ROL_2012-12-21_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:06.900]  If you shop online, chances are a vendor is sizing you up and setting prices according
[00:06.900 --> 00:08.400]  to what they think you'll pay.
[00:08.400 --> 00:12.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back in a moment with some tips to protect yourself
[00:12.600 --> 00:15.320]  from discriminatory pricing.
[00:15.320 --> 00:17.040]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:17.040 --> 00:20.640]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:20.640 --> 00:25.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:25.640 --> 00:30.600]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[00:30.600 --> 00:33.440]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.160 --> 00:48.280]  Internet retailers are hunting for easy prey in the online jungle.
[00:48.280 --> 00:52.320]  Without warning, they might charge you more than another customer for the exact same item
[00:52.320 --> 00:54.960]  based on your web browser and visit history.
[00:54.960 --> 01:00.080]  Capital One Bank reportedly charges higher interest rates to Firefox users and Amazon
[01:00.080 --> 01:05.560]  got caught raising prices based on buyer cookies, code stored on people's computer that link
[01:05.560 --> 01:06.560]  to their purchase history.
[01:06.560 --> 01:08.560]  Well, this is infuriating.
[01:08.560 --> 01:10.160]  It's perfectly legal.
[01:10.160 --> 01:14.720]  Your best defense is to delete cookies, shop around for the best price, make notes and
[01:14.720 --> 01:16.360]  take your sweet time.
[01:16.360 --> 01:20.200]  And before you make a large purchase, you may want to have someone else check the deal using
[01:20.200 --> 01:21.800]  a different computer and browser.
[01:21.800 --> 01:34.520]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:34.520 --> 01:39.800]  Microchip, scanners and cookies, oh my, don't look now, but here comes the e-receipt.
[01:39.800 --> 01:45.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back to explain the dangers of paperless receipts
[01:45.120 --> 01:47.040]  in just a moment.
[01:47.040 --> 01:48.640]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.640 --> 01:52.280]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.280 --> 01:57.040]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:57.040 --> 02:02.040]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:02.040 --> 02:04.800]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:14.840 --> 02:18.840]  First, retailers started asking for your zip code.
[02:18.840 --> 02:24.320]  Next, they wanted your phone number and now they want your email address to send you receipts
[02:24.320 --> 02:27.840]  electronically rather than handing you a slip of paper.
[02:27.840 --> 02:30.080]  Companies don't mention what this does to your privacy.
[02:30.080 --> 02:34.840]  Instead, they claim it's more convenient and hey, it may even save a few trees.
[02:34.840 --> 02:39.840]  But e-receipts link you to your purchases in a giant database so they can build consumer
[02:39.840 --> 02:40.840]  profiles.
[02:40.840 --> 02:45.200]  Smiler adds to individual shoppers and sell your information to third parties.
[02:45.200 --> 02:50.560]  Having all your purchases in an online database sounds like an open invitation to hacking
[02:50.560 --> 02:54.560]  and abuse, not to mention an onslaught from unscrupulous marketers.
[02:54.560 --> 02:56.680]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:56.680 --> 03:24.680]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:26.680 --> 03:51.440]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Google All Radio, except it's
[03:51.440 --> 04:00.160]  only Eddie Kelton tonight, everybody says tonight off, this is our four hour info marathon
[04:00.160 --> 04:03.520]  on the last day of the world.
[04:03.520 --> 04:09.440]  We have been waiting for this day a long time and you folks get to be here with me on the
[04:09.440 --> 04:13.320]  air at the end of the world.
[04:13.320 --> 04:25.080]  And according to the Aztec calendar, we'll end on the winter solstice of the year 2012.
[04:25.080 --> 04:30.960]  Tonight is the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year and we will leave the house
[04:30.960 --> 04:36.040]  of Pisces and move to the house of Aquarius.
[04:36.040 --> 04:42.600]  The world as we knew it will end and a new world will open up to us.
[04:42.600 --> 04:48.520]  That is, unless the aliens show up and change everything.
[04:48.520 --> 04:55.400]  But not holding my breath for the aliens, I'm going to go to someone that I've known
[04:55.400 --> 05:02.440]  for a number of years, I plan to bring him on next week, his name is Lance Flores, ex
[05:02.440 --> 05:12.400]  Vietnam veteran, Vietnam combat veteran, injured veteran, and videographer.
[05:12.400 --> 05:18.160]  And we talked for a long time several years ago about him doing some film work.
[05:18.160 --> 05:25.120]  One of the films he was going to produce was the Black Messiah murders.
[05:25.120 --> 05:34.560]  This was a story about the FBI murdering, what's his name, the Black Messiah, I'll
[05:34.560 --> 05:43.520]  take it in a minute, I'm getting old, somebody told me they had a great memory, I lost it.
[05:43.520 --> 05:44.520]  He blew it really bad.
[05:44.520 --> 05:51.280]  But he had two movies, one of them was Black Messiah murders, Malcolm X in Chicago.
[05:51.280 --> 05:57.720]  They actually interviewed the guy who lived next door, this was in a tenement.
[05:57.720 --> 06:03.880]  The FBI came up into the tenement, broke into the apartment, killed everybody in the apartment.
[06:03.880 --> 06:07.680]  And this guy was eight or ten years old at the time.
[06:07.680 --> 06:11.800]  And the FBI just told him just to be quiet and send him back into the apartment.
[06:11.800 --> 06:16.560]  Well, he's still living in the same place.
[06:16.560 --> 06:23.440]  They actually interviewed him for this movie he intended to do.
[06:23.440 --> 06:33.480]  But in the process of trying to get the movies financed, he wound up with someone making
[06:33.480 --> 06:38.880]  a movie about him trying to get the movies financed.
[06:38.880 --> 06:47.600]  Because he fell into one of the largest RICO lawsuits in the history of this country.
[06:47.600 --> 06:54.680]  I'm going to read you at least parts of a press release on this issue.
[06:54.680 --> 07:02.440]  An American and a Canadian may well have a tiger by the tail in their one billion, seventy
[07:02.440 --> 07:09.160]  one thousand dollar cause a criminal racketeering action against an illegal international cyber
[07:09.160 --> 07:11.200]  crime syndicate.
[07:11.200 --> 07:16.960]  The case is expected to exceed one point five billion in damages after two Americans in
[07:16.960 --> 07:26.120]  a British plaintiff intervened late in the late in the RICO 18 years code and 1962 case.
[07:26.120 --> 07:32.400]  Lance Flores from Dallas and Vicky Clarkson from Calgary have gone well beyond the civil
[07:32.400 --> 07:38.000]  or criminal attempts to stop this worldwide criminal organization, mounted thus far by
[07:38.000 --> 07:40.600]  any government authority.
[07:40.600 --> 07:45.920]  This is headed on a course to be the largest white collar crime of its type in US history
[07:45.920 --> 07:54.120]  and is expected to exceed five hundred fifty million dollar judgment award against Goldman
[07:54.120 --> 08:02.600]  Sachs in the SEC hundred seven billion dollar lawsuit against Goldman Sachs group says Ken
[08:02.600 --> 08:09.000]  Gamble, a G2, a well-known expert in cyber crimes now involved in the investigation.
[08:09.000 --> 08:16.960]  The scam, the duo from Dallas and Calgary invested money to enhance assets for Flores.
[08:16.960 --> 08:24.520]  Flores is a film project slate in order to incorporate the cash flow for a completed
[08:24.520 --> 08:27.040]  movie being added to the slate.
[08:27.040 --> 08:39.560]  Clarkson's Financia Enhancement Portion of the Cover, Flores was contracted by a man
[08:39.560 --> 08:48.440]  named Kermyn Emery, EMRE, through the movie industry, contacts representing Alicorn,
[08:48.440 --> 08:57.520]  ALSCO, and Capital Management out of Minnesota, owned and operated by Scott A. Costa of Malacca,
[08:57.520 --> 08:59.080]  Minnesota.
[08:59.080 --> 09:04.760]  Flores was informed about several resources for asset enhancement available, but presented
[09:04.760 --> 09:12.360]  the faster, but pressed the faster return of a financial product from Costa's Alicorn
[09:12.360 --> 09:19.120]  Company which would provide the short-term needs for Flores and Clarkson's projects.
[09:19.120 --> 09:25.880]  The account was to be managed by EMRE and another broker and account manager John T.
[09:25.880 --> 09:28.760]  Charles out of their California office.
[09:28.760 --> 09:35.160]  The Alicorn Group would arrange for the asset enhancement funds to be held and the coupon
[09:35.160 --> 09:47.640]  payments or earnings would be moved through an escrow and Paymaster IOLTA account at Global
[09:47.640 --> 09:51.440]  Paymasters by Attorney David Kaplan.
[09:51.440 --> 09:55.720]  The due diligence was proved up by Kaplan and his organization and his grudges was solid
[09:55.720 --> 10:02.240]  and unblemished and the transaction was completed based on the documents and evidence of Kaplan's
[10:02.240 --> 10:03.240]  papers.
[10:03.240 --> 10:12.240]  It would not be uncovered until Flores' inquiry for IRS 1099W9 reporting on earnings and
[10:12.240 --> 10:19.760]  Charles and Costa's payments that the trial had stolen and were engaging in identity theft
[10:19.760 --> 10:26.560]  to provide credibility of their client financial security apparatus in the trade profit sharing
[10:26.560 --> 10:27.560]  program.
[10:27.560 --> 10:36.400]  The group had stolen Kaplan's identity by name, state bar number, address, telephone
[10:36.400 --> 10:41.440]  numbers, IOLTA bank account, etc.
[10:41.440 --> 10:47.840]  The illegal use of stolen ideas and fraudulent association with credible individuals and
[10:47.840 --> 10:53.960]  entities has become the alleged distinguishing characteristic and criminal method by Costner
[10:53.960 --> 10:57.920]  and his Malacca gang.
[10:57.920 --> 11:08.200]  Costner is now being investigated for his implication of the Narayana Koker Lakota, CEO of the Federal
[11:08.200 --> 11:14.760]  Reserve Bank of Minnesota in the affairs of another illegal financial scam in the UK.
[11:14.760 --> 11:21.680]  We've spoken to the FRB, I'll now be the Federal Reserve Bank of Minnesota attorney, and have
[11:21.680 --> 11:31.520]  asked for a sworn statement from Dr. Koker Lakota, responded Flores, but we haven't received
[11:31.520 --> 11:32.520]  a response.
[11:32.520 --> 11:40.200]  Flores continued, Mr. Ms. Clarkson is pressing for deposition, I'm in accord with her.
[11:40.200 --> 11:45.480]  We've lost Costner a year because of avoidance of service, concealment of evidence, perjury
[11:45.480 --> 11:52.360]  and suborning of perjury by Defendant Council as well as enuminal delay tactics.
[11:52.360 --> 11:59.640]  We're fed up with it, and if it means dragging the next offender up the courthouse steps
[11:59.640 --> 12:02.560]  for contempt, we will do it.
[12:02.560 --> 12:15.440]  The Malacca gang's alleged brokering of the illegal financial are tied directly to activities
[12:15.440 --> 12:23.680]  of Mark Galazela, aka Mark Zella Hollywood, sometimes B-movie actor and pornography director
[12:23.680 --> 12:29.840]  working with Lance Mosley, a Hollywood sexual explicit movie maker.
[12:29.840 --> 12:35.480]  The Flores-Clarkson-Rico action also alleges Galazela and his business partner William
[12:35.480 --> 12:43.920]  Reynolds of Florida were part of the operational arm of Francis E. Wilde's cybercrime thefts
[12:43.920 --> 12:52.320]  as recruited into opera where proof of the deal was provided, but the investigators including
[12:52.320 --> 12:55.360]  Flores and Clarkson's were never paid.
[12:55.360 --> 13:01.040]  The complaint alleges that Costner and his group initiated a number of fraud deaths worldwide
[13:01.040 --> 13:08.640]  on behalf of Galazela of Hollywood and his idyllic holdings, the trust partner, Reynolds
[13:08.640 --> 13:14.280]  and the syndicate's godfather Francis Wilde of Dallas.
[13:14.280 --> 13:21.000]  The Wilde gang's money man Bruce Haglund of Irving, California moved most of the money
[13:21.000 --> 13:27.520]  while Branson, Missouri self-proclaimed country performer and songwriter Steven E. Woods,
[13:27.520 --> 13:39.800]  Steven E. Woods, its only money, I guess that's his song, aided in the fraud theft and instrumental
[13:39.800 --> 13:46.880]  in a number of large thefts and scams, one theft led by Wilde gang members, Woods and
[13:46.880 --> 13:53.440]  John Divant and Beverly Hill Hollywood Lawyer. The theft was valued to be well over a billion
[13:53.440 --> 14:02.160]  dollars in the multiple negotiation securities and cash theft. Federal Judge Stefan V. Wilson
[14:02.160 --> 14:10.920]  found, in short, the court finds that Divins created a scheme to defraud bets and gambles
[14:10.920 --> 14:23.720]  and amadrea and to steal their assets. His Divins testimony is not credible. This goes
[14:23.720 --> 14:37.360]  on to describe a level of fraud on a level that I had never imagined and it goes to something
[14:37.360 --> 14:49.560]  I've been noticing that you would think that when we're dealing with large amounts of money
[14:49.560 --> 14:56.720]  that people would be much smarter, they would be much more careful, they would get things
[14:56.720 --> 15:07.680]  out much better and be less susceptible to fraud scams. Turns out that's not the case.
