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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.600]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:04.600 --> 00:10.500]  Blackberry UK said Thursday it would work with mobile operators to switch off its popular messenger service
[00:10.500 --> 00:14.400]  if authorities ordered the company to do so during civil unrest.
[00:14.400 --> 00:18.700]  Police singled out Blackberry as a key tool in last month's London riots.
[00:18.700 --> 00:24.300]  Blackberry messenger was preferred over Twitter and other social media sites because its messages are encrypted.
[00:24.300 --> 00:32.500]  The US Supreme Court Thursday halted the execution of a black man convicted 16 years ago of a double murder in Texas.
[00:32.500 --> 00:37.900]  The justices stayed the lethal injection, Duane Buck, pending a review of his appeal.
[00:37.900 --> 00:42.100]  He was sentenced to death for gunning down his ex-girlfriend and a man in her apartment.
[00:42.100 --> 00:47.100]  During Buck's trial, a psychologist testified black people were more prone to violence.
[00:47.100 --> 00:57.500]  Eight Amish men were jailed by a Kentucky judge recently after refusing to pay fines for not putting orange safety triangles on their horse-drawn buggies.
[00:57.500 --> 01:00.700]  The men explained their religion, man's bright colors.
[01:00.700 --> 01:10.700]  Tens of thousands of Yemenis rallied in the southern city of Taiz Friday, the day after security forces opened fire on demonstrators, leaving 10 people dead.
[01:10.700 --> 01:19.400]  Huge crowds marched from Tagir Square, a focal point of protests, to the directorate of security to protest against the violence and shelling in the city.
[01:19.400 --> 01:27.900]  On Thursday, security forces opened fire at demonstrators, rallying to demand an end to President Ali Abdullah Saleh's 32-year rule.
[01:27.900 --> 01:35.100]  Taiz is Yemen's second largest city and the flashpoint of the anti-Saleh protests that have gripped the country since February.
[01:35.100 --> 01:42.000]  Saleh has been recovering in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, from injuries sustained in an attack on the presidential palace in June.
[01:42.000 --> 01:46.900]  At least 400 people have been killed in the government crackdown since the demonstrations began.
[01:48.900 --> 02:01.900]  Columns of Libyan fighters sped toward the desert enclave of Bani Walid Friday as forces loyal to the transitional National Council closed in on one of Muammar Gaddafi's last bastions, 110 miles south of Tripoli.
[02:01.900 --> 02:11.100]  Bani Walid has been under siege for two weeks, with hundreds of Gaddafi loyalists dug into its steep valleys and hills, resisting advancing interim government forces.
[02:11.100 --> 02:17.300]  Anti-Gaddafi forces also stormed the Al-Sid ruler's birthplace of Sert Thursday coming under heavy fire.
[02:17.300 --> 02:25.200]  Meanwhile in Tripoli, masses of dark-skinned people, many of them African migrant workers, have been rounded up on suspicion of being pro-Gaddafi mercenaries.
[02:25.200 --> 02:36.700]  Throughout Libya, there have been reports of atrocities committed on both sides. Analysts believe Gaddafi's fall is just the beginning of a new Libya, as numerous forces including Western interests vie for power.
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[03:25.700 --> 03:42.700]  Hi folks, good evening. This is Rule of Law Radio. This is our Friday night for our info marathon. It is Friday, September 16, 2011.
[03:42.700 --> 03:49.700]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig. We are here to see to your legal needs and issues.
[03:49.700 --> 04:02.700]  Right now, Randy has some things that he wants to go over before we get started on taking your calls, but for those of you that are out there listening, when we get to rolling along on that, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[04:02.700 --> 04:09.700]  So if you have any questions, queries, or posers, the night's the night to get them on. All right, Randy, what do you got for us?
[04:09.700 --> 04:23.700]  Okay, I still keep coming up against an issue where people seem not to be given it.
[04:23.700 --> 04:47.700]  We, especially here in legal reform, people do a lot of research on law, and when we find the law that seems to suit our individual issue, and we have the law that nails our issue dead bang, then we take it to the court.
[04:47.700 --> 05:03.700]  Now, we know the courts are corrupt, and we take the court anyway, and the court roves against us, and we feel devastated and defeated and miserable, and we whine and complain, and then we go find more law.
[05:03.700 --> 05:22.700]  Let me shake that out in front of the courts, and they reel against us, and we feel bad about it. You know, I read once about the experiment they did in a college where they were trying to determine how quickly rats would learn a maze compared to humans.
[05:22.700 --> 05:33.700]  So they built two mazes, one rat size and one human size, exactly alike. And at the end of one, they put cheese at the end of the other, and they put a five-dollar bill.
[05:33.700 --> 05:46.700]  And just rats run the maze to get the cheese, and they would get college students to run the maze for the five dollars at the end.
[05:46.700 --> 05:57.700]  Well, the result of the experiment showed that rats and humans learned the maze at approximately the same rate.
[05:57.700 --> 06:09.700]  But the real revelation came later after they shut down the experiment. When they stopped putting cheese at the end of the maze, the rats quit running it.
[06:09.700 --> 06:24.700]  But they had to tear down the human size one because these college students would break in there at night and run the maze to see if somebody had left a five-dollar bill at the end of it.
[06:24.700 --> 06:37.700]  What is it with people? We decide something should work, and then we do it, and it doesn't work. So we do it harder.
[06:37.700 --> 06:43.700]  And we didn't keep doing it until it does work, if it ever does.
[06:43.700 --> 06:53.700]  And in this circumstance, I think it goes to degrees and levels of cognitive dissonance.
[06:53.700 --> 07:00.700]  We seem unable to accept the world we actually live in.
[07:00.700 --> 07:14.700]  We have this ideal of how we feel the world should be, and we try very hard to force the world to be the way we want it to be.
[07:14.700 --> 07:20.700]  Well, I've got bad news for you guys. It is what it is.
[07:20.700 --> 07:27.700]  And the first thing we have to do is figure out how things work and do them that way.
[07:27.700 --> 07:39.700]  And when it comes to law, primary premise at this point in our history, you may not believe this.
[07:39.700 --> 07:45.700]  You may not want to believe it, but the courts are corrupt, guys.
[07:45.700 --> 07:51.700]  The courts are absolutely, completely, and totally corrupt.
[07:51.700 --> 07:58.700]  Well, maybe they're not absolutely, completely, and totally corrupt.
[07:58.700 --> 08:14.700]  But if you act as if they are, you will find that it works very well, that it leads you to more positive and more effective outcomes.
[08:14.700 --> 08:24.700]  It protects you from the kinds of debilitating disappointments that I see people have all the time.
[08:24.700 --> 08:31.700]  They try something, they think it should work, they have the law, they know everything, the laws on their side,
[08:31.700 --> 08:39.700]  and the judge rules against them and they just feel terribly destroyed and defeated.
[08:39.700 --> 08:45.700]  Well, the courts are corrupt. We've got to expect that. Going in the door, we know they're corrupt.
[08:45.700 --> 09:00.700]  So we listen to Dr. Graves and he reminds us that everything we do in the court is about setting the record for appeal.
[09:00.700 --> 09:09.700]  We really need to pay attention to that because we go into the courts trying to win.
[09:09.700 --> 09:19.700]  And that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, but you're in an absolutely corrupt court, especially if you're prosaic.
[09:19.700 --> 09:22.700]  They hate prosaics.
[09:22.700 --> 09:31.700]  So you have to expect to be rude against you out of hand at every turn and you just keep setting the record for appeal.
[09:31.700 --> 09:40.700]  When you're setting the record for appeal and judge rules against you, okay, okay, we got it set for appeal. We won.
[09:40.700 --> 09:44.700]  We get to win along as we go along.
[09:44.700 --> 09:53.700]  And a lot of this is we need to understand the people that we're dealing with.
[09:53.700 --> 10:00.700]  We have police officers. They go out and arrest people all day, every day.
[10:00.700 --> 10:09.700]  And most of the people they arrest, 90% of them, account for about 10% of the population.
[10:09.700 --> 10:15.700]  They keep arresting these same guys over and over because they're always in trouble.
[10:15.700 --> 10:29.700]  And if you've ever been in jail, which I have a time or two, not for any extended period, but enough that in observing the people I was seeing in the jail,
[10:29.700 --> 10:45.700]  I was rather surprised at what spent seven days in jail. And that was a district attorney in the county I live in that was, they were trying to get me put in jail because they weren't happy with me,
[10:45.700 --> 10:52.700]  but couldn't get done. So they set a court date and change it. This is a real common practice with the courts.
[10:52.700 --> 11:05.700]  And they didn't tell you, now that way they can throw you in jail. And had a couple of guys that were shipped in from another jail and they were waiting here to be transferred somewhere else.
[11:05.700 --> 11:17.700]  And all they could talk about was what they were going to have for dinner and the caper they were going to pull when they got out of jail.
[11:17.700 --> 11:26.700]  And in paying attention to these people, they didn't use language the way that we use language.
[11:26.700 --> 11:39.700]  People in civil society, we make sounds with our faces and we expect other people to perceive meaning from those sounds.
[11:39.700 --> 11:49.700]  And we intend meaning from the sounds that we make. These guys, they don't use language that way.
[11:49.700 --> 11:57.700]  Truth, honor, dignity, civility, they don't understand any of that. They don't live in that world.
[11:57.700 --> 12:09.700]  They use language in order to achieve the outcome they want to achieve, whether what they say is true or not, none of that.
[12:09.700 --> 12:15.700]  That doesn't make any difference to them. They just may use language. The police deal with these people all the time.
[12:15.700 --> 12:24.700]  So when these people start running their routine on them, the police eventually just quit paying attention to it.
[12:24.700 --> 12:34.700]  So when a policeman arrests one of the 10% that almost never have an interaction with the police,
[12:34.700 --> 12:49.700]  and these people use language for purpose with meaning, with honor, dignity, and civility, how's the policeman to know?
[12:49.700 --> 12:57.700]  And from what I've seen, they're being trained not to make those distinctions,
[12:57.700 --> 13:09.700]  but to treat everyone as if they are potentially the most horrible, narcissistic sociopath that the policeman ever come across.
[13:09.700 --> 13:22.700]  And that's understandable, because that's the one that will sneak up on you, and you only get to miss one of those, and you don't get any more chances.
[13:22.700 --> 13:33.700]  It's kind of like when I say, the courts are absolutely corrupt. Well, maybe they're not, but it behooves you to treat them as if they are.
[13:33.700 --> 13:40.700]  The police have come to the position to where everybody's potentially a cold-blooded murderer.
[13:40.700 --> 13:54.700]  Well, maybe they're not, but if I act as if they are, then I'll protect myself, and when the real one comes along, I will wind up dead.
[13:54.700 --> 14:03.700]  The police live on adrenaline. That's why I say to people, don't argue with the police out there on the street.
[14:03.700 --> 14:09.700]  They get addicted to adrenaline. I can't imagine cocaine being much worse than adrenaline.
[14:09.700 --> 14:13.700]  Adrenaline really makes you crazy. I came back from Vietnam addicted to adrenaline.
[14:13.700 --> 14:28.700]  It took me a long time to get over it, and I don't know if I am yet. I still have this need to press the edge of the envelope to see how far I can push it.
[14:28.700 --> 14:40.700]  And I see police doing the same thing, so the combination makes them dangerously unstable, along with the fact that we have no effective checks and balances.
[14:40.700 --> 14:46.700]  So we don't argue with the police on the street. I understand these guys are a little bit crazy. The position they're in makes them crazy.
[14:46.700 --> 15:03.700]  And then we go to the jailers. They're sort of in the same position. They're not at much serious threat, but they deal with these people all the time that are criminals, just habitual criminals.
[15:03.700 --> 15:16.700]  And they get callous to people. So they're not as open and understanding and civil as we expect people to be in normal relationships.
[15:16.700 --> 15:22.700]  So we go to, we wind up in jail. These people treat us like we're common criminals. Well, we shouldn't be offended by that.
[15:22.700 --> 15:28.700]  I understand they deal with it. That's how it's always been. It's not going to go away.
[15:28.700 --> 15:37.700]  But then we get to the magistrates. They come into court and they ask this person how they're clean.
[15:37.700 --> 15:43.700]  Oh, just that dirty rotten cop. He did this. He did that. He did the other.
[15:43.700 --> 15:52.700]  And I am innocent as the driven snow. They hear that over and over and over.
[15:52.700 --> 16:05.700]  They get callous. They get hardened. They hear the same stories over and over and over and 90% of them are garbage.
[16:05.700 --> 16:12.700]  The 10% that are not, how do they tell? So they treat them all as garbage.
[16:12.700 --> 16:31.700]  That's what we should expect. And when we come back from break, we'll go into prosecuting attorney and talk about where he lives, what pressures are on him, your attorney, what he has to deal with every day in his professional life,
[16:31.700 --> 16:39.700]  and the judges, and then what we can do and how we can conduct ourselves to get better outcomes.
[16:39.700 --> 16:48.700]  This is Randy Kelly from Denver State of Craig. We live on radio. Our call in number 512-646-1984.
[16:48.700 --> 16:55.700]  This is our four hour info marathon. So call in and get in line. We'll take your calls.
[16:55.700 --> 16:59.700]  I'll probably do one or two more sessions on this.
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[19:19.700 --> 19:34.700]  Okay, we're back. We're going to help with Stephen J. Craig, the leader of our radio, and I'm going to talk about prosecuted attorneys.
