ROL_2012-10-05_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:06.800]  A carload of teenagers pulls up alongside you and tosses a milkshake.
[00:06.800 --> 00:07.800]  Splat.
[00:07.800 --> 00:08.800]  What to do?
[00:08.800 --> 00:13.640]  Look at your camper in Albrecht and I'll tell you how one woman lost her cool in 2000
[00:13.640 --> 00:15.400]  bucks by seeking revenge.
[00:15.400 --> 00:16.400]  Next.
[00:16.400 --> 00:18.560]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.560 --> 00:22.160]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.160 --> 00:27.160]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.160 --> 00:28.680]  So protect your rights.
[00:28.680 --> 00:32.400]  And know to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.400 --> 00:33.400]  Privacy.
[00:33.400 --> 00:34.920]  It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.760 --> 00:50.720]  In Palo Alto, a woman was out for a walk when a Range Rover full of teenagers roared by.
[00:50.720 --> 00:55.440]  As they passed, one of the teens tossed a milkshake, which I'm sorry to say, hit its
[00:55.440 --> 00:56.440]  intended target.
[00:56.440 --> 00:57.920]  How did the woman react?
[00:57.920 --> 00:59.280]  Well, not well.
[00:59.280 --> 01:03.560]  She lost her head and hurt her purse at the car, which was a bad idea.
[01:03.560 --> 01:09.800]  For one, it was an expensive alligator skin purse, and two, it had 2000 bucks inside.
[01:09.800 --> 01:14.680]  The purse sailed through the car's open window and the teens drove off, minus one milkshake
[01:14.680 --> 01:16.360]  and two grand richer.
[01:16.360 --> 01:17.360]  The moral of the story?
[01:17.360 --> 01:21.160]  When milkshakes fly your way, it's always best to keep your cool.
[01:21.160 --> 01:35.320]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[01:35.320 --> 01:40.800]  In Texas, two schools have begun forcing students to wear remotely readable locator spine chips
[01:40.800 --> 01:41.800]  around their necks.
[01:41.800 --> 01:46.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back to tell you about a new campaign to put students under
[01:46.600 --> 01:49.360]  total surveillance in a moment.
[01:49.360 --> 01:51.080]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:51.080 --> 01:54.680]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:54.680 --> 01:59.680]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:59.680 --> 02:01.200]  So protect your rights.
[02:01.200 --> 02:04.800]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:04.800 --> 02:07.440]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:18.400 --> 02:23.480]  Texans pride themselves on freedom, but at two schools in San Antonio, big brother wants
[02:23.480 --> 02:24.480]  the upper hand.
[02:24.480 --> 02:29.440]  Officials at J. High School and Jones Middle School have come up with a nasty idea to curtail
[02:29.440 --> 02:35.040]  truancy, ordering thousands of students to wear tracking beacons around their necks.
[02:35.040 --> 02:39.800]  Campus readers continually scan the badges from a distance of 70 feet to monitor and
[02:39.800 --> 02:41.760]  record students every move.
[02:41.760 --> 02:46.920]  Our schools should be teaching kids how to participate in a free democratic society,
[02:46.920 --> 02:49.400]  not conditioning them to be tracked like cattle.
[02:49.400 --> 02:55.200]  To help stop school kids from being spy chipped, please visit ChipFreeSchools.com and my website
[02:55.200 --> 02:56.200]  at spychips.com.
[02:56.200 --> 03:23.200]  I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht for StartPage.com, the world's most private search engine.
[03:23.200 --> 03:33.000]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Ruel Valrero, except tonight
[03:33.000 --> 03:38.800]  it's not Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Ruel Valrero, it's just Randy Kelton
[03:38.800 --> 03:49.880]  that Eddie is tied up with a speaking engagement and Deborah is tied up with other issues.
[03:49.880 --> 03:53.600]  So tonight it's just me and you.
[03:53.600 --> 04:04.240]  And for one of the few times, I have the board, so since I have the board everyone must understand.
[04:04.240 --> 04:10.880]  I control the horizontal and I control the vertical.
[04:10.880 --> 04:16.120]  Ah, don't touch that dial.
[04:16.120 --> 04:23.480]  I'm just waxing back to older times.
[04:23.480 --> 04:31.800]  Okay, I'm going to be here by myself tonight and I do have some interesting things going
[04:31.800 --> 04:36.840]  on, but don't touch that dial.
[04:36.840 --> 04:42.160]  You will find this, I hope, very enlightening and entertaining.
[04:42.160 --> 04:53.400]  I've been doing a lot of research in this real estate area, but it seems that what's
[04:53.400 --> 05:02.360]  going on in the real estate area is sort of a reflection of the state of the courts in
[05:02.360 --> 05:03.360]  general.
[05:03.360 --> 05:08.560]  A couple of years ago, three or four years ago when we started this program, the courts
[05:08.560 --> 05:16.920]  were ruling against us out of hand at every turn, and we seem to have been manipulated
[05:16.920 --> 05:19.480]  more than we realized.
[05:19.480 --> 05:27.640]  The banks held mirrors out in front of us like a red flag, and we went after it like
[05:27.640 --> 05:31.880]  we didn't know any better.
[05:31.880 --> 05:36.240]  The banks were kind of like a briar rabbit.
[05:36.240 --> 05:40.040]  They were hanging out mirrors and saying, oh, look at mirrors.
[05:40.040 --> 05:46.080]  Look how vulnerable they are, and they sent everybody drinking the mirrors, kool-aid chasing
[05:46.080 --> 05:47.580]  mirrors.
[05:47.580 --> 05:56.440]  That way they had everybody focusing in one place, made us a lot easier to deal with.
[05:56.440 --> 06:05.280]  But as time went on, we began to realize that mirrors was a false issue and started going
[06:05.280 --> 06:10.280]  after other issues, more sophisticated issues.
[06:10.280 --> 06:21.760]  Well, somehow the more sophisticated issue, the more difficult issue to get to, turns
[06:21.760 --> 06:29.720]  out to be the simpler issue, and for the most part what I see out there are lawyers and
[06:29.720 --> 06:35.840]  pro-saves attacking more fundamental issues.
[06:35.840 --> 06:43.760]  It started out with chasing mirrors and show me the note and bifurcation of the note and
[06:43.760 --> 06:51.800]  all these issues that are rather complex and esoteric and hard to get a local judge to
[06:51.800 --> 06:55.000]  wrap his head around.
[06:55.000 --> 07:04.160]  And over time, we've gotten more sophisticated by backing away from these sophisticated issues
[07:04.160 --> 07:15.640]  and going to more basic issues like the contract, and whether or not mirrors was actually appointed
[07:15.640 --> 07:16.640]  as an entity.
[07:16.640 --> 07:20.280]  If they're not appointed, we don't care about them.
[07:20.280 --> 07:27.000]  Whether or not the deed of trust was valid on its face and what is emerging as one of
[07:27.000 --> 07:36.400]  a major issues is whether or not the notaries are valid.
[07:36.400 --> 07:45.320]  We're looking at all of these notaries and they are really turning out to be an elephant
[07:45.320 --> 07:49.520]  in the corner for the lenders.
[07:49.520 --> 07:55.160]  Years ago, I was a notary, someone paid to get me a notary stamp, a friend of mine that
[07:55.160 --> 07:58.520]  I helped get in the bond business, and he wanted me to come in and sign a whole bunch
[07:58.520 --> 08:01.600]  of bond forms.
[08:01.600 --> 08:02.600]  And I objected.
[08:02.600 --> 08:06.960]  I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, I was supposed to notarize these documents when
[08:06.960 --> 08:07.960]  the guy signs it.
[08:07.960 --> 08:11.040]  He says, oh, that's the way everybody does it, that's the way they've been doing it
[08:11.040 --> 08:12.040]  for 20 years.
[08:12.040 --> 08:18.120]  So I signed a whole bunch of them, and there never was a problem with it.
[08:18.120 --> 08:27.800]  And then I got into this foreclosure issue, and I began looking at the notary documents.
[08:27.800 --> 08:34.280]  And that is exactly what these lawyers have been doing.
[08:34.280 --> 08:43.760]  This is a standard common practice across not just the state of Texas, but everywhere
[08:43.760 --> 08:53.360]  that notaries were required, but they were considered a inconvenience.
[08:53.360 --> 09:00.240]  And no one ever seemed to pay attention to them, so they just cut corners.
[09:00.240 --> 09:07.560]  And now what they're looking at is a situation to where we're no longer in a totally fascist
[09:07.560 --> 09:09.840]  regime.
[09:09.840 --> 09:16.560]  We have, during economic good times, when everybody's doing well, we tend to allow
[09:16.560 --> 09:25.400]  fascism to grow, and fascism is essentially a government controlled by big business.
[09:25.400 --> 09:31.720]  So long as big business is making our lives easy, we're happy with big business, we're
[09:31.720 --> 09:33.200]  happy with fascism.
[09:33.200 --> 09:35.560]  That fascism is great.
[09:35.560 --> 09:39.440]  We're making lots of money, we've got a bass boat.
[09:39.440 --> 09:43.600]  We take off on the weekends, drink all the beer we want to, life is good.
[09:43.600 --> 09:46.280]  Why should we complain?
[09:46.280 --> 09:52.320]  But it is the nature of things that everything moves in cycles.
[09:52.320 --> 09:55.320]  We move from good times to bad times.
[09:55.320 --> 10:00.760]  I had some tapes by a guy named Jim Rohn, and he spoke to this issue.
[10:00.760 --> 10:07.720]  He said, summer follows spring, every year with regularity.
[10:07.720 --> 10:15.040]  Fall follows summer, winter follows fall.
[10:15.040 --> 10:22.760]  Things go good for a while, then they go bad for a while, then they go good again.
[10:22.760 --> 10:29.480]  Life moves in cycles, the economy moves in cycles, politics moves in cycles.
[10:29.480 --> 10:42.880]  We are at the point of the cycle to where those fascist influences that work to gain
[10:42.880 --> 10:50.680]  more and more power and corrupted the system to serve their ends is reaching a point where
[10:50.680 --> 10:55.440]  they're causing the system to collapse on itself.
[10:55.440 --> 11:02.600]  And as normally happens, those who struggle to gain all this power, wind up losing it
[11:02.600 --> 11:07.800]  in these times of change, and we're in that time of change.
[11:07.800 --> 11:15.600]  And what I see happening is, is that the courts in spite of themselves, they are absolutely
[11:15.600 --> 11:20.600]  corrupt and they're going to go with the current winner.
[11:20.600 --> 11:29.120]  And right now, the winner is changing from the big money, big politics influences to
[11:29.120 --> 11:37.960]  the ordinary individual because the big money, big politics is so screwed up to system that
[11:37.960 --> 11:42.760]  it's collapsing around itself and all the people who are the real power are standing
[11:42.760 --> 11:48.440]  up looking around and saying, something's terribly wrong here.
