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[00:00.000 --> 00:08.000]  Eww, what's the most bacteria-filled object in a hotel room?
[00:08.000 --> 00:13.000]  Not to be a germaphobe, but a new study shows there's one thing you may not want to touch.
[00:13.000 --> 00:17.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and when I come back, I'll tell you what it is.
[00:17.000 --> 00:19.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:19.000 --> 00:23.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:23.000 --> 00:28.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:28.000 --> 00:33.000]  To protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[00:33.000 --> 00:35.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[00:46.000 --> 00:52.000]  When I stay at hotels, I'm generally suspicious of the carpet, and I always give the bedspread a wide berth.
[00:52.000 --> 00:57.000]  Okay, call me a germaphobe, but a new study vindicates at least some of my paranoia.
[00:57.000 --> 01:02.000]  In a survey of hotels in three states, the American Society for Microbiology found
[01:02.000 --> 01:08.000]  that 81% of hotel room surfaces contain fecal bacteria, yuck.
[01:08.000 --> 01:13.000]  The worst offenders? TV remotes, followed by toilets and bathroom sinks.
[01:13.000 --> 01:17.000]  Light switches and phones also tested high for bacteria.
[01:17.000 --> 01:20.000]  Before using them, a little hand sanitizer might be in order.
[01:20.000 --> 01:25.000]  So which surface is safest? The headboard, but good luck eating off of it.
[01:25.000 --> 01:32.000]  And Dr. Kaepfer and Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:32.000 --> 01:39.000]  Health-conscious consumers are ditching plastic food containers, worried about leaching chemicals.
[01:39.000 --> 01:42.000]  Are they being health-wise or just paranoid?
[01:42.000 --> 01:47.000]  And Dr. Kaepfer and Albrecht are all waiting to the controversy over plastics and health next.
[01:47.000 --> 01:53.000]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:53.000 --> 01:58.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:58.000 --> 02:03.000]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
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[02:17.000 --> 02:23.000]  The concern over plastic is rising, prompted by some studies that say compounds in water bottles
[02:23.000 --> 02:27.000]  and food packaging can cause cancer, infertility, and birth defects.
[02:27.000 --> 02:29.000]  But is ditching plastic a good idea?
[02:29.000 --> 02:34.000]  Most concerns focus on BPA, a compound used in plastic softeners.
[02:34.000 --> 02:40.000]  Some scientists say these compounds leach into food and drinks, but the plastic industry says otherwise,
[02:40.000 --> 02:43.000]  noting that experimental findings have not been repeated.
[02:43.000 --> 02:50.000]  Until scientists can agree on plastics, what should we do? Personally, I avoid plastic bottles and packaged meals.
[02:50.000 --> 02:53.000]  After all, fresh food can only do us good.
[02:53.000 --> 03:21.000]  Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[03:21.000 --> 03:27.000]  What are you going to do?
[03:27.000 --> 03:34.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:34.000 --> 03:40.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:40.000 --> 03:45.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn to go and then lose.
[03:45.000 --> 03:51.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get sick, then you make the crew.
[03:51.000 --> 03:56.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:56.000 --> 04:01.000]  Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[04:01.000 --> 04:04.000]  All right folks, good evening. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[04:04.000 --> 04:08.000]  This is our Friday night four-hour info marathon show.
[04:08.000 --> 04:12.000]  This is your host tonight, Eddie Craig. Randy Kelton will be joining us eventually.
[04:12.000 --> 04:17.000]  I hope he was supposed to be calling in, but until he does get here right now,
[04:17.000 --> 04:22.000]  we do have a special guest tonight. Mr. Michael Baden-Erik is on with us tonight.
[04:22.000 --> 04:24.000]  Michael, how are you?
[04:24.000 --> 04:28.000]  I am excellent. Thank you very much. I feel great.
[04:28.000 --> 04:34.000]  Good. You were talking before we came on about you have received some copies of your new book.
[04:34.000 --> 04:36.000]  You want to tell us about that?
[04:36.000 --> 04:47.000]  I am very excited. I first of all found a website that allows me to print my books
[04:47.000 --> 04:51.000]  without the inconvenience of having a publisher.
[04:51.000 --> 04:58.000]  And they point out very strictly that they are not a publisher. They will print whatever you approve.
[04:58.000 --> 05:08.000]  And so I was able to format my document into a five-and-a-half by eight-and-a-half format.
[05:08.000 --> 05:18.000]  And it looks fantastic. It's very simple, white cover just with the text of the title.
[05:18.000 --> 05:31.000]  And so it's a very clean-looking book. And I'm able to print as many or as few copies as I would like.
[05:31.000 --> 05:39.000]  And so for this particular time frame, I only printed 15 copies.
[05:39.000 --> 05:46.000]  I have 14 people that I have sent the book to this afternoon.
[05:46.000 --> 05:51.000]  People worked with G. Edward Griffin primarily.
[05:51.000 --> 05:56.000]  I am hoping that he will write the forward to the book.
[05:56.000 --> 06:02.000]  Sheriff Mack, Alex Jones, and a number of other people.
[06:02.000 --> 06:07.000]  And one, I've asked them to proofread the book.
[06:07.000 --> 06:12.000]  Obviously, you want to find all the typos if there are any more.
[06:12.000 --> 06:24.000]  And when we communicate with other people, we take for granted that other people know the things that we are thinking.
[06:24.000 --> 06:32.000]  And sometimes there's confusion because you're just going to take your own life history for granted.
[06:32.000 --> 06:42.000]  Well, one of the things that I've asked them to do is to flag any areas that do not make complete and total sense.
[06:42.000 --> 06:53.000]  It doesn't do me any good to write a book and then have a paragraph or a chapter completely indecipherable
[06:53.000 --> 06:58.000]  because I left out something that seemed obvious to me.
[06:58.000 --> 07:06.000]  And then I'm also asking these people to write a small advertising blur.
[07:06.000 --> 07:17.000]  Whenever you pick up a book, the back cover usually has one or two sentences from famous people that have read the book
[07:17.000 --> 07:22.000]  and are approving the book, basically encouraging you to buy the book and read it
[07:22.000 --> 07:26.000]  because all this is information you just can't read without.
[07:26.000 --> 07:31.000]  So this is a draft copy of the book.
[07:31.000 --> 07:40.000]  It looks perfect to me as it is, but again, I'm fairly biased and I know what I thought I said.
[07:40.000 --> 07:49.000]  So once I get these books back, then I will be able to make all my editorial changes
[07:49.000 --> 07:59.000]  and then request a much larger print of books that will soon be available for sale.
[07:59.000 --> 08:03.000]  Good. Looks like Randy may have joined us. Randy, are you there?
[08:03.000 --> 08:07.000]  Yeah, I'm here. Still on a train.
[08:07.000 --> 08:15.000]  Five minutes out of Austin. We've been here in almost an hour waiting for a freight train to pass.
[08:15.000 --> 08:20.000]  So this is a little background noise. Don't tell Deborah.
[08:20.000 --> 08:22.000]  Hello, Michael.
[08:22.000 --> 08:25.000]  Hey, Randy. How are you, my friend?
[08:25.000 --> 08:31.000]  I am doing good as long as I don't get lacerated by Deborah's sharp tongue.
[08:31.000 --> 08:39.000]  Yeah, well, she is kind of a pit bull, isn't she? But she's on her side.
[08:39.000 --> 08:45.000]  Yeah, I'm glad she's on our side. She really struggles to give a good production.
[08:45.000 --> 08:50.000]  So she's never pleased when I have to do it outside the studio.
[08:50.000 --> 08:53.000]  Yeah.
[08:53.000 --> 08:58.000]  That's what you get for being traveling in the middle of a show, Randy. That's a risky run.
[08:58.000 --> 09:03.000]  That's the risk I run.
[09:03.000 --> 09:04.000]  I'm here.
[09:04.000 --> 09:07.000]  Well, at least as much as usual, right?
[09:07.000 --> 09:10.000]  Yes, as much as usual.
[09:10.000 --> 09:15.000]  Well, Michael, do you want to tell us a little bit about what all your book is going to deal with?
[09:15.000 --> 09:28.000]  Well, as we were talking briefly yesterday, I get lots and lots of phone calls, people asking me for advice and counseling,
[09:28.000 --> 09:39.000]  well, they're looking for legal advice and they don't know it, but they are hoping that I have some sort of government form
[09:39.000 --> 09:53.000]  that they can fill out or possibly a letter or some kind of a court motion that they can send to whatever branch of government they're upset with
[09:53.000 --> 09:58.000]  and make the government go away.
[09:58.000 --> 10:06.000]  And unfortunately, those pieces of paper just don't exist.
[10:06.000 --> 10:12.000]  I have a paragraph quite literally that deals with that exactly.
[10:12.000 --> 10:17.000]  And it says, most of the questions people ask me boil down to this.
[10:17.000 --> 10:22.000]  How can I live my life the way I want without government interference?
[10:22.000 --> 10:28.000]  My response is, first, I have to sprinkle you with fairy dust and say the magic words.
[10:28.000 --> 10:34.000]  I'm kidding, of course, fairy dust doesn't exist and magic is simply trickery.
[10:34.000 --> 10:40.000]  Ironically, that's how the government made you a slave in the first place, trickery.
[10:40.000 --> 10:48.000]  However, if you are serious about living your life as a free person, and I mean serious as a heart attack,
[10:48.000 --> 10:55.000]  the kind of serious Patrick Henry was talking about when he said, give me liberty or give me death,
[10:55.000 --> 11:02.000]  then it is possible to start moving in the direction of really being free.
[11:02.000 --> 11:06.000]  So the book is the answer.
[11:06.000 --> 11:12.000]  It is not the answer that most people may be hoping for or expecting.
