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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:05.000 --> 00:10.120]  Thousands of South African youth and workers calling for economic freedom marched in Johannesburg
[00:10.120 --> 00:15.400]  Thursday, demanding that government and business do more to create jobs, build houses for the
[00:15.400 --> 00:18.720]  poor and provide free schools for their children.
[00:18.720 --> 00:24.000]  They also called for minds to be nationalized and land to be taken from whites and given
[00:24.000 --> 00:27.400]  to poor blacks.
[00:27.400 --> 00:32.120]  The Associated Press reported this week Muslims who changed their names were flagged by the
[00:32.120 --> 00:35.200]  New York Police Department as potential terrorists.
[00:35.200 --> 00:41.520]  The NYPD runs comprehensive background checks that include travel records, criminal histories,
[00:41.520 --> 00:46.480]  business licenses and immigration documents on those whose names sound Arabic or might
[00:46.480 --> 00:47.960]  be from Muslim countries.
[00:47.960 --> 00:54.520]  The report is the latest in a series exposing NYPD racial and ethnic profiling of Muslims
[00:54.520 --> 00:57.880]  with CIA collaboration.
[00:57.880 --> 01:03.680]  Republican presidential contender Herman Cain's campaign manager Mark Block turns out to have
[01:03.680 --> 01:05.680]  a checkered past.
[01:05.680 --> 01:10.560]  He was accused of voter suppression and was banned from running Wisconsin political campaigns
[01:10.560 --> 01:12.040]  for three years.
[01:12.040 --> 01:17.760]  To settle accusations he coordinated a judges re-election campaign with a special interest
[01:17.760 --> 01:18.760]  group.
[01:18.760 --> 01:25.320]  Block has also faced a tax warrant by the IRS, a lawsuit for an unpaid bill and was twice
[01:25.320 --> 01:28.880]  arrested for drunk driving.
[01:28.880 --> 01:33.640]  The Washington Post reported Friday the U.S. Air Force has been secretly flying armed Reaper
[01:33.640 --> 01:39.680]  drones from a remote civilian airport in Ethiopia as part of a rapidly expanding U.S.-led proxy
[01:39.680 --> 01:43.720]  war against an al-Qaeda affiliate in East Africa.
[01:43.720 --> 01:49.080]  The Air Force spent millions of dollars to upgrade the airfield where it has built a small annex
[01:49.080 --> 01:53.960]  to house a fleet of drones that can be equipped with hellfire missiles and satellite-guided
[01:53.960 --> 01:54.960]  bombs.
[01:54.960 --> 01:59.840]  The Reefers began flying missions early this year over neighboring Somalia where the U.S.
[01:59.840 --> 02:02.480]  and its allies have been targeting al-Shabaab.
[02:02.480 --> 02:08.080]  The U.S. has relied on lethal drone attacks, a burgeoning CIA presence in Mogadishu and
[02:08.080 --> 02:11.400]  small-scale missions carried out by U.S. special forces.
[02:11.400 --> 02:16.080]  The Ethiopian airfield is one of many secret drone bases in the Arabian Peninsula and the
[02:16.080 --> 02:19.920]  Horn of Africa disclosed by the paper last month.
[02:19.920 --> 02:26.160]  U.S. Stover, Massey Energy's security chief, was convicted Wednesday on charges related
[02:26.160 --> 02:33.040]  to the 2010 explosion at the Upper Big Branch Mine in West Virginia that killed 29 coal miners.
[02:33.040 --> 02:38.440]  Stover was found guilty by a jury in U.S. District Court of obstructing a federal criminal
[02:38.440 --> 02:42.080]  investigation and lying to federal investigators.
[02:42.080 --> 02:48.640]  Stover faces a maximum penalty of 25 years but remains free until sentencing in February.
[02:48.640 --> 02:53.600]  No other mine personnel or Massey officials have been charged, but the criminal investigation
[02:53.600 --> 02:54.760]  is continuing.
[02:54.760 --> 02:59.480]  The obstruction charge was for ordering a security guard to dispose of thousands of
[02:59.480 --> 03:19.600]  security-related documents.
[03:29.480 --> 03:51.000]  I received my remedy today, came in the box just like they say, I accepted it for value
[03:51.000 --> 03:52.000]  right away.
[03:52.000 --> 04:19.320]  I was released on a $5,000 cash spot and for those who hadn't been through the whole
[04:19.320 --> 04:34.920]  show, the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure 17.02 says that bail bond is a written undertaking
[04:34.920 --> 04:48.040]  between the state and the accused, wherein the accused places his property up as security
[04:48.040 --> 04:50.280]  to ensure his appearance.
[04:50.280 --> 04:59.040]  It doesn't involve the transfer of any money, it's a promise, it's a written agreement.
[04:59.040 --> 05:09.840]  Well the judge assessed a $5,000 fee to get out of jail and the 17.02 goes on to say that
[05:09.840 --> 05:20.840]  the accused can post monies of the United States in lieu in the amount of the bond in
[05:20.840 --> 05:31.680]  lieu of having security sign the bail bond.
[05:31.680 --> 05:34.960]  That's an option I have, not the court.
[05:34.960 --> 05:44.600]  So the court assessed a cash bond, what I want to know is, how often does he do that?
[05:44.600 --> 05:53.600]  I suspect he reserves that for anybody who pleads not guilty and uses that to stick them
[05:53.600 --> 05:59.800]  in jail to believe them of all their cash so they can't afford a higher counsel and
[05:59.800 --> 06:05.800]  because they're able to post the bond, they deny them indigency status and leave them
[06:05.800 --> 06:08.600]  stuck without an attorney.
[06:08.600 --> 06:17.600]  That is exactly the harm the constitutional right to bail was implemented to prevent.
[06:17.600 --> 06:29.280]  So we send information requests to the jail and to the court, the court clerk, asking
[06:29.280 --> 06:35.760]  for all of the people, all of the instances where a cash bond has been set as opposed
[06:35.760 --> 06:39.280]  to a bail bond.
[06:39.280 --> 06:40.800]  That's one of the things we might assume.
[06:40.800 --> 06:45.080]  The situation is it's very, very rare.
[06:45.080 --> 06:50.000]  That's what I'm going to bet and it's going to only be those people who plead not guilty.
[06:50.000 --> 06:56.520]  Yeah, and I really want to run down who put you in isolation too because that's cruel
[06:56.520 --> 06:58.000]  and unusual punishment.
[06:58.000 --> 07:03.800]  Yeah, that is a good thing to go after them for because there have already been a number
[07:03.800 --> 07:07.280]  of questions over that.
[07:07.280 --> 07:13.040]  So the more potential difficulty we can give them, the less likely they are to stand on
[07:13.040 --> 07:16.840]  the side of this judge.
[07:16.840 --> 07:21.680]  They'll protect their own as long as protecting your own doesn't cost them the individual
[07:21.680 --> 07:23.680]  their career.
[07:23.680 --> 07:26.240]  Right, right.
[07:26.240 --> 07:28.760]  And in the end, it's going to have to be political.
[07:28.760 --> 07:34.520]  So we're going to have to send letters to the legislators because it seems like they
[07:34.520 --> 07:38.760]  do anything they want to do in Cherokee County.
[07:38.760 --> 07:44.040]  It's not just Cherokee County, there are a lot of counties out there like that.
[07:44.040 --> 07:49.600]  And we get this judge and this prosecutor put in prison where they belong.
[07:49.600 --> 07:52.960]  It'll serve as a serious warning to everybody else.
[07:52.960 --> 07:57.760]  I would have thought this guy in Winkler County would have served as a warning.
[07:57.760 --> 08:02.840]  But I think his conviction wasn't was too close.
[08:02.840 --> 08:04.440]  They didn't have time to find out about it.
[08:04.440 --> 08:06.280]  Besides, they've been doing this for two years.
[08:06.280 --> 08:10.640]  So they were already engaged in the process.
[08:10.640 --> 08:15.960]  But if we give them a judge put in jail, that'll get everybody's attention.
[08:15.960 --> 08:17.440]  Right, right.
[08:17.440 --> 08:25.680]  Hey, on my brother's case, two attorneys had to drive two hours to court, or actually
[08:25.680 --> 08:31.200]  two hours from Chicago and two hours back, they had to drive two hours into Rockford
[08:31.200 --> 08:33.720]  just to get off the case.
[08:33.720 --> 08:36.320]  They didn't want to deal with the fraud allegations.
[08:36.320 --> 08:42.880]  Okay, this is where you file the first suit.
[08:42.880 --> 08:46.560]  With the Fed going as I can see with the date.
[08:46.560 --> 08:47.560]  The standing.
[08:47.560 --> 08:48.560]  Right.
[08:48.560 --> 08:52.160]  He's doing court for the fifth.
[08:52.160 --> 08:55.560]  And I think he's just going to ask to amend his complaint because they're complaining
[08:55.560 --> 08:58.160]  about a couple of technical things.
[08:58.160 --> 08:59.800]  But I'll send that to you.
[08:59.800 --> 09:00.800]  Okay, good.
[09:00.800 --> 09:01.800]  Good.
[09:01.800 --> 09:02.800]  I'd like to look at it.
[09:02.800 --> 09:06.120]  Let's see what, I want to see what the technicalities are.
[09:06.120 --> 09:11.000]  And we, if they're valid, we'll make amendments to adjust for it.
[09:11.000 --> 09:13.880]  If they're not, we will go for sanctions.
[09:13.880 --> 09:20.880]  Well, I was thinking that we were going to amend anyway and add the attorneys to the fraud
[09:20.880 --> 09:24.880]  case too, and maybe even file in some criminal complaints too.
[09:24.880 --> 09:27.920]  Okay, wait a minute.
[09:27.920 --> 09:31.320]  Yours wasn't classic, as I would call it.
[09:31.320 --> 09:34.200]  Yours was a state case initially.
[09:34.200 --> 09:35.200]  Right.
[09:35.200 --> 09:41.440]  Because Illinois is a judicial state.
[09:41.440 --> 09:46.680]  So where are we now, are we strictly in the Fed now or are we still in the state?
[09:46.680 --> 09:47.680]  Strictly in the state.
[09:47.680 --> 09:50.680]  The Fed dropped us like a hot potato.
[09:50.680 --> 09:55.440]  Okay, that we can go back on.
[09:55.440 --> 10:00.000]  That's the one where they, did they drop before there was an answer?
[10:00.000 --> 10:01.000]  Yeah.
[10:01.000 --> 10:04.240]  We need to file criminal charges against the judge.
[10:04.240 --> 10:07.240]  The federal judge?
[10:07.240 --> 10:08.240]  Yes.
[10:08.240 --> 10:09.240]  All right.
[10:09.240 --> 10:16.560]  We'll talk about that tomorrow the next day or actually give me the weekend to get my
[10:16.560 --> 10:22.880]  legal research done, and then Monday I should be caught up and we'll talk about, we start
[10:22.880 --> 10:27.160]  filing complaints against these judges for denying you in your right to petition the
[10:27.160 --> 10:29.160]  court for redress grievance.
[10:29.160 --> 10:31.440]  All right.
