ROL_2012-10-12_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:07.120]  Every business you visit these days seems to want you to friend it on Facebook, but should
[00:07.120 --> 00:08.120]  you?
[00:08.120 --> 00:11.080]  It could lead to an ordeal straight out of a Kafka novel.
[00:11.080 --> 00:15.960]  Let Dr. Kaepernalbrecht back to tell you how Facebook got an innocent woman arrested
[00:15.960 --> 00:17.960]  next.
[00:17.960 --> 00:19.680]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:19.680 --> 00:23.280]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:23.280 --> 00:28.280]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:28.280 --> 00:33.240]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:33.240 --> 00:36.080]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.400 --> 00:52.280]  Liz Aston, a 28-year-old artist, used to think Facebook was harmless, till Toronto Police
[00:52.280 --> 00:58.240]  used her profile to falsely accuse her of a crime in a bar she hadn't been to in months.
[00:58.240 --> 01:02.680]  The police told Aston the victim of a bar fight had identified her as the attacker.
[01:02.680 --> 01:03.680]  How?
[01:03.680 --> 01:08.280]  They created a suspect lineup using photos of the bar's Facebook friends, and the victim
[01:08.280 --> 01:10.320]  pointed to Aston's photo.
[01:10.320 --> 01:15.080]  Fortunately, she had an alibi, but it took her a lawyer thousands of dollars in four
[01:15.080 --> 01:17.320]  months in court to clear her name.
[01:17.320 --> 01:20.480]  So think twice before friending anything online.
[01:20.480 --> 01:23.240]  Remember, Big Brother loves social media too.
[01:23.240 --> 01:31.240]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:31.240 --> 01:39.240]  Ew, what's the most bacteria-filled object in a hotel room?
[01:39.240 --> 01:44.240]  Not to be a germaphobe, but a new study shows there is one thing you may not want to touch.
[01:44.240 --> 01:48.240]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and when I come back, I'll tell you what it is.
[01:48.240 --> 01:50.240]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:50.240 --> 01:54.240]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:54.240 --> 01:59.240]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:59.240 --> 02:04.240]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:04.240 --> 02:07.240]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
[02:07.240 --> 02:13.240]  This message is brought to you by StartPage.com, the private search engine alternative to Google,
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[02:16.240 --> 02:23.240]  When I stay at hotels, I'm generally suspicious of the carpet, and I always give the bedspread a wide berth.
[02:23.240 --> 02:28.240]  Okay, call me a germaphobe, but a new study vindicates at least some of my paranoia.
[02:28.240 --> 02:33.240]  In a survey of hotels in three states, the American Society for Microbiology found
[02:33.240 --> 02:39.240]  that 81% of hotel room surfaces contain fecal bacteria, yuck.
[02:39.240 --> 02:44.240]  The worst offenders? TV remotes, followed by toilets and bathroom sinks.
[02:44.240 --> 02:48.240]  Light switches and phones also tested high for bacteria.
[02:48.240 --> 02:51.240]  Before using them, a little hand sanitizer might be in order.
[02:51.240 --> 02:56.240]  So which surface is safest? The headboard, but good luck eating off of it.
[02:56.240 --> 03:18.240]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[03:18.240 --> 03:28.240]  Okay, we are back.
[03:28.240 --> 03:33.240]  Grant Kelton. Go ahead, Randy.
[03:33.240 --> 03:41.240]  Grant Kelton, Dr. Steven J. Craig, we're on radio, and on the break, we were having a very lively discussion,
[03:41.240 --> 03:44.240]  and I would like to go back to that.
[03:44.240 --> 03:52.240]  When we were going out, something occurred to me. We had Dr. Vieth on the show a number of times,
[03:52.240 --> 04:00.240]  and he talked about the fact that the states were only allowed to make gold and silver legal tender.
[04:00.240 --> 04:09.240]  As I read that, they weren't allowed to coin money, but they could declare gold and silver as legal tender.
[04:09.240 --> 04:16.240]  And Dr. Vieth would talk about how the federal government wasn't restricted in that way,
[04:16.240 --> 04:21.240]  that they could make popsicle sticks legal tender if they wanted to.
[04:21.240 --> 04:34.240]  And it just occurred to me, finally, where did the federal government get the power to declare anything legal tender?
[04:34.240 --> 04:39.240]  Michael?
[04:39.240 --> 04:47.240]  Well, the Congress and U.S. federal government has no power to declare anything legal tender.
[04:47.240 --> 04:59.240]  We, the people, created the Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5, gives Congress the power to coin money.
[04:59.240 --> 05:08.240]  That means they can use gold and silver. It's an implication that gold and silver are going to be coined into money.
[05:08.240 --> 05:16.240]  And if you read Madison's notes on the Continental Congress, they explicitly, they got all bent out of shape
[05:16.240 --> 05:22.240]  that we were theorizing that Congress would have the power to print money.
[05:22.240 --> 05:33.240]  And they said, no, no, no, we're not going to let that happen, because that's how they got into the financial crisis, you know, after the American Revolution.
[05:33.240 --> 05:47.240]  Congress has the power to regulate the value thereof, which means that they could put a number on the ounce of gold and the ounce of silver.
[05:47.240 --> 05:53.240]  This is the psychological equivalent of coming to my house to play poker.
[05:53.240 --> 06:00.240]  I put the red, white, and blue poker chips on the table, and I regulate the value thereof.
[06:00.240 --> 06:06.240]  Before we start dealing the cards, you ask, how much are the poker chips worth?
[06:06.240 --> 06:15.240]  Is it penny, nickel dime, nickel dime quarter, or, God forbid, dollar, five dollars, ten dollars?
[06:15.240 --> 06:26.240]  I mean, I get to decide how much the poker chips are going to be worth during this poker game, but that number is basically hereof.
[06:26.240 --> 06:29.240]  They are still red, white, and blue poker chips.
[06:29.240 --> 06:33.240]  An ounce of gold is still an ounce of gold.
[06:33.240 --> 06:42.240]  Congress gets to decide arbitrarily what number of dollars that ounce of gold is going to represent.
[06:42.240 --> 06:53.240]  Congress has the power to also regulate foreign coin, because we don't know what other countries are going to be using for money.
[06:53.240 --> 07:05.240]  They may use brass or copper or something else, and Congress is going to have to decide what the corresponding worth is going to be.
[07:05.240 --> 07:18.240]  How many Japanese or Russian or German tokens are going to be necessary to trade for one of our ounces of gold?
[07:18.240 --> 07:29.240]  The final clause, or final phrase in that clause, is to establish a system of weights and measures.
[07:29.240 --> 07:41.240]  This is not because Congress was going to regulate fruits and vegetables, and they didn't know where to put the weights and measures statement,
[07:41.240 --> 07:47.240]  and so they just shoved it at the end of Clause 5.
[07:47.240 --> 07:51.240]  You're talking about ounces of gold, ounces of silver.
[07:51.240 --> 07:54.240]  Well, what is an ounce?
[07:54.240 --> 07:59.240]  Somebody's going to have to define that, and Congress had that responsibility.
[07:59.240 --> 08:09.240]  So they define weights and measures, they define ounces, and they regulate the number that you're going to stamp on your ounce of gold and your ounce of silver.
[08:09.240 --> 08:14.240]  It does not give Congress the authority to create legal tender.
[08:14.240 --> 08:34.240]  That phrase is found in House Joint Resolution 192, which was created on March 9, 1933, after a bank holiday when the banks realized they could not pay all the money that the people had put in.
[08:34.240 --> 08:47.240]  And so Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who presumably took an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution in order to become presumably the President of the United States,
[08:47.240 --> 08:55.240]  then makes a formal announcement that it is illegal for Americans to own gold.
[08:55.240 --> 08:57.240]  Are you insane?
[08:57.240 --> 09:02.240]  I don't know how this man walked off the balcony, still alive.
[09:02.240 --> 09:10.240]  I mean, why didn't the people rise up and go, no, you cannot make it illegal for us to own property.
[09:10.240 --> 09:14.240]  You're supposed to be defending our right to own property.
[09:14.240 --> 09:22.240]  And so when the legal tender was created, they made gold illegal.
[09:22.240 --> 09:30.240]  They said, okay, these worthless pieces of paper are now legal tender and you're obligated by law to take them.
[09:30.240 --> 09:44.240]  You know, it wasn't, I mean, this is after 1913 when the Federal Reserve was presumably given the power to print paper money.
[09:44.240 --> 09:55.240]  Now Article 1, Section 8, Clause 6 explicitly requires Congress to find and punish counterfeiting.
[09:55.240 --> 10:04.240]  Not only are they not supposed to allow it, they're supposed to go out and do their best to put an end to it.
[10:04.240 --> 10:14.240]  So everything the United States government has done since 1913, as far as I'm concerned, is unconstitutional because they stole our money.
[10:14.240 --> 10:21.240]  They stole our common law and they have been violating our rights ever since.
[10:21.240 --> 10:34.240]  And until the American people wake the hell up and realize that our current economic problems are directly related to the illegal unconstitutional Federal Reserve,
[10:34.240 --> 10:44.240]  and we start getting turned feathers and sobbing this problem, you're going to continue to not have money for food, for, you know, going on vacation,
[10:44.240 --> 11:00.240]  for paying for your kids' education, and you're going to continue operating as a slave in what used to be the most powerful and best country in the face of the globe.
[11:00.240 --> 11:11.240]  Well, uh, why don't you hold him back, Michael? Tell us what you really think.
[11:11.240 --> 11:17.240]  This is, uh, that was, you know, that's how I read it.
[11:17.240 --> 11:22.240]  So this whole thing of the Federal Reserve.
[11:22.240 --> 11:27.240]  Yes, absolutely. We cannot ask.
[11:27.240 --> 11:30.240]  We can't have authorized them to fix this problem.
[11:30.240 --> 11:45.240]  Yeah, they're authorizing the Federal Reserve to do something that they have no power to do, and even if they did have the power to do it, they wouldn't have the power to delegate it.
[11:45.240 --> 11:48.240]  That's correct.
[11:48.240 --> 11:51.240]  So how do we fix it?
[11:51.240 --> 12:04.240]  Tar, feathers, uh, we've got to wake the people of the United States up. I mean, you know, the three of us could get together late one night and melt some tar, but we're not going to be successful.
[12:04.240 --> 12:17.240]  I mean, we need to have a substantial portion of the United States population understand this problem. You know, just say no.
[12:17.240 --> 12:30.240]  And I think we're coming up to this second election election after the 2008 real estate debacle.
[12:30.240 --> 12:42.240]  I think when the Congress approved that $7 trillion bailout, I think that's what woke up really woke up the American public.
[12:42.240 --> 12:48.240]  And in the last election, we had the biggest turnover in the House of Representatives in history.
[12:48.240 --> 12:53.240]  I expect in this election, we'll have an even bigger turnover.
[12:53.240 --> 13:02.240]  And we'll wind up with the House of Representatives with a very large amount of freshmen and congressmen.
[13:02.240 --> 13:05.240]  And that equates to opportunity.
[13:05.240 --> 13:12.240]  It's not that these are good guys, but they hadn't had time to be bought out by the bad guys yet.
[13:12.240 --> 13:15.240]  So they still have some ideals.
[13:15.240 --> 13:26.240]  And I think if ever there was an opportunity, these next couple of years are going to be the opportunity for us to implement fix.
[13:26.240 --> 13:32.240]  So it leads me to the question, how do we fix it?
[13:32.240 --> 13:40.240]  Well, I just attended a presentation by Peter Schiff just this last week.
[13:40.240 --> 13:51.240]  And he has written a book called The Real Crash, How to Save Your Country.
[13:51.240 --> 13:59.240]  I forget what the subtitle is, but I wasn't joking at the beginning of this program.
[13:59.240 --> 14:14.240]  When I said that Peter Schiff's analysis of what is going to happen to this country makes my analysis sound like cheerful optimism.
[14:14.240 --> 14:21.240]  I mean, I keep telling people the economy is going to crash and there are going to be people starving to death.
[14:21.240 --> 14:30.240]  And people just kind of not knowingly, this is just Michael in his usual rant. He's always exaggerating just to prove a point.
[14:30.240 --> 14:41.240]  No, I'm not exaggerating. People are going to die. People are going to starve to death because the money that they have won't buy anything.
[14:41.240 --> 14:55.240]  And my problem is that I just give you the conclusion. In Peter Schiff's presentation, he explained how and why this was going to happen.
