ROL_2012-02-17_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:10.940]  A blowout Wednesday at an exploratory well near the Alaska coast of the Buford Sea spewed
[00:10.940 --> 00:17.200]  an estimated 42,000 gallons of drilling mud. Environmental groups said Thursday the incident
[00:17.200 --> 00:22.440]  underscores the threat to the pristine Arctic Ocean environment if offshore drilling is
[00:22.440 --> 00:29.560]  allowed by the Obama administration. The well owned by Repsol, E&P USA, also expelled natural
[00:29.560 --> 00:32.320]  gas.
[00:32.320 --> 00:37.880]  Newly released documents from Britain's National Archives show Britain's spy agency MI5 opened
[00:37.880 --> 00:44.600]  a file on actor Charlie Chaplin in the 1950s at the behest of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI. Hoover
[00:44.600 --> 00:49.600]  wanted Chaplin banned from the US for alleged ties to the Communist Party. Chaplin went
[00:49.600 --> 00:56.880]  to London in 1952 but was refused re-entry to the US. He returned to the US once in 1972
[00:56.880 --> 01:00.400]  to collect an honorary Oscar.
[01:00.400 --> 01:06.160]  Foster Freeze, the 71-year-old multi-millionaire who's given the most to a super-packed supporting
[01:06.160 --> 01:11.680]  Rick Santorum, for presidents at Thursday, universal contraception coverage for women
[01:11.680 --> 01:17.920]  shouldn't be needed because, quote, back in my day they use bare aspirin for contraceptives,
[01:17.920 --> 01:22.960]  adding the gals put it between their knees. Santorum has called for an end to hormonal
[01:22.960 --> 01:27.160]  birth control, including the pill.
[01:27.160 --> 01:31.160]  West Bank Palestinian villages that have been without electricity for decades are about
[01:31.160 --> 01:36.600]  to have new solar panels and wind turbines torn down by Israeli authorities. They'd only
[01:36.600 --> 01:42.440]  recently been installed by a European-funded Israeli Foundation. This sustainability program,
[01:42.440 --> 01:47.320]  which has installed solar panels and wind turbines in 16 communities, is providing
[01:47.320 --> 01:53.200]  1,500 Palestinians, formerly without reliable energy, with electricity. Palestinians in
[01:53.200 --> 01:58.160]  the rural West Bank region known as Area C face poor roads and a lack of electricity
[01:58.160 --> 02:03.200]  and water. Permission from the Israelis is required for construction projects, yet permits
[02:03.200 --> 02:08.120]  are almost never given to Palestinians. Israel has issued five municipalities' stop-work
[02:08.120 --> 02:13.600]  orders, the first step to demolishing the turbines and solar panels. Project founder
[02:13.600 --> 02:19.600]  Noam Dotan said the demolition orders are a clear signal to all European Union countries
[02:19.600 --> 02:24.000]  do not interfere in Area C.
[02:24.000 --> 02:29.600]  The battle over the Keystone XL oil pipeline continued in the U.S. Senate this week as
[02:29.600 --> 02:34.700]  Republican senators tried to force White House approval of the project, including attaching
[02:34.700 --> 02:40.240]  a measure to the Federal Transportation Bill and tying future oil sales from the Strategic
[02:40.240 --> 02:46.240]  Petroleum Reserve to pipeline approval. Meanwhile, landowners along the route of the proposed
[02:46.240 --> 02:50.920]  pipelines say they are being bullied by the pipeline's owner, TransCanada, which has
[02:50.920 --> 02:55.920]  threatened to invoke imminent domain to condemn family farms and private property.
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[03:11.920 --> 03:26.920]  Thank you for watching.
[03:26.920 --> 03:55.000]  Okay, we're back. Rainy Kelton, David Stevens, David Crade with Logo Radio. I had about
[03:55.000 --> 04:01.280]  a dozen issues that I still want to go to. I've got some callers and I've been waiting
[04:01.280 --> 04:09.800]  quite a while, so I'm going to go to Dustin in Texas. Dustin, is he going to thump the
[04:09.800 --> 04:12.400]  chump for us today?
[04:12.400 --> 04:17.680]  I don't think I have the bright legal mind that y'all guys have, but I just wanted to
[04:17.680 --> 04:24.960]  call and tell y'all how much I enjoy the show and that y'all explain in the intricacies
[04:24.960 --> 04:28.280]  of the courts and stuff. I don't think there's a lot of people around the country that does
[04:28.280 --> 04:36.640]  what y'all do, and I'm pretty grateful for it. I do have a question along the same lines
[04:36.640 --> 04:42.360]  since y'all were talking about going after the lawyers that are suing you whenever you
[04:42.360 --> 04:48.960]  might be getting robo signed on in these foreclosures and they might not be valid. What about turning
[04:48.960 --> 04:54.480]  into tables and since the banks are trying to steal houses from all these good people,
[04:54.480 --> 05:00.200]  what about going to steal houses from the banks? How do I go about finding out what
[05:00.200 --> 05:07.800]  houses that I could file an adverse possession on and move into those houses and take them?
[05:07.800 --> 05:12.840]  Okay. Steve, you want to address adverse possession?
[05:12.840 --> 05:26.120]  Well, adverse possession is, I know exactly what you're talking about. I think the adverse
[05:26.120 --> 05:33.240]  possession thing came up, came very close to people's minds when a man moved down from
[05:33.240 --> 05:40.240]  Chicago and adversely possessed a piece of property around Dallas, Texas. He has since
[05:40.240 --> 05:46.200]  been removed from the property. He didn't get to keep it. So the courts are really,
[05:46.200 --> 05:50.800]  really cracking down on this adverse possession thing.
[05:50.800 --> 06:00.160]  This guy didn't, when I heard the story, he clearly did not understand adverse possession.
[06:00.160 --> 06:10.880]  If you take possession of property, you have to hold it for seven years and you have to
[06:10.880 --> 06:18.760]  hold it adverse to the owner. If the owner comes by and sees you on the property and
[06:18.760 --> 06:24.840]  says, okay, you can say if you want to for now, you can never, ever take the property
[06:24.840 --> 06:30.720]  by adverse possession. You have to maintain the property for seven
[06:30.720 --> 06:39.160]  years and that is really designed to go to abandoned property where someone has purchased
[06:39.160 --> 06:47.600]  property as an investment, then he passed away in New York and his kids inherited the
[06:47.600 --> 06:51.680]  property. They've never seen it down here in Hillbilly, Texas. They didn't care about
[06:51.680 --> 06:58.760]  it and just forgot about it. So it just sits there. Maybe the next door
[06:58.760 --> 07:05.320]  neighbor was running cattle on it and he has been for all this time. If you go in and take
[07:05.320 --> 07:10.120]  possession of the property and improve it and hold it for seven years, then you can
[07:10.120 --> 07:19.440]  claim it under adverse possession. But it has to be adverse. It has to be for seven years.
[07:19.440 --> 07:22.880]  This guy in Lewisville had no clues to what he was getting into. When I heard what was
[07:22.880 --> 07:25.520]  going on, I said, not going to happen, Bubba.
[07:25.520 --> 07:26.520]  Yeah, that's right.
[07:26.520 --> 07:35.080]  It's going to long toss you out. So there are ways of doing things that's not it. There
[07:35.080 --> 07:43.400]  are ways that I don't like to talk about on the air, but if you send me an email, I'll
[07:43.400 --> 07:49.720]  discuss some of the other things you can do to the banks that have to do with going back
[07:49.720 --> 07:56.480]  and looking at these improper foreclosures. But as far as adverse possession, not going
[07:56.480 --> 07:58.480]  to happen.
[07:58.480 --> 08:00.480]  Okay.
[08:00.480 --> 08:08.640]  Now, there is another way. We had one of our callers that calls in on a regular basis
[08:08.640 --> 08:16.720]  to talk to him about this, and he was saying you will be surprised how much property there
[08:16.720 --> 08:25.080]  is around that nobody actually has ownership of. And you can find this by looking through
[08:25.080 --> 08:33.560]  the court records that there's property out there that's been abandoned that may have
[08:33.560 --> 08:43.600]  went up for tax sale and the county got no bids on it. And then they didn't do anything
[08:43.600 --> 08:50.160]  with it. It's just sitting out there. And if you can find property that's not being
[08:50.160 --> 08:57.720]  taxed. That's essentially off the tax rolls. Then you go have a look at it and what he
[08:57.720 --> 09:03.720]  would do. In these cases, he was doing this where it only took three years. He would go
[09:03.720 --> 09:09.280]  in the property with a newspaper and photograph himself on the property. He generally wants
[09:09.280 --> 09:14.600]  it grown up and run down and ran a cycle. And then he'll go in and pay the taxes, clean
[09:14.600 --> 09:19.480]  the place up. And then after three years, he'll get another newspaper and photograph
[09:19.480 --> 09:23.000]  himself on the property. The property will clean up and everything. And then go down
[09:23.000 --> 09:29.080]  to the court. He'll notify the court that he has paid the taxes on this property for
[09:29.080 --> 09:35.400]  the last three years. He's maintained it. And he asks the court to give him title to
[09:35.400 --> 09:42.680]  it. And there's requirements where you have to file a public notice in a certain local
[09:42.680 --> 09:49.240]  papers of a certain amount of circulation over a certain time. And then you go into court
[09:49.240 --> 09:53.160]  and the judge will look around and say, does anyone have any objections? He says, you know,
[09:53.160 --> 10:01.040]  there's nobody there. Let's give you the property. But that's not going to go to a property with
[10:01.040 --> 10:05.920]  a home on it, at least a recent home. You know, some old rundown homes that have been
[10:05.920 --> 10:11.320]  abandoned, maybe, but that's not going to happen very often with these homes that are
[10:11.320 --> 10:18.120]  in foreclosure. I don't think you'll find that where you can do that kind of thing.
[10:18.120 --> 10:25.320]  Kind of answer your question, Dustin. Kind of, you know, I was, you know, also kind
[10:25.320 --> 10:29.560]  of, you know, when you were just talking about just there, that sounds a little bit along
[10:29.560 --> 10:35.560]  the lines of what I've heard adverse possession was as well. So, but maybe, you know, is there
[10:35.560 --> 10:39.800]  when you say, like, look at the, go look at the court record, which I've heard you mentioned
[10:39.800 --> 10:45.480]  numerous times for, you know, discovery. Is it, is that something that's like free?
[10:45.480 --> 10:53.240]  Do you have to pay money every time? Oh, yeah. How do you do that? Absolutely open records.
[10:53.240 --> 10:57.480]  And for this kind of thing, you could probably go down and talk to the county registrar's
[10:57.480 --> 11:01.960]  office in asking for a list of all of the properties that are not being taxed, that
[11:01.960 --> 11:06.800]  are not on the tax rolls. And he'd probably give you a list of all of these properties
[11:06.800 --> 11:09.680]  and then you can go down and look at the plaques and see where they're at and you can look
[11:09.680 --> 11:16.840]  at the properties from the plat. They are very, very helpful down there because you
[11:16.840 --> 11:22.360]  have people coming into entitled searches all the time. So, every time you're there, you'll
[11:22.360 --> 11:28.240]  see a lot of people there digging through the records. So, this is real common. It's
[11:28.240 --> 11:32.960]  not like when one of us goes down to the court and demands to see some records and then the
[11:32.960 --> 11:37.480]  court wants to do a song and dance because the criminal courts don't generally have
[11:37.480 --> 11:42.600]  private citizens looking in the records. The county registrar's office is filled with
[11:42.600 --> 11:47.840]  private citizens all the time going through the records. So, that's piece of cake and
[11:47.840 --> 11:55.960]  they are extremely helpful. The one place in the court system that I very rarely ever
[11:55.960 --> 12:03.040]  have a complaint with is the clerk's office. The clerk's just a keeper of records and they
[12:03.040 --> 12:08.600]  don't tend to care about adjudication of cases and none of that stuff. They're there to keep
[12:08.600 --> 12:11.960]  the record. They're there to make it available to the public and generally they do that.
