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[03:21.040 --> 03:42.880] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debra Steeves, Eddie Craig, and we're on the radio and
[03:42.880 --> 03:47.600] we're talking to Julius and Texas.
[03:47.600 --> 03:53.160] Okay, Julius, where were we?
[03:53.160 --> 04:00.920] We were at the finishing up on the criteria, the petition for the writ of mandamus where
[04:00.920 --> 04:06.560] I think we finished with table of authorities, then you get into points.
[04:06.560 --> 04:08.320] Is that right?
[04:08.320 --> 04:12.680] You have to make a point and then you have to move the church.
[04:12.680 --> 04:21.320] If it's mandamus, you have to state the facts, give them a statement of facts, first give
[04:21.320 --> 04:24.960] them an overview of the case.
[04:24.960 --> 04:29.560] I think you have to structurally, there are some things you have to put there.
[04:29.560 --> 04:37.360] You have to put parties and jurisdiction and venue.
[04:37.360 --> 04:46.360] When you give a general overview of the case, and in the overview of the case, it's in the
[04:46.360 --> 04:49.360] form of a statement of facts.
[04:49.360 --> 04:54.120] Try to avoid argument in this section.
[04:54.120 --> 05:01.280] It should be dry and to the point, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened.
[05:01.280 --> 05:09.640] And then this issue was brought, this is the law concerning the issue.
[05:09.640 --> 05:13.160] This was what the judge was required by law to do.
[05:13.160 --> 05:21.480] The judge failed to do this thing and then you put in a prayer and move the court to
[05:21.480 --> 05:27.040] issue an order to this court to do this thing the law requires him to do.
[05:27.040 --> 05:31.840] And every once in a while, I like to speak to prayer.
[05:31.840 --> 05:37.880] When I say prayer, a lot of times our religious listeners out there will kind of whistle and
[05:37.880 --> 05:41.920] cringe at using the term prayer.
[05:41.920 --> 05:50.920] And before you get too excited about that, the Bible didn't invent the word, the Bible
[05:50.920 --> 05:53.160] merely used it.
[05:53.160 --> 06:01.360] The word has other meanings other than the one that's generally attributed to it when
[06:01.360 --> 06:04.000] it's seen in the Bible.
[06:04.000 --> 06:14.960] For the most part, people hear prayer and they subliminally attach to it prayer to God.
[06:14.960 --> 06:25.240] But prayer doesn't mean necessarily that you're asking your God to do something for you.
[06:25.240 --> 06:30.040] Prayer really means you're asking someone.
[06:30.040 --> 06:34.560] And generally when we use it in this culture, we use it in terms of praying to God, but
[06:34.560 --> 06:35.720] that's not always the case.
[06:35.720 --> 06:41.480] So it does not have an intrinsic religious meaning.
[06:41.480 --> 06:45.120] And I've had people say, well, I'm not going to pray to some judge.
[06:45.120 --> 06:48.800] He didn't understand what the language meant.
[06:48.800 --> 06:53.040] Prayer just means that you're asking somebody for something.
[06:53.040 --> 07:02.040] And in a legal document, the judge can't do anything unless you ask them to.
[07:02.040 --> 07:04.800] And that's just a form of where I'm asking them.
[07:04.800 --> 07:09.400] That hasn't come up in a while, but I thought I'd just address it in case somebody kind
[07:09.400 --> 07:11.040] of bristled at it.
[07:11.040 --> 07:17.960] We had a guy here in Austin got sued by a credit card company, and he brought me the
[07:17.960 --> 07:23.840] suit and I looked at it and I told him, these guys have a God of prayer.
[07:23.840 --> 07:25.160] And he said, well, why not?
[07:25.160 --> 07:28.640] I said, I don't know, they don't have one.
[07:28.640 --> 07:37.000] They totally judge what a no good rotten lousy scumbag deadbeat you are, but they didn't
[07:37.000 --> 07:38.880] ask the judge to do anything.
[07:38.880 --> 07:41.240] They don't have a prayer.
[07:41.240 --> 07:43.400] That's great.
[07:43.400 --> 07:49.200] Well, that's the one where we sued the judge.
[07:49.200 --> 07:54.160] This is how you address lack of subject matter jurisdiction to the judge.
[07:54.160 --> 07:57.040] The judge came in and he asked, well, the honor, what are you doing here?
[07:57.040 --> 08:02.440] I sued you and he looked at the suit and he said, well, Mr. Edelman, I'm not the one
[08:02.440 --> 08:04.680] who has to determine subject matter jurisdiction.
[08:04.680 --> 08:06.840] You have to do that.
[08:06.840 --> 08:13.000] And he said, your honor, with all due respect, before you order me to come down here to this
[08:13.000 --> 08:17.800] court and threaten me with all the things you're going to do with me, if I don't, you
[08:17.800 --> 08:23.160] need to be sure you have authority to do that.
[08:23.160 --> 08:25.040] That was so much fun.
[08:25.040 --> 08:34.960] The judge, he was a JP judge, he got the county attorney to answer the suit.
[08:34.960 --> 08:39.800] So we sued this county attorney for misappropriation of public funds.
[08:39.800 --> 08:44.880] We did not sue the judge in his personal, in his professional capacity.
[08:44.880 --> 08:47.880] The whole point was he had no professional capacity.
[08:47.880 --> 08:51.440] We sued him in his personal capacity.
[08:51.440 --> 08:54.800] So we sued the county attorney for misappropriation of public funds.
[08:54.800 --> 08:56.800] That was such a hoot.
[08:56.800 --> 08:57.800] Wow.
[08:57.800 --> 09:00.800] That's just how it works.
[09:00.800 --> 09:06.080] Okay, the guy didn't follow through and he let the whole thing go, and that was a disappointment.
[09:06.080 --> 09:08.480] But we were just really beginning to have fun.
[09:08.480 --> 09:15.280] I'm saying that to you, Julius, because I get the very distinct impression that you would
[09:15.280 --> 09:17.560] have a great time with something like that.
[09:17.560 --> 09:18.560] Oh, absolutely.
[09:18.560 --> 09:20.680] I'm ready for it.
[09:20.680 --> 09:21.680] Absolutely.
[09:21.680 --> 09:25.080] Okay, so you're a mandamus.
[09:25.080 --> 09:30.040] What is it that the judge was required to do that he did not do?
[09:30.040 --> 09:34.120] Okay, the judge made an order of the court.
[09:34.120 --> 09:40.640] I think I explained yesterday, this was the dismiss and refile little scheme that people
[09:40.640 --> 09:46.320] that I've heard done before, and Eddie was a good one, you know, to hit me to that scheme
[09:46.320 --> 09:53.120] because he said it several times, you know, that they do this dismiss and refile by wiping
[09:53.120 --> 10:00.720] the slate clean of prior due process violations, filings of motions, affidavits, et cetera,
[10:00.720 --> 10:01.720] on your case.
[10:01.720 --> 10:06.520] That's the slate clean file under a new case, therefore there's a whole new case.
[10:06.520 --> 10:12.280] So they take your original accusation, now it's in a new case, and you have no filing.
[10:12.280 --> 10:13.280] You have no...
[10:13.280 --> 10:15.240] Okay, hold on, hold on.
[10:15.240 --> 10:21.160] Did they file a new case in charge of you with the same thing?
[10:21.160 --> 10:23.160] Absolutely.
[10:23.160 --> 10:33.440] Then, if they dismiss the case, they can't bring back the refile the case unless they
[10:33.440 --> 10:36.720] have new evidence.
[10:36.720 --> 10:38.880] You need to go back and look at that.
[10:38.880 --> 10:44.280] Okay, it's a dismiss and refile, and you know, so bizarre because...
[10:44.280 --> 10:48.920] Okay, okay, listen, the prosecutor can dismiss.
[10:48.920 --> 10:49.920] Okay.
[10:49.920 --> 10:58.840] And he can refile, but he must dismiss based on some error.
[10:58.840 --> 11:06.600] Okay, he did dismiss based upon the complaint did not bear my correct name of one...
[11:06.600 --> 11:10.240] My last name is Mano, and it's the complaint said Mando.
[11:10.240 --> 11:12.240] I mean...
[11:12.240 --> 11:19.880] Then, there's remedies, go back and sue the court or whoever filed a complaint.
[11:19.880 --> 11:26.200] For malicious prosecution, sue the city for malicious prosecution, they prosecuted you
[11:26.200 --> 11:36.360] under the wrong name and subjected you to mistreatment and monetary loss, and by their
[11:36.360 --> 11:39.880] own admission, the prosecution was improper.
[11:39.880 --> 11:40.880] Excellent.
[11:40.880 --> 11:46.120] And they tried to sneak this by me because when they had...
[11:46.120 --> 11:49.960] When I got in front of the judge with this prosecutor, even though I'm a little bit hard
[11:49.960 --> 11:56.120] of hearing, just from playing a hundred rock martial arts for the past 30 years.
[11:56.120 --> 12:00.200] But this prosecutor said I'm going to be rep.
[12:00.200 --> 12:02.120] Hold on just a second.
[12:02.120 --> 12:03.120] I'm going to mute.
[12:03.120 --> 12:04.120] Okay, go ahead.
[12:04.120 --> 12:07.640] You know, I've got a train coming a little bit here.
[12:07.640 --> 12:09.360] I hope it's not going to be loud.
[12:09.360 --> 12:16.080] No, I don't hear you train, but on my side, if a big loud truck goes by, it will drop
[12:16.080 --> 12:23.400] and drive down your signal below mine, so I need to mute out.
[12:23.400 --> 12:25.600] So go ahead, I'm going to mute.
[12:25.600 --> 12:26.600] Okay, good.
[12:26.600 --> 12:36.200] So pretty much the prosecutor at this one hearing said, Your Honor, we'd like to dismiss
[12:36.200 --> 12:37.200] and refile.
[12:37.200 --> 12:42.000] Now, you didn't hear what I just said, but what it was was we would like to dismiss and
[12:42.000 --> 12:48.240] refile because I had a voice recorder going that I could hear what he said after this
[12:48.240 --> 12:51.680] action, but during the court proceeding, I couldn't understand it.
[12:51.680 --> 12:56.560] I couldn't hear it because he said it under his breath on purpose so that I wouldn't hear
[12:56.560 --> 12:57.560] it.
[12:57.560 --> 13:01.880] But the judge knows what that scheme was, carried the ball.
[13:01.880 --> 13:02.880] Wait a minute.
[13:02.880 --> 13:06.680] Did you ask him to repeat because you couldn't hear it?
[13:06.680 --> 13:08.400] No, I didn't.
[13:08.400 --> 13:10.240] I didn't ask him to repeat.
[13:10.240 --> 13:12.600] Okay, I love to do that.
[13:12.600 --> 13:16.200] It puts him off kilter.
[13:16.200 --> 13:26.360] My favorite time ever doing that, I was talking to our local sheriff and here in Wise County,
[13:26.360 --> 13:28.440] we really do have a good sheriff.
[13:28.440 --> 13:31.400] He was elected at 26.
[13:31.400 --> 13:32.400] Really smart.
[13:32.400 --> 13:34.480] He really is a good sheriff.
[13:34.480 --> 13:39.720] I never hear people complaining about the Sheriff's Department in Wise County anymore
[13:39.720 --> 13:47.440] since he's been in, but I was talking to him and I was just trying to get him off kilter
[13:47.440 --> 13:53.720] and I said, no, no sheriff, you have to understand that I'm an old combat veteran and I don't
[13:53.720 --> 13:56.680] hear as well as I used to.
[13:56.680 --> 14:02.840] Will you look and speak clearly into my pen, please?
[14:02.840 --> 14:09.960] His eyes jerked down to my chest and he said, well, you don't have a pen.
[14:09.960 --> 14:19.080] Oh, yeah, yeah, I got it over here in my hand, but it's one of the things that they will
[14:19.080 --> 14:25.840] do to you is they will try to knock you off kilter.
[14:25.840 --> 14:26.840] So ask him to repeat.
[14:26.840 --> 14:27.840] I didn't hear you.
[14:27.840 --> 14:28.840] Right.
[14:28.840 --> 14:34.360] Well, do you know what wound up being actually, I think, real good for me?
[14:34.360 --> 14:39.840] Because this is what happened after he says this nonsense, the proceedings going by and
[14:39.840 --> 14:45.320] the end of it was the judge was going to allow the prosecution time to fix the complaint
[14:45.320 --> 14:52.280] and her last words were, then we will reset the case for another day.
