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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.760]  When the census form arrives, plenty of people fill out silly things, but fictitious job
[00:07.760 --> 00:10.960]  titles like Jedi Knights are apparently nothing new.
[00:10.960 --> 00:15.360]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back to tell you about a 19th century pastor with
[00:15.360 --> 00:17.360]  a sense of humor.
[00:17.360 --> 00:18.960]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.960 --> 00:22.560]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.560 --> 00:27.320]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.320 --> 00:32.160]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.160 --> 00:35.080]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.920 --> 00:51.200]  History and Peter Kittson study his antique census forms and church registers, looking
[00:51.200 --> 00:53.800]  for occupational facts that date back centuries.
[00:53.800 --> 00:59.640]  It can be a boring job, but when he found a parchment from 1819 by the very reverent
[00:59.640 --> 01:03.720]  Dr. Peter Scrimshire Wood, he actually laughed out loud.
[01:03.720 --> 01:08.600]  The reverent had enlightened his boring job with some very creative job titles, including
[01:08.600 --> 01:13.520]  Knight of the Needle for a Tailor, Beggar Maker for a government official, and Master
[01:13.520 --> 01:15.680]  of the Burnt Crust for a Baker.
[01:15.680 --> 01:19.400]  He even wrote Mantrap for a Woman of Questionable Morals.
[01:19.400 --> 01:22.400]  It's a 200-year-old joke that gets a laugh even today.
[01:22.400 --> 01:33.240]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:33.240 --> 01:34.480]  All aboard?
[01:34.480 --> 01:39.000]  When mold spread through the dorms of St. Mary's College in Maryland, the school relocated
[01:39.000 --> 01:41.040]  its students to a cruise ship.
[01:41.040 --> 01:46.960]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht with an ocean tale of kids sailing through college next.
[01:46.960 --> 01:48.520]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.520 --> 01:52.960]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again, and once your privacy
[01:52.960 --> 01:56.920]  is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.920 --> 02:01.920]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.920 --> 02:04.680]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:14.480 --> 02:20.440]  After a tropical storm Irene swept through Maryland, mold spread like wildfire through
[02:20.440 --> 02:22.440]  the dorms of St. Mary's College.
[02:22.440 --> 02:26.240]  250 students had to be relocated, but where?
[02:26.240 --> 02:27.240]  Hotels?
[02:27.240 --> 02:31.680]  Well, that cost a fortune, 20,000 a day, so St. Mary's President came up with a way
[02:31.680 --> 02:32.680]  with an idea.
[02:32.680 --> 02:35.040]  How about putting the students up on a cruise ship?
[02:35.040 --> 02:39.960]  It just so happened, the Sea Voyager cruise ship was on its way down from Maine, with
[02:39.960 --> 02:44.320]  the owner's mind docking in Maryland and turning their vessel into a floating dorm?
[02:44.320 --> 02:45.320]  No problem.
[02:45.320 --> 02:50.480]  So now the students are enjoying fine on board dining, sweet looking sweets, and a breathtaking
[02:50.480 --> 02:52.000]  waterfront view.
[02:52.000 --> 02:53.480]  Talk about smooth sailing.
[02:53.480 --> 03:17.560]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:23.480 --> 03:48.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:48.480 --> 04:13.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[04:13.480 --> 04:38.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[04:38.480 --> 05:04.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[05:04.480 --> 05:30.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[05:30.480 --> 05:57.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[05:57.480 --> 06:22.480]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[06:22.480 --> 06:37.480]  Last night when we last spoke, I was talking about my trip to Galveston, and I don't remember
[06:37.480 --> 06:41.480]  where it goes, the part I didn't get to.
[06:41.480 --> 06:47.480]  We were talking about mostly strategies, it's what I was doing with strategy.
[06:47.480 --> 06:56.480]  We had someone arrested, taken straight to jail, even though it was during the day.
[06:56.480 --> 07:04.480]  So it was during the day when they could have easily taken her to the magistrate, but they didn't.
[07:04.480 --> 07:17.480]  And they charged her with resisting arrest or with touching a public official without injury.
[07:17.480 --> 07:27.480]  If you touch a public official in any way, they can arrest you and prosecute you.
[07:27.480 --> 07:34.480]  It may not be right, it may not be fair, but unfortunately, that's how it is.
[07:34.480 --> 07:38.480]  And we're trying to deal with those kinds of things.
[07:38.480 --> 07:44.480]  We haven't got them dealt with yet, but this is part of the process of dealing with it.
[07:44.480 --> 07:55.480]  They arrested her and accused her of touching the official, accusing her of kicking the official with no injury.
[07:55.480 --> 08:06.480]  Then they took her to jail, threw her in jail for a while, never did bring her before a magistrate, and released her own bond.
[08:06.480 --> 08:12.480]  Problem, you just simply cannot do that.
[08:12.480 --> 08:14.480]  Well, at least under law you can't.
[08:14.480 --> 08:24.480]  Right now, essentially, police can do anything they want to, especially in Galveston County.
[08:24.480 --> 08:33.480]  So if you're considering going down to Galveston for a fun weekend, I would suggest you go somewhere else.
[08:33.480 --> 08:41.480]  Because these people are going to resort down on the beach in Galveston, minding your own business.
[08:41.480 --> 08:50.480]  And the way it appears, the police drink at this place after they get off work.
[08:50.480 --> 08:59.480]  And from what I gathered is a good chance that the constable who made the arrest was there drinking,
[08:59.480 --> 09:08.480]  and arrested this woman's boyfriend for public intoxication when he wasn't the least that drunk.
[09:08.480 --> 09:13.480]  And then when she asked him why they were arresting him, they arrested her.
[09:13.480 --> 09:21.480]  And they told them the reason they approached him in the first place was they had a theft report.
[09:21.480 --> 09:34.480]  Well, I'll be doing some information requests for those theft reports for the report the police officers filed in the investigation of the theft.
[09:34.480 --> 09:46.480]  And I can pretty well assure you that when I make the request under open records, they're going to tell me that there is no such report.
[09:46.480 --> 09:52.480]  That would indicate that the officers are lying like dogs.
[09:52.480 --> 09:58.480]  And unfortunately, that's a pretty common practice of police officers.
[09:58.480 --> 10:03.480]  I think they give them courses in testalign.
[10:03.480 --> 10:09.480]  And that's the reason they didn't want to take her to a magistrate.
[10:09.480 --> 10:18.480]  Police don't want to take you to a magistrate because they want time to sit down and get their stories straight.
[10:18.480 --> 10:26.480]  Now, the police at this point could care less whether the story they're telling is true or not.
[10:26.480 --> 10:30.480]  Just so they're all sort of telling the same story.
[10:30.480 --> 10:45.480]  The last thing they want to do is one of these bogus arrests and then have to go straight to the magistrate and explain themselves because they're all not going to tell the same lie.
[10:45.480 --> 10:54.480]  They got to get together and make up their lie and get it all down pat before they go to any judge or prosecutor or anyone else.
[10:54.480 --> 10:59.480]  That's why the police want to take you to jail instead of taking you to a magistrate.
[10:59.480 --> 11:02.480]  Well, they didn't do that.
[11:02.480 --> 11:07.480]  And apparently, she was not compliant enough.
[11:07.480 --> 11:19.480]  So they came out with the racial slurs and insults and every sort of filthy insult they could think of, I guess, to try to provoke her.
[11:19.480 --> 11:24.480]  Or to humiliate her into submission when that didn't work.
[11:24.480 --> 11:28.480]  They punished her by charging you with a cell phone.
[11:28.480 --> 11:32.480]  Well, probably that.
[11:32.480 --> 11:41.480]  First off, the facts as they stated them did not amount to a felony.
[11:41.480 --> 11:55.480]  And even if they did, the police cannot release someone on a felony unless a magistrate has set bond.
[11:55.480 --> 12:00.480]  Now, there are circumstances where a police officer can release someone on bond.
[12:00.480 --> 12:04.480]  That's of the 1720, 2122, 1720.
[12:04.480 --> 12:10.480]  If it's certain misdemeanors, the legislature has authorized a classic misdemeanor.
[12:10.480 --> 12:20.480]  The policeman actually class A, I think A or B, the officer can release you when you're on reconnaissance and that's a form of bond.
[12:20.480 --> 12:33.480]  And if magistrates have preset a bond for certain offenses that are misdemeanors, then the officer can release you on those.
[12:33.480 --> 12:36.480]  On that, that would be 1721.
[12:36.480 --> 12:50.480]  In 1722, the officer can release you after you post bond for a felony, but that bond has to be set by a magistrate.
[12:50.480 --> 12:52.480]  I'm sorry, let me back up a little bit.
[12:52.480 --> 13:01.480]  There's the matter of class A and class B and C, they can release you on PRBOT.
[13:01.480 --> 13:15.480]  On a class A, they can release you on a bond, whatever the officer deems appropriate, if the court is not in session.
[13:15.480 --> 13:23.480]  But that's no longer effective because we don't have judges writing circuit anymore.
[13:23.480 --> 13:29.480]  We have enough people that we have enough judges that the court's in session all the time.
[13:29.480 --> 13:35.480]  It used to be that the court was in session when the judge was in town holding court.
[13:35.480 --> 13:40.480]  And then when he went to the next town, the court was out of session.
[13:40.480 --> 13:45.480]  Well, now it needs to never out of session, so let us apply.
[13:45.480 --> 13:52.480]  And on felonies, the police officer can release someone, but only after a magistrate has set bond.
[13:52.480 --> 13:58.480]  Well, they released her at no magistrate that ever set bond.
[13:58.480 --> 14:05.480]  And what I suspect was is the prosecutor found out they pulled all this crap on them and did all this stupid stuff.
[14:05.480 --> 14:10.480]  So he went ahead and got an indictment.
[14:10.480 --> 14:16.480]  Now, we have some questions about how he got the indictment.
[14:16.480 --> 14:24.480]  Because the facts absolutely did not support the indictment.
[14:24.480 --> 14:32.480]  But the prosecutor can do that because the only facts we have are secondary.
[14:32.480 --> 14:41.480]  We have facts from a secondary governmental agency that purportedly got these facts from the district attorney.
[14:41.480 --> 14:48.480]  The woman was a professional and they got these facts so they could revoke her professional license.
[14:48.480 --> 14:55.480]  They revoked her license because she was charged, not convicted, and they weren't allowed to do that, but they didn't care that you did anyway.
[14:55.480 --> 14:57.480]  They're trying to punish her.
[14:57.480 --> 15:01.480]  And this is what they'll do to beat you into submission.
[15:01.480 --> 15:08.480]  This is how they get a 99.6% conviction rate.
[15:08.480 --> 15:15.480]  They will put you in a position such that you have no reasonable alternative to taking the...
[15:15.480 --> 15:25.480]  the perfectly reasonable deal when they offer it, which is my redundancy, but I couldn't come up with another word there.
[15:25.480 --> 15:30.480]  But if you don't take the deal, then they turn the heat up.
[15:30.480 --> 15:44.480]  We have a constitutional right to a speedy trial, but the legislature seemingly deliberately wrote the speedy trial statute so that it would be unconstitutional.
[15:44.480 --> 15:55.480]  The courts overruled it once because it dictated a judicial determination.
[15:55.480 --> 16:03.480]  Instead of suppressions not brought to trial with a certain amount of time, the court will enter a certain...
[16:03.480 --> 16:15.480]  enter a order of dismissal, and the court said they can't do that. They can't direct the judicial decision.
[16:15.480 --> 16:25.480]  What it should have said is if they're not brought to court within a certain time, the person has a right to dismissal.
[16:25.480 --> 16:31.480]  But the legislature very deliberately did not do that.
[16:31.480 --> 16:37.480]  And I'll explain why when we get back on the other side.
[16:37.480 --> 16:45.480]  It's all about the money being betrayed by everybody, including the legislature.
[16:45.480 --> 16:50.480]  They may be the worst slain scumbags of them all. I'm on a rant today.
[16:50.480 --> 16:55.480]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Ben Stevens and Craig with the radio. Our call lines are open.
[16:55.480 --> 17:01.480]  6-5-1-2-6-4-6-1984.
[17:01.480 --> 17:02.480]  America is in trouble.
[17:02.480 --> 17:04.480]  Washington is a disgrace.
[17:04.480 --> 17:07.480]  Government has become too big. It's over-taxing, over-spending.
[17:07.480 --> 17:09.480]  We need to change direction.
[17:09.480 --> 17:10.480]  We really need change.
[17:10.480 --> 17:13.480]  We can't afford to make the same mistakes we've made in the past.
[17:13.480 --> 17:15.480]  Mitt Romney's reputation as a flip-flopper.
