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[00:00.000 --> 00:11.000]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech talk radio at its best.
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[00:25.000 --> 00:35.000]  At least 27 headless bodies were found Sunday on a farm in Guatemala near the Mexican border.
[00:35.000 --> 00:38.000]  Police say the killings could be linked to drug gangs.
[00:38.000 --> 00:43.000]  If so, they would be among the largest ever in Guatemala tied to narco traffickers.
[00:43.000 --> 00:48.000]  Guatemala has one of the highest murder rates in Latin America, averaging 18 a day.
[00:48.000 --> 00:55.000]  Rights activists said Monday at least 15 Syrian tanks have pushed into a rural area near the Lebanese border
[00:55.000 --> 01:00.000]  where security forces have been concentrating a crackdown against pro-democracy demonstrations.
[01:00.000 --> 01:05.000]  In the town of Talkalak, seven civilians were killed Sunday by army shells.
[01:05.000 --> 01:12.000]  Sniper fire killed another civilian Monday, raising the death toll from the army's assault to 12.
[01:12.000 --> 01:18.000]  Chinese authorities Sunday allowed the wife of detained artist and activist Ai Weiwei to meet him,
[01:18.000 --> 01:21.000]  breaking six weeks of isolation from his family.
[01:21.000 --> 01:29.000]  The couple's brief meeting comes amid an international outcry since the artist was detained at Beijing's International Airport on April 3rd.
[01:29.000 --> 01:38.000]  Ai is being investigated on suspicion of economic crimes, which his family has said are an excuse to gag his criticism of the government.
[01:38.000 --> 01:44.000]  Several people were killed and scores wounded Sunday in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt,
[01:44.000 --> 01:51.000]  as Arabs marked Nakba, meaning catastrophe, when 700,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled
[01:51.000 --> 01:55.000]  following Israel's declaration of statehood in 1948.
[01:55.000 --> 02:01.000]  Israeli troops fired on a march heading towards the Erez crossing between the Gaza Strip and Israel.
[02:01.000 --> 02:08.000]  In Gaza City, Palestinians, including children, were shot by Israeli soldiers after entering a buffer zone between checkpoints.
[02:08.000 --> 02:15.000]  Israeli gunfire killed up to 10 people and injured scores more in the Lebanese town of Ras Maroun.
[02:15.000 --> 02:21.000]  Syrian television reported Israeli forces Sunday killed four Syrians taking part in an anti-Israeli rally
[02:21.000 --> 02:25.000]  on the Syrian side of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights border.
[02:25.000 --> 02:31.000]  Israel accused Syria of trying to foment unrest to divert attention from its internal crisis.
[02:31.000 --> 02:39.000]  In Cairo, over 350 people were injured when Egyptian security forces attacked a pro-Palestine demonstration.
[02:39.000 --> 02:48.000]  16 people, including 11 Muslim clerics, were killed Friday in a NATO airstrike on the eastern Libyan city of Brega.
[02:48.000 --> 02:54.000]  An underground bunker designed to resist an atomic bomb was destroyed by NATO bunker-busting bombs.
[02:54.000 --> 03:01.000]  Dutch engineer Freek Landemeter said he built the bunker for Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in 1988,
[03:01.000 --> 03:05.000]  confirming that its coordinates matched those of the area NATO targeted.
[03:05.000 --> 03:10.000]  The Libyan government said 18 people had been killed in a NATO strike on a guest house.
[03:10.000 --> 03:14.000]  NATO dismissed the Libyan regime's account, saying the building was an underground bunker
[03:14.000 --> 03:27.000]  that had been clearly identified as a command and control center.
[04:15.000 --> 04:19.000]  You must get cool here on the Rule of Law.
[04:19.000 --> 04:22.000]  This is ruleoflawradio.com.
[04:22.000 --> 04:27.000]  Tonight is Monday, May 16, 2011.
[04:27.000 --> 04:28.000]  Tonight is Monday night.
[04:28.000 --> 04:31.000]  Monday nights are Eddie's night, traffic night.
[04:31.000 --> 04:35.000]  But before we turn it over to Eddie, I have a few announcements to make.
[04:35.000 --> 04:37.000]  House Bill 439.
[04:37.000 --> 04:39.000]  Ding dong, the witch is dead.
[04:39.000 --> 04:41.000]  House Bill 439 is dead.
[04:41.000 --> 04:45.000]  And I want to thank all you listeners out there who showed up at the committee hearing.
[04:45.000 --> 04:54.000]  This was the House Bill that would provide for these warrantless sobriety checkpoints.
[04:54.000 --> 04:56.000]  And I just got word today the bill is dead.
[04:56.000 --> 04:58.000]  It did not pass out of committee.
[04:58.000 --> 05:00.000]  It's still pending in committee.
[05:00.000 --> 05:06.000]  And pretty much any bill that has not passed out of committee by today is dead
[05:06.000 --> 05:11.000]  because there's not enough time for it to be, even if it passed out of committee next week,
[05:11.000 --> 05:17.000]  there's just not enough time left in the session of the legislature for the bills to be put on the calendar
[05:17.000 --> 05:22.000]  and be heard and then have time to go to the Senate and everything that they do there.
[05:22.000 --> 05:24.000]  So we're very happy.
[05:24.000 --> 05:25.000]  We want to thank all the listeners.
[05:25.000 --> 05:30.000]  And listeners, I want to thank you for your patience with me during that week.
[05:30.000 --> 05:35.000]  I think the archives, it was like five days went by where archives weren't posted.
[05:35.000 --> 05:38.000]  And I do apologize for that at that point in time.
[05:38.000 --> 05:45.000]  But I was spending all my time doing all the research that I discussed on the show a few weeks ago
[05:45.000 --> 05:52.000]  concerning how these sobriety checkpoints actually contribute to more drunk driving accidents
[05:52.000 --> 05:55.000]  and incidents than they prevent.
[05:55.000 --> 05:57.000]  In fact, they don't do anything at all.
[05:57.000 --> 05:59.000]  And they increase crime rate.
[05:59.000 --> 06:03.000]  At any rate, I did a whole show on the stats surrounding that.
[06:03.000 --> 06:09.000]  And that was my presentation that I presented to the committee hearing concerning those stats.
[06:09.000 --> 06:13.000]  I wrote up a 15-page report on all the statistics that I had found.
[06:13.000 --> 06:18.000]  And so I just want to thank the listeners for being patient with me during that time
[06:18.000 --> 06:24.000]  because I had to do everything that I needed to do that I could in my power to stop these sobriety checkpoints.
[06:24.000 --> 06:26.000]  And it looks like it works.
[06:26.000 --> 06:28.000]  It looks like all of us together, we actually made a difference.
[06:28.000 --> 06:31.000]  And I fully intend this bill is going to be introduced.
[06:31.000 --> 06:35.000]  I fully expect that this bill will be introduced again next session.
[06:35.000 --> 06:39.000]  But at least I've got a lot of the research, most of the research already done.
[06:39.000 --> 06:41.000]  I just have to update my stats at the time.
[06:41.000 --> 06:43.000]  So we are very happy.
[06:43.000 --> 06:44.000]  No sobriety checkpoints.
[06:44.000 --> 06:49.000]  And apparently, I would go so far as to say that the Real ID Act, Senate Bill 9,
[06:49.000 --> 06:54.000]  it looks like that one is killed too because even though it passed the Senate,
[06:54.000 --> 06:59.000]  it has not passed out of the committee in the House yet.
[06:59.000 --> 07:06.000]  And again, any bill that has not passed out of committee either in the House or the Senate by today,
[07:06.000 --> 07:11.000]  pretty much there's just not going to be enough time for it to continue.
[07:11.000 --> 07:15.000]  There still may be time for Senate Bill 9 though because it's already passed through the Senate.
[07:15.000 --> 07:20.000]  But any bill that originated in the House, if it hasn't passed out of House committee, for sure it's dead.
[07:20.000 --> 07:22.000]  So maybe I take that back.
[07:22.000 --> 07:24.000]  Senate Bill 9 may not be dead.
[07:24.000 --> 07:32.000]  But any bill in whatever chamber that it's originated in, if it has not passed out of its own committee yet,
[07:32.000 --> 07:34.000]  it's dead as of today.
[07:34.000 --> 07:35.000]  So we're very happy about that.
[07:35.000 --> 07:41.000]  And the other announcement I was going to make, folks here in Austin, probably I've already heard the PSA,
[07:41.000 --> 07:50.000]  this Thursday, if you're in the Austin area, there is a fundraiser for the micro, for 90.1, for the legal funds.
[07:50.000 --> 07:52.000]  We need to raise money.
[07:52.000 --> 07:57.000]  The court case is about to take to the next stage.
[07:57.000 --> 08:04.000]  And it's coming to an end of the district court process.
[08:04.000 --> 08:08.000]  And it will be time to go to appeal soon.
[08:08.000 --> 08:18.000]  And whether or not the case is won at the district court level doesn't matter because if the micro wins,
[08:18.000 --> 08:20.000]  the DOJ is going to appeal.
[08:20.000 --> 08:22.000]  If the DOJ wins, the micro is going to appeal.
[08:22.000 --> 08:24.000]  So either way, it's going to the appellate court.
[08:24.000 --> 08:27.000]  Likely this case could even reach the Supreme Court.
[08:27.000 --> 08:36.000]  So the point being, we need to raise funds to continue the battle at the appellate level for 90.1.
[08:36.000 --> 08:40.000]  And so we are having a fundraiser.
[08:40.000 --> 08:45.000]  Actually, one of our listeners has taken it upon himself, a gentleman by the name of Josh.
[08:45.000 --> 08:48.000]  He has put together a fundraiser.
[08:48.000 --> 08:53.000]  His band, Higher Than Why, is going to be playing.
[08:53.000 --> 08:58.000]  My band, Three Shoes Posse, is also going to be playing.
[08:58.000 --> 09:01.000]  This is Josh Logan of Higher Than Why.
[09:01.000 --> 09:03.000]  He organized the event.
[09:03.000 --> 09:07.000]  And it is total, this is divine intervention.
[09:07.000 --> 09:14.000]  This had to be God-inspired because the funds are needed at this time coming up within the next few weeks.
[09:14.000 --> 09:17.000]  And listeners who have donated the silver,
[09:17.000 --> 09:20.000]  we did reach our goal of 200 ounces of silver.
[09:20.000 --> 09:21.000]  That was quite a while back.
[09:21.000 --> 09:27.000]  And that was to pay for additional assistance of counsel for the legal team,
[09:27.000 --> 09:31.000]  to put together a legal team to defend the micro.
[09:31.000 --> 09:33.000]  That did not go to me, by the way.
[09:33.000 --> 09:35.000]  I am one of the assistants of counsel.
[09:35.000 --> 09:38.000]  But that silver did not go into my pocket.
[09:38.000 --> 09:48.000]  That went to pay to hire other very well-experienced former attorneys that are totally devoted to the cause.
[09:48.000 --> 09:51.000]  That went to pay for their legal services.
[09:51.000 --> 09:58.000]  So that silver has already been well put to good use, I would say.
[09:58.000 --> 10:00.000]  We have an excellent legal team for the micro.
[10:00.000 --> 10:05.000]  But we do need to raise the funds to continue the battle for the appeal.
[10:05.000 --> 10:12.000]  So that fundraiser is going to be this Thursday, May 19th, at the ND Club.
[10:12.000 --> 10:15.000]  That's N as in Nancy, D as in David.
[10:15.000 --> 10:18.000]  The ND Club at 501 Brushy.
[10:18.000 --> 10:23.000]  It's basically right on the corner of I-35 at 5th Street, 501 Brushy.
[10:23.000 --> 10:25.000]  It's about one block to the east.
[10:25.000 --> 10:26.000]  It's on the east side.
[10:26.000 --> 10:28.000]  It's a fantastic venue.
[10:28.000 --> 10:31.000]  I'm so happy that we're having the event there.
[10:31.000 --> 10:34.000]  It's an indoor club, air conditioning.
[10:34.000 --> 10:41.000]  And folks who are in the music business in Austin know that it is very nice to,
[10:41.000 --> 10:48.000]  when you have a gig, to actually play at a club that's indoors with air conditioning and a nice sound system.
[10:48.000 --> 10:49.000]  So I'm very happy.
[10:49.000 --> 10:51.000]  We don't have to lug our own sound system.
[10:51.000 --> 10:53.000]  We're playing, Three Shoes Posse is playing.
[10:53.000 --> 10:57.000]  The event is going to be starting at 9 p.m.
[10:57.000 --> 11:03.000]  The host of Truth Exposed Radio here on Rule of Law Radio Network at Wednesdays at 6.
[11:03.000 --> 11:07.000]  Matt Medina and Cody Hess, they are coming up from San Antonio for the event.
[11:07.000 --> 11:08.000]  They're going to be speaking.
[11:08.000 --> 11:11.000]  Vote Rescue is going to be there.
[11:11.000 --> 11:17.000]  Fluoride Free Austin and also Texans for Accountable Government will all have tables there.
