ROL_2010-05-07_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:09.480]  Five police officers and a government official were killed Wednesday in a series of explosions
[00:09.480 --> 00:12.760]  that rocked the Afghan province of Nimroz.
[00:12.760 --> 00:17.200]  Officials say militants stormed government buildings, including the governor's office.
[00:17.200 --> 00:21.200]  Afghan troops killed nine Taliban fighters.
[00:21.200 --> 00:26.680]  As the European debt crisis worsens, it turns out the U.S. taxpayer is on the hook for billions
[00:26.680 --> 00:28.440]  of dollars in bailout funds.
[00:28.440 --> 00:35.640]  The U.S. provides 20% of IMF funding, which means U.S. taxpayers could pay $8 billion
[00:35.640 --> 00:38.680]  to prop up Greek banks.
[00:38.680 --> 00:43.280]  Iraq moved toward forming a new government Wednesday as the two Shia religious political
[00:43.280 --> 00:46.360]  blocs reached an agreement on sharing power.
[00:46.360 --> 00:51.360]  Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki will likely lose his job in a deal cut between his state
[00:51.360 --> 00:57.480]  of law coalition and the Iraqi National Alliance, dominated by followers of Shia cleric Mugtada
[00:57.480 --> 00:58.480]  al-Sadr.
[00:58.480 --> 01:05.200]  A previously unknown strain of a virulent airborne fungus that has already killed at least six
[01:05.200 --> 01:09.880]  people in Oregon, Washington and Idaho is spreading throughout the region.
[01:09.880 --> 01:15.600]  Microbiologists say the fungus, a new genotype of Cryptococcus gatti fungi, normally found
[01:15.600 --> 01:22.400]  in India, South America, Africa and Australia, is a far deadlier strain than any found overseas.
[01:22.400 --> 01:27.000]  Physicians report an undetermined number of people are ill from its effects.
[01:27.000 --> 01:32.800]  Symptoms include a lingering cough, sharp chest pains, fever, night sweats, weight loss,
[01:32.800 --> 01:34.680]  headaches and shortness of breath.
[01:34.680 --> 01:39.360]  The strain can be treated if detected early enough, but cannot be prevented.
[01:39.360 --> 01:43.840]  Cryptococcus gatti fungus has been researched for decades at the U.S. Army's Biological
[01:43.840 --> 01:47.800]  Warfare Center at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
[01:47.800 --> 01:52.560]  Microbiologists report that Israeli-American scientist Joseph Moshe, who may have conducted
[01:52.560 --> 01:58.960]  covert studies with the fungus, was the subject of a spectacular chase and arrest by police,
[01:58.960 --> 02:01.000]  CIA and the U.S. Army.
[02:01.000 --> 02:11.680]  Moshe's whereabouts is still unknown.
[02:11.680 --> 02:18.200]  The New York Daily News says Thursday's heart-stopping Dow plunge of nearly 1,000 points may have
[02:18.200 --> 02:25.000]  been caused by a trader accidentally keying $16 billion instead of $16 million, sparking
[02:25.000 --> 02:26.760]  the massive sell-off.
[02:26.760 --> 02:30.800]  Representatives from the major U.S. stock exchanges and the Securities and Exchange
[02:30.800 --> 02:35.800]  Commission held an emergency conference call Thursday to look into potentially mistaken
[02:35.800 --> 02:38.640]  trades involving a number of stocks.
[02:38.640 --> 02:44.160]  NASDAQ announced it will cancel all trades of stocks at prices that were 60% above or
[02:44.160 --> 02:50.400]  below the last price at 2.40 p.m. Thursday or immediately prior.
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[03:38.680 --> 03:58.460]  Well, I am a first-time caller and a first-time
[03:58.460 --> 03:59.460]  lister.
[03:59.460 --> 04:05.600]  I've seen a few video clips of Randy where he was talking with a talk show host, and
[04:05.600 --> 04:12.000]  I apologize if this is the inappropriate forum for this, but I had a question concerning
[04:12.000 --> 04:15.360]  the legal definition of register.
[04:15.360 --> 04:20.000]  It was something I had heard about on some other sites that I was looking at, and it
[04:20.000 --> 04:26.600]  talked about registration as being something that was abandoning title to, and I was wondering
[04:26.600 --> 04:31.980]  if Randy or you might have some more insight on that, essentially basically saying that
[04:31.980 --> 04:35.800]  the birth certificate was abandoning title to.
[04:35.800 --> 04:44.640]  Okay, I have a... there's a special legal explanation for that concept of the birth
[04:44.640 --> 04:45.640]  certificate.
[04:45.640 --> 04:46.640]  Uh-huh.
[04:46.640 --> 04:49.640]  It's called horse poop.
[04:49.640 --> 04:52.640]  It's just nonsense.
[04:52.640 --> 04:54.640]  It's not true.
[04:54.640 --> 05:02.640]  All of this is just nonsense about this being like due maritime salvage laws or something
[05:02.640 --> 05:07.160]  that the state picks it up, and then the federal government floats you as a bond on the stock
[05:07.160 --> 05:08.160]  market.
[05:08.160 --> 05:11.840]  I mean, it was just, like I said, I apologize if this is the wrong forum for that.
[05:11.840 --> 05:13.760]  No, this is fine.
[05:13.760 --> 05:15.480]  We need to address this.
[05:15.480 --> 05:19.120]  That is an elaborate metaphor.
[05:19.120 --> 05:27.920]  You know, I'm an engineer, and we have this story that we use to describe the known universe,
[05:27.920 --> 05:33.080]  and it's based on four primary forces, and we explain everything based on these four
[05:33.080 --> 05:40.760]  primary forces, but in the recent years, it's become clear that there are at least a couple
[05:40.760 --> 05:43.560]  more.
[05:43.560 --> 05:52.120]  So it's clear that our story is only a story to describe the phenomenon that we experience.
[05:52.120 --> 05:59.800]  Well, that's okay in certain areas, but here we're talking about law, and they're saying
[05:59.800 --> 06:08.720]  that because this happens after you're born and this happens after you're born, therefore,
[06:08.720 --> 06:15.720]  all of this elaborate story they made up is all true, and as I was addressing earlier
[06:15.720 --> 06:25.800]  in how to prepare a motion, you can't say anything to the judge in terms of a proactive
[06:25.800 --> 06:32.400]  assertion of law out of your own mouth, because that's just your opinion.
[06:32.400 --> 06:38.320]  You have to give the judge law, so when they start telling me about all of this birth certificate
[06:38.320 --> 06:49.960]  creating an adhesion contract and how I become a ward of the state or legal fiction, I believe
[06:49.960 --> 06:50.960]  is what they were saying.
[06:50.960 --> 06:56.720]  Yeah, and I say, okay, guys, where did you get that from?
[06:56.720 --> 06:59.600]  Don't take me there with personal opinion.
[06:59.600 --> 07:02.800]  Don't take me there with conjecture.
[07:02.800 --> 07:08.520]  If I am a corporation, where are the articles of incorporation, and what are the bylaws?
[07:08.520 --> 07:13.320]  In order for me to be a corporation, I'd have to have articles of incorporation, I'd have
[07:13.320 --> 07:17.800]  to be filed, I'd have to, oh, well, you see, it's like this.
[07:17.800 --> 07:24.920]  Well, I don't do that well, and people who try to follow these, I have been called around
[07:24.920 --> 07:29.720]  the country to try to help people stay out of jail for following these routines, and
[07:29.720 --> 07:34.760]  the people who teach it say, oh, oh, well, well, you see, you didn't hold your mouth
[07:34.760 --> 07:40.120]  just right when you did this one, and I have a real problem with that.
[07:40.120 --> 07:48.040]  With what Eddie and Debra and I present, you're not going to get any of these surprise, surprise
[07:48.040 --> 07:50.280]  problems.
[07:50.280 --> 07:57.400]  Nobody following what we've presented has ever gotten trouble for following it, because
[07:57.400 --> 08:04.880]  if I tell you something is a certain way, I'll take you to the law, and I will walk
[08:04.880 --> 08:08.400]  you right down exactly what I say.
[08:08.400 --> 08:14.620]  Now, sometimes I'll give you my opinion, but I'm extremely careful about telling you when
[08:14.620 --> 08:19.920]  I'm giving you opinion about the law and when I'm giving you the law.
[08:19.920 --> 08:29.360]  And this commercial process, I see value in it, but we have people out there creating
[08:29.360 --> 08:35.400]  a real legal fiction and convincing people to follow it.
[08:35.400 --> 08:37.840]  I'm real dubious about that.
[08:37.840 --> 08:42.400]  This free man, straw man stuff, you're referring to that, you mean?
[08:42.400 --> 08:43.680]  It's real.
[08:43.680 --> 08:47.440]  I don't like the straw man metaphor.
[08:47.440 --> 08:51.020]  I think it's more productive to think about it.
[08:51.020 --> 08:58.080]  There are times when I'm dealing in private, if Eddie and I make a private contract with
[08:58.080 --> 09:01.200]  one another, we're in the private.
[09:01.200 --> 09:09.320]  But when I get out in my automobile and I drive around in and amongst other people,
[09:09.320 --> 09:16.460]  and I bash into somebody else, I'm not in the private anymore, I'm in the public.
[09:16.460 --> 09:21.160]  That's where the straw man exists, in the public, in his interactions with the public.
[09:21.160 --> 09:22.160]  Okay.
[09:22.160 --> 09:26.720]  And they try to make it some magic little fiction thing.
[09:26.720 --> 09:34.080]  It's just where you're at, what area of law you're dealing in.
[09:34.080 --> 09:35.080]  I'm real uncomfortable.
[09:35.080 --> 09:38.800]  The only part of that argument they have correct is it's a status.
[09:38.800 --> 09:41.240]  It's the capacity in which you are acting.
[09:41.240 --> 09:42.240]  That's all.
[09:42.240 --> 09:45.040]  Yeah, that's the term I was looking for, yes, exactly.
[09:45.040 --> 09:46.040]  Capacity.
[09:46.040 --> 09:52.760]  If I can interject here for just a second, Randy, I believe I can tell you where this
[09:52.760 --> 09:57.720]  anomaly of direction has come from in regard to the term register.
[09:57.720 --> 10:04.320]  Bouvier's 1856 records register three different ways depending upon what we're talking about.
[10:04.320 --> 10:11.640]  I'm going to read you what register in the common law meant at that time.
[10:11.640 --> 10:17.600]  The certificate of registry granted to the person or persons entitled thereto by the
[10:17.600 --> 10:24.400]  collector of the district, comprehending the port to which any ship or vessel shall belong.
[10:24.400 --> 10:29.360]  More properly, the registry itself, for the form, requisites, and whatever a certificate
[10:29.360 --> 10:36.280]  of registry see, Act of Constitutional Declaration 31, 1792, or Act of Congress.
[10:36.280 --> 10:41.760]  Now, one of the arguments they always want to make in commerce is the argument about
[10:41.760 --> 10:42.760]  the vessel.
[10:42.760 --> 10:47.880]  This vessel, that vessel, you're a vessel, I'm a vessel, she's a vessel, wouldn't you
[10:47.880 --> 10:50.240]  like to be a vessel too kind of deal?
[10:50.240 --> 10:51.240]  Right.
[10:51.240 --> 10:53.200]  Bird Canal, what others want.
[10:53.200 --> 10:54.200]  Exactly.
[10:54.200 --> 10:55.200]  You're not.
[10:55.200 --> 10:56.200]  Okay?
[10:56.200 --> 11:03.280]  Register in that day and age had a specific connotation under the common law, but today
[11:03.280 --> 11:06.480]  there are additional definitions for that term.
[11:06.480 --> 11:08.000]  This is one of them.
[11:08.000 --> 11:14.720]  A book containing a record of facts as they occur, kept by public authority, a register
[11:14.720 --> 11:17.160]  of births, marriages, and burials.
[11:17.160 --> 11:20.680]  It is a public record and nothing more.
[11:20.680 --> 11:25.720]  It is a recording of events and nothing more.
[11:25.720 --> 11:29.480]  That would also be a legal definition or just another accepted definition.
[11:29.480 --> 11:32.280]  No, that's a legal definition out of bouviers.
[11:32.280 --> 11:39.240]  Now, the same definition in blacks, register to record formally and exactly, to enroll,
[11:39.240 --> 11:45.120]  to enter precisely in a list or the like, to make correspond exactly one with another,
[11:45.120 --> 11:50.600]  to fit correctly in a relative position, to be in correct alignment one with another.
[11:50.600 --> 11:51.600]  Okay?
[11:51.600 --> 11:59.880]  Then again, a book of public facts such as births, deaths, and marriages, also called
[11:59.880 --> 12:05.200]  a registry or the public official who keeps such book.
[12:05.200 --> 12:07.880]  I see.
[12:07.880 --> 12:13.400]  We have people out there playing games with the definitions of terms.
[12:13.400 --> 12:19.440]  The ones that drive me the most crazy are the ones that say, well, they used this term
[12:19.440 --> 12:28.640]  today, but 400 years ago it meant this over here, so therefore what they're saying today
[12:28.640 --> 12:30.640]  really don't mean what they're saying today.
[12:30.640 --> 12:34.160]  It means what it meant 400 years ago.
[12:34.160 --> 12:36.680]  I want to choke them.
[12:36.680 --> 12:39.400]  It does no such thing.
[12:39.400 --> 12:43.400]  In watching some of your videos, I noticed that you did take a more legal approach to
[12:43.400 --> 12:49.240]  it and using... In fact, I was listening to the story about your headlight being out
[12:49.240 --> 12:53.440]  and your registration and how you ended up in jail and you started looking at penal code.
[12:53.440 --> 12:57.960]  I did live in the state of Texas, I grew up in Houston for about 12 years and had dealt
[12:57.960 --> 13:01.320]  with the police on several occasions and finally just left the state because I was getting
[13:01.320 --> 13:07.440]  pulled over every two blocks and it just seemed to be one big nightmare of law down there
[13:07.440 --> 13:09.880]  or lawlessness, I should say.
[13:09.880 --> 13:17.520]  I was curious, is there a statute on how long that you can file a complaint against a judge
[13:17.520 --> 13:21.440]  or somebody for not taking you straight to a magistrate?
[13:21.440 --> 13:23.560]  Two years.
[13:23.560 --> 13:29.840]  Two years official oppression is a class A misdemeanor, two years statute of limitations.
[13:29.840 --> 13:38.960]  Now, if in the process of violating that particular law, they also happen to commit a felony,
[13:38.960 --> 13:42.440]  then the statute of limitation on the felony can be up to five years.
[13:42.440 --> 13:51.560]  Oh, actually it can be a little longer if they falsely imprisoned you and did so whilst
[13:51.560 --> 14:00.880]  displaying a deadly weapon and did so under color of their authority as a public official.
[14:00.880 --> 14:09.080]  That's a first degree felony and I think the statute on that one is like 20 years.
[14:09.080 --> 14:12.760]  Hmm, well that's interesting.
[14:12.760 --> 14:13.760]  Nobody has...
[14:13.760 --> 14:16.760]  I'd like to thank you for taking my phone call and thank you for answering my questions.
[14:16.760 --> 14:18.120]  I really appreciate it.
[14:18.120 --> 14:19.120]  You are most welcome.
[14:19.120 --> 14:20.120]  All right, I'll be listening.
[14:20.120 --> 14:23.120]  All right, thanks, George.
[14:23.120 --> 14:29.560]  Okay, we are going now to first time caller Eddie in Illinois.