[10:31.440 --> 10:42.440]  These guys want to be corrupt and we do what Julius was talking about, is stacked to complaint
[10:42.440 --> 10:43.440]  someone.
[10:43.440 --> 10:44.440]  Right.
[10:44.440 --> 10:45.440]  Right.
[10:45.440 --> 10:46.440]  Who is it?
[10:46.440 --> 10:51.400]  One of the callers talked about 5,000 complaints against the judge.
[10:51.400 --> 10:52.400]  That was incredible.
[10:52.400 --> 10:56.320]  That's what you should do Randy, you should put a form letter up on the site so everybody
[10:56.320 --> 11:01.800]  can just download it and maybe amend it a little bit and everybody can send it in.
[11:01.800 --> 11:04.640]  You could probably get a couple thousand.
[11:04.640 --> 11:11.120]  That would, that would end is, that would get, almost certainly get the judicial conduct
[11:11.120 --> 11:17.640]  commission off their duffs and the bar if we get them stacked all over this prosecutor
[11:17.640 --> 11:23.680]  that this is so outrageous that this may, that may be enough to end their careers.
[11:23.680 --> 11:24.680]  Yeah.
[11:24.680 --> 11:29.440]  I, I can't see this judge's, judge's career surviving this Randy, if, if it's as bad
[11:29.440 --> 11:34.440]  as you say it is and it appears to be that bad, I mean, it sounds like the Cherokee
[11:34.440 --> 11:35.920]  County Railroad.
[11:35.920 --> 11:41.840]  Oh, in the second floor of the courthouse, they have a big mural of a railroad going
[11:41.840 --> 11:43.840]  all around the walls.
[11:43.840 --> 11:45.840]  That is so appropriate.
[11:45.840 --> 11:47.840]  All aboard.
[11:47.840 --> 11:48.840]  Okay.
[11:48.840 --> 11:53.840]  Do you have anything else for us?
[11:53.840 --> 11:54.840]  Yeah.
[11:54.840 --> 11:59.840]  I discovered that you don't need a fishing license in Wisconsin.
[11:59.840 --> 12:05.080]  So I wrote up a declaration in lieu of a fishing license and I was going to send it to Eddie
[12:05.080 --> 12:07.120]  because I know how busy you are.
[12:07.120 --> 12:10.000]  And maybe he can tell me what I need to add or subtract from it.
[12:10.000 --> 12:13.560]  But the first time I went fishing with it, I caught an eight pound walleye.
[12:13.560 --> 12:17.480]  So something's going right here.
[12:17.480 --> 12:18.480]  What do you do?
[12:18.480 --> 12:22.800]  Wrap it around the hook, get on the hook and the fish comes up to read it and gets hung
[12:22.800 --> 12:23.800]  on the hook.
[12:23.800 --> 12:28.000]  I actually wear it around my neck like they do with real fishing licenses.
[12:28.000 --> 12:34.080]  Well, if you send it down on the hook like one of Randy's legal pleadings, the fish
[12:34.080 --> 12:40.800]  falls asleep and flows to the top, then you just pick him up.
[12:40.800 --> 12:46.880]  I'd have to correct all the spelling errors before I used it, though.
[12:46.880 --> 12:52.640]  Well, it's a good thing walleye don't travel to school, they don't read well.
[12:52.640 --> 13:02.640]  If God had meant for man to spell, he would not have created spell check.
[13:02.640 --> 13:07.200]  Okay, enough of that.
[13:07.200 --> 13:09.680]  We're going to go to grandpa Stan.
[13:09.680 --> 13:10.680]  Thank you, Mark.
[13:10.680 --> 13:12.040]  And I'll talk to you probably Monday.
[13:12.040 --> 13:13.760]  Could give me a call Monday.
[13:13.760 --> 13:14.760]  You got it.
[13:14.760 --> 13:15.760]  Talk to you later.
[13:15.760 --> 13:16.760]  Bye-bye.
[13:16.760 --> 13:17.760]  Okay, bye.
[13:17.760 --> 13:22.320]  Okay, now we're going to grandpa Stan.
[13:22.320 --> 13:25.440]  Grandpa Stan, it's been a long time since I've talked to you.
[13:25.440 --> 13:29.600]  I don't think I've talked to you since you went to Minnesota.
[13:29.600 --> 13:33.960]  Well, yeah, probably not since Minnesota.
[13:33.960 --> 13:38.120]  I just moved to Florida, so I've been in Florida for about a year.
[13:38.120 --> 13:44.480]  Yeah, I was stationed in Florida once and I worked part time on it as in the military
[13:44.480 --> 13:45.480]  for a guy.
[13:45.480 --> 13:52.840]  And he used to say that Florida is the southernmost northern state.
[13:52.840 --> 13:57.480]  He said there are no southerners in Florida, they're all Yankees.
[13:57.480 --> 13:58.480]  Oh, yeah, you're right.
[13:58.480 --> 14:02.800]  Yeah, there's no natives here, they're all some from somewhere else.
[14:02.800 --> 14:03.800]  But it's...
[14:03.800 --> 14:06.080]  Okay, what do you have for us, Stan?
[14:06.080 --> 14:13.440]  Well, I'm involved in a case here as an intervener and there's 15 of us listed as interveners
[14:13.440 --> 14:18.320]  and I'm not that familiar with the term and I'm not that familiar with law.
[14:18.320 --> 14:23.680]  But I'm calling in to see what your take is on it.
[14:23.680 --> 14:24.680]  The fellow that's being...
[14:24.680 --> 14:29.440]  He's got two counts of practicing law without a license.
[14:29.440 --> 14:32.280]  He's facing 15 years.
[14:32.280 --> 14:35.800]  He served 11 years some time ago.
[14:35.800 --> 14:39.600]  The guy is 86 years old.
[14:39.600 --> 14:44.200]  When he was serving his 11 years some 10, 15 years ago, his daughter was also charged
[14:44.200 --> 14:51.720]  and she died in prison and I went to the court the other day where I thought it was a pre-trial
[14:51.720 --> 14:58.520]  hearing and I guess it was sort of a pre-trial hearing in the district court and he was pleading
[14:58.520 --> 15:05.560]  his case and he certainly has no fear to point at the judge or at the prosecutor and
[15:05.560 --> 15:07.320]  say what he thinks.
[15:07.320 --> 15:15.720]  But from our side of the bar, one of our guys got up and said, your honor, we would like
[15:15.720 --> 15:22.440]  to have you put into writing the fact that you won't allow us interveners as assistants
[15:22.440 --> 15:24.760]  and the judge said she would.
[15:24.760 --> 15:29.240]  My question is, how valid is this intervener thing?
[15:29.240 --> 15:39.960]  Okay, if you are not familiar with the peculiarities of Florida's law, but if this is a criminal
[15:39.960 --> 15:46.360]  prosecution, I don't think you can intervene.
[15:46.360 --> 15:50.400]  You have no standing.
[15:50.400 --> 15:53.480]  How did you establish standing to intervene?
[15:53.480 --> 16:02.240]  Well, his argument is that the court doesn't have jurisdiction because he's of common
[16:02.240 --> 16:05.760]  law and he wants to be tried under common law.
[16:05.760 --> 16:07.600]  He's asked for a grand jury investigation.
[16:07.600 --> 16:13.640]  He wants to be indicted by a grand jury, not by the court on his charges.
[16:13.640 --> 16:17.080]  Okay, this goes specifically to Florida law.
[16:17.080 --> 16:18.760]  It's apparently different.
[16:18.760 --> 16:25.600]  If he's being charged with something he can get 15 years for, then that has to be a felony.
[16:25.600 --> 16:30.040]  And if it were Texas, you guarantee you have to be indicted.
[16:30.040 --> 16:36.040]  Is it different in Florida where you don't have to be indicted?
[16:36.040 --> 16:37.040]  That's what it sounds like.
[16:37.040 --> 16:41.040]  I'm afraid this is an area of law I'm not familiar with.
[16:41.040 --> 16:47.040]  We do have another college in Florida, and when we come back to the grave-
[16:47.040 --> 16:50.760]  I could address the merits on the other side when we get back, Randy, as far as the unauthorized
[16:50.760 --> 16:51.760]  practice of law.
[16:51.760 --> 16:52.760]  Okay, good.
[16:52.760 --> 17:04.320]  Okay, Randy Kelton, Darby Seed and Zeta Craig, we'll be right back.
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[19:00.000 --> 19:07.000]  Well, don't let nothing get to you, only the father can do it by you.
[19:07.000 --> 19:12.000]  Don't let backmine people hurt you until it's un-get-behind.
[19:12.000 --> 19:15.000]  You know what I mean?
[19:15.000 --> 19:18.000]  My friend, Mala Jackson.
[19:18.000 --> 19:19.000]  Come on.
[19:19.000 --> 19:21.000]  Don't stay and don't hurt me, crazy.
[19:21.000 --> 19:24.000]  Tell him you're proud of everything.
[19:24.000 --> 19:27.000]  Calling his name once again.
[19:27.000 --> 19:30.000]  Okay, go back.
[19:30.000 --> 19:34.000]  Don't tell me Freddie Stevens had occurred to you on the radio.
[19:34.000 --> 19:38.000]  We're talking to Stan from Florida.
[19:38.000 --> 19:40.000]  And Stan, hang on.
[19:40.000 --> 19:43.000]  I'm going to bring up Roy from Florida now.
[19:43.000 --> 19:44.000]  Don't remember.
[19:44.000 --> 19:50.000]  I don't know how much legal knowledge Roy has, but maybe since he's from the same state,
[19:50.000 --> 19:52.000]  he may be able to give us an input.
[19:52.000 --> 19:54.000]  Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[19:54.000 --> 20:00.000]  Before I do that, any wanting to address this issue?
[20:00.000 --> 20:01.000]  Yeah.
[20:01.000 --> 20:08.000]  Well, specifically here in Texas, someone needs to do a thorough reading of that criminal
[20:08.000 --> 20:11.000]  charge for unauthorized practice of law.
[20:11.000 --> 20:15.000]  Here there are three specific sections of law that need to be looked at when someone
[20:15.000 --> 20:18.000]  accuses you of unauthorized practice of law.
[20:18.000 --> 20:26.000]  And that is the penal code under 38.122, holding oneself out to be a lawyer,
[20:26.000 --> 20:33.000]  38.123, which is specifically unauthorized practice of law.
[20:33.000 --> 20:38.000]  And then you have the government code in two different chapters, chapter 81 and chapter 82.
[20:38.000 --> 20:44.000]  Now, here's the caveat to the unauthorized practice of law as far as Texas law is concerned.
[20:44.000 --> 20:53.000]  There is absolutely no law preventing an individual from acting as legal counsel to anyone else
[20:53.000 --> 21:02.000]  in any kind of case or matter unless the case involves the following.
[21:02.000 --> 21:13.000]  The exclusive right to broker legal services to the accused, the right to prepare documents
[21:13.000 --> 21:17.000]  or act as counsel or any of the above.
[21:17.000 --> 21:27.000]  If a case involves recovery of personal injury damages, if the matter involves the transfer
[21:27.000 --> 21:36.000]  of property, or if the matter involves the release or transfer of a lien, those are the
[21:36.000 --> 21:43.000]  only things that Texas law does not allow a nonlawyer to do.