[11:17.000 --> 11:22.000]  This will be a wonderful opportunity to educate folks who haven't quite woke up yet
[11:22.000 --> 11:30.000]  because Josh's band has a huge following that is not quite awake yet.
[11:30.000 --> 11:35.000]  And so there will be a lot of folks there that will have the opportunity to wake up.
[11:35.000 --> 11:37.000]  And so that is this Thursday.
[11:37.000 --> 11:43.000]  That is this Thursday at the ND Club, 501 Brushy Street.
[11:43.000 --> 11:49.000]  501 Brushy, that is the corner, near the corner of 5th at I-35 on the east side.
[11:49.000 --> 11:52.000]  At 10 p.m. we're going to be playing Three Shoes Posse.
[11:52.000 --> 11:56.000]  And then at 11, his band will be playing right after 11.
[11:56.000 --> 12:02.000]  Then at midnight there will be an open mic night for poets, rappers, DJs to get up
[12:02.000 --> 12:03.000]  and rap in Josh's band.
[12:03.000 --> 12:04.000]  We'll be backing that up.
[12:04.000 --> 12:06.000]  So those are my announcements.
[12:06.000 --> 12:07.000]  Okay.
[12:07.000 --> 12:11.000]  And without further ado, we'll turn the show over to Eddie now.
[12:11.000 --> 12:13.000]  Well, good evening, everybody.
[12:13.000 --> 12:15.000]  Thanks for listening in.
[12:15.000 --> 12:20.000]  Tonight I want to go over some of the stuff that we deal with in these,
[12:20.000 --> 12:27.000]  what were our Saturday and are now our Sunday training seminars for how to take a case
[12:27.000 --> 12:35.000]  to court regarding traffic citations or other misdemeanor type situations.
[12:35.000 --> 12:39.000]  One of the things that I teach in the seminar is this.
[12:39.000 --> 12:46.000]  No one can teach an individual how to think on their feet.
[12:46.000 --> 12:53.000]  If you make the choice that you're going to go out and fight a traffic ticket
[12:53.000 --> 13:00.000]  or some other alleged thing that they accused you of, okay,
[13:00.000 --> 13:06.000]  then you need to make the decision whether or not you're going to dedicate yourself to that.
[13:06.000 --> 13:10.000]  And when I say dedicate, I simply mean this.
[13:10.000 --> 13:18.000]  Are you willing to make the time and effort available to yourself to ensure that you know
[13:18.000 --> 13:23.000]  what you need to know, that you have done what you need to do,
[13:23.000 --> 13:29.000]  and that you have made a plan of action for how to implement those things?
[13:29.000 --> 13:38.000]  Case in point, had Deborah gone to federal court to deal with the micro information case
[13:38.000 --> 13:44.000]  and everything without sitting down and doing her research, writing the briefs that she did,
[13:44.000 --> 13:51.000]  putting the effort into knowing what the argument was, what the rules were,
[13:51.000 --> 13:58.000]  this would have already been over and it would not have resulted in any benefit to us whatsoever.
[13:58.000 --> 14:05.000]  Same thing applies to your traffic case or your misdemeanor case, regardless of what it is.
[14:05.000 --> 14:08.000]  I can teach you the procedure.
[14:08.000 --> 14:14.000]  I can teach you what to listen for.
[14:14.000 --> 14:19.000]  I can teach you how to address what comes up.
[14:19.000 --> 14:27.000]  What I cannot teach you is to listen to what you're hearing so that you can analyze it,
[14:27.000 --> 14:31.000]  take it apart, know how to use it for your own benefit,
[14:31.000 --> 14:36.000]  and how to destroy the other side with their very own testimony.
[14:36.000 --> 14:43.000]  That's something that I can teach you to look for, but you still have to make the effort to do.
[14:43.000 --> 14:49.000]  The thinking on your feet part comes into play right there when you're listening to this.
[14:49.000 --> 14:54.000]  You have to be analyzing what you can do with it.
[14:54.000 --> 14:57.000]  How can you use it to your advantage?
[14:57.000 --> 14:59.000]  Who said it?
[14:59.000 --> 15:04.000]  What were the situational circumstances under which they gave the testimony?
[15:04.000 --> 15:07.000]  Who opened up that leg of testimony for you?
[15:07.000 --> 15:12.000]  Was it the prosecutor themselves or was it the prosecution's witness?
[15:12.000 --> 15:19.000]  These are all things that you need to be observant of when you're conducting a trial.
[15:19.000 --> 15:27.000]  Now, as a defendant, you don't have to prove or disprove anything,
[15:27.000 --> 15:35.000]  but I can guarantee you that if you don't make the effort to discredit the other side,
[15:35.000 --> 15:39.000]  it will be the same as admitting guilt,
[15:39.000 --> 15:46.000]  because unless you know exactly how the other side has not proved their case
[15:46.000 --> 15:53.000]  and you can make the argument that you deserve a directed verdict,
[15:53.000 --> 15:59.000]  then the jury is going to go with whoever gave them the most information, right or wrong.
[15:59.000 --> 16:04.000]  They're going to go with whoever gave them the most information.
[16:04.000 --> 16:08.000]  So you need to be able to be involved in your own defense.
[16:08.000 --> 16:11.000]  You're not going to prove you're innocent.
[16:11.000 --> 16:17.000]  You're going to prove the other side is misrepresenting the facts,
[16:17.000 --> 16:21.000]  and you have to be able to pay attention to do that.
[16:21.000 --> 16:23.000]  You have to know what to listen for.
[16:23.000 --> 16:27.000]  You have to know what the law is,
[16:27.000 --> 16:31.000]  because when they misstate what the law is,
[16:31.000 --> 16:36.000]  in order to get a conviction on you, you have to be able to counter that.
[16:36.000 --> 16:40.000]  I'll go into a couple of examples on the other side of the break.
[16:40.000 --> 16:42.000]  So when we get back, we'll get that covered.
[16:42.000 --> 16:46.000]  Call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[16:46.000 --> 16:49.000]  Give me one more second before you start loading up the boards.
[16:49.000 --> 16:52.000]  Full of Law Radio, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton.
[16:52.000 --> 16:58.000]  We'll be right back.
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[19:10.000 --> 19:35.000]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[19:35.000 --> 19:38.000]  Eddie's just about to get into some examples.
[19:38.000 --> 19:43.000]  I'm sorry, I forgot to announce part of the announcement about the event on Thursday.
[19:43.000 --> 19:45.000]  Like I said, it starts at 9 p.m.
[19:45.000 --> 19:49.000]  There's going to be some speakers from 9 to 10.
[19:49.000 --> 19:51.000]  Three Shoes Posse is going to play from 10 to 11.
[19:51.000 --> 19:53.000]  It also is our CD release,
[19:53.000 --> 19:58.000]  so folks can get our new CDs for Route 1 and Three Shoes Posse there.
[19:58.000 --> 20:01.000]  And we will be running archives on Thursday evening.
[20:01.000 --> 20:04.000]  Tom Kiley's show is going to be an archive from 6 to 8,
[20:04.000 --> 20:06.000]  and we're going to run an archive also from 8 to 10
[20:06.000 --> 20:08.000]  because we're all going to be out at the event.
[20:08.000 --> 20:11.000]  So just to let folks know, Thursday will be archive night
[20:11.000 --> 20:14.000]  because of the fundraiser event for 9.1.
[20:14.000 --> 20:18.000]  So if y'all want to call, y'all better get in line tonight.
[20:18.000 --> 20:19.000]  So that's all.
[20:19.000 --> 20:20.000]  All right, go ahead, Eddie.
[20:20.000 --> 20:22.000]  Okay.
[20:22.000 --> 20:25.000]  Let's take an example here, for instance.
[20:25.000 --> 20:28.000]  Those of you that have the seminar material
[20:28.000 --> 20:31.000]  or that have been down to one of our regular seminars
[20:31.000 --> 20:34.000]  or have listened to me on this show for very much,
[20:34.000 --> 20:37.000]  you know I've talked many times about many sections
[20:37.000 --> 20:39.000]  of the transportation code.
[20:39.000 --> 20:42.000]  Let's take an example of a speeding trial.
[20:42.000 --> 20:46.000]  I bring that up because I attended one today
[20:46.000 --> 20:48.000]  and watched the presentation.
[20:48.000 --> 20:54.000]  So this is how the setup occurred by the prosecution
[20:54.000 --> 20:57.000]  and his witness, which is the police officer.
[20:57.000 --> 21:01.000]  This is what they did that the defendant,
[21:01.000 --> 21:05.000]  whether it be you or someone else, can seize upon
[21:05.000 --> 21:10.000]  to build and introduce portions of the transportation code
[21:10.000 --> 21:13.000]  that will help you win your case
[21:13.000 --> 21:15.000]  and will also help put in the record
[21:15.000 --> 21:18.000]  that it's a commercial code,
[21:18.000 --> 21:21.000]  something that everybody that follows behind you
[21:21.000 --> 21:24.000]  can make use of.
[21:24.000 --> 21:27.000]  But let's go into exactly how this came today.
[21:27.000 --> 21:31.000]  The prosecuting attorney has the police officer on the stand
[21:31.000 --> 21:34.000]  and he's asking several questions about the specific location
[21:34.000 --> 21:37.000]  involved in the ticketing situation.
[21:37.000 --> 21:41.000]  The street was allegedly, the officer drew it
[21:41.000 --> 21:43.000]  as being straight as an arrow.
[21:43.000 --> 21:46.000]  The defendant actually brought in a Google map
[21:46.000 --> 21:50.000]  of the particular street and it's kind of bowed.
[21:50.000 --> 21:52.000]  It's got a great big curve in it.
[21:52.000 --> 21:54.000]  But the officer displayed it for the jury
[21:54.000 --> 21:57.000]  as if it was arrow straight.
[21:57.000 --> 22:02.000]  So the defense could have assisted themselves quite well
[22:02.000 --> 22:07.000]  had they taken the opportunity to present the map
[22:07.000 --> 22:11.000]  on the whiteboard alongside what the officer was doing
[22:11.000 --> 22:14.000]  and then had the officer testify to something
[22:14.000 --> 22:16.000]  that's actually more accurate
[22:16.000 --> 22:20.000]  to the actual topographical situation.
[22:20.000 --> 22:23.000]  Because one of the things that the prosecutor asked
[22:23.000 --> 22:27.000]  the officer was, what was in your field of view
[22:27.000 --> 22:31.000]  between where you were parked and running your radar unit
[22:31.000 --> 22:37.000]  and the defendant's motor vehicle and so on and so forth?
[22:37.000 --> 22:39.000]  And the officer's testifying, well, there's nothing.
[22:39.000 --> 22:43.000]  Well, he says there's a park in that general vicinity,
[22:43.000 --> 22:46.000]  which to me usually means there are probably trees
[22:46.000 --> 22:48.000]  at least around the edges of the park
[22:48.000 --> 22:51.000]  where the officer would have been situated.
[22:51.000 --> 22:53.000]  So were there trees between the officer
[22:53.000 --> 22:55.000]  and the oncoming traffic?
[22:55.000 --> 22:59.000]  Since radar functions in a cone
[22:59.000 --> 23:02.000]  starting at the source of the radar gun
[23:02.000 --> 23:04.000]  and moving outward and expanding
[23:04.000 --> 23:07.000]  as a cone would in that direction,
[23:07.000 --> 23:11.000]  imagine the old rounded ice cream cones, if you will,
[23:11.000 --> 23:13.000]  with the pointed bottom and the wide open top.
[23:13.000 --> 23:16.000]  That's exactly the type of cone of energy
[23:16.000 --> 23:19.000]  that comes out of a radar gun.
[23:19.000 --> 23:23.000]  Since the radar gun is not targetable,
[23:23.000 --> 23:27.000]  meaning it cannot identify the object it's clocking
[23:27.000 --> 23:29.000]  and giving the reading on,
[23:29.000 --> 23:34.000]  any moving object within the area of that cone
[23:34.000 --> 23:37.000]  can be causing the reading the gun
[23:37.000 --> 23:40.000]  is projecting to the officer.
[23:40.000 --> 23:42.000]  So this would mean if there was another car
[23:42.000 --> 23:45.000]  coming along behind the defendant,
[23:45.000 --> 23:48.000]  if there's another car going in the opposite direction
[23:48.000 --> 23:50.000]  from the defendant,
[23:50.000 --> 23:52.000]  if there's cross traffic on the highway,
[23:52.000 --> 23:55.000]  on the overpass behind the defendant,
[23:55.000 --> 23:57.000]  so on or so forth.
[23:57.000 --> 24:00.000]  Any of that could have given a false reading
[24:00.000 --> 24:02.000]  back to that radar gun
[24:02.000 --> 24:06.000]  because the officer cannot positively identify
[24:06.000 --> 24:10.000]  what object produced that reading.
[24:10.000 --> 24:15.000]  That's just the basics of radar, okay?
