ROL_2010-06-24_16k.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:09.820]  A group of Greek activists is suing senior Israeli officials for their role in the May
[00:09.820 --> 00:15.940]  31st attack on a Gaza-bound aid convoy that resulted in the death of nine civilians. The
[00:15.940 --> 00:21.100]  Greeks are accusing high-ranking Israeli officials, including Defense Minister Ehud Barak and
[00:21.100 --> 00:27.420]  Chief of Staff Ashkenazi, of violating international law by attacking the flotilla in international
[00:27.420 --> 00:34.400]  waters. William Cruz, a charter boat captain recently hired by BP as a vessel of opportunity,
[00:34.400 --> 00:40.440]  died Wednesday of a gunshot to the head. Coroner Stan Vinson said he had been quite despondent
[00:40.440 --> 00:45.040]  about the oil crisis, adding, �There�s no charter business anymore. You go out on
[00:45.040 --> 00:51.040]  some of the beaches now, you can�t even get in the water.� US troops Tuesday killed
[00:51.040 --> 00:56.440]  three Iraqi civilians and wounded three more in the city of Mosul after their vehicle ran
[00:56.440 --> 01:02.220]  over a family. Since the 2003 US-led invasion, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have
[01:02.220 --> 01:08.840]  lost their lives and millions more have been displaced. General David Richards, possibly
[01:08.840 --> 01:13.580]  the next head of the British Army, says British troops could stay in Afghanistan for five
[01:13.580 --> 01:20.160]  more years. Despite a surge that has brought the US-dominated force to 150,000, the Taliban
[01:20.160 --> 01:26.880]  insurgency is at its strongest since it was overthrown in 2001. Under Barack Obama�s
[01:26.880 --> 01:32.400]  strategy, US forces would gradually begin to withdraw in July 2011 as Afghan forces
[01:32.400 --> 01:37.360]  take over. British forces have been engaged in some of the fiercest fighting in the southern
[01:37.360 --> 01:42.560]  province of Helmand. British military deaths have passed 300, eroding public support for
[01:42.560 --> 01:48.240]  the mission. Prime Minister David Cameron has ruled out sending more troops to Afghanistan,
[01:48.240 --> 01:53.040]  saying British forces should not stay a day longer than necessary. The Afghanistan war
[01:53.040 --> 01:58.040]  is costing Britain billions of pounds at a time when it is slashing government spending
[01:58.040 --> 02:04.080]  to reduce a gaping budget deficit. The Obama administration announced Wednesday it will
[02:04.080 --> 02:08.760]  station an aerial drone in Texas as part of its stepped-up surveillance of the Mexican
[02:08.760 --> 02:14.800]  border. On Tuesday, Barack Obama asked Congress for $500 million in emergency border security
[02:14.800 --> 02:20.960]  funds, including two more drones and 1,000 more border patrol officers. Texas Governor
[02:20.960 --> 02:26.800]  Rick Perry and Senator John Cornyn had pressed for months for a pilotless drone, and when
[02:26.800 --> 02:33.040]  it was slow in coming, Cornyn blocked Senate confirmation of Michael Huerta as deputy director
[02:33.040 --> 02:38.120]  of the Federal Aviation Authority. On Wednesday, after learning the drone had been approved,
[02:38.120 --> 02:42.880]  Cornyn said he would allow a vote on Huerta. Unmanned aircraft are used routinely in Iraq
[02:42.880 --> 02:48.800]  and Afghanistan, and also patrol much of the Arizona border using sensors to pinpoint human
[02:48.800 --> 03:18.160]  and drug traffickers. The drone being stationed in Texas can fly for 20 hours.
[03:18.160 --> 03:40.240]  What she wants. What? What?
[03:40.240 --> 03:47.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:47.240 --> 03:53.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:53.240 --> 03:58.240]  When you were eight and you had bad trees You'd go to school and learn the golden rule
[03:58.240 --> 04:03.240]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool? And if you get hot, then you must get cool
[04:03.240 --> 04:09.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:09.240 --> 04:15.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:15.240 --> 04:20.240]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[04:20.240 --> 04:26.240]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your siblings You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me!
[04:26.240 --> 04:31.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:31.240 --> 04:36.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:36.240 --> 05:05.300]  All right, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you here on
[05:05.300 --> 05:11.600]  the Rule of Law. This is Deborah Stevens, I'm here with Randy Kelton and Eddie Craig
[05:11.600 --> 05:18.040]  and tonight and tomorrow night we have a We Are Change extravaganza. Tonight we are speaking
[05:18.040 --> 05:25.000]  with Matt Medina and Joseph from We Are Change San Antonio. Tomorrow night we will be speaking
[05:25.000 --> 05:31.680]  with Bruno Brewiler from We Are Change LA. We're going to be discussing their cases with
[05:31.680 --> 05:38.200]  them. So we want to welcome Matt and Joseph to the show. Welcome to the show, Matt, Joseph.
[05:38.200 --> 05:39.200]  Thank you.
[05:39.200 --> 05:44.560]  All right. Okay, so guys you guys have a court date coming up and apparently this has to
[05:44.560 --> 05:51.560]  do with them accusing you of having an unauthorized sign or something of the sort. Can you all
[05:51.560 --> 05:58.080]  please start from the beginning and tell us the story and what is the status at this point?
[05:58.080 --> 06:08.360]  Okay, our tickets that we received on April 11th for citing a prohibition of portable
[06:08.360 --> 06:16.840]  sign and the city code is referencing commercial signs in the downtown district. So we reported
[06:16.840 --> 06:23.160]  a court with our tickets a few weeks ago and we pleaded not guilty and we were arranged
[06:23.160 --> 06:31.480]  for July 7th to have a jury trial and as of this time we don't have any lawyers or anything
[06:31.480 --> 06:37.440]  but that's pretty much the status. We're going to have a jury trial concerning the prohibition
[06:37.440 --> 06:38.440]  of portable signs.
[06:38.440 --> 06:44.200]  We are trying to see if we can get a video camera in there to videotape the whole thing
[06:44.200 --> 06:47.000]  but we haven't found a way to really do that.
[06:47.000 --> 06:52.720]  Yeah and they may not let you guys bring a camera into the courtroom. Now I know we talked
[06:52.720 --> 06:58.360]  about this on the air a couple of months ago right after this happened and Eddie you were
[06:58.360 --> 07:05.440]  looking up the code at the time and it turns out that this law, this ordinance does not
[07:05.440 --> 07:10.280]  apply to them because this has nothing to do with commercial and it also has to do with
[07:10.280 --> 07:14.760]  something about that the sign has to be affixed to something. Is that correct Eddie?
[07:14.760 --> 07:20.560]  Yes, however we've had a new issue that's come up over that that makes it an even simpler
[07:20.560 --> 07:30.280]  argument fellas and it deals with Article 3 Section 29 Texas Constitution which specifically
[07:30.280 --> 07:35.320]  states that all laws in Texas must have an enacting clause certifying that they were
[07:35.320 --> 07:44.280]  enacted by the state legislature. A city ordinance does not meet that criteria. It is not law
[07:44.280 --> 07:45.520]  upon the people.
[07:45.520 --> 07:50.480]  What was that section again?
[07:50.480 --> 07:58.360]  Article 3 Section 29 Texas Constitution. It specifically states that all laws shall have
[07:58.360 --> 08:04.480]  the following enacting clause be it enacted by the legislature of the state of Texas.
[08:04.480 --> 08:09.160]  Ordinances don't do that and the legislature does not enact them. The city commissioners
[08:09.160 --> 08:10.160]  do.
[08:10.160 --> 08:18.800]  Okay. Is there any way to, we would really like to get a camera in the courtroom. Is
[08:18.800 --> 08:22.720]  there any way to do that or do you think we could submit that, I mean we didn't know
[08:22.720 --> 08:23.720]  what a story would look for that.
[08:23.720 --> 08:29.840]  Well you could petition the court for it but it's really going to be up to the discretion
[08:29.840 --> 08:31.600]  of the judge.
[08:31.600 --> 08:35.640]  We asked the judge because we talked to the judge before and we asked him, we said who
[08:35.640 --> 08:41.200]  do we file a motion with? Who do we petition? He said if we could bring him evidence that
[08:41.200 --> 08:46.720]  we have the right to use a video camera, go look at that and submit it to the state. And
[08:46.720 --> 08:51.800]  then he said the city has an ordinance that you can't have a camera in the court room.
[08:51.800 --> 08:54.160]  Again ordinances do not apply to the people.
[08:54.160 --> 08:59.160]  Okay. But what can we submit to him to, you know what I mean to, you know.
[08:59.160 --> 09:05.160]  Is it 2.04 or 3 Code of Criminal Procedure, Randy?
[09:05.160 --> 09:14.080]  2.03 goes to the prosecuting attorney. That's the one that requires the prosecuting attorney
[09:14.080 --> 09:23.480]  to file a complaint against a public official. 2.04 if I remember right that requires a prosecutor
[09:23.480 --> 09:29.360]  to file a complaint. 2.03 addresses a complaint against a public official. 2.04 addresses
[09:29.360 --> 09:31.480]  complaints against everybody else.
[09:31.480 --> 09:37.440]  The last section of 2.03, neglect of duty, subsection B, it is the duty of the trial
[09:37.440 --> 09:40.560]  court, the attorney representing the accused, the attorney representing the state and all
[09:40.560 --> 09:45.440]  peace officers so conduct themselves to ensure a fair trial for both the state and the defendant.
[09:45.440 --> 09:50.520]  Not impair the presumption of innocence and at the same time afford the public the benefits
[09:50.520 --> 09:51.840]  of a free press.
[09:51.840 --> 09:52.840]  Oh yeah.
[09:52.840 --> 10:00.600]  You guys are free press. If you take care of passing there, you can take a recorder according
[10:00.600 --> 10:04.960]  to that section of statute, the last sentence of 2.03 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[10:04.960 --> 10:10.840]  So is that something that we should just cite to the judge or is there a form for this?
[10:10.840 --> 10:15.640]  Oh, you could just write a motion referencing that section of the statute and tell them
[10:15.640 --> 10:22.280]  that that supersedes any city ordinance barring such a thing in the courtroom because this
[10:22.280 --> 10:23.280]  is state law.
[10:23.280 --> 10:29.840]  Now the other thing is he said we had until the 23rd to find this and he said if it was
[10:29.840 --> 10:35.400]  a day late he would take it but he said, you know, if I submit it tomorrow will it be too
[10:35.400 --> 10:36.400]  late?
[10:36.400 --> 10:41.520]  Well the thing about it is he's going to have a hard time overruling state law just because
[10:41.520 --> 10:47.840]  you didn't file a motion by a certain date when the law says that he will guarantee that
[10:47.840 --> 10:48.840]  this is done.
[10:48.840 --> 10:53.960]  And that's the end of 2.03 you said, right? Out of criminal, what was it again?
[10:53.960 --> 10:54.960]  Code of Criminal Procedure.
[10:54.960 --> 10:55.960]  Code of Criminal Procedure.
[10:55.960 --> 10:59.960]  Code of Criminal Procedure.
[10:59.960 --> 11:08.040]  Who do we file the motion with?
[11:08.040 --> 11:09.040]  Clerk of the court.
[11:09.040 --> 11:14.560]  Unless you take it in court with you then you'd file it with the judge at that time.
[11:14.560 --> 11:17.160]  Yeah, it would be too late at that time.
[11:17.160 --> 11:22.040]  You need to file it I think at least two days before court.
[11:22.040 --> 11:23.040]  Two days before?
[11:23.040 --> 11:24.040]  In the municipal.
[11:24.040 --> 11:25.040]  Okay.
[11:25.040 --> 11:34.760]  Now concerning the argument that this ordinance only applies to commercial signs and signs
[11:34.760 --> 11:40.960]  that are semi-permanently affixed to something and all these sorts of things, would that
[11:40.960 --> 11:47.600]  defense, would that argument be made in a motion prior to the court date or would that
[11:47.600 --> 11:49.160]  That's going to the merits, Debra.
[11:49.160 --> 11:53.360]  You do not want to argue the merits if the procedure's been defeated and the procedure's
[11:53.360 --> 11:56.320]  defeated by Article 3 Section 29 State Constitution.
[11:56.320 --> 12:01.400]  But if they don't, if they don't accept that procedural argument then, and you have to
[12:01.400 --> 12:07.080]  go to the merits, would you do that at the time of the trial?
[12:07.080 --> 12:10.200]  You should have the motion prepared for it just in case, yes.
[12:10.200 --> 12:14.920]  So we should walk in with the motion?
[12:14.920 --> 12:15.920]  Concerning the merits.
[12:15.920 --> 12:20.920]  You need to have the motion filed well ahead of time so that you have time, the prosecutor
[12:20.920 --> 12:24.280]  and attorney needs time to have notice of the motion.
[12:24.280 --> 12:28.960]  Well, Eddie just said that you only, you need to have it prepared for the date but that
[12:28.960 --> 12:31.760]  you don't want to have to go to the merits ahead of time.
[12:31.760 --> 12:32.760]  So which one is it?
[12:32.760 --> 12:37.880]  If you file a motion on the merits, Randy, that's going to screw it up, is it not?
[12:37.880 --> 12:42.440]  Because he's challenging subject matter jurisdiction through Article 3 Section 29.
[12:42.440 --> 12:49.440]  Doesn't matter if you, there's not a prohibition against protecting yourself after you have
[12:49.440 --> 12:55.400]  filed a motion for challenging subject matter jurisdiction.
[12:55.400 --> 13:01.320]  Any other motion won't affect the validity of the motion for subject matter jurisdiction.
[13:01.320 --> 13:05.200]  So you need to file, to prepare the rest of your case.
[13:05.200 --> 13:10.200]  You can't just go in and file a motion for subject matter jurisdiction and do nothing
[13:10.200 --> 13:11.200]  else.
[13:11.200 --> 13:16.040]  You have to have all the others in there and they don't affect, you can't give them jurisdiction
[13:16.040 --> 13:17.040]  if they don't have it.
[13:17.040 --> 13:22.080]  Well, why do you have to let, why do you have to give the prosecutor a heads up on what
[13:22.080 --> 13:23.240]  your defense is?
[13:23.240 --> 13:24.240]  I don't understand that part.
[13:24.240 --> 13:25.240]  This is a criminal case.
[13:25.240 --> 13:26.240]  It's not civil.
[13:26.240 --> 13:29.720]  Yeah, it's a criminal, yeah, it's a criminal case but if you're going to file a motion
[13:29.720 --> 13:33.400]  with the court, that's different than evidence.
[13:33.400 --> 13:38.360]  A motion in the court is asking the court to do something and the prosecutor has to
[13:38.360 --> 13:44.960]  have time to look at it and decide if he wants to object to it and if so, prepare a defense.
[13:44.960 --> 13:49.240]  So in this case, regarding the merits, it would be a motion to dismiss based on the
[13:49.240 --> 13:53.400]  fact that this ordinance does not apply to them because they were not engaged in commerce
[13:53.400 --> 13:57.600]  and it was not in a fixed line and all that sort of thing.
[13:57.600 --> 13:58.600]  That's not merits.
[13:58.600 --> 13:59.600]  That's subject matter jurisdiction.
[13:59.600 --> 14:00.600]  Well, that's what we're talking about.
[14:00.600 --> 14:08.360]  Can we file a motion to dismiss and do something, go somewhere with that?
[14:08.360 --> 14:10.720]  And this is the last part.
[14:10.720 --> 14:17.080]  Can we file a motion to dismiss and then submit that and have them build a case out just because
[14:17.080 --> 14:22.040]  of the motion of dismiss and say what the merits are, does it match, you know, does
[14:22.040 --> 14:23.040]  it match what we were doing?
[14:23.040 --> 14:24.040]  Like that?
[14:24.040 --> 14:25.040]  Of course.
[14:25.040 --> 14:30.480]  Both of those issues go to subject matter jurisdiction.
[14:30.480 --> 14:34.760]  The second is closer to the merits but it still goes to subject matter jurisdiction.
[14:34.760 --> 14:36.920]  The law in this case does not apply.
[14:36.920 --> 14:41.200]  Well, what if they don't recognize that though and we could tell them that, that the
[14:41.200 --> 14:42.200]  subject matter jurisdiction does?
[14:42.200 --> 14:47.840]  Then you also need to take criminal complaints in already filled out, just not signed and
[14:47.840 --> 14:52.680]  dated but you want to have criminal complaints in your hand against that judge for violation
[14:52.680 --> 14:54.120]  of state law.
[14:54.120 --> 14:59.360]  And against the officers for writing the citation.
[14:59.360 --> 15:00.360]  Okay.
[15:00.360 --> 15:06.680]  Okay, so Randy, you're saying that the second defense, the one that we're talking about,
[15:06.680 --> 15:12.000]  the fact that the ordinance does not apply to their activities because it wasn't commercial,
[15:12.000 --> 15:18.080]  etc., that that is not necessarily going to the merits of the case, that that is also
[15:18.080 --> 15:24.040]  a challenge to the subject matter jurisdiction and so they would have a second motion to
[15:24.040 --> 15:30.280]  dismiss based on that fact or would that be all part of the same motion to dismiss as
[15:30.280 --> 15:33.000]  a second reason or what?
