ROL_2011-04-29_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:09.360]  At least 16 people were killed Friday when Syrian security forces fired at thousands
[00:09.360 --> 00:12.720]  of protesters trying to enter the besieged city of Daraa.
[00:12.720 --> 00:16.760]  Army units patrolled the streets of several cities, including the capital Damascus, site
[00:16.760 --> 00:22.080]  of the largest ever protest against President Bashar al-Assad's decade-long rule.
[00:22.080 --> 00:26.480]  More than 100 protesters were killed in Daraa a week ago.
[00:26.480 --> 00:31.960]  A surge by the left-leaning New Democratic Party has unsettled the status quo as Canada
[00:31.960 --> 00:34.460]  prepares to go to the polls Monday.
[00:34.460 --> 00:39.680]  Canada's election has been dominated by speculation over how likely the NDP, which is calling
[00:39.680 --> 00:44.720]  for an end to oil company subsidies and a hike in corporate taxes, could replace the
[00:44.720 --> 00:48.600]  Liberals as the official opposition.
[00:48.600 --> 00:54.280]  The latest Rasmussen poll shows that just 9% say Congress is doing a good or excellent
[00:54.280 --> 00:57.520]  job, down from 13% last month.
[00:57.520 --> 01:03.360]  56% rate the Congressional performance as poor, the highest negative review since Republicans
[01:03.360 --> 01:07.360]  took control of the House in January.
[01:07.360 --> 01:13.360]  Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil al-Arabi said Thursday Egypt will lift its blockade of Gaza,
[01:13.360 --> 01:17.960]  allowing people and goods to enter the Gaza Strip at the Ra'afah border crossing.
[01:17.960 --> 01:23.720]  The plan is a bold change in policy following Egypt's recent uprising, which ousted longtime
[01:23.720 --> 01:25.320]  dictator Hosni Mubarak.
[01:25.320 --> 01:30.200]  The move indicates that Egyptian officials, now facing a more democratic future, are intent
[01:30.200 --> 01:35.800]  on replacing Mubarak's foreign policy initiatives, convenient for Israel and the U.S., but widely
[01:35.800 --> 01:37.880]  unpopular among Egyptians.
[01:37.880 --> 01:42.760]  An Egyptian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman called the Gaza blockade, quote, shameful.
[01:42.760 --> 01:48.720]  Over 1.5 million Gazans have been living under an Israeli siege since June 2007.
[01:48.720 --> 01:53.560]  In another sign of its emerging regional role, Egypt earlier this week brokered a tentative
[01:53.560 --> 01:58.880]  plan establishing a unity government between the two Palestinian political fractions Hamas
[01:58.880 --> 01:59.880]  and Fatah.
[01:59.880 --> 02:06.240]  Israel has pledged not to deal with any Palestinian government that includes Hamas.
[02:06.240 --> 02:11.840]  A Bahraini court Thursday sentenced four men to death for killing two police officers during
[02:11.840 --> 02:14.360]  pro-democracy protests last month.
[02:14.360 --> 02:20.360]  Critics say King Hamad bin Issa al-Khalifa and the royal family have systematically terrorized
[02:20.360 --> 02:24.760]  the Shia of Bahrain, who make up 70 percent of the population.
[02:24.760 --> 02:29.400]  Shia mosques and shrines are being demolished or wrecked, and anti-Shia graffiti painted
[02:29.400 --> 02:30.400]  on the walls.
[02:30.400 --> 02:35.800]  A Bahraini state television documentary Thursday contained the men's confessions, adding,
[02:35.800 --> 02:39.480]  the long arm of the law catches all those who betrayed the nation.
[02:39.480 --> 02:43.280]  Human rights campaigners say the men were prosecuted because of their activism and were
[02:43.280 --> 02:45.720]  tortured into false confessions.
[02:45.720 --> 02:49.600]  Relatives who attended the trial said there were discrepancies in the evidence given by
[02:49.600 --> 02:51.920]  the coroner and the prosecution.
[02:51.920 --> 02:57.880]  Three more men were given life sentences Thursday, and state media reported a further 400 detainees
[02:57.880 --> 02:58.880]  would be prosecuted.
[02:58.880 --> 02:59.880]  For more details on this story, visit www.inmworldrecord.net.
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[03:45.400 --> 04:04.040]  Okay, this is Grant Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio, and this is
[04:04.040 --> 04:11.600]  our Friday night, Friday the 29th, our four-hour info marathon.
[04:11.600 --> 04:18.880]  The phone lines are open, 512-646-1984.
[04:18.880 --> 04:23.200]  Deborah's going to be taking the night off tonight, she's got some real important work
[04:23.200 --> 04:28.640]  to do on a movie that's going to be coming out relatively soon.
[04:28.640 --> 04:34.040]  So tonight you get to play Stump to Chumps.
[04:34.040 --> 04:35.520]  That means Eddie, of course, not me.
[04:35.520 --> 04:44.040]  Anyway, I was going to start out talking about what we're doing on the bar grievance site.
[04:44.040 --> 04:52.200]  And that thing is, it's not up the way I want it yet, but that's because we have to let
[04:52.200 --> 04:56.280]  things sometimes design themselves.
[04:56.280 --> 04:58.960]  And in this case, that's what it's doing.
[04:58.960 --> 05:09.120]  I went through all of the bar grievance forms for all of the states yesterday, and most
[05:09.120 --> 05:19.560]  of them, about 45% of them, about 45% of them, about 45 of 50, had your name, their name,
[05:19.560 --> 05:22.680]  what do you do, sign and send them.
[05:22.680 --> 05:26.240]  A few of them had a little bit extra on it.
[05:26.240 --> 05:31.680]  So after looking at all that, I decided we're going to make up our own.
[05:31.680 --> 05:38.000]  We don't care what the state wants you to give them, because they want you to give them
[05:38.000 --> 05:41.360]  as little as possible.
[05:41.360 --> 05:50.820]  And Texas, among some others, instruct you not to include any case law in your bar grievance.
[05:50.820 --> 05:53.320]  They don't want to hear about the law.
[05:53.320 --> 05:58.800]  They only want to hear about enough stuff that they can take your complaint and trash
[05:58.800 --> 05:59.800]  it.
[05:59.800 --> 06:03.680]  Well, everybody knows they're going to trash it.
[06:03.680 --> 06:10.920]  So we are working on a strategy so that it won't matter if they trash it or not.
[06:10.920 --> 06:19.320]  So what we're going to do is take the canons of ethics, or I'm sorry, that's for judicial
[06:19.320 --> 06:22.280]  conduct, the bar standards.
[06:22.280 --> 06:28.520]  Every state has a set of standards, and they are very similar because the American Bar
[06:28.520 --> 06:36.500]  Association standards produced a set of model standards, and most of the states adopted
[06:36.500 --> 06:39.560]  those model standards with some variations.
[06:39.560 --> 06:49.120]  Well, we're going to go through the standards, and each place in a standard where it says
[06:49.120 --> 06:52.600]  that an attorney must do a certain thing, we'll prepare a question that says, did the
[06:52.600 --> 06:55.560]  attorney do this thing?
[06:55.560 --> 06:58.960]  And where it says an attorney must not do a certain thing, we'll ask the question,
[06:58.960 --> 07:02.240]  did the attorney do this thing?
[07:02.240 --> 07:07.880]  And I have some very good literature here on malpractice.
[07:07.880 --> 07:13.680]  And most anything that you can sue an attorney for malpractice for, you can bar grievance
[07:13.680 --> 07:15.040]  for.
[07:15.040 --> 07:23.000]  So once we get the questions all up for all of the standards, then we'll go in and under
[07:23.000 --> 07:30.160]  each standard, we'll look through all of the things we can find that attorneys do that
[07:30.160 --> 07:33.680]  violate this standard, and we'll ask questions about it.
[07:33.680 --> 07:37.800]  Did the attorney hold paperwork and not give it back to you?
[07:37.800 --> 07:45.480]  Did the attorney fail to address a defense or an issue in court that caused you to receive
[07:45.480 --> 07:47.760]  less settlement than you otherwise would have?
[07:47.760 --> 07:49.400]  Was he late on the deadline?
[07:49.400 --> 07:52.760]  Did he give you false or misleading information?
[07:52.760 --> 07:55.440]  Did he explain everything so you understood it?
[07:55.440 --> 08:03.200]  There's just a whole ream of things that an attorney can get in trouble for.
[08:03.200 --> 08:10.120]  One thing I'm relatively certain of, no one who is an attorney read this book on malpractice
[08:10.120 --> 08:16.640]  before they became an attorney, or they went and flipped hamburgers somewhere.
[08:16.640 --> 08:25.040]  So we will put in a set of questions and this way, when someone goes to the site and walks
[08:25.040 --> 08:32.240]  through the questionnaire, it will give them a very good education on what attorneys are
[08:32.240 --> 08:38.480]  supposed to do and what they're not supposed to do, just by the very act of answering the
[08:38.480 --> 08:41.280]  questions we pose.
[08:41.280 --> 08:50.660]  And then once you're finished, the program, the page, will allow you to download the form
[08:50.660 --> 08:52.160]  all printed out.
[08:52.160 --> 08:58.640]  You fill out the questions, it will create a form, and you can download it.
[08:58.640 --> 09:04.160]  And just all you have to do is sign it before a notary and send it.
[09:04.160 --> 09:12.880]  But it will also save the grievance to our website.
[09:12.880 --> 09:18.920]  And in the title of the page, you know when you bring up a page on a website, up at the
[09:18.920 --> 09:22.880]  top it tells you a title for the page.
[09:22.880 --> 09:29.640]  Well in search engines, they have a section in the page for meta tags.
[09:29.640 --> 09:37.600]  And this is a section where you put in key words that go to the nature of your site.
[09:37.600 --> 09:41.840]  And then someone, if they do a search and use one of those key words, it will tend to
[09:41.840 --> 09:43.920]  get a hit on your site.
[09:43.920 --> 09:50.880]  But people were putting so many words in the meta tags that the meta tags have become somewhat
[09:50.880 --> 09:53.320]  disfavored by the search engines.
[09:53.320 --> 09:58.200]  What has not become disfavored is the title.
[09:58.200 --> 10:05.280]  So when this thing posts the page, the title of the page will be the name of the person
[10:05.280 --> 10:08.720]  complained against.
[10:08.720 --> 10:13.880]  That way if anybody goes on the web and does a search for this person's name, they'll get
[10:13.880 --> 10:17.360]  a hit right on that title.
[10:17.360 --> 10:25.920]  Or if the attorney is an attorney and is part of a law firm, it will put in the title the
[10:25.920 --> 10:29.920]  law firm and the attorney.
[10:29.920 --> 10:35.960]  Now normally when you file a bar grievance against an attorney, it becomes secret.
[10:35.960 --> 10:41.560]  It's not in California and a couple of other states, but in Utah, if you file a bar grievance
[10:41.560 --> 10:46.600]  and didn't reveal that bar grievance to someone, that's a felony.
[10:46.600 --> 10:50.360]  These attorneys really want to cover their tracks.
[10:50.360 --> 10:58.800]  Their problem is when you fill out the bar grievance on my site, well, it's not filed
[10:58.800 --> 11:02.440]  yet, so it's not secret yet.
[11:02.440 --> 11:11.840]  And in the process of filling out this grievance, you revealed it to me, and that's okay because
[11:11.840 --> 11:13.760]  it's not secret yet.
[11:13.760 --> 11:18.040]  But once you file it, you can't talk about it.
[11:18.040 --> 11:20.280]  But I can.
[11:20.280 --> 11:25.600]  That requirement of secrecy does not come back to me.
[11:25.600 --> 11:35.000]  So we will have a place where these attorneys can't hide their shenanigans.
[11:35.000 --> 11:44.880]  I was reading in the bar site on California, on the list of attorneys they sanctioned,
[11:44.880 --> 11:46.760]  and they sanctioned this attorney for six months.
[11:46.760 --> 11:58.360]  He couldn't practice for six months because he had taken retainers from thousands of clients
[11:58.360 --> 12:02.680]  and provided no service.
[12:02.680 --> 12:06.600]  And that's what it took to get him sanctioned, worth thousands.
[12:06.600 --> 12:18.000]  Well, we'll see if we can fix that because the website that produces the bar grievance
[12:18.000 --> 12:26.080]  will be linked to another website that doesn't produce bar grievances.
[12:26.080 --> 12:30.600]  It will produce a malpractice suit.
[12:30.600 --> 12:39.920]  So all you have to do to sue the attorney for malpractice is download, sign, and send.
[12:39.920 --> 12:47.080]  I suspect when I get this up, we're going to get their attention.
[12:47.080 --> 12:53.320]  But if anybody thinks this is for the purpose of beating up attorneys, I assure you it is
[12:53.320 --> 12:56.520]  not.
[12:56.520 --> 13:04.040]  This is for the purpose of giving attorneys the opportunity to really go out there and
[13:04.040 --> 13:07.280]  do their jobs.
[13:07.280 --> 13:13.800]  I don't know any attorney that went to law school for four, six, eight years so that
[13:13.800 --> 13:19.160]  he could get out and go into practice and spend the rest of his professional career
[13:19.160 --> 13:24.080]  kissing some arrogant judges behind.
[13:24.080 --> 13:27.080]  But that's what they have to do.
[13:27.080 --> 13:33.120]  If attorneys seem jaded and frustrated, that's because they can't fight for your rights even
[13:33.120 --> 13:35.440]  if they want to.
[13:35.440 --> 13:38.560]  They don't dare.
[13:38.560 --> 13:48.720]  These judges have set themselves up as royalty, and they can do anything they want.
[13:48.720 --> 13:56.920]  And an attorney is not going to raise a peep unless he's about to retire, because when
[13:56.920 --> 14:00.960]  he raises the peep, the judges will retire him.
[14:00.960 --> 14:05.160]  I sued Denton County once for $11 million.
[14:05.160 --> 14:10.560]  I called attorneys for six months trying to get someone to represent my case.
[14:10.560 --> 14:12.600]  I kept track of them.
[14:12.600 --> 14:15.480]  Every famous attorney I could find, I called.
[14:15.480 --> 14:23.880]  I called one in Houston who had recently won a very large civil rights case.
[14:23.880 --> 14:29.680]  And when I told him what I was doing, this guy just came unglued on me.
[14:29.680 --> 14:31.720]  Don't even talk to me about that.
[14:31.720 --> 14:35.880]  You have no idea the misery and grief they put me through.
[14:35.880 --> 14:39.640]  They may put me out of business yet, and just ragged on me.
[14:39.640 --> 14:43.420]  He was, I really felt for this guy.
[14:43.420 --> 14:51.480]  They had absolutely ruined him because he actually stood up for someone's rights.
[14:51.480 --> 14:52.480]  He was angry.
[14:52.480 --> 14:54.220]  He wasn't angry at me.
[14:54.220 --> 14:57.720]  He was just angry and bitter.
[14:57.720 --> 15:02.080]  The last attorney I called was number 60.
[15:02.080 --> 15:06.560]  He was the previous district attorney for Denton County.
[15:06.560 --> 15:09.600]  I sued the current district attorney.
[15:09.600 --> 15:18.840]  Several judges, 24 litigants altogether, court employees, police officers, judges and prosecutors.
[15:18.840 --> 15:20.840]  His name was Jerry Cobb.
[15:20.840 --> 15:21.840]  I called him.
[15:21.840 --> 15:22.840]  I said, hello, Jerry.