[11:48.440 --> 11:53.880]  And we're throwing out the entrenched politicians.
[11:53.880 --> 11:59.680]  And this always happens in these cycles, and it generally moves at about a 50-year cycle,
[11:59.680 --> 12:07.640]  all through history from the Sumerians today, that's 6,000 years ago, of recorded history.
[12:07.640 --> 12:13.240]  About every 50 years on the average, there is an economic upheaval.
[12:13.240 --> 12:18.680]  And every time I say that, somebody says, wow, it doesn't happen exactly 50 years, that's
[12:18.680 --> 12:22.720]  right, it doesn't happen exactly 50 years.
[12:22.720 --> 12:28.720]  Sometimes it happens 35 years, sometimes it happens 70 years, like in this case.
[12:28.720 --> 12:36.080]  But on the average, for 6,000 years, every 50 years, we have an economic upheaval.
[12:36.080 --> 12:47.200]  It is as if the economy is something alive, and you can screw it up only so long, and
[12:47.200 --> 12:54.880]  the natural forces that exist out there come back to exert themselves, and the economy
[12:54.880 --> 12:59.880]  writes itself, and that's what it's doing right now.
[12:59.880 --> 13:09.200]  But what we're seeing happening is we're seeing influences beyond the courts.
[13:09.200 --> 13:17.160]  This is a complex system, large government has always complex, and we always have these
[13:17.160 --> 13:21.240]  influences who attempt to control it.
[13:21.240 --> 13:28.280]  The problem is, they have to deal with human beings.
[13:28.280 --> 13:32.520]  And human beings are so hard to deal with.
[13:32.520 --> 13:37.840]  Anyone here who's ever run its own business or tried to employ people or work people,
[13:37.840 --> 13:47.360]  you'll understand human beings are very focused on their own personal self-interest, and that
[13:47.360 --> 13:51.000]  makes them very hard to control.
[13:51.000 --> 13:58.240]  And when you go from single human beings to groups, groups have the same kind of focus.
[13:58.240 --> 14:01.760]  And the larger the group, the more the focus.
[14:01.760 --> 14:11.760]  Right now, we're looking at some changing happening, some changes happening, from some
[14:11.760 --> 14:15.120]  areas that you wouldn't expect.
[14:15.120 --> 14:20.840]  I'm hoping that, I have someone I'm helping with a foreclosure issue, and I'm hoping she
[14:20.840 --> 14:23.880]  calls in tonight.
[14:23.880 --> 14:34.240]  Plus she filed a request with a notary on one of the documents in her foreclosure issue.
[14:34.240 --> 14:40.960]  And the notary failed to provide the sequential ledger that they're required to keep.
[14:40.960 --> 14:44.480]  She failed to provide a copy of it.
[14:44.480 --> 14:51.880]  So she filed a complaint with the Secretary of State, and this was in Colorado.
[14:51.880 --> 15:00.160]  Eight days later she got a call from the broker of the note that was being foreclosed on,
[15:00.160 --> 15:05.800]  and wanted to see if there was something we could do to work this out.
[15:05.800 --> 15:13.960]  And she instructed him that I would deal with you, but do a small fish.
[15:13.960 --> 15:19.720]  I have a lot bigger fish to fry, so I'm not really interested in working things out with
[15:19.720 --> 15:21.720]  you.
[15:21.720 --> 15:30.400]  And then yesterday, she got a notice from the Secretary of State of Colorado informing
[15:30.400 --> 15:42.600]  her that they had scheduled a licensed revocation hearing for this notary based on her complaint.
[15:42.600 --> 15:45.120]  And I thought that was very interesting.
[15:45.120 --> 15:50.440]  You know on the show I've been talking about how everything is political, and all politics
[15:50.440 --> 15:53.040]  is local.
[15:53.040 --> 15:56.160]  Here we have an agency.
[15:56.160 --> 16:02.280]  Now the Secretary of State may not go after the big banks, they may not go after the high
[16:02.280 --> 16:04.440]  level judges.
[16:04.440 --> 16:13.040]  But this is neither of those, this is just a local poll duck notary, the republic.
[16:13.040 --> 16:16.240]  So they're real easy to go after.
[16:16.240 --> 16:21.080]  And this is the problem those who would control the system have.
[16:21.080 --> 16:24.120]  And we're about to go to break.
[16:24.120 --> 16:30.920]  When we come back from break, I'll explain why this is such a problem to the powers to
[16:30.920 --> 16:31.920]  be.
[16:31.920 --> 16:38.760]  And it is a problem because everything is interrelated.
[16:38.760 --> 16:44.200]  And no matter how much control you have, there's always some kink in this armor that comes
[16:44.200 --> 16:45.880]  back to haunt you.
[16:45.880 --> 16:53.520]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens at the Craig Group Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[16:53.520 --> 17:23.360]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[18:59.520 --> 19:15.560]  now.
[19:15.560 --> 19:41.840]  We came in talking about how the system, no matter how much power you think you have,
[19:41.840 --> 19:50.760]  and no matter how much pressure you exert on the system, the system just has a way of
[19:50.760 --> 19:53.440]  screwing you around.
[19:53.440 --> 19:56.760]  This kind of goes to Murphy's Law.
[19:56.760 --> 20:01.080]  No matter how much control you think you have, there's always something that's out of your
[20:01.080 --> 20:03.280]  control.
[20:03.280 --> 20:10.000]  And our founders put together a number of checks and balances within the system.
[20:10.000 --> 20:19.680]  And those checks and balances, for the most part, act independent of one another.
[20:19.680 --> 20:28.720]  And they have a way of thwarting the best-laid plans of my sin men.
[20:28.720 --> 20:39.480]  In this case, what is thwarting the best-laid plans of the banks is the Secretary of State's
[20:39.480 --> 20:49.160]  need to police the notary publics that exist within the state.
[20:49.160 --> 20:54.280]  And Colorado is looking like one of the most corrupt states, as far as mortgage issues
[20:54.280 --> 20:56.000]  are concerned.
[20:56.000 --> 21:05.340]  The banks and those in positions of power have gotten laws passed to pretty well box
[21:05.340 --> 21:10.280]  you in on every turn.
[21:10.280 --> 21:17.920]  And then Ms. Francis files a complaint against a notary.
[21:17.920 --> 21:23.080]  And the Secretary of State wants to look like it's actually doing something.
[21:23.080 --> 21:35.180]  So the Secretary of State sent Ms. Francis a notice that they're going to hold a license
[21:35.180 --> 21:40.000]  revocation hearing on this notary.
[21:40.000 --> 21:51.260]  Now, consider the ramifications, they foreclosed, she went to bankruptcy, she's had a number
[21:51.260 --> 22:01.600]  of issues and all of these issues contained documents that were verified and a good portion
[22:01.600 --> 22:09.520]  of them were verified by this same notary because what it appears is that this notary
[22:09.520 --> 22:26.160]  was someone that was hired by the law firm who's doing the foreclosure.
[22:26.160 --> 22:34.000]  And the hiring, it appears as though they're hiring low-level employees and say, you know,
[22:34.000 --> 22:38.960]  we need a notary here, how about if we buy you a notary stamp and we'll make you a public
[22:38.960 --> 22:39.960]  official.
[22:39.960 --> 22:44.080]  And they say, oh, goodie, this is wonderful.
[22:44.080 --> 22:50.240]  So they get the notary stamp and then the boss comes to them and says, we got this stack
[22:50.240 --> 22:55.120]  of documents we need you sign for us.
[22:55.120 --> 23:00.520]  And this person doesn't know anything and they're working for a law firm and they figure
[23:00.520 --> 23:06.400]  these lawyers are smart and they know what they're doing and they trust them.
[23:06.400 --> 23:10.560]  So they sign this big stack of documents and then the lawyer takes the documents, sticks
[23:10.560 --> 23:14.800]  them up on the shelf and when they need a notarized document, they pull one of these
[23:14.800 --> 23:23.160]  off the shelf and fill in all the empty spaces and attach it to the document.
[23:23.160 --> 23:26.360]  And then they round up Ms. Francis.
[23:26.360 --> 23:40.960]  Ms. Francis sent a request to the notary for the notary sequential ledger and she didn't
[23:40.960 --> 23:44.520]  get it.
[23:44.520 --> 23:50.080]  So when she didn't get the sequential ledger that the notary is supposed to keep, I'm sure
[23:50.080 --> 23:55.040]  you all know what that is, anybody who's ever had a document notarized, you can only sit
[23:55.040 --> 24:01.360]  down in front of the notary and your document will have a jurorate on it.
[24:01.360 --> 24:07.520]  And on the jurorate, that's the acknowledgement, the notary will fill in, will write in the
[24:07.520 --> 24:16.680]  notary's name, will write in the date, will write in your name.
[24:16.680 --> 24:27.360]  And then sign it and then they'll take out this ledger, have you filled out the ledger?
[24:27.360 --> 24:30.960]  And there's a bunch of stuff they put in the ledger.
[24:30.960 --> 24:42.520]  Well, that ledger is a public document and the notary is a public official and so that
[24:42.520 --> 24:49.200]  ledger is available under the Open Government or Open Records Act of whatever stage happened
[24:49.200 --> 24:51.200]  to be in.
[24:51.200 --> 25:01.400]  Well, Ms. Francis requested that sequential ledger that the notary was required by statute
[25:01.400 --> 25:04.040]  to keep.
[25:04.040 --> 25:12.640]  But it seems like the cat ate it or she misplaced it or something.
[25:12.640 --> 25:17.040]  She could not produce the sequential ledger.
[25:17.040 --> 25:22.000]  So Ms. Francis filed a complaint with the Secretary of State.
[25:22.000 --> 25:30.680]  Now the Secretary of State is holding a hearing for the revocation of the notary's license
[25:30.680 --> 25:35.480]  to act as a notary public.
[25:35.480 --> 25:42.440]  Now here you're the bank and you have bought off all of these public officials.
[25:42.440 --> 25:51.760]  You bought the judges, you bought the legislators, you bought everything and you thought you
[25:51.760 --> 25:56.800]  had that notary bought and you did.
[25:56.800 --> 26:02.760]  But you didn't think to buy the Secretary of State and you probably couldn't because
[26:02.760 --> 26:07.760]  Secretary of State had a whole different set of agendas.
[26:07.760 --> 26:18.840]  If the Secretary of State revokes the license of this notary for improper verifications,
[26:18.840 --> 26:29.280]  every verification this notary has done becomes subject to being rendered for it.
[26:29.280 --> 26:39.680]  The bank has based its entire action on the acts of this notary.