[17:15.480 --> 17:18.480]  He went the other way when he got paid to go the other way.
[17:18.480 --> 17:20.480]  There is need for economic stimulus.
[17:20.480 --> 17:22.480]  It's about serial hypocrisy.
[17:22.480 --> 17:24.480]  This election is about trust.
[17:24.480 --> 17:26.480]  A true, consistent candidate.
[17:26.480 --> 17:27.480]  And that's Dr. Ron Paul.
[17:27.480 --> 17:30.480]  Ron Paul has been so consistent from the very beginning.
[17:30.480 --> 17:32.480]  He seems like a more honest candidate.
[17:32.480 --> 17:35.480]  He tells the truth about what he believes, whether you like it or not.
[17:35.480 --> 17:37.480]  He's never once voted for a tax increase.
[17:37.480 --> 17:39.480]  Never once voted for an unbalanced budget.
[17:39.480 --> 17:42.480]  Ron Paul's plan is bold. He's got five departments.
[17:42.480 --> 17:43.480]  It's what we need.
[17:43.480 --> 17:47.480]  When he says he's going to cut a trillion dollars in the first year, I believe it.
[17:47.480 --> 17:52.480]  If you don't like how things are going and you're tired of politicians, he's something different.
[17:52.480 --> 17:53.480]  Ron Paul.
[17:53.480 --> 17:54.480]  Ron Paul.
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[17:55.480 --> 17:57.480]  Ron Paul is the one we've been looking for.
[17:57.480 --> 18:26.480]  I'm Ron Paul and I approve this message.
[18:27.480 --> 18:49.480]  Thank you.
[18:49.480 --> 19:15.480]  Thank you.
[19:15.480 --> 19:41.480]  Thank you.
[19:41.480 --> 19:50.480]  And we were talking about what the police and prosecutors do in order to ensure that they
[19:50.480 --> 19:55.480]  maintain this 99.6% condition rate.
[19:55.480 --> 20:04.600]  And the really frustrating part about this is, although at the moment I'm picking on
[20:04.600 --> 20:13.960]  Galveston County from dealing with the public officials in Galveston County, they dealt
[20:13.960 --> 20:20.480]  with me in a far more professional manner than I am accustomed to, frankly.
[20:20.480 --> 20:28.040]  So they handled themselves very well and it's frustrating to see people who are trying
[20:28.040 --> 20:37.240]  to be true professionals screwing up this battery, but they are.
[20:37.240 --> 20:44.720]  And frankly, this prosecutor took over the prosecutor's office and pretty much did things
[20:44.720 --> 20:47.960]  the way the guy before him did things.
[20:47.960 --> 20:54.360]  And as I understand during the campaign, this prosecutor talked about what a co-op scoundrel
[20:54.360 --> 20:57.040]  this other prosecutor was.
[20:57.040 --> 21:04.960]  Well, it may be that the current prosecutor is acting in the best of faith, but the best
[21:04.960 --> 21:11.960]  of faith doesn't get it if the best of faith isn't in violation of law.
[21:11.960 --> 21:22.800]  And if the structure, the laws, the way they are, it gives the prosecutor an opportunity
[21:22.800 --> 21:27.920]  here concerning speedy trial.
[21:27.920 --> 21:31.320]  We have a constitutional right that has not been overturned.
[21:31.320 --> 21:41.320]  The only thing that was overturned was the stipulation of a prescribed judicial decision.
[21:41.320 --> 21:50.400]  It would have been very simple for the legislature to fix that, but they chose not to.
[21:50.400 --> 21:56.840]  Generally, when they pass a statute that fails by wording, they come back and fix the wording,
[21:56.840 --> 21:59.080]  but they didn't.
[21:59.080 --> 22:04.240]  So begs the question, why did they not fix their poor wording?
[22:04.240 --> 22:10.040]  They didn't fix the poor wording because it would have cost them a tremendous amount of
[22:10.040 --> 22:12.200]  money.
[22:12.200 --> 22:18.200]  The criminal justice system is a very large source of income.
[22:18.200 --> 22:23.600]  You know, they talk about how full the jails are, well, actually, the jail population's
[22:23.600 --> 22:29.480]  have been dropping because they're putting everybody on probation.
[22:29.480 --> 22:32.680]  That's where they want you to go on probation.
[22:32.680 --> 22:42.120]  I live in a relatively small county, Northwest of Fort Worth, and a few years ago I went through
[22:42.120 --> 22:43.560]  the court records.
[22:43.560 --> 22:49.600]  But in six months, there were 1,653 indictments brought.
[22:49.600 --> 22:53.360]  I went through every one of them.
[22:53.360 --> 23:00.480]  One person of 1,653 pled not guilty.
[23:00.480 --> 23:06.080]  He went to trial, was found guilty, a trial had it overturned on appeal.
[23:06.080 --> 23:11.400]  So the only trial they held, they couldn't get it right.
[23:11.400 --> 23:16.080]  And there were six fines assessed.
[23:16.080 --> 23:19.720]  So that was intriguing.
[23:19.720 --> 23:22.320]  Everybody's guilty.
[23:22.320 --> 23:23.760]  Six fines.
[23:23.760 --> 23:27.440]  What is going on?
[23:27.440 --> 23:35.680]  So I started following the money trail, and it turns out that if you are assessed to fine,
[23:35.680 --> 23:41.680]  I think 60% goes to the general fund and 40% stays in the county.
[23:41.680 --> 23:48.520]  However, if you put it on probation, all of it stays in the county.
[23:48.520 --> 23:54.920]  So what it appeared they were doing is they charged the person all they thought he could
[23:54.920 --> 23:55.920]  bear.
[23:55.920 --> 24:02.160]  And if it couldn't extract all of the money the person could bear through probation fees,
[24:02.160 --> 24:06.040]  then they charged him a fine.
[24:06.040 --> 24:08.720]  But only after they got all they could for the county.
[24:08.720 --> 24:13.160]  This is all about dollar flow.
[24:13.160 --> 24:19.600]  It's all about using the criminal justice system as an unauthorized tax.
[24:19.600 --> 24:27.040]  The traffic which it does is far worse because it doesn't apply to us at all.
[24:27.040 --> 24:28.560]  So it's all a money scam.
[24:28.560 --> 24:33.880]  It's all a scam to extract more operating capital.
[24:33.880 --> 24:40.240]  But they can pretty well use as they see fit there with these kinds of fees that are not
[24:40.240 --> 24:46.440]  restricted in the way they use the same way they are with the general fund taxes.
[24:46.440 --> 24:52.480]  So anyway, what they do is if you don't take the first thing they'll do is they'll your
[24:52.480 --> 24:58.400]  attorney, whether you pay your attorney or get court appointing counsel, will come to
[24:58.400 --> 25:01.920]  you and tell you you don't have a chance.
[25:01.920 --> 25:05.360]  This is what they're going to do, blah, blah, blah.
[25:05.360 --> 25:09.080]  You need to take this deal.
[25:09.080 --> 25:12.320]  Now your lawyer needs to get you to take that deal.
[25:12.320 --> 25:17.960]  It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're guilty or innocent.
[25:17.960 --> 25:24.800]  And before we get too PO'd at the lawyer, what the heck do you expect from him?
[25:24.800 --> 25:31.640]  Most of the lawyers on the attorney's wheels are young lawyers just getting started out.
[25:31.640 --> 25:39.120]  The ones that aren't young lawyers just getting started out are generally the losers who can't
[25:39.120 --> 25:44.440]  make it out there in the real world so they come down and get court appointing counsel
[25:44.440 --> 25:47.960]  positions so they can make a few bucks.
[25:47.960 --> 25:51.240]  The good lawyers go out and make the real money.
[25:51.240 --> 25:59.120]  So you get the brand new lawyers and you get the guys who are the bottom of the heap.
[25:59.120 --> 26:06.280]  And the last thing they want to do is get the prosecutor and the judge upset at them.
[26:06.280 --> 26:12.760]  They might take them off the attorney's wheel and then they don't get appointed and the
[26:12.760 --> 26:18.080]  jury use this money to pay their office expenses.
[26:18.080 --> 26:24.600]  And if you don't think the judges will punish these lawyers, I want to sue Ditten County
[26:24.600 --> 26:26.960]  for $11 million.
[26:26.960 --> 26:37.880]  I sued 24 public officials and every accusation that I made, each of the ones accused would
[26:37.880 --> 26:42.040]  readily admit to the accusation.
[26:42.040 --> 26:46.880]  Because they accused them of falling politics and demonstrated how the policy was in violation
[26:46.880 --> 26:49.200]  of standing law.
[26:49.200 --> 26:55.840]  It was not my intent to harm anyone, it was my intent to change how they were doing things.
[26:55.840 --> 27:03.600]  When I talked to 60 lawyers, the last one was the previous district attorney for Ditten
[27:03.600 --> 27:07.280]  County in New York, Jerry Cobb.
[27:07.280 --> 27:11.360]  I called him and told him my name is Randall Kelton and I have sued Ditten County and I
[27:11.360 --> 27:12.840]  need someone to represent my case.
[27:12.840 --> 27:15.680]  Oh, Ms. Kelton, I know all about your suit.
[27:15.680 --> 27:20.760]  I can't represent you, you've made allegations against judges in there and I have to represent
[27:20.760 --> 27:23.480]  clients in this county.
[27:23.480 --> 27:25.680]  I said, what's the matter, Jerry?
[27:25.680 --> 27:32.000]  You're afraid those, like those judges will screw your next client to get back at you?
[27:32.000 --> 27:35.480]  And he said the same thing to every other attorney said.
[27:35.480 --> 27:40.320]  You darn right they will.
[27:40.320 --> 27:48.320]  Now I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that these lawyers absolutely believe
[27:48.320 --> 27:50.320]  it's true.
[27:50.320 --> 27:57.200]  And do you really think that a lawyer is going to risk his professional career in order to
[27:57.200 --> 28:01.960]  ensure that all your rights are protected?
[28:01.960 --> 28:07.280]  Not going to happen not in this lifetime.
[28:07.280 --> 28:14.360]  Your lawyer and the prosecutor and the judge are all on the same team and that entire team
[28:14.360 --> 28:21.280]  is dedicated to getting you to keeping them out of court clearing their dockets so the
[28:21.280 --> 28:25.360]  prosecutor can get his caseload cleared.
[28:25.360 --> 28:30.160]  The lawyer can collect his money without doing any work and the judge can go play golf on
[28:30.160 --> 28:31.160]  Friday.
[28:31.160 --> 28:39.800]  And if the lawyer comes in and screws that up, they'll make sure he doesn't get any more.
[28:39.800 --> 28:45.360]  They'll only give the work to the ones who will do what they want them to.
[28:45.360 --> 28:53.600]  If you don't listen to your lawyer and you don't take the deal, then they have his hand
[28:53.600 --> 29:03.920]  like that, the reason we have a speedy trial right is because when you have a threat hanging
[29:03.920 --> 29:14.240]  over your head, it harms you, it continuously harms you and it subjects you to ever-increasing
[29:14.240 --> 29:15.240]  stress.
[29:15.240 --> 29:23.400]  And what the courts will do is they'll force you to come into court time and time and time
[29:23.400 --> 29:24.400]  again.
[29:24.400 --> 29:31.480]  Force you to lose, take off work, try to explain to your boss if you can even get a job, if
[29:31.480 --> 29:36.720]  it's ready to get over, cost you the time and money, and you don't take the deal, and
[29:36.720 --> 29:42.400]  just have you come back again until you finally give up and take the deal.
[29:42.400 --> 29:46.800]  And the threats consistently increase and we'll come back, I'll talk about.
[29:46.800 --> 29:50.760]  We'll take Kathy first and then I'll talk about some of the other tools that are against
[29:50.760 --> 29:51.760]  you.
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[31:05.920 --> 31:09.680]  so easy, and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[31:09.680 --> 31:12.920]  Oh, well I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then.
[31:12.920 --> 31:13.920]  Brave New Books?
[31:13.920 --> 31:18.520]  Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex
[31:18.520 --> 31:21.080]  Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[31:21.080 --> 31:24.520]  They even stock Interfood, Burkey products, and Calvin Soap.
[31:24.520 --> 31:27.400]  There's no way a place like that exists.
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[31:32.840 --> 31:36.960]  Aw, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[31:36.960 --> 31:41.880]  Actually they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
[31:41.880 --> 31:44.200]  facility just behind the bookstore.
[31:44.200 --> 31:47.840]  It does exist, but when are they open?
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[31:59.320 --> 32:11.720]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm gonna solve them to the government then.
