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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.760] This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:04.760 --> 00:09.760] Israeli aircraft struck the Gaza Strip Thursday as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
[00:09.760 --> 00:13.560] blamed Iran for fighting in the Palestinian territory.
[00:13.560 --> 00:18.360] Violence has resumed since the collapse of a truce Tuesday, accusing Iran of arming,
[00:18.360 --> 00:22.240] financing and training Gaza militants and giving them their marching orders.
[00:22.240 --> 00:26.760] Netanyahu claimed, Gaza is Iran.
[00:26.760 --> 00:32.400] Pakistan has told the U.S. who will no longer permit drones to use Pakistan's airspace
[00:32.400 --> 00:34.520] to launch attacks or collect intelligence.
[00:34.520 --> 00:40.040] If the U.S. continues flying drone missions without Pakistani permission, some Pakistani
[00:40.040 --> 00:45.720] military officials have suggested Pakistan would be within its rights to shoot them down.
[00:45.720 --> 00:51.400] In turn, the U.S. could withdraw $4.4 billion in economic assistance, counterinsurgency
[00:51.400 --> 00:55.240] funding and military reimbursement.
[00:55.240 --> 00:59.600] The Ohio State Government says earthquakes can now be added to the harmful consequences
[00:59.600 --> 01:04.240] of the controversial practice of fracking, whereby gas is forced out of the ground by
[01:04.240 --> 01:05.800] pressurized fluid.
[01:05.800 --> 01:11.640] In a recent report, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources concluded a rash of 12 earthquakes
[01:11.640 --> 01:17.120] in the Youngstown, Ohio area between March and December 2011 was likely due to nearby
[01:17.120 --> 01:20.240] fracking operations.
[01:20.240 --> 01:25.400] The nonprofit Community Preservation Corporation has teetered on the brink of collapse ever
[01:25.400 --> 01:30.720] since starting a for-profit wing that invested hundreds of millions of dollars in luxury
[01:30.720 --> 01:31.720] condos.
[01:31.720 --> 01:36.680] The investments were spearheaded by Community Preservation's longtime leader, Michael Lappin,
[01:36.680 --> 01:42.800] whose salary and bonuses rose to $1.1 million as he pushed the group into risky adventures
[01:42.800 --> 01:44.520] during the housing boom.
[01:44.520 --> 01:48.880] Some were financed by Community Preservation, others by its for-profit spin-off.
[01:48.880 --> 01:54.800] At the peak of the real estate boom in 2007 and 2008, more than half of the $1.5 billion
[01:54.800 --> 02:00.920] in loans originated by Community Preservation, or its for-profit arm, were for luxury condos.
[02:00.920 --> 02:06.320] Nearly two-thirds of CPC's condo loans are delinquent.
[02:06.320 --> 02:11.520] Iranian human rights activist Abdullaji Alcawajo, who had been fasting for five weeks protesting
[02:11.520 --> 02:16.480] his detention and that of other activists arrested during pro-democracy demonstrations,
[02:16.480 --> 02:20.520] has lost 31 pounds and is so weak he can barely stand.
[02:20.520 --> 02:25.360] Alcawajo won a 14 activists and political leaders taken from his home at night was not
[02:25.360 --> 02:28.160] allowed to bring his diabetes medication with him.
[02:28.160 --> 02:31.680] He and six others were given life sentences by a military court.
[02:31.680 --> 02:37.080] A committee investigating abuses during last year's crackdown on mass demonstrations recommended
[02:37.080 --> 02:41.840] that a civilian court review all convictions handed down by military trials.
[02:41.840 --> 02:46.440] However, most are being reviewed by a committee appointed by the Supreme Judicial Council
[02:46.440 --> 02:48.440] a body chaired by Bahrain's King.
[03:16.440 --> 03:29.440] What do you want, what do you want, what are you going to do, when you show me some broken
[03:29.440 --> 03:30.440] for you?
[03:30.440 --> 03:35.440] Tell me, what are you going to do, what are you going to do, check.
[03:35.440 --> 03:45.440] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come for
[03:45.440 --> 03:46.440] you?
[03:46.440 --> 03:55.440] When you were eight and you had bad dreams, you go to school and learn to go, they don't
[03:55.440 --> 03:56.440] rule.
[03:56.440 --> 03:58.440] So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:58.440 --> 04:01.440] It is your game, then you must get through.
[04:01.440 --> 04:06.440] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come
[04:06.440 --> 04:07.440] for you?
[04:07.440 --> 04:12.440] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come for
[04:12.440 --> 04:13.440] you?
[04:13.440 --> 04:29.440] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come for
[04:29.440 --> 04:30.440] you?
[04:30.440 --> 04:32.320] When they come for you.
[04:32.320 --> 04:36.440] Here on The Rule of Law, this a The Rule of Law show.
[04:36.440 --> 04:46.680] show. We are streaming live from LogosRadioNetwork.com. That is the name of the network, LogosRadioNetwork.com.
[04:46.680 --> 04:53.680] I'm Deborah Stevens here with my esteemed co-host Eddie Craig and Randy Kelton. We'll
[04:53.680 --> 04:58.120] be opening up the phone lines shortly for folks who want to call in with comments or
[04:58.120 --> 05:06.880] questions, but first I wanted to go over some issues, some news that is very interesting
[05:06.880 --> 05:16.240] going on in Randy's home state of Tennessee. The Tennessee legislature just this past week
[05:16.240 --> 05:26.080] has passed a resolution against the implementation of Agenda 21 in their state, and I have to
[05:26.080 --> 05:31.680] give a big round of applause to the Tennessee legislature. This is just wonderful, and I
[05:31.680 --> 05:37.600] hope that many more states will follow in the footsteps of Tennessee, of Tennessee taking
[05:37.600 --> 05:44.040] the lead here, and I'm going to read something here. There's an article from the activist
[05:44.040 --> 05:52.440] post. This was published this past Sunday by Joe Wright, and it says here, Joe Wright
[05:52.440 --> 05:58.320] is writing saying that he is happy to report that the Tennessee lawmakers have passed joint
[05:58.320 --> 06:09.320] resolution 587 by a vote of 72 to 23 to condemn Agenda 21 as, quote, destructive and insidious.
[06:09.320 --> 06:16.560] Well, then some pretty strong words, pretty strong fighting words. It says here, the language
[06:16.560 --> 06:22.420] used by the Tennessee lawmakers is worth examination because it is among the harshest and most
[06:22.420 --> 06:29.240] truthful that has been used to spell out the true plan that Agenda 21 has in store for
[06:29.240 --> 06:35.400] the United States. Contrary to the flowery language that policymakers have used to set
[06:35.400 --> 06:42.280] Agenda 21, appealing to well-meaning people through the use of words like sustainability,
[06:42.280 --> 06:51.240] biodiversity, quality of life, smart growth, and the ever-inclusive human rights, the language
[06:51.240 --> 06:58.960] contained in resolution 587 strongly refutes this saying. And here's the resolution. It
[06:58.960 --> 07:06.640] was passed by both houses, the Senate and the House. It's a done deal. It says, whereas
[07:06.640 --> 07:16.160] the United Nations Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of extreme environmentalism, social engineering,
[07:16.160 --> 07:22.960] and global political control that was initiated at the United Nations Conference on Environment
[07:22.960 --> 07:33.100] and Development, held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil in 1992, and whereas the United Nations Agenda
[07:33.100 --> 07:41.440] 21 is being covertly pushed into local communities throughout the United States of America, through
[07:41.440 --> 07:50.720] the International Council of Local Environmental Initiatives, which is ICLEI, through local,
[07:50.720 --> 07:59.000] quote, sustainable development policies such as smart growth, wild lands project, resilient
[07:59.000 --> 08:08.360] cities, regional visioning projects, and other, quote, green or, quote, alternative projects,
[08:08.360 --> 08:17.920] and whereas the United Nations Agenda 21 plan of radical so-called, quote, sustainable development
[08:17.920 --> 08:25.560] views the, I'm sorry, quote, sustainable development, end quote, views the American way of life
[08:25.560 --> 08:33.160] of private property ownership, single-family homes, private car ownership, and individual
[08:33.160 --> 08:42.440] travel choices, and privately owned farms as destructive to the environment, and whereas
[08:42.440 --> 08:50.040] according to the United Nations Agenda 21 policy, social justice is described as the
[08:50.040 --> 08:56.800] right and opportunity of all people to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by
[08:56.800 --> 09:04.440] society and the environment which would be accomplished by socialist, communist redistribution
[09:04.440 --> 09:13.640] of wealth, and whereas according to the United Nations Agenda 21 policy, national sovereignty
[09:13.640 --> 09:23.040] is deemed as a social injustice, now therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives
[09:23.040 --> 09:31.120] of the 107th General Assembly of the State of Tennessee, the Senate concurring that the
[09:31.120 --> 09:39.080] General Assembly recognizes the destructive and insidious nature of United Nations Agenda
[09:39.080 --> 09:47.080] 21 and hereby exposes to the public and public policy makers the dangerous intent of the
[09:47.080 --> 09:55.000] plan, be it further resolved that neither the US government nor any state or local government
[09:55.000 --> 10:03.120] is legally bound by the United Nations Agenda 21 treaty in that it has never been endorsed
[10:03.120 --> 10:10.280] by the US Senate, be it further resolved that the federal government and state and local
[10:10.280 --> 10:17.560] governments across the country be well informed of the underlying harmful implications of
[10:17.560 --> 10:24.880] the implementation of United Nations Agenda 21 destructive strategies for, quote, sustainable
[10:24.880 --> 10:32.040] development and we hereby endorse rejection of its radical policies and rejection of any
[10:32.040 --> 10:35.800] grant monies attached to it.
[10:35.800 --> 10:40.720] Can we get a round of applause for the Tennessee legislature, everyone out there, I think this
[10:40.720 --> 10:41.720] is just wonderful.
[10:41.720 --> 10:48.600] I feel like holding it, where's my lighter, I'm going to hold up the lighter, this is
[10:48.600 --> 10:56.720] wonderful, this is just absolutely wonderful, however, of course, you guessed it, they are
[10:56.720 --> 11:04.440] now being bashed by the Southern Poverty Law Center, so the Southern Poverty Law Center
[11:04.440 --> 11:09.800] is now saying that the Tennessee legislature is anti-government, but they are the government.
[11:09.800 --> 11:17.040] I mean, this is just absolute just craziness and if you go to the Southern Poverty Law
[11:17.040 --> 11:21.320] Center, hate watch, you scroll down their blog, it's got a little post about it, it
[11:21.320 --> 11:28.800] says the Southern Poverty Law Center accuses the decision by the Tennessee legislature
[11:28.800 --> 11:37.280] to condemn Agenda 21 as a, quote, a new sign of anti-government extremism creeping into
[11:37.280 --> 11:38.480] the political mainstream.
[11:38.480 --> 11:45.040] Okay, so because the Tennessee legislature is calling Agenda 21 for what it is, which
[11:45.040 --> 11:51.720] is to grab people's private property and to undermine the American way of life, that's
[11:51.720 --> 11:56.600] anti-government because we don't want to go along with a globalist plan of United Nations
[11:56.600 --> 12:00.520] Agenda 21, even though it's not even a binding treaty because it was never ratified by the
[12:00.520 --> 12:01.520] U.S. Senate.
[12:01.520 --> 12:06.240] Oh, that's anti-government, okay, whatever, just like we're supposedly anti-government
[12:06.240 --> 12:14.320] because yours truly, Rule of Law Radio is now on the Southern Poverty Law Center website
[12:14.320 --> 12:22.680] as well, that came out, I guess it's their yearly publication of anti, where they come
[12:22.680 --> 12:27.680] out every once a year where they list active anti-government groups.
[12:27.680 --> 12:34.680] And we just changed the name of the network, we just switched over to Logos Radio Network
[12:34.680 --> 12:39.280] at the end of December, so they're talking about the network because the network's always
[12:39.280 --> 12:40.600] been called Rule of Law Radio.
[12:40.600 --> 12:46.720] So if you look on the Southern Poverty Law Center website and go to their special area
[12:46.720 --> 12:53.160] where they have the active anti-government groups, you'll see us in Texas, Rule of Law
[12:53.160 --> 12:54.160] Radio.
[12:54.160 --> 12:59.080] And so I just want to make it clear, folks, we're not anti-government, in fact, on Eddie's
[12:59.080 --> 13:03.880] traffic seminar book that we sell on the website, what does it say on the front?
[13:03.880 --> 13:10.160] It says, no, officer, I'm not anti-government, but I am anti-idiot, okay?
[13:10.160 --> 13:15.720] We are anti-criminal around here and we're not anti-government, we have never expressed
[13:15.720 --> 13:18.000] any anti-government views.
[13:18.000 --> 13:25.080] In fact, that's why this show is called the Rule of Law because we are advocates of the
[13:25.080 --> 13:27.920] statute and the Constitution.
[13:27.920 --> 13:33.880] We insist on everyone following the Rule of Law, and most especially our public servants.
[13:33.880 --> 13:39.720] So I don't see how we can be accused of being anti-government when all we want is for our
[13:39.720 --> 13:41.600] public servants to follow the law.
[13:41.600 --> 13:45.840] That doesn't seem to be the definition of anti-government to me.
[13:45.840 --> 13:48.800] Well actually, it's anti-government to them.
[13:48.800 --> 13:49.800] Yes.