[15:22.840 --> 15:28.240]  My name is Randall Kelton, and I had sued Denton County for $11 million, and I need
[15:28.240 --> 15:29.760]  someone to represent my suit.
[15:29.760 --> 15:32.240]  Oh, Mr. Kelton, I know all about your suit.
[15:32.240 --> 15:33.680]  I can't represent you.
[15:33.680 --> 15:39.480]  You made allegations against judges in there, and I have to represent clients in this county.
[15:39.480 --> 15:41.840]  I said, what's the matter, Jerry?
[15:41.840 --> 15:47.960]  You're afraid them judges will screw your next client to get back at you?
[15:47.960 --> 15:52.280]  He said the same thing every other attorney had.
[15:52.280 --> 15:54.680]  You darn right they will.
[15:54.680 --> 16:04.200]  Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that attorneys think it's true.
[16:04.200 --> 16:12.360]  So we put up the site, and we put the attorney in a position to where he has plausible deniability.
[16:12.360 --> 16:16.960]  Now he can go to the judge and say, sorry, judge, I have to do my job, because these
[16:16.960 --> 16:21.680]  guys are going to sue the crap hole out of me if I don't.
[16:21.680 --> 16:28.640]  We'll actually get attorneys who can be proud of themselves for being attorneys again.
[16:28.640 --> 16:33.240]  So when I come back, I'm going to ask you guys for some help.
[16:33.240 --> 16:35.440]  I get people who say they want to help do research.
[16:35.440 --> 16:40.200]  Well, I have some interested research that I'm going to try to get somebody, at least
[16:40.200 --> 16:42.920]  one person in every state to help me with.
[16:42.920 --> 16:47.360]  This is Randy Kelton, WC with Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
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[19:19.840 --> 19:39.520]  Okay, we're back, Randy Kelton with WU Law Radio.
[19:39.520 --> 19:52.520]  We're talking about a bar grievance site we're putting together and I have the structure of how we're going to do it.
[19:52.520 --> 20:03.080]  We'll build in a section on so that you can select any type of law in the area of practice
[20:03.080 --> 20:05.600]  and I actually found that on the New Jersey site.
[20:05.600 --> 20:09.880]  They had all of these different selection boxes.
[20:09.880 --> 20:21.040]  That sort of gave me an idea of not only selecting types of law but also a set of check boxes
[20:21.040 --> 20:25.360]  to check off all the kind of shenanigans they pull.
[20:25.360 --> 20:36.320]  What I need from my listeners is a tall glass of water.
[20:36.320 --> 20:47.680]  Actually, anybody who has time, I need all the cannons, excuse me just a second, pick
[20:47.680 --> 20:48.680]  it up.
[20:48.680 --> 20:56.320]  While Randy's busy trying to cough up whatever hairball he's got, I do appreciate all his
[20:56.320 --> 21:00.040]  efforts and everything but honestly I think he's giving way too much credit to the personality
[21:00.040 --> 21:02.000]  and nature of attorneys.
[21:02.000 --> 21:06.240]  Every time he talks about these attorneys wanting to do a good job and wanting to represent
[21:06.240 --> 21:11.640]  their client properly, I come back to the old story of the scorpion and the frog.
[21:11.640 --> 21:16.760]  In case you've never heard it, there's a scorpion next to a riverbank figuring out
[21:16.760 --> 21:20.240]  how he's going to get to the other side when a frog comes along.
[21:20.240 --> 21:23.800]  The scorpion says, how about if you let me hop up on your back, you give me a ride across
[21:23.800 --> 21:24.800]  the river?
[21:24.800 --> 21:27.720]  Well, the frog looks at him and he says, but you're a scorpion.
[21:27.720 --> 21:31.280]  If I put you on my back and try to cross the river, you'll sting me and then we'll both
[21:31.280 --> 21:32.280]  drown.
[21:32.280 --> 21:35.280]  The scorpion says, well, that's simply not logical.
[21:35.280 --> 21:37.400]  Why would I do that?
[21:37.400 --> 21:41.920]  The frog thinks about it for a minute and he says, all right, I'll give you a ride.
[21:41.920 --> 21:46.720]  The scorpion crawls up on his back, halfway across the river he stings the frog and as
[21:46.720 --> 21:49.560]  they're sinking, the frog says, now we're both going to die.
[21:49.560 --> 21:51.760]  Why would you do that?
[21:51.760 --> 21:55.800]  The scorpion, as he sinks, just looks at him and says, because it's in my nature.
[21:55.800 --> 22:01.560]  Well, that's pretty much the way I see these attorneys because most of them don't have
[22:01.560 --> 22:06.480]  to turn out to be arrogant SOBs, but they do.
[22:06.480 --> 22:12.080]  Most of them don't have to treat people like they're less than human, but most of them
[22:12.080 --> 22:13.920]  do.
[22:13.920 --> 22:19.800]  I think it goes beyond just the judges holding stuff over their head.
[22:19.800 --> 22:24.360]  I think a lot of these people become attorneys because they like the power that they feel
[22:24.360 --> 22:30.920]  it gives them over other people's lives and property and they take advantage of it.
[22:30.920 --> 22:37.120]  Well, yeah, I'm sure there are attorneys who do that.
[22:37.120 --> 22:44.520]  But in any barrel full of apples, there's going to be a few rotten ones and they tend
[22:44.520 --> 22:53.840]  to infect the ones around them, especially when what they do becomes institutionalized.
[22:53.840 --> 22:58.440]  I have more respect for human nature than that.
[22:58.440 --> 23:02.760]  I think we were made better than that.
[23:02.760 --> 23:07.640]  And that given the opportunity, the best of us will come out.
[23:07.640 --> 23:15.640]  Now granted, the best of us doesn't always come out unless it's kicked out.
[23:15.640 --> 23:17.120]  But that's okay.
[23:17.120 --> 23:20.080]  I'm prepared to kick it out of them.
[23:20.080 --> 23:23.880]  Besides, it's fun.
[23:23.880 --> 23:28.400]  Just think of all the whining and wiping and grumbling we're going to get to hear from
[23:28.400 --> 23:35.160]  these attorneys when they actually have to do their jobs.
[23:35.160 --> 23:41.040]  But in order to help me get that done, if we have anybody out there who has some time
[23:41.040 --> 23:50.240]  and is willing to help me with some research, pull down the standards of ethics or the standards
[23:50.240 --> 23:55.880]  of disciplinary procedure for your state.
[23:55.880 --> 24:01.840]  Go through those standards, best if we can find them in an HTML document as opposed to
[24:01.840 --> 24:02.840]  a PDF.
[24:02.840 --> 24:09.000]  PDFs are kind of a trick to make changes to.
[24:09.000 --> 24:12.320]  And most of them are on the web in the form of a PDF.
[24:12.320 --> 24:14.560]  If not on the state site, you can do a search.
[24:14.560 --> 24:22.320]  Like I did a search for Texas rules of disciplinary procedure, PDF full text.
[24:22.320 --> 24:24.920]  And about the third hit, I got one.
[24:24.920 --> 24:33.080]  If I could open it up in a word processor and go in and everywhere the standard commands
[24:33.080 --> 24:37.000]  them to do something, I put in the question, did they do this?
[24:37.000 --> 24:38.000]  Did they do that?
[24:38.000 --> 24:40.920]  And go through the whole thing that way.
[24:40.920 --> 24:48.760]  Then I can take it and write a spec on it and send it to a programmer and have him number
[24:48.760 --> 24:56.960]  the questions by the number of the statute and then have it cut out the statute and put
[24:56.960 --> 24:59.040]  it in a pop-up box.
[24:59.040 --> 25:05.840]  So when the person answering the questionnaire rolls their mouse over the question, a box
[25:05.840 --> 25:12.520]  will pop up and show the standard that the question was derived from.
[25:12.520 --> 25:18.400]  And then at the end of the question, there will be a hyperlink where the person can click
[25:18.400 --> 25:26.840]  on the hyperlink and go to the actual text of the standards in context so they can read
[25:26.840 --> 25:32.880]  the ones above it and the ones below it so they can see in the context that it's in.
[25:32.880 --> 25:34.800]  That I can have a programmer do easy enough.
[25:34.800 --> 25:40.200]  But asking the questions, that takes somebody who can think.
[25:40.200 --> 25:46.080]  And I haven't had good luck with thinking programmers.
[25:46.080 --> 25:48.640]  Most of them do, but they don't think.
[25:48.640 --> 25:53.320]  So anyway, if anybody has time and is willing to do it, I would appreciate any of those
[25:53.320 --> 25:55.480]  we can get.
[25:55.480 --> 26:00.840]  As soon as I get the main states, I'll get these things put up.
[26:00.840 --> 26:06.360]  We'll start linking to every legal reform side in the country.
[26:06.360 --> 26:10.960]  I expect this thing to move very quickly.
[26:10.960 --> 26:16.480]  And I expect attorneys to start getting excited very quickly.
[26:16.480 --> 26:20.600]  And they'll be jumping up and down and screaming and hollering and waving their hands.
[26:20.600 --> 26:28.960]  And the timing is good because any legislature that's in session at this time of the year
[26:28.960 --> 26:33.000]  is about to finish up and go out of session.
[26:33.000 --> 26:42.000]  So if they try to run around and get themselves some legislative changes, they've got a couple
[26:42.000 --> 26:44.800]  years to get it done, so good luck.
[26:44.800 --> 26:53.040]  By then, this will be so entrenched that it'll probably be almost impossible to stop it anyway.
[26:53.040 --> 26:57.640]  So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[26:57.640 --> 27:00.320]  We're going to go to some callers now.
[27:00.320 --> 27:04.000]  We have Kathy in Texas.
[27:04.000 --> 27:07.840]  Kathy, what do you have for us tonight?
[27:07.840 --> 27:09.280]  Well, hi, Randy.
[27:09.280 --> 27:10.280]  I just...
[27:10.280 --> 27:18.240]  I've got an inspirational story and you've got me all inspired to do other things.
[27:18.240 --> 27:25.400]  So have you actually compiled the Texas rule or are you still looking for Texas and everybody,
[27:25.400 --> 27:26.400]  right?
[27:26.400 --> 27:27.400]  Yes.
[27:27.400 --> 27:35.880]  I pulled the Texas code down and what I was trying to do is get it formatted into an HTML
[27:35.880 --> 27:39.040]  ordered list.
[27:39.040 --> 27:45.960]  And after about two bottles of ibuprofen, I said, heck with this.
[27:45.960 --> 27:50.680]  I'm going to leave it just like it is because we're going to cut it all out anyway.
[27:50.680 --> 27:53.240]  So I don't have the questions on that.
[27:53.240 --> 27:59.080]  What Chris and I have been doing recently is we took the Real Estate Settlement Procedures
[27:59.080 --> 28:05.200]  Act and walked right down it and turned it into questions.
[28:05.200 --> 28:10.600]  And then we took the Truth in Lending Act, walked down it, turned it into questions.
[28:10.600 --> 28:19.080]  And it turns out that there aren't as many questions as you would think.
[28:19.080 --> 28:27.040]  The code is somewhat long, but a lot of it is kind of general housekeeping stuff.
[28:27.040 --> 28:31.040]  There's only about 40 or 50 questions in each one.
[28:31.040 --> 28:36.600]  And once you've been through this questionnaire, you will pretty well know the Real Estate
[28:36.600 --> 28:40.760]  Settlement Procedures Act and Truth in Lending Act better than any attorney I've ever come
[28:40.760 --> 28:42.960]  across.
[28:42.960 --> 28:45.320]  That's what gives us the idea to do this.
[28:45.320 --> 28:48.760]  We do this with bar grievances.
[28:48.760 --> 28:53.320]  The person filling out the complaint when he gets done is going to know the canons of
[28:53.320 --> 28:55.280]  the standards better than the attorney does.
[28:55.280 --> 29:00.120]  Yeah, I would bet most of the attorneys haven't even read them except maybe for their final
[29:00.120 --> 29:02.120]  exam one time.
[29:02.120 --> 29:03.120]  Right.
[29:03.120 --> 29:06.400]  And we're going to heck about in that regard.
[29:06.400 --> 29:13.600]  When they start getting bar grievances every time they turn around and malpractice, oops,
[29:13.600 --> 29:16.000]  we will get their attention.
[29:16.000 --> 29:23.240]  So yes, I would very much like to see Texas, Texas, California, Colorado, Florida, New
[29:23.240 --> 29:24.240]  York.
[29:24.240 --> 29:25.240]  Virginia?
[29:25.240 --> 29:33.480]  These are the ones where we're getting the most input and response, North and South Carolina
[29:33.480 --> 29:35.520]  and Tennessee right now at Oklahoma.
[29:35.520 --> 29:41.000]  Well, I have attorneys in the family in Texas and Virginia, so I'm going to put out some
[29:41.000 --> 29:44.000]  feelings for that, see what I can do.
[29:44.000 --> 29:45.000]  Wonderful.
[29:45.000 --> 29:46.000]  Okay.
[29:46.000 --> 29:47.000]  Is that it?
[29:47.000 --> 29:48.000]  Do you have something else for the other side?
[29:48.000 --> 29:51.000]  Well, let me tell you a story when we get back if you don't mind.
[29:51.000 --> 29:52.000]  Already.
[29:52.000 --> 29:54.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Devin Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[29:54.000 --> 29:55.000]  We're all ready to go.
[29:55.000 --> 30:00.000]  We'll be right back.
[30:00.000 --> 30:01.000]  I lost my son.
[30:01.000 --> 30:02.000]  My nephew.
[30:02.000 --> 30:03.000]  My uncle.
[30:03.000 --> 30:04.000]  My son.
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[30:08.280 --> 30:12.400]  World Trade Center 7, a 47-story skyscraper, was not hit by a plane.
[30:12.400 --> 30:18.240]  Although the official explanation is that fire brought down Building 7, over 1,200 architects
[30:18.240 --> 30:22.000]  and engineers have looked into the evidence and believe there is more to the story.
[30:22.000 --> 30:25.120]  Bring justice to my son, my uncle, my nephew, my son.
[30:25.120 --> 30:27.360]  Go to buildingwhat.org.
[30:27.360 --> 30:30.720]  Why it fell, why it matters, and what you can do.
[30:30.720 --> 30:34.720]  Are you a sucker for a good deal?
[30:34.720 --> 30:38.800]  New research suggests the way you respond to one of those limited-time offers is all
[30:38.800 --> 30:41.120]  about something your parents gave you at birth.
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[31:23.240 --> 31:25.800]  on how quickly we respond to sales promotions.
[31:25.800 --> 31:29.920]  Georgetown University marketing professor Kurt Carlson has found that adults who grew
[31:29.920 --> 31:34.520]  up with last names starting with the letters R through Z will jump at opportunities three
[31:34.520 --> 31:38.440]  times faster than their peers whose names begin with A through I.
[31:38.440 --> 31:43.000]  Carlson theorizes this has to do with the tradition of lining up school children alphabetically
[31:43.000 --> 31:44.000]  by last name.
[31:44.000 --> 31:48.200]  Kids who always fell at the end of the line developed a need to act quickly after years
[31:48.200 --> 31:49.200]  of being last.
[31:49.200 --> 31:50.880]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[31:50.880 --> 32:18.640]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[32:20.880 --> 32:48.520]  We're talking to Kathy in Texas, and you had a story, an inspirational story you wanted
[32:48.520 --> 32:49.520]  to tell us.
[32:49.520 --> 32:54.280]  I want to tell you, and you and Eddie both and everybody with any scent has said for
[32:54.280 --> 32:56.480]  years, pick your battle.
