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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.640]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:04.640 --> 00:07.840]  The U.S. military has apologized for killing several civilians,
[00:07.840 --> 00:11.760]  including an eight-year-old girl in two attacks in Afghanistan.
[00:11.760 --> 00:16.480]  On Sunday, insurgents fired on a police checkpoint and U.S. base.
[00:16.480 --> 00:21.120]  U.S. troops returned fire and later discovered they had killed two civilians.
[00:21.120 --> 00:24.800]  On Saturday, the U.S. military killed several Taliban commanders
[00:24.800 --> 00:28.320]  in an air assault on a meeting of Taliban leaders.
[00:28.320 --> 00:30.480]  Three civilians were among the dead.
[00:30.480 --> 00:32.960]  Two NATO soldiers were also killed Saturday.
[00:34.880 --> 00:39.600]  Israeli settlers Monday set a mosque on fire, desecrated prayer rugs
[00:39.600 --> 00:44.800]  and brandished mosque walls with anti-Arab slogans in the occupied West Bank.
[00:44.800 --> 00:48.720]  Israel's announcement, it will investigate, was met with skepticism.
[00:48.720 --> 00:53.520]  A recent report by Amnesty International found impunity remains the norm
[00:53.520 --> 00:59.760]  for settlers accused of vandalism and physical attacks on Palestinians.
[00:59.760 --> 01:03.200]  A UK think tank says taxpayers should brace themselves
[01:03.200 --> 01:06.720]  for another multi-billion dollar bailout of Britain's banks.
[01:06.720 --> 01:11.440]  The New Economics Foundation warned in a report financial institutions face
[01:11.440 --> 01:15.360]  a funding shortfall next year as existing borrowing ends,
[01:15.360 --> 01:18.960]  forcing them to look for another 250 billion dollars a year.
[01:18.960 --> 01:22.320]  The group said banks were unlikely to make up the shortfall
[01:22.320 --> 01:24.160]  by making more money from customers.
[01:26.080 --> 01:29.280]  Iraq's oil minister Monday sharply boosted the estimate
[01:29.280 --> 01:34.240]  of his country's proven reserves of oil to 143 billion barrels,
[01:34.240 --> 01:39.360]  a 24% increase that displaces Iran as having the world's second largest
[01:39.360 --> 01:41.360]  deposits of conventional crude oil.
[01:42.000 --> 01:47.600]  Hussein al-Sharistani said Iraq currently exports roughly 2 million barrels a day
[01:47.600 --> 01:50.400]  and hopes new production from the 10 oil fields
[01:50.400 --> 01:55.200]  awarded during two recent international auctions will raise overall output
[01:55.200 --> 02:00.240]  to 12 million barrels a day by 2017, a level that would put it nearly on par
[02:00.240 --> 02:02.480]  with Saudi Arabia's current production.
[02:02.480 --> 02:08.240]  For years Iraq's proven reserves of crude have been listed at 115 billion barrels.
[02:08.240 --> 02:12.240]  That figure meant Iraq was listed as having the world's third largest
[02:12.240 --> 02:14.160]  proven reserves of conventional crude.
[02:14.160 --> 02:18.720]  Researchers say levels of some cancer-causing oil compounds rose significantly
[02:18.720 --> 02:21.760]  in the Gulf of Mexico during the BP spill.
[02:21.760 --> 02:26.560]  Kim Anderson, an environmental toxicology professor with Oregon State University,
[02:26.560 --> 02:32.400]  said, quote, it's an incredibly huge jump in concentration in a natural environment.
[02:32.400 --> 02:37.760]  Anderson found a 40-fold increase in polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons,
[02:37.760 --> 02:40.960]  or PAHs, from May to June.
[02:40.960 --> 02:44.560]  Anderson and her research team started testing the contaminants
[02:44.560 --> 02:47.520]  a few weeks after the April 20th well blowout,
[02:47.520 --> 03:11.840]  taking water samples at four locations along the Gulf Coast.
[03:18.400 --> 03:19.840]  Yeah.
[03:23.840 --> 03:29.200]  Bad boys, what you want, what you want, what you're gonna do
[03:29.200 --> 03:32.240]  When the sun is sunbroken for you?
[03:32.240 --> 03:40.240]  Tell me, what you wanna do, what you're gonna do?
[03:40.240 --> 03:42.160]  Yeah.
[03:42.160 --> 03:47.360]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do?
[03:47.360 --> 04:03.120]  Alright, good evening, folks. This is Rule of Law Radio. This is Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens.
[04:03.120 --> 04:08.000]  It's Monday night, traffic night. Tonight we're going to be playing an audio clip that's going
[04:08.000 --> 04:13.600]  to run pretty much the entirety of the show. This is my visit today with the Justice of the
[04:13.600 --> 04:18.960]  Peace and Precinct II here in Nacogdoches County regarding the Game Warden citations,
[04:20.000 --> 04:25.840]  along with an in-depth discussion of the transportation code and a few other things
[04:25.840 --> 04:32.160]  with the Sheriff of Nacogdoches County. I've got all this recorded. We'll start out at the
[04:32.160 --> 04:36.320]  Justice Court. She will send me to talk to the Sheriff based upon the criminal complaints I
[04:36.320 --> 04:43.840]  was going to file against the Game Wardens. He and I will get into a very lively debate over
[04:43.840 --> 04:50.240]  the meaning and intent of the transportation code and its purpose. And then I will go from there
[04:50.240 --> 04:57.120]  back to the Justice of the Peace in order to try and file my court documents, which the Justice
[04:57.120 --> 05:02.400]  refuses because she doesn't want me to file anything in the case until there's an actual
[05:02.400 --> 05:09.760]  complaint, which she acknowledged doesn't exist. So without further to do, let's get on with the
[05:09.760 --> 05:18.400]  audio dip. All right, today is October 4th. I am standing in front of the Justice of the Peace
[05:18.400 --> 05:23.040]  Precinct II building about to enter and begin discussion with the Clerk of the Court.
[05:23.040 --> 05:31.520]  We have a witness. Yeah, Michael Sullivan is with me as a witness as to what transpires.
[05:32.560 --> 05:37.760]  Hello ma'am, how are you? I need to see the court record associated with that citation, please.
[05:44.640 --> 05:47.360]  Either on the computer or in the folder is going to be the actual ticket.
[05:47.360 --> 05:52.400]  Okay, would you mind just verifying that, please?
[05:55.920 --> 05:57.600]  It's terrible how slow they are, isn't it?
[06:01.680 --> 06:07.600]  Could I get your name, ma'am? My name is Kay. Kay, K-A-Y? K-A-E. K-A-E.
[06:07.600 --> 06:17.920]  And last name? Ballard. B-A-L-L-A-R-D. Thank you, ma'am. And you're a
[06:18.480 --> 06:23.680]  Clerk of the Court or the Assistant Clerk? The Chief Deputy Clerk.
[06:23.680 --> 06:27.840]  Chief Deputy Clerk. You look like a Chief Deputy Clerk.
[06:27.840 --> 06:45.760]  Okay, so just to copy the actual ticket and the information I gave to the Game Warden,
[06:45.760 --> 06:57.760]  by any chance, would you happen to know upon what statutory provision a Game Warden utilizes to
[06:57.760 --> 07:04.720]  determine that he has the authority to enforce traffic statutes? I think they all do. Well,
[07:04.720 --> 07:10.240]  actually, Texas Administrative Code specifically says who is and who isn't, and anyone not listed
[07:10.240 --> 07:18.160]  there isn't, and Game Warden's not in it. I'd be the wrong person to ask. The Judge has been
[07:18.160 --> 07:25.360]  on vacation since we got this paperwork. She has not seen it yet. So, I mean, you can always call
[07:25.360 --> 07:29.520]  her out. Well, today is the day I'm supposed to be here, so what I don't want is somebody saying
[07:29.520 --> 07:35.760]  I didn't show up. Today is just the day that you need to let us know how you wanted to plead.
[07:35.760 --> 07:42.720]  Well, actually, I can't plead. I don't have anything telling me what the nature of the cause
[07:42.720 --> 07:48.880]  is. I don't have anything that tells me what I'm being charged with. This is not sufficient. It's
[07:48.880 --> 07:55.840]  not a valid charging instrument, so without knowing the nature and cause, I can't enter a plea. I don't
[07:55.840 --> 08:02.560]  know. All I could do is be pleading to murder, for all I know, because there's no criminal
[08:02.560 --> 08:08.640]  complaint. Basically, it is a plea form, and you can put on there what he has on there. It actually
[08:08.640 --> 08:16.960]  is a form over here, and it has some there. Okay, but this is still just asking me for a plea. This
[08:16.960 --> 08:22.560]  does not inform me as to the nature and cause against me. There's nothing on that citation or
[08:22.560 --> 08:27.840]  on this document that says, am I being charged administratively, civilly, or criminally? It is
[08:27.840 --> 08:32.720]  a criminal charge. Okay, and you're making that judicial determination? I mean, tickets are just
[08:32.720 --> 08:44.400]  criminal. All tickets are criminal? Okay. Basically, this on a before date is just saying that
[08:45.280 --> 08:50.640]  you have that up into that time frame to enter a plea if you disagree with your ticket.
[08:50.640 --> 08:57.200]  Okay. Well, but again, that's still not a valid charging instrument, nor is it a valid complaint.
[08:57.920 --> 09:04.000]  How can you enter a plea to an invalid instrument and a non-complaint? As I say to you,
[09:04.000 --> 09:09.120]  you'll need to talk with the judge, because I don't have the answers to the questions that you have.
[09:09.120 --> 09:13.920]  Okay, and when is the judge to be here? I don't know exactly what time she'll be here.
[09:13.920 --> 09:21.840]  Okay. As manually judges come in, we don't know what they are.
[09:24.880 --> 09:27.200]  So at this point, you don't even have a cause number?
[09:28.720 --> 09:33.200]  Basically, that is what she's about to do. That's what she has over here. She's putting in
[09:33.200 --> 09:36.080]  the tickets. I'll let her go ahead and give you a number.
[09:36.080 --> 09:42.720]  So you'll have a case number. If you don't establish anything,
[09:42.720 --> 09:47.200]  you should give her your number. Still not going to establish anything,
[09:47.200 --> 09:49.280]  but because we're still not a valid complaint.
[09:52.560 --> 09:56.800]  Sorry, I was working on something. All right, bye-bye.
[09:58.320 --> 10:03.280]  So is there a day and time when the magistrate is definitely here?
[10:03.280 --> 10:10.880]  She is here every day. I'm just saying, we come at 8 o'clock. If she had an inquest,
[10:10.880 --> 10:14.880]  we wouldn't know about that. Okay. Well, the reason I'm asking is,
[10:14.880 --> 10:19.920]  if this specifically says to be here on or before this day at 10 a.m., and I know I'm early right
[10:19.920 --> 10:26.320]  now. But you're fine. Like I said, that is the on or before date. If you say you disagree with
[10:26.320 --> 10:30.000]  your ticket, you would just fill out this form so you could stand up for court.
[10:30.000 --> 10:36.800]  Okay. Well, but again, I mean, I'm trying to be argumentative, but without a valid criminal
[10:36.800 --> 10:40.560]  complaint, there's no jurisdiction in the court. Okay.
[10:42.160 --> 10:45.600]  What I'm hearing from you, you don't agree with the ticket. You don't feel like he had the
[10:45.600 --> 10:50.400]  authority to give you the ticket. No, that's exactly right. I don't believe he did.
[10:50.400 --> 10:56.080]  And there's nothing for the court to hear without an actual complaint, because this,
[10:56.080 --> 11:00.960]  according to Chapter 15 and Chapter 45 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, does not meet any
[11:00.960 --> 11:07.360]  of the statutory requirements for a complaint. Okay. Now, these, however, do meet all the
[11:07.360 --> 11:10.640]  statutory requirements of a complaint. I mean, we can get you a complaint.
[11:10.640 --> 11:14.080]  That's not a problem. I don't have it yet. We just got the ticket.
[11:14.080 --> 11:18.880]  Well, but I mean, I understand that. But I mean, what I'm getting at is, if the court
[11:18.880 --> 11:23.920]  is going to go seeking a complaint, isn't the court acting on behalf of the prosecution at
[11:23.920 --> 11:26.400]  that point? No, the officer will have to bring a
[11:26.400 --> 11:28.960]  complaint here. Right. I understand that.
[11:28.960 --> 11:32.800]  No, no, no. I know you don't generate it. Okay. But I'm just saying that when the court
[11:32.800 --> 11:37.200]  goes to the officer and says, hey, you bring me one right now so I can get this guy in my
[11:37.200 --> 11:39.680]  system, aren't you acting as the prosecutor in that case?
[11:39.680 --> 11:46.960]  No, no. All I do is enter this ticket. Okay. Okay. Well, that being said, if it's
[11:46.960 --> 11:52.240]  all right, just let me know when she has the calls number. However, I would like to file
[11:52.240 --> 11:55.760]  copies of these with you, please, as soon as we have the calls number.
[11:55.760 --> 12:23.760]  Okay.
[12:23.760 --> 12:28.640]  I'm sorry. I missed that. Y'all don't actually get a complaint?
[12:28.640 --> 12:34.640]  It's the same as the probable cause. The officer gets just what we're saying is we
[12:34.640 --> 12:45.680]  don't do that. Right, right. Okay. I must say you ladies are
[12:45.680 --> 12:51.600]  infinitely more friendly and helpful than the municipal folks are. They act like everyone
[12:51.600 --> 12:56.080]  that walks up to their window is the Unabomber. They don't want to deal with you. They don't
[12:56.080 --> 13:06.240]  want to talk to you. Yeah, I mean, I'm avoiding ugly at all costs
[13:06.240 --> 13:16.880]  here, believe me. Well, I appreciate that. You're one of the
[13:16.880 --> 13:22.480]  very few I've ever talked to that actually does. Everybody else just wants to complain
[13:22.480 --> 13:28.680]  about how much extra work you're causing them. Well, if I have to do that, then that means
[13:28.680 --> 13:33.320]  I've got to go and do this and this. Yeah, but that's what the law says you're supposed
[13:33.320 --> 13:41.000]  to be doing. Yeah. It has astounded me over the years exactly
[13:41.000 --> 13:48.000]  how many public servants don't understand that. Oh, God.
[13:48.000 --> 14:00.120]  This is the case number. 101320. And that's the cause on all? That's
[14:00.120 --> 14:03.720]  the entire cause number for the whole ticket? That's going to be the case number.
[14:03.720 --> 14:07.920]  Well, now, is case and cause number the same thing in your book? Okay. I just want to make
[14:07.920 --> 14:11.320]  sure. Yeah, because I think on here it may say cause
[14:11.320 --> 14:12.320]  number. Okay.
[14:12.320 --> 14:16.840]  All right. That's what it would be entered under here.
[14:16.840 --> 14:20.560]  Now, before I go through the trouble of doing all these right here, I want to make sure
[14:20.560 --> 14:26.720]  that you are going to accept that. That is a standard criminal complaint. And it is my
[14:26.720 --> 14:33.720]  understanding that anyone that can administer an oath of office in Texas can accept and
[14:33.720 --> 14:39.640]  file the criminal complaint as required by law. You're wanting to do a complaint against
[14:39.640 --> 14:43.160]  the officer? Yes, ma'am. If the officer acted without jurisdiction
[14:43.160 --> 14:50.080]  and authority, he committed a crime. Okay. He's with the?
[14:50.080 --> 14:54.480]  State Game Warden. Let me just ask someone that has been here
[14:54.480 --> 15:03.480]  a moment. I was told he's with the Texas Department of Public Wildlife. You have to go to his
[15:03.480 --> 15:05.320]  office. For a criminal complaint?
