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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.880]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.880 --> 00:10.800]  Clash's rage in Cairo Friday after a bloodied protestor said he'd been arrested and beaten
[00:10.800 --> 00:14.080]  up by soldiers near Tahir Square.
[00:14.080 --> 00:19.440]  Activists occupying an area in front of the cabinet office began throwing stones at soldiers.
[00:19.440 --> 00:24.560]  Troops responded by firing shots in the air and using water cannons before throwing stones
[00:24.560 --> 00:30.720]  back at demonstrators from the roof of the nearby parliament building.
[00:30.720 --> 00:36.120]  Pakistani-American businessman Mansour Ijaz told the UK Independent Thursday Pakistan's
[00:36.120 --> 00:42.520]  ISI spy chief Lieutenant General Ahmad Suja Pasha visited Arab countries for discussions
[00:42.520 --> 00:45.520]  on a possible coup by the Pakistan Army.
[00:45.520 --> 00:50.840]  Ijaz had claimed earlier the S-wing of the ISI was not under the control of the Pakistan
[00:50.840 --> 00:55.840]  government and that the army used it to influence the Afghanistan government through the terrorist
[00:55.840 --> 00:58.840]  Haqqani network.
[00:58.840 --> 01:03.800]  An independent commission in the Netherlands charged Friday 10,000 to 20,000 children were
[01:03.800 --> 01:09.800]  sexually abused in Catholic institutions and church officials failed to adequately address
[01:09.800 --> 01:12.320]  the abuse or help the victims.
[01:12.320 --> 01:17.320]  The commission said Catholic officials failed to tackle the widespread abuse, quote, to
[01:17.320 --> 01:18.840]  prevent scandals.
[01:18.840 --> 01:24.400]  It estimated that one in 10 Catholic children suffered some form of abuse, including rape
[01:24.400 --> 01:27.520]  since 1945.
[01:27.520 --> 01:32.600]  Bloomberg News reported Thursday lingerie maker Victoria Secret uses cotton picked by
[01:32.600 --> 01:35.720]  child laborers in Burkina Faso.
[01:35.720 --> 01:40.120]  Children as young as 10 are made to work cotton fields in the West African country under a
[01:40.120 --> 01:43.280]  supposedly fair trade organic cotton program.
[01:43.280 --> 01:48.160]  The child-picked cotton ends up in the supply chain running through India and Sri Lanka and
[01:48.160 --> 01:51.120]  ultimately to Victoria's Secret in the US.
[01:51.120 --> 01:56.000]  Clarice Cambiri, a 13-year-old girl, told Bloomberg she was pulled out of school by an
[01:56.000 --> 01:58.520]  older cousin to work the fields.
[01:58.520 --> 02:03.120]  She picks cotton and carries manure buckets from dawn till dusk under the constant threat
[02:03.120 --> 02:04.120]  of violence.
[02:04.120 --> 02:08.400]  However, the fair trade system is built on the notion that purchases by companies and
[02:08.400 --> 02:13.680]  consumers won't make them accomplices to exploitation, especially of children.
[02:13.680 --> 02:22.600]  The global fair trade market grew 27% in just one year to more than $5.8 billion in 2010.
[02:22.600 --> 02:28.960]  The US Conference of Mayors 2011 Hunger and Homelessness Survey released Thursday finds
[02:28.960 --> 02:33.640]  a growing number of US families are struggling to put food on the table.
[02:33.640 --> 02:39.440]  All but four of the 29 cities surveyed reported increased requests for emergency food assistance
[02:39.440 --> 02:43.520]  between September 2010 and August 2011.
[02:43.520 --> 02:50.880]  Half were people and families, 26% were employed, 19% were elderly, and 11% were homeless.
[02:50.880 --> 02:55.520]  27% of those looking for food assistance did not receive it.
[02:55.520 --> 03:00.120]  According to government data, a record 49 million Americans were living in poverty in
[03:00.120 --> 03:07.840]  2010 and the number of households, depending on food stamps, soared 16% to 13.6 million.
[03:07.840 --> 03:14.840]  For more details on this story, visit INNworld.net.
[04:37.840 --> 04:45.080]  All right folks, good evening, this is rule of law radio, this is our Friday 4 hour marathon.
[04:45.080 --> 04:50.040]  I want to say hello to all the listeners out there, thank you for tuning in.
[04:50.040 --> 04:53.480]  We are having a little bit of technical difficulty right now, we're trying to get Randy joined
[04:53.480 --> 04:55.480]  up with us.
[04:55.480 --> 05:01.400]  Right now, I would like to just begin by saying again, thank you all for listening.
[05:01.400 --> 05:04.840]  Right now I've been reading some things today along with several other things that we've
[05:04.840 --> 05:09.880]  got going on here of course, dealing with traffic and all that, but it would appear
[05:09.880 --> 05:16.240]  like we have incidents going on even here in Texas right now where the FDA is still
[05:16.240 --> 05:20.120]  trying to get its hands on raw dairy farmers.
[05:20.120 --> 05:24.480]  I was just reading another email that someone had sent me regarding that subject matter
[05:24.480 --> 05:30.400]  here just a few minutes ago, and now it would appear that the CDC is also getting prepared
[05:30.400 --> 05:38.400]  to issue a disease outbreak warning in animals because there is some plan to have the military
[05:38.400 --> 05:47.320]  go out and destroy these alleged diseased animals, and the plan would appear to be to
[05:47.320 --> 05:53.320]  replace them with genetically modified genetically engineered breeds of animals so that pretty
[05:53.320 --> 05:59.040]  much the animal herds can be controlled pretty much the same way that Monsanto is controlling
[05:59.040 --> 06:04.480]  the production of crops through its genetically engineered seedlings when it plants them in
[06:04.480 --> 06:10.000]  farmer or fields near to farmers, and they cross pollinate with the farmers, and the
[06:10.000 --> 06:15.920]  next thing you know, Monsanto is suing the farmer for illegally using Monsanto's genetically
[06:15.920 --> 06:18.520]  modified spores.
[06:18.520 --> 06:25.680]  So the problem here is how do you prevent nature from doing its job as far as the fruits
[06:25.680 --> 06:27.760]  and vegetables go?
[06:27.760 --> 06:31.480]  You plant them out in open air, they're cross pollinated by nature, how can you sue the
[06:31.480 --> 06:36.680]  farmer next door for what nature did would be my question, how the courts could even
[06:36.680 --> 06:44.480]  begin to uphold such a ludicrous lawsuit by Monsanto is beyond me.
[06:44.480 --> 06:50.920]  But the thing we really need to be concerned about here it would seem is this introduction
[06:50.920 --> 06:58.040]  of getting the animals slaughtered so that they can actually get all of this stuff brought
[06:58.040 --> 07:03.400]  in for these, I really don't know what you'd want to call them, genetically modified mutated
[07:03.400 --> 07:11.200]  animals so that Monsanto can also control that.
[07:11.200 --> 07:15.120]  It seems like we may have Randy up on the guest bridge here and let me see if I can
[07:15.120 --> 07:17.120]  get him live here with us.
[07:17.120 --> 07:19.120]  Randy, can you hear me?
[07:19.120 --> 07:21.160]  I can't hear you.
[07:21.160 --> 07:22.160]  All right.
[07:22.160 --> 07:25.360]  Did you have anything specific you wanted to go over tonight?
[07:25.360 --> 07:34.800]  Well, I wanted to talk about grand jury legislation that we're looking at trying to promote for
[07:34.800 --> 07:45.080]  this next legislature and see how much support we can get, how much participation we can
[07:45.080 --> 07:49.440]  get from other people to help push this through.
[07:49.440 --> 08:00.520]  We're hoping that in presenting it to the legislators it's not going to look like something
[08:00.520 --> 08:06.640]  that's very earth-shattering, it's going to look like a minor thing, but in the end it
[08:06.640 --> 08:09.560]  will have a major effect.
[08:09.560 --> 08:13.800]  I didn't want to talk about that stuff.
[08:13.800 --> 08:25.440]  I missed this whole section on Monsanto, are you there?
[08:25.440 --> 08:26.440]  Can you hear me now?
[08:26.440 --> 08:27.440]  Oh, yeah.
[08:27.440 --> 08:28.440]  There you go.
[08:28.440 --> 08:29.440]  Okay.
[08:29.440 --> 08:30.680]  These new forms are so good.
[08:30.680 --> 08:40.400]  Yeah, I was reading an article someone sent me where the CDC is about to declare an animal
[08:40.400 --> 08:46.240]  disease outbreak and how the military slaughter the animal herds that are allegedly infected
[08:46.240 --> 08:52.680]  with this so-called disease, and Monsanto is probably going to come in and substitute
[08:52.680 --> 08:57.640]  these herds with their genetically engineered animals.
[08:57.640 --> 09:00.320]  They're really just wrecking havoc on the food chain.
[09:00.320 --> 09:07.360]  They're trying to make it where they will be able to control the entire food chain.
[09:07.360 --> 09:10.760]  It's completely ridiculous.
[09:10.760 --> 09:16.520]  Well, yeah, I've heard these stories before, and I've heard these stories for a long time,
[09:16.520 --> 09:25.040]  but they haven't come about, and frankly, I get kind of frustrated with these people
[09:25.040 --> 09:31.200]  that run around screaming, this guy is falling, this guy is falling, and then this guy doesn't
[09:31.200 --> 09:33.200]  fall.
[09:33.200 --> 09:38.560]  And they talk about these horrible, horrible, outrageously horrible things that are going
[09:38.560 --> 09:42.080]  to happen, and they don't happen.
[09:42.080 --> 09:50.240]  My concern is, is when the real one comes out, everybody will be doing like I'm doing,
[09:50.240 --> 09:57.360]  saying, you know, we've heard all this before, and nobody will pay attention.
[09:57.360 --> 10:00.600]  What disease are they claiming these animals have?
[10:00.600 --> 10:09.960]  There's only a couple that I can think of that would warrant slaughtering whole herds.
[10:09.960 --> 10:13.760]  It sounds like you're talking about illuminated species.
[10:13.760 --> 10:23.440]  Well, it's some disease allegedly called APHIS.
[10:23.440 --> 10:27.840]  And so, I don't know, I haven't got to read far enough to see what all of that actually
[10:27.840 --> 10:36.880]  deals with, but this alleged disease is not at all fatal or harmful to humans, and it's
[10:36.880 --> 10:42.600]  even less likely to be lethal to animals, or it's very unlikely to be lethal to animals
[10:42.600 --> 10:44.760]  is what this is coming out as.
[10:44.760 --> 10:52.080]  But on your point of crying wolf, the problem is nowadays, is that if we keep waiting for
[10:52.080 --> 10:56.920]  the little things to come along, or the big things to come along, then they keep getting
[10:56.920 --> 10:59.760]  there by small, tiny steps is the only problem.
[10:59.760 --> 11:05.400]  We have stopped quite a few things that they've tried to implement on this cry wolf thing
[11:05.400 --> 11:11.160]  before they were able to implement something big with it.
[11:11.160 --> 11:16.960]  So I wouldn't go so far as to throw a complete blanket approach across that statement because
[11:16.960 --> 11:21.400]  there are times when crying wolf is quite adequate and necessary, even though the wolf
[11:21.400 --> 11:23.120]  hasn't shown his face yet.
[11:23.120 --> 11:29.520]  Well, this thing of sending in the military to wipe out these herds, to me, that's an
[11:29.520 --> 11:39.640]  incredible red flag, unless there's some decisively virulent disease.
[11:39.640 --> 11:48.440]  And unless that disease is going to have a very negative effect on the human population,
[11:48.440 --> 11:55.680]  I can't imagine sending the government sending in the military.
[11:55.680 --> 12:06.040]  Sounds like these stories that people throw around just to get everybody's attention.
[12:06.040 --> 12:11.560]  Reminds me of the Harry Kane incident.
[12:11.560 --> 12:22.960]  Remember when that happened, within four hours, I got an email telling me the whole story,
[12:22.960 --> 12:31.800]  everything that had happened, but you know that within four hours, it had all the detail.
[12:31.800 --> 12:36.920]  Turned out it was all a bunch of hogwash.