[21:43.000 --> 21:49.000]  Anything else a nonlawyer can do because there's no law preventing it.
[21:49.000 --> 21:51.000]  Absolutely none.
[21:51.000 --> 21:58.000]  So somebody needs to read that Florida statute carefully and see exactly what constitutes
[21:58.000 --> 22:03.000]  the unauthorized or unlicensed practice of law.
[22:03.000 --> 22:16.000]  Well, what he did is folks come to him to save their mortgages and he felt and he did
[22:16.000 --> 22:23.000]  get into title on these different mortgages that he is now trying to defend.
[22:23.000 --> 22:30.000]  The law may need to see what the statute actually reads.
[22:30.000 --> 22:38.000]  And if you can pull up an annotated statute, go to the legal library.
[22:38.000 --> 22:44.000]  If you have a university that teaches law, go to their library and go into either Lexis
[22:44.000 --> 22:50.000]  or Westlaw and they'll always have a section on annotated statutes.
[22:50.000 --> 22:54.000]  Annotations means it has the case law that goes with the statute.
[22:54.000 --> 22:57.000]  Pull up the statute and then just go down the case law.
[22:57.000 --> 23:03.000]  Just have a paragraph showing what the case goes to and just go down them until you find
[23:03.000 --> 23:08.000]  some addressing that portion of the statute that you're looking at.
[23:08.000 --> 23:17.000]  What the statute actually says is not always indicative of how it's applied.
[23:17.000 --> 23:23.000]  So you go down to the case law and it'll tell you how the courts have applied it.
[23:23.000 --> 23:25.000]  And then you'll know more.
[23:25.000 --> 23:30.000]  But while you're there, let me bring up Roy from Florida.
[23:30.000 --> 23:34.000]  Roy, do you know everything there is to know about Florida law?
[23:34.000 --> 23:37.000]  Well, I wish I did.
[23:37.000 --> 23:38.000]  Okay.
[23:38.000 --> 23:42.000]  Are you and Indian Roy familiar with this particular issue?
[23:42.000 --> 23:44.000]  Yeah, I don't know.
[23:44.000 --> 23:50.000]  I could definitely look it up and get back with somebody.
[23:50.000 --> 23:55.000]  I actually was living there in Texas for a while when I got all of y'all's program
[23:55.000 --> 23:58.000]  and stuff before I moved back to Florida.
[23:58.000 --> 24:05.000]  So a lot of the information I have is from Jurisdictionary and then from Y'all's PD.
[24:05.000 --> 24:06.000]  Okay.
[24:06.000 --> 24:08.000]  We'll come back to you.
[24:08.000 --> 24:13.000]  I was hoping maybe you had a little insight since you're also joining me in Florida.
[24:13.000 --> 24:14.000]  Right.
[24:14.000 --> 24:15.000]  What should be it?
[24:15.000 --> 24:16.000]  Are you going to come back to me?
[24:16.000 --> 24:18.000]  Yes, I will.
[24:18.000 --> 24:19.000]  Okay.
[24:19.000 --> 24:30.000]  The one thing I don't understand is how you can intervene in a criminal case.
[24:30.000 --> 24:32.000]  I don't know either.
[24:32.000 --> 24:35.000]  I'm just a volunteer, I guess.
[24:35.000 --> 24:41.000]  He got 15 of us that he's listed and identified us as interveners to the court.
[24:41.000 --> 24:45.000]  But the court was not going to recognize us anyway.
[24:45.000 --> 24:55.000]  Yeah, and the court may be right in that because generally a criminal prosecution is a matter
[24:55.000 --> 24:59.000]  between the state and the accused.
[24:59.000 --> 25:04.000]  And there's no way for a third party to intervene.
[25:04.000 --> 25:09.000]  There's no way for a third party to have standing.
[25:09.000 --> 25:17.000]  Well, he's meeting a lot of his hopes on us just being there.
[25:17.000 --> 25:20.000]  And we're all a little bit concerned because this guy's no kid.
[25:20.000 --> 25:22.000]  He's 86 right now.
[25:22.000 --> 25:29.000]  And his defense, I think, is just jurisdiction.
[25:29.000 --> 25:34.000]  He wants common law and he's probably not going to get it.
[25:34.000 --> 25:36.000]  He's probably not going to get it.
[25:36.000 --> 25:42.000]  He's probably going to get 15 years, which would be a death sentence.
[25:42.000 --> 25:49.000]  And maybe they may consider the age, but you really need to read the law.
[25:49.000 --> 25:53.000]  You need to see what it says.
[25:53.000 --> 25:56.000]  The judge was just speechless.
[25:56.000 --> 26:02.000]  He went on and on pointing at the prosecutor and pointing at the judge.
[26:02.000 --> 26:08.000]  The judge, the prosecutor, objected that he was threatening the court and he went right to the judge.
[26:08.000 --> 26:10.000]  He said, judge, did I threaten the court at all?
[26:10.000 --> 26:13.000]  And the judge said, no, he didn't.
[26:13.000 --> 26:19.000]  And he spoke for 15, 20 minutes about his rights and what he was attempting to do.
[26:19.000 --> 26:26.000]  And then the judge says, well, we'll see in a couple of weeks, eighth of November, we're supposed to come back.
[26:26.000 --> 26:32.000]  So the judge is considering the position or did he render any kind of judgment?
[26:32.000 --> 26:33.000]  No judgments.
[26:33.000 --> 26:35.000]  And I thought there was supposed to be some.
[26:35.000 --> 26:40.000]  But he filed some more papers while we were there, some amendments to the case.
[26:40.000 --> 26:47.000]  And all I know is we're just sort of crossing our fingers that the poor guy doesn't go to jail.
[26:47.000 --> 26:48.000]  Yeah, okay.
[26:48.000 --> 26:54.000]  I'm kind of afraid I don't know how to help you because it's not my area.
[26:54.000 --> 26:57.000]  Yep, yep, well, you were just helpful just being able to talk to you.
[26:57.000 --> 26:59.000]  So I appreciate that.
[26:59.000 --> 27:02.000]  And like everybody else, we're glad to have you back.
[27:02.000 --> 27:03.000]  Thank you.
[27:03.000 --> 27:04.000]  Thank you.
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.000]  It's good to be back.
[27:05.000 --> 27:06.000]  See you in a trouble.
[27:06.000 --> 27:07.000]  Okay.
[27:07.000 --> 27:08.000]  Thank you, Stan.
[27:08.000 --> 27:09.000]  See you back.
[27:09.000 --> 27:11.000]  And don't be a stranger.
[27:11.000 --> 27:12.000]  Okay.
[27:12.000 --> 27:13.000]  I'll be on.
[27:13.000 --> 27:15.000]  I'm getting into this law stuff.
[27:15.000 --> 27:18.000]  So we're actually, I got involved in Florida here.
[27:18.000 --> 27:19.000]  They've got assemblies.
[27:19.000 --> 27:22.000]  We're trying to organize in each county.
[27:22.000 --> 27:29.000]  The county assemblies are representing common law or trying to get it back to the traditional
[27:29.000 --> 27:31.000]  government that we had a couple hundred years ago.
[27:31.000 --> 27:34.000]  So, but it's not going very well.
[27:34.000 --> 27:37.000]  It just can't get two people agree on hardly anything.
[27:37.000 --> 27:40.000]  Yeah, that's always a problem.
[27:40.000 --> 27:41.000]  Okay.
[27:41.000 --> 27:42.000]  Thank you, Stan.
[27:42.000 --> 27:44.000]  And good luck on the assemblies.
[27:44.000 --> 27:45.000]  You bet.
[27:45.000 --> 27:46.000]  Thanks.
[27:46.000 --> 27:47.000]  Okay.
[27:47.000 --> 27:51.000]  Now we're going to go to Clint in Texas.
[27:51.000 --> 27:52.000]  Hey, Randy.
[27:52.000 --> 27:54.000]  Thanks for being so patient.
[27:54.000 --> 27:56.000]  What do you have for us?
[27:56.000 --> 27:57.000]  Welcome.
[27:57.000 --> 28:04.000]  Hey, I just wanted to the very beginning of the show, you were going to talk about how
[28:04.000 --> 28:13.000]  to make our mail to you in the jail when you were in the jail to be most effective.
[28:13.000 --> 28:16.000]  And I don't know if you ever got to that.
[28:16.000 --> 28:17.000]  Okay.
[28:17.000 --> 28:23.000]  And just sending the mail disease is the main thing.
[28:23.000 --> 28:29.000]  The more mail I get, when I started getting mail, that's when they started calling me Mr.
[28:29.000 --> 28:30.000]  Kelton.
[28:30.000 --> 28:36.000]  So, you know, and they began to be a lot more careful when I first got there.
[28:36.000 --> 28:39.000]  I put in a request for the library.
[28:39.000 --> 28:46.000]  So they took me to this room and the room was used as a chapel.
[28:46.000 --> 28:52.000]  They had a table and a lectern and every chair had a hymnal on it.
[28:52.000 --> 28:58.000]  But that was all that was in the room except a computer that was sitting down in the floor
[28:58.000 --> 29:00.000]  shut off.
[29:00.000 --> 29:09.000]  And on the 14th, when I went to this hearing, I raised an objection that the state failed
[29:09.000 --> 29:19.000]  to provide reasonable accommodation to allow me to exercise my constitutional right to self-representation.
[29:19.000 --> 29:23.000]  And they brought in the jail administrator and he said, oh, they, you know, I told him
[29:23.000 --> 29:24.000]  they had a computer in the floor.
[29:24.000 --> 29:28.000]  All they had to do is set it up and they could download all the programs I needed.
[29:28.000 --> 29:30.000]  Turns out that was the library.
[29:30.000 --> 29:33.000]  They already had it.
[29:33.000 --> 29:37.000]  They disconnected it and set it in the floor.
[29:37.000 --> 29:42.000]  But after I worked him over on the stand and then he started getting all those letters,
[29:42.000 --> 29:44.000]  they made it a failure.
[29:44.000 --> 29:45.000]  Okay, hang on.
[29:45.000 --> 29:48.000]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[29:48.000 --> 29:50.000]  We've got one more caller on the board.
[29:50.000 --> 29:55.000]  So call in 512-646-1984.
[29:55.000 --> 30:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[31:21.000 --> 31:26.000]  Remorseful, he's surrendered to police the next day, returned the money, and pleaded guilty,
[31:26.000 --> 31:28.000]  saying his mama didn't raise him that way.
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[31:46.000 --> 31:48.000]  Could anything be more unfair?
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[32:23.000 --> 32:27.000]  Yeah, I won't.
[32:27.000 --> 32:29.000]  Okay, we're back.
[32:29.000 --> 32:32.000]  Randy Kelton, David Steele, David Craig, doing the radio.
[32:32.000 --> 32:36.000]  We're talking to Clint in Texas.
[32:36.000 --> 32:41.000]  Okay, where were we, Clint? I lost my place.