[32:11.720 --> 32:36.160]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me prosecute them wicked leader, you see, the
[32:36.160 --> 32:43.160]  mother of the wrong liar, damn teller, damn I'm a liar, and I tell six stories, mean I
[32:43.160 --> 32:48.920]  believe me, so what, damn teller, 3% of America vote for motion, so how do they get the president?
[32:48.920 --> 32:56.280]  Okay, we're back, Randy Kelk, Debussy, Eddie Craig, we're on radio, our four hour info
[32:56.280 --> 33:02.520]  marathon, and I've got a whole lot more to talk about, I could probably do all four hours
[33:02.520 --> 33:08.320]  and maybe two on this subject once I get started, I can get pretty round up.
[33:08.320 --> 33:13.160]  We have a couple of callers, I'm gonna take a couple calls first, and then if we run out
[33:13.160 --> 33:19.880]  of callers I'll go back to this, it's a wrap that I need to get out of my system.
[33:19.880 --> 33:24.440]  Okay, we have Kathy in Texas, hello sweet Kathy.
[33:24.440 --> 33:28.920]  Hello, Randy, I know we talked earlier and I told you I wasn't gonna call tonight, but
[33:28.920 --> 33:32.720]  I guess I lied.
[33:32.720 --> 33:41.400]  I'm used to women lying to me, I know, but about Galveston and all that, I did, I came
[33:41.400 --> 33:46.600]  up with a plan as we were talking, and I forgot to tell you one thing earlier, and that is
[33:46.600 --> 33:54.120]  that this weekend I heard that there's a little phrase that's going around in New Braunfels,
[33:54.120 --> 33:58.840]  because if you're not familiar with New Braunfels, they've passed a lot of new laws about
[33:58.840 --> 34:03.880]  what you can and can't take on the river, and they're really, you can hardly take anything
[34:03.880 --> 34:09.520]  to the river, just take yourself, and so they have a little saying that they've been passing
[34:09.520 --> 34:17.000]  around and they say, come on vacation, leave on probation, and I think that maybe we should
[34:17.000 --> 34:28.560]  have a project to get some billboards, maybe on I-45 headed into Galveston, maybe on I-35
[34:28.560 --> 34:40.040]  headed into New Braunfels, I think that would be a good idea, we could rent some trucks
[34:40.040 --> 34:46.560]  and put signs on them and drive them up and down the boulevard along the beach in Galveston.
[34:46.560 --> 34:50.680]  Yeah, those magnetic signs, then if somebody comes along, you just flip it off and nobody
[34:50.680 --> 34:51.680]  sees.
[34:51.680 --> 34:53.680]  Nope, leave it right there.
[34:53.680 --> 34:59.320]  Okay, the other plan I was having, I was thinking, I'll print the bumper stickers, if you can
[34:59.320 --> 35:06.440]  figure out how we can get them on to all the cop cars in Galveston without getting caught.
[35:06.440 --> 35:11.840]  We might, if we snuckered them just right, we might talk them into putting them on there,
[35:11.840 --> 35:16.960]  we could spin a story and caught them into thinking it meant something else.
[35:16.960 --> 35:21.120]  Well, that's something for you to work on, so that was just the thought that you were
[35:21.120 --> 35:24.800]  talking and I thought, well, maybe we can do something really productive and at least
[35:24.800 --> 35:28.200]  call it what it is.
[35:28.200 --> 35:31.120]  That is a good idea, I will start using that.
[35:31.120 --> 35:32.120]  Okay.
[35:32.120 --> 35:33.120]  Thank you.
[35:33.120 --> 35:37.400]  Come on, come on vacation, leave on probation, that's beautiful.
[35:37.400 --> 35:42.320]  Well, that's what it seems like, so see you later.
[35:42.320 --> 35:43.320]  Thank you.
[35:43.320 --> 35:44.320]  Okay, thank you very much.
[35:44.320 --> 35:47.920]  Okay, now we're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[35:47.920 --> 35:50.600]  Mark, what do you have for us tonight?
[35:50.600 --> 35:56.040]  Hi, Randy, that's almost right, it's Washington, the state of Washington out here where Seattle
[35:56.040 --> 35:57.040]  is.
[35:57.040 --> 35:58.040]  Oh, 50th anniversary.
[35:58.040 --> 36:08.360]  No, no, no, you speak with a strange foreign accent, you are obviously not from Texas.
[36:08.360 --> 36:11.320]  I'm not from Texas.
[36:11.320 --> 36:12.320]  You're a foreigner.
[36:12.320 --> 36:13.320]  Not a foreigner.
[36:13.320 --> 36:22.560]  I'm pretty close though, way up here in the northwest of the country, I know that you
[36:22.560 --> 36:28.120]  guys everywhere else seem to think we're awful far away and we're not, it's a wonderful
[36:28.120 --> 36:32.000]  place, particularly this time of year and coming up the next couple of months.
[36:32.000 --> 36:37.400]  Well, I had an accident, a traffic accident, May 11th of 2011, so just a little over a
[36:37.400 --> 36:44.160]  year ago and I had full comprehensive coverage and collision and all that with my insurance
[36:44.160 --> 36:50.880]  company and I won't go through the details of the accident, I don't think it's appropriate,
[36:50.880 --> 36:54.920]  you can ask me if you feel you need to know them, but the bottom line is that no one was
[36:54.920 --> 36:55.920]  cited.
[36:55.920 --> 37:01.960]  I wasn't drinking, there wasn't any negligence driving, the policemen showed up, investigated
[37:01.960 --> 37:08.320]  the damage, we exchanged insurance numbers and we drove away.
[37:08.320 --> 37:11.800]  Both of our licenses were good, we're both in compliance with the law, we just had this
[37:11.800 --> 37:12.800]  accident.
[37:12.800 --> 37:21.600]  Now, the accident was very, very minor in terms of the impact and nobody ended up getting
[37:21.600 --> 37:22.600]  stopped.
[37:22.600 --> 37:28.000]  It's kind of a, anyways, I need to not go through so much detail.
[37:28.000 --> 37:34.160]  So my insurance company and his insurance company talked it over and they decided to
[37:34.160 --> 37:39.160]  go ahead and have my insurance company pay his insurance company.
[37:39.160 --> 37:43.600]  So they wanted a certain amount, he wanted a certain amount of money and my insurance
[37:43.600 --> 37:48.840]  company countered with less than half of the amount he wanted.
[37:48.840 --> 37:50.840]  What's that standard?
[37:50.840 --> 37:51.840]  Go ahead.
[37:51.840 --> 38:02.520]  That's kind of standard, you always ask for more than you want and the other side will
[38:02.520 --> 38:06.600]  offer less than they were willing to pay, it's kind of standard procedure.
[38:06.600 --> 38:18.400]  Well now my policy limits my coverage to $25,000 and this guy 10 days after the accident went
[38:18.400 --> 38:23.200]  in and saw a color factor.
[38:23.200 --> 38:26.080]  I asked him twice after the accident, are you okay?
[38:26.080 --> 38:27.080]  Are you okay?
[38:27.080 --> 38:32.120]  I'm sure he was, he's a young guy in good shape and there's only one person in the car.
[38:32.120 --> 38:36.840]  And he repeatedly told me that he was just fine, don't worry about it.
[38:36.840 --> 38:45.920]  So anyway, now he is, because my insurance company came back with about half of the money
[38:45.920 --> 38:53.160]  that he wanted, he went out and got one of these attorneys to essentially start a lawsuit
[38:53.160 --> 39:02.400]  against me and in the lawsuit there are a threat of undetermined medical damages.
[39:02.400 --> 39:10.120]  I just got a letter from my attorneys who are essentially employees of my insurance company
[39:10.120 --> 39:20.360]  who are acting on my behalf in this suit and it's a claim number and it's in a superior
[39:20.360 --> 39:27.120]  court and it's going to mandatory arbitration.
[39:27.120 --> 39:35.200]  And the jurisdictional limit to mandatory arbitration is $50,000 which is $25,000 more
[39:35.200 --> 39:43.200]  than my maximum of $25,000 per person and there's one person in the car, but a total
[39:43.200 --> 39:45.440]  maximum of $50,000 per incident.
[39:45.440 --> 39:51.800]  Okay, do you have reason to believe that this guy is making this stuff up?
[39:51.800 --> 39:57.640]  Absolutely, I've got pictures damaged in my truck and it's just really minor honest
[39:57.640 --> 40:01.240]  agotion and I could go through the details.
[40:01.240 --> 40:07.640]  What I suggest is you file a countersuit against him for fraud.
[40:07.640 --> 40:12.760]  Okay, that's pretty serious.
[40:12.760 --> 40:20.240]  He wants to play, let him jump into, introduce him to the deep end of the pool.
[40:20.240 --> 40:25.600]  Bar grieve his attorneys, accuse him of insurance fraud and failure to speak to the candidate
[40:25.600 --> 40:34.560]  in the court, countersuit him and throw his attorneys in to mix just for the heck of it.
[40:34.560 --> 40:44.880]  Since they're proposing a frivolous lawsuit that they know is false, countersuit him.
[40:44.880 --> 40:47.720]  Raise the stakes a bit.
[40:47.720 --> 40:54.320]  Okay, so hire an attorney and get...
[40:54.320 --> 41:02.040]  No, no, you've got two attorneys, direct them to file it and when they don't, bar grieve
[41:02.040 --> 41:11.000]  them and then you make up the suit and say, here, file this and when they don't, then
[41:11.000 --> 41:16.560]  you file one, countersuit them.
[41:16.560 --> 41:23.080]  You could name your lawsuit, your insurance company.
[41:23.080 --> 41:31.920]  You could name their insurance company for failing to adequately compensate the victim
[41:31.920 --> 41:34.800]  and causing this lawsuit.
[41:34.800 --> 41:42.120]  One last detail regarding this, the attorneys that are representing me and they're really
[41:42.120 --> 41:47.360]  employed by my insurance company.
[41:47.360 --> 41:58.640]  They told me that originally that this person's initial claim was $15,000, which my coverage
[41:58.640 --> 42:08.520]  would have paid for and they refused to meet that $15,000 and in so doing, they're exposing
[42:08.520 --> 42:21.200]  me to $25,000 of risk that in addition to my coverage limit, since they can award $50,000
[42:21.200 --> 42:22.200]  per incident.
[42:22.200 --> 42:28.840]  So it'll cost them $10,000 extra, plus it'll cost you $25,000.
[42:28.840 --> 42:37.440]  So countersuit against the plaintiff for filing a frivolous lawsuit and cross-complain against
[42:37.440 --> 42:42.720]  the insurance company for failing to provide you with proper coverage.
[42:42.720 --> 42:47.840]  Does that sound like fun?
[42:47.840 --> 42:52.240]  Well, it sounds like it's going to get some people pretty upset.
[42:52.240 --> 42:54.040]  I hope so.
[42:54.040 --> 42:55.040]  Okay.
[42:55.040 --> 43:03.040]  I guess I'll let it go at that and I'll, any words of caution, should I learn, should
[43:03.040 --> 43:05.360]  I learn to do the paperwork on my own?
[43:05.360 --> 43:07.360]  Should I get an attorney to support?
[43:07.360 --> 43:09.200]  Let's go with the insurance.
[43:09.200 --> 43:11.200]  All the information you need is on the internet.
[43:11.200 --> 43:16.160]  Just go out there and search for insurance fraud claims.
[43:16.160 --> 43:23.640]  Look for suits on insurance fraud and you'll find hundreds of them and they'll show you
[43:23.640 --> 43:28.320]  what the causes of action are, how to claim them.
[43:28.320 --> 43:31.280]  Everything you need to be in there is how I build all my suits.
[43:31.280 --> 43:35.360]  I don't go out and figure out all this stuff myself.
[43:35.360 --> 43:38.160]  That's what God made you in there for.
[43:38.160 --> 43:42.160]  Now, you mentioned, sir, who could fool you, you mentioned, you mentioned briefly, I should
[43:42.160 --> 43:43.160]  prove it.
[43:43.160 --> 43:44.160]  Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[43:44.160 --> 43:45.160]  We're about to go to break.
[43:45.160 --> 43:50.200]  This is Randy Calton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig with Love Radio, hang on, Mark, we'll
[43:50.200 --> 43:55.360]  be right back on the other side and Walt, I see you there, we'll pick you up, let me
[43:55.360 --> 43:56.360]  get back.
[43:56.360 --> 43:58.360]  Call it number 512-646.
[43:58.360 --> 44:06.200]  The Oakland City bombing, top 10 reasons to question the official story.
[44:06.200 --> 44:10.000]  Reason number two, why was the ATF AWOL?