[14:55.240 --> 15:03.240]  His presentation was far more dramatic, far more compelling than anything that I've been able to do.
[15:03.240 --> 15:16.240]  I understand the Constitution. He knows money and the economy. And boy, I tell you, the people who are in that auditorium listening to him, I mean everybody.
[15:16.240 --> 15:24.240]  And these people came to hear him because they're already part of the knowing masses.
[15:24.240 --> 15:36.240]  I mean, we have not drank the Kool-Aid, which is why they came to hear Peter Schiff. But even the people in the audience were gasping when they're going, oh, my God.
[15:36.240 --> 15:42.240]  I mean, I knew it was going to be bad, but I didn't know it was going to be that bad.
[15:42.240 --> 16:03.240]  So I highly recommend that you do an internet search and get a copy of Peter Schiff's book. And if that doesn't bring you religion real quick, then you are hopeless and you're going to be one of the people starving to death.
[16:03.240 --> 16:11.240]  And it's been nice knowing you.
[16:11.240 --> 16:16.240]  I'm sorry to sugarcoat it like that all the time.
[16:16.240 --> 16:24.240]  Yeah, I'm getting tired of you holding back. I would really like for you to, for once, just tell it like it is.
[16:24.240 --> 16:32.240]  Yeah, just stop being so PC around Randy. We don't really care what he thinks about that.
[16:32.240 --> 16:48.240]  Yes. And, you know, this, you know, I'm seeing this actually happen. One of the things that kind of frustrates me is those people in the government and media are not talking about it.
[16:48.240 --> 16:59.240]  So I know we're paying twice as much for fuel, but it's really not inflation does. The news didn't say it was inflation.
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[19:00.240 --> 19:18.240]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the father can do it by you. And don't let bad-mined people hurt you. And just sit and get behind. You know what I mean? My friend, Nala Jackson.
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[19:48.240 --> 20:06.240]  Call on his name and pray to him. Because he's the only one who could answer him. In a business what we can man-sit in. Man-sit in, you know, if there's need in it.
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[20:14.240 --> 20:24.240]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Steele, David Craig. We have our radio and we were talking to Henry in Texas. Henry, did you have anything else for us?
[20:24.240 --> 20:31.240]  Or did we answer your question in about 20 you didn't answer? Ask.
[20:31.240 --> 20:39.240]  No, I think I learned a lot. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. Thank you, guys.
[20:39.240 --> 20:47.240]  Okay, thank you, Henry. Okay, now we're going to go to Chris from Texas. Chris, what do you have for us?
[20:47.240 --> 21:02.240]  Hey, Randy. Well, I was calling about the notary stuff, but I think I'm going to bushwhack you with a different question real quick first.
[21:02.240 --> 21:27.240]  Hold on. As a matter of fact, before you do that, I do need to talk about fundraiser. We are, you know, that Debra, Eddie and I pretty well support the network with our sponsors and along with some folks that help to donate regularly to help keep it going.
[21:27.240 --> 21:39.240]  This is not a real commercial network. If you listen to Alex Jones, you'll notice those folks are a lot more commercial than we are.
[21:39.240 --> 21:57.240]  We are focused on giving a lot of good information and we spend a lot of time researching and all the orders do that. And we're not primarily promoters and this is an onerous job that we have to do.
[21:57.240 --> 22:19.240]  But if we don't get some input, we could start having real serious difficulty keeping the show going. So if you got a few extra dollars, five, ten, whatever, we would appreciate anything we can get to help keep this thing going.
[22:19.240 --> 22:33.240]  Just look around at the value that we give you and just give us back a little bit of that so that we can keep this thing up and we really need to upgrade.
[22:33.240 --> 22:54.240]  We're having a special problem now because the electric bill is getting absolutely outrageous and in order to keep this thing on the air, we really need some help. So if you got a few extra bucks, we would sure appreciate it and it would help keep this show on the air.
[22:54.240 --> 23:07.240]  Just look back and consider how much value you have received from this. Give us a little piece of that and we'll all be happy. Thank you very much.
[23:07.240 --> 23:13.240]  Now we're going to go back to Chris in Texas. Okay, Chris, go ahead.
[23:13.240 --> 23:28.240]  Alright, the question I guess is for Michael and you and Eddie as well. First off, I hope the feds aren't listening because this is supposedly a dangerous question to ask in public.
[23:28.240 --> 23:49.240]  But we always hear Ron Paul talking about audit the Fed, audit the Fed, audit the Fed. Well, wouldn't it be just as easy to go pull the CAFRA report for the Federal Reserve and you'd have your audit right there?
[23:49.240 --> 24:06.240]  Well, you're assuming that the CAFRA would be public for the Federal Reserve. I doubt very seriously if any of the internal information in the Federal Reserve would be considered publicly available, otherwise auditing would already have been occurred.
[24:06.240 --> 24:22.240]  Well, I did pull up something that claims to be the CAFRA report for the Federal Reserve and that they increased their cash standing from $28 billion in 2010 to $82 billion in 2011.
[24:22.240 --> 24:38.240]  Well, let me give some folks out there a little bit of information about what I used to do before I wound up on this show. I used to be a full-time computer consultant. I did avionics electronics in the Air Force for 14 years along with other things.
[24:38.240 --> 24:54.240]  But one of the last computer consulting contracts I had before I opened my business back in Nackadoches was actually rewriting the federal budget software used by the Congress for Y2K conversions.
[24:54.240 --> 25:13.240]  We had to get it off the DOS program they were using and over onto a Y2K compatible system. Well, as lead developer on that project, we learned an awful lot about the internal workings of these systems as a whole.
[25:13.240 --> 25:24.240]  And believe me when I tell you that nobody up there has a clue where this money goes.
[25:24.240 --> 25:32.240]  Case in point, we developed this software exactly according to the specifications in the congressional contract.
[25:32.240 --> 25:45.240]  But the people who actually allocate the money to the various government accounts and projects are not the congressmen, it's the peons in the basements that deal with all that.
[25:45.240 --> 25:55.240]  And they'll flat out tell you to your face, yes, congressman so and so comes down here and ticks us off and he brings us a funding request for his little project.
[25:55.240 --> 26:08.240]  We'll just file 13 if we're not wanting to do what he wants. You think it's the congressman that actually run the country. It's not. It's the gnomes in the basement.
[26:08.240 --> 26:19.240]  Okay. And those gnomes answer to what they look at as a higher power and I guarantee you it's not Congress.
[26:19.240 --> 26:27.240]  Congress may have the power to hire and fire these little underlings, but they don't answer to the congressman.
[26:27.240 --> 26:39.240]  And that's where a lot of people make a big mistake in thinking they know how the federal system works when it comes to allocation of money and how it's tracked and everything else.
[26:39.240 --> 26:49.240]  These same underlings are the entire reason why that $1.8 million piece of software is not currently in use. It wound up on a shelf.
[26:49.240 --> 27:02.240]  Because after we finished presenting it to the congressman, who all loved everything we did and the way it worked because even a fourth grader could use it and it made sense.
[27:02.240 --> 27:09.240]  But basically we wrote a fourth graders version of quick books. Okay.
[27:09.240 --> 27:25.240]  Basically to track everything they did, every account, every penny that went in and out of it and we made it work in such a way that it was visually pleasing and easy to access as far as understanding what money was where and how much.
[27:25.240 --> 27:45.240]  But the underlings in the basement after the presentation came to us and said, okay, we need to know how to take money out of account A and put it over here in account F, but we don't want the funds in either account to reflect the change.
[27:45.240 --> 27:50.240]  And I just sort of stood there and looked at him and said, what?
[27:50.240 --> 27:57.240]  And they said, yeah, we need to take money from there. We need to put it over here, but we need the money amounts to stay the same.
[27:57.240 --> 28:02.240]  You're kidding me, right?
[28:02.240 --> 28:10.240]  But that's what they wanted. It's the only way the government could fund its black ops projects off the books.
[28:10.240 --> 28:17.240]  And yet the contract we were hired to work on said that was absolutely forbidden.
[28:17.240 --> 28:31.240]  And because they couldn't do it behind Congress's back, the software we designed did not get implemented, despite the fact that American taxpayers were responsible for the bill on that.
[28:31.240 --> 28:39.240]  So do not operate under any illusion whatsoever as to who controls this country and the purse strings.
[28:39.240 --> 28:49.240]  It is not Congress. It is not the underlings in the basement. They simply shuffle the money around as they are directed.
[28:49.240 --> 29:00.240]  And I guarantee you that direction from the information I've gotten, the things that I saw the time I was working on this project, the Federal Reserve is the one that's controlling this.
[29:00.240 --> 29:09.240]  You will never, ever see the bottom line on any CAFRA report as it relates to the Federal Reserve.
[29:09.240 --> 29:22.240]  Because the Federal Reserve controls all the money no matter where it's at, no matter how it's being allocated, they direct it or they don't print it.
[29:22.240 --> 29:29.240]  I'm in agreement with you there. I can agree with they control it all.
[29:29.240 --> 29:35.240]  Now, as disgruntling and unhappy as that makes most Americans, folks, that is a fact.
[29:35.240 --> 29:41.240]  I've seen it with my own eyes, been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.
[29:41.240 --> 29:48.240]  Alright, we're about to go to break. This is Rule of Law Radio, calling number 512-646-1984.
[29:48.240 --> 30:00.240]  We've only got one open spot on the collar board, and that ain't gonna last long. So folks, we'll be right back.
[30:00.240 --> 30:06.240]  This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11.
[30:06.240 --> 30:13.240]  The government says that fire brought it down. However, 1,500 architects and engineers have concluded it was a controlled demolition.
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[32:19.240 --> 32:40.240]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[32:40.240 --> 32:44.240]  Okay, now we are going to get back to our callers here.
[32:44.240 --> 32:48.240]  Chris, what else you got left for us?
[32:48.240 --> 32:53.240]  I was going to leave it up to Randy if he wanted me to go into that notary stuff tonight.
[32:53.240 --> 33:10.240]  Yeah, I've been doing a lot more research on the notary issue, and the more I look at it, the more of a really powerful tool I see it to be.
[33:10.240 --> 33:19.240]  So in terms of, let's play, we're playing chess instead of checkers.
[33:19.240 --> 33:32.240]  The one thing I'm really looking for right now is how to get back to the notary and get the notary to feed us the lawyer.
[33:32.240 --> 33:46.240]  Because what I'm thinking of saying to the notaries, the way they do the notaries has been done improperly,
[33:46.240 --> 33:50.240]  but lawyers did it this way for convenience.
[33:50.240 --> 33:58.240]  They would hire someone in an entry level position and say, hey, we really need a notary.
[33:58.240 --> 34:07.240]  I tell you what, we will pay for your notary and your bond, and we'll make you a notary for us.
[34:07.240 --> 34:10.240]  And these people tend to say, oh, great, that's wonderful.
[34:10.240 --> 34:18.240]  And then they get their notaries stamped and they get them in and they set them down and give them this stack of documents and say, here, sign all these and stamp them.
[34:18.240 --> 34:22.240]  And then when they say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
[34:22.240 --> 34:28.240]  And they're supposed to do this in front of the person and they say, oh, no, no, sorry, everybody does it.
[34:28.240 --> 34:31.240]  And they get them to sign all these and stamp them.
[34:31.240 --> 34:36.240]  And when they need one, they pull it off the shelf, they fill in all the blanks, and they file it.
[34:36.240 --> 34:43.240]  So we're going to ask the notary to produce for us the sequential ledger.
[34:43.240 --> 34:51.240]  Well, they don't have one because correct me if I'm wrong, Chris.
[34:51.240 --> 34:54.240]  This is what I thought was going on.
[34:54.240 --> 34:58.240]  I don't believe this is really how it's working.
[34:58.240 --> 35:10.240]  It appears as though the documents are being signed and then they're putting an acknowledgement on it.
[35:10.240 --> 35:22.240]  And the acknowledgement acknowledges that I'm the person who signed this and I'm actually the one who signed it.
[35:22.240 --> 35:26.240]  So you have to kind of read it careful to see what it's saying.
[35:26.240 --> 35:38.240]  It's not the notary saying, I observed this person sign this document after I administered the oath to him.
[35:38.240 --> 35:48.240]  It's saying this person has acknowledged to me that he signed that.