[15:05.320 --> 15:11.080]  He said, because it's against the officer. Right, but that would be just a complaining
[15:11.080 --> 15:17.280]  complaint. Go to his boss. This is not. This is a criminal complaint. Any magistrate in
[15:17.280 --> 15:21.920]  Texas can take a criminal complaint. I will take it, and like I said, I can give
[15:21.920 --> 15:27.120]  it to the judge when she comes. Okay. And I'm sorry, but who did you seek
[15:27.120 --> 15:30.760]  the information from? I just went down the halls to find out what
[15:30.760 --> 15:36.280]  department. They have an office down there, and I wanted to find out who the complaint
[15:36.280 --> 15:40.680]  would go to, but no one's in that office. Yeah, that's what the type of complaint you're
[15:40.680 --> 15:45.960]  referring to is actually one that's just complaining about something he did. This isn't. This is
[15:45.960 --> 15:52.480]  a criminal complaint. And under Code of Criminal Procedure 2.10
[15:52.480 --> 16:01.240]  and 2.11, these should get forwarded to the grand jury.
[16:01.240 --> 16:05.120]  These are all separate? Yes, ma'am.
[16:05.120 --> 16:08.280]  Are they all the same thing? No, ma'am. They're all individual.
[16:08.280 --> 16:11.760]  Okay. And would you by any chance know who is to
[16:11.760 --> 16:20.280]  be the prosecuting attorney? The prosecuting attorney is Keith Bradford.
[16:20.280 --> 16:26.840]  By any chance, you wouldn't have specific contact information for the office, would
[16:26.840 --> 16:30.640]  you, illustrator? Okay, folks, we're about to go to break here,
[16:30.640 --> 16:34.520]  and I'll rewind this a little bit when we get back on the other side. This is how it's
[16:34.520 --> 16:38.520]  done, folks. Eddie, this is great. Thank you.
[16:38.520 --> 16:41.200]  I'm loving it. Hopefully we'll see that that's how it's
[16:41.200 --> 16:44.440]  done. She's like, you're filing a complaint against
[16:44.440 --> 16:49.000]  the officer? Yes, that's exactly what we're doing. He's
[16:49.000 --> 16:52.080]  the one that broke the law. Okay, folks, we'll be right back on the other
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[19:29.680 --> 19:45.680]  Okay, folks, we're back. We're playing this audio clip. And, Eddie, you were saying the
[19:45.680 --> 19:51.480]  judge wasn't there until she was walking in. Perfect timing, just as you were mentioning
[19:51.480 --> 19:52.480]  the grand jury, Eddie.
[19:52.480 --> 19:56.520]  That's right. She walked in just as I took the criminal complaints and handled them to
[19:56.520 --> 20:01.200]  the clerk and said that, according to Code of Criminal Procedure, these should be forwarded
[20:01.200 --> 20:05.360]  directly to the grand jury. I did get her to snap her head around as she was walking
[20:05.360 --> 20:12.120]  by when she heard those words, but it was actually a very pleasant experience compared
[20:12.120 --> 20:16.360]  to most of the ones I've had. But with that said, let's go ahead and pick back up.
[20:16.360 --> 20:32.800]  For a criminal complaint? Right, but that would be just a complaining complaint, go
[20:32.800 --> 20:38.920]  to his boss. This is not. This is a criminal complaint. Any magistrate in Texas can take
[20:38.920 --> 20:39.920]  a criminal complaint.
[20:39.920 --> 20:46.800]  I will take it and, like I said, I can give it to the judge when she comes.
[20:46.800 --> 20:49.080]  I'm sorry, but who did you seek the information from?
[20:49.080 --> 20:54.160]  I just went down to Halls to find out what department. They have an office down there,
[20:54.160 --> 21:00.280]  and I wanted to find out who the complaint would go to, but no one's in that office.
[21:00.280 --> 21:04.080]  What the type of complaint you're referring to is actually one that's just complaining
[21:04.080 --> 21:10.760]  about something he did. This isn't. This is a criminal complaint. Under Code of Criminal
[21:10.760 --> 21:21.680]  Procedure 2.10 and 2.11, these should get forwarded to the grand jury.
[21:21.680 --> 21:24.680]  These are all separate?
[21:24.680 --> 21:25.680]  Yes, ma'am.
[21:25.680 --> 21:26.680]  Are they all the same?
[21:26.680 --> 21:33.360]  No, ma'am. They're all individual. Would you by any chance know who is to be the prosecuting
[21:33.360 --> 21:34.360]  attorney?
[21:34.360 --> 21:41.120]  No. Of course, the county attorney is Keith Bradford.
[21:41.120 --> 21:42.120]  Keith Bradford?
[21:42.120 --> 21:43.120]  Keith.
[21:43.120 --> 21:47.560]  By any chance, you wouldn't have specific contact information for the office, would
[21:47.560 --> 21:48.560]  you? A street address?
[21:48.560 --> 21:49.560]  For the officer?
[21:49.560 --> 21:50.560]  For the office.
[21:50.560 --> 21:51.560]  For the detective?
[21:51.560 --> 21:57.560]  No, the county attorney. A mailing address, contact information.
[21:57.560 --> 22:12.480]  Okay, the deluge stopped. Oh, and I'm sorry. I forgot to put the calls number up on top
[22:12.480 --> 22:13.480]  of those.
[22:13.480 --> 22:14.480]  Let me get that.
[22:14.480 --> 22:15.480]  Okay, file that.
[22:15.480 --> 22:16.480]  It would be Jim, John Plymouth.
[22:16.480 --> 22:17.480]  John Plymouth, okay.
[22:17.480 --> 22:18.480]  And that's at the large courthouse up here?
[22:18.480 --> 22:25.440]  Yes, ma'am. I know where the office is. I just didn't know what the mailing address
[22:25.440 --> 22:33.200]  was before it was. Okay, now, those are what I'm going to file motion-wise at this time,
[22:33.200 --> 22:36.640]  and I need for you to please stamp my proof of service.
[22:36.640 --> 22:42.120]  What do you need to stamp for?
[22:42.120 --> 22:43.120]  The proof of service.
[22:43.120 --> 22:50.120]  Sir, could you give me a few minutes?
[22:50.120 --> 22:51.120]  Yes, ma'am.
[22:51.120 --> 22:58.120]  She's on the phone. I haven't got a chance to explain anything.
[22:58.120 --> 23:01.120]  You're filing a criminal complaint?
[23:01.120 --> 23:04.120]  Yes, ma'am. Several, actually.
[23:04.120 --> 23:09.120]  Okay. You file your criminal complaints through the sheriff's office, and you talk to one
[23:09.120 --> 23:10.120]  of the deputies of the detective.
[23:10.120 --> 23:14.120]  Actually, I'm going next door as soon as I'm finished here to talk to Sheriff Curse.
[23:14.120 --> 23:16.120]  Okay, you need to do that first.
[23:16.120 --> 23:19.120]  For her to file a criminal complaint?
[23:19.120 --> 23:26.120]  When you file your complaint, then they'll come, and if they're going to get a warrant
[23:26.120 --> 23:31.120]  or whatever, they'll come after you talk to them. They'll get your information.
[23:31.120 --> 23:36.120]  Okay, well, not trying to be argumentative with you or anything, but there's actually
[23:36.120 --> 23:41.120]  nothing in the law that directs a criminal complaint to any law enforcement. It's directed
[23:41.120 --> 23:45.120]  to a magistrate of the state, any magistrate of the state.
[23:45.120 --> 23:54.120]  Now, they determine that you have your detective, you have your sheriff.
[23:54.120 --> 23:59.120]  I'm not saying you have to give them your complaint, but you have to go and voice your
[23:59.120 --> 24:03.120]  opinion. Why are you doing this? Why are you taking this action?
[24:03.120 --> 24:07.120]  But I thought that was the purpose of the complaint, because it states all that. It's
[24:07.120 --> 24:11.120]  all written right into the criminal complaint as to what I believe the action is and why
[24:11.120 --> 24:17.120]  it occurred, that that's what it's for, and according to what the Code of Criminal Procedure
[24:17.120 --> 24:22.120]  says, even when you take them to the attorney for the state, which is your county or district
[24:22.120 --> 24:28.120]  attorney, according to Article 2.03, they have an absolute duty to ensure that criminal
[24:28.120 --> 24:33.120]  complaint goes directly to a district judge in the case of a felony or to any other magistrate
[24:33.120 --> 24:34.120]  in the case of a misdemeanor.
[24:34.120 --> 24:39.120]  Okay, to what degree of this complaint are you filing? What is it?
[24:39.120 --> 24:41.120]  There are misdemeanors and there are felonies.
[24:41.120 --> 24:43.120]  Okay, misdemeanor C?
[24:43.120 --> 24:46.120]  No, they're misdemeanor A and Bs.
[24:46.120 --> 24:52.120]  Okay, so that's the county court map, but then they come in...
[24:52.120 --> 24:56.120]  Let me get you an information.
[24:56.120 --> 25:02.120]  I do believe that was Judge Tigner Thompson, the one that was supposed to appear before
[25:02.120 --> 25:09.120]  this morning, giving me the advice to take the criminal complaint elsewhere, but we'll
[25:09.120 --> 25:13.120]  see in a moment. I haven't verified that, but I'll ask.
[25:13.120 --> 25:21.120]  Ms. Ballard?
[25:21.120 --> 25:24.120]  While she's checking on the criminal complaint stuff, can I go ahead and get these motions
[25:24.120 --> 25:25.120]  stamped, please?
[25:25.120 --> 25:28.120]  I have to wait until she tells me what to do.
[25:28.120 --> 25:29.120]  That is the judge.
[25:29.120 --> 25:31.120]  Okay, that's Judge Thompson?
[25:31.120 --> 25:32.120]  That's the judge.
[25:32.120 --> 25:33.120]  Thompson?
[25:33.120 --> 25:34.120]  Okay.
[25:34.120 --> 25:35.120]  So whenever she...
[25:35.120 --> 25:40.120]  Okay, but I mean, I can't file stuff in this case without her permission?
[25:40.120 --> 25:44.120]  I don't know, because I thought she was saying it was a county court case.
[25:44.120 --> 25:47.120]  Well, the criminal complaint is what she's talking about.
[25:47.120 --> 25:49.120]  Not this case, but the criminal complaint.
[25:49.120 --> 25:55.120]  The only thing I can file stamped that I know is this, but you're wanting something else
[25:55.120 --> 25:56.120]  to do with this.
[25:56.120 --> 26:01.120]  Well, I'm wanting to file motions in this case, and that's all I'm asking for is just
[26:01.120 --> 26:04.120]  a stamp showing I filed the motions with you.
[26:04.120 --> 26:05.120]  Okay.
[26:05.120 --> 26:10.120]  Before I stamp anything or file, I need to direct you around until the sheriff's office
[26:10.120 --> 26:15.120]  go around by the flagpole, the end of the door, the dispatch area, and then you come
[26:15.120 --> 26:16.120]  out and get it.
[26:16.120 --> 26:17.120]  Okay.
[26:17.120 --> 26:18.120]  All right.
[26:18.120 --> 26:25.120]  Okay, but I mean, these are just motions here for this case dealing with this citation.
[26:25.120 --> 26:28.120]  Can I file those?
[26:28.120 --> 26:30.120]  Go copy him for me.
[26:30.120 --> 26:31.120]  Okay.
[26:31.120 --> 26:34.120]  Are you a licensed attorney?
[26:34.120 --> 26:35.120]  Licensed attorney?
[26:35.120 --> 26:37.120]  No, ma'am, I am not an attorney.
[26:37.120 --> 26:42.120]  I always promised my mother I wouldn't grow up to be a crook.
[26:42.120 --> 26:45.120]  She was very insistent about that.
[26:45.120 --> 26:46.120]  Pardon me, please.
[26:46.120 --> 26:48.120]  I'm sorry.
[26:48.120 --> 26:50.120]  Hey, Larry, I'm in a meeting at the moment.
[26:50.120 --> 26:52.120]  Can I call you back?
[26:52.120 --> 26:54.120]  Thanks.
[26:54.120 --> 26:56.120]  I want to pause here and make a comment.
[26:56.120 --> 27:02.120]  I don't know if you listeners out there caught this, but the judge would not allow Eddie
[27:02.120 --> 27:09.120]  to file motions in his case in the citation against him without going and talking to the
[27:09.120 --> 27:11.120]  sheriff first.
[27:11.120 --> 27:16.120]  And not only that, the clerk of the court was saying she had to ask permission of the
[27:16.120 --> 27:20.120]  judge before letting Eddie file anything in his case.
[27:20.120 --> 27:23.120]  That is also a crime.
[27:23.120 --> 27:25.120]  Unbelievable.
[27:25.120 --> 27:28.120]  I think what they were trying to do is they were trying to be certain at that point the
[27:28.120 --> 27:31.120]  judge had raised some questions of her own.
[27:31.120 --> 27:33.120]  The clerks take their direction from the judge.
[27:33.120 --> 27:37.120]  And I'm not saying the judge was trying to do anything in this case, trying to do
[27:37.120 --> 27:38.120]  anything wrong.
[27:38.120 --> 27:41.120]  She wanted to make sure everything was actually going to the right place.
[27:41.120 --> 27:48.120]  In all fairness to her, at this point she was confusing my action dealing with the
[27:48.120 --> 27:55.120]  traffic citation with the separate action of me filing criminal complaints just
[27:55.120 --> 27:59.120]  happened to be against the same officers that issued the citation.
[27:59.120 --> 28:03.120]  I hope she was getting confused, but I'm not sure because you were clear.
[28:03.120 --> 28:04.120]  Well, she is.
[28:04.120 --> 28:05.120]  She and I discussed it.
[28:05.120 --> 28:09.120]  And that really was what the gist of it was that she was thinking that that's what I was
[28:09.120 --> 28:13.120]  trying to do was trying to do it as an all-in-one deal, and it wasn't.
[28:13.120 --> 28:16.120]  Yeah, even though you were very clear that these were motions in the citation that had
[28:16.120 --> 28:20.120]  nothing to do with the criminal charges against the officers.
[28:20.120 --> 28:23.120]  She just had not clearly made that distinction yet.
[28:23.120 --> 28:28.120]  But still she broke the law because the Code of Criminal Procedure directs the
[28:28.120 --> 28:34.120]  filing of criminal complaints to magistrates and district attorneys and grand
[28:34.120 --> 28:37.120]  juries, not to any law enforcement entity.
[28:37.120 --> 28:38.120]  Exactly.
[28:38.120 --> 28:42.120]  The grand jury by law is the one that is supposed to initiate the investigations.
[28:42.120 --> 28:48.120]  The entire purpose of the grand jury is to ensure that favoritism does not creep
[28:48.120 --> 28:53.120]  into the mix by the law enforcement or by any of the other agencies that may
[28:53.120 --> 28:57.120]  seek to protect the public official being charged.
[28:57.120 --> 29:02.120]  The grand jury is there to initiate the investigation to ensure that does not
[29:02.120 --> 29:06.120]  happen, or at least it's lessened to some degree.
[29:06.120 --> 29:10.120]  Yes, and that's why complaints are also directed to magistrates so that the
[29:10.120 --> 29:15.120]  magistrate will hold an examining trial for finding a probable cause.
[29:15.120 --> 29:19.120]  Exactly, so that it can then be forwarded to the grand jury who then is
[29:19.120 --> 29:24.120]  responsible for telling the law enforcement agency, go do this
[29:24.120 --> 29:29.120]  investigation, get us more information, find out if there's any evidence,
[29:29.120 --> 29:33.120]  bring it back to us, we will examine it, and we will hand down an indictment if
[29:33.120 --> 29:35.120]  there's enough probable cause to do it.
[29:35.120 --> 29:37.120]  So folks, you see how messed up it is?
[29:37.120 --> 29:42.120]  It is totally improper and not according to law that we have to go through law
[29:42.120 --> 29:45.120]  enforcement in order to file a criminal complaint.
[29:45.120 --> 29:46.120]  This is outrageous.
[29:46.120 --> 29:49.120]  I can't believe we're even having to talk about this.
[29:49.120 --> 29:52.120]  This is date spat all the way back to the Magna Carta.
[29:52.120 --> 29:53.120]  Unbelievable.
[29:53.120 --> 29:54.120]  We'll be right back.
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[31:52.120 --> 32:18.120]  Okay, folks, we're back.
[32:18.120 --> 32:26.120]  It's really outrageous, the state of affairs, how fallen our system has become
[32:26.120 --> 32:30.120]  and how far away from the rule of law it has become.
