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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.360]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.360 --> 00:08.480]  Financial markets piled pressure on troubled eurozone countries on Monday as investors
[00:08.480 --> 00:12.160]  worried about heightened risks in Spain, Greece and Italy.
[00:12.160 --> 00:17.200]  Spain's socialist election loss raised fears of potential clashes over deficit curves between
[00:17.200 --> 00:21.760]  the central and local governments as Madrid fights to avoid having to seek a bailout.
[00:21.760 --> 00:27.840]  The euro fell below a key support level at $1.40 before stabilizing.
[00:27.840 --> 00:33.840]  Pakistani opposition leader Emron Khan said Saturday the U.S.'s war on terror is breeding
[00:33.840 --> 00:39.640]  extremism and terrorism and termed U.S. drone attacks in the tribal regions a breach of
[00:39.640 --> 00:40.640]  the country's sovereignty.
[00:40.640 --> 00:46.080]  Khan, a former cricket star, led massive rallies over the weekend in Karachi against the drone
[00:46.080 --> 00:47.080]  strikes.
[00:47.080 --> 00:54.080]  The U.S. claims the strikes target militants, but more than 90% of those killed are civilians.
[00:54.080 --> 00:58.840]  Smoking in New York City's 1,700 parks, beaches, boardwalks, pools, public golf courses and
[00:58.840 --> 01:03.960]  pedestrian plazas became illegal on Monday under a new law signed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
[01:03.960 --> 01:08.640]  The ban is part of efforts to reduce the effects of secondhand smoke and the impact of cigarette
[01:08.640 --> 01:09.960]  litter on the environment.
[01:09.960 --> 01:14.760]  Violators in the new law would be subject to a $50 fine.
[01:14.760 --> 01:20.760]  Yemeni President Ali Abdul Saleh refused a deal to step down Sunday that would have given
[01:20.760 --> 01:22.960]  him immunity from prosecution.
[01:22.960 --> 01:28.520]  Saleh unleashed hundreds of armed loyalists into the streets of Sanaa Sunday in an orchestrated
[01:28.520 --> 01:31.960]  campaign to demand he remain in power.
[01:31.960 --> 01:37.400]  Loyalist gunmen trapped Western and Arab diplomats in the United Arab Emirates embassy for hours
[01:37.400 --> 01:42.800]  on Sunday and blocked mediators from heading to the presidential palace to secure Saleh's
[01:42.800 --> 01:44.400]  signature on the deal.
[01:44.400 --> 01:49.320]  Inside the embassy were the head of the Gulf Cooperation Council as well as the U.S. and
[01:49.320 --> 01:53.800]  several European ambassadors who were later flown out by helicopter.
[01:53.800 --> 01:59.680]  The U.S. and Saudi Arabia are keen to end the Yemeni stalemate and avert a spread of anarchy
[01:59.680 --> 02:06.080]  that they claim would give Islamic militants more room to operate.
[02:06.080 --> 02:10.000]  Demonstrators in Spain plan to extend protests against their government's austerity measures
[02:10.000 --> 02:13.800]  and major political parties in the wake of Sunday's regional elections.
[02:13.800 --> 02:19.040]  In a show of hands vote at the makeshift camp in Madrid's central port of Del Sol Square,
[02:19.040 --> 02:22.960]  protesters indicated that they plan to stay at least until May 29th.
[02:22.960 --> 02:27.560]  Tens of thousands of Spaniards demonstrated this past week in city squares across the
[02:27.560 --> 02:30.880]  country in what has been dubbed the Spanish Revolution.
[02:30.880 --> 02:35.000]  Observers say the autonomous arena of Puerto Del Sol bears an uncanny resemblance to Tahrir
[02:35.000 --> 02:39.880]  Square in Cairo which was occupied in February during the revolution that led to the ouster
[02:39.880 --> 02:42.120]  of dictator Hosni Mubarak.
[02:42.120 --> 02:47.040]  Protesters boycotted Sunday's elections and the governing socialists suffered major losses.
[02:47.040 --> 02:54.040]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[03:17.040 --> 03:24.600]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[03:47.040 --> 03:54.600]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[04:17.040 --> 04:25.040]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[04:47.040 --> 04:54.040]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[05:17.040 --> 05:25.040]  Spain's unemployment is the highest in the eurozone at 21 percent.
[05:47.040 --> 05:51.720]  You are most welcome to come and participate.
[05:51.720 --> 05:58.600]  Right now we've got four groups of people and one of them only has two people instead
[05:58.600 --> 06:04.400]  of the four in it, so we've got room to add to the class if we need to.
[06:04.400 --> 06:11.400]  There will be a weekly rotation, we've got each group going in succession, that two weeks
[06:11.400 --> 06:18.400]  prior to their presentation is when they will be given their issue.
[06:18.400 --> 06:24.440]  I will be acting as the magistrate and judge in these presentations.
[06:24.440 --> 06:29.240]  They will have to convince me, one, that they can prove a defendant guilty and the defendant
[06:29.240 --> 06:33.720]  is going to have to prove that they can defend themselves.
[06:33.720 --> 06:38.120]  It's time for some hands on practical application.
[06:38.120 --> 06:46.440]  I have taught theory, I have taught statute, I have taught procedure and it does not seem
[06:46.440 --> 06:49.960]  to be sinking in through repetition alone.
[06:49.960 --> 06:55.420]  So it is time to make some hands on application available.
[06:55.420 --> 06:56.840]  This is it.
[06:56.840 --> 07:02.200]  The majority of our classes beginning not this Sunday but the following Sunday is when
[07:02.200 --> 07:10.880]  the first presentation will be given by group one, but every class will be a presentation
[07:10.880 --> 07:13.800]  participation class.
[07:13.800 --> 07:19.320]  If you come in at this point, you would be assigned to a group, you would be given tasks
[07:19.320 --> 07:26.200]  to work on and information on what to do by those in your group.
[07:26.200 --> 07:32.600]  Then after we go through one rotation, we will have an open day where we go back to
[07:32.600 --> 07:37.600]  okay, here's what's changed, just in case we've got any statutory revisions or anything
[07:37.600 --> 07:46.080]  we need to integrate, any information that's been refined so to speak in order to be integrated
[07:46.080 --> 07:52.120]  into the class to give us better tools, bigger tools, however you want to put it, so that
[07:52.120 --> 07:59.400]  we can continue to expand our knowledge and our ability to take the task back to those
[07:59.400 --> 08:02.200]  that we need to take it to.
[08:02.200 --> 08:10.320]  Now we are going to be discussing and acting upon real world issues.
[08:10.320 --> 08:14.880]  Nobody will be getting the same case, no one will be getting a case that's exactly like
[08:14.880 --> 08:19.680]  something they've already had if I can help it.
[08:19.680 --> 08:27.480]  I'm going to force these folks to learn this process.
[08:27.480 --> 08:33.760]  It's enough that it needs to be done and so here we go.
[08:33.760 --> 08:37.520]  So if you're out there listening and you're within traveling distance of Austin for these
[08:37.520 --> 08:43.640]  once a week classes, this is where you need to get into the fight.
[08:43.640 --> 08:48.800]  One of the things I explained to them this past Sunday, this is my goal.
[08:48.800 --> 08:56.000]  I am not doing these seminars to teach you how to fight your one little traffic ticket.
[08:56.000 --> 09:01.280]  If that's the only reason you want to come to class, I'm not going to be able to help
[09:01.280 --> 09:02.280]  you.
[09:02.280 --> 09:10.640]  My task, the way I see it, is to build a group of people that are willing to take this task
[09:10.640 --> 09:20.120]  to the end and that task is to eradicate this entire driver's licensing, private property
[09:20.120 --> 09:29.760]  registration, money stealing scheme the states have put in place to illegally tax the public
[09:29.760 --> 09:35.880]  without having to pass a taxing revision to the Constitution.
[09:35.880 --> 09:41.960]  Because when you get right down to it, that's all this is about, how to increase revenue
[09:41.960 --> 09:45.280]  and not call it a tax.
[09:45.280 --> 09:55.320]  That's what it is, it is theft, it is extortion, it is illegal in the utmost.
[09:55.320 --> 10:01.520]  They are trying to involve everybody in a commercial enterprise and make them liable
[10:01.520 --> 10:07.400]  under commercial provisions when they have nothing to do with them.
[10:07.400 --> 10:13.400]  And I'm sick of it, I'm tired of it, it's time to put an end to this whatever you want
[10:13.400 --> 10:15.160]  to call it.
[10:15.160 --> 10:21.800]  But this class is going to be dedicated to training people to take that fight back to
[10:21.800 --> 10:27.960]  the cities, to the cops, to the judges, to the prosecutors.
[10:27.960 --> 10:35.360]  We're going to set this up to frame these issues headed directly to the appeals courts
[10:35.360 --> 10:44.680]  in the states and the federal courts under 1983 and 242 actions under Title 18.
[10:44.680 --> 10:51.320]  We're going to win this fight if it kills me and it very well may, which is the reason
[10:51.320 --> 10:54.480]  why I need replacements.
[10:54.480 --> 11:03.440]  So folks, if you ever wanted to do something rather than just talk about it, here it is.
[11:03.440 --> 11:13.680]  This is going to be what you need because I honestly feel this is one of the linchpin
[11:13.680 --> 11:21.440]  points they use to control the general public and the people entirely.
[11:21.440 --> 11:25.680]  They have restricted our right to liberty, they have restricted our right to the use
[11:25.680 --> 11:30.800]  of our property, they have restricted our ability to go when and where we please, how
[11:30.800 --> 11:39.000]  we please, and they have done it without any consideration for the effect upon our right
[11:39.000 --> 11:46.600]  to liberty and our right to the use of our property, much less our right to be free from
[11:46.600 --> 11:50.160]  unjust and illegal taxation.
[11:50.160 --> 11:54.640]  So folks, that's the objective.
[11:54.640 --> 12:01.360]  If that's beyond your scope, then as much as I hate to say it, I wish I could help you
[12:01.360 --> 12:08.600]  and I will help you where I can, but I cannot dedicate my time and effort to individual
[12:08.600 --> 12:11.000]  fights anymore.
[12:11.000 --> 12:17.000]  There's not enough of me to go around, there's not enough hours in the day.
[12:17.000 --> 12:19.440]  I kind of want you to think of it like this.
[12:19.440 --> 12:22.640]  There's two analogies we can use here.
[12:22.640 --> 12:28.400]  Let's take one and just say, let's presume for just a minute that you've always wanted
[12:28.400 --> 12:33.280]  to play the leading role in a Shakespearean play.
[12:33.280 --> 12:37.120]  You audition and you get the part.
[12:37.120 --> 12:43.960]  You're given your lines, you're told when the show date's going to be, you know that
[12:43.960 --> 12:48.600]  you need to be reading and studying and learning those lines and committing them to memory
[12:48.600 --> 12:54.400]  and you need to be rehearsing with the other actors that have their parts to play so that
[12:54.400 --> 12:58.600]  comes the day of the show, you're ready.
[12:58.600 --> 13:05.560]  But instead, you go home and play Xbox till the day before the show.
[13:05.560 --> 13:12.600]  Now opening night rolls around, the play is in tatters.
[13:12.600 --> 13:17.760]  You don't know your lines, you don't know your cues, you don't know what you're doing
[13:17.760 --> 13:26.240]  because you didn't show up for a single rehearsal, you didn't bother to learn a single line.
[13:26.240 --> 13:32.400]  What kind of play does the general public think they're watching now?
[13:32.400 --> 13:37.520]  I guarantee you a rave review is not forthcoming.
[13:37.520 --> 13:44.320]  I guarantee you that your lack of effort to put on a good performance is going to guarantee
[13:44.320 --> 13:49.240]  that this is a one night show.
[13:49.240 --> 13:55.320]  I guarantee you that the people that come to see that show will leave it telling everyone
[13:55.320 --> 14:00.800]  else just how bad the show was and don't even bother to waste your time.
[14:00.800 --> 14:03.240]  They're going to want their money back.
[14:03.240 --> 14:05.400]  Exactly.
[14:05.400 --> 14:12.560]  Now what I want you to think about is this, everyone else in the show did their best.
[14:12.560 --> 14:18.640]  Everyone else took the time and effort to learn their part and to do a good job.
[14:18.640 --> 14:26.280]  But because you, the starring actor, did not do yours, everybody suffered.
[14:26.280 --> 14:33.800]  The people that vested their time and effort into making that production happen just lost
[14:33.800 --> 14:40.080]  the shirt off their back and they will never, ever risk making another one.
[14:40.080 --> 14:45.360]  The people that knew about the play will never, ever recommend that someone else come to watch
[14:45.360 --> 14:47.720]  it.
[14:47.720 --> 14:54.520]  That folks is my greatest fear because I know that what we teach in this class, what I teach
[14:54.520 --> 14:57.300]  in this class has value.
[14:57.300 --> 14:59.420]  It has application.
[14:59.420 --> 15:06.480]  It has perfect proper use for what we're doing.
[15:06.480 --> 15:12.840]  But when we get bad reviews because you do not take it and learn your part to do it when
[15:12.840 --> 15:20.520]  you go to court and everybody is told that you are the starring actor and you were trained
[15:20.520 --> 15:29.040]  to for this part by this class and then they see how badly you do, guess what they're not
[15:29.040 --> 15:32.760]  going to want to attend.
[15:32.760 --> 15:38.880]  It's going to be real hard to get people to come to this class and join in this fight
[15:38.880 --> 15:45.360]  if they think what they're being taught will not do them any good.
[15:45.360 --> 15:50.920]  If what they're being taught will get them in more trouble or ensure that they lose in
[15:50.920 --> 15:57.120]  a way they cannot recover from, why would they make the time, effort and the money to
[15:57.120 --> 16:00.880]  come down and learn what they need?
[16:00.880 --> 16:05.040]  But now they think they don't because it didn't work.
[16:05.040 --> 16:08.280]  And the thing is there was nothing wrong with the lines.
[16:08.280 --> 16:10.920]  There was nothing wrong with the script.
[16:10.920 --> 16:13.160]  There was nothing wrong with the props.
[16:13.160 --> 16:16.440]  There was nothing wrong with the other actors.
[16:16.440 --> 16:23.080]  Just you the star didn't do your job and it cost everybody.
[16:23.080 --> 16:25.200]  That's my fear.
[16:25.200 --> 16:27.880]  That's my issue.
[16:27.880 --> 16:34.400]  So in order to make sure that doesn't happen the dynamic had to change.
[16:34.400 --> 16:39.200]  So individual issues I'll be more than happy to talk to or talk to those issues on the
[16:39.200 --> 16:40.200]  show.