[14:52.280 --> 14:54.480] And that's in quotes.
[14:54.480 --> 15:05.360] Okay, wait a minute, something's wrong here, because there is only one thing in the complaint
[15:05.360 --> 15:09.760] that's fatal to the complaint.
[15:09.760 --> 15:15.800] Everything else comes under nuns proton, it's just a minor error, you can fix it.
[15:15.800 --> 15:23.240] And if the name was not spelled correctly, but the name was close enough, so it would
[15:23.240 --> 15:33.560] be very unlikely that it could be the wrong person, then they can simply change spelling.
[15:33.560 --> 15:42.600] The only thing that's fatal is if you were accused of committing a crime, the day before
[15:42.600 --> 15:52.880] if the complaint is dated, the day before you committed the crime, that can't be fixed.
[15:52.880 --> 15:57.520] You can't change the date and correct the date, that's the one thing that was fatal,
[15:57.520 --> 16:00.720] but that's the only thing that's fatal.
[16:00.720 --> 16:01.720] Okay.
[16:01.720 --> 16:06.320] Everybody, everything else, oh, you spelled the name wrong, well, are you this person,
[16:06.320 --> 16:10.120] you have this driver's license, you're the right guy, we just got the name wrong, and
[16:10.120 --> 16:15.200] that's in the case law, that we could just correct the spelling and that's gone.
[16:15.200 --> 16:23.360] So that was improper on its face that was not grounds for dismissal and refiling, on
[16:23.360 --> 16:26.680] its face, and they knew that.
[16:26.680 --> 16:31.640] And I think they wanted to dismiss and refile because they had issued a fraudulent warrant
[16:31.640 --> 16:34.360] for my arrest under that old complaint.
[16:34.360 --> 16:41.360] Well, that problem doesn't go away just because they dismissed and refiled, but that fell
[16:41.360 --> 16:45.640] spin around, or did they execute the warrant?
[16:45.640 --> 16:47.280] They executed that warrant.
[16:47.280 --> 16:48.280] Okay.
[16:48.280 --> 16:49.280] Okay.
[16:49.280 --> 16:50.280] We're out of time.
[16:50.280 --> 16:56.440] Randy Kelton, David Steven, David Craig, we'll go to the radio, call in number 512-646-1984.
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[19:00.400 --> 19:15.000] Well, don't let nothing get to you, only the father can deliver you, and don't let back
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[19:17.000 --> 19:18.000] You know what I mean?
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[19:20.000 --> 19:26.000] Those things are hurting me crazy, getting your problem in me, calling is made hard again.
[19:26.000 --> 19:27.000] Okay, we are back.
[19:27.000 --> 19:34.000] Randy Kelsen, never speak with David Craig, rule of law radio, and we're talking to Julius
[19:34.000 --> 19:35.000] in Texas.
[19:35.000 --> 19:39.160] Okay, Julius, where were we?
[19:39.160 --> 19:47.240] We were at where they did the dismiss and the refile on the current, on the, this case,
[19:47.240 --> 19:52.840] to a new case, and where they did that because of the change of my name and they thought
[19:52.840 --> 19:57.360] they had to, but you said it's not a fatal error and they didn't have to do all this
[19:57.360 --> 20:03.600] and et cetera, and then my issue is, okay, the judge said we will reset the case for
[20:03.600 --> 20:05.160] another day.
[20:05.160 --> 20:10.080] That meant to me that the case would have still been the old case number.
[20:10.080 --> 20:18.960] Well, she went and did a dismiss and refile order that evening without my knowledge, and
[20:18.960 --> 20:23.160] the dismiss the case outright and refile the whole accusation.
[20:23.160 --> 20:36.120] Okay, here's the deal, it's the same case, and if you run a red light and park the car
[20:36.120 --> 20:46.760] and get in another car, did that make the running the red light somehow not a violation?
[20:46.760 --> 20:57.160] Okay, probably, if they issued an improper warrant, was the warrant executed?
[20:57.160 --> 21:02.240] The warrant was executed under the first cause number because they claimed, they made a false
[21:02.240 --> 21:07.160] claim that I appeared, but I didn't appear, I mean that I didn't appear, but actually
[21:07.160 --> 21:08.160] I did.
[21:08.160 --> 21:11.280] Did they arrest you on the warrant?
[21:11.280 --> 21:15.840] Not arrest me, but it was an arrest warrant that was executed.
[21:15.840 --> 21:19.440] No, wait, wait, no, it's the only way it's executed is if you're arrested.
[21:19.440 --> 21:23.760] Okay, well, I mean they made the warrant, so I don't understand.
[21:23.760 --> 21:29.400] Okay, if they just created the warrant and you weren't arrested on the warrant, then
[21:29.400 --> 21:31.560] they're going to say no harm, no foul.
[21:31.560 --> 21:35.120] Okay, no harm, no foul, so that's the end of that.
[21:35.120 --> 21:36.120] Yeah.
[21:36.120 --> 21:41.000] Okay, all right, that one won't do it, but they caused you to come to court all of these
[21:41.000 --> 21:46.040] times based on their mistake.
[21:46.040 --> 21:47.040] Yeah.
[21:47.040 --> 21:48.040] Build them.
[21:48.040 --> 21:49.040] Good, excellent.
[21:49.040 --> 21:55.720] Build them for your time, do it in a, use the commercial process, this is a great place
[21:55.720 --> 21:57.720] to use the commercial process.
[21:57.720 --> 21:58.720] Okay.
[21:58.720 --> 22:01.000] Send them a bill for your time.
[22:01.000 --> 22:02.000] Okay.
[22:02.000 --> 22:05.080] That'll be great fun, that'll get them hopping.
[22:05.080 --> 22:06.080] Yeah.
[22:06.080 --> 22:08.000] Okay, our calls are really building up.
[22:08.000 --> 22:10.280] Thanks for it, Randy, get somebody else.
[22:10.280 --> 22:14.520] Okay, thank you, Julius, and keep us up to date on how this goes.
[22:14.520 --> 22:16.240] Absolutely, thank you.
[22:16.240 --> 22:28.040] Okay, now we're going to go to George in Texas, and George has a towing issue, oh, I'm sorry,
[22:28.040 --> 22:30.400] we're also going to bring up Tyler.
[22:30.400 --> 22:35.520] Tyler was on and he dropped off, so he got down to the bottom of the list, and he also
[22:35.520 --> 22:36.680] has a towing issue.
[22:36.680 --> 22:43.240] So George, I'm going to have you and Tyler both up at the same time, so be careful with
[22:43.240 --> 22:48.040] background noise, because if it gets real noisy, Deborah will beat me to a bloody pulp.
[22:48.040 --> 22:52.240] Okay, I'm going to go to Tyler first, because he was on first, he just got kind of bumped
[22:52.240 --> 22:53.240] off.
[22:53.240 --> 22:56.880] Tyler, I understand you have a towing issue.
[22:56.880 --> 23:01.480] Yeah, I do.
[23:01.480 --> 23:03.480] I was struck.
[23:03.480 --> 23:09.760] I was in a moving van that I owned, and I was pulling out from the stop side, and I had
[23:09.760 --> 23:11.960] plenty of time.
[23:11.960 --> 23:18.320] The lady was signaling about a block and a half up the way, so I pulled out, and had
[23:18.320 --> 23:24.040] plenty of time to make my, she's cruising pretty good, decided not to turn, but I was
[23:24.040 --> 23:29.400] already in the intersection pulling into the next lane, so I was very clear covering the
[23:29.400 --> 23:36.440] whole road, and she just switched out of her turn and came and hit me, and two things she
[23:36.440 --> 23:40.240] could have avoided, if she was in that much of a hurry, she could have went right around
[23:40.240 --> 23:41.240] me.
[23:41.240 --> 23:42.240] I noticed her stop.
[23:42.240 --> 23:47.160] I got stopped before she did, even though I was just on my way out to the lane, and
[23:47.160 --> 23:49.520] she didn't do that, and she didn't get stopped either.
[23:49.520 --> 23:53.800] I was sitting there watching her, I was thinking, lady, you got to step on the brake, you know,
[23:53.800 --> 24:01.160] and she runs right into my bumper, didn't do any damage to my moving van, and if I hadn't
[24:01.160 --> 24:06.080] stopped, and I was just going regular speed, she would have been about at the middle part
[24:06.080 --> 24:11.640] of the back of the moving van, so I was clearly in the intersection, had to ride away at that
[24:11.640 --> 24:12.640] point.
[24:12.640 --> 24:18.120] Okay, okay, okay, going to, did you get a ticket?
[24:18.120 --> 24:23.680] Yes, I did, yes, I did, and see, I honestly thought of my mark, okay, this is easy.
[24:23.680 --> 24:28.400] He's going to ride this lady out, he rolled me out, because he said I have the stop time.
[24:28.400 --> 24:31.400] I said, wait a minute, officer, I explain the situation.
[24:31.400 --> 24:32.400] He said it doesn't matter.
[24:32.400 --> 24:36.800] He said she can change her mind, and it's still your fault, because you didn't wait
[24:36.800 --> 24:41.880] for the, okay, officers are liars, and half the time they don't know what they're talking
[24:41.880 --> 24:42.880] about.
[24:42.880 --> 24:43.880] That's true.
[24:43.880 --> 24:49.920] If you pull out in front of me, I may not just run into you.
[24:49.920 --> 24:50.920] Right.
[24:50.920 --> 24:59.800] If I have opportunity to avoid the accident, I may not simply run into you.
[24:59.800 --> 25:04.920] I have to take action to avoid an accident.
[25:04.920 --> 25:12.600] She had last opportunity, so the cop is full of crapola, and did the officer personally
[25:12.600 --> 25:15.520] see or hear the offense being committed?
[25:15.520 --> 25:16.520] No.
[25:16.520 --> 25:21.360] How did he arrest you under what authority?
[25:21.360 --> 25:23.840] He was not, he did not arrest me.
[25:23.840 --> 25:24.840] He threatened to...
[25:24.840 --> 25:25.840] Stop, stop, stop.
[25:25.840 --> 25:26.840] Did you sign that ticket?
[25:26.840 --> 25:32.680] No, he didn't even have me sign it, he just handed it to me.
[25:32.680 --> 25:37.160] Did it order you to be in court on a certain day at a certain time with threat of arrest
[25:37.160 --> 25:39.760] if you didn't?
[25:39.760 --> 25:43.360] Okay, let me back up from that.
[25:43.360 --> 25:49.320] When the cop first got there, if you had told him, if he asked for your license, and he
[25:49.320 --> 25:56.600] told him, go scratch, could you have gotten in your vehicle and left?
[25:56.600 --> 26:00.440] I think so.
[26:00.440 --> 26:04.920] Do you think he would have just said, oh, okay, bye, see you later?
[26:04.920 --> 26:08.480] Oh, no, no, I didn't understand what you were saying.
[26:08.480 --> 26:09.480] No, he...
[26:09.480 --> 26:10.480] Yeah.
[26:10.480 --> 26:11.680] He had first ticket, but he didn't have me sign it.
[26:11.680 --> 26:12.680] I don't know why.
[26:12.680 --> 26:16.720] No, no, no, listen, I'm trying to explain to you what arrest is.
[26:16.720 --> 26:17.720] Okay.
[26:17.720 --> 26:27.920] Arrest is not cuffs, back seats, you know, cuff and stuff and transport.
[26:27.920 --> 26:37.080] Arrest, arrest means he arrests your freedom of movement.
[26:37.080 --> 26:43.880] Once you are no longer allowed to leave, if you cannot move freely, your freedom of movement
[26:43.880 --> 26:49.280] has been arrested, you are under arrest.
[26:49.280 --> 26:55.160] So he didn't see or hear the offense being committed, he had no power to do that.
[26:55.160 --> 26:59.680] And they do this all the time, and that's just the convenience that they do.
[26:59.680 --> 27:02.560] They send a policeman out to assign risk.
[27:02.560 --> 27:03.560] Right.
[27:03.560 --> 27:11.200] So you might look at suing the officer for the harm to your driving record and to your
[27:11.200 --> 27:19.200] insurance because of actions he took that were not within his scope of his authority.
[27:19.200 --> 27:24.520] Now, would that be assuming him personally in the district court, or what would that
[27:24.520 --> 27:25.520] be?
[27:25.520 --> 27:30.120] It depends on how much you sue him for, but suing personally, yes.