[26:39.680 --> 26:46.360]  The smallest cog in the wheel can be the one that can cause the whole thing to collapse
[26:46.360 --> 26:49.960]  if they rule against this notary.
[26:49.960 --> 26:57.240]  Then every document in the court record in Ms. Francis's case that was verified by this
[26:57.240 --> 27:07.400]  notary becomes void as a matter of law and any action based on that notary seal is thereby
[27:07.400 --> 27:11.720]  void as a matter of law.
[27:11.720 --> 27:23.000]  It is heartening to see how well put together our system is.
[27:23.000 --> 27:30.360]  Our founders had several hundred years of experience to draw from when they put together
[27:30.360 --> 27:39.280]  our system and they put it together in such a way that it had multiple and interlocking
[27:39.280 --> 27:45.960]  checks and balances and right now we are really beginning to see those checks and balances
[27:45.960 --> 27:47.600]  begin to take effect.
[27:47.600 --> 27:53.960]  I have a friend in Texas that went to his local bank he had dealt with for 30 years.
[27:53.960 --> 27:57.280]  They all knew him on site by name.
[27:57.280 --> 28:04.960]  He had them verify a document for him and the notary had him, they had to fill out every
[28:04.960 --> 28:13.000]  single line, everything in the notary even to get his thumb print and he said what is
[28:13.000 --> 28:14.000]  going on?
[28:14.000 --> 28:18.920]  You never had to do this before, oh no, this just came down.
[28:18.920 --> 28:25.360]  We have to make sure we do every single thing.
[28:25.360 --> 28:33.800]  I take this as very good news that what we have been talking about for quite a while
[28:33.800 --> 28:36.440]  is beginning to happen.
[28:36.440 --> 28:42.040]  This worm is turning, the system is turning against those who controlled it for quite
[28:42.040 --> 28:48.120]  a while and that is primarily because at this point about 20% of all of the cases in the
[28:48.120 --> 28:52.920]  court are pro se cases.
[28:52.920 --> 28:56.400]  The ordinary citizens expressing their rights.
[28:56.400 --> 29:03.240]  The sleeping giant is waking up and he is really, really unhappy.
[29:03.240 --> 29:11.040]  The result of his waking up has got every public official looking to keep his job and
[29:11.040 --> 29:15.760]  looking for a way to convince the public to elect him back into office.
[29:15.760 --> 29:21.080]  There are two kinds of power, money and votes.
[29:21.080 --> 29:25.720]  Right now, votes is taking precedent over money.
[29:25.720 --> 29:29.240]  You don't do any good to try to collect the money if you are not in office because you
[29:29.240 --> 29:31.680]  don't have any power to be able to enforce it.
[29:31.680 --> 29:36.120]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, we're live on radio, we're about to
[29:36.120 --> 29:37.120]  go to break.
[29:37.120 --> 29:45.400]  Our call lines are open, 512-646-1984, our call screener had to reboot so if you're trying
[29:45.400 --> 29:50.640]  to call in, call back, he's back up, we'll get you online and we'll pick you up when
[29:50.640 --> 29:52.800]  we come back on the other side.
[29:52.800 --> 30:00.280]  So give us a call, 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
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[30:18.200 --> 30:22.040]  I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a structural engineer, I'm a New York City correction officer,
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[31:06.080 --> 31:09.880]  so easy, and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[31:09.880 --> 31:13.040]  Oh, well I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then.
[31:13.040 --> 31:14.040]  Brave New Books?
[31:14.040 --> 31:18.680]  Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex
[31:18.680 --> 31:21.200]  Jones, Ron Paul and G. Albert Griffin.
[31:21.200 --> 31:24.680]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products and Calvin Soaps.
[31:24.680 --> 31:27.520]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[31:27.520 --> 31:28.960]  Go check it out for yourself.
[31:28.960 --> 31:33.240]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street just south of UT.
[31:33.240 --> 31:34.240]  By UT?
[31:34.240 --> 31:37.080]  There's never anywhere to park down there.
[31:37.080 --> 31:41.960]  Actually they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
[31:41.960 --> 31:44.160]  facility just behind the bookstore.
[31:44.160 --> 31:47.960]  It does exist, but when are they open?
[31:47.960 --> 31:52.760]  Monday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. and 1 to 6 p.m. on Sundays.
[31:52.760 --> 31:59.760]  So get them a call at 512-480-2503 or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com.
[31:59.760 --> 32:02.760]  Yeah, I got the warrant.
[32:02.760 --> 32:05.760]  I'm not gonna solve them.
[32:05.760 --> 32:08.760]  To the government then.
[32:08.760 --> 32:11.760]  Prosecute them.
[32:11.760 --> 32:12.760]  Okay.
[32:12.760 --> 32:19.760]  Oh, sir.
[32:19.760 --> 32:33.760]  Okay, we are back.
[32:33.760 --> 32:41.760]  We're in Kelton, Tennessee with Teddy Craig, Lula Radio and the call lines are open.
[32:41.760 --> 32:52.760]  We have Chris on the line and Chris is appropriate because Chris is our local notary guy.
[32:52.760 --> 33:01.760]  Chris, you have a question or comment for us?
[33:01.760 --> 33:06.760]  Well, I don't hear Chris.
[33:06.760 --> 33:13.760]  We've been having a little difficulty with call boards today.
[33:13.760 --> 33:16.760]  Perhaps we'll have Chris up in a second.
[33:16.760 --> 33:24.760]  Maybe I'll put him to sleep with my groaning voice.
[33:24.760 --> 33:28.760]  Okay, there Chris.
[33:28.760 --> 33:30.760]  Hello, Chris.
[33:30.760 --> 33:32.760]  We're talking.
[33:32.760 --> 33:35.760]  You're coughing.
[33:35.760 --> 33:38.760]  Okay, Chris is, it must be distracted.
[33:38.760 --> 33:42.760]  We have Stefan from Montana.
[33:42.760 --> 33:56.760]  Hello, Stefan, you have a question or comment for us today.
[33:56.760 --> 34:04.760]  Well, it looks like there may be an issue.
[34:04.760 --> 34:11.760]  I can hear neither one of them.
[34:11.760 --> 34:16.760]  Okay, let's go back and see if we can pick up Chris.
[34:16.760 --> 34:18.760]  Chris, I have you unmuted.
[34:18.760 --> 34:26.760]  Are you there?
[34:26.760 --> 34:32.760]  Okay, it looks like we're having some issues with the call board.
[34:32.760 --> 34:35.760]  So I have one more.
[34:35.760 --> 34:39.760]  It's been a while since Dan from Connecticut's called us.
[34:39.760 --> 34:47.760]  Dan, can you hear us?
[34:47.760 --> 34:55.760]  Well, it looks like there is an issue with the call board.
[34:55.760 --> 35:02.760]  Okay, Dan, can you hear us?
[35:02.760 --> 35:08.760]  Well, okay, it looks like I'll have to give up on that.
[35:08.760 --> 35:13.760]  But we've been doing a lot of work and a lot of research in this area.
[35:13.760 --> 35:19.760]  I did an evaluation of a case today.
[35:19.760 --> 35:29.760]  And in looking at the notaries, I keep finding really interesting stuff.
[35:29.760 --> 35:36.760]  I had a, I looked at a set of documentation where they had, everything looked just right.
[35:36.760 --> 35:40.760]  They had a notice of foreclosure.
[35:40.760 --> 35:44.760]  And on the next page, they had a jurorate.
[35:44.760 --> 35:51.760]  Now, normally when you have a notary on the second page of a document,
[35:51.760 --> 35:54.760]  then there will be something on the document.
[35:54.760 --> 36:02.760]  Generally the document say page one of two or three or however many pages there are.
[36:02.760 --> 36:07.760]  This document had one, only had one page, so it didn't have anything on it.
[36:07.760 --> 36:18.760]  One went to the next page and it had a jurorate on there with the person who was named in the jurorate
[36:18.760 --> 36:23.760]  was the same person that had signed the document.
[36:23.760 --> 36:28.760]  And so everything looked fine until I looked down below the jurorate
[36:28.760 --> 36:31.760]  and there was a line across the bottom of the page.
[36:31.760 --> 36:41.760]  And then there was this writing that said document ID and had a rather long number behind it.
[36:41.760 --> 36:45.760]  And then below that was the stamp of the clerk of the court.
[36:45.760 --> 36:51.760]  Well, I went back up to the notice of foreclosure sale.
[36:51.760 --> 37:00.760]  And the notice of foreclosure sale didn't have that document ID number on it.
[37:00.760 --> 37:09.760]  See, that's a common practice is you'll either put a footer on the document that names what the document is
[37:09.760 --> 37:17.760]  and states how page one of however many pages and two of however many.
[37:17.760 --> 37:25.760]  So if you have a jurorate and it has that footer on the bottom and page three of three,
[37:25.760 --> 37:34.760]  then it's relatively clear that this jurorate was intended to be attached to the above document.
[37:34.760 --> 37:45.760]  But this one had a date on the document that I'm sorry, not a date, a ID number on the document
[37:45.760 --> 37:49.760]  that the document itself did not have on it itself.
[37:49.760 --> 38:02.760]  So what that appeared to be is it appeared that this jurorate was taking from a document
[38:02.760 --> 38:11.760]  that contained this document ID and then put on this document.
[38:11.760 --> 38:21.760]  That's prima facie, prima facie evidence to believe that someone took a separate document with the jurorate on it,
[38:21.760 --> 38:26.760]  took the jurorate off of it and dropped it on to this document.
[38:26.760 --> 38:32.760]  Now in the state of Texas to do that is a class A misdemeanor.
[38:32.760 --> 38:42.760]  But if you file that with the court with the intention of causing economic harm to someone else,
[38:42.760 --> 38:45.760]  that's a felony.
[38:45.760 --> 38:54.760]  It's not only a felony for the notary, but for the person that filed the fraudulent document.
[38:54.760 --> 39:05.760]  And as culpability goes, the person who filed the document doesn't have to know,
[39:05.760 --> 39:13.760]  doesn't really have to understand that the notary is fraudulent.
[39:13.760 --> 39:17.760]  The fact that they filed the document is enough to implicate them.
[39:17.760 --> 39:24.760]  It's like if you drive your buddy to the convenience store and he goes in and comes out and says,
[39:24.760 --> 39:28.760]  you know how I'm kind of in a hurry, we got to get out of here, hurry up, and you take off.
[39:28.760 --> 39:34.760]  And he forgot to tell you that he robbed the convenience store.
[39:34.760 --> 39:43.760]  Well, you will probably, well, in a perfect world you would get off in the end,
[39:43.760 --> 39:49.760]  but you would be prosecuted because it was your intent to leave the scene of crime.
[39:49.760 --> 39:54.760]  The fact that you didn't know it was a crime is not necessarily relevant.