[11:12.000 --> 11:17.000]  But at the end of the book, you'll know where you stand and you'll know what is required
[11:17.000 --> 11:26.000]  and then you can decide whether you're going to, you know, live up to the task of really being sovereign.
[11:26.000 --> 11:28.000]  And again, I've taken it for granted.
[11:28.000 --> 11:40.000]  The title of my new book is Secret to Sovereignty or How to Survive the Second American Revolution.
[11:40.000 --> 11:48.000]  Michael, can you give us kind of a brief rundown of the different chapters?
[11:48.000 --> 11:50.000]  I can.
[11:50.000 --> 11:59.000]  And the first chapter is called What is Sovereignty?
[11:59.000 --> 12:03.000]  I mean, if we're going to aim for it, we have to know what it is.
[12:03.000 --> 12:09.000]  We have to be able to define it and, you know, we have to know what it is if we finally achieve it.
[12:09.000 --> 12:16.000]  And so I go through and give kind of my examples and demonstrations of what it is.
[12:16.000 --> 12:23.000]  And years and years ago, when I started teaching my Constitution class,
[12:23.000 --> 12:31.000]  I had a three-ring binder and about 68 pages of notes.
[12:31.000 --> 12:39.000]  And part of those notes was a document that I had found and downloaded off of the Internet.
[12:39.000 --> 12:51.000]  And I actually wrote an email to the author and got permission from him to include his document in my three-ring binder.
[12:51.000 --> 13:02.000]  I did not include that document in Good to Be King because I was really talking about the Constitution and not sovereignty.
[13:02.000 --> 13:08.000]  But as I started to write this book, I realized, wait a minute, this was a document.
[13:08.000 --> 13:10.000]  I read it, you know, from front to back.
[13:10.000 --> 13:12.000]  And it was perfect.
[13:12.000 --> 13:15.000]  It nailed it right on the head.
[13:15.000 --> 13:27.000]  So I went back to the Internet to attempt to locate the author to get permission for this new use of his document.
[13:27.000 --> 13:32.000]  And to the best of my research, the author no longer exists.
[13:32.000 --> 13:40.000]  The website where I found the document ceased to exist in 2004.
[13:40.000 --> 13:49.000]  And so if the author of that document shows up, you know, I will be happy to give him credit.
[13:49.000 --> 13:57.000]  But it is a discussion, quite literally, the title of his document is, What is a Sovereign Individual?
[13:57.000 --> 14:07.000]  And he goes through with dictionary definitions and essentially creates three stages of sovereignty.
[14:07.000 --> 14:12.000]  The first stage is mental sovereignty.
[14:12.000 --> 14:18.000]  I mean, you really have to kind of know in your head that you are sovereign.
[14:18.000 --> 14:23.000]  I mean, if you don't believe it, you're never going to get anybody else to believe it.
[14:23.000 --> 14:29.000]  The second stage would be financial sovereignty.
[14:29.000 --> 14:41.000]  All this wealth, all this property, and unfortunately the government is taking, you know, a large percentage of your stuff.
[14:41.000 --> 14:51.000]  And he explains different methods of avoiding, you know, government interference with your finances.
[14:51.000 --> 14:59.000]  And he admits that you may have to do some kind of low profile running around the world in order to keep most of your stuff.
[14:59.000 --> 15:05.000]  And the third phase would be physical sovereignty.
[15:05.000 --> 15:14.000]  And that's where not only do you know that you are sovereign, but everybody around you agrees and they treat you as sovereign.
[15:14.000 --> 15:20.000]  He said that's a long way off, but it will happen sooner or later.
[15:20.000 --> 15:27.000]  Chapter two is called assertive versus submissive.
[15:27.000 --> 15:31.000]  And it is the most important chapter in the book.
[15:31.000 --> 15:39.000]  I find it ironic that chapter two of my first book was also the most important.
[15:39.000 --> 15:48.000]  And assertive versus submissive talks about the mental attitude.
[15:48.000 --> 15:52.000]  I start out discussing tic-tac-toe.
[15:52.000 --> 15:55.000]  Adults do not play tic-tac-toe.
[15:55.000 --> 16:02.000]  We don't go to the bar and scratch out a couple of games of tic-tac-toe in the cocktail napkin as we're waiting for our beer to show up,
[16:02.000 --> 16:07.000]  because tic-tac-toe is a logic lesson.
[16:07.000 --> 16:10.000]  And adults already know that lesson.
[16:10.000 --> 16:21.000]  Children have not learned the difference between a bad move and a good move in tic-tac-toe, even though game is ultimately very simple.
[16:21.000 --> 16:34.000]  And so in tic-tac-toe, the only way that you can win the game is for your opponent to do something really simple and stupid and lose the game.
[16:34.000 --> 16:42.000]  If both people know how to play and both people maintain a medium amount of logic,
[16:42.000 --> 16:47.000]  every single game is going to come up with a draw.
[16:47.000 --> 16:51.000]  And I point out that we're about to go to break.
[16:51.000 --> 16:53.000]  Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
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[20:12.000 --> 20:16.000]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[20:16.000 --> 20:20.000]  Alright, let's continue on Mr. Baden-Erik.
[20:20.000 --> 20:29.000]  I was using the game of tic-tac-toe as kind of a metaphor for the way we live our lives.
[20:29.000 --> 20:38.000]  In tic-tac-toe, the only way that you can win the game is for somebody else to physically lose the game.
[20:38.000 --> 20:54.000]  And I was comparing that to dominant versus submissive. If the only way for someone else to win and be dominant over you
[20:54.000 --> 21:00.000]  is for you to be submissive and willingly lose the game.
[21:00.000 --> 21:09.000]  And really it's kind of just an attitude. And from there I go through a number of personal anecdotes.
[21:09.000 --> 21:23.000]  As many of my fans will know, I've had more than a fair share of encounters with police officers of various cities.
[21:23.000 --> 21:31.000]  And, you know, I am encouraging people to not shake in your boots.
[21:31.000 --> 21:38.000]  Don't automatically let the police officer win. There's no reason to be disrespectful.
[21:38.000 --> 21:47.000]  You can be polite, but keep in mind that police officers are supposed to be polite to you too.
[21:47.000 --> 21:52.000]  Works for me. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be in the manual they read.
[21:52.000 --> 21:54.000]  No.
[21:54.000 --> 21:58.000]  Brandon, are you still there?
[21:58.000 --> 22:05.000]  Yes, sometimes I think Eddie works at trying to get police officers to beat him into unconsciousness.
[22:05.000 --> 22:09.000]  Ah, well, I'll get him a step stool so I can get up there and try it.
[22:09.000 --> 22:26.000]  Yeah, but that chapter I thought was very well written because it does give us fair warning. If you want to go and get out here and fight for your rights and you want to take the plate off your car and say, I don't need those plates,
[22:26.000 --> 22:43.000]  well, you need to be ready to fight the fight and don't imagine that because you think you have a righteous position that the other side is just going to say, oh my goodness, you are white and just lay down a little over for you.
[22:43.000 --> 22:56.000]  I'm not going to work that way. And I was really pleased with that chapter of Michael's book because he made that point real well.
[22:56.000 --> 23:04.000]  Well, I like Michael's books. They're aimed in the same direction we all want to go.
[23:04.000 --> 23:18.000]  So we want things to be easier and I think the important part and then the point Michael makes about being a sovereign is sovereignty is not something you just decide that you want.
[23:18.000 --> 23:28.000]  So, sovereignty is not something you just assert. Sovereignty is acting like a sovereign.
[23:28.000 --> 23:41.000]  That's harder than it appears because it takes some dedication, it takes some risk because the bad guys are not always in a mood to grant you your sovereign.
[23:41.000 --> 23:53.000]  You have to take it and they will fight back. You have to expect that.
[23:53.000 --> 24:01.000]  So, did you guys want to bring your candidate on at this point?
[24:01.000 --> 24:09.000]  Yeah, Eddie, you want to... Well, actually, we wanted to kind of finish out this segment.
[24:09.000 --> 24:11.000]  Okay.
[24:11.000 --> 24:19.000]  Kind of give us a brief over the other chapters so we kind of know what we're getting into and what to expect from the book.
[24:19.000 --> 24:35.000]  Okay, so after we talk about assertive versus submissive, the next chapter is fear and I discuss personal experiences and how fear will affect our decision making.
[24:35.000 --> 24:50.000]  Then I talk about conformity, which is similar to fear. It's basically peer pressure doing things because you want to be part of the cool kid's table.
[24:50.000 --> 25:06.000]  And then I talk about bravery and actually standing up for yourself. There are certain situations where when you really don't have any other choice, you may as well give it all you get.
[25:06.000 --> 25:17.000]  Most of us know that even a mouse when backed into a corner will turn pretty ruthless and fight for its life.
[25:17.000 --> 25:24.000]  Then a really important chapter on ideology.
[25:24.000 --> 25:40.000]  I demonstrate that no human action ever takes place without mental thought process happening first.
[25:40.000 --> 25:51.000]  We can look at the Hoover Dam, we can look at the Golden Gate Bridge, and those are just human wonders.
[25:51.000 --> 26:06.000]  I've seen documentaries on how those structures were built and the technology they used to create them, but you could not have created them without a lot of engineering drawings.
[26:06.000 --> 26:13.000]  There was a lot of work mentally before those objects became reality.
[26:13.000 --> 26:25.000]  Then I point out that even a sand castle on the beach does not occur without somebody building a mental picture of it.
[26:25.000 --> 26:41.000]  You've got to think about what you want before you can scoop it out of the sand. Then I say that even freedom and slavery must happen first as a thought process.
[26:41.000 --> 27:03.000]  Somebody had to think up slavery and decide that that's what they wanted. In order to create a truly free country and to truly be sovereign, you have to understand the proper ideology.
[27:03.000 --> 27:07.000]  It's not going to happen just accidentally.