[15:07.680 --> 15:15.400]  It actually seems that the more money involved, the less due diligence the people involved
[15:15.400 --> 15:22.880]  tend to take. Maybe this is because these people move around so much money that like
[15:22.880 --> 15:28.920]  the reference to the song, it's only money that somehow it begins to lose some of its
[15:28.920 --> 15:36.040]  importance. I know if you or I stole a billion or half a billion dollars, they would want
[15:36.040 --> 15:42.400]  to hang us up by our toenails. These guys steal all these incredible amounts of money
[15:42.400 --> 15:48.640]  and the government seems either unable or unwilling to do anything about it. They just
[15:48.640 --> 16:00.680]  let it happen. For me, these levels of finances are absolutely mind-stabbing. It's hard for
[16:00.680 --> 16:08.960]  me to wrap my head around numbers this large, but next week we plan on having Lance and
[16:08.960 --> 16:16.120]  Vicki on to talk about this case which could well be one of the largest fraud cases in
[16:16.120 --> 16:22.520]  American history. And I'm sure hoping he wins the case because I've already told him that
[16:22.520 --> 16:29.640]  as soon as he wins this case that I want him to put my name on the top of the list of all
[16:29.640 --> 16:36.320]  the good buddies and lost relations he didn't know he had. Okay, this is Randy Kellogg,
[16:36.320 --> 16:41.120]  Deborah Stevens at the Craig River Radio and we will go on to some other issues when
[16:41.120 --> 16:44.640]  we get back on the other side. I've got a couple of things I want to talk about tonight.
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[19:21.720 --> 19:45.040]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephen, J.D. Craig, rule of law radio. And we have
[19:45.040 --> 20:00.840]  caught up with the High Calvary Journalist.
[20:00.840 --> 20:03.640]  Well, how are you?
[20:03.640 --> 20:10.120]  I want to hear, I want to hear, you are on, I want to hear about your grand jury experience.
[20:10.120 --> 20:11.440]  You spoke to that the other day.
[20:11.440 --> 20:12.440]  Okay.
[20:12.440 --> 20:15.320]  I'd like to hear more about that.
[20:15.320 --> 20:17.800]  Plain jury, not grand jury.
[20:17.800 --> 20:20.120]  Oh, yeah, you're a pediatrics.
[20:20.120 --> 20:21.120]  Regular jury.
[20:21.120 --> 20:23.120]  Did I say grand jury?
[20:23.120 --> 20:24.120]  Oops.
[20:24.120 --> 20:25.120]  I think so, yeah.
[20:25.120 --> 20:26.720]  Maybe I'm just stuck on grand jury.
[20:26.720 --> 20:27.720]  I wish it were.
[20:27.720 --> 20:34.400]  No, it was very interesting and we talked about it, I know, a little bit offline, but
[20:34.400 --> 20:40.440]  what I did want to say is in lieu of all of the shooting thing, it was very interesting
[20:40.440 --> 20:51.120]  because during the Vordyre, the prosecuting attorney had slides and she went through all
[20:51.120 --> 20:56.200]  kinds of definitions of, you know, do you know what a fault is and do you know what
[20:56.200 --> 21:03.920]  this is and do you know what that is and so the charge against the young man was a fault
[21:03.920 --> 21:12.080]  and she made a great pain to distinguish the difference between assault and aggravated
[21:12.080 --> 21:20.640]  assault and she showed little puzzle pieces and one of her slides had three puzzle pieces
[21:20.640 --> 21:27.160]  and they looked completely disjoint and she was trying to make a point about reasonable
[21:27.160 --> 21:33.960]  doubt and she said, you know, if you had these three pieces of information, could you
[21:33.960 --> 21:39.080]  convict and it's like, would you have reasonable doubt to think that something's going on?
[21:39.080 --> 21:43.280]  And of course, everyone, yeah, yeah, you know, you couldn't convict on that so then she shows
[21:43.280 --> 21:50.360]  a puzzle completed with those three pieces missing and what was her puzzle?
[21:50.360 --> 21:58.360]  Her puzzle was the picture of a gun, a handgun with an IV going around on it and it's like,
[21:58.360 --> 22:09.600]  okay, and so the message became very clear to me that she was trying to make more of
[22:09.600 --> 22:17.200]  the particular case and she was making a political statement trying to make guns out to be bad
[22:17.200 --> 22:23.120]  and it was very interesting during Vordar, she just simply thought, you know, she just
[22:23.120 --> 22:27.000]  kept talking about reasonable doubt and she said, if you see this picture, would you have
[22:27.000 --> 22:32.960]  any doubt, enough doubt to say that that, you know, you can't recognize what this is
[22:32.960 --> 22:41.520]  and while it was an interesting example, I felt really politicized and preached to at
[22:41.520 --> 22:51.080]  that time and so other questions during Vordar were very interesting and they were very quick
[22:51.080 --> 22:56.960]  to just about tell us the whole case.
[22:56.960 --> 23:04.200]  Their questions were very pointed, you know, if you only had a 911 call to go on, would
[23:04.200 --> 23:06.720]  you feel comfortable with that?
[23:06.720 --> 23:12.400]  If a victim said that they had pain but there was no mark on them, would you consider pain
[23:12.400 --> 23:22.200]  to be enough to convict and on and on and that nature and so we went to and I was selected
[23:22.200 --> 23:30.840]  for the jury and it was very interesting so we came back the next day for the trial and
[23:30.840 --> 23:37.640]  as usual we sat in there and waited and waited and then the judge said, never mind, go home
[23:37.640 --> 23:40.560]  because the poor guy took a deal.
[23:40.560 --> 23:49.520]  So that was very distressing to me because we've all talked about the deals before and
[23:49.520 --> 24:01.480]  whether or not this was really an issue from Vordar, the feeling was that we really need
[24:01.480 --> 24:08.440]  to see what's going on here because it sounds like there really hasn't been any crime that
[24:08.440 --> 24:14.640]  someone has proof enough for the guy to be there and, you know, not making, you know,
[24:14.640 --> 24:17.800]  prejudgements at all but it was interesting.
[24:17.800 --> 24:22.200]  It was like, yeah, let's see what you got because you've led us to believe there's
[24:22.200 --> 24:27.920]  nothing here and so I thought it was just lovely.
[24:27.920 --> 24:39.240]  The two attorneys then asked the jury, would we mind staying and critiquing their Vordar
[24:39.240 --> 24:43.200]  and that was wonderful and it was like, boy, this is so cool.
[24:43.200 --> 24:51.200]  The judge came in, he wanted to hear and it was interesting to me through the kinds of
[24:51.200 --> 24:55.320]  questions that they asked and the way they asked them.
[24:55.320 --> 25:05.040]  It was interesting that they actually ended up with a jury of people that we started discussing
[25:05.040 --> 25:10.440]  among ourselves certain items and we were all in agreement and when the prosecuting
[25:10.440 --> 25:15.040]  attorney started saying, this is what we have and this is what we were going to ask you
[25:15.040 --> 25:24.840]  to look at, we had a 911 call and we had a police report and that was it and the defense
[25:24.840 --> 25:31.240]  attorney was saying, we were going to say, you know, that this guy had the right not
[25:31.240 --> 25:35.720]  to say anything at all and was that okay with you?
[25:35.720 --> 25:41.040]  In fact, they actually came right out and said, do you think that it's right that someone
[25:41.040 --> 25:50.320]  should be able to not speak on their own behalf and my response in Vordar was, well, can I
[25:50.320 --> 25:52.120]  say that on the air?
[25:52.120 --> 25:57.240]  Randy, do you remember, can I say that on the air?
[25:57.240 --> 25:58.240]  What I said?
[25:58.240 --> 26:02.280]  I don't remember as long as it's not really, really bad.
[26:02.280 --> 26:14.600]  It's not the bad one, but if we could not have a system amendment, we all are that.
[26:14.600 --> 26:19.840]  So intercourse, I think you can say intercourse.
[26:19.840 --> 26:20.840]  I can say intercourse?
[26:20.840 --> 26:21.840]  Okay.
[26:21.840 --> 26:22.840]  I think so.
[26:22.840 --> 26:23.840]  I think so.
[26:23.840 --> 26:24.840]  That's a form of communication.
[26:24.840 --> 26:33.440]  I trusted that way and for my effort, he actually said eloquently stated, so he agreed
[26:33.440 --> 26:34.440]  with me.
[26:34.440 --> 26:43.240]  But the kinds of questions, like I said, I certainly felt that they were trying to educate
[26:43.240 --> 26:51.360]  the jury potential jurors in ways that are contrary to the truth of our Constitution.
[26:51.360 --> 26:58.440]  They were going out of their way to define things in terms that would help them and not
[26:58.440 --> 27:03.160]  necessarily in terms that are, you know, right there.
[27:03.160 --> 27:08.320]  So I was very grateful, though, that we had an opportunity to give them feedback because
[27:08.320 --> 27:14.840]  we all agreed the feedback to the prosecuting attorney was there was no business for an
[27:14.840 --> 27:23.440]  image of a gun in a trial that was clearly said it's assault, it's not aggravated,
[27:23.440 --> 27:29.520]  it's a misdemeanor, you know, had it was almost like, oh, let's get these people all worked
[27:29.520 --> 27:37.160]  up and hang the guy, you know, because, but there was no reason for us to see an image
[27:37.160 --> 27:42.200]  of a weapon in any way, shape, or form in that radar.
[27:42.200 --> 27:49.120]  She took the criticism well because she, she honestly, it never crossed her mind.
[27:49.120 --> 27:52.800]  She had a surprised look on her face and she said, oh, we use that all the time.
[27:52.800 --> 27:53.800]  We all use that.
[27:53.800 --> 27:57.440]  It's like, she got that from somebody else and it's like, yeah, that's fine.
[27:57.440 --> 28:03.520]  Maybe if we're talking about a murder trial or something, but even then it's a political
[28:03.520 --> 28:09.560]  statement and it's leading and it's putting ideas in people's heads that don't belong
[28:09.560 --> 28:17.560]  there and in the middle of all that as, as you were speaking last Friday on pattern
[28:17.560 --> 28:25.000]  interruption and our protections and, and how we can change people's view by responding
[28:25.000 --> 28:29.520]  differently than they expect, that was all kind of hitting home with me when you were
[28:29.520 --> 28:35.280]  talking about it because I had just come from that jury experience when you're talking
[28:35.280 --> 28:36.280]  about it.
[28:36.280 --> 28:45.760]  Okay, I'm seeing that instinctively I interrupted them a few times and I got picked on the jury
[28:45.760 --> 28:53.280]  for it and I'm pretty sure that's why I got picked on the jury because the six of us who
[28:53.280 --> 28:56.960]  were selected were voicing.
[28:56.960 --> 29:04.120]  We were talking back and we were understanding and we were correcting as they were dishing
[29:04.120 --> 29:11.280]  out stuff and so with that I was really surprised that they actually selected us.
[29:11.280 --> 29:21.000]  That surprises me as well because it was my opinion that the lawyer would not seek intelligent
[29:21.000 --> 29:29.960]  perceptive jurors, but rather jurors who were easily led and who already held the preconceived
[29:29.960 --> 29:32.440]  notions that suited my position.
[29:32.440 --> 29:36.160]  That's right, and I think I have the answer.
[29:36.160 --> 29:40.200]  Okay, hang on Ms. Kathy, we're about to go to break.
[29:40.200 --> 29:45.160]  This is Randy Kelton, David Steeke, even Betty Craig, we have a radio, we're talking
[29:45.160 --> 29:49.880]  to Kathy in Austin, we'll pick this up on the other side about the jury, it's one of
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[32:20.320 --> 32:36.320]  Okay, we are back and we're talking to Taffy and Austin.
[32:36.320 --> 32:45.720]  Taffy, for those people who have never been on the radio, you kind of give us an overview
[32:45.720 --> 32:51.320]  of what someone can expect when they go down there, what happens and the kind of the order
[32:51.320 --> 32:53.320]  it occurs in.
[32:53.320 --> 32:55.320]  Oh, sure.
[32:55.320 --> 33:01.440]  This is Travis County and it was county court and it's the only thing I've been called for
[33:01.440 --> 33:07.400]  since I've been in Austin, but I actually in my lifetime have served on about six juries
[33:07.400 --> 33:14.320]  and I've done criminal and traffic and civil, so whatever else there is, I don't know, but
[33:14.320 --> 33:19.480]  in Travis County, they now have an online thing that I don't participate in so I don't
[33:19.480 --> 33:23.720]  know how the online thing works except that you go online and you give them all your information
[33:23.720 --> 33:26.640]  and they schedule a date for you.