[12:36.920 --> 12:46.320]  They just made up this crap and sent it out to everybody, this totally fabricated story
[12:46.320 --> 12:51.600]  and they've got everybody screaming and ranting and railing and jumping up and down and waving
[12:51.600 --> 12:57.920]  their arms, and it was all nonsense.
[12:57.920 --> 13:01.640]  They're real frustrated with that kind of thing.
[13:01.640 --> 13:07.760]  No longer know what sources we can trust.
[13:07.760 --> 13:17.200]  Just source something that we can trust in their, in the veracity of what they're telling
[13:17.200 --> 13:18.200]  them.
[13:18.200 --> 13:21.160]  I've never heard anything about this before.
[13:21.160 --> 13:25.520]  It's not like a story that's been growing and building.
[13:25.520 --> 13:35.040]  I'm looking at USDA, AFIS import exports, but I don't see anything in here indicating
[13:35.040 --> 13:43.600]  there's any kind of a large crisis going on.
[13:43.600 --> 13:48.040]  I don't think AFIS is, I think AFIS is some kind of organization.
[13:48.040 --> 13:52.080]  Anyway, let's go on to something else.
[13:52.080 --> 14:07.000]  Okay, Grand Juris, if there is a key, if there is a magic bullet, it's going to be individual
[14:07.000 --> 14:11.680]  participation in the process.
[14:11.680 --> 14:20.520]  It's only going to be fixed when you and I and ordinary people get over being afraid
[14:20.520 --> 14:23.720]  of going to the government and raising a red flag.
[14:23.720 --> 14:31.120]  As long as I've been doing what I'm doing, I still run into the same thing.
[14:31.120 --> 14:40.640]  I've got an issue now where a judge has done something absolutely, totally outrageous.
[14:40.640 --> 14:42.840]  Judge should go to prison for it.
[14:42.840 --> 14:45.560]  The guy doesn't want to do anything.
[14:45.560 --> 14:47.520]  He doesn't want to go after the judge.
[14:47.520 --> 14:53.360]  He doesn't want to attack what she has done.
[14:53.360 --> 15:03.800]  Somehow we've got this notion that these judges are going to screw us royal, but if we object
[15:03.800 --> 15:08.640]  to it, they'll screw us a whole lot worse.
[15:08.640 --> 15:15.680]  When the judge is doing the worst they can, they'll be afraid, if we do anything, they'll
[15:15.680 --> 15:22.040]  do something a lot worse and we don't stand up to them.
[15:22.040 --> 15:29.440]  I have to admit that asking someone to file criminal charges against the federal judge
[15:29.440 --> 15:39.440]  in a state court, it kind of sounds a bit radical when you hear it the first time, especially
[15:39.440 --> 15:47.280]  if you're fresh out of the mainstream, you're not accustomed to talking about this kind
[15:47.280 --> 15:48.280]  of thing.
[15:48.280 --> 15:58.240]  It sounds pretty outrageous, but the same people will agree that if anybody's going
[15:58.240 --> 16:05.520]  to fix this, we're going to have to do it, that it's up to the individual sovereign.
[16:05.520 --> 16:15.840]  When you ask the individual sovereign to actually get up and do it, well, you run into a seemingly
[16:15.840 --> 16:27.880]  embedded fear and we can't seem to get them off the dot, but if we can get legislation
[16:27.880 --> 16:35.680]  that would direct the grand jury to sit once a month to hear complaints from private citizens,
[16:35.680 --> 16:40.880]  that'll make it a whole lot easier for an individual to go in and raise an alarm.
[16:40.880 --> 16:46.480]  This is Randy Kelton, devastated by the Craig, RealVal Radio.
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[19:20.680 --> 19:44.640]  Okay, well, back to my favorite subject, which is grand juries.
[19:44.640 --> 19:53.000]  I was in Wetherford, Texas last week and a friend had gotten arrested there and I was
[19:53.000 --> 20:01.160]  checking through the records looking for documentation and ran into a county attorney.
[20:01.160 --> 20:04.440]  And he has agreed to come on the show.
[20:04.440 --> 20:06.720]  I was real pleased with this guy.
[20:06.720 --> 20:11.120]  He was a consummate professional.
[20:11.120 --> 20:17.200]  I suspect this guy is going to wind up in a relatively high political position because
[20:17.200 --> 20:23.000]  he really knew how to handle me and he knew how to handle himself.
[20:23.000 --> 20:30.960]  He was smart, but when I did, you know, I was talking to him about the procedures.
[20:30.960 --> 20:33.200]  I was looking for some records.
[20:33.200 --> 20:41.360]  This guy had been arrested back in September for driving an expired driver's license.
[20:41.360 --> 20:51.480]  He spends two days in jail, gets bonded out and on his way to pick up his car, he gets
[20:51.480 --> 20:58.240]  arrested again, spends another two days in jail for the same offense.
[20:58.240 --> 21:05.840]  So this was back in September and I went to the court clerk to pull his records and the
[21:05.840 --> 21:10.320]  clerk said she didn't have any records on him.
[21:10.320 --> 21:18.800]  Now when I read the code, somebody had to have those arrest records because he was arrested
[21:18.800 --> 21:19.800]  twice.
[21:19.800 --> 21:25.480]  He's been total of four days in jail, bonded out twice.
[21:25.480 --> 21:30.800]  So we had to have been brought before two different magistrates.
[21:30.800 --> 21:36.480]  They had to hold an examining trial because the only time a magistrate sets bail is after
[21:36.480 --> 21:43.000]  the examining trial according to 17.05 code of criminal procedure.
[21:43.000 --> 21:56.560]  Bail is taken after an examining trial or by a magistrate after an examining trial or
[21:56.560 --> 22:03.880]  by a police officer under 17.20.21.22 and those are cases where a bond is preset and
[22:03.880 --> 22:08.480]  the police officer can take the bond without having taken it before a magistrate.
[22:08.480 --> 22:09.480]  So he was arrested twice.
[22:09.480 --> 22:12.720]  He had to be brought before a magistrate.
[22:12.720 --> 22:18.120]  The magistrate had to hold an examining trial so he could set bail.
[22:18.120 --> 22:26.640]  He had to make a finding of probable cause in order under 16.17 code of criminal procedure.
[22:26.640 --> 22:34.800]  He had to create a warrant under 16.20 because the person was arrested without a warrant first
[22:34.800 --> 22:35.800]  being issued.
[22:35.800 --> 22:40.680]  Then he had to seal up all of the documents had in the hearing cause his name to be written
[22:40.680 --> 22:48.320]  across the envelope and forwarded to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[22:48.320 --> 22:54.360]  Well I went to the court of jurisdiction and the clerk there said well she didn't have
[22:54.360 --> 22:59.760]  these documents so I asked her where they were and said well they go to the prosecutor
[22:59.760 --> 23:07.320]  and he's running about three months behind so I went to the prosecutor's office and asked
[23:07.320 --> 23:14.040]  for the records and they tried to do their little song and dance about how these are
[23:14.040 --> 23:23.240]  work product and the records of the prosecutor are not open to public inspection and I insisted
[23:23.240 --> 23:29.480]  that the records I was looking for were open to public inspection because they were required
[23:29.480 --> 23:36.480]  to be forwarded to the clerk of the court but I just came from the clerk of the court
[23:36.480 --> 23:39.960]  and she doesn't have those records.
[23:39.960 --> 23:47.040]  Now somebody has those records and he ever has them, has them to the exclusion of the
[23:47.040 --> 23:53.280]  clerk of the court and I had seen some investigators running around so I asked the woman if she
[23:53.280 --> 23:59.960]  had a certified police officer here I told her I saw someone earlier with a badge on
[23:59.960 --> 24:03.440]  and wouldn't know if he was a certified police officer and turned out he was standing right
[24:03.440 --> 24:08.480]  behind her I just wouldn't pay attention I guess and she turned and pointed to him and
[24:08.480 --> 24:16.920]  oh good I'm going to meet you and he said you are I said yes I am if I can get this
[24:16.920 --> 24:26.200]  clerk to verify that this office has the records I'm looking for I'm going to want you to arrest
[24:26.200 --> 24:35.280]  the prosecuting attorney and this is weatherford texas and frankly I was very pleased with
[24:35.280 --> 24:42.520]  this officer never got an attitude never got excited so you want me to arrest my boss
[24:42.520 --> 24:51.560]  well yeah that's about the size of it he said you really think I'll arrest my boss I said
[24:51.560 --> 24:59.400]  well life is filled with little decisions we all get to make some and he said well when
[24:59.400 --> 25:07.840]  we get to that point I will make a decision I said fair enough and because of that little
[25:07.840 --> 25:16.480]  conversation the prosecuting attorney decided to see me and when I sat down with the prosecuting
[25:16.480 --> 25:27.040]  attorney I sort of understood why this officer handled himself the way he did because generally
[25:27.040 --> 25:35.240]  the head of an organization pretty well sets the tone for the organization and this prosecutor
[25:35.240 --> 25:47.280]  was exceptionally professional he wasn't knowledgeable about the code but by the time I had gotten
[25:47.280 --> 25:55.480]  in front of him he had done some searching on me and pretty well knew who I was so he
[25:55.480 --> 26:02.600]  paid a lot closer attention he was a lot more careful but just from talking to him if he
[26:02.600 --> 26:11.600]  is an indication of a group of prosecutors around the state if not all of them at least
[26:11.600 --> 26:21.440]  a few of them rather he agrees with what we're doing or not rather he likes it or not he
[26:21.440 --> 26:31.440]  was sensitive to the potential problem it could create for him and that's enough if
[26:31.440 --> 26:39.840]  we can get just a few prosecutors who recognize how dangerous a citizen can be when the citizen
[26:39.840 --> 26:48.400]  knows how to use the existing law it won't be anywhere near so difficult to get this
[26:48.400 --> 27:00.880]  implemented and I asked the prosecuting attorney there if he would have any objection to the
[27:00.880 --> 27:08.160]  local police officers when they arrest someone to them taking them directly to the nearest
[27:08.160 --> 27:15.680]  magistrate rather than taking them and booking them into the jail and this guy is a politician
[27:15.680 --> 27:22.720]  he was he was very good at not directly answering my questions but I stayed after him and finally
[27:22.720 --> 27:29.000]  he said you know he didn't really care what his business what they did if they did that
[27:29.000 --> 27:35.120]  it would make any difference to him then that was after he had time to think about it because
[27:35.120 --> 27:43.400]  he thought about it and he couldn't see how that would affect his job at all so he didn't
[27:43.400 --> 27:50.320]  care and I've talked to a number of policemen I've never found a policeman that cared one
[27:50.320 --> 27:57.400]  way or another I mean there may be something to do and those are the ones that arrest people
[27:57.400 --> 28:01.640]  for reasons they shouldn't arrest people and they're not going to want to explain that
[28:01.640 --> 28:12.240]  arrest to the magistrate but if we had that requirement in place then the police officer
[28:12.240 --> 28:18.880]  would be far more cautious before he made an arrest this is something that I want to
[28:18.880 --> 28:29.080]  get to but I've been trying to get to that for 30 years now I'm not getting it done oh
[28:29.080 --> 28:35.080]  we're beating up a few public officials here and there and especially with what Eddie's
[28:35.080 --> 28:43.840]  been doing he's getting a lot of exposure the courts are having to deal with what he's
[28:43.840 --> 28:50.280]  doing he's given him a hard time they're obviously noticing what he's doing so he's getting
[28:50.280 --> 29:02.760]  their attention but we need more if we can get the legislature to agree to put a requirement
[29:02.760 --> 29:10.480]  in law for grand jurors to meet at least once a month for the purpose of hearing complaints
[29:10.480 --> 29:18.280]  from private citizens that will absolutely end this question of whether or not a private
[29:18.280 --> 29:27.680]  citizen can go directly to the grand jury right now we have prosecutors some of them
[29:27.680 --> 29:34.120]  may actually think that we can't go directly to the grand jury because you know they've
[29:34.120 --> 29:41.280]  controlled the grand jury so long without question they think it's their territory and primarily
[29:41.280 --> 29:47.760]  I want to indicate to you it's not your territory we just let you use this is Randy Keltner
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[32:21.080 --> 32:36.080]  well I need a prosecutor to come and help me prosecute them wicked leader you see the
[32:36.080 --> 32:56.440]  boys we are back to the radio this is our party now for our marathon as simple with
[32:56.440 --> 33:03.480]  the break call-in number is 512646 1984 if you have any questions queries or poses now
[33:03.480 --> 33:07.800]  That was a good time to call in, get in line, and let's get busy on them.