[13:49.800 --> 13:55.840] So at any rate, I was going to, you know, I don't know what, if anything, should really
[13:55.840 --> 13:57.840] be done about it.
[13:57.840 --> 14:02.240] I mean, there's a lot of groups on the website that are labeled as anti-government, which
[14:02.240 --> 14:03.960] by no means are.
[14:03.960 --> 14:08.000] And who knows, Eddie, Randy, maybe a lawsuit isn't over here against the Southern Poverty
[14:08.000 --> 14:09.000] Law Center.
[14:09.000 --> 14:10.000] I mean, this is libel.
[14:10.000 --> 14:16.560] It's a slanderous lies about us put in print on their website.
[14:16.560 --> 14:18.240] What do you have to say about that, Eddie?
[14:18.240 --> 14:19.240] I'd agree.
[14:19.240 --> 14:21.760] What do you have to say about it, Randy?
[14:21.760 --> 14:22.760] Randy?
[14:22.760 --> 14:26.640] He disconnected for a second.
[14:26.640 --> 14:28.120] He said his Internet failed.
[14:28.120 --> 14:29.920] He tried to get it back up.
[14:29.920 --> 14:30.920] Okay.
[14:30.920 --> 14:31.920] We've lost Randy.
[14:31.920 --> 14:32.920] All right.
[14:32.920 --> 14:37.480] Well, let's see if I can get Randy connected back with us again.
[14:37.480 --> 14:38.480] Randy, are you there?
[14:38.480 --> 14:39.480] I'm back.
[14:39.480 --> 14:40.800] I don't know what's going on.
[14:40.800 --> 14:41.800] Okay.
[14:41.800 --> 14:42.800] My Internet's disconnecting.
[14:42.800 --> 14:43.800] Okay.
[14:43.800 --> 14:47.440] Well, did you hear about what I was saying about the Southern?
[14:47.440 --> 14:48.440] When did you drop off?
[14:48.440 --> 14:50.840] Did you hear me talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center?
[14:50.840 --> 14:54.000] I heard a little of the tail end of it.
[14:54.000 --> 15:00.360] I have sent them an email demanding that they remove us from that list within 30 days or
[15:00.360 --> 15:01.360] be sued.
[15:01.360 --> 15:02.360] Oh, you have?
[15:02.360 --> 15:04.160] Yes, I have.
[15:04.160 --> 15:05.660] Okay.
[15:05.660 --> 15:12.520] And I got a letter back from some PhD idiot that said that we weren't on their hate list.
[15:12.520 --> 15:15.320] No, we're not on the hate list.
[15:15.320 --> 15:17.320] We're on the anti-government list.
[15:17.320 --> 15:21.480] Well, I never said I was on the hate list.
[15:21.480 --> 15:27.720] They removed me from the anti-government list, and I do plan to file an action against them
[15:27.720 --> 15:30.960] as soon as the 30 days are up.
[15:30.960 --> 15:34.080] Well, there you have it.
[15:34.080 --> 15:36.920] I considered her answer non-responsive.
[15:36.920 --> 15:37.920] It's a non-responsive.
[15:37.920 --> 15:39.960] It's absolutely a non-responsive answer.
[15:39.960 --> 15:42.960] I want to play.
[15:42.960 --> 15:43.960] You want to be part of the lawsuit?
[15:43.960 --> 15:45.960] You want to be a co-plaintiff, Eddie?
[15:45.960 --> 15:46.960] Well, absolutely.
[15:46.960 --> 15:47.960] You're not part of the show?
[15:47.960 --> 15:48.960] Of course.
[15:48.960 --> 15:56.360] I mean, all the hosts on the network are standing to be co-plaintiffs in the lawsuit because
[15:56.360 --> 16:01.720] at the time of the publication, they were referring to anti-government, quote unquote,
[16:01.720 --> 16:08.960] groups that were active in 2011, and Rule of Law Radio was a network at the time.
[16:08.960 --> 16:14.600] Now it's Rule of Law Radio is just our show, but at the time in 2011, Rule of Law Radio
[16:14.600 --> 16:20.560] was the entire network of all the shows, and so, yeah, technically, all the hosts could
[16:20.560 --> 16:22.160] be co-plaintiffs there.
[16:22.160 --> 16:24.640] But nobody has ever expressed any anti-government views.
[16:24.640 --> 16:27.440] I mean, I produce all the shows on the network.
[16:27.440 --> 16:31.560] I have some volunteer producers that help, but I still listen to almost everything.
[16:31.560 --> 16:34.120] I've never heard anybody expressing the anti-government views.
[16:34.120 --> 16:35.120] I've been slandered.
[16:35.120 --> 16:39.720] Well, it's libel.
[16:39.720 --> 16:41.480] And what about the Tennessee legislature?
[16:41.480 --> 16:45.640] The Southern Poverty Law Center called them anti-government, too, and they're the government.
[16:45.640 --> 16:51.520] All right, folks, we will be right back.
[16:51.520 --> 16:52.520] This is the Rule of Law.
[16:52.520 --> 17:00.880] If you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
[17:00.880 --> 17:28.840] Thanks for your time, gentlemen.
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[19:11.040 --> 19:14.560] OK, folks, we are back.
[19:14.560 --> 19:16.320] This is the rule of law.
[19:16.320 --> 19:19.480] Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens,
[19:19.480 --> 19:23.760] and we have a call from my very good friend up in Oklahoma,
[19:23.760 --> 19:24.800] Chris Emery.
[19:24.800 --> 19:27.200] He called to tell us.
[19:27.200 --> 19:30.480] Chris, tell us what you told us on the break.
[19:30.480 --> 19:32.280] He said, I'm not talking to you.
[19:32.280 --> 19:34.960] I'm not associating with you anti-government heathens
[19:34.960 --> 19:37.280] anymore.
[19:37.280 --> 19:37.960] He's just kidding.
[19:37.960 --> 19:38.800] He's my good friend, Chris.
[19:38.800 --> 19:39.480] What's up, Chris?
[19:39.480 --> 19:42.560] What's on your mind?
[19:42.560 --> 19:45.120] Chris?
[19:45.120 --> 19:45.600] Oh, no.
[19:45.600 --> 19:47.040] He's not talking to us, heathens.
[19:47.040 --> 19:47.720] Yeah, that's right.
[19:47.720 --> 19:49.040] He's not talking to us, heathens anymore.
[19:49.040 --> 19:49.920] He dropped off the line.
[19:49.920 --> 19:52.960] OK, maybe he'll call back.
[19:52.960 --> 19:55.360] Anyways, he was calling to give some kind of an update
[19:55.360 --> 19:57.600] of things going on up there in Oklahoma,
[19:57.600 --> 20:00.200] but hopefully he'll call back in.
[20:00.200 --> 20:03.360] So continue on, Randy?
[20:03.360 --> 20:08.200] Yes, by the way, I've sent the email to them,
[20:08.200 --> 20:11.720] and I've got a response back.
[20:11.720 --> 20:17.760] And I started to respond to the email and decided not to.
[20:17.760 --> 20:22.920] Since I sent it to them, they sent me a non-responsive answer.
[20:22.920 --> 20:24.240] That's enough.
[20:24.240 --> 20:26.880] So the next thing they'll get is a?
[20:31.080 --> 20:37.560] Is a Randy?
[20:37.560 --> 20:39.600] He dropped off the line again.
[20:39.600 --> 20:42.680] I think he's having internet problems.
[20:42.680 --> 20:46.200] All right, well, let's try to get him back.
[20:46.200 --> 20:49.680] So Eddie, what are your comments?
[20:49.680 --> 20:52.080] I'll try not to have any unless we're really important.
[20:52.080 --> 20:56.800] But I don't know, it's just one of these things
[20:56.800 --> 20:59.360] where the more you try to do the right thing,
[20:59.360 --> 21:01.960] the more people you're going to find against you
[21:01.960 --> 21:03.520] this day and age.
[21:03.520 --> 21:07.400] And I honestly think that we need
[21:07.400 --> 21:10.120] to start setting the example of bringing this to the public eye.
[21:10.120 --> 21:14.280] It's kind of like what these Hollywood star folks,
[21:14.280 --> 21:17.400] they ignore all these tabloid stories and everything
[21:17.400 --> 21:20.680] that are lying and misrepresenting facts and all that
[21:20.680 --> 21:23.400] because they just don't want to draw attention to anything.
[21:23.400 --> 21:26.760] But these tabloids wouldn't be able to stay around
[21:26.760 --> 21:29.600] if they constantly got sued and lost.
[21:29.600 --> 21:32.560] Neither would places like the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[21:32.560 --> 21:36.400] Yeah, well, they're a little more than a tabloid, in my opinion.
[21:36.400 --> 21:38.960] OK, we've got Chris Emery back on the line.
[21:38.960 --> 21:41.480] Go ahead, Eddie, you want to finish and then I'll bring up Chris?
[21:41.480 --> 21:42.880] No, that's fine.
[21:42.880 --> 21:44.200] That's pretty much where I'm going.
[21:44.200 --> 21:46.600] They're just one of those things that we just need to deal with
[21:46.600 --> 21:49.600] and make sure that everybody knows they're being dealt with.
[21:49.600 --> 21:53.800] Right. OK, Chris, we got you back, so give us the update.
[21:53.800 --> 21:55.760] Well, thank you.
[21:55.760 --> 21:58.160] I'm sorry about what happened.
[21:58.160 --> 22:00.960] Of course, we are changed chapters around the country
[22:00.960 --> 22:03.760] or the same umbrella as you guys.
[22:03.760 --> 22:08.520] And having the radio show host here in Oklahoma City
[22:08.520 --> 22:10.120] and we are changed Oklahoma.
[22:10.120 --> 22:14.000] So we would definitely be party to that particular action
[22:14.000 --> 22:18.920] if you need some more support or additional names and so forth.
[22:18.920 --> 22:23.760] So but you're right, Debbie, just we're bringing the truth out
[22:23.760 --> 22:26.360] into the daylight and they like vampires.
[22:26.360 --> 22:28.040] They don't they don't want to see the daylight.
[22:28.040 --> 22:34.360] They want to just in Scottson, in Bakery and stuff that just doesn't make any sense.
[22:34.360 --> 22:37.080] And I think in our rights away, what you were reading
[22:37.080 --> 22:41.720] and I was driving up the interstate here, listening to your reciting
[22:41.720 --> 22:47.560] the Texas or the Tennessee Declaration, I thought that was awesome.
[22:47.560 --> 22:52.960] It's about time state bodies and just like Charles and Randy Brogdon did
[22:52.960 --> 22:56.200] and Charles Keed here in Oklahoma two years ago.
[22:56.200 --> 22:58.520] If we don't fight for this country, you know, who's going to?
[22:58.520 --> 23:00.520] Nobody's going to stand up for us.
[23:00.520 --> 23:02.360] And it's really a sad state of affairs.
[23:02.360 --> 23:06.200] And Randy, you were in Australia and I was there about a year and a half ago
[23:06.200 --> 23:09.440] and see how their rights are taken away.
[23:09.440 --> 23:10.720] They go through the motions every day.
[23:10.720 --> 23:12.360] They're taxed like crazy.
[23:12.360 --> 23:14.200] It's just insane.
[23:14.200 --> 23:16.200] And they're under the thumb of the British.
[23:16.200 --> 23:22.160] And I asked myself, certainly not denigrating my friends that I made over there.
[23:22.160 --> 23:22.920] It's not the people.
[23:22.920 --> 23:24.600] It's the government that's running them.
[23:24.600 --> 23:26.840] And I asked myself, every day I woke up when I was over there,
[23:26.840 --> 23:29.000] I said, do I want to live under the British Crown?
[23:29.000 --> 23:32.000] And I said to myself, not only no, but hell no.
[23:32.000 --> 23:34.480] And that's slowly, that's where we're coming.
[23:34.480 --> 23:38.800] We're coming full circle back before we gained our independence from them
[23:38.800 --> 23:40.840] from King George.
[23:40.840 --> 23:46.040] So we slide down the slippery path to that and I said, gosh, I hope not.
[23:46.040 --> 23:49.520] So it was good to come back to the United States knowing that at least we have some freedom.
[23:49.520 --> 23:52.360] I'll be damned if I'm going to start giving it away and being ridiculed
[23:52.360 --> 23:55.240] by the likes of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[23:55.240 --> 23:56.360] That's all I have to say.
[23:56.360 --> 23:57.880] Yeah, all right.
[23:57.880 --> 24:00.160] Indeed, I concur.
[24:00.160 --> 24:01.120] Thank you, Chris.
[24:01.120 --> 24:02.360] All right, you have a good night.
[24:02.360 --> 24:04.160] All right, you too.
[24:04.160 --> 24:12.400] Yeah, and speaking of all this Agenda 21 stuff too, there is some pushback against this
[24:12.400 --> 24:22.000] in Texas as well, the mayor of Irving, Texas has kicked Ickley out of the city.
[24:22.000 --> 24:30.880] Most cities, most municipalities in the nation now are part of this Ickley,
[24:30.880 --> 24:38.880] which is the arm of the local pushing in the local governments.
[24:38.880 --> 24:42.560] And I read about that in there.
[24:42.560 --> 24:47.360] It's the International Council of Local Environmental Initiatives.
[24:47.360 --> 24:51.960] That's how Agenda 21 is being covertly pushed into local communities
[24:51.960 --> 24:54.240] and most people have no idea what this is.
[24:54.240 --> 24:59.280] And they are the ones that are setting policy and bossing around our city council members.