[44:10.000 --> 44:14.600]  Paramedic Tiffany Bible, who was on the scene within five minutes, has stated in an affidavit
[44:14.600 --> 44:18.800]  that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms told her that they were not in
[44:18.800 --> 44:19.800]  the office that morning.
[44:19.800 --> 44:24.800]  D&T Catherine Mallet also overheard one agent say to another, close, is that why we got
[44:24.800 --> 44:27.600]  the page to not come in today, end quote.
[44:27.600 --> 44:32.320]  Drew Shaw, as interviewed on KFOR TV, was also told by ATF agents that they had been
[44:32.320 --> 44:34.720]  paged to not come in to work.
[44:34.720 --> 44:39.280]  The ATF initially denied these claims, and now variously claim that one of their agents
[44:39.280 --> 44:43.080]  was in a free falling elevator which has been disproven, or that they had been in an all-night
[44:43.080 --> 44:45.600]  stakeout, or that they had been in a golf tournament.
[44:45.600 --> 44:51.120]  As they try to sort out their lies, all we want to know is, did the ATF receive a warning,
[44:51.120 --> 44:55.160]  and if so, why did they not pass it on to others in the mobile?
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[46:23.160 --> 46:36.560]  Okay, go back, bring it up, and have a seat, and say, Craig, with the radio, and you're
[46:36.560 --> 46:38.560]  talking to Mark in Washington.
[46:38.560 --> 46:41.560]  Okay, Mark, you're talking to me now.
[46:41.560 --> 46:49.880]  Yeah, Randy, I'm sorry for taking a little longer than to your break, but I just want
[46:49.880 --> 46:55.560]  to go through this real briefly.
[46:55.560 --> 47:03.240]  Counterclaim against the plaintiff for insurance fraud, cross-claim against my insurance company
[47:03.240 --> 47:09.400]  for improper insurance coverage, file a box grievance against both the plaintiff's attorney
[47:09.400 --> 47:12.240]  and my attorney's for proper representation.
[47:12.240 --> 47:13.240]  Exactly.
[47:13.240 --> 47:24.240]  Their attorneys for filing a frivolous suit, your attorney for failing to adequately protect
[47:24.240 --> 47:30.240]  you for what do you call it, now practice.
[47:30.240 --> 47:40.760]  Okay, Randy, I'll bet you don't have too many people do this, follow your advice very
[47:40.760 --> 47:45.160]  explicitly, but I'll tell you, my brother loves your show, and he turned him into a
[47:45.160 --> 47:48.440]  rabid fan, and he's pulled me into it a little bit.
[47:48.440 --> 47:52.000]  You've got to call the Rule of Law radio show.
[47:52.000 --> 48:00.200]  I heard some things you said about grand juries and the power of the grand jury to right some
[48:00.200 --> 48:02.080]  wrongs in this civilization.
[48:02.080 --> 48:05.880]  I have to admit that it's very compelling.
[48:05.880 --> 48:09.040]  Thanks for doing what you do.
[48:09.040 --> 48:16.520]  Okay, thank you, Mark, okay, now we're going to go to Walt in New York.
[48:16.520 --> 48:19.040]  Walt, what do you have for us today?
[48:19.040 --> 48:20.040]  Hi, Randy.
[48:20.040 --> 48:21.040]  Hi, Eddie.
[48:21.040 --> 48:24.360]  Randy, the first question I have for you is, I know you had an anniversary a little
[48:24.360 --> 48:26.960]  while ago, a five-year anniversary with the show.
[48:26.960 --> 48:32.880]  Do you remember the time when you were on Alex Jones, because that's the first time I heard
[48:32.880 --> 48:35.320]  about Rule of Law when you advertised the show.
[48:35.320 --> 48:39.720]  Do you remember, was that 2011 or 2010?
[48:39.720 --> 48:41.720]  I think it was 2010.
[48:41.720 --> 48:46.320]  Do you remember the first time I was on Alex Jones' show?
[48:46.320 --> 48:49.320]  Yeah, do you remember the month it was?
[48:49.320 --> 48:51.320]  No, I don't.
[48:51.320 --> 48:52.320]  Okay.
[48:52.320 --> 48:59.320]  But you should be able to go to infowars.com and just do a search for my name and find it.
[48:59.320 --> 49:00.320]  Okay.
[49:00.320 --> 49:03.320]  All right, I've got some questions for both of you.
[49:03.320 --> 49:05.320]  I may.
[49:05.320 --> 49:07.320]  The first one is this.
[49:07.320 --> 49:11.320]  If you want to take action against some police officers for wrong action, they're committed.
[49:11.320 --> 49:16.320]  You want to get a copy of the 911 report or police report?
[49:16.320 --> 49:17.320]  How do you do that?
[49:17.320 --> 49:20.320]  That's my first question.
[49:20.320 --> 49:22.320]  Open records request.
[49:22.320 --> 49:25.320]  Now, is that a certified letter?
[49:25.320 --> 49:27.320]  Always certified letter.
[49:27.320 --> 49:32.320]  If you don't send a certified letter, they'll throw it in trash and swore they never got it.
[49:32.320 --> 49:37.320]  The best way to do it is send one regular mail, one certified.
[49:37.320 --> 49:38.320]  Okay.
[49:38.320 --> 49:48.320]  The courts may say it's possible for the post office to goof up once in a great, great while,
[49:48.320 --> 49:53.320]  but they're not going to goof up twice in a row.
[49:53.320 --> 49:57.320]  So if you say you didn't get one, well, it's possible.
[49:57.320 --> 50:03.320]  But if you say you didn't get two, the courts are going to say no way.
[50:03.320 --> 50:10.320]  So if you will notice when lawyers and the courts send you something certified, you'll
[50:10.320 --> 50:13.320]  almost always get one regular mail as well.
[50:13.320 --> 50:14.320]  Okay.
[50:14.320 --> 50:17.320]  Now, you said that's called open records law?
[50:17.320 --> 50:18.320]  Yeah.
[50:18.320 --> 50:21.320]  It'll be open government or open records.
[50:21.320 --> 50:24.320]  Just do a search for New York open records.
[50:24.320 --> 50:25.320]  Okay.
[50:25.320 --> 50:26.320]  Next question.
[50:26.320 --> 50:28.320]  It's involving the same incident.
[50:28.320 --> 50:32.320]  The police department was involved and the sheriff's department.
[50:32.320 --> 50:37.320]  Now, the sheriff's department, I could do the same thing because I don't know the name
[50:37.320 --> 50:41.320]  of the sheriff that accompanied the police officer.
[50:41.320 --> 50:45.320]  I know the police officer's name, but here's the problem I want to ask you about Randy and Eddie.
[50:45.320 --> 50:51.320]  When I called the sheriff's department to get the name of that officer, the lady representative,
[50:51.320 --> 50:56.320]  she was copying officer two, she gave me a hard time, she knew who I was.
[50:56.320 --> 50:58.320]  She goes, I'm not going to give you the name of the officer.
[50:58.320 --> 51:00.320]  You're going to have to get it from the police officer.
[51:00.320 --> 51:02.320]  And I said, can I have your name?
[51:02.320 --> 51:06.320]  She goes, no, I'm not going to give you my name because you wouldn't give that officer
[51:06.320 --> 51:07.320]  your name, which is a lie.
[51:07.320 --> 51:10.320]  So that lady on the phone was harassing me.
[51:10.320 --> 51:13.320]  So when I do the open records with that, is that also...
[51:13.320 --> 51:15.320]  Did you have it recorded?
[51:15.320 --> 51:17.320]  Yes, I did.
[51:17.320 --> 51:18.320]  Good man.
[51:18.320 --> 51:21.320]  Did you have it recorded on two recorders?
[51:21.320 --> 51:23.320]  What's that?
[51:23.320 --> 51:25.320]  Did you have it recorded on two recorders?
[51:25.320 --> 51:27.320]  No.
[51:27.320 --> 51:30.320]  Okay, that'll do for some of the thoughts.
[51:30.320 --> 51:32.320]  You were the one that got him on two ones.
[51:32.320 --> 51:37.320]  No, that lady doesn't she have to identify herself to me as a public official?
[51:37.320 --> 51:38.320]  That officer...
[51:38.320 --> 51:39.320]  I would think so.
[51:39.320 --> 51:44.320]  I would file a professional conduct complaint against her.
[51:44.320 --> 51:53.320]  Actually, I filed a professional conduct complaint against the sheriff for inadequate training.
[51:53.320 --> 52:02.320]  But I don't know of anything that stipulates that they have to identify themselves.
[52:02.320 --> 52:09.320]  I did have an experience once at the FBI in Philadelphia when I asked the agent behind
[52:09.320 --> 52:13.320]  the bulletproof glass what his name was.
[52:13.320 --> 52:20.320]  And he kind of ducked his head and said, well, we're not allowed to identify ourselves.
[52:20.320 --> 52:22.320]  And Debra was there with me that time.
[52:22.320 --> 52:25.320]  And I said, say what?
[52:25.320 --> 52:28.320]  We have secret police now?
[52:28.320 --> 52:30.320]  So what do I call you?
[52:30.320 --> 52:32.320]  He had on the scarce blue tie.
[52:32.320 --> 52:36.320]  Secret agent blue tie?
[52:36.320 --> 52:39.320]  Debra almost fell out in the floor.
[52:39.320 --> 52:42.320]  The guy was mortified.
[52:42.320 --> 52:49.320]  But I don't know that there was a statutory duty.
[52:49.320 --> 52:59.320]  So if you have that recording, get it to us and we'll play it on the air and ask anybody
[52:59.320 --> 53:03.320]  if they recognize this person's name.
[53:03.320 --> 53:09.320]  And you can tell the police tell the sheriff that you don't know who this was.
[53:09.320 --> 53:14.320]  But if he'll go to the archives and rule our radio, he can find it in the archives
[53:14.320 --> 53:17.320]  because it played it on the air.
[53:17.320 --> 53:20.320]  He could make it the bumper music.
[53:20.320 --> 53:21.320]  Okay.
[53:21.320 --> 53:27.320]  Now, in regards to this open records request, what happens to the police department doesn't
[53:27.320 --> 53:32.320]  respond to my certified letter and us or denies there was ever a police call.
[53:32.320 --> 53:34.320]  They said they never came.
[53:34.320 --> 53:36.320]  What happens is they do that.
[53:36.320 --> 53:46.320]  As I read the open records act in Texas, the very last thing it says is that the open records
[53:46.320 --> 53:51.320]  act that a violation of the act is a class A misdemeanor.
[53:51.320 --> 53:56.320]  That means when all of these guys would say, well, if they didn't give you your records,
[53:56.320 --> 53:58.320]  you'll have to file a suit.
[53:58.320 --> 54:00.320]  No, you don't.
[54:00.320 --> 54:08.320]  And it should be because you almost, I know you have in New York a statute that reflects
[54:08.320 --> 54:11.320]  18 U.S. Code 242.
[54:11.320 --> 54:16.320]  If a public official fails to perform a duty, he's required to perform it in the process,
[54:16.320 --> 54:21.320]  denies you in the full and free access to or have a right.
[54:21.320 --> 54:23.320]  What do they call that?
[54:23.320 --> 54:24.320]  Okay.
[54:24.320 --> 54:25.320]  I got Randy.
[54:25.320 --> 54:26.320]  Come on, Walt.
[54:26.320 --> 54:28.320]  You know what they call that?
[54:28.320 --> 54:31.320]  I'm listening.
[54:31.320 --> 54:33.320]  No, you were supposed to tell me.
[54:33.320 --> 54:36.320]  You should know what they call that.
[54:36.320 --> 54:41.320]  Official oppression or official misconduct, depending on the state.
[54:41.320 --> 54:44.320]  And it's always the class A misdemeanor.
[54:44.320 --> 54:46.320]  It's always a next thing to a felony.
[54:46.320 --> 54:47.320]  All right.
[54:47.320 --> 54:51.320]  I got just two quick, two more short questions for you.
[54:51.320 --> 54:55.320]  The police officer was there about March 1st.
[54:55.320 --> 54:58.320]  It was unlawful when he did it.
[54:58.320 --> 54:59.320]  He had no probable cause.
[54:59.320 --> 55:00.320]  He had no warrant.
[55:00.320 --> 55:03.320]  Just because I asked him why he was there, he got mad at me.
[55:03.320 --> 55:05.320]  So, but anyway, what happens now?
[55:05.320 --> 55:08.320]  He told me I was under arrest when he ran up the stairs.
[55:08.320 --> 55:13.320]  And then he changed his mind after I said, I'll give you my name, but it's under protest.
[55:13.320 --> 55:17.320]  And then he said, well, I said, what authorization do you have to get my name?
