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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000] Do not pass go. Go directly to jail. That's what lawbreakers normally hear from courts.
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[00:12.000 --> 00:15.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and in a moment, I'll tell you what it is.
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[00:44.000 --> 00:49.000] No country puts a bigger share of its citizens behind bars than the U.S.
[00:49.000 --> 00:56.000] But in Baymanette, Alabama, one judge is offering a novel alternative to jail. Go to church on Sundays.
[00:56.000 --> 01:02.000] This only applies to people convicted of misdemeanors and offenders must check in weekly with their pastor and the police.
[01:02.000 --> 01:06.000] Then after 52 sermons, their cases are dismissed.
[01:06.000 --> 01:10.000] The ACLU says this violates the separation between church and state.
[01:10.000 --> 01:14.000] And other critics say it's unfair to atheists and minority religions.
[01:14.000 --> 01:22.000] But I see the program is at least worth trying. Being in church on Sunday rather than a prison cell just might change the lives of people on the wrong path.
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[01:34.000 --> 01:39.000] Once marketers wanted to know all about you, but now they want to know all about your friends.
[01:39.000 --> 01:47.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back to tell you about the tracking technique web advertisers call social retargeting in a moment.
[02:10.000 --> 02:16.000] We know marketers can track our web surfing habits by placing cookies in our browsers.
[02:16.000 --> 02:22.000] But now marketers aren't just tracking you, they're tracking who your friends are and what you share with them.
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[02:34.000 --> 02:41.000] But those links contain data that transmits your identity. When your friends click the links, you both get tracked together.
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[03:20.000 --> 03:26.000] Tell me what you're gonna do and what you're gonna do.
[03:26.000 --> 03:34.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do when they come for you.
[03:34.000 --> 03:40.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do when they come for you.
[03:40.000 --> 03:45.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you go to school and learn to go and then lose.
[03:45.000 --> 03:50.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool if you get f**ked and you're most just cool.
[03:50.000 --> 04:01.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do when they come for you.
[04:01.000 --> 04:04.000] You're choking on that one, you're choking on this one.
[04:04.000 --> 04:07.000] You're choking on your mother, you're choking on your father.
[04:07.000 --> 04:10.000] You're choking on your daughter, you're choking on your sister.
[04:10.000 --> 04:12.000] You're choking on that one, you're choking on me.
[04:12.000 --> 04:35.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do when they come for you.
[04:35.000 --> 04:37.000] your body not giving a break
[04:37.000 --> 04:39.000] for you panda giving no break
[04:39.000 --> 04:41.000] you are an open soldier
[04:41.000 --> 04:43.000] panda giving no break
[04:43.000 --> 04:45.000] not keeping your eyes you are not giving no break
[04:45.000 --> 04:47.000] bad boys, bad boys
[04:47.000 --> 04:49.000] what are you gonna do
[04:49.000 --> 04:51.000] ?what you gonna do when they come for you
[04:51.000 --> 04:53.000] bad boys, bad boys
[04:53.000 --> 04:55.000] how what you gonna do
[04:55.000 --> 04:57.000] ?when they come for you
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[04:59.000 --> 05:01.000] ?what you gonna do
[05:01.000 --> 05:03.000] ?when they come for you
[05:03.000 --> 05:32.840] I'm able to print as many or as few copies as I would like and so for this
[05:32.840 --> 05:43.880] particular timeframe I only printed 15 copies. I have 14 people that I have
[05:43.880 --> 05:51.840] sent the book to this afternoon. People, well G. Edward Griffin primarily, I am
[05:51.840 --> 06:00.880] hoping that he will write the forward to the book. Sheriff Mack, Alex Jones and a
[06:00.880 --> 06:08.160] number of other people and one I've asked them to proofread the book. Obviously
[06:08.160 --> 06:15.520] you want to find all the typos if there are any more and when we communicate
[06:15.520 --> 06:22.880] with other people we take for granted that other people know the things that
[06:22.880 --> 06:28.440] we are thinking and sometimes there's confusion because you know you're just
[06:28.440 --> 06:33.420] going to you know take your own life history for granted. Well one of the
[06:33.420 --> 06:39.600] things that I've asked them to do is to you know flag any areas that do not make
[06:39.600 --> 06:47.440] complete and total sense. Doesn't do me any good to write a book and
[06:47.440 --> 06:53.920] then have a paragraph or a chapter completely indecipherable because I left
[06:53.920 --> 07:00.800] out some something that seemed obvious to me and and then I'm also asking these
[07:00.800 --> 07:07.960] people to write a small advertising blur whenever you pick up a book the back
[07:07.960 --> 07:16.040] cover usually has you know one or two sentences from famous people that have
[07:16.040 --> 07:20.760] read the book and are approving the book you know basically encouraging you to
[07:20.760 --> 07:24.720] buy the book and read it because all this is information you just can't live
[07:24.720 --> 07:33.240] without. So this is a draft copy of the book. It looks perfect to me as it is
[07:33.240 --> 07:42.000] but again I'm fairly biased and I know what I thought I said so once I get
[07:42.000 --> 07:50.480] these books back then I will be able to make all my editorial changes and then
[07:50.480 --> 07:59.960] request a much larger print of books that will soon be available for sale. Good
[07:59.960 --> 08:05.320] it looks like Randy may have joined us. Randy are you there? Yeah I'm here still
[08:05.320 --> 08:10.760] still on a train five minutes out of Austin. We've been here in almost an
[08:10.760 --> 08:17.360] hour waiting for a freight train to pass. So this is a little background noise.
[08:17.360 --> 08:27.760] Don't tell Deborah. Hello Michael. Hey Randy are you my friend? I have been doing good as long as I don't get
[08:27.760 --> 08:36.200] lacerated by Deborah's sharp tongue. Yeah well she is kind of a pit bull isn't she?
[08:36.200 --> 08:41.960] But she is. She's on our side. Yeah I'm glad she's on our side. She really
[08:41.960 --> 08:47.560] struggles to get to give a good production so she's never pleased I have to
[08:47.560 --> 08:55.460] do it outside the studio. Yeah. Well that's what you get for being traveling in the
[08:55.460 --> 09:06.640] middle of a show Randy. That's a risky run. That's a risky run. I'm here. Well at least as much as usual right?
[09:06.640 --> 09:12.000] Yes as much as usual. Well Michael do you want to test a little bit about what
[09:12.000 --> 09:20.200] all your book is going to deal with? Well as we were talking briefly yesterday I
[09:20.200 --> 09:28.040] get lots and lots of phone calls people asking me for advice and counseling and
[09:28.040 --> 09:34.520] well they're looking for legal advice and they don't know it but they are
[09:34.520 --> 09:40.680] hoping that I have some sort of government form that they can fill out or
[09:40.680 --> 09:50.200] or possibly a letter or some kind of a court motion that they can send to
[09:50.200 --> 09:56.080] whatever branch of government they're upset with and make the government go
[09:56.080 --> 10:06.720] away and unfortunately those pieces of paper just don't exist. Let me have a
[10:06.720 --> 10:13.120] paragraph quite literally that deals with that exactly and it says most of the
[10:13.120 --> 10:18.440] questions people ask me boil down to this. How can I live my life the way I
[10:18.440 --> 10:24.800] want without government interference? My response is first I have to sprinkle you
[10:24.800 --> 10:30.160] with fairy dust and say the magic words. I'm kidding of course fairy dust
[10:30.160 --> 10:36.280] doesn't exist and magic is simply trickery. Ironically that's how the
[10:36.280 --> 10:42.040] government made you a slave in the first place trickery. However if you are
[10:42.040 --> 10:47.320] serious about living your life as a free person and I mean serious as a heart
[10:47.320 --> 10:52.760] attack the kind of serious Patrick Henry was talking about when he said give me
[10:52.760 --> 10:57.120] liberty or give me death then it is possible to start moving in the
[10:57.120 --> 11:06.560] direction of really being free. So the the book is the answer it is not the
[11:06.560 --> 11:12.800] answer that most people may be hoping for or expecting but at the end of the
[11:12.800 --> 11:17.600] book you'll know where you stand and you'll know what is required and then
[11:17.600 --> 11:24.120] you can decide whether you're going to you know live up to the task of really
[11:24.120 --> 11:29.400] being sovereign and again I've taken it for granted. The title of my new
[11:29.400 --> 11:38.040] book is secret to sovereignty or how to survive the second American revolution.
[11:39.280 --> 11:46.760] Michael can you give us kind of a brief rundown of the different chapters?
[11:46.760 --> 11:59.800] I can and the first chapter is called what is sovereignty? I mean if we're
[11:59.800 --> 12:04.080] going to aim for it we have to know what it is we have to be able to define it
[12:04.080 --> 12:10.640] and yeah we have to know what it is if we finally achieve it and so I go through
[12:10.640 --> 12:17.880] and give kind of my examples and demonstrations of what it is and years
[12:17.880 --> 12:24.280] and years ago when I started teaching my Constitution class I had a three ring
[12:24.280 --> 12:34.280] binder and about 68 pages of notes and part of those notes was a document that
[12:34.280 --> 12:41.360] I had found and downloaded off of the Internet and actually wrote an email to
[12:41.360 --> 12:49.080] the author and got permission from him to include his document in my three ring
[12:49.080 --> 12:56.760] binder. Well I did not include that document in Good to be King because I
[12:56.760 --> 13:02.240] was really talking about the Constitution and not sovereignty but as I
[13:02.240 --> 13:07.200] started to to write this book I realized wait a minute this was this was a
[13:07.200 --> 13:13.680] document I read it you know from front to back and it was perfect it nailed it
[13:13.680 --> 13:20.360] right on there so I went back to the Internet to attempt to locate the
[13:20.360 --> 13:28.600] author to get permission for this new use of his document and to the best of my
[13:28.600 --> 13:35.600] research the author no longer exists the website where I found the document
[13:35.600 --> 13:45.160] ceased to exist in 2004 and so if the author of that document shows up and you
[13:45.160 --> 13:52.520] know I will be happy to give him credit but it is a discussion quite literally
[13:52.520 --> 13:58.360] the title of his document is what is a sovereign individual and he goes through
[13:58.360 --> 14:05.200] with dictionary definitions and essentially creates three stages of
[14:05.200 --> 14:12.600] sovereignty the first stage is mental sovereignty I mean you really have to
[14:12.600 --> 14:19.440] kind of know in your head that you are sovereign I mean if you don't believe it
[14:19.440 --> 14:25.240] you're never going to get anybody else to believe it the second stage would be
[14:25.240 --> 14:31.320] financial sovereignty you have all this wealth all this property and
[14:31.320 --> 14:38.840] unfortunately the the government is taking you know a large percentage of
[14:38.840 --> 14:48.080] your stuff and he explains different methods of avoiding you know government
[14:48.080 --> 14:52.320] interference with your with your finances and he admits that you may have
[14:52.320 --> 14:58.000] to do some kind of low-profile running around the world in order to keep most
[14:58.000 --> 15:06.240] of your stuff and the third phase would be physical sovereignty and that's where
[15:06.240 --> 15:09.800] not only do you know that you are sovereign but everybody around you
[15:09.800 --> 15:16.080] agrees and they treat you as sovereign he said that's a long way off but it will
[15:16.080 --> 15:27.080] happen sooner or later chapter 2 is called assertive versus submissive and
[15:27.080 --> 15:34.680] it is the most important chapter in the book I find it ironic that chapter 2 of
[15:34.680 --> 15:43.240] my first book was also the most important and assertive versus submissive
[15:43.240 --> 15:53.160] talks about the the mental attitude I start out discussing tic-tac-toe adults
[15:53.160 --> 15:57.960] do not play tic-tac-toe we don't go to the bar and scratch out a couple of games
[15:57.960 --> 16:02.440] of tic-tac-toe in the cocktail napkin as we're waiting for our beer to show up
[16:02.440 --> 16:10.120] because tic-tac-toe is a logic lesson and adults already know that lesson
[16:10.120 --> 16:17.040] children have not learned the difference between you know a bad move and a
[16:17.040 --> 16:22.560] good move in tic-tac-toe even though game is ultimately very simple and so in
[16:22.560 --> 16:31.000] tic-tac-toe the only way that you can win the game is for your opponent to do
[16:31.000 --> 16:37.200] something really simple and stupid and lose the game if both people know how to
[16:37.200 --> 16:44.840] play and both people maintain a medium amount of logic every every single game
[16:44.840 --> 16:50.840] is gonna come up with a draw and we're about to go to break
[16:50.840 --> 16:56.280] folks this is rule of law radio this is our 12 October show hanging there will
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[20:14.680 --> 20:20.680] All right, let's continue on, Mr. Baden-Erik.
