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[00:00.000 --> 00:11.320]  New York and Ohio pension funds are jointly suing BP for $220 million, claiming the company
[00:11.320 --> 00:17.680]  made false and misleading statements regarding BP safety protocols, operations and safety
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[00:18.680 --> 00:24.400]  The Justice Department has concluded a two-year investigation into the Bush administration's
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[00:30.320 --> 00:36.200]  criticism. The Bush administration have politicized the Justice Department, a charge that contributed
[00:36.200 --> 00:40.960]  to the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
[00:40.960 --> 00:46.360]  In Iraq Wednesday, 30 people, including women and children, were killed and 46 injured in
[00:46.360 --> 00:52.420]  a car bomb explosion in Bakuba. Wednesday's blast is the latest deadly attack in the city
[00:52.420 --> 00:57.880]  in recent days. Analysts have warned violence may surge if negotiations on forming a new
[00:57.880 --> 01:00.640]  government drag on.
[01:00.640 --> 01:05.080]  The Associated Press says the Department of Homeland Security filtered hundreds of public
[01:05.080 --> 01:10.680]  records requests through political appointees, allowing them to pass judgment on what was
[01:10.680 --> 01:15.800]  being released. The appointees were allowed to vet records requests deemed politically
[01:15.800 --> 01:21.880]  sensitive. They also required career employees to provide information about who had requested
[01:21.880 --> 01:26.760]  records, whether the request was a journalist, and in the case of Congressional representatives,
[01:26.760 --> 01:29.320]  whether they were Republican or Democrat.
[01:29.320 --> 01:36.240]  In July 2009, the DHS issued a directive requiring a wide range of public records requests to
[01:36.240 --> 01:41.600]  pass through political appointees for vetting. These included any requests dealing with quote
[01:41.600 --> 01:47.200]  a controversial or sensitive subject or pertaining to meetings involving prominent business leaders
[01:47.200 --> 01:51.840]  and elected officials. Political appointees were interested in knowing what records journalists
[01:51.840 --> 01:56.800]  were requesting so the administration could prepare a response in advance. The Department
[01:56.800 --> 02:01.600]  reportedly halted the practice earlier this month when it handed over its internal emails
[02:01.600 --> 02:02.600]  to AP.
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[02:07.080 --> 02:12.960]  Tony Haywood, CEO of BP and other oil bosses, will be asked to give evidence to a new UK
[02:12.960 --> 02:18.600]  inquiry into deep water drilling. Tim Yeo, a British Member of Parliament chairing the
[02:18.600 --> 02:23.760]  Energy and Climate Change Committee, will lead MPs investigating North Sea offshore
[02:23.760 --> 02:29.560]  drilling, asking serious questions about oil companies' plans for dealing with spills.
[02:29.560 --> 02:35.920]  On Wednesday, BP's four biggest rivals launched a $1 billion joint venture to fund a new deep
[02:35.920 --> 02:41.360]  water response system designed to prevent a repeat of the BP spill. Chevron, Conoco,
[02:41.360 --> 02:46.520]  Philips, ExxonMobil and Royal Dutch Shell have drawn up new safety rules to present
[02:46.520 --> 02:53.520]  to the US government in an effort to preempt damaging regulations.
[03:16.520 --> 03:37.520]  Well, I received my remedy today. It came in a box just like they say. I accepted it
[03:37.520 --> 03:50.520]  for value right away. It's now 300 and not later. We are originators and the pathway
[03:50.520 --> 03:58.520]  seems to get straighter every day. And I can take anything that belongs to me and put it
[03:58.520 --> 04:19.520]  to good use. I know some architects. I know some engineers. They see the evidence. They
[04:19.520 --> 04:28.520]  know certain things. What's up with the blatant deception? What is the nature of what you
[04:28.520 --> 04:37.520]  might gain? I see something headed straight for you. I think it looks just like a train.
[04:37.520 --> 04:49.520]  It smells like a sham or something. I can see them playing fast and loose. Whatever's
[04:49.520 --> 04:55.520]  good for the gander is going to work for the goose. Turn these bad guys' tricksterisms
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[05:36.520 --> 05:43.520]  We're going now to Mike in Texas. Mike, thanks for calling in. What do you got for us tonight?
[05:43.520 --> 05:52.520]  Hi, Deborah, Eddie. This is a continuation of what we were talking about a week or so
[05:52.520 --> 05:59.520]  ago. I haven't had a chance to get back to you because I've just been so busy with work,
[05:59.520 --> 06:09.520]  fortunately. I'm not going to complain about that. This is back to the no seatbelt ticket
[06:09.520 --> 06:16.520]  which went to Court of Appeals and they said they didn't have jurisdiction to determine
[06:16.520 --> 06:24.520]  whether there was jurisdiction. I'm going to take it next to Court of Criminal Appeals.
[06:24.520 --> 06:32.520]  I've been reading through TRAAP to see exactly what all I need to do. I've got about another
[06:32.520 --> 06:43.520]  week to get my petition in for that. That's where I'm going with it. We're just going
[06:43.520 --> 06:52.520]  to see if anybody had any ideas, suggestions or anything like that since I've never really
[06:52.520 --> 07:01.520]  gone after anything at this high level before. Have you looked up to see what everything
[07:01.520 --> 07:05.520]  is that you need to have filed and what the deadlines are and the format it is and everything
[07:05.520 --> 07:11.520]  else? Yes, I've got all of that. Have you already formulated the questions you're going
[07:11.520 --> 07:17.520]  to be asking the criminal court to make the determination of regarding the lower court's
[07:17.520 --> 07:28.520]  decision? Yes. Basically, it's the fact that the original court had no jurisdiction due
[07:28.520 --> 07:36.520]  to the fact that the prosecutor had no post of office. The prosecutor was also assigned
[07:36.520 --> 07:47.520]  on the complaint. I was going through... Was he the affiant or was he the verifier? He
[07:47.520 --> 08:00.520]  was the affiant, the complainant, which he can't do that. No, he can't do that at all.
[08:00.520 --> 08:07.520]  Anyway, what I was doing, I was going through some of the Court of Criminal Appeals cases,
[08:07.520 --> 08:14.520]  doing some searches on it, and I did find one where someone had brought up the oath
[08:14.520 --> 08:21.520]  of office issue, but whenever they got to that level, that was the first time they brought
[08:21.520 --> 08:26.520]  it up. They hadn't brought it up ever in any of the lower courts, and so they threw it
[08:26.520 --> 08:34.520]  out saying, you should have brought it up then. That's not really enough to say that,
[08:34.520 --> 08:41.520]  okay, they're going to rule on it whenever it gets there, but at least of the few cases
[08:41.520 --> 08:47.520]  that I've been able to search through and find something related to that, it at least
[08:47.520 --> 08:54.520]  tells me that somebody has brought it up to that level, and they have said that for us
[08:54.520 --> 08:59.520]  to be able to consider it, you're going to have to bring it up from the beginning, which
[08:59.520 --> 09:10.520]  I have done, so that part I've got preserved. Other than that, I'm just trying to go through
[09:10.520 --> 09:19.520]  it all, and I think I can put everything together the way they want it. It may not be as pretty
[09:19.520 --> 09:26.520]  as they always see it, but it will at least conform the specifications and should be at
[09:26.520 --> 09:33.520]  least admissible. Okay. Well, if you've got it that far and that prepared, then it sounds
[09:33.520 --> 09:39.520]  like you've got what you need. As long as you preserve the issue for appeal, then there's
[09:39.520 --> 09:44.520]  no reason why the appeals court should not have ruled on it to begin with, because the
[09:44.520 --> 09:50.520]  entire purpose of it was to determine whether or not the lower court obeyed the law and
[09:50.520 --> 09:54.520]  whether or not they committed an appealable error, and lack of jurisdiction is most certainly
[09:54.520 --> 10:02.520]  an appealable error. Yes, but like I said, the court of appeals used the loophole that
[10:02.520 --> 10:13.520]  their minimum jurisdiction is fines over $100, and this was a fine under $100, and so they
[10:13.520 --> 10:18.520]  said, well, because of that, you don't even rise to our level of jurisdiction, so we don't
[10:18.520 --> 10:23.520]  have jurisdiction when we're dismissing the appeal. But that's the whole problem right
[10:23.520 --> 10:28.520]  there. I need to know what statute they were using to say their limit's $100, because that
[10:28.520 --> 10:34.520]  creates a black hole for people to fall into, just like what you're experiencing now. If
[10:34.520 --> 10:39.520]  you have the right of appeal on an appealable error, and they are the next court in the
[10:39.520 --> 10:44.520]  line of appeals for the appealable error, then how can there be a money limit set on
[10:44.520 --> 10:48.520]  whether or not they can hear it, because you are then denied the right of appeal if it
[10:48.520 --> 10:54.520]  doesn't meet that qualification? That's a legal black hole, and that needs to be dealt
[10:54.520 --> 11:05.520]  with. But that is in trap. I'm not at my desk. I'm in the middle of an oil field out in
[11:05.520 --> 11:20.520]  West Texas, because I'm working. If you look in trap under court of appeals and jurisdiction,
[11:20.520 --> 11:30.520]  you will find it, and it does say that it must be either fine greater than $100 or greater,
[11:30.520 --> 11:40.520]  or the constitutionality of the charging statute, the statute you were charged under. Since
[11:40.520 --> 11:47.520]  it was not either one of those, they said, we don't have jurisdiction. Don't.
[11:47.520 --> 11:55.520]  Okay. When he says trap, folks, he's talking about the Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure,
[11:55.520 --> 12:01.520]  I'm presuming. Yes, that's right. I'm sorry. Too much shorthand.
[12:01.520 --> 12:08.520]  Okay. Well, whenever you do get back in arms reach of that stuff, just please send me a
[12:08.520 --> 12:12.520]  scanned copy of whatever they've sent you in reference to the sightings that they're
[12:12.520 --> 12:16.520]  using, because that's something I want to integrate into the information we're taking
[12:16.520 --> 12:22.520]  to the legislature and point out exactly where they are leaving no appellate review for the
[12:22.520 --> 12:26.520]  people in this regard. Yeah, I emailed that to you a couple of weeks
[12:26.520 --> 12:29.520]  ago. Oh, did you?
[12:29.520 --> 12:35.520]  Yes. I emailed you the opinion. Okay. I'll go back through and take a look
[12:35.520 --> 12:39.520]  at it again then. I've gotten so much email here lately.
[12:39.520 --> 12:46.520]  Okay. All right. Well, anyway, that's where I am, and that's where I'm headed with it,
[12:46.520 --> 12:53.520]  and so far I think I'm kind of on track. Sounds like you are.
[12:53.520 --> 12:57.520]  Okay. I appreciate that. Yes, sir.
[12:57.520 --> 13:04.520]  I just wanted to check in with you, and as I get things more put together, I'll send
[13:04.520 --> 13:09.520]  you a copy of all of that. Okay. I'll be looking forward to it.
[13:09.520 --> 13:11.520]  All right. Thanks, Eddie. Thanks, Deborah. Bye.
[13:11.520 --> 13:18.520]  All right. Thanks, Mike. Okay. We're going now to Ken in Texas. Ken, thanks for calling
[13:18.520 --> 13:23.520]  in. What's on your mind? Well, hi there. A couple things. One, I just
[13:23.520 --> 13:30.520]  wanted to touch base and just let you know that I've put together this website that has
[13:30.520 --> 13:37.520]  a lot of municipal court stuff. It's called municipalcourtfraud.com, and on there I have
[13:37.520 --> 13:43.520]  a special page or a special form that people can put in if they've had bad experiences
[13:43.520 --> 13:48.520]  in the municipal court or if they've had some good experiences, and this is kind of in the
[13:48.520 --> 13:55.520]  form of a blog or a post, and I'm hoping that by people posting their experiences, we can
[13:55.520 --> 14:04.520]  begin to collect a database of usable information that shows consistent criminal activities
[14:04.520 --> 14:10.520]  in various communities. Second, I wanted to give you an update on my
[14:10.520 --> 14:19.520]  traffic case that I have against the city in North Texas, and this is a very large,
[14:19.520 --> 14:28.520]  prosperous city, Plano, and I'm fighting this using Randy Kelton's methodology, and I have
[14:28.520 --> 14:33.520]  many, as I've spoken to you before, Eddie, I have many criminal complaints on the various
[14:33.520 --> 14:40.520]  actors in this case, from the prosecutor and the judge, also down to the policeman and
[14:40.520 --> 14:47.520]  even the bailiff. Also now, I have implicated the mayor and the district attorney.
[14:47.520 --> 15:00.520]  So anyway, I sent a letter to, among other people, I sent a letter to the city manager
[15:00.520 --> 15:06.520]  and the assistant mayor and some other city people, and I got a reply back from the city
[15:06.520 --> 15:10.520]  attorney, which I thought you would find very interesting, and I wanted to see what you
[15:10.520 --> 15:15.520]  might, maybe, what they're really telling me here that I can use. If I can read it,
[15:15.520 --> 15:20.520]  it's about three or four sentences. It says, the complaints that you've raised against
[15:20.520 --> 15:25.520]  various city officials, and these are criminal complaints, verified criminal complaints,
[15:25.520 --> 15:31.520]  have been forwarded to me. Your complaints stem from the activities of the court personnel,
[15:31.520 --> 15:38.520]  police, and prosecutor in the performance of their official duties. I have reviewed your
[15:38.520 --> 15:44.520]  allegations, and you have not raised any viable facts or issues that require further action.
