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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.920]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Next.
[00:04.920 --> 00:11.360]  Unknown assailants shot dead Palestinian Jewish anti-apartheid activist Juliano Merkamis in
[00:11.360 --> 00:13.440]  Jenin West Bank Monday.
[00:13.440 --> 00:18.600]  A well-known film and theater actor, Merkamis established the Freedom Theater, a cultural
[00:18.600 --> 00:24.400]  center in the Jenin refugee camp, home to some 16,000 Palestinian refugees.
[00:24.400 --> 00:29.000]  He was shot outside the theater by Masked Gunman.
[00:29.000 --> 00:34.520]  Political commentator Glenn Ford says Barack Obama's Libyan adventure is a continuation
[00:34.520 --> 00:40.760]  of George Bush's foreign policy to reassert U.S. global supremacy while avoiding an Iraq-type
[00:40.760 --> 00:42.000]  quagmire.
[00:42.000 --> 00:47.760]  Referring to Obama's March 28 speech, Ford said, quote, the president's carefully crafted
[00:47.760 --> 00:53.920]  language indicates he hopes to stabilize Libya under indirect U.S. dominion through a kind
[00:53.920 --> 01:00.440]  of protectorate involving various international entities on the Haitian model.
[01:00.440 --> 01:05.400]  Former Obama administration official P.J. Crowley fired after criticizing the military's
[01:05.400 --> 01:11.600]  treatment of WikiLeaks suspect Bradley Manning doubts whether WikiLeaks will ever be prosecuted.
[01:11.600 --> 01:17.880]  A former State Department spokesman said prosecution would be difficult because it is hard to distinguish
[01:17.880 --> 01:23.240]  what WikiLeaks did from what the New York Times did.
[01:23.240 --> 01:28.120]  Protesters seeking the end of Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh's 33-year rule clashed
[01:28.120 --> 01:30.360]  with security forces Monday.
[01:30.360 --> 01:36.560]  In the city of Taiz and Hodeidah, security forces turned bullets and tear gas on protesters,
[01:36.560 --> 01:39.220]  wounding hundreds and killing at least 12.
[01:39.220 --> 01:44.520]  In the capital Sana'a, snipers in civilian dress shot into a crowd of protesters in Change
[01:44.520 --> 01:45.520]  Square.
[01:45.520 --> 01:51.360]  Calls for Saleh's ouster have grown louder following revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia.
[01:51.360 --> 01:55.680]  Iran's parliament speaker rejected a transition plan by the country's largest opposition
[01:55.680 --> 02:01.480]  bloc Sunday, indicating a continued stalemate over how Saleh should hand over power.
[02:01.480 --> 02:07.000]  On the 43rd anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King, most people are still
[02:07.000 --> 02:13.920]  unaware of a Memphis jury's 1999 verdict that Dr. King was assassinated by a conspiracy
[02:13.920 --> 02:16.680]  that included agencies of the U.S. government.
[02:16.680 --> 02:22.480]  Almost 32 years after King's murder at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis in 1968, a court
[02:22.480 --> 02:27.120]  extended the circle of responsibility for the assassination beyond the late state court
[02:27.120 --> 02:29.880]  James Earl Ray to the U.S. government.
[02:29.880 --> 02:34.840]  In the complaint filed by the King family, the Kings were in effect charging U.S. intelligence
[02:34.840 --> 02:40.820]  agencies, particularly the FBI and Army intelligence, with organizing, subcontracting, and covering
[02:40.820 --> 02:42.360]  up the assassination.
[02:42.360 --> 02:47.040]  Barbara Reese, the U.S. correspondent for the Lisbon Daily Publico, who covered the
[02:47.040 --> 02:52.440]  trial said, quote, this is the trial of the century, but who's here?
[02:52.440 --> 03:13.800]  For more details on these stories, visit INNWorldReport.net.
[03:23.320 --> 03:52.320]  Bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do,
[03:52.320 --> 03:53.320]  when they come for you?
[03:53.320 --> 03:54.320]  When you were eight and you had bad traits, we'll go to school and learn the golden rules.
[03:54.320 --> 03:55.320]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:55.320 --> 03:56.320]  It should get hot and you must get cool.
[03:56.320 --> 03:57.320]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, when they come for you?
[03:57.320 --> 03:58.320]  All right, folks, good evening.
[03:58.320 --> 03:59.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[03:59.320 --> 04:00.320]  This is Eddie Craig, Debra Teehwin, Randy Kelton.
[04:00.320 --> 04:01.320]  Thank you for joining us.
[04:01.320 --> 04:02.320]  It is April 4th, 2011.
[04:02.320 --> 04:03.320]  And tonight I'm going to make a couple announcements.
[04:03.320 --> 04:04.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:04.320 --> 04:05.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:05.320 --> 04:06.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:06.320 --> 04:07.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:07.320 --> 04:26.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:26.320 --> 04:51.320]  First, I want to thank the U.S. Department of Justice.
[04:51.320 --> 04:57.320]  And I do believe that's going to be our last one on Saturday.
[04:57.320 --> 05:04.320]  After that, we will be switching it to Sunday from 2 to 5, okay?
[05:04.320 --> 05:06.320]  We will put the notices up.
[05:06.320 --> 05:09.320]  We will change the PSA to accommodate that.
[05:09.320 --> 05:16.320]  But this coming Saturday will be our last Saturday seminar from 3 to 6.
[05:16.320 --> 05:22.320]  And then after that, we'll be switching over to 2 to 5 on Sundays.
[05:22.320 --> 05:27.320]  Group consensus was that more people could attend on Sunday afternoon
[05:27.320 --> 05:29.320]  than they could on Saturdays because of work.
[05:29.320 --> 05:34.320]  So in an effort to accommodate as many people as possible, we switched it to that.
[05:34.320 --> 05:39.320]  Now, for some reason, there are folks out there that cannot make it on Sundays at all
[05:39.320 --> 05:41.320]  but could make it on Saturdays.
[05:41.320 --> 05:44.320]  If we've got a reasonable number of people that will do that,
[05:44.320 --> 05:47.320]  then I would even consider doing it both days.
[05:47.320 --> 05:52.320]  I want to help while I'm here in Austin as many people as I can.
[05:52.320 --> 05:57.320]  So let's just talk about that as we need to and see what we can do.
[05:57.320 --> 06:11.320]  Also, the next free Friday evening seminar is the 6th, okay, of May.
[06:11.320 --> 06:15.320]  And that will again be from 7 to 9 down at Brave New Books.
[06:15.320 --> 06:21.320]  We are going to set that up, which will be the first Friday of every month.
[06:21.320 --> 06:25.320]  We will have the open to the public, 7 to 9.
[06:25.320 --> 06:28.320]  We will be making a PSA for that as well.
[06:28.320 --> 06:32.320]  That's all the announcements I've got at the moment.
[06:32.320 --> 06:35.320]  Deborah, you said you had something that you needed to bring to light.
[06:35.320 --> 06:37.320]  Yeah, I have an announcement also.
[06:37.320 --> 06:39.320]  And I mentioned this on the air Friday night.
[06:39.320 --> 06:50.320]  And we will be making posts about this as well concerning House Bill 1938.
[06:50.320 --> 06:56.320]  It has been scheduled for public hearing of the Transportation Committee
[06:56.320 --> 07:00.320]  this coming Wednesday, House Bill 1938.
[07:00.320 --> 07:05.320]  This has to do with the prohibition of the naked body scanners in airports
[07:05.320 --> 07:12.320]  or other facilities as a means of entrance to a public facility.
[07:12.320 --> 07:20.320]  That would include libraries, courthouses, government buildings, et cetera,
[07:20.320 --> 07:22.320]  not just airports.
[07:22.320 --> 07:26.320]  Now we did have the hearing prohibiting offensive touching.
[07:26.320 --> 07:29.320]  That bill was heard a couple of weeks ago.
[07:29.320 --> 07:32.320]  This one is to prohibit the naked body scanners.
[07:32.320 --> 07:36.320]  That's this Wednesday, folks, now, just like last time,
[07:36.320 --> 07:40.320]  we don't know what time the bill is going to be heard.
[07:40.320 --> 07:44.320]  And so we want to coordinate as much as possible
[07:44.320 --> 07:49.320]  so that everybody doesn't have to sit there and wait all day long and all night long.
[07:49.320 --> 07:53.320]  Last time they didn't hear the bill until 11 o'clock at night.
[07:53.320 --> 07:59.320]  So folks, if you want to be part of this, if you want to go down there and speak
[07:59.320 --> 08:04.320]  and or turn in an affidavit, or I would say and turn in an affidavit,
[08:04.320 --> 08:08.320]  you have to turn in an affidavit if you want to talk, please let me know.
[08:08.320 --> 08:12.320]  Send me an email, Deborah at ruleoflawradio.com,
[08:12.320 --> 08:20.320]  and I will contact you the day of the hearing to let you know when the bill is going to be heard.
[08:20.320 --> 08:24.320]  I was very thankful that we had a coordinated effort on that matter last Wednesday.
[08:24.320 --> 08:28.320]  I mean, not last Wednesday, but last time the bill, when this other bill was heard.
[08:28.320 --> 08:34.320]  And folks, you can't just fill out an affidavit and have somebody else send it in.
[08:34.320 --> 08:35.320]  They won't let you do that.
[08:35.320 --> 08:41.320]  If you want to put your voice, if you want your voice to be heard on a bill
[08:41.320 --> 08:49.320]  when it comes in front of a committee for the Texas legislature, you have to go down there yourself.
[08:49.320 --> 08:52.320]  Now you don't have to stay if you don't want to talk,
[08:52.320 --> 08:58.320]  but you have to go down there yourself and fill out their little form and turn it and go and hand it in.
[08:58.320 --> 09:02.320]  You can't walk up there with a stack of affidavits from other people.
[09:02.320 --> 09:04.320]  They won't let you do that.
[09:04.320 --> 09:06.320]  So please get down there.
[09:06.320 --> 09:12.320]  That is this coming Wednesday.
[09:12.320 --> 09:16.320]  Absolutely get in contact with me by email,
[09:16.320 --> 09:23.320]  and then I will get in further contact with you concerning sending you text messages, et cetera,
[09:23.320 --> 09:28.320]  to be notified when the bill is actually going to come up for hearing.
[09:28.320 --> 09:32.320]  Now this is concerning if you want to speak on the bill.
[09:32.320 --> 09:37.320]  Now if you just want to turn in the affidavit that says you support the bill,
[09:37.320 --> 09:43.320]  you can go down to the committee hearing at any point in time during the day,
[09:43.320 --> 09:47.320]  or maybe even at night if the committee hearing goes late.
[09:47.320 --> 09:50.320]  You can go down there at any point in time during the committee hearing.
[09:50.320 --> 09:55.320]  Even if the bill has already been heard, you can still go and turn in your affidavit,
[09:55.320 --> 09:59.320]  but you have to go there during that particular hearing.
[09:59.320 --> 10:06.320]  You can't wait until the next time the committee has a hearing and then put your two cents in on the bill.
[10:06.320 --> 10:12.320]  But you can put your two cents in on any bill that the committee is hearing that particular day
[10:12.320 --> 10:15.320]  with the written affidavit form.
[10:15.320 --> 10:19.320]  If you want to speak, you actually have to be there when the bill is being heard.
[10:19.320 --> 10:22.320]  And folks, I would suggest if you have time, just go down there and listen.
[10:22.320 --> 10:24.320]  It's quite a learning experience.
[10:24.320 --> 10:29.320]  I mean, I'll tell you, if I had the time, especially for the criminal jurisprudence committee,
[10:29.320 --> 10:33.320]  I'd go down there and sit there all day and night and put my two cents in on all these bills
[10:33.320 --> 10:38.320]  because it's really a learning experience to see that this is how it starts,
[10:38.320 --> 10:40.320]  how they take away our rights.
[10:40.320 --> 10:42.320]  It's in the committee hearings.
[10:42.320 --> 10:44.320]  That's where all the discussion takes place.
[10:44.320 --> 10:46.320]  That's the beginning, formulating stages.
[10:46.320 --> 10:54.320]  And there are lots of people down there to speak in favor of the bill prohibiting the offensive touching.
[10:54.320 --> 11:00.320]  And as many of us were hearing some of these other bills, we're like, you know, that doesn't sound too good.
[11:00.320 --> 11:02.320]  I don't like that one either.
[11:02.320 --> 11:07.320]  And so folks are turning in affidavits for these other bills and going up and speaking for the other bills too.
[11:07.320 --> 11:13.320]  One guy got up there and said, you know, I wasn't even here for this bill, but I just got to speak on this.
[11:13.320 --> 11:18.320]  I don't like this bill, and here's why, and here's how it would have negatively impacted me and my family.
[11:18.320 --> 11:26.320]  And so it's good to go down there and listen to what's really going on because it makes a big difference.
[11:26.320 --> 11:29.320]  They do listen to us in these committee hearings.
[11:29.320 --> 11:32.320]  So at any rate, I just want to put that out there.
[11:32.320 --> 11:39.320]  Make sure, folks, you at least get down there on Wednesday, and I don't have the exact room number,
[11:39.320 --> 11:45.320]  but I will be looking that up for you all right now while we are on the air, and I'll get back to you all on that.
[11:45.320 --> 11:47.320]  But at least please try to get down there.
[11:47.320 --> 11:54.320]  You can call the criminal, I'm sorry, you can call the Transportation Committee to find out more information,
[11:54.320 --> 11:56.320]  and I'll be giving that number out as well.
[11:56.320 --> 12:00.320]  So all right, that's all I have for tonight as far as the announcements.
[12:00.320 --> 12:02.320]  Okay, Eddie, what you got?
[12:02.320 --> 12:09.320]  All right, well, I have been working diligently on paperwork for folks this past week.
[12:09.320 --> 12:14.320]  I've got five people going into cases tomorrow.
[12:14.320 --> 12:18.320]  I've got four or five others going into cases on the 12th.
[12:18.320 --> 12:24.320]  If you've got issues or questions, I've been trying to respond back to your e-mails.
[12:24.320 --> 12:31.320]  So please keep in mind that this is not something I can do on a moment's notice.
[12:31.320 --> 12:35.320]  If you need to get immediate response with something, I will do my best,
[12:35.320 --> 12:40.320]  but I cannot make promises because I'm getting bombarded from all sides with this.
[12:40.320 --> 12:48.320]  On top of that, I am also in the middle of trying to get the second book on due process put together,
[12:48.320 --> 12:59.320]  and it is basically a discussionary version of the legal motions that I've had to write
[12:59.320 --> 13:08.320]  pointing out where the lower courts, the police officers, the legislators, the judicial committees,
[13:08.320 --> 13:14.320]  the judges, where all these people are not abiding by the rules.
[13:14.320 --> 13:21.320]  So I'm taking all of these legal documents and I'm actually trying to convert them into a book form,
[13:21.320 --> 13:30.320]  point-by-point observation and discussion on here's where you guys don't know what the hell you're doing.
[13:30.320 --> 13:37.320]  And I know that's not going to go over very well if that was the title of the book,
[13:37.320 --> 13:43.320]  but still, politically correct has never been something I've ever been accused of.
[13:43.320 --> 13:47.320]  I'm going to tell it like it is. I'm not here to preserve your feelings.
[13:47.320 --> 13:51.320]  Why should I preserve the feelings of the individual that works for me,
[13:51.320 --> 13:56.320]  that refuses to abide by the rules I've already given him?
[13:56.320 --> 14:02.320]  And that would be these guys on the Texas Capitol down here.
[14:02.320 --> 14:07.320]  They simply will not do what they should be doing in the first place.
[14:07.320 --> 14:10.320]  How many of these committee hearings will we have to have
[14:10.320 --> 14:17.320]  if these people were actually looking out for the violation of our rights to begin with?
[14:17.320 --> 14:23.320]  It wouldn't be necessary for all the people to show up to have to fend off all the lobbyists
[14:23.320 --> 14:31.320]  if the people we elected to office went by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights first.
[14:31.320 --> 14:35.320]  If they would simply sit in their office and go, you know what?
[14:35.320 --> 14:41.320]  I really would like to accommodate you, but I took an oath to go by this document first,
[14:41.320 --> 14:46.320]  and what you're wanting, in my opinion, would violate that
[14:46.320 --> 14:52.320]  because it does away with a right or an interest of the people,
[14:52.320 --> 14:59.320]  either individually or collectively, and I swore I would not allow that to happen.
[14:59.320 --> 15:04.320]  So thank you so much for your consideration and for your discussion and your PAC money,
[15:04.320 --> 15:07.320]  but you can leave now.
[15:07.320 --> 15:15.320]  If we had honest people in office that were there for us, that is how these conversations would go.
[15:15.320 --> 15:19.320]  I'm quite sure Ron Paul does not have a problem with telling these people,
[15:19.320 --> 15:22.320]  well, thank you for your consideration of bringing that to my attention
[15:22.320 --> 15:27.320]  and for asking me to help you with it, but here's where I see the problems.
[15:27.320 --> 15:34.320]  And unfortunately, the problems it creates are ones I swore I would never do.
[15:34.320 --> 15:37.320]  Just imagine that, would you?
[15:37.320 --> 15:42.320]  I would love to imagine it, and every time I imagine it and think about it,
[15:42.320 --> 15:44.320]  I get mad because it's not what's there.
[15:44.320 --> 15:51.320]  And then I start thinking about well-limbed heavy trees and long pieces of rope
[15:51.320 --> 15:55.320]  and all this kind of stuff, but again, I digress.