[14:29.560 --> 14:30.960]  Eddie, thanks for calling in.
[14:30.960 --> 14:31.960]  What's on your mind tonight?
[14:31.960 --> 14:32.960]  What's your question?
[14:32.960 --> 14:33.960]  Thanks for taking my call.
[14:33.960 --> 14:43.480]  I'm in a foreclosure case and what I was summoned to court the first time, but I was able to
[14:43.480 --> 14:48.800]  prevail on the jurisdiction matter, but then the judge informed me and said, well, you
[14:48.800 --> 14:53.880]  know, they can at least try again to serve you, you know.
[14:53.880 --> 14:58.520]  Okay, okay, stop, stop.
[14:58.520 --> 15:03.440]  What level of foreclosure, where are you at in the foreclosure process?
[15:03.440 --> 15:05.360]  I guess the beginning level.
[15:05.360 --> 15:10.400]  So has the lender accelerated the note?
[15:10.400 --> 15:17.800]  Yes, because that would have made that would be the case when he takes me as foreclosure.
[15:17.800 --> 15:22.880]  Okay, is Illinois a judicial foreclosure state, do they have to go to court to do it?
[15:22.880 --> 15:23.880]  Yes, they do.
[15:23.880 --> 15:25.440]  Okay, they file for foreclosure.
[15:25.440 --> 15:27.440]  Have you filed an answer?
[15:27.440 --> 15:32.360]  Well, I haven't filed an answer back, no, because I was questioned jurisdictionally.
[15:32.360 --> 15:35.120]  You know, you file an answer back, you're out of my jurisdiction.
[15:35.120 --> 15:37.520]  No, no, you don't know.
[15:37.520 --> 15:41.640]  Those guys are full of crapola when they tell you that.
[15:41.640 --> 15:47.440]  File your challenge to the jurisdiction, but file the answer anyway, because you have a
[15:47.440 --> 15:50.200]  time limit in filing the answer.
[15:50.200 --> 15:55.160]  The challenge to the jurisdiction doesn't affect the time limit if the court rules that
[15:55.160 --> 15:59.040]  the other side has jurisdiction.
[15:59.040 --> 16:03.800]  If they had it all along, you had to make the time limit.
[16:03.800 --> 16:12.480]  Compliant, protecting your other rights doesn't negate your claim to subject matter, claim
[16:12.480 --> 16:14.120]  on subject matter jurisdiction.
[16:14.120 --> 16:23.160]  So these guys who are saying that if you address the merits, you waive your rights, that only
[16:23.160 --> 16:28.760]  applies if you don't challenge jurisdiction.
[16:28.760 --> 16:35.080]  And subject matter jurisdiction can never ever be waived, ever.
[16:35.080 --> 16:42.680]  So when we come back, I'll address where you're at and see if we can offer some remedy.
[16:42.680 --> 16:50.080]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio, and we'll be right
[16:50.080 --> 17:02.760]  back on the other side.
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[18:34.840 --> 18:35.840]  All right.
[18:35.840 --> 18:36.840]  We're speaking with Eddie in Illinois.
[18:36.840 --> 18:37.840]  Go ahead, Randy.
[18:37.840 --> 18:39.840]  You're just about to address Eddie.
[18:39.840 --> 18:40.840]  Yes.
[18:40.840 --> 18:49.240]  Okay, how long has it been since they filed their original pleading?
[18:49.240 --> 18:58.120]  Oh, they filed their original pleading, I think, sometime in February.
[18:58.120 --> 18:59.120]  Okay.
[18:59.120 --> 19:05.400]  Then you are past the time, the time limit to file an answer.
[19:05.400 --> 19:06.400]  Have...
[19:06.400 --> 19:07.400]  Well, here's what happened.
[19:07.400 --> 19:08.400]  Wait, wait, wait.
[19:08.400 --> 19:09.400]  One question.
[19:09.400 --> 19:17.840]  Has the other side filed a motion for summary judgment, a motion for no answer summary judgment?
[19:17.840 --> 19:21.040]  No, they haven't filed that.
[19:21.040 --> 19:23.480]  You have time then.
[19:23.480 --> 19:29.680]  Once your time to answer passes, then you have...
[19:29.680 --> 19:36.040]  They can immediately file a motion for summary judgment for no answer, and that is a place
[19:36.040 --> 19:37.400]  you do not want to be in.
[19:37.400 --> 19:46.760]  However, if you get an answer in before they file a motion for summary judgment, then they
[19:46.760 --> 19:50.040]  waived their claim for no answer.
[19:50.040 --> 19:53.400]  So you need to get an answer in quickly.
[19:53.400 --> 19:54.400]  Okay.
[19:54.400 --> 20:02.280]  Now, this answer is going to be basically questioning your station, am I correct?
[20:02.280 --> 20:03.280]  No.
[20:03.280 --> 20:05.760]  You have to address the issue.
[20:05.760 --> 20:06.920]  I can help you with that.
[20:06.920 --> 20:11.280]  I have some materials I can develop for you that will give you...
[20:11.280 --> 20:18.200]  Actually, I have a suit that will choke a horse.
[20:18.200 --> 20:24.120]  And since they filed the original pleading, it doesn't cost you anything to countersuit.
[20:24.120 --> 20:28.320]  So you come back and sue the crapola out of them.
[20:28.320 --> 20:36.040]  You go in with a claim of fraud about 10 times the amount of the note.
[20:36.040 --> 20:41.680]  You accuse them of usury, which you get them 10 years in the federal penitentiary, trafficking
[20:41.680 --> 20:49.160]  in illegal securities, another 10 years in the federal penitentiary, state fraud, state
[20:49.160 --> 20:54.120]  conspiracy, commit fraud.
[20:54.120 --> 21:01.320]  And you ask for a whole lot of money, and then you demand to know who the heck are you
[21:01.320 --> 21:07.840]  and where do you have standing to come after my house?
[21:07.840 --> 21:15.760]  Because I have no doubt to you, when you created the loan, within three days, you sold it.
[21:15.760 --> 21:16.760]  That's right.
[21:16.760 --> 21:17.760]  Three days.
[21:17.760 --> 21:24.120]  And you got consideration, but you didn't give the person who you sold it to the deed
[21:24.120 --> 21:25.120]  of trust.
[21:25.120 --> 21:26.960]  You kept that.
[21:26.960 --> 21:32.120]  So you had this claim against the property, you sold the note and got all your money back,
[21:32.120 --> 21:35.120]  so your claim is void.
[21:35.120 --> 21:38.720]  And now you want to take this deed of trust and transfer it to somebody else, what's void
[21:38.720 --> 21:39.720]  already?
[21:39.720 --> 21:41.840]  It's garbage.
[21:41.840 --> 21:47.160]  And who's the guy holding the note, and where's the original, and how can he prove up the
[21:47.160 --> 21:54.700]  chain of custody to show that it was actually transferred to you, and who assigned the servicer
[21:54.700 --> 21:58.920]  of the note, the assignment, and who do they work for, and where do they get this?
[21:58.920 --> 22:01.160]  All kinds of questions to ask.
[22:01.160 --> 22:12.680]  Well, I checked my real estate records at the recorder's office one day last week, and
[22:12.680 --> 22:16.480]  I did see they had a corporate assignment, but I'm sure they just from documents they
[22:16.480 --> 22:17.480]  created on their own.
[22:17.480 --> 22:19.760]  Okay, here's the deal.
[22:19.760 --> 22:25.400]  Who is the person who signed that assignment?
[22:25.400 --> 22:28.120]  You want to depose that person.
[22:28.120 --> 22:30.360]  You want a resume from that person.
[22:30.360 --> 22:33.160]  You want to see everywhere they've worked.
[22:33.160 --> 22:41.520]  You want to see how they became a representative of the person who now holds the note.
[22:41.520 --> 22:43.340]  You want to see the note.
[22:43.340 --> 22:51.160]  You want to see all the signatures on the note and all the lounges attached to the note.
[22:51.160 --> 22:52.160]  These are the things.
[22:52.160 --> 23:00.160]  In order to stop foreclosure, once foreclosure has been done, from all that I'm looking at,
[23:00.160 --> 23:03.480]  the only way you're going to do that is file suit.
[23:03.480 --> 23:08.760]  Now, I realize you're a pro se and you don't want to go to court.
[23:08.760 --> 23:09.760]  I prefer not to.
[23:09.760 --> 23:13.400]  However, the other side doesn't either.
[23:13.400 --> 23:18.560]  Now, they want to go to court if they got everything stacked in their favor, but when
[23:18.560 --> 23:23.800]  you weigh it down on the other side, then they're not going to want to go to court either
[23:23.800 --> 23:31.080]  because we're going to tell the jury that that lender deliberately created a note that
[23:31.080 --> 23:35.760]  he intended to default.
[23:35.760 --> 23:41.400]  Intuitively that sounds like it would be incorrect because they run the risk of you not paying
[23:41.400 --> 23:42.400]  the note.
[23:42.400 --> 23:44.640]  Well, they used to.
[23:44.640 --> 23:45.640]  Not anymore.
[23:45.640 --> 23:49.240]  Now, the lender is no longer a bank.
[23:49.240 --> 23:52.040]  He's a securities broker.
[23:52.040 --> 23:54.120]  He gets you to sign this promissory note.
[23:54.120 --> 23:55.120]  It's like a check.
[23:55.120 --> 23:58.280]  A check is a security instrument.
[23:58.280 --> 24:01.360]  This note, when you sign it, becomes a security instrument.
[24:01.360 --> 24:03.880]  He sells it.
[24:03.880 --> 24:11.080]  So the more money, the more money he can get you to agree to pay, the more expensive the
[24:11.080 --> 24:15.440]  loan product, the more profit he's going to make when he sells it.
[24:15.440 --> 24:19.600]  Now, you'd think he would care about it being able to be paid back, but he don't.
[24:19.600 --> 24:25.720]  Actually, he doesn't want to be paid back because once he sells it, he gets more money.
[24:25.720 --> 24:27.200]  Then he becomes the servicer.
[24:27.200 --> 24:29.520]  If you pay on time, he gets 3%.
[24:29.520 --> 24:31.120]  You pay late, he gets 8%.
[24:31.120 --> 24:35.840]  It's in his best interest that you pay late, that you struggle to make your payments.
[24:35.840 --> 24:41.840]  Then if he forecloses, he'll average of making about 50 grand on the foreclosure, and he's
[24:41.840 --> 24:44.720]  not done yet.
[24:44.720 --> 24:48.560]  He sold the security instrument and kept the lien.
[24:48.560 --> 24:54.320]  Reason he kept the lien, hold it three years, file a 1099A, write the full amount of the
[24:54.320 --> 24:57.880]  lien off his capital gains tax.
[24:57.880 --> 25:03.400]  He gets paid a second time, and then he goes around behind everybody and bets on a credit
[25:03.400 --> 25:08.400]  default swap, exactly the thing that crashed the stock market.
[25:08.400 --> 25:10.320]  He bets that loan will fail.
[25:10.320 --> 25:16.760]  Well, it's a good bet because he created it for that purpose.
[25:16.760 --> 25:21.880]  And then the lenders get a $2 trillion bailout.
[25:21.880 --> 25:27.160]  I suspect that a jury is not going to be a happy camper when you tell them all of this.
[25:27.160 --> 25:28.720]  Oh, I'm sure they wouldn't be.
[25:28.720 --> 25:29.720]  And those guys on the other side...
[25:29.720 --> 25:30.720]  I'm not talking to you now.
[25:30.720 --> 25:31.720]  Pardon me?
[25:31.720 --> 25:36.360]  Did you say you had this in the form of a package or what have you?
[25:36.360 --> 25:45.000]  Yeah, just go look on remediesinrealestate.com and fill out the data input page, and I'll
[25:45.000 --> 25:47.880]  get you cooking.
[25:47.880 --> 25:54.200]  When anybody is at foreclosure's door, there's only one way to stop them, and that's with
[25:54.200 --> 25:57.000]  a lawsuit.
[25:57.000 --> 26:04.840]  And you want the lawsuit as big and bad and ugly as you can get it.
[26:04.840 --> 26:09.880]  Because you don't want them to want to go to court.
[26:09.880 --> 26:13.280]  And you don't want to go to court either.
[26:13.280 --> 26:16.600]  But you want to act like you want to go to court.
[26:16.600 --> 26:19.920]  You just wait until I get you in front of the jury, Bubba.
[26:19.920 --> 26:22.320]  The jury's going to eat you alive.
[26:22.320 --> 26:24.280]  And we'll make a claim of fraud.
[26:24.280 --> 26:28.400]  I've got a court date on the 25th, you know.
[26:28.400 --> 26:29.400]  No problem.
[26:29.400 --> 26:34.320]  When you file a countersuit, everything changes.
[26:34.320 --> 26:38.280]  You file a countersuit, motion for restraining order.
[26:38.280 --> 26:41.880]  Well, in this case, you don't have to because they haven't foreclosed yet.
[26:41.880 --> 26:46.320]  You file the countersuit, and they can't get to the end of the case till they hear your
[26:46.320 --> 26:47.320]  countersuit.
[26:47.320 --> 26:52.640]  And that's going to take them two or three years at best.
[26:52.640 --> 26:55.480]  Oh, I'd love to do that.
[26:55.480 --> 27:05.600]  Because what's going to take it so long is you want to depose the head trustee of the
[27:05.600 --> 27:09.800]  special purpose vehicle that's holding the note.
[27:09.800 --> 27:19.520]  Now, he's the head of an investment portfolio that's like $10 to $100 million.
[27:19.520 --> 27:30.040]  And when he gets it, he's going to be sued, and he's not going to be happy.
[27:30.040 --> 27:36.200]  He's going to say to this guy, you sold me 10,000 of these, and now this turkey over
[27:36.200 --> 27:41.480]  here is dragging me down to depose me so he can sue me every way from Sunday.
[27:41.480 --> 27:45.280]  You need to buy all of these back from me.
[27:45.280 --> 27:47.320]  That's who the lender's afraid of.
[27:47.320 --> 27:49.160]  They're not afraid of anybody else.
[27:49.160 --> 27:52.240]  They're afraid of that investor.
[27:52.240 --> 27:56.880]  And when we start to demonstrate we want to depose the investor because the nature of
[27:56.880 --> 28:02.160]  the questions we're going to ask the investor is going to tell the investor, these guys
[28:02.160 --> 28:07.760]  screwed you every way from Sunday, Bubba.
[28:07.760 --> 28:10.800]  We're going to fleece you because of what they did.
[28:10.800 --> 28:12.600]  They sold you this note.
[28:12.600 --> 28:18.000]  They created it by fraud and scammed you out all this money, and they did it so it would
[28:18.000 --> 28:22.000]  default and you would lose everything, and they'd make all this money foreclosing on
[28:22.000 --> 28:23.000]  your suit.
[28:23.000 --> 28:26.480]  And then they'd go around behind you and bet on it failing and make more money there.
[28:26.480 --> 28:29.680]  So they screwed you every which way from Sunday.
[28:29.680 --> 28:36.560]  My only question is fill out that data input page and look at it directly now, and that'll
[28:36.560 --> 28:37.560]  get me started with that.
[28:37.560 --> 28:38.560]  Yes, it will.
[28:38.560 --> 28:45.000]  And I'll run the numbers and get back to you, and we can talk about that off the air.
[28:45.000 --> 28:48.640]  Start getting the suit in and there are other things you can do.