[15:44.520 --> 15:49.520]  As you are the defendant in the proceedings in the municipal court, any issues you have
[15:49.520 --> 15:54.520]  with regard to the prosecution of these charges should be addressed in that forum. Yours
[15:54.520 --> 15:57.520]  very truly.
[15:57.520 --> 15:59.520]  And who sent you this?
[15:59.520 --> 16:01.520]  Go ahead.
[16:01.520 --> 16:02.520]  Who sent you this?
[16:02.520 --> 16:05.520]  This was from the city attorney.
[16:05.520 --> 16:07.520]  Okay.
[16:07.520 --> 16:13.520]  To me, it sounds like she's just ratified all their criminal activities. That's perfectly
[16:13.520 --> 16:16.520]  fine.
[16:16.520 --> 16:21.520]  Well, you're correct. See, the thing they don't like to admit, in which the courts
[16:21.520 --> 16:27.520]  protect them in, is that they, it's even written right here into O'Connor's. O'Connor's
[16:27.520 --> 16:35.520]  had the gall to write in their Texas Causes of Action book that the courts of Texas are
[16:35.520 --> 16:41.520]  divided on whether or not it is illegal for an officer to commit a crime in the process
[16:41.520 --> 16:46.520]  of exercising their duties or any other public servant. But if you'll hang on, we'll get
[16:46.520 --> 16:50.520]  to that on the other side. This is Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton is off tonight.
[16:50.520 --> 16:54.520]  Rule of Law Radio. We will be right back.
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[18:02.520 --> 18:08.520]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the Father can deliver you. And don't let bad
[18:08.520 --> 18:17.520]  people hurt you until Satan gets behind you. You know what I mean, my friend? And all I
[18:17.520 --> 18:18.520]  got you is a couple.
[18:18.520 --> 18:38.520]  Alright, folks, we are back. Please continue.
[18:38.520 --> 18:49.520]  Okay, so I just read you that brief letter from the city attorney, and to me it sounds
[18:49.520 --> 18:55.520]  like she has ratified or approved all the criminal activities of the various government
[18:55.520 --> 19:00.520]  actors, including the mayor now.
[19:00.520 --> 19:07.520]  Yeah, again, they're operating under the presumption of official or governmental immunity because
[19:07.520 --> 19:14.520]  the crime was committed under the auspices of an official duty. Unfortunately for our
[19:14.520 --> 19:22.520]  so-called oligarchical courts, they cannot sanction a criminal act as being part of an
[19:22.520 --> 19:29.520]  official duty. At least O'Connor got that right in her book. Okay, they cannot, they
[19:29.520 --> 19:36.520]  have no immunity for criminal actions, violations of the state constitution, or violations of
[19:36.520 --> 19:42.520]  state law, period. It's right there that that's the way the courts see this. And then
[19:42.520 --> 19:49.520]  in the same paragraph state that the courts are divided on whether or not a public servant
[19:49.520 --> 19:56.520]  commits a crime when they violate a law or a right while performing under the auspices
[19:56.520 --> 19:58.520]  of performing the duties of their office.
[19:58.520 --> 20:05.520]  I got news for you, folks. If you commit a crime, you have no immunity, especially if
[20:05.520 --> 20:13.520]  you're a public servant. You can't claim that your job gives you protection against
[20:13.520 --> 20:18.520]  violating someone's rights or breaking the law. That's just stupid.
[20:18.520 --> 20:25.520]  For understanding, could this have come from the fact that maybe in some police cases,
[20:25.520 --> 20:31.520]  such as Vice, that they really do need to smoke the dope or be with the prostitute or
[20:31.520 --> 20:35.520]  whatever to show that there is a crime?
[20:35.520 --> 20:41.520]  Well, again, that depends on what you're actually defining as a crime. Anything that's
[20:41.520 --> 20:47.520]  a malum prohibitum, then no. It wouldn't apply anyway. They wouldn't need immunity
[20:47.520 --> 20:54.520]  from that in certain regards. It's the malum insane, which is what you're charging them
[20:54.520 --> 21:00.520]  with, that makes what they're doing a crime. When they do it with intent and purpose to
[21:00.520 --> 21:04.520]  commit a harm, and that's what they do.
[21:04.520 --> 21:17.520]  Yes, exactly. When they lied about me failing to appear or they conspired to convict me,
[21:17.520 --> 21:24.520]  various things, when they have exercised rights or exercised authority that they do not have
[21:24.520 --> 21:30.520]  an official oppression, these are all malum insaic, correct?
[21:30.520 --> 21:35.520]  Correct. They're done with knowing intent and purpose. That's a malum insaic.
[21:35.520 --> 21:44.520]  Okay. Then this letter here, this is just, I don't know, it sounds like this is a very
[21:44.520 --> 21:48.520]  nice little gift she gave me here because she's apparently ratified their criminal
[21:48.520 --> 21:52.520]  activities, saying that that's okay for them to do that.
[21:52.520 --> 21:57.520]  Well, she's trying to put up a smoke screen of protection is what she's doing, which makes
[21:57.520 --> 22:04.520]  her actions a violation of law under Section 71 of the Penal Code, organized criminal
[22:04.520 --> 22:10.520]  activity. It also makes it a crime under 38.05 Penal Code, hindering apprehension or
[22:10.520 --> 22:15.520]  prosecution.
[22:15.520 --> 22:20.520]  Also, as a city attorney, it makes her liable for bar grievance, I think.
[22:20.520 --> 22:22.520]  Yes, it does.
[22:22.520 --> 22:25.520]  Right.
[22:25.520 --> 22:30.520]  Now, the problem is is the city attorney has no authority in a criminal case involving
[22:30.520 --> 22:37.520]  violations of state law. So in the case of them representing the city in a criminal
[22:37.520 --> 22:45.520]  matter, I think it's going to create a serious issue for that city attorney.
[22:45.520 --> 22:49.520]  I guess I don't understand that.
[22:49.520 --> 22:54.520]  Well, the city attorney cannot act as private counsel for any of these officials.
[22:54.520 --> 22:57.520]  Oh, okay, in their own personal capacity.
[22:57.520 --> 23:01.520]  Correct.
[23:01.520 --> 23:08.520]  Even if the city got, you know, and suing the city itself as a civil action, it's not
[23:08.520 --> 23:14.520]  a criminal action. So the fact that the city attorney is taking it upon themselves to
[23:14.520 --> 23:20.520]  address a criminal issue which is far outside of their authority and jurisdiction, that
[23:20.520 --> 23:26.520]  in and of itself creates a problem for the city attorney.
[23:26.520 --> 23:32.520]  Now, they could respond on the issue of a tort, but where do they get the authority
[23:32.520 --> 23:37.520]  and the capability to address a criminal issue?
[23:37.520 --> 23:44.520]  Yeah, and it seems like this is a smoke screen to try and direct me back to these tickets,
[23:44.520 --> 23:46.520]  citations.
[23:46.520 --> 23:50.520]  Right, it's trying to put you back in a jurisdiction that has no authority to deal
[23:50.520 --> 23:51.520]  with the issue at hand.
[23:51.520 --> 23:52.520]  Right.
[23:52.520 --> 23:56.520]  A municipal court cannot hear anything about those criminal allegations. You can file
[23:56.520 --> 24:04.520]  them, and they're required to send them to a grand jury, but they won't. But the court
[24:04.520 --> 24:10.520]  certainly has no authority to hear the criminal case or the adjudication thereof because
[24:10.520 --> 24:14.520]  it's outside of their jurisdiction.
[24:14.520 --> 24:23.520]  Okay. Well, that's good news.
[24:23.520 --> 24:28.520]  Yeah, you can use that to your advantage to show that the city is in league with the
[24:28.520 --> 24:32.520]  criminal activities of these individuals in attempting to cover for them.
[24:32.520 --> 24:39.520]  Yeah, I mean, she just wrote these four little sentences here. Even though everything I
[24:39.520 --> 24:44.520]  alleged was criminal activities, of course, if they're criminal activities, they can't
[24:44.520 --> 24:47.520]  be public official duties, right?
[24:47.520 --> 24:54.520]  Exactly. The legislators cannot authorize the commission of a crime by a public
[24:54.520 --> 25:02.520]  official if that act is malum in se and violates any right or property of the people.
[25:02.520 --> 25:07.520]  Can't do it. Now, they can authorize them to violate the malum prohibitum acts of the
[25:07.520 --> 25:13.520]  legislature because the legislature created those, but the legislature did not create
[25:13.520 --> 25:16.520]  the crime of malum in se.
[25:16.520 --> 25:17.520]  Okay.
[25:17.520 --> 25:22.520]  That existed at the common law long before their statutory law came into view.
[25:22.520 --> 25:26.520]  Well, probably other people are going to run into the same kind of smoke screen.
[25:26.520 --> 25:31.520]  Give me some ideas about maybe next steps to help bring this news around their neck
[25:31.520 --> 25:33.520]  here.
[25:33.520 --> 25:36.520]  Ambush a district judge in court on motion today.
[25:36.520 --> 25:39.520]  I'm about to do that probably next week.
[25:39.520 --> 25:43.520]  Okay. Make sure that you tell them you have business with the court, but do not tell
[25:43.520 --> 25:46.520]  them what it is and do not tell them what you're presenting them with until it's in
[25:46.520 --> 25:48.520]  their hands.
[25:48.520 --> 25:49.520]  Okay.
[25:49.520 --> 25:54.520]  Because they'll treat it like you're handing them a box of typhoid if you try to give
[25:54.520 --> 25:57.520]  it to them and tell them beforehand that you're presenting them with criminal
[25:57.520 --> 25:58.520]  complaints.
[25:58.520 --> 26:04.520]  Yeah. I have charges now on the district attorney, so the district judge would be
[26:04.520 --> 26:07.520]  the next one I go see, right?
[26:07.520 --> 26:12.520]  Yeah. And if he refuses to do his duty, then you make complaints against him and
[26:12.520 --> 26:14.520]  then you go direct to the grand jury.
[26:14.520 --> 26:18.520]  Also, now I serve complaints on the mayor, so that's a lot of fun.
[26:18.520 --> 26:21.520]  Well, that's probably where the city attorney got them.
[26:21.520 --> 26:25.520]  Yeah. But she didn't mention the mayor.
[26:25.520 --> 26:27.520]  Okay. Well, excellent.
[26:27.520 --> 26:31.520]  I appreciate your addressing these and it seems like it's getting to be a lot of
[26:31.520 --> 26:32.520]  fun.
[26:32.520 --> 26:34.520]  I'll hang up and let you get to go on.
[26:34.520 --> 26:35.520]  Thanks so much, Eddie and Deborah.
[26:35.520 --> 26:36.520]  All right.
[26:36.520 --> 26:37.520]  Thank you.
[26:37.520 --> 26:38.520]  Okay. Good night now.
[26:38.520 --> 26:39.520]  Good night.
[26:39.520 --> 26:40.520]  Okay.
[26:39.520 --> 26:40.520]  Good night.
[26:40.520 --> 26:42.520]  Folks, our phone lines are opening up.
[26:42.520 --> 26:49.520]  We've got an hour and a half left, so please call in 512-646-1984.
[26:49.520 --> 26:51.520]  Janet from Texas has called back.
[26:51.520 --> 26:54.520]  Janet, what do you got?
[26:54.520 --> 26:56.520]  Actually, this is her husband, Frank.
[26:56.520 --> 26:57.520]  Okay, Frank.
[26:57.520 --> 26:58.520]  Sorry, calling from the same number.
[26:58.520 --> 26:59.520]  What you got, Frank?
[26:59.520 --> 27:00.520]  That's okay.
[27:00.520 --> 27:05.520]  I just kind of wanted to bring it back to what Janet was talking about earlier about
[27:05.520 --> 27:11.520]  removing these people because, you know, I hear the show and, you know, these small
[27:11.520 --> 27:16.520]  victories that we have are wonderful, but the trouble is that for every one person
[27:16.520 --> 27:21.520]  who knows what they're doing and goes through all the hoops and things to show
[27:21.520 --> 27:29.520]  them, well, they get off, but then still, you know, the 99.99% of the other people
[27:29.520 --> 27:31.520]  are still getting screwed.
[27:31.520 --> 27:40.520]  So I really think, you know, we have to get something together where even if we
[27:40.520 --> 27:45.520]  take donations to pay people to sit in the city council meetings looking for
[27:45.520 --> 27:50.520]  violations, and then, you know, when they find the violations, the next city
[27:50.520 --> 27:54.520]  council meeting, people go down there, and I mean a lot of people go down there,
[27:54.520 --> 28:00.520]  and tell these people, you know, you're under a citizen's arrest and, you know,
[28:00.520 --> 28:04.520]  you're no longer able to represent us.
[28:04.520 --> 28:08.520]  It's just, you know, I mean, it's come to the point where I think people are
[28:08.520 --> 28:16.520]  actually going to have to, you know, get off their feet and actually go down like
[28:16.520 --> 28:20.520]  he was saying about, you know, get your tar and feather suit out because, you
[28:20.520 --> 28:26.520]  know, it's gone beyond the point where people are, you know, I mean, you can see
[28:26.520 --> 28:30.520]  how the city attorney is protecting this person, this person is protecting this
[28:30.520 --> 28:35.520]  person, everybody is covering everybody else's butt, and until the people get
[28:35.520 --> 28:40.520]  up and actually do something and come down and pull these officials off their
[28:40.520 --> 28:46.520]  daisies and, you know, kick them in the butt out into the street, I don't think
[28:46.520 --> 28:49.520]  anything is really going to change.
