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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.640]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:04.640 --> 00:08.680]  The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights Thursday criticized the arrest and assault
[00:08.680 --> 00:14.080]  of journalists during Occupy Wall Street protests in New York and other U.S. cities.
[00:14.080 --> 00:18.800]  The Commission called for authorities to guarantee and protect the practice of journalism at
[00:18.800 --> 00:20.680]  public demonstrations.
[00:20.680 --> 00:25.120]  Three journalists covering the Occupy movement have been assaulted by police since October
[00:25.120 --> 00:28.200]  and dozens have been arrested.
[00:28.200 --> 00:34.520]  The U.S. Army's hypersonic weapon prototype flew its maiden test flight Thursday at 3,800
[00:34.520 --> 00:40.040]  miles per hour five times the speed of sound paving the way for the capability to strike
[00:40.040 --> 00:43.320]  targets anywhere on Earth in an hour.
[00:43.320 --> 00:48.480]  An unmanned aircraft that can travel at 20 times the speed of sound will take off from
[00:48.480 --> 00:53.440]  an air force base in California for a test flight Wednesday.
[00:53.440 --> 00:58.800]  Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Herman Cain Thursday denounced the Occupy
[00:58.800 --> 01:03.760]  Wall Street movement as it celebrated its second month anniversary with protests in
[01:03.760 --> 01:05.480]  cities across the country.
[01:05.480 --> 01:10.480]  The scandal-mired Cain accused protesters of trying to destroy the greatest nation in
[01:10.480 --> 01:13.600]  the world after disrupting morning commuters.
[01:13.600 --> 01:18.920]  Romney saluted the recent spate of crackdowns on the Occupy movement.
[01:18.920 --> 01:24.040]  With the presidential election campaign underway, Barack Obama has expressed empathy with the
[01:24.040 --> 01:29.880]  Occupy Wall Street movement, yet federal agencies answering directly to the president coordinated
[01:29.880 --> 01:34.080]  the nationwide crackdowns on Occupy camps behind the scenes.
[01:34.080 --> 01:39.320]  Obama's reaction to the New York Police Department's raid of Zuccotti Park on Tuesday was, quote,
[01:39.320 --> 01:44.560]  every municipality has to make its own decision on how to balance free speech and the concerns
[01:44.560 --> 01:45.640]  of the community.
[01:45.640 --> 01:50.440]  But Rick Ellis of theexaminer.com cited the Justice Department official as saying the
[01:50.440 --> 01:56.400]  recent nationwide evictions of Occupy camps, including Salt Lake City, Denver, Portland,
[01:56.400 --> 02:02.160]  Oakland and New York, were, quote, coordinated with the help of Homeland Security, the FBI
[02:02.160 --> 02:07.240]  and other federal police agencies, even though the decision to evict protesters rested with
[02:07.240 --> 02:08.680]  local authorities.
[02:08.680 --> 02:15.960]  Police departments, quote, received tactical and planning advice from national agencies.
[02:15.960 --> 02:19.480]  Palestinian officials denied Thursday reports claiming they were willing to freeze their
[02:19.480 --> 02:25.840]  statehood bid at the UN if Israel handed over tax collection funds it had withheld.
[02:25.840 --> 02:30.000]  A European diplomat said Wednesday, the PA had offered to freeze all mo-
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[03:39.840 --> 03:48.440]  Yes, I will. I was, when I was in Australia, I had the fortunate experience of getting
[03:48.440 --> 03:57.200]  to go up to Gold Coast to do a presentation up there and I met the one person that I heard
[03:57.200 --> 04:02.600]  about more than any other all the time I was there, was Mark Petellic.
[04:02.600 --> 04:07.560]  And he turned out to be the most professional and knowledgeable legal researcher that I
[04:07.560 --> 04:10.840]  met while I was in Australia.
[04:10.840 --> 04:19.760]  And I'm fortunate enough to have him on tonight and he's going to talk about how people perceive
[04:19.760 --> 04:27.840]  law in Australia and I suspect you will find his comments very familiar.
[04:27.840 --> 04:32.640]  Mark, it's wonderful to have you on.
[04:32.640 --> 04:37.760]  Thank you very much, Eddie and Ren.
[04:37.760 --> 04:45.360]  You can kind of give us an overview of the legal system and how it reacts to the public
[04:45.360 --> 04:52.480]  and public opinion and how people tend to feel about the legal system in Australia.
[04:52.480 --> 05:02.440]  How the legal system responds to the public, I'm not sure what it does.
[05:02.440 --> 05:05.440]  They are very disrespectful of the public.
[05:05.440 --> 05:11.800]  They know the public, probably very much the same over there.
[05:11.800 --> 05:18.040]  Most people have no understanding of what the law is and consequently they use, here
[05:18.040 --> 05:21.360]  we call them lawyers or solicitors.
[05:21.360 --> 05:27.840]  Well, here we call them liars and thieves and rogues.
[05:27.840 --> 05:32.680]  There's a familiar expression here too.
[05:32.680 --> 05:38.200]  I would suggest that the majority of people here are still asleep.
[05:38.200 --> 05:42.440]  Most know that things are not right.
[05:42.440 --> 05:47.640]  Many are becoming aware that there has to be a different way of doing things because
[05:47.640 --> 05:51.280]  of economic pressures.
[05:51.280 --> 06:00.560]  And at some point everybody seems to have issues to address and therefore they become
[06:00.560 --> 06:03.800]  involved in what we call the free man industry.
[06:03.800 --> 06:10.280]  It's a big learning curve and I thank Randy too for saying some nice things about me.
[06:10.280 --> 06:16.560]  We're all learning over here too so we're certainly not at the end of the road to do
[06:16.560 --> 06:17.560]  with this movement.
[06:17.560 --> 06:21.880]  We're still learning very quickly on how to address all sorts of different issues but
[06:21.880 --> 06:26.880]  we're certainly well along the way to dealing with those issues.
[06:26.880 --> 06:32.760]  Okay, back to your question.
[06:32.760 --> 06:37.000]  Which you kind of, you had an experience similar to mine recently.
[06:37.000 --> 06:45.360]  It was especially struck with the problem that your parents were having.
[06:45.360 --> 06:49.560]  It was so familiar to what we've seen going on here.
[06:49.560 --> 06:54.960]  Will you talk about that for a bit?
[06:54.960 --> 06:58.160]  I will do.
[06:58.160 --> 07:11.400]  I have, well, mother or stepmother had an issue with some drugs which she reacted to.
[07:11.400 --> 07:20.840]  The shorter that my father took them to some doctors, the doctors had her assessed without
[07:20.840 --> 07:27.480]  his permission and behind his back so that she was actually institutionalised without
[07:27.480 --> 07:30.280]  her or his consent.
[07:30.280 --> 07:37.520]  Now I found out only six weeks after the event but because we started to address those issues
[07:37.520 --> 07:45.360]  and all the breaches of state and federal laws as well as codes within the medical profession,
[07:45.360 --> 07:55.040]  we targeted two specific doctors and rather than release her, the system seemed to close
[07:55.040 --> 07:56.040]  ranks.
[07:56.040 --> 08:01.560]  The more pressure we exerted as we went up the rung, the more we realised that they were
[08:01.560 --> 08:08.360]  just closing ranks rather than release her because it was quite blatant obvious to those
[08:08.360 --> 08:09.360]  parties.
[08:09.360 --> 08:16.600]  I'm talking about tribunals, I'm talking about judges within the system and the Supreme
[08:16.600 --> 08:21.520]  Court which we brought her before the writ of habeas corpus.
[08:21.520 --> 08:28.160]  We're talking about the health minister, the state health minister and the mental health
[08:28.160 --> 08:40.680]  minister which are also implicated and rather than release her, they want to institutionalise
[08:40.680 --> 08:42.840]  her for the rest of her life.
[08:42.840 --> 08:50.320]  Now the situation has been resolved in that she's no longer in the country but the legal
[08:50.320 --> 08:53.440]  issue is still outstanding.
[08:53.440 --> 08:59.800]  What about the properties?
[08:59.800 --> 09:05.120]  This is something that's going on a lot in Florida where so many people over the years
[09:05.120 --> 09:14.360]  have moved to retire that the state is coming in and saying this person is no longer competent
[09:14.360 --> 09:21.800]  to live alone, that they need state-sponsored healthcare and put them in a home and then
[09:21.800 --> 09:26.840]  come and take all of their property to pay for their upkeep.
[09:26.840 --> 09:30.400]  You speak to that part?
[09:30.400 --> 09:33.240]  Well that has mirrored all over Australia.
[09:33.240 --> 09:40.560]  Queensland in particular, I reside in the Bell Coasters in Queensland but here Queensland
[09:40.560 --> 09:50.480]  is the first state corporation which all the other states will be tucked into.
[09:50.480 --> 09:55.320]  We probably are aware that Queensland as well as Commonwealth of Australia is an American
[09:55.320 --> 09:56.320]  corporation.
[09:56.320 --> 10:01.840]  It's listed there on the Securities and Exchange Commission as a US corporation.
[10:01.840 --> 10:10.600]  So there are really no laws here other than ordinances and codes and if we're not employees
[10:10.600 --> 10:17.480]  of the corporation or public entities then those codes and ordinances don't apply to
[10:17.480 --> 10:18.480]  us.
[10:18.480 --> 10:27.680]  However there are presumptions made that we are surety for the legal person if you like
[10:27.680 --> 10:39.440]  and my mum was of course presumed to be one of those and incompetent so those laws are
[10:39.440 --> 10:48.920]  used to, if you like, imprison people or to bring them into the welfare of the state
[10:48.920 --> 10:56.880]  because of incompetency and there are thousands of Queenslanders that are institutionalised
[10:56.880 --> 11:01.080]  just like she is but it's the same in every state.
[11:01.080 --> 11:11.080]  I had success down in New South Wales in one day of serving lawyers three documents, two
[11:11.080 --> 11:14.080]  of them which were affidavits.
[11:14.080 --> 11:22.600]  One lady was released from a mental institution where she was about to be charged with electric
[11:22.600 --> 11:25.160]  equipment which could have been used to kill her.
[11:25.160 --> 11:31.320]  She's had it before it nearly did kill her but fortunately we got her out on one day but
[11:31.320 --> 11:37.440]  what we found fine in Queensland is we have to work much harder to get the same results
[11:37.440 --> 11:43.040]  that we can get elsewhere and I think it's because of that corporate entity.
[11:43.040 --> 11:51.080]  Is there a recourse for going after the actors?
[11:51.080 --> 11:59.960]  There is and we're still coming to grips with the mechanism of using that because if we
[11:59.960 --> 12:05.520]  use the legal system we found that there's very little integrity at any level whether
[12:05.520 --> 12:11.040]  you're looking at a low magistrate level district or the supreme court level which
[12:11.040 --> 12:14.960]  is the highest court in each state here.
[12:14.960 --> 12:19.400]  Even if I have been in a number of federal courts too whether it's a federal magistrate
[12:19.400 --> 12:28.400]  or the federal court and if one is challenging anything against any tier of government then
[12:28.400 --> 12:32.680]  it is likely that you'll see abuses of process.