[15:33.000 --> 15:36.160]  Yeah, second reason, same motion.
[15:36.160 --> 15:39.440]  So one motion to dismiss and there would be two reasons.
[15:39.440 --> 15:45.440]  The first one, A, was talking about the enacting clause and then the second reason is that
[15:45.440 --> 15:51.280]  the ordinance does not apply to their activities because it was not engaged in commerce.
[15:51.280 --> 15:55.640]  One motion to dismiss with two reasons on the motion to dismiss?
[15:55.640 --> 16:02.200]  Yes, you do the first argument and then you say in the alternative, you argue the second
[16:02.200 --> 16:03.200]  issue.
[16:03.200 --> 16:04.200]  Okay.
[16:04.200 --> 16:11.720]  And you would cite the ordinance number and you would quote from that where it talks about
[16:11.720 --> 16:17.640]  commerce and where it talks about the sign has to be affixed to something, etc., etc.
[16:17.640 --> 16:22.920]  And then you would point out in your motion that, look, this had nothing to do with commerce,
[16:22.920 --> 16:29.200]  we were not advertising and plus the sign was not affixed, so you would point out all
[16:29.200 --> 16:30.200]  those details.
[16:30.200 --> 16:33.800]  Okay, once we follow this motion, how long do they have to respond back?
[16:33.800 --> 16:35.480]  All right, hold on one moment.
[16:35.480 --> 16:39.760]  We're going to break and then we'll talk about that as soon as we get on the other side.
[16:39.760 --> 16:42.600]  All right, this is the rule of law.
[16:42.600 --> 16:47.280]  We're speaking with Matt and Joseph from We Are Change San Antonio.
[16:47.280 --> 17:02.640]  We will be right back.
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[17:56.560 --> 18:25.120]  Look what we got, we asked for Christian, we don't have answer, we asked for Christian,
[18:25.120 --> 18:45.080]  we don't have answer, we asked for Christian, we asked for Christian, we asked for Christian,
[18:45.080 --> 19:07.720]  we asked for Christian, and they don't have the answer.
[19:07.720 --> 19:21.960]  All right, tyranny, them that tear you, them that tear me, them that tear up the whole
[19:21.960 --> 19:22.960]  country.
[19:22.960 --> 19:27.880]  Well, not if we have anything to say and do about it.
[19:27.880 --> 19:30.160]  Same with We Are Change.
[19:30.160 --> 19:35.320]  We're here with We Are Change San Antonio right now, Matt and Abel, and you guys were
[19:35.320 --> 19:38.960]  asking when does this motion have to be filed?
[19:38.960 --> 19:39.960]  Right.
[19:39.960 --> 19:42.480]  When do we have to file it?
[19:42.480 --> 19:47.000]  Well, not necessarily that, I might file it tomorrow or Monday, but how long do they have
[19:47.000 --> 19:48.000]  to respond to it?
[19:48.000 --> 19:50.680]  Do they have to respond to it before the court date?
[19:50.680 --> 19:57.200]  Yeah, if it goes as normal, you won't get a response to it.
[19:57.200 --> 19:58.200]  Oh, well then how do we know?
[19:58.200 --> 19:59.200]  That's the way it normally works.
[19:59.200 --> 20:05.200]  But how do we know if our case is still there, you know what I mean?
[20:05.200 --> 20:07.360]  Yeah, well, you're going to show up on the day of court.
[20:07.360 --> 20:15.240]  Now what you can do is you can use their general rules against them, and what is it Randy,
[20:15.240 --> 20:21.200]  20 days is the requirement of time to reply to a motion?
[20:21.200 --> 20:26.040]  No, in this case, they don't have to reply to this motion.
[20:26.040 --> 20:28.440]  Yeah, and you need to show up for court.
[20:28.440 --> 20:31.840]  I mean, if you're concerned about getting a warrant for your arrest, I mean show up
[20:31.840 --> 20:32.840]  for court.
[20:32.840 --> 20:36.720]  I always tell people you have to show up for court.
[20:36.720 --> 20:37.720]  Never just not show up.
[20:37.720 --> 20:38.720]  What would a judge say?
[20:38.720 --> 20:39.720]  Oh, it's dismissed?
[20:39.720 --> 20:40.720]  We got your motion?
[20:40.720 --> 20:41.720]  I mean, how would we?
[20:41.720 --> 20:42.720]  You know what I'm saying?
[20:42.720 --> 20:43.960]  Yeah, that's usually what will happen.
[20:43.960 --> 20:49.200]  If they're going to dismiss it, you will get a dismissal in the mail most of the time,
[20:49.200 --> 20:51.160]  if they're going to dismiss it.
[20:51.160 --> 20:56.160]  Otherwise, if you do have to appear in court, unless they tell you immediately that it's
[20:56.160 --> 21:01.100]  dismissed, the first thing you want to do is address the fact that your motion has been
[21:01.100 --> 21:02.100]  filed.
[21:02.100 --> 21:04.600]  You've not received an answer, and you need one.
[21:04.600 --> 21:05.600]  Okay.
[21:05.600 --> 21:16.000]  Then the other thing is, what evidence are we going to submit for evidence, if we do
[21:16.000 --> 21:17.000]  go to court?
[21:17.000 --> 21:23.600]  Well, you'll submit a photocopy or a certified copy of that section of the state constitution
[21:23.600 --> 21:29.920]  and a copy of the city ordinance, specifically to the judge stating where these are the elements
[21:29.920 --> 21:36.400]  that it says are consistent of the crime, and these elements are not met.
[21:36.400 --> 21:42.680]  The state constitution says that an ordinance is not law, and therefore, it cannot be binding
[21:42.680 --> 21:48.120]  upon a private citizen exercising the right of political free speech, and so on and so
[21:48.120 --> 21:51.120]  forth.
[21:51.120 --> 21:54.400]  You said that the rules are prestigious for submitting evidence, what is the procedure
[21:54.400 --> 21:55.400]  for submitting evidence?
[21:55.400 --> 21:59.000]  Do you do it right there in the court, or do you do it before you go to court?
[21:59.000 --> 22:01.440]  That would be like an exhibit in your motion.
[22:01.440 --> 22:02.440]  Okay.
[22:02.440 --> 22:06.520]  You can do it as judicial notice.
[22:06.520 --> 22:11.400]  You'll file it with the court as judicial notice of those sections of the ordinance
[22:11.400 --> 22:12.960]  and those sections of the constitution.
[22:12.960 --> 22:15.880]  Okay, so it would not be an exhibit then, Eddie?
[22:15.880 --> 22:17.640]  No, it's not an exhibit.
[22:17.640 --> 22:22.520]  It is judicial notice filed as an attachment.
[22:22.520 --> 22:26.640]  Or you can do it in the beginning of the motion.
[22:26.640 --> 22:33.960]  You can start out with the heading, and then the name of the motion, and then judicial
[22:33.960 --> 22:35.680]  notice.
[22:35.680 --> 22:44.080]  You only take judicial notice of those facts that are not in controversy and incontrovertible
[22:44.080 --> 22:45.080]  law.
[22:45.080 --> 22:46.080]  Okay.
[22:46.080 --> 22:50.400]  Now, as far as exhibits go, should we take a picture of the banner, or should we bring
[22:50.400 --> 22:52.560]  the banner with us to court that we actually had?
[22:52.560 --> 22:55.080]  I would bring the banner, yes.
[22:55.080 --> 23:00.240]  That would be one of your exhibits, and also the DVDs and everything, and the fact that
[23:00.240 --> 23:01.840]  you were giving them away for free.
[23:01.840 --> 23:03.200]  You were not selling them.
[23:03.200 --> 23:04.200]  Right, right.
[23:04.200 --> 23:07.400]  Now, do we submit that into evidence, or do we just bring it and it's there?
[23:07.400 --> 23:09.560]  I mean, how does that go?
[23:09.560 --> 23:12.080]  You can bring it as an exhibit, not as evidence.
[23:12.080 --> 23:16.120]  But I thought you had just said, Eddie, that we're not going to do exhibits.
[23:16.120 --> 23:17.680]  We're going to do judicial notice.
[23:17.680 --> 23:23.920]  No, the notice of the constitutional and statutory sections is not going to be evidence.
[23:23.920 --> 23:26.120]  It's going to be judicial notice.
[23:26.120 --> 23:27.120]  Okay, okay.
[23:27.120 --> 23:32.080]  Judicial notice of that section of the constitution and judicial notice of that section of the
[23:32.080 --> 23:38.040]  city ordinance, and then the exhibits are the banner and the DVDs.
[23:38.040 --> 23:39.240]  Right.
[23:39.240 --> 23:44.040]  And the fact that the officer was made aware ahead of time that you were not selling them,
[23:44.040 --> 23:50.520]  you were exercising your right to political free speech, and so on and so forth.
[23:50.520 --> 23:54.360]  Now, would these exhibits be mentioned in the motion, or no?
[23:54.360 --> 24:00.280]  Yes, you always list the exhibits.
[24:00.280 --> 24:04.240]  You make a reference to it and include it by reference.
[24:04.240 --> 24:09.520]  You make a statement that this exhibit is included by reference in its entirety.
[24:09.520 --> 24:15.280]  But they're not going to actually file their banner as an exhibit with the motion, because
[24:15.280 --> 24:16.680]  it's like this big banner.
[24:16.680 --> 24:18.640]  No, a photograph of the banner.
[24:18.640 --> 24:19.640]  Okay.
[24:19.640 --> 24:28.400]  Maybe a photograph of the event, you know, if you could pull a still frame out of the
[24:28.400 --> 24:36.680]  video to show that, look, here's the exhibit A, where you can see in exhibit A the photograph,
[24:36.680 --> 24:39.240]  the banner, and the DVDs.
[24:39.240 --> 24:43.560]  Actually, exhibit A should be the video they shot and posted on YouTube.
[24:43.560 --> 24:44.560]  Okay.
[24:44.560 --> 24:47.280]  Well, how do we submit that as an exhibit of the video?
[24:47.280 --> 24:50.040]  I mean, you just point to the link or something?
[24:50.040 --> 24:51.440]  Yeah, how are they going to submit it?
[24:51.440 --> 24:55.640]  You make a reference to it in the motion.
[24:55.640 --> 25:01.160]  Like a statement, you make a statement that at the time of the incident, the particular
[25:01.160 --> 25:04.960]  incident was videotaped by such and such a person.
[25:04.960 --> 25:05.960]  That's foundation.
[25:05.960 --> 25:10.000]  But don't they have to include the video as an exhibit with the motion?
[25:10.000 --> 25:14.840]  You need to put the video on a DVD that you can take to the court.
[25:14.840 --> 25:15.840]  Okay.
[25:15.840 --> 25:19.080]  If you can't, you have to establish foundation for evidence.
[25:19.080 --> 25:20.080]  So you...
[25:20.080 --> 25:21.080]  Okay.
[25:21.080 --> 25:22.080]  Now, here's the other question that has just come up.
[25:22.080 --> 25:24.160]  The judge told us that we brought evidence.
[25:24.160 --> 25:28.960]  We had to bring our own audio video equipment, so...
[25:28.960 --> 25:31.680]  Can you hook that video camera up to a TV set?
[25:31.680 --> 25:34.280]  Well, it's probably not a video camera anymore.
[25:34.280 --> 25:36.680]  I mean, I have a projector and a laptop.
[25:36.680 --> 25:39.680]  I guess I should take it.
[25:39.680 --> 25:40.680]  I guess I should...
[25:40.680 --> 25:41.680]  Yeah.
[25:41.680 --> 25:43.080]  If you've got a projector and laptop, that will suffice.
[25:43.080 --> 25:44.080]  Okay.
[25:44.080 --> 25:45.080]  Yeah.
[25:45.080 --> 25:46.080]  That's good.
[25:46.080 --> 25:47.080]  Now, I was wondering about something.
[25:47.080 --> 25:51.840]  The only thing I thought I could use for evidence, like in my case, was the fact that I asked
[25:51.840 --> 25:52.840]  the cop.
[25:52.840 --> 25:57.600]  I said, so just for the record, you're giving me a ticket because I tried to give you a
[25:57.600 --> 25:58.600]  DVD, right?
[25:58.600 --> 25:59.600]  And he said yes.
[25:59.600 --> 26:00.600]  So to me, I was thinking that right there.
[26:00.600 --> 26:01.600]  What did he charge you with?
[26:01.600 --> 26:02.600]  Same thing.
[26:02.600 --> 26:03.600]  That same thing.
[26:03.600 --> 26:04.600]  Okay.
[26:04.600 --> 26:09.440]  Well, then your exhibits and information is going to be exactly the same as everyone else's
[26:09.440 --> 26:10.440]  then.
[26:10.440 --> 26:11.440]  Okay.
[26:11.440 --> 26:16.880]  And since the officer was in the video doing what he's doing, that's going to be the reason
[26:16.880 --> 26:20.720]  you're going to be pressing charges against the officer.
[26:20.720 --> 26:26.240]  The officer is obviously colluding with other officers to trump up a charge to shut you
[26:26.240 --> 26:27.240]  up.
[26:27.240 --> 26:28.720]  That's basically how I would address it.
[26:28.720 --> 26:29.720]  Yeah.
[26:29.720 --> 26:30.720]  Yeah.
[26:30.720 --> 26:31.720]  What did you say?
[26:31.720 --> 26:32.720]  Press charges?
[26:32.720 --> 26:33.720]  Like when?
[26:33.720 --> 26:34.720]  Yes.
[26:34.720 --> 26:38.440]  You need to take criminal complaints to court with you as well against the police officers.
[26:38.440 --> 26:40.440]  That's going to be a separate form, right?
[26:40.440 --> 26:41.440]  Yes.
[26:41.440 --> 26:45.840]  It'll be a separate form, yes, but you'll submit it at the same time.
[26:45.840 --> 26:51.160]  And you'll want copies of those complaints as attachments to your motion when you file
[26:51.160 --> 26:52.160]  it.
[26:52.160 --> 26:53.160]  And you'll need to...
[26:53.160 --> 26:56.680]  So most of the criminal complaints and the exhibits are all going to be submitted in
[26:56.680 --> 26:57.680]  one shot.
[26:57.680 --> 26:58.680]  Right.
[26:58.680 --> 27:02.800]  Now, the criminal complaints that I would file if I were you would be abuse of official
[27:02.800 --> 27:12.720]  capacity 2.02, I'm sorry, 39.02, and official oppression 39.03, Code of Criminal Procedure.
[27:12.720 --> 27:13.720]  What?
[27:13.720 --> 27:14.720]  Penal code.
[27:14.720 --> 27:15.720]  I'm sorry.
[27:15.720 --> 27:16.720]  39.02.
[27:16.720 --> 27:17.720]  39.02.
[27:17.720 --> 27:18.720]  What again?
[27:18.720 --> 27:19.720]  Two?
[27:19.720 --> 27:20.720]  And what else?
[27:20.720 --> 27:21.720]  39.02 and 39.03.
[27:21.720 --> 27:24.560]  Now, I've got copies of criminal complaints for both of those.
[27:24.560 --> 27:27.720]  You just have to change the details of them to suit your specifics.
[27:27.720 --> 27:28.720]  Okay.
[27:28.720 --> 27:29.720]  Now, wait a minute.
[27:29.720 --> 27:32.560]  They're going to file the criminal complaints before the case?
[27:32.560 --> 27:33.560]  On the officer, they can.
[27:33.560 --> 27:34.560]  Okay.
[27:34.560 --> 27:36.200]  Because the officer has already committed the crime.
[27:36.200 --> 27:37.200]  Okay.
[27:37.200 --> 27:38.200]  Yeah.
[27:38.200 --> 27:39.600]  And they would go to the district attorney for that?
[27:39.600 --> 27:40.600]  Yeah.
[27:40.600 --> 27:45.680]  They could file them with the clerk of the court and send copies attached to their motion
[27:45.680 --> 27:48.320]  when they have to notify the district attorney anyway.
[27:48.320 --> 27:49.320]  Wait.
[27:49.320 --> 27:53.520]  You can't technically file a criminal complaint with the clerk of the court.
[27:53.520 --> 27:54.520]  No, no, no.
[27:54.520 --> 27:55.520]  I understand that.
[27:55.520 --> 27:57.840]  I'm talking a certified copy of it.
[27:57.840 --> 28:05.480]  But the clerk, unless you file it into the case, and in that case, you would want it
[28:05.480 --> 28:13.480]  as an attachment to a motion that's moving to dismiss because the officer violated his
[28:13.480 --> 28:21.520]  breach of code of his office and acted outside the scope of his authority, and use that complaint
[28:21.520 --> 28:26.320]  as an attachment, then you could get it filed into the permanent court record.
[28:26.320 --> 28:27.320]  Okay.
[28:27.320 --> 28:32.160]  But officially, you can't file one that way.
[28:32.160 --> 28:38.600]  Officially, a criminal complaint is filed with a magistrate, which that judge just happens
[28:38.600 --> 28:39.600]  to be.
[28:39.600 --> 28:40.600]  Yeah.
[28:40.600 --> 28:42.200]  But that would have to be done in person.
[28:42.200 --> 28:43.680]  That's not filed with the clerk.
[28:43.680 --> 28:44.680]  In court.