[55:17.320 --> 55:19.320]  He says administrative procedure, which I know is baloney.
[55:19.320 --> 55:24.320]  But anyway, what happens if I do this official request, open records request, Randy?
[55:24.320 --> 55:33.320]  And they come to my house and do a retroactive arrest two months later.
[55:33.320 --> 55:34.320]  Wait a minute.
[55:34.320 --> 55:37.320]  You say, what if they retaliate against you?
[55:37.320 --> 55:42.320]  Yeah, because he told me that day when he came to the house, you're under arrest because I wouldn't give my name.
[55:42.320 --> 55:44.320]  He ran up the stairs in my face.
[55:44.320 --> 55:47.320]  And I said, I'll give you my name under protest.
[55:47.320 --> 55:52.320]  And then he, after I asked him, you know, what's the probable cause and we got an argument.
[55:52.320 --> 55:59.320]  He finally ran down the stairs when I told my former wife to tell him to leave because he told me the only reason he was there.
[55:59.320 --> 56:04.320]  He had authority to ask me my ID because of administrative procedure.
[56:04.320 --> 56:06.320]  And I says, you have no probable cause.
[56:06.320 --> 56:09.320]  And I said, I told Jeannie, I said, tell him to leave.
[56:09.320 --> 56:10.320]  He ran down the stairs.
[56:10.320 --> 56:14.320]  Soon as that happened because he wouldn't tell me what the, what the administrative procedure law was.
[56:14.320 --> 56:16.320]  He couldn't recite it.
[56:16.320 --> 56:18.320]  So I said, there's not one.
[56:18.320 --> 56:27.320]  What I, all I'm concerned about Randy is when I do all this stuff next, the next step, I'm, I'm concerned they may try to do come to my house to arrest me.
[56:27.320 --> 56:36.320]  Then petitioned the district court for a, I'm dumb dumb dumb.
[56:36.320 --> 56:39.320]  Eddie, what's the right matter with a prohibition?
[56:39.320 --> 56:41.320]  What would you ask the court for?
[56:41.320 --> 56:43.320]  Oh, a restraining order.
[56:43.320 --> 56:49.320]  Restraining order, restraining the jurisdiction from retaliation.
[56:49.320 --> 56:56.320]  Now, you're not going to get that, but you want it in the record.
[56:56.320 --> 57:08.320]  This allows you to put it in the record that you have reason to believe based on the police's actions, that if you attempt to adjudicate your rights, that they will retaliate against you.
[57:08.320 --> 57:11.320]  Get it in the record.
[57:11.320 --> 57:15.320]  Okay. Last question is something is a little different.
[57:15.320 --> 57:18.320]  There's a, it's another case I got.
[57:18.320 --> 57:20.320]  You think you know how these things are.
[57:20.320 --> 57:27.320]  This hospital records department, I called them and I asked them for a copy of a police report that I showed a doctor.
[57:27.320 --> 57:29.320]  They went and put it somewhere.
[57:29.320 --> 57:33.320]  I believe it's in my records, but so I sent an official request for a copy of it.
[57:33.320 --> 57:36.320]  I want to make sure that it was in the records.
[57:36.320 --> 57:37.320]  I want proof of that.
[57:37.320 --> 57:38.320]  They had it.
[57:38.320 --> 57:42.320]  And now I, so I never got an answer for about two weeks.
[57:42.320 --> 57:47.320]  So I called the records department and the nice lady there says, we don't keep those records.
[57:47.320 --> 57:48.320]  You're going to have to call our lawyers.
[57:48.320 --> 57:50.320]  I said, were you going to send me a letter to that effect?
[57:50.320 --> 57:51.320]  She goes, yes.
[57:51.320 --> 57:53.320]  I never got the letter.
[57:53.320 --> 57:54.320]  So here's my question.
[57:54.320 --> 57:56.320]  What's not okay.
[57:56.320 --> 57:57.320]  Hold on.
[57:57.320 --> 58:06.320]  We're about to go to break and I'll answer your question when we come back and it's going to go to discovery to perpetuate testimony.
[58:06.320 --> 58:08.320]  This is Randy.
[58:08.320 --> 58:11.320]  We're going to the top of the hour break.
[58:11.320 --> 58:12.320]  Hang on.
[58:12.320 --> 58:14.320]  We'll pick you up on the other side.
[58:14.320 --> 58:15.320]  Mike, I see you there.
[58:15.320 --> 58:18.320]  We'll get to you soon as we get down with Mike.
[58:18.320 --> 58:22.320]  Call in number 5126461984.
[58:22.320 --> 58:23.320]  Call in early.
[58:23.320 --> 58:24.320]  Get on the board.
[58:24.320 --> 58:27.320]  It's only stacks up toward the end.
[58:27.320 --> 58:28.320]  Okay.
[58:28.320 --> 58:50.320]  We will be right back on the other side.
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[01:03:51.320 --> 01:04:02.320]  Most every state has a provision for this. Walk. If you have any kind of issue in the works, then you can move for discovery.
[01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:16.320]  If you don't have issue in the works and you anticipate civil litigation, most every state has a provision for discovery to perpetuate testimony.
[01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:32.320]  You can do depositions, you can request documentation, and since there is no case, let me ask, is there a case active now?
[01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:42.320]  No. The only question I had was, next Tuesday I'm going to this hospital for an eye exam, but I want to go to the records department and just ask that lady.
[01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:47.320]  I didn't get your letter saying you don't have the police report, and I'm afraid because she's a nice lady,
[01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:51.320]  but there's an enemy that worked there that would want to get me in trouble, and all I wanted to ask you was.
[01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:58.320]  Okay, okay, then let me tell you how to do this. Don't go to the lady.
[01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:15.320]  Go to the department and just, or I suggest you mail the department a request for discovery to perpetuate testimony, and in that, ask them for what you want,
[01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:24.320]  and if they have an objection, ask them to give you a written objection so you can petition the court for pre-litigation discovery.
[01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.320]  Yeah. Well, can I just say this? That will get their attention.
[01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:37.320]  Okay, what's already said was, they don't have this police report, maybe the law department that was there at the hospital,
[01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:44.320]  but they were going to send me a letter to that effect, and I didn't get it, so I'm going there Tuesday anyway, and I just want to ask you this.
[01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:50.320]  I'm going to just go in there and say, I didn't get the letter, are you going to send it? I'm afraid they may call the police on me.
[01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.320]  Somebody entered it after me. That's why I'm telling you, don't do that.
[01:05:55.320 --> 01:06:04.320]  Okay. Okay, this is a shift in the way you're thinking. It's what I'm trying to get.
[01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:16.320]  In normal civil interactions, it is appropriate for us to negotiate and deal with one another.
[01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:27.320]  If I have a problem with you, I ain't come to you and look you right down and tell me what the problem is, but you're not in one of those situations.
[01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:41.320]  You're in a situation where others are governed by law, and you're in a situation where others have apparent power and authority and they will use it to their benefit and to your detriment.
[01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:47.320]  So it's not always a good idea to confront people directly.
[01:06:47.320 --> 01:07:00.320]  If you've asked her to do something and she said she would do it and she didn't, if you go back and ask her again, that leads to argumentation.
[01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:11.320]  I suggest you do not go back to her that you send a request to the department stating that you requested this.
[01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:16.320]  You were told that you would be receiving this. Somebody probably told her not to respond.
[01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:30.320]  So then ask them, tell them that you're sending this letter as an attempt to perpetuate testimony, as pre-dedication discovery.
[01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:46.320]  If they intend not to respond, please answer to that effect. The failure to answer on this date, you'll take as a refusal and you'll petition the court for pre-dedication discovery.
[01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:54.320]  They'll give that to their lawyers, and most likely the lawyers will just send it to a big deal.
[01:07:54.320 --> 01:08:01.320]  But it keeps you from getting in that situation where they can cause security.
[01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.320]  Can I ask you one more quick one?
[01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:05.320]  Yep.
[01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:18.320]  As far as federal court claims cases or the federal section 42-1983 civil rights violation cases, do you know what the statute of limitations is on those two?
[01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:21.320]  I think it's three years.
[01:08:21.320 --> 01:08:24.320]  Okay.
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:30.320]  Don't quote me on it, but I believe it's three years. I know it's longer than your standard two, your statute of limitations.
[01:08:30.320 --> 01:08:35.320]  Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Randy and Eddie. Have a nice weekend.
[01:08:35.320 --> 01:08:44.320]  You are welcome. Okay, now we're going to go to Mike in North Carolina. Hello, Mr. Mike.
[01:08:44.320 --> 01:08:47.320]  Hello, Mr. Randy. How are you?
[01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:52.320]  I am just fine, and you had...
[01:08:52.320 --> 01:08:56.320]  Does that mean I'm an hour in the future?
[01:08:56.320 --> 01:08:59.320]  You are an hour in my future.
[01:08:59.320 --> 01:09:01.320]  Okay.
[01:09:01.320 --> 01:09:09.320]  But you don't have to worry. I used to live in Tennessee, so I speak your strange foreign dialect.
[01:09:09.320 --> 01:09:20.320]  Well, you know what? That's excellent. I'm glad to hear that. I had to learn to speak that way because my mother is from New York City.
[01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:23.320]  She was from Hell's Kitchen.
[01:09:23.320 --> 01:09:25.320]  Oh, okay.
[01:09:25.320 --> 01:09:32.320]  The reason I called, I kind of hit the perfect storm situation here while trying to kind of channel everything.
[01:09:32.320 --> 01:09:38.320]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. You are fading in and out. Are you on a headset?
[01:09:38.320 --> 01:09:45.320]  No, I've got no. I'm in the mountains. I've got my cell phone. Can you hear me better now?
[01:09:45.320 --> 01:09:47.320]  I can hear you better now.
[01:09:47.320 --> 01:09:50.320]  Okay. Sorry about that.
[01:09:50.320 --> 01:10:04.320]  I've kind of hit this perfect storm. I'll start by saying that my mother had brain surgery last September and was in recovery,
[01:10:04.320 --> 01:10:10.320]  getting rehab, you know, hand-eye coordination, that kind of stuff.
[01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:24.320]  And she, the morning she was to come home from the facility, she was found dead with no pulse or breathing for they estimated at least 15 minutes.
[01:10:24.320 --> 01:10:34.320]  And you don't need to say, I'm sorry for your loss. I know where my mother is and I'm glad for her because she doesn't have to look back.
[01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:42.320]  But the answer I always get from everybody is, sorry for your loss, but old people die.
[01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:47.320]  Man, don't say that. I'm old.
[01:10:47.320 --> 01:10:58.320]  Well, me too, to some degree. But that's the answer you get. And what's happened, of course, I'm sure you're familiar with the cap now that's put on malpractice
[01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:07.320]  and been on all of those things. You got $750,000 maximum. And the attorneys aren't interested in taking those cases.
[01:11:07.320 --> 01:11:18.320]  And, you know, my brother and I, what happened was we were a little bit suspicious because when they took her to the hospital,
[01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:25.320]  they continued giving her CPR for another 50 minutes after she was already dead.
[01:11:25.320 --> 01:11:35.320]  And they took her to the emergency room and then they pronounced her there. And then the doctor wrote them kind of a conspicuous cause of death.
[01:11:35.320 --> 01:11:46.320]  And so my brother and I, we were unable to get the records from the facility because he had to be designated as the executor and we didn't have that yet.
[01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:56.320]  And so we went to the hospital and requested that they do a, she had an eight inch scar on the right side of her head.
[01:11:56.320 --> 01:12:07.320]  We requested that they do a head x-ray and a blood test because we felt like she might have fallen and we found out later, of course, that she had.
[01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:18.320]  But anyway, they refused, unless we paid them $4,000, they wouldn't do any kind of fall toxic work whatsoever.
[01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:34.320]  And so we went to every authority that we could possibly go to and everyone said no. Well, then we got the papers, finally, the medical records from the facility.
[01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:44.320]  Okay, now, wait a minute. Kind of to get to the point, this is taking a long time through the story. We don't need all the details. Where are we going?
[01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:53.320]  Well, all right, in the first place, we began asking questions about the records because they were just all messed up.
[01:12:53.320 --> 01:13:00.320]  They had her in the wrong room and we didn't know if she had been given the wrong medication. She had fallen.
[01:13:00.320 --> 01:13:06.320]  We have a signed deposition by our roommate and the records are just a mess.
[01:13:06.320 --> 01:13:20.320]  So we called the local authorities that investigate nursing homes. I don't know if it's the same in every state, but it's the Department of BHHS in the state of North Carolina.
[01:13:20.320 --> 01:13:30.320]  And so we filed a complaint and, of course, they went and we got back a form letter saying that no deficiency found.