[28:48.640 --> 28:49.640]  You see...
[28:49.640 --> 28:51.960]  Well, I'm looking forward to this.
[28:51.960 --> 28:52.960]  Oh.
[28:52.960 --> 28:53.960]  When you go before the court pro se.
[28:53.960 --> 28:59.480]  Don't they work your way here in the L.A. zone when you pro se they just walk, try to
[28:59.480 --> 29:00.480]  walk on you.
[29:00.480 --> 29:01.480]  Yeah.
[29:01.480 --> 29:02.480]  They're going to rule against you at every turn.
[29:02.480 --> 29:03.480]  That's okay.
[29:03.480 --> 29:04.480]  Don't worry about it.
[29:04.480 --> 29:12.640]  You see, because you're pro se, you're just a dumb stupid old pro se.
[29:12.640 --> 29:16.440]  You don't know you're not supposed to file bar grievances at the drop of a hat and judicial
[29:16.440 --> 29:20.920]  conduct complaints and petitions for co-warrant or removal.
[29:20.920 --> 29:22.920]  Just drive them crazy.
[29:22.920 --> 29:34.120]  Well, what happened here in Illinois, particularly where the court I go to, is that the judges
[29:34.120 --> 29:35.120]  take over.
[29:35.120 --> 29:40.160]  The attorney that stands there and all of a sudden the judge starts answering our indicates
[29:40.160 --> 29:41.160]  for them.
[29:41.160 --> 29:42.760]  We're going to break him from sucking eggs.
[29:42.760 --> 29:46.440]  We'll address that a little when we get back on the other side and then we need to go to
[29:46.440 --> 29:47.440]  other callers.
[29:47.440 --> 29:50.600]  But yeah, I'll address how we handle the judge when we get back.
[29:50.600 --> 29:53.760]  We take advantage of the fact that we're pro se and beat them up.
[29:53.760 --> 29:54.760]  Okay.
[29:54.760 --> 29:55.760]  Okay.
[29:55.760 --> 29:57.760]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[29:57.760 --> 29:58.760]  Okay.
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[31:00.800 --> 31:19.320]  Music playing.
[31:19.320 --> 31:38.120]  Okay, we're back, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio, and as Pro
[31:38.120 --> 31:47.720]  says, the judge considers us to be chumps, and they tend to rule against us out of hand.
[31:47.720 --> 31:55.440]  However, being Pro says, we have certain advantages.
[31:55.440 --> 32:01.600]  Like one of the things we do with this procedure is we file the initial suit, and we expect
[32:01.600 --> 32:07.960]  the attorney on the other side to immediately respond with a motion to dismiss for failure
[32:07.960 --> 32:12.240]  to state a claim on which recovery can be had.
[32:12.240 --> 32:17.920]  We hope he does that, because we're going to come back with a bar grievance, with a
[32:17.920 --> 32:22.000]  motion for sanctions for filing a frivolous pleading, we're going to treat the motion
[32:22.000 --> 32:28.920]  he filed as a request for more definite statement, we'll file an amended pleading that asks for
[32:28.920 --> 32:37.680]  more money, and in the amended pleading, we sue the attorney.
[32:37.680 --> 32:43.600]  Now the other side can't use that attorney anymore, they've got to hire another one.
[32:43.600 --> 32:49.360]  That attorney's got to hire an attorney to defend him, and when you file the bar grievance
[32:49.360 --> 32:54.160]  against him, most likely it's going to double the malpractice insurance.
[32:54.160 --> 32:59.520]  And here's his problem, he can't even complain about it.
[32:59.520 --> 33:04.560]  If he says one word about it, you file a bar grievance for that.
[33:04.560 --> 33:06.920]  Now attorneys never do that kind of stuff.
[33:06.920 --> 33:07.920]  They know better.
[33:07.920 --> 33:11.880]  They've got all this professional courtesy, but you're just a dumb old pro se.
[33:11.880 --> 33:15.840]  You don't know any better than to file a judicial conduct complaint against a judge every time
[33:15.840 --> 33:22.320]  he does something you don't like, and he can't say anything about it either.
[33:22.320 --> 33:29.100]  But what he can do is go to that other attorney and say, this guy's driving me crazy.
[33:29.100 --> 33:34.560]  You do something to get him off my behind, or you're going to pay, bubba.
[33:34.560 --> 33:37.920]  You can't do anything to you.
[33:37.920 --> 33:47.680]  So while we have our problems being pro se, if we conduct ourselves artfully, we can make
[33:47.680 --> 33:50.160]  up for that.
[33:50.160 --> 33:56.600]  So we have a lot going for you, and once you file suit, everything stops, if nothing else
[33:56.600 --> 33:58.600]  buys you go ahead all the time.
[33:58.600 --> 34:05.400]  I'm going to fill out this data input sheet in the next few minutes, and so hopefully
[34:05.400 --> 34:11.040]  I can get this thing all the way there, because that sounds like something I really, really
[34:11.040 --> 34:12.040]  want to do.
[34:12.040 --> 34:13.040]  Okay.
[34:13.040 --> 34:16.960]  You're going to like it when you're the one that's taking the fight to them, it's a lot
[34:16.960 --> 34:17.960]  more fun.
[34:17.960 --> 34:18.960]  I believe so.
[34:18.960 --> 34:19.960]  Okay.
[34:19.960 --> 34:20.960]  Thank you.
[34:20.960 --> 34:21.960]  Thank you for taking my call.
[34:21.960 --> 34:22.960]  Okay.
[34:22.960 --> 34:23.960]  You are welcome.
[34:23.960 --> 34:24.960]  And now we're going to move on.
[34:24.960 --> 34:25.960]  I'll be talking with you.
[34:25.960 --> 34:26.960]  Okay.
[34:26.960 --> 34:29.960]  Okay, we're going to move on.
[34:29.960 --> 34:30.960]  We've got David in Colorado.
[34:30.960 --> 34:31.960]  Hey.
[34:31.960 --> 34:32.960]  How are you guys doing tonight?
[34:32.960 --> 34:33.960]  Hey, David.
[34:33.960 --> 34:34.960]  Thanks for calling in.
[34:34.960 --> 34:35.960]  What's on your mind?
[34:35.960 --> 34:48.480]  Well, I've been working with Randy a little bit on one of these foreclosure cases out
[34:48.480 --> 34:50.360]  here in Colorado.
[34:50.360 --> 34:59.960]  And I'd had one of my mortgage companies that had answered back right away said that they
[34:59.960 --> 35:06.280]  planned to answer within the 60 days, and the other one, of course, that came back and
[35:06.280 --> 35:12.400]  said that they didn't need to answer the QWR or the RESPA letter that they fell outside
[35:12.400 --> 35:21.520]  of the jurisdiction of it, which thanks to Randy's talents here, we put that on the challenge.
[35:21.520 --> 35:32.840]  But now this company that originally received the RESPA letter and acknowledged it, now
[35:32.840 --> 35:38.960]  I got something in the mail yesterday saying that at this time they're asking the court
[35:38.960 --> 35:48.120]  for a motion ordering the authorization for the sale of the property.
[35:48.120 --> 35:52.480]  So I didn't know if Randy had a chance to look at that yet, but I was wondering if he
[35:52.480 --> 35:53.800]  could make a comment on that.
[35:53.800 --> 35:54.800]  Okay.
[35:54.800 --> 35:56.800]  Have they already went into foreclosure?
[35:56.800 --> 35:57.800]  No.
[35:57.800 --> 35:58.800]  Uh-oh.
[35:58.800 --> 35:59.800]  Good.
[35:59.800 --> 36:07.960]  Then they initiated the procedure in court ordinarily if they failed to, you know, when
[36:07.960 --> 36:16.760]  they saw this qualified written request, they said, uh-oh, this guy's coming for our throats,
[36:16.760 --> 36:23.560]  and they're taking their best shot, so if they're moving for sale of the property without
[36:23.560 --> 36:30.680]  foreclosure, they're going to have a problem, because you're going to come back.
[36:30.680 --> 36:34.820]  Hey, hold on one second, David, there's a lot of background noise on your line.
[36:34.820 --> 36:39.920]  Can you try to move to a quieter room or something, because we're having a hard time hearing what
[36:39.920 --> 36:45.920]  you're saying, and it's so loud that it's like almost overriding Randy.
[36:45.920 --> 36:47.400]  Okay, thank you.
[36:47.400 --> 36:48.400]  How is that fair?
[36:48.400 --> 36:49.400]  That's much better.
[36:49.400 --> 36:50.400]  Thank you.
[36:50.400 --> 36:51.400]  Okay.
[36:51.400 --> 36:52.400]  Go ahead, Randy.
[36:52.400 --> 36:53.400]  Okay.
[36:53.400 --> 36:59.000]  You know, the problem is they're trying to pull an end run, and we always like to be
[36:59.000 --> 37:00.000]  underestimated.
[37:00.000 --> 37:01.000]  Okay.
[37:01.000 --> 37:09.840]  If they haven't went through the foreclosure procedure, and they're moving the court to
[37:09.840 --> 37:18.400]  authorize sale of the property, then- Right, and that's how this reads here, as far
[37:18.400 --> 37:26.560]  as I can, as far as what I can tell it, it says that they, you know, that they wanted
[37:26.560 --> 37:31.760]  to file, you know, on an upcoming date, but yeah, they're already trying to put a motion
[37:31.760 --> 37:33.840]  in for the sale.
[37:33.840 --> 37:34.840]  Good.
[37:34.840 --> 37:43.120]  We will file a motion for sanctions, for filing a frivolous pleading, more grievance against
[37:43.120 --> 37:50.320]  the attorney, and a countersuit suing the lender and the attorney.
[37:50.320 --> 37:51.320]  Wonderful.
[37:51.320 --> 37:57.040]  So, you guys want to play hardball, we'll introduce you to hardball.
[37:57.040 --> 38:03.920]  Well, Randy, that's what we love about you out here is, you know, you're just way beyond
[38:03.920 --> 38:09.000]  us, just not scared to take these guys on at any, you know, no matter what game they
[38:09.000 --> 38:12.960]  want to play, you're ready for them, so I'm just so thankful for that.
[38:12.960 --> 38:17.080]  It turns out they're really chumps.
[38:17.080 --> 38:18.760]  They're not used to doing this.
[38:18.760 --> 38:24.240]  What they're accustomed to is somebody going on the internet and finding one of these documents
[38:24.240 --> 38:30.080]  and filling it out and sending it to them, and then they jump up and down and wave their
[38:30.080 --> 38:39.200]  arms and act mean and ugly, and the people cringe and duck and run for cover.
[38:39.200 --> 38:45.240]  What they don't expect is that they're being set up.
[38:45.240 --> 38:51.880]  The Qualified Written Request is just part of this document that we send to them.
[38:51.880 --> 38:58.120]  The Qualified Written Request portion is the portion where we claim an error in accounting
[38:58.120 --> 39:02.120]  and demand that they correct the error.
[39:02.120 --> 39:11.840]  There's also a demand for the original promissory note under 3-501.
[39:11.840 --> 39:16.960]  Now we don't tell them that we're demanding it under 3-501.
[39:16.960 --> 39:18.920]  We don't have to.
[39:18.920 --> 39:24.720]  I don't have to invoke a statute for the statute to have effect.
[39:24.720 --> 39:36.920]  3-501 says that if the lender petitions the debtor for payment and the debtor demands
[39:36.920 --> 39:44.800]  that they produce the promissory note, you know, if I go to the bank and I petition the
[39:44.800 --> 39:53.960]  bank to cash a check, they're going to say, well, I really would like to see the check.
[39:53.960 --> 39:57.700]  It's a security instrument.
[39:57.700 --> 40:03.780]  We have a lender trying to collect on a security instrument and you demand a security instrument.
[40:03.780 --> 40:11.680]  And under 3-501, if they fail to make the original available for inspection, they don't
[40:11.680 --> 40:18.440]  have to give it to you, but they have to make it available so you can inspect the original,
[40:18.440 --> 40:22.040]  then you can cease all payment without dishonor.
[40:22.040 --> 40:30.800]  And it acts as collateral estoppel from them collecting any further payments until they've
[40:30.800 --> 40:37.560]  complied with all contractual provisions and statutory provisions.
[40:37.560 --> 40:41.520]  Now we don't tell them that part.
[40:41.520 --> 40:47.600]  Once they fail to respond to the rest of the letter, they are estopped from collecting.
[40:47.600 --> 40:50.800]  And we also demand that they rescind the note.
[40:50.800 --> 40:54.080]  If you don't prove up all of these fees, prove they're all valid, rescind the note.
[40:54.080 --> 40:56.780]  Give me back all my money, take your property.
[40:56.780 --> 40:58.000]  And they will deny rescindion.
[40:58.000 --> 41:02.880]  The problem is they don't have authority to deny rescindion.
[41:02.880 --> 41:09.760]  So we maintain 20 days after you send us that letter denying rescindion, the clocks run
[41:09.760 --> 41:11.040]  out.
[41:11.040 --> 41:18.440]  After rescindion, the lender has 20 days to recover his property or the borrower may retain
[41:18.440 --> 41:21.980]  the property with no further obligation.
[41:21.980 --> 41:25.640]  So when we sue, we maintain that.
[41:25.640 --> 41:29.960]  When it's res judicata, it's already a done deal, give me the quiet title.
[41:29.960 --> 41:32.800]  Now we sue you for a whole lot of money.
[41:32.800 --> 41:38.880]  So we set them on a really steep uphill climb to start with.
[41:38.880 --> 41:46.200]  And when they get this suit, we spent a long time researching this suit and it's designed
[41:46.200 --> 41:52.560]  to be almost impossible for them to answer in the time they have to answer.
[41:52.560 --> 41:59.040]  When their last data answer shows up, bam, motion for summary judgment.
[41:59.040 --> 42:05.320]  So they're going to find out that we set them up.
[42:05.320 --> 42:08.920]  So it's going to be interesting to watch how this one shakes out.
[42:08.920 --> 42:16.440]  Things so far and that last letter that you'd helped me with on my second mortgage, that's
[42:16.440 --> 42:18.160]  got some real teeth to that.
[42:18.160 --> 42:24.000]  But yeah, I was just so surprised that this company said that they'd received the rest
[42:24.000 --> 42:31.440]  of a plan to answer and then turn around here within a week later and sending out this motion
[42:31.440 --> 42:36.000]  asking for the sale.
[42:36.000 --> 42:39.520]  And I've gotten a couple of collection phone calls as well.
[42:39.520 --> 42:40.520]  Oh, goody.
[42:40.520 --> 42:44.240]  Yeah, I thought I'd let you know I've logged those in.
[42:44.240 --> 42:47.000]  Yeah, Mike Mears would be glad to hear about that.
[42:47.000 --> 42:50.000]  Yeah, I've talked about it as well.
[42:50.000 --> 42:51.600]  Those dirty rotten bushwhackers.
[42:51.600 --> 42:52.600]  Absolutely.
[42:52.600 --> 42:56.280]  We'll see if we can't do a little bushwhack of our own.
[42:56.280 --> 42:57.640]  Yes, we will.
[42:57.640 --> 43:02.480]  So thank you very much, Randy, appreciate it and again, thank you guys for being on
[43:02.480 --> 43:03.480]  the air.
[43:03.480 --> 43:06.200]  It's the best radio show there is in the country.
[43:06.200 --> 43:07.800]  I wish everybody listened to it.