[12:11.960 --> 12:13.960]  So, you shouldn't have any problem with all of that.
[12:13.960 --> 12:17.960]  Okay. Do you have anything else for us?
[12:17.960 --> 12:23.360]  No, that's it. I just want to thank y'all for the work you do and I appreciate listening
[12:23.360 --> 12:25.360]  to you guys every night.
[12:25.360 --> 12:31.280]  Good. Glad to hear it. That's what keeps us coming back. Thank you, Dustin. Now we're
[12:31.280 --> 12:38.280]  going to go to Johnny in Texas. There we go. Johnny.
[12:38.280 --> 12:40.280]  Hey, guys.
[12:40.280 --> 12:44.280]  There you go. What do you got for us?
[12:44.280 --> 12:51.960]  Well, you guys were talking about the 51903 process and I just want to share a little
[12:51.960 --> 12:56.840]  bit about my experience with that. I actually have one pending right now and I've done
[12:56.840 --> 13:06.120]  a lot of study on it. The first issue with these things is that according to the case
[13:06.120 --> 13:14.000]  law that I've studied, I see a definite pattern of the courts trying to find every reason
[13:14.000 --> 13:21.160]  that they can to call it declaratory. And the reason for that is because if you attach
[13:21.160 --> 13:26.920]  anything to the motion or make any arguments or do anything that could be construed as
[13:26.920 --> 13:33.440]  declaratory, they'll call it declaratory and then notice to the other party is required,
[13:33.440 --> 13:36.760]  then you've got to stand there and argue with the attorneys where it's supposed to be just
[13:36.760 --> 13:38.760]  you and the judge, ex parte.
[13:38.760 --> 13:41.760]  Can you send me that research?
[13:41.760 --> 13:48.000]  Yep, I can. And I can also send you some other documents. I have by no other people
[13:48.000 --> 13:51.440]  who have gone through these procedures as well.
[13:51.440 --> 13:59.640]  Oh, wonderful. I will build a, I'm putting together a research repository.
[13:59.640 --> 14:02.920]  I've got a ton on it. I'll be glad to email it to you.
[14:02.920 --> 14:08.960]  Good, wonderful. As a matter of fact, I just purchased equipment for it today. And I have,
[14:08.960 --> 14:19.720]  I'm purchasing a RAID server, an NAS server that's a network available storage that will
[14:19.720 --> 14:25.200]  have a network presence and all it is is just a big storage device. And we'll store all
[14:25.200 --> 14:31.040]  of our research on there and people can go in and dig through the folders. I have a 16
[14:31.040 --> 14:40.080]  gig folder of research and that doesn't count my mortgage folder. You know, when I do research,
[14:40.080 --> 14:45.080]  you know, if you've done research, you know that you're looking for one thing, you come
[14:45.080 --> 14:52.520]  across all these cases about other issues and on great points. So I kept losing them.
[14:52.520 --> 14:57.800]  So I started, I took this folder and every time I'd come across a case on a point that
[14:57.800 --> 15:04.120]  I wasn't chasing right now, but I was pretty certain I would, I would create a descriptive
[15:04.120 --> 15:14.000]  folder and drop it in there. Last time I looked at this up to 16 gig, but it is extremely
[15:14.000 --> 15:19.840]  helpful. You'll hear me on the air. Somebody will ask a question. Someone asked about agency.
[15:19.840 --> 15:29.560]  Oh yeah, I got a folder on agency. I just go in, zip the folder and send it. I put this
[15:29.560 --> 15:38.360]  up as a repository. I won't have it where everybody can just upload to it because we
[15:38.360 --> 15:45.640]  have government shills out there who'll load trash. So there's always problems like that.
[15:45.640 --> 15:51.000]  So I'll have a folder we can load things to and then I'll go in, look at them and make
[15:51.000 --> 15:56.400]  sure they're not viruses or something. Sure. And then put them up so we can get at them.
[15:56.400 --> 16:03.400]  So if we have some interesting research that you'd like to see it and it will help with
[16:03.400 --> 16:12.000]  a larger goal. I've been talking for a long time about litigation engine and I know people
[16:12.000 --> 16:17.280]  are probably getting tired of hearing about it, but I'm not seeing it, but it is really
[16:17.280 --> 16:26.280]  coming together. It's one thing to have an idea, but it's quite another to turn that
[16:26.280 --> 16:36.440]  idea into flesh and bone, into something real. It gets into massive amounts of detail and
[16:36.440 --> 16:44.080]  research a while. I'm at the point to start implementing what we've been talking about
[16:44.080 --> 16:48.960]  and I'll leave this research to you and I'll explain a little bit when I come back. And
[16:48.960 --> 16:55.960]  then we'll go to Carlos. This is Randy Kelvin, David Stevens and Greg. We'll be right back.
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[19:00.120 --> 19:08.240]  Well don't let nothing get to you. Only the father can do it by you. Don't let backmine
[19:08.240 --> 19:17.240]  people hurt you until they can get behind you. You know what I mean? My friend, Mala
[19:17.240 --> 19:18.240]  Jackson.
[19:18.240 --> 19:46.400]  Okay, we're back. When we come back, Steve and Jerry Craig move on radio. And we're
[19:46.400 --> 19:55.280]  talking to Johnny in Texas. I was talking about the litigation that I'm building. And
[19:55.280 --> 20:05.120]  it's really getting close. And the reason I'm so interested in this research is everything
[20:05.120 --> 20:12.440]  we're doing, we're building questions to examine it. If you have addressed this issue
[20:12.440 --> 20:18.160]  in some detail, there is something else I'd like to ask you for.
[20:18.160 --> 20:33.160]  Okay. Imagine that you're representing someone on this issue. And this is your client. And
[20:33.160 --> 20:38.040]  imagine your attorney. We're not attorneys, but we can imagine do a thought experiment.
[20:38.040 --> 20:45.320]  Imagine you have your client on the stand and he is your witness, so you can't ask
[20:45.320 --> 20:54.160]  a leading question. And your client, unlike the real world, can only answer precisely
[20:54.160 --> 21:03.040]  the question that you ask him. What questions would you ask to elicit the legal elements
[21:03.040 --> 21:10.920]  of this issue? We'll take that and build it into an online interactive questionnaire.
[21:10.920 --> 21:22.120]  Well, and I actually do have quite a few depositions from bank executives and whatnot
[21:22.120 --> 21:30.480]  that have been put on the stand and put through the ringer and led into admitting all various
[21:30.480 --> 21:36.480]  sorts of fraud. So, you know, I would use those depositions as a pattern.
[21:36.480 --> 21:42.480]  Oh, wonderful. Have you ever looked at proof of facts?
[21:42.480 --> 21:48.480]  Well, I'm not sure to what extent you're speaking, but yes, I'm one.
[21:48.480 --> 21:54.480]  Go down to the legal library. I went down to the legal library in Arlington one time,
[21:54.480 --> 22:04.480]  University of Texas. I do use Lexus, but they had Westlaw. And I took a USB stick with me
[22:04.480 --> 22:14.480]  and looked into proof of facts. Proof of facts, you select an issue.
[22:14.480 --> 22:22.480]  It gives you all the questions you need to ask to elicit the elements of the issue.
[22:22.480 --> 22:24.480]  Right.
[22:24.480 --> 22:31.480]  It's something we haven't talked about here much, but I should more because this is designed just
[22:31.480 --> 22:35.480]  with this purpose to make sure you don't miss anything.
[22:35.480 --> 22:36.480]  Absolutely.
[22:36.480 --> 22:41.480]  Okay. I just thought I'd bring that up in passing, but if you could do that, we'll start.
[22:41.480 --> 22:51.480]  I'm going to start building online tools. Once somebody has been through an issue, if we can
[22:51.480 --> 22:59.480]  take that issue and render it into a set of questions, then we make it permanent.
[22:59.480 --> 23:07.480]  You don't have to relearn that piece of information. You don't have to redo all of this.
[23:07.480 --> 23:15.480]  Then we get to add more pieces to it. I'm building a tool that will make it available to lawyers.
[23:15.480 --> 23:25.480]  And because it will make lawyers' lives easier, they'll use it even though they know that this
[23:25.480 --> 23:32.480]  tool will eventually eliminate their careers. Because in the questionnaire, if they have
[23:32.480 --> 23:38.480]  an issue that they address that we don't, then we'll give them a tool to add their questions
[23:38.480 --> 23:40.480]  to the questionnaire.
[23:40.480 --> 23:49.480]  I see. And in that way, we capture their expertise. We capture all of them's expertise.
[23:49.480 --> 23:54.480]  Then what do we need those chumps for? Absolutely.
[23:54.480 --> 24:06.480]  So this is the goal, is to eliminate the profession of lawyer and get lawyers to pay us to do it.
[24:06.480 --> 24:15.480]  We're close. I would like to address this in a little more detail.
[24:15.480 --> 24:22.480]  Can you tell us what we need to look for? We're going to raise this issue under 51903.
[24:22.480 --> 24:30.480]  What do we need to look for so that we can bring this issue and not get into a position
[24:30.480 --> 24:35.480]  to where we have to argue it against counsel?
[24:35.480 --> 24:43.480]  Okay. Well, the first issue you're going to face is the clerk, you know, as Steve said
[24:43.480 --> 24:50.480]  just a bit ago, this is a relatively obscure procedure that Maryland people have forgotten
[24:50.480 --> 24:56.480]  about. So there haven't been a lot of these things filed recently in the Texas courts.
[24:56.480 --> 25:02.480]  The clerks have no clue what they are. It took me 40 minutes to get mine filed because
[25:02.480 --> 25:07.480]  they could not fathom, they could not wrap their heads around the concept that there is
[25:07.480 --> 25:14.480]  no other side to serve notice on. They wanted to see Certificate of Conference and Certificate of Service.
[25:14.480 --> 25:20.480]  In anticipation of that, I actually printed out on the case law and sent you on it as a courtesy
[25:20.480 --> 25:25.480]  to help them understand. They didn't want to take it as close. Make it longer.
[25:25.480 --> 25:27.480]  You're fading out there.
[25:27.480 --> 25:34.480]  Oh, is that better? You're fading out because your paper raven is drowning out, Randy.
[25:34.480 --> 25:37.480]  Yeah, that's not, I don't know what that rattle is.
[25:37.480 --> 25:41.480]  Yeah, that was me. I thought it was just, I thought I was the only one hearing it.
[25:41.480 --> 25:44.480]  It was my fault, my fault.
[25:44.480 --> 25:49.480]  So anyway, I ended up with all in all and eight people huddled around this thing trying to figure
[25:49.480 --> 25:54.480]  out what on earth I was talking about because they were trying to refuse to take it without,
[25:54.480 --> 25:59.480]  you know, but notice to the other side. They finally pulled out the statutes and came to their own conclusion
[25:59.480 --> 26:04.480]  that yes, there's no notice to the other side. There is no other side.
[26:04.480 --> 26:08.480]  They finally took it and filed it.
[26:08.480 --> 26:14.480]  And the, so the point there is if you're going to file one, you really need to study the statute
[26:14.480 --> 26:19.480]  and understand it so that you can, because you will have to stand there and argue with the clerks,
[26:19.480 --> 26:24.480]  or you may have to, I should say, I guess it depends on what court and what county you're in.
[26:24.480 --> 26:27.480]  So that's the first issue.
[26:27.480 --> 26:34.480]  The second issue is, as I said before, the, the, if you look at the case law on it,
[26:34.480 --> 26:41.480]  you see a definite pattern of the court trying to call them declaratory and the issue there is
[26:41.480 --> 26:49.480]  there was a Supreme Court case ruling where somebody filed a 51903 motion and court gave notice,
[26:49.480 --> 26:53.480]  they took, on their own court, they gave notice to the other side.
[26:53.480 --> 27:01.480]  And he took it on up the, on up the chain and the way they construe it is if you, if you ask for anything,
[27:01.480 --> 27:10.480]  if you take, if you ask for anything that is outside of the very narrow statutory scope,
[27:10.480 --> 27:12.480]  they will call it declaratory.