[32:56.480 --> 32:57.480]  Be careful.
[32:57.480 --> 32:58.920]  Don't just fight for the sake of fighting.
[32:58.920 --> 33:05.280]  So my challenge, I have a challenge actually and an inspiration for everybody out there.
[33:05.280 --> 33:11.280]  Find a battle, and I'm determined that I should fight, but I don't have much time, I don't
[33:11.280 --> 33:12.280]  have much effort.
[33:12.280 --> 33:18.080]  And I've told you this story, Randy, but I feel like everybody needs to hear.
[33:18.080 --> 33:23.560]  I picked a little bitty one, and I feel like I got a victory, so we're just going to start
[33:23.560 --> 33:25.520]  picking away at them.
[33:25.520 --> 33:31.960]  So what's happened here, I think we need to sit back and look at with all the Federal
[33:31.960 --> 33:36.480]  Reserve and the banking and all of this stuff going on around us.
[33:36.480 --> 33:38.520]  I'm a member of a credit union.
[33:38.520 --> 33:43.360]  Multiple, multiple people that I know also have credit unions.
[33:43.360 --> 33:48.360]  We've fallen into the same trap at our credit unions as we have with Homeland Security and
[33:48.360 --> 33:49.360]  all this other stuff.
[33:49.360 --> 33:53.400]  We've allowed ourselves to be accustomed to being treated like it's a bank.
[33:53.400 --> 33:57.160]  Well, guess what, a credit union's not a bank.
[33:57.160 --> 33:58.160]  They work for me.
[33:58.160 --> 34:02.640]  It's just like you told us about the government official, the people in the credit union work
[34:02.640 --> 34:03.640]  for me.
[34:03.640 --> 34:05.000]  It's my money.
[34:05.000 --> 34:07.480]  We're not a profit organization.
[34:07.480 --> 34:11.600]  It's nonprofit for the shareholders.
[34:11.600 --> 34:14.440]  So who's in charge here, right?
[34:14.440 --> 34:22.600]  In December, I had occasion to move some money out of my credit union, and at the time, people
[34:22.600 --> 34:28.280]  who I have done business with for 13 years in the credit union sat across the desk for
[34:28.280 --> 34:32.280]  me and said, I need to see your driver's license.
[34:32.280 --> 34:33.280]  And I said, what for?
[34:33.280 --> 34:39.920]  And they said, to make this transaction go, we need to verify that it's you.
[34:39.920 --> 34:43.360]  I said, you've done business with me for 13 years.
[34:43.360 --> 34:44.360]  What's up with that?
[34:44.360 --> 34:45.360]  I said, fine.
[34:45.360 --> 34:46.360]  Look at my driver's license.
[34:46.360 --> 34:47.360]  I will show you my driver's license.
[34:47.360 --> 34:48.360]  Look, it's me, huh?
[34:48.360 --> 34:49.360]  And they looked and said, I have to write it down.
[34:49.360 --> 34:50.360]  I said, you don't have it?
[34:50.360 --> 34:51.360]  They said, no.
[34:51.360 --> 34:52.360]  I said, if you don't have it after 13 years, why in the world do you need it now?
[34:52.360 --> 34:53.360]  And they said, just for your identification.
[34:53.360 --> 34:54.360]  I said, no, I don't think so.
[34:54.360 --> 34:55.360]  I said, I think you're going to finish this transaction without it.
[34:55.360 --> 35:15.080]  Because if you haven't needed it till now, you don't need it.
[35:15.080 --> 35:19.720]  And there was all this whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh going on in the back, and finally the
[35:19.720 --> 35:23.920]  branch manager, who knew me personally, came in and he said, well, I'm signing it off for
[35:23.920 --> 35:24.920]  you.
[35:24.920 --> 35:31.320]  If you verify that it's you, then someone could steal your stuff and, you know, we could be
[35:31.320 --> 35:32.320]  sued.
[35:32.320 --> 35:33.320]  You could sue us, they said.
[35:33.320 --> 35:36.440]  I said, well, you know, I'm not going to sue you.
[35:36.440 --> 35:37.440]  And you know it's me.
[35:37.440 --> 35:41.440]  So I think we're just playing lip games here, but let's just drop it.
[35:41.440 --> 35:42.440]  Fine.
[35:42.440 --> 35:43.440]  So they completed the transaction.
[35:43.440 --> 35:44.440]  OK.
[35:44.440 --> 35:51.360]  Having known that, I know that they don't have my information on file.
[35:51.360 --> 35:56.320]  I went in to do my regular check cashing and whatever that I do on a regular basis.
[35:56.320 --> 35:59.680]  And there was a new branch manager.
[35:59.680 --> 36:00.680]  And I had met her.
[36:00.680 --> 36:01.680]  She knew who I was.
[36:01.680 --> 36:06.320]  I went to a teller that I did not know.
[36:06.320 --> 36:09.840]  And so I went to the teller and I said, OK, I'm introducing myself.
[36:09.840 --> 36:14.560]  I pulled out my driver's license and I said, I know that you don't know me, so I'm going
[36:14.560 --> 36:15.560]  to show you who I am.
[36:15.560 --> 36:18.560]  This is me, and I don't want you to write the number down.
[36:18.560 --> 36:21.560]  But this is to verify that I am who I say I am.
[36:21.560 --> 36:24.560]  And she said, well, I have to type the number in.
[36:24.560 --> 36:26.560]  I said, no, I don't think so.
[36:26.560 --> 36:28.560]  And she said, no, it's required.
[36:28.560 --> 36:30.560]  And I said, no, it's not required.
[36:30.560 --> 36:33.560]  So she called the branch manager over.
[36:33.560 --> 36:36.560]  And she said, what's the problem?
[36:36.560 --> 36:38.560]  So I was holding out my license.
[36:38.560 --> 36:42.560]  And I said, I called her by name, which I won't say here.
[36:42.560 --> 36:44.560]  I said, this is me, remember?
[36:44.560 --> 36:48.560]  And I'm just introducing myself to the teller so that we can finish our business.
[36:48.560 --> 36:54.560]  She reached over and took my license out of my hand and held it up.
[36:54.560 --> 36:56.560]  And I could see her lips moving.
[36:56.560 --> 37:01.560]  And I'm going, you know, you're not memorizing my number, are you, to type it in?
[37:01.560 --> 37:03.560]  And she's just silent.
[37:03.560 --> 37:05.560]  And her lips are still moving.
[37:05.560 --> 37:08.560]  So she reaches over the teller's shoulder and types some stuff.
[37:08.560 --> 37:11.560]  And she says, you can go ahead and finish that.
[37:11.560 --> 37:20.560]  So I looked her right in the eye, and I said, did you type my driver's license number into the system?
[37:20.560 --> 37:22.560]  She did not answer me.
[37:22.560 --> 37:29.560]  But she reached over the teller's shoulder again, typed some more stuff, and she said, I have removed it.
[37:29.560 --> 37:32.560]  I'm going, OK.
[37:32.560 --> 37:34.560]  Like, are we going to fight now or fight later?
[37:34.560 --> 37:38.560]  I was just about to lose it.
[37:38.560 --> 37:41.560]  So I said, fine, you removed it.
[37:41.560 --> 37:42.560]  She said, yes, I removed it.
[37:42.560 --> 37:43.560]  Fine.
[37:43.560 --> 37:44.560]  She walked away.
[37:44.560 --> 37:53.560]  I finished the transaction, and as I was leaving, I asked the teller, I said, would you pull up my screen one more time
[37:53.560 --> 37:58.560]  and tell me if you see my driver's license number on there?
[37:58.560 --> 38:03.560]  And the manager called across the room, and she said, I said, I removed it.
[38:03.560 --> 38:04.560]  I said, fine.
[38:04.560 --> 38:05.560]  I left.
[38:05.560 --> 38:08.560]  Well, of course, for me, that's not fine.
[38:08.560 --> 38:11.560]  And so I started making some phone calls.
[38:11.560 --> 38:18.560]  And I called first the branch manager that had been there, and I said, do you have my driver's license number?
[38:18.560 --> 38:19.560]  And he goes, well, yeah.
[38:19.560 --> 38:22.560]  And he read it right out to me.
[38:22.560 --> 38:23.560]  I said, well, isn't that funny?
[38:23.560 --> 38:24.560]  Because he didn't have it in December.
[38:24.560 --> 38:28.560]  He said, well, I don't know when it got in there, but it's right there.
[38:28.560 --> 38:38.560]  So then I called the security office, and I actually talked to a guy that knows you, Eddie.
[38:38.560 --> 38:41.560]  And he's sort of a person in your position.
[38:41.560 --> 38:52.560]  He left the force some time ago because he couldn't do an honest job, and now he's doing security for the credit union.
[38:52.560 --> 38:55.560]  And we talked about what's on the camera and what can you see.
[38:55.560 --> 39:01.560]  And he pulled up the video and said, oh, yeah, she just took that right out of your hand.
[39:01.560 --> 39:03.560]  Yeah, yeah, OK.
[39:03.560 --> 39:12.560]  So I got a couple of calls back from higher and higher up within our credit union.
[39:12.560 --> 39:18.560]  And I gave them the speech that I hope that we all will give to all of our credit union people.
[39:18.560 --> 39:20.560]  You work for me.
[39:20.560 --> 39:21.560]  You don't need all this stuff.
[39:21.560 --> 39:23.560]  We are not a bank.
[39:23.560 --> 39:28.560]  I had heard in one of these shows somewhere that there's actually a law in the books that I haven't looked up
[39:28.560 --> 39:33.560]  that says that you don't have to have a Social Security number to open a bank account,
[39:33.560 --> 39:35.560]  and especially in a credit union, I would think.
[39:35.560 --> 39:39.560]  And he's arguing with me that these things are required.
[39:39.560 --> 39:45.560]  And when I really pushed and said, what is required by law for you to have,
[39:45.560 --> 39:48.560]  and all he would come up with is the Social Security number
[39:48.560 --> 39:53.560]  because Federal Reserve requires them to report certain things.
[39:53.560 --> 39:54.560]  That's a lie.
[39:54.560 --> 40:00.560]  The banking laws actually say they're required to request the number three times.
[40:00.560 --> 40:03.560]  But if the number is not provided after being requested,
[40:03.560 --> 40:11.560]  the law specifically mandates that banks and or credit unions are simply to put the name of the account holder
[40:11.560 --> 40:19.560]  and the account number on a list that can be generated upon request by the Internal Revenue Service.
[40:19.560 --> 40:20.560]  That's it.
[40:20.560 --> 40:21.560]  Okay.
[40:21.560 --> 40:24.560]  And I need to look up chapter and verse for that one.
[40:24.560 --> 40:30.560]  But I was willing to give him the Social Security because it's been there forever.
[40:30.560 --> 40:37.560]  And even now I may go back and talk to the board and suggest that we all just dump them.
[40:37.560 --> 40:45.560]  But what was happening there was he was listening, and he was arguing with me.
[40:45.560 --> 40:53.560]  His argument was that we, for your security, need the driver's license number with the Social Security
[40:53.560 --> 40:57.560]  so that we are certain it's you.
[40:57.560 --> 41:05.560]  And my response back to him was, well, he was saying because we don't want there to be identity theft.
[41:05.560 --> 41:15.560]  And my response back to him was I had an identity theft done to me in front of my face.
[41:15.560 --> 41:18.560]  My ID was stolen.
[41:18.560 --> 41:32.560]  And I said I'm going to act on that as if somebody stole my ID because my take is if you have my name,
[41:32.560 --> 41:41.560]  my address, my employer, and my Social Security number, the only thing left is my driver's license number.
[41:41.560 --> 41:45.560]  And you've got everything right there in one place.
[41:45.560 --> 41:52.560]  And your computer gets hacked or the Fed comes to you and says give me your information and you cave and say okay.
[41:52.560 --> 41:54.560]  I'm screwed.
[41:54.560 --> 41:57.560]  It's like that's, to me, that is the theft.
[41:57.560 --> 42:02.560]  The theft occurred when I said do not write it down.
[42:02.560 --> 42:06.560]  The response should have been if I don't write it down, I can't do the transaction.
[42:06.560 --> 42:09.560]  Fine, I'd have bought that and walked away.
[42:09.560 --> 42:13.560]  But no, no, the subterfuge was just like this is too much.
[42:13.560 --> 42:16.560]  But push comes to shove.
[42:16.560 --> 42:19.560]  He came down to it and he said what do you want?
[42:19.560 --> 42:23.560]  I said I want the information removed and purged.
[42:23.560 --> 42:26.560]  And I said I don't think you can do it.
[42:26.560 --> 42:29.560]  And he said let me get back to you.
[42:29.560 --> 42:37.560]  And it took him all of, what, 48 hours to get back to me and say it has been removed.
[42:37.560 --> 42:41.560]  And I called and checked and it has been removed.
[42:41.560 --> 42:51.560]  And from that day after when we go into that credit union,
[42:51.560 --> 42:58.560]  the tellers are asking to see it and they are not writing it down.
[42:58.560 --> 43:01.560]  So I consider that a victory.
[43:01.560 --> 43:03.560]  It's small but it's something.
[43:03.560 --> 43:10.560]  And yes, I may actually go back and start hassling about some security number.
[43:10.560 --> 43:13.560]  Well, what I've never figured out is why these banks,
[43:13.560 --> 43:19.560]  what is it with all these idiotic institutions that don't understand that when they collect all this information,
[43:19.560 --> 43:24.560]  if their records get compromised, they've provided everything that's needed for the identity theft.
[43:24.560 --> 43:25.560]  That's right.
[43:25.560 --> 43:26.560]  And that was my argument.
[43:26.560 --> 43:28.560]  I don't want it in one bucket.
[43:28.560 --> 43:29.560]  Yeah.
[43:29.560 --> 43:33.560]  Now, on top of that, let's think of just how simple this system could be.
[43:33.560 --> 43:34.560]  You go into the bank.
[43:34.560 --> 43:36.560]  Well, we'll pick this up on the other side, Kathy.
[43:36.560 --> 43:37.560]  Just hang in there just a minute.
[43:37.560 --> 43:40.560]  We'll get back to it, okay?
[43:40.560 --> 43:41.560]  All right.
[43:41.560 --> 43:42.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[43:42.560 --> 43:44.560]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[43:44.560 --> 43:46.560]  Deborah has the night off.
[43:46.560 --> 43:48.560]  But we are going to break.
[43:48.560 --> 43:52.560]  It is 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[43:52.560 --> 44:19.560]  Give us a call, and we will be right back.
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[45:21.560 --> 45:36.560]  We'll be right back.
[45:36.560 --> 45:55.560]  All right.
[45:55.560 --> 46:20.560]  We'll be right back.
[46:20.560 --> 46:31.560]  All right, folks, we are back.
[46:31.560 --> 46:33.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[46:33.560 --> 46:37.560]  512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[46:37.560 --> 46:40.560]  So if you have anything to talk to us about, give us a call.
[46:40.560 --> 46:43.560]  Tonight is our four-hour marathon, so we will be on for a while.
[46:43.560 --> 46:48.560]  But please don't wait until a quarter to midnight to call in and hope we get to you,
[46:48.560 --> 46:51.560]  because by that time we just won't.
[46:51.560 --> 46:52.560]  All right.
[46:52.560 --> 46:54.560]  Let's finish up with Kathy.
[46:54.560 --> 46:59.560]  Anyway, Kathy, what I was saying before with the break is just imagine how simple this system could be.