[24:15.000 --> 24:18.000]  Unless you have a particular type of radar
[24:18.000 --> 24:21.000]  that's capable of target identification,
[24:21.000 --> 24:25.000]  which a radar gun is not,
[24:25.000 --> 24:29.000]  it's impossible for the officer to correctly identify
[24:29.000 --> 24:32.000]  where that reading came from.
[24:32.000 --> 24:34.000]  All he can do is guess.
[24:34.000 --> 24:36.000]  Even if that automobile was coming at him
[24:36.000 --> 24:39.000]  with no other traffic,
[24:39.000 --> 24:44.000]  and all that was behind him is, say for instance, a hill.
[24:44.000 --> 24:48.000]  That hill has been known to give false readings
[24:48.000 --> 24:50.000]  to a radar gun.
[24:50.000 --> 24:52.000]  I've actually seen radar gun tests.
[24:52.000 --> 24:54.000]  They point them at a hill.
[24:54.000 --> 24:58.000]  The hill's going 35 miles an hour.
[24:58.000 --> 25:01.000]  What's wrong with this picture?
[25:01.000 --> 25:06.000]  So there's no way the officer can positively identify
[25:06.000 --> 25:09.000]  what vehicle or what object
[25:09.000 --> 25:12.000]  caused that reading on the radar gun.
[25:12.000 --> 25:16.000]  That's problem number one with radar.
[25:16.000 --> 25:20.000]  Now, the other thing that the prosecution laid
[25:20.000 --> 25:25.000]  for the defendant in the form of foundation is this.
[25:25.000 --> 25:28.000]  He specifically asked the officer
[25:28.000 --> 25:33.000]  if this particular stretch of street or road
[25:33.000 --> 25:36.000]  had any speed indicators on it,
[25:36.000 --> 25:40.000]  such as speed signs.
[25:40.000 --> 25:43.000]  The moment the prosecutor brought that up
[25:43.000 --> 25:46.000]  and the officer testified to it,
[25:46.000 --> 25:50.000]  that is open season for the defendant.
[25:50.000 --> 25:54.000]  The defendant can take that testimony,
[25:54.000 --> 25:57.000]  and he can use it to build upon
[25:57.000 --> 26:05.000]  to introduce the transportation code section 201.904,
[26:05.000 --> 26:09.000]  because the prosecution and his witness were so kind
[26:09.000 --> 26:12.000]  to establish it in the record for you.
[26:12.000 --> 26:16.000]  All you have to do is take that foundation
[26:16.000 --> 26:20.000]  laid by opposing counsel and his witness
[26:20.000 --> 26:24.000]  and set it up for your own use.
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  Easy enough to do.
[26:26.000 --> 26:30.000]  Prosecuting attorney has asked the officer this question.
[26:30.000 --> 26:32.000]  The officer has testified, yes,
[26:32.000 --> 26:35.000]  there are speed signs on that stretch of road,
[26:35.000 --> 26:38.000]  and in the direction the defendant was traveling,
[26:38.000 --> 26:41.000]  the speed is 35 miles an hour.
[26:41.000 --> 26:43.000]  Great.
[26:43.000 --> 26:45.000]  Now, when it's the defendant's turn
[26:45.000 --> 26:49.000]  to cross-examine the witness,
[26:49.000 --> 26:52.000]  it becomes a real simple thing.
[26:52.000 --> 26:57.000]  Officer Jones, you testified earlier
[26:57.000 --> 27:00.000]  that this street has speed signs on it.
[27:00.000 --> 27:02.000]  Is that correct?
[27:02.000 --> 27:04.000]  Yes, it is.
[27:04.000 --> 27:06.000]  And you also testified that that speed sign
[27:06.000 --> 27:10.000]  indicated that the traffic flow on it
[27:10.000 --> 27:15.000]  had a maximum speed limit of 35 miles an hour.
[27:15.000 --> 27:17.000]  Is that correct?
[27:17.000 --> 27:19.000]  Yes, it is.
[27:19.000 --> 27:22.000]  Officer Jones, you also testified
[27:22.000 --> 27:26.000]  that the defendant was in a motor vehicle.
[27:26.000 --> 27:28.000]  Do you recall testifying to that?
[27:28.000 --> 27:30.000]  Yes, I do.
[27:30.000 --> 27:37.000]  Officer Jones, is a motor vehicle and a commercial motor vehicle
[27:37.000 --> 27:39.000]  the same thing?
[27:39.000 --> 27:41.000]  Yes or no?
[27:41.000 --> 27:44.000]  Now, quick break-in note here.
[27:44.000 --> 27:49.000]  It does not matter how the officer answers this question.
[27:49.000 --> 27:58.000]  No matter what, 201.904 is going to destroy his testimony.
[27:58.000 --> 28:01.000]  And here's how.
[28:01.000 --> 28:06.000]  If the officer says, no, they are not the same thing.
[28:06.000 --> 28:09.000]  A motor vehicle and a commercial motor vehicle
[28:09.000 --> 28:13.000]  are not the same thing.
[28:13.000 --> 28:15.000]  Great.
[28:15.000 --> 28:21.000]  So, officer, the automobile that I was in
[28:21.000 --> 28:23.000]  is not a commercial motor vehicle.
[28:23.000 --> 28:25.000]  Is that correct?
[28:25.000 --> 28:28.000]  That is correct.
[28:28.000 --> 28:33.000]  Are you familiar, officer, with the statute governing
[28:33.000 --> 28:36.000]  speed signs in Texas?
[28:36.000 --> 28:38.000]  Well, no, I'm not.
[28:38.000 --> 28:41.000]  But you testified that speed sign applies to
[28:41.000 --> 28:43.000]  the defendant's automobile.
[28:43.000 --> 28:45.000]  Did you not?
[28:45.000 --> 28:48.000]  Yes, I did.
[28:48.000 --> 28:53.000]  The defendant moves the court to make an offer of proof
[28:53.000 --> 28:59.000]  that the officer's testimony is false.
[28:59.000 --> 29:03.000]  The defense would like to introduce, for the record,
[29:03.000 --> 29:09.000]  Section 201.904 of the Texas Transportation Code,
[29:09.000 --> 29:15.000]  which specifically states that the state or the department,
[29:15.000 --> 29:18.000]  meaning the Department of Transportation,
[29:18.000 --> 29:23.000]  shall have the authority to erect upon the roads and highways of this state
[29:23.000 --> 29:28.000]  speed signs for the purpose of regulating the speed of
[29:28.000 --> 29:33.000]  commercial motor vehicles, semis, semi-tractor trailers,
[29:33.000 --> 29:36.000]  and commercial motor vehicles for the transportation of passengers
[29:36.000 --> 29:39.000]  for hire, meaning buses.
[29:39.000 --> 29:42.000]  It's all about commerce.
[29:42.000 --> 29:43.000]  All right, folks, hang in there.
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[32:17.000 --> 32:24.000]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[32:24.000 --> 32:31.000]  Right now, we're going over a real quick setup on how to build upon a foundation in a traffic case
[32:31.000 --> 32:38.000]  dealing with speeding that has laid for us complements of the prosecution.
[32:38.000 --> 32:45.000]  Now, at this point, we've got the officer to admit or to testify that in his opinion,
[32:45.000 --> 32:50.000]  a motor vehicle and a commercial motor vehicle are not the same thing.
[32:50.000 --> 32:57.000]  The officer has attempted to testify that the Defendant's automobile is a motor vehicle.
[32:57.000 --> 33:02.000]  The first time they made that assertion, you should have objected already,
[33:02.000 --> 33:06.000]  because that assumes facts not in evidence.
[33:06.000 --> 33:13.000]  But if you fail to do that, they're going to proceed on calling your automobile a motor vehicle.
[33:13.000 --> 33:18.000]  But when the officer testifies that in his professional opinion,
[33:18.000 --> 33:24.000]  a motor vehicle and a commercial motor vehicle are not the same thing,
[33:24.000 --> 33:30.000]  201.904 is going to destroy the charge of speeding.
[33:30.000 --> 33:36.000]  Because once you get it introduced, as we did right before break when we said,
[33:36.000 --> 33:45.000]  we make an offer of proof that if the Defendant was in a motor vehicle and not a commercial motor vehicle,
[33:45.000 --> 33:51.000]  then the officer's testimony regarding speeding is absolutely false.
[33:51.000 --> 34:02.000]  Because the officer is using law that says it applies only to commercial motor vehicles.
[34:02.000 --> 34:08.000]  Therefore, it cannot be applied to the Defendant because the officer's also testified
[34:08.000 --> 34:12.000]  that they are not in a commercial motor vehicle.
[34:12.000 --> 34:16.000]  They cannot have their cake and eat it too.
[34:16.000 --> 34:22.000]  Now let's attack it from the standpoint that the officer says a motor vehicle
[34:22.000 --> 34:27.000]  and a commercial motor vehicle are in fact the same thing.
[34:27.000 --> 34:32.000]  Now all the Defendant has to do is ask the officer,
[34:32.000 --> 34:41.000]  what type of commercial motor vehicle do you testify that the Defendant was operating?
[34:41.000 --> 34:53.000]  Was it some sort of carrier for hire? Was it a bus? Was it a taxi cab? Was it a limousine?
[34:53.000 --> 35:04.000]  What evidence do you have that the Defendant was operating a commercial motor vehicle for commercial purposes?
[35:04.000 --> 35:09.000]  Where do you get your evidence to make that assertion?
[35:09.000 --> 35:14.000]  So he's going to go, well, I don't need evidence for that.
[35:14.000 --> 35:20.000]  Oh yes, you do. You're making the accusation that I was operating as a commercial motor vehicle.
[35:20.000 --> 35:24.000]  Where's your proof?
[35:24.000 --> 35:29.000]  And if you're making the assertion, what does the speed rules require of that?
[35:29.000 --> 35:37.000]  And it gives you very clearly right there, again, commercial motor vehicle, semi, semi-tractor trailer, trailer,
[35:37.000 --> 35:45.000]  and commercial motor vehicle for the transportation of passengers for hire, meaning buses.
[35:45.000 --> 35:54.000]  Right there with a single statute, you've proven a charge of speeding completely false in its application,
[35:54.000 --> 35:58.000]  and you never had to get on the stand to do it.
[35:58.000 --> 36:07.000]  You got the opposing counsel star witness to become your star witness.
[36:07.000 --> 36:16.000]  But in order to make this happen, you must have done your due diligence to learn the statutes you needed to counter the accusation.
[36:16.000 --> 36:19.000]  You know you're being faced with a charge of speeding.
[36:19.000 --> 36:26.000]  It would behoove you to become as knowledgeable as possible regarding the statutes that deal with speeding
[36:26.000 --> 36:37.000]  and anything associated with governing that particular alleged offense, such as the speed signs.
[36:37.000 --> 36:43.000]  Okay? You must make due diligent effort to become educated on these facts.
[36:43.000 --> 36:49.000]  Then you must be able to use those to your advantage in court.
[36:49.000 --> 36:57.000]  That's where being able to think on your feet and situationally, you take what's being done right then,
[36:57.000 --> 37:04.000]  knowing what you have to defend against because you know what the other side must prove.
[37:04.000 --> 37:12.000]  So you prepared your counter arguments to what they must prove.
[37:12.000 --> 37:14.000]  That's really all there is to it.
[37:14.000 --> 37:21.000]  Just like Dr. Graves says, they offer what they believe is the evidence that proves you guilty,
[37:21.000 --> 37:29.000]  you offer what you can show is the counter evidence that says you're mistaken.
[37:29.000 --> 37:38.000]  But if you don't put the time and effort into doing that, guess what the end result of this trial is going to be?
[37:38.000 --> 37:42.000]  It's not going to be in your favor.
[37:42.000 --> 37:47.000]  Okay? I guarantee you it's not going to be in your favor.
[37:47.000 --> 37:55.000]  I will tell you, however, that you never, ever go to a bench trial in Texas.
[37:55.000 --> 37:59.000]  You go to a trial before a jury.
[37:59.000 --> 38:02.000]  Never, ever go before a magistrate.
[38:02.000 --> 38:07.000]  If you think he's willing to violate the law when it's just you and him in the beginning,
[38:07.000 --> 38:12.000]  wait until it's you and him or her at trial.
[38:12.000 --> 38:15.000]  Austin is a perfect example.
[38:15.000 --> 38:23.000]  Out of some 17,000 cases that were held in front of a judge,
[38:23.000 --> 38:29.000]  92 were dismissed out of 17,000 plus.
[38:29.000 --> 38:42.000]  Out of 26,000 in front of a jury, what is it, 3,400 plus were dismissed.
[38:42.000 --> 38:52.000]  Your odds go up exponentially with a jury because the judge must be more careful
[38:52.000 --> 38:56.000]  in what they allow to go on in the courtroom.
[38:56.000 --> 39:07.000]  And the judge also is not the one that gets to decide everything like they are in a bench trial.
[39:07.000 --> 39:11.000]  Now, there was opportunity in the case I went down and witnessed today
[39:11.000 --> 39:15.000]  to get the entire jury panel recused.