[20:20.680 --> 20:30.080] I was using the game of tic-tac-toe as kind of a metaphor for the way we live our lives.
[20:30.080 --> 20:37.240] In tic-tac-toe, the only way that you can win the game is for somebody else to physically
[20:37.240 --> 20:39.480] lose the game.
[20:39.480 --> 20:49.880] And I was comparing that to dominant versus submissive, if the only way for someone else
[20:49.880 --> 21:01.080] to win and be dominant over you is for you to be submissive and willingly lose the game.
[21:01.080 --> 21:04.400] And really, it's kind of just an attitude.
[21:04.400 --> 21:10.240] And from there, I go through a number of personal anecdotes.
[21:10.240 --> 21:20.360] As many of my fans will know, I've had more than a fair share of encounters with the police
[21:20.360 --> 21:24.320] officers of various cities.
[21:24.320 --> 21:33.760] And I am encouraging people to not shake in your boots, don't automatically let the police
[21:33.760 --> 21:36.120] officer win.
[21:36.120 --> 21:38.200] There's no reason to be disrespectful.
[21:38.200 --> 21:47.720] You can be polite, but keep in mind that police officers are supposed to be polite to you too.
[21:47.720 --> 21:48.720] Works for me.
[21:48.720 --> 21:51.760] Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be in the manual they read.
[21:51.760 --> 21:52.760] No.
[21:52.760 --> 21:56.880] Brandon, are you still there?
[21:56.880 --> 21:57.880] Yes.
[21:57.880 --> 22:04.040] Sometimes, I think Eddie works at trying to get police officers to beat him into unconsciousness.
[22:04.040 --> 22:10.400] Well, I'll get him a step stool so I can get up there and try.
[22:10.400 --> 22:17.240] That chapter, I thought, was very well written because it does give us fair warning.
[22:17.240 --> 22:23.760] If you want to go and get out here and fight for your rights and you want to take the plate
[22:23.760 --> 22:29.320] off your car and say, I don't need those plates, well, you need to be ready to fight the fight
[22:29.320 --> 22:35.400] and don't imagine that because you think you have a righteous position that the other side
[22:35.400 --> 22:41.400] is just going to say, oh my goodness, you are right and just lay down a little bit for
[22:41.400 --> 22:42.400] you.
[22:42.400 --> 22:45.960] I'm not going to work that way.
[22:45.960 --> 22:52.120] And I was really pleased with that chapter of Michael's book because he made that point
[22:52.120 --> 22:54.120] real well.
[22:54.120 --> 22:58.560] Well, I always like Michael's books.
[22:58.560 --> 23:01.760] They're aimed in the same direction we all want to go.
[23:01.760 --> 23:10.640] Well, we want things to be easier and I think the important part, and then the point Michael
[23:10.640 --> 23:16.120] makes about being a sovereign, is sovereignty is not something you just decide that you
[23:16.120 --> 23:17.120] want.
[23:17.120 --> 23:27.720] Sovereignty is not something you just assert, sovereignty is acting like a sovereign.
[23:27.720 --> 23:34.240] And that's harder than it appears because it takes some dedication, it takes some risk
[23:34.240 --> 23:41.800] because the bad guys are not always in a mood to grant you a sovereignty, you have to take
[23:41.800 --> 23:42.800] it.
[23:42.800 --> 23:49.120] And they will fight back, you have to expect that.
[23:49.120 --> 24:00.160] So, did you guys want to bring your candidate on at this point?
[24:00.160 --> 24:08.320] Yeah, Eddie, you want to, well, actually we're going to kind of finish out this segment.
[24:08.320 --> 24:09.320] Okay.
[24:09.320 --> 24:15.680] So, give us a brief over the other chapters so we kind of know what we're getting into
[24:15.680 --> 24:18.640] and what to expect from the book.
[24:18.640 --> 24:19.640] Okay.
[24:19.640 --> 24:27.960] So, after we talk about assertive versus submissive, the next chapter is fear.
[24:27.960 --> 24:34.480] And I discuss personal experiences and how fear will affect our decision making.
[24:34.480 --> 24:44.560] Then I talk about conformity, which is similar to fear, it's basically peer pressure, doing
[24:44.560 --> 24:50.880] things because you want to be part of the cool kids' table.
[24:50.880 --> 24:58.720] And then I talk about bravery and actually standing up for yourself.
[24:58.720 --> 25:04.080] There are certain situations where when you really don't have any other choice, you may
[25:04.080 --> 25:06.720] as well give it all you get.
[25:06.720 --> 25:12.760] Most of us know that, you know, even a mouse went back into a corner will, you know, turn
[25:12.760 --> 25:17.400] pretty ruthless and fight for its life.
[25:17.400 --> 25:24.400] Then a really important chapter on ideology.
[25:24.400 --> 25:38.360] I demonstrate that no human action ever takes place without mental thought process happening
[25:38.360 --> 25:39.840] first.
[25:39.840 --> 25:46.920] We can look at the Hoover Dam, we can look at the Golden Gate Bridge, and those are,
[25:46.920 --> 25:50.880] you know, just human wonders.
[25:50.880 --> 25:58.320] I've seen documentaries on how those structures were built and the technology they used to
[25:58.320 --> 26:05.600] create them, but you could not have created them without a lot of engineering drawings.
[26:05.600 --> 26:13.800] I mean, there was a lot of work mentally before those objects became reality.
[26:13.800 --> 26:22.360] And then I point out that even a sand castle on the beach does not occur without somebody
[26:22.360 --> 26:25.160] building a mental picture of it.
[26:25.160 --> 26:29.720] I mean, you've got to think about what you want before you can, you know, scoop it out
[26:29.720 --> 26:32.120] of the sand.
[26:32.120 --> 26:41.480] And then I say that even freedom and slavery must happen first as a thought process.
[26:41.480 --> 26:47.880] You know, somebody had to think up slavery and, you know, decide that that's what they
[26:47.880 --> 26:48.880] wanted.
[26:48.880 --> 26:59.600] And so in order to create a really, truly free country and to truly be sovereign, you
[26:59.600 --> 27:03.880] have to understand the proper ideology.
[27:03.880 --> 27:06.880] It's not going to happen just accidentally.
[27:06.880 --> 27:13.320] When I talk about intelligence and integrity, which are two personal traits that are required
[27:13.320 --> 27:23.200] in order to be sovereign, Thomas Jefferson said that if you want to be ignorant and free,
[27:23.200 --> 27:27.840] you want something that never was and never will be.
[27:27.840 --> 27:33.600] You know, you've got to have some mental acuity.
[27:33.600 --> 27:40.480] And, you know, that's where a lot of people just get, you know, tired is like, well, heck,
[27:40.480 --> 27:41.480] they really don't want it.
[27:41.480 --> 27:42.480] They don't want to be smart.
[27:42.480 --> 27:46.880] They don't want to study like, okay, you know, you don't want to be smart, then sit on the
[27:46.880 --> 27:51.240] curb and wait for people to give you food.
[27:51.240 --> 27:54.280] You know, integrity is really important.
[27:54.280 --> 28:01.240] And then finally, I talk about stop being part of the problem.
[28:01.240 --> 28:10.040] You know, people will talk about the Constitution, and then their actions are in direct opposition
[28:10.040 --> 28:19.520] to the things they say they want, you know, so if you are, you know, looking at the thing
[28:19.520 --> 28:25.680] that you want and you're getting further and further away, you're probably walking backwards.
[28:25.680 --> 28:34.560] And so, you know, I give several really good examples there, and then in chapter 10, I finally
[28:34.560 --> 28:42.120] start talking about how to solve some of these problems, you know, I take a while to describe
[28:42.120 --> 28:49.920] the problem and describe some of the qualities that you...
[28:49.920 --> 28:50.920] Are we going to break?
[28:50.920 --> 28:53.120] No, we're not going to break.
[28:53.120 --> 28:55.840] I think Randy's getting lost again.
[28:55.840 --> 28:56.840] Okay.
[28:56.840 --> 29:05.360] So, you know, the last couple of chapters, I've already painted a really strong picture
[29:05.360 --> 29:12.040] of like, you know, don't go there unless you have, you know, the knowledge, the courage,
[29:12.040 --> 29:18.040] and the will to make it happen, as Randy said a few moments ago.
[29:18.040 --> 29:21.640] You know, the bad guys are not going to let you have it just because you hold up a piece
[29:21.640 --> 29:26.200] of paper, you know, even if that piece of paper happens to be the Declaration of the
[29:26.200 --> 29:38.680] Defendant, so I go through the last couple chapters and I tell people what I have done,
[29:38.680 --> 29:46.320] and that's about all I can do is, you know, if you want to copycat off of the things that
[29:46.320 --> 29:52.480] I want, I have already done, well, then it's up to you, but you need to take full and complete
[29:52.480 --> 29:54.320] total responsibility for it.
[29:54.320 --> 29:55.320] Yep.
[29:55.320 --> 29:56.320] Hi folks, we're about to get a break.
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[31:13.120 --> 31:14.120] Brave New Books?