[12:32.680 --> 12:38.880]  If it's against just some non-government entity then there seems to be a semblance of judicial
[12:38.880 --> 12:48.280]  process and due process but when you take on any government entity or organisation or
[12:48.280 --> 12:55.720]  corporation then we don't see any legal remedy other than that we can put some formal complaints
[12:55.720 --> 13:01.440]  in and possibly do some private prosecutions.
[13:01.440 --> 13:09.000]  The experience to date is any private prosecutions that have been filed and accepted into a court
[13:09.000 --> 13:14.440]  and that's a challenge but when it has been accepted the DPP, the Department of Public
[13:14.440 --> 13:24.160]  Prosecution have just pulled it so no private prosecution to date has gone anywhere but
[13:24.160 --> 13:30.680]  I believe that formal complaints can have an effect and do have an effect and in effect
[13:30.680 --> 13:41.640]  resulted probably in why I was incarcerated or spent eight weeks in prison.
[13:41.640 --> 13:46.560]  Isn't that just over traffic?
[13:46.560 --> 13:48.560]  There are a couple of issues.
[13:48.560 --> 13:56.360]  Traffic matters was from 1999 to about 2007 and they were dealt with.
[13:56.360 --> 14:02.720]  We issued money orders and we never heard back from our State Penalties Office.
[14:02.720 --> 14:11.600]  However, because I was going after some doctors but also brought to the attention of the Supreme
[14:11.600 --> 14:19.960]  Court Justice that made a decision to withhold her decision in the face of no evidence from
[14:19.960 --> 14:27.600]  the opposition that my mother should be institutionalised, they didn't even turn up in court, all our
[14:27.600 --> 14:34.480]  affidavits were un-rebutted so if due process was followed the evidence before the court
[14:34.480 --> 14:38.720]  should have been in her favour that she should have been immediately released but she was
[14:38.720 --> 14:39.720]  not.
[14:39.720 --> 14:47.120]  So a letter that I wrote to her in polite terms saying that she ought not harm herself
[14:47.120 --> 14:55.280]  or her or others when the evidence before the court was that she ought to be released
[14:55.280 --> 15:01.720]  and that was taken as a threat and a special branch of the security of the State Police
[15:01.720 --> 15:03.680]  came to visit with me.
[15:03.680 --> 15:10.840]  They had no warrants, they had only hearsay and they were quite comfortable that there
[15:10.840 --> 15:18.520]  was no threat but at that point they thought out that there were 25 warrants raised with
[15:18.520 --> 15:22.520]  which to apprehend me.
[15:22.520 --> 15:23.520]  They didn't do that.
[15:23.520 --> 15:28.960]  They called back up from the State Police and they arrived while we had our meeting.
[15:28.960 --> 15:35.680]  So it was just an entrapment but those warrants, there were no warrants, they asked for them,
[15:35.680 --> 15:42.800]  we recorded the meeting, there were no warrants, those were, they were raised earlier but were
[15:42.800 --> 15:49.320]  not with the police officers, the arresting officers, however the judgement that was made
[15:49.320 --> 15:56.000]  to release those warrants was made one week after I was already in prison.
[15:56.000 --> 16:02.400]  So I don't know how you could raise warrants without an order and when I was in the Supreme
[16:02.400 --> 16:09.320]  Court by way of a writ of habeas corpus the justice was reading through my material as
[16:09.320 --> 16:15.840]  well as looking through the 25 warrants which were brought to his attention and he said
[16:15.840 --> 16:22.080]  that the warrants needed further investigation because it was brought to the attention of
[16:22.080 --> 16:29.440]  the court that there were no signatures nor were there any court seals or JP seals, they
[16:29.440 --> 16:35.400]  were essentially equivalent to toilet paper but that's all that's needed.
[16:35.400 --> 16:42.680]  All right folks, we're about to go to break, this is Rule of Law Radio, we do have our
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[20:39.720 --> 20:52.360]  The United States, there's a lot of guys out there that are pushing a commercial process.
[20:52.360 --> 21:00.920]  So far, I have seen very little remedy from it, but Mark, I understand you're more focused
[21:00.920 --> 21:07.000]  on a private process than it could be preface that with, I think the private process Mark's
[21:07.000 --> 21:12.680]  talking about is not like the commercial process we're doing, but more like an administrative
[21:12.680 --> 21:17.640]  procedure. Will you explain what you're doing there with the private process?
[21:19.560 --> 21:27.800]  Yes, Randy, thank you. It's a process that we learned about six years ago. I don't like going
[21:27.800 --> 21:34.840]  to court. Back in 1999, I didn't go to court. I would just write a simple letter to the court
[21:34.840 --> 21:42.920]  saying that I'm happy to come to court as long as the court recognizes my standing and status
[21:44.520 --> 21:51.000]  and that if they don't, then I'd rather not come and that they would need to settle the matter
[21:51.000 --> 21:58.920]  themselves. And those few times matters seem to be settled. I didn't go to court, but when more
[21:58.920 --> 22:08.840]  recently I was doing that simple process, warrants get issued and they come and kidnap. So I think
[22:08.840 --> 22:18.680]  it was better to either attend the court hearing or use a more thorough process, which we've been
[22:18.680 --> 22:24.840]  doing for six years, and that is a private administrative process where we go to the complainant
[22:24.840 --> 22:35.080]  and essentially ask them to mediate a private solution by way of written process. It can also
[22:35.080 --> 22:41.640]  be done by meeting. I think meetings save an awful lot of time and you can bind them up at a meeting
[22:41.640 --> 22:48.440]  where you can get things discharged. We did that with a tax issue down in Sydney. But anyway,
[22:48.440 --> 22:55.000]  we did them with a private administrative process. It's a four-step process with a letter of
[22:55.000 --> 23:03.320]  request and a supporting affidavit where we put all the points which we want them to verify to
[23:03.320 --> 23:11.240]  establish their claim. And we put it in such a format that they cannot provide or rebut those
[23:11.240 --> 23:19.160]  points because if they do, they would reveal their fraud. The key things being shown that we
[23:19.160 --> 23:31.080]  actually have a contract where we willingly and voluntarily subjugated our status and standing
[23:31.080 --> 23:39.640]  to that of a surfer or slave and therefore subject to statute laws or more correctly ordinances and
[23:39.640 --> 23:47.640]  co-directs of a private corporation, well, they can't produce a contract, at best there may be a
[23:47.640 --> 23:58.920]  presumed or an implied contract. And if we put on there that show that we don't have the standing
[23:58.920 --> 24:05.480]  or capacity to rebut your implied contracts, well, how are they going to prove that they can come
[24:05.480 --> 24:13.400]  up with any law that verifies that an implied contract would apply without deconsent of all
[24:13.400 --> 24:22.040]  parties? So we put it in a format where they can't rebut without revealing a fraud. So the first
[24:22.040 --> 24:27.160]  set of letters won't be responded to, so the second one that comes out will be done by a notary.
[24:27.720 --> 24:34.840]  If you can find a notary, which over in America is Bucket J.P., over here a notary
[24:34.840 --> 24:41.480]  is superior to a J.P. and they charge anywhere from $50 to $150 per page to notarize,
[24:42.360 --> 24:49.000]  but it carries weight because a notary here is the only party that can see both private
[24:49.000 --> 24:55.480]  and public. And if we want a private document entered into a public record, then the notary
[24:55.480 --> 25:01.960]  is a very useful tool of doing that. So the notary issues the second set of documents,
[25:01.960 --> 25:06.920]  basically saying, you know, I'm here as a neutral party evidencing this process.
[25:07.720 --> 25:14.120]  We've noticed that you didn't respond to the first party. It may have been through an impossibility
[25:14.120 --> 25:19.320]  or an oversight. We're giving you a second opportunity to correct that dishonour and
[25:19.320 --> 25:26.280]  please provide your particulars or your rebuttals to me so I can record what response there is.
[25:26.280 --> 25:32.760]  Of the 80 administrative processes I've done mostly for other people, we've never had any response
[25:32.760 --> 25:38.600]  other than a couple of letters from lawyers saying, we're not going to respond to any of that.
[25:39.400 --> 25:49.000]  Well, if you understand the process, then that's a confession to a guilty plea. So after the second
[25:49.000 --> 25:57.720]  step, the third step, the notary sends out now a notice of default, basically saying now that
[25:57.720 --> 26:05.960]  not only have the responded parties dishonoured the first party, they've also dishonoured the
[26:05.960 --> 26:12.600]  notary himself. And that unless they now correct that dishonour, it will be taken that it is an
[26:12.600 --> 26:20.920]  intent to not reply and therefore a confession to guilt. And here are the terms of the damages
[26:21.640 --> 26:27.480]  that they've caused the first party. So they won't respond to that either. So the fourth
[26:27.480 --> 26:35.000]  response is the certificate. Over here I learned in the Supreme Court about mediation certificates.
[26:35.000 --> 26:43.320]  We call them certificates of dishonour. They're dishonour the respondent parties. However,
[26:43.320 --> 26:50.840]  we call them now certificates of dishonour for mediation certificate of dishonour and mediation
[26:50.840 --> 27:00.040]  so that the court recognises that it's their own terminology. Dealing outside of tiers of
[27:00.040 --> 27:07.960]  government, that process will stop private matters in its tracks. Sometimes it will stop,
[27:07.960 --> 27:15.560]  for example, you have your IRS over there. Here we have the AGO. I've had matters stop with the AGO
[27:15.560 --> 27:22.680]  over here, but it doesn't always stop. If there's a court proceeding already
[27:22.680 --> 27:31.720]  current, then it doesn't stop it. But at least we would have a private settlement which we can
[27:31.720 --> 27:39.240]  take into court as evidence that there is no matter before the court and that the justice or
[27:39.240 --> 27:46.120]  the magistrate would have to give rule administratively and not judicially. We've seen many times where
[27:46.120 --> 27:51.560]  they won't do that, but we have also seen occasions where they will do that. So it's not common.
[27:51.560 --> 27:59.880]  Especially if your adversary or the respondent party is some level of government. We have
[27:59.880 --> 28:05.880]  here local councils that's third tier. We have second tier which is state government and we
[28:05.880 --> 28:13.400]  have also the federal government. So there are those tiers, but generally they don't have much
[28:13.400 --> 28:22.600]  effect on those parties. So we're still looking at ways other than court to address them, maybe
[28:22.600 --> 28:36.360]  refining the process. Going into court or there's another. Sorry. This being a civil process is
[28:36.360 --> 28:44.440]  there's something in Australian law as opposed to American law that would give the other party
[28:44.440 --> 28:52.600]  a specific duty to respond. Because here in the United States we have, in the criminal courts,
[28:52.600 --> 29:02.280]  we have the statutory criminal laws and they will claim that when someone asks for the contract,
[29:02.280 --> 29:08.680]  they'll claim that the contract is an adhesion contract that you entered into by entering into
[29:09.800 --> 29:16.200]  coming within the territorial boundaries of the state. In doing so, you volunteer
[29:17.240 --> 29:23.400]  by volunteering to come into the state, you volunteer by the laws and they don't have to show
[29:23.400 --> 29:32.440]  an injured party because in Texas we have a statute that says when a penal law is violated,
[29:32.440 --> 29:44.600]  the state is the injured party. How do you draw in the state into the commercial area?