[15:55.320 --> 16:03.320]  We have to go to these committee hearings because these people are not thinking about any of us ahead of time.
[16:03.320 --> 16:10.320]  They're thinking about what these PACs and these other folks that are donating to their campaigns
[16:10.320 --> 16:18.320]  are asking them to do for them, just like the toll road scenarios,
[16:18.320 --> 16:26.320]  just like the trans-Texas corridor scenarios, just like eminent domain scenarios.
[16:26.320 --> 16:28.320]  They're not thinking about us.
[16:28.320 --> 16:34.320]  They're thinking about re-election and how they can keep their fingers in the private ties
[16:34.320 --> 16:40.320]  that will subsidize them in their time out of government.
[16:40.320 --> 16:42.320]  Got nothing to do with us.
[16:42.320 --> 16:44.320]  But anyway, that's my rant.
[16:44.320 --> 16:49.320]  Go ahead and get up on the phone board, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[16:49.320 --> 16:51.320]  We're about to go to break.
[16:51.320 --> 16:53.320]  If we get any callers up, we'll take you on the other side.
[16:53.320 --> 16:55.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[16:55.320 --> 17:00.320]  We'll be right back.
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[19:31.320 --> 19:34.320]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[19:34.320 --> 19:40.320]  The phone lines are open, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[19:40.320 --> 19:45.320]  If you've got any traffic questions or issues or due process relating to such things,
[19:45.320 --> 19:48.320]  please give us a call. We'll help you out as best we can.
[19:48.320 --> 19:52.320]  Right now we do have a few callers on the board, Gary, Charlie, and Frank.
[19:52.320 --> 19:56.320]  And Gary, you are first in line. What can we do for you?
[19:56.320 --> 20:03.320]  Evening Eddie. I just, since it's traffic night, I wanted to relate to people
[20:03.320 --> 20:12.320]  who have to understand that police officers have no delegated duties to enforce
[20:12.320 --> 20:22.320]  traffic relations on private individuals because it depends on,
[20:22.320 --> 20:31.320]  because who's in charge, commissioner of my state, in the name of commissioner of driver services.
[20:31.320 --> 20:35.320]  And of course, he goes through the Best Trade Procedures Act.
[20:35.320 --> 20:42.320]  And what do we have? We have law enforcement officers issuing citations
[20:42.320 --> 20:47.320]  under what they call social laws.
[20:47.320 --> 20:53.320]  In other words, a crime, which you address very eloquently, if it's a crime.
[20:53.320 --> 20:57.320]  Well then, who is the injured party that's standing?
[20:57.320 --> 21:06.320]  Police officer first. He is an officer of the corporation of what city or county you're in.
[21:06.320 --> 21:19.320]  Now the sheriff and his deputies, what you're looking for is to attack him individually
[21:19.320 --> 21:28.320]  and there's a litany of cases where the deputies act outside the scope of their official duties,
[21:28.320 --> 21:39.320]  whereas the sheriff, he's a culpable by the doctrine of a carer's liability for his deputies
[21:39.320 --> 21:43.320]  because he hired him.
[21:43.320 --> 21:51.320]  And many times in this fall town, some of these deputies even have criminal records and they don't check them.
[21:51.320 --> 22:02.320]  But the purpose of the call is when someone asks that, well, you get a summons to a court,
[22:02.320 --> 22:11.320]  well first, your chance is that the commissioner of the Department of Transportation,
[22:11.320 --> 22:17.320]  according to what he said, failed to exhaust his administrative remedies
[22:17.320 --> 22:27.320]  and so really goes the first in the police officer standing before he gets a so-called judicial proceeding
[22:27.320 --> 22:33.320]  that as most knowledgeable people know that a traffic court is not a real court.
[22:33.320 --> 22:42.320]  It's an administrative tribunal just like all the other people because you have no right to jury trial.
[22:42.320 --> 22:45.320]  You do not have discovery.
[22:45.320 --> 22:56.320]  And then you have many times the city council and the mayor appoint some private attorney to be a so-called judge.
[22:56.320 --> 23:04.320]  Well, hell, he's a judge, prosecutor, he's one call, that's all. And as we all know, I use the rules,
[23:04.320 --> 23:16.320]  federal rules of evidence that a judge can't testify under Rule 605 as that pertains to witnesses.
[23:16.320 --> 23:24.320]  You always have to have a competent fact witness for personal knowledge and to have standing that's been injured party.
[23:24.320 --> 23:31.320]  So I will say that I applaud you and give you an expert on that.
[23:31.320 --> 23:37.320]  So I'd just like to hear your testimony for me and the audience, what do you think when I've said, sir?
[23:37.320 --> 23:40.320]  Well, I agree with everything you said.
[23:40.320 --> 23:48.320]  I know here in Texas that the Department of Public Safety, according to the codes, is an administrative state agency.
[23:48.320 --> 23:55.320]  They are not, according to their own understanding of the law, a law enforcement agency.
[23:55.320 --> 24:03.320]  They are there to augment and assist local law enforcement only upon request.
[24:03.320 --> 24:08.320]  They are, for all intents and purposes, administrative traffic cops.
[24:08.320 --> 24:14.320]  That's all. That's what their own understanding of our code in Texas is.
[24:14.320 --> 24:23.320]  Their understanding also is that the entire purpose of what they do is for commercial and for hire traffic.
[24:23.320 --> 24:32.320]  And that the authority to enforce the rules for commercial and for hire traffic are limited to specific certifications
[24:32.320 --> 24:39.320]  that the Department of Public Safety must directly delegate to local law enforcement.
[24:39.320 --> 24:45.320]  And they spell out exactly how and where they're able to do that.
[24:45.320 --> 24:53.320]  But local law enforcement and municipalities and counties are living under the delusional impression
[24:53.320 --> 24:59.320]  that they themselves automatically have this power, and they do not.
[24:59.320 --> 25:06.320]  So based upon everything you said, I can vouch that it's absolutely true here in Texas.
[25:06.320 --> 25:14.320]  I haven't researched it per capita or per statute in Georgia, but I'm quite sure you probably have.
[25:14.320 --> 25:18.320]  I know California is the same way it is here in Texas.
[25:18.320 --> 25:22.320]  So there's not guesswork in this, folks.
[25:22.320 --> 25:27.320]  This is long years of research dissecting this information.
[25:27.320 --> 25:31.320]  This is not something I'm just surmising or guessing at.
[25:31.320 --> 25:34.320]  I've proven it through the statutes themselves.
[25:34.320 --> 25:39.320]  So Gary, I agree with everything you said, and I believe it ought to be correct.
[25:39.320 --> 25:40.320]  Thank you.
[25:40.320 --> 25:45.320]  Thank you for your comment, Eddie, because now it goes to the remedy.
[25:45.320 --> 25:53.320]  It's where if someone says something, he's testifying to you because he's going to put it in paper.
[25:53.320 --> 25:56.320]  Three modes of testimony is oral, which I'm doing right now.
[25:56.320 --> 25:57.320]  They're descriptive.
[25:57.320 --> 26:06.320]  He's a subscribing witness when he says, well, you're summoned to such and such a court, blah, blah, blah.
[26:06.320 --> 26:13.320]  But then you have an absolute right confrontation under not only civil rights,
[26:13.320 --> 26:21.320]  but to get to a federal right where they violate federal law, federal constitution, rules of evidence,
[26:21.320 --> 26:27.320]  to confront the witness and have him under oath.
[26:27.320 --> 26:40.320]  And many times, and there's the so-called administrative tribunal, such as recorder's court, recorder's court, traffic court.
[26:40.320 --> 26:43.320]  They even have mayor's courts here in Georgia.
[26:43.320 --> 26:51.320]  In case I look up, they even have the city council when they were courts.
[26:51.320 --> 26:53.320]  But they're not courts.
[26:53.320 --> 26:58.320]  They're just another extension of administrative law.
[26:58.320 --> 27:14.320]  And as such, when you start asking before you even get to your so-called trial, do you open records act request for the man's, his duties under law?
[27:14.320 --> 27:18.320]  And then you want to ask for his thankful performance fund.
[27:18.320 --> 27:22.320]  You want to ask for his oath of office.
[27:22.320 --> 27:28.320]  And also, since all courts are securitized, they have an EIN number two.
[27:28.320 --> 27:30.320]  I've already done that.
[27:30.320 --> 27:38.320]  So just for a listening audience, do not let them lock you up, put you in jail.
[27:38.320 --> 27:45.320]  It's one thing is when they have the guns, you do not hold court on the side of the road.
[27:45.320 --> 27:49.320]  If you're in court and they say do this, you do it.
[27:49.320 --> 27:53.320]  But once you get away from them, beat them up on paper.
[27:53.320 --> 28:03.320]  And when they, as I said, these traffic courts, they do not have rules for discovery.
[28:03.320 --> 28:14.320]  But it doesn't say, as you're a matter of right, can I put the paper there so even if you go to one of those tribunals, I stand on my pleading.
[28:14.320 --> 28:25.320]  And when they will not read it, then the judge, he's touched the car baby, he's aiding in the bedding in the testimony of the police officer.
[28:25.320 --> 28:30.320]  And they go for their bond and their surety company.
[28:30.320 --> 28:36.320]  And you never even really get into judicial proceeding unless you have to.
[28:36.320 --> 28:41.320]  Anyway, Eddie, thank you very much, sir, for listening to me and I appreciate you too.
[28:41.320 --> 28:43.320]  God bless. Good night.
[28:43.320 --> 28:45.320]  Thank you. You too.
[28:45.320 --> 28:47.320]  All right.
[28:47.320 --> 28:52.320]  Now, now we go to Frank in New York.
[28:52.320 --> 28:53.320]  Good evening, Frank.
[28:53.320 --> 28:55.320]  Oh, what can we do for you?
[28:55.320 --> 28:57.320]  Hi, Eddie.
[28:57.320 --> 28:58.320]  Hold on a second.
[28:58.320 --> 29:02.320]  I got rid of this static in my finger.
[29:02.320 --> 29:03.320]  Okay.
[29:03.320 --> 29:06.320]  All right.
[29:06.320 --> 29:07.320]  I'm Frank.
[29:07.320 --> 29:08.320]  You remember me?
[29:08.320 --> 29:11.320]  I had a problem with my girlfriend's son.
[29:11.320 --> 29:12.320]  Yes.
[29:12.320 --> 29:13.320]  Okay.
[29:13.320 --> 29:15.320]  A new development.
[29:15.320 --> 29:23.320]  The reason he put charges on me was because he got pulled over doing 80 miles an hour and he needed an excuse.
[29:23.320 --> 29:25.320]  An excuse for what?
[29:25.320 --> 29:28.320]  An excuse for speeding.
[29:28.320 --> 29:36.320]  He told the police that I had hit him with the car and that's why he was speeding after us.
[29:36.320 --> 29:37.320]  Okay.
[29:37.320 --> 29:40.320]  This was from his brother.
[29:40.320 --> 29:42.320]  Okay. Well, hang on just a second, Frank.
[29:42.320 --> 29:43.320]  We're going to go to break.
[29:43.320 --> 29:44.320]  We'll pick you up on the other side.
[29:44.320 --> 29:45.320]  All right, folks.
[29:45.320 --> 29:47.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[29:47.320 --> 29:49.320]  Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[29:49.320 --> 29:53.320]  It is traffic night, 512-646-1984.
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[32:22.320 --> 32:47.320]  All right, folks, we are back.
[32:47.320 --> 32:49.320]  We are currently on the line.
[32:49.320 --> 32:52.320]  We have Frank, Charlie, and Mary.
[32:52.320 --> 32:54.320]  Frank, would you please continue?
[32:54.320 --> 33:00.320]  You said that your stepson made the report, the false report to the police
[33:00.320 --> 33:09.320]  about you hitting him with the car to cover up for the reason he was speeding and got pulled over.
[33:09.320 --> 33:10.320]  Exactly.
[33:10.320 --> 33:15.320]  This is from his brother, and his brother told his mother.
[33:15.320 --> 33:17.320]  He said he thought she should know.
[33:17.320 --> 33:24.320]  We just came back from vacation, and I have my ID now, so I can do affidavits.
[33:24.320 --> 33:29.320]  I had to pick up my ID from my father's house.
[33:29.320 --> 33:33.320]  What I'm wondering now is he's not going to release me from this false charge
[33:33.320 --> 33:41.320]  because he's going to be really in big trouble for making this stuff up.
[33:41.320 --> 33:43.320]  So I need a new plan.
[33:43.320 --> 33:47.320]  He's not taking the persuasion from his mother.
[33:47.320 --> 33:52.320]  He knows he's in for it, and I think he's going to just take the crapshoot
[33:52.320 --> 33:56.320]  and ride the train all the way over the cliff.
[33:56.320 --> 34:00.320]  How old is the brother that has the information?
[34:00.320 --> 34:03.320]  He's 30-something.
[34:03.320 --> 34:07.320]  Then he's well over the age of being able to file an affidavit of his own,
[34:07.320 --> 34:11.320]  stating this is the information received directly from the horse's mouth.
[34:11.320 --> 34:13.320]  He's not going to do that.
[34:13.320 --> 34:16.320]  He's not going to betray his brother, but he did tell his mom she should know.
[34:16.320 --> 34:22.320]  This gives us the leg up to know that he's not going to release me from this false charge.
[34:22.320 --> 34:26.320]  Now we're going to have to use a different tact since persuasion is not going to work.
[34:26.320 --> 34:29.320]  Well, but here's the problem.
[34:29.320 --> 34:33.320]  The brother may not want to betray his brother,
[34:33.320 --> 34:39.320]  but if the mother fills out an affidavit that he has information relevant to this
[34:39.320 --> 34:48.320]  and he supports the brother in the act, he has a new problem all his own.
[34:48.320 --> 34:50.320]  Okay.
[34:50.320 --> 34:52.320]  That's good information, Eddie.
[34:52.320 --> 34:57.320]  Now, I'm not going to turn myself into the police because they're money-making fools.
[34:57.320 --> 35:01.320]  So they're going to try to drag us all into court and make money off of us that way.
[35:01.320 --> 35:03.320]  Well, you're right there.
[35:03.320 --> 35:04.320]  It's a small town.
[35:04.320 --> 35:10.320]  What I want to do is I want to turn affidavits, motions to cross warrants, things like that,
[35:10.320 --> 35:14.320]  that instead of dealing with the Pete police directly first,
[35:14.320 --> 35:22.320]  I want to get my paperwork in and then because I can do affidavits now and things, motion things.
[35:22.320 --> 35:27.320]  I couldn't do that before because I didn't have any ID to get notaries and all that.
[35:27.320 --> 35:28.320]  Okay.
[35:28.320 --> 35:33.320]  So is it advisable that the mother gets an affidavit as well because she was a witness
[35:33.320 --> 35:35.320]  plus he did attack her?
[35:35.320 --> 35:36.320]  Absolutely.
[35:36.320 --> 35:42.320]  Everyone that has pertinent information to this should be filing affidavits as to the facts.
[35:42.320 --> 35:43.320]  Okay.
[35:43.320 --> 35:49.320]  So now, the mother, will she have to press charges or be an accessory if she doesn't say...
[35:49.320 --> 35:51.320]  She's not going to have to press charges.
[35:51.320 --> 35:58.320]  Nobody's going to have to because as soon as the cops get affidavits saying that this kid made up a false report to the police,
[35:58.320 --> 36:01.320]  they're going to press them all by themselves.
[36:01.320 --> 36:02.320]  Okay.
[36:02.320 --> 36:05.320]  This is the problem for the older brother.
[36:05.320 --> 36:09.320]  If he's aiding and abetting in the cover-up for the younger brother,
[36:09.320 --> 36:12.320]  he's going to be named as an accomplice.
[36:12.320 --> 36:15.320]  Oh, my God.
[36:15.320 --> 36:17.320]  He's got a couple of kids.
[36:17.320 --> 36:21.320]  Well, he needs to understand what he is and isn't doing.
[36:21.320 --> 36:30.320]  He's not helping the younger brother by helping him lie to the cops against you.
[36:30.320 --> 36:35.320]  Okay. So there's emotional problems, too, as far as the mom's concerned.
[36:35.320 --> 36:37.320]  I don't want to call her a witness.
[36:37.320 --> 36:40.320]  I'm not saying this is a clean getaway for anybody.
[36:40.320 --> 36:43.320]  No, it's not a clean getaway.
[36:43.320 --> 36:51.320]  But this is the situation in which you find yourselves because of one kid's desire to keep his own butt out of trouble.
[36:51.320 --> 36:56.320]  Rather than face up to something as simple as a speeding ticket,
[36:56.320 --> 37:06.320]  he's wanting to go and create a whole slew of problems that go way beyond the universe encompassed by that.
[37:06.320 --> 37:14.320]  And, you know, not to sound unkind, but I've got no sympathy for that state of mind.
[37:14.320 --> 37:15.320]  Okay.
[37:15.320 --> 37:20.320]  I don't either, Daddy, but I, you know, I raised a kid myself for a couple years,
[37:20.320 --> 37:25.320]  and it's hard for me a little bit to understand why he would do such a thing,
[37:25.320 --> 37:28.320]  if it's a control issue with his mom.
[37:28.320 --> 37:30.320]  Well, I'm not a psychiatrist.
[37:30.320 --> 37:35.320]  I can't go into speculation over the issues of the whines.