[46:59.560 --> 47:01.560]  You go into the bank with your ID.
[47:01.560 --> 47:07.560]  You show them your ID so that they can confirm who you are on the initial opening of the account.
[47:07.560 --> 47:08.560]  All right.
[47:08.560 --> 47:10.560]  They don't have to keep any of that information.
[47:10.560 --> 47:17.560]  They simply take a picture, just like any other place would do, put it into your account information
[47:17.560 --> 47:21.560]  so there's a picture of you right there with your account information.
[47:21.560 --> 47:26.560]  And every time you go in, there's your smiling face compared to the smiling picture.
[47:26.560 --> 47:29.560]  What the heck is the problem?
[47:29.560 --> 47:35.560]  That would be great, but I haven't even needed a picture.
[47:35.560 --> 47:39.560]  We've had individuals in the same jobs for all these years.
[47:39.560 --> 47:41.560]  They have all my information.
[47:41.560 --> 47:47.560]  And each time that you meet a new person, you show the ID.
[47:47.560 --> 47:53.560]  It's worked great the last 13 years that I know of, and that credit union has been there a long time before that.
[47:53.560 --> 47:57.560]  So to me, it's like you don't need to write it down.
[47:57.560 --> 47:59.560]  You don't even need the picture.
[47:59.560 --> 48:04.560]  You need a recognition person to person, and that's the end of it.
[48:04.560 --> 48:12.560]  I consider the picture to be even on the lines of, like, the airport scanners and the bio data.
[48:12.560 --> 48:18.560]  If you have to have my picture in your computer, it's the same as having my information.
[48:18.560 --> 48:25.560]  Those are so easily digitized and passed around now and then with all the recognition cameras all in the streets and everywhere.
[48:25.560 --> 48:29.560]  To me, that's too much already.
[48:29.560 --> 48:31.560]  I want to go back to pen and ink.
[48:31.560 --> 48:37.560]  In fact, I'm going to give myself away, everybody who knows exactly who I am.
[48:37.560 --> 48:43.560]  I don't sign the digitized thing either anywhere, and I think there are...
[48:43.560 --> 48:44.560]  Oh, I do.
[48:44.560 --> 48:45.560]  I just make the X on it.
[48:45.560 --> 48:46.560]  There it's signed.
[48:46.560 --> 48:47.560]  I don't touch it.
[48:47.560 --> 48:48.560]  I said, fine.
[48:48.560 --> 48:49.560]  Put me out a piece of paper.
[48:49.560 --> 48:51.560]  I'll sign it.
[48:51.560 --> 48:52.560]  I'm not signing it.
[48:52.560 --> 48:55.560]  I'm not picking up that pen.
[48:55.560 --> 49:03.560]  So I give them a hard time, but again, let's remember that the credit unions are ours and they're not banks,
[49:03.560 --> 49:06.560]  and that's the reason we put our money there in the first place.
[49:06.560 --> 49:08.560]  We should go to our boards.
[49:08.560 --> 49:10.560]  We should go to the annual meetings.
[49:10.560 --> 49:15.560]  We should tell them to start putting back silver and gold or hard something instead of the money.
[49:15.560 --> 49:20.560]  We should tell them not to do reserve banking because they have an opportunity to do that.
[49:20.560 --> 49:25.560]  And most of the credit unions do much less.
[49:25.560 --> 49:31.560]  Well, I don't know if you'd call it less or more, but their reserves are higher than the other banks.
[49:31.560 --> 49:38.560]  And so there is some smaller level of safety depending on how your board runs their business.
[49:38.560 --> 49:40.560]  But those opportunities are there.
[49:40.560 --> 49:42.560]  That board is open to anyone.
[49:42.560 --> 49:45.560]  You can just show up at the annual meeting.
[49:45.560 --> 49:50.560]  You can write the board member's letters and say, I want this read at the open meeting.
[49:50.560 --> 49:55.560]  You have all kinds of clout within that organization.
[49:55.560 --> 49:58.560]  And again, we've all gotten lazy and so we don't go to those things.
[49:58.560 --> 50:06.560]  It's just the place where I can write a check or use the ATM to get my cash for the week or whatever.
[50:06.560 --> 50:10.560]  And we've gotten lax.
[50:10.560 --> 50:13.560]  So anyway, that's a small thing that I've found that I can actually do.
[50:13.560 --> 50:18.560]  I have time enough to pursue and that it's a big payback.
[50:18.560 --> 50:24.560]  But if we can take back one little credit union, maybe there is some hope to knock the debt down.
[50:24.560 --> 50:29.560]  So anyway, a little at a time.
[50:29.560 --> 50:36.560]  If we had more people doing that, we would have less people needing to do that.
[50:36.560 --> 50:37.560]  So that's why the challenge.
[50:37.560 --> 50:39.560]  I'm giving you a challenge, folks.
[50:39.560 --> 50:40.560]  Let's get on it.
[50:40.560 --> 50:43.560]  Let's take our credit unions back.
[50:43.560 --> 50:51.560]  Because I can't see us quite winning in the Fed thing yet, but we can go at it from the side.
[50:51.560 --> 50:56.560]  Let's go in our little home park and get accurate.
[50:56.560 --> 50:58.560]  Well, thank you, Kathy.
[50:58.560 --> 50:59.560]  I feel inspired.
[50:59.560 --> 51:02.560]  I think I'm going to go down to the bank and start a fight.
[51:02.560 --> 51:03.560]  Don't go to the bank.
[51:03.560 --> 51:06.560]  Go to your credit union and get it set right.
[51:06.560 --> 51:12.560]  I had a guy in Australia send me $1,000 nine days ago, and it disappeared.
[51:12.560 --> 51:14.560]  I'm sorry, $3,000.
[51:14.560 --> 51:16.560]  Nobody seems to know where it's at.
[51:16.560 --> 51:18.560]  How convenient.
[51:18.560 --> 51:19.560]  Yeah, how nice.
[51:19.560 --> 51:20.560]  Yeah.
[51:20.560 --> 51:22.560]  Well, it's not real money anyway.
[51:22.560 --> 51:24.560]  I may go down and start a fight just for the heck of it.
[51:24.560 --> 51:25.560]  Oh, go for it.
[51:25.560 --> 51:26.560]  I'll back you up.
[51:26.560 --> 51:28.560]  Call me if you need me.
[51:28.560 --> 51:29.560]  Okay.
[51:29.560 --> 51:30.560]  Thank you, Kathy.
[51:30.560 --> 51:31.560]  Okay.
[51:31.560 --> 51:32.560]  Well, safe travel.
[51:32.560 --> 51:33.560]  And thank you for all you do.
[51:33.560 --> 51:34.560]  Thank you.
[51:34.560 --> 51:35.560]  Okay.
[51:35.560 --> 51:39.560]  Now we're going to go to Frank in Wisconsin.
[51:39.560 --> 51:41.560]  Frank, what do you have for us?
[51:41.560 --> 51:43.560]  Hey, good evening, Randy and Eddie.
[51:43.560 --> 51:45.560]  Thank you for the work you guys are doing.
[51:45.560 --> 51:49.560]  And also tell us a quick story here.
[51:49.560 --> 51:53.560]  I don't know if it would be quick, but I went to court today with my roommate.
[51:53.560 --> 51:55.560]  A little bit of background, quick background.
[51:55.560 --> 51:59.560]  He was pulled over and charged with operating well.
[51:59.560 --> 52:00.560]  He was intoxicated.
[52:00.560 --> 52:01.560]  He wasn't intoxicated.
[52:01.560 --> 52:03.560]  He didn't speak to the officer.
[52:03.560 --> 52:09.560]  He refused the breathalyzer or did a sobriety test, basically passed that.
[52:09.560 --> 52:12.560]  Then the officer wanted to give him a breathalyzer.
[52:12.560 --> 52:17.560]  And at that point, he asked the question, what are my options if I don't blow?
[52:17.560 --> 52:23.560]  Upon asking that question, the officer put him in handcuffs, spun him around, took him to jail.
[52:23.560 --> 52:29.560]  At that point, you know, they asked him down at the jail if he would blow again in the machine.
[52:29.560 --> 52:30.560]  He said no.
[52:30.560 --> 52:32.560]  They gave him a bond and let him go.
[52:32.560 --> 52:39.560]  So then he goes to court, his initial hearing, and the judge basically goes through, you know,
[52:39.560 --> 52:41.560]  this is what you're charged with.
[52:41.560 --> 52:42.560]  Do you understand all this?
[52:42.560 --> 52:43.560]  Yes, yes.
[52:43.560 --> 52:44.560]  Do you want an attorney?
[52:44.560 --> 52:45.560]  No.
[52:45.560 --> 52:46.560]  He's going to represent himself.
[52:46.560 --> 52:49.560]  And then the judge enters a plea on his behalf.
[52:49.560 --> 52:50.560]  Okay.
[52:50.560 --> 52:52.560]  And they set it for this other hearing.
[52:52.560 --> 52:56.560]  What is the hearing we had this morning?
[52:56.560 --> 53:00.560]  It was a, you know, settlement conference.
[53:00.560 --> 53:03.560]  So in between that first...
[53:03.560 --> 53:05.560]  Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[53:05.560 --> 53:06.560]  Go ahead.
[53:06.560 --> 53:12.560]  They summoned him to court for a settlement conference?
[53:12.560 --> 53:13.560]  Yes.
[53:13.560 --> 53:15.560]  This was his second court date.
[53:15.560 --> 53:17.560]  The first one was the initial, you know, the...
[53:17.560 --> 53:20.560]  You need to look at the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[53:20.560 --> 53:27.560]  There will be a section in there that authorizes the court to issue a summons.
[53:27.560 --> 53:32.560]  I was recently summoned to court and the judge wanted to know if I had an attorney.
[53:32.560 --> 53:35.560]  I said, well, that's interesting, Your Honor.
[53:35.560 --> 53:41.560]  I have a copy of 28.01 Code of Criminal Procedure here, and it lists all those things you can
[53:41.560 --> 53:45.560]  order me to come to court for to see if I have an attorney.
[53:45.560 --> 53:46.560]  He's not one of them.
[53:46.560 --> 53:52.560]  And if the attorney, the prosecutor wants to have a meeting with you to play, let's
[53:52.560 --> 53:59.560]  make a deal, he can call you and ask you to come talk to him when it's convenient.
[53:59.560 --> 54:05.560]  But for a judge to summon you to court under threat of arrest to meet with the prosecuting
[54:05.560 --> 54:08.560]  attorney, you should charge the judge with abusive process.
[54:08.560 --> 54:09.560]  Okay.
[54:09.560 --> 54:11.560]  Well, it gets even worse.
[54:11.560 --> 54:14.560]  So let me pick up where I left off here.
[54:14.560 --> 54:21.560]  So he goes to the court today, and prior to going to the court, he had filed a motion
[54:21.560 --> 54:22.560]  to dismiss.
[54:22.560 --> 54:28.560]  He faxed one to the judge who's listed on the case, and he faxed it to the district
[54:28.560 --> 54:29.560]  attorney.
[54:29.560 --> 54:31.560]  Now, he didn't go down there and file it.
[54:31.560 --> 54:32.560]  That was the mistake.
[54:32.560 --> 54:35.560]  But nevertheless, so he has a motion to dismiss with today's date on it.
[54:35.560 --> 54:43.560]  So at this county courthouse here in Madison, Wisconsin, they basically said, well, wait
[54:43.560 --> 54:48.560]  here, sign in, and then the district attorney talked to him.
[54:48.560 --> 54:49.560]  And we went in a little room.
[54:49.560 --> 54:54.560]  I was there with him because I drove him, and he wanted me there just as a roommate,
[54:54.560 --> 54:55.560]  a friend.
[54:55.560 --> 55:00.560]  So we're sitting in a little conference room, and the district attorney starts saying, well,
[55:00.560 --> 55:03.560]  she gives him a sheet and says, well, this is the fines and everything.
[55:03.560 --> 55:05.560]  They're basically working on the plea here.
[55:05.560 --> 55:11.560]  So then he begins to ask some questions, and I opened my big mouth and asked a question.
[55:11.560 --> 55:14.560]  I said, who are all these witnesses on this complaint?
[55:14.560 --> 55:16.560]  There's eight witnesses.
[55:16.560 --> 55:17.560]  Eight complainants.
[55:17.560 --> 55:19.560]  And none of them are the officer.
[55:19.560 --> 55:20.560]  So we had a question.
[55:20.560 --> 55:23.560]  Who are all these witnesses on this complaint?
[55:23.560 --> 55:25.560]  The complaint's not signed, by the way.
[55:25.560 --> 55:30.560]  They give them a copy of this complaint with eight witnesses, and it's not even signed.
[55:30.560 --> 55:33.560]  So she goes, oh, I'm not planning on calling all these witnesses.
[55:33.560 --> 55:35.560]  This is just formality.
[55:35.560 --> 55:43.560]  She also mentioned, and I wish we had a recorder, she also mentioned that these fines is something
[55:43.560 --> 55:45.560]  that judges made up.
[55:45.560 --> 55:46.560]  She said that.
[55:46.560 --> 55:48.560]  These fines here, you know, you have a fine here.
[55:48.560 --> 55:50.560]  You have this fine or that fine.
[55:50.560 --> 55:51.560]  This is what the judges made up.
[55:51.560 --> 55:53.560]  She let that slip.
[55:53.560 --> 55:57.560]  So anyways, she's annoyed at me now because we asked these questions.
[55:57.560 --> 56:00.560]  And I said, well, are you planning on taking this to trial?
[56:00.560 --> 56:01.560]  She said, yeah.
[56:01.560 --> 56:05.560]  I said, well, do you really feel you have a good case, knowing that this statement here,
[56:05.560 --> 56:09.560]  the officer signed, the one at the jail said he didn't smell any alcohol, my friend.
[56:09.560 --> 56:11.560]  His speech was fine.
[56:11.560 --> 56:13.560]  He was cooperative.
[56:13.560 --> 56:15.560]  His eyes were fine.
[56:15.560 --> 56:17.560]  This is their written statement.
[56:17.560 --> 56:24.560]  I said, the only witness that signed this statement here is saying, my friend's basically fine.
[56:24.560 --> 56:26.560]  I said, you really think that's a strong case?
[56:26.560 --> 56:30.560]  She at that point got really upset that I, how dare I ask a question.
[56:30.560 --> 56:31.560]  So she opened it.
[56:31.560 --> 56:33.560]  She said, this is counterproductive.
[56:33.560 --> 56:34.560]  We're going to go to trial.
[56:34.560 --> 56:37.560]  And she said, your friend just here said he wants to go to trial.
[56:37.560 --> 56:38.560]  And I corrected her.
[56:38.560 --> 56:40.560]  I said, my friend never said that.
[56:40.560 --> 56:41.560]  And he corrected her.
[56:41.560 --> 56:42.560]  He goes, no, I didn't say that.
[56:42.560 --> 56:44.560]  He said, I'm prepared to go to trial.
[56:44.560 --> 56:46.560]  So anyway, she says, well, we're done here.
[56:46.560 --> 56:50.560]  She opens the door, and we walk out.
[56:50.560 --> 56:55.560]  Well, we go into the court to sit down to see the judge, right?
[56:55.560 --> 56:58.560]  At that point, a bailiff walks past us.
[56:58.560 --> 57:00.560]  We're in the court for a few minutes.
[57:00.560 --> 57:03.560]  The bailiff walks past us, and I motion him to come over.