[33:26.640 --> 33:34.840]  So what I did instead is when I got my summons, I drove over to the offices and they scheduled
[33:34.840 --> 33:41.280]  a date basically and said show up at this time at this court and if you give them all
[33:41.280 --> 33:47.760]  of your information, then they will email you ahead of time or they will send you a
[33:47.760 --> 33:53.280]  voicemail or a text message, I think, to tell you if your court date's canceled or if they
[33:53.280 --> 33:55.680]  don't need you or something like that.
[33:55.680 --> 34:05.760]  So what happened in my case, they had called, what, 60, 65 jurors for this court day and
[34:05.760 --> 34:13.680]  the morning of the day, they called the last half of the list and said don't come because
[34:13.680 --> 34:23.240]  they had made bargains, plea bargains for all of their, what do you call it, I lost
[34:23.240 --> 34:24.240]  it.
[34:24.240 --> 34:25.240]  Cases?
[34:25.240 --> 34:34.960]  Yeah, the, not the misdemeanors, what's the, not felonies, we're just a district and
[34:34.960 --> 34:38.880]  county because county only does misdemeanors.
[34:38.880 --> 34:46.440]  No, he said he had felony charges on his docket and they all pled out and so they sent half
[34:46.440 --> 34:52.320]  of the jury pool home and kept the other half because they then only needed six-man
[34:52.320 --> 35:00.520]  jury for what he had left and so that first half just got a call that morning and said
[35:00.520 --> 35:02.520]  don't show up.
[35:02.520 --> 35:05.080]  So 35 people were sitting there.
[35:05.080 --> 35:10.360]  We just showed up and just sit outside his court until they decide that there is going
[35:10.360 --> 35:16.640]  to be a trial and whoever's left on his docket that decides yes, we're going to go to trial,
[35:16.640 --> 35:21.840]  then he just calls them in and they start Vordar and that's what we did.
[35:21.840 --> 35:30.280]  So I showed up at the court about 1.30 and by five o'clock we were selected and everybody
[35:30.280 --> 35:31.960]  else went home.
[35:31.960 --> 35:37.240]  And the next morning we came in expecting them to have a trial.
[35:37.240 --> 35:45.400]  And so pretty much I think the county does it the same, they'll set a date and give you
[35:45.400 --> 35:52.440]  notice if you don't have to show up for some reason, whether it's either pled out or they
[35:52.440 --> 35:55.440]  don't have a trial for that day.
[35:55.440 --> 36:02.760]  Okay, so how many have you actually physically served on the jury?
[36:02.760 --> 36:06.880]  Yeah, five or six.
[36:06.880 --> 36:08.880]  How did that go?
[36:08.880 --> 36:15.240]  Well, one, we just everybody's eating and we hung the last five.
[36:15.240 --> 36:22.720]  What I'm really interested in is your perspective sitting as a juror.
[36:22.720 --> 36:30.720]  I once sat in on a mock trial as the judge and I was surprised at the difference in perspective.
[36:30.720 --> 36:38.280]  So as I kind of get your perspective, what you were thinking and what your relationship
[36:38.280 --> 36:41.320]  was to what was going on?
[36:41.320 --> 36:45.520]  Well, let me just take one as an example.
[36:45.520 --> 36:53.360]  The one that sticks in my mind as being the most interesting was a civil case and a young
[36:53.360 --> 37:03.920]  man had hurt his back falling off the steps at a train station and he had worked for the
[37:03.920 --> 37:08.840]  train company and they had laid him off.
[37:08.840 --> 37:13.360]  They had paid him for two years to go back to school and retrain and do all these things
[37:13.360 --> 37:18.520]  and he was hanging around bugging the guys trying to get a job at and he tripped and
[37:18.520 --> 37:19.520]  fell off the stand.
[37:19.520 --> 37:23.720]  He's suing them under workman's comp.
[37:23.720 --> 37:28.080]  He said that they owed it to him because he was at work and it's like, yeah, right,
[37:28.080 --> 37:30.880]  so come on, give me a break.
[37:30.880 --> 37:44.920]  So it was very interesting because the case was presented so that the defense side kept
[37:44.920 --> 37:53.280]  saying, yes, he's tried to retrain and he couldn't do what they asked him to retrain
[37:53.280 --> 37:58.280]  to do and they made all kinds of excuses why two years down the road he's still hanging
[37:58.280 --> 38:08.600]  out at the railroad station wanting them to pay him and the challenge to that was actually
[38:08.600 --> 38:14.200]  that he intended to get hurt to get money out of them because he's been built on them
[38:14.200 --> 38:18.720]  for two years and he just wants more stuff and he never worked and the reason he was
[38:18.720 --> 38:22.640]  laid off was because he hangs around and doesn't do anything and da, da, da.
[38:22.640 --> 38:31.800]  And so it came down to it was almost like a spitting contest, if you will, to be nice.
[38:31.800 --> 38:41.840]  But when we got into the jury deliberation, that was what astounded me the most.
[38:41.840 --> 38:52.440]  There were, there is a group of people who none of us agreed on what ought to happen
[38:52.440 --> 38:55.920]  and that was astounding to me because to me it was quite clear.
[38:55.920 --> 39:03.120]  The guy is just trying to build his former employer out of money and about half of the
[39:03.120 --> 39:10.360]  jurors, their response was, oh, the railroad's rich, they should just pay him because they
[39:10.360 --> 39:15.960]  have lots of money and even at the time, and it's been 20 or 30, 25 years probably since
[39:15.960 --> 39:19.440]  then, they were going broke even then.
[39:19.440 --> 39:25.480]  Like anybody with a brain, no, the railroad doesn't have any money, what do you mean?
[39:25.480 --> 39:31.560]  And even if they did, why is it okay for a jury to say, oh, because they're a big company,
[39:31.560 --> 39:33.840]  they should pay this guy a lot of money?
[39:33.840 --> 39:44.000]  And so I had a real hard time with that and so the outcome was more because it was civil,
[39:44.000 --> 39:52.600]  the jury was asked first to say who's liable and then to apply a percentage of liability
[39:52.600 --> 39:56.720]  on each party, which I thought was really cool.
[39:56.720 --> 40:04.200]  I didn't know you could do that until then and so what happened in the jury room then
[40:04.200 --> 40:11.920]  was some people could say, oh, the railroad was at fault, other people could say the guy
[40:11.920 --> 40:20.320]  was at fault and we all still could get something, you know, we didn't have to be in total agreement
[40:20.320 --> 40:30.600]  to have a solid outcome and being younger than I am now, the guy who was the jury foreman,
[40:30.600 --> 40:36.560]  I have great admiration for him because he had it together, he knew exactly what was
[40:36.560 --> 40:43.720]  going on and he was business minded and there was one person in particular who kept going
[40:43.720 --> 40:54.960]  on about, no, he needs money, he needs to get paid, and so he very cleverly said, okay,
[40:54.960 --> 40:59.080]  to this one person, how much do you think he ought to get?
[40:59.080 --> 41:05.560]  And she didn't remember, he said, okay, and then he said, okay, we have two things to
[41:05.560 --> 41:12.360]  decide, so what is the percentage of liability on each side?
[41:12.360 --> 41:22.040]  And she agreed with us the other way, that his liability was way, way greater than the
[41:22.040 --> 41:30.720]  railroad company and so it was something like 90% his fault and 10% the company fault and
[41:30.720 --> 41:34.720]  so the foreman said, fine, here's the amount of money you want him to have.
[41:34.720 --> 41:42.480]  He gets 10% of that because he had 90% of the liability and it came down to a number
[41:42.480 --> 41:46.480]  that was just a couple of hundred bucks and it was great and it was like, yeah, cool,
[41:46.480 --> 41:49.040]  I like that, that's nice for me.
[41:49.040 --> 42:00.160]  So in that kind of a situation, the jury is in a little different position so it's kind
[42:00.160 --> 42:06.480]  of like the lawsuits in civil when you write tort letters and stuff that you have a different
[42:06.480 --> 42:08.480]  responsibility there.
[42:08.480 --> 42:15.800]  You actually putting a dollar amount on the guilt for innocence and it's not, it doesn't
[42:15.800 --> 42:22.640]  even come out in my mind to be guilt or innocence, it's amount of liability and taking responsibility
[42:22.640 --> 42:28.360]  for something that happened and so it's more to me like, oh, maybe it was an accident, maybe
[42:28.360 --> 42:36.520]  it wasn't but there's not a real criminal activity going on but there is responsibility
[42:36.520 --> 42:41.320]  and liability and so I found that to be very interesting.
[42:41.320 --> 42:46.480]  The criminal cases that I've been on, it's more, you know, is he guilty, do you have
[42:46.480 --> 42:54.280]  enough evidence, do you feel comfortable that, you know, what was presented is real and you
[42:54.280 --> 42:57.240]  can look him in the eye and say, go to jail.
[42:57.240 --> 43:05.000]  And so in those cases, like I said, where I've set through the whole trial, one was
[43:05.000 --> 43:06.000]  very clear.
[43:06.000 --> 43:10.000]  It's like, okay, yes, it's very clear.
[43:10.000 --> 43:16.640]  It was not an issue and still when you get into the jury room there's one person in
[43:16.640 --> 43:20.680]  there who says, oh, I just couldn't send him to jail, it's like, well, you know, why didn't
[43:20.680 --> 43:21.680]  you say that in Vordar?
[43:21.680 --> 43:24.680]  They asked you that, they asked you that straight on.
[43:24.680 --> 43:30.000]  Could you send this guy to jail, I mean they always do in Vordar, they make you look at
[43:30.000 --> 43:35.960]  the defendant and they point to him and they say, could you send this guy to jail?
[43:35.960 --> 43:42.040]  So for me, it's like, you're going to get them all, it's all going to be different.
[43:42.040 --> 43:49.760]  Okay, if I was on the jury and I didn't want to be picked by the prosecutor, I'd say, guilty,
[43:49.760 --> 43:50.760]  guilty.
[43:50.760 --> 43:57.840]  Okay, ready to kill the devil's thief and say, Greg, we'll go radio, we'll be right
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[46:22.120 --> 46:27.600]  Hey, we are back, Mindy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Andy Craig, ruleoflawradio, and we're talking
[46:27.600 --> 46:28.600]  to Kathy in Austin.
[46:28.600 --> 46:36.920]  And Kathy, I have an interesting Skype that someone sent me.
[46:36.920 --> 46:44.520]  Someone who listens to our shows, I mean, he never calls in.
[46:44.520 --> 46:48.120]  So I sent him an insulting Skype back.
[46:48.120 --> 46:50.160]  You would appreciate it.
[46:50.160 --> 46:55.920]  I have some little Skype symbols, and I have way too much fun with them.
[46:55.920 --> 46:58.840]  This is one of a guy been in overdrawing his drawers.
[46:58.840 --> 47:01.440]  I just love that one.
[47:01.440 --> 47:02.440]  Okay.
[47:02.440 --> 47:04.440]  He made a good point.
[47:04.440 --> 47:05.440]  He made a good point.
[47:05.440 --> 47:09.160]  He said, what you talked about recently is programming.
[47:09.160 --> 47:16.120]  Attorneys know that a lot of what they introduce is irrelevant and will ultimately be tossed.
[47:16.120 --> 47:19.240]  Shock value and timing has a psychological effect.
[47:19.240 --> 47:29.160]  It sticks with some people, even if the judge says disregarded.
[47:29.160 --> 47:37.000]  How did that, in a cross-section of jurors, I'm sure you're going to kind of have a scale
[47:37.000 --> 47:43.920]  of people who respond and they all tend to respond differently, did you find that the
[47:43.920 --> 47:53.360]  prosecutors or the lawyers from both sides have went beyond facts and attempted to use
[47:53.360 --> 48:01.200]  these kinds of shyster shenanigans to elicit emotional response as opposed to well thought
[48:01.200 --> 48:04.480]  out considered responses?
[48:04.480 --> 48:10.720]  I believe that these particular two attorneys did not do very much of that.
[48:10.720 --> 48:15.080]  And that's what I was saying earlier, I think I understand why, because when we were allowed
[48:15.080 --> 48:21.640]  to speak with them afterward, they're both green, totally green.
[48:21.640 --> 48:25.640]  The prosecutor has been out of school for one year.
[48:25.640 --> 48:33.480]  The defender was older and spoke very eloquently and very comfortable speaking, but found out
[48:33.480 --> 48:37.920]  that he was a second career attorney and this was his third trial.
[48:37.920 --> 48:45.400]  And it's like, okay, so they were looking for positive feedback because they're trying
[48:45.400 --> 48:46.800]  to get better at it.
[48:46.800 --> 48:53.920]  I believe that's why they got a really good jury and not...
[48:53.920 --> 48:58.840]  Because they didn't know how to assess a jury and I appreciate that problem.
[48:58.840 --> 49:06.000]  I study psychology and all this stuff and every time I've had to select a jury, I had
[49:06.000 --> 49:11.560]  absolutely no clue as to what parameters I should look for.
