in Texas has a question about gun laws here in Texas.
[01:35:16.440 --> 01:35:20.440]  Walter, thank you for calling in. What is your question for Michael Cargill tonight?
[01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:28.440]  Thank you for taking my call. I have a 36-year-old son who received a felony when he was 17 years old.
[01:35:28.440 --> 01:35:33.440]  Now, recently he's been interested in, you know, getting his gun rights back.
[01:35:33.440 --> 01:35:41.440]  And he called the local sheriff and they told him that not to worry about it, basically, that in Texas,
[01:35:41.440 --> 01:35:47.440]  they would not enforce the federal law. And it sounds a little fishy to me that they told him, you know,
[01:35:47.440 --> 01:35:52.440]  he's a hunter and everything and they told him he can, you know, have his shot done or whatever.
[01:35:52.440 --> 01:35:57.440]  And there would be a problem in Texas. Would any thoughts on that?
[01:35:57.440 --> 01:36:02.440]  Yes. If he was a minor when he was convicted of a felony, okay?
[01:36:02.440 --> 01:36:06.440]  He was 17, so they don't consider that a minor.
[01:36:06.440 --> 01:36:10.440]  They don't consider that a minor. Okay, well, the legal law works.
[01:36:10.440 --> 01:36:18.440]  Go ahead. If he was a minor when he was convicted of a felony, after 10 years, he would be eligible to get a concealed
[01:36:18.440 --> 01:36:24.440]  hang-up license, as long as it's not one of the Title V, Chapter 29 punitive court offenses.
[01:36:24.440 --> 01:36:32.440]  Okay, but if he was an adult and he's been convicted of a felony, then he can't get a concealed hang-up license.
[01:36:32.440 --> 01:36:41.440]  Yeah, well, I can think about it. But I think he can't, can't he own a weapon on his own property?
[01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:48.440]  Okay, wait a minute. Yeah, I can address some of this. And Larry Weist actually addressed, and maybe Larry,
[01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:55.440]  if Larry's out there listening, he can call in, he addressed this on the air last week and also on his show.
[01:36:55.440 --> 01:37:03.440]  Okay, these laws about felons not being able to own firearms, that's a federal law that has nothing to do with state law.
[01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:09.440]  What Larry was saying, and I may not be exactly accurate on this, I'm going to have to go back and talk to him about it,
[01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:18.440]  but apparently in the state of Texas, if you've been convicted of a felony in the state of Texas after you have been adjudicated,
[01:37:18.440 --> 01:37:25.440]  after you have paid your debt to society, you know, if it was probation and your probation period is done,
[01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:31.440]  or you went to prison and you're out of prison or you had deferred adjudication or whatever it is,
[01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:41.440]  after you have completely paid your debt to society, you are allowed to own a firearm again under Texas state law.
[01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:49.440]  Now, under federal law, you're not, but under Texas state law, you are. That is my understanding in a nutshell
[01:37:49.440 --> 01:37:53.440]  from what Larry was saying, and I'm going to have Larry clarify that again on Saturday.
[01:37:53.440 --> 01:37:56.440]  I don't know if he's listening right now or not, if he is, you can call in.
[01:37:56.440 --> 01:38:06.440]  And so apparently what Larry was saying, and what I'm saying too is, yeah, we'll just see how serious these feds are about their gun grabbing
[01:38:06.440 --> 01:38:11.440]  and enforcing these executive orders that they are blowing hot air about,
[01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:20.440]  because I don't see the feds and the ATF storming the state of Texas and banging down the doors of every convicted felon
[01:38:20.440 --> 01:38:26.440]  here in the state of Texas to see if they've actually got a firearm or not to try to see if they are violating federal law
[01:38:26.440 --> 01:38:30.440]  or not, because apparently in the state of Texas, they're allowed to own firearms.
[01:38:30.440 --> 01:38:32.440]  So that's, we have discuss this on the air.
[01:38:32.440 --> 01:38:39.440]  And you're absolutely correct, because you can't go into the gun store and purchase a firearm as a convicted felon,
[01:38:39.440 --> 01:38:42.440]  but you can get it from a private sale, so you're absolutely correct.