[39:54.760 --> 39:58.760]  If you could prove that you had no intent to leave the scene of a crime,
[39:58.760 --> 40:04.760]  but just intended to leave the front of a convenience store, you could beat the time,
[40:04.760 --> 40:08.760]  but generally you won't beat the ride.
[40:08.760 --> 40:16.760]  So whoever filed that document is subject to criminal prosecution along with the notary.
[40:16.760 --> 40:26.760]  And what I suspect is that the notary has no idea that this was done.
[40:26.760 --> 40:34.760]  So from my perspective, the best one to go after is the notary.
[40:34.760 --> 40:43.760]  And why would you go after the notary when you have reason to believe that the notary is an innocent party?
[40:43.760 --> 40:48.760]  Stephen, are you there?
[40:48.760 --> 40:51.760]  Man, this is frustrating.
[40:51.760 --> 40:55.760]  We can hear them, they apparently can't hear us.
[40:55.760 --> 41:01.760]  But the notary who's an innocent party is best to go after an innocent party
[41:01.760 --> 41:08.760]  because the innocent party is the one that will scream the loudest.
[41:08.760 --> 41:14.760]  When we go after them, they will rail in righteous indignation
[41:14.760 --> 41:23.760]  and they will feed us whoever took that verification from a separate document,
[41:23.760 --> 41:27.760]  added it to this document and then filed it with the court.
[41:27.760 --> 41:32.760]  It's one thing for us to come to the court and make the accusation.
[41:32.760 --> 41:38.760]  It's quite another if we come to the court with an affidavit from the notary
[41:38.760 --> 41:47.760]  that the notary gave us to keep the local prosecuting attorney from inditing the notary
[41:47.760 --> 41:52.760]  and gave us evidence against the filer of the document.
[41:52.760 --> 41:57.760]  Now we have them in a very difficult position.
[41:57.760 --> 42:06.760]  This looks like we're going to be able to do that here and this is definitely happening in Colorado.
[42:06.760 --> 42:16.760]  And we also are getting more documents from various attorney generals
[42:16.760 --> 42:22.760]  addressing settlements with the banks and I will speak to that when I come back on the other side.
[42:22.760 --> 42:28.760]  A friend of mine here in Texas called me two days ago and he got one of these documents
[42:28.760 --> 42:35.760]  and then the very next day someone in Colorado called me that they got one of these documents
[42:35.760 --> 42:41.760]  and this goes to the settlement that the attorney generals made
[42:41.760 --> 42:49.760]  with all of these different banks and servicing agents that at the time when it occurred
[42:49.760 --> 42:53.760]  a great number of people in the legal reform movement would jump it up and down
[42:53.760 --> 42:58.760]  and wave in their arms saying how this was a sellout
[42:58.760 --> 43:08.760]  and the attorney generals were just giving the banks a method of writing off their liability
[43:08.760 --> 43:14.760]  so it was all a big sham and I was one of them
[43:14.760 --> 43:20.760]  but when I looked at the documentation that they were sent it clearly stated
[43:20.760 --> 43:28.760]  that they could receive at least $840 bottom
[43:28.760 --> 43:33.760]  but depending on how many people engaged in this process they would receive more
[43:33.760 --> 43:41.760]  and that it had no way affected any claim they would have against the perpetrators of these acts
[43:41.760 --> 43:43.760]  and for me that was the most important part
[43:43.760 --> 43:48.760]  that indicated that the attorney generals actually meant business
[43:48.760 --> 43:52.760]  okay we're about to go to break this is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[43:52.760 --> 44:04.760]  and we'll be right back
[44:23.760 --> 44:29.760]  is that why we got the page to not come in today
[44:29.760 --> 44:34.760]  it was also told by ATF agents that they had been paid to not come into work
[44:34.760 --> 44:38.760]  the ATF initially denied these claims and now variously claim that one of their agents
[44:38.760 --> 44:41.760]  was in a free falling elevator which has been disproven
[44:41.760 --> 44:43.760]  or that they had been in an all night stick out
[44:43.760 --> 44:45.760]  or that they had been in a golf tournament
[44:45.760 --> 44:50.760]  as they try to sort out their lies all we want to know is did the ATF receive a warning
[44:50.760 --> 44:54.760]  and if so why did they not pass it on to others in the world
[44:54.760 --> 45:20.760]  for more information go to OJCFalminTruth.com
[45:24.760 --> 45:28.760]  and now you can too
[45:54.760 --> 46:01.760]  and click on the banner or call toll free 866-LAW-EZ
[46:24.760 --> 46:27.760]  okay we are back
[46:27.760 --> 46:31.760]  this is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Eddie Craig with the radio
[46:31.760 --> 46:35.760]  and I forgot at the beginning
[46:35.760 --> 46:44.760]  this is Friday the fifth day of October 2012
[46:44.760 --> 46:49.760]  we're closing in on the end of the world
[46:49.760 --> 46:52.760]  and I do appreciate all of our listeners
[46:52.760 --> 46:55.760]  we seem to be having some difficulty
[46:55.760 --> 47:00.760]  with the caller page, I'm working on it
[47:00.760 --> 47:04.760]  I'm going to try to go to Stephen, Stefan and Montana
[47:04.760 --> 47:07.760]  to see if we have this thing working now
[47:07.760 --> 47:10.760]  Stefan can you hear me?
[47:15.760 --> 47:19.760]  Stefan are you there?
[47:19.760 --> 47:23.760]  I have a lot of background noise, I'm not getting any voice
[47:27.760 --> 47:31.760]  it looks like it's still not working
[47:31.760 --> 47:35.760]  okay I'm going to go back to where we were going
[47:35.760 --> 47:38.760]  this may be a good night because
[47:38.760 --> 47:41.760]  generally we spend most of the night on callers
[47:41.760 --> 47:48.760]  I have for quite a while wanted to do an archive
[47:48.760 --> 47:53.760]  I've been researching and working with this foreclosure issue
[47:53.760 --> 47:59.760]  and I have a tremendous amount of information I'm accumulating
[47:59.760 --> 48:06.760]  and one of the things I struggle with all the time
[48:06.760 --> 48:13.760]  it's trying to, my apologies I didn't show off that much
[48:13.760 --> 48:18.760]  it's when you're talking to a microphone
[48:18.760 --> 48:22.760]  you can't see who you're talking to
[48:22.760 --> 48:26.760]  and when that is the case
[48:26.760 --> 48:29.760]  and I know if you're talking on the phone
[48:29.760 --> 48:32.760]  you get some interactive feedback
[48:32.760 --> 48:35.760]  so if you say something stupid or something
[48:35.760 --> 48:37.760]  somebody doesn't understand they can tell you
[48:37.760 --> 48:40.760]  but when you're on a show like this
[48:40.760 --> 48:44.760]  you're essentially talking to air
[48:44.760 --> 48:49.760]  and it invokes a whole different set of parameters
[48:49.760 --> 48:52.760]  in how we structure what we say
[48:52.760 --> 48:54.760]  so for me it's been very good for me
[48:54.760 --> 49:01.760]  because I have to structure my language much more carefully
[49:01.760 --> 49:07.760]  in order to try to take what's in my mind
[49:07.760 --> 49:12.760]  formulated into grunts and noises
[49:12.760 --> 49:17.760]  and in a way that you will create in your mind
[49:17.760 --> 49:24.760]  the same image that I have in mind
[49:24.760 --> 49:28.760]  and it's difficult to struggle with it
[49:28.760 --> 49:31.760]  but I've been working at this for a long time
[49:31.760 --> 49:38.760]  and I'm getting closer
[49:38.760 --> 49:42.760]  in doing this
[49:42.760 --> 49:45.760]  I'm sorry I'm trying to get the board up and stuff
[49:45.760 --> 49:50.760]  so I don't multitask well at this older age
[49:50.760 --> 49:55.760]  but it's helped me to reach to structure how I explain this
[49:55.760 --> 49:59.760]  and I would like to do a archive
[49:59.760 --> 50:03.760]  so if by the next segment
[50:03.760 --> 50:05.760]  if we don't have the board up
[50:05.760 --> 50:10.760]  I'm going to start in on a presentation
[50:10.760 --> 50:14.760]  about the mortgage issue
[50:14.760 --> 50:18.760]  and the last three hours left
[50:18.760 --> 50:22.760]  and I could probably do six or eight hours on this issue
[50:22.760 --> 50:26.760]  but I'll try to present this in a way
[50:26.760 --> 50:31.760]  to give you some background as to how this began
[50:31.760 --> 50:34.760]  how it was set up
[50:34.760 --> 50:38.760]  and how it's playing out now
[50:38.760 --> 50:42.760]  I do a show in digital reform
[50:42.760 --> 50:45.760]  and in this area we have a lot of people
[50:45.760 --> 50:50.760]  that deal with conspiracy theories
[50:50.760 --> 50:53.760]  I personally hate conspiracy theories
[50:53.760 --> 50:57.760]  but one of the reasons is that I know a number of people
[50:57.760 --> 51:01.760]  that no matter what happens
[51:01.760 --> 51:04.760]  it's criminal conspiracy
[51:04.760 --> 51:09.760]  this guy in Colorado within hours after the shooting
[51:09.760 --> 51:14.760]  I get emails telling me exactly how all of this happened
[51:14.760 --> 51:17.760]  who the FBI handlers was
[51:17.760 --> 51:20.760]  exactly what drugs they were giving him
[51:20.760 --> 51:25.760]  how they were giving him, give me a break
[51:25.760 --> 51:30.760]  so this kind of stuff really gets to frustrate me after a while
[51:30.760 --> 51:33.760]  however
[51:33.760 --> 51:38.760]  in dealing with this foreclosure issue
[51:38.760 --> 51:42.760]  I just can't get around it
[51:42.760 --> 51:46.760]  in 1999
[51:46.760 --> 51:51.760]  the legislature repealed the Glass-Steel Act
[51:51.760 --> 51:58.760]  in the year 2000 they repealed the prohibition against derivatives
[51:58.760 --> 52:03.760]  in 19, well let me go to this on the other side
[52:03.760 --> 52:07.760]  but it actually looks like
[52:07.760 --> 52:11.760]  they went out of their way
[52:11.760 --> 52:16.760]  to set this up so we would have exactly the crash we had
[52:16.760 --> 52:21.760]  and I don't like it
[52:21.760 --> 52:24.760]  I don't like conspiracies
[52:24.760 --> 52:29.760]  I have to accept 9-11 because the evidence is overwhelming
[52:29.760 --> 52:31.760]  JP Murrow building is overwhelming
[52:31.760 --> 52:34.760]  and it's incredibly depressing
[52:34.760 --> 52:37.760]  that we can't ignore it
[52:37.760 --> 52:44.760]  we can't say that didn't happen, that it wasn't a government
[52:44.760 --> 52:46.760]  psi-off
[52:46.760 --> 52:51.760]  but this foreclosure issue
[52:51.760 --> 52:58.760]  it is a lot more so
[52:58.760 --> 53:05.760]  in that it appears as though there is somebody behind the banks
[53:05.760 --> 53:08.760]  where everybody is blaming the banks
[53:08.760 --> 53:13.760]  it appears as though there is somebody behind the banks
[53:13.760 --> 53:17.760]  and this would go to the classic Bilderbergs
[53:17.760 --> 53:24.760]  and Rockefellers and all of the big old money
[53:24.760 --> 53:28.760]  and I've heard this stuff for a number of years
[53:28.760 --> 53:32.760]  and I tend to dismiss it
[53:32.760 --> 53:35.760]  but it's beginning to look like
[53:35.760 --> 53:38.760]  the banks were not the real culprits
[53:38.760 --> 53:42.760]  they were just a patsy
[53:42.760 --> 53:46.760]  the banks are owned by the real big money
[53:46.760 --> 53:50.760]  and in looking at how things are going
[53:50.760 --> 53:55.760]  it appeared as though the big money interests that were behind the banks
[53:55.760 --> 54:00.760]  were prepared to crucify the banks
[54:00.760 --> 54:06.760]  in order to further this agenda
[54:06.760 --> 54:09.760]  and it looks like exactly what they've done
[54:09.760 --> 54:13.760]  if you look around you'll see a lot of small banks
[54:13.760 --> 54:17.760]  cropping up all over the country
[54:17.760 --> 54:20.760]  and I began to notice that
[54:20.760 --> 54:26.760]  in a time when the banks were being hammered from every side
[54:26.760 --> 54:28.760]  we've got new banks opening up all over the country
[54:28.760 --> 54:31.760]  and that's what's going on
[54:31.760 --> 54:34.760]  and then you remember a couple of months back
[54:34.760 --> 54:39.760]  where J.P. Morgan chased the biggest bank of them all
[54:39.760 --> 54:41.760]  they came to the public and said
[54:41.760 --> 54:45.760]  oh my goodness, look what happened
[54:45.760 --> 54:50.760]  we made this monumental error
[54:50.760 --> 54:57.760]  and in the markets lost billions of dollars
[54:57.760 --> 55:00.760]  horse manure
[55:00.760 --> 55:04.760]  they didn't do any such thing
[55:04.760 --> 55:10.760]  nobody made that big of a set of blunders
[55:10.760 --> 55:15.760]  I looked at that and I looked at the small banks
[55:15.760 --> 55:17.760]  cropping up all over the country
[55:17.760 --> 55:23.760]  and I thought if I was the big money backer behind J.P. Morgan Chase
[55:23.760 --> 55:27.760]  Bank of America, Wells Fargo
[55:27.760 --> 55:31.760]  and they're being subjected to all of this
[55:31.760 --> 55:35.760]  political and economic pressure
[55:35.760 --> 55:39.760]  how would I get out of this?