[32:41.000 --> 32:48.000]  Oh, I was just implying about the most effective way to help someone out in their situation.
[32:48.000 --> 32:57.000]  Okay, most effective way, getting the letters, just getting letters in really changed their perspective.
[32:57.000 --> 33:01.000]  And that's when they started making the...
[33:01.000 --> 33:06.000]  When I asked them to go to the legal library, they didn't fool around, they caught me over there.
[33:06.000 --> 33:08.000]  And that helped a lot.
[33:08.000 --> 33:13.000]  And it was after that that they started making a phone available.
[33:13.000 --> 33:18.000]  And if they think you're in there and nobody cares, they pretty well can do what they want to.
[33:18.000 --> 33:23.000]  But if they know they've got people looking over their shoulder, that changes things.
[33:23.000 --> 33:31.000]  And anytime, you know, tyranny cannot tolerate sunshine.
[33:31.000 --> 33:35.000]  People looking over their shoulders pay attention to what they're doing.
[33:35.000 --> 33:44.000]  They're used to people coming into their court and being tried, and the whole courtroom is empty except for the litigants and the lawyers.
[33:44.000 --> 33:54.000]  So they're used to, although we were guaranteed a public court, for the most part, nobody's interested.
[33:54.000 --> 33:59.000]  And when they start pulling their shenanigans, when they got people watching,
[33:59.000 --> 34:04.000]  one of the primary things that helped me were the court watchers.
[34:04.000 --> 34:07.000]  They caught things I didn't.
[34:07.000 --> 34:10.000]  And they put pressure on the judge.
[34:10.000 --> 34:14.000]  One of the things, they kept asking the judge to speak up.
[34:14.000 --> 34:17.000]  And he threatened Ken.
[34:17.000 --> 34:20.000]  And Ken asked him to speak up.
[34:20.000 --> 34:24.000]  And so Ken immediately filed a judicial card to complain against him.
[34:24.000 --> 34:29.000]  So they get people looking at him, it gets their attention.
[34:29.000 --> 34:42.000]  They send letters requesting information, or letters of complaint, or indicating concern to politicians.
[34:42.000 --> 34:49.000]  Politicians are especially sensitive, and especially now.
[34:49.000 --> 34:59.000]  Because every incumbent going into an election now goes in at a disadvantage.
[34:59.000 --> 35:11.000]  Because when the public doesn't know who to vote for, when one is bad as the other, what they do know is who to vote against.
[35:11.000 --> 35:14.000]  And that's the incumbent.
[35:14.000 --> 35:18.000]  Because things are a mess and this guy hasn't fixed it.
[35:18.000 --> 35:24.000]  So get letters to your congressman.
[35:24.000 --> 35:25.000]  Call him.
[35:25.000 --> 35:31.000]  You won't get to congressman or representative or the senator directly.
[35:31.000 --> 35:33.000]  You'll get one of his aides.
[35:33.000 --> 35:40.000]  And if you can light the aide up, he has the politician's ear.
[35:40.000 --> 35:48.000]  And the aide doesn't want people upset at his boss because he wants to preserve the votes.
[35:48.000 --> 36:01.000]  If it looks like he's got somebody out there that's demanded that his boss do something and ready to take action if he doesn't to cost the boss a vote, that will really get their attention.
[36:01.000 --> 36:09.000]  We got some legislation passed in Texas here on 39.03.
[36:09.000 --> 36:14.000]  And where it increased, 39.03 is official oppression.
[36:14.000 --> 36:20.000]  It increased it if someone's been harmed by a public official committing official oppression.
[36:20.000 --> 36:23.000]  It upped it from a class A misdemeanor to a felony.
[36:23.000 --> 36:36.000]  And I have no doubt the primary reason that came out of committee the way it did and got passed was that Eddie went down there and raked those officials over the cold.
[36:36.000 --> 36:39.000]  He crawled up one side of them and down the other.
[36:39.000 --> 36:41.000]  It got their attention.
[36:41.000 --> 36:48.000]  So it does 99% of the people never do anything political.
[36:48.000 --> 36:54.000]  So the few of us that do, it has a strong effect.
[36:54.000 --> 37:04.000]  And if you just start writing state representatives and state senators and just read them the riot act, they're going to, they get through these letters.
[37:04.000 --> 37:07.000]  They're going to call up down there and say, hey, what in the heck is going on?
[37:07.000 --> 37:09.000]  Why am I getting all these letters?
[37:09.000 --> 37:13.000]  That's the most powerful thing you can do.
[37:13.000 --> 37:16.000]  You're right.
[37:16.000 --> 37:24.000]  I happened to be blast and I was able to be there at the Capitol when Eddie was there when he made his testimony.
[37:24.000 --> 37:37.000]  And it was one of those deals, it's one of those, just to be honest, you don't get to see someone, you know, own the information like that and be able to display it.
[37:37.000 --> 37:48.000]  But Randy, thank you for your work and thanks for supporting Radio Station and I hope to hear from you on the radio some more.
[37:48.000 --> 37:55.000]  Okay, thank you very much and thanks especially for calling in and giving us your input.
[37:55.000 --> 38:01.000]  Okay, now we're going to go to Roy in Florida.
[38:01.000 --> 38:04.000]  Hello Roy, what do you got for us?
[38:04.000 --> 38:07.000]  Hey, yeah, I have a question.
[38:07.000 --> 38:12.000]  You know, actually when I started using you guys, I was living there in Abilene, Texas.
[38:12.000 --> 38:18.000]  I was at the desk and about jurisdiction areas, but I'm trying to help Guy out in North Dakota.
[38:18.000 --> 38:26.000]  He's trying to get a resisting arrest charge from about 10 years ago expunged and he inquired about it.
[38:26.000 --> 38:31.000]  They basically told him, you know, don't even try it because we don't allow that.
[38:31.000 --> 38:34.000]  Okay, was he convicted?
[38:34.000 --> 38:38.000]  Yeah, convicted for resisting arrest.
[38:38.000 --> 38:41.000]  Okay, he cannot get it expunged, period.
[38:41.000 --> 38:43.000]  No, no chance.
[38:43.000 --> 38:46.000]  No chance, no real not happen.
[38:46.000 --> 38:52.000]  If you plead guilty or you are convicted, no chance it can be expunged.
[38:52.000 --> 38:53.000]  Okay.
[38:53.000 --> 39:05.000]  If it's dismissed or if you are found not guilty, it can be expunged and you only have a certain time frame in which to get it done.
[39:05.000 --> 39:10.000]  Yeah, if the statute of limitations runs on it, even though it's a deferred adjudication,
[39:10.000 --> 39:16.000]  if they do not file a complaint or an indictment through the time of your deferred adjudication,
[39:16.000 --> 39:20.000]  once the statute of limitations is out, you can get it expunged,
[39:20.000 --> 39:28.000]  even though you can even get the arrest itself expunged as long as the complaint or indictment was never filed.
[39:28.000 --> 39:30.000]  Okay, all right.
[39:30.000 --> 39:32.000]  I have one more question for you guys.
[39:32.000 --> 39:34.000]  I just moved back to Florida.
[39:34.000 --> 39:40.000]  I was there in Texas, I've come down to Austin a couple of times and listened to you guys.
[39:40.000 --> 39:48.000]  Do you have a list of contacts of a support group here in the Florida area that I can start working with?
[39:48.000 --> 39:49.000]  Not yet.
[39:49.000 --> 39:50.000]  We don't.
[39:50.000 --> 39:53.000]  The new website is going to give us the ability to start facilitating that.
[39:53.000 --> 40:01.000]  It's going to have a calendar and meetup section on the pages that will allow you to look at any particular area of a given state
[40:01.000 --> 40:07.000]  for people that need court watchers, have upcoming court events and so on and so forth.
[40:07.000 --> 40:10.000]  So you'll be able to not only see a list of people in that state,
[40:10.000 --> 40:15.000]  but any scheduled event that individual may have.
[40:15.000 --> 40:20.000]  Okay, because quick, what's going on is I'm helping this lady.
[40:20.000 --> 40:21.000]  She's got to take it.
[40:21.000 --> 40:27.000]  That's just going to rest it for flashing her high beams to warning people that cops were behind.
[40:27.000 --> 40:32.000]  Well, there's no such loss of the arrest of her.
[40:32.000 --> 40:38.000]  So in doing research to help this lady out, I found out from 2005 to 2010,
[40:38.000 --> 40:44.000]  over 4,500 people have been convicted under a law that does not even.
[40:44.000 --> 40:55.000]  Okay, there are a couple of class action lawsuits going on with that right now in Florida.
[40:55.000 --> 41:00.000]  I just had someone talk to me about that yesterday, I believe.
[41:00.000 --> 41:06.000]  After I got out of that hearing, Robert Fox and some other folks were there.
[41:06.000 --> 41:11.000]  One of the guys there was talking about that exact issue.
[41:11.000 --> 41:15.000]  So if you'll do an internet search on that issue, you'll find these,
[41:15.000 --> 41:18.000]  there's a couple of major suits out there.
[41:18.000 --> 41:23.000]  And I think we'll either one or two of them have won already.
[41:23.000 --> 41:24.000]  Okay.
[41:24.000 --> 41:28.000]  So you'll find stuff out there on that issue for that one.
[41:28.000 --> 41:30.000]  Okay.
[41:30.000 --> 41:31.000]  All right, sir, how was it?
[41:31.000 --> 41:33.000]  Y'all have a good weekend.
[41:33.000 --> 41:34.000]  All righty.
[41:34.000 --> 41:36.000]  Thank you very much.
[41:36.000 --> 41:42.000]  Okay, now we're going to go to Sarah in Texas.
[41:42.000 --> 41:46.000]  Sarah, what do you have for us tonight?
[41:46.000 --> 41:47.000]  Hello.
[41:47.000 --> 41:49.000]  You there, Randy?
[41:49.000 --> 41:51.000]  Yes, I'm here.
[41:51.000 --> 41:53.000]  Thank you.
[41:53.000 --> 41:59.000]  The other situation was Bank of America who's saying that even though I have
[41:59.000 --> 42:04.000]  given them mortgage, they say that they've mailed that back.
[42:04.000 --> 42:07.000]  What do you do when you're trying to find the check and they're not
[42:07.000 --> 42:12.000]  up in the proof that they've sent it back but they're wanting to call for
[42:12.000 --> 42:16.000]  foreclosure after you've made it through loan modification?
[42:16.000 --> 42:17.000]  Okay.
[42:17.000 --> 42:20.000]  You have completed a loan modification?
[42:20.000 --> 42:22.000]  Sure have.
[42:22.000 --> 42:26.000]  And you mailed them a check in accordance with the loan modification
[42:26.000 --> 42:30.000]  agreement?
[42:30.000 --> 42:32.000]  Say that again, Randy?
[42:32.000 --> 42:36.000]  I say you mailed them a check in accordance with the loan modification
[42:36.000 --> 42:37.000]  agreement?
[42:37.000 --> 42:39.000]  Correct, correct.
[42:39.000 --> 42:42.000]  And they didn't accept it?