[01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:47.440]  Right, because the FFL dealer, you can't go into the gun store and buy it,
[01:38:47.440 --> 01:38:53.440]  because of course that FFL dealer is going to be part of that whole federal system.
[01:38:53.440 --> 01:39:00.440]  And we did talk about this some last week with Larry talking about getting full autos
[01:39:00.440 --> 01:39:07.440]  if you sign some kind of agreement with the ATF to allow them to come into your home or residence
[01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:11.440]  or place of business at any time they feel like it to inspect the equipment
[01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:14.440]  then you can under federal regulation have full auto.
[01:39:14.440 --> 01:39:18.440]  And we were discussing how that is not a violation of your fourth amendment,
[01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:21.440]  because it's all by agreement.
[01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:27.440]  If you sign it, if you enter a contract with the federal government, you do that voluntarily,
[01:39:27.440 --> 01:39:31.440]  you put your name on the dotted line, you enter that commercial nexus with them,
[01:39:31.440 --> 01:39:35.440]  then you are obliged to the terms of the contract, you know?
[01:39:35.440 --> 01:39:39.440]  And as far as the convicted felons in Texas, like Michael's saying,
[01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:44.440]  you can't go and purchase it from an FFL dealer because you're going to be on the list.
[01:39:44.440 --> 01:39:47.440]  And in fact, I think they may even call the police on you, all right?
[01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:50.440]  But in the state of Texas, you could still own a firearm,
[01:39:50.440 --> 01:39:53.440]  so that means that you would have to get through private sale.
[01:39:53.440 --> 01:40:01.440]  And hey, you don't have a right to purchase a firearm from a federal licensed dealer.
[01:40:01.440 --> 01:40:06.440]  You may have a right to acquire one by a legal means.
[01:40:06.440 --> 01:40:12.440]  You may have a right to own one, but you don't have a right to purchase one from an FFL dealer,
[01:40:12.440 --> 01:40:14.440]  so it's not really a violation.
[01:40:14.440 --> 01:40:19.440]  But again, I don't see the feds storming the state of Texas, you know,
[01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:23.440]  invading every home of every convicted felon in the state of Texas
[01:40:23.440 --> 01:40:27.440]  to see whether they're violating federal law or not, and probably for obvious reasons.
[01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:30.440]  So does that answer your question, Walter?
[01:40:30.440 --> 01:40:33.440]  I think this is good an answer as I'm going to be able to find.
[01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:35.440]  I really appreciate you guys.
[01:40:35.440 --> 01:40:38.440]  Yes, and if you would like, you can go back and listen to our archives.
[01:40:38.440 --> 01:40:41.440]  Our archives are free on LogosRadioNetwork.com.
[01:40:41.440 --> 01:40:43.440]  Just click on the archive link.
[01:40:43.440 --> 01:40:47.440]  The last two Thursdays, we have had Larry Weist on discussing gun laws.
[01:40:47.440 --> 01:40:49.440]  He's very familiar with all the gun laws in Texas.
[01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:52.440]  He has his own show now, God and Guns on Saturdays,
[01:40:52.440 --> 01:40:57.440]  and you can listen to the archives on the archive page as well from that show.
[01:40:57.440 --> 01:40:58.440]  Okay?
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:40:59.440]  Well, God bless.
[01:40:59.440 --> 01:41:00.440]  Thank you, Walter.
[01:41:00.440 --> 01:41:01.440]  All right, God bless, Walter.
[01:41:01.440 --> 01:41:03.440]  All right, now we have Dallas in Texas.
[01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:05.440]  Dallas, thank you for calling in tonight.
[01:41:05.440 --> 01:41:09.440]  What is your question or comment for Michael Cargill?
[01:41:09.440 --> 01:41:10.440]  Hey, good evening.
[01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:12.440]  I had a couple of comments.
[01:41:12.440 --> 01:41:17.440]  The intent is in the heart, criminals, it doesn't matter, licenses or not,
[01:41:17.440 --> 01:41:21.440]  what regulations these federal employees of federal corporation pass.