[01:13:30.320 --> 01:13:38.320]  And so we went back to, we went to them and asked them, you know, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:13:38.320 --> 01:13:43.320]  We can't spend all night going through all these details.
[01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:44.320]  Okay, all right.
[01:13:44.320 --> 01:13:47.320]  Where are you going so we know what to look for?
[01:13:47.320 --> 01:13:49.320]  Well, North Carolina.
[01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:52.320]  Are you going to a malpractice seat or a room for best?
[01:13:52.320 --> 01:13:56.320]  No, no, that's the thing. Everyone thinks that that's what we are.
[01:13:56.320 --> 01:14:02.320]  That's what I have no clue where you're going. So I don't know what to pay attention to.
[01:14:02.320 --> 01:14:05.320]  I'm sorry. I apologize. It's frustrating.
[01:14:05.320 --> 01:14:11.320]  We've gathered three, four thousand pages worth of information because we began.
[01:14:11.320 --> 01:14:13.320]  This is okay. Hold on. Hold on.
[01:14:13.320 --> 01:14:20.320]  This is real common because this is a very emotional issue for you.
[01:14:20.320 --> 01:14:31.320]  You're going from emotional issue to emotional issue to emotional issue. And what makes it hard for us is you know how all these pieces fit together.
[01:14:31.320 --> 01:14:32.320]  Right.
[01:14:32.320 --> 01:14:35.320]  And you know where you're going, but we don't have a clue.
[01:14:35.320 --> 01:14:36.320]  Okay.
[01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:41.320]  And you've given us all this information and we don't know what to pay attention to.
[01:14:41.320 --> 01:14:46.320]  So kind of tell us where you're going and then tell us how you get there.
[01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:59.320]  Well, what we've found is that we're certainly discovered Medicare fraud, not just on a small level of just in this one nursing home.
[01:14:59.320 --> 01:15:07.320]  But we discovered of course that, you know, Shell Corporation and so on just got these people on hundreds of places.
[01:15:07.320 --> 01:15:14.320]  And of course anybody that knows anything can tell you that they all paid the Medicare bills.
[01:15:14.320 --> 01:15:18.320]  And of course we found that with our mother's records.
[01:15:18.320 --> 01:15:30.320]  And we know there's Medicare fraud, but there's also this major corruption thing with this DSS thing.
[01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:32.320]  And we don't know where to go.
[01:15:32.320 --> 01:15:34.320]  Hold on. Hold on.
[01:15:34.320 --> 01:15:36.320]  Hold on.
[01:15:36.320 --> 01:15:46.320]  Do you have direct evidence that there's corruption or is that your impression from the way they have dealt with the issue?
[01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:49.320]  Well, that's a good question.
[01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:57.320]  Through looking and searching, we found a man's name that owned one of the facilities.
[01:15:57.320 --> 01:16:03.320]  His name was on the tax deed, but then we found out he owns several hundred homes.
[01:16:03.320 --> 01:16:13.320]  Well, then we found out that he had been appointed by the governor of North Carolina to be on the medical commission for DHHS.
[01:16:13.320 --> 01:16:21.320]  Then we found out that he was also on the board of trustees for BB&T Bank.
[01:16:21.320 --> 01:16:30.320]  And then we found the minutes from the meeting where they were dealing with $50 million allocating funds.
[01:16:30.320 --> 01:16:38.320]  Where one of the members present during that meeting was actually the marketing director for BB&T.
[01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:40.320]  And I know you've got reasons to tell him.
[01:16:40.320 --> 01:16:42.320]  Okay, okay. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, we've got to go to break.
[01:16:42.320 --> 01:16:45.320]  Hang on. This is getting interesting.
[01:16:45.320 --> 01:16:47.320]  Now we're getting to some good stuff.
[01:16:47.320 --> 01:16:50.320]  That's his Randy Kelton, Deb Stephen, J.D. Craig, we've got a video.
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[01:19:22.320 --> 01:19:35.320]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kalkin, W.D.G.G., Gregor Moreno, and we're talking with Mike from North Carolina.
[01:19:35.320 --> 01:19:39.320]  Mike, now we'll get to some good stuff.
[01:19:39.320 --> 01:19:54.320]  So, it appears as though you have reason to believe that one of the members of the board of this agency is in a position such that he should necessarily be disqualified.
[01:19:54.320 --> 01:20:01.320]  He's making, in a position to make rulings that personally affect his income. Is that correct?
[01:20:01.320 --> 01:20:05.320]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:20:05.320 --> 01:20:14.320]  Yes. Okay. What are the laws concerning this issue? Have you researched that?
[01:20:14.320 --> 01:20:31.320]  Well, in the first place, I went and just looked up the bylaws and it automatically, of course, anything that anybody would imagine that says that anybody who stands to gain financially is not to sit on the commission.
[01:20:31.320 --> 01:20:47.320]  And I've seen where he has had the certificate of need to move beds from an old facility to a new facility, that certificate waived.
[01:20:47.320 --> 01:20:58.320]  And, you know, it's kind of like the grandfather clause, you know, if you've got a bunch of old beds in one place and you want to move them to a brand new place, it really shouldn't happen.
[01:20:58.320 --> 01:21:02.320]  So, there's, I mean, like I said, it's hard to focus.
[01:21:02.320 --> 01:21:06.320]  No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, you're kind of wandering on me.
[01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:07.320]  That's what I'm talking about.
[01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:11.320]  There are a lot of issues. Let me make a suggestion.
[01:21:11.320 --> 01:21:12.320]  Okay.
[01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:17.320]  Start out with a timeline.
[01:21:17.320 --> 01:21:24.320]  Go back and walk through all of the things you found out, what you found out and when.
[01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:37.320]  You'd have all that in your head. But when you try to talk to somebody else, whether it's me or a regulatory agency, a police department or whatever, they don't have all that in their head.
[01:21:37.320 --> 01:21:38.320]  Think.
[01:21:38.320 --> 01:21:39.320]  Right.
[01:21:39.320 --> 01:21:41.320]  Referential index.
[01:21:41.320 --> 01:21:53.320]  If you're talking to me and you say something, make a statement, and I don't have something to link that statement to, I've lost.
[01:21:53.320 --> 01:22:00.320]  I'm thinking, what did I miss? You're moving ahead and I'm back here trying to figure out what I missed. You've lost me completely.
[01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:01.320]  Okay.
[01:22:01.320 --> 01:22:03.320]  A timeline.
[01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:04.320]  All right.
[01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:06.320]  Just as we'll begin.
[01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:10.320]  Rather than going through the whole surgery stuff.
[01:22:10.320 --> 01:22:21.320]  When we started looking at the one facility where my mother died, we began to notice that there were several doctors that had actually bought in.
[01:22:21.320 --> 01:22:26.320]  The doctor that signed her best certificate was one of those owners.
[01:22:26.320 --> 01:22:33.320]  We looked a little further and we found out that there were hundreds of guys.
[01:22:33.320 --> 01:22:44.320]  So we followed this thing from November the 3rd and we're still following in no matter how many times you punch in something, you come up with another link.
[01:22:44.320 --> 01:22:55.320]  And what's happened is that there's a huge bunch of places that are basically controlled by a very small amount of people.
[01:22:55.320 --> 01:23:00.320]  One, the main, I guess the main focus is the NCDHHS.
[01:23:00.320 --> 01:23:11.320]  If you go to their website and look at all of the regular homes in the state of North Carolina, all the licensed homes in the state of North Carolina,
[01:23:11.320 --> 01:23:20.320]  you'll find a complaint after complaint or even just research on these places, research patients.
[01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:23.320]  And there'll be 30 and 40 complaints.
[01:23:23.320 --> 01:23:35.320]  There'll be people that have died because of infections or people who have had to have limbs amputate because they had broken legs or something or the left to lie there.
[01:23:35.320 --> 01:23:36.320]  Okay.
[01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:37.320]  Okay.
[01:23:37.320 --> 01:23:38.320]  Wait a minute.
[01:23:38.320 --> 01:23:39.320]  Wait a minute.
[01:23:39.320 --> 01:23:40.320]  Sure.
[01:23:40.320 --> 01:23:44.320]  Accusation to accusation to accusation to accusation.
[01:23:44.320 --> 01:23:47.320]  What does all this mean?
[01:23:47.320 --> 01:24:01.320]  Well, I guess the main thing is that we are convinced that we've found that there's an incredible huge amount of Medicare for all.
[01:24:01.320 --> 01:24:02.320]  Okay.
[01:24:02.320 --> 01:24:16.320]  Let's just back up in order to get a complaint of this nature in a structure that is workable and usable.
[01:24:16.320 --> 01:24:19.320]  You have to first know what the code is.
[01:24:19.320 --> 01:24:22.320]  What are the requirements?
[01:24:22.320 --> 01:24:26.320]  What can they do legally and what can they not do legally?
[01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:35.320]  Because if you're talking about things they can do legally and it looks bad, that's not enough.
[01:24:35.320 --> 01:24:37.320]  You need to know what the code is.
[01:24:37.320 --> 01:24:48.320]  When you talk about these things they're doing, you'll notice if you listen to our program, when we talk about things someone's doing this wrong,
[01:24:48.320 --> 01:24:58.320]  we say they're doing this thing here and it violates this statute or this rule or this regulation.
[01:24:58.320 --> 01:25:06.320]  If you don't have it in that format, then all you have is vague accusations.
[01:25:06.320 --> 01:25:10.320]  It sounds like you have enough information.
[01:25:10.320 --> 01:25:17.320]  Now you need to go back and see how you can string all of this together.
[01:25:17.320 --> 01:25:21.320]  Have you ever read a good mystery novel?
[01:25:21.320 --> 01:25:23.320]  Yes.
[01:25:23.320 --> 01:25:25.320]  Yes, I have.
[01:25:25.320 --> 01:25:27.320]  Right one.
[01:25:27.320 --> 01:25:33.320]  Well, I do have some things that I actually do have some things.
[01:25:33.320 --> 01:25:50.320]  We have found just through our mother's billing that they double bill for medications, they bill for things that they don't supply like oxygen and things of that nature.
[01:25:50.320 --> 01:26:00.320]  Basically the nurses and people are told in these places and the bills.
[01:26:00.320 --> 01:26:03.320]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:26:03.320 --> 01:26:05.320]  Okay, hold on.
[01:26:05.320 --> 01:26:09.320]  Now we're talking Kwitam.
[01:26:09.320 --> 01:26:21.320]  There are provisions in law to give people reasons to correct these wrongs and Kwitam is one of them.
[01:26:21.320 --> 01:26:38.320]  If you have knowledge that the government is being defrauded of funds, then you can bring suit in your personal capacity to recover those funds.
[01:26:38.320 --> 01:26:46.320]  And if you do recover funds, you get to keep 25 to 35% of what you recover.
[01:26:46.320 --> 01:26:50.320]  Once you file an action of this nature,
[01:26:50.320 --> 01:26:56.320]  the government, if they want to, they can come in and take over the action.
[01:26:56.320 --> 01:27:03.320]  In which case, whatever they recover, you will receive 15%.
[01:27:03.320 --> 01:27:05.320]  Okay.
[01:27:05.320 --> 01:27:13.320]  So there's good incentive to do this, but I would suggest you exercise.
[01:27:13.320 --> 01:27:22.320]  Hold on, you can't talk while I'm talking. The system will push you down underneath me, so nobody here.
[01:27:22.320 --> 01:27:26.320]  When you start this, you're talking about big money.
[01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:36.320]  If you have one or two individuals that own a lot of these, we're talking really big money.
[01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:43.320]  So you need to understand you are swimming in the deep end of the pool here.
[01:27:43.320 --> 01:27:47.320]  I would suggest extreme caution.
[01:27:47.320 --> 01:27:58.320]  And as much as I like this on the radio, I would suggest that you never do this again until you have something that protects you.
[01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:07.320]  All of your research in place in a quite damn suit filed.
[01:28:07.320 --> 01:28:08.320]  A lot of money.
[01:28:08.320 --> 01:28:19.320]  People, if they are criminals already and you have reason to believe they're criminals, you know, I talk about going after public officials.
[01:28:19.320 --> 01:28:28.320]  But when I do that, I try to make sure that I have all my protections in place.
[01:28:28.320 --> 01:28:37.320]  And you're making me a bit nervous because this is getting really serious.
[01:28:37.320 --> 01:28:42.320]  There is a lot of pressure on Medicare fraud right now.
[01:28:42.320 --> 01:28:54.320]  And this is re-fighting some people, so I would suggest that you get your concerns and accusations documented.
[01:28:54.320 --> 01:28:56.320]  That you did.
