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[00:05.000 --> 00:10.000]  Hundreds of police in riot gear raided the Occupy Oakland 10th City early Monday.
[00:10.000 --> 00:12.000]  Dozens of demonstrators were arrested.
[00:12.000 --> 00:16.000]  Dan Siegel, Oakland Mayor Gene Kwan's old friend and legal advisor,
[00:16.000 --> 00:19.000]  resigned over the police action saying,
[00:19.000 --> 00:24.000]  support Occupy Oakland, not the 1% and its government facilitators.
[00:24.000 --> 00:28.000]  The Supreme Court agreed Monday to rule on Barack Obama's health care law
[00:28.000 --> 00:30.000]  by next July election year.
[00:30.000 --> 00:35.000]  The Obama administration has asked the court to uphold this enterprise insurance provision.
[00:35.000 --> 00:39.000]  26 states have each asked that the entire law be struck down.
[00:39.000 --> 00:45.000]  General Hassan Mughaddam, a commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard,
[00:45.000 --> 00:49.000]  killed Saturday in an explosion at an ammunition depot west of Tehran
[00:49.000 --> 00:52.000]  was a key figure in Iran's missile program.
[00:52.000 --> 00:56.000]  General Mughaddam was killed alongside 16 Guard members.
[00:56.000 --> 01:00.000]  The Revolutionary Guard said the accident occurred while military personnel
[01:00.000 --> 01:03.000]  were transporting munitions.
[01:03.000 --> 01:08.000]  The US government has known for decades of the link between fracking and earthquakes.
[01:08.000 --> 01:11.000]  The US Geological Survey's website states,
[01:11.000 --> 01:15.000]  earthquakes induced by human activity have been documented in a few locations
[01:15.000 --> 01:18.000]  in the United States, Japan and Canada.
[01:18.000 --> 01:19.000]  The article continues,
[01:19.000 --> 01:23.000]  the cause was injection of fluids into deep wells for waste disposal
[01:23.000 --> 01:26.000]  and secondary recovery of oil.
[01:26.000 --> 01:29.000]  The largest and most widely known resulted from fluid injection
[01:29.000 --> 01:32.000]  at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal near Denver, Colorado.
[01:32.000 --> 01:38.000]  In 1967 an earthquake of magnitude 5.5 followed a series of smaller earthquakes.
[01:38.000 --> 01:42.000]  Injection had been discontinued at the site in the previous year
[01:42.000 --> 01:47.000]  once the link between fluid injection and the earlier series of earthquakes was established.
[01:47.000 --> 01:51.000]  Recently a 5.6 earthquake rattled Oklahoma.
[01:51.000 --> 01:54.000]  Matt Skinner of the Oklahoma Corporation Commission,
[01:54.000 --> 01:56.000]  which oversees oil and gas production,
[01:56.000 --> 02:00.000]  said most of the seismic incidents were in Lincoln County
[02:00.000 --> 02:03.000]  where there are 181 injection wells.
[02:03.000 --> 02:09.000]  The LA Times reports a company controlled by billionaire Ronald Perlman,
[02:09.000 --> 02:12.000]  a major political donor, got a no bid contract
[02:12.000 --> 02:16.000]  to supply an experimental remedy for a threat that may not exist.
[02:16.000 --> 02:21.000]  Over the last year the Obama Administration pushed a $433 million plan
[02:21.000 --> 02:24.000]  to buy an experimental smallpox drug,
[02:24.000 --> 02:28.000]  despite uncertainty over whether it's needed or even works.
[02:28.000 --> 02:33.000]  Officials took unusual steps to secure the contract for SEGA Technologies,
[02:33.000 --> 02:38.000]  whose controlling shareholder Ronald Perlman is a longtime Democratic Party donor.
[02:38.000 --> 02:41.000]  SEGA was awarded the no bid contract in May
[02:41.000 --> 02:47.000]  that calls for SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile.
[02:47.000 --> 02:53.000]  The price of $255 per dose is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[02:53.000 --> 02:56.000]  Smallpox was eradicated in 1978
[02:56.000 --> 03:12.000]  and exists only in the locked freezers of a Russian scientific institute and the US government.
[03:56.000 --> 04:01.000]  SEGA was awarded the no bid contract in May
[04:01.000 --> 04:08.000]  that calls for SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile.
[04:08.000 --> 04:14.000]  The price of SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile
[04:14.000 --> 04:20.000]  is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[04:20.000 --> 04:26.000]  The price of SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile
[04:26.000 --> 04:32.000]  is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[04:32.000 --> 04:38.000]  The price of SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile
[04:38.000 --> 04:44.000]  is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[04:44.000 --> 04:50.000]  The price of SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile
[04:50.000 --> 04:56.000]  is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[04:56.000 --> 05:02.000]  The price of SEGA to deliver 1.7 million doses for the nation's biodefense stockpile
[05:02.000 --> 05:08.000]  is well above what government specialists say was reasonable.
[05:08.000 --> 05:14.000]  Good evening, Eddie. Good evening, Deborah. Thank you all very much.
[05:14.000 --> 05:20.000]  I guess I'll just tell a little story about it.
[05:20.000 --> 05:26.000]  Hopefully it will be helpful to the people out there who are getting
[05:26.000 --> 05:32.000]  revenueed a little bit too much or a lot too much.
[05:32.000 --> 05:38.000]  Anyway, I was just earlier this year in March,
[05:38.000 --> 05:46.000]  one day I was traveling southward on South Burr Street here in Austin,
[05:46.000 --> 05:50.000]  right about Sacramento Street.
[05:50.000 --> 05:56.000]  I saw a motorcycle cop coming toward me and he was looking at me kind of funny.
[05:56.000 --> 06:00.000]  I was wondering, gosh, wondering why he's looking at me funny.
[06:00.000 --> 06:08.000]  Actually, it was right at school. It was getting let out and it was a school zone.
[06:08.000 --> 06:14.000]  I was in heavy traffic and had to slow down to 20 miles an hour
[06:14.000 --> 06:18.000]  actually before I got to the school zone.
[06:18.000 --> 06:24.000]  All the cars are traveling south very slow and the cop's coming toward me
[06:24.000 --> 06:26.000]  and he's looking at me funny.
[06:26.000 --> 06:34.000]  And then he turns around and pulls me over. I pull into a parking lot,
[06:34.000 --> 06:36.000]  a private property parking lot.
[06:36.000 --> 06:40.000]  I was looking for private property. That's what Mr. Eddie always says.
[06:40.000 --> 06:42.000]  They'd look for some private property to pull over on.
[06:42.000 --> 06:46.000]  I don't know if there were any cameras there but didn't have too much option.
[06:46.000 --> 06:54.000]  Anyway, the officer says, and I have a little transcript here
[06:54.000 --> 07:00.000]  of the recording of the dialogue between me and the officer.
[07:00.000 --> 07:02.000]  Now this was the recording that you made, right, Jerry?
[07:02.000 --> 07:04.000]  That's correct.
[07:04.000 --> 07:06.000]  This goes to the other thing Mr. Eddie always says,
[07:06.000 --> 07:10.000]  which is don't leave home without your digital recorder.
[07:10.000 --> 07:12.000]  And I didn't.
[07:12.000 --> 07:18.000]  Or I had my digital recorder with me and it was switched on
[07:18.000 --> 07:22.000]  by the time the officer got to the window.
[07:22.000 --> 07:28.000]  And I didn't get a chance to question the officer,
[07:28.000 --> 07:34.000]  the first two questions that Eddie always says people should ask,
[07:34.000 --> 07:38.000]  which are what's the emergency and how can I help?
[07:38.000 --> 07:40.000]  I didn't get to that.
[07:40.000 --> 07:44.000]  But anyway, he says, hi, I'm Officer McDonald with Austin Police Department.
[07:44.000 --> 07:50.000]  I stopped you because you violated the cell phone in a school zone.
[07:50.000 --> 07:54.000]  But he says, do you have a driver's license?
[07:54.000 --> 07:58.000]  I said, yes, sir, but I'm not using it right now.
[07:58.000 --> 08:00.000]  I renewed my driver's license.
[08:00.000 --> 08:02.000]  This is not part of the transcript.
[08:02.000 --> 08:08.000]  I renewed my driver's license a couple of months ago and I also got a Texas ID card,
[08:08.000 --> 08:12.000]  which looks pretty much the same as the driver's license.
[08:12.000 --> 08:18.000]  But anyway, that's what I handed to him while he was asking me these questions.
[08:18.000 --> 08:20.000]  He said, what do you mean?
[08:20.000 --> 08:22.000]  You're driving, right?
[08:22.000 --> 08:24.000]  I said, no, sir, I'm not driving, I'm traveling.
[08:24.000 --> 08:28.000]  He says, you're not driving this vehicle?
[08:28.000 --> 08:32.000]  No, sir, I said, I'm traveling.
[08:32.000 --> 08:34.000]  And I said, am I under arrest?
[08:34.000 --> 08:40.000]  The officer said, you are being detained right now for a traffic stop.
[08:40.000 --> 08:44.000]  And I said, am I free to go?
[08:44.000 --> 08:52.000]  And there was some unintelligible business going on on my recording.
[08:52.000 --> 08:58.000]  I'm suspecting that maybe something on the motorcycle was interfering with my digital recorder,
[08:58.000 --> 09:00.000]  but I'm not sure.
[09:00.000 --> 09:02.000]  I've never heard the recorder do that before.
[09:02.000 --> 09:06.000]  But anyway, I got most of the important stuff.
[09:06.000 --> 09:09.000]  And I said, am I free to go?
[09:09.000 --> 09:11.000]  And the officer said, you're not free to go.
[09:11.000 --> 09:14.000]  And I said, OK, thank you.
[09:14.000 --> 09:23.000]  And the officer asked me, something garbled, and then he said,
[09:23.000 --> 09:29.000]  he was asking me about the cell phone that I was holding in my left hand and holding to my left ear.
[09:29.000 --> 09:31.000]  And I didn't want to answer that.
[09:31.000 --> 09:35.000]  He was asking me what the make and model of it was.
[09:35.000 --> 09:44.000]  And I told him that I did not have assistance of counsel with me at that time,
[09:44.000 --> 09:47.000]  and I can't answer the question.
[09:47.000 --> 09:55.000]  And he just left for a while and came back with a ticket and said, just sign here.
[09:55.000 --> 09:59.000]  It's not an admission of guilt, just a promise you will appear.
[09:59.000 --> 10:01.000]  Have a wonderful day.
[10:01.000 --> 10:09.000]  And that's basically the gist of the stop itself.
[10:09.000 --> 10:19.000]  And so I decided, I mean, it's just pretty ridiculous to just off the record here.
[10:19.000 --> 10:27.000]  I mean, what, are they going to pass a law so that you can't drink coffee
[10:27.000 --> 10:33.000]  and hold something in your hand or you can't scratch your whatever body part?
[10:33.000 --> 10:43.000]  Or, I mean, they might as well, maybe they could pass a law that would require you to superglue your hands to the wheels.
