ROL_2012-02-24_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:11.160]  In an apparent replay of the 2001 anthrax attacks, several U.S. lawmakers, media outlets,
[00:11.160 --> 00:15.600]  plus comedians John Stewart and Stephen Colbert received threatening letters containing a
[00:15.600 --> 00:20.500]  harmless white powder, but the sender warned harmful material could follow.
[00:20.500 --> 00:24.880]  The letters included complaints about corporate influence over U.S. politics.
[00:24.880 --> 00:30.280]  One letter was reportedly received by Democratic Senator Patty Murray.
[00:30.280 --> 00:35.560]  Workers who once occupied Chicago's Republic Window and Door factory in 2008 in a successful
[00:35.560 --> 00:40.080]  bid to keep their jobs began another sit-in at the same building Thursday.
[00:40.080 --> 00:44.800]  The new owner's series Energy bought the plant from Republic after it attempted to shut down
[00:44.800 --> 00:48.440]  without giving its employees notice or paying back wages.
[00:48.440 --> 00:53.280]  Thursday more than 50 of those workers occupied the factory after discovering Siri's energy
[00:53.280 --> 00:56.240]  plant to close.
[00:56.240 --> 00:59.960]  The Associated Press reported Thursday the New York Police Department's intelligence
[00:59.960 --> 01:05.840]  chief David Cohen wanted a mole planted in every mosque within a 250-mile radius of the
[01:05.840 --> 01:06.840]  city.
[01:06.840 --> 01:12.240]  The news is the latest revelation the NYPD spied on Muslims across the U.S. northeast.
[01:12.240 --> 01:17.520]  Cohen, a former CIA officer, told subordinates, take a big net, throw it out, catch as many
[01:17.520 --> 01:22.040]  fish as you can and see what we get.
[01:22.040 --> 01:27.720]  The Swedish newspaper Expressen reported Wednesday WikiLeaks plans to release documents exposing
[01:27.720 --> 01:33.560]  Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bilt as a U.S. spy, part of a campaign to stop Sweden from
[01:33.560 --> 01:37.600]  eventually extraditing founder Julian Assange to the U.S.
[01:37.600 --> 01:41.960]  The paper said WikiLeaks has threatened to publish a diplomatic cable showing Swedish
[01:41.960 --> 01:47.520]  Foreign Minister Carl Bilt has been an informant for the U.S. since the 1970s.
[01:47.520 --> 01:53.200]  The paper said, according to WikiLeaks, Bilt's original contact is Carl Rove, a former adviser
[01:53.200 --> 01:57.320]  to George Bush someone Bilt has referred to as an old friend.
[01:57.320 --> 02:02.440]  As Assange fights extradition to Sweden from the U.K., WikiLeaks is convinced Sweden has
[02:02.440 --> 02:07.200]  already made a deal that would see Assange extradited to the U.S. to testify against
[02:07.200 --> 02:12.040]  Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier suspected of leaking thousands of classified documents
[02:12.040 --> 02:13.040]  to WikiLeaks.
[02:13.040 --> 02:19.080]  There are also fears Assange could be tried for espionage against the U.S.
[02:19.080 --> 02:22.800]  Private Bradley Manning accused of leaking U.S. military and diplomatic documents to
[02:22.800 --> 02:28.320]  WikiLeaks was arraigned Thursday on charges of aiding the enemy and violating the Espionage
[02:28.320 --> 02:29.320]  Act.
[02:29.320 --> 02:32.800]  If convicted, Manning could be sentenced to life in prison.
[02:32.800 --> 02:36.400]  Aiding the enemy is a capital offense, but army prosecutors have said they won't seek
[02:36.400 --> 02:37.880]  the death penalty.
[02:37.880 --> 02:42.080]  Manning is accused of sending field reports from Iraq and Afghanistan that exposed war
[02:42.080 --> 02:47.220]  crimes and cables from U.S. embassies revealing violations of international law.
[02:47.220 --> 02:52.680]  One leak included video of a U.S. helicopter attack in Baghdad which showed pilots laughing
[02:52.680 --> 03:11.520]  as they killed 12 unarmed Iraqis.
[03:22.680 --> 03:49.880]  I'll take you as soon as I'm done with this.
[03:49.880 --> 03:57.480]  Now, I hope what I said in the last segment made sense.
[03:57.480 --> 04:03.280]  This is pretty much how the banks did their business.
[04:03.280 --> 04:06.600]  It was based on a sound business model.
[04:06.600 --> 04:18.360]  The problem they had was it didn't comport with long-standing law.
[04:18.360 --> 04:28.920]  One of the long-standing laws in all of the states has been that in matters of real property
[04:28.920 --> 04:36.880]  as opposed to personal property, personal property, your car, your big screen TV, your
[04:36.880 --> 04:40.680]  bass boat, those things are personal property.
[04:40.680 --> 04:44.640]  Real property is land and houses.
[04:44.640 --> 04:56.240]  In matters of real property, be they consumer or commercial, any transfer of real property
[04:56.240 --> 05:05.240]  of beneficial interest in real property was required to be filed in the court record.
[05:05.240 --> 05:14.920]  And I use beneficial interest instead of ownership because the intention of filing a change in
[05:14.920 --> 05:20.680]  beneficial interest in the court record was so that an effective title search could be
[05:20.680 --> 05:22.480]  done.
[05:22.480 --> 05:29.240]  When a title search is done, all that is searched is the court record.
[05:29.240 --> 05:36.920]  Any claim against the property was required to be filed with the county registrar's office.
[05:36.920 --> 05:44.400]  The problem with the new business model was unlike the old business model where the property
[05:44.400 --> 05:52.560]  fully changed hands from one holder to another holder.
[05:52.560 --> 06:02.680]  In this model, they combined hundreds of investment instruments, a promised is to pay, into one
[06:02.680 --> 06:08.480]  large pool and then sold off pieces of that pool.
[06:08.480 --> 06:21.160]  Well, if you have 10,000 notes in a pool and you sell 2% of that pool to an investor,
[06:21.160 --> 06:31.600]  then according to the statute, you were required to file notice of that change in beneficial
[06:31.600 --> 06:38.320]  interest in the county record so that anyone who would consider purchasing the property
[06:38.320 --> 06:44.280]  could look in the court record and see who had a claim against that property.
[06:44.280 --> 06:52.400]  Well, at 25 to 35 bucks a pop, that became absolutely prohibitive.
[06:52.400 --> 06:57.800]  So the banks got together looking for a solution and they found one.
[06:57.800 --> 07:05.840]  And all of the major banks, Deutsche Bank, Wells Fargo, Bank of America Chase, several
[07:05.840 --> 07:12.840]  others, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, they all put together this company and they called it Mortgage
[07:12.840 --> 07:14.960]  Electronic Registration Service.
[07:14.960 --> 07:22.920]  And they said, we can get around this reporting requirement by including Mortgage Electronic
[07:22.920 --> 07:29.280]  Registration Service in the deed of trust as a nominee for the lender.
[07:29.280 --> 07:37.800]  He is the straw man holder of the lean document.
[07:37.800 --> 07:47.000]  And then behind him, we could transfer ownership of the note without having to file a change
[07:47.000 --> 07:52.080]  in beneficial interest in the court record.
[07:52.080 --> 08:00.040]  The Supreme Court of the state of Kansas addressed this issue, probably one of the first to fully
[08:00.040 --> 08:01.920]  address it.
[08:01.920 --> 08:09.240]  And MERS came to them and said, this requirement to file the change in beneficial interest
[08:09.240 --> 08:18.600]  of the note and the real property which can't be registered as office, it is archaic, cumbersome
[08:18.600 --> 08:20.880]  and costly.
[08:20.880 --> 08:26.640]  And we come up with this Whispering Business Model so that we could avoid that particular
[08:26.640 --> 08:28.880]  problem.
[08:28.880 --> 08:34.160]  And the Supreme Court agreed with MERS that the requirement to file the beneficial interest
[08:34.160 --> 08:39.440]  was archaic, costly and cumbersome.
[08:39.440 --> 08:48.680]  However, it is law and we have no power to change it.
[08:48.680 --> 08:54.320]  So they're still required to make these filings and when you think about it, the United States
[08:54.320 --> 09:04.000]  became one of the most or the most powerful economic engine on the planet primarily because
[09:04.000 --> 09:09.520]  countries from people from all over the world invested in America.
[09:09.520 --> 09:15.200]  You could invest in property in America and you could be fairly certain that the government
[09:15.200 --> 09:22.080]  wasn't going to one day just come out and confiscate everybody's property.
[09:22.080 --> 09:31.080]  You could invest in property and do a title search and be certain that no one had a claim
[09:31.080 --> 09:36.600]  against that property that wasn't registered with the county registrar's office.
[09:36.600 --> 09:42.920]  So you could purchase property with confidence.
[09:42.920 --> 09:46.400]  What about now?
[09:46.400 --> 09:48.880]  That is not, that can't happen anymore.
[09:48.880 --> 09:51.480]  You can't purchase property with confidence.
[09:51.480 --> 09:57.240]  Now all these people that's been buying these houses in foreclosure, they're now all looking
[09:57.240 --> 09:59.920]  at losing them.
[09:59.920 --> 10:09.400]  The Bethelakwa case in Massachusetts recently, a guy bought two houses at auction, went to
[10:09.400 --> 10:14.480]  the land court in Massachusetts and asked the land court to give him quiet title so
[10:14.480 --> 10:19.520]  he could buy title insurance and sell them and the land court without any input from
[10:19.520 --> 10:28.760]  the people who were foreclosed on, looked at the paperwork and said the trustee was not
[10:28.760 --> 10:37.040]  appointed trustee according to court record until after he started the foreclosure process.
[10:37.040 --> 10:44.880]  Therefore he purchased from the trustee what the trustee had to sell, which was nothing
[10:44.880 --> 10:49.400]  and that was like dropping an atomic bomb on the industry.
[10:49.400 --> 10:55.440]  Well, now we need to go back and look at the records.
[10:55.440 --> 10:58.680]  Let's look at what is in there.
[10:58.680 --> 11:10.960]  If you've got a loan and any time from after the late 1990s to the present, well actually
[11:10.960 --> 11:18.320]  until 2009 or 2010, that's when the bank started getting a lot more careful.
[11:18.320 --> 11:24.600]  All of the investment conduits that were built over the last 10 years or so have all collapsed
[11:24.600 --> 11:31.560]  because they were all a fraudulent mess, but if you purchased a house in that time period
[11:31.560 --> 11:40.480]  and you've had a original lender, now you may or may not have the original lender as
[11:40.480 --> 11:43.280]  the servicer.
[11:43.280 --> 11:50.280]  Now you may think that the lender is still the one that holds the note if you're still
[11:50.280 --> 12:00.480]  paying the lender as the servicer, but I can almost assure you in 99.95% of the cases,
[12:00.480 --> 12:03.160]  the lender has sold the note.
[12:03.160 --> 12:07.760]  Now the lender may be standing as the servicer, but they don't own the note anymore.
[12:07.760 --> 12:14.240]  Now we have one case where you got a loan from Wells Fargo and Wells Fargo is for closing.
[12:14.240 --> 12:17.240]  Well, Fargo does not own the note.
[12:17.240 --> 12:21.160]  They sold it and they took the contract to collect.
[12:21.160 --> 12:29.280]  So rather you have the same servicer as the company that you got the loan with or if it's
[12:29.280 --> 12:37.000]  changed, you need to go look in the court record and see what's in there.
[12:37.000 --> 12:39.640]  Look at the deed of trust.
[12:39.640 --> 12:43.920]  When was the deed of trust filed in the court record?
[12:43.920 --> 12:47.040]  Does it include MERS in there?
[12:47.040 --> 12:53.600]  Is there a filing of release of need?
[12:53.600 --> 13:00.960]  Especially you want to look at this if you have a servicer different from the original,
[13:00.960 --> 13:04.960]  the originator of the note, the original lender.
[13:04.960 --> 13:10.480]  In order for there to be a different servicer, there would have to have been a release of
[13:10.480 --> 13:23.960]  lien and a notice of satisfaction of the security instrument by the originator of the note.
[13:23.960 --> 13:29.480]  And then there would have had to have been filed a subsequent deed of trust and notice
[13:29.480 --> 13:33.240]  of ownership of the note.
[13:33.240 --> 13:40.360]  Now every once in a while, we see a filing of a notice of release of lien.
[13:40.360 --> 13:42.920]  People see that and they think, well, my note's been paid off.
[13:42.920 --> 13:49.240]  Well, yeah, it's technically been paid off, but it was paid off by someone else who simply
[13:49.240 --> 13:50.600]  purchased the debt.
[13:50.600 --> 13:54.920]  You didn't pay it off, so the obligation still exists.
[13:54.920 --> 14:05.600]  What is important about this is not that the obligation goes away, but that the claim against
[14:05.600 --> 14:09.680]  your property goes away.
[14:09.680 --> 14:18.120]  It's filed in the court record because it establishes a claim against real property.
[14:18.120 --> 14:26.760]  If they don't file the subsequent trustee's deed in the court record, then they don't
[14:26.760 --> 14:28.720]  have a claim against the property.
[14:28.720 --> 14:34.640]  Now they can still come back and sue you for the promise to pay, and they'll have a claim
[14:34.640 --> 14:42.000]  against you, the person, but they won't have a claim against the property.
[14:42.000 --> 14:45.680]  And then you look for other things.
[14:45.680 --> 14:54.360]  One of the other primary documents I've seen missing is an assignment of substitute trustee.
[14:54.360 --> 15:02.400]  I'm looking through these records, and you have a deed of trust, and that deed of trust
[15:02.400 --> 15:08.560]  establishes a trust, and it will name a trustee in there.
[15:08.560 --> 15:15.240]  And that trustee is named because he's intended to be a third party who stands between you
[15:15.240 --> 15:18.160]  and the lender.
[15:18.160 --> 15:27.640]  And if the note is defaulted on, it is the trustee who has authority to take action
[15:27.640 --> 15:33.800]  to remedy, either to secure payment or recover the collateral.
[15:33.800 --> 15:41.120]  Well, when the trustee changes, the notice has to be filed in the court record because
[15:41.120 --> 15:46.280]  we have all of these records where someone's been foreclosed on.