[27:12.480 --> 27:19.480]  And if, if it's declaratory, the other side or what they call the affected party gets notice.
[27:19.480 --> 27:23.480]  What some courts have done is they have, they have sent that notice on their own accord.
[27:23.480 --> 27:27.480]  In my case, what they're doing, I have one pending right now.
[27:27.480 --> 27:29.480]  Excuse me.
[27:29.480 --> 27:33.480]  So what they're doing to me is the judge is saying, I'm not going to hear it.
[27:33.480 --> 27:34.480]  I'm not going to rule on it.
[27:34.480 --> 27:39.480]  I'm not going to do anything until you notify the other side.
[27:39.480 --> 27:51.480]  So what I've done in my case is I went down and filed a certificate of conference and certificate of,
[27:51.480 --> 27:55.480]  yeah, certificate of conference and certificate of service.
[27:55.480 --> 28:00.480]  And, and in the body of that just basically put percent of 51903, you know, I'm the only affected party,
[28:00.480 --> 28:02.480]  there is no other side.
[28:02.480 --> 28:04.480]  So we'll see if that gets it going.
[28:04.480 --> 28:09.480]  And just, if you, and if you take it outside of that narrow statutory box,
[28:09.480 --> 28:13.480]  they'll call it declaratory so that they can bring the other side in.
[28:13.480 --> 28:15.480]  So be aware of that.
[28:15.480 --> 28:26.480]  And they construe that based on what is attached to the motion for judicial review of document or instrument purporting to create a lien or claim.
[28:26.480 --> 28:30.480]  So the key there is what's attached to it.
[28:30.480 --> 28:36.480]  You can hand in anything else you want for informational purposes along with the motion.
[28:36.480 --> 28:43.480]  But if you, if you attach basically anything to the motion other than the document that you're contesting,
[28:43.480 --> 28:48.480]  that'll make it declaratory and the other side comes in and you've got to, you know, go through all that.
[28:48.480 --> 28:51.480]  So be aware of that.
[28:51.480 --> 29:02.480]  And the final issue that I would say you need to be aware of is pursuant to a recent appellate court ruling,
[29:02.480 --> 29:05.480]  someone who happens to be a friend of mine.
[29:05.480 --> 29:11.480]  The appellate court has said you cannot use these things to challenge an assignment.
[29:11.480 --> 29:18.480]  And even if you look in, you know, the 51903 actually gives you the motion in the body of the statute.
[29:18.480 --> 29:24.480]  It has the template right there in the statutes.
[29:24.480 --> 29:30.480]  And it says in there that you're not asking the court to challenge the underlying validity or debt.
[29:30.480 --> 29:34.480]  You're just challenging the document.
[29:34.480 --> 29:41.480]  Yes, and it appears to go specifically to a document establishing a lien.
[29:41.480 --> 29:48.480]  So I understand why they would say that about the assignment, because it doesn't establish it.
[29:48.480 --> 29:50.480]  And the statute is going in there for someone.
[29:50.480 --> 29:53.480]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, David Stevenson, and Craig.
[29:53.480 --> 29:54.480]  We'll blow radio.
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[32:43.480 --> 32:47.480]  Okay, this is Randy Kalb, Debussy, and J.D. Craig with Royal Radio,
[32:47.480 --> 32:51.480]  and for me this is an extremely interesting point.
[32:51.480 --> 32:54.480]  I know I'm just putting a little extra time on it,
[32:54.480 --> 33:01.480]  but this is another form of mimicry.
[33:01.480 --> 33:10.480]  And Steve and I were discussing on the break that because this is obscure,
[33:10.480 --> 33:15.480]  Steve, you talk about what you were talking about on the break about,
[33:15.480 --> 33:17.480]  and how nobody has seen this.
[33:17.480 --> 33:23.480]  The obscurity of this thing is not only to representative counsel,
[33:23.480 --> 33:27.480]  it's also obscure to the courts, and Johnny is exactly right.
[33:27.480 --> 33:36.480]  The first client that we had go through this in Travis County had very similar issues
[33:36.480 --> 33:40.480]  in where it didn't take him very long at all to get it filed.
[33:40.480 --> 33:43.480]  Getting it set for a hearing was another issue.
[33:43.480 --> 33:47.480]  That took days.
[33:47.480 --> 33:51.480]  We spoke with clerks with 20 years experience and 24 years experience.
[33:51.480 --> 33:55.480]  Neither one had ever seen anything like this.
[33:55.480 --> 33:59.480]  So since these guys are front line,
[33:59.480 --> 34:03.480]  we can reasonably assume that the judges haven't seen it either.
[34:03.480 --> 34:07.480]  So when a judge gets a pleading that he's never seen,
[34:07.480 --> 34:10.480]  he's going to turn to one of his fellow judges and say,
[34:10.480 --> 34:13.480]  have you ever seen one of these? No, what is that?
[34:13.480 --> 34:15.480]  I don't know, George, have you ever seen one?
[34:15.480 --> 34:17.480]  What is that? I've never seen one.
[34:17.480 --> 34:20.480]  Oh boy, tell you what, I got a nice box of Cubans and a bottle of pinch.
[34:20.480 --> 34:23.480]  At about five o'clock we sit down and see what this makes this thing tick.
[34:23.480 --> 34:25.480]  This is a judicial conference.
[34:25.480 --> 34:30.480]  We have reason to believe that there was a judicial conference drawn over this man's pleading here
[34:30.480 --> 34:34.480]  in Travis County because when this man went to hearing,
[34:34.480 --> 34:40.480]  I'd also like to point out that this man didn't face near the adversity
[34:40.480 --> 34:43.480]  at the court level that Johnny's describing.
[34:43.480 --> 34:49.480]  And I'm sure that there are some judges who are much more stubborn than others
[34:49.480 --> 34:55.480]  and others will actually turn to their hires or turn to their fellow judges
[34:55.480 --> 34:57.480]  and say, yeah, what do we do with this?
[34:57.480 --> 35:01.480]  But we've reason to believe that there was a judicial conference drawn over this
[35:01.480 --> 35:10.480]  because when one of our PIs called out to Comal County looking for county records there,
[35:10.480 --> 35:14.480]  the question is asked, well, who are you and what do you want these for?
[35:14.480 --> 35:16.480]  Well, I'm a private investigator.
[35:16.480 --> 35:21.480]  I'm working in conjunction with Endless Fraud Detection.
[35:21.480 --> 35:25.480]  We're doing chain of title, oh, okay, chain of title research.
[35:25.480 --> 35:29.480]  Okay, yeah, we know exactly who you are and we know exactly what you want
[35:29.480 --> 35:32.480]  and if there's anything we can do to help you, let us know.
[35:32.480 --> 35:45.480]  Apparently, this pleading spawned another conference of several counties, clerks, judges, and DAs.
[35:45.480 --> 35:52.480]  I believe Comal, Travis, and another neighboring county here in Texas were represented at this meeting,
[35:52.480 --> 35:57.480]  but apparently they had decided that this is exactly what the court needs.
[35:57.480 --> 36:06.480]  And Johnny is on point that you've got to be very careful in what you put in
[36:06.480 --> 36:12.480]  and this is another reason why we seriously, honestly, strongly encourage our clients
[36:12.480 --> 36:18.480]  once you've got something to take to an attorney, take it to an attorney.
[36:18.480 --> 36:23.480]  If it's valuable enough, no matter how smart you think you are,
[36:23.480 --> 36:32.480]  no matter how good an orator you think you are, you can't overcome the prosa virus.
[36:32.480 --> 36:40.480]  This is true in some cases, but in other cases, we're seeing prosa litigants do this with success.
[36:40.480 --> 36:47.480]  We've got two successful cases, one out of, well, one here in Travis County
[36:47.480 --> 36:54.480]  that actually set precedents here, the case that I referred to out of Harris County
[36:54.480 --> 36:57.480]  and the other one out of Dallas.
[36:57.480 --> 37:04.480]  Now, I think as people start to bring these to the court, it will temper the court.
[37:04.480 --> 37:09.480]  They will have a better idea of what should be done with these things.
[37:09.480 --> 37:18.480]  So there are some of the litigants who are going to be trailblazers for others.
[37:18.480 --> 37:22.480]  But somewhere along the line, the courts are going to see the sense in this,
[37:22.480 --> 37:26.480]  it's the Texas legislature that put this in action.
[37:26.480 --> 37:33.480]  This is the remedy that they offered and I quote from the code, offered a debtor or obligor.
[37:33.480 --> 37:41.480]  So why we're getting, why litigants are getting so much resistance from the courts?
[37:41.480 --> 37:43.480]  I can't speak to that.
[37:43.480 --> 37:46.480]  But I think it's appropriate.
[37:46.480 --> 37:51.480]  You're bringing something to the court that they haven't seen before.
[37:51.480 --> 37:54.480]  The judges are conservative.
[37:54.480 --> 37:58.480]  They don't want to issue bad law.
[37:58.480 --> 38:07.480]  John, he spoke to this judge being stubborn, well, maybe a stubborn and maybe he's being cautious.
[38:07.480 --> 38:13.480]  And in the end, that will likely give you a much better decision.
[38:13.480 --> 38:18.480]  There's also a possibility these judges are heavily invested in these real estate schemes to begin with
[38:18.480 --> 38:24.480]  and they know that they're watching their profits slide right down the drain with the decisions they make.
[38:24.480 --> 38:26.480]  That's a possibility.
[38:26.480 --> 38:33.480]  I believe that in my case, I know, well, I won't take up a lot of time going into detail on it,
[38:33.480 --> 38:36.480]  but I know that they're playing games with mine.
[38:36.480 --> 38:40.480]  And also, Steve, you brought up judicial conference.
[38:40.480 --> 38:46.480]  It's interesting, two days after I filed mine, I went up to talk with court coordinator just to see if it had been set on the docket.
[38:46.480 --> 38:52.480]  Okay, the court coordinator who manages the docket for the judge told me that they couldn't set it for hearing
[38:52.480 --> 38:55.480]  because the judge was out at a judicial conference.
[38:55.480 --> 39:00.480]  So you may have a judicial conference in my neck of the woods.
[39:00.480 --> 39:02.480]  I wonder what they were looking at.
[39:02.480 --> 39:04.480]  Yeah, I don't know.
[39:04.480 --> 39:10.480]  But to finish up quickly, I don't want to thank you much more of you guys' time, but on my last point,
[39:10.480 --> 39:22.480]  the key is it's a judicial review of document or instrument purporting to create a lien or claim.
[39:22.480 --> 39:31.480]  And the appellate court has recently said that you can't use 51903 to challenge an assignment.
[39:31.480 --> 39:39.480]  However, and even the body of the motion says you're not asking your court to make a determination on, you know, any underlying debt.
[39:39.480 --> 39:42.480]  The key is creation.
[39:42.480 --> 39:50.480]  In most of the mortgage cases, the lender did not perfect the lien within whatever, I believe it's 21 days.
[39:50.480 --> 39:53.480]  So the original lien expired.
[39:53.480 --> 40:03.480]  And the assignment, which is often filed years later, is an attempt to recreate an expired lien.
[40:03.480 --> 40:05.480]  That's what you have to focus on.
[40:05.480 --> 40:13.480]  Otherwise, they'll, you know, say you're asking for declaratory, you know, and try to bring the other side in.
[40:13.480 --> 40:15.480]  Want the other side in?
[40:15.480 --> 40:16.480]  May I ask a question?
[40:16.480 --> 40:19.480]  Is your given name Johnny?
[40:19.480 --> 40:20.480]  No.
[40:20.480 --> 40:21.480]  Okay.
[40:21.480 --> 40:23.480]  I think I know who you are, folks.
[40:23.480 --> 40:25.480]  I think I know who this guy is.
[40:25.480 --> 40:29.480]  Very, very good researcher.
[40:29.480 --> 40:31.480]  If you are who I think you are.
[40:31.480 --> 40:41.480]  My hat is off to you for your diligence and your persistence in this.