[10:43.000 --> 10:46.000]  That'll keep us all safe.
[10:46.000 --> 10:55.000]  But regardless of the ridiculousness of the law itself, it turns out that it is in the transportation code.
[10:55.000 --> 11:09.000]  And the important part of it is Texas Transportation Code 545.425.
[11:09.000 --> 11:19.000]  And this is 545.425B, except as provided by subsection C,
[11:19.000 --> 11:27.000]  an operator may not use a wireless communication device while operating a motor vehicle within a school crossing zone.
[11:27.000 --> 11:35.000]  And the school crossing zone is defined in section 541.302 of the transportation code as well.
[11:35.000 --> 11:43.000]  And just before this is a definition of wireless communication device,
[11:43.000 --> 11:54.000]  it means a device that uses a commercial mobile service as defined by 47 USC section 332.
[11:54.000 --> 12:03.000]  So they're being very specific that you have to have a wireless communication device in your hand holding it up to your ear.
[12:03.000 --> 12:08.000]  And of course, I mean, you could be holding anything up to your ear.
[12:08.000 --> 12:15.000]  Even if they have a video of you, they can't. How can they prove what you have up next to your ear?
[12:15.000 --> 12:21.000]  On top of that, they still have to prove you're in transportation to commit the offense.
[12:21.000 --> 12:31.000]  Yes, yes indeed. And of course, I was not in transportation, I was not operating in commerce on the public roads.
[12:31.000 --> 12:41.000]  And that's why folks, it's really important to do what Jerry did, which is to have also have an ID card.
[12:41.000 --> 12:46.000]  And what Randy does is he'll present the ID card as he's telling the officer,
[12:46.000 --> 12:51.000]  I have a driver's license, but I'm not using it right now. I don't know, you know, however people want to work it,
[12:51.000 --> 12:55.000]  Jerry didn't present his ID card, but I don't think the officer wanted it anyway.
[12:55.000 --> 13:01.000]  But the important thing is to put it on the record that you are not driving,
[13:01.000 --> 13:08.000]  and that you are not driving a vehicle or a motor vehicle, and to have that on your tape,
[13:08.000 --> 13:11.000]  because on your tape recording, your digital recording, MP3 player, whatever,
[13:11.000 --> 13:16.000]  because the thing is, if you just hand them your driver's license,
[13:16.000 --> 13:21.000]  then that establishes prima facie evidence that you were engaged in commerce on the roadways,
[13:21.000 --> 13:27.000]  and that you were driving. However, if you tell them that you were not driving,
[13:27.000 --> 13:31.000]  and that no, you're not driving a motor vehicle, no, you're not driving a vehicle,
[13:31.000 --> 13:36.000]  you are traveling in your private conveyance, and then you say,
[13:36.000 --> 13:39.000]  officer, if you'd like to see my ID, I can show you my ID.
[13:39.000 --> 13:44.000]  I mean, technically, you don't even have to show the person your ID, the officer ID at that point,
[13:44.000 --> 13:49.000]  but you could offer it, and if the officer demands to still see your driver's license,
[13:49.000 --> 13:54.000]  what you want to try to do, which I think that happened in Jerry's stop,
[13:54.000 --> 13:59.000]  except that that part got garbled, is you want to make the officer say,
[13:59.000 --> 14:05.000]  you want to ask the officer, officer, will I be arrested if I don't present my driver's license,
[14:05.000 --> 14:09.000]  even though I'm not engaged in commerce right now?
[14:09.000 --> 14:14.000]  And if he says yes, and you have that on the tape, then you can say,
[14:14.000 --> 14:22.000]  all right, well, then under duress, I am showing you under duress and threats of unlawful arrest,
[14:22.000 --> 14:29.000]  I am presenting my driver's license, but by no means can this be by me performing this action,
[14:29.000 --> 14:35.000]  can that be construed that I was engaged in any commerce on the roadways at this point in time?
[14:35.000 --> 14:41.000]  And you want to have all of that on tape so that when you go back and you have to sue these people
[14:41.000 --> 14:47.000]  or fight it in court, you've got it hardcore on evidence that the only reason you handed
[14:47.000 --> 14:52.000]  that driver's license over was to keep yourself from being unlawfully arrested.
[14:52.000 --> 14:54.000]  That's correct.
[14:54.000 --> 14:56.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[14:56.000 --> 15:02.000]  All right. After that, I decided that I would fight this ticket,
[15:02.000 --> 15:12.000]  and I filed some documents in the court, at the court clerk's office at the Austin Municipal,
[15:12.000 --> 15:21.000]  and what I filed, I filed a motion for a fair and impartial trial, which is pretty straightforward.
[15:21.000 --> 15:27.000]  It just tells the judge and the prosecutor that I want them to follow the law.
[15:27.000 --> 15:35.000]  And, you know, it's a little more complicated than that, but I won't go into it right now.
[15:35.000 --> 15:47.000]  I filed a motion for, let me see, for them to provide nature and cause,
[15:47.000 --> 15:52.000]  which I've gotten tickets before, and they never are very clear about that.
[15:52.000 --> 15:58.000]  I never have understood why. I mean, it's a requirement in the Texas Constitution.
[15:58.000 --> 16:05.000]  It's a requirement in statute, in the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure,
[16:05.000 --> 16:11.000]  but they never want to give you nature and cause, even when pressed.
[16:11.000 --> 16:19.000]  I've pressed them in court before, and, you know, they just really don't want to tell you.
[16:19.000 --> 16:32.000]  Anyway, I also filed a motion to dismiss with various issues, particularly.
[16:32.000 --> 16:39.000]  All right, I hear some music.
[16:39.000 --> 16:44.000]  All right, folks, when we get back, Eddie and Jerry are going to continue,
[16:44.000 --> 16:52.000]  discuss this case and Jerry's recent victory, and we will be right back after these breaks.
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[20:43.000 --> 20:54.000]  We are talking right now with very special guest Jerry Stevens about his recent win against this bogus traffic ticket
[20:54.000 --> 20:58.000]  about talking on a cell phone in a school zone.
[20:58.000 --> 21:05.000]  I mean, and Jerry, of course you're totally correct that this is ridiculous.
[21:05.000 --> 21:10.000]  We need to, I mean, what kind of laws are they going to pass?
[21:10.000 --> 21:23.000]  Like you said, I mean, are they going to think of every possible conceivable thing to pass a law against to tell us that we can't do this or that?
[21:23.000 --> 21:31.000]  I mean, there's already laws in the books that make it illegal to quote unquote drive in an unsafe manner.
[21:31.000 --> 21:34.000]  So, I mean, this is just ridiculous. It's strictly for revenue purposes.
[21:34.000 --> 21:38.000]  Okay, so go ahead, Jerry, explain what you did with the case.
[21:38.000 --> 21:49.000]  All right, continuing. I filed some documents and, okay, I filed a motion for fair and impartial trial.
[21:49.000 --> 22:09.000]  I filed a motion for to quash the complaint and to quash the citation because the citation was invalid for formatting reasons and the citation is invalid.
[22:09.000 --> 22:14.000]  The complaint is invalid for a number of reasons.
[22:14.000 --> 22:34.000]  I filed a motion to dismiss particularly concerning what I had on, well, particularly concerning transportation, no, code of criminal procedure 45.01B where the defendant is entitled to the notice of a complaint
[22:34.000 --> 22:44.000]  not later than the day before any proceeding in the prosecution of the defendant and that was not done.
[22:44.000 --> 22:51.000]  I mean, they send me a notice for a court hearing, for a pretrial hearing.
[22:51.000 --> 22:57.000]  Why don't they send me the notice of the complaint as well? It makes no sense.
[22:57.000 --> 23:00.000]  Well, because it hadn't been filed, that's why.
[23:00.000 --> 23:07.000]  Well, I think actually by the time they sent me the notice for the pretrial, it had been filed.
[23:07.000 --> 23:13.000]  Yeah, but the first document that you filed on this matter, they had not filed a complaint yet.
[23:13.000 --> 23:14.000]  That's true, that's true.
[23:14.000 --> 23:15.000]  Because I remember that.
[23:15.000 --> 23:17.000]  Okay, anyway.
[23:17.000 --> 23:19.000]  They filed it later.
[23:19.000 --> 23:31.000]  Other issues in that, and just to be clear, all of these documents, there are examples provided in Eddie's seminar.
[23:31.000 --> 23:46.000]  I've been listening to Eddie and Randy and Deborah for quite a while, so I got a good idea of what's going on, how we're being taken advantage of, and how we're being deceived.
[23:46.000 --> 23:56.000]  And anyway, these motions are available, the ideas for these documents are in Eddie's seminar.
[23:56.000 --> 24:10.000]  And also, I've gotten a lot of really good information from going to Eddie's classes, or if you want to call it a seminar on Sundays, down at Brave New Books from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. every Sunday.
[24:10.000 --> 24:21.000]  Yeah, and folks, if you want the court documents that Jerry used to win his case, then you need to get the seminar package, Eddie's seminar, that he offers online.
[24:21.000 --> 24:33.000]  Okay, other issues in that motion to dismiss other than what I just went over, about 45.01b, where I'm entitled to a notice of complaint, not later than a day before any proceeding.
[24:33.000 --> 24:41.000]  Also, the issues in that document are that there was no valid summons.
[24:41.000 --> 24:49.000]  A summons needs to be issued by a court personnel, not an officer.
[24:49.000 --> 24:55.000]  There was really no proper service of that process, or any process, really.
[24:55.000 --> 25:03.000]  Available administrative remedies were not exhausted according to law.
[25:03.000 --> 25:14.000]  Really, any traffic citation needs to be handled administratively before it goes to court.
[25:14.000 --> 25:28.000]  An arrest without a warrant is unlawful, no matter how they try to get around that. They do obviously try to get around that with trickery.
[25:28.000 --> 25:38.000]  There was no proper charging instrument, which specifically relates to an information.
[25:38.000 --> 25:50.000]  They're required by constitution and statute to provide you with a proper charging instrument, in other words, an instrument which is based on a complaint.
[25:50.000 --> 25:59.000]  And there are good reasons for that, which I, just for time's sake, I won't go into.
[25:59.000 --> 26:10.000]  Also, I filed a motion concerning that the city attorney is not authorized to prosecute in the name of the state.
[26:10.000 --> 26:18.000]  And just to make a long story short, it's because he has no public accountability.
[26:18.000 --> 26:22.000]  Hey, you have been reading my paper.
[26:22.000 --> 26:34.000]  Yes, thank you. All right. So that's basically, I also filed a motion for discovery.
[26:34.000 --> 26:38.000]  I wanted to find out what evidence they had.
[26:38.000 --> 26:53.000]  And so I get to the pre-trial and our friend, Ms. Judge Statman, was presiding and prosecutor was John Wall.
[26:53.000 --> 26:58.000]  And prosecutor, as usual, did nothing, said nothing.
[26:58.000 --> 27:09.000]  It seems like the judge was acting as the prosecutor and the judge had already decided before she got to that trial what motions she was going to deny out of hand.