[32:30.120 --> 32:33.120]  I mean, it's not just a constitutional matter.
[32:33.120 --> 32:36.120]  It's very clear in the criminal procedure code.
[32:36.120 --> 32:40.120]  Criminal complaints are directed towards magistrates
[32:40.120 --> 32:44.120]  and towards district attorneys and grand juries.
[32:44.120 --> 32:48.120]  They're not directed towards any law enforcement entity.
[32:48.120 --> 32:50.120]  Attorneys for the state.
[32:50.120 --> 32:54.120]  Yes, criminal complaints are not police reports.
[32:54.120 --> 32:58.120]  Most people, when they feel a crime has been committed,
[32:58.120 --> 33:01.120]  they go to a law enforcement entity and fill out a police report,
[33:01.120 --> 33:07.120]  and then the police decide discretion if they want to take any investigative action
[33:07.120 --> 33:09.120]  and then all these kinds of things.
[33:09.120 --> 33:10.120]  That's not what we're talking about.
[33:10.120 --> 33:14.120]  We're talking about filing verified criminal complaints.
[33:14.120 --> 33:19.120]  We do not have to go through law enforcement to initiate a prosecution like that,
[33:19.120 --> 33:21.120]  to file a criminal complaint.
[33:21.120 --> 33:24.120]  The reason we go to the grand juries and the magistrates
[33:24.120 --> 33:28.120]  is so that there will be an examining trial according to the code of criminal procedure
[33:28.120 --> 33:30.120]  where each side tells their story,
[33:30.120 --> 33:33.120]  and then at that point there's a finding of probable cause.
[33:33.120 --> 33:38.120]  I mean, this is just outrageous because what's happening all over the state
[33:38.120 --> 33:44.120]  and all over every state is that they're just following procedure and policy of,
[33:44.120 --> 33:47.120]  you know, this is just the way we do things.
[33:47.120 --> 33:52.120]  But their policies and procedures are in violation of law,
[33:52.120 --> 33:56.120]  and it's very sad, and we have to do something about it
[33:56.120 --> 34:02.120]  because people's rights are being trampled on, especially when it comes to due process.
[34:02.120 --> 34:05.120]  And so it's unfortunate because a lot of these people,
[34:05.120 --> 34:07.120]  it's probably not even their fault, Eddie.
[34:07.120 --> 34:09.120]  They don't know any better.
[34:09.120 --> 34:10.120]  Well, no, that's true.
[34:10.120 --> 34:11.120]  It's not.
[34:11.120 --> 34:15.120]  I mean, as you heard the judge yourself state, she's not an attorney,
[34:15.120 --> 34:22.120]  but she is being trained by those that are whose full purpose is to make their own jobs easier,
[34:22.120 --> 34:28.120]  and they will use the judge and the clerk of the court to do that, even though it violates law.
[34:28.120 --> 34:32.120]  Right, and see, that's why for a long time I've been saying the next step
[34:32.120 --> 34:36.120]  is that we have to go after the training programs.
[34:36.120 --> 34:41.120]  Who's teaching these people that this is the way that things should be done
[34:41.120 --> 34:46.120]  when the training programs are teaching them to do things that are illegal?
[34:46.120 --> 34:51.120]  Okay, and I'm not just talking about violating Constitution in some, like, ethereal sense.
[34:51.120 --> 34:57.120]  This is very clearly against statute, the code of criminal procedure.
[34:57.120 --> 34:59.120]  I mean, who is training these people?
[34:59.120 --> 35:03.120]  Who's putting together these training programs to teach these people to violate law?
[35:03.120 --> 35:05.120]  That's who we need to go after next.
[35:05.120 --> 35:12.120]  All right, let's continue on with the clip.
[35:12.120 --> 35:22.120]  That was not meant to throw in the front at you if you happen to be a licensed attorney.
[35:22.120 --> 35:24.120]  I never would like to insinuate that, ma'am.
[35:24.120 --> 35:30.120]  Believe me.
[35:30.120 --> 35:32.120]  Yes, ma'am, I've been over there.
[35:32.120 --> 35:33.120]  I've been over there.
[35:33.120 --> 35:43.120]  Thank you very much, though.
[35:43.120 --> 35:47.120]  Okay, I have been directed to go speak with the sheriff.
[35:47.120 --> 35:50.120]  So that's what I'll do.
[35:50.120 --> 35:54.120]  Oh, and I would very much, Judge Thompson, like to commend you on the ladies working for you.
[35:54.120 --> 36:01.120]  As I told them, they are by far more helpful than the folks over at municipal have ever been.
[36:01.120 --> 36:07.120]  They act like, when you go over there, like everyone's the unabomber with a threat on their mind
[36:07.120 --> 36:10.120]  rather than just coming in trying to get information about what's going on
[36:10.120 --> 36:13.120]  and find out what they're supposed to be doing.
[36:13.120 --> 36:19.120]  So please, I would like you to take my humble thank you for the ladies you've got working for you.
[36:19.120 --> 36:22.120]  Because they definitely are doing what they should be doing.
[36:22.120 --> 36:29.120]  At least they're willing to answer questions.
[36:29.120 --> 36:32.120]  Well, I hope I wind up thanking God for them, too.
[36:32.120 --> 36:33.120]  Thank you, ma'am.
[36:33.120 --> 36:42.120]  Okay, we're entering the sheriff's department.
[36:42.120 --> 36:43.120]  All right, Sheriff Curse, how are you doing?
[36:43.120 --> 36:44.120]  I'm all right.
[36:44.120 --> 36:45.120]  Things treating you well?
[36:45.120 --> 36:46.120]  All right.
[36:46.120 --> 36:47.120]  Family doing okay?
[36:47.120 --> 36:48.120]  Yeah.
[36:48.120 --> 36:49.120]  Howdy, howdy.
[36:49.120 --> 36:50.120]  This is my friend Michael Sullivan.
[36:50.120 --> 36:51.120]  I remember you.
[36:51.120 --> 36:52.120]  Yeah.
[36:52.120 --> 36:53.120]  Thank you, sir.
[36:53.120 --> 37:02.120]  Okay, I'm not really sure why the judge sent me over to talk to you.
[37:02.120 --> 37:06.120]  All I was trying to do was to file some motions in a case I've got going on with her
[37:06.120 --> 37:09.120]  and some criminal complaints which the Code of Criminal Procedure says
[37:09.120 --> 37:12.120]  is directed to some magistrate of the state.
[37:12.120 --> 37:15.120]  So that's what I was attempting to do.
[37:15.120 --> 37:25.120]  But basically speaking, I've got that set of criminal complaints against two state game wardens.
[37:25.120 --> 37:29.120]  Now, you may or may not know the answer to this question,
[37:29.120 --> 37:37.120]  but under what authority is a state game warden to enforce commercial traffic statutes?
[37:37.120 --> 37:45.120]  Well, any peace officer in the state of Texas that is licensed through the state,
[37:45.120 --> 37:49.120]  I am, he is, anybody else.
[37:49.120 --> 37:50.120]  Can you pause it there, Deborah?
[37:50.120 --> 37:55.120]  The law empowers them.
[37:55.120 --> 38:01.120]  Okay, now you'll notice that I stated something very specific to the sheriff.
[38:01.120 --> 38:06.120]  I said to enforce commercial traffic statutes.
[38:06.120 --> 38:11.120]  You will also notice I did not get contradicted.
[38:11.120 --> 38:16.120]  There was no rebuttal of the fact that they are commercial.
[38:16.120 --> 38:22.120]  Now, the rest of this conversation, that point gets argued heavily.
[38:22.120 --> 38:26.120]  But the fact remains that throughout the conversation,
[38:26.120 --> 38:34.120]  no time at all does the sheriff ever directly state they are not commercial.
[38:34.120 --> 38:38.120]  Now, he's implying to his credit, it's what he honestly believes,
[38:38.120 --> 38:40.120]  and I don't begrudge him that,
[38:40.120 --> 38:47.120]  but he implies that they apply to private as well as commercial in every respect.
[38:47.120 --> 38:50.120]  And, of course, you guys all know my standing on that
[38:50.120 --> 38:53.120]  after researching the laws and the case history and everything.
[38:53.120 --> 38:57.120]  So I just wanted to make that point that there was, through this entire thing,
[38:57.120 --> 39:03.120]  there was no direct rebuttal of the stipulation that these are commercial statutes.
[39:03.120 --> 39:04.120]  Right.
[39:04.120 --> 39:10.120]  However, I guess the issue at hand is that they're disagreeing with you
[39:10.120 --> 39:14.120]  that the game wardens have authority to enforce the commercial traffic code.
[39:14.120 --> 39:15.120]  Yes.
[39:15.120 --> 39:18.120]  And, however, there is nothing in the administrative code
[39:18.120 --> 39:23.120]  that lists game wardens as authorized public servants.
[39:23.120 --> 39:24.120]  Exactly.
[39:24.120 --> 39:26.120]  That's where the conversation goes next.
[39:26.120 --> 39:28.120]  Yeah, I mean, that's why you're filing these criminal charges.
[39:28.120 --> 39:32.120]  It would be like me trying to pull someone over and give them a traffic ticket.
[39:32.120 --> 39:37.120]  I'm not an authorized entity in the list in the administrative code,
[39:37.120 --> 39:40.120]  so what's the deal, you know?
[39:40.120 --> 39:44.120]  This goes to the basic founding tenets.
[39:44.120 --> 39:51.120]  Public servants can only do what they are authorized specifically to do under statute,
[39:51.120 --> 39:53.120]  and they have to do what is required of them.
[39:53.120 --> 39:55.120]  They can't just do whatever they want.
[39:55.120 --> 39:58.120]  And I understand where this guy is about to go with a peace officer thing,
[39:58.120 --> 40:02.120]  but that's an incorrect argument.
[40:02.120 --> 40:03.120]  Right.
[40:03.120 --> 40:05.120]  You'll hear me argue against that as well.
[40:05.120 --> 40:07.120]  Yeah, that is an incorrect argument.
[40:07.120 --> 40:11.120]  It's very clear in the administrative code who is allowed to enforce the traffic code.
[40:11.120 --> 40:31.120]  The law empowers them with enforcement authority basically throughout the state,
[40:31.120 --> 40:36.120]  and then as a state officer now on traffic,
[40:36.120 --> 40:41.120]  generally that authority is restricted to your area of primary jurisdiction,
[40:41.120 --> 40:44.120]  but as an employee of the state of Texas,
[40:44.120 --> 40:49.120]  just like with DPS, primary jurisdiction would be anywhere in the state of Texas.
[40:49.120 --> 40:50.120]  Okay.
[40:50.120 --> 40:54.120]  The issue I have with that, I'm not saying you're wrong or anything,
[40:54.120 --> 40:58.120]  but is that there are two code sections that specifically refute that.
[40:58.120 --> 41:05.120]  One is Texas administrative code, Title 37, Rule 4.13 under Chapter 4, Subchapter B.
[41:05.120 --> 41:11.120]  It specifically states who is and is not authorized by office all the way down
[41:11.120 --> 41:14.120]  to enforce traffic laws in this state.
[41:14.120 --> 41:19.120]  That authority is delegated to every peace officer by the Department of Public Safety,
[41:19.120 --> 41:26.120]  and only those specifically certified and to do that job under that chapter are allowed to do that job.
[41:26.120 --> 41:31.120]  The other problem with it is that,
[41:31.120 --> 41:36.120]  because it specifically says sheriffs in this location, deputy sheriffs in this location,
[41:36.120 --> 41:39.120]  Department of Public Safety officers in these locations,
[41:39.120 --> 41:44.120]  employees of the Department of Public Safety in these locations, constables in these locations,
[41:44.120 --> 41:50.120]  and it limits them specifically to who they are, where they are, and what they can do.
[41:50.120 --> 41:52.120]  It says it without question.
[41:52.120 --> 41:55.120]  There's no gray area in it, and game wardens is not there.
[41:55.120 --> 42:01.120]  Plus, in the transportation code itself, Chapter 543, where it specifically says
[42:01.120 --> 42:08.120]  any peace officer may arrest for any offense committed under this subtitle, this subtitle.
[42:08.120 --> 42:12.120]  The two offenses for which these gentlemen accosted me are not under that subtitle.
[42:12.120 --> 42:18.120]  Therefore, there is no authority for any peace officer to accost the way they did.
[42:18.120 --> 42:20.120]  What subtitle are they under?
[42:20.120 --> 42:28.120]  The two offenses, alleged offenses, are under subtitle A and subtitle D, not under subtitle C.
[42:28.120 --> 42:34.120]  Therefore, without statutory authority, these officers are acting outside of their jurisdiction.
[42:34.120 --> 42:38.120]  When an officer, as you well know, acts without authority and jurisdiction
[42:38.120 --> 42:44.120]  in a manner that's contrary to law or the rights of an individual, they're committing a criminal act.
[42:44.120 --> 42:48.120]  First off, what offenses were you stopped for?
[42:48.120 --> 42:56.120]  Allegedly for no registered vehicle, and after they stopped me and demanded paperwork from me,
[42:56.120 --> 43:01.120]  which I did not give them, they decided to write me up for no financial responsibility.
[43:01.120 --> 43:05.120]  Even though nothing was said that said I didn't have it or anything else,
[43:05.120 --> 43:09.120]  they just went ahead and wrote me up for it because I wouldn't give them evidence of it.
[43:09.120 --> 43:13.120]  But in any case, neither of those are arrestable offenses.
[43:13.120 --> 43:18.120]  Neither of those grant authority for them to pull me over and place me under arrest.
[43:18.120 --> 43:25.120]  And in Texas, how so?
[43:25.120 --> 43:28.120]  Okay, we've got to pause here because we're about to go to break.
[43:28.120 --> 43:31.120]  Eddie, you're doing a great job laying it out here.
[43:31.120 --> 43:36.120]  I mean, this is just irrefutable.
[43:36.120 --> 43:40.120]  He certainly makes a valiant effort through the entire thing to refute it.
[43:40.120 --> 43:43.120]  You're reading straight from the code.
[43:43.120 --> 43:48.120]  And, you know, he just probably had never heard these things or read the law himself, you know.
[43:48.120 --> 44:00.120]  So we'll be back on the other side, folks.
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[46:11.120 --> 46:15.120]  Okay, folks, we're back.
[46:15.120 --> 46:17.120]  Playing this clip.
[46:17.120 --> 46:18.120]  Really good stuff, Eddie.
[46:18.120 --> 46:21.120]  You really, really lay it out, what the law says.
[46:21.120 --> 46:23.120]  It's very clear.
[46:23.120 --> 46:25.120]  I'm loving it.
[46:25.120 --> 46:27.120]  And we are going, yeah.
[46:27.120 --> 46:30.120]  And you know, it's for a lot of these officers, you know,
[46:30.120 --> 46:34.120]  it's probably not really their fault because they've gone through these training programs
[46:34.120 --> 46:39.120]  where the training programs teach them incorrectly and don't teach them the law.
[46:39.120 --> 46:41.120]  They teach them to break the law.
[46:41.120 --> 46:44.120]  It's really, from my experience with it,
[46:44.120 --> 46:49.120]  it really amounts to more of an indoctrination into government collective think.
[46:49.120 --> 46:51.120]  That's what it is.
[46:51.120 --> 46:59.120]  You're taught to think and contemplate and decide based on a collectivist mentality
[46:59.120 --> 47:08.120]  with government at the top of the authority ladder instead of it being an individual man's reality
[47:08.120 --> 47:15.120]  with government beneath him whose only purpose is to protect his rights from incursion
[47:15.120 --> 47:21.120]  and encroachment by other men or other agencies or entities.
[47:21.120 --> 47:23.120]  That's their whole purpose for being in existence.
[47:23.120 --> 47:28.120]  It's not to dictate to us what we can or cannot do.
[47:28.120 --> 47:36.120]  It's to protect us from everyone else's attempt to do something to us that we didn't let them do.
[47:36.120 --> 47:41.120]  It boils down to the basic role of government according to the Founding Fathers, which is this.