[19:34.700 --> 19:49.700]  If you read the Code of Criminal Procedure under Duties of Officers Chapter 2, the very first statute under Duties of Officers goes to prosecuting attorneys and it says,
[19:49.700 --> 20:08.700]  it shall be the primary duty of the prosecuting attorney, not to secure conviction, but to ensure that justice is served. He shall not seek good evidence or witnesses that may show the innocence of the accused or mitigate the guilt of the accused.
[20:08.700 --> 20:23.700]  Well, that's nice high-minded rhetoric, but in the real world we live in, prosecutors are not really concerned about who's guilty and who's innocent.
[20:23.700 --> 20:37.700]  Those are not the pressures that guide his daily routine. His daily routine is primarily dictated by a case load.
[20:37.700 --> 20:55.700]  The police are being encouraged to write more tickets to make more arrests. It makes more money for the state. The large big business, jails have become big business.
[20:55.700 --> 21:06.700]  Bush and Cheney were heavily invested in these systems and they pushed it and encouraged police to increase the jail load so they could build more prisons.
[21:06.700 --> 21:16.700]  And they did build more prisons. What's had all these prisons built? Well, they started running out of people to put in them so they had to make more arrests to fill up their prisons.
[21:16.700 --> 21:35.700]  It is a self-feeding cycle. That's what we have. That is the reality. And this puts a lot of load on the prosecutor. The prosecutor is more concerned about clearing his calendar than with whether you're guilty or innocent.
[21:35.700 --> 21:56.700]  He's more concerned with making a deal than anything else. And over time they've honed their practices and procedures to pretty well to perfection because they get a 99.6 conviction rate.
[21:56.700 --> 22:15.700]  Everybody takes the deal. And everybody takes the deal because the prosecutors, the legislature in their wisdom directed prosecutors to provide legal advice to the police in lower courts.
[22:15.700 --> 22:27.700]  They said we have these prosecutors already in public employ. We might as well use them to give legal advice to our police in lower courts.
[22:27.700 --> 22:49.700]  Bad move. Because would you expect a prosecutor who's got a case load he can barely keep up with to advise the police in lower courts to take actions that would increase the difficulty of his position?
[22:49.700 --> 22:59.700]  It is in the nature of the human animal to do what he feels is in his own best interest.
[22:59.700 --> 23:11.700]  While at the same time using his rational mind to do what it does best, he rationalizes away the consequences.
[23:11.700 --> 23:28.700]  People seldom operate from a consistent set of beliefs. We operate from a number of different beliefs sets tailored individually to individual circumstances.
[23:28.700 --> 23:41.700]  And when the prosecutor is thinking in terms of clearing his docket and keeping up with his case load, he's not thinking in terms of how can I be a good and honest prosecutor.
[23:41.700 --> 23:50.700]  That just kind of gets lost. I doubt that when prosecutors sit around and talk about what they do, I doubt that they sit around and talk about how good and honest they are.
[23:50.700 --> 24:01.700]  They sit around and talk about their case loads and how to clear them. That is their primary motivation no matter how well-intended their motives are.
[24:01.700 --> 24:08.700]  That's the reality they have to deal with in your attorney.
[24:08.700 --> 24:28.700]  I hope that by this time that there's no one out there that still carries this notion that your attorney is going to be Perry Mason and get out there and vigorously adjudicate your rights no matter what the consequences.
[24:28.700 --> 24:42.700]  He is not going to do that. If he did that, he would be out of his professional mind because he would be out of business in a very short time.
[24:42.700 --> 24:58.700]  The courts, the prosecutors, they need to clear their dockets and the courts are not going to be happy with attorneys who come in there and vigorously adjudicate every one of your rights.
[24:58.700 --> 25:06.700]  They're not going to like that one little bit because the judge would rather be out playing golf even if he's an honest judge.
[25:06.700 --> 25:18.700]  He really gets tired of hearing this same thing over and over and over from people who've been arrested and brought into the court.
[25:18.700 --> 25:29.700]  Same story, same excuses, same pitiful expressions, over and over and over. After a while you get hardened to that.
[25:29.700 --> 25:42.700]  And the judges are put in a position where they can act against these attorneys with absolute impunity.
[25:42.700 --> 25:52.700]  And I think we all know that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely whether you want it to or not.
[25:52.700 --> 26:04.700]  It is in the human nature. This is what your attorney has to deal with every day with one client after another.
[26:04.700 --> 26:25.700]  If he goes in and fights like crazy for one individual's rights and then he brings in another client where he believes the client is innocent but the evidence is iffy.
[26:25.700 --> 26:36.700]  So it goes to whether or not the judge believes him. It goes to the discretion of the judge what he rules.
[26:36.700 --> 26:42.700]  If the judge is upset at your attorney, he'll root against you to get back at his attorney.
[26:42.700 --> 26:51.700]  So the attorney can't afford to come in there and risk getting the judge upset at him to adjudicate every one of your rights.
[26:51.700 --> 26:56.700]  That's where everybody else comes along. So what's he supposed to do?
[26:56.700 --> 27:01.700]  And the judge wants to in Jerky's bar cart, put him out of business.
[27:01.700 --> 27:12.700]  I doubt that there's a single attorney that went to college six years so that he could get out in his professional career and spend the rest of his career kissing some arrogant judges behind.
[27:12.700 --> 27:17.700]  But that is the reality we find ourselves in.
[27:17.700 --> 27:27.700]  This is the reality that your attorney has to deal with every day with every client, not just you.
[27:27.700 --> 27:46.700]  And we've already talked about judges. Even if the judge wants to be a good fair and honest judge, it gets hard hearing the same stories over and over and listening to those stories and trying to evaluate whether or not all of these details are true and correct.
[27:46.700 --> 27:51.700]  When he hears the same thing over and over, he gets tired of hearing it.
[27:51.700 --> 27:54.700]  He just wants his thing done with.
[27:54.700 --> 28:05.700]  So everybody has, especially in the criminal side, is falling into the deal. It works out well for everybody.
[28:05.700 --> 28:14.700]  At least everybody who's there every day, day in, day out, year in, year out, all this works well for all of them.
[28:14.700 --> 28:25.700]  Even your attorney, he gets his fee, he doesn't have to work hard, prosecutor gets his docket cleared, and the judge doesn't have to hear all these cases.
[28:25.700 --> 28:34.700]  He only has to hear whatever wants to go out, like about four tenths of a percent of the cases he has to hear.
[28:34.700 --> 28:37.700]  So it works well for everybody except us.
[28:37.700 --> 28:47.700]  And when I get back, I'll talk about why the problem is not the police or the prosecutors or our attorneys or the judges.
[28:47.700 --> 28:54.700]  The problem is you and I. We're not holding our minds right.
[28:54.700 --> 28:58.700]  When we change our mind, we'll change the system.
[28:58.700 --> 29:08.700]  This system didn't get in this mess because we did our jobs. It got in this mess because we didn't do our jobs.
[29:08.700 --> 29:16.700]  It didn't get in this mess because all the police and all the prosecutors and all the attorneys and all the judges were corrupt human beings.
[29:16.700 --> 29:20.700]  They were just ordinary people.
[29:20.700 --> 29:28.700]  We put them in positions of power. We had a duty to control them and protect them from their own excesses.
[29:28.700 --> 29:30.700]  And we didn't perform that duty.
[29:30.700 --> 29:32.700]  Now we have this mess when we come back.
[29:32.700 --> 29:39.700]  I'll not only talk about how to perform this duty, but I have a great time doing it.
[29:39.700 --> 29:44.700]  This is Randy Kelsen, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig with the radio.
[29:44.700 --> 29:49.700]  Call it number 512-646-1984.
[29:49.700 --> 29:55.700]  We'll start taking your calls probably at the end of the next segment.
[29:55.700 --> 29:59.700]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[31:28.700 --> 31:34.700]  but the FBI easily tracked the crime to an IP address assigned to a McDonald's in Smyrna, Georgia.
[31:34.700 --> 31:42.700]  When they got a hold of their purchase records, they found a $5 meal charged to Cornish's Visa card just five minutes before the break-in.
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[31:46.700 --> 31:47.700]  The moral of the story?
[31:47.700 --> 31:51.700]  Be an honest employee, of course, and buy your burgers with cash.
[31:51.700 --> 31:53.700]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[31:53.700 --> 31:56.700]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[31:56.700 --> 31:58.700]  Yeah, I got a warrant.
[31:58.700 --> 32:01.700]  And I'm going to solve them.
[32:01.700 --> 32:03.700]  To the head of government them.
[32:03.700 --> 32:05.700]  Prosecute them.
[32:05.700 --> 32:07.700]  Okay.
[32:07.700 --> 32:09.700]  Oh, sir.
[32:09.700 --> 32:11.700]  Okay, we're back.
[32:11.700 --> 32:13.700]  Randy Caldwell, James Hughes, and Craig.
[32:13.700 --> 32:15.700]  Ruth LaLidio.
[32:15.700 --> 32:17.700]  I know I conned you.
[32:17.700 --> 32:19.700]  I know I conned you.
[32:19.700 --> 32:21.700]  I know I conned you.
[32:21.700 --> 32:26.700]  And I'm John Hughes, and Craig, Ruth LaLidio.
[32:26.700 --> 32:34.700]  I know I kind of went around the block getting to this point, but this is an important point.
[32:34.700 --> 32:42.700]  You will not win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[32:42.700 --> 32:48.700]  That may not be right, but that's how it is in the world we live in.
[32:48.700 --> 32:56.260]  is it that way now? It has always been that way. This is not some grand conspiracy. This
[32:56.260 --> 33:06.020]  is just ordinary, ordinary, I'm sorry, ordinary, everyday, minimal corruption. Now, there may
[33:06.020 --> 33:11.980]  be some grand conspiracies out there. But this problem with the courts is not one of
[33:11.980 --> 33:18.260]  them. This problem with the courts just goes to the pressures that are on these officials
[33:18.260 --> 33:25.820]  every day. And it goes to the fact that we haven't used the tools we have available to
[33:25.820 --> 33:39.180]  us to protect our officials from their own excesses. And this all goes to politics, Ken's
[33:39.180 --> 33:45.820]  first rule, everything is political. You won't win the law in your case because you have
[33:45.820 --> 33:51.860]  the law and the facts on your side, although that's very helpful and you'll meet those.
[33:51.860 --> 33:59.140]  That's not enough. You're going to have to have politics on your side. And understanding
[33:59.140 --> 34:10.220]  the politics of the individual is really important. Policemen think of us, of us all as potential
[34:10.220 --> 34:16.980]  perps. They got the perps and the ones who are going to be the perps. So they group us
[34:16.980 --> 34:25.420]  all in the same basket. Every once in a while, the policeman needs to get hammered. We don't
[34:25.420 --> 34:35.060]  have to get him out of his office, but we need to remind him who we are. We need to establish
[34:35.060 --> 34:42.220]  a check to the balance of his personal passions. When he comes to work in a bad mood, he's
[34:42.220 --> 34:48.340]  got a headache, had a fight with a wife before he left, and he pulls you over, you're in
[34:48.340 --> 34:55.980]  a bad mood, you say something he doesn't like. Right now, the police feel absolutely at liberty
[34:55.980 --> 35:04.980]  to take out their personal passions on you because they have no fear of you. We need
[35:04.980 --> 35:15.820]  to instill fear in them and not fear that you'll shoot them or do something dangerous,
[35:15.820 --> 35:23.500]  physically dangerous, but that when he gets done with you, you're going to go somewhere
[35:23.500 --> 35:31.460]  else and give him more grief than he can deal with. When the police have to consider that
[35:31.460 --> 35:40.820]  possibility, they're going to be far more careful. Prosecutors and attorneys are the
[35:40.820 --> 35:49.700]  same way. That's why I suggest bar grievances, not because I want to cause my attorney or
[35:49.700 --> 35:56.460]  the prosecuting attorney any particular grief, but every once in a while, they need a good
[35:56.460 --> 36:03.700]  swift kick in the pants so that they don't forget who they are, who we are, and where
[36:03.700 --> 36:16.540]  their loyalties lie. And above all, the judges. So when you get into a legal situation, whether
[36:16.540 --> 36:22.940]  it's criminal or civil, it's not enough to look at the law. We need to consider what
[36:22.940 --> 36:27.740]  we're dealing with here. It's not enough to sort out all the law and the facts and get
[36:27.740 --> 36:34.060]  all our emotions in place and somehow expect that we're going to win this case. We have
[36:34.060 --> 36:43.940]  to find a way to pull the politics in behind us, a way to put pressure on these officials
[36:43.940 --> 36:51.420]  so that we become the squeakiest wheel in the place, so that the pressures of their
[36:51.420 --> 37:03.340]  everyday profession become less onerous than the pressures we put on them. And primarily
[37:03.340 --> 37:11.820]  the way that I like to do this is when someone does something that I can show is inappropriate,
[37:11.820 --> 37:20.420]  then I want to go find somebody else and engage somebody else to beat them up for me or to
[37:20.420 --> 37:26.940]  go to them and ask them questions they do not want to have to answer. I want them pulled
[37:26.940 --> 37:33.300]  on the carpet. I don't necessarily want a policeman who's mistreated me fired. I want
[37:33.300 --> 37:39.940]  him to become a better policeman. And if he has to explain himself to his boss and his
[37:39.940 --> 37:46.580]  boss, his boss and his boss, his boss, his boss, because they're all upset at it, it's
[37:46.580 --> 37:55.860]  going to adjust his behavior. And these guys tend to protect one another. And I know a
[37:55.860 --> 38:00.100]  lot of people, they think that, you know, they've heard of this thin blue line where
[38:00.100 --> 38:06.780]  the police, if you do something to one policeman, the rest of them will come after you. And
[38:06.780 --> 38:19.820]  that's sort of true. However, if you do something to them with someone much higher than them,
[38:19.820 --> 38:30.380]  what that does is makes them afraid of losing their position. And then the last thing they
[38:30.380 --> 38:35.820]  want is that person much higher than them coming back after them. That's why I tell
[38:35.820 --> 38:42.340]  this story about when you go into a jurisdiction, the first thing you want to do is work your
[38:42.340 --> 38:49.460]  way up to the highest level judge there and kick him right in the seat of his pants. That
[38:49.460 --> 38:55.780]  way, the first time a policeman, after you've kicked that judge, first time a policeman or
[38:55.780 --> 39:05.500]  a bailiff says something to you that seems inappropriate. You don't accuse the bailiff.