[29:44.600 --> 29:49.880]  I mean we will get to that when we come back on the other side. This is Randy Keltner,
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[31:56.840 --> 32:11.320]  Yeah, I got a warrant, and I'm going to solve them, to the head of government them,
[32:11.320 --> 32:27.080]  and prosecute them. Okay, hold on.
[32:27.080 --> 32:44.840]  Okay, we're back.
[32:44.840 --> 32:57.080]  Okay, we're back. Caller board is open, 512-646-1984.
[32:58.120 --> 33:00.520]  You know, we've been playing Stump to Chumps.
[33:01.640 --> 33:08.200]  It'd be nice if you called in with a good hard question for Mark so we can Stump to Aussie Chumps.
[33:08.200 --> 33:15.800]  Actually, it turns out we're pretty easy to Stump, so it's not a great feature here.
[33:16.520 --> 33:27.480]  But on the break, we've come to this, how the state claims injury, and I've mentioned that,
[33:27.480 --> 33:33.320]  and Mark mentioned that on the break. Will you go back to that, Mark, and explain that issue?
[33:33.320 --> 33:45.160]  Yes. In court, whether it's a state or federal court, that's an issue that is brought up when
[33:45.160 --> 33:52.440]  we ask, look, who is the damaged party here? And it will be brought up that, you know,
[33:52.440 --> 34:02.680]  state of Queensland, or maybe Queensland Police Service, or the Department of Transport, or whatever.
[34:02.680 --> 34:08.840]  These are all corporations, and therefore the question has to be asked of the magistrate
[34:08.840 --> 34:16.760]  or the justice. How is it that a corporation or corporate fiction can be damaged or harmed?
[34:17.400 --> 34:22.680]  And there is, of course, no answer. You're actually revealing the fraud just with that question.
[34:23.480 --> 34:28.840]  Generally, they want to answer the question, so you have to answer the question for them.
[34:28.840 --> 34:37.000]  But what I have noticed, Randy, and the listeners, is that I think there are a lot of similarities
[34:37.000 --> 34:43.320]  with issues, but I think there are also some differences. Something like that, you have your
[34:43.320 --> 34:52.120]  constitution over there. Well, Australia had a constitution from 1900 to 1919, and we don't
[34:52.120 --> 34:57.960]  have one now, because when the Versailles Treaty was signed after the end of the war,
[34:57.960 --> 35:06.120]  the Queen didn't sign on behalf of the Commonwealth countries, and therefore, you know, she reneged
[35:06.120 --> 35:13.320]  on her duties and essentially acquiesced and left Australia. So Australia is in legal limbo.
[35:14.280 --> 35:22.120]  We don't really have law here. There's only colour of law. And we may be a sovereign nation,
[35:22.120 --> 35:27.880]  or the things that we are, because we have all these treaties, international treaties,
[35:28.440 --> 35:33.320]  but we still have British law in a sovereign nation, and that's treason.
[35:34.440 --> 35:41.160]  I don't believe we have law here in Australia, because we can't have law in Australia. The
[35:41.160 --> 35:49.480]  problem here is that Great Britain conquered Australia, and they had no standing to do that.
[35:49.480 --> 35:55.160]  It's a breach of international law, because our aboriginals here were sovereign. They had
[35:55.160 --> 35:59.880]  formal government here, though you don't, even the Australians don't hear about that,
[35:59.880 --> 36:05.080]  but there was formalised government, and the British declared war on them and conquered them,
[36:05.080 --> 36:09.240]  and therefore, they can't really do any law here. So there's only a colour of law.
[36:09.240 --> 36:21.320]  But the whole legal system is full of contradictions and lots of opinions, if you like.
[36:22.920 --> 36:29.320]  The laws, there are so many more recent codes, if you like, criminal code and other codes,
[36:29.880 --> 36:38.200]  and these really aren't laws. They're just codes and ordinances of private corporations,
[36:38.200 --> 36:43.560]  because everything in this country, and probably in the US as well, has been corporatised.
[36:44.680 --> 36:53.000]  So when we talk about codes and acts in courts, I don't recognise those, and I tell the
[36:53.000 --> 37:01.080]  Magistrate that, or I rather not approach the Justice or Magistrate, they need to be mutual
[37:01.080 --> 37:07.240]  parties. It's much better to deal with your adversary or the prosecutor for your adversary,
[37:07.240 --> 37:15.560]  and put them on in a corner by just asking them for the contract that was breached by you,
[37:16.680 --> 37:23.720]  whereby you voluntarily, you know, subrogated your standing to that of a servant subject
[37:23.720 --> 37:28.440]  to their statutes. And if they can't produce it within a few seconds, and you give them three
[37:28.440 --> 37:34.280]  seconds, then you'll take it as their admission that there is no contract, and therefore,
[37:34.280 --> 37:41.560]  their agreement that their codes and ordinances that they're trying to rate you with don't apply,
[37:41.560 --> 37:48.120]  and therefore a court order can be brought that is in favour of the defendant. And that's our way
[37:48.120 --> 37:59.800]  of getting around things. I've been trying to say, you know, sorry. I found it interesting in
[37:59.800 --> 38:08.600]  Australia because here, especially on this show, we've got people calling in with the commercial
[38:08.600 --> 38:15.080]  process, and I'm pretty hard on the commercial process here. But when I got to Australia and
[38:15.080 --> 38:21.320]  people were using the commercial process, and it looked the same, but after I listened a while,
[38:21.320 --> 38:30.760]  it was clear that the Australian government that was in the background was in some ways profoundly
[38:30.760 --> 38:40.600]  different than here in the United States. We have police and agencies that are constitutional
[38:40.600 --> 38:48.360]  agencies. And in Australia, it didn't seem that way that it was more understood that everything
[38:48.360 --> 38:58.040]  was, in fact, commercial, that the government was, in fact, corporations and therefore subject
[38:58.040 --> 39:05.880]  to the commercial law have found much overall remedy in the process. I mean, I guess what I'm
[39:05.880 --> 39:13.640]  really asking is, is the problems that you're having because the government is just totally
[39:13.640 --> 39:21.560]  ignoring the process, or is it that it's more sophisticated than we nearly need to find ways
[39:21.560 --> 39:33.480]  of tweaking it? I think it's a bit of both, really. I believe here, only contract law applies
[39:34.040 --> 39:41.480]  because everything is a corporation. And to do business, one must apply corporate or contract
[39:41.480 --> 39:48.280]  law. And by definition, there needs to be consent of the parties. And if one expresses they don't
[39:48.280 --> 39:55.000]  consent and they don't accept any offer, then there's no agreement. So it's a matter of enforcing
[39:55.000 --> 40:00.840]  that then. But having said that, the police force here, they don't understand all that,
[40:00.840 --> 40:08.200]  or elements of it don't understand that, or should be more precise. And therefore, if you're
[40:08.200 --> 40:12.600]  on the road and you're pulled over and you mentioned, look, I have no interest in doing
[40:12.600 --> 40:18.600]  business with you, that is a trigger where they'll come and assault you and pull you out of the car
[40:18.600 --> 40:26.520]  and do what they like to you. So it's a matter of line of least resistance. But I think what it is,
[40:27.160 --> 40:34.280]  court contract law applies, but because of the nature of every all corporations are struggling
[40:34.280 --> 40:40.280]  financially in Australia and probably around the rest of the world too, they're looking for every
[40:40.280 --> 40:47.560]  piece of revenue they can get. And so their ordinances and codes are ignored by their own people.
[40:48.200 --> 40:55.000]  And the only way we can bring them back to integrity is to actually pursue them individually,
[40:55.000 --> 41:02.520]  not the corporation, pursue the employees individually with formal complaints, but also
[41:02.520 --> 41:08.440]  with criminal charges. And I think that's where we're at at the moment. That's what we're teaching
[41:08.440 --> 41:16.840]  people now. What I have noticed is that material that I use in courts or before courts, when some
[41:16.840 --> 41:24.840]  of my students are using it, they'll often get a result where I may not necessarily get a result
[41:24.840 --> 41:31.880]  because I think that they're trying on being closed down much like Randy has been shut down at
[41:31.880 --> 41:39.000]  times because we're teaching. And I think that makes us a little bit more vulnerable and maybe
[41:39.000 --> 41:44.680]  we're tested a little bit more. To give you an example, I have some matters before the court
[41:44.680 --> 41:55.480]  which started in early 2009, the traffic matters. I've had so far 14 mansions. The 15th is on
[41:55.480 --> 42:02.760]  December the 9th, which we found out was changed from the original 13th of December. They didn't
[42:02.760 --> 42:10.120]  tell me though. And I've had two Supreme Court hearings over it. Well, that's an abusive process
[42:10.120 --> 42:18.040]  and we have a specific law in our Crimes Act, section 34, which says a magistrate exercising
[42:18.040 --> 42:26.040]  excessive oppression. That's something that I've used in the last hearing. And although I left
[42:26.040 --> 42:32.360]  the magistrate out until the very end when he obviously wanted to adjourn rather than make
[42:32.360 --> 42:40.280]  an order to discharge the charges. I had the prosecutor in the corner where he didn't want
[42:40.280 --> 42:48.200]  to speak because he had confessed to liability by virtue that he couldn't produce the original
[42:48.200 --> 42:59.400]  contract that gives him or the plaintiff authority over the defendant. So rather than make a ruling
[42:59.400 --> 43:05.320]  on the evidence before the court, they just continue to adjourn. So privately now I've gone
[43:05.320 --> 43:13.400]  to the magistrate with a damages claim, with an invoice, but also a contract. And if he doesn't
[43:13.400 --> 43:19.080]  sign it, I'm not perturbed because in my cover letter it says that if he doesn't sign but the
[43:19.080 --> 43:26.440]  hearing continues on the 9th of December, then there is an implied contract. And the only reason
[43:26.440 --> 43:32.840]  I would be going to court if it is not dismissed beforehand is to collect my 100 million dollar
[43:32.840 --> 43:43.880]  check. Everything is contract raw and we need to put the pressure on to make them bind to the
[43:43.880 --> 43:50.520]  contract. If they want to do business with the legal person, my legal person will chime the
[43:50.520 --> 43:57.560]  administration. Hold on one more, we're about to go to break. Hang on just one second. I post me
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[46:35.880 --> 46:41.240]  asking for my life. Alright folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio, Randy Kilton, Debra
[46:41.240 --> 46:48.920]  Stevens, I am Eddie Craig. We have guest Mark Patela on from Australia. Ok Randy, please resume.
[46:48.920 --> 46:59.400]  Yes, when we went out, coming into the break, Mark was talking about how some of the things that
[46:59.400 --> 47:04.920]  were so different, and the one thing he said on the break that really struck me, and I'd like
[47:04.920 --> 47:11.000]  you to talk more about it, is how the law is different because you were invaded. That's not
[47:11.000 --> 47:17.000]  something you'll ever hear in the United States, and it was so foreign, the concept of your position.