[42:42.000 --> 42:48.000]  And then they were saying that they had mailed both back for
[42:48.000 --> 42:52.000]  completeness but they've not made the statement about why they were
[42:52.000 --> 42:58.000]  incomplete yet they met up to the dollar value of the monthly mortgage.
[42:58.000 --> 43:04.000]  And nor have I received any proof that they sent the check back.
[43:04.000 --> 43:10.000]  Okay, have you checked the bank to see if it's cleared the bank?
[43:10.000 --> 43:12.000]  Pardon?
[43:12.000 --> 43:15.000]  Did you check with your bank to see if it may have cleared your account?
[43:15.000 --> 43:18.000]  Maybe they cashed it and lied to you.
[43:18.000 --> 43:21.000]  I had sent it through money order.
[43:21.000 --> 43:24.000]  I didn't go through the check.
[43:24.000 --> 43:27.000]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[43:27.000 --> 43:29.000]  I'll address this on the other side.
[43:29.000 --> 43:34.000]  There is a lot of flat coming at these guys for fraud in this heart
[43:34.000 --> 43:37.000]  program and the loan modifications.
[43:37.000 --> 43:39.000]  We'll talk about that when we come back.
[43:39.000 --> 43:42.000]  This is Randy Kelkin, Debbie Stevens and Craig.
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[46:27.000 --> 46:36.000]  All right folks, we are back.
[46:36.000 --> 46:38.000]  This is really long radio.
[46:38.000 --> 46:43.000]  Sorry about that, Randy, and I were discussing something when I actually beat it by accident.
[46:43.000 --> 46:47.000]  All right, Randy, do you want to pick back up the callers?
[46:47.000 --> 46:48.000]  Yes.
[46:48.000 --> 46:55.000]  This is about the load modification fraud, the Hark program that Obama put in place to
[46:55.000 --> 47:07.000]  give the bank's incentive to provide loan modifications for people in mortgage issues.
[47:07.000 --> 47:15.000]  Last, early, just a few months ago, there was some pretty big stories out about the
[47:15.000 --> 47:24.000]  Obama administration suspending all payments to Bank of America and Wells Fargo.
[47:24.000 --> 47:37.000]  In the Hark program, because they were committing massive fraud in the modification program.
[47:37.000 --> 47:44.000]  Just today, we were talking to someone here in Texas, and they had had this issue.
[47:44.000 --> 47:47.000]  I have a friend that I work with, Kid Magnuson.
[47:47.000 --> 47:53.000]  He's had exactly the issue happen with him, and we have a lot of information on this fraud.
[47:53.000 --> 47:59.000]  You can go back and sue the bank for fraud.
[47:59.000 --> 48:09.000]  When they go into the loan modification program, one of the things they tell you, you have to be using default in order to qualify.
[48:09.000 --> 48:20.000]  So you enter the modification negotiations, and while your negotiations are running a foreclosure process,
[48:20.000 --> 48:29.000]  they tell you, you don't have to worry about that, that the modification will stop the foreclosure process as soon as they get a deal
[48:29.000 --> 48:33.000]  for what they give to Ken and a whole lot of other people.
[48:33.000 --> 48:44.000]  They would stall the modification process and then call them on a Tuesday morning and tell them the first Tuesday of a month
[48:44.000 --> 48:55.000]  and say, we denied your loan modification in general because of too much delay that they created, and they sell their house immediately.
[48:55.000 --> 49:01.000]  In your case, you got a modification, so enter the modification.
[49:01.000 --> 49:07.000]  As a rule, the penalty for missing a payment then is much greater.
[49:07.000 --> 49:12.000]  You essentially waive a lot of your rights when you go into the modification.
[49:12.000 --> 49:16.000]  And now if you miss a payment, they can foreclose immediately.
[49:16.000 --> 49:23.000]  And it sounds like in your case, you didn't miss the payment, so they just trashed it.
[49:23.000 --> 49:36.000]  And a problem with money orders, if you don't have an absolute way of ensuring that they got it, did you send it certified return receipt?
[49:36.000 --> 49:40.000]  Did I tend the receipts return?
[49:40.000 --> 49:45.000]  Yes, the payment. Did you send it by certified mail return receipt request?
[49:45.000 --> 49:49.000]  No, I did not. During the payments, I did not.
[49:49.000 --> 49:53.000]  That's when I sent the regular payment of my monthly mortgages, I did not.
[49:53.000 --> 50:01.000]  Yes, they are absolutely corrupt and they may have cashed it.
[50:01.000 --> 50:05.000]  And they just told you to send it back or they may have done something with it.
[50:05.000 --> 50:14.000]  The fraud is so endemic that once you send it to them, now you can establish that you paid.
[50:14.000 --> 50:20.000]  If they fail to pay, I pick on people a lot about the UCC.
[50:20.000 --> 50:24.000]  They're trying to apply the UCC where it doesn't apply.
[50:24.000 --> 50:27.000]  It only applies to the sale of goods and services.
[50:27.000 --> 50:31.000]  This is a place where it absolutely applies.
[50:31.000 --> 50:38.000]  The payment tendered and denied is payment made.
[50:38.000 --> 50:43.000]  You sent the payment, they denied it and you can establish it.
[50:43.000 --> 50:45.000]  That's what's supposed to be paid.
[50:45.000 --> 50:54.000]  So there's no question about the statement that I was giving over that I had accomplished that.
[50:54.000 --> 51:03.000]  It's just like a change in the midstream. Oh, by the way, wait a minute.
[51:03.000 --> 51:09.000]  And no answer except something had changed midstream.
[51:09.000 --> 51:20.000]  So I was trying to find out what it was that I was supposed to be able to do to go back to counter something they said or done.
[51:20.000 --> 51:29.000]  Okay. The only thing you go by is what's in the modification agreement.
[51:29.000 --> 51:33.000]  Did they abide by the modification agreement?
[51:33.000 --> 51:38.000]  Okay. I do have a modification agreement. Yes, I do. I got that.
[51:38.000 --> 51:45.000]  Did they say that the reason they didn't accept the payment was that you violated some tender to the agreement?
[51:45.000 --> 51:47.000]  No.
[51:47.000 --> 51:53.000]  Okay. They just sent the payment back. Did they say why they sent it back?
[51:53.000 --> 52:02.000]  That it wasn't meeting the amount that they were now requesting, but nothing was stating anything different.
[52:02.000 --> 52:13.000]  Okay. So this meant the amount that you were notified that they were requesting. Is that true?
[52:13.000 --> 52:16.000]  I mean, how did you know how much to pay them?
[52:16.000 --> 52:19.000]  Because I received them at the statement.
[52:19.000 --> 52:22.000]  And you paid in accordance with the statement?
[52:22.000 --> 52:23.000]  Yes.
[52:23.000 --> 52:27.000]  Okay. What they did, they sent it back and then they registered you at no pay.
[52:27.000 --> 52:35.000]  They didn't send anything. They waited. They waited until an agreement of it appears three months and then sent all three months back.
[52:35.000 --> 52:37.000]  Okay. You need to sue them for fraud.
[52:37.000 --> 52:40.000]  I don't want anything to that backdoctor.
[52:40.000 --> 52:43.000]  Wait. Say that again?
[52:43.000 --> 52:51.000]  They sent the accumulated three months back, they said in the form of a check.
[52:51.000 --> 52:55.000]  I never received any beating in the form.
[52:55.000 --> 52:56.000]  Oh.
[52:56.000 --> 52:58.000]  Oh, hold on. Okay.
[52:58.000 --> 52:59.000]  Check.
[52:59.000 --> 53:01.000]  Hold on.
[53:01.000 --> 53:08.000]  Okay. They say then clearly they cashed the money orders you sent them.
[53:08.000 --> 53:11.000]  Correct. They cashed it.
[53:11.000 --> 53:15.000]  And then they decided they didn't want it. Well, they've got a problem.
[53:15.000 --> 53:21.000]  And the only way that I know of that you'll be able to address the problem is sue them.
[53:21.000 --> 53:25.000]  You filed suit against them. Now you get your attention.
[53:25.000 --> 53:32.000]  And suing them for fraud in the modification area, there's a lot of pressure on that right now.
[53:32.000 --> 53:37.000]  Well, I'm ready to do that. I feel very...
[53:37.000 --> 53:45.000]  worth writing in doing that because I've met everything possible.
[53:45.000 --> 53:53.000]  All the negotiations and trying to be civil with them just doesn't work.
[53:53.000 --> 53:55.000]  They're criminals.
[53:55.000 --> 53:57.000]  And they're used to defrauding people.
[53:57.000 --> 54:03.000]  The only thing that I've ever seen that gets their attention is a lawsuit.
[54:03.000 --> 54:08.000]  You filed in the state or you filed in the Fed, but that's the only thing that gets their attention.
[54:08.000 --> 54:09.000]  Okay.
[54:09.000 --> 54:14.000]  I was working with Ken. He's working up something on that very issue right now.
[54:14.000 --> 54:24.000]  So if you'll call me a Tuesday, we'll address that issue and we'll get you something going on that.
[54:24.000 --> 54:30.000]  Okay. Can I receive that number later or is there this number or what?
[54:30.000 --> 54:35.000]  The number on my Skype. You were calling me. I had some calls from you that I...
[54:35.000 --> 54:39.000]  where you'd missed when I was in jail. I couldn't answer.
[54:39.000 --> 54:46.000]  But the 515... 512-515-1565 number.
[54:46.000 --> 54:47.000]  Thank you.
[54:47.000 --> 54:50.000]  You are most welcome.
[54:50.000 --> 54:57.000]  Okay. We're going to go to Andre in Missouri.
[54:57.000 --> 54:59.000]  Yes, sir.
[54:59.000 --> 55:05.000]  Okay. Andre, as I recalled, you were pretty fluent in Missouri law.
[55:05.000 --> 55:10.000]  I know a little one or two things.
[55:10.000 --> 55:16.000]  I kind of researched Missouri revised statutes a lot.
[55:16.000 --> 55:26.000]  And I wanted to point out a couple of Missouri revised statutes that have to do with mortgages,
[55:26.000 --> 55:30.000]  of trusts, and mortgage brokers here in Missouri.
[55:30.000 --> 55:35.000]  But before I kind of spill that out, I wanted to ask you a question.
[55:35.000 --> 55:42.000]  And the question is, I was involved with a dispute with my employer.
[55:42.000 --> 55:53.000]  Basically, I had a child support order that allegedly claims I'm supposed to maintain medical coverage for my children.
[55:53.000 --> 56:01.000]  Well, it turns out, and I declined coverage with my company.
[56:01.000 --> 56:06.000]  They send out the forms every year. You fill them out. You accept the coverage or you decline it.
[56:06.000 --> 56:12.000]  Well, I declined all covers. Medical, dental, visual, vision for all my family.
[56:12.000 --> 56:28.000]  And what my employer did was enrolled me in the medical, dental, and vision anyway and based it on the fact that they had received an order from child support enforcement.
[56:28.000 --> 56:44.000]  So subsequently, through much wrangling, I found out that the order, at the very least, does not allow for forced deduction of medical premiums for vision and dental.
[56:44.000 --> 56:51.000]  Okay. So they took money from me for these coverages over the course of a couple of years.