[49:11.560 --> 49:21.360]  They selected based on the people who responded the most and followed their argument that
[49:21.360 --> 49:28.080]  it was obvious no one that was sitting in that room had not answered something directly
[49:28.080 --> 49:36.920]  or when asked gave a solid response, two or three things that I was asked in Bordar when
[49:36.920 --> 49:41.920]  I made my flip interruption kind of statement, two or three other people would say, yeah,
[49:41.920 --> 49:44.360]  what she said, yeah, what she said.
[49:44.360 --> 49:49.720]  And it's like, okay, those people were not selected.
[49:49.720 --> 49:55.400]  People who just, oh yeah, yeah, they wouldn't come up with something on their own, but when
[49:55.400 --> 49:59.680]  they heard a good thing, yeah, that's what I think.
[49:59.680 --> 50:07.800]  I would have thought that would be the ones that you would pick and then try to find a
[50:07.800 --> 50:17.080]  strong lead person who would lead to your side and pick all the rest as followers.
[50:17.080 --> 50:22.400]  That doesn't sound like what these guys did and it may be because they were just too inexperienced.
[50:22.400 --> 50:24.280]  I believe that's the case.
[50:24.280 --> 50:34.040]  They got a really good jury and we would not have convicted on what they had when they
[50:34.040 --> 50:36.680]  told us what they had.
[50:36.680 --> 50:44.040]  And so I was sad in one way that the guy had taken the deal and just like you and I have
[50:44.040 --> 50:51.800]  discussed in other venues, it's still the process needs to happen because in violence
[50:51.800 --> 50:59.120]  cases and especially family violence, it isn't always what it seems and the state does need
[50:59.120 --> 51:01.800]  to go ahead and try.
[51:01.800 --> 51:11.160]  So I agree with that, but this guy would, they did not have enough for us to feel comfortable
[51:11.160 --> 51:14.480]  convicting him.
[51:14.480 --> 51:15.480]  But he...
[51:15.480 --> 51:17.640]  At least, yeah, from what they gave you at the beginning.
[51:17.640 --> 51:20.200]  Well, from what they gave back to me.
[51:20.200 --> 51:24.760]  No, from afterwards, when they said, this is what we were going to say, they told us
[51:24.760 --> 51:25.760]  the whole trial.
[51:25.760 --> 51:30.360]  They said, this is what we had because they wanted the feedback.
[51:30.360 --> 51:36.240]  They told us all they had and we said there were five of us who stayed to discuss it with
[51:36.240 --> 51:40.400]  them and we said to ourselves, no, I couldn't convict on that.
[51:40.400 --> 51:42.800]  That's not enough.
[51:42.800 --> 51:45.600]  So they didn't have a witness.
[51:45.600 --> 51:50.320]  They didn't have, they didn't have a accuser.
[51:50.320 --> 51:57.960]  So anyway, there are people who need your help, unless you just, if this is what we
[51:57.960 --> 52:02.560]  need to do tonight, it's good, but I don't want to take up the whole time if you have
[52:02.560 --> 52:03.560]  people waiting.
[52:03.560 --> 52:09.560]  No, I don't, but I thought that was a good, this is a good discussion.
[52:09.560 --> 52:14.720]  We've had people call in the show and said that they were called for jury duty and calls
[52:14.720 --> 52:18.160]  us to find out how to get out of it.
[52:18.160 --> 52:22.600]  And I found the question objectionable.
[52:22.600 --> 52:26.760]  I have never been called for jury duty.
[52:26.760 --> 52:28.400]  Really?
[52:28.400 --> 52:32.720]  My son has the same name as me and he's been called two or three times.
[52:32.720 --> 52:36.920]  Yeah, he must be giving you credit.
[52:36.920 --> 52:40.200]  I don't know how that worked, but they sure wouldn't call me.
[52:40.200 --> 52:42.160]  I would have a great time on the jury.
[52:42.160 --> 52:48.680]  Well, I have never shirked jury duty and I guess that's why they keep calling me back,
[52:48.680 --> 52:58.840]  but it's irritating and it gives me a splitting headache because I look at it like babysitting
[52:58.840 --> 53:00.880]  someone else's children.
[53:00.880 --> 53:09.440]  It's a responsibility that's very heavy and I take it seriously, but having done it
[53:09.440 --> 53:16.480]  and gone through it, I still think that my same response to the guy was, if we don't
[53:16.480 --> 53:20.280]  do this, we are all intercourse.
[53:20.280 --> 53:22.280]  We must.
[53:22.280 --> 53:23.280]  I agree.
[53:23.280 --> 53:27.480]  We must do this and it's no fun.
[53:27.480 --> 53:35.520]  The best thing our founders did was put in the jury process.
[53:35.520 --> 53:45.040]  The jury process is cumbersome and it's costly and it's a real pain in the neck, but we live
[53:45.040 --> 53:51.440]  in a world full of human beings and human beings are flawed.
[53:51.440 --> 53:58.600]  That's also why the Bill of Rights says we have a right to be face to face accuser.
[53:58.600 --> 54:02.000]  We have a right to be judged by our peers.
[54:02.000 --> 54:09.840]  We have a right and therefore every right we know has a responsibility, so if it's my
[54:09.840 --> 54:14.640]  right to have a jury, it's your responsibility to be it.
[54:14.640 --> 54:15.640]  Exactly.
[54:15.640 --> 54:22.360]  I personally think it would be a great honor to be on a jury.
[54:22.360 --> 54:26.240]  We get the opportunity to make the system work.
[54:26.240 --> 54:31.840]  I'm hoping to invoke a few juries.
[54:31.840 --> 54:38.360]  The last one I was in front of found me incredibly guilty and the case was absolutely outrageous
[54:38.360 --> 54:42.800]  and I had no idea how to handle a jury.
[54:42.800 --> 54:51.280]  That was a good point on this, that I defended myself, bad idea.
[54:51.280 --> 54:58.360]  There's stuff about a lawyer who defends himself as a fool for a client to write.
[54:58.360 --> 55:08.000]  The reason the defense attorney told us, the reason that he allowed his client to take
[55:08.000 --> 55:13.960]  the deal was because he had repeatedly told him he needed to shut his mouth and let the
[55:13.960 --> 55:19.480]  attorney speak for him because he had some priors.
[55:19.480 --> 55:23.880]  He said, if you get on the stand, you will open your mouth about some prior and it will
[55:23.880 --> 55:31.680]  open the floodgate and she will come and wipe you out and the defendant insisted.
[55:31.680 --> 55:33.760]  He insisted right up to the last minute.
[55:33.760 --> 55:36.040]  He said, I want to get on the stand.
[55:36.040 --> 55:37.040]  I want to clear my name.
[55:37.040 --> 55:43.400]  I want to talk because I didn't do it and yes, he probably didn't do it.
[55:43.400 --> 55:48.720]  He was innocent this time, but because he had the priors, because the system is the
[55:48.720 --> 55:54.960]  other way it is because if he brings something in that you've talked about this many times,
[55:54.960 --> 56:00.120]  if the defense opens up a subject, everybody can talk about it.
[56:00.120 --> 56:01.960]  Okay, we're going there.
[56:01.960 --> 56:12.120]  If it's not already introduced and if he shuts his mouth, then nobody needs to know anything
[56:12.120 --> 56:16.480]  except this day, this time, this particular thing.
[56:16.480 --> 56:23.480]  Anything else is wiped and like you said, anything that's said and you can tell everybody
[56:23.480 --> 56:27.360]  everything you want to forget this and forget that, but it isn't forgotten.
[56:27.360 --> 56:29.360]  It's never forgotten.
[56:29.360 --> 56:32.280]  You know, a retractable or doesn't undo anything.
[56:32.280 --> 56:33.280]  I'm sorry.
[56:33.280 --> 56:34.280]  It's done.
[56:34.280 --> 56:38.960]  And the prosecutors are experienced.
[56:38.960 --> 56:45.960]  They know how to do that and the prosecutor is not inhibited by the judge.
[56:45.960 --> 56:49.760]  The defense counsel is.
[56:49.760 --> 56:55.560]  So you go in with a terrible disadvantage, but what I was saying about representing yourself
[56:55.560 --> 56:59.880]  when I represented myself, I was woefully inadequate.
[56:59.880 --> 57:03.200]  I had way too much at stake.
[57:03.200 --> 57:12.600]  So I was unable to act with the cool, deliberate reasoning that I should have had.
[57:12.600 --> 57:17.880]  You need to go back and not, not be attached to it.
[57:17.880 --> 57:18.880]  Exactly.
[57:18.880 --> 57:19.880]  Yeah.
[57:19.880 --> 57:28.120]  So I am suggesting people get counsel and I understand the weakness of counsel.
[57:28.120 --> 57:34.640]  However, there are tools we can use to improve our chances.
[57:34.640 --> 57:41.840]  The one at the one in Austin, they dismissed the case to keep me from ruining my attorney's
[57:41.840 --> 57:42.840]  career.
[57:42.840 --> 57:48.200]  The judge literally dismissed the case to protect my attorney from me.
[57:48.200 --> 57:55.480]  He had mercy on your attorney.
[57:55.480 --> 58:00.520]  And when we come back on the other side, I would like to, if you'd like to hang on, Kathy,
[58:00.520 --> 58:09.520]  I would like to, to keep you, uh, the issue on the head.
[58:09.520 --> 58:14.040]  I don't mind staying on if you don't have something else you need to go do.
[58:14.040 --> 58:15.120]  I don't at the moment.
[58:15.120 --> 58:22.240]  I do want to talk about this issue of the juries and how they're influenced and, uh,
[58:22.240 --> 58:29.480]  really, I want to convince people to want to be on juries because those of us who understand
[58:29.480 --> 58:32.480]  what is actually going on, we can make a difference.
[58:32.480 --> 58:37.760]  We should be the ones getting on juries, those who, who are awake know what's actually going
[58:37.760 --> 58:38.760]  on.
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[59:56.560 --> 01:00:05.560]  Ouch, that's how consumers are reacting after being victimized by pins.
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[01:04:16.600 --> 01:04:31.080]  Okay, Kathy, juries are one of my favorite subjects because it is the juries that has
[01:04:31.080 --> 01:04:33.200]  protected us as much as we can so far.
[01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:39.560]  I mean, I'm really partial to grand juries and I would really like to get someone on
[01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:42.560]  who has actually been on a grand jury.
[01:04:42.560 --> 01:04:50.480]  Well, I know two people who have, I can see if they'll call in, but my mother served on
[01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.720]  a grand jury in Galveston County, but it's been a number of years.
[01:04:54.720 --> 01:04:59.240]  Yeah, I would like to get her impression.
[01:04:59.240 --> 01:05:05.320]  What I don't have a feel for is the mindset of the grand jury.
[01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:12.280]  Now, I went down to the district attorney's office here in Austin, I'm sorry, to the district
[01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:19.560]  clerk and requested the minutes of the grand jury.
[01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:25.720]  And when I got them, I was absolutely astounded at what I found.
[01:05:25.720 --> 01:05:32.320]  You know, you hear all this stuff about how the prosecutor controls the grand jury and
[01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:38.240]  it was Scalia who said that any prosecutor worth his salt could get a ham sandwich and
[01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:39.240]  dine in.
[01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:40.240]  Yeah.
[01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:45.520]  And it's always been my position that when I'm going after public officials, the trick
[01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:51.000]  is not getting the ham sandwich and dieting, the trick is keeping the ham sandwich from
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.520]  getting and dieting.
[01:05:54.520 --> 01:06:01.000]  But in looking at the minutes of the grand jury, you know, they come in and they hear
[01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:06.360]  a number of cases and they come before the court and then they deliberate and they vote
[01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.240]  on rather to, to the bill or no bill, then they come, then they come before the court
[01:06:11.240 --> 01:06:17.440]  and they present their results, right?
[01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:24.440]  Every single one had no bills in it.
[01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:35.920]  Every single one in every case, every grand jury, every day refused to indict somebody.
[01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.920]  I would think there's a lot more refusals than there are indictments.
[01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:40.920]  Yeah.
[01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:49.920]  Well, probably most of the people they bring to the grand jury for a felony indictment
[01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:50.920]  probably are guilty.
[01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:52.920]  Well, felonies maybe.
[01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:53.920]  Yeah.
[01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:54.920]  Probably 80%.
[01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:02.560]  You know, that's kind of been a national expected average and I'm not terribly concerned
[01:07:02.560 --> 01:07:06.000]  about that 80%.
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.920]  It's the other 20% that I am really concerned about.
[01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:17.040]  Did it give you on that minutes, did it tell you what the offense was, whether it was a
[01:07:17.040 --> 01:07:19.240]  felony or whether it was something?
[01:07:19.240 --> 01:07:24.200]  No, these were indictments, these were all felonies.
[01:07:24.200 --> 01:07:25.200]  All felonies.
[01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:26.200]  Oh, okay.
[01:07:26.200 --> 01:07:27.200]  Yeah.
[01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:32.520]  So, you know, there's some more serious issues and they still refuse to indict.
[01:07:32.520 --> 01:07:37.680]  At least one person every day.