[15:46.280 --> 15:51.440]  And if you go look in the court record, this one guy is in the deed of trust who's listed
[15:51.440 --> 15:54.440]  as the trustee.
[15:54.440 --> 16:00.400]  And you have somebody else who comes along and says, I'm the substitute, and files a
[16:00.400 --> 16:05.600]  substitute trustee's deed.
[16:05.600 --> 16:12.400]  There's nothing in the record showing that he has authority to file that deed because
[16:12.400 --> 16:17.000]  his name is not the name of the original trustee.
[16:17.000 --> 16:18.640]  It's a different name.
[16:18.640 --> 16:25.680]  And there's no assignment from the original trustee to the third party in the court record.
[16:25.680 --> 16:33.040]  Now Merce claims they have the power to do that, and whether they do or not, for the
[16:33.040 --> 16:36.040]  most part they don't.
[16:36.040 --> 16:41.960]  And if they don't and they didn't, then somebody foreclosed claiming to be the trustee who
[16:41.960 --> 16:46.360]  can't establish that he is, and I'll finish this up on the other side and we'll start
[16:46.360 --> 16:47.360]  taking calls.
[16:47.360 --> 16:55.040]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig, Reveal Radio, calling number 512-646-1984.
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[19:43.720 --> 20:01.720]  Okay, we're back and we're talking about what to look for in the county record.
[20:01.720 --> 20:11.200]  The first thing you want to see is if you have a different servicer, there's actually
[20:11.200 --> 20:18.320]  a couple of things that you need to see in there, if this, the entity claiming authority
[20:18.320 --> 20:27.000]  to collect on the note is different from the entity that you entered into the mortgage
[20:27.000 --> 20:37.360]  agreement with, there should be a notice of a signee of the servicer that's required by
[20:37.360 --> 20:41.520]  the real estate settlement procedures act.
[20:41.520 --> 20:52.440]  And on my website, actually if you go to aidocs.com, there's a link to basic information.
[20:52.440 --> 20:59.680]  That is a test questionnaire I'm building for a forensic audit.
[20:59.680 --> 21:05.800]  This is a free forensic audit, that it may be free, it may cost a little bit, I'm not
[21:05.800 --> 21:11.400]  sure, but right now it's free, that intended to analyze the note.
[21:11.400 --> 21:20.560]  And if you go to aidocs.com and select basic info, the first page just click the bottom
[21:20.560 --> 21:21.560]  link.
[21:21.560 --> 21:27.080]  The second page down at the bottom, you'll see a link for servicers and one for title
[21:27.080 --> 21:28.080]  search.
[21:28.080 --> 21:33.920]  Click on the servicers link and that has the real estate settlement procedures act section
[21:33.920 --> 21:39.320]  that goes to the filing of servicers.
[21:39.320 --> 21:44.840]  And what filings they have to make, when they have to make them, how they have to be made.
[21:44.840 --> 21:49.480]  You can go through that, it's done in questionnaire format, so it makes it a lot easier to go
[21:49.480 --> 21:50.480]  through.
[21:50.480 --> 21:56.720]  If you go down, you should go through that before you go to the clerk's office.
[21:56.720 --> 21:58.960]  And then you'll pretty well know what to look for.
[21:58.960 --> 22:06.680]  For the most part, you're not going to find the assignments of the servicers in there.
[22:06.680 --> 22:13.360]  And so what that will mean to a court is, that there is no assignment of servicer, that
[22:13.360 --> 22:21.320]  this person claiming authority to collect on the note doesn't have that authority.
[22:21.320 --> 22:31.680]  And this is a very important issue because the banks have made such a horrible mess of
[22:31.680 --> 22:37.640]  the system that they don't know who wants the note.
[22:37.640 --> 22:42.280]  The notes have just gotten squandered around and lost and for the most part, the original
[22:42.280 --> 22:47.240]  documents have been destroyed and we'll talk about that in another time.
[22:47.240 --> 22:53.360]  But even if the original documents exist, nobody knows who has them.
[22:53.360 --> 22:58.800]  Nobody knows who has what claims against the property because it wasn't properly filed
[22:58.800 --> 23:00.400]  in the court record.
[23:00.400 --> 23:08.120]  And what you can do is, if say you have an entity attempting to foreclose, then you can
[23:08.120 --> 23:15.600]  go to the court and say he's filed a substitute trustee's deed, you go to the court and show
[23:15.600 --> 23:24.440]  that the name on the lien document that you signed creating the trust and assigning the
[23:24.440 --> 23:31.280]  trustee is not the name that's on the trustee's deed.
[23:31.280 --> 23:38.360]  And there's nothing in the court record showing that this entity has authority to file a trustee's
[23:38.360 --> 23:48.240]  deed, so you move the court to rule that the trustee's deed is fraudulent or at least
[23:48.240 --> 24:03.040]  is void and of no effect and stay that way until such time as the claimant can file the
[24:03.040 --> 24:11.920]  necessary documentation showing a complete chain of ownership of the lien document from
[24:11.920 --> 24:16.280]  the original lender to the current claimant.
[24:16.280 --> 24:22.000]  They're not going to be able to do that for the most part, let me on rare occasions.
[24:22.000 --> 24:30.360]  But even if they can, it's not terribly helpful because if you can find the errors in the
[24:30.360 --> 24:37.120]  record, then the first thing you do is go to the court and you can petition the court
[24:37.120 --> 24:43.000]  to correct the public record and the court has an interest in having the public record
[24:43.000 --> 24:51.240]  correct and show that this particular document because the requisite filings aren't there
[24:51.240 --> 24:58.600]  is not in accordance with standing law and therefore void, ask the court to rule if it's
[24:58.600 --> 24:59.600]  void.
[24:59.600 --> 25:05.840]  And if you can only do that in a exparte hearing just one side there, if you get that ruling,
[25:05.840 --> 25:15.160]  then you need to have a trust set up for the property and a lien from the trust in hand
[25:15.160 --> 25:21.040]  or actually if you can just set up a trust for the property and immediately move the
[25:21.040 --> 25:29.040]  property into a trust and you need to talk to people who know how to set up the trust.
[25:29.040 --> 25:38.120]  You can't be the grantor and the beneficiary because in that the court is going to say,
[25:38.120 --> 25:40.760]  well, it's just an alter ego of yourself.
[25:40.760 --> 25:46.920]  You need to make someone else the beneficiary, then establish a trustee.
[25:46.920 --> 25:52.040]  The trustee should not be a brother or sister or someone too closely related.
[25:52.040 --> 25:56.360]  And then if you're not sure you can trust the trustee, then you get a contract from
[25:56.360 --> 26:01.160]  the trustee making you the managing director of the trust, but that contract is private.
[26:01.160 --> 26:03.840]  So you'll have your trust set up.
[26:03.840 --> 26:13.040]  Now if the bank fixes their error and they come back and they try to file a lien against
[26:13.040 --> 26:16.720]  the property, it doesn't belong to you anymore.
[26:16.720 --> 26:20.040]  It belongs to the trust.
[26:20.040 --> 26:21.520]  Now they have a problem.
[26:21.520 --> 26:24.160]  Now they have an unsecured note.
[26:24.160 --> 26:26.520]  So this is one of the things that we're working on.
[26:26.520 --> 26:30.200]  Okay, that was what I wanted to address this evening.
[26:30.200 --> 26:32.600]  Now we're going to go to calls.
[26:32.600 --> 26:36.400]  We're going to go to Troy in North Carolina.
[26:36.400 --> 26:39.720]  Troy, the Hillbilly line is officially open.
[26:39.720 --> 26:42.280]  Hopefully you can understand it.
[26:42.280 --> 26:43.280]  All right.
[26:43.280 --> 26:48.800]  So I got a few questions on traffic and due process here.
[26:48.800 --> 26:54.520]  So the background is I was just pulled over for expired registration.
[26:54.520 --> 26:59.600]  The first question I got is when the trooper issues the citation, it was a computer print
[26:59.600 --> 27:03.960]  out and the signature is computer font.
[27:03.960 --> 27:09.520]  It's not actually a signature and there is a statute that says the officer must sign
[27:09.520 --> 27:10.520]  the citation.
[27:10.520 --> 27:14.680]  Is that a fatal flaw?
[27:14.680 --> 27:16.840]  I don't think so.
[27:16.840 --> 27:23.400]  There's a place we need to look and it's something I have looked at generally but not
[27:23.400 --> 27:27.960]  from a legal perspective and that is electronic signatures.
[27:27.960 --> 27:34.840]  There is a specific statute allowing the signing of the documents through electronic signature.
[27:34.840 --> 27:42.280]  What will be fatal on it, however, is noncompliance with 708.105 transportation code.
[27:42.280 --> 27:51.880]  Okay, wait a minute, he's in North Carolina so that means he's in North Carolina.
[27:51.880 --> 27:55.160]  What is that so because he may have a counterpart in North Carolina?
[27:55.160 --> 28:00.040]  Yeah, it's where the required statement of surcharge is required to be on the citation.
[28:00.040 --> 28:04.640]  It must be the largest typeface on the entire citation.
[28:04.640 --> 28:11.280]  That's a requisite here in Texas under 708.105 is that in any traffic ticket issued in the
[28:11.280 --> 28:18.960]  entire state, that statement must appear and it must be the largest typeface on the ticket.
[28:18.960 --> 28:19.960]  No exceptions.
[28:19.960 --> 28:23.160]  I haven't seen any of that.
[28:23.160 --> 28:25.840]  What was that so?
[28:25.840 --> 28:32.320]  708.105, it has to deal with the implementation of surcharges.
[28:32.320 --> 28:37.560]  It's written in the 708.105 transportation code.
[28:37.560 --> 28:43.240]  Yeah, you need to look and see what the particular requisite of the citation itself may be.
[28:43.240 --> 28:48.880]  For instance, most of the states are trying to increase revenue on citations by attaching
[28:48.880 --> 28:55.560]  administrative surcharges after the fact, which to me is a severe due process problem
[28:55.560 --> 29:02.680]  because those particular excess charges are never adjudicated yet they're levied and taken
[29:02.680 --> 29:09.680]  by force or they will not renew your license, pay up or you're not getting it is basically
[29:09.680 --> 29:12.720]  what it amounts to, that's extortion.
[29:12.720 --> 29:17.560]  Those amounts are never decided judicially.
[29:17.560 --> 29:20.400]  So right off the bat, there's a severe problem with them.
[29:20.400 --> 29:24.000]  I don't care what state you're in.
[29:24.000 --> 29:29.640]  If you have surcharges being added on, then there's the issue of those charges never going
[29:29.640 --> 29:33.840]  through an adjudicated process before they're levied against the individual.
[29:33.840 --> 29:36.840]  That's a problem.
[29:36.840 --> 29:40.120]  But if you'll hang on, we'll finish this conversation up with you on the other side.
[29:40.120 --> 29:41.120]  We're about to go to break.
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[32:25.720 --> 32:27.080]  Hi folks, we are back.
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[32:29.080 --> 32:34.520]  Okay, we're going to go ahead here and we're going to try to finish up with Troy in North
[32:34.520 --> 32:35.520]  Carolina.
[32:35.520 --> 32:39.520]  Then we'll take Doug and Juan and the rest of the folks that are on the board here.
[32:39.520 --> 32:42.520]  All right, Troy, let's get this wrapped up in the tin.
[32:42.520 --> 32:49.520]  All right, I just got a couple more of them real quick, so I'll call them before I get
[32:49.520 --> 32:56.520]  started.
[32:56.520 --> 33:03.120]  I'm looking at the actual statute and it says I've willfully displayed an expired registration
[33:03.120 --> 33:06.520]  on a vehicle knowing the same to be expired.
[33:06.520 --> 33:13.880]  So, if I'm willfully and knowingly doing this, did he have probable cause to pull me over
[33:13.880 --> 33:19.000]  if part of the element of the crime is that I must knowingly do it?
[33:19.000 --> 33:21.520]  Yeah, he didn't ask me while we were driving.
[33:21.520 --> 33:26.080]  You're talking about the difference in one of the elements that has to be proven versus
[33:26.080 --> 33:29.240]  one that may not.
[33:29.240 --> 33:34.480]  First off, does the laws in your state require a culpable mental state for this crime to
[33:34.480 --> 33:36.240]  be proven in court?
[33:36.240 --> 33:41.040]  If it doesn't, whether it's willful or not is irrelevant.
[33:41.040 --> 33:48.960]  Okay, so that won't make any difference as far as the willfulness goes unless the statute
[33:48.960 --> 33:53.360]  specifically requires willfulness to be a part of the act.
[33:53.360 --> 33:58.320]  Now, that goes back to the way it is here in Texas.
[33:58.320 --> 34:02.520]  It's only an offense to display an expired registration.
[34:02.520 --> 34:07.920]  It's not an offense to not display one at all.
[34:07.920 --> 34:12.200]  And it sounds like your statute there is saying exactly the same thing.
[34:12.200 --> 34:13.200]  Yes.
[34:13.200 --> 34:19.680]  Now, the statute here does give the officer probable cause to pull you over if you don't
[34:19.680 --> 34:26.560]  have it to determine whether or not you have one in the glove box.
[34:26.560 --> 34:35.040]  But he can't write you a ticket for not displaying it, only if you are displaying it and it is
[34:35.040 --> 34:36.040]  expired.
[34:36.040 --> 34:43.960]  Yes, I guess they're chatting with that, but he didn't ask me if I knew if it was expired,
[34:43.960 --> 34:47.040]  which is part of the statute, it says I'm...
[34:47.040 --> 34:52.560]  Let me address that part.
[34:52.560 --> 35:00.480]  If he saw you operating the vehicle and it has an expired plate on it and there wasn't
[35:00.480 --> 35:09.680]  someone in the vehicle with a gunpoint that you had, then in law he would have reasonable
[35:09.680 --> 35:19.080]  probable cause to believe that you were knowingly and intentionally operating the vehicle.
[35:19.080 --> 35:24.800]  And the vehicle clearly had an expired plate on it.
[35:24.800 --> 35:31.360]  So that would give him reasonable probable cause or prima facie evidence to indicate
[35:31.360 --> 35:37.680]  that you were willfully operating knowing that the plate was false.
[35:37.680 --> 35:44.560]  Now if you could come back and show that you didn't know it was false, like I had the sticker
[35:44.560 --> 35:52.800]  on there and it fell off or something else, he would have been within his rights to pull
[35:52.800 --> 35:54.800]  you over.