[39:15.000 --> 39:22.000]  The prosecuting attorney made certain that opportunity existed.
[39:22.000 --> 39:32.000]  The complaint in the case clearly stated that the defendant was being charged under a municipal ordinance.
[39:32.000 --> 39:41.000]  Nowhere in the complaint did it specify a state law violation under the transportation code.
[39:41.000 --> 39:52.000]  However, the complaint was defective because it did not specify anything regarding and against said ordinance
[39:52.000 --> 39:57.000]  in the conclusion of the complaint, which it must do if it alleges an ordinance.
[39:57.000 --> 40:00.000]  And it didn't have that.
[40:00.000 --> 40:06.000]  The other problem is that the prosecutor, while he was doing his jury voir dire,
[40:06.000 --> 40:13.000]  blatantly misrepresented the facts of the complaint to the jury pool.
[40:13.000 --> 40:22.000]  He told them the defendant was being charged and tried under a transportation code violation
[40:22.000 --> 40:28.000]  when the complaint clearly stated it was a city ordinance.
[40:28.000 --> 40:38.000]  He then stated to the jury pool that all they had to prove was that the individual went faster than the posted speed limit.
[40:38.000 --> 40:41.000]  That is a blatant lie.
[40:41.000 --> 40:46.000]  That is not all they have to prove.
[40:46.000 --> 40:53.000]  But again, if you're not paying attention as a defendant, if you're not listening as a defendant,
[40:53.000 --> 41:02.000]  and you don't object to what this prosecutor is doing to taint the whole jury pool, guess what?
[41:02.000 --> 41:09.000]  It's going to slide, and they're going to be in the jury box ready to pronounce you guilty
[41:09.000 --> 41:18.000]  because you did not object to the prosecution corrupting the jury pool with the misstatement of facts
[41:18.000 --> 41:21.000]  and the misrepresentation of the law.
[41:21.000 --> 41:25.000]  They're not allowed to do that.
[41:25.000 --> 41:30.000]  It is perfectly okay for you to object when they do that.
[41:30.000 --> 41:35.000]  And if the judge doesn't want to listen, then object to that too.
[41:35.000 --> 41:41.000]  Objection, Judge, that's prosecutorial misconduct.
[41:41.000 --> 41:47.000]  You need to listen to this objection.
[41:47.000 --> 41:49.000]  This violates my rights.
[41:49.000 --> 41:56.000]  You don't have the power to just railroad me and violate my rights.
[41:56.000 --> 42:02.000]  This is a due process issue.
[42:02.000 --> 42:05.000]  You can do that.
[42:05.000 --> 42:15.000]  But if you let the judge intimidate you or you lose cognitive ability about making your objection,
[42:15.000 --> 42:17.000]  you're going to get railroaded.
[42:17.000 --> 42:19.000]  You're going to get steamrolled.
[42:19.000 --> 42:20.000]  No question about it.
[42:20.000 --> 42:29.000]  It's going to happen because that tainted jury is going to get six people in that box
[42:29.000 --> 42:34.000]  because you did not do your due diligence to know how to get rid of them
[42:34.000 --> 42:38.000]  if and when the prosecution did this sort of thing.
[42:38.000 --> 42:41.000]  And you must expect it.
[42:41.000 --> 42:47.000]  Rule of law exists because you have prosecutors and public servants
[42:47.000 --> 42:52.000]  that bend and twist the law to suit their own agenda.
[42:52.000 --> 42:56.000]  There's no reason for you to go to court and lose
[42:56.000 --> 43:03.000]  because you were not prepared for them to do exactly that very thing.
[43:03.000 --> 43:07.000]  And I hate to see it.
[43:07.000 --> 43:12.000]  I especially hate to see it when you attend my seminars
[43:12.000 --> 43:16.000]  and hopefully have been trying to absorb this information.
[43:16.000 --> 43:20.000]  I know that you folks don't have experience at this.
[43:20.000 --> 43:27.000]  That's what the seminars are for, to try to help you understand and get the experience.
[43:27.000 --> 43:34.000]  I can't treat it like a true class because I never know who's going to be there.
[43:34.000 --> 43:35.000]  All right?
[43:35.000 --> 43:37.000]  I would love to be able to do that,
[43:37.000 --> 43:43.000]  but at the moment I just can't because of the consistency of the attendance.
[43:43.000 --> 43:44.000]  All right.
[43:44.000 --> 43:45.000]  That's my rant and rave.
[43:45.000 --> 43:48.000]  We'll pick this up on the other side and start taking your calls.
[43:48.000 --> 43:51.000]  512-646-1984, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:51.000 --> 43:58.000]  We will be right back.
[43:58.000 --> 44:01.000]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM,
[44:01.000 --> 44:03.000]  but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy,
[44:03.000 --> 44:06.000]  and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[44:06.000 --> 44:09.000]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[44:09.000 --> 44:10.000]  Brave New Books?
[44:10.000 --> 44:11.000]  Yes.
[44:11.000 --> 44:14.000]  Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for
[44:14.000 --> 44:17.000]  by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[44:17.000 --> 44:21.000]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
[44:21.000 --> 44:24.000]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[44:24.000 --> 44:25.000]  Go check it out for yourself.
[44:25.000 --> 44:29.000]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[44:29.000 --> 44:33.000]  Oh, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[44:33.000 --> 44:35.000]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking
[44:35.000 --> 44:39.000]  for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility
[44:39.000 --> 44:41.000]  just behind the bookstore.
[44:41.000 --> 44:44.000]  It does exist, but when are they open?
[44:44.000 --> 44:49.000]  Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays.
[44:49.000 --> 44:53.000]  So give them a call at 512-480-2503,
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[45:59.000 --> 46:19.000]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[46:19.000 --> 46:25.000]  Okay, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[46:25.000 --> 46:28.000]  If you got any traffic issues or anything of that nature,
[46:28.000 --> 46:30.000]  please give us a call.
[46:30.000 --> 46:32.000]  If you don't know about the seminars,
[46:32.000 --> 46:36.000]  right now they are scheduled every Sunday from 2 to 5
[46:36.000 --> 46:38.000]  at Brave New Books.
[46:38.000 --> 46:42.000]  The one on this coming Sunday, however,
[46:42.000 --> 46:45.000]  we have to move back an hour. It will start at 3.
[46:45.000 --> 46:49.000]  There is an event that was scheduled many, many months ago
[46:49.000 --> 46:53.000]  before I even got into Austin that was actually scheduled
[46:53.000 --> 46:56.000]  until 3 o'clock next Sunday.
[46:56.000 --> 47:01.000]  So our class will actually start an hour later on this coming Sunday.
[47:01.000 --> 47:04.000]  So everybody that's out there listening that attends,
[47:04.000 --> 47:09.000]  please make sure you update your time to come in on that.
[47:09.000 --> 47:12.000]  But it's from 3 to 6 next Sunday.
[47:12.000 --> 47:15.000]  Arnold was kind enough to say that if we did have run over,
[47:15.000 --> 47:18.000]  he didn't mind, he was willing to stay for us.
[47:18.000 --> 47:21.000]  And generally in our classes, we do have run over,
[47:21.000 --> 47:24.000]  and he's very accommodating for us in that regard,
[47:24.000 --> 47:26.000]  and we really, really appreciate it.
[47:26.000 --> 47:30.000]  Harland and Brave New Books is a godsend to Austin.
[47:30.000 --> 47:33.000]  It gives folks like us that want to make a change
[47:33.000 --> 47:35.000]  and want to address these issues,
[47:35.000 --> 47:40.000]  it gives us a place to come together and talk about the issues
[47:40.000 --> 47:43.000]  and formulate plans to do something.
[47:43.000 --> 47:46.000]  You've got TAG right there in the same location right now.
[47:46.000 --> 47:50.000]  Those folks are working day and night just like us
[47:50.000 --> 47:55.000]  to do what needs to be done to protect our rights here in Texas.
[47:55.000 --> 47:57.000]  And folks, I've got to tell you,
[47:57.000 --> 48:02.000]  the legislature and the people that we elect to office
[48:02.000 --> 48:04.000]  and those that are appointed to office,
[48:04.000 --> 48:07.000]  they're not going to protect our rights.
[48:07.000 --> 48:11.000]  They're not going to do what the law requires.
[48:11.000 --> 48:13.000]  They're not going to do anything
[48:13.000 --> 48:16.000]  but what they think they can get away with
[48:16.000 --> 48:20.000]  as long as we the people sit back and do nothing
[48:20.000 --> 48:24.000]  to make them accountable for those actions.
[48:24.000 --> 48:27.000]  We need to keep that in mind.
[48:27.000 --> 48:31.000]  We are where we are because of a lack of due diligence.
[48:31.000 --> 48:36.000]  There is no one to blame for our current situation but us.
[48:36.000 --> 48:38.000]  We know we can make a difference.
[48:38.000 --> 48:39.000]  We've done it.
[48:39.000 --> 48:41.000]  We've gone down to the Capitol.
[48:41.000 --> 48:44.000]  We've testified and protested these bills
[48:44.000 --> 48:46.000]  that were being pushed through there.
[48:46.000 --> 48:48.000]  We made a difference, people.
[48:48.000 --> 48:53.000]  We got rid of the bad ones or at least a good part of them.
[48:53.000 --> 48:56.000]  We got some good ones passed that we needed.
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  The PSA groping bill.
[48:58.000 --> 48:59.000]  That's right.
[48:59.000 --> 49:00.000]  It just went to the Senate.
[49:00.000 --> 49:02.000]  It passed the House.
[49:02.000 --> 49:03.000]  Okay.
[49:03.000 --> 49:05.000]  We can make a difference,
[49:05.000 --> 49:09.000]  but it takes getting up and using your voice.
[49:09.000 --> 49:12.000]  And it takes time.
[49:12.000 --> 49:14.000]  It does take an effort.
[49:14.000 --> 49:20.000]  Self-governance does not mean the government runs by itself.
[49:20.000 --> 49:25.000]  That's not what it means.
[49:25.000 --> 49:27.000]  No, that's not what it means.
[49:27.000 --> 49:28.000]  All right.
[49:28.000 --> 49:29.000]  Okay.
[49:29.000 --> 49:30.000]  We have a caller on the board.
[49:30.000 --> 49:33.000]  This is Steve in California, or it looks like it is.
[49:33.000 --> 49:34.000]  Yes, Steve.
[49:34.000 --> 49:37.000]  What is your question or comment for us tonight?
[49:37.000 --> 49:38.000]  I was just curious.
[49:38.000 --> 49:42.000]  I tried to send you guys some e-mails on an Indiana State Supreme Court ruling
[49:42.000 --> 49:46.000]  that came down last week.
[49:46.000 --> 49:52.000]  The Indiana Supreme Court ruled that a citizen of Indiana has no legal right
[49:52.000 --> 49:59.000]  to defend his home against unlawful entry by any police officer for any reason.
[49:59.000 --> 50:01.000]  Yeah, I saw that.
[50:01.000 --> 50:04.000]  I saw that on some other various news sites.
[50:04.000 --> 50:09.000]  And honestly, personally, I don't really understand what all the handwringing is
[50:09.000 --> 50:11.000]  about this court decision.
[50:11.000 --> 50:13.000]  This has always been the case.
[50:13.000 --> 50:15.000]  This is a status quo.
[50:15.000 --> 50:21.000]  If you try to resist arrest or try to interfere with police executing a warrant
[50:21.000 --> 50:24.000]  or just doing whatever they do, whether they have a warrant or not,
[50:24.000 --> 50:26.000]  you're going to get taken down.
[50:26.000 --> 50:30.000]  And I would never recommend to anybody to try to physically block
[50:30.000 --> 50:36.000]  or use firearms or anything else to try to prevent the police from entering your home
[50:36.000 --> 50:40.000]  just because you think that they don't have a warrant
[50:40.000 --> 50:43.000]  or because you think that what they're doing is illegal or unlawful or whatever,
[50:43.000 --> 50:47.000]  because what's going to happen is that you're going to get taken down.
[50:47.000 --> 50:49.000]  You're going to get tased.
[50:49.000 --> 50:50.000]  You might even get shot.
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  You're going to get thrown in jail.
[50:52.000 --> 50:54.000]  It's just not a good idea.
[50:54.000 --> 50:57.000]  And this has always been the status quo.
[50:57.000 --> 51:01.000]  So really, this Indiana Supreme Court ruling is nothing new.
[51:01.000 --> 51:03.000]  I mean, this doesn't establish any new precedent,
[51:03.000 --> 51:06.000]  and I really don't see what all the handwringing is over it anyway.
[51:06.000 --> 51:13.000]  I mean, it doesn't say this court decision does not mean that it's okay for police
[51:13.000 --> 51:16.000]  to do whatever they want without a warrant.
[51:16.000 --> 51:18.000]  That's not what that court case means.
[51:18.000 --> 51:27.000]  Well, actually, though, the issue is that it is a knowingly illegal home invasion.