[28:44.680 --> 28:49.040]  I say, Your Honor, I want to file criminal complaints against this officer.
[28:49.040 --> 28:50.040]  Here it is.
[28:50.040 --> 28:51.040]  I mean...
[28:51.040 --> 28:57.720]  Well, I generally, if you try to do that, the judge is going to do a song and dance
[28:57.720 --> 29:02.160]  and try to get out of it, so I generally try to bushwhack him with it.
[29:02.160 --> 29:03.160]  I just want to get it in.
[29:03.160 --> 29:04.160]  I mean, all this...
[29:04.160 --> 29:05.160]  I've never been in court before.
[29:05.160 --> 29:06.160]  It's my first time doing this.
[29:06.160 --> 29:07.160]  I mean, we're just...
[29:07.160 --> 29:08.160]  You know what I mean?
[29:08.160 --> 29:09.160]  Yeah.
[29:09.160 --> 29:18.400]  So you tell the judge you have a document you need him to look at, and ask to approach
[29:18.400 --> 29:24.440]  and give him the document, and when he looks at it, he's bound by law.
[29:24.440 --> 29:28.880]  And then what's going to happen is the prosecutor's going to object for you wanting to give something
[29:28.880 --> 29:32.840]  to the judge that he hasn't seen yet, so then how do you get around that?
[29:32.840 --> 29:35.640]  Well, do you submit an report, Dave?
[29:35.640 --> 29:36.640]  Yeah.
[29:36.640 --> 29:37.640]  He's going to...
[29:37.640 --> 29:41.760]  Well, it kind of depends on how that works if you get the opportunity.
[29:41.760 --> 29:50.720]  Would it be easier just to go to the prosecutor, to the district attorney?
[29:50.720 --> 29:51.720]  He's easier that way.
[29:51.720 --> 29:52.720]  All right.
[29:52.720 --> 29:53.720]  Listen, we're going to break.
[29:53.720 --> 29:54.720]  Stay on the line.
[29:54.720 --> 29:55.720]  We'll be right back.
[29:55.720 --> 29:56.720]  Okay.
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[32:22.640 --> 32:35.240]  Okay, we're back.
[32:35.240 --> 32:40.120]  We're speaking with Matt and Joseph from We Are Change San Antonio, talking about this
[32:40.120 --> 32:43.960]  case that they have coming up.
[32:43.960 --> 32:48.440]  The bushwhacking thing of the judge, see all judges are magistrates, and the bushwhacking
[32:48.440 --> 32:54.120]  thing of the judge during a trial in a criminal case, it may or may not work because what's
[32:54.120 --> 32:59.280]  going to happen is... See, once the judge has a criminal complaint in front of his hand,
[32:59.280 --> 33:03.560]  all of a sudden he becomes a magistrate, and he's bound by duty to act upon it, but getting
[33:03.560 --> 33:06.320]  it into his hand is the hard part.
[33:06.320 --> 33:08.720]  If you just tell him you want to give him a criminal complaint, he's not going to want
[33:08.720 --> 33:12.920]  to take it, and yeah, that's a crime too, so then you can go after him for that, and
[33:12.920 --> 33:17.320]  it just sort of goes around in circles, and you create more fights for yourself.
[33:17.320 --> 33:22.040]  If you manage to be able to get it in front of him, the prosecutor's going to object because
[33:22.040 --> 33:25.200]  you're trying to give something to the judge without the prosecutor seeing it.
[33:25.200 --> 33:30.080]  He's going to object and say it's something ex parte, and it could be very difficult,
[33:30.080 --> 33:33.440]  and that's why we were saying maybe better just to give the criminal complaints to the
[33:33.440 --> 33:41.080]  district attorney either before or after the trial, or you can have them attached as an
[33:41.080 --> 33:47.160]  exhibit as a third reason to dismiss because the police did this or that or the other thing
[33:47.160 --> 33:48.840]  that was breaking the law.
[33:48.840 --> 33:55.880]  Now going back to the evidence thing, Randy was starting to say a few minutes ago concerning
[33:55.880 --> 33:58.320]  establishing foundation for the evidence.
[33:58.320 --> 34:03.280]  You can't just give anything as evidence, so Randy, you want to explain that?
[34:03.280 --> 34:04.280]  Yeah.
[34:04.280 --> 34:14.580]  If anybody's been in court and they try to give something to the judge, you get an objection
[34:14.580 --> 34:17.880]  from the prosecutor foundation.
[34:17.880 --> 34:24.320]  In order to give evidence, you have to show that the evidence has some bearing or relevance
[34:24.320 --> 34:34.680]  to the case, and that's establishing foundation, like the video, the YouTube video.
[34:34.680 --> 34:45.920]  You need evidence in the court that at the time this occurred, someone was videotaping
[34:45.920 --> 34:46.920]  the incident.
[34:46.920 --> 34:47.920]  That's the foundation.
[34:47.920 --> 34:48.920]  Is that what we say?
[34:48.920 --> 34:49.920]  Yeah.
[34:49.920 --> 34:52.920]  Now like in Matthew's case, we all three have tickets.
[34:52.920 --> 34:53.920]  Matthew was the one videotaping.
[34:53.920 --> 34:56.920]  Can you say, well, I was videotaping while I was getting the ticket?
[34:56.920 --> 35:00.800]  Can you approach it the same way that me and Adam would?
[35:00.800 --> 35:07.440]  Yes, you can do that in an affidavit in the motion where you're making a statement of
[35:07.440 --> 35:08.440]  fact in the motion.
[35:08.440 --> 35:12.160]  So is this a motion to submit evidence, is that a separate motion?
[35:12.160 --> 35:21.000]  Yeah, like in your motion to dismiss, stating that the particular ordinance doesn't apply
[35:21.000 --> 35:28.760]  to you because you weren't acting in commerce, and as you can state in the motion that you
[35:28.760 --> 35:32.840]  weren't acting in commerce, and there's absolute proof that you weren't acting in commerce,
[35:32.840 --> 35:38.560]  and that proof consists of a videotape that a certain individual was taking of the incident
[35:38.560 --> 35:40.040]  at the time it occurred.
[35:40.040 --> 35:41.640]  She said videotape attached.
[35:41.640 --> 35:47.000]  Yeah, and also the sign was laying on the ground too.
[35:47.000 --> 35:49.440]  That establishes foundation for the videotape.
[35:49.440 --> 35:55.240]  Okay, and then when we submit the motion, we don't submit a DVD ahead of time, we just
[35:55.240 --> 35:57.240]  bring it to court with us, right?
[35:57.240 --> 35:58.240]  Right.
[35:58.240 --> 35:59.240]  Take it to court with you.
[35:59.240 --> 36:02.920]  Well, then how would they list that as an exhibit in the motion or not?
[36:02.920 --> 36:03.920]  I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[36:03.920 --> 36:04.920]  Yeah, you're right.
[36:04.920 --> 36:09.440]  It would have to be, you need to file it ahead of time and send it to the prosecutor so he
[36:09.440 --> 36:13.640]  can look at it and scream and holler and jump up and down and object.
[36:13.640 --> 36:15.640]  That's time to view it, okay?
[36:15.640 --> 36:20.600]  If there's a link on YouTube, well, no, that's fine, I'll forget that, I was thinking something,
[36:20.600 --> 36:23.440]  you know, we could just go to the web and show it, but we've got to have it on our
[36:23.440 --> 36:24.440]  desk.
[36:24.440 --> 36:25.440]  That would be even better.
[36:25.440 --> 36:30.440]  Yeah, but they would still have to have their audio-video equipment is the point if they
[36:30.440 --> 36:32.120]  want to present it in court.
[36:32.120 --> 36:37.320]  I can bring my laptop and a projector and I've got a way to get in on my laptop.
[36:37.320 --> 36:43.840]  You may want to say in the motion, you may want to, you know, you may want to cite the
[36:43.840 --> 36:49.480]  URL for the YouTube video, but you're also going to want to submit the DVD as a specific
[36:49.480 --> 36:50.480]  exhibit.
[36:50.480 --> 36:54.320]  You're not going to want to rely on the Internet connection in court, they may not have it.
[36:54.320 --> 37:02.760]  And also for the motion, also for the motion that the prosecutor is going to have to see,
[37:02.760 --> 37:08.640]  you want him to have the DVD too, so you list both, because it's an exhibit, so it has to
[37:08.640 --> 37:13.800]  be a thing or a piece of paper or something, not just a link.
[37:13.800 --> 37:14.800]  Okay.
[37:14.800 --> 37:15.800]  All right.
[37:15.800 --> 37:21.160]  Now that makes sense, he has to have a time to review it and see it ahead of time, but
[37:21.160 --> 37:25.440]  we can't object to a data system like a surprise, you know, piece of evidence.
[37:25.440 --> 37:26.440]  Right.
[37:26.440 --> 37:27.440]  Right.
[37:27.440 --> 37:29.280]  And you have to establish the foundation for the evidence.
[37:29.280 --> 37:33.360]  And these are going to be motions that each one of you file, because these are separate
[37:33.360 --> 37:34.360]  cases.
[37:34.360 --> 37:35.360]  Right.
[37:35.360 --> 37:36.360]  Where each one of you are separate defendants.
[37:36.360 --> 37:37.360]  Right.
[37:37.360 --> 37:41.680]  And now this foundation, maybe we can kind of clarify that, because I'm not sure I understand
[37:41.680 --> 37:42.680]  get that, you know, the foundation.
[37:42.680 --> 37:45.400]  How do we establish the foundation?
[37:45.400 --> 37:48.160]  Foundation is really relatively simple.
[37:48.160 --> 37:55.000]  Foundation just means that you establish that the evidence you're about to present has some
[37:55.000 --> 37:56.520]  bearing on the case.
[37:56.520 --> 37:57.520]  Okay.
[37:57.520 --> 38:04.440]  And like with the videotape, you can say that, you know, you weren't, what you were doing
[38:04.440 --> 38:07.360]  didn't constitute commerce.
[38:07.360 --> 38:14.200]  And there's proof that you didn't, that you weren't in commerce, and that proof is contained
[38:14.200 --> 38:22.600]  on a videotape that was taped at the time of the incident, that establishes foundation
[38:22.600 --> 38:23.600]  for the videotape.
[38:23.600 --> 38:30.240]  So, Randy, would this be like a separate paragraph where it's in their motion to dismiss, where
[38:30.240 --> 38:37.040]  it's a, you know, when they're about to cite the DVD as an exhibit, they would have a paragraph
[38:37.040 --> 38:41.600]  titled foundation for evidence for exhibit A or what?
[38:41.600 --> 38:42.600]  How would that be written?
[38:42.600 --> 38:45.320]  You wouldn't, you wouldn't call it foundation.
[38:45.320 --> 38:54.020]  You would just state that at the time of the incident, there was a videotape being made
[38:54.020 --> 38:59.440]  by a certain person and that videotape is attached.
[38:59.440 --> 39:09.560]  Stating that it, that's evidence that a videotape was being, was made at the time of the incident,
[39:09.560 --> 39:12.600]  that gives foundation for the introduction of the videotape.
[39:12.600 --> 39:18.560]  If you just tried to introduce the videotape without the sworn testimony and the sworn
[39:18.560 --> 39:24.120]  testimony could be in the form of a motion, of a statement, of affidavit in a motion.
[39:24.120 --> 39:29.440]  And who's the sworn testimony, would that be of Matt, the one who took the video?
[39:29.440 --> 39:37.540]  Yes, well, the plaintiff, the defendant in filing a motion, when you make a statement
[39:37.540 --> 39:41.220]  of positive fact in a motion, that has to be verified.
[39:41.220 --> 39:49.640]  So that portion of the motion becomes an affidavit and that affidavit, if it gives evidence that
[39:49.640 --> 39:58.520]  there exists, if it states that there exists evidence, that gives foundation for the evidence.
[39:58.520 --> 40:04.120]  Now would they say in this foundation statement that this videotape, which was taken at the
[40:04.120 --> 40:09.800]  time of the alleged incident, proves that the defendant was not engaged in commerce?
[40:09.800 --> 40:12.560]  Would they state that as well?
[40:12.560 --> 40:13.560]  You can.
[40:13.560 --> 40:17.840]  It depends on how your argument flows.
[40:17.840 --> 40:21.760]  But I mean, if you just say there's a videotape that was taken at the time, here it is.
[40:21.760 --> 40:25.280]  I mean, don't they have to be a little bit more specific than that?
[40:25.280 --> 40:30.840]  Yeah, I'm trying not to dictate their dialogue, but you'd merely have to state that there
[40:30.840 --> 40:37.760]  is evidence that exists and it exists in the form of a videotape, that the videotape was
[40:37.760 --> 40:40.360]  taken at the time of the incident.
[40:40.360 --> 40:43.640]  That establishes that the videotape is evidence.
[40:43.640 --> 40:45.360]  That gives you foundation for it.
[40:45.360 --> 40:52.320]  But they don't have to say that the videotape establishes that the defendant was not engaged
[40:52.320 --> 40:53.320]  in commerce?
[40:53.320 --> 40:54.480]  They don't have to go that far?
[40:54.480 --> 40:55.480]  No, no.
[40:55.480 --> 41:01.160]  Just that it exists, that it was taken at the same time, and you don't have to state
[41:01.160 --> 41:06.960]  precisely what kind of evidence it contains, just simply that it does contain evidence.
[41:06.960 --> 41:09.680]  Should they say it contains exculpatory evidence?
[41:09.680 --> 41:10.920]  No, no.
[41:10.920 --> 41:13.320]  You don't have to qualify that at all.
[41:13.320 --> 41:19.200]  Just merely stating that it was taken at the time is sufficient.
[41:19.200 --> 41:23.880]  And sometimes it's better only to say enough.
[41:23.880 --> 41:31.960]  A lot of times, the prosecutor is looking for a reason to jump on you and argue with
[41:31.960 --> 41:32.960]  what you say.
[41:32.960 --> 41:35.360]  So try to say only as much as you have to.
[41:35.360 --> 41:39.240]  Well, I thought that they were going to say that one of the reasons for their motion to
[41:39.240 --> 41:45.080]  dismiss was the fact that they were not engaged in commerce and that this sign was not affixed
[41:45.080 --> 41:46.080]  to anything.
[41:46.080 --> 41:47.080]  Okay.
[41:47.080 --> 41:51.960]  So are you saying that they should not say that in the motion to dismiss and just wait?
[41:51.960 --> 41:53.040]  Of course not.
[41:53.040 --> 41:56.720]  But don't say, I'm not engaged in commerce, I've got this piece of information.
[41:56.720 --> 41:59.200]  I'm not engaged in commerce, I've got a video.
[41:59.200 --> 42:00.200]  You don't have to do that.
[42:00.200 --> 42:02.560]  You only have to say it as a conclusion.
[42:02.560 --> 42:05.480]  You don't have to say it in the front and in the middle or anywhere else.
[42:05.480 --> 42:06.480]  Okay.
[42:06.480 --> 42:11.360]  But would they say in the motion to dismiss that they were not violating the ordinance
[42:11.360 --> 42:14.920]  because they were not engaged in commerce and because the sign was not affixed?
[42:14.920 --> 42:16.880]  Would they say that in the motion anywhere?
[42:16.880 --> 42:20.760]  If that's the purpose of the motion, absolutely.
[42:20.760 --> 42:26.320]  Well, yeah, that would be one of the reasons for the motion to dismiss.
[42:26.320 --> 42:29.120]  You don't have to say it in order to introduce the evidence.
[42:29.120 --> 42:32.260]  Yeah, it'll be a two-pronged argument in the motion.
[42:32.260 --> 42:36.080]  The ordinance doesn't apply because of Article 3, Section 29.
[42:36.080 --> 42:39.640]  The ordinance doesn't apply because it is written for the purpose of those engaging
[42:39.640 --> 42:45.200]  in commerce with fixed signs of a this type and this type which we did not have nor we
[42:45.200 --> 42:46.200]  engaged in.
[42:46.200 --> 42:55.120]  You can do that in a conclusion of this kind that we were not engaged in as evidenced by
[42:55.120 --> 42:57.760]  Exhibit A or whatever.
[42:57.760 --> 43:01.760]  So you can use your evidence in the conclusion.
[43:01.760 --> 43:05.200]  You don't have to prove up your evidence in the front.
[43:05.200 --> 43:15.720]  You merely need to give indication that it is evidence, foundation, not proof.
[43:15.720 --> 43:20.680]  It may turn out not to be evidence, but you have foundation to present it and that's all
[43:20.680 --> 43:21.680]  you have to establish.
[43:21.680 --> 43:22.880]  It doesn't take much.
[43:22.880 --> 43:28.840]  But mainly the two reasons for the motion to dismiss are, number one, this enacting
[43:28.840 --> 43:33.680]  clause that Randy was citing and also, number two, the ordinance does not apply to them
[43:33.680 --> 43:37.200]  because they were not engaged in commerce and the sign was not affixed.
[43:37.200 --> 43:38.200]  Exactly.
[43:38.200 --> 43:41.360]  Okay, and that would be at the beginning of the motion, I would think.
[43:41.360 --> 43:47.240]  But either at the beginning or in the conclusion, the point is you don't have to qualify the
[43:47.240 --> 43:48.240]  evidence completely.