[27:09.000 --> 27:21.000]  And she just read her little order right there from the bench, I guess, because she only wanted the hearing to take a few minutes.
[27:21.000 --> 27:28.000]  And that's pretty much all it took. But she denied all of my motions out of hand.
[27:28.000 --> 27:34.000]  She said that, you want me to read, you read this a while back, Eddie.
[27:34.000 --> 27:47.000]  Yeah, tell, I want you to read the transcript of the hearing and what she said and what she's accusing people of, namely the part about practicing law, skating a thin ice of practicing law without license.
[27:47.000 --> 27:54.000]  Here we go, here we go.
[27:54.000 --> 28:03.000]  All right, Judge Statman says, on the record cause number yada yada, this case is titled State of Texas versus Gerald Stevens.
[28:03.000 --> 28:12.000]  In this case, multiple motions were submit in this case file, multiple motions and documents.
[28:12.000 --> 28:20.000]  They are poorly drafted, improperly titled and contain arguments without any legal merit, Ms. Statman.
[28:20.000 --> 28:33.000]  I don't think so. All right, continuing. They appear to have come from a group of motions that have been submit.
[28:33.000 --> 28:46.000]  This is a transcript. To this court in the past, there appears to be a group of people skating on the very thin ice of practicing law without a license.
[28:46.000 --> 28:52.000]  Now, what is she trying to say there? She's trying to say that I don't have a right to defend myself.
[28:52.000 --> 29:07.000]  If I don't have a lawyer, I'm practicing law without a license. Hello. All right, the assistance provided to you as a defendant is no help at all.
[29:07.000 --> 29:29.000]  I'm going to admonish you of this, the Texas Rules of Criminal Procedure, Section 1.052E. When you sign and submit documents in this court, you represent that one, you have read the documents and two, to the best of your knowledge after reasonable inquiry,
[29:29.000 --> 29:41.000]  you are presenting to the court that this is not groundless, not in bad faith, or for purposes of harassment or delay.
[29:41.000 --> 29:46.000]  And I'll continue that on the other side if we've got time.
[29:46.000 --> 29:57.000]  All right, folks, we'll be right back. We're here with very special guest, Jerry Stevens, and we are discussing his recent victory in court and how you can do the same.
[29:57.000 --> 29:59.000]  We'll be right back.
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[32:22.000 --> 32:51.000]  Okay folks, we are back. We're here with Jerry Stevens. Right now he's going over what happened at the pre-trial where the judge basically denied all of his motions, his pre-trial motions out of hand.
[32:51.000 --> 32:58.000]  We went over that already, except for one concerning discovery, and Jerry's going over what happened at the pre-trial, so Jerry please continue.
[32:58.000 --> 33:15.000]  Okay, I'm reading the transcript from the trial here, and I just went over where the judge said she's going to admonish me concerning Texas Rules of Criminal Procedures section 1.052,
[33:15.000 --> 33:35.000]  where when you sign and submit documents to the court, you represent that you've read the documents, the best of your knowledge that after reasonable inquiry you are presenting to the court that this is not groundless, not in bad faith, or for purposes of harassment or delay.
[33:35.000 --> 33:56.000]  None of those apply to me, but anyway, filing additional junk for lack of a better terminology, motions or pleadings can result in sanctions against you, so it's just a threat is all it is.
[33:56.000 --> 34:06.000]  She threatened Jerry with sanctions for filing motions and documents with the court in his own defense and threatened him with sanctions under this certain...
[34:06.000 --> 34:11.000]  Which section of the Code of Criminal Procedure, Jerry?
[34:11.000 --> 34:14.000]  Section 1.052e.
[34:14.000 --> 34:28.000]  Which Jerry just read, and Jerry was not filing any documents for the purpose of harassment or delay or any of those other things, he wasn't anywhere near practicing law without a license, he was defending himself as a pro se litigant.
[34:28.000 --> 34:43.000]  So here we have this Statman, Judge Statman, who we've talked about before, totally rogue, totally out of control, now throwing out empty threats, and so Jerry please continue with the transcript.
[34:43.000 --> 34:55.000]  I'd like to interject here, every time I've been down to the court and I've watched Judge Statman in action, she really does remind me of the Scarecrow and the Wizard of Oz singing if I only had a brain.
[34:55.000 --> 35:05.000]  Because you can tell by what she's doing and what she's saying, this woman has never read the law, never.
[35:05.000 --> 35:07.000]  It appears not.
[35:07.000 --> 35:12.000]  Yeah, and it also appears maybe she's taking direction from somebody else too.
[35:12.000 --> 35:17.000]  Well, I want to find who that somebody else is and make them regret the association.
[35:17.000 --> 35:24.000]  Well, she's the one who said these things, so, you know, I've got to get harmed by her.
[35:24.000 --> 35:31.000]  She's on the hook because she said them, even if somebody else is telling her to say them, but yes, we need to find out who's bossing her around.
[35:31.000 --> 35:44.000]  Well, keep in mind, this is the same judge who during the TSA trial with Mike Handel ordered the city marshal to prevent any and all media personnel from entering the courtroom.
[35:44.000 --> 35:45.000]  That's right.
[35:45.000 --> 35:47.000]  She's a little Nazi too, huh?
[35:47.000 --> 36:02.000]  Yeah, not to mention when the reporter that was barred from the room and she looked directly at me because prior to coming back into the court, I'd been down in the lobby interviewing with these guys on camera about what was going on.
[36:02.000 --> 36:10.000]  I get back to the courtroom and she comes in, stands up on her little dais wanting to be worshiped in states to the parlor.
[36:10.000 --> 36:21.000]  If there are any media personnel in this room and she glares right at me, when I call the court to order, they will be cited for contempt.
[36:21.000 --> 36:24.000]  I just sit there, stare at her and grin real big.
[36:24.000 --> 36:26.000]  Let's see you make that one fly, judge.
[36:26.000 --> 36:27.000]  Go ahead.
[36:27.000 --> 36:29.000]  But I never got up and left.
[36:29.000 --> 36:30.000]  I wasn't going anywhere.
[36:30.000 --> 36:46.000]  And then the reporter that she actually did bar complained to a district judge who called the head administrative judge down there and told her just exactly what is it you people think you're doing in that circus you're running.
[36:46.000 --> 36:47.000]  Is that what he said?
[36:47.000 --> 36:49.000]  That's what he said.
[36:49.000 --> 36:52.000]  And then he chewed her up one side and down the other.
[36:52.000 --> 37:08.000]  And then the head administrative judge obviously chewed statement up one side and down the other because she sent an email almost immediately to this reporter saying, oh, it's the city marshals fault and the other employees fault.
[37:08.000 --> 37:11.000]  They misunderstood what I instructed them to do.
[37:11.000 --> 37:12.000]  Yeah, I don't see lady.
[37:12.000 --> 37:15.000]  They didn't misinterpret a thing.
[37:15.000 --> 37:18.000]  I sat right there and heard what you told them to do.
[37:18.000 --> 37:22.000]  You freaking little skirt wearing Nazi.
[37:22.000 --> 37:28.000]  You ordered them to keep them out of the court so they wouldn't report on the kangaroo shenanigans.
[37:28.000 --> 37:31.000]  You were building into your own little process.
[37:31.000 --> 37:35.000]  That's exactly what happened.
[37:35.000 --> 37:40.000]  It's kind of like they're all acting like rats in the corner.
[37:40.000 --> 37:48.000]  Now, Eddie, how did you find out about what this administrative judge told Statman and what the district judge told the administrative judge?
[37:48.000 --> 37:58.000]  Because Mary Krenick was in direct contact with the reporter in question and he informed her of the email that he had received from Judge Statman in relation to this.
[37:58.000 --> 38:02.000]  And at the same time told Mary what it was he had done.
[38:02.000 --> 38:14.000]  And he had contacted the administrative judge and then he rechecked later with the administrative judge who told him what he had done to the administrative judge.
[38:14.000 --> 38:19.000]  So we basically kept everything in a tight knit little circle of no hearsay.
[38:19.000 --> 38:23.000]  The reporter himself was saying what he had done with the district judge.
[38:23.000 --> 38:31.000]  The district judge was telling him back what he had done to the administrative judge and the email from Judge Statman told us what she was lying through her teeth about.
[38:31.000 --> 38:33.000]  Yes, so we've seen the emails, folks.
[38:33.000 --> 38:34.000]  Okay.
[38:34.000 --> 38:35.000]  All right, Jerry.
[38:35.000 --> 38:36.000]  So go ahead.
[38:36.000 --> 38:39.000]  Please continue with the transcript of the kangaroo court.
[38:39.000 --> 38:40.000]  Okay.
[38:40.000 --> 38:43.000]  I'm just going to paraphrase the rest of the transcript.
[38:43.000 --> 38:50.000]  Basically what she said was that she was going to grant the motion for discovery.
[38:50.000 --> 39:01.000]  And she told me I had three minutes to put objections on the record.
[39:01.000 --> 39:09.000]  And so I put my main objection on the record that was on the top of my mind.
[39:09.000 --> 39:16.000]  There were certainly many objections, but under the gun there I just brought out.
[39:16.000 --> 39:25.000]  Let me see, I said I object, I have received absolutely no notice of the alleged charge against me, and that is a fatal error.
[39:25.000 --> 39:36.000]  As per Texas Code of Criminal Procedure 45.018b, I am entitled to notice of any alleged charge against me one day prior to any proceeding.
[39:36.000 --> 39:38.000]  And this is a proceeding.
[39:38.000 --> 39:40.000]  And I have received no notice.
[39:40.000 --> 39:44.000]  I moved the court to dismiss this case with prejudice.
[39:44.000 --> 39:50.000]  The judge says, does the prosecution wish to make any response to this?
[39:50.000 --> 39:56.000]  Prosecutor, if he'd like me to print a complaint, I can do that now.
[39:56.000 --> 39:59.000]  And I said, that's too late.
[39:59.000 --> 40:03.000]  The judge says, well, my ruling stands.
[40:03.000 --> 40:18.000]  And so the prosecutor comes over to me and says, do you want me to ask the officer if there's any videos?
[40:18.000 --> 40:25.000]  Because that will be the only thing that we will provide you if it's there other than the complaint and the citation.
[40:25.000 --> 40:38.000]  And he said, sure, and he comes back and he says, as the officer was on a motorcycle, he does not have an in-dash cam, an in-dash camera, I guess that means.
[40:38.000 --> 40:53.000]  And subsequently, to your stop, they have been issued personal digital cameras that are mounted on their bodies, but that was after your stop, so there is no video of the stop itself.
[40:53.000 --> 40:56.000]  And I can put that in writing if you'd like.
[40:56.000 --> 40:59.000]  So he asked me if I wanted in writing.
[40:59.000 --> 41:06.000]  I never got it in writing, and that became an issue later.
[41:06.000 --> 41:10.000]  And I kind of got ahead of myself here.
[41:10.000 --> 41:22.000]  There was another important issue that the court tried to pull something else earlier on when I made my first appearance according to the date on the citation.