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[32:14.640 --> 32:23.640] Yeah, I got that one rent, and I'm going to solve that to the head of government then.
[32:23.640 --> 32:30.640] That's a huge thing.
[32:30.640 --> 32:42.200] Okay, folks, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stephen, Daddy Craig, Groove on Radio, and
[32:42.200 --> 32:47.680] a minor little issue, somebody screwed up and didn't make it back to the studio in time.
[32:47.680 --> 32:52.640] So I was a little late starting, and we had an archive, and I apologize for that.
[32:52.640 --> 32:57.880] This is the second time in five years that I was late for a show.
[32:57.880 --> 33:00.840] You got to be here to see it.
[33:00.840 --> 33:13.480] So I would like to start this show talking about, or at least continue this show.
[33:13.480 --> 33:25.000] A few months ago, in October, there was a ruling by the Washington State Supreme Court on MERS,
[33:25.000 --> 33:36.760] position as nominee for a lender, and the courts took a very long time to research this
[33:36.760 --> 33:43.440] decision, and they ruled that MERS had no power to foreclose, because in this case it
[33:43.440 --> 33:48.240] was a suit based on foreclosure, it's been going on in the courts a long time.
[33:48.240 --> 33:56.480] MERS essentially stopped foreclosing on properties in 2010.
[33:56.480 --> 34:03.840] In this case, it's been working its way through the courts for that amount of time, and the
[34:03.840 --> 34:12.760] courts just ruled against MERS saying that since MERS never held a beneficial interest
[34:12.760 --> 34:18.520] in the note that they could not foreclose.
[34:18.520 --> 34:26.000] Now at the time, I didn't think that was quite as earth-shattering a ruling as apparently
[34:26.000 --> 34:35.400] it has been, because it was strictly a Washington State ruling, and it didn't appear to apply
[34:35.400 --> 34:42.120] everywhere else, but apparently it has, or there's something in the ruling that has really
[34:42.120 --> 34:50.680] gotten everyone's attention, because I wanted to add to the local justice of the peace yesterday,
[34:50.680 --> 35:01.480] here in the town I live in, to look at the filings for eviction hearings, and they haven't
[35:01.480 --> 35:07.000] had any since October, none at all.
[35:07.000 --> 35:15.600] It appears so the banks just stopped, and I've had a number of people tell me that everything
[35:15.600 --> 35:16.600] has stopped.
[35:16.600 --> 35:24.120] Nobody, the bank had been calling them every day, and now they've stopped doing nothing.
[35:24.120 --> 35:31.280] So it looks like we may have had some, this ruling may have had a much bigger impact on
[35:31.280 --> 35:34.160] the banks than we had expected.
[35:34.160 --> 35:43.240] So for that part we're, it's interesting, it's great for us because of what we do, but
[35:43.240 --> 35:50.720] it's really interesting that a lot of things are going on, and one of the things I haven't
[35:50.720 --> 35:57.280] considered is, it's also the presidential election that may well have stopped things,
[35:57.280 --> 36:02.880] because things tend to always slow down before a presidential election.
[36:02.880 --> 36:08.240] I know when I had my own business, business would always slow down before the presidential
[36:08.240 --> 36:10.920] election and then pick up right after it.
[36:10.920 --> 36:18.200] It seemed it didn't matter who got elected, but people tend, business would slow down,
[36:18.200 --> 36:24.360] waiting to see which one it was, and whichever one got elected, it was like they would pretty
[36:24.360 --> 36:28.600] well decide what to do and just move ahead, business would grab back up, so that may be
[36:28.600 --> 36:31.080] a part of it.
[36:31.080 --> 36:39.920] But it's good to hear we're getting rulings in our favor now, and we do have the phones
[36:39.920 --> 36:40.920] turned on.
[36:40.920 --> 36:47.720] This is our Friday night, four hour info marathon.
[36:47.720 --> 37:00.840] It is 8.30 on November the 16th, we're starting a little late, and my bad, all my fault.
[37:00.840 --> 37:03.200] I messed it up.
[37:03.200 --> 37:08.920] So if you have any questions or comments, you'd like to have us answer the questions
[37:08.920 --> 37:18.280] or hear your comments, give us a call, we'd be glad to address those, but until we get
[37:18.280 --> 37:23.680] that, I need a subject to address in June, I always have content.
[37:23.680 --> 37:35.240] Oh, little storage day, I went down to the Justice of the Peace in Lake Worth, Texas,
[37:35.240 --> 37:46.600] it's a suburb of Forest, Jim Tarrant County, and asked to see the, all of the files for
[37:46.600 --> 37:50.600] eviction hearings.
[37:50.600 --> 37:56.280] And they were a little difficult, I had one of the clerks ask me why I wanted to see those,
[37:56.280 --> 37:59.920] and I told him, don't ask me questions like that.
[37:59.920 --> 38:06.280] They stopped asking me questions, and the custodian of the record can't.
[38:06.280 --> 38:15.280] What the statute says, 5-62 government code, the Texas Office of Government Act, says that
[38:15.280 --> 38:27.720] the custodian may make no inquiry of the requester other than to determine his name and the record
[38:27.720 --> 38:29.720] sought.
[38:29.720 --> 38:34.200] And violation of this act is a classic misdemeanor.
[38:34.200 --> 38:39.600] So asking me why I want these records is not one of those inquiries they're allowed to
[38:39.600 --> 38:40.600] make.
[38:40.600 --> 38:46.560] Well, when she asked me that, I kind of backed her up, and they didn't pursue, but they got
[38:46.560 --> 38:51.160] annoyed because I didn't do exactly what they said when they said how they said.
[38:51.160 --> 38:55.400] I wanted to see the records, they didn't want to show them to me, they finally brought
[38:55.400 --> 38:56.520] them out.
[38:56.520 --> 39:04.640] And then the Justice of the Peace herself came out and said that I was a security risk, and
[39:04.640 --> 39:10.560] I couldn't see these records that I'd have to go down to the courthouse in downtown
[39:10.560 --> 39:18.120] Worth, and go to the county clerk.
[39:18.120 --> 39:23.480] And I could look on the county clerk's computer and see these records.
[39:23.480 --> 39:28.160] And I said, no, not good enough, I want to see them here.
[39:28.160 --> 39:37.000] The JP refused to let me, she said, you can't look at my records here, and I already had
[39:37.000 --> 39:38.000] some.
[39:38.000 --> 39:41.880] So you're telling me I can't look at these records, I closed them up and gave them back
[39:41.880 --> 39:47.480] to her, and there was some bailiff standing there, said, Mr. Bailiff, I need you.
[39:47.480 --> 39:55.920] He came over, said I need you to arrest this judge, and it got kind of interesting there
[39:55.920 --> 39:58.000] for a while.
[39:58.000 --> 40:02.600] He didn't seem to want to arrest the judge.
[40:02.600 --> 40:08.840] And I guess I can understand why.
[40:08.840 --> 40:14.040] He didn't want to arrest the judge, and so I said, well, you know, he said, why would
[40:14.040 --> 40:15.040] I arrest the judge?
[40:15.040 --> 40:25.280] I said criminal violation 3903, penal code denying me in my right to a public court,
[40:25.280 --> 40:33.120] in addition of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure 1.23, and then the process denying
[40:33.120 --> 40:38.720] me full and free access to employment rights, class A, Mr. Mead on the 3903 penal code,
[40:38.720 --> 40:40.680] I need you to come out here and take my complaint.
[40:40.680 --> 40:50.840] So we went down, he came out and he took me down to the constable's office, and he said
[40:50.840 --> 40:58.640] that I need to talk to the constable, and the constable is like the sheriff.
[40:58.640 --> 41:00.960] He's an elected official.
[41:00.960 --> 41:01.960] So that would work.
[41:01.960 --> 41:09.240] I talked to the constable, and the constable refused to take a complaint.
[41:09.240 --> 41:16.880] He said that I would have to take my complaint to the prosecutor's attorney, and I told him,
[41:16.880 --> 41:18.440] no, no, no, no.
[41:18.440 --> 41:19.440] I make it.
[41:19.440 --> 41:21.680] And I asked him, are you a certified police officer?
[41:21.680 --> 41:22.680] He said yes, I am.
[41:22.680 --> 41:29.160] Then I want you to take my criminal complaint and verify my signature on the complaint in
[41:29.160 --> 41:34.760] accordance with your duty as certified police officer in Article 2.13, Texas Code of Criminal
[41:34.760 --> 41:35.760] Procedure.
[41:35.760 --> 41:36.760] But he refused.
[41:36.760 --> 41:39.640] I'm not going to take a complaint.
[41:39.640 --> 41:42.560] You'll have to take it to the district attorney.
[41:42.560 --> 41:47.840] So I left his office, went to the sheriff's department.
[41:47.840 --> 41:48.840] They were right across the street.
[41:48.840 --> 41:56.640] I had a little officer and asked for a sheriff's deputy to take my complaint against the J.P.
[41:56.640 --> 42:04.240] Well, I wound up with this lieutenant, and apparently he had come back in for something.
[42:04.240 --> 42:05.240] He was going home.
[42:05.240 --> 42:08.720] He was off duty.
[42:08.720 --> 42:12.160] And they told him I was there in Hawaii, and he came over and asked if he could help
[42:12.160 --> 42:13.160] me.
[42:13.160 --> 42:16.800] I said, yeah, I need you to go over there and arrest the J.P.
[42:16.800 --> 42:20.280] Well, he didn't want to arrest the J.P.
[42:20.280 --> 42:23.320] Fancy that.
[42:23.320 --> 42:27.840] So he said, I'm not going to arrest the justice piece.
[42:27.840 --> 42:28.840] I'm off duty.
[42:28.840 --> 42:31.560] I don't tell me that stuff.
[42:31.560 --> 42:34.320] I said, you guys are never off duty anymore.
[42:34.320 --> 42:40.880] You're on duty 24-7, well, yeah, I heard about that stuff, but I'm off duty, I'm not
[42:40.880 --> 42:41.880] going to arrest the judge.
[42:41.880 --> 42:45.480] Then get me someone who can.
[42:45.480 --> 42:50.280] And they insisted that I go to the district attorney.
[42:50.280 --> 42:56.560] So since they refused, and so I called the district attorney.
[42:56.560 --> 43:01.600] The district attorney said they don't take complaints against the judges.
[43:01.600 --> 43:06.600] I'd have to go to the state commission on judicial conduct.
[43:06.600 --> 43:10.440] And I shared them that I was not interested in filing a judicial conduct complaint at
[43:10.440 --> 43:12.440] this time.
[43:12.440 --> 43:18.840] I'll probably get around to that, but at this time, I want to file criminal accusations against
[43:18.840 --> 43:19.840] the judge.
[43:19.840 --> 43:26.840] Oh, you'll have to take that to a policing agency.