[01:41:21.440 --> 01:41:28.440]  They're going to obtain, by whatever means necessary, to do what they intend to do.
[01:41:28.440 --> 01:41:33.440]  The question I had for the firearms dealer was, why do you not,
[01:41:33.440 --> 01:41:38.440]  I hear you speaking as a big advocate for the concealed carry permit.
[01:41:38.440 --> 01:41:44.440]  Why do you not feel like that in itself is not a restriction on the Second Amendment?
[01:41:44.440 --> 01:41:46.440]  Well, you're absolutely correct.
[01:41:46.440 --> 01:41:47.440]  I love the state of Vermont.
[01:41:47.440 --> 01:41:52.440]  In the state of Vermont, everyone can carry openly or concealed without a CHO.
[01:41:52.440 --> 01:41:54.440]  And I love the state of Vermont.
[01:41:54.440 --> 01:41:56.440]  I wish every state was like that.
[01:41:56.440 --> 01:42:00.440]  Certainly what I would be in favor of.
[01:42:00.440 --> 01:42:02.440]  We've had firearms in the families.
[01:42:02.440 --> 01:42:06.440]  I mean, we were deer hunting since I was old enough to stand and hold a rifle.
[01:42:06.440 --> 01:42:10.440]  You know, it's a huge part of American history.
[01:42:10.440 --> 01:42:14.440]  It's what allowed us to allegedly break away from England.
[01:42:14.440 --> 01:42:22.440]  And if people can't see the writing on the wall, I think we're in a lot of trouble.
[01:42:22.440 --> 01:42:27.440]  And I appreciate you guys putting the information out there for us.
[01:42:27.440 --> 01:42:28.440]  Thank you.
[01:42:28.440 --> 01:42:29.440]  You're absolutely correct.
[01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:31.440]  And I encourage people to go to the Texas State Capitol.
[01:42:31.440 --> 01:42:34.440]  You know, talk to your state rep, your state senator.
[01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:36.440]  We need to have open carry in this state.
[01:42:36.440 --> 01:42:39.440]  We actually need to have constitutional carry in this state.
[01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:42.440]  We shouldn't have to get a concealed hanger license program.
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:43.440]  You know, we shouldn't have one at all.
[01:42:43.440 --> 01:42:49.440]  We should be able to have the right to have that firearm, you know, without, you know, having to get a CHO.
[01:42:49.440 --> 01:42:53.440]  Without having to get fingerprints, you know, we shouldn't have to do that.
[01:42:53.440 --> 01:42:55.440]  But we do.
[01:42:55.440 --> 01:42:58.440]  And so I wish we were like the state of Vermont.
[01:42:58.440 --> 01:42:59.440]  I really do.
[01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:09.440]  Because in the state of Vermont, that is the only state that does not have a concealed hanger license program and everyone can carry openly or concealed.
[01:43:09.440 --> 01:43:10.440]  Yeah.
[01:43:10.440 --> 01:43:11.440]  And you know what, Michael?
[01:43:11.440 --> 01:43:14.440]  This whole concealed carry thing in Texas was a scam.
[01:43:14.440 --> 01:43:28.440]  It was like a Trojan horse because from my understanding of the history of the legislature and the laws regarding this, you actually could carry open in the state of Texas before they had the concealed handgun permit.
[01:43:28.440 --> 01:43:31.440]  But you were not allowed to carry concealed.
[01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:39.440]  And so they brought in the concealed handgun license to give people quote, unquote, permission to carry concealed.
[01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:42.440]  But then they did away with open carry at the same time.
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:48.440]  So that was actually a step in the reverse direction for our right to bear arms.
[01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:51.440]  Dallas, just hang on the line here.
[01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:53.440]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:53.440 --> 01:43:57.440]  We were coming into our final segment with Michael Cargill Hill here on the rule of law.
[01:43:57.440 --> 01:43:59.440]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:13.440 --> 01:46:20.440]  Okay folks, we are back. We're coming into our final segment here with Michael Cargill, CentralTexasGunworks.com.