[41:22.000 --> 41:37.000]  I brought motions and filed them with the court clerk at the municipal, and of course the court clerk says that she wants me to plea, and I said, I'm not going to plea.
[41:37.000 --> 41:39.000]  There's nothing to plea to.
[41:39.000 --> 41:54.000]  And so, and another, her supervisor came out and seemed all worried and wringing her hands and, you know, told me that I needed to make a plea, and I said, well, no, I'm not going to plea.
[41:54.000 --> 41:56.000]  And she said, okay.
[41:56.000 --> 42:10.000]  And then, I guess a few weeks later, I got a warrant for my arrest in the mail. No, not a warrant, a notice of impending warrant or something like that.
[42:10.000 --> 42:12.000]  I don't have that in front of me.
[42:12.000 --> 42:33.000]  But what that notice said was that the warrant was because I failed to appear. And after making some, Deb went down to the court to get my file at that point to get copies of everything that was in the file.
[42:33.000 --> 42:49.000]  And after just arguing with court clerks on the phone, one of the main court clerks finally passed this in front of a judge who dismissed the warrant.
[42:49.000 --> 43:08.000]  That's right. I talked to him on the phone and I got passed around between a few different supervisory types of court clerks and I told them, hey, listen, this needs to get straightened out or somebody's fixing to get sued, okay, because Jerry appeared, all right.
[43:08.000 --> 43:19.000]  He appeared by filing documents. And now there's a warrant for his arrest. And see, the weird thing about it was that the warrant was actually for the citation.
[43:19.000 --> 43:28.000]  It was as if they had a warrant for his arrest for the charge of talking on a cell phone in a school zone.
[43:28.000 --> 43:39.000]  And we were like, what? Why would they be charging him? Why would they put in our warrant for him for that? And then on the notice of warrant that Jerry got in the mail, it said failure to appear.
[43:39.000 --> 43:49.000]  And so, okay, so the warrant technically wasn't for failure to appear. It was the warrant was for the citation as if he hadn't signed the ticket.
[43:49.000 --> 43:58.000]  Okay, so this is a whole big scheme that they got going in order to try to pressure people into playing. We'll be right back.
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[46:18.000 --> 46:25.000]  Okay, folks, this is the rule of law, ruleoflawradio.com. All right, we're here with my husband, very special guest, Jerry Stevens.
[46:25.000 --> 46:40.000]  We're talking about how he beat the traffic ticket, and I did assist at one point. This was earlier on, this was before, yeah, sorry, we're getting a little bit out of chronological order here, but this was an important part of the whole case, where this happened before the pre-trial.
[46:40.000 --> 46:50.000]  Wait, you're talking about the warrant for not pleading? Yeah, the whole warrant thing. Yeah, the warrant for not pleading, but that's not what they say it is, because of course they can't require you to plead.
[46:50.000 --> 47:04.000]  So then if you don't plead, they want to say that you don't make an appearance. But they know that they can't actually issue a warrant for failure to appear, because it is so blatantly obvious that Jerry did appear.
[47:04.000 --> 47:20.000]  And so when they issue the warrant, the warrant is for the charges of the citation. Now, folks, this is why you want to sign the back of the traffic ticket, because when you sign it, all you're doing is promising to appear.
[47:20.000 --> 47:41.000]  That is it. And if you don't sign that, then they will, can and will arrest you for the charges of the citation itself. And that's when, after the fact, there would be a warrant produced, and it would say exactly what happened in Jerry's case, where it's a warrant for the traffic charges.
[47:41.000 --> 47:58.000]  So they issue this warrant for the traffic charges, which is impossible under this situation, because Jerry signed the back of the ticket. They can't issue a warrant for the charges of the whatever traffic law they say he broke.
[47:58.000 --> 48:13.000]  But that's what they did. And then on the notice of warrant that he got in the mail, it says for failure to appear. And so then I call around and I get passed around between different court clerks, and one of them said, one of the higher up ones that actually ended up fixing the problem said,
[48:13.000 --> 48:35.000]  well, did he enter a plea? And I said, no. And he's not required to either. Under law, you are not required to enter a plea at any point in time, not even in the trial. At some point in time, the judge can enter a plea for you, but you don't have to enter a plea ever if you don't want to.
[48:35.000 --> 48:48.000]  Especially if there's not a complaint against him. Especially. And I told the lady at the, I haven't written down here in my notes. I don't remember what her name is right now. I told her, I said, of course, he's not going to enter a plea.
[48:48.000 --> 49:00.000]  There was no complaint. He could be plain to murder for all he knows. He's not going to enter a plea until he knows the nature and cause of the charges against him. And she's like, okay, well, let me see what I can do.
[49:00.000 --> 49:20.000]  And amazingly enough, we actually got this problem resolved over the phone. She ended up, I think she knew that we meant business and that we weren't going to put up with this little charade of theirs about entering the issuance of warrants basically as intimidation to make you plea.
[49:20.000 --> 49:43.000]  And so she got it fixed. She got the warrant and the whole situation brought in front of some other municipal judge that got the warrant stricken. But funny enough, when you look at the warrant and it said to come before, you know, it orders, you know, peace officers to arrest Jerry and bring him before such and such judge.
[49:43.000 --> 49:54.000]  Well, the first thing we thought is, well, then we should just go into the court when this particular judge is in session and resolve the situation there.
[49:54.000 --> 50:09.000]  Well, I call and I find out that that particular judge, he never holds court in public. His court hearings are held inside the jail. And so there would have been no way for us to actually go up in front of that judge.
[50:09.000 --> 50:25.000]  But all courts are public. Oh, I know. So anyways, that got resolved. Okay, so now back to the story, back to the timeline. All right, so this pre-trial happens and Jerry's discussed the, you know, the intimidation session by Statman.
[50:25.000 --> 50:36.000]  And, okay, so Jerry, please continue. And I was promised the discovery in writing. That's right, the discovery. And I never got the discovery in writing.
[50:36.000 --> 50:58.000]  And they sent me a notice for a trial on the merits. And before that trial on the merits, I filed a motion to, for continuance, because I hadn't gotten any written discovery saying that there was no evidence.
[50:58.000 --> 51:05.000]  Even if there had been evidence, it would have, would not have been enough to prove that I was on a, quote, wireless device, unquote.
[51:05.000 --> 51:21.000]  Well, hey, and just one more thing, I just want to break in here for a second. Concerning their scheduling of your jury trial, Statman never asked at the pre-trial if you wanted a trial by jury or a bench trial.
[51:21.000 --> 51:26.000]  She never even told you at the pre-trial if you were even going to get a trial.
[51:26.000 --> 51:41.000]  That's right. I mean, I expected that I would get a trial, but usually you get asked whether you want a jury trial or a bench trial. She didn't ask, but it just came out that there was a jury trial scheduled.
[51:41.000 --> 51:48.000]  So that's good. You always want a jury trial. That's something that I have learned through the experience.
[51:48.000 --> 52:02.000]  Okay, so Jerry, the prosecutor never gives you the discovery, which basically is in writing. He was supposed to put down, he was supposed to give you something in writing saying that they had no audio or video of the traffic stop.
[52:02.000 --> 52:03.000]  That's correct.
[52:03.000 --> 52:12.000]  And that never happened. You filed a motion for continuance based on that, but you also filed some other documents, a motion to quash the complaint and a motion to quash the citation.
[52:12.000 --> 52:27.000]  Yeah. Well, they were just, I had already filed a motion to quash the complaint, which got denied, but I filed an updated one that had the information concerning the invalid citation because of formatting issues.
[52:27.000 --> 52:38.000]  And also that motion for continuance had a motion for sanctions against the prosecutor for not doing his job.
[52:38.000 --> 52:41.000]  And you also filed a motion to quash the citation.
[52:41.000 --> 53:06.000]  Yes. And so come around the time for trial, I show up and evidently something's going right for us because there are a lot of people requesting jury trials and there were probably 15 people in that room at least that were on that date and that time expecting a jury trial.
[53:06.000 --> 53:31.000]  And the judge told everybody that they may have to wait, that he can only do one trial there that day and they got around to calling my name and the state said that, or the state, the prosecutor's secretary said that they had a motion to dismiss for my case.
[53:31.000 --> 53:46.000]  So, you know, they're rats in the corner, they're fighting hard to intimidate you, but if you keep it up, if you keep up the pressure, they just fold like house of cards.
[53:46.000 --> 53:54.000]  Now, Jerry, you had also refiled some of the motions, like the motion to dismiss that had gotten denied.
[53:54.000 --> 54:02.000]  Well, yeah, I just refiled them. There were a couple of little mistakes in them that I wanted to preserve the record for appeal.
[54:02.000 --> 54:03.000]  Right, right, right.
[54:03.000 --> 54:22.000]  Because I fully expected to go through a whole jury trial and lose and file an appeal and eventually possibly get to the point where I could sue the city and the judge in her personal capacity.
[54:22.000 --> 54:24.000]  And you still can.
[54:24.000 --> 54:37.000]  Yeah, I still can. I'm pretty sure I'm going to file a suit against Judge Statman here pretty soon.
[54:37.000 --> 54:46.000]  There was something, I'm trying to remember, there's something else crucial that I'm leaving out, but I'm not thinking of what it is.
[54:46.000 --> 54:51.000]  Well, there is something about Judge Statman's comments I would like to address.
[54:51.000 --> 54:52.000]  Please.
[54:52.000 --> 55:01.000]  I found out Sunday that I've been running on an assessment of about four dozen cases as wins with only two losses.
[55:01.000 --> 55:07.000]  Now it turns out that we've got more than five dozen wins with only three losses.
[55:07.000 --> 55:24.000]  So if all of the arguments and information in these motions is without merit, without any force and effect in law and so on and so forth, why have we won 70 some odd cases?
[55:24.000 --> 55:26.000]  Good question. You go, Eddie.
[55:26.000 --> 55:35.000]  So why is our meritless arguments garnering so many dismissals in these courts?
[55:35.000 --> 55:38.000]  Because they're spot on, Eddie.
[55:38.000 --> 55:45.000]  Well, I've worked hard to make sure they are. Everything I argue is straight out of their own statute.
[55:45.000 --> 55:52.000]  If anybody in that room doesn't have a clue what they're talking about, it's the one wearing the black robe.
[55:52.000 --> 55:53.000]  Amen.
[55:53.000 --> 56:05.000]  I mean, I read everything that I signed and submitted. Everything that I submitted, I was sure, had a basis in law.
[56:05.000 --> 56:16.000]  I mean, what? I don't get it. Well, I do get it, but they just don't have a leg to stand on.
[56:16.000 --> 56:24.000]  You know, the whole thing is a charade and come on, people, let's get out here and take them to task. They're making too much money.
[56:24.000 --> 56:41.000]  Well, I tell you, it is good news. You know, and Jerry, probably most of the other 14 people there at the court that day who were expecting jury trials, they weren't people from our quote unquote group, you know, but the good news is, is that people are not putting up with this anymore.
[56:41.000 --> 56:47.000]  They're not just rolling over and saying, well, I just got to pay and to just go on.