[24:59.280 --> 25:05.480] And so the city council and the mayor of Irving, Texas, which I believe is up
[25:05.480 --> 25:11.360] in the Metroplex area, the Dallas-Fort Worth, Arlington area, they said no, no,
[25:11.360 --> 25:12.480] we're kicking you guys out.
[25:12.480 --> 25:14.720] And so they kicked Ickley out.
[25:14.720 --> 25:22.600] And so I hope many more communities, cities across this nation, both large and small,
[25:22.600 --> 25:28.120] kick Ickley out, and I hope many more state governments follow suit in line
[25:28.120 --> 25:30.600] with the Tennessee legislature.
[25:30.600 --> 25:35.760] And speaking of the Southern Poverty Law Center as well, Sheriff Mack,
[25:35.760 --> 25:41.240] he is suing the Southern Poverty Law Center right now after going round
[25:41.240 --> 25:44.360] and round with them because they called him anti-government
[25:44.360 --> 25:49.640] and they both said things in the media and in print.
[25:49.640 --> 25:54.120] And so he's suing them and they still have Sheriff Mack on their website.
[25:54.120 --> 25:57.480] I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
[25:57.480 --> 26:01.280] It just really is.
[26:01.280 --> 26:07.640] Randy, did we lose Randy again?
[26:07.640 --> 26:09.640] It would seem so, yes.
[26:09.640 --> 26:11.480] OK, I think you found me.
[26:11.480 --> 26:14.400] OK, OK, there you are.
[26:14.400 --> 26:21.040] I suspect there's a Southern Poverty Law Center is well-paid by SAM
[26:21.040 --> 26:24.960] to do exactly what they're doing.
[26:24.960 --> 26:30.040] Now, in deference to my complaint to them, I don't have evidence to prove that,
[26:30.040 --> 26:37.040] but I do have empirical evidence wherein they accused us of being part
[26:37.040 --> 26:46.240] of those groups that want to deny rights to the ordinary people.
[26:46.240 --> 26:50.400] And that's typical of propagandists.
[26:50.400 --> 26:55.440] They claim precisely the opposite of what you are.
[26:55.440 --> 26:59.440] And they would like very much for us to take them on.
[26:59.440 --> 27:01.240] You know, they get publicity.
[27:01.240 --> 27:03.200] They don't care.
[27:03.200 --> 27:06.880] And we'll get a little ourselves.
[27:06.880 --> 27:14.920] If we do a good job at them, we may actually get some traction.
[27:14.920 --> 27:22.640] But it just, it looked like a fight that needed to be fought.
[27:22.640 --> 27:24.000] Indeed.
[27:24.000 --> 27:27.040] OK, we've got a couple minutes left of this segment.
[27:27.040 --> 27:28.560] There is a caller on the line.
[27:28.560 --> 27:30.720] Do you want to go to the caller, Randy?
[27:30.720 --> 27:31.640] Or do you want to?
[27:31.640 --> 27:32.880] OK, all right.
[27:32.880 --> 27:35.560] It's Leslie in Pennsylvania.
[27:35.560 --> 27:37.200] Leslie, thank you for calling in.
[27:37.200 --> 27:41.000] What is your question or comment for us tonight?
[27:41.000 --> 27:45.480] Well, I just was talking to Randy the other day,
[27:45.480 --> 27:49.320] and we were discussing all of the stuff that's going on with MERS
[27:49.320 --> 27:52.400] and foreclosures and stuff like that.
[27:52.400 --> 27:57.400] And I found online that MERS even sued itself
[27:57.400 --> 28:01.560] and got chastised for it last week.
[28:01.560 --> 28:02.440] Wait a minute.
[28:02.440 --> 28:04.920] MERS sued itself?
[28:04.920 --> 28:06.880] Yeah.
[28:06.880 --> 28:09.320] I saw the document in Sydney where they said
[28:09.320 --> 28:12.920] MERS is posted to the defendant and the plaintiff,
[28:12.920 --> 28:15.000] but I didn't have time to look at it.
[28:15.000 --> 28:19.280] So how did MERS manage to sue itself?
[28:19.280 --> 28:21.600] Well, in the heading of the document,
[28:21.600 --> 28:27.200] they are, MERS is suing as nominee for lend America.
[28:27.200 --> 28:31.200] And it's sending, let me see, MERS as nominee for lend America
[28:31.200 --> 28:34.960] assigned the mortgage to central mortgage.
[28:34.960 --> 28:40.000] And the assignment states that the mortgage was made by defendant
[28:40.000 --> 28:42.400] Kaufman to MERS as nominee for...
[28:42.400 --> 28:44.280] It's really confusing.
[28:44.280 --> 28:48.720] But in the end, it said that neither the defendant's motion
[28:48.720 --> 28:51.960] was granted, they threw out the case.
[28:51.960 --> 28:56.040] Because they sued, they were both listed as the defense
[28:56.040 --> 28:59.720] and the defendant and the plaintiff.
[28:59.720 --> 29:05.360] I would very much like to see that one.
[29:05.360 --> 29:08.000] That's the one I sent you today.
[29:08.000 --> 29:11.200] But this was something I was going to speak to,
[29:11.200 --> 29:14.440] if my internet doesn't keep dropping out tonight,
[29:14.440 --> 29:16.720] is MERS and how they function.
[29:16.720 --> 29:17.800] And I'm glad you're on.
[29:17.800 --> 29:18.920] I hope you'll hang on.
[29:18.920 --> 29:20.040] We're about to go to break.
[29:20.040 --> 29:22.400] Well, hey, Randy, you know, if you speak out against MERS,
[29:22.400 --> 29:24.200] you're anti-government.
[29:24.200 --> 29:25.520] Uh-oh.
[29:25.520 --> 29:28.680] I'm just playing.
[29:28.680 --> 29:31.120] OK, well, anti-government, they didn't say anything
[29:31.120 --> 29:34.960] about being anti-corruption.
[29:34.960 --> 29:37.000] So I guess we are anti-corruption.
[29:37.000 --> 29:37.640] That's OK.
[29:37.640 --> 29:42.000] We just can't be against the ones that are corrupt.
[29:42.000 --> 29:44.360] OK, this is Randy Kelston, Denver Stevens,
[29:44.360 --> 29:46.920] Eddie Craig, we have a radio.
[29:46.920 --> 29:51.480] I'll call in number 512-646-1984.
[29:51.480 --> 29:55.040] We'll be right back and we're going to shred MERS.
[29:55.040 --> 29:57.840] Maybe they'll sue us.
[29:57.840 --> 30:00.640] They didn't do so themselves.
[30:00.640 --> 30:01.480] A noble lie.
[30:01.480 --> 30:04.640] Oklahoma City, 1995, will change forever the way
[30:04.640 --> 30:07.080] you look at the true nature of terrorism.
[30:07.080 --> 30:09.320] Based on the damage pattern to the building,
[30:09.320 --> 30:10.800] but the government says it's impossible.
[30:10.800 --> 30:14.520] The grand jury did not want to hear anything I had to say.
[30:14.520 --> 30:16.520] The decision was made not to pursue
[30:16.520 --> 30:18.200] any more of those individuals.
[30:18.200 --> 30:21.920] Some of these columns were ripped up, shredded, tossed
[30:21.920 --> 30:23.000] around.
[30:23.000 --> 30:24.680] The people that did the things they did
[30:24.680 --> 30:26.640] knew going on well what they were doing.
[30:26.640 --> 30:29.640] Expose the cover-up now at enobleye.com.
[30:32.760 --> 30:35.440] To wage war, you need three things, money, money,
[30:35.440 --> 30:36.800] and yet more money.
[30:36.800 --> 30:39.800] So said John Jacopo Travolzio, a military leader
[30:39.800 --> 30:41.200] from the 1400s.
[30:41.200 --> 30:43.160] But modern war has new costs.
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[30:45.040 --> 30:46.400] in just a moment.
[30:46.400 --> 30:48.360] Privacy is under attack.
[30:48.360 --> 30:50.240] When you give up data about yourself,
[30:50.240 --> 30:51.960] you'll never get it back again.
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[30:55.120 --> 30:56.760] will start to vanish too.
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[31:31.040 --> 31:32.920] But there's another casualty of modern war
[31:32.920 --> 31:35.640] that's just as costly, our civil liberties.
[31:35.640 --> 31:37.560] And sadly, the destruction of our rights
[31:37.560 --> 31:41.080] has been carried out by the very people we elected to serve us.
[31:41.080 --> 31:43.760] Destroying our guaranteed freedoms in the name of security
[31:43.760 --> 31:45.760] is a victory for our enemies.
[31:45.760 --> 31:48.440] We need to remind Congress why America is worth fighting
[31:48.440 --> 31:49.840] for in the first place.
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[32:03.160 --> 32:09.120] Yes, Mr. Albrecht, I was taking the light ahead.
[32:09.120 --> 32:13.120] I want you to follow the law of the land.
[32:13.120 --> 32:15.600] I don't understand.
[32:15.600 --> 32:21.160] The job is to protect our service, not to speak, not to use.
[32:21.160 --> 32:22.640] How's this work?
[32:22.640 --> 32:23.880] OK, we're back.
[32:23.880 --> 32:24.760] My name is Kelton.
[32:24.760 --> 32:26.000] I'm Debra Stevenson, J.D. Craig.
[32:26.000 --> 32:28.040] We're using our radio.
[32:28.040 --> 32:36.480] And we were talking about MERS and suing themselves.
[32:36.480 --> 32:40.120] And there is a subject that I wanted to talk about tonight
[32:40.120 --> 32:43.640] was MERS, not necessarily them suing themselves.
[32:43.640 --> 32:45.280] But it's MERS.
[32:45.280 --> 32:50.800] I think it's the name of the thing on the case.
[32:50.800 --> 32:55.360] I will try to read through that document before tomorrow's show.
[32:55.360 --> 32:56.880] But I've been looking at MERS.
[32:56.880 --> 32:58.520] And Leslie, I'm glad you're there
[32:58.520 --> 33:02.680] because I have an interesting question.
[33:02.680 --> 33:04.920] The deed of trust.
[33:04.920 --> 33:08.520] That's a trust created by the borrower,
[33:08.520 --> 33:12.520] wherein the borrower establishes a trust,
[33:12.520 --> 33:20.080] appoints a trustee, and appoints the lender
[33:20.080 --> 33:24.040] as the beneficiary of the trust.
[33:24.040 --> 33:28.080] And in Jimlinson chapter, in paragraph 20,
[33:28.080 --> 33:31.600] but sometimes it varies between 19 and 20,
[33:31.600 --> 33:36.040] of the deed of trust, these are all pretty well standard
[33:36.040 --> 33:40.880] documents because they are HUD standard forms.
[33:40.880 --> 33:47.840] In those chapters, it says that the trustee
[33:47.840 --> 33:52.040] or that the beneficiary is authorized
[33:52.040 --> 33:59.240] to sell the note or a portion of the note
[33:59.240 --> 34:05.160] together with this security instrument.
[34:05.160 --> 34:10.720] Now, that was your authorization to the trustee.
[34:10.720 --> 34:13.920] And to the lender that they could sell it.
[34:13.920 --> 34:18.760] Now, the lender can sell or assign, or he can sell,
[34:18.760 --> 34:23.320] but it is the trustee who has the power to assign,
[34:23.320 --> 34:29.320] not the lender or the lender's nominee.
[34:29.320 --> 34:34.160] So nominee simply means agent.
[34:34.160 --> 34:35.720] They want it to mean something else.
[34:35.720 --> 34:38.480] And MERS pretends like it means more than that,
[34:38.480 --> 34:41.760] but it doesn't, it means agent.
[34:41.760 --> 34:46.720] The agent cannot transfer the deed of trust.
[34:46.720 --> 34:49.840] Only the trustee can do that.
[34:49.840 --> 34:53.480] Well, there was a case that was heard in the Supreme Court
[34:53.480 --> 34:57.280] of Washington, which is also a trustee state.
[34:57.280 --> 35:00.120] And they haven't come back with a decision yet,
[35:00.120 --> 35:02.840] but it was very telling.
[35:02.840 --> 35:04.320] I sent you a link to that.
[35:04.320 --> 35:07.160] I watched it live, and I thought they were coming back.
[35:07.160 --> 35:09.080] And then they said, oh, it's all done.
[35:09.080 --> 35:11.680] It lasted almost 40 minutes.
[35:11.680 --> 35:16.600] But what happened was when MERS had their lawyer up there,
[35:16.600 --> 35:19.000] and the judges started asking questions like,
[35:19.000 --> 35:20.720] who owns the note in these two cases?
[35:20.720 --> 35:25.400] And he started stammering and stuttering for three minutes.
[35:25.400 --> 35:28.240] It was so funny.
[35:28.240 --> 35:31.040] So did he ever state who owns it?
[35:31.040 --> 35:34.360] No, he said basically he didn't know.
[35:34.360 --> 35:39.720] OK, so then he should be able to tell easy enough
[35:39.720 --> 35:43.760] because they are only allowed to sell the note
[35:43.760 --> 35:49.160] along with the security instrument, the deed of trust.
[35:49.160 --> 35:52.440] So wherever the deed of trust is,
[35:52.440 --> 35:55.520] the note should absolutely be there.
[35:55.520 --> 35:57.240] But it isn't.
[35:57.240 --> 35:59.440] Did they have a problem?