[27:07.000 --> 27:16.000]  Then I talk about intelligence and integrity, which are two personal traits that are required in order to be sovereign.
[27:16.000 --> 27:27.000]  Thomas Jefferson said that if you want to be ignorant and free, you want something that never was and never will be.
[27:27.000 --> 27:39.000]  You've got to have some mental acuity. That's where a lot of people just get tired.
[27:39.000 --> 27:44.000]  They really don't want it. They don't want to be smart. They don't want to study.
[27:44.000 --> 27:51.000]  You don't want to be smart. Then sit on the curb and wait for people to give you food.
[27:51.000 --> 28:01.000]  Integrity is really important. Then finally, I talk about stop being part of the problem.
[28:01.000 --> 28:15.000]  People will talk about the Constitution and then their actions are in direct opposition to the things they say they want.
[28:15.000 --> 28:25.000]  If you are looking at the thing that you want and you're getting further and further away, you're probably walking backwards.
[28:25.000 --> 28:30.000]  I give several really good examples there.
[28:30.000 --> 28:49.000]  Then in Chapter 10, I finally start talking about how to solve some of these problems. I take a while to describe the problem and describe some of the qualities that you need.
[28:49.000 --> 28:51.000]  Are we going to break?
[28:51.000 --> 28:55.000]  No, we're not going to break. I think Randy is getting lost again.
[28:55.000 --> 29:05.000]  The last couple of chapters, I've already painted a really strong picture.
[29:05.000 --> 29:15.000]  Don't go there unless you have the knowledge, the courage and the will to make it happen.
[29:15.000 --> 29:22.000]  As Randy said a few moments ago, the bad guys are not going to let you have it just because you hold up a piece of paper.
[29:22.000 --> 29:27.000]  Even if that piece of paper happens to be the Declaration of Independence.
[29:27.000 --> 29:36.000]  I go through the last couple of chapters and I tell people what I have done.
[29:36.000 --> 29:41.000]  That's about all I can do.
[29:41.000 --> 29:50.000]  If you want to copycat off of the things that I have already done, then it's up to you.
[29:50.000 --> 29:54.000]  But you need to take full total responsibility for it.
[29:54.000 --> 30:00.000]  Yep, all right folks, we're about to go to break. This rule is already on. We'll be right back.
[30:00.000 --> 30:05.000]  This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11.
[30:05.000 --> 30:07.000]  The government says that fire brought it down.
[30:07.000 --> 30:12.000]  However, 1500 architects and engineers have concluded it was a controlled demolition.
[30:12.000 --> 30:15.000]  Over 6,000 of my fellow service members have given their lives.
[30:15.000 --> 30:18.000]  And thousands of my fellow first responders are dying.
[30:18.000 --> 30:20.000]  I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
[30:20.000 --> 30:21.000]  I'm a structural engineer.
[30:21.000 --> 30:22.000]  I'm a New York City correctional.
[30:22.000 --> 30:23.000]  I'm an Air Force pilot.
[30:23.000 --> 30:25.000]  I'm the father who lost his son.
[30:25.000 --> 30:27.000]  We're Americans and we deserve the truth.
[30:27.000 --> 30:56.000]  Go to RememberBuilding7.org today.
[30:57.000 --> 31:07.000]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy.
[31:07.000 --> 31:10.000]  And neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[31:10.000 --> 31:13.000]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then.
[31:13.000 --> 31:14.000]  Brave New Books?
[31:14.000 --> 31:19.000]  Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones,
[31:19.000 --> 31:21.000]  Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[31:21.000 --> 31:25.000]  They even stock Interfood, Burkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
[31:25.000 --> 31:27.000]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[31:27.000 --> 31:29.000]  Go check it out for yourself.
[31:29.000 --> 31:33.000]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street just south of UT.
[31:33.000 --> 31:34.000]  Oh, by UT?
[31:34.000 --> 31:36.000]  There's never anywhere to park down there.
[31:36.000 --> 31:42.000]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility
[31:42.000 --> 31:44.000]  just behind the bookstore.
[31:44.000 --> 31:48.000]  It does exist, but when are they open?
[31:48.000 --> 31:52.000]  Monday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. and 1 to 6 p.m. on Sundays.
[31:52.000 --> 32:01.000]  So give them a call at 512-480-2503 or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com.
[32:01.000 --> 32:12.000]  You're listening to the Logos Radio Network at LogosRadioNetwork.com.
[32:12.000 --> 32:25.000]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm gonna solve them, to the government them, prosecute them.
[32:25.000 --> 32:28.000]  Okay.
[32:28.000 --> 32:31.000]  All set.
[32:31.000 --> 32:53.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[32:53.000 --> 32:55.000]  This is Rula's Law Radio.
[32:55.000 --> 32:59.000]  Okay, we also have a dropping guest for just a moment.
[32:59.000 --> 33:02.000]  He is a candidate.
[33:02.000 --> 33:05.000]  I'll let him give you the details as to what and to who.
[33:05.000 --> 33:10.000]  Mr. Rostig, could you please tell us who you are and what you're running for?
[33:10.000 --> 33:17.000]  Hi, my name is Grant Rostig and I'm running for State Senator District 21.
[33:17.000 --> 33:28.000]  State Senate District 21 runs all the way from Southern Travis County with 140,000 voters all the way down to Laredo, Texas with 250,000 voters there.
[33:28.000 --> 33:36.000]  And it sort of basically follows 35 on the east or south side of 35.
[33:36.000 --> 33:40.000]  And I am the Republican candidate on the ballot.
[33:40.000 --> 33:45.000]  There is a libertarian and then there is the incumbent, Judith Zafferini.
[33:45.000 --> 33:55.000]  She's been there for about 26 years and we're gonna see if we can at least get the message out as to liberty.
[33:55.000 --> 34:00.000]  Because I'm very much dedicated to these ideas and, you know, it's a heavily Democrat district,
[34:00.000 --> 34:04.000]  so we're gonna have to, I'm gonna have to inspire a lot of Democrats to vote for me,
[34:04.000 --> 34:13.000]  but at least get them thinking this way and then, you know, start to put down the foundation for liberty here and in Laredo.
[34:13.000 --> 34:15.000]  All right.
[34:15.000 --> 34:21.000]  Anything else you need to know or need us to know about when the, when's the election and so on and so forth?
[34:21.000 --> 34:25.000]  Well, the election is the same time as everybody else is November 6th.
[34:25.000 --> 34:33.000]  My main issues that I'm running on and have been is real liberty and true justice for all peoples.
[34:33.000 --> 34:43.000]  You know, I suspected things were kind of going wrong in this country back in the 80s after I read Nundare called it the conspiracy.
[34:43.000 --> 34:52.000]  But I must say that listening to your program and studying at the bookstore and looking over the jurisdiction area and so on
[34:52.000 --> 35:00.000]  has really opened my eyes and given me much more concrete ideas on to, you know, what we had at one time
[35:00.000 --> 35:05.000]  and much of what we've lost in the de facto law that we're experiencing now.
[35:05.000 --> 35:14.000]  And so I really appreciate the way that you guys think and the way you present these ideas that are, you know, seem right, seem so fundamentally right,
[35:14.000 --> 35:17.000]  but are so foreign to our current way of thinking.
[35:17.000 --> 35:19.000]  And it's fantastic.
[35:19.000 --> 35:28.000]  I'll be working to try to bring more of the sovereignty of the individual to the fore if I were to be elected.
[35:28.000 --> 35:29.000]  All right.
[35:29.000 --> 35:30.000]  Well, that's good to know.
[35:30.000 --> 35:34.000]  Yeah, I'm not afraid to call it not only a conspiracy, but just downright wrong crooked.
[35:34.000 --> 35:41.000]  Michael, you got any comments on any of this?
[35:41.000 --> 35:51.000]  Well, you know, there's this thing that I like to talk about is how King George, when we won the war against England,
[35:51.000 --> 35:58.000]  King George apparently handed sovereignty not to any particular government, but to each of us individually.
[35:58.000 --> 35:59.000]  This is something I've heard.
[35:59.000 --> 36:01.000]  I don't know exactly the detail behind it.
[36:01.000 --> 36:08.000]  And then we as individuals as sovereigns turned over a little bit of our sovereignty to a very limited government.
[36:08.000 --> 36:13.000]  And I just, you know, find that to be such a fascinating and wonderful idea.
[36:13.000 --> 36:20.000]  And, you know, and now, unfortunately, through various means, some of which may not be constitutional,
[36:20.000 --> 36:26.000]  some of which may not be according to common law, we basically are like farm animals.
[36:26.000 --> 36:32.000]  You know, the government treats us like farm animals, hurting us, zapping us, thinking they know better than us.
[36:32.000 --> 36:33.000]  But they don't.
[36:33.000 --> 36:34.000]  And I don't believe they do.
[36:34.000 --> 36:36.000]  And I don't think they're honest.
[36:36.000 --> 36:39.000]  So, you know, I think we need to take back our sovereignty as much as possible.
[36:39.000 --> 36:43.000]  And, you know, learning information is really important.
[36:43.000 --> 36:45.000]  And that's something that you guys are providing, including Michael.
[36:45.000 --> 36:47.000]  You know, he's doing a great job.
[36:47.000 --> 36:54.000]  And it just makes me feel great to see how Ron Paul has inspired the Liberty Movement for years now.
[36:54.000 --> 36:56.000]  And then even the Tea Party has come along.
[36:56.000 --> 36:58.000]  And, you know, it's a little different.
[36:58.000 --> 37:01.000]  But, you know, they're thinking about the same sorts of things.
[37:01.000 --> 37:03.000]  And they're reading their constitutions.
[37:03.000 --> 37:09.000]  So the fires of Liberty are not just smoldering, but they're starting to come alive.