[43:48.240 --> 43:54.120]  You just have to give some kind of reason for it being evidence and that's all the
[43:54.120 --> 43:55.120]  foundation.
[43:55.120 --> 43:56.120]  Okay, we're going to break.
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[45:19.000 --> 45:25.680]  Okay we're back, all right we're talking about foundation to establish the evidence and what
[45:25.680 --> 45:32.240]  evidence exists here, exculpatory evidence that is, which is evidence that proves the
[45:32.240 --> 45:41.480]  innocence of Matt and Abel, I'm sorry, Matt and Joseph and Adam and okay so when is you
[45:41.480 --> 45:42.480]  guys' hearing?
[45:42.480 --> 45:43.480]  When's the trial?
[45:43.480 --> 45:44.480]  The seventh.
[45:44.480 --> 45:51.960]  All right so Randy, Eddie, do y'all know when is the deadline for them to submit motions
[45:51.960 --> 45:53.040]  to dismiss?
[45:53.040 --> 45:55.080]  I would think it'd be at least seven days.
[45:55.080 --> 46:01.280]  Yeah it's generally seven days before trial, yeah all motions they want them seven days
[46:01.280 --> 46:02.280]  before trial.
[46:02.280 --> 46:05.600]  I guess we got to get on it, yeah.
[46:05.600 --> 46:12.000]  Y'all got to get on it because that would be, that would be this next Wednesday.
[46:12.000 --> 46:13.000]  Yes.
[46:13.000 --> 46:18.400]  We'll probably work on the forms this week and we'll submit them you know by Monday,
[46:18.400 --> 46:21.400]  I think we should be able to do that there.
[46:21.400 --> 46:22.400]  Yeah sounds good.
[46:22.400 --> 46:25.400]  Yeah especially with us helping.
[46:25.400 --> 46:33.640]  Yeah definitely, if I can go during the day in the morning and I can turn them in.
[46:33.640 --> 46:38.960]  Yeah I got an email from Ron so I sent back a verification with my contact information
[46:38.960 --> 46:41.560]  guys so that you can get in touch with me directly.
[46:41.560 --> 46:43.160]  At willoflawradio.com?
[46:43.160 --> 46:44.160]  Yes.
[46:44.160 --> 46:45.160]  Okay.
[46:45.160 --> 46:46.160]  Okay.
[46:46.160 --> 46:53.160]  Yes and you can download the archives later tonight from this show and also the archives
[46:53.160 --> 46:58.640]  from when you guys were on a couple months ago that's, that's already available as well.
[46:58.640 --> 46:59.640]  Okay.
[46:59.640 --> 47:00.640]  That's good.
[47:00.640 --> 47:09.080]  All right so what else needs to be done here guys?
[47:09.080 --> 47:13.880]  Randy, Eddie?
[47:13.880 --> 47:17.400]  Well just go ahead Randy.
[47:17.400 --> 47:23.640]  You need to subpoena any personal recordings that the officers may have taken.
[47:23.640 --> 47:26.400]  They always have a personal recording device.
[47:26.400 --> 47:31.600]  Yeah and if possible you want to get the recording of both ends of that conversation.
[47:31.600 --> 47:35.920]  This is the reason the police officer is using their personal cell phones for these communications
[47:35.920 --> 47:38.360]  now rather than their radios.
[47:38.360 --> 47:39.760]  The radios are recorded.
[47:39.760 --> 47:41.680]  Their cell phones are not.
[47:41.680 --> 47:45.720]  So when they do what this officer was obviously doing in the video and conspiring with somebody
[47:45.720 --> 47:49.160]  on the other end, there's not normally a record of that.
[47:49.160 --> 47:50.160]  Okay.
[47:50.160 --> 47:53.320]  As you've got him on video doing that very thing.
[47:53.320 --> 47:54.320]  Right.
[47:54.320 --> 47:55.320]  Let's see.
[47:55.320 --> 48:02.560]  Well the only thing that kind of gets me is I don't have the video on my iPhone anymore
[48:02.560 --> 48:06.960]  but I use my iPhone to also videotape them and he makes the comment, he says I bet that
[48:06.960 --> 48:15.040]  camera on the streets got a better shot of your iPhone and my response to him was I don't
[48:15.040 --> 48:16.040]  care.
[48:16.040 --> 48:19.400]  So if we subpoena that then he gets to subpoena my phone, right?
[48:19.400 --> 48:20.400]  Basically?
[48:20.400 --> 48:21.400]  Yes.
[48:21.400 --> 48:22.400]  Yes.
[48:22.400 --> 48:23.400]  Well yeah.
[48:23.400 --> 48:30.200]  Yeah if you subpoenaed his and he mentions your iPhone, that's what's called foundation.
[48:30.200 --> 48:32.960]  But then he'll subpoena mine, right?
[48:32.960 --> 48:33.960]  Which means what?
[48:33.960 --> 48:34.960]  I've got to take my phone to court?
[48:34.960 --> 48:35.960]  Or is that, you know?
[48:35.960 --> 48:38.800]  They're not going to subpoena your iPhone.
[48:38.800 --> 48:43.560]  They don't want any incriminating evidence, especially if it's incriminating them.
[48:43.560 --> 48:48.400]  Is the video from your iPhone, you've already downloaded it somewhere or uploaded it somewhere,
[48:48.400 --> 48:49.400]  right?
[48:49.400 --> 48:50.400]  Yeah I think I probably have it on the phone somewhere.
[48:50.400 --> 48:51.400]  I've got to find it though.
[48:51.400 --> 48:54.920]  Well actually you know I have a YouTube clip as well with it.
[48:54.920 --> 48:56.400]  It's on my YouTube page.
[48:56.400 --> 49:00.760]  I can download that right onto a disc but I'm not sure I want to do that because I kind
[49:00.760 --> 49:10.480]  of had to with the cop myself so I'm not sure I want to, you know, but I was worried about
[49:10.480 --> 49:11.480]  that.
[49:11.480 --> 49:14.720]  I tell you, don't worry too much about the cops.
[49:14.720 --> 49:19.440]  The harder you kick them, the less they're going to want to have to do with you next
[49:19.440 --> 49:20.440]  time.
[49:20.440 --> 49:21.440]  That's what we want.
[49:21.440 --> 49:23.440]  We want them to leave us alone so we can do our activism.
[49:23.440 --> 49:29.400]  You know we didn't have a First Friday this month or last month because of this incident.
[49:29.400 --> 49:32.200]  You know or I mean not last month because this month is still coming out but last month
[49:32.200 --> 49:33.200]  we didn't have a First Friday.
[49:33.200 --> 49:35.840]  Don't let them stop you guys.
[49:35.840 --> 49:41.800]  You know we just wanted to get through this first but you know they've been after us pretty
[49:41.800 --> 49:42.800]  much.
[49:42.800 --> 49:48.520]  You know because we got this ticket on April 11th and then the following month of May,
[49:48.520 --> 49:56.640]  the first Friday of May, was the third time that we got harassed within like a month and
[49:56.640 --> 50:03.240]  it was that time when a steam officer wrote another one of our guys a ticket for soliciting
[50:03.240 --> 50:09.440]  and that's a whole nother confrontation where the officer actually gets physical with us
[50:09.440 --> 50:11.720]  and you know that was within the span of a month.
[50:11.720 --> 50:19.200]  We went from the portable banner ticket to actual solicitation so it was since that time
[50:19.200 --> 50:24.280]  we haven't really gone out on the streets to hand out any DVDs.
[50:24.280 --> 50:26.880]  So you need to go after the officers.
[50:26.880 --> 50:29.720]  We'd like them to know okay we are who we are and leave us alone.
[50:29.720 --> 50:31.440]  You know we're just going on information you know.
[50:31.440 --> 50:36.220]  They're not going to okay you got to understand they are not going to leave you alone unless
[50:36.220 --> 50:38.120]  you kick them in their teeth.
[50:38.120 --> 50:39.120]  Okay.
[50:39.120 --> 50:41.760]  They're like school yard bullies.
[50:41.760 --> 50:42.760]  Okay.
[50:42.760 --> 50:48.160]  They're going to push and they're going to push as long as they think they can and it's
[50:48.160 --> 50:51.280]  real easy to get them to stop pushing.
[50:51.280 --> 50:52.560]  Yeah.
[50:52.560 --> 50:56.640]  You take your criminal complaints and take them to the district attorney and he'll refuse
[50:56.640 --> 51:01.920]  to take them and then you make up a set of criminal complaints against the district attorney
[51:01.920 --> 51:04.440]  and go in and bushwhack a district judge.
[51:04.440 --> 51:07.520]  You're saying the district attorney won't take the complaint like if I go to the district
[51:07.520 --> 51:10.280]  attorney with complaints against the cop he's not going to take them?
[51:10.280 --> 51:11.280]  Of course not.
[51:11.280 --> 51:12.280]  Yeah.
[51:12.280 --> 51:15.000]  He's going to do his best to say I'm not doing that.
[51:15.000 --> 51:16.600]  So you want him to do that?
[51:16.600 --> 51:18.960]  Well who would take the complaints though?
[51:18.960 --> 51:19.960]  Okay.
[51:19.960 --> 51:20.960]  Let me explain.
[51:20.960 --> 51:26.960]  The jury might take them but first you might get a justice of the peace to take them.
[51:26.960 --> 51:28.960]  Justice of the peace?
[51:28.960 --> 51:29.960]  Maybe.
[51:29.960 --> 51:30.960]  Wait.
[51:30.960 --> 51:31.960]  That's not the...
[51:31.960 --> 51:32.960]  I'm going to a different point.
[51:32.960 --> 51:33.960]  Yeah.
[51:33.960 --> 51:35.760]  I know you want to get the whole system but I just want to get this cop.
[51:35.760 --> 51:37.960]  You want to get the cop to leave you alone?
[51:37.960 --> 51:38.960]  Yeah.
[51:38.960 --> 51:42.160]  You take a criminal complaint against the cop to the district attorney and he's going
[51:42.160 --> 51:47.120]  to refuse to take it and then you make up a complaint against the district attorney
[51:47.120 --> 51:56.160]  for misfeasance in office and official oppression and you take it to a district judge.
[51:56.160 --> 52:04.200]  The way you get to a district judge is you find out when the judge is having motion hearings.
[52:04.200 --> 52:09.320]  You go in the courtroom while he's having motion hearings, call his bailiff over, tell
[52:09.320 --> 52:15.040]  the bailiff your name, tell him to instruct the judge that you have business with the
[52:15.040 --> 52:22.320]  court and the bailiff will ask you the nature of the business and you say...
[52:22.320 --> 52:23.880]  You can do two things.
[52:23.880 --> 52:27.720]  You can either tell him you have business with the court and it's none of his and go
[52:27.720 --> 52:36.840]  sit down or you can hand him this criminal complaint signed before a notary and verified.
[52:36.840 --> 52:40.760]  That's what a notary is in law.
[52:40.760 --> 52:46.160]  He's going to look at it and when you hand it to him, go sit down, don't talk to him
[52:46.160 --> 52:47.160]  anymore.
[52:47.160 --> 52:48.160]  Okay.
[52:48.160 --> 52:53.240]  Then he's going to go give it to the judge and the judge is going to do some song and
[52:53.240 --> 52:55.520]  dance.
[52:55.520 --> 52:59.480]  He's either just going to tell the bailiff to tell you he's not going to take it or he's
[52:59.480 --> 53:02.640]  going to call you up and tell you that he's not going to take it and you don't care what
[53:02.640 --> 53:05.640]  he does.
[53:05.640 --> 53:14.120]  Now you go to the grand jury with criminal charges against the district judge for refusing
[53:14.120 --> 53:21.600]  to perform his magisterial duty in order to shield the district attorney from prosecution.
[53:21.600 --> 53:24.440]  I don't tell him you're a magistrate, you have to take the document.
[53:24.440 --> 53:27.680]  You can tell him but he's going to ignore you.
[53:27.680 --> 53:28.680]  I can do that.
[53:28.680 --> 53:29.680]  I've done it enough.
[53:29.680 --> 53:33.040]  I kind of got a way of getting away with it.
[53:33.040 --> 53:39.560]  The first time you go into the court, no, I don't do that, just set him up and he thinks
[53:39.560 --> 53:45.720]  he's blown you off and the next thing he knows, he finds out that you're trying to get to
[53:45.720 --> 53:51.640]  the grand jury with criminal charges against him for not taking criminal charges against
[53:51.640 --> 53:56.640]  the prosecuting attorney and he is not going to be happy with the prosecuting attorney
[53:56.640 --> 54:00.800]  for getting him into this mess and neither one of them are going to be happy with this
[54:00.800 --> 54:01.800]  police officer.
[54:01.800 --> 54:05.320]  They're not going to care if what he did was right, wrong or what have you.
[54:05.320 --> 54:10.480]  All they know is they got a problem and you caused it.
[54:10.480 --> 54:19.120]  Once you have filed against a district judge, if you go back to the courthouse or if a policeman
[54:19.120 --> 54:24.920]  anywhere does anything you don't like, like you're out there handing out banners and
[54:24.920 --> 54:30.280]  a policeman comes up and gives you some Crapola, wait a minute.
[54:30.280 --> 54:34.740]  That district judge sent you down here to harass me, didn't he?
[54:34.740 --> 54:39.200]  Just because I filed one little crummy complaint with the grand jury against him, I'll take
[54:39.200 --> 54:40.200]  care of him.
[54:40.200 --> 54:42.240]  I'll make him wish, wait until I file some more against him.
[54:42.240 --> 54:48.200]  I'll get him in prison yet, the no good scumbag and you're going to terrify this police officer.
[54:48.200 --> 54:49.200]  Okay.
[54:49.200 --> 54:55.440]  He's going to see his career pass before his eyes when the district judge gets accused
[54:55.440 --> 54:58.000]  of sending him out to harass you.
[54:58.000 --> 54:59.000]  Okay.
[54:59.000 --> 55:01.680]  This will work.
[55:01.680 --> 55:05.960]  If your only purpose is to get them to leave you alone, that's probably the best way to
[55:05.960 --> 55:06.960]  do it.
[55:06.960 --> 55:09.960]  Well, we want to have our rights, obviously.
[55:09.960 --> 55:12.240]  We could have pled no contest to pay to small people.
[55:12.240 --> 55:19.120]  We didn't do that because we're not guilty.
[55:19.120 --> 55:20.880]  This is a more subtle way.
[55:20.880 --> 55:27.440]  I tend to be a little more in their face, but it's enough if you go down and get the
[55:27.440 --> 55:29.320]  judge to refuse.
[55:29.320 --> 55:33.400]  See, the judge is a magistrate.
[55:33.400 --> 55:36.240]  Every judge in Texas is a magistrate.
[55:36.240 --> 55:41.200]  And when you present the judge with a criminal complaint, he becomes a magistrate.
[55:41.200 --> 55:47.200]  That's why I said earlier, you can't present the complaint to the clerk because no lawyer
[55:47.200 --> 55:52.360]  is required to accept the complaint.
[55:52.360 --> 55:59.860]  Magistrates are the only ones in law except a prosecuting attorney, and a prosecuting
[55:59.860 --> 56:05.880]  attorney is only required to accept a complaint when it's against a public official.
[56:05.880 --> 56:10.000]  Otherwise, all complaints are directed to some magistrate.
[56:10.000 --> 56:17.320]  If somebody brings a complaint to the prosecuting attorney, 205 directs him to present it to
[56:17.320 --> 56:18.320]  some magistrate.
[56:18.320 --> 56:23.640]  A police officer, when he hasn't reasonably the crimes been committed, he's to present
[56:23.640 --> 56:25.560]  the complaint to some magistrate.
[56:25.560 --> 56:28.200]  Everything directs it to a magistrate.
[56:28.200 --> 56:35.160]  And when you present a complaint to a judge, you invoke his duty as a magistrate.
[56:35.160 --> 56:40.960]  And I really like to tell them that, and that that is a duty from which they may not shield
[56:40.960 --> 56:41.960]  themselves.
[56:41.960 --> 56:45.280]  Now, you don't have to tell them that.
[56:45.280 --> 56:50.840]  It's actually pretty powerful to go in and ask him to take it.
[56:50.840 --> 56:57.680]  And he refuses, and you go away, and he thinks he's won this little encounter, until he finds
[56:57.680 --> 57:00.800]  out you're trying to present complaints against him to the grand jury.
[57:00.800 --> 57:07.160]  And he's going to say, that no good rascal set me up.
[57:07.160 --> 57:11.080]  And that's going to make them even more leery of you because they never know what you're
[57:11.080 --> 57:13.360]  setting them up for next.
[57:13.360 --> 57:19.600]  And when the policeman come out, and you accuse him of being sent by the district judge, you
[57:19.600 --> 57:20.600]  just watch.
[57:20.600 --> 57:25.760]  You want to see a policeman's face turn white, you accuse him of that, and you'll get to
[57:25.760 --> 57:26.760]  see it.
[57:26.760 --> 57:30.160]  I know I've been there, I've done that.
[57:30.160 --> 57:31.160]  It does work.
[57:31.160 --> 57:36.720]  Now, Randy, would all of this be done, would this be good to wait until after this court
[57:36.720 --> 57:40.520]  date, or should they start on this ahead of time, or what?