[16:40.200 --> 16:42.960]  I'll talk to you by email.
[16:42.960 --> 16:48.020]  But you either need to be in the classes learning how to do this right or it's time to learn
[16:48.020 --> 16:50.000]  it on your own like I had to.
[16:50.000 --> 16:55.640]  All right this is Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984 is the call in number.
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[19:00.240 --> 19:20.560]  All right, folks.
[19:20.560 --> 19:21.560]  We are back.
[19:21.560 --> 19:27.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984 is the call in numbers.
[19:27.560 --> 19:31.160]  We do have some callers up on the board, so we're going to go ahead and start taking calls
[19:31.160 --> 19:32.160]  now.
[19:32.160 --> 19:34.680]  Right now, we are going to go to Alex in Texas.
[19:34.680 --> 19:35.680]  Good evening, Alex.
[19:35.680 --> 19:36.680]  What can we do for you?
[19:36.680 --> 19:37.680]  How are you doing, Eddie?
[19:37.680 --> 19:43.560]  Let me first off by saying that I greatly appreciate your show and everything that everyone
[19:43.560 --> 19:45.560]  there at Rule of Law Radio is doing.
[19:45.560 --> 19:50.240]  I got turned on egos by Alex Jones, and I love every... I'm addicted to your show,
[19:50.240 --> 19:53.240]  and I appreciate everything you do.
[19:53.240 --> 19:54.240]  What's your name?
[19:54.240 --> 20:02.160]  First of all, note here, I'm calling because I have, myself, multiple tickets regarding
[20:02.160 --> 20:08.080]  to permits, lack of registration, lack of insurance, and a lack of a title.
[20:08.080 --> 20:11.680]  I had a project car when I met my wife that I had.
[20:11.680 --> 20:17.520]  I was forced to drive to go to and from to meet her, and been in a small town called
[20:17.520 --> 20:21.280]  Shenandoah just north of the Woodlands here in Houston.
[20:21.280 --> 20:26.640]  They like condos, and needless to say, I was very busy at the time, and I could not make
[20:26.640 --> 20:31.760]  my court appearances, so I have one failure to appear on there, and I'm sure I have a
[20:31.760 --> 20:36.680]  couple of warrants out from these various tickets.
[20:36.680 --> 20:43.920]  Now, that being said, I don't know if there's any way to go, because I would love to use
[20:43.920 --> 20:48.600]  the methods that you guys preach there to just burn these guys in court.
[20:48.600 --> 20:54.360]  I'm not just getting to file a judicial conduct complaint and bar-grief somebody, but I don't
[20:54.360 --> 20:58.640]  know if I have the option, and I don't know how to go about it, and I apologize, but I
[20:58.640 --> 21:04.360]  haven't been able to afford your seminars, or I would buy it right now, and I'd donate
[21:04.360 --> 21:07.760]  as much money as I have to you, but I am not available right now to do it, so I'm trying
[21:07.760 --> 21:11.560]  to learn as much as I can from your show.
[21:11.560 --> 21:16.360]  I can appreciate the financial difficulties, been there, done that, and can't say we'll
[21:16.360 --> 21:19.400]  ever not have them.
[21:19.400 --> 21:24.600]  Be that as it may, if you have outstanding warrants, right now, there is only one way
[21:24.600 --> 21:29.400]  I know of to nullify that warrant, and that is to appear before the magistrate who is
[21:29.400 --> 21:33.680]  going to make you post a bond for whatever the amounts are on the outstanding warrant
[21:33.680 --> 21:34.680]  and tickets.
[21:34.680 --> 21:36.680]  Yes, sir.
[21:36.680 --> 21:44.280]  Now, if you use a bondsman to post that, be sure that the money you give the bondsman
[21:44.280 --> 21:53.520]  is money you can afford to lose, because you will not get it back, but that's a better
[21:53.520 --> 22:00.400]  alternative than having to post the entire bond with the court yourself if it's substantial.
[22:00.400 --> 22:07.400]  Now, I can tell you that the research I've done on the failure to maintain financial
[22:07.400 --> 22:14.720]  responsibility statutes, there's a very, very good chance we can shoot that charge dead
[22:14.720 --> 22:17.920]  right between its eyes.
[22:17.920 --> 22:25.760]  The way the statute is written, it has a severe problem of denial of due process in that it
[22:25.760 --> 22:33.240]  requires the individual to waive their Fifth Amendment protections and incriminate themselves,
[22:33.240 --> 22:39.280]  and then it requires that the defendant take on the burden of proof to prove that they
[22:39.280 --> 22:44.400]  are innocent rather than the prosecution proving they are guilty.
[22:44.400 --> 22:45.680]  Yes, sir.
[22:45.680 --> 22:49.620]  There are two issues with the failure to maintain financial responsibility.
[22:49.620 --> 23:00.640]  You can look that up in 601.053, Subsection A and Subsection B of that section.
[23:00.640 --> 23:06.600]  You read those, you re-read those, you read them again, and it should become very clear
[23:06.600 --> 23:10.760]  that that's exactly what that statute does in those two sections.
[23:10.760 --> 23:17.120]  Yes, sir, and I've looked at those, and I completely agree with you on the Fifth Amendment
[23:17.120 --> 23:18.120]  violation.
[23:18.120 --> 23:20.720]  It seems pretty obvious on its face.
[23:20.720 --> 23:25.480]  Well, the good issue here is that it doesn't just violate Fifth Amendment.
[23:25.480 --> 23:29.480]  It actually violates specific Texas law.
[23:29.480 --> 23:36.440]  The Code of Criminal Procedure says two things, that a defendant cannot be compelled to provide
[23:36.440 --> 23:41.320]  evidence or testimony against themselves, and that statute does that.
[23:41.320 --> 23:50.120]  The Code of Criminal Procedure says that all defendants are to be presumed innocent, and
[23:50.120 --> 23:54.400]  that's exactly what that statute does not do.
[23:54.400 --> 24:01.040]  It declares you guilty and requires you to prove you are innocent, a complete reversal
[24:01.040 --> 24:04.960]  of the requirements of due process.
[24:04.960 --> 24:12.320]  So then, presuming that, and I understand those statements, how would I go about presenting
[24:12.320 --> 24:15.980]  that to the court in my defense?
[24:15.980 --> 24:22.300]  You do it through a motion to quash the complaint for that particular charge, and you make those
[24:22.300 --> 24:24.880]  arguments in your motion to quash.
[24:24.880 --> 24:27.160]  All right, all right.
[24:27.160 --> 24:29.000]  I've already written that motion.
[24:29.000 --> 24:31.160]  That motion's already in the seminar material.
[24:31.160 --> 24:35.440]  Yeah, I saw that one on the site, and I was wondering if that was the one to use, and
[24:35.440 --> 24:36.440]  that answers my question.
[24:36.440 --> 24:37.440]  Thank you very much.
[24:37.440 --> 24:39.440]  Now, I have one other very brief question.
[24:39.440 --> 24:44.080]  I have a friend who recently got a ticket drive in between Houston and Waco, a small
[24:44.080 --> 24:45.080]  town.
[24:45.080 --> 24:48.520]  Okay, first thing, Alex, let's work on terminology.
[24:48.520 --> 24:49.520]  All right.
[24:49.520 --> 24:56.000]  The more you use their terms, the worse you're going to make it for yourself.
[24:56.000 --> 24:57.640]  You do not drive.
[24:57.640 --> 24:59.680]  You do not operate.
[24:59.680 --> 25:03.360]  You travel behind the wheel of an automobile.
[25:03.360 --> 25:04.360]  Got it?
[25:04.360 --> 25:05.360]  Yes, sir.
[25:05.360 --> 25:06.360]  All right.
[25:06.360 --> 25:07.360]  Continue, please.
[25:07.360 --> 25:14.760]  My friend was traveling between Houston and Waco, and he received a citation in Buchholz
[25:14.760 --> 25:21.000]  in between driving reportedly... There's that word again.
[25:21.000 --> 25:22.000]  Sorry.
[25:22.000 --> 25:28.720]  He was traveling, and he was recorded by radar and video doing 77 miles an hour in a 55-mile-an-hour
[25:28.720 --> 25:29.720]  zone.
[25:29.720 --> 25:36.160]  Now, I have photocopies of this citation, and I will be emailing them to you, post-tax,
[25:36.160 --> 25:41.600]  because I didn't have the time, but however, on this citation, he was required to sign
[25:41.600 --> 25:47.840]  on a digital pad, and it transcribed his signature onto the copy of the citation that the police
[25:47.840 --> 25:50.520]  officer had in his possession.
[25:50.520 --> 25:57.440]  Now, the copy that he got for his possession, for his court records, have no signature either
[25:57.440 --> 26:01.720]  from himself or the police officer on the citation.
[26:01.720 --> 26:06.720]  On top of that, there is no statute, no city ordinance, nothing on the citation.
[26:06.720 --> 26:12.800]  It just merely says, speeding as the premeditation of the vehicle in question.
[26:12.800 --> 26:15.840]  The citation does not have to list the statute.
[26:15.840 --> 26:20.120]  The complaint should, and the charging instrument absolutely must.
[26:20.120 --> 26:22.960]  Now, was this a municipal cop?
[26:22.960 --> 26:25.000]  Yes, sir.
[26:25.000 --> 26:26.000]  Okay.
[26:26.000 --> 26:31.520]  Then you will never, ever see an information, which is a due process violation and a violation
[26:31.520 --> 26:33.160]  of the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[26:33.160 --> 26:34.160]  Perfect.
[26:34.160 --> 26:42.600]  Again, those motions to quash or dismiss complaints or the case are in the seminar material, folks.
[26:42.600 --> 26:45.160]  Believe me, this is not my first rodeo with these issues.
[26:45.160 --> 26:50.120]  I worked my behind off to keep these documents up to date for you guys, so that if you buy
[26:50.120 --> 26:54.640]  the seminar, you don't ever have to worry about whether or not it matches current law
[26:54.640 --> 26:58.000]  here in Texas, because it always will, as long as I breathe it.
[26:58.000 --> 26:59.000]  All right.
[26:59.000 --> 27:05.280]  As I understand it, I shouldn't need to even use transportation code 201.904.
[27:05.280 --> 27:06.280]  That should never even come up.
[27:06.280 --> 27:09.280]  I should squash the citation.
[27:09.280 --> 27:16.400]  You always move to quash the citation or the complaint and the base citation and everything
[27:16.400 --> 27:18.800]  else on proper grounds.
[27:18.800 --> 27:22.000]  The issue is making proper grounds.
[27:22.000 --> 27:30.200]  The very first argument is always, what act of transportation are you asserting the defendant
[27:30.200 --> 27:33.680]  was engaged in at the time of this stop?
[27:33.680 --> 27:39.440]  Because without an act of transportation, the rules in the transportation code cannot
[27:39.440 --> 27:41.240]  and do not apply.
[27:41.240 --> 27:42.240]  Great.
[27:42.240 --> 27:43.240]  Okay.
[27:43.240 --> 27:44.240]  Now.
[27:44.240 --> 27:45.240]  One other issue, though.
[27:45.240 --> 27:46.240]  Okay.
[27:46.240 --> 27:47.240]  Go ahead.
[27:47.240 --> 27:51.440]  My friend, he's a resident of Orange County, California.
[27:51.440 --> 27:52.440]  He was out here for work.
[27:52.440 --> 27:58.400]  Now, is there any way that either I or someone else can represent him in court without him
[27:58.400 --> 27:59.400]  physically being there?
[27:59.400 --> 28:01.960]  Is there a motion I should file to that effect?
[28:01.960 --> 28:04.960]  No, you cannot.
[28:04.960 --> 28:13.680]  He may be able to have legal counsel, but he is required to be present at the initial
[28:13.680 --> 28:16.960]  appearance as a matter of law.
[28:16.960 --> 28:22.440]  He must be present at the initial appearance.
[28:22.440 --> 28:23.440]  No matter what.
[28:23.440 --> 28:27.720]  However... I'm sorry, say again?
[28:27.720 --> 28:30.600]  The reason why I ask on top of this, I assumed is much.
[28:30.600 --> 28:35.120]  However, he was also given a document that he could mail in, but it seems like this town
[28:35.120 --> 28:39.520]  deals with this a lot, that he could mail in that would request a trial by jury.
[28:39.520 --> 28:45.120]  He could either admit to a pay-to-fine or one of his options was a trial by jury.
[28:45.120 --> 28:48.640]  I request that, and he could respectfully mail that in to the...
[28:48.640 --> 28:54.280]  Right, in which case he is waiving all of the other appearances that the law requires
[28:54.280 --> 28:56.640]  them to have on his behalf.
[28:56.640 --> 29:02.720]  By doing that, he is waiving some very important due process procedural rights.
[29:02.720 --> 29:06.600]  I figured as much.
[29:06.600 --> 29:14.160]  Okay, remember, you do not ever sign a piece of paper they give you unless you're cutting
[29:14.160 --> 29:15.360]  a deal.
[29:15.360 --> 29:19.800]  Do not sign their paperwork.
[29:19.800 --> 29:27.560]  Do not sign the little digital pads in the clerk's office, because here in Austin, they
[29:27.560 --> 29:33.400]  take that electronic signature and they stamp it on all kinds of paperwork you've never
[29:33.400 --> 29:37.520]  seen that has statements on it you never agreed to.
[29:37.520 --> 29:40.480]  I heard that show, that was very good.
[29:40.480 --> 29:44.440]  Okay, but hang on just a minute, Alex, we're going to go to break and we'll finish up with
[29:44.440 --> 29:45.440]  you on the other side.
[29:45.440 --> 29:46.440]  Thank you.
[29:46.440 --> 29:51.840]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[29:51.840 --> 29:56.120]  If you got an issue, question, or just want to tell us a story, give us a call.
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[31:57.640 --> 32:12.080]  Yeah, I got that warrant, and I'm going to solve them to the head government then prosecute
[32:12.080 --> 32:13.080]  them.
[32:13.080 --> 32:14.080]  Okay.
[32:14.080 --> 32:16.440]  All right, folks.
[32:16.440 --> 32:17.440]  We are back.
[32:17.440 --> 32:18.440]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[32:18.440 --> 32:21.880]  Right now, we are on the line with Alex, Vangeline, and Linda.
[32:21.880 --> 32:25.280]  We do see you on the board, so please hang in there for just another couple of minutes
[32:25.280 --> 32:26.280]  and I'll be right with you.
[32:26.280 --> 32:27.280]  All right, Alex.
[32:27.280 --> 32:29.360]  Let's see if we can get you wrapped up here.