[55:39.760 --> 55:42.760]  I said well I could collapse the banks
[55:42.760 --> 55:45.760]  and you know you heard all this crap over a couple of years ago
[55:45.760 --> 55:49.760]  that the banks were too big to fail
[55:49.760 --> 55:56.760]  and then you began to hear the banks are too big not to fail
[55:56.760 --> 55:59.760]  it appears as though the big money interests
[55:59.760 --> 56:02.760]  are setting up all these small banks
[56:02.760 --> 56:08.760]  they're stripping the money out of the big banks
[56:08.760 --> 56:13.760]  this five billion dollar loss by J.P. Morgan's horse manure
[56:13.760 --> 56:16.760]  that's just money laundering
[56:16.760 --> 56:20.760]  that's a way for them to pull the value out of the bank
[56:20.760 --> 56:22.760]  then they collapsed J.P. Morgan
[56:22.760 --> 56:25.760]  the bankrupt so my goodness we screwed up
[56:25.760 --> 56:27.760]  and it caused us to bankrupt
[56:27.760 --> 56:30.760]  that shut the whole company down
[56:30.760 --> 56:33.760]  and they take that money they pulled out of the banks
[56:33.760 --> 56:36.760]  open all these small banks around the country
[56:36.760 --> 56:38.760]  collapse the big bank
[56:38.760 --> 56:41.760]  then consolidate these small banks back together
[56:41.760 --> 56:43.760]  into another big bank
[56:43.760 --> 56:46.760]  that doesn't have the liability of J.P. Morgan
[56:46.760 --> 56:51.760]  Wells Fargo Bank of America
[56:51.760 --> 56:57.760]  I don't like to think that that is the case
[56:57.760 --> 57:01.760]  but everything is pointing at that
[57:01.760 --> 57:05.760]  with that said
[57:05.760 --> 57:08.760]  it helps to understand what's happening
[57:08.760 --> 57:13.760]  and makes it easier for us to realize
[57:13.760 --> 57:17.760]  that yes we can take on Bank of America
[57:17.760 --> 57:22.760]  Wells Fargo Chase, J.P. Morgan Chase
[57:22.760 --> 57:27.760]  because they're not as big and powerful as they appeared
[57:27.760 --> 57:32.760]  that the real power behind them is in the process of abandoning them
[57:32.760 --> 57:37.760]  and they're abandoning them to us
[57:37.760 --> 57:40.760]  so on the bright side of that
[57:40.760 --> 57:42.760]  there is some encouragement
[57:42.760 --> 57:46.760]  that because banks appear to be being abandoned
[57:46.760 --> 57:49.760]  we have an opportunity to seek some remedy
[57:49.760 --> 57:51.760]  now we're about to go to another break
[57:51.760 --> 57:54.760]  I'm going to see if we have the board of Chris
[57:54.760 --> 57:56.760]  can you hear us?
[57:56.760 --> 57:58.760]  Yes sir I can
[57:58.760 --> 58:01.760]  Alright wonderful then we will go to you
[58:01.760 --> 58:03.760]  when we come back on the other side
[58:03.760 --> 58:06.760]  so it appears as though we have the board working again
[58:06.760 --> 58:10.760]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens
[58:10.760 --> 58:13.760]  Eddie Craig, we live on radio
[58:13.760 --> 58:17.760]  our call in number is 512-646-1984
[58:17.760 --> 58:19.760]  we had a couple of callers
[58:19.760 --> 58:21.760]  Dan from Connecticut
[58:21.760 --> 58:23.760]  been a while, call us back
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[58:29.760 --> 58:30.760]  the board seem to be working
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[01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:27.760]  Okay, we are back
[01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.760]  Randy Kelton, David Stevens, David Craig with you, low radio
[01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:36.760]  and we're going to Chris in Texas
[01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.760]  Okay, Chris, can you hear me?
[01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:42.760]  Yes, sir
[01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:44.760]  Good, you got to call it a day
[01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:52.760]  I guess that means I don't get to do my three-hour presentation on the mortgage industry
[01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:56.760]  but I do would like to set up a show just for that purpose
[01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:00.760]  so we can take it and master it
[01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.760]  and, you know, in trying to talk to air this way
[01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:09.760]  you have to structure everything
[01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.760]  so one thing leads to another
[01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.760]  and you don't leave any open questions hanging
[01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.760]  but that doesn't mean you can't move quickly
[01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:19.760]  especially if it's for an archive
[01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.760]  so I want to build one that I can refer people to
[01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:25.760]  who don't understand what's going on
[01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:30.760]  and give them a really good in-depth understanding
[01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.760]  of what's going on in this industry
[01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:39.760]  Okay, Chris, you have a comment for us or a question?
[01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.760]  Well, you were talking about the notary stuff
[01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.760]  and when I originally, we're trying to call in
[01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.760]  I guess y'all were having a problem with the board
[01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.760]  but I was calling in because you were talking about the notary stuff
[01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:58.760]  and I was going to see if you needed any help answering any questions on the board
[01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:01.760]  Oh, yes, I was hoping you would call in
[01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.760]  We have Francis in Colorado
[01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.760]  and I looked at what's going on
[01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.760]  and people who've been listening all the time
[01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.760]  you know, when I first started the show it was about law
[01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:15.760]  it's about rule of law
[01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:21.760]  but over time it became clear that rule of law didn't mean squat
[01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:25.760]  that what was really going on was politics
[01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:30.760]  so over time I've learned to change my focus
[01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:36.760]  from how I believe things should be
[01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:43.760]  to how things are actually working in the world that we live in
[01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:48.760]  and that all goes to the politics
[01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:54.760]  and I looked at what went on with Francis and I was absolutely encouraged
[01:05:54.760 --> 01:06:04.760]  and it gave me some ideas of how we can go about generating more politics
[01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.760]  Here Francis files this complaint against the notary
[01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:14.760]  and the Secretary of State jumped right on it
[01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:20.760]  Now that kind of reminds me of the State Commission on Judicial Conduct
[01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:30.760]  If you file a complaint against an elected county or district judge
[01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:38.760]  both of those are higher level judges, they're always learned counsel
[01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.760]  and they are the bulwark of the system
[01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:51.760]  they are the basis on which the system maintains its integrity
[01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:59.760]  and the last thing anybody in public office wants to do is say that the courts are corrupt
[01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:06.760]  so they don't want to point at one of their judges and say this judge is corrupt
[01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.760]  but they do want to look like they're doing their job
[01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:13.760]  because they're not doing their job then you'll assume that they're all corrupt
[01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:18.760]  but if they're doing their job then you'll assume that they're only going after the corrupt judges
[01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:26.760]  Well if you examine the record then what you will find is
[01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:31.760]  that the State Commission on Judicial Conduct only disciplines
[01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:35.760]  justices of the peace and municipal court judges
[01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:45.760]  they never ever discipline a higher level judge unless that judge is indicted
[01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:50.760]  If the judge is not indicted he can do anything he wants
[01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:57.760]  and he will never be disciplined by the Judicial Conduct Commission
[01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:05.760]  but if you're a JP, a justice of the peace, or you're a municipal judge
[01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:12.760]  you are cannon fodder, you are the sacrificial lamb
[01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:22.760]  and what I got from this issue in Colorado was that the notaries are also the sacrificial lambs
[01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:29.760]  because they're even lower on the totem pole than the municipal and JP judges
[01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.760]  they're right down there on the bottom
[01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:43.760]  so that is a very interesting way to generate some really powerful effects because the notaries
[01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:47.760]  they verify everything
[01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:53.760]  if we undermine the notary we undermine everything that's built on top of it
[01:08:53.760 --> 01:09:02.760]  and I understand you've been doing some research into notaries in Texas particularly
[01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:11.760]  the one thing that most interested me that you mentioned was the requirement that the notary have an oath of office
[01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:18.760]  and that that oath of office be held by the Secretary of State
[01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:27.760]  Yes, that seems government code 601 or 602, it's in there, it's in the 600
[01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:31.760]  600 is the government code
[01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:36.760]  600, I need to know exactly where it's at
[01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:47.760]  then I can cite that code, request that oath from the Secretary of State
[01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.760]  somehow I expect I'll get most of those
[01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:58.760]  when you originally, first time you got your notary, did you sign an oath?