[35:54.800 --> 36:01.200]  Yeah, they just have to prove that I knew that it was expired.
[36:01.200 --> 36:06.560]  He didn't have to prove it there, all he needed was prima facie.
[36:06.560 --> 36:09.960]  Right, right, just in court, they would need it.
[36:09.960 --> 36:14.840]  I would expect him to ask me that question, but he didn't ask, if I know...
[36:14.840 --> 36:18.040]  Oh, I'm not sure.
[36:18.040 --> 36:23.960]  No, he didn't ask you, that's why the police say, do you know how fast you were going?
[36:23.960 --> 36:25.880]  They go, don't you?
[36:25.880 --> 36:28.880]  That's where that question goes to.
[36:28.880 --> 36:33.440]  That was so obscure that he didn't even bother because I would not have guessed that anyway.
[36:33.440 --> 36:38.320]  That's why he just came up and said, I pulled you over because your registration's expired.
[36:38.320 --> 36:42.360]  So he didn't even ask, so that would be difficult for him to prove.
[36:42.360 --> 36:45.640]  Okay, I got one little final question here.
[36:45.640 --> 36:54.120]  This is in a section of the code that's 20-11, and then there's six other line items, one
[36:54.120 --> 37:02.120]  through six, and about half of them actually indicate the class of misdemeanor, like class
[37:02.120 --> 37:04.480]  one, class two, class three.
[37:04.480 --> 37:11.080]  This particular one does not indicate that it's a misdemeanor or the class, but how does
[37:11.080 --> 37:12.080]  that work?
[37:12.080 --> 37:14.040]  Where would it be just...
[37:14.040 --> 37:26.240]  Okay, in Texas, it's in the code that crimes are designated felonies or misdemeanors.
[37:26.240 --> 37:36.720]  If a statute prohibits a behavior but does not designate a felony or misdemeanor, then
[37:36.720 --> 37:42.840]  it's not a crime, it's just a suggestion.
[37:42.840 --> 37:48.040]  I've read your code in North Carolina, but I don't remember if that one was in there
[37:48.040 --> 37:49.040]  or not.
[37:49.040 --> 37:52.440]  Yeah, I haven't looked for that.
[37:52.440 --> 37:55.600]  I'll try to find that.
[37:55.600 --> 38:01.360]  The only one, the very last one, which I don't think it applies, the very last number six
[38:01.360 --> 38:05.800]  that's the in-person violating provisions of the subdivision, Charlie Guilty of a class
[38:05.800 --> 38:11.560]  two misdemeanor, is I don't think the whole section is a subdivision, and I guess I don't
[38:11.560 --> 38:16.560]  know how the structure works.
[38:16.560 --> 38:23.000]  Okay, you'd have to look at whatever subdivision you're in.
[38:23.000 --> 38:29.440]  If you go back to the beginning, it'll show you how the code is broken up.
[38:29.440 --> 38:35.760]  I remember the penal code and Code of Criminal Procedure for North Carolina, but I don't
[38:35.760 --> 38:39.200]  remember the traffic code.
[38:39.200 --> 38:44.480]  It will most likely be the entire traffic code.
[38:44.480 --> 38:52.000]  Okay, yeah, that's the part I'm kind of struggle with, it's just the structure of the code
[38:52.000 --> 38:53.000]  itself.
[38:53.000 --> 38:54.000]  What is the section?
[38:54.000 --> 38:55.000]  What is the subdivision?
[38:55.000 --> 39:00.240]  Just the nomenclature, and it's very, the internet searches and cannot really find anything
[39:00.240 --> 39:01.240]  out there.
[39:01.240 --> 39:06.840]  In taxes, we have totally different sets of code.
[39:06.840 --> 39:13.320]  But in North Carolina, the penal code is in section 14.
[39:13.320 --> 39:18.000]  Code of Criminal Procedure is, I think, is section 15.
[39:18.000 --> 39:22.840]  And so the traffic code is probably in a similar section.
[39:22.840 --> 39:27.160]  So I would suspect that that's what it refers to as the entire traffic code.
[39:27.160 --> 39:30.600]  Yeah, it's in section 20, yeah.
[39:30.600 --> 39:31.600]  And this is 20-11.
[39:31.600 --> 39:34.600]  It's a pretty large code section.
[39:34.600 --> 39:42.800]  I don't know, it doesn't say in my registration thing, it does not say what, if it's a misdemeanor
[39:42.800 --> 39:45.600]  at all, and what level.
[39:45.600 --> 39:52.640]  Yeah, well, if all citations under that section are classified misdemeanors, then it wouldn't
[39:52.640 --> 39:54.600]  be necessary to put it there.
[39:54.600 --> 39:56.600]  Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
[39:56.600 --> 40:02.360]  Yeah, that's all I had for you guys, I appreciate it.
[40:02.360 --> 40:04.720]  You didn't even stomp one of the chomps.
[40:04.720 --> 40:08.520]  I didn't think I would with those questions.
[40:08.520 --> 40:12.320]  Okay, thank you.
[40:12.320 --> 40:15.120]  And now we're going to go to Doug in Texas.
[40:15.120 --> 40:18.120]  Doug, what have you got for us today?
[40:18.120 --> 40:26.880]  Well, I just got home and I got this real official plaintiff's courtesy warning notice
[40:26.880 --> 40:35.440]  from the city of Bastrop, and they have a picture of, it looks like my truck, and I'm
[40:35.440 --> 40:44.320]  going through a red light, it's bigger than crap, I mean, just, just one right there.
[40:44.320 --> 40:50.360]  Certain parts of this letter have already been red, no, there's an injury in there.
[40:50.360 --> 41:01.200]  So, slow down, yellow, stop on red, stop on red is actually red and red, and they have
[41:01.200 --> 41:11.680]  these beautiful pictures of my truck going through a red light camera or whatever, and
[41:11.680 --> 41:24.200]  I just, well, it's just a courtesy warning notice or whatever, that, I know it's, so
[41:24.200 --> 41:28.560]  they didn't give you a citation, they just gave you a warning?
[41:28.560 --> 41:30.760]  They gave me a courtesy warning.
[41:30.760 --> 41:35.200]  Well, that's pretty cool.
[41:35.200 --> 41:37.160]  You don't even have to fight it.
[41:37.160 --> 41:47.680]  Well, and I don't care what they do, you know, they, if they need money out of me, they come
[41:47.680 --> 41:55.280]  out to my house, if they can find it and bring their dealings and hope that they've got more
[41:55.280 --> 42:01.400]  than I do, so I have a chance to look at it.
[42:01.400 --> 42:03.400]  Okay, did you have a question?
[42:03.400 --> 42:15.320]  You know, the question was, can I sue them for harassment or whatever, since they...
[42:15.320 --> 42:16.320]  No.
[42:16.320 --> 42:26.480]  No, you can't, harassment would have to be them annoying you after you have instructed
[42:26.480 --> 42:28.480]  them not to annoy you.
[42:28.480 --> 42:29.480]  Oh.
[42:29.480 --> 42:38.080]  What I need to do is preemptively get in there and tell them, don't do this crap again, right?
[42:38.080 --> 42:47.160]  Yeah, go down there and do that, Doug, and then let me know how that works out for you.
[42:47.160 --> 42:51.600]  I think that would come under the heading of poking the bear.
[42:51.600 --> 42:54.040]  Well, it's worth it.
[42:54.040 --> 42:56.040]  It's worth the shot.
[42:56.040 --> 43:09.440]  It would be against the local retarded yokels and they don't, you know, I was amazed when
[43:09.440 --> 43:15.160]  my wife showed me that, and I said, well, what is this, a choke, because they can drive
[43:15.160 --> 43:23.040]  like from Smithville into Bastrop, and you have a two-mile lane of cars moving at, you
[43:23.040 --> 43:28.520]  know, three miles an hour, looking at the burned-out areas, and there's nothing other.
[43:28.520 --> 43:35.640]  I mean, you get up there and light changes, green, and I hit the accelerator, and by the
[43:35.640 --> 43:40.040]  time I get to, you know, three feet, it's turning red.
[43:40.040 --> 43:43.040]  Okay, Doug, we're about to go to break.
[43:43.040 --> 43:48.040]  Okay, this is Randy Captain, David Steen, David Craig with our radio, we've got Juan
[43:48.040 --> 44:01.040]  and Texas and John and Georgia, we'll see you there, we'll pick you up on the other side.
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[46:15.040 --> 46:35.040]  We are back with this rule of law radio with Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[46:35.040 --> 46:39.040]  Right now we are talking with Doug in Texas.
[46:39.040 --> 46:42.040]  Alright Doug, let's see if we can get this wrapped up here.
[46:42.040 --> 46:45.040]  What else do you want to go to?
[46:45.040 --> 46:53.040]  I want to really hear you, I'd rather hear you scream than hear Eddie whisper.
[46:53.040 --> 47:03.040]  I think the guy called over here when he was talking about BWI and said his kid wasn't
[47:03.040 --> 47:12.040]  driving, acting, transportation, this and that and I agree with you Eddie that words
[47:12.040 --> 47:19.040]  mean something and we don't have any law against traveling while intoxicated.
[47:19.040 --> 47:26.040]  They might have one for, well let's see, you could be endangering people doing this
[47:26.040 --> 47:35.040]  and that but the specific term of grabbing while intoxicated which is, I think now it's
[47:35.040 --> 47:40.040]  like capital offense or something.
[47:40.040 --> 47:42.040]  Something like that.
[47:42.040 --> 47:44.040]  Right.
[47:44.040 --> 47:48.040]  It's not capital, they can't put you to death for it yet unless you actually kill
[47:48.040 --> 47:51.040]  somebody else in the process but they're working on it.
[47:51.040 --> 47:54.040]  Pretty soon they're going to make it where blowing your nose without government
[47:54.040 --> 47:56.040]  permission to capital offense.
[47:56.040 --> 48:04.040]  Well, spending on officers, what spending on a court officer would be.
[48:04.040 --> 48:06.040]  That's an assault.
[48:06.040 --> 48:16.040]  It's an assault and they can do whatever they want to you and that's not all that
[48:16.040 --> 48:24.040]  important but it's what the police do back to their masters if they treat them with
[48:24.040 --> 48:26.040]  disrespect or something like that.
[48:26.040 --> 48:28.040]  That's very important.
[48:28.040 --> 48:35.040]  Okay Eddie, that was kind of, my wife was so concerned.
[48:35.040 --> 48:39.040]  Look they had pictures of this.
[48:39.040 --> 48:50.040]  It's heard of my fine truck.
[48:50.040 --> 48:53.040]  Does it have a fine picture of who's behind the wheel?
[48:53.040 --> 48:55.040]  Not at all.
[48:55.040 --> 49:01.040]  Well then I guess they have a problem proving their case, don't they?
[49:01.040 --> 49:05.040]  I would think that.
[49:05.040 --> 49:10.040]  This goes right back to my argument, bill of pains and penalties.
[49:10.040 --> 49:13.040]  It's illegal on its face.
[49:13.040 --> 49:19.040]  I understand that Eddie, but I just couldn't believe it.
[49:19.040 --> 49:25.040]  I was laughing, I thought it was hilarious.
[49:25.040 --> 49:28.040]  I said, oh this is great.
[49:28.040 --> 49:38.040]  Don't the fat baby this happens again, and they actually not proceed legally against
[49:38.040 --> 49:45.040]  being to do something to me and I was just cracking up as she said this has been
[49:45.040 --> 49:48.040]  dangerousuffs.
[49:48.040 --> 49:55.800]  You know, well, but, you know, let's say I've driven, like, half an hour to the last
[49:55.800 --> 49:58.120]  couple of years, and...
[49:58.120 --> 50:02.640]  Doug, we have some other colleagues.
[50:02.640 --> 50:03.640]  Have a question.
[50:03.640 --> 50:04.640]  What is your question?
[50:04.640 --> 50:07.120]  Otherwise, we need to move on.
[50:07.120 --> 50:11.800]  We've got people waiting.
[50:11.800 --> 50:15.840]  My question is, why is Eddie so much smarter than you are, Randy?
[50:15.840 --> 50:17.560]  I don't know.
[50:17.560 --> 50:20.880]  It must be that tea that he drinks.
[50:20.880 --> 50:22.360]  Let me go.
[50:22.360 --> 50:23.360]  Okay.
[50:23.360 --> 50:28.960]  It wasn't intended that way, but it just came out that way.
[50:28.960 --> 50:29.960]  Yeah, it did.
[50:29.960 --> 50:30.960]  Okay.
[50:30.960 --> 50:34.080]  We're going to go to Juan in Texas.
[50:34.080 --> 50:36.680]  Juan, what do you have for us?
[50:36.680 --> 50:37.680]  Hello, gentlemen.
[50:37.680 --> 50:38.680]  How are you?
[50:38.680 --> 50:39.680]  How are you all doing tonight?
[50:39.680 --> 50:40.680]  I'm doing okay.
[50:40.680 --> 50:41.680]  So far so good.
[50:41.680 --> 50:42.680]  Good, good.
[50:42.680 --> 50:45.800]  I'm not very smart today, but I'm working on it.
[50:45.800 --> 50:52.040]  I want to first do a more intelligent question than pick the picture.
[50:52.040 --> 50:56.640]  My question is, I know you've been talking about all the foreclosures.
[50:56.640 --> 51:01.560]  When you do a refinance, is there anything...
[51:01.560 --> 51:02.560]  Wait a minute.
[51:02.560 --> 51:03.560]  Hold on.
[51:03.560 --> 51:06.560]  I am having a real tough time understanding you.
[51:06.560 --> 51:07.560]  Okay.
[51:07.560 --> 51:08.560]  Can you hear me now?
[51:08.560 --> 51:10.560]  That's a little better.
[51:10.560 --> 51:11.560]  Okay.
[51:11.560 --> 51:19.080]  I know you've been talking about foreclosures, but what about when you refinance a mortgage?
[51:19.080 --> 51:20.080]  What are the...
[51:20.080 --> 51:27.320]  Is there like any pitfalls that people that are refinancing need to be aware of?
[51:27.320 --> 51:37.600]  And I know they're not as bad as the foreclosures, but is there anything that I can do to refinance?