[01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:44.760]  So that tells me that the prosecuting attorney did not have control of this grand jury that
[01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:49.040]  if they were a ham sandwich, they were a pretty tough ham sandwich.
[01:07:49.040 --> 01:07:56.320]  Well, the prosecuting attorney is simply not prepared and did not give enough information.
[01:07:56.320 --> 01:08:04.280]  If the prosecuting attorney just walks in and says, you know, we suggest that you indict
[01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:10.440]  these people, then maybe we have a grand jury sitting there who's actually reading the information
[01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:19.480]  and deciding if there is a reasonable doubt if there is enough information for them to
[01:08:19.480 --> 01:08:26.040]  make a selection because it would seem to me that the grand jury's job is exactly the
[01:08:26.040 --> 01:08:28.280]  same as any other jury.
[01:08:28.280 --> 01:08:30.120]  Here's the case right before you.
[01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:33.600]  It's as if you had a trial presented on paper.
[01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:41.760]  If there's not enough evidence for you to sit there and say, I think this guy is guilty,
[01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:50.280]  then you have an obligation to say no, Bill, because the prosecutor still has the burden
[01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:51.280]  of proof.
[01:08:51.280 --> 01:08:55.040]  Is it not just the same as any other?
[01:08:55.040 --> 01:08:58.560]  That is exactly what I expected.
[01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:08.600]  You know, we get a lot of discontent here of people who already feel defeated and maintain
[01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:15.360]  that the grand jury doesn't make any difference because the prosecutor controls the grand jury.
[01:09:15.360 --> 01:09:21.280]  My question has always been, how do you control 12 strangers?
[01:09:21.280 --> 01:09:24.920]  Well, you know, I'll tell you how, maybe I'll tell you how.
[01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.000]  It's the same thing that we've been up against.
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:34.000]  When I met you, it was because we were trying to get to a grand jury.
[01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:37.360]  We still to this day have not done so.
[01:09:37.360 --> 01:09:41.840]  The prosecutor controls the grand jury by not letting things through.
[01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:43.640]  That's the case.
[01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.240]  I am working on that.
[01:09:46.240 --> 01:09:52.200]  I got agreement from the Tarrant County District Attorney that they would not interfere with
[01:09:52.200 --> 01:09:55.480]  me going to the grand jury.
[01:09:55.480 --> 01:10:03.280]  I'm about to, as soon as our new prosecutor takes office, I'm going to welcome him to
[01:10:03.280 --> 01:10:08.840]  the deep end of the pool because I'm going to present criminal complaints against the
[01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:16.640]  outgoing district attorney and ask him to present her for indictment for not presenting
[01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:22.760]  my complaints against the Chief Justice of the Supreme to the grand jury.
[01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.560]  We see how this works out for him.
[01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:30.320]  Well, if you can, it'll start my thing anyway.
[01:10:30.320 --> 01:10:31.320]  Yeah.
[01:10:31.320 --> 01:10:38.240]  Well, what I tell the prosecutor is, you know, you have no option.
[01:10:38.240 --> 01:10:42.960]  If you do what that one did, then I'll charge you with conspiring with her.
[01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:50.640]  And then we'll go to the Attorney General, who's next, and under 39.015, he has concurrent
[01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.280]  prosecutorial jurisdiction.
[01:10:53.280 --> 01:11:01.720]  And if both you and the ex-prosecutor are named, then the only option would be to appoint
[01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:09.560]  an attorney pro temp, but that would be unnecessary as we already have a prosecutor in line with
[01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.320]  the jurisdiction, which is the Attorney General.
[01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:19.000]  And guess what I'm going to do when he refuses to prosecute?
[01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:26.200]  Then we get them all in the mix, then we go to the feds and file against all of them.
[01:11:26.200 --> 01:11:31.560]  We create ourselves enough politics and they're going to stand aside.
[01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:37.440]  And what I tell the prosecutor, I said, look, you don't have any option.
[01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:43.600]  Under 2.03 code of criminal procedure, you must give my complaint to the grand jury.
[01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.040]  And they all asked, but they don't.
[01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:48.040]  They don't.
[01:11:48.040 --> 01:11:53.320]  So that's why I'm going after them criminally.
[01:11:53.320 --> 01:11:59.560]  And I tell the prosecutor, give it to the grand jury, since you have no option.
[01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:03.520]  You have no duty to argue for prosecution.
[01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:09.720]  2.01 makes it your duty to ensure that justice is served.
[01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:17.560]  So if you believe that justice would be served by not prosecuting this case, go in on an argument.
[01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:18.560]  We file.
[01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:19.560]  That was me.
[01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:23.400]  And if the jury agrees with you, wonderful.
[01:12:23.400 --> 01:12:25.400]  My purpose is well served.
[01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:28.920]  That's right, but the jury needs to hear it.
[01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.560]  The jury needs to hear it.
[01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:36.880]  And the one thing that every lawyer who's been a prosecutor and dealt with the grand
[01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:43.760]  jury knows is exactly what my prosecutor here in Wise County told me several years ago in
[01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.760]  a a fit of abject frustration.
[01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:58.440]  He said, those damn grand jurors, you never know what they're going to do.
[01:12:58.440 --> 01:12:59.440]  Thank you, Lord.
[01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:01.880]  That's exactly what I thought.
[01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:04.560]  I could not have heard anything better.
[01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:08.480]  Yeah, that's what we would hope it to be.
[01:13:08.480 --> 01:13:12.640]  This was the prosecutor himself forcing that frustration.
[01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.280]  And he, I told him, you forgot.
[01:13:16.280 --> 01:13:19.040]  You forgotten what the grand jury's there for.
[01:13:19.040 --> 01:13:21.120]  He said, no, I haven't.
[01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:23.720]  They're there to determine whether to indict or not.
[01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:24.720]  No, no, no.
[01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.920]  That is not why they're there.
[01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.320]  They're there to protect us against you.
[01:13:30.320 --> 01:13:31.320]  That's right.
[01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:34.360]  They're there to keep you on it.
[01:13:34.360 --> 01:13:39.360]  It stood there a minute and he said, well, you got a good point there.
[01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:41.600]  And that's exactly why they're there.
[01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.080]  So we don't need the indictment.
[01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:51.880]  If I give criminal complaints against the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to the grand
[01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:56.160]  jury, he's got to wonder if they're going to end his career.
[01:13:56.160 --> 01:13:58.400]  This is what happened with the Court of Criminal Appeals.
[01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:02.680]  Because it is a coin toss from his perspective.
[01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:03.680]  It could go.
[01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:04.680]  Those damn grand jurors.
[01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:05.680]  It's a coin toss, yes.
[01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:11.720]  So, you know, they're looking, they're getting an indictment.
[01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:13.800]  Their career is over.
[01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:15.120]  That's right.
[01:14:15.120 --> 01:14:19.760]  Just the fact that the presentment is really bad news because the next opponent's going
[01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:25.400]  to pull out that complaint and wave it in front of the public and say, this guy's so
[01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:28.240]  bad that this is what the public has to do.
[01:14:28.240 --> 01:14:32.760]  They have to go to the grand jury with criminal charges against him.
[01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:36.520]  He's going to say, oh, well, those charges were frivolous.
[01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:42.600]  Well, maybe so, but the problem is perception is everything.
[01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.200]  You can't unknow it.
[01:14:45.200 --> 01:14:50.680]  And he's like, don't look at that, never mind that.
[01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:51.680]  Yeah.
[01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.680]  Don't look at that guy behind the curtain.
[01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:56.240]  That's right, but they won't have seen it.
[01:14:56.240 --> 01:14:57.720]  And it's on the record.
[01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:58.720]  Okay.
[01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:00.760]  Thank you very much, Kathy.
[01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:08.800]  That was a great couple of segments, some issues I've very much enjoyed going over.
[01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:13.920]  And thank you for having me as your guest.
[01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:14.920]  And don't be a stranger.
[01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:15.920]  Okay.
[01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:18.120]  And I do have one item really quick.
[01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:19.120]  All righty.
[01:15:19.120 --> 01:15:20.120]  Be sure.
[01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:22.400]  Just throw it out there.
[01:15:22.400 --> 01:15:26.280]  I wanted to tell Dr. Wallach when he was on last night.
[01:15:26.280 --> 01:15:32.840]  He was talking about all of the, you know, the damage that doctors do in hospitals, and
[01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:33.840]  it was very interesting.
[01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:40.320]  I got an ad in my credit union statement for term life insurance.
[01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:44.280]  And we all get them our bank send us this cheap term life insurance.
[01:15:44.280 --> 01:15:47.240]  Oh, look how cheap and you don't have to have a medical and we'll give you all this
[01:15:47.240 --> 01:15:48.240]  good life insurance.
[01:15:48.240 --> 01:15:53.520]  Well, I bothered to turn it over and read the back, and do you know what this insurance
[01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.440]  will not pay on?
[01:15:56.440 --> 01:16:07.240]  If you die of sickness, if you die of sickness, either diagnosis or infection, except an infection
[01:16:07.240 --> 01:16:10.600]  that was a direct result of an accident.
[01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:15.000]  If you die of any infection in the hospital, if you die of any illness in the hospital,
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  they won't pay.
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.480]  It's one of these accident insurance policies, yes, I've seen one of those.
[01:16:20.480 --> 01:16:23.840]  No, it's just this term life insurance.
[01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:28.760]  Plain old term life insurance and it will not pay for you to die in the hospital of sickness.
[01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.760]  Be sure and read the back anyway.
[01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:32.760]  This is just a warning.
[01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:35.760]  You know, I'll fire you whenever you want.
[01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:36.760]  Okay.
[01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:39.040]  Okay, thank you for that.
[01:16:39.040 --> 01:16:43.200]  Thank you for calling in Ms. Kelly and we'll look forward to you coming back.
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[01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:57.920]  We are back, Randy Kelton Derby, Stephen Dickray, and we are going to just in Texas
[01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:59.440]  to talk about this.
[01:19:59.440 --> 01:20:03.500]  Jesus, I understand that you're sending in some judicial conduct complaints.
[01:20:03.500 --> 01:20:04.500]  Yeah.
[01:20:04.500 --> 01:20:05.500]  Hello.
[01:20:05.500 --> 01:20:06.500]  There you go.
[01:20:06.500 --> 01:20:07.800]  Did I put you to sleep?
[01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:08.800]  No.
[01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:10.300]  I was just getting my headset off.
[01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:11.300]  That's good.
[01:20:11.300 --> 01:20:12.300]  Yes.
[01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:13.300]  I got a response back from the Judicial Commission.
[01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:27.160]  But before I go into that one thing, I wanted to make a contribution tonight.
[01:20:27.160 --> 01:20:30.160]  Can I do that through PayPal?
[01:20:30.160 --> 01:20:31.160]  Absolutely.
[01:20:31.160 --> 01:20:32.160]  Okay.
[01:20:32.160 --> 01:20:35.160]  So, we can do that.
[01:20:35.160 --> 01:20:36.160]  Okay.
[01:20:36.160 --> 01:20:39.160]  Yeah, just look for Randy's Beer Fund.
[01:20:39.160 --> 01:20:41.160]  That's what I figured.
[01:20:41.160 --> 01:20:46.160]  I'll go directly to that and Debbie was going to whack me for that.
[01:20:46.160 --> 01:20:53.160]  Actually, it all goes to the network anyway.
[01:20:53.160 --> 01:20:54.160]  Okay.
[01:20:54.160 --> 01:20:59.160]  Oh, well, I was thinking of throwing a few extra bucks in there, but there you go.
[01:20:59.160 --> 01:21:04.160]  Okay, so can I go to ruleoflawradio.com and do that?
[01:21:04.160 --> 01:21:06.160]  Yes, I think so.
[01:21:06.160 --> 01:21:08.160]  She administers the site.
[01:21:08.160 --> 01:21:10.160]  Yeah, it's on Rule of Law.
[01:21:10.160 --> 01:21:12.160]  You'll find the donation button.
[01:21:12.160 --> 01:21:13.160]  Okay, good.
[01:21:13.160 --> 01:21:17.160]  Now, I heard about your excellent soap since I'm a grease monkey.
[01:21:17.160 --> 01:21:24.160]  Can you wash your hands or something, get the grease off without it?
[01:21:24.160 --> 01:21:28.160]  You know, your hands sometimes they crack in the wintertime?
[01:21:28.160 --> 01:21:30.160]  Okay, it won't crack with this stuff.
[01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:32.160]  Let me tell a story about that.
[01:21:32.160 --> 01:21:36.160]  And I haven't sent it out yet because the batch I have, I'm not happy with it.
[01:21:36.160 --> 01:21:40.160]  I was doing some experiments with it and it's kind of lumpy, crunchy.
[01:21:40.160 --> 01:21:45.160]  I'm going to go Wednesday and pick up some powder.
[01:21:45.160 --> 01:21:52.160]  I've been using caustic soda bead and that's made it kind of crusty and grainy.
[01:21:52.160 --> 01:21:59.160]  It's great for liquid soap, but it's not as effective for a solid bar.
[01:21:59.160 --> 01:22:03.160]  So I'm going to pick up the powder and by Friday I'll have them all out.