[28:49.520 --> 28:56.520]  Well, that would be true, and I've got some information that I would like to
[28:56.520 --> 28:58.520]  give out to folks on this issue.
[28:58.520 --> 29:03.520]  It has turned out that one of our regular listeners and a good friend of mine at
[29:03.520 --> 29:07.520]  this point is a gentleman by the name of Larry Nelson.
[29:07.520 --> 29:14.520]  Now, Larry has worked himself silly trying to get people lined up at the
[29:14.520 --> 29:20.520]  legislature for us to appear in Austin and address them in full assembly.
[29:20.520 --> 29:24.520]  He has finally worked his way to the top of the heap, so to speak, and he has
[29:24.520 --> 29:31.520]  now been in touch with the personal assistant to the Speaker of the House,
[29:31.520 --> 29:33.520]  which is Representative Charlie Guerin.
[29:33.520 --> 29:37.520]  The lady in question is Laura Grable.
[29:37.520 --> 29:41.520]  If y'all will hang on, I will have more to give out on that, such as contact
[29:41.520 --> 29:48.520]  information and a suggestion on how to handle this upcoming idea in detail.
[29:48.520 --> 29:50.520]  So, please, y'all hang on for just a minute.
[29:50.520 --> 29:53.520]  This is Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[29:53.520 --> 30:00.520]  We will be right back.
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[31:22.520 --> 31:27.520]  All right, folks, we are back on Little Ball Radio.
[31:27.520 --> 31:28.520]  Okay.
[31:28.520 --> 31:33.520]  Now, as I was saying, we have contact information for the personal assistance
[31:33.520 --> 31:39.520]  to the Speaker of the House for here in Texas, Representative Charlie Garen.
[31:39.520 --> 31:42.520]  His assistant's name is Laura Grable.
[31:42.520 --> 31:48.520]  The phone number to the office is 512-463-0610,
[31:48.520 --> 32:02.520]  and her email address is laura.grable, G-r-a-b-l-e, at house.state.tx.us.
[32:02.520 --> 32:09.520]  What I would like to suggest is that we start doing a mass call and mail-in
[32:09.520 --> 32:18.520]  demanding that they make it accessible to us, for us to appear before the
[32:18.520 --> 32:24.520]  legislature as we have requested to do, as the people and the public for
[32:24.520 --> 32:28.520]  directly addressing these issues with our legislators.
[32:28.520 --> 32:32.520]  No more hiding behind the walls of the Capitol buildings.
[32:32.520 --> 32:37.520]  The people need access to their representatives, not just in their
[32:37.520 --> 32:43.520]  locations but within the walls in Austin where they are assembled so that
[32:43.520 --> 32:48.520]  the entire voice of the people can have its full impact, not just on one or
[32:48.520 --> 32:52.520]  two here or there who will take it back to Austin and represent it as they
[32:52.520 --> 32:56.520]  see it rather than how their people see it.
[32:56.520 --> 32:59.520]  Yeah, I mean, you know, something like that is wonderful.
[32:59.520 --> 33:04.520]  My only thing about that is I guess I just have been in this a long time,
[33:04.520 --> 33:08.520]  and I'm just getting really tired of having to ask permission of my
[33:08.520 --> 33:12.520]  servants for them to listen to me, you know.
[33:12.520 --> 33:13.520]  Well, I agree.
[33:13.520 --> 33:18.520]  It just gets very, very frustrating, you know.
[33:18.520 --> 33:22.520]  Right, and we have in no way approached this as asking.
[33:22.520 --> 33:29.520]  Larry has done a bang-up job of being absolutely fearless in telling them,
[33:29.520 --> 33:31.520]  you work for us.
[33:31.520 --> 33:33.520]  We demand that this be done.
[33:33.520 --> 33:35.520]  And they're like, well, it's never been done.
[33:35.520 --> 33:36.520]  We don't know that we can do that.
[33:36.520 --> 33:37.520]  Wait, wait, wait.
[33:37.520 --> 33:38.520]  You work for us.
[33:38.520 --> 33:40.520]  We say you can do it.
[33:40.520 --> 33:41.520]  You can do it.
[33:41.520 --> 33:43.520]  And we're saying we want it done.
[33:43.520 --> 33:49.520]  And then I have another possible solution, which is instead of putting
[33:49.520 --> 33:53.520]  these people up on daisies and stuff when we design courthouses and city
[33:53.520 --> 33:58.520]  council chambers, I think we should put them down in holes so that they are
[33:58.520 --> 34:02.520]  lower than the people instead of higher than the people.
[34:02.520 --> 34:05.520]  And maybe they'll start getting the idea that they're the servants
[34:05.520 --> 34:08.520]  and not the masters.
[34:08.520 --> 34:10.520]  Well, I would go along with that.
[34:10.520 --> 34:17.520]  But the one way I would support it better is to have the bailiff properly
[34:17.520 --> 34:19.520]  educated on what their duty is.
[34:19.520 --> 34:23.520]  Their duty is not to be a gopher for the judge.
[34:23.520 --> 34:28.520]  Their duty is to maintain the peace in the court just as it would be if they
[34:28.520 --> 34:30.520]  were patrolling the streets.
[34:30.520 --> 34:35.520]  Their duty is to see that those that have to appear before the court maintain
[34:35.520 --> 34:41.520]  proper order and that the court itself maintains proper order and obedience
[34:41.520 --> 34:42.520]  to law.
[34:42.520 --> 34:45.520]  That includes the judge.
[34:45.520 --> 34:50.520]  And if I got elected sheriff, there would be a lot of surprises in the
[34:50.520 --> 34:54.520]  county and district courts around here because the first thing that I would
[34:54.520 --> 34:57.520]  educate my deputies on is what the law is.
[34:57.520 --> 35:01.520]  And when that judge violates it and you fail to yank them off the bench and
[35:01.520 --> 35:06.520]  take them to jail, you will lose your job.
[35:06.520 --> 35:08.520]  Well, you know, that's the thing.
[35:08.520 --> 35:13.520]  We need to start at the base, you know, start with the cities and the counties.
[35:13.520 --> 35:20.520]  And then maybe the rest will fall into line because if we don't, if we can't
[35:20.520 --> 35:26.520]  start small and start in our own little arena, you know, and I think if, you
[35:26.520 --> 35:32.520]  know, one or two cities actually people took back their cities, other people
[35:32.520 --> 35:33.520]  would see that it's possible.
[35:33.520 --> 35:40.520]  And I think we'd have, well, we'd either have a landslide of cities, people
[35:40.520 --> 35:45.520]  taking back their cities, or we'd have a whole lot of city councils and other
[35:45.520 --> 35:52.520]  people who would no longer have open meetings and would do everything on video
[35:52.520 --> 35:55.520]  screens with armed guards at the door.
[35:55.520 --> 35:56.520]  Yeah.
[35:56.520 --> 35:59.520]  Well, New Hampshire had a really great idea.
[35:59.520 --> 36:04.520]  And their idea was to get as many people from outside of New Hampshire to
[36:04.520 --> 36:05.520]  immigrate.
[36:05.520 --> 36:10.520]  Now, when they say as many people, they were specific in the kinds they
[36:10.520 --> 36:11.520]  wanted.
[36:11.520 --> 36:17.520]  They wanted as many people as possible that were true constitutional patriots
[36:17.520 --> 36:25.520]  to immigrate to New Hampshire and to overload Keene County with patriotic
[36:25.520 --> 36:31.520]  folk and have them take up residence there so that they could then affect the
[36:31.520 --> 36:37.520]  policy of the county and the town in order to regain their constitutional
[36:37.520 --> 36:38.520]  liberties.
[36:38.520 --> 36:42.520]  I would propose we could do the same thing here within Texas.
[36:42.520 --> 36:50.520]  If we could get everybody that supports the Constitution within some place
[36:50.520 --> 36:57.520]  like Travis County to go there and at least set up homes, you know, and live
[36:57.520 --> 37:02.520]  there and affect what is done there to such a degree that it cannot be ignored,
[37:02.520 --> 37:09.520]  then when we are in control of the seat of government, we can control what the
[37:09.520 --> 37:14.520]  rest of it is going on like because we've got the people in place to ensure
[37:14.520 --> 37:17.520]  that the Constitution is followed.
[37:17.520 --> 37:18.520]  Yeah.
[37:18.520 --> 37:24.520]  I mean, like I say, we, you know, I mean, a lot of people have these grandiose
[37:24.520 --> 37:28.520]  ideas that we're going to take the federal government back and that, you
[37:28.520 --> 37:32.520]  know, the states are going to nullify, which, you know, would be wonderful if
[37:32.520 --> 37:33.520]  it happens.
[37:33.520 --> 37:40.520]  But if we don't start local, it's nothing that we're going to change.
[37:40.520 --> 37:44.520]  So anyway, that was pretty much all I wanted to say.
[37:44.520 --> 37:49.520]  And thank you.
[37:49.520 --> 37:50.520]  Okay.
[37:50.520 --> 37:51.520]  Very good.
[37:51.520 --> 37:56.520]  We're going now to Jesse in Texas.
[37:56.520 --> 37:57.520]  Jesse, thanks for calling in.
[37:57.520 --> 38:02.520]  What's on your mind tonight?
[38:02.520 --> 38:06.520]  Jesse there.
[38:06.520 --> 38:08.520]  Caller?
[38:08.520 --> 38:09.520]  Okay.
[38:09.520 --> 38:13.520]  Caller dropped off the line.
[38:13.520 --> 38:14.520]  Okay.
[38:14.520 --> 38:15.520]  Very good.
[38:15.520 --> 38:16.520]  All right.
[38:16.520 --> 38:18.520]  Callers, we've got open phone lines right now.
[38:18.520 --> 38:26.520]  If you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[38:26.520 --> 38:31.520]  And, Eddie, while we're waiting for callers to call in, I wanted to see what
[38:31.520 --> 38:36.520]  you think about this, and maybe some listeners can comment on this as well.
[38:36.520 --> 38:44.520]  Apparently today the chief engineer on the Deepwater Horizon well testified
[38:44.520 --> 38:50.520]  to a federal government panel that the warning systems on the rig had been
[38:50.520 --> 38:57.520]  shut off and disabled the night before the big explosion.
[38:57.520 --> 39:03.520]  This is testimony under oath to a federal panel.
[39:03.520 --> 39:09.520]  And so I wanted to read a little bit about this from this article here.
[39:09.520 --> 39:12.520]  I got this off of Infowars.
[39:12.520 --> 39:19.520]  It says long before an eruption of gas turned the Deepwater Horizon oil rig
[39:19.520 --> 39:24.520]  into a fireball, an alarm system designed to alert the crew and prevent
[39:24.520 --> 39:28.520]  combustible gases from reaching potential sources of ignition had been
[39:28.520 --> 39:30.520]  deliberately disabled.
[39:30.520 --> 39:35.520]  The former chief electronics technician on the rig testified Friday.
[39:35.520 --> 39:36.520]  That's today.
[39:36.520 --> 39:40.520]  Michael Williams said he understood that the rig had been operating with the
[39:40.520 --> 39:46.520]  system in, quote, inhibited mode for a year to prevent false alarms from
[39:46.520 --> 39:48.520]  disturbing the crew.
[39:48.520 --> 39:52.520]  Williams said the explanation he got was that the leadership of the rig did
[39:52.520 --> 39:57.520]  not want crew members needlessly awakened in the middle of the night.
[39:57.520 --> 40:02.520]  The ex-marine who survived the April 20th conflagration by jumping from the
[40:02.520 --> 40:07.520]  burning rig was addressing a federal panel probing the disaster.
[40:07.520 --> 40:12.520]  If the safety system was disabled, it would not have been a unique event.
[40:12.520 --> 40:15.520]  Records of federal enforcement actions reviewed by the Washington Post show
[40:15.520 --> 40:20.520]  that in case after case, rig operators paid fines for allegedly bypassing
[40:20.520 --> 40:25.520]  safety systems that could impede routine operations.
[40:25.520 --> 40:30.520]  So what do you think about that, Eddie?
[40:30.520 --> 40:33.520]  I think it's typical.
[40:33.520 --> 40:39.520]  In fact, what I also think is that the fines are set low enough that they
[40:39.520 --> 40:40.520]  don't care.
[40:40.520 --> 40:44.520]  It's just like what they would get when they, you know, dump pollutants into
[40:44.520 --> 40:48.520]  streams and all this other stuff or hazardous waste.
[40:48.520 --> 40:52.520]  It costs them millions of dollars to properly dispose of it, but the fine that
[40:52.520 --> 40:57.520]  they have to pay for dumping it in somebody's backyard is $25,000.
[40:57.520 --> 40:58.520]  I make $15 million.
[40:58.520 --> 41:01.520]  I pay $25,000 in fines.
[41:01.520 --> 41:04.520]  Yeah, let's get with it.
[41:04.520 --> 41:05.520]  Right.
[41:05.520 --> 41:08.520]  It's kind of like they just get to pay to break the law because the fines are
[41:08.520 --> 41:09.520]  so low.
[41:09.520 --> 41:10.520]  It's just a payoff.
[41:10.520 --> 41:11.520]  Exactly.