[51:37.600 --> 51:42.680]  They're not as bad as they have been since the sky's been falling in on all of them,
[51:42.680 --> 51:52.880]  but if you are going to refinance, if you can't get a fixed rate, then I would stay
[51:52.880 --> 51:53.880]  away from it.
[51:53.880 --> 52:01.760]  These adjustable rate mortgages are designed essentially to squeeze as much money out of
[52:01.760 --> 52:05.000]  you as possible.
[52:05.000 --> 52:09.920]  And they're just, they're fraudulent by their nature.
[52:09.920 --> 52:16.400]  You'll start out with a low payment, and then a couple of years down the road, your payment
[52:16.400 --> 52:17.600]  is shoot up out of sight.
[52:17.600 --> 52:22.400]  So I would be very, very cautious about any adjustable rate mortgage.
[52:22.400 --> 52:30.200]  If you can get a decent rate at a fixed rate mortgage, then essentially that's a pretty
[52:30.200 --> 52:31.760]  good policy.
[52:31.760 --> 52:38.240]  We have property values dropping like a stone.
[52:38.240 --> 52:44.560]  And we expect the dollars in beginning to inflate pretty serious right now.
[52:44.560 --> 52:49.080]  You'll notice prices everywhere going up.
[52:49.080 --> 52:57.680]  Once you get a mortgage and extract that value out of the mortgage, then it doesn't increase
[52:57.680 --> 52:58.840]  with inflation.
[52:58.840 --> 52:59.840]  Correct.
[52:59.840 --> 53:07.760]  If you can get a fixed rate mortgage, you take that money out, put it in gold, silver
[53:07.760 --> 53:17.560]  or something, then let the dollar inflate and property values drop, then you reach a
[53:17.560 --> 53:23.960]  point depending on how much property values drop in Texas, in other states like California
[53:23.960 --> 53:27.440]  and Michigan, they're going in the toilet.
[53:27.440 --> 53:31.840]  If they get low enough, then you walk away from your property and buy the one across
[53:31.840 --> 53:36.240]  the street with chump change and come up with no mortgage at all.
[53:36.240 --> 53:38.800]  So there are a lot of calculations to make.
[53:38.800 --> 53:39.800]  Okay.
[53:39.800 --> 53:45.560]  But as far as the things you mentioned and the foreclosures where you go search with
[53:45.560 --> 53:54.760]  the county to determine if anybody has had a lien or on your property because they stole
[53:54.760 --> 54:02.280]  the mortgages to a bank, you know, you know how they exchange, they keep selling them.
[54:02.280 --> 54:03.280]  Okay.
[54:03.280 --> 54:09.120]  That is an interesting question.
[54:09.120 --> 54:19.040]  If you went to a bank to get a refinance and in order to get the refinance, they're going
[54:19.040 --> 54:22.400]  to want you to have title insurance.
[54:22.400 --> 54:23.600]  Right.
[54:23.600 --> 54:29.720]  If the title company comes back and says, well, we can insure you, but we'll have to
[54:29.720 --> 54:36.600]  exclude this, this, this, this and this, that gives you a cause of action against your current
[54:36.600 --> 54:37.600]  lender.
[54:37.600 --> 54:38.600]  Okay.
[54:38.600 --> 54:41.840]  And it would give you a claim.
[54:41.840 --> 54:50.880]  If you can't get the loan because you can't get effective title insurance, then you're
[54:50.880 --> 54:55.680]  harmed by the amount of the loan.
[54:55.680 --> 55:02.880]  And that would give you standing to go back and sue the original lender for chain of title.
[55:02.880 --> 55:03.880]  Okay.
[55:03.880 --> 55:17.480]  And if they can't prove up chain of title, then you could ask the court for a judgment
[55:17.480 --> 55:28.280]  that their claim that their deed of trust is void because they can't prove up that they
[55:28.280 --> 55:32.200]  have standing to enforce it.
[55:32.200 --> 55:37.800]  And now they have a problem and very good chance if you look through your court records
[55:37.800 --> 55:44.480]  and see what's filed in there and if it looks like they've screwed up, then you go for the
[55:44.480 --> 55:53.760]  loan, let the title company offer you a title policy that doesn't assure anything that Doug,
[55:53.760 --> 55:59.440]  who, who was just on before you, he had exactly that experience.
[55:59.440 --> 56:04.320]  He went to the title company and they should sure will write your title policy, but they
[56:04.320 --> 56:08.920]  excluded everything.
[56:08.920 --> 56:12.760]  So that gives you no title insurance, only the semblance of it.
[56:12.760 --> 56:18.080]  So that gives you, that gives you a judicatable harm.
[56:18.080 --> 56:27.480]  You turn around and sue the lender, sue him to prove up standing, agency standing in capacity.
[56:27.480 --> 56:30.680]  When he can't do that, then he has a problem.
[56:30.680 --> 56:31.680]  Okay.
[56:31.680 --> 56:36.840]  And very good chance he'll come to you and make you a better deal than the refinance.
[56:36.840 --> 56:37.840]  Right.
[56:37.840 --> 56:38.840]  Okay.
[56:38.840 --> 56:45.320]  So maybe, do you have like a website or need people to have good coverage on that?
[56:45.320 --> 56:46.320]  Yeah.
[56:46.320 --> 56:47.320]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com.
[56:47.320 --> 56:48.320]  Okay.
[56:48.320 --> 56:53.320]  Say that one more time.
[56:53.320 --> 56:54.320]  Yeah.
[56:54.320 --> 56:55.320]  Remedies, R-E-M-E-D-I-E-S-N real estate.
[56:55.320 --> 56:56.320]  Okay.
[56:56.320 --> 56:57.320]  Well, okay.
[56:57.320 --> 56:58.320]  Well, okay.
[56:58.320 --> 56:59.320]  Well, I appreciate your information.
[56:59.320 --> 57:00.320]  Okay.
[57:00.320 --> 57:01.320]  You guys have a good show.
[57:01.320 --> 57:02.320]  I'm a new listener and I'm going to continue to listen.
[57:02.320 --> 57:03.320]  Okay.
[57:03.320 --> 57:09.320]  Thank you.
[57:09.320 --> 57:10.320]  Okay.
[57:10.320 --> 57:14.680]  Now we're going to go to Joe in Texas.
[57:14.680 --> 57:16.960]  Hi, guys.
[57:16.960 --> 57:21.600]  I have a question or I have a comment leading to a question.
[57:21.600 --> 57:27.320]  I'm having a hearing with the Unemployment Commission and I had appealed the decision.
[57:27.320 --> 57:31.280]  They want me to reimburse like $292.
[57:31.280 --> 57:34.760]  And the person that was trying to straighten that out the other day or last week called
[57:34.760 --> 57:40.280]  me and he was discussing to me what was going to be, you know, in the hearing.
[57:40.280 --> 57:44.040]  And in the middle of the process, I told him I have to hire an attorney just to try to
[57:44.040 --> 57:48.000]  get this thing resolved and the other issue.
[57:48.000 --> 57:51.840]  And in the middle of the conversation, she said, well, I'm a judge.
[57:51.840 --> 57:55.240]  So my question, you know, then I started asking, what do you mean you're a judge?
[57:55.240 --> 57:59.040]  Just like I'm a judge and I'm explaining to you what's going to happen, what we're going
[57:59.040 --> 58:05.720]  to be, you know, about this hearing about, but my question is, a judge is calling you.
[58:05.720 --> 58:06.720]  Yeah.
[58:06.720 --> 58:07.720]  He's the one that called me.
[58:07.720 --> 58:08.720]  Fat chance.
[58:08.720 --> 58:15.840]  And so my question is, what should I do because I'm going to have a hearing with the same
[58:15.840 --> 58:20.040]  guy, you know, who told me that he was a judge.
[58:20.040 --> 58:21.040]  Okay.
[58:21.040 --> 58:25.040]  We need to find out what he told you, Susie.
[58:25.040 --> 58:29.920]  We need to decide what you want to do about going to try to disqualify him if you don't
[58:29.920 --> 58:31.920]  think you can trust him.
[58:31.920 --> 58:32.920]  Yeah.
[58:32.920 --> 58:33.920]  Hold on.
[58:33.920 --> 58:34.920]  We're about to go to break.
[58:34.920 --> 58:38.360]  This is Randy Calvin, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, we live on radio.
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[01:03:32.560 --> 01:03:59.560]  Thank you.
[01:03:59.560 --> 01:04:18.560]  Yes, Rad, did they send me the package?
[01:04:18.560 --> 01:04:23.400]  He's already sent me the package and I have a hearing on March of that one with the unimportant
[01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:24.400]  with him.
[01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:31.800]  He's just going to get my form and product to testify that I did work, I did some earning,
[01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:38.400]  but at the same time, when I got hired, I immediately called him to cancel my unemployment,
[01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:42.400]  but they didn't do it, but they pursued it.
[01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:49.400]  I winded up to that circumstance and that's the reason I was asking you because he's a
[01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:50.400]  judge.
[01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:56.400]  He's going to hang up the phone with me because I got into him about the situation and he
[01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.400]  being a judge, he had an advantage on me.
[01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:03.400]  What the heck is a judge doing calling you?
[01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:05.400]  That's the question I'm going to ask you.
[01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:09.400]  Of course, I have an attorney and I'm thinking about calling them.
[01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:11.400]  I'm using it for now.
[01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:12.400]  Call the attorney.
[01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:18.400]  If this guy is a judge and he calls you, that is absolutely inappropriate.
[01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.400]  That's what I mentioned to him.
[01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.400]  I said, you have an advantage over me because you're a judge.
[01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.400]  It should be one of the representatives from your department or from that department to
[01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.400]  call me, not a judge.
[01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:33.400]  If he is the judge, you need to file a complaint against him.
[01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.400]  Absolutely, you need to talk to your attorney.
[01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:37.400]  Okay.
[01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.400]  Well, then I'll go ahead and do that this week.
[01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:40.400]  Okay.
[01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:41.400]  Well, thanks for your time.
[01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:42.400]  Okay.
[01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:43.400]  Thank you for calling.
[01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:49.400]  Now we're going to go to John in Georgia.
[01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:50.400]  Hello.
[01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.400]  Hello, John.
[01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:53.400]  Hey, Randy.
[01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.400]  Oh my God, I don't even know where to start now.
[01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:57.400]  I started off with one thing and I got about 30.
[01:05:57.400 --> 01:05:59.400]  That guy, he had that debt on the nail.
[01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:01.400]  I got two people I got to tell that to.
[01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.400]  He's poking at the bear.
[01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:07.400]  You know, if you get away with that, I had a girl.
[01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.400]  She went through some terrible things.
[01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:15.400]  She ended up being in a confrontation with one of the big owners of this town here.
[01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.400]  They're families that own this town for so many years.
[01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.400]  She was in the right and got into a mess with the police.
[01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:23.400]  I filed criminal complaints against the police.
[01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.400]  Had a couple of them suspended.
[01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.400]  Had to take anger management classes and I explained it to her.
[01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.400]  And one of them had to be the same lady.
[01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.400]  Well, they don't have the complaint on file anywhere.
[01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:34.400]  It was supposed to be as long as it was written.
[01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.400]  I've got my friends, got a copy of it.
[01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:39.400]  Anyways, I explained to her what was going on.
[01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.400]  And the lady is just, this police officer is just arrogant.
[01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:43.400]  And she's with the head and run division.
[01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.400]  She's the only one there.
[01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.400]  So I explained to her, I told her, and it's the biggest thing.
[01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:50.400]  You know, and you tell people all the time, I do it.
[01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:52.400]  And I try to tell people if they won't do it.
[01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.400]  Even Gary here, I told him, he's going through a battle right now.
[01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.400]  Which is why I called in.
[01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.400]  But these people will not file complaints.
[01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.400]  I don't know why they're afraid to do so.
[01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:08.400]  But the same thing they do is they put permanent scars on our record.
[01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.400]  I feel like we need to put permanent scars on their record.
[01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.400]  They'll definitely stop doing it.
[01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.400]  Exactly. I agree.
[01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:21.400]  And I do run into this, that people are afraid to file criminal complaints.
[01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:26.400]  They are probably the safest things to file.
[01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:32.400]  Well, it's because of their nature.
[01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:37.400]  They just notice that you have reason to believe.
[01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:39.400]  And you're not even saying somebody did something wrong.
[01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:44.400]  Just that you have reason to believe based on these facts that this person could be in crime.
[01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:53.400]  And in order to get the public to be there, the police's partners in the fight against crime,
[01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:58.400]  you have to be protected when you report crime.
[01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:04.400]  And I got beat up recently over it, but that is incredibly unusual.
[01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:10.400]  And very good chance these two are going to wind up in prison before this is over.
[01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:16.400]  Well, I pray for you that it happens because, you know, with my case that I had with that lady,
[01:08:16.400 --> 01:08:18.400]  we got caught, somebody stole my vehicle.
[01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:20.400]  I bought it from the police auction.
[01:08:20.400 --> 01:08:25.400]  They wrote me a citation for not registering the vehicle because the police auction hadn't sent me the paperwork yet.
[01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:28.400]  I had it towed to a shop to have a key made for it.
[01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:34.400]  And somehow they stole it and they got into the car and they drove it without the key and hit some people.
[01:08:34.400 --> 01:08:38.400]  And, you know, when I bought it from the police auction, it had no key.
[01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:42.400]  It sat in the police impound for three weeks while they looked for it.
[01:08:42.400 --> 01:08:44.400]  They impounded the vehicle and couldn't find it.
[01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:48.400]  And then a friend of mine said, hey, I seen your car down in the police impound.
[01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:49.400]  So I called them up.
[01:08:49.400 --> 01:08:53.400]  I got a $300 to something dollar bill to get it out of impound.
[01:08:53.400 --> 01:09:00.400]  Well, you ought to sue them for holding your car and denying you your properties.
[01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:04.400]  Oh, that was, that was my news compared to what I went through.
[01:09:04.400 --> 01:09:10.400]  Because when I went there, the lady that was in charge of the hit and run division here in Columbus,
[01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:15.400]  she had a neighbor that was one of the people that got hit by that car.
[01:09:15.400 --> 01:09:17.400]  And she tried to tell me that I drove the car.
[01:09:17.400 --> 01:09:19.400]  I said, I've got record receipts right here.