[43:07.800 --> 43:11.800]  Thank you very much and I'll send you a check for giving us that plug.
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[43:18.120 --> 43:21.320]  We work very hard for you guys, all of us do.
[43:21.320 --> 43:22.320]  Okay.
[43:22.320 --> 43:27.240]  Yeah, David's brother moved down here from Colorado and lowered the average IQ of both
[43:27.240 --> 43:28.240]  states.
[43:28.240 --> 43:29.240]  Oh, well.
[43:29.240 --> 43:30.240]  Okay.
[43:30.240 --> 43:31.240]  We appreciate that.
[43:31.240 --> 43:40.000]  We are going to break now and when we get back, we're going to go to Ken in Texas.
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[45:38.320 --> 45:42.320]  to Ken in Texas. Ken, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[45:42.320 --> 45:48.960]  Well, hi there. These are some questions for Eddie. And, Eddie, I just wanted to see, you
[45:48.960 --> 45:55.960]  know, I understand you have been a law enforcement official or, or peace officer. I'm not sure
[45:56.080 --> 45:56.800]  where you...
[45:56.800 --> 45:59.600]  Deputy sheriff. Peace officer.
[45:59.600 --> 46:06.600]  Deputy sheriff. Okay. I understand and I feel that most of us get radicalized, to use the
[46:10.040 --> 46:17.040]  phrase, into trying to assert our rights once we get screwed over by the local police. And
[46:17.040 --> 46:24.040]  I, so probably a lot of the callers coming in are struggling with how to deal with that.
[46:25.880 --> 46:32.880]  And I was hoping that you could maybe with, maybe with Randy or Deborah, do a little roleplay
[46:34.400 --> 46:41.400]  about it and how to handle trick questions by the police. Such as, you know, do you,
[46:41.800 --> 46:46.120]  I mean, I won't tell you what the trick questions are. You've probably been coached on that
[46:46.120 --> 46:53.120]  and maybe resisted it, but I know what some of the trick questions are. And also, I wanted
[46:53.120 --> 47:00.120]  to see if you could tell us, you know, the listeners in general, how to avoid triggering
[47:02.080 --> 47:09.080]  a policeman's worst reactions. Such as, I mean, I know if I get pulled over, I feel
[47:09.080 --> 47:16.080]  if I have my hand on the steering wheel where he can see him, when he approaches the car,
[47:16.080 --> 47:19.880]  he's probably going to be less stressed than if he can't see them.
[47:19.880 --> 47:26.880]  Well, that's possible. If I can, I'll interject a couple things while you're going here. First
[47:27.000 --> 47:34.000]  thing is, there's no real way to determine one of those answers, which is how to not
[47:34.000 --> 47:41.000]  activate his worst response. Main reason being, one, every person's mental attitude and, you
[47:43.440 --> 47:49.640]  know, demeanor is different. The other kind is, is you have no idea what kind of data
[47:49.640 --> 47:56.240]  this person's had, if he's just looking for somebody to have a problem with or not. The
[47:56.240 --> 48:03.240]  only thing you can do is control how you are in the given situation. You maintain your
[48:03.240 --> 48:10.240]  calm. You remain collected. You speak in a reasonable tone of voice. You speak levely.
[48:11.800 --> 48:16.800]  You don't go raising your voice. You don't go getting overexcited. Anything that results
[48:16.800 --> 48:23.800]  from that can then be placed squarely on the head of the officer as the instigator. Okay?
[48:26.440 --> 48:31.520]  So that's the first thing. You stay level-headed. You stay calm. You stay cool. You stay collected.
[48:31.520 --> 48:36.840]  It's okay to be nervous. It's okay to even be flustered. But don't be combative and don't
[48:36.840 --> 48:42.640]  be belligerent. You can stand your ground. I'm not saying act all meek and mild. I mean,
[48:42.640 --> 48:49.480]  I don't do that. But at the same time, I speak to them with authority that I know I've got
[48:49.480 --> 48:55.080]  and with confidence in the fact that I know whereof I speak. So the best answer to that
[48:55.080 --> 49:01.320]  is practice. If you want to know how to deal with a situation handily, then you have to
[49:01.320 --> 49:07.720]  treat it as if you're sitting in your armchair at home having a conversation with your kids.
[49:07.720 --> 49:11.960]  And you have to put yourself in that mental state. And you treat it like you're trying
[49:11.960 --> 49:17.760]  to teach your kids a life lesson. Okay? You know the old Andy Griffith show where every
[49:17.760 --> 49:21.640]  time he was dealing with Opie about something, where Opie would bring him a problem and Andy
[49:21.640 --> 49:26.320]  would have to figure out the best way to approach it to give him a life lesson out of the deal?
[49:26.320 --> 49:32.840]  That's what you're looking for here. You want to collectively get your thoughts in order
[49:32.840 --> 49:39.480]  before you engage the gears of your mouth. Okay? That will allow you not to be tricked
[49:39.480 --> 49:45.920]  into those questions you asked about. Think before you speak. But my main rule of thumb
[49:45.920 --> 49:51.560]  for most everyone out there that does not have experience dealing with this, nor the
[49:51.560 --> 49:56.960]  level of knowledge of study and research that I happen to have, not that that makes me a
[49:56.960 --> 50:01.280]  better person in any way, it's just simply the fact that I've got that knowledge and
[50:01.280 --> 50:09.120]  I know how to use it. But the main rule of thumb is rule number one, shut up. Rule number
[50:09.120 --> 50:17.040]  two, shut up. And rule number three is, of course, shut up. Anything you don't say can't
[50:17.040 --> 50:22.720]  be used against you, right? Right. And you cannot get in a situation where the officer
[50:22.720 --> 50:28.800]  can say that you're being combative, you're being belligerent. You've basically diffused
[50:28.800 --> 50:35.800]  any possibility whatsoever of the officer being able to draw you into a confrontation,
[50:35.800 --> 50:41.320]  whether it be verbal or physical, because you just simply don't respond to anything
[50:41.320 --> 50:49.040]  other than exactly what you're required to. Yes, and be cautious of a yes set. A standard
[50:49.040 --> 50:57.320]  procedure is to draw you in. Is this your car? That's a real easy question to answer.
[50:57.320 --> 51:08.800]  Do you have a license? Registration? What's your name? Once they get you answering questions,
[51:08.800 --> 51:17.600]  it creates a mental momentum and an expectation. Absolutely. It gets harder for you to stop
[51:17.600 --> 51:25.040]  asking questions, answering questions. I know what happens next. Then the cop says, when
[51:25.040 --> 51:30.880]  you stop answering questions, he says, well, what happened? You were answering questions
[51:30.880 --> 51:37.040]  before. Now you're acting suspicious because you're not answering my questions anymore.
[51:37.040 --> 51:44.840]  You're slowing down here. They're very good at this and understand they do this all the
[51:44.840 --> 51:52.200]  time. If you think you're going to be in a league with this officer, forget about it.
[51:52.200 --> 51:58.720]  He has the trappings of authority. He has the threat to raise against you and he has
[51:58.720 --> 52:07.000]  a lot of experience. The best way is to interrupt him on the front end. They start asking me
[52:07.000 --> 52:10.440]  questions and I say, wait a minute, wait a minute. Can any of the stuff you're asking
[52:10.440 --> 52:22.160]  me be used against me? Give them a question back. If I don't answer one of these questions
[52:22.160 --> 52:31.080]  right, are you going to throw me in jail? You can ask reasonable questions. I hope everybody
[52:31.080 --> 52:37.120]  seen this video that made the rounds of a college professor, a law professor, talking
[52:37.120 --> 52:45.880]  to his law students about when their clients should talk to the police. He was very artfully
[52:45.880 --> 52:55.920]  done. The upshot was never, don't talk to them. The best way to handle a policeman is
[52:55.920 --> 53:04.040]  ask him a very polite question. When he asks you a question, respond with a polite question.
[53:04.040 --> 53:14.520]  Are you going to be able to use this against me? If he breaks polite protocol at all, then
[53:14.520 --> 53:21.920]  you tell him, I need an attorney. I thought you were going to tell us about 9-1-1. I don't
[53:21.920 --> 53:28.800]  want to test that everybody do that. I'm a special pain in the neck. I have a special
[53:28.800 --> 53:34.240]  reason for being really angry at them. I'll vouch for that. Well, there's nothing they
[53:34.240 --> 53:43.920]  can do to me that doesn't pale into insignificance before the anger I have at them. Most people
[53:43.920 --> 53:49.640]  don't want to go to jail. They don't consider it an honor when you walk into the jail and
[53:49.640 --> 53:57.480]  the jailers recognize you. What are you doing here? I told them, I hope the room service
[53:57.480 --> 54:01.680]  is better this time. So the jailer come by with my little baggie of lunch, opened the
[54:01.680 --> 54:05.480]  door and he said, it's okay, don't get up. He drew back. They hit me right upside the
[54:05.480 --> 54:14.320]  head with the bag. I said, now that's room service. Most people find that to be a very
[54:14.320 --> 54:23.880]  traumatic experience and I don't suggest it. Eddie, one time I got pulled over and it was
[54:23.880 --> 54:33.200]  midnight. The policeman asked me the standard questions. I was driving an old Plymouth van
[54:33.200 --> 54:39.080]  with glass windows all around it. He starts shining the light through the windows looking
[54:39.080 --> 54:44.600]  down at my van and he says, well, what have you got back here? Got anything I should know
[54:44.600 --> 54:55.600]  about? I said, I'm not answering any of your trick questions. The whole tone of the detainment
[54:55.600 --> 55:04.360]  changed at that point. Was this in Texas? Yes. Okay. I recommend three questions if
[55:04.360 --> 55:11.800]  you must talk and three only. And the purpose of these three questions is to frame your
[55:11.800 --> 55:19.920]  situation as an actual custodial arrest for the purpose of going after this officer after
[55:19.920 --> 55:25.120]  the fact. The three questions are very simple and very straightforward. They are in the
[55:25.120 --> 55:31.640]  seminar course. The first one is, what is the emergency and how can I help? Now, why
[55:31.640 --> 55:37.560]  is that a reasonable question? He had the lights on. Exactly. He declared an emergency
[55:37.560 --> 55:43.040]  when he activated those lights. He flagged you down using his automobile. Obviously,
[55:43.040 --> 55:50.320]  he needs your assistance with something. Because you didn't do anything wrong, so what does
[55:50.320 --> 55:58.240]  he want? How can I help you? When he opens his mouth, question number two, am I under
[55:58.240 --> 56:09.720]  arrest? And no matter what he says after that, am I free to go? Now, once he's done that
[56:09.720 --> 56:16.540]  and responded as you expect him to respond, he has clearly indicated under all the necessities
[56:16.540 --> 56:24.640]  of law that you are in a custodial arrest. And once he does that and fails to read you
[56:24.640 --> 56:30.880]  your rights, it doesn't matter if you sing like a canary, no statement collected can
[56:30.880 --> 56:37.300]  be used against you because you are being interrogated in a custodial arrest and you
[56:37.300 --> 56:46.480]  have not been advised of your rights. A custodial arrest? I mean, we can drop custodial. It's
[56:46.480 --> 56:52.320]  an arrest, isn't it? No. The courts have declared there's a difference between a detainment
[56:52.320 --> 56:59.280]  and a custodial arrest. And anything you say during a detainment can be used against you
[56:59.280 --> 57:06.960]  because it's considered voluntary. In a custodial arrest, however, no statement can be used
[57:06.960 --> 57:12.360]  against you if you have not been apprised of your rights and voluntarily waived those
[57:12.360 --> 57:21.200]  rights. And in Texas, the law is very clear. The moment that officer activates the lights
[57:21.200 --> 57:27.920]  on that cruiser and pulls you over, you are in a custodial arrest. All you're doing is
[57:27.920 --> 57:34.600]  making the officer state that for a fact for the record on his video camera and his recording
[57:34.600 --> 57:39.880]  device. The microphone he carries with him. Exactly. And if you're smart, you've got at
[57:39.880 --> 57:50.840]  least one on you doing exactly the same thing. So when it comes to talking to the officers,
[57:50.840 --> 57:57.760]  that's as far as I recommend you go. Well, I know you actually recommend going less than
[57:57.760 --> 58:04.640]  that because I have your traffic seminar and you have the traffic affidavit. Yeah. You
[58:04.640 --> 58:10.360]  give that to them and that's all you need to say. But you can take it for what it is.
[58:10.360 --> 58:14.640]  But those three questions are an absolute necessity. But we are about to go on a break.
[58:14.640 --> 58:18.160]  If you'll hang on, if you've got any other comments on it, we'll pick it up on the other
[58:18.160 --> 58:22.320]  side. We'll go to somebody else. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks, sir. It's real
[58:48.160 --> 59:06.400]  time. It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the internet isn't
[59:06.400 --> 59:10.960]  so easy and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. Oh, well, I guess
[59:10.960 --> 59:16.080]  you haven't heard of Brave New Books then. Brave New Books? Yes. Brave New Books has all
[59:16.080 --> 59:21.480]  the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[59:21.480 --> 59:26.800]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps. There's no way a place like
[59:26.800 --> 59:32.120]  that exists. Go check it out for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just
[59:32.120 --> 59:38.120]  south of UT. By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there. Actually, they now offer
[59:38.120 --> 59:43.520]  a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility just behind
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[59:57.440 --> 01:00:03.440]  events page at bravenewbookstore.com. This news brief brought to you by the International
[01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:09.520]  News Net. U.S. farmers' use of Monsanto's Weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth
[01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:14.520]  of tenacious new superweeds. To fight them, farmers are being forced to spray fields with
[01:00:14.520 --> 01:00:22.320]  more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand, and return to regular plowing. As crude oil
[01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:26.800]  continued to pour into the Gulf of Mexico Friday, questions were being asked over the
[01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:32.240]  relationship between BP and government regulators. The company is alleged to have been allowed
[01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:38.040]  to drill the deep water well without filing plans for how it would cope with a major blowout.
[01:00:38.040 --> 01:00:46.360]  Israel's ambassador to the U.K., Ron Prosor, claims Israel is being, quote, de-legitimized
[01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:53.560]  and demonized by misinformed British public opinion. Faisal Shahzad, the alleged Times
[01:00:53.560 --> 01:00:59.760]  Square bomber, was disowned by the Pakistani Taliban Thursday as U.S. politicians called
[01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.280]  for him to be stripped of his U.S. citizenship so he can be tried by a military tribunal.
[01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:10.040]  Shahzad was praised by a Pakistani Taliban spokesman who said, quote, we don't even
[01:01:10.040 --> 01:01:16.040]  know him. Hours after Shahzad allegedly left a Nissan Pathfinder near Times Square last
[01:01:16.040 --> 01:01:21.400]  Saturday, the Pakistani Taliban appeared to claim responsibility for the failed attack
[01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:26.480]  in a YouTube video. However, the spokesman said his organization had been framed for
[01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:33.120]  the attack. At the same time, Pakistan's ambassador to Washington, Hussein Haqqani, insisted it
[01:01:33.120 --> 01:01:39.960]  was premature to link Shahzad to Qari Hussein Mesud, the Pakistani Taliban's chief bomb
[01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:45.280]  maker. Pakistan's cooperation in questioning Shahzad's associates and reconstructing his
[01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:51.400]  activities is seen in Washington as a vital test of its willingness to crack down on militant
[01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.600]  groups operating from Waziristan.