[32:29.360 --> 32:30.360]  All right.
[32:30.360 --> 32:33.800]  The last question that I had, obviously, the insurance one.
[32:33.800 --> 32:37.080]  The insurance you've helped me deal with, and I'll deal with that as best I can.
[32:37.080 --> 32:40.800]  Also, the warrants, I'll deal with the monitoring for that as appropriate.
[32:40.800 --> 32:45.840]  Now, with the registration and the fact that I was driving an untitled vehicle, how do
[32:45.840 --> 32:46.840]  I play that?
[32:46.840 --> 32:47.840]  Sorry.
[32:47.840 --> 32:50.360]  I'm playing in an untitled vehicle.
[32:50.360 --> 32:51.360]  Yeah.
[32:51.360 --> 32:59.840]  Well, the first thing is where is the actual offense for untitled vehicle?
[32:59.840 --> 33:04.440]  To be honest with you, I don't know, sir, and I don't even own the vehicle anymore.
[33:04.440 --> 33:10.280]  That's cause, one, it's not a vehicle to be applicable to that statute.
[33:10.280 --> 33:17.200]  Two, I don't believe that I've ever read any such offense in the statute.
[33:17.200 --> 33:24.700]  In order to title a vehicle, it must be required to be a certificate of title, and the transportation
[33:24.700 --> 33:27.840]  code must apply to it as such.
[33:27.840 --> 33:31.600]  Read 501.004.
[33:31.600 --> 33:37.860]  It tells you exactly what a certificate of title applies to, and a private automobile
[33:37.860 --> 33:41.200]  is not in the list.
[33:41.200 --> 33:43.280]  Awesome.
[33:43.280 --> 33:51.000]  It applies, according to that section, only to motor vehicles owned by the state or political
[33:51.000 --> 33:53.640]  subdivision of the state.
[33:53.640 --> 33:54.640]  Understood.
[33:54.640 --> 33:57.280]  How about registered?
[33:57.280 --> 33:58.280]  Okay.
[33:58.280 --> 34:03.200]  Well, if it's not titled, it can't be registered, can it?
[34:03.200 --> 34:04.200]  Awesome.
[34:04.200 --> 34:07.200]  That's what I want to hear.
[34:07.200 --> 34:08.200]  All right.
[34:08.200 --> 34:09.200]  I can fight that one then.
[34:09.200 --> 34:10.200]  Okay.
[34:10.200 --> 34:11.200]  Well, then-
[34:11.200 --> 34:12.200]  Now, how old is this automobile?
[34:12.200 --> 34:21.400]  And remember, vehicle, motor vehicle, commercial motor vehicle, not terms that you use or apply
[34:21.400 --> 34:22.960]  to anything you're in.
[34:22.960 --> 34:27.760]  So then what do I call it?
[34:27.760 --> 34:31.200]  About personal conveyance or automobile.
[34:31.200 --> 34:32.200]  Works for me.
[34:32.200 --> 34:36.040]  My personal conveyance was in 1994, Honda Civic.
[34:36.040 --> 34:37.040]  Okay.
[34:37.040 --> 34:42.520]  Well, actually, it just rolled over the 20s, so it can be declared an antique.
[34:42.520 --> 34:43.520]  Awesome.
[34:43.520 --> 34:50.800]  So if you're fixing it up, the statutes are also very clear that that car is not required
[34:50.800 --> 34:57.640]  to be registered as long as you make the argument that you only drive it to and from locations
[34:57.640 --> 34:59.440]  for the purpose of show.
[34:59.440 --> 35:04.440]  So you drove it there to show it to your girlfriend, then you drove it there the next week to show
[35:04.440 --> 35:07.520]  it to her boss, then you drove it there the next week to show it to everybody else.
[35:07.520 --> 35:15.360]  And believe it or not, as per my ignorance at the time, I was pulled over without any
[35:15.360 --> 35:16.360]  cause.
[35:16.360 --> 35:21.280]  I was doing a speed limit, and the officer came seven lanes across the freeway to pull
[35:21.280 --> 35:24.720]  me over the second time.
[35:24.720 --> 35:28.560]  And I tried the argument of, is there a problem, officer?
[35:28.560 --> 35:30.160]  What reason have you pulled me over?
[35:30.160 --> 35:35.680]  I tried this dance for about 15 minutes, and I actually tried that with him, that I wasn't
[35:35.680 --> 35:41.640]  using this for transportation, and why was he trying to get me for this?
[35:41.640 --> 35:43.360]  And he just wasn't having it.
[35:43.360 --> 35:46.240]  And I know we're not supposed to hold court on the side of the road, and I know this even
[35:46.240 --> 35:52.280]  further now, but apparently these police officers, they really don't care.
[35:52.280 --> 35:55.520]  Well, ignorant people never do care.
[35:55.520 --> 36:00.880]  And the fact is, these guys wish to remain willfully ignorant.
[36:00.880 --> 36:05.640]  That's exactly why I don't have any pity for them when I come down on them like a ton of
[36:05.640 --> 36:06.640]  bricks.
[36:06.640 --> 36:07.640]  Yeah, that's right.
[36:07.640 --> 36:08.640]  When Eddie and I-
[36:08.640 --> 36:10.000]  They chose to remain ignorant.
[36:10.000 --> 36:14.640]  When Eddie and I were at a restaurant a couple of months ago, there were two police officers
[36:14.640 --> 36:21.000]  in there, and he went over there and tried to give them free copy of his seminar book,
[36:21.000 --> 36:26.520]  and Eddie said that one of the police officers said, I don't want to take that because I
[36:26.520 --> 36:28.560]  don't want to get confused.
[36:28.560 --> 36:33.120]  I don't want to get what I'm supposed to know confused with what I ought to know.
[36:33.120 --> 36:38.920]  Do you mean he doesn't want to be a tax collector, or he wants to remain a tax collector?
[36:38.920 --> 36:45.720]  Yeah, he didn't want to be confused by learning what he was supposed to know in opposition
[36:45.720 --> 36:47.160]  to what he ought to know.
[36:47.160 --> 36:51.320]  In other words, the policy, the way they're trained.
[36:51.320 --> 36:53.840]  Well, don't confuse me with the truth.
[36:53.840 --> 36:54.840]  Yeah, exactly.
[36:54.840 --> 36:56.600]  That's basically what he was saying.
[36:56.600 --> 36:57.600]  Facts are irrelevant.
[36:57.600 --> 36:58.600]  Apparently so.
[36:58.600 --> 36:59.600]  Well, I appreciate everything.
[36:59.600 --> 37:06.600]  I'll review everything that we've discussed on the archives, and I appreciate that you
[37:06.600 --> 37:10.480]  have them up, and I listen to them faithfully and take notes.
[37:10.480 --> 37:14.520]  So I'll let you get to the other callers, and hopefully I can make everything work.
[37:14.520 --> 37:18.000]  If I have any problems, I'll email you with further questions.
[37:18.000 --> 37:19.280]  Thank you very much to both of you.
[37:19.280 --> 37:20.280]  All right.
[37:20.280 --> 37:21.280]  Thanks.
[37:21.280 --> 37:22.280]  You're welcome, Alex.
[37:22.280 --> 37:23.280]  Thanks for calling in.
[37:23.280 --> 37:24.280]  Thank you.
[37:24.280 --> 37:25.280]  Bye.
[37:25.280 --> 37:26.280]  Bye-bye.
[37:26.280 --> 37:27.280]  All right.
[37:27.280 --> 37:28.280]  Let's go to Evangeline in Pennsylvania.
[37:28.280 --> 37:29.280]  Hi, Evangeline.
[37:29.280 --> 37:30.280]  What can we do for you?
[37:30.280 --> 37:31.280]  Hi, guys.
[37:31.280 --> 37:32.280]  How are you?
[37:32.280 --> 37:33.280]  Doing good.
[37:33.280 --> 37:34.280]  Is it Lynn or Len?
[37:34.280 --> 37:39.480]  Len is how I say it, but it's fine either way.
[37:39.480 --> 37:45.720]  I had called in a couple of times about I was taking a course in hypnotherapy at the
[37:45.720 --> 37:47.920]  community college, and I found...
[37:47.920 --> 37:48.920]  Yes, ma'am.
[37:48.920 --> 37:49.920]  Recall it well.
[37:49.920 --> 37:50.920]  Okay.
[37:50.920 --> 37:57.840]  I went ahead and wrote a letter of complaint to the college, and it was like five pages,
[37:57.840 --> 38:01.720]  and I detailed in there everything that had happened, and the fact that I had found out
[38:01.720 --> 38:06.400]  that he wasn't credentialed, and that I had brought it to the attention of the executive
[38:06.400 --> 38:12.760]  director of continuing education, and that she didn't seem to be concerned at all.
[38:12.760 --> 38:20.640]  In the complaint, I cited the TA consumer law, which was really very applicable to my
[38:20.640 --> 38:21.640]  situation.
[38:21.640 --> 38:32.440]  It definitely covered their error, and it's what the attorney general uses to prosecute
[38:32.440 --> 38:38.280]  these diploma mill cases, since we don't have a law in Pennsylvania against diploma mills.
[38:38.280 --> 38:50.600]  I included that, and then I told them that I wanted them to terminate their association
[38:50.600 --> 38:56.320]  with this instructor or advertise the course honestly, and that I wanted them to reimburse
[38:56.320 --> 39:01.720]  the veterans organization that had funded the course in full, and that I wanted them
[39:01.720 --> 39:09.960]  to compensate me for my time, and I've listed a bunch of things that had cost me or whatever
[39:09.960 --> 39:19.200]  in the amount of $10,000, and I sent it on the 12th and overnighted it, and they called
[39:19.200 --> 39:27.960]  me, and I told them if I wasn't satisfied within 10 working days that I was going to
[39:27.960 --> 39:34.080]  notify... I was going to take legal action to include a possible QITAM, but I was going
[39:34.080 --> 39:39.800]  to notify the Department of Labor, Middle States, which is the accrediting body that
[39:39.800 --> 39:48.560]  accredits colleges in Pennsylvania and the surrounding area, and that I was going to
[39:48.560 --> 39:57.520]  notify the Department of Labor and the attorney general and the media.
[39:57.520 --> 40:03.120]  I sent this letter to the president of the college, and I got a call from the vice president
[40:03.120 --> 40:09.200]  about six days later, and she said that they had already refunded the veterans organization
[40:09.200 --> 40:16.640]  in full, and that they had also paid the agent who was helping me from that organization
[40:16.640 --> 40:20.360]  the materials fee, because he had actually gone into his own pocket and made a partial
[40:20.360 --> 40:25.640]  payment to the instructor, which is another long story, but they were reimbursing him
[40:25.640 --> 40:34.120]  as well, and that I'm meeting with the vice president tomorrow with my personal grievance,
[40:34.120 --> 40:37.440]  so I was just wondering if you guys had any advice.
[40:37.440 --> 40:41.280]  Well, sounds like you've pretty well got all your bases covered.
[40:41.280 --> 40:45.560]  If you've gone and looked up the laws that make what he did illegal, gives you grounds
[40:45.560 --> 40:49.920]  to go after them, it looks like you've done a very good job for yourself.
[40:49.920 --> 40:52.520]  Yeah, I feel as though I have.
[40:52.520 --> 41:00.880]  I know that the first thing we're going to do tomorrow is take a measure on me, and I
[41:00.880 --> 41:09.280]  wish, in retrospect, I wish I had asked for more than $10,000, because Randy told me to
[41:09.280 --> 41:12.600]  ask for $25,000, and then work my way down or whatever.
[41:12.600 --> 41:16.360]  I don't want to go to court, because I actually have plans to be leaving the country, so I'm
[41:16.360 --> 41:17.360]  trying not to go to court.
[41:17.360 --> 41:18.360]  I'd like to settle.
[41:18.360 --> 41:19.360]  Right.
[41:19.360 --> 41:28.320]  Well, in that case, if you didn't want to have to do the court thing, do not be willing
[41:28.320 --> 41:32.640]  to negotiate downwards, all I can tell you, if you chose a low number so that you had
[41:32.640 --> 41:36.360]  no negotiation room, then don't negotiate.
[41:36.360 --> 41:37.360]  This is the deal.
[41:37.360 --> 41:38.360]  Take it.
[41:38.360 --> 41:39.360]  Leave it, or whatever.
[41:39.360 --> 41:43.000]  Now, do be aware, if they leave it, then the only way you're going to get it is to go to
[41:43.000 --> 41:44.000]  court.
[41:44.000 --> 41:45.000]  Right, yeah.
[41:45.000 --> 41:46.000]  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[41:46.000 --> 41:54.080]  But I think it's really reasonable, when you figure it.
[41:54.080 --> 41:56.920]  Part of my justification is the hours that I put into it, right?
[41:56.920 --> 42:02.840]  I put a bunch of hours of my time, and I'm not employed right now, but if I figured my
[42:02.840 --> 42:11.160]  last hourly rate when I was employed, it comes to, when you multiply that by the number of
[42:11.160 --> 42:16.160]  hours I put into the course, it comes to really close to the $15,000.
[42:16.160 --> 42:18.960]  Well, see, you shot yourself in the foot there.
[42:18.960 --> 42:23.420]  What I would have done, if I'd been in your shoes, was to take what I expected my hourly
[42:23.420 --> 42:30.320]  rate to be by doing the job I was there in the school for, and said, you know what?
[42:30.320 --> 42:36.600]  You cost me the time I would have had actually earning a living with this degree, all the
[42:36.600 --> 42:38.960]  time I spent doing this is wasted.
[42:38.960 --> 42:43.600]  So that's a rate I would have been able to charge, I've got to wait to get.
[42:43.600 --> 42:44.960]  Well, now, wait a minute.
[42:44.960 --> 42:48.680]  You may be able to amend the suit, generally, is this, I don't know.
[42:48.680 --> 42:49.680]  That's not a suit yet.
[42:49.680 --> 42:50.680]  This is her offer to them.
[42:50.680 --> 42:51.680]  This is the letter.
[42:51.680 --> 42:52.680]  Oh, okay.
[42:52.680 --> 42:53.680]  Yeah.
[42:53.680 --> 42:54.680]  Okay.
[42:54.680 --> 42:58.040]  So I could, you know, if I was really going to go to court, I could do whatever I wanted,
[42:58.040 --> 43:03.240]  but I, you know, I mean, I could change my mind, you know, and I actually stipulated
[43:03.240 --> 43:07.960]  that in the letter, that this is what I'm going to, if you meet my demands, then I will
[43:07.960 --> 43:08.960]  call it.
[43:08.960 --> 43:12.360]  But if you make me go to court, then, you know, then, yeah.