[51:27.000 --> 51:29.000]  That's the issue.
[51:29.000 --> 51:33.000]  They know that the entry is absolutely illegal,
[51:33.000 --> 51:39.000]  and the court said even if you know that, you can't do anything about it.
[51:39.000 --> 51:42.000]  Right, but again, this has always been the case.
[51:42.000 --> 51:43.000]  This is nothing new.
[51:43.000 --> 51:45.000]  Well, the thing, though, is here in Texas,
[51:45.000 --> 51:50.000]  though I doubt it's been used much since the early 1900s,
[51:50.000 --> 51:55.000]  we have law on the books that says any citizen is perfectly within their right
[51:55.000 --> 52:01.000]  to resist an unlawful arrest, that it is perfectly legal for any citizen
[52:01.000 --> 52:07.000]  to assist another in preventing an unlawful arrest by a police officer.
[52:07.000 --> 52:13.000]  We have law in Texas on the books that says precisely that.
[52:13.000 --> 52:19.000]  But I guarantee you, if you attempt to use it as a defense,
[52:19.000 --> 52:22.000]  they're still going to try to charge you with aggravated assault
[52:22.000 --> 52:26.000]  or assault of a police officer to cover their own behind for what they did.
[52:26.000 --> 52:28.000]  Sure, of course, and that was my point.
[52:28.000 --> 52:33.000]  And that's if you're alive, as Deborah says, that part she's very correct on.
[52:33.000 --> 52:34.000]  It's just not a good idea.
[52:34.000 --> 52:36.000]  If you're alive to even make that case.
[52:36.000 --> 52:37.000]  It's just not a good idea.
[52:37.000 --> 52:39.000]  I mean, it's just not a good idea.
[52:39.000 --> 52:44.000]  It's come out now, new medical research, tasers are lethal.
[52:44.000 --> 52:47.000]  Obviously, firearms are lethal.
[52:47.000 --> 52:49.000]  Who knows what could happen to you in jail?
[52:49.000 --> 52:54.000]  I would always recommend making choices to stay out of jail at almost any cost,
[52:54.000 --> 52:57.000]  because once you're in their system, you don't know what's going to happen to you.
[52:57.000 --> 52:58.000]  You get murdered in jail.
[52:58.000 --> 53:00.000]  People do get murdered in jail by the police.
[53:00.000 --> 53:06.000]  All right, so it's just the best idea to just not let yourself fall into their hands.
[53:06.000 --> 53:13.000]  And no matter what you do, you're never going to be able to successfully stop them
[53:13.000 --> 53:18.000]  from entering onto your property if they have their heart set on it.
[53:18.000 --> 53:24.000]  If they are hell bent on coming into your home, worn or not, they are going to do it.
[53:24.000 --> 53:25.000]  They will call for backup.
[53:25.000 --> 53:27.000]  They are the police.
[53:27.000 --> 53:31.000]  They have all the authority of the law behind them on that badge.
[53:31.000 --> 53:34.000]  And yes, they do act beyond the scope of their authority.
[53:34.000 --> 53:40.000]  But the point is, at that very moment, there is nothing you are really practically going to be able to do
[53:40.000 --> 53:46.000]  to stop them from entering onto your property just because you think what they're doing is illegal.
[53:46.000 --> 53:48.000]  They will take you down.
[53:48.000 --> 53:49.000]  You could die.
[53:49.000 --> 53:56.000]  And I would never recommend doing that, even though there are certain laws in the books here in Texas
[53:56.000 --> 53:59.000]  that say that you can resist unlawful arrest.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  It's just not a good idea.
[54:01.000 --> 54:08.000]  This court case does not say that it's okay for the police to do whatever they want without a warrant.
[54:08.000 --> 54:10.000]  That's not what the case says.
[54:10.000 --> 54:13.000]  So again, I just really don't understand why the hand ringing.
[54:13.000 --> 54:15.000]  It's not unlawful arrest.
[54:15.000 --> 54:17.000]  It's entry into your home.
[54:17.000 --> 54:18.000]  I know.
[54:18.000 --> 54:22.000]  So you can't stand at the door and say without a warrant, you're not coming in?
[54:22.000 --> 54:24.000]  No, that's not what the case says.
[54:24.000 --> 54:31.000]  The case says not that you cannot try to forcefully resist them from doing it.
[54:31.000 --> 54:36.000]  If you want to try to reason with them at the door and talk to them,
[54:36.000 --> 54:41.000]  this court case doesn't say that you can't try to talk to them or reason with them over it.
[54:41.000 --> 54:44.000]  It says that you can't forcefully try to prevent it.
[54:44.000 --> 54:47.000]  Right.
[54:47.000 --> 54:49.000]  That's what I was getting from it.
[54:49.000 --> 54:54.000]  Okay, well, I appreciate your stance and what you said had made a lot of sense,
[54:54.000 --> 54:55.000]  and I'll do a little more research on it.
[54:55.000 --> 54:57.000]  I was just hearing what I was hearing on the radio.
[54:57.000 --> 54:58.000]  Right.
[54:58.000 --> 55:00.000]  I heard you say anything about it.
[55:00.000 --> 55:02.000]  Maybe that explains a little better to me.
[55:02.000 --> 55:08.000]  Yeah, the only thing that I can see this being a much bigger potential issue in the long run is this.
[55:08.000 --> 55:13.000]  What this is going to do, besides giving them the ability to illegally enter a house,
[55:13.000 --> 55:17.000]  you've got the recent, extremely recent, this last couple days,
[55:17.000 --> 55:25.000]  United States Supreme Court decision that says the officers now can just listen at a door,
[55:25.000 --> 55:29.000]  suspect there's illegal activity, and kick it open and come in.
[55:29.000 --> 55:36.000]  There's a case that the Supreme Court just ruled on, and it went down eight to one, basically.
[55:36.000 --> 55:39.000]  Ginsburg was the only one that dissented.
[55:39.000 --> 55:41.000]  Everyone else ruled four.
[55:41.000 --> 55:44.000]  The cop doesn't even have to get a warrant now.
[55:44.000 --> 55:50.000]  If he can listen at the door, suspect that evidence is being destroyed on the inside,
[55:50.000 --> 55:52.000]  then he can kick it open and in he comes.
[55:52.000 --> 55:53.000]  No warrant required.
[55:53.000 --> 55:56.000]  So basically, these are just dominoes in the stack falling.
[55:56.000 --> 55:57.000]  Exactly.
[55:57.000 --> 56:04.000]  Now, what I see this doing, you're going to see a large increase,
[56:04.000 --> 56:12.000]  not only in the home invasions by the cops, but in the death of those whose homes get invaded.
[56:12.000 --> 56:16.000]  And here's why I believe that to be true.
[56:16.000 --> 56:18.000]  Well, we screwed up.
[56:18.000 --> 56:20.000]  There was no crime.
[56:20.000 --> 56:27.000]  Shoot somebody and give them a gun so we have probable cause to make no witnesses.
[56:27.000 --> 56:30.000]  We can't get sued because we have probable cause,
[56:30.000 --> 56:35.000]  because we've got court precedent that says they can't resist the entry anyway,
[56:35.000 --> 56:40.000]  and now we've got a planted gun that says they did.
[56:40.000 --> 56:44.000]  That's where I see this going long term.
[56:44.000 --> 56:50.000]  The more tools we give them to quote, unquote, operate under,
[56:50.000 --> 56:58.000]  the more tools we give them to abuse, and they will find a way to abuse it.
[56:58.000 --> 57:03.000]  Well, once again, you guys have clarified some stuff for me, and that's greatly appreciated.
[57:03.000 --> 57:09.000]  It's always great to give you guys an input to maybe let me see things from a different angle.
[57:09.000 --> 57:13.000]  And that's why I listen to you guys almost every night you're on.
[57:13.000 --> 57:14.000]  Thank you, Steve.
[57:14.000 --> 57:17.000]  I'll let you guys get on to another caller and have a good night.
[57:17.000 --> 57:22.000]  All right, and Steve, I'm sorry if I was short with you when I was screening the calls.
[57:22.000 --> 57:26.000]  Folks may not realize what all I have to go through here.
[57:26.000 --> 57:31.000]  I do have a call screener that screens the calls for the shows on Thursday and Friday nights,
[57:31.000 --> 57:35.000]  but I don't have one on Monday nights, and so I have to screen the calls.
[57:35.000 --> 57:38.000]  And for folks who don't realize what is going on here,
[57:38.000 --> 57:42.000]  I'm producing the show from a technical standpoint, and I'm on the air,
[57:42.000 --> 57:46.000]  and I have to screen the calls all at the same time on Monday nights.
[57:46.000 --> 57:48.000]  And that's not such an easy thing to do.
[57:48.000 --> 57:52.000]  And what has happened in the past is Randy and Eddie will call out for me on the air
[57:52.000 --> 57:57.000]  to make a comment or get my opinion on something, and I don't answer because I'm screening calls.
[57:57.000 --> 57:59.000]  I can't screen calls and talk on the air at the same time.
[57:59.000 --> 58:06.000]  So I do have a statement on the website, and I ask folks to please not try to talk to me
[58:06.000 --> 58:07.000]  when I'm screening the calls.
[58:07.000 --> 58:11.000]  I have to give folks very brief instructions of what they need to do
[58:11.000 --> 58:15.000]  in order for their audio quality to sound good on the air.
[58:15.000 --> 58:17.000]  So please just let me screen the call and let me get back,
[58:17.000 --> 58:22.000]  because I've got to roll through a lot of calls when I'm on the break or when I'm on the air, whatever.
[58:22.000 --> 58:25.000]  So anyway, I'm sorry if I was short with you, Steve, but yeah,
[58:25.000 --> 58:30.000]  I just can't really talk to people while I'm on the air, screen calls.
[58:30.000 --> 58:31.000]  It's just it doesn't work.
[58:31.000 --> 58:35.000]  So thank you for your patience.
[58:35.000 --> 58:37.000]  All right, folks, we will be back.
[58:37.000 --> 58:39.000]  This is the top of the hour news break.
[58:39.000 --> 58:42.000]  Looks like we've got Randy, Robert, Ben, and others.
[58:42.000 --> 58:46.000]  If you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[58:46.000 --> 58:51.000]  We've got one more hour, and if you want to call in, you better call in tonight.
[58:51.000 --> 58:53.000]  Thursday night, for sure we're running an archive,
[58:53.000 --> 58:55.000]  and Friday night, Eddie might be out of town.
[58:55.000 --> 58:57.000]  So call in tonight.
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[59:57.000 --> 01:00:02.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:09.000]  A New York court Monday reminded IMF Chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn in custody on charges of sexual assault.
[01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.000]  In denying bail, the judge said Strauss-Kahn is a flight risk.
[01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:17.000]  He was arrested Saturday after boarding a Paris-bound plane
[01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.000]  and accused of trying to rape a hotel maid earlier in the day.
[01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:27.000]  Strauss-Kahn had been seen as a major contender in France's 2012 presidential election.
[01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.000]  Hundreds of police in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights Monday
[01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:38.000]  searched for refugees who crossed over from Syria in some of the bloodiest violence in years along Israel's borders.
[01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:45.000]  Israeli troops Sunday fired on thousands of people protesting the anniversary of Israel's founding.
[01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.000]  Gunmen shot and killed a Saudi diplomat in Karachi, Pakistan, Monday.
[01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:57.000]  A police official said two gunmen riding on a motorcycle showered the car with bullets from a 9mm pistol.
[01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:05.000]  A Pakistani Taliban spokesman said his group would not confirm it was involved in the attack, but fully supported it.
[01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:10.000]  The New York Times reported Sunday the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi has hired Erik Prince,
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:18.000]  founder of Blackwater Worldwide, to set up an 800-member battalion of foreign troops for the United Arab Emirates.
[01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:22.000]  The Times said the unit being formed by Prince's new company Reflex Responses,
[01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:28.000]  with $529 million from the UAE, would be used to thwart internal revolt,
[01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:33.000]  conduct special operations, and defend oil pipelines and skyscrapers from attack.
[01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:41.000]  Blackwater gained notoriety in 2007 when its guards opened fire in Baghdad, killing at least 14 civilians.
[01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:45.000]  Prince has since sold the firm, which changed its name to Zee Services.
[01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  Prince brought troops to a training camp in the UAE from Colombia, South Africa, and other countries.
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:56.000]  Prince insisted the force hire no Muslims because they could not be counted on to kill fellow Muslims.
[01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:00.000]  U.S. law requires a license for U.S. citizens to train foreign troops.
[01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:04.000]  The State Department is investigating.
[01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:11.000]  Japan said Monday it will stabilize and shut down the stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant in six to nine months,
[01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:16.000]  as planned, as residents of two nearby towns evacuated, concerned about radiation.
[01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.000]  The government's timeline for stabilizing the plant was questioned last week,
[01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:26.000]  after new data showed the damage to one reactor at the plant was worse than expected.