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[01:01:58.520 --> 01:02:04.560]  Paul Arrows, co-author of American assassination, the strange death of Senator Paul Wellstone,
[01:02:04.560 --> 01:02:11.280]  Thursday reported a conversation in which Senator Barbara Boxer confirmed the 2002 Senator
[01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:17.000]  Paul Wellstone plane crash was an assassination. Paul Arrows told the Kevin Barrett radio
[01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.760]  show a friend of his, during a conversation with Senator Boxer, was surprised when the
[01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:27.480]  senator said, quote, the Wellstone assassination was meant as a warning to all of us. Senator
[01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.840]  Boxer said if asked, she would deny making the statement. Senator Boxer, who other sources
[01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:38.680]  report has admitted she knows 9-11 was an inside job, has publicly confirmed she did
[01:02:38.680 --> 01:02:43.840]  not trust the 9-11 commission's version of events. Senator Boxer said, quote, we need
[01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:49.880]  to pursue the truth about 9-11 wherever it leads. According to Paul Arrows, Senator Boxer
[01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.840]  and other high visibility people know that if they cross certain lines, they and all
[01:02:54.840 --> 01:03:00.000]  their families will be assassinated. This news brief brought to you by the International
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[01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  All right, we are going to your calls. We've got John, Scott, Danny, Michael. John in Colorado,
[01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.000]  thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  Thank you for taking my call. I was listening to the archives from last fall. I believe
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  it was you, Deborah. You mentioned something about the rebalancing on your property taxes,
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  the land value versus the structure value. Was that you and could you describe what the
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  implications are?
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  Yes, that was a while back. What's going on and it's a difficult thing to fight if
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:35.000]  it's even possible. The way that the laws are structured here in Texas concerning protesting
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:45.000]  the appraisal values of the county appraisal districts. You can under state law, the way
[01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:52.400]  that the whole protest mechanism is structured, you can protest the appraisal of the overall
[01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:59.400]  property value, but there's no mechanism to protest the breakdown, the individual breakdown
[01:05:00.640 --> 01:05:07.640]  between the land and the building. What happened one year, a few years back in our neighborhood
[01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:17.640]  and it turned out that they were doing it to all the neighborhoods. What they did was,
[01:05:17.640 --> 01:05:24.640]  say for example, a house in a property in this neighborhood, normally, let's just say
[01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:31.640]  for example, $200,000 appraisal value on one year. Typically, the land would be appraised
[01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:42.640]  at about a quarter of that, like say $50,000 and the building would be appraised at $150,000.
[01:05:42.640 --> 01:05:49.640]  Then all of a sudden, one year, they reversed those figures and all of a sudden, the land
[01:05:57.160 --> 01:06:04.160]  is now worth $150,000 and the building is worth $50,000. At first, I thought it was
[01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:11.160]  a typo and then there was a bunch of brouhaha on the neighborhood forum, like the email
[01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:21.960]  forum list. Everyone was like, excuse me, how did the building structure of my property
[01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:30.960]  lose $150,000 of value in one year? If you want to raise the value of the land, that's
[01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:37.960]  one thing, but you're going to diminish the value of the building in one year by $150,000?
[01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:48.520]  By $100,000, give me a break. We tried to protest it, but there was no protest mechanism
[01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:57.800]  because you can't protest the individual breakdown of the land and value. You can only protest
[01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:04.800]  the overall property value. None of these property appraisals and property tax protest
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:12.440]  organizations or even attorneys wanted to help any of us because, hey, what are you
[01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:18.600]  complaining about? Your property value didn't go up. The overall value, you're not going
[01:07:18.600 --> 01:07:25.600]  to end up paying any more taxes. What's the big problem? We all knew what the big problem
[01:07:25.600 --> 01:07:32.600]  was because the big problem was that it sets the stage for developer bait is what I call
[01:07:33.120 --> 01:07:40.000]  it. Developers would come in. It sets the stage for gentrification where developers
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  will come in and buy a property and then knock down the house and then build another house
[01:07:48.240 --> 01:07:53.640]  and now all of a sudden it's a brand new house on this piece of property and now the whole
[01:07:53.640 --> 01:08:00.640]  thing's worth $400,000. The other implication and so then what ends up happening is that
[01:08:02.040 --> 01:08:07.680]  it drives up the property taxes within a matter of years. It's a big scam. It's a big racket
[01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:13.720]  between the developers and the appraisal districts so that there can be more revenue for the
[01:08:13.720 --> 01:08:19.680]  tax office and so the developers can come in and scarf up these older neighborhoods
[01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.920]  where people have owned their homes for 30, 40 years. They're retired. They've paid off
[01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:31.400]  their mortgages so you think about it. The mortgage companies aren't making any money
[01:08:31.400 --> 01:08:37.320]  because the mortgages are already paid. They don't like that. They want mortgages on all
[01:08:37.320 --> 01:08:42.160]  these properties so they can be raking in the dose so how do we get out the people who
[01:08:42.160 --> 01:08:47.400]  are already there and how do we make more money? The other implication about reversing
[01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:54.400]  the land and the building value like that is because most of the time if the building
[01:08:55.320 --> 01:09:02.320]  is worth less than the land, you can't get a mortgage. You can't take out a home equity
[01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:09.520]  loan. It's considered a high risk type of property and so what happens is that if somebody
[01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:16.520]  wants to come in and buy a home, a property in the neighborhood, they can't get a mortgage.
[01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:23.560]  The banks won't let you have one if the building value is worth that much less than the land
[01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:30.600]  and so that means the only entities that can buy the properties are the developers and
[01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.640]  then they knock the buildings down and they build new buildings and then they jack up
[01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.640]  the taxes and then the people who have lived here all their lives can't afford to live
[01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:44.640]  here anymore. It's a big racket scam and it's very sad and we're still trying to figure
[01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:52.520]  out a way to fight it because under the tax code, if Texas, there's no mechanism for the
[01:09:54.160 --> 01:10:01.160]  administrative protest procedure that is outlined under state law to protest the individual
[01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:06.200]  breakdown of the land and the value so all we can do is file lawsuits for fraud and these
[01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:11.600]  types of things and I just haven't gotten around to being able to do it yet and what's
[01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:17.560]  happening is that most people are struggling right now and you've got retired couples
[01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:23.840]  that are now being, they're having to face moving out of their homes that they lived
[01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.720]  in all their lives and raised their kids and they're on fixed incomes and now they've got
[01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:34.000]  to go live out in the ghetto because of this crap ola of switching around the values of
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  the land and the building and when we try to pressure the appraisal office about why
[01:10:42.040 --> 01:10:49.040]  are they doing this and they say oh well because we haven't raised the value of the land for
[01:10:50.480 --> 01:10:56.480]  a while and we've got to catch up but they have no proof and we challenged it, we showed
[01:10:56.480 --> 01:11:02.200]  like from the MLS, we got MLS listings and stuff from the real estate agents and it's
[01:11:02.200 --> 01:11:09.200]  like there is nothing going on here that would be any evidence whatsoever for them to appraise
[01:11:11.040 --> 01:11:16.560]  in such a manner but they just do it anyway and you can't fight it because there's nothing,
[01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:21.360]  there's no remedy under law for that so the only thing you can do is like file lawsuits
[01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:25.080]  for fraud and stuff like that. That's the only remedy that we've been able to see and
[01:11:25.080 --> 01:11:30.440]  like I said I just haven't had a chance to pursue it yet but that's the deal with switching
[01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:36.840]  around the land and value. Now in other states it may be different. You may under the property
[01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:42.720]  tax code in other states you may be able to protest the appraisals of the individual breakdown
[01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:49.040]  between the land and value but not around here so it is a problem. That's their new
[01:11:49.040 --> 01:11:55.880]  little technique that they got for gentrification of neighborhoods that should not be being
[01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:01.920]  gentrified because the houses around here are in very good shape and very nice. They
[01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:07.960]  just want more money and they want to do away with the elementary school too. That's another
[01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:14.960]  big scam because they don't want to have to pay for a school. They'd rather knock it down
[01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:23.760]  and have apartments there or more houses so they can be collecting tax dollars instead
[01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:29.720]  of having to use tax dollars to fund it. They want to shut down all the elementary schools
[01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:36.720]  all around any of the neighborhoods and then people have to bust their little children
[01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:44.400]  to elementary schools far away. It's sickening. It's totally sick I'm telling you and we're
[01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:50.280]  doing everything we can to fight it but it's difficult. I've got so many fights on my hands
[01:12:50.280 --> 01:12:55.320]  right now that that's just one that I haven't been able to get to yet. Does that answer
[01:12:55.320 --> 01:12:56.560]  your question John?
[01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:01.720]  Yeah, the first part. I'm in the rural area and I looked at my property tax statement
[01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.560]  and the value is increasing faster than the structural value and I was wondering why because
[01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:07.360]  I'm not...
[01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:12.360]  You've got a real bad connection John. We can't hear you very well. It's a little staticky.
[01:13:12.360 --> 01:13:15.040]  That's a little bit better, yeah.
[01:13:15.040 --> 01:13:22.040]  Okay, I'm in a rural area and what I was thinking is it appears that they're starting to raise
[01:13:22.360 --> 01:13:26.240]  the land value faster than the structural value and I was thinking what this is going
[01:13:26.240 --> 01:13:30.000]  to do is it's going to hit the unbuilt lot because then they're going to be able to do
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.640]  a comparison with my lot value and it does have a structure against the unbuilt lot and
[01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:42.080]  then go to the unbuilt lot person and jack them up on the property tax rate. Maybe that's
[01:13:42.080 --> 01:13:45.600]  how it's going to work in the rural areas. Now I had a sort of related question. I went
[01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:52.600]  in my property tax bill and I went in with a box of these one dollar coins and they refused
[01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:54.440]  to take them.
[01:13:54.440 --> 01:13:58.720]  Probably because for taxes they want Federal Reserve notes.
[01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:04.720]  Well, the legal tender laws say they include the word coin and so it's still tender and
[01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:09.720]  I looked on the US Treasury website for this and it appears... I wonder if you have any
[01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.720]  excuse about this. It appears to me now the debt is discharged.
[01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.480]  Okay, John, I'm going to have to meet you because we can't really understand what you're
[01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:22.560]  saying. You may need to call back in but Eddie, Randy, can you answer his question?
[01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:28.480]  It depends on what the one dollar coins were. If they were silver dollars, yes, but if they
[01:14:28.480 --> 01:14:35.480]  were just one dollar's worth of metal, they're not legal tender. They have to be or if they
[01:14:35.480 --> 01:14:42.480]  were a gold or silver coin by the state and designated legal tender or they were legal
[01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:51.840]  tender produced by the Federal Government, then you could make the claim. But if they
[01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:58.840]  were just a dollar's worth of metal, you can't make that claim. They're not required to take
[01:14:58.840 --> 01:14:59.800]  it.
[01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:06.560]  Okay, we need to move on, John. I'm sorry. If you get a better connection, maybe you
[01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:12.160]  could call back in on another line or something because we can't understand hardly anything
[01:15:12.160 --> 01:15:14.760]  that you're saying because it's such a bad connection.
[01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:19.280]  All right, we're going now to Scott in Texas. Scott, thank you for calling in. What's on
[01:15:19.280 --> 01:15:20.120]  your mind tonight?
[01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:25.360]  Thanks for taking my call. I had a traffic stop that went bad the other day. I just wanted
[01:15:25.360 --> 01:15:32.360]  to pick your brain on it. I was pulled over for a registration tag that was out and my
[01:15:35.480 --> 01:15:41.360]  registration was good. It's just I hadn't posted on my windshield yet and so it was
[01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:47.400]  legal to be on the road. I got pulled over. When I got pulled over, I tried some things
[01:15:47.400 --> 01:15:54.400]  I learned on the Internet. I asked the officer if she could show me some identification,
[01:15:55.480 --> 01:16:00.480]  proper identification. She said, of course, her badge and her tag was good enough. Then
[01:16:00.480 --> 01:16:05.560]  I said, are you failing to identify yourself? Next thing you know, she called in the dogs
[01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.280]  and it was as if I was a terrorist. Cops came rushing to the car and ordered me to get out
[01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:16.400]  and I told them I preferred to stay in the car. Next thing you know, I got pepper sprayed
[01:16:16.400 --> 01:16:23.400]  and drug out and arrested. Is that a valid arrest for a registration sticker that's out?
[01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:32.840]  Well, technically speaking, no, but the question at that point is, is that why they arrested
[01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:33.640]  you?
[01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:38.320]  Do they have to have a valid reason for arrest?
[01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:41.040]  Well, that would normally be the case, yes.
[01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:47.080]  All right, Scott, hold on. Yeah, we're going to break. We'll answer your questions tomorrow
[01:16:47.080 --> 01:17:15.080]  on the other side. Then we've got Danny, Michael and Jackie. We'll be right back.
[01:17:17.080 --> 01:17:24.080]  We're located at 5448 Burnett Road, Suite 3 and we're open Monday through Friday 10
[01:17:35.400 --> 01:17:41.040]  a.m. to 6 p.m. Saturdays 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. You are welcome to stop in our shop during
[01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:48.040]  regular business hours or call 512-646-6440 with any questions. Ask for Chad and say you
[01:17:49.160 --> 01:17:55.120]  heard about us on Rule of Law Radio or 90.1 FM and get a special discount. That's Capital
[01:17:55.120 --> 01:18:11.720]  Coin and Bullion, 512-646-6440.
[01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:24.720]  All right, we are back. This is Eddie Craig, Granny Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law
[01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:29.720]  Radio. Okay. Now, where were you when this traffic stop occurred?
[01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:36.480]  Driving in the town here in Central Texas and the cop pulled around behind me after
[01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:43.480]  seeing the tag out and then came up to the window and everything went downhill from there.
[01:18:43.480 --> 01:18:48.360]  Okay. What was the reason they gave for your arrest?
[01:18:48.360 --> 01:18:55.360]  They said, when I asked, they said for registration being out and also when the girl came to the
[01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:02.520]  window, she asked for my insurance and I said it's current. Can you check your computer
[01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:06.080]  because I don't think I have a copy here in the thing.
[01:19:06.080 --> 01:19:12.160]  Okay. Here's the thing. Registration is under Chapter 502 Transportation Code which does
[01:19:12.160 --> 01:19:19.160]  not fall under Subtitle C, which is the Transportation Code subchapter where arrest without warrant
[01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:28.560]  is authorized. Only offenses under Subtitle C can be done without a warrant. Okay. 502
[01:19:31.240 --> 01:19:38.240]  is not under Subtitle C. Subtitle C starts at 541. All right. However, let me inform
[01:19:38.240 --> 01:19:42.240]  you as to what went through this officer's mind with your question.
[01:19:42.240 --> 01:19:45.240]  Okay. Are you failing to identify yourself?
[01:19:45.240 --> 01:19:49.240]  Right. First thought in their head is why is this
[01:19:49.240 --> 01:19:56.240]  guy so set on knowing my identity? Is this a setup to identify me for a hit?
[01:19:56.240 --> 01:20:02.240]  Right. Okay. What do you think the officer's response
[01:20:02.240 --> 01:20:07.240]  is going to be? Well, I understand all that but, you know,
[01:20:07.240 --> 01:20:12.240]  it's not that I'm not saying that it didn't go down bad but I'm just saying do they still
[01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:19.240]  have the right to do what they did? For arresting you for that purpose, no. Not
[01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:21.240]  according to what the law is. Okay.