[47:41.120 --> 47:48.120]  The role of government is to protect the life, liberty, and property of the individual, period.
[47:48.120 --> 47:50.120]  It's not here to provide services like healthcare.
[47:50.120 --> 47:54.120]  They're not here to be our mommy and daddy or anything like that.
[47:54.120 --> 47:58.120]  They're here to protect the life, liberty, and property of the individual.
[47:58.120 --> 48:00.120]  That's it.
[48:00.120 --> 48:03.120]  Eddie, you should know because you've been through some of these training programs
[48:03.120 --> 48:06.120]  because you're a law enforcement officer yourself.
[48:06.120 --> 48:07.120]  Yes.
[48:07.120 --> 48:10.120]  This is not conjecture here, folks.
[48:10.120 --> 48:12.120]  Eddie was a deputy sheriff.
[48:12.120 --> 48:14.120]  I don't know if the listeners know that.
[48:14.120 --> 48:17.120]  We should repeat that information a lot on the air.
[48:17.120 --> 48:19.120]  Eddie knows what he's talking about.
[48:19.120 --> 48:21.120]  All right, we're going to continue on with the clip.
[48:21.120 --> 48:26.120]  How so?
[48:26.120 --> 48:33.120]  There's only two offenses in the state of Texas that a peace officer is required
[48:33.120 --> 48:38.120]  to offer you the opportunity to sign a citation on.
[48:38.120 --> 48:39.120]  I understand that.
[48:39.120 --> 48:45.120]  One is speeding, and that's only if you are driving a vehicle that is registered
[48:45.120 --> 48:49.120]  in the state of Texas and you hold a valid Texas driver's license.
[48:49.120 --> 48:56.120]  Otherwise, the law can require or can allow them to bring you before a magistrate
[48:56.120 --> 48:58.120]  and require a bond to be posted.
[48:58.120 --> 48:59.120]  Yes, sir.
[48:59.120 --> 49:04.120]  Now, it's not an arrestable offense from the standpoint that it has jail time
[49:04.120 --> 49:07.120]  as a form of punishment for the officer.
[49:07.120 --> 49:08.120]  Yes, sir, I understand that.
[49:08.120 --> 49:10.120]  But the law doesn't allow them to detain you.
[49:10.120 --> 49:13.120]  They don't have to allow someone to sign a citation.
[49:13.120 --> 49:16.120]  It's done more or less out of convenience.
[49:16.120 --> 49:20.120]  I understand that, too, but the point being that that section is very specific
[49:20.120 --> 49:23.120]  that even in the instance of taking them before a magistrate,
[49:23.120 --> 49:25.120]  before they're allowed to place them under arrest,
[49:25.120 --> 49:28.120]  it must be an offense under that subtitle.
[49:28.120 --> 49:31.120]  And as I stated, neither of these offenses are under that subtitle.
[49:31.120 --> 49:34.120]  Well, now, I'll be honest with you.
[49:34.120 --> 49:36.120]  When you're just talking about titles and subtitles,
[49:36.120 --> 49:39.120]  we're going to have to break out the book and we're going to have to go section by section.
[49:39.120 --> 49:40.120]  Right.
[49:40.120 --> 49:41.120]  I mean, I've got it right here.
[49:41.120 --> 49:44.120]  Because there's tons of laws on the book.
[49:44.120 --> 49:45.120]  I understand that.
[49:45.120 --> 49:50.120]  Because that subtitle may not say that it doesn't apply
[49:50.120 --> 49:53.120]  or says maybe it doesn't apply in that specific instance.
[49:53.120 --> 49:56.120]  It doesn't mean it's not listed somewhere else.
[49:56.120 --> 49:58.120]  Well, I agree with that.
[49:58.120 --> 50:03.120]  I do agree with that, but that isn't true in this particular case.
[50:03.120 --> 50:06.120]  In this particular case, it's very specific.
[50:06.120 --> 50:10.120]  Now, what I have watched prosecuting attorneys attempt to do
[50:10.120 --> 50:13.120]  is they have tried to say that 1401 subsection B
[50:13.120 --> 50:15.120]  says the officer can arrest for anything.
[50:15.120 --> 50:19.120]  However, the courts have said over and over again,
[50:19.120 --> 50:23.120]  if the code gives specific direction as to what is to be done
[50:23.120 --> 50:29.120]  under the provisions of its statute, those are controlling, not a separate code.
[50:29.120 --> 50:34.120]  And in this case, the transportation code is very specific in the provisions.
[50:34.120 --> 50:38.120]  It says you will do this under these conditions.
[50:38.120 --> 50:43.120]  Are you looking at 6701 over D?
[50:43.120 --> 50:45.120]  No, that's actually the old statute.
[50:45.120 --> 50:49.120]  I'm actually looking in the new code where it's under 543.
[50:49.120 --> 50:53.120]  But yes, the original statutes that they recodified in 1995
[50:53.120 --> 51:02.120]  into the transportation code are under 6701D.
[51:02.120 --> 51:05.120]  And all those, like you said, they are all recodified.
[51:05.120 --> 51:12.120]  So you're looking at 543.001B, you said?
[51:12.120 --> 51:14.120]  No, those are the specific sections.
[51:14.120 --> 51:17.120]  001 deals with all the criteria you were speaking of.
[51:17.120 --> 51:21.120]  They can take you before a magistrate or have you sign a citation.
[51:21.120 --> 51:28.120]  But 001 specifically states what the officer can do for offenses under this subtitle.
[51:28.120 --> 51:30.120]  And it says any officer, any peace officer,
[51:30.120 --> 51:34.120]  may arrest for a violation under this subtitle.
[51:34.120 --> 51:38.120]  Now, as you are well aware, that that section makes it very clear
[51:38.120 --> 51:42.120]  that any time a traffic stop is initiated in Texas,
[51:42.120 --> 51:45.120]  you are automatically under custodial arrest.
[51:45.120 --> 51:47.120]  It's not an investigation.
[51:47.120 --> 51:49.120]  It is a custodial arrest.
[51:49.120 --> 51:51.120]  It's very clear in that section.
[51:51.120 --> 51:52.120]  That's not true.
[51:52.120 --> 51:53.120]  You're under detention.
[51:53.120 --> 51:54.120]  You're not under custodial arrest.
[51:54.120 --> 52:00.120]  It says right in the code that the arresting officer can have the person arrested sign,
[52:00.120 --> 52:07.120]  no, no, no, may have the person arrested sign the citation to be released from custody.
[52:07.120 --> 52:10.120]  It's very clear that you're under a custodial arrest.
[52:10.120 --> 52:15.120]  It says it right there, the words arrest, the words release from custody or in custody.
[52:15.120 --> 52:17.120]  They're all right there.
[52:17.120 --> 52:22.120]  They say custodial arrest the moment the officer turns on his lights, period.
[52:22.120 --> 52:24.120]  It's cut and dry.
[52:24.120 --> 52:28.120]  So the problem with that is in this case,
[52:28.120 --> 52:33.120]  I was arrested unlawfully according to the provisions of the controlling statute
[52:33.120 --> 52:38.120]  because the offenses alleged are not under the provisions of the controlling statute.
[52:38.120 --> 52:39.120]  All right.
[52:39.120 --> 52:40.120]  And that's my point.
[52:40.120 --> 52:46.120]  What statute are you saying the provisions that you were stopped under, listed under?
[52:46.120 --> 52:53.120]  The specific one dealing with unregistered vehicle is Chapter 502, Texas Transportation Code.
[52:53.120 --> 52:54.120]  Okay.
[52:54.120 --> 52:56.120]  That is under Subtitle A.
[52:56.120 --> 53:00.120]  The secondary provision on the insurance is 601.
[53:00.120 --> 53:02.120]  That is under Subtitle D.
[53:02.120 --> 53:03.120]  But that will come later.
[53:03.120 --> 53:07.120]  The initial reason for the stop is an unregistered vehicle.
[53:07.120 --> 53:08.120]  Right.
[53:08.120 --> 53:11.120]  So that's a probable cause for the initial stop.
[53:11.120 --> 53:17.120]  Dealing with the plate that's on my car, which is a private plate
[53:17.120 --> 53:19.120]  because it is not required to be registered.
[53:19.120 --> 53:21.120]  It's not a commercial vehicle.
[53:21.120 --> 53:28.120]  And if you actually look in Chapter 502, one of the necessary requisites of registering a vehicle
[53:28.120 --> 53:33.120]  as a motor vehicle in the state of Texas is that it must have a certificate of title.
[53:33.120 --> 53:38.120]  And under Chapter 501 that deals specifically with the certificate of title,
[53:38.120 --> 53:45.120]  it very clearly states that 501 applies only to state-owned and politically subdivision-owned vehicles.
[53:45.120 --> 53:47.120]  It doesn't apply to anything else.
[53:47.120 --> 53:53.120]  Well, lady, I hate to tell you, but you've got to get outside of that because, again, there's all kind of laws.
[53:53.120 --> 53:54.120]  I understand that.
[53:54.120 --> 53:59.120]  And there's other laws and statutes that you're just ignoring or not bringing up
[53:59.120 --> 54:01.120]  that do require those vehicles to be registered.
[54:01.120 --> 54:02.120]  Well...
[54:02.120 --> 54:08.120]  If they're going to be operated on the public house.
[54:08.120 --> 54:09.120]  Okay.
[54:09.120 --> 54:14.120]  Now, through the course of this part of the discussion, you'll notice one thing.
[54:14.120 --> 54:21.120]  What he's trying to say is that I have to look at something other than the section I'm looking at.
[54:21.120 --> 54:26.120]  But taking it in contemplation of what he's saying I should be doing,
[54:26.120 --> 54:30.120]  that brings up a whole plethora of problems, the first one being,
[54:30.120 --> 54:34.120]  if there is not a hierarchy to the statute,
[54:34.120 --> 54:40.120]  then there is nothing to prevent one section of statute from overruling this one under a given circumstance
[54:40.120 --> 54:43.120]  or losing out to another one under another circumstance,
[54:43.120 --> 54:48.120]  even if the circumstance is identical and just different people are reading it.
[54:48.120 --> 54:56.120]  The problem here is that the insinuation appears to be that just because this section of code says these are the rules,
[54:56.120 --> 55:02.120]  when you go to a different section of the same code and it says these are the rules,
[55:02.120 --> 55:09.120]  even though it's dealing with the exact same subject under the exact same provisions,
[55:09.120 --> 55:17.120]  that somehow or other one is taking a precedent over the other for the exact same thing, when in fact it's not.
[55:17.120 --> 55:23.120]  502 deals with the specifics of motor vehicle registration.
[55:23.120 --> 55:28.120]  Sure, there's lots of other statutes that says any vehicle required to be registered in this state.
[55:28.120 --> 55:30.120]  It says that in several different places.
[55:30.120 --> 55:38.120]  The problem is that 502 is the controlling chapter on what is required for registration.
[55:38.120 --> 55:40.120]  It's not the other chapters.
[55:40.120 --> 55:47.120]  The other chapters deal with the registration only as it pertains to what's going on in that chapter,
[55:47.120 --> 55:53.120]  but the actual requisite of registration is all in 502.
[55:53.120 --> 56:00.120]  That's where this discussion is going, and that's what's being led to and what he's saying now.
[56:00.120 --> 56:02.120]  I just wanted to clarify that.
[56:02.120 --> 56:08.120]  The problem that creates is just complete disarray of the statutes,
[56:08.120 --> 56:15.120]  because at no time can you earnestly sit down and say this is the controlling section dealing with that issue
[56:15.120 --> 56:20.120]  if you go the way that the sheriff is saying that you do here,
[56:20.120 --> 56:29.120]  because at that point one law can be used by anybody to supersede another at any given point based upon how they choose to use it,
[56:29.120 --> 56:38.120]  and I honestly don't in any way, shape, or form believe that's possible and for you to say that law exists.
[56:38.120 --> 56:40.120]  You just can't operate that way.
[56:40.120 --> 56:42.120]  No, it's very clear.
[56:42.120 --> 56:52.120]  The legislature has made it very clear which statutes are the controlling statutes in whatever particular given situation,
[56:52.120 --> 56:59.120]  because indeed there's so many laws in the books, even the congressmen, they can't keep track of it all.
[56:59.120 --> 57:07.120]  So yeah, there may be some conflicts between one statute and another, and that's why there are principles in place,
[57:07.120 --> 57:13.120]  and it's very clearly defined which statutes are the controlling statutes.
[57:13.120 --> 57:19.120]  Yeah, that's the whole reason the statutory enactments are required to have titles and caps,
[57:19.120 --> 57:25.120]  so that it specifically says this enactment deals with this specific subject,
[57:25.120 --> 57:31.120]  and when those enactments for the captions and the titles are not printed with the statute,
[57:31.120 --> 57:35.120]  this is exactly the kind of misunderstanding that results.
[57:35.120 --> 57:40.120]  Right. That's exactly right. That's why we have titles. That's why we have these kinds of enactments.
[57:40.120 --> 57:45.120]  That's exactly why the bills, and actually it doesn't say the bill, it says right in the constitution,
[57:45.120 --> 57:49.120]  they shall be printed on the face of every law.
[57:49.120 --> 57:58.120]  Well, if the statute is supposed to be the law, why is the title in the caption not printed in the published law?
[57:58.120 --> 57:59.120]  Right.
[57:59.120 --> 58:03.120]  So that the people don't have to guess what section controls what.
[58:03.120 --> 58:10.120]  It can't just be a situation of law enforcement and prosecutors can just pick whichever statute they decide
[58:10.120 --> 58:14.120]  is convenient for them at any particular given time to get their way.
[58:14.120 --> 58:18.120]  That's why we have controlling statutes.
[58:18.120 --> 58:23.120]  So that is a non-argument. We can't just have total chaos like that.
[58:23.120 --> 58:29.120]  That's not proper. That's not the way the law is set up.
[58:29.120 --> 58:36.120]  That's very clear in the legislature. But, you know, again, these are things that a lot of people don't understand.
[58:36.120 --> 58:38.120]  So that's why we do this show.
[58:38.120 --> 58:43.120]  Folks who are at the top of the hour break, I'm hoping we're going to be able to get through all of this.
[58:43.120 --> 58:46.120]  I'm not quite sure how long the entire clip is.
[58:46.120 --> 58:49.120]  It's an hour and 56 minutes. We're not going to make it through.
[58:49.120 --> 58:53.120]  We're not going to make it. Maybe we could finish some of it on Thursday because we're having commentary here.
[58:53.120 --> 59:00.120]  We'll be back at the top of the hour break, folks.
[59:23.120 --> 59:30.120]  Thank you.
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[01:02:16.120 --> 01:02:20.120]  reportedly visited Ecuador recently.
[01:02:20.120 --> 01:02:25.120]  The State Department issued a travel alert Sunday for U.S. citizens in Europe,
[01:02:25.120 --> 01:02:28.120]  saying a large-scale al-Qaeda attack may be imminent.
[01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:34.120]  In Britain, the threat of terrorism has been listed as severe, meaning an attack is highly likely.
[01:02:34.120 --> 01:02:40.120]  Intelligence sources say the threat arose after a German man of Pakistani origin,
[01:02:40.120 --> 01:02:43.120]  being held at the U.S. base in Bagram, Afghanistan,
[01:02:43.120 --> 01:02:48.120]  provided information about the activities of half a dozen men who were talking to other operatives
[01:02:48.120 --> 01:02:52.120]  in several European cities about upcoming strikes.
[01:03:18.120 --> 01:03:38.120]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:03:38.120 --> 01:03:41.380]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:47.840]  All right, what we are going to do is we're going to get through as much of this clip
[01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:52.320]  as we can on this show, stopping for commentary, because we do need to stop
[01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.860]  and discuss these matters.
[01:03:53.860 --> 01:03:57.420]  And, Eddie, I want you to repeat what you said before the break concerning the titles
[01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:01.880]  and how it's clarified which statutes are the overriding statutes,
[01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.160]  because they definitely have things like that in place.
[01:04:05.160 --> 01:04:11.160]  They have to, because the legislators themselves cannot keep track of all the laws
[01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:15.360]  that they write, and so, yes, there's going to be discrepancies, and so, yes,
[01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.440]  they have something very, very clearly in place,
[01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:20.700]  which statutes are the overriding statutes.