[43:12.360 --> 43:16.760]  But I would look at it from that perspective when it comes time to declare money issues.
[43:16.760 --> 43:19.680]  If you do take them to court, I would go that route.
[43:19.680 --> 43:20.680]  Right.
[43:20.680 --> 43:25.920]  Because that's where the harm is, the delay in you getting employment at the rate you
[43:25.920 --> 43:30.680]  would have had because you delayed your ability to get your degree about what they did.
[43:30.680 --> 43:31.680]  Right.
[43:31.680 --> 43:38.880]  Do you think that she'll have an attorney at the meeting?
[43:38.880 --> 43:44.840]  It's entirely possible, but I would not go, well, depending upon what the recording statutes
[43:44.840 --> 43:49.620]  are there, ask them and say, hey, I brought a recorder, is it all right if I record this
[43:49.620 --> 43:52.920]  so that we have a record of everything so we know what's what.
[43:52.920 --> 43:55.800]  But Evangeline, if you can hang on just a minute, we're going to go to break.
[43:55.800 --> 44:00.200]  All right, folks, we'll be right back.
[44:00.200 --> 44:05.120]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so
[44:05.120 --> 44:08.840]  easy and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[44:08.840 --> 44:11.800]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[44:11.800 --> 44:12.800]  Brave New Books?
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[44:20.160 --> 44:23.480]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
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[44:27.960 --> 44:31.880]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[44:31.880 --> 44:35.680]  Oh, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
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[46:03.200 --> 46:17.880]  All right, folks.
[46:17.880 --> 46:18.880]  We are back.
[46:18.880 --> 46:23.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-9284 is the call-in number.
[46:23.560 --> 46:27.800]  If you got any questions or issues, now's the time to get them on the air.
[46:27.800 --> 46:28.800]  All right.
[46:28.800 --> 46:30.920]  Evangeline, let's go ahead and finish up with you.
[46:30.920 --> 46:33.560]  And we do have a special guest on the line, Chris Emory.
[46:33.560 --> 46:35.200]  So Linda, please hang in there.
[46:35.200 --> 46:38.000]  We're going to take Chris when we're done with Evangeline, but I promise I will get
[46:38.000 --> 46:39.520]  to you as quickly as I can.
[46:39.520 --> 46:41.840]  So Evangeline, please go ahead.
[46:41.840 --> 46:45.760]  I just was wondering, other than, I guess, bringing a recording device, which is a good
[46:45.760 --> 46:49.400]  idea, if you had any tips for my meeting with this lady.
[46:49.400 --> 46:55.360]  Well, like I say, you've pretty much stated your case.
[46:55.360 --> 46:57.960]  I would try to stick to those fact issues.
[46:57.960 --> 46:58.960]  Yeah.
[46:58.960 --> 46:59.960]  These are the facts.
[46:59.960 --> 47:04.200]  I'm not going to go into semantics about right, wrong, or indifferent.
[47:04.200 --> 47:05.920]  You violated law.
[47:05.920 --> 47:07.160]  Here's the law.
[47:07.160 --> 47:12.200]  You violated my ability to complete this course in a timely manner and delayed my entry into
[47:12.200 --> 47:17.180]  a productive use of this degree I was seeking.
[47:17.180 --> 47:19.360]  And you've hired a fraud.
[47:19.360 --> 47:27.000]  And you are helping this fraud by misrepresenting what it is he does and his qualifications
[47:27.000 --> 47:29.320]  to do it.
[47:29.320 --> 47:33.160]  So what do you intend to do about these issues?
[47:33.160 --> 47:34.160]  Okay.
[47:34.160 --> 47:36.520]  That's what I'd go with.
[47:36.520 --> 47:38.520]  I wish I had you on recorder right now.
[47:38.520 --> 47:39.520]  Well, we have archives.
[47:39.520 --> 47:40.520]  Yeah.
[47:40.520 --> 47:44.520]  I know, but it's not going to be up by tomorrow morning.
[47:44.520 --> 47:45.520]  I got it.
[47:45.520 --> 47:46.520]  Yeah, it'll be up by tomorrow morning.
[47:46.520 --> 47:47.520]  Oh, it will?
[47:47.520 --> 47:48.520]  Yeah.
[47:48.520 --> 47:49.520]  Oh, great.
[47:49.520 --> 47:50.520]  Oh, okay.
[47:50.520 --> 47:51.520]  Usually it takes things.
[47:51.520 --> 47:52.520]  I don't know.
[47:52.520 --> 47:53.720]  It seems like it usually takes a couple of days.
[47:53.720 --> 47:55.920]  Well, it depends on what I have going on.
[47:55.920 --> 48:00.760]  Everything's a manual system right now, and if I am completely and totally slammed with
[48:00.760 --> 48:07.400]  preparing for the FCC case or whatever, I have a few other clients, then sometimes it
[48:07.400 --> 48:10.320]  takes longer than others, but I'll be able to get this one up by tomorrow.
[48:10.320 --> 48:11.320]  All right.
[48:11.320 --> 48:12.320]  All right.
[48:12.320 --> 48:13.320]  Well, thanks a lot.
[48:13.320 --> 48:14.320]  And thanks for all the other stuff you're doing.
[48:14.320 --> 48:18.200]  I know you've got collars on the line, but I really appreciate everything you're doing
[48:18.200 --> 48:20.400]  and your help with this case in particular.
[48:20.400 --> 48:23.840]  And if it's archived and sweet, I'm going to write it down and walk in there and tell
[48:23.840 --> 48:24.840]  her just that.
[48:24.840 --> 48:25.840]  Yeah.
[48:25.840 --> 48:29.920]  And we had our benefit on Thursday night, and so we ran archives that night.
[48:29.920 --> 48:37.080]  We were live Friday, but I've been consulting with assistance of council all weekend to
[48:37.080 --> 48:41.640]  prepare for some upcoming documents that are due in this case, and so I haven't updated
[48:41.640 --> 48:46.600]  the archives since Thursday, but everything will be current by probably about midnight
[48:46.600 --> 48:47.600]  tonight.
[48:47.600 --> 48:48.600]  Cool.
[48:48.600 --> 48:49.600]  All right.
[48:49.600 --> 48:50.600]  Thank you very much.
[48:50.600 --> 48:51.600]  All right.
[48:51.600 --> 48:52.600]  Thank you.
[48:52.600 --> 48:53.600]  You're very welcome.
[48:53.600 --> 48:54.600]  All right.
[48:54.600 --> 48:58.560]  Well, everybody is on the line now.
[48:58.560 --> 48:59.560]  Let's go to Chris.
[48:59.560 --> 49:00.560]  How are you doing?
[49:00.560 --> 49:01.560]  Hello, Chris.
[49:01.560 --> 49:02.560]  All right.
[49:02.560 --> 49:03.560]  How are you?
[49:03.560 --> 49:04.560]  I'm in Wisconsin.
[49:04.560 --> 49:05.560]  Our bunker here.
[49:05.560 --> 49:08.920]  We're working on the film and scanning photos, and I got the radio on and just listening
[49:08.920 --> 49:12.400]  to your show, and I really want to just give a shout out and thank you for what you're
[49:12.400 --> 49:13.400]  doing.
[49:13.400 --> 49:18.440]  You're the experts of experts, and so keep up the good work, and I really appreciate
[49:18.440 --> 49:20.440]  everything you guys are doing down there.
[49:20.440 --> 49:21.440]  Well, thanks, Chris.
[49:21.440 --> 49:23.320]  I really, really appreciate that.
[49:23.320 --> 49:24.320]  You're welcome.
[49:24.320 --> 49:28.320]  I know a lot of people in Oklahoma City, and well, nationwide for that matter, but we're
[49:28.320 --> 49:34.640]  very fortunate to have your show on the air here on the FM waves, and so they are definitely
[49:34.640 --> 49:38.160]  gaining a lot from your knowledge, so keep up the good work.
[49:38.160 --> 49:39.160]  Thanks, Chris.
[49:39.160 --> 49:40.160]  You're welcome.
[49:40.160 --> 49:41.160]  You guys have a good evening.
[49:41.160 --> 49:44.560]  That's our very good friend, Chris Emory, out of Oklahoma City.
[49:44.560 --> 49:49.400]  Of course, he's working, and I'm helping him with Chris is one of the producers for
[49:49.400 --> 49:55.080]  the film, A Noble Lie, which is an expose on the Oklahoma City documentary, I mean,
[49:55.080 --> 50:01.360]  Oklahoma City Bombing, expose showing that basically it was an inside job, and I am fortunate
[50:01.360 --> 50:07.680]  enough to be on the team working on the film on mastering the audio for those guys and
[50:07.680 --> 50:08.680]  gals.
[50:08.680 --> 50:12.400]  Kay Beach is up there working on it, too, so I feel very honored and blessed and humbled
[50:12.400 --> 50:16.880]  to be part of the project, and I tell you what, it's going to blow your socks off,
[50:16.880 --> 50:17.880]  folks.
[50:17.880 --> 50:19.400]  And raise the hair on the back of your neck.
[50:19.400 --> 50:25.200]  When this documentary comes out, there is so much information, it is just astounding,
[50:25.200 --> 50:30.440]  and I'm privileged to get to go through all the interviews and master all the audio.
[50:30.440 --> 50:31.640]  I get to see it.
[50:31.640 --> 50:38.200]  I get to hear everything because I get the unedited version of all of it, and I'll tell
[50:38.200 --> 50:43.360]  you, it is just incredible, the amount of information that these people have gathered
[50:43.360 --> 50:47.240]  over the years, the witnesses they've interviewed is just incredible.
[50:47.240 --> 50:50.760]  So at any rate, we're going to continue on with your calls.
[50:50.760 --> 50:53.120]  We've got Linda from Florida right now.
[50:53.120 --> 50:54.720]  Linda, thank you for calling in.
[50:54.720 --> 50:56.520]  What is your question tonight?
[50:56.520 --> 51:01.320]  Well, I was traveling behind the wheel of my automobile, and I was pulled over for a
[51:01.320 --> 51:08.640]  failure, well, to be specific, driver not belted, safety belt violation.
[51:08.640 --> 51:12.000]  In Florida, they're allowed to pull you over for not wearing a seat belt.
[51:12.000 --> 51:14.920]  When she pulled me over, I said, I always wear my seat belt.
[51:14.920 --> 51:21.040]  She said, I saw the clip right there, you weren't wearing it, and when my seat belt
[51:21.040 --> 51:24.720]  is off, my clip is down below where she could see, so I could actually take a picture of
[51:24.720 --> 51:25.720]  that maybe if that would help.
[51:25.720 --> 51:30.840]  I don't know what to do about this, if I can get out of it or not, or what's going on.
[51:30.840 --> 51:35.160]  Is the clip adjustable, or is it fixed in the band of the seat belt where it is?
[51:35.160 --> 51:40.440]  No, it slides, and when the seat belt is off, it slides down to a position below where she
[51:40.440 --> 51:41.960]  could probably see.
[51:41.960 --> 51:51.200]  Right, but is it adjustable on the belt, or is the belt fixed to it by two separate ends?
[51:51.200 --> 51:59.640]  Okay, you know how these seat belts have metal rings in them, and the fabric of the belt
[51:59.640 --> 52:02.560]  goes through the ring on one side, and the ring on the other side, and that's where it's
[52:02.560 --> 52:07.320]  sewn into place, and then you have those where the belt goes completely through it in one
[52:07.320 --> 52:10.160]  piece, and you can adjust it up and down on the belt.
[52:10.160 --> 52:11.160]  Which one is yours?
[52:11.160 --> 52:17.920]  I guess the first one, it's a Honda, you just bring the seat belt over across you and plug
[52:17.920 --> 52:20.920]  it in.
[52:20.920 --> 52:28.200]  Okay take a look at it, if it's a fixed point buckle, then that argument would fly.
[52:28.200 --> 52:33.200]  If it's an adjustable buckle, taking a picture of it and showing it below one spot or the
[52:33.200 --> 52:38.240]  other won't help, because you can adjust its height, see what I'm saying?
[52:38.240 --> 52:43.160]  I can adjust the height, it slides down to where the little stop thing is on it, just
[52:43.160 --> 52:45.360]  below the door level.
[52:45.360 --> 52:52.360]  Right, so if you show that mechanically and physically, it's impossible for it to have
[52:52.360 --> 52:57.680]  been where she says if you weren't wearing it, then that argument most certainly can
[52:57.680 --> 52:59.320]  be made.
[52:59.320 --> 53:05.640]  In fact, I would write a motion, if you do go to trial on it, I would write a motion
[53:05.640 --> 53:12.480]  to have the court move the proceedings to the parking lot with the jury so that it can
[53:12.480 --> 53:19.760]  be physically demonstrated that what the officer says she saw was impossible to see.
[53:19.760 --> 53:25.720]  Right, well I was going to take a picture.
[53:25.720 --> 53:30.760]  Well, you would still have to get on the stand to testify to bring the picture into evidence.
[53:30.760 --> 53:37.360]  Well, if you're going to do that, you may as well show, if the car is there, have them
[53:37.360 --> 53:42.560]  take the proceedings to the parking lot and ask the judge to allow you to get in the automobile
[53:42.560 --> 53:48.080]  to demonstrate that it can't be done the way the officer described it.
[53:48.080 --> 53:54.720]  Okay, what if, okay, I had said to her that I had held the part that goes across your
[53:54.720 --> 53:59.120]  chest, I held it down to the side, because I don't like it across my chest all the time,
[53:59.120 --> 54:03.040]  so once in a while I bring it down to the side, and it was on, she just couldn't see.
[54:03.040 --> 54:08.680]  She said, well, that was improper use of the seatbelt.
[54:08.680 --> 54:14.440]  You're allowed to adjust the seatbelt even while you're wearing it, okay?
[54:14.440 --> 54:18.800]  So don't tell her you move it up under your arm or something of that nature, but you're
[54:18.800 --> 54:26.120]  still arguing merits of how to use a seatbelt when those seatbelts only apply to hoop.
[54:26.120 --> 54:33.080]  Okay, well, I think what might have really happened was that when I left the place I
[54:33.080 --> 54:40.280]  was at, when I had taken the seatbelt off to get out of the car, it caught on the other
[54:40.280 --> 54:45.480]  side of the belt that hangs down beside it, and it is possible that maybe it was hanging
[54:45.480 --> 54:49.680]  up there and didn't slide all the way down, and that's what she saw.
[54:49.680 --> 54:52.440]  What if that's the case?
[54:52.440 --> 54:54.600]  You said you were stopped in getting out of the car?