[47:17.000 --> 47:26.760]  You explained how, the thing I was most struck with was the power of the queen in Australia,
[47:26.760 --> 47:33.960]  and how English law affects the Australian law. Right. Well it all comes back to,
[47:36.120 --> 47:43.320]  well Captain Crook. Now we've got a Captain Crook that discovered Australia. Well he is British,
[47:43.320 --> 47:53.320]  and he was authorised to come to Australia to lay claim for the queen on the basis that there was
[47:53.320 --> 47:59.080]  no organised government. He did find organised government, but put his flag here anyway, and
[47:59.080 --> 48:05.240]  that was a sign of conquer. And when all the, not all, but many, many aboriginals were shot
[48:05.240 --> 48:13.160]  over about 150-year period, they signed over their lands. They didn't know how to write,
[48:13.160 --> 48:19.400]  but they would put a mark on a piece of paper, and then they would be shot, and they would just
[48:19.400 --> 48:25.320]  just leave it all out in the Outback Australia. That's how Australia was taken, essentially.
[48:25.960 --> 48:33.320]  And it's not a story that even most Australians would know, but the Queen, the Great Britain's
[48:33.320 --> 48:41.240]  laws apply here. Though Australia is making its own laws too, so there's confusion between the two,
[48:41.240 --> 48:46.600]  and depending on which courts you're going to, the courts will say, no, that doesn't have jurisdiction,
[48:48.440 --> 48:55.320]  and this will have jurisdiction. So, you know, going into courts you have to have the
[48:55.320 --> 49:03.400]  goalpost, if you like, in place before you can even proceed. You know, which Commonwealth of
[49:03.400 --> 49:09.880]  Australia are we operating under here? Are we operating under the one instituted by the Queen
[49:09.880 --> 49:15.880]  of England, or are we operating, you know, the House of Windsor, the real Queen, or are we operating
[49:15.880 --> 49:20.920]  under the Queen in Right, which is a corporate fiction, and the Commonwealth of Australia that's
[49:20.920 --> 49:27.960]  listed on the US Securities and Exchange Commission as a US corporation. And pending the answer,
[49:27.960 --> 49:32.520]  if you even get an answer, then you can start playing the game, whether you're playing in
[49:32.520 --> 49:37.880]  contract law or you're playing in common law. The courts here in Australia will tell you,
[49:37.880 --> 49:42.040]  these state courts, other than the Supreme Court, will tell you don't bring that common
[49:42.040 --> 49:51.480]  law into the court, because it's not here. We operate under statute. So, if you can, if you...
[49:51.480 --> 50:03.320]  That can change. That is a good point. Common law in Australia. I suspect you're talking about
[50:03.320 --> 50:09.400]  something different than when we say common law in the United States, because in the United States,
[50:09.400 --> 50:17.240]  the common law is still there, it's still available, but you have another name for it in its starting
[50:17.240 --> 50:29.080]  decisive case. Is that what it means in Australia, or is there a specific common law that you can go to?
[50:32.360 --> 50:38.200]  Well, it's my understanding that we just call it common law, whether it's equivalent to what you
[50:38.200 --> 50:48.440]  call case law. I'm not certain, because we have case law here also for statute. So, case law really
[50:48.440 --> 50:57.080]  encompasses both, whereas here common law is definitely a different entity to statute law.
[50:58.040 --> 51:06.200]  And statute law is really only codified law anyway. It's for corporations and for employees of
[51:06.200 --> 51:13.560]  corporations. And if you're a citizen, if you're a citizen of Australia or a Queensland citizen,
[51:14.280 --> 51:22.680]  then you're an employee of that corporation and subject to statute law. So, when a policeman
[51:22.680 --> 51:29.880]  says to you, oh, but you live in Queensland, well, if you say you do, then you're subject to his
[51:29.880 --> 51:36.360]  authority and statute law. But if you say no, I'm a foreigner, then you're not subject to his
[51:36.360 --> 51:41.800]  statute law. One doesn't have to describe where one lives. If he says, well, where do you live?
[51:41.800 --> 51:45.880]  Well, that's none of your business. That's private, but I'm a foreigner to Queensland.
[51:46.520 --> 51:53.000]  You're likely to be let go. And I've experienced that in the past too. I've had quite a number of
[51:53.560 --> 51:59.240]  encounters with police and generally on their own, they'll accommodate you. But if they're in a group,
[51:59.240 --> 52:05.400]  like we have what we call booze buses here where you get pulled over with maybe 10 or 20 police
[52:05.400 --> 52:12.200]  where they check breathalysers, do you have that over then? Yes, we have that on occasion.
[52:13.320 --> 52:22.040]  States Institute, they operate for a while. And then the whole thing will get shut down
[52:22.040 --> 52:27.560]  as being unconstitutional. And then they'll wait a couple of years and they'll do it again.
[52:27.560 --> 52:33.800]  And in the process, they'll make a whole lot of money. And then the legislature will say, well,
[52:33.800 --> 52:40.280]  you can't do that anymore. It's a racket. And yeah, they have that here. Yeah, as a piece of
[52:40.280 --> 52:47.160]  legality. And that's still it. Well, this is my biggest problem with the story. Decisive
[52:47.160 --> 52:55.240]  slash case law serving as the common law. And I said it before that that law changes law. I say
[52:55.240 --> 53:04.680]  that with a smirk on my face. That law specifically changes anytime some new magistrate with a new
[53:04.680 --> 53:14.360]  political agenda ascends to the bench. Every time the judges change, so does the opinion that goes
[53:14.360 --> 53:20.440]  with it, which makes everything about story decisive a better quicksand. You rely on a case
[53:20.440 --> 53:26.040]  from 10 years ago for this offense. The very next day that will no longer hold water because
[53:26.040 --> 53:33.240]  some judge with a different social agenda decided it would work differently. So that in my opinion
[53:33.240 --> 53:40.600]  that it that should be used only as a guideline for how the courts looked at the situation.
[53:40.600 --> 53:48.440]  But personally, every single case is different. The circumstances, the people, the situation,
[53:48.440 --> 53:56.600]  everything was and is different. Use the case law as a guideline, but you cannot be forced
[53:56.600 --> 54:02.120]  to abide by it because some judge changed their opinion about it 10 years later.
[54:04.280 --> 54:10.360]  Right. I think you have the same problem there, don't you, Mark? Yes, it does. And it's certainly a
[54:10.360 --> 54:16.680]  minefield because you won't get two decisions based on the same evidence. You know, two decisions
[54:16.680 --> 54:21.960]  the same, I should say, based on the same evidence. So yeah, we have that here too.
[54:22.600 --> 54:29.160]  And from what you were saying earlier, it appears as though your minefield is a lot more dangerous
[54:29.160 --> 54:38.360]  than ours because we've only got one law and we can point and say we have these set of statutes
[54:38.360 --> 54:46.520]  in this one and this one, and they always apply. Now, they apply them capriciously and arbitrarily,
[54:46.520 --> 54:53.240]  but we always tend to point at the same law. It appears in Australia that's not always the case.
[54:55.000 --> 54:57.960]  They're not always sure what set of law they're going to use.
[54:59.080 --> 55:05.880]  Well, every state has its codified statute laws and they're very similar
[55:05.880 --> 55:12.760]  and in 90% of all 95% the same, really, and that's what they rely on and use.
[55:14.840 --> 55:23.720]  But again, they only apply to corporations or employees of corporations. So, you know,
[55:23.720 --> 55:31.320]  if one isn't one of those, then they don't apply. Over there, you've got a thing called probable
[55:31.320 --> 55:39.240]  cause. Over here, we have reasonable cause. And in the example I was given before with
[55:39.240 --> 55:47.080]  breathalysers, that is every state's biggest revenue earner for the police force. It's uniform.
[55:47.080 --> 55:54.840]  They are everywhere here and it's reminiscent of a dictatorship. You know, we're trying to get rid
[55:54.840 --> 56:03.560]  of them and the system doesn't want to withdraw them because they're probably in the billions
[56:03.560 --> 56:13.000]  now here in Australia from them. But, you know, even in the statute laws, reasonable cause
[56:15.160 --> 56:24.360]  is a key statute and a breathalyzer fails that statute because unless a car is looking dangerous
[56:24.360 --> 56:30.120]  on a road somewhere or, you know, swerving or something, what is the reasonable cause to
[56:30.120 --> 56:35.400]  pull someone over through a breathalyzer? You know, it's there and breacher their own law.
[56:36.920 --> 56:45.400]  What they say here is, is you can't breach someone's rights that way unless you breach
[56:45.400 --> 56:53.480]  everybody's rights that way. So, if you pull over everyone, then you're not singling anyone out
[56:53.480 --> 56:58.760]  from this treatment. But my argument always was, and I'm not much of a correct here. So,
[56:59.720 --> 57:04.760]  it's really not my issue. And I have no patience for people who get out on the road,
[57:04.760 --> 57:15.640]  drop and kill our women and children. However, we have to have a functional law that's not
[57:16.200 --> 57:22.840]  to breach an arbitrary. And for the police to say, oh, it's not okay to arbitrarily breach one
[57:22.840 --> 57:29.960]  person's rights. But if you do it to everybody, well, that's just fine. That's the problem with
[57:29.960 --> 57:38.600]  what we have with the breathalyzers and that's the justification they're using to stop everybody
[57:38.600 --> 57:47.000]  because we're not singling anybody out. Well, we have one other thing you got, you went to,
[57:47.000 --> 57:56.280]  that I absolutely wanted to talk about. And that's the Aborigines. I understand the Aborigines got
[57:56.280 --> 58:03.240]  together and they paid for this. One individual's education so he could become a solicitor so he
[58:03.240 --> 58:12.120]  could come back and fight for their, the Aborigines' rights. And apparently this guy did his job in
[58:12.120 --> 58:20.040]  space. So, we're going to talk about a break. When we come back, I would like to talk about
[58:20.040 --> 58:25.160]  that. And then we're going to go to questions. If you have any questions from Mark, give us a call
[58:25.160 --> 58:32.760]  512-646-1984 or if you just have general questions, I would like to get Mark's take on some of the
[58:32.760 --> 58:40.120]  issues that you guys have in American law and compare those to Australian law. But we'll be
[58:40.120 --> 59:03.800]  right back. We'll be right back. Would you like to make more definite progress in your walk with God?
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[59:58.760 --> 01:00:06.920]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet. Tensions between club-wielding cops and
[01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:12.760]  Occupy Wall Street protesters boiled over New York's Zuccotti Park Thursday as demonstrators
[01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:19.000]  tore down police barricades, temporarily regaining control of the park. A young man, Brandon Watts,
[01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:24.360]  was stripped and beaten by police. Video of the incident posted online showed his head bleeding
[01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:29.560]  profusely. Watts was charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest and grand blossony.
[01:00:31.240 --> 01:00:36.600]  Republican presidential candidate Michelle Bachman recently expressed enthusiastic support for
[01:00:36.600 --> 01:00:42.920]  waterboarding. The interrogation technique widely recognized as torture, comparing it to President
[01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:49.480]  Truman's decision to drop an atomic bomb on Japan during World War II. Yet, when an editor with
[01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:55.080]  the Des Moines Register asked Bachman if she, quote, would willingly submit to waterboarding,
[01:00:55.080 --> 01:01:03.000]  she replied, that would be absurd. Advocates of a clean surgical strike against Iran's nuclear
[01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:08.360]  facilities have overlooked the issue of collateral damage, the Pentagon's euphemism for civilian
[01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:14.440]  casualties. South Korea's Chosun Ibo newspaper reported recently hundreds of North Korean
[01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:20.600]  scientists and engineers are working at about 10 nuclear and missile facilities in Iran, adding
[01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:26.040]  Russian technicians also remained as Iran's first nuclear electrical energy facility, Bushir.