[57:40.520 --> 57:42.520]  Yeah, ahead of time.
[57:42.520 --> 57:51.520]  Because now you're really bad news, and gives this court more reason to dismiss your case
[57:51.520 --> 57:57.560]  to get you to go away, because you're causing, they're like bullies in the high school parking
[57:57.560 --> 57:58.560]  lot.
[57:58.560 --> 58:05.200]  Actually, these municipal courts are just there to generate money.
[58:05.200 --> 58:10.360]  And what exactly are the charges against the officers in this case?
[58:10.360 --> 58:15.320]  Criminal oppression, aggravated assault, false imprisonment, we've got a whole stack of them.
[58:15.320 --> 58:16.320]  Criminal conspiracy.
[58:16.320 --> 58:26.760]  Aggravated exposure, tampering with government documents, too many, it's easy to get too
[58:26.760 --> 58:27.760]  many.
[58:27.760 --> 58:31.960]  All right, do you want to discuss the criminal charges on the other side, specifically?
[58:31.960 --> 58:34.880]  Oh yeah, that'll be a lot of fun.
[58:34.880 --> 58:39.120]  Okay, Joseph, Matt, if you want to hang on, we'll discuss the criminal charges specifically
[58:39.120 --> 58:42.920]  against these officers on the other side, and then we'll start taking calls from the
[58:42.920 --> 58:43.920]  audience.
[58:43.920 --> 58:51.080]  512-646-1984 is the call-in number, we're going to finish up with Joseph and Matt from
[58:51.080 --> 58:54.960]  We Are Change San Antonio, right on the other side, as soon as we get back, this is the
[58:54.960 --> 59:13.360]  rule of law, Raina Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
[59:13.360 --> 59:41.720]  All right, let's get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[59:41.720 --> 01:00:10.280]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:30.080]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:54.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:15.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:36.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:57.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:18.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:39.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:02:39.880 --> 01:03:00.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:28.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:53.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:03:53.880 --> 01:04:20.880]  and then we'll get back to the call-in number, and then we'll get back to the call-in number,
[01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.940]  Johnson and it was just, it was just fantastic.
[01:04:23.940 --> 01:04:25.640]  Alex Jones, everybody was there.
[01:04:25.640 --> 01:04:27.140]  It was just a fantastic event.
[01:04:27.140 --> 01:04:30.720]  We broadcast live on the internet here,
[01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:33.800]  rule of law radio and on multiple FM and AM stations
[01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:34.640]  around the country.
[01:04:34.640 --> 01:04:36.860]  So it was great to work with you guys back then.
[01:04:36.860 --> 01:04:39.760]  So yeah, we definitely want to help any way we can.
[01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.440]  Okay, we're going to discuss now the specific criminal
[01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.720]  charges against these police officers.
[01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:47.920]  So Randy, you want to get into that?
[01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:52.920]  Well, since they weren't violating any laws,
[01:04:55.160 --> 01:05:00.160]  you were approached by a man who was prominently displaying
[01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:04.920]  a deadly weapon and he arrested you.
[01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:08.160]  Yes, you had to be arrested
[01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:10.180]  before you could sign the citation.
[01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.840]  So in Texas, there is no false imprisonment statute.
[01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.840]  There is a cause of action for false imprisonment,
[01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:24.600]  but no false imprisonment statute.
[01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:26.240]  The statute is kidnapping.
[01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:30.600]  And if someone restricts you at your liberty,
[01:05:33.140 --> 01:05:37.960]  illegally, whilst displaying a deadly weapon,
[01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:39.560]  that's aggravated kidnapping.
[01:05:41.520 --> 01:05:43.360]  We didn't make it up.
[01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:44.580]  We just read the law.
[01:05:44.580 --> 01:05:49.580]  And if he filled out a government document
[01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:52.840]  and put on that government document,
[01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.040]  a statement he knew to be true
[01:05:55.040 --> 01:06:00.040]  and a material statement of fact he knew to be untrue
[01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.780]  and intended that it be taken as true,
[01:06:03.640 --> 01:06:07.480]  that violates 3710 Penal Code,
[01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.760]  tampering with the government document.
[01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:15.760]  And he claimed authority, which he did not have.
[01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.880]  That violates 3711 Penal Code,
[01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:20.420]  personating a public official.
[01:06:22.460 --> 01:06:23.560]  What else can we do, Eddie?
[01:06:23.560 --> 01:06:25.360]  There's a whole bunch more.
[01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.160]  The abuse of official capacity.
[01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:29.000]  You get to charge him for the value
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.800]  of every piece of governmental equipment he was using
[01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:33.760]  to commit the crime in question.
[01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:35.960]  If the value exceeds $1,500,
[01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:38.420]  it becomes a state jail felony.
[01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:42.680]  You get to go after him for official oppression.
[01:06:42.680 --> 01:06:45.720]  He's using his governmental authority and power of office
[01:06:45.720 --> 01:06:49.340]  to deprive you of a constitutionally protected right.
[01:06:49.340 --> 01:06:53.100]  And you get to press that charge for each right he violated,
[01:06:53.100 --> 01:06:56.600]  which would be your false imprisonment for loss of liberty,
[01:06:56.600 --> 01:06:58.320]  your right to free speech,
[01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:02.880]  to be free from unlawful search and seizure.
[01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.080]  That's at least three of that charge,
[01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:09.640]  in particular on one officer.
[01:07:09.640 --> 01:07:11.240]  Wow.
[01:07:11.240 --> 01:07:14.600]  Now, the aggravated perjury comes in, once again,
[01:07:14.600 --> 01:07:17.560]  because of the falsification of the government document.
[01:07:17.560 --> 01:07:20.140]  So not only has he falsified the document,
[01:07:20.140 --> 01:07:21.880]  but he's committed aggravated perjury
[01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.560]  by accusing you of a set of facts that he knew to be false.
[01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:31.040]  Yes, when he put the statement on the government document
[01:07:31.040 --> 01:07:34.000]  that he knew was untrue, that was tampering.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  But when he presented that document to the court under oath,
[01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.280]  that was a separate crime, aggravated perjury,
[01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:43.440]  so we get them both.
[01:07:45.640 --> 01:07:46.920]  Is this fun or what?
[01:07:48.720 --> 01:07:50.560]  You can see how quickly,
[01:07:50.560 --> 01:07:52.240]  see, this is exactly what they do
[01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:54.360]  when they charge us with something.
[01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.280]  They look at the angles they could approach it from
[01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.400]  to see just how many they could put on
[01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.560]  in case one of them fails, they've got fallbacks.
[01:08:03.560 --> 01:08:05.000]  Okay?
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:06.280]  The thing about it is,
[01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.300]  is everything that we're sitting here telling you,
[01:08:08.300 --> 01:08:13.300]  they have met every single statutory element of the crime
[01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.160]  because we've studied those crimes
[01:08:16.160 --> 01:08:18.400]  and every single thing they're doing
[01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:21.040]  meets all of the necessary criteria
[01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:23.400]  to constitute the commission of that act.
[01:08:25.080 --> 01:08:27.360]  We're not making them up just to have them,
[01:08:27.360 --> 01:08:28.720]  they simply did it.
[01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:29.560]  Right.
[01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:33.400]  Right.
[01:08:39.320 --> 01:08:41.480]  Yeah, it's about time we start going back afterwards.
[01:08:41.480 --> 01:08:43.920]  There will be more available, I guarantee you.
[01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:51.000]  Why don't you guys give out the URL of the YouTube videos?
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:52.920]  The folks can go on and see what happened.
[01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.400]  Yeah, let me look it up real quick here.
[01:08:56.360 --> 01:08:57.200]  Make sure you email that.
[01:08:57.200 --> 01:08:59.440]  You gotta give the title of it.
[01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:02.320]  Yeah, the title so people could do a search on YouTube.
[01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:06.120]  Yeah, Nazi police.
[01:09:06.120 --> 01:09:11.120]  Yeah, Nazi police kill 9-11 truth, truth, free speech.
[01:09:11.400 --> 01:09:12.240]  Right.
[01:09:12.240 --> 01:09:14.160]  And it's in four parts, the first part,
[01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:20.520]  you know, that's where you can see the banner on the floor
[01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:23.320]  and you can see the sign with the street DVDs
[01:09:23.320 --> 01:09:24.800]  and you can see him walk up.
[01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.360]  And by the fourth video, he's handing us the tickets
[01:09:28.360 --> 01:09:32.080]  and we're signing for them and he's data mining us,
[01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:33.920]  asking us if we have monthly meetings
[01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:35.720]  and asking us where we work.
[01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.400]  Were you all answering any of those questions?
[01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:39.920]  Joseph and Adam were.
[01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:41.760]  Yeah, some of them, yeah.
[01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.040]  You don't have to tell him anything.
[01:09:44.040 --> 01:09:45.840]  Well, I didn't tell him we had monthly meetings.
[01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.760]  I didn't tell him about Facebook or anything like that.
[01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.440]  I just said, well, obviously, we do meet
[01:09:50.440 --> 01:09:53.080]  with cell phones, but that's kinda how I answered that one.
[01:09:53.080 --> 01:09:55.960]  But then he answered other questions and stuff, though.
[01:09:57.560 --> 01:09:58.840]  Yeah, well, you never have to answer
[01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.600]  any of those people's questions.
[01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:03.800]  What he's trying to do, guys, is he's right.
[01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.360]  He's data mining you.
[01:10:05.360 --> 01:10:08.400]  He is trying to find comments that you can make
[01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:11.480]  that he is recording on that personal recording device
[01:10:11.480 --> 01:10:13.920]  that's linked back to home base,
[01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.320]  that he's trying to get you guys to admit to the elements
[01:10:17.320 --> 01:10:20.160]  of what he needs to make his charges stand.
[01:10:20.160 --> 01:10:21.000]  That's right.
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.480]  So, we did burn the videos, yeah.
[01:10:24.480 --> 01:10:27.280]  He's not engaged in conversation with these guys.
[01:10:27.280 --> 01:10:29.920]  You don't have to answer any of the questions at all.
[01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.680]  Yeah, and that's what actually the whole incident,
[01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.040]  he's trying to do, and he's trying really hard.
[01:10:35.040 --> 01:10:36.920]  You can see in the first few videos.
[01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:37.880]  The fishing push stuff.
[01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:38.720]  Yeah.
[01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:39.560]  Yeah.
[01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:43.480]  It was like 33,000 views, the first one on YouTube.
[01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:49.160]  Yeah, and then when we went to court to report for our tickets,
[01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:51.680]  we made a video of that, and...
[01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:52.800]  That's on there, too.
[01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:54.920]  Yeah, the name of that video is to pick it up.
[01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:58.800]  They read Nazi police.
[01:10:58.800 --> 01:10:59.640]  And you know what?
[01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.520]  When we went to court to report for the tickets,
[01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:04.400]  it's funny because as soon as we walk in,
[01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:06.120]  and I went through the metal detectors,
[01:11:06.120 --> 01:11:08.920]  one of the officers in there, or the bailiffs,
[01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.680]  whatever you call him, but he's like an officer suit.
[01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.160]  He asked me for my name, and I told him my name,
[01:11:15.160 --> 01:11:18.680]  and then he walks away, and my wife heard him get on his radio
[01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:22.400]  on his shoulder and say, yeah, Matthew and them are here.
[01:11:22.400 --> 01:11:24.200]  And then after a couple minutes,
[01:11:24.200 --> 01:11:28.160]  police come and actually started escorting us everywhere.
[01:11:28.160 --> 01:11:29.400]  We're going around the courthouse,
[01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:32.160]  and when we get in the courtroom, they're right behind us.
[01:11:32.160 --> 01:11:35.960]  When we go to the judge's desk, but the judge wasn't there,
[01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:36.800]  we talked to the clerk.
[01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.400]  I mean, the officer's right behind us,
[01:11:38.400 --> 01:11:41.880]  and we were literally followed everywhere we went.
[01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.240]  And they made my wife and Bonita sit in the hallway,
[01:11:45.240 --> 01:11:48.240]  and that's where they overheard the officers talking
[01:11:48.240 --> 01:11:49.920]  about, yeah, they're in there.
[01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:52.120]  These women are here with them.
[01:11:52.120 --> 01:11:54.920]  And so we had that kind of tension on us.
[01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:56.040]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:59.000]  They wouldn't let your wife and other people
[01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.560]  into the courtroom?
[01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.600]  Yeah, and Bonita brought that up to the officers.
[01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:04.680]  She said, yeah, we do.
[01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:05.920]  We have that right.
[01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:09.320]  And they were denied that, and that's what happened.
[01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:10.040]  And she went up.
[01:12:10.040 --> 01:12:11.840]  There's another set of criminal charges now.
[01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.000]  Yeah, yeah, that's totally illegal.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:16.520]  They can't.
[01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:18.680]  I mean, that's what we dealt with just to go
[01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:19.600]  and plead not guilty.
[01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:25.040]  So when we go back to the actual court date,
[01:12:25.040 --> 01:12:26.680]  all eyes are going to be on us, and they're
[01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:28.520]  going to be trying to pull some shady stuff.
[01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.480]  Well, yeah, I think definitely some criminal charges
[01:12:31.480 --> 01:12:34.800]  need to be filed for restricting access to public building,
[01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.560]  restricting access to the court beforehand so that they
[01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:39.080]  don't try to pull that again.
[01:12:39.080 --> 01:12:42.800]  Well, that's also a constitutional violation charge
[01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:47.800]  because all courts are to be public,
[01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.680]  and so they cannot deny the public access to that court.
[01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:56.520]  And what is this corresponding statute, do you know?
[01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.920]  Article 1.24, Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:06.760]  It says all courts shall be public.
[01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:08.560]  That's not hard to understand.
[01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.240]  OK, so anyone who denies access to the public court,
[01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:16.360]  is that a felony, or what kind of an offense is that?
[01:13:16.360 --> 01:13:18.400]  It's an act of official oppression, class A
[01:13:18.400 --> 01:13:23.400]  misdemeanor, 39.03 penal code.
[01:13:23.400 --> 01:13:25.040]  Unless you had the cost of the building
[01:13:25.040 --> 01:13:26.840]  where he committed the act, and then it's
[01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:28.680]  a first degree felony.
[01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:31.760]  OK, so you guys need to know that when y'all go in again
[01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.800]  and all the people that go with you bring in court watchers.
[01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.400]  If they try to deny, then let them
[01:13:38.400 --> 01:13:41.280]  know that criminal charges are going to be filed.
[01:13:41.280 --> 01:13:44.640]  Well, hopefully, on that date, a large number
[01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.120]  of the We Are Changed crew will be there on that court date.
[01:13:47.120 --> 01:13:49.520]  And it won't just be those three.
[01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.320]  People will be there, too, hopefully.
[01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:00.880]  But tell them, hey, it's illegal what you're doing, right?
[01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:02.080]  I'm sorry, say that again?
[01:14:02.080 --> 01:14:04.400]  Well, just tell them it's illegal what they're doing,
[01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:06.240]  if they tell them that they can't come in court.
[01:14:06.240 --> 01:14:10.920]  Well, you can cite the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:15.560]  Article 1.204, is that what you said, Randy?
[01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:17.320]  1.24.
[01:14:17.320 --> 01:14:24.800]  1.24.
[01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.200]  Incredible.
[01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:28.120]  And in Williamson County, they take it
[01:14:28.120 --> 01:14:29.560]  as far as to have a sign.
[01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:34.080]  They have a sign in the hallway, of all things.
[01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:35.960]  People can't bring friends and family in.
[01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:38.560]  I mean, this is how outrageous the situation has gotten.
[01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:40.000]  Can't put up with it anymore.
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.280]  Just cannot put up with it anymore.
[01:14:42.280 --> 01:14:45.080]  Oh, yes, speaking of which, to all our listeners out there
[01:14:45.080 --> 01:14:48.560]  that are around Williamson County, if you will, please,
[01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:54.360]  get pictures of that sign, if at all possible, and everything.
[01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:56.080]  Because in this second thing that I'm
[01:14:56.080 --> 01:14:58.960]  writing to go and address the legislature with,
[01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.160]  I want that information in this material when it's presented.
[01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.840]  What city is Williamson County?
[01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:10.960]  Well, that's a combination of Round Rock, Pflugerville,
[01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:14.440]  Georgetown, Williamson County, notoriously
[01:15:14.440 --> 01:15:17.080]  the most corrupt county in the state of Texas,
[01:15:17.080 --> 01:15:19.640]  maybe in the entire country.
[01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:20.880]  Wow.
[01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:21.440]  Yeah.
[01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:24.360]  Everybody knows about Wilco from the East Coast
[01:15:24.360 --> 01:15:26.680]  to the West Coast, that's for sure.
[01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:28.240]  I mean, there's corruption everywhere,
[01:15:28.240 --> 01:15:31.760]  but it's about as bad as it gets up there.
[01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:33.600]  And it stems from the Sheriff's Department,
[01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:37.800]  so it is really bad.
[01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:40.960]  My friend Jeff Davis has been documenting
[01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.240]  the corruption in Williamson County for over 20 years.
[01:15:44.240 --> 01:15:46.160]  He's got thousands of testimonials.
[01:15:46.160 --> 01:15:50.480]  He's got hundreds of hours of video footage of victims.
