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[00:00.000 --> 00:09.760]  The death toll of Haiti's cholera outbreak has exceeded 500 in the wake of heavy rains
[00:09.760 --> 00:12.000]  caused by Hurricane Tomas.
[00:12.000 --> 00:16.480]  The World Health Organization warned the peak of the cholera epidemic will come earlier
[00:16.480 --> 00:19.240]  and faster because of Hurricane Tomas.
[00:19.240 --> 00:24.360]  Over half the cholera victims died before reaching hospital.
[00:24.360 --> 00:29.680]  Riots broke out in Oakland after former transit cop Johannes Mercel received a two-year prison
[00:29.680 --> 00:33.680]  sentence for the killing of unarmed black man Oscar Grant.
[00:33.680 --> 00:37.840]  Grant was prone and handcuffed when Mercel shot him in the back.
[00:37.840 --> 00:42.920]  Examiner.com reporter Gregory Boyce said the sentence reinforced the view that, quote,
[00:42.920 --> 00:47.760]  a black man's life in America isn't worth more than the head of cattle to the American
[00:47.760 --> 00:50.640]  judicial system.
[00:50.640 --> 00:57.120]  Two non-UN-sanctioned US drone attacks killed at least 13 people Sunday in Pakistan's northwestern
[00:57.120 --> 00:58.320]  tribal belt.
[00:58.320 --> 01:03.720]  Pakistani security officials said an unmanned US plane fired two missiles at a vehicle in
[01:03.720 --> 01:07.040]  north Waziristan, leaving five people dead.
[01:07.040 --> 01:12.160]  Hours later, another drone attack killed eight people.
[01:12.160 --> 01:17.920]  Chinese Vice Finance Minister Zhou Guangyao said Monday the US Federal Reserve's decision
[01:17.920 --> 01:23.680]  to pump $600 billion into the world economy might, quote, shock emerging markets by flooding
[01:23.680 --> 01:24.880]  them with capital.
[01:24.880 --> 01:31.440]  Zhou said this so-called quantitative easing in 2009 was justified because the global economy
[01:31.440 --> 01:32.440]  lacked liquidity.
[01:32.440 --> 01:38.240]  However, with an economic recovery now underway, new purchases of treasuries to inject funds
[01:38.240 --> 01:41.840]  into the financial system may be destabilizing.
[01:41.840 --> 01:46.720]  Zhou pointed out, quote, around the world we have $10 trillion of hot money flowing
[01:46.720 --> 01:47.720]  around.
[01:47.720 --> 01:52.520]  Chinese and European leaders have said they plan to discuss the impact of printing money
[01:52.520 --> 01:59.040]  at the G20 summit this week in Seoul, as well as the danger of competitive currency devaluations.
[01:59.040 --> 02:06.160]  40,000 people took to the streets of Seoul Sunday protesting this week's G20 summit.
[02:06.160 --> 02:11.000]  South Korea has dispatched 50,000 police, over a third of the national force, to patrol
[02:11.000 --> 02:14.320]  the city, expecting protests to turn violent.
[02:14.320 --> 02:20.160]  Kim Jong-un, president of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, said, quote, repression of
[02:20.160 --> 02:24.360]  freedom and rights is what induces workers' violence.
[02:24.360 --> 02:28.680]  Protesters rallied for workers' rights and against an expected trade deal between Seoul
[02:28.680 --> 02:29.800]  and Washington.
[02:29.800 --> 02:34.760]  Chanting slogans such as Put People First, demonstrators were met with water cannons
[02:34.760 --> 02:36.720]  and pepper spray from the police.
[02:36.720 --> 02:42.200]  The activists accused the world's businesses and ruling-class elites assembled at the G20
[02:42.200 --> 02:46.880]  of passing the burden of the global financial crisis onto the general public.
[02:46.880 --> 02:53.880]  With further mass protests expected, the exact location of the summit remains secret.
[03:16.880 --> 03:23.880]  Kim Jong-un, president of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, said, quote, repression of
[03:46.880 --> 03:53.880]  freedom and rights is what induces workers' violence.
[04:16.880 --> 04:35.760]  All right, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you here on
[04:35.760 --> 04:43.840]  the rule of law, you bad fluoride boys and girls poisoning the water, poisoning the constituents,
[04:43.840 --> 04:49.760]  city council members of Austin, Texas, and other cities around the nation, poisoning
[04:49.760 --> 04:54.960]  your constituents, the ones who put you in office and you're trying to kill us.
[04:54.960 --> 04:57.220]  Bad boys and girls, we're coming after you.
[04:57.220 --> 04:58.880]  We're coming after you with lawsuits.
[04:58.880 --> 05:03.560]  We're coming after you with whatever it takes to get you to stop poisoning us.
[05:03.560 --> 05:05.960]  We're not going to put up with it anymore.
[05:05.960 --> 05:09.800]  Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, is Monday.
[05:09.800 --> 05:12.520]  It is November 8, 2010.
[05:12.520 --> 05:14.760]  Early Monday nights are traffic nights with Eddie.
[05:14.760 --> 05:19.560]  We're going to preempt traffic night because we've got a very special guest.
[05:19.560 --> 05:21.320]  Tonight's the only night we can interview him.
[05:21.320 --> 05:24.640]  He's leaving town on Wednesday.
[05:24.640 --> 05:28.200]  We're going to resume traffic night Thursday, and we'll probably get to some traffic stuff
[05:28.200 --> 05:30.160]  later on in this show.
[05:30.160 --> 05:35.160]  But for now, the beginning of the show, we have Dr. Paul Conant.
[05:35.160 --> 05:39.160]  He is the author of the book, The Case Against Fluoride.
[05:39.160 --> 05:42.560]  He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network.
[05:42.560 --> 05:49.200]  You can go to fluoridealert.org, and how you spell fluoride is F-L-U-O-R-I-D-E.
[05:49.200 --> 05:50.200]  Think of the flu.
[05:50.200 --> 05:51.200]  It makes you sick.
[05:51.200 --> 05:52.200]  Okay?
[05:52.200 --> 05:55.920]  So that's how you spell fluoride, fluoridealert.org.
[05:55.920 --> 06:02.320]  Tomorrow night, Dr. Paul Conant will be giving a speech at the Huston-Tillotson College at
[06:02.320 --> 06:04.040]  7 p.m. in the church.
[06:04.040 --> 06:09.480]  You can find out more details about where to park and such at fluoridefreeaustin.
[06:09.480 --> 06:12.840]  Again, fluoride, spell it with the U first, like the flu.
[06:12.840 --> 06:18.360]  Now, Dr. Paul Conant gave a speech at Brave New Books this past Saturday, and he was also
[06:18.360 --> 06:26.240]  here on this previous Thursday speaking at our very own city council, Austin City Council,
[06:26.240 --> 06:29.760]  city council meeting every Thursday, and he was very ill-received.
[06:29.760 --> 06:33.920]  From the reports I'm hearing, he was treated outrageously and atrociously.
[06:33.920 --> 06:39.040]  I've heard stories of laughing and giggling and text messages and all sorts of things,
[06:39.040 --> 06:41.840]  and some barely a quorum even present.
[06:41.840 --> 06:49.080]  Okay, sorry, folks, but this is not the proper attitude and behavior for our public servants,
[06:49.080 --> 06:55.000]  especially concerning an issue as important as this, which in my opinion is one of the
[06:55.000 --> 06:56.800]  primary issues on the table here.
[06:56.800 --> 07:01.880]  Okay, how can we fight for freedom in the courts or any other kinds of means if we are
[07:01.880 --> 07:02.880]  being poisoned?
[07:02.880 --> 07:09.680]  A lot of people say, oh, the sheeple, they just don't care, you know, they're just lazy
[07:09.680 --> 07:10.680]  and stupid.
[07:10.680 --> 07:12.160]  Well, it's more than that.
[07:12.160 --> 07:15.520]  It's more than just a bad attitude on the part of the general public.
[07:15.520 --> 07:19.440]  They're under chemical attack, okay?
[07:19.440 --> 07:23.880]  Almost every major municipality is fluoridating the water.
[07:23.880 --> 07:30.120]  People are eating and drinking aspartame, which destroys the brain, mercury in the vaccines.
[07:30.120 --> 07:31.960]  People are under chemical attack.
[07:31.960 --> 07:35.680]  There's a reason for the apathy, and one of the biggest ones is the fluoride.
[07:35.680 --> 07:39.720]  In fact, we've heard callers say that one of the only chemicals more dangerous to the
[07:39.720 --> 07:44.520]  body than fluoride is Agent Orange, and I would like to get Dr. Connett's take on that
[07:44.520 --> 07:45.520]  statement.
[07:45.520 --> 07:50.360]  So how I would like to start the show, Dr. Connett, is I would like you to give us some
[07:50.360 --> 07:55.680]  of your background, you know, your credentials, and how did you get into this?
[07:55.680 --> 08:00.960]  Were you a pro-fluoride person at one point, and then became enlightened, and how has your
[08:00.960 --> 08:02.920]  crusade been going?
[08:02.920 --> 08:05.840]  And tell us some of the dangers of fluoride as well.
[08:05.840 --> 08:10.000]  So those are some opening questions for you, if you want to start.
[08:10.000 --> 08:14.720]  Debbie, that's quite a, Deborah, that's quite a mouthful.
[08:14.720 --> 08:17.480]  I got my first degree from Cambridge University.
[08:17.480 --> 08:21.920]  I spent my half of my life in England, half in the United States.
[08:21.920 --> 08:28.200]  I've, for the last 25 years, I've been involved in waste management, fighting incinerators,
[08:28.200 --> 08:34.280]  promoting recycling, et cetera, and I say that because that has taken me to 54 different
[08:34.280 --> 08:38.480]  countries and 49 different states in the USA.
[08:38.480 --> 08:44.520]  I say that because when my wife, 14 years ago, put a bunch of papers on my desk and
[08:44.520 --> 08:49.080]  said, dear, would you read these, I didn't want another issue.
[08:49.080 --> 08:54.720]  I'm a full-time professor teaching chemistry at St. Lawrence University, and trying to
[08:54.720 --> 09:01.080]  do all this waste work at weekends and during holidays, I didn't want a third issue.
[09:01.080 --> 09:02.080]  And I said, well, what is it?
[09:02.080 --> 09:03.080]  And she said, fluoridation.
[09:03.080 --> 09:07.760]  I said, take that away, these people are crazy.
[09:07.760 --> 09:12.560]  And she persuaded me, she says, look, they're going to, I didn't know our water was fluoridated,
[09:12.560 --> 09:17.000]  and they're going to decide whether they're going to continue tonight.
[09:17.000 --> 09:21.720]  Please read this, because I want to know whether I should support the continuation or oppose
[09:21.720 --> 09:22.720]  it.
[09:22.720 --> 09:27.760]  Anyway, she was very persuasive, and I did read the papers, but my intention was to get
[09:27.760 --> 09:32.960]  my wife off my back as soon as possible and demonstrate to her that these people opposed
[09:32.960 --> 09:37.240]  to fluoridation were flat earth, flaky people, just as I believed.
[09:37.240 --> 09:44.480]  But to my utter amazement, when I started to read, the issue of fluoridation was very
[09:44.480 --> 09:47.080]  serious indeed.
[09:47.080 --> 09:52.120]  The science was appalling in terms of demonstrating benefits.
[09:52.120 --> 09:57.280]  And one of the facts, Deborah, that really stood out in my mind was the fact that the
[09:57.280 --> 10:05.480]  level in mother's milk was so incredibly low of fluoride, so low in fact, that when a parent
[10:05.480 --> 10:13.040]  bottle feeds their baby in Austin, Texas, they will be giving their baby 250 times more
[10:13.040 --> 10:20.080]  fluoride than nature intended, 250 times higher than breast milk.
[10:20.080 --> 10:21.600]  And I knew there was something wrong there.
[10:21.600 --> 10:26.160]  When I saw that, I mean, I don't think that nature screws up very often, and I can hardly
[10:26.160 --> 10:31.440]  believe that a bunch of dentists somewhere knew more about what the baby needed than
[10:31.440 --> 10:35.040]  nature evolution, however you see it.
[10:35.040 --> 10:41.440]  And then I began to read on, and whilst fluoride from a chemical perspective is not very reactive,
[10:41.440 --> 10:48.040]  not a very reactive compound, biologically it's extremely active.
[10:48.040 --> 10:53.240]  And you can see why nature wouldn't want the baby to be exposed to this.
[10:53.240 --> 11:00.480]  So if I may jump to what we want to do here in Austin, Texas, we would obviously like
[11:00.480 --> 11:04.040]  to get Austin to stop fluoridating its water.
[11:04.040 --> 11:09.440]  That might take one or two years to convince people, educate people, get them to read our
[11:09.440 --> 11:12.840]  book, get them to look at the video tapes and so on.
[11:12.840 --> 11:19.160]  But in the interim, there's something that they can do, which is so simple, it's so rational,
[11:19.160 --> 11:28.680]  it's so uncontroversial because both the proponents and opponents agree, and that is to warn parents
[11:28.680 --> 11:35.440]  in Austin that they shouldn't use tap water to make up baby formula, they should use bottled
[11:35.440 --> 11:41.740]  water or if you want to really be safe, use distilled water to make up the formula to
[11:41.740 --> 11:45.280]  avoid exposing the baby to fluoride.
[11:45.280 --> 11:51.040]  Now from the promoter's point of view, from the ADA and the CDC and all those other three
[11:51.040 --> 12:00.160]  lettered organizations, their concern is dental ferocis. 32% of American children now have
[12:00.160 --> 12:06.480]  this condition in which fluoride has damaged their enamel, it's discolored their enamel
[12:06.480 --> 12:08.320]  or mottled the enamel.
[12:08.320 --> 12:13.920]  32%, one in three American kids have now got this condition, which means that they've
[12:13.920 --> 12:19.720]  been overexposed to fluoride before their permanent teeth have erupted.
[12:19.720 --> 12:25.120]  From the proponents point of view, it's only a cosmetic effect, it doesn't affect the function
[12:25.120 --> 12:29.400]  of the teeth, they say, and it's not a health effect, maybe not.
[12:29.400 --> 12:37.320]  From our point of view, we are concerned about when fluoride is doing that to the growing
[12:37.320 --> 12:42.200]  tooth cells, what is it doing to the baby's bone cells, what's it doing to their brain
[12:42.200 --> 12:48.880]  cells, what's it doing to the thyroid gland and so on and so on and so on.
[12:48.880 --> 12:55.640]  The most important thing to remember here is that when the baby is born, the blood brain
[12:55.640 --> 13:02.280]  barrier is not fully formed, and it's not up to about half a year before that is formed.
[13:02.280 --> 13:08.960]  This means that fluoride can get into the brain in these first crucial few months.
[13:08.960 --> 13:15.800]  We now have 23 studies from around the world, China, India, Iran, and Mexico, which indicates
[13:15.800 --> 13:24.000]  that at moderate exposure levels, fluoride can lower the IQ of children.
[13:24.000 --> 13:25.000]  It's very serious.
[13:25.000 --> 13:28.560]  From our point of view, it's very, very serious, because they deny this.
[13:28.560 --> 13:30.680]  They're not doing the studies themselves.
[13:30.680 --> 13:36.040]  They're not doing IQ studies in America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Ireland
[13:36.040 --> 13:39.640]  or England or wherever else they're practicing fluoridation.
[13:39.640 --> 13:45.380]  It's a minority of countries, by the way, practice fluoridation, a distinct minority.
[13:45.380 --> 13:51.160]  Most of Europe does not fluoride in its water, but their teeth are just as good as ours.
[13:51.160 --> 13:55.000]  But they're not doing the studies here.
[13:55.000 --> 13:59.040]  If the precautionary principle doesn't apply here, it doesn't apply anywhere.
[13:59.040 --> 14:01.240]  But anyway, that's what we're after.
[14:01.240 --> 14:08.640]  City council, please instruct the water department to put a warning on the water bills of the
[14:08.640 --> 14:15.240]  citizens of Austin, so they know that they shouldn't use tap water to make up a formula
[14:15.240 --> 14:21.200]  at the very least to make sure that they've minimized the risk of their kids getting depth
[14:21.200 --> 14:27.680]  of ferrosis, and worse, even better, make sure that they are protecting themselves against
[14:27.680 --> 14:28.680]  potential risks.