[57:03.560 --> 57:04.560]  I said, bailiff.
[57:04.560 --> 57:05.560]  And I had a question for him.
[57:05.560 --> 57:08.560]  Hey, how do we get to see the judge here?
[57:08.560 --> 57:15.560]  We have this motion with the judge's name on there, this come to court, this hearing.
[57:15.560 --> 57:16.560]  He's really upset.
[57:16.560 --> 57:19.560]  He has a really bad look on his face.
[57:19.560 --> 57:20.560]  And he blows us off.
[57:20.560 --> 57:22.560]  He was mad.
[57:22.560 --> 57:24.560]  And he said, no, this is going to trial.
[57:24.560 --> 57:25.560]  It's already been set to trial.
[57:25.560 --> 57:27.560]  You're not going to see the judge today.
[57:27.560 --> 57:28.560]  Now it's time to leave.
[57:28.560 --> 57:30.560]  That's what he told us.
[57:30.560 --> 57:33.560]  And he said it in a really mean way.
[57:33.560 --> 57:34.560]  And so we're like, hmm.
[57:34.560 --> 57:35.560]  So we just sat there.
[57:35.560 --> 57:36.560]  I told my friend.
[57:36.560 --> 57:39.560]  I said, hey, just wait here, and we'll talk to the clerk.
[57:39.560 --> 57:43.560]  And we'll go in front of the judge, because we want to find out about this motion, the
[57:43.560 --> 57:48.560]  motion to dismiss that my friend submitted two weeks ago.
[57:48.560 --> 57:51.560]  So anyways, one of the clerks come over.
[57:51.560 --> 57:53.560]  And we ask her.
[57:53.560 --> 57:58.560]  And she said, oh, well, the judge that's going to hear your trial is on a different floor.
[57:58.560 --> 58:00.560]  This is the judge just for the plea bargain.
[58:00.560 --> 58:03.560]  This judge only hears the plea bargain.
[58:03.560 --> 58:04.560]  I hear the music.
[58:04.560 --> 58:07.560]  I don't know.
[58:07.560 --> 58:08.560]  Hmm, that's interesting.
[58:08.560 --> 58:15.560]  A judge just for the purpose of hearing the plea bargain.
[58:15.560 --> 58:16.560]  Are we there?
[58:16.560 --> 58:17.560]  OK.
[58:17.560 --> 58:18.560]  I'm still here.
[58:18.560 --> 58:21.560]  I would definitely like to find out more about this.
[58:21.560 --> 58:25.560]  They've got this plea bargain thing down to a science, it seems like.
[58:25.560 --> 58:31.560]  And when we come back, I'll talk about some information I just got out of California on
[58:31.560 --> 58:37.560]  the kinds of pressures on these judges to produce revenue.
[58:37.560 --> 58:38.560]  It's not about justice.
[58:38.560 --> 58:40.560]  It's all about the money.
[58:40.560 --> 58:43.560]  This is Randy Kelso and Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[58:43.560 --> 58:45.560]  A little video.
[58:45.560 --> 58:47.560]  We're talking to Frank in Wisconsin.
[58:47.560 --> 58:50.560]  And we'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:00:27.560 --> 01:00:32.560]  while Libyan rebels used it to refuel and resupply their forces.
[01:00:32.560 --> 01:00:40.560]  A suicide bomber killed 10 people inside a Shia mosque in Iraq Thursday as nationwide violence left 16 dead,
[01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:46.560]  and Kare Kuk, a car bomb targeting a passing convoy, killed five people, including four policemen.
[01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:51.560]  Also on Thursday, gunmen shot dead Brigadier General Mohammed Allah Shassim
[01:00:51.560 --> 01:00:55.560]  and his car on a busy road in West Baghdad.
[01:00:55.560 --> 01:01:02.560]  Police in Uganda Friday shot and killed a protester upset over the arrest of opposition leader Kisa Basige.
[01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:09.560]  Protests started after images of Basige being beaten, pepper sprayed and dragged away by police were broadcast on television.
[01:01:09.560 --> 01:01:20.560]  Basige runner-up to President Nawari Musvani in the disputed February election has been leading walk-to-work protests over rising fuel and food prices.
[01:01:20.560 --> 01:01:27.560]  Federal prosecutors investigating how Wikileaks obtained classified data are exploring criminal conspiracy charges
[01:01:27.560 --> 01:01:33.560]  under statutes that outlaw the theft of government property and unauthorized access to a computer.
[01:01:33.560 --> 01:01:39.560]  An April 21st letter signed by Neil McBride, U.S. Attorney of the Eastern District of Virginia,
[01:01:39.560 --> 01:01:45.560]  offers a glimpse of the government's thinking into how Wikileaks and its founder Julian Assange obtained the material.
[01:01:45.560 --> 01:01:51.560]  The letter shows an array of charges are being considered in part to avoid First Amendment challenges
[01:01:51.560 --> 01:01:55.560]  that would arise from prosecuting Wikileaks under the Espionage Act.
[01:01:55.560 --> 01:02:03.560]  Attorney Abbey Lowell said, quote, the Justice Department will twist itself like a pretzel to avoid using the Espionage Act.
[01:02:03.560 --> 01:02:08.560]  Assange said Thursday, quote, the Justice Department has decided to attack on many fronts at once
[01:02:08.560 --> 01:02:17.560]  because it is difficult to extradite someone for espionage and most extradition treaties have exemptions for political acts.
[01:02:17.560 --> 01:02:25.560]  Israeli leaders Thursday rejected the Palestinian unity deal between Hamas and Fatah, saying it could destroy prospects for peace
[01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:30.560]  and ruled out negotiations with any Palestinian government that includes Hamas.
[01:02:30.560 --> 01:02:35.560]  Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened his security cabinet to discuss the deal,
[01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:40.560]  as Israeli President Shimon Peres called the Palestinian agreement a grave mistake.
[01:02:40.560 --> 01:02:47.560]  The comments came a day after Hamas and Fatah reached a unity deal in Cairo to end a four-year dispute
[01:02:47.560 --> 01:03:13.560]  between the Fatah administration in the West Bank and the Hamas regime that controls Gaza.
[01:03:17.560 --> 01:03:28.560]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[01:03:28.560 --> 01:03:35.560]  I read his book and he says he cares not for the unsightly.
[01:03:35.560 --> 01:03:44.560]  These warmongers come by that term rightly.
[01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:48.560]  I won't pay for the war with my bike.
[01:03:48.560 --> 01:03:51.560]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:51.560 --> 01:03:53.560]  I won't pay for the war with my bike.
[01:03:53.560 --> 01:03:54.560]  Okay, we're back.
[01:03:54.560 --> 01:03:57.560]  Randy Kelton, Debussy's Eddie Craig with Royal Radio.
[01:03:57.560 --> 01:04:00.560]  We're talking to Frank in Wisconsin.
[01:04:00.560 --> 01:04:08.560]  And you were summoned to court to negotiate with the prosecutor.
[01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:12.560]  I was thought when you were talking about the baby, if you were going to say he threw you out of the court,
[01:04:12.560 --> 01:04:14.560]  that would have been a great sign.
[01:04:14.560 --> 01:04:16.560]  They did.
[01:04:16.560 --> 01:04:17.560]  So the story continues.
[01:04:17.560 --> 01:04:21.560]  So the bailiff comes over and tells us, you guys can't see the judge.
[01:04:21.560 --> 01:04:23.560]  It's been set for trial.
[01:04:23.560 --> 01:04:24.560]  Now get out of here.
[01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:26.560]  And he's real hostile about it.
[01:04:26.560 --> 01:04:27.560]  So we're like, wow, what's up with that?
[01:04:27.560 --> 01:04:29.560]  We wait around a minute.
[01:04:29.560 --> 01:04:30.560]  I tell my friend, hey, don't go anywhere.
[01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:34.560]  He comes back here telling him we're just doing legal research for trial.
[01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:35.560]  And so we wait a minute.
[01:04:35.560 --> 01:04:37.560]  And he saw us.
[01:04:37.560 --> 01:04:38.560]  You know, he got a little uncomfortable.
[01:04:38.560 --> 01:04:40.560]  He went and told the clerk.
[01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:44.560]  She came over and we said, well, look, we got this motion to see the judge.
[01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:46.560]  We have a motion to dismiss.
[01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:49.560]  And we got this order to be here today and to see this judge.
[01:04:49.560 --> 01:04:57.560]  She said, well, this is just the judge for the plea bargain, the judge for trials down on the other floor.
[01:04:57.560 --> 01:04:58.560]  And we're like, OK, what's the room?
[01:04:58.560 --> 01:04:59.560]  She tells us the room.
[01:04:59.560 --> 01:05:02.560]  We stand up to leave.
[01:05:02.560 --> 01:05:04.560]  And so we're out in the hallway.
[01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:05.560]  We go down to that other floor.
[01:05:05.560 --> 01:05:08.560]  And we're standing there for a minute by the water fountain.
[01:05:08.560 --> 01:05:09.560]  And the bailiff walks by.
[01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:11.560]  And he's got a piece of paper in his hand.
[01:05:11.560 --> 01:05:13.560]  We're like, hey, that's the bailiff just told us.
[01:05:13.560 --> 01:05:14.560]  We can't see the judge.
[01:05:14.560 --> 01:05:15.560]  Where is he going?
[01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:16.560]  So we follow him.
[01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:18.560]  He goes into that courtroom.
[01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:19.560]  The doors are locked.
[01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:20.560]  Right?
[01:05:20.560 --> 01:05:21.560]  So he goes in there and the doors are locked.
[01:05:21.560 --> 01:05:22.560]  We can't.
[01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:23.560]  And he's up there talking to the judge.
[01:05:23.560 --> 01:05:26.560]  It's only the judge and two other people in that courtroom.
[01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:28.560]  And so we're kind of knocking on the door.
[01:05:28.560 --> 01:05:29.560]  He comes over.
[01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:30.560]  He opens the door.
[01:05:30.560 --> 01:05:37.560]  And that clerk says, you know, hey, we're here to, you know, we tell them we're here to see the judge.
[01:05:37.560 --> 01:05:39.560]  You know, we got a motion to dismiss.
[01:05:39.560 --> 01:05:50.560]  And so what happened here is the clerk in that court tells my friend, yeah, you can go ahead and go up there and see the judge.
[01:05:50.560 --> 01:05:51.560]  OK?
[01:05:51.560 --> 01:05:56.560]  Now, by the way, before he said that, the bailiff stopped him again.
[01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:04.560]  He tried to block him from going up to see this judge, upon which the clerk in that court said, no, he can come and see the judge.
[01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:05.560]  You can step forward.
[01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:07.560]  So my friend goes past the bailiff.
[01:06:07.560 --> 01:06:10.560]  And as soon as that happens, the bailiff turns to me.
[01:06:10.560 --> 01:06:11.560]  He's very hostile at this point.
[01:06:11.560 --> 01:06:14.560]  And he says, what's your name?
[01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:17.560]  And I said, so why do you want to know my name?
[01:06:17.560 --> 01:06:23.560]  He said, well, you were just talking to the DA down there and you were being disorderly.
[01:06:23.560 --> 01:06:24.560]  I said, what?
[01:06:24.560 --> 01:06:26.560]  I said, no, I wasn't.
[01:06:26.560 --> 01:06:29.560]  And he said, well, give me your ID.
[01:06:29.560 --> 01:06:31.560]  I said, I'm not going to give you my ID.
[01:06:31.560 --> 01:06:35.560]  And I sat down and I tried to listen to what was going on with my friend, and he's blocking me.
[01:06:35.560 --> 01:06:37.560]  And he's asking for my ID.
[01:06:37.560 --> 01:06:39.560]  I said, get out of my way.
[01:06:39.560 --> 01:06:40.560]  I need to hear this.
[01:06:40.560 --> 01:06:41.560]  So I brushed him aside.
[01:06:41.560 --> 01:06:43.560]  And then he starts calling on the radio.
[01:06:43.560 --> 01:06:45.560]  I need help up here.
[01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:47.560]  We've got a guy failing to ID.
[01:06:47.560 --> 01:06:57.560]  And Wisconsin doesn't have a law like Indiana and Ohio where you have to show ID, right, unless you're in the process of a crime.
[01:06:57.560 --> 01:07:09.560]  So I didn't know at this point that the DA went to tell him that I was, what did they say?
[01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:11.560]  Disruptive?
[01:07:11.560 --> 01:07:14.560]  Disorderly conduct, disruptive.
[01:07:14.560 --> 01:07:16.560]  Because I asked her a question.
[01:07:16.560 --> 01:07:17.560]  I wasn't.
[01:07:17.560 --> 01:07:18.560]  I was polite.
[01:07:18.560 --> 01:07:19.560]  I was talking nice.
[01:07:19.560 --> 01:07:20.560]  And we were having a conversation.
[01:07:20.560 --> 01:07:22.560]  She didn't like any of the questions.
[01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:24.560]  So she opened the door and said, this is done.
[01:07:24.560 --> 01:07:25.560]  This is counterproductive.
[01:07:25.560 --> 01:07:27.560]  We're going to go to trial.
[01:07:27.560 --> 01:07:30.560]  And at that point, we both got up and said goodbye to her.
[01:07:30.560 --> 01:07:31.560]  It was nice meeting you.
[01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:33.560]  We were cordial and walked out.
[01:07:33.560 --> 01:07:37.560]  Well, she apparently went to that bailiff and said, this guy's being disorderly, da-da-da.
[01:07:37.560 --> 01:07:38.560]  That's why he was hostile.
[01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:41.560]  So he blocked us.
[01:07:41.560 --> 01:07:46.560]  So anyway, then he calls for his buddies, four of them come and surround me.
[01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:48.560]  My friend's up there talking to the judge.
[01:07:48.560 --> 01:07:49.560]  The judge is looking at his motion.
[01:07:49.560 --> 01:07:54.560]  He said, wow, this is a very impressive string of court citations here, this motion.
[01:07:54.560 --> 01:07:56.560]  And so he's talking to him.
[01:07:56.560 --> 01:07:58.560]  And he's giving him his legal advice.
[01:07:58.560 --> 01:08:02.560]  I really want to represent myself if I were you, da-da-da-da-da, this and that.
[01:08:02.560 --> 01:08:04.560]  So anyway, he's done talking to the judge.
[01:08:04.560 --> 01:08:06.560]  He comes back over.
[01:08:06.560 --> 01:08:08.560]  And then at that point, I motioned to the judge.
[01:08:08.560 --> 01:08:11.560]  I said, permission to approach.
[01:08:11.560 --> 01:08:13.560]  And he said, yes, approach.
[01:08:13.560 --> 01:08:15.560]  I started walking to the judge.
[01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:16.560]  And the bailiff blocks me again.
[01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.560]  He said, Your Honor, I need to ID this guy.
[01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.560]  So the judge said, OK, go ahead.
[01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:23.560]  And I said, why do you need to ID me?
[01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:26.560]  I said, am I in the process of committing a crime?
[01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:28.560]  He said, yes, you were disorderly at that time.
[01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.560]  And this is the time he let it out, basically.
[01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.560]  He said, yeah.
[01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:34.560]  And I said, OK, so I just gave him the ID.
[01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:35.560]  Boom.
[01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.560]  Anyway, so they basically kicked us out of there.
[01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.560]  And they said, you can leave now.
[01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:42.560]  And I said, well, we're not done here.
[01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:46.560]  We still have some criminal complaints to file.
[01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:47.560]  And then he started talking.