[40:41.480 --> 40:44.480]  Well, I appreciate that.
[40:44.480 --> 40:52.480]  The last point is, if you look at the construction of the 51903, everything is May.
[40:52.480 --> 40:57.480]  You know, a hearing may be heard, ex parte, without a delay or notice of any kind.
[40:57.480 --> 41:04.480]  A judge may rule on the, you know, motion based on the documentation attached.
[41:04.480 --> 41:06.480]  Everything in there is May.
[41:06.480 --> 41:11.480]  Until you get to section C and it says an appellate court shall.
[41:11.480 --> 41:14.480]  Let's come Heller High Water, that better happen.
[41:14.480 --> 41:17.480]  The appellate court shall, but the trial court may.
[41:17.480 --> 41:18.480]  Right.
[41:18.480 --> 41:19.480]  But the trial court may.
[41:19.480 --> 41:20.480]  You're correct.
[41:20.480 --> 41:23.480]  I find that word may not have to hear it.
[41:23.480 --> 41:24.480]  So, really?
[41:24.480 --> 41:25.480]  What?
[41:25.480 --> 41:27.480]  That leaves some discretion.
[41:27.480 --> 41:37.480]  The way to read that is not that it gives the court caprice, but gives the court authority.
[41:37.480 --> 41:38.480]  Right.
[41:38.480 --> 41:43.480]  Another possibility too, depending upon the context, there are instances where May still
[41:43.480 --> 41:44.480]  means must.
[41:44.480 --> 41:49.480]  It just depends upon the context of the rest of the statutory language.
[41:49.480 --> 41:59.480]  A good example being in chapter 30 of the government code where it says that a municipality may create a court of record by ordinance.
[41:59.480 --> 42:06.480]  But that simply means if you're going to create a court of record, it must be by ordinance.
[42:06.480 --> 42:09.480]  Otherwise, it's not going to be one.
[42:09.480 --> 42:10.480]  Correct.
[42:10.480 --> 42:14.480]  Well, they are hiding behind that word May in my case.
[42:14.480 --> 42:24.480]  So, you know, they're putting me in a position to where basically what they're conveying to me is unless and until I notify the affected party.
[42:24.480 --> 42:27.480]  You know, what they're claiming to be the affected party.
[42:27.480 --> 42:33.480]  I've already explained to them that I, you know, the affected party has noticed I am the affected party.
[42:33.480 --> 42:36.480]  They're basically just trying to let it sit and rot.
[42:36.480 --> 42:40.480]  And if they don't rule on it, I can't go through the normal appeals channels.
[42:40.480 --> 42:41.480]  So I have to.
[42:41.480 --> 42:45.480]  Did you petition for a written mandamus?
[42:45.480 --> 42:46.480]  Not yet.
[42:46.480 --> 42:47.480]  That's what I was just getting to.
[42:47.480 --> 42:54.480]  It's, mine's been in, it's been filed since January 19.
[42:54.480 --> 43:02.480]  And I've been looking at remedies, you know, trying to figure out how to just basically cut this court off.
[43:02.480 --> 43:18.480]  I've been down and filed an affidavit saying, you know, it's my understanding pursuant to my conversation with court coordinator on such and such state in time that the court is refusing, you know, to move or do anything on this motion until I notify the other side.
[43:18.480 --> 43:19.480]  Judicial notice.
[43:19.480 --> 43:31.480]  I gave this judge clear, right up front, clear judicial notice of all the case law so that she cannot possibly claim ignorance as to whether or not notice is required to the other side and she's still doing it.
[43:31.480 --> 43:33.480]  And that's, that's deliberate mis-reason.
[43:33.480 --> 43:35.480]  Mouth eases in office.
[43:35.480 --> 43:36.480]  Yeah.
[43:36.480 --> 43:38.480]  Sounds like you're covering all your bases.
[43:38.480 --> 43:40.480]  File an appeal with the grand jury.
[43:40.480 --> 43:44.480]  Appeal to the grand jury and die to judge for official oppression.
[43:44.480 --> 43:48.480]  For denying you right to the protection of the courts.
[43:48.480 --> 43:50.480]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig.
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[47:29.480 --> 47:32.480]  Kind of like his ability to hold his liquor
[47:32.480 --> 47:39.480]  So what we're going to do now is we're going to take our next car, which just happened to be Doug in Texas.
[47:39.480 --> 47:41.480]  Doug, what can we do for you?
[47:41.480 --> 47:54.480]  Hey Eddie, I was getting specifically requests that I talk to you or Stephen, and thank God Randy's peered out, whatever.
[47:54.480 --> 47:56.480]  Hi Doug!
[47:56.480 --> 48:04.480]  I feel disparaged, you're going to hurt my feelings.
[48:04.480 --> 48:06.480]  You got to have those first Randy.
[48:06.480 --> 48:13.480]  You do brand constantly, so why shouldn't I do you occasionally?
[48:13.480 --> 48:17.480]  Don't get in the battle of wits with him Doug, he's pretty unarmed.
[48:17.480 --> 48:19.480]  I understand that.
[48:19.480 --> 48:21.480]  What's the 190 proof question?
[48:21.480 --> 48:38.480]  Okay, the question is Eddie, I've been thinking about the license to privately investigate, and I was going to ask Steve what that entails to get that license, what do you have to do?
[48:38.480 --> 48:55.480]  And why should you have to do anything to ask questions, people, and this and that, and others. I could be elected sheriff running, you know, they have the sheriff's race going on in Bastrop County,
[48:55.480 --> 49:05.480]  and I could be elected that possibly or get on my best number of supporters out there.
[49:05.480 --> 49:09.480]  And I think it's only qualification to be sheriff in Bastrop.
[49:09.480 --> 49:15.480]  I don't think you could run for sheriff if you won, you'd be harassing yourself over Friday and Saturday night.
[49:15.480 --> 49:22.480]  Well, don't be too practical Eddie, just be theoretical.
[49:22.480 --> 49:43.480]  So what we have here is I would have no private investigators license, yet I could do all, you know, to the max, and I could appoint other people to do it in my name, and I wouldn't have to do anything other than be the age 35.
[49:43.480 --> 49:52.480]  And what are the requirements that the county sheriff for? Do them talk less, get it?
[49:52.480 --> 49:53.480]  I get it.
[49:53.480 --> 49:56.480]  I know Steve gets it too, right Steve?
[49:56.480 --> 49:57.480]  I think I do.
[49:57.480 --> 50:20.480]  The part about what you're asking though Doug is it's not an issue of asking questions. Part of the criteria is asking those questions for the purpose of collecting and gathering evidence for the purpose of submitting them to a court or other evidentiary body for the purpose of conducting a trial.
[50:20.480 --> 50:30.480]  In other words, that's the criteria. That authority is inherent in those given a peace officer's license.
[50:30.480 --> 50:36.480]  That same authority as the private investigator has is inherent in the peace officer's license.
[50:36.480 --> 50:47.480]  So any certified licensed peace officer can conduct those same activities. It is a necessary part of their duty.
[50:47.480 --> 50:57.480]  The big issue here though when it comes to the sheriff is whether or not the sheriff is allowed to enforce statute.
[50:57.480 --> 51:12.480]  Technically speaking, the sheriff is a judicial officer. He is not allowed to exercise executive authority, which is what statute enforcement is.
[51:12.480 --> 51:27.480]  Therefore, the sheriff by definition of his office under the Texas Constitution, the only law the sheriff can actively enforce is the Constitution itself as a judicial officer.
[51:27.480 --> 51:37.480]  He cannot jump ship and become an executive functionary for the purpose of enforcing statute.
[51:37.480 --> 51:48.480]  That covered some of the nuts and bolts and some of the reasoning for the license is that it is to give an air of trust.
[51:48.480 --> 52:00.480]  If somebody has something to lose, like a license, the reason that one would have to have this license is because a private investigator,
[52:00.480 --> 52:10.480]  particularly when investigating a white collar crime, can come in contact and be privy to people's very sensitive financial information,
[52:10.480 --> 52:23.480]  addresses, phone numbers, personal identification, issues like driver's license numbers, social security numbers.
[52:23.480 --> 52:33.480]  So by being licensed, this tells whoever goes to this individual to do this investigation that they are trusted by the state and that they have something at stake.
[52:33.480 --> 52:41.480]  They've got their license on the line and they've also got a bond or insurance that they've got to consider.
[52:41.480 --> 52:44.480]  So this would give an air of trust.
[52:44.480 --> 52:59.480]  Now there was somebody here a couple of months ago here in Austin, Texas that was running a foreclosure defense or foreclosure rescue scam in LA
[52:59.480 --> 53:10.480]  where this individual was getting these sensitive documents with this information on them and he was stealing their identity and running up a bunch of debt.
[53:10.480 --> 53:14.480]  The reason he did that is he didn't have much to lose.
[53:14.480 --> 53:24.480]  Okay, he gets caught, he does jail time and that's exactly what he's doing, but he doesn't have a license on the line and he doesn't have a $2 million insurance policy or bond or anything on the line.
[53:24.480 --> 53:33.480]  So since somebody's gone through the trouble of getting this license and it's not easy to get, I'll tell you from experience,
[53:33.480 --> 53:46.480]  we had to come in, excuse me, our company in order to get a company license had to go through all of the things laid out in the occupations code.
[53:46.480 --> 53:52.480]  Correct me if I'm wrong here Randy, under section 1702.
[53:52.480 --> 53:55.480]  All of these guidelines we had to meet.
[53:55.480 --> 53:58.480]  1702.103.
[53:58.480 --> 54:12.480]  Okay, but all of the requirements and procedure is found in 1702 if you're interested in getting a license.
[54:12.480 --> 54:21.480]  It's a laborious task, it's not cheap and it's not easy, but it can be done.
[54:21.480 --> 54:42.480]  Well Steve, I'm not really too interested in getting a driver's license, so I'm certainly not interested in getting a private investigator's license, but I guess I was asked to quit being a private investigator.
[54:42.480 --> 54:44.480]  I quit asking questions.
[54:44.480 --> 55:03.480]  No, you can ask questions, but when you go to bodies that aren't just readily available to the public and you start digging into things and your finding facts and you put those findings in a report and tended to go before a court of law,
[55:03.480 --> 55:06.480]  there are license requirements for that.
[55:06.480 --> 55:23.480]  You can look into your own issues all day and that raises another issue of bias and prejudice. If you have an interest in the outcome of your own investigation or an outcome of a case,
[55:23.480 --> 55:32.480]  you could stand a chance of omitting very important things that would not be fair to your opponent.
[55:32.480 --> 55:48.480]  So that's why it's important to get that third party with no interest in the outcome of the results of the investigation who is licensed and has the credentials to do it, who is insured or bonded and has something to lose.
[55:48.480 --> 55:52.480]  It's just the way it is.
[55:52.480 --> 56:05.480]  Well, slight correction here though. In actuality, you only have to have the license if you are being paid to collect and gather this information.
[56:05.480 --> 56:16.480]  It doesn't have to be strictly your case that you're doing it for. It can be on behalf of anybody as long as you're not getting paid for it.
[56:16.480 --> 56:26.480]  If you are getting paid, then you are conducting a business. If you are conducting a business, the license is then required.
[56:26.480 --> 56:35.480]  But privately, anyone can get access to the information and provide it as long as they're not getting paid for doing so.
[56:35.480 --> 56:42.480]  So in other words, I do not have to quit investigating Randy's beer fund.
[56:42.480 --> 56:47.480]  I would highly encourage you to continue investigating Randy's beer fund.
[56:47.480 --> 56:49.480]  I will do so.
[56:49.480 --> 56:55.480]  You may see a sharp rise in A&W or Barks stock here soon.
[56:55.480 --> 57:04.480]  You might want to check the bottom of the fund. You can probably see it because it's not going to be covered.
[57:04.480 --> 57:09.480]  Will do. Will do. Nice talking to you gentlemen.
[57:09.480 --> 57:11.480]  Thank you, Doug.