[01:46:20.440 --> 01:46:25.440]  He offers beginner pistol classes, concealed handgun classes, advanced pistol classes.
[01:46:25.440 --> 01:46:32.440]  I encourage everyone to become educated and trained, learn how to use your firearm, learn the laws surrounding your state.
[01:46:32.440 --> 01:46:43.440]  Michael, I don't see, even though the bad guys are up there blowing a lot of hot air, blowing off a lot of steam about wanting to take our guns away,
[01:46:43.440 --> 01:46:49.440]  I just don't see him doing it in a forceful way because it's going to be too messy and they know it.
[01:46:49.440 --> 01:46:54.440]  They know people are not going to tolerate house-to-house gun confiscation.
[01:46:54.440 --> 01:46:59.440]  People are not going to put up with it. There will be a percentage of gun owners that will not relinquish their guns.
[01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:04.440]  They will fire back if fired upon. They absolutely will not do it.
[01:47:04.440 --> 01:47:12.440]  It's just going to turn into too much of a mess. It's too messy to do something like that. It's not their style.
[01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:17.440]  It's not their style. They don't want to force us into something like that.
[01:47:17.440 --> 01:47:25.440]  What their style is, is to get us to beg for our slavery. That is their style and so they're going to use it through propaganda.
[01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:30.440]  They're going to do it through the medical system and things like that.
[01:47:30.440 --> 01:47:35.440]  Asking the kids at school, do your parents have guns and all these sorts of things.
[01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:39.440]  You won't be able to get certain privileges on and on and on.
[01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:46.440]  I just don't see them going house-to-house confiscating people's guns in a major gun grab because it's going to be too messy.
[01:47:46.440 --> 01:47:50.440]  It's not their style and they're already not doing it.
[01:47:50.440 --> 01:48:02.440]  They know that convicted felons in Texas have guns. They know it because the state law allows it and they're not doing anything about it.
[01:48:02.440 --> 01:48:06.440]  I call their bluff. What do you say about it, Michael?
[01:48:06.440 --> 01:48:11.440]  You're absolutely correct. That's why I support Representative Tull.
[01:48:11.440 --> 01:48:21.440]  We need to stand with him. He's a new state rep and he's bringing a bill and he's saying we need to stop what the federal government is doing here in the state of Texas.
[01:48:21.440 --> 01:48:28.440]  Yes, absolutely. Thank you for bringing that up because I meant to ask you your take on that and then I forgot because I started ranting.
[01:48:28.440 --> 01:48:35.440]  But yes, for the listeners who don't know, why don't you explain what this bill is that has been introduced by Representative Tull?
[01:48:35.440 --> 01:48:48.440]  It's actually provides for felony. It would modify the penal code for federal gun grabbers.
[01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:51.440]  Go ahead. Tell us about it, Michael.
[01:48:51.440 --> 01:48:59.440]  I actually don't know all the details surrounding it, but I'm actually going to sit down with some people.
[01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:11.440]  We're actually going to discuss this bill and we're going to look at how we can get the ball rolling and get everyone supported and back in this bill so we can get it passed.
[01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:21.440]  Along with his bill, Representative Tull, along with open carry, along with concealed carry on campus, those are some of the things that we need to focus on here in the state of Texas.
[01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:34.440]  We need to get back to our constitutional rights and being able to carry constitutionally. We need to get the federal government to keep their business, stay out of our homes, stay out of our bedrooms.
[01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:50.440]  Keep your hands off of my guns. Tell Senator Feinstein to get your hands off my guns. I'm not going to bring my guns in and pay a $200 tax stamp and have you do a background check for guns that are already home.
[01:49:50.440 --> 01:50:02.440]  No way. What she's done, this is what she's done. She's released a list of guns that she's coming after. Here's what you need to do. Take that list and go buy one of those guns.
[01:50:02.440 --> 01:50:16.440]  Go buy one and keep them home. By the time this federal government, by the time Congress decides what guns they're going to try to ban, I tell you what, every American in the United States will own 10 of those guns they're trying to ban.