[01:04:20.700 --> 01:04:24.320]  Otherwise, how could we, we could not have the rule of law.
[01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:27.000]  We could not have the rule of law otherwise.
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:32.960]  Yeah, the Texas Constitution, Article 3, Section 29 through 30 some odd, is very,
[01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:38.040]  very detailed on telling what the legislature, they must do to enact a law,
[01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:45.080]  how it is to be done, what every bill must contain, what every law must have upon its face,
[01:04:45.080 --> 01:04:51.360]  such as a caption and a title that explains the purpose of the enactment.
[01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:56.080]  Now, that's exactly what is supposed to be published with the statute
[01:04:56.080 --> 01:05:03.160]  to avoid the misconception as to the application of the statute in general.
[01:05:03.160 --> 01:05:07.080]  What the sheriff is bringing up about there being several different statutes
[01:05:07.080 --> 01:05:12.240]  that say this, this, or this that would contradict that, well, that's not possible.
[01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:16.360]  The reason it's not possible is because the statute that you would be referring
[01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:20.200]  to in this case has a caption that says its specific reason
[01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:27.640]  for existence is this subject matter, not the actual necessity of registration perhaps,
[01:05:27.640 --> 01:05:33.960]  but what to do with a vehicle that is required to be registered in this state
[01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:37.360]  under this particular condition or circumstance.
[01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:43.360]  It still doesn't do anything about what the requisites of registration are.
[01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:49.120]  It just says any vehicle required to be registered in this state shall blah, blah, blah.
[01:05:49.120 --> 01:05:53.800]  But it doesn't define what the requirements are to be registered.
[01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.040]  Right, right.
[01:05:56.040 --> 01:05:59.320]  That's the reason for the captions and the titles.
[01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:05.680]  That's exactly why a statute book, in my argument, is not valid law.
[01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:14.960]  And for them to use it as a frame of reference is bogus because it is not a proper complete version
[01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:21.040]  of the legislative enactment because the caption and titles are not there.
[01:06:21.040 --> 01:06:24.720]  See, this is the type of thing, Eddie, that needs to be taught
[01:06:24.720 --> 01:06:28.680]  in these training programs for law enforcement.
[01:06:28.680 --> 01:06:35.960]  Okay, this is what needs, yeah, well, this is what needs to be taught in the training programs.
[01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:38.160]  They need, I mean, hello, they're law enforcement.
[01:06:38.160 --> 01:06:40.840]  They need to be taught the law and they need to be taught which statutes,
[01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.960]  the overriding statutes so that these kinds of problems don't happen.
[01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:48.520]  But instead, what it looks to me like what's happening is that they're being taught policies
[01:06:48.520 --> 01:06:52.120]  and procedures to maximize revenue.
[01:06:52.120 --> 01:06:59.720]  Yeah, to maximize revenue by keeping the process as streamlined as possible so that there's
[01:06:59.720 --> 01:07:04.880]  as few speed bumps in the process as possible to make it appear
[01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:08.360]  that justice has been applied when, in fact, it's been denied.
[01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:13.960]  Exactly, and if they break the law along the way in the process, well, oh well.
[01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:15.920]  Well, the process will help cover that up too.
[01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.560]  Exactly, and if we steamroll people's rights and deprive them of their liberty
[01:07:20.560 --> 01:07:23.040]  and their property along the way, well, oh well.
[01:07:23.040 --> 01:07:26.360]  Well, that's not what this country was founded on, people.
[01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.600]  This is why our founding fathers fought a revolution.
[01:07:29.600 --> 01:07:35.280]  This is why my personal ancestors on both sides of my family fought in the revolution,
[01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:40.480]  the Independence War back in the day when this whole nation was first founded,
[01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:45.240]  and in the Texas War for Independence as well.
[01:07:45.240 --> 01:07:48.840]  Okay, we have to get back to our roots.
[01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.360]  Well, as much as I love my grandmother, you would think she was
[01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.000]  around when the first flag was made.
[01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:58.640]  But beside that point, this has been going on for a very long time, and I fully agree
[01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:01.440]  and want the law enforcement out there to understand
[01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.200]  that I'm not saying this is your fault.
[01:08:04.200 --> 01:08:06.840]  It's not, okay?
[01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:14.080]  There are systems that have been put into place over time that have made this the process
[01:08:14.080 --> 01:08:19.680]  that everyone has accepted, right or wrong, it's the one that's viewed as correct
[01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.760]  because it's the current way of doing things and no one's ever been taught different.
[01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.640]  But the one thing that I can say that should change
[01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.760]  and would immediately change the outlook of law enforcement
[01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:35.200]  in general is when you start taking what you're being taught
[01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:41.760]  and you actually compare that to the language, just read the words of the Constitution
[01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:47.600]  and the Bill of Rights, you immediately see there's a problem here.
[01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:56.880]  When you say that you can do this to a citizen, but the Constitution says no citizen shall
[01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:04.240]  be deprived of this without this, and yet you're being trained to do exactly that very thing,
[01:09:04.240 --> 01:09:05.560]  something's wrong.
[01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:07.280]  That should be obvious.
[01:09:07.280 --> 01:09:08.960]  Houston, we have a problem.
[01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.520]  Yeah.
[01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:11.880]  Okay, so go ahead.
[01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:17.720]  That's just going to wind up in a crash landing without a parachute for somebody.
[01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:23.800]  Indeed, and it's been a crash landing without a parachute for the citizens of this nation
[01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:27.960]  and this state for too long, and so that's why we do this show.
[01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.360]  You don't have to be an attorney to know how to read.
[01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:32.920]  It's not that difficult.
[01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.200]  All right, so folks, listen, we have to make these kinds of commentaries
[01:09:36.200 --> 01:09:38.640]  and dissect what happened on this audio clip.
[01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.840]  We're not going to have time to play the whole clip in this show.
[01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:46.800]  So what we're going to do, we're going to play as much of it as we can with commentary,
[01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:49.840]  and then we're going to finish it on Thursday night.
[01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:58.080]  And in the meantime, I will post this audio file on the archive page along with the archives.
[01:09:58.080 --> 01:10:02.800]  So it will be on my blog post on ruleoflawradio.com, the archive blog.
[01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:07.680]  It will be, you know, I make blog posts for all the shows with the links to the archives,
[01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:09.400]  and I'll include the clip as well.
[01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:13.760]  So without further ado, here is more of the clip.
[01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.920]  Well, Eddie, I hate to tell you, but you've got to get outside of that,
[01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.280]  because again, there's all kind of laws.
[01:10:19.280 --> 01:10:24.960]  There's other laws and statutes that you're just ignoring or not bringing up
[01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:27.680]  that do require those vehicles to be registered.
[01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:34.240]  If they're going to be operated on the public highway.
[01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:38.280]  Now, you're right, there's not an obligation for anybody to register a vehicle,
[01:10:38.280 --> 01:10:40.440]  have a driver's license, have insurance.
[01:10:40.440 --> 01:10:44.920]  As long as you want to buy that vehicle and drive it around on private property all day long,
[01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:46.240]  you're free to do that.
[01:10:46.240 --> 01:10:55.800]  But the minute you put it on that public right of way for that highway, those laws apply.
[01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:56.920]  Yes and no.
[01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:01.960]  Now, I'm not meaning to sound argumentative with you again, but there's 11 years of study
[01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.040]  behind what I'm trying to convey here.
[01:11:04.040 --> 01:11:07.320]  So I'm not just talking off the top of my head, and believe me,
[01:11:07.320 --> 01:11:09.360]  I have torn the codes apart in this state.
[01:11:09.360 --> 01:11:10.400]  I believe you.
[01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:15.680]  And I mean, for instance, I can give you the perfect example.
[01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:19.440]  Every single thing you're referring to ties directly back to the requirement
[01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:21.520]  of having a driver's license in this state.
[01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:28.400]  If you look at every single chapter, for instance, you cannot get any type of insurance
[01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:34.280]  on an unregistered motor vehicle or as an unlicensed traveler in that vehicle.
[01:11:34.280 --> 01:11:35.880]  Can't do it, okay?
[01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:37.880]  No insurance company will provide it.
[01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:43.800]  However, you look at the code, there are two chapters in Texas transportation code
[01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:48.760]  that deal with the issue of driver's licensing for the operation of a motor vehicle,
[01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:52.280]  chapter 521 and chapter 522.
[01:11:52.280 --> 01:11:56.160]  Chapter 522 specifically states that it is remedial law.
[01:11:56.160 --> 01:12:03.400]  It is there for the simple provision of providing a remedy to the old law.
[01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:08.720]  Now, I've got court cases in Texas that specifically said prior to a certain date,
[01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.240]  there was no such thing in Texas as a driver's license.
[01:12:11.240 --> 01:12:14.480]  So anybody getting charged with that, it was a bad charge.
[01:12:14.480 --> 01:12:16.760]  Couldn't do it because there was no such thing.
[01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:20.120]  So what they've done is they've written a provision creating a definition
[01:12:20.120 --> 01:12:25.120]  of driver's license under 521.001 sub item 3.
[01:12:25.120 --> 01:12:28.360]  And it says a driver's license is one of three things.
[01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:33.720]  It is a temporary license, it is a learner's permit, or it is an occupational license.
[01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:37.800]  Now, as a law enforcement officer, which of those three things if you were charging me
[01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:42.160]  with no driver's license are you saying that I'm required to have?
[01:12:42.160 --> 01:12:47.040]  Am I required to have a temporary license, a learner's permit, or an occupational license?
[01:12:47.040 --> 01:12:49.200]  You're required to have one of the three.
[01:12:49.200 --> 01:12:54.720]  Okay, well then 521 specifically gives the information regarding each of those three.
[01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.440]  It says that a temporary license is issued to an out of state applicant
[01:12:58.440 --> 01:13:02.320]  or an active duty member of the military who is serving out of state.
[01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:06.880]  The license is issued to the individual without a picture and within 45 days of returning
[01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:11.120]  to the state they're required to go in and get an actual permanent license.
[01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:15.200]  So, once you come into the state and get the actual permanent license,
[01:13:15.200 --> 01:13:16.960]  what kind of license did you get?
[01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:19.280]  What did that temporary license become?
[01:13:19.280 --> 01:13:23.560]  You're making a circular argument if you say it becomes a driver's license
[01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.960]  because that still means it can only be one of the other two things
[01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:29.400]  since it can no longer be a temporary.
[01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:34.320]  Now, you have to get a temporary license to get a driver's license.
[01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:36.320]  Actually there are two different things.
[01:13:36.320 --> 01:13:41.120]  You're talking about the actual temporary paper tag that they give you when you go down
[01:13:41.120 --> 01:13:45.800]  and take the test, but the temporary license is actually a hard card just
[01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:49.760]  like your regular license and it's issued because it's an undetermined period
[01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.560]  of time before the person that's out of state may come within the state.
[01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:58.920]  And it very clearly says that it is issued only to an out of state applicant.
[01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:04.160]  So, but you have to apply for a driver's license.
[01:14:04.160 --> 01:14:08.880]  That's true, you do have to apply, but if you go then and look at...
[01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:13.000]  You're talking about an out of state applicant.
[01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:14.600]  You've been in Texas all your life.
[01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:14.960]  Granted.
[01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.640]  You go down and you go and try to get a driver's license.
[01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:22.480]  Unless you have these driving safety courses and other requirements,
[01:14:22.480 --> 01:14:25.840]  then you'd have to be 18 years late to apply for that license.
[01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:29.200]  Okay, to apply for a license to operate a motor vehicle.
[01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:29.520]  Correct.
[01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:34.080]  Okay. Now, but as you said, and are you in agreement
[01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:36.400]  that it says it's an out of state applicant?
[01:14:36.400 --> 01:14:38.080]  I mean, I know you haven't read it, but...
[01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:42.240]  I'm in agreement that there is an application process for out of state residents.
[01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:46.720]  Just like I know that the law requires someone from out of state that moves
[01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:51.080]  into the state to register their vehicle and change their driver's license
[01:14:51.080 --> 01:14:54.760]  within 30 days of becoming gainfully employed.
[01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:58.560]  Well, again, let's look at the other two remaining items under the necessity
[01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.600]  of a driver's license and what it is.
[01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:01.960]  Your learner's permit.
[01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:06.280]  As you're talking about, the learner's permit is what you initially have before you go
[01:15:06.280 --> 01:15:07.640]  and get your actual license.
[01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:11.000]  The learner's permit is what you get after you've taken your driver's ed
[01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:14.280]  or whatever pre-exam you take to get there.
[01:15:14.280 --> 01:15:20.320]  That's what enables them, those underage drivers, to apply for a license...
[01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:22.560]  On a hardship basis and so on and so forth.
[01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.960]  Well, not even hardship, but...
[01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:25.400]  Well, if they're 15 years of age.
[01:15:25.400 --> 01:15:26.120]  15 years of age.
[01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:31.360]  Right. But in any case, once they go down and take that written test and they take
[01:15:31.360 --> 01:15:36.720]  and pass the driving test and they get an actual license issued, again,
[01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:38.520]  what kind of license are they being issued?
[01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:39.880]  It's a provisional license.
[01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:41.560]  Okay. Provisional in what regard?
[01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.200]  There's no definition for provisional and it doesn't stipulate provisional
[01:15:45.200 --> 01:15:46.480]  as a driver's license.
[01:15:46.480 --> 01:15:47.280]  It simply says...
[01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:50.560]  Well, it's a driver's license, but there are different types of driver's license.
[01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:51.280]  I understand that, but...
[01:15:51.280 --> 01:15:56.720]  There's commercial licenses, there's occupational licenses, there's, you know,
[01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:58.920]  the class B, the class C...
[01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.960]  Well, you're talking different classifications.
[01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:04.600]  They're not different licenses, they're different classifications.
[01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:10.920]  But again, once you actually get that learner's permit turned in and you get this,
[01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.960]  you're saying a provisional license, which doesn't exist in law,
[01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.720]  I don't see anything that calls any of it a provisional license.
[01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.120]  Well, it's a classification if you just put it.
[01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:22.400]  Right. But it's class A, B, or C with certain endorsements.
[01:16:22.400 --> 01:16:23.960]  Well, for provisions.
[01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:25.240]  Okay. Well...
[01:16:25.240 --> 01:16:29.400]  Just like a 16-year-old that just gets their driver's license,
[01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:35.640]  there's restrictions on their driving abilities that don't apply to others.
[01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.320]  All right. Sorry, folks.
[01:16:37.320 --> 01:16:40.520]  Ray came up on me quick on that one.
[01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.880]  Yeah, but a provisional license is not a specific type of a driver's license.
[01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.600]  That's the point that Eddie's trying to make here.
[01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:51.480]  That's another word for the type of endorsements it makes here.
[01:16:51.480 --> 01:16:53.080]  Yes. It's a type of endorsement.
[01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:55.520]  It's not another type of driver's license.
[01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:56.680]  We've got to get these things straight.
[01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:00.200]  We'll be right back, folks.
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[01:18:59.440 --> 01:19:26.040]  AIN'T GONNA BLIND ME, AIN'T GONNA POOP ME WITH THAT SAME OLD TRICK AGAIN.
[01:19:26.040 --> 01:19:31.120]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your plans.
[01:19:31.120 --> 01:19:36.280]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hands.
[01:19:36.280 --> 01:19:40.240]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:40.240 --> 01:19:43.160]  OK, folks, we are back.
[01:19:43.160 --> 01:19:44.960]  And we're just about to roll the clip again.
[01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.440]  But I just wanted to make a comment here
[01:19:47.440 --> 01:19:50.400]  that Eddie has studied the traffic code.
[01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:51.400]  You said 11 years.
[01:19:51.400 --> 01:19:54.000]  I thought it was more like 14 years, Eddie.
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:54.920]  Well, total.
[01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:59.520]  So you're not just talking off the top of your head here.
[01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.880]  You absolutely do know what you're talking about.
[01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:03.400]  Eddie gives a seminar on it.