[37:09.000 --> 37:16.000]  And it makes me feel very happy to be part of that, you know, as a humble servant of Liberty.
[37:16.000 --> 37:21.000]  And being my part is running as a candidate.
[37:21.000 --> 37:26.000]  All right, Randy, you got any comments or questions?
[37:26.000 --> 37:28.000]  Randy?
[37:28.000 --> 37:31.000]  Well, he was up here a moment.
[37:31.000 --> 37:34.000]  Yeah, I'm coming out here on the side of the highway for a second.
[37:34.000 --> 37:36.000]  I'll be in the car in a minute.
[37:36.000 --> 37:37.000]  Okay.
[37:37.000 --> 37:38.000]  All right.
[37:38.000 --> 37:39.000]  How about you, Michael?
[37:39.000 --> 37:42.000]  Have you gotten back with us yet?
[37:42.000 --> 37:54.000]  Well, I find it fascinating that Grant is talking about the very topics that are in my book.
[37:54.000 --> 38:04.000]  And Grant, I don't think, I don't know that I can get you a copy of my book before the election.
[38:04.000 --> 38:08.000]  It may not do you any good for this election.
[38:08.000 --> 38:15.000]  But if you go to my website, constitutionpreservation.org, and sign up for the newsletter,
[38:15.000 --> 38:21.000]  you'll be one of the first to know when my book becomes available.
[38:21.000 --> 38:24.000]  Yes, Michael, I very much admire the work you've done in the past.
[38:24.000 --> 38:27.000]  I'm sure this will be an excellent work.
[38:27.000 --> 38:33.000]  You know, this opponent of mine has millions of dollars.
[38:33.000 --> 38:41.000]  And, you know, she brags about how Dewhurst has appointed her to various committees and so on in the Senate.
[38:41.000 --> 38:44.000]  She was heading up education.
[38:44.000 --> 38:48.000]  And so she's definitely, you know, a very well-connected person.
[38:48.000 --> 38:54.000]  And my campaign funds are, you know, quite limited, to say the least,
[38:54.000 --> 38:57.000]  and very limited help in running this.
[38:57.000 --> 38:59.000]  But I think that's important that people run.
[38:59.000 --> 39:03.000]  And I urge all of your listeners to think about running.
[39:03.000 --> 39:09.000]  You know, you do have to read some rules, and you do have to fill out a bunch of terrible forms.
[39:09.000 --> 39:13.000]  But, you know, no one's running against Kirk Watson, for instance.
[39:13.000 --> 39:23.000]  And, you know, if you run for office, some of the radio stations and some of the TV stations will give the Republican
[39:23.000 --> 39:31.000]  two minutes, several minutes of airtime, for instance, case that 12 in San Antonio has been very good this year.
[39:31.000 --> 39:39.000]  I have two minutes, two minutes prime time to put out the message of freedom and liberty and constitutional government.
[39:39.000 --> 39:44.000]  So, you know, it is a, it can be a very, very difficult thing to run for office,
[39:44.000 --> 39:49.000]  but you can have various gradations of participation.
[39:49.000 --> 39:55.000]  So, you know, this is something that, if you can take the heat, if you can take a lot of, you know, criticism and so on,
[39:55.000 --> 39:59.000]  then it's a great thing to do, I believe.
[39:59.000 --> 40:01.000]  And this is my third run.
[40:01.000 --> 40:05.000]  You know, I ran against Lloyd Docket in 2006, and that's before the Ron Ball Revolution.
[40:05.000 --> 40:08.000]  It was a very lonely time.
[40:08.000 --> 40:14.000]  And then again in 2010, I ran for county commissioner, and unfortunately I lost that too.
[40:14.000 --> 40:21.000]  In 2008, I went to the convention in Minneapolis, Ron Paul's Liberty Convention,
[40:21.000 --> 40:26.000]  and also the St. Paul GOP convention.
[40:26.000 --> 40:34.000]  You know, I was there when Palin and McCain were giving their acceptance speeches,
[40:34.000 --> 40:41.000]  and, you know, it's an exciting thing, but we're winning.
[40:41.000 --> 40:47.000]  So, when you look at the youth that are getting involved, you go to a Republican event,
[40:47.000 --> 40:51.000]  you see someone young, you say, okay, probably a Ron Paul person.
[40:51.000 --> 40:53.000]  If not, you know, they're paid to be there.
[40:53.000 --> 40:56.000]  They're working for some campaign that has piles of money.
[40:56.000 --> 40:59.000]  So, we are making a huge difference.
[40:59.000 --> 41:02.000]  Texas is coming our way.
[41:02.000 --> 41:07.000]  Even the top management of the Texas Republican Party is becoming more flexible
[41:07.000 --> 41:13.000]  and more willing to deal with an open, more broad set of viewpoints.
[41:13.000 --> 41:21.000]  So, you know, things are moving forward, and I urge people to consider getting involved
[41:21.000 --> 41:27.000]  with the Republican Party and help us that have been in the trenches for a number of years.
[41:27.000 --> 41:32.000]  There's other great people here in Austin that have been working longer than I have,
[41:32.000 --> 41:36.000]  and they're still there, and we've got a good team.
[41:36.000 --> 41:41.000]  So, you know, there's other parties, of course, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party,
[41:41.000 --> 41:49.000]  but I chose the Republican Party because if Ron Paul can be a Republican, so can I.
[41:49.000 --> 41:51.000]  All right, good to know.
[41:51.000 --> 41:53.000]  Anything else you got out there, Randy?
[41:53.000 --> 41:54.000]  Did you make it to the call?
[41:54.000 --> 41:57.000]  Yeah, I'm back.
[41:57.000 --> 42:02.000]  It seems that the train I was on was waiting for a freight train,
[42:02.000 --> 42:08.000]  and the freight train had a problem with the rails, so that thing's probably going to be there all night.
[42:08.000 --> 42:12.000]  So, I bailed off the train in the middle of the highway,
[42:12.000 --> 42:17.000]  and somebody come pick me up off the side of the highway.
[42:17.000 --> 42:20.000]  So, I'm in the car now. I hope it's not too loud.
[42:20.000 --> 42:28.000]  And I apologize for this little mix-up, but that's what happens when you take trains.
[42:28.000 --> 42:30.000]  Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.
[42:30.000 --> 42:38.000]  But I'm glad to hear that we have people out there who are dedicated,
[42:38.000 --> 42:42.000]  and I'm glad to hear that you've ran more than one time.
[42:42.000 --> 42:46.000]  A lot of people get out there and decide they're going to change things,
[42:46.000 --> 42:48.000]  they jump out there and run for office,
[42:48.000 --> 42:53.000]  and turns out it's not as easy as they thought it was,
[42:53.000 --> 42:56.000]  and then they just walk away.
[42:56.000 --> 43:03.000]  They don't realize that, you know, Ron Paul ran, I think, realizing he couldn't make it the first time,
[43:03.000 --> 43:06.000]  but he got his name out there. He did a lot better this time,
[43:06.000 --> 43:14.000]  and I think everybody knows that they hadn't sold the vote that he would have had at this time.
[43:14.000 --> 43:18.000]  But they're not so good at stealing the vote in a smaller election.
[43:18.000 --> 43:24.000]  We may actually have a chance of getting a real human being in office instead of a politician.
[43:24.000 --> 43:27.000]  That would be a nicer question to ask.
[43:27.000 --> 43:31.000]  Well, you know, Ron, do you bring up an interesting point?
[43:31.000 --> 43:34.000]  When I ran in 2006, I looked at the people.
[43:34.000 --> 43:37.000]  Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you. We're about to take a break.
[43:37.000 --> 43:38.000]  Okay.
[43:38.000 --> 43:41.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
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[43:50.000 --> 43:53.000]  I don't know how long we got Michael with us, but when he's ready to take calls,
[43:53.000 --> 43:55.000]  we need somebody out here waiting.
[43:55.000 --> 44:24.000]  We'll be right back on the other side of the break, folks.
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[47:19.000 --> 47:25.000]  All right, folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio.
[47:25.000 --> 47:28.000]  This is our Friday night for our info marathon.
[47:28.000 --> 47:30.000]  We are live, not Memorex.
[47:30.000 --> 47:32.000]  Our guest, Michael Badden-Erik, is with us.
[47:32.000 --> 47:36.000]  And we are going to start taking our callers.
[47:36.000 --> 47:40.000]  And right now, first one up appears to be Dan in Connecticket.
[47:40.000 --> 47:42.000]  Mr. Connecticket, what's up?
[47:42.000 --> 47:49.000]  Oh, nothing much. We're just raising a whole bunch of hell in the spirit of liberty per usual.
[47:49.000 --> 47:55.000]  I heard your caller that called in running for a state senate, I believe it was,
[47:55.000 --> 47:59.000]  and he ran three times. We actually have that in common.
[47:59.000 --> 48:01.000]  This is my third run for Congress.
[48:01.000 --> 48:05.000]  And this is what I can tell anybody who's thinking about running out there.
[48:05.000 --> 48:13.000]  It took three attempts at this for myself and those helping me to really figure out how to run a campaign
[48:13.000 --> 48:18.000]  and do all that happy horse stuff and all that.
[48:18.000 --> 48:24.000]  But the ballot drive, the third time around for this effort,
[48:24.000 --> 48:31.000]  we got the state libertarian party to raise $55,000 on its own without any help from the national party,
[48:31.000 --> 48:35.000]  which is a quite an achievement in and of itself.
[48:35.000 --> 48:41.000]  For my part, we actually have a functional campaign headquarters and two full-time staff not counting me,
[48:41.000 --> 48:47.000]  which is pretty significant because the Republican doesn't even have that.