[01:28:56.320 --> 01:28:57.320]  Go ahead.
[01:28:57.320 --> 01:29:08.320]  What we have done, and I hope this isn't of the sake, but we approached originally an FBI agent.
[01:29:08.320 --> 01:29:13.320]  And he was very kind, and he took something like you.
[01:29:13.320 --> 01:29:17.320]  I overwhelmed him a bit, so he gave us three hours of his time.
[01:29:17.320 --> 01:29:28.320]  We took all the paperwork that we already had into him, and he sat with us, and he took the paperwork and then has maintained contact.
[01:29:28.320 --> 01:29:34.320]  Meanwhile, I found this passport.
[01:29:34.320 --> 01:29:44.320]  Hold on for a bit of a break, but I am going to suggest you ask him for complete copies of that paperwork back.
[01:29:44.320 --> 01:29:47.320]  If he doesn't give it to you, you've got a problem.
[01:29:47.320 --> 01:29:50.320]  I certainly would not trust the FBI agent.
[01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:53.320]  I'll explain why when we come back on the other side.
[01:29:53.320 --> 01:29:55.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Deb. Stephen's Intergrate.
[01:29:55.320 --> 01:29:57.320]  We'll look at our radio.
[01:29:57.320 --> 01:30:00.320]  We'll be right back.
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[01:32:36.320 --> 01:32:40.320]  Randy Kelton, Dave Steeves and Craig with the radio.
[01:32:40.320 --> 01:32:44.320]  And we're talking to Mike in North Carolina.
[01:32:44.320 --> 01:32:52.320]  And frankly, Mike, it worries me that you went into an FBI agent.
[01:32:52.320 --> 01:32:56.320]  I understand that it's pitiful to say that.
[01:32:56.320 --> 01:33:01.320]  And I hate that I would have to say something like that.
[01:33:01.320 --> 01:33:11.320]  But it has been my experience that the FBI is nothing more than a political arm of the president.
[01:33:11.320 --> 01:33:16.320]  And the president is very political.
[01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:21.320]  At this point, the FBI reminds me of the brown shirts.
[01:33:21.320 --> 01:33:26.320]  Do you remember those from Nazi Germany?
[01:33:26.320 --> 01:33:31.320]  They are the stooges for the political powers that be.
[01:33:31.320 --> 01:33:41.320]  I certainly would not trust them, especially since they've reached the point where they're refusing to identify themselves.
[01:33:41.320 --> 01:33:46.320]  Now they're turning into our own secret police.
[01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:53.320]  They will swallow you in a heartbeat if it's politically expedient.
[01:33:53.320 --> 01:34:02.320]  And right now it sounds like your adversary is very politically connected.
[01:34:02.320 --> 01:34:05.320]  So it's swimming in deep water.
[01:34:05.320 --> 01:34:17.320]  We've also spoken with the Office of Inspector General and the Medicaid fraud unit.
[01:34:17.320 --> 01:34:28.320]  These are the ones that make up the HEAP task force that is supposedly aggressively pursuing and prosecuting Medicare fraud.
[01:34:28.320 --> 01:34:32.320]  Now that's the right place.
[01:34:32.320 --> 01:34:42.320]  Good, good. Now you have someone in a position that is politically expedient for them to pursue this particular issue.
[01:34:42.320 --> 01:34:45.320]  But even then, I wouldn't trust them.
[01:34:45.320 --> 01:34:47.320]  Right.
[01:34:47.320 --> 01:34:49.320]  You're talking big money here.
[01:34:49.320 --> 01:34:51.320]  Well, yeah. And we know that.
[01:34:51.320 --> 01:34:58.320]  And we do have concerns, not for ourselves as much as our families.
[01:34:58.320 --> 01:35:04.320]  But it's like, where do you go? We can't afford attorneys.
[01:35:04.320 --> 01:35:06.320]  We're just kind of fumbling in the dark.
[01:35:06.320 --> 01:35:13.320]  And had I not heard about you through a good friend, I wouldn't have even known you existed.
[01:35:13.320 --> 01:35:23.320]  But it's terrifying when you think that you find something like this and you know you found enough to know you're right.
[01:35:23.320 --> 01:35:27.320]  But it's like everybody turns their heads.
[01:35:27.320 --> 01:35:43.320]  Well, one of the things you have to do is box this into a volume that someone can take it and not have to do any work.
[01:35:43.320 --> 01:35:52.320]  I know that doesn't sound right, but in the real world we live in, everybody's busy.
[01:35:52.320 --> 01:36:00.320]  And you need to look around and see what political pressures exist out there.
[01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:06.320]  Who are this guy's competitors?
[01:36:06.320 --> 01:36:12.320]  Does he have other large companies that are his competitors?
[01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:15.320]  Are there other similar industries?
[01:36:15.320 --> 01:36:22.320]  Do you need someone else with political clout who can kind of act as a buffer?
[01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:35.320]  What particular political entities would benefit from taking down someone of this nature?
[01:36:35.320 --> 01:36:43.320]  I know we're brought up to think that all you have to do is be in the right.
[01:36:43.320 --> 01:36:48.320]  Unfortunately, in the real world, you and I live in, it doesn't work that way.
[01:36:48.320 --> 01:36:55.320]  We not only have to be in the right, we have to really be smart and really be careful.
[01:36:55.320 --> 01:37:03.320]  Then make sure we have all of our homework done before we jump into the deep end of the pool.
[01:37:03.320 --> 01:37:06.320]  Do you play chess?
[01:37:06.320 --> 01:37:09.320]  No, I don't.
[01:37:09.320 --> 01:37:14.320]  You need to learn to play chess. It will help you immensely.
[01:37:14.320 --> 01:37:17.320]  What we're doing here is not checkers.
[01:37:17.320 --> 01:37:20.320]  Where I make a move, then you make a move.
[01:37:20.320 --> 01:37:25.320]  I was in court with a friend of mine, Ken Magnuson.
[01:37:25.320 --> 01:37:29.320]  And the judge ruled against him on a motion he filed.
[01:37:29.320 --> 01:37:31.320]  And he pulled out a piece of paper and said,
[01:37:31.320 --> 01:37:40.320]  Your Honor, I'd like to present this to the court. And the other attorney asked to see it and he handed it to him.
[01:37:40.320 --> 01:37:44.320]  The attorney looked at it and got kind of a strange look on his face.
[01:37:44.320 --> 01:37:49.320]  He gave it back to Ken and Ken gave it to the judge.
[01:37:49.320 --> 01:37:58.320]  And what it was was a motion for reconsideration of the determination he just made.
[01:37:58.320 --> 01:38:06.320]  The judge read it and he said, well, Mr. Magnuson, it seems you were a step ahead of the court.
[01:38:06.320 --> 01:38:10.320]  And Ken held up three fingers.
[01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:14.320]  That's what you need to be.
[01:38:14.320 --> 01:38:23.320]  You need to know what to expect from the person that you're talking to.
[01:38:23.320 --> 01:38:28.320]  And realistically expect not what he's supposed to do.
[01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:32.320]  But what are the political pressures on him?
[01:38:32.320 --> 01:38:40.320]  And how can you bring political pressures to bear that will give him cause to act the way he should act?
[01:38:40.320 --> 01:38:45.320]  Because he's not going to do it if it's not politically expedient.
[01:38:45.320 --> 01:38:56.320]  And what do you need to do to protect yourself? Because if they come after you and I'm not talking about them coming and shooting at you or shooting at your family,
[01:38:56.320 --> 01:39:01.320]  that's not the most serious concern here.
[01:39:01.320 --> 01:39:05.320]  When they get that far, that's really stupid and really dangerous.
[01:39:05.320 --> 01:39:09.320]  And I would expect these guys are smarter than that.
[01:39:09.320 --> 01:39:13.320]  All they have to do is file some focus charge against you.
[01:39:13.320 --> 01:39:15.320]  Right.
[01:39:15.320 --> 01:39:25.320]  And then get their politically paid public officials to walk you through the courts.
[01:39:25.320 --> 01:39:27.320]  They don't care if they don't win.
[01:39:27.320 --> 01:39:31.320]  You may beat time, but you won't beat the ride.
[01:39:31.320 --> 01:39:34.320]  This is a more serious concern.
[01:39:34.320 --> 01:39:39.320]  And you need to look at all of these issues before you go in.
[01:39:39.320 --> 01:39:46.320]  A first thing is get a timeline down.
[01:39:46.320 --> 01:39:49.320]  All of these issues put them all in.
[01:39:49.320 --> 01:39:53.320]  If they're separate issues, put them in a separate timeline.
[01:39:53.320 --> 01:39:56.320]  We found this, we found this, we found this, we found this.
[01:39:56.320 --> 01:40:01.320]  You'll find that that is extremely valuable.
[01:40:01.320 --> 01:40:09.320]  But what it will also do is help you learn how to write a statement of facts.
[01:40:09.320 --> 01:40:17.320]  A statement of facts as opposed to a statement of factual accusation.
[01:40:17.320 --> 01:40:25.320]  You can make a statement of factual accusation after you've made a statement of facts.
[01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:29.320]  And you need these two together.
[01:40:29.320 --> 01:40:37.320]  You will see when you start with a timeline, then you get everything in order.
[01:40:37.320 --> 01:40:43.320]  Not only is it good to have for other people, it's even more important for you.
[01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:48.320]  Because you have a lot going on here.
[01:40:48.320 --> 01:40:53.320]  And if you're trying to hold it all in your head, it's going to get confused.
[01:40:53.320 --> 01:40:59.320]  Timelines are going to get dropped and you're going to miss important connections.
[01:40:59.320 --> 01:41:06.320]  If you put it all in a timeline where you can look at it or where I can get the timeline and you can, you make a statement about something.
[01:41:06.320 --> 01:41:10.320]  And I can look at the timeline, I know exactly where that lands in the sequence.
[01:41:10.320 --> 01:41:14.320]  And then you go to something else and I can find that in the timeline.
[01:41:14.320 --> 01:41:20.320]  So overall I can see exactly where this fits.
[01:41:20.320 --> 01:41:33.320]  I do this and I look at these things and often something just jumps right out at me that I would never have seen before.
[01:41:33.320 --> 01:41:38.320]  And I tell people that once in a while I just had an epiphany.
[01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:41.320]  I took something for it and it's better now.
[01:41:41.320 --> 01:41:49.320]  But you will get those once you have this laid out in a good logical sequence.
[01:41:49.320 --> 01:41:52.320]  You begin to see how these pieces fit together.
[01:41:52.320 --> 01:41:54.320]  Well, we do.
[01:41:54.320 --> 01:42:03.320]  Even though my rambling seems like I don't, we've got a very really well documented chronology.
[01:42:03.320 --> 01:42:11.320]  And my brother and I have just emailed stuff back and forth with each other.
[01:42:11.320 --> 01:42:16.320]  Okay, let me ask a question about that chronology.
[01:42:16.320 --> 01:42:30.320]  Is the chronology clean in that you have a listing of what happened and not your opinion about what happened?
[01:42:30.320 --> 01:42:32.320]  Oh yes, absolutely.
[01:42:32.320 --> 01:42:36.320]  Okay, okay, here's the reason I say that.
[01:42:36.320 --> 01:42:40.320]  We want facts, not conclusions.
[01:42:40.320 --> 01:42:49.320]  Because when you're experiencing finding these facts and coming across them, you will have mental impressions about them.
[01:42:49.320 --> 01:42:51.320]  They may be correct and they may not.
[01:42:51.320 --> 01:43:06.320]  If you write it down as a mental impression to it, but if you write it simply as a fact and always hold in your mind,
[01:43:06.320 --> 01:43:14.320]  we put the facts up here at the top and then underneath it we'll put factual actualization.
[01:43:14.320 --> 01:43:19.320]  Then you won't have a preconceived notion attached to it.
[01:43:19.320 --> 01:43:25.320]  And there's one other piece of art in doing this.
[01:43:25.320 --> 01:43:34.320]  If you're trying to convince someone of a position and a lot of people when they first do this,
[01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:39.320]  they feel like when they give you the piece of information,
[01:43:39.320 --> 01:43:44.320]  they have to convince you of its value when they give it to you.
[01:43:44.320 --> 01:43:49.320]  And the person hearing it will feel patronized if you do that.
[01:43:49.320 --> 01:43:55.320]  There's a really elegant way of structuring facts and soon to get back, I will address that.
[01:43:55.320 --> 01:44:00.320]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens at Craig with the radio, moving right back.
[01:44:00.320 --> 01:44:04.320]  Hey, did you hear? Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012.
[01:44:04.320 --> 01:44:05.320]  Is this Ron Paul?