[33:07.800 --> 33:11.640]  We do have three and a half hours left in this show, so we got plenty of time to get
[33:11.640 --> 33:12.640]  your calls handled.
[33:12.640 --> 33:16.600]  Okay, Randy, where were you leaving off at when we went to break?
[33:16.600 --> 33:17.600]  Okay.
[33:17.600 --> 33:29.080]  I was talking about seeing if we can get support to pursue our local legislators and get them
[33:29.080 --> 33:38.320]  to propose and the next legislature, past legislation, that would require grand jurors
[33:38.320 --> 33:43.200]  to meet for the purpose of hearing complaints from private citizens.
[33:43.200 --> 33:49.680]  I have a friend who's pretty good at lobbying, and he's telling me what he needs is letters
[33:49.680 --> 33:56.400]  from people, or at least indications from people who will be willing to send letters
[33:56.400 --> 34:08.040]  to their congressman, pushing them to pass this legislation, because right now, if you're
[34:08.040 --> 34:15.920]  an elected official, just about anywhere in the country, and you're looking at an election,
[34:15.920 --> 34:21.840]  you're looking at going in as an incumbent, and in this next election, that is not going
[34:21.840 --> 34:23.600]  to be in your favor.
[34:23.600 --> 34:31.600]  Now, normally it is in your favor if you're an incumbent, but in this political climate,
[34:31.600 --> 34:38.520]  being an incumbent is a handicap because the public is up in arms, they're angry, they
[34:38.520 --> 34:49.920]  may not know who to vote for, but they certainly, we can get them to move also.
[34:49.920 --> 34:57.360]  This is going to be the year that the State Commission on Judicial Conduct will come up
[34:57.360 --> 35:05.320]  for sunset, so that the legislature will take a close look at the State Commission
[35:05.320 --> 35:08.520]  on Judicial Conduct.
[35:08.520 --> 35:16.920]  And I have our super guru working on bar grievance and judicial conduct.
[35:16.920 --> 35:24.480]  I had a basic bar grievance page up, but it didn't work great, we're revamping that
[35:24.480 --> 35:27.000]  right now.
[35:27.000 --> 35:31.160]  I know I've talked for a long time about all this stuff I'm doing, you're probably
[35:31.160 --> 35:36.920]  getting tired of hearing it, because it's not coming up and it's frustrating me, Frankle,
[35:36.920 --> 35:42.880]  but this has turned out to be a tremendous amount of work to get it together, but we
[35:42.880 --> 35:48.000]  are very close to having something really functional.
[35:48.000 --> 35:57.880]  I'm building the specific input page for the State of Texas, we'll build that one first,
[35:57.880 --> 36:03.960]  and then we will, as we get people interested from other states, we'll probably do California
[36:03.960 --> 36:12.840]  next, so that you go on and the system will bring up the precise form that that state
[36:12.840 --> 36:15.120]  uses.
[36:15.120 --> 36:22.760]  In order to do this, we have to go through the disciplinary standards for each state.
[36:22.760 --> 36:28.720]  Most of them will be very similar, but I still have to go through all of them and get them
[36:28.720 --> 36:29.720]  all set up.
[36:29.720 --> 36:39.840]  We'll have Texas up pretty soon, and the main thing is, I finally have the backside
[36:39.840 --> 36:47.760]  engine developed, that has been a major undertaking, figuring out how to do it, but we've got
[36:47.760 --> 36:56.280]  how to do it pretty well figured out, and I'm encouraged by what it is doing with traffic,
[36:56.280 --> 37:07.840]  because it's going to lend itself to a second tool we'll add to the Bar Grievance site,
[37:07.840 --> 37:15.000]  and once we get the grievance portion up and working the way you want it to, and what
[37:15.000 --> 37:25.280]  we're setting it up to do is, when you go on and fill out a grievance, it will download
[37:25.280 --> 37:37.840]  to you a PDF file that you can print, sign, and send, and we're looking at what the codes
[37:37.840 --> 37:38.840]  are.
[37:38.840 --> 37:46.360]  Texas seems to have more code in this regard than most of the other states, because from
[37:46.360 --> 37:53.240]  what I've seen in the other states, they just have the standards of professional conduct.
[37:53.240 --> 37:59.920]  Texas has the standards of professional conduct, and they also have a complete set of rules
[37:59.920 --> 38:08.680]  of disciplinary procedure that stipulate precisely how these Bar Grievances are to
[38:08.680 --> 38:17.880]  be handled, and in reading through the disciplinary procedures, there's one section in there where
[38:17.880 --> 38:27.720]  the Chief Counsel is to look at a complaint and decide if the complaint is actually a
[38:27.720 --> 38:38.560]  grievance or an inquiry, but there's nothing in the code stipulating the difference between
[38:38.560 --> 38:47.200]  a grievance and an inquiry other than to say, in the definition of a grievance, that it
[38:47.200 --> 38:56.840]  is an allegation of a violation of a specific standard, and when you look at the instructions
[38:56.840 --> 39:05.680]  of how to fill out a grievance, they tell you not to use any statute or case law in
[39:05.680 --> 39:07.680]  the grievance.
[39:07.680 --> 39:18.840]  Well, if you do it the way they instruct you to, then that keeps you from stating specifically
[39:18.840 --> 39:22.920]  a violation of a standard.
[39:22.920 --> 39:31.120]  So it appears as though they're creating the instructions so that it leaves them the option
[39:31.120 --> 39:41.960]  of deciding if they want to accept your complaint as a grievance or as a request for mediation.
[39:41.960 --> 39:51.040]  So if you're looking at this, right now I'm trying to get clarification on precisely what
[39:51.040 --> 39:58.040]  amounts to a grievance as opposed to a request for mediation.
[39:58.040 --> 40:03.760]  How does this Chief Counsel make that determination?
[40:03.760 --> 40:12.800]  But even if I can't get that, we are preparing the tools so that it will write the complaint
[40:12.800 --> 40:23.000]  in the language of the standard that we are accusing the attorney of violating.
[40:23.000 --> 40:32.920]  And we're writing it now so that it specifically stipulates that the lawyer violated standard
[40:32.920 --> 40:44.760]  1.01 by failing to maintain a level of professional knowledge and competence that mimics the
[40:44.760 --> 40:47.800]  language of the standard.
[40:47.800 --> 40:55.440]  But we'll stipulate what the numerical designation of the standard is.
[40:55.440 --> 41:02.880]  They won't like it, but we really don't care if they like it or not because I'm looking
[41:02.880 --> 41:12.800]  close at the code and because Texas does have a specific disciplinary code, if they don't
[41:12.800 --> 41:22.040]  follow it precisely, then they can go after them to the Chief Counsel and the board themselves
[41:22.040 --> 41:33.120]  directly for failing to abide by, failing to perform a duty they're required to perform.
[41:33.120 --> 41:43.000]  Because in Texas, in the beginning, it states that the State Bar Association is an administrative
[41:43.000 --> 41:47.880]  arm of the judiciary.
[41:47.880 --> 41:52.360]  So they are listed as a governmental agency.
[41:52.360 --> 42:00.840]  I know we have talked about this and they consider them a quasi-judicial agency.
[42:00.840 --> 42:07.840]  Well, in reading what the Supreme Court says about them, there's not a thing quasi about
[42:07.840 --> 42:08.840]  them.
[42:08.840 --> 42:14.320]  They are absolutely a governmental agency, period.
[42:14.320 --> 42:21.840]  So that brings them squarely under Chapter 39 of the Texas Penal Code.
[42:21.840 --> 42:33.240]  Chapter 39, for the most part, contains violations that only public officials, complains laws
[42:33.240 --> 42:40.480]  that only public officials can violate, or people pretending to be a public official.
[42:40.480 --> 42:48.080]  And we have a new statute in that one that I didn't notice when it got put in.
[42:48.080 --> 43:00.840]  It was put in in 07, and I just reread the code and found it, 39.015 stipulates that
[43:00.840 --> 43:07.200]  at the request of, or with the permission of the local prosecuting attorney, the attorney
[43:07.200 --> 43:17.280]  general has concurrent jurisdiction for violations of Chapter 39.
[43:17.280 --> 43:19.520]  That creates a whole other dynamic.
[43:19.520 --> 43:25.640]  I know we didn't have talked about it, that it could create a serious problem by giving
[43:25.640 --> 43:31.880]  the attorney general this much power because, you know, I'm not happy with my prosecuting
[43:31.880 --> 43:38.720]  attorneys, but they are relatively independent, larger government, and I wouldn't keep them
[43:38.720 --> 43:39.720]  that way.
[43:39.720 --> 43:47.520]  In the meantime, we may be able to use it to apply pressure tools with the prosecutor's
[43:47.520 --> 43:48.520]  knowledge.
[43:48.520 --> 43:49.520]  Touch on that when I come back.
[43:49.520 --> 43:53.400]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, you're live on radio, we'll be right
[43:53.400 --> 43:54.400]  back.
[43:54.400 --> 44:06.080]  The Oakland City Bombay, top 10 reasons to question the official story.
[44:06.080 --> 44:09.560]  Reason number two, why was the ATF AWOL?
[44:09.560 --> 44:14.440]  Paramedic Tiffany Bible, who was on the scene within five minutes, has stated in an affidavit
[44:14.440 --> 44:18.640]  that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms told her that they were not in
[44:18.640 --> 44:19.640]  the office that morning.
[44:19.640 --> 44:24.640]  D&T Catherine Mallet, also overheard one agent say to another, close, is that why we got
[44:24.640 --> 44:27.120]  the page to not come in today, end quote.
[44:27.120 --> 44:32.200]  Bruce Shaw, as interviewed on KS4RTV, was also told by ATF agents that they had been
[44:32.200 --> 44:34.600]  paged to not come into work.
[44:34.600 --> 44:39.160]  The ATF initially denied these claims, and now variously claim that one of their agents
[44:39.160 --> 44:42.960]  was in a free-falling elevator which has been disproven, or that they had been in an all-night
[44:42.960 --> 44:45.400]  stakeout, or that they had been in a golf tournament.
[44:45.400 --> 44:50.840]  As they try to sort out their lives, all we want to know is, did the ATF receive a warning,
[44:50.840 --> 44:58.520]  and if so, why did they not pass it on to others in the middle of the world?
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[46:16.640 --> 46:41.640]  That is, that is appropriate, not for a reason, because we do have to be careful for the
[46:41.640 --> 46:48.640]  future.
[46:48.640 --> 46:54.920]  And here I am wishing for prosecuting attorneys, or for the attorney general, to prosecute
[46:54.920 --> 46:57.760]  a prosecuting attorney.
[46:57.760 --> 47:06.160]  And that can be a big problem, because we are giving too much power to the federal government.
[47:06.160 --> 47:10.400]  But on the other hand, when you have a prosecuting attorney that won't do his job, you need a
[47:10.400 --> 47:13.040]  whip of getting at him.
[47:13.040 --> 47:20.560]  And the reason I went to that here is we're looking and looking for all of the tools we
[47:20.560 --> 47:23.080]  can bring to bear.
[47:23.080 --> 47:32.440]  And here with bar grievances, right now, most any bar grievance you file, the chief council
[47:32.440 --> 47:39.120]  is considering the grievance as a request for mediation.
[47:39.120 --> 47:42.880]  Or they're saying that there's something wrong with it and kicking it back.
[47:42.880 --> 47:50.880]  So we want to develop an input form that will create a grievance that meets all of their
[47:50.880 --> 47:53.880]  statutory requirements.
[47:53.880 --> 48:00.680]  So that if they kick it back, if they say that it's not a complaint, then I'm digging
[48:00.680 --> 48:08.800]  through the rules of disciplinary procedure to see how I can accuse the chief disciplinary
[48:08.800 --> 48:17.120]  council of violating his own code and then go back after him, get the system just to,
[48:17.120 --> 48:21.920]  as a matter of course, generate a complaint against him.