[39:05.500 --> 39:11.660]  You accuse this judge of doing it, of sending the bailiff to do it. That's when all of
[39:11.660 --> 39:19.260]  your problems with retaliation will stop immediately because politics comes tumbling down from
[39:19.260 --> 39:26.820]  high above them. We file bar grievances against attorneys because that goes to politics and
[39:26.820 --> 39:34.740]  the politics of money. We increase their cost to doing business and if we get their insurance
[39:34.740 --> 39:40.140]  canceled, no, they really have a problem. We file bar grievances against judges because
[39:40.140 --> 39:47.980]  we want the judges looking around at who can I beat up for this? Well, they can't beat
[39:47.980 --> 39:57.020]  us up. Now, if we were attorneys, that's a whole different story, but we're not a prosa.
[39:57.020 --> 40:02.780]  And we don't say that the judge, the courts will move against you if you're prosa. Out
[40:02.780 --> 40:08.260]  of hand at every turn, well, maybe they won't, but we need to conduct ourselves as if they
[40:08.260 --> 40:15.420]  will. So when they start ruling against us, we hammer them. And they are not used to being
[40:15.420 --> 40:23.900]  hammered. They're used to attorneys, both prosecutors and defense counsel, essentially
[40:23.900 --> 40:30.900]  kissing their behinds, cowtowing to them and bowing to their every whim. They're not used
[40:30.900 --> 40:36.820]  to coming in, someone coming in there and taking them to task. You know, I tell about
[40:36.820 --> 40:42.460]  going into courts and bushwhacking judges in their own courtroom and dropping criminal
[40:42.460 --> 40:51.620]  complaints on them. I have yet to have a judge know what to do with that. I have had one
[40:51.620 --> 41:00.460]  prosecuting attorney know what to do. He handled himself very well. He handled me very well.
[41:00.460 --> 41:05.980]  He took my complaints, gave them to the grand jury and then went in and told the grand jury
[41:05.980 --> 41:12.620]  not to indict and they didn't indict. Guy was smart. He wasn't afraid of me. He knew
[41:12.620 --> 41:19.460]  how to handle me, but he was older guy. He'd been around the block a few times and he probably
[41:19.460 --> 41:24.660]  had other guys like me come in and kick him in his pants. So he didn't want to go this
[41:24.660 --> 41:31.580]  route anymore. And I'm wondering about we had a caller a couple weeks ago that the prosecuting
[41:31.580 --> 41:36.660]  attorney, when the caller wanted to file criminal charges against police officers and wanted
[41:36.660 --> 41:40.140]  the attorney to give it to the prosecutor, to give it to the grand jury, just stepped
[41:40.140 --> 41:47.860]  aside and take him. Good chance he's been there. He doesn't want to go there again.
[41:47.860 --> 41:52.540]  When he got in the fight the first time, he probably fought like a tiger and never gave
[41:52.540 --> 42:00.220]  in. But when the fight came back again, he said, man, I've had it with that. I do not
[42:00.220 --> 42:07.860]  want to do that again. This is how we control our public officials. This is how we'll get
[42:07.860 --> 42:18.700]  our system back and get justice. And in order for us to do that, we have to accept that
[42:18.700 --> 42:26.980]  the system is very badly flawed, that we are not protected. The only protection we're going
[42:26.980 --> 42:34.260]  to have is the one we create for ourselves. That's cognitive dissonance is a real problem
[42:34.260 --> 42:45.100]  and it comes in levels and phases. At the point I'm at, with all my experience, I still
[42:45.100 --> 42:58.100]  have levels of cognitive dissonance. Areas of things that when the courts or the officials
[42:58.100 --> 43:06.580]  do them, I still find it hard to accept that I could be dishonorable. But we've got to
[43:06.580 --> 43:10.820]  get over that. Now that's my story and I'm sticking to it. When we come back, we're going
[43:10.820 --> 43:15.740]  to start taking calls. We had Carlos and he dropped off. Carlos, if you'll call back in,
[43:15.740 --> 43:23.620]  we will take your call when we get back on the other side. But in the meantime, I'm hoping
[43:23.620 --> 43:30.340]  we can all get a more professional understanding of how to deal with these people. Once we
[43:30.340 --> 43:38.020]  understand how the politics works, where the pressures are, it becomes relatively easy
[43:38.020 --> 43:45.620]  to manipulate them to our advantage. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[43:45.620 --> 43:54.740]  Rue La Radio. Our call in number is 512-646-1984. Call in, get in line, we'll be taking your
[43:54.740 --> 44:04.060]  calls when we come back on the other side. The Oakland City bombing, top 10 reasons to
[44:04.060 --> 44:10.020]  question the official story. Reason number two, why was the ATF AWOL? Paramedic Tiffany
[44:10.020 --> 44:14.820]  Bible, who's on the scene within five minutes, has stated in an effort, David, that agents
[44:14.820 --> 44:18.900]  of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms told her that they were not in their office
[44:18.900 --> 44:24.020]  that morning. EMT Catherine Mallet also overheard one agent say to another, quote, is that
[44:24.020 --> 44:29.100]  why we got the page to not come in today, end quote. Bruce Shaw's interview on KSLaure
[44:29.100 --> 44:35.300]  TV was also told by ATF agents that they had been paid to not come into work. The ATF initially
[44:35.300 --> 44:39.860]  denied these claims and now variously claim that one of their agents was in a free falling
[44:39.860 --> 44:43.900]  elevator which has been disproven, or that they'd been in an all night stick out, or
[44:43.900 --> 44:48.220]  that they'd been in a golf tournament. As they try to sort out their lives, all we want
[44:48.220 --> 44:53.300]  to know is, did the ATF receive a warning, and if so, why did they not pass it on to
[44:53.300 --> 45:00.300]  others and memorials? For more information, go to okcfoundandtruth.com.
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[46:23.300 --> 46:40.420]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. This is our Friday night four
[46:40.420 --> 46:46.940]  hour info marathon. We are going to start taking your calls now. We did have William
[46:46.940 --> 46:50.220]  up on the board, but it looks like William dropped off there just as we were getting
[46:50.220 --> 46:55.860]  ready to take this call. Now folks, I would like to take this opportunity while we're
[46:55.860 --> 47:01.220]  waiting on you to get on the board real quick, to once again ask you that if you would please,
[47:01.220 --> 47:06.780]  please, please donate whatever you can to help support us in getting this federal lawsuit
[47:06.780 --> 47:13.740]  off the ground regarding the transportation issues. I have got the information I need
[47:13.740 --> 47:19.380]  and the assistance that I needed to get this suit going, so please support us in being
[47:19.380 --> 47:24.100]  able to fund it through the process. Please go to the Rule of Law website. You can donate
[47:24.100 --> 47:29.220]  either directly to me, to the show and ear market for that, or whatever you need to do,
[47:29.220 --> 47:33.780]  or if you wish you can send me a postal money order directly and if you'll send me an email
[47:33.780 --> 47:39.140]  offline, I'll be more than happy to send you the address you can mail it to, but please
[47:39.140 --> 47:46.220]  make sure it is a U.S. Post Office money order, okay? But again, this is the federal lawsuit
[47:46.220 --> 47:52.740]  where we're going to be taking on the issue of transportation versus right to travel,
[47:52.740 --> 47:56.620]  and hopefully we'll be able to get this in, get this into the federal courts and argued
[47:56.620 --> 48:04.060]  in a current modern court form that will finally set the stage to get this driver's licensing
[48:04.060 --> 48:09.420]  illegal taxation scheme off the backs of the people. So if you don't know what that's
[48:09.420 --> 48:14.100]  about, then please tune into the Monday Night Show where you can listen to me talk about
[48:14.100 --> 48:18.460]  traffic and what it is and what it isn't, what we've been led to believe versus what
[48:18.460 --> 48:23.580]  is actually true, and you'll learn a lot more that way. And if you're in the Austin area,
[48:23.580 --> 48:29.580]  please come to the Sunday seminars from 2 to 5 at Brave New Books. Not only do I talk
[48:29.580 --> 48:35.740]  about the traffic laws, but I teach people the issues on how to fight in court, the procedures
[48:35.740 --> 48:41.340]  for fighting in court, the proper paperwork to use in court, and so on and so forth.
[48:41.340 --> 48:46.820]  The first class to attend is free, and every subsequent class is $20. So it's not going
[48:46.820 --> 48:51.580]  to cost you an arm and a leg, and I guarantee you it will be a useful legal education for
[48:51.580 --> 48:58.180]  you. Now, that being said, Randy, did you have anything else you wanted to cover or
[48:58.180 --> 49:02.340]  waiting on callers? Well, yeah, actually I have a lot, and I'm
[49:02.340 --> 49:11.620]  afraid I sometimes feel like I go on a little too much, but I am pushing more about the
[49:11.620 --> 49:22.740]  politics of what we're getting into. One of the things is, a while back, I had someone
[49:22.740 --> 49:36.500]  come to me with a brief on Title 18. He conclusively proved with letters from the clerks of the
[49:36.500 --> 49:47.860]  House and Senate that Title 18, the federal criminal code, was never, the Title 18 as
[49:47.860 --> 50:04.220]  currently enforced, was never passed by the legislature, and by the one version, yes,
[50:04.220 --> 50:10.420]  one version, okay, we call it whichever you want to, it doesn't make a difference. The
[50:10.420 --> 50:18.420]  legislature passed one, I mean, the House of Representatives passed one version. The
[50:18.420 --> 50:24.740]  next year, the Senate passed a different version, and once the Senate passed, they took the
[50:24.740 --> 50:30.540]  House's version and changed it, passed it, and sent it back to the House, but the House
[50:30.540 --> 50:38.180]  never voted on it. And then after the 1948 legislature closed, signed I, someone took
[50:38.180 --> 50:43.980]  that to the president and he signed it into law. Well, he proved that it occurred this
[50:43.980 --> 50:50.460]  way, therefore it was not law. And I read the brief and I said, well, that's really
[50:50.460 --> 51:02.260]  nice, Tony, but one problem, never back a bulldog in a corner unless you give him a way out.
[51:02.260 --> 51:11.660]  He had the law and the facts absolutely conclusively on his side. So what do you think the court
[51:11.660 --> 51:19.460]  did? They sanctioned his attorney and pulled his license to practice in the federal court
[51:19.460 --> 51:28.820]  for a year. You always got to give him a way out if you've got him absolutely dead banked
[51:28.820 --> 51:39.660]  on a really major issue. Like Title 18, did he really think he would get the courts to
[51:39.660 --> 51:48.140]  render a ruling that would strike down all the criminal laws? Not in this life. Now had
[51:48.140 --> 51:55.780]  he put that argument in there along with a number of other arguments, arguments that
[51:55.780 --> 52:09.780]  were easy to use as a bone to throw him. And where they could say, oh my, look at this.
[52:09.780 --> 52:16.180]  Our officers, when they arrested this poor slob, didn't take him directly to the nearest
[52:16.180 --> 52:21.500]  magistrate the way they were supposed to. Now, I don't buy that Title 18 argument garbage
[52:21.500 --> 52:28.660]  that you put in this court, but this was a due process violation, so we have to dismiss.