[37:35.320 --> 37:40.320]  All I can tell you is the potential results of the what's,
[37:40.320 --> 37:45.320]  and he's not going to like the outcome of any of them or someone's not.
[37:45.320 --> 37:46.320]  Right.
[37:46.320 --> 37:47.320]  Okay.
[37:47.320 --> 37:51.320]  So let me, I need it specific about talking to the police.
[37:51.320 --> 37:57.320]  If the mother talks to the police, she shouldn't offer anything but the facts.
[37:57.320 --> 37:59.320]  Do not go to the police.
[37:59.320 --> 38:07.320]  Go directly to the prosecuting attorney for the county or the district, whoever currently is handling the charges.
[38:07.320 --> 38:08.320]  Okay.
[38:08.320 --> 38:09.320]  So never go to the police first.
[38:09.320 --> 38:11.320]  Go to the district attorney first.
[38:11.320 --> 38:16.320]  No, because the police can't do anything but enforce a warrant if there is one.
[38:16.320 --> 38:21.320]  They can't make any decisions or determinations about what to do to who.
[38:21.320 --> 38:26.320]  All they can do is arrest you if there's a warrant and investigate any other accusations made.
[38:26.320 --> 38:27.320]  That's it.
[38:27.320 --> 38:28.320]  Okay.
[38:28.320 --> 38:29.320]  Okay.
[38:29.320 --> 38:30.320]  So never go to the police.
[38:30.320 --> 38:31.320]  Go to the prosecutor.
[38:31.320 --> 38:32.320]  Correct.
[38:32.320 --> 38:33.320]  Okay.
[38:33.320 --> 38:34.320]  Great.
[38:34.320 --> 38:36.320]  Because they can't affect anything but arrest me.
[38:36.320 --> 38:37.320]  That's all they can do.
[38:37.320 --> 38:38.320]  That's correct.
[38:38.320 --> 38:39.320]  Okay.
[38:39.320 --> 38:40.320]  So that's good news.
[38:40.320 --> 38:44.320]  I'm sure I have a warrant or something.
[38:44.320 --> 38:47.320]  They did go to my father's house and tell him they wanted to talk to me.
[38:47.320 --> 38:54.320]  I don't know if it's just a – I don't know if they just want me to talk to them to get more clarity or to arrest me.
[38:54.320 --> 38:56.320]  They're probably going to arrest me.
[38:56.320 --> 38:59.320]  And they do charge very high bail there.
[38:59.320 --> 39:07.320]  Well, that's why you have the mother take the information in the form of affidavits to the prosecuting attorney first.
[39:07.320 --> 39:12.320]  Get the information in front of him as to what is going on.
[39:12.320 --> 39:14.320]  Okay. So let me get this clear.
[39:14.320 --> 39:18.320]  Have the mother take the affidavit –
[39:18.320 --> 39:25.320]  Your affidavit, her affidavit, and anyone else with pertinent knowledge of the facts affidavits.
[39:25.320 --> 39:26.320]  Okay.
[39:26.320 --> 39:27.320]  That's very good information.
[39:27.320 --> 39:29.320]  Thank you, Eddie.
[39:29.320 --> 39:30.320]  I'll let you go now.
[39:30.320 --> 39:31.320]  Okay.
[39:31.320 --> 39:32.320]  That's perfect.
[39:32.320 --> 39:33.320]  Good luck.
[39:33.320 --> 39:34.320]  Thank you.
[39:34.320 --> 39:35.320]  Okay.
[39:35.320 --> 39:36.320]  Bye.
[39:36.320 --> 39:37.320]  Bye-bye.
[39:37.320 --> 39:38.320]  All right.
[39:38.320 --> 39:39.320]  That was Frank.
[39:39.320 --> 39:40.320]  Now we're going to go to Charlie.
[39:40.320 --> 39:41.320]  Let's see.
[39:41.320 --> 39:42.320]  What can we do for you?
[39:42.320 --> 39:43.320]  Hello, Eddie.
[39:43.320 --> 39:44.320]  Thanks for being here.
[39:44.320 --> 39:45.320]  Hello.
[39:45.320 --> 39:47.320]  Can you hear me?
[39:47.320 --> 39:48.320]  Yeah, I can hear you.
[39:48.320 --> 39:57.320]  Eddie, first thing I wanted to ask is I did make a – I made a donation on the rule of law.
[39:57.320 --> 40:07.320]  And does it make a difference if I make a – does it make a difference if I make a donation to you or to – does it make a difference if I make a donation to Randy's beer fund?
[40:07.320 --> 40:12.320]  Well, it doesn't make a difference which one you make it to.
[40:12.320 --> 40:16.320]  Randy's going to be able to drink and hold about the same in either case.
[40:16.320 --> 40:21.320]  Yeah, which is next to nothing because he's a lightweight.
[40:21.320 --> 40:29.320]  But to answer – further answer your question, Charlie, it does make a difference because donations to Eddie go directly to Eddie.
[40:29.320 --> 40:34.320]  And donations to the network go to the network to support the network.
[40:34.320 --> 40:38.320]  And donations to Randy's beer fund, well, you know –
[40:38.320 --> 40:41.320]  It gets dispersed as needed.
[40:41.320 --> 40:43.320]  It gets dispersed as needed, exactly.
[40:43.320 --> 40:47.320]  And we do – and the network does need donations right now, folks, really bad.
[40:47.320 --> 40:53.320]  And there is a special button for donations for Eddie also because he's doing this for a living.
[40:53.320 --> 40:55.320]  We all are doing this for a living.
[40:55.320 --> 40:56.320]  I'm doing this for a living.
[40:56.320 --> 40:57.320]  This is my –
[40:57.320 --> 40:58.320]  Such as it is, yes.
[40:58.320 --> 41:09.320]  Yes, as a meager in existence as it is. But yeah, this is what I do full-time is run the rule of law radio network and produce all the other shows.
[41:09.320 --> 41:13.320]  And Eddie does research on traffic issues and other issues full-time.
[41:13.320 --> 41:16.320]  And Randy, fortunately, he's got a business dealing with mortgage fraud.
[41:16.320 --> 41:18.320]  But basically, folks, we do this for a living.
[41:18.320 --> 41:26.320]  So we really do need assistance to pay the infrastructure bills of the network so that we don't have to totally pay for everything out of our own pockets.
[41:26.320 --> 41:29.320]  So thank you, Charlie. We appreciate that.
[41:29.320 --> 41:35.320]  Well, so Randy's Beer Party would actually go to the rule of law radio in general.
[41:35.320 --> 41:37.320]  Yes, in general.
[41:37.320 --> 41:43.320]  If you really want him to buy a beer with it, I'll let him know.
[41:43.320 --> 41:46.320]  But like I said, he'll probably be able to drink about half of it.
[41:46.320 --> 41:49.320]  Yeah, he won't remember it the next morning, but still.
[41:49.320 --> 41:52.320]  I was sad to laugh about that when I saw that.
[41:52.320 --> 41:59.320]  Now, you know, I can't commit to a consistent support.
[41:59.320 --> 42:01.320]  I wish I could, but I could do one time.
[42:01.320 --> 42:05.320]  So my policy is like I call the Gen 21, I donate to them.
[42:05.320 --> 42:08.320]  I call Eddie, I donate to him. I call Randy, I'll donate to him.
[42:08.320 --> 42:14.320]  So I'm sorry, but that's the best I can do.
[42:14.320 --> 42:16.320]  We do what we can do when we can do it.
[42:16.320 --> 42:18.320]  I'm not holding anybody to anything.
[42:18.320 --> 42:22.320]  In fact, if it was not for the Saturday seminars here in Austin
[42:22.320 --> 42:24.320]  and all the kind folks that are willing to step up
[42:24.320 --> 42:29.320]  and walk out with their ears hurting after three hours of listening to me talk,
[42:29.320 --> 42:34.320]  I wouldn't be on very much of an ability to eat myself.
[42:34.320 --> 42:39.320]  So I know how it is, and we don't begrudge anybody the same predicament.
[42:39.320 --> 42:43.320]  But we appreciate the efforts you make on our behalf when you're able.
[42:43.320 --> 42:45.320]  Yeah, well, I'm trying to.
[42:45.320 --> 42:49.320]  And then as I start to win some of these cases, the money that I would have lost,
[42:49.320 --> 42:53.320]  I'm trying to put that back into you people because I listen to you constantly.
[42:53.320 --> 42:57.320]  I think, you know, I'm thinking I hope others will do the same.
[42:57.320 --> 42:59.320]  Well, Charlie, we really appreciate it.
[42:59.320 --> 43:02.320]  You know, we do post our archives for free,
[43:02.320 --> 43:05.320]  and most Patriot networks actually charge for their archives.
[43:05.320 --> 43:07.320]  So I do give away the archives.
[43:07.320 --> 43:10.320]  We do everything we can to give away as much as we can for free,
[43:10.320 --> 43:12.320]  and we really appreciate the help.
[43:12.320 --> 43:15.320]  And, folks, I know we have thousands of listeners out there,
[43:15.320 --> 43:21.320]  and if everybody would just even sign up for a $10 monthly donation subscription
[43:21.320 --> 43:25.320]  just to have it automatically donate every month $10.
[43:25.320 --> 43:29.320]  I mean, if we could get just even a reasonable number of people doing that,
[43:29.320 --> 43:34.320]  you know, 20, 30, 100, it would go so far to helping this network.
[43:34.320 --> 43:40.320]  So, folks, we do not despise your donations, even if you only give us five bucks.
[43:40.320 --> 43:44.320]  If a thousand people gave us five bucks, we could work miracles around here.
[43:44.320 --> 43:48.320]  So any little amount that you can give, we don't despise it.
[43:48.320 --> 43:51.320]  Don't despise your own donation. We really appreciate it.
[43:51.320 --> 43:55.320]  Charlie, why don't you stay right there, and we'll continue with your call on the other side.
[43:55.320 --> 43:56.320]  All right.
[43:56.320 --> 43:58.320]  All right. We'll be right back, folks.
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[46:25.320 --> 46:30.320]  We're taking your phone calls, 512-646-1984.
[46:30.320 --> 46:33.320]  And, Charlie, before we go back to you,
[46:33.320 --> 46:40.320]  I just wanted to continue my announcement concerning the House Transportation Committee
[46:40.320 --> 46:49.320]  that is going to be this Wednesday, April 6th, concerning House Bill 1938.
[46:49.320 --> 46:53.320]  And this has to do with the prohibition of the naked body scanners.
[46:53.320 --> 46:56.320]  Now, I do have some more information on the committee hearing.
[46:56.320 --> 46:59.320]  The committee hearing starts at 8 a.m.
[46:59.320 --> 47:01.320]  Whew, early.
[47:01.320 --> 47:02.320]  That's pretty early for me.
[47:02.320 --> 47:07.320]  Anyways, at 10 a.m., all the committees are going to adjourn
[47:07.320 --> 47:10.320]  because the House is going to go into session at 10 a.m.
[47:10.320 --> 47:14.320]  Now, the House will adjourn around 2-ish,
[47:14.320 --> 47:20.320]  and then the reps will go back into their respective committee hearings.
[47:20.320 --> 47:25.320]  So I've set up a tag-team effort with my friend Heather Fazio
[47:25.320 --> 47:27.320]  from Texas for Accountable Government.
[47:27.320 --> 47:31.320]  She's going to be down there in the morning, during the morning section,
[47:31.320 --> 47:37.320]  and she's going to text message me if they hear the bill in the morning part of the meeting.
[47:37.320 --> 47:43.320]  And then I'm going to go down there around 2-ish when the House adjourns,
[47:43.320 --> 47:48.320]  and I'll be there during the afternoon, for the afternoon session,
[47:48.320 --> 47:53.320]  and then I'll let her know if they hear the bill during the afternoon session.
[47:53.320 --> 47:58.320]  So we've got a tag-team set up so that we can each let our peeps know
[47:58.320 --> 48:00.320]  when the bill is actually going to be heard.
[48:00.320 --> 48:01.320]  Now, who knows?
[48:01.320 --> 48:04.320]  This thing could go until 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.
[48:04.320 --> 48:09.320]  When the Criminal Jurisprudence Committee was having their hearing,
[48:09.320 --> 48:17.320]  they didn't hear the offensive touching bill until 11 o'clock at night.
[48:17.320 --> 48:22.320]  And I left about 2-15 in the morning, and there were still like 40 people there,
[48:22.320 --> 48:26.320]  and there were still at least 10 or 15 people who hadn't even spoken yet.
[48:26.320 --> 48:29.320]  So who knows how late these things can go?
[48:29.320 --> 48:30.320]  Hopefully it won't go that late this time.
[48:30.320 --> 48:33.320]  Hopefully they'll hear our bill either during the afternoon
[48:33.320 --> 48:36.320]  or at least during a reasonable part of the evening.
[48:36.320 --> 48:41.320]  But at any rate, I'm going to submit some PSAs to the local affiliates,
[48:41.320 --> 48:48.320]  so we will keep you guys and gals out there posted as to when they actually hear this bill.
[48:48.320 --> 48:51.320]  So you can get down there and speak if you want.
[48:51.320 --> 48:55.320]  Now, again, if you don't want to speak or you can't or you don't have time,
[48:55.320 --> 48:59.320]  stop by and drop off.
[48:59.320 --> 49:01.320]  Submit your affidavit.
[49:01.320 --> 49:05.320]  Now, they have forms for you to fill out where you fill out your name and your address.
[49:05.320 --> 49:08.320]  Telephone number, I believe, is optional.
[49:08.320 --> 49:12.320]  And you put whether you're opposed or supportive of the bill,
[49:12.320 --> 49:17.320]  and then you turn that in to the clerk of the committee.
[49:17.320 --> 49:19.320]  You have to do that of the day of the hearing.
[49:19.320 --> 49:21.320]  Even if they've already heard the bill, you can.
[49:21.320 --> 49:25.320]  Now, I have the information on where the committee hearing is going to be located.
[49:25.320 --> 49:31.320]  It's going to be in room E2.028 of the Capitol.
[49:31.320 --> 49:34.320]  Now, E2 is the extension building.
[49:34.320 --> 49:36.320]  You go down in the elevators.
[49:36.320 --> 49:44.320]  When you go to the Capitol, you take the elevator down to floor E2, and then it's room 028.
[49:44.320 --> 49:47.320]  Now, be prepared to go through some security at the Capitol.
[49:47.320 --> 49:50.320]  They make folks their purses, laptops, et cetera.
[49:50.320 --> 49:53.320]  You have to run them through their X-ray machine,
[49:53.320 --> 49:55.320]  and then you have to go through a metal detector.
[49:55.320 --> 49:58.320]  It's not as outrageous as going through the airport,
[49:58.320 --> 50:01.320]  but you do have to walk through the metal detector
[50:01.320 --> 50:05.320]  and put your belongings through the X-ray machine like you do at City Hall here.
[50:05.320 --> 50:09.320]  So, at any rate, that's the scoop, room E2.028.
[50:09.320 --> 50:11.320]  E2 is the floor.
[50:11.320 --> 50:14.320]  You go down a couple of levels, and then room 028.
[50:14.320 --> 50:17.320]  So, folks, if you want to go, you want to be posted,
[50:17.320 --> 50:21.320]  if you want to stay on the list to be notified, send me an e-mail,
[50:21.320 --> 50:24.320]  Deborah at Rule of Law Radio.
[50:24.320 --> 50:29.320]  Okay, we are going to go now back to Charlie from Missouri.
[50:29.320 --> 50:31.320]  And yes, Charlie, as I was telling you and everyone else,
[50:31.320 --> 50:36.320]  don't despise your donations, every little bit helps, believe me.
[50:36.320 --> 50:37.320]  Every little bit helps.
[50:37.320 --> 50:41.320]  We depend on you listeners and our sponsors to keep the show on the air,
[50:41.320 --> 50:43.320]  so we really appreciate everything.
[50:43.320 --> 50:45.320]  Okay, Charlie, please go ahead.
[50:45.320 --> 50:47.320]  What is your question or comment for us?
[50:47.320 --> 50:52.320]  Well, first of all, I just want to say thanks for that dissertation on what you go through.
[50:52.320 --> 50:53.320]  That's crazy.
[50:53.320 --> 50:54.320]  You spend all that time down there.
[50:54.320 --> 50:57.320]  I hope you get the donations to support your time down there.
[50:57.320 --> 51:01.320]  I'm in Missouri, so I'm not looking at that,
[51:01.320 --> 51:06.320]  but I surely appreciate your time and efforts on that,
[51:06.320 --> 51:09.320]  and that's just crazy spending that much time down here.
[51:09.320 --> 51:10.320]  Anyway.
[51:10.320 --> 51:14.320]  Yeah, that's the way it goes with the legislature in these committee hearings.
[51:14.320 --> 51:18.320]  I mean, they've got all the bills listed on the agenda to be heard,
[51:18.320 --> 51:21.320]  but you never know what order they're going to take them in.
[51:21.320 --> 51:22.320]  You just never know.
[51:22.320 --> 51:27.320]  Sometimes the clerk will know like two or three bills in advance,
[51:27.320 --> 51:29.320]  and they'll let us know, hey, call your people.
[51:29.320 --> 51:32.320]  We're going to hear the bill after the next one or something like that,
[51:32.320 --> 51:34.320]  but in general, there's just no way to know.
[51:34.320 --> 51:39.320]  And there's a saying in Texas that goes like this.