[01:20:21.240 --> 01:20:27.240]  At least as far as the Transportation Code goes. However, we have a conflicting issue
[01:20:27.240 --> 01:20:32.240]  which Randy and I are working on and that is the fact that an arrest without warrant
[01:20:32.240 --> 01:20:37.240]  that does not involve a breach of the peace is inherently unlawful to begin with.
[01:20:37.240 --> 01:20:39.240]  All right. Okay.
[01:20:39.240 --> 01:20:47.240]  But 14.06 Code of Criminal Procedure, at the moment, the legislature has authorized
[01:20:47.240 --> 01:20:52.240]  just such an act for any criminal offense committed within the view of the officer
[01:20:52.240 --> 01:20:55.240]  regardless of what it is. Okay.
[01:20:55.240 --> 01:21:03.240]  All right. So they could arrest you for an offense that was stipulated as something
[01:21:03.240 --> 01:21:08.240]  that they were allowed to arrest for under the guise of any offense.
[01:21:08.240 --> 01:21:16.240]  The question we have to ask is does the limitation set by 543 negate the possibility
[01:21:16.240 --> 01:21:23.240]  of being arrested for that same offense under 14.06? And at this time we don't have
[01:21:23.240 --> 01:21:28.240]  enough information as far as the terms of a lawsuit or anything to make that
[01:21:28.240 --> 01:21:34.240]  determination just yet. Constitutionally speaking and common law speaking,
[01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:40.240]  it is unlawful and it was illegal. And right now there are a couple of lawsuits
[01:21:40.240 --> 01:21:45.240]  going through the Texas courts on that very issue dealing with exactly those
[01:21:45.240 --> 01:21:49.240]  sections. But that has not been ruled on as of yet.
[01:21:49.240 --> 01:21:50.240]  Okay.
[01:21:50.240 --> 01:21:55.240]  And it's been going on for three years to my knowledge.
[01:21:55.240 --> 01:22:02.240]  Well, also what happened at the scene as I was being drug off, I said to the
[01:22:02.240 --> 01:22:06.240]  officers, I do not give consent to search my vehicle.
[01:22:06.240 --> 01:22:11.240]  And when I showed up at the station, they tried to get me to sign the booking
[01:22:11.240 --> 01:22:15.240]  papers and on the booking papers it said that they found a Bowie knife that I'd
[01:22:15.240 --> 01:22:17.240]  had in the truck.
[01:22:17.240 --> 01:22:20.240]  And I knew they didn't have time to get a warrant between that short period of
[01:22:20.240 --> 01:22:23.240]  time and I knew I didn't get consent.
[01:22:23.240 --> 01:22:24.240]  It wouldn't make any difference.
[01:22:24.240 --> 01:22:26.240]  There's nothing illegal about a Bowie knife.
[01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:29.240]  It wasn't on your person, it was in your automobile.
[01:22:29.240 --> 01:22:30.240]  Uh-huh.
[01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:35.240]  But they wanted me to sign the booking papers to accept that charge and I
[01:22:35.240 --> 01:22:37.240]  refused to sign the booking papers.
[01:22:37.240 --> 01:22:40.240]  Well, there's no cause for you to have to sign them.
[01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:46.240]  The deal here is, okay, you did stipulate that they were not allowed to search
[01:22:46.240 --> 01:22:47.240]  your vehicle.
[01:22:47.240 --> 01:22:48.240]  Exactly.
[01:22:48.240 --> 01:22:52.240]  Now, they already had you in custody and in the car before, in the cruiser
[01:22:52.240 --> 01:22:56.240]  before they searched your vehicle?
[01:22:56.240 --> 01:22:59.240]  I was being picked up off the ground.
[01:22:59.240 --> 01:23:01.240]  I had pepper spray all over my eyes.
[01:23:01.240 --> 01:23:03.240]  I just barely could see off the side of my eyes.
[01:23:03.240 --> 01:23:07.240]  They were both in my car door starting to get inside the vehicle and that's
[01:23:07.240 --> 01:23:10.240]  when I warned them off the search.
[01:23:10.240 --> 01:23:15.240]  But they already had you in custody and could not say that they were in fear of
[01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:19.240]  you harming them by access to anything within the vehicle, right?
[01:23:19.240 --> 01:23:25.240]  Oh, I was cuffed feet and arms and completely covered in pepper spray.
[01:23:25.240 --> 01:23:26.240]  Okay.
[01:23:26.240 --> 01:23:32.240]  You do have the possibility of going after them for excessive force and the
[01:23:32.240 --> 01:23:35.240]  unlawful arrest and a few other things.
[01:23:35.240 --> 01:23:39.240]  But you're going to have to study hard and prepare for that to make it work.
[01:23:39.240 --> 01:23:40.240]  I understand.
[01:23:40.240 --> 01:23:46.240]  When they came at the car fast and hard and that actually caught me off guard
[01:23:46.240 --> 01:23:50.240]  and, you know, I guess anybody could be considered impossibly frightened by it.
[01:23:50.240 --> 01:23:54.240]  And when he ordered me out of the vehicle and I told him I'd choose to stay in
[01:23:54.240 --> 01:23:58.240]  my vehicle and then he reached his hand in and wrangled my finger and banged
[01:23:58.240 --> 01:24:00.240]  it and broke my finger.
[01:24:00.240 --> 01:24:03.240]  And then, of course, they'd pepper sprayed me in the face.
[01:24:03.240 --> 01:24:07.240]  It seemed kind of excessive since I wasn't trying to offer any threat.
[01:24:07.240 --> 01:24:12.240]  Well, but you were inside a vehicle where they could not see you, okay?
[01:24:12.240 --> 01:24:13.240]  Right.
[01:24:13.240 --> 01:24:21.240]  You should exit the vehicle if they order you to as long as you can establish,
[01:24:21.240 --> 01:24:24.240]  you know, that you are being ordered to do that.
[01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:25.240]  Okay.
[01:24:25.240 --> 01:24:30.240]  Now, once they've said that they've got a charge against you, you have to be
[01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:34.240]  aware that they are going to, at that point, rack up every additional thing
[01:24:34.240 --> 01:24:38.240]  they can as it comes down the pike, okay?
[01:24:38.240 --> 01:24:39.240]  Right.
[01:24:39.240 --> 01:24:44.240]  The thing you need to be aware of is not to give them that opportunity.
[01:24:44.240 --> 01:24:48.240]  Stand up for yourself by all means, but don't do it in such a way as to get
[01:24:48.240 --> 01:24:52.240]  yourself injured or thrown in jail if you can avoid it.
[01:24:52.240 --> 01:24:53.240]  Right.
[01:24:53.240 --> 01:24:54.240]  All right?
[01:24:54.240 --> 01:24:58.240]  I did get incarcerated in jail for a couple days because I refused to
[01:24:58.240 --> 01:25:04.240]  give them a fingerprint or give them my photo or sign for them.
[01:25:04.240 --> 01:25:06.240]  And I didn't go with refusal.
[01:25:06.240 --> 01:25:10.240]  I went with conditional acceptance.
[01:25:10.240 --> 01:25:12.240]  In other words, counteroffer.
[01:25:12.240 --> 01:25:15.240]  Every time they offered it, they told me they gave me an offer to sign their
[01:25:15.240 --> 01:25:20.240]  papers or do their fingerprints, I gave them a conditional offer that I would
[01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:23.240]  do it if they paid me $20,000.
[01:25:23.240 --> 01:25:27.240]  And that did ward them off for quite a while.
[01:25:27.240 --> 01:25:33.240]  How it played out was I actually was sitting out in jail waiting for my 72 to
[01:25:33.240 --> 01:25:36.240]  go by, and they said, we have to take your fingerprints.
[01:25:36.240 --> 01:25:40.240]  And I said, well, I conditionally accept to find you paying me $20,000.
[01:25:40.240 --> 01:25:43.240]  And they said, well, we've got to take them.
[01:25:43.240 --> 01:25:44.240]  We're going to take them.
[01:25:44.240 --> 01:25:45.240]  Are you going to resist?
[01:25:45.240 --> 01:25:48.240]  And I told them I conditionally accept and won't resist, but you're going to
[01:25:48.240 --> 01:25:51.240]  owe me $20,000 if you take my fingerprints.
[01:25:51.240 --> 01:25:54.240]  And they did take my fingerprints.
[01:25:54.240 --> 01:25:58.240]  But I did not offer them up at all.
[01:25:58.240 --> 01:26:04.240]  They physically took my hands and put them on and took my fingerprints.
[01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:10.240]  Well, you definitely, if that's the charge they use to arrest you, then you
[01:26:10.240 --> 01:26:16.240]  have a defense because that does not fall under the lawful arrest portion of
[01:26:16.240 --> 01:26:21.240]  543 because 502 is not in that subtitle.
[01:26:21.240 --> 01:26:26.240]  The question then becomes is are they authorized since the transportation
[01:26:26.240 --> 01:26:31.240]  code has specific reference to an offense of that type?
[01:26:31.240 --> 01:26:35.240]  Do you have a way of negating 1406 in the process?
[01:26:35.240 --> 01:26:38.240]  That's going to be the argument that's got to be made.
[01:26:38.240 --> 01:26:40.240]  Right.
[01:26:40.240 --> 01:26:44.240]  Well, they dropped that knife charge off of the thing when I went in.
[01:26:44.240 --> 01:26:47.240]  They put me in front of the judge.
[01:26:47.240 --> 01:26:51.240]  And they finally set a bail for me.
[01:26:51.240 --> 01:26:54.240]  And then once they had me bailed out and I was almost out, then they said the
[01:26:54.240 --> 01:27:00.240]  only way you're going to get out of here is to get your photo and your signature.
[01:27:00.240 --> 01:27:03.240]  And I ended up folding at that point.
[01:27:03.240 --> 01:27:07.240]  Well, the thing is that's not a determination they get to make as to when
[01:27:07.240 --> 01:27:08.240]  you get out.
[01:27:08.240 --> 01:27:10.240]  That's up to the judge.
[01:27:10.240 --> 01:27:14.240]  But they're not going to let you see the judge if you don't comply with what
[01:27:14.240 --> 01:27:15.240]  they're doing.
[01:27:15.240 --> 01:27:17.240]  What they're doing is illegal.
[01:27:17.240 --> 01:27:18.240]  No question about that.
[01:27:18.240 --> 01:27:20.240]  It violates the law.
[01:27:20.240 --> 01:27:21.240]  All right?
[01:27:21.240 --> 01:27:22.240]  Right.
[01:27:22.240 --> 01:27:25.240]  But the problem is who are you going to tell it to to have them held
[01:27:25.240 --> 01:27:27.240]  accountable?
[01:27:27.240 --> 01:27:28.240]  Right.
[01:27:28.240 --> 01:27:31.240]  That's what I want to know because I actually went to the chief of police as
[01:27:31.240 --> 01:27:32.240]  soon as I got out.
[01:27:32.240 --> 01:27:34.240]  Of course, they wouldn't let me see the chief.
[01:27:34.240 --> 01:27:36.240]  And they had a lieutenant come down.
[01:27:36.240 --> 01:27:38.240]  And he is a smooth-talking salesman.
[01:27:38.240 --> 01:27:42.240]  And he told me that they can't arrest you for no registration in the state.
[01:27:42.240 --> 01:27:45.240]  They can arrest you for failure to show insurance.
[01:27:45.240 --> 01:27:48.240]  And that's why I was arrested.
[01:27:48.240 --> 01:27:55.240]  Well, as usual, the police officer is not cognizant of the law.
[01:27:55.240 --> 01:27:57.240]  They're just going to lie to you anyway.
[01:27:57.240 --> 01:27:58.240]  Right.
[01:27:58.240 --> 01:28:02.240]  It's just like the one that told me, oh, well, they don't have to read you
[01:28:02.240 --> 01:28:04.240]  your rights before they question you.
[01:28:04.240 --> 01:28:05.240]  Excuse me.
[01:28:05.240 --> 01:28:07.240]  Yes, you do.
[01:28:07.240 --> 01:28:08.240]  Uh-huh.
[01:28:08.240 --> 01:28:09.240]  Okay.
[01:28:09.240 --> 01:28:10.240]  Right.
[01:28:10.240 --> 01:28:12.240]  Well, you weren't under a custodial arrest.
[01:28:12.240 --> 01:28:13.240]  Well, let's see.
[01:28:13.240 --> 01:28:16.240]  I was at handcuffs in the back of a car being driven to jail.
[01:28:16.240 --> 01:28:18.240]  I'd pretty well call that custodial.
[01:28:18.240 --> 01:28:20.240]  Yeah.
[01:28:20.240 --> 01:28:22.240]  Yeah, they never did read me my rights.
[01:28:22.240 --> 01:28:24.240]  I guess they figured the crime was solved.
[01:28:24.240 --> 01:28:26.240]  Well, they didn't ask you any questions, though, did they?
[01:28:26.240 --> 01:28:27.240]  Right.
[01:28:27.240 --> 01:28:30.240]  Other than name, rank, and serial number type deals.
[01:28:30.240 --> 01:28:31.240]  Right.
[01:28:31.240 --> 01:28:32.240]  Okay.
[01:28:32.240 --> 01:28:33.240]  Yeah.
[01:28:33.240 --> 01:28:39.240]  They actually, when I refused to sign, they put me back in a cell.
[01:28:39.240 --> 01:28:42.240]  And then about five minutes later, they came and took me out and threw me
[01:28:42.240 --> 01:28:47.240]  into a rubber room with no urinal, no water, no, you know, anything
[01:28:47.240 --> 01:28:48.240]  for about five hours.
[01:28:48.240 --> 01:28:50.240]  And then when they came back in later...
[01:28:50.240 --> 01:28:52.240]  That was to soften you up.
[01:28:52.240 --> 01:28:53.240]  Right, right.
[01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:57.240]  They came back in later, and I said, are you ready to sign now?
[01:28:57.240 --> 01:29:02.240]  And I said, are you going to torture me until I sign?
[01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:04.240]  And he gave in and put me in a regular cell.
[01:29:04.240 --> 01:29:08.240]  Well, see, now you can make the claim of their actions being retaliatory.
[01:29:08.240 --> 01:29:10.240]  Right, right.
[01:29:10.240 --> 01:29:14.240]  Yeah, clearly they are, and no doubt.
[01:29:14.240 --> 01:29:18.240]  Randy, you got anything to interject on any of this so far?
[01:29:18.240 --> 01:29:24.240]  Well, you have a lot of accusations you can make against the officers.
[01:29:24.240 --> 01:29:25.240]  Right.
[01:29:25.240 --> 01:29:26.240]  And I'd start putting them together.
[01:29:26.240 --> 01:29:31.240]  The ones the best to go after are the jailers, the jailers who were there
[01:29:31.240 --> 01:29:34.240]  and did nothing to you.
[01:29:34.240 --> 01:29:36.240]  They're the ones that will scream the loudest.
[01:29:36.240 --> 01:29:38.240]  Gotcha.
[01:29:38.240 --> 01:29:40.240]  Okay.
[01:29:40.240 --> 01:29:44.240]  You go ahead and name everybody, but he means especially
[01:29:44.240 --> 01:29:47.240]  and including those guys that did nothing.
[01:29:47.240 --> 01:29:49.240]  Gotcha.
[01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:51.240]  Okay.
[01:29:51.240 --> 01:29:54.240]  Well, any more thoughts on it?
[01:29:54.240 --> 01:29:56.240]  We're about to go to break.
[01:29:56.240 --> 01:29:57.240]  Okay.