[01:22:03.160 --> 01:22:05.160]  It'll be much nicer consistency.
[01:22:05.160 --> 01:22:07.160]  Let me tell you what I did.
[01:22:07.160 --> 01:22:09.160]  I came up across the soap.
[01:22:09.160 --> 01:22:13.160]  I used your standard degreases for years.
[01:22:13.160 --> 01:22:15.160]  And my hands used to crack all over.
[01:22:15.160 --> 01:22:20.160]  They look like dried mud, just little cracks everywhere.
[01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:23.160]  You know, get grease down in them and always couldn't get it out.
[01:22:23.160 --> 01:22:27.160]  When I started using this soap, all that went away.
[01:22:27.160 --> 01:22:39.160]  All the cracks went away and one of the ways I demonstrated my soap is I would be talking to a client and I washed the truck foods.
[01:22:39.160 --> 01:22:43.160]  They'd ask me about my soap and I'd say, well, it's pretty good.
[01:22:43.160 --> 01:22:49.160]  I'd reach over and I'd want it to be by a tractor and would put my hand right on the fifth wheel of the tractor.
[01:22:49.160 --> 01:22:56.160]  The fifth wheel is always totally black, nasty black grease.
[01:22:56.160 --> 01:22:59.160]  I put my hand on it and I'd say, oh, look at that.
[01:22:59.160 --> 01:23:06.160]  I'd step up in my truck and dip my hand in the drum, slosh it on my hand and rub it together a couple of times.
[01:23:06.160 --> 01:23:11.160]  It's a little watery. All of it got completely gone.
[01:23:11.160 --> 01:23:15.160]  That always worked.
[01:23:15.160 --> 01:23:16.160]  Absolutely.
[01:23:16.160 --> 01:23:19.160]  This is just pure soap.
[01:23:19.160 --> 01:23:30.160]  There's nothing in there to give it consistency, color, texture, shelf life, odor, perfume.
[01:23:30.160 --> 01:23:32.160]  None of that garbage.
[01:23:32.160 --> 01:23:34.160]  Excellent.
[01:23:34.160 --> 01:23:43.160]  Since there's only two products in there, the best builder money can buy and the Sudsy Bubbly.
[01:23:43.160 --> 01:23:48.160]  The builder cuts the dirt loose, the Sudsy Bubbly suspends it and rinses it off.
[01:23:48.160 --> 01:23:51.160]  I don't need anything else in it.
[01:23:51.160 --> 01:23:55.160]  With this, with the bars I'm making, you just get it a little moist.
[01:23:55.160 --> 01:23:57.160]  Like if you get in the shower or something, just get it moist.
[01:23:57.160 --> 01:23:58.160]  Do not put it in the tub.
[01:23:58.160 --> 01:24:01.160]  It'll turn into liquid soap.
[01:24:01.160 --> 01:24:09.160]  Take your hand and put it on it wet and it will literally turn to soap under your hand.
[01:24:09.160 --> 01:24:21.160]  The way I mix it, I don't mix enough water in it to give it enough liquid to cause a chemical reaction between these two products.
[01:24:21.160 --> 01:24:24.160]  They react with one another.
[01:24:24.160 --> 01:24:32.160]  I mix them together and there's not enough water to get the reaction and then it hardens into a bar when you put your hand on it.
[01:24:32.160 --> 01:24:41.160]  The water on your hand will give a thin layer of soap enough liquid so that the two can react with each other.
[01:24:41.160 --> 01:24:43.160]  It'll literally turn to soap right under your hand.
[01:24:43.160 --> 01:24:46.160]  Put your hand on there, you can actually feel it.
[01:24:46.160 --> 01:24:50.160]  You can feel it kind of foam up under your fingers.
[01:24:50.160 --> 01:24:53.160]  But all you have to do is touch it.
[01:24:53.160 --> 01:24:57.160]  Pick this up and you'll know how you pick up a bar soap and roll it between your hands.
[01:24:57.160 --> 01:25:01.160]  You do not want to do that with this soap.
[01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:04.160]  You will give way, way too much soap.
[01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:07.160]  Just rub your hand across it will be plenty.
[01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:09.160]  Excellent.
[01:25:09.160 --> 01:25:11.160]  Yes, I will get that to you.
[01:25:11.160 --> 01:25:14.160]  I've worked out a better way to form it.
[01:25:14.160 --> 01:25:20.160]  It'll look like a cone and that's perfect for just rubbing your hand across it.
[01:25:20.160 --> 01:25:29.160]  It's kind of, it'll look like these chalk, the LCC and pool partners where you put your hand on it to take the chalk off.
[01:25:29.160 --> 01:25:30.160]  Okay.
[01:25:30.160 --> 01:25:31.160]  Perfect.
[01:25:31.160 --> 01:25:35.160]  You filed some judicial conduct complaints.
[01:25:35.160 --> 01:25:41.160]  Yes, I did and I got a letter back from the State Commission on Judicial Conduct and I want to read this.
[01:25:41.160 --> 01:25:43.160]  It's a riot.
[01:25:43.160 --> 01:25:49.160]  Dear Mr. Mano, we appreciate the concerns raised in your letter.
[01:25:49.160 --> 01:26:01.160]  The Commission determined that the matter raised in your complaint pertain to decisions or rulings made by the judge while exercising his or her discretion.
[01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:13.160]  As a general rule, a judge's discretionary decision, even if they are wrong, are not examples of judicial misconduct.
[01:26:13.160 --> 01:26:24.160]  The Commission has no authority to intervene in a court case, ask a judge to step down from a case, or change a judge's rulings.
[01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:28.160]  The Commission cannot act as an appellate court.
[01:26:28.160 --> 01:26:42.160]  Therefore, based on laws that govern the Commission's authority and define what actions can be considered judicial misconduct, this case has been dismissed.
[01:26:42.160 --> 01:26:52.160]  This decision is not intended to prevent you from pursuing other legal remedies that may be available to you.
[01:26:52.160 --> 01:27:02.160]  In fact, we encourage you to consult with an attorney to determine what steps you could take to address your concerns.
[01:27:02.160 --> 01:27:16.160]  While we were not able to assist you with your concerns, we appreciate your interest in assisting us in maintaining the high ethical standards of the Texas judiciary.
[01:27:16.160 --> 01:27:20.160]  Thank you for bringing these issues to our attention.
[01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:26.160]  State Commission on Judicial Conduct and the letter is unsigned.
[01:27:26.160 --> 01:27:29.160]  It's not signed by anyone.
[01:27:29.160 --> 01:27:33.160]  What was that, the high level of what?
[01:27:33.160 --> 01:27:34.160]  Yeah.
[01:27:34.160 --> 01:27:35.160]  Okay.
[01:27:35.160 --> 01:27:37.160]  All right.
[01:27:37.160 --> 01:27:55.160]  While we were not able to assist you with your concerns, we appreciate your interest in assisting us in maintaining the high ethical standards of the Texas judiciary.
[01:27:55.160 --> 01:28:00.160]  Do they know a different Texas judiciary than we do?
[01:28:00.160 --> 01:28:04.160]  It's amazingly comical, this letter.
[01:28:04.160 --> 01:28:13.160]  I mean, what was the nature of your complaint?
[01:28:13.160 --> 01:28:32.160]  First of all, I had a first case number, it was 7698999, was the first case number with a criminal complaint addressing a person named Julius Mando, M-A-N-B-O.
[01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:46.160]  Well, my last name is M-A-N-O, M-A-N-O, so they got the name wrong, but they prosecuted me under this complaint, Mando, for X amount of time.
[01:28:46.160 --> 01:28:50.160]  I had a pretrial under this complaint.
[01:28:50.160 --> 01:28:59.160]  Now, came on July 11th, it was the day, I'm just throwing dates out there this way in my mind, I can put it in numerical order.
[01:28:59.160 --> 01:29:10.160]  On July 11th, 2012, and the judge presiding was Sherri M. Statham, and the prosecutor was this guy, Matt McKay.
[01:29:10.160 --> 01:29:14.160]  He goes to the judge and says under his breath,
[01:29:14.160 --> 01:29:29.160]  Your Honor, we see that there is a mistake in the complaint of Mr. Mando's name, the complaint there is the name Mando, and prosecution at this time would like to dismiss him.
[01:29:29.160 --> 01:29:38.160]  Now, you didn't hear what I just said, but he said we would like to dismiss and refile.
[01:29:38.160 --> 01:29:45.160]  You see, but he did it sneaky, so as for I wouldn't hear him.
[01:29:45.160 --> 01:29:51.160]  Okay, hang on, we'll be right back on the other side, this is rare thing to tell Mr. Stevenson.
[01:29:51.160 --> 01:29:59.160]  Greg, we've already filled a calling number, 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
[01:29:59.160 --> 01:30:06.160]  A noble lie, Oklahoma City, 1995 will change forever the way you look at the true nature of terrorism.
[01:30:06.160 --> 01:30:10.160]  Based on the damage patting to the building, but the government sends impossible.
[01:30:10.160 --> 01:30:14.160]  The grand jury did not want to hear anything I had to say.
[01:30:14.160 --> 01:30:17.160]  The decision was made not to pursue any more of those individuals.
[01:30:17.160 --> 01:30:22.160]  Some of these columns were ripped up, shredded, tossed around.
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[01:32:25.160 --> 01:32:36.160]  Okay, this is Randy Caldwell and David Heaton, Daddy Craig from Blue Radium.
[01:32:36.160 --> 01:32:41.160]  And we're talking to Julius in Texas.
[01:32:41.160 --> 01:32:50.160]  Okay, Julius, we were going through what the judge did.
[01:32:50.160 --> 01:32:55.160]  Let me see if I can get this thing to, there we go.
[01:32:55.160 --> 01:32:58.160]  What was the nature of your complaint?
[01:32:58.160 --> 01:33:09.160]  Did you look in the State Commission on the Standards of Ethics and write your complaint in the verbiage of one of the standards?
[01:33:09.160 --> 01:33:12.160]  I don't know if I wrote it in one of the standards.
[01:33:12.160 --> 01:33:17.160]  I just displayed the facts that happened throughout these proceedings.
[01:33:17.160 --> 01:33:25.160]  And I think I grabbed either one of your complaints or Eddie's or something that you used it as a form, you know, that I could follow.
[01:33:25.160 --> 01:33:29.160]  And, you know, this is the first time I was writing complaints, you know.
[01:33:29.160 --> 01:33:30.160]  Good, good.
[01:33:30.160 --> 01:33:42.160]  But that's one of the things I'm working on is restructuring the Cannons of Judicial Ethics into a set of questions
[01:33:42.160 --> 01:33:48.160]  followed by a set of proactive statements that state the canon.
[01:33:48.160 --> 01:33:57.160]  Say the judge did this as follows and this is a proactive statement of the canon itself.
[01:33:57.160 --> 01:34:03.160]  This makes it a whole lot harder for them to pull that nonsense.
[01:34:03.160 --> 01:34:14.160]  There's a canon 3B subsection 8 which does not allow for ex parte communication in any manner.
[01:34:14.160 --> 01:34:19.160]  You know, the judge should not engage in ex parte communication.
[01:34:19.160 --> 01:34:29.160]  And what we had there on July 11th was that I was told by the judge in court that she would allow the prosecutor to fix the complaint
[01:34:29.160 --> 01:34:33.160]  and then reset the case for another day.
[01:34:33.160 --> 01:34:34.160]  She didn't do that.
[01:34:34.160 --> 01:34:43.160]  What she did was she dismissed the case outright and refiled the case under a new case number.
[01:34:43.160 --> 01:34:52.160]  And they made a new complaint stricting my name and then putting the new case number on it.
[01:34:52.160 --> 01:34:56.160]  So when they did all this, without telling me they were going to do it.
[01:34:56.160 --> 01:35:00.160]  So I felt that they were under the same case number doing this.
[01:35:00.160 --> 01:35:02.160]  But they didn't do that.
[01:35:02.160 --> 01:35:08.160]  Now as Eddie explained to me, what they did was they wiped out all your paperwork.
[01:35:08.160 --> 01:35:10.160]  He said, Julius.
[01:35:10.160 --> 01:35:13.160]  I said, okay, that's what I was thinking.
[01:35:13.160 --> 01:35:18.160]  You know, something along those lines that just looked like some shenanigans or funny business.
[01:35:18.160 --> 01:35:26.160]  And anyway, this dismissing refile, then they created the new case number.
[01:35:26.160 --> 01:35:29.160]  I said, okay, now what we're going to do is go ahead.
[01:35:29.160 --> 01:35:38.160]  Did the judges notify you of your, I think we have a right to appeal their decision?
[01:35:38.160 --> 01:35:39.160]  Okay.
[01:35:39.160 --> 01:35:42.160]  Yeah, I think you appeal it with them.
[01:35:42.160 --> 01:35:43.160]  Okay.
[01:35:43.160 --> 01:35:49.160]  But you look at that, it's been a while since I read it.
[01:35:49.160 --> 01:35:55.160]  I'm relatively certain you have a right to appeal their decision to the board and show causes to why they should.