[14:28.680 --> 14:32.600]  Well, you know, and one thing we were talking about last night at a restaurant we went out
[14:32.600 --> 14:38.200]  to eat is... And I am a libertarian, okay, so I'm not into government regulation at all
[14:38.200 --> 14:42.960]  and trying to get the government to require certain establishments to do things, but in
[14:42.960 --> 14:47.200]  this case it could be considered maybe a bank shot, like in a pool game.
[14:47.200 --> 14:53.560]  What about lobbying the city council to require all the restaurants in town to post a public
[14:53.560 --> 14:58.600]  warning that we are using tap water and we are not using fluoride filter, just so everyone
[14:58.600 --> 14:59.600]  knows.
[14:59.600 --> 15:03.720]  And boy, if something like that got passed, let me tell you what, the restaurant industry
[15:03.720 --> 15:10.880]  in this town would be enraged and they would rally and do something to be like, hey, this
[15:10.880 --> 15:15.320]  is going to hurt our business, maybe you guys should stop fluoridating the water.
[15:15.320 --> 15:16.320]  Absolutely.
[15:16.320 --> 15:20.640]  You know, I was in Alamo Heights last night, which is not fluoridating its water, and we
[15:20.640 --> 15:26.080]  went to a restaurant and I thought, what a great idea to tell the people of San Antonio
[15:26.080 --> 15:31.080]  that if you want to go to a restaurant that doesn't have fluoridated water, go to these
[15:31.080 --> 15:36.880]  towns and give a list of towns where the restaurants don't, you know, are in towns which don't
[15:36.880 --> 15:38.600]  have fluoridated water.
[15:38.600 --> 15:43.120]  And then people could vote with their feet and with their restaurants.
[15:43.120 --> 15:49.480]  Yeah, I think, yes, we need the businesses to tell the government.
[15:49.480 --> 15:57.960]  You know how much they're spending, over $700,000 a year on the chemicals to fluoridate your
[15:57.960 --> 15:58.960]  water.
[15:58.960 --> 16:04.000]  This is not even the cost of equipment, not the cost of monitoring, not the cost of promotion,
[16:04.000 --> 16:11.440]  but just over $700,000 a year just buying the chemicals.
[16:11.440 --> 16:19.320]  And you compare that with the poultry, $127,000 or whatever it is, for sickle cell patients
[16:19.320 --> 16:21.280]  and their families.
[16:21.280 --> 16:24.440]  The priorities are wrong here.
[16:24.440 --> 16:29.680]  And to be using all this money to put, as you pointed out, Deborah, so successfully,
[16:29.680 --> 16:32.320]  a poison in the drinking water.
[16:32.320 --> 16:37.760]  And you know, this stuff isn't even pharmaceutical-grade fluoride, it's not the same grade as they
[16:37.760 --> 16:43.960]  put in toothpaste, it's a hazardous waste product from the phosphate fertilizer industry.
[16:43.960 --> 16:46.600]  Yes, I want to get into that on the other side.
[16:46.600 --> 16:50.960]  It's actually a toxic waste that, according to federal law and EPA standards, has to be
[16:50.960 --> 16:56.360]  disposed of in a very careful manner, but oh, they can sell it to the municipalities
[16:56.360 --> 16:57.360]  and dump it in the water.
[16:57.360 --> 17:00.360]  We'll talk about that on the other side.
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[19:38.080 --> 19:40.080]  Alright folks, we are back.
[19:40.080 --> 19:46.160]  This is the rule of law and we are going to be talking about how we can use the rule of
[19:46.160 --> 19:53.200]  law to get the toxic waste out of our water supply.
[19:53.200 --> 19:58.320]  As we were starting to discuss before we went on the break, folks, this is not sodium fluoride,
[19:58.320 --> 20:07.960]  this is not stannous fluoride, it is hexafluorosalicic acid and it is a toxic waste from the phosphorus
[20:07.960 --> 20:16.080]  fertilizer industry and according to federal law and EPA regulations, it has to be disposed
[20:16.080 --> 20:24.480]  of in a very careful and precise manner as a toxic waste and it has to have the red triangle
[20:24.480 --> 20:30.040]  with the exclamation point warning sign on the trucks as they're driving down the highway
[20:30.040 --> 20:37.560]  with it and that whole deal, it's extremely toxic waste and however, wait a minute, wait
[20:37.560 --> 20:43.320]  a minute Randy, however, there is some federal law where there's a loophole in the federal
[20:43.320 --> 20:49.200]  law that if they package it up as a product and sell it, well then all of a sudden it's
[20:49.200 --> 20:51.200]  not toxic waste anymore.
[20:51.200 --> 21:00.640]  Well they dispose of it very carefully, they very carefully drip it into our drinking water.
[21:00.640 --> 21:07.280]  That's not the kind of disposal that the EPA standards dictate so Dr. Paul, if you would
[21:07.280 --> 21:11.760]  please discuss where does this stuff come from anyway?
[21:11.760 --> 21:17.120]  Okay, yes, dentists won't believe what I'm about to say but it's absolutely true.
[21:17.120 --> 21:23.080]  In the phosphate fertilizer industry, they dig up this phosphate rock which is insoluble
[21:23.080 --> 21:28.480]  in water and to use it as fertilizer, you've got to make it soluble and the way they do
[21:28.480 --> 21:35.320]  that is to heat it up with sulfuric acid and in the process, they drive off two very toxic
[21:35.320 --> 21:43.080]  gases, hydrogen fluoride and silicon tetrafluoride and for about a hundred years, these gases
[21:43.080 --> 21:50.040]  were decimating the local vegetation and crippling cattle that grazed on the grass where this
[21:50.040 --> 21:59.200]  stuff was falling and eventually, they forced the industry to put on wet sprayers, wet scrubbers
[21:59.200 --> 22:07.560]  which consisted of a spray of water and this water converts these toxic gases into hexafluorosilicic
[22:07.560 --> 22:08.560]  acid.
[22:08.560 --> 22:14.960]  Now you're absolutely right, they can't dump this stuff into the sea by international law.
[22:14.960 --> 22:18.240]  They can't dump it locally because it's too concentrated.
[22:18.240 --> 22:23.040]  It would cost them an arm and a leg to get rid of this officially to a hazardous waste
[22:23.040 --> 22:32.560]  site but if someone buys it from them, this magically becomes a product and it's no longer
[22:32.560 --> 22:39.160]  regulated as hazardous waste and the people that are buying it as a product are public
[22:39.160 --> 22:43.880]  water utilities and it's amazing, I'll tell you an amusing story.
[22:43.880 --> 22:49.500]  In Johnstown, New York, they fluoridated the water without telling the public.
[22:49.500 --> 22:54.440]  When the people found out, they were furious and the council had to stop fluoridating the
[22:54.440 --> 23:01.480]  water and all of a sudden, they said, oh, we've got to get rid of these barrels of hexafluorosilicic
[23:01.480 --> 23:02.480]  acid.
[23:02.480 --> 23:06.820]  We've got to get rid of them within a month because within a month, they revert to becoming
[23:06.820 --> 23:11.760]  hazardous waste and it will cost us a fortune to get rid of them so we've got to find a
[23:11.760 --> 23:16.200]  place to use this stuff up otherwise, it's going to cost us a lot of money.
[23:16.200 --> 23:22.560]  Yeah, it's really funny how just a few days past, how they sell it and it's not a toxic
[23:22.560 --> 23:26.040]  waste anymore but if it sits around, then all of a sudden, it's a toxic waste again.
[23:26.040 --> 23:27.840]  Isn't that bizarre?
[23:27.840 --> 23:33.040]  It is bizarre and of course, the thing that's scary is that this isn't just pure hexafluorosilicic
[23:33.040 --> 23:34.040]  acid.
[23:34.040 --> 23:38.680]  This has got all kinds of junk in it including lead and arsenic, mercury and all kinds of
[23:38.680 --> 23:39.800]  other nasties.
[23:39.800 --> 23:45.120]  In fact, they mined the same rock in Florida for uranium.
[23:45.120 --> 23:51.240]  You've also got trace amounts of radioactive isotopes.
[23:51.240 --> 23:57.320]  If someone wrote the script for Monty Python, nobody would believe it but this is our government
[23:57.320 --> 24:00.320]  at work here.
[24:00.320 --> 24:04.520]  Are you still there?
[24:04.520 --> 24:13.120]  Yeah, it makes one real and I was saying on the air a few days ago before the election,
[24:13.120 --> 24:20.440]  there was a bond that went up, an Agenda 21 bond for that matter concerning spending something
[24:20.440 --> 24:28.040]  like $90 billion on installing a bunch of bike lanes all around town.
[24:28.040 --> 24:36.760]  I said, I am not voting for this city to borrow or spend another dime until they stop poisoning
[24:36.760 --> 24:41.200]  us because it costs over a million dollars a year to do this.
[24:41.200 --> 24:44.040]  There's a million bucks for you, city of Austin.
[24:44.040 --> 24:45.040]  Stop poisoning us.
[24:45.040 --> 24:46.040]  It's very simple.
[24:46.040 --> 24:52.160]  Here's a legal angle for you.
[24:52.160 --> 25:01.080]  The EPA has an MCL, maximum contaminant level and a maximum contaminant level goal, MCLG.
[25:01.080 --> 25:08.520]  For arsenic, the MCLG, the maximum contaminant level goal which is the ideal scientific standard
[25:08.520 --> 25:09.520]  for safety.
[25:09.520 --> 25:13.680]  Arsenic is supposed to be protective and the reason it's set at zero is because it's a
[25:13.680 --> 25:21.800]  known human carcinogen but because arsenic occurs naturally and because it's cost prohibitive
[25:21.800 --> 25:29.160]  to get it down to zero, they've had to set a compromise level of 10 parts per billion
[25:29.160 --> 25:33.360]  so that's the MCL which is the maximum contaminant level.
[25:33.360 --> 25:38.440]  That's the legally enforceable federal standard.
[25:38.440 --> 25:43.440]  If you're over 10 parts per billion arsenic, then you have to remove it down to 10 parts
[25:43.440 --> 25:44.440]  per billion.
[25:44.440 --> 25:52.120]  Now, we know that this fluoridating chemical, hexafluorosilic acid is introducing arsenic
[25:52.120 --> 26:00.600]  and it's clear simple by simple logic that then you are adding arsenic above the MCLG.
[26:00.600 --> 26:10.840]  Now, the question is, okay, so they say, look, we haven't reached the MCL so it's okay but
[26:10.840 --> 26:18.760]  hey, wait a moment, the MCL is an economic compromise for dealing with how much you've
[26:18.760 --> 26:21.200]  got to remove it too.
[26:21.200 --> 26:28.360]  It should not be a license to add over what we consider to be the safe level of arsenic
[26:28.360 --> 26:29.560]  which is zero.
[26:29.560 --> 26:35.680]  In other words, we offer a reduction in a small amount of tooth decay, we are increasing
[26:35.680 --> 26:38.840]  the cancer risk of our population.
[26:38.840 --> 26:48.320]  Right, now obviously the fertilizer industry and I've also heard that some of this toxic
[26:48.320 --> 26:54.080]  fluoride, whatever form it's in, it comes from the aluminum industry.
[26:54.080 --> 27:00.040]  Obviously, these are the industries that have paid off the dental association, the American
[27:00.040 --> 27:06.960]  Dental Association, the American Medical Association to promote this stuff to the general public
[27:06.960 --> 27:08.600]  as if it was healthy.
[27:08.600 --> 27:15.200]  Now, I am wondering how much of a kickback is it possible that even our municipalities
[27:15.200 --> 27:19.280]  are getting from these industries on this issue?
[27:19.280 --> 27:22.440]  I mean, what is the motivation here?
[27:22.440 --> 27:24.040]  Well, that's a good question.
[27:24.040 --> 27:28.920]  We left the motivation to the last chapter in our book because it's awfully difficult
[27:28.920 --> 27:35.600]  to get inside people's heads to find out their motivations and we probably raise more questions
[27:35.600 --> 27:38.040]  than answers in that last chapter.
[27:38.040 --> 27:43.760]  I personally do not think there's enough money to go to the phosphate fertilizer industry
[27:43.760 --> 27:50.640]  to be the tail that wags the dog of the Department of Health and Human Services and the American
[27:50.640 --> 27:53.600]  Dental Association to keep this thing going.
[27:53.600 --> 27:58.640]  I do believe that the aluminum industry was involved in the beginning of fluoridation
[27:58.640 --> 28:04.960]  because they found it a useful tool to change the image of a pollutant which had caused
[28:04.960 --> 28:11.800]  more damage to agriculture than any other pollutant to this very apparently benign substance
[28:11.800 --> 28:16.480]  that was safe enough to put in our drinking water and put in our kiddies' teeth.
[28:16.480 --> 28:21.120]  So I think there was some industrial involvement at the beginning and that's been documented
[28:21.120 --> 28:25.360]  by Chris Bryson in a wonderful book called The Fluoride Deception.
[28:25.360 --> 28:31.160]  But I think the thing, the motivation to keep this going today is a combination of two things.
[28:31.160 --> 28:34.040]  It's credibility and liability.
[28:34.040 --> 28:42.560]  I think the ADA is scared stiff of the liabilities involved if any of the health effects stick.
[28:42.560 --> 28:46.400]  We know it causes one in three kids that got dental phorosis.
[28:46.400 --> 28:49.800]  They have made this gross assumption that whilst you're damaging the teeth, you're not
[28:49.800 --> 28:54.560]  damaging any other tissue in the child's body and I think we're getting evidence now that
[28:54.560 --> 28:59.240]  that's not the case, that that was a false gamble, a reckless gamble.
[28:59.240 --> 29:05.240]  And for the US Public Health Service who are trying to do other things, losing their credibility
[29:05.240 --> 29:08.960]  is something they're very frightened of doing.
[29:08.960 --> 29:15.480]  Public health policy requires the public's trust and for them to admit now that this
[29:15.480 --> 29:20.520]  was all a ghastly mistake is very difficult for them, you know as Bill Hersey, Dr. Bill
[29:20.520 --> 29:25.320]  Hersey who used to work for the Environmental Protection Agency said, they're riding a
[29:25.320 --> 29:28.840]  tiger and don't know how to get off.
[29:28.840 --> 29:34.000]  So that's where I would look into what it means to the Department of Health and Human
[29:34.000 --> 29:38.440]  Services to lose credibility at this stage.
[29:38.440 --> 29:43.480]  Right, well they're setting themselves up for a lawsuit whether they admit that it's
[29:43.480 --> 29:45.160]  hazardous or not.
[29:45.160 --> 29:50.360]  Alright, Dr. Conant, when we get back on the other side, I want to discuss some of the
[29:50.360 --> 29:56.760]  things that fluoride actually does to the body and we'll also be talking about how
[29:56.760 --> 30:00.240]  well known is it in the public what the dangers are.
[30:00.240 --> 30:03.680]  Top ten reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing, reason number
[30:03.680 --> 30:07.600]  five, as witnessed by millions of viewers, the rescue efforts were interrupted several
[30:07.600 --> 30:10.360]  times due to the presence of other explosives.
[30:10.360 --> 30:14.160]  Government log entries indicate and witnesses report that after the initial devastating
[30:14.160 --> 30:19.120]  blast, a bomb complete with timer was discovered and removed from wreckage by the bomb squad.
[30:19.120 --> 30:22.680]  Yet we are told it's all due to baseless bomb scares or other contrivances.
[30:22.680 --> 30:27.000]  So while officials try to sort out their stories, all we ask is who planted these bombs and
[30:27.000 --> 30:28.920]  why is the government lying about them?
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[31:59.000 --> 32:16.360]  Yeah, I got a warrant, and I'm going to solve them, to the government them, prosecute them.
[32:16.360 --> 32:17.360]  Okay.
[32:17.360 --> 32:18.360]  All set.
[32:18.360 --> 32:37.360]  I need a prosecutor to come and help me, prosecute them wicked leader, you see.
[32:37.360 --> 32:40.360]  The mama heard a raw liar, them tell me.
[32:40.360 --> 32:42.360]  Them a liar, not tell see stories.
[32:42.360 --> 32:45.360]  Me not believe, me say what them tell me.
[32:45.360 --> 32:48.360]  So how the hell he get the presidency?
[32:48.360 --> 32:49.360]  That's why me have a warrant for him.