[01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:28.440]  I love it. Wonderful idea. We do have Dallas from Texas that is still on the line here. Dallas, sorry, you got cut off by the break. Would you like to finish up speaking with Michael?
[01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:53.440]  Yes, I do agree with what you said. Of course door-to-door confiscation will be far too messy and far too unlikely to succeed. But much like the alleged war on drugs and the DARE programs that they started back in the early 80s in the schools, that's what I see the criminals in Washington rolling out to us next.
[01:50:53.440 --> 01:51:12.440]  So be aware of it, look for it and keep that in mind. Absolutely. What I have to say about that is they want to talk about prohibition on guns. How are those other prohibitions working out for you? How is that drug prohibition working out for you?
[01:51:12.440 --> 01:51:41.440]  How did the alcohol prohibition work out back in the day? I don't think that works too well because what happens with prohibition is that all it does is create a black market and it makes whatever is being prohibited by law sexy and cool, and so it makes people want it more, and then it just creates a market for criminals and drives the prices up, and then what ends up happening is that the government ends up being the big mafia gang that's the big supplier and has a monopoly on everything.
[01:51:41.440 --> 01:51:58.440]  It's ridiculous. It's stupid. And this whole business about the 1.6 billion bullets? What is that all about? Are they planning on getting into a major war with the American people? Are they just trying to buy up all the bullets so that we can't have any? Are they trying to drive the prices up?
[01:51:58.440 --> 01:52:17.440]  I think it would be an interesting case study to look and see if people like Obama and Feinstein and Biden and all these people, let's see how much stock they own in some of these gun companies like Ruger, et cetera. I bet they own a mint. I bet they own thousands and thousands of shares.
[01:52:17.440 --> 01:52:38.440]  They go, hey, you know, there you go. It's perfect. You get a position of government. You start blowing a lot of hot air about gun confiscation and then go buy up all the stock in the gun companies. They're probably just totally rolling in dough right now from their personal investments in these gun companies because they know that everyone's going to be buying up the guns when they start talking about taking them.
[01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:42.440]  I mean, it's just, it makes me sick, okay?
[01:52:42.440 --> 01:52:49.440]  And it's important. People need to set up for their constitutional rights. We need to stand up and say, we're not going to take it anymore.
[01:52:49.440 --> 01:53:01.440]  Send a message. We need to send a message to Groupon. We need to send a message to any company out there, Geico, anyone that's out there that's saying that they are targeting, they're punishing lawful gun ownership in this country.
[01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:13.440]  You know, Groupon is saying, hey, we are going to target those people who are taking the time out of their busy schedule to learn safety, to learn the law surrounding those firearms, to learn conflict resolution.
[01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:23.440]  A person that's going to sit through a 10-hour course, we're punishing that individual there. We're saying, you're the bad person, and that's not something that we should do in this country. We need to go after the criminals.
[01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:35.440]  What do we say to that 80-year-old woman who contacted me last week and said that she wanted to take a concealed handgun license course because she was sexually assaulted by a repeat sex offender?
[01:53:35.440 --> 01:53:44.440]  What do we say to her? She contacted Groupon and she said she wanted to get the deal, where the Groupon had canceled that deal and told her she couldn't get it.
[01:53:44.440 --> 01:53:50.440]  So she contacted me and I told her, you know, not only am I going to give you the class, I'm going to give you the class for a free.
[01:53:50.440 --> 01:54:04.440]  That's what we do. We need to protect the women, you know, in this country. You know, we need to, you know, taking the time out of their schedule to learn safety and we need to do that.
[01:54:04.440 --> 01:54:11.440]  Absolutely. I appreciate the support. I really do. And I know all the ladies out there do too. I know that I'm packing.
[01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:26.440]  You know, anybody that tries to do anything to me, they're probably not going to walk away at all. All right. And speaking of Groupon here, we do have the address for Groupon.
[01:54:26.440 --> 01:54:48.440]  The corporate offices is 600 West Chicago Avenue, Suite 620, Chicago, Illinois, 60654. That is six, boy, a lot of sixes in there with the 666 figures. You got 600 West Chicago Avenue, Suite 620, Chicago, Illinois, 60654.