[41:11.520 --> 41:13.520]  It's like payola.
[41:13.520 --> 41:18.520]  Personally, the way I think it should operate is that any time a corporation
[41:18.520 --> 41:25.520]  violates the law, then any money profited by that corporation for the
[41:25.520 --> 41:34.520]  term in which that law was in violation is forfeit 100% in full.
[41:34.520 --> 41:36.520]  No more penny any fines.
[41:36.520 --> 41:39.520]  You're going to violate the law, then you're not going to profit from it in
[41:39.520 --> 41:41.520]  any way, shape, or form.
[41:41.520 --> 41:45.520]  You will pay the full amount of any monies collected during that entire
[41:45.520 --> 41:48.520]  period of time if you're convicted, period.
[41:48.520 --> 41:53.520]  And not only that, if people are injured or killed as a result, then the
[41:53.520 --> 41:57.520]  perps need to go to prison for murder.
[41:57.520 --> 41:58.520]  Oh, yeah.
[41:58.520 --> 41:59.520]  No doubt about it.
[41:59.520 --> 42:00.520]  I mean, this is ridiculous.
[42:00.520 --> 42:05.520]  Lives were lost that day, and many more lives are going to be lost.
[42:05.520 --> 42:12.520]  There's another article concerning the dispersants and how all these people
[42:12.520 --> 42:15.520]  are hemorrhaging, internal hemorrhaging.
[42:15.520 --> 42:21.520]  And it's suspected Mark Kaufman of the EPA, called the EPA whistleblower
[42:21.520 --> 42:30.520]  now, he testified, or not testified, he said on Democracy Now that millions
[42:30.520 --> 42:37.520]  of people could die from this, from the dispersants.
[42:37.520 --> 42:40.520]  Unbelievable situation here.
[42:40.520 --> 42:43.520]  Well, what do they expect when they dump hazardous chemicals into the
[42:43.520 --> 42:44.520]  world water supply?
[42:44.520 --> 42:48.520]  I mean, and they did that strictly to protect profits.
[42:48.520 --> 42:52.520]  Yeah, and then you also have to worry about the fact that for how many
[42:52.520 --> 42:56.520]  generations now is all the seafood in the Gulf of Mexico going to be
[42:56.520 --> 43:04.520]  poisoned and genetically effective upon the people at the lowest DNA levels
[43:04.520 --> 43:06.520]  because of those chemicals.
[43:06.520 --> 43:09.520]  You'll spend years ingesting these foods just to die a horrible death at
[43:09.520 --> 43:16.520]  age 40 because of all the ways in which these things will affect you.
[43:16.520 --> 43:23.520]  And then your children will inherit that all the way down the line.
[43:23.520 --> 43:24.520]  Absolutely.
[43:24.520 --> 43:29.520]  It's genocide on a global scale when you look at it in that context.
[43:29.520 --> 43:34.520]  It's about protecting their profit at human expense.
[43:34.520 --> 43:38.520]  No ifs, no ands, no buts.
[43:38.520 --> 43:39.520]  Absolutely.
[43:39.520 --> 43:41.520]  Okay, folks, we've got some callers on the line.
[43:41.520 --> 43:43.520]  Carl from Texas.
[43:43.520 --> 43:45.520]  Jesse, I'm going to try to see if Jesse's there.
[43:45.520 --> 44:00.520]  Folks, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we will be right back.
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[45:14.520 --> 45:23.520]  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
[45:23.520 --> 45:29.520]  As always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[45:29.520 --> 45:34.520]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[45:34.520 --> 45:36.520]  I ain't asking for much.
[45:36.520 --> 45:40.520]  I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[45:40.520 --> 45:52.520]  I'm just here makin' my livin' pushin' buttons I give my message out to anyone in shoutin' distance
[45:52.520 --> 45:54.520]  Both her bravery and her cancer days
[45:54.520 --> 45:58.520]  Alright folks, we are back. We're taking your calls. We have Carl from Texas.
[45:58.520 --> 46:02.520]  Carl, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[46:02.520 --> 46:08.520]  Well, I had a traffic question, but hearing y'all talkin' about the Core X that they used in the Gulf
[46:08.520 --> 46:17.520]  Listen to Alex, they seem that they've substantiated that they've used 8.5 million gallons of that Core X at 9,500
[46:17.520 --> 46:26.520]  And to wrap your mind around that, a gasoline tanker, an 18-wheeler, carries 8,500 gallons
[46:26.520 --> 46:36.520]  So that is the equivalent of 1,000 gasoline tankers that they've dumped in the Gulf
[46:36.520 --> 46:49.520]  What is it? The supertankers carry approximately 3 million gallons of oil when they're loaded
[46:49.520 --> 46:55.520]  So it's the equivalent of almost three full supertankers
[46:55.520 --> 46:58.520]  Incredible
[46:58.520 --> 47:06.520]  I had a expired tags and inspection on a bike that got pulled over
[47:06.520 --> 47:16.520]  Interesting enough, down on the University of Texas on Dean Street, I can't remember his name
[47:16.520 --> 47:21.520]  But that's not even part of the, I don't think it's part of the Austin unless they sign it back over
[47:21.520 --> 47:30.520]  Anyway, it appeared on the ticket, and I did not plead, and they tried to make me plead, and I wouldn't plead
[47:30.520 --> 47:35.520]  And I took the traffic seminar, and I have all the stuff
[47:35.520 --> 47:41.520]  And so I filed Randy's motion, along with a couple other motions of my own
[47:41.520 --> 47:47.520]  And I got a response from them saying that I had a warrant warning out for me
[47:47.520 --> 47:53.520]  And I had entered those tickets into the docket, got them court stamped
[47:53.520 --> 48:02.520]  And so I called them back, and they want me to come down in a appearance docket
[48:02.520 --> 48:07.520]  And the last time I spoke to them, I said I wanted to have a pretrial or a motion hearing
[48:07.520 --> 48:10.520]  And I believe, Eddie, you call it something different, don't you?
[48:10.520 --> 48:13.520]  An examining trial
[48:13.520 --> 48:19.520]  And I told them I wanted to have a motion hearing or that, and then she basically said,
[48:19.520 --> 48:23.520]  Yeah, they would schedule me for this, and then I get this appearance docket
[48:23.520 --> 48:27.520]  Saying they want me to come down and try to resolve this
[48:27.520 --> 48:32.520]  We all know what that is, try to get me to pay, but I'm not going to do that
[48:32.520 --> 48:35.520]  I was just wondering, would I have more ammunition,
[48:35.520 --> 48:40.520]  will somebody else step out and make another mistake if I do go to this appearance docket
[48:40.520 --> 48:43.520]  Or should I just cancel it for trial?
[48:43.520 --> 48:48.520]  Just make sure that you reserve your appearance as special under threat and duress
[48:48.520 --> 48:52.520]  So as not to give the court general jurisdiction over you
[48:52.520 --> 49:00.520]  Now, there is the fact that you do need to state that you are making a special appearance, okay?
[49:00.520 --> 49:03.520]  Because if you don't do that, the appearance is general
[49:03.520 --> 49:08.520]  And you waive the requirement of impersonal jurisdiction if you take a general appearance
[49:08.520 --> 49:11.520]  That is factual, okay?
[49:11.520 --> 49:12.520]  Okay
[49:12.520 --> 49:18.520]  So make sure that you reserve this as a special appearance under threat and duress, because it is
[49:18.520 --> 49:22.520]  I want to reserve the right for the appearance?
[49:22.520 --> 49:26.520]  My appearance here is special under threat and duress
[49:26.520 --> 49:31.520]  It is not to be considered a general appearance
[49:31.520 --> 49:38.520]  They say on here, I can waive the appearance, do I want to do that or do I want to show up?
[49:38.520 --> 49:42.520]  Well, what do you have to do to waive the appearance?
[49:42.520 --> 49:45.520]  What are you giving up by waiving the appearance?
[49:45.520 --> 49:52.520]  What are the criteria that you must meet before you can waive the appearance?
[49:52.520 --> 49:59.520]  Or what are they going to determine without you if you waive the appearance?
[49:59.520 --> 50:05.520]  The appearance, basically it says one paragraph, it says this is generally the last opportunity
[50:05.520 --> 50:08.520]  for a non-trial resolution of your case
[50:08.520 --> 50:13.520]  Prosecutors will not dismiss cases at the appearance docket
[50:13.520 --> 50:19.520]  So, you know, then they say that you need to let us know four or five days ahead of time
[50:19.520 --> 50:24.520]  And I'll do that, you know, with a course down document
[50:24.520 --> 50:30.520]  But I was just wondering if I give them anything by appearing on that
[50:30.520 --> 50:34.520]  As long as you reserve what I just told you, no, you don't
[50:34.520 --> 50:39.520]  But it's going to be where they try to get you to cut the deal
[50:39.520 --> 50:40.520]  Right
[50:40.520 --> 50:45.520]  Or to enter a plea if you won't cut the deal
[50:45.520 --> 50:47.520]  Okay
[50:47.520 --> 50:52.520]  But it is by no means going to be an examining trial
[50:52.520 --> 50:56.520]  And then they're going to want to try to set this for a court date
[50:56.520 --> 50:58.520]  And I'm going to want to have an examining trial
[50:58.520 --> 51:05.520]  So I need to file, I'm just going to go down there and file a request for an examining trial, correct?
[51:05.520 --> 51:13.520]  Yeah, you file a petition or motion, however you want to do it, for everything in writing, everything
[51:13.520 --> 51:19.520]  One of the things I need to let the folks with the seminar material know is that
[51:19.520 --> 51:22.520]  I have got a massive update about to come out
[51:22.520 --> 51:29.520]  I am going to hand over everything I've got on research, resources, you name it
[51:29.520 --> 51:33.520]  And it is going to be a humongous set of files
[51:33.520 --> 51:41.520]  They will be broken up into chunks, but they will fill up an 8.5 gigabyte DVD easily
[51:41.520 --> 51:47.520]  And in this you're going to have a lot of new court documents to file
[51:47.520 --> 51:52.520]  But most especially you need to pay attention to the ones that deal with pre-trial motions
[51:52.520 --> 51:55.520]  That are in the folder as I've got them organized on here
[51:55.520 --> 51:58.520]  Because you need a motion for a fair and impartial trial
[51:58.520 --> 52:03.520]  You need a motion challenging subject matter jurisdiction on several different points
[52:03.520 --> 52:06.520]  And there's a separate motion in here for each of those points
[52:06.520 --> 52:11.520]  Lack of an information and indictment, lack of a valid complaint, so on and so forth
[52:11.520 --> 52:15.520]  There's even a motion for findings of facts and conclusions of law
[52:15.520 --> 52:20.520]  When the court denies all your motions out of hand
[52:20.520 --> 52:25.520]  We're basically going to set them up to shoot themselves in the foot
[52:25.520 --> 52:30.520]  And then jerk back so hard that they shoot themselves under the chin at the same time
[52:30.520 --> 52:32.520]  That's what we want
[52:32.520 --> 52:40.520]  So in what you're going to, be prepared for it to not do anything beneficial for you at all
[52:40.520 --> 52:45.520]  In fact, be prepared for it to be an ambush to try to get you to take a deal
[52:45.520 --> 52:50.520]  But do not forget to reserve your right of special appearance
[52:50.520 --> 52:57.520]  Okay, when you do not file, you do not give them subject matter jurisdiction
[52:57.520 --> 53:00.520]  I'm sorry, not file, but when you do not plead
[53:00.520 --> 53:05.520]  You do not give them subject matter jurisdiction in that effort too, right?
[53:05.520 --> 53:09.520]  You're misunderstanding the point of subject matter jurisdiction
[53:09.520 --> 53:14.520]  Whether or not you enter a plea does not convey subject matter jurisdiction
[53:14.520 --> 53:18.520]  Either the court has it by law or it doesn't
[53:18.520 --> 53:22.520]  There is no in-between and there is no granting of it
[53:22.520 --> 53:25.520]  It either is there or it is not
[53:25.520 --> 53:29.520]  Impersonal, however, is different
[53:29.520 --> 53:36.520]  Impersonal can be withheld by special appearance rather than general appearance
[53:36.520 --> 53:43.520]  In personum jurisdiction, they can't move forward until they can prove subject matter jurisdiction
[53:43.520 --> 53:51.520]  And that the subject matter is something under which the personum falls
[53:51.520 --> 53:53.520]  Which is our whole argument to begin with
[53:53.520 --> 54:02.520]  A commercial statute does not have any force and effect upon the people who are not acting in a commercial capacity
[54:02.520 --> 54:10.520]  That would mean the statute and the law in question does not convey in personum jurisdiction to the court
[54:10.520 --> 54:16.520]  Because the person to whom the law applies is not you
[54:16.520 --> 54:25.520]  And without in personum, they cannot have subject matter because they have to go together
[54:25.520 --> 54:34.520]  Okay, and they had already responded to one of the motions I filed for the information
[54:34.520 --> 54:37.520]  And they created a complaint
[54:37.520 --> 54:40.520]  And they sent a copy, if I can know they would
[54:40.520 --> 54:45.520]  But then they created a complaint signed by somebody that's been a saint of the court
[54:45.520 --> 54:48.520]  Which is just probably a clerk
[54:48.520 --> 54:55.520]  And so they've already started to throw into polluting their case
[54:55.520 --> 54:58.520]  Okay, but here's the thing
[54:58.520 --> 55:01.520]  When was the complaint created by the clerk?