[32:49.360 --> 32:50.360]  Everybody listen carefully.
[32:50.360 --> 32:51.360]  Listen to the word, don't let the issues pass you.
[32:51.360 --> 32:52.360]  There seems a rest for Mr. Bush.
[32:52.360 --> 32:53.360]  My warrant on good chain.
[32:53.360 --> 32:54.360]  There seems a rest for Mr. Bush.
[32:54.360 --> 32:55.360]  My warrant on good chain.
[32:55.360 --> 32:56.360]  There seems a rest for Mr. Bush.
[32:56.360 --> 32:57.360]  My warrant on good chain.
[32:57.360 --> 33:20.360]  There seems a rest for Mr. Bush.
[33:20.360 --> 33:21.360]  Okay.
[33:21.360 --> 33:22.360]  We are back.
[33:22.360 --> 33:27.360]  Speaking with Dr. Paul Connett from the Fluoride Action Network.
[33:27.360 --> 33:30.360]  He is actually the director of the Fluoride Action Network.
[33:30.360 --> 33:32.360]  That's fluoridealert.org.
[33:32.360 --> 33:38.360]  And folks out there, if you don't know how to spell fluoride, the U comes first, F-L-U-O-R-I-D-E.
[33:38.360 --> 33:39.360]  Just think of the flu.
[33:39.360 --> 33:40.360]  It makes you sick.
[33:40.360 --> 33:47.360]  So speaking of making people sick, we are going to discuss now just what the adverse
[33:47.360 --> 33:52.360]  health effects are of this very dangerous toxic chemical.
[33:52.360 --> 33:53.360]  Please go ahead, Dr. Connett.
[33:53.360 --> 33:55.360]  Well, the first thing is not debated.
[33:55.360 --> 33:58.360]  And that is that it causes dental phorosis.
[33:58.360 --> 34:04.360]  And now one in three children in the United States have this damage to the tooth enamel.
[34:04.360 --> 34:05.360]  Yeah.
[34:05.360 --> 34:10.360]  And I find that very ironic considering that they promote this garbage as a means of preserving
[34:10.360 --> 34:11.360]  your teeth.
[34:11.360 --> 34:12.360]  Exactly.
[34:12.360 --> 34:13.360]  Exactly.
[34:13.360 --> 34:15.360]  But secondly is damage to the bone.
[34:15.360 --> 34:20.360]  There's a study from Mexico which shows the bone fractures in children increase with the
[34:20.360 --> 34:22.360]  severity of dental phorosis.
[34:22.360 --> 34:27.360]  So the more fluoride that a kid gets before their permanent teeth have erupted, the more
[34:27.360 --> 34:33.360]  severe the dental phorosis, the more frequent the bone fractures.
[34:33.360 --> 34:37.360]  We haven't bothered to even attempt to reproduce that in the United States.
[34:37.360 --> 34:43.360]  The other thing that we know is that fluoride's first impact on adult bone is just like arthritis.
[34:43.360 --> 34:47.360]  Pains in the joints, stiffness of joints, pains in the bone.
[34:47.360 --> 34:50.360]  We have one in three American adults with arthritis.
[34:50.360 --> 34:51.360]  It's increasing.
[34:51.360 --> 34:55.360]  But nobody's bothered to check to see if fluoridation is related to arthritis.
[34:55.360 --> 35:00.360]  As the fluoride continues to accumulate in the bone, it makes the bones more brittle.
[35:00.360 --> 35:02.360]  We're concerned about hip fractures.
[35:02.360 --> 35:09.360]  A study from China indicates that hip fractures may increase above three milligrams per day.
[35:09.360 --> 35:15.360]  That's simply drinking three liters of water in the United States could increase your hip
[35:15.360 --> 35:16.360]  fracture rates.
[35:16.360 --> 35:21.360]  But the one that really concerns me is the fact that when the baby is born, the blood
[35:21.360 --> 35:26.360]  brain barrier is not fully formed, and we have these 23 human studies which shows a
[35:26.360 --> 35:30.360]  lowering of IQ at fairly low levels of fluoride.
[35:30.360 --> 35:35.360]  One study from China, and I actually visited China to look at the villages where this study
[35:35.360 --> 35:43.360]  was done, and they estimate that fluoride lowers IQ at 1.9 parts per million.
[35:43.360 --> 35:47.360]  And we fluoridate the water at about one part per million.
[35:47.360 --> 35:53.360]  So there is absolutely no margin of safety for our children.
[35:53.360 --> 36:01.360]  If you're getting a lowering of IQ in, say, 300 children, that's 1.9 milligrams per liter.
[36:01.360 --> 36:09.360]  So if children drink one liter of water, we're talking about 1.9 milligrams per day.
[36:09.360 --> 36:13.360]  What a toxicologist would normally do with that number is to say, well, let's divide
[36:13.360 --> 36:18.360]  it by 10 so that we can protect everyone in society.
[36:18.360 --> 36:27.360]  So 0.19 milligrams per day would be the so-called safe level, which means that a child drinking
[36:27.360 --> 36:32.360]  half a glass of water a day in those early years could be lowering its IQ.
[36:32.360 --> 36:35.360]  I mean, it's so preposterous.
[36:35.360 --> 36:42.360]  It just indicates to you the mad world that we've got into, that the dentists are controlling
[36:42.360 --> 36:48.360]  this debate as if the teeth were the most important tissue in the body.
[36:48.360 --> 36:51.360]  You ask any parent, what's the most important?
[36:51.360 --> 36:56.360]  Which is more important to protect, your children's teeth or your children's brains?
[36:56.360 --> 36:59.360]  And I think most people would say their brains.
[36:59.360 --> 37:05.360]  And yet, because the dentists are running this show, not only the ADA, by the way, but
[37:05.360 --> 37:11.360]  the CDC, when you hear from the CDC, you're not hearing from 20,000 scientists at the
[37:11.360 --> 37:12.360]  CDC.
[37:12.360 --> 37:16.360]  You're hearing from 30 people called the Oral Health Division.
[37:16.360 --> 37:19.360]  And they're all essentially dentally trained.
[37:19.360 --> 37:20.360]  And that brings another thing.
[37:20.360 --> 37:26.360]  When a dentist goes before the public, before the council and says fluoridation is safe
[37:26.360 --> 37:29.360]  and effective, you say, stop, stop, stop, stop right there.
[37:29.360 --> 37:30.360]  Stop right there.
[37:30.360 --> 37:31.360]  You're a dentist.
[37:31.360 --> 37:36.360]  You can talk to us about teeth, but you have no qualification to talk to us about the brain,
[37:36.360 --> 37:40.360]  the bones, the thyroid, the pineal gland, the kidney.
[37:40.360 --> 37:42.360]  On that, you do not know.
[37:42.360 --> 37:47.360]  So you have no authority, no professional credentials to tell us that fluoridation is
[37:47.360 --> 37:48.360]  safe.
[37:48.360 --> 37:51.360]  But they've been getting away with this nonsense for 60 years.
[37:51.360 --> 37:56.360]  And I'm so pleased that people like yourself, Deborah, are getting angry about this because
[37:56.360 --> 38:01.360]  we should be angry about it, not just because of the science says it doesn't work, it's
[38:01.360 --> 38:07.360]  not effective, and that it's not safe, but because it's always being a violation of
[38:07.360 --> 38:12.360]  the individual's right to informed consent to medication.
[38:12.360 --> 38:18.360]  If you go to the American Medical Association's web page, they define what informed consent
[38:18.360 --> 38:19.360]  is.
[38:19.360 --> 38:23.360]  It's a very important medical principle.
[38:23.360 --> 38:28.360]  That is a doctor must tell you what the side effects are and what the benefits of a drug
[38:28.360 --> 38:29.360]  are.
[38:29.360 --> 38:33.360]  And then having told that, you have to make your mind up whether you want to take that
[38:33.360 --> 38:34.360]  drug or not.
[38:34.360 --> 38:36.360]  They can't force it upon you.
[38:36.360 --> 38:42.360]  So when you fluoridate the water, then you're allowing either your neighbor or the local
[38:42.360 --> 38:48.360]  decision makers to do to everyone what an individual doctor can do to no one.
[38:48.360 --> 38:54.360]  And this is such a preposterous medical practice, so preposterous, in fact, that since 1945,
[38:54.360 --> 39:01.360]  they have not used for any other medicine, the public water supply, to deliver that medicine
[39:01.360 --> 39:03.360]  to people for obvious reasons.
[39:03.360 --> 39:07.360]  Once you put a medicine into the water, you can't control the dose.
[39:07.360 --> 39:10.360]  Once you put it into the water, you can't control who gets it.
[39:10.360 --> 39:15.360]  It goes to everyone, very young, very old, very sick, poor people with poor nutrition.
[39:15.360 --> 39:18.360]  There's no individual supervision.
[39:18.360 --> 39:23.360]  And the Food and Drug Administration that should be collecting side effects is completely
[39:23.360 --> 39:25.360]  asleep at the wheel.
[39:25.360 --> 39:31.360]  They've never regulated fluoride for ingestion, even though it's the most prescribed medication
[39:31.360 --> 39:33.360]  in U.S. history.
[39:33.360 --> 39:37.360]  They do, however, and talk about this and that, here comes Monty Python again.
[39:37.360 --> 39:38.360]  You ready?
[39:38.360 --> 39:39.360]  Monty Python.
[39:39.360 --> 39:44.360]  FDA does regulate toothpaste, and they say only use a pea-sized amount.
[39:44.360 --> 39:49.360]  And if you should accidentally swallow a pea-sized amount, contact, get medical attention, or
[39:49.360 --> 39:52.360]  contact a poison control center.
[39:52.360 --> 39:53.360]  Well, there you go.
[39:53.360 --> 39:58.360]  And, you know, talking about the government putting this stuff in the water, it doesn't
[39:58.360 --> 39:59.360]  stop there.
[39:59.360 --> 40:02.360]  They want to put lithium in the water, and some places they already are.
[40:02.360 --> 40:07.360]  They want to put psychotropic drugs in the water to calm everyone down, so they do not
[40:07.360 --> 40:08.360]  be so angry.
[40:08.360 --> 40:09.360]  Don't be so uptight.
[40:09.360 --> 40:10.360]  Don't be so strut.
[40:10.360 --> 40:11.360]  No.
[40:11.360 --> 40:13.360]  Anger is a proper response, people.
[40:13.360 --> 40:17.360]  You should be very angry and upset and jumping up and down about that.
[40:17.360 --> 40:19.360]  That is a survival reaction.
[40:19.360 --> 40:24.360]  If you're not angry about this, then you're just going to the grave over this.
[40:24.360 --> 40:25.360]  Okay?
[40:25.360 --> 40:30.360]  And speaking of the government, this goes down to the proper role of government.
[40:30.360 --> 40:36.360]  It is not the role, as a libertarian, I will say right now, it is not the role of government
[40:36.360 --> 40:42.360]  to decide what drugs I should be putting in my body and to have it forced off on me.
[40:42.360 --> 40:45.360]  Now, I use a fluoride filter.
[40:45.360 --> 40:49.360]  I use a Berkey fluoride filter, the PF2 filters, to filter the drinking water.
[40:49.360 --> 40:54.360]  But it looks like this is coming down from the research that I've seen that it absorbs
[40:54.360 --> 40:59.360]  through your skin too, so we all need to be having fluoride filters in our showers also.
[40:59.360 --> 41:00.360]  It's impossible.
[41:00.360 --> 41:01.360]  It's impossible to protect yourself.
[41:01.360 --> 41:05.360]  The only way to protect yourself in this case is to get yourself educated.
[41:05.360 --> 41:08.360]  That's why we wrote the book, The Case Against Fluoride.
[41:08.360 --> 41:10.360]  Get yourself organized.
[41:10.360 --> 41:14.360]  Get yourself angry and put the pressure on the politicians.
[41:14.360 --> 41:20.360]  The good news about this issue is that this is one environmental health issue which is
[41:20.360 --> 41:27.360]  as easy to end as turning off a tap, the spigot at the waterworks, if we have the political
[41:27.360 --> 41:28.360]  will.
[41:28.360 --> 41:33.360]  But we're only going to get the political will to turn off that tap if enough people
[41:33.360 --> 41:37.360]  get educated, organized, and angry.
[41:37.360 --> 41:42.360]  Now, Dr. Conant, speaking of moving into the political realm and the action, what kind
[41:42.360 --> 41:49.360]  of actions and remedies we can take here, can you give us an idea of how mainstream
[41:49.360 --> 41:51.360]  is it these days?
[41:51.360 --> 41:53.360]  I don't really monitor the mainstream media that much anymore.
[41:53.360 --> 41:59.360]  I call it lame stream media, but how much in the mainstream is it now that this stuff
[41:59.360 --> 42:02.360]  is entirely toxic and deadly?
[42:02.360 --> 42:05.360]  It's getting there very, very slowly.
[42:05.360 --> 42:09.360]  Time magazine mentioned that fluoride was a neurotoxin when they were talking about
[42:09.360 --> 42:11.360]  chemicals in the house.
[42:11.360 --> 42:16.360]  The Scientific American actually reviewed the National Research Council report from
[42:16.360 --> 42:19.360]  2006.
[42:19.360 --> 42:24.360]  The Time magazine also covered a fluoridation vote in Bellingham, Washington state a few
[42:24.360 --> 42:28.360]  years ago, but it's few and far between.
[42:28.360 --> 42:32.360]  Most journalists won't get near this issue with the barge pole.
[42:32.360 --> 42:38.360]  They're frightened of being called crazy, you know, Dr. Strangelove, and all that nonsense.
[42:38.360 --> 42:40.360]  That's why we wrote this book.
[42:40.360 --> 42:46.360]  The scientific case against fluoridation is overwhelming.
[42:46.360 --> 42:49.360]  In fact, you know, they even admitted it.
[42:49.360 --> 42:55.360]  You know, in 1999, the chief promoter of fluoridation in this country, the Center for Disease Control,
[42:55.360 --> 43:02.360]  or rather the oral health division, 30 deadly trained people, said, we got the mechanism
[43:02.360 --> 43:04.360]  of fluoride benefit wrong.
[43:04.360 --> 43:06.360]  For 50 years, we got it wrong.
[43:06.360 --> 43:13.360]  We thought the fluoride had to, the baby had to get the fluoride before the teeth had erupted
[43:13.360 --> 43:19.360]  so that the fluoride accumulated in the enamel and made it more resistant to acid attack
[43:19.360 --> 43:22.360]  from bacteria rotting down sugar.
[43:22.360 --> 43:24.360]  Whoops, we were wrong.
[43:24.360 --> 43:30.360]  Now, epidemiological and laboratory studies indicate that not enough fluoride accumulates
[43:30.360 --> 43:35.360]  in the enamel before the teeth erupted, and its major benefits are topical.
[43:35.360 --> 43:40.360]  And at that point, they should have stopped fluoridation because if you want topical fluoride,
[43:40.360 --> 43:42.360]  you can get it from fluoridated toothpaste.
[43:42.360 --> 43:43.360]  Well, yes, absolutely.
[43:43.360 --> 43:44.360]  We're about to go to break.
[43:44.360 --> 43:48.360]  And it's my understanding, too, one of the first entities that practiced fluoridating water
[43:48.360 --> 43:56.360]  was Hitler in the prison camps to keep the prisoners, the Jews, subdued so they wouldn't riot.
[43:56.360 --> 43:58.360]  So that ought to tell you something, folks.
[43:58.360 --> 44:05.360]  We'll be right back.
[44:28.360 --> 44:35.360]  We'll be right back.
[44:58.360 --> 45:05.360]  We'll be right back.
[45:28.360 --> 45:35.360]  We'll be right back.
[45:35.360 --> 45:42.360]  We'll be right back.
[45:42.360 --> 45:58.360]  This powder supplement is everything you'd want in a product, and it's all natural.
[45:58.360 --> 46:18.360]  We'll leave in supplements again.
[46:18.360 --> 46:20.360]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[46:20.360 --> 46:27.360]  We're speaking with Dr. Paul Connett, author of The Case Against Fluoride.
[46:27.360 --> 46:32.360]  He is the director of the Fluoride Action Network, fluoridealert.org.
[46:32.360 --> 46:35.360]  You spell that F-L-U like the flu.
[46:35.360 --> 46:37.360]  Makes you sick.