[01:20:03.400 --> 01:20:06.800]  We give the rule of law traffic seminar here.
[01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:09.840]  It's available on our website for download.
[01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.160]  And folks, see, this is the mentality
[01:20:13.160 --> 01:20:16.080]  that we have to wake up to.
[01:20:16.080 --> 01:20:18.560]  We are the sovereign citizens.
[01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.560]  We don't need permission from the government to do things.
[01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.800]  All right, now granted, the roadways are public.
[01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:28.560]  However, the right to travel issue
[01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.760]  has been well adjudicated.
[01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:37.160]  In the Supreme Court of the United States, in every state,
[01:20:37.160 --> 01:20:42.640]  there are hundreds of case laws on the right to travel.
[01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.640]  We do not have to have a driver's license
[01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.240]  or any other kind of license permission
[01:20:48.240 --> 01:20:51.280]  from any government entity to travel
[01:20:51.280 --> 01:20:54.800]  in our private vehicles on the public roadways.
[01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:58.160]  We only need a license if we're engaged in commerce
[01:20:58.160 --> 01:21:02.600]  on the roadways because the point is we have the right
[01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:04.960]  to travel, people.
[01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.440]  It's not called right to travel if you could only
[01:21:07.440 --> 01:21:11.360]  travel on private property without a license.
[01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:15.000]  Hello, that's why it's called right to travel.
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.000]  However, we do not have the right
[01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:21.320]  to engage in commerce on the public roadways
[01:21:21.320 --> 01:21:24.520]  because we pay taxes for those roads.
[01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:26.760]  And so no, you don't have the right
[01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:31.120]  to make money or profit off of engaging in commerce
[01:21:31.120 --> 01:21:33.600]  on the roadways that are public because they're
[01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:35.720]  paid for by the taxpayers.
[01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:38.840]  But we do have the right to travel on them
[01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:41.520]  because we pay taxes for them.
[01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:45.200]  Yeah, you will see that he tries to make the distinction
[01:21:45.200 --> 01:21:46.320]  on the right to travel.
[01:21:46.320 --> 01:21:50.840]  He tries to limit the application of the right
[01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:55.080]  to travel only to those that are willing to be a passenger
[01:21:55.080 --> 01:21:57.680]  in someone else's automobile.
[01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:59.400]  Yeah, well, that's a specious argument.
[01:21:59.400 --> 01:22:03.120]  The one who is actually in control of it
[01:22:03.120 --> 01:22:07.040]  must have a license under every circumstance for every purpose.
[01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:11.600]  And then you're not restricted in being a guest or a passenger
[01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.120]  in that automobile.
[01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:15.440]  You don't have to have the license for that.
[01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:17.040]  But you most certainly have to have
[01:22:17.040 --> 01:22:18.920]  it to be the one in control.
[01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.560]  Well, if you're actually operating a motor
[01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:26.160]  vehicle for commercial purposes, he is 100% correct.
[01:22:26.160 --> 01:22:29.720]  But to tell me that I have the right to travel,
[01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.640]  but then say you can only do it in the way
[01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:37.160]  that I say you can do it under the conditions that I said
[01:22:37.160 --> 01:22:38.560]  is not a right.
[01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:39.960]  Exactly.
[01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:40.920]  Exactly.
[01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.560]  That is the whole point.
[01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:49.360]  I mean, and you know what, I have to give credit and kudos
[01:22:49.360 --> 01:22:53.760]  to the Texas legislature for writing the traffic code the way
[01:22:53.760 --> 01:23:00.200]  they did because the legislators at the time knew this.
[01:23:00.200 --> 01:23:02.560]  They knew these principles.
[01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:06.920]  And so they very carefully constructed the traffic code
[01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:09.760]  so that it only applies to people
[01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.000]  who are engaged in commerce.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:14.840]  It is very clear when you read the law.
[01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:16.680]  It's just that what's happening is
[01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:20.560]  that the law is being abused and misapplied.
[01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.960]  That is what is happening.
[01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.640]  But I do have to give the legislators credit
[01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:29.000]  because they were very careful in the way
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.480]  they constructed the code that it only
[01:23:31.480 --> 01:23:33.240]  applies if you're engaged in commerce.
[01:23:33.240 --> 01:23:36.160]  And going to work doesn't count because you
[01:23:36.160 --> 01:23:38.120]  engage in commerce when you get to your job.
[01:23:38.120 --> 01:23:39.960]  You're not engaged in commerce on the road.
[01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.440]  And a farmer taking his goods to the farmer's market
[01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:45.800]  doesn't count because he engages in commerce
[01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:47.760]  once he gets to the farmer's market.
[01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:49.880]  You're only in commerce.
[01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:52.320]  The administrative code and the transportation code
[01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:56.080]  both specify that any farm vehicle that
[01:23:56.080 --> 01:23:59.040]  is used for that purpose is specifically
[01:23:59.040 --> 01:24:02.280]  exempt from registration or inspection.
[01:24:02.280 --> 01:24:06.360]  Yes, so that one, the right to travel in that instance
[01:24:06.360 --> 01:24:08.320]  is even enumerated in statute.
[01:24:08.320 --> 01:24:11.240]  Which, you know, it doesn't need to be.
[01:24:11.240 --> 01:24:13.240]  Our rights do not have to be enumerated.
[01:24:13.240 --> 01:24:15.160]  I mean, we have the Bill of Rights.
[01:24:15.160 --> 01:24:16.440]  We have the Bill of Rights.
[01:24:16.440 --> 01:24:18.520]  But people, we have to keep in mind
[01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:21.560]  that the Bill of Rights does not give us permission.
[01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:24.760]  The Bill of Rights does not grant us our rights.
[01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.400]  We don't get our rights from a piece of paper
[01:24:27.400 --> 01:24:30.840]  or documents created by government officials.
[01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.560]  We get our rights from our creator, God.
[01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:35.760]  Right, and you will find as you listen
[01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:39.560]  to the rest of this audio file that he says that the Constitution
[01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:43.160]  does not give you the right to travel in a motor vehicle.
[01:24:43.160 --> 01:24:48.160]  And I tried to get in the part about, well, you're correct.
[01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:52.600]  The Constitution doesn't give me the right to do anything.
[01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:54.240]  Exactly, the Constitution doesn't.
[01:24:54.240 --> 01:24:56.960]  Because it was never meant to give me rights.
[01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.400]  The Constitution does not give us any rights.
[01:25:00.400 --> 01:25:03.040]  The government does not give us rights.
[01:25:03.040 --> 01:25:10.040]  We don't need permission from the government to do anything.
[01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:13.080]  We can do whatever we want unless it's specifically
[01:25:13.080 --> 01:25:19.640]  prohibited by law, mainly in the criminal procedure code.
[01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:22.640]  Yeah, and by law meaning to cause harm
[01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:25.000]  to another or their property.
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.280]  It does not mean anything we want to say you can't do,
[01:25:29.280 --> 01:25:30.320]  you can't do.
[01:25:30.320 --> 01:25:33.160]  In fact, I don't even like to call the Bill of Rights
[01:25:33.160 --> 01:25:34.040]  the Bill of Rights.
[01:25:34.040 --> 01:25:36.920]  The Bill of Rights is not really a Bill of Rights.
[01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.040]  It's a bill of restrictions.
[01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:43.320]  It's a bill of restrictions on the government
[01:25:43.320 --> 01:25:47.480]  that specifically restricts and prohibits the government
[01:25:47.480 --> 01:25:51.080]  from infringing on these particular rights.
[01:25:51.080 --> 01:25:53.400]  But that doesn't mean that the government
[01:25:53.400 --> 01:25:56.920]  can infringe on other rights.
[01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:58.160]  OK?
[01:25:58.160 --> 01:26:01.000]  It's a bill of restrictions on the government.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.480]  And we have to get this mindset here.
[01:26:03.480 --> 01:26:05.240]  The Constitution, pieces of paper,
[01:26:05.240 --> 01:26:08.240]  do not give us rights to do anything.
[01:26:08.240 --> 01:26:10.840]  OK, so I would go one step further than that, Deborah.
[01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:13.400]  I would say the entire Constitution
[01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:15.200]  is a bill of restriction.
[01:26:15.200 --> 01:26:15.840]  It is.
[01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:16.560]  It absolutely is.
[01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:18.640]  And the Bill of Rights, particularly,
[01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:20.200]  is a Bill of Protections.
[01:26:20.200 --> 01:26:24.560]  It protects the rights that it does enumerate specifically.
[01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:28.080]  But it also grants only specific authority
[01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:30.880]  to the government in certain areas.
[01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:31.360]  Exactly.
[01:26:31.360 --> 01:26:35.240]  And by inference, only those things
[01:26:35.240 --> 01:26:40.600]  that are necessary and ancillary to the powers we gave them.
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:42.520]  In other words, the power can't function
[01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:45.400]  if they can't do this too.
[01:26:45.400 --> 01:26:48.040]  And that's exactly where we're to the point of,
[01:26:48.040 --> 01:26:49.960]  where did the legislature get the authority
[01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:53.160]  to let a municipality create a private army in the form
[01:26:53.160 --> 01:26:54.840]  of a police force?
[01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:57.800]  You can create a city that can function perfectly well
[01:26:57.800 --> 01:26:59.720]  without a police force.
[01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.280]  Therefore, the function of law enforcement
[01:27:02.280 --> 01:27:06.080]  at the municipal level is not a necessary and ancillary
[01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:06.960]  function.
[01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:09.160]  That's why the Constitution created
[01:27:09.160 --> 01:27:12.880]  the Office of Sheriff and his deputies and the constables.
[01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.600]  They are the ones that are supposed
[01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:18.760]  to be the people's protectors, not municipal rent-a-costs.
[01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.160]  Municipal police are only authorized
[01:27:21.160 --> 01:27:23.560]  to enforce city ordinances.
[01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:24.320]  That's it.
[01:27:24.320 --> 01:27:27.040]  They cannot even enforce the Texas Transportation Code,
[01:27:27.040 --> 01:27:29.160]  because it's a state law.
[01:27:29.160 --> 01:27:30.640]  It's ridiculous.
[01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.400]  And if you take the Constitution literally on its face,
[01:27:33.400 --> 01:27:35.280]  that's 100% accurate.
[01:27:35.280 --> 01:27:35.960]  OK.
[01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:37.440]  And I'll tell you something else too.
[01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:41.000]  Here in Austin, if anyone's ever been down to the State Archives
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.560]  Library, State Archives building,
[01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:46.800]  you'll see it's an excerpt from the Texas Constitution
[01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:47.360]  written.
[01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:51.080]  It's an inscription on the side of the building in giant font.
[01:27:51.080 --> 01:27:54.000]  I'm talking the letters are like six feet tall,
[01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.400]  where it states that all political power is
[01:27:57.400 --> 01:28:03.800]  inherent in we, the people, and all governments derive
[01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:10.520]  their power from the people in a free society.
[01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:15.080]  I'm kind of paraphrasing here, but that's the basic idea.
[01:28:15.080 --> 01:28:18.400]  The government gets its authority from us,
[01:28:18.400 --> 01:28:21.880]  not the other way around.
[01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:25.480]  I mean, I'm just so sad to see that this
[01:28:25.480 --> 01:28:27.680]  is how far our country has come.
[01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:31.200]  When I have people in my family, my ancestors
[01:28:31.200 --> 01:28:35.880]  that died for this republic and for our rights.
[01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:40.800]  And I realized a long time ago that the best
[01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.080]  that they could hope for at the time
[01:28:43.080 --> 01:28:46.520]  was that they could just carry on the fight,
[01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:48.760]  that we would be able to carry on the fight.
[01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.720]  I mean, I'm sure they would have loved to have just given us
[01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:54.120]  this republic and our freedom and our liberty,
[01:28:54.120 --> 01:28:57.240]  but they knew even at the time that we were always
[01:28:57.240 --> 01:29:00.720]  going to have to fight for it all along the way.
[01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.920]  I mean, even back in the day, it's
[01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.000]  like, what kind of republic do we have?
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:07.960]  The woman asked them as they're coming out
[01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:09.960]  of the council of conventions, is this a monarchy
[01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:11.040]  or is it a republic?
[01:29:11.040 --> 01:29:13.080]  And they told her, it's a republic, madam,
[01:29:13.080 --> 01:29:14.680]  if you can keep it.
[01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.080]  And you better know the law.
[01:29:17.080 --> 01:29:21.320]  That's how we keep our republic, folks.
[01:29:21.320 --> 01:29:26.600]  So and now we have to overcome and get
[01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.960]  beyond the corruption from these training programs
[01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:32.800]  of our law enforcement, which teaches everything the opposite
[01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.600]  and even teaches them to break the law.
[01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.800]  So Eddie and I have ranted for a full segment.
[01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:39.640]  When we come back, we will continue
[01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:41.040]  the clip on the other side.
[01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:42.440]  This is the rule of law.
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[01:30:32.200 --> 01:30:33.840]  Care for some frankenfruit?
[01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.320]  How about a modified mango?
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[01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:17.120]  Food manufacturers don't have to tell you when their
[01:31:17.120 --> 01:31:19.120]  ingredients are genetically modified.
[01:31:19.120 --> 01:31:19.760]  Yuck.
[01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.080]  But when it comes to fresh fruits and vegetables, you've
[01:31:22.080 --> 01:31:23.200]  got an ally.
[01:31:23.200 --> 01:31:25.520]  Those little stickers on everything from apples to
[01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:28.400]  zucchini contain a four or five digit number called a
[01:31:28.400 --> 01:31:30.880]  Price Lookup Code, or PLU.
[01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.280]  That helps the cashier figure out if that thing in your hand
[01:31:33.280 --> 01:31:35.320]  is a kohlrabi or a cardoon.
[01:31:35.320 --> 01:31:38.080]  One of the male produce grown with chemical pesticides and
[01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:40.880]  fertilizer has a code that begins with a four.
[01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:42.760]  Think four is a boar, snore.
[01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:44.320]  That's conventional produce.
[01:31:44.320 --> 01:31:46.280]  Organic produce starts with a nine.
[01:31:46.280 --> 01:31:47.440]  Nine is fine.
[01:31:47.440 --> 01:31:50.160]  And genetically modified produce begins with the number
[01:31:50.160 --> 01:31:50.760]  eight.
[01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:53.080]  Personally, I hate eight.
[01:31:53.080 --> 01:31:54.320]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:04.600]  Yeah, and who you want to chip?
[01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:05.360]  Who you take me for?
[01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:06.600]  Free toilet?
[01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:07.880]  Who I want to chip?
[01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:08.840]  I'm not free to leave.
[01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:10.440]  You can't chip me.
[01:32:10.440 --> 01:32:11.920]  I'm sorry.
[01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:14.200]  Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the
[01:32:14.200 --> 01:32:16.840]  evening, put a chip in your body.
[01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.000]  And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide me
[01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:23.640]  from nobody when you say, chip in your mom, chip in your
[01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.640]  daddy, chip in your grandpa and the grammy, chip in me,
[01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:31.600]  chip in your BAB, chip in your family, whole family.
[01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:34.000]  Chip in your dog, and they kept it wrong way.
[01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.400]  Chip in the beef, and you still go eat it.
[01:32:36.400 --> 01:32:38.800]  Chip in the fish, them all in the sea.
[01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.200]  Chip in the shark, and the whale around me.
[01:32:41.200 --> 01:32:43.600]  You know, see mankind, they ain't chip crazy.
[01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:45.960]  That's the kind of thing, man, they want to be be.
[01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:48.360]  Social security, they've got to tell me.
[01:32:48.360 --> 01:32:50.520]  Number, when they give me, they rip it up, you see.
[01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.360]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, chip
[01:32:53.360 --> 01:32:55.320]  you all the dinner time.
[01:32:55.320 --> 01:32:59.840]  Experiment on mankind, but man, you know, say them lie.
[01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:02.480]  Well, we don't want no chip, man, you have your body.
[01:33:02.480 --> 01:33:05.360]  Freedom or something, man, you fight for it.
[01:33:05.360 --> 01:33:07.720]  You should tell them, then we read it.
[01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:09.960]  Constitution set us free.