[51:39.320 --> 51:46.320]  It says, your life, your wife, and your property are not safe while the Texas legislature is in session,
[51:46.320 --> 51:50.320]  so we have to keep on top of these public serpents.
[51:50.320 --> 51:53.320]  All right, go ahead, Charlie.
[51:53.320 --> 51:58.320]  One thing, I'm going to try to rush through this now because I know there's other callers,
[51:58.320 --> 52:02.320]  but just on the lighter side, I just wanted to tell Eddie.
[52:02.320 --> 52:07.320]  I don't know if it has any effect on anything, but I'm a construction guy, a handyman type of guy.
[52:07.320 --> 52:08.320]  I just work for myself.
[52:08.320 --> 52:16.320]  I have a partner, and then I have a truck, and so I drive around the city of St. Louis constantly all the time.
[52:16.320 --> 52:20.320]  When I drive around, because I'm constantly on the road,
[52:20.320 --> 52:23.320]  I'm susceptible to getting pulled over constantly all the time.
[52:23.320 --> 52:28.320]  So one of the things that I did is I got these highlighted stickers that use, they're reflective stickers,
[52:28.320 --> 52:31.320]  and I posted them on the back of my truck.
[52:31.320 --> 52:36.320]  It says, motor vehicle not in use.
[52:36.320 --> 52:38.320]  That's just on the lighter side.
[52:38.320 --> 52:39.320]  I think it's kind of...
[52:39.320 --> 52:41.320]  Motor vehicle not in use?
[52:41.320 --> 52:43.320]  Yes.
[52:43.320 --> 52:45.320]  Okay.
[52:45.320 --> 52:49.320]  I don't know that it has any effect on anything or what purpose it serves,
[52:49.320 --> 52:53.320]  but I find it pretty comical, and I get a lot of people asking me questions about it.
[52:53.320 --> 52:57.320]  On the other side, I think that if an officer saw it,
[52:57.320 --> 53:03.320]  I mean, it's pretty obvious that the motor vehicle is being displayed, that it's not in use.
[53:03.320 --> 53:09.320]  Well, yeah, you could also just put non-motor vehicle on it.
[53:09.320 --> 53:11.320]  Well, I like mine now.
[53:11.320 --> 53:12.320]  It's been a little bit better.
[53:12.320 --> 53:13.320]  I just like to spell it out.
[53:13.320 --> 53:17.320]  I'm going to get stickers that say, driver not on duty.
[53:17.320 --> 53:18.320]  Yeah.
[53:18.320 --> 53:23.320]  Anyway, I did get a ticket, and I had previously called about it, and what I did...
[53:23.320 --> 53:26.320]  Of course, what I did is I made an error in judgment.
[53:26.320 --> 53:28.320]  I put the wrong place on my truck.
[53:28.320 --> 53:29.320]  I pulled over.
[53:29.320 --> 53:33.320]  When the officer pulled me over, I told him that I wasn't driving.
[53:33.320 --> 53:35.320]  Anyway, he did issue me a couple of tickets.
[53:35.320 --> 53:41.320]  He issued me one for not having registered the vehicle properly,
[53:41.320 --> 53:45.320]  and then I refused to show him my...
[53:45.320 --> 53:47.320]  First of all, I did what you said.
[53:47.320 --> 53:50.320]  I told him that I wasn't driving, asked him if I was under arrest.
[53:50.320 --> 53:53.320]  He said, no, I was being detained.
[53:53.320 --> 53:55.320]  He issued me two tickets.
[53:55.320 --> 53:59.320]  The first ticket was for a failure to register,
[53:59.320 --> 54:02.320]  which was probably more valid because I didn't have the right place on there,
[54:02.320 --> 54:07.320]  and then the second one was failure to produce driver's license.
[54:07.320 --> 54:11.320]  When he issued me these tickets, and then I followed up on these tickets...
[54:11.320 --> 54:18.320]  I've done a lot of the things that you have advised the people to do with the courts,
[54:18.320 --> 54:20.320]  but specifically with these tickets.
[54:20.320 --> 54:24.320]  When I was following up on these tickets, I couldn't find the law that I was in violation of,
[54:24.320 --> 54:31.320]  so I called the municipality involved, and what they did is they wrote me up...
[54:31.320 --> 54:34.320]  They didn't write me up in violation of a Missouri statute.
[54:34.320 --> 54:41.320]  They wrote me up in violation of an ordinance, which pertains to the same statute,
[54:41.320 --> 54:46.320]  and when he wrote me the ticket as well, he wrote me the ticket in my name and lowercase letters.
[54:46.320 --> 54:53.320]  I did send them a declaration of standing when my name is not going to be in capital letters,
[54:53.320 --> 54:58.320]  but...and he signed it, and then one of the things that I'm confused about
[54:58.320 --> 55:05.320]  is that I know that when I go down there, the prosecutor is not going to have signed these tickets,
[55:05.320 --> 55:08.320]  and what happened to me last time when they didn't sign the ticket...
[55:08.320 --> 55:14.320]  I went to court, the first court date, and I indicated to the judge that nobody signed the ticket,
[55:14.320 --> 55:20.320]  there's no information on file, and he told the prosecutor at that time to sign the ticket, so...
[55:20.320 --> 55:28.320]  What does the statute require? What does your due process require in regards to those tickets?
[55:28.320 --> 55:30.320]  What did you ask me?
[55:30.320 --> 55:32.320]  I said what does your due process, for instance,
[55:32.320 --> 55:37.320]  the Code of Criminal Procedure here would have made that a complete and total violation.
[55:37.320 --> 55:41.320]  However, since you're talking about signing the tickets,
[55:41.320 --> 55:45.320]  I'm assuming that in Missouri these are civil offenses?
[55:45.320 --> 55:47.320]  They're civil offenses, yes.
[55:47.320 --> 55:54.320]  Okay. So what do the rules of civil procedure in relation to these tickets
[55:54.320 --> 56:00.320]  say they're supposed to be done? How? Where? When?
[56:00.320 --> 56:06.320]  They say there's supposed to be information on file before they have a subject matter jurisdiction,
[56:06.320 --> 56:11.320]  and I guess the ticket itself is, once the prosecutor signs it,
[56:11.320 --> 56:16.320]  is the citation becomes the information, is the way I understand it.
[56:16.320 --> 56:17.320]  Sure.
[56:17.320 --> 56:23.320]  Since when is an information required in a civil proceeding?
[56:23.320 --> 56:31.320]  Informations and indictments are generally reserved for criminal proceedings.
[56:31.320 --> 56:35.320]  So if it's civil, I mean, if they do...
[56:35.320 --> 56:37.320]  So you're saying I thought that...
[56:37.320 --> 56:40.320]  I'm going to have to go back and review that statute, then, because I was...
[56:40.320 --> 56:46.320]  Find out what an information is under Missouri statute.
[56:46.320 --> 56:49.320]  I'm having a hard time finding that information.
[56:49.320 --> 56:54.320]  And another thing, I took these tickets, and I looked at your booklet,
[56:54.320 --> 57:00.320]  and I purchased your courses on the administrative hearing procedure.
[57:00.320 --> 57:03.320]  I went to our administrative hearing procedure,
[57:03.320 --> 57:08.320]  and they say that they don't have jurisdiction to cover these tickets.
[57:08.320 --> 57:13.320]  They tell me I have to prove that they have jurisdiction over these tickets.
[57:13.320 --> 57:23.320]  Okay. Who is the premier agency over the state laws that they're charging you under?
[57:23.320 --> 57:26.320]  What agency governs those chapters?
[57:26.320 --> 57:31.320]  Is it the DMV? Is it the State Highway Patrol? Who is it?
[57:31.320 --> 57:35.320]  Yeah, State Highway Patrol, which is covered by the Department of Public Safety.
[57:35.320 --> 57:39.320]  Okay. In Missouri, is the Department of Public Safety,
[57:39.320 --> 57:46.320]  according to your administrative procedures code or your administrative code,
[57:46.320 --> 57:53.320]  and every state's got one, though it may not be named precisely that, it exists somewhere,
[57:53.320 --> 57:59.320]  does the Department of Public Safety, are they listed
[57:59.320 --> 58:04.320]  and have a dedicated section within the administrative code?
[58:04.320 --> 58:08.320]  If they do, they're an administrative state agency.
[58:08.320 --> 58:14.320]  Well, the way they describe it to me is that it's under the motor carrier.
[58:14.320 --> 58:15.320]  They say it's a motor carrier.
[58:15.320 --> 58:17.320]  Okay. Well, you're not a motor carrier.
[58:17.320 --> 58:19.320]  But hang on just a sec, Charlie, and we'll finish you up on the other side.
[58:19.320 --> 58:21.320]  We're about to go to break.
[58:21.320 --> 58:24.320]  All right, folks, it is the top of the hour.
[58:24.320 --> 58:25.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[58:25.320 --> 58:32.320]  Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens, Randy Kelton, 512-646-1984 is the call-in number.
[58:32.320 --> 58:35.320]  Mary, Ron, Johnny, Hannibal, we see you on the board.
[58:35.320 --> 58:38.320]  As soon as we get back on the other side, we'll wrap it up with Charlie
[58:38.320 --> 58:40.320]  and get on with the rest of the calls.
[58:40.320 --> 58:43.320]  So, folks, if you've got a question, give us a call.
[58:43.320 --> 58:45.320]  We've only got an hour left in the show,
[58:45.320 --> 58:48.320]  and we'll get finished up with the rest of you folks just as quickly as we can.
[58:48.320 --> 58:51.320]  So please hang on and bear with us.
[58:51.320 --> 58:54.320]  This is Rule of Law Radio. We will be right back.
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[01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:11.320]  Judge Richard Goldstone apologized Friday for stating in his UN report on Israel's 2008 bombardment of Gaza
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[01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:18.320]  During the military incursion, 1,400 Palestinians were killed.
[01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:25.320]  Goldstone's change of heart comes after an 18-month campaign of character assassination against the judge.
[01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:32.320]  The UN threatened airstrikes on forces loyal to besieged Ivorian President Laurent Bagbo Monday
[01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.320]  after 11 UN peacekeeping troops were killed recently.
[01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:41.320]  France Ivory Coast's former colonizer took control of the country's main airport in Abidjan
[01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.320]  and began evacuating foreigners Sunday.
[01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:51.320]  The internationally recognized President Alassane Ouattara called for a rapid offensive on Abidjan.
[01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:58.320]  At least two people were killed and 20 injured Sunday as Afghans again protested a Koran burning by Terry Jones,
[01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:03.320]  a Christian fundamentalist preacher 7,000 miles away in the US.
[01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:10.320]  In Jalalabad, demonstrators shouted for US troops to leave and burned an effigy of Barack Obama.
[01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:18.320]  On Friday, demonstrators overran a UN mission building in Mazar-e-Sharif and killed seven foreign workers.
[01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:23.320]  The bodies of two workers have been found at Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant.
[01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:30.320]  Kazuhiko Kokubo and Yoshiki Terashima died of multiple injuries while conducting regular checks of a reactor.
[01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.320]  The bodies had to be decontaminated before they could be returned to their families.
[01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:41.320]  Fukushima workers continued to work around the clock in a bid to regain control over four severely damaged reactors.
[01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:48.320]  On Sunday, officials were attempting to seal a recently discovered crack which is leaking radiation near reactor 2.
[01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:52.320]  It followed failed attempts to use concrete to close the crack,
[01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:58.320]  which is believed to have led to radiation leakage into runoff water that flows into the sea.
[01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:05.320]  The latest samples of contaminated seawater showed radiation levels at 4,000 times the legal limit.
[01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:09.320]  Nabil Rajab, president of Bahrain's Center for Human Rights,
[01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:16.320]  says the US media have been ordered not to cover news on the government's brutal crackdown of Bahraini protesters.
[01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:23.320]  Reports from the center's colleagues in the US say US news agencies and TV stations were asked not to report on Bahrain
[01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.320]  so as not to embarrass the Obama administration.
[01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:32.320]  Rajab added the US and the Western governments were keeping silent over atrocities in Bahrain
[01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:36.320]  due to their support for the country's authoritarian regime.
[01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:45.320]  At least 25 people have been killed, 1,000 injured, and 420 people arrested in government crackdowns on peaceful demonstrators.
[01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:51.320]  Protesters are demanding the ouster of the 200-year-old monarchy as well as constitutional reforms.
[01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:56.320]  Joined recently by police and troops from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates,
[01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:22.320]  Bahraini government forces have launched a deadly crackdown.
[01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:34.320]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty
[01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:41.320]  I read his book and it says he cares not for the unsightly
[01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:48.320]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio 512-646-9884 is the call-in number.
[01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:55.320]  We have several callers up on the board. We've got an hour left in the show, so please get up there and give us a call if you have any questions.
[01:03:55.320 --> 01:04:02.320]  I will try to get to you as quickly as possible. Alright, Charlie, let's get you wrapped up here.
[01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:07.320]  Okay. Do you know where we left off?
[01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:12.320]  We left off with you trying to figure out what an information is.
[01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:18.320]  Yeah, that's one thing, yeah. But I'll research that. I thought in the civil case they had to have information.
[01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:23.320]  In the civil case, then they'd have to have an injured party, it would seem to me.
[01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:28.320]  Well, in any case, now I don't know what they'll call them in the individual states,
[01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:35.320]  but every case, civil or criminal, is initiated by a complaint.
[01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:43.320]  But only in a criminal case is there to be a charging instrument that must accompany that complaint.
[01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:52.320]  And in Texas they are called indictments if it's by a grand jury and information if it's by an attorney for the state.
[01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:57.320]  Well, I think they use the citation and the complaint as the same thing.
[01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.320]  You need to look in law and see if that's allowed by law.
[01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:09.320]  They try to do that here, too, and that's not what our Constitution allows the court to use to vest itself with jurisdiction.
[01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:15.320]  First rule, always check the Constitution against what you're being charged with.
[01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:23.320]  When they don't jail, guess which one's supposed to win.
[01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.320]  I will check out.
[01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:30.320]  The other thing I was asking about is this administrative proceedings, the procedure.
[01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.320]  They're telling me that they don't have...
[01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.320]  You're talking about something a different animal here.
[01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.320]  You're saying the proceeding is civil, which takes it out of administrative.
[01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:41.320]  It does.
[01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.320]  You need to clarify which one you're dealing with.
[01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.320]  Okay.
[01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.320]  I think I'm dealing with two things here.
[01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:55.320]  Because I had a role play on a car, that might be criminal, because that was a law.
[01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.320]  Well, being a law doesn't necessarily make it criminal.
[01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:00.320]  Okay.
[01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:06.320]  A law can have a civil penalty or a criminal penalty or an administrative penalty.
[01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.320]  Okay.
[01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:10.320]  All right.
[01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:11.320]  Well, I got the reason.
[01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.320]  I understand who it applies to and how it's written to begin with.
[01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:21.320]  The question you need to be asking yourself is, did the law apply to you in the first place?
[01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.320]  Now, if you'll check your Missouri Constitution,
[01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:31.320]  I'm quite sure you're going to find that it says that only your legislature can pass law.
[01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.320]  Your city cannot.
[01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:35.320]  Your county cannot.
[01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:44.320]  Therefore, ordinances cannot be used against the people for those purposes,
[01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:49.320]  because an ordinance is not law-binding upon the people,
[01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:55.320]  unless they're a city employee or a contractor with the city.
[01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:01.320]  What if the ordinance can be tracked back through to an enacting clause?
[01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:07.320]  Then you need to find out if the state law upon which the ordinance is based was written to apply
[01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:13.320]  to a commercial activity versus a private citizen.
[01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:14.320]  Great.
[01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:18.320]  Because, again, applicability is everything.
[01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:20.320]  Gotcha.
[01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:21.320]  Okay.
[01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.320]  So it's time to do a little digging and researching.
[01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:25.320]  All right.
[01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:27.320]  And no more assumptions.
[01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:28.320]  I'll let you know.
[01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:29.320]  All right.
[01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.320]  Good luck.
[01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:32.320]  Thanks, Eddie.
[01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:33.320]  You're welcome.
[01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:34.320]  Thanks, Charlie.
[01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:35.320]  All right.
[01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:38.320]  Now we have Mary in Texas.
[01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:39.320]  Good evening, Mary.
[01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:40.320]  What can we do for you?
[01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:41.320]  Good evening.
[01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:45.320]  Well, I just wanted to tell Deborah what a good speech she made a couple weeks ago
[01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.320]  in front of the Criminal Jurisprudence Committee.
[01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:49.320]  Oh, thank you, Mary.
[01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:50.320]  Oh, you did excellent.
[01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.320]  How long did you spend writing that thing?
[01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.320]  I don't know.
[01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.320]  It was kind of mostly a rant off the top of my head.
[01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.320]  I went into the hearing.
[01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:00.320]  I didn't even know what I was going to say.
[01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.320]  And so I sat there while I was listening to other bills,
[01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:04.320]  and I wrote it down on a piece of paper.
[01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.320]  I don't know, maybe half an hour or so.
[01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:07.320]  Oh, that's great.
[01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:11.320]  You know, so many of our friends get excellent speeches.
[01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:18.320]  And just to hear their speeches alone was highly educational and really positive.
[01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:21.320]  We really hang out with a lot of smart folks.
[01:08:21.320 --> 01:08:22.320]  Absolutely.
[01:08:22.320 --> 01:08:24.320]  I was very impressed by everyone's speech.