[43:26.840 --> 43:33.960] So here's my problem, the police say I have to go to the prosecutor, the prosecutor says
[43:33.960 --> 43:41.760] I have to go to the police, and nobody wants to do their job.
[43:41.760 --> 43:46.640] But there's more, we can, we're going to, we'll be able to handle that.
[43:46.640 --> 43:51.760] This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheel of Law Radio, our call in number
[43:51.760 --> 43:52.760] 512-646-1984.
[43:52.760 --> 43:53.760] We'll be right back.
[43:53.760 --> 44:06.120] The Oakland City bombing, top 10 reasons to question the official story.
[44:06.120 --> 44:09.880] Reason number two, why was the ATF AWOL?
[44:09.880 --> 44:12.600] Part of the.\ He's veryoglyphic, merciful, kind of, critical
[44:12.600 --> 44:13.600] when they go to the police.
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[44:14.720 --> 44:15.720] their office any more.
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[46:24.420 --> 46:52.620] Okay, we are back. Randy Calderba, Steve Zeddy Craig, rule of law radio. And I don't see
[46:52.620 --> 46:59.140] anything going out through my mixer. I suppose my sound is going out. My mixer should be
[46:59.140 --> 47:05.980] running bars across the mixer, and I'm not seeing it. So I assume that I'm going out.
[47:05.980 --> 47:12.100] Chris, you're listening. If you're listening, let me know if I am actually going out on
[47:12.100 --> 47:24.380] there. Okay, as I was saying when we went out, okay, we were, I talked to the prosecutor
[47:24.380 --> 47:30.340] and the prosecutor didn't want to take the complaint, and they sent me to the civil
[47:30.340 --> 47:40.660] division. And whoever this receptionist was, their name was Dalinda, she talked to the
[47:40.660 --> 47:49.700] head of the civil division, and the head of the division was named Ann Diamond. Well,
[47:49.700 --> 48:00.580] 15 years ago, 10 or 15 years ago when I went after Tarrant County once before, Ann Diamond
[48:00.580 --> 48:11.180] was there at the time. This woman's been there about 30 years. So I told her to tell Ann
[48:11.180 --> 48:14.780] Diamond that it's Randy Kelton. She'll be glad to hear from me. She said I told her
[48:14.780 --> 48:22.420] it was Randy Kelton. She was not glad to hear from you. But this will work out well. This
[48:22.420 --> 48:40.340] year, we intend to push for legislation. I'm pushing for legislation that would direct
[48:40.340 --> 48:53.460] the grand jury to sit at least one time a month to hear complaints by private citizens, whatever
[48:53.460 --> 48:58.460] kind of complaints they are. Now, they used to do that in Fort Worth when I first moved
[48:58.460 --> 49:04.900] here back in the mid-70s. But nobody ever showed up so they quit doing it. I'm going
[49:04.900 --> 49:10.820] to ask for legislation to order them to do that. And by making the point that we don't
[49:10.820 --> 49:17.260] care if anybody shows up or not, it's not the point that somebody shows up and files
[49:17.260 --> 49:28.140] criminal charges against a public official. It's that they can so that a public official
[49:28.140 --> 49:34.820] who has it in their mind to do something like what this judge just did wouldn't let me
[49:34.820 --> 49:41.340] see her records in state that I have to go look at the records with the county clerk.
[49:41.340 --> 49:47.060] And then I found out that the county clerk used to make records available online but
[49:47.060 --> 49:56.980] stopped doing it two years earlier. Had this magistrate had to have considered that I would
[49:56.980 --> 50:06.460] go before a grand jury about her behavior, she would have been far more careful. Well,
[50:06.460 --> 50:15.500] I suspect she never expected me to ask the base for a rest of year. They probably hadn't
[50:15.500 --> 50:26.540] been there before. But I do have a caller and this caller is going to talk about bargreaves.net.
[50:26.540 --> 50:32.900] Those of you who have been listening for a long time have heard me talk about bargreaves.net
[50:32.900 --> 50:44.660] for quite a while. I've had a rudimentary site up but I've had trouble finding a programmer
[50:44.660 --> 50:52.420] to dress it up for me and get things working right. Well, I finally got one. Bargreaves.net
[50:52.420 --> 50:58.420] is up and working the way it's supposed to be. There are a couple of little tweaks we
[50:58.420 --> 51:06.660] will add to it but it is actually working. And Chris, you used it to, was it today that
[51:06.660 --> 51:15.300] you used it? Yes, I used it today. So you kind of give us your experience, how it worked
[51:15.300 --> 51:26.780] for you? It was actually quite an easy experience compared to what you have up on the bargreaves.net
[51:26.780 --> 51:39.300] website right now. Oh man, you hurt my feelings. I wrote the one on bargreaves. I have a different
[51:39.300 --> 51:50.300] link and I'm glad you mentioned that because I had to send Chris a link to the prototype.
[51:50.300 --> 52:00.300] I will make this link available on Jurisprudence and I'll talk to David to see if he'll make
[52:00.300 --> 52:13.260] the link available on Root of Law or Logos Radio. This is written, I asked the programmer
[52:13.260 --> 52:24.140] to write it so that it would adapt to any cascading style sheet from anyone else's site.
[52:24.140 --> 52:34.860] What we want to do with it is make it available to every legal reform site in the country
[52:34.860 --> 52:44.500] as a back page to their front page. So it's being designed so that a legal reform site
[52:44.500 --> 52:53.780] can take this software and just plug it into their site. And we go to their site and it
[52:53.780 --> 53:02.260] will look like you're actually working off of their site. But when it goes to the link,
[53:02.260 --> 53:07.940] the link will actually go to our site which is going to be on a server either in the Netherlands
[53:07.940 --> 53:20.060] or Iceland or one of these offshore servers that the U.S. can't manipulate. Right now
[53:20.060 --> 53:25.740] if you have a site the U.S. doesn't like and I keep forgetting the name of the company,
[53:25.740 --> 53:34.860] there's one company that handles.com,.net,.info, all the really common domain names
[53:34.860 --> 53:41.980] or extensions, this one company handles those. And if the government goes to them and tells
[53:41.980 --> 53:48.380] them to shut the site down, what they will do is take the domain name. Domain name is
[53:48.380 --> 53:56.660] a pointer to a URL and then we direct the domain name to something that says that this
[53:56.660 --> 54:04.260] site has been blocked or something of that nature. What they can't do is interfere with
[54:04.260 --> 54:12.820] the URL itself and the URL is four sets of three numbers separated by dots. The URL will
[54:12.820 --> 54:17.540] take you to the exact same place that the domain name will. So if you know what the
[54:17.540 --> 54:25.580] URL is, you can get there anyway. And in order to keep them from shutting us down because
[54:25.580 --> 54:38.900] you're going to want to, Angie's List. Angie's List is a site you can go to to evaluate professionals.
[54:38.900 --> 54:47.660] You can evaluate most any professional except lawyers. Lawyers skip suit them for saying
[54:47.660 --> 54:56.780] bad stuff about them. So they shut that part down. Lawyers and judges have went to a lot
[54:56.780 --> 55:05.580] of trouble to hide their shuster shenanigans. Bargreavance.net is designed to provide a
[55:05.580 --> 55:18.220] little sunshine. When you go on to a Bargreavance.net and use the site to produce a Bargreavance,
[55:18.220 --> 55:25.100] it will, you just fill in the questions, the answers to the questionnaire and it will spit
[55:25.100 --> 55:32.180] you out of Bargreavance. What it will also do is save a copy of that grievance on our
[55:32.180 --> 55:41.820] website and it will save it in such a way so that you can search the website based on
[55:41.820 --> 55:50.820] that person's name. So if you file against a particular lawyer, you'll be able to search
[55:50.820 --> 56:00.300] the website for any grievances already filed against this lawyer. Now, if you're in Idaho
[56:00.300 --> 56:06.500] and you file a Bargreavance, once you file that Bargreavance, if you reveal the existence
[56:06.500 --> 56:14.940] of the Bargreavance, that's a felony. And in most states, once you reveal the, once
[56:14.940 --> 56:22.700] you file the grievance, then the grievance becomes secret and except California. California
[56:22.700 --> 56:32.500] has made all of theirs public. Well, if you're in Idaho and you go on our website and you
[56:32.500 --> 56:40.540] use the site to create the Bargreavance, well, when it creates the Bargreavance and downloads
[56:40.540 --> 56:50.860] you a copy, why? That thing hasn't been filed yet. So since it hasn't been filed yet, there
[56:50.860 --> 57:03.100] is no requirement for secrecy. And in fact, most of the states, the way the law reads
[57:03.100 --> 57:10.100] is the secrecy doesn't actually apply to the person who makes the filing. And I said it
[57:10.100 --> 57:16.580] that way because I haven't actually read the Idaho Statute. I've read several of them
[57:16.580 --> 57:25.020] and every one of them forbade the bar from releasing the grievance, but not the person
[57:25.020 --> 57:30.980] who filed it because that would go to a First Amendment challenge. So they've written it
[57:30.980 --> 57:38.460] so it sounds like you're forbidden to, but you're actually not. But in either case, that
[57:38.460 --> 57:46.380] requirement for secrecy does not extend to me. It does not extend to the site that created
[57:46.380 --> 57:57.500] the document. Besides the site's not a human being anyway, so you can't arrest a computer.
[57:57.500 --> 58:05.300] And even if you could, when the computer gets it, it was open. It was not secret when they
[58:05.300 --> 58:13.100] got it. So that requirement for secrecy does not extend to anyone beyond the person who
[58:13.100 --> 58:19.460] actually filed it. So the strategy is to make these available where everybody can look at
[58:19.460 --> 58:25.780] them. But as you might, well, we'll figure these lawyers are not going to be happy to
[58:25.780 --> 58:31.780] kind of wash away to get at us. We're trying to set us, set it up so that we're in arms
[58:31.780 --> 58:36.900] linked from them and they can't reach us. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Ada
[58:36.900 --> 58:45.300] Craig, Rula Vela Radio. Our call lines are open, 512-646-1984. We're going to the top
[58:45.300 --> 58:50.300] of the hour break. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:30.140 --> 01:03:35.500] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelkman, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, Louie Law Radio, and we were
[01:03:35.500 --> 01:03:44.980] talking about arbrevances when we went out. And the site that I have up now, and the reason
[01:03:44.980 --> 01:03:50.260] I have to give the link to it, and what I may just do is redirect or grievance.net to
[01:03:50.260 --> 01:04:00.700] that link. It's a beta site. We're beta testing the program, and I could go through that thing
[01:04:00.700 --> 01:04:11.660] and go over 100 times, and I would miss the same issue every single time. And it's not
[01:04:11.660 --> 01:04:18.300] filtered. I know what everything is. I know what you're supposed to do at every single
[01:04:18.300 --> 01:04:24.140] point in it. So I don't know when I create a question in the mind of the user, and I
[01:04:24.140 --> 01:04:35.140] would like anyone out there who wants to do a bar grievance to go in and use this thing
[01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:43.700] and email me and tell me what your experience of it is. I don't care how negative it is.