[01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:12.320]  Don't let them put no chip in your body.
[01:33:12.320 --> 01:33:14.600]  Put no chip in your dog, I kept, you see.
[01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:17.000]  Don't put no chip in your cow and go eat it.
[01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:19.480]  Don't put no chip in the fish and go eat it.
[01:33:19.480 --> 01:33:21.920]  All in the whale and the shark in the sea.
[01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.320]  Put the little chip in the little baby.
[01:33:24.320 --> 01:33:26.400]  Want to put the chip in a grandpa, you see.
[01:33:26.400 --> 01:33:29.120]  Want to put the little chip in a high man's body.
[01:33:29.120 --> 01:33:31.480]  It may go hide in the Atlantic Sea.
[01:33:31.480 --> 01:33:33.880]  Man did have to lie, and me say, go find me.
[01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.960]  All right, we are back, folks.
[01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:42.000]  We're going to continue on with the clip.
[01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:46.160]  And don't take any implanted RFID chips.
[01:33:46.160 --> 01:33:47.880]  We do not deal with the Mark of the Beast
[01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:49.640]  here at Rule of Law Radio.
[01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:51.080]  That's what that song is about.
[01:33:51.080 --> 01:33:53.000]  We'll be right, we're going to the clip now,
[01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:55.680]  and then we'll be back towards the end of the segment
[01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:57.680]  to discuss it.
[01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.040]  Just like a 16-year-old that just gets their driver's
[01:34:01.040 --> 01:34:05.040]  license, there's restrictions on their driving abilities
[01:34:05.040 --> 01:34:07.880]  that don't apply to other people.
[01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:13.880]  For six months, they can't drive without someone else,
[01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:16.360]  or they can't drive after midnight.
[01:34:16.360 --> 01:34:20.600]  There's other things that are obligatory to them
[01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:23.840]  that don't apply to you or somebody else that holds
[01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:26.200]  the license or that's 18 years of age.
[01:34:26.200 --> 01:34:28.200]  Well, I understand what the endorsements on them
[01:34:28.200 --> 01:34:29.360]  do and what they don't do.
[01:34:29.360 --> 01:34:31.080]  That part's not an issue here.
[01:34:31.080 --> 01:34:34.200]  What I'm speaking of is that under the three things
[01:34:34.200 --> 01:34:39.280]  that a driver's license is defined as law
[01:34:39.280 --> 01:34:43.760]  is that the temporary permit becomes
[01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:45.480]  some other type of license.
[01:34:45.480 --> 01:34:47.160]  It's no longer a temporary permit
[01:34:47.160 --> 01:34:49.680]  when it gets issued with the picture.
[01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:51.880]  It's not a temporary license because it's not
[01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:53.960]  an out-of-state applicant getting it at that point
[01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.180]  if it was taken in that manner.
[01:34:56.180 --> 01:34:58.840]  So it's still circular to say it goes back
[01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:01.560]  to being a driver's license because at that point,
[01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:04.840]  the only thing it could become would be an occupational license.
[01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:06.800]  But at that point, as you well know,
[01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:08.680]  because I'm sure you're familiar with them,
[01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:11.400]  521 specifically says an occupational license
[01:35:11.400 --> 01:35:15.000]  is only issued under court order by a judge who
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.280]  must issue that order because the person that's
[01:35:17.280 --> 01:35:20.600]  being issued for lost their normal license, whatever
[01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:23.640]  it may be, for a DUI or an ALR review hearing that
[01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:25.560]  yanked it administratively.
[01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:30.840]  Now, are you missing the fact that don't you
[01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:34.560]  think before the court can order an occupational license,
[01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:36.600]  there has to be the existence of a license?
[01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:37.520]  Exactly.
[01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:39.920]  Now, my question is, what kind of license
[01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.600]  was surrendered in order for that occupational license
[01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:43.760]  to be issued?
[01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:45.880]  Again, was it a temporary license?
[01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:48.880]  Was it a learner's permit?
[01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:50.800]  But that's a circular argument.
[01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:52.280]  These are the only three things.
[01:35:52.280 --> 01:35:53.680]  It's a circular argument that you're
[01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:57.240]  bound to lose an end on any time because how long
[01:35:57.240 --> 01:36:00.560]  in the state of Texas has driver's licenses
[01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:02.320]  been in existence?
[01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:05.120]  Since 1917.
[01:36:05.120 --> 01:36:07.840]  They've been in existence since 1917.
[01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:11.720]  But they have not been used against the private citizens
[01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:14.280]  until the 50s.
[01:36:14.280 --> 01:36:16.920]  And they were used against the private citizens
[01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:18.800]  through a direct misinterpretation
[01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:21.160]  and application of the statute.
[01:36:21.160 --> 01:36:24.120]  But I'll show you here.
[01:36:24.120 --> 01:36:26.120]  And you can look at it and see for yourself.
[01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:33.800]  Now, these are the provisions saying
[01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:35.840]  what a driver's license is right here.
[01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.680]  And as you can see, there are only three.
[01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:41.120]  There is no other thing that qualifies to be
[01:36:41.120 --> 01:36:43.760]  called a driver's license.
[01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:47.040]  And as I was stating, after 521.
[01:36:47.040 --> 01:36:51.560]  Number three states a driver's license means
[01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:54.600]  an authorization issued by the department
[01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:59.080]  for the operation of a motor vehicle, period.
[01:36:59.080 --> 01:37:03.080]  Now, it says the terms include, not
[01:37:03.080 --> 01:37:05.480]  that they are specifically limited to,
[01:37:05.480 --> 01:37:08.600]  but that they include a temporary license
[01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:11.880]  or an instruction permit, an occupational license,
[01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:13.640]  and a gross combination weight rating.
[01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:20.160]  And I just want to pause right here.
[01:37:20.160 --> 01:37:25.320]  Eddie can go on a big rant about the definition
[01:37:25.320 --> 01:37:26.840]  of include and including.
[01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:29.560]  And yes, it does mean it's limited to.
[01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:34.840]  That is very well adjudicated at the US Supreme Court level
[01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:36.440]  and at the state level.
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:40.480]  The word, we have to take these types of legal words,
[01:37:40.480 --> 01:37:44.320]  not in their common usage language.
[01:37:44.320 --> 01:37:46.240]  Like say, for example, I'm a mathematician.
[01:37:46.240 --> 01:37:47.640]  My degree is in math.
[01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:53.360]  And in math, when you say a set, like in set theory,
[01:37:53.360 --> 01:37:56.760]  when a set includes certain things,
[01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:59.360]  it could possibly include other things.
[01:37:59.360 --> 01:38:02.760]  But in law, that's not the way it is.
[01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:06.400]  When you have a list and it says,
[01:38:06.400 --> 01:38:09.240]  especially when there's a definition, when
[01:38:09.240 --> 01:38:11.880]  you're defining a word in a statute
[01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:15.160]  and it says such and such word includes,
[01:38:15.160 --> 01:38:17.040]  and you have a list, that's it.
[01:38:17.040 --> 01:38:17.880]  That's all she wrote.
[01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:18.920]  That's all there is.
[01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:22.160]  There's nothing else that it could possibly be.
[01:38:22.160 --> 01:38:24.000]  But these are points of law that I
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:28.600]  can understand why some people like this law enforcement
[01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:30.400]  agent would not know, because you
[01:38:30.400 --> 01:38:35.480]  have to know something about these types of legal languages
[01:38:35.480 --> 01:38:37.040]  in order to know those things.
[01:38:37.040 --> 01:38:39.360]  But again, my whole point is, this
[01:38:39.360 --> 01:38:42.960]  is what they should be teaching the law enforcement officials
[01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.080]  in their training programs, so that there's
[01:38:45.080 --> 01:38:47.560]  not this kind of confusion.
[01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:49.000]  All right, we're going to continue.
[01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:53.520]  No, that's the next section.
[01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:58.800]  So it says they include those, that they're limited to those.
[01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:00.160]  If I may.
[01:39:00.160 --> 01:39:05.960]  Chapter 522 is entitled commercial driver's licenses.
[01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:09.520]  Whereas this one is just simply entitled driver's licenses.
[01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:11.920]  Now, as you stated before, you agree
[01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:13.840]  there's provisions and classifications
[01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:16.280]  put onto these licenses, A, B, C,
[01:39:16.280 --> 01:39:19.440]  and that each one governs what type of motor vehicle
[01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:23.240]  classification you're allowed to operate.
[01:39:23.240 --> 01:39:27.360]  So why is it then, if this is a different license
[01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:30.320]  than a commercial license, why is it
[01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:33.360]  that the list of motor vehicles that you're
[01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:36.560]  allowed to operate with a class A license under this section
[01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:39.320]  is absolutely identical to that under the commercial driver's
[01:39:39.320 --> 01:39:40.280]  license?
[01:39:40.280 --> 01:39:45.280]  Why is it that every single A, B, and C provision is identical?
[01:39:45.280 --> 01:39:50.440]  The only difference between the CDL in 522 and the licenses
[01:39:50.440 --> 01:39:54.840]  in 521 is that a CDL is the only license that
[01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:57.600]  can carry a hazardous materials endorsement.
[01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.480]  It's the only one.
[01:40:00.480 --> 01:40:04.600]  You will find that in 521 there's a motorcycle endorsement.
[01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:08.720]  But I have seen CDL licenses with motorcycle endorsements.
[01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:10.240]  If they're different licenses, how
[01:40:10.240 --> 01:40:11.720]  are the provisions of both chapters
[01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:16.080]  applicable to the two allegedly separate types of licenses?
[01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:20.320]  They couldn't be, not logically, unless they
[01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:23.040]  are the same license and used for different purposes.
[01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:28.920]  Well, there's several laws that you will have on the books,
[01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.960]  not just in traffic law, but in criminal law
[01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:34.640]  and other civil law, where you're
[01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:37.080]  going to have two different sets of statutes that
[01:40:37.080 --> 01:40:39.400]  can either apply.
[01:40:39.400 --> 01:40:41.640]  OK, now you'll notice he said that there's
[01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:44.800]  other law dealing with traffic in the criminal law.
[01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.560]  Someone please send me an email with the penal code
[01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:52.600]  statute related to traffic.
[01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:54.560]  I've never seen it.
[01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:56.560]  Exactly, there isn't one.
[01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:00.200]  There is no penal law involving traffic.
[01:41:00.200 --> 01:41:05.920]  The only thing remotely related to penal law and traffic
[01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:07.280]  is DUI.
[01:41:07.280 --> 01:41:07.800]  That's right.
[01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:10.880]  And the crime there is not a traffic offense.
[01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:14.800]  It's a penal code offense for basically reckless endangement
[01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:16.400]  under the influence of alcohol.
[01:41:16.400 --> 01:41:19.560]  Right, it has nothing to do with driving.
[01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:21.240]  It has nothing to do with traffic.
[01:41:21.240 --> 01:41:23.640]  It does, but you don't necessarily
[01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:26.760]  have to be just driving a car.
[01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:30.760]  You can be under the influence and creating a public hazard
[01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:34.400]  by the operation of anything that
[01:41:34.400 --> 01:41:37.480]  could be harmful to the public and be convicted of a DUI.
[01:41:37.480 --> 01:41:39.600]  Well, when I said it has nothing to do with driving,
[01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:42.280]  I was talking about the principle of the law,
[01:41:42.280 --> 01:41:45.320]  the purpose of the law, it has to do with reckless endangement.
[01:41:45.320 --> 01:41:49.040]  It's not a traffic offense.
[01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:52.040]  Yeah, it's the only one that is mentioned,
[01:41:52.040 --> 01:41:55.000]  both in the penal code and in the transportation code.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:56.360]  It's the only one.
[01:41:56.360 --> 01:42:00.080]  There is no other criminal law other
[01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:03.880]  than the alleged criminality cited within the transportation
[01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.080]  code itself.
[01:42:06.080 --> 01:42:06.640]  Exactly.
[01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:08.320]  There is nothing in the penal code.
[01:42:08.320 --> 01:42:08.960]  Exactly.
[01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:10.680]  Same thing with civil code.
[01:42:10.680 --> 01:42:14.640]  The civil code does not deal at all with the transportation
[01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:15.880]  per se.
[01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:18.840]  It deals with acts committed that
[01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:21.720]  were harmful to someone else while you were operating
[01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:24.160]  in that commercial capacity.
[01:42:24.160 --> 01:42:27.560]  It's got nothing to do with the regulation
[01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:29.920]  or the requirements of it.
[01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.800]  It's only got to do with the result of negligence
[01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:39.960]  or stupidity or both while occupying and working
[01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:43.640]  in that capacity and causing a harm or injury to someone else
[01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:46.560]  or their property.
[01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:50.600]  He's trying to make distinctions where none exist
[01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:55.000]  and saying that those other locations conceivably
[01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:57.840]  could change what you're reading here
[01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.720]  and control it in a different way when that's not true.
[01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:05.280]  That's absolutely not possible.
[01:43:05.280 --> 01:43:07.880]  Even if he could find something which he can't,
[01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:10.200]  I know for a fact, because I've read through the penal code,
[01:43:10.200 --> 01:43:12.240]  there's nothing there.
[01:43:12.240 --> 01:43:16.320]  But the point is this goes back to the controlling statutes
[01:43:16.320 --> 01:43:18.440]  and the enactments and the titles
[01:43:18.440 --> 01:43:20.280]  and which ones are the controlling statutes.
[01:43:20.280 --> 01:43:23.400]  You can't just muddle everything up and be like, well,
[01:43:23.400 --> 01:43:25.400]  whichever one you want to apply in whichever
[01:43:25.400 --> 01:43:26.520]  particular situation.
[01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:29.800]  And going back to the includes and including thing,
[01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:32.560]  it's opposite of what we would normally think.
[01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:38.280]  It specifically has to say including but not limited to.
[01:43:38.280 --> 01:43:43.840]  The words but not limited to have to be there also
[01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:46.560]  or else if it says includes, then it
[01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:48.600]  means that it's a restrictive list
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:50.560]  and that there's nothing else that could possibly
[01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:51.760]  be in that list.
[01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:53.360]  That's the way it is in law.
[01:43:53.360 --> 01:43:56.200]  So we'll be right back, folks, and we'll continue on.
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[01:46:31.480 --> 01:46:33.760]  Or overlap one another.
[01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:38.400]  And then, typically, the statute itself
[01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:42.480]  will give another authorization in this case.
[01:46:42.480 --> 01:46:45.800]  We can't believe in which one is the criteria
[01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:50.360]  if there's a conflict, or quite often, what they will state
[01:46:50.360 --> 01:46:56.760]  is that in times when more than one section is applicable,
[01:46:56.760 --> 01:47:00.600]  the offense can be filed under either or both sections.
[01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:03.200]  You can't have a double jeopardy situation
[01:47:03.200 --> 01:47:06.360]  where you're charged with two different offenses
[01:47:06.360 --> 01:47:10.200]  for the exact same set of circumstances.
[01:47:10.200 --> 01:47:12.760]  But you can be filed under either section.
[01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:13.720]  That's true.
[01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:16.560]  But you know, or should know as well as I do,
[01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:20.360]  that the law is intended to be taken in its entirety.
[01:47:20.360 --> 01:47:22.920]  You can't just take one provision of law
[01:47:22.920 --> 01:47:25.280]  and use it as you please because of what it says
[01:47:25.280 --> 01:47:28.280]  without taking in the context of the surrounding law.
[01:47:28.280 --> 01:47:31.080]  So when there is a controlling chapter such as these
[01:47:31.080 --> 01:47:34.720]  that defines what something is, just
[01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:38.160]  because you see driver's license in a different statute
[01:47:38.160 --> 01:47:40.840]  doesn't mean you get to determine what a driver's
[01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:43.720]  license is outside of the provisions that control it.
[01:47:47.400 --> 01:47:53.000]  And I mean, I have reams of federal, United States, Texas,
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:55.760]  and virtually every other state of the union,
[01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.040]  state Supreme Court cases, criminal appellate cases,
[01:47:59.040 --> 01:48:02.520]  all of them which absolutely refute the argument
[01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:07.160]  that the people do not have the right to use their own roads
[01:48:07.160 --> 01:48:08.600]  because they're our roads.