[56:51.000 --> 57:03.000]  And I sent them a demand letter basically telling them, you know, I was going to sue them if they didn't give me my money plus $100 a day for every day, because if they kept it.
[57:03.000 --> 57:09.000]  Because I've been telling them this from the beginning. I never wanted to take any money.
[57:09.000 --> 57:17.000]  No other employer has ever done this to me. Anytime I've had these orders in place, they've been in place for over 10 years.
[57:17.000 --> 57:22.000]  And I've never had an employer where I declined the coverage and they put it on anyway.
[57:22.000 --> 57:29.000]  Anyway, I disputed that with them for a long period of time.
[57:29.000 --> 57:37.000]  I sent them a demand letter finally. They put my demand letter and all the information I sent them to their lawyer.
[57:37.000 --> 57:43.000]  As a matter of fact, he's a lawyer out of Texas. As a matter of fact, my company is based in Texas.
[57:43.000 --> 57:51.000]  And so the lawyer basically blew me off for like a month or two.
[57:51.000 --> 57:55.000]  Well, not even a month or two. I'm sorry. He didn't blow me off for a month or two.
[57:55.000 --> 58:00.000]  He blew me off initially. He wouldn't respond to me at all.
[58:00.000 --> 58:05.000]  And after calling him, he finally told me he's on vacation or something or another.
[58:05.000 --> 58:11.000]  And I hear the music coming. So I can quickly wrap this little story up if you allow me on the other side.
[58:11.000 --> 58:15.000]  Yeah, yeah, we'll pick you up on the other side.
[58:15.000 --> 58:22.000]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Debra Stephens and Craig. We use our radio, our call boards, pretty well empty.
[58:22.000 --> 58:30.000]  So if you have any questions or comments, give us a call. 512-646-1984.
[58:30.000 --> 58:35.000]  We'll take your questions and comments.
[58:35.000 --> 58:40.000]  This is the top of the hour break so we'll be able to get an extended three-minute break.
[58:40.000 --> 58:45.000]  We'll be back on the other side. Thank you for...
[58:45.000 --> 59:11.000]  Ah, talk to you on the other side. Bye.
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[01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:51.000]  For those of you who are out there listening that haven't called in to welcome Randy back, please do so.
[01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  The call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.000]  We do have a couple of callers up on the board.
[01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.000]  Andre and Doug, we're going to go to Andre.
[01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.000]  Andre, what can we do for you this evening?
[01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:12.000]  Okay, and just in a nutshell, I got into a dispute with my employer.
[01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  I sent him a demand letter.
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  They obtained counsel for several different reasons. I bar-grieved that counsel.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.000]  That is music to my ears.
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:45.000]  I had a right to. He was actually doing the things that I laid out according to the rules he was supposed to be abiding by, and I put it in the wording of the law and everything.
[01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:59.000]  So consequently, he turns around and informs my employer probably after something happening to him at his law firm.
[01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:07.000]  I'm sure someone had said something to him about it, because even though they did dismiss them, I've listened to what you said about that.
[01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:15.000]  He cries to my employer probably asking them to fire me.
[01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  They sent me a letter saying that they didn't agree with my demand letter and that they felt like they've done right by me and that I've gone so far.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:49.000]  Basically, they've put up with enough of my lip, and I've gone so far as to bar-grieve their attorney, and if I say anything else about this particular matter, or bar-grieve their attorney anymore, that I will be fired.
[01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  And they sent that to me in writing.
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:06:05.000]  I want to get your reaction on that first. That goes to retaliation and tampering with the witness.
[01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  You have noticed them in accordance with law that you've been harmed. This is what you're required to do.
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:18.000]  And in retaliation, you've been threatened. This is retaliation.
[01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  Yes.
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  So I would make a complaint to the local prosecutor about it.
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:36.000]  And what are the hours of employment in Missouri? What rights to employment do you have?
[01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:43.000]  Texas is at real estate. You don't have any rights as an employee.
[01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  But other states do this. Go ahead.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.000]  Missouri also.
[01:06:50.000 --> 01:07:03.000]  Okay, so you don't have an ownership in the time and investment you put into an employment situation?
[01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  No.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:15.000]  Still, this comes up retaliation that you've noticed them that they've harmed you. They're essentially stealing money from you.
[01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  Yeah.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:33.000]  Okay, even in Texas, it being a right to work state, if you're an employer, if you work and an employer doesn't pay you, that is a big deal.
[01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:35.000]  It is.
[01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  And that's what this is. You have worked and an employer didn't pay you.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  Let the employer try to explain this. If you don't have a contract authorizing him to take money out of your paycheck, so far as I know the courts have no authority to direct him to take that out of your paycheck.
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:04.000]  Now, they do have authority to direct you to ask him to do that.
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  But I know of no authority for them to go to a third party and take your money this way.
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:23.000]  Right. That's how it is in Missouri. Even if those coverages had been ordered and I declined them, they would have had to forward some information to Missouri and the non-custodial parent and have them somehow fill out the documents and return it to them.
[01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  They've been able to legally do as they did, as far as I can see.
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:39.000]  This is kind of like the situation where you get separated from your wife and before you get a divorce, you're trying to do the right thing.
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:47.000]  So, while the divorce is going on, you give her money for support.
[01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:55.000]  And then when the child support comes out, they're going to go back to the beginning and demand you pay child support from the time you originally started the divorce.
[01:08:55.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  And you're going to say, wait a minute, I've been giving her money all along and they're going to say, that don't count.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  That's not in the order, so it doesn't count.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  Now, your employer can pay for your insurance if he wants to.
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  Right. But no, he's saying you're going to work and I'm going to take your money and I'm going to pay for coverages that you have declined.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:21.000]  Exactly.
[01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  And I'm going to use this court order as cover to do it.
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:39.000]  Well, have you researched the issue to see if there's any Missouri case law or immediately Missouri statute authorizing them to do that?
[01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  Well, I'm going to continue to do that.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000]  I haven't really found anything that jumped out to me yet.
[01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  But I wanted to ask you about that lawyer and him telling them that I bar grieved him.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  I thought bar grieves weren't supposed to be a private thing.
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  It is in Texas and I'm going to bet it is in Missouri.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  You should bar grieve him for that.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000]  But I did.
[01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  My company is in Texas.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  He's in Texas.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  I had thought about doing that, but I kind of need this job right now.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  And they told me if I bar grieved their attorney that they were going to give me the boot immediately.
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  And so until I'm prepared to move on, I'm not going to do that just yet.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  But I was going to do that.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  I called Texas Bar Association.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.000]  I called into the department that handles the bar grievances.
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  And I posed that question to them.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  And before I fully explained the situation, I got the first person on the phone.
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  I explained it to her and she said, oh, that attorney can get in trouble for that.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:51.000]  He's not supposed to reveal about the bar grievance and isn't that.
[01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  And then she put me on hold and I guess put her supervisor on the line and then the supervisor came and told me it's a situation like,
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  my employer can write me up and they're legally bound not to tell anyone else that they wrote me up.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:09.000]  But I'm allowed to go tell other people that I was written up at work, for instance.
[01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.000]  And that's the example that she gave me.
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:27.000]  No, it's in the Texas Bar that when a grievance is filed, the attorney is absolutely not to address it with the client or with the person who filed it.
[01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  That's what the bar is there to do.
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:32.000]  So they are specifically forbidden.
[01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  And here this is an act of retaliation.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  What you might do to protect yourself is go to the prostitute, your local district attorney, and make an accusation of retaliation.
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  That you filed a notice.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  This is the case I mentioned earlier about these two nurses filing the complaint.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  Your complaint to the bar is private.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000]  You're not revealing that information to the public.
[01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  So that's private.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.000]  And he wasn't supposed to reveal it to the public.
[01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:15.000]  So he revealed it to someone who would then use it against you.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  This is exactly what happened to nurses.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000]  To threaten me with it.
[01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:27.000]  Look up your state in Missouri statutes for retaliation.
[01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:32.000]  And apply to what they're doing, even though they're based in Texas and using the Texas lawyer.
[01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:37.000]  Oh, no, they're in that actually what apply.
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  This lawyer has to be authorized to practice law in Missouri.
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  He's not.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:47.000]  And I have checked.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  He's not.
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  And I was going to bargain for that too.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  But before I got this letter.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  Because you know, and I don't take this lightly. I don't bomb laughing to keep from crying.
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  I don't bother.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  Yeah, okay.
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:05.000]  The reason I say protect yourself by filing a criminal complaint.
[01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  Once you make a criminal filing.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000]  Now you put them on very, very touchy grounds.
[01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  Now you're a witness before governmental tribunal.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:23.000]  I've done that to a certain a few officials of child support enforcement for the.
[01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  You know, it's just like mortgages.
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  And I appreciate what you told me.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:32.000]  Because I've taken that in and I'm going to listen to this show again, you know, for sure.
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:34.000]  And write down everything you said.
[01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.000]  But I want to move on because of what you just said.
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:41.000]  And this is as I filed a bargain, it says against these officials.
[01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:48.000]  I started to notice that in child support enforcement, you'll find similar tactics as used in mortgages.
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  They foreclose on people using fraudulent documents.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:14:07.000]  Most people, I'd say that it just as a guess that at least half the default judgment for child support enforcement in Missouri were default because the person they were coming at the defendant was never served.
[01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:15.000]  And I can show I got a couple of fraudulent proof of services to prove that that happens.
[01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  But now to kind of segue over to mortgages in Missouri in Chapter 443.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  And I'm looking at Section 443.130.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:41.000]  They have a liability for failing to satisfy demand by certified mail required.
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  And basically what that lays out is if a mortgage, at the county recorders, the mortgage company that's listed there as our mortgage holders, this is some stuff I learned from you,
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  the mortgage company that's listed there is not the mortgage company we're paying now, okay?
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:21.000]  Missouri Revised Statues allows for you to contact the lean holder of record for your deed of trust and request that they go ahead and record a valid assignment or record a release of deed,
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  whichever may be the case.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.000]  The release of deed usually comes when the mortgage has been satisfied with good funds.
[01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  So Missouri Revised Statues allows you to uncloud your title.
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  You can go in, you can request the mortgage company that's on your record, in the records at the courts down there.
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  You send them a certified letter laid out in that law and others related to it.
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  And they have 45 days from the day that they receive that letter to either record a valid assignment or record a deed of release or they'll be subject to the person who asked for it, the homeowner,
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  the person who asked for it, they'll be subject to him for $100 a day for every day after the 45th day that they fail to respond.
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  And they cap it off by saying with a maximum, you can't exceed 10% of the secured amount.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  They've got $100,000 more down there, $10,000 if they don't respond within a certain period of time.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  And I'm going, I'm clouding our mortgage and I'm all over it.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  That's a good break.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  We'll pick you back up on the other side.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  Okay.
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[01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.000]  There was Steven, Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, David Nadio.
[01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.000]  We're talking to Andre in Missouri.
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:32.000]  Okay, Andre, go ahead.
[01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:39.000]  Yeah, and so once again that was section 443.130, Missouri Revised Statutes.