[35:48.240 --> 35:54.240]  No, that is not my interpretation of how, you know...
[35:54.240 --> 35:56.240]  Well, women, hold on.
[35:56.240 --> 36:01.240]  I'm not talking about how it's supposed to be done.
[36:01.240 --> 36:18.240]  I'm thinking if I'm some chomp notary who don't know squat and you hire me and make me a notary and I don't know ability squat, but I know a little bit.
[36:18.240 --> 36:23.240]  And you're trying to get me to lend my stamp to these things without objection.
[36:23.240 --> 36:26.240]  How would you con me into it?
[36:26.240 --> 36:31.240]  And you con me into it by saying, oh, you don't have to watch the person sign it.
[36:31.240 --> 36:37.240]  This acknowledgement is them swearing that they did sign it.
[36:37.240 --> 36:39.240]  And you can verify that.
[36:39.240 --> 36:54.240]  When I read these acknowledgments, I looked through all of the sample acknowledgement by the Secretary of State in Texas and he had a whole list of different acknowledgments.
[36:54.240 --> 36:58.240]  None of them match what I'm seeing.
[36:58.240 --> 37:20.240]  It looks like they took two apart because if you're acknowledging as a officer of a corporation, it has to be in the acknowledgement that you're acknowledging as an officer of the corporation.
[37:20.240 --> 37:28.240]  What corporation it is and that you have power of attorney to sign this on behalf of this corporation.
[37:28.240 --> 37:31.240]  It's not saying that.
[37:31.240 --> 37:38.240]  I see MERS and I see the person's name and assistant secretary.
[37:38.240 --> 37:40.240]  We go down to the acknowledgement.
[37:40.240 --> 37:45.240]  The acknowledgement says that I acknowledge that I signed this particular document.
[37:45.240 --> 37:49.240]  It doesn't say I signed it in front of the notary.
[37:49.240 --> 37:52.240]  I'm acknowledging that I signed it.
[37:52.240 --> 37:55.240]  So that's implying that it's been signed previously.
[37:55.240 --> 38:03.240]  And it doesn't say that I signed it as an agent for this corporation.
[38:03.240 --> 38:13.240]  So it's likely took two apart and kind of stitched them together and it looked like they did it so that they'd make it comfortable and do it.
[38:13.240 --> 38:16.240]  Does that make sense, Chris?
[38:16.240 --> 38:18.240]  Now tell me how it really works.
[38:18.240 --> 38:37.240]  The way it really works is you can, as far as the law makes us do it, you cannot get around the fact that whoever is signing the document has to be in front of the notary when that document is signed.
[38:37.240 --> 38:44.240]  If you bring me a document and you've already signed it and you're the person signing it, I still can't take it because you signed it.
[38:44.240 --> 38:48.240]  Ex parte without my presence.
[38:48.240 --> 38:51.240]  You did not sign this document in front of me.
[38:51.240 --> 38:57.240]  And I, one of the things as a notary, is your witnessing...
[38:57.240 --> 39:03.240]  The one thing you're witnessing is that this person signed it and they were not under duress.
[39:03.240 --> 39:13.240]  The person signing was not under duress and that they were signing it of their own free will and volition.
[39:13.240 --> 39:15.240]  Okay, that's...
[39:15.240 --> 39:23.240]  Okay, you're telling me how a honest notary does it by law.
[39:23.240 --> 39:41.240]  What I think is actually going on and what I'm trying to understand is the politics and the structure of how they got these jurats I'm looking at created
[39:41.240 --> 39:49.240]  because a quick glance at them, it's obvious that these things are messed up.
[39:49.240 --> 39:55.240]  You want me to give you an insight on how that works? How they end up being the notary?
[39:55.240 --> 40:00.240]  It's not so much that an attorney is sitting there telling them, no, no, no, no.
[40:00.240 --> 40:02.240]  You just, that's how everybody does it.
[40:02.240 --> 40:16.240]  The one way I've seen it work with many notaries is they go, oh, well, we'll kick in an extra, you know, $50 to $100 on it if you'll just do it.
[40:16.240 --> 40:19.240]  Brad did to do it.
[40:19.240 --> 40:24.240]  Okay, that's going to be a little more difficult.
[40:24.240 --> 40:33.240]  Okay, let me back up and present what I'm looking to do.
[40:33.240 --> 40:40.240]  What I want to do is ask the notary for their sequential ledger.
[40:40.240 --> 40:49.240]  And when the notary fails to produce the sequential ledger, then we file a complaint with the secretary's state.
[40:49.240 --> 40:56.240]  And then the notary gets a notification of the complaint from the secretary's state.
[40:56.240 --> 41:02.240]  And then I want to contact the notary and say, look, you know, I'm not after you.
[41:02.240 --> 41:09.240]  And I think I understand why you don't have a sequential ledger.
[41:09.240 --> 41:33.240]  I think the reason you don't have a sequential ledger is on this particular document, what I believe is, is that this lawyer or whoever this was took your name off of a different giraffe and printed it onto this document and created the whole thing as a forgery.
[41:33.240 --> 41:40.240]  That's why you don't have a sequential ledger because you never had anything to do with it.
[41:40.240 --> 41:45.240]  These guys forged it.
[41:45.240 --> 41:56.240]  So what I'm doing is offering the notary the opportunity to feed me the lawyer.
[41:56.240 --> 42:03.240]  I don't want the notary, the notary's cannon fodder and not important.
[42:03.240 --> 42:08.240]  I want the notary to feed me the lawyer.
[42:08.240 --> 42:13.240]  If I can get the notary to say, oh, oh, oh, yeah, you're right about that.
[42:13.240 --> 42:15.240]  I mean, what's the lawyer going to do?
[42:15.240 --> 42:27.240]  He's going to say, oh, no, no, no, I forged this document with a full knowledge of that notary.
[42:27.240 --> 42:31.240]  How do I do this?
[42:31.240 --> 42:41.240]  How do I talk to the notary in a way that the notary is going to say, this guy was sitting looking over my shoulder when we did this?
[42:41.240 --> 42:53.240]  Personally, as a notary, I would say that, and I was trying to get to this the other night, was if you've already gone to the Secretary of State,
[42:53.240 --> 43:02.240]  without telling me your intention of going to the Secretary of State, then once it's to the Secretary of State,
[43:02.240 --> 43:12.240]  of course, they're going to step in and you're going to start a ball rolling, that you, as the person who files the complaint, are not able to undo.
[43:12.240 --> 43:24.240]  Well, there is something that we can do or not do, and that's file felony tampering against the notary.
[43:24.240 --> 43:35.240]  And this is the point, we want the pressure on them, but we want a way to give them, we want the Secretary of State after them,
[43:35.240 --> 43:39.240]  because we're going to need the Secretary of State through this later.
[43:39.240 --> 43:51.240]  But we're caught, we're negotiating with the notary so the notary can avoid felony charges, which goes way beyond their notary license.
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[46:02.240 --> 46:28.240]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[46:28.240 --> 46:36.240]  Alright Chris, let's wrap this up man. We got a full caller board and we got several of them that's got something directly to do with Michael's appearance tonight.
[46:36.240 --> 46:39.240]  So anything else?
[46:39.240 --> 46:45.240]  I'd like to call back on the other night. We can talk about this Randy.
[46:45.240 --> 46:48.240]  Yeah, Chris, we'll talk about this off the air.
[46:48.240 --> 46:50.240]  Alrighty.
[46:50.240 --> 46:52.240]  Alright Chris, thanks for calling in. Appreciate it.
[46:52.240 --> 46:53.240]  Thank you.
[46:53.240 --> 46:54.240]  Thank you.
[46:54.240 --> 47:00.240]  Alright, now we're going to go to John in Texas. John, what can we do for you?
[47:00.240 --> 47:03.240]  I want to talk to you about notaries.
[47:03.240 --> 47:05.240]  Okay.
[47:05.240 --> 47:10.240]  Okay, Monday, I am filing in the deed records.
[47:10.240 --> 47:17.240]  What happened was there's a title company, an attorney. I think I talked about this about three weeks ago.
[47:17.240 --> 47:25.240]  They forged the survey field notes and they took that same on, it's on a release of a lien.
[47:25.240 --> 47:32.240]  Then they carried that forgery over into a deed and then they carried it over to a deed of trust.
[47:32.240 --> 47:41.240]  Well, the attorney that forged it, filed it, they gave it to my banker and my bank.
[47:41.240 --> 47:48.240]  Wait, wait, wait. Stop. Back up. It's back up. Forged survey field notes.
[47:48.240 --> 47:49.240]  Yes.
[47:49.240 --> 47:51.240]  What does that mean?
[47:51.240 --> 47:58.240]  Okay, there's a survey, the difference between, I'm going to use an example. I'm not going to tell you the exact accuracy.
[47:58.240 --> 48:07.240]  It's 200 acres and it was really 150 and they altered the survey field notes, burying the distances, the meets and bounds.
[48:07.240 --> 48:18.240]  Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Just as a matter of form, try not to use any pronouns.
[48:18.240 --> 48:23.240]  Who specifically did the alteration?
[48:23.240 --> 48:31.240]  I'm taking the survey or did the correct survey and somebody else subsequently changed the survey?
[48:31.240 --> 48:38.240]  Yes, I had a surveyor to survey some property. It was 150 acres.
[48:38.240 --> 48:50.240]  Okay, this was part of a 200-acre track. Okay, the property was sold without my knowledge.
[48:50.240 --> 48:52.240]  It was some property that I was...
[48:52.240 --> 48:58.240]  Okay, hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. Hold on. You're going to confuse us here.
[48:58.240 --> 49:02.240]  And part of this, I guess we can consider training.
[49:02.240 --> 49:10.240]  If you were in court and I asked you the question I asked and you gave me that response, the other side would jump up and say,
[49:10.240 --> 49:29.240]  objection, objection, non-responsive. You didn't answer the question I asked. Okay, if I'm going right, you had a survey done, you paid for it, your surveyor.
[49:29.240 --> 49:37.240]  And then someone altered your surveyor's results?
[49:37.240 --> 49:40.240]  Yes.
[49:40.240 --> 49:47.240]  Oh, did they get their own surveyor to do something that was showed to be different than yours? How did this work?
[49:47.240 --> 49:52.240]  There was a same survey.
[49:52.240 --> 49:53.240]  Can I probably need to...
[49:53.240 --> 49:54.240]  Can you say that again?
[49:54.240 --> 49:58.240]  I probably need to educate you a little bit on surveyors.
[49:58.240 --> 49:59.240]  Yeah.
[49:59.240 --> 50:10.240]  A surveyor, I've surveyed for like nine years. Even though I'm a land broker and a land man, I've been doing this for like 38 years.
[50:10.240 --> 50:17.240]  Okay, if you have a survey done, survey goes out there, they'll bring you back and do a plan on the computer.
[50:17.240 --> 50:30.240]  They say, here it is right here and it has a license number on that. And if you sell it and they want to use, well, we just use the same surveyor.
[50:30.240 --> 50:40.240]  Well, they say, okay, we'll use the same surveyor, but you have to have that same surveyor go up there and re-tag it.
[50:40.240 --> 50:48.240]  He didn't re-survey it, it's called an update. And all he goes out there and checks you out, the fence has not moved to gates in their easements.
[50:48.240 --> 50:54.240]  Yeah, they're still here. The building's still here or whatever. That's an update.
[50:54.240 --> 51:03.240]  Well, on this particular property, I had it surveyed, paid for, and the property sold.
[51:03.240 --> 51:12.240]  I had a sister that did something she wasn't supposed to do. So the title company wrote a title policy on this.
[51:12.240 --> 51:21.240]  Instead of 150 acres, it was 200 acres. They kicked this other 50 acres in it at closing.
[51:21.240 --> 51:34.240]  The attorney sent the, actually, 25 words that was put into the survey field notes, this varying distances, and it changed it.
[51:34.240 --> 51:42.240]  It got the other 50 acres into it. And I never did figure out for years, but I figured out how it was done.
[51:42.240 --> 51:54.240]  Okay, okay, hold on, hold on. This is interesting. All of this property was part of the same, of one larger property.
[51:54.240 --> 51:55.240]  Yes.
[51:55.240 --> 52:03.240]  I mean, it wasn't like there was some third party that would say, you're coming on to my property claiming you own it.
[52:03.240 --> 52:08.240]  Was this one single large property that we were cutting a piece out of?