[01:04:43.700 --> 01:04:51.380] Probably more negative is better. Because it's hard for me, and it's hard for the programmer
[01:04:51.380 --> 01:05:00.140] to know what issues you run into. We have a number of minor issues we know about. I
[01:05:00.140 --> 01:05:08.660] would end with going through it today, and if you hit the Backspace key, if you click
[01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:12.940] an answer and you decide that's not the right answer you want to give, and you want to back
[01:05:12.940 --> 01:05:21.340] up, when I backed up, it took me back to the login page. So there's a AJAX tool we can
[01:05:21.340 --> 01:05:27.740] use to do a partial page refresh. It's a little complex how that works, but it'll
[01:05:27.740 --> 01:05:34.460] count. Each time you move from one page to the next, it will do a refresh and save all
[01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:40.900] the information it's gathered so far to the database. And then when you back up, we'll
[01:05:40.900 --> 01:05:51.220] set it so that it'll repopulate from the database. And when you first log in, if you've already
[01:05:51.220 --> 01:05:58.940] signed up for the site and put in your information, one of the purposes of doing that is, so the
[01:05:58.940 --> 01:06:04.500] site remembers you. So when you go to the first page where it asks you for your name,
[01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:13.620] address, phone number, all those details that have to be on the grievance, it will auto-populate
[01:06:13.620 --> 01:06:18.860] that from the database you won't have to type it in again. Chris, you're mentioning on
[01:06:18.860 --> 01:06:26.940] the break a couple of other things. This is that guy who had that motorcycle.
[01:06:26.940 --> 01:06:37.740] Chris, when you're on there filling out the complaint itself, it times that. And when
[01:06:37.740 --> 01:06:45.540] you log back in, it does not save your progress. And you have to go back in and fill it all
[01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:53.260] back out again. Okay, yeah, that's one of the things that
[01:06:53.260 --> 01:07:01.340] this partial page refresh will fix. And there's a little Ajax tool you can use to get it to
[01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:08.060] every time you move from one page to the next, it'll save everything behind you and then
[01:07:08.060 --> 01:07:13.620] repopulate everything. I was using it today and I backed up a page and of course everything
[01:07:13.620 --> 01:07:22.260] was gone. And there are other annoying things that happen. So like that one, if you're using
[01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:29.500] this thing, was there anything else, Chris, that you noticed that there's any places in
[01:07:29.500 --> 01:07:35.780] there where the site didn't give you good, clear direction?
[01:07:35.780 --> 01:07:46.860] No, it was much more concise as to the direction you were supposed to be going. With this one,
[01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:54.060] I did just see another issue. I was sitting here looking at it when you're on here looking
[01:07:54.060 --> 01:08:03.380] at the complaint style by other people. When you download the app to try and do it, it does
[01:08:03.380 --> 01:08:11.020] a good job of picking out the names, but the complaint's not there.
[01:08:11.020 --> 01:08:20.700] Oh, okay. Good. This is exactly the kind of things that we want to see because we're
[01:08:20.700 --> 01:08:28.060] so busy doing all the whiz bang, oh boy, Jim Dandy cool stuff that we tend to miss a lot
[01:08:28.060 --> 01:08:36.820] of these really minor details. So you can see the person's name that was complained
[01:08:36.820 --> 01:08:42.220] of, but you can't pull the complaint itself up.
[01:08:42.220 --> 01:08:50.580] On the website, the complaint I did today is there, but when you go up here, it says
[01:08:50.580 --> 01:08:58.700] you can download it here, and it does have, you know, my address is all blocked out, but
[01:08:58.700 --> 01:09:04.980] when you clicked on the download it, you download it to a PDF. It was there when I did it originally,
[01:09:04.980 --> 01:09:07.260] but when I do it now, it's not there.
[01:09:07.260 --> 01:09:13.940] Okay. Okay. When I program, I get that all the time. I have everything working and I
[01:09:13.940 --> 01:09:21.660] make a minor change, and it changes things I didn't expect. So I wind up with little
[01:09:21.660 --> 01:09:25.580] things in the background. I've had Barbara herself for a while and I hired this guy in
[01:09:25.580 --> 01:09:36.620] India to work on it, and I don't know how he did it, but he went inside and changed
[01:09:36.620 --> 01:09:45.220] the links inside the system. So most of the links didn't work. When you go from one page
[01:09:45.220 --> 01:09:52.060] to the next, it would, it was trying to go to a place where the page didn't exist, and
[01:09:52.060 --> 01:09:59.700] I'd just get a four or a timeout. So I went in and fixed all of that and got the site
[01:09:59.700 --> 01:10:05.300] back up and working, but it's real easy to do that. It's real easy to make a change in
[01:10:05.300 --> 01:10:13.580] one place and have it cause secondary underlying changes that you don't notice, and because
[01:10:13.580 --> 01:10:20.260] you can't check for everything it does every time you make a change. And it has the, this
[01:10:20.260 --> 01:10:26.980] programming has a tendency to, to change things you didn't expect. So anytime you run across
[01:10:26.980 --> 01:10:34.580] these, I would greatly appreciate if you'd start using the site and giving me good,
[01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:42.180] constructive feedback so that I can start, so we can, you know, tweak this thing out.
[01:10:42.180 --> 01:10:47.980] I want to start putting it on third party sites and I want to make sure it's working
[01:10:47.980 --> 01:10:59.340] well when we do. This is going to make the lawyers absolutely crazy. There is another
[01:10:59.340 --> 01:11:10.020] portion to the site that we don't have implemented yet, and that will be a blog for a place to
[01:11:10.020 --> 01:11:20.260] post comments on each person, each, the complaint of, or each complaint itself. We, we're going
[01:11:20.260 --> 01:11:31.580] to have a place where the lawyer can log into the site and post his side of, of the issue.
[01:11:31.580 --> 01:11:40.900] This is not, we don't want this just as a way to beat up lawyers. We want this as a
[01:11:40.900 --> 01:11:47.900] check and balance to abusive behaviors. And in the process of creating a check and balance
[01:11:47.900 --> 01:11:57.780] to abusive behaviors, we don't want this to become tools just for abuse of, of, of lawyers.
[01:11:57.780 --> 01:12:07.700] So in all fairness, we need to give them opportunity to tell their side. But when I've seen lawyers,
[01:12:07.700 --> 01:12:15.260] lawyers are real good at examining and cross examining a witness. They really suck at being
[01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:21.940] witnesses for themselves. So they're not going to be able to do the, they're going to have
[01:12:21.940 --> 01:12:27.020] a problem. They're going to be handicapped because they don't have experience of defending
[01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:35.700] themselves. They're generally defending a client or examining an opposition. And this
[01:12:35.700 --> 01:12:40.820] seems to, every time I've dealt in this area, it always seems to put the lawyer in a position
[01:12:40.820 --> 01:12:50.380] he absolutely does not know how to deal with. And it is great fun watching them squirm.
[01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:59.420] So while we're going to put up this comment section for the lawyers to put in their, argue
[01:12:59.420 --> 01:13:06.020] their position, odds are for the most part, they're going to make it worse for themselves
[01:13:06.020 --> 01:13:14.820] than if they just kept their mouth shut. And I'm sure most people have heard my dissertation
[01:13:14.820 --> 01:13:23.940] on the effect of a bar grievance. This is what I tell people. And this is, lawyers told
[01:13:23.940 --> 01:13:31.660] me this and we've had, after I was told this and started using it, we've had a number of
[01:13:31.660 --> 01:13:41.860] indications that this is true around the country based on what lawyers have done. I had a bankruptcy
[01:13:41.860 --> 01:13:49.380] attorney about 10 years ago here and he knew what I did. Actually, this bankruptcy attorney
[01:13:49.380 --> 01:13:57.820] used to be the county attorney for Wise County, Texas. He was an assistant county attorney.
[01:13:57.820 --> 01:14:06.180] He wasn't the elected. And I went to him one day and I was, at the time I was working
[01:14:06.180 --> 01:14:12.300] over the county I lived in and I was giving him a pretty hard time. And I went to him
[01:14:12.300 --> 01:14:17.500] and he's arguing against me and I'm filing charges against his boss and just making a
[01:14:17.500 --> 01:14:26.300] nuisance of myself. And at one point he stopped, he said, one moment, Mr. Kelkin, he got up,
[01:14:26.300 --> 01:14:35.820] he walked around his desk, went over and closed the door, came back, sat down and said, if
[01:14:35.820 --> 01:14:48.860] you repeat this, I will deny it, but Mr. Kelkin, don't stop. You may be the only one who can
[01:14:48.860 --> 01:14:58.380] fix this. I can't from my position. The police can't from their position, but you can, don't
[01:14:58.380 --> 01:15:05.740] stop. He got up out of his chair, walked around, opened the door, went back to arguing with
[01:15:05.740 --> 01:15:16.340] me vehemently against my position. I thought that was absolutely remarkable. So then years
[01:15:16.340 --> 01:15:24.060] later he got out of the prosecutor's office and he's had his own practice and he did a
[01:15:24.060 --> 01:15:30.780] bankruptcy for me and he mentioned this bar grievance issue. Oh, Mr. Kelkin, you really
[01:15:30.780 --> 01:15:34.860] need to be careful with those. And he told a story about a friend of his got out of law
[01:15:34.860 --> 01:15:44.020] school. If you didn't graduate in the top two or three percent of your graduating class,
[01:15:44.020 --> 01:15:49.420] the good chance no law firm is going to pick you up. So you've got to start your own business.
[01:15:49.420 --> 01:15:57.820] You have this huge student loan to pay off. And lawyers can't go out and promote their
[01:15:57.820 --> 01:16:04.100] business directly. You see these TV shows where a guy hands someone a card and says,
[01:16:04.100 --> 01:16:08.860] it was been an accident or something or it was in an ambulance and said, here I'm a lawyer,
[01:16:08.860 --> 01:16:14.460] I can represent you on this issue. That's an illustration. That's in Texas. That's
[01:16:14.460 --> 01:16:23.500] a felony. It's baritry and no licensed professional can promote their business directly. They're
[01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:28.380] expected to get their business by word of mouth. So it's hard for a lawyer to get started.
[01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:32.780] So most of them become go down and get put on the attorney wheel so they get appointed
[01:16:32.780 --> 01:16:39.340] as court appointed counsel for people in criminal cases. And I'll explain some of that when
[01:16:39.340 --> 01:16:42.780] I get back on the other side. This is Ray Beckelton, Deborah Stevens, Ada Craig,
[01:16:42.780 --> 01:16:52.300] Louis LaRadeo, our call in number 512-646-1984. Give us a call. Ask us a hard question. I'm
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[01:19:23.620 --> 01:19:33.620] Lou LaRidio, and we're talking about bar grievances and how they affect lawyers. Well, what this
[01:19:33.620 --> 01:19:41.620] lawyer told me was, is this friend of his got out of law school, and he didn't get the offer
[01:19:41.620 --> 01:19:47.620] from any law firm, so he went to the court and got himself put on the attorney's wheel.