[35:59.440 --> 36:03.640] Then the thing to do is fire the trustee
[36:03.640 --> 36:06.640] and move the local court to render
[36:06.640 --> 36:10.520] any notice of assignment in the county record
[36:10.520 --> 36:15.600] as void, as in violation of the deed of trust.
[36:15.600 --> 36:20.480] Well, that was the big question, is can MERS be a trustee?
[36:20.480 --> 36:25.480] Or can MERS be a beneficiary under their law?
[36:25.480 --> 36:30.800] They probably can be a trustee, but they
[36:30.800 --> 36:33.400] have to be appointed trustee.
[36:33.400 --> 36:40.480] Now, what the court was asked this question,
[36:40.480 --> 36:42.920] a certified question that was sent to the Supreme Court
[36:42.920 --> 36:44.720] of Washington.
[36:44.720 --> 36:48.200] And the big question was, is can MERS
[36:48.200 --> 36:53.000] be a beneficiary on the deed of trust, period?
[36:53.000 --> 36:56.440] That is a good question because we've
[36:56.440 --> 37:00.040] had a number of decisions in a number of the states that
[37:00.040 --> 37:04.400] says, without a beneficial interest in the note,
[37:04.400 --> 37:06.280] no, they cannot.
[37:06.280 --> 37:11.040] Now, you can't create the beneficiary of nothing.
[37:11.040 --> 37:12.240] Exactly.
[37:12.240 --> 37:14.920] So they're only an agent.
[37:14.920 --> 37:15.480] Right.
[37:15.480 --> 37:17.840] And when the judges were asking the questions,
[37:17.840 --> 37:19.720] you could see where they were going with this.
[37:19.720 --> 37:21.800] And I don't think it's going to look good for MERS
[37:21.800 --> 37:23.760] in this Washington case.
[37:23.760 --> 37:25.040] Oh, that is good news.
[37:25.040 --> 37:31.440] I think it looks like, with so much pressure coming on,
[37:31.440 --> 37:34.320] that the courts are finally in a position
[37:34.320 --> 37:36.160] to where it's clear to them they are going
[37:36.160 --> 37:39.160] to have to change what they're doing.
[37:39.160 --> 37:43.200] Well, in Pechlenia, I have my case.
[37:43.200 --> 37:47.840] And I bring up the point that MERS,
[37:47.840 --> 37:51.160] in my case, I got a MERS milestone report
[37:51.160 --> 37:54.760] because I sued my original lender.
[37:54.760 --> 37:57.240] And the original lender sent back this report saying,
[37:57.240 --> 38:01.640] we haven't owned this loan more than 29 days.
[38:01.640 --> 38:05.360] We got rid of it in 2007.
[38:05.360 --> 38:11.440] So in the state of Pennsylvania, an assignment of mortgage,
[38:11.440 --> 38:15.080] because we're in a judicial state,
[38:15.080 --> 38:20.760] the assignment of mortgage must be recorded within 90 days,
[38:20.760 --> 38:24.920] or it is fraudulent and void against all creditors
[38:24.920 --> 38:28.360] or purchasers of the property.
[38:28.360 --> 38:30.880] And it has to be.
[38:30.880 --> 38:34.840] All assignments must be recorded within six months,
[38:34.840 --> 38:38.680] which means that, at least the way I see it,
[38:38.680 --> 38:43.800] that if they don't record it until 90 days,
[38:43.800 --> 38:47.360] that they could still use it to foreclose,
[38:47.360 --> 38:52.760] but they can't foreclose against other creditors.
[38:52.760 --> 38:56.360] You know, if you get a second mortgage on your property,
[38:56.360 --> 38:58.400] then they can't foreclose against them,
[38:58.400 --> 39:03.600] but they can foreclose against the house owner.
[39:03.600 --> 39:05.640] Well, now, wait a minute.
[39:05.640 --> 39:11.520] If your deed of trust is similar to ours,
[39:11.520 --> 39:13.680] you have a mortgage or a deed of trust?
[39:13.680 --> 39:15.000] Mortgage.
[39:15.000 --> 39:18.560] How is the mortgage different than a deed of trust?
[39:18.560 --> 39:25.000] It's more like a contract that says we will pay on the note
[39:25.000 --> 39:26.320] as provided.
[39:26.320 --> 39:29.160] The wording is similar to a deed of trust,
[39:29.160 --> 39:32.040] but the way it's used is different.
[39:32.040 --> 39:35.120] It's a lien put against your house.
[39:35.120 --> 39:38.920] They own nothing until they go to the court
[39:38.920 --> 39:42.680] and say that you haven't been paying,
[39:42.680 --> 39:45.160] and they get a judgment and foreclose.
[39:45.160 --> 39:46.960] They can't do anything else than that.
[39:46.960 --> 39:50.080] So that's a lien like any other lien?
[39:50.080 --> 39:51.680] A lien like any other lien.
[39:51.680 --> 39:54.280] So you don't have a trustee then?
[39:54.280 --> 39:56.360] No.
[39:56.360 --> 40:00.720] If in six months they don't record it, they can't record it.
[40:00.720 --> 40:04.360] It's not enforceable against anyone.
[40:04.360 --> 40:04.920] Oh, OK.
[40:04.920 --> 40:13.920] So who can record it?
[40:13.920 --> 40:15.040] Well, who can record it?
[40:15.040 --> 40:20.800] It has to be a person with a beneficial interest in the loan.
[40:20.800 --> 40:25.680] Is there a similar restriction against bifurcating the note
[40:25.680 --> 40:27.560] in the security instrument?
[40:27.560 --> 40:29.440] Yes.
[40:29.440 --> 40:31.880] Is that in the mortgage?
[40:31.880 --> 40:36.920] No, well, in my mortgage it is bifurcated.
[40:36.920 --> 40:41.760] They said the mortgage was made out to MERS as a nominee,
[40:41.760 --> 40:46.000] and the loan note has nothing about MERS on it,
[40:46.000 --> 40:51.240] and it was the beneficial interest went to GMAC.
[40:51.240 --> 40:56.480] Well, then MERS is appointed as an agent for GMAC.
[40:56.480 --> 40:59.160] No, as mortgage IT.
[40:59.160 --> 41:01.680] Mortgage IT was the original lender.
[41:01.680 --> 41:08.600] Does the language of the mortgage state that the lender,
[41:08.600 --> 41:15.000] that the original lender can sell a part or all of the note
[41:15.000 --> 41:16.680] one or more times?
[41:16.680 --> 41:19.880] Yes.
[41:19.880 --> 41:22.800] But see, the thing is, is that they're using MERS
[41:22.800 --> 41:26.280] as a placeholder, but the way we're arguing is, number one,
[41:26.280 --> 41:29.920] all assignments must be recorded by Pennsylvania law.
[41:29.920 --> 41:32.040] What I think they're doing is they're
[41:32.040 --> 41:35.360] doing an assignment in blank.
[41:35.360 --> 41:40.240] And this is an issue that I need to brief out,
[41:40.240 --> 41:43.880] because I think it's a real good place to go.
[41:43.880 --> 41:48.520] If the assignment is in blank, they find nothing.
[41:48.520 --> 41:52.080] Right, then there is no holder.
[41:52.080 --> 41:55.840] And they do that so that they can sell the note back and forth
[41:55.840 --> 41:58.680] and not register to sale with the clerk of the court.
[41:58.680 --> 42:06.200] Well, my position is, is if at the time of default,
[42:06.200 --> 42:13.960] the mortgage is in blank, there is no holder to make the claim.
[42:13.960 --> 42:19.760] If someone endorses the mortgage after default,
[42:19.760 --> 42:24.400] then defaults already occurred, and they purchased the mortgage
[42:24.400 --> 42:29.000] already in default, so they don't get to complain about it.
[42:29.000 --> 42:29.960] Right.
[42:29.960 --> 42:34.200] And what do you do in purchasing a mortgage that's in default?
[42:34.200 --> 42:39.440] So my point about that is, is you can leave it in blank
[42:39.440 --> 42:40.440] if you want to.
[42:40.440 --> 42:45.280] Us, it appears as though that's perfectly legal.
[42:45.280 --> 42:49.200] But in law, it's legal to screw yourself.
[42:49.200 --> 42:56.320] So you do put it in blank, and then don't report the assignments
[42:56.320 --> 43:00.320] to the county recorder, I guess in your case,
[43:00.320 --> 43:01.960] it would be the prothonitory.
[43:01.960 --> 43:07.360] Then you can do that, I suppose, but then when you try to come
[43:07.360 --> 43:11.880] to the court to adjudicate the documents, now you have a problem.
[43:11.880 --> 43:12.880] Right.
[43:12.880 --> 43:16.200] See, right now, they cannot come.
[43:16.200 --> 43:19.600] Nobody can come and assign my mortgage.
[43:19.600 --> 43:23.600] Because, number one, MERS no longer represents the lender,
[43:23.600 --> 43:26.600] because the lender has already said, we don't own the loan.
[43:26.600 --> 43:31.200] Yes, so MERS was an agent for that lender, and we have a case
[43:31.200 --> 43:33.200] here in Texas dead on point.
[43:33.200 --> 43:35.600] Okay, hang on, we're about to go to break.
[43:35.600 --> 43:38.760] This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephen, Debbie Craig,
[43:38.760 --> 43:42.600] we're on the radio, we're talking to Leslie in Pennsylvania,
[43:42.600 --> 43:47.600] and Robin connected, I see there, we'll pick you up on the other side.
[43:47.600 --> 43:52.600] Our calling number, 512-646-1984.
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[46:22.600 --> 46:51.600] I would suggest that everybody get a QWR off to their servicer and request their MERS
[46:51.600 --> 46:55.600] milestone report and MINS summary.
[46:55.600 --> 46:56.600] Okay.
[46:56.600 --> 47:00.600] Explain what is MERS milestone report.
[47:00.600 --> 47:10.600] The milestone report shows all the transfers of your loans, and they hold on to that like it was pure gold.
[47:10.600 --> 47:16.600] But if they fail to give it to you within 30 days, it's going to cost them a couple grand
[47:16.600 --> 47:22.600] because you can file a RESPA suit against them.
[47:22.600 --> 47:27.600] So I haven't seen anything in RESPA concerning that.
[47:27.600 --> 47:36.600] Well, where they say you can file a QWR if they don't answer it, if they don't acknowledge it in 20 days,
[47:36.600 --> 47:42.600] it costs them, if they don't respond and say we got it in 20 days, in five days, I'm sorry,
[47:42.600 --> 47:46.600] they change it in five days, it's a $2,000 fine.
[47:46.600 --> 47:54.600] If they don't answer it completely in 30 days, it's a $2,000 fine.
[47:54.600 --> 47:59.600] That's great because that will put you in the federal court and stick you there.
[47:59.600 --> 48:00.600] Yes.
[48:00.600 --> 48:01.600] Okay.
[48:01.600 --> 48:05.600] Our call board is really lighting up.
[48:05.600 --> 48:06.600] Yes.
[48:06.600 --> 48:13.600] And Leslie, will you call us back tomorrow night, I would like to do a more extensive show on this issue.
[48:13.600 --> 48:16.600] I will try, like I explained to you, I'm going into...
[48:16.600 --> 48:19.600] Oh, that's right, you're busy on Friday.
[48:19.600 --> 48:25.600] Yes, they'll have those grandkids that are the apple of my eye.
[48:25.600 --> 48:30.600] No problem, get them lots of chocolate.
[48:30.600 --> 48:37.600] Well, the reason I said get their milestone report is because when you get that, you've got ammunition,
[48:37.600 --> 48:43.600] there's nobody that can file an assignment of mortgage in my case without fraud because they do...
[48:43.600 --> 48:47.600] Mer's no longer represents mortgage IT, I can prove it.
[48:47.600 --> 48:54.600] So if somebody was to go there and say, oh, Mer's has assigned this to city mortgage this year,
[48:54.600 --> 48:56.600] we'll say there's fraud there.
[48:56.600 --> 48:59.600] Okay, let me offer you a suggestion.
[48:59.600 --> 49:06.600] I did some work in Pennsylvania a couple of years back and I looked at Pennsylvania law.
[49:06.600 --> 49:10.600] You might want to generate a little politics.
[49:10.600 --> 49:14.600] You might accuse the lender of fraud.
[49:14.600 --> 49:15.600] I did.
[49:15.600 --> 49:17.600] I did already.
[49:17.600 --> 49:22.600] Take your complaint to the prosecuting attorney.
[49:22.600 --> 49:28.600] In Pennsylvania, the prosecuting attorney is given prosecutorial discretion.
[49:28.600 --> 49:38.600] He can determine whether or not he believes there's sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution.
[49:38.600 --> 49:46.600] But what he's not given power to do is exercise prosecutorial caprice.
[49:46.600 --> 49:52.600] He may not determine who he wants to prosecute and who he doesn't.
[49:52.600 --> 50:01.600] So in unlike Texas where in the matter of a criminal complaint, we have a duty to file it.
[50:01.600 --> 50:03.600] We have no standing.
[50:03.600 --> 50:06.600] In Pennsylvania, you have standing.
[50:06.600 --> 50:12.600] So if the prosecuting attorney refuses to prosecute, you can appeal to the...
[50:12.600 --> 50:15.600] I think your lowest court there is the Supreme Court, isn't it?
[50:15.600 --> 50:18.600] No, no, no, you're just the...
[50:18.600 --> 50:20.600] What's your lowest court?
[50:20.600 --> 50:21.600] The Superior Court.
[50:21.600 --> 50:24.600] Superior Court. That's what I knew, but somehow backwards.