[56:47.000 --> 56:49.000]  I don't have time for this.
[56:49.000 --> 56:50.000]  Right.
[56:50.000 --> 57:04.000]  I mean, I say that to myself. My plate is full, but this is important, people. This is basic. They need to be taken to task.
[57:04.000 --> 57:12.000]  They're operating unlawfully and we just have to stand up. That's all there is to it.
[57:12.000 --> 57:16.000]  Exactly.
[57:16.000 --> 57:17.000]  We think, Eddie.
[57:17.000 --> 57:21.000]  Eddie, what can Jerry, what can Jerry go back and sue him for?
[57:21.000 --> 57:25.000]  Right now, malicious prosecution is top of the heap.
[57:25.000 --> 57:34.000]  You can also get them for official oppression, abuse of official capacity, criminal conspiracy, and so on and so forth.
[57:34.000 --> 57:46.000]  There's a whole slew of things that they're criminally done, all of which give us a cause of action at the federal level under Title 42, 1983.
[57:46.000 --> 57:54.000]  All right, I'll just roll out my jurisdiction area and review it.
[57:54.000 --> 58:01.000]  Now, folks, remember all of these documents that Jerry used to get his traffic ticket dismissed.
[58:01.000 --> 58:06.000]  You can get as part of Eddie's seminar package.
[58:06.000 --> 58:13.000]  Now, the seminar package is $250 and that includes the two day.
[58:13.000 --> 58:23.000]  It's almost 16 hours of audio of the class that was taught about a year ago where Eddie goes over the statute and teaches how to read statute.
[58:23.000 --> 58:27.000]  In general, how to read that particular statute.
[58:27.000 --> 58:41.000]  And it also comes with a big heap and set of documents, motions, objections, everything that you need to win your traffic ticket case in court.
[58:41.000 --> 58:50.000]  And of course, the classes that he teaches on Sundays at Brave New Books, that teaches you how to actually maneuver and function in court.
[58:50.000 --> 58:53.000]  So if you want the documents, you need to get the seminar package.
[58:53.000 --> 58:55.000]  All right, thank you very much for joining us tonight, Jerry.
[58:55.000 --> 58:56.000]  You're very welcome.
[58:56.000 --> 58:59.000]  All right, we'll be right back, folks. Take your call.
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[01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty. I read his book and it says, cares for the upside-down.
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[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  Next we are back. That was Mr. Jerry Stevens, my husband. He just won his traffic ticket in court, beat it big time, hands down, didn't even have to go through the trial because the prosecutor had a motion to dismiss the day of the trial, probably for many reasons.
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:05.000]  One of the reasons I think is because Jerry had filed this motion for sanctions because the prosecutor hadn't given Jerry the discovery that he was supposed to.
[01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:23.000]  And then of course also everything else is just so spot-on. I think these guys and gals or as Harman Taylor calls them, the boys and girls with a Z, they just don't wanna mess with us anymore. I mean it's just too much trouble and we're giving them too much of a hard time.
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:41.000]  We have to deal with the easy pick-ins. So at any rate, that is highly good news. Now Eddie's just saying that he's had over 70-something cases that he's won, that his students have won, but only three losses.
[01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  That's a pretty good track record. All right, we're taking your calls now in this hour. If you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984. We're going now to Pam in Texas.
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.000]  Pam, thank you for calling in. What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:05.000]  Hi Deborah, let me tell you that was a fascinating segment here with Jerry explaining what went on there. I really appreciated hearing that.
[01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  Oh, thank you. Yes, and I'm calling this a legal snafu in Williamson County, ghost figure. My daughter's boyfriend, actually ex-boyfriend, they're still roommates, but he had started on some prescription medications back in March.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  This is a good kid. By the way, he's 25 years old, never a troublemaker, but he was having some anxiety. So he went and he got on prescription medication.
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:52.000]  And I remember the day he brought them in and I said, don't take that stuff. Let's try to work with your diet first. Let's do everything we can and use that as a last resort.
[01:06:52.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  Anyway, he started taking these things and he's kind of been on a bit of a downhill slide since. And I'm going to tell you, things are, I now am beside myself and I've got to find something useful in the next 24 hours to help this kid.
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  I'll give you a little bit of a timeline to explain how it got here. October 12th, he was in his own apartment alone. My daughter was at work and he took an improper amount of his medicine and we don't know why.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  And we didn't know exactly what the amount is. We just know what he later said. But he took some excess medication and then some friends of his, well, one friend of his stopped by his apartment with three people he didn't know.
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  And they knocked on the door. He didn't answer. And then they tried the door knob and walked right on in and found him either sleeping or passed out naked in the living room, which is not usual for him.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  And they tried to wake him and get him to go to bed thinking that he maybe, they didn't know. They thought maybe he had drank something. But when they woke him up, they found out quickly he wasn't intoxicated, but he wasn't in his right mind either.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:30.000]  And he was having a lot of trouble distinguishing what was real and what was not real. And he was talking about television show as if he was part of it and on and on.
[01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  Those people were concerned for him. So they called one of his former roommates to come check on him and make sure that he was going to be okay.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  And then they left. So in comes a shift of three new people, the former roommate, his girlfriend and their little girl, and they're there checking on him and trying to get him to lie down in bed.
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:07.000]  And my daughter was also called at work during this time. Now, she knew that the former roommate, having to check on him, had to be at work.
[01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  So she called yet another person that she thought could be helpful. And it was a loose friend of hers with some experience working in mental health.
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  So along comes shift number three, which is this mental health gal and her boyfriend. And somewhere along the way, Alan, the one found in his apartment, was just really losing touch with reality.
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:50.000]  And he said to the little girl, it was at his apartment, he told her, I think you and I are the only ones real here. And I need you to tell me if they're real, so I won't kill them.
[01:09:50.000 --> 01:10:05.000]  And he's mentioning, you know, he's referring to the other people in the apartment or the other adults. And she didn't say a word. And next thing everybody knows, he hops up, goes to the kitchen and pulls a knife from the butcher block.
[01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  No one saw him pull the knife. They all heard the butcher block sound. And then he appeared in the kitchen doorway with a knife.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  And so the police get called. And then, of course, 10 or 12 officers surround the apartment, you know, 10 minutes later with all their non-lethal quote, non-lethal stuff.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  And they end up coaxing him out of the apartment. They took statements from the people there. They said over and over that they weren't going to arrest him.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:52.000]  But, of course, they did. And he's charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon now. Now, that was October 12th. He's been sitting in the Wilco Flama for a month.
[01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  And I feel so sorry for this kid. He's not a violent person. Pulling a knife was not him.
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:03.000]  Well, has he been charged? Is there, because anyone looked at his court file?
[01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  Okay, yes. The history on that. He, okay, he has a pre-indictment, pre-indictment docket call Wednesday morning, this Wednesday morning.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  He had one on the 27th. But there has not been one legal maneuver done in this yet, except for a reset on the 27th.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  Well, what I'm asking is, has anybody looked at his file to see if a complaint has actually been filed against him yet?
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:37.000]  How, not to my knowledge.
[01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  Okay, somebody needs to first things first. Whenever anything like this happens, the first thing that people need to do is to go down to the court and get a copy of everything that's actually in the file.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:57.000]  I'm sorry. Okay, I can answer that then. There is a probable cause after David that I picked up.
[01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:09.000]  And it names a, quote, victim, okay? But I had already interviewed this, quote, victim. I've interviewed everyone that was there with the exception of the first four.
[01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  Okay, so everybody that was there at the time that he pulled this knife out, I have interviewed them. Not one of them want to press any charges.
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:37.000]  And then what needs to happen is whoever the victim is that is named in that probable cause after David, the alleged victim needs to submit and file an affidavit saying that they have, that person has no intention of pressing any charges and that they are not going to testify
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  that it is their sincere intent that the defendants be released from these charges, that the charges be dropped against this defendant. Because without a, without a competent fact witness, the state has no case.
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  And I've seen this before. This happens all the time. They pressure someone into taking a deal even when they're completely innocent. I mean, it sounds like in this case, there actually could be legitimate reason for charges to be pressed against this person.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  But the problem is without a competent fact witness. See, the police can't testify to this because they can't be the competent fact witnesses because they didn't witness anything.
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  They have to have a competent fact witness to either get on the stand or file an affidavit or both. And what happens is that they'll assign somebody defense, a court appointed defense attorney, or they'll get a court or they'll get their own attorney and they'll just get pressured into a plea deal
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:59.000]  with basically bogus pressuring, basically just bogus statements like, well, if you fight this, you're going to lose. And this is very, very common. The prosecutors just think that their job is to just get as many convictions as possible when that's actually not his job.
[01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:14.000]  His job is to make sure that justice is served. However, they just want to get as many notches on their belt as possible. So basically what will stop this, I've seen it, it's happened. I've seen it happen in two cases with people that I have helped.
[01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  You get the alleged victim to file an affidavit with the court saying that, and I can even send you a copy, a draft copy of the affidavit if you send me an email. And they have to get it notarized and say that they have no intention of testifying or pressing charges.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:42.000]  And that is their sincere wish that the defendant, that the charges be dropped against the defendant. And once that is filed, then the state has no recourse. They have to drop the case because they know that they have no evidence on this person.
[01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:49.000]  Okay, question. Who signed the probable cause affidavit as the affian?
[01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  One of the APD officers.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:58.000]  And who are they alleging they gathered the information to assert those facts from?
[01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:11.000]  They are the only witnesses that they try to make direct quotes from in here. And there's problems with that. They misrepresented what he said according to him.
[01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  Exactly, which means they falsified the information in the probable cause affidavit. That is something else that the individual needs to put in their affidavit regarding dropping the charges.
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:35.000]  They need to state flat out the APD officers completely misstated what was told to them for the express purpose of falsely obtaining a warrant of arrest.
[01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  Okay. Thank you.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  Yeah, write that down what Aegis said.
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  Okay.
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:53.000]  And then send me an email and I will send you, you know, basically a draft of, I'm going to take out the names of the people involved in the cases I was helping, but I'll just put in, you know, blanks.
[01:15:53.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  And then you just have that person fill it out and include the language that Randy just said. I mean, that Eddie just said in it.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  Okay, now could I ask just a couple other quick questions here?
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:24.000]  Okay. He had a public defender and he notified the public defender that he wanted a different attorney. Okay. And the different attorney I, my daughter went and contracted with the attorney and I don't think it was supposed to work that way, but that's what happened.
[01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  And then the private attorney has gotten critically ill and is really unfit to see this through. She, in fact, in three weeks, she's not been able to file a motion for solicitation, so she's not even on the court record.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  Okay. All right. Hold on. We'll go over that briefly when we get back and then we need to move on because we've got a lot of other college on the board.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:57.000]  But basically, I think that once you get these affidavits filed, you also need to get an emotion to dismiss and we'll talk about that on the other side. We'll be right back. This is a rule of law.
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[01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:33.000]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rue de Paul Radio. I am Eddie Craig with Denver Stephen and Randy Kelton. This is a must-do-night traffic show.