[54:54.600 --> 54:59.280]  No, I'm saying I was going down the road after I had left the place.
[54:59.280 --> 55:03.720]  It's almost like she targeted me coming out of that street, and she watched me twice,
[55:03.720 --> 55:09.600]  and then she got in behind me, and I didn't pull over for a while either, but I signaled
[55:09.600 --> 55:12.280]  that I was going to pull over, and I pointed that I was going to pull over because I wanted
[55:12.280 --> 55:15.120]  to go all the way down to a certain point where I could easily pull off the road and
[55:15.120 --> 55:18.000]  not take a side street.
[55:18.000 --> 55:22.360]  She had two other officers called on the scene because of that, but that was not a big deal.
[55:22.360 --> 55:27.240]  They're all laughing about everything, and they left, and then she gave me the ticket,
[55:27.240 --> 55:35.320]  but I mean, if the seatbelt thing got caught up in there and was... Is there any way to
[55:35.320 --> 55:36.320]  get out?
[55:36.320 --> 55:37.920]  What I'm trying to say, is there any way to get out of a seatbelt ticket if you're not
[55:37.920 --> 55:40.920]  wearing a seatbelt?
[55:40.920 --> 55:45.040]  Yeah, but again, it requires that you know the argument to make.
[55:45.040 --> 55:48.280]  In this case, it would have to be lack of commerce.
[55:48.280 --> 55:55.200]  You're not engaged in an activity that's regulatable as a commercial activity, but again, if you
[55:55.200 --> 55:59.960]  haven't done any study of your statutes and know how to present that issue in court, it's
[55:59.960 --> 56:07.040]  probably not going to help you, simply because you don't know how to make the argument.
[56:07.040 --> 56:12.440]  If I was delivering food for a restaurant, would that be under that?
[56:12.440 --> 56:19.560]  If you're a delivery driver, yes, it is.
[56:19.560 --> 56:26.160]  If you're in a delivery vehicle, it most certainly applies to you, and you are required to comply.
[56:26.160 --> 56:29.360]  My personal vehicle.
[56:29.360 --> 56:31.480]  Did you have a sign on it or anything?
[56:31.480 --> 56:32.880]  No, absolutely not.
[56:32.880 --> 56:38.600]  Yeah, but still, if you were transporting goods for hire from point A to point B, you
[56:38.600 --> 56:41.960]  were in commerce on the roads.
[56:41.960 --> 56:45.040]  But it's not your property.
[56:45.040 --> 56:50.520]  Now, if you owned a furniture business and you were moving your furniture from one store
[56:50.520 --> 56:59.680]  to another store, you're not in commerce because you own the property you're moving.
[56:59.680 --> 57:05.560]  But in the case of, did you inform the officer that you were on a delivery?
[57:05.560 --> 57:08.360]  Sort of.
[57:08.360 --> 57:12.160]  Okay, then she's got you dead to rights.
[57:12.160 --> 57:16.120]  I don't know if she'd remember, but I mean, I'm not allowed to drive a delivery vehicle.
[57:16.120 --> 57:21.040]  Well, she'll remember because they record those encounters.
[57:21.040 --> 57:28.000]  If they play the recording, her memory will be refreshed, guaranteed.
[57:28.000 --> 57:33.240]  But if you were actively delivering and you especially admitted to that, they have you
[57:33.240 --> 57:34.240]  dead to rights.
[57:34.240 --> 57:39.080]  Okay, well, what if these people were people that I knew and I was bringing them food,
[57:39.080 --> 57:41.520]  just dropping food off to them?
[57:41.520 --> 57:43.800]  Well then that's not commerce, is it?
[57:43.800 --> 57:44.800]  That's kindness.
[57:44.800 --> 57:45.800]  Yeah.
[57:45.800 --> 57:53.280]  So what statutes would I have to read to know enough about that whole situation if I had
[57:53.280 --> 57:54.280]  to?
[57:54.280 --> 57:58.780]  Well, that I can't answer because I'm not tuned into Florida statutes.
[57:58.780 --> 58:03.320]  You would have to contact, if there is anybody out there in Florida that's familiar with
[58:03.320 --> 58:09.640]  this issue and calls in or listens to the show regularly, please send me an email, including
[58:09.640 --> 58:10.640]  you, Linda.
[58:10.640 --> 58:16.080]  And if anyone responds, I'll be happy to hook y'all up so y'all can talk about it if you
[58:16.080 --> 58:17.080]  know.
[58:17.080 --> 58:18.080]  You're going to want to start with-
[58:18.080 --> 58:26.120]  If anybody wants to give Linda a hand with the statutes, please send me an email, eddyeatruleoflawradio.com,
[58:26.120 --> 58:27.120]  and I'll hook you two up.
[58:27.120 --> 58:31.120]  You're going to want to start with the Florida transportation code for starters.
[58:31.120 --> 58:32.480]  Yeah, whatever that actually is.
[58:32.480 --> 58:36.120]  I think Florida statutes draw one big code with different divisions.
[58:36.120 --> 58:39.840]  All right, thank you, Linda, for calling in.
[58:39.840 --> 58:40.840]  Linda from Florida.
[58:40.840 --> 58:41.840]  Thanks.
[58:41.840 --> 58:42.840]  Okay.
[58:42.840 --> 58:46.680]  All right, folks, we have open phone lines, no callers on the board.
[58:46.680 --> 58:54.280]  We've got one more hour tonight, so please call in 512-646-1984, and we'll be right back
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[01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:09.680]  Overthrown Honduran President Manuel Zelaya signed an agreement Sunday with current President
[01:00:09.680 --> 01:00:14.440]  Porfirio Lobo in Colombia that will allow Zelaya to return to the country.
[01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:19.240]  The deal also mandates investigations into allegations of human rights abuse that occurred
[01:00:19.240 --> 01:00:24.000]  during the coup and specifies that political opposition to Lobo's right-wing government
[01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.880]  will be allowed to participate in political life and in the elections of 2014.
[01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:33.960]  A recent study has found small amounts of radioactive substances in the breast milk
[01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:35.200]  of Japanese women.
[01:00:35.200 --> 01:00:39.400]  The study was conducted a month after the March earthquake and tsunami triggered a crisis
[01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:44.040]  at the Fukushima nuclear plant and radiation leaked into the ground, sea, and soil.
[01:00:44.040 --> 01:00:45.920]  Forty-one women were tested.
[01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.720]  Cesium was found in the breast milk of four women and radioactive iodine in the breast
[01:00:49.720 --> 01:00:52.160]  milk of one.
[01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:56.960]  In news from Iraq, at least two people died and ten others were wounded in the northern
[01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:02.480]  city of Kirkuk Monday from a blast targeting the motorcade of an Iraqi police chief.
[01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.220]  On Sunday, a string of bombings killed at least 16 people and wounded 74 more across
[01:01:07.220 --> 01:01:10.080]  Baghdad and a nearby city of Taji.
[01:01:10.080 --> 01:01:15.080]  The U.S. military said two U.S. soldiers were killed on Sunday during operations in central
[01:01:15.080 --> 01:01:17.200]  Iraq.
[01:01:17.200 --> 01:01:21.440]  In case you hadn't noticed, the world did not end Saturday as many Christian fundamentalists
[01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:22.440]  had predicted.
[01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:26.560]  Believers had spent months warning the world of the pending cataclysm.
[01:01:26.560 --> 01:01:31.120]  Some drained their savings accounts in response to the May 21st doomsday message by rapture
[01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:36.400]  prophet Harold Camping, who has built a multimillion dollar Christian media empire.
[01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.960]  Camping preached that 200 million people would be saved and those left behind would die in
[01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:46.000]  a series of scourges visiting earth until the globe is consumed by a fireball on October
[01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.480]  21st.
[01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:53.280]  Camping's media outlet Family Radio International reported in 2009 IRS filings that it received
[01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:59.800]  $18.3 million in donations and had assets of more than $104 million.
[01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.840]  As Saturday drew near, donations grew.
[01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:07.600]  Camping has said that his earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994 didn't come true because
[01:02:07.600 --> 01:02:12.400]  of a mathematical error, but this time there was no possibility he was wrong.
[01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:18.960]  This weekend, storms ripped through several Midwestern states, killing at least 89 people
[01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:23.520]  in Joplin, Missouri, including seven people dead at a nursing home.
[01:02:23.520 --> 01:02:28.920]  At least 20 tornadoes were reported across the three states Saturday, 14 in Kansas, five
[01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.680]  in Oklahoma, and one in Missouri.
[01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:36.700]  Missouri Governor Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency Sunday evening and activated
[01:02:36.700 --> 01:02:40.680]  the Missouri National Guard in response to the destruction.
[01:02:40.680 --> 01:02:45.000]  Tornadoes could be heard early this morning from people trapped below the wreckage, while
[01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.640]  rescue crews have been pulling out bodies and lining them up in the streets for loved
[01:02:49.640 --> 01:02:50.640]  ones to identify.
[01:02:50.640 --> 01:02:55.640]  For more details on these stories, visit www.inmworldrecord.net.
[01:02:55.640 --> 01:03:08.400]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
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[01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.400]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:44.480]  We've got a few callers on the line.
[01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:48.360]  This is Rule of Law Radio, ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:51.040]  I'm Deborah Stevens here with Eddie Craig.
[01:03:51.040 --> 01:03:56.880]  It is May 23rd, Monday, and I just wanted to thank everyone again for the folks who
[01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:04.180]  came out to the fundraiser for 9.1 FM here in Austin last Thursday night.
[01:04:04.180 --> 01:04:05.560]  We had a great time.
[01:04:05.560 --> 01:04:11.240]  My band played, Three Shoes Posse, and so did Josh Logan's band, Higher Than Why.
[01:04:11.240 --> 01:04:13.440]  Josh was the organizer of the event.
[01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:14.900]  We had Vote Rescue.
[01:04:14.900 --> 01:04:19.920]  We had Texans for Accountable Government, Brave New Books was out there, and so was
[01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.680]  Flooride Free Austin, of course.
[01:04:22.680 --> 01:04:28.160]  We did have a successful event, but folks, we still do need to raise some more money
[01:04:28.160 --> 01:04:32.480]  to pay for some upcoming legal fees.
[01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:41.800]  We are coming to the end of the trial level, the first court rounds level here for some
[01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:46.400]  of these FCC cases involving 9.1 FM.
[01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:52.760]  It will have to go to appeal one way or the other, whether win, lose, or draw.
[01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:58.240]  It will go to appeal because whether or not, if we win, DOJ is going to appeal.
[01:04:58.240 --> 01:05:03.200]  If we lose, or I should technically say they, I'm not directly involved, they lose, then
[01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:06.320]  they'll have to appeal, and so we do need to raise some more funds.
[01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:14.140]  I have left the PayPal donate button on the ruleoflawradio.com website, and anything that
[01:05:14.140 --> 01:05:20.120]  you listeners out there could please donate to help beef up the legal fund would be very
[01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:21.120]  much appreciated.
[01:05:21.120 --> 01:05:28.160]  We're looking at needing about another $800 right now in order to reach our goal for
[01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:37.040]  taking the case to the next level because we're looking at multiple cases here, two
[01:05:37.040 --> 01:05:42.800]  cases specifically, and the appeals fees are $450 apiece.
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:49.360]  That's just for the filing fee for the appeal, and we're sure that at least parts, some of
[01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:56.240]  the aspects of these cases will be responsible for making that appeal.
[01:05:56.240 --> 01:06:01.400]  Some of the other aspects of the cases, DOJ may be responsible for appealing, but if any
[01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:07.160]  of the aspects of the case at all, if these entities involved are responsible for appealing,
[01:06:07.160 --> 01:06:09.360]  then they have to pay the filing fee.
[01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:16.120]  We're assuming right now that we are going to have to come up with the $900 for the appeals
[01:06:16.120 --> 01:06:23.640]  fee for these two cases, and that means that we'll also have to pay for the court reporter,
[01:06:23.640 --> 01:06:30.600]  the transcript of the hearing, and we're looking at, you can estimate about $150 an hour for
[01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:39.400]  that, and so we do have some funds, but counting, we're trying to figure out how many hours
[01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.520]  these hearings may take, we're not sure, but worst case scenario, we still basically do
[01:06:43.520 --> 01:06:49.440]  need to come up with another $800 if we want to make sure that we are covered for this
[01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:50.920]  upcoming appeals cost.
[01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:57.880]  So folks, if you did attend the fundraiser, we very much appreciate it, however, we didn't
[01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:04.200]  quite reach our goal at the fundraiser, so we would sincerely appreciate if you listeners
[01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:10.680]  out there could please donate to help us reach our goal, because these entities have given
[01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:16.480]  everything they have to keep the station on the air, and we do need to help them, and
[01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:22.920]  as far as the 200 ounces of silver is concerned, that goal was met, and that went to pay for
[01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:28.200]  the legal team that was hired to deal with the case, so we don't necessarily need to
[01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:35.360]  come up with any more funds to pay attorney's fees or assistance of counsel fees, some are
[01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:41.520]  attorneys, some are not, that are on the legal team, but just the basic bare bone court costs
[01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:47.040]  themselves are very expensive, so folks, we really appreciate if you could help us out
[01:07:47.040 --> 01:07:48.040]  here.
[01:07:48.040 --> 01:07:53.920]  So, all right, with that, we are going to continue taking your calls, we've got Ben
[01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:59.760]  in Texas, Ben, thank you for calling in, what is on your mind tonight?
[01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:06.200]  Well, I heard someone calling about the warrants earlier, and I think that's a major problem,
[01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:10.040]  because like, you know, once they get you in that point, they really, it's pretty much
[01:08:10.040 --> 01:08:14.520]  a one-way ticket to jail unless you pop up a whole bunch of money, but, you know, some
[01:08:14.520 --> 01:08:20.560]  of us can't afford to pay all that out, and I was just thinking, like, of setting up,
[01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:27.080]  like, a way to, like, you know, being in some of these, you know, jails, and especially
[01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:32.720]  Williamson County, because they're the most corrupt, we need to do the most work there,
[01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:37.560]  and you know, I had a few ideas, for one, my uncle is a federal prosecutor, and I think
[01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:40.920]  one of the things, one of the problems with, like, litigating Williamson County, if you
[01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.200]  have to try them in their own courts, and their courts are so corrupt that it's just
[01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:45.200]  pointless.
[01:08:45.200 --> 01:08:50.000]  So, I'm thinking of ways of, like, how we can get them into federal courts, because
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.000]  the federal courts aren't going to give a crap about Williamson County, you know, they're
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:00.400]  going to, they're going to do what they're supposed to, and then discipline them.