[01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.560]  I said, no, I said, thank you for your help.
[01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.560]  We're done.
[01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:53.560]  I started walking away, and they were talking behind our back,
[01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.560]  basically trying to get us out of court, which we didn't leave.
[01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.560]  We went down there to the clerk's office,
[01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.560]  and we were asking how to file different paperwork and stuff.
[01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.560]  But that's basically what happened today.
[01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.560]  And the original complaint, the copy of the complaint
[01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:11.560]  that he had, the criminal complaint, is not signed.
[01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.560]  None of this paperwork is signed.
[01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.560]  And the bailiff was restricting us from seeing the judge
[01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.560]  every time.
[01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:26.560]  I would file a complaint against the prosecuting attorney
[01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:30.560]  for making a false report to a police officer.
[01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.560]  I was already going down that road.
[01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:34.560]  Good.
[01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:36.560]  But I wanted to do it on Monday.
[01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.560]  I wanted to get my bearings.
[01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.560]  Make sure you do a bar grievance.
[01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:42.560]  OK.
[01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:44.560]  And write up a tort letter.
[01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.560]  This is a municipality?
[01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:48.560]  This is Madison?
[01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:51.560]  Municipality.
[01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:52.560]  Circuit court.
[01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:55.560]  State of Wisconsin circuit court.
[01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.560]  So this is not a city court?
[01:09:58.560 --> 01:09:59.560]  No.
[01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.560]  This is the capital, Madison.
[01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:08.560]  Then prepare a tort letter and send it to the county commissioner's court.
[01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:10.560]  The county commissioner's court.
[01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.560]  What would be in the tort letter?
[01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:19.560]  That you were denied in your white to a public court.
[01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:24.560]  And that the bailiff committed aggravated assault against you
[01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:26.560]  by assaulting you.
[01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:28.560]  He did grab my arm.
[01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:34.560]  Committing simple assault whilst displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.560]  You know, that's what I told the judge, Randy,
[01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:38.560]  when I said permission to approach.
[01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.560]  And I started approaching and he grabbed my arm and he blocked me.
[01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.560]  And he said, I need to ID this guy.
[01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:43.560]  I said, what, am I committing a crime?
[01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:44.560]  He said, yeah.
[01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:45.560]  I said, OK, fine.
[01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:46.560]  Here's the ID.
[01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.560]  Wait, he grabbed your arm?
[01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:49.560]  Yeah, he grabbed my arm.
[01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:53.560]  And so that's what I told the judge from behind the thing.
[01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.560]  I said, Your Honor, this bailiff is making bail threats to me
[01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:58.560]  and he's denying us access to that.
[01:10:58.560 --> 01:10:59.560]  And the judge just refuted that.
[01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.560]  He's like, oh, he's not making threats, whatever.
[01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:05.560]  So I feel like calling the judge as a witness when I sue this guy.
[01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:07.560]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.560]  And the judge said, I said, is this a crime that I'm not showing an ID?
[01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:11.560]  He goes, I can't give you legal advice.
[01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:13.560]  I was thinking, this is your courtroom.
[01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.560]  I'm just asking if I committed a crime, obviously.
[01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.560]  So he let me go.
[01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:18.560]  Why would he let me go if I committed a crime?
[01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:19.560]  They're wrong either way.
[01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:21.560]  That's my logic.
[01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.560]  This is an opportunity because it's a minor thing.
[01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:26.560]  Right.
[01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:30.560]  If you start a big stink over a minor thing.
[01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:31.560]  I'm doing it.
[01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:33.560]  I'm standing up like you because we have to.
[01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:34.560]  We have to.
[01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.560]  There won't be major things.
[01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.560]  So that's why we do it over something minor.
[01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:46.560]  Take a complaint to the prosecuting attorney.
[01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.560]  You have county attorneys and district attorneys in Wisconsin?
[01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:51.560]  I'm not sure.
[01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:54.560]  I just moved here from Illinois.
[01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:00.560]  Find the highest level court in the district and get that prosecutor,
[01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.560]  whoever prosecutes felonies,
[01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:09.560]  and file a criminal complaint against this officer with that prosecutor
[01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:14.560]  for offensive touching while displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.560]  They're obviously not going to take it.
[01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.560]  They're not going to do anything, and you don't care.
[01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:22.560]  Because if you go down and bushwhack the highest level judge you can find
[01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:27.560]  and ask him to take criminal charges against the prosecuting attorney
[01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.560]  for misfeasance in office, for failing to perform his duty,
[01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.560]  and denying you the protection of the courts,
[01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.560]  well, this judge is not going to take your complaint either.
[01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:42.560]  Then you make up a complaint against this judge
[01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:46.560]  for shielding the prosecutor from prosecution
[01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:52.560]  and send it to the prosecutor's office addressed to the grand jury.
[01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:56.560]  Now the prosecutor is in a spot.
[01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:58.560]  He's got a criminal complaint against a judge
[01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:03.560]  accusing the judge of shielding himself from prosecution.
[01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:05.560]  So how does he interfere?
[01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:12.560]  If he doesn't give that to the grand jury, that is obstruction big time.
[01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.560]  So he's going to know you set him up,
[01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:20.560]  and they're all going to be mad at this bailiff for creating the problem.
[01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.560]  So the bailiff was definitely shielding us from getting in front of the judge.
[01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:30.560]  He did it three times, and I think he's in cahoots with that district attorney.
[01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.560]  He must like her, right?
[01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.560]  I don't know what's going on, but I just moved here,
[01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:37.560]  and I'm in the middle of picking a fight with my creditors
[01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:39.560]  after talking to Mike Maris,
[01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.560]  and so I'm already in the process of rolling up my sleeves
[01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:44.560]  to fight some of these people, and this happened.
[01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:49.560]  I was very offended because I was accused of a crime when I did not.
[01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:50.560]  I was cordial.
[01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.560]  We were just having a good faith conference to lay our cards on the table
[01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.560]  and see if we could avoid going to trial.
[01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:02.560]  So anyway, quick question, though. You're talking about filing a criminal complaint
[01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:05.560]  against a bailiff for refusing to allow us to see the judge.
[01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:07.560]  That's on my friend's side, correct?
[01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:10.560]  No, aggravated assault.
[01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:15.560]  Well, besides aggravated assault, he basically tried to stop us from getting access to the judge,
[01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.560]  but that's for my friend's case because I didn't really have any business to see the judge.
[01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:24.560]  I was just there driving him to court and being there as his friend and roommate.
[01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:28.560]  He interfered with your access to a public court.
[01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:38.560]  We have a statute here in Texas that if a person denies you access to a public building
[01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:47.560]  or interrupts your access to a public building by words or acts,
[01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:51.560]  that's a terroristic threat.
[01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.560]  A district judge ran into the courtroom while I was talking to the bailiff
[01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:59.560]  and told me, Mr. Tilton, you're committing a disturbance.
[01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:02.560]  You get out of this courthouse or I'll have you arrested.
[01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:07.560]  What he didn't know is the high sheriff of the county had sent me to this bailiff
[01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.560]  to file criminal charges against the district attorney,
[01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:15.560]  and the judge came in and threatened to arrest me if I didn't leave the courthouse.
[01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:19.560]  So I charged him with making a terroristic threat.
[01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.560]  When he said that, I said, oh, geez, I'm sorry, judge,
[01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:25.560]  and I pulled this digital recorder out of my pocket.
[01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.560]  I said, I didn't have this turned on.
[01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:28.560]  Click!
[01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.560]  I stuck it right in his face.
[01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.560]  Would you say that again?
[01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.560]  And he got his look on his face and said,
[01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.560]  that darn district attorney, he didn't tell me everything.
[01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.560]  You were right.
[01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:46.560]  But this is what you can do, and this is what you should do,
[01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:49.560]  and the more minor the better.
[01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:52.560]  I ran that judge through the wringer over that.
[01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:54.560]  He did something smart-mouthed.
[01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:55.560]  He did something arrogant.
[01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.560]  He did something careless.
[01:15:57.560 --> 01:15:59.560]  This bailiff did something careless.
[01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:04.560]  You need to clobber him big time, and this is going to happen to him.
[01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.560]  A lot of people are going to be mad at him.
[01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:08.560]  She obviously said that I committed a crime.
[01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.560]  My question is, should I file a criminal complaint against her for making false accusations?
[01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.560]  Absolutely.
[01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:17.560]  You want to say, I didn't do that?
[01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:20.560]  Tell it to the judge.
[01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:24.560]  Bailiff said you did, and you know the bailiff wouldn't lie about that.
[01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.560]  And then everybody's going to be mad at this bailiff.
[01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:32.560]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:36.560]  This stuff can really be fun.
[01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.560]  Once you get him doing the chicken dance, you'll love it.
[01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.560]  You'll want to play music to the rhythm.
[01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.560]  We'll make room for other callers, Randy. Thank you.
[01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.560]  Thank you.
[01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.560]  This is Randy Carson, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.560]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:56.560]  We'll see you, Jerry, Boris, and Jason.
[01:16:56.560 --> 01:17:00.560]  We'll take you on the other side.
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[01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.560]  If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off,
[01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:22.560]  you have probably been cheated out of thousands, but there is a remedy.
[01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:30.560]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140
[01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.560]  to find out how to use the consumer protection laws to recover what the lenders have stolen
[01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:37.560]  through fraud and deception.
[01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:41.560]  We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud
[01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:43.560]  and put the lenders on the dime.
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[01:18:55.560 --> 01:19:00.560]  to collect the information you need to stop the money changers in their tracks.
[01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:35.560]  Hi, folks, we are back.
[01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:37.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.560]  Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens.
[01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:42.560]  Debra does have the night off.
[01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:48.560]  This is our four-hour marathon night, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.560]  We're getting several callers up on the board here,
[01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:55.560]  and it looks like we are due to go to Jerry in Texas.
[01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:57.560]  Evening, Jerry, what can we do for you?
[01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:01.560]  Oh, I've got a little story to tell you here and see what y'all think about it.
[01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.560]  You ever heard of a smart meter?
[01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:05.560]  Yes, sir.
[01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:09.560]  Okay, a fella come walking up to my driveway the other day,
[01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:13.560]  and since I live in the country, my old dog is having a fit,
[01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.560]  and he kind of didn't know which way to go.
[01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:20.560]  Walked up to my doorstep, and I run the dog off.
[01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:25.560]  He informed me that he was here to install a smart meter, and I said,
[01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:28.560]  uh-uh, I don't want one of them things.
[01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.560]  I've heard all kinds of horror stories about them,
[01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:37.560]  and he proceeded to tell me, well, they'll just cut your electricity off.
[01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:40.560]  Well, I tell him, if you try to install that thing here, buddy,
[01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:42.560]  I'm going to call the sheriff on you,
[01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:46.560]  and furthermore, don't show up out here again unless you've got a court order.
[01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:50.560]  Now, what kind of trouble am I going to get into?
[01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:53.560]  Well, you're not, and if they interrupt your service
[01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:55.560]  because you won't let them install a smart meter,
[01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.560]  then you have a suit against the electric company.
[01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:00.560]  Well, go ahead.
[01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:04.560]  Because Texas Utility Commission's laws and regulations are very clear
[01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:06.560]  on what they can and cannot do,
[01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:09.560]  and shutting off service because you will not allow the installation
[01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:13.560]  of a smart meter is not one of them.
[01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:17.560]  Okay, well, I got on the Internet and downloaded a little poem that says,
[01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:23.560]  do not install a smart meter with a big round red O with a slash across it.
[01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:25.560]  Well, I stuck that up out there.
[01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:31.560]  Plus, I went and got me a chain, made me a little O that fit right around that meter.
[01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:35.560]  Then I installed some other chains that went around that highline pole,
[01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.560]  and then I put a lock on that sucker.
[01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.560]  Now, that can get you in trouble.
[01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:41.560]  Why?
[01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:43.560]  Because the pole and the meter belong to the electric company.
[01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.560]  Uh-uh, I bought the pole.
[01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.560]  The meter belongs to them.
[01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:50.560]  The pole and the meter base belongs to me.
[01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:52.560]  Okay.
[01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:54.560]  Well, if you got it around the meter base,
[01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.560]  then they got a problem because they have to replace the meter base
[01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:57.560]  to replace the meter.
[01:21:57.560 --> 01:21:59.560]  That's right.
[01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:01.560]  I told him.
[01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:02.560]  Wait a minute.
[01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:08.560]  He don't have a problem as long as that doesn't interfere with them.
[01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:09.560]  Okay.
[01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:11.560]  When they come out of there and it's locked,
[01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.560]  all they have to do is talk to him.
[01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.560]  He won't get any trouble with that.
[01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:17.560]  He told me, he said,
[01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:20.560]  well, you know we got the right to come on your property and read that meter.
[01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:21.560]  I said, yes, sir, brother.
[01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:23.560]  I don't have a bit of a problem with that.
[01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:26.560]  What I have a problem with is you putting that thing in there
[01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:30.560]  because they send out, I did a little research on it,
[01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:37.560]  and it says they broadcast 25 times more, what is it?
[01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:41.560]  I got a good solution for that.
[01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:46.560]  Just put a milk bucket over it and it ain't broadcasting squat.
[01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.560]  Well, the problem with them is they're very problematic.
[01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:54.560]  There's a major lawsuit against TXU in Texas for the use of those meters.
[01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:59.560]  The first month after they went in in several locations over in Nacogdoches County,
[01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:06.560]  one guy who had been averaging $100 a month electric bill for several years
[01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.560]  the month after they installed the smart meter, his bill was $11,000.
[01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:18.560]  The next guy that was three miles down the road from him, his bill was $16,000.
[01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:23.560]  My bill went from $380 to $4,000.
[01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:27.560]  So, yeah, I wouldn't put a smart meter in anywhere either.
[01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.560]  Well, they're installing what they're doing here.
[01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:33.560]  I just was lucky enough I was at home.
[01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.560]  They're going around and just sticking them in.
[01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:39.560]  I think I'm the only fellow in the neighborhood that don't have one.
[01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:45.560]  And they've got a transmitter down the road here that receives a signal from these suckers.
[01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.560]  They transmit 24-7.
[01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:50.560]  You've got to pay for the electricity.
[01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:55.560]  Plus, you've got to pay anywhere from $250 to $500 for that thing.
[01:23:55.560 --> 01:24:00.560]  And they can turn your electricity off if they want to.
[01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:07.560]  Plus, one of the main things they're going to do is they're going to see when you're using electricity,
[01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:12.560]  when you're using it at the peak time, they're going to charge you more for it.
[01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:16.560]  That's the little research that I've done so far.
[01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:20.560]  And this little deal about putting a chain around a meter, I got it off the Internet.
[01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:24.560]  I fell out there in California onto an apartment complex,
[01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:31.560]  and he did it for 70 of his residents in the apartment complex, no problem.
[01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:37.560]  So it wasn't original with me. I wish it was, but it wasn't.
[01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:40.560]  That's all right as long as it works.
[01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:48.560]  Well, I just kind of wanted to get on here so people could be aware of what they were fixing to shove down your throat.
[01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:59.560]  And also on the California website, it said at least 15 percent of the people absolutely have to leave their house.
[01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.560]  They cannot stand this stuff.
[01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:07.560]  It's kind of like the electronic equipment they have to run rats out of your house.
[01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.560]  Yeah, the ultrasonic frequency modules.
[01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:13.560]  And 15 percent of people can't stand it.
[01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:19.560]  They just have to get away from it, move completely out of their house.