[52:08.240 --> 52:09.240]  Yes.
[52:09.240 --> 52:17.240]  So the question wouldn't be, you're going on to somebody else's property, but you're taking more of this property than you should have.
[52:17.240 --> 52:23.240]  That's correct. It's be simple. Absolute.
[52:23.240 --> 52:35.240]  So anyway, they gave it to my bank to get notarized, and I was forging, but they carried the forgery on the deed and then also the deed of trust is three.
[52:35.240 --> 52:46.240]  What I'm doing Monday, I'm putting an affidavit of ownership on this and saying they're void Ebenezo.
[52:46.240 --> 52:51.240]  Now, what's really unique is...
[52:51.240 --> 53:00.240]  Okay, wait a minute. Are you familiar with government code 51.901? Okay, again, you're in Texas, right?
[53:00.240 --> 53:02.240]  Yes.
[53:02.240 --> 53:03.240]  I'm also familiar with...
[53:03.240 --> 53:06.240]  51.901. Are you familiar with 51.901?
[53:06.240 --> 53:09.240]  Yes. I want to do that, too.
[53:09.240 --> 53:12.240]  Okay.
[53:12.240 --> 53:16.240]  Okay, so there's a claim...
[53:16.240 --> 53:21.240]  Okay, but there's parts that I don't understand here.
[53:21.240 --> 53:31.240]  Is this survey... did it survey out a portion of a larger plot?
[53:31.240 --> 53:33.240]  Yes.
[53:33.240 --> 53:39.240]  Okay, so it's not like there's some external third party that they're moving on to their property.
[53:39.240 --> 53:54.240]  So this was a larger plot. Your guys surveyed out 150 acres, and these guys changed it to 200 acres so they could snatch an extra 50 acres out of the larger plot.
[53:54.240 --> 53:55.240]  Yes.
[53:55.240 --> 53:56.240]  Am I getting that right?
[53:56.240 --> 53:57.240]  Yes.
[53:57.240 --> 53:59.240]  Okay, good, good.
[53:59.240 --> 54:02.240]  Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[54:02.240 --> 54:04.240]  So, anyway, I'm following that.
[54:04.240 --> 54:10.240]  Monday, I meant to follow it today, but it's really going to give a good case law about this.
[54:10.240 --> 54:16.240]  Notaries, because it's void. It's an automatic forgery if you...
[54:16.240 --> 54:19.240]  Excuse me?
[54:19.240 --> 54:23.240]  It's a forgery from the standpoint...
[54:23.240 --> 54:26.240]  When you notarize something, you know it's false.
[54:26.240 --> 54:31.240]  It's an automatic forgery. It goes back to 1876.
[54:31.240 --> 54:39.240]  That's the old rule of... I think it's 10,000, 6,000, 7,000, 8.
[54:39.240 --> 54:43.240]  I mean, 1800 is carried forward.
[54:43.240 --> 54:47.240]  Okay, what are you going back to in 1876?
[54:47.240 --> 54:55.240]  It's more specific. If you forge a document and then you turn around and notarize it,
[54:55.240 --> 55:00.240]  that was in 1876 and they just moved forward.
[55:00.240 --> 55:10.240]  Okay, the notary himself, how does the notary know that the document is a forgery?
[55:10.240 --> 55:14.240]  Because he put exactly 25 different...
[55:14.240 --> 55:23.240]  In the first paragraph, survey fill notes, he put 25 extra words in it to encompass that other 50 acres.
[55:23.240 --> 55:25.240]  He was the one that actually...
[55:25.240 --> 55:29.240]  Okay, wait a minute. Hold on. He hate pronouns.
[55:29.240 --> 55:38.240]  Give us a reference on the index. Instead of pronouns, give the name of the individual.
[55:38.240 --> 55:43.240]  Did the notary put that in there or did somebody else put that in there?
[55:43.240 --> 55:49.240]  The notary was also the attorney that closed it at the title company.
[55:49.240 --> 55:53.240]  And the notary... Wait a minute. Hold on.
[55:53.240 --> 56:02.240]  Did you check and see if the lawyer was registered as a notary with the Secretary of State?
[56:02.240 --> 56:05.240]  Yes. I had to go to the Archive.
[56:05.240 --> 56:06.240]  Is he?
[56:06.240 --> 56:11.240]  $2.40.
[56:11.240 --> 56:23.240]  Okay, is the lawyer an agent for a principal in the transaction?
[56:23.240 --> 56:27.240]  At the time, this was...
[56:27.240 --> 56:34.240]  At the time he did not do it, but four months later, he did get a license from the state of Texas.
[56:34.240 --> 56:41.240]  An attorney does not have to have a license to do a title policy stay in Texas.
[56:41.240 --> 56:42.240]  They can just have an agreement.
[56:42.240 --> 56:44.240]  Okay, that's right.
[56:44.240 --> 56:52.240]  Okay, but if he's not licensed as a notary, you can't hold him under $409 Texas government code.
[56:52.240 --> 56:53.240]  But he was a notary.
[56:53.240 --> 57:00.240]  He's under a different set. So this is not a notary issue.
[57:00.240 --> 57:05.240]  This is a bar issue.
[57:05.240 --> 57:06.240]  It's not serious.
[57:06.240 --> 57:16.240]  You understand. Okay, if an attorney has filed a fraudulent document, you know, this is really a...
[57:16.240 --> 57:19.240]  Okay, I'm having a little trouble getting this sorted out.
[57:19.240 --> 57:32.240]  So it appears we have a lawyer who at the time was an...acted as a notary and notarized a document that was fraudulent.
[57:32.240 --> 57:35.240]  Did the lawyer write the document?
[57:35.240 --> 57:38.240]  Yes. His name is on the document.
[57:38.240 --> 57:49.240]  And then he...okay, so he...this document wasn't actually notarized. It was filed by a lawyer. Am I correct in that?
[57:49.240 --> 57:52.240]  Lawyer. Yes.
[57:52.240 --> 57:59.240]  Okay, then we...okay, I'm being particular, but we have to ask the right question to get the right answer.
[57:59.240 --> 58:02.240]  Hang on. We're going to go to break.
[58:02.240 --> 58:09.240]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig. We have our radio. We're going to our top of the hour.
[58:09.240 --> 58:15.240]  David, Mike, Brian, I see you. We'll pick you up on the other side.
[58:15.240 --> 58:26.240]  And I apologize if I'm taking too long with this, but in order to get this sorted out, we kind of have to make sure we know exactly where we're at.
[58:26.240 --> 58:36.240]  But, John, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I do want to be particular, so that's why I'm asking all of these pointed questions.
[58:36.240 --> 58:50.240]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig with our radio. I'll call in numbers 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:24.240 --> 01:03:44.240]  Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio. Call in number 5156461984. We've got about an hour left in the show.
[01:03:44.240 --> 01:03:48.240]  Let's get this rolling and see if we can get caught up here.
[01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:55.240]  Alright, John, on this issue with everything going on with the surveyors and all that, there's too many very details here
[01:03:55.240 --> 01:03:59.240]  to give you a clear cut response on exactly what it is we're talking about.
[01:03:59.240 --> 01:04:02.240]  Cause we're not really sure what the question is or the concern is.
[01:04:02.240 --> 01:04:08.240]  So if you wouldn't mind, take that off air, send us an email or something with an organized list of date, time,
[01:04:08.240 --> 01:04:14.240]  here's the facts of what occurred on this day, and then let's see if we can step through it with you that way, okay?
[01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:15.240]  Okay.
[01:04:15.240 --> 01:04:16.240]  Alright, thanks.
[01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:22.240]  Alright, now we're going to take David in Pennsylvania. David, what can we do for you?
[01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:25.240]  I understand you have something on point with Michael.
[01:04:25.240 --> 01:04:34.240]  Uh, yeah. Hey there Eddie, Randy, and Mr. Badnarik. I sure do. I'd like to know, okay.
[01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:43.240]  Now, having listened to all these other radio shows, I'm not going to mention no names on air here,
[01:04:43.240 --> 01:04:52.240]  but, uh, talking about the President declaring martial law or suspending the Constitution,
[01:04:52.240 --> 01:05:02.240]  and my question is, the Constitution, whether it be federal or the state Constitution,
[01:05:02.240 --> 01:05:19.240]  is the only documents that authorizes their offices. By declaring martial law or suspending the Constitution for anything,
[01:05:19.240 --> 01:05:31.240]  how would that affect their office? Would they then be criminals setting an office?
[01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:37.240]  You said politician, right? When you say politician and criminal, you're already being redundant.
[01:05:37.240 --> 01:05:38.240]  Yeah.
[01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:51.240]  Your question is very insightful. The thing that you said was they get their authorization from the Constitution.
[01:05:51.240 --> 01:06:00.240]  Martial law declares there is no Constitution, which means they have just declared that they have no authority.
[01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:01.240]  Right.
[01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:13.240]  We need to remain a constitutional republic at all times. The purpose of the Constitution is to protect our life, liberty, and private property,
[01:06:13.240 --> 01:06:20.240]  and I don't give anybody the authority to suspend my Constitution.
[01:06:20.240 --> 01:06:35.240]  And again, I said earlier that we, the people, need to understand that so that we can defend the Constitution whenever Congress or any other branch of the government is being treasonous.
[01:06:35.240 --> 01:06:48.240]  So you are correct. They have no authority once they declare martial law, because they're telling you, in a sense, there is no Constitution.
[01:06:48.240 --> 01:06:57.240]  Right. Okay. Thank you. You guys have a good night, and I'm going to back on out of here and listen on here. So, later.
[01:06:57.240 --> 01:06:58.240]  Thank you.
[01:06:58.240 --> 01:07:00.240]  All right, David, thanks for calling in.
[01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:06.240]  Okay, now we're going to go to Mike in Texas. Mike, what can we do for you?
[01:07:06.240 --> 01:07:22.240]  Well, I guess what I had to offer is more of a rhetorical question, but I did get a response back from the Court of Criminal Appeals today, and they projected even looking at my documents.
[01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:35.240]  And I was wondering, I've had a real difficult time having any of the courts look at any of my documents on the way up from City of Austin on the way up to Travis County, Third Court of Appeals.
[01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:38.240]  Now the Court of Criminal Appeals, they just won't even look at them.
[01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:45.240]  And I was wondering if my only remedy to go federal, if that isn't even as a remedy?
[01:07:45.240 --> 01:07:52.240]  Well, you can always appeal up to the Supreme Court after you go to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.
[01:07:52.240 --> 01:08:01.240]  Okay. Okay, I guess that's probably the next step. I don't, okay, I can give that a try.
[01:08:01.240 --> 01:08:08.240]  They didn't give a reason. They just said, they did accept it, and for some reason they just said rejected.
[01:08:08.240 --> 01:08:14.240]  Well, you're expecting these folks to actually deliver competent justice, and that's a mistake.
[01:08:14.240 --> 01:08:21.240]  Yeah, that is, you know, I'm getting to believe that's a little bit overestimate.
[01:08:21.240 --> 01:08:27.240]  But is it possible to take a state case federal?
[01:08:27.240 --> 01:08:34.240]  Absolutely. It's got a palable error that the state won't address that violates a federally protected right.
[01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:42.240]  Okay. What statutes? It depends on the right, but associate with whatever statute limitations.
[01:08:42.240 --> 01:08:46.240]  Well, that you'd look up under Title 42.
[01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:48.240]  Okay.
[01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:50.240]  Okay. All right.
[01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:57.240]  That's all that I had. That was kind of a bland feather question. Sorry about that.
[01:08:57.240 --> 01:08:59.240]  That's all right. Thanks for throwing in, Mike.
[01:08:59.240 --> 01:09:01.240]  Well, thank you very much.
[01:09:01.240 --> 01:09:06.240]  Yep. All right. Now we're going to go to Brian in Texas. Brian, what do you got?
[01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:10.240]  Hey, guys. Good evening. Love your show, as usual.
[01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:15.240]  What a first question was, Mr. Buckner, was he planning on coming to Dallas anytime soon?
[01:09:15.240 --> 01:09:18.240]  If not, why not?
[01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:25.240]  I am not, and because I don't have anybody there willing to take my class to pay for my trip,
[01:09:25.240 --> 01:09:31.240]  I'm happy to teach my Constitution class as often as possible.
[01:09:31.240 --> 01:09:41.240]  Unfortunately, either because they've lost their job and don't have any money or they just don't care about the Constitution,
[01:09:41.240 --> 01:09:46.240]  I can't get enough people to sign up for my class.