[50:24.600 --> 50:28.600] It's New York that has the Supreme as the lowest court.
[50:28.600 --> 50:36.600] You can appeal to the Superior Court and all the way up to the Supreme.
[50:36.600 --> 50:44.600] So what I suggest you do is you file a complaint with the prosecutor that you know he won't accept.
[50:44.600 --> 50:53.600] But then you file an appeal to the Superior Court and you file a complaint against the prosecutor with the State Attorney General.
[50:53.600 --> 50:58.600] State Attorney General in Pennsylvania has prosecutorial authority.
[50:58.600 --> 51:04.600] And he will exercise discretion and refuse to prosecute the prosecutor.
[51:04.600 --> 51:12.600] And then you appeal the Attorney General's refusal to the Superior Court.
[51:12.600 --> 51:18.600] And you walk them all through the courts and you can walk it all the way up to the Supreme.
[51:18.600 --> 51:23.600] And all you're doing this whole time is blacking their eyes.
[51:23.600 --> 51:27.600] I've already had them in court for over a year already.
[51:27.600 --> 51:30.600] On the criminal side or just the civil?
[51:30.600 --> 51:40.600] No, no. On the civil side, for fraud, I did a rescission for fraud, for all kinds of different frauds.
[51:40.600 --> 51:45.600] When we sent in our QWR, they came back and lied to us.
[51:45.600 --> 51:51.600] They actually lied to us. Four different times and four different questions.
[51:51.600 --> 51:52.600] Wonderful.
[51:52.600 --> 51:56.600] We didn't find it out until we sued the lender.
[51:56.600 --> 52:02.600] That's when I dropped the case against that lender and sued the rest of them.
[52:02.600 --> 52:06.600] So have you filed criminally against them?
[52:06.600 --> 52:09.600] No, I haven't filed criminally, but that's...
[52:09.600 --> 52:13.600] That is what will get you politics.
[52:13.600 --> 52:14.600] Okay.
[52:14.600 --> 52:22.600] You get political pressure against the lender because now you're going after officials who were just doing their job.
[52:22.600 --> 52:29.600] And now you're making them look like scumbags and blacking their eyes and they're not going to like it.
[52:29.600 --> 52:30.600] Right.
[52:30.600 --> 52:34.600] When the Attorney General crawls down the prosecutor's throat and tells him,
[52:34.600 --> 52:45.600] well, it doesn't look better, I'm going to have to run for reelection and I suspect my opponent is going to drag out all of these criminal accusations against me.
[52:45.600 --> 52:51.600] So if I get any more of them, I just may go ahead and prosecute you.
[52:51.600 --> 52:54.600] Now, would I go to keep a county prosecutor?
[52:54.600 --> 52:55.600] Yeah.
[52:55.600 --> 52:56.600] Okay.
[52:56.600 --> 53:03.600] And tell, you know, then he's going to go to the lender and say, look, these people are coming after my job.
[53:03.600 --> 53:06.600] You better make this go away.
[53:06.600 --> 53:13.600] You will not win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[53:13.600 --> 53:18.600] We will win your case if you can get the politics on your side.
[53:18.600 --> 53:21.600] Well, talking about politics, that was the other thing.
[53:21.600 --> 53:27.600] I don't know if you saw that I sent a system for the county recorder to use.
[53:27.600 --> 53:34.600] I have put our expenditure up in Harrisburg on notice that this is what we want.
[53:34.600 --> 53:40.600] And all of the county recorders have a copy of it, the suggested process.
[53:40.600 --> 53:46.600] And I had sent it to Nancy Backer and she sent it to all the recorders in the state.
[53:46.600 --> 53:52.600] And what it would do is, is if somebody came in and they wanted to find out about their mortgage,
[53:52.600 --> 53:59.600] they would file a paper with a county recorder and she would send an inquiry to MERS.
[53:59.600 --> 54:09.600] And then she would, if they would send it back and you can check online and find out who it says there is your lender.
[54:09.600 --> 54:21.600] And if 90 days later, it's not, it's the same person and there is no recording in there that they could be able to strike and void your mortgage.
[54:21.600 --> 54:32.600] Or give you quiet title against any other claim except your original lender who doesn't, who doesn't have one.
[54:32.600 --> 54:43.600] If they're the only ones showing as the lender, then the court, if you could give them to grant quiet title against any other claims,
[54:43.600 --> 54:47.600] that should be fairly easy for them because they don't exist.
[54:47.600 --> 54:53.600] And they should, they should be here recording and if they're not, they come to the court with unclean hands.
[54:53.600 --> 54:59.600] If you could give them to grant quiet title against those claims because they didn't report them.
[54:59.600 --> 55:06.600] Right. So if anybody tries to get an assignment and mortgage on my mortgage, what's going to be in jail?
[55:06.600 --> 55:13.600] Because I'll file criminal charges for filing of things in the recorder's office, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[55:13.600 --> 55:19.600] Good mother. Okay. We need, I need to move ahead. We really got stacked up on the callers.
[55:19.600 --> 55:21.600] I'll try to show you tomorrow.
[55:21.600 --> 55:24.600] If you can call tomorrow, that would be great. We'll have a lot more time.
[55:24.600 --> 55:25.600] Okay.
[55:25.600 --> 55:34.600] Okay. Thank you, Leslie. Okay. Now we're going to go to Rob in Connecticut.
[55:34.600 --> 55:35.600] Hello, Rob.
[55:35.600 --> 55:36.600] Hi.
[55:36.600 --> 55:38.600] I hear you have an issue.
[55:38.600 --> 55:40.600] Hey, Cousin Randy, how you doing?
[55:40.600 --> 55:41.600] I'm doing good.
[55:41.600 --> 55:47.600] Okay. Anyway, yeah, this happened not even four hours ago this evening.
[55:47.600 --> 55:58.600] And it started when I went to a gas station to get some gas and I entered the store to purchase the gasoline.
[55:58.600 --> 56:05.600] And upon doing so, I noticed a woman standing in the middle of the floor with a small dog on a leash in the store.
[56:05.600 --> 56:11.600] There were at least two other people in line in front of me waiting to conduct their transactions with the cashier.
[56:11.600 --> 56:18.600] As I stood in line behind the other customers, I noticed that the dog was right next to me and was sniffing my lower leg.
[56:18.600 --> 56:22.600] You know, just some little mud on a leash.
[56:22.600 --> 56:26.600] And, you know, I don't hate animals actually, like dogs, but I wasn't there to, you know, play with dogs.
[56:26.600 --> 56:28.600] I was there to buy some gasoline.
[56:28.600 --> 56:35.600] So I stepped a few feet away from the dog as much as I could do so while remaining in line behind the other customers.
[56:35.600 --> 56:38.600] Then the dog approached me a second time.
[56:38.600 --> 56:43.600] Even though I moved away, the lady was controlling it on the leash and started sniffing me again.
[56:43.600 --> 56:47.600] So I said to the lady, keep your dog away from me.
[56:47.600 --> 56:50.600] It's bad enough that you brought it into the store.
[56:50.600 --> 56:52.600] And the woman flipped out.
[56:52.600 --> 56:55.600] She started yelling at me while I was paying for my gasoline.
[56:55.600 --> 56:58.600] She goes, you can't talk to me that way. This is a service dog.
[56:58.600 --> 57:00.600] And I can bring him in here if I want.
[57:00.600 --> 57:02.600] I didn't even acknowledge her.
[57:02.600 --> 57:05.600] I just turned and walked out the door and pumped my gas.
[57:05.600 --> 57:07.600] And then I left.
[57:07.600 --> 57:11.600] So I'm driving along and I noticed that this car is now following me.
[57:11.600 --> 57:14.600] And I'm going up into the next town.
[57:14.600 --> 57:15.600] It's still following me.
[57:15.600 --> 57:19.600] And I took a bunch of different roads and it just kept following me.
[57:19.600 --> 57:21.600] I finally turned on a dead-end road, which I didn't know.
[57:21.600 --> 57:23.600] I didn't really know where I was.
[57:23.600 --> 57:25.600] I turned around a driveway and it pulled into a driveway.
[57:25.600 --> 57:27.600] Yeah, and sure enough, it was the tube.
[57:27.600 --> 57:29.600] It was that lady and another lady in the car.
[57:29.600 --> 57:31.600] And I could actually see the dog in the car.
[57:31.600 --> 57:34.600] So I drove around, got back out onto the main road there.
[57:34.600 --> 57:39.600] And then I drove a couple more miles and I pulled into a driveway of a vacant house.
[57:39.600 --> 57:42.600] And then I got out of the car.
[57:42.600 --> 57:44.600] And I saw the license plate.
[57:44.600 --> 57:46.600] It took no license plate.
[57:46.600 --> 57:50.600] And as I approached the car, it backed out into the street.
[57:50.600 --> 57:54.600] And it said, what I did was illegal and they had it on tape.
[57:54.600 --> 57:57.600] And I said, what are you talking about?
[57:57.600 --> 58:03.600] She alleged that I kicked her dog and that they were reporting it to the police.
[58:03.600 --> 58:10.600] Well, good, because you've got the witness of the store clerk to subpoena,
[58:10.600 --> 58:14.600] to testify that that did not happen.
[58:14.600 --> 58:17.600] Well, yeah, well, I don't know if that's her friend or not.
[58:17.600 --> 58:20.600] And that's why she's in the store talking to her friend working there.
[58:20.600 --> 58:25.600] But anyway, there's a couple more things that happened.
[58:25.600 --> 58:28.600] Okay, we'll pick this up on the other side.
[58:28.600 --> 58:33.600] This is Randy Kelton there with Steven Z. Craig with La Radio.
[58:33.600 --> 58:36.600] When we come back, we do need to move along.
[58:36.600 --> 58:42.600] So kind of shorten it up as much as you can.
[58:42.600 --> 58:46.600] Okay, our calling number is 512-646-1984.
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[01:03:42.600 --> 01:03:48.600] The Rule of Law radio. We're talking to Rob in Connecticut.
[01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:51.600] Okay, you said there was another issue.
[01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:57.600] Okay, yeah. So at that point they told me that I allegedly kicked her dog
[01:03:57.600 --> 01:04:01.600] and that they were going to report to the police. They said they had five witnesses.
[01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:07.600] And I said, oh, that's fine because I'll be subpoenaing the gas station surveillance videos to show otherwise.
[01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:13.600] And I also said that I would pursue my own legal remedies if they tried to do anything like that to me.
[01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:21.600] So then I called 911 on my cell phone to report I was being followed and harassed.
[01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:26.600] And I spoke to Connecticut State Trooper and explained what was happening.
[01:04:26.600 --> 01:04:31.600] These strange people were following me and just harassing me.
[01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:35.600] The trooper told me to call another number and he read it off real quick because it was an emergency.
[01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:38.600] And I didn't remember it. I wasn't able to write it down.
[01:04:38.600 --> 01:04:43.600] And at that point I walked behind their car to read the license plate number to the trooper.
[01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:49.600] And as I started reading the number, I saw the white backup lights on the car come on and the car started backing up towards me.
[01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:53.600] So I stepped out of the way. I stepped to the side or else it was going to hit me.
[01:04:53.600 --> 01:04:56.600] And I told the trooper the license plate number would be fitting.
[01:04:56.600 --> 01:04:59.600] And again, he told me, no, call this other number.
[01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:02.600] So I walked back up to where my car was parked.
[01:05:02.600 --> 01:05:05.600] And then the lady in the car started yelling at me some more.
[01:05:05.600 --> 01:05:08.600] Oh, now I know where you live and the police are going to come looking for me.
[01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:11.600] So I just...
[01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:15.600] Are you sure that wasn't my mother-in-law?
[01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:19.600] I don't know, but that's where I stand now.
[01:05:19.600 --> 01:05:25.600] So what would you do to start things off here?
[01:05:25.600 --> 01:05:31.600] And my main concern is how would I get a hold of those gas station surveillance videos?
[01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:37.600] Just you could make a request for it from the gas station itself.
[01:05:37.600 --> 01:05:38.600] Uh-huh.
[01:05:38.600 --> 01:05:44.600] And but, you know, the likelihood of them doing anything somewhere between little and none,
[01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:50.600] you might go to the police department and make a report of what occurred.
[01:05:50.600 --> 01:05:51.600] Yeah.
[01:05:51.600 --> 01:05:56.600] That, you know, it's not that you were harmed or anything,
[01:05:56.600 --> 01:06:02.600] but you're concerned that these people may be a little, you know, out of kilture.
[01:06:02.600 --> 01:06:03.600] Off.
[01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:07.600] Well, it's illegal to stalk people like that in most states.
[01:06:07.600 --> 01:06:12.600] I mean, you could file a criminal complaint against this woman for stalking you.
[01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:13.600] Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[01:06:13.600 --> 01:06:18.600] I mean, you can't just go around and just follow people and stalk them
[01:06:18.600 --> 01:06:23.600] because you're mad at them because they told you to get your dog away from them.
[01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:25.600] I mean, it's ridiculous.
[01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:26.600] Well, now wait a minute.
[01:06:26.600 --> 01:06:31.600] Does that same rule apply to ex-girlfriends and wives?
[01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:33.600] And wives are ex-wives.
[01:06:33.600 --> 01:06:34.600] I think stalking is illegal.
[01:06:34.600 --> 01:06:37.600] Well, in some cases, it may be both.
[01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:40.600] And also, the backing up the car tours me.