[57:11.480 --> 57:13.480]  Carry on.
[57:13.480 --> 57:23.480]  Okay. Thank you, Doug. Now we're going to go to Jury in Texas. Hello, Mr. Foreman.
[57:23.480 --> 57:44.480]  Deborah Steeve answered Doug. In the state of Texas, the county sheriff is the law enforcement officer. He has the right to choose volunteer deputy sheriffs, unpaid volunteers.
[57:44.480 --> 58:05.480]  And I believe they have the same rights and obligations that Doug needs to go investigate. So if he is housed with his sheriff and gets to be appointed as a volunteer deputy, he doesn't need a life.
[58:05.480 --> 58:09.480]  I think they call that dipstazine.
[58:09.480 --> 58:14.480]  Well, no, it's a volunteer. You can volunteer as a deputy in any Texas county.
[58:14.480 --> 58:17.480]  Well, he'd have to deputize it.
[58:17.480 --> 58:21.480]  Sheriff still has to accept you whether you're a volunteer or not.
[58:21.480 --> 58:39.480]  Yeah, it's generally a temporary appointment. Okay, hold on. We're going to go to break. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Steeve and Jennifer Craig. Blue Law Radio are calling number 512-646-1984. We'll go into our top of the hour break, so we'll be about two or three minutes.
[58:39.480 --> 59:00.480]  We'll go back to Jerry in Texas and then Steve in New York.
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[01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:37.480]  A new study by Australian think tank, the Gratton Institute, said quote,
[01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:47.480]  and Shanghai, the average 15-year-old mathematics student, is performing at a level two to three years above his or her counterpart in Australia, the U.S. and Europe.
[01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.480]  Gratton's school education program director said quote,
[01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:56.480]  as economic power is shifting from west to east, high performance in education is too.
[01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:03.480]  According to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission, Occupy Wall Street now has a super PAC.
[01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:08.480]  Super PACs or political action committees can raise unlimited amounts of money for candidates.
[01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:17.480]  Under the section for related organizations, the filing lists Occupy Wall Street with an address at none and everywhere in the city of all of them.
[01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:27.480]  Former U.S. government consultant and author Timothy Good claims President Dwight Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens.
[01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:34.480]  Good says Eisenhower met the extraterrestrials at a remote air base in New Mexico in 1954,
[01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:40.480]  and that Eisenhower and FBI officials organized the meeting by sending telepathic messages.
[01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:50.480]  Speaking on the BBC current affairs program opinionated, Good said governments around the world have been in regular contact with aliens for many decades.
[01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:58.480]  Quote, aliens have made both formal and informal contact with thousands of people throughout the world from all walks of life.
[01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:03.480]  WikiLeaks has been excluded from a UN conference on WikiLeaks in Paris.
[01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:14.480]  The whistleblower website that leaked hundreds of thousands of confidential military and diplomatic documents in 2010 lodged a strong protest with the UN Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization
[01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:23.480]  for banning it from an international conference, the media world after WikiLeaks, organized by the U.S. World Press Freedom Committee at UNESCO headquarters.
[01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:31.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a who's who of the website's opponents and critics, including speakers who are not merely critics,
[01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:35.480]  but for who have active legal conflicts with the organization.
[01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.480]  WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, currently under house arrest in England, said,
[01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:47.480]  UNESCO must conduct a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:02:47.480 --> 01:03:02.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:25.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:32.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:41.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:49.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:59.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:09.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:19.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:27.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:37.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:47.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:57.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:05.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:15.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:25.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:33.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:43.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:53.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:05:53.480 --> 01:06:01.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:11.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:21.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:29.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:39.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:49.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:57.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:07.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:17.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:25.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:35.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:47.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:57.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:07.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:17.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:08:17.480 --> 01:08:27.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:35.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:08:35.480 --> 01:08:45.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:08:45.480 --> 01:08:55.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:08:55.480 --> 01:09:03.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:09:03.480 --> 01:09:13.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:09:13.480 --> 01:09:23.480]  WikiLeaks said the conference was packed with a full frank and open investigation as to how its constitution has become a blunt instrument of censorship,
[01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:31.480]  adding, it's time to occupy UNESCO.
[01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:33.480]  Bankers are just as vulnerable.
[01:09:33.480 --> 01:09:35.480]  Okay, well go ahead.
[01:09:35.480 --> 01:09:43.480]  I just wanted to insert what had happened to me so far and I want you to go ahead and tell me how to use the 1099A in your situation.
[01:09:43.480 --> 01:09:57.480]  Well, what I plan on doing on my situation is once it's deemed by a court that the bank records are insufficient to create a valid lien,
[01:09:57.480 --> 01:10:07.480]  that would give me, that would set res judicata, res judicata meaning that this is law established in this case.
[01:10:07.480 --> 01:10:17.480]  Excuse me, using this as the foundation to file a declaratory action or declaratory action in where I will be asking for monetary damages
[01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:25.480]  and in where I will be blowing the whistle to other entities, including but not limited to the IRS.
[01:10:25.480 --> 01:10:27.480]  Okay.
[01:10:27.480 --> 01:10:37.480]  Now, this may open the door for me to file a quytam action and sue on behalf of or in the name of the IRS.
[01:10:37.480 --> 01:10:47.480]  In a quytam action, I might be awarded a part of the proceeds should that case be successful in court.
[01:10:47.480 --> 01:10:57.480]  Okay, so if they damaged the IRS, they also damaged me, but if I'm suing in the name of the IRS, I'm suing on their behalf.
[01:10:57.480 --> 01:10:59.480]  Okay.
[01:10:59.480 --> 01:11:05.480]  So they're entitled to the proceeds. They would as a favor for doing that, they might forward some of those proceeds back to me.
[01:11:05.480 --> 01:11:09.480]  That's how a quytam or part of how a quytam works.
[01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:19.480]  Actually, if you go in and file for that 5% penalty that the IRS sends people that bring actions to them.
[01:11:19.480 --> 01:11:23.480]  That's going to take a little more research on my part.
[01:11:23.480 --> 01:11:33.480]  Well, I'm aware of it and I need to research it too, but if you know of a fraudulent situation and you bring it to the IRS,
[01:11:33.480 --> 01:11:47.480]  and they go and file and bring in their funds, you're entitled to at least 5%, sometimes as much as 15%.
[01:11:47.480 --> 01:11:49.480]  Okay.
[01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:57.480]  So if you file a quytam and file that paper with them prior to filing a quytam,
[01:11:57.480 --> 01:12:05.480]  it's almost like you'd be guaranteeing yourself if they're going to pick it up.
[01:12:05.480 --> 01:12:11.480]  Yeah, from what I understand, they've got some pretty healthy lawyers.
[01:12:11.480 --> 01:12:13.480]  Yeah, that's true too.
[01:12:13.480 --> 01:12:23.480]  Okay, well, you've made a good point with me. I need to do some research on the 1099A though.
[01:12:23.480 --> 01:12:29.480]  Sure. All that is just evidence of an abandoned debt.
[01:12:29.480 --> 01:12:37.480]  And they're saying that, hey, Uncle Sam, we're not going to be sending you this money this next tax go around.
[01:12:37.480 --> 01:12:39.480]  We're going to write this off.
[01:12:39.480 --> 01:12:41.480]  Right.
[01:12:41.480 --> 01:12:47.480]  And then once they write it off and then they go ahead and start collecting it, it's a fraudulent instrument.
[01:12:47.480 --> 01:12:55.480]  Well, that being, if it's found, if the instruments that they're writing off or the debt,
[01:12:55.480 --> 01:13:02.480]  the instruments that would purport an alleged debt, if they're writing this off on their capital gains tax,
[01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:10.480]  and it's already been found or it's later found that the documents weren't worth the paper they were written on,
[01:13:10.480 --> 01:13:14.480]  this would equate that they weren't entitled to that write off.
[01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:19.480]  Or they defrauded the IRS by taking the write off when they weren't entitled to it.
[01:13:19.480 --> 01:13:28.480]  They defrauded the IRS by taking the write off, but they also defrauded the person who created the,
[01:13:28.480 --> 01:13:33.480]  who they said created the debt that wasn't any good.
[01:13:33.480 --> 01:13:34.480]  Correct.
[01:13:34.480 --> 01:13:36.480]  When they try to collect it, continue to collect it.
[01:13:36.480 --> 01:13:40.480]  Well, they're still creating fraud when they say that,
[01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:45.480]  okay, IRS, we're going to write this money off as a loss to us,
[01:13:45.480 --> 01:13:51.480]  and then secretly go back and try to collect that money off the record and off the books,
[01:13:51.480 --> 01:13:56.480]  and thus out of the view of the IRS for tax purposes,
[01:13:56.480 --> 01:14:00.480]  and thus get it back as if they were making the money.
[01:14:00.480 --> 01:14:03.480]  That's tax evasion.
[01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:05.480]  That's a whole other issue.
[01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:12.480]  But if they write it off, they can't go back and attempt to collect it because they've already said,
[01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:17.480]  we're giving up, we're going to take the loss on the money.
[01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:24.480]  If they try to go collect it after that and they have no intention of reporting the recovery of that money to the IRS,
[01:14:24.480 --> 01:14:26.480]  that's tax evasion.
[01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:29.480]  Okay.
[01:14:29.480 --> 01:14:31.480]  I'm following you.
[01:14:31.480 --> 01:14:37.480]  You've answered my question, Steve and Eddie and Randy.
[01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:42.480]  It never got me straightened out earlier, so I guess I'll be good to go.
[01:14:42.480 --> 01:14:43.480]  All right, David.
[01:14:43.480 --> 01:14:47.480]  Well, thanks for calling in.
[01:14:47.480 --> 01:14:50.480]  Okay, real quick before we go to the next caller, Randy,
[01:14:50.480 --> 01:14:52.480]  there's something that's floating around in my mind here,
[01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:55.480]  and I want to ask a question about it.
[01:14:55.480 --> 01:15:03.480]  We were talking about law enforcement having investigative purposes behind their actual job versus a private investigator,
[01:15:03.480 --> 01:15:06.480]  but let's talk about somebody who doesn't.
[01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:09.480]  Let's talk about code enforcement for just a second.
[01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:16.480]  Where does the statute give code enforcement investigative authority of any kind?
[01:15:16.480 --> 01:15:22.480]  And if they don't have it and they don't have an investigator's license,
[01:15:22.480 --> 01:15:29.480]  how are they lawfully able to trespass on people's property for the purpose of taking pictures,
[01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:34.480]  diagramming structures, invading structures,
[01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:44.480]  and then using that information as evidence to file in a court to initiate an action against a private citizen?
[01:15:44.480 --> 01:15:48.480]  It's their purpose to do inspections.
[01:15:48.480 --> 01:15:53.480]  What property? We're talking private property here versus commercial property.
[01:15:53.480 --> 01:16:00.480]  How does a code enforcement officer get authority to investigate private property?
[01:16:00.480 --> 01:16:03.480]  Okay, that's kind of a mixed issue.
[01:16:03.480 --> 01:16:06.480]  Granted, it is a mixed issue.
[01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:15.480]  Okay, so in commercial, you have no question about his authority to do these inspections.
[01:16:15.480 --> 01:16:19.480]  We call them investigations or inspections.
[01:16:19.480 --> 01:16:23.480]  They're not investigating the property. They're inspecting the property.
[01:16:23.480 --> 01:16:27.480]  They're only looking at what they can see.
[01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:36.480]  They say, okay, we don't have a question about them having authority to do that in a commercial property
[01:16:36.480 --> 01:16:40.480]  or a property by someone who is contracted with this.
[01:16:40.480 --> 01:16:44.480]  Well, a corporate-owned commercial property.
[01:16:44.480 --> 01:16:46.480]  A commercial property in and of itself.
[01:16:46.480 --> 01:16:49.480]  If it's privately owned by an unincorporated individual,
[01:16:49.480 --> 01:16:52.480]  I'd say they're running into the same problem.
[01:16:52.480 --> 01:16:55.480]  Well, I know they're participating in commerce.