[48:47.000 --> 48:50.000]  So what I can say to anybody who wants to run for office,
[48:50.000 --> 48:55.000]  you've got to do something multiple times to really learn how to do it because honestly,
[48:55.000 --> 49:00.000]  if you just set out and you do it once, don't assume that you're going to get everything right.
[49:00.000 --> 49:03.000]  As a matter of fact, you're going to get quite a bit wrong.
[49:03.000 --> 49:09.000]  But the only way to really learn how to do it and set yourself up for wins in the future
[49:09.000 --> 49:18.000]  and really start organizing is to just get out there and put yourself in the pit and go for it.
[49:18.000 --> 49:20.000]  All right.
[49:20.000 --> 49:29.000]  Well, Dan, I would really like to see you get in because Dan is exactly the kind of person we need in
[49:29.000 --> 49:37.000]  as a legislator because he has absolutely been getting everybody's attention.
[49:37.000 --> 49:48.000]  And with the way things are changing, I'm not really surprised that the Libertarian Party was able to raise $55,000.
[49:48.000 --> 49:57.000]  This sleeping giant we call we the people, he is woke up and he is not a happy camper.
[49:57.000 --> 50:02.000]  Oh, and I do even know it specifically for you on that, Randy.
[50:02.000 --> 50:16.000]  We, believe it or not, at an editorial meeting with the local paper, we got to talk for mortgage fraud for a solid 10 minutes.
[50:16.000 --> 50:20.000]  I'm not sure he got that.
[50:20.000 --> 50:31.000]  Yeah, and I brought in the assignments I found on the land records where Linda Green is the vice president of four different banks and her signature changes twice.
[50:31.000 --> 50:35.000]  Yeah, well, you expect to tell something different, maybe.
[50:35.000 --> 50:44.000]  Michael, how would you solve some of this mortgage fraud stuff if you were president?
[50:44.000 --> 51:01.000]  Well, I don't remember whose quote it is, but one of the founders said that, you know, the biggest problem is that people don't understand how their money is made.
[51:01.000 --> 51:11.000]  And if I were the president, you know, being an instructor and a trainer, I would spend a whole lot of time, you know, going,
[51:11.000 --> 51:16.000]  hey, everybody take a break here, we're going to have to learn, you know, how money is made.
[51:16.000 --> 51:23.000]  Everybody knows what counterfeiting is, you know, basically it's printing money out of thin air.
[51:23.000 --> 51:30.000]  And the Federal Reserve has been doing that for very close to 99 years now.
[51:30.000 --> 51:41.000]  And I don't understand how, you know, it's bad for you or I to counterfeit $10,000, we go to jail.
[51:41.000 --> 51:56.000]  And it's okay for the Federal Reserve to counterfeit several quadrillions of dollars and, you know, pump all that stuff into the economy.
[51:56.000 --> 52:06.000]  Once the people understand that particular process, you're not going to have to start the Second American Revolution.
[52:06.000 --> 52:25.000]  Your best job is going to be to jump the heck out of the way as people start, you know, traveling in the direction of Washington, D.C. with their, you know, pitchforks and machetes.
[52:25.000 --> 52:29.000]  Which is entirely possible, all things considered.
[52:29.000 --> 52:35.000]  The way you're trying, you've heard about the last bailout.
[52:35.000 --> 52:41.000]  Well, I've been thinking about what you mean about it.
[52:41.000 --> 52:55.000]  They have made these banksters incredibly wealthy and the taxpayer will be putting the bill for everything.
[52:55.000 --> 53:07.000]  Everything, they've raped our retirement funds, they've stolen the equity out of our properties and made us what Jefferson referred to.
[53:07.000 --> 53:21.000]  What would happen if we put in a national bank, they've made us tenants on the land our forefathers bought to free and now they're going to tax us to death to pay for all of this.
[53:21.000 --> 53:25.000]  And the guys who stole it get to keep it all.
[53:25.000 --> 53:30.000]  You heard about Huey forever that was recently announced, right?
[53:30.000 --> 53:32.000]  I couldn't understand you.
[53:32.000 --> 53:38.000]  I heard the phrase, but I didn't believe it for a minute.
[53:38.000 --> 53:47.000]  I've also heard of a constitution-free zone, you know, within 100 miles of our national border.
[53:47.000 --> 53:50.000]  And I don't believe that either.
[53:50.000 --> 54:00.000]  Yeah, I was just, and I know Ron Paul came out about this, but he announced that it was pretty much a national emergency and I think it is.
[54:00.000 --> 54:12.000]  But Ben Bernanke recently announced that they were going to buy $50 billion per month of mortgage-backed securities at least until 2015.
[54:12.000 --> 54:14.000]  Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about.
[54:14.000 --> 54:22.000]  That's the third bailout and the taxpayer is going to fit the bill for it.
[54:22.000 --> 54:30.000]  All of their solutions are raping us and making them richer.
[54:30.000 --> 54:41.000]  I just went to Chicago to listen to Peter Schiff give a presentation.
[54:41.000 --> 54:49.000]  He also has a new book that came out and it's going to be a little bit of a shock
[54:49.000 --> 55:05.000]  because Peter Schiff's outlook on what is going to happen economically in the near future makes my outlook look cheerfully optimistic.
[55:05.000 --> 55:06.000]  Yikes.
[55:06.000 --> 55:09.000]  Well, it's going to happen.
[55:09.000 --> 55:16.000]  When you write bad checks for 100 years, sooner or later they come back.
[55:16.000 --> 55:21.000]  What we're doing is happening now, most of us are just going along like things are okay.
[55:21.000 --> 55:29.000]  I just went to a restaurant today and it cost $20 a head to eat lunch.
[55:29.000 --> 55:37.000]  I remember when it was average three and then it went to five and seven and ten.
[55:37.000 --> 55:39.000]  Are we not noticing this?
[55:39.000 --> 55:43.000]  How much are we paying for gas?
[55:43.000 --> 55:45.000]  What do you call inflation?
[55:45.000 --> 55:50.000]  I don't hear anybody talking about inflation, but I do hear them talk about $4 gallons of gas.
[55:50.000 --> 55:55.000]  I was going to say you eating beans, but...
[55:55.000 --> 56:02.000]  We are in really serious inflation as we speak.
[56:02.000 --> 56:11.000]  It's not here just because the news agencies are not talking about it and pretending like it's not happening.
[56:11.000 --> 56:18.000]  Those things that these guys have predicted will happen are happening.
[56:18.000 --> 56:25.000]  If somebody expected the sky to fall in tomorrow and somebody draw this line and say,
[56:25.000 --> 56:30.000]  yesterday was okay, today is calamity.
[56:30.000 --> 56:31.000]  It didn't work that way.
[56:31.000 --> 56:32.000]  It didn't turn on.
[56:32.000 --> 56:35.000]  It's not going to work that way this time.
[56:35.000 --> 56:41.000]  We're in the process of a cumulative crash.
[56:41.000 --> 56:46.000]  It's like we're slamming into a brick wall in slow motion.
[56:46.000 --> 56:49.000]  Everybody's looking around like they're not seeing it.
[56:49.000 --> 56:52.000]  Well, the politicians are.
[56:52.000 --> 57:00.000]  But that sleeping giant, we call the people, they're paying attention because they're really, really upset.
[57:00.000 --> 57:05.000]  They're looking at this being the election.
[57:05.000 --> 57:12.000]  This is the election to be in because the public is really, really upset.
[57:12.000 --> 57:16.000]  That's why I'm not surprised the libertarians were able to raise this much money,
[57:16.000 --> 57:27.000]  because even though the far right and the far left are beginning to realize that the politicians on both sides
[57:27.000 --> 57:32.000]  still have their snouts in the same trough.
[57:32.000 --> 57:36.000]  There's no real difference between either side.
[57:36.000 --> 57:44.000]  They all do this huffing and puffing and rattling the gums when it comes time for election.
[57:44.000 --> 57:49.000]  When they get in the office, they all do exactly the same thing and we're beginning to realize that.
[57:49.000 --> 57:56.000]  So when we don't know who to vote for, we certainly know who to vote against.
[57:56.000 --> 57:59.000]  Take a shot, Eddie.
[57:59.000 --> 58:03.000]  All right, folks, this is our top of the hour break.
[58:03.000 --> 58:10.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio, our Friday night info marathon show with our special guest, Michael Badden-Erik.
[58:10.000 --> 58:15.000]  All of you call in 512-646-1984.
[58:15.000 --> 58:21.000]  We do see you there on the board, Sandra, so hang on and after we get done with Dan, we'll take your call.
[58:21.000 --> 58:22.000]  Let's get in line, folks.
[58:22.000 --> 58:25.000]  We need to be talking and getting educated.
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[01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:07.000]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:17.000]  I read his book, and it says he cares for nobody else but you.
[01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:27.000]  These warm-hearted come by the term Riley.
[01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:32.000]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.000]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.000]  They're friends wicked and their logic shoddy.
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[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.000]  Hi, folks. We are back. This is Rural Law Radio.
[01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:57.000]  Alright, we still got callers up on the board. Let's get Dan wrapped up, and then we can go on to Sandra and Mike.
[01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:02.000]  Again, post calling number 512-646-1984.
[01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  Let's get some callers, get in line, and get Michael busy for the evening.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Alright, Dan, go ahead.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.000]  Well, I'll just finish with this.
[01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.000]  If anybody wants to give Dan Reel for Congress or the Libertarian Party of Connecticut a call,
[01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  the number is 860-546-6366.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:27.000]  The second number, we have two phone lines, is actually 860-546-6371.
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:34.000]  And I can just say that, yeah, when you run multiple times, you really start pulling it together.
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.000]  We're in two out of three of the debates.
[01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  The third one is actually going to crack for us and give way.
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:51.000]  And usually the number of debates any Libertarian in Connecticut is in is zero, so it's definitely a dramatic improvement.
[01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  Congratulations on that.