[01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  Basically giving you the right to request from the mortgage holder of record that they either submit to you a deed of relief because the mortgage has been satisfied or record a valid assignment.
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  And so I've done that on one particular property that my family owns and the company of record has gone out of business.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  Okay, I said, well, that's great because now I can prove that I've served you at your place where they receive service.
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.000]  I've served there and I can prove that.
[01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  And so according to that statute, that company, that decedent company owes me, my family actually, about $10,000 to be recovered.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  Oh, wait a minute. Hold on here. They got a big problem.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  Why is that?
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  Before the company went out of business, they had to have filed that assignment.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  No.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  Now there's no one who can.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  Well, yes, there is. According to Missouri Revised Statute, that's why I love talking to you, Randy, and Deborah and Eddie.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:10.000]  But Missouri Revised Statutes goes on to say, personal representatives may satisfy and deliver a deed or a release.
[01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  That's Missouri Revised Statute section 443.1.
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  The problem is, is this company cannot have a personal representative because it doesn't exist?
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:31.000]  Well, it says the personal representative of the holder or owner of the indebtedness secured by any security instrument.
[01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  Okay.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.000]  How do they establish that they are the holder?
[01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  Huh? What did you say again?
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  How would they establish that they are the holder?
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  Because they're recorded in the county recorder.
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  Okay. The recorded holder doesn't exist?
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  No, it doesn't.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:59.000]  So how is the recorded holder going to give anybody an assignment?
[01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  Through its personal representatives.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  It can't. It doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't have one.
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  Well, that's why they give it the designation as a decedent. The decedent, whoever died, that company died, is no longer exist.
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  So now its personal representatives are held.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  How do they appoint, how does a personal representative become a personal representative for a defunct company?
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:38.000]  By being a person who represented that company in person, as in like a CEO or a president of that company, whoever filed the documents to...
[01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.000]  With the Secretary of State.
[01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:47.000]  Okay. Do you have case law on that?
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:52.000]  No. I'm only looking at the statues. I don't have any case law, really, to speak of.
[01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:59.000]  Be real careful about using reason.
[01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  You're reasoning that someone who was a principal of the company can still come in and represent that company.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  I'm saying no, they can't.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:21.000]  Not unless they're not a principal of the company anymore, because the company doesn't exist.
[01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  The law requires that these be filed so that you can trace holdership.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  If this company absolutely had a duty, if it was going out of business, they had a duty to transfer this to someone else, and they didn't.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:44.000]  So now you have a...
[01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:55.000]  A spectrum, and maybe this will help. This company was seemingly a front brokerage for...
[01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  I want to say... Oh my God, I hate it when they slip my mind. It'll come to me.
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  It was a front company for a larger company whose CEO is currently in prison, I believe.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:13.000]  They went out of business in late 2009.
[01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  The problem is, they had a duty to do this before they went out of business.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  Yeah, but they didn't.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.000]  Now it can't be done. They created themselves a fatal flaw here.
[01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  No one can come along and say, we represent this company. You say, prove it. What company?
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  I got to document a copy of the note showing that it was signed over without recourse to the company who actually funded the loan.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  You know how to store those.
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:59.000]  Okay, hold on. Let's be careful what you do here. This is law. It's different than normal civil behavior.
[01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:11.000]  The only place the court can look, if there is a requirement, I know there is under the real estate settlement procedures act,
[01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  that a holder filed the notice of his holdership with the county registrar within 60 days.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  If he hasn't done that, the only place the court can look for who is the holder is in the county registrar's office within the four corners of that file.
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:39.000]  Now we don't care what kind of crap over paperwork they got out there in the public.
[01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.000]  Bank of America claim they go foreclose if we don't pay.
[01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  Then you, okay, with my real estate and remedies in real estate, we have reworked the first suit that we filed.
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:05.000]  So it's four pages and it addresses one issue. Who are you?
[01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:14.000]  You sent me this notice you want me to pay. If I don't pay up this whole note, you're going to foreclose on my property.
[01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:18.000]  Who are you? I never entered into a contract with you.
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  That's right.
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  You claim you have authority to collect this debt.
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:36.000]  Now under Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, if someone makes a claim that they're going to take some action in order to collect the debt,
[01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:41.000]  when they don't have the authority to take that action, then that's a violation of the act.
[01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:46.000]  So you've claimed that you have authority to collect this debt.
[01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:53.000]  You've made a proactive statement of standing.
[01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  Now I don't have to prove that you don't have the authority to do what you claimed you had authority to do.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  You are the one that made the claim you have to prove that you have the authority.
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  So prove it.
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:17.000]  And the only way they can prove it are with legal filings in the county registrar's office.
[01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  And if they come and say, well, we have these documents here, but they're not filed with the county registrar's office, then they come to the court with unclean hands.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  And no one may be allowed to profit from his own misdeeds.
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:40.000]  It was required that all of the transfers of ownership be public and they be filed in the court public record.
[01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.000]  They didn't do that.
[01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  So now they have unclean hands. They can't come to the court and say, well, I have this authority, but I didn't file a law in getting it.
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.000]  Feed it.
[01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  So file a suit against them.
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:07.000]  And the purpose of the suit is to discover the true holder.
[01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:13.000]  And in doing so, you don't admit that a note exists.
[01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  You stipulate to nothing.
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  You say, who are you? You told me I need to pay you some money.
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  Well, I never entered into a contract with you. How do I owe you any money?
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  Well, you owe some money. You owe this mortgage over here. What mortgage? I don't know anything about mortgage.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.000]  Prove it.
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  Don't add them a couple of years, though.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  That's okay. They still have to prove that they have authority to collect it.
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  Your suit is that you have been paying them in good faith because you thought they were telling you the truth.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  But now you have reason to believe, based on all this fraud that's been going on all over the country, that you may actually be paying the wrong person.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  You see, when you entered into the agreement, you only had one purpose when you entered into the mortgage.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  And that was that completion of the contract to receive quiet title.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:29.000]  Immediately after you entered into the mortgage, the other side transferred ownership of the title, of the note, but did not give you proper notice.
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  So you don't know who to pay now because you don't know who owns it.
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  So violated the contract.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  We'll finish up on this on the other side.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  This is Randy Kelton.
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  Okay, here's the radio. I'll call in numbers. 512-646-1982. Give us a call. We'll be right there.
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[01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.000]  Okay, the issue is red, so I'll never see the big break.
[01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:44.000]  And Andre, I may sound like a condo to be laboring a point, but this is an extremely important and often very subtle point.
[01:32:44.000 --> 01:33:00.000]  Write this in reverse across your forehead so we can look in the mirror and see it, and it says, never stipulate to anything.
[01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:07.000]  When someone makes a proactive statement, don't admit anything.
[01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:13.000]  They have to prove themselves up first.
[01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:23.000]  When you entered into a contract, a mortgage contract, your purpose was to achieve quiet title once you paid the note off.
[01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  The bank immediately engaged in a set of practices that were on their face legal. There was nothing illegal in their actions.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:42.000]  However, their actions had the effect of breaching the contract.
[01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:51.000]  They created a condition to where you could not possibly achieve the intent of the contract, which was quiet title.
[01:33:51.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  Now, you have reason to believe they've done that because the people claiming to have standing to collect the mortgage are not the people you entered into a contract with.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:15.000]  And when you go look in the court record, you don't see these people registered in the court record as having standing.
[01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  So you claim you have authority to collect, prove it, go to that court record and show me where you have authority to collect these amounts.
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:40.000]  And the only way they're going to get there is in a direct uninterrupted line of ownership from the original holder to them.
[01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  The problem is, this original holder had to have filed in the court record an assignment from themselves to someone else, but they didn't do that.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:01.000]  And now they're gone and they can't do that.
[01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  Sorry, Bubba. You made a boo boo.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:17.000]  That's where you need to go. The first suit that we filed, it just says whoever you are, you may be who you say you are.
[01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  And if you are who you say you are, then indeed, you are not a debt collector and you are not subject to the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  However, because someone who is collecting a debt for the true footy holder of the note in a mortgage transaction is not considered subject to a Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:57.000]  A debt collector is, this guy is not a debt collector. He's the holder of the note. Say, I loan you $500 and you don't pay me back.
[01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  And I go hire some guy with scars on his knuckles to come and collect my money for me. He's not a debt collector.
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:17.000]  He's collecting directly for me. But if I sell the note to him, and then he's collecting for in his own behalf, now he's a debt collector.
[01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:24.000]  Well, if I go to America right now, they claim that they're not a debt collector then and that get in that scenario because they...
[01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:30.000]  Exactly. Okay, hold on. This is exactly... Here's exactly the case. This is what we say.
[01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:39.000]  If, in fact, you are a proper agent for the true holder of the note, you're right.
[01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:51.000]  You are not a debt collector and we will stipulate to our... to withdrawing our claim under Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
[01:36:51.000 --> 01:37:03.000]  But until you prove that you are the proper holder, you're subject to 1692 paragraph F, if a debt collector claims...
[01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  threatens to take an action they either don't intend to take or are unable to take, that's a violation of Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  Now, you have claimed to take an action of foreclosure. Prove you have authority to take that action.
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  If you prove it up, we'll stipulate and then we will amend this complaint dropping you as a litigant and naming the holder for fraudulent for other things.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:41.000]  We don't tell them why, but we'll stipulate to you're not being a debt collector.
[01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  Nobody's got this.
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  This loan, when Taylor Bennett, we went through the mortgage broker, they immediately signed it over to Taylor Bennett Whitaker who funded the loan in the first place.
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:57.000]  And Taylor Bennett Whitaker went out of business. Do you know that story?
[01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  And so now Bank of America claims they own it. And when I send them a qualified written request and I understand everything you said,
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  and I'd have to get into federal court.
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  Okay, what you have to do is discipline yourself not to address any of the conditions of the note.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.000]  Okay.
[01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:25.000]  Because the note is not yet before the court.
[01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  Someone has claimed authority to collect on a note and you say what note?
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  I don't know what you're talking about. You made the claim, prove up your claim.
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  Then I'll say, oh, that note. Oh, you should have told me that's what you were talking about.
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:49.000]  But until they've proved it up, they have no standing.
[01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  And they would have to show the original note?
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.000]  Oh, a lot more than that.
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  It's not enough for them to hold the original note. They could have broken into the bank or broken into the securities house that was holding it and stole it.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  That's what they did. They stole it. They would have been in Whitaker and went out of business.
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  And I've sent them a qualified written request and all the things that they sent me in response to it show that they just had a copy of the closing file from Taylor being in Whitaker.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:27.000]  And they even admitted in some of these papers that they don't own the note, even though they claim to it first, but they admitted later that they don't own the note
[01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  and that it's actually owned by TBW and some numbers after it. Just a series of numbers look like some of that.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:39.000]  Okay, that's the Pooleman's service agreement. That's the Pooleman's service agreement.
[01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  Okay, here's the problem they have now. The subject to collateral estoppel.
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  They are estopped from collecting the note under the admission that they don't own it.
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  They are not the holder.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  And, okay, I take it you have a servicer claiming, are they claiming to collect for the person who is the holder?
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  That's what they're claiming.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.000]  Go ahead.