[01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:34.600]  We are. The 99 percent was shouted in the streets of New York and dozens of other U.S. cities
[01:01:34.600 --> 01:01:40.520]  Thursday during actions marking the two-month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
[01:01:40.520 --> 01:01:45.720]  Thirty-five thousand people filled Manhattan's Foley Square Thursday, ending the day that began
[01:01:45.720 --> 01:01:50.840]  with civil disobedience that delayed the opening of the New York Stock Exchange. Hundreds gathered
[01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:55.880]  at transit hubs in New York's outer boroughs, conducting speakouts on subway cars on their
[01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:01.720]  way to downtown Foley Square. Protester Norma Gaccia said, quote, I'm here because both my
[01:02:01.720 --> 01:02:08.120]  parents have to work at age 64, adding I'm deep in debt and can't find a job because there are none.
[01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:15.080]  General Nikolai Makarov, chief of the general staff of the Russian Armed Forces, says Russia
[01:02:15.080 --> 01:02:19.320]  is facing a heightened risk of being drawn into conflicts at its borders that have the
[01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:24.920]  potential to turn nuclear. General Makarov warned against NATO's eastward expansion,
[01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:30.360]  saying the risks of Russia being pulled into local conflicts had risen sharply. A steady decline in
[01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:36.440]  Russia's conventional forces has prompted the Kremlin to rely increasingly on its nuclear deterrent.
[01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:41.720]  Russia sees NATO's expansion to include former Soviet republics and ex-members of the Soviet
[01:02:41.720 --> 01:02:48.200]  bloc in eastern and central Europe as a key threat to its security. Makarov referred to NATO's plans
[01:02:48.200 --> 01:03:10.680]  to offer membership to Georgia and Ukraine.
[01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:23.800]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:31.800]  I read his book and it says, cares come for the unsightly.
[01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.680]  These warmongers come by that term rightly.
[01:03:38.680 --> 01:03:46.360]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.800]  I ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.160]  I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:56.600]  This man's wicked and illogic shawty.
[01:03:56.600 --> 01:04:00.040]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body.
[01:04:00.040 --> 01:04:03.320]  I won't pay for the boys with my money.
[01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.440]  Ain't gonna pay for the gifts with my body.
[01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.800]  The whole agenda smells funny.
[01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.080]  I wanna fight in a wild world.
[01:04:13.080 --> 01:04:16.360]  Hi folks, we are back at the Zoologlal Radio.
[01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.920]  All in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.920]  We are going to start taking your phone calls. Larry, if you're out there listening,
[01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.360]  please go ahead and call back in so we can talk about your issue as well.
[01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.840]  Randy, if you want to go ahead and start taking callers now, we do have a call grant.
[01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:33.320]  Not?
[01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:33.800]  Battery.
[01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:38.600]  Not quite. There was one other thing I did want to talk about.
[01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:43.160]  This I found incredibly interesting when I was in Gold Coast.
[01:04:44.120 --> 01:04:49.160]  We were talking about the foreclosure issues in Australia.
[01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.200]  And I talked to people there about the aboriginals.
[01:04:54.200 --> 01:04:59.320]  As a matter of fact, the aboriginal elders were planning to attend my seminar,
[01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.400]  but something happened that they weren't able to make it.
[01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:09.240]  But apparently, well, let me ask Mark to explain this.
[01:05:09.240 --> 01:05:19.240]  There was a case where the aboriginals paid for an aboriginal's education,
[01:05:19.240 --> 01:05:23.080]  so he could become a lawyer to fight for their rights.
[01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:28.840]  And apparently, he paid them back in spades.
[01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.840]  Will you explain that, Mark, and how it comes about?
[01:05:36.200 --> 01:05:45.240]  Well, the aboriginals have a higher claim to the land than what the competent people have.
[01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:52.120]  So they've made claims through the High Court where they were able to claim back lands.
[01:05:52.120 --> 01:06:01.240]  And so these people are in foreclosure here then by going into the source of what the aboriginals
[01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:09.880]  have regarded here as sovereign because they were the caretakers of the land before the British came.
[01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:14.920]  Much like, I guess, over where you are with the Indian nations.
[01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:22.200]  I mean, they were sovereign before the British and other European nations came there.
[01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:30.600]  But if people go to them and they can sign a deed, like a deed with them,
[01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:47.880]  where they can retain or acquire a title to the property, like a, I can't think of how to describe it, a...
[01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:56.920]  Let me kind of explain the, this is the way they explained it to me, is that a country
[01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:04.920]  could take, at the time the international law was that one country could take over another,
[01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:11.000]  land of another country by conquest or by treaty.
[01:07:12.680 --> 01:07:23.000]  But the British came into Australia and the aboriginals weren't a warlike group.
[01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:24.120]  They didn't fight them.
[01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:32.680]  Well, so there were groups that actually did, actually, but it's not commonology that it's
[01:07:32.680 --> 01:07:36.600]  suppressed. There were groups that actually fought with British and British soldiers,
[01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.760]  not as much as what the New Zealand Mary did, but there were some.
[01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:49.400]  There were some, but essentially what the claim was, I'm sorry, there were three ways you could
[01:07:49.400 --> 01:08:01.320]  take property. One was by conquest, two was by treaty, and the third was if no, he was there.
[01:08:02.120 --> 01:08:08.520]  And what the British claimed is nobody was there and they just came and took over what was otherwise
[01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:15.400]  empty property, but in fact it wasn't. In fact, the aboriginals were there the whole time and they
[01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:21.720]  paid for this aboriginals education so they could become a lawyer and fight for their rights
[01:08:22.280 --> 01:08:31.160]  and did. And there was a mountain that stood on the border between New South Wales and Queensland.
[01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:40.360]  And he first fought on the Queensland side to return the portion of that mountain because
[01:08:40.360 --> 01:08:48.280]  it was a sacred area to the aboriginals there. And apparently the aboriginals in Australia,
[01:08:48.280 --> 01:08:54.680]  unlike the United States where the Indians were always fighting with one another to take
[01:08:54.680 --> 01:09:04.200]  one another's territory, in Australia it was very clearly defined which groups held what property.
[01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:12.440]  These were not easy. They weren't in question. So it was unquestionable that these aboriginals
[01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:19.640]  had a traditional claim to this property. They still do. They still do. And that's what they ruled.
[01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:28.680]  They argued the issue that Australia didn't take this by contract. Neither did they take it by
[01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:35.720]  conquest. They took it based on the fact that nobody was here and that was not true. The
[01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:45.560]  aboriginals were here. The court ruled that their claims didn't stood. So when I heard that and we're
[01:09:45.560 --> 01:10:01.160]  talking about banks that acted under the authority of the Queen, that played title claim to this
[01:10:01.160 --> 01:10:13.000]  property, I'm thinking, wait a minute. The Queen may hold title, but the aboriginals hold actual
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:21.320]  physical ownership. So I was encouraging them to go to the aboriginals and get a contract.
[01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:28.840]  Apparently the aboriginals weren't really crazy about selling land, but they'd lease it to you.
[01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:37.240]  So if you get a lease on the land for the aboriginals, then when the bank comes and says,
[01:10:37.240 --> 01:10:43.320]  I had this title, this is kind of like all these guys that were trying to go to the maritime law
[01:10:43.320 --> 01:10:48.680]  because the maritime lien stood first in line first in time and would step in front of banks.
[01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:56.520]  The aboriginals' claim should step in front of the Queen's claim and the bank can go scratch.
[01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:08.200]  Well, there are people in Bodezir in Queensland that are going through that process right now
[01:11:08.200 --> 01:11:15.720]  in making land claims and we found a big acreage property which before we looked at purchasing
[01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:21.320]  it, we wanted to make sure that it was clear from any aboriginal claim and it is clear. But
[01:11:21.320 --> 01:11:29.000]  surrounding the block in other valleys, there are some valid claims there. So the judicial system
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:34.680]  in Australia does recognise the aboriginal claims as being superior to that of the Queen or the Crown.
[01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:43.960]  So it's very interesting and it is a way to leapfrog standing with banks.
[01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:51.080]  Well, that sounds like it would be a lot of fun to implement.
[01:11:52.280 --> 01:11:58.040]  Okay, we have a couple of callers on the line. If you're ready, Mark, we'll go to some of the
[01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:07.960]  callers. Okay, we're going to go to Grant in Texas. Grant, what do you have for us today?
[01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:13.960]  Yes, this doesn't relate to the guess that you have now. Is that okay?
[01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:16.040]  Yes, that would be fine.
[01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:21.720]  Okay, I just wanted to make sure. Well, I had one really entertaining brief experience to share
[01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:28.360]  and then I had a question. So my friend is fighting a traffic citation in municipal court
[01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:35.480]  and two days ago they were getting set up for the jury trial and as the jurors were leaving the
[01:12:35.480 --> 01:12:44.360]  courtroom during the proceedings, the officer that was the witness for the case held the door open
[01:12:44.360 --> 01:12:49.640]  and smiled at everyone and the jurors thanked him and greeted him. And my friend
[01:12:50.440 --> 01:12:55.480]  did a motion for a missed trial and to make a long story short, but the judge granted it.
[01:12:57.320 --> 01:12:58.920]  Wait a minute, Grant, we're losing you.
[01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:06.920]  Oh, okay. Can you hear me? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, so the judge granted my friend's motion
[01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:13.640]  for a missed trial because he argued that the officer gained a psychological advantage over
[01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:18.280]  the jurors by allowing him the opportunity to open the door for them for the court.
[01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:27.240]  And they put the officer on his stand and the officer said that he was just being,
[01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:32.040]  you know, respectful and courteous. And then my friend made the point where you didn't open
[01:13:32.040 --> 01:13:38.040]  the door for me when I walked in. And so the judge agreed and a missed trial.
[01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:48.040]  Where were you, Grant? This was the municipal court. Get close to the mic, Grant, we're losing you.
[01:13:48.040 --> 01:13:51.640]  Oh, okay. I'm right on the mic. This was the municipal court.
[01:13:51.640 --> 01:14:00.760]  In Austin? Austin Municipal Court. And did you have a jury trial for a traffic matter?
[01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.560]  Right. He was having that. That's interesting. We don't have that.
[01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:12.840]  And so I prepared a bunch of questions for my friend to ask the jurors and he started asking
[01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:19.240]  if it was a criminal or civil offense. And there was actually an attorney that was there and he
[01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:24.920]  said, I think it's a civil and all the jurors raised their hand and said it was a civil and
[01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:29.640]  offense. And then the judge had to correct the jurors and explain, no, we need to go back,
[01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:35.000]  you know, the jury charge that it's actually a criminal offense. And he explained the law.
[01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:41.000]  And but just like I said, make a long story short, when the jury was walking out,
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.320]  this was not at the very end, but this was towards the beginning.