[27:30.120 --> 27:31.120] Okay.
[27:31.120 --> 27:35.000] Is that like, it wouldn't be like a small claim suit, it would be in an actual district
[27:35.000 --> 27:36.000] court or something, right?
[27:36.000 --> 27:39.120] It depends on how much you want to sue him for.
[27:39.120 --> 27:40.120] I see.
[27:40.120 --> 27:45.880] My other question, though, my main question, and you're right about that, Randy, and that's
[27:45.880 --> 27:50.840] why I obviously went to fight this because I was rubbing the court against my will for
[27:50.840 --> 27:55.920] something that was not my fault, actually, she should have been written up.
[27:55.920 --> 28:00.560] But what, I told the judge when I got in there, they give you the sheet that they want you
[28:00.560 --> 28:01.560] to sign.
[28:01.560 --> 28:04.160] It's a statement of rights.
[28:04.160 --> 28:10.760] And I told the judge right away, I said, I don't understand the charges, what you said
[28:10.760 --> 28:15.440] I did or didn't do because I can't read the ticket because you can't read the ticket.
[28:15.440 --> 28:18.520] And he spelled it out for me, and it says right on here, you don't understand what you
[28:18.520 --> 28:19.520] did.
[28:19.520 --> 28:20.520] It can't proceed, you know, they can't go on.
[28:20.520 --> 28:25.360] So he reads it out and writes it out real nice, and he says, I'll give you a copy of
[28:25.360 --> 28:29.960] this to the clerk, you go pick it up, and then you get with your attorney and you come
[28:29.960 --> 28:30.960] back.
[28:30.960 --> 28:34.840] And he said, all I want you to sign is the defendant's box here where it says that you
[28:34.840 --> 28:36.840] understand your rights.
[28:36.840 --> 28:40.280] And I said, well, I don't necessarily understand my rights, so I don't really want to sign
[28:40.280 --> 28:41.280] anything.
[28:41.280 --> 28:44.160] He goes, no, no, no, this is just saying that you appeared.
[28:44.160 --> 28:49.320] We just want to have a record that you showed up so we don't put a warrant out for you.
[28:49.320 --> 28:57.040] So I did sign that they're naively by first hearing, and I probably should not have.
[28:57.040 --> 29:01.760] But then in my second arraignment, he said it for two weeks later, I came back.
[29:01.760 --> 29:05.880] This time, he asked me, are you going to get an attorney, or are you going to do this yourself?
[29:05.880 --> 29:07.520] I said, I'm going to go pro persona.
[29:07.520 --> 29:12.640] And he got real smart with me, he goes, no, it's pro say, that means you're acting as
[29:12.640 --> 29:13.640] your own attorney.
[29:13.640 --> 29:18.400] I said, well, pro persona means I'm acting in my own person, or if I didn't want to
[29:18.400 --> 29:21.240] go pro say, I wanted to go pro persona.
[29:21.240 --> 29:24.480] And then he kind of got belligerent, and he goes, oh, I know what it means, I understand
[29:24.480 --> 29:29.080] that.
[29:29.080 --> 29:40.000] You always, if a judge is not civil with me, I ask him if he has a disqualifying prejudice.
[29:40.000 --> 29:41.000] And I should have done that.
[29:41.000 --> 29:42.680] I missed my opportunity.
[29:42.680 --> 29:43.680] That would have been fun.
[29:43.680 --> 29:44.680] Okay, hang on.
[29:44.680 --> 29:45.680] This is Randy Kelton, Deb.
[29:45.680 --> 29:54.000] Steve and Jenny Craig, Roodle Law Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[29:54.000 --> 30:00.280] You'll be right back.
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[32:18.720 --> 32:32.080] It came out on Thursday, 11 a.m. to midnight on Monday.
[32:32.080 --> 32:38.080] I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes
[32:40.080 --> 32:46.080] They must refuse your noose, also coming light
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[32:54.080 --> 33:02.080] Please stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes
[33:07.080 --> 33:13.080] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio
[33:14.080 --> 33:18.080] And we're talking to Tyler
[33:18.080 --> 33:25.080] Okay, Tyler, where were we? You had a cop?
[33:26.080 --> 33:31.080] I had addressed this issue before myself. I was in a minor little fender bender
[33:32.080 --> 33:38.080] I was pulling out onto a four-lane road and across the street from me
[33:39.080 --> 33:45.080] About 50 feet behind me was another car that was pulling out from the opposite side
[33:45.080 --> 33:50.080] Well, I looked behind me at the lane behind me to see that no cars were coming
[33:51.080 --> 33:56.080] Apparently at the same time he looked behind him, so we were looking in opposite directions
[33:57.080 --> 34:03.080] And then I looked in front of me so that when I pulled across the lanes to turn to my left
[34:04.080 --> 34:07.080] That there wasn't anybody over there and he did the same thing
[34:08.080 --> 34:11.080] So when we pulled out, we turned right into each other
[34:11.080 --> 34:16.080] And he pulled out 10 feet before I did, so I hit him
[34:17.080 --> 34:20.080] The cop came along and told us there was no major damage here
[34:21.080 --> 34:24.080] You're blocking traffic. Why don't you pull your cars up in the parking lot
[34:25.080 --> 34:28.080] And a local police came to investigate and he wrote me a ticket
[34:29.080 --> 34:35.080] We get to court and I asked the officer how the accident occurred
[34:35.080 --> 34:45.080] And he explained how the accident occurred and I said, well, before the accident occurred
[34:46.080 --> 34:49.080] Were there any cars coming in either direction?
[34:50.080 --> 34:52.080] And he said, well, I wouldn't know. Well, why wouldn't you know?
[34:53.080 --> 34:58.080] He said, well, I wasn't there. Oh, you weren't there. Well, who are you? Oh, I was on another call
[34:58.080 --> 35:07.080] Oh, so when you got to the accident, you examined the position of cars in the street
[35:08.080 --> 35:10.080] Oh, no, the cars weren't in the street. They were in the parking lot
[35:11.080 --> 35:17.080] Oh, oh, then you examined the skid marks that were in the street. Oh, there were no skid marks
[35:18.080 --> 35:21.080] Oh, there were no skid marks. Then you examined the glass patterns. Oh, there were no glass patterns
[35:22.080 --> 35:24.080] Why did you know an accident occurred?
[35:24.080 --> 35:29.080] Well, I talked to you and the other person involved in the accident
[35:30.080 --> 35:47.080] Did you write this citation? He said, yes, I did. Did you state on your oath that you had reason to believe and they believe that I committed this criminal act and caused me to sign this in order to avoid being arrested? He said, yes, I did
[35:47.080 --> 36:06.080] So tell me, Officer Pringle, when did you commit aggravated perjury? When you wrote this citation and arrested me in a situation where you could only arrest me based on having personally seen or heard the offense being committed?
[36:06.080 --> 36:22.080] Or just now when you testified that you didn't see or heard the offense being committed and they had a brand new prosecutor. This older woman brought in this younger woman and was showing her around the court and stuff and telling her how everything worked
[36:23.080 --> 36:31.080] And then the younger woman was the one prosecuting and she jumped up. I object your honor. I said, I do too, your honor. This is awful. He ought to be ashamed of himself
[36:31.080 --> 36:43.080] And the judge just ducked his head and put his head in his head and he, I know he's thinking, this prosecutor's first case and she gets dischumped
[36:43.080 --> 37:12.080] The judge found me guilty and charged me $10 and he was clearly saying, give my prosecutor a break. But at the time I didn't have time to fight it. But the point was clear. He wrote a citation. You can only do that if you personally see her here
[37:13.080 --> 37:27.080] Exactly. And that's an issue of competency, I guess the word is. And you're right, Randy, I'm going to bring that up when I get to trial. My thing is here. I haven't got there yet because this will be my third arraignment
[37:27.080 --> 37:45.080] Because I refuse to sign this sheet because I don't fully understand my rights and he keeps telling me to give it to an attorney and then when I do sign it, then he wants me to waive, it says right on here, waive his attorney rights for represented by an attorney under Rule 5, the Rules of Criminal Procedure
[37:45.080 --> 37:57.080] And I told him I'm not going to waive any rights, Your Honor, even if I do represent this myself, he goes, no, he goes, you need to get with your attorney and come back and realize that we're going to be in the same spot. I'm still not going to do it
[37:57.080 --> 38:17.080] Well, if you want me to have an attorney, hire one for me. I refuse to waive any rights and I'm not going to hire an attorney. I don't want one if you want me to have one, just go hire me one. See how that works
[38:18.080 --> 38:23.080] He can't force me to sign the sheet to waive my rights, though, for an attorney, right?
[38:23.080 --> 38:32.080] Right, and if you go back and they still won't have a hearing, bill him for your time
[38:33.080 --> 38:36.080] I want to do that, but I don't know how
[38:37.080 --> 38:38.080] To send him a bill
[38:39.080 --> 38:40.080] Send that to the clerk?
[38:41.080 --> 38:42.080] Yes, send it to the clerk
[38:43.080 --> 38:44.080] Or is this a municipality?
[38:45.080 --> 38:47.080] Order, do you bill the judge personally?
[38:48.080 --> 38:49.080] Wait a minute, is this a municipality?
[38:50.080 --> 38:51.080] It's a municipal court, yes
[38:51.080 --> 38:53.080] Send it to the city, send it to the city manager
[38:56.080 --> 38:57.080] City manager
[38:58.080 --> 39:06.080] Yeah, you came to have trial, the judge refused to, he wasted your time, bill him for your time
[39:08.080 --> 39:11.080] The city manager, not the court itself, not the municipal
[39:12.080 --> 39:15.080] No, the court is just a chump that works for the city manager
[39:18.080 --> 39:19.080] Okay
[39:19.080 --> 39:22.080] It's always, okay, think this way
[39:49.080 --> 39:51.080] Careful, what I'm wishing for
[39:52.080 --> 39:57.080] When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm wishing for
[39:58.080 --> 40:02.080] I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton
[40:04.080 --> 40:07.080] People are forcing them to repeatedly come to your court
[40:08.080 --> 40:11.080] And then you send them home and call them back again because you won't do your job
[40:12.080 --> 40:16.080] You can just be all self-righteously indignant with the city manager
[40:16.080 --> 40:22.080] And then he'll be all upset and he'll go to the mayor's ear and they'll both go to the judge's ear
[40:23.080 --> 40:24.080] Right
[40:25.080 --> 40:28.080] It's all about taking your money from you
[40:29.080 --> 40:33.080] Absolutely, it's revenue racket, they're highway men, that's what they are
[40:34.080 --> 40:36.080] Cost them more than they cost you
[40:37.080 --> 40:38.080] Go ahead
[40:38.080 --> 40:41.080] That's what I'm trying to do, that's why I always fight these tickets because court is expensive
[40:41.080 --> 40:47.080] And I figure, you know, if they're going to steal from me, I'm going to make it not so worth it to them
[40:48.080 --> 40:54.080] But what I was going to ask was if he's going to try to force me to sign this thing, how do I deal with this?
[40:55.080 --> 41:02.080] The only thing I know to say is, Your Honor, can you tell me a state law or somewhere in a constitution where I have to surrender any rights just because of...
[41:03.080 --> 41:07.080] No, no, wait, wait, that's okay, that kind of goes against my grain
[41:07.080 --> 41:11.080] Because I'm thinking in terms of the sovereign
[41:12.080 --> 41:21.080] And this, you know, when we go to school, we learn how to deal with public officials in school
[41:22.080 --> 41:27.080] And when we get out of school, we don't have a new model, so we tend to use the school model
[41:28.080 --> 41:30.080] I would ask my teacher to explain something to me
[41:30.080 --> 41:37.080] I'm not going to ask the judge to explain anything to me because he's going to tell me I can't give you legal advice and I'm going to tell him don't give me legal advice
[41:38.080 --> 41:42.080] If the judge tries to give me legal advice, I'll chastise him for that
[41:44.080 --> 41:47.080] So you're not here to give me legal advice, just do your job
[41:48.080 --> 41:51.080] You want me to waive my rights? I'm not waiving my rights
[41:52.080 --> 41:55.080] You got that? Is this hard to understand?