[48:21.920 --> 48:27.840]  We start kicking these guys in their teeth, then we're likely to start getting some more
[48:27.840 --> 48:29.720]  effect.
[48:29.720 --> 48:36.960]  I was looking at through the sanctions that have been issued against judges.
[48:36.960 --> 48:42.000]  They're all against JP and municipal court judges.
[48:42.000 --> 48:49.320]  There was one sanction issued against, I'm sorry, and this is judicial conduct, one against
[48:49.320 --> 48:54.040]  a district judge.
[48:54.040 --> 48:58.360]  And that was because he was convicted.
[48:58.360 --> 49:02.800]  He was charged with a crime and convicted.
[49:02.800 --> 49:08.480]  He was charged with key in his next door neighbor's car.
[49:08.480 --> 49:17.840]  Now, I don't think this district judge was one of the sharpest knives in the drawer because
[49:17.840 --> 49:21.360]  he keyed the guy's card for those who don't know what I'm talking about.
[49:21.360 --> 49:26.320]  That's where you just take a key and you walk down the side of somebody's car and just peel
[49:26.320 --> 49:28.800]  the paint off.
[49:28.800 --> 49:43.720]  He did it on camera, but the only way he got sanctioned was because if a judge or a prosecutor
[49:43.720 --> 49:50.320]  is convicted of a criminal act, the complaint is mandatory.
[49:50.320 --> 50:00.920]  If an attorney is convicted of a crime, he is to be disbarred as a matter of law.
[50:00.920 --> 50:03.680]  It's mandatory.
[50:03.680 --> 50:11.640]  And the only seems the only way a judge above the level of justice of the peace can be sanctioned
[50:11.640 --> 50:18.120]  by this bar association is when they absolutely have no option.
[50:18.120 --> 50:27.000]  Well, to me, that indicates misfeasance in office.
[50:27.000 --> 50:36.640]  I filed about 20 criminal complaints against a judge when I filed a judicial conduct complaint
[50:36.640 --> 50:39.280]  against him.
[50:39.280 --> 50:45.880]  And the commission decided that they examined into my accusation, decided did not rise to
[50:45.880 --> 50:48.680]  the level of misconduct.
[50:48.680 --> 50:56.560]  It did not rise to the level of misconduct only because he hadn't been convicted of
[50:56.560 --> 51:04.320]  it, because that is the only way our current judicial conduct commission will issue sanctions
[51:04.320 --> 51:07.040]  against a high-level judge.
[51:07.040 --> 51:12.280]  And attorneys are essentially the same way.
[51:12.280 --> 51:18.600]  The only attorney that's going to get sanctions is an attorney who's got a judgment at him
[51:18.600 --> 51:24.960]  for some reason or some high-level politician.
[51:24.960 --> 51:30.160]  And one of the good ways to get yourself clobbered is force the judge to sit in court and listen
[51:30.160 --> 51:36.000]  to an attorney adjudicate a client's rights when the judge would rather be out playing
[51:36.000 --> 51:37.000]  golf.
[51:37.000 --> 51:46.120]  So we want to get that fixed, and using the bar grievance is going to be a very powerful
[51:46.120 --> 51:47.720]  way of doing that.
[51:47.720 --> 51:58.400]  But what will be even more powerful is when we add a civil suit of malpractice to it.
[51:58.400 --> 52:05.520]  Once we have the bar grievance up and working the way we want it, then we will add to it
[52:05.520 --> 52:10.520]  a set of questions that go to malpractice.
[52:10.520 --> 52:18.440]  We put together a procedure that I'm in the process of patenting where we take the code
[52:18.440 --> 52:25.520]  and turn it into a set of questions, and that allows you to mine the code very quickly to
[52:25.520 --> 52:31.920]  find the sections of the code that are appropriate to what you're doing.
[52:31.920 --> 52:37.400]  It's a little more complex than that in the way we need to break it up and section it
[52:37.400 --> 52:42.200]  out so that people can intuitively move through it quickly, but that's part of what's taken
[52:42.200 --> 52:44.680]  so long to get this together right.
[52:44.680 --> 52:48.840]  But we have that pretty well sorted out.
[52:48.840 --> 52:57.200]  So we go through all of the elements that are in the code because everything in law
[52:57.200 --> 53:00.960]  revolves around the elements.
[53:00.960 --> 53:04.160]  My training is engineering.
[53:04.160 --> 53:08.440]  Everything in engineering revolves around parameters.
[53:08.440 --> 53:12.200]  There are certain parameters we have to deal with.
[53:12.200 --> 53:15.920]  We don't have to like them, we don't have to agree with them, we just have to deal with
[53:15.920 --> 53:16.920]  them.
[53:16.920 --> 53:24.760]  If an engineer goes generally to mother nature, she has all these laws.
[53:24.760 --> 53:28.480]  First law, mother nature enforces all of her laws all the time.
[53:28.480 --> 53:34.200]  So we have to pay attention to the parameters that exist and design what we're going to
[53:34.200 --> 53:35.880]  design within those parameters.
[53:35.880 --> 53:39.520]  Law is the same way.
[53:39.520 --> 53:46.840]  The code stipulates the parameters in the form of the legal elements.
[53:46.840 --> 53:54.560]  So we use the code in the form of questions.
[53:54.560 --> 54:02.640]  The question that goes to a legal element or every statute or string of the code that
[54:02.640 --> 54:10.560]  goes to a legal prohibition or prescription, we turn it into a question, did they do this?
[54:10.560 --> 54:13.040]  Did they fail to do this?
[54:13.040 --> 54:19.800]  And once we've done that with the grievance part, then we go to the elements of a civil
[54:19.800 --> 54:23.440]  offense of malpractice.
[54:23.440 --> 54:26.360]  And then we start asking questions.
[54:26.360 --> 54:36.520]  All of these different causes of action will fall under one or more of the standards.
[54:36.520 --> 54:40.520]  So we'll ask the question about the standard and then we'll go on to more questions that
[54:40.520 --> 54:41.520]  go to malpractice.
[54:41.520 --> 54:48.800]  And when you're done and hit the submit button, it'll spit you out of bar grievance and it
[54:48.800 --> 54:58.280] 'll spit you out of malpractice suit with all the documentation to go with it.
[54:58.280 --> 55:07.000]  Discovery, your response to the motion to dismiss that hasn't been filed yet, just about
[55:07.000 --> 55:10.680]  everything you need to kick them in their teeth.
[55:10.680 --> 55:18.040]  Now, if you file a civil action against an attorney in a justice in the peace court,
[55:18.040 --> 55:24.960]  say you only ask for $5,000 damages, then you can file it in the JP court.
[55:24.960 --> 55:28.760]  And that'll cost you about $60.
[55:28.760 --> 55:35.400]  County court costs you about $120 at the end, just under $200 for the district court.
[55:35.400 --> 55:43.160]  If you get a ticket, it's going to cost you $300, $400 by the time you pay for the ticket
[55:43.160 --> 55:48.320]  and the court costs and not counting all your time going down there and having them jerky
[55:48.320 --> 55:49.320]  around.
[55:49.320 --> 55:57.160]  If we do this right, we'll make it cheaper for you to sue them than to pay them.
[55:57.160 --> 56:05.040]  And with what Eddie's done to them already, he's getting them softened up with all of
[56:05.040 --> 56:09.320]  these motions and stuff they're putting in there that the courts are having to deal with.
[56:09.320 --> 56:13.360]  They're beginning to drop these cases rather than deal with them because it's all about
[56:13.360 --> 56:17.000]  how much money can we make.
[56:17.000 --> 56:23.800]  When they start getting sued every time they turn around, if we could get one in a hundred
[56:23.800 --> 56:33.040]  to sue them, this ticket writing scheme would stop being profitable.
[56:33.040 --> 56:40.040]  And then I have a program up close to put together, which was really the first thing
[56:40.040 --> 56:48.600]  we were going to do, was a program for valuation of criminal cases.
[56:48.600 --> 56:54.440]  So we have a lot of things that are finally beginning to come together.
[56:54.440 --> 56:59.800]  And we hope to have it implemented within a month or two, some of these, at least the
[56:59.800 --> 57:06.400]  Bard River's and Jewish Conduct Complaint, and these will be tools to add to what we're
[57:06.400 --> 57:07.400]  doing.
[57:07.400 --> 57:20.960]  But in the end, the most powerful tool will be statutory access to grand juries.
[57:20.960 --> 57:24.560]  Consider the ramifications of the possibilities.
[57:24.560 --> 57:30.280]  We've got a policeman out here who's had a hard night, he's out with his buddies the
[57:30.280 --> 57:35.960]  night before, and he drank a little bit too much, got home late, mama is not happy with
[57:35.960 --> 57:36.960]  him.
[57:36.960 --> 57:42.680]  He wakes up with a hangover, mama's all over his case, the boss is upset, but he's late
[57:42.680 --> 57:47.920]  for work, he's been chewed out, he is not having a good day.
[57:47.920 --> 57:56.800]  And then he pulls me over, or any, and we are our usual smart mouth demanding selves.
[57:56.800 --> 58:00.800]  But he's not going to improve.
[58:00.800 --> 58:03.400]  Yes, not going to improve.
[58:03.400 --> 58:07.280]  And he wants to do one of these attitude arrests.
[58:07.280 --> 58:14.560]  If he has to look at explaining his behavior to a grand jury, that's likely to adjust
[58:14.560 --> 58:21.960]  his attitude instead, and keep him from getting in trouble, and keep us out of jail.
[58:21.960 --> 58:23.120]  This is Randy Calvin, Deb.
[58:23.120 --> 58:25.120]  Steve, Daddy Craig, you live radio.
[58:25.120 --> 58:33.760]  If you have any comments or questions, give us a call, 512-646-1984.
[58:33.760 --> 58:37.840]  This is our four hour info marathon.
[58:37.840 --> 58:41.240]  Without finish to this subject, I could talk about deep process probably all night.
[58:41.240 --> 58:46.960]  When I come back, I want to talk about some of the things that we're doing on the foreclosure
[58:46.960 --> 58:47.960]  or front.
[58:47.960 --> 58:49.680]  This is Randy Calvin, Deb.
[58:49.680 --> 58:50.680]  Steve, Daddy Craig.
[58:50.680 --> 58:51.680]  We'll be right back.
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[59:59.320 --> 01:00:04.600]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[01:00:04.600 --> 01:00:09.640]  Syrian security forces reportedly opened fire on anti-government protesters after prayers
[01:00:09.640 --> 01:00:12.880]  Friday at several locations around the country.
[01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:19.360]  In Darar where military defectors recently killed 27 regime troops, the army sent reinforcements.
[01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.160]  Rights activists said one person was killed in the rest of the city of Homs, and a man
[01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:29.040]  who was wounded in the province of Darar earlier in the day died of his wounds.
[01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:35.080]  The adult high schoolers walked out of class Wednesday protesting $400 million in cuts
[01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:39.640]  to grade schools and colleges proposed by the state legislature.
[01:00:39.640 --> 01:00:43.800]  One student said, quote, you cut school, we cut class.
[01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.640]  The students marched to the University of Washington where they rallied with college
[01:00:47.640 --> 01:00:48.640]  students.
[01:00:48.640 --> 01:00:55.800]  Washington's university system faces cuts of $160 million.
[01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:00.600]  Washington's Supreme Court has granted Julian Assange permission to appeal his extradition
[01:01:00.600 --> 01:01:03.960]  to Sweden where he faces sex crime allegations.
[01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:08.560]  The two-day appeal beginning February 1st will be heard by a panel of seven Supreme Court
[01:01:08.560 --> 01:01:14.480]  justices, quote, given the great public importance of the issue raised, which is whether a prosecutor
[01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.880]  is a judicial authority.
[01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:23.520]  A military pretrial of private Bradley Manning, charged with providing thousands of classified
[01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:27.200]  documents to WikiLeaks, got underway Friday.
[01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:32.360]  Manning also leaked video footage of an attack by an Apache helicopter gunship that killed
[01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:37.200]  Iraqi civilians, including two employees of Reuters news agency.