[46:37.360 --> 46:44.360]  And we are discussing at this point remedies now, actions, what we can do, what they are doing.
[46:44.360 --> 46:48.360]  And Dr. Connett, your action network, your fluoride action network,
[46:48.360 --> 46:55.360]  y'all have chosen three cities in North America, two in the U.S., one in Canada.
[46:55.360 --> 47:00.360]  Why don't you tell us about those three cities that as an entity,
[47:00.360 --> 47:04.360]  as an overall coordinated nationwide effort,
[47:04.360 --> 47:08.360]  you're targeting these three specific cities to get the fluoride out of the water
[47:08.360 --> 47:11.360]  so that your efforts aren't all spread thin like peanut butter.
[47:11.360 --> 47:14.360]  So tell us these three cities, why you've chosen them,
[47:14.360 --> 47:17.360]  and what you have been doing concerning these cities.
[47:17.360 --> 47:22.360]  Okay, what it came about when I was interviewed by Dr. McCollough, a health journalist,
[47:22.360 --> 47:25.360]  who has a reading list of 1.6 million people.
[47:25.360 --> 47:28.360]  And he said, I don't think we're going to stop this at the federal level,
[47:28.360 --> 47:31.360]  but we need to beat this one community at a time.
[47:31.360 --> 47:38.360]  What three communities would you suggest that we start with to establish a precedent?
[47:38.360 --> 47:45.360]  And I said San Diego because they're going to be fluoridated in a few weeks' time unless they do something.
[47:45.360 --> 47:48.360]  They've already voted against it twice.
[47:48.360 --> 47:50.360]  And so we've got good people there.
[47:50.360 --> 47:53.360]  We've got a good journalist there.
[47:53.360 --> 47:56.360]  San Diego is a real chance to keeping it out.
[47:56.360 --> 48:03.360]  And then secondly, I said Austin, Texas, because they're very good people organizing here.
[48:03.360 --> 48:09.360]  Ray Olnick, Nadla Olnick, Linda Green, who I think is on the line,
[48:09.360 --> 48:13.360]  Dr. Neil Carman, and a number of dentists.
[48:13.360 --> 48:17.360]  You've got some really talented people here, well-informed,
[48:17.360 --> 48:20.360]  well-credentialed, opposed to fluoridation.
[48:20.360 --> 48:24.360]  There's a good strong movement here, there in Austin, Texas.
[48:24.360 --> 48:27.360]  So that was a city that we might get it out of.
[48:27.360 --> 48:33.360]  And I believe if we got it out of Austin, Texas, it would start a domino effect,
[48:33.360 --> 48:36.360]  not only in Texas, but throughout the country.
[48:36.360 --> 48:42.360]  And lastly, Toronto, Ontario, because Canada is very vulnerable.
[48:42.360 --> 48:46.360]  A number of cities have already stopped in Canada.
[48:46.360 --> 48:51.360]  There's very little fluoridation in British Columbia, very little in Quebec.
[48:51.360 --> 48:53.360]  Quebec City stopped.
[48:53.360 --> 48:56.360]  Several communities have stopped in Ontario.
[48:56.360 --> 49:02.360]  Waterloo, Ontario, voted against fluorid to get fluoridation out October the 25th.
[49:02.360 --> 49:06.360]  The pearl in the crown is Toronto.
[49:06.360 --> 49:11.360]  If we could get it out of Toronto, that's the end of fluoridation in Canada
[49:11.360 --> 49:14.360]  and the beginning of the end of fluoridation in North America.
[49:14.360 --> 49:19.360]  So Toronto, Austin, and San Diego are our three targets right now.
[49:19.360 --> 49:22.360]  Wow, well, we are extremely blessed that we live in one of the cities
[49:22.360 --> 49:24.360]  that are the target cities.
[49:24.360 --> 49:28.360]  And yes, indeed, there is a very strong community here
[49:28.360 --> 49:30.360]  that is very active on these types of issues.
[49:30.360 --> 49:34.360]  So, Dr. Connaught, tell us what you have been doing,
[49:34.360 --> 49:37.360]  what your network has been doing concerning these three cities,
[49:37.360 --> 49:45.360]  and of course relay the account to us concerning your talk at our own city council
[49:45.360 --> 49:47.360]  this last Thursday.
[49:47.360 --> 49:51.360]  Yes, well, we've been trying to educate the people with our website,
[49:51.360 --> 49:56.360]  with a wonderful video to call professional perspectives on water fluoridation,
[49:56.360 --> 50:00.360]  a professional statement calling for an end of fluoridation worldwide,
[50:00.360 --> 50:05.360]  signed by over 3,000 people, and my visit here.
[50:05.360 --> 50:07.360]  I can tell you I'm pretty tired right now.
[50:07.360 --> 50:11.360]  I've been on the road since October the 5th, only two days at home,
[50:11.360 --> 50:16.360]  and when I was asked to come to Austin, Texas, I was looking at my diary,
[50:16.360 --> 50:21.360]  and I decided to fill the gap between one visit to Europe,
[50:21.360 --> 50:24.360]  which had me speaking incidentally in the European Parliament
[50:24.360 --> 50:29.360]  at the House of Commons on waste, and my next visit to Europe,
[50:29.360 --> 50:31.360]  which will be in a few days' time.
[50:31.360 --> 50:38.360]  I filled the gap with Austin, Texas, and a short visit to San Antonio.
[50:38.360 --> 50:42.360]  So I arrived in San Antonio late at night,
[50:42.360 --> 50:48.360]  which of course by an English time was about 5 or 6 o'clock in the morning,
[50:48.360 --> 50:54.360]  on November the 3rd, and I was whisked in front of the city council
[50:54.360 --> 50:57.360]  on November the 4th in the morning.
[50:57.360 --> 51:00.360]  I think it was like 10 o'clock in the morning.
[51:00.360 --> 51:02.360]  I felt like death warmed up,
[51:02.360 --> 51:08.360]  and I was the first person to the podium in this public participation period,
[51:08.360 --> 51:14.360]  and I started to speak, and to my utter amazement and horror,
[51:14.360 --> 51:19.360]  the mayor was talking to the person next to him, and nobody was listening,
[51:19.360 --> 51:22.360]  and I guess they got into a habit of doing this,
[51:22.360 --> 51:29.360]  because the camera is focused on the citizen that is speaking,
[51:29.360 --> 51:31.360]  and then the camera does not look at the panel,
[51:31.360 --> 51:33.360]  it just looks at the mayor and the city councilors,
[51:33.360 --> 51:39.360]  so they can goof off whilst this person is pouring out their soul, which is my case,
[51:39.360 --> 51:42.360]  and my message was, please, here's the book.
[51:42.360 --> 51:44.360]  It's taken me a year to write this.
[51:44.360 --> 51:47.360]  It's 14 years of my life between two covers in a book.
[51:47.360 --> 51:48.360]  Please go out.
[51:48.360 --> 51:52.360]  If you really want to continue fluoridation, go and find some scientists
[51:52.360 --> 51:56.360]  who can deal with the arguments in this book, demolish it if you like,
[51:56.360 --> 52:00.360]  but please give me a response, a scientific response to this book,
[52:00.360 --> 52:03.360]  and if you can't, then stop fluoridation.
[52:03.360 --> 52:08.360]  I don't think they heard any of that, because they were too busy talking to one another.
[52:08.360 --> 52:14.360]  Now, you know, I get used to this kind of dismissal of our concerns.
[52:14.360 --> 52:17.360]  After 14 years, you get quite a thick skin,
[52:17.360 --> 52:20.360]  but I did think how awful it must be for citizens.
[52:20.360 --> 52:27.360]  You know, it's not easy for citizens to get up in speaking in front of the public, in public speaking.
[52:27.360 --> 52:32.360]  It's very, very frightening, and they're scared.
[52:32.360 --> 52:33.360]  They're scared to talk in public.
[52:33.360 --> 52:35.360]  Most people are scared to talk in public,
[52:35.360 --> 52:44.360]  let alone talking in front of the camera that's beaming out your comments in front of the public.
[52:44.360 --> 52:52.360]  And, you know, for them to get this kind of treatment, for them not to get that respect,
[52:52.360 --> 52:54.360]  it's really an insult to democracy.
[52:54.360 --> 53:00.360]  You really want, for a democracy to function, you want citizens to participate.
[53:00.360 --> 53:05.360]  The politicians urge them to participate, and if they pluck up the courage
[53:05.360 --> 53:12.360]  and put the effort into coming to city council, giving up their precious family time to do this,
[53:12.360 --> 53:14.360]  at least you should listen to them.
[53:14.360 --> 53:16.360]  You should pay them respect.
[53:16.360 --> 53:20.360]  I'm talking to other citizens here who've been making these statements.
[53:20.360 --> 53:22.360]  They get this treatment every time.
[53:22.360 --> 53:26.360]  Well, Dr. Connott, I mean, they're our public servants, okay?
[53:26.360 --> 53:27.360]  We're the master.
[53:27.360 --> 53:32.360]  This is absolutely completely disrespectful and atrocious behavior,
[53:32.360 --> 53:36.360]  and I am still angry more than anything about the fact that
[53:36.360 --> 53:40.360]  they're putting anything in the water at all because they think it's good for us.
[53:40.360 --> 53:45.360]  No, they should be filtering whatever crap is in the water already out.
[53:45.360 --> 53:50.360]  They shouldn't be making decisions on our behalf to put stuff in the water for us
[53:50.360 --> 53:52.360]  because they think it's good.
[53:52.360 --> 53:53.360]  I'll make that decision.
[53:53.360 --> 53:54.360]  That's right.
[53:54.360 --> 53:58.360]  Well, I think since they are our servants, it should be up to us what they drink,
[53:58.360 --> 54:03.360]  and I personally am for taking one 55-gallon drum per public employee,
[54:03.360 --> 54:07.360]  taking it to their office, and making them drink the whole thing.
[54:07.360 --> 54:09.360]  That's Eddie.
[54:09.360 --> 54:10.360]  No, it would be good.
[54:10.360 --> 54:11.360]  No, it would be good.
[54:11.360 --> 54:15.360]  Okay, so, yeah, you were treated outrageously in San Antonio.
[54:15.360 --> 54:21.360]  You spoke in front of City Council here in Austin this past Thursday.
[54:21.360 --> 54:25.360]  Apparently, you were treated outrageously in that arena as well.
[54:25.360 --> 54:28.360]  Can you please give us an idea of what happened?
[54:28.360 --> 54:31.360]  Where was this, to the Department of Health?
[54:31.360 --> 54:33.360]  No, here in Austin City Council.
[54:33.360 --> 54:36.360]  Oh, well, that was it, you know, in the City Council.
[54:36.360 --> 54:37.360]  That was it.
[54:37.360 --> 54:39.360]  They were talking to each other.
[54:39.360 --> 54:41.360]  They weren't apparently listening to one another.
[54:41.360 --> 54:42.360]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[54:42.360 --> 54:43.360]  I thought you were referring to San Antonio.
[54:43.360 --> 54:44.360]  I thought you were in San Antonio.
[54:44.360 --> 54:45.360]  Oh, absolutely.
[54:45.360 --> 54:46.360]  Okay, so, Austin, yes.
[54:46.360 --> 54:50.360]  In San Antonio, no, I only spoke to the public in San Antonio.
[54:50.360 --> 54:53.360]  We had a wonderful meeting, a lot of young people.
[54:53.360 --> 54:56.360]  It's good to see young people getting involved.
[54:56.360 --> 54:59.360]  A lot of young people, very enthusiastic.
[54:59.360 --> 55:01.360]  So I was pleased about that.
[55:01.360 --> 55:06.360]  I met up with Bill Kyle, a former counselor in Alamo Heights,
[55:06.360 --> 55:09.360]  who kept fluoridation out of Alamo Heights.
[55:09.360 --> 55:14.360]  Very important because he was a professional scientist,
[55:14.360 --> 55:19.360]  a geophysicist, was able to run rings around the dentists
[55:19.360 --> 55:22.360]  coming in and making all their false claims.
[55:22.360 --> 55:25.360]  Well, I think it may have been you that I heard on a radio show
[55:25.360 --> 55:28.360]  at one point talking about some interaction with a dentist
[55:28.360 --> 55:32.360]  where a dentist was saying to either you or someone else
[55:32.360 --> 55:35.360]  who was debating the fluoride issue, saying,
[55:35.360 --> 55:37.360]  well, we have to take care of these children,
[55:37.360 --> 55:39.360]  these poor children that don't have dental insurance
[55:39.360 --> 55:40.360]  and blah, blah, blah.
[55:40.360 --> 55:42.360]  And we're the ones that have got to take care of their teeth.
[55:42.360 --> 55:45.360]  And they're coming in here all the time with all this tooth decay.
[55:45.360 --> 55:47.360]  There's no way we want to take the fluoride out of the water.
[55:47.360 --> 55:51.360]  And the opposer said, well, see how much good it's doing
[55:51.360 --> 55:56.360]  if you're still having to take care of all these decaying teeth.
[55:56.360 --> 55:59.360]  I mean, don't you think it's not doing any good or what?
[55:59.360 --> 56:00.360]  That's right.
[56:00.360 --> 56:01.360]  You're absolutely right, Deborah.
[56:01.360 --> 56:05.360]  Some of the worst tooth decay in the United States
[56:05.360 --> 56:08.360]  is in cities that have been fluoridated for 30 years.
[56:08.360 --> 56:10.360]  So it's not working.
[56:10.360 --> 56:16.360]  And really, when dentists cry about doing this for poor children,
[56:16.360 --> 56:21.360]  it's crocodile tears because 80% of dentists in the United States
[56:21.360 --> 56:24.360]  will not treat children on Medicaid.
[56:24.360 --> 56:29.360]  And this whole notion of we must fluoridate Austin
[56:29.360 --> 56:32.360]  to help poor children is totally misplaced
[56:32.360 --> 56:36.360]  because it's precisely families of low income
[56:36.360 --> 56:40.360]  that can't afford to avoid the fluoride
[56:40.360 --> 56:43.360]  because they can't afford bottled water
[56:43.360 --> 56:46.360]  or reverse osmosis or whatever else.
[56:46.360 --> 56:47.360]  Well, now, Doug, just for a second,
[56:47.360 --> 56:49.360]  we deal in straight-up truth here.
[56:49.360 --> 56:51.360]  You can say it's a ball-faced lie.
[56:51.360 --> 56:52.360]  Yeah, it is.
[56:52.360 --> 56:56.360]  And here's another problem, which they may or may not know.
[56:56.360 --> 57:02.360]  It is precisely when you've got poor diet,
[57:02.360 --> 57:06.360]  that's when you're very vulnerable to fluoride toxic effects.
[57:06.360 --> 57:09.360]  So if you've got low calcium, you've got low magnesium,
[57:09.360 --> 57:13.360]  if you've got low vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin D,
[57:13.360 --> 57:16.360]  if you've got low protein levels,
[57:16.360 --> 57:22.360]  if you've got a poor diet, you're more vulnerable to fluoride toxicity.
[57:22.360 --> 57:25.360]  This is well established.
[57:25.360 --> 57:29.360]  And that means that where you're most likely to find poor diet
[57:29.360 --> 57:32.360]  in the United States aren't the low-income families.
[57:32.360 --> 57:35.360]  So on the one hand, you've trapped them
[57:35.360 --> 57:37.360]  because they can't avoid it,
[57:37.360 --> 57:42.360]  and on the other hand, they are more punished by fluoride.
[57:42.360 --> 57:44.360]  And there's another factor here,
[57:44.360 --> 57:46.360]  not that there's necessarily a correlation
[57:46.360 --> 57:49.360]  between low income and being black,
[57:49.360 --> 57:55.360]  but blacks have more, statistically speaking,
[57:55.360 --> 58:00.360]  black families have more lactose intolerance,
[58:00.360 --> 58:02.360]  and so they have less calcium,
[58:02.360 --> 58:04.360]  they have an intolerance to dairy products,
[58:04.360 --> 58:08.360]  so they are definitely more vulnerable to fluoride,
[58:08.360 --> 58:10.360]  and there are higher levels of dental phorosis
[58:10.360 --> 58:13.360]  amongst black children than white children.
[58:13.360 --> 58:15.360]  This is just enraging.
[58:15.360 --> 58:18.360]  It's just totally infuriating.