[55:01.520 --> 55:09.520]  Before or after you were summoned to appear in court?
[55:09.520 --> 55:14.520]  As far as summoned to appear in court, it was created before
[55:14.520 --> 55:18.520]  The complaint was created prior to the summons to appear in court?
[55:18.520 --> 55:20.520]  Yes
[55:20.520 --> 55:28.520]  Okay, was the complaint created prior to any communications on the court's behalf to you?
[55:28.520 --> 55:31.520]  Yes
[55:31.520 --> 55:33.520]  Okay, then that's fine
[55:33.520 --> 55:38.520]  Well, the ticket itself was a complaint in their mind
[55:38.520 --> 55:42.520]  And it had a date to appear, you know
[55:42.520 --> 55:44.520]  No, the ticket is not a complaint
[55:44.520 --> 55:50.520]  It does not even come close to meeting the statutory requirements of a complaint at all
[55:50.520 --> 55:58.520]  45.18 Code of Criminal Procedure tells you what the requisites of a complaint are in a municipal or justice court
[55:58.520 --> 56:01.520]  And the ticket does not foot the bill
[56:01.520 --> 56:09.520]  Okay, so your point was that if the summons happened after the complaint, what does that mean?
[56:09.520 --> 56:18.520]  That means the court moved ahead of its own volition, which means you have now got evidence that the court intends to prosecute you of its own accord
[56:18.520 --> 56:26.520]  Not upon any valid complaint, which takes away any appearance of fairness and impartiality
[56:26.520 --> 56:35.520]  And shows that the court is acting biased toward the prosecution by acting on their behalf without jurisdiction
[56:35.520 --> 56:37.520]  Okay
[56:37.520 --> 56:40.520]  Now, here's the other problem they face
[56:40.520 --> 56:53.520]  In order to get you into court for anything other than an examining trial, there has to be an information signed by the attorney for the state in the file with the complaint
[56:53.520 --> 57:01.520]  Otherwise, the court has no jurisdiction to hear anything other than an examining trial issue
[57:01.520 --> 57:12.520]  Okay, because they can't proceed to any other type of action without that information being filed
[57:12.520 --> 57:15.520]  And here's the issue with the city attorney
[57:15.520 --> 57:19.520]  If this is a municipal court, the law is very clear
[57:19.520 --> 57:25.520]  And information can only be signed by a county or district attorney
[57:25.520 --> 57:29.520]  And no one else
[57:29.520 --> 57:36.520]  Which is exactly why there's never an information filed in a municipal court where the city attorney is the prosecutor
[57:36.520 --> 57:40.520]  Because they have no authority to sign the document
[57:40.520 --> 57:50.520]  But the problem is, Texas Constitution, Article 5, Section 12B, says that only an indictment or information gives jurisdiction to the court
[57:50.520 --> 58:03.520]  And 2.05 Code of Criminal Procedure says in any county that has one or more criminal district courts, an information must be filed in all misdemeanor cases
[58:03.520 --> 58:05.520]  Thank you very much
[58:05.520 --> 58:07.520]  You're very welcome
[58:07.520 --> 58:10.520]  All right, thank you, Carl
[58:10.520 --> 58:14.520]  Okay, when we get back on the other side, we're going to go to Christian in LaPorte, Texas
[58:14.520 --> 58:18.520]  He's probably calling with an update on what's going on in Texas City
[58:18.520 --> 58:20.520]  After that, we have open phone lines
[58:20.520 --> 58:27.520]  So, folks, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984
[58:27.520 --> 58:55.520]  We'll be back on the other side after the top of the hour news
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[59:06.520 --> 59:09.520]  And neither is finding like-minded people to share it with
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[59:20.520 --> 59:24.520]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps
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[59:27.520 --> 59:28.520]  Go check it out for yourself
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[59:32.520 --> 59:36.520]  By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there
[59:36.520 --> 59:44.520]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility just behind the bookstore
[59:44.520 --> 59:47.520]  It does exist, but when are they open?
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[59:59.520 --> 01:00:04.520]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Network
[01:00:04.520 --> 01:00:09.520]  U.S. Special Forces have begun venturing out with Pakistani troops on Pakistani territory
[01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:12.520]  that up to now has been off limits to U.S. ground troops
[01:00:12.520 --> 01:00:21.520]  The expansion of U.S. cooperation is significant given Pakistan's deep aversion to foreign military forces on its soil
[01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:29.520]  Deputy U.K. Prime Minister Nick Clegg was forced to backtrack after pronouncing the invasion of Iraq illegal in the House of Commons
[01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:38.520]  Clegg insisted he was speaking in a personal capacity after a leading international lawyer warned the statement by a government minister in such a formal setting
[01:00:38.520 --> 01:00:44.520]  could increase the chances of charges against Britain in international courts
[01:00:44.520 --> 01:00:49.520]  The Obama administration announced Wednesday a new round of sanctions against North Korea
[01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:52.520]  to punish, quote, its illicit and provocative policies
[01:00:52.520 --> 01:00:57.520]  Analysts say the bans are nothing new and for the benefit of South Korea
[01:00:57.520 --> 01:01:06.520]  The International Court of Justice said Thursday Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence from Serbia in February 2008
[01:01:06.520 --> 01:01:09.520]  did not violate international law
[01:01:09.520 --> 01:01:14.520]  The groundbreaking ruling could have far-reaching implications for separatist movements around the world
[01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:18.520]  as well as for Belgrade's stalled EU membership talks
[01:01:18.520 --> 01:01:25.520]  The long-awaited ruling, which the court took up after a complaint to the UN from Serbia, is now likely to lead to more countries
[01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:30.520]  recognizing Kosovo and move Pristina closer to entry into the UN
[01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:38.520]  The court's president, Hisashi Awada, said international law contains, quote, no prohibition on declarations of independence
[01:01:38.520 --> 01:01:47.520]  Serbia has continued to demand Kosovo be returned, arguing it has been the cradle of their civilization and national identity since 1389
[01:01:47.520 --> 01:01:54.520]  when a Christian army led by Serbian Prince Lazar lost an epic battle to invading Ottoman forces
[01:01:54.520 --> 01:02:01.520]  The ruling is expected to bolster demands for independence by half a dozen other territories around the world
[01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:08.520]  The nominee for director of national intelligence has warned North Korea's sinking of a South Korean warship
[01:02:08.520 --> 01:02:11.520]  May Harald, quote, a dangerous new period
[01:02:11.520 --> 01:02:20.520]  James Clapper told a Senate hearing Tuesday Pyongyang might seek to advance its internal and external political goals through direct attacks
[01:02:20.520 --> 01:02:28.520]  Earlier, the US and South Korea said they would hold large-scale joint military exercises next weekend in a show of force
[01:02:28.520 --> 01:02:33.520]  intended to send a clear message to North Korea that its aggressive behavior must stop
[01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:40.520]  Testifying to the Senate's Intelligence Committee, Clapper brushed aside suggestions he would be beholden to the Pentagon
[01:02:40.520 --> 01:02:48.520]  and reluctant to share information about intelligence activities with Congress, saying he had been out of uniform for 15 years
[01:02:48.520 --> 01:03:11.520]  The DNI was created by Congress in 2004 in response to 9-11
[01:03:19.520 --> 01:03:23.520]  Yeah, a story for everyone to hear
[01:03:23.520 --> 01:03:26.520]  It's like I was not going to give in to the fear
[01:03:28.520 --> 01:03:30.520]  Yeah, a story
[01:03:32.520 --> 01:03:36.520]  It's like I was not going to give in to the fear
[01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:41.520]  I will lie and lie my father down
[01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:44.520]  I will tell you the truth
[01:03:44.520 --> 01:03:48.520]  I will lie and lie my father down
[01:03:48.520 --> 01:03:52.520]  As I lay with this faith and with God
[01:03:52.520 --> 01:03:55.520]  I will aid my concern
[01:03:55.520 --> 01:03:58.520]  I will lie and lie my father down
[01:03:58.520 --> 01:04:03.520]  Yeah, I will lie and lie my father down
[01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:06.520]  I will fill out his face
[01:04:06.520 --> 01:04:10.520]  I will lie and lie my father down
[01:04:10.520 --> 01:04:15.520]  As I lie with this faith and with God
[01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:21.520]  Okay, folks, we are back. We have one more hour here on the rule of law
[01:04:21.520 --> 01:04:28.520]  And we have Christian from Laporte on the line. Just one moment. Christian, Eddie, you had something you wanted to say
[01:04:28.520 --> 01:04:32.520]  Ah, well, just a little entertainment bit for folks
[01:04:32.520 --> 01:04:36.520]  It's kind of just a humorous analogy here that
[01:04:36.520 --> 01:04:42.520]  Nancy Pelosi comes down to Texas and she has an argument with a Texan when they both are walking the beach
[01:04:42.520 --> 01:04:45.520]  And they come across this lamp that they find buried in the sand
[01:04:45.520 --> 01:04:48.520]  Well, both of them grab it up and they're sitting there fighting over it
[01:04:48.520 --> 01:04:52.520]  And a genie appears out of the lamp
[01:04:52.520 --> 01:04:56.520]  And since they're both arguing that the lamp roughly belongs to them
[01:04:56.520 --> 01:05:03.520]  The genie says, well, I guess the only thing I can do is to grant three wishes to each of you
[01:05:03.520 --> 01:05:08.520]  And he looks at Nancy Pelosi and says, well, you go first
[01:05:08.520 --> 01:05:16.520]  And Nancy looks at him and says, well, I want to be rich and wealthy and the most powerful woman in the world
[01:05:16.520 --> 01:05:18.520]  And the genie says, done
[01:05:18.520 --> 01:05:20.520]  He goes, what's your second wish?
[01:05:20.520 --> 01:05:28.520]  Nancy Pelosi says, well, I want there to be a wall around Washington, D.C., a hundred miles high
[01:05:28.520 --> 01:05:36.520]  So that none of the rabble in America can get into Washington, D.C. and interrupt the business we conduct there and the way we want to do things
[01:05:36.520 --> 01:05:39.520]  The genie looks at her and says, done
[01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:41.520]  What's your last wish?
[01:05:41.520 --> 01:05:45.520]  She goes, I want to be in Washington, D.C.
[01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:50.520]  And so the genie says, done again and Pelosi disappears
[01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:56.520]  The genie turns, looks at the Texans and says, all right, what's your first wish?
[01:05:56.520 --> 01:06:08.520]  Texan looks at him and says, I want you to fill that hundred mile high wall with water
[01:06:08.520 --> 01:06:12.520]  What other wish do we need after that, folks?
[01:06:12.520 --> 01:06:14.520]  Oh, my goodness
[01:06:14.520 --> 01:06:16.520]  I guess the genie was on the side of the people in that case
[01:06:16.520 --> 01:06:20.520]  That's why he let the, that's why he did Pelosi first
[01:06:20.520 --> 01:06:22.520]  Yeah, works for me
[01:06:22.520 --> 01:06:23.520]  That's pretty good
[01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:26.520]  Okay, we got Christian Laporte
[01:06:26.520 --> 01:06:28.520]  Okay, Christian, what do you got for us tonight?
[01:06:28.520 --> 01:06:34.520]  Okay, I had missed that petition that Eddie put out a while ago
[01:06:34.520 --> 01:06:44.520]  The website that he's going to kind of get everybody together on, on meeting
[01:06:44.520 --> 01:06:54.520]  So it's not a website, it's the contact information for the State Representative's personal assistant
[01:06:54.520 --> 01:06:56.520]  Her name is Laura Grable
[01:06:56.520 --> 01:07:05.520]  Her phone number at Representative Charlie Guerin's office is 512-463-0610
[01:07:05.520 --> 01:07:19.520]  And her email address is laura.grable.state.tx.us
[01:07:19.520 --> 01:07:25.520]  And what I would like to see us do, folks, is to burn up the email and the telephone line
[01:07:25.520 --> 01:07:31.520]  Demanding that they schedule a place and time in Austin for us to appear
[01:07:31.520 --> 01:07:37.520]  The rule of law radio folks and all of the Texas folks that want to attend and be present for this
[01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:47.520]  Demand that they create a time for us to come down to the Capitol and make this happen
[01:07:47.520 --> 01:07:53.520]  Because we've got a whole slew of issues to address to these folks
[01:07:53.520 --> 01:07:59.520]  And the biggest one I could see making the biggest dent and giving the most power back to the people
[01:07:59.520 --> 01:08:07.520]  Is going to be the one dealing with issues involving the courts and the prosecutors
[01:08:07.520 --> 01:08:14.520]  And that's where my work for the past three weeks has been centered is on writing down all of the ways
[01:08:14.520 --> 01:08:20.520]  That that needs to be addressed, corrected, and where it's in current violation of law and Constitution
[01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.520]  So please, folks, give us a hand
[01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:27.520]  Make these people understand that our voice needs and demands to be heard
[01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:32.520]  And we will not take no for an answer
[01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:37.520]  Right. Yeah, that's good. I really appreciate that, Eddie.
[01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.520]  No problem.