[01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:27.320]  And you made a great speech, too, Mary.
[01:08:27.320 --> 01:08:28.320]  Thank you.
[01:08:28.320 --> 01:08:36.320]  I've learned to not say and or but or uh as much.
[01:08:36.320 --> 01:08:40.320]  I kept it simple.
[01:08:40.320 --> 01:08:42.320]  So yeah, and I have to thank David Simpson.
[01:08:42.320 --> 01:08:43.320]  He's one of the representatives.
[01:08:43.320 --> 01:08:45.320]  This is his first year.
[01:08:45.320 --> 01:08:48.320]  He's a freshman, and he wrote House Bill 1937.
[01:08:48.320 --> 01:08:52.320]  It was called, it's about relating to the offensive touching of persons
[01:08:52.320 --> 01:09:00.320]  seeking access to public buildings and transportation, semicolon, providing penalties.
[01:09:00.320 --> 01:09:02.320]  And he's a really nice guy.
[01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:04.320]  He seems to be in line with Ron Paul.
[01:09:04.320 --> 01:09:09.320]  He came to TAG meeting about a month ago and gave an excellent speech.
[01:09:09.320 --> 01:09:16.320]  He is, I don't know if he's a Toastmaster or he's a very good speaker.
[01:09:16.320 --> 01:09:22.320]  And I really encourage everybody to go up there and at least just, you know, go to Goodwill,
[01:09:22.320 --> 01:09:26.320]  buy yourself a suit, and come on up and sit down and watch everybody.
[01:09:26.320 --> 01:09:30.320]  And I guarantee you, you'll have a lot of rewards for doing that.
[01:09:30.320 --> 01:09:33.320]  Are you going to go to the Transportation Committee hearing on Wednesday, Mary?
[01:09:33.320 --> 01:09:35.320]  Well, I'm going to try.
[01:09:35.320 --> 01:09:38.320]  We've been real busy lately, so.
[01:09:38.320 --> 01:09:39.320]  All right.
[01:09:39.320 --> 01:09:43.320]  Well, you heard me talk about how we're going to do a TAG team on Wednesday,
[01:09:43.320 --> 01:09:44.320]  Heather, Fazio, and I.
[01:09:44.320 --> 01:09:47.320]  She's going to be there in the morning.
[01:09:47.320 --> 01:09:48.320]  I'll be there in the afternoon.
[01:09:48.320 --> 01:09:50.320]  So I'll send you a text message if you want.
[01:09:50.320 --> 01:09:51.320]  Yeah, I would like that.
[01:09:51.320 --> 01:09:57.320]  And if anyone wants to be in that loop, feel free to call me or get my number from the bookstore,
[01:09:57.320 --> 01:09:59.320]  Heather, a lot of times.
[01:09:59.320 --> 01:10:00.320]  Heather will send out e-mails.
[01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:03.320]  So if you have an iPhone or something, that's helpful.
[01:10:03.320 --> 01:10:07.320]  I know you probably waited there 14 hours about.
[01:10:07.320 --> 01:10:09.320]  Well, no, not quite that long.
[01:10:09.320 --> 01:10:11.320]  I was in and out all day long.
[01:10:11.320 --> 01:10:15.320]  I went there and then I had to leave, then I came back, then I had to leave again,
[01:10:15.320 --> 01:10:18.320]  and then I started hooking up with other people that were there like Heather,
[01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:19.320]  and I said, look, I've got to go.
[01:10:19.320 --> 01:10:22.320]  I have to run radio shows.
[01:10:22.320 --> 01:10:27.320]  Send me a text message if they hear the bill so I can find a volunteer real quick.
[01:10:27.320 --> 01:10:29.320]  Yeah, it's a good thing I wasn't up there to give a speech,
[01:10:29.320 --> 01:10:32.320]  because I know exactly how I would have opened mine.
[01:10:32.320 --> 01:10:37.320]  I understand some of you are freshman first-time office holders,
[01:10:37.320 --> 01:10:40.320]  and the rest of you are repeat offenders.
[01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:45.320]  Yeah, and so many people did wait there for a very, very long time.
[01:10:45.320 --> 01:10:48.320]  There were people that did wait there like all day long.
[01:10:48.320 --> 01:10:51.320]  Jerry waited there for like four or five hours too.
[01:10:51.320 --> 01:10:58.320]  Yeah, one of the speakers that Mr. Simpson had come down who had made national news
[01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:03.320]  from the TSA assault in the Austin airport,
[01:11:03.320 --> 01:11:08.320]  she got down there about 8.30 in the morning, poor lady, and she took a taxi home.
[01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:10.320]  A lot of dedicated people come out,
[01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:18.320]  and you'll basically be reinvigorated with the sincerity and passion of all your friends, guys,
[01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:22.320]  but also watching the opposition is half the fun.
[01:11:22.320 --> 01:11:28.320]  In the elections committee and other committees, when I court-watched against Rick Perry,
[01:11:28.320 --> 01:11:36.320]  watching the opposition reaffirms your vision and my vision when we see the stuff
[01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:43.320]  that these guys are trying to communicate with and their styles of communication.
[01:11:43.320 --> 01:11:46.320]  It's really where the fight is.
[01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:48.320]  Oh, Mary, you are absolutely right.
[01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:56.320]  In fact, I had intended on putting together a collage of pieces of the speeches that people made,
[01:11:56.320 --> 01:12:01.320]  including one of the, that one lady, you know who I'm talking about, Mary.
[01:12:01.320 --> 01:12:02.320]  The dance lady.
[01:12:02.320 --> 01:12:11.320]  The one lady who got up there to speak against the bill, she was, folks, she was absolutely outrageous.
[01:12:11.320 --> 01:12:16.320]  This is, she was obviously a product of mainstream media, complete brainwashing,
[01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:21.320]  and she's like, well, you know, and she was really rude to people like,
[01:12:21.320 --> 01:12:24.320]  I thought she was extremely rude to people who were like victims of sexual assault
[01:12:24.320 --> 01:12:27.320]  who had previously gotten up and testified and stuff, and she's like,
[01:12:27.320 --> 01:12:33.320]  oh, if it bothers you for people, these agents, to put their hands down your pants, just get over it.
[01:12:33.320 --> 01:12:36.320]  You know, I don't like going to the gynecologist either,
[01:12:36.320 --> 01:12:39.320]  but I just chalk it up in the same category as a headache.
[01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:42.320]  You know, if you don't like it, you know, go see a shrink or something.
[01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:47.320]  I mean, I looked over at that woman who had testified who had been a victim of sexual assault.
[01:12:47.320 --> 01:12:50.320]  Our jaws hit the floor.
[01:12:50.320 --> 01:12:54.320]  I could not believe how crass that woman was and how unfeeling, and she's like,
[01:12:54.320 --> 01:12:58.320]  well, you know, we have to be safe, and I do a lot of traveling,
[01:12:58.320 --> 01:13:03.320]  and I got to tell you, you know, there's a lot of terrorist threats all over the world,
[01:13:03.320 --> 01:13:07.320]  and I may not like it very much them putting their hands all over me,
[01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:12.320]  but I don't, I wouldn't like getting blown to smithereenies either.
[01:13:12.320 --> 01:13:16.320]  I was just, I mean, the whole place, I mean, there was like 50 people in the room,
[01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:18.320]  and we were just guffawing.
[01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:22.320]  I mean, it was like we couldn't contain ourselves with gasps, and she turns around and she goes,
[01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:24.320]  yeah, I hear y'all laughing back there.
[01:13:24.320 --> 01:13:25.320]  I know y'all laughing at me.
[01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:26.320]  I don't care.
[01:13:26.320 --> 01:13:29.320]  I mean, it was, she was outrageous, Mary.
[01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:31.320]  We're not laughing at you, lady.
[01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:33.320]  We're taking pity.
[01:13:33.320 --> 01:13:35.320]  Oh, God, we got to put her on video.
[01:13:35.320 --> 01:13:37.320]  Everyone, y'all have to see her.
[01:13:37.320 --> 01:13:40.320]  She was just like Stuart's mom on Mad TV.
[01:13:40.320 --> 01:13:44.320]  She was a hoot, actually, once we got used to it, and she stayed behind,
[01:13:44.320 --> 01:13:49.320]  and I told Mr. Simpson and one of the really well-spoken friends of ours to please talk with her.
[01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:56.320]  So her and the Marine from the 9-11 Gulf security,
[01:13:56.320 --> 01:14:02.320]  her and this two diametrically opposed folks were talking afterwards,
[01:14:02.320 --> 01:14:05.320]  but I made sure she overheard some of our conversations.
[01:14:05.320 --> 01:14:08.320]  But you guys, this is just like Stuart's mom on Mad TV.
[01:14:08.320 --> 01:14:09.320]  She was...
[01:14:09.320 --> 01:14:12.320]  Well, yeah, and you can listen to her rap.
[01:14:12.320 --> 01:14:20.320]  You can go to the House website, and they record video and audio of all these committee hearings,
[01:14:20.320 --> 01:14:26.320]  and I have already downloaded the full 14 hours from that committee hearing,
[01:14:26.320 --> 01:14:30.320]  and if you scroll towards the end, because they heard this bill at 11 p.m.,
[01:14:30.320 --> 01:14:34.320]  you can hear everyone's speeches, including mine and Mary's and crazy ladies.
[01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:37.320]  Well, we need to pick out some of her stuff and air it on the radio.
[01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:38.320]  I'm going to.
[01:14:38.320 --> 01:14:39.320]  I planned on it.
[01:14:39.320 --> 01:14:40.320]  I just haven't got a chance to do it yet.
[01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:46.320]  This lady is scared because of the stuff that happened on 9-11, you guys.
[01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:47.320]  I know.
[01:14:47.320 --> 01:14:48.320]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:14:48.320 --> 01:14:53.320]  Oh, and I think she heard the PSA that I had made, too, because she's like,
[01:14:53.320 --> 01:14:55.320]  I was just hearing something on the radio,
[01:14:55.320 --> 01:15:00.320]  and I heard some lady saying to get down here to testify in favor of this bill,
[01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:05.320]  and she's like, and I had to come down here and speak against it, and she said,
[01:15:05.320 --> 01:15:06.320]  and you know what?
[01:15:06.320 --> 01:15:08.320]  I guess everybody must have known about this.
[01:15:08.320 --> 01:15:10.320]  Well, if I had known ahead of time,
[01:15:10.320 --> 01:15:14.320]  I would have gotten all my friends down here, too, to testify against this bill,
[01:15:14.320 --> 01:15:15.320]  and I'm like, well, lady, you know,
[01:15:15.320 --> 01:15:19.320]  it's your responsibility to be on top of what the legislature is doing.
[01:15:19.320 --> 01:15:24.320]  I don't think a roomful of cats would have given her much support.
[01:15:24.320 --> 01:15:25.320]  Why didn't I know about it?
[01:15:25.320 --> 01:15:30.320]  Well, because you guys are too busy going on these carnival cruises to Hawaii
[01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:32.320]  and Alaska, and I know these people.
[01:15:32.320 --> 01:15:34.320]  They don't want to be interrupted during their retirement.
[01:15:34.320 --> 01:15:37.320]  They've already put in their slave years.
[01:15:37.320 --> 01:15:38.320]  Right.
[01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:39.320]  All right.
[01:15:39.320 --> 01:15:41.320]  Well, do you have anything else for us, Mary?
[01:15:41.320 --> 01:15:42.320]  Oh, yeah, definitely.
[01:15:42.320 --> 01:15:44.320]  But again, you gave an excellent speech.
[01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:50.320]  Everyone, please come down and support your friends and just listen and be re-inspired.
[01:15:50.320 --> 01:15:56.320]  So number two is Harlan at Brave New Books and Randy Kelton.
[01:15:56.320 --> 01:15:58.320]  They've agreed on April 30th.
[01:15:58.320 --> 01:16:00.320]  It's a Saturday to do a lecture.
[01:16:00.320 --> 01:16:05.320]  Randy is at Brave New Books on grand jury issues,
[01:16:05.320 --> 01:16:08.320]  which brings me to a quick question for you, Debbie,
[01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:13.320]  is how did you get involved with rule of law and jurisdictionary and all this stuff?
[01:16:13.320 --> 01:16:18.320]  I mean, were you looking into grand juries to help the vote fraud community?
[01:16:18.320 --> 01:16:19.320]  Right.
[01:16:19.320 --> 01:16:22.320]  Yeah, and actually, well, Randy's been kind of out of touch lately.
[01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:23.320]  He's been out of town.
[01:16:23.320 --> 01:16:24.320]  I didn't know he had done this,
[01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:29.320]  but I suppose I've already been conscripted into it without my consent
[01:16:29.320 --> 01:16:34.320]  because I have a seminar that I teach on grand juries also.
[01:16:34.320 --> 01:16:35.320]  Oh, cool.
[01:16:35.320 --> 01:16:39.320]  So I suppose I'll be giving that seminar.
[01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:43.320]  It's about an hour and a half, two-hour seminar.
[01:16:43.320 --> 01:16:44.320]  All right.
[01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:46.320]  Well, Mary, anything else for you?
[01:16:46.320 --> 01:16:47.320]  Anything else tonight?
[01:16:47.320 --> 01:16:48.320]  Yeah, hold me over.
[01:16:48.320 --> 01:16:49.320]  I've got one more quick announcement.
[01:16:49.320 --> 01:16:50.320]  Okay, all right, great.
[01:16:50.320 --> 01:16:51.320]  We'll be right back with Mary.
[01:16:51.320 --> 01:16:53.320]  We've got Ron, Johnny, Hannibal, Curtis.
[01:16:53.320 --> 01:17:00.320]  We'll be right back, folks.
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[01:19:01.320 --> 01:19:25.320]  I ain't gonna blame me I ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:25.320 --> 01:19:33.320]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plan You put the fear in my pocket
[01:19:33.320 --> 01:19:42.320]  Took the money from my hand Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:45.320]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[01:19:45.320 --> 01:19:48.320]  Okay, I just did some quick coordination with Randy
[01:19:48.320 --> 01:19:52.320]  because he's been a little bit out of pocket concerning this grand jury presentation class
[01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:56.320]  that we're gonna make and we have to reschedule, folks.
[01:19:56.320 --> 01:20:02.320]  I'm sorry, but April 30th is Eeyore's birthday party here in Austin
[01:20:02.320 --> 01:20:06.320]  and for those of you that know what Eeyore's is, you know we're not gonna miss it.
[01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:11.320]  So, sorry, the last Saturday of April is Eeyore's where everyone goes down
[01:20:11.320 --> 01:20:16.320]  and plays drums and dances and just has a good old time, spring festival every year.
[01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:19.320]  I'm always in the middle of the drum circle every year.
[01:20:19.320 --> 01:20:22.320]  So, folks, no, we're not gonna miss Eeyore's.
[01:20:22.320 --> 01:20:26.320]  Sorry, but we're not gonna miss a grand jury class and miss Eeyore's.
[01:20:26.320 --> 01:20:30.320]  So, anyway, we will reschedule for some other time in April or May.
[01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:31.320]  We'll let you know.
[01:20:31.320 --> 01:20:32.320]  All right, go ahead, Mary.
[01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:33.320]  What else you got for us?
[01:20:33.320 --> 01:20:38.320]  I just want to invite everybody down to read new books on Tuesdays from 7 to 9.
[01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:41.320]  I lead the local jurisdiction and users group.
[01:20:41.320 --> 01:20:48.320]  Guests and newcomers are always welcome to watch the class or to watch the meeting.
[01:20:48.320 --> 01:20:53.320]  We basically just review the jurisdictionary material and that's it.
[01:20:53.320 --> 01:20:55.320]  We really don't do a lot of cross-talking.
[01:20:55.320 --> 01:21:02.320]  It's just a chance for us to study the jurisdictionary together, 7 and 9 at Read New Books.
[01:21:02.320 --> 01:21:03.320]  Come on down.
[01:21:03.320 --> 01:21:04.320]  All right, thank you, Mary.
[01:21:04.320 --> 01:21:05.320]  Thank you.
[01:21:05.320 --> 01:21:06.320]  All righty.
[01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:07.320]  All right, we are going now.
[01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:10.320]  We've got other calls on the line.
[01:21:10.320 --> 01:21:13.320]  We've got, let's see, who is up next?
[01:21:13.320 --> 01:21:16.320]  We've got Ron, Johnny, Curtis, and Hannibal.
[01:21:16.320 --> 01:21:20.320]  We're going to have to go move through your calls quickly, folks, in order to get through everything.
[01:21:20.320 --> 01:21:23.320]  Ron from California, what is your question for us tonight?
[01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:24.320]  Hello?
[01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:26.320]  Yes, please go ahead, Ron.
[01:21:26.320 --> 01:21:27.320]  Okay.
[01:21:27.320 --> 01:21:29.320]  Yeah, I'm still trying to get my driver's license.
[01:21:29.320 --> 01:21:39.320]  I don't know if you all remember me, but I went to the DMV today and they tell me that I need to get an SR22 because of this.
[01:21:39.320 --> 01:21:42.320]  There was a DUI a couple years ago.
[01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:46.320]  And they told me I need to get an SR22 because I refused.
[01:21:46.320 --> 01:21:51.320]  The police officer said I refused to complete the test.
[01:21:51.320 --> 01:21:59.320]  Now, this DUI charge had got dropped down to a wet and reckless, and they threw out this refusal charge.