[01:16:55.480 --> 01:17:00.480]  We've got to go to break. We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:19:30.480 --> 01:19:32.480]  Okay, we're back.
[01:19:32.480 --> 01:19:34.480]  Steve is very quick. We're up on the radio.
[01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:36.480]  That nice quick kind of snuck up on us.
[01:19:36.480 --> 01:19:38.480]  We were having way too much fun.
[01:19:38.480 --> 01:19:42.480]  Now we're going to go to Steve in New York.
[01:19:42.480 --> 01:19:46.480]  Steve, are you going to stomp the chomp for us?
[01:19:46.480 --> 01:19:48.480]  Well, we'll try, Randy.
[01:19:48.480 --> 01:19:51.480]  Okay.
[01:19:51.480 --> 01:19:54.480]  Take your best shot.
[01:19:54.480 --> 01:19:58.480]  Alrighty. Well, hello to Eddie and my special friend here,
[01:19:58.480 --> 01:20:02.480]  Tomoto, Steve.
[01:20:02.480 --> 01:20:04.480]  Oh, he's got your number, baby.
[01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:07.480]  He's got my number and my Skype contact.
[01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:13.480]  I'm calling with a banking question and I gave you fair warning.
[01:20:13.480 --> 01:20:14.480]  Okay.
[01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:17.480]  Recall the email.
[01:20:17.480 --> 01:20:24.480]  I haven't had a bank account for a long time after actually reading my customer agreement
[01:20:24.480 --> 01:20:29.480]  and understanding that money in the bank belongs to everybody but me first.
[01:20:29.480 --> 01:20:34.480]  And being bothered by that pesky citizen question at the bottom,
[01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:37.480]  I gave up on banking.
[01:20:37.480 --> 01:20:45.480]  It's become impossible to cash checks and now nobody likes a pay-to-the-order of check.
[01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:50.480]  Do you have any suggestions?
[01:20:50.480 --> 01:20:53.480]  Cash or U.S. postal money order.
[01:20:53.480 --> 01:20:55.480]  That's just what I was going to say.
[01:20:55.480 --> 01:20:56.480]  Money order.
[01:20:56.480 --> 01:21:03.480]  Well, that's nice but most of my customers are not interested in paying me that way.
[01:21:03.480 --> 01:21:09.480]  Well, the deal there is to educate your customers a little bit about the benefit of it.
[01:21:09.480 --> 01:21:16.480]  What you might want to consider doing is, for instance, my customers in my computer business,
[01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:20.480]  I would discount if you wish to pay me in silver.
[01:21:20.480 --> 01:21:30.480]  Pay me in silver rather than FRNs or with a check and I will give you 15% off your bill.
[01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:34.480]  Let me make a suggestion.
[01:21:34.480 --> 01:21:43.480]  Find your local golden silver exchange or golden silver dealer and set up an account with him
[01:21:43.480 --> 01:21:53.480]  and have your clients pay you through him, go to him, purchase silver and drop it in your account.
[01:21:53.480 --> 01:21:58.480]  Well, most of my customers are rather rigid since they're government entities
[01:21:58.480 --> 01:22:01.480]  and there's no negotiation on that part.
[01:22:01.480 --> 01:22:05.480]  My biggest problem, I guess, with banks is, you know, since I'm not a customer,
[01:22:05.480 --> 01:22:09.480]  I get absolutely no standing to do anything unless you have any other ideas.
[01:22:09.480 --> 01:22:15.480]  Well, you can if the check is drawn on that institution and they won't cash it.
[01:22:15.480 --> 01:22:20.480]  Okay, let me offer a piece of safe advice.
[01:22:20.480 --> 01:22:29.480]  If you have a shotgun, don't point it at your foot.
[01:22:29.480 --> 01:22:31.480]  You see my point.
[01:22:31.480 --> 01:22:40.480]  If you're working for the government, why would you shoot yourself in the foot this way?
[01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:46.480]  Well, unfortunately, most of my customers have disappeared except for government.
[01:22:46.480 --> 01:22:52.480]  That's what happens. That's what I mean. You shot yourself in the foot.
[01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:57.480]  It's probably a bit higher.
[01:22:57.480 --> 01:23:02.480]  Okay, I would wonder why, you know, if you're working for government entities,
[01:23:02.480 --> 01:23:09.480]  then it's appropriate to deal in their medium of transfer.
[01:23:09.480 --> 01:23:16.480]  You can always take those green dollars and immediately turn them into something else.
[01:23:16.480 --> 01:23:23.480]  Gold, silver, platinum, palladium, coffee cups, something hard, anything you want to.
[01:23:23.480 --> 01:23:27.480]  But if you're dealing with the government entity, I don't understand
[01:23:27.480 --> 01:23:33.480]  why you would object to dealing in the medium that's specifically for them.
[01:23:33.480 --> 01:23:38.480]  Well, the other issue here, though, before you can make that determination either,
[01:23:38.480 --> 01:23:41.480]  is are you an incorporated business?
[01:23:41.480 --> 01:23:43.480]  Absolutely not.
[01:23:43.480 --> 01:23:45.480]  Okay, because I was going to say, if you're incorporated,
[01:23:45.480 --> 01:23:50.480]  you cannot just take those paid assets and convert them into anything.
[01:23:50.480 --> 01:23:55.480]  As a corporation, there are certain specific rules that have to be followed
[01:23:55.480 --> 01:24:00.480]  on all property related to that, including the finances of the corporation.
[01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:06.480]  Just because you're the sole owner and officer of a corporation does not give you the power
[01:24:06.480 --> 01:24:13.480]  to alter or dispose of corporate assets any way you see fit.
[01:24:13.480 --> 01:24:16.480]  That's one of the problems with corporations.
[01:24:16.480 --> 01:24:23.480]  They don't really own what's in the corporation without a whole lot of legal paperwork behind it
[01:24:23.480 --> 01:24:29.480]  to dissolve the corporation and put the ownership of its property into private hands.
[01:24:29.480 --> 01:24:34.480]  So for those of you listening, don't assume that this would work for you that way
[01:24:34.480 --> 01:24:36.480]  if you're incorporated because it won't.
[01:24:36.480 --> 01:24:39.480]  It will, in fact, work against you.
[01:24:39.480 --> 01:24:40.480]  But Randy's right.
[01:24:40.480 --> 01:24:45.480]  If you're not incorporated, you can always take what's in that bank account,
[01:24:45.480 --> 01:24:48.480]  draw it and convert it to something else.
[01:24:48.480 --> 01:24:50.480]  No, no, wait a minute.
[01:24:50.480 --> 01:24:58.480]  Even if you're a corporation, you're assuming that if you're a corporation and you're the CEO,
[01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:08.480]  that somehow the board of directors, if you have one and everybody else is going to absolutely refuse
[01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:16.480]  to convert your assets, your investment assets to...
[01:25:16.480 --> 01:25:22.480]  What I'm saying is you cannot unilaterally make that decision on behalf of the corporation.
[01:25:22.480 --> 01:25:28.480]  The corporation has a corporate structure and there are rules that must function within it.
[01:25:28.480 --> 01:25:30.480]  There are not inherent rules.
[01:25:30.480 --> 01:25:31.480]  There are rules that you make.
[01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:38.480]  If I'm the CEO and I own 51% of the business, it goes by the golden rule and I got the golden.
[01:25:38.480 --> 01:25:40.480]  I make the rules.
[01:25:40.480 --> 01:25:48.480]  But the company still owns the property, which means the others have an interest in the ownership of the property.
[01:25:48.480 --> 01:25:56.480]  I'm telling you, Randy, I have a friend of mine and I went through this on the statute piece by piece
[01:25:56.480 --> 01:26:00.480]  because he had a corporation he wanted to dissolve.
[01:26:00.480 --> 01:26:04.480]  He could not just end it and take possession of the property.
[01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:09.480]  They would have gotten him for embezzlement of corporate funds and property if it had done that.
[01:26:09.480 --> 01:26:12.480]  That goes to another issue.
[01:26:12.480 --> 01:26:15.480]  No, it goes to the issue I'm talking about.
[01:26:15.480 --> 01:26:17.480]  I don't know where you're going, but that's where I'm going.
[01:26:17.480 --> 01:26:22.480]  You're saying that you are bound up and you can't run your company the way you want to.
[01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:24.480]  I didn't say anything about running.
[01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:25.480]  What are you talking about?
[01:26:25.480 --> 01:26:29.480]  I said taking possession of the property in it, including the money.
[01:26:29.480 --> 01:26:31.480]  What are you talking about?
[01:26:31.480 --> 01:26:37.480]  You're saying that the corporation can't turn its money into anything.
[01:26:37.480 --> 01:26:42.480]  The corporation can do anything, but you are just an officer of it.
[01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:44.480]  You are not the corporation.
[01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:53.480]  If I take the corporation's money and put it in your pocket, that's embezzlement.
[01:26:53.480 --> 01:26:59.480]  Not if I own it.
[01:26:59.480 --> 01:27:05.480]  I would highly recommend you search that little bit better because that's not the case.
[01:27:05.480 --> 01:27:08.480]  This is I don't understand.
[01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:15.480]  You said that corporate laws take your control of your business away from you.
[01:27:15.480 --> 01:27:20.480]  When you put it in the name of the corporation, absolutely.
[01:27:20.480 --> 01:27:26.480]  If I own the corporation, I can't put assets in and take assets out.
[01:27:26.480 --> 01:27:29.480]  Just because you own it, for instance, a board of directors.
[01:27:29.480 --> 01:27:38.480]  You're saying that there are some other contingencies that can possibly be there that would prevent you from doing that.
[01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:45.480]  Are you saying that inherently it's not legal for you to take assets out of a corporation?
[01:27:45.480 --> 01:27:54.480]  You cannot take them out except through the appropriate means established by law, such as your paycheck, for instance.
[01:27:54.480 --> 01:28:02.480]  You can take money out in the form of a paycheck, but you can't just seize all the money out of the corporate bank account
[01:28:02.480 --> 01:28:07.480]  and use it for a trip to Cancun for private purposes.
[01:28:07.480 --> 01:28:15.480]  Okay, you're assuming a whole lot, and that wasn't where I was going at all.
[01:28:15.480 --> 01:28:17.480]  I don't think I assumed anything.
[01:28:17.480 --> 01:28:23.480]  I just commented on the ability to access the corporate property, including finance.
[01:28:23.480 --> 01:28:28.480]  I am not talking about taking money out of a corporation.
[01:28:28.480 --> 01:28:30.480]  I'm not talking about stealing from the corporation.
[01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:38.480]  I'm talking about how the corporation holds its assets.
[01:28:38.480 --> 01:28:47.480]  They can hold it in gold, silver, coffee cups, peanut butter, whatever the heck they want to.
[01:28:47.480 --> 01:28:51.480]  That's all I was talking about.
[01:28:51.480 --> 01:29:00.480]  If you don't want to deal in dollars, change it into something else. That's not taking it out of the corporation.
[01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:04.480]  That's just holding it in another medium.
[01:29:04.480 --> 01:29:17.480]  And we're at a position now to where green dollars is not a very good medium in which to hold your value because it's not going to be stable here pretty soon.
[01:29:17.480 --> 01:29:19.480]  It's not stable now.
[01:29:19.480 --> 01:29:29.480]  If you look at gas and meal prices, a year and a half ago, I could get a meal pretty regular for about five bucks.
[01:29:29.480 --> 01:29:32.480]  Now it's pushing closer to ten.
[01:29:32.480 --> 01:29:37.480]  It calls that inflation big time, and it's going to get a lot worse.
[01:29:37.480 --> 01:29:46.480]  So if I could keep my money in a ledger that was backed by based on silk, instead of $3, I'd be a whole lot better off.
[01:29:46.480 --> 01:29:50.480]  This is Randy Kellogg, David Stevens and Craig with my radio.
[01:29:50.480 --> 01:30:00.480]  We'll be right back with Steve on the other side. We'll stop arguing about corporations.