[01:09:46.240 --> 01:09:54.240]  So if you can get 25 people willing to pay me to teach the class, I'll be in Dallas tomorrow.
[01:09:54.240 --> 01:09:59.240]  All right. I'll see if I can work on that for you.
[01:09:59.240 --> 01:10:01.240]  What's your website again?
[01:10:01.240 --> 01:10:05.240]  Constitutionpreservation.org.
[01:10:05.240 --> 01:10:09.240]  That's what it is. Okay. All right.
[01:10:09.240 --> 01:10:13.240]  You were saying earlier this evening I really enjoyed what you're talking about.
[01:10:13.240 --> 01:10:19.240]  The Federal Reserve in Roosevelt, how he stole the gold and took away the rights to the property rights,
[01:10:19.240 --> 01:10:28.240]  all that from the people and basically put a fine or kind of prison time for not turning it in and all that.
[01:10:28.240 --> 01:10:33.240]  I had, when I was growing up as a kid here, the teenager, I had a next-door neighbor of mine
[01:10:33.240 --> 01:10:41.240]  whose grandfather, actually the grandfather that took the newsletter, Ron Paul, that he distributed years ago.
[01:10:41.240 --> 01:10:53.240]  And that's how I was introduced to the whole Ron Paul person and his agenda and Federal Reserve matter,
[01:10:53.240 --> 01:11:02.240]  being private bank and basically the organization that it is and what it's doing to the country.
[01:11:02.240 --> 01:11:09.240]  I learned all that way back when and I'm so grateful for that.
[01:11:09.240 --> 01:11:19.240]  But there's a, I'm sure you're aware, I think it was back in the 70s that he, along with Jimmy Blanchard,
[01:11:19.240 --> 01:11:29.240]  co-authored the legislation that overturned that ruling by Roosevelt and kind of made it legal again to own gold
[01:11:29.240 --> 01:11:34.240]  in the form of coins and things like that. Are you aware of that?
[01:11:34.240 --> 01:11:40.240]  No, I didn't. I wasn't aware of it.
[01:11:40.240 --> 01:11:50.240]  Yeah, I think you can go online and Google his, those two names and those guys kind of, you know,
[01:11:50.240 --> 01:11:55.240]  just worked together to introduce that legislation. I don't remember the name of everything,
[01:11:55.240 --> 01:11:59.240]  but Jimmy Blanchard and Ron Paul worked together on that. It was a really beautiful thing.
[01:11:59.240 --> 01:12:09.240]  So that's where I was wanting to come in and thank you for who you are and what you do because I really enjoy listening to you.
[01:12:09.240 --> 01:12:11.240]  Thank you. I appreciate that.
[01:12:11.240 --> 01:12:16.240]  Anna, yeah, I'd just like to say I'd like to put the New World Order gang on notice.
[01:12:16.240 --> 01:12:24.240]  You've got my middle finger, guys. I hate you all. So that's what I wanted to say.
[01:12:24.240 --> 01:12:35.240]  You're going to love my new book. Put your email address on my newsletter list if it's not already.
[01:12:35.240 --> 01:12:48.240]  Because I've just written a new book. It's in the proofreading stage and it should be available here in the next two or three weeks.
[01:12:48.240 --> 01:12:51.240]  I'll do it. I'll look for it on your website then, huh?
[01:12:51.240 --> 01:12:53.240]  Absolutely. Thanks.
[01:12:53.240 --> 01:12:57.240]  Okay, thanks.
[01:12:57.240 --> 01:13:06.240]  All right. Now we're going to go to Chris in Texas. Chris, what can we do for you?
[01:13:06.240 --> 01:13:12.240]  Hello, Chris.
[01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:16.240]  All right. Well, I guess Chris is no longer paying attention to his call.
[01:13:16.240 --> 01:13:20.240]  We'll try to get back to him in a few minutes. All right, Michael, that pretty much clears up the board at the moment.
[01:13:20.240 --> 01:13:27.240]  Chris calling number 512-646-1984. We got about 45 minutes left in the show.
[01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:36.240]  Let's get back on the board and get in line. If you were thinking you weren't going to make it before, you got a little bit of time left, so give us a call.
[01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:40.240]  What about on any of these other topics we've gone over tonight, Michael?
[01:13:40.240 --> 01:13:51.240]  Do you like to go into as far as any of that, or is there anything new you want to bring up in relation to where you see we're headed right now, nationwide, and so on?
[01:13:51.240 --> 01:14:09.240]  I sometimes have a difficult time answering people, not because I don't have a comment or an opinion, but I have pretty much stopped caring what the government thinks or the government says.
[01:14:09.240 --> 01:14:18.240]  Because, you know, I hold the opinion that most of what they do is unconstitutional.
[01:14:18.240 --> 01:14:32.240]  Just because something is a law doesn't make it okay, I want to remind people that Adolf Hitler never did anything against law.
[01:14:32.240 --> 01:14:40.240]  He just passed a new law that would allow him to do the atrocities that he perpetrated.
[01:14:40.240 --> 01:14:53.240]  And so when Congress ratified, you know, not Congress doesn't ratify, but when the prohibition amendment is ratified, I'm not going to pay attention to that.
[01:14:53.240 --> 01:15:05.240]  The government has no authority to tell me I can't drink alcohol, 23,000 anti-gun laws in the United States, as far as I'm concerned, are totally meaningless.
[01:15:05.240 --> 01:15:13.240]  They don't apply to me because I have an inherent, unalienable right to defend myself.
[01:15:13.240 --> 01:15:23.240]  This is pretty much what my book is about, is, I mean, your parents talk to the difference between right and wrong, use your head.
[01:15:23.240 --> 01:15:37.240]  And just because some bureaucrat stands there and profusely tells you that, oh, we passed this law and you're not allowed to do this, you're not allowed to do that, you've got to pay us money and fines and do all this other stuff,
[01:15:37.240 --> 01:15:44.240]  don't follow along just because somebody told you or threatened you.
[01:15:44.240 --> 01:15:56.240]  If you want to be sovereign, first of all, you've got to know the difference between right and wrong, and then you've got to have the courage to stand up for what is right and wrong.
[01:15:56.240 --> 01:16:04.240]  Most of what the government does, they get away with because of this aura of respectability.
[01:16:04.240 --> 01:16:19.240]  And just because somebody's wearing a uniform and a badge doesn't give them the right to drag you from the car, handcuff you, and then taser you three times after you've been handcuffed.
[01:16:19.240 --> 01:16:29.240]  The purpose of having a police force is to protect and defend your right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[01:16:29.240 --> 01:16:38.240]  And being a police officer doesn't give you carte blanche to do anything you want.
[01:16:38.240 --> 01:16:40.240]  I'd have to go along with that.
[01:16:40.240 --> 01:16:45.240]  All right, folks, call in number 512-646-1984.
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[01:16:47.240 --> 01:16:50.240]  Chris, I'll try you again when we get back on the other side of the break.
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[01:19:44.240 --> 01:19:48.240]  We're going to try Chris in Texas one more time. Chris, are you back yet?
[01:19:48.240 --> 01:19:49.240]  Yes sir, I am.
[01:19:49.240 --> 01:19:51.240]  Alright, what can we do for you?
[01:19:51.240 --> 01:20:06.240]  I was only calling in to let Randy know about the fact that any attorney, as soon as they become an attorney, are also considered to be a notary for the Secretary of State.
[01:20:06.240 --> 01:20:09.240]  Alright, well that's good to know.
[01:20:09.240 --> 01:20:12.240]  That's interesting. I've never heard that before.
[01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:19.240]  Yeah, I don't think the attorneys know that they're automatically a notary for the attorney for the state.
[01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:21.240]  Okay, Chris.
[01:20:21.240 --> 01:20:23.240]  Now are you saying the attorney general?
[01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:27.240]  I don't know, any attorney.
[01:20:27.240 --> 01:20:30.240]  Is a notary for who?
[01:20:30.240 --> 01:20:32.240]  For the Secretary of State, they do not.
[01:20:32.240 --> 01:20:36.240]  Okay, Secretary of State, okay.
[01:20:36.240 --> 01:20:37.240]  Chris.
[01:20:37.240 --> 01:20:40.240]  Yes sir.
[01:20:40.240 --> 01:20:56.240]  What authority does the Secretary of State have to have to regulate a lawyer who's acting in the capacity of a notary?
[01:20:56.240 --> 01:21:01.240]  As far as notarizing documents that he would have a interest in?
[01:21:01.240 --> 01:21:15.240]  Well, I just read 409 of Texas Government Code that regulates notaries and it says absolutely nothing about a lawyer.
[01:21:15.240 --> 01:21:16.240]  As far as...
[01:21:16.240 --> 01:21:17.240]  Where does...
[01:21:17.240 --> 01:21:29.240]  Okay, it's reasonable that a lawyer can act as a notary and that's, you know, some states, in order to be a notary, you have to be a lawyer.
[01:21:29.240 --> 01:21:32.240]  And in other states, you don't.
[01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:34.240]  If a lawyer...
[01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:43.240]  I didn't see anything in any of 409 that said anything about a lawyer.
[01:21:43.240 --> 01:21:44.240]  You might try 406...
[01:21:44.240 --> 01:21:47.240]  Where is that?
[01:21:47.240 --> 01:21:51.240]  You might try 406 of the Government Code.
[01:21:51.240 --> 01:21:54.240]  Or, I don't remember the civil...
[01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:59.240]  Oh, was it 406 or 409 that regulates notaries?
[01:21:59.240 --> 01:22:02.240]  406 of the Government Code.
[01:22:02.240 --> 01:22:04.240]  Okay, my mistake.
[01:22:04.240 --> 01:22:13.240]  406, I didn't see anything in there that said anything about a lawyer.
[01:22:13.240 --> 01:22:28.240]  It has always been my understanding as a notary that all attorneys are automatically granted a notary from the day they become an attorney.
[01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:34.240]  Okay, your understanding is not sufficient.
[01:22:34.240 --> 01:22:39.240]  If it's not in code, it does not exist.
[01:22:39.240 --> 01:22:48.240]  I went through all of 406 and I didn't find anything that referred to a lawyer.
[01:22:48.240 --> 01:22:50.240]  Not one word.
[01:22:50.240 --> 01:22:59.240]  When I get back to the house, I will look it up and send it to you.
[01:22:59.240 --> 01:23:02.240]  Yeah, I would very much like to see that.
[01:23:02.240 --> 01:23:23.240]  Because if the lawyer is a notary by virtue of being a lawyer, and if the lawyer breaches the code that applies to notaries, then we should be able to get his bar card pulled.
[01:23:23.240 --> 01:23:28.240]  A notary, you can revoke their license.
[01:23:28.240 --> 01:23:39.240]  So if we can revoke a notary's license, if a lawyer is acting in the capacity of a notary, we should revoke, be able to revoke.
[01:23:39.240 --> 01:23:47.240]  The Secretary of State should be able to revoke his license.
[01:23:47.240 --> 01:23:50.240]  I didn't see that in code anywhere.
[01:23:50.240 --> 01:24:02.240]  And it is no different than when you go down to the file clerk of the courthouse, she's a notary without needing to file for to become a notary.
[01:24:02.240 --> 01:24:08.240]  No, no, she, okay, she is specifically referenced in code.
[01:24:08.240 --> 01:24:12.240]  The clerk is, but not a lawyer.
[01:24:12.240 --> 01:24:14.240]  He's not in there anywhere.
[01:24:14.240 --> 01:24:24.240]  It's specific in 406 that the clerk can act as a notary, not a lawyer.
[01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:28.240]  It's more powerful than I was for some reason.
[01:24:28.240 --> 01:24:30.240]  Wait, say that again?
[01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:36.240]  There still seems to have more power than the still of a notary.
[01:24:36.240 --> 01:24:39.240]  Of course, she's part of the good old boy network.
[01:24:39.240 --> 01:24:43.240]  But where does the lawyer get the power to act as a notary?
[01:24:43.240 --> 01:24:46.240]  I don't see that in law anywhere.
[01:24:46.240 --> 01:24:55.240]  I don't have to be when I expect to the house to be, because I already left my house and I'm not sitting in front of the computer anymore.
[01:24:55.240 --> 01:24:58.240]  Okay, that was something I'd like to see.