[01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:23.560]  So it's just a bad thing from what I've read.
[01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:25.560]  That's all I had.
[01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:31.560]  By the way, we're coming down Sunday to your meeting.
[01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:35.560]  Do you all accept silver, and how much does it take?
[01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:42.560]  Yes, sir. If you come and do it in silver, then it's a half an ounce if you got it.
[01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.560]  All right. Well, we'll see you Sunday.
[01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:51.560]  When we got everything, we went to Johnson County today, Randy, and pulled everything.
[01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:53.560]  I was going to ask how that was going.
[01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:54.560]  Well.
[01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:56.560]  Did you tell them I said hi?
[01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:03.560]  I started to, but I didn't want to make any waves yet until we dropped the bombs.
[01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:09.560]  But we're going to bring everything we got in that file and let you all look it over down there.
[01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:15.560]  Because whenever I drop this bomb, I want to make sure that sucker zeroed in on target.
[01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:19.560]  I don't want to make no mistakes, because I never have gone this far before.
[01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:24.560]  I fight them all the time, but usually what I do is just nip it in the bud.
[01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:29.560]  But I never have gone this route, so when I do it, I want to do it right.
[01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:40.560]  One thing to do in Johnson County is make your first complaint against a lower-level judge for something minor
[01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:44.560]  and send it to the prosecuting attorney.
[01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:46.560]  Now, that doesn't happen often.
[01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.560]  Citizens don't often send them verified criminal affidavits.
[01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:54.560]  He will absolutely recognize the routine.
[01:26:54.560 --> 01:27:03.560]  Well, he sent this bill of particulars to the DA, but he had some auxiliary prosecutor there.
[01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:11.560]  We didn't even know there was a prosecutor there until it stated in the court records that such a prosecutor was there.
[01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:19.560]  I never said anything for us to even know it was a prosecutor.
[01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:23.560]  Well, once you start the routine on them, they'll know where you're going.
[01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:25.560]  Yeah.
[01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:27.560]  They won't like it.
[01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:30.560]  Well, from what we've—there's got to have been some talk there,
[01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:36.560]  because why else would that deputy ask him if he knew Randy Kelton?
[01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:40.560]  They knew they had to know what we filed in there.
[01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:46.560]  And by all those attorneys coming in there like they did going to a show,
[01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:50.560]  they thought something was up because of what we filed in there.
[01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.560]  And I guess they were right. It just ain't happened yet.
[01:27:54.560 --> 01:28:01.560]  They might have thought I was going to be there, and they'd get to see me call another district judge.
[01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:06.560]  Well, we're going to bring everything that's in the record.
[01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:11.560]  Like I said, we went by again today to make sure they had stuck anything in there.
[01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:16.560]  And we found a couple of things about the bond, and we'll discuss all that when we come down there.
[01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:21.560]  Get off here and let somebody else get on. Appreciate you.
[01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.560]  All right, Jerry. Thanks for calling in.
[01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:25.560]  Okay.
[01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:30.560]  All right. Okay. Next in line, we have Boris in Texas.
[01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.560]  Boris, how can we help you?
[01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:37.560]  Well, okay. When I talked to the screener, I was going to ask one question,
[01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:39.560]  but I think I Googled the answer for that.
[01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:43.560]  Can I ask about something else like property taxes?
[01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.560]  Sure. Ask whatever you got on your mind.
[01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:51.560]  Okay. Now, I called in one time asking about the whole collection procedure
[01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:56.560]  and whether that was honest or crooked.
[01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:01.560]  And Deborah mentioned to someone that she was going to try to get on the show
[01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:09.560]  who really knows about the collection procedure of property taxes and the court procedures of that.
[01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:14.560]  And I was just, I was wondering if, you know, if y'all had figured out who that was
[01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:22.560]  and maybe if you could point me in the right direction as to who, you know, specializes in that kind of thing.
[01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.560]  Well, I don't know anyone in particular that specializes in it,
[01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:28.560]  and I'm not sure I know who it was that she had in mind.
[01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:30.560]  Randy, do you have any idea?
[01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.560]  No, I don't. We can sure ask her.
[01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:39.560]  We'll try to find out. She may come on later on, and if she does, call back in.
[01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.560]  We'll address it with her then.
[01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:43.560]  Yes.
[01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.560]  Do you have any other questions?
[01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:49.560]  Oh, that was the main thing for now.
[01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:52.560]  Okay. All right, Morris. Thanks.
[01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:53.560]  You bet. Thank you.
[01:29:53.560 --> 01:30:05.560]  Okay, folks. Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
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[01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.560]  Watching TV and doing homework seem like harmless activities,
[01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:22.560]  but they have one deadly behavior in common, sitting.
[01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:26.560]  Researchers evaluated the daily sitting habits of 17,000 people,
[01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.560]  aged 18 through 90, for 12 years.
[01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:31.560]  They found that the longer participants sat,
[01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:34.560]  the greater their risk of cardiovascular disease and death.
[01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:40.560]  In fact, prolonged sitters of all ages were over 50% more likely to experience a heart attack.
[01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.560]  This risk was independent of their smoking status, alcohol consumption,
[01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:46.560]  and even physical exercise.
[01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:50.560]  But there's good news for students, book lovers, and others who sit for work or pleasure.
[01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:55.560]  Getting up and moving around periodically seems to offset this sedentary syndrome.
[01:31:55.560 --> 01:32:15.560]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:30.560]  All right, folks.
[01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:31.560]  We are back.
[01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:35.560]  Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens.
[01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:36.560]  Debra does have the night off.
[01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.560]  It is our four-hour marathon night.
[01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:41.560]  We do have some callers on the board.
[01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.560]  For those of you who have any issues, 512-646-1984.
[01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:49.560]  We are on until 12 tonight, so please give us a call.
[01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:52.560]  Right now, let's go to Jason in Texas.
[01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:54.560]  Jason, what can we do for you?
[01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:55.560]  Hey, Randy and Eddie.
[01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:59.560]  Debra, if you're listening, I hope you're enjoying your night off.
[01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.560]  I was calling in reference to 38.02 failure to identify.
[01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:10.560]  I recently got wrapped up for that, and I was going to give you the short of it.
[01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:17.560]  What ended up happening is my girlfriend has assigned parking at her apartment complex,
[01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:22.560]  and her neighbor's guest had parked in her spot.
[01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:25.560]  So when she went to go ask the guest to move the car,
[01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:28.560]  the guest went out of her way to back up a whole lot further than necessary
[01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:31.560]  and hit my girlfriend's car.
[01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:36.560]  She ended up going a little bit further down the parking lot and parking and coming back.
[01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.560]  As she was going back to the apartment she was visiting,
[01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:45.560]  she was cussing at my girlfriend and telling her off and all this stuff.
[01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:46.560]  I wasn't there.
[01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:47.560]  I didn't witness it.
[01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:51.560]  But of course, I get this frantic phone call, and so I head over there.
[01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:53.560]  When I get there, everybody's inside the apartments,
[01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:57.560]  and so I start looking at my girlfriend's car for damage and all that.
[01:33:57.560 --> 01:33:59.560]  My girlfriend comes out and says,
[01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:00.560]  that guy up there was a witness.
[01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:01.560]  He saw it.
[01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:02.560]  He lives in this building.
[01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:07.560]  So I went to go talk to him, and he told me that from where he was sitting on the second floor
[01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:15.560]  it was completely on purpose because of the distance she had to back up to hit my girlfriend's car.
[01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:18.560]  So I'm sitting there trying to weigh options, and I'm thinking,
[01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:22.560]  okay, am I going to start a war with these neighbors if my girlfriend has to live next to
[01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:24.560]  or how am I going to work this?
[01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.560]  And of course, my girlfriend's frantic and wants to call the police.
[01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:31.560]  So while I'm trying to figure out what we're going to do,
[01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:36.560]  lo and behold, here comes two police officers driving very slowly through the parking lot
[01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.560]  with their windows down.
[01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:42.560]  And so she looks at me and she says, go talk to them.
[01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:47.560]  And just out of an instant reaction of seeing them, I flagged them down.
[01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:53.560]  And I broke rule number one, two, and three of not having a voice recorder on me.
[01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:56.560]  But, you know, spur of the moment deal, I didn't expect them.
[01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:57.560]  We didn't call them.
[01:34:57.560 --> 01:34:59.560]  They were just cruising through the parking lot.
[01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.560]  So I flagged them down and went to go.
[01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:08.560]  I relayed the story to them, you know, very shortly, just the details, told them I wasn't there.
[01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:12.560]  And I asked them to take an accident report from my girlfriend.
[01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:19.560]  And like I say, there was two officers and the passenger officer was the one that was doing all the talking.
[01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:21.560]  And he seemed kind of aggravated that I had stopped him, you know.
[01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:26.560]  So he told me that they don't take accident reports on private property.
[01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:27.560]  So I said, okay.
[01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:30.560]  So I rephrased my question, took a different tact.
[01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:32.560]  And of course, I'm being courteous.
[01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:36.560]  And he comes back with the same answer, but a little bit more aggravated.
[01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:40.560]  So I thought, okay, well, do you take criminal complaints?
[01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.560]  And the officer said, well, what for?
[01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:45.560]  He says, well, you know, there's a witness here.
[01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:51.560]  And it seemed like the, you know, my girlfriend was in the car when that girl backed up into her car.
[01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:53.560]  And she was laying on the horn trying to stop her.
[01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:54.560]  And this girl kept coming.
[01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:59.560]  So he says, you know, it seemed like there was an intent for assault there.
[01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:07.560]  And he says, well, since the assault was related to an accident on private property, we can't take it.
[01:36:07.560 --> 01:36:11.560]  So at that point, I realized I'm not going to get anywhere with these guys.
[01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.560]  So I had a piece of paper in my pocket.
[01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:14.560]  I pulled it out.
[01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:15.560]  And I said, hey, you guys have a pen?
[01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:17.560]  And so that officer hands me a pen.
[01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:19.560]  I said, can I get your names and badge numbers?
[01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:22.560]  And I put the paper on the car on the door to start writing.
[01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.560]  And he says, would you like to talk to my supervisor?
[01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:26.560]  I said, well, sure.
[01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:27.560]  I said, what's his phone number?
[01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:28.560]  So he said, I'll do better.
[01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:31.560]  So he gets on the radio and calls the supervisor to the scene.
[01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:39.560]  And as soon as he finished his radio transmission, he looks at me and very aggressively steps back from my car.
[01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:42.560]  So I step back, and he gets out.
[01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:46.560]  And he comes to me and starts patting me down.
[01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:48.560]  I said, excuse me, sir, what's going on?
[01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:50.560]  He says, I'm going to need some information.
[01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:52.560]  So he pulls out his pad.
[01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:54.560]  And he asks for my girlfriend's information.
[01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:57.560]  She gives it because she was going to give him the report.
[01:36:57.560 --> 01:36:59.560]  And he turns to me.
[01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:00.560]  And he says, what's your name?
[01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:03.560]  And I says, I don't wish to identify myself.
[01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:05.560]  And he says, well, you don't have a choice here.
[01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:06.560]  I need your name.
[01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:08.560]  And I reaffirm my position.
[01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:10.560]  And he said, look, you got it.
[01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:11.560]  You got two options here.
[01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:16.560]  You're going to give me your ID, or you're going to go to jail for failing to give me your ID.
[01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:22.560]  At that point, I said, do you have a copy of the penal code?
[01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:23.560]  And he didn't answer the question.
[01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:25.560]  He said, are you going to give it to me or not?
[01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:26.560]  I said, no.
[01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:30.560]  So he grabs me by my arm, puts me in the back of his car.
[01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:34.560]  So remember, at this point, the supervisor's en route.
[01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:35.560]  So I'm sitting there.
[01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:37.560]  And while I'm in the back of the car, they shut the door on me.
[01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:38.560]  And they go.
[01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:41.560]  And they intimidate my girlfriend into giving my personal information.
[01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:43.560]  So the supervisor gets there.
[01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:45.560]  And she comes to the car.
[01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:47.560]  And then I'm going to open the door.
[01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:50.560]  And she has a worse attitude than the initial officer.
[01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:56.560]  And I told her, I said, I need you to explain to me why I'm sitting in the back of this car.
[01:37:56.560 --> 01:38:02.560]  And her response was that I injected myself into a police investigation and started interfering.
[01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:07.560]  And I reminded her that I was in the back of the car for failure to identify.
[01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:13.560]  And I needed her to give me the probable cause or to relay what crime I was suspected of.
[01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.560]  And she couldn't answer.
[01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:19.560]  So we talked back and forth a little bit more.
[01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:23.560]  And during that time, the same officer came back and asked me if I'd witnessed the accident.
[01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:25.560]  And I told him no again.
[01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:29.560]  And so his response to that was, well, it was all hearsay, I guess.
[01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:31.560]  So I don't know where he's going with that.
[01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:37.560]  But anyways, so the supervisor asked me a couple more questions and keeps demanding that I identify myself, which I didn't.
[01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.560]  And she gets aggravated and pulls me out of the car and tells me to put my hands on the car.
[01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.560]  And she starts doing a second pat down.
[01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:48.560]  And at this point, all the officers, there's about three cars there now.
[01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:50.560]  Two officers per car.
[01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:56.560]  And they're all standing around me as I'm stood up against the trunk of this car.
[01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:01.560]  And I said, can anybody tell me what crime I was suspected of prior to my detention?
[01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:03.560]  And nobody said anything.
[01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.560]  And the supervisor says, do you have ID on me?
[01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:07.560]  I said, yes, ma'am, I do.
[01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:16.560]  So she takes my wallet out of my pocket and pulls my ID out of my wallet and puts me back in the car and goes and runs my ID.
[01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:24.560]  And I called before this show, before I was arrested for having a pistol in my automobile.
[01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:26.560]  They said it was in plain view when it wasn't.
[01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:30.560]  And so she comes back after running my ID and she says, I think I remember you.
[01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:34.560]  She was also the supervisor on that incident.
[01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:39.560]  And so she comes back with a completely different attitude and talks to me real nice.
[01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:46.560]  Because I told them as she was searching me again, I told them that 38.02 and I called it out by name.
[01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:47.560]  I was sitting in the back of that car.
[01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:52.560]  Randy, or Eddie, I remember you gave a show on 38.02.
[01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:55.560]  So it popped into my mind with the number.
[01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:59.560]  And I was telling her, 38.02, failure to identify doesn't apply.
[01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:00.560]  And I stood my ground.
[01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:02.560]  So after she ran my ID, she came back.
[01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:03.560]  And like I said, she was real nice.
[01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:10.560]  But she insisted on insulting my intelligence and telling me that I knew some of the law but just enough to get me in trouble.
[01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:15.560]  After a couple more minutes, they told me that I was free to go.
[01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:21.560]  And I asked the initial officer that detained me to radio to dispatch to let them know that they were letting me go.
[01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:23.560]  And he says, oh, that won't be necessary.
[01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:25.560]  So I repeated my request to the supervisor.
[01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:26.560]  And she complied.
[01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:29.560]  You know, she let dispatch know that they were letting me go.
[01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:37.560]  So I immediately ran upstairs and wrote a narrative and read through 38.02.
[01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:41.560]  And they didn't have probable cause to detain me for anything.
[01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:44.560]  Do you have names?
[01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:45.560]  I've got names.
[01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:46.560]  I've already went down.
[01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:53.560]  And it's kind of funny that things pop into my head right away these days after listening to you guys for a while.