[01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:53.360]  It's incredible.
[01:15:53.360 --> 01:15:55.240]  All right, guys, any closing comments?
[01:15:55.240 --> 01:15:58.760]  Have we about answered all your questions so far tonight?
[01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.960]  Yeah, I believe so.
[01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:01.760]  Yeah, I believe so.
[01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:05.520]  Joseph pretty much asked all the same questions that I had.
[01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.000]  All right, very good.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.640]  And we appreciate this, Jeff.
[01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:11.360]  Oh, of course.
[01:16:11.360 --> 01:16:12.280]  Oh, that's for sure.
[01:16:12.280 --> 01:16:13.640]  Of course.
[01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:15.160]  Guys are our family.
[01:16:15.160 --> 01:16:19.920]  Yeah, now, the dates between 8 AM and 8 AM's one case,
[01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.440]  I think mine's at 9, and Matthew's yours at 10?
[01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:23.840]  Yeah, mine's at 10.
[01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:25.400]  So I'm not going to put it between 8, 10.
[01:16:25.400 --> 01:16:26.840]  Anyone that comes here to support me,
[01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.360]  that would be good, you know.
[01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:30.880]  Absolutely.
[01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:31.680]  Absolutely.
[01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.960]  Anybody in the San Antonio region?
[01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.080]  And this would be July 7.
[01:16:36.080 --> 01:16:37.880]  And what courthouse?
[01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.440]  The Frio Street, not Frio Street,
[01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:41.720]  it's called the Municipal Court.
[01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:44.120]  In the last video that Matthew mentioned,
[01:16:44.120 --> 01:16:46.280]  we have a photo shot of it there,
[01:16:46.280 --> 01:16:48.280]  but it's on the Frio Street there.
[01:16:48.280 --> 01:16:49.040]  OK.
[01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:51.000]  Downtown UTSA campus.
[01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.440]  All right, give out your website real quick, Matt.
[01:16:53.440 --> 01:16:54.960]  San Antonio Truth.org.
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[01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:22.440]  We're going to go to Gayle in Minnesota.
[01:20:22.440 --> 01:20:23.440]  Gayle, thanks for calling in.
[01:20:23.440 --> 01:20:25.440]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:20:25.440 --> 01:20:26.440]  Hey, hi.
[01:20:26.440 --> 01:20:28.440]  Thanks for taking my call.
[01:20:28.440 --> 01:20:35.440]  I am in the middle of trying to deflect the trial that they have
[01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:37.440]  scheduled for the 29th.
[01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:40.440]  I've done a recusal to the judge.
[01:20:40.440 --> 01:20:47.440]  I've got papers from Randy for removal to federal from the
[01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:49.440]  district court.
[01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:54.440]  But everything I've read seems to say that only the defendant can
[01:20:54.440 --> 01:20:55.440]  do a removal.
[01:20:55.440 --> 01:20:57.440]  And I'm the plaintiff.
[01:20:57.440 --> 01:21:01.440]  So I'm wondering what I can do with this.
[01:21:01.440 --> 01:21:06.440]  I just need to get out from under this trial because it's going to be
[01:21:06.440 --> 01:21:07.440]  a hanging.
[01:21:07.440 --> 01:21:13.440]  It's a kangaroo court.
[01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:15.440]  That's correct.
[01:21:15.440 --> 01:21:19.440]  I was, when I sent that to you, I wasn't thinking you were the
[01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:20.440]  plaintiff.
[01:21:20.440 --> 01:21:22.440]  You were the original plaintiff.
[01:21:22.440 --> 01:21:23.440]  Yeah.
[01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:24.440]  So you picked a venue.
[01:21:24.440 --> 01:21:31.440]  But now you're making federal accusations.
[01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:33.440]  So should she file in federal court then?
[01:21:33.440 --> 01:21:36.440]  That's what I'm thinking, how best to handle this.
[01:21:36.440 --> 01:21:44.440]  Since she filed in, since it is a family court issue, she may not be
[01:21:44.440 --> 01:21:46.440]  able to move it to the federal court.
[01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:56.440]  Unless there's some causes of action at the federal level of alleged
[01:21:56.440 --> 01:21:57.440]  crimes.
[01:21:57.440 --> 01:22:02.440]  Yeah, the crimes she can initiate in the federal court, but she can't
[01:22:02.440 --> 01:22:04.440]  move the family issue to the federal court.
[01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:08.440]  No, but she could have a separate lawsuit in the federal court that's
[01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:10.440]  like a civil suit.
[01:22:10.440 --> 01:22:15.440]  And if she filed a civil suit with accusations against the judge, then
[01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:19.440]  you could come back and disqualify the judge.
[01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:22.440]  This is what I've done right now.
[01:22:22.440 --> 01:22:26.440]  So today I wrote a criminal complaint against the judge.
[01:22:26.440 --> 01:22:33.440]  And I'm ready to, I wanted to ask you, I am ready to fax that over and
[01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:37.440]  mail it to the judicial conduct, but we know they don't do anything.
[01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:42.440]  But then in the Minnesota Constitution, it says that the legislature is
[01:22:42.440 --> 01:22:46.440]  supposed to have oversight to be able to impeach or remove judges.
[01:22:46.440 --> 01:22:51.440]  So I thought if I cede the judicial oversight office of the legislative
[01:22:51.440 --> 01:22:56.440]  branch, I don't know if that will even do anything, but if I have an
[01:22:56.440 --> 01:22:59.440]  actual criminal complaint, will that stop this judge?
[01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:00.440]  No.
[01:23:00.440 --> 01:23:05.440]  You're talking about the legislature that said that judges don't have to
[01:23:05.440 --> 01:23:08.440]  pay any attention to legislation.
[01:23:08.440 --> 01:23:11.440]  Yeah, true.
[01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:15.440]  Minnesota is about as corrupt as it gets.
[01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:16.440]  Yep.
[01:23:16.440 --> 01:23:20.440]  My only choices are the legislator or the attorney general who has already
[01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:24.440]  discussed me and told me that they don't deal with anything unless it
[01:23:24.440 --> 01:23:32.440]  affects the populace at large.
[01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:36.440]  Well, a corrupt court would do that, but still.
[01:23:36.440 --> 01:23:43.440]  There's got to be something to get these gears, the teeth stopped.
[01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:47.440]  I mean, I am just, I don't know what else to do.
[01:23:47.440 --> 01:23:52.440]  And the recusal, which he should have to recuse because he has broken all
[01:23:52.440 --> 01:23:53.440]  kinds of laws.
[01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:57.440]  I've done change of venue because I'm out of the district, I'm out of that
[01:23:57.440 --> 01:24:02.440]  county, but he's acting like he's not even getting my mailings.
[01:24:02.440 --> 01:24:07.440]  Now I've written up the criminal complaint and I read the stuff on removal,
[01:24:07.440 --> 01:24:10.440]  but I can't remove because I'm the plaintiff.
[01:24:10.440 --> 01:24:17.440]  I even wondered if I should just withdraw my legal separation so that I'm
[01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:20.440]  no longer plaintiff, but I think I'd still be held as plaintiff because of
[01:24:20.440 --> 01:24:25.440]  his cross complaint.
[01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:32.440]  Yes, I think you would still be stopped in the venue because anyway you have
[01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:38.440]  30 days, even if you're defendant, you only have 30 days to remove.
[01:24:38.440 --> 01:24:42.440]  I was brain dead when I talked to you and sent that to you.
[01:24:42.440 --> 01:24:47.440]  I may have wasted a lot of your time.
[01:24:47.440 --> 01:24:51.440]  Removal is not an option, I suspect.
[01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:54.440]  Yeah, I think only defendant can remove.
[01:24:54.440 --> 01:24:56.440]  Yeah.
[01:24:56.440 --> 01:25:02.440]  Well, Gail, have you considered trying to get an advocacy group on your side
[01:25:02.440 --> 01:25:07.440]  to apply some sort of political activist pressure to this situation?
[01:25:07.440 --> 01:25:11.440]  You know, like a mother's rights association or something like that?
[01:25:11.440 --> 01:25:15.440]  Because I mean it's pretty obvious here that what's going on is that you got
[01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:21.440]  your corrupt ex who's paying off the judge with big bucks and you don't have
[01:25:21.440 --> 01:25:28.440]  big bucks and the whole system is so corrupt and so if there's no way to get
[01:25:28.440 --> 01:25:33.440]  this into the federal court system, you may want to consider figuring out a way
[01:25:33.440 --> 01:25:38.440]  to apply some political pressure to the situation through an advocacy group
[01:25:38.440 --> 01:25:41.440]  or even like the ACLU or something.
[01:25:41.440 --> 01:25:50.440]  I can try but this is pretty, I mean we're talking Tuesday and it's Thursday night.
[01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:52.440]  Sorry.
[01:25:52.440 --> 01:25:57.440]  And I mean it's just like I really believed he would have to recuse because he
[01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:03.440]  has violated law, I cited criminal, I mean I cited judicial code and everything
[01:26:03.440 --> 01:26:08.440]  else he's violated and he just acted like I was not even a mat on the back of a
[01:26:08.440 --> 01:26:13.440]  buffalo.
[01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:16.440]  Yeah, but this is going to hurt him.
[01:26:16.440 --> 01:26:20.440]  They're always going to act that way especially when you're getting to them.
[01:26:20.440 --> 01:26:25.440]  The last thing they want you to know is what you're doing is working.
[01:26:25.440 --> 01:26:31.440]  The problem is if they roll that trial on Tuesday, I have no witnesses, I have
[01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:37.440]  no exhibit list because I was told he would absolutely, undoubtedly have to
[01:26:37.440 --> 01:26:38.440]  recuse.
[01:26:38.440 --> 01:26:43.440]  Now I'm out hanging in midair, I'm the plaintiff, I have no witnesses, I have
[01:26:43.440 --> 01:26:45.440]  no exhibit list.
[01:26:45.440 --> 01:26:49.440]  The man is not recusing and I'm thinking what an idiot, why did I expect he
[01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:50.440]  has to recuse?
[01:26:50.440 --> 01:26:55.440]  I don't understand, Randy, why did she, Gail, why did you file a motion to
[01:26:55.440 --> 01:27:00.440]  recuse instead of a motion to disqualify?
[01:27:00.440 --> 01:27:06.440]  Because disqualification is very specific.
[01:27:06.440 --> 01:27:11.440]  She doesn't have enough specific reasons for disqualification?
[01:27:11.440 --> 01:27:18.440]  No, to disqualify, disqualification is generally constitutional and it's very
[01:27:18.440 --> 01:27:21.440]  specific on what you can disqualify for.
[01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:28.440]  He has to have an interest, the fact that he is not a fair judge is not grounds
[01:27:28.440 --> 01:27:30.440]  for disqualification.
[01:27:30.440 --> 01:27:33.440]  What are the grounds for recusal?
[01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:36.440]  Impartial.
[01:27:36.440 --> 01:27:39.440]  He can make a determination on recusal.
[01:27:39.440 --> 01:27:42.440]  How is he impartial?
[01:27:42.440 --> 01:27:47.440]  It took me five filings of contempt of court before he'd even hear my filing
[01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:54.440]  and then even though my husband was $65,000 behind me by choice, by intent, the
[01:27:54.440 --> 01:27:57.440]  judge determined that he was not in contempt of court.
[01:27:57.440 --> 01:27:59.440]  That's just one example.
[01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:03.440]  Then the judge, how about this, the judge took our marital home even though the
[01:28:03.440 --> 01:28:08.440]  children and I had to move out because of the stachybactis mold that my husband
[01:28:08.440 --> 01:28:14.440]  left us in and he was the premier mold and mildew restorer in the state.
[01:28:14.440 --> 01:28:17.440]  He's the one that was educated and knew how deadly it was.
[01:28:17.440 --> 01:28:18.440]  I didn't know.
[01:28:18.440 --> 01:28:21.440]  We had to move out because of the toxicity.
[01:28:21.440 --> 01:28:28.440]  I expect the judge would make him pay for rehabilitating it, for treating it.
[01:28:28.440 --> 01:28:29.440]  The judge didn't.
[01:28:29.440 --> 01:28:33.440]  The judge didn't even make him make up the difference in my spousal maintenance.
[01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:35.440]  What did the judge do over my objections?
[01:28:35.440 --> 01:28:41.440]  He took that property, gave it to my husband to sell, quote, without the
[01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:44.440]  consent or cooperation of the plaintiff.
[01:28:44.440 --> 01:28:46.440]  I'm on deed.
[01:28:46.440 --> 01:28:47.440]  Excuse me, I'm on deed.
[01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:50.440]  He can't do that, but he did and he ordered it.
[01:28:50.440 --> 01:28:55.440]  Then he went a step farther and he ordered that my husband no longer had to
[01:28:55.440 --> 01:28:56.440]  pay the mortgage.
[01:28:56.440 --> 01:28:58.440]  That's a private contract.
[01:28:58.440 --> 01:28:59.440]  The judge has no idea.
[01:28:59.440 --> 01:29:02.440]  Well, yeah, that's typical, Gayle, in family court.
[01:29:02.440 --> 01:29:08.440]  The judges will do things like they'll award the credit card debt to one person
[01:29:08.440 --> 01:29:12.440]  and then they'll award the mortgage to the other person and all these sorts of
[01:29:12.440 --> 01:29:15.440]  things, but that's just an order for a gentlemanly agreement.
[01:29:15.440 --> 01:29:19.440]  They can't actually order those things because, like you said, it's still a
[01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:25.440]  private contract between the lender and the landee, the lender and the borrower.
[01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:29.440]  It's still a private contract between whoever took out the credit card.
[01:29:29.440 --> 01:29:33.440]  That really has no force and effect in law.
[01:29:33.440 --> 01:29:40.440]  That's just the judge saying here's how this needs to be handled, but there's
[01:29:40.440 --> 01:29:42.440]  nothing really in law that can force that.
[01:29:42.440 --> 01:29:43.440]  Wait a minute.
[01:29:43.440 --> 01:29:46.440]  It's going to seem like it has force and effect when her husband sells her out.
[01:29:46.440 --> 01:29:50.440]  Okay, well then she has grounds to file a civil suit against him because she's
[01:29:50.440 --> 01:29:52.440]  on the deed.
[01:29:52.440 --> 01:30:00.440]  Those family court rulings won't hold up against the deed.
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[01:31:57.440 --> 01:32:01.440]  Okay, we're back.
[01:32:01.440 --> 01:32:06.440]  Yeah, Gail, so we were discussing a number of things on the break,
[01:32:06.440 --> 01:32:10.440]  and as far as, you know, your husband's selling the property,
[01:32:10.440 --> 01:32:13.440]  you know, he's not selling the property.
[01:32:13.440 --> 01:32:16.440]  He's selling the property.
[01:32:16.440 --> 01:32:20.440]  He's selling the property on the break, and as far as, you know,
[01:32:20.440 --> 01:32:23.440]  your husband's selling the property when you're on the deed,
[01:32:23.440 --> 01:32:28.440]  obviously he cannot do that even if the judge allegedly so-called orders it.
[01:32:28.440 --> 01:32:33.440]  I mean, all these kinds of orders that come down from family court judges
[01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:36.440]  are really just, they're bogus.
[01:32:36.440 --> 01:32:39.440]  It's just like, okay, here's how we're going to divvy things up,
[01:32:39.440 --> 01:32:42.440]  and it basically boils down to a gentleman's agreement,
[01:32:42.440 --> 01:32:45.440]  because if somebody signs a mortgage,
[01:32:45.440 --> 01:32:49.440]  they're the ones to pay the borrower, and whoever owes the credit card debt,
[01:32:49.440 --> 01:32:52.440]  they're the ones that sign the contract with the credit card company,
[01:32:52.440 --> 01:32:54.440]  even if the judge switches it all around.
[01:32:54.440 --> 01:32:59.440]  It's mainly just a gentleman's agreement as to how things get divvied up,
[01:32:59.440 --> 01:33:06.440]  but when push comes to shove, if your ex sells the property against your consents
[01:33:06.440 --> 01:33:10.440]  when you're on the deed, that is a crime, okay?
[01:33:10.440 --> 01:33:12.440]  And criminal charges can be pressed on that,
[01:33:12.440 --> 01:33:19.440]  and even whoever would buy would be in danger of committing a crime as well.
[01:33:19.440 --> 01:33:22.440]  I mean, I'll tell you what, if I was buying a house,
[01:33:22.440 --> 01:33:27.440]  I would want to see the signature of both or whoever was on the deed,
[01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:31.440]  and if I didn't see the signature relinquishing the property
[01:33:31.440 --> 01:33:34.440]  of everyone who's on the deed, I wouldn't buy the house,
[01:33:34.440 --> 01:33:39.440]  so I have a feeling that they're going to have a hard time selling that house anyway
[01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:40.440]  without your consent.
[01:33:40.440 --> 01:33:45.440]  I think they would have a hard time finding a real estate broker to broker that deal,
[01:33:45.440 --> 01:33:49.440]  because even the real estate agent could lose a license over such a thing.
[01:33:49.440 --> 01:33:51.440]  I just don't see that happening,
[01:33:51.440 --> 01:33:55.440]  because now you're getting people in the private sector involved in this,
[01:33:55.440 --> 01:33:59.440]  and they're going to, like I said, even a real estate broker is going to know,
[01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:03.440]  this is trouble if she's not willing to sign off on the deed, okay?