[01:06:40.600 --> 01:06:43.600] Isn't there some form of assault with a deadly weapon?
[01:06:43.600 --> 01:06:49.600] No, not unless you backed up quickly and you had to jump out of the way quickly.
[01:06:49.600 --> 01:06:52.600] If she backed up slowly, that's not going to be an assault.
[01:06:52.600 --> 01:06:57.600] You should have gotten out your camera and your audio recording device
[01:06:57.600 --> 01:07:01.600] or video recording device and videotaped that whole encounter.
[01:07:01.600 --> 01:07:05.600] People, this is why you have to have either a smartphone
[01:07:05.600 --> 01:07:10.600] or some kind of at least a pocket audio recording device
[01:07:10.600 --> 01:07:16.600] and take it with you everywhere you go for exactly for reasons like this
[01:07:16.600 --> 01:07:22.600] so that you can prove that people, somebody's following you
[01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:24.600] or harassing you or this or that.
[01:07:24.600 --> 01:07:32.600] Case in point, I have a friend of mine who got rear-ended in a parking lot
[01:07:32.600 --> 01:07:36.600] and was trying to pull out and take a right turn onto the street
[01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:40.600] where the parking lot of a public place got rear-ended.
[01:07:40.600 --> 01:07:44.600] The car that rear-ended him, as soon as he rear-ended him,
[01:07:44.600 --> 01:07:47.600] backed up and went around him to the left
[01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:50.600] and took a right turn out into traffic in front of him.
[01:07:50.600 --> 01:07:55.600] So my friend followed him, got out his smartphone
[01:07:55.600 --> 01:08:01.600] and took pictures of the guy from behind from the license plate number
[01:08:01.600 --> 01:08:05.600] and took photographs of the, pulled up alongside him
[01:08:05.600 --> 01:08:10.600] and got a photograph of the damage to the front of the car that hit him,
[01:08:10.600 --> 01:08:13.600] took pictures of his own car, the damage,
[01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:17.600] and then looked up, was able to look up the license plate number
[01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.600] through various, you know, there are various different services on the Internet
[01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:26.600] that you can subscribe to to look up and see who's a vehicle is registered to
[01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:30.600] and sent the guy basically a very nice tort letter.
[01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:34.600] He said, repair my damages.
[01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.600] And he said, I'm going to, you know, I'm trying to be nice here
[01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:40.600] and I don't want to get the authorities involved.
[01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:42.600] I don't want to get the police involved,
[01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.600] but I need you to repair my car and pay for the damages
[01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.600] so that we don't have to get the police involved.
[01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:50.600] And if he doesn't hear back from him,
[01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:55.600] and within like 10 business days, he's going to send him a toy letter
[01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:58.600] and if that doesn't work, he's going to sue him
[01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:00.600] and file a criminal complaint for a hit and run.
[01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:06.600] So folks, this is, examples like these,
[01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:12.600] you have to carry around audio and video recording devices with you everywhere you go
[01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.600] because you never know when somebody's going to hit and run
[01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.600] and you just need the evidence for a civil suit.
[01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.600] You never know when things like this are going to happen with Rob
[01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:25.600] or most of the time the reason you would need it is for dealings with the police
[01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:28.600] and that's why I strongly advise everyone to get a smart phone
[01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.600] like an Android or an iPhone.
[01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:32.600] There's dozens of different types of smart phones
[01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:36.600] where you can install an app called Quick QIK.
[01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:39.600] You can go to that at qik.com
[01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.600] and with a smart phone with your internet access,
[01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.600] you can videotape with your phone
[01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:51.600] and it streams real time to the internet, to your account,
[01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:53.600] posts it on the web immediately
[01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:58.600] and so even if somebody like the police or even just a private person
[01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:02.600] grabs your phone and smashes it to try to destroy the evidence,
[01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:06.600] too late it's already been streamed to the internet real time you've already got the evidence.
[01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:08.600] So folks, we have to fight fire with fire.
[01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.600] We live in this age of technology, we've got to have the technology to fight back.
[01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.600] Yeah, the thing is I had my cell phone out to call 911
[01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.600] but I didn't start recording with it.
[01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.600] Yeah.
[01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.600] But anyway, so yeah, so...
[01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.600] You should at least file some sort of police report, Rob,
[01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.600] to have it on the record that this stalking event happened
[01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:31.600] and, you know, just to have it on record.
[01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.600] The police haven't come after you yet, right?
[01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.600] So far so good.
[01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:37.600] I doubt that they're going to do anything
[01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.600] but it still may be a good idea to file something with the police anyway
[01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.600] to have something on record.
[01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:46.600] And you may want to put in a request to the gas station to ask for the videotape.
[01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:51.600] Yeah, I already sent a note on their website to their corporate headquarters
[01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:57.600] slightly saying that something happened and I want to talk to them some more about it.
[01:10:57.600 --> 01:10:59.600] All right, Rob, thank you for calling.
[01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:00.600] Good luck.
[01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:01.600] Yeah, thanks.
[01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.600] Okay.
[01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:08.600] Okay, now we're going to go to Steve in Arkansas.
[01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:10.600] Hi.
[01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:12.600] There you go.
[01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:14.600] So what's up, Steve?
[01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:16.600] So, well, hold on to nothing.
[01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.600] I had a question.
[01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:23.600] No, about six months ago, I had received two tickets in under seven and a half minutes
[01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.600] with Anchorage Police Department.
[01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:30.600] Now, I was able to successfully defend myself using you, thankfully,
[01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.600] and my brother and the will of God Almighty.
[01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.600] I was able to defend myself successfully from that ticket.
[01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:41.600] However, I was convicted on a red light violation.
[01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:47.600] And my question is, the light legally cycles entirely too quickly.
[01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:52.600] I had talked to actually the court at the time and I said,
[01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:57.600] Your Honor, the DOT standards currently is in violation.
[01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:02.600] Because of the speed limit, the light is supposed to cycle in 17 seconds.
[01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:08.600] He said, I'm sorry, young man, but we have here in Anchorage our own standards.
[01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:10.600] I said, Your Honor, no, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
[01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:13.600] You have to meet at least the federal minimum standard.
[01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.600] So after the conviction, I paid my $61 and I got out of the court.
[01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:19.600] My question is, what's my next step?
[01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:24.600] I want to file a complaint with a Department of Transportation or somebody,
[01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.600] so I want to know how.
[01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:34.600] Well, I would suggest you look at a civil action as a private attorney general
[01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:47.600] for yourself and all others similarly situated who have been convicted of running a red light
[01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:53.600] because the red lights are out of compliance.
[01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:57.600] And I think Eddie's going to take you to the travel issue, probably.
[01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.600] Okay, well, let's talk about what compliance is in this case.
[01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:03.600] Federal standards don't have diddly squat to do with it.
[01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:09.600] Every state can set its own standards for what happens in its transportation arena.
[01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:13.600] They're not bound by what the feds say one way or the other.
[01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:19.600] What you have to look at is what does the state law say the timing is?
[01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:28.600] No municipality or county can set a light lower than the mandatory minimum the set by the state.
[01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:30.600] That's the deal.
[01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:35.600] And from what this judge is saying, we here in Anchorage,
[01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:41.600] he's saying that the city has set their own standards and they don't have to comply with anybody.
[01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:43.600] That's not true.
[01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:51.600] If the standards that's set by Anchorage do not meet the minimum requirements set by the state legislature,
[01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:59.600] then they don't have a leg to stand on making that assertion and that judge has hung himself out to dry.
[01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:04.600] All you have to do is drop kick him across the tarmac for his stupidity.
[01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.600] I can do it.
[01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.600] I definitely appreciate it. Thank you.
[01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:10.600] Yes, sir.
[01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:13.600] Okay, just don't have too much fun in the process.
[01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:18.600] Oh, I destroyed one of the police officers.
[01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:24.600] He had actually written me a speeding ticket after the red light violation.
[01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:31.600] This is a different police officer and he's running around writing people's tickets here in town with a expired,
[01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:40.600] over eight year expired certification card and he was certified on a laser gun that is no longer in operation.
[01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:45.600] Well, I totally destroyed them on the second ticket.
[01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:52.600] My first ticket was the red slash yellow light violation that is where they got me.
[01:14:52.600 --> 01:15:02.600] And I was even on video tape and half to three quarters through the intersection when the light actually cycled to red.
[01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:06.600] And the court just said, we don't care if they're 61 bucks and get out.
[01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.600] Well, so this is a good opportunity to file suit against him.
[01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:17.600] The speeding ticket, I mean, the speeding ticket is even better because you beat that one.
[01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.600] And he's obviously out of compliance.
[01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:36.600] You file a private attorney general suit for all of the money they've collected improperly for all the people that have been forced to pay these fines and then wind up with higher insurance rates.
[01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:49.600] Since the city for it, they might write you a check to get you to go away and leave alone. And then you make it less profitable for them to steal money from you and your neighbors.
[01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:56.600] Anywhere between $23 to $24 million a year on nothing but tickets.
[01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:02.600] That's a lot of money in an unauthorized tax.
[01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:07.600] Okay, anything else?
[01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:09.600] He hung up.
[01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.600] He hung up. I guess there wasn't anything else.
[01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:18.600] Okay, now we're going to Stefan in Idaho.
[01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:31.600] Hello, my name is Stefan and I'm in Idaho and I wanted to follow Randy's lead and get thrown in jail and possibility of $300 fine in 30 days in jail.
[01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:36.600] Well, hey, I can tell you, it ain't all it's cracked up to be.
[01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:43.600] Okay, hang on. This is Randy Kelsen, Deb. Stephen J. Craig, Lula Radio.
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[01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:31.600] Okay, we're back to Randy Kelton, David Seaman, David Craig with Long Radio, and we're talking to Stefan in Idaho.
[01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:33.600] Okay, go ahead Stefan.
[01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:48.600] Alright, thank you. I was selected for jury duty and because of moral objections, I sent him an affidavit stating that because the body politics was functioning outside the frame of the Constitution
[01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:57.600] and it doesn't have any legitimacy anymore and it's now functioning no different than an organized crime syndicate such as the Mafia or the Nazi regime,
[01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:06.600] I had to opt out of the body politics. I was relinquishing my citizenship, relinquishing my consent, everything,
[01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:18.600] and said that I can no longer, based on morals, continue to be a member of the criminal organization.
[01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:27.600] I sent that affidavit to him and then with that I sent him a notice of understanding and intent and the claim of rights and sovereignty
[01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:40.600] and I gave him 14 days to object or send anything back to me. Well, it took him longer than 14 days but they did send a card and they wanted me to call him up and clear it up
[01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:51.600] and so I called him up and said, I wanted to clear it up. What's the problem? She says, well, you didn't sign the form and I says, well, did you read the affidavit?
[01:20:51.600 --> 01:21:01.600] She first said no and then I says, well, if you had read the affidavit you would understand why I didn't sign it and then she says,
[01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:13.600] well, we've sent it to the judge, you know, on February the 28th and so he'll be getting back with you and then she hung up on me.
[01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:29.600] So as a result of that, they gave me the opportunity to write a little affidavit stating that my conversation with the lady and that they had a default,
[01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:46.600] an explosive default judgment on it for it and it wasn't too long after that I received a new letter from the courts and it's an order to show cause
[01:21:46.600 --> 01:22:02.600] and then another form to fill out telling me if I could fill it out by April the 4th and have no problem or order to show cause on the 26th.
[01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:19.600] So in my mind the lady withheld evidence of the affidavit because there's no reason to show cause because it's obvious that I'm no longer a member of their body politic
[01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:28.600] so the jury commissioner doesn't have standing and the court has no jurisdiction or cause of action against me.
[01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:33.600] Okay, how did you get to that place?
[01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.600] How did I get to that place?
[01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:36.600] Yes.
[01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.600] Well, through the affidavit I got to that place.
[01:22:40.600 --> 01:23:03.600] Okay, what authority does the affidavit grant to negate the civil duty and it sends a law that you require to do jury duty so under what authority do you negate that requirement?
[01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.600] The moral obligation.
[01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:07.600] The moral obligation is not law.
[01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:08.600] It should not be a criminal.
[01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.600] That's not law.
[01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:12.600] Well...
[01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:24.600] Is there something in statute in Idaho that says that you can get out of jury duty by claiming some kind of moral obligation or moral objection?
[01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:29.600] Well, see, I'm taking the avenue that I'm no longer a United States citizen.
[01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:39.600] You can do that, but...
[01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.600] Well, have you taken steps to rescind your U.S. citizenship?
[01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:49.600] Have you filed any documents for the State Department of the United States?
[01:23:49.600 --> 01:24:01.600] Ex-patriation and no, that's not what she's asking. She's asking, did you revoke the citizenship of your own accord?
[01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.600] Right, I did with that affidavit.
[01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:11.600] No, you didn't file it with the State Department or anybody else, you filed it with a state court or a county court.
[01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.600] How does that revoke anything at the federal level?
[01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:20.600] That's like notifying your gardener that you're not going to pay your water bill.
[01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:27.600] No, there's a court. They're the highest...everything is local.
[01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:29.600] Well, wait a minute. Hold on.
[01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:38.600] You're trying to tell them that you are not a U.S. citizen anymore, and if that's the case, if you have revoked your citizenship,
[01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:46.600] then you need to show some sort of paperwork, like something stamped by the State Department, show it, proving that you have revoked your U.S. citizenship,
[01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:48.600] and that you're not a citizen anymore.