[52:28.660 --> 52:35.020]  Give him a way out. Give him a way out to save face. They're going to fight you like
[52:35.020 --> 52:44.620]  a tiger. We put together a program to help people with foreclosure. And it's all about
[52:44.620 --> 52:52.340]  setting them up for the deal. Now, when I researched the foreclosure issue, I was astonished
[52:52.340 --> 53:03.300]  at the level of fraud that I found. This fraud went to hubris. It was absolutely a malignant
[53:03.300 --> 53:16.180]  calculus bread of extreme arrogance. It seemed as though somebody sat down and said, what
[53:16.180 --> 53:22.300]  are the stupidest things we can do? And then they said about doing every one of them. So
[53:22.300 --> 53:29.540]  we have all of the law and the facts we need on our side, but we're not winning. It's because
[53:29.540 --> 53:39.620]  we haven't brought the politics in. So now we go in and say, who are you? Where do you
[53:39.620 --> 53:45.460]  have standing? We go after the attorney to get him to show standing. When you sue the
[53:45.460 --> 53:54.420]  law firm, the politics are that when the law firm answers your suit, that's not billable
[53:54.420 --> 54:01.140]  hours. These attorneys are jumping into the fray and all of these attorneys will represent
[54:01.140 --> 54:08.740]  the banks because that's where the money is. Well, let's see if we can't make it a little
[54:08.740 --> 54:15.300]  bit less profitable. We sue the attorney and when he gets sued against him, his malpractice
[54:15.300 --> 54:23.500]  insurance is going through the roof. And then when he files a response to the suit that
[54:23.500 --> 54:31.820]  doesn't include proof of agency, motion to strike, motion for sanctions for filing a
[54:31.820 --> 54:42.420]  frivolous pleading and bar grievance. We start stacking up the politics so that they've
[54:42.420 --> 54:50.340]  got room to come to us and make a deal. And in our suit, we've said, if you prove a vacancy,
[54:50.340 --> 54:58.700]  we will stipulate. And that's telling them you can come to us and make a deal. If you,
[54:58.700 --> 55:06.220]  as the law firm, come to us and say, let's make a deal, I'll stipulate that we may have
[55:06.220 --> 55:15.020]  some faulty paperwork. We will withdraw our foreclosure action if you will drop the suit
[55:15.020 --> 55:21.580]  against us. And this is sure. No problem. And then we wait for the next turn to come
[55:21.580 --> 55:27.100]  at us. We do the same thing to him. And when one of them doesn't, then they push it through
[55:27.100 --> 55:32.260]  the court and the court rules in their favor, which we expect them to do. Of course, you're
[55:32.260 --> 55:38.780]  totally corrupt. They're always going to rule against us out of hand at every turn. Okay.
[55:38.780 --> 55:44.860]  And the court rules against us and says, oh, yeah, this, this attorney has agency to collect
[55:44.860 --> 55:52.100]  this amount for the, for the lender. Then we go back and we say, oh, so you're the dirty
[55:52.100 --> 55:56.220]  rotten scoundrel that we've been looking for who's been trying to collect all these fraudulent
[55:56.220 --> 56:04.260]  fees. And then we increase the claim against him substantially and sue the attorney again.
[56:04.260 --> 56:11.420]  And in the meantime, this buys us time, which is the main thing we want. The longer it is,
[56:11.420 --> 56:15.780]  hangs in the court, the more the politics is turning against the banker and the more
[56:15.780 --> 56:20.180]  likely we're going to bring them to the table. And then after that was been through the court,
[56:20.180 --> 56:27.820]  then we come back and we sue everybody. So first we want to make it hard for the attorneys
[56:27.820 --> 56:33.460]  to pick up these cases. We want to make it so expensive so that when they get one of
[56:33.460 --> 56:40.100]  these suits against them, they go to the bank and say, I'm out of here. You come to me and
[56:40.100 --> 56:47.220]  you prove up absolutely that you are the holder of the note or I am out of here. You go get
[56:47.220 --> 56:55.180]  somebody else to go after these guys. So it's all about politics, all about creating politics.
[56:55.180 --> 57:00.300]  Anytime you go after them, give them a way out. If you sue them, ask for a blood for
[57:00.300 --> 57:05.100]  a foreclosure. When you sue them, ask for a loan modification. Even if you just had one,
[57:05.100 --> 57:14.500]  you want another one because what that does is gives you a way to force them to the table to
[57:14.500 --> 57:20.780]  negotiate. And since they're forced to come to the table and negotiate, they can negotiate you
[57:20.780 --> 57:28.260]  with you and not lose face and have plausible deniability, make it easier for them to negotiate.
[57:28.260 --> 57:34.900]  Okay, I'm going to stop rambling on. We have a couple of callers and see Fred from California.
[57:34.900 --> 57:42.540]  Well, it seems like every time I mention somebody, they drop off. We've got Mike from Texas. Mike,
[57:42.540 --> 57:52.660]  I'm going to go to you before you hang up on me too. Okay, Mike, you sound like you have your
[57:52.660 --> 58:08.940]  head inside of a toilet. Are you on a speakerphone? Mike, are you there? I think I put him to sleep.
[58:08.940 --> 58:16.740]  Okay, Fred is back. As soon as we come back on the other side, we'll go to Fred. We've got about
[58:16.740 --> 58:21.660]  30 seconds. Fred, give us real quick what your question is so I think about it during the break.
[58:21.660 --> 58:33.060]  I think I put Fred to sleep too. Has that put everybody to sleep? I'm pretty good at that.
[58:33.060 --> 58:38.180]  I have that effect on people. Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[58:38.180 --> 58:49.140]  Will's Law Radio. We will try to take your calls on the other side. The call in number is 512-646-1984.
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[01:00:04.060 --> 01:00:09.060]  Syrian security forces shot dead 29 people Friday in another round of bloodshed against
[01:00:09.060 --> 01:00:14.260]  an uprising calling for the fall of President Bashar al-Assad. The deaths occurred in regions
[01:00:14.260 --> 01:00:19.060]  that have witnessed some of the largest protests. Homs, Dara, the southern town where the uprising
[01:00:19.060 --> 01:00:24.620]  began, the suburbs of the capital Damascus and the outskirts of Hamar, Syria's fourth largest city.
[01:00:24.620 --> 01:00:30.820]  Barack Obama yielding to pressure from his political base has backed off a proposal to
[01:00:30.820 --> 01:00:36.180]  cut Social Security retirement benefits in a high-stakes deficit deal Congress needs to reach
[01:00:36.180 --> 01:00:41.420]  this year. The president upset many core supporters in July when he offered to slash the pension
[01:00:41.420 --> 01:00:46.140]  fund by trillions of dollars during negotiations with Republicans who were raising the U.S. debt
[01:00:46.140 --> 01:00:52.020]  ceiling. Israel's Foreign Ministry Friday summoned the Egyptian ambassador after statements by
[01:00:52.020 --> 01:00:56.700]  interim Prime Minister Assam Sharif that the peace treaty between the two states is not sacred.
[01:00:56.700 --> 01:01:01.220]  Relations between Egypt and Israel, which have been bound by a peace treaty since 1979,
[01:01:01.220 --> 01:01:05.020]  have become turbulent since the ouster of former President Hosni Mubarak.
[01:01:05.020 --> 01:01:12.020]  Protesters in Haiti hurled rocks at riot police Wednesday who responded with volleys of tear gas
[01:01:12.020 --> 01:01:16.700]  outside the National Palace in the capital Port-au-Prince. The protesters said they wanted
[01:01:16.700 --> 01:01:21.460]  to see UN troops withdrawn from their country following allegations an 18-year-old Haitian
[01:01:21.460 --> 01:01:26.300]  man was sexually assaulted by UN peacekeepers from Uruguay. The assault was filmed on a
[01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:31.180]  cell phone and the footage posted on the internet. As a result, Uruguay sacked its naval commander
[01:01:31.180 --> 01:01:35.460]  with the mission and ordered the five men home. UN troops have kept order in Haiti ever
[01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:41.540]  since a 2004 U.S.-backed coup against President Jean Bertrand Aristide engulfed the country
[01:01:41.540 --> 01:01:46.580]  in violence. The UN has 12,000 military and police personnel based in Haiti. President
[01:01:46.580 --> 01:01:51.460]  Michel Martelly is expected to ask the UN mission's mandate to be renewed when it expires
[01:01:51.460 --> 01:01:52.980]  next month.
[01:01:52.980 --> 01:01:58.820]  Reuters reports the U.S. pursuit of offshore tax evaders is widening to include Israel,
[01:01:58.820 --> 01:02:03.300]  where the Justice Department is scrutinizing three of Israel's largest banks, whose suspicions
[01:02:03.300 --> 01:02:08.660]  their Swiss branches helped American clients evade taxes. The shift to Israel from Switzerland,
[01:02:08.660 --> 01:02:12.940]  which for years was the main focus of the department's campaign against offshore banking,
[01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:18.580]  signals a broadening of a probe by the agency that began in 2007 with UBS, Switzerland's
[01:02:18.580 --> 01:02:22.940]  largest bank. The Justice Department is trying to force nearly a dozen Swiss banks to pay
[01:02:22.940 --> 01:02:27.540]  billions of dollars in fines and admit to criminal wrongdoing. Deputy Attorney General
[01:02:27.540 --> 01:02:32.260]  James Cole has given the three Israeli banks until September 23 to produce information
[01:02:32.260 --> 01:02:38.380]  on their Swiss operations with U.S. clients. Under a 2009 settlement, UBS paid a $780
[01:02:38.380 --> 01:02:43.420]  million fine, admitted to criminal wrongdoing, and disclosed details for clients who had
[01:02:43.420 --> 01:03:09.420]  unreported accounts of at least $1.15 million.
[01:03:13.420 --> 01:03:43.380]  Let's try Mike again. If Mike doesn't come up, we'll go to Fred in California.
[01:03:43.380 --> 01:04:01.060]  Mike, are you there? Okay, we are going to Fred in California. Fred, what do you have
[01:04:01.060 --> 01:04:08.580]  for us tonight? It looks like we don't have Fred either. Okay, we're going to go to Jim
[01:04:08.580 --> 01:04:24.660]  in Washington. Jim, are you there? Jim, hello. What is going on tonight? Okay. Well, we can
[01:04:24.660 --> 01:04:39.540]  hear that side. They just can't seem to hear us. It seems to be. Let's try Joe in Texas.
[01:04:39.540 --> 01:04:43.060]  Joe, can you hear us? Well, that is interesting. There must be something wrong with the call
[01:04:43.060 --> 01:04:55.220]  bridge, as we seem to hear their background noise, but nobody's talking to us. Okay,
[01:04:55.220 --> 01:05:03.140]  I guess since the call bridge is back down, let me try Joe again. Hello. Hello, are you
[01:05:03.140 --> 01:05:08.460]  there? Mike, are you picking up the line? Okay, we've been getting a lot of background
[01:05:08.460 --> 01:05:15.540]  noise on your side, but you couldn't. I am right here. Okay, I'm not sure what that
[01:05:15.540 --> 01:05:20.460]  was. I'm not hearing background noise now, so it might have been something else wrong.
[01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:27.460]  Right here. Okay, good. What do you got for us? We're going to Fred.
[01:05:27.460 --> 01:05:43.100]  Mike, are you still there? Are you there? Well, this is getting more interesting by
[01:05:43.100 --> 01:05:52.140]  the minute. Yeah, I think we have something missing up on the call bridge. We can't have
[01:05:52.140 --> 01:05:58.060]  this many callers not being able to hear us. So it must be a call bridge error. So let's
[01:05:58.060 --> 01:06:07.180]  go back. We have something to go to Eddie. I don't want to hammer people all night with
[01:06:07.180 --> 01:06:16.220]  my diatribe, although I could. Let me talk about all this. There was something we had
[01:06:16.220 --> 01:06:26.980]  a question. It was a last Friday night. Why did he end or was it last night on grandfuries
[01:06:26.980 --> 01:06:45.660]  in due process? I was talking about it and I ran out of time. In terms of politics, politics,
[01:06:45.660 --> 01:06:52.420]  that's what the criminal aspect was all about. I'm looking at what's going on in the courts
[01:06:52.420 --> 01:07:02.700]  and we have a situation now where we have a federal judge that took us a suit that made
[01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:11.100]  claims that the defendant committed acts of criminal fraud and those acts of criminal
[01:07:11.100 --> 01:07:21.820]  fraud resulted in civil torts against the plaintiff and the judge dismissed his suit with a threat
[01:07:21.820 --> 01:07:28.780]  that if he makes any further criminal accusations that the judge will prefer sanctions against
[01:07:28.780 --> 01:07:49.020]  him. Interesting because we have everybody muted. Something must be stuck in the call
[01:07:49.020 --> 01:07:55.340]  bridge. When I told him that, he said, do you have that in writing? As a matter of fact,
[01:07:55.340 --> 01:08:04.140]  we do. That is an act of first misfeasance in office because the judge, when he had it
[01:08:04.140 --> 01:08:09.180]  made known to him that a crime had been committed, had a duty as a magistrate to examine into
[01:08:09.180 --> 01:08:15.900]  the deficiency of the allegation. Second, tampering with the witness, he made threats
[01:08:15.900 --> 01:08:21.500]  against a person for notifying the court that crimes had been committed for the purpose
[01:08:21.500 --> 01:08:27.780]  of shielding these people from prosecution violation of the 3805 penal code. That one's
[01:08:27.780 --> 01:08:33.860]  a felony. Tampering with the witness is a felony and you could also claim obstruction
[01:08:33.860 --> 01:08:42.820]  of justice. So we've got a federal judge here. If we go to the U.S. Attorney and make accusations
[01:08:42.820 --> 01:08:51.020]  against the federal judge, what do you think he's going to say? Are you out of your mind?
[01:08:51.020 --> 01:08:57.820]  I'm not going to end my career and get all these federal judges after me just because
[01:08:57.820 --> 01:09:04.100]  you don't like what this judge did. So the rule is go after the feds in the state and
[01:09:04.100 --> 01:09:09.940]  the state in the fed. So we're looking at going after this federal judge in the state
[01:09:09.940 --> 01:09:20.500]  court with the state prosecuting attorney. The problem the judge has zero immunity in
[01:09:20.500 --> 01:09:29.780]  this case. And now he has to worry about the particular politics of this prosecuting attorney.