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[01:32:23.480 --> 01:32:27.480]  Steve, where were you?
[01:32:27.480 --> 01:32:31.480]  I'm in the mouth here.
[01:32:31.480 --> 01:32:35.480]  I'm not incorporated.
[01:32:35.480 --> 01:32:39.480]  I think I'm in the right direction.
[01:32:39.480 --> 01:32:43.480]  I'm in the right direction.
[01:32:43.480 --> 01:32:47.480]  I'm in the right direction.
[01:32:47.480 --> 01:32:56.480]  I'm not incorporated. I've done business this day, DBA, just for that reason.
[01:32:56.480 --> 01:33:03.480]  And Eddie was just about to get on this issue where I have a government check, which supposedly is good,
[01:33:03.480 --> 01:33:07.480]  and it's tendered at the bank it's drawn on.
[01:33:07.480 --> 01:33:14.480]  But since I'm not a customer of the bank, you know, I don't see that I have any standing to do anything.
[01:33:14.480 --> 01:33:17.480]  They'll just refuse to cash it.
[01:33:17.480 --> 01:33:27.480]  They can't. If it's drawn on that institution, they're obligated to cash it as long as there are funds available.
[01:33:27.480 --> 01:33:35.480]  That's the entire set of rules governing the allowance for institutions to issue things such as checks,
[01:33:35.480 --> 01:33:46.480]  because they absolutely must honor them on presentment as long as the person doing the presented is the payee named
[01:33:46.480 --> 01:33:51.480]  and there is sufficient funds to cover the amount allotted.
[01:33:51.480 --> 01:33:55.480]  I have a suggestion. If you have any problem with that,
[01:33:55.480 --> 01:34:05.480]  you take that check to the prosecuting attorney and call it a bad check and ask the prosecuting attorney to arrest
[01:34:05.480 --> 01:34:08.480]  whoever issued the check for fraud.
[01:34:08.480 --> 01:34:11.480]  Oh, I've done that before right at the counter, actually, Randy.
[01:34:11.480 --> 01:34:21.480]  I called 911 and told the manager that it's obviously this is a bad check and I'm going to have to seek other avenues.
[01:34:21.480 --> 01:34:26.480]  But, of course, I can't do that with the governmental entity.
[01:34:26.480 --> 01:34:29.480]  Of course you can.
[01:34:29.480 --> 01:34:32.480]  I'm not in work there anymore.
[01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:40.480]  Well, if it's one of your customers, you probably don't want to do that to your customer, then just send a tort letter to the bank.
[01:34:40.480 --> 01:34:47.480]  Look on Aussielaw.net and pull down that billing notice.
[01:34:47.480 --> 01:34:50.480]  You might adjust the billing notice.
[01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:54.480]  You have a site draft that checks the site draft.
[01:34:54.480 --> 01:35:09.480]  Someone gave it to you and promised you that if you take this to a lending it to a bank, the bank will trade this for value.
[01:35:09.480 --> 01:35:13.480]  So that's a contract.
[01:35:13.480 --> 01:35:21.480]  You're under contract with these people and the bank interfered with your contract and they cost you your time.
[01:35:21.480 --> 01:35:26.480]  And you had stuff to do with that money and weren't able to do it with that money.
[01:35:26.480 --> 01:35:29.480]  So that cost you. Send them a tort letter.
[01:35:29.480 --> 01:35:31.480]  Okay, that's a good idea.
[01:35:31.480 --> 01:35:36.480]  I've been at this point with many of their operations departments before.
[01:35:36.480 --> 01:35:43.480]  I had suggested that you are the sovereign. Sovereigns don't deal with flunkies.
[01:35:43.480 --> 01:35:47.480]  Sovereigns deal with CEOs and presidents.
[01:35:47.480 --> 01:35:49.480]  Let me offer a suggestion.
[01:35:49.480 --> 01:35:56.480]  Call down to the bank and ask, who is the CEO of the bank?
[01:35:56.480 --> 01:35:58.480]  What is his name?
[01:35:58.480 --> 01:36:06.480]  Basically, why do you need that? Well, one of my kids is doing a reporting school on the banking industry.
[01:36:06.480 --> 01:36:11.480]  And he was trying to get the names of the CEOs of several of the local banks.
[01:36:11.480 --> 01:36:14.480]  Give him a line of crap, Ola.
[01:36:14.480 --> 01:36:20.480]  And once you get that, either the president and generally the hundred presidents were banks.
[01:36:20.480 --> 01:36:23.480]  So you want a CEO or someone about the president.
[01:36:23.480 --> 01:36:29.480]  And then you call down and ask for that person's secretary.
[01:36:29.480 --> 01:36:37.480]  The CEO secretary is probably the most powerful individual in any organization.
[01:36:37.480 --> 01:36:50.480]  The CEO tends to have to be somewhat diplomatic and has to exercise caution so that he doesn't interfere with the authority of the people he's delegated powers to.
[01:36:50.480 --> 01:36:52.480]  So he's going to be careful.
[01:36:52.480 --> 01:36:55.480]  His secretary doesn't.
[01:36:55.480 --> 01:36:59.480]  You call down and call down her throat.
[01:36:59.480 --> 01:37:05.480]  And she will call down everybody's throat.
[01:37:05.480 --> 01:37:11.480]  I have found that to be extremely effective.
[01:37:11.480 --> 01:37:15.480]  Well, we're going to go with the tort letter idea.
[01:37:15.480 --> 01:37:18.480]  Tort letter tends to get their attention.
[01:37:18.480 --> 01:37:21.480]  Okay, we need to move on. We're running out of time.
[01:37:21.480 --> 01:37:25.480]  Do you have any more questions or issues for us?
[01:37:25.480 --> 01:37:28.480]  I think I'll just go and get a fresh beer.
[01:37:28.480 --> 01:37:34.480]  Okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay, we're going to go to David in Illinois.
[01:37:34.480 --> 01:37:37.480]  David.
[01:37:37.480 --> 01:37:44.480]  I've got a court case for you, Randy, regarding particularly the mortgage things.
[01:37:44.480 --> 01:37:48.480]  I don't know if it's something you've ever been given or not.
[01:37:48.480 --> 01:38:00.480]  It's an old case in Minnesota in 1969, back when Nixon decided to drop the Silver Standard.
[01:38:00.480 --> 01:38:04.480]  And I'll email it to you as well.
[01:38:04.480 --> 01:38:09.480]  Whoever did this research, they went through and grabbed every single court document.
[01:38:09.480 --> 01:38:19.480]  So when I'm going to email this PDF to you, everything's in here, but let me just give you an idea, run down what this is.
[01:38:19.480 --> 01:38:27.480]  It's state of Minnesota, county of Scott, plaintiff of his first national bank in Montgomery, defendant of Jerome Daly.
[01:38:27.480 --> 01:38:29.480]  Have you ever heard of this case before?
[01:38:29.480 --> 01:38:31.480]  It's the credit river case.
[01:38:31.480 --> 01:38:41.480]  No. What is it, Dave? So it's the credit, yes, the credit river case. It wasn't, yeah. Yes, that's right, it's the credit river case.
[01:38:41.480 --> 01:38:44.480]  Go ahead.
[01:38:44.480 --> 01:38:49.480]  So from the standpoint of that, that you have heard of it, how much do you know of it?
[01:38:49.480 --> 01:39:09.480]  I mean, from the standpoint that it goes to contract law and constitution based on consideration, I find it interesting that more of us do not take that avenue,
[01:39:09.480 --> 01:39:17.480]  because that, as far as I'm concerned, the center of what we're fighting against.
[01:39:17.480 --> 01:39:19.480]  I'm not sure where you're going.
[01:39:19.480 --> 01:39:23.480]  Consideration goes to conscientability.
[01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:25.480]  I'm not sure where you're going.
[01:39:25.480 --> 01:39:31.480]  I know of the credit river case. I don't know what it's about. Steve, do you know what it's about?
[01:39:31.480 --> 01:39:33.480]  I know the outcome of the case.
[01:39:33.480 --> 01:39:45.480]  If I'm thinking of the correct case, the justice that sat on the case, I believe that was Marvin Mahoney.
[01:39:45.480 --> 01:39:47.480]  Yep, exactly.
[01:39:47.480 --> 01:39:59.480]  Mahoney came to the distinction or to the discovery that he was speaking to the funny money system, the fractional reserve system,
[01:39:59.480 --> 01:40:03.480]  and where he said, God can create something out of nothing.
[01:40:03.480 --> 01:40:09.480]  I've also heard that this case is an urban legend, or the outcome of the case was urban legend.
[01:40:09.480 --> 01:40:13.480]  No, it's not. It's not urban legend. It's a KP card.
[01:40:13.480 --> 01:40:15.480]  Yeah.
[01:40:15.480 --> 01:40:23.480]  But Mahoney decided that only God could create something out of nothing, so there was no alleged debt,
[01:40:23.480 --> 01:40:29.480]  since the bank had absolutely no tangible asset from their own holdings on the table.
[01:40:29.480 --> 01:40:31.480]  Yeah, but he said KP card.
[01:40:31.480 --> 01:40:33.480]  Right.
[01:40:33.480 --> 01:40:37.480]  This case means absolutely nothing.
[01:40:37.480 --> 01:40:43.480]  It's not anything you can use for case law or anything like that.
[01:40:43.480 --> 01:40:47.480]  KP is not necessarily inferior court.
[01:40:47.480 --> 01:40:55.480]  But from the standpoint of the fact that federal reserve notes have no consideration.
[01:40:55.480 --> 01:40:57.480]  That's nonsense, of course.
[01:40:57.480 --> 01:41:03.480]  They're debt instruments given value upon acceptance.
[01:41:03.480 --> 01:41:06.480]  If you accept it for value, it has that value.
[01:41:06.480 --> 01:41:08.480]  Here's the problem with that argument.
[01:41:08.480 --> 01:41:10.480]  They say there's no money.
[01:41:10.480 --> 01:41:13.480]  Who cares? This is not about money.
[01:41:13.480 --> 01:41:15.480]  This is about offering acceptance.
[01:41:15.480 --> 01:41:16.480]  Exactly.
[01:41:16.480 --> 01:41:26.480]  The lender came to the buyer and offered to trade the buyer warranty deed for promissory note.
[01:41:26.480 --> 01:41:30.480]  Lender and buyer came to a meeting of minds.
[01:41:30.480 --> 01:41:37.480]  Lender gave buyer warranty deed, buyer gave lender promissory note.
[01:41:37.480 --> 01:41:40.480]  That's a contract.
[01:41:40.480 --> 01:41:43.480]  Money doesn't have anything to do with it.
[01:41:43.480 --> 01:41:46.480]  Offer acceptance and consideration.
[01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:48.480]  Well, yeah, I'm saying it does not.
[01:41:48.480 --> 01:41:52.480]  Consideration and contract will mean something about you.
[01:41:52.480 --> 01:41:53.480]  No.
[01:41:53.480 --> 01:41:55.480]  No, it doesn't.
[01:41:55.480 --> 01:41:57.480]  Absolutely not.
[01:41:57.480 --> 01:42:02.480]  I can trade my house for hairballs if I want to.
[01:42:02.480 --> 01:42:05.480]  Well, hairballs have consideration.
[01:42:05.480 --> 01:42:11.480]  Offer an acceptance, all it goes through is something that value is not relevant.
[01:42:11.480 --> 01:42:15.480]  They are a factual physical something.
[01:42:15.480 --> 01:42:18.480]  This reminds me of another case out there.
[01:42:18.480 --> 01:42:20.480]  I don't know if this would be an actual case.
[01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:24.480]  This is, again, kind of a rumor type of case.
[01:42:24.480 --> 01:42:28.480]  But there's a guy out there allegedly named Coffee Bean Jean.
[01:42:28.480 --> 01:42:36.480]  He lost his backside on fighting a traffic issue and he asked the judge, okay, is this fine?
[01:42:36.480 --> 01:42:37.480]  Is this a debt?