[01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:32.000]  That assessment also prompted the government to acknowledge the reactor's fuel rods had mostly melted
[01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.000]  soon after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
[01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:40.000]  Most of the fuel in the plant's first reactor has melted and accumulated at the bottom of the pressure vessel
[01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  that holds the rods together, eating through the vessel and trickling into the large containment vessel.
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:56.000]  The plant is still leaking a massive amount of contaminated water.
[01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:34.000]  I read his book and it says he cares not for the unsightly.
[01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:43.000]  These warmongers come by that term rightly.
[01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:50.000]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  The plant's wicked and the logic shoddy.
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:00.000]  Ain't gonna pay for the war with my body.
[01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.000]  I won't pay for the poison with my money.
[01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  Hi folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio, Eddie Craig, Deb Stevens, Randy Kelton.
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.000]  It is Monday night, traffic night, 512-646-1984.
[01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  We've got about an hour left in the show.
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  We are taking your calls and right now we are going to go to Randy in Texas.
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.000]  Randy, what can we do for you?
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:38.000]  Hey Eddie, after we use the prosecution's foundation against them,
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  what's the verb you use to dismiss the jury if the example you previously gave,
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:56.000]  if we can bring that up as evidence?
[01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:02.000]  What would you say to have the jury dismissed in the trial?
[01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  The objection, the defense moves that the entire jury pool be dismissed for cause,
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.000]  prosecutorial misconduct.
[01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:17.000]  He's misrepresented the law and misstated facts to the jury in order to confuse the issue.
[01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  I've also moved the court for sanctions against the prosecutor for his attempt to do that, Judge.
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.000]  And if the judge objects?
[01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  Well, the judge can't object. The judge can only say denied or granted.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  If they deny it, well, okay, you've made the record and you've got an appealable issue.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  If they grant it, okay, trial's over, we'll try this again with the new jury pool.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  In which case, you now have time to go back and recoup and get done what you need done
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  and get yourself lined up to handle it better.
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:02.000]  Okay, so they won't dismiss the case if that happens, they'll just set another trial?
[01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:05.000]  They have to get a new jury pool.
[01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  So yeah, they'll have to reschedule the trial date, which gives you time to petition the court for leave,
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:19.000]  to get your motions heard that weren't heard, and you bring up the issues of due process and jurisdiction
[01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  and get that addressed on the record.
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.000]  Okay.
[01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:29.000]  Now, I will reiterate one other thing, folks.
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  When the judge looks at the state and goes, is the state ready for trial?
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:42.000]  And they say yes, and then the judge looks at the defense and says, is the defense ready for trial?
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:49.000]  If you're not ready for trial, do not say yes.
[01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  The correct answer, of course, is no.
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  The judge is going to ask you, what keeps you from being ready for trial?
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  The response in this particular case, there are jurisdictional issues before the court,
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  along with due process violations of the defense before the court that have not been addressed.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:24.000]  The defense cannot go to trial with this hanging over their head.
[01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  So that's where it should have gone.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  Do you have a question, Randy?
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  Well, yeah, but can the judge then deny that?
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  The judge can do anything they want.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.000]  We don't care.
[01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.000]  We know the trial is rigged.
[01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.000]  Don't forget that.
[01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  We know this.
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  So what are we trying to do with this objection?
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  Put it on the record?
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.000]  Exactly.
[01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:01.000]  The record for appeal, you get this on the record, you object to it so it's in the record,
[01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  so that the appeals court has the opportunity to say, look, the guy objected.
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  The judge ignored a blatant violation of their rights.
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  Remand it back and tell the judge they're an idiot.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  That's the goal here, make the record.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  Even Dr. Graves is going to agree with that.
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  And then what does the appellate court do if they uphold the objection?
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  You're asking me to read minds.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  The appellate court is either going to hear the appeal, review the record, and if the record was properly made,
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  they have no choice but to reverse the judgment and remand it back to the trial court,
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.000]  either for dismissal or retrial.
[01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:55.000]  I can't tell you which one they'll pick.
[01:08:55.000 --> 01:09:01.000]  It's going to be based upon what you proved in the record.
[01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  So how well you made the record completely determines the outcome, whether it be at trial or at appeal.
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  And every stage gets more expensive, right, if you lose?
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  It's a criminal case.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  It's not a matter of expense.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  The thing that gets more expensive is having to pay court fees if you lose,
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  because you have to pay for the fees of each court as you progress.
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  That's pretty daunting for the normal, average-age working judge.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.000]  Of course it is.
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  If you fail to know how to make your case, you're going to lose and you're going to have to keep paying those fees.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:52.000]  But if you've done the right thing and made your case,
[01:09:52.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  then the only thing you should have to pay is the original appeal bond.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  Anything else?
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  No, that's it.
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  I appreciate you answering those questions.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.000]  Not a problem.
[01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:12.000]  Thanks for calling in, Randy.
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  All right, thanks.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  All right, bye-bye.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  All right, let's go to Robert.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:17.000]  Well, we had a Robert.
[01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:18.000]  Robert disappeared.
[01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  Robert, if you dropped off the line, please call us back and I'll get to you.
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  Right now I'm going to go to Randy in Texas.
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  Evening, Randy.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  We just talked to Randy in Texas.
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  Oh, never mind.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  Sorry.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000]  Yeah, Robert from Texas is there.
[01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:35.000]  Yeah, but my screen keeps updating and showing me one guy, no guy, three guys.
[01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  Now all I see is Ben.
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  Okay, all right.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:39.000]  Yeah, Robert did drop off.
[01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  All right, let's go to Ben.
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  Okay, Ben, what can we do for you?
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  All right, first of all, you mentioned that you can't run the class like a regular class
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.000]  because you don't know who's going to show up and who isn't.
[01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:57.000]  I was thinking it would be a good idea to have like a formal class where, you know,
[01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.000]  we pay the dues up front and just go every week.
[01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.000]  That way we can, like, you know, have a continuous class.
[01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  That would be a really good idea, actually.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  You know, I mean, you can always try it and see how many people sign up.
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  If enough people sign up, then you can do it, right?
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:15.000]  Well, that would be true provided everybody's got that much pocket change on them in one shot.
[01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  Right, yeah, that is a little tougher, but, you know, I mean, it's worth it.
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:25.000]  You know, I mean, what, you know, if we did, you know, $300, that'd be, what, 15 of those classes.
[01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  I mean, you could get a lot in in 15 of those classes, right?
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  You know?
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  Well, that, yeah.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:35.000]  The objectives, or the real problem here, though, is those that don't have a choice on missing classes,
[01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  those that simply cannot because they had worked that day.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  Now, granted, on Sundays we have far less of that as a problem,
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  but that normally is the reason people aren't attending is because something just prevented them,
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000]  because we do have quite a few regular attendees.
[01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  Well, obviously, if you pay ahead of time,
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:00.000]  that's going to give you a lot more incentive to show up, right?
[01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  Well, I'm not disagreeing with that.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000]  And as much as I think it's a good idea,
[01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:11.000]  the issue here is I don't want to alienate anybody that needs to come.
[01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  Right.
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  So, you know.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  Well, I wasn't saying doing it instead.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  I was saying doing it and doing that.
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  You know, there's one for the people that can't come on.
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:23.000]  Yeah, but if you give somebody the option of paying in bulk or paying by the weekend,
[01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  which one are you going to pick?
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  Well, it depends.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.000]  I mean, I think that the paying by the bulk would be the quality class,
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.000]  so that's what I would go for.
[01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:37.000]  Well, I appreciate your commitment.
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.000]  If you're willing to do that, convince your friends.
[01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.000]  Bring them, too.
[01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:42.000]  I'm all for it.
[01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.000]  Hey, I'll bring it up on Sunday, maybe.
[01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  You know, maybe there'll be some other people in the class.
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.000]  That would be all about that idea.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  Okay, so on to the next...
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.000]  Well, I'll give it a consideration.
[01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:55.000]  And if anybody out there has got a comment that regularly attends the class,
[01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  feel free to call in and offer your two cents worth on whether you'd agree or disagree with that.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  I'd love to hear from you on the subject.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  The one thing I can say is I've tried to make sure that I make this as cheap as possible
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000]  so that I can at least make enough money to cover the bills I have in Nacogdoches
[01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  and the ones that I'm generating here.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.000]  I can't not charge because I've got to live.
[01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  And all of my time is spent keeping this stuff updated and helping people with their cases.
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:31.000]  And while some people are donating a little bit when I help them, a lot of people aren't.
[01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  And I'm still doing this for nothing pretty much except for these weekend classes.
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.000]  So I've tried to keep them inexpensive, but I can't just say come and go and do as you please
[01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:47.000]  and don't worry about paying me for nothing because I am definitely not independently wealthy.
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  Right, I understand that. I definitely appreciate everything you do, Eddie.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.000]  And I guess the next thing I was going to say, I sent you an email.
[01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  I asked if you were actually offering for a consultation.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.000]  You said something about like a silver dollar an hour.
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  So yeah, I actually wanted to pay you for your services and get a consultation on my cases.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:07.000]  So I was just wondering if you got that email or if you just hadn't gotten around to it or what?
[01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.000]  I don't recall seeing it, Ben.
[01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000]  So if you'll resend it, I'll look.
[01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.000]  I've had about 280 emails while I was gone today.
[01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.000]  Okay, and then the third thing, I had an idea today.
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.000]  So everybody in my family, you know, I go around talking about this stuff.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.000]  They're all like, why don't you become a lawyer?
[01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.000]  And you know, all my friends, why don't you become a lawyer?
[01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:27.000]  I'm like Bar Association, Bar Association.
[01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.000]  Well, I had an idea.
[01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:32.000]  So let's say I went and I got myself a Juris Doctorate.
[01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  And then I went and I actually read, you know, what you have to do to get licensed as an attorney.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  Now, they want you to join the Bar Association.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.000]  I don't want to join the Bar Association.
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:46.000]  So let's say I go and I do everything that I'm supposed to, but I refuse to sign any contract.
[01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  So I'm trying to get a license to practice law, you know, the legal way or whatever.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  But I don't want to be compelled into any contracts.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:57.000]  And there's nothing, there's no way legally that anybody can compel me into their contract,
[01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:01.000]  i.e. a membership of the Bar Organization or something like that.
[01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:02.000]  So let's say I do all that.
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.000]  And then I decide I'm going to go practice law because, well, heck, I already tried to get a legal license to practice law.
[01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  Then when they go and try and prosecute me for that crime, perhaps I could get that overturned and get an exception put in place, you know,
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  because basically they have a monopoly over the practice of law, which is completely unconstitutional to begin with.
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000]  Yeah.
[01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  Well, my answer was much more generic and short.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  I'm not a lawyer because I promised my mother I would not grow up to be a crook.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.000]  Right.
[01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  So I'll leave it at that.
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  Well, if I want to get really good at this stuff and make money off of it, you know, I don't think it's right that only those guys are allowed to make money off of it.
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.000]  That's kind of ridiculous.
[01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  So I'm just wondering if I could have a way to challenge that law, you know, because that's what we can do.
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  Well, you're making the assumption there is such a law and there isn't.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  I've had this discussion with many people that have argued and argued and argued with me in futility because they cannot produce the law that supports their position that it cannot be done.
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  The law that limits your availability to represent someone in court is very specific in what those limitations are.
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:29.000]  And there is no limitation on your ability to represent someone as legal counsel in a criminal case at all.
[01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  The limitation comes when it deals with the transfer of real property, the release or transfer of a lien, the brokering of legal services exclusively for a payment, or in a case involving recovery of personal injury damages.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  So hang on just a second. We'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:58.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984. We'll be right back on the other side of the break.
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[01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:30.000]  Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, right now we are talking to Ben in Texas.
[01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.000]  Alright, Ben, continue please.
[01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  Yeah, okay, so I did not know that, that they did not prevent it in criminal defense cases, which that's actually good news.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  But I want to be able to represent people in lawsuits, too. Why shouldn't I be able to do that?
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  You can represent them in lawsuits as long as it is not for personal injury damage recovery in a personal injury suit,
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  or in a suit dealing with the transfer of real property, or in a suit dealing with the release or transfer of a lien.
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  The only other thing you cannot do is act as a broker for legal services by charging a fee for the exclusive right to provide one individual with the legal services of another.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  Those are the only instances Texas law says you are committing a criminal act.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  Oh, okay, so if I want to pay anybody to go show up and represent me in court, I can?
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:40.000]  And they don't have to worry about getting arrested for it then?
[01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  I didn't say that, did I? I said that's all the law talks about.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:50.000]  What these judges try to do is to protect the profits of their lawyer buddies.
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  They make the accusations, and then they try to make you quit by threatening you with criminal sanctions, charges, and jail.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  The problem is, is the court thinks it has the right to create law regarding what constitutes the unlawful practice or unauthorized practice of law.
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  And they don't. Only the legislature can create law.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  All the courts can do is create rules that govern the courts and the professionals that practice in them.
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:35.000]  Those rules don't mean squat to the rest of us operating outside of that venue.