[01:09:29.780 --> 01:09:39.660]  When we've looked at the politics, we have a first term prosecutor following Ron Earl,
[01:09:39.660 --> 01:09:48.060]  who was 25 year prosecuted attorney. We already have someone has thrown their hat in the ring
[01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:56.900]  to run against his prosecutor. And we're coming up on a set of elections to where the public
[01:09:56.900 --> 01:10:04.700]  is really upset at the government. And when the public is really upset, they don't always
[01:10:04.700 --> 01:10:10.940]  know who to vote for, but they certainly know who to vote against. And that's whoever the
[01:10:10.940 --> 01:10:17.860]  incumbent is. So we have an attorney who's coming in with some serious difficulty. And
[01:10:17.860 --> 01:10:28.140]  the judge has to consider, would this judge go after me to make political friends or to
[01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:39.060]  make, to create good feelings with his constituents, with his voters? This is going to need something
[01:10:39.060 --> 01:10:45.300]  to show that he's not one of these corrupt scoundrels, or in this case is she. The judge
[01:10:45.300 --> 01:10:52.740]  has to wonder, will she actually do this? And then when the guy goes to the prosecutor
[01:10:52.740 --> 01:10:59.780]  and files a complaint, and the prosecutor refuses to prosecute, we need to do what I
[01:10:59.780 --> 01:11:07.100]  did when I got all of these judges in the court of criminal appeals before a grand jury.
[01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:17.460]  We need to give the prosecutor plausible deniability by filing criminal charges against the prosecutor.
[01:11:17.460 --> 01:11:25.900]  Because now he's got pressure on him separate from his concern about upsetting a federal
[01:11:25.900 --> 01:11:34.020]  judge. Now he's got more serious concerns because these complaints were filing. If by
[01:11:34.020 --> 01:11:41.100]  some freak of nature we managed to get these to a grand jury, and the grand jury happened
[01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:47.020]  to be in a bad mood that day or annoyed at him for something, maybe he didn't let them
[01:11:47.020 --> 01:11:54.780]  take as long a lunch break as they wanted, they could indict him. Even if there was no
[01:11:54.780 --> 01:12:03.140]  grounds they could indict him. And if they did, or her, her career is over. Because an
[01:12:03.140 --> 01:12:13.140]  indictment from a grand jury creates a perception, and can second rule, perception is everything
[01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:21.300]  that in her career. And this judge, the federal judge has to sit up there and look at us down
[01:12:21.300 --> 01:12:28.340]  here hammering this local prosecuting attorney trying to get the prosecutor to file against
[01:12:28.340 --> 01:12:33.060]  this judge. And then when the prosecutor refuses to go after, we file with the district judge
[01:12:33.060 --> 01:12:39.740]  against the prosecutor and just keep this thing going. You know, when you get a charge
[01:12:39.740 --> 01:12:49.140]  against you, what are the primary tactics in the deal? It's delay. They want to string
[01:12:49.140 --> 01:12:55.580]  this thing out as long as possible. So they delay and they delay and they delay because
[01:12:55.580 --> 01:13:02.420]  they know this wears on you. You've got this weight hanging over you for month after month
[01:13:02.420 --> 01:13:11.420]  after month. And eventually, you'll take anything they offer just to get this over with.
[01:13:11.420 --> 01:13:20.340]  That federal judge is no different. The federal judge has no real cloud in the state court.
[01:13:20.340 --> 01:13:27.580]  And there's no love lost between the feds and the state. So he has to wonder whether
[01:13:27.580 --> 01:13:33.980]  we're actually going to get him indicted or not. And this is why I keep saying it's really
[01:13:33.980 --> 01:13:40.260]  not my purpose to get him indicted. But if we do this to this judge, when he did something
[01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:46.980]  really stupid, I believe he felt because he was a pro se, he'd get away with it. And then
[01:13:46.980 --> 01:13:54.420]  the pro se come back and hammer him good because pro se can wear a attorney would never go
[01:13:54.420 --> 01:14:00.220]  after him this way. And then he's looking at his career ending. He gets an indictment.
[01:14:00.220 --> 01:14:07.060]  His history. And this particular judge bought his position from Bush with a half a million
[01:14:07.060 --> 01:14:14.860]  dollar donation. He's a, as I understand the wealthiest federal district judge in the country.
[01:14:14.860 --> 01:14:22.860]  He absolutely wants to make his way to the appeals court. Well, if he has a felony indictment
[01:14:22.860 --> 01:14:29.500]  in the state for his behavior on the bench, the courts and the higher judges are going
[01:14:29.500 --> 01:14:36.820]  to look at him as a liability in his history. This is how we created politics. We don't
[01:14:36.820 --> 01:14:42.940]  necessarily want him indicted. We wouldn't have to look at the prospect of indictment.
[01:14:42.940 --> 01:14:50.700]  And if we get a judge on the bench, who at every turn has to consider the prospect of
[01:14:50.700 --> 01:15:03.340]  having his decision or his actions, appealed to a grand jury instead of a set of appellate
[01:15:03.340 --> 01:15:09.900]  judges, which happens with a judicial conduct complaint, would change their behavior and
[01:15:09.900 --> 01:15:16.460]  will make it more likely that we get what we want in the end. You know, if this guy is
[01:15:16.460 --> 01:15:22.980]  in a foreclosure issue, this judge is going to wind up going to the attorneys on the other
[01:15:22.980 --> 01:15:28.420]  side and tell them, you better do something. Get this guy off my behind. I can't do anything
[01:15:28.420 --> 01:15:33.740]  to him, but I can do something to you. I can end your careers. I can make you lose the
[01:15:33.740 --> 01:15:42.500]  next 10 cases. How would you like that? Politics. Regenerate politics. Okay, we're coming up
[01:15:42.500 --> 01:15:46.700]  on another break in a minute or so before we do, I want to test out the bridge to see
[01:15:46.700 --> 01:15:56.300]  if it's working. We have a line open. Eddie, we have that bridge up, Link. Do you know what
[01:15:56.300 --> 01:16:00.700]  that is? Yeah, that should be the bridge where they can hear us on the other side now. So
[01:16:00.700 --> 01:16:06.940]  let's go to Mike and see if he can actually hear us when we ask him. Okay, Mike, can you
[01:16:06.940 --> 01:16:15.420]  hear us now? I can hear you now. Oh, right. It seems to be working. Okay, Mike, we've
[01:16:15.420 --> 01:16:22.020]  spent a lot of time with you. Now we're out of time. Well, and I thank you very much.
[01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:28.020]  Okay, I'm just kidding. We're about to go to break, about 30 seconds from break. We
[01:16:28.020 --> 01:16:37.300]  will pick you up on the other side. All right. Okay, just jerking your chain. This is Randy
[01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:43.420]  Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rue La Radio. It seems you have the bridge working,
[01:16:43.420 --> 01:17:01.340]  so give us a call at 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:19:21.020 --> 01:19:45.460]  I think we have the keys worked out of the caller bridge now, so you folks that are hanging
[01:19:45.460 --> 01:19:50.300]  around out there trying to call in, if you've called and gotten dropped or thought we couldn't
[01:19:50.300 --> 01:19:54.220]  get in touch with you, please give us a call back. Right now, we're going to go ahead
[01:19:54.220 --> 01:19:59.340]  and continue on with our calls and we're going to take Mike in Texas. All right, Mike, let's
[01:19:59.340 --> 01:20:00.340]  continue on here.
[01:20:00.340 --> 01:20:08.820]  Yes, so I called you guys last week and you guys, I had a ticket in between South Austin
[01:20:08.820 --> 01:20:17.860]  and Oak Hill from a small little municipality and they wrote me for a sheet belt ticket
[01:20:17.860 --> 01:20:22.900]  and I don't know how they even would peer into the car. It's pretty dark and everything,
[01:20:22.900 --> 01:20:28.100]  but they did. They pulled me over and I got to go to court Monday. I was going to try
[01:20:28.100 --> 01:20:33.620]  to go to your seminar last Sunday, but it was too quick notice and I had other people
[01:20:33.620 --> 01:20:38.500]  coming into town, so that didn't work, but I go to court Monday. So I don't know what
[01:20:38.500 --> 01:20:45.100]  to do to tell them, you know, and you said something about an affidavit of appearance
[01:20:45.100 --> 01:20:50.380]  so you don't get stuck with failure to appear, so I got to try to figure out what I'm doing
[01:20:50.380 --> 01:20:51.380]  Monday morning.
[01:20:51.380 --> 01:20:53.660]  What court do you have to appear in?
[01:20:53.660 --> 01:20:56.940]  Well, at least Sunset Valley.
[01:20:56.940 --> 01:20:59.780]  I'm sorry, we didn't hear any of that over the door buzzer.
[01:20:59.780 --> 01:21:00.780]  Sunset Valley.
[01:21:00.780 --> 01:21:01.780]  Sunset Valley.
[01:21:01.780 --> 01:21:02.780]  Sunset Valley.
[01:21:02.780 --> 01:21:09.140]  I was thinking there's only one tiny little municipality down there. You might want to
[01:21:09.140 --> 01:21:13.940]  buy some time. Generally, when you ask for a continuance, they'll always give you the
[01:21:13.940 --> 01:21:22.540]  first one out of hand, and if they don't, are you able to vomit on command?
[01:21:22.540 --> 01:21:27.260]  Well, you know, I haven't ever tried that. I'm actually trying a lot of things.
[01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:31.500]  Well, I'm going to be up there and I've got something. I'm going to be doing some cooking.
[01:21:31.500 --> 01:21:36.100]  I can help you out. That'll always get you a continuance.
[01:21:36.100 --> 01:21:40.500]  Well, if that's what I need to do, I'll be glad to come by and get a plate of your
[01:21:40.500 --> 01:21:46.620]  food. Well, you can probably ask them, call like, oh, it's Monday, so you don't have
[01:21:46.620 --> 01:21:51.860]  much time. If you call them and ask them for a continuance, is this going to be the trial
[01:21:51.860 --> 01:21:53.340]  or a pre-trial hearing?
[01:21:53.340 --> 01:21:56.820]  Oh, well, this is my first date that they told me.
[01:21:56.820 --> 01:22:05.220]  Oh, okay. Just call them up. They'll almost always give you a hearing. I mean, a continuance,
[01:22:05.220 --> 01:22:09.220]  but if it's just the first time there, it's going to be an arraignment. They're going
[01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:16.220]  to ask you who we are and probably send you to the prosecutor and the prosecutor to say,
[01:22:16.220 --> 01:22:21.420]  okay, here's all the horrible stuff we're going to do to you if you don't take this
[01:22:21.420 --> 01:22:28.780]  perfectly reasonable deal and just say, yeah, I'm not ready to take the deal. And there's
[01:22:28.780 --> 01:22:35.420]  not going to be much happen at this first. Am I correct there or do you want to straighten
[01:22:35.420 --> 01:22:39.340]  them? Well, that depends on whether or not you actually get in front of the magistrate
[01:22:39.340 --> 01:22:43.980]  at all. There's also the possibility you go in there and you just wind up seeing a clerk
[01:22:43.980 --> 01:22:49.140]  at a window because the magistrate won't be available, in which case that is definitely
[01:22:49.140 --> 01:22:55.500]  when you wish to file the promise to or the affidavit of appearance. Now, you can do that
[01:22:55.500 --> 01:23:00.020]  regardless of whether or not you appear in front of the clerk or the magistrate just
[01:23:00.020 --> 01:23:04.460]  to record the fact that you were there because if you won't enter a plea, the magistrate
[01:23:04.460 --> 01:23:10.220]  will sometimes get snotty and say if you won't, then they'll just issue a warrant for you.
[01:23:10.220 --> 01:23:17.660]  I dare magistrate to issue a warrant for me when I'm standing in that court. But what
[01:23:17.660 --> 01:23:22.180]  Randy's saying is correct. That's probably what they will do if you do see a magistrate,
[01:23:22.180 --> 01:23:28.660]  but it is very important that you do not enter a plea yourself and that you object every
[01:23:28.660 --> 01:23:34.900]  time the judge attempts to do so. Mainly they're attempting to enter a plea and no one has
[01:23:34.900 --> 01:23:39.140]  even produced a copy of a complaint against you. So what the heck is a judge trying to
[01:23:39.140 --> 01:23:44.580]  get you to enter a plea to? What is giving the judge any authority or the magistrate
[01:23:44.580 --> 01:23:50.420]  any authority to enter a plea on your behalf when there's no issue before the court? Absolutely
[01:23:50.420 --> 01:23:55.060]  nothing. But until you make objections to these actions, they're not going to be in
[01:23:55.060 --> 01:24:00.380]  the record. So you need to make sure you take a digital recorder with you if you go, you
[01:24:00.380 --> 01:24:05.540]  need to take a couple of witnesses with you if you go, and you need to write fast and
[01:24:05.540 --> 01:24:10.300]  furious everything that happens so you can put it into an affidavit after the fact.
[01:24:10.300 --> 01:24:16.980]  Yes, and since this is your first time in court, a question. After you got the ticket,
[01:24:16.980 --> 01:24:23.740]  did you go down, you know, you agreed to appear within a certain time, did you go down to
[01:24:23.740 --> 01:24:30.020]  the court within that given time period? No, I think Monday is my date, to be honest
[01:24:30.020 --> 01:24:35.420]  with you. Oh, okay, good, good. Okay, then I wanted to make sure that this was the very
[01:24:35.420 --> 01:24:45.460]  first time that you're there. But since you're not up to speed, I would say, you know, not
[01:24:45.460 --> 01:24:51.300]  ready to enter a plea, I'm looking at putting together a challenge to jurisdiction, and
[01:24:51.300 --> 01:24:56.340]  I'm afraid if I enter a plea that it will kind of interfere with things. So if you don't
[01:24:56.340 --> 01:25:01.420]  mind, I'm not going to enter a plea yet. Try not to be confrontational if you can avoid
[01:25:01.420 --> 01:25:09.540]  it until, you know, stands your ground. But try not to be confrontational until you have
[01:25:09.540 --> 01:25:15.860]  some time to come down to the seminar and get a better understanding of what your position
[01:25:15.860 --> 01:25:20.980]  is. Sure. Well, one of the things that I have a problem with is I'm not in a law enforcement
[01:25:20.980 --> 01:25:25.860]  or anything like that. But I have a job, if I get arrested, I get fired. So if they play
[01:25:25.860 --> 01:25:30.100]  a game there, and I'm going to be arrested, I'll lose my job. I can't be... Well, yes.