[01:09:19.400 --> 01:09:21.400]  I've got a shop receipt where the car was at.
[01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:23.400]  I wasn't anywhere near the place.
[01:09:23.400 --> 01:09:27.400]  And they had a witness that said it was a black man that went running out of the car
[01:09:27.400 --> 01:09:30.400]  and they eventually caught the guy that stole the car.
[01:09:30.400 --> 01:09:34.400]  And so she tried to get my insurance company to cover that car
[01:09:34.400 --> 01:09:37.400]  because it was her neighbor across the street that got hit by the guy.
[01:09:37.400 --> 01:09:39.400]  It was just such a weird coincidence.
[01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:42.400]  And I told her my insurance company isn't going to cover it
[01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:45.400]  because the guy didn't have permission to drive it number one.
[01:09:45.400 --> 01:09:47.400]  And number two, I just bought it.
[01:09:47.400 --> 01:09:53.400]  And under Georgia law, it's covered for 30 days when you first purchase a vehicle as long as you got a receipt,
[01:09:53.400 --> 01:09:55.400]  but I wasn't the one that drove it.
[01:09:55.400 --> 01:10:01.400]  So she threatened to have me go to court and charge me with a failure to maintain records
[01:10:01.400 --> 01:10:06.400]  and a failure to produce insurance.
[01:10:06.400 --> 01:10:08.400]  And I told her ma'am, the car was never put on the road.
[01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:09.400]  She said, I don't care.
[01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:10.400]  You got it at that shop somehow.
[01:10:10.400 --> 01:10:12.400]  So ma'am, here's the record bill.
[01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:14.400]  And she goes, listen, I'm not going to put up with this.
[01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:18.400]  She said, officer, I'm at Lieutenant, not Lieutenant Sergeant.
[01:10:18.400 --> 01:10:19.400]  I'm not going to say any names.
[01:10:19.400 --> 01:10:21.400]  He came in, her boss.
[01:10:21.400 --> 01:10:23.400]  And I said, look here, Sergeant.
[01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:25.400]  I said, you know, I came in here as a victim.
[01:10:25.400 --> 01:10:28.400]  Yeah, as a victim.
[01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:29.400]  I said, I'm leaving.
[01:10:29.400 --> 01:10:30.400]  Here's a criminal.
[01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:31.400]  I'm getting two citations.
[01:10:31.400 --> 01:10:33.400]  I said, I feel like I'm getting beat up here.
[01:10:33.400 --> 01:10:35.400]  She jumped up and said, I'll take this gun.
[01:10:35.400 --> 01:10:36.400]  I'll shoot you.
[01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:37.400]  I don't have to beat you up.
[01:10:37.400 --> 01:10:39.400]  And I said, what?
[01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:42.400]  I said, honest to God, truth, I got all the paperwork.
[01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:43.400]  I said, that's it.
[01:10:43.400 --> 01:10:44.400]  I said, I'm done here.
[01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:45.400]  I'm done here.
[01:10:45.400 --> 01:10:47.400]  You're not going to threaten me like that.
[01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:49.400]  And the sergeant said, oh, OK, everybody calm down.
[01:10:49.400 --> 01:10:51.400]  I said, I was calm through the whole thing.
[01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:52.400]  This lady threatened to shoot me.
[01:10:52.400 --> 01:10:54.400]  I said, I'm not going to sit here and take that.
[01:10:54.400 --> 01:10:55.400]  I said, I'm out of here.
[01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:57.400]  And so I grabbed my two citations.
[01:10:57.400 --> 01:10:58.400]  I show up for court.
[01:10:58.400 --> 01:11:01.400]  And they don't even want to hear the case.
[01:11:01.400 --> 01:11:06.400]  The case that she ended up spending a minute before was for the girl that got hit by the
[01:11:06.400 --> 01:11:09.400]  guy that stole the car, which I can't feel witness.
[01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:10.400]  I wasn't there.
[01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:13.400]  So the judge throws me out of court.
[01:11:13.400 --> 01:11:15.400]  And I never even open my mouth.
[01:11:15.400 --> 01:11:16.400]  So I get out of court.
[01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:18.400]  I file a criminal complaint against the lady.
[01:11:18.400 --> 01:11:22.400]  She gets two weeks' suspension and has to take anger management classes.
[01:11:22.400 --> 01:11:24.400]  So I leave out of there the whole time.
[01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:26.400]  Every time I drive around calling this, I'm shaking them up.
[01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:28.400]  I'm just saying, oh, these people are going to shoot me.
[01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:32.400]  I'm going to have to be honest, you know, it's terrifying to me because I've never
[01:11:32.400 --> 01:11:33.400]  done anything like that.
[01:11:33.400 --> 01:11:38.400]  But I come to find out that when you do that, then they have more respect for you.
[01:11:38.400 --> 01:11:40.400]  Anyway, absolutely right they do.
[01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:43.400]  And they tend not to come after you because...
[01:11:43.400 --> 01:11:49.400]  Well, when it all boils down to it, my life has ended up getting suspended.
[01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:52.400]  I got that cleared up because I challenged them.
[01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:53.400]  I didn't back down.
[01:11:53.400 --> 01:11:54.400]  They wanted to put me bargain off that.
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:55.400]  Put me bargain off it.
[01:11:55.400 --> 01:11:56.400]  You've got to be out of here.
[01:11:56.400 --> 01:11:58.400]  So we got into it.
[01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:02.400]  And the first prosecutor they sent down there, she says, well, you had to have a license on
[01:12:02.400 --> 01:12:03.400]  your tag when you drove it.
[01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:05.400]  I said, damn, I did not have to have a license.
[01:12:05.400 --> 01:12:09.400]  I said, if you're tested, if you're tested, if you're tested, if you're tested, if you
[01:12:09.400 --> 01:12:11.400]  will, if you just step to the side and give me...
[01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:17.400]  You can have that sheriff's opinion of you because now you can no longer be a prosecutor.
[01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:21.400]  So she got off and went and got another prosecuting attorney.
[01:12:21.400 --> 01:12:23.400]  She came down and said, come on here.
[01:12:23.400 --> 01:12:27.400]  I said, well, man, first of all, I said, I'm being charged with driving without insurance.
[01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:29.400]  She says, well, how do you play if I can't play?
[01:12:29.400 --> 01:12:34.400]  I said, I didn't have to have insurance and I didn't have to have proof of insurance.
[01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:37.400]  No, I didn't say that, but I didn't have to have a tag.
[01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:39.400]  She says, did you drive it on the street?
[01:12:39.400 --> 01:12:40.400]  I said, yes, man, I did.
[01:12:40.400 --> 01:12:42.400]  And she says, well, then you had to have a tag.
[01:12:42.400 --> 01:12:46.400]  I said, man, how do you have personal knowledge that I had to have a tag on a vehicle?
[01:12:46.400 --> 01:12:48.400]  I said, what basis do you go by?
[01:12:48.400 --> 01:12:50.400]  She says, well, that's the law.
[01:12:50.400 --> 01:12:52.400]  I said, well, you quote the law that says I had to have a tag.
[01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:54.400]  She goes, well, it's just a law.
[01:12:54.400 --> 01:12:55.400]  So, well, man, now you're a witness.
[01:12:55.400 --> 01:12:56.400]  You step to the side.
[01:12:56.400 --> 01:12:58.400]  It's somebody else because I'm going to cause...
[01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:00.400]  You think I'm beating you up here?
[01:13:00.400 --> 01:13:02.400]  Wait till I put you on the stand.
[01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:07.400]  And everybody's just looking at her design and I'm thinking, oh my God, I'm going...
[01:13:07.400 --> 01:13:10.400]  I prayed so hard before I went into court.
[01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:12.400]  And then they sent the head lady down there.
[01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:14.400]  Oh, she was a...
[01:13:14.400 --> 01:13:15.400]  She come down there.
[01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:16.400]  Oh, what is going on here?
[01:13:16.400 --> 01:13:21.400]  I said, man, before you testify, because I think you're the last person here to try to resolve this.
[01:13:21.400 --> 01:13:24.400]  I said, these two ladies tell me I had to have a tag on my car.
[01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:26.400]  She said, did you drive it on the street?
[01:13:26.400 --> 01:13:27.400]  I said, yes, man, I did.
[01:13:27.400 --> 01:13:30.400]  She says, well, I said, well, before you...
[01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:35.400]  And I got proof right here, stat books I got from Gary and Clomens.
[01:13:35.400 --> 01:13:37.400]  He told me, he stopped me a law.
[01:13:37.400 --> 01:13:42.400]  And as well, I'm telling you, I said, man, please do not testify.
[01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:43.400]  I'm an expert.
[01:13:43.400 --> 01:13:45.400]  God, I will have you as witness.
[01:13:45.400 --> 01:13:47.400]  I said, I can preach you as well.
[01:13:47.400 --> 01:13:48.400]  We...
[01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:49.400]  She wanted a dead dog.
[01:13:49.400 --> 01:13:52.400]  And she said, you should...
[01:13:52.400 --> 01:13:54.400]  You're approved and we'll drop all the charges.
[01:13:54.400 --> 01:13:58.400]  I said, ma'am, OJ Census, Scott Peterson, Robert Whiteberg approved.
[01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:00.400]  It was only on the accuser.
[01:14:00.400 --> 01:14:01.400]  You accuse me of something.
[01:14:01.400 --> 01:14:02.400]  You prove it.
[01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:03.400]  I don't have to prove anything.
[01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:04.400]  You bring the jury trial on.
[01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:05.400]  I also painted the commissioner.
[01:14:05.400 --> 01:14:07.400]  I've been trying to talk to him for seven years now.
[01:14:07.400 --> 01:14:12.400]  I said, I got a whole stack of questions in a notebook, but I'll just tear him up on the stand.
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:13.400]  I've been begging to get him.
[01:14:13.400 --> 01:14:17.400]  At least this way, I can spin him down here and he will have to talk to me.
[01:14:17.400 --> 01:14:18.400]  Oh, well, don't you dread.
[01:14:18.400 --> 01:14:20.400]  I stopped threatening you.
[01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:21.400]  I've been trying to...
[01:14:21.400 --> 01:14:23.400]  Forever, this would be a blessing for me.
[01:14:23.400 --> 01:14:26.400]  So she finally decided to drop it, drop everything.
[01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:29.400]  And I said, I'll tell you what, I'm going to do you a favor.
[01:14:29.400 --> 01:14:30.400]  Here's proof right here.
[01:14:30.400 --> 01:14:40.400]  Georgia OJ 40-6-10 under the insurance law says we got 30 days if I buy the vehicle to put insurance on it.
[01:14:40.400 --> 01:14:45.400]  As long as I have valid insurance on another vehicle under 40-4, it takes a lot.
[01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:48.400]  We said, yeah, 30 days to get the tax.
[01:14:48.400 --> 01:14:49.400]  Therefore, I didn't have to have a tax.
[01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:50.400]  Oh, you didn't tell me that.
[01:14:50.400 --> 01:14:51.400]  I said, I didn't.
[01:14:51.400 --> 01:14:52.400]  You never gave me a chance.
[01:14:52.400 --> 01:14:54.400]  You automatically told me I had to have a tax.
[01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:57.400]  I'm just proving to you that you guys don't know what you're talking about.
[01:14:57.400 --> 01:15:00.400]  And she says, well, well, that's just ridiculous.
[01:15:00.400 --> 01:15:02.400]  So it goes a year later.
[01:15:02.400 --> 01:15:04.400]  My daughter would get her for the same thing.
[01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:05.400]  I'd go to court with her.
[01:15:05.400 --> 01:15:06.400]  Well, who were you?
[01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:08.400]  I said, well, I'm the owner of the vehicle.
[01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:11.400]  I sort of bit nothing, you know, just the exact same thing.
[01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:14.400]  And she goes, well, you don't need to be in this courtroom.
[01:15:14.400 --> 01:15:15.400]  It has nothing to do with you.
[01:15:15.400 --> 01:15:16.400]  You're not on the citation.
[01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:17.400]  I said, well, it's my vehicle.
[01:15:17.400 --> 01:15:18.400]  This is my daughter.
[01:15:18.400 --> 01:15:20.400]  And I said, I'm trying to help my daughter out here.
[01:15:20.400 --> 01:15:23.400]  You're not an attorney, so you don't need to be in here.
[01:15:23.400 --> 01:15:26.400]  I said, okay, Jackie, just come on, let's go.
[01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:28.400]  I said, you tell them you want a jury trial.
[01:15:28.400 --> 01:15:29.400]  I'll fill out all the paperwork.
[01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:32.400]  And we would just spend about $3,000 there in money.
[01:15:32.400 --> 01:15:34.400]  I know how to subpoena people.
[01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:36.400]  We'll have a fun time with this.
[01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:39.400]  I said, Jackie, do what I tell you.
[01:15:39.400 --> 01:15:40.400]  Get out the hallway.
[01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:42.400]  The lady comes running out there.
[01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:43.400]  What is going on with this?
[01:15:43.400 --> 01:15:45.400]  I said, you don't remember me?
[01:15:45.400 --> 01:15:49.400]  She goes, I said, you remember last year when you subpoenaed this?
[01:15:49.400 --> 01:15:51.400]  Oh my God, young lady, if you listen to this man,
[01:15:51.400 --> 01:15:53.400]  you're just going to be in all kinds of trouble.
[01:15:53.400 --> 01:15:54.400]  He is nothing but trouble.
[01:15:54.400 --> 01:15:57.400]  He said, the best thing for you to do is go back in there
[01:15:57.400 --> 01:15:58.400]  and plead bargain with that lady.
[01:15:58.400 --> 01:16:00.400]  I said, my daughter will not do that.
[01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:02.400]  I said, if you want to crank it up, go right on ahead.
[01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:04.400]  I tried to spend $300,000.
[01:16:04.400 --> 01:16:05.400]  Y'all let me do it.
[01:16:05.400 --> 01:16:08.400]  I want my daughter to see what it feels like to spend $300,000.
[01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:10.400]  She just gave me that paperwork.
[01:16:10.400 --> 01:16:12.400]  She went in there and came back out here.
[01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:15.400]  She'll just leave this courtroom.
[01:16:15.400 --> 01:16:21.400]  And my daughter said, Daddy, wow.
[01:16:21.400 --> 01:16:22.400]  Good.
[01:16:22.400 --> 01:16:24.400]  We need more people doing this.