[01:34:03.440 --> 01:34:08.440]  And we're also on the break talking about how to make this federal,
[01:34:08.440 --> 01:34:14.440]  and Eddie, you had some ideas about that.
[01:34:14.440 --> 01:34:17.440]  Eddie?
[01:34:17.440 --> 01:34:18.440]  Yeah, I'm here.
[01:34:18.440 --> 01:34:21.440]  You can file a criminal complaint with the Department of Justice
[01:34:21.440 --> 01:34:24.440]  for official misconduct.
[01:34:24.440 --> 01:34:29.440]  Normally they investigate police officers for use of excessive force violations
[01:34:29.440 --> 01:34:31.440]  and corruption and things of that nature,
[01:34:31.440 --> 01:34:35.440]  but that's what you're dealing with here is just a judicial official
[01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:37.440]  instead of a police officer.
[01:34:37.440 --> 01:34:41.440]  Violation of state and federal law is a violation of state and federal law,
[01:34:41.440 --> 01:34:43.440]  any way you slice it.
[01:34:43.440 --> 01:34:50.440]  And let's see, Title 18, 242, and 243 are also areas that you can press
[01:34:50.440 --> 01:34:55.440]  criminal charges under with the Department of Justice against this judge.
[01:34:55.440 --> 01:35:01.440]  So there is a route you can take to go after this guy and get him disqualified,
[01:35:01.440 --> 01:35:07.440]  because you filed these criminal cases against him at the federal level,
[01:35:07.440 --> 01:35:08.440]  or criminal charges rather.
[01:35:08.440 --> 01:35:10.440]  And I just filed with the Department of Justice?
[01:35:10.440 --> 01:35:11.440]  That's right.
[01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:13.440]  They have an online form.
[01:35:13.440 --> 01:35:20.440]  Just do a search for Department of Justice and official misconduct,
[01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:25.440]  and just put Department of Justice in double quotes plus official misconduct
[01:35:25.440 --> 01:35:30.440]  in double quotes, and it will take you right to the Justice Department website
[01:35:30.440 --> 01:35:34.440]  where you can get the information on who to contact and how.
[01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:37.440]  Okay, because I will tell you, when the judge ordered that,
[01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:39.440]  my husband has now gone in.
[01:35:39.440 --> 01:35:43.440]  The kids and I had to leave everything we owned in that house.
[01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:45.440]  I pled with the judge.
[01:35:45.440 --> 01:35:49.440]  The judge never made my husband pay us the spousal maintenance
[01:35:49.440 --> 01:35:51.440]  and child support he was supposed to.
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:54.440]  I did not have the money to go in and get our stuff treated
[01:35:54.440 --> 01:35:58.440]  or the money to pull it out and store it or pay someone to move it.
[01:35:58.440 --> 01:36:02.440]  The judge let my husband go in there, destroy evidence
[01:36:02.440 --> 01:36:06.440]  because I had evidence of my husband's crimes in there, destroy the evidence,
[01:36:06.440 --> 01:36:12.440]  take, steal, give away, sell everything we own.
[01:36:12.440 --> 01:36:14.440]  Plus, we have been evicted.
[01:36:14.440 --> 01:36:18.440]  The kids and I are homeless now, although my son is now living with his dad,
[01:36:18.440 --> 01:36:20.440]  and I do not want to start crying.
[01:36:20.440 --> 01:36:22.440]  The only thing really important to me are my children,
[01:36:22.440 --> 01:36:25.440]  and the last place my son should be is with his father
[01:36:25.440 --> 01:36:28.440]  because his father is a sociopath.
[01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:33.440]  We do not have a home of our own, and I am fighting this stuff.
[01:36:33.440 --> 01:36:36.440]  I'm already in the state court of appeals.
[01:36:36.440 --> 01:36:37.440]  I'm in the district court.
[01:36:37.440 --> 01:36:39.440]  I do not know what I'm doing.
[01:36:39.440 --> 01:36:42.440]  I am just trying to do the best I can.
[01:36:42.440 --> 01:36:47.440]  This judge is trying to bury me alive, and even in this criminal complaint I just wrote,
[01:36:47.440 --> 01:36:51.440]  I cited probably at least four or five, three or four of the canons
[01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:55.440]  and at least two or three different sections of Canon 3,
[01:36:55.440 --> 01:37:00.440]  the last one being Canon 3D says disqualification.
[01:37:00.440 --> 01:37:06.440]  A judge shall absolutely disqualify himself or herself in the proceeding
[01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:12.440]  in which the judge's impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
[01:37:12.440 --> 01:37:17.440]  I mean, what more do you say?
[01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:22.440]  Well, in the case of this judge, he doesn't want to say.
[01:37:22.440 --> 01:37:23.440]  This is Minnesota.
[01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:29.440]  We don't have an easy fix, and worse, it's family court.
[01:37:29.440 --> 01:37:33.440]  Yeah, I think that's why Eddie was suggesting this federal route.
[01:37:33.440 --> 01:37:34.440]  Well, you know what?
[01:37:34.440 --> 01:37:40.440]  I'm going to slam this criminal complaint that I'm just having right here in front of me.
[01:37:40.440 --> 01:37:41.440]  It's like two and a half pages.
[01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:43.440]  I'm going to send it over there.
[01:37:43.440 --> 01:37:50.440]  I'm going to email it over there tonight and as well as send it to the judicial conduct place,
[01:37:50.440 --> 01:37:52.440]  and I'm going to see it.
[01:37:52.440 --> 01:37:54.440]  I don't know what else to do.
[01:37:54.440 --> 01:37:58.440]  I need the Lord to intervene mightily here because if I go there,
[01:37:58.440 --> 01:38:04.440]  he's got four pages of witnesses, he has 214 exhibit lists.
[01:38:04.440 --> 01:38:10.440]  He's trying to retry the whole custody, which this was supposedly bifurcated.
[01:38:10.440 --> 01:38:13.440]  The custody was supposedly already finished.
[01:38:13.440 --> 01:38:15.440]  He's dragging it back in.
[01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:18.440]  I know he's doing it because this judge is eating out of his hand,
[01:38:18.440 --> 01:38:27.440]  and if there's not a way to get this to stop before Tuesday, I am dead in the water.
[01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:30.440]  I do not stand the chance of a hoot in a hailstorm, and I am not a quitter,
[01:38:30.440 --> 01:38:42.440]  and I am a never-stay-die person, but I'll tell you, this is the hardest it's got.
[01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:46.440]  Wish I had an easy answer, darn it.
[01:38:46.440 --> 01:38:51.440]  My mom would say wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fell quicker.
[01:38:51.440 --> 01:39:00.440]  Mrs., you have been one of the callers that has terrified me more than any other
[01:39:00.440 --> 01:39:05.440]  because of the seriousness of the situation they put you in,
[01:39:05.440 --> 01:39:12.440]  and I'm almost afraid to tell you anything because the situation is so serious,
[01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:20.440]  and clearly Minnesota has to be the most corrupt state in the union.
[01:39:20.440 --> 01:39:24.440]  If you can find a family court in any state that's not corrupt beyond description,
[01:39:24.440 --> 01:39:33.440]  then you've discovered a diamond in the rough because I don't believe there is one.
[01:39:33.440 --> 01:39:37.440]  Well, I can't tell you how thankful I am for you guys.
[01:39:37.440 --> 01:39:39.440]  I mean, here I am floundering.
[01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:43.440]  I got told it was an absolute hands-down unequivocal miracle
[01:39:43.440 --> 01:39:47.440]  that I ever made it into state court of appeals because I do not know what I'm doing.
[01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:51.440]  So, I mean, just that alone is pretty phenomenal,
[01:39:51.440 --> 01:39:59.440]  but I am so thankful for the faithfulness that each of you put forward in what you do
[01:39:59.440 --> 01:40:03.440]  and the steadfastness and just the value of the tenor of what you present.
[01:40:03.440 --> 01:40:05.440]  I cannot thank you enough.
[01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:10.440]  I mean, I would have been dead long, long, three and a half years ago
[01:40:10.440 --> 01:40:15.440]  were it not for how much I listen to you guys and how much you have helped me.
[01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:20.440]  So thank you from the very depths of my heart.
[01:40:20.440 --> 01:40:27.440]  I just wish I had some magic pill to make this go away.
[01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:32.440]  I can think of something to hold six magic pills.
[01:40:32.440 --> 01:40:36.440]  But I'm not going to say that very loud.
[01:40:36.440 --> 01:40:40.440]  I wish there was some good old vigilante justice here that's all.
[01:40:40.440 --> 01:40:44.440]  Well, you are in the appeals court.
[01:40:44.440 --> 01:40:48.440]  So this may not be over yet.
[01:40:48.440 --> 01:40:50.440]  Yeah.
[01:40:50.440 --> 01:40:57.440]  The last thing I want is for this horrible person to have effect on my children.
[01:40:57.440 --> 01:41:03.440]  I mean, my son has already been, the psychologist already said that he is revealing,
[01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:07.440]  he's starting to exhibit sociopath tendencies because of the time with his dad.
[01:41:07.440 --> 01:41:11.440]  She recommended that it was reduced to six days a month and no more,
[01:41:11.440 --> 01:41:13.440]  and the judge gave him 50-50.
[01:41:13.440 --> 01:41:19.440]  It's just unbelievable what money will buy.
[01:41:19.440 --> 01:41:24.440]  Have you tried calling the Child Protective Services on this situation?
[01:41:24.440 --> 01:41:26.440]  There's a child protective report.
[01:41:26.440 --> 01:41:30.440]  Okay, so there already is a report from Child Protective Services.
[01:41:30.440 --> 01:41:33.440]  The judge wouldn't let it in.
[01:41:33.440 --> 01:41:35.440]  Well, I'm just wondering while Child Protective Services
[01:41:35.440 --> 01:41:37.440]  isn't doing something about this on their own,
[01:41:37.440 --> 01:41:39.440]  they're an agency with enforcement capacity.
[01:41:39.440 --> 01:41:41.440]  I mean, they could just go take the kids.
[01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:45.440]  They don't seem to have a problem with taking other people's kids for no reason.
[01:41:45.440 --> 01:41:48.440]  Amen.
[01:41:48.440 --> 01:41:55.440]  Okay, well, I don't want to hold you up from other callers.
[01:41:55.440 --> 01:41:57.440]  If you think of anything, let me know.
[01:41:57.440 --> 01:42:01.440]  Meanwhile, I will be sending this out to the Department of Justice
[01:42:01.440 --> 01:42:10.440]  and the Judicial Review Board here and the legislature.
[01:42:10.440 --> 01:42:14.440]  Yeah, getting a legislator on your side is going to help a lot.
[01:42:14.440 --> 01:42:18.440]  Yeah, now what you may want to do is when you fill out the information
[01:42:18.440 --> 01:42:21.440]  on the Justice Department paperwork,
[01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:28.440]  I would then send my copy to the Judicial Conduct Committee in Minnesota
[01:42:28.440 --> 01:42:32.440]  with that attached.
[01:42:32.440 --> 01:42:36.440]  Okay, so instead of just sending this there,
[01:42:36.440 --> 01:42:42.440]  fill this out on their paperwork, copy it, and then send it to the Judicial Review.
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:44.440]  That is correct.
[01:42:44.440 --> 01:42:45.440]  Okay.
[01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:50.440]  Let them know this is serious, serious enough for you to take it to the Fed.
[01:42:50.440 --> 01:42:55.440]  Okay.
[01:42:55.440 --> 01:42:56.440]  You know what?
[01:42:56.440 --> 01:43:00.440]  And this is a time of political turmoil.
[01:43:00.440 --> 01:43:06.440]  All of your members of the House of Representatives are all up for re-election
[01:43:06.440 --> 01:43:08.440]  with a 12% approval rating.
[01:43:08.440 --> 01:43:14.440]  It might be time to go there to see if you can get some influence for remedy here.
[01:43:14.440 --> 01:43:20.440]  You may, you have a legislator that's probably looking for a way
[01:43:20.440 --> 01:43:23.440]  to gain some favor with his constituents.
[01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:26.440]  Especially when you have a CPS report.
[01:43:26.440 --> 01:43:28.440]  Yep.
[01:43:28.440 --> 01:43:32.440]  Oh, I should tell you, you will get a good chuckle.
[01:43:32.440 --> 01:43:34.440]  I am actually on the ballot.
[01:43:34.440 --> 01:43:38.440]  I was asked to be on the ballot as Lieutenant Governor.
[01:43:38.440 --> 01:43:39.440]  All right.
[01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:40.440]  Good for you, Gail.
[01:43:40.440 --> 01:43:42.440]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:44.440]  So I will get air time for this.
[01:43:44.440 --> 01:43:46.440]  So bless your hearts and thanks so much.
[01:43:46.440 --> 01:43:47.440]  Okay.
[01:43:47.440 --> 01:43:48.440]  Thank you, Gail.
[01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:49.440]  Okay.
[01:43:49.440 --> 01:43:51.440]  We're going to break, and when we get back,
[01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:54.440]  we're going to go to Mike in Texas and then Michael in Maryland.
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[01:45:15.440 --> 01:45:18.440]  Okay. We're taking your calls. We're coming into the homestretch here.
[01:45:18.440 --> 01:45:20.440]  We're going to Mike in Texas.
[01:45:20.440 --> 01:45:24.440]  Mike, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:45:24.440 --> 01:45:26.440]  Hello. Is this – am I on?
[01:45:26.440 --> 01:45:30.440]  Yes. What is your question or comment for us tonight, Mike?
[01:45:30.440 --> 01:45:33.440]  Oh, hi.
[01:45:33.440 --> 01:45:38.440]  I was – last week I went through Bergstrom Airport
[01:45:38.440 --> 01:45:46.440]  and they found a water bottle in my bag and it escalated up to an arrest with handcuffs.
[01:45:46.440 --> 01:45:50.440]  They cited me with a Class C misdemeanor.
[01:45:50.440 --> 01:45:58.440]  It's a statute for Boston Ordinance 13-1-83,
[01:45:58.440 --> 01:46:09.440]  but it has to do with finding contraband and circumventing screening, things of that nature.
[01:46:09.440 --> 01:46:11.440]  Where did you get the bottle of water?
[01:46:11.440 --> 01:46:17.440]  I bought it at Dollar Store in Austin.
[01:46:17.440 --> 01:46:21.440]  And you took it through the airport, who checked your bags and allowed you in with it?
[01:46:21.440 --> 01:46:25.440]  Well, I threw it in with my luggage bag.
[01:46:25.440 --> 01:46:31.440]  I was on my way for an interview and I grabbed some things at the Dollar Store,
[01:46:31.440 --> 01:46:34.440]  something to eat, and I grabbed a bottle of water.
[01:46:34.440 --> 01:46:39.440]  And in the morning, at a very early flight, I just kind of threw everything in the bag,
[01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:43.440]  bottle of water, some candy and stuff like that.
[01:46:43.440 --> 01:46:45.440]  This was in your carry-on bag, right?
[01:46:45.440 --> 01:46:47.440]  This was my carry-on bag.
[01:46:47.440 --> 01:46:48.440]  And so when they –
[01:46:48.440 --> 01:46:50.440]  I'm sorry. Go ahead, Deborah.
[01:46:50.440 --> 01:46:57.440]  Okay. I was just going to say, so when security found the bottle of water, what happened?
[01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:02.440]  Well, I passed through the metal detector.
[01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:07.440]  My bag was being passed through X-ray, and then a woman at the top of her lungs was screaming,
[01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:09.440]  do you have a water bottle in your bag?
[01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:10.440]  Do you have a water bottle in your bag?
[01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:11.440]  Do you have a water bottle in your bag?
[01:47:11.440 --> 01:47:13.440]  At least three times.
[01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:16.440]  And she got to me and then she's like, where's the water bottle?
[01:47:16.440 --> 01:47:18.440]  It's in your bag.
[01:47:18.440 --> 01:47:21.440]  I don't know. It's in there.
[01:47:21.440 --> 01:47:28.440]  She started rummaging through my luggage kind of in a way that I thought she was going to damage the bag.
[01:47:28.440 --> 01:47:32.440]  And she found the water bottle and said, you can't bring water to TSA.
[01:47:32.440 --> 01:47:34.440]  Do you want to keep the water or you have to exit TSA?
[01:47:34.440 --> 01:47:36.440]  Do you want to keep the water?
[01:47:36.440 --> 01:47:38.440]  And I said, no, take the water bottle.
[01:47:38.440 --> 01:47:39.440]  Take the water.
[01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:44.440]  And she kept repeating herself over and over again about three or four times.
[01:47:44.440 --> 01:47:49.440]  And so finally she gave me my luggage and allowed me to go.
[01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:50.440]  She took the water bottle.
[01:47:50.440 --> 01:47:51.440]  She went one way.
[01:47:51.440 --> 01:47:56.440]  And this is probably, you know, this is my mistake.
[01:47:56.440 --> 01:47:59.440]  I had only three hours of sleep.
[01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:00.440]  It's five in the morning.
[01:48:00.440 --> 01:48:01.440]  And I muttered something under my breath.