[01:35:55.160 --> 01:35:59.160]  It's kind of like a reconsideration.
[01:35:59.160 --> 01:36:00.160]  Good.
[01:36:00.160 --> 01:36:01.160]  You know, and I think I would do that.
[01:36:01.160 --> 01:36:09.160]  And maybe I would just shorten all of all of, you know, into, you know, just a, you know, a basic thing to show like that cannon, for instance.
[01:36:09.160 --> 01:36:18.160]  That cannon 3b a show the ex parte communication show where I have the right to be heard because that's not only there.
[01:36:18.160 --> 01:36:20.160]  You know, it's in the code of criminal procedure.
[01:36:20.160 --> 01:36:21.160]  Yeah.
[01:36:21.160 --> 01:36:31.160]  And show show a conspiracy on the part of the prosecutor and the judge to deny your right to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[01:36:31.160 --> 01:36:38.160]  By changing the cause number and their fine nullifying all your emotions without giving you adequate notice.
[01:36:38.160 --> 01:36:39.160]  Exactly.
[01:36:39.160 --> 01:36:41.160]  And they didn't notice me of the case.
[01:36:41.160 --> 01:36:43.160]  They didn't notice me of the new complaint.
[01:36:43.160 --> 01:36:49.160]  Now, here's where it gets tricky for them because they didn't notice me of anything.
[01:36:49.160 --> 01:37:01.160]  They went ahead with the trial on the merits, but I filed 17 days before that new motion under the new case number that should have been heard for a pretrial.
[01:37:01.160 --> 01:37:06.160]  And the judge, same judge, Statman, denied me a pretrial.
[01:37:06.160 --> 01:37:12.160]  This is where I think it really catches them where there's no argument about it.
[01:37:12.160 --> 01:37:29.160]  According to the municipal court rules, if you file 14 days prior to a trial, you have every right to have a pretrial in which case you can raise issues about the criminal complaint and the law from which it is drawn,
[01:37:29.160 --> 01:37:39.160]  which means that according to the rules of the court, municipal court rules, they opened the door for me to raise issues about the criminal complaint,
[01:37:39.160 --> 01:37:46.160]  not only the criminal complaint, the new complaint made, but the law from which it is drawn, the whole code of criminal procedure.
[01:37:46.160 --> 01:37:50.160]  And of course, I'm going to raise every issue I can get my hands on.
[01:37:50.160 --> 01:37:51.160]  I did so.
[01:37:51.160 --> 01:37:53.160]  I filed them timely.
[01:37:53.160 --> 01:37:57.160]  And I should have had a pretrial under the new case number.
[01:37:57.160 --> 01:38:15.160]  Well, the judge didn't like that because I threw a monkey wrench in their works, decide, step me and do this on the sneak and get me to a new trial or a new case number where I would be fooled into thinking I had paperwork when I had none.
[01:38:15.160 --> 01:38:21.160]  Did you have you prepared criminal charges against the judge yet?
[01:38:21.160 --> 01:38:28.160]  I have not done that yet in the in the manner of a formal criminal complaint.
[01:38:28.160 --> 01:38:37.160]  But what I did was I used your two sections to put those complaints inside the judicial conduct complaint.
[01:38:37.160 --> 01:38:42.160]  So I, okay, were they were they verified by a notary?
[01:38:42.160 --> 01:38:44.160]  Absolutely.
[01:38:44.160 --> 01:38:53.160]  You need them or two judges on the panel, you need to go to the district attorney and file criminal charges against them.
[01:38:53.160 --> 01:38:55.160]  Okay, against those two judges.
[01:38:55.160 --> 01:39:02.160]  And now, so what I was trying to figure out, Randy, was how would I have proof that they actually read it?
[01:39:02.160 --> 01:39:06.160]  In other words, you don't care if they read it or not.
[01:39:06.160 --> 01:39:08.160]  Oh, I see.
[01:39:08.160 --> 01:39:14.160]  Let them say, oh, we didn't look at the complaint, we just dismissed it out of hand.
[01:39:14.160 --> 01:39:16.160]  That'll work.
[01:39:16.160 --> 01:39:22.160]  That'll work because the idea that's what I figured is that I have them on something because they wrote in there dismissed.
[01:39:22.160 --> 01:39:28.160]  Now, if they're not a judge, could they dismiss my judicial conduct complaint or no?
[01:39:28.160 --> 01:39:30.160]  Yeah, yeah, they that's the commission.
[01:39:30.160 --> 01:39:32.160]  That's what they can do.
[01:39:32.160 --> 01:39:40.160]  But the two judges on the commission, in order to dismiss it, they would have had to have looked at the complaint.
[01:39:40.160 --> 01:39:41.160]  Right.
[01:39:41.160 --> 01:39:50.160]  And the presumption is if the verified criminal complaints were included that they saw them.
[01:39:50.160 --> 01:40:02.160]  And now we go in and file judicial conduct complaints against them for misfeasance in office, for committing crimes in office, and then file with this new prosecuting attorney that's going to be coming in.
[01:40:02.160 --> 01:40:03.160]  Excellent.
[01:40:03.160 --> 01:40:07.160]  Let's all let's all go welcome him to the deep end of the pool.
[01:40:07.160 --> 01:40:08.160]  I love it.
[01:40:08.160 --> 01:40:09.160]  Yeah.
[01:40:09.160 --> 01:40:11.160]  And that's actually that's why I did it.
[01:40:11.160 --> 01:40:14.160]  You know, I says, okay, I'm going to do brandy star ball idea.
[01:40:14.160 --> 01:40:17.160]  And we're going to get the tar baby roll.
[01:40:17.160 --> 01:40:21.160]  So that's that's point number one, I was really happy about that in one sense.
[01:40:21.160 --> 01:40:32.160]  In another sense, I was like, this is crazy, you know, but you know, so, so now I said, I said, okay, you denied me the judicial conduct complaint.
[01:40:32.160 --> 01:40:36.160]  You dismissed that case, but you can't dismiss the criminal complaint.
[01:40:36.160 --> 01:40:39.160]  You can't do that.
[01:40:39.160 --> 01:40:40.160]  That's right.
[01:40:40.160 --> 01:40:43.160]  These two judges were magistrates.
[01:40:43.160 --> 01:40:44.160]  There you go.
[01:40:44.160 --> 01:40:46.160]  They must present it.
[01:40:46.160 --> 01:40:52.160]  Copy as it may be and whatever, but they got to present it, you know, and there should be an investigation into it.
[01:40:52.160 --> 01:41:01.160]  And isn't that so that if you make out a verified criminal complaint, you don't have to be of loaded counsel.
[01:41:01.160 --> 01:41:02.160]  Is that correct?
[01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:09.160]  Brandy that is the intent that ordinary citizens make up criminal complaints.
[01:41:09.160 --> 01:41:17.160]  That's why the prosecuting attorney is required to take the complaint and reduce the complaint to an information.
[01:41:17.160 --> 01:41:27.160]  And information is a complaint prepared by a prosecuting attorney that is accurate in accordance with law.
[01:41:27.160 --> 01:41:29.160]  Right.
[01:41:29.160 --> 01:41:36.160]  So it is intended that a complaint be essentially informal.
[01:41:36.160 --> 01:41:39.160]  That ordinary citizens file it.
[01:41:39.160 --> 01:41:44.160]  Even police officers, when they file a complaint, do not do so in their capacity as a police officer.
[01:41:44.160 --> 01:41:45.160]  Right.
[01:41:45.160 --> 01:41:51.160]  They do do it in their capacity as a credible person.
[01:41:51.160 --> 01:41:52.160]  I see.
[01:41:52.160 --> 01:41:53.160]  Interesting.
[01:41:53.160 --> 01:41:54.160]  Yeah.
[01:41:54.160 --> 01:41:59.160]  So I've never been convicted of a felony over the age of 18.
[01:41:59.160 --> 01:42:00.160]  Right.
[01:42:00.160 --> 01:42:07.160]  So these judges have a problem, this would be an interesting question.
[01:42:07.160 --> 01:42:08.160]  Yeah.
[01:42:08.160 --> 01:42:10.160]  How do they avoid this issue?
[01:42:10.160 --> 01:42:12.160]  So this is perfect.
[01:42:12.160 --> 01:42:17.160]  I made call on Monday and say, yeah, who are the judges on the panel?
[01:42:17.160 --> 01:42:21.160]  And what did you do with the verified criminal affidavits that were sent to you?
[01:42:21.160 --> 01:42:25.160]  We will eventually have everybody with these charges.
[01:42:25.160 --> 01:42:33.160]  We've got the Chief Justice, Mike Handel's got the Chief Justice and all of the judges at the Court of Criminal Appeals.
[01:42:33.160 --> 01:42:34.160]  Right.
[01:42:34.160 --> 01:42:39.160]  Now you'll have the Commission on Judicial Conduct and I'll be going for the Attorney General.
[01:42:39.160 --> 01:42:45.160]  After I go to this new prosecutor and he doesn't act, then I take the new prosecutor to the Attorney General.
[01:42:45.160 --> 01:42:46.160]  Right.
[01:42:46.160 --> 01:42:47.160]  Good.
[01:42:47.160 --> 01:42:52.160]  I think, you know, they start seeing these things coming at them one after another.
[01:42:52.160 --> 01:42:53.160]  Yeah.
[01:42:53.160 --> 01:43:02.160]  They have to wonder, you know, which one of these guys is going to get this before a grand jury and start into our careers?
[01:43:02.160 --> 01:43:03.160]  Right.
[01:43:03.160 --> 01:43:05.160]  And it gets closer and closer on them.
[01:43:05.160 --> 01:43:09.160]  And then maybe they'll start backing down and saying, maybe we ought to watch our step here.
[01:43:09.160 --> 01:43:12.160]  These people are going for it.
[01:43:12.160 --> 01:43:19.160]  They've got to read the law and actually follow it a little bit before these guys get kicked out of office.
[01:43:19.160 --> 01:43:21.160]  Exactly.
[01:43:21.160 --> 01:43:22.160]  That's great.
[01:43:22.160 --> 01:43:23.160]  Okay.
[01:43:23.160 --> 01:43:24.160]  Thank you.
[01:43:24.160 --> 01:43:26.160]  Do you have any more for us to do this?
[01:43:26.160 --> 01:43:29.160]  No, I think, you know, let it go on to your other people there.
[01:43:29.160 --> 01:43:33.160]  I'm going to send you a little contribution and thank you, Randy.
[01:43:33.160 --> 01:43:34.160]  Thank you, Jucilius.
[01:43:34.160 --> 01:43:37.160]  And especially thank you for the contribution.
[01:43:37.160 --> 01:43:38.160]  You should be asked.
[01:43:38.160 --> 01:43:40.160]  My beer, I was getting it.
[01:43:40.160 --> 01:43:42.160]  This is Randy Kelton, Douglas Stevens.
[01:43:42.160 --> 01:43:43.160]  So, thank you, Mike.
[01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:45.160]  Eddie Craig, you rule the law and radio.
[01:43:45.160 --> 01:43:47.160]  Don't, oh, thank you much.
[01:43:47.160 --> 01:43:49.160]  I feel disparaged.
[01:43:49.160 --> 01:43:51.160]  But he's right.
[01:43:51.160 --> 01:43:54.160]  Call in number 5126461984.
[01:43:54.160 --> 01:44:23.160]  We'll be right back.
[01:44:24.160 --> 01:44:26.160]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:28.160]  Go check it out for yourself.
[01:44:28.160 --> 01:44:32.160]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street just south of UT.
[01:44:32.160 --> 01:44:35.160]  Oh, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:44:35.160 --> 01:44:43.160]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility just behind the bookstore.
[01:44:43.160 --> 01:44:47.160]  It does exist, but when are they open?
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[01:46:28.160 --> 01:46:32.160]  And we're going to Blake in Texas.
[01:46:32.160 --> 01:46:34.160]  Hello, Blake.
[01:46:34.160 --> 01:46:37.160]  What do you have for us tonight?
[01:46:37.160 --> 01:46:43.160]  Well, I'd like to thank you for the service you provide to the rule of law radio show.
[01:46:43.160 --> 01:46:50.160]  I don't know if this can, if I can actually be helped, but maybe it'll help someone else in the future because
[01:46:50.160 --> 01:46:57.160]  the indictment process is something I heard y'all talking about the grand juries and all.
[01:46:57.160 --> 01:47:00.160]  I'll put it straight out.
[01:47:00.160 --> 01:47:13.160]  In about 2006, in Austin, in Travis County, I was indicted for criminal conspiracy, which I had nothing to do with.
[01:47:13.160 --> 01:47:22.160]  And later, the case was dismissed. The wording was in the interest of justice.
[01:47:22.160 --> 01:47:32.160]  It was a burglary that had gone on in the cul-de-sac behind where I rented a duplex.
[01:47:32.160 --> 01:47:40.160]  And it turned out, of course, I had to spend like $4,000 to retain a lawyer to defend me and they hired a PI.