[01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:52.600] Wait, wait, wait. He's correcting that we're not U.S. citizens.
[01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:59.600] There isn't but one definition for that in federal law, and it doesn't apply to us. He's correcting that area.
[01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:10.600] But what I'm getting at here is he has tried to make that declaration at a local level where the presumption is always that you are.
[01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:17.600] What he has to have is something other than his own affidavit to show that, or they're going to presume it no matter what.
[01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:22.600] That's the point I was trying to make, some kind of documentation from the State Department.
[01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:29.600] Because the issue here is we no longer have a government of consent by the people.
[01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:34.600] We have a government by force of arms and declaration. That's all.
[01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:39.600] Yeah, but that's an opinion.
[01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:41.600] Yeah, but it's a highly accurate one.
[01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:46.600] That's irrelevant as far as the court's going to be concerned.
[01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:54.600] We are, you know, what we do is we create yourself statutes.
[01:25:54.600 --> 01:26:04.600] And when you're addressing an issue that is addressed by statute, as far as dealing with the court,
[01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:08.600] you may not make a statement, a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth,
[01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:19.600] and you're making a proactive statement that an affidavit to the court has the effect of negating statutory application to you.
[01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:22.600] And my question is, wouldn't you get that?
[01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:25.600] No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
[01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.600] No, and I was talking about a caller.
[01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:39.600] Okay. Again, as an individual, if I have the right to say yes, I have the right to say no at any point in time.
[01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:40.600] Where did you get that?
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.600] I mean, do you give the authority to...
[01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:47.600] Wait a minute. This I get this a lot. You're making that up.
[01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:48.600] No, I'm not.
[01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:53.600] You're just saying that's the way it is because I say that's the way it is.
[01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:59.600] I think to me, you have to... It's all offer and acceptance. Everything is offer and acceptance.
[01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:00.600] No, it isn't.
[01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:02.600] Yes, it is. You...
[01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:08.600] Well, okay. You tell... I get people who are telling me that from jail.
[01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:12.600] Well, I understand. There's a possibility that I'll end up in jail.
[01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:18.600] But I'm taking a point. Nobody on earth is God.
[01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:23.600] God doesn't apply here.
[01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:27.600] Okay. Where are you getting that?
[01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:44.600] Stephanie, if you're going to make the claim that you have rescinded your citizenship as the primary reason of why you're not obligated for jury duty, then that's something that has to be done for the fed, the state department, not through the county court.
[01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:46.600] I don't think that's the claim he's making.
[01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:57.600] Well, that's what he said. He said that he rescinded his citizenship and that he's no longer eligible, and it's all based on some kind of moral objection.
[01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:03.600] Stephanie, is this all about just not being the citizen or is there something else?
[01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:22.600] It's exactly I can no longer be a member of the Court Organized Crime Syndicate. And so I have a moral obligation to relinquish my consent to... because that's how this fraud is continued to grow.
[01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:26.600] Okay, okay. I got the moral issue, and I appreciate the moral issue.
[01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:35.600] Okay. But how does that, your moral conviction, place a duty on our public officials?
[01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:41.600] Well, okay, let's start with reality. There's two states of being, true and false.
[01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:49.600] No, wait, wait. You're going to a lot of hypothetical generalizations, and I want to go back to statute.
[01:28:49.600 --> 01:29:02.600] Well, the Declaration of Independence reaffirms reality that I'm separate from you, and if you violate my amiable rights and sovereignty, I can put you down to your death. That's reality.
[01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:06.600] That's not reality. That's just some general opinion you have.
[01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:08.600] That's reality. That's what...
[01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:16.600] How does it become reality? You can kill me if you want to, is that... am I understanding this right?
[01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.600] I don't agree with you if I don't act the way you want me to.
[01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:27.600] No, you don't have the right to force yourself on me. I have the right to be independent.
[01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:33.600] Okay, okay. Is it your position that you can arbitrarily opt out of law?
[01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:44.600] Opt out of any collectivist mentality. See, I don't have to live in your world, your religion.
[01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:49.600] Because that's what all government says. This sounds like nonsense. We're not talking about religion.
[01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:55.600] Okay, hold on. We're about to go break. Randy Calderon, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, move the radio. We'll be right back.
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[01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:05.600] Yeah, who you want to check? Who you take me for? Free toilet?
[01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:09.600] Who you want to check? Me, no free toilet. You can't check me.
[01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:10.600] All my friends.
[01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:13.600] Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening.
[01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:15.600] Put a chip in your body.
[01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:17.600] And anyway, you go computer reading.
[01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:19.600] You can't hide me safe from nobody.
[01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.600] Let me say chip in on your mom, chip in on your daddy.
[01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:25.600] Chip in on your grandpa and the granny.
[01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.600] Chip in on me, chip in on your baby.
[01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:31.600] Okay, folks, we are back. This is the rule of law.
[01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:34.600] Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:38.600] Okay, we're talking with our caller here, Steppen from Idaho.
[01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:40.600] And there's a few issues I'd like to address here.
[01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:44.600] And Randy also wants to address before we go back to the caller.
[01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:51.600] And one of the primary issues I want to address here has to do with the fact that, folks,
[01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:55.600] we should be wanting to get on juries.
[01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:00.600] In fact, one thing that Randy and I have advocated for years is that people go
[01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.600] and volunteer to get on a grand jury, especially.
[01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:10.600] Now, they don't have jury duty notices that much anymore for grand jurors
[01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:13.600] because most people have a reasonable way to get out of it
[01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:17.600] because you have to spend time several times a week for months on end
[01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:19.600] and most people have to work for a living and all these sorts of things.
[01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:23.600] And so for the most part, it's on a volunteer basis.
[01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:28.600] But when it comes to pedigree and jury duty, we tell people, take every chance you get.
[01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:30.600] Are you kidding me?
[01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:33.600] It's a chance in a lifetime to be on a pedigree for anything
[01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:36.600] because you've got a chance to educate all the other jurors.
[01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.600] You've got a chance to educate the prosecutor and the judge.
[01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:44.600] And most importantly, you've got a chance to exercise your right and your duty
[01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:47.600] for what's called jury nullification.
[01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.600] And what that means, for those of you who don't know what that means,
[01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:55.600] is that, say for example, it's some ridiculous charge like a marijuana possession
[01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:57.600] or something, all right?
[01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:01.600] The pedigree at the trial level, the criminal trial,
[01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:11.600] the pedigree can hand down a finding of not guilty simply because they don't agree with the law.
[01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.600] Because they think the law is a stupid law, a ridiculous law,
[01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:21.600] or unconstitutional or whatever, you have a chance to nullify the statute
[01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:26.600] and to find and to give somebody their life back when you're on a pedigree.
[01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:30.600] It's a chance of a lifetime to participate in a jury nullification process.
[01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:35.600] So folks, you can change the system and you can educate a lot of people
[01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:43.600] by getting yourself into these situations where you are a juror, either grand juror or pedigree.
[01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:47.600] Now, that being said, and I think Eddie and Randy both want to say some things about that,
[01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:51.600] the other issue that I wanted to discuss here is that, Stephen,
[01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.600] it sounds to me like you're going to a place called choice of law, all right?
[01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:59.600] Which is, Harman Taylor has been on the show several times
[01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:05.600] and has talked about this very issue right here of choice of law.
[01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:09.600] And that that is a very good defense, it's also a very good offense
[01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:13.600] in criminal and civil cases involving the government.
[01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:19.600] But in order to opt out of their choice of law,
[01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:23.600] you have to show that there's no commercial nexus for one thing.
[01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:26.600] And if you've already agreed to their choice of law,
[01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:31.600] there's things that you have to do in order to basically prove
[01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:34.600] that you are no longer in agreement to their choice of law.
[01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:38.600] And if you have already done things to agree to their choice of law,
[01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:41.600] there's very little that you can do after the fact to say,
[01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:44.600] well, I changed my mind, I don't agree to the choice of law anymore.
[01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.600] If you have a driver's license, you've agreed to their choice of law.
[01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:50.600] If you have a voter registration card, you've agreed to their choice of law.
[01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.600] Social security card, you've agreed to their choice of law.
[01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:54.600] You have a bank account, you've agreed to their choice of law.
[01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:55.600] On and on and on.
[01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:57.600] All right, if you own property and you're on the tax roll,
[01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.600] agree to their choice of law.
[01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:03.600] There's so many ways that we fall into these pitfalls of agreeing to their choice of law
[01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:05.600] in various different situations.
[01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:08.600] And so if you don't want to agree to their choice of law anymore,
[01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:12.600] you're going to have to do more than just file an affidavit with the county court
[01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.600] saying you have some kind of moral objection to the jury duty.
[01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.600] And so that, and Harmon Taylor would say the same thing, I'm sure.
[01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.600] Now, Randy, you had some things you wanted to say.
[01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:26.600] My point was what she just said.
[01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:28.600] That was exactly my point.
[01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:34.600] You don't just get to decide today that the law is requiring me
[01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:37.600] to do something I don't want to do.
[01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:46.600] But at all other times, I'm perfectly satisfied with reaping the benefits of the legal system.
[01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:50.600] Except when it places a requirement on me,
[01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:59.600] then I want to be able to opt out of it at my discretion, at my whim.
[01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:02.600] I don't wish whim because I don't want to sound frivolous.
[01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:05.600] It's not that I'm trying to pick on our caller,
[01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:11.600] but we can't just opt out of that part of what we want to opt out of.
[01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:15.600] Well, what Stefan is talking about, you know, offer an acceptance.
[01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:19.600] And, you know, this is why I'm talking about the whole choice of law thing.
[01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:24.600] But the problem is that people have already agreed for the most part
[01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:26.600] and they don't realize it.
[01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:30.600] They've already agreed to the system's choice of law and then they don't realize it.
[01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:33.600] And then later on down the line, they say, no, that doesn't apply to me,
[01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:34.600] but it really does.
[01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:40.600] And so you have to go through some specific steps if you want to get out of their choice of law
[01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:45.600] because 99.9% sure people have already agreed to it.
[01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:46.600] Don't go ahead.
[01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:49.600] Offering acceptance is where I was going.
[01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:53.600] We've already entered into the offering acceptance.
[01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:58.600] And we can't just arbitrarily make an offer.
[01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.600] And we have a lot of people that are filing affidavits.
[01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:08.600] I was talking to someone about that today as they sent affidavits to a bank and said,
[01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:14.600] if you don't object to this, then you agree to give me power of attorney for the bank.
[01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:18.600] And I said, say what?
[01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:20.600] How on earth do you do that?
[01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.600] What obligation do they have to respond to you?
[01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:34.600] The affidavit has no power other than to establish facts that may or may not be uncontested.
[01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:36.600] Other than that, they do nothing.
[01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:41.600] And what the court asked for is sounds appropriate.
[01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:43.600] They didn't make any threats against you.
[01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:52.600] They said, well, okay, you've indicated an objection and you indicated to the clerk who can't hear the objection.
[01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:54.600] Only the court can hear the objection.
[01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:57.600] So they've indicated they'll hold a show cause hearing.
[01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:01.600] You want to opt out of the statutory duty?
[01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:04.600] Come on down and show us why you want to opt out.
[01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:13.600] I can almost be certain that if you go down there with this moral objection, they're going to say they don't want you under jury anyway.
[01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:23.600] And they'll send you home, but I haven't heard anything that the other side has done that I felt was inappropriate.
[01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:25.600] They're just following the statutes.
[01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:31.600] And when we're dealing in the statutory realm, and here you are, you have to deal in statutes.
[01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:42.600] You have to be able to tell them, here's the law that says that I can do what I'm doing right now because they're going to be creatures of statute.
[01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.600] And they're not going to hear your opinion.
[01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:52.600] As a matter of fact, the court, the judge is forbidden to hear your opinion.
[01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:57.600] He has, he has two primary duties.
[01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:06.600] He must develop the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence and then apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the case.
[01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:18.600] If you come in there with a great argument, he may agree with you and he may sympathize with you, but he has no statutory power to rule for you.
[01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:25.600] So in this case, whether you like that fact or not, he's a statutory creature.
[01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:36.600] And being living within the geographical limits of his jurisdiction places you in a contractual relationship with him.
[01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:49.600] And actually, I think the show hall is to the show cause hearing is very encouraging in this situation because it shows that the court is willing to listen to to your objections.
[01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:52.600] I mean, that's absolutely what you want to happen.
[01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:59.600] So you go to the show cause hearing, you explain yourself, and I'm sure they will take you off the jury panel immediately.
[01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:00.600] Could I say something?
[01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:01.600] Sure.
[01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:02.600] Okay.
[01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:05.600] I think Eddie will back me up on this.
[01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:12.600] Lysander Spooner has wrote a document called The Constitution of No Authority.
[01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:20.600] And I think everybody, like he has said, should read it because it will stop you in your tracks with everything you have said.
[01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:26.600] Because nobody on earth can perfect constructive fraud.
[01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:35.600] Well, I will agree that yes, he wrote the book and yes, it's a sound observation, very thoroughly documented and researched.
[01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:40.600] And that I will even agree that he is correct because I have the same point of view.
[01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:46.600] The problem is, is it's not what they've cut the law to be at the moment.
[01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:49.600] It's something we have to correct.
[01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:59.600] As long as they think what they're operating under is lawful, even if we think it's unlawful, they have the numbers and the guns that we don't.
[01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:01.600] To be right is one thing.
[01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:05.600] To be able to enforce being right is another.