[41:55.080 --> 42:00.080] I was talking to an officer in Galveston, Texas
[42:01.080 --> 42:03.080] And I wanted to see some records and he asked me who I was with
[42:04.080 --> 42:06.080] I looked behind me, there's nobody back there
[42:07.080 --> 42:09.080] So he's talking to his boss, he asked me again
[42:10.080 --> 42:12.080] I said, I'm here in my personal capacity
[42:13.080 --> 42:17.080] And he talked a little while and he turned to me and he said, just who were you with?
[42:18.080 --> 42:21.080] And I leaned over the counter and stuck my face right in his and I said
[42:21.080 --> 42:31.080] What part of my personal capacity is hard for you to understand?
[42:32.080 --> 42:37.080] I am the sovereign, don't screw with me
[42:38.080 --> 42:40.080] Do your job
[42:41.080 --> 42:45.080] And he looked at me like, could I get away with shooting this guy?
[42:45.080 --> 42:52.080] But he didn't ask me that question again, he could see the press pass hanging on my pocket
[42:53.080 --> 42:58.080] So real quick Randy, as I hear about it, I've read the foregoing statement of rights and fully understand them
[42:59.080 --> 43:01.080] I don't even have to sign that there, correct?
[43:02.080 --> 43:04.080] Right, you don't have to, you can't force you to sign anything
[43:05.080 --> 43:06.080] Right
[43:07.080 --> 43:11.080] You're the one that's accusing me, you want to prosecute me
[43:11.080 --> 43:14.080] Don't ask me to help you prosecute me
[43:15.080 --> 43:16.080] Do your job
[43:17.080 --> 43:21.080] Absolutely, and the reason that I have a problem with the couple of these things is
[43:22.080 --> 43:24.080] First of all, he wants me to put a bond down the same amount as the ticket
[43:25.080 --> 43:27.080] And I got a problem with that for two reasons
[43:28.080 --> 43:31.080] Because number one, when they have the money, that's like a conflict of interest
[43:32.080 --> 43:34.080] They're not going to want to give it back
[43:35.080 --> 43:38.080] That's exactly right, I've never had them give money back
[43:38.080 --> 43:41.080] They'll just tell you heck with it, they won't give it back
[43:42.080 --> 43:44.080] Hang on, this is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig
[43:45.080 --> 43:49.080] We'll allow radio, I'll call it number 512-646-1984
[43:50.080 --> 43:54.080] We'll finish up with Chris, with Tyler on the other side, and we'll be going to George
[43:55.080 --> 43:57.080] Steve and Chris, we'll be right back
[44:00.080 --> 44:02.080] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit?
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[45:01.080 --> 45:09.080] The Oklahoma City bombing, top 10 reasons to question the official story, reason number one, John Doe number two, and other accomplices
[45:10.080 --> 45:16.080] On the day of the bombing, nearly all of the witnesses that saw Tim McVeigh and the writer Chuck report that he was accompanied by other perpetrators
[45:16.080 --> 45:24.080] The FBI and federal prosecutors insist that Tim McVeigh alone delivered the writer Chuck bomb to the Murrah building and detonated it
[45:25.080 --> 45:32.080] The only witness the government produced to place McVeigh at the building that morning, Dana Bradley, who lost her children in one of her legs in the bombing
[45:33.080 --> 45:38.080] Testified that she saw McVeigh with another man, the fateful John Doe number two, exiting the writer Chuck
[45:38.080 --> 45:50.080] While at least 15 other witnesses claim to have seen McVeigh with other perpetrators the day of the bombing, no less than 226 witnesses placed him with other men in the days before the bombing
[45:51.080 --> 45:56.080] Including when he rented the writer Chuck, and in some cases have positively identified the other perpetrators
[45:56.080 --> 46:11.080] For more information, please visit okcbombingtruth.com
[46:26.080 --> 46:35.080] I must be careful what I'm wishing for When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm wishing for
[46:36.080 --> 46:45.080] I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no-bloodin' I'm just here makin' my livin' pushin' buttons
[46:45.080 --> 46:58.080] I give my message out to anyone who's shoutin' distance I vote for bravery and against slavery showin' resistance
[46:59.080 --> 47:08.080] First I'm crawling, then I'm walkin', then I start struttin' I'm just so glad to make my livin' pushin' buttons
[47:08.080 --> 47:20.080] Whoa-oh-oh, whoa-oh-oh, whoa-oh-oh, yeah
[47:21.080 --> 47:26.080] We've set down to play monopoly, we all wanted to win the game
[47:27.080 --> 47:33.080] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debra Stephens, Eddy Craig, we live on our radio
[47:33.080 --> 47:40.360] And we're talking to Tyler in Wyoming, okay Tyler, we need to move along, we got some
[47:40.360 --> 47:44.600] callers who are probably getting impatient with me about now.
[47:44.600 --> 47:49.400] Yeah, I will hurry here, and yeah, I know there's another guy hanging on here.
[47:49.400 --> 47:54.160] My last main question was, I'd heard of a guy, and I talked to this guy, he said what
[47:54.160 --> 47:59.280] he would do for Gordon if he would make up an affidavit, and when the judge would ask
[47:59.280 --> 48:03.520] me any questions at all, it didn't matter, or the plea year, or it didn't matter what
[48:03.520 --> 48:08.680] the question was asked, all the guy would say is I stand on my affidavit, and he gave
[48:08.680 --> 48:12.200] me a format to follow with that, and I was going to ask your advice if that would be
[48:12.200 --> 48:19.080] a proper way maybe to ask, okay, what's the point of the affidavit?
[48:19.080 --> 48:26.680] Well, the affidavit basically, it just says that, you know, it gives the issues, the
[48:26.680 --> 48:32.040] facts to the case that the officer is not a competent witness, yet no authority to write
[48:32.040 --> 48:37.520] me down, that he was not there at the scene, there were also no witnesses that he talked
[48:37.520 --> 48:45.640] to, because the guy, the lady's husband, it chased the two of them there, and it just
[48:45.640 --> 48:50.920] basically gives a list of facts, and it said that, and it also might have things in it
[48:50.920 --> 48:54.760] that, you know, you can't be fine for such instances and different things like that.
[48:54.760 --> 48:59.120] Okay, hold on, hold on, this guy doesn't know what he's doing.
[48:59.120 --> 49:02.880] If you want to file a statement of facts, file a statement of facts.
[49:02.880 --> 49:11.120] If you want to file a request at the court, if you want to file a judicial notice, file
[49:11.120 --> 49:12.120] a judicial notice.
[49:12.120 --> 49:20.040] If you file a statement of facts, file a judicial notice to take notice of the law, of the ruling
[49:20.040 --> 49:21.040] law.
[49:21.040 --> 49:29.560] But an affidavit on its own, an affidavit is only filed as a statement of facts, and
[49:29.560 --> 49:34.000] it does nothing on its own.
[49:34.000 --> 49:39.080] The guys out there are advising people to file affidavits in lieu of motions, they won't
[49:39.080 --> 49:41.880] file motions, they won't only file affidavits.
[49:41.880 --> 49:48.240] Well if you don't ask the court to take an action, they can't take an action, an affidavit
[49:48.240 --> 49:52.760] on its own does nothing, it's just, at most, it's a statement of facts.
[49:52.760 --> 49:58.560] I've seen these things put out there by the legal reform community, but they don't understand
[49:58.560 --> 49:59.960] how the court works.
[49:59.960 --> 50:04.440] But what he says was, when you do motions, then you're getting into their jurisdiction
[50:04.440 --> 50:09.800] by motion, so that just keeps you out of it.
[50:09.800 --> 50:19.080] You cannot give a court jurisdiction if it does not have jurisdiction, period.
[50:19.080 --> 50:23.840] Okay, subject matter jurisdiction.
[50:23.840 --> 50:32.360] You can waive the issue of venue in personum jurisdiction.
[50:32.360 --> 50:38.200] But this is not what he's talking about, he's talking about subject matter jurisdiction.
[50:38.200 --> 50:43.760] The court must have subject matter jurisdiction over the issues.
[50:43.760 --> 50:48.480] Then they must have jurisdiction over you, and all they have to establish for jurisdiction
[50:48.480 --> 50:55.280] over you is that you are within the territorial limits of the jurisdiction of the court.
[50:55.280 --> 51:01.480] So the only jurisdiction you can effectively challenge is subject matter jurisdiction.
[51:01.480 --> 51:06.160] You can't give a court subject matter jurisdiction, there's nothing you can do to give a court
[51:06.160 --> 51:08.400] subject matter jurisdiction.
[51:08.400 --> 51:09.400] Either.
[51:09.400 --> 51:10.400] Either.
[51:10.400 --> 51:11.400] Go ahead.
[51:11.400 --> 51:16.520] Did I do a special appearance?
[51:16.520 --> 51:23.280] You would do a special appearance in order to do a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[51:23.280 --> 51:24.800] That's a special appearance.
[51:24.800 --> 51:31.240] A challenge to subject matter jurisdiction is not a motion, it's a pleading.
[51:31.240 --> 51:37.120] And it can be made at any time, it's made at arm's length to the court.
[51:37.120 --> 51:40.600] It's saying the court doesn't have jurisdiction.
[51:40.600 --> 51:43.640] You can't give it to the court.
[51:43.640 --> 51:46.000] You can't waive subject matter jurisdiction.
[51:46.000 --> 51:53.400] You can't say, okay, you can rule over this case, I'm going to grant you jurisdiction.
[51:53.400 --> 51:56.520] You can't do that, period.
[51:56.520 --> 52:03.360] These guys that have been promoting this legal fiction don't understand how the law works.
[52:03.360 --> 52:07.520] It's a frustration to me because I deal with this a lot.
[52:07.520 --> 52:12.880] The court assumes jurisdiction also, how do you get out of that?
[52:12.880 --> 52:15.240] They assume subject matter jurisdiction.
[52:15.240 --> 52:19.520] You can challenge that, but you can't give it to them.
[52:19.520 --> 52:21.080] Okay.
[52:21.080 --> 52:29.400] If you don't directly challenge it, then if you don't ever bring up the issue, they'll
[52:29.400 --> 52:33.880] just act like they have jurisdiction and move ahead.
[52:33.880 --> 52:37.480] Real quick here, the last time I did that, when I said I'll judge an appearance, especially
[52:37.480 --> 52:43.240] you said special appearance denied, so that was the end of that, you know?
[52:43.240 --> 52:54.120] Okay, what you say is, you haven't heard the special appearance, most special appearance
[52:54.120 --> 53:01.960] pleading and have denied it already, stand down from the bench.
[53:01.960 --> 53:08.400] You are disqualified because you have denied me and my right to petition the court for
[53:08.400 --> 53:13.720] redress of grievance and denied me in my right to the equal protection of law.
[53:13.720 --> 53:19.040] Stand down from that bench and cause to be appointed a fair jurist that I have a right
[53:19.040 --> 53:22.680] to in the first instance.
[53:22.680 --> 53:29.800] You have not lived until you've asked the bailiff to drag the judge down off the bench.
[53:29.800 --> 53:34.200] I did that three times in one hearing in Temple, Texas.
[53:34.200 --> 53:36.200] It was such a hoot.
[53:36.200 --> 53:43.600] So, it denied me the right of redress of grievance, so what was the other, deep process?
[53:43.600 --> 53:45.600] Well, the equal protection of the laws.
[53:45.600 --> 53:47.600] Oh, yeah, equal protection, okay.
[53:47.600 --> 53:50.440] All right, Randy, I know you've got other callers.
[53:50.440 --> 53:55.600] I just wanted to speak for your program and your help here, so.
[53:55.600 --> 54:01.760] Okay, thank you, and if you appreciate our program, we would sure appreciate some donations
[54:01.760 --> 54:05.560] for trying to get enough to upgrade our equipment.
[54:05.560 --> 54:10.920] And I do have the emails for everybody who's donated here recently, I'm going to be sending
[54:10.920 --> 54:16.840] you an email to get a correct mailing address so I can send you some of my super soap.
[54:16.840 --> 54:23.400] And anybody who donates, I will be sending super soap until I run out unless I get some
[54:23.400 --> 54:24.960] more and then I'll keep sending it.
[54:24.960 --> 54:28.640] Okay, we're going to go to George in Texas.
[54:28.640 --> 54:29.640] Hello.
[54:29.640 --> 54:33.280] Sorry to hang you up so long, George.
[54:33.280 --> 54:35.640] I understand you have a towing issue.
[54:35.640 --> 54:40.200] Yeah, it's very similar to Chris's earlier.
[54:40.200 --> 54:46.080] He, I guess let me just sort of briefly explain.