[01:24:58.240 --> 01:25:02.240]  You know, this is one of the things I'm very careful about.
[01:25:02.240 --> 01:25:07.240]  I understand that you're in the business and you see how things are done.
[01:25:07.240 --> 01:25:16.240]  And the one thing that's important to understand that just because something is done in a certain way doesn't mean it's legal,
[01:25:16.240 --> 01:25:20.240]  especially when you're talking about lawyers and judges.
[01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:22.240]  Amen to that.
[01:25:22.240 --> 01:25:26.240]  God, say that again, Michael.
[01:25:26.240 --> 01:25:28.240]  Amen to that.
[01:25:28.240 --> 01:25:34.240]  I agree that just because they do it doesn't mean that it's justifiable.
[01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:41.240]  Yeah, and this is what we have to sort out.
[01:25:41.240 --> 01:25:52.240]  What is the difference between how things have always been done and what the law authorizes?
[01:25:52.240 --> 01:26:03.240]  That's a line that's really hard to draw because we have all these unstated presuppositions that we act from.
[01:26:03.240 --> 01:26:05.240]  We just accept this.
[01:26:05.240 --> 01:26:14.240]  Ah, yeah, a lawyer can just verify a document and nobody ever questions it.
[01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:22.240]  And so now I'm questioning how exactly does a lawyer get that power?
[01:26:22.240 --> 01:26:31.240]  It has to be stipulated somewhere or it does not exist, period.
[01:26:31.240 --> 01:26:37.240]  Now, I don't care if judges want lawyers to be able to do this.
[01:26:37.240 --> 01:26:43.240]  You know, in every state, the lawyers want to be notaries.
[01:26:43.240 --> 01:26:46.240]  They want to be the only ones who can do this.
[01:26:46.240 --> 01:26:59.240]  Every state where they have notaries that are not lawyers, the lawyers gripe and complain that they should be able to make all this money and not the notaries.
[01:26:59.240 --> 01:27:05.240]  So they fight against the notaries to get them out so the lawyers can do all of this.
[01:27:05.240 --> 01:27:14.240]  And when they don't have the law to do it, the lawyers and judges try to do it by presumption.
[01:27:14.240 --> 01:27:25.240]  And if somebody doesn't come back with chapter and verse and finite detail to take this away from them, then they can do it.
[01:27:25.240 --> 01:27:30.240]  They want to as long as they can get corrupt judges to accept it.
[01:27:30.240 --> 01:27:37.240]  So I'm being an engineer here and I'm paying real close attention to detail.
[01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:46.240]  Chris, if you can find it, tell me exactly how these lawyers get this authority.
[01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:55.240]  If they don't have it by statute, they don't have it at all.
[01:27:55.240 --> 01:27:57.240]  When I get back to the house, Randy, I'll find it.
[01:27:57.240 --> 01:28:02.240]  And if I can't find it, I'll just send it over to you and say, hey, I'm wrong.
[01:28:02.240 --> 01:28:03.240]  But it's fine.
[01:28:03.240 --> 01:28:12.240]  I'll send it to you and let you know because what you're saying about attorneys think that they should be able to do it all.
[01:28:12.240 --> 01:28:29.240]  But it's either Massachusetts or somewhere up north right now that we have a state where the attorneys are actually actively trying to get legislation passed to where no one can be a notary except an attorney.
[01:28:29.240 --> 01:28:32.240]  There are a number of states where that's already the case.
[01:28:32.240 --> 01:28:34.240]  Yes, you're correct.
[01:28:34.240 --> 01:28:41.240]  And lawyers always want that to be the case because they want to make that money.
[01:28:41.240 --> 01:28:54.240]  And I thought it was most interesting that you had a lawyer with your company that stopped doing legal work and became a notary because it made more money.
[01:28:54.240 --> 01:28:56.240]  Yes, that's in California.
[01:28:56.240 --> 01:28:58.240]  He's in California.
[01:28:58.240 --> 01:29:01.240]  That is incredible.
[01:29:01.240 --> 01:29:08.240]  That's enough to make the move to California because as a notary, heck, you don't get involved in litigation.
[01:29:08.240 --> 01:29:16.240]  You're not woken up two o'clock in the morning to come get some sleazy scumbag chump out of jail.
[01:29:16.240 --> 01:29:23.240]  I had my prosecuting attorney here in Wise County said, why don't you go to school to become a lawyer?
[01:29:23.240 --> 01:29:28.240]  I said, man, look at these scumbags you have to deal with.
[01:29:28.240 --> 01:29:36.240]  I wouldn't want to have to even talk to these people, much less try to represent them.
[01:29:36.240 --> 01:29:38.240]  Okay, so we're about to go to break.
[01:29:38.240 --> 01:29:42.240]  This is Randy Keltner, Deputy Chief of State Craig Ruebler Radio.
[01:29:42.240 --> 01:29:49.240]  And as a notary, I wouldn't have to worry about these scumbags.
[01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:52.240]  I don't know why anybody would want to be a lawyer.
[01:29:52.240 --> 01:30:00.240]  My call at number 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
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[01:32:29.240 --> 01:32:49.240]  All right folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio.
[01:32:49.240 --> 01:32:55.240]  All right, we're in our last half hour. All right, Christy, anything else you got?
[01:32:55.240 --> 01:32:58.240]  That was it. Now get that to you Randy.
[01:32:58.240 --> 01:33:02.240]  All right, Chris, thanks for calling in. We'll be ready to be looking for it.
[01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:05.240]  All right, now we're going to go to Garrett in Texas.
[01:33:05.240 --> 01:33:07.240]  Garrett, what can we do for you?
[01:33:07.240 --> 01:33:09.240]  Oklahoma City.
[01:33:09.240 --> 01:33:12.240]  All right, I'm sorry, Oklahoma. I'm sorry, I'm being cross-eyed here.
[01:33:12.240 --> 01:33:14.240]  Okay, that's a little windy.
[01:33:14.240 --> 01:33:22.240]  Hey, all right. Well, wanted to know a little bit if y'all have been researching on the Patriot Act
[01:33:22.240 --> 01:33:29.240]  and I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about it, but you know, and there's no fly.
[01:33:29.240 --> 01:33:34.240]  I quit reading it when I realized Patriot didn't mean me.
[01:33:34.240 --> 01:33:44.240]  Yeah, tell me. It's a bad deal. I mean, it's really sad. It's a sad, sad thing and I'd like to see it disappear,
[01:33:44.240 --> 01:33:51.240]  but you know, with the sheeple and all the people out there that just believe what they want to believe,
[01:33:51.240 --> 01:33:58.240]  they just go along with it. They just, I'm afraid it's not going to go away and it kind of worries me.
[01:33:58.240 --> 01:34:03.240]  But you know, I'll lose all my hair if I keep talking about it, but we'll see what happens.
[01:34:03.240 --> 01:34:11.240]  But you know, all you can do is read about it and just try to work around it if you have to.
[01:34:11.240 --> 01:34:14.240]  You know, I understand it. That's the main thing.
[01:34:14.240 --> 01:34:22.240]  The question about that is, you know, this is a no fly act. They got a no fly list. I'm kind of curious.
[01:34:22.240 --> 01:34:26.240]  Well, how in the heck, if you're on the fly, no fly list, right?
[01:34:26.240 --> 01:34:33.240]  You know, how do you leave, how do you go on vacate if you don't own an airplane or have a buddy that does or something?
[01:34:33.240 --> 01:34:38.240]  Well, how do you leave the country if you're stuck on the stupid no fly list
[01:34:38.240 --> 01:34:45.240]  and how in the heck do you even wind up getting on one of these things and who puts you on the no fly list, you know?
[01:34:45.240 --> 01:34:54.240]  Well, all good questions, but all with the same answer. People that have no authority to do any of it.
[01:34:54.240 --> 01:35:09.240]  See, there's a thing about being a public servant. They forgot what that second word means.
[01:35:09.240 --> 01:35:10.240]  Servant?
[01:35:10.240 --> 01:35:16.240]  Yeah. They've completely forgotten what that capacity means.
[01:35:16.240 --> 01:35:19.240]  Right. They're working for our tax money.
[01:35:19.240 --> 01:35:24.240]  They're working for us, you know.
[01:35:24.240 --> 01:35:35.240]  Well, we need to take blame for a lot of this on our own because we, the people, have let them get away with it for so long.
[01:35:35.240 --> 01:35:46.240]  You know, as I said much earlier in the program, most people claim to be patriotic Americans have no clue how many articles are in the Constitution.
[01:35:46.240 --> 01:35:56.240]  So they're clearly not equipped intellectually to be able to decide what is or is not constitutional.
[01:35:56.240 --> 01:36:01.240]  Right. The public school system. The public school system didn't teach me any of that either, really.
[01:36:01.240 --> 01:36:06.240]  I did get some good education while I was in elementary school here in Oklahoma City.
[01:36:06.240 --> 01:36:15.240]  A lot of things that they don't teach in California, okay, say, but actually, and I'm quite surprised, it was pretty good over here.
[01:36:15.240 --> 01:36:20.240]  It wasn't that bad, but I didn't learn things like that.
[01:36:20.240 --> 01:36:23.240]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're from Oklahoma.
[01:36:23.240 --> 01:36:24.240]  Oh, yes, sir.
[01:36:24.240 --> 01:36:38.240]  I had a friend move down from Oklahoma to Texas and he lowered the average IQ of both states.
[01:36:38.240 --> 01:36:40.240]  Just kidding.
[01:36:40.240 --> 01:36:43.240]  Oh boy.
[01:36:43.240 --> 01:36:45.240]  I think there's...
[01:36:45.240 --> 01:36:49.240]  Okay. Oh, you weekend is coming up.
[01:36:49.240 --> 01:36:56.240]  So it's perfectly acceptable for Texans to disrespect Oklahomans.
[01:36:56.240 --> 01:37:04.240]  We have a lot of intelligent folks that know what's really going on out this way.
[01:37:04.240 --> 01:37:06.240]  Yeah.
[01:37:06.240 --> 01:37:11.240]  Okay. Hold on, Garrett, and let me qualify that.
[01:37:11.240 --> 01:37:16.240]  The Congressman Key, he's the Oklahoma Congressman.
[01:37:16.240 --> 01:37:18.240]  That's right.
[01:37:18.240 --> 01:37:22.240]  He absolutely understands what's going on.
[01:37:22.240 --> 01:37:31.240]  And if Congressman Key moved to Texas, good chance he would raise the average IQ of both states.
[01:37:31.240 --> 01:37:34.240]  Yeah, Key. I think he's on the east side or something.
[01:37:34.240 --> 01:37:36.240]  Yeah, Allen Key.
[01:37:36.240 --> 01:37:41.240]  Representative Key is a state representative.
[01:37:41.240 --> 01:37:46.240]  Yes, he's a state representative and he is the real deal.
[01:37:46.240 --> 01:37:48.240]  Yeah.
[01:37:48.240 --> 01:37:54.240]  Okay. I picked on Oklahoma. Now I owe Oklahoma back.
[01:37:54.240 --> 01:38:02.240]  NAFTA, the superhighway that we're trying to put through from Mexico to Canada,
[01:38:02.240 --> 01:38:05.240]  right through the middle of the United States.
[01:38:05.240 --> 01:38:15.240]  Oklahoma is the one that had the courage to stand up to the federal government and say,
[01:38:15.240 --> 01:38:17.240]  screw you.
[01:38:17.240 --> 01:38:20.240]  That thing is not coming through our state.
[01:38:20.240 --> 01:38:27.240]  I will have to admit I was most impressed with Oklahoma.
[01:38:27.240 --> 01:38:29.240]  All them truckers are licensed out of here.
[01:38:29.240 --> 01:38:32.240]  They all get their tags out here, you know?
[01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:38.240]  Or I believe mostly Oklahoma because it's affordable with truck drivers.
[01:38:38.240 --> 01:38:42.240]  But anyway, back to that no-fly list. What do you think about that?
[01:38:42.240 --> 01:38:47.240]  How in the hell do you go overseas if you're on this list?
[01:38:47.240 --> 01:38:50.240]  That's a funny question.
[01:38:50.240 --> 01:38:55.240]  Okay. This is an issue that's been brought up a number of times.
[01:38:55.240 --> 01:39:08.240]  And the no-fly list has, there's been a lot of litigation to indicate that it is absolutely unconscionable.