[01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:11.360]  We just made the state the caretaker.
[01:48:11.360 --> 01:48:14.360]  They're to keep them up for our use only.
[01:48:14.360 --> 01:48:17.800]  The commercial use is what is an extraordinary use
[01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:19.400]  outside of the norm.
[01:48:19.400 --> 01:48:23.120]  And that use, according to the courts, can be regulated.
[01:48:23.120 --> 01:48:26.880]  But they have said in very specific clear language,
[01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:30.160]  the people have an absolute right to the use of the roads.
[01:48:30.160 --> 01:48:31.840]  The people have an absolute right
[01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:34.520]  to the use of their property upon those roads.
[01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.120]  Every individual has the right in his own private capacity
[01:48:38.120 --> 01:48:41.480]  to travel on those roads in an automobile or a carriage
[01:48:41.480 --> 01:48:43.880]  or any other conveyance of the day.
[01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:47.200]  And not only that, he is allowed to be left
[01:48:47.200 --> 01:48:50.600]  alone in that capacity unless he is actually
[01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:53.200]  in the process of committing an act that's causing harm
[01:48:53.200 --> 01:48:54.760]  to persons or property.
[01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.400]  There's nothing the government can do to him
[01:48:57.400 --> 01:49:00.200]  because he has the right to the use of his property
[01:49:00.200 --> 01:49:01.760]  for its intended purposes.
[01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:03.360]  He has the right to travel.
[01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:05.360]  It is a part of his liberty.
[01:49:05.360 --> 01:49:07.480]  And he has the right to change his position
[01:49:07.480 --> 01:49:09.560]  at his own desire and whim.
[01:49:09.560 --> 01:49:11.160]  And it's very clear in the case law.
[01:49:11.160 --> 01:49:12.120]  It's not ambiguous.
[01:49:12.120 --> 01:49:15.080]  Well, actually, I would have to disagree with you.
[01:49:15.080 --> 01:49:15.840]  OK.
[01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:19.040]  Now, some of what you say is true.
[01:49:19.040 --> 01:49:22.200]  But I really think you're misapplying the references
[01:49:22.200 --> 01:49:25.040]  that that case law contains to when you're talking
[01:49:25.040 --> 01:49:28.160]  about public thoroughfares, when you're talking
[01:49:28.160 --> 01:49:32.440]  about the laws of the land and certainly the laws
[01:49:32.440 --> 01:49:35.000]  that we operate under today.
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:37.600]  And it's quite obvious that you can't sit there
[01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:42.040]  and make an argument to me that our founding fathers, when
[01:49:42.040 --> 01:49:46.800]  they enacted the language of our Constitution,
[01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:52.520]  envisioned driver's licenses and public roadways
[01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:56.040]  because vehicles didn't even exist.
[01:49:56.040 --> 01:49:56.800]  OK.
[01:49:56.800 --> 01:50:00.920]  Now, what we've got here is a viewpoint
[01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:04.560]  that the Constitution is now a living document that
[01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:07.440]  can change its meaning over time.
[01:50:07.440 --> 01:50:10.400]  By his stipulation that the founding fathers didn't
[01:50:10.400 --> 01:50:13.080]  envision it because it has occurred,
[01:50:13.080 --> 01:50:17.040]  the Constitution must give way to new provisions that
[01:50:17.040 --> 01:50:20.360]  aren't written into it and new ideas of thought
[01:50:20.360 --> 01:50:23.960]  of control of things that aren't specifically written into it.
[01:50:23.960 --> 01:50:27.480]  Well, horse and carriage is not written into it either.
[01:50:27.480 --> 01:50:28.240]  OK.
[01:50:28.240 --> 01:50:31.120]  Railroads are not written into it either.
[01:50:31.120 --> 01:50:34.680]  Breathing isn't written into it either.
[01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:37.720]  But the government still can't regulate those things
[01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.280]  beyond the power we the people give them
[01:50:40.280 --> 01:50:44.520]  in other ways specific to our Constitution.
[01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:48.320]  And I again assert that if we didn't give them an authority,
[01:50:48.320 --> 01:50:50.040]  they don't have it.
[01:50:50.040 --> 01:50:52.840]  They don't automatically inherit every power
[01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:54.840]  we didn't specifically forbid.
[01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:56.960]  That will completely destroy the entire reason
[01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:58.800]  for even having a Constitution.
[01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:02.600]  This guy is, he's got it backwards, I have to say.
[01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:05.240]  He absolutely has it backwards.
[01:51:05.240 --> 01:51:07.680]  He's coming from a perspective that the government
[01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:12.720]  can do whatever it wants unless the Constitution specifically
[01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:13.600]  prohibits it.
[01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:15.560]  That is backwards.
[01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:18.360]  Sovereigns, citizens can do whatever
[01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:21.280]  we want unless it's specifically prohibited.
[01:51:21.280 --> 01:51:25.160]  Government can only do what it's specifically allowed to do.
[01:51:25.160 --> 01:51:27.920]  And actually, I completely disagree with him
[01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:31.360]  that the founding fathers didn't envision driver's licenses
[01:51:31.360 --> 01:51:35.520]  and things like that in the context of where
[01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:36.640]  he's putting this.
[01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:40.040]  They may not have envisioned RFID chips and driver's licenses
[01:51:40.040 --> 01:51:41.680]  and all these things specifically,
[01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:44.360]  but what they did envision and what they had experience
[01:51:44.360 --> 01:51:45.440]  was tyranny.
[01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:48.280]  And so they set up this Constitution
[01:51:48.280 --> 01:51:51.640]  to limit and restrict the government where they're only
[01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:55.000]  authorized to do certain specific things and nothing
[01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:56.400]  more.
[01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:56.920]  Right.
[01:51:56.920 --> 01:51:58.800]  It's very clear that even though they
[01:51:58.800 --> 01:52:04.280]  didn't envision motor vehicles or railroads of that type
[01:52:04.280 --> 01:52:07.640]  that we have today, they envisioned the right
[01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.560]  to travel and the right to liberty
[01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:12.000]  and the right of the people to go from state
[01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  to state unencumbered and unfettered by government.
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:19.160]  It's written right into the United States Constitution
[01:52:19.160 --> 01:52:22.040]  that everyone in the United States
[01:52:22.040 --> 01:52:24.800]  has the right to go from state to state
[01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:26.440]  without government interference.
[01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:27.400]  Absolutely.
[01:52:27.400 --> 01:52:30.760]  So I'm sorry, but this guy is wrong.
[01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:34.280]  The Founding Fathers did envision a situation like this.
[01:52:34.280 --> 01:52:36.120]  That's why they put it in the Constitution
[01:52:36.120 --> 01:52:38.680]  that we have the right to travel.
[01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:40.120]  They enumerated that right.
[01:52:40.120 --> 01:52:44.400]  We already had that right from God, our creator.
[01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:49.480]  I mean, this is what I'm talking about, the mindset.
[01:52:49.480 --> 01:52:53.120]  This is what comes from the collectivist mentality
[01:52:53.120 --> 01:52:57.240]  and the training programs.
[01:52:57.240 --> 01:53:00.520]  We have to do something, Eddie.
[01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:03.960]  We've got to get a grip on these training programs
[01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:09.160]  and to shake this collectivist mentality off and get things
[01:53:09.160 --> 01:53:11.480]  back to normal.
[01:53:11.480 --> 01:53:13.200]  All right, here we go.
[01:53:13.200 --> 01:53:17.000]  At that time, automobiles, I should say.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.320]  But the ability to travel did.
[01:53:19.320 --> 01:53:21.600]  That's right, the ability to travel did.
[01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:25.600]  But it stands to reason that as these things come about,
[01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:31.360]  that the laws are changed to apply to the transportation
[01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:35.320]  modes of the day, just like air safety travel,
[01:53:35.320 --> 01:53:40.960]  when airplanes now are a dominant force in travel that
[01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:42.600]  never existed before.
[01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:45.520]  And there's new laws and rules and regulations
[01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:48.160]  that come into effect.
[01:53:48.160 --> 01:53:52.960]  Now, a lot of what you say is true about enabling a person
[01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:57.080]  to be able to travel and to use the existence.
[01:53:57.080 --> 01:53:59.880]  But driving is a privilege.
[01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:01.640]  It is not a right.
[01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:07.400]  The problem is the state laws control your ability
[01:54:07.400 --> 01:54:13.000]  to travel by that privileged means.
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.280]  I would disagree with that.
[01:54:14.280 --> 01:54:15.760]  And the reason is, is the example
[01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:17.680]  you gave being a good one.
[01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:20.540]  Air travel, you were talking about persons
[01:54:20.540 --> 01:54:24.160]  engaged in commercial process for the purpose
[01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:26.200]  of making a profit by transporting
[01:54:26.200 --> 01:54:28.240]  persons and property.
[01:54:28.240 --> 01:54:30.400]  You're talking about a business.
[01:54:30.400 --> 01:54:32.400]  The business can be regulated.
[01:54:32.400 --> 01:54:35.000]  Generally speaking, you're talking about a business.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:36.120]  But that's no different.
[01:54:36.120 --> 01:54:38.880]  If I own a private aircraft and I want to fly,
[01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:41.400]  I have just as much entitlement to that
[01:54:41.400 --> 01:54:43.040]  as a commercial airline.
[01:54:43.040 --> 01:54:43.720]  That's true.
[01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:46.360]  But you're also not required to have a license to do it.
[01:54:46.360 --> 01:54:46.920]  That's right.
[01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:48.960]  Just like I don't have to have a driver's license
[01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:50.320]  to get on a Greyhound bus.
[01:54:50.320 --> 01:54:52.560]  But I'm still using the right way.
[01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:54.960]  But the guy driving the bus had to have a license.
[01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:55.760]  That's true.
[01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:56.520]  OK, because.
[01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:59.360]  The law didn't tell me I couldn't travel on the highway.
[01:54:59.360 --> 01:55:01.720]  It just told me I couldn't drive that vehicle
[01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:03.080]  unless I was licensed.
[01:55:03.080 --> 01:55:04.520]  I'm going to pause it here.
[01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:07.680]  This guy doesn't know what the definition of driving is.
[01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:15.640]  The definition of driving is to, you're engaging in commerce.
[01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:18.320]  Right, you're being paid for your act
[01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:22.080]  of driving that vehicle for commercial purposes.
[01:55:22.080 --> 01:55:24.040]  That's exactly what it is.
[01:55:24.040 --> 01:55:28.680]  But in this particular case, the distinction he's making is,
[01:55:28.680 --> 01:55:32.680]  once again, you'll see that he said that my right to travel
[01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:35.760]  is limited to letting someone else take me.
[01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:36.800]  Yeah, I never.
[01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:39.520]  I can still use the road, but only if someone else
[01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:41.160]  can take me.
[01:55:41.160 --> 01:55:45.040]  I don't see anything anywhere in law
[01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:49.880]  ever that limits or restricts our right to travel in that way.
[01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:51.640]  And in fact, I don't know what case law
[01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:53.480]  he thinks he's talking about, but I
[01:55:53.480 --> 01:55:56.040]  have studied a lot of case law on the right
[01:55:56.040 --> 01:55:57.600]  to travel over the years.
[01:55:57.600 --> 01:56:01.400]  There's a lot of it out there, and none of it says this.
[01:56:01.400 --> 01:56:05.240]  OK, it's unfortunate, but he's just uninformed.
[01:56:05.240 --> 01:56:07.000]  And that's why we have to get back control
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:08.880]  over the training programs.
[01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:11.040]  Yeah, and we'll go on with the thing
[01:56:11.040 --> 01:56:14.880]  about the licensing of operating an aircraft.
[01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:16.640]  You will find very quickly, if you ever
[01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:19.880]  go to take flying lessons, you do not ever
[01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:21.360]  have to get a license.
[01:56:21.360 --> 01:56:23.680]  There's no requirement for you to get a pilot's license
[01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:25.680]  to fly an airplane, unless you're
[01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:27.440]  going to do it for commercial purposes.
[01:56:27.440 --> 01:56:30.840]  And the same thing applies to the public roadways
[01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:32.800]  and private vehicles.
[01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:37.080]  You don't have to get a license if you're traveling
[01:56:37.080 --> 01:56:42.640]  and being the one who's behind the wheel, OK?
[01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:44.760]  And I don't want to say driving, because driving
[01:56:44.760 --> 01:56:46.600]  and I don't want to use the word operating,
[01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:50.400]  because that all implies that you're in commerce.
[01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:53.520]  But it's the exact same thing with flying a plane
[01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:57.400]  and with traveling, but being the one
[01:56:57.400 --> 01:57:01.640]  behind the wheel of your private vehicle controlling
[01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:03.800]  the car, you may say.
[01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:05.160]  You don't have to have a license.
[01:57:05.160 --> 01:57:07.840]  It's very clear in the Texas Transportation Code.
[01:57:07.840 --> 01:57:09.400]  These people are confused.
[01:57:09.400 --> 01:57:11.680]  They don't understand.
[01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:16.600]  And the legislature was very clear about it, too.
[01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:18.880]  Well, considering the amount of time we got left, Deborah,
[01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:21.040]  it might be a good idea just to wait for the rest of this
[01:57:21.040 --> 01:57:22.280]  for Thursday.
[01:57:22.280 --> 01:57:24.680]  And let's just finish up with some commentary on this.
[01:57:24.680 --> 01:57:29.520]  But having taken flying lessons myself in Wichita, Kansas,
[01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:35.360]  I would go out virtually every single day and go flying.
[01:57:35.360 --> 01:57:37.960]  All I had to do was go out to the airport
[01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:40.000]  where my instructor was, let her know
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:41.600]  I wanted to take out a plane.
[01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:44.960]  I wanted to go do my maneuvers, go do whatever I wanted.
[01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:45.840]  And I could do that.
[01:57:45.840 --> 01:57:48.200]  I didn't have to have the instructor go with me.
[01:57:48.200 --> 01:57:50.600]  I did not have to have a license.
[01:57:50.600 --> 01:57:54.120]  I am fully authorized once I've passed the initial ground
[01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:56.920]  check and the initial flight checks
[01:57:56.920 --> 01:58:00.080]  that I know how to approach the airport, land the plane,
[01:58:00.080 --> 01:58:04.120]  take off in the plane, and follow the radio requirements
[01:58:04.120 --> 01:58:05.760]  and procedures.
[01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:08.680]  After that, I can fly any time I want to.
[01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:10.320]  Absolutely, because you're traveling.
[01:58:10.320 --> 01:58:12.200]  You don't have to have a license to do it.
[01:58:12.200 --> 01:58:13.400]  Because you're traveling.
[01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.240]  All right, folks, that's going to be it for tonight.
[01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:20.720]  But please tune in Thursday and pick up the rest of this.
[01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:25.160]  And Deborah will post this sound file with the archives.
[01:58:25.160 --> 01:58:26.560]  Please feel free to download it so
[01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:30.600]  that you'll be up to speed on Thursday night.
[01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:31.880]  And we'll continue it then.
[01:58:35.320 --> 01:58:37.280]  We'll see you Thursday night, folks.
[01:58:37.280 --> 01:58:40.680]  And God bless.
[01:58:40.680 --> 01:59:08.080]  I'm dangerous, dangerous, if you are a bully, treat me good.
[01:59:08.080 --> 01:59:13.080]  Watch my side, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:13.080 --> 01:59:20.560]  If you are a chucky, somebody chucky bump me.
[01:59:20.560 --> 01:59:28.080]  If you are a chucky, chucky, somebody chucky bump me.
[01:59:28.080 --> 01:59:32.080]  I'm like a stepping razor, watch my side.
[01:59:32.080 --> 01:59:35.560]  I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous.
[01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:39.560]  I'm like a stepping razor, watch my side.
[01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:42.560]  I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:42.560 --> 01:59:46.040]  If you eat, I won't.
[01:59:46.040 --> 01:59:50.040]  If you treat me good.
[01:59:50.040 --> 01:59:53.520]  If you treat me, let's move.
[01:59:53.520 --> 02:00:09.480]  You better treat me good, good, good.