[01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:41.440]  The court appearance was Manning's first public appearance since March.
[01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:46.880]  Last month, 54 members of the European Parliament signed a letter to the U.S. government criticizing
[01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.040]  Manning's lengthy detention.
[01:01:49.040 --> 01:01:53.960]  They questioned whether his right to due process had been violated by keeping him in pretrial
[01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:56.320]  confinement for 18 months.
[01:01:56.320 --> 01:02:02.200]  Juan Mendes, U.N. special rapporteur on torture, was denied access to Manning.
[01:02:02.200 --> 01:02:07.480]  The U.S. Justice Department has sought to link Manning to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
[01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:12.880]  NBC News, citing unnamed military sources, said earlier this year officials had found
[01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:17.840]  no evidence of direct contact between the two.
[01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.880]  U.N. presidential candidate Ron Paul separated himself from the rest of the candidates at
[01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:27.640]  Thursday's TV debate by saying the U.S. can ill afford a repeat of the war in Iraq.
[01:02:27.640 --> 01:02:32.320]  Paul said there was no U.N. evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear weapons program
[01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.640]  calling claims to the contrary war propaganda.
[01:02:35.640 --> 01:02:39.560]  The libertarian went on, to me the greatest danger is that we will have a president who
[01:02:39.560 --> 01:02:43.080]  will overreact and we will soon bomb Iran.
[01:02:43.080 --> 01:02:47.160]  Paul warned, we ought to really sit back and think, not dump the gun and believe that we
[01:02:47.160 --> 01:02:48.160]  are going to be attacked.
[01:02:48.160 --> 01:03:18.120]  That's how we got into that useless war in Iraq and lost so much.
[01:03:18.160 --> 01:03:30.040]  Yes, all according to the will of the Almighty.
[01:03:30.040 --> 01:03:44.560]  I read his book and it says the cares come from the upside down.
[01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:45.560]  Okay, let's see.
[01:03:45.560 --> 01:03:57.120]  about remedy and about potentially new legislation to help us secure remedy.
[01:03:57.120 --> 01:04:06.960]  I would hope that anyone listening in or around Austin in the next few months and especially
[01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:16.960]  when the legislature begins to meet again and starts holding meetings over especially
[01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:26.000]  the sunsetting of the State Commission on Judicial Conduct that we can generate a lot
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.920]  of public participation.
[01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:36.360]  Public participation in these subcommittee meetings is extremely powerful.
[01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:42.720]  Most people, we look at how big the state is, is some 14 million people out here.
[01:04:42.720 --> 01:04:44.720]  How can I make a difference?
[01:04:44.720 --> 01:04:52.600]  Well, if you're in Austin and you go down to these subcommittee meetings and you climb
[01:04:52.600 --> 01:05:02.200]  down these politicians' strokes like Eddie did, you have an effect.
[01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:09.080]  If you had people go down on this issue of 39.03, you increase and get to a felony if
[01:05:09.080 --> 01:05:15.360]  there was physical injury and they got it through.
[01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:21.240]  These legislators pay attention when the public comes down and talks to them.
[01:05:21.240 --> 01:05:29.760]  So I'm going to start a campaign to get people interested, get people up and moving and get
[01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:30.760]  them down there.
[01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:37.240]  It gives you an opportunity to choose somebody out and they have to just sit there and listen
[01:05:37.240 --> 01:05:38.240]  to you.
[01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:43.640]  If nothing else, that's worth the trouble just to get to do that.
[01:05:43.640 --> 01:05:51.800]  But if we get this in, if we get just a couple of pieces in place, we can change everything.
[01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:55.640]  And the first one that we want to get in is the grand jury issue.
[01:05:55.640 --> 01:06:06.400]  The second is we go after the state commission and judicial conduct and see if we can't get
[01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:12.120]  some more specific guidelines.
[01:06:12.120 --> 01:06:18.920]  I'm going to run a routine on the commission.
[01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:25.040]  There are two judicial officers, actually four judicial officers, but two of the judicial
[01:06:25.040 --> 01:06:27.520]  officers are lawyers.
[01:06:27.520 --> 01:06:34.320]  The other two are judges on the committee or commission.
[01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:41.880]  I'm preparing a judicial conduct complaint, actually several of them.
[01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:54.320]  And I will be accusing judges of committing criminal acts in my judicial conduct complaint
[01:06:54.320 --> 01:07:02.240]  and included as exhibits in support of my assertions and accusations.
[01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:09.000]  I will put in verified criminal affidavits and you can see some of them.
[01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:17.120]  If you go to jurisimprudence.com, there's a link to it on our website.
[01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:23.880]  And right there on the front and the top in the middle, there's a link to Cherokee County.
[01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:29.160]  You click on that link and you can find the folder that has the complaints in it.
[01:07:29.160 --> 01:07:38.720]  Well, what I'll do is take those complaints, swear to them before a notary and attach them
[01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:46.800]  to the judicial conduct complaint as affidavits in support.
[01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:55.040]  The problem the two judges on the panel have is that they are judges.
[01:07:55.040 --> 01:08:02.840]  And when a judge has it made known to him that a crime has been committed under 211
[01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:10.800]  code of criminal procedure, I'm sorry, under 210 code of criminal procedure, he has a specific
[01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:17.360]  duty to enforce the laws and keep the peace.
[01:08:17.360 --> 01:08:24.960]  When he has it made known to him by verified criminal affidavit that a crime has been committed,
[01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:29.640]  he has a duty to hold an examining trial.
[01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.800]  And this is a duty from which they may not shield themselves.
[01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:38.800]  And they're going to say, well, we're doing, we're not judges now.
[01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.480]  There are commissioners on this commission.
[01:08:41.480 --> 01:08:51.080]  Well, that's kind of like saying a policeman is not a policeman when he's off duty.
[01:08:51.080 --> 01:08:53.040]  And that's not exactly the case.
[01:08:53.040 --> 01:09:00.880]  There's nothing in the code that says that a judge is only a magistrate when he feels
[01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.160]  like being a magistrate.
[01:09:04.160 --> 01:09:09.000]  The judge becomes a magistrate when he has it made known to him that a crime has been
[01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  committed.
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:38.400]  The judge is the duty as a magistrate.
[01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:44.840]  Okay.
[01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:45.840]  We're back up.
[01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:46.840]  Sorry, guys.
[01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:47.840]  We had a little glitch there.
[01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.840]  Eddie, where did that drop?
[01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:51.840]  Actually, I couldn't tell you.
[01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.520]  I was noticing the boy lighting up when the call dropped.
[01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:55.520]  Okay.
[01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:02.240]  I was talking about these judges on this panel.
[01:10:02.240 --> 01:10:06.600]  They are on that panel because they are judges.
[01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:10.600]  If they weren't judges, they couldn't hold that position because there has to be two
[01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.160]  judges on the panel.
[01:10:13.160 --> 01:10:19.240]  When I send that judge a verified criminal asset, David, that invokes a very specific
[01:10:19.240 --> 01:10:22.840]  duty on the part of that judge.
[01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:28.720]  So the last set of complaints I sent to the last Judiciary of Conta complaint I sent,
[01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:38.200]  it contained criminal accusations but not in verified format and they decided, oh, well,
[01:10:38.200 --> 01:10:43.760]  this doesn't rise to the level of misconduct.
[01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:50.920]  This time they will get verified criminal affidavits and if they don't hold an examining
[01:10:50.920 --> 01:11:00.920]  trial and examine into the sufficiency of the allegation and then prepare an order in accordance
[01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:10.520]  with 16.17 code of criminal procedure and put that order in a envelope along with the
[01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:18.720]  complaints that I filed and seal the envelope and write their name across the seal and forward
[01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.840]  it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:28.920]  I'll be pursuing criminal complaints against them with the local district attorney who will
[01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:38.120]  obviously refuse to take the complaint against these judges or maybe he'll, the district
[01:11:38.120 --> 01:11:45.440]  attorney will refuse and maybe she will not because this particular district attorney
[01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:53.720]  at this particular time is facing an election and she runs into the reality of kin's four
[01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:54.720]  rules.
[01:11:54.720 --> 01:12:04.360]  First rule, everything is political and right now our prosecutor attorney is in a precarious
[01:12:04.360 --> 01:12:10.240]  political position so we may be able to apply her off the dime.
[01:12:10.240 --> 01:12:14.920]  If not, we get to beat her up good and help get her out of office and maybe get somebody
[01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.840]  in who won't want us to do that to them.
[01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:25.920]  Even if we don't, the judge has to look at the prospect of that happening to him all
[01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:31.360]  of the time we're beaten up the prosecuting attorney for not in petitioning for indictment
[01:12:31.360 --> 01:12:32.880]  of the judge.
[01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:42.880]  If we use the tools we have against the people who are supposed to be enforcing some of our
[01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:47.120]  other tools we may actually get those things to work.
[01:12:47.120 --> 01:12:54.360]  So this is my project for the next two years is to get this done.
[01:12:54.360 --> 01:13:00.080]  I've been 30-something years working up toward it and I'm going to be asking you folks to
[01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:03.880]  help but I'm going to try to make it as easy as possible for you to help me.
[01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:10.600]  We do have a caller on the line, we're going to go to Eric in Wisconsin.
[01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:13.720]  Eric, what do you have for us today?
[01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:19.880]  Well, I'm hoping I have the solution to all our problems.
[01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:26.720]  I'm excited about a lot of the projects we're working on but at the same time I am worried
[01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.280]  about the current situation.
[01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:33.200]  Okay, well let me introduce Eric.
[01:13:33.200 --> 01:13:41.040]  Eric is the master geek for Logos Radio.
[01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:45.920]  This is Eric who put up the website, built the website for Logos Radio.
[01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:47.920]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:52.640]  All right, well here's the thing.
[01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:57.680]  Not only the webmaster for that site but I have a new project that I'm excited about
[01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:05.880]  and it's called truthertools.com and I've been a high level programmer for over 20 years
[01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:12.400]  and I have some of my best tools that I'm implementing into this website.
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:18.240]  So I mean the stuff that I'm going to be able to offer, the average show, the average listener
[01:14:18.240 --> 01:14:24.480]  to a show like this is stuff that I would sell to corporations for thousands of dollars
[01:14:24.480 --> 01:14:27.640]  a month.
[01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:29.680]  The power behind it is amazing.
[01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:36.440]  In fact, most of it I won't even let the regular public see and that's why it's a invite-only
[01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:37.440]  website.
[01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:39.920]  So you need an invite code.
[01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.440]  If you don't have one, that's fine.
[01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:48.280]  There's a link that will allow you to kind of tell me who you are so that I can make
[01:14:48.280 --> 01:14:54.360]  sure that you're not some infiltrator or some troublemaker or like, you know, member
[01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:56.360]  of Elkhider or whatever.
[01:14:56.360 --> 01:14:57.760]  Oh, troublemaker?
[01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:04.040]  Oh, that's why I didn't get one.
[01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:08.040]  Well, here's the thing.
[01:15:08.040 --> 01:15:14.000]  Will you kind of give us kind of an idea of some of the tools that are in there and how
[01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  we can use them?
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.000]  Sure.
[01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:24.400]  Some of the stuff that I've got going currently, I have a keyword search booster and for those
[01:15:24.400 --> 01:15:30.080]  of you who are listening to the show that are familiar with Alex Jones, his big thing
[01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:37.760]  is he likes to get you all fired up and go to Google and type in certain search terms
[01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:44.040]  so that those are the top search terms of the day and it also influences the, you know,
[01:15:44.040 --> 01:15:49.040]  when you go to a search engine and you type in words, it gives you suggestions as you're
[01:15:49.040 --> 01:15:50.040]  typing.
[01:15:50.040 --> 01:15:57.120]  It also influences that, too, and it helps with the search engine optimization side
[01:15:57.120 --> 01:15:58.120]  of things.
[01:15:58.120 --> 01:16:04.520]  And I wrote a script that you can pretty much brutalize that whole system, if you want,
[01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:09.840]  so where you can go in and it looks like, you know, 100,000 people are searching for
[01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:17.360]  the same search term versus, you know, just manually entering it and something that, you
[01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:22.640]  know, I wouldn't consider on a normal, everyday basis, you know, something that I would do,
[01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:27.040]  but considering the fact that, you know, we're in a war of information and the truth
[01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:33.360]  needs to get out there, this is a weapon and I only want people on our side to have that
[01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:34.360]  weapon.