[01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:37.000]  We're going to finish up with Pam, and then we're going to get to our other callers.
[01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  All right, Pam, let's get your other questions out of the way. We got minimum time here.
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  All right, my last question would be, can I, myself, go file these out? If I get him to write and sign the affidavit, notarize it, I can take that to the district clerk's office myself?
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  Yes.
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.000]  Interest?
[01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  Yes.
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  Okay, excellent. That's it. Okay, Deborah, I'm going to...
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  However, you do have one other problem. If they actually have assigned counsel, they may refuse to let you file it unless it's submitted by said counsel.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  No, wait a minute. I thought that anybody can file an affidavit in anybody's case. You don't need the permission of the counsel.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  A witness can, someone that's going against it, but if the affidavit is being filed on behalf of the defendant, it has to go through their counsel.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  That's true, but the affidavits, by these alleged victims, they can file the affidavits all they want without going through the counsel.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  Yes, they can.
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  Okay.
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  But yes, the defendant cannot file an affidavit without going through counsel. Okay, Pam?
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  Just make sure that you also serve a copy of this filing with the prosecuting attorney.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  Serve it to the counsel, too. Serve it to the defense counsel and the prosecuting attorney, okay?
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  Okay. And I can file without the presence of the witness there. Okay.
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Yes.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:03.000]  Yes.
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  Thank you so much.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  Okay. All right. And also, best case scenario is to get a motion to dismiss filed based on these affidavits, but his attorney will have to do that.
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:31.000]  So you may want to serve the defense attorney with copies of these affidavits, which you need to do anyway, and with a letter saying, please file a motion to dismiss based on these affidavits stating that there is no competent fact witness in the case.
[01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  Okay.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  Okay. And you can go back and listen to this archive, too. I'm going to try to get caught up on the archives tonight, if I can.
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  Okay.
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:41.000]  All right, Pam?
[01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  So much. Okay.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  All right.
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  Okay. All right. Bye-bye.
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:48.000]  Okay. We're going now to Barrett in Idaho.
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  Barrett, what is your question for us tonight?
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  Yes, I have two short questions.
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  I'm revoked in another state for driving. And now that I'm in another state, if I were to get pulled over, say, you know, I always drive with insurance. I always drive with uninsured motorists and, you know, if I wreck somebody else's car, my insurance pay for and uninsured motors.
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:29.000]  So if I had that, and because I am revoked, obviously, I'm only going to have an ID. And so if they pulled me over, I mean, is there a way I can travel again?
[01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  Because they told me the soonest chance I'd have to get in my license back would be 2021. So, you know, no camping, no going to the grocery store.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  You got a bus that everywhere. And it's just, you know, it's like, it's like almost like no life, you know, without having and I can't work at a motorcycle shop anymore, because you have to be able to road test.
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:59.000]  And I make it mainly a mechanic, an auto truck motorcycle.
[01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  So what was it that caused you to lose the license?
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  And part of the other part of my question is the the officer.
[01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you ask another part of your question, please answer mine.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  Why did you lose your license?
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  Well, allegedly driving under the influence.
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  Were you convicted of allegedly driving under the influence?
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  Yeah, I took it to trial.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  Then it's not alleged anymore. It's a done deal.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  Okay.
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  But the reason why I didn't take the breathalyzer is because they wouldn't let me call an attorney see what I would get if I refused.
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.000]  And I started asking the officers, they kept saying I can't give you legal advice.
[01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  I said, well, I need to make a phone call.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  And I didn't say specifically to an attorney.
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:24:01.000]  And, but, you know, I mean, obviously, I mean, I was going to call an attorney to find out, okay, if I refused, what? And if I, because in Oregon, if you refuse, it's three years suspension.
[01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  Okay. Listen, listen carefully.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000]  You're convicted of all three of them.
[01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  Listen carefully, everybody, including you, Barrett.
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  You don't refuse.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  You simply say this.
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  I will be more than happy to comply and cooperate in the presence of legal counsel.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  From that point on, there is nothing they can do.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:33.000]  They cannot punish you for invoking your right to legal counsel.
[01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:40.000]  They cannot punish you for invoking your fifth amendment protections.
[01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  Got it?
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:51.000]  Instead of the appellate court, he wrote me back and he said, well, the judge pleased the officer that I didn't specifically ask for an attorney.
[01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:55.000]  And honestly, I can't really remember if I did specifically say it or not.
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  But I right after there kept telling me, we can't answer your questions, do legal questions, no legal advice.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000]  Well, I need to use a phone.
[01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  Or, you know, and then they said, no, after a breath of life dress as well.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  If you're not going to let me use a phone, I'm not taking it.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:14.000]  And I knew I was close. I was probably an 07, maybe an 08, maybe an 08.1 or something.
[01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.000]  I don't know. It was low.
[01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  They said in their transcript, they said my driving was fine.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  There was no traffic.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.000]  I was at Foley's Island.
[01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:30.000]  If you're driving, if you're driving was fine, what was their articulatable probable cause to pull you over?
[01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  Well, first of all, we were stopped at a...
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.000]  Let's not answer my question.
[01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:42.000]  What did they say gave them the reason to pull you over?
[01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:46.000]  I pulled out because when they got behind us, we were already stopped.
[01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.000]  We used the bathroom. We were back in my truck.
[01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  And this cop car comes up behind us and then shines a really super bright light, that pointer light.
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:02.000]  And in there, I thought, you know, they don't have their emergencies on.
[01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.000]  So I just pulled out of there.
[01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.000]  I was answering my question.
[01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  What did they tell you was their articulatable probable cause to stop you to begin with?
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:18.000]  I didn't signal when I left the parking lot.
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  You didn't signal when you left the parking lot?
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.000]  Yeah, and there was no traffic anywhere.
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  I mean, it was just completely empty.
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:31.000]  But that's the reason they initially pulled me over.
[01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.000]  They said it was suspicious because there was nothing there.
[01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  But there was a big, huge, public, one of those portal restrooms, a big one.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.000]  And he said in his report there was nothing there.
[01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:48.000]  And they didn't let me make that phone call.
[01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Bear. Hold on, hold on.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:53.000]  Wait a minute. Listen, we are very limited on time here.
[01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:59.000]  You need to just let us ask you questions and then answer them without adding a bunch of other information in.
[01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  Or else we're going to be here all night long and we won't be able to get to any of the other callers.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:04.000]  Okay, Roger.
[01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  Okay, now they told you, the officer told you that the reason he pulled you over is for failing to signal when you were coming out of this parking lot, correct?
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:16.000]  Yes.
[01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:28.000]  Okay, and then also somewhere along the line or on the ticket, or did he tell you in person that another reason he pulled you over is because it was suspicious.
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:35.000]  You were acting suspicious because you were somewhere pulled over where there was no building structures or something?
[01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  Exactly, exactly.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  Okay, did he say that to you in person or did he write that on a citation or a complaint?
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:48.000]  He said that in court and he didn't say it to me during the...
[01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  Okay, okay, all right.
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  Okay, so he said that in court.
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.000]  Okay, all right, Eddie.
[01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.000]  Where was the video from the police cruiser?
[01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000]  Eddie, what, what?
[01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:03.000]  Where was the video from the police cruiser?
[01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  The video?
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:11.000]  Yeah, you know what they collect with the cameras that are on the dashboard to all these cars?
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  Oh, and also during the trial, they said that there was nothing wrong with my driving.
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  Barrett, Barrett, Barrett, come back to the conversation.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.000]  Answer my question.
[01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  Did anybody subpoena the video from the patrol car?
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  We tried to, but there was no video camera in the patrol car and my attorney asked why is that and the officers, I don't know.
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:43.000]  They're phasing them out because really they're setting a lot of people free with cameras.
[01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  So it's kind of like they shot themselves in the foot when I put in those cameras in.
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  Okay.
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  So what evidence was produced at trial?
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:03.000]  Well, they weren't supposed to say that I refused because I wasn't allowed a phone call, but they used it anyway.
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  They used that evidence anyway.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  They used testimony that said you refused.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  Yeah.
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:15.000]  They have to prove that in court before they suspend your license for most three years, Barrett.
[01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  Prosecutor, go ahead.
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:22.000]  Okay, they have to prove that in court before they can make the three-year suspension stick.
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.000]  Okay.
[01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:30.000]  But it turns out, you know, if I would have talked to his attorney, he would have told me he had enough to lose and you'd better take that test.
[01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  All right.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:35.000]  I'm going to shorten this call a little bit because we're not getting as far as we need to and we're about to go to break.
[01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.000]  So before we do, listen carefully, everybody.
[01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  Rule four, five, and six.
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  Shut up.
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.000]  Keep shutting up and shut up some more.
[01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.000]  Stop talking to the cops.
[01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  Ask for a lawyer.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  Barrett, I'm going to wrap you up on the other side.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  I'm going to give you two minutes.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000]  Think hard about what you need to say.
[01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio. We'll be right back.
[01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.000]  Top 10 reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing.
[01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:04.000]  Reason number 10.
[01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.000]  What is on the surveillance tapes?
[01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.000]  There were many video surveillance cameras that recorded the morning of the bombing.
[01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:13.000]  Yet, the few of these that have been released do not show what transpired with the rider truck at the Murrow Building.
[01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:18.000]  Most recently, the government has claimed that all of the cameras that were in different buildings and maintained by different businesses
[01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:21.000]  were all having their tapes changed at the exact same time.
[01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:22.000]  9.02 a.m.
[01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:25.000]  This is insulting to the memory of those who perished in the bombing.
[01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:26.000]  What is being hidden from us?
[01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.000]  For more information, please go to okcbombingtruth.com.
[01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.000]  Spread them, football fans.
[01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.000]  The NFL wants you frisked from head to toe every time you go to a game.
[01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:45.000]  Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back to tell you how entering a football stadium may soon feel more like entering a prison.
[01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:55.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:57.000]  So protect your rights.
[01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.000]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:21.000]  Pro football is a high-contact sport, but this year fans attending games will get a lot more contact than they bargained for
[01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:26.000]  thanks to a new NFL policy that recommends full-body pat-downs as people enter stadiums.
[01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:32.000]  Sadly, at least two teams, the Indiana Colts and the Buffalo Bills, are already frisking fans from the ankles up.
[01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:33.000]  Why?
[01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:40.000]  The league says it's for your own safety, even if you have to put up with longer lines and get pawed by brawny strangers.
[01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.000]  To me, this is big brother in action.
[01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:47.000]  In another example of how our right to privacy, not to mention our private parts, are getting me unhandled.
[01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:51.000]  Let's call a foul on the NFL for unnecessary interference.
[01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:56.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:59.000]  Yeah, who you want to chip?
[01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.000]  Will you take me for free, Tony?
[01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.000]  Who you want to chip?
[01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:03.000]  Me, not free, Tony.
[01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:04.000]  You can't chip me.
[01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:05.000]  I'm sick.
[01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:07.000]  Don't let them chip you in the morning.
[01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.000]  Chip you in the evening.
[01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.000]  Put that chip in your body.