[58:18.360 --> 58:21.360]  We have to do something about it, and we are doing something about it.
[58:21.360 --> 58:23.360]  When we come back on the other side of the top-of-the-hour break,
[58:23.360 --> 58:26.360]  we're going to bring on Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin.
[58:26.360 --> 58:31.360]  We're going to talk a little bit more about the City Council episode,
[58:31.360 --> 58:35.360]  you may say, and apparently one of the City Council members
[58:35.360 --> 58:41.360]  has called Linda with a message apparently being interested
[58:41.360 --> 58:44.360]  in these materials after all.
[58:44.360 --> 58:49.360]  And so perhaps it's a good sign I think they can smell the lawsuit coming,
[58:49.360 --> 58:54.360]  and we will be discussing ideas for a lawsuit against the City of Austin
[58:54.360 --> 58:57.360]  to get the fluoride out of the water when we get back on the other side.
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[01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:09.360]  Former spokesman of the Pakistan Taliban, TTP Azzam Tariq,
[01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.360]  has denied the Taliban was involved in the deadly attack Friday
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[01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.360]  saying the U.S. and Blackwater were responsible.
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[01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.360]  and killing innocent people and putting the blame on the shoulder of the Taliban.
[01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:39.360]  Federal regulators Friday closed four more banks,
[01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:44.360]  bringing the total number of failures this year in the U.S. to 143.
[01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:48.360]  The failure of the four banks will cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Fund
[01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:52.360]  a combined $254 million.
[01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:56.360]  Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a major supporter of Israel,
[01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:00.360]  says the U.S. should not be satisfied with stopping Iran's nuclear program
[01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.360]  but should destroy its military capability
[01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:07.360]  and deliver a major blow to the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps.
[01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.360]  Top Iranian leaders and military commanders have insisted
[01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.360]  if the U.S. engages in such an adventure,
[01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:17.360]  the repercussions will be severe and wide-ranging.
[01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.360]  John Allison, former chairman and CEO of BB&T,
[01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:25.360]  the nation's 10th largest bank, told CNSnews.com,
[01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.360]  it's a, quote, mathematical certainty the U.S. will go bankrupt
[01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.360]  unless it dramatically changes its fiscal direction.
[01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.360]  Allison likened the predictable bankruptcy of the U.S.
[01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.360]  to the problems that mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
[01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.360]  whose insolvency, he said, was also foreseeable.
[01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.360]  Allison went on, quote,
[01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.360]  I think the first thing we have to realize is where we're going and to face it objectively.
[01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.360]  When asked about the trillion-dollar-plus deficits
[01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.360]  the federal government has run for three years,
[01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.360]  the more than 13 trillion dollars in federal debt,
[01:01:56.360 --> 01:02:00.360]  and the 61.9 trillion in unfunded liabilities
[01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.360]  for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Allison said,
[01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.360]  if you run the numbers, which I think are accurate,
[01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.360]  in 20 or 25 years the United States goes bankrupt.
[01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.360]  A review conducted for the director of national intelligence
[01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.360]  has found at least five cases in which U.S. agencies were warned
[01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:25.360]  David Headley, a central figure in the 2008 attacks on Mumbai,
[01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.360]  was training or working with Pakistani militants.
[01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:31.360]  Officials say in the seven years in which leads accumulated,
[01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.360]  Headley was not questioned or placed on a terror watch list.
[01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:39.360]  The review has found allegations about the Pakistani-American businessman's
[01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.360]  extremist ties began in 2001
[01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.360]  and were more numerous and specific than previously disclosed.
[01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.360]  The Headley case suggested flawed information sharing
[01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.360]  and an overwhelming flow of raw intelligence
[01:02:53.360 --> 01:03:14.360]  kept investigators from identifying the threat posed by a U.S. terrorist.
[01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:29.360]  According to the will of the Almighty
[01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:36.360]  I read his book and it says he cares not for the unsightly
[01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:45.360]  These warmongers come by that term rightly
[01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.360]  I won't pay for the war with my fight
[01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:52.360]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money
[01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.360]  I won't pay for the fun with my body
[01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.360]  Their plans wicked and their logic shabby
[01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:02.360]  Ain't gonna pay for the war with my body
[01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.360]  I won't pay for the fun with my money
[01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:30.360]  I won't pay for the fun with my body
[01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.360]  He's got to go in a few minutes.
[01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:39.360]  He's got a question for Dr. Connett.
[01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:41.360]  Julian, thank you for calling in.
[01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.360]  What is your question for Dr. Connett?
[01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.360]  Hi, Deborah. This is Julian from Virginia.
[01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.360]  And my question is for Dr. Connett.
[01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:56.360]  Isn't it true that Germany had just recently banned the use of fluoride in the tap water?
[01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.360]  Well, no, it's not recent, Julian.
[01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.360]  When the two Germanies combined,
[01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:07.360]  East Germany was fluoridated and West Germany was not.
[01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.360]  They tried one town, but they stopped.
[01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:15.360]  But when the two Germanies united, I don't remember the year,
[01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.360]  they stopped fluoridation in East Germany.
[01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:26.360]  What was interesting was they followed the tooth decay in East Germany cities
[01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:31.360]  after the unification and after East Germany had stopped fluoridation.
[01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.360]  And tooth decay did not go up.
[01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.360]  Contrary to what they were expecting,
[01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.360]  they thought when they stopped fluoridating,
[01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.360]  the tooth decay was going to go up, but it didn't.
[01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.360]  It continued to go down.
[01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.360]  And that's happened also not only in East Germany,
[01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:48.360]  but in Finland, in Cuba, and in British Columbia, Canada.
[01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:51.360]  So contrary to what they tell you,
[01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:55.360]  when fluoridation stops, you don't get the surge in tooth decay.
[01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:56.360]  It continues to go down.
[01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.360]  Yeah, and even if it did go up,
[01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.360]  what's the point?
[01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.360]  It's not the government's job to be our nanny or our nurse or our doctor
[01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.360]  or to make sure that we have, you know, the proper medicine.
[01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.360]  I mean, we're big boys and girls who can take care of ourselves.
[01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:17.360]  Yeah, and I resent, as a scientist, these nannies that you talk about
[01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.360]  not being able to defend this practice in public debate
[01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.360]  and not being able to answer scientific questions when it's put to them.
[01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:29.360]  And then sitting there laughing when they're out there on the panel at City Council
[01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:30.360]  and text messaging.
[01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:31.360]  It's power.
[01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.360]  It's not science.
[01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:34.360]  It's not logic.
[01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:35.360]  It's not common sense.
[01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:36.360]  It's not ethics.
[01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.360]  We're up against power.
[01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:42.360]  They are in charge, and they can do what they jolly well want.
[01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.360]  Well, and honestly, I think it's coming down from the international level,
[01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.360]  Agenda 21.
[01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:51.360]  I think it's all part of the population control plan.
[01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:52.360]  They want to kill us all.
[01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:54.360]  They want to subdue us all, the whole thing.
[01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:55.360]  I've got a dissent from that.
[01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.360]  In the book, we made it clear that we don't associate ourselves
[01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.360]  with these gigantic conspiracy theories.
[01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:08.360]  We think it's much more to do with liabilities and loss of credibility.
[01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.360]  You've just got to remember this.
[01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:15.360]  For all public health policies, ultimately, the public has to trust.
[01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:17.360]  The public has to trust it.
[01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.360]  The doctor, the doctor has to trust their professional bodies.
[01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.360]  Professional bodies have to trust the government.
[01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:27.360]  And I think this is a betrayal of trust all the way down the line.
[01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.360]  They do not want this exposed.
[01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:36.360]  If nothing else, they're protecting other public health policies like vaccination.
[01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.360]  Well, they should be very concerned.
[01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.360]  There's a lot of teeth problems.
[01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:44.360]  A lot of problems with your teeth is the depleted uranium that our troops are using.
[01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:45.360]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:49.360]  That's a huge, huge concern.
[01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.360]  All right, do you have anything else, Julian?
[01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.360]  I did have a traffic problem.
[01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.360]  Okay, we'll talk about the traffic issue later.
[01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.360]  Yeah, we have Dr. Conant on.
[01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:01.360]  All right, thank you, Julian.
[01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:02.360]  Yes, thank you.
[01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:03.360]  Bye.
[01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.360]  All right, and Dr. Conant, they should be very concerned about the liability
[01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.360]  because this is laying the groundwork for a huge lawsuit,
[01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.360]  gigantic lawsuit against them.
[01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.360]  I mean, talk about liability.
[01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:19.360]  Even if they don't admit what the truth is, they're still liable.
[01:08:19.360 --> 01:08:26.360]  I think there must be something in law to protect against lack of due diligence.
[01:08:26.360 --> 01:08:30.360]  I mean, surely public servants are paid for the public, by the public,
[01:08:30.360 --> 01:08:33.360]  to protect their interests, to protect the health in this case.
[01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:39.360]  And aren't they, isn't it beholden upon them to make sure they've done everything in their power
[01:08:39.360 --> 01:08:45.360]  to check out everything and make sure they're not doing something that harms people?
[01:08:45.360 --> 01:08:49.360]  I mean, is that something in law, lack of due diligence?
[01:08:49.360 --> 01:08:53.360]  Well, the problem is that the overseers of the people,
[01:08:53.360 --> 01:08:57.360]  as far as protecting our rights and everything, have switched sides.
[01:08:57.360 --> 01:08:59.360]  They no longer watch out for us,
[01:08:59.360 --> 01:09:05.360]  but they protect the acts that you're speaking of by those very government officials
[01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:10.360]  and make it almost impossible to take them into court and make them accountable for what they do.
[01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:15.360]  Yeah, but every piece of evidence that we looked at when we wrote this book,
[01:09:15.360 --> 01:09:19.360]  The Case Against Fluoride, indicates that they're working backwards.
[01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:26.360]  They're working backwards from the necessity to protect this practice.
[01:09:26.360 --> 01:09:31.360]  It seems to be more important to protect the practice of water fluoridation
[01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:35.360]  than it is to protect the health of the people.
[01:09:35.360 --> 01:09:39.360]  And obviously, that raises huge questions.
[01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:44.360]  Why is this practice so important to protect?
[01:09:44.360 --> 01:09:48.360]  Yeah, and bringing up what happened at City Council,
[01:09:48.360 --> 01:09:51.360]  this is where I want to get to the legal issues here.
[01:09:51.360 --> 01:09:56.360]  And Randy, since Dr. Connott went and spoke at City Council,
[01:09:56.360 --> 01:10:00.360]  and since Linda Green and these others have been in front of City Council every week,
[01:10:00.360 --> 01:10:05.360]  every Thursday for months and months, even years, presenting the evidence, presenting the data,
[01:10:05.360 --> 01:10:10.360]  and there is video that these City Council members and the mayor were just laughing and goofing off
[01:10:10.360 --> 01:10:12.360]  and not paying any attention whatsoever.
[01:10:12.360 --> 01:10:20.360]  I mean, isn't this some kind of grounds for a lawsuit that if they are going to do something proactively,
[01:10:20.360 --> 01:10:22.360]  it's not like a lack of action.
[01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:28.360]  It's not like they're not filtering out something that is coming down from the Colorado River from upstream.
[01:10:28.360 --> 01:10:34.360]  I mean, they are actually adding something into the water supply since they have not done their due
[01:10:34.360 --> 01:10:38.360]  diligent research to make sure that it's safe before doing this practice.
[01:10:38.360 --> 01:10:44.360]  And now that ample evidence has even been presented in public forum, it's not just a public forum,
[01:10:44.360 --> 01:10:51.360]  but public hearing, aren't they completely liable for a lawsuit at this point in time, Randy?
[01:10:51.360 --> 01:11:01.360]  It would seem so if we have evidence of quantifiable harm, and the lowering in IQ is absolutely one,
[01:11:01.360 --> 01:11:07.360]  and absolutely the fluoridation staining on the teeth.
[01:11:07.360 --> 01:11:14.360]  That is an actual detectable quantifiable harm.
[01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:21.360]  Now, Randy, would only certain individuals who have shown medical damage personally from fluoride
[01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:24.360]  be able to have standing for a lawsuit like this?
[01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:26.360]  I mean, who would have standing to sue?
[01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:35.360]  I could go in and say my IQ is average, and it should have been well above average.
[01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:42.360]  And it's not well above average because I come here and I use the fluoride and my IQ dropped down into my shoe.
[01:11:42.360 --> 01:11:45.360]  It's not the country western music I listen to, honest.
[01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:49.360]  Oh, come on, Randy. Isn't that really a legal argument?
[01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:53.360]  Well, you have enough evidence.
[01:11:53.360 --> 01:12:00.360]  You're in harm's way, and you can potentially be harmed.
[01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:03.360]  And like you said, I can't protect myself from it.
[01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:11.360]  In a civilized society, if it's absorbed through my skin, I can't raise an objection to it.
[01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:14.360]  Water is not something that someone could say,
[01:12:14.360 --> 01:12:17.360]  well, if you don't want to get the fluoride, don't use the water.
[01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:19.360]  Well, water is a necessity.
[01:12:19.360 --> 01:12:22.360]  Yeah, especially for low-income families.
[01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:28.360]  You know, and I think they think that they are protected by all these pronouncements from the CDC, et cetera,
[01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:29.360]  that it's safe and effective.
[01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:35.360]  But in fact, there is, from what we could gather, right in this book, we have a whole chapter on this,
[01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:44.360]  there's no one in charge, that there's no federal agency that actually accepts liability for fluoridation.
[01:12:44.360 --> 01:12:51.360]  The EPA doesn't, because the EPA regulates contaminants, but it doesn't regulate additives.
[01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:56.360]  The FDA has never regulated fluoride for ingestion.
[01:12:56.360 --> 01:13:01.360]  They regulate toothpaste, but they don't regulate fluoride in water.
[01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:08.360]  And the CDC, when you trace down the CDC, it's only this oral health division.
[01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:10.360]  They're not in charge of safety.
[01:13:10.360 --> 01:13:15.360]  They are promoting fluoridation, so they have a conflict of interest.
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:23.360]  And it turns out that the EPA in 1988 shoved off the responsibility to additives
[01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:30.360]  to a private body called the National Salitation Foundation, NSF International.
[01:13:30.360 --> 01:13:39.360]  They are the ones who are supposed to guarantee the safety of the chemicals that are used in fluoridation.
[01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:47.360]  But when you look at their book on these levels, they have a disclaimer, saying they've done sort of,
[01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:52.360]  you know, their professional judgment is this is safe, but you can't sue them.
[01:13:52.360 --> 01:13:54.360]  You can't sue the NSF.
[01:13:54.360 --> 01:14:00.360]  And the chemical companies also have a disclaimer. They're Lucier and other chemical companies
[01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:05.360]  that supply these fluoridating chemicals directly from the fertilized industry.
[01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:10.360]  They have a disclaimer. We don't guarantee that this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:15.360]  So at the federal level, there does not appear to be anybody to sue.
[01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:18.360]  Wait a minute. That disclaimer doesn't mean squat.
[01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:19.360]  Oh, really?
[01:14:19.360 --> 01:14:21.360]  Absolutely nothing.
[01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:22.360]  Oh.
[01:14:22.360 --> 01:14:26.360]  We put out these poison chemicals and we think they might be safe,
[01:14:26.360 --> 01:14:30.360]  but we don't accept any responsibility. Yes, you do.
[01:14:30.360 --> 01:14:32.360]  Oh, oh.
[01:14:32.360 --> 01:14:38.360]  Just saying you don't accept responsibility does not absolve you from the responsibility.
[01:14:38.360 --> 01:14:41.360]  Oh, now that's interesting.
[01:14:41.360 --> 01:14:47.360]  What about the CDC? How would you go off to the CDC? As I said, they could...
[01:14:47.360 --> 01:14:51.360]  The government agency is a lot harder. This is a private company.
[01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:52.360]  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:53.360]  They're a fair game.
[01:14:53.360 --> 01:14:54.360]  Yeah, they're okay. Okay.
[01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:57.360]  Yeah. See, the courts are going to want to protect the other government agencies,
[01:14:57.360 --> 01:15:02.360]  but a private entity, they're much more vulnerable.
[01:15:02.360 --> 01:15:04.360]  Even with a disclaimer.
[01:15:04.360 --> 01:15:06.360]  They can say whatever they want.
[01:15:06.360 --> 01:15:11.360]  I mean, you can't just go inflicting torts on people with a disclaimer.