[01:39:08.240 --> 01:39:20.240]  However, the problem is this is the federal government trying to take control and militarize the governmental agencies
[01:39:20.240 --> 01:39:29.240]  to turn the sovereign citizens of the country into civilians.
[01:39:29.240 --> 01:39:33.240]  That doesn't make much sense.
[01:39:33.240 --> 01:39:36.240]  I'm a combat veteran.
[01:39:36.240 --> 01:39:53.240]  And when military uses the term civilian, that refers to a person existing in an occupied country.
[01:39:53.240 --> 01:40:00.240]  I actually had a police officer refer to me as a civilian.
[01:40:00.240 --> 01:40:04.240]  That's scary. That's very scary.
[01:40:04.240 --> 01:40:09.240]  All of us should be terrified by that.
[01:40:09.240 --> 01:40:12.240]  This officer referred to me as a civilian.
[01:40:12.240 --> 01:40:16.240]  I said, are you kidding me?
[01:40:16.240 --> 01:40:22.240]  Do you understand what I really am?
[01:40:22.240 --> 01:40:26.240]  I am no civilian. This is no occupied country.
[01:40:26.240 --> 01:40:31.240]  You are no military officer.
[01:40:31.240 --> 01:40:37.240]  I am the sovereign. You are the servant and you are not to forget it.
[01:40:37.240 --> 01:40:45.240]  You put it so good. You put it good. But that's 100% right?
[01:40:45.240 --> 01:40:55.240]  Everything about our show is really about that issue.
[01:40:55.240 --> 01:41:10.240]  If we can get, say, two in 100 civilians in any occupied country to realize that they are not civilians,
[01:41:10.240 --> 01:41:20.240]  but they are the sovereigns, and then give them the tools they need to express their sovereignty,
[01:41:20.240 --> 01:41:22.240]  we can change everything.
[01:41:22.240 --> 01:41:37.240]  It's a little bit of an attempt at the state capitol, but that was the, you know, the page.
[01:41:37.240 --> 01:41:44.240]  What's the new thing, you know, the Republican thing?
[01:41:44.240 --> 01:41:46.240]  And they all protested.
[01:41:46.240 --> 01:41:50.240]  I was there. I stopped. I didn't watch.
[01:41:50.240 --> 01:41:58.240]  They're all about the same thing. At least that's a part of what you're talking about, trying to get people to organize.
[01:41:58.240 --> 01:42:01.240]  What's that movement? It's popular.
[01:42:01.240 --> 01:42:05.240]  So the Tea Party movement. Occupy Wall Street?
[01:42:05.240 --> 01:42:08.240]  Yeah. Good, good thing. Oh, I don't know.
[01:42:08.240 --> 01:42:13.240]  I mean, at least I think it's, well, from the outside looking in, I think it's not bad.
[01:42:13.240 --> 01:42:17.240]  At least it's some sort of movement that's trying to get something going.
[01:42:17.240 --> 01:42:25.240]  Okay. Listen, I am a ex-combat veteran, and I was a good combat soldier.
[01:42:25.240 --> 01:42:28.240]  We are in combat here.
[01:42:28.240 --> 01:42:35.240]  A good soldier doesn't just go out and drag out anything he's got and throw him at the enemy.
[01:42:35.240 --> 01:42:40.240]  A good soldier backs up and looks at the best tools he has.
[01:42:40.240 --> 01:42:47.240]  And in looking at Oklahoma, Oklahoma is kind of dead center in the United States.
[01:42:47.240 --> 01:42:55.240]  And from what I've seen in Oklahoma, you may be actually the point of change.
[01:42:55.240 --> 01:43:00.240]  Oklahoma has actually stood up against the government, the federal government,
[01:43:00.240 --> 01:43:05.240]  and did those things that a good combat soldier does.
[01:43:05.240 --> 01:43:09.240]  He finds those tools that serve him best.
[01:43:09.240 --> 01:43:14.240]  He picks those battles that serve him best and only fights the battles
[01:43:14.240 --> 01:43:17.240]  that would lead him toward his initial outcome.
[01:43:17.240 --> 01:43:20.240]  And Oklahoma has been very good at that.
[01:43:20.240 --> 01:43:25.240]  They stopped the federal government dead in their tracks.
[01:43:25.240 --> 01:43:27.240]  Yeah.
[01:43:27.240 --> 01:43:34.240]  And, you know, Oklahoma is kind of ignored by everybody.
[01:43:34.240 --> 01:43:38.240]  But when I look at Oklahoma, the more I hear from Oklahoma,
[01:43:38.240 --> 01:43:45.240]  that may be the place where the charm is laid for our sovereignty.
[01:43:45.240 --> 01:43:49.240]  That's right. I'm glad we're ignored a little bit, at least right now.
[01:43:49.240 --> 01:43:51.240]  Okay, we're going to break.
[01:43:51.240 --> 01:43:54.240]  Randy Kelton, David Stevenson, David Craig, we're on radio.
[01:43:54.240 --> 01:43:57.240]  Call it number 512-646-1984.
[01:43:57.240 --> 01:43:59.240]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:30.240 --> 01:46:33.240]  We're going to go ahead and finish up with Garrett here.
[01:46:33.240 --> 01:46:36.240]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:46:36.240 --> 01:46:38.240]  We are in our last segment.
[01:46:38.240 --> 01:46:40.240]  Garrett is our last caller,
[01:46:40.240 --> 01:46:42.240]  so we may have time for one more if we get him wrapped up.
[01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:44.240]  All right, Garrett, go ahead.
[01:46:44.240 --> 01:46:48.240]  Yeah, anyway, that's just a...
[01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:51.240]  You know, how would I...
[01:46:51.240 --> 01:46:54.240]  If I was happened to be on a no-fly list,
[01:46:54.240 --> 01:46:57.240]  what would I do? What do you think?
[01:46:57.240 --> 01:46:59.240]  If I can't get on a private plane,
[01:46:59.240 --> 01:47:02.240]  and how in the heck would I wind up on one?
[01:47:02.240 --> 01:47:05.240]  I'm not saying that I am, because I'm not,
[01:47:05.240 --> 01:47:10.240]  but I haven't forbid that it expands, you know,
[01:47:10.240 --> 01:47:12.240]  in the future.
[01:47:12.240 --> 01:47:13.240]  That's the weird part.
[01:47:13.240 --> 01:47:15.240]  Know what I mean?
[01:47:15.240 --> 01:47:17.240]  Yeah, I know what you mean.
[01:47:17.240 --> 01:47:19.240]  It will expand,
[01:47:19.240 --> 01:47:21.240]  and you don't know that you're not on one
[01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:24.240]  because you're not trying to go through security at the moment.
[01:47:24.240 --> 01:47:28.240]  You may have been added in, you know,
[01:47:28.240 --> 01:47:31.240]  the last couple days.
[01:47:31.240 --> 01:47:34.240]  And, you know,
[01:47:34.240 --> 01:47:37.240]  as far as getting out of the country,
[01:47:37.240 --> 01:47:39.240]  I mean, if that's really what you want to do,
[01:47:39.240 --> 01:47:42.240]  there are always sailboats.
[01:47:42.240 --> 01:47:44.240]  You know, I could teach you how to sail,
[01:47:44.240 --> 01:47:46.240]  and you can leave that way.
[01:47:46.240 --> 01:47:48.240]  But as far as I'm concerned, this is my country.
[01:47:48.240 --> 01:47:50.240]  I'm not leaving.
[01:47:50.240 --> 01:47:55.240]  And I'm staying to make sure that we do restore
[01:47:55.240 --> 01:47:58.240]  a constitutional republic.
[01:47:58.240 --> 01:48:00.240]  And my biggest effort is to try to teach people
[01:48:00.240 --> 01:48:05.240]  what the hell that is.
[01:48:05.240 --> 01:48:10.240]  Works for me.
[01:48:10.240 --> 01:48:15.240]  So, anything else, Garrett?
[01:48:15.240 --> 01:48:16.240]  Nope, it's not here.
[01:48:16.240 --> 01:48:19.240]  It's for a few months, right?
[01:48:19.240 --> 01:48:21.240]  Say that one more time.
[01:48:21.240 --> 01:48:25.240]  Say I wanted to leave on vacation for two or three months.
[01:48:25.240 --> 01:48:29.240]  If I was to leave on vacation for two or three months,
[01:48:29.240 --> 01:48:31.240]  you know, I mean, what would I do
[01:48:31.240 --> 01:48:33.240]  if you happen to be on a no-fly list,
[01:48:33.240 --> 01:48:36.240]  you know, and you want to leave for two or three months?
[01:48:36.240 --> 01:48:37.240]  What would I do?
[01:48:37.240 --> 01:48:41.240]  Go out of Canada, go to Mexico, and then take a flight?
[01:48:41.240 --> 01:48:43.240]  Am I allowed to...
[01:48:43.240 --> 01:48:46.240]  Do you think you're allowed to leave out of Mexico or Canada
[01:48:46.240 --> 01:48:48.240]  on an airplane flight, and then you...
[01:48:48.240 --> 01:48:49.240]  You keep saying a word.
[01:48:49.240 --> 01:48:51.240]  I don't think Mike or I either won
[01:48:51.240 --> 01:48:56.240]  or are going to play along with, and that's allow.
[01:48:56.240 --> 01:48:59.240]  You're taking the wrong approach to this.
[01:48:59.240 --> 01:49:03.240]  On vacation.
[01:49:03.240 --> 01:49:04.240]  Yeah.
[01:49:04.240 --> 01:49:06.240]  That's no idea what that is.
[01:49:06.240 --> 01:49:09.240]  Yeah, since when do we have to ask the government
[01:49:09.240 --> 01:49:13.240]  to allow us to do something we have an absolute right to do?
[01:49:13.240 --> 01:49:17.240]  That's one of the reasons I refuse to get a concealed carry permit.
[01:49:17.240 --> 01:49:20.240]  The airlines are private companies.
[01:49:20.240 --> 01:49:23.240]  It should be the airline's decision to search me.
[01:49:23.240 --> 01:49:28.240]  It should be the airline...
[01:49:28.240 --> 01:49:29.240]  Hello, Garrett.
[01:49:29.240 --> 01:49:35.240]  We don't disagree.
[01:49:35.240 --> 01:49:36.240]  All right.
[01:49:36.240 --> 01:49:41.240]  Now, as far as that, yeah, we don't disagree,
[01:49:41.240 --> 01:49:43.240]  and this is the way that I think we should have handled it
[01:49:43.240 --> 01:49:47.240]  when the Fed was trying to tell us
[01:49:47.240 --> 01:49:50.240]  we couldn't get the PSA kicked out of the airports here in Austin.
[01:49:50.240 --> 01:49:52.240]  When we were trying to get that bill passed
[01:49:52.240 --> 01:49:55.240]  and the Fed started blackmailing all the states,
[01:49:55.240 --> 01:49:57.240]  especially us, about what they would do
[01:49:57.240 --> 01:49:59.240]  and declare some no-fly zone.
[01:49:59.240 --> 01:50:00.240]  Well, I got an idea.
[01:50:00.240 --> 01:50:03.240]  Why don't we just declare Washington, D.C.
[01:50:03.240 --> 01:50:05.240]  a no-exit, no-entry zone
[01:50:05.240 --> 01:50:08.240]  and forbid every airline in any state
[01:50:08.240 --> 01:50:13.240]  to charter or create a flight destined for D.C.?
[01:50:13.240 --> 01:50:15.240]  That's probably a good idea.
[01:50:15.240 --> 01:50:18.240]  Rather than let them blackmail us,
[01:50:18.240 --> 01:50:21.240]  let's turn the tables.
[01:50:21.240 --> 01:50:23.240]  Every state just tells every airline
[01:50:23.240 --> 01:50:25.240]  if you want to operate today,
[01:50:25.240 --> 01:50:29.240]  you will not allow any flights traveling to or from D.C.
[01:50:29.240 --> 01:50:31.240]  to come in or out of this airport.
[01:50:31.240 --> 01:50:33.240]  Okay, I got the third one.
[01:50:33.240 --> 01:50:36.240]  Hey, okay, well, you know, this is the problem.
[01:50:36.240 --> 01:50:40.240]  You've got a lot of people that don't think straight,
[01:50:40.240 --> 01:50:45.240]  that can't organize, that aren't thinking like we understand.
[01:50:45.240 --> 01:50:48.240]  Unfortunately, they're being misled.