[54:46.080 --> 54:56.160] I live in an apartment complex and the manager's office contracted with a company to repaint
[54:56.160 --> 54:59.120] the lines in the parking lot.
[54:59.120 --> 55:08.640] And 24 hours before they did it, they stuck papers in people's doors along the place and
[55:08.640 --> 55:14.560] people who didn't move their car out of the parking lot got their cars towed.
[55:14.560 --> 55:15.760] And I was one of those people.
[55:15.760 --> 55:22.400] I never saw my supposed notice, so my car got towed.
[55:22.400 --> 55:30.680] And I looked at the law or the statutes, of course, and it was just the same one that
[55:30.680 --> 55:34.120] Chris was talking about, 2308.
[55:34.120 --> 55:44.800] And it talks about when they have Subtractor F on authorized vehicles and when they can
[55:44.800 --> 55:49.280] tow an unattended vehicle and all that.
[55:49.280 --> 55:53.120] And with the notices they have to give and blah, blah, blah.
[55:53.120 --> 55:58.240] And they didn't meet that because they didn't stick it on my car and they were also supposed
[55:58.240 --> 56:03.120] to mail me something and they didn't do that, obviously, and they shouldn't give 15 days
[56:03.120 --> 56:05.280] of notice that they're supposed to.
[56:05.280 --> 56:17.280] So anyway, today I was paying rent and I paid them less, the towing charges, but they didn't
[56:17.280 --> 56:24.320] want to let me be able to do that, so now I am basically, I need to recover that cost
[56:24.320 --> 56:25.960] through the court's amount.
[56:25.960 --> 56:31.360] Yes, you need to file in a JP court.
[56:31.360 --> 56:33.240] JP's court, okay.
[56:33.240 --> 56:42.960] You should move to recover three times the amount of the tow at least and the cost for
[56:42.960 --> 56:50.240] having to sue them, I would look at filing the maximum you're allowed to in a JP court.
[56:50.240 --> 56:57.000] And you might look at filing actions against the towing company, also name the towing company
[56:57.000 --> 57:01.840] in your suit and kind of lean on them.
[57:01.840 --> 57:05.080] If it's not a bunch of money, they're likely to come to you and say, okay, let's make
[57:05.080 --> 57:07.040] a deal, make this go away.
[57:07.040 --> 57:08.040] Okay.
[57:08.040 --> 57:15.680] And the other thing that I heard you mention the other day is something about, like they
[57:15.680 --> 57:20.720] told me that they towed 20 other cars, so and you said some, there was some term you
[57:20.720 --> 57:21.720] used then.
[57:21.720 --> 57:30.600] Attorney, a private attorney general's suit, okay, here's something you can do that might
[57:30.600 --> 57:34.000] make this whole thing go away for you.
[57:34.000 --> 57:41.960] There's under Texas law, we have, I think it's 281 of the rules of civil procedure that
[57:41.960 --> 57:48.320] allow for pre litigation discovery.
[57:48.320 --> 57:55.640] You can send them pre litigation discovery and ask them to give you an accounting of
[57:55.640 --> 58:01.640] all of the cars that were towed at this time.
[58:01.640 --> 58:06.440] And that will, if they've got a smart attorney that'll tell them this guy's preparing a private
[58:06.440 --> 58:09.920] attorney general's suit, he's going to sue you for all of them.
[58:09.920 --> 58:13.240] And it might get them to come to you and make a deal.
[58:13.240 --> 58:14.240] Hang on.
[58:14.240 --> 58:19.280] This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephens, Eddie Craig, we're going to our top of the hour
[58:19.280 --> 58:20.280] break.
[58:20.280 --> 58:26.240] We've got one more hour left, so if you have a question or a comment, give us a call.
[58:26.240 --> 58:32.640] Our number is 512-646-1984.
[58:32.640 --> 58:36.680] Steve, Chris, I see you there, we will pick you up when we come back on the other side
[58:36.680 --> 58:50.600] as soon as we finish with George here, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:05.360] Quick, clench your fists.
[01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.120] A military contractor has developed a scanner that can read your fingerprints from a distance.
[01:00:10.120 --> 01:00:14.960] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and if being remotely fingerprinted gives you the chills, you won't
[01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.840] want to miss my next segment.
[01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:19.560] Privacy is under attack.
[01:00:19.560 --> 01:00:23.160] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:28.160] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:33.600] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[01:00:33.600 --> 01:00:35.960] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:00:47.200 --> 01:00:49.840] Fingerprints have always been associated with crime scenes.
[01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:55.000] But now, thanks to a military contractor called ID Air, we may all soon surrender our prints
[01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:59.200] to big brother-like scanners everywhere without even knowing it's happening.
[01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:04.720] ID Air's devices capture images of fingerprints from 20 feet away with enough detail to match
[01:01:04.720 --> 01:01:06.720] the prints and databases.
[01:01:06.720 --> 01:01:10.640] At the moment, they're scanning soldiers at high-security bases, but they envision a
[01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:16.120] day when these long-range snoops will be everywhere, in stores, office buildings, on public streets
[01:01:16.120 --> 01:01:17.720] and in the hands of police.
[01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:22.240] Imagine the feds, marketers and stalkers all grabbing your prints as you stroll down
[01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:23.240] the street.
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[01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:38.360] Google and Apple are at it again, this time with spy claims that can photograph objects
[01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:39.360] as small as iPhones.
[01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:44.800] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and if the thought of an airborne camera leering at your backyard
[01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.720] creeps you out, stay tuned.
[01:01:47.720 --> 01:01:49.440] Privacy is under attack.
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[01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:58.040] is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:01:58.040 --> 01:02:03.200] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
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[01:02:16.640 --> 01:02:20.680] The next time you go sunbathing in your backyard, check the sky first.
[01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:25.760] Google or Apple may have spy planes with cameras buzzing overhead, and they could be filming
[01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:26.760] you.
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[01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:32.200] your head.
[01:02:32.200 --> 01:02:37.600] And Apple has military-grade cameras so powerful they can spy into your home through skylights
[01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:39.120] and windows.
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[01:02:44.080 --> 01:02:45.080] satellite images.
[01:02:45.080 --> 01:02:47.080] But who really needs this?
[01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:51.360] I say we need to shut down Google's big eyes before there's no place left to hide from
[01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:52.360] the watchers.
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[01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:31.800] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, and we were talking to George
[01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:38.360] in Texas, if you heard a little stuff at the front, I asked Chris, what were we talking
[01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:39.360] about with George?
[01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:45.040] Just as we came in, I was just pulling on a call screen or a producer's chain a little
[01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:48.800] bit, and it scooted over the air.
[01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:52.520] My bad, that's what I get for jerking around the producer.
[01:03:52.520 --> 01:03:56.760] Okay, go ahead, George.
[01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:04.440] You were talking about, you know, we're looking at, you know, I'm always now thinking of politics.
[01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:13.720] And if you want to address your issue, if you just want to punish them, that's one thing.
[01:04:13.720 --> 01:04:17.840] But if you have an outcome and I got the impression from what you're saying, you want the money
[01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:26.160] it cost you, return to you, well, did it only cost you money?
[01:04:26.160 --> 01:04:29.520] Is your time free?
[01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:34.600] If it is, I've got a yard that needs mowing.
[01:04:34.600 --> 01:04:38.960] If it's not free, you should charge them for that too.
[01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:47.120] But look at it and say, okay, how can I give them the best reason to come and make me a
[01:04:47.120 --> 01:04:48.120] deal?
[01:04:48.120 --> 01:04:54.960] Now, if I get in your face and tell you, you know, good rotten scum, you owe me X amount
[01:04:54.960 --> 01:05:02.040] of dollars, you pay me this much money, I'm going to tend to resist you.
[01:05:02.040 --> 01:05:09.680] The way we get people to do things we want them to do is we create pressures.
[01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:13.920] If they're too direct, people tend to resist.
[01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:20.400] But one of the things I like to do is do things on the periphery.
[01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:27.320] If I tell you I'm going to do something, you're not likely to believe me.
[01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:32.600] But if I start doing stuff and you start looking at it and say, what in the heck is this chump
[01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:35.000] up to?
[01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.960] And you look at what I'm doing and you come to the conclusion that I'm going to do a certain
[01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.120] thing, you're going to believe that.
[01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:47.240] It's going to be compelling for you in a way that me telling you I was going to do that
[01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:51.120] would not be compelling.
[01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:58.320] I realize this is a bit more subtle and it's not something in civil society that we're
[01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.880] accustomed to doing, which generally not so circumspect.
[01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:04.200] But this is not civil behavior.
[01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:08.080] This is legal behavior and it's different.
[01:06:08.080 --> 01:06:14.720] So let's look at what the pressures are and how we can organize those pressures in a way
[01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:19.160] to get these guys to want to give us what we want.
[01:06:19.160 --> 01:06:24.800] So if they tell a whole bunch of cars on the same day and you come in and you can show
[01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:30.480] that the towing wasn't proper.
[01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:36.600] And then if you go after them, you're a piece, you're a chump, you're easy to fight, they're
[01:06:36.600 --> 01:06:37.600] not going to worry about it.
[01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:42.000] You know what they got to lose, a few bucks, big deal.
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:47.080] But if you do some things before you go after them, you've already indicated that you're
[01:06:47.080 --> 01:06:52.280] not happy with your car being towed and them charging you this money.
[01:06:52.280 --> 01:07:01.200] If you send them a request for a list of all of the cars that were towed on that day, what
[01:07:01.200 --> 01:07:07.200] they're likely to do is say, the heck with you, I'm not going to send you that.
[01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:08.880] So we hope they do.
[01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:15.280] But what are they going to be thinking?
[01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:21.080] Why does he want all of that?
[01:07:21.080 --> 01:07:24.640] What is that chump planning?
[01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:35.400] And then you might talk to some of your other tenants and start asking if the car was towed.
[01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:42.440] And one thing that will happen is management will find out you're asking.
[01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:50.280] And that will give them the idea that you're setting up a suit against them, but you hadn't
[01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.400] threatened them with a suit.
[01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:59.720] Well, actually, I did in my, when I paid my rent, I, like, did it yesterday.
[01:07:59.720 --> 01:08:04.360] Well, I mean, if you just said, yeah, give me my money back, I'll see you.
[01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.200] You're going to hear that stuff all the time.
[01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:10.000] And even so, now they know that you have that in your mind.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:11.000] That's okay.
[01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.480] Now you start doing things that look like you're preparing for the suit.
[01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.080] You haven't filed against them yet.
[01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:23.720] Once you file against them, they're going to feel like they have to fight you back.
[01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:28.360] And if they hire an attorney, an attorney is not going to want to be embarrassed by losing
[01:08:28.360 --> 01:08:34.240] to a pro say, so he will fight you unusually hard.
[01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:41.320] If you just want an outcome, and if you were listening earlier or yesterday, we talked about
[01:08:41.320 --> 01:08:49.640] that in the end, at the end of the day, what is it that you want to achieve?
[01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.160] Now that's a rhetorical question.
[01:08:52.160 --> 01:08:57.240] Get a pencil, get a piece of paper and write it down.
[01:08:57.240 --> 01:09:03.240] This is about setting specific goals.
[01:09:03.240 --> 01:09:07.880] What do you want to achieve?
[01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:14.520] That's important because if you don't know where you're going, you will probably wind
[01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:16.560] up somewhere else.
[01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:23.240] If you write down, this is what I, this is how much money I want them to pay me.
[01:09:23.240 --> 01:09:30.440] Write it down on a piece of paper to say, okay, now what can I do to get them to want
[01:09:30.440 --> 01:09:34.400] to pay me that money without getting in a fight with me?
[01:09:34.400 --> 01:09:37.920] Think about it from that perspective.
[01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:41.000] This is chess, it's my checkers.
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:42.000] This is politics.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:43.840] How do we create a little politics?
[01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:48.720] How do we create anxiety, concern, fear of loss?
[01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:56.040] And for these guys, fear of loss of money, if the manager of the apartment is not the
[01:09:56.040 --> 01:10:05.560] owner of the apartment, the manager of the apartment is going to fear having to answer
[01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:11.760] to the owner or to the people above them, if it's a big corporation, the bigger the
[01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.840] corporation, the better.
[01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:22.080] Because the more the manager has to answer questions to these guys, the more of a liability
[01:10:22.080 --> 01:10:29.840] he becomes because these guys expect the manager to make these kind of problems go away.