[01:16:24.400 --> 01:16:25.400]  So she won that.
[01:16:25.400 --> 01:16:28.400]  The other lady, I had a problem with this other lady.
[01:16:28.400 --> 01:16:31.400]  And she's just like the man that called in over there.
[01:16:31.400 --> 01:16:32.400]  I can't.
[01:16:32.400 --> 01:16:33.400]  Hold on.
[01:16:33.400 --> 01:16:35.400]  We're coming up on break.
[01:16:35.400 --> 01:16:38.400]  We'll start in a second.
[01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:41.400]  This is why we do the show.
[01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:43.400]  Here are these kind of stories.
[01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:45.400]  The work being here.
[01:16:45.400 --> 01:16:48.400]  And this is Randy Cash from Devastee with Daddy Craig.
[01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:49.400]  We have our radio.
[01:16:49.400 --> 01:16:52.400]  We'll finish up on the other side with John and Georgia.
[01:16:52.400 --> 01:16:54.400]  And we've got Russ in Texas.
[01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:55.400]  Okay.
[01:16:55.400 --> 01:17:02.400]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:19:47.400 --> 01:19:49.400]  we moved on radio.
[01:19:49.400 --> 01:19:52.400]  We're talking to John in Georgia.
[01:19:52.400 --> 01:19:54.400]  Look here, John.
[01:19:54.400 --> 01:19:58.400]  Into where Cherokee is there in Texas.
[01:19:58.400 --> 01:19:59.400]  Cherokee County?
[01:19:59.400 --> 01:20:02.400]  Yeah, he's relatively familiar with where Cherokee County is.
[01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:04.400]  He was incarcerated there once for a month.
[01:20:04.400 --> 01:20:06.400]  I don't want to talk about it.
[01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:08.400]  Yeah, well, I came close.
[01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:12.400]  I was taking my kids to see their grandfather up in Coleman, Texas.
[01:20:12.400 --> 01:20:16.400]  And he said, oh, you take this little road here and it cuts you back up there.
[01:20:16.400 --> 01:20:18.400]  Anyways, I end up, I get lost.
[01:20:18.400 --> 01:20:20.400]  I'm going to this Cherokee, so I'm trying to make up time.
[01:20:20.400 --> 01:20:22.400]  And my wife said, you better slow down.
[01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:24.400]  I didn't have a speedometer on my car.
[01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:26.400]  It was electronic and the electronic wasn't working.
[01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:28.400]  So we're just with him by all the slow people.
[01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:30.400]  I said, I ain't got time for these people.
[01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:32.400]  Next thing I tell Cherokee County State Trooper coming west,
[01:20:32.400 --> 01:20:35.400]  and I'm going east, trying to get back to Georgia.
[01:20:35.400 --> 01:20:37.400]  And I see him fly through the grass.
[01:20:37.400 --> 01:20:39.400]  I thought he was going to flip over.
[01:20:39.400 --> 01:20:40.400]  She said, you better slow down.
[01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:43.400]  I said, no, we're going to drag him down the road a little ways.
[01:20:43.400 --> 01:20:46.400]  If he's going to give me his speedometer, he might as well just give him a little ride.
[01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:47.400]  So we get on down the road.
[01:20:47.400 --> 01:20:48.400]  He pulls it over.
[01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:50.400]  He said, do you know how fast he was going?
[01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:52.400]  I said, no, the speedometer don't work.
[01:20:52.400 --> 01:20:57.400]  He said, well, it's trying to be funny.
[01:20:57.400 --> 01:21:00.400]  He said, you was exceeding 100 miles an hour and 55.
[01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:01.400]  You might have to write your citation.
[01:21:01.400 --> 01:21:02.400]  You don't have to.
[01:21:02.400 --> 01:21:03.400]  I don't run you in.
[01:21:03.400 --> 01:21:05.400]  You got two women here and you got two children in the back.
[01:21:05.400 --> 01:21:07.400]  You shouldn't be driving like that, sir.
[01:21:07.400 --> 01:21:08.400]  I'll be honest with you.
[01:21:08.400 --> 01:21:10.400]  I don't know how fast I was going and we were lost.
[01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:12.400]  I was trying to get back on I-10.
[01:21:12.400 --> 01:21:15.400]  And anyways, I was going to take a Cherokee County.
[01:21:15.400 --> 01:21:17.400]  They just burned me.
[01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:20.400]  I had to take a driving course, a driving course as part of my fine.
[01:21:20.400 --> 01:21:23.400]  And the fine was, oh my God, I can't remember it without Ray.
[01:21:23.400 --> 01:21:25.400]  I was working for the Lincoln dealership at the time.
[01:21:25.400 --> 01:21:26.400]  And so I pay the fine.
[01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:28.400]  I go to this driving class.
[01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:29.400]  And God bless it.
[01:21:29.400 --> 01:21:32.400]  One thing about it taught me to stop at a yellow light.
[01:21:32.400 --> 01:21:34.400]  And it was like, well, why do you stop?
[01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:35.400]  You could have made it.
[01:21:35.400 --> 01:21:36.400]  But I can't continue.
[01:21:36.400 --> 01:21:38.400]  I'll never get another red light.
[01:21:38.400 --> 01:21:40.400]  And I learned a lot from that driving course.
[01:21:40.400 --> 01:21:42.400]  So I mean, it's a good thing.
[01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:44.400]  So you could try to beat that red light.
[01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:46.400]  The other guy is trying to jump it.
[01:21:46.400 --> 01:21:48.400]  You know, when he's watching the light, turn it.
[01:21:48.400 --> 01:21:50.400]  Then you're killed. It's just the best thing.
[01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:52.400]  You're not trying to run them yellow lights.
[01:21:52.400 --> 01:21:54.400]  But anyways, getting back to the situation with Gary,
[01:21:54.400 --> 01:21:56.400]  I went to pull in Georgia with him.
[01:21:56.400 --> 01:21:58.400]  And they got him with the speeding ticket.
[01:21:58.400 --> 01:22:00.400]  And oh man, he just beat that board judge up.
[01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:02.400]  It was one of those Andy Griffith course.
[01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:04.400]  They had a cafeteria table with a little wooden chair.
[01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:08.400]  And he has me holding about 15 law books with people looking.
[01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:10.400]  And I was like, a little video.
[01:22:10.400 --> 01:22:12.400]  I've been a hit town.
[01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:14.400]  And then he says, the judge pulls him up there.
[01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:15.400]  He says, well, how do you play?
[01:22:15.400 --> 01:22:17.400]  He says, what do you mean, how do I play?
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:18.400]  I'll do it.
[01:22:18.400 --> 01:22:19.400]  I'll play.
[01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:20.400]  I don't know.
[01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:25.400]  He said, well, 75 and a 55.
[01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:27.400]  And he said, oh, well, shoot.
[01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:29.400]  Well, go out there and get the radar gun out of the police car.
[01:22:29.400 --> 01:22:30.400]  I want to talk to it.
[01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:32.400]  If it's called to the police officer,
[01:22:32.400 --> 01:22:34.400]  they got, I want to see it talk to me.
[01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:37.400]  And he just, he just made the judge get so mad.
[01:22:37.400 --> 01:22:38.400]  And he says, well, how do you play?
[01:22:38.400 --> 01:22:40.400]  He says, what do you mean how do I play?
[01:22:40.400 --> 01:22:41.400]  I'll do it.
[01:22:41.400 --> 01:22:42.400]  I'll play, I don't know.
[01:22:42.400 --> 01:22:45.400]  He said, I'll play high low, no low, sideways low, but no light.
[01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:46.400]  Yes.
[01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:48.400]  And he says, well, there's only three things you can do.
[01:22:48.400 --> 01:22:50.400]  Play no low, guilty or not guilty.
[01:22:50.400 --> 01:22:54.400]  He says, oh, so you're telling me that you're giving me legal advice now?
[01:22:54.400 --> 01:22:58.400]  He said, you're telling me I can't stand mute and you enter before me?
[01:22:58.400 --> 01:23:00.400]  Oh, he had them so tore up.
[01:23:00.400 --> 01:23:03.400]  So the judge finally says, well, I'm not going to get into this.
[01:23:03.400 --> 01:23:06.400]  He's a pro-tim judge.
[01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:09.400]  He's an attorney from some county that comes in and acts as a judge.
[01:23:09.400 --> 01:23:11.400]  So he bounced him over to a state court.
[01:23:11.400 --> 01:23:13.400]  Never gets a court date.
[01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:16.400]  Now here it is three or four years later, they suspended his license.
[01:23:16.400 --> 01:23:18.400]  So he gets caught driving.
[01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:20.400]  They take him to the pokey down there.
[01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:21.400]  He has to get bonded out.
[01:23:21.400 --> 01:23:23.400]  He's got to go to recorders court.
[01:23:23.400 --> 01:23:24.400]  Then he calls me up.
[01:23:24.400 --> 01:23:27.400]  Oh, John, I mean, you know, I know you get into this traffic thing.
[01:23:27.400 --> 01:23:30.400]  He's got in his mortgage foreclosure thing.
[01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:32.400]  So I said, well, you know, I don't know what this is.
[01:23:32.400 --> 01:23:36.400]  Well, first of all, Gary, I said, do you remember when you went in there with the grass cops?
[01:23:36.400 --> 01:23:39.400]  They threw you out of that court and said you can't come back because he was trying to,
[01:23:39.400 --> 01:23:43.400]  they charged the guy for not letting him go behind his privacy fence.
[01:23:43.400 --> 01:23:47.400]  I called you in about this before and they said, if you won't let us back,
[01:23:47.400 --> 01:23:49.400]  I'll site you for a structure of justice.
[01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:51.400]  And so he calls me up.
[01:23:51.400 --> 01:23:52.400]  I was working at Lincoln Dillship.
[01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:53.400]  I said, look here.
[01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:56.400]  I said, unless he's got a warrant, I would let him go in there.
[01:23:56.400 --> 01:23:57.400]  I said, I'll tell him to go.
[01:23:57.400 --> 01:23:58.400]  This is so crooked.
[01:23:58.400 --> 01:24:00.400]  They get a warrant like it's messed.
[01:24:00.400 --> 01:24:02.400]  So the guy got so mad at him.
[01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:04.400]  He writes him a ticket for obstruction of justice.
[01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:08.400]  We get to this environmental court, which is just like a lower, lower court.
[01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:14.400]  And he tries to file with Gary under Georgia law.
[01:24:14.400 --> 01:24:16.400]  There are no jury trials in the magistrate court.
[01:24:16.400 --> 01:24:18.400]  You have to put it in writing to get it moved to state court.
[01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:20.400]  They wouldn't let him do it.
[01:24:20.400 --> 01:24:21.400]  So they had his case heard.
[01:24:21.400 --> 01:24:26.400]  They have jurisdiction here, his case, and I went to court with them and I told the judge.
[01:24:26.400 --> 01:24:31.400]  And they threw Gary out and told him not even, is he not allowed in that court?
[01:24:31.400 --> 01:24:34.400]  He's not allowed in that building and he's not allowed on that property.
[01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:36.400]  But now he's being subpoenaed to go to court.
[01:24:36.400 --> 01:24:41.400]  And I told him, let's say Gary, just go ahead and file a case of superior court against the judge,
[01:24:41.400 --> 01:24:44.400]  the head judge, the judge that was in charge there.
[01:24:44.400 --> 01:24:48.400]  Both these chairs, they tried to escort you out of the building.
[01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:50.400]  Filed against them.
[01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:52.400]  Filed playing against them.
[01:24:52.400 --> 01:25:01.400]  And then in writing, returned signature requested, certified not, won't accept a written request.
[01:25:01.400 --> 01:25:09.400]  So I said, if you do it like that, they have to get the receipt when you got it.
[01:25:09.400 --> 01:25:12.400]  I'm not even sure you got your court date set when you get it in that court.
[01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:14.400]  She got a fair, she got it.
[01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:18.400]  And so, you know, we would say, he's the one who taught me everything.
[01:25:18.400 --> 01:25:21.400]  He's just getting a little slow now.
[01:25:21.400 --> 01:25:23.400]  You know, he's kind of getting there in age.
[01:25:23.400 --> 01:25:26.400]  So I told him, I said, that's your biggest stick right there.
[01:25:26.400 --> 01:25:27.400]  He's not allowed.
[01:25:27.400 --> 01:25:33.400]  I told you, if you come arrest you, so he's already paid your bond.
[01:25:33.400 --> 01:25:36.400]  So it ain't nothing to get transferred to state court and they like to have to go back to jail
[01:25:36.400 --> 01:25:38.400]  and then you don't have to get all bonded back out.
[01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:43.400]  So it just, it had him so messed up, you know, because there's three different things involved in it.
[01:25:43.400 --> 01:25:45.400]  The hospital.
[01:25:45.400 --> 01:25:50.400]  And the bathroom because he never filed those complaints.
[01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:53.400]  I told him he should have filed complaints.
[01:25:53.400 --> 01:25:55.400]  Oh, that's a million dollar lawsuit.
[01:25:55.400 --> 01:25:58.400]  They said, well, didn't do it. Don't say it. Just go do it.
[01:25:58.400 --> 01:26:02.400]  You know, he always pushes big about doing the night. Go do it.
[01:26:02.400 --> 01:26:07.400]  And I feel bad for him. I don't know what else to do for him.
[01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:14.400]  Yeah, I was talking to Gary before they this trouble with Cherokee County.
[01:26:14.400 --> 01:26:21.400]  He's having a helping some people in California with a milk issue.
[01:26:21.400 --> 01:26:27.400]  He's having raw milk in California came after him. Okay. Do you have anything else for us?
[01:26:27.400 --> 01:26:32.400]  No, that's pretty much it. You know, just, you know, what I've learned from your show and been listening to y'all for a while.
[01:26:32.400 --> 01:26:36.400]  I pretty much got run out of Columbus. That's another long story from my own.
[01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:40.400]  I just got tired of fighting those people. I said, I'll come over here and I'll fight her from over here.
[01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:44.400]  It's a lot easier. The thing I want to say, I did that Eddie Craig thing.
[01:26:44.400 --> 01:26:46.400]  I did that Eddie.
[01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:51.400]  Hey, by the way, suspended my license, you know, threatened to shoot me and everything. He's got a lot of trouble.