[01:15:11.360 --> 01:15:13.360]  That doesn't mean that you're not liable.
[01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:17.360]  That's like saying the nuclear bomb may cause you to glow in the dark,
[01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:20.360]  but we can't be held liable for anything else it might do.
[01:15:20.360 --> 01:15:23.360]  Yeah, yeah. I'm going to punch you in the mouth,
[01:15:23.360 --> 01:15:27.360]  but I'm not responsible if your teeth fall out, but it doesn't matter.
[01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:29.360]  It's not a contract.
[01:15:29.360 --> 01:15:32.360]  What about the waterworks themselves?
[01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:38.360]  I mean, we're in contact with a lot of people that work in water departments,
[01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:40.360]  and they do not want to do this.
[01:15:40.360 --> 01:15:45.360]  They do not want to handle these chemicals because they're horrible too.
[01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:47.360]  They have to have hazmat suits to handle them.
[01:15:47.360 --> 01:15:50.360]  We need to depose these people
[01:15:50.360 --> 01:15:54.360]  and get their full testimony and deposition to be presented in court.
[01:15:54.360 --> 01:15:57.360]  We need to sue those people.
[01:15:57.360 --> 01:16:00.360]  The best one to sue is the one that's innocent.
[01:16:00.360 --> 01:16:01.360]  Oh, really?
[01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:04.360]  Oh, he'll scream bloody murder.
[01:16:04.360 --> 01:16:09.360]  If we sue the one who puts it in,
[01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:15.360]  then they'll have problems in their own ranks.
[01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:18.360]  Well, Randy, what about we sue city council first
[01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:22.360]  because they're the ones that are responsible for making the decisions to put it in,
[01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:27.360]  and then, wait a minute, hear me out, and then we depose the workers
[01:16:27.360 --> 01:16:31.360]  to get their sob story about the whole thing, about how dangerous it is,
[01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:35.360]  and if that doesn't work, then we'll go back and sue the workers.
[01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:39.360]  But at this point in time, I'd rather use the workers as an asset
[01:16:39.360 --> 01:16:41.360]  and get their full testimony on the deal
[01:16:41.360 --> 01:16:45.360]  because that is some heavy evidence about what they have to go through
[01:16:45.360 --> 01:16:47.360]  with the hazmat suits and everything else,
[01:16:47.360 --> 01:16:50.360]  and we need to get their testimony on this.
[01:16:50.360 --> 01:16:52.360]  Yeah, but you'd get that anyway.
[01:16:52.360 --> 01:16:53.360]  Yeah.
[01:16:53.360 --> 01:16:55.360]  Just to defend themselves, they'd give the other guy up.
[01:16:55.360 --> 01:16:59.360]  Okay, we're going to break. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
[01:16:59.360 --> 01:17:02.360]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM,
[01:17:02.360 --> 01:17:05.360]  but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy,
[01:17:05.360 --> 01:17:08.360]  and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[01:17:08.360 --> 01:17:11.360]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:12.360]  Brave New Books?
[01:17:12.360 --> 01:17:16.360]  Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for
[01:17:16.360 --> 01:17:19.360]  by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[01:17:19.360 --> 01:17:23.360]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
[01:17:23.360 --> 01:17:26.360]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:17:26.360 --> 01:17:27.360]  Go check it out for yourself.
[01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:31.360]  It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[01:17:31.360 --> 01:17:35.360]  By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
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[01:18:59.360 --> 01:19:26.360]  A'n't gon'a blime me Don't buy me
[01:19:26.360 --> 01:19:33.360]  But now I can see your plans You put the fear in my pocket
[01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:42.360]  Took the money from my hand Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:42.360 --> 01:19:47.360]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:49.360]  Okay folks, we are back.
[01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:57.360]  If you have a question for Dr. Paul Connitz from fluoridealert.org.
[01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:00.360]  He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network.
[01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:04.360]  He's the author of the book Case Against Fluoride.
[01:20:04.360 --> 01:20:08.360]  He's speaking tomorrow night at the Huston-Tillotson College in the church at 7 p.m.
[01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:14.360]  You can go to fluoridefreeaustin.org for more information about where to park and such.
[01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:21.360]  So we're discussing how we're going to put together this lawsuit against whom, who all the co-defendants are going to be,
[01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:24.360]  who has standing to be the plaintiffs.
[01:20:24.360 --> 01:20:31.360]  And I'm saying for sure, city council, and I'm thinking not just the city of Austin as an entity,
[01:20:31.360 --> 01:20:35.360]  I say we sue, here's my list of defendants so far.
[01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:40.360]  The city of Austin, the city council members personally,
[01:20:40.360 --> 01:20:48.360]  Randy is suggesting as co-defendants also the actual workers that are putting the fluoride into the water physically.
[01:20:48.360 --> 01:20:50.360]  They're the ones who actually do the dirty deed.
[01:20:50.360 --> 01:20:57.360]  And Dr. Connitz is now suggesting someone from the health department, the Texas Health Department here in Austin,
[01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:00.360]  a toady as Dr. Connitz calls him.
[01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:02.360]  Tell us about the toady, Dr. Connitz.
[01:21:02.360 --> 01:21:13.360]  There's meant to be a private comment, but no, this Dr. Huang is a former employee of the CDC.
[01:21:13.360 --> 01:21:20.360]  What you've got to recognize is two chains of command which have orchestrated this fluoridation for 60 years.
[01:21:20.360 --> 01:21:27.360]  One is what was once the U.S. Public Health Services, now the Department of Health and Human Services,
[01:21:27.360 --> 01:21:32.360]  which is in terms of the instrument is the Center of Disease Control.
[01:21:32.360 --> 01:21:38.360]  And they are at the top, the Center of Disease Control, but then there's this chain of command through every state.
[01:21:38.360 --> 01:21:43.360]  Every state has a health department, every health department has a dental director,
[01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:47.360]  and usually that dental director is actually paid by the CDC.
[01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:54.360]  And one of their jobs is to promote fluoridation, they get incentives to do so.
[01:21:54.360 --> 01:22:00.360]  And then that works down to the town's health departments or whatever they're called.
[01:22:00.360 --> 01:22:06.360]  I think in the case of Austin, it's the Department of Health and Human Services.
[01:22:06.360 --> 01:22:14.360]  And we did have the opportunity to have a half an hour or so discussion with Dr. Huang, the head of that.
[01:22:14.360 --> 01:22:19.360]  And I was just appalled. I mean, he was just a rubber stamp from this policy.
[01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:24.360]  Everything we said was not, you know, they wasn't digested or anything.
[01:22:24.360 --> 01:22:30.360]  It was an immediate response. It was an immediate denial, denial, denial.
[01:22:30.360 --> 01:22:34.360]  That's a bad study or this is wrong or that.
[01:22:34.360 --> 01:22:45.360]  Again, the only, I think, rational assessment of that conversation was that he was working backwards,
[01:22:45.360 --> 01:22:51.360]  backwards from the necessity to keep this practice going at all costs.
[01:22:51.360 --> 01:22:54.360]  It was more important. This is an impression.
[01:22:54.360 --> 01:23:00.360]  Now, you might have a different view of this, but my impression was the important thing was to keep this practice going.
[01:23:00.360 --> 01:23:05.360]  And that was more important than protecting the health of the community.
[01:23:05.360 --> 01:23:13.360]  We couldn't even get a really positive response to the notion of putting a warning to parents in the water bills.
[01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:15.360]  Oh, I have to discuss this.
[01:23:15.360 --> 01:23:18.360]  You know, it wasn't, yes, that's a good idea.
[01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:23.360]  We should warn parents not to use tap water to make up a formula.
[01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:28.360]  Obviously, the cogs were turning and it was, will this threaten the program?
[01:23:28.360 --> 01:23:35.360]  So I think, yes, he's a candidate or that department is a candidate for a lawsuit.
[01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:39.360]  Indeed. Now let's talk about who has standing to file.
[01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:47.360]  Randy, can anyone who lives in Austin and is drinking the tap water or being affected by the tap water file,
[01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:56.360]  I mean, you've said before that in general, the general public does not have standing for a lawsuit that you have to show specific harm.
[01:23:56.360 --> 01:24:00.360]  Well, this is one where we can document the specific harm.
[01:24:00.360 --> 01:24:06.360]  So anyone who is living in Austin would have standing to raise the issue.
[01:24:06.360 --> 01:24:10.360]  I mean, we can document the specific harm from the research studies is what you're saying.
[01:24:10.360 --> 01:24:16.360]  And so that way, okay, so since there has been documentation of specific harm in research studies,
[01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:24.360]  therefore anybody who is part of the general public in Austin, even if they don't, even if they can't show specific harm themselves,
[01:24:24.360 --> 01:24:26.360]  they would still have standing to sue.
[01:24:26.360 --> 01:24:27.360]  Exactly.
[01:24:27.360 --> 01:24:37.360]  Calling all activists, patriots in the city of Austin, send me an email if you would like to be a co-plaintiff in this lawsuit
[01:24:37.360 --> 01:24:42.360]  that we are cooking up right now against the city of Austin, the city council members personally,
[01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:52.360]  the workers who actually put the fluoride into the water, and this crony at the health department.
[01:24:52.360 --> 01:24:53.360]  We've got to stop this.
[01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:54.360]  Yes.
[01:24:54.360 --> 01:24:59.360]  All right, and we will be bringing Dr. Paul Conant on.
[01:24:59.360 --> 01:25:00.360]  What about Linda?
[01:25:00.360 --> 01:25:04.360]  And Linda, we're going to bring Linda on right now as well.
[01:25:04.360 --> 01:25:06.360]  She's certainly going to be a co-plaintiff.
[01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:10.360]  Dr. Paul Conant will be our professional witness.
[01:25:10.360 --> 01:25:12.360]  Yes, yes, I'll be there.
[01:25:12.360 --> 01:25:18.360]  Okay, so Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin, thank you for holding and thank you for joining us tonight.
[01:25:18.360 --> 01:25:19.360]  Thank you.
[01:25:19.360 --> 01:25:27.360]  And everything that you have discussed tonight, the city council has heard at least once over the last two years
[01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:33.360]  as a very loose coalition of citizens has come together as Fluoride Free Austin
[01:25:33.360 --> 01:25:38.360]  and spoken to mayor and city council over and over and over again, as you said.
[01:25:38.360 --> 01:25:43.360]  We've presented evidence from the National Research Council.
[01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:50.360]  We've presented them over a month ago with Dr. Paul Conant's new book, The Case Against Fluoride.
[01:25:50.360 --> 01:25:58.360]  We've given them a copy of a wonderful 32-minute video that you can order at fluoridealert.org
[01:25:58.360 --> 01:26:02.360]  called Professional Perspectives on Water Fluoridation.
[01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:06.360]  And we have a wonderful resource in our community.
[01:26:06.360 --> 01:26:11.360]  Brave New Books has made copies of this movie and given it out to people.
[01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:17.360]  Brave New Books bought six copies of this book for us to give and take to city council.
[01:26:17.360 --> 01:26:24.360]  And we have Texans for Accountable Government, John Bush and Rob Love and Heather,
[01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:28.360]  who over and over again also have gone to city council and spoken.
[01:26:28.360 --> 01:26:31.360]  So they're quite aware of the facts.
[01:26:31.360 --> 01:26:36.360]  And after two years of presenting them with all this evidence,
[01:26:36.360 --> 01:26:42.360]  we thought, oh, all we need is four city council members to vote this out,
[01:26:42.360 --> 01:26:45.360]  and surely they're going to do the right thing.
[01:26:45.360 --> 01:26:54.360]  And then after presenting them with this book and the movie over a month ago,
[01:26:54.360 --> 01:27:00.360]  they knew Dr. Conant's standing professor,
[01:27:00.360 --> 01:27:05.360]  Emeritus of Environmental Chemistry at St. Lawrence University,
[01:27:05.360 --> 01:27:12.360]  and as he spoke last week, it took them several minutes to get a quorum.
[01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:16.360]  They kept flashing up on the city council screen, no quorum, no quorum.
[01:27:16.360 --> 01:27:25.360]  Finally, when they got started, it was the mayor, Randy Shade, Cheryl Cole,
[01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:29.360]  and Chris Riley in the room.
[01:27:29.360 --> 01:27:32.360]  Margot, our city manager, was missing.
[01:27:32.360 --> 01:27:34.360]  He had a fill-in.
[01:27:34.360 --> 01:27:40.360]  And as Dr. Conant started to speak, the mayor and the fill-in started chit-chatting.
[01:27:40.360 --> 01:27:44.360]  Their heads, they're almost touching, chit-chatting and smiling,
[01:27:44.360 --> 01:27:48.360]  completely ignoring Dr. Conant's speech.
[01:27:48.360 --> 01:27:51.360]  And they knew he was coming.
[01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:53.360]  They had been given his book, his movie.
[01:27:53.360 --> 01:27:57.360]  So to me, it was a deliberate snub.
[01:27:57.360 --> 01:28:00.360]  And it appeared that Randy Shade was reading a text message.
[01:28:00.360 --> 01:28:04.360]  She had a smile on her face and was looking down at her hand.
[01:28:04.360 --> 01:28:08.360]  So a number of us called city council today,
[01:28:08.360 --> 01:28:15.360]  and we let them know that we are enraged at their immature behavior.
[01:28:15.360 --> 01:28:21.360]  And I actually got a phone call from Randy Shade as I was going to Whole Foods tonight
[01:28:21.360 --> 01:28:25.360]  to refill my water bottle at the Reverse Osmosis Center.
[01:28:25.360 --> 01:28:36.360]  And she was very apologetic that I thought she wasn't paying attention to Dr. Conant's speech.
[01:28:36.360 --> 01:28:39.360]  She assured me that she was paying attention
[01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:43.360]  and that from time to time she does have to take text messages from her nannies,
[01:28:43.360 --> 01:28:47.360]  and she has so much important information that she has to deal with.
[01:28:47.360 --> 01:28:54.360]  So they've gotten a message that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore.
[01:28:54.360 --> 01:28:59.360]  And at the same time, I feel like we have all this wonderful community.
[01:28:59.360 --> 01:29:02.360]  We have 90.1 radio.
[01:29:02.360 --> 01:29:03.360]  We have Brave New Books.
[01:29:03.360 --> 01:29:05.360]  We have Texans for Accountable Government.
[01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:07.360]  We have Rule of Law radio.
[01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:13.360]  And I think maybe the first step for us to take is to demand that city council
[01:29:13.360 --> 01:29:19.360]  and the water utility company puts a warning label on the water bill.
[01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:21.360]  That would be the first step.
[01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:26.360]  And let them know we're coming and this is the first step
[01:29:26.360 --> 01:29:32.360]  because we've handed out hundreds of flyers from Fluoride Free Austin
[01:29:32.360 --> 01:29:40.360]  acknowledging that in 2001 the Center for Disease Control and 2002 the American Dental Association
[01:29:40.360 --> 01:29:45.360]  both said babies should get zero fluoride in their water.
[01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:46.360]  So let's warn the public.
[01:29:46.360 --> 01:29:48.360]  Hold on, we're going to break, Linda.
[01:29:48.360 --> 01:29:50.360]  When we get back on the other side, I'm going to comment on that.
[01:29:50.360 --> 01:29:55.360]  We've got some callers on the line that have some comments and questions concerning Fluoride as well.
[01:29:55.360 --> 01:29:56.360]  We'll be right back.
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[01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:41.360]  Okay, folks, we are back. We're taking your calls. Mitchell from Texas, just hang on one moment.
[01:32:41.360 --> 01:32:47.360]  I want to make some comments here concerning the demand for a warning to be put on the water bill.
[01:32:47.360 --> 01:32:54.360]  And as I was suggesting earlier, perhaps even demanding that the restaurants put up a notice,
[01:32:54.360 --> 01:33:00.360]  but that would require the passing of another city ordinance, so maybe that's a little bit off the mark.
[01:33:00.360 --> 01:33:03.360]  But concerning the demand, how do we demand?
[01:33:03.360 --> 01:33:09.360]  We have been going and screaming at them at City Council for two years and they're not listening.
[01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:14.360]  Here's how you demand. You file lawsuits, okay, because when it comes to the banksters,
[01:33:14.360 --> 01:33:23.360]  when it comes to these public serpents, as I call them, they will not pay attention to anything except a lawsuit, all right?