[01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:09.600] And there's another issue too when Lysander Spooner wrote all that stuff.
[01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:14.600] We were on a sound money system and we were on law of the land and that's not the case anymore.
[01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:20.600] So those arguments don't even really necessarily apply and I should probably have Harmon Taylor on again to talk about these things.
[01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:25.600] Having something in your mind as a theory is one thing.
[01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:28.600] What works is something quite different.
[01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.600] And so I go with what works.
[01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:35.600] Well, the Declaration of Independence supersedes everything.
[01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:37.600] Okay, well, I just agree with that.
[01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:38.600] Wait a minute.
[01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:40.600] How do you establish that?
[01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:43.600] Well, what do they fight for?
[01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:46.600] No, that goes to some general idea.
[01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.600] No, that doesn't go to anything substantial.
[01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:52.600] I can't go into a court and say, well, what did they fight for?
[01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:54.600] That's the ultimate law of the land.
[01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:56.600] We're not on the land anymore, Stefan.
[01:42:56.600 --> 01:42:58.600] Well, the ultimate.
[01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:00.600] Well, wait a minute.
[01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:01.600] Wait a minute.
[01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:09.600] No worry in the Declaration of Independence as it's stated within anywhere in its language that this will be treated as the law of the land.
[01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:12.600] That language is in the Constitution itself.
[01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:30.600] Okay, the Declaration of Independence was the people's more or less, even though the people never actually voted on it or got to consider that particular option as a people to depart company with the King of England.
[01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:36.600] And it's a declaration to that effect and it lists the reasons why we're going to do it.
[01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:39.600] Hang on and I'll finish this up on the other side of the break.
[01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:42.600] Yeah, and then we need to move on because we've got Mark and Roger.
[01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:48.600] So, Stefan will probably have to pick this up another night with Harman Taylor, I would recommend.
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:53.600] All right, and Eddie's going to finish his thought on the other side as well.
[01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:55.600] Folks, we'll be right back. This is the rule of law.
[01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:03.600] Hey, did you hear Ron Paul's announce he's running for president in 2012?
[01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:04.600] It is Ron Paul.
[01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:05.600] Really?
[01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:10.600] Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute. Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:13.600] Oh, but I'd love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:14.600] Of course you do.
[01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:20.600] Now, listen closely. You need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
[01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:23.600] They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about.
[01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:28.600] They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers, and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:31.600] Brave New Books? Did they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:37.600] No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:39.600] Ugh, that sounds like that show in the Discovery Channel.
[01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:47.600] Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earthskill School that you can sign up for on the website BraveNewBookStore.com.
[01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:48.600] What are you doing?
[01:44:48.600 --> 01:44:54.600] I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to BraveNewBookStore.com or down to the bookstore in person. Where's that located?
[01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:55.600] 1904, Guadeloupe Street.
[01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:58.600] There, it's sent. I even made a smiley face.
[01:44:58.600 --> 01:44:59.600] Great.
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[01:45:58.600 --> 01:46:22.600] 666 Law Easy.
[01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:38.600] Hi, folks. We are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.600] Okay, Stefan, I want to finish this up. We've got to move on to other callers.
[01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:49.600] But what I was saying when we went to break is that the Declaration of Independence is not the law of the land.
[01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:58.600] The law of the land was designated within the Magna Carta, okay, back in 1215 when we forced King John to sign it.
[01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:04.600] Then it was confirmed to be the law of the land in the Conformatio Carturum.
[01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:07.600] The Declaration of Independence is exactly that.
[01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:17.600] It's a declaration of the independence of the people within the 13 colonies from the rulership of the King of England.
[01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:22.600] And separate citizenship from England.
[01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:27.600] That's all it does. It doesn't create law. It doesn't specify law.
[01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:36.600] It simply states the reasons that we feel as a people we have the right to make this declaration and separation.
[01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:39.600] That's all. It doesn't create law.
[01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:48.600] The Constitution was rewritten and created to embody what we were going to consider our new founding law.
[01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:55.600] And they were supposed to stick to that had it been allowed to survive, but it wasn't allowed to survive.
[01:47:55.600 --> 01:48:05.600] And if you don't understand that, then go back and listen to one of the archives where I've discussed it dealing with our specific section on who can be president.
[01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:18.600] That section specifically causes the Constitution to self-destruct after the original generation that was alive at the time of its adoption.
[01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:23.600] After that, no one could be president simply because of the way it's written.
[01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:25.600] All right. That's all I got, Deborah. Go ahead.
[01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:30.600] Well, yeah, and I was just going to add in that the Constitution doesn't even matter anymore.
[01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:38.600] Anyway, and Harman Taylor will definitely tell you that, and for folks that if that's a new concept to you, go back and listen to some of the archives from Harman Taylor.
[01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:50.600] And the nutshell of that is that since we're not on sound money system anymore, we actually are in maritime law, the Constitution no longer applies.
[01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:52.600] Everything is by commercial agreement.
[01:48:52.600 --> 01:49:05.600] And so if you, and the only thing that matters anymore is statute, and Harman did a whole show on this whole birther thing, and he's saying that this whole birth certificate thing about Obama is never going to go anywhere.
[01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:14.600] However you interpret natural born citizen, whether that means that he was born here or whether it means his parents are born here, however you want to interpret it, none of it matters.
[01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:25.600] That whole thing is never going to go anywhere because there is nothing in federal statute that requires either a president or a candidate for president to be a, quote, natural born citizen.
[01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:34.600] The only place you find that is in Constitution, and the Constitution just does not apply right now because we are not on law of the land anymore.
[01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:38.600] We haven't been since we came into this funny money system.
[01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:48.600] Everything is by commercial agreement, and if you have fallen into a commercial agreement with the bad guys, then the statute applies to you, and that's just all there is to it.
[01:49:48.600 --> 01:50:03.600] So if you don't want the statute to apply to you, if you want to opt out of their choice of law, then you have to take the necessary steps to basically untangle yourself from whatever commercial agreements you have with the bad guys.
[01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:13.600] And that's all I have to say on that matter. I'm going to have Harman Taylor on again real soon because apparently this is a source of great misunderstanding with a lot of well-meaning people out there.
[01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:16.600] All right. Any more comments, Randy, before we go on?
[01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:22.600] No, no, no. Let's go to Mark in Wisconsin. I know he's got something interesting.
[01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:26.600] Hello there, Randy. Thanks for taking my call.
[01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:48.600] I have a situation with a small claims action where the March 19th, the lawyer for the defendant, wrote the commissioner directly to reopen the case based on the default judgment entered against the defendant for inadvertence excusable neglect.
[01:50:48.600 --> 01:51:04.600] The defendant was claiming he was not properly served. However, the defendant appeared in court as a general appearance to then say, I'll get a piece of paper to the court in 15 days explaining why I shouldn't have a default judgment.
[01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:10.600] He let the 15 days lapse, and of course, default judgment would have been entered against him.
[01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:23.600] Now, on the 21st, I received this paperwork called the courthouse and asked, now, when is this hearing going to happen on this motion to reopen the judgment?
[01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:30.600] The courthouse said she hadn't seen it yet, and it would be sometime in April.
[01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:45.600] And today, I checked the computer and it says that the order was vacated. So how did this court commissioner have a hearing for a motion to reopen without me being there?
[01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:47.600] That's a good question.
[01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:58.600] I ask good questions. How do I get the judge on the dime to put down on paper the reason that he did this?
[01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:05.600] Wait a minute. Okay, the judge issued an order.
[01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:07.600] Judge issued a vacate order.
[01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:09.600] Do you have the order?
[01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:20.600] It was entered in about five o'clock today, so no. I intend to go visit the courthouse tomorrow and get a copy of the order.
[01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:29.600] The reason I want to have a hearing on this particular thing, whether he was served properly or not, you'll love this.
[01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:39.600] He intercepted a subpoena for a second party in the action and took that mail into courthouse on the day.
[01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:48.600] The mail that went to his location, where he is physically located, comes back as an expired forwarding order.
[01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:55.600] So he has listed an address that you can't get mail to in his courthouse.
[01:52:55.600 --> 01:53:01.600] Is that you can't get mail to or he just didn't pick up the registered mail?
[01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:11.600] No, no, no. It explicitly is an expired forwarding order. He likes playing card to get in court.
[01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:23.600] And so what he's done is he, and I have to get this confirmed with a proper filing of discovery motion, is he went ahead and said,
[01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:28.600] please forward my mail to this location and only do it for X number of days.
[01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:34.600] And so then you'd have an expired forwarding order.
[01:53:34.600 --> 01:53:45.600] Okay, and you missed the, so you sent it after the number of days listed in the order?
[01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:52.600] The initial summons to get him to court came back as with the expired forwarding order.
[01:53:52.600 --> 01:54:02.600] How he showed up in court is he took somebody else's summons for this case, intercepted their mail at the business location,
[01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.600] and then brought that to court, and that's what he had in his hand.
[01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:10.600] So what kind of appearance did he make? Did he make a general premise?
[01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:12.600] That's conmeneral tampering with the mail.
[01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:20.600] Yeah, you'd think that, except I talked with the postal inspectors and they told me they weren't interested with tampering the mail
[01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:28.600] since it didn't go to a physical mail box. It went to a business. Once it hits the business doorstep, it's fair game.
[01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:32.600] However, whether the judge feels that way is a separate issue.
[01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:42.600] So I'm trying to figure out here how I can get the vacate vacated and actually have a hearing on his claim that he was not properly served
[01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:48.600] because I'd like to get this issue of intercepted mail into the record.
[01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:56.600] And I'd like this judge or court commissioner to explain how he managed to vacate the order.
[01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:02.600] Okay, he's a court commissioner. Is this an administrative process?
[01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:06.600] This is small claims, little people court.
[01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:10.600] So now he's sitting technically as a judge then?
[01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:12.600] Yes.
[01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:18.600] In a judicial capacity. So he's going to be bound to the rules of court.
[01:55:18.600 --> 01:55:22.600] One would hope.
[01:55:22.600 --> 01:55:30.600] Well, I'm not saying he's following rules of court. I'm saying I would expect him to be bound to the rules of court.
[01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:34.600] And I'd like to make sure he stays that way bound.
[01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:42.600] What are the rules of court concerning orders of the court and vacating an order of the court?
[01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:44.600] Can he do that suesponte?
[01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:53.600] I don't know. The bottom of the sheet of paper and the bottom third, the court orders a hearing on this date and reopening granted, etc.
[01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:58.600] My understanding is, you know, again, if it's a motion, both parties have to be there.
[01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:08.600] But I'm wondering if there's a way, apparently, in looking into finding a fact and conclusion of law, I can't say to the judge,
[01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:14.600] hey, you made a decision to explain this to me. Apparently, I can't do that with finding a fact and conclusion of law.
[01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:20.600] So how do I get this judge to explain how he came up with this decision?
[01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:24.600] Why can't you ask for findings of fact? Is it because it's small claims?
[01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:35.600] I don't know. I looked at the form for finding a fact and conclusion of law and I couldn't see how I can format that question to him.
[01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:39.600] But I may just have the format wrong.
[01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:46.600] This is not my first go-around, but it's my first go-around with actual heavy-duty paper.
[01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:50.600] Most of the time, I hit an interrogatory with the other party.
[01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:58.600] Now, I'm actually trying to do third-party discovery and I'm finding that in an interrogatory, the interrogatory format is not correct.
[01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:06.600] I need a subpoena dose tecum, which apparently is a straight-up discovery that I was doing, is not a subpoena dose tecum.
[01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:09.600] Well, a subpoena, you know, okay.
[01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:16.600] Now, okay, don't you have a, do you have discovery in small claims?
[01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:20.600] Yes, and I've used discovery in small claims in the past.
[01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:27.600] I'm going to be issuing a motion to compel because this party has been served with discovery
[01:57:27.600 --> 01:57:29.600] and, of course, hasn't been served.
[01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:35.600] Okay, the one thing you do need to do is file a motion for reconsideration.
[01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:37.600] Okay, motion for reconsideration.
[01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:38.600] All right.
[01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:43.600] Yeah, and if that gets denied, I would say for sure a motion for finding the fact and conclusion of law.
[01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:54.600] It doesn't have to fit a specific format or specific form if you feel that the judge has not given adequate reason as to why he has made his decision.
[01:57:54.600 --> 01:58:05.600] If he hasn't cited case law or he has not cited specific statute, you can always file a motion for finding the fact and conclusion of law to ask the judge to explain himself.
[01:58:05.600 --> 01:58:17.600] I mean, unless it's prohibited by the rules of court, like if there's something in the rules of court for small claims court that say no findings of fact and conclusion motions are allowed, you can always file one.
[01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:18.600] All right.
[01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:22.600] Well, that's what I'll do, but the reconsideration should be done first.
[01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:23.600] Yes.
[01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:24.600] Yes.
[01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:25.600] That should be the first thing.
[01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:26.600] All right.
[01:58:26.600 --> 01:58:27.600] Well, good.
[01:58:27.600 --> 01:58:31.600] When I go and visit the courthouse tomorrow, I'll have that and with bell gone.
[01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:32.600] Okay.
[01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:33.600] Have fun.
[01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:34.600] Okay.
[01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:36.600] We are out of time.
[01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:39.600] This is Randall Kelston, David Stevens, Eddie Craig.
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[01:58:45.600 --> 01:58:46.600] Roger Washington.
[01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:52.600] I'm sorry we didn't get to you, but if you'll call back to not tomorrow night, we will bump into the top of the list.
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