[01:44:05.320 --> 01:44:07.320]  Really? Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute.
[01:44:07.320 --> 01:44:10.320]  Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:44:10.320 --> 01:44:13.320]  Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:44:13.320 --> 01:44:15.320]  Of course you do.
[01:44:15.320 --> 01:44:20.320]  Now listen closely, you need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
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[01:44:23.320 --> 01:44:28.320]  They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:44:28.320 --> 01:44:31.320]  Brave New Books? Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:44:31.320 --> 01:44:37.320]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:44:37.320 --> 01:44:40.320]  Ugh, that sounds like that's shown on the Discovery Channel.
[01:44:40.320 --> 01:44:47.320]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earthskill School that you can sign up for on the website BraveNewBookStore.com.
[01:44:47.320 --> 01:44:48.320]  What are you doing?
[01:44:48.320 --> 01:44:53.320]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to BraveNewBookStore.com or down to the bookstore in person.
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[01:44:54.320 --> 01:44:56.320]  1904 Guadalupe Street.
[01:44:56.320 --> 01:44:58.320]  I even made a smiley face.
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[01:46:01.320 --> 01:46:24.320]  Okay, we're back.
[01:46:24.320 --> 01:46:48.320]  We're talking about a strategy, a way of doing this, and in my experience over a longer period of time than I'd like to talk about,
[01:46:48.320 --> 01:47:00.320]  I found that a very carefully constructed statement of facts is the single most valuable tool you can have.
[01:47:00.320 --> 01:47:12.320]  Now, in my statement of facts, I want all of the facts, whether they seem important or not, but just in the form of a timeline.
[01:47:12.320 --> 01:47:20.320]  No argument about the facts, no explanation about the facts, just this and this and this and this and this.
[01:47:20.320 --> 01:47:31.320]  Once I have them all lined out, then I look at the conclusions that I have come to based on my study of this issue.
[01:47:31.320 --> 01:47:47.320]  Then I go back and look at my facts and I pull the facts that would tend to lead a reasonable person of ordinary prudence to the conclusion that I came to.
[01:47:47.320 --> 01:48:03.320]  If I have a fact that doesn't point one way or another, I leave it out. If I have a fact that kind of points away, then I want to put that in, but I'll try to put some other facts to bring it back.
[01:48:03.320 --> 01:48:15.320]  I want the person needing it to come to the conclusion that I did without me telling them what the conclusion is.
[01:48:15.320 --> 01:48:20.320]  So I try to lay out the facts that would lead you to those places.
[01:48:20.320 --> 01:48:32.320]  And then after that, then I go to my factual accusation. Then I say this fact and this fact and this fact leads to this conclusion.
[01:48:32.320 --> 01:48:49.320]  And if you've done this right, when you do that, the reader will say, that's the conclusion I came to. And then he will think you're really smart and you will get what's called rapport.
[01:48:49.320 --> 01:49:01.320]  That will wheel for the reader to do an internal pace. You will pace what he was thinking and that will reinforce what he's thinking.
[01:49:01.320 --> 01:49:17.320]  It's important for us to construct our arguments so that we lead the reader to the conclusions and outcomes that we want them to come to.
[01:49:17.320 --> 01:49:33.320]  If we don't do that, and the other thing we have to do when you go through this, have someone who knows nothing about it, read it. Preferably an eighth grader.
[01:49:33.320 --> 01:49:43.320]  You do not want to write this for the sophisticated reader. And that's not a criticism of the judges or the prosecutors.
[01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:54.320]  You have to understand that these investigators and judges and prosecutors and others are very busy.
[01:49:54.320 --> 01:50:01.320]  I'm busy. I read lots of documents every day and I have people call me about their issues.
[01:50:01.320 --> 01:50:10.320]  About issues I've put together for them and I have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
[01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:19.320]  They have to go back and give me the details. Do not assume that I remember a detail.
[01:50:19.320 --> 01:50:29.320]  And always make sure you make a connection from one piece of information to the next.
[01:50:29.320 --> 01:50:38.320]  In this part I'm an engineer. And engineers, all we really do is we connect the dots.
[01:50:38.320 --> 01:50:44.320]  And for an engineer, you can never leave a dot unconnected.
[01:50:44.320 --> 01:50:52.320]  Or if you do leave one unconnected, you've got to have a little circle there that says, this dot's not connected.
[01:50:52.320 --> 01:50:56.320]  So pay attention to it because it may come back to haunt you later.
[01:50:56.320 --> 01:51:03.320]  People doing law, these lawyers tend to think that law is an art form. It's not.
[01:51:03.320 --> 01:51:08.320]  Law is engineering. The statutes are textbooks.
[01:51:08.320 --> 01:51:14.320]  And tech manuals. And you just have to follow all the steps and make sure everything's connected.
[01:51:14.320 --> 01:51:25.320]  If I go down through your statement of facts and you put in a fact that doesn't directly follow from what's before it,
[01:51:25.320 --> 01:51:30.320]  I'm going to say, what the heck does that mean?
[01:51:30.320 --> 01:51:35.320]  And when that happens in psychology, then it calls out a para-interruption.
[01:51:35.320 --> 01:51:42.320]  I have dropped out of the flow of thought and I'm interrupted.
[01:51:42.320 --> 01:51:51.320]  And I'm going to stay interrupted until that question that was created in my mind gets answered.
[01:51:51.320 --> 01:51:57.320]  Now, Mike, there's no way that you can do this.
[01:51:57.320 --> 01:52:05.320]  I have people go over my documents and they find errors that were in there that I have looked at a hundred times.
[01:52:05.320 --> 01:52:10.320]  And I can look at it a hundred more times. I will never see it.
[01:52:10.320 --> 01:52:16.320]  We need somebody else and especially someone not sophisticated.
[01:52:16.320 --> 01:52:20.320]  We're writing for a very sophisticated reader.
[01:52:20.320 --> 01:52:29.320]  But since this is when someone gets it the first time they read it through, if they don't understand it,
[01:52:29.320 --> 01:52:32.320]  they're not likely to look at it again.
[01:52:32.320 --> 01:52:40.320]  The first impression you want them to come to the conclusion that you think like they do,
[01:52:40.320 --> 01:52:46.320]  that you're coming to the same conclusions they would come to, and this is how we get that done.
[01:52:46.320 --> 01:52:52.320]  And that's all I'm going to say about this. Okay, Mike, go ahead.
[01:52:52.320 --> 01:52:56.320]  I'm lecturing you now, so I think.
[01:52:56.320 --> 01:52:59.320]  I'm sorry.
[01:52:59.320 --> 01:53:05.320]  The thing is how do you, you know, there are facts that we can't get.
[01:53:05.320 --> 01:53:10.320]  You know, there are certain pieces that we can't get because they're not public information,
[01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:16.320]  even though we know there's stuff that we can't get.
[01:53:16.320 --> 01:53:21.320]  You know, you can go to the courthouse and photograph death certificates and all kinds of things.
[01:53:21.320 --> 01:53:30.320]  Short of calling the families of these people, there's things that we can't get that the officials,
[01:53:30.320 --> 01:53:33.320]  law enforcement, can get.
[01:53:33.320 --> 01:53:37.320]  Okay, let me address that somewhat.
[01:53:37.320 --> 01:53:45.320]  If you, a lot of this information can be gotten by a private investigator.
[01:53:45.320 --> 01:53:51.320]  Private investigator is because their licensed professionals can get access to information
[01:53:51.320 --> 01:53:55.320]  and computer systems if you can't get access to.
[01:53:55.320 --> 01:54:03.320]  And there's another tool that you can use, and it's what we mentioned earlier, pre-litigation discovery.
[01:54:03.320 --> 01:54:14.320]  And often you can use the threat or the implication of pre-litigation discovery to get someone off the dime.
[01:54:14.320 --> 01:54:20.320]  Oftentimes people will hold records that aren't really restricted.
[01:54:20.320 --> 01:54:24.320]  They just don't want to turn loose of them.
[01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:34.320]  But if you can give them reason to, and pre-litigation discovery is often a really powerful tool in this regard,
[01:54:34.320 --> 01:54:38.320]  that you send it as pre-litigation discovery.
[01:54:38.320 --> 01:54:40.320]  Let me explain how discovery works.
[01:54:40.320 --> 01:54:47.320]  If you're in a lawsuit, you know, we have people file suits and foreclosure issues.
[01:54:47.320 --> 01:54:57.320]  And included in this, the documentation we provide is a request for initial disclosures.
[01:54:57.320 --> 01:55:03.320]  Now, we file it in the court record only because we're going to reference it later.
[01:55:03.320 --> 01:55:08.320]  Discovery normally does not go to the court.
[01:55:08.320 --> 01:55:11.320]  That's something between the two parties.
[01:55:11.320 --> 01:55:18.320]  Now, it's authorized under law, but it's intended that I send you discovery, you send me discovery,
[01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:21.320]  I answer you as you answer mine.
[01:55:21.320 --> 01:55:28.320]  Now, if you don't answer mine, then I would take that discovery I sent you,
[01:55:28.320 --> 01:55:35.320]  and I'd file it in the court and ask the court to order you to give that to me.
[01:55:35.320 --> 01:55:37.320]  So that's important.
[01:55:37.320 --> 01:55:40.320]  The lawyers on the other side are going to know this.
[01:55:40.320 --> 01:55:48.320]  So when you send them pre-litigation discovery, and you call it pre-litigation discovery,
[01:55:48.320 --> 01:55:55.320]  and they don't give it to you, they're going to know that you know enough to go to the court
[01:55:55.320 --> 01:56:01.320]  and ask the court to order them to give it to you, and they're not going to want that to happen.
[01:56:01.320 --> 01:56:05.320]  So this is what they're likely to do.
[01:56:05.320 --> 01:56:12.320]  They're likely to give you little pieces of what you asked for.
[01:56:12.320 --> 01:56:20.320]  Watch for that, because partial response is non-responsive.
[01:56:20.320 --> 01:56:30.320]  But in getting the little pieces, now you can look at that and say that now you can show a deliberate intent to deceive
[01:56:30.320 --> 01:56:32.320]  and use what they do against them.
[01:56:32.320 --> 01:56:39.320]  There's a lot of tools here, and way too much to go through all of them on one show.
[01:56:39.320 --> 01:56:47.320]  So at this point, I think I need to break off of all these different suggestions
[01:56:47.320 --> 01:56:54.320]  and ask you to put together this timeline first.
[01:56:54.320 --> 01:56:59.320]  And don't be concerned that all the issues don't necessarily fit together.
[01:56:59.320 --> 01:57:06.320]  Just get a timeline, and then we can go back to the timeline and say,
[01:57:06.320 --> 01:57:10.320]  okay, we have the issue of the wrongful death of your mother.
[01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:16.320]  Let's go down to timeline and pull out the facts that go to that issue and put them in a separate timeline.
[01:57:16.320 --> 01:57:27.320]  Now let's go to the facts that we found in the timeline that go to Medicare fraud and put that in a separate timeline.
[01:57:27.320 --> 01:57:36.320]  Now we will begin to get these things organized in a way that's intuitively understandable for humans.
[01:57:36.320 --> 01:57:38.320]  Does that make sense, Mark?
[01:57:38.320 --> 01:57:39.320]  Sure.
[01:57:39.320 --> 01:57:43.320]  And I had one question.
[01:57:43.320 --> 01:57:49.320]  The Quadtam Act, I read that you have to have an attorney to file that.
[01:57:49.320 --> 01:57:51.320]  Is that correct?
[01:57:51.320 --> 01:57:56.320]  In some states you do, in some states you don't.
[01:57:56.320 --> 01:58:00.320]  So I'm not sure about North Carolina.
[01:58:00.320 --> 01:58:09.320]  But I wouldn't go to the attorney until you got your case pretty well wrapped up.
[01:58:09.320 --> 01:58:13.320]  You have to do most of the work for them.
[01:58:13.320 --> 01:58:16.320]  You're busy, you don't have time.
[01:58:16.320 --> 01:58:24.320]  And so they're going to look at this and they're going to say, I am going to spend a fortune trying to gather all this information
[01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:27.320]  because they're paying people big money to do it.
[01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:34.320]  If you got the information put together, you structure it in a way that they can look at it and see a case in it,
[01:58:34.320 --> 01:58:36.320]  then you'll get someone to pick it up.
[01:58:36.320 --> 01:58:38.320]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[01:58:38.320 --> 01:58:42.320]  This is Randy Kelton, devastating Daddy Craig with our radio.
[01:58:42.320 --> 01:58:47.320]  I'll call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:58:47.320 --> 01:58:50.320]  We'll pick you up on the other side, Mike.
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