[01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:45.520]  Before you gave that out, the gentleman that was talking about that he'd been doing this a long time
[01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:51.520]  And he was kind of exasperated at why these people keep staying in office
[01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:59.520]  A little incident here with the same way with the Texas City thing I read a couple weeks ago
[01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:05.520]  And, you know, we have these winds from all these storms, these little tropical storms coming in
[01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:11.520]  The oil is getting worse on Galveston and Bolivar
[01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:23.520]  And, you know, as soon as they kept this horizon, people were getting in their boats ready to go out and go fishing
[01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:29.520]  There ought to be something we could do just to keep them from selling
[01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:34.520]  I mean, I feel sorry for the guys. I used to be a fisherman myself in Vietnam
[01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:39.520]  We got run out by the Vietnamese, but the government backed them up
[01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:44.520]  That's another story, but I feel sorry for them, and I know where they are
[01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:47.520]  But the thing is the fishing is over here
[01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:55.520]  And the stuff that they sprayed on the fish sunk, you know, I mean, they made it where it would sink
[01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:02.520]  And that's going to ruin everything underneath, not counting the methane gas coming out of there and all this thing
[01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.520]  But, you know, what I was wanting to
[01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:15.520]  And I know this is a bigger issue than even the courts is this thing you were talking about with all the chemical companies
[01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:24.520]  And the low fines, you know, is ridiculous
[01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.520]  And the thing is I have filed a...
[01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:33.520]  We had a guy dropped out here at the Port of Houston because they're disobeying all the safety rules
[01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:37.520]  And, you know, it just irritates me on the television
[01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:42.520]  They talk about the Port of Houston, how many jobs it's providing, and just like the Horizon thing
[01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:46.520]  How many jobs it's knocking out
[01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:58.520]  And these big companies are using the employment thing as an issue of keeping things going
[01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:04.520]  And it kind of reminds me of the Indians back, my wife and kids are Indian
[01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:10.520]  And it's like they put cholera on the blankets for the Indians to kill them off
[01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:18.520]  And then the Sharps rifle, you know, was built to take away their food supply
[01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:25.520]  And these chemical companies, they just have carte blanche to do anything they want to do
[01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.520]  And they just keep on doing it
[01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:36.520]  And they dropped a person out here, 80 feet, 60 feet, I'm sorry, 60 feet, on a containerized cargo ship
[01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.520]  And the man is disabled now
[01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:48.520]  And he's mentally pretty well messed up because they keep giving him his antidepressants
[01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:53.520]  And I saw the thing on the safety issue, going to the OSHA
[01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:58.520]  And OSHA almost laughed me off the phone
[01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:06.520]  And I went to actually thank God I got the name of the person I was talking to before I talked to him
[01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:15.520]  Because I went through 40 numbers in OSHA to get to the person that I'm writing about to the congressman
[01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:22.520]  That they are abusing the rights of the workers and putting them in danger and they don't care
[01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.520]  It's just like you're talking about the alarms
[01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.520]  They're out here at Bayport, which we are supposed to get the Panama
[01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:35.520]  When the Panama opens, we're supposed to get the 5,000 container ships in here
[01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:44.520]  And the thing is that they have no alarms on the hatches that they take off the ship
[01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:50.520]  And they pull them over the trucks, they pull them over the people that's working under there
[01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.520]  There's no alarms, there should be some kind of alarm
[01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:58.520]  Well, they've got it in a contract that it would wake up the people around
[01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.520]  That's in the neighborhood of Bayport
[01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:05.520]  So they say they can't put alarms on the hatches
[01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:16.520]  Now, talking about the courts, this chemical thing and this big business
[01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:20.520]  Okay, I'll make a long story short
[01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.520]  I filed a congressional on this OSHA
[01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:28.520]  And OSHA was supposed to go out here and check it out
[01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.520]  And they wrote me a letter and said they were going to check it out
[01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:41.520]  And Ted Poe, which is my congressman here, said that they would be contacting me first
[01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:46.520]  On the outcome of their investigation, that is OSHA
[01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.520]  Well, that's been three months ago
[01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:55.520]  And it's been in February when I filed this thing
[01:13:55.520 --> 01:14:00.520]  And now I'm hearing reports that people might be marking me
[01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:05.520]  Because I worked there, you know, I might be a mark, you know
[01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:12.520]  That I have to even worry about that, that they might be
[01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.520]  Okay, you know, I've got several people
[01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:22.520]  Now I've got probably 100 people calling me from work on this Texas City thing
[01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:23.520]  That I put out two weeks ago
[01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:27.520]  And now they're sick and everything else
[01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:28.520]  You understand what I'm saying? I told you, man
[01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:29.520]  I told you
[01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:32.520]  Well, Chris, you got to do something
[01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.520]  I mean, you got the, I said, we've all got to get together, brother
[01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:38.520]  We've all got to get together
[01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.520]  Now ask Eddie and Deborah, how do you fight
[01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.520]  This is the Brockovich thing, okay
[01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:56.520]  Example, how do you fight this mass corporation thing here with all the spills
[01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:59.520]  All the PCPs and the OSHA
[01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:01.520]  I mean, how do you do it?
[01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:03.520]  Without getting killed first
[01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.520]  Well, that's the problem it's always been
[01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:10.520]  As long as the corporations run the world, that's the way it's going to work
[01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:15.520]  And if you're not willing to put yourself in the possible line of fire
[01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.520]  You're not going to see a result
[01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:21.520]  And most certainly not the one that you deserve or desire
[01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.520]  I mean, that was the bullet I had to bite to do what I do right now
[01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.520]  I know that I run a risk every time I get in my car of going to jail
[01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:31.520]  That's right
[01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.520]  But if I'm not willing to put myself in the way of that risk
[01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:40.520]  I don't stand any way of fighting it
[01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:41.520]  That's right
[01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:42.520]  And that's what I want
[01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:44.520]  You know, kind of like this guy was talking before
[01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:48.520]  The gentleman that kind of promoted you to come up with the
[01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:55.520]  I mean, they bet you came up with the writing this grable about this grable
[01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.520]  Okay, this thing here
[01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:03.520]  He was saying, you know, they get a little arrogant
[01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.520]  When they start winning a few cases, we got to stay humble
[01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.520]  And like y'all do, I mean, y'all can get real arrogant if you want to
[01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:12.520]  But the thing is, he was talking about dressing up
[01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:14.520]  You know, I mean, that's good
[01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:15.520]  That's all good
[01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:17.520]  That's all real good
[01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:20.520]  But that is not going to do anything for you
[01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:22.520]  I mean, it's going to help you in court
[01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:26.520]  But the thing is, our deal is to listen to you guys
[01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:29.520]  Stay humble
[01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:34.520]  And he said something there that's in the Bible
[01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:38.520]  Our people perish because of a lack of knowledge
[01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:43.520]  And you guys are out there on the fine line
[01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.520]  And we need to pray for y'all
[01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.520]  We need to listen
[01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:50.520]  And we not need to get arrogant when we win a couple cases
[01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:51.520]  All right, well, thank you, Christian
[01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.520]  Do you want to hang on the line?
[01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:54.520]  No
[01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:55.520]  Okay, great
[01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:56.520]  We'll be back on the other side, folks
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[01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:11.520]  Christian did have another question
[01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:14.520]  He's going to hang on the line because we've got another caller coming in
[01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.520]  Michael from Maryland
[01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:17.520]  Michael, thank you for calling in
[01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:19.520]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.520]  Yeah, hi
[01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.520]  I have a quick question about the due process
[01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:31.520]  But before I ask that, I wanted to talk to you about one line out of our Maryland Constitution
[01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:37.520]  I think I started into that last night that had to be cut off because of my son
[01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:41.520]  There's language in there to the effect that, and I'm having to go by memory here
[01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.520]  Because I don't have it right in front of me
[01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:53.520]  To the effect that the people of Maryland have the sole and exclusive right to regulate the police
[01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:55.520]  Something to that effect
[01:19:55.520 --> 01:20:02.520]  Have you ever read that or do you have anything like that in your Texas Constitution?
[01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.520]  No, because the police are nowhere in the Texas Constitution
[01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:10.520]  Texas Constitution speaks of one law enforcement office and agency only
[01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.520]  That is the Department of the Sheriff
[01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:16.520]  The sheriff's deputy and the county constable
[01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:25.520]  There is no authority in the Texas Constitution for a police force or even a state trooper police force
[01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:31.520]  Even the Texas Rangers are not in the Constitution
[01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:34.520]  Okay, well I wish I had the language right in front of me
[01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:36.520]  Because I'd be intrigued to know what you thought of it
[01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:44.520]  But anyway, let me move on to my common law question or the actually due process question which is
[01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:49.520]  You know, in the Maryland Constitution, and I'm pretty sure Texas has this too
[01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:56.520]  Has something to the effect of the people have the right in criminal proceedings for this, this, and this
[01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:02.520]  There's no reference of course to civil, municipal, or any other kind of statutory thing
[01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:06.520]  So my concern, my question is
[01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:14.520]  What do you feel, what do you two feel would be the most prudent response if it were to be a court of law
[01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:18.520]  And you were to not enter a plea and just simply say
[01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:22.520]  I need to understand the nature and cause of the action against me
[01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:25.520]  And they start throwing out these oddball answers
[01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:30.520]  Whether it be statutory or what not
[01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.520]  If they were to actually pass up and say this is civil
[01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:38.520]  And you said well I'd like to face my accuser, I'd like this and this
[01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:44.520]  And they say on what basis of law do you expect to be accorded that privilege
[01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:49.520]  Well the thing is in a civil case there's no accuser
[01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:56.520]  There's the plaintiff and the defendant but it's not a matter of accusation as it is in a criminal charge
[01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:03.520]  The plaintiff and defendant in a criminal case is very different from the plaintiff and defendant in a civil case
[01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:08.520]  In a criminal case you have the right to face your accuser
[01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:14.520]  In the civil there can't be a case unless there is an accuser
[01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:22.520]  Now this is where the problem comes in where they use the victimless crime of the Malam Prohibitum statutes
[01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:30.520]  They claim the state as the victim when the state is neither tangible nor able to testify to any injury
[01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:38.520]  It's a presumption of injury that has no substantive basis in reality
[01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.520]  Does that make sense, you understand the difference in the two
[01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:44.520]  Are there different schools of thought about how to approach that then
[01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:47.520]  I mean because you're right it is a bit of a quandary they back you into a corner
[01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:51.520]  Are there different schools of thought as to the best way to handle that kind of situation
[01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.520]  If it were to come to that
[01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.520]  Well there's always different schools of thought
[01:22:55.520 --> 01:23:00.520]  The question is which one is going to carry the most force and effect in the particular situation
[01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.520]  You find yourself under a particular judge
[01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:06.520]  Every situation is going to be fluid
[01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:15.520]  Nobody can tell you what will work 100% of the time short of a bullet but then there's consequences to that
[01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:23.520]  So the difference here is do you know the rules
[01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.520]  What rules binds the judge before whom you're appearing
[01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:31.520]  What rules binds the evidence that may be presented
[01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:35.520]  What rules binds the application and the process overall
[01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:40.520]  Those are what you've got to know because that's the only rules they're going to recognize
[01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:46.520]  The only thing they'll recognize is something that is superior to that set of rules
[01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:50.520]  And most of these courts bank on the fact that we don't know what that is
[01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.520]  And if we do we don't know how to use it
[01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:59.520]  Okay would it be safe to say then based on what you just eloquently put out there
[01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:05.520]  That if the preponderance of the evidence going into a situation
[01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:08.520]  Whether it be a traffic citation or something like that
[01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:15.520]  If it seems to be that they're trying to adjudicate it in a civil jurisdiction
[01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:20.520]  That you should bone up on all the rules of civil procedure and so on and not necessarily try to
[01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:22.520]  Like you said face your accuser
[01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:25.520]  I mean you might say I'd like to see the contract that I signed
[01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.520]  I gather that's one thing you could say in a situation like that
[01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.520]  In a civil proceeding most certainly
[01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:34.520]  But now remember there's two dynamics here
[01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:41.520]  Under the criminal aspect all criminal cases must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt
[01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:46.520]  There is no preponderance of evidence in a criminal case period ever
[01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:54.520]  A civil case is the only type of situation in which a preponderance of the evidence can be used
[01:24:54.520 --> 01:25:02.520]  Any other time in a criminal case it is only by beyond a reasonable doubt
[01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:04.520]  Right
[01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:10.520]  Okay so there are two distinct classes of evidentiary necessity here
[01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:12.520]  Right
[01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.520]  I'd still be aiming to try to keep it away from the merits
[01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.520]  I'm more interested in trying to use due process issues
[01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:23.520]  Well the procedure, the necessity of following procedures applicable on both sides
[01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.520]  Whether it be civil or criminal
[01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:30.520]  There is a set of procedures for each they must be followed
[01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:35.520]  When they're not followed and that damages one of the parties
[01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:40.520]  Then that action in and of itself is a reason for dismissal
[01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:43.520]  I see
[01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:45.520]  Okay good
[01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:49.520]  And I think we've covered this before but when the police officer
[01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.520]  If it were to be a traffic case what not
[01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:58.520]  If the police officer steps up and wants to play the role of both the accuser and the witness
[01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:02.520]  Is there, I think I've asked this before so I'm embarrassed asking again
[01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:09.520]  But is there a best way to object to that or to approach that kind of a situation
[01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:12.520]  Well I don't know if there's a best way to do it
[01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:18.520]  It is one of the things that I'm making an argument on for this presentation to the legislature right now
[01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:24.520]  That is one of the things I'm sitting down trying to figure out is okay let's see if I've got these procedures correct
[01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:30.520]  You have the original complainant which is the officer who upon his own volition
[01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:35.520]  Cited a cause of harm by initiating the complaint against me
[01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:41.520]  Then by some miraculous judicial or statutory conversion process
[01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:48.520]  They are able to pass the baton of standing as the injured party off to a non-corporate
[01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:56.520]  Or a non-tangible entity called the state who now assumes the prospect of plaintiff
[01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:00.520]  And the mantle of plaintiff who is claiming the injury
[01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:08.520]  And the original complainant is somehow magically converted into the star witness for this new complainant
[01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:14.520]  And now not only is the new complainant a fiction in and of its own
[01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:21.520]  But all those that are moving against me are also employees or agents of the same entity making the complaint
[01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.520]  And claiming the injury
[01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:28.520]  How is there a fair and impartial trial involved in this process?