[01:14:44.200 --> 01:14:47.640]  When they were walking out and they were going to continue with the proceedings and pick who was
[01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:54.520]  going to be taken off the jury, the officer opened the door and two of the jurors actually said,
[01:14:54.520 --> 01:15:01.560]  thank you. And after the judge granted the motion for this trial, he asked, I just have to know,
[01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:06.360]  you know, did it affect your decision? And one of the ladies said, you need to be honest with
[01:15:06.360 --> 01:15:12.520]  you, Your Honor. I thought, what a really nice officer. And she said, it kind of bothered me
[01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:19.560]  because I told him, thank you. And then I remember you said not to talk to anyone. So
[01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:27.400]  okay, that surprises me considering that it's Austin. And as
[01:15:29.240 --> 01:15:36.040]  vile as they and I suspect that what he's been doing has been getting their attention.
[01:15:36.040 --> 01:15:43.320]  I think what everyone, well, especially, but I think there's so many people shaking up the system.
[01:15:44.440 --> 01:15:48.840]  So I was there also in the judge to see me that I was observing as a member of the public.
[01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.200]  And I think there's just people that are now keeping them on their toes.
[01:15:56.200 --> 01:16:01.960]  This is absolutely working. Mark, Eddie is our traffic guy.
[01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:08.280]  And he really goes after them. We had one guy that had a
[01:16:08.280 --> 01:16:13.480]  classic misdemeanor from the TSA at the airport over a water bottle.
[01:16:14.360 --> 01:16:19.320]  And the prosecutor came before the court and complained to the court that Mr. Handel
[01:16:20.200 --> 01:16:28.360]  cost the prosecution $80,000. Wow. Because he filed so much in the case.
[01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:33.000]  And Eddie's been helping a lot of people really go after these folks.
[01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:41.480]  And he's really beginning to get the court's attention. Okay, we will be right back.
[01:16:41.480 --> 01:16:48.840]  This is where the count devastated Craig with our radio. I call his number. It's 512-646-1984.
[01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:59.000]  Carlia, get in line and see if you can ask us some hard questions. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:33.800]  I was flying sideways, but now I can see your land. You put the fear in my pockets,
[01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:39.560]  took the money from my hands. I suppose we are back. This is Louisville Law Radio. This is our
[01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:48.840]  Friday night for our marathon. Call in number is 512-646-1984. Randy, you wish to continue.
[01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:56.680]  We were talking to Grant. Grant, you want to continue?
[01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:04.840]  Yes. That was pretty much it with the incident there at the municipal court. Right before he did
[01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:11.000]  listen to the motion for a mistrial, he actually called my friend and the prosecutor into his
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:16.440]  chambers. My friend said he was surprised because the judge had his head down and it looked like
[01:20:16.440 --> 01:20:21.960]  he was kind of worried saying, you know, how are we going to resolve this? And my friend just said,
[01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:27.400]  well, it looks like there's no way of resolving it because the jury has been influenced improperly.
[01:20:28.120 --> 01:20:35.400]  And the prosecutor was trying to say, that's ridiculous. But he said that he actually made the
[01:20:35.400 --> 01:20:42.280]  point when he did his ruling for the mistrial that it was really important that there be no
[01:20:42.280 --> 01:20:49.800]  bias or any tanking of the jury. And when he was dismissing the jury, he mentioned about, you know,
[01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:57.640]  how important the civic duty of serving a jury and the importance of the rule of law, no matter
[01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:03.000]  whether it's a ticket or a felony or anything. So I thought that was interesting. You seem like
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:10.920]  he was a good judge. I think, you know, with experiences that we've had in Travis County,
[01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:17.320]  in Austin, these municipal judges, when Eddie started out, they were absolutely
[01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:23.400]  arrogant and completely disregarded everything. They were just there to collect money.
[01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:30.200]  And then Eddie started teaching people how to go after them and file bar grievances against them.
[01:21:32.040 --> 01:21:37.800]  They hammered in big time. It looks like they're beginning to get their attention.
[01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:44.520]  So much as I have to hate to admit it, Eddie did good.
[01:21:46.120 --> 01:21:50.520]  Well, I'm not so sure it's just Eddie. I mean, these people have to be willing to stand up for
[01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:56.040]  themselves in these courts against these judges. When they fail to do that, it becomes a railroad job.
[01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:05.880]  The point is, we keep applying the pressure. The pressure will begin to affect them. This
[01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:11.640]  pleases me more than I can say. Good. Now, Randy, I had a question also before we move on.
[01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:19.080]  Okay. I'm still here. Yeah, you're still here. Okay. This relates to, unfortunately,
[01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:25.160]  unfortunately, I recently lost a Forcible Detainer trial at County Court. And on Monday,
[01:22:25.160 --> 01:22:32.040]  I have a hearing to set a supercedious bond so that the writ of possession for the property
[01:22:32.040 --> 01:22:39.720]  won't be issued. My question is, can you post a surety bond, sort of like a promise to pay,
[01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:45.400]  as opposed to having to pay a cash bond, if the bond amount is, you know, something ridiculous?
[01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:55.560]  That is an interesting question. Bond, bail. Bond and bail are both the same thing.
[01:22:55.560 --> 01:23:09.560]  As I, so far as I can tell, there is no provision for a cash bond. A bail is a written agreement
[01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:17.720]  where you bind yourself and your property. And that's why this is interesting, because
[01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:25.320]  the whole issue is the property. You know, when I asked for bail at court, the judge issued
[01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:34.520]  bail at a $500 cash, $5,000 cash fee. And I'm saying, wait a minute. You have no authority
[01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:44.120]  to assess a fee. Bail is not money. Bail is a written agreement. And I can post my property
[01:23:44.120 --> 01:23:57.320]  a surety. Well, in this case, the property is the problem. The property is the problem here.
[01:23:58.440 --> 01:24:05.640]  So you can't post that property, but I would suspect you would be able to, if you had
[01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:15.560]  other properties, you should be able to post it as bail. The bond issues, you know,
[01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:21.160]  this is in the criminal side, so it may be somewhat different in civil. And I'm not exactly certain
[01:24:21.160 --> 01:24:27.720]  how that would work. Well, my understanding is, you know, you can do the appeal, but the problem is,
[01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:33.640]  if a rick is executed during the appeal process, then they can basically just possess you
[01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:42.840]  of the property. So the supersede is bond that stays or prevents the execution of that judgment.
[01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:46.520]  That's what I was just saying, how much experience, which I'll know about that, because
[01:24:47.160 --> 01:24:56.280]  I have a hearing on that on Monday. This is something that we haven't had before,
[01:24:56.280 --> 01:25:02.680]  because frankly, we haven't had many people in the state court, and we haven't had many people
[01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:09.320]  bring them up the way you have. Well, thank you. So there's been a few that's got to this point.
[01:25:10.360 --> 01:25:17.320]  So you are getting paid, so when you go through it and they clobber you big time,
[01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.000]  we'll tell everybody else, don't do like this clown.
[01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:30.520]  Right. So don't you feel honored? Yes, to some extent. I do. The other day when I was at the
[01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:35.400]  county court, there was actually an attorney there and told him about what I was doing,
[01:25:35.400 --> 01:25:40.040]  and he gave me his card, and he told me to call and email him anytime, and he's not trying to
[01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:45.800]  pick up new business. He says he's using it for the just cause. So I thought that's interesting.
[01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:50.760]  There's a lot of people that are kind of getting involved, but not just in its make a buck, basically.
[01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:55.720]  Are you saying you had an attorney use the words just cause?
[01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.000]  He said he's in it for the cause.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:01.960]  Ah, but who's?
[01:26:06.040 --> 01:26:10.440]  He was representing another homeowner, and I got to know some of these other people,
[01:26:10.440 --> 01:26:16.120]  so it seems like he's in it. But anyway, he told me to call him anytime, but
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:21.480]  I'll take whatever help I can get from every which angle I can get it.
[01:26:21.480 --> 01:26:29.400]  I agree. And you know, attorneys or human beings like everybody else, at least they
[01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:37.080]  start out human beings. And human beings tend to herd together. They tend to be
[01:26:39.400 --> 01:26:46.040]  affected by the group. So it's in our nature to nurture the group.
[01:26:46.040 --> 01:26:51.960]  It takes it takes some experience to get that worked out of us. So we still actually have some
[01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:58.360]  attorneys that still have these feelings of humanity. And I would certainly like to find a
[01:26:58.360 --> 01:27:06.440]  great of nurture that. Right. Okay. If you if you give me this attorney's number, I'll call him
[01:27:06.440 --> 01:27:11.720]  and I'd like to bring him on the show. Okay. Yeah, that would be good. I do have another
[01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:17.640]  attorney friend that's been helping me about the last four or five months. Someone different
[01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:22.120]  than him. And he's been incredible. So I mean, I've probably talked to him twice a day. And
[01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:29.080]  he's probably wouldn't have gotten as far as I did in the last couple of months, because you know,
[01:27:29.080 --> 01:27:35.240]  I have new issues that come up a little more complex. And he's given me a lot of help. So
[01:27:35.240 --> 01:27:38.760]  there's there's a lot of good people out there that are also attorneys that are helping. But
[01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:45.400]  you just got to be cautious. They're not representing the other side. Exactly. Okay,
[01:27:45.400 --> 01:27:50.600]  do you have anything else for us? No, I think that's it. Just gotta go out there and fight.
[01:27:52.360 --> 01:27:57.240]  Well, thanks a lot. And we do appreciate you. You have been out there kicking butt.
[01:27:57.240 --> 01:28:09.080]  I think. Okay, we're gonna go to Larry in Texas. Larry, I think you have something for Eddie.
[01:28:11.080 --> 01:28:20.360]  Tell us what you got. Eddie, you told me to call in tonight about the case today in court. Yes, sir.
[01:28:20.360 --> 01:28:32.360]  Hello. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Okay, Bob. I went I went to the court today and
[01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:43.720]  had the jury trial today and the it was it was kind of a circus in there, really. I mean,
[01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:50.280]  I did I did like he told me to let the state present its case. And when they're finished,
[01:28:50.280 --> 01:28:57.720]  I stood up and asked asked for the court to rule in my favor, directed verdict in my favor,
[01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:05.080]  because the state failed to prove its case and asked and told the judge I had a written motion.
[01:29:05.080 --> 01:29:13.560]  And at that point, she, the judge said, is that your testimony to the jury? And I said, no,
[01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:24.280]  this is a motion is a motion. And so she kind of deferred to the DA. And I said, this is a motion
[01:29:25.240 --> 01:29:32.680]  for dismissal because the state failed to prove its case as required under 540.
[01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:38.040]  Well, it's a it's a motion for a directed verdict, not a dismissal. But hang on just
[01:29:38.040 --> 01:29:42.360]  a second. We'll pick that up on the other side, Larry. Hang on. Okay. All right, folks,
[01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:49.240]  this is rule of law radio. The call in number is 512-646-1984. Rick, we do see you there.
[01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:53.480]  Please hang on. We'll get to you here momentarily when we're done with Larry. This is Eddie Craig,
[01:29:53.480 --> 01:29:56.760]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens. We'll be right back after this break.
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[01:33:00.440 --> 01:33:08.840]  Craig with Randy Kelton, never Steven. This is our Friday night, four hour info marathon.