[01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:11.360]  So, basically, I just wanted to see if Eddie had any ideas on that, on getting some, like,
[01:09:11.360 --> 01:09:16.400]  finding them in violation of federal statutes, if that's what I'm looking to do.
[01:09:16.400 --> 01:09:21.560]  Well, I'm pretty sure I've covered this in the classes, but the only way you're going
[01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:29.080]  to get them into federal court is either through criminal acts brought about by the DOJ, or
[01:09:29.080 --> 01:09:35.960]  through a Title 18 and 240, or Title 42 civil action.
[01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:40.320]  That's the only way you're going to get these people into federal court, or petition to
[01:09:40.320 --> 01:09:46.840]  remove your current case, even though it's under state law at the federal court, because
[01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:54.200]  of violations involving federal jurisdiction issues, such as protected rights.
[01:09:54.200 --> 01:09:57.000]  That's the only way you're getting them in the Fed.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.400]  Okay, so the DOJ thing might be doable.
[01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:04.720]  I just have to talk to my uncle about that, and see if maybe he can get one of the prosecutors
[01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.760]  from the DOJ around here to take some of the complaints.
[01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:10.760]  But I have to bust them.
[01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:12.160]  We need to bust them actually doing things.
[01:10:12.160 --> 01:10:15.760]  The other thing is I wanted a list of things that we've actually busted them doing, you
[01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:19.640]  know, like altering court records, stuff that's like, you know, straight up felonies, too.
[01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:26.920]  What makes you think, Ben, that going through the records with forensic audits of what the
[01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:33.040]  records are won't produce that information?
[01:10:33.040 --> 01:10:38.640]  The records themselves will give us everything we need if they do it like they do everywhere
[01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:40.760]  else, which is shoddily.
[01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:41.760]  Okay.
[01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:48.160]  Yeah, so that's the first thing, is I just wanted to amass some of that together, and
[01:10:48.160 --> 01:10:53.240]  then, you know, send some of that to my uncle, see what he thinks about it, and see, just
[01:10:53.240 --> 01:10:56.360]  to get his opinion on what we can do to stop these people.
[01:10:56.360 --> 01:10:59.840]  Well, the problem is you're not going to get those records.
[01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:06.200]  The DOJ would have to come in and do their own search and review of the records.
[01:11:06.200 --> 01:11:12.280]  You're not going to get them to take them to anybody.
[01:11:12.280 --> 01:11:16.640]  I guarantee you they will never be allowed to be placed in your hands, at least not in
[01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.320]  a volume to be able to show what you're wanting to show.
[01:11:19.320 --> 01:11:20.320]  Okay.
[01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:23.920]  I thought you were talking about just going in and, like, you know, requesting the records
[01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:24.920]  and that they have to give them to you.
[01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:28.560]  I'm pretty sure, like, you can do an open records request and say whatever you need,
[01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:29.560]  can't you?
[01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:30.560]  No.
[01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.280]  Court records do not fall under open records.
[01:11:33.280 --> 01:11:35.480]  I thought we've covered this before.
[01:11:35.480 --> 01:11:37.280]  They are public records.
[01:11:37.280 --> 01:11:42.920]  You are supposed to be able to go in and get them, any member of the public.
[01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:49.840]  The problem is, is they're not giving them to you, any member of the public.
[01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:56.880]  The DOJ can come in with a federal warrant and get them, though, and there won't be any
[01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.680]  refusal to turn them over.
[01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.280]  And if there is, somebody is in trouble.
[01:12:02.280 --> 01:12:06.600]  That's a power you and I don't have.
[01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:07.600]  Right.
[01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:11.680]  So that's why I want to try and get my uncle involved, because he is a federal prosecutor
[01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:13.480]  and he, I mean, obviously, he's a little bit...
[01:12:13.480 --> 01:12:17.240]  Well, if you can get him involved to do that, great.
[01:12:17.240 --> 01:12:20.600]  But he's going to have to be willing to conduct the investigation.
[01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:22.720]  You're not going to be able to do it.
[01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:26.560]  You will not get what's needed, because you don't know everything that's needed, and he
[01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:27.560]  will.
[01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.240]  Well, they'll give you your own court records, won't they?
[01:12:29.240 --> 01:12:33.160]  And I'm sure, like, I'm sure we've had enough people, you know, to show that...
[01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:34.160]  That depends.
[01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:37.400]  We've had them turn down enough people when it comes to their own court records.
[01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:40.880]  There's no guarantee they will or they won't.
[01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:41.880]  That's insanity.
[01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.560]  Hey, you can't see your own court records.
[01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.520]  You're not getting any argument out of me as to what it is.
[01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:52.000]  I'm simply telling you the way it works in a lot of cases.
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  Okay.
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:58.600]  Well, I mean, is that a crime for them not to give you the record?
[01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:02.280]  I'm pretty sure it is, an official oppression or something.
[01:13:02.280 --> 01:13:08.280]  Well, it's secreting a government record from the public when it's supposed to be a public
[01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:09.280]  record.
[01:13:09.280 --> 01:13:10.280]  Okay.
[01:13:10.280 --> 01:13:13.960]  But, again, you've got to find somebody willing to prosecute that.
[01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:16.880]  That in and of itself is not a federal issue.
[01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:18.680]  That's a state issue.
[01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:22.920]  And of course, we know that they're all watching out for each other when it comes to the state
[01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:23.920]  issues.
[01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:30.160]  So, until you get a federal issue established that causes the state to have to question
[01:13:30.160 --> 01:13:33.360]  the other issues, good luck.
[01:13:33.360 --> 01:13:34.360]  Okay.
[01:13:34.360 --> 01:13:38.040]  So, now, this is what I've actually found out, too, is, okay, so there's, like, certain
[01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:39.040]  regulations and such.
[01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:43.440]  There's a whole book of regulations, like, put out by the Department of Justice that
[01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:45.840]  all jails in America have to follow.
[01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:46.840]  Okay?
[01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:47.840]  Now...
[01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:48.840]  Yeah, they're the jail standards.
[01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:49.840]  What about them?
[01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:50.840]  Okay.
[01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:54.440]  So, like, when they catch those, you have, you have grounds for, when you catch them,
[01:13:54.440 --> 01:13:57.280]  like, breaking those, you have grounds for civil lawsuits in federal court.
[01:13:57.280 --> 01:13:58.280]  All right?
[01:13:58.280 --> 01:14:00.280]  Only if you were the guy in jail.
[01:14:00.280 --> 01:14:01.280]  Right.
[01:14:01.280 --> 01:14:02.280]  Exactly.
[01:14:02.280 --> 01:14:03.280]  But that's what I'm talking about.
[01:14:03.280 --> 01:14:04.280]  You know, I got warrants already.
[01:14:04.280 --> 01:14:05.280]  I've got to get rid of them somehow.
[01:14:05.280 --> 01:14:07.880]  So, I'm thinking about going and, like, pulling a stand.
[01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:11.600]  Well, taking your issue to federal court's not going to resolve the warrant issues.
[01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.440]  No, it's not what I'm going to do, but what that's going to do is it's going to rack up
[01:14:16.440 --> 01:14:17.440]  false imprisonment.
[01:14:17.440 --> 01:14:22.440]  Damages for false imprisonment is what it's going to do.
[01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:24.360]  Hold on a minute.
[01:14:24.360 --> 01:14:31.560]  False imprisonment is a completely separate issue from not abiding by the jail standards.
[01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:32.960]  Not the same thing.
[01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:36.640]  Apples, oranges, pears, grapes.
[01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:38.640]  Not the same thing.
[01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:45.640]  The fact that you're wrongfully in jail has nothing to do with the standards of the jail.
[01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:46.640]  Right.
[01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:47.640]  I understand that.
[01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:51.640]  But, look, my point is, once I start filing all these lawsuits and stuff, they're going
[01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.640]  to be easier to get me out of there.
[01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:55.640]  And they're not going to want to have me back.
[01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:56.640]  That's my point.
[01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.640]  Then you obviously don't know anything about Williamson County.
[01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:04.640]  The more pressure you put on them, the more pressure they're going to put on you.
[01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:10.640]  And you're making a very big jump to getting out of their clutches just because you're
[01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.640]  being obstinate with lawsuits.
[01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:21.640]  What would be a far easier way to make the lawsuits go away?
[01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:23.640]  I don't know.
[01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:26.640]  Well, I'll give you time to think about that.
[01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.640]  But it's not a pleasant option.
[01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:31.640]  Let me leave you with that thought.
[01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:32.640]  Okay.
[01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:41.640]  Don't put anything past Williamson County to protect their own.
[01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.640]  Yeah, they'll just cook up some charges against you and set the bond so high you won't be
[01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.640]  able to afford to get out and just keep you in there.
[01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.640]  Or they'll likely hang you in your cell.
[01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:53.640]  Yeah, that too.
[01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.640]  They'll keep you in there until you drop the suits or kill you in jail.
[01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.640]  Yeah, this is Wilco we're talking about, people.
[01:15:58.640 --> 01:15:59.640]  Right.
[01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:00.640]  Okay.
[01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:03.640]  This is why I want to get my uncle involved.
[01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:13.640]  But you have to establish a federal question or else the feds can't get involved.
[01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:14.640]  Right.
[01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:15.640]  So what about racketeering?
[01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.640]  Isn't that kind of a federal issue?
[01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:23.640]  Only if it's a federal law they broke when they did it.
[01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:24.640]  That's the thing.
[01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:27.640]  I guess I just need to dig through the U.S. Code and find something that I can get them on.
[01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:32.640]  Well, Randy has been working on cooking up a RICO suit for a long time.
[01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:39.640]  That could be federal, but at this point in time the only thing we've got now are violations
[01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:44.640]  of the street gang statute, which is basically the state version of the RICO.
[01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:50.640]  Yeah, you can't bring the feds involved unless there's a federal question and a federal statute.
[01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:51.640]  Well, I know that.
[01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:53.640]  Okay, Ben, listen, we're going to break.
[01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:54.640]  We're going to break.
[01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:55.640]  Listen, we need to move on to other callers.
[01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:57.640]  Why don't you call back on Thursday?
[01:16:57.640 --> 01:16:59.640]  We'll be back, folks.
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[01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:42.640]  All right, folks, I'm going to fool us with the same old tricks again.
[01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.640]  Okay, we're moving on to your calls.
[01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.640]  Our next caller is Gene in Georgia.
[01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:50.640]  Gene, thank you for calling in.
[01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:52.640]  What is on your mind tonight?
[01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:56.640]  Hey, Debbie and Eddie, I really think the world of what you guys are doing there.
[01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.640]  I'm just now going through your archives to catch up with the latest.
[01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:05.640]  But I was wondering, the way I look at things is a little bit different.
[01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:14.640]  I look at no taxation period as the foundation of how I approach the problem.
[01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:19.640]  Like in Ezra 724, it says it's unlawful for even a bag carrier
[01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.640]  or a choir member of this house of God to pay a direct tax of any kind.
[01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:26.640]  And I backed it up with Matthew chapter 20.
[01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:29.640]  And so that goes into the money issue.
[01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:33.640]  Gold and silver, you know, it's honest money,
[01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:37.640]  but there is a form of paper money that is honest as well
[01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:42.640]  as long as we have adequate controls over our local government.
[01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.640]  And that would be the script, the colonial script
[01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:49.640]  that the anti-federalist forefathers were using in early America.
[01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:56.640]  And that's where instead of taxes being used to pay interest to the international bankers,
[01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:02.640]  interest on mortgages and commercial loans should be used to pay all the taxes.
[01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:03.640]  Sure.
[01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:07.640]  So Gene, how do you use these principles to deal with traffic tickets?
[01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:11.640]  Well, see, now you're talking about jurisdiction.
[01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:13.640]  You're backing all the way out.
[01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:15.640]  Because in a republic you've got those who make the rules
[01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:17.640]  and those who have got to obey the rules.
[01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:21.640]  But there's a third class, and that's the posterity who never opted in,
[01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:24.640]  the posterity of the rebels, the 1777s.
[01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:26.640]  I was just wondering if you had any practical examples,
[01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.640]  because Monday nights is our traffic ticket night
[01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:31.640]  where we help people deal with specific traffic issues.
[01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:36.640]  And I know that here in Texas what we have found through dissecting the statute
[01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.640]  is that if you're not engaged in commerce on the roadways,
[01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:42.640]  then the traffic code doesn't apply to you anyway.
[01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:44.640]  And we come from that standpoint.
[01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.640]  So do you have any specific practical solutions for folks that you've employed?
[01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:51.640]  Well, I'm just saying you can use this as a backup,
[01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.640]  because when you apply for the driver's license,
[01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.640]  you're claiming to be a citizen of the United States.
[01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:01.640]  But that's not necessary to claim that status.
[01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:02.640]  Okay.
[01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:03.640]  All right.
[01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:04.640]  Well, thanks, Gene.
[01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:05.640]  We appreciate it.
[01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:06.640]  Okay. Thank you.
[01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:07.640]  Okay.
[01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:08.640]  Okay.
[01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:11.640]  We are going now to Stephanie in Texas.
[01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:13.640]  Stephanie, thank you for calling in.
[01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:16.640]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:17.640]  Hey, guys.
[01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:19.640]  I didn't know that Monday was traffic ticket night,
[01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:23.640]  so I want to make my comment real short so you can move on to other callers.
[01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:24.640]  Well, that's okay.
[01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:25.640]  I mean, we'll take questions.
[01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.640]  We'll take other legal-related questions.
[01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.640]  We'll take any legal-related question on any night,
[01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:33.640]  except on Monday nights we can't do mortgages,
[01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:37.640]  but we'll take questions on other legal topics as well.
[01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:38.640]  I just want to comment.
[01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:41.640]  I really have learned a lot from your show, and I listen every day,
[01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:45.640]  and I listen to 90.1 pretty much every day all day when I'm driving in the car,
[01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:48.640]  and I don't really have a legal issue to talk about.
[01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:50.640]  I just wanted to do a quick comment.
[01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:51.640]  I'm not going to take a lot of time,
[01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:56.640]  but the night two weeks ago where you talked about the TSA pat-down
[01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.640]  and you had the guest on about the sexual molestation,
[01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:02.640]  and then you played the clip with the lady who was like,
[01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:05.640]  I'm okay with the sexual molestation as long as it protects me from terrorists,
[01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:07.640]  that really, really fired me up.
[01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:11.640]  I'm really glad you played that clip because it shows me what kind of people
[01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.640]  we need to kind of educate out there about what's going on.