[01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.000]  And anyway, you'll go computer reading.
[01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.000]  You can't hide me if I'm nobody.
[01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:16.000]  What me say?
[01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:17.000]  Chip chip in to your mom.
[01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:18.000]  Chip in to your daddy.
[01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:19.000]  Chip in to your grandpa.
[01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:20.000]  And the granny.
[01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:21.000]  Chip in to me.
[01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:26.000]  Chip in to your baby.
[01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.000]  Chip in to your family.
[01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:32.000]  All right, folks, we are back at the rule of law radio.
[01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:36.000]  We have about a half an hour left in the show.
[01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:37.000]  I am on with Barrett.
[01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:40.000]  Barrett, I'm going to bring you back on for two minutes.
[01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.000]  I need clear and coherent answers here.
[01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:48.000]  And I need you to tell me what it is you're expecting me to help you do at this point.
[01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:49.000]  So let's go.
[01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:50.000]  What you got?
[01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:51.000]  Yes.
[01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:56.000]  Do I have grounds on suing on a civil level this officer Phillips?
[01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.000]  He was in a sheriff's car.
[01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:02.000]  So I'm assuming he's a sheriff's deputy of Montloma County.
[01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:04.000]  Suing him on what grounds?
[01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:08.000]  That he didn't allow me to make a phone call before taking a breath of water.
[01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.000]  Violation of Fifth Amendment.
[01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:14.000]  He's not the one that has to do anything in that regard unless you can specifically
[01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:18.000]  show that you requested assistance of counsel.
[01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.000]  Do you have a witness?
[01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.000]  He said in front of the jury.
[01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:25.000]  No, I don't know if I do or not.
[01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.000]  The jury could be the witness.
[01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:30.000]  Was there anyone with you in the car, Barrett?
[01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000]  Yeah, I had a friend in the car, yes.
[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  Okay, was he conscious and sober?
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  No, he wasn't doing very good.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  So he can't attest to what was said one way or the other?
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:47.000]  No, probably not.
[01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:51.000]  Anyone else on scene besides the three of you?
[01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.000]  No.
[01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  And there was no recording made of the conversation between the officer and you that you're aware of?
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.000]  No.
[01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  Then it is your word against the officers?
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  But he did say in trial that Mr. North Cross did ask to make a phone call before the pleasure
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.000]  and we told him no.
[01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:16.000]  That is not equate to ask for assistance of counsel, does it, Barrett?
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  But I don't know.
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  Y'all believe the way you're going to get where you want to go is if Idaho or wherever it was you were,
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:33.000]  case law says that the presumption of assistance of counsel shall be met if there's uncertainty as to whether or not it was requested.
[01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:37.000]  That's the only way you're getting beyond that.
[01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:45.000]  If you can show that he took the stuff after you asked the lawyer up, that's an illegal search and seizure.
[01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  It's only going to apply if you ask for it to be done with assistance of counsel and you were denied.
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  Are we clear on that?
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  Yes.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  Then you need to figure out the facts that will prove that.
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:03.000]  Till then, you're on your own because nobody can help you till that happens.
[01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  Okay, Barrett, listen, we really need to move on because we've got three other callers, okay?
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  Thank you.
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:11.000]  Okay, all right, thank you.
[01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  All right, we're going now to John in Arizona.
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.000]  John, thank you for calling in.
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.000]  Thank you so patiently holding.
[01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.000]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  It's pretty complicated.
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  Basically, about a year and a half ago, I started attending some meetings of a group in Arizona and they believe along the lines of sovereignty.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:48.000]  Basically, after the U.S. government found out I've been attending some meetings, so about, I'd say, three months or so after attending these meetings.
[01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  I was in a library just working on a computer minding my own business when the local police came into the library and started yelling at me and stuff like that.
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:03.000]  And I just turned around and asked, like, am I under arrest?
[01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  And they said no.
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  And I go, okay, well, I'm going to go continue working on my computer.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:11.000]  So they just started yelling and stuff and doing this countdown.
[01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  And I just turned to a woman to the right of me and she identified herself as an attorney.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  So I go, okay, great, this is, we can talk.
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  In the middle of that conversation, they just picked me up and arrested me and they arrested me for stalking this female.
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:42.000]  And when we did a background after the fact, we found out that this woman is the daughter of a U.S. diplomat with a background in the National War College and all this type of stuff.
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:50.000]  So basically, I've never, they tried to take me to trial in Maricopa County Superior Court.
[01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:51.000]  I never signed any documents.
[01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:53.000]  What did they charge you with?
[01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  They charge me with stalking.
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  And actually, let me back up because they did this all unlawfully.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  They first tried...
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:03.000]  No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  I'm not in here for legal opinion as to whether or not it was lawful.
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.000]  Right now, I need facts.
[01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:09.000]  Right.
[01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  Okay.
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:19.000]  Now, the facts are, so far, they came in, they arrested you after harassing you for several minutes and allegedly charged you with stalking.
[01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  Were the officers in possession of a warrant for your arrest at this time?
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  No.
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:25.000]  Okay.
[01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:29.000]  Was a warrant for your arrest ever procured?
[01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  No, it wasn't.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:36.000]  Then at this point, yeah, the arrest would appear to be illegal.
[01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  Now, what is the disposition?
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  Well, you mean where is this case right now?
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  Yes.
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:45.000]  Well, they tried to prosecute.
[01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  We found that they couldn't do anything with the arrest, so what they did is they went to the grand jury and had the grand jury produce the charges.
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  And then...
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:03.000]  They had the grand jury indict on what evidence?
[01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:04.000]  Right.
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  There was no evidence, there was just hearsay statements.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:16.000]  In fact, the girl didn't appear in the grand jury and neither did the mom.
[01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.000]  They just had the officer make statements on their behalf.
[01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.000]  So we got the grand jury transcripts.
[01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  We said there was a defect.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:24.000]  We held a hearing.
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  We told the judge there was a defect in the grand jury transcripts.
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:29.000]  The judge denied it.
[01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  So then we went to the Arizona Peels Court who ruled in our favor.
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:41.000]  And then what I did is I got rid of all my attorneys and I'm just doing this all by myself.
[01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.000]  So basically, they tried to...
[01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  They went back to the grand jury and I put in writing that since my arrest was unlawful,
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  my identification of myself and you're attaining my name to use in the second grand jury session
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  was unlawful under a lawyer versus Florida in 1983, the fruit of the poisonous chew doctrine
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  and the exclusionary rule, which all state that if an arrest or if an action is unlawful,
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  then all subsequent actions are unlawful.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  I put that into writing.
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  I've put it in court.
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  Okay.
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  Problem.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  Okay.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:29.000]  That would mean that the initial prosecution is null and void.
[01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.000]  Yes.
[01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:36.000]  That does not bar them from dropping it and instituting a new one and doing it correctly
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:41.000]  as long as they are within the statute of limitations for the offense.
[01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  The only way that they would be permanently barred is if they had already filed a complaint
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  or indictment and those had been dismissed because you proved they were false.
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  Okay.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:40:01.000]  But can I say that since this arrest was unlawful and I never consented to identify myself,
[01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  they reached in my...
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:06.000]  Whether you consented to identify yourself or not is irrelevant.
[01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.000]  Okay.
[01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  Well, the second part of this is real quick.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  I'm out of jail, but can I do a writ of habeas corpus to end this case?
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  No.
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.000]  Why is that?
[01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  Because habeas corpus only applies to someone being held illegally by some other party.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.000]  Yeah, and that's what I thought.
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  Are you out on bond?
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  Right now?
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:34.000]  Yes.
[01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  No, I'm not.
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  Then you are not being held.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  But my property is being held, which is my name.
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  You can't hate...
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:47.000]  No, it's not.
[01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.000]  It's well...
[01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  Okay, I don't know where you're getting your legal education from,
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  but whatever material you bought and paid for, go burn it.
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:58.000]  Okay?
[01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:02.000]  That has nothing to do with nothing.
[01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:09.000]  The fact here is that if you commit a crime, the person the crime is committed against has recourse.
[01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  The entire purpose for the existence of the state and the government of the state is to protect the rights and property of the people.
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  So if someone accused you of committing a crime and they can identify you,
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  it is not your name they're going to be holding in jail.
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.000]  It's going to be the body.
[01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:33.000]  And that's what a habeas applies to.
[01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:39.000]  Okay, so another quick question I have is...
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  Let me see.
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:47.000]  Earlier, when you guys were talking about the traffic case, you mentioned talking to the clerk,
[01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.000]  and you had the clerk quash the arrest warrant.
[01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:52.000]  Is that possible?
[01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  Well, she offered to look into the situation.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  We fully expected that nothing was going to get resolved over the phone like that.
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  I just explained to her that somebody was about to get sued because Jerry had made an appearance,
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:16.000]  and we get a notice in the mail that says there's a warrant for failure to appear,
[01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.000]  and then you look at the warrant, and the warrant is not for failure to appear.
[01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:26.000]  It's for the alleged traffic infringement itself.
[01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:28.000]  And I said, what's going on here?
[01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:31.000]  I'd appreciate if you look into this.
[01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:37.000]  And she did, and she resolved it, but I would not expect that that would happen in every case,
[01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:39.000]  but we're pretty aggressive about it.
[01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:44.000]  But one thing is I thought only a judge could quash the warrant.
[01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:46.000]  It wasn't a quashing of the warrant.
[01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  It was a clerical error, she told me.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:55.000]  It was some kind of a computer system glitch.
[01:42:55.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  So it wasn't like something that happened as a court document.
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  It wasn't a quashing of the warrant because if she had not been able to get this quote-unquote
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:12.000]  clerical or technical glitch straightened out, then yes,
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  we were going to file a motion to quash the warrant, and only a judge could rule on that.
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  That is correct, but that's not what happened here.
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:25.000]  And then you guys are mentioning your e-mail. Is it possible I could get that?
[01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:27.000]  Get what?
[01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  I think you guys were saying you have e-mail or...
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  Yeah, go to the website, ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:37.000]  There's a contact button. You can get our e-mails there, okay?
[01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  Okay, thanks.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:40.000]  All right, great. Fantastic.
[01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  Okay, we will be right back.
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  We've got two more callers, Larry in Texas, Keith in Alabama.
[01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:50.000]  We'll be taking your calls on the other side. This is the Rule of Law.
[01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:52.000]  I'm Deborah Stevens here with Eddie Craig.
[01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:56.000]  The three of us with Randy Kelton will be back on Thursday,
[01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.000]  but we've got one more segment tonight. We'll be right back.
[01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:03.000]  Hey, did you hear? Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012.
[01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.000]  Who's Ron Paul?
[01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:07.000]  Really? Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute.
[01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:10.000]  Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:13.000]  Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:14.000]  Of course you do.
[01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:17.000]  Now, listen closely. You need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can
[01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.000]  about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
[01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:22.000]  They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about.
[01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:25.000]  They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers, and yard signs
[01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:27.000]  so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:30.000]  Brave New Books? Did they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:34.000]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books
[01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.000]  to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:39.000]  Uh, that sounds like that show on the Discovery Channel.