[01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  The rules do not apply to us if they're trying to put us in the same category as one of the licensed professionals.
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  That's why they can't charge us with baritory like they tried to do Robert Foxx two times.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.000]  They always have to dismiss it.
[01:21:55.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  The charge is done for no other reason than harassment because he is not a licensed professional that can be charged with baritory.
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  It's that simple.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  Yeah, so actually if they do impose jail time today, that's even better because then you get all kinds of money for false imprisonment on that.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  Yeah, but here's the catch to all that.
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:23.000]  This is what the law is and isn't.
[01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  Look who you have to go to to solve your dilemma.
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  Right.
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  The same courts that don't want you intruding upon their profiteering realm.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  Right, that was another question I wanted to ask.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  These appellate courts, so evidently they rule a lot better than these lower courts.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.000]  They're not as corrupt, correct?
[01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:43.000]  Well, I wouldn't go that far.
[01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  They're more bound by the actual rules they think they try to be.
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  I'm not saying that all hot judges in Texas are corrupt, just those that sit down on the bench.
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  Right, but these appellate judges, what prevents them from doing the same stuff that these lower court judges are doing?
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.000]  That's what I wonder.
[01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  Because they're more accountable.
[01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  They're much more in public view.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:13.000]  Theirs is where the published opinions come from.
[01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:18.000]  Those published opinions are seen by the world.
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  They have to be more careful.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  That's the only benefit to them.
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  Okay.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  Well, I guess that pretty much wraps it up for me.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  I'll definitely see you on Sunday.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  And also I wanted to really quick encourage anybody that's just thinking about wanting these classes because they're interested, but they don't have a problem yet.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  From personal experience, it's a lot easier to pay for these classes and go and learn this stuff when you don't have a problem than when you already do.
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.000]  And they're already at your throat for money.
[01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:55.000]  So anybody that's thinking about it ought to just show up.
[01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  But they still have the chance to do it before they lose all their money to the state.
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  Well, thanks for that plug.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000]  That's pretty true.
[01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  Yep.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:19.000]  If they put you under a financial burden and they create a problem for you, you're going to find getting help that requires any amount of money at all much more difficult.
[01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  All right.
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:21.000]  Anything else, Ben?
[01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  No, that's it.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  All right.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  Well, thanks for calling in and thank you for the plug on the classes.
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  Yeah, no problem.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.000]  All right.
[01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  Have a good night.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  Sure.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.000]  No problem.
[01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  All right, folks.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:35.000]  That's all she wrote.
[01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:37.000]  We have no one else on the call board.
[01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  A little early in the show.
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  We've got a half an hour left here and we don't have anybody else calling in.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:43.000]  Yeah.
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  And folks, again, you may want to call in tonight because we might be running archives for the rest of the week.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  For sure, we're running archives on Thursday and we might be running an archive on Friday night as well, too, because Eddie might be out of town.
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  He might be in Cherokee County for Robert Fox's trial.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  So, folks, if you want to call in, you better get while the getting is good.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Yep, now's the time.
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:21.000]  But while we are waiting for somebody to get up on the call board, again, I would like to say thank you to Brave New Books for all they've done for the Patriot community here in Austin.
[01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.000]  Harlan is a really great guy.
[01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  He does his best to make his facilities available for any event that would be beneficial to the people in any way.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  He is not one of those guys that just sits down and picks and chooses who you get to hear and who you don't.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:50.000]  He pretty much has an open floor for anybody that wants to come down and schedule something to be heard, and he needs to be thanked for that, okay?
[01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  He's a good place to buy silver.
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:26:00.000]  He's not able to provide it at the same price as, say, capital coin and bullion, but he's fair about it.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  So there's a lot of benefit to Brave New Books, folks.
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  This benefit we're having down there for rule of law, that's, you know, in our 90.1, that's going to be business for him.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.000]  It's going to draw people to him.
[01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  It's going to make him better known.
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  It's going to give us an opportunity to keep him there longer, provided he wants to be there longer.
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  But, again, we really appreciate Harlan and Brave New Books for all they've done for us in letting us host shows down there, letting me do seminars down there.
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:41.000]  He's really been great about that and providing us with a place to make a voice and make a scene for everybody to come in and learn.
[01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:44.000]  So we really appreciate that.
[01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  Well, we had Clint on the board, and I was going to go to him, but wait, there's a couple there.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  I've got an unscreened caller.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  I'll go ahead and take that, if that's all right.
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:56.000]  Let's see.
[01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:59.000]  Can you give me your first name and where you're calling from, please?
[01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:02.000]  Jeff in Texas.
[01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:04.000]  Say again?
[01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:10.000]  Jeff in Texas?
[01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.000]  Oh, you said Jeff in Texas.
[01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  Wait a minute, wait, wait, hold on.
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:17.000]  Let me screen the calls that aren't screened yet first, Eddie.
[01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:20.000]  Take Clint in Texas.
[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  We just got a barrage of calls.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.000]  I just screened Clint.
[01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:24.000]  Take Clint first.
[01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:25.000]  All right, here we go.
[01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  Clint, how are you doing this evening?
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:28.000]  I'm doing pretty good.
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  I can't complain.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  So I was calling.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  I heard you talking to Ben, and my question to you is, are you needing people to be scheduled for one class in advance?
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:43.000]  Is that what would be beneficial or do you need a full roster over?
[01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:49.000]  Well, what I would like to do is actually make this like a class of law students.
[01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:55.000]  What I would like to be able to do is to have the people that really want to know how this works inside and out,
[01:27:55.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  to be regular attendees that I can say, okay, you and you are partners.
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  You're defense.
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.000]  You and you are prosecutors.
[01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  You're prosecuting the case.
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:12.000]  Now, your job is to work together to make your arguments for this issue.
[01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  You're going to get to get up in front of everybody in the class,
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  and you're going to get to do a mock trial presenting your issue and defending your issue so that people actually
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  literally get hands-on practice so that they become more comfortable with how to interact in a courtroom.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  Okay.
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:40.000]  That's what I want, and the more people we can get dedicated to coming in regularly,
[01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  the more we're able to make something like that happen and make it beneficial.
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  That's the important thing is to make it beneficial.
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  How many classes would it take to get that amount of organization, like three classes?
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  Well, it really depends on how due diligence you are in getting your homework done.
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:09.000]  Depending upon the number of people we have, you may have four or five weeks to do your stuff.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  If we say have 20 people every class, then I've got 10 people to go through.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:23.000]  In three hours, we might be able to do two sets, which means it's five weeks rotation.
[01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  So you've got five weeks to get your stuff ready if you're last in line.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  We'd give you two weeks if you're the first, and so on and so forth.
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.000]  So really, it just depends on how many people we've got participating.
[01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  The more, the merrier, and then we can say try to make it groups of four instead of two.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Give everybody a chance.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:48.000]  Okay.
[01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:49.000]  All right.
[01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  So hang on just a second.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  Clint, we're going to break.
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.000]  We'll be right back on the other side of the break.
[01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:01.000]  Top 10 Reasons to Question the Official Story of the Oklahoma City Bombing.
[01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.000]  Number nine, the extra leg.
[01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:06.000]  Former Oklahoma State Medical Examiner Dr. Fred Jordan had stated,
[01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:10.000]  we had eight people with amputated left legs and nine left legs to account for.
[01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:15.000]  Chief Pathologist for Northern Ireland T.K. Marshall, who performed over 2,500 autopsies in his time,
[01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.000]  stated, there's never been an unknown victim.
[01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.000]  This leg belonged to a perpetrator close enough to the bomb
[01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:24.000]  for his body to be damaged, leaving only a left leg behind.
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[01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:35.000]  The U.S. government's at it again, trying to sell the benefits of an invasive new plan.
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[01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:25.000]  This joint public-private scheme, backed by megacorps like Microsoft and IBM,
[01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:30.000]  would have the U.S. government assign every person an unchanging cyber identity.
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[01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:45.000]  since they're increasingly linked.
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[01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:48.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio. We've got a half hour left in the show,
[01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:55.000]  and we finally got us a call board to school.
[01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:59.000]  All right, Clint, let's get on with it. What you got?
[01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:05.000]  Okay, let me just say this and get on out of here just a second.
[01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:13.000]  Would there be any benefit for a baby step of enrolling, you know, one class ahead?
[01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:20.000]  Is there anything you can do with that, with a roster of one class ahead?
[01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:27.000]  Well, depending upon who's in the class initially and who shows up at that next class, possibly.
[01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:32.000]  Okay. Well, I just wanted to give my input of someone that goes through this pretty regularly.
[01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  And personally, you know, being more – being active in several categories here in Austin,
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  it would be difficult to do the whole class and not miss it.
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:49.000]  And that's pretty much what I have to say.
[01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.000]  Yeah, well, we don't really need perfect attendance,
[01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  but we at least need people to be there when we match them up on teams
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:01.000]  so that they know who they're supposed to be communicating with during the week before the next class.
[01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:06.000]  Even if we don't get to do it right then in class, you've got that whole week,
[01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  if you're supposed to be up the next week, for the two or four or however many of you,
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:16.000]  we've got group together to communicate, work on it, and see what can be done.
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  So yeah, one in advance is okay as long as we have our group set up at some point prior to that one week.
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  We've got to be able to get people paired up at some point.
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:31.000]  And when somebody shows up that's new,
[01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:38.000]  we need to have somebody available to either pair them up with or for some group to add them to.
[01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.000]  I see. Well, I'm going to get on off this thing, and I heard there's a lot of people.
[01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  So you guys have a good night. Appreciate everything you do.
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:49.000]  All right, Clint, thanks for calling in. Appreciate it a lot.
[01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:50.000]  You're welcome. Take care, Eddie.
[01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:51.000]  All right, good night.
[01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:57.000]  Okay, let's see, right now we have Dominic, Paul, Jeff, Gary, and Ben.
[01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  Okay, let's go to Dominic.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  Dominic, what you got for us?
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.000]  I just had a question because I had to work today.
[01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  I just wanted to know how it went in court.
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  Not well.
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.000]  Okay.
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  But we will definitely be going over some of the issues on Sunday.
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  Just remember, we start an hour later this Sunday because of an event that was scheduled months ago.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.000]  So it will be three to six this coming Sunday instead of two to five.
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:31.000]  Duly noted.
[01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:34.000]  All right, so that's all I wanted to check on.
[01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  All right, Dominic, thanks for calling in and checking up.
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  Thank you, y'all. Take care.
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  All right.
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:40.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:41.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:44.000]  All right, let's go to Paul in Illinois.
[01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  Paul, what can we do for you?
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  Just calling to see if there's a group in Illinois that you know about,
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:36:03.000]  that I can work with and learn from, listen to your calls, I can get in touch with.
[01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  I do not have an answer to that question.
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  I can tell you that I am working on trying to get my website up that will have a link in
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  and join up section on it where people can basically join up with each other through my website.
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  You can get information about people in your state and possibly in your general area
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  that y'all may be able to, you know, join a group that already exists or start one of your own.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  Right now I do not know of any in your area,
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:40.000]  but if there are any folks in Illinois listening to us besides this gentleman,
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  if you would send me an email, and you too as well, if you'll send me an email
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:51.000]  and let me know that you're willing to participate in these issues and discussions,
[01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  whether it be by email or Skype chat or whatever or even in person if you're in the same general area,
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  send me an email and let me know that.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  I'll do my best to try to get everybody collected in a database or a spreadsheet or something
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:12.000]  where I can keep you associated to say, yeah, here's a person you can contact.
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  Please send me whatever contact information you want the others to use to get in touch with you.
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:25.000]  Do not give me information to contact you with that's going to run up your phone bill
[01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:30.000]  or anything of that nature unless you intend to use it for that purpose.
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.000]  If you prefer email, give me email.
[01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:38.000]  If you prefer Skype, give me your Skype contact information and I will pass it on.
[01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  But be sure you only give me a phone number if you don't have a problem with using up your minutes with other people.
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  So that being said, if someone from Illinois gets in touch with me and lets me know
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  and you'll send me a contact email for yourself, I will do my best to hook you up.
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:01.000]  Yeah, and folks, I just got hooked up with a webmaster today.
[01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:06.000]  I've been looking for a webmaster for like two years now, something that is a reasonable,
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  somebody that charges reasonable rates.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:15.000]  Last time I tried to hire somebody, they wanted to charge me $1,500 to set up a rudimentary WordPress page.
[01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  I said no thanks.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  That's what I've been getting, you know, as far as, you know, proposals to me.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  But at any rate, I think I finally found a good webmaster who is in the Truth Movement.
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.000]  He's a head of a We Are Change chapter.
[01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  And he and I have been discussing today revamping the network website, which has needed to be done for a long time.
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  And he said that he can set it up to be a social networking website as well
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  so that all of our listeners will be able to network with each other.
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:53.000]  And so, Paul, if you just hang tight, hopefully within a few weeks there will be a big change
[01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:59.000]  on the radio network website where folks can actually start to network with each other.
[01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  Very well.