[01:16:34.360 --> 01:16:37.360]  So I can hear the buffer music, I can hold it for the second half.
[01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:42.960]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deb. Steve and Daddy Craig, we have a radio.
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[01:19:29.400 --> 01:19:41.960]  We're talking to Eric in Wisconsin and he has some tools for us.
[01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:49.960]  What are the tools do you have that we can use to enhance our internet experience?
[01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:56.400]  Well, we've got a lot of things and a lot even more in development.
[01:19:56.400 --> 01:20:04.640]  One of the main tools that I'm excited about is the GeoTool where I can resolve an IP address
[01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:10.160]  and basically put a pin on the map based on the longitude and latitude.
[01:20:10.160 --> 01:20:19.480]  I know it sounds like it sounds like not a big deal but the thing is I'm not using Google
[01:20:19.480 --> 01:20:23.240]  or Yahoo or any of these other APIs for that.
[01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:27.560]  This is a database that actually I have.
[01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:28.560]  Are you guys still there?
[01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:29.560]  Yes.
[01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:30.560]  Oh, yeah.
[01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:31.560]  Yeah.
[01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:34.520]  I'm going to expand on that.
[01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:40.720]  Based on longitude and latitude, I have another script I'm working on that I can use the algorithms
[01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:48.600]  to then, if given a plot, whether it's longitude and latitude or whether it's given the zip
[01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:56.280]  code or the city, state, whatever, I can then generate a zip code or radius for that and
[01:20:56.280 --> 01:21:03.440]  then offer that as a service to people who are trying to make the world a better place.
[01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:08.840]  As we're in the private sector, I would charge thousands of dollars a month for this.
[01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:12.560]  One of the benefits I can see of this is when we have people that are trying to network
[01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:18.880]  together to help each other with court watching, to put together groups for doing legal study
[01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:24.600]  and things of that nature, this gives them the way to find each other and network together.
[01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:28.600]  Provided of course, we let them opt in or out of exposing their information that way
[01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:32.760]  but yeah, that would be a big beneficial tool for us in that regard.
[01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:33.760]  Well, here's the thing.
[01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:38.600]  It's an invite-only website so this database is my database.
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:45.320]  This is in public information, once you become a member, you have to go through a process.
[01:21:45.320 --> 01:21:50.720]  You either are invited or you ask to be invited and then I have to go check out and make sure
[01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:56.000]  that you're not some government agent or somebody infiltrating and then of course,
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.840]  I will monitor a lot of this stuff but at the same time, there's a lot of groups such
[01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:10.080]  as We Are Change or Oath Keepers and maybe the Tea Party, I'm not really a supporter
[01:22:10.080 --> 01:22:12.080]  of the left or the right.
[01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:18.360]  I'm nonpartisan but for those people out there that want to gather, there are tools
[01:22:18.360 --> 01:22:25.280]  out there such as meetup.com but they charge so much so I'm going to be developing more
[01:22:25.280 --> 01:22:33.440]  tools with intruded tools that allow that to be way more expanded because I have phone
[01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:39.400]  tools that allow me to not only send emails to these certain group members but I can also
[01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:45.600]  send text messages so if there's something going on and there's an emergency of some
[01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:51.840]  kind and you only have maybe 10 minutes to get a hold of your group and say, we need
[01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:57.720]  to meet here for this reason, bring the camcorders, bring your recording devices or whatever,
[01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:07.800]  your cameras and then they can do that through a text message so it's high tech tools because
[01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:13.600]  the tyranny that we're facing is high tech so if we don't become high tech, it's like
[01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:16.840]  walking into a gunfight with a knife.
[01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:26.160]  Yeah, and there's a movie about bringing a knife to a gunfight but these are, what
[01:23:26.160 --> 01:23:35.000]  I find that the one thing that I seldom have is court watchers and witnesses.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:42.400]  When I go to the courts it's hard to find people who can go with me and one of the primary
[01:23:42.400 --> 01:23:50.120]  values of that is, is you keep the other side from doing something stupid.
[01:23:50.120 --> 01:23:55.840]  Granted, I can go after them and sue them and file criminal complaints and do all this
[01:23:55.840 --> 01:24:05.080]  other stuff but generally we have all the fights we can get to and I try to pick my
[01:24:05.080 --> 01:24:12.880]  battles very careful so that I don't have these extra fights and if, if I'm not trying
[01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:19.160]  to start a fight with a jurisdiction, it's like if I'm going to the police department
[01:24:19.160 --> 01:24:23.760]  and I want them to do something and I don't want to have any kind of fight with this police
[01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:32.400]  department, if I have a few witnesses with me, then they tend to be a lot more careful.
[01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:41.600]  If it's just you, it doesn't matter what you say or what you do, they will lie, lie, dogs.
[01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:47.920]  One of the ways I coax them into telling the truth is I tell them I'm an old combat veteran,
[01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.120]  my ears don't work so good.
[01:24:50.120 --> 01:24:55.520]  Will you look and speak clearly into my pen, please?
[01:24:55.520 --> 01:25:03.400]  Yeah, they get all excited and then they find out I don't have any recorder in, a pen recorder
[01:25:03.400 --> 01:25:11.200]  in my pocket but I don't tell them about the digit recorder I do have in the other pocket
[01:25:11.200 --> 01:25:16.920]  but that's just to keep them from doing something stupid and if I have witnesses it's a whole
[01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:24.080]  lot easier because now it's not my word against theirs, now it's our word against theirs.
[01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:33.520]  So, that's going to be the last set, so do you have anything else for us?
[01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:40.120]  Yeah, actually I'm looking forward to a lot of these projects and I am for hire and at
[01:25:40.120 --> 01:25:46.440]  the same time, check out truth-it-tools.com, I'm not charging, I don't know, I'm charging
[01:25:46.440 --> 01:25:51.520]  what, six bucks for the year, I mean that's just to keep the lights on and the irony of
[01:25:51.520 --> 01:26:01.320]  the whole thing is today I received my five-day pay-or-vacate notice from my landlord so this
[01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:06.080]  company and if you go to truth-it-tools.com the information is there, they're willing
[01:26:06.080 --> 01:26:14.200]  to evict me in my yes day and my 13-year-old son and my three-month-old daughter five days
[01:26:14.200 --> 01:26:15.200]  before Christmas.
[01:26:15.200 --> 01:26:25.480]  Okay, I heard her in the background and I'm a grandpa and I could tell something was wrong
[01:26:25.480 --> 01:26:36.200]  with that baby, she doesn't have enough chocolate, yeah I could hear it in her voice, grandpa
[01:26:36.200 --> 01:26:46.800]  knows these things, but we'll take, I just got something in today, we'll be able to
[01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:49.800]  take care of you Eric, we'll keep you in place.
[01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:55.160]  Yeah, there's a check-in widget on truth-it-tools.com for anybody that wants to, you know, whether
[01:26:55.160 --> 01:27:00.720]  you want to be a member or if you just want to help out somebody who's done a lot of things
[01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:07.880]  because, you know, I brought Richard Gage on a 15-city Midwest tour talking about, you
[01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:14.320]  know, he's the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth and we paid for all of that
[01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:16.440]  and took care of that.
[01:27:16.440 --> 01:27:23.920]  I'm bringing Professor Griff next time around, we formed a student organization with the
[01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:29.200]  University of Madison, we've had Jim Fetzer over there a few times, I'm good friends with
[01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:37.520]  Kevin Barrett and I do a lot of activism and I'm putting my faith in God at this point
[01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:43.120]  because I believe that the listener knows that there's a lot of stuff going on in the
[01:27:43.120 --> 01:27:47.640]  world and there's only a few handful of people doing anything about it and we need to support
[01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:53.960]  those people and those people are me, those people are, you know, Randy and Deborah and
[01:27:53.960 --> 01:28:00.400]  Eddie and the rest of the hosts that have shows on the network, you know, we are changed
[01:28:00.400 --> 01:28:06.480]  chapters, it's the old keepers chapters, you know, the people out there that are willing
[01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:11.680]  to stand in the cold and handle fires and DVDs and do what they've got to do to make
[01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.680]  this world a better place.
[01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:23.920]  Yes, and in that context, let me remind everybody that in this holiday season don't
[01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.920]  forget about Randy's beer fund.
[01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.920]  Gotta get that plug in there.
[01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:37.720]  I'll tell you why, but we get my rent paid this month, I got five days to come up with
[01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:41.920]  a thousand dollars, we can do that, Randy, I'll buy you a cake.
[01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:43.920]  We'll hang out.
[01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:48.920]  Yeah, we'll take care of that, we'll get that taken care of.
[01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:57.640]  Okay, there was another issue I wanted to go to, now Eric is going to be building the
[01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:04.640]  Barg Reavage and Judicial Conduct sites and we hope to have a good engine built for the
[01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:10.280]  engine he's putting together to drive those sites, we'll also be using it a number of
[01:29:10.280 --> 01:29:11.280]  other sites.
[01:29:11.280 --> 01:29:18.120]  I've been a long time getting this put together and now I can actually see the light at the
[01:29:18.120 --> 01:29:26.120]  end of the tunnel, when we will begin to put tools in your hands that will allow you to
[01:29:26.120 --> 01:29:32.120]  take the law as it exists, all this law, Eddie and I and Deborah have been talking about it,
[01:29:32.120 --> 01:29:38.120]  when you'll be able to access this law and use it to your advantage without having to
[01:29:38.120 --> 01:29:40.120]  memorize all the code.
[01:29:40.120 --> 01:29:44.120]  Yeah, I'll be more than happy to stand on that after the break.
[01:29:44.120 --> 01:29:51.120]  Okay, we'll be right back, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Steven, Jamie Craig, give us a call
[01:29:51.120 --> 01:30:00.120]  512-646-1984.
[01:30:00.120 --> 01:30:03.120]  Top 10 reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing.
[01:30:03.120 --> 01:30:06.120]  Reason number 10, what is on the surveillance tapes?
[01:30:06.120 --> 01:30:09.120]  There were many video surveillance cameras that recorded the morning of the bombing,
[01:30:09.120 --> 01:30:12.120]  yet a few of these that have been released do not show what transpired with the rider
[01:30:12.120 --> 01:30:13.120]  truck at the Murrowbilly.
[01:30:13.120 --> 01:30:16.120]  Most recently, the government has claimed that all of the cameras that were in different
[01:30:16.120 --> 01:30:20.120]  buildings and maintained by different businesses were all having their tapes changed at the
[01:30:20.120 --> 01:30:22.120]  exact same time, 9.02 a.m.
[01:30:22.120 --> 01:30:25.120]  This is insulting to the memory of those who perish in the bombing.
[01:30:25.120 --> 01:30:27.120]  What is being hidden from us?
[01:30:27.120 --> 01:30:32.120]  For more information, please go to okcbombingtruth.com.
[01:30:32.120 --> 01:30:35.120]  Old enough to remember air raid drills?
[01:30:35.120 --> 01:30:40.120]  We all remember fire drills and being from LA, I remember earthquake drills, but now
[01:30:40.120 --> 01:30:42.120]  kids are getting terror drills.
[01:30:42.120 --> 01:30:45.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back with details in a moment.
[01:31:13.120 --> 01:31:19.120]  Believe it or not, kindergarten and first grade students are now required by law to
[01:31:19.120 --> 01:31:24.120]  participate in monthly terrorism drills, including active shooter lockdowns, bomb
[01:31:24.120 --> 01:31:26.120]  threats and evacuation exercises.
[01:31:26.120 --> 01:31:29.120]  Active shooter lockdowns in kindergarten?
[01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:33.120]  Do we really need mock SWAT teams traumatizing a generation of youngsters?
[01:31:33.120 --> 01:31:38.120]  If anything, these drills will just give terrorists a blueprint to increase casualties
[01:31:38.120 --> 01:31:39.120]  and plot their escape.