[01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:17.640]  I'm really glad that that bill passed,
[01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.640]  and I wish I could have gone out to speak, and I'm always working,
[01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:23.640]  but I just want to commend you guys on what you're doing
[01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:25.640]  and that I really, really appreciate it,
[01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.640]  and I want to in the future come out and support you guys.
[01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:30.640]  I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the fundraiser,
[01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:34.640]  but I would like to donate, and I just really appreciate your show,
[01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:38.640]  and I wanted to let you know how much that show really touched me,
[01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:44.640]  and I'm boycotting flying and anything to do with the airlines and TSA
[01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.640]  until this problem is resolved.
[01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:49.640]  Well, thank you, Stephanie. I really appreciate it.
[01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:55.640]  And yeah, for folks who did not manage to get out to the fundraiser,
[01:23:55.640 --> 01:24:01.640]  you can donate at ruleoflawradio.com, ruleoflawradio.com,
[01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:04.640]  and there's a donate button right at the top of the page for the 9.1 legal fund.
[01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:06.640]  We thank you, Stephanie.
[01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:13.640]  And yeah, that actually, that was an archive from a couple of months ago,
[01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:18.640]  and I did play the audio from that committee hearing, that subcommittee hearing,
[01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:24.640]  and the status of HB1937 at this point is that it has passed the House,
[01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:28.640]  it's in the Senate now, it passed out of the Senate committee,
[01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:31.640]  and it should be going to the floor of the Senate this week.
[01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:35.640]  It has to. This is the last week of the session, and if it does,
[01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.640]  and hopefully it'll pass, it looks like there's not any opposition,
[01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.640]  then it will become law.
[01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:44.640]  And also, speaking of that, folks, I forgot to make another announcement.
[01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:50.640]  Everybody needs to call and harass as many members of the House as possible
[01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:56.640]  to vote against SB9, Senate Bill 9.
[01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.640]  It passed out of the House subcommittee, it passed the Senate,
[01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.640]  it passed out of the House committee.
[01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:06.640]  SB9 would implement real ID in Texas.
[01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.640]  And what they want to do, this is absolutely horrific.
[01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:18.640]  They want to set up the entire infrastructure to start doing biometric scanning
[01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:25.640]  in order for you to get your driver's license or even just a state-issued ID card.
[01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:29.640]  You would have to start giving them all 10 of your fingerprints,
[01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:34.640]  not just a thumbprint, and they would take a digital biometric face scan
[01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:38.640]  of your face, not just a regular photograph.
[01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:40.640]  You'd have to give them the biometric data.
[01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.640]  And here's what's going on in Florida,
[01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:45.640]  and this is what they want to implement in all the states.
[01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:51.640]  Once they start integrating these biometric facial scans into your driver's license
[01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:57.640]  or even your state ID card, they're going to start setting up face scanning,
[01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:02.640]  biometric face scanning cameras everywhere, all over the state,
[01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:06.640]  and everywhere you go, you will be tracked and traced
[01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:10.640]  unless you're literally wearing a mask or a scarf around your face or something.
[01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.640]  They can even, from what I've understood, what I've heard, these face scanings,
[01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:17.640]  they can even go penetrate through your sunglasses,
[01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:21.640]  so just wearing sunglasses or glasses isn't going to help.
[01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:23.640]  And this is already going on in Florida.
[01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:30.640]  They already have the grid in place, and the police have biometric face scanners
[01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:35.640]  in their vehicles, in their cop cars, and anybody they want,
[01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:40.640]  they can just point it at your face from quite a long distance away,
[01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.640]  and boom, they pull up everything on you.
[01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:49.640]  And this is all going to be integrated with national databases everywhere.
[01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:53.640]  It will be integrated with your bank records, your medical records,
[01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:56.640]  your debit card purchases.
[01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:02.640]  They'll know everything about you and who you are within split seconds.
[01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:06.640]  All right, so this is the full implementation of RealID,
[01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:09.640]  but they're not calling it that in SB9.
[01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:13.640]  And so a lot of these house reps, when we've told them this is RealID,
[01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:16.640]  they're like, oh, I didn't know.
[01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:19.640]  Well, maybe you guys should try reading the bills once in a while,
[01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:21.640]  and then maybe you'd figure it out.
[01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:25.640]  So at any rate, we need, the bill is going to the House floor sometime this week,
[01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:31.640]  so everybody needs to contact as many representatives as possible,
[01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:36.640]  not just the representative for Austin, for folks who are within the sound of my voice.
[01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.640]  And if the reps say, well, I'm not your rep, or if the aides say we're not your reps,
[01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:43.640]  say, yeah, we know, but the bill is going to the floor of the House,
[01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:47.640]  and these reps need to know that this is the implementation of RealID.
[01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:52.640]  So folks, please get on the horn and call as many house reps as you can
[01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:57.640]  and let them know to vote against SB9 RealID.
[01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:59.640]  All right, Stephanie?
[01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.640]  Well, heck no, I won't go.
[01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:04.640]  I mean, what are we going to do?
[01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:05.640]  I mean...
[01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.640]  This is something I've been reading about for quite a long time,
[01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:11.640]  and it's something that's been in the forefront of my mind for a very long time,
[01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.640]  at least since 2007.
[01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.640]  And this is getting crazy,
[01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:22.640]  and I totally agree with you that everybody in your listening voice
[01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:30.640]  should definitely call and do everything in their capacity to protest this,
[01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.640]  because this is definitely against the Constitution,
[01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.640]  it's against our privacy, and as a citizen,
[01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.640]  I just can't believe they're trying to do this to us.
[01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:48.640]  I mean, well, I can, but it's just an egregious...
[01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:49.640]  It's a betrayal.
[01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:56.640]  We don't even have words to describe the kind of atrocity this is against our rights.
[01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.640]  So I want to say that as a young woman who's young and has a smartphone
[01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:04.640]  and knows that it tracks me, I'm still not going to let them fingerprint me
[01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:07.640]  and track me biometrically wherever I go.
[01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:11.640]  Well, then if they do this in Texas, if this bill passes,
[01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:17.640]  then you're going to have to figure out some other way of having an ID.
[01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:22.640]  And the problem is they're going to do this not just for driver's licenses,
[01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:26.640]  but for ID cards too, and if you say, well, I'll just use my passport for ID,
[01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.640]  too late, they're already doing that for passports too.
[01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:33.640]  You can't get a passport anymore without giving them a biometric face scan,
[01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:35.640]  fingerprints, and an iris scan too.
[01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:38.640]  Yeah, and they already had an RFID chip in the passport now.
[01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:41.640]  Yes, so what are we going to use for ID anymore?
[01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:44.640]  So this is a very, very serious issue.
[01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.640]  So please call as many...
[01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.640]  All right, thank you, Stephanie.
[01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:49.640]  Have a good night.
[01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:50.640]  All right, you too.
[01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:52.640]  All right, we will be back.
[01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.640]  Folks, call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:59.640]  We've only got Barbara on the line, so call in.
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[01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:32.640]  We've got Barbara from Texas.
[01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.640]  Barbara, thank you for calling in.
[01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.640]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.640]  Well, it's an employment issue, and I'll be brief.
[01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:40.640]  Is it okay?
[01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:41.640]  Oh, no, that's okay.
[01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:45.640]  I mean, Monday nights, it's not exclusively traffic night,
[01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:51.640]  but that is the night that is basically we give that night to Eddie, you know,
[01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:53.640]  to present traffic information and such.
[01:32:53.640 --> 01:33:00.640]  And anybody's welcome to ask whatever legal questions they have on any night of the show,
[01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.640]  except on Monday nights we don't do mortgage stuff.
[01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.640]  That's the only thing we don't do because Randy's not here on Monday nights,
[01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:07.640]  and we are not schooled in mortgage issues like he is.
[01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:09.640]  So go ahead.
[01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:12.640]  Okay, just to be brief, I've been employed at this job for 10 months
[01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.640]  as an online e-commerce company here in Austin,
[01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:21.640]  and the job was presented to me as basically just lead generation to online lead generation.
[01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:24.640]  Well, my issue with them now is first finding out that the owner is a major bully,
[01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:28.640]  like using profanity and allowing other people that work for him to bully people,
[01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.640]  like, you know, corner them in an office and to scream at them,
[01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:36.640]  you lost money from me using, you know, really bad profanity against them.
[01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.640]  And that's even in his H.R. guidelines that he considers that to be, quote, unquote,
[01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:44.640]  workplace violence, which I did send him a memo about.
[01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:46.640]  So of course they're trying to get rid of me.
[01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:50.640]  But the other big issue I have with them is that they misrepresented the entire job to me.
[01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:54.640]  The job was misrepresented as just a generation of leads.
[01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:58.640]  Now they're trying to hold me to all these sales quotas, revenue generation,
[01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:01.640]  threatening my job if I don't produce this and produce that.
[01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.640]  And in the middle of all this, having these high production quotas,
[01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:08.640]  I've gotten a repented stress injury, which they don't of course want to pay for
[01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:10.640]  because they don't have workers' compensation.
[01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:14.640]  Another thing they never notified me about, and actually under the Texas Labor Code,
[01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.640]  it does state that they are guilty of an administrative violation,
[01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:21.640]  that they don't at least tell you they don't carry workers' comp.
[01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:25.640]  And I'm not a big fan of state workers' comp, but they are required to let people know.
[01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:28.640]  So kind of that's in a synopsis what they've done.
[01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:31.640]  And they didn't give me a formal job description when they hired me.
[01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:33.640]  They didn't give me the formal, awful letter.
[01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.640]  They showed it to me later in my personnel file.
[01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:38.640]  It was unsigned by me or the hiring manager.
[01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.640]  And it had a bunch of stuff in it too about waiving your right to trial by jury,
[01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:45.640]  which I didn't sign it.
[01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:47.640]  I don't consider it effective anyway.
[01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:49.640]  I would have never signed it anyway.
[01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:55.640]  And so I sent them an email today saying basically I consider all this misrepresentation and deception.
[01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:58.640]  I didn't use the word fraud, although I think of it as fraud.
[01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:02.640]  And I'm wondering if you know anything about what I could do about any of that.
[01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:08.640]  Well, you have from the description it's quite possible that you have a hostile work environment
[01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:13.640]  issued to go after them on.
[01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:20.640]  And the other is especially make sure that you get a copy of whatever the HR policies are
[01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.640]  on those things they're doing that violates those policies.
[01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:31.640]  And since you are in Texas, I would not go to work without a digital recorder running in my pocket anymore.
[01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:36.640]  And any time I'm talking to anyone, it would be on and running,
[01:35:36.640 --> 01:35:41.640]  especially if I was being cornered in an office.
[01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:43.640]  Okay.
[01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:49.640]  So first advice is start gathering the evidence you need to make the case you need.
[01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:51.640]  Now, I do have a copy of the HR guidelines.
[01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:56.640]  And that's the other big issue is they're wanting me to sign an acknowledgment sheet at the back of it
[01:35:56.640 --> 01:36:02.640]  stating that I acknowledge receipt of it, but it also says that I agree to these terms and conditions.
[01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:03.640]  And I don't.
[01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:05.640]  I don't agree to the terms and conditions.
[01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:10.640]  There's a lot of things in it such as we could do whatever we want retroactively.
[01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:17.640]  And I brought this up to them and they keep on insisting that I sign it.
[01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:18.640]  Okay.
[01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:23.640]  Well, again, there is such a thing as an unconscionable contract.
[01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:29.640]  So what they're trying to get you to sign, the first thing I'd recommend is you take that information out of those
[01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:32.640]  that they're trying to use to say they can go back and do certain things,
[01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:42.640]  compare those to whether or not those things would violate any right or law, and document that.
[01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:47.640]  Show the correlation between what the policy and procedures manual says
[01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:54.640]  versus what right and or law it would violate by being enforced in a particular way.
[01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:55.640]  Okay.
[01:36:55.640 --> 01:37:01.640]  Well, do you think that one person I talked to about this stated that I could just write on it,
[01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:10.640]  I acknowledge receipt of this document only, not that I agree with this document, and sign that.
[01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.640]  Does that make any difference or not?
[01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:14.640]  You know?
[01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:20.640]  The thing about it is the document, unless you lined through the agreement part when you did that,
[01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:23.640]  then it wouldn't make any difference.
[01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:24.640]  Okay.
[01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:29.640]  And if you did line through it, then they would not accept your signature on it anyway.
[01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:30.640]  Mm-hmm.
[01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:32.640]  Didn't they just fire me?
[01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:38.640]  Well, it really depends on what's in there.
[01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:45.640]  If they're trying to get you to sign something that causes you to waive any particular right you may have
[01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:49.640]  in order to work for them, they can't do that.
[01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:50.640]  Mm-hmm.
[01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:52.640]  All right?
[01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:57.640]  But if it's something they have a right to do because it's their business
[01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:01.640]  and it relates to their ability to function and operate,
[01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:06.640]  then there's not going to be a lot of opening there to say that they can't do it,
[01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:11.640]  and if you're not willing to work for a company that has the ability to do that,
[01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:16.640]  then you have the option of not working there at all or they can get rid of you.
[01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:21.640]  So the thing about retroactive is that, like they're saying that they can change anything retroactively
[01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:25.640]  and not even inform us.
[01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:32.640]  Well, again, whatever that thing is, you need to take whatever they can make as an application of that rule
[01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:42.640]  and see if it can be done in a way to violate a right or a law.
[01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:43.640]  Okay.
[01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:44.640]  Just take a specific example.
[01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:46.640]  In other words, some specific thing they're stating.
[01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:48.640]  Oh, well, we just made this up now.
[01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:49.640]  If you're out for this...
[01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:50.640]  Yeah.
[01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:53.640]  If it says that by signing this you agree to the policies and procedures,
[01:38:53.640 --> 01:39:03.640]  and one of those policy and procedures is you waive the right to sue regardless of the company's actions
[01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:06.640]  or liability in any other way.
[01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:07.640]  Right.
[01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:10.640]  They can't make you sign something like that.
[01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:11.640]  They can't.
[01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:13.640]  No.
[01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:17.640]  Now, that was in the offer letter, which I didn't sign because they never gave it to me,
[01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:23.640]  but it was in the offer letter that I waived my right to trial by jury and agree to arbitration only.
[01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:28.640]  Well, you don't have to agree to that either, and the question becomes is,
[01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:34.640]  did that letter, was it submitted as a condition of your employment?
[01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:39.640]  If it wasn't, then it's not binding upon you that you didn't sign it.
[01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:45.640]  If it was and you failed to sign it, you haven't complied with the conditions,
[01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:48.640]  and they have grounds to say you can't work here.
[01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:52.640]  You didn't abide by the rules we set to get hired.