[01:25:30.100 --> 01:25:34.900]  So, you know, tell them that, you know, if they insist on threat of arrest, do whatever
[01:25:34.900 --> 01:25:40.860]  they say, don't get arrested. It's really hard to fight for your rice food in jail. But you
[01:25:40.860 --> 01:25:50.060]  do anything you do under duress can be overturned. All right. So just let them know that, you
[01:25:50.060 --> 01:25:55.540]  know, you have a reason to believe that's a bad idea, that if you want to challenge,
[01:25:55.540 --> 01:26:03.580]  you intend to challenge subject matter jurisdiction. All right. And since you're challenging the
[01:26:03.580 --> 01:26:10.100]  subject matter jurisdiction, then it would be inappropriate for me to yield to the jurisdiction
[01:26:10.100 --> 01:26:15.500]  of the court. Sure. And if you try to explain that to them, they may tell you that you're
[01:26:15.500 --> 01:26:21.660]  all wrong and blah, blah, yada, yada. But it is a reasonable argument. And if you pose
[01:26:21.660 --> 01:26:26.260]  it to them, you know, like, you know, I'm just a dummy. I don't know nothing. And I've
[01:26:26.260 --> 01:26:32.580]  still got to do some more research. So if you don't mind, I'm going to not inter-appliate.
[01:26:32.580 --> 01:26:36.540]  The judge said, what's going to say, well, I'll inter-appliate for you. And he's statutorily
[01:26:36.540 --> 01:26:42.340]  authorized to do that. He's just not statutorily authorized to do it right then. Right. He
[01:26:42.340 --> 01:26:47.340]  don't have jurisdiction. But if you had jurisdiction, and he's going to act from the presumption
[01:26:47.340 --> 01:26:53.060]  that he does, he can presume jurisdiction until it's, until it's challenged. And since
[01:26:53.060 --> 01:26:58.180]  you don't have a motion in, he can presume it. Let him do whatever he wants to. It's
[01:26:58.180 --> 01:27:02.700]  not going to hurt you. All right. As long as you don't give it to him.
[01:27:02.700 --> 01:27:09.900]  Yes. Remember to object to what he does. All right.
[01:27:09.900 --> 01:27:18.420]  And let the judge know, you know, say, Your Honor, I'd like to register my objection. And
[01:27:18.420 --> 01:27:23.020]  he's going to say, well, your objection is over rules. And, Your Honor, I would like
[01:27:23.020 --> 01:27:29.580]  the record to reflect my exception to the rule. And do it politely. It's a matter of
[01:27:29.580 --> 01:27:37.220]  fact. Because all you're doing is perfecting for appeal. And if you say, let the record
[01:27:37.220 --> 01:27:43.860]  reflect your exception, he will know exactly what you're saying. And I have never had a
[01:27:43.860 --> 01:27:48.940]  judge take exception to be doing that. Yeah. Now, the only issue is whether or not the
[01:27:48.940 --> 01:27:53.700]  court you're going to is actually a court of record. If it's not, this is the reason
[01:27:53.700 --> 01:27:58.020]  why you take witnesses and why you make notes about everything so that you can reduce it
[01:27:58.020 --> 01:28:02.780]  to a written affidavit after the fact, because there's not a court reporter present if it's
[01:28:02.780 --> 01:28:09.700]  not a court of record. But make sure that if it is, the first words out of your mouth
[01:28:09.700 --> 01:28:16.900]  is, I move the court that all proceedings be on the record. Do not do anything else
[01:28:16.900 --> 01:28:20.900]  until those words come out of your mouth if it is a court of record.
[01:28:20.900 --> 01:28:27.900]  All right. Well, I'm going to try to come down to the seminar on Sunday. I may ask
[01:28:27.900 --> 01:28:32.860]  you, and I know you said you're busy with a lot of people asking you after the seminar.
[01:28:32.860 --> 01:28:37.820]  But, okay, so I go down there and I tell them I'm not going to enter a plea. They say they'll
[01:28:37.820 --> 01:28:42.540]  enter a plea for me as long as they're not arresting me after doing anything. If he says
[01:28:42.540 --> 01:28:47.020]  he's going to enter a plea, I'll say I reject. He says the overrule to your objection. I tell
[01:28:47.020 --> 01:28:51.820]  them I want to make exception. Or what was that one more time?
[01:28:51.820 --> 01:29:00.820]  You can just say something as simple as defense exception. All right. And so then, but first
[01:29:00.820 --> 01:29:09.780]  just ask him if I tend to challenge the jurisdiction on this ticket here. And I'd like to have
[01:29:09.780 --> 01:29:16.460]  a continuance to a later date while I prepare my side. Perfect. Perfect. That would do it.
[01:29:16.460 --> 01:29:23.460]  You'd absolutely have a witness. Don't one thing though, don't have a malady witness.
[01:29:23.460 --> 01:29:30.500]  Right. Well, I live pretty far out in the country. And when I come into town, I don't
[01:29:30.500 --> 01:29:36.500]  know anybody that I can just handily take there. And my significant other is no longer
[01:29:36.500 --> 01:29:38.740]  my mother. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. We're about to go to break.
[01:29:38.740 --> 01:29:43.580]  But just one thing, if you come to the seminar, don't bring a baseball bat because you don't
[01:29:43.580 --> 01:29:49.180]  want to be like everybody else. Okay. Ready to count WC with David Craig,
[01:29:49.180 --> 01:29:56.500]  wheel of love radio. We're taking your calls 512-646-1984. We'll be right back on the other
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[01:32:22.860 --> 01:32:27.460]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. This is our Friday night four-hour
[01:32:27.460 --> 01:32:35.180]  marathon. We're an hour and a half into the show. The call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[01:32:35.180 --> 01:32:39.340]  Right now, we are going to finish up with a call that we have with Mike in Texas. Mike,
[01:32:39.340 --> 01:32:40.340]  please continue.
[01:32:40.340 --> 01:32:45.980]  All right. Well, I'm concerned if I put this in motion, how that's going to play out at
[01:32:45.980 --> 01:32:51.660]  the end of this, what I'm going to be trying to do, because I don't want to get to the
[01:32:51.660 --> 01:32:57.580]  end of it, and then not be, you know, shoot the bullets out of my, or my, probably put
[01:32:57.580 --> 01:32:58.580]  you in.
[01:32:58.580 --> 01:32:59.580]  What do you mean by the end of it?
[01:32:59.580 --> 01:33:08.740]  Well, so if I set it out to play that out in challenge, jurisdiction, and at the end,
[01:33:08.740 --> 01:33:12.980]  they will overrule me and everything and decide that they want to do something. Are they going
[01:33:12.980 --> 01:33:16.580]  to do anything worse than they've already planned to do, which is take my money?
[01:33:16.580 --> 01:33:21.900]  Well, they're going to take your money.
[01:33:21.900 --> 01:33:27.220]  Right. Okay. So I'm going to challenge their jurisdiction, and so then, and I've heard
[01:33:27.220 --> 01:33:31.900]  it once or twice, you guys talking about it, but I mean, what jurisdiction do they not
[01:33:31.900 --> 01:33:37.700]  have on that roadway and not writing me that ticket? And are we going down the motor vehicle
[01:33:37.700 --> 01:33:42.300]  and I'm not in the motor vehicle because I'm not for hire and is it all of that?
[01:33:42.300 --> 01:33:48.820]  Well, that's part of it. Yes, it's all one big little bowl of jello there for you. It's
[01:33:48.820 --> 01:33:54.860]  all part of the same thing. The transportation code applies only to those that are acting
[01:33:54.860 --> 01:33:58.460]  in commerce on the roadways. Were you?
[01:33:58.460 --> 01:34:00.580]  I was not.
[01:34:00.580 --> 01:34:07.780]  Okay. Then the seat belt laws do not apply to you because you're not in commerce.
[01:34:07.780 --> 01:34:12.380]  And that doesn't have to do with anything that I have a driver's license, which you
[01:34:12.380 --> 01:34:13.380]  don't.
[01:34:13.380 --> 01:34:14.380]  I got one.
[01:34:14.380 --> 01:34:17.860]  I want to ask something to do with it. The question is, were you using it at the time?
[01:34:17.860 --> 01:34:19.940]  Did you give it to the cop?
[01:34:19.940 --> 01:34:20.940]  I did.
[01:34:20.940 --> 01:34:24.900]  Okay. Then just shoot yourself in the head now and you'll need your wallet.
[01:34:24.900 --> 01:34:33.180]  No, no, no. Just because you gave your driver's license to the police officer does not put
[01:34:33.180 --> 01:34:43.060]  you in commerce. I understand the concept of that. However, going upon this discussion
[01:34:43.060 --> 01:34:49.100]  over and over again with Harman, he disagrees with that simply by producing the license
[01:34:49.100 --> 01:34:54.860]  you are asking them to regulate you. That's exactly what his interpretation of what they're
[01:34:54.860 --> 01:35:00.500]  doing is. When you produce that license on demand, you're asking to be regulated.
[01:35:00.500 --> 01:35:04.820]  Where does Harman get the case law to back that up?
[01:35:04.820 --> 01:35:10.220]  The rulings. That's exactly what's occurred in every case that everyone has lost is they
[01:35:10.220 --> 01:35:18.420]  have produced the license or has latched onto that as being proof of commerce.
[01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:25.820]  The problem with that is now we have an impossible situation because when you signed for the
[01:35:25.820 --> 01:35:34.980]  license, part of the stipulation was that you agreed to produce it on demand.
[01:35:34.980 --> 01:35:36.500]  I concur.
[01:35:36.500 --> 01:35:41.700]  Not if you're in commerce or not in commerce. So if you don't produce it, now you get yourself
[01:35:41.700 --> 01:35:43.260]  arrested.
[01:35:43.260 --> 01:35:49.900]  Again, I concur, which to me is a violation of a protected right not to incriminate oneself.
[01:35:49.900 --> 01:35:56.460]  Right. And so if you just say you didn't have it, but you gave them the number, you
[01:35:56.460 --> 01:35:58.140]  don't do that either.
[01:35:58.140 --> 01:36:04.260]  Okay. There's an approach to this, which again, had you been attending the seminars regularly,
[01:36:04.260 --> 01:36:08.780]  you'd know what they are. But the point is there is a set method we are putting into
[01:36:08.780 --> 01:36:14.300]  place to deal with this. When you don't deal with it that way, you're setting a bunch of
[01:36:14.300 --> 01:36:19.740]  stumbling blocks in your path. You may successfully manage to get through without tripping on
[01:36:19.740 --> 01:36:24.860]  your face, but your trip is a whole lot harder than it had to be.
[01:36:24.860 --> 01:36:26.100]  Sure.
[01:36:26.100 --> 01:36:31.060]  So the objective here is not to put those stumbling blocks under our own feet.
[01:36:31.060 --> 01:36:38.660]  Right. I understand that. So the thing that I did produce my license and I agree, I like
[01:36:38.660 --> 01:36:44.860]  the point that Randy says that I don't want to go to jail, so I did produce it.
[01:36:44.860 --> 01:36:49.540]  Well, I like the point too. Unfortunately, that's not the way the courts are ruling on
[01:36:49.540 --> 01:36:54.700]  it when it's produced. They're not looking at it as being coerced. They're looking at
[01:36:54.700 --> 01:36:59.500]  it as accepting by agreement the necessity to produce it at all.
[01:36:59.500 --> 01:37:06.540]  Do we have case law concerning the production of the license under duress?
[01:37:06.540 --> 01:37:11.460]  Well, that's part of what we're looking at in this lawsuit is what case law has that
[01:37:11.460 --> 01:37:16.980]  and what law doesn't, because if they do that, then what they're looking at is compelled
[01:37:16.980 --> 01:37:24.580]  consent and compelled consent is an oxymoron. It can't happen.
[01:37:24.580 --> 01:37:30.380]  So we're trying to find the case law that supports that viewpoint that it can't happen.
[01:37:30.380 --> 01:37:37.660]  Yeah. I'm trying to find a way to protect the position and not get your head beat in
[01:37:37.660 --> 01:37:38.660]  at the same time.
[01:37:38.660 --> 01:37:45.140]  Yeah, because I got out of the car and he goes, get back out of my car. And he started
[01:37:45.140 --> 01:37:51.220]  doing his nice stance, and I thought, oh boy, for a seat, though.
[01:37:51.220 --> 01:37:55.180]  Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. His stance?
[01:37:55.180 --> 01:38:00.140]  Yeah. He started changing into, you know...
[01:38:00.140 --> 01:38:02.540]  Did he put his hand on his pistol?
[01:38:02.540 --> 01:38:09.020]  I'd like to refrain from saying that over the air.
[01:38:09.020 --> 01:38:17.940]  No, don't refrain from saying that. That's important. If he put his hand on his pistol,
[01:38:17.940 --> 01:38:19.740]  that goes to aggravated assault.