[01:42:37.480 --> 01:42:38.480]  The judge said, yes.
[01:42:38.480 --> 01:42:46.480]  He said, well, can I discharge his obligation with an obligation?
[01:42:46.480 --> 01:42:48.480]  The judge said, no.
[01:42:48.480 --> 01:42:52.480]  Well, is not the Federal Reserve not an obligation of the American people?
[01:42:52.480 --> 01:42:54.480]  Yes.
[01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:55.480]  Oh, okay.
[01:42:55.480 --> 01:43:00.480]  Well, in what species, Your Honor, would you have me discharge this obligation?
[01:43:00.480 --> 01:43:05.480]  The judge allegedly said, I don't care if you do it in coffee beans.
[01:43:05.480 --> 01:43:15.480]  At that point, the judge would have equated the coffee beans as having something of value in contrast to the valueless Federal Reserve note, which is an obligation.
[01:43:15.480 --> 01:43:22.480]  Now, whether that case is valid or not, the point is valid.
[01:43:22.480 --> 01:43:23.480]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:43:23.480 --> 01:43:25.480]  And that's all I was trying to get at.
[01:43:25.480 --> 01:43:33.480]  And that was kind of my whole issue, was to give it the core of what we're fighting against.
[01:43:33.480 --> 01:43:39.480]  But if you accept that dollar bill for value, you've received consideration.
[01:43:39.480 --> 01:43:41.480]  You've got a contract.
[01:43:41.480 --> 01:43:45.480]  Exactly, and that's why it's the issue, right?
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[01:46:30.480 --> 01:46:59.280]  I think I finally understood where you were going except the screen dollar thing has no
[01:46:59.280 --> 01:47:05.600]  intrinsic value. Yeah, it was exactly the same thing that we were talking about the way at the
[01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:17.400]  end when we were talking when you had your my the guest my name at the moment what's the name
[01:47:17.400 --> 01:47:24.480]  of your lawyer friend the gentleman you've had on many times Harman Taylor yeah yeah Harman when
[01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:31.240]  he was talking about your your your decision of law is based on your funny money you know
[01:47:31.240 --> 01:47:34.760]  or when you get a when you get away from that that's your decision of law which which you
[01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:40.320]  guys also leveraged on our choice of law yeah choice of law which is what exactly what what
[01:47:40.320 --> 01:47:46.400]  he was talking about based on based on payment you know whether whether you you're a private
[01:47:46.400 --> 01:47:54.560]  investigator and being paid to go investigate something or whether you're just going to do
[01:47:54.560 --> 01:48:00.200]  this investigation out of your own free will and your own want to do so to help another
[01:48:00.200 --> 01:48:05.080]  individual or to help another one of the people and you're not being paid to do so well then
[01:48:05.080 --> 01:48:09.480]  there's nothing that they can possibly do to stop you and there's no need to license to do so
[01:48:09.480 --> 01:48:14.680]  because you're doing it if you like to exactly you're not in commerce yeah precisely yeah right
[01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:19.640]  and they go yeah that all goes to commerce yeah precisely and then yeah you're exactly right
[01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:30.280]  that was precisely where I was going and that that to me is is the issue about being one of the
[01:48:30.280 --> 01:48:35.600]  people and deciding to be you know regulated or deciding to regulate you know regulate yourself
[01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:40.880]  or to govern you can govern oneself in a republic okay and that that is an important
[01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:45.440]  issue this it's something important here to understand we had these people trying to get
[01:48:45.440 --> 01:48:53.880]  rid of their straw man and I never liked the straw man metaphor when I was in Pennsylvania
[01:48:53.880 --> 01:49:01.680]  with the Amish and the Mennonites and those folks there talked about it different we talked
[01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:09.320]  about being in the public and being in the private and these were people who truly understood
[01:49:09.320 --> 01:49:15.800]  that part in a way that we don't I think that I think the Indian nations do as well after yes
[01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:25.400]  they do the just constant well the that they've taken over the year the Amish particular and not
[01:49:25.400 --> 01:49:30.760]  so much the Blackbubber Mennonites but the full Mennonites they understand this because they
[01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:38.560]  have this private side to them to be extremely private I could go there and they would speak
[01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:48.000]  politely to me but they kept me at a very large distance sure yeah because they they live their
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:53.920]  life in the private and sometimes they would come out of the private into the public and they
[01:49:53.920 --> 01:50:03.240]  it was only relatively recently that they began doing commerce with the public in general seven
[01:50:03.240 --> 01:50:09.960]  stores yep yep right wait a minute I can't hear you talking when I'm talking about this system
[01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:18.160]  suppresses you sorry okay when they come out of their private life into the public they very
[01:50:18.160 --> 01:50:24.240]  clearly understand the difference and that's a much better metaphor when I'm dealing in the
[01:50:24.240 --> 01:50:31.960]  public for instance when I write this note on my property I'm in the public I'm in my straw man
[01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:42.120]  so I have chosen I've made my choice of law of where I'm at and what I'm doing and I don't
[01:50:42.120 --> 01:50:46.720]  want to get rid of that part I don't want to eliminate the ability to be in the public and
[01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:54.440]  there's nothing wrong with being in the private public in the public I want to be able to operate
[01:50:54.440 --> 01:50:59.320]  in the public and in the private they just understand the difference in the two and in
[01:50:59.320 --> 01:51:06.040]  this case this is all in public and it's not about money it's not about it's only about
[01:51:06.040 --> 01:51:11.360]  offering acceptance and Stephen I was talking about that on the break the green dollars have no
[01:51:11.360 --> 01:51:24.000]  value other than offering acceptance if I accept green dollars in exchange for an offer I have
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:31.560]  given them value and they have whatever value I chose to give them and whether somebody thinks
[01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:39.000]  they have an intrinsic value in the art is not relevant I could enter into a contract based on
[01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:49.920]  good faith and I could agree to take some action or perform some service based on good faith for
[01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:56.360]  return and that would make a valid contract even though good faith is not tangible and has no
[01:51:56.360 --> 01:52:04.080]  intrinsic value it only has values the other in response with good faith I hope that makes
[01:52:04.080 --> 01:52:09.640]  sense as long as the other party was also giving you something of good faith on the other side
[01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:16.400]  yeah yeah so I guess there is agreement and acceptance and what Deborah mentioned on the
[01:52:16.400 --> 01:52:27.880]  break it's not acceptance if it's by lack of full disclosure or by coercion then even though it
[01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:32.840]  appears to be offering acceptance if there are mitigating factors of that nature it's still
[01:52:32.840 --> 01:52:38.720]  not a contract right yeah and that's that's something that I always remember and make sure
[01:52:38.720 --> 01:52:44.400]  that I tell individuals that come and ask me questions that they look if you did not have
[01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:50.120]  full disclosure and they come back and they say something well you know this is something that
[01:52:50.120 --> 01:52:55.760]  was in there and you said well that was never disclosed to me or that was not something that
[01:52:55.760 --> 01:53:05.200]  I stood under during the time when I signed it then that's not valid it's just not the way
[01:53:05.200 --> 01:53:12.120]  contracts work right exactly yeah and contract law has been well adjudicated oh yeah hundreds of
[01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:17.760]  years hundreds and hundreds of years yeah so it's fair it's it's well structured we just need to
[01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:23.640]  understand how it works I would like to I would like to add something else too have you guys ever
[01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:47.960]  seen the court case Marin and Bailey's versus Apache tribe where it talks about it is one thing
[01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:52.680]  to find that the tribe has agreed to sell the rights to use the land and take value of minerals
[01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:59.920]  from it common and quite another to find that the tribe has abandoned its sovereign powers simply
[01:53:59.920 --> 01:54:07.720]  because it has not expressly reserved them through a contract period to presume that a sovereign
[01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:15.600]  forever waives the right to exercise one of its powers unless it expressly reserves them sorry
[01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:22.000]  unless it expressly reserves the right to exercise that power in a commercial agreement turns the
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:31.320]  concept of sovereignty on its head now that's the Supreme Court that is interesting considering
[01:54:31.320 --> 01:54:36.120]  this is the same Supreme Court that tells us that if we don't actively reserve our rights we
[01:54:36.120 --> 01:54:44.440]  waive them yeah yeah precisely yeah and see this is this is the this is the hallmark case that I
[01:54:44.440 --> 01:54:51.520]  always go back to that I put in all my paperwork I say look regardless if I sign a contract I don't
[01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:57.400]  waive my sovereignty it's impossible for me to waive my sovereignty and I always put this case
[01:54:57.400 --> 01:55:03.160]  in my paperwork and then they come back and make it's like just dead silence they have nothing to
[01:55:03.160 --> 01:55:09.600]  say about it because you send me that case I will absolutely send you this case brother because
[01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:14.360]  it's important I think that every single individual should put in every single document that they put
[01:55:14.360 --> 01:55:21.960]  into everything whether it be traffic to whatever to whatever okay we okay I need to move along
[01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:26.960]  we've got Carlos on the side send that to me I will have a lot of fun with that one yes we've
[01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:35.920]  only got three minutes left I don't mean to give you the bum to rush okay thank you David yep okay
[01:55:35.920 --> 01:55:44.800]  we're going to Carlos and I know Carlos is gonna stop to jump you there Carlos to be put you to
[01:55:44.800 --> 01:55:53.680]  sleep hey man there you go am I on you are on thank you thank you okay I got a question for the
[01:55:53.680 --> 01:56:01.840]  gentleman okay in California the only way one of the only ways that you can overturn a foreclosure
[01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:11.440]  or render it void that is if you can prove when they do the assignment to the trustee for them
[01:56:11.440 --> 01:56:16.640]  to sell the property they have to do an assignment therefore the trustee has interest in that property
[01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:25.200]  now and then having a pellet court decision that says if the homeowner could prove that Cal
[01:56:25.200 --> 01:56:32.400]  Westerie conveyance in this case had no assignment and that property that's that foreclosure is void
[01:56:32.400 --> 01:56:39.400]  now let's go back to my property when they beat the assignment or trustee I confer with the with
[01:56:39.400 --> 01:56:45.960]  the attorney he says Carlos Mr. Aguirre said forget about the note there's the judge that
[01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:51.320]  gonna pay attention I don't care about the note but I do care is that there's no assignment from
[01:56:51.320 --> 01:56:57.320]  that of the dealer trust there's no assignment and so therefore we have a federally defective
[01:56:57.320 --> 01:57:04.720]  sufficient trustee and have a case to back me up now I asked her and I'll make it real quick
[01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:09.080]  because I know we're running out of time when they do the sufficient trustee the person who
[01:57:09.080 --> 01:57:16.040]  signed the notary ledger right I got a copy of that they signed the ledger when they did the
[01:57:16.040 --> 01:57:24.120]  notice simplification and they did not put a fingerprint a thumbprint under why give me to
[01:57:24.120 --> 01:57:30.200]  you why because that person was not the person who signed that dealer trust will probably sign
[01:57:30.200 --> 01:57:36.360]  that dealer trust so therefore that's been there or can you tell me otherwise this is is a thumb
[01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:46.520]  print print a statutory requirement in California I'm sorry it is a thumb print on a notary ledger
[01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:54.480]  a statutory requirement any document that percents the real estate it is and there was no
[01:57:54.480 --> 01:58:05.040]  thumb print in the document is insufficient on its face that should get you a hearing to strike
[01:58:05.040 --> 01:58:11.880]  the document as invalid and ask the court to render them to correct the court record okay
[01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:20.920]  that should be easier to do than win the case directly once you've got that done then you
[01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:26.000]  can go back and challenge Steve right for closing thank you what if it's if it's an
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  assignment of only the deed of trust I had encouraged you to go read carpenter v. Longan
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:37.200]  carpenter v. Longan it speaks to bifurcation it's a separation of the note from the deed of trust
[01:58:37.200 --> 01:58:48.280]  okay thank you yeah and also look at landlockly case yes right right okay guys thank you for
[01:58:48.280 --> 01:58:54.160]  listening it's been a day here a long time with us we appreciate you this is Randy
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