[01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.560]  I went down and put in an information request.
[01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:01.560]  I have the event information, which is what they call a CAD call.
[01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:07.560]  And that consists of every time an officer makes a transmission, they log that as text.
[01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:10.560]  So a radio transmission, they log it as text.
[01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:14.560]  So I've got the event information here.
[01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:17.560]  It just states that I flagged down at what time.
[01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:24.560]  And then about three minutes later, it says, one detained for refusing to give ID.
[01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:31.560]  And there's nothing else in the, it says, you know, secondary information where they ran my information.
[01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:41.560]  And then there's just one note at the end that says, accident, property damage accident report, information exchanged.
[01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:42.560]  And that was it.
[01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:49.560]  So there was nothing in that event information that was probable cause or, you know, suspected me of a crime in any way.
[01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:52.560]  So I've got that information.
[01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:54.560]  Go ahead.
[01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:57.560]  No, I was going to say what you did was extremely smart, folks.
[01:41:57.560 --> 01:41:59.560]  Pay attention to what he said he did.
[01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:09.560]  By having the officer make the call in that he had been released, he got a documented record in the police recordings as to what had transpired.
[01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:18.560]  Now he can do discovery or information requests and get that information for his own use to go after these people for what they did.
[01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:20.560]  That was a very smart move, Jason.
[01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:22.560]  Congrats.
[01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:23.560]  Well, thank you, thank you.
[01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:29.560]  And I've got to attribute that to Mr. Graves because, you know, he's always hammering to make your record.
[01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:34.560]  So I ended up going and getting that information.
[01:42:34.560 --> 01:42:42.560]  And I also got the officers, you know, on this event information, it just has numbers, ID numbers.
[01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:49.560]  So I ended up pulling those and I made a secondary request for the officer's names in regards to those ID numbers.
[01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:55.560]  Turns out one of the officers, the officer, the one that detained me that had the bad attitude, he gave me the wrong badge number.
[01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:57.560]  And it was wrong by several numbers.
[01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:00.560]  So anyways, I have that information.
[01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:12.560]  Also, after looking through the log, it shows that the supervisor was only there for about three minutes when in reality she was there for no less than 10, you know, because they put me in the car and, you know, got me back out.
[01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:13.560]  Good.
[01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:15.560]  You got them on falsifying government records as well.
[01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.560]  Well, and here's what I'm running up against.
[01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:25.560]  I called back and it's kind of funny now because after all the stuff that I've been through down there, the lady in open records knows me pretty well.
[01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:36.560]  And so I asked her, I said, look, there's a discrepancy here between when this officer, when the supervisor, you know, it shows that she was only there for three minutes when she was there for 10.
[01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:38.560]  So we'll continue, I guess.
[01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:39.560]  Yeah.
[01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:40.560]  Hang on just a second, Jason.
[01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:42.560]  We're back on the other side of the break.
[01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:43.560]  All right, folks.
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[01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:35.560]  Okay, 512-646-1984 is the call in number. We are talking to Jason, Danny, Troy, Steve. We see you on the board. Please hang in there. We'll be with you shortly.
[01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:37.560]  Alright, Jason, please go ahead.
[01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:42.560]  Okay, before I get started again, I wanted to clarify a reference I made earlier.
[01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:50.560]  I'll reference Mr. Graves, and if you're not familiar with who that is, he's the one that put out Juris Dictionary.
[01:46:50.560 --> 01:47:01.560]  It does talk about civil cases, but I wanted to stress how important it is to get that program because it will help you clarify things in these kind of situations.
[01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:03.560]  If you don't have it, get it. It's great.
[01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:05.560]  Okay, now back to the story.
[01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:16.560]  I found a discrepancy in this event report because the supervisor was there for ten minutes or longer, and this event information only shows her being there for three minutes.
[01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:23.560]  I called back down to Open Records and I said, hey, I want to dispute this. I don't think it's right.
[01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:30.560]  I asked the lady, do you have GPS coordinates for these officers' units, their cars?
[01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:35.560]  And she says, well, that's something you'd have to get their subpoenaed because of national security, yada, yada.
[01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:38.560]  So that's where I am with this bill to date.
[01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:49.560]  And Randy, I've heard you say a couple of times that if you're going to send a tort letter, first of all, I need to make sure that I'm right by sending a tort letter to the city manager.
[01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:51.560]  Is that right?
[01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:57.560]  Yes, the city manager would be the right one for the tort letter.
[01:47:57.560 --> 01:47:59.560]  Okay, because these were municipal police officers.
[01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:10.560]  Okay, so I've heard you say, and I don't remember verbatim what you said, but on a past show you said something about sending your tort letter in the form of a suit.
[01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.560]  Well, yeah.
[01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:20.560]  What I do is I write the causes of action, just like I was writing a suit.
[01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:29.560]  And I take the, first you put in a statement of cause, how you were harmed.
[01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:35.560]  You say, you put it in the form of that you're prepared to prove this, this, this, and this.
[01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:44.560]  And then you put in a statement of facts that tend to support what you just said you would prove up in court.
[01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:50.560]  And then you put in the causes of action that result from the facts that you just gave.
[01:48:50.560 --> 01:49:01.560]  I do this in a suit because then the court reads the facts of the same story three different times, and it tends to help it sink in better.
[01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:12.560]  But when the city manager gives it to their legal department and they read it, it's going to read like they're reading a suit.
[01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:18.560]  When you threaten to sue them, they're going to look at this and say, well, all he's got to do is change your heading and footing, and he's got it.
[01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:21.560]  So he's not screwing around here.
[01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:24.560]  I see. I see.
[01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:27.560]  And it saves you a lot of work.
[01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:32.560]  You can add to it as you go along, but always remember Dr. Graves.
[01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:36.560]  Think in terms of claims you can make.
[01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:40.560]  Don't just gripe about everything you can gripe about.
[01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:50.560]  Gripe about what affected you in under either a tort, a contort, or a contract violation.
[01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:53.560]  And these guys are under all three.
[01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:56.560]  And you also have pure due process.
[01:49:56.560 --> 01:50:00.560]  Under due process, you do not have to show harm.
[01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:04.560]  A violation of due process is harm per se.
[01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:05.560]  Okay.
[01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:07.560]  And you got that.
[01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:10.560]  Yeah, I've got things listed out.
[01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:15.560]  Okay, so I just need to make it as if they were reading.
[01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.560]  So like you say, whenever they read it, they know I'm serious.
[01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:23.560]  Okay, I'll go back and listen to this archive for sure so I make sure I've got everything.
[01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:35.560]  Also, I have four criminal complaints against each officer being abuse of official capacity, official oppression, aggravated assault, and unlawful restraint.
[01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:37.560]  No, no, no.
[01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:40.560]  There's no statute for unlawful restraint.
[01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:41.560]  It's false imprisonment.
[01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:43.560]  No, there's not one for that.
[01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:45.560]  There's a cause of action for false imprisonment.
[01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:47.560]  Right, there's a cause of action for it.
[01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:48.560]  It's kidnapping.
[01:50:48.560 --> 01:50:50.560]  They didn't move him.
[01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:51.560]  They didn't transport him.
[01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:52.560]  Doesn't matter.
[01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:55.560]  Well, they didn't transport him.
[01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:57.560]  Okay, you got a good point.
[01:50:57.560 --> 01:50:59.560]  I found unlawful restraint.
[01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:03.560]  If you call it, well, yeah, false imprisonment, aggravated assault, kidnapping.
[01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:10.560]  Once they took him and restricted him at his movement, that's kidnapping.
[01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:12.560]  No, that's false imprisonment.
[01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:15.560]  Kidnapping, they have to secret him from the public.
[01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:18.560]  They put him in the police car.
[01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:21.560]  There is no statute for false imprisonment.
[01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:24.560]  No, but there is a tort action for it in Texas.
[01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:28.560]  There is a crime called kidnapping.
[01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:34.560]  The false imprisonment is codified in the penal code as kidnapping.
[01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:40.560]  So when they took him from where he wanted to be, which was standing on the street,
[01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:45.560]  and put him inside that police car, that was kidnapping.
[01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:49.560]  And they did so whilst displaying a deadly weapon.
[01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.560]  That's aggravated.
[01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:55.560]  Okay.
[01:51:55.560 --> 01:52:02.560]  Real quick here, Section 20.02 of the penal code is unlawful restraint.
[01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:06.560]  I don't expect you guys to look that up on the radio, but just kind of a note there.
[01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:08.560]  That's 20.02.
[01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:10.560]  21.02?
[01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:13.560]  20.02, unlawful restraint.
[01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:15.560]  I'll have to look at that.
[01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:19.560]  Yeah, but also too, something that I haven't really looked at yet,
[01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:24.560]  but it just popped into my mind, is that they used city property in excess of X amount of dollars,
[01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:28.560]  which goes to, well, that's abuse of official capacity, right?
[01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:29.560]  Correct.
[01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:33.560]  Anything in excess of $1,500 starts the felony range.
[01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:34.560]  Okay.
[01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:35.560]  And those cruisers run how much?
[01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:38.560]  Oh, 85, 90 grand.
[01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:42.560]  Right, and could I include all three, because all the officers, none of them?
[01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:47.560]  You could include everything down to the pencil he wrote with and the bullets in his gun.
[01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:48.560]  Yeah, okay.
[01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:55.560]  I'll include the pen that I borrowed from him to get his badge and name a badge number.
[01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.560]  But, okay, well, it looks like I'm on the right track.
[01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.560]  I really got to thank you guys for what you do.
[01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.560]  Okay, okay, 2201.
[01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:05.560]  20.
[01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:06.560]  20.01.
[01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:09.560]  20.02, he said, right?
[01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:11.560]  Right.
[01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:14.560]  Okay, someone has my penal code.
[01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:16.560]  I'll look it up on the net.
[01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:22.560]  Okay, but real quick, I guess, if you're doing that, I'd really like to thank you guys for what you do.
[01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:28.560]  And pulling out some simple calculations, you know, I listen to you guys every time you come on air,
[01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:35.560]  and that's eight hours a week, 32 hours a month, 1,792 hours a year.
[01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:37.560]  And that's a lot of dedication.
[01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:41.560]  You guys are really helping people like me out there, and I really, really appreciate it,
[01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:43.560]  which leads to my next question.
[01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:46.560]  I don't like doing things on the Internet with credit cards and all that stuff,
[01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:50.560]  but I'd really like to donate to the show.
[01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:56.560]  And how could I do that, minus putting a credit card number somewhere on a Web site?
[01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:59.560]  You can send it to Deborah via mail,
[01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:02.560]  but you'd have to check to see if there's a mailing address on the Web site,
[01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:03.560]  because I don't know what it is.
[01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:05.560]  Yeah, there is one.
[01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:11.560]  Or you could just send it to Randy's Beer Fund.
[01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:15.560]  I predicted that when I was waiting for it.
[01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:19.560]  Yeah, she has the mailing address on the Web site.
[01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:20.560]  Okay, great.
[01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:22.560]  Once again, I really appreciate it.
[01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:25.560]  And like I said, Deborah, if you're listening, I hope you're enjoying it not at all.
[01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:26.560]  I'll let you all get to somebody else.
[01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:28.560]  I appreciate your time.
[01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:29.560]  All right, Jason, thanks.
[01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:33.560]  I'm tickled this is working for you.
[01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:39.560]  We were talking on the break about, you know, how much, how many more people we're getting
[01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:42.560]  who are not calling in asking, what should I do,
[01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:46.560]  but calling in talking about what they've already done.
[01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:50.560]  And I can't tell you how satisfying that is.
[01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:53.560]  We do this and we spend a lot of time at it.
[01:54:53.560 --> 01:55:02.560]  And it's taken about four years to get this seed to start taking hold.
[01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:07.560]  But now we're getting more and more people calling back who are actually picking up this gauntlet.
[01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:11.560]  And I just can't tell you how pleased I am with you guys.
[01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.560]  Thank you.
[01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:15.560]  And I'm really glad of it, too.
[01:55:15.560 --> 01:55:17.560]  In fact, I got a good report today.
[01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:22.560]  There is an actual attorney that I have been talking to about a traffic ticket he got.
[01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:28.560]  He is actually going through my process on how to combat this step by step.
[01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:31.560]  He went down and filed his affidavit of appearance.
[01:55:31.560 --> 01:55:37.560]  And he paid close attention to what they did and they did exactly what I told him they would
[01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:40.560]  and demanded that he enter a plea.
[01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:44.560]  And he kept insisting over in Bastrop County, nope, not going to be entering a plea.
[01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:48.560]  This is what we're doing because you got nothing in the file.
[01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:52.560]  So, folks, there's an actual attorney that's going to be going through these steps.
[01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:57.560]  And I'm quite sure he'll be more than willing to tell me if I screw up.
[01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:04.560]  So let's pay close attention to how this goes if he'll keep me informed and posted on it.
[01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:05.560]  All right.
[01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:08.560]  Any other thing you got there, Randy, before we go to the next caller?
[01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:09.560]  No, no, let's go.
[01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:10.560]  All right.
[01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:11.560]  Let's go to Danny in Texas.
[01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:14.560]  Danny, what can we do for you?
[01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:17.560]  Well, I got a question about getting a TRO.
[01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:22.560]  But before that, I'd sort of like to contribute something to this last discussion that I've thought
[01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:30.560]  of before, that failure to identify one of the conditions in it is that the person that's
[01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:37.560]  been lawfully arrested, well, I don't think they can make a determination that the arrest
[01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:40.560]  is lawful themselves.
[01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:45.560]  And so, you know, if it gets to the point of threatening that and kind of, oh, well,
[01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:51.560]  wouldn't want to do that, but I don't want to waive any rights, but I wouldn't want to
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:56.560]  commit that offense either, can we bring this to someone who can make a legal determination
[01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:59.560]  that this is a lawful arrest?
[01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:03.560]  That's why they're supposed to take you to a magistrate, not to a jail cell when they
[01:57:03.560 --> 01:57:08.560]  arrest you without a warrant.
[01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:12.560]  That is exactly why they're supposed to do that.
[01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:18.560]  The magistrate is supposed to determine was the arrest lawful, what was the probable cause,
[01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:21.560]  did it comply with law and Constitution?
[01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:26.560]  If it didn't, it was all illegal, let him go, and he's going to be back to see you again,
[01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:32.560]  Officer, I'll bet you.
[01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:37.560]  But anyway, my mind was just to bring up the question out there about it being lawful and
[01:57:37.560 --> 01:57:41.560]  finding someone who can make that determination.
[01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:44.560]  Yeah, the officer cannot make that determination.
[01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:48.560]  He is incompetent to make that determination.
[01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:53.560]  So before giving the information in order to avoid waiving any rights or committing
[01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:59.560]  offense, that's what the issue was.
[01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:01.560]  Don, Danny, you're breaking up really bad.
[01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:05.560]  You're dropping off here.
[01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:07.560]  Okay, look.
[01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:09.560]  Okay, all right, we're fixing to go to break again.
[01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:12.560]  Danny, can you hang on to the other side of the break?
[01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:13.560]  Okay.
[01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:14.560]  All right.
[01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:17.560]  All right, folks, this is our top of the hour break.
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:19.560]  We have two more hours.
[01:58:19.560 --> 01:58:23.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio, Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:23.560 --> 01:58:25.560]  Deborah has the night off.
[01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:30.560]  If you have any issues, you need to call in about 512-646-1984.
[01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.560]  Right now we do have a full call board, but as we get through them, the line will free up,
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