[01:21:59.320 --> 01:22:03.320]  So I informed the DMV of that, and they said it doesn't matter.
[01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:07.320]  So I still needed to take this SR22.
[01:22:07.320 --> 01:22:10.320]  I had the evidence and everything from the court.
[01:22:10.320 --> 01:22:14.320]  I went down to court and asked them for an abstract, and they said they couldn't do it.
[01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:20.320]  They said it's an administration pro se law with the DMV.
[01:22:20.320 --> 01:22:31.320]  And then the other part of this whole situation was when he gave me this charge, the DUI, I had an older California license before,
[01:22:31.320 --> 01:22:37.320]  but at the moment when I got this DUI charge, my license was from out of state.
[01:22:37.320 --> 01:22:42.320]  He failed to put the DUI charge on my out of state license, which was in my possession at the time,
[01:22:42.320 --> 01:22:47.320]  and he put the charge on the California, on the canceled California license.
[01:22:47.320 --> 01:22:53.320]  So I just want to know what do you think I should do about this situation?
[01:22:53.320 --> 01:22:57.320]  Well, the first thing is, are you a commercial driver?
[01:22:57.320 --> 01:22:59.320]  No.
[01:22:59.320 --> 01:23:03.320]  Okay, then what do you want a license for anyway?
[01:23:03.320 --> 01:23:10.320]  Well, because I'm in an apprenticeship program, in order for me to be in this program, I need to have a license.
[01:23:10.320 --> 01:23:11.320]  That's their rule.
[01:23:11.320 --> 01:23:12.320]  I called them last week.
[01:23:12.320 --> 01:23:15.320]  I'll tell you guys about that.
[01:23:15.320 --> 01:23:25.320]  Okay, then what is the availability of getting the license back from your state that you moved from?
[01:23:25.320 --> 01:23:27.320]  No, I still have that license.
[01:23:27.320 --> 01:23:33.320]  I'm trying, my apprenticeship program is forcing me to get my California license because I reside here now.
[01:23:33.320 --> 01:23:36.320]  Okay, well, here's your problem.
[01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:41.320]  If they've done what you're talking about, then what they've done is an administrative determination of guilt
[01:23:41.320 --> 01:23:47.320]  for which there is no criminal punishment and no criminal decision to punish.
[01:23:47.320 --> 01:23:52.320]  By definition, that is a bill of attainder.
[01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:59.320]  So the only thing you're going to be able to do is to sue the agency that's demanding you do this.
[01:23:59.320 --> 01:24:04.320]  It's the only option you've got, and of course, that takes time.
[01:24:04.320 --> 01:24:07.320]  Right, which is the DMV, right?
[01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:08.320]  Right.
[01:24:08.320 --> 01:24:17.320]  So the first thing you need to do is to send the notice of tort to the DMV, tell them that these charges were never levied against me.
[01:24:17.320 --> 01:24:18.320]  They were dropped.
[01:24:18.320 --> 01:24:21.320]  There's never been an adjudication to this.
[01:24:21.320 --> 01:24:28.320]  You are trying to force money out of me through an administrative procedure that has no judicial foundation.
[01:24:28.320 --> 01:24:30.320]  Okay.
[01:24:30.320 --> 01:24:44.320]  That's a bill of attainder, and as such, I'm going to sue you and everyone in the department associated with this issue until someone relents.
[01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:46.320]  All right.
[01:24:46.320 --> 01:24:56.320]  And as far as that officer that first charged me on the canceled California license, shouldn't my lawyer have picked that up and got the case dismissed?
[01:24:56.320 --> 01:25:00.320]  Yeah, but when you say canceled, how was it canceled?
[01:25:00.320 --> 01:25:07.320]  It was canceled because I had a prior DUI, and I moved out of state, and they had requirements for me to go to DUI school.
[01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:09.320]  So I called them when I was out of state.
[01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:11.320]  I said, look, I don't even live in California anymore.
[01:25:11.320 --> 01:25:12.320]  How can I go to DUI school?
[01:25:12.320 --> 01:25:16.320]  And they said, okay, well, we can cancel your license. It's going to be a one-time thing.
[01:25:16.320 --> 01:25:18.320]  And basically, that's what they did.
[01:25:18.320 --> 01:25:20.320]  They canceled my license that way.
[01:25:20.320 --> 01:25:24.320]  And I was able to go to another state and get a license, which was a clean record.
[01:25:24.320 --> 01:25:28.320]  There was no history or nothing whatsoever on it.
[01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:29.320]  Okay.
[01:25:29.320 --> 01:25:32.320]  Then how are they maintaining that history in California if there was no conviction?
[01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:34.320]  Were you convicted of that DUI?
[01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:36.320]  Yeah, yeah, I was at that time.
[01:25:36.320 --> 01:25:39.320]  Then that's how they're doing it.
[01:25:39.320 --> 01:25:44.320]  If you were convicted of that original DUI, that's how they're doing it.
[01:25:44.320 --> 01:25:48.320]  So the bill of attainder argument no longer applies.
[01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:51.320]  You are still on – what was the timeframe of this?
[01:25:51.320 --> 01:25:52.320]  When did it happen?
[01:25:52.320 --> 01:26:02.320]  The original DUI was in 04, but this one that recently that they're trying to say I refused was in 09.
[01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:06.320]  And that was dropped down to a wet and wet record, like I said.
[01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:10.320]  But the cops – I was visiting, though, in California at the time when I got this DUI,
[01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:12.320]  and I had my out-of-state license.
[01:26:12.320 --> 01:26:14.320]  You see what I'm saying?
[01:26:14.320 --> 01:26:15.320]  Okay.
[01:26:15.320 --> 01:26:20.320]  If this is a different incident and issue, then the bill of attainder would still apply.
[01:26:20.320 --> 01:26:21.320]  Yeah, it's a different incident.
[01:26:21.320 --> 01:26:22.320]  It's completely different.
[01:26:22.320 --> 01:26:23.320]  Okay.
[01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:26.320]  Then go with that and get busy on it.
[01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:27.320]  Okay.
[01:26:27.320 --> 01:26:30.320]  But as far – what I'm asking is as far as, like, the police officer and that whole case,
[01:26:30.320 --> 01:26:34.320]  because they – my lawyer pretty much told me you need to plead because I didn't want to plead
[01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:37.320]  because I knew I was – it was a situation.
[01:26:37.320 --> 01:26:42.320]  It was just a trumped-up charge, a DUI in itself, because I was not DUI, you know.
[01:26:42.320 --> 01:26:44.320]  But my lawyer, he was like, you need to just go –
[01:26:44.320 --> 01:26:45.320]  And you shouldn't have pleaded.
[01:26:45.320 --> 01:26:49.320]  You should have fought, and you should have made your attorney fight,
[01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:54.320]  and you should have bar-greed him every time he opened his mouth about taking a plea
[01:26:54.320 --> 01:26:56.320]  for something you weren't guilty of.
[01:26:56.320 --> 01:26:57.320]  But –
[01:26:57.320 --> 01:27:03.320]  You always have that choice, and the choices you make have consequences.
[01:27:03.320 --> 01:27:06.320]  Now you're staring one of them right in the face.
[01:27:06.320 --> 01:27:08.320]  Right.
[01:27:08.320 --> 01:27:12.320]  So there's no way to go back against that plea, huh?
[01:27:12.320 --> 01:27:17.320]  Not if you've gone to court and settled for the other issues, no.
[01:27:17.320 --> 01:27:21.320]  You basically said, okay, fine, if you won't find me guilty of that,
[01:27:21.320 --> 01:27:24.320]  I'll agree to let you do this to me.
[01:27:24.320 --> 01:27:27.320]  Well, now they're doing it, and now you want to argue.
[01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:29.320]  That's not going to work.
[01:27:29.320 --> 01:27:30.320]  Okay.
[01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:33.320]  You should have beat the crap out of your attorney in the first place
[01:27:33.320 --> 01:27:35.320]  for even suggesting it.
[01:27:35.320 --> 01:27:36.320]  Yeah, I know.
[01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:40.320]  Well, he was trying to charge me, you know, extra for trial and all that stuff.
[01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:42.320]  So it's all right.
[01:27:42.320 --> 01:27:43.320]  Okay.
[01:27:43.320 --> 01:27:44.320]  I'm going to say it again, folks.
[01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:47.320]  There is nothing wrong with an attorney that a length of chain,
[01:27:47.320 --> 01:27:51.320]  a heavy anchor, and a deep body of water won't solve.
[01:27:51.320 --> 01:27:52.320]  Okay?
[01:27:52.320 --> 01:27:57.320]  Don't trust an attorney to do what's best for you.
[01:27:57.320 --> 01:27:59.320]  It's not going to happen.
[01:27:59.320 --> 01:28:01.320]  Yeah, I'm hearing that now.
[01:28:01.320 --> 01:28:03.320]  I just got one more comment, though.
[01:28:03.320 --> 01:28:04.320]  I've been listening to you guys.
[01:28:04.320 --> 01:28:06.320]  It seems like you guys got a solid team out there in Texas.
[01:28:06.320 --> 01:28:10.320]  You know, I'm trying to educate myself on this situation myself,
[01:28:10.320 --> 01:28:14.320]  but it's like, do you know anybody out here in the Bay Area that, you know,
[01:28:14.320 --> 01:28:16.320]  any groups or anything like that?
[01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:19.320]  Go on YouTube and do a search for Tactical Guy.
[01:28:19.320 --> 01:28:21.320]  His name is Rick.
[01:28:21.320 --> 01:28:22.320]  He's posting on YouTube.
[01:28:22.320 --> 01:28:25.320]  He is giving them hell and what for out there in California
[01:28:25.320 --> 01:28:29.320]  over the traffic issues of all kinds.
[01:28:29.320 --> 01:28:32.320]  Yeah.
[01:28:32.320 --> 01:28:34.320]  And Debra, can you tell them how to spell that?
[01:28:34.320 --> 01:28:41.320]  Yeah, it's Tactical, and it's T-A-C-T-I-K-A-L,
[01:28:41.320 --> 01:28:44.320]  Tactical with a K at the call.
[01:28:44.320 --> 01:28:45.320]  Okay.
[01:28:45.320 --> 01:28:46.320]  Oh, that's that guy Rick.
[01:28:46.320 --> 01:28:48.320]  I think he got getting his info a couple weeks ago.
[01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:49.320]  Yeah.
[01:28:49.320 --> 01:28:51.320]  I've been trying to get a hold of him, but now.
[01:28:51.320 --> 01:28:53.320]  Yeah, and you're probably not the only one.
[01:28:53.320 --> 01:28:56.320]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:28:56.320 --> 01:28:58.320]  Okay, well, as far as what you said, the bill of attainder then,
[01:28:58.320 --> 01:29:01.320]  hunt, go that route with the DMV.
[01:29:01.320 --> 01:29:02.320]  Right.
[01:29:02.320 --> 01:29:06.320]  And then in the meantime, just go ahead and get the SR-22.
[01:29:06.320 --> 01:29:10.320]  Well, you can throw the bill of attainder issue out.
[01:29:10.320 --> 01:29:13.320]  You agreed to the consequences of what you pled to.
[01:29:13.320 --> 01:29:17.320]  The SR-22 is one of the consequences.
[01:29:17.320 --> 01:29:18.320]  Yeah, let me get you.
[01:29:18.320 --> 01:29:19.320]  You're not getting around it.
[01:29:19.320 --> 01:29:20.320]  Sorry.
[01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:22.320]  Well, no, the thing is, no, no, no, this is what I'm saying.
[01:29:22.320 --> 01:29:26.320]  They're throwing the SR-22 because they said I refused.
[01:29:26.320 --> 01:29:32.320]  Now, when I went to court, that refusal charge was dropped.
[01:29:32.320 --> 01:29:37.320]  Okay, then they have no legal claim on the refusals.
[01:29:37.320 --> 01:29:39.320]  Now you can make the argument.
[01:29:39.320 --> 01:29:43.320]  As long as that's true, if it was not in your plea bargain,
[01:29:43.320 --> 01:29:46.320]  how that holds true, you can go after them.
[01:29:46.320 --> 01:29:48.320]  Yeah, because I pled to a wet and reckless.
[01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:50.320]  That's what it was.
[01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:51.320]  Okay.
[01:29:51.320 --> 01:29:52.320]  All right, Rob.
[01:29:52.320 --> 01:29:53.320]  Well, good luck with that.
[01:29:53.320 --> 01:29:54.320]  All right.
[01:29:54.320 --> 01:29:55.320]  All right, all right, folks.
[01:29:55.320 --> 01:29:57.320]  We'll be right back on the other side of the break.
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[01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:16.320]  Jerk chicken, vegetarian restaurant.
[01:30:16.320 --> 01:30:19.320]  Monday through Wednesday, lunch and dinner, $5.
[01:30:19.320 --> 01:30:22.320]  Friday and Saturday, we got late night with Emperor Sound Crew.
[01:30:22.320 --> 01:30:24.320]  Still $5 place.
[01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:30.320]  Jerk chicken and vegetarian place to beat One Love Kitchen, Austin, Texas.
[01:30:30.320 --> 01:30:32.320]  Passing on knowledge is an age-old tradition,
[01:30:32.320 --> 01:30:34.320]  but in our over-regulated society,
[01:30:34.320 --> 01:30:39.320]  authorities are threatening to shut down training classes ranging from acting to yoga.
[01:30:39.320 --> 01:30:40.320]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht,
[01:30:40.320 --> 01:30:44.320]  and I'll be back in a moment to tell you how some instructors are fighting back.
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[01:31:14.320 --> 01:31:16.320]  Yoga teachers.
[01:31:16.320 --> 01:31:18.320]  We think of them as flexible and easygoing,
[01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:20.320]  but they recently took bureaucrats to the mat,
[01:31:20.320 --> 01:31:22.320]  and I don't mean the yoga mat.
[01:31:22.320 --> 01:31:25.320]  They marched on the Texas Capitol to oppose the government's interference
[01:31:25.320 --> 01:31:28.320]  in their teaching practices, and who could blame them?
[01:31:28.320 --> 01:31:31.320]  Regulators had raided their yoga studios and threatened them with fines
[01:31:31.320 --> 01:31:34.320]  unless they submitted to a burdensome certification process
[01:31:34.320 --> 01:31:37.320]  and paid up to three grand for the privilege.
[01:31:37.320 --> 01:31:40.320]  Their defiance inspired some rule changes, but Texas is not alone.
[01:31:40.320 --> 01:31:44.320]  Even dog training lessons may be subject to regulation where you live.
[01:31:44.320 --> 01:31:47.320]  So join me in opposing unreasonable government control
[01:31:47.320 --> 01:31:51.320]  over the people who share their knowledge and experience with the rest of us.
[01:31:51.320 --> 01:31:53.320]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:31:53.320 --> 01:32:20.320]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:32:20.320 --> 01:32:22.320]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[01:32:22.320 --> 01:32:24.320]  We have half an hour left here on Monday night,
[01:32:24.320 --> 01:32:29.320]  Eddie's night, traffic night, but we will take calls on other issues as well.
[01:32:29.320 --> 01:32:31.320]  We've got Hannibal from New York.
[01:32:31.320 --> 01:32:32.320]  Hannibal, go ahead.
[01:32:32.320 --> 01:32:38.320]  What is your question or comment for us tonight?
[01:32:38.320 --> 01:32:40.320]  Hey, what's up?
[01:32:40.320 --> 01:32:44.320]  I called last week, was it?
[01:32:44.320 --> 01:32:47.320]  Friday?
[01:32:47.320 --> 01:32:48.320]  Okay.
[01:32:48.320 --> 01:32:50.320]  Hello?
[01:32:50.320 --> 01:32:51.320]  Yeah, we hear you.
[01:32:51.320 --> 01:32:52.320]  Go ahead.
[01:32:52.320 --> 01:32:54.320]  You called last week on Friday.
[01:32:54.320 --> 01:32:58.320]  Say thanks for your speeding trial motion.
[01:32:58.320 --> 01:33:03.320]  Helped me out in a case right in New York City.
[01:33:03.320 --> 01:33:08.320]  A cop tried to charge me with...
[01:33:08.320 --> 01:33:12.320]  Hannibal, are you there?
[01:33:12.320 --> 01:33:14.320]  Hannibal?
[01:33:14.320 --> 01:33:15.320]  Nope, he's not.
[01:33:15.320 --> 01:33:16.320]  I think we lost him.
[01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:17.320]  Okay, we're going to go.
[01:33:17.320 --> 01:33:19.320]  Hannibal, if you're out there listening, please call back.
[01:33:19.320 --> 01:33:21.320]  We're going to go to John in Texas.
[01:33:21.320 --> 01:33:24.320]  After that, the call board is open, folks, free and clear.
[01:33:24.320 --> 01:33:29.320]  So please call in, get your questions in, 512-646-1984.
[01:33:29.320 --> 01:33:31.320]  We've got John in Texas right now.
[01:33:31.320 --> 01:33:32.320]  John, thank you for calling.
[01:33:32.320 --> 01:33:34.320]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:36.320]  Hey, good evening, guys.
[01:33:36.320 --> 01:33:39.320]  I've only been listening for a few months in the past,
[01:33:39.320 --> 01:33:46.320]  and I just got a expired inspection sticker.
[01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:49.320]  What do you want with an expired inspection sticker?
[01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:54.320]  To get by the state, of course.
[01:33:54.320 --> 01:33:57.320]  Well, I went down to...