[01:33:23.360 --> 01:33:27.360]  So here's how we demand that they put a warning on the water bill.
[01:33:27.360 --> 01:33:34.360]  And I would say not just demand in a lawsuit, and I'm going to explain that in a minute, but here's what we do.
[01:33:34.360 --> 01:33:44.360]  We file for TRO, a temporary restraining order, restraining them from any further practice of putting fluoride in the water
[01:33:44.360 --> 01:33:48.360]  until a full hearing can be held concerning the lawsuit.
[01:33:48.360 --> 01:33:55.360]  And when we ask for injunctive relief, see, we have a much better chance of getting our way because we're not asking for any money.
[01:33:55.360 --> 01:34:00.360]  They have no kind of immunity concerning the injunct, when you ask just for the injunctive relief,
[01:34:00.360 --> 01:34:04.360]  which in this case is just to stop putting the fluoride.
[01:34:04.360 --> 01:34:11.360]  And so what I would believe would be a good injunctive relief to ask for, which would be in the prayer of the lawsuit,
[01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:17.360]  what you're asking the court to order is, number one, they put, they start, as effective immediately,
[01:34:17.360 --> 01:34:26.360]  they start printing a warning on the water bills that go out until such time as the fluoridation practice is stopped.
[01:34:26.360 --> 01:34:31.360]  We don't just say, well, let's just for now, let's put a warning.
[01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:39.360]  No, it's like you put a warning label on until you stop doing it, and we're asking for it to be stopped immediately.
[01:34:39.360 --> 01:34:46.360]  So that's my ideas for a petition for temporary restraining order and also for the injunctive relief.
[01:34:46.360 --> 01:34:51.360]  Here's one other thing. You're not allowed to charge for the water to the fluoridation season.
[01:34:51.360 --> 01:34:54.360]  Yeah, how about that? Yeah, that's a good one.
[01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:57.360]  I love that.
[01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:03.360]  I like that too. Now, we're not likely to get that in court, but so, Randy, what are your thoughts?
[01:35:03.360 --> 01:35:06.360]  You want me to pay for the poison you're giving me? I don't think so.
[01:35:06.360 --> 01:35:13.360]  Well, we're paying for it through, you know, the city of Austin is paying for it. That means we're paying for it, yeah.
[01:35:13.360 --> 01:35:16.360]  You know, we know what's sad about this. We talk about payment.
[01:35:16.360 --> 01:35:26.360]  This is over $700,000 a year, and it's designed to help families of children from families of low income.
[01:35:26.360 --> 01:35:37.360]  If we took that $700,000 that they're frishing away on these poisonous chemicals and help those low-income families directly with education,
[01:35:37.360 --> 01:35:39.360]  we could kill two birds with one stone.
[01:35:39.360 --> 01:35:47.360]  Not only do we need to educate people on a better diet to fight tooth decay, but that better diet also fights obesity.
[01:35:47.360 --> 01:35:58.360]  And obesity in children now, we're getting diabetes in their early teens, senior diabetes, diabetes type 2 in their teens.
[01:35:58.360 --> 01:36:02.360]  That's going to cost the country billions of dollars.
[01:36:02.360 --> 01:36:11.360]  So, you know, it's a good investment to protect tooth decay with education, not fluoridation.
[01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:16.360]  Indeed. So, Randy, what do you think about my ideas for the injunctive relief?
[01:36:16.360 --> 01:36:27.360]  I think if we win a suit, that's how we'll win it, but I would also want to put in monetary claims against the individuals
[01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:33.360]  so that we can use the monetary claim as a bargaining chip.
[01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:38.360]  You give us the injunction, we drop the monetary.
[01:36:38.360 --> 01:36:39.360]  Right.
[01:36:39.360 --> 01:36:42.360]  Oh, you guys are good. You guys are really good.
[01:36:42.360 --> 01:36:47.360]  Right. Well, we'll forget about asking for the compensation if you just stop.
[01:36:47.360 --> 01:36:52.360]  I still say we just make them drink it, and then when we go to office, we'll get it out.
[01:36:52.360 --> 01:37:03.360]  When you go after the employees, the city really gets excited because if you nail the employee for doing what the city told them to do,
[01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:11.360]  then they're looking at a situation where they can't get help. This really drives them up the wall.
[01:37:11.360 --> 01:37:15.360]  Well, now, Randy, are the city council members also liable personally for this?
[01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:20.360]  I would think so. This is, they have imputed knowledge.
[01:37:20.360 --> 01:37:24.360]  Let's put it this way. We list them as co-defendants, and they'll have to hire their own attorneys.
[01:37:24.360 --> 01:37:29.360]  They can't use the city attorney to defend them personally in the lawsuit.
[01:37:29.360 --> 01:37:36.360]  Now, the city attorney can defend the city of Austin, but the city attorney can't defend the city council members personally,
[01:37:36.360 --> 01:37:41.360]  so they're going to have to hire an attorney just to get them dismissed from the suit.
[01:37:41.360 --> 01:37:47.360]  We sued a magistrate, a local JP, and he got the county attorney to write his answer,
[01:37:47.360 --> 01:37:50.360]  so we sued the county attorney for misappropriation of public funds.
[01:37:50.360 --> 01:37:51.360]  Absolutely.
[01:37:51.360 --> 01:37:52.360]  That was a hoot.
[01:37:52.360 --> 01:37:55.360]  They have to hire their own attorney just like everybody else.
[01:37:55.360 --> 01:38:01.360]  Tell me, what happens when they say, well, the Center for Disease Control told us it was okay,
[01:38:01.360 --> 01:38:10.360]  and this agency tells us it's okay. They pass it up the ladder. What do you do legally in court to counteract that?
[01:38:10.360 --> 01:38:12.360]  That doesn't mean anything.
[01:38:12.360 --> 01:38:13.360]  No?
[01:38:13.360 --> 01:38:19.360]  That's like saying that the cause of death was lead poisoning when it was a gunshot wound to the head.
[01:38:19.360 --> 01:38:25.360]  Well, also, the fact that Linda and the gang have been in there every Thursday,
[01:38:25.360 --> 01:38:34.360]  and the fact that you went up there and told your piece, it's like they have a responsibility to evaluate all the evidence.
[01:38:34.360 --> 01:38:39.360]  They can't just say, well, we're not going to listen to Linda, and we're not going to listen to our constituents,
[01:38:39.360 --> 01:38:44.360]  and we're not going to listen to Dr. Connett because the CDC said this and that.
[01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:49.360]  I mean, they are responsible for all the information that comes to them.
[01:38:49.360 --> 01:38:53.360]  But they're going to claim that they're not scientists, they're not doctors, they're not dentists.
[01:38:53.360 --> 01:39:00.360]  How can they resolve the issue between two sets of experts?
[01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:05.360]  But even the CDC and the ADA say babies should get zero fluoride.
[01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:08.360]  Oh, absolutely. That's where we've got really firm ground.
[01:39:08.360 --> 01:39:09.360]  There you go.
[01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:11.360]  Yeah, there we go.
[01:39:11.360 --> 01:39:18.360]  All we have to do is convince an ordinary person of reasonable prudence.
[01:39:18.360 --> 01:39:22.360]  That's what our jury is. That's what these guys have to deal with.
[01:39:22.360 --> 01:39:27.360]  When we start talking about them putting this in baby formula,
[01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:34.360]  if you're going to court and you really want the jury on your side, wave a puppy dog at them or a baby.
[01:39:34.360 --> 01:39:36.360]  And pets are affected, too.
[01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:40.360]  Yeah, the dogs are very vulnerable to fluoride, absolutely, and horses.
[01:39:40.360 --> 01:39:45.360]  You wave cats and dogs in front of the jury, they're toast.
[01:39:45.360 --> 01:39:50.360]  I mean, that may sound facetious, but that is real.
[01:39:50.360 --> 01:39:57.360]  People will be more angry at you for hurting a pet than a child.
[01:39:57.360 --> 01:40:01.360]  All right, so folks, if you want to be party to the lawsuit, a co-plaintiff,
[01:40:01.360 --> 01:40:05.360]  and there's no liability here as the plaintiff, you call the shots.
[01:40:05.360 --> 01:40:25.360]  Actually, email info at fluoridefreeaustin.com.
[01:40:25.360 --> 01:40:27.360]  Instead of emailing me, email Linda.
[01:40:27.360 --> 01:40:33.360]  Let's let Linda do the legwork for organizing the list because I've got so much on my plate right now,
[01:40:33.360 --> 01:40:36.360]  we've got to start putting together this lawsuit.
[01:40:36.360 --> 01:40:40.360]  They'll actually be reaching Ray Nadler Olenek.
[01:40:40.360 --> 01:40:44.360]  She has had a wonderful college student help her with our website,
[01:40:44.360 --> 01:40:51.360]  and so they'll be sending that info to Ray, who's not able to speak tonight.
[01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:55.360]  You know, there's a wonderful resource that you have here in Austin.
[01:40:55.360 --> 01:40:58.360]  It's a person I've known for over 20 years.
[01:40:58.360 --> 01:41:03.360]  I've worked with him on environmental issues, and that's Dr. Neil Carman.
[01:41:03.360 --> 01:41:07.360]  He used to work with the Air Pollution Authority in Texas.
[01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:12.360]  He's now one of the experts in the Sierra Club.
[01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:18.360]  He knows, I think a lot of people know and respect Dr. Neil Carman,
[01:41:18.360 --> 01:41:24.360]  and he's been very involved in trying to stop Austin fluoridating its water.
[01:41:24.360 --> 01:41:29.360]  And Dr. Neil Carman of the Sierra Club has sent the City Water Utilities,
[01:41:29.360 --> 01:41:35.360]  the Austin Environmental Board, as well as the City Council an enormous amount of information,
[01:41:35.360 --> 01:41:39.360]  especially when they came out with a whitewash job.
[01:41:39.360 --> 01:41:42.360]  He sent them about a 14-page rebuttal,
[01:41:42.360 --> 01:41:47.360]  and he did let them know that the National Sierra Club has come out
[01:41:47.360 --> 01:41:53.360]  and said that they do not recommend fluoridating our water, the National Sierra Club.
[01:41:53.360 --> 01:41:56.360]  And you know, there's one thing that people should know,
[01:41:56.360 --> 01:42:01.360]  and there's no argument about the fact that fluoride,
[01:42:01.360 --> 01:42:04.360]  naturally occurring fluoride, damages health,
[01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:12.360]  because millions of people in India, China, parts of Africa and Mexico have been damaged by fluoride.
[01:42:12.360 --> 01:42:14.360]  No question about that, no argument.
[01:42:14.360 --> 01:42:19.360]  The only argument is about whether or not there's an adequate margin of safety
[01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:24.360]  between the doses which cause harm in India, China and elsewhere
[01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:29.360]  and the doses that people are likely to get in a fluoridated community.
[01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:32.360]  And that's when you get into the preposterous notion of this practice,
[01:42:32.360 --> 01:42:35.360]  because you can't control the dose.
[01:42:35.360 --> 01:42:38.360]  Some people drink a very large amount of water,
[01:42:38.360 --> 01:42:42.360]  and babies proportionally, because they have such small body weight,
[01:42:42.360 --> 01:42:48.360]  are impacted by even the same, they drink almost the same amount as adults,
[01:42:48.360 --> 01:42:51.360]  maybe three quarters of the amount of water that some adults drink,
[01:42:51.360 --> 01:42:54.360]  but their body weight is so small.
[01:42:54.360 --> 01:42:58.360]  So you can't control the dose, you can't control who gets it,
[01:42:58.360 --> 01:43:02.360]  and yet we know the substance has caused enormous health damage
[01:43:02.360 --> 01:43:06.360]  in India, China and other places in the world.
[01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:08.360]  In four parts per million.
[01:43:08.360 --> 01:43:16.360]  Yeah, and also the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, in 2003,
[01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:23.360]  asked the National Research Council to examine the toxicology of fluoride in water
[01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:30.360]  to see if their drinking water standard of four parts per million was safe.
[01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:34.360]  Well, the National Research Council spent three years, looked at all the data,
[01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:39.360]  came back with a 507-page report and said your standard is not safe.
[01:43:39.360 --> 01:43:41.360]  It needs to be lowered.
[01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:47.360]  And that was four years ago, and they still have not done the necessary analysis.
[01:43:47.360 --> 01:43:50.360]  The EPA still hasn't done anything about this report.
[01:43:50.360 --> 01:43:51.360]  No, no.
[01:43:51.360 --> 01:43:53.360]  The city has imputed knowledge.
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[01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:27.360]  Okay, so this is amazing.
[01:46:27.360 --> 01:46:30.360]  The National Research Council comes out with this report.
[01:46:30.360 --> 01:46:34.360]  It's four years old, and the EPA still has not revised its standards.
[01:46:34.360 --> 01:46:38.360]  But as far as strategy for lawsuits is concerned,
[01:46:38.360 --> 01:46:41.360]  I don't think it's such a good move to try to sue the EPA.
[01:46:41.360 --> 01:46:46.360]  I don't really in general think it's a good idea to go after the feds that much
[01:46:46.360 --> 01:46:50.360]  to try to make it filter down to the local level.
[01:46:50.360 --> 01:46:54.360]  We need to go after the perps, the culprits themselves who are responsible
[01:46:54.360 --> 01:46:57.360]  for making the decision to put it in the water.
[01:46:57.360 --> 01:46:59.360]  And as Randy says, they are responsible at this point.
[01:46:59.360 --> 01:47:03.360]  There's plenty of data, plenty of reports out there.
[01:47:03.360 --> 01:47:05.360]  You sue one city.
[01:47:05.360 --> 01:47:09.360]  Every city in the country will know.
[01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:10.360]  They'll get a report.
[01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:12.360]  Everybody will know what we're doing to them.
[01:47:12.360 --> 01:47:18.360]  Hey, Randy, does the water treatment plant count as motorized equipment?
[01:47:18.360 --> 01:47:19.360]  That's a good point.
[01:47:19.360 --> 01:47:24.360]  They'll probably argue around that one.
[01:47:24.360 --> 01:47:26.360]  Well, if it's got a motor, it's motorized equipment.
[01:47:26.360 --> 01:47:32.360]  Okay, Doctor, the reason he said that is if you are injured by a public employee
[01:47:32.360 --> 01:47:37.360]  while operating a motorized piece of equipment that belongs to the city,
[01:47:37.360 --> 01:47:42.360]  the city waives its sovereign immunity.
[01:47:42.360 --> 01:47:47.360]  And we actually did tour the water treatment plant here in Austin,
[01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:55.360]  and it is injected 1,200 tons a year or injected into our water from a machine.
[01:47:55.360 --> 01:47:57.360]  With a motor, I'm sure.
[01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:00.360]  It's not just shoveled in by hand.
[01:48:00.360 --> 01:48:02.360]  All right, we've got a caller on the line.
[01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:06.360]  Callers, listeners, if you'd like to ask Dr. Paul Connett a question
[01:48:06.360 --> 01:48:09.360]  or speak with Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin,
[01:48:09.360 --> 01:48:11.360]  we are in our final segment here.
[01:48:11.360 --> 01:48:14.360]  This is a fabulous opportunity to talk to Dr. Connett.
[01:48:14.360 --> 01:48:17.360]  We've got Mitchell in Texas on the line.
[01:48:17.360 --> 01:48:19.360]  Mitchell, thank you for calling in.
[01:48:19.360 --> 01:48:22.360]  What is your question or comment on the fluoride issue?
[01:48:22.360 --> 01:48:26.360]  On the aspect of who to sue or who to go after,
[01:48:26.360 --> 01:48:31.360]  it's my opinion that you go after the person actually doing the crime,
[01:48:31.360 --> 01:48:33.360]  not the person who told them to do it.
[01:48:33.360 --> 01:48:36.360]  You go to the person who's actually doing it.
[01:48:36.360 --> 01:48:42.360]  In that regard, I had hoped to find something in the Texas Occupations Code
[01:48:42.360 --> 01:48:48.360]  regarding practice of medicine without a license is prohibited,
[01:48:48.360 --> 01:48:50.360]  but I think there's something better.
[01:48:50.360 --> 01:48:58.360]  256.001 of the Occupations Code is under the dental section,
[01:48:58.360 --> 01:49:02.360]  and it says a person may not practice or offer to practice dentistry
[01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:06.360]  or dental surgery or represent that the person practices dentistry
[01:49:06.360 --> 01:49:09.360]  unless the person holds a license issued by the board.