[01:19:47.620 --> 01:19:53.620] And that's just a list where they just go down the list. When somebody needs court appointing
[01:19:53.620 --> 01:19:58.620] counsel, they just walk right down the list. They call it a wheel, but it's actually just
[01:19:58.620 --> 01:20:05.620] a list. And it's important you understand that it's not really a wheel. It's not like
[01:20:05.620 --> 01:20:15.620] they have this wheel that turns and actually spits out the name of the next attorney. It's
[01:20:15.620 --> 01:20:22.620] a list, and the judge goes down the list and he just checks off the next attorney. Unless
[01:20:22.620 --> 01:20:29.620] he's P.O. to that attorney, he just skips over him. And that's important to understand
[01:20:29.620 --> 01:20:34.620] why lawyers won't fight for your rights. But anyway, he gets appointed to represent this
[01:20:34.620 --> 01:20:42.620] guy, but I disappeared. Eleven months later, he went to the court and with a motion to be
[01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:47.620] removed from the case, he said, Your Honor, I can't find the client. He disappeared. So
[01:20:47.620 --> 01:20:54.620] the judge removed him from the case. Next month, the guy showed up, and he was not happy
[01:20:54.620 --> 01:21:02.620] with his attorney for dumping him like a hot rock. So he fought a barbeque against him.
[01:21:02.620 --> 01:21:09.620] His insurance carrier canceled his malpractice insurance immediately. Now the guy's in a
[01:21:09.620 --> 01:21:16.620] position to where he can't practice on his own, or he runs the risk of being sued and
[01:21:16.620 --> 01:21:25.620] having to pay for it out of his own pocket. And this is what the lawyer said. If you get
[01:21:25.620 --> 01:21:30.620] a bar grievance and it's your first year of practice, they will cancel your malpractice
[01:21:30.620 --> 01:21:38.620] insurance immediately. Two bar grievances, any one year of practice, they will cancel.
[01:21:38.620 --> 01:21:44.620] Three, they'll cancel your law forms about practice insurance. I apologize about that
[01:21:44.620 --> 01:21:56.620] train. This seems to be a noisy night for some reason. I can't complain too loud about
[01:21:56.620 --> 01:22:04.620] these trains. It's important people understand how much effect and power they have, and the
[01:22:04.620 --> 01:22:10.620] most time we don't realize it. When I first moved out here, we had a terrible problem
[01:22:10.620 --> 01:22:16.620] with these rock truck drivers driving like crazy people, and we used to lose 40 or 50
[01:22:16.620 --> 01:22:22.620] people a year on this one stretch of highway. At one intersection just west of town, there
[01:22:22.620 --> 01:22:28.620] were 24 people a year killed there. I went to the president of the Katie Railroad at
[01:22:28.620 --> 01:22:35.620] the time, and got really, really ugly with him, wanted to know why we were getting all
[01:22:35.620 --> 01:22:40.620] these people killed on these highways from these rock trucks, and you got this railroad
[01:22:40.620 --> 01:22:46.620] out there, and you're not using it. The tracks were in such bad shape that the train couldn't
[01:22:46.620 --> 01:22:52.620] travel over them at more than 10 miles an hour. And after I chewed out Gassler, president
[01:22:52.620 --> 01:22:58.620] of the Katie, for the next several months you would see these work crews, and they had
[01:22:58.620 --> 01:23:06.620] this special equipment to go test the rails. And then after about a year, the rock truck
[01:23:06.620 --> 01:23:15.620] drivers cut out a section of rail with a torch to derail the train, because the railroad
[01:23:15.620 --> 01:23:20.620] was hauling all the rock into the Dallas-Fort Worth area and taking away the jobs of the
[01:23:20.620 --> 01:23:29.620] drivers. We have almost no problem with them out here now. So while I hear that train whistle
[01:23:29.620 --> 01:23:36.620] blowing is kind of annoying, I pulled into town and I have to stop and wait for the train.
[01:23:36.620 --> 01:23:43.620] Never had to do that before. I get to look at it and smile and wonder how many people
[01:23:43.620 --> 01:23:52.620] are not dead, because I did something nobody knows about. When you read in the Bible, when
[01:23:52.620 --> 01:23:59.620] they'll do us thy arms and let not thy right hand know what thy left hand doeth, there
[01:23:59.620 --> 01:24:08.620] is something to be said about that. It is a great feeling, and you and I can have very
[01:24:08.620 --> 01:24:17.620] powerful influence. And for the most part, if we're just ordinary citizens, the influence
[01:24:17.620 --> 01:24:25.620] we have will never come back to us and say, hey, look at all the influence you had. And
[01:24:25.620 --> 01:24:31.620] that's okay. There's something intuitively satisfying about knowing that you did the
[01:24:31.620 --> 01:24:38.620] right thing for the right reasons. And even if nobody else knows, you do. Now everybody
[01:24:38.620 --> 01:24:45.620] knows, so now I have no reward of my Father which is in heaven. Darn it, I ruined it all.
[01:24:45.620 --> 01:24:56.620] But anyway, back to bar grievances. The train is gone. If you file a bar grievance against
[01:24:56.620 --> 01:25:07.620] a lawyer, in every state that I've looked at, the state bar association will get that
[01:25:07.620 --> 01:25:16.620] bar grievance and throw it in the trash. And they'll send you this very pleasant computer
[01:25:16.620 --> 01:25:23.620] generated letter that says, we examine into your accusations and find it does not rise
[01:25:23.620 --> 01:25:33.620] to the level of misconduct. I sent a bar grievance to the state bar with 38 criminal
[01:25:33.620 --> 01:25:42.620] accusations attached. I got that form letter. And I was just pleased as punch to get the
[01:25:42.620 --> 01:25:51.620] form letter because I understand something. And there's something very intuitively satisfying
[01:25:51.620 --> 01:26:00.620] about this part. I was pleased with it because I knew when I filed it that the state bar
[01:26:00.620 --> 01:26:09.620] would send me that letter. I also knew that the lawyer's insurance carrier knew the same
[01:26:09.620 --> 01:26:19.620] thing. So the insurance carrier can't determine his level of risk by valid bar grievances.
[01:26:19.620 --> 01:26:25.620] Heck, they throw them all in the trash. So how's the insurance carrier to determine his
[01:26:25.620 --> 01:26:37.620] level of risk by the numbers? If I file a grievance against a lawyer and accuse him of parting
[01:26:37.620 --> 01:26:45.620] his hair on the left, then therefore he should be disbarred. They'll send me that form letter
[01:26:45.620 --> 01:26:49.620] that says, we examine into your accusation and find it does not rise to the level of
[01:26:49.620 --> 01:27:01.620] misconduct. If I send in a grievance accusing the lawyer of violating every standard of
[01:27:01.620 --> 01:27:08.620] the American Bar Association's model standards, they'll send me that same letter. They created
[01:27:08.620 --> 01:27:19.620] this problem for themselves. Their insurance will double no matter what the bar grievances.
[01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:25.620] And that's what this lawyer was complaining about. He said, that is patently unfair.
[01:27:25.620 --> 01:27:32.620] And I said, oh, wow, life is tough. It's hard out there for you poor, mistreated lawyers
[01:27:32.620 --> 01:27:43.620] I feel for you. I just can't quite reach you. So bar grievances are a really, really big
[01:27:43.620 --> 01:27:50.620] deal. If you file a bar grievance against your lawyer, he's not gonna say a word about
[01:27:50.620 --> 01:28:01.620] it. He better not say a word about it. Because if he does, then he gets another bar grievance
[01:28:01.620 --> 01:28:09.620] because all of the state bars forbid lawyers who are grieved from raising the issue with
[01:28:09.620 --> 01:28:16.620] the person who filed the grievance. Because the lawyer stands in a position of public
[01:28:16.620 --> 01:28:24.620] trust as a, at least quasi public official. They are considered officers of the court.
[01:28:24.620 --> 01:28:30.620] And for them to go to the person that grieves them would be to take unfair advantage of
[01:28:30.620 --> 01:28:38.620] their position. So they are forbidden to. So if you file a bar grievance against the lawyer,
[01:28:38.620 --> 01:28:44.620] it's like you both go into court. And each of you get behind your little table and you're
[01:28:44.620 --> 01:28:48.620] waiting for the judge to come in. And while you're waiting, you walk over to the other,
[01:28:48.620 --> 01:28:55.620] to the lawyer's table and you kick him right square in his behind. And he has to stand
[01:28:55.620 --> 01:29:01.620] there and act like he didn't do it. Because one word about it, and he gives the grievance
[01:29:01.620 --> 01:29:11.620] for that. And it only takes two to get his malpractice insurance revoked. And one of the
[01:29:11.620 --> 01:29:26.620] other problems with it is, is if a, I forgot why I said that. Okay, it gets his insurance
[01:29:26.620 --> 01:29:32.620] revoked. Oh, the other problem with it is, it can be construed as a tamper with a witness
[01:29:32.620 --> 01:29:38.620] of obstruction of justice. So when you start filing complaints against them, that puts
[01:29:38.620 --> 01:29:45.620] them in really, really deep water. Okay, we're about to go to break. We do have a caller.
[01:29:45.620 --> 01:29:51.620] Another caller calling in. We'll pick him up on the other side. This is Randy Kelton,
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[01:32:21.620 --> 01:32:32.620] Okay, we are back. Randy Count and David Steen, Sadie Craig and Rule of Law Radio. This is
[01:32:32.620 --> 01:32:38.620] our Friday night info marathon and I again apologize for being late. That's the second
[01:32:38.620 --> 01:32:45.620] time in five years I've been late for a show. I try not to do that but it was my bad this
[01:32:45.620 --> 01:32:50.620] time. So we probably won't get me too many callers. Most people thought we had an archive
[01:32:50.620 --> 01:32:59.620] so we probably lost a lot of listeners. But we were talking about bar grievances. Bar
[01:32:59.620 --> 01:33:09.620] grievances are absolutely the terror of lawyers. One bar grievance, even if they don't cancel,
[01:33:09.620 --> 01:33:16.620] they'll double your malpractice insurance. I had a friend, Russell Mortland, he was
[01:33:16.620 --> 01:33:24.620] going through a bankruptcy and halfway through the bankruptcy, the bank on the other side
[01:33:24.620 --> 01:33:32.620] who was trying to take his property, the lawyer for that bank quit and they hired another
[01:33:32.620 --> 01:33:38.620] law firm. At the end of the bankruptcy, the first lawyer came in and complained to the
[01:33:38.620 --> 01:33:45.620] court that Mr. Mortland filed three bar grievances against me and the next year our law firm
[01:33:45.620 --> 01:33:52.620] almost couldn't get malpractice insurance and when we did it nearly doubled. So he told
[01:33:52.620 --> 01:34:00.620] us to the court, I said Russell, did you file a grievance against him for that? He was
[01:34:00.620 --> 01:34:12.620] forbidden to mention it. So bar grievances, while the lawyers have a lot of political
[01:34:12.620 --> 01:34:19.620] influence because the judges and the lawyers are all part of the same fraternity and they
[01:34:19.620 --> 01:34:26.620] all work together all the time. We as pro-says have certain powers and abilities that the
[01:34:26.620 --> 01:34:35.620] lawyers don't have. So we can take them on in a way that they can't defend against.