[01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.760]  Nobody ever mentions it
[01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:11.760]  That is interesting because if we do a request to the Secretary of State for that oath
[01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:23.760]  and we don't get it, we really don't care what the Secretary of State says about the validity of the notary
[01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.760]  if they don't have the oath, they don't have the authority
[01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.760]  so that may be an excellent way of undermining these guys
[01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:40.760]  and you know where this is going to create a lot of politics and I'll let you in on the secret
[01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:52.760]  the bond for a notary is much more, it can be much more devastating to a notary than I think it could be to even an attorney
[01:10:52.760 --> 01:11:01.760]  because we're not allowed to go out and just buy some insurance policy that covers the state and isn't an actual bond
[01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:05.760]  but our bonds are actual surety bonds
[01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:10.760]  and they only require $10,000 in Texas
[01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:16.760]  but I can tell you that as a notary and notaries doing these
[01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.760]  we typically go out and buy our own bond
[01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:27.760]  that is increased to the amount of about, most of us buy them for around $250,000
[01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:32.760]  this is, you have an E&O, what they call an E&O bond
[01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:37.760]  and then you have a surety bond that covers you as the notary
[01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:45.760]  the E&O is the errors and omissions which covers anything you've done wrong on the actual documents
[01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:58.760]  oh so if you have that bond, how would I request evidence of that bond?
[01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:08.760]  oh well it'll be on every, your bond is listed on your, it's listed with Secretary of State
[01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:17.760]  with your, you know, when you pull someone up that's a notary, it'll be listed, the name of their insurance company, the name of the bond company
[01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:24.760]  or the surety company that holds that bond and how much it's for
[01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.760]  oh that is wonderful
[01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:37.760]  I really, you know, I find it objectionable going around beating up notary publics
[01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:44.760]  there are these guys on the bottom just like us, grubbing for dollars
[01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:49.760]  and they're manipulated just like the rest of us
[01:12:49.760 --> 01:13:02.760]  however, if I can apply pressure, good chance I can get the notary to feed me the person above him
[01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:10.760]  I'm not sure if it makes any difference but I can tell you that most notaries aren't, they're not grubbing for money
[01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:15.760]  because most of them make more than attorneys make
[01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.760]  if they're doing this business they make more than, because we have several attorneys that work for our company
[01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:26.760]  who drop being an attorney so that they could do this because they made more money
[01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:33.760]  that is interesting, now that is something I didn't know
[01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:44.760]  oh this is cool, this changes the perspective, those of us outside the system really don't have a clue to what's going on in the system
[01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:52.760]  so if the notaries, okay, how are the notaries making this large amounts of money?
[01:13:52.760 --> 01:14:05.760]  if the title company calls you directly they'll pay you upwards of $200, $250 to sit down for 30 minutes of your time and sign documents with someone
[01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:12.760]  oh interesting, so the notaries are not just making $25, $30 on a...
[01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:25.760]  no, and I've thought about this in many different ways because the state says you can only charge $6 per stamp
[01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:36.760]  the way that we all get around this or around that particular law because it's a law that you can only charge $6 per page or per signature you stamp
[01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:43.760]  so the way we get around this is the rest of that is printing fees because we print the papers
[01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:58.760]  traveling fees because we travel to the person and we can charge all these miscellaneous fees that are not actual notarization fees
[01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:05.760]  okay so it is much more valuable to the notary to maintain his position than I had expected
[01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:21.760]  yes, it's really valuable because if the what Obama did in 2011, January 1, 2011 an executive order went into effect that Obama signed
[01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:31.760]  that decreased what a notary was making prior to that which was you can make anywhere from $300 up to $500 per notarization
[01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:37.760]  and that was the easy one
[01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:43.760]  wait a minute, say that again I missed, I thought you said it decreased what they were making
[01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.760]  can you say that again I missed how that worked
[01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:58.760]  yes, so Obama and one of the things he did when he came into office was he signed an executive order that went into effect on January 1, 2011
[01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:08.760]  prior to his signing that you could easily make $300 upwards of $500 per notarization
[01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:22.760]  after he signed it he decreased those fees to where now you can only I would say average $150 to $250 per notarization
[01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:28.760]  you know per going out and do a set of loan documents
[01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:35.760]  so they decreased the amount of ancillary charges you could assess
[01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:41.760]  yes, it's because they made the escrow company bundle their fees pretty much
[01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:49.760]  well they left them no choice but to bundle their fees and because they've bund one the notary fee into the escrow fee now
[01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.760]  ok, ok, ok hold on we're about to go to break
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[01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:34.760]  okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debra Steven, Daddy Craig, we move our radio
[01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:45.760]  and we are talking to Chris in Texas about this notary issue
[01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:55.760]  okay, Chris, the main thing I really want to know is I'm not as interested in going after the notary
[01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:59.760]  even if he's making a lot of money, if he's making a lot of money
[01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:04.760]  that's going to make it more valuable for him not to lose his position
[01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:15.760]  how do we use the notary to get him to feed us the lender?
[01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:28.760]  I'm telling you, threaten the notary with wanting the notary journal or the host of office especially
[01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:36.760]  because I know all kinds of notaries and nobody knows that we're supposed to have one
[01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:46.760]  that is wonderful, that notary journal seems like, not the notary journal, the host of office
[01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:53.760]  we get a lot of people talking about host of office and for the most part
[01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:59.760]  it seems to be a patriot pet issue
[01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:10.760]  but so far I've never seen anyone achieve remedy by going after a judge or a clerk
[01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:15.760]  or some public officials, both of office
[01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:21.760]  and that's because the judges and the officials are in the system and they feel protected
[01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:29.760]  but notaries are kind of, the way I've seen it are sort of a pariah as far as the system is concerned
[01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:35.760]  yeah, they're public officials, officially
[01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:46.760]  but those in the system don't consider them as part of that good old boy group that they have to protect
[01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:54.760]  no, and I would expect that notaries feel that way themselves, that they're not part of the system
[01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:55.760]  is that true?
[01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:57.760]  that is true
[01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:06.760]  so once you go for them, I suspect they're going to be concerned that they will get chewed up in the system
[01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.760]  just like they see everybody else getting chewed up
[01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:15.760]  so they may well be one of their really weak links
[01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:27.760]  and that may be the place, I'm not so much interested in even getting the documents that the notary verified thrown out
[01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:29.760]  and we can do that
[01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:36.760]  but I think the notary is a lot more valuable to us than just that
[01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:42.760]  and for instance, I addressed today, let me get your opinion on it
[01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:46.760]  I have a notice of foreclosure
[01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:50.760]  in this particular case, it's out of Austin
[01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:54.760]  I've got three notices of foreclosure, two by a woman
[01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:57.760]  and neither one of those are verified
[01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.760]  one by a man, named John Lynch
[01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.760]  and it has a jurat on it
[01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:09.760]  the jurat is on a separate page
[01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:13.760]  there are no footers on either page
[01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:20.760]  below the jurat, there's a line and under the line on the left hand side
[01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:25.760]  there's a little printed notation that says
[01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:33.760]  document ID colon and then this 8 or 10 digit number
[01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:42.760]  below that on the right hand corner is the clerk stamp
[01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:48.760]  well, when I go up to the notice of foreclosure itself
[01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:52.760]  it has no page numbers, it has no footer
[01:23:52.760 --> 01:24:00.760]  and it certainly does not have this document ID number on it anywhere
[01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:08.760]  so the question arises, where did that document ID number come from?
[01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:13.760]  it may very well be the document ID number 4
[01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.760]  and don't quote me on this because I haven't looked this up
[01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:21.760]  but it may very well be the document ID number 4
[01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:27.760]  the states jurat that they have and provide to the notaries that is
[01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:31.760]  I didn't explain this well, we have the jurat
[01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:37.760]  and then the stamp below the jurat and then there's about an inch or two space
[01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:41.760]  the only thing on this document is the jurat
[01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:45.760]  and the note and the clerk stamp down the bottom left hand corner
[01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.760]  the right hand corner
[01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.760]  so there's a jurat up at the top and then there's this big space in between
[01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:54.760]  and then down towards the bottom of the document
[01:24:54.760 --> 01:25:00.760]  there's this line and under the line there's document ID so and so
[01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:03.760]  so I looked at that and I wondered
[01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:12.760]  where is the other page to document number so and so
[01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.760]  it does not appear to be the document above
[01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:23.760]  because the document above does not have that document ID number on it
[01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:33.760]  what it appears is this jurat was part of another of a different document
[01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:40.760]  and some moron took this separate page because they're in separate pages
[01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:48.760]  there was no footer that indicated that this page absolutely went with the document
[01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:50.760]  the page before it
[01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:58.760]  so they just pulled this page and stuck it on the end of this notice of foreclosure
[01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:06.760]  so they took a jurat out of the actual document that were signed before
[01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:13.760]  or they had a jurat made that was just kind of open-ended
[01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.760]  this one didn't appear to be open-ended
[01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:23.760]  okay, it did have the date, the name of the signatory
[01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:32.760]  and the printed name of the notary was in a rubber stamp
[01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:38.760]  the only thing, only anomaly on the document was
[01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.760]  this document ID number
[01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:45.760]  I was prepared to make the argument that
[01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:51.760]  there was nothing on this jurat page to indicate
[01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.760]  that it belonged to the document above it
[01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.760]  I guess I would have expected a footnote
[01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:07.760]  or the document above it had a my N number, a MERSNI
[01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.760]  MERS identification number on it
[01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:15.760]  if this document had the MERS identification number on it that would indicate these two documents
[01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.760]  absolutely went together
[01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.760]  if that number would appear nowhere else
[01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:28.760]  this document had an ID number that had to be a unique number
[01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:33.760]  but that unique number was not on the document above it
[01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:37.760]  you could make that argument Randy
[01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:43.760]  and because these notaries are doing work for a corporation
[01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:47.760]  now when I worked for this particular oil company
[01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:50.760]  we had a notary there who never kept a journal
[01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:54.760]  and she notarized all kinds of documents for our company
[01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:59.760]  and never kept a journal for them
[01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.760]  and if they didn't produce for that journal
[01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:07.760]  if that jurat goes to that document
[01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.760]  I'd say they're in some trouble
[01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:12.760]  yeah I would say
[01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:15.760]  felony tampering with a government document
[01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.760]  felony executing
[01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:21.760]  let's see
[01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:28.760]  there's a special statute
[01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.760]  for executing a legal document
[01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:34.760]  I was just talking to Ken about that
[01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:36.760]  there's three different things here
[01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:39.760]  aggravated perjury, felony tampering with another document
[01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:45.760]  and executing a legal process by deception
[01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:47.760]  I forget the exact terminology
[01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.760]  but that's where I'm looking to go
[01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:57.760]  I absolutely have no intention of getting the notary prosecuted for felony
[01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:59.760]  that's not my intent
[01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.760]  that could happen but that's not my intent
[01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:06.760]  under the misprison of felony statutes
[01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:08.760]  it's my duty to report it
[01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:11.760]  but just because I have to report it
[01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.760]  doesn't mean I want this person to go to prison
[01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:16.760]  I have another agenda
[01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.760]  my agenda is to stop the foreclosure
[01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:21.760]  make the foreclosure go away
[01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:23.760]  now if I could put the lender in prison
[01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:26.760]  that would be cool beans
[01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:29.760]  but the notary is one of these
[01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.760]  functionaries down here on the bottom
[01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:34.760]  just drawn into these schemes
[01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:37.760]  I just want to know how best to utilize the notary
[01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:39.760]  to seek remedy
[01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.760]  okay we have a couple more callers
[01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:44.760]  Chris I'm kind of like you to hang around
[01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:47.760]  I might want to talk to you later
[01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:49.760]  when I come back on the other side
[01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.760]  I will take Gerald from Texas and Frank from New York
[01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.760]  so I don't want him to wait too long on us
[01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.760]  Randy Caldwell is going to be great
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[01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.760]  the grand jury did not want to hear anything I had to say
[01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:15.760]  the decision was made not to pursue
[01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:17.760]  any more of those individuals
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[01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:38.760]  okay we are back
[01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:40.760]  Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig
[01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:42.760]  real live radio
[01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:49.760]  and we're gonna go to Gerald in Texas
[01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:55.760]  Hello Gerald, what do you have for us today?