[01:29:57.240 --> 01:29:58.240]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:29:58.240 --> 01:30:01.240]  All right then.
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[01:31:14.240 --> 01:31:19.240]  Okay, Scott, Ranj concurred on the break that he didn't have any
[01:31:19.240 --> 01:31:22.240]  additional thoughts at this time.
[01:31:22.240 --> 01:31:24.240]  We're going to go to other callers.
[01:31:24.240 --> 01:31:27.240]  We're going to go to Danny in Texas.
[01:31:27.240 --> 01:31:29.240]  Danny, thanks for calling in.
[01:31:29.240 --> 01:31:30.240]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:31:30.240 --> 01:31:32.240]  And listeners, we have four other callers in the line.
[01:31:32.240 --> 01:31:36.240]  We've only got a half an hour left, so I'd like to go two per segment.
[01:31:36.240 --> 01:31:38.240]  So let's try to keep things efficient.
[01:31:38.240 --> 01:31:40.240]  Go ahead, Danny.
[01:31:40.240 --> 01:31:47.240]  Well, I have a question about the geographical jurisdiction of a JP court.
[01:31:47.240 --> 01:31:55.240]  I've got somebody who's got a public nuisance-type citation
[01:31:55.240 --> 01:31:59.240]  and sending him for magistrate to the other side of the county
[01:31:59.240 --> 01:32:01.240]  from where he's living.
[01:32:01.240 --> 01:32:06.240]  And I just think there's a question there about...
[01:32:06.240 --> 01:32:08.240]  Is he in the precinct?
[01:32:08.240 --> 01:32:14.240]  Yeah, he will have jurisdiction, not venue.
[01:32:14.240 --> 01:32:18.240]  So would that be the magistrate as well?
[01:32:18.240 --> 01:32:22.240]  The magistrate will have countywide jurisdiction,
[01:32:22.240 --> 01:32:26.240]  but he won't have venue except in his precinct.
[01:32:26.240 --> 01:32:28.240]  Okay, that's what I was thinking.
[01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:33.240]  So he tried to assign it back to himself, can't object for that,
[01:32:33.240 --> 01:32:35.240]  for being in the wrong...
[01:32:35.240 --> 01:32:36.240]  Yeah, that would go to...
[01:32:36.240 --> 01:32:37.240]  Trying to find it at the wrong court.
[01:32:37.240 --> 01:32:42.240]  Yeah, that goes to a jurisdictional issue.
[01:32:42.240 --> 01:32:43.240]  Yeah.
[01:32:43.240 --> 01:32:47.240]  The JP doesn't have jurisdiction if he doesn't have venue.
[01:32:47.240 --> 01:32:54.240]  He must have territorial jurisdiction and venue.
[01:32:54.240 --> 01:32:56.240]  Right, that's kind of what I thought.
[01:32:56.240 --> 01:33:00.240]  Do you know where I find that particular information?
[01:33:00.240 --> 01:33:02.240]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:08.240]  Did it originate in this JP's court?
[01:33:08.240 --> 01:33:13.240]  No, I mean, the first hearing is on Monday.
[01:33:13.240 --> 01:33:16.240]  It wasn't supposed to be the magistrate's hearing.
[01:33:16.240 --> 01:33:21.240]  Okay, it didn't originate in one venue and then get transferred to another?
[01:33:21.240 --> 01:33:22.240]  No.
[01:33:22.240 --> 01:33:24.240]  Okay, because they can do that.
[01:33:24.240 --> 01:33:29.240]  Yeah, the guy writing the citation assigned it to this other one across the county.
[01:33:29.240 --> 01:33:31.240]  So he needs to raise an objection to venue?
[01:33:31.240 --> 01:33:33.240]  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[01:33:33.240 --> 01:33:38.240]  Nuns Pro Tuck, inconvenient venue.
[01:33:38.240 --> 01:33:40.240]  Okay.
[01:33:40.240 --> 01:33:43.240]  That's the nature of the motion.
[01:33:43.240 --> 01:33:50.240]  Yeah, but what was that for the magistrate as well as for the...
[01:33:50.240 --> 01:33:57.240]  Okay, the magistrate, any magistrate, this is not an examining trial.
[01:33:57.240 --> 01:34:07.240]  This is a, he's not acting as a magistrate here, he's acting as a judicial officer, as a judge.
[01:34:07.240 --> 01:34:12.240]  Well, just, you know, Class A after citation, given the first hearing,
[01:34:12.240 --> 01:34:14.240]  it's supposed to be the magistrate, right?
[01:34:14.240 --> 01:34:19.240]  Well, if the judge is holding an examining trial, then he's a magistrate.
[01:34:19.240 --> 01:34:22.240]  If he's doing anything else, then he's acting as a judge.
[01:34:22.240 --> 01:34:26.240]  As a magistrate, he would have jurisdiction and venue.
[01:34:26.240 --> 01:34:28.240]  Okay, anywhere in the county?
[01:34:28.240 --> 01:34:30.240]  Anywhere in the state.
[01:34:30.240 --> 01:34:31.240]  Well, yeah, okay.
[01:34:31.240 --> 01:34:36.240]  Yeah, he can hear any complaint, felony or misdemeanor, anywhere in the state.
[01:34:36.240 --> 01:34:40.240]  However, if he's not holding an examining trial, which they never do,
[01:34:40.240 --> 01:34:45.240]  then he's acting as a judge, then he has to have venue.
[01:34:45.240 --> 01:34:47.240]  Yeah, well, that's about what I thought.
[01:34:47.240 --> 01:34:53.240]  But, well, you know where there's some citation for this?
[01:34:53.240 --> 01:34:56.240]  Look under Nuns Pro Tonk.
[01:34:56.240 --> 01:35:03.240]  Venue is the precinct, and you should be able to research that pretty easy.
[01:35:03.240 --> 01:35:07.240]  And look for Nuns Pro Tonk Motion,
[01:35:07.240 --> 01:35:12.240]  and that's a motion for inappropriate or inconvenient venue.
[01:35:12.240 --> 01:35:15.240]  Yeah, well, I thought the precinct would be easy, too,
[01:35:15.240 --> 01:35:20.240]  but I've been looking for a while and haven't found it necessarily found.
[01:35:20.240 --> 01:35:23.240]  I'll have to look through my jurisdiction folder.
[01:35:23.240 --> 01:35:25.240]  Yeah.
[01:35:25.240 --> 01:35:30.240]  I don't see, was there anything else right now?
[01:35:30.240 --> 01:35:32.240]  No, I guess that's all right now.
[01:35:32.240 --> 01:35:33.240]  This might go on.
[01:35:33.240 --> 01:35:35.240]  We'll maybe eventually get the question,
[01:35:35.240 --> 01:35:41.240]  is there a qualified prosecutor in the county, though?
[01:35:41.240 --> 01:35:44.240]  Possibly, but not a municipal attorney.
[01:35:44.240 --> 01:35:47.240]  Well, no, this is JP Court, so it won't be...
[01:35:47.240 --> 01:35:50.240]  So you'd have to be the county attorney or an assistant county attorney.
[01:35:50.240 --> 01:35:54.240]  Yeah, but they've got those certain requirements on them,
[01:35:54.240 --> 01:35:56.240]  licensing requirements and everything, right?
[01:35:56.240 --> 01:36:02.240]  Yes, and there's some questions as to whether the Supreme Court
[01:36:02.240 --> 01:36:05.240]  is actually issuing licenses or not.
[01:36:05.240 --> 01:36:07.240]  So we've got some issues on that.
[01:36:07.240 --> 01:36:10.240]  Well, yeah, I'll tell you a little story about that.
[01:36:10.240 --> 01:36:13.240]  Two years ago I saw this hearing going against the guy.
[01:36:13.240 --> 01:36:22.240]  For unlicensed practice of law, he was acting as a, what do you call that,
[01:36:22.240 --> 01:36:24.240]  an assistant attorney?
[01:36:24.240 --> 01:36:26.240]  District attorney?
[01:36:26.240 --> 01:36:29.240]  No, assist an attorney, not an attorney.
[01:36:29.240 --> 01:36:30.240]  Paralegal?
[01:36:30.240 --> 01:36:31.240]  Paralegal.
[01:36:31.240 --> 01:36:32.240]  Paralegal.
[01:36:32.240 --> 01:36:34.240]  Working as a paralegal under this attorney,
[01:36:34.240 --> 01:36:37.240]  although he had been doing things kind of on the edge several years before,
[01:36:37.240 --> 01:36:43.240]  but the guy, the attorney that he was working for, got on the stand and under oath
[01:36:43.240 --> 01:36:47.240]  in his hearing went through its qualifications that he had gotten
[01:36:47.240 --> 01:36:49.240]  and certificates and this thing and that thing,
[01:36:49.240 --> 01:36:51.240]  and he was member of the bar and good standing,
[01:36:51.240 --> 01:36:58.240]  and he does not know what constitutes a licensed practice of law.
[01:36:58.240 --> 01:37:00.240]  Most of them don't.
[01:37:00.240 --> 01:37:02.240]  Well, no, but they don't realize that they don't.
[01:37:02.240 --> 01:37:07.240]  Yeah, what he's testifying is nobody's got one.
[01:37:07.240 --> 01:37:08.240]  Yeah.
[01:37:08.240 --> 01:37:09.240]  He said he don't know what that is.
[01:37:09.240 --> 01:37:14.240]  He's got a bar card, but no license.
[01:37:14.240 --> 01:37:16.240]  Okay, well, I'll let you go.
[01:37:16.240 --> 01:37:18.240]  All right, thanks, Danny.
[01:37:18.240 --> 01:37:21.240]  Okay, we're going now to Michael in Maryland.
[01:37:21.240 --> 01:37:22.240]  Michael, thanks for calling in.
[01:37:22.240 --> 01:37:24.240]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:37:24.240 --> 01:37:25.240]  Hi, how are you all doing?
[01:37:25.240 --> 01:37:31.240]  So first question is, well, it's actually more of a statement, I guess,
[01:37:31.240 --> 01:37:33.240]  but anyway, you'll tell me.
[01:37:33.240 --> 01:37:35.240]  When I went to make a donation tonight,
[01:37:35.240 --> 01:37:37.240]  I noticed there were three ways to donate.
[01:37:37.240 --> 01:37:40.240]  One looked like it was, and I didn't notice it until after the fact,
[01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:45.240]  it was dedicated to the radio station or the micro,
[01:37:45.240 --> 01:37:49.240]  and then the second was Eddie and the third was the beer fund.
[01:37:49.240 --> 01:37:52.240]  Well, there is a donation for Rule of Law Radio.
[01:37:52.240 --> 01:37:53.240]  I missed that one.
[01:37:53.240 --> 01:37:58.240]  If you click on the donation button, yeah, it should go to the donation page.
[01:37:58.240 --> 01:38:01.240]  There's actually ways where you can subscribe,
[01:38:01.240 --> 01:38:05.240]  where you can have a monthly donation of, you know, 10, 20, 50,
[01:38:05.240 --> 01:38:07.240]  or there's other various amounts,
[01:38:07.240 --> 01:38:12.240]  or you can make a one-time donation of whatever amounts you want to the network.
[01:38:12.240 --> 01:38:15.240]  Okay, well, the next time I donate, I'll try to pay a lot closer attention,
[01:38:15.240 --> 01:38:16.240]  but just so you guys know,
[01:38:16.240 --> 01:38:21.240]  the donation that we made tonight for 50 was intended to be a general donation
[01:38:21.240 --> 01:38:23.240]  for you all to use as you self-fit.
[01:38:23.240 --> 01:38:24.240]  Oh, thank you.
[01:38:24.240 --> 01:38:29.240]  I would just do that if otherwise just don't want to encourage Randy to do too much drinking,
[01:38:29.240 --> 01:38:32.240]  so I'm not so sure about that beer fund, Randy.
[01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:35.240]  Don't worry, Randy can't do too much drinking.
[01:38:35.240 --> 01:38:41.240]  I was going to say, think net worth Randy's beer fund.
[01:38:41.240 --> 01:38:46.240]  The other question real quick I had, and maybe you can answer this after I hang up,
[01:38:46.240 --> 01:38:52.240]  had to do with recent revelations I've been hearing about Senator Boxer
[01:38:52.240 --> 01:38:58.240]  and how the death of this one other senator in a plane crash, you know,
[01:38:58.240 --> 01:39:00.240]  was in fact an assassination.
[01:39:00.240 --> 01:39:04.240]  I mean, it seems like it's a lot of hearsay, but just curious what your take on it was.
[01:39:04.240 --> 01:39:07.240]  Then the last question before I let you answer that is, Randy,
[01:39:07.240 --> 01:39:12.240]  I did send in the forensic fraud stuff that I've been talking about for months now,
[01:39:12.240 --> 01:39:16.240]  so that just happened tonight, and I also sent a follow-up email.
[01:39:16.240 --> 01:39:19.240]  It just seemed a little bit vague in the first couple of boxes there,
[01:39:19.240 --> 01:39:22.240]  exactly what information you wanted,
[01:39:22.240 --> 01:39:26.240]  so I'll be looking forward to whenever you might be able to get a chance to look that over.
[01:39:26.240 --> 01:39:29.240]  I know you're quite busy, but I'll be looking forward to that.
[01:39:29.240 --> 01:39:34.240]  I'm sorry it took so long, and I shouldn't be anxious since I took so long for you to get back to me,
[01:39:34.240 --> 01:39:39.240]  but I sure will be looking forward to seeing what you thought of what we sent over.
[01:39:39.240 --> 01:39:40.240]  It is a refinance.
[01:39:40.240 --> 01:39:45.240]  I don't know whether that plays into your analysis one way or the other.
[01:39:45.240 --> 01:39:47.240]  I'll hang up and listen to your thoughts.
[01:39:47.240 --> 01:39:54.240]  Okay, if it's a refinance, fill out a second one with the original note,
[01:39:54.240 --> 01:39:56.240]  and I'll run them both together.
[01:39:56.240 --> 01:39:58.240]  Okay.
[01:39:58.240 --> 01:40:00.240]  All right.
[01:40:00.240 --> 01:40:01.240]  Thanks, Michael.
[01:40:01.240 --> 01:40:05.240]  And yeah, I personally can't comment on that box or a thing
[01:40:05.240 --> 01:40:10.240]  because I haven't had a chance to research any of that yet.
[01:40:10.240 --> 01:40:12.240]  Guys, do you all have any comments on that?
[01:40:12.240 --> 01:40:13.240]  No, I don't yet either.
[01:40:13.240 --> 01:40:17.240]  I've heard about it, but I haven't heard anything of any actual detail.
[01:40:17.240 --> 01:40:18.240]  I do.
[01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:26.240]  I have no TV, no radio, so I don't get a lot of the network news.
[01:40:26.240 --> 01:40:30.240]  So I haven't heard anything about that actually.
[01:40:30.240 --> 01:40:35.240]  Well, I'm always all over Prisons Planet and Infowars and whatreallyhappened.com every day,
[01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:40.240]  but the last couple days I haven't had a chance to look at the news.
[01:40:40.240 --> 01:40:42.240]  Those are my sources of news.
[01:40:42.240 --> 01:40:46.240]  Man, whatreallyhappened.com is a great source of news, folks.
[01:40:46.240 --> 01:40:52.240]  Michael Rivera, oh, man, and he's got a show on GCN 2, very good source of news.
[01:40:52.240 --> 01:40:54.240]  I mean, it'll take you hours to come through everything.