[01:34:35.620 --> 01:34:47.620] In doing that, in knowing that, lawyers will do everything they can to hide this from us
[01:34:47.620 --> 01:34:59.620] and when we put this side up and this issue is no longer hidden, what the lawyers actually
[01:34:59.620 --> 01:35:04.620] do, they don't want you to know about. If you get a lawyer, he's going to feed you a
[01:35:04.620 --> 01:35:11.620] lot of song and dance and sell you down your pants. He knows full well it is song and dance
[01:35:11.620 --> 01:35:18.620] and sell you down your pants because he already knows what he's going to do and it doesn't
[01:35:18.620 --> 01:35:28.620] necessarily have anything to do with adjudicating your rights. I doubt that there's any lawyer
[01:35:28.620 --> 01:35:37.620] out there who spent six years, six to eight years in college to get his law degree so that
[01:35:37.620 --> 01:35:48.620] he could spend the rest of his professional career kissing arrogant judges behinds. But
[01:35:48.620 --> 01:35:57.620] in the real world I live in, that's how it works for lawyers. If you hire a lawyer and
[01:35:57.620 --> 01:36:05.620] he comes into court and vigorously adjudicates your case, if it annoys the judge, the judge
[01:36:05.620 --> 01:36:13.620] can sanction him, the judge can get his card removed, the judge can pretty well do whatever
[01:36:13.620 --> 01:36:21.620] he wants to that lawyer and there's not anything the lawyer can do about it. So do you really
[01:36:21.620 --> 01:36:28.620] think that your lawyer is going to go into court and vigorously adjudicate your case?
[01:36:28.620 --> 01:36:38.620] If he has any reason to believe it may annoy the judge or annoy some powerful law firm,
[01:36:38.620 --> 01:36:48.620] not going to happen, not in the world you and I live in unless you can give the lawyer
[01:36:48.620 --> 01:36:58.620] plausible deniability. The last case I had in court, the DPS had charged me with criminal
[01:36:58.620 --> 01:37:04.620] trespass. I went to the Secretary of State's office to ask for an app of steel and they
[01:37:04.620 --> 01:37:08.620] wouldn't give me one because they didn't like the document I wanted the app of steel on
[01:37:08.620 --> 01:37:17.620] so I called 911 and got the DPS out there and they wound up knocking out one of my, breaking
[01:37:17.620 --> 01:37:24.620] one of my teeth and throwing me in jail and he charged me with criminal trespass to cover
[01:37:24.620 --> 01:37:34.620] up what they had done. Well, I wouldn't hire a lawyer so the judge appointed one for me
[01:37:34.620 --> 01:37:44.620] and he vigorously adjudicated my case because I made it clear to him, you failed to vigorously
[01:37:44.620 --> 01:37:51.620] adjudicate even one of my due process rights and I will grieve you for every one of them.
[01:37:51.620 --> 01:38:01.620] So he's a new lawyer and he's afraid that I'm going to end his ability to practice as
[01:38:01.620 --> 01:38:06.620] a lawyer. There are things he can do as a lawyer that doesn't involve him being in court
[01:38:06.620 --> 01:38:12.620] but I can eliminate his ability to be able to practice in court just by following one
[01:38:12.620 --> 01:38:18.620] bar grievance against him. So he was terrified that I was going to file a bar grievance against
[01:38:18.620 --> 01:38:24.620] him. He went to the judge and told him, you know, I got a jerk for a client and I was
[01:38:24.620 --> 01:38:31.620] in court and demonstrated to the judge that he had a jerk for a client because the lawyer
[01:38:31.620 --> 01:38:37.620] came to me and told me that the prosecutor told him that she knew who I was and if I
[01:38:37.620 --> 01:38:42.620] started filing criminal charges, she would charge me with tampering with government
[01:38:42.620 --> 01:38:48.620] document and were about 15 feet from the judge and the prosecutor. The prosecutor
[01:38:48.620 --> 01:38:54.620] standing up by the bench talking to the judge and the lawyer was there and he came out to
[01:38:54.620 --> 01:38:59.620] talk to me and told me this. I said, she said that, she said, yes, she did. So I pulled
[01:38:59.620 --> 01:39:04.620] out about 30 criminal complaints out of my case. I said, here, I got about 30 of them.
[01:39:04.620 --> 01:39:09.620] Get over here. I need to verify these criminal affidavits in accordance with her duty under
[01:39:09.620 --> 01:39:17.620] Article 2.06 Code of Criminal Procedure and I pointed at the prosecutor. Yeah, come here.
[01:39:17.620 --> 01:39:22.620] She just kind of backed up against the bench and didn't move. So I handed the complaints
[01:39:22.620 --> 01:39:27.620] to the lawyer and he held up both hands with his palms out. He says, I'm not going to touch
[01:39:27.620 --> 01:39:35.620] them. He said, here, take them, you chick-a-chick. And the judge is watching this. But the lawyer
[01:39:35.620 --> 01:39:43.620] didn't understand. What I was doing was giving the lawyer plausible deniability. He didn't
[01:39:43.620 --> 01:39:48.620] go to the judge and say, see what I told the judge? I got a real jerk for a client. This
[01:39:48.620 --> 01:39:56.620] guy's going to ruin my career. You got to do something. So it changed the whole landscape.
[01:39:56.620 --> 01:40:04.620] I went out to lunch. I had told him, don't you dare let them dismiss this unless they
[01:40:04.620 --> 01:40:11.620] dismiss it without, with prejudice. So that you couldn't bring it back. I go out to lunch
[01:40:11.620 --> 01:40:17.620] and they dismiss while I'm out to lunch. And the lawyer was just ecstatic. He actually
[01:40:17.620 --> 01:40:25.620] got to win one. The lawyers can't fight for you because the courts are corrupt. And the
[01:40:25.620 --> 01:40:35.620] courts are corrupt because we allow them to be. This goes to one of my favorite quotations.
[01:40:35.620 --> 01:40:44.620] The H.G. Wells in his outline of history on speaking to the corruption of the popes during
[01:40:44.620 --> 01:40:55.620] the Dark Ages. Very aptly observed. Those, I'm sorry, the giver of the law most owes
[01:40:55.620 --> 01:41:02.620] the law allegiance. He of all beings should behave as though the law compels him. But
[01:41:02.620 --> 01:41:09.620] it is the universal failing of mankind that what we are given to administer, we promptly
[01:41:09.620 --> 01:41:20.620] presume we own. And that's what's happened with our judges. We haven't exercised the
[01:41:20.620 --> 01:41:28.620] existing checks and balances for the judges and the lawyers. And we've allowed them to
[01:41:28.620 --> 01:41:37.620] develop a culture of corruption. We can't blame them. They're only responding to the
[01:41:37.620 --> 01:41:45.620] influences that are in front of them. There should be an influence that would influence
[01:41:45.620 --> 01:41:52.620] them to do the right things. And that's the influence we would have to bring there and
[01:41:52.620 --> 01:42:03.620] we haven't done it. So that's kind of the purpose of this website is to create a simple
[01:42:03.620 --> 01:42:10.620] and effective way to provide this check to the balance of the abuse of power.
[01:42:10.620 --> 01:42:19.620] Okay, I have a caller and he wants to talk about foreclosure issues. So we're going to
[01:42:19.620 --> 01:42:24.620] go to Chris from New York. Yo bub Chris.
[01:42:24.620 --> 01:42:29.620] Hey, I don't know if I'm technically from New York anymore.
[01:42:29.620 --> 01:42:37.620] Well, yeah, Chris moved down from New York to Texas and he lowered the average IQ of
[01:42:37.620 --> 01:42:50.620] both states. Okay, you have a friend in New York.
[01:42:50.620 --> 01:42:55.620] Wait a minute. You said Steve is calling in. You have someone else calling in?
[01:42:55.620 --> 01:43:00.620] Yeah, Steve is going to be calling in. He's got some interesting information he got today.
[01:43:00.620 --> 01:43:06.620] I wanted to make sure it was in line with the practice you're taking and see if there's
[01:43:06.620 --> 01:43:15.620] opportunity to pounce on some East Coast judge shack type orders.
[01:43:15.620 --> 01:43:21.620] Oh, wonderful. I do like beating up judges. Judges are just not used to somebody beating
[01:43:21.620 --> 01:43:29.620] them up. You folks, you should have saw the look on the magistrate of the JP's face today
[01:43:29.620 --> 01:43:34.620] when I asked her own bailiff to arrest her.
[01:43:34.620 --> 01:43:41.620] It was absolutely glorious. Hang on, Chris, we're going to break. This is Randy Kelton,
[01:43:41.620 --> 01:43:49.620] Denver, Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rudolf Laredio, a call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:43:49.620 --> 01:43:59.620] We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:43:59.620 --> 01:44:04.620] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so
[01:44:04.620 --> 01:44:08.620] easy and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[01:44:08.620 --> 01:44:11.620] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then.
[01:44:11.620 --> 01:44:12.620] Brave New Books?
[01:44:12.620 --> 01:44:17.620] Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones,
[01:44:17.620 --> 01:44:23.620] Ron Paul and G. Edward Griffin. They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin
[01:44:23.620 --> 01:44:24.620] Soaps.
[01:44:24.620 --> 01:44:26.620] There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:44:26.620 --> 01:44:31.620] Go check it out for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[01:44:31.620 --> 01:44:35.620] Oh, by UT? There's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:44:35.620 --> 01:44:41.620] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
[01:44:41.620 --> 01:44:43.620] facility just behind the bookstore.
[01:44:43.620 --> 01:44:46.620] It does exist, but when are they open?
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[01:46:30.620 --> 01:46:31.620] We're on the calendar.
[01:46:31.620 --> 01:46:39.620] Steve, David Craig, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Chris from New York, Texas.
[01:46:39.620 --> 01:46:44.620] I'm just talking to Chris from Texas, so now I've got two Chris from Texas.
[01:46:44.620 --> 01:46:48.620] Okay, Chris, I see Steve is there.
[01:46:48.620 --> 01:46:50.620] Should I bring him up immediately?