[01:49:09.360 --> 01:49:16.360]  Then section 251.003 says practice of dentistry for purposes of this subtitle.
[01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:20.360]  A person practices dentistry if the person,
[01:49:20.360 --> 01:49:22.360]  and then you sort of got to read on further,
[01:49:22.360 --> 01:49:26.360]  but one of them is directly or indirectly offers, undertakes,
[01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:32.360]  or causes another to perform for any person an act, service,
[01:49:32.360 --> 01:49:36.360]  or part of an act or service in the practices of dentistry,
[01:49:36.360 --> 01:49:39.360]  including aiding or abetting the practice of dentistry
[01:49:39.360 --> 01:49:43.360]  by a person not licensed by the board to practice dentistry.
[01:49:43.360 --> 01:49:47.360]  And then the kicker, getting back to your injunction, Deborah,
[01:49:47.360 --> 01:49:53.360]  is 264.051, again under the dental subsection, says injunction.
[01:49:53.360 --> 01:49:59.360]  The state shall file suit for injunction against the person who practices
[01:49:59.360 --> 01:50:03.360]  or intends to practice dentistry in violation of state law.
[01:50:03.360 --> 01:50:06.360]  The suit shall be filed in the county in which the defendant practices
[01:50:06.360 --> 01:50:08.360]  or intends to practice dentistry.
[01:50:08.360 --> 01:50:13.360]  Then subsection B, the state is not required to demonstrate
[01:50:13.360 --> 01:50:17.360]  that any person was injured by the alleged prohibited practice.
[01:50:17.360 --> 01:50:19.360]  Wow.
[01:50:19.360 --> 01:50:22.360]  Yeah, now here's a good point to add to that.
[01:50:22.360 --> 01:50:26.360]  Considering what it says there, Randy,
[01:50:26.360 --> 01:50:29.360]  this would mean that if the city wishes to have a defense,
[01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:34.360]  they would have to name some dentist that acted in accordance with city policy
[01:50:34.360 --> 01:50:39.360]  to allow this to go in, and all of this falls directly on his head.
[01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:40.360]  No, no, wait, wait, no, no, no.
[01:50:40.360 --> 01:50:44.360]  They would have to put a dentist in that full-air charged acid suit
[01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:47.360]  to get him out there putting that crap in the water.
[01:50:47.360 --> 01:50:52.360]  Yeah, and I would also think that there would have to be at least four dentists
[01:50:52.360 --> 01:50:56.360]  on the city council because they are the ones who are actually at the heart
[01:50:56.360 --> 01:50:59.360]  of practicing dentistry because they're the ones that make the decision.
[01:50:59.360 --> 01:51:02.360]  And Mitchell, while I agree with you of suing the people
[01:51:02.360 --> 01:51:04.360]  who are actually putting it in the water,
[01:51:04.360 --> 01:51:07.360]  the city council members themselves are directly responsible
[01:51:07.360 --> 01:51:10.360]  because they are the ones who have decided to do this
[01:51:10.360 --> 01:51:13.360]  and to use city funds to make it happen.
[01:51:13.360 --> 01:51:18.360]  So I say there needs to be a list of co-defendants, the city of Austin itself,
[01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:25.360]  the city council members who voted for this personally, and the individuals,
[01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:27.360]  the humans who are actually putting it in the water.
[01:51:27.360 --> 01:51:32.360]  All of them need to be on the co-defendant list as well as the director
[01:51:32.360 --> 01:51:34.360]  of the health department.
[01:51:34.360 --> 01:51:37.360]  I have to get a point on that though.
[01:51:37.360 --> 01:51:45.360]  In 1971 or whatever, wasn't it a citizens referendum that essentially instructed
[01:51:45.360 --> 01:51:52.360]  the city council at that time to provide or to inject fluoride into the water?
[01:51:52.360 --> 01:51:58.360]  It started out as a referendum, but it was a city council that voted it in.
[01:51:58.360 --> 01:52:02.360]  But again, just sort of playing with the reality of the council.
[01:52:02.360 --> 01:52:03.360]  They're still responsible.
[01:52:03.360 --> 01:52:07.360]  They could make an argument that, well, we were just following the citizens.
[01:52:07.360 --> 01:52:09.360]  But it wasn't that.
[01:52:09.360 --> 01:52:12.360]  There are new city council members now that have new information,
[01:52:12.360 --> 01:52:14.360]  so they can't fall back on that.
[01:52:14.360 --> 01:52:17.360]  Monkey see, monkey do does not apply in law.
[01:52:17.360 --> 01:52:19.360]  Look, you're preaching in the choir there.
[01:52:19.360 --> 01:52:25.360]  I guess my main point was to point out there seems to be very easy to prove
[01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:27.360]  violations of state law here.
[01:52:27.360 --> 01:52:28.360]  That's good.
[01:52:28.360 --> 01:52:33.360]  A directives in the law that says what shall be the remedy.
[01:52:33.360 --> 01:52:42.360]  We sue the actor who put it in and name the council respondeet superior.
[01:52:42.360 --> 01:52:43.360]  Right.
[01:52:43.360 --> 01:52:44.360]  I'm going to jump off.
[01:52:44.360 --> 01:52:47.360]  They're all going to be on the list, every single one of them,
[01:52:47.360 --> 01:52:51.360]  and they're going to have to hire their own attorneys to petition
[01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:54.360]  and file motions to get themselves dismissed as defendants.
[01:52:54.360 --> 01:52:57.360]  And remember, the plaintiffs, you know,
[01:52:57.360 --> 01:53:01.360]  it's the plaintiffs that can decide what defendants to dismiss
[01:53:01.360 --> 01:53:04.360]  and what defendants not dismiss or the court can.
[01:53:04.360 --> 01:53:07.360]  But the bottom line is once they're named as defendants,
[01:53:07.360 --> 01:53:09.360]  they're in hot water, so to speak.
[01:53:09.360 --> 01:53:10.360]  All right.
[01:53:10.360 --> 01:53:11.360]  We've got a couple of other callers on the line.
[01:53:11.360 --> 01:53:12.360]  We've only got five minutes left.
[01:53:12.360 --> 01:53:13.360]  We've got Jimbo in Texas.
[01:53:13.360 --> 01:53:17.360]  What is your question or comment for Dr. Paul Connett?
[01:53:17.360 --> 01:53:19.360]  Yeah, Paul, I saw your brave new book Saturday night.
[01:53:19.360 --> 01:53:22.360]  Thank you so much for coming to Austin.
[01:53:22.360 --> 01:53:28.360]  And how are things looking in terms of us succeeding to actually get
[01:53:28.360 --> 01:53:32.360]  the fluoride out of the water in Austin, in your opinion?
[01:53:32.360 --> 01:53:37.360]  Well, I think you've got tremendous resources here and a lot of energy.
[01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:42.360]  And quite frankly, I've been startled by this discussion tonight.
[01:53:42.360 --> 01:53:46.360]  I've learned a lot tonight listening to our legal friends here.
[01:53:46.360 --> 01:53:51.360]  So I think if you add to the legal expertise that we have here,
[01:53:51.360 --> 01:53:56.360]  plus the scientific expertise of people like Neil Kalman
[01:53:56.360 --> 01:54:00.360]  and Bill Keele from Alamo Heights who's helping,
[01:54:00.360 --> 01:54:06.360]  and these wonderful activists, Linda Green and Ray Nadler and Rob Love,
[01:54:06.360 --> 01:54:12.360]  and the wonderful people at the Brave New World Bookstore, Brave New Bookstore.
[01:54:12.360 --> 01:54:13.360]  Brave New Books.
[01:54:13.360 --> 01:54:15.360]  Yeah, Brave New Books.
[01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:20.360]  And the university people, yeah, I think you've got tremendous potential here.
[01:54:20.360 --> 01:54:26.360]  We wouldn't have named Austin, Texas as being one of our top three cities
[01:54:26.360 --> 01:54:31.360]  to fight this campaign if we didn't have a lot of confidence in you folks,
[01:54:31.360 --> 01:54:35.360]  but that's been reinforced in my visit over the last few days.
[01:54:35.360 --> 01:54:37.360]  Well, and check out our listeners, too.
[01:54:37.360 --> 01:54:39.360]  Mitchell calls in with another angle on this.
[01:54:39.360 --> 01:54:41.360]  They're practicing dentistry without a license.
[01:54:41.360 --> 01:54:43.360]  That's brilliant. That's absolutely brilliant.
[01:54:43.360 --> 01:54:44.360]  I love it.
[01:54:44.360 --> 01:54:45.360]  Yeah.
[01:54:45.360 --> 01:54:46.360]  Okay, thank you, Jimbo.
[01:54:46.360 --> 01:54:47.360]  Thank you.
[01:54:47.360 --> 01:54:49.360]  All right, we've got another caller on the line here.
[01:54:49.360 --> 01:54:52.360]  We've got Michael Anthony from New York.
[01:54:52.360 --> 01:54:55.360]  Michael Anthony, what is your question or comment for Dr. Paul Connett
[01:54:55.360 --> 01:54:57.360]  concerning the fluoride issue?
[01:54:57.360 --> 01:54:58.360]  Hi, team.
[01:54:58.360 --> 01:54:59.360]  Good job tonight.
[01:54:59.360 --> 01:55:00.360]  Excellent.
[01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:01.360]  Dr. Connett, I love you.
[01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:02.360]  God bless you.
[01:55:02.360 --> 01:55:06.360]  I get emails all the time, and I've been following your fluoride path
[01:55:06.360 --> 01:55:07.360]  and what you're doing.
[01:55:07.360 --> 01:55:11.360]  Now, when you guys go ahead with going after the city of Austin,
[01:55:11.360 --> 01:55:13.360]  is that going to be available?
[01:55:13.360 --> 01:55:16.360]  Because I want to do the same thing to our little town that I belong to.
[01:55:16.360 --> 01:55:20.360]  Well, of course, because once we file the lawsuit, it's a public document,
[01:55:20.360 --> 01:55:24.360]  so yes, but we're not going to post the document until it's filed.
[01:55:24.360 --> 01:55:28.360]  Michael, which town in New York are you from?
[01:55:28.360 --> 01:55:30.360]  South of Buffalo.
[01:55:30.360 --> 01:55:31.360]  Oh, okay.
[01:55:31.360 --> 01:55:33.360]  South of Buffalo, New York.
[01:55:33.360 --> 01:55:34.360]  Excellent, excellent.
[01:55:34.360 --> 01:55:37.360]  Well, we got it out of Canton, New York,
[01:55:37.360 --> 01:55:40.360]  and you know they don't fluoridate Albany, the capital of New York,
[01:55:40.360 --> 01:55:43.360]  and there's no fluoridation in Long Island,
[01:55:43.360 --> 01:55:46.360]  so we've got quite a number of problems.
[01:55:46.360 --> 01:55:50.360]  And Ithaca, Ithaca, a university town, does not fluoridate its water,
[01:55:50.360 --> 01:55:54.360]  so we have a lot of good places that are not fluoridated.
[01:55:54.360 --> 01:55:55.360]  I was just in Ithaca.
[01:55:55.360 --> 01:55:56.360]  Well, we should have gone home like that.
[01:55:56.360 --> 01:56:00.360]  I should have took a bath while I was there.
[01:56:00.360 --> 01:56:02.360]  Yeah, you should have.
[01:56:02.360 --> 01:56:03.360]  That's great.
[01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:04.360]  All right, anything else, Michael?
[01:56:04.360 --> 01:56:07.360]  Yeah, my cousin works in the water treatment plant,
[01:56:07.360 --> 01:56:09.360]  and I spoke to him about the fluoride,
[01:56:09.360 --> 01:56:14.360]  and he said they have to do it because they're mandated by the state of New York.
[01:56:14.360 --> 01:56:19.360]  Well, fortunately, in Texas, there's not a state mandate.
[01:56:19.360 --> 01:56:23.360]  Okay, well, is there any way we could go after the state in this issue?
[01:56:23.360 --> 01:56:26.360]  Well, the new state does not have mandatory fluoridation.
[01:56:26.360 --> 01:56:28.360]  Yeah, how does Ithaca not?
[01:56:28.360 --> 01:56:32.360]  I think your guy has been pulling the wool over his eyes.
[01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:33.360]  Yeah.
[01:56:33.360 --> 01:56:35.360]  Well, he's been told some misinformation.
[01:56:35.360 --> 01:56:38.360]  Yeah, they haven't been mandated from New York State.
[01:56:38.360 --> 01:56:42.360]  They'd be mandated maybe from the local council
[01:56:42.360 --> 01:56:46.360]  by either a council decision.
[01:56:46.360 --> 01:56:48.360]  All right, Michael, listen, we're almost at the end of the show.
[01:56:48.360 --> 01:56:50.360]  Thank you for calling in.
[01:56:50.360 --> 01:56:51.360]  Thank you very much.
[01:56:51.360 --> 01:56:52.360]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:56:52.360 --> 01:56:54.360]  Okay, we've just got a couple of minutes left.
[01:56:54.360 --> 01:56:58.360]  Dr. Khanna, any closing comments, please?
[01:56:58.360 --> 01:57:00.360]  Well, you've given me a lot of hope tonight,
[01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:04.360]  and I think what we're asking for is an absolute minimum,
[01:57:04.360 --> 01:57:08.360]  and that is that the warning notice goes out to parents.
[01:57:08.360 --> 01:57:11.360]  The parents should know whether they think it's good
[01:57:11.360 --> 01:57:15.360]  or that the dental ferocis is acceptable or not.
[01:57:15.360 --> 01:57:16.360]  It doesn't matter.
[01:57:16.360 --> 01:57:20.360]  Parents need to be warned before their children develop this thing,
[01:57:20.360 --> 01:57:22.360]  and it's very easy.
[01:57:22.360 --> 01:57:26.360]  I mean, if you're bottle-feeding your baby,
[01:57:26.360 --> 01:57:29.360]  don't use fluoridated tap water.
[01:57:29.360 --> 01:57:31.360]  We at least should begin with that,
[01:57:31.360 --> 01:57:36.360]  but I'm very excited about the potential of these lawsuits seeking injunction.
[01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:38.360]  Yes, injunction.
[01:57:38.360 --> 01:57:42.360]  We're going to seek injunction that the warnings be posted on the water bills
[01:57:42.360 --> 01:57:47.360]  until such time that action can be taken to get the fluoride out of the water.
[01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:49.360]  We're not going to just stop at that.
[01:57:49.360 --> 01:57:54.360]  And, Linda, you wanted to plug a YouTube video that you want folks to make it go viral?
[01:57:54.360 --> 01:57:55.360]  Yes.
[01:57:55.360 --> 01:58:00.360]  All three of our speakers last Thursday in front of City Council are on YouTube,
[01:58:00.360 --> 01:58:05.360]  and you can go to Dr. Paul Connett speaks to Austin City Council
[01:58:05.360 --> 01:58:08.360]  and come out tomorrow night to Houston-Tillerson University
[01:58:08.360 --> 01:58:12.360]  and hear him speak for two more hours and get educated.
[01:58:12.360 --> 01:58:17.360]  All right, and you can go to fluoridefreeaustin.com, spell it flu, makes you sick.
[01:58:17.360 --> 01:58:25.360]  You can go to fluoridealert.org to see the website of Dr. Paul Connett.
[01:58:25.360 --> 01:58:27.360]  He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network.
[01:58:27.360 --> 01:58:29.360]  Dr. Connett, thank you for spending so much time with us tonight.
[01:58:29.360 --> 01:58:30.360]  We really appreciate it.
[01:58:30.360 --> 01:58:32.360]  It's been an inspiration listening to you guys.
[01:58:32.360 --> 01:58:33.360]  Thank you.
[01:58:33.360 --> 01:58:34.360]  Thank you.
[01:58:34.360 --> 01:58:37.360]  All right, folks, and we will resume with traffic night.
[01:58:37.360 --> 01:58:42.360]  Eddie's traffic night will be resumed on Thursday, this coming Thursday.
[01:58:42.360 --> 01:58:47.360]  Y'all have a very blessed evening.
[01:59:12.360 --> 01:59:14.360]  Thank you.
[01:59:42.360 --> 01:59:44.360]  Thank you.