[01:26:51.400 --> 01:26:58.400]  Well, license and I'm driving to pick up a guy from work and I'm close to his house and this police officer just comes whipping up behind me.
[01:26:58.400 --> 01:27:04.400]  Evidently, I was beating this big head of him in front of it and I've never been there before.
[01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:08.400]  And the guy said, oh yeah, everybody gets hit by that guy. So I knew my license was suspended.
[01:27:08.400 --> 01:27:12.400]  So I went over to his house as fast as I could. I mean, you know, as safe as I could.
[01:27:12.400 --> 01:27:16.400]  The guy jumped. He did a little fire and a little beeper thing.
[01:27:16.400 --> 01:27:21.400]  And I said, oh my God, well, what I did was, you know, Eddie Craig, you know, you got to write the travel song.
[01:27:21.400 --> 01:27:26.400]  I went and got a D made at Georgia ID and the police officer comes up there, sir.
[01:27:26.400 --> 01:27:29.400]  You know, he was speeding through the school zone. I said, no sir, I have children.
[01:27:29.400 --> 01:27:31.400]  I guarantee I wouldn't speed through the school zone.
[01:27:31.400 --> 01:27:35.400]  He says, well, I'm telling you, you have. Who's the driver's registration insurance?
[01:27:35.400 --> 01:27:38.400]  I said, well, I got this Georgia ID right here.
[01:27:38.400 --> 01:27:42.400]  He says, would you have a driver's license? I said, well, now I'm not in commerce.
[01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:45.400]  I'm not driving. I'm traveling.
[01:27:45.400 --> 01:27:47.400]  And I swear to God, you won't believe this.
[01:27:47.400 --> 01:27:50.400]  He says, oh, you're one of those guys.
[01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:53.400]  He grabs my ID card, goes back to his car.
[01:27:53.400 --> 01:27:56.400]  That 10 minutes comes out of the department.
[01:27:56.400 --> 01:27:59.400]  The man was like, hold on. I'll tell you what this is over with.
[01:27:59.400 --> 01:28:04.400]  But if anything bad happens, pull my card and you start to kill my boss too.
[01:28:04.400 --> 01:28:08.400]  The guy comes back. He goes, well, be more careful to them schools.
[01:28:08.400 --> 01:28:11.400]  He's just driving.
[01:28:11.400 --> 01:28:13.400]  And I said, well, I never tried.
[01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:15.400]  That's perfect.
[01:28:15.400 --> 01:28:17.400]  They were worried about the whole time I was shaking in my shoes.
[01:28:17.400 --> 01:28:21.400]  And the guy that was sitting next to me goes, what was that guy talking about?
[01:28:21.400 --> 01:28:23.400]  I said, well, you see, I gave my ID card my license.
[01:28:23.400 --> 01:28:25.400]  I was just saying this. I went and got a Georgia ID.
[01:28:25.400 --> 01:28:28.400]  And I told him I was traveling. I wasn't driving.
[01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:31.400]  I'm pulled or chickens or nothing like that.
[01:28:31.400 --> 01:28:34.400]  Nothing like that. I don't have a taxi.
[01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:37.400]  And he says, man, what's that all about?
[01:28:37.400 --> 01:28:41.400]  I had to tell you about it later because a lot of people don't know about it.
[01:28:41.400 --> 01:28:48.400]  Apparently, a lot more people are finding out about it.
[01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:52.400]  Because I ran into one in Austin who certainly knew about it.
[01:28:52.400 --> 01:28:57.400]  So this is a good thing. The internet's helping getting this word out.
[01:28:57.400 --> 01:29:01.400]  And I talked to a police officer about it and he said, well, you know, that kind of makes sense.
[01:29:01.400 --> 01:29:04.400]  I said, well, yeah, I didn't get into it because it takes too long.
[01:29:04.400 --> 01:29:07.400]  But y'all keep up the good work. You know, you're saving a lot of people.
[01:29:07.400 --> 01:29:09.400]  I'm going to go up there and talk to Gary.
[01:29:09.400 --> 01:29:13.400]  See if I can't try to help him out because he's really down and out about it.
[01:29:13.400 --> 01:29:21.400]  Yeah. Tell Gary that I said that what Gary needs more than anything is an enema.
[01:29:21.400 --> 01:29:23.400]  What was that?
[01:29:23.400 --> 01:29:26.400]  What he needs more than anything is an enema?
[01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:28.400]  Yeah.
[01:29:28.400 --> 01:29:30.400]  He's been full of crap since I've known him.
[01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:32.400]  Yeah.
[01:29:32.400 --> 01:29:35.400]  Okay. Thank you for calling.
[01:29:35.400 --> 01:29:43.400]  Okay, we're going to go to rush from Texas when we come back from the bed.
[01:29:43.400 --> 01:29:50.400]  Great. This is our good friend, the long lost baby face Marlon.
[01:29:50.400 --> 01:30:01.400]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:30:01.400 --> 01:30:08.400]  A noble lie, Oklahoma City, 1995 will change forever the way you look at the true nature of terrorism.
[01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:12.400]  Based on the damage pattern to the building, but the government says it's impossible.
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[01:30:15.400 --> 01:30:19.400]  The decision was made not to pursue any more of those individuals.
[01:30:19.400 --> 01:30:24.400]  Some of these columns were ripped up, shredded, tossed around.
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[01:30:34.400 --> 01:30:39.400]  Salt Lake City is known for its devout warm-in community that prepares for the end times.
[01:30:39.400 --> 01:30:44.400]  So why is it the test bed for a payment technology that some are linking to the mark of the beast?
[01:30:44.400 --> 01:30:47.400]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albright and I'll tell you more in just a moment.
[01:30:47.400 --> 01:30:49.400]  Privacy is under attack.
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[01:31:21.400 --> 01:31:26.400]  So they teamed up with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile on a new payment system called ISIS.
[01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:32.400]  ISIS, named after the Egyptian goddess of magic, lets consumers make payments with their cell phones.
[01:31:32.400 --> 01:31:35.400]  Just wave your phone and the purchase is complete.
[01:31:35.400 --> 01:31:39.400]  The city's transit systems are already on board and local merchants are expected to follow.
[01:31:39.400 --> 01:31:45.400]  Developers hope ISIS will usher in a cashless society, which worries Christians and freedom advocates alike.
[01:31:45.400 --> 01:31:49.400]  Once we get a number to buy and sell, all of our purchases will be tracked.
[01:31:49.400 --> 01:31:54.400]  Worse yet, technology could exclude us from buying necessities like food.
[01:31:54.400 --> 01:32:10.400]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:24.400 --> 01:32:27.400]  How have you been? It's been a long time.
[01:32:27.400 --> 01:32:29.400]  What are you up to?
[01:32:29.400 --> 01:32:32.400]  Well, trying to stay out of jail.
[01:32:32.400 --> 01:32:36.400]  That's what I was trying to find out about your case, because I've been trying to call you.
[01:32:36.400 --> 01:32:40.400]  We've been missing each other for months.
[01:32:40.400 --> 01:32:48.400]  Well, try the 512-430-4140 number.
[01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:49.400]  Okay.
[01:32:49.400 --> 01:32:53.400]  That should always get me.
[01:32:53.400 --> 01:33:00.400]  Yeah, the judge's preliminary power has expired.
[01:33:00.400 --> 01:33:07.400]  Now I filed a notice of appeal, mandamus, with the 12th Court of Appeals.
[01:33:07.400 --> 01:33:15.400]  Including in the mandamus will be a statement of facts and about 50 criminal charges.
[01:33:15.400 --> 01:33:19.400]  Verified criminal affidavits.
[01:33:19.400 --> 01:33:29.400]  And what I fully expect the 12th Court of Appeals to do is deny my mandamus, no matter what's in it.
[01:33:29.400 --> 01:33:33.400]  Same crap they did last time.
[01:33:33.400 --> 01:33:44.400]  But I also expect them to forget that in Article 2.09 Code of Criminal Procedure that says, who are magistrates?
[01:33:44.400 --> 01:33:55.400]  That the third one on the list after the Supreme Court, Court of Criminal Appeals, is the Court of Appeals.
[01:33:55.400 --> 01:33:57.400]  They are magistrates.
[01:33:57.400 --> 01:34:08.400]  And when they don't act on these criminal, verified criminal affidavits, I'm going to go to the grand jury after them.
[01:34:08.400 --> 01:34:13.400]  Then, this all goes to politics.
[01:34:13.400 --> 01:34:17.400]  We create ourselves a little politics.
[01:34:17.400 --> 01:34:24.400]  Then I'm going to file with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
[01:34:24.400 --> 01:34:37.400]  Under Rule 18A, under disqualification, if you disqualify the head administrative judge of the district,
[01:34:37.400 --> 01:34:42.400]  then you must notify Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
[01:34:42.400 --> 01:34:56.400]  So I'll send him my motion to disqualify and the statement on how the judge denied a motion to disqualify in violation of law.
[01:34:56.400 --> 01:35:01.400]  Then I disqualified the head administrative judge.
[01:35:01.400 --> 01:35:07.400]  And I'll give him a copy of all these criminal complaints.
[01:35:07.400 --> 01:35:17.400]  And I have no doubt that he's going to forget that Article 2.09, who are magistrates,
[01:35:17.400 --> 01:35:25.400]  he is not only the first being the Chief Justice, he's the first of the first.
[01:35:25.400 --> 01:35:32.400]  And when he doesn't act on these criminal complaints, I'll take him to a grand jury.
[01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:38.400]  And then we'll give him one to the State Commission on Judicial Conduct.
[01:35:38.400 --> 01:35:45.400]  And that commission will do absolutely nothing no matter what I file.
[01:35:45.400 --> 01:35:51.400]  However, there are two judges on that panel.
[01:35:51.400 --> 01:35:55.400]  And I'll take them to the grand jury.
[01:35:55.400 --> 01:36:02.400]  So I think by the time I'm done, I will have created a little politics.
[01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:09.400]  And I suspect those two chumps in Cherokee County are going to wind up cannon fodder.
[01:36:09.400 --> 01:36:14.400]  So that's what I've been up to. What have you been up to, Russell?
[01:36:14.400 --> 01:36:25.400]  Well, just keep track of our favorite currency. And my cases finally got all the way through the Texas courts.
[01:36:25.400 --> 01:36:30.400]  Now the next stop is Federal Court. But I haven't done anything with it yet.
[01:36:30.400 --> 01:36:34.400]  Settle court. Are you talking about the claims that you've made?
[01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:36.400]  No, the Hapiest Corpus.
[01:36:36.400 --> 01:36:38.400]  Oh, okay.
[01:36:38.400 --> 01:36:44.400]  Sparks said I had to go back through state court on my issue. Remember?
[01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:45.400]  Yes.
[01:36:45.400 --> 01:36:54.400]  I finally got on January 11th. The petition for discretionary review was refused for me and my wife both.
[01:36:54.400 --> 01:36:57.400]  And now the next stop is Federal Court.
[01:36:57.400 --> 01:37:03.400]  But I also found the Hapiest Corpus attorney here in Austin that I've been thinking about going to.
[01:37:03.400 --> 01:37:05.400]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:37:05.400 --> 01:37:15.400]  If I bring this issue up as a pro say, even though I possibly could win it, if the lawyer does it, it could be standing on.
[01:37:15.400 --> 01:37:26.400]  Because, in fact, if it is, we can finally bring out the issues how all the state is not doing this process correctly.
[01:37:26.400 --> 01:37:31.400]  And the Supreme Court has verified that three different times.
[01:37:31.400 --> 01:37:40.400]  Because you cannot turn around and have go before a judge in the jail down there.
[01:37:40.400 --> 01:37:48.400]  And then the state claimed, well, that's not a viable process in order to have counsel and all that stuff.
[01:37:48.400 --> 01:37:53.400]  But yet they turn around and they put motions before that judge for bail conditions and stuff.
[01:37:53.400 --> 01:37:58.400]  And you have no representation. You have no way to do anything.
[01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:04.400]  And the Supreme Court has said clear back to 1978 that Texas has been doing this wrong.
[01:38:04.400 --> 01:38:10.400]  But nobody wants to seem to address the issue or correct it.
[01:38:10.400 --> 01:38:14.400]  The only thing that's going to get it done properly is a federal suit.
[01:38:14.400 --> 01:38:19.400]  It's a suit in the federal court against the state.
[01:38:19.400 --> 01:38:23.400]  Well, Sparks said I had the state remedies, so now they're exhausted.
[01:38:23.400 --> 01:38:25.400]  So I could take it tonight.
[01:38:25.400 --> 01:38:29.400]  And they will have to settle the issue.
[01:38:29.400 --> 01:38:33.400]  That'll be interesting to see what...
[01:38:33.400 --> 01:38:40.400]  Absolutely, if you can get an attorney to represent this, you'd be much better off because you avoid the pro-state bias.
[01:38:40.400 --> 01:38:42.400]  That's right, and they can always...
[01:38:42.400 --> 01:38:46.400]  Well, this is non-published, you know, that crap.
[01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:54.400]  Yeah, well, we have a case out of California on this non-published issue.
[01:38:54.400 --> 01:39:01.400]  A lawyer there cited a couple of non-published cases.
[01:39:01.400 --> 01:39:08.400]  The courts tried to sanction him for filing for using the non-published cases.
[01:39:08.400 --> 01:39:15.400]  And he argued that these cases were readily available on the Internet.
[01:39:15.400 --> 01:39:24.400]  So they had been published to publicly publish so that the public would have direct access to them.
[01:39:24.400 --> 01:39:28.400]  And the courts ruled in his favor.
[01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:39.400]  And the federal courts told him that while you got your decision, never let your signature tarnish.
[01:39:39.400 --> 01:39:42.400]  They would let them know they weren't happy about it.
[01:39:42.400 --> 01:39:47.400]  So I don't remember what the case is offhand. I'll have to re-look it up.
[01:39:47.400 --> 01:39:51.400]  But we still may be able to claim the un-published cases.
[01:39:51.400 --> 01:40:05.400]  And if that happens, if we can force that, then the judges can't render these bogus rulings or they become citable law.
[01:40:05.400 --> 01:40:14.400]  And now, if they want to screw somebody, they just give a bogus ruling and then call it an un-published case.
[01:40:14.400 --> 01:40:21.400]  And that's why those judges were so unhappy because he kind of put a cog in those works.