[01:33:57.320 --> 01:34:00.320]  I got my vehicle inspected and figured that the fine would be waived.
[01:34:00.320 --> 01:34:05.320]  And so because it was past 60 days, I believe, there's still a $160 fine.
[01:34:05.320 --> 01:34:09.320]  And so like I said, I've been listening to you all off and on,
[01:34:09.320 --> 01:34:15.320]  a few years off and on, but every show, maybe the last five or six months.
[01:34:15.320 --> 01:34:17.320]  And so I figured, like, what the hell?
[01:34:17.320 --> 01:34:19.320]  I'll do trial by jury and just kind of educate myself,
[01:34:19.320 --> 01:34:22.320]  use this as a learning experience.
[01:34:22.320 --> 01:34:26.320]  And so really, my question is, I just went...
[01:34:26.320 --> 01:34:29.320]  last Saturday I went down to see Eddie at Break New Books,
[01:34:29.320 --> 01:34:32.320]  and I really enjoyed that.
[01:34:32.320 --> 01:34:35.320]  And you made a point that night of, you know,
[01:34:35.320 --> 01:34:37.320]  before you throw your hat in the rain,
[01:34:37.320 --> 01:34:39.320]  make sure you know what you're actually getting into.
[01:34:39.320 --> 01:34:41.320]  So that's what I don't know.
[01:34:41.320 --> 01:34:45.320]  I guess I'm more curious about, like, I guess what I am getting into,
[01:34:45.320 --> 01:34:48.320]  like court costs and stuff.
[01:34:48.320 --> 01:34:54.320]  Well, what I meant by that was not the issue of everything
[01:34:54.320 --> 01:34:58.320]  before you go in to fight something for the purpose of learning.
[01:34:58.320 --> 01:35:01.320]  And what you're talking about, you're going in for the purpose of learning
[01:35:01.320 --> 01:35:08.320]  for yourself and at your own expense what to do and what not to do.
[01:35:08.320 --> 01:35:12.320]  What I was speaking of was somebody else giving advice
[01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:18.320]  and recommendations to other people when they themselves don't know.
[01:35:18.320 --> 01:35:23.320]  Before you throw your hat in the ring of advising and recommending,
[01:35:23.320 --> 01:35:26.320]  you need to know what the heck you're doing.
[01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:29.320]  That's the point I was trying to make.
[01:35:29.320 --> 01:35:32.320]  Now, as far as the other part of it, if you do throw your hat in the ring
[01:35:32.320 --> 01:35:36.320]  to take it as a learning experience, that's fine.
[01:35:36.320 --> 01:35:40.320]  But you still need to educate yourself as much as possible,
[01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:47.320]  because when you go in and make a bad argument or a bad presentation,
[01:35:47.320 --> 01:35:53.320]  that lingers for the next person that has to come behind you to overcome.
[01:35:53.320 --> 01:35:58.320]  Because any mess you make in court with that thinker or judge,
[01:35:58.320 --> 01:36:02.320]  that's what that judge is going to remember the next time somebody comes in
[01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:07.320]  and tries to address the same issue, even though they're not using the same
[01:36:07.320 --> 01:36:14.320]  arguments, if they sound even reasonably similar, even if they're accurate,
[01:36:14.320 --> 01:36:19.320]  the judge is not going to give them the time of day.
[01:36:19.320 --> 01:36:22.320]  That was the reason for me saying what I was saying.
[01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:26.320]  I don't have anything against people learning for themselves,
[01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:30.320]  but don't do it just to see what it's all about.
[01:36:30.320 --> 01:36:32.320]  Just get prepared before you go.
[01:36:32.320 --> 01:36:34.320]  Sure, sure.
[01:36:34.320 --> 01:36:37.320]  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
[01:36:37.320 --> 01:36:40.320]  So I guess I do have questions.
[01:36:40.320 --> 01:36:46.320]  I have no clue what to expect.
[01:36:46.320 --> 01:36:49.320]  Well, go down and watch a couple of trials.
[01:36:49.320 --> 01:36:51.320]  Then you'll have a clue.
[01:36:51.320 --> 01:36:52.320]  Okay.
[01:36:52.320 --> 01:36:56.320]  Go down during the week and go to the court rooms that are open
[01:36:56.320 --> 01:37:00.320]  and holding cases that day at the municipal court.
[01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:05.320]  You'll see.
[01:37:05.320 --> 01:37:09.320]  Sit in the lobby for a little while and watch the robotic disappearance
[01:37:09.320 --> 01:37:13.320]  of everyone's money from their wallet to the coffers of the city
[01:37:13.320 --> 01:37:15.320]  that's stealing it from them.
[01:37:15.320 --> 01:37:17.320]  That ought to put you in the right frame of mind to go watch
[01:37:17.320 --> 01:37:19.320]  what's happening in the courtroom.
[01:37:19.320 --> 01:37:21.320]  Yeah, definitely.
[01:37:21.320 --> 01:37:26.320]  I definitely understand the concept that you all are working with
[01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:30.320]  of the reason you're doing these things and the tactics.
[01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:34.320]  But like I said, I just have no experience with court at all.
[01:37:34.320 --> 01:37:38.320]  Well, just keep going to the classes because there are days,
[01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:41.320]  especially when we have somebody with an upcoming case,
[01:37:41.320 --> 01:37:44.320]  we will do mock trials during some of those seminars
[01:37:44.320 --> 01:37:46.320]  down there at Brave New Books.
[01:37:46.320 --> 01:37:50.320]  Okay.
[01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:54.320]  The last one that's out there is I wonder if either any of you all
[01:37:54.320 --> 01:37:58.320]  are familiar with, I guess you could call him an author,
[01:37:58.320 --> 01:38:00.320]  but his name is Red Beckman.
[01:38:00.320 --> 01:38:02.320]  I heard about him on the Alex Jones Show.
[01:38:02.320 --> 01:38:05.320]  He has a little, I guess you could call it a book,
[01:38:05.320 --> 01:38:08.320]  but it's only about 50 pages, but it's called Walls in Our Minds.
[01:38:08.320 --> 01:38:13.320]  He goes generally about jury notification.
[01:38:13.320 --> 01:38:15.320]  I think it was written in the 90s,
[01:38:15.320 --> 01:38:19.320]  and so it's generally about the IRS and tax stuff.
[01:38:19.320 --> 01:38:25.320]  But for anybody that is, I guess, looking for information on that,
[01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:29.320]  it makes a really good case for people doing what you all are doing,
[01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:33.320]  obviously, and educating others and educating yourself
[01:38:33.320 --> 01:38:36.320]  on how he calls the jury, the grand jury,
[01:38:36.320 --> 01:38:39.320]  our fourth vote in the government and how people give that vote away
[01:38:39.320 --> 01:38:46.320]  because the judges aren't educating the juries also.
[01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:49.320]  Right, and they're also not letting us do it either.
[01:38:49.320 --> 01:38:51.320]  Sure, sure.
[01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:54.320]  And I remember a couple weeks ago, maybe,
[01:38:54.320 --> 01:38:58.320]  Deborah was talking about maybe trying to get an organization together
[01:38:58.320 --> 01:39:00.320]  of people trying to educate jurors,
[01:39:00.320 --> 01:39:05.320]  and I thought that would be a good fit with a guest y'all had on previously,
[01:39:05.320 --> 01:39:07.320]  Don Zimmerman, and how to swing your votes.
[01:39:07.320 --> 01:39:12.320]  And so he goes through how politically how to get people,
[01:39:12.320 --> 01:39:16.320]  the people that tend to vote the most that are regular voters
[01:39:16.320 --> 01:39:18.320]  and possibly assert on juries.
[01:39:18.320 --> 01:39:21.320]  So anybody out there that is thinking of activism,
[01:39:21.320 --> 01:39:28.320]  that might be a good way to go to educate potential jury panelists.
[01:39:28.320 --> 01:39:30.320]  I thought I'd just throw that out there.
[01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:31.320]  Okay.
[01:39:31.320 --> 01:39:35.320]  Well, no, I haven't heard of him, but we appreciate the information.
[01:39:35.320 --> 01:39:38.320]  Well, I appreciate what y'all do, and y'all have a good night.
[01:39:38.320 --> 01:39:40.320]  I'll let somebody else get on the line.
[01:39:40.320 --> 01:39:42.320]  Thanks, John. Appreciate the call, Ian.
[01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:44.320]  All right.
[01:39:44.320 --> 01:39:45.320]  All right.
[01:39:45.320 --> 01:39:48.320]  Now we're back to Hannibal, who managed to reconnect with us.
[01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:50.320]  Hannibal?
[01:39:50.320 --> 01:39:53.320]  Hey, sorry, I had my phone on mute before,
[01:39:53.320 --> 01:39:56.320]  because Deborah had mentioned about breathing under the mic or whatnot.
[01:39:56.320 --> 01:39:59.320]  Well, no, we were talking to you, and then all of a sudden you were just gone,
[01:39:59.320 --> 01:40:01.320]  and then you disappeared off the call board.
[01:40:01.320 --> 01:40:04.320]  So there was obviously the connection got lost.
[01:40:04.320 --> 01:40:06.320]  Oh, okay.
[01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:11.320]  Yeah, I was calling to say thanks for the motions
[01:40:11.320 --> 01:40:17.320]  that when I went to trial here in New York, not trial, actually,
[01:40:17.320 --> 01:40:21.320]  just to stand in front of the judge with my hands in my pockets, I guess,
[01:40:21.320 --> 01:40:25.320]  and make verbal motions when nothing was happening.
[01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:31.320]  So I went to your site and got a speedy trial motion
[01:40:31.320 --> 01:40:36.320]  and made the necessary changes for here in New York.
[01:40:36.320 --> 01:40:45.320]  And I also entered a speedy trial, I mean, trial by jury motion,
[01:40:45.320 --> 01:40:50.320]  because last time I went in they said I was going to get a trial by jury
[01:40:50.320 --> 01:40:56.320]  if the prosecutor drops one of the charges.
[01:40:56.320 --> 01:41:04.320]  And I entered in those two motions, and I went to court on the 1st,
[01:41:04.320 --> 01:41:07.320]  and case dismissed.
[01:41:07.320 --> 01:41:09.320]  Good. Glad to hear it.
[01:41:09.320 --> 01:41:17.320]  I was like, you know, it was, they finally answered to like, you know,
[01:41:17.320 --> 01:41:19.320]  what I was trying to do, you know.
[01:41:19.320 --> 01:41:27.320]  I was trying to go to trial because the charge was possession of marijuana.
[01:41:27.320 --> 01:41:30.320]  And the first day when they brought me in front of the judge
[01:41:30.320 --> 01:41:33.320]  after they took me out of central booking, you know,
[01:41:33.320 --> 01:41:36.320]  they just lock you up before you see the judge.
[01:41:36.320 --> 01:41:38.320]  Right.
[01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:44.320]  The judge said straight to my face, it's not a crime, it's a violation.
[01:41:44.320 --> 01:41:48.320]  So they had got me thinking, you know, it's not a crime, it's a violation.
[01:41:48.320 --> 01:41:53.320]  And it's about, I was listening to your show for a couple of months
[01:41:53.320 --> 01:41:57.320]  before this had happened, and it just made me think, you know,
[01:41:57.320 --> 01:42:00.320]  it's not a crime, it's a violation.
[01:42:00.320 --> 01:42:02.320]  And violation of what?
[01:42:02.320 --> 01:42:04.320]  What is he talking about?
[01:42:04.320 --> 01:42:08.320]  And I started doing some work, like you guys said, digging,
[01:42:08.320 --> 01:42:13.320]  and it's city ordinance he was trying to charge me with.
[01:42:13.320 --> 01:42:17.320]  So when I was making all those verbal motions in court,
[01:42:17.320 --> 01:42:19.320]  they were just ignoring them, you know.
[01:42:19.320 --> 01:42:25.320]  But when I actually made the written motions, they just dismissed right away.
[01:42:25.320 --> 01:42:26.320]  Right.
[01:42:26.320 --> 01:42:32.320]  That's the reason I say don't ever do anything verbal or oral.
[01:42:32.320 --> 01:42:36.320]  Always do it in writing.
[01:42:36.320 --> 01:42:40.320]  If you do verbal or oral, they can ignore it all day long
[01:42:40.320 --> 01:42:42.320]  if they are not a court of record.
[01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:47.320]  And even then, they can ignore it just by having the court reporter redact
[01:42:47.320 --> 01:42:50.320]  anything they want out of the record.
[01:42:50.320 --> 01:42:54.320]  That would be much harder to do with something in writing.
[01:42:54.320 --> 01:42:59.320]  That would be far more obvious to anyone that checks the record
[01:42:59.320 --> 01:43:03.320]  that knows what's supposed to be in it.
[01:43:03.320 --> 01:43:06.320]  Yeah, and they didn't give me some material
[01:43:06.320 --> 01:43:09.320]  they were supposed to give me out of my case file, you know,
[01:43:09.320 --> 01:43:12.320]  my mug shots, my fingerprints and all that,
[01:43:12.320 --> 01:43:15.320]  because all of that was in my case file when I went to court
[01:43:15.320 --> 01:43:22.320]  and I asked the bailiff for my case file.
[01:43:22.320 --> 01:43:24.320]  Okay, Hannibal, we've only got a few seconds
[01:43:24.320 --> 01:43:26.320]  before we have the break music coming up.
[01:43:26.320 --> 01:43:29.320]  Is there anything else that you've got on this that we need to share?
[01:43:29.320 --> 01:43:33.320]  Because I've got two other callers and 15 minutes to get them.
[01:43:33.320 --> 01:43:37.320]  Thanks to you guys, I represented myself by myself in court,
[01:43:37.320 --> 01:43:39.320]  and I won, thanks.
[01:43:39.320 --> 01:43:44.320]  All right, thank you, Hannibal.
[01:43:44.320 --> 01:43:49.320]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, 512-646-1984.
[01:43:49.320 --> 01:43:52.320]  We have two other callers, Matthew and Ron, still on the board.
[01:43:52.320 --> 01:43:55.320]  We'll get you on the other side of the break, so hang in there.
[01:43:55.320 --> 01:43:58.320]  This is Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:58.320 --> 01:44:00.320]  We'll be right back.
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[01:46:41.320 --> 01:46:48.320]  We are in our last segment, last chance to get on board before we get through with our last caller.
[01:46:48.320 --> 01:46:53.320]  Right now we have Matthew in Texas. Matthew, what can we do for you?
[01:46:53.320 --> 01:46:57.320]  Hey there, Eddie. I just had a quick question.
[01:46:57.320 --> 01:47:01.320]  I tuned in a little late and caught Deborah in the middle of something
[01:47:01.320 --> 01:47:05.320]  about talking in front of the committees, and I was just wondering,
[01:47:05.320 --> 01:47:10.320]  I caught the room number and all. I just wonder when exactly is that going on?
[01:47:10.320 --> 01:47:14.320]  Yeah, that's what I was explaining about. We don't know.
[01:47:14.320 --> 01:47:22.320]  They won't tell you. They don't have the bills scheduled specifically for a specific time.
[01:47:22.320 --> 01:47:26.320]  The committee hearing is 8 to 10 a.m., and then they adjourn
[01:47:26.320 --> 01:47:29.320]  because the House will go into session at 10 a.m.
[01:47:29.320 --> 01:47:32.320]  The House session will adjourn about 2 p.m., 2-ish,
[01:47:32.320 --> 01:47:37.320]  and then all the House members go back to their respective committee hearings
[01:47:37.320 --> 01:47:41.320]  and go until they're done. And so you don't know.
[01:47:41.320 --> 01:47:44.320]  And so that's what I was telling folks.
[01:47:44.320 --> 01:47:47.320]  Heather Fazio and I are going to be tag teaming.
[01:47:47.320 --> 01:47:49.320]  She's going to go down for the morning session,
[01:47:49.320 --> 01:47:51.320]  the morning part of the committee hearing.
[01:47:51.320 --> 01:47:54.320]  If they hear the bill during that time, she'll text message me.
[01:47:54.320 --> 01:47:57.320]  I'm going to go down there for the afternoon part.
[01:47:57.320 --> 01:48:01.320]  If I hear anything, if they hear the bill during that session,
[01:48:01.320 --> 01:48:05.320]  that section, I'll text message her so we can get everybody to get up there
[01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:09.320]  so folks don't have to just sit, so that everybody doesn't have to sit there
[01:48:09.320 --> 01:48:11.320]  and wait all day.
[01:48:11.320 --> 01:48:15.320]  But the bottom line is if you want to get your voice heard,
[01:48:15.320 --> 01:48:19.320]  you can stop by any time during the day or the afternoon
[01:48:19.320 --> 01:48:22.320]  and submit a form, little affidavit form,
[01:48:22.320 --> 01:48:26.320]  saying that you are either supportive or opposed to the bill.
[01:48:26.320 --> 01:48:31.320]  And even if they've already heard the bill, you can still put that affidavit in.
[01:48:31.320 --> 01:48:35.320]  But if you want to speak, you have to be there when the bill is being heard.
[01:48:35.320 --> 01:48:38.320]  And which day is this?
[01:48:38.320 --> 01:48:39.320]  It's Wednesday.
[01:48:39.320 --> 01:48:43.320]  This is a bill that would prohibit the naked body scanners in Texas altogether,
[01:48:43.320 --> 01:48:47.320]  whether it's airports or libraries or anything.