[01:38:19.740 --> 01:38:27.500]  I know, but I don't know... So I understand either you're in it to disagree and fight it
[01:38:27.500 --> 01:38:32.620]  or you're not. And I understand I'm kind of tripped in the middle, and based on what
[01:38:32.620 --> 01:38:40.980]  Eddie says, I'm a little more in their court than I am in my court in this situation since
[01:38:40.980 --> 01:38:46.620]  I already produced a license. So the fast forward of all that, do I get out of it by
[01:38:46.620 --> 01:38:49.340]  arguing jurisdiction?
[01:38:49.340 --> 01:38:56.700]  Okay. Again, Mike, do you intend to fight this or just get out of this? There's a difference
[01:38:56.700 --> 01:38:58.540]  to the two.
[01:38:58.540 --> 01:38:59.940]  I like either or.
[01:38:59.940 --> 01:39:02.860]  Well, that's not an either or. It's one or the other.
[01:39:02.860 --> 01:39:05.300]  Just get out of it, yes.
[01:39:05.300 --> 01:39:06.300]  Okay.
[01:39:06.300 --> 01:39:10.700]  Then take the deal. Walk away.
[01:39:10.700 --> 01:39:13.060]  What deal? What day off?
[01:39:13.060 --> 01:39:15.340]  Pay them off. Take the deal. Walk away.
[01:39:15.340 --> 01:39:20.580]  Yep. If all you want to do is settle the ticket, then just give them your money because you're
[01:39:20.580 --> 01:39:26.420]  not going to go into court and win. Not at the first shot. Not going to happen. The
[01:39:26.420 --> 01:39:32.100]  system is rigged against you. So if you're not wanting to solve the problem rather than
[01:39:32.100 --> 01:39:37.100]  just fight the ticket, it's not going to do you any good because you'll get part way through
[01:39:37.100 --> 01:39:41.420]  it and find out that it's too much effort and too much time and too much trouble and
[01:39:41.420 --> 01:39:47.740]  you'll quit. And we don't need any more bad case precedent set for everybody else to overcome.
[01:39:47.740 --> 01:39:49.300]  I've heard that before.
[01:39:49.300 --> 01:39:50.300]  I've heard that.
[01:39:50.300 --> 01:39:54.660]  Yeah. If you're not going to go through it to the bitter end, don't start because that
[01:39:54.660 --> 01:39:58.020]  just creates a quagmire for the rest of us to have to go through behind you.
[01:39:58.020 --> 01:40:03.980]  Sure. Then I can appreciate that and we'll abide by your guys' posture or how you indicate
[01:40:03.980 --> 01:40:09.420]  we should do so because I appreciate your input and intelligence on these matters. So
[01:40:09.420 --> 01:40:12.380]  I want to follow what you guys are saying.
[01:40:12.380 --> 01:40:15.700]  So how many times do we talk and I have to show up and everything?
[01:40:15.700 --> 01:40:20.820]  Well, that depends on how diligent and adept you are at learning the process and fighting
[01:40:20.820 --> 01:40:24.500]  back. There's no way to tell you that in advance.
[01:40:24.500 --> 01:40:29.580]  You'll be talking that I have to file criminal complaints when I object and they overrule.
[01:40:29.580 --> 01:40:34.500]  You're going to have to file paperwork, judicial conduct complaints, bar grievances and possibly
[01:40:34.500 --> 01:40:37.180]  even criminal complaints. Yes.
[01:40:37.180 --> 01:40:38.180]  Right.
[01:40:38.180 --> 01:40:42.060]  Hey, it's a lot of fun.
[01:40:42.060 --> 01:40:46.140]  And I want to be better prepared for something that might really make a difference in my
[01:40:46.140 --> 01:40:49.500]  life and I don't know that this seat belt really does.
[01:40:49.500 --> 01:40:52.500]  Okay. I have a question for you.
[01:40:52.500 --> 01:40:53.500]  Sure.
[01:40:53.500 --> 01:40:55.500]  When are you going to get prepared?
[01:40:55.500 --> 01:41:05.140]  When the sky is falling the end, you're going to wait to get prepared when the bad things
[01:41:05.140 --> 01:41:10.780]  really happen or you want to get prepared now so when it does happen, you're ready for
[01:41:10.780 --> 01:41:11.780]  it.
[01:41:11.780 --> 01:41:18.500]  You fight this ticket. When you're done, if they try something a lot more serious, you
[01:41:18.500 --> 01:41:27.020]  should be ready for it. If you wait until you get stopped for DUI when you weren't drinking,
[01:41:27.020 --> 01:41:35.940]  now you have a real uphill battle. A traffic ticket is absolutely the cheapest education,
[01:41:35.940 --> 01:41:38.460]  legal education you can get.
[01:41:38.460 --> 01:41:47.020]  I can appreciate that. Yeah, I really love, I think I need to attend the seminar Sunday
[01:41:47.020 --> 01:41:52.540]  just to get a better idea and if I were able to steal a minute or two from you, Eddie,
[01:41:52.540 --> 01:41:58.500]  that'd be great because I definitely want to either decide to fight it or pay it just
[01:41:58.500 --> 01:41:59.500]  to get it done.
[01:41:59.500 --> 01:42:04.740]  And I appreciate what you're saying there, Andy, that that's a valuable education with
[01:42:04.740 --> 01:42:08.340]  not much in the balance to learn all of that in.
[01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:14.540]  Yeah, and if you come to the seminar, don't bring a bat because everybody wants to get
[01:42:14.540 --> 01:42:21.540]  with Eddie after the show. Bring a sack of oranges. They don't leave marks.
[01:42:21.540 --> 01:42:31.660]  Okay, but you will find, this is, what are you going to do? They're going to charge you
[01:42:31.660 --> 01:42:39.380]  a couple hundred bucks. That's what's going to happen. Whether you fight, you don't fight.
[01:42:39.380 --> 01:42:46.380]  So when I pay them 200 bucks, it's going to be after the fight, guys. They're going to
[01:42:46.380 --> 01:42:48.940]  believe the fight I get. Give them.
[01:42:48.940 --> 01:42:54.820]  Do you think they might just look at it and say, hey, this guy's putting up too good of
[01:42:54.820 --> 01:42:59.140]  a fight. Maybe I understand where he's going and maybe he's possibly right. Let's get him
[01:42:59.140 --> 01:43:03.380]  out of here so other people don't see this stuff and dismiss it on him.
[01:43:03.380 --> 01:43:04.380]  Exactly.
[01:43:04.380 --> 01:43:11.380]  This is a really small town. This is sunset. It's really small. Good chance they're going
[01:43:11.380 --> 01:43:14.500]  to say, just get him out of here.
[01:43:14.500 --> 01:43:24.180]  It's a good chance of that. Like Rockdale. For Eddie, it was a real small town. They
[01:43:24.180 --> 01:43:27.740]  didn't want to go through this fight. They got somebody who knows how to fight with them.
[01:43:27.740 --> 01:43:34.740]  They know it's going to cost them money. They don't want to bother with it. So there's a
[01:43:34.740 --> 01:43:42.740]  good chance. At least in the end, the fight will have been worth it. This is Randy Kelton,
[01:43:42.740 --> 01:43:47.380]  Deborah Stephen, Daddy Craig, we'll go radio. Okay, Mike, we're going to move on when we
[01:43:47.380 --> 01:43:56.300]  come back. We're going to go to Jim from Washington. Call it numbers 512-646-1984. We'll be right
[01:43:56.300 --> 01:43:58.300]  back.
[01:44:26.300 --> 01:44:33.300]  We'll be right back.
[01:44:56.300 --> 01:45:03.300]  Hey, did you hear? Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012.
[01:45:03.300 --> 01:45:04.300]  Who's Ron Paul?
[01:45:04.300 --> 01:45:07.800]  Really? Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute. Your friends really don't care
[01:45:07.800 --> 01:45:10.300]  about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast.
[01:45:10.300 --> 01:45:13.300]  Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks.
[01:45:13.300 --> 01:45:16.800]  Of course you do. Now, listen closely. You need to go down to Brave New Books and learn
[01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:20.580]  as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late. They have all
[01:45:20.580 --> 01:45:24.740]  of his books and many of the books he talks about. They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers
[01:45:24.740 --> 01:45:27.740]  and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign.
[01:45:27.740 --> 01:45:30.740]  Brave New Books? Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight?
[01:45:30.740 --> 01:45:34.740]  No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect
[01:45:34.740 --> 01:45:36.740]  your family in time of emergency.
[01:45:36.740 --> 01:45:38.740]  Ugh, that sounds like that show on the Discovery Channel.
[01:45:38.740 --> 01:45:42.740]  Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earthskill
[01:45:42.740 --> 01:45:46.740]  School that you can sign up for on the website bravenewbookstore.com. What are you doing?
[01:45:46.740 --> 01:45:50.740]  I'm tweeting all my friends that they should go to bravenewbookstore.com or down to the
[01:45:50.740 --> 01:45:54.740]  bookstore in person. Where's it located? 1904 Guadalupe Street.
[01:45:54.740 --> 01:45:57.740]  There, it's set. I even made a smiley face.
[01:45:57.740 --> 01:45:59.740]  Great.
[01:45:59.740 --> 01:46:21.740]  Hi folks, we are back. This is Ruin of Law Radio. This is our party night for our marathon.
[01:46:21.740 --> 01:46:26.740]  We have just a little over two hours left in the show. Right now we have several callers
[01:46:26.740 --> 01:46:32.740]  up on the board and we are going to go to Jim in Washington. Jim, what can we do for you?
[01:46:32.740 --> 01:46:33.740]  Hi, how are you?
[01:46:33.740 --> 01:46:34.740]  Alright, how are you?
[01:46:34.740 --> 01:46:39.740]  Good. Hey, I'm having a problem. I've got an attorney that works for the federal government
[01:46:39.740 --> 01:46:44.740]  in the National Labor Relations Board and I'm having problems locating her bar number
[01:46:44.740 --> 01:46:47.740]  and I was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to do that.
[01:46:47.740 --> 01:46:52.740]  Well, she should be listed either in whatever state she's registered in or with the American Bar
[01:46:52.740 --> 01:46:54.740]  Association if she's federal.
[01:46:54.740 --> 01:47:04.740]  Okay. She should, if she's, as I understand, if a U.S. attorney or an attorney working for
[01:47:04.740 --> 01:47:08.740]  the federal government is practicing within a state, they have to be registered with that
[01:47:08.740 --> 01:47:09.740]  state bar.
[01:47:09.740 --> 01:47:12.740]  He is not registered with my state.
[01:47:12.740 --> 01:47:19.740]  Then she's not allowed, unless she's Pro-Hack VC, she's not authorized to practice law.
[01:47:19.740 --> 01:47:21.740]  Interesting.
[01:47:21.740 --> 01:47:28.740]  You should file illegal practice of law in the unauthorized practice law, whatever your
[01:47:28.740 --> 01:47:29.740]  statute is there.
[01:47:29.740 --> 01:47:37.740]  Alright. Another question I had for Eddie was, did you ever figure out the situation with
[01:47:37.740 --> 01:47:40.740]  insurance and no license?
[01:47:40.740 --> 01:47:43.740]  I don't know what you mean by figure out the situation.
[01:47:43.740 --> 01:47:47.740]  Well, as far as, I've heard you in the past radio program say there was no coverage if
[01:47:47.740 --> 01:47:50.740]  you didn't have a license and I was wondering if you found a way around that.
[01:47:50.740 --> 01:47:57.740]  That depends upon what the wording of your policy is, but now you do have private group
[01:47:57.740 --> 01:48:04.740]  insurers that actually pool their money together to work as a private group for self insurance,
[01:48:04.740 --> 01:48:09.740]  basically is what it amounts to and they don't care if you have a license or not.
[01:48:09.740 --> 01:48:13.740]  You can buy just liability insurance.
[01:48:13.740 --> 01:48:16.740]  It's not specific to automobiles.
[01:48:16.740 --> 01:48:23.740]  Just liability insurance for any kind of liability that you would incur.
[01:48:23.740 --> 01:48:27.740]  Automobile insurance is commercial insurance.
[01:48:27.740 --> 01:48:28.740]  Okay.
[01:48:28.740 --> 01:48:29.740]  Always.
[01:48:29.740 --> 01:48:34.740]  I was kind of curious if your homeowners wouldn't kick in on that, you know, like if you hit
[01:48:34.740 --> 01:48:39.740]  somebody in the head with a golf ball, your homeowner covers you, doesn't it?
[01:48:39.740 --> 01:48:41.740]  Yes, but I don't know.
[01:48:41.740 --> 01:48:46.740]  It depends on the policy.
[01:48:46.740 --> 01:48:51.740]  If you're away from the home and it would still cover you, how would you think it would
[01:48:51.740 --> 01:48:56.740]  if it has a personal injury writer?
[01:48:56.740 --> 01:48:57.740]  Okay.
[01:48:57.740 --> 01:48:58.740]  It was just something to think about.
[01:48:58.740 --> 01:48:59.740]  I thought I'd run it by you.
[01:48:59.740 --> 01:49:02.740]  Thank you very much for your help.
[01:49:02.740 --> 01:49:03.740]  Yes, sir.
[01:49:03.740 --> 01:49:04.740]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:49:04.740 --> 01:49:05.740]  All right.
[01:49:05.740 --> 01:49:06.740]  Good night.