[01:46:50.620 --> 01:46:53.620] Yeah, why don't you do that?
[01:46:53.620 --> 01:46:56.620] Okay, Steve, you are up.
[01:46:56.620 --> 01:46:59.620] You had a question for us.
[01:46:59.620 --> 01:47:01.620] How are you, Randy?
[01:47:01.620 --> 01:47:04.620] I am doing good and welcome to Texas.
[01:47:04.620 --> 01:47:09.620] Thank you very much.
[01:47:09.620 --> 01:47:21.620] We just accused Chris of moving down from New York to Texas and lowering the average IQ of both states.
[01:47:21.620 --> 01:47:26.620] We missed Chris up here in New York City, that's for sure.
[01:47:26.620 --> 01:47:32.620] I wonder if Chris misses the ice and snow.
[01:47:32.620 --> 01:47:35.620] And the hurricanes, probably not.
[01:47:35.620 --> 01:47:38.620] He does not.
[01:47:38.620 --> 01:47:41.620] Okay, you had a question for us.
[01:47:41.620 --> 01:47:55.620] Yes, I'm working on my reply to a motion to dismiss my case in foreclosure.
[01:47:55.620 --> 01:48:04.620] And I came across something that was interesting that they're using as a foreclosure defense, which you may be aware of, maybe not,
[01:48:04.620 --> 01:48:14.620] that they're trying to prove that they, like in my case, the trustee to the mortgage servicing pool, the Remic,
[01:48:14.620 --> 01:48:18.620] is the one trying to foreclose on the house.
[01:48:18.620 --> 01:48:27.620] And they've come across that the Remic itself did not, how should I say this,
[01:48:27.620 --> 01:48:38.620] that did not transfer the mortgages into the Remic properly or on time according to their own rules within their own agreement,
[01:48:38.620 --> 01:48:45.620] which therefore makes them lack the standing within their own rules of the trust that they formed.
[01:48:45.620 --> 01:48:49.620] Okay, is Mars included in your mortgage?
[01:48:49.620 --> 01:48:53.620] Yes, it is.
[01:48:53.620 --> 01:48:59.620] Did the lender sign the mortgage?
[01:48:59.620 --> 01:49:01.620] No.
[01:49:01.620 --> 01:49:04.620] Okay, I have a question for you.
[01:49:04.620 --> 01:49:10.620] Let's say you loan me money to purchase a property with.
[01:49:10.620 --> 01:49:25.620] And you want me to write you a lien against property to protect your, so that you can enforce the repayment on the promise that I made.
[01:49:25.620 --> 01:49:37.620] You want me to write you a mortgage, and I write you a mortgage, and I make concessions to you in that mortgage with stipulations.
[01:49:37.620 --> 01:49:45.620] And I also say that, well, you know, generally Steve would be the lender, so he'd be the beneficiary,
[01:49:45.620 --> 01:49:49.620] but I don't want him to have a right to collect the payments.
[01:49:49.620 --> 01:49:51.620] I want somebody else to have a right to do that.
[01:49:51.620 --> 01:49:57.620] Say I want George over here to collect those payments, get the benefit of those payments.
[01:49:57.620 --> 01:50:02.620] And the guy that he has representing him, I don't like him either.
[01:50:02.620 --> 01:50:09.620] I'm going to appoint a agent to represent the lender.
[01:50:09.620 --> 01:50:15.620] What power would I have to do that?
[01:50:15.620 --> 01:50:17.620] Right.
[01:50:17.620 --> 01:50:20.620] Right, no power to do that.
[01:50:20.620 --> 01:50:24.620] Only the lender can make concessions for the lender.
[01:50:24.620 --> 01:50:34.620] For the last 200 years, only the borrower had to sign a deed of trust or a mortgage,
[01:50:34.620 --> 01:50:40.620] because only the borrower made concessions in the deed of trust or the mortgage.
[01:50:40.620 --> 01:50:45.620] He made concessions to the lender with stipulations on those concessions.
[01:50:45.620 --> 01:50:53.620] Well, when they added MERS to the mix, that involved concessions by the lender.
[01:50:53.620 --> 01:51:00.620] The lender conceded his right to be the beneficiary to MERS.
[01:51:00.620 --> 01:51:06.620] And the lender appointed MERS as an agent to represent him.
[01:51:06.620 --> 01:51:08.620] Only the lender can do that.
[01:51:08.620 --> 01:51:11.620] I can't appoint an attorney to represent you.
[01:51:11.620 --> 01:51:14.620] You have to do that.
[01:51:14.620 --> 01:51:21.620] So in order for that portion of the contract to be valid, the lender would have had to sign the contract.
[01:51:21.620 --> 01:51:29.620] As far as I can see on any of the notes that have been...
[01:51:29.620 --> 01:51:32.620] We're talking the mortgage.
[01:51:32.620 --> 01:51:36.620] Right. The only signature on there is mine.
[01:51:36.620 --> 01:51:41.620] Right. I've never seen one with the lender's signature on it.
[01:51:41.620 --> 01:51:44.620] And that's because for 200 years they never had to sign it.
[01:51:44.620 --> 01:51:46.620] Right.
[01:51:46.620 --> 01:51:49.620] But it all changed with the addition of MERS.
[01:51:49.620 --> 01:51:54.620] They added those caveats in there that included MERS.
[01:51:54.620 --> 01:52:02.620] Because the norm, the standard deed of trust or mortgage, they're generally a fanny.
[01:52:02.620 --> 01:52:09.620] They'll have a footer that says Fanny Mae Freddie Mac Uniform Instrument in Texas.
[01:52:09.620 --> 01:52:13.620] It's 3044, I believe, in California.
[01:52:13.620 --> 01:52:15.620] It's 3009.
[01:52:15.620 --> 01:52:20.620] It'll be 30-something and it'll have a number for every state.
[01:52:20.620 --> 01:52:25.620] Well, that document doesn't have anything to do with MERS in it.
[01:52:25.620 --> 01:52:28.620] And then they come along and put MERS in it.
[01:52:28.620 --> 01:52:39.620] And whoever put the wording for the inclusion of MERS in the contract had to have been high on Coke.
[01:52:39.620 --> 01:52:48.620] It's something because it's an absolute incomprehensible mess.
[01:52:48.620 --> 01:52:55.620] Under definition E, it'll be the D or E.
[01:52:55.620 --> 01:52:59.620] Sometimes they juxtapose the lender and MERS.
[01:52:59.620 --> 01:53:05.620] But MERS is defined as the beneficiary for the lender.
[01:53:05.620 --> 01:53:13.620] So that's saying that MERS is the one that has the right to receive payments on the note.
[01:53:13.620 --> 01:53:16.620] It's the benefit.
[01:53:16.620 --> 01:53:25.620] And then right after that it goes to a transfer section where the property is transferred if it's a deed of trust to a trustee.
[01:53:25.620 --> 01:53:29.620] And you mentioned a trustee earlier.
[01:53:29.620 --> 01:53:34.620] I thought New York was a judicial state.
[01:53:34.620 --> 01:53:36.620] It is.
[01:53:36.620 --> 01:53:40.620] You have a mortgage, not a trust, not a deed of trust.
[01:53:40.620 --> 01:53:48.620] No, what I'm saying is the trustee to the mortgage to the remit itself is the Bank of New York,
[01:53:48.620 --> 01:53:52.620] the trustee to the mortgage pool of mortgages.
[01:53:52.620 --> 01:53:55.620] They are the ones trying to foreclose.
[01:53:55.620 --> 01:53:56.620] Okay.
[01:53:56.620 --> 01:54:00.620] And they're finally doing it the way they should.
[01:54:00.620 --> 01:54:15.620] Because that would be the only one withstanding if they can establish that your note was actually negotiated into the trust and not simply hypothecated.
[01:54:15.620 --> 01:54:16.620] Exactly.
[01:54:16.620 --> 01:54:18.620] And so that's what I'm at.
[01:54:18.620 --> 01:54:27.620] They are doing this as far as I can tell as properly as anyone has been able to do it because they are actually the ones that should be trying to foreclose.
[01:54:27.620 --> 01:54:39.620] And what I think that I have them, and I hope I'm right, is that they lack standing because within their own rules in the trust that they created for the remit,
[01:54:39.620 --> 01:54:44.620] they've broken their own rules and the New York laws of trust.
[01:54:44.620 --> 01:54:52.620] And they did not give the mortgage that I signed into their mortgage pool on time.
[01:54:52.620 --> 01:55:05.620] Look at when I signed the note, it was two years later that they actually assigned, MERS assigned the note to the trustee of the remit.
[01:55:05.620 --> 01:55:18.620] In their own language on the mortgage and pooling service and agreement, they had 30 days to do so or that mortgage would be void or kicked out of the trust altogether.
[01:55:18.620 --> 01:55:33.620] Okay, that seems pretty, well, okay, that is a, that's prima facie, prima facie evidence that the note is not in the pool itself.
[01:55:33.620 --> 01:55:48.620] The master servicer of the trust is considered the holder for purposes of all of the notes in the trust.
[01:55:48.620 --> 01:56:00.620] The servicer of the note is generally designated as the custodian of the document custodian.
[01:56:00.620 --> 01:56:14.620] So have you filed discovery asking the document custodian to produce the note with the launches, with the negotiations or endorsements and launches,
[01:56:14.620 --> 01:56:20.620] showing that it was transferred to this trust?
[01:56:20.620 --> 01:56:29.620] In so many words, I believe we have, but we're at the point where we need to insist that they do that now.
[01:56:29.620 --> 01:56:37.620] Okay, write down UCC 3-501.
[01:56:37.620 --> 01:56:54.620] UCC 3-501 says that if a creditor makes a presentment to a debtor and a presentment is defined by the Uniform Commercial Code as a demand for payment,
[01:56:54.620 --> 01:57:05.620] if a creditor makes demand of a debtor for payment and the debtor demands production of the original security instrument,
[01:57:05.620 --> 01:57:13.620] the creditor must make the original security instrument available for inspection by the debtor.
[01:57:13.620 --> 01:57:21.620] He does not have to give it to the debtor, but he has to make the original available for inspection.
[01:57:21.620 --> 01:57:26.620] We have asked for those and they came back with a response saying,
[01:57:26.620 --> 01:57:42.620] we cannot make that available to you because it must be retained in order to establish a holdership of the note.
[01:57:42.620 --> 01:57:51.620] Duh! That's exactly what we're asking you to do. That's why you have to retain it.
[01:57:51.620 --> 01:58:03.620] We're not asking you to give it to us. We're asking you to show it to us so that you can prove you're the holder of the note.
[01:58:03.620 --> 01:58:15.620] That is a statutory requirement that if they don't produce it, you may cease all payment without dishonor until they produce it.
[01:58:15.620 --> 01:58:20.620] Hang on, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Luva Radio.
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