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  Yeah, it only took going to the State Supreme Court last time and suing the Secretary of State Pro, say to pull it off.
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.000]  You got to make them hurt.
[01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:10.000]  Yeah, they shrieked on it. That's for sure.
[01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  Well, if anybody can make them hurt, Dan can make them hurt.
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  He has been fun to follow all of this time, and I would really look forward to him getting in.
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  We have a lot of fun with Dan as an elected official.
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  The way we pick on elected officials, then we could do a Dan roast.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  Once a week just for yucks.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:50.000]  Yeah, and then once a week in the spirit of Randy Kellan and Michael Badner who've created a monster, I will propose an earmark to earmark all the earmarks back into the Treasury.
[01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.000]  Wow.
[01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  So on that note, I'll let you get on with the show and keep up the good work and create more monsters to come down here and help me out.
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:09.000]  All right, Dan, thanks for calling in. Appreciate it.
[01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  All right, now we're going to go to Sandra in Texas. Sandra, what can we do for you?
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  Well, I'm going to take a look at how money and major corporations have and special interests have a greater influence over members of the legislature.
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  I have a neighbor who loaned his car to a lady to go get him some cigarettes, and she never came back.
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  So when he tried to report it stolen, they said, oh, no, you loaned it to the person.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  And so therefore, you know, you can't do that. But then I have another friend who rented a car, asked for authorization of an extension, put an overdraft protection on her account, and placed a major financially backed credit card.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  And when they decided that they didn't want to extend it any longer, they filed theft charges and the lady got indicted.
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:21.000]  So how can you be convicted? The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person intended to steal the car.
[01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:34.000]  And why this other person who loaned the car after a week or so when the person hadn't brought it back, there's the same presumption that the person, you know, took the car without effective consent.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  So how do special interests and private rental cars get to use the police?
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:54.000]  Well, you're kind of drawing the distinction on the wrong side there. You're talking the difference between a private agreement to lend someone a car versus a business agreement to lend someone a car.
[01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.000]  Okay.
[01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  Well, actually what you're going to is the rental car, you have a written contract where the car was given to you under very specific conditions.
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  Uh-huh.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:23.000]  And you fail to abide by those conditions, then you've stolen the car. If you just let somebody loan your car, loan somebody your car, then you don't have a written contract.
[01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  You have an assertion of a verbal contract.
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:33.000]  So you don't have a contract you can go to the police with and say, I had this contract.
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  It was made in agreement and they agreed to do this and they didn't do this and it ran off with the car. Now the police has something to work with.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:59.000]  But if what they're looking at with when you loan somebody one, he said, she said, you know, that's something, you know, we've come across that before and if you loan somebody, if you loan somebody, if you put something into somebody else, it's a possession.
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  And you allow them to take possession of it and then they don't act with that property the way you expected them to. You can't accuse them of theft because you put it in their possession.
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:29.000]  The theft is where they come and steal it against your wishes. Now if you have a contract that says you use it for this loan and bring it back and put it here, after that time is up, then they've taken it without your permission.
[01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.000]  Does that make sense?
[01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:45.000]  Well, not that it does, but it also says the presumption is that if you don't bring it back, there's a constant in the person somebody could have stolen from them. They could have had a wreck.
[01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  They could have been in the hospital. They could have been not to do it or if they made contact and because the contract also rises you to call in and get an extension too.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:01.000]  Yeah, well, yeah, that's the whole thing about the contract.
[01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  Yeah, but at the same time, both parties have to agree to that extension. If the car rental company had not agreed to the extension and she still didn't bring it in, then they have the right to claim that, hey, we didn't authorize the extended use.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  Okay, but it says the presumption that the person had the intent to keep the car to avoid payment. And so if the person contacted the rental companies that look up in some circumstances, I don't have access to the car, I can't get it back right now.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  I'm sick and whatever. And they're saying here, here's my, I'm going to put overdraft protection, go ahead and take out the money as a deposit and that person doesn't, how do you prove that that person had the intent to avoid payment?
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  Well, if for instance, avoid payment. Well, specifically they would have to show that but if for instance she did that and the charge by the car company didn't clear, then the bank record would show that intent from that perception.
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  Well, but the thing is, is that they don't loan you a car unless it's backed by a major financial credit card.
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:27.000]  I understand that, but there could still be a limit on how much you can use on that card at any given time or so on and so forth.
[01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:31.000]  No, no, no, no, no. The credit card company pays it, the insurance.
[01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  Okay, but what I'm getting at is if there's an overdraft protection that she's having to invoke, that means she's over the limit on the card or on the account the car is attached to. That's what overdraft means.
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  Yes. Let's see, but the risk of car company doesn't know you have overdraft protection enough?
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:12:00.000]  Well, no, they may not, but they would know if it didn't clear because the holder of the card did not agree to the overdraft extension.
[01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  No, but I'm saying that in this case the...
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  Okay, wait a minute. Hold on. Let's back up. We're kind of getting lost in some details here and I'm not sure precisely what the situation is.
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:23.000]  Maybe I missed something. Did this person loan a rental car to someone?
[01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  No, this person...
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.000]  These are two different issues then.
[01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  Yes, two different issues. This is the car to her friend and when we stop theft, it says that after a certain period of time and the person that you loaned the car to doesn't bring the car back, then they no longer have your effective consent and therefore it would become theft.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:55.000]  But...
[01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.000]  Yes, that's reasonable.
[01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  Then it would become theft, but the police department in this city still would not allow that person to file theft in this other case.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  Okay.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.000]  Okay, hold on. Hold on.
[01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:19.000]  The police has to prove intent that the intent was to avoid payment and what happened here is...
[01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  Wait a minute. You're not making sense here. Hold on.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:23.000]  Okay.
[01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:29.000]  This is one of your mixing issues. The person lets someone use the car.
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.000]  Yes, and they never brought it back a whole year.
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:39.000]  Look, there's no intent to avoid payment because there's no contract for payment.
[01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:47.000]  No, no, no, no, no. The intent is to... No, that's okay. One of them is step of services and the other is theft.
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:58.000]  Okay, let's be clear on what we're talking about here. The rental car, then you can go to avoid payment.
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:12.000]  And the police, they want to say that if you loan somebody the car and they don't bring it back, it's purely civil and that's not true.
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:17.000]  No, not civil. You know, you don't... The person never...
[01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:26.000]  No, it's not true. If you agree to let somebody use your car for a given period of time, but you do some specific thing and...
[01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.000]  They never bring it back.
[01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  They never bring it back. That's not what you agreed to and you can still go after them for theft.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:41.000]  What we're really talking about here is what they want to do and what they don't want to do.
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:49.000]  And the reason why they don't want to do it in this particular city is because they're trying to keep the crime rate down.
[01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  You know, they're playing with the numbers and stuff like that.
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.000]  Okay. So...
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:03.000]  Okay, we don't... For our part, we don't care why they don't want to do their job. Not interested.
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:10.000]  You want to keep your crime rate down by calling things not crimes. We don't care about that.
[01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:17.000]  You don't want to do your job. Now, the police, anytime you bring them a complaint, that's more work they have to do.
[01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.000]  Right. Pay for work and...
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:26.000]  They don't really want to work if they can avoid it. I mean, we can expect that's normal.
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  But we don't care what they want.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  We want them to do their job. We don't care if they want to do it or not. So that's what we'll talk about.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  You know, we can talk about whether these distinctions...
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:47.000]  Let's go back to this. Get the distinctions out of the way.
[01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  Okay.
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  You loan somebody your car and they don't bring it back. It eventually becomes theft.
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.000]  And I can understand the police not wanting to go after them right away.
[01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  But over time, this is going to become theft and they can't get around.
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  If you rent a car, you rent a car based on a written rental agreement, and that's a whole different issue,
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:19.000]  that becomes theft at the determination of the agreement.
[01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  Now, if you have a contract with the rental company, I can assure you that there is a stipulation in there
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  that if the rental car company chooses to agree to abate an action they have a right to take,
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  that they do not waive the right to take that action.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  Okay, this is...
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  I mean, I do not wish to write. What does that mean?
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Let me explain that when we come back on the other side. My page is not up yet. Let me bring this out.
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[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:08.000]  Call in number 512-646-1984, and we are talking to Sandra in Texas.
[01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.000]  Sandra, if you'll hang on just a minute. Randy's got some stuff he needs to set up,
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:14.000]  and then we're going to put you back on the air, so just hang on for a moment.
[01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.000]  Randy, go ahead.
[01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  Okay, we're kind of just having an argument here, just kind of talking around issues.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:34.000]  We really need to sort out what the issue is, what the real question is, and let's go to that.
[01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  Sandra, what is the issue that you want to address?
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  Hang on just a second. Let me get her back up here. All right, Sandra, go ahead.
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  Okay, when the car lot sell you a car, and that's supposed to be your car, and you don't make the payment,
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  then the legislators have said, okay, that's on you to do the skip tracing.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.000]  That's on you to do the repo.
[01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:17.000]  For a rental car company who have a credit card backed institution where even if you don't have the money,
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  they can force the credit card company's insurance to pay it, and then the renter is liable to the bank.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  Okay.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  And you're saying that because of that, they can't come back after the person.
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  Right, because when they return the car, the credit card insurance is going to pay it.
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  They're not going to loan you a car.
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  Okay, here's how that will work. In Texas, they allow subordination.
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:55.000]  So now what?
[01:21:55.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  Subordination, S-U-B-O-R-G-A-T-I-O-N, and what that means is that if I contract with an insurance company to indemnify me,
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:24.000]  and you do something that causes me harm, and the insurance company has to pay off,
[01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  then the insurance company is harmed by your actions.
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.000]  That's right.
[01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  And they can come after you for the harm that was caused to them because of your actions.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:43.000]  That's called subordination when the insurance company can come back to recover their claim.