[01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:31.560] Fix it.
[01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:35.160] If you can't fix it, we'll get somebody who can.
[01:10:35.160 --> 01:10:42.120] So how do you get the manager worried about what's coming at him?
[01:10:42.120 --> 01:10:50.200] Maybe send a letter to corporate and ask who their counsel is.
[01:10:50.200 --> 01:10:54.240] And they're going to say, why does he want to know who our attorney is?
[01:10:54.240 --> 01:10:57.960] It's always better to get them not knowing what you're doing.
[01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:02.600] Because what they imagine you're going to do is always going to be much, much worse
[01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.440] than anything you would actually do.
[01:11:05.440 --> 01:11:08.720] Does this all make sense?
[01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:09.720] Yes.
[01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:16.240] And you said to ask for a list of the cars they took, but are you talking about should
[01:11:16.240 --> 01:11:21.600] I do that to both the complex and the telling company, since I'm naming them both?
[01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:22.600] Yeah, absolutely.
[01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.760] Do it to both of them.
[01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:28.680] And you want both of them to refuse to tell you.
[01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.000] And this is important.
[01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.920] This is chess.
[01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:40.960] Whenever you ask somebody to do something, make sure you've done your homework and planning
[01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:45.720] because you really want them not to do it.
[01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:55.560] So only ask them to do things that whereby if they do not do it, then you get to take
[01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:00.320] the next step or you get a claim against them.
[01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:07.480] You ask them for a list of all of their, the people who were told that day and they refuse.
[01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:16.320] Then you go and then you prepare a request for pre-litigation discovery.
[01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:20.200] And when the lawyer gets the pre-litigation, you send it to them, they're going to send
[01:12:20.200 --> 01:12:21.760] it to the lawyer.
[01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:29.520] And that tells the lawyer, you can say, I tried to get this through a civil remedy by
[01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:35.560] a simple request and they refuse, therefore I'm requesting it under pre-litigation discovery.
[01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:40.360] That's you just turning up the heat a little bit.
[01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:43.080] And that's what you wanted to be able to do to start with.
[01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:46.520] That's why you don't want them to give you what you're asking for.
[01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:51.800] And now you get to send a message to their lawyers and you're preparing to sue them.
[01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:58.880] And because the lawyer has probably never seen a request for pre-litigation discovery
[01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:05.160] before, he's going to have to go look it up.
[01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:07.280] And you know what that's going to tell him about?
[01:13:07.280 --> 01:13:14.040] You, he's going to think, who is this guy that's giving me something I have to look
[01:13:14.040 --> 01:13:17.360] up that I've never seen before?
[01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:24.840] And you want to give them the impression you're preparing a private attorney general suit.
[01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:29.320] Now private attorney general suit is not something that's defined in law.
[01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:37.120] It's just a term that the courts have developed to describe a certain type of suit that is
[01:13:37.120 --> 01:13:40.400] allowed in law.
[01:13:40.400 --> 01:13:50.400] And that type of suit is a suit where you're suing over an issue that is of so low an amount
[01:13:50.400 --> 01:13:56.440] that it would cost you far more to sue than you could recover.
[01:13:56.440 --> 01:14:03.160] So therefore, under a private attorney general suit, you may sue for recovery based on the
[01:14:03.160 --> 01:14:11.800] harm to you and all others similarly situated.
[01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:18.600] When you ask for a list of all of the people they told that day, if that gets to their
[01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:24.000] lawyer, he's going to look at that and he's going to think private attorney general suit.
[01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.600] This guy's going to try to sue us for all of them.
[01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.200] He's going to know immediately what you're doing.
[01:14:32.200 --> 01:14:37.320] But you haven't threatened him with it.
[01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:39.760] So he still has plausible deniability.
[01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:46.840] He can tell these guys, settle with this guy or this is going to cost us a lot of money.
[01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:54.280] You want to give the lawyer what he needs to be able to tell these guys to settle.
[01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:59.000] The original letter won't do it when you come back with pre-litigation discovery, the lawyer's
[01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:03.920] going to go to the boss and say, this guy's fixing to file a suit for all of these people
[01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.400] that you told that day.
[01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:10.240] If we win the case, you will lose big time.
[01:15:10.240 --> 01:15:16.760] There's no way the court's going to give you attorney fees against this guy.
[01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:21.440] And if they do, you'll never be able to collect it.
[01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:27.200] Lot cheaper just to pay him three, four, five hundred bucks, make this thing go away.
[01:15:27.200 --> 01:15:32.480] Cost you more net for me to write first reading.
[01:15:32.480 --> 01:15:35.280] Nobody wins their case because the law and the facts are on their side.
[01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:39.240] They win your case because politics and the money is on their side.
[01:15:39.240 --> 01:15:44.720] If it's going to cost you more money to fight me than just to write me a check, you'll write
[01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.960] me a check, it's a money calculation.
[01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:56.160] So look at making a money calculation form and don't threaten, don't get in their face,
[01:15:56.160 --> 01:16:00.560] lay stuff in front of them that'll get them to come to the conclusion you want them to
[01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:01.560] come to.
[01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:02.560] Does that make sense?
[01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.560] Yes, it does.
[01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:04.560] Okay.
[01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:05.560] Thank you very much.
[01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:06.560] Do you have any other questions or comments?
[01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:07.560] We do have to move along.
[01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:08.560] Got a bunch of callers.
[01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:15.560] Never running out of time.
[01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.280] Thank you very much.
[01:16:18.280 --> 01:16:19.280] Thank you, George.
[01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:20.280] Okay.
[01:16:20.280 --> 01:16:24.320] Now we're going to go to Steve in Tejas.
[01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:26.720] Hola, Steve.
[01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:28.880] What do you have for us today?
[01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:30.680] Hello, Randy.
[01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:31.680] Actually.
[01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:36.160] Oh, well, Steve, you've used up all your time.
[01:16:36.160 --> 01:16:41.520] Sorry, you're only waiting two hours and you got your three seconds.
[01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:42.520] Just kidding.
[01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:43.520] Okay.
[01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:44.520] We're about to go to break.
[01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:45.520] We'll be right back.
[01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:49.880] I'll pick you up when we get back on the other side and thank you for being so patient
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[01:19:49.160 --> 01:20:15.840] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craven, and we are talking to Steve
[01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:16.840] in Texas.
[01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:23.120] Okay, Steve, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:20:23.120 --> 01:20:30.400] Waiting two hours, it's been more like four years to call in, but on the phone it's been
[01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:39.560] whatever, how many minutes, I've actually listened to your entire WTPR and archive live
[01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.480] and I remember your first show.
[01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:47.280] Wait a minute, you remember the first show?
[01:20:47.280 --> 01:20:54.720] Oh my God, that was just incredible, I mean, you weren't you then.
[01:20:54.720 --> 01:21:04.880] I was, you know, that was the first radio show I ever did and you didn't listen either.
[01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:15.680] I sat here in front of a microphone for two hours talking to air, that was incredibly
[01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:16.680] difficult.
[01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:26.280] Oh yeah, it was you, Deborah, and this other guy, and I forget his name, and it was just,
[01:21:26.280 --> 01:21:33.240] well, I taught you in the middle live on WTPRN and thank you, Deborah, for taking over Rula
[01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:41.720] Blanc, I tuned in and out and, you know, man, you guys, especially you, Deborah.
[01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:48.000] But yeah, I always go back to the first episode and listening to you get your leg talking
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:56.520] on the radio, it was great, it was wonderful, but I really regret because I'm here calling
[01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:01.880] in a case that you've been talking about for quite some time, at least Rula La Radio has
[01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:09.360] been talking about it this week, and I guess it started on Eddie's show on Tuesday night.
[01:22:09.360 --> 01:22:19.080] Now Tuesday night Chuck called in, Chuck Smith, and right now he's in jail because of a case
[01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:23.360] that Tammy had, and I happened to be a reporter.
[01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:32.600] I somehow became a reporter and I have, you know, multiple media outlets or whatever where
[01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:39.680] I talk about stuff, so I've gone to a few, you know, interesting trials, and I do attribute
[01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:44.440] that to you and your crazy song and dance and felt certain in their pants and all that
[01:22:44.440 --> 01:22:45.440] other stuff.
[01:22:45.440 --> 01:22:55.440] So I want to talk to you about my version of Tammy Smith's and Chuck Smith's BOOHAHA,
[01:22:55.440 --> 01:22:57.960] should I say.
[01:22:57.960 --> 01:22:58.960] Where do I start?
[01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:08.960] So I went down to Crowley, Texas, I wasn't actually Crowley, Texas, I have to go back
[01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:20.840] there, I know, on a little scatterbrain, Parker County, and I was just an observer.
[01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:29.400] Now the difference in this case, in the other case, is I've gone to a few pro-state type
[01:23:29.400 --> 01:23:37.680] hearings, but I immediately walked into the court and the judge said, who are you, why
[01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.000] are you here?
[01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:42.000] And I was...
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:46.280] Hold on, hold on, why are you here?
[01:23:46.280 --> 01:23:47.480] Yes.
[01:23:47.480 --> 01:23:50.000] What was your answer?
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:59.560] I said, I'm with the media and I'm monitoring.
[01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:06.920] I would file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge for the question.
[01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:11.520] I have a pat answer when they ask me why I'm here.
[01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:18.800] Does that change if my recollection of that differs from the official work, well, the
[01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:21.800] words that I spoke?
[01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:25.840] This is the good part, no it doesn't.
[01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:26.840] It's your recollection.
[01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:35.080] If you come into the courtroom, why you're there is none of their business.
[01:24:35.080 --> 01:24:40.320] When they ask me why I'm there, I tell them the same thing every time.
[01:24:40.320 --> 01:24:43.320] You're going to love it.
[01:24:43.320 --> 01:24:44.320] Right.
[01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:45.320] Entertainment.
[01:24:45.320 --> 01:24:52.680] They look at me with this look that says, so you're not going to tell me, and I look
[01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:59.840] back with this look, no I'm not, and you're not to ask again.
[01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:05.800] You're there, you have a right to be there, and it's none of his business.
[01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:11.480] I remember that now as I've gone through this week for a fresher of Rural Law Radio.
[01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:19.360] I tuned into a couple days ago, I caught the second half hour on the train back from there,
[01:25:19.360 --> 01:25:23.440] and I was ecstatic that they were talking to you guys.
[01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:28.160] I'm like, are you serious, ready to tell them, but I totally regret.
[01:25:28.160 --> 01:25:34.280] I do have a little bit of hero worship going on, and I've followed some of your exploits,
[01:25:34.280 --> 01:25:40.840] but I find myself, I'm not part of this case, right, but as an independent journalist, I
[01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:49.520] go in there and I find myself a subject within the trial on multiple points, including the
[01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:57.080] point where the judge dragged me up and asked me if I was actually videotaping the trial,
[01:25:57.080 --> 01:26:05.360] and I just wanted to get a lot of opinions from you as how we should deal with these
[01:26:05.360 --> 01:26:12.000] kind of situations, because I'm finding myself in them more and more.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:18.360] When I come into a courtroom, does it matter what kind of courtroom I come into, so I can
[01:26:18.360 --> 01:26:24.320] come into a traffic courtroom and report on that, and I'm just a fly on the wall.
[01:26:24.320 --> 01:26:30.080] I come into, let's say, a civil courtroom.
[01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:32.120] I've seemed to be a fly on the wall.
[01:26:32.120 --> 01:26:38.880] As soon as I walk into this family courtroom, this judge says, why are you here?
[01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:45.120] Now I understand because I look different.
[01:26:45.120 --> 01:26:46.800] I lost my luggage.
[01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:52.680] I had sweatpants on and the sweatshirt on, and everybody else had to.
[01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:54.800] Is that it?
[01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:59.520] He doesn't have the right to ask me who I am and why I'm there.
[01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:01.520] Is that what you're saying?
[01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:10.200] Actually he can ask you anything he wants, but you need to remember you are the sovereign.
[01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:13.480] He is the servant.
[01:27:13.480 --> 01:27:15.480] You don't have to answer.
[01:27:15.480 --> 01:27:23.480] I went into a courtroom in Tarrant County in the jail building.
[01:27:23.480 --> 01:27:28.000] I was bailing a guy out, and I'm waiting for him to get him, and they had a courtroom
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:34.000] there, so I just went in and sat down and started taking some notes.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.920] This bailiff come over, this ball-headed bailiff.