[01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:35.520]  Right there's got to be an unclean hands you know stipulation somewhere in the bar rules or something that you could get them on
[01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:38.520]  I mean yeah there's got to be unclean hands
[01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:46.520]  The bar rules say that the attorney can be a lying, cheating, thieving, drunk or drug dealer and they cannot disbar him
[01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:49.520]  Nice, that's great
[01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:55.520]  When the police officer writes you this citation obviously there's the matter of process
[01:27:55.520 --> 01:28:02.520]  You could also approach it from that standpoint I guess to make sure that the citation isn't somehow magically converted into a bona fide
[01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.520]  What's the term I'm looking for Eddie?
[01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:08.520]  Not a citation but you'd like to be what is it?
[01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:09.520]  A bona fide complaint
[01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.520]  A complaint thank you
[01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:19.520]  But do they actually perform some kind of a judicial function because in our constitution as in yours there is the separation of powers
[01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.520]  So I was wondering I thought I heard you say one time about or maybe somebody else said it
[01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:31.520]  That when they actually hand off the complaint it's not a complaint you know it's a citation but whatever to get the process started
[01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:37.520]  That somehow they're crossing the line and you can get them on that too
[01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:48.520]  Well the crossing of the line comes when the officer gives you a copy of the ticket and says you are summoned to court to appear before the judge on this date and this time
[01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:50.520]  That is service of process
[01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:55.520]  According to the laws of Texas that's a judicial function
[01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:56.520]  Right
[01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.520]  And a police officer is an executive officer
[01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:01.520]  Of course
[01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:13.520]  Therefore you have a crossover of one branch or one member of one branch exercising the power authority and duties of another which in the Texas Constitution is forbidden
[01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:33.520]  Last question when it comes to process and citations versus complaints and so on do you still have the same leverage and the same basic grounds to object and to request dismissal on the basis of improper process for civil versus criminal yeah?
[01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:38.520]  That depends upon what the rules of your state say the requirements are for each of those types of services
[01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:42.520]  I see I see well I'll dig in thank you very much people thank you so much
[01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:45.520]  All right thank you Michael
[01:29:45.520 --> 01:30:00.520]  Okay callers we have a half an hour left if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984 Christian from La Porte had another question so Christian will be up next on the other side we'll be right back folks
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[01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:44.520]  Ok folks we are back we like to call in 512-646-1984
[01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:52.520]  We've got two segments left and we've got Christian from La Porte back on the line. Christian you had another question for us?
[01:31:52.520 --> 01:32:08.520]  Yeah concerning these chemical companies and things when I filed with the Congress and told them about OSHA in this situation of how they were real arrogant, real smart elite
[01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:19.520]  They said oh yeah they are, they're very arrogant smart elite and the thing is like I say is they've drugged us out and they haven't let me know their findings
[01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:29.520]  Which they said they would let me know as soon as it, within three to six weeks of it happening after I got the Congress on them
[01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:36.520]  But I was wondering how you fight these big companies like this, what's the best way to?
[01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:44.520]  No you mentioned OSHA that's an agency what do you mean fighting an agency or fighting a private company?
[01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:59.520]  Well all of them I mean they're kind of like you have companies and they're doing work for these entities you know these big
[01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:13.520]  Is it like the unsafe procedures for unloading a ship you've got men working for stevedores what you're doing unsafe practices as well as the crane operators
[01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:26.520]  And that's just a small thing for the chemical companies which you probably have a couple different people there
[01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:36.520]  Well I guess my first question would be if it has to do with unsafe practices or policies on the part of a private company
[01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:48.520]  You would have to be harmed you would have to have some standing or show of harm directly to yourself in order to proceed with a civil case like if you're saying
[01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:56.520]  If he files the case if he's the one filing the case that's true but there's nothing to prevent him from gathering whatever evidence
[01:33:56.520 --> 01:34:03.520]  Or you know pooling the people together that have suffered under this to do something about it
[01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:10.520]  But now here's the situation you've got when you're talking about these government agencies especially federal government agencies
[01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:23.520]  If you can find any one of them that is not in the pocket of one or more of these large corporations that buy and sell them day in and day out
[01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:35.520]  Then you have discovered a true pearl before swine there so to speak because from what I've seen they don't exist
[01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:41.520]  There is not a federal government agency that is not bought and paid for by some special interest
[01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:51.520]  Forget looking it doesn't exist and that's just like the people we've got sitting in Capitol Hill that empower these agencies through their legislative enactments
[01:34:51.520 --> 01:35:02.520]  They're just as bought and paid for I mean in the time that I spent working on Capitol Hill as a consultant doing that software project for the United States Congress
[01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:10.520]  I spent almost a year working right there in the Capitol buildings in Washington DC having face to face interaction with these people
[01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:21.520]  It would astound you how little your actual representative or congressman is involved in what goes on there behind the scenes
[01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:31.520]  And where all the nitty gritty dirty work really comes about not that they don't have a hand in it or don't know about a lot of it
[01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:38.520]  But a lot of it is done at the behest of the peons that work beneath them or for them
[01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:42.520]  It's the guys in the basement, it's this bunch over here
[01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:49.520]  It's his assistant that goes out and makes all these decisions on his behalf when he's not around
[01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:52.520]  That's where all this muckety muck crap comes from
[01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:58.520]  Those that we actually pay to go up there and do the job don't do it
[01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:04.520]  It interferes with their golf game
[01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:09.520]  Right, exactly
[01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.520]  That's the problem folks, that is the problem
[01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.520]  We stood too far apart from them
[01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:21.520]  We haven't stayed within arm's length where we could punch them in the head when they screwed up
[01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:31.520]  We put so much distance between us and them or they have that they think they can act with impunity because we're out of sight and out of mind
[01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:36.520]  We need to remind them that ain't the case
[01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.520]  Right, I appreciate that, I appreciate that
[01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:44.520]  Enjoy your show and be praying for y'all
[01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:47.520]  Well thank you much, I hope that was helpful in the way I answered it
[01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:55.520]  But in truth just being a tenacious bulldog is the only way you're going to be able to fight
[01:36:55.520 --> 01:37:04.520]  Don't give up no matter what you run into because that is what they count on, that we give up
[01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:05.520]  Alright
[01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:12.520]  Alright and Christian I wanted to ask you, I wanted to ask you also because of this tropical storm forming
[01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:21.520]  I've been seeing articles and hearing on the radio and such that apparently they're going to be planning a big evacuation of the Gulf region
[01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:23.520]  Have you heard anything about this?
[01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:33.520]  Oh yes, they've already done that, they've already started evacuating day before yesterday
[01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:43.520]  And folks you better understand that when that storm hits and starts stirring up all that contaminated water and turns it into precipitation
[01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:49.520]  Everything that's in the ocean is going to be spread to the land all around it
[01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:52.520]  You need to be aware of that
[01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:56.520]  That's what people don't get, I mean that is good Eddie
[01:37:56.520 --> 01:38:08.520]  They just don't understand that this is not only a water issue, this is land, no telling how many miles in inland
[01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:15.520]  Let's say maybe 50 miles to 100 miles, maybe more, I don't know, it's just so many effects
[01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:24.520]  But these people think they're all sitting there like a football game and when the thing was capped
[01:38:24.520 --> 01:38:30.520]  It's still leaking, it's still leaking and they've been calling it up that it's leaking
[01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:37.520]  But people think, well I mean I'll just go fishing tomorrow, I mean that's ready to go now
[01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:39.520]  Oh man
[01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:44.520]  I don't know what, I mean because I live here on the coast and I mean as soon as they said it's capped
[01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:47.520]  Everybody started launching their boats around here
[01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:52.520]  Yeah, well that's where we're going to have to pay attention to this
[01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:58.520]  Folks, I'm telling you right now, you go out to eat someplace, you go to the supermarket
[01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:02.520]  You better be avoiding anything that comes from the Gulf Coast
[01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:08.520]  If it didn't come from Maine or North Carolina, stay away from it
[01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:09.520]  That's right
[01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:16.520]  Because this is stuff in the water that's going to affect your grandchildren the moment you eat it
[01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:23.520]  Well and also I'm pretty much not eating any seafood anymore at all because oil is washing up on the New Jersey beaches
[01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:28.520]  And it's getting all the way up, getting close to New England because it's in the Gulf Stream
[01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:30.520]  Which we knew would happen
[01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:34.520]  I mean it was like boom, real fast, the Gulf Stream is a fast moving current
[01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:37.520]  And as soon as it got around the tip of Florida, it was in the Gulf Stream
[01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:43.520]  And like it was only a matter of a few days later when it was washing up on the New Jersey beaches
[01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:50.520]  Now I think the Gulf Stream starts to head out into the ocean before the New England area
[01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:56.520]  So if you're getting seafood off of the Maine coast, the coast of the state of Maine
[01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:02.520]  I mean you might still be safe, but at this point I don't think I'm eating any seafood at all anymore
[01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:04.520]  I'm only eating freshwater fish
[01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:05.520]  That's right
[01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:07.520]  It's just getting too dangerous
[01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:14.520]  They swear off of it, I mean they need to get off of it and you know it's kind of like what you were talking about
[01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:16.520]  The crops, the way they're doing the crops
[01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:24.520]  We need more like whole foods markets and things like that that's doing organic and doing the right thing
[01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:31.520]  But I'll tell you what, we have really got with the steroids
[01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:34.520]  I mean they used to take chickens and put them on ice
[01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:38.520]  Now they take them on a clothesline and spray them with a preservative
[01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:40.520]  And they do the same thing with Gulf shrimp
[01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:45.520]  And that's why they're always red because they don't use much ice
[01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:58.520]  And they throw a shovel load full of MSG on it or some kind of additive like that to preserve it
[01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:03.520]  And that's why you see most of these older people just getting a big belly on them
[01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:07.520]  It's not you know if they're counting people to having a beer gut
[01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:11.520]  But what it is is the preservatives are not going through your body
[01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:17.520]  And they're causing colon cancer and things like that
[01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:26.520]  So you're right Debbie, I mean people need to get off completely and make this world wake up
[01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:29.520]  Hey no more seafood, I don't care if you sell it
[01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:36.520]  Ten cents for 25 shrimp, you better not eat them
[01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:41.520]  You better not eat these oysters and you better not eat any of these fish
[01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:46.520]  They're even talking about the tuna fish are dying off if they come into the Gulf to spawn
[01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:53.520]  And the migration like you said, they go out to the Gulf Strait
[01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:55.520]  I mean it's not just the Gulf of Mexico
[01:41:55.520 --> 01:42:03.520]  This is going to be like that guy was talking about the tankers
[01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:09.520]  Of one tanker of a truck, how many thousands of gallons that it holds
[01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:20.520]  Compared to what's spilling into this Gulf and how they painted what is really spilling into the Gulf
[01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:25.520]  We've got to swear off the sea because you know the Bible says that a third of the sea is going to die
[01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:27.520]  In the last days, this is the last day
[01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:31.520]  The third of the sea is going to die and the rest of it is going to come later
[01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:37.520]  So we've got to wake up like you said, you're right about these court systems
[01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:43.520]  We've got to wake up and we've got to know this is for real
[01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:48.520]  And I appreciate you for your station there
[01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:51.520]  All right, well thank you very much, we appreciate that Christian
[01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:55.520]  And keep calling in and I hope you're getting out of there pretty quick
[01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:58.520]  I hope you're getting out of Texas City
[01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.520]  I've got a couple of real estate people
[01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:05.520]  Well I just mean for the time being just to evacuate to get away from the hurricane
[01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:07.520]  I know, this is for good
[01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:14.520]  Okay, well either way, I mean whether you never go back, I'm just saying I hope you get out of there one way or the other
[01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:19.520]  Whether it's temporary or permanent before this hurricane or storm hits
[01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:20.520]  Right
[01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:22.520]  Okay, keep yourself safe
[01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:23.520]  Okay, very good
[01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:26.520]  All right, we've got one segment left, we're about to head into break
[01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:28.520]  We have Ray from Texas
[01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:34.520]  I'm so glad Ray has called back in because Ray has called in and dropped off the line several times tonight
[01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:37.520]  And Ray, you are up next
[01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:41.520]  We'll be taking your call right on the other side of this break
[01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:45.520]  We're going in the home stretch now, here on the rule of law, we will be right back
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[01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:32.520]  Okay folks, we're going to Ray in Texas
[01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.520]  Ray, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:45:35.520 --> 01:45:37.520]  Hey guys, how are you doing?