[01:40:21.400 --> 01:40:26.400]  So it probably cost them a rather large source of income.
[01:40:26.400 --> 01:40:36.400]  Yeah, because not just the Internet, you can go on LexisNexis or Westlaw or anything and all those things are on there.
[01:40:36.400 --> 01:40:38.400]  But they're still published.
[01:40:38.400 --> 01:40:43.400]  Yes, they're published. If they're in the public domain, then they're published.
[01:40:43.400 --> 01:40:52.400]  So all you have to do is take one, post it up on an Internet site, send them a link. There it is. It's published.
[01:40:52.400 --> 01:41:03.400]  Just because the government printing office or the government's contractor didn't publish it, it's still publicly available.
[01:41:03.400 --> 01:41:14.400]  Okay, we explained for those. It's been a while since you've been on your issue about here, about the Gillespie case and such.
[01:41:14.400 --> 01:41:29.400]  Gillespie County, Roth-Gary versus Gillespie County, which is a couple counties over, ruled that the guy was taken before a judge and he was not given counsel.
[01:41:29.400 --> 01:41:41.400]  And it was challenged all the way to the United States Supreme Court, the Supreme Court turned around and ruled in his favor.
[01:41:41.400 --> 01:41:54.400]  And the state, Texas, and I think it was eight states altogether, was chastised because they're not following the proper procedures for arresting people.
[01:41:54.400 --> 01:42:07.400]  So like in my case, I was arrested, taken before a judge in the Hayes County Jail, and that judge had a hearing, which they claimed it wasn't a hearing, but it was a hearing.
[01:42:07.400 --> 01:42:20.400]  Emotions to set bond conditions were given to the judge. You're only in a little jail cell with the judge at you. There's no prosecutor, there's no defense attorney, there's no nothing.
[01:42:20.400 --> 01:42:36.400]  But yet, when you take those issues before the appellate court, I can't remember the terminology they used, but they considered that non-incidental because you have your arraignment later on and that's when you get counsel.
[01:42:36.400 --> 01:42:45.400]  Well, yeah, the other problem there, though, is where is the judge getting jurisdiction to do anything in the jail cell when no one's even signed a complaint yet?
[01:42:45.400 --> 01:42:47.400]  Right.
[01:42:47.400 --> 01:43:06.400]  And clear back in Gillespie versus, or Rockery versus Gillespie County, the Supreme Court cites in there that there's been three other total of three cases where this has been pointed out to be wrong, dating clear back to 1978.
[01:43:06.400 --> 01:43:16.400]  And the Gillespie County case was in 2008. And it's a no-no, and they just, they instead of correcting the system, they just keep doing it.
[01:43:16.400 --> 01:43:26.400]  You have to have counsel at every time you go before a judge, period. But you have to refuse counsel, one or the other.
[01:43:26.400 --> 01:43:37.400]  And there's just the step that they do that you don't get counsel and stuff, that's incidental, you know, you go to your room.
[01:43:37.400 --> 01:43:46.400]  Okay. Hang on Russell, we'll pick you back up on the other side. Okay. This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig.
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[01:47:13.400 --> 01:47:28.400]  We're talking to Russell in Texas, and what Russell is taking on is the very issue that I like to talk about so much is this requirement to be brought before magistrate.
[01:47:28.400 --> 01:47:45.400]  I remember a couple of years ago, I was researching how the Court of Criminal Appeals handled rips of habeas corpus by prosa litigants.
[01:47:45.400 --> 01:47:53.400]  So I went down and asked to see all of the habeas corpuses filed by prosa litigants in the Court of Criminal Appeals.
[01:47:53.400 --> 01:48:04.400]  And I was going through them, and one was especially interesting because it was written on a roll of toilet paper.
[01:48:04.400 --> 01:48:13.400]  That was an incredible piece of work. The guy wrote the whole thing on the toilet paper and didn't even tear the toilet paper.
[01:48:13.400 --> 01:48:24.400]  And then there was another one I read, and it was a nice piece of work. And when I finished it, I went back and said, who wrote this?
[01:48:24.400 --> 01:48:33.400]  And it was Russell Mortland. So that was sort of my introduction to Russell Mortland. He does do nice documentation.
[01:48:33.400 --> 01:48:43.400]  And he's been taking on this very issue. And Russell, you're the one that found the Rockbury v. Gillespie, weren't you?
[01:48:43.400 --> 01:48:50.400]  Oh, wait a minute. Let's see.
[01:48:50.400 --> 01:48:56.400]  Sorry, Russell. Wait, start over or somebody muted you. I don't know how that happened.
[01:48:56.400 --> 01:49:19.400]  Oh, OK. Let me read the holding from the Rockbury. A criminal defendant's initial appearance before a magistrate judge, where he learns to charge against him and his liberty is subject to restriction, marks the initiation of adversarial judicial proceedings that trigger attachment of the Sixth Amendment right to counseling.
[01:49:19.400 --> 01:49:31.400]  Attachment does not also require that the prosecutor, as distinct from a police officer, be aware of the initial proceedings or involved in its conduct.
[01:49:31.400 --> 01:49:51.400]  So, and then it goes on to talk about how this court has twice held that the right to counsel attaches at the initial appearance before judicial officer at which the defendant is told of the formal accusation against him and restrictions are imposed on his liberty.
[01:49:51.400 --> 01:50:09.400]  And then after the case is over with in the commentary at the end, it points out that seven states in the United States still do not conform to these principles.
[01:50:09.400 --> 01:50:19.400]  And those seven states are Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, and Virginia.
[01:50:19.400 --> 01:50:38.400]  And that, to me, was a mouthful because they're sitting there telling, this is the third case since 1990, is basically telling Texas and specifically that you're not doing this correctly.
[01:50:38.400 --> 01:50:42.400]  But yet nobody in this state seems to want to correct it.
[01:50:42.400 --> 01:50:56.400]  This sounds like the perfect thing for a lawsuit against the state of Texas, because this is a statewide issue, or maybe even better, the governor.
[01:50:56.400 --> 01:51:08.400]  Well, the stuff that I've studied in this shows that there are several things when it comes to the jurisdictional issues that none of these judges at any level are considering.
[01:51:08.400 --> 01:51:14.400]  The first thing is, how do they get jurisdiction to do anything in the first place?
[01:51:14.400 --> 01:51:24.400]  That initial first appearance, that is the drop dead date for the state to have the complaint prepared.
[01:51:24.400 --> 01:51:36.400]  Because you are entitled to have a copy of that complaint no later than one day prior to any proceeding in the prosecution under that complaint.
[01:51:36.400 --> 01:51:39.400]  So the drop dead date is that first initial appearance.
[01:51:39.400 --> 01:51:42.400]  After that due process has been violated.
[01:51:42.400 --> 01:51:43.400]  Why?
[01:51:43.400 --> 01:51:55.400]  Because you have not been served and noticed so that you can make your rightful objections to forming content of the complaint and any charging instrument based on that complaint.
[01:51:55.400 --> 01:51:58.400]  There's a problem there.
[01:51:58.400 --> 01:52:08.400]  You're brought before a judge, or in this case, it should be a magistrate.
[01:52:08.400 --> 01:52:17.400]  How does the magistrate get subject manager jurisdiction to hold the examining trial?
[01:52:17.400 --> 01:52:19.400]  Well, that's what I'm getting at.
[01:52:19.400 --> 01:52:27.400]  From what I can tell, the complaint grants the court jurisdiction for only two purposes.
[01:52:27.400 --> 01:52:34.400]  The 1517 proceeding and the examining trial itself to determine probable cause.
[01:52:34.400 --> 01:52:45.400]  Once the court has then determined probable cause, then and only then is there a requirement to produce the information, hold an arraignment and proceed to trial.
[01:52:45.400 --> 01:52:49.400]  Because without probable cause, none of that's necessary.
[01:52:49.400 --> 01:52:53.400]  So the complaint alone, go ahead.
[01:52:53.400 --> 01:53:02.400]  Without probable cause, without a finding of probable cause, the trial court cannot have subject manager jurisdiction.
[01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:03.400]  Correct.
[01:53:03.400 --> 01:53:08.400]  The magistrate gets subject manager jurisdiction by virtue of the complaint.
[01:53:08.400 --> 01:53:09.400]  Right.
[01:53:09.400 --> 01:53:13.400]  Which doesn't exist most of the time when they do this.
[01:53:13.400 --> 01:53:28.400]  Once the magistrate finds probable cause, then under 1730, he's to seal all those documents in an envelope, cause his name to be written across the seal of the envelope, forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[01:53:28.400 --> 01:53:35.400]  Forwarding that document transfers jurisdiction from the magistrate to the court of record.
[01:53:35.400 --> 01:53:38.400]  They don't do that either.
[01:53:38.400 --> 01:53:43.400]  They're not doing any of the procedures that they're required to do that protect our rights.
[01:53:43.400 --> 01:53:45.400]  That's exactly why they're not doing them.
[01:53:45.400 --> 01:53:52.400]  If they had to do everything that protected our rights, they would never get past the finding of probable cause.
[01:53:52.400 --> 01:53:58.400]  They turn around a lot of times and say, well, he didn't have a hearing, he had a registration.
[01:53:58.400 --> 01:54:01.400]  Well, there is no such thing under Texas law.
[01:54:01.400 --> 01:54:07.400]  Well, technically speaking, the 1517 proceeding has no official title or designation.
[01:54:07.400 --> 01:54:08.400]  Right.
[01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:11.400]  So what they call it basically is irrelevant.
[01:54:11.400 --> 01:54:17.400]  Magistration, 1517 proceeding, whatever they call it, there is a process in place.
[01:54:17.400 --> 01:54:18.400]  They're just not using it.
[01:54:18.400 --> 01:54:20.400]  They're not doing it at all.
[01:54:20.400 --> 01:54:23.400]  They're ignoring it as if it doesn't exist.
[01:54:23.400 --> 01:54:28.400]  But to me, what they're doing in the jail cell does not comply with it either.
[01:54:28.400 --> 01:54:40.400]  To me, one of the biggest outranges of the whole thing was, even if you could say, well, this wasn't required, how everyone knows when you have motions
[01:54:40.400 --> 01:54:46.400]  and when you present something to the judge to be ruled on, you have to have a court.
[01:54:46.400 --> 01:54:48.400]  You have to have a prosecutor.
[01:54:48.400 --> 01:54:52.400]  You have to have a defense attorney or a procé there.
[01:54:52.400 --> 01:54:57.400]  Yeah, or it's an ex parte procedure that you can't do in a criminal case.
[01:54:57.400 --> 01:55:09.400]  At the examining trial, a prosecutor is not necessary and your lawyer is not a requirement unless you request one.
[01:55:09.400 --> 01:55:26.400]  But when you were brought before that judge in the jail, Russell, did the judge have documents in his hand that had information accusing you of crime?
[01:55:26.400 --> 01:55:31.400]  Uh, they had documents.
[01:55:31.400 --> 01:55:36.400]  No, no, that's not what I'm asking.
[01:55:36.400 --> 01:55:47.400]  The judge had something given to him that told him that you were arrested for some criminal act.
[01:55:47.400 --> 01:55:52.400]  Where did he get those documents?
[01:55:52.400 --> 01:55:55.400]  Who gave those to him?
[01:55:55.400 --> 01:55:57.400]  How were you going?
[01:55:57.400 --> 01:56:09.400]  Under what legal procedure was evidence presented to a judge and you weren't there?
[01:56:09.400 --> 01:56:14.400]  Because as I read the Code of Criminal Procedure, the rules of evidence apply.
[01:56:14.400 --> 01:56:24.400]  Now, the only way you can produce evidence into a court is to first establish foundation for the evidence.
[01:56:24.400 --> 01:56:36.400]  Give the opposition the opposing party opportunity to examine the evidence and raise an objection to it if they choose.
[01:56:36.400 --> 01:56:39.400]  And only then can it be presented to the court.
[01:56:39.400 --> 01:56:45.400]  So how did this judge get this information?
[01:56:45.400 --> 01:56:50.400]  They must have held an examining trial somewhere.
[01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:56.400]  They knew when they held it because only at a hearing can evidence be presented to the judge.
[01:56:56.400 --> 01:57:07.400]  Otherwise, they're having ex parte communications and we know the judge wouldn't do something as illegal as that.
[01:57:07.400 --> 01:57:10.400]  No.
[01:57:10.400 --> 01:57:18.400]  They've got a real problem here and if you know the Code, there's no way they can dance around it.
[01:57:18.400 --> 01:57:21.400]  I believe this song and dance cells are down your pants.
[01:57:21.400 --> 01:57:29.400]  But we've got 200 years of jurisprudence that they have to deal with and they absolutely cannot get around it.
[01:57:29.400 --> 01:57:37.400]  If we take them to the federal court, I don't think we've got a way to do it.
[01:57:37.400 --> 01:57:40.400]  I don't think we've got a way to do it with an attorney so I can make it a precedent case.
[01:57:40.400 --> 01:57:42.400]  Absolutely.
[01:57:42.400 --> 01:57:45.400]  You could do it anyway, but we'll get around the pros and cons.
[01:57:45.400 --> 01:57:48.400]  The judge likes to get his name in the headlines and stuff.
[01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:50.400]  He likes to slap people down, so who knows?
[01:57:50.400 --> 01:57:55.400]  Maybe you'll decide to slap Texas down and say, look, start correcting this.
[01:57:55.400 --> 01:57:58.400]  Good. Maybe that might be the right one.
[01:57:58.400 --> 01:58:00.400]  We probably need Debra to do that.
[01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:06.400]  And the way it's being done, there's not anybody in there being lawfully convicted of anything.
[01:58:06.400 --> 01:58:09.400]  I agree. That's part of the problem.
[01:58:09.400 --> 01:58:12.400]  If they rule in our favor, they have to let everybody out of jail.
[01:58:12.400 --> 01:58:14.400]  They're not going to like that idea.
[01:58:14.400 --> 01:58:15.400]  Yeah.
[01:58:15.400 --> 01:58:17.400]  Okay. Thank you, Russell.
[01:58:17.400 --> 01:58:19.400]  We are out of time.
[01:58:19.400 --> 01:58:21.400]  And call in more often.
[01:58:21.400 --> 01:58:22.400]  Okay, bye.
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