[01:31:39.120 --> 01:31:44.120]  Scaring kids into seeing terrorists under every rock is a bad psychological move for our
[01:31:44.120 --> 01:31:48.120]  nation, but it doesn't show funding for the wasteful liberty stealing war on terror.
[01:31:48.120 --> 01:31:53.120]  It also guarantees that our kids will grow up into fear subdued, compliant adults.
[01:31:53.120 --> 01:32:10.120]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:24.120 --> 01:32:26.120]  Okay, we're back.
[01:32:26.120 --> 01:32:30.120]  Randy Kelsen, Dr. Steve and Dr. Craig.
[01:32:30.120 --> 01:32:32.120]  Rue LeBlanc Radio.
[01:32:32.120 --> 01:32:38.120]  We're talking to Eric in Wisconsin.
[01:32:38.120 --> 01:32:43.120]  And we were talking about the bar grievance and judicial conduct sites that we're going
[01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:45.120]  to bring up here pretty quickly.
[01:32:45.120 --> 01:32:53.120]  I have been doing a lot of work on a forensic analysis tool.
[01:32:53.120 --> 01:32:59.120]  I know we have a lot of companies out there doing forensic analysis.
[01:32:59.120 --> 01:33:06.120]  And I've looked at them, and for the most part, I've been unsatisfied with what I've
[01:33:06.120 --> 01:33:07.120]  found.
[01:33:07.120 --> 01:33:14.120]  One of the things that concerned me is there are companies out there selling forensic analysis
[01:33:14.120 --> 01:33:22.120]  of a mortgage that it gives you this little booklet, and it tells you the codes and such
[01:33:22.120 --> 01:33:30.120]  that the individuals have, that the lender has violated, but it doesn't give you any
[01:33:30.120 --> 01:33:32.120]  remedy.
[01:33:32.120 --> 01:33:37.120]  I've had people bring me the booklets, and I've looked them over, and I said, okay, so
[01:33:37.120 --> 01:33:38.120]  what?
[01:33:38.120 --> 01:33:43.120]  Yeah, they violated these codes, but what is your remedy?
[01:33:43.120 --> 01:33:49.120]  First, what harm does it create, and then what is your remedy for the harm?
[01:33:49.120 --> 01:33:54.120]  Sometimes you have harms for which there are no remedies.
[01:33:54.120 --> 01:34:04.120]  Sometimes you have rules and statutes that give a statutory prescription, but they have
[01:34:04.120 --> 01:34:06.120]  no remedy if you violate it.
[01:34:06.120 --> 01:34:17.120]  So we try to put together a questionnaire that will do a good forensic analysis of things
[01:34:17.120 --> 01:34:27.120]  that go to causes of action, of things that the lender has done that will give you a claim
[01:34:27.120 --> 01:34:29.120]  back against the lender.
[01:34:29.120 --> 01:34:38.120]  For the most part, we expect this to be free or next to nothing, just enough to cover costs.
[01:34:38.120 --> 01:34:45.120]  This will give someone a way to go in and go through the questions, and the questions
[01:34:45.120 --> 01:34:51.120]  will go to most every issue that we've come across.
[01:34:51.120 --> 01:34:57.120]  This will be the first real implementation of the litigation engine.
[01:34:57.120 --> 01:35:04.120]  It's something I've been working towards for a long time because I do this radio show,
[01:35:04.120 --> 01:35:11.120]  and I have people coming on the show with all kinds of great ideas and things that we
[01:35:11.120 --> 01:35:18.120]  can do, and it sounds great at the time, but then we go on to something else and then
[01:35:18.120 --> 01:35:24.120]  something else and something else, and I lose a lot of those things.
[01:35:24.120 --> 01:35:32.120]  And a few years ago, I had an issue come up where someone asked me if I knew what a Frank's
[01:35:32.120 --> 01:35:37.120]  hearing was, and I remembered hearing about it, but I didn't remember what it was.
[01:35:37.120 --> 01:35:41.120]  And after the show, I went and looked it up and said, holy mackerel, how could I have
[01:35:41.120 --> 01:35:42.120]  ever forgot that?
[01:35:42.120 --> 01:35:48.120]  It was such a powerful tool, but I totally forgot about it.
[01:35:48.120 --> 01:35:51.120]  And that's when I said, we've got to fix this.
[01:35:51.120 --> 01:35:57.120]  We need a way of putting all of these things in place.
[01:35:57.120 --> 01:36:06.120]  Put them in the place they go and give you a structure so that you can go into this system
[01:36:06.120 --> 01:36:14.120]  and go to the place that you're at in whatever issue you're involved in.
[01:36:14.120 --> 01:36:22.120]  And any of these issues or these remedies that are indicated will be made available.
[01:36:22.120 --> 01:36:26.120]  And that's what the questionnaires decide to do.
[01:36:26.120 --> 01:36:32.120]  And the reason I'm bringing it up to you, I had spoken to this a couple times on the
[01:36:32.120 --> 01:36:36.120]  air, but I haven't gotten any feedback yet.
[01:36:36.120 --> 01:36:43.120]  I would like any of you who were interested in helping with this project to go to the
[01:36:43.120 --> 01:36:44.120]  questionnaire.
[01:36:44.120 --> 01:36:46.120]  It's not completed yet.
[01:36:46.120 --> 01:36:49.120]  It's not even in beta format yet, actually.
[01:36:49.120 --> 01:36:53.120]  I have primarily the questions.
[01:36:53.120 --> 01:37:01.120]  I don't have even a check box or a place to put in answers on a lot of them.
[01:37:01.120 --> 01:37:10.120]  And I've left a lot of it out deliberately because this is such a complex set of questions.
[01:37:10.120 --> 01:37:16.120]  I may be asking the same question in several different places.
[01:37:16.120 --> 01:37:26.120]  And part of what I need is people to go through my questionnaire and tell me where it is not
[01:37:26.120 --> 01:37:28.120]  intuitive.
[01:37:28.120 --> 01:37:35.120]  Tell me where I create a question in your mind that I don't answer.
[01:37:35.120 --> 01:37:38.120]  Because if I do that, I've lost you.
[01:37:38.120 --> 01:37:42.120]  I've attracted this question praise on your awareness.
[01:37:42.120 --> 01:37:47.120]  And you don't have enough awareness left to pay attention to what is going on in the
[01:37:47.120 --> 01:37:48.120]  questionnaire.
[01:37:48.120 --> 01:37:50.120]  So I lose your concentration.
[01:37:50.120 --> 01:37:52.120]  I want to know when I create questions.
[01:37:52.120 --> 01:37:55.120]  It's okay to create a question.
[01:37:55.120 --> 01:37:58.120]  As long as I know I've done it.
[01:37:58.120 --> 01:38:03.120]  If I create a question in your mind, I need to answer it immediately.
[01:38:03.120 --> 01:38:09.120]  Or I need to answer it just before the question comes up.
[01:38:09.120 --> 01:38:17.120]  So you can find the opening page to this at aidocs.com.
[01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:21.120]  That's aidocs.com.
[01:38:21.120 --> 01:38:41.120]  And that will kind of walk you through all of these.
[01:38:41.120 --> 01:38:43.120]  And one other thing.
[01:38:43.120 --> 01:38:48.120]  If you have a mortgage issue.
[01:38:48.120 --> 01:38:54.120]  Or especially if you've had a bad experience with a mortgage.
[01:38:54.120 --> 01:39:01.120]  As you're going through this, look for issues that I haven't put in there.
[01:39:01.120 --> 01:39:05.120]  Look for things that happened to you that I didn't address.
[01:39:05.120 --> 01:39:11.120]  Things that were fraudulent or improper.
[01:39:11.120 --> 01:39:18.120]  And ways that you were cheated or mistreated that I don't have in here.
[01:39:18.120 --> 01:39:29.120]  And if you come across one of those, create me a set of questions that would develop that issue.
[01:39:29.120 --> 01:39:36.120]  If you were sitting in a room and I was trying to get information of what questions would I have to ask.
[01:39:36.120 --> 01:39:45.120]  And the most important one, what's the first question that I would have to ask that will point at this issue.
[01:39:45.120 --> 01:39:48.120]  So that I lead naturally into the issue.
[01:39:48.120 --> 01:39:55.120]  If you respond positively to this question, then that says we need to go to this issue and develop it.
[01:39:55.120 --> 01:40:00.120]  And then I'll take that first question as a starting point.
[01:40:00.120 --> 01:40:04.120]  We'll figure out where to set it in the questionnaire.
[01:40:04.120 --> 01:40:10.120]  So that when you answer it, if you answer it positively, then the system will jump to a separate page.
[01:40:10.120 --> 01:40:17.120]  And we'll flesh out this particular issue, then it'll come back and keep going.
[01:40:17.120 --> 01:40:25.120]  By doing this this way, what we create is an expert engine.
[01:40:25.120 --> 01:40:31.120]  The system will never, ever forget to ask that question.
[01:40:31.120 --> 01:40:37.120]  If somebody follows this decision tree down through this questionnaire,
[01:40:37.120 --> 01:40:44.120]  because almost no two people will follow the same route because different things happen.
[01:40:44.120 --> 01:40:52.120]  But if you get to this point in the questionnaire, then in order for you to get here,
[01:40:52.120 --> 01:40:59.120]  I know exactly all of the questions you had to answer and how you had to answer to get here.
[01:40:59.120 --> 01:41:07.120]  So the system knows what the position you're in at this point.
[01:41:07.120 --> 01:41:16.120]  And there will be questions that we want people, that people in this position will be subject to this particular harm.
[01:41:16.120 --> 01:41:20.120]  So it tells us exactly where to put the question.
[01:41:20.120 --> 01:41:24.120]  So that it always leads to addressing this issue.
[01:41:24.120 --> 01:41:29.120]  And the system will never, ever forget to ask it.
[01:41:29.120 --> 01:41:39.120]  And each one we add will make the system that much more sophisticated.
[01:41:39.120 --> 01:41:43.120]  So go ahead, Eric.
[01:41:43.120 --> 01:41:58.120]  It's not going to be perfect out the gate. It's going to be a beta test period in which we work the bugs out.
[01:41:58.120 --> 01:42:10.120]  And the feedback from the users is going to be crucial in order to get a much greater understanding of the bigger picture of what we want for a final outcome.
[01:42:10.120 --> 01:42:17.120]  Exactly. We have most of the basic pieces in place.
[01:42:17.120 --> 01:42:28.120]  And in putting together the questionnaire, it actually demonstrated, it pointed me at what I should be doing.
[01:42:28.120 --> 01:42:39.120]  One of the main things it pointed me at was that I needed to go to the Mike Mears method.
[01:42:39.120 --> 01:42:53.120]  The Mike Mears method in addressing the lender as if he were a debt collector.
[01:42:53.120 --> 01:43:02.120]  Because it went to, I did a show once with a guy and he said something that really stuck with me.
[01:43:02.120 --> 01:43:06.120]  Never stipulate to anything.
[01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:14.120]  And it was one of those things that I'd heard before and somehow it didn't stick with me.
[01:43:14.120 --> 01:43:18.120]  And after the show I thought about it and said, holy mackerel, he is right.
[01:43:18.120 --> 01:43:24.120]  We have been stipulating to the existence of a debt instrument.
[01:43:24.120 --> 01:43:27.120]  To the existence of a lien document.
[01:43:27.120 --> 01:43:31.120]  To the existence of this guy's agency standing in capacity.
[01:43:31.120 --> 01:43:34.120]  We just stepped right over that issue.
[01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:37.120]  The questionnaire told me where to put it.
[01:43:37.120 --> 01:43:44.120]  And now, when I come back, I'll talk about how we address that first before we go to anything else.
[01:43:44.120 --> 01:43:46.120]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens and Craig.
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[01:46:22.120 --> 01:46:25.120]  Okay, we're back.
[01:46:25.120 --> 01:46:29.120]  We have to see the great Craig with the radio.
[01:46:29.120 --> 01:46:42.120]  And we're talking about what we're doing now with the foreclosure issue.
[01:46:42.120 --> 01:46:47.120]  Okay, we're talking about what we're doing with the foreclosure issue.
[01:46:47.120 --> 01:47:06.120]  And we're building a tool that will allow somebody to go through this set of questions and not only will it develop all of the issues that are present in their particular case,
[01:47:06.120 --> 01:47:23.120]  but also designing it as a teaching tool because there's something about questions that ring in the mind in a way that a statement doesn't.