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  Thank you, Deborah.
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  All right.
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  Thank you, Paul.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  All right.
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  We have Jeff in Texas now.
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.000]  Jeff, thank you for calling in.
[01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:14.000]  I actually have a couple of questions.
[01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  One for Eddie regarding the Sunday seminar meeting.
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:25.000]  So, like, you know, I was able to make it this past Sunday, but, you know,
[01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:29.000]  driving three hours from up here from the DFW area is long.
[01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.000]  I know you record those.
[01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  Is there a way we can get those, like, for next weekend if I can't make it?
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  Is there?
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  Actually, right now I am not personally recording them.
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  A lot of the people that attend the class are recording them.
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:49.000]  So what I would highly recommend is that you exchange information with the folks in the class
[01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  and see if any of them that are recording them would be willing to share a copy of it with you.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  I mean, I don't have any problems with it, but I personally, right now,
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:03.000]  I just don't have the time to sit down and record and bring it home and edit it
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.000]  and set it up to be distributed for other people to use.
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  I wish I did, and I'm trying to find a way to either webcast these as we do them
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:21.000]  or to record them on video so that we can, you know, put them out there for people to access later on
[01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  for, you know, just a little bit of a fee so we can keep the money coming in for the network.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  But right now I just don't have the means and ability to do it.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  But like I say, if you come down to the class, hook up with the people that are there.
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  I don't have any problem with them sharing what they record down there,
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  and I'm sure if they're able to send it out via email, they'll be more than happy to do it for you.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  Okay.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  One more thing.
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:58.000]  Kind of a basic question, but in the seminar material under the pretrial filings,
[01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:07.000]  is the pretrial not relating to anything other than the trial itself after the jury panel, correct?
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  Okay, in the pretrial is everything that you can do up to the day before trial.
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:28.000]  The actual trial, when you get to under stages of process when you have folder 04 trial filings,
[01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:37.000]  that's the stuff that you have to file before trial, but it's for everything that you need at trial.
[01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  Understandable.
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:42.000]  Or that you need to make issue of at trial.
[01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.000]  Okay.
[01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  No matter what is in these folders, all of it has to go in before trial at some point,
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:59.000]  with the possible exceptions of motion to disqualify and affidavit in support of disqualification,
[01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:01.000]  or a motion to quash the complaint.
[01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:08.000]  That has to go in no later than one day prior to trial on the merits.
[01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:09.000]  Okay.
[01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  So everything else, the court rules are generally set up where you need to have it in no later than seven days prior to trial,
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:25.000]  unless you ask for leave of the court, is the general local rule they're trying to use.
[01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.000]  The problem is, in the particular case I went and watched today,
[01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:38.000]  is that the motions that were filed went directly to jurisdiction and due process violations,
[01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:44.000]  which you do not need leave of the court to file a challenge to.
[01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:50.000]  The court cannot say, oh, I grant you permission to challenge jurisdiction.
[01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  I give you permission to challenge a due process violation.
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:58.000]  Doesn't work that way.
[01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:01.000]  They can give you permission to an amend the pleading.
[01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  They can give you permission to set a motion that requires a motion hearing that does not deal with jurisdiction or due process issues,
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  such as discovery or motion to compel or to produce or things of that nature.
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  Those they can tell you you need to ask to leave of the court for,
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  but not for jurisdiction and due process, which is what these particular motions went to.
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  Does that help?
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  All right, we're about to go to break, so do you have anything else for us on the other side?
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:40.000]  No, sir, that's it.
[01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:45.000]  All right, Jeff, thank you so much for calling in, and we do appreciate it when you make it down there to see us.
[01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  Hopefully you will one of these days if you haven't already.
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[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:27.000]  Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens, Randy Kelton, who of course is in Australia,
[01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  tearing it up with the Great Whites and the Funnel Web Spiders
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:33.000]  and whoever else will listen to him at any given time.
[01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  We expect him back sometime after the end of the month,
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  so pray that he makes it back safely and that he accomplishes the mission he went over to do,
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  which was, as the story goes, create the Randall Kelton of Australia
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:48.000]  through some of the people that he's training while he's there.
[01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Let's wish him lots of success in that area.
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  Right now, we have Gary in Georgia, and the call board is empty after Gary.
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:00.000]  We are in our last segment, so if Gary doesn't take up our last segment,
[01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:05.000]  we will need another caller, 512-646-1984.
[01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  Call us. I'll try my best to get to you.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:11.000]  All right, Gary, what you got for us tonight?
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  Well, this is, I guess you'd say, a comment on courts of no record,
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  that here in Georgia we have what we call records courts, grass cop courts,
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:30.000]  where they call it criminal, or even traffic issues,
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  where you get a citation and then they call it a summons,
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  but nobody really swears to it, meaning the accuser,
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  which would be, oh, so you go to court and they call it a citation,
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  not a summons, but a citation to me is you're just quoting anything,
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:55.000]  that the moon is blue or whatever.
[01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  Actually, Gary, if you look up the legal definition of citation,
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  it means summons.
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  Thank you. Very good, sir, I appreciate that.
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  Okay, so then you're there, and who is there?
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  A person, many times here in Columbus, Georgia,
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:20.000]  they appoint these attorneys pro tem as judges,
[01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  and so when you get there, you got the law enforcement officer,
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:29.000]  you have the so-called judge and himself and no prosecutor.
[01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:37.000]  Now, how on God's green earth can this so-called judge judge anything
[01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  except himself?
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:45.000]  He's not a witness, and in all issues, of course, they have standing.
[01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  You have to have an injury in fact, some complaining party.
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.000]  It's the duty of a law enforcement officer to investigate.
[01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  They give probable cause, but that's not even it.
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:03.000]  So I'd just like to know your comment on the legality of,
[01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  here's a lawyer first thing, and he's appointed by the city council
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  as a so-called judge in a so-called court
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  that you don't have discovery, you don't have jury trials.
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:23.000]  It really gets to be just a show, and in my county,
[01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  I've been there just to watch trials, and I've been escorted out,
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  but that's not even about the question either.
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  The whole question for this show is,
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:41.000]  where is the legality of an attorney becoming an appointed judge
[01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:47.000]  never elected, then want to put people in jail
[01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  safe for a so-called broken taillight or no insurance,
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  and there's no prosecutor.
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  So I'd just like to know what your comment on that is, sir.
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:05.000]  Well, the issue comes down to the jurisdiction of this alleged court.
[01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:09.000]  Let's analyze real quick how this is supposed to be set up.
[01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  There are three types of courts.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  There's criminal, there's civil, there's administrative.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.000]  In order for there to be a crime, there has to be a harm,
[01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  or there has to be an alleged harm in the form of a prohibitum violation,
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:31.000]  meaning you did something wrong simply because the statutes say it's wrong,
[01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:34.000]  not because someone was actually hurt
[01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:39.000]  or because you intended for someone to actually be hurt.
[01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  That's the difference between malum prohibitum and malum inse.
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  One requires intent, one does not.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:53.000]  Now, in the case of a civil, there has to be a harm
[01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  because of a violation of a contracted duty.
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:03.000]  Someone had to agree to be bound by some agreement,
[01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:09.000]  and they failed to meet their duty under that agreement.
[01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  The third is administrative, which requires, one,
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:18.000]  that the individual appearing before the administrative tribunal
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  is under the jurisdiction of that tribunal.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  As I said, it does not matter which of these three courts you appear in.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  Every court must have three types of jurisdiction,
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  or they have zero jurisdiction.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.000]  They must have subject matter, meaning it must be an issue
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  that that court has authority by law to adjudicate.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:51.000]  Two, it must have venue jurisdiction,
[01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  meaning that the act alleged must have been committed
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  within the territorial jurisdiction of that particular court.
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  And third, they must have impersonal jurisdiction.
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  The alleged offense must have occurred within the venue of the court,
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:20.000]  and it must be a subject that court has jurisdiction over
[01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:25.000]  when it was committed by this person.
[01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:29.000]  That's the only way to get impersonal jurisdiction.
[01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:35.000]  Now, in the administrative venue, which is exactly what you're describing,
[01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:39.000]  where is the impersonal jurisdiction?
[01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:45.000]  What was the mechanism used to bring the individual
[01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  under the jurisdictional thumb of this administrative tribunal?
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  Because by definition, in order for an administrative tribunal to exist,
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  it must be through the administrative process of some department.
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:13.000]  Now, how does a private citizen fall under the administrative jurisdiction
[01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  of a public office or any other governmental office?
[01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:25.000]  They're not elected, they're not appointed, they're not contracted,
[01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  so how did they get in the administrative jurisdiction to begin with?
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:34.000]  That's part of the problem.
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.000]  Without that administrative jurisdiction,
[01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  there is no impersonal jurisdiction
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:44.000]  because that person's not within the realm of authority
[01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  of the person that that court has jurisdiction over.
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  Normally, it would require, let's take, for instance, McDonald's.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  McDonald's has a set of administrative procedures.
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  They call it corporate policy.
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  Do government agencies have policy?
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:06.000]  Absolutely.
[01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  Their rules and regulations are the implementation of the law
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  as they understand it,
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:20.000]  and it is based upon the policy of that corporation or that company
[01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  or that government office as to how they're going to fulfill their duties
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:28.000]  under those regulations and that law.
[01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  How did you, as a private citizen,
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:36.000]  come under their thumb for administrative purposes?
[01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  I fail to see how that gets made unless you volunteer into it.
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:44.000]  That's the only way I can see.
[01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:50.000]  They accuse you of being in their jurisdiction, and you go, oh, okay.
[01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:53.000]  You volunteered into it.
[01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  By your acquiescence, the record accepts that you admit you are,
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:03.000]  and by your admission, they're no longer required to prove it.
[01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:08.000]  So now the record reflects an admitted jurisdiction
[01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:12.000]  of the administrative agency over the individual.
[01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  Now, that's a rather simplified way of looking at it,
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  but it's pretty much the way it's got to work.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:23.000]  This is exactly what our guest, Harmon Taylor, was talking about
[01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:27.000]  when it comes to the choice of law.
[01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  If you allow yourself to be subjected to that without objecting,
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:41.000]  then the court or tribunal has presumptive jurisdiction
[01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.000]  because it was not challenged.
[01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  Okay, that is very, very well rendition of what I believe.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:53.000]  It's just one point.
[01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  In the operation of law, and as you said and I say too,
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:04.000]  the law has to come, the statutory law cannot override
[01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:07.000]  somewhat individual's rights.
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:12.000]  Now, we grew up believing a lot of things had happened,
[01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:16.000]  but I know that I get a notice and say,
[01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:21.000]  we have received payment for your green card, or you're going to be deported.
[01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  Those things happen all the time, like IRS issues and so many other issues,
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.000]  and I go ahead and do it.
[01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:33.000]  It's like I was playing when I was 16 and getting a driver's license.
[01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  I didn't know it any better.
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:39.000]  Nobody said it, no one else objected, so I volunteer in it.
[01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:45.000]  But by operational law, it's really legal because we got the perjury clause there.
[01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  Otherwise, they'd get me either way committing perjury,
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  and therefore it's a violation, it's a crime to violate perjury.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:02.000]  So the issue about presumption is like the air bursting bubble theory.
[01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  You do have to know how to burst a bubble and come back.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  That's where it's with intent to deceive.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:18.000]  So with that said, sir, I think it's a really, really good puzzle,
[01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  but it goes right back to subject matter jurisdiction
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:26.000]  because they had no authority to regulate people,
[01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:32.000]  private individuals' conduct by some regulation.
[01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:37.000]  And now I can't volunteer, and that comes under the can laws,
[01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  meaning we can do this because you don't know any better.
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:48.000]  But anyway, I appreciate your take on it, and anyone listening, I certainly agree with you.
[01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:52.000]  And that's my thoughts, too.
[01:57:52.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  With one exception, I cannot volunteer to have a green card.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  So here's your music, and have a pleasant evening.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Thank you very much.
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  All right, thank you, Gary.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:06.000]  Yes.
[01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:07.000]  All right, have a good night.
[01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:13.000]  All right, folks, don't forget the ND Club 501 brush sheets at 5th and I-35,
[01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.000]  right on the east side, one block to the east of I-35 on 5th Street.
[01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  Come out for the fundraiser for 90.1.
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:20.000]  It's not a fundraiser for rule of law.
[01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:27.000]  It is a fundraiser for 90.1 for the legal fund to take this case to the next level for the appeal.
[01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:28.000]  We'll be playing.
[01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:29.000]  We go on at 10.
[01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  The event starts at 9.
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  $5 cover charge.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  It's not much, but the more people we get out, the more money we'll be able to raise.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  And, of course, if you want to donate more, that will be much sincerely appreciated.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:46.000]  So we will be running our class Thursday night, and hopefully we will be back on Friday night.
[01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:52.000]  It's going to depend on Eddie if he's back from Robert Fox's trial in Cherokee County.
[01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:53.000]  We'll see you this Thursday, folks.
[01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:57.000]  Good night.
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