[01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  But the person that purchases a car from a used car lot, they have to go out and use their own private repose and skip tracers
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  if you don't make a payment on that car.
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:16.000]  But people car companies, to me, have lobbied the legislatures to give them the power to use the police to go out and put a stolen car out
[01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.000]  so that they can quickly get you your car back.
[01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:34.000]  But when you sign the agreement, you say, regardless of the car stolen from you, if a tornado hits it, you are still liable for the loss of the use of a car,
[01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.000]  the damages to the car, the price of the car.
[01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  You're still liable.
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:43.000]  You sign that when you enter into a contract with them.
[01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:58.000]  So why cannot that be done civil as opposed to using the police department to go out and repo the car, do the skip tracing, repo the car,
[01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  and then the state then prosecutes that person for...
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  Wait a minute. I think you just changed issues. You said why then can't who use the police to go out and repo the car?
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  Are you still talking about the criminal car or the person who lets somebody use this car or the party?
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  Okay. We've already come to conclusion that the private...
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  We're not going to start this again. You have to give us referential index. You can't just...
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  We're going to go back and go through this whole thing again. We went through it about three times and we're not getting anywhere.
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:45.000]  What is your question?
[01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  The question is why does the used car lot have to bear the burden of a skip tracer and a repo guy?
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  Okay. That I can explain.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000]  Versus a...
[01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Stop, stop, stop. Don't ask 10 questions in one question. I can't answer them.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Okay.
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  Let me answer this question. The used car dealer sold the car. The ownership of the car transferred to the other person.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  And they took a lien against the car. So they have to use the lien process.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  The rental car agency did not give him permanent possession of the car. They didn't sell the car to it.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  So a whole different set of law supplies. That's why there's a difference. That's why you can't just oppose them.
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  Well, I understand that laws are made by legislators and I was just wondering why one situation has to use a private repo and the other situation can use the government.
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  That's because in one situation they actually gave possession of the car to the other person.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:24.000]  And maybe a part of this is you're not understanding how liens work. If you purchase a house and you get a mortgage on it, the lender gives you the house.
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  The house is yours. It belongs to you. And they have a claim that they can exert if you don't pay for that house.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:42.000]  When you buy a car, it's the same way. The car is transferred to you and you have full ownership of it.
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:51.000]  But if you don't pay for it, now they've got a contract where they can go back and seek a lien against it.
[01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  In this other instance, the other entity still owns the car, not you.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  So they don't have, they can't put a lien against their own car and use the lien process.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  So they needed another way to be able to get their car back because somebody astounded with it.
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  They can still use the same private repo and the private scripture?
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:20.000]  No, they can't. They don't have a lien. That's their car. They can't put a lien against their own car.
[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:26.000]  They can't go out and use a repo person. That's what they do up until a certain point. They go out.
[01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  Well, a repo person can come and repo their car. They do.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:44.000]  So, okay, the position you're taking is that if I go to a car dealer and I rent a car from a car rental agency and I don't bring it back.
[01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  How? Private repo.
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:53.000]  Their only remedy is to try to track me down and take their car back.
[01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.000]  Right. That's correct.
[01:27:55.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  That should not be their only remedy. You shouldn't be able to steal somebody else's car.
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  And their only remedy is to come and steal the car back from you.
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  If a person got sick, if a tornado hit it, they were in a storm, the tornado hit it, somebody stole it from them, people get rental cars stolen from them.
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.000]  That's a different issue.
[01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  If a tornado hit it and tore the car, took the car away, you can sue God if you want to, or you can sue the insurance company, but nobody stole your car from you.
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  But a person renting a car and not bringing it back is not a tornado. Somebody steals the car from the person who rented it.
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:46.000]  That's why they are unable to bring it back. That's not theft.
[01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  I understand that what I'm saying. That's exactly right.
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  If they're not, the law says the presumption is that when they demand a letter, the presumption is that you are intending to avoid payment.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  Yeah, yeah. And that's okay because all you have to do is come back and say, okay, I rented this car.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  And on this day, this car was stolen from me. And here's the police report. I show where it's stolen.
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  And it's not that I didn't want to bring the car back. I was physically unable to bring the car back.
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  So while there is an initial presumption that I stole the car, my demonstration that I was unable to bring it back overcomes the presumption.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  This all goes to the crime of face shit.
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  Hang on, Randy. We're about to go to break.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  All right, this rule of law radio, Friday Night Info, Marathon. Michael, I hope you're still awake on here.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:53.000]  We'll get back to you from the other side.
[01:29:53.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  All right, folks, we'll be right back on the other side of the break. 512-646-1984.
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[01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:04.000]  Alright folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio.
[01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:13.000]  Alright Randy, I assume you're now in a position where you can mute non-mute callers at your whim so you can get back with Sandra and get this wrapped up.
[01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:18.000]  We have a full caller board.
[01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:22.000]  Randy?
[01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000]  Oh, I guess it helps. Somebody muted my mic again.
[01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:29.000]  Okay, Sandra, this is not going anywhere.
[01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:34.000]  It sounds like you want something to be a certain way.
[01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  It's not that way and we're not going to be able to help there.
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  You may feel it's not right but it is the way it is.
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  This is how it is we can't fix it. You're talking apples and oranges here.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  The car dealer is completely different than the car rental.
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:09.000]  And if the car rental agency was stuck with having to chase their cars down if they rented it out to somebody and they had no recourse other than to chase around the country and try to find it.
[01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:21.000]  And then once they find it all they can do is repo your car rental costs would skyrocket through the roof and nobody would be able to rent cars.
[01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  And then everybody would be complaining about how costly they were that had to recoup that cost.
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:33.000]  Yeah, but their insurance, the insurance with the credit card that you put up is going to pay for that.
[01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:44.000]  No, you don't understand. You just need to somehow because somebody buys insurance that that has something to do with the person who takes the car.
[01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  It doesn't.
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  A crime doesn't stop being a crime because somebody's insured against the crime.
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  If you steal somebody's car, if you enter into an agreement with them to take the car and bring it back at a certain time and you don't bring it back, you can't say, well, they're insured to pay for it.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  So that wasn't a crime. We're still a crime.
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:19.000]  My credit card will pay for it. My credit card insurance. My credit card, not their insurance, mine.
[01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:25.000]  And so you're saying that you can, you put it on the credit card, steal the car.
[01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:30.000]  Your credit card will pay for it, so then it's not theft.
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  Well, I'm going to say this, that I personally rented a car. I asked for an extension.
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  So when I went to pay for it, I didn't have the money on that day that it needs to pay for it because I had overdraft protection. They didn't know I had overdraft protection.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:57.000]  The bank paid it and then I had to pay the bank back.
[01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  Okay, hold on. That's a different issue. Are you saying that after the bank paid them?
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  Okay, don't talk while I'm talking because my system, when I'm talking, it'll shove you down underneath and we can't hear you.
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  You're saying that you paid with a credit card. The credit card paid off the rental car agency. Is that correct?
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:27.000]  Yes, they always do. They pay off the credit card rental agency.
[01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:40.000]  Okay, stop. Don't go into a long story. Hold on. Okay, rental car agency got paid. Now, who filed the action against you?
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  No, it wasn't me. It was somebody else. Who filed the action?
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.000]  Yeah.
[01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  Okay, in that case, the rental car sent out a demand letter in this lady's case, sent out a demand letter to her home address under the presumption...
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:07.000]  Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Don't give me... Okay, look, this is going to take all night. I do not care where she sent the letter or who they sent the letter to.
[01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.000]  Give me the facts. Give me the end result.
[01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  No, but that's what the law says. And after the... It only becomes... You can only go to the police once you present that you sent a certified return letter to the address of the contract...
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  No, you're mixing issues here.
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  Yes.
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:37.000]  If the rental car company got paid, they can never go to the police, ever.
[01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:40.000]  That's what I'm trying to tell you. What the...
[01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:47.000]  When you're running around in circles, I'm still having a heck of a time figuring out what in the world are you talking about?
[01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:53.000]  Okay, this is taking way too long. We're going nowhere. We've got a whole stack of callers.
[01:37:53.000 --> 01:38:01.000]  I'm not going to spend another segment trying to figure out which one you're talking about. Now you're apparently talking about a third person that I don't know about.
[01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:07.000]  We're going to move on to the next caller, Senator. I'm sorry. We don't have time to try to sort all this out.
[01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  I'm talking about the credit card company.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  Credit card company. The guy gave his car to somebody else, but now apparently there's a third person. I don't know. We can't do this.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  So it's not making sense when I'm getting anywhere. So I'm sorry, Senator. We're going to move on.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:26.000]  Okay, we're going to go to...
[01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:31.000]  Henry in Texas.
[01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  Hello?
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  Henry, are you there?
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  Yeah, can you hear me?
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:38.000]  Okay, yes, I can hear you. What do you have for us?
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  Hey, my question was, and I haven't heard... I haven't had anyone addressing this, but the Federal Reserve apparently, the charter in December 21st of this year.
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  And from my understanding, two-thirds of the states are supposed to ratify if they need to renew the charter for the Federal Reserve.
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:07.000]  Okay, hold on a minute. I'm having a little trouble with your fidelity.
[01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  Can you back here the mic a little bit away from your face and speak a little bit slower?
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  It's kind of... When you start to speak, it's kind of booming. So I'm getting the first half of words and not the second half. Can you try that again?
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  Okay, can you hear me now?
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.000]  Yes, talk a little slower.
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  Okay. My question was regarding the Federal Reserve.
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:33.000]  Yes.
[01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:40.000]  And my understanding is the charter ends on December 21st of this year.
[01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  And what I'd like to... Maybe if you know, how are they planning to renew it? Because nobody has addressed it so far.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:40:01.000]  That is a good question. Michael, I know you're going to have the answer to this. I have no idea.