[01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:57.760]  Hi, how's it going?
[01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:02.760]  I'm calling to see how would you go about an appeal
[01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:11.760]  and this is for a city ordinance
[01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:17.760]  okay for appeal you have to be a whole lot more specific
[01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:19.760]  than just a city ordinance
[01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:26.760]  on appeal you have to appeal based on writ of error
[01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:32.760]  what did they do wrong according to law
[01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:35.760]  okay let me back up a bit
[01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:39.760]  a trial judge has a duty
[01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:44.760]  to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:48.760]  then he must apply the law as it comes to him
[01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.760]  to the facts in the case
[01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.760]  in order to file an appeal
[01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:56.760]  you need to say
[01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:00.760]  these are the facts that were developed in the court
[01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.760]  according to the rules of evidence
[01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:08.760]  and possibly these were the facts accepted by the court
[01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:15.760]  that were not in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:19.760]  this is the law presented to the court
[01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:27.760]  and these are the findings of facts and conclusions at law of the court
[01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:33.760]  did you request a finding of facts and conclusions at law?
[01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:38.760]  yes sure did for all the motions he denied
[01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:43.760]  okay he denied findings of facts and conclusions at law
[01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:50.760]  no I requested that he would provide findings of facts
[01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:54.760]  and conclusions at laws for denying my motions
[01:34:54.760 --> 01:35:00.760]  oh good okay now before you can perfect your appeal
[01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:04.760]  okay have you filed a motion for reconsideration?
[01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:06.760]  no I haven't
[01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.760]  how long has it been since a ruling was handed down?
[01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:19.760]  I'm not sure the appeal deal was this Monday
[01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.760]  okay good you'll have time
[01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:26.760]  file a motion for reconsideration say your honor
[01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:31.760]  these are the facts developed in the case
[01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:36.760]  this is the law as it applies to those facts
[01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:48.760]  this is the conclusion that should be drawn from the law as it applies to these facts
[01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:54.760]  ask the court to reconsider its decision and come to this conclusion
[01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:59.760]  and you can expect the court to deny your motion for reconsideration
[01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:06.760]  but that's a necessary step in order to perfect your appeal
[01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:09.760]  and then when you appeal
[01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:13.760]  okay you have requested finding the facts and conclusions at law
[01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:17.760]  I would suggest going to the county court
[01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:20.760]  and petition for a writ of mandamus
[01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:24.760]  to order the municipal court judge
[01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:29.760]  to tell you why the judge came to the decision that he came to
[01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.760]  because you cannot appeal your case
[01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:40.760]  unless you know the law and the facts applied by the judge
[01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.760]  so by not giving you findings of facts and conclusions at law
[01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:48.760]  the judge denies you in due process
[01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:52.760]  and I would suggest that since he denied the motion
[01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:56.760]  you file a judicial conduct complaint against him
[01:36:56.760 --> 01:37:03.760]  did you hear what I was talking about earlier about cannon fodder
[01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:05.760]  no I didn't
[01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:10.760]  okay the judicial state commission on judicial conduct
[01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:18.760]  will never discipline a county or district judge
[01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:22.760]  unless that judge has been indicted by a grand jury
[01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:26.760]  that's their history
[01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:31.760]  and justice of the peace and municipal judges
[01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:35.760]  believe that the judicial conduct commission
[01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:41.760]  will use them as sacrificial lambs to make it look as though they're doing their business
[01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:43.760]  and doing their job
[01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:48.760]  and they are absolutely right according to the record
[01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:54.760]  the state commission on judicial conduct will crucify these guys
[01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:57.760]  to make it look like they're doing something
[01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:02.760]  and hide the fact that they never go after higher level judges
[01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:06.760]  that's the politics you're dealing with
[01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:14.760]  so I suggest you file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge
[01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:19.760]  for failing to perform a ministerial duty
[01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:26.760]  a ministerial duty is a duty over which the judge has no discretion
[01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:34.760]  now a judge has discretion to make certain determinations
[01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:39.760]  but one thing he does not have discretion over
[01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:46.760]  is failing to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:52.760]  and then applying the law to the facts in the case
[01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:56.760]  that is a statutory duty
[01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.760]  and it is a ministerial duty
[01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:04.760]  meaning he has no discretion in the matter
[01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:12.760]  so you never accuse, attack the judge for the decision that he made
[01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:17.760]  that is unassailable, we can't get there
[01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:23.760]  what you can do is attack the judge for failing to determine the facts
[01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:26.760]  in accordance with the rules of evidence
[01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:31.760]  and then failing to apply the law to the facts
[01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.760]  and when you file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge
[01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.760]  it's going to terrify him
[01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:44.760]  because he believes that judicial conduct complaint commission will crucify him
[01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:49.760]  just to run cover for the high level judges and he is right
[01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:52.760]  that's exactly what they'll do
[01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:55.760]  and then prepare a criminal charge against him
[01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:59.760]  for denying your right to due process
[01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:02.760]  and file that with a district attorney
[01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:06.760]  but a district attorney is not going to want to prosecute
[01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.760]  and we don't care
[01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:13.760]  we just want to kick the district attorney around a while
[01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:19.760]  because we want to get the district attorney po'd at this local judge
[01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:23.760]  so now he's got the state commission on judicial conduct
[01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.760]  and the local district attorney having his investigator calling the judge
[01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:33.760]  saying they got this guy down here trying to get you arrested blah blah blah
[01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:38.760]  and he's not going to arrest him but it's going to terrify the judge
[01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:42.760]  is the court that the judge is in
[01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:46.760]  the court of record
[01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:50.760]  five
[01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:54.760]  okay what municipality is the judge in
[01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.760]  is it a bigger one or a little one
[01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.760]  it's a little one city of Portland
[01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:03.760]  wait do you say Fort Worth
[01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:06.760]  no city of Portland
[01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:09.760]  oh okay you need to find out
[01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:14.760]  is the judge a bar card carrying attorney
[01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.760]  yes he is we got that number already
[01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:20.760]  have you bar grieved him yet
[01:41:20.760 --> 01:41:22.760]  no we haven't
[01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:25.760]  oh you got to do that
[01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:29.760]  he can only be a municipal judge
[01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:33.760]  in a court of record
[01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:37.760]  if he is a bar card carrying attorney
[01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:42.760]  so that affects his card
[01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:47.760]  what he does in the courtroom he only does because he has the card
[01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:53.760]  so file a bar grievance against him that'll double his malpractice insurance immediately
[01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:55.760]  okay
[01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:01.760]  and if he's a municipal judge he's a municipal judge because he sucks as a lawyer
[01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:06.760]  if he was a good lawyer he'd be making a lot of money
[01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:07.760]  yeah
[01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:10.760]  if he's a municipal judge
[01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:16.760]  he can't make as much money as the lawyers who are actually out representing clients
[01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:22.760]  so he goes and gets hired as a municipal judge so he doesn't have to do anything
[01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:25.760]  that's who we're dealing with in municipal courts
[01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:29.760]  and they got a bar card grieved him
[01:42:29.760 --> 01:42:31.760]  now
[01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:35.760]  if they don't have a private practice
[01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:40.760]  then the city will maintain his malpractice insurance
[01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:46.760]  unless he gets too many grievances and his malpractice insurance gets too high
[01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:48.760]  then they'll fire him
[01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:53.760]  and get somebody they don't have to pay 40, 60, 80 thousand dollars a year
[01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:56.760]  for malpractice insurance plus his salary
[01:42:56.760 --> 01:43:04.760]  this is where his real vulnerability is has nothing to do with law
[01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:08.760]  always goes to the money
[01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:13.760]  so if this judge wants to jerk you around let's see how much money we can cost him
[01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:18.760]  well that appeals is in the county court
[01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:23.760]  okay oh yeah the appeal will go to the county court
[01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:30.760]  so before you can appeal you need to file a motion for reconsideration
[01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.760]  and that stops the clock on appeal
[01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:35.760]  okay
[01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:37.760]  and then when he denies that motion
[01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:39.760]  then you file a notice of appeal
[01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.760]  this is Randy Kelch and Deborah Steen and Jenny Craig
[01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:45.760]  we'll leave the radio, hang on Gerald, we'll be right back on the other side
[01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:50.760]  our call in number 512-646-1984
[01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:52.760]  give us a call, get in line
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[01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:05.760]  but finding things on the internet isn't so easy
[01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:08.760]  and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with
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[01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.760]  it's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street
[01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:31.760]  just south of UT
[01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:33.760]  oh by UT?