[01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:38.520]  Pretty good
[01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:44.520]  Quick question, I have a friend in Wailston County who got a DWI
[01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:48.520]  And the judge had him coming back, coming back, coming back
[01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:53.520]  And finally he got a dirty UA, he smoked some pot or something and got a dirty UA
[01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:58.520]  And they took him before the judge again two days ago
[01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:05.520]  And they did not set a bond to keep him in for I don't know how many weeks
[01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:10.520]  Isn't that like against the civil rights not to set a bond?
[01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:14.520]  The judge ordered him incarcerated on what grounds?
[01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:19.520]  Exactly, a dirty UA
[01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:24.520]  No, no, I'm asking, was he on probation from a previous pleading on the DUI?
[01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:26.520]  Yes
[01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:29.520]  Okay, so the judge revoked his probation?
[01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:31.520]  Yes
[01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.520]  Then no, he does not have to set a bond
[01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:38.520]  A revoked probation has nothing to do with a bond
[01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:40.520]  Just because of the dirty UA?
[01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:45.520]  Yes, if that was a condition of his probation, then yes
[01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:47.520]  And he violated it and got caught, yes
[01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:50.520]  Yeah, because he made a contract
[01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:57.520]  Right, but they also illegally obtained like, because it was a car accident also that he hit something
[01:46:57.520 --> 01:47:00.520]  It wasn't a person though, but he hit something
[01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:06.520]  And told his vehicle and they had blood in the vehicle
[01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:10.520]  But they took the blood at the hospital without his consent
[01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:14.520]  Well, they may not have needed it depending on what the state is
[01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:17.520]  If they're, and I believe this is the way it is in Texas
[01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:22.520]  If there is a car accident, there's some kind of accident involving vehicles
[01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:26.520]  And there's serious injury or blood involved
[01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:32.520]  Then they can take people's blood for testing without their consent at the hospital
[01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:34.520]  That's according to statute, isn't that right Eddie?
[01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:37.520]  Right, but he didn't hit anybody, he hit a tree or something
[01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:42.520]  Well, like I said, if there's some kind of serious car accident
[01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:45.520]  Even if it didn't involve multiple vehicles
[01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:49.520]  I think under statute they don't need your consent
[01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:53.520]  Well, but that still crosses the line of having you provide evidence against yourself
[01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:59.520]  Well, yes it does, I mean, so the statute itself is unconstitutional
[01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:03.520]  So you'd have to challenge the constitutionality of the statute
[01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:06.520]  But what I'm saying is that there is a law currently on the books
[01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:13.520]  That says that they don't have to have your consent if there's a serious accident
[01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.520]  Also guys, I know that you all don't know me
[01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:18.520]  I've met you all before, but Randy knows me
[01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:22.520]  I'm ex-military and I just want to tell you all that Austin is a safe place
[01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:26.520]  Austin is designated a safe area
[01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:28.520]  What does that mean?
[01:48:28.520 --> 01:48:31.520]  That means the revolution is going to begin here and it's going to end here
[01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:34.520]  Well, what does that mean, it's designated a safe place?
[01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.520]  Who designated it a safe place and what does that mean?
[01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:41.520]  Haven't you noticed economically we're in a bubble?
[01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:44.520]  Well, that's not, you're not answering my question
[01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:47.520]  You're saying Austin has been designated a safe place
[01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:55.520]  I'd like to know who did the designating and what does that actually mean?
[01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:58.520]  It comes from the top
[01:48:58.520 --> 01:48:59.520]  Okay
[01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:01.520]  From the top, that's all I can say
[01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:02.520]  Okay
[01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:04.520]  But haven't you noticed how Austin's always kept out of everything
[01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:09.520]  It's like we're in a bubble from everything
[01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:13.520]  Yeah, but whose revolution, theirs or ours?
[01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:17.520]  There are some good guys on the inside, I just want to let you guys know that
[01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:19.520]  Oh, I have no doubt there are some
[01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:21.520]  We know that
[01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:29.520]  The question becomes when the WAD hits the fan, so to speak, where will they stand then?
[01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:31.520]  That's the only question
[01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:40.520]  I am here to tell you that Austin is going to be protected, Austin is a designated safe area
[01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:42.520]  Well, that's good to know
[01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:49.520]  So as long as you stay here, you're safe
[01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:58.520]  Well, I'm not sure what safe is going to imply though, safe from being exterminated and left to live to serve
[01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:03.520]  or safe as in we will be able to fight back and resist and succeed
[01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:06.520]  We will be back, the second one
[01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:08.520]  Okay
[01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:12.520]  And as far as the hurricanes, they're going to use it for evacuation and everything
[01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:19.520]  The people that aren't able to move themselves, they're going to, of course they'll be forced
[01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:23.520]  but those are the ones that are going to go to the camps
[01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:32.520]  The so-called hurricane isn't going to do what you said, Ed, it's actually going to dilute everything
[01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:33.520]  Dilute everything?
[01:50:33.520 --> 01:50:37.520]  Yes
[01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:39.520]  I don't know how that would be possible
[01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:44.520]  Nature can take care of itself, the ground of the filter system, you know
[01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:48.520]  Well, that's true, but we're not under the ground after it's passed through the filter system
[01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:52.520]  We're on the top, catching the brunt of it before it hits the filter system
[01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:58.520]  The last hurricane that came up into the Gulf, I mean, apparently there was a lot of oil that got pushed up into the
[01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:03.520]  Even recognizable, so many parts per billion actually
[01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:07.520]  Well, what I'm saying is because of the storm surge, the oil gets pushed up onto the shore
[01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:13.520]  and into the rivers and into the marshes and all that kind of stuff
[01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:19.520]  Well, yeah, I mean, there will be undrinkable water for a few years, but people should be prepared for that
[01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:24.520]  I mean, it will come back maybe even quicker
[01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:28.520]  Well, yeah, it's not that aspect of it that bothers me so much
[01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:33.520]  It's what it's going to do to genetically alter the food source
[01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:39.520]  and those that ingest it while it's still in a not nearly diluted enough state
[01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:45.520]  Well, if people are dumb enough to eat that stuff, then maybe they deserve to, you know
[01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:46.520]  Well, it's unfortunate that
[01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:51.520]  I can't address the IQ level of the majority of folks. I know I wouldn't eat it, but
[01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:57.520]  Well, it's unfortunate, too, that the mainstream media is certainly not going to warn people not to eat it
[01:51:57.520 --> 01:52:00.520]  That's why we have this media here
[01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.520]  You both, you both, you guys know this is the spinning of the herd
[01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:05.520]  You have to
[01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:06.520]  Oh, yeah
[01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:11.520]  As dumb as America's gotten, my God
[01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:14.520]  That's all this is
[01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:16.520]  Yeah, well, I can honestly
[01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:23.520]  I've met far too many people in my life that have the mindset where it's like, hey, somebody give me a match
[01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:27.520]  I can't see where the gas is coming from
[01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:31.520]  Let me ask you something, man. Where are the most patriots located at?
[01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:34.520]  In Texas, they're in Austin, from what I can tell
[01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:37.520]  Exactly. Why do you think Austin's a protected area?
[01:52:37.520 --> 01:52:43.520]  Because there's a lot of people in this town that are informed, are bright, and are not drinking the water
[01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:47.520]  Yeah, and there's a lot of people trying to get the fluoride out of the water, too
[01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:48.520]  Exactly
[01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:51.520]  And there's a lot of pockets all over the country, too
[01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:54.520]  I mean, New Hampshire especially is full of them
[01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:56.520]  Alabama, it's all over
[01:52:56.520 --> 01:53:00.520]  I mean, listen, the Hank Williams song, you know, that come from the West Virginia coal mines
[01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:06.520]  and the Rocky Mountains and the western skies and California and everywhere else, I mean
[01:53:06.520 --> 01:53:12.520]  There's a few places in America that are also designated staff areas, but they're going to thin the herd on the rest
[01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:17.520]  Well, I'm worried about Houston. I'm concerned about Houston because they're pretty close to the coast
[01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:21.520]  and where, you know, and the thing that I'm mostly concerned about, Austin
[01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:30.520]  I don't think that they're going to evacuate Austin, but the people evacuating from Houston are going to, you know, flood this town
[01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:35.520]  I mean, there was problems in Austin from Katrina, people coming from New Orleans
[01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:41.520]  Well, when it comes to the general population in Houston, not that it applies to everyone, so don't take this wrong
[01:53:41.520 --> 01:53:45.520]  but on average, you're talking single-digit IQs
[01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:46.520]  Exactly
[01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:49.520]  I mean, I've worked in downtown Houston
[01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:52.520]  I've had face-to-face conversations with a lot of these people
[01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:56.520]  and I'm surprised that they can walk and breathe at the same time
[01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:59.520]  I know y'all can't say it on the radio, but I can
[01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:07.520]  Houston is a gone city, but it might as well not even worry about it
[01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:17.520]  As close as it is to the problems we're talking about here, I can seriously have no doubt that's true
[01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:24.520]  and I can say having worked down there for almost a full year for Pennzoil, Quaker State, of all places
[01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:29.520]  I've seen how that city functions day in and day out
[01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:35.520]  and the city itself could care less about the people that's in it
[01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:39.520]  The Bible even talks about it, many will perish for lack of knowledge
[01:54:39.520 --> 01:54:45.520]  and if they choose not to, get off their butts, stop watching those football games
[01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:52.520]  and what's happening with Lindsay Lohan or whatever the newest thing is, then they deserve to be gone
[01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:55.520]  I hate to say that, but if that's the mentality
[01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:58.520]  Well, I can't totally blame the people, I sort of agree with you
[01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:05.520]  but then I also sort of don't because the people, for the most part, are fooled by the mainstream media
[01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:11.520]  I totally lay the blame mostly in the government controlled mainstream media's lap
[01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:18.520]  because they are the ones that are brainwashing the people and they don't have any other choice
[01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:24.520]  I mean, for example, here in Austin, my husband, one of his customers
[01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:31.520]  he was talking about alternative media, I mean now this is practically the mainstream media now
[01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:36.520]  and his customer goes, what do you mean, like the Austin Chronicle?
[01:55:36.520 --> 01:55:43.520]  Folks, the Austin Chronicle is a weekly publication where it publishes the list of venues
[01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:47.520]  of where the bands are playing this weekend
[01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:51.520]  and it's highly leftist collectivist writings and articles
[01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:59.520]  and it's just, it's nonsense, I mean, so this is the level that people have tunnel vision, they're not exposed
[01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:06.520]  I mean, the only reason that I am involved in this at all is because of the micro radio station
[01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:14.520]  Jerry, my husband, stumbled upon the radio station here in Austin about four or five years ago
[01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:20.520]  and he just happened to be hitting the seek scan on the FM dial while he was driving down the road one day
[01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:25.520]  he got sick of whatever song was on the radio or whatever talk radio he was listening to
[01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:30.520]  and he just hit the seek scan and happened to come across, it was 100.1 at the time
[01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:37.520]  and it was also 90.1, but he found 100.1 and he came on, Deb, Deb, you won't believe this radio station that I found
[01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:40.520]  and this guy, Alex Jones, and it's just unbelievable information
[01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:42.520]  and I was like, what? What is all this?
[01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:48.520]  And we had always been doubters of the government, I mean, my husband came from the 60s generation
[01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:52.520]  you know, the anti-war movement and all of that, okay, so we've never trusted the government
[01:56:52.520 --> 01:56:57.520]  but we didn't know the truth because the media was just not there
[01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:03.520]  and so we have to support the micros because that's how we got into all of this from the beginning
[01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:07.520]  we started listening to Alex and the other shows on this station
[01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:14.520]  and I never thought that it would come to pass that we would be involved in supporting it and keeping it going
[01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:22.520]  so the media plays an extremely, extremely crucial role because if we had never heard of this information on the radio
[01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:26.520]  on the FM radio, we would be none the wiser
[01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:30.520]  we could be suffering the fate of the millions
[01:57:30.520 --> 01:57:34.520]  and so that's why we are working so hard to get this message out
[01:57:34.520 --> 01:57:40.520]  and to protect the micro FM stations here in Austin and to increase the media elsewhere
[01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:45.520]  You would still be seeking it and you would have found it by now
[01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:46.520]  Possibly
[01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:47.520]  Exactly
[01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:53.520]  Possibly, you never know, we didn't, we thought we were informed at the time
[01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:57.520]  so no, we weren't really seeking it, we thought we were informed
[01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:02.520]  and he just happened to be looking for another radio station on the dial
[01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:08.520]  so I mean, you can't totally blame the people, I mean, some people are not looking
[01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:13.520]  some people will look, some people may not have wanted to look like us
[01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:16.520]  and it just happened to come upon us
[01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:19.520]  At any rate, Ray, thank you so much for calling in
[01:58:19.520 --> 01:58:23.520]  Wonderful discussion, we want to thank all the callers tonight
[01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:25.520]  Wow, Eddie, we made it
[01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:28.520]  Yeah, folks, thank you all for calling in
[01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:31.520]  We have a great show because you're out there and you're listening
[01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:37.520]  Absolutely, you all, you are listeners or why we are doing this
[01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:39.520]  We will be back on Monday night
[01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:41.520]  This is the rule of law
[01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:44.520]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig and Deborah Stevens
[01:58:44.520 --> 01:59:08.520]  We'll see you on Monday
[01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:16.520]  If you are a Chucky
[01:59:16.520 --> 01:59:21.520]  Watch nobody Chucky from me
[01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:24.520]  If you are a Chucky, Chucky
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[01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:31.520]  I'm like a stepping razor
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[01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:38.520]  I'm like a stepping razor
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