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[01:33:14.200 --> 01:33:20.120]  Right now, we're going to go back to Larry in Texas. Larry, just exactly where is your case?
[01:33:22.200 --> 01:33:28.520]  Well, they let the jury go out and deliberate and they came back in and they found me getting
[01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:33.080]  hang on just a second. Where was the case? What city was it actually in? What city and state?
[01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:41.000]  It was Texas, real Vista, Texas. It was a very small town outside of the Cleveland
[01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:47.080]  and which is basically outside of Dallas, Fort Worth area. It's a very small town. There's less
[01:33:47.080 --> 01:33:53.320]  than... Wait a minute. I've been to real Vista. That is not a town. That's a bump in the road.
[01:33:53.320 --> 01:34:01.160]  Yeah, it is. It's very small. It's very small. We looked online and they have, I think,
[01:34:01.160 --> 01:34:13.240]  less than 900 people in the whole town. Anyway, the judge, I used the correct terminology during
[01:34:13.240 --> 01:34:17.960]  court. I did say it was a directed verdict in favor of the defense because the state failed
[01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:34.600]  to prove its case. I cited the 545.351 and the state kept arguing that the section 545.352
[01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:46.200]  prima facie evidence speed limits applied here and that my speed was not reasonable and prudent
[01:34:46.200 --> 01:34:53.720]  under that because I was traveling faster than the postage speed limit to which I quoted the
[01:34:54.840 --> 01:35:03.480]  section 201.904 about the speed signs and who they were meant for. We argued back and forth
[01:35:04.040 --> 01:35:11.400]  over that. This is after the fact that the judge removed the jury from the courtroom.
[01:35:11.400 --> 01:35:21.400]  They didn't want the jury hearing none of that. We argued that and then the judge
[01:35:23.480 --> 01:35:29.240]  denied the motion. She told me, and I'm kind of paraphrasing, but I did quote it to Eddie in the
[01:35:29.240 --> 01:35:38.840]  email I sent him. She did tell me she didn't care what it was I was reading in section 201.904
[01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:43.480]  about the speed signs. She didn't care. She said if she granted the motion
[01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:51.400]  that I submitted, that that would just mean that anybody could speed through the town at 100 miles
[01:35:51.400 --> 01:35:59.400]  an hour and there's no speed limits for anybody. The DA also agreed with that. She denied the motion
[01:35:59.400 --> 01:36:09.240]  and then they called the jury back in and the DA made her closing argument at that time
[01:36:10.200 --> 01:36:19.720]  and after she was done, then I asked to make a closing statement basically and then the DA
[01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:24.280]  and the judge said, well, that's your testimony and I said, no, it's a closing statement
[01:36:24.280 --> 01:36:33.000]  just like the DA just did. The DA argued the point for a moment and finally the judge said,
[01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:37.560]  no, it's a statement. He can say what he wants to say in his closing statement,
[01:36:38.200 --> 01:36:43.960]  which I argued to the jury that the state hadn't proven their case according to the law.
[01:36:45.240 --> 01:36:50.120]  I also quoted the law to the jury in my closing statement because the judge wouldn't let me say it
[01:36:50.120 --> 01:36:59.640]  basically during the trial actually. I quoted it in my closing statement and said that they
[01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:04.600]  hadn't proven it and that the speed limits or the speed signs were actually out there for
[01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:17.160]  commercial vehicles involved in commerce basically. After I finished, the judge asked the jury if
[01:37:17.160 --> 01:37:23.880]  they needed anything before they went to deliberate a verdict and one of the jurors raised her hand
[01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:32.280]  and said, I would like to see the law. The defendant's quoting and the DA immediately jumped
[01:37:32.280 --> 01:37:38.520]  up and said, objection, they can't see that. That's not something that's been submitted into
[01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:46.600]  evidence and I said, this is the law. This is not evidence. This is the law. This is what
[01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:55.400]  y'all are denying the jury to hear and the judge said, no, you didn't submit it into evidence so
[01:37:55.400 --> 01:38:04.440]  they're not allowed to see it and off they went. They came back about 15 minutes later and said
[01:38:04.440 --> 01:38:12.120]  that they found me guilty and they assessed a $100 fine to me and then the judge said,
[01:38:12.120 --> 01:38:19.960]  after that, the judge said, I'm also assessing a $97 fine on top of that.
[01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:24.280]  $97 fine or court costs?
[01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:34.040]  She said that it's done on everything that they do. They have a $97. She didn't say fine. I think
[01:38:34.040 --> 01:38:49.000]  she just said court costs. Did you have it so that the jury judged guilt and punishment?
[01:38:51.400 --> 01:38:59.960]  Did the jury assess court costs? They just said that the guy said that we assessed
[01:38:59.960 --> 01:39:05.240]  a $100 fine plus court cost. Then the judge claimed the court cost.
[01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:15.960]  It was kind of a circus. To me, it just didn't seem like the judge was
[01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:22.680]  current with the law or she didn't want to follow it. I don't know.
[01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:27.800]  Well, you're right on both counts. She's neither current nor does she wish to follow it.
[01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:31.000]  Why did judicial conduct complain to the judge?
[01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:32.440]  Pardon me?
[01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.040]  Why did judicial conduct complain against the judge?
[01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.120]  And prosecutorial misconduct against the prosecutor.
[01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:41.320]  Absolutely.
[01:39:43.320 --> 01:39:52.600]  Okay. Now, I got a question about it because they kept citing this 545.352 of the prima facia
[01:39:52.600 --> 01:40:00.600]  speed limit and I read through it tonight and it keeps referring to passenger cars,
[01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:04.600]  but it looks like to me it's saying passenger cars that are towing something.
[01:40:05.240 --> 01:40:11.880]  Okay. Well, here's the deal. Prima facie means on the face of or on its face,
[01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.640]  first appearance, first glance, take your pick. That's what it means.
[01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:23.880]  Okay. By that definition of loan, a prima facie speed limit is one that at first glance or first
[01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:31.240]  appearance on its face appears to be either reasonable or unlawful. But if there is evidence
[01:40:31.240 --> 01:40:37.640]  contravening that prima facie appearance, then it doesn't hold water anymore. And that's exactly
[01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:45.880]  what 545.351 does. That's what this judge and the prosecutor did not want to face up to.
[01:40:47.320 --> 01:40:53.320]  And they were adamant about it. They were very adamant. And I even spoke to the prosecutor
[01:40:53.320 --> 01:41:00.040]  after the trial. I said, I showed her the law. She said, she goes, look, we don't have, we don't
[01:41:00.040 --> 01:41:05.400]  have to do that. We don't have to do that because it's prima facie evidence of the speed limit.
[01:41:05.400 --> 01:41:12.360]  That's why we don't have to deal with the speed time. And so that's the loaning. Obviously,
[01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:16.120]  this prosecutor does not understand the meaning of prima facie.
[01:41:19.400 --> 01:41:24.200]  They kept throwing around, which was frustrating for me. They kept throwing around saying,
[01:41:24.200 --> 01:41:29.640]  this was the law. This is the law. And I objected every time they said it was a law. I said, show
[01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:34.360]  me and see something. And they just said, well, it's in the record. We can bring it forth if it's
[01:41:34.360 --> 01:41:39.960]  requested. Well, the thing is they're sitting here shouting, it's the law, but there's no evidence
[01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:46.280]  to that effect. And what you should be doing is objecting in that manner. Objection assumes facts
[01:41:46.280 --> 01:41:54.040]  not in evidence and not agreed to. I objected to almost everything they said. And if the judge
[01:41:54.040 --> 01:42:00.520]  overruled everything. Yeah, but did you make a legal objection is the question. If you don't make
[01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:07.480]  a legal objection, the judge can and will ignore you. That's the problem. Just saying objection
[01:42:07.480 --> 01:42:13.000]  without a legal basis isn't an objection. Wait a minute. If you raise an objection
[01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:21.640]  and the judge overrules without asking for explanation, your objection is perfected for appeal.
[01:42:22.360 --> 01:42:29.560]  Okay. When I objected, I used the things that you told me about the, you know, calls for legal
[01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:37.240]  conclusion, you know, points to fact that are not, you know, nothing points to evidence. It's not,
[01:42:37.240 --> 01:42:41.560]  you know, I forget how it was. I wrote it. Assumes the fact not in evidence.
[01:42:43.080 --> 01:42:48.520]  I objected on those ground. I didn't just say objection to every, you know, just right. I'm
[01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:52.600]  just making sure of that. Just for the everybody listening, I need to make sure that everybody
[01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:58.280]  understands that just the word objection alone doesn't do anything. You have to make a proper
[01:42:58.280 --> 01:43:05.000]  legal objection or the judge will ignore you. Yeah. Every, every time I objected, the prosecuted
[01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:12.600]  prosecutor argued why it was, why it was relevant. And then I argued back why it was not relevant,
[01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:18.680]  why it didn't, why it didn't need to be, you know, why I was objecting. And was this a court of record,
[01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:24.840]  Larry? No, sir. It was not. And I tried to record. I had my recorder on my phone going,
[01:43:24.840 --> 01:43:32.040]  but they had the court inside of their city hall and, you know, they have like a big meeting room.
[01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:38.760]  Right. Okay. Hang on. Hang on, Larry. We're going to go to break. We'll finish this up on the other
[01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:43.880]  side. Rick Storm, we see you on the board. So please hang on. We'll be right back. This is Randy
[01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:51.160]  Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio. Call it number is 512-646-1984.
[01:43:51.160 --> 01:43:57.240]  We'll be right back after this break.
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[01:46:20.040 --> 01:46:29.960]  call radio. Again, the call in number is 512-646-1984. Right now, we are talking to Larry in Texas.
[01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:34.600]  Rick Storm, still see you there. Please bear with us just another couple of minutes. All right, Larry,
[01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:41.480]  let's finish up. Okay, that's got three last things about this whole thing.
[01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:49.400]  Afterwards, they told me I could do an appeal which I asked, you know, okay, what's the appeal?
[01:46:49.400 --> 01:46:54.520]  And they said, well, there's an appeal bond. And I said, what's that? And they said it's
[01:46:54.520 --> 01:47:04.120]  $400. So do I have to pay that $400 to make an appeal? Unless you do an informal paupers after
[01:47:04.120 --> 01:47:09.800]  David, yes, they will not grant you your appeal without that. And the problem is, this is the
[01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:17.560]  only time that a bond is required to get an appeal where you cannot use a surety. Does it say
[01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:25.160]  cash bond? It doesn't say anything. They just told me on the phone. Does it say, wait a minute,
[01:47:26.040 --> 01:47:32.280]  Eddie, does it? No, it doesn't. They just won't let you do it. You should be able to use a surety bond
[01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:39.480]  to get it, but they won't give it to you. Okay, then that's an issue we need to attack them on.
[01:47:39.480 --> 01:47:49.160]  If they deny the bond, then they're they're not demanding a cash fee. And they have no authority
[01:47:49.160 --> 01:47:58.440]  to demand a cash fee because if you pay the fee, then that will use up all your funds. And you
[01:47:58.440 --> 01:48:07.800]  won't have funds to secure counsel. And that is exactly the evil that the right to bond in the
[01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:17.320]  Texas Constitution was intended to prevent. Okay, so so what you're saying is, I forgot what you
[01:48:17.320 --> 01:48:23.160]  called that. A surety bond. No, I can't do a surety bond. You said something before that.