[01:54:48.440 --> 01:55:09.440]  And we've only got a few minutes left. Michael, we did have one of the questions come in. They, Lisa wants me to ask you if there's a place on your website or if you can direct people where to go to see the Texas gun laws and also possibly where folks can go to find out what the gun laws are in their state.
[01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:26.440]  Yes, definitely go to your state police in your state. If you're in Texas, you can go to Texas Department of Public Safety, their website, or you can go to centraltexasgunnerworks.com to find out, you know, the laws or how you can, you cannot carry.
[01:55:26.440 --> 01:55:40.440]  If you just want to sit in a class, you're not interested in getting a concealed handgun license, I'll let you sit in my class for free so you can learn the laws, because it's important that when you're pulled over by law enforcement, you know what your rights are.
[01:55:40.440 --> 01:55:54.440]  You need to know your rights, because if you don't know your rights, then they'll take them away from you. You need to know what the laws are in your state so you can, you know, effectively debate the issue and know when a police officer is pulling your leg.
[01:55:54.440 --> 01:55:59.440]  Because they are allowed to lie to you, but you are not allowed to lie to them.
[01:55:59.440 --> 01:56:13.440]  Yeah, they are definitely allowed to lie to you. The courts have ruled that over and over. Randy and I discuss that all the time. Folks, we are coming up to the end of the show. We've got about two minutes left.
[01:56:13.440 --> 01:56:32.440]  So again, if a $20 donation will get your name in the hat for the AR-15 giveaway. First prize is in a Rock River AR-15. Second prize is a lower receiver for an AR-15, the Spikes Tactical Spider.
[01:56:32.440 --> 01:56:48.440]  That is donated by Michael Cargill of Central Texas Gun Works. You can go to LogosRadioNetwork.com to read more and see how to donate. I will accept checks, silver, cash, money orders if you need to mail it.
[01:56:48.440 --> 01:56:58.440]  Or you could drop it off at Brave New Books for me here in Austin, or you could use the PayPal. Michael, any last thoughts here for us?
[01:56:58.440 --> 01:57:08.440]  Yeah, you know, you remind me of my great-grandfather. My great-grandfather was 96 when he died. And my great-grandfather was a retired minister.
[01:57:08.440 --> 01:57:16.440]  My great-grandfather used to always have this Bible with him. And he used to say, Michael, I like to bring everyone to Lord. He would always have that Bible with him.
[01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:26.440]  He would say, Michael, I like to bring everyone to Lord. Well, my great-grandfather used to open up that Bible. In the middle of that Bible, there was a hole cut out.
[01:57:26.440 --> 01:57:37.440]  And he would reach his hands into that Bible. He would take out this revolver. And he'd say, when I cannot bring them to the Lord, I will send them to the Lord.
[01:57:37.440 --> 01:57:55.440]  And so I'm calling on every American, and I can repeat this enough, who believes in the right of the safe lawful gun ownership to join me in refusing to hand over even one red cent to an organization that clearly has no respect for those of us who weather for recreation.
[01:57:55.440 --> 01:58:00.440]  Or personal protection, choose to exercise their constitutional right.
[01:58:00.440 --> 01:58:14.440]  So contact Groupon and let them know at 1-888-375-5777. That's 888-375-5777.
[01:58:14.440 --> 01:58:26.440]  Let them know that you are boycotting them because of their stance of our lawful gun ownership in this country. That's 888-375-5777.
[01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:28.440]  All right. My name is Michael.
[01:58:28.440 --> 01:58:34.440]  Yes, this is Michael Cargill, the owner of Central Texas Gun Works, CentralTexasGunWorks.com. We are out of time.
[01:58:34.440 --> 01:58:44.440]  But tune in tomorrow night at 8 p.m. for our four-hour info marathon every Friday night at 8 p.m. here on the Locust Radio Network with Randy Kelton.
[01:58:44.440 --> 01:59:07.440]  Tomorrow night at 8 p.m. Good night, folks, and God bless.
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