[01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:35.760]  there's never anywhere to park down there
[01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:38.760]  actually they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers
[01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:41.760]  at the 500 MLK parking facility
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[01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:28.760]  okay we are back
[01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:30.760]  Randy Kelton dead to sleep
[01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:31.760]  very great
[01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:33.760]  we're on radio
[01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:38.760]  and we are talking to Gerald in Texas
[01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:40.760]  and I'll bring you up soon
[01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:42.760]  my page clears
[01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:44.760]  okay Gerald
[01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:46.760]  yeah first thing you have to do
[01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.760]  is the motion for reconsideration
[01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.760]  and on the
[01:46:55.760 --> 01:46:58.760]  findings of fact and conclusions at law
[01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:01.760]  I petition the county court for rid of mandamus
[01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:04.760]  because you're trying to appeal to the county court
[01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:06.760]  and you don't know what to appeal
[01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:09.760]  you need that finding the fact and conclusions at law
[01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:11.760]  to know how to craft your appeal
[01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.760]  because
[01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:17.760]  since this is a court of record
[01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:22.760]  you do not get a trial de novo
[01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:24.760]  trial de novo
[01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:30.760]  means you don't have to appeal based on writ of error
[01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:34.760]  court of record you must appeal on writ of error
[01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:36.760]  you don't know what the error is
[01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:39.760]  if you don't know what's judge ruled
[01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:42.760]  so petition the county court for rid of mandamus
[01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:46.760]  ordering the judge to tell you why he ruled the way he did
[01:47:46.760 --> 01:47:50.760]  and that will also stop the clock
[01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:55.760]  does it sound like fun?
[01:47:55.760 --> 01:48:00.760]  yeah I did notice that they had changed
[01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:05.760]  the things about
[01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:09.760]  the first thing was that it was based on
[01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:13.760]  city ordinance which was parked on unapproved surface
[01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:17.760]  and my appeal is here
[01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:21.760]  they totally changed what the actual cause was
[01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:24.760]  and there's actually two of them
[01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:27.760]  the first one is parked on parked or stand
[01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.760]  in front of public or private drive
[01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:37.760]  the second one is parking or standing in prohibited area
[01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:40.760]  okay so these are parking tickets?
[01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:43.760]  yeah
[01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:48.760]  oh that's got to be so much fun to fight
[01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:52.760]  okay so I missed what actually went on
[01:48:52.760 --> 01:48:57.760]  will you say that again?
[01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:01.760]  the whole deal was
[01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.760]  they wrote me a ticket, two tickets for parking
[01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:09.760]  on an unapproved surface
[01:49:09.760 --> 01:49:13.760]  which is a city ordinance
[01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:17.760]  and my appeal is here
[01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:21.760]  they totally changed the two deals
[01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:25.760]  first one is parking or standing in prohibited area
[01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:29.760]  second is parked or stand in front of public or private drive
[01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:34.760]  are you saying that they changed the charge?
[01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:37.760]  you're kind of breaking up I'm not sure what you were saying
[01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.760]  yeah yeah that's what they did
[01:49:40.760 --> 01:49:47.760]  they completely changed what I was charged with
[01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:51.760]  when did they make that change?
[01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:55.760]  my letter for my arrangement hearing
[01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:00.760]  okay
[01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.760]  did they put a ticket on your car?
[01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:05.760]  yeah
[01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:08.760]  and when you got the court it was a different charge?
[01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:10.760]  no no
[01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:15.760]  the municipal court was the same
[01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:19.760]  as a ticket but I'm saying for the appeals
[01:50:19.760 --> 01:50:22.760]  they changed it
[01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:24.760]  wait a minute
[01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:27.760]  that doesn't make sense
[01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:34.760]  they don't have anything to do with the appeal
[01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:38.760]  the appeal is between you and the court of appeals
[01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:40.760]  uh-huh
[01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:44.760]  what was changed in the appeal
[01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:48.760]  were you convicted of a different crime?
[01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.760]  well this here the charge
[01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:55.760]  is parking or standing in prohibited area
[01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.760]  on my ticket
[01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.760]  okay wait a minute where is that?
[01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:04.760]  what document is it on?
[01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:09.760]  this is the arrangement hearing notice
[01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:11.760]  arraignment
[01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:14.760]  okay you were arraigned for a different charge
[01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:18.760]  than the one you were charged with originally?
[01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:22.760]  yes
[01:51:22.760 --> 01:51:30.760]  well okay but you were tried on the one that you were arraigned on
[01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:34.760]  is that true?
[01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:36.760]  you're confusing us
[01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:38.760]  I don't know what is going on
[01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:41.760]  did you get charged with one crime
[01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:44.760]  and get prosecuted for that crime
[01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:48.760]  and then the
[01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:51.760]  conviction shows that you were convicted of a different crime
[01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:54.760]  did you get charged with one crime, come to court
[01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:56.760]  and they were accusing you of another crime
[01:51:56.760 --> 01:51:59.760]  and then you got tried for the second crime
[01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:02.760]  this doesn't make sense I don't know what's going on
[01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:05.760]  no no
[01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:09.760]  when I went to court in the ministry
[01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:14.760]  I was found guilty on parking on unapproved surface
[01:52:14.760 --> 01:52:17.760]  I get my
[01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:22.760]  what was the initial charge?
[01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:24.760]  you're not telling us everything
[01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:27.760]  you're just telling us one piece and bouncing around the others
[01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:29.760]  so I don't have anything to compare it to
[01:52:29.760 --> 01:52:33.760]  the only thing I have is parking on a improper surface
[01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:36.760]  what was the original charge?
[01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:40.760]  that was the original charge parked on unapproved surface
[01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:42.760]  unapproved surface
[01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:48.760]  have you looked up a criminal charge of parking on unapproved surface?
[01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:51.760]  no
[01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:53.760]  then you don't know how to fight your case
[01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.760]  because you don't even know what you're charged with
[01:52:56.760 --> 01:52:59.760]  the city ordinance doesn't apply to me
[01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:01.760]  what city ordinance?
[01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:03.760]  what does the city ordinance say?
[01:53:03.760 --> 01:53:05.760]  you just said you didn't look it up
[01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:09.760]  no the city ordinance is parked on unapproved surface
[01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:11.760]  what is the
[01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:15.760]  did you read the ordinance that they're referring to?
[01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:20.760]  yeah but I don't know offhand what it exactly said
[01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:23.760]  okay but there was an ordinance
[01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.760]  with that designation
[01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:30.760]  did you get a designation of the ordinance or just a name?
[01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:32.760]  the reason I'm asking this is
[01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.760]  police officers go out there and they say
[01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:38.760]  well this guy was standing on his head squawking like a chicken
[01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:42.760]  and I charged him with standing on his head squawking like a chicken
[01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:45.760]  and then you go to court and the prosecutor looks at it
[01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:50.760]  and he has to turn that into some kind of crime
[01:53:50.760 --> 01:53:55.760]  he has to go find the law that says it's against the law of standing on his head squawking like a chicken
[01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:58.760]  I'm looking for the law
[01:53:58.760 --> 01:54:01.760]  what does the law say?
[01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.760]  I'm not interested in the words that the
[01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:07.760]  officer put on the citation
[01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:13.760]  they don't necessarily have anything to do with one another
[01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:17.760]  there's no law on that
[01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:20.760]  that's where I'm trying to get to
[01:54:20.760 --> 01:54:23.760]  is there a
[01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.760]  municipal statute
[01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:35.760]  that makes it a crime to park on an unauthorized surface
[01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:47.760]  and does that statute specifically define what amounts to an unauthorized surface?
[01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:52.760]  I've got to hear your emergency
[01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:55.760]  look, in order for us to help you
[01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:58.760]  in order for you to help yourself
[01:54:58.760 --> 01:55:00.760]  you have to start at the beginning
[01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:03.760]  you can't start in the middle
[01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:08.760]  you seem to have presupposed that the accusations that were made against you
[01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:12.760]  were actually accusations
[01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:20.760]  it sounds like the officer may have well have accused you of standing on your head squawking like a chicken
[01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:24.760]  if what he has accused you of doing
[01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:30.760]  is not very specifically designated as a criminal act
[01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:36.760]  and if the law is not so clear that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence
[01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:40.760]  could read the law and understand what
[01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:46.760]  the prohibition was and the law is invalid
[01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:50.760]  first we have to know what you're accused of
[01:55:50.760 --> 01:55:55.760]  go back and find the ordinance
[01:55:55.760 --> 01:56:03.760]  now we've actually had people come to us who were accused and prosecuted
[01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:08.760]  of absolute nonsense
[01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:15.760]  things that were absolutely not a criminal act
[01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:19.760]  the police officer just says I don't like the way he's walking
[01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:22.760]  I'm going to accuse him for walking wrong
[01:56:22.760 --> 01:56:25.760]  you file it with the court, the guy doesn't know to object to it
[01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:29.760]  the court finds him guilty of walking wrong
[01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:31.760]  they may have done that to you
[01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:40.760]  I have never heard of a prohibition against parking on an unauthorized surface
[01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:46.760]  now there is a prohibition against parking in a medium
[01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:49.760]  or parking on a sidewalk
[01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:54.760]  but that's specific enough that anyone can read the ordinance and say
[01:56:54.760 --> 01:56:57.760]  oh okay I know what a sidewalk is
[01:56:57.760 --> 01:57:01.760]  and it's illegal to park on a sidewalk
[01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:06.760]  but to say an unauthorized surface
[01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:12.760]  what are authorized surfaces?
[01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:19.760]  now I was parked on private property
[01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:22.760]  I wasn't blocking the sidewalk or anything
[01:57:22.760 --> 01:57:25.760]  wait you were on private property?
[01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:29.760]  yes
[01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:36.760]  is there a specific ordinance against parking vehicles on private property?
[01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:39.760]  no
[01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:43.760]  was your vehicle on a driveway or in a yard?
[01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:48.760]  it was on the side of the driveway in the yard
[01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:54.760]  is there a specific ordinance forbidding people to park their cars in the yard?
[01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:58.760]  yes parking on an unimproved surface
[01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:00.760]  that don't mean anything
[01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:05.760]  that's like saying parking on blah blah blah
[01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:10.760]  if it's vague in general, what does unauthorized surface mean?
[01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:17.760]  the judge's toes, the middle of the street, I don't know what that means
[01:58:17.760 --> 01:58:22.760]  and you can't be held liable if you can't figure out what the heck they're talking about
[01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:24.760]  what defines an unauthorized surface
[01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.760]  this is Randy Kelton, Debra Steven, J.D. Craig
[01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:34.760]  we have our radio, our call in number is 512-646-1984
[01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:37.760]  we will be right back and finish up with Gerald on the other side
[01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:39.760]  I'm not being difficult
[01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:42.760]  but in order for us to be able to address these issues
[01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:45.760]  we have to be specific in this way
[01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:49.760]  okay, hang on Gerald, we'll be right back
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