[01:49:06.740 --> 01:49:07.740]  Good night.
[01:49:07.740 --> 01:49:08.740]  Okay.
[01:49:08.740 --> 01:49:10.740]  Now we're going to go to Mark in Oklahoma.
[01:49:10.740 --> 01:49:11.740]  What can we do for you?
[01:49:11.740 --> 01:49:14.740]  Hey, another barn burner Friday night.
[01:49:14.740 --> 01:49:18.740]  Loving the show.
[01:49:18.740 --> 01:49:24.740]  I was listening to Randy earlier talking about the attorneys that are showing up on these
[01:49:24.740 --> 01:49:31.740]  foreclosures and saying that, you know, do you represent them?
[01:49:31.740 --> 01:49:39.740]  And I had an interesting thing happen in Oklahoma that there's a statute that you can demand
[01:49:39.740 --> 01:49:42.740]  proof of authority from the attorney.
[01:49:42.740 --> 01:49:47.740]  Either side can demand proof of authority to represent their client.
[01:49:47.740 --> 01:49:50.740]  Yeah, it's called a rule 12 challenge.
[01:49:50.740 --> 01:49:52.740]  Well, it depends.
[01:49:52.740 --> 01:49:54.740]  In Texas it's a rule 12.
[01:49:54.740 --> 01:49:58.740]  But most every state is likely to have that.
[01:49:58.740 --> 01:50:05.740]  In Oklahoma we have actually a statute that's titled five section five proof of authority.
[01:50:05.740 --> 01:50:15.740]  And here a couple of weeks ago I had a friend that ran a motion for proof of authority on
[01:50:15.740 --> 01:50:17.740]  a credit card lawsuit.
[01:50:17.740 --> 01:50:23.740]  And a lot of these credit cards, the attorneys are buying the debts, these charged off debts
[01:50:23.740 --> 01:50:28.740]  and they're bringing a lawsuit on behalf of the name of the original creditor, even though
[01:50:28.740 --> 01:50:32.740]  the original creditor has already sold off the account.
[01:50:32.740 --> 01:50:35.740]  Which also in Oklahoma is a crime.
[01:50:35.740 --> 01:50:44.740]  If an attorney buys a charged off debt with the intent to bring a lawsuit, it's considered a crime.
[01:50:44.740 --> 01:50:47.740]  That's considered champerty.
[01:50:47.740 --> 01:50:49.740]  That's the name for that.
[01:50:49.740 --> 01:50:50.740]  Okay.
[01:50:50.740 --> 01:50:57.740]  So anyway, a friend filed a motion for proof of authority and the attorney responded.
[01:50:57.740 --> 01:51:02.740]  In Oklahoma they have two options.
[01:51:02.740 --> 01:51:07.740]  They can either produce the contract between their client and the attorney, which is generally
[01:51:07.740 --> 01:51:10.740]  not privileged information.
[01:51:10.740 --> 01:51:16.740]  And there's a pretty good court case of the Ninth Circuit Court that supports that's Clark
[01:51:16.740 --> 01:51:19.740]  versus American Commerce National Bank.
[01:51:19.740 --> 01:51:28.740]  And so the attorney showed up and when the judge questioned him about to his proof of
[01:51:28.740 --> 01:51:33.740]  authority, he him hot around and says, well, I've been an attorney for so many years and
[01:51:33.740 --> 01:51:35.740]  da, da, da, da.
[01:51:35.740 --> 01:51:42.740]  And the judge just struck the gavel and dismissed the case without prejudice because he wouldn't
[01:51:42.740 --> 01:51:45.740]  prove up his authority to represent the alleged client.
[01:51:45.740 --> 01:51:46.740]  Right.
[01:51:46.740 --> 01:51:52.740]  The client should count against the attorney for malicious prosecution.
[01:51:52.740 --> 01:51:53.740]  Yeah.
[01:51:53.740 --> 01:51:57.740]  Not only that, he should have also petitioned the court for sanctions against the attorney
[01:51:57.740 --> 01:52:01.740]  for impersonating whatever he was impersonating at the time.
[01:52:01.740 --> 01:52:02.740]  Right.
[01:52:02.740 --> 01:52:03.740]  Right.
[01:52:03.740 --> 01:52:07.740]  Because he was also at that point attempting to do that and perpetrating fraud upon the
[01:52:07.740 --> 01:52:11.740]  court in a case where he had no authority to act.
[01:52:11.740 --> 01:52:16.740]  So there was numerous criminal and sanctionable acts by the attorney.
[01:52:16.740 --> 01:52:17.740]  Right.
[01:52:17.740 --> 01:52:18.740]  Right.
[01:52:18.740 --> 01:52:19.740]  Okay.
[01:52:19.740 --> 01:52:21.740]  So don't forget to bar grieve him at the same time.
[01:52:21.740 --> 01:52:23.740]  That's a point well taken.
[01:52:23.740 --> 01:52:25.740]  And here's what I'm thinking.
[01:52:25.740 --> 01:52:30.740]  I just want to throw this out on the table and get your guys' feedback.
[01:52:30.740 --> 01:52:36.740]  If they deny the motion I've seen in another case, I was just sitting in the gallery as
[01:52:36.740 --> 01:52:38.740]  a witness.
[01:52:38.740 --> 01:52:45.740]  A lady had filed a motion for proof of authority and the three attorneys showed up from the
[01:52:45.740 --> 01:52:50.740]  debt collection law firm and the judge said, well, they entered their notice of appearance
[01:52:50.740 --> 01:52:54.740]  and that's all the proof you need and she just objected and said that's not proof.
[01:52:54.740 --> 01:52:57.740]  And the attorneys never said a word.
[01:52:57.740 --> 01:53:02.740]  They didn't file any kind of response and the judge sat there and defended them.
[01:53:02.740 --> 01:53:05.740]  Filed criminal charges against the judge.
[01:53:05.740 --> 01:53:06.740]  Right.
[01:53:06.740 --> 01:53:09.740]  The judge has two primary duties.
[01:53:09.740 --> 01:53:14.740]  He must develop the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence and apply the law to
[01:53:14.740 --> 01:53:16.740]  the facts as they come to him.
[01:53:16.740 --> 01:53:23.740]  If he failed to apply the law to the facts, he breached a ministerial duty.
[01:53:23.740 --> 01:53:24.740]  Okay.
[01:53:24.740 --> 01:53:29.740]  And he denied this person he had full of free access to enjoyment of right.
[01:53:29.740 --> 01:53:31.740]  That's a crime in Oklahoma.
[01:53:31.740 --> 01:53:36.740]  I don't remember which one it is, but I've seen it in an official misconduct statute in
[01:53:36.740 --> 01:53:37.740]  Oklahoma.
[01:53:37.740 --> 01:53:42.740]  Well, that'll bring up my second point here in just a moment about the facts and the
[01:53:42.740 --> 01:53:44.740]  conclusions of law.
[01:53:44.740 --> 01:53:46.740]  But here's what I was thinking, guys.
[01:53:46.740 --> 01:53:52.740]  If the judge denies your motion for proof of authority and the opposing attorney doesn't
[01:53:52.740 --> 01:54:00.740]  present any evidence that he has authority to represent the client, it seems like that
[01:54:00.740 --> 01:54:06.740]  would be grounds to take it up on an interlocutory appeal because it would dispose of the case.
[01:54:06.740 --> 01:54:08.740]  Exactly.
[01:54:08.740 --> 01:54:12.740]  Well, yeah, that's exactly what it would do.
[01:54:12.740 --> 01:54:20.740]  But again, when the judge does this, the judge is also acting no longer impartial.
[01:54:20.740 --> 01:54:26.740]  When he starts acting as one party or the other for the sake of preserving an authority
[01:54:26.740 --> 01:54:29.740]  that doesn't exist, he's no longer acting impartial.
[01:54:29.740 --> 01:54:30.740]  Right.
[01:54:30.740 --> 01:54:31.740]  Right.
[01:54:31.740 --> 01:54:34.740]  Well, that would be grounds for disqualification, too.
[01:54:34.740 --> 01:54:35.740]  Exactly.
[01:54:35.740 --> 01:54:36.740]  Okay.
[01:54:36.740 --> 01:54:40.740]  And it's fun to do that in the courtroom.
[01:54:40.740 --> 01:54:46.740]  Order the judge to stand down from the bench.
[01:54:46.740 --> 01:54:48.740]  We've got to do that once.
[01:54:48.740 --> 01:54:49.740]  It's really a hoot.
[01:54:49.740 --> 01:54:58.740]  I haven't gotten any hot water to be able to do that, so I have to watch from the sidelines.
[01:54:58.740 --> 01:55:06.740]  The second point, and you just kind of brought up, which I think is very interesting, is
[01:55:06.740 --> 01:55:09.740]  findings of facts and conclusions of law.
[01:55:09.740 --> 01:55:15.740]  A lot of these judges, they'll issue an order or a decision just saying, well, we held a
[01:55:15.740 --> 01:55:20.740]  hearing, and based upon what was discussed, I find in favor of this party or the other
[01:55:20.740 --> 01:55:22.740]  party, usually the plaintiff.
[01:55:22.740 --> 01:55:28.740]  And that doesn't cut it.
[01:55:28.740 --> 01:55:33.740]  They're supposed to determine the facts and then provide conclusions of law that supports
[01:55:33.740 --> 01:55:34.740]  their decision.
[01:55:34.740 --> 01:55:40.740]  And in a lot of states, if the court's not willing to do that or cannot do it, if they
[01:55:40.740 --> 01:55:47.740]  fail or refuse to provide findings of facts and conclusions of law, that decision is usually
[01:55:47.740 --> 01:55:49.740]  void on its face.
[01:55:49.740 --> 01:55:56.740]  Well, that was what I was going to, that the judge has a duty to develop the facts in accordance
[01:55:56.740 --> 01:56:00.740]  with the rules of evidence, then apply the laws that comes to him to the facts in the
[01:56:00.740 --> 01:56:01.740]  case.
[01:56:01.740 --> 01:56:10.740]  So if he makes a decision and he states no law upon which to base the decision, then he
[01:56:10.740 --> 01:56:13.740]  exercised an authority he does not have.
[01:56:13.740 --> 01:56:21.740]  That's why if they fail to produce the findings of facts and conclusions of law, that it is
[01:56:21.740 --> 01:56:27.740]  a, in Texas, it's a breach of a ministerial duty if they fail to produce it because they
[01:56:27.740 --> 01:56:33.740]  deny you and your ability to appeal because you don't know what to appeal.
[01:56:33.740 --> 01:56:34.740]  Okay.
[01:56:34.740 --> 01:56:35.740]  Okay.
[01:56:35.740 --> 01:56:43.740]  By the way, I sent to you, I emailed all three of you a copy of the proper federal
[01:56:43.740 --> 01:56:45.740]  indictment procedures memorandum.
[01:56:45.740 --> 01:56:48.740]  I don't know if you guys got a chance to see it or not, but I did.
[01:56:48.740 --> 01:56:50.740]  Yeah, the Dan Meter material?
[01:56:50.740 --> 01:56:51.740]  Yes, yes.
[01:56:51.740 --> 01:56:52.740]  Yeah, I actually have that.
[01:56:52.740 --> 01:56:57.740]  I've been a very big avid reader of Dan Meter's material for years.
[01:56:57.740 --> 01:57:07.740]  Yeah, I had the honor of knowing Dan personally, so very astute person.
[01:57:07.740 --> 01:57:11.740]  It's a sad that he passed away a few years ago.
[01:57:11.740 --> 01:57:14.740]  Well, I guess that's it, guys.
[01:57:14.740 --> 01:57:20.740]  I really, again, appreciate your show and enjoy the, enjoy the information that's being
[01:57:20.740 --> 01:57:21.740]  shared.
[01:57:21.740 --> 01:57:27.740]  What I really appreciate is it's so hard, the corruption of the court system and the
[01:57:27.740 --> 01:57:34.740]  judges, you know, you shouldn't have to take everything up on appeal, but you have to
[01:57:34.740 --> 01:57:37.740]  prepare it like you're going to take it up on appeal.
[01:57:37.740 --> 01:57:43.740]  And so when it comes to the political side, this is kind of a new area that I'm very
[01:57:43.740 --> 01:57:48.740]  interested in because it seems like that's the only time that you can get a win at the
[01:57:48.740 --> 01:57:57.740]  lower court level is to make it where it's to their best advantage to rule in your favor.
[01:57:57.740 --> 01:58:00.740]  Yeah, to get rid of it entirely.
[01:58:00.740 --> 01:58:08.740]  Yeah, they want it out, and if you can make it cost more for them than what it's worth,
[01:58:08.740 --> 01:58:10.740]  then they're not interested.
[01:58:10.740 --> 01:58:12.740]  It's all about the money.
[01:58:12.740 --> 01:58:15.740]  It's absolutely all about the money.
[01:58:15.740 --> 01:58:16.740]  That part's true.
[01:58:16.740 --> 01:58:17.740]  Anything else, Mark?
[01:58:17.740 --> 01:58:18.740]  No, thanks again.
[01:58:18.740 --> 01:58:21.740]  I hope you guys have a great night, and I'll continue to listen.
[01:58:21.740 --> 01:58:22.740]  All right, Mark.
[01:58:22.740 --> 01:58:23.740]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:58:23.740 --> 01:58:24.740]  We appreciate it greatly.
[01:58:24.740 --> 01:58:28.740]  All right, folks, we're about to go to our mid-show break.
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