[01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  I would assume, you know, at least the presidential candidates will be talking about, because it's the most important institution in this country.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:13.000]  At least something, you know, blurb or something.
[01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  Oh, no. Oh, now, wait a minute. You don't really expect our political candidates to talk about issues that matter to you.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:37.000]  They would have to take a position. They want to talk about who's got their hair too long.
[01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:47.000]  They don't want to talk about anything important. So if I sound a little jaded in that regard, I am.
[01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  They're not going to talk about real issues. So I'm not surprised that they're not mentioning it, especially if it's a difficult issue.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:04.000]  Well, Ben Bernanke controls our pockets, basically, because if he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed one morning, interest rates go up.
[01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  You know, mortgage rates go up following that.
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:16.000]  He doesn't care what side of the bed he wakes up on. Just what side of the bank.
[01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  Well, I was hoping one of you guys might know. If not, I'll just keep reading.
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:29.000]  Now, that's not an issue. I talk about what I know, but I want to be...
[01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:39.000]  One of the problems that we have is we have people coming to us all the time asking us questions and we're trying to give good answers.
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  And one of the things we have to be careful about is knowing the difference between what we know and what we think we know.
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:42:05.000]  And we try to be real careful. If I give a personal opinion about something I'm not knowledgeable of, I always try to be careful to state that it's my personal opinion.
[01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  Sometimes I give an opinion on something where I think I know and I don't.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:18.000]  And I would tell you that if I knew it, but I don't. And in this case, I absolutely know. I don't know a squad about that.
[01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:25.000]  Actually, I do know a part of it about the Federal Reserve, but this issue you're talking about, I am not familiar with it.
[01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:41.000]  It is interesting if their charter is going to expire. Do you know how the charter for the Federal Reserve would be renewed?
[01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:44.000]  Wouldn't Congress have to do that?
[01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  Well, supposedly, from my understanding, two-thirds of the states have to ratify the decision to renew it. So I would assume, you know,
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  congressmen would be or people would be loving the congressmen, you know, to say when this state comes, which is only a couple months away,
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:12.000]  hey, when this state comes, either we want to, we want it or we don't. And then we say either ratify it or they don't.
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:18.000]  Okay, what would be the consequences of not ratifying it?
[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:29.000]  That means the charter would end and since the private institution, there would no longer be allowed, I guess, to operate since, you know, in the capacity of that they are.
[01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:30.000]  Okay.
[01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  We'll have a contract with the country to do that.
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  As much as we don't like the Federal Reserve, the consequences of that would be absolute, almost immediate catastrophe.
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  Okay, hang on. This is Randy Kelton, David Steven, Daddy Craig.
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[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:32.000]  Alright folks, we are back in. This is ruleoflawradio, and we have a full caller board.
[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:40.000]  And we're going to keep going with those callers and see if we can keep Michael from falling asleep with nothing to do over here, especially listening to Randy.
[01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  Yeah.
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Michael, I have a comment on the Federal Reserve. Michael, will you tell us what you were going to talk about on the break?
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:47:00.000]  I know the Constitution. I don't necessarily know the exact language of the Federal Reserve Act.
[01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  It strikes me as very logical and plausible that it would expire after 99 years.
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:15.000]  So I believe that it probably is coming to a point where they would have to renew it.
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:21.000]  Congress would have to renew it. They've got the power to do that.
[01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:38.000]  However, the original Federal Reserve Act itself was unconstitutional because Congress, in Article 1, Section 8 Clause 5, is given the power to coin money.
[01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:57.000]  It is not given the power to print money. And if you go back through James Madison's notes, you discover that this was one of the issues that most of the founding fathers did agree on.
[01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:06.000]  And just a quick history lesson. We went into the American Revolution. We borrowed money from France and Spain after the American Revolution.
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  Guess what? They wanted us to pay the money back. And the states...
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  That's the war of 1812.
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  Well, the states were reluctant, a little bit slow, on picking up that war debt.
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  And Congress, under the Articles of Confederation, did not have the power to tax.
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  So the result is that all 13 colonies started printing money like it was going out of style.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  And as in any other situation, when you're printing money out of thin air, you create hyperinflation and the economy stopped, which is why they sent the founding fathers to Philadelphia in 1787.
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  Not that they didn't like freedom, but the Articles of Confederation weren't working, the economy sucked, and they were supposed to fix the economy.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  So when they went back, they created the Constitution.
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  So the Constitution gave Congress explicitly the power to coin money. And again, if you read the arguments, they did so explicitly forbidding them from the power to print money.
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:37.000]  So Congress has never had the power to print money.
[01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:43.000]  If they don't have the power to print the money, then they can't give that power to somebody else.
[01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:50.000]  If I don't have an apple, I can't hand it to you because I don't have it.
[01:49:50.000 --> 01:50:00.000]  Does Congress have any power to delegate even the coining of money?
[01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  No. If I want to become a policeman, I have to go through the academy, the police academy, and do all this really good stuff in order to earn the city's trust.
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  If I want to become a police officer, it is an office of trust. They give me a badge and I'm allowed to write traffic tickets.
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  I am not allowed to say, you know, Randy, I've been working really hard. I'm getting ready to go to lunch here.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  You take my gun and you go off and write a couple of traffic tickets for me while I have my lunch.
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:51.000]  Both of us would go to jail. You would write the traffic tickets and me for pretending that I could give you that power.
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:59.000]  I am not allowed to transfer the authority that I was specifically given.
[01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:13.000]  And when we keep the people, give Congress the authority to coin money, that does not imply that they have the authority to give that power to somebody else.
[01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:25.000]  When I was driving into Fort Worth today, I saw this sign that said, U.S. Mint.
[01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  I've never seen this sign that said, Corporate Mint, or any name for a mint other than United States Mint. That was granted specifically to the Congress to mint money, no power to delegate that ability, especially to...
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  But if the Fair Reserve Act was a constitutional amendment, can a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  I think that it can. If we look at the 18th Amendment, which presumably started prohibition, not only did alcohol become illegal,
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:32.000]  it also technically became unconstitutional. And I want somebody to explain to me how Congress has any authority to tell American adults that they are not allowed to drink alcohol.
[01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:47.000]  And when I teach my class, I get into my little sarcastic mode, and I said that after the 18th Amendment was ratified, everybody in the United States stopped drinking alcohol.
[01:52:47.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  Everybody laughs because we know that there were speakeases and bathtub gin, and everybody continued drinking alcohol, perhaps even more so than they did when alcohol was legal.
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:21.000]  And I said, are you telling me that good, patriotic Americans ignored the Constitution? And the answer is yes, because that particular amendment is not constitutional, it is not pursuant to the Constitution,
[01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  which means that the amendment doesn't follow with the general essence of the Constitution, which is to protect the life, liberty, and property of the citizens.
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  So if one portion of the Constitution conflicts with the body of the Constitution, then we can call that portion of the Constitution effectively inoperative.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  It is inoperative, and under Marbury v. Madison, which was a Supreme Court decision from 1803, any law repugnant to the Constitution is null and void.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:24.000]  And Hale v. Hankel, which is a subsequent decision, says that it does not become unconstitutional the day they decide it's unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional from the beginning.
[01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  And so we the people are the final arbiters of what is or is not unconstitutional, and we the people are responsible. We the people are supposed to keep our representatives in check.
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  And when I go and make presentations, I will frequently ask people to raise their hand if they are good patriotic Americans. And not to anybody's surprise, everybody in the auditorium raises their hand because everybody's a good patriotic American.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:12.000]  And then I'll say, excellent, I'm really glad to see there are so many patriotic Americans. And then I say, please raise your hand if you can tell me how many articles are in the Constitution.
[01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:22.000]  And very sadly, nobody raises their hand. Maybe one or two if I have former students from my Constitution class in the audience.
[01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  But basically, nobody knows how many articles. So if you don't know how many articles are in the Constitution, what is the standard for being a good patriotic American?
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:43.000]  You know how to dress yourself in the morning? That qualifies you as a good patriotic American. I think we ought to set the standard much higher than that.
[01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:57.000]  We the people need to know what the Constitution says so that we can jump up and down and bitch slap Congress when they are doing something unconstitutional.
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:14.000]  And actually, was I straddled? Is anybody not clear in my position? I'm a little confused. Okay, hold on.
[01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  I think the mid-slap put it right where it needed to be, Michael. Okay, Henry, I think it's kind of clear that this is a very sophisticated question.
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:44.000]  And, you know, when I was saying earlier, let's play Stump the Constitution Trump. Oh, you stumped all of us because this is beyond my knowledge, specifically on this issue, and it is interesting.
[01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  What would happen if the Federal Reserve expired?
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  Well, let's consider what the Constitution, yeah, let's actually look at what the Constitution says about the minting of gold and silver coin, though.
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:15.000]  It specifically prohibits the state. It says no state shall make anything other than gold and silver coin payment for a debt.
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  Okay, legal tender for payment of a debt. It does not say what the federal government may use for its internal transactions, but if it's going between the state or any part of the state, then it's required to deal in gold and silver coin.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  And now, wait a minute. It does not, that's an interesting issue because it does not authorize the United States to create any money other than coined money.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:58.000]  Well, it doesn't allow them to create legal tender. There's a difference.
[01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:10.000]  Legal tender is never mentioned in the Constitution. Legal tender is not legal tender, it's tender as tender for payment of a debt.
[01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:30.000]  Right, and this is something, I know, well, hold on, we've got a lot of people waiting, and I'd like to hold you guys up a little bit on this because this is something I'd really like to address. This is an interesting and complex issue, so I'd like to go to it when we come back on the other side.
[01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig with the radio. I called in number 512-646-1984, and when we come back, I want to address this. Does Congress have the right to make anything they want to legal tender? We'll be right back.
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