[01:47:40.160 --> 01:47:57.160]  Well, I had a receipt that I saved because at the time, that day, I was getting a bicycle and a tube and I had a time stamped receipt from the store
[01:47:57.160 --> 01:48:03.160]  that showed where I was at the time that I was supposed to be taking part in this.
[01:48:03.160 --> 01:48:11.160]  I don't know if it was a burglary or a robbery or what at an apartment complex.
[01:48:11.160 --> 01:48:17.160]  So they indicted me. I had to spend a lot of money on the lawyer and all that.
[01:48:17.160 --> 01:48:25.160]  Later, the case is dismissed in the interest of justice.
[01:48:25.160 --> 01:48:27.160]  Are we still connected?
[01:48:27.160 --> 01:48:29.160]  Yeah, we're still connected.
[01:48:29.160 --> 01:48:35.160]  Okay. And what I was wondering, okay, here I am, I'm innocent.
[01:48:35.160 --> 01:48:39.160]  I've been indicted on what evidence?
[01:48:39.160 --> 01:48:49.160]  I mean, I was shocked the day that the two officers, I think they were sheriffs, came and knocked on my door.
[01:48:49.160 --> 01:48:52.160]  And I'm like, what are these guys doing here?
[01:48:52.160 --> 01:48:56.160]  And I entered the door and they're like, Blake Goss and, well, anyway, that's who I am.
[01:48:56.160 --> 01:49:00.160]  And I said, yes. And they said, we're sorry.
[01:49:00.160 --> 01:49:05.160]  We have an indictment here for you. And I was like, what?
[01:49:05.160 --> 01:49:08.160]  I was shocked. I was shocked.
[01:49:08.160 --> 01:49:12.160]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
[01:49:12.160 --> 01:49:16.160]  They gave you an indictment? Did they arrest you?
[01:49:16.160 --> 01:49:20.160]  They took me to jail right then, yeah.
[01:49:20.160 --> 01:49:23.160]  They couldn't have an indictment?
[01:49:23.160 --> 01:49:26.160]  Well, that's what they said that you've been indicted.
[01:49:26.160 --> 01:49:36.160]  Okay. Well, the indictment can't be filed until you've been arrested.
[01:49:36.160 --> 01:49:39.160]  Oh, boy. Well, okay.
[01:49:39.160 --> 01:49:46.160]  Okay, this may be what they may, okay, this just goes through some procedural things.
[01:49:46.160 --> 01:49:55.160]  The indictment might have been brought and a warrant issued, but the indictment won't be filed with the court until you've been arrested.
[01:49:55.160 --> 01:50:01.160]  Well, maybe they spoke wrong because I came up with a word indicted from them.
[01:50:01.160 --> 01:50:06.160]  I mean, they didn't tell me we have a warrant for your arrest. They're like, we haven't, you've been indicted.
[01:50:06.160 --> 01:50:09.160]  That's why we're arresting you or something like that.
[01:50:09.160 --> 01:50:14.160]  Okay. Well, that's kind of a technical issue.
[01:50:14.160 --> 01:50:18.160]  What evidence did they have?
[01:50:18.160 --> 01:50:22.160]  I've fought the eyewitness evidence.
[01:50:22.160 --> 01:50:30.160]  Apparently, I mean, there was not a lot of anglows in that neighborhood, so apparently I was the one.
[01:50:30.160 --> 01:50:33.160]  Oh, those white guys look alike?
[01:50:33.160 --> 01:50:41.160]  Apparently. I mean, it was pretty strange as I was coming back from getting my inner tube.
[01:50:41.160 --> 01:50:46.160]  I win as sometimes I do and other people do. There's two cul-de-sacs there.
[01:50:46.160 --> 01:50:52.160]  And I went down into the one below my house in my truck and all I was going to do was drive through.
[01:50:52.160 --> 01:51:00.160]  There's just some, it's like about two-thirds of the cul-de-sac is wilderness more or less.
[01:51:00.160 --> 01:51:07.160]  So I was driving around there and then I was going to drive around up to my street park and be at home and start working on my bicycle.
[01:51:07.160 --> 01:51:12.160]  Well, I didn't know that there was anything going on down there.
[01:51:12.160 --> 01:51:19.160]  But as I'm about halfway through the turn in the cul-de-sac, I hear an APD holler at me, freeze.
[01:51:19.160 --> 01:51:26.160]  And I'm like, I looked over at him and I'm going, you know, like three miles an hour making a circle in my truck.
[01:51:26.160 --> 01:51:31.160]  And he still got either a taser or a gun pointed at me. So yeah, I froze. You bet.
[01:51:31.160 --> 01:51:37.160]  And they ended up putting me in cuffs, put me in the back of the cruiser.
[01:51:37.160 --> 01:51:46.160]  And at that point is when they must have told me, because how else would I know that there's been a burglary over here.
[01:51:46.160 --> 01:51:49.160]  And these guys are saying you're the one that did it.
[01:51:49.160 --> 01:51:54.160]  And I got more information than I was supposed to have jumped off of a balcony.
[01:51:54.160 --> 01:51:59.160]  And I'm turning around and I'm in the back of the cruiser with my handcuffs on and I'm looking at the guys.
[01:51:59.160 --> 01:52:04.160]  They're mostly Mexican nationals. I don't know if any of them spoke in English or not.
[01:52:04.160 --> 01:52:08.160]  And a bunch of them are standing in front of the apartment complex.
[01:52:08.160 --> 01:52:13.160]  I'm looking at them. I'm going, you guys know it wasn't me. And none of them will look me in the eye.
[01:52:13.160 --> 01:52:18.160]  Well, later on, the owner of the apartment complex comes over.
[01:52:18.160 --> 01:52:23.160]  This guy speaks English. He's Hispanic. I mean, I'm not a prejudice person.
[01:52:23.160 --> 01:52:32.160]  I mean, it's just we have different color skin. I'm not a racist like that. I'm not a hater like that.
[01:52:32.160 --> 01:52:40.160]  So they bring him to the back window of the cruiser and I'm still sitting there.
[01:52:40.160 --> 01:52:43.160]  And it's weird. He wouldn't look me in the eye either when he's talking to me.
[01:52:43.160 --> 01:52:48.160]  He wouldn't look me in the eye. And I'm standing right at the top of his head because he's looking down at the ground.
[01:52:48.160 --> 01:52:55.160]  He says, we're not going to press charges today. I'm like, well, good, because it wasn't me.
[01:52:55.160 --> 01:52:59.160]  That's great. You know, I don't have anything to do with this.
[01:52:59.160 --> 01:53:11.160]  And that was that. The police let me go and I thought it was over. And it was like a, I don't know, a week or two weeks later.
[01:53:11.160 --> 01:53:14.160]  So they did have someone pointing a finger at you?
[01:53:14.160 --> 01:53:16.160]  Yes, they did.
[01:53:16.160 --> 01:53:20.160]  This would give you no claim against the police department.
[01:53:20.160 --> 01:53:23.160]  Right.
[01:53:23.160 --> 01:53:37.160]  If you were able to make a claim against a prosecuting agency when they didn't give a conviction, then the prosecuting agencies would be afraid to try to prosecute.
[01:53:37.160 --> 01:53:44.160]  Unless they had absolutely overwhelming evidence and that would not be a good thing.
[01:53:44.160 --> 01:53:51.160]  This is a free country. And the problem with freedom is it's not always free.
[01:53:51.160 --> 01:53:53.160]  Okay.
[01:53:53.160 --> 01:54:00.160]  But in some, there's some things that prices we pay for living in a free country.
[01:54:00.160 --> 01:54:05.160]  If this were not a free country, you'd have probably had it a whole lot worse.
[01:54:05.160 --> 01:54:09.160]  And yes, it is unfair when you're falsely accused.
[01:54:09.160 --> 01:54:15.160]  Well, but also, it was by the grace of God that I say that receipt.
[01:54:15.160 --> 01:54:25.160]  It was in my, it was a receipt for a bicycle interview for like $1.89 or a tire patch repair, which I saved and was in my kitchen drawer.
[01:54:25.160 --> 01:54:45.160]  And I was able to show that to the PI that my lawyer hired. And apparently that's, that's the only defensive, what do you call it, evidence that I had to present other than my own worse.
[01:54:45.160 --> 01:54:53.160]  Well, it sounds like you lucked out. And that's a good reason to keep receipts.
[01:54:53.160 --> 01:55:00.160]  Don't tell Catherine Albrecht, but that might be a good reason for an RFDI chip because you could prove where you were.
[01:55:00.160 --> 01:55:02.160]  I'm telling you.
[01:55:02.160 --> 01:55:08.160]  But, you know, all things work together for good. And sometimes we don't, you know, you're right.
[01:55:08.160 --> 01:55:22.160]  You know, of course, I'm glad, I was glad that I could not have to be, you know, spend time for criminal conspiracy when I had nothing to do with it.
[01:55:22.160 --> 01:55:26.160]  I didn't know the guys that did it. I didn't have anything to do with it.
[01:55:26.160 --> 01:55:32.160]  Oh, so they were asserting that you were working with the guys who did it.
[01:55:32.160 --> 01:55:37.160]  Not that you actually entered the habitat.
[01:55:37.160 --> 01:55:39.160]  Exactly.
[01:55:39.160 --> 01:55:43.160]  And here, and here's the only contact.
[01:55:43.160 --> 01:55:53.160]  And I haven't really withheld this information on purpose, but I still don't know the guy's name. I had given, apparently, I think the guy that did have something to do with it.
[01:55:53.160 --> 01:55:58.160]  I had given him a cigarette earlier.
[01:55:58.160 --> 01:56:08.160]  And it was weird when he asked me for a cigarette, I felt like not giving him one, but I went ahead and did it anyway.
[01:56:08.160 --> 01:56:13.160]  So it's all your fault because you gave him a cigarette. Okay.
[01:56:13.160 --> 01:56:21.160]  So it sounds like, you know, it sounds like this doesn't sound like anything malicious.
[01:56:21.160 --> 01:56:28.160]  It may be that these Mexicans were afraid to have any involvement with the police at all.
[01:56:28.160 --> 01:56:37.160]  And they may have actually thought you had something to do with it because I guess whoever robbed them were angry.
[01:56:37.160 --> 01:56:43.160]  It's the world we live in. It's not far all the time and sometimes we get subjected to mistreatment.
[01:56:43.160 --> 01:56:47.160]  Yeah, there's no case for wrongful arrest or wrongful prosecution.
[01:56:47.160 --> 01:56:50.160]  No, not if they had witnesses.
[01:56:50.160 --> 01:57:02.160]  And the witnesses themselves, unless you could prove they were intentionally lying, you know, the fact that they wouldn't look at you, maybe that they were afraid of retaliation.
[01:57:02.160 --> 01:57:10.160]  So it doesn't mean that they weren't telling what they believed to be the truth because all you white guys do look alike.
[01:57:10.160 --> 01:57:11.160]  Sure.
[01:57:11.160 --> 01:57:22.160]  So, you know, it might have been everybody doing the right thing here and in the end justice did prevail because you got lucky and was able to prove you're out, but you'd have no case at all.
[01:57:22.160 --> 01:57:23.160]  Okay.
[01:57:23.160 --> 01:57:25.160]  There are places where you might have a case.
[01:57:25.160 --> 01:57:32.160]  I mean, there are some really technical issues we can bring like when they arrested you, did they take you to a magistrate?
[01:57:32.160 --> 01:57:39.160]  There's a number of issues there we can make, but we haven't won any of those yet.
[01:57:39.160 --> 01:57:45.160]  And it would take someone with a bit more sophistication to effectively take on those issues.
[01:57:45.160 --> 01:57:51.160]  What kind of brought this up into my mind recently was I was on my bicycle downtown.
[01:57:51.160 --> 01:58:04.160]  I got detained by Boston City and they said it says here on your, they did my, you know, ran my data.
[01:58:04.160 --> 01:58:08.160]  They said you were suspect in a burglar.
[01:58:08.160 --> 01:58:09.160]  I'm like, what?
[01:58:09.160 --> 01:58:15.160]  And I told, I told the guy that got dropped for an interest of does he go to do it?
[01:58:15.160 --> 01:58:16.160]  Okay.
[01:58:16.160 --> 01:58:17.160]  Hang on, hang on.
[01:58:17.160 --> 01:58:19.160]  I'd like to address that on the other side.
[01:58:19.160 --> 01:58:21.160]  We're about to go to break.
[01:58:21.160 --> 01:58:23.160]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:23.160 --> 01:58:28.160]  We have the radio are calling them 512-646-1984.
[01:58:28.160 --> 01:58:32.160]  And I actually saw the esteemed Chris Emery come up on my board.
[01:58:32.160 --> 01:58:33.160]  Yahoo.
[01:58:33.160 --> 01:58:34.160]  Okay.
[01:58:34.160 --> 01:58:37.160]  We will pick us up on the other side.
[01:58:37.160 --> 01:58:40.160]  I do want to address that last point very quickly.
[01:58:40.160 --> 01:58:42.160]  We will go to Chris.
[01:58:42.160 --> 01:58:45.160]  So give us a call 512-646-1984.
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