[01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:40.600] He said, excuse me, who are you?
[01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:42.840] I said, I'm Randall Kelton.
[01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:45.440] Well, why are you here?
[01:27:45.440 --> 01:27:50.040] None of your business get lost, and I go back to writing.
[01:27:50.040 --> 01:27:51.440] He didn't take that well.
[01:27:51.440 --> 01:27:54.320] I want to know why you're here.
[01:27:54.320 --> 01:27:57.640] And I stood up in the courtroom and the judge is having a hearing.
[01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:05.080] Your Honor, your Honor, as the judge looked up startled, what's going on here?
[01:28:05.080 --> 01:28:09.480] Your Honor, can you get this bulldog off of me?
[01:28:09.480 --> 01:28:17.680] And I thought this bailiff was going to have apoplexy, and the bailiff spun around and
[01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.520] said, Your Honor, this man won't tell me why he's in this courtroom.
[01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.320] And the judge said, who are you?
[01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:27.040] And I said, well, I'm Randall Kelton.
[01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:31.440] Well, you mind if I ask why you're in my courtroom?
[01:28:31.440 --> 01:28:33.960] Well, I don't mind at all.
[01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:35.160] And he got it.
[01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:39.360] He said, well, why are you in my courtroom?
[01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:40.360] It's entertainment.
[01:28:40.360 --> 01:28:43.880] And the judge said, oh, you're here for entertainment.
[01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:46.720] I said, Your Honor, this is my form of entertainment.
[01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:52.520] He turned to the bailiff and said, well, leave him alone.
[01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:58.320] Well, Randy, do you have to say entertainment or do you have to identify a reason?
[01:28:58.320 --> 01:29:01.480] Did you just say, no, I don't mind?
[01:29:01.480 --> 01:29:04.680] Well, if you tell him no, you don't mind.
[01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:08.240] You can tell him, yeah, I'm mind if some of your business.
[01:29:08.240 --> 01:29:13.080] And you don't have to ask, actually, you don't have to ask at all.
[01:29:13.080 --> 01:29:15.520] But it's in polite society.
[01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.760] It's certainly polite to give him an answer.
[01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:21.160] But I try to give him an answer that's not an answer.
[01:29:21.160 --> 01:29:23.960] And that's why I use entertainment.
[01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:30.240] Or you could say, well, I'm here preparing a white paper on judicial corruption.
[01:29:30.240 --> 01:29:33.240] Got a problem?
[01:29:33.240 --> 01:29:36.760] It doesn't matter what you say to him.
[01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:40.640] So long as you remind him that you're the solvent, the servant.
[01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:41.640] Hang on.
[01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:42.640] This is Randy Kelton.
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[01:32:25.440 --> 01:32:36.960] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debra Steven, Betty Craig, the Little Ball Radio and Steve
[01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:46.120] on the break, Debra and I had a conversation about whether we thought it was a good idea
[01:32:46.120 --> 01:32:52.960] to tell the judge that we're with the media and I'm not sure.
[01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:59.560] I go in sometimes with my press pass on and the judge can't take his eyes off my press
[01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:00.560] pass.
[01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:01.560] It makes him crazy.
[01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:08.600] I talked earlier about, I told this deputy in Galveston that I was there in my personal
[01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:14.840] capacity but I had my press pass on and it made him nuts.
[01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.440] He kept staring at that press pass and I never admitted I was with the press.
[01:33:18.440 --> 01:33:21.360] It really made him crazy.
[01:33:21.360 --> 01:33:27.080] But then when I do go in with a press pass on, it really tends to get the judge's attention.
[01:33:27.080 --> 01:33:32.800] So is it a good idea to tell them, is it not a good idea?
[01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:33.800] I don't know.
[01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:34.800] I don't know.
[01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:39.400] In this case, I didn't tell them and the only reason I told them is because he asked.
[01:33:39.400 --> 01:33:43.520] But I usually make a judgment call when I go in.
[01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:48.760] In this case, I made sure I had it when I went in and I made sure they could see it
[01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:55.200] but I didn't announce it and so it would be on my person and they would discover it
[01:33:55.200 --> 01:33:58.240] as they were dealing with me.
[01:33:58.240 --> 01:34:01.880] That's kind of one of the ways that I like to deal with it and then all of a sudden they
[01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:06.600] go, oh, he's prickly, chill out, right?
[01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:12.160] And I don't go in flaunting it but he caught me off guard when I announced, well, I was
[01:34:12.160 --> 01:34:13.160] caught off guard.
[01:34:13.160 --> 01:34:16.720] I've never been, you know, called on it.
[01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:27.600] Okay, you gave me an idea, Parker County's not far from me and I may just go down there
[01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:33.200] and walk into his courtroom with my press pass.
[01:34:33.200 --> 01:34:36.560] I went into a courtroom in Williamson County.
[01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:43.880] Williamson County is known to be the most corrupt in Texas or at least has that reputation.
[01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:48.320] Alex Jones will not drive into Williamson County.
[01:34:48.320 --> 01:34:52.520] He'll drive 20 miles to go around Williamson County.
[01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:58.560] I went into a courtroom in Williamson County and just after I had talked to the clerk and
[01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:04.080] asked for some records that weren't there and then I went to the district attorney and
[01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:08.200] put in an information request for those records and I kind of give them a little bit of a
[01:35:08.200 --> 01:35:09.200] tough time.
[01:35:09.200 --> 01:35:15.840] I went and sat down in the courtroom and right up by the bar and I was taking notes.
[01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:22.640] I asked the judge to, I asked the bailiff what the judge's name was and I wrote it down
[01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:27.400] and this young prosecutor came over and said, sir, sir, and I looked up at him and I said,
[01:35:27.400 --> 01:35:28.400] yes.
[01:35:28.400 --> 01:35:29.400] Do you have a case here today?
[01:35:29.400 --> 01:35:30.400] Oh, no, no, no, no.
[01:35:30.400 --> 01:35:36.600] And I go back to writing and he stood there a second, sir, sir, do you have a civil case
[01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:37.600] in this court?
[01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:38.600] Oh, no, no, no, no.
[01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:39.600] I wasn't up there.
[01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:40.600] I go back to writing.
[01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.200] He stands there a minute.
[01:35:43.200 --> 01:35:47.680] He says, sir, sir, and I look up at him and held up both hands with my palms out and I
[01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:50.200] said, no more questions.
[01:35:50.200 --> 01:35:52.920] I turned back and started writing.
[01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:58.920] He stood there for a minute and then he just kind of drifted away.
[01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:03.560] And then an older guy, they were having one of these just make a deal hearings, who was
[01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:07.800] obviously the prosecutor came over and leaned over the bar and said, sir, sir, and I looked
[01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:10.000] up at him and said, yes.
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:17.200] And I had asked where I could get an appearance for this hearing and the bailiff had told
[01:36:17.200 --> 01:36:18.200] me I could get it downstairs.
[01:36:18.200 --> 01:36:20.600] And this guy said, sir, sir, and I said, yes.
[01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:22.560] He said, if you need a appearance, talk it.
[01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.040] You can get one downstairs.
[01:36:25.040 --> 01:36:28.400] Clearly he's trying to engage me in conversation.
[01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:30.080] I said, oh, well, thank you.
[01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:32.560] The bailiff already told me that I'm good.
[01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:33.560] And I go back to writing.
[01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:40.240] I said, sir, sir, and I look up, I said, yes, is there something I can do for you?
[01:36:40.240 --> 01:36:46.280] If there is, I will summon you and I go back to writing.
[01:36:46.280 --> 01:36:52.160] The guy I was there with, they dismissed his case.
[01:36:52.160 --> 01:36:54.720] They gave him his bail money back.
[01:36:54.720 --> 01:37:00.320] They took him to the judge and got the judge to sign the order immediately.
[01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:05.760] When you don't tell them why you're there, it makes them crazy.
[01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:12.200] I really like, when they ask me why I'm there, to give them some really BS reason that they
[01:37:12.200 --> 01:37:17.720] know it's absolutely hogwash.
[01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:18.720] Makes them crazy.
[01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:27.120] I think you've said that same statement over and over again, but I haven't been listening
[01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:32.640] to you guys, and it wasn't until Tammy dragged me in here, or actually I believe Chuck pointed
[01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:33.640] to me.
[01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:36.240] I'm like, you're going to talk to a friend of Kelton, cool.
[01:37:36.240 --> 01:37:41.480] That'll be interesting because I've had him on my show a few times about trapping and
[01:37:41.480 --> 01:37:42.480] all sorts of stuff.
[01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:49.760] And Tammy does a lot on Agenda 21, but all of a sudden they get into this legal battle
[01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:52.040] and I had to go for it.
[01:37:52.040 --> 01:38:00.360] Now I've been following filming, right, in particular the Austin Peaceful Streets program
[01:38:00.360 --> 01:38:09.960] and Antonio Bealer, and just a bunch of public surveillance things, and going into court and
[01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:19.600] then having Chuck, who's a proper, he does all sorts of stuff about preparing stuff for
[01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:20.600] future contingencies.
[01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.160] I won't go into that.
[01:38:23.160 --> 01:38:29.760] He was recording because he thought it was legal to record in the court room.
[01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:33.920] Now I didn't have any discussion with him, and I've been in previous cases where the
[01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:42.640] court has said, you can't film, so I'm not recording, I'm not filming, I'm just monitoring.
[01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:48.200] This brings up an issue that needs to be addressed.
[01:38:48.200 --> 01:39:00.880] The restriction on filming is a court rule, and I may well go down to this judge's court
[01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:06.840] and tell him I'm here to record the proceedings in his court.
[01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:12.920] We were in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and I went into the federal courthouse.
[01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:17.840] A magistrate was holding a hearing, one of these make-a-deal hearings.
[01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:21.280] I called the U.S. Marshal over and told him, my name's Randall Kelton, tell the judge
[01:39:21.280 --> 01:39:23.800] I have business with the court.
[01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:24.800] He didn't.
[01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:27.960] He asked me, what's the nature of the business?
[01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:31.440] I told him, I have business with the court, and none of you are here dismissed.
[01:39:31.440 --> 01:39:33.720] Well, he didn't tell the judge.
[01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:38.640] The judge finished the hearing and was dismissed the hearing, and everybody was leaving.
[01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:43.960] I stood up and hollered out in the court, your honor, I have business with the court,
[01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:47.680] and it really pealed the U.S. Marshals, but who cared?
[01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:52.040] The judge said, who are you, and I said, I'm Randall Kelton.
[01:39:52.040 --> 01:39:57.120] She said, okay, prosecutor, Mr. Prosecutor, will you wait here?
[01:39:57.120 --> 01:39:59.640] Mr. Court Reporter, will you wait here?
[01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:04.920] Anyone else who wants to stay can, but if you don't want to stay, you can leave.
[01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:10.080] And she called me up to this little podium, and she said, well, Mr. Kelton, what business
[01:40:10.080 --> 01:40:12.040] do you have with this court?
[01:40:12.040 --> 01:40:18.000] And I told the judge that I do a radio show out of Austin, Texas, and I have had people
[01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:27.000] calling into my show telling me that the federal courts are changing the court transcripts
[01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:33.320] to hide the shamanigans that they're doing, and I get more calls out of this court than
[01:40:33.320 --> 01:40:35.840] any other in the country.
[01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:38.040] Sure, that's right.
[01:40:38.040 --> 01:40:40.600] Okay, I lied a little bit, okay?
[01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:42.600] So what?
[01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.440] And she said, well, Mr. Kelton, why are you telling me this?
[01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:52.080] I said, well, I'm here with a camera crew, and I would like to videotape your courtroom,
[01:40:52.080 --> 01:40:59.160] and then compare my video and audio to your court transcripts so I can show these people
[01:40:59.160 --> 01:41:01.720] that all of this stuff they're telling me is not true.
[01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:07.240] There's no way the courts would change transcripts to hide their improper behavior, because if
[01:41:07.240 --> 01:41:13.080] I compare my video to your transcripts, they will match.
[01:41:13.080 --> 01:41:17.040] And she said, well, Mr. Kelton, I'm sorry I can't help you.
[01:41:17.040 --> 01:41:21.720] That there is a court rule, or first she said, I'm sorry, there's a court rule that forbids
[01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:22.720] cameras in the courtroom.
[01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.680] I said, yes, Your Honor, I'm familiar with that court rule, but I'm sure as you know
[01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:31.440] it violates the First Amendment and you may not enforce it.