[01:48:24.200 --> 01:48:27.720]  They what the court did was assess a fee.
[01:48:29.400 --> 01:48:32.120]  Uh huh. Yeah, that's what they're doing. They're assessing a fee.
[01:48:32.120 --> 01:48:37.480]  No, no, no, he's not talking about the $97. He's talking about that the bond they're telling you
[01:48:37.480 --> 01:48:44.520]  you have to pay is not a bond. It's a fee. But they call it a bond when I ask. We don't care what
[01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:53.320]  listen, listen, what they call it does not change law. If a judge lies to you, the law doesn't change
[01:48:53.320 --> 01:49:01.960]  because the judge lied. A bond is defined in 17 point a bail bond is defined in 17.02 protocol
[01:49:01.960 --> 01:49:11.880]  procedure. It says a bail bond is a written undertaking between the state and the accused.
[01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:23.240]  Now it goes on to say that a person may post United States money in lieu of having sureties
[01:49:23.240 --> 01:49:28.760]  signed the bail bond. That's your option, not theirs.
[01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:38.120]  By forcing you to post United States money, they assess the fee. And that is not an authority
[01:49:38.120 --> 01:49:45.480]  they have. Yeah, the purpose of the bail bond is simply to assure your appearance. Same thing with
[01:49:45.480 --> 01:49:52.120]  the appeal bond. It's to cover the cost of court and everything for the appeal. But as long as the
[01:49:52.120 --> 01:49:58.920]  appeal is outstanding, you are not yet do that fine, because you have the right of appeal.
[01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:05.160]  And you're appealing the fines that were levied against you, forcing you to pay the fines
[01:50:05.160 --> 01:50:10.680]  before you could ever go to appeal. That's just not right. That's not due process.
[01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:19.320]  That's what they do is they assess a punishment for you make making an appeal at double the
[01:50:19.320 --> 01:50:26.520]  amount that it would cost you if you just paid the fine. Yeah, that's what they did. So how do
[01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:33.320]  I get around that? You're going to file a surety bond. And file criminal charges against the judge
[01:50:33.320 --> 01:50:39.960]  for exerting an authority she does not expressly have. You're in Cleveland, take it to Johnson
[01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:52.760]  County. And if you will pull the complaint form off of jurisprudence website. And you take it to
[01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:59.560]  go down to find out when the grand jury meets. Okay, go to the Johnson County Courthouse.
[01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:06.680]  The grand jury meets in the basement. Go down there. There'll be a bailiff standing in front of
[01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:14.520]  the door. You get out of the elevator and look to your right across the hall. A little ways down
[01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:18.280]  there's a hallway. You go in that hallway. The first door goes into the grand jury's
[01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:24.440]  outer foyer. You go in there and there'll be a bailiff standing there. You take a folder,
[01:51:24.440 --> 01:51:29.480]  seal it up, hand it to the you go up to the bailiff and tell the bailiff what your name is
[01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:35.240]  and instruct the foreman that I have business with the grand jury. And he's going to think
[01:51:35.240 --> 01:51:42.920]  that no good Randy Kelton sent this guy down here. I've heard him before talk about that.
[01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:49.640]  Larry, now there is one other important aspect of this. Since this was a court of no record,
[01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:54.280]  you must have your motion for new trial filed by close of business tomorrow.
[01:51:55.560 --> 01:52:00.760]  In a court of no record, you only get one day to file your motion for new trial.
[01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:09.000]  Well, they told me I had 10 days. They lie. Chapter 45, Code of Criminal Procedure. You have
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:16.200]  one day in a court of no record. You only have 10 days if it is a municipal court of record.
[01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:21.240]  Now, if it would have been a court of record, that means they would have had somebody.
[01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:29.080]  That's correct. In there, basically a stenographer in there. Correct. Okay.
[01:52:29.080 --> 01:52:34.680]  Or they would have been there making a record. Or they would be making a tape record.
[01:52:35.400 --> 01:52:39.800]  So I have to make a, well, wait a minute. Tomorrow is Saturday.
[01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:46.040]  Well, I'm sorry. The first business day, which will be Monday. You've got to have it in by close
[01:52:46.040 --> 01:52:50.680]  of business Monday. So I have to make my appeal by close of business Monday.
[01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:55.160]  Oh, no. Listen to what I'm saying. Okay. Your motion for new trial,
[01:52:55.160 --> 01:53:01.320]  you do not have to file the notice of appeal until the motion for new trial has been denied.
[01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:09.480]  Okay. You can file them both together. There's nothing to prevent you from doing that.
[01:53:09.480 --> 01:53:14.920]  But a motion for new trial is absolutely mandatory. You don't file it,
[01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:21.240]  the notice of appeal doesn't mean a thing. Okay. Well, I'll definitely do it. So a motion for
[01:53:21.240 --> 01:53:26.600]  new trial. Okay. I'll do that. Okay. The last two things, and these are real quick and
[01:53:27.320 --> 01:53:33.480]  I just want to tell you that one of the jurors caught me after, after the, she caught me in
[01:53:33.480 --> 01:53:38.920]  the parking lot and she told me that she was convinced and she did try to convince the others
[01:53:39.480 --> 01:53:44.840]  to give a not guilty. And then she tried to convince them just to give me a $1 fine.
[01:53:45.480 --> 01:53:49.480]  Well, she did know that she could just say not guilty and hang the jury, right?
[01:53:49.480 --> 01:53:56.360]  I don't know. They didn't, I don't know. I had read some stuff that said that
[01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:03.160]  that they didn't have to have unanimous. Yes, they do. This is a criminal case.
[01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:08.920]  Okay. They must be unanimous in a criminal case. So she said that they, I guess,
[01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:12.760]  because she said she tried to convince them and they just went with guilty. So I guess because
[01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:18.120]  it seemed that she was pressured. Yeah, that's what I got the feeling from her.
[01:54:18.120 --> 01:54:25.400]  But, and here's the last, the last thing is when I first got there, went in,
[01:54:26.040 --> 01:54:31.560]  checked in, and this was in the court court office, sitting in there. She told me, she said,
[01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:36.040]  there was like four or five other people sitting there. She told me, she said, sign in. She said,
[01:54:36.040 --> 01:54:43.160]  have a seat over there and no talking. So I sat down for a minute and I sat there for a couple
[01:54:43.160 --> 01:54:47.400]  minutes and then I just started talking. So she came over there. She says, sir, I said,
[01:54:47.400 --> 01:54:52.840]  there's no talking. So I said, so there's no first amendment in this, in the courthouse. She
[01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:59.960]  said, sir, there's no talking. I said, so no first amendment in the taxpayer paid for courthouse,
[01:54:59.960 --> 01:55:05.560]  right? And she didn't say nothing else. And she went and got another lady. And then this lady
[01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:12.920]  went and got a cop. The cop comes back in there and they tell, they tell her, tell this cop what
[01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:18.120]  I'm saying. What I'm saying, the cop looks over at me, shrugs his shoulder and walks out.
[01:55:20.360 --> 01:55:24.440]  And after that, the cop's like, so what? You call me for this stupid stuff?
[01:55:25.240 --> 01:55:30.040]  See these, that's one of the problems. These people become dictators. They think they run
[01:55:30.040 --> 01:55:35.400]  everything and they need to be taught different. Yeah. Because when I said first amendment,
[01:55:36.040 --> 01:55:40.920]  and she didn't say after that, everybody just started talking away after hearing me,
[01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:47.320]  because well, good. Hang in there with that. Okay. Do we need anything else from you on your case?
[01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:54.280]  No, I don't know if I haven't heard Deborah tonight, but if she's on, I tell her, I appreciate her
[01:55:54.280 --> 01:56:00.200]  putting that show up from last night. She put it up because I was able to listen to it again this
[01:56:00.200 --> 01:56:05.720]  morning and listen to some of the stuff she said before I left the court. So I go back and
[01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:10.120]  archives and listen to these shows again. So when this thing goes up, I'm going to go back and listen
[01:56:10.120 --> 01:56:15.400]  again right down what y'all told me. Okay. Yeah. You need to get that motion for new trial done.
[01:56:15.400 --> 01:56:19.960]  I can't send you a sample of how to do that. I can send you the one I did for Randy if it's okay
[01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:30.200]  with him. Yeah, that would be great, man. Yes. Yes, that'd be great. I'll send you the one I did
[01:56:30.200 --> 01:56:36.280]  for Randy so you'll see how one needs to be done. Okay. If that's it, Larry, I'm going to go ahead
[01:56:36.280 --> 01:56:42.360]  and take our next caller. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Thanks for calling in. All right.
[01:56:42.360 --> 01:56:48.680]  Let's get to Rick, the legend of California. Rick, what's up, man? How's it going, guys? And I'm
[01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:55.000]  also glad to hear you guys and especially Randy, glad you're back for now. Yeah, it's nice to be out.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:01.320]  You know, I got a friend out here. As a matter of fact, he doesn't be happy in
[01:57:02.120 --> 01:57:09.720]  Shannon County Court. And, you know, got, got, got harassed by the Bonham police
[01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:17.480]  out in Texas. And here's the interesting part. She was basically arrested because she was
[01:57:18.040 --> 01:57:23.560]  allegedly speeding. And they find out, of course, she has a suspended license. So they take her in.
[01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:29.560]  But the interesting part is the cop takes her to the jail, but doesn't put her in jail. He actually
[01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:38.040]  tells her, Hey, if you have so much money, you can get out right now. So she pays money because
[01:57:38.040 --> 01:57:44.280]  her friend was with us. And her friend pays the money. So he lets her go. And yeah, but now she's
[01:57:44.280 --> 01:57:48.280]  paid the fines and everything. And she's not going to have any recourse to go after it in court.
[01:57:48.280 --> 01:57:52.520]  Well, yeah, well, the problem is that she still had, no, no, she, she still gave her the ticket.
[01:57:53.960 --> 01:58:00.680]  So she still went to court for the speeding. Yeah, but if she had, if she paid fines for
[01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:06.280]  outstanding warrants or anything of that nature, then that's going to be considered a settled
[01:58:06.280 --> 01:58:10.760]  issue in the courts. She won't be going to court for those. She'll only go for the new.
[01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:18.840]  Waiter, not necessarily in some cases in this demeanor, the officer is allowed to be supports
[01:58:18.840 --> 01:58:23.640]  him on God. Yeah, but this is California. He just said give him give him this amount of money.
[01:58:23.640 --> 01:58:30.520]  I'm willing to bet he tried to collect everything she allegedly owed. Oh, it isn't Texas. All right,
[01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:36.040]  well, we'll pick that up on the other side. We're going to go to break. This is rule of law radio.
[01:58:36.040 --> 01:58:44.200]  Call in number is 512-646-1984. This is our Friday night for our marathon. We have about
[01:58:44.200 --> 01:58:48.520]  two hours left in the show. So if you have any questions, issues, quandaries or problems,
[01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:53.080]  give us a call and we'll see what we can do. We will be right back after this break.
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