[01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:56.640]  Now, the fact that you're already in the door...
[01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:02.640]  I mean, for instance, when I got out of the Air Force, I went to work for a defense contractor,
[01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:09.640]  but part of the requirements of me working for that defense contractor is that within 12 months,
[01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:13.640]  my security clearance must pass.
[01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:16.640]  I came out of the military with a top secret.
[01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.640]  I went into this job with a top secret,
[01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:28.640]  but they had to re-verify it for me to work for the private contractor versus the military.
[01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:39.640]  And if they did not re-verify it within 12 months of my getting hired, I would get fired.
[01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:45.640]  That was just a condition of employment, and it's possible that depending upon the way it's stated,
[01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:49.640]  that's all these things may be.
[01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.640]  Yes, it is stated as a term and condition of employment.
[01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:55.640]  It was stated that way in that letter, but they never gave me the letter.
[01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:57.640]  It was an error on the manager's part.
[01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:00.640]  The manager never signed it and I never signed it, and this was 10 months ago.
[01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:03.640]  So how does that affect it?
[01:41:03.640 --> 01:41:10.640]  Well, if you can show that it's honestly not been placed before you to be required to be signed,
[01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:15.640]  then you have an argument that I can't sign something I've never received notice of.
[01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:17.640]  Right, and they did admit that they never gave it to me.
[01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:20.640]  They said, we know you probably never got this, so it's not signed.
[01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:26.640]  Yeah, but did you ever receive notice that this letter was a condition for employment?
[01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:29.640]  The letter itself states, no.
[01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.640]  Yeah, but you didn't get the letter.
[01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:38.640]  No, no, I never even knew an offer letter existed until eight months later.
[01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:43.640]  Right, so you didn't get a letter, so you were not noticed ahead of time
[01:41:43.640 --> 01:41:47.640]  that a condition of your employment was that you had to sign the letter.
[01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:49.640]  Right, that's correct.
[01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:56.640]  Okay, so they can't hold that letter over you as binding, per se.
[01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:06.640]  Now, there may be certain statutory allowances in the terms of employment that they can still use it.
[01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:07.640]  I don't know.
[01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.640]  Employment law is also not my forte,
[01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:14.640]  except in certain things dealing with Social Security numbers and things of that nature.
[01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:24.640]  But outside of that, I can't really tell you what the Texas statutes are on a right-to-work state.
[01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.640]  Texas is an at-will employment state.
[01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:32.640]  Either party can terminate the other party at will.
[01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:34.640]  You can quit when you like.
[01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.640]  They can fire you when they like.
[01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:46.640]  Unless you have a contract that says your term of employment is fixed or perpetual,
[01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:50.640]  then you've got a breach of contract issue.
[01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:54.640]  No.
[01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:57.640]  Do you think the fact that they did not give me that letter
[01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.640]  and also that they did not give me a job description
[01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:08.640]  has anything to do with being able to argue misrepresentation or like fraud or deception about the job?
[01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:13.640]  No, because any employer, again, we're talking about an at-will state.
[01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:19.640]  Just because they give you one job description does not mean they can't change it.
[01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:22.640]  The company needs you to do a different task.
[01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:25.640]  They can give it to you.
[01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:33.640]  And as long as it doesn't cause you to break a law or violate your own rights or harm somebody else,
[01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:40.640]  then as the employee, you've been directed to do what the company asks.
[01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:47.640]  They don't have to give you a written job description in order to tell you this is what we want you to do.
[01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:49.640]  But hang on just a second, Barbara. We'll pick you up on the other side.
[01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:50.640]  Okay, thank you.
[01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:54.640]  This is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984.
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[01:46:50.640 --> 01:47:18.640]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. Alright Barbara, let's get you finished up here.
[01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:21.640]  Okay.
[01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:30.640]  Okay, but do you understand what we're talking about here? Texas is a will and that will employment state, you can quit, they can fire you.
[01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:40.640]  The only way that they can't do that is if you're in a job in which you have vested tenure, like a teacher, or something in a contract agreement
[01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:48.640]  that after this period of time or up to this period of time or whatever, then you are considered off probation and a permanent employee, whatever.
[01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:57.640]  It's just one of those things where you don't have to keep somebody hired in Texas and you don't have to keep working with somebody
[01:47:57.640 --> 01:48:03.640]  if they create a workplace environment that you consider unsuitable, unhealthy, or whatever.
[01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:07.640]  That I don't have to continue to work there?
[01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:16.640]  Correct. You have the right to leave if, for instance, they make it an unsafe work environment or a hostile work environment.
[01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:25.640]  You cannot, even if you had a contract, as long as you could prove that it was made a hostile workplace,
[01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:30.640]  then they could not hold you to the terms of the contract for quitting.
[01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:40.640]  Okay. Does the fact that I did not sign this letter have any bearing on it?
[01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:44.640]  Since I did not sign it, is it the same thing as saying I did not agree to it?
[01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:51.640]  Absolutely, because you had no notice that that was terms or conditions for your employment.
[01:48:51.640 --> 01:48:53.640]  That's what we discussed in the previous segment.
[01:48:53.640 --> 01:49:01.640]  Right. But the issue becomes that that's still not going to keep them from saying that, well, whether you sign it or not, we don't care.
[01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:06.640]  You're fired because it's an at-will employment state.
[01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:07.640]  Right.
[01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:14.640]  At-will also means that you can fire somebody, yes, for no reason, but you cannot fire them for an illegal reason.
[01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:19.640]  That's correct. You can't fire them for blowing the whistle on wrongdoing within the company, for instance.
[01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:20.640]  Right.
[01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:32.640]  You can't retaliate against them. You can't fire them simply because they reported an issue to an authority that the company was doing something,
[01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:38.640]  or because they made a legal claim against the company.
[01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:39.640]  Right.
[01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:43.640]  Those would be retaliatory firings. That they can't do.
[01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:51.640]  Right. And I have filed complaints against an agency with them, the Department of Insurance, but they'll just say that it's something different.
[01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:57.640]  But the last question I have for you just really is they did significantly change the term conditions,
[01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:08.640]  and they gave me no notice that these were even the job duties, i.e., this being assessed based on your revenue generation.
[01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:11.640]  That was never told me that had anything to do with this job. They just started...
[01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:19.640]  Yeah, but Eddie already said the way that the laws are in this state, they can change your job duties at any point in time.
[01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:24.640]  They can set the conditions.
[01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:31.640]  You don't have to have a job description in writing. It's like even if they did give you a job description in writing,
[01:50:31.640 --> 01:50:39.640]  if they ask you to do something else later on, that's okay. They can change your job duties at any time.
[01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:42.640]  If you don't like it, you don't have to work there.
[01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:45.640]  Okay. Well, thank you. I appreciate it so much. Thank you.
[01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:46.640]  All right. Thanks, Barbara.
[01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:47.640]  Thank you. Thank you.
[01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:48.640]  Okay. Bye-bye.
[01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:49.640]  Thank you. Bye-bye.
[01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:56.640]  All right. We are going on. We have Jack on the board. Jack, thank you for calling in.
[01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:58.640]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:14.640]  Well, I have several questions. I mean, you see, a friend of mine, he was, you know, he was like babysitting, you know?
[01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:21.640]  And, you know, it's like they left the dogs out of the house or something.
[01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:32.640]  And then the police came and gave him a ticket or, you know, asked him, you know, but he didn't even live there.
[01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:36.640]  He was a very good friend, you know, of the people.
[01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:49.640]  And they put all kinds of tickets to him because of these dogs, you know, because he let them outside, you know?
[01:51:49.640 --> 01:52:01.640]  And so it caused quite a few problems for him, you know, for those dogs, you know?
[01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:06.640]  Well, was he the one responsible for the caring of the dogs at that moment?
[01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.640]  At the moment, he was just babysitting and he just left the dogs out.
[01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:14.640]  Was he babysitting the dogs or was he babysitting a human being?
[01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:17.640]  He was babysitting some children.
[01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:21.640]  Okay. And so he was left in charge of the house, right?
[01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:23.640]  Yes, sir.
[01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:30.640]  Okay. Therefore, he's responsible for what goes on in the house while he's there, the one in charge, right?
[01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:31.640]  Yeah.
[01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:37.640]  And if he let the dogs out knowing that there's leash laws or things of that nature in the area,
[01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:47.640]  or even if he doesn't know that there are and he let the dogs out, is he responsible for releasing them?
[01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:56.640]  Okay. Well, I don't know.
[01:52:56.640 --> 01:53:07.640]  Okay. Then there's another, you know, this friend of mine, he's in our church and a few years ago,
[01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:12.640]  he built, you know, a shed on his property, right?
[01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:15.640]  And it costed him about $7,000.
[01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:23.640]  And then a few years went by and then they say, oh, you owe back taxes on this building that's on your place.
[01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:29.640]  He owed about $10,000 worth of back taxes for that building on his property there.
[01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:33.640]  What do you think about that?
[01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:40.640]  Well, I guess what he should have done is check to see whether or not that building could even be put on the property taxes or not.
[01:53:40.640 --> 01:53:45.640]  And again, where is the individual?
[01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.640]  Oh, where does he live?
[01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:50.640]  Is he in Texas?
[01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:53.640]  He lives in Texas, yeah.
[01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:55.640]  Okay.
[01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:58.640]  Well, I think he went ahead and paid it.
[01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:06.640]  It sure was a lot of money for them to ask for a building that he just happens to build on his place, you know, his land.
[01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:09.640]  And then they charged him all that money for it.
[01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:12.640]  That's a lot of money.
[01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:19.640]  Well, not arguing it's a lot of money, but if he didn't want to pay it, he should have found a reason why he didn't owe it.
[01:54:19.640 --> 01:54:22.640]  Yeah.
[01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:27.640]  Okay, listen, Jack, we do have one other caller on the board.
[01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:29.640]  You all have another caller?
[01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:30.640]  Yes.
[01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:34.640]  Oh, you want me to go ahead and go and call back later?
[01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:35.640]  Are you through?
[01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:36.640]  Well, we're coming up on the end of the show.
[01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:38.640]  Yeah, it's almost to the end of the show.
[01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:40.640]  We only have four minutes left in the show.
[01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:41.640]  Okay, I'll let you go.
[01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:43.640]  Okay, call us back on Thursday.
[01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:44.640]  All right.
[01:54:44.640 --> 01:54:45.640]  Okay, thanks.
[01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:46.640]  Okay.
[01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:47.640]  Okay, bye.
[01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:49.640]  All right, we're almost to the end of the show.
[01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:51.640]  All right, we've got Sean.
[01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:52.640]  Thank you, Sean.
[01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:54.640]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:54:54.640 --> 01:55:01.640]  Yeah, my license is expired, and I'm wanting to know what I'm risking driving with an expired license.
[01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:06.640]  It's better to turn it in and rescind it.
[01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:14.640]  It's better to turn it in and rescind it because, quote, unquote, driving with no license is a Class C misdemeanor.
[01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:18.640]  So driving with an expired license or suspended license is Class B?
[01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:19.640]  That's my understanding.
[01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:20.640]  Okay.
[01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:24.640]  It's Class B, but it's driving while license invalid.
[01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:33.640]  And for it to be invalid, it has to have expired during a period of suspension.
[01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:39.640]  The question becomes, do you have any suspensions out there?
[01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:47.640]  My suspension ended about two weeks ago, and I didn't realize that I had to do some stuff to get my license reinstated.
[01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:53.640]  Oh, okay, so it did expire during a state of suspension.
[01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:54.640]  Apparently.
[01:55:54.640 --> 01:55:56.640]  Okay, then that's a Class B misdemeanor.
[01:55:56.640 --> 01:55:59.640]  It's better to turn your license back in and rescind it.
[01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:04.640]  So turning it in means mailing it to them, or how do you do that?
[01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:11.640]  Whatever you do, you send it to them, certified mail with an affidavit explaining exactly what's in it,
[01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:16.640]  and you make sure they get verification that it was received on their end.
[01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:18.640]  Or you could go give it to them.
[01:56:18.640 --> 01:56:26.640]  Yeah, they can't charge you with a suspended license or driving while license invalid if you've surrendered the license
[01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:33.640]  because you don't have one, and they have to show that you had one in order to convict you of that.
[01:56:33.640 --> 01:56:42.640]  Okay, so in terms of if I get pulled over right now because I'm driving, do I get arrested on the spot?
[01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:50.640]  If you're driving while you have a suspended or expired license, absolutely.
[01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:56.640]  Now, whether or not they release you by signing the ticket, that's the cop's discretion.
[01:56:56.640 --> 01:57:04.640]  Okay, okay, so I'm glad I called you guys because I want to get my license back in the next week or so.
[01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:10.640]  So even if I give it back to them, I don't have to jump through any more hoops to go read and get a new license.
[01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:13.640]  If you turn it in, yeah, you'd have to get a brand new license.
[01:57:13.640 --> 01:57:19.640]  Well, they already told me that I have to retake the driving test and the written test because it's...
[01:57:19.640 --> 01:57:26.640]  Okay, if what you're trying to do is get out of paying the fees, forget it. That's not going to happen.
[01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:34.640]  I'm trying to minimize my risk of driving because I have to drive and I thought I was going to have my license back now.
[01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:37.640]  What do you mean you have to drive?
[01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:40.640]  What? What did you say?
[01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:42.640]  You mean you want to travel?
[01:57:42.640 --> 01:57:44.640]  What do you mean you have to drive?
[01:57:44.640 --> 01:57:50.640]  I mean, you're right. I don't have to drive. It's for a second job.
[01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:52.640]  I play in a band and I have to be certain places.
[01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:55.640]  That's traveling. That's not driving.
[01:57:55.640 --> 01:58:04.640]  Driving is when you are transporting goods or passengers for hire from point A to point B, goods that are not your own.
[01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:07.640]  Okay, okay. Sorry, I didn't understand.
[01:58:07.640 --> 01:58:10.640]  Yeah, driving is commerce on the roadways.
[01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:21.640]  Very few people actually need a driver's license, only taxi cab drivers, 18-wheeler truckers that haul loads and limo drivers, people like that.
[01:58:21.640 --> 01:58:29.640]  People going to and from work, they're not in commerce because you don't engage in commerce until you get to your destination.
[01:58:29.640 --> 01:58:33.640]  Going to work is not being in commerce on the roads.
[01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:37.640]  Well, the confusing thing was I had an occupational license for my suspension.
[01:58:37.640 --> 01:58:43.640]  All right, well, listen, Sean, we're out of time. The bumper music's playing. We have 15 seconds left. We'll have to talk about some more on Thursday.
[01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:44.640]  Okay, thanks.
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