[01:47:23.120 --> 01:47:35.120]  We get on here and we talk about all of these things that are going on and you hear it, but it doesn't stick in the mind the way a question will.
[01:47:35.120 --> 01:47:40.120]  You can hear something and you'll have to hear it several times before it really sticks in there.
[01:47:40.120 --> 01:47:52.120]  By asking a question, the question has a way of invoking the attention in a way that gets your focus on something.
[01:47:52.120 --> 01:48:01.120]  You know, you play at a party or something, you introduced someone and five minutes later you don't remember what their name was.
[01:48:01.120 --> 01:48:07.120]  And it's not because you forgot, it's because you never really heard it in the first place.
[01:48:07.120 --> 01:48:24.120]  And I had a book on how to remember names, but the crux of it was a mental discipline that caused you to focus directly on the name.
[01:48:24.120 --> 01:48:35.120]  Once you did that, you wouldn't forget it. And questions are extremely powerful in creating that kind of effect.
[01:48:35.120 --> 01:48:41.120]  We'll ask you a question and you'll think, why did he ask me a thing like that?
[01:48:41.120 --> 01:48:50.120]  And then when you go in, look a little deeper, it will demonstrate an aspect of the issue you have no clue existed.
[01:48:50.120 --> 01:48:59.120]  And this is what we're hoping to do is get people a good general understanding of what's going on and how to adjudicate it.
[01:48:59.120 --> 01:49:06.120]  And that's what was important about treating the lender like a debt collector initially.
[01:49:06.120 --> 01:49:15.120]  It was these issues that we hear about in different places, but somehow we don't get them integrated.
[01:49:15.120 --> 01:49:23.120]  So now we're getting them integrated. Now we stick relate to nothing.
[01:49:23.120 --> 01:49:26.120]  Somebody sends me a bill, want me to pay this bill.
[01:49:26.120 --> 01:49:31.120]  First thing I say is, who are you? I don't know you.
[01:49:31.120 --> 01:49:38.120]  And we had someone go to court recently and he was concerned about the judge asking him about the mortgage.
[01:49:38.120 --> 01:49:46.120]  He sued the law firm during the collections. And he said, who the heck are you?
[01:49:46.120 --> 01:49:49.120]  I don't know you. I never entered into the contract with you.
[01:49:49.120 --> 01:49:53.120]  You claim you're an agent for Wells Fargo. I never entered into the contract with Wells Fargo.
[01:49:53.120 --> 01:49:56.120]  I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:49:56.120 --> 01:50:03.120]  And we coached him that if he goes into this hearing and the judge asks him, well, didn't you get a mortgage on your house?
[01:50:03.120 --> 01:50:09.120]  I don't know anything about a mortgage on my house.
[01:50:09.120 --> 01:50:16.120]  Well, aren't you, didn't you pay money on a mortgage? I don't know anything about a mortgage on my house.
[01:50:16.120 --> 01:50:28.120]  Stipulate to nothing. Just because the judge asks you a question doesn't mean you have to answer it.
[01:50:28.120 --> 01:50:34.120]  And just because an attorney asks you a question, it doesn't mean you have to answer it.
[01:50:34.120 --> 01:50:47.120]  And frankly, for me, that was a real hard thing to get over when I was going in, going after public officials.
[01:50:47.120 --> 01:50:53.120]  And one of them would ask me a question.
[01:50:53.120 --> 01:51:00.120]  I would be back to school when the teacher asked you a question you had to answer.
[01:51:00.120 --> 01:51:07.120]  When the policeman asks you a question, you feel like you have to answer.
[01:51:07.120 --> 01:51:17.120]  And frankly, the arguing that you don't have to answer is an answer.
[01:51:17.120 --> 01:51:26.120]  The hardest thing for me to do is not respond to the question at all.
[01:51:26.120 --> 01:51:32.120]  Just go on to something else. Ignore it. Try that sometime.
[01:51:32.120 --> 01:51:41.120]  Try that when you're talking to someone and they ask you a question. Try to not respond.
[01:51:41.120 --> 01:51:48.120]  See how difficult that is. And they use that against us. The court will use it against you.
[01:51:48.120 --> 01:51:51.120]  The attorneys on the other side will use it against you.
[01:51:51.120 --> 01:51:59.120]  So we're trying to develop a discipline and understanding of your position and a discipline to stay with it.
[01:51:59.120 --> 01:52:10.120]  And one of the first things that we need to help people understand is never stipulate to anything.
[01:52:10.120 --> 01:52:16.120]  This is not normal conversation. This is law.
[01:52:16.120 --> 01:52:30.120]  And in law, if a person makes a claim, the person against whom the claim is made has no duty to disprove the claim.
[01:52:30.120 --> 01:52:42.120]  They merely need to, they have to deny the claim, otherwise they waive their denial.
[01:52:42.120 --> 01:52:45.120]  But all they have to do is deny the claim.
[01:52:45.120 --> 01:52:52.120]  Then the onus is on the other side to prove up the claim that they made.
[01:52:52.120 --> 01:53:01.120]  So keeping that in mind, when the lender sends you a presentment,
[01:53:01.120 --> 01:53:09.120]  and that's what the Uniform Commercial Code calls the Dunning Letter or bill or demand for payment is a presentment,
[01:53:09.120 --> 01:53:23.120]  whether it states or not, it implies that there is a promise to pay or an obligation on your part to some party.
[01:53:23.120 --> 01:53:34.120]  And this person making the claim has the authority to enforce the obligation.
[01:53:34.120 --> 01:53:41.120]  Well, the first thing you say is, what obligation? I don't know anything about an obligation.
[01:53:41.120 --> 01:53:46.120]  Now you may be thinking, well, I wrote a mortgage with Wells Fargo.
[01:53:46.120 --> 01:53:53.120]  And this attorney here, he claims to be collecting for Wells Fargo.
[01:53:53.120 --> 01:54:00.120]  So Wells Fargo is the holder of the note. Well, maybe.
[01:54:00.120 --> 01:54:04.120]  But that's a presumption. You don't know that.
[01:54:04.120 --> 01:54:16.120]  Most people think that the person who demands payment is the person to whom the obligation is owed.
[01:54:16.120 --> 01:54:20.120]  That is a presumption that may or may not be true.
[01:54:20.120 --> 01:54:24.120]  For the most part, it is not true.
[01:54:24.120 --> 01:54:34.120]  For the most part, the actual holder of the promise to pay is never the one doing the collecting.
[01:54:34.120 --> 01:54:38.120]  They hire contractors to do that.
[01:54:38.120 --> 01:54:45.120]  And if you wrote a mortgage through Wells Fargo in the last 15 years,
[01:54:45.120 --> 01:54:55.120]  I can assure you that immediately after consummation of the note, Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America,
[01:54:55.120 --> 01:55:01.120]  immediately after you signed the note, they sold it.
[01:55:01.120 --> 01:55:05.120]  They sold somebody else, so they no longer own it.
[01:55:05.120 --> 01:55:09.120]  But they still kept demanding payments, and you're thinking that they're the ones that own the note.
[01:55:09.120 --> 01:55:10.120]  No, they don't.
[01:55:10.120 --> 01:55:15.120]  They're just a contractor for the person that owns the note.
[01:55:15.120 --> 01:55:20.120]  So, someone comes to you and says,
[01:55:20.120 --> 01:55:26.120]  you have this mortgage, you have to pay the X amount of money, or I'm going to foreclose on your property.
[01:55:26.120 --> 01:55:32.120]  Well, how do you know that person didn't go down to the county court records and look up a lien,
[01:55:32.120 --> 01:55:39.120]  and it shows a lien to this company, Wells Fargo, Chase, some bank.
[01:55:39.120 --> 01:55:43.120]  And then they send you a letter saying, hey, I am the servicer for this account,
[01:55:43.120 --> 01:55:49.120]  and you need to send your payments to this address.
[01:55:49.120 --> 01:55:52.120]  Now, how do you know they're not just a con man?
[01:55:52.120 --> 01:55:55.120]  You send them the payments.
[01:55:55.120 --> 01:55:56.120]  You don't hear anything.
[01:55:56.120 --> 01:55:57.120]  You send them the next payment.
[01:55:57.120 --> 01:55:58.120]  You don't hear anything.
[01:55:58.120 --> 01:56:06.120]  And then you get a notice from the real servicer, hey, you had been paying me.
[01:56:06.120 --> 01:56:10.120]  Yeah, I was directed to pay it to this guy.
[01:56:10.120 --> 01:56:12.120]  And they would say, who's he?
[01:56:12.120 --> 01:56:17.120]  And the banks have been so sloppy in their record keeping.
[01:56:17.120 --> 01:56:21.120]  They don't, for the most part, know who owns it.
[01:56:21.120 --> 01:56:26.120]  So, when the servicing changes, the records are so poor that they just get lost.
[01:56:26.120 --> 01:56:30.120]  You could pay the wrong person for 20 years.
[01:56:30.120 --> 01:56:36.120]  And then go to get quite tired and they'll say, wait a minute, this guy never owned this to start with.
[01:56:36.120 --> 01:56:38.120]  He was just a scam artist.
[01:56:38.120 --> 01:56:48.120]  So, first thing you need to do is make the person who claims to have standing,
[01:56:48.120 --> 01:56:53.120]  agency standing capacity, prove it.
[01:56:53.120 --> 01:57:01.120]  And that goes to the debt validation issue and this added a whole element to what we're doing with foreclosures.
[01:57:01.120 --> 01:57:06.120]  We have a couple of callers on the board, so I'm going to stop running my mouth at the moment.
[01:57:06.120 --> 01:57:15.120]  And I'm going to go to, I think, Eric dropped off, so I'm going to go to Mike in Texas.
[01:57:15.120 --> 01:57:17.120]  Mike, what do you have for us?
[01:57:17.120 --> 01:57:19.120]  Hi, Randy.
[01:57:19.120 --> 01:57:22.120]  Let's see, got a couple quick questions.
[01:57:22.120 --> 01:57:27.120]  Let's see, this goes back to a charge.
[01:57:27.120 --> 01:57:34.120]  It goes back about a year ago where I was arrested for having an audio recorder.
[01:57:34.120 --> 01:57:39.120]  And I hit, you know, they arrested me.
[01:57:39.120 --> 01:57:43.120]  Wait, hold on, hold on, an audio recorder?
[01:57:43.120 --> 01:57:46.120]  Yes.
[01:57:46.120 --> 01:57:50.120]  I tried to enter Travis County Courthouse.
[01:57:50.120 --> 01:57:53.120]  Someone had asked me to be a court watcher.
[01:57:53.120 --> 01:57:56.120]  Oh, this is that Mike, okay.
[01:57:56.120 --> 01:57:59.120]  Oh, hi. Hi, Randy.
[01:57:59.120 --> 01:58:05.120]  So, I had an audio recorder around my neck and things in my pocket.
[01:58:05.120 --> 01:58:09.120]  And so, I had everything scanned, I went through, but I wore a belt.
[01:58:09.120 --> 01:58:12.120]  Tell me to wait until the music comes inside.
[01:58:12.120 --> 01:58:14.120]  Yes, yes, okay.
[01:58:14.120 --> 01:58:19.120]  And we're going to the top of the hour break, so we've been a few minutes.
[01:58:19.120 --> 01:58:24.120]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens at Craig River Radio.
[01:58:24.120 --> 01:58:28.120]  Our call in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:58:28.120 --> 01:58:31.120]  Give us a call with a question or a comment.
[01:58:31.120 --> 01:58:35.120]  We're talking to Mike in Texas.
[01:58:35.120 --> 01:58:42.120]  This is the exact kind of thing that we need to use these tools to end.
[01:58:42.120 --> 01:58:46.120]  We'll pick this up on the other side, Mike.
[01:58:46.120 --> 01:58:50.120]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens at Craig River Radio.
[01:58:50.120 --> 01:59:19.120]  We'll be right back.
[01:59:20.120 --> 01:59:30.120]  We'll be right back.
[01:59:50.120 --> 02:00:00.120]  We'll be right back.