[01:48:01.440 --> 01:48:02.440]  And it wasn't at her.
[01:48:02.440 --> 01:48:07.440]  It was just the ridiculousness of the situation that they confiscate water.
[01:48:07.440 --> 01:48:09.440]  I mean, there's water fountains every place.
[01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:10.440]  We're flying in a fly-through water.
[01:48:10.440 --> 01:48:12.440]  They're going to serve water in a flight.
[01:48:12.440 --> 01:48:16.440]  Anyways, she came back and started screaming at me, what did you say?
[01:48:16.440 --> 01:48:17.440]  What did you say?
[01:48:17.440 --> 01:48:19.440]  I'm not going to repeat what I said.
[01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:26.440]  And so then she took me to security in the side area where they have a little
[01:48:26.440 --> 01:48:27.440]  revolving gate.
[01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:29.440]  There's a rubber mat.
[01:48:29.440 --> 01:48:32.440]  And they ran my shoes through again.
[01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:40.440]  They ran my luggage through again, just screaming and yelling at me.
[01:48:40.440 --> 01:48:42.440]  You said this was a Boston ordinance?
[01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:45.440]  No, Austin.
[01:48:45.440 --> 01:48:46.440]  Austin, Texas?
[01:48:46.440 --> 01:48:47.440]  Austin, Texas, yeah.
[01:48:47.440 --> 01:48:50.440]  Oh, good.
[01:48:50.440 --> 01:48:54.440]  Well, apparently the airport is the municipal airport.
[01:48:54.440 --> 01:48:56.440]  It's municipal airport.
[01:48:56.440 --> 01:48:58.440]  Well, they tried to wand me.
[01:48:58.440 --> 01:49:01.440]  And they tried to follow the directions that would give me conflicting orders or
[01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:03.440]  conflicting directions, whatever you want to say.
[01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:04.440]  Some of my luggage was an X-ray.
[01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:06.440]  Some of it was in front of me.
[01:49:06.440 --> 01:49:08.440]  And the person, I'm looking at my luggage, looking forward,
[01:49:08.440 --> 01:49:10.440]  that you're going to have your hands out.
[01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:13.440]  And so they're wanding me.
[01:49:13.440 --> 01:49:17.440]  And I can tell that they're just trying to create a situation.
[01:49:17.440 --> 01:49:19.440]  And so they're saying, look forward.
[01:49:19.440 --> 01:49:20.440]  Well, I'm looking.
[01:49:20.440 --> 01:49:22.440]  Look forward and look at your luggage.
[01:49:22.440 --> 01:49:23.440]  Well, I'm looking forward.
[01:49:23.440 --> 01:49:24.440]  What do you want me to do, sir?
[01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:26.440]  My luggage is an X-ray.
[01:49:26.440 --> 01:49:27.440]  It's forward.
[01:49:27.440 --> 01:49:29.440]  What do you want me to do?
[01:49:29.440 --> 01:49:31.440]  So I was looking forward.
[01:49:31.440 --> 01:49:32.440]  And then so I started to look.
[01:49:32.440 --> 01:49:33.440]  Do you want me to look to the side?
[01:49:33.440 --> 01:49:34.440]  I mean, my luggage is up there.
[01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:37.440]  Am I supposed to monitor it?
[01:49:37.440 --> 01:49:39.440]  Look forward and look at your luggage.
[01:49:39.440 --> 01:49:41.440]  So he said it a second time.
[01:49:41.440 --> 01:49:43.440]  And then what do you want me to do?
[01:49:43.440 --> 01:49:45.440]  And so he got up and left.
[01:49:45.440 --> 01:49:47.440]  And they called over a police officer.
[01:49:47.440 --> 01:49:51.440]  Well, I assume so because he failed to ID.
[01:49:51.440 --> 01:49:53.440]  So I'm still in security.
[01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:55.440]  I've never left TSA.
[01:49:55.440 --> 01:49:57.440]  They've already passed me once.
[01:49:57.440 --> 01:49:59.440]  Do you mean they're okay now?
[01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:04.440]  They're just kind of punishing me or whatever.
[01:50:04.440 --> 01:50:06.440]  So he wants my ID, I asked,
[01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:09.440]  for his ID is open as bond.
[01:50:09.440 --> 01:50:12.440]  He asked for my ID, I asked for his open as bond.
[01:50:12.440 --> 01:50:15.440]  And then so he immediately put me in handcuffs.
[01:50:15.440 --> 01:50:19.440]  And I didn't want to move, but he forced me backwards.
[01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:21.440]  And I had me sit in a chair.
[01:50:21.440 --> 01:50:25.440]  What did he charge you with when he put you in handcuffs?
[01:50:25.440 --> 01:50:27.440]  It didn't come out initially.
[01:50:27.440 --> 01:50:32.440]  A second officer came over and consulted with the first officer,
[01:50:32.440 --> 01:50:35.440]  discussed the situation with the first officer.
[01:50:35.440 --> 01:50:37.440]  And this was after he spoke with me.
[01:50:37.440 --> 01:50:39.440]  He spoke with the other officer and said,
[01:50:39.440 --> 01:50:41.440]  you have no reason to hold him.
[01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:42.440]  He hasn't done anything wrong.
[01:50:42.440 --> 01:50:45.440]  You have to let him go.
[01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:49.440]  And so eventually they gave me what looks like a traffic ticket.
[01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:54.440]  Well, who else witnessed that statement?
[01:50:54.440 --> 01:50:55.440]  No one.
[01:50:55.440 --> 01:50:57.440]  I'm just traveling by myself.
[01:50:57.440 --> 01:51:01.440]  But there was no other employees or anybody in the room at this time?
[01:51:01.440 --> 01:51:02.440]  Well, this isn't a room.
[01:51:02.440 --> 01:51:07.440]  It's kind of an open area in the TSA zone.
[01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:09.440]  There's cameras ahead.
[01:51:09.440 --> 01:51:11.440]  I'm sure they've probably been erased by now.
[01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:12.440]  I don't know.
[01:51:12.440 --> 01:51:15.440]  Because I commented that the officer, the first officer,
[01:51:15.440 --> 01:51:19.440]  after he handcuffed me started going through my pockets,
[01:51:19.440 --> 01:51:21.440]  grabbing my wallet and going through my wallet.
[01:51:21.440 --> 01:51:26.440]  And I'm like, hey, don't you need a warrant?
[01:51:26.440 --> 01:51:30.440]  They threatened to take me down and book me.
[01:51:30.440 --> 01:51:32.440]  And I said, well, I believe you.
[01:51:32.440 --> 01:51:33.440]  I don't believe that's true.
[01:51:33.440 --> 01:51:35.440]  I think you have to take me to the magistrate first.
[01:51:35.440 --> 01:51:37.440]  You can't make a legal determination.
[01:51:37.440 --> 01:51:39.440]  They said, no, we're going to book you first.
[01:51:39.440 --> 01:51:45.440]  Then take you to the magistrate, which I believe is, you know,
[01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:47.440]  aggravated kidnapping.
[01:51:47.440 --> 01:51:48.440]  They admitted they had no reason to hold you,
[01:51:48.440 --> 01:51:51.440]  but they told you they were going to book you?
[01:51:51.440 --> 01:51:55.440]  Yeah.
[01:51:55.440 --> 01:52:03.440]  And so after, yeah, I wasn't going to comply, but I was on my way for a job interview.
[01:52:03.440 --> 01:52:04.440]  Okay.
[01:52:04.440 --> 01:52:07.440]  Well, you said they gave you what looked like a traffic ticket.
[01:52:07.440 --> 01:52:08.440]  Yes, sir.
[01:52:08.440 --> 01:52:11.440]  And what happened at that point?
[01:52:11.440 --> 01:52:12.440]  They made me sign it.
[01:52:12.440 --> 01:52:16.440]  They put a promise to appear a month minus a day,
[01:52:16.440 --> 01:52:19.440]  because I thought it would have been on a Saturday.
[01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:22.440]  That's going to be the 16th next month.
[01:52:22.440 --> 01:52:31.440]  And then they went through, they rewounded me again, and then they did a path down.
[01:52:31.440 --> 01:52:35.440]  That was TSA wanted me, and TSA did a path down.
[01:52:35.440 --> 01:52:39.440]  And then after I had successfully passed, they x-rayed my possessions.
[01:52:39.440 --> 01:52:42.440]  I don't know how many times they finally let me go.
[01:52:42.440 --> 01:52:48.440]  And I didn't, you know, it was after my flight, so I missed the flight.
[01:52:48.440 --> 01:52:51.440]  Okay.
[01:52:51.440 --> 01:52:57.440]  And so I don't know, I'm just kind of wondering what to do,
[01:52:57.440 --> 01:53:02.440]  and I was wondering if you had any advice.
[01:53:02.440 --> 01:53:09.440]  It kind of depends on what you want to do.
[01:53:09.440 --> 01:53:14.440]  False imprisonment, you know, you can make all kinds of charges against him.
[01:53:14.440 --> 01:53:18.440]  If we don't fight back, they'll just get worse.
[01:53:18.440 --> 01:53:23.440]  I do want to fight back, because this was pretty aggravated, I felt.
[01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:25.440]  You know, I've never been arrested before.
[01:53:25.440 --> 01:53:27.440]  I've never been handcuffed.
[01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:30.440]  You know, I wasn't doing anything to cause harm.
[01:53:30.440 --> 01:53:33.440]  I'm just standing there talking to an officer, or I believe to be an officer,
[01:53:33.440 --> 01:53:38.440]  just because I asked him to show me his ID.
[01:53:38.440 --> 01:53:40.440]  Was he playing close, or was he in uniform?
[01:53:40.440 --> 01:53:47.440]  He was in uniform, but this goes back to something some other people had told me,
[01:53:47.440 --> 01:53:52.440]  where 60-plus arrests were fought per se in the police officers of the state of Texas.
[01:53:52.440 --> 01:53:55.440]  And I even brought that up, and so I don't assume that someone's an officer.
[01:53:55.440 --> 01:53:57.440]  Right, and I'm not saying you should.
[01:53:57.440 --> 01:54:00.440]  I'm just looking at all the angles they're going to look at it from
[01:54:00.440 --> 01:54:04.440]  and trying to make sure of what the bases are covered.
[01:54:04.440 --> 01:54:06.440]  Okay.
[01:54:06.440 --> 01:54:10.440]  Now, in this regard, once again, they're charging you under a city ordinance,
[01:54:10.440 --> 01:54:17.440]  which is not law that is valid to be used against you and I.
[01:54:17.440 --> 01:54:21.440]  State Constitution makes that very, very clear.
[01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:29.440]  Article 3, Section 29, the enacting clause of all laws shall be a city ordinance
[01:54:29.440 --> 01:54:34.440]  has no enacting clause, it is not enacted by the state legislature,
[01:54:34.440 --> 01:54:39.440]  and it was a violation of their oath of office to attempt to pass an ordinance
[01:54:39.440 --> 01:54:45.440]  that allowed anyone to do so.
[01:54:45.440 --> 01:54:48.440]  So this could be official oppression.
[01:54:48.440 --> 01:54:52.440]  Abuse of official capacity, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping,
[01:54:52.440 --> 01:54:56.440]  false imprisonment, aggravated perjury, you've got a laundry list.
[01:54:56.440 --> 01:55:00.440]  An assault on the part of the TSA officer, it's not even an officer,
[01:55:00.440 --> 01:55:08.440]  the TSA employee that touched you, they don't have any authority to touch you at all.
[01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:10.440]  They're not law enforcement.
[01:55:10.440 --> 01:55:12.440]  TSA is not a law enforcement entity.
[01:55:12.440 --> 01:55:16.440]  They have no authority to force people to submit to pat downs
[01:55:16.440 --> 01:55:19.440]  or to go through the naked body scanners or anything.
[01:55:19.440 --> 01:55:22.440]  Yeah, and if, in fact, the states wish to do so,
[01:55:22.440 --> 01:55:24.440]  the states could kick them out of their airports.
[01:55:24.440 --> 01:55:25.440]  Absolutely.
[01:55:25.440 --> 01:55:31.440]  The city could kick them out because it's a municipal airport.
[01:55:31.440 --> 01:55:37.440]  Well, I didn't ask the TSA woman who had started all the problem,
[01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:40.440]  if I could see her idea, her oath in her body, she said, what?
[01:55:40.440 --> 01:55:41.440]  What are you talking about?
[01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:45.440]  Well, she wouldn't have an oath because she's not law enforcement.
[01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:46.440]  I knew.
[01:55:46.440 --> 01:55:48.440]  I was fairly certain she didn't have that.
[01:55:48.440 --> 01:55:51.440]  Well, but she's a federal employee.
[01:55:51.440 --> 01:55:55.440]  She still has to have an oath.
[01:55:55.440 --> 01:55:58.440]  Okay.
[01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:02.440]  So eventually, after things get settled,
[01:56:02.440 --> 01:56:05.440]  then I'm going to subpoena her information
[01:56:05.440 --> 01:56:07.440]  and see if she filed an oath.
[01:56:07.440 --> 01:56:12.440]  It appears she has not.
[01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:15.440]  Well, I don't know.
[01:56:15.440 --> 01:56:17.440]  I didn't mean to take up too much of your reach.
[01:56:17.440 --> 01:56:21.440]  You might want to look at a nice hefty lawsuit against the city of Austin
[01:56:21.440 --> 01:56:25.440]  because of what TSA did.
[01:56:25.440 --> 01:56:26.440]  Okay.
[01:56:26.440 --> 01:56:34.440]  If they get enough lawsuits against TSA, then city of Austin might get excited.
[01:56:34.440 --> 01:56:35.440]  Okay.
[01:56:35.440 --> 01:56:42.440]  As I guess things work out, I would like to get a judgment.
[01:56:42.440 --> 01:56:46.440]  When is your court date for this traffic ticket or whatever it is?
[01:56:46.440 --> 01:56:50.440]  It's on the 17th of July.
[01:56:50.440 --> 01:56:52.440]  All right.
[01:56:52.440 --> 01:56:57.440]  And what was the city ordinance they cited you with violating?
[01:56:57.440 --> 01:57:01.440]  13-1-83, and there are three parts to it,
[01:57:01.440 --> 01:57:05.440]  and I don't know which part they're going to charge me.
[01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:07.440]  There's part A, part B.
[01:57:07.440 --> 01:57:11.440]  So they haven't even specified what they're charging you with.
[01:57:11.440 --> 01:57:13.440]  It's insufficient on its face.
[01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:16.440]  They didn't even put a statute number on the original citation.
[01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:18.440]  They had to come up with that later.
[01:57:18.440 --> 01:57:20.440]  They came up with it later?
[01:57:20.440 --> 01:57:21.440]  Yeah.
[01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:24.440]  They changed the citation later?
[01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:25.440]  Yeah.
[01:57:25.440 --> 01:57:32.440]  I have the officer citation, and it shows that he added the statute number later.
[01:57:32.440 --> 01:57:35.440]  How did you find that out?
[01:57:35.440 --> 01:57:41.440]  Well, I went to the court of courts today, and I got a copy of the officer's copy,
[01:57:41.440 --> 01:57:45.440]  and I have my copy, and it shows that he added the statute number.
[01:57:45.440 --> 01:57:47.440]  Initially it didn't have a statute number.
[01:57:47.440 --> 01:57:50.440]  Now in his copy, it has a statute number.
[01:57:50.440 --> 01:57:51.440]  Oh, boy.
[01:57:51.440 --> 01:57:52.440]  They're really in trouble.
[01:57:52.440 --> 01:57:54.440]  No, they can do that.
[01:57:54.440 --> 01:57:59.440]  I don't expect the officers to have all the numbers memorized,
[01:57:59.440 --> 01:58:04.440]  but as long as it goes to the same accusation, there won't be a problem with that.
[01:58:04.440 --> 01:58:05.440]  Okay.
[01:58:05.440 --> 01:58:06.440]  Listen, I'm sorry, Mike.
[01:58:06.440 --> 01:58:09.440]  We're at the end of the show.
[01:58:09.440 --> 01:58:13.440]  Why don't you call back in tomorrow night so we can discuss this some more?
[01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:14.440]  Okay.
[01:58:14.440 --> 01:58:15.440]  Thank you for your time.
[01:58:15.440 --> 01:58:16.440]  Okay, sure.
[01:58:16.440 --> 01:58:17.440]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:58:17.440 --> 01:58:18.440]  All right.
[01:58:18.440 --> 01:58:19.440]  And I'm sorry to Michael and Marilyn.
[01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:21.440]  We're running out of time here.
[01:58:21.440 --> 01:58:26.440]  Tomorrow night we have a four-hour info marathon from 8 p.m. to midnight Central Time.
[01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:32.440]  We've got We Are Change, L.A. organizer Bruno Breweiler.
[01:58:32.440 --> 01:58:35.440]  That will be on for the first hour or so, and then we'll be taking your calls,
[01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:40.440]  so Mike, definitely call back in, and Michael from Marilyn, call back in.
[01:58:40.440 --> 01:58:52.440]  We will see you guys and gals tomorrow night.
[01:59:10.440 --> 01:59:25.440]  Thank you.
[01:59:25.440 --> 01:59:40.440]  Thank you.
[01:59:40.440 --> 01:59:55.440]  Thank you.