[01:48:47.320 --> 01:48:51.320]  It's at the State Capitol Room E2-028.
[01:48:51.320 --> 01:48:55.320]  So I was telling folks if you all want to be on the list, to be contacted,
[01:48:55.320 --> 01:49:00.320]  send me an email so that I can contact people when they actually are going to be
[01:49:00.320 --> 01:49:03.320]  hearing the bill because usually the clerks will tell us,
[01:49:03.320 --> 01:49:07.320]  hey, your bill is going to be heard like after the next one or something.
[01:49:07.320 --> 01:49:08.320]  Okay, thank you.
[01:49:08.320 --> 01:49:09.320]  And that's two days from now.
[01:49:09.320 --> 01:49:11.320]  Yes, that's on Wednesday.
[01:49:11.320 --> 01:49:13.320]  Okay, thank you.
[01:49:13.320 --> 01:49:14.320]  All right.
[01:49:14.320 --> 01:49:15.320]  Anything else, Matthew?
[01:49:15.320 --> 01:49:16.320]  No, that's all.
[01:49:16.320 --> 01:49:17.320]  All right.
[01:49:17.320 --> 01:49:18.320]  Thank you very much.
[01:49:18.320 --> 01:49:19.320]  Thank you.
[01:49:19.320 --> 01:49:20.320]  All right, folks.
[01:49:20.320 --> 01:49:21.320]  We've got Ron from California.
[01:49:21.320 --> 01:49:25.320]  After that, the phones are open, 512-646-1984.
[01:49:25.320 --> 01:49:28.320]  Ron from California, what do you got for us?
[01:49:28.320 --> 01:49:30.320]  Hey, I wanted to ask you guys another thing.
[01:49:30.320 --> 01:49:36.320]  Are you familiar with this civil assessment that the courts are issuing to people
[01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:42.320]  when they fail to appear at a court?
[01:49:42.320 --> 01:49:43.320]  Well, you're...
[01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:44.320]  In Texas, it's a criminal offense.
[01:49:44.320 --> 01:49:46.320]  Yes, in Texas, it's a criminal offense.
[01:49:46.320 --> 01:49:47.320]  You can be arrested.
[01:49:47.320 --> 01:49:49.320]  It's called failure to appear.
[01:49:49.320 --> 01:49:50.320]  It's a crime.
[01:49:50.320 --> 01:49:51.320]  Wow, okay.
[01:49:51.320 --> 01:49:53.320]  Well, here they have a thing called civil assessment,
[01:49:53.320 --> 01:49:58.320]  and they charge you $300 for any time you fail to come to court.
[01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:01.320]  And, I mean, they've got to be making a lot of money off of this,
[01:50:01.320 --> 01:50:04.320]  off their penal code 1214.1.
[01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:07.320]  Well, Ron, listen, in general, when you get...
[01:50:07.320 --> 01:50:10.320]  Well, it can't be under penal code and be a civil assessment.
[01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:11.320]  Well, yeah, that's true.
[01:50:11.320 --> 01:50:12.320]  That, too.
[01:50:12.320 --> 01:50:17.320]  But, Ron, listen, getting summons to court is no...
[01:50:17.320 --> 01:50:18.320]  That is a huge deal.
[01:50:18.320 --> 01:50:23.320]  If you don't show up, you can be held in contempt of court.
[01:50:23.320 --> 01:50:26.320]  You can't take court summons as lightly.
[01:50:26.320 --> 01:50:27.320]  Okay.
[01:50:27.320 --> 01:50:29.320]  People need to go to court when they're summoned by the court.
[01:50:29.320 --> 01:50:31.320]  You have to go, or you can be held in contempt.
[01:50:31.320 --> 01:50:34.320]  And in Texas, not only can you be held in contempt,
[01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:37.320]  but you can be put in jail for failure to appear.
[01:50:37.320 --> 01:50:38.320]  Go ahead, Ed.
[01:50:38.320 --> 01:50:43.320]  But there is a specific thing in law that says how they must prepare
[01:50:43.320 --> 01:50:45.320]  and deliver that summons.
[01:50:45.320 --> 01:50:46.320]  That's right.
[01:50:46.320 --> 01:50:50.320]  And when that summons does not comply with law,
[01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:55.320]  either through method of service, compensation, or content,
[01:50:55.320 --> 01:51:00.320]  then it is not a lawful summons and can and should be challenged as such.
[01:51:00.320 --> 01:51:01.320]  That's true.
[01:51:01.320 --> 01:51:07.320]  However, if it was me, even if I knew for a fact that the summons was unlawful,
[01:51:07.320 --> 01:51:13.320]  I would still go just so that I wouldn't risk getting thrown in jail over it,
[01:51:13.320 --> 01:51:16.320]  but I would fight it after the fact that it was an unlawful summons.
[01:51:16.320 --> 01:51:20.320]  I would challenge the case and everything that happened after the fact
[01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:23.320]  as being unlawful because the summons was unlawful.
[01:51:23.320 --> 01:51:24.320]  Okay.
[01:51:24.320 --> 01:51:25.320]  Well, that's already happened to me.
[01:51:25.320 --> 01:51:27.320]  So I have like two of these $300 kinds,
[01:51:27.320 --> 01:51:32.320]  but I'm just wondering how would you approach challenging it?
[01:51:32.320 --> 01:51:35.320]  Well, again, if you're saying they're in the penal code
[01:51:35.320 --> 01:51:37.320]  but they're calling them civil assessments,
[01:51:37.320 --> 01:51:39.320]  there's something wrong with that picture.
[01:51:39.320 --> 01:51:42.320]  The penal code is for crimes.
[01:51:42.320 --> 01:51:44.320]  It is not for civil.
[01:51:44.320 --> 01:51:50.320]  Okay.
[01:51:50.320 --> 01:51:56.320]  Ron, you need to study the statute regarding this so-called civil assessment
[01:51:56.320 --> 01:51:58.320]  on failure to appear,
[01:51:58.320 --> 01:52:05.320]  and you need to study the law concerning what constitutes a proper summons
[01:52:05.320 --> 01:52:07.320]  to see if you can poke any holes in it.
[01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:11.320]  There could be a time situation like that.
[01:52:11.320 --> 01:52:16.320]  You have to be summoned on or before 10 days before the hearing.
[01:52:16.320 --> 01:52:18.320]  I'm just throwing out hypotheticals here.
[01:52:18.320 --> 01:52:22.320]  They may be required to send it to you certified mail, and they don't,
[01:52:22.320 --> 01:52:24.320]  or any number of things.
[01:52:24.320 --> 01:52:30.320]  So you need to find out what constitutes a proper lawful summons in your state
[01:52:30.320 --> 01:52:33.320]  in that particular situation and see if they did anything wrong.
[01:52:33.320 --> 01:52:34.320]  Okay.
[01:52:34.320 --> 01:52:37.320]  So in that case, it would be traffic, which all they did was give me a ticket.
[01:52:37.320 --> 01:52:39.320]  You know, the cop gave me that ticket.
[01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:41.320]  No, you're fixing up the rules here.
[01:52:41.320 --> 01:52:46.320]  Traffic is for the offense that you're being charged with in traffic.
[01:52:46.320 --> 01:52:50.320]  Procedure is the rules that govern what the prosecutors
[01:52:50.320 --> 01:52:55.320]  and the courts are supposed to do after the cop did what he did.
[01:52:55.320 --> 01:53:00.320]  Two different areas of process here.
[01:53:00.320 --> 01:53:04.320]  Okay, the guy that's working on your engine is not the same guy
[01:53:04.320 --> 01:53:07.320]  that does your laundry, okay?
[01:53:07.320 --> 01:53:08.320]  Right.
[01:53:08.320 --> 01:53:11.320]  Okay, so the traffic court has to adhere to those same procedures.
[01:53:11.320 --> 01:53:13.320]  That's what you're saying.
[01:53:13.320 --> 01:53:17.320]  Unless there's a specific set of rules created especially for them,
[01:53:17.320 --> 01:53:20.320]  and then they must obey those rules.
[01:53:20.320 --> 01:53:21.320]  Okay.
[01:53:21.320 --> 01:53:24.320]  But you need to know what those rules are.
[01:53:24.320 --> 01:53:28.320]  Yeah, there could be special rules of procedure just for traffic court
[01:53:28.320 --> 01:53:30.320]  and municipal court, so you need to find that.
[01:53:30.320 --> 01:53:33.320]  You need to trace down that research in your state.
[01:53:33.320 --> 01:53:37.320]  Okay, and you asked me earlier why did I want a commercial driver's license.
[01:53:37.320 --> 01:53:38.320]  Now...
[01:53:38.320 --> 01:53:40.320]  Well, I asked if you had one.
[01:53:40.320 --> 01:53:42.320]  If I had one, oh.
[01:53:42.320 --> 01:53:44.320]  Yeah, if what you were doing,
[01:53:44.320 --> 01:53:48.320]  if you were involved in a job that required you to have one.
[01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:49.320]  Oh, okay.
[01:53:49.320 --> 01:53:52.320]  No, it's just the way they have the rules set up in my apprenticeship program
[01:53:52.320 --> 01:53:55.320]  that you need to have one, that's why.
[01:53:55.320 --> 01:53:57.320]  Yeah.
[01:53:57.320 --> 01:54:00.320]  I'm sorry, you set up in what program?
[01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:02.320]  My apprenticeship program.
[01:54:02.320 --> 01:54:03.320]  Okay.
[01:54:03.320 --> 01:54:04.320]  Yeah.
[01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:05.320]  What are you an apprentice of?
[01:54:05.320 --> 01:54:08.320]  Electrician.
[01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:09.320]  Okay.
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:10.320]  Yeah.
[01:54:10.320 --> 01:54:15.320]  So, I mean, it really doesn't make sense, but they're just trying to enforce the state laws.
[01:54:15.320 --> 01:54:18.320]  You know, that's pretty much what they're doing.
[01:54:18.320 --> 01:54:22.320]  Well, they're trying to force an unrelated license on electricians
[01:54:22.320 --> 01:54:24.320]  as it sounds like what they're doing.
[01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:25.320]  Yeah.
[01:54:25.320 --> 01:54:27.320]  They're saying that just because you have an electrician's license,
[01:54:27.320 --> 01:54:32.320]  you must also have a driver's license, and that's not true.
[01:54:32.320 --> 01:54:35.320]  Exactly, exactly.
[01:54:35.320 --> 01:54:41.320]  Are you guys familiar with the state citizenship movement or, you know, sovereignty and all that?
[01:54:41.320 --> 01:54:43.320]  Yes, actually.
[01:54:43.320 --> 01:54:44.320]  Okay.
[01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:45.320]  I mean, is that what you are?
[01:54:45.320 --> 01:54:49.320]  Because I'm trying to understand, like, what angle you guys come at with this whole, you know?
[01:54:49.320 --> 01:54:51.320]  Well, no, this is nothing.
[01:54:51.320 --> 01:54:55.320]  What we discuss here has nothing to do with state citizenship business.
[01:54:55.320 --> 01:54:57.320]  We just look at the statute.
[01:54:57.320 --> 01:54:59.320]  We just look at what the law is.
[01:54:59.320 --> 01:55:01.320]  So, like, what is your legal status?
[01:55:01.320 --> 01:55:04.320]  Are you, like, a legal citizen of a United States corporation?
[01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:06.320]  No, we're not United States citizens.
[01:55:06.320 --> 01:55:08.320]  We're Texans.
[01:55:08.320 --> 01:55:14.320]  And, Ron, I wanted to ask you something concerning your apprenticeship program for being an electrician.
[01:55:14.320 --> 01:55:16.320]  Is this for a specific company?
[01:55:16.320 --> 01:55:26.320]  Would you be driving or traveling in company vehicles, transporting company equipment?
[01:55:26.320 --> 01:55:27.320]  Not at all.
[01:55:27.320 --> 01:55:28.320]  Okay, all right.
[01:55:28.320 --> 01:55:33.320]  Yeah, and that's why, because they're punishing me right now because I don't have a California license.
[01:55:33.320 --> 01:55:34.320]  They actually punished me.
[01:55:34.320 --> 01:55:36.320]  They dropped points.
[01:55:36.320 --> 01:55:42.320]  And it's like I'm in jeopardy of getting kicked out the program because I don't have this license.
[01:55:42.320 --> 01:55:44.320]  This is my driver's license.
[01:55:44.320 --> 01:55:47.320]  But my driver's license has nothing to do with my work whatsoever.
[01:55:47.320 --> 01:55:51.320]  But just for the fact that it's in their regulations and I signed it, I have to adhere to them.
[01:55:51.320 --> 01:55:52.320]  Well, that's what I was going to say.
[01:55:52.320 --> 01:55:56.320]  You agreed to a contract, so you can't really fight them for that.
[01:55:56.320 --> 01:55:58.320]  Right.
[01:55:58.320 --> 01:56:02.320]  So, yeah, I'm just trying to figure out this whole mess, you know?
[01:56:02.320 --> 01:56:07.320]  But you guys say you're Texan, so that means that you just adhere to the Constitution.
[01:56:07.320 --> 01:56:09.320]  The Constitution of Texas applies to you.
[01:56:09.320 --> 01:56:13.320]  And all that statutory law really doesn't apply?
[01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:15.320]  Or how does that work?
[01:56:15.320 --> 01:56:17.320]  Well, that's pretty much the case.
[01:56:17.320 --> 01:56:24.320]  No state of the union that I'm aware of, the people of that state did not give their representatives
[01:56:24.320 --> 01:56:30.320]  through the Constitution any ability to regulate the people of that state.
[01:56:30.320 --> 01:56:35.320]  Certain things and entities, yes, but not the people directly.
[01:56:35.320 --> 01:56:37.320]  Otherwise, they're not free.
[01:56:37.320 --> 01:56:43.320]  They're wards of the legislature or any other branch of government for that matter.
[01:56:43.320 --> 01:56:45.320]  Okay, so you don't have a driver's license?
[01:56:45.320 --> 01:56:46.320]  I'm assuming.
[01:56:46.320 --> 01:56:47.320]  No, I do not.
[01:56:47.320 --> 01:56:53.320]  Nor do I have a registered motor vehicle or state plates or inspection stickers on my car.
[01:56:53.320 --> 01:56:58.320]  Now, I do because I don't want to get harassed by the cops every time I leave the door.
[01:56:58.320 --> 01:57:04.320]  Plus, I'm a woman and police are notorious for raping women on the side of the road.
[01:57:04.320 --> 01:57:09.320]  And my life and my liberty means more to me than that, so the driver's license issue is not my fight.
[01:57:09.320 --> 01:57:10.320]  I have other fights.
[01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:12.320]  You have to pick your battles.
[01:57:12.320 --> 01:57:14.320]  Right, because I have been doing some reading on this.
[01:57:14.320 --> 01:57:18.320]  There's a website called Sovereign Education Defense Ministry.
[01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:23.320]  And they break down the whole setup of how, like, everybody that has a social security number
[01:57:23.320 --> 01:57:26.320]  is a franchisee of a United States corporation.
[01:57:26.320 --> 01:57:30.320]  Okay, first off, don't believe everything you read.
[01:57:30.320 --> 01:57:37.320]  There are a lot of theories floating around about why this makes you this, that, or the other.
[01:57:37.320 --> 01:57:40.320]  And that's all they are is theories.
[01:57:40.320 --> 01:57:48.320]  And the reason that that's what they are is because they're not backed up by the law that they're trying to use
[01:57:48.320 --> 01:57:54.320]  or not using for the most part that makes it what they say it is.
[01:57:54.320 --> 01:58:00.320]  What it typically is is a presumption of government that the rules that were created by the legislature
[01:58:00.320 --> 01:58:03.320]  apply across the board to everyone.
[01:58:03.320 --> 01:58:06.320]  That's not true.
[01:58:06.320 --> 01:58:14.320]  The legislature can only write rules that apply to the things that we the people gave them authority over.
[01:58:14.320 --> 01:58:19.320]  And we did not give them authority over us.
[01:58:19.320 --> 01:58:22.320]  They work for us.
[01:58:22.320 --> 01:58:24.320]  Okay.
[01:58:24.320 --> 01:58:28.320]  If you don't mind, can I take a break to explain how you...
[01:58:28.320 --> 01:58:29.320]  We're not going to break.
[01:58:29.320 --> 01:58:31.320]  This is the end of the show.
[01:58:31.320 --> 01:58:32.320]  Yeah, this is the end of the show.
[01:58:32.320 --> 01:58:33.320]  I'm sorry.
[01:58:33.320 --> 01:58:34.320]  We barely have 20 seconds left.
[01:58:34.320 --> 01:58:35.320]  We've got to wrap it up.
[01:58:35.320 --> 01:58:37.320]  Thank you for calling, Ron.
[01:58:37.320 --> 01:58:39.320]  Call back on Thursday.
[01:58:39.320 --> 01:58:41.320]  All right, folks, this is it, the rule of law radio.
[01:58:41.320 --> 01:58:43.320]  Thank you for listening.
[01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:49.320]  Don't forget the committee hearing on Wednesday at the Capitol to banish naked body scanning machines.
[01:58:49.320 --> 01:58:51.320]  Y'all have a very good week.
[01:58:51.320 --> 01:58:53.320]  God bless and good night.
[01:58:53.320 --> 01:59:22.320]  Bye, folks.
[01:59:23.320 --> 01:59:50.320]  We'll be right back.
[01:59:50.320 --> 01:59:58.320]  We'll be right back.