[01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:18.000]  I think that's what they're claiming. Yeah, based on the information they sent me, they're saying they use the servicer.
[01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:21.000]  Is it filed in the court record?
[01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  No, no. The original broker who gave us the loan, they're the ones there, along with yours.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  But I don't even want to talk about them right now.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:41.000]  Okay, don't look past the four corners of the county registrar's office record.
[01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:53.000]  To check, make sure that Missouri law requires that the sales of security instruments based on a consumer transaction be posted in the public record.
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  That it be a public sale.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  I mean, almost every state's going to have that.
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:09.000]  Stipulation. What they did say is, going back to those statutes that I pointed out, they did say that if the homeowner requests, then it becomes mandatory.
[01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:15.000]  So if you're a homeowner out there in Missouri, you need to request that these people start filing their documents.
[01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  And if they don't have them, I guess they can't file them in, can they?
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  Right. So the problem is, it goes to another issue.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:37.000]  If they have claimed authority to foreclose, and there is no evidence that they have that authority,
[01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  this is going to go to Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  And that requires that if someone becomes a holder, and they're not going to hold the note for more than, I think it's 30 days,
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  then they don't have to register it.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  They can transfer it to somebody else, and that person can register the fact that they hold it.
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  And all of this is so that you know who actually holds your note, you know who you should be paying.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:20.000]  So if they haven't registered in the registrar's office, you don't know who to pay.
[01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:27.000]  With the experience with the banks selling the notes multiple times, and selling them into pools,
[01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:33.000]  and selling pieces of them back and forth, they take a large pool of notes and break it up into little pieces.
[01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:38.000]  You may have 50 individuals with an interest in that note.
[01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:40.000]  You don't know who the holder is.
[01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  You may pay off your note this month, and next month have somebody else come and say,
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:50.000]  hey, you should have been paying me this whole time.
[01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:55.000]  But that's the reason that's supposed to be there, because your only purpose is getting quite tidal.
[01:42:55.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  And now, because of what they did, you don't have any reason to believe that you can get quite tight.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  30 years down the road, and it's unreasonable to expect you to wait 30 years to see if you're paying the right person.
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  Why? I'm starting to...
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:26.000]  Prove it now. Prove it now. Don't come here and say you have the right to collect this money.
[01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  Prove it, and primarily, don't stick an emotion to anything. Okay. I gave you a little trouble down there when it had you down there. I appreciate you, Randy. You have a good day.
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[01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:04.000]  Hey, did you hear? Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012.
[01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:05.000]  It is Ron Paul.
[01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:11.000]  Really? Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute. Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:14.000]  Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:21.000]  Of course you do. Now, listen closely. You need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late.
[01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:29.000]  They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about. They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers, and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:32.000]  Brave New Books? Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:38.000]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency.
[01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.000]  That sounds like that show in the Discovery Channel.
[01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:47.000]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earth Skills School that you can sign up for on the website bravenewbookstore.com.
[01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:48.000]  What are you doing?
[01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:54.000]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to bravenewbookstore.com or down to the bookstore in person. Where's it located?
[01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:56.000]  1904 Guadalupe Street.
[01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.000]  There, it's sent. I even made a smiley face.
[01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:11.000]  Great.
[01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  Alright folks, we are back. This is cool to call off the radio.
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:02.000]  Alright, we are in our last segment here. Right now we have a couple of callers on the board. We're going to see if we can get to them or if we're going to go to Doug.
[01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  And then we'll get to Mary. Ian and Doug, what can we do for you?
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:15.000]  I want to talk to Randy about the contubed court charge that he faces.
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:20.000]  Do what?
[01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  Go ahead.
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  Okay, Randy, our contempt of court charges was judges arbitrarily rules that you don't make him happy, right?
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  No.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  No, he didn't rule that I didn't make him happy.
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  In one place he ruled that I talked over him, then in the other place, I don't know what his purpose of ruling was, but he held me in contempt for asking the leading question.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  Well, when I was a youth or whatever, I was a young man, I had a contempt of court charge in Galveston, Texas, and I said you got three days and it would take an act of Congress to get you out of here before those three days are over, and I was out within like 45 minutes.
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  And I had a, again, in Babe Swartz, it was a state senator from Galveston, Texas, and my father gave him a call and he just, you know, let me go.
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:59.000]  Okay, well, I don't think this judge is going to let me go. He is pretty PO'd at me.
[01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:05.000]  I mean, do you have to go back before him to decide what?
[01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  Yes, sir. Yes, I do.
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  Right. Well, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  Well, I'll have to go before him unless I can get him disqualified, and that's what I'm trying to do.
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  Okay, I've covered this already. Let me, I've got Mary on. I think that's Mary Crennick. That is Mary Crennick. I definitely want to talk to her.
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  If you have anything, do you have anything else, Doug?
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  No, I'm telling you right. I'm glad to see you out of there.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. I don't mean to rush you, but I really want to get Mary on. She's caused a lot, and a lot of times we keep missing her, and I really want to talk to her.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:47.000]  All right.
[01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  Thank you, Doug.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:51.000]  Okay, nice talk.
[01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.000]  Hello, Miss Mary.
[01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:57.000]  Randy, so good to hear your voice.
[01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:00.000]  Oh, yes, it's good to be out of there.
[01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  Thank God. Thank you, everybody, that helps with Randy getting out.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  And I am going to want to talk to you during the week. We want to make this thing political.
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:23.000]  And Mary is the Austin political person. She knows how to make anything political.
[01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  Well, I'd love to help, Randy. I really appreciate all that you've done and that you do, and I'd love to help you.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  Good. We're going to start. One of the things I want to start doing is looking for the law firms who are not aligned with Governor Perry.
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  I think I've found two. One in Dallas, Lang Houston, and a little research at the Supreme Court Law Library, Texas Supreme Court Law Library.
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  Everybody go there and get a free library card.
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:04.000]  The State Law Library, right under the Texas State Supreme Court, downtown by the Capitol. Go get your free card. Use that computer.
[01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:07.000]  Look at their magazines.
[01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  If if I can get a, you know, I need one to pick up this lawsuit against these judges and the state and primarily Perry, if we hold Perry responsible for the mess that is occurring under his directorship, this is on his watch.
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:42.000]  He can whine that he didn't create it and we can claim that this is your watch. You may not have created it, but you didn't fix it either.
[01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  You promoted and enabled it so we get to hold you responsible.
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:51.000]  Randy, you doing okay? You still on okay?
[01:51:51.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  Yeah, I'm feeling okay. Yesterday was pretty rough, but that's because the day before was really, really tense.
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:11.000]  If I got put in jail the day before, it really been a problem, but since I've got 30 days now, I can get my defense put together.
[01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:20.000]  I couldn't have a defense before I went to trial because I had no idea what they were claiming was a violation of the act.
[01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  Oh my God.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  I was at a hearing and I demanded nature and cause and they wouldn't give it.
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  I specifically asked the prosecutor to stipulate that he was charging me under 1702.104 and he would not do it.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  He claimed it was under 388 and all 388 said was if there is no punishment prescribed in these rules, then a violation is a class A misdemeanor.
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  And that's what he was originally charging me under.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:10.000]  It wasn't until I got to trial that I actually knew what I was being charged of and what facts they were claiming.
[01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.000]  This was really, really a mess.
[01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:18.000]  He screwed up just about everything they possibly could.
[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:21.000]  Well, I sure want to keep you out of there.
[01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000]  Oh, me too.
[01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:32.000]  And if we can find a law firm who wants to kick the governor Perry in his teeth, I got the vehicle.
[01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:35.000]  This may actually keep him out of the run.
[01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:39.000]  Get yourself some turn back on.
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  Yes, I need to do that.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:42.000]  I'm working on that.
[01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  I'm shifting to another carrier.
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  The carrier I had was really a mess so I'm going back to Verizon.
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:55.000]  I should have it on and probably have it on tomorrow.
[01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  I left a couple messages on Skype and all that.
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:10.000]  So just give me a call or give me an email and maybe I can drive up there and meet you within your confined area around the Dallas.
[01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  Yes.
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  Okay, good.
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  Call me Monday or Tuesday.
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:18.000]  I definitely want to talk to you.
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.000]  Definitely.
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.000]  Air hug.
[01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:23.000]  Welcome back.
[01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:24.000]  Stay out.
[01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  Okay, I will stay out.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:29.000]  See you.
[01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:32.000]  And this is, we're getting into the show.
[01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  I really want to thank everybody again for all of the help I got.
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  I was absolutely amazed at the response.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  If it wasn't for you guys, I'd still be sitting in that jail cell, not being able to mount any kind of defense.
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  Because of you, I'll be able to go after these guys and we may wind up getting this prosecutor and this judge in prison.
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  That's what I'm hoping.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:12.000]  It never was my intention to ruin somebody's career, but it looks like that may be the only way we're going to get anybody's attention.
[01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  So, and if anybody ever deserved it, these guys absolutely deserved it.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:29.000]  I can't think, I mean, looking through it, I can't find any places where they could have screwed up that they didn't screw up.
[01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  It was just amazing.
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:36.000]  It's like they went out of their way to find everything they could to do wrong.
[01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:48.000]  And as I'm looking around in the county, it appears as though this judge really is a scoundrel and he is not very well liked.
[01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:56.000]  So I suspect as this moves along that I'm going to find more and more allies.
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:56:01.000]  I have some allies already that will be surprising.
[01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:05.000]  They turned out to be allies and these were insiders.
[01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  So I suspect here pretty soon that this worm is going to begin to turn and we can turn this into a tour we can use to actually get something done.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:28.000]  I've been working with Ken Magnuson for a long time and his primary ability is to lobby.
[01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:38.000]  He's very good at lobbying, but we were conflicted on what we needed to do, what would have the most effect.
[01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:43.000]  And we finally settled on the one thing we can do.
[01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  We're looking for what is the simplest thing to get done that will have the greatest long range effect.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  And we've pretty well settled on legislation asking the grand juries to set aside time each month to hear complaints from private citizens.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:13.000]  When I first moved to Texas in Fort Worth, they did that every month.
[01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  The grand jury would meet just so citizens could come in and file complaints.
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:29.000]  And consider you're a policeman, you're out drinking with the guys last night to get pretty wasted, you wake up with a terrible hangover.
[01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:39.000]  You got in late, your wife's not happy with you, she chews you out, you get to work, you look like crap, your boss chews you out, you're miserable.
[01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  Then you pull me over and I'm a usual smartmouth, arrogant self.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:52.000]  And you decide that you want to do one of these attitude arrests, you want to adjust my attitude.
[01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  And then you have to say, well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  How will what I'm about to do play before a grand jury of his peers?
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:14.000]  We actually may say some careers here and we will, this will go through every area of public service.
[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:18.000]  This is how we'll get your attention.
[01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:20.000]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  Thank you all for all of your help.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:26.000]  I wouldn't be here without you.
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:34.000]  This is Randy Calton, Debra Stevens and Craig, we have got radio and Deborah and Eddie will be back Monday.
[01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:43.000]  Debra, sorry she couldn't be here, but she is working on the Oklahoma City bombing movie, but she'll be back with you Monday.
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