[01:50:48.240 --> 01:50:50.240]  And that's the sad part.
[01:50:50.240 --> 01:50:51.240]  That's what I'm seeing.
[01:50:51.240 --> 01:50:54.240]  And it's just, I don't think it's going to...
[01:50:54.240 --> 01:50:58.240]  Unfortunately, I really don't see any good future coming.
[01:50:58.240 --> 01:51:00.240]  I wish on it.
[01:51:00.240 --> 01:51:04.240]  I really hope so, but, you know, it's just...
[01:51:04.240 --> 01:51:07.240]  There's no change. I don't see any change coming.
[01:51:07.240 --> 01:51:10.240]  I think people are getting more and more stupid.
[01:51:10.240 --> 01:51:11.240]  They're sitting in front of their TV.
[01:51:11.240 --> 01:51:13.240]  They live from check to check.
[01:51:13.240 --> 01:51:17.240]  All they're happy about is coming home, getting their paycheck,
[01:51:17.240 --> 01:51:21.240]  getting their TV or their sports on TV.
[01:51:21.240 --> 01:51:23.240]  You know, and as long as they're getting fed
[01:51:23.240 --> 01:51:25.240]  and their family's happy,
[01:51:25.240 --> 01:51:28.240]  they're not worried about losing their rights.
[01:51:28.240 --> 01:51:29.240]  And that's what's scary.
[01:51:29.240 --> 01:51:31.240]  And I think it's growing.
[01:51:31.240 --> 01:51:34.240]  Unfortunately, we're dying off.
[01:51:34.240 --> 01:51:37.240]  Again, you're looking at this from the wrong point of view.
[01:51:37.240 --> 01:51:39.240]  The point of view here is,
[01:51:39.240 --> 01:51:41.240]  they're not afraid of losing their rights
[01:51:41.240 --> 01:51:44.240]  because they are absolutely clueless about what they are
[01:51:44.240 --> 01:51:46.240]  and if they have any.
[01:51:46.240 --> 01:51:52.240]  It's very hard to miss something you've never seen or exercised.
[01:51:52.240 --> 01:51:55.240]  It's kind of like looking in the back of your closet
[01:51:55.240 --> 01:51:58.240]  20 years after you moved into the house
[01:51:58.240 --> 01:52:01.240]  and finding that pair of boots you looked for for six months
[01:52:01.240 --> 01:52:05.240]  but never found and finally gave up on.
[01:52:05.240 --> 01:52:10.240]  At some point, they're going to realize.
[01:52:10.240 --> 01:52:13.240]  Oh yeah, I looked everywhere but the closet.
[01:52:13.240 --> 01:52:15.240]  What a concept.
[01:52:15.240 --> 01:52:17.240]  Well, that's the problem here.
[01:52:17.240 --> 01:52:20.240]  Everybody's looking for their rights everywhere
[01:52:20.240 --> 01:52:25.240]  except for where they matter.
[01:52:25.240 --> 01:52:27.240]  They're looking for their rights everywhere
[01:52:27.240 --> 01:52:30.240]  for the place they're most likely to find them
[01:52:30.240 --> 01:52:37.240]  by being active and demanding our public servants honor them.
[01:52:37.240 --> 01:52:48.240]  They're not going to find them in the closet with the boots.
[01:52:48.240 --> 01:52:51.240]  What do you think about them, dear apples?
[01:52:51.240 --> 01:52:53.240]  Well, I just sure hope not.
[01:52:53.240 --> 01:52:55.240]  I think you guys are pussy-putting around the situation.
[01:52:55.240 --> 01:52:59.240]  I think we need to start exercising a second amendment.
[01:52:59.240 --> 01:53:02.240]  Well, you won't find me arguing in that debate.
[01:53:02.240 --> 01:53:04.240]  Not against you anyway.
[01:53:04.240 --> 01:53:07.240]  I would like to avoid it for as long as possible
[01:53:07.240 --> 01:53:11.240]  but I do believe that Kennedy had it absolutely correct.
[01:53:11.240 --> 01:53:14.240]  He who makes peaceful resolution impossible
[01:53:14.240 --> 01:53:17.240]  makes violent revolution inevitable.
[01:53:17.240 --> 01:53:20.240]  I'm worried about this next four years.
[01:53:20.240 --> 01:53:21.240]  I'm quite certain.
[01:53:21.240 --> 01:53:23.240]  I mean, I have a good feeling that of course
[01:53:23.240 --> 01:53:25.240]  Obama will get another four years.
[01:53:25.240 --> 01:53:29.240]  I don't hate the person as an individual.
[01:53:29.240 --> 01:53:33.240]  I was hoping for a good possibilities.
[01:53:33.240 --> 01:53:36.240]  I was hoping something good would come out of that
[01:53:36.240 --> 01:53:39.240]  but nothing good came out of Obama yet
[01:53:39.240 --> 01:53:42.240]  that I've seen it's always been.
[01:53:42.240 --> 01:53:44.240]  But he's not the only president either
[01:53:44.240 --> 01:53:48.240]  that we've had problems with.
[01:53:48.240 --> 01:53:51.240]  Once again, it's going on and I'm just afraid.
[01:53:51.240 --> 01:53:54.240]  I'm just kind of curious what the next four years,
[01:53:54.240 --> 01:53:57.240]  his final four years will bring
[01:53:57.240 --> 01:54:00.240]  and how many more rights we will lose
[01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:04.240]  and what else is what's around the corner, you know?
[01:54:04.240 --> 01:54:07.240]  What makes you think this is his final four years?
[01:54:07.240 --> 01:54:09.240]  Well, I'm not quite certain.
[01:54:09.240 --> 01:54:12.240]  I don't know everything
[01:54:12.240 --> 01:54:14.240]  but it could damn well...
[01:54:14.240 --> 01:54:17.240]  Okay, say it's a real narrow race, right?
[01:54:17.240 --> 01:54:20.240]  Well, you know, you're going to wind up with riots and crap.
[01:54:20.240 --> 01:54:22.240]  That's what I'm thinking.
[01:54:22.240 --> 01:54:24.240]  Who knows, you know?
[01:54:24.240 --> 01:54:28.240]  You are making the assumption
[01:54:28.240 --> 01:54:31.240]  that we continue to have elections
[01:54:31.240 --> 01:54:35.240]  and we continue to respect the 22nd Amendment
[01:54:35.240 --> 01:54:40.240]  which limits the president to two terms.
[01:54:40.240 --> 01:54:41.240]  That's scary.
[01:54:41.240 --> 01:54:45.240]  I'd hate to see a president
[01:54:45.240 --> 01:54:51.240]  by what do you call it, automatically get his four years
[01:54:51.240 --> 01:54:54.240]  because of a war, some things like that.
[01:54:54.240 --> 01:54:56.240]  But we're not even scarier.
[01:54:56.240 --> 01:54:59.240]  We're not honoring any other part of the Constitution.
[01:54:59.240 --> 01:55:02.240]  What makes you think that we're going to honor that part?
[01:55:02.240 --> 01:55:06.240]  Yeah, I know and that's the sad part, you know?
[01:55:06.240 --> 01:55:09.240]  So what's to come?
[01:55:09.240 --> 01:55:12.240]  We've got four more years, second four years.
[01:55:12.240 --> 01:55:16.240]  Who knows of whatever, you know, if it is a second year.
[01:55:16.240 --> 01:55:19.240]  You know, we may have some major catastrophe.
[01:55:19.240 --> 01:55:22.240]  Congress decides that the Constitution is no longer valid
[01:55:22.240 --> 01:55:24.240]  because it's not working
[01:55:24.240 --> 01:55:28.240]  and they just declare somebody, you know,
[01:55:28.240 --> 01:55:32.240]  absolute dictator and furor of the United States.
[01:55:32.240 --> 01:55:35.240]  It happened in Germany, it can happen here.
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:37.240]  Yeah, I can see that possibly happening.
[01:55:37.240 --> 01:55:40.240]  I mean, for what I've seen happen,
[01:55:40.240 --> 01:55:43.240]  now I haven't firsthand experienced it
[01:55:43.240 --> 01:55:45.240]  but I know this is building up
[01:55:45.240 --> 01:55:48.240]  and once you've experienced it personally
[01:55:48.240 --> 01:55:54.240]  by then it's hit, probably hit home for most people.
[01:55:54.240 --> 01:55:56.240]  Then they'll realize...
[01:55:56.240 --> 01:55:59.240]  It's also probably too late for your generation
[01:55:59.240 --> 01:56:03.240]  to do too much about it.
[01:56:03.240 --> 01:56:06.240]  Well, that's where most of the population is
[01:56:06.240 --> 01:56:08.240]  and that's where the future...
[01:56:08.240 --> 01:56:12.240]  And that's what's so crazy, you know?
[01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:19.240]  So, all I got to do is just deal with the cards I'm dealt with, I suppose.
[01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:21.240]  Make the best of what I can.
[01:56:21.240 --> 01:56:25.240]  I can make a vote this coming October
[01:56:25.240 --> 01:56:29.240]  and that's about all I can do and just keep playing them.
[01:56:29.240 --> 01:56:31.240]  Just keep going to die.
[01:56:31.240 --> 01:56:34.240]  I mean, just deal with the cards I'm dealt with.
[01:56:34.240 --> 01:56:37.240]  That's just how it goes.
[01:56:37.240 --> 01:56:38.240]  It's good.
[01:56:38.240 --> 01:56:43.240]  Hey, I like it if you guys are studying up on this Patriot Act.
[01:56:43.240 --> 01:56:46.240]  I'd like to read it myself if I had time to.
[01:56:46.240 --> 01:56:49.240]  I'm too busy being a worker
[01:56:49.240 --> 01:56:55.240]  to make sure that my situation's in good standing, you know?
[01:56:55.240 --> 01:56:58.240]  But it's good if you guys know more about this
[01:56:58.240 --> 01:57:00.240]  and then you keep the radio on
[01:57:00.240 --> 01:57:04.240]  and then maybe some more people can get educated
[01:57:04.240 --> 01:57:08.240]  if they have any questions about Patriot Act and how that works.
[01:57:08.240 --> 01:57:11.240]  Maybe you guys can give some decent answers.
[01:57:11.240 --> 01:57:14.240]  That's always good to know because I don't see it going away.
[01:57:14.240 --> 01:57:16.240]  It's not going to go away.
[01:57:16.240 --> 01:57:18.240]  You guys know it too, right?
[01:57:18.240 --> 01:57:22.240]  Well, you know, if you think that your job is that important
[01:57:22.240 --> 01:57:25.240]  that you don't have time to read the Patriot Act,
[01:57:25.240 --> 01:57:33.240]  then maybe you just better let the people in charge.
[01:57:33.240 --> 01:57:35.240]  You know, pass those kind of laws.
[01:57:35.240 --> 01:57:36.240]  Yeah.
[01:57:36.240 --> 01:57:38.240]  I ain't going to let them just take my time.
[01:57:38.240 --> 01:57:39.240]  I will make time.
[01:57:39.240 --> 01:57:43.240]  I've got to watch out for many other things too.
[01:57:43.240 --> 01:57:44.240]  I'm not.
[01:57:44.240 --> 01:57:51.240]  I am watching, you know, but I can't cover everything.
[01:57:51.240 --> 01:57:53.240]  But at some point, I will.
[01:57:53.240 --> 01:57:58.240]  How many pages is that thing?
[01:57:58.240 --> 01:58:04.240]  If it went past one saying all real Patriots shall remain armed
[01:58:04.240 --> 01:58:07.240]  and tell us to get out when we aren't doing the job correctly,
[01:58:07.240 --> 01:58:09.240]  then the bill was too long to begin with.
[01:58:09.240 --> 01:58:11.240]  Well, we got to get rid of it then.
[01:58:11.240 --> 01:58:13.240]  We got to burn the thing.
[01:58:13.240 --> 01:58:14.240]  All right.
[01:58:14.240 --> 01:58:15.240]  Thanks for calling in, Garrett.
[01:58:15.240 --> 01:58:19.240]  All right, folks, this has been Rule of Law Radio
[01:58:19.240 --> 01:58:22.240]  with our special guest tonight, Mr. Michael Bagnaric,
[01:58:22.240 --> 01:58:24.240]  who we would like to say thank you so much, Michael,
[01:58:24.240 --> 01:58:26.240]  for spending time with us tonight.
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