[01:41:31.440 --> 01:41:35.320] She said, well, Mr. Kelton, I'm sorry you can't, I can't help you.
[01:41:35.320 --> 01:41:39.320] Oh, that's okay, Your Honor, you already have.
[01:41:39.320 --> 01:41:40.320] Thank you very much.
[01:41:40.320 --> 01:41:41.320] I'm done.
[01:41:41.320 --> 01:41:45.560] I turned around and walked out.
[01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:49.320] He was not happy camera, and that is my point.
[01:41:49.320 --> 01:41:51.640] This is an issue that needs to be addressed.
[01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:59.160] Well, I think that Chuck Smith has actually gets into the teeth of that, because he was
[01:41:59.160 --> 01:42:08.040] first of all negligent of the understanding of the, quote, rule of the court.
[01:42:08.040 --> 01:42:15.240] And the question ends up being, does that rule Trump the state slash alleged federal
[01:42:15.240 --> 01:42:21.080] constitution, right, that says that, you know, he can record, right?
[01:42:21.080 --> 01:42:24.320] Why does this rule allow him to do that?
[01:42:24.320 --> 01:42:33.240] And so he was immediately cuffed, taken out by the point of a gun, right, you know, right
[01:42:33.240 --> 01:42:34.240] in front of me.
[01:42:34.240 --> 01:42:37.440] And I'm kind of like going, whoa, that's interesting.
[01:42:37.440 --> 01:42:40.480] And he was ignorant of that fact.
[01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:49.120] Now the judge, now wait a minute, hold on, the judge said to the bailiff to read out
[01:42:49.120 --> 01:42:54.800] a statement exerting that rule, and the bailiff never did that.
[01:42:54.800 --> 01:43:02.840] The judge did find that out towards the end, so the judge wanted to exert this rule verbally,
[01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:03.840] but never did.
[01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:04.840] Okay.
[01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:05.840] I don't know if that's, okay.
[01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:06.840] Screw the rule.
[01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:07.840] Okay.
[01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:08.840] Screw the rule.
[01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:09.840] Okay.
[01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:10.840] Screw the rule.
[01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:15.480] The rule is a conspiracy to commit.
[01:43:15.480 --> 01:43:19.320] That's the way I read it.
[01:43:19.320 --> 01:43:27.240] If the courts got together and decided that we will do this thing that will have the effect
[01:43:27.240 --> 01:43:32.680] of denying the citizen the First Amendment rights, that's a conspiracy to commit.
[01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:37.600] And that's why I'm considering going down to that court.
[01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:39.080] Hang on just a second.
[01:43:39.080 --> 01:43:43.200] This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig, move our radio.
[01:43:43.200 --> 01:43:44.200] Got it.
[01:43:44.200 --> 01:43:52.560] And our calling number is 512-646-1984, we'll be right back on the other side.
[01:43:52.560 --> 01:43:58.560] If I staggered a little bit there, it was a technical issue, and I got it right this
[01:43:58.560 --> 01:43:59.560] time.
[01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:00.560] We're at that.
[01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:05.560] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't
[01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:09.320] so easy, and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[01:44:09.320 --> 01:44:12.480] Oh, well I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then.
[01:44:12.480 --> 01:44:13.480] Brave New Books?
[01:44:13.480 --> 01:44:14.480] Yes.
[01:44:14.480 --> 01:44:18.680] Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones,
[01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:20.680] Ron Paul, Angie Edward Griffin.
[01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:24.080] They even stock Interfood, Berkey Products, and Calvin Soaps.
[01:44:24.080 --> 01:44:27.000] There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:28.480] Go check it out for yourself.
[01:44:28.480 --> 01:44:32.480] It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south in UT.
[01:44:32.480 --> 01:44:33.480] Oh, by UT?
[01:44:33.480 --> 01:44:36.560] There's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:41.480] Actually they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
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[01:44:44.480 --> 01:44:47.480] It does exist, but when are they open?
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[01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:55.600] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Dr. Steven J. Craig, Rule of Law Radio, and this is our
[01:46:55.600 --> 01:47:00.600] last segment in a good life to plug our fundraiser.
[01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:09.600] Everybody who donates to the fundraiser from this point forward, I'm going to send some of my super soap.
[01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:11.600] You're going to love the soap. This is great.
[01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:16.600] But we need to upgrade the system.
[01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:20.600] I know you've heard some glitches lately.
[01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:28.600] And that's because we're struggling with less than the best equipment that we need to be able to get this done.
[01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:33.600] There's a lot more going on behind the scenes than you realize.
[01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:37.600] Sometimes we really struggle to keep this thing on the air.
[01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:40.600] And nobody struggles harder than Deborah does.
[01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:48.600] She is absolutely incredible in being able to keep things working when everything's crashing around her.
[01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:56.600] And we would appreciate any investment we can get to help us keep this thing on the air.
[01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:00.600] Okay, we were talking to Steve in Texas.
[01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:02.600] Steve, we need to move quickly.
[01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:03.600] It's getting toward you in the show.
[01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:08.600] We've got one more caller I need to get to.
[01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:09.600] No, Matt.
[01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:16.600] Let me sidestep and I'll go into a cliffhanger and I'll call into another show.
[01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:22.600] I do have one final closing thought for you to chew on.
[01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:30.600] The judge said Chuck should be out Friday afternoon and he won't get out till Saturday.
[01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:32.600] That's kind of curious.
[01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.600] And I'll take my question on another day.
[01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:37.600] I'll see you next time.
[01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:38.600] Thank you.
[01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:39.600] Thank you.
[01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:41.600] And don't be bashful.
[01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:44.600] I'll call in more often.
[01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:50.600] We don't have many people who are doing what we're doing and you're a journalist.
[01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:58.600] So I would very much like to get your input and opinions on things.
[01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:01.600] We need more perspective.
[01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:09.600] And especially this issue of recording our courts, the courts really don't want us to record them.
[01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:22.600] But with the Glick decision, that door has been opened and I am seriously considered going to Parker County and taking on this judge directly.
[01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:31.600] I want to go into his courtroom and request permission to record his courtroom.
[01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:35.600] Quickly, I will continue this discussion on Thursday.
[01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:37.600] I believe you're on next Thursday.
[01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:38.600] Yes.
[01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:40.600] So we'll talk then.
[01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:42.600] Thank you.
[01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:43.600] Thank you, Steve.
[01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:49.600] Okay, we are going to go to Juan in California.
[01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:53.600] Hola, Sr. Franco.
[01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:58.600] Mr. Randy, ¿Dónde está el baño?
[01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:01.600] Have you learned that?
[01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:05.600] How am I doing in the toilet?
[01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:08.600] I'm doing pretty good in the toilet.
[01:50:08.600 --> 01:50:12.600] Okay, after a few beers.
[01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:21.600] After a few, but I've had to migrate from the barley to the root, so it's not quite as dramatic as it used to be.
[01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:25.600] Regular beer puts me to sleep, I'm old.
[01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:30.600] How are things going for you, Sr. Juan?
[01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:39.600] You know what, I have a feeling that things are going excellent on my end.
[01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:51.600] Federal complaint against the lawyers doing foreclosure on my property.
[01:50:51.600 --> 01:51:00.600] And they filed a non-monetary status, and we've been going back and forth with the system.
[01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:07.600] And I was scheduled to be in court on November 5th.
[01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:18.600] Now, on November 5th, I have to bring in a synopsis of what I'm doing, what I'm looking to do, and all the goodies in the process.
[01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:27.600] Okay, wait a minute. Is this a, what do you call it, a scheduling hearing?
[01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:31.600] What is the nature of the hearing that you're required to be to?
[01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:38.600] It's called a meeting of counsel.
[01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:41.600] Meeting of counsel?
[01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:42.600] Yeah.
[01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:46.600] This sounds like a let's make a deal hearing.
[01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:48.600] Of course.
[01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:56.600] So, before the meeting of counsel, I had a conversation with the lawyer representing the other side,
[01:51:56.600 --> 01:52:04.600] and he was going to write up a counsel meeting.
[01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:07.600] Both of us had to sign it.
[01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:18.600] Both of us had agreed on 60 to 90 day extension of time because neither he was ready or I was ready to meet.
[01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:36.600] But when he wrote the documents, he made everything to November 5th, which was 20 days from the original schedule.
[01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:44.600] So, he went ahead and wrote all his documents and everything set up for November 5th.
[01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:49.600] This is scheduled in the counsel meeting on November 5th.
[01:52:49.600 --> 01:53:04.600] And I went behind him and I asked for an extension of time, 60 to 90 days.
[01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:15.600] And everything was set up that we were supposed to meet on November 5th.
[01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:16.600] I'm ready.
[01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:18.600] I was ready to meet.
[01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:19.600] Okay.
[01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:20.600] One, go quickly.
[01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:21.600] We've got five minutes left.
[01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:24.600] We're running close on time.
[01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:28.600] Okay.
[01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:37.600] I just got a call today from the court that the meeting was off schedule.
[01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:39.600] Off schedule.
[01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:45.600] So, that means it was a huge success for me.
[01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:47.600] Good.
[01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:48.600] Yes.
[01:53:48.600 --> 01:54:00.600] This is especially good because we have a pro say beating the crap out of bar card carrying attorneys.
[01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:07.600] So, did they set us a date for another hearing or did they just take it off the schedule?
[01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:12.600] No, that's why I'm talking to you right now.
[01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:23.600] Because when the court called me today, they said, Mr. Franco, give us a call and let us know when you're ready to meet with counsel.
[01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:25.600] I said, thank you very much.
[01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:33.600] Since I don't know what I'm doing, it's going to take me extra time to prepare to meet.
[01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:36.600] That was awesome, Ronnie.
[01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:38.600] Awesome.
[01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:49.600] Okay. And this gives us time to go after some things that we're developing at the moment.
[01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:58.600] And this is the notary issue and the durable power of attorney issue.
[01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:13.600] We may be able to undermine their case in the state court by getting the documentation they depend on ruled invalid because of technical issues.
[01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:17.600] Oh, I so love those technical issues.
[01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:28.600] Here's the interesting case. In our case, the initial complaint was filed in federal court.
[01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:36.600] In California, the other side is allowed to respond with a non-monetary status.
[01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:48.600] And now I have all these different laws and cases and thousands of cases that non-monetary status doesn't apply to federal court.
[01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:51.600] My case is in federal court.
[01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:58.600] Did you bar grieve the lawyers for filing the non-monetary status in a federal court?
[01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:02.600] No. I have the document ready.
[01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:09.600] And I'm going to submit it Monday morning.
[01:56:09.600 --> 01:56:20.600] They have no case in federal court.
[01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:22.600] We're in federal court.
[01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:28.600] So they're non-monetary status doesn't work in federal.
[01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:34.600] So I'm expecting a call from the lawyer as soon as I submit the document.
[01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:40.600] He's going to be pissed and happy.
[01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:52.600] This is good. This is nice to have some success on occasion because we always expected courts to rule against us totally and completely.
[01:56:52.600 --> 01:56:58.600] And here you're actually getting a little interest from the court.
[01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:02.600] And I think this is a sign of times.
[01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:11.600] We're looking at the second election and we're expecting a large turnover in the house.
[01:57:11.600 --> 01:57:20.600] I'm hoping as big as the last one, if not bigger, and then we'll have a house that's not in control.
[01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:32.600] And all of these political factions, the courts and federal prosecutors and everybody else will be wondering what the legislature's going to do to them.
[01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:38.600] And they might well actually start ruling according to law.
[01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:42.600] And wouldn't that be a nice thing?
[01:57:42.600 --> 01:57:45.600] Yes, it would.
[01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:50.600] Okay, we are out of time. I had one more caller.
[01:57:50.600 --> 01:58:04.600] Juan, we're going to stay with you and I'm looking forward to the day that the lawyers cry uncle and back away and give you your properties free and clear.
[01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:06.600] Alright.
[01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:10.600] Okay, thank you for calling in.
[01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:15.600] We have Randy Count and Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig who live on radio.
[01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:18.600] And before we go, don't forget our fundraiser.
[01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:26.600] We can use all the help we can get to upgrade this system and keep us on the air and keep us viable.
[01:58:26.600 --> 01:58:37.600] We will be back Monday with Deborah and Eddie on the traffic show and I'll be back with Deborah and Eddie on Thursday.
[01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:41.600] That's mine. Tune in. Thank you for listening.
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