[01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:43.000]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earth Skills School
[01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:46.000]  that you can sign up for on the website bravenewbookstore.com.
[01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:47.000]  What are you doing?
[01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:50.000]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to bravenewbookstore.com
[01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:53.000]  or down to the bookstore in person. Where's it located?
[01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.000]  1904 Guadalupe Street.
[01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.000]  There, it's sent. I even made a smiley face.
[01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:59.000]  Great.
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[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.000]  We've got Larry from Texas.
[01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  Larry, what is your question for us tonight?
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:54.000]  Are you there?
[01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  Yes. What is your question for us tonight, Larry?
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  I got a speeding ticket.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  First of this year, 68 and a 55, and I asked for a jury trial.
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  I just now heard about you guys a couple of days ago on Alex's show.
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:15.000]  I heard Eddie on Alex's show.
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  I love all of the information I've read so far.
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:23.000]  I listened to one of your shows from last week in your archives,
[01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:31.000]  and I heard Eddie say that once the state finished presenting their case,
[01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  that you moved, I wrote down when he said,
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  I moved the court for a directed verdict in favor of the defense.
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:44.000]  The state has failed to prove its case as required,
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:50.000]  and I read the transportation code about 545.351.
[01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  What I wanted to ask is once they make that,
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  once I say that to the judge, do I need to quote this transportation code,
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:02.000]  or are they going to know what that is?
[01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.000]  Not unless the judge asks.
[01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  If the judge says on what basis and what element are you stating the case was not proven,
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  or the state failed to prove its case,
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:17.000]  then you can cite 545.351 Texas Transportation Code.
[01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:21.000]  The complaint alleges my speed was neither reasonable nor prudent.
[01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  That statute specifically requires that to prove that element,
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:28.000]  the state must prove injury to persons or property.
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  The state introduced no such evidence.
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.000]  Okay.
[01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:36.000]  Now, let me ask you one more question on this.
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.000]  Say they shoot that now.
[01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:43.000]  That's fully what we expect them to do at trial.
[01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  That's exactly why if we're in a court of record,
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:50.000]  we've already requested that everything be on the record,
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:53.000]  then it will be in the transcript for the appeals court.
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  But whether or not you are in a court of record,
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  my recommendation is always, always augment the record in writing.
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:05.000]  Immediately after trial, I would have sat down,
[01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:11.000]  written an affidavit as to exactly what transpired when I requested the directed verdict,
[01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.000]  that that verdict or request was denied by the court.
[01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  The court refused to acknowledge the elements required under law,
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:20.000]  and so on and so forth,
[01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:23.000]  and then make that a part of the written record that we can refile on appeal.
[01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  Okay.
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:27.000]  So I don't go in, like you said,
[01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.000]  I heard you say this the other day on Alex's show.
[01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:33.000]  Don't go after any of the merits of the case
[01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:38.000]  with the officers charging me with his mistakes or anything.
[01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  That's correct.
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  Don't go, just go off the fact that they did not prove their case.
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:45.000]  Exactly.
[01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.000]  There are actually several things the officer will do wrong.
[01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  As I said on Alex, there are a minimum of five due process violations
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  that a police officer commits in a traffic stop.
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.000]  A minimum of five.
[01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:01.000]  Okay.
[01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  There will be many, many more than that committed by the magistrate
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  and judge through the entire process leading up to trial.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:14.000]  I can give you dozens of them out of the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  They'll perpetrate right off the bat.
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  Now, Eddie, let me ask you something.
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.000]  Since this is a speeding case,
[01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:25.000]  should he address the issues concerning the fact that speeding,
[01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  the charge of speeding doesn't mean that you are going X amount of miles per hour
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.000]  over the posted speed limit sign,
[01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  but that it has to do with, you know, if you were basically driving in a reckless manner?
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:47.000]  Well, that comes to the 545.351 requirement to prove harms to person or property.
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  Okay.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  That's exactly what that addresses and that's exactly why the complaint must state
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  that the speed was neither reasonable nor prudent.
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:59.000]  That is the element they never, ever proved.
[01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  So, the fact that I have a commercial driver's license, none of that's going to matter
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:11.000]  because I wasn't driving, I was in my own personal vehicle.
[01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  So, it's...
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  No, it does not matter.
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:18.000]  Even if you had been in a commercial vehicle, it does not matter.
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  The speeding requisite remains the same.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:25.000]  That statement must be in the complaint.
[01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  Therefore, it must be proven at trial.
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:33.000]  It never is unless there actually is an accident.
[01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:34.000]  Now, you...
[01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  I also wrote down what you said.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:42.000]  The fence has a written motion in order for the court to sign granting the motion for direct...
[01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  directed by...
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  I need to have that that day, right?
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  Yes.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  You take that to court with you on a speeding case.
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:51.000]  If there was no accident, they cannot prove that element.
[01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.000]  You know that in advance.
[01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:54.000]  Correct.
[01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:55.000]  Okay.
[01:51:55.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  I'm going to this jury trial Friday at 10 o'clock in the morning, okay?
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  So, the jury is going to be there and I'm going to say this and I just wanted to make
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  sure I heard you right.
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  Do not address any of the merits of the case.
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  Just start this and then if the judge rolls against me, make a written affidavit and then...
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  Right.
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:20.000]  Now, I can help you with that.
[01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  I can already have the affidavit.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:24.000]  I've already written the affidavit for the speeding charge.
[01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  All you need to do is file that.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  You file that in conjunction with the order that you want signed.
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.000]  You don't even...
[01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:39.000]  It's a very short one-page motion on the motion to give me the directed verdict for the defense.
[01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  And then all you need is an order granting that attached to it.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:49.000]  Now, that in the class that you sell?
[01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  Yes.
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:53.000]  If you get it directly from me at the moment, yes.
[01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  This is a new affidavit.
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  It's not in there or actually, yes, it may be.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  I wrote this affidavit four or five months ago, so it may be in the current version of
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  the material that you have if you get it right now.
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:10.000]  Well, I'm going to actually purchase that either tomorrow or Wednesday.
[01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  Okay.
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  I'm waiting on some money, but I am going to get that out.
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  I want to tell you, I'm also going to be here every Monday listening to you.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:18.000]  I love this show.
[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  Well, we are also...
[01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:21.000]  Yes, thank you.
[01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  We're also on Thursdays and Friday nights too.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:27.000]  Well, then I'll be there listening too because I love this show.
[01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:34.000]  Well, as soon as you order the seminar material and you get your confirmation email from Deborah,
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  send that to me and I will email you the latest updates to the document so you will have those.
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  Okay.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  Now, I emailed you yesterday and so it's probably just rehashing what I talked about here.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:48.000]  Okay.
[01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  I know you guys probably get a thousand emails, so I wanted to...
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:57.000]  Yeah, my email box went nuclear the day I got off of Alex's show.
[01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  That's how I found out about you and I love your information and I love this show and I love your website.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:05.000]  Well, thank you.
[01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:11.000]  I really like it and I appreciate the information and I'll be here and I'll try to call you next
[01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  Monday and let you know what happened on this case.
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  Appreciate it.
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  We'd gladly hear from you on that.
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  Anytime we get a win or a loss, we want to know so we can figure out where we won or where we lost.
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:23.000]  Okay.
[01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  Well, I'll definitely either tomorrow or Wednesday.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:29.000]  Whenever I get the money, I'll definitely purchase that course.
[01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  All right, Larry.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  Thanks very much.
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:32.000]  Okay, great.
[01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:33.000]  Thank you, Larry.
[01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:34.000]  Hey, guys.
[01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  Thank you.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:36.000]  Okay.
[01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  All right.
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:38.000]  We're going now to Keith in Alabama.
[01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  Keith, thank you for calling in.
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:40.000]  What is your question tonight?
[01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:46.000]  All right, my question involves, I had called in and mentioned this before, I think it was on a Friday,
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  but back in January, I got a ticket.
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  Stopped, had no tag on the car, but didn't get a ticket for that, got a ticket for no insurance.
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  And I went to court on the day in time, specified on the ticket, and there was no court that day.
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  So I pretty much had an officer in the court there or in the lobby there write something on a piece of paper
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  that saying I was there on that day in time for his name badge number.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:28.000]  And he suggested I call the court back Monday to, you know, see what was going on and see if they wanted to reschedule.
[01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:33.000]  So I did, but phone's busy or no answer.
[01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.000]  But my phone number was on the ticket.
[01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:42.000]  So I said, well, if they want to change this or have me come in, they can call me.
[01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:50.000]  A couple months go by and I had a friend call down there and he said that they had issued two warrants.
[01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:54.000]  A warrant on the ticket and a warrant for failure to appear.
[01:55:54.000 --> 01:56:04.000]  So I got busy, wrote up notice and demand, two affidavits and use a third party certificate of service to mail everything in.
[01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  Call back down there a couple weeks later and the warrants were gone.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  So I, you know, I figured okay, the matter was resolved.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:20.000]  Last week I had an epiphany and decided to call the municipal court magistrate warrant officer.
[01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:29.000]  Then the clerk there said that they had just issued two warrants back in October the 15th for failure to appear and another one on the ticket.
[01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:37.000]  Well, I received no notice for court appearance, which he said there was a court on in September.
[01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.000]  I received no notice of a court appearance.
[01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  And now here we are, I got two warrants on me and I just sent in a second notice along with copies of the original documents I sent into.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:57.000]  So what is my remedy or what's my recourse?
[01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  What do the laws of Alabama say is required to provide proper notice to the individual?
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  How is service to be performed in accordance with law?
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  That I will have to get into research.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:14.000]  Yes, you will. That's my point.
[01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:18.000]  There are normally at least three ways it can be done.
[01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:24.000]  By hand in person, certified mail or regular mail.
[01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:27.000]  All depends upon what the requisites of the statute are.
[01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  The requirement by mail normally is last known good address.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:39.000]  If you had one on the ticket and you had recently moved to another, guess where they sent it?
[01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  Well, I told the officer when they wrote the address, they said it's this address current.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:48.000]  I said, no, that address is not current. I do no longer live there.
[01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  Welcome to the world of legal chicanery.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  Pardon me?
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  I said, welcome to the world of legal chicanery.
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  I guarantee you they sent it to the other address.
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:12.000]  But in my notice to the court, I sent it to the court administrator, the municipal court administrator.
[01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:18.000]  You need to send a letter to the court demanding they tell you what address they sent the notices to.
[01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:25.000]  Then you filed an affidavit stating that that was not the address given to the officer for proper service.
[01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:28.000]  Well, the officer never asked for a proper address.
[01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  I sent him my mail.
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  Okay, not relevant, Pete.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  Not relevant. Listen to what I'm telling you.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:38.000]  Look, look, look, we're about to disappear from here.
[01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.000]  I've got 20 seconds left.
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  So, all back in Thursday.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  I'll go over this in a little bit more detail.
[01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:46.000]  We're calling it at the beginning of the show.
[01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:51.000]  And we'll get you online and get this finished up, okay?
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