[01:40:54.240 --> 01:41:00.240]  He's got a lot of good stuff there, and of course, you know, Infowars and Prisons Planet.
[01:41:00.240 --> 01:41:03.240]  I never miss what's on the toilet walls.
[01:41:03.240 --> 01:41:08.240]  It's just not very current.
[01:41:08.240 --> 01:41:11.240]  That's if you look up, right?
[01:41:11.240 --> 01:41:18.240]  So we had Jackie on the board, but now it seems like she has dropped off the line.
[01:41:18.240 --> 01:41:19.240]  This may be her.
[01:41:19.240 --> 01:41:23.240]  Jackie, is that you?
[01:41:23.240 --> 01:41:24.240]  No, no Jackie.
[01:41:24.240 --> 01:41:28.240]  Okay, Jackie, if you would call back in, please do so.
[01:41:28.240 --> 01:41:34.240]  All right, we've got one other caller on the board, and I haven't had a chance to screen it yet.
[01:41:34.240 --> 01:41:35.240]  Sorry, folks.
[01:41:35.240 --> 01:41:41.240]  I don't have any help screening calls anymore.
[01:41:41.240 --> 01:41:45.240]  Caller, what is your first name and what state are you calling from?
[01:41:45.240 --> 01:41:47.240]  This is Jackie from California.
[01:41:47.240 --> 01:41:48.240]  Okay, it's Jackie.
[01:41:48.240 --> 01:41:49.240]  You're back.
[01:41:49.240 --> 01:41:50.240]  You're calling in from a different number.
[01:41:50.240 --> 01:41:51.240]  Okay, good.
[01:41:51.240 --> 01:41:52.240]  What's going on tonight?
[01:41:52.240 --> 01:41:53.240]  What's on your mind?
[01:41:53.240 --> 01:42:01.240]  Well, this involves a traffic stop somewhat similar to the couple callers ago where things went bad really fast.
[01:42:01.240 --> 01:42:10.240]  We were actually already stopped by the side of the road having called 911, but then the police who promised to help,
[01:42:10.240 --> 01:42:15.240]  instead when they arrived on the scene, they immediately started treating us like criminals,
[01:42:15.240 --> 01:42:27.240]  and it ended up being an arrest for having – they had four charges for no car – this was in California –
[01:42:27.240 --> 01:42:39.240]  no car registration, no license, which I did have, and no insurance, and then also they had a marijuana possession,
[01:42:39.240 --> 01:42:50.240]  which the policeman had pulled a bag of green plant material out of his pocket and said, oh, I see marijuana.
[01:42:50.240 --> 01:42:57.240]  But then I thought that with California vehicle code, it really only applies to commercial drivers.
[01:42:57.240 --> 01:43:07.240]  I am working on a case, writing it up, but if you have any ideas I could use, I would like to hear them.
[01:43:07.240 --> 01:43:09.240]  Well, you are correct.
[01:43:09.240 --> 01:43:11.240]  If you research the statutes in California,
[01:43:11.240 --> 01:43:17.240]  they make it very clear that they apply only to commercial vehicles just like they do here in Texas,
[01:43:17.240 --> 01:43:21.240]  though California is even more direct and upfront about it.
[01:43:21.240 --> 01:43:27.240]  They are actually way clearer in that relationship than Texas is.
[01:43:27.240 --> 01:43:32.240]  They specifically state that is all they apply to.
[01:43:32.240 --> 01:43:36.240]  Now, we are about to go to break, but on the other side,
[01:43:36.240 --> 01:43:42.240]  please reiterate who it was who had the green leafy substance pulled out of their pocket.
[01:43:42.240 --> 01:43:48.240]  But hang on just a minute, we are going to break. This is Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:43:48.240 --> 01:44:01.240]  and we will be back in just a minute.
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[01:45:27.240 --> 01:45:29.240]  All right, we are back.
[01:45:29.240 --> 01:45:36.240]  Okay, ma'am, you were saying that someone was caught with a green leafy substance or produced it from their pocket.
[01:45:36.240 --> 01:45:37.240]  Who was that?
[01:45:37.240 --> 01:45:39.240]  The policeman did that.
[01:45:39.240 --> 01:45:41.240]  From his own pocket?
[01:45:41.240 --> 01:45:43.240]  Yeah.
[01:45:43.240 --> 01:45:48.240]  And you charged him with possession, right?
[01:45:48.240 --> 01:45:52.240]  Okay, that sounds good.
[01:45:52.240 --> 01:45:56.240]  Was he charged, but then he charged you with possession, right?
[01:45:56.240 --> 01:45:57.240]  Yeah.
[01:45:57.240 --> 01:45:58.240]  Yeah, so.
[01:45:58.240 --> 01:46:00.240]  I like Daddy's idea.
[01:46:00.240 --> 01:46:01.240]  Charge him with possession.
[01:46:01.240 --> 01:46:08.240]  Yeah, you charge him with possession, then you charge him with aggravated perjury for falsifying a charge.
[01:46:08.240 --> 01:46:11.240]  Okay, good.
[01:46:11.240 --> 01:46:17.240]  Now, do verify that these are actually on the books as criminal charges there in California.
[01:46:17.240 --> 01:46:21.240]  If your wording is not correct, the charge will not prevail.
[01:46:21.240 --> 01:46:25.240]  You have to state it as it's stated in the book, okay?
[01:46:25.240 --> 01:46:28.240]  But that's generally what they're called here.
[01:46:28.240 --> 01:46:30.240]  You charge him with possession.
[01:46:30.240 --> 01:46:32.240]  You charge him with aggravated perjury.
[01:46:32.240 --> 01:46:39.240]  And since the entire stop was based upon a false premise, you've got him on aggravated assault.
[01:46:39.240 --> 01:46:43.240]  And if someone was arrested, they've got him on aggravated kidnapping.
[01:46:43.240 --> 01:46:49.240]  What about the fact that when we called into 911, we called on a particular reasoning.
[01:46:49.240 --> 01:47:00.240]  And they said that we sent an officer out, and I said, well, no, thanks, not only unless they can do this particular thing that they said they would be willing to do,
[01:47:00.240 --> 01:47:09.240]  which is dismantle this weaponization, this something that was attacking us, and they said they'd bring out the equipment.
[01:47:09.240 --> 01:47:15.240]  And they promised us that, yeah, we'll bring out the equipment that would get you safe from harm.
[01:47:15.240 --> 01:47:26.240]  We had talked to several officers who did know what the weapon was, and they basically assaulted her.
[01:47:26.240 --> 01:47:28.240]  Well, you're breaking up really bad.
[01:47:28.240 --> 01:47:31.240]  We lost you after assaulted her.
[01:47:31.240 --> 01:47:33.240]  Assaulted who?
[01:47:33.240 --> 01:47:41.240]  Oh, yeah, well, they arrested me and put me in handcuffs and put me in the police car while they were searching the car
[01:47:41.240 --> 01:47:45.240]  and illegally doing all that kind of stuff.
[01:47:45.240 --> 01:47:51.240]  Okay, what was this alleged weapon we're talking about here?
[01:47:51.240 --> 01:47:59.240]  We were being attacked by an RFID user, someone who has stolen an RFID of ours,
[01:47:59.240 --> 01:48:07.240]  and they were just making serious assault biometric attacks from remote distances.
[01:48:07.240 --> 01:48:14.240]  Okay, meaning what exactly? They were tasering you with microwaves or they were reading your information?
[01:48:14.240 --> 01:48:21.240]  I mean, I fail to understand how you're going to get the word attack associated with RFID.
[01:48:21.240 --> 01:48:30.240]  Okay, well, they can use programs that to your nervous system are the same.
[01:48:30.240 --> 01:48:40.240]  They basically can override your nervous system and steal your information and send information through your RFID.
[01:48:40.240 --> 01:48:42.240]  Are you chipped?
[01:48:42.240 --> 01:48:44.240]  Well, yeah.
[01:48:44.240 --> 01:48:46.240]  You have a chip?
[01:48:46.240 --> 01:48:49.240]  Well, yeah, obviously, yeah.
[01:48:49.240 --> 01:48:55.240]  That's why I was telling the police officer, I said, I know exactly what patent this is.
[01:48:55.240 --> 01:49:00.240]  I said, I know that I need to get this at you.
[01:49:00.240 --> 01:49:04.240]  You're on duty. I'm entitled to the relief.
[01:49:04.240 --> 01:49:11.240]  The only reason why you would be able to come out here and to stop it would be to get the right kind of equipment
[01:49:11.240 --> 01:49:17.240]  so as to dismantle it or to bar it out temporarily to track it and then track it
[01:49:17.240 --> 01:49:24.240]  and then do their job as a police officer to stopping the vicious criminal
[01:49:24.240 --> 01:49:29.240]  because when they're trying to stop, you know, a heart attack or kill you,
[01:49:29.240 --> 01:49:34.240]  they're doing the car crash or whatever else.
[01:49:34.240 --> 01:49:36.240]  That's what they're trying to do.
[01:49:36.240 --> 01:49:37.240]  Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[01:49:37.240 --> 01:49:38.240]  Where's the chip?
[01:49:38.240 --> 01:49:44.240]  How did, yeah, did you just say that you had a chip implanted in you?
[01:49:44.240 --> 01:49:45.240]  Well, yeah.
[01:49:45.240 --> 01:49:49.240]  And why? Why? Who did this? Did you agree to this?
[01:49:49.240 --> 01:49:56.240]  No way. No. This happened a long time ago since, like, I was a baby.
[01:49:56.240 --> 01:50:05.240]  I mean, I'm still in the process of digging up all of what it exactly entailed,
[01:50:05.240 --> 01:50:21.240]  but I know some, I know why it was initiated. It was a presidential executive order, excuse me, that they...
[01:50:21.240 --> 01:50:24.240]  You keep fading out.
[01:50:24.240 --> 01:50:25.240]  I did not.
[01:50:25.240 --> 01:50:28.240]  We lost you at executive order.
[01:50:28.240 --> 01:50:36.240]  Well, this executive order, I believe it was 1-2-2-3.
[01:50:36.240 --> 01:50:39.240]  Okay, listen, listen, we're losing you guys.
[01:50:39.240 --> 01:50:45.240]  Y'all need to call in on a different line because we're losing the connection here.
[01:50:45.240 --> 01:50:47.240]  Yeah, you keep breaking up and fading out.
[01:50:47.240 --> 01:50:52.240]  If you're listening, try to call us back on a landline because it sounds like you're on a cordless or a cell phone.
[01:50:52.240 --> 01:50:55.240]  Yes, yes, and we can't understand what's going on.
[01:50:55.240 --> 01:50:57.240]  All right, we're going to go on now.
[01:50:57.240 --> 01:51:00.240]  We're going to go to, we've got about eight minutes left.
[01:51:00.240 --> 01:51:04.240]  We're going to, there's John in Colorado and Gary in Georgia.
[01:51:04.240 --> 01:51:06.240]  Gary, thanks for calling in.
[01:51:06.240 --> 01:51:08.240]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:51:08.240 --> 01:51:11.240]  Oh, I have two issues, Deborah, and I'll be very quick.
[01:51:11.240 --> 01:51:23.240]  One is as far as traffic speed laws, I would like to announce that anyone has a problem with the speed laws that go on the NHTSA,
[01:51:23.240 --> 01:51:37.240]  that is the National Highway Traffic Safety First Phrases website, which is www.gov.
[01:51:37.240 --> 01:51:41.240]  And anyway, look at the summary of state speed laws.
[01:51:41.240 --> 01:51:48.240]  They have a manual there that you can obtain, and they have the speed laws for every state and every state and union.
[01:51:48.240 --> 01:52:02.240]  As far as Georgia's concerned, we have been searching for the substantive regulations that would affect my rights and duties under the Georgia APA
[01:52:02.240 --> 01:52:12.240]  to enforce what they passed January the 1st, the state's super speeder laws.
[01:52:12.240 --> 01:52:20.240]  Well, ladies and gentlemen, there are no substantive regulations to enforce that.
[01:52:20.240 --> 01:52:32.240]  So once we start looking into having insurance, tags, all of this, they've never had subject matter jurisdiction in 50 years.
[01:52:32.240 --> 01:52:35.240]  So anyway, it's the same thing.
[01:52:35.240 --> 01:52:43.240]  We've nailed down as far as IRS, but that's not another subject. I'll be real quick so somebody else can call.
[01:52:43.240 --> 01:52:47.240]  I'm concerned with the ordinances, which Andy has talked about.
[01:52:47.240 --> 01:52:54.240]  It's one of my favorite things for the grass cops here in Columbus, Georgia, because they lock people up.
[01:52:54.240 --> 01:53:06.240]  Well, I made an Open Records Act request for the host of office for the so-called environmental courts,
[01:53:06.240 --> 01:53:12.240]  where they have these part-time judges, but they're not really judges.
[01:53:12.240 --> 01:53:16.240]  They call them courts and not even courts, administrative tribunals.
[01:53:16.240 --> 01:53:28.240]  So here's what I received from Mr. Connie Washington that certified he is the newly appointed and acting clerk of the Council of Columbus, Georgia.
[01:53:28.240 --> 01:53:34.240]  He says, I further certified that the 10 pages of photographic matter herein in the text
[01:53:34.240 --> 01:53:40.240]  is a true and correct copy of the latest resolutions adopted by the Council of Columbus, Georgia,
[01:53:40.240 --> 01:53:50.240]  appointing Mary Buckner, Mike Zielinski, Michael Joyner, and as recorder pro temp.
[01:53:50.240 --> 01:53:59.240]  My interpretation of a recorder pro temp, don't say they're judges, remember, and they also have their own little practice,
[01:53:59.240 --> 01:54:08.240]  is that their court is even administrative recorder and pro temp means temporary.
[01:54:08.240 --> 01:54:12.240]  I have the recorder's court of Columbus, Georgia, which are on file.
[01:54:12.240 --> 01:54:22.240]  So any questions that maybe you can assist me on, please define recorder pro temp and I'll hang up.
[01:54:22.240 --> 01:54:24.240]  Thank you very much.
[01:54:24.240 --> 01:54:25.240]  All right.
[01:54:25.240 --> 01:54:26.240]  Thanks, Gary.
[01:54:26.240 --> 01:54:32.240]  Well, the pro temp just means temporary or appointed out of necessity on a temporary basis.
[01:54:32.240 --> 01:54:34.240]  That's all that really is.
[01:54:34.240 --> 01:54:41.240]  A recorder is simply that, someone that records either the proceedings or makes a record,
[01:54:41.240 --> 01:54:45.240]  just like a registrar would do, okay?
[01:54:45.240 --> 01:54:51.240]  I suspect that George is going to have a specific definition for recorder in this context.
[01:54:51.240 --> 01:54:57.240]  Yes, as do I, but without actually looking at the statute, I wouldn't know exactly what that would be right offhand.
[01:54:57.240 --> 01:55:03.240]  I'm just going off general knowledge of what I've seen it as in other states, including ours.
[01:55:03.240 --> 01:55:13.240]  But the point being that I think you hit the nail on the head to begin with, Gary, in that it's a resolution.
[01:55:13.240 --> 01:55:24.240]  It is not an act, which I'm sure the state constitution defines an act as an act of law passed by the legislature,
[01:55:24.240 --> 01:55:35.240]  not a resolution compiled and put together and passed by a lower governing body with no authority to create law binding upon the people.
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:39.240]  That would create a constitutional problem for them right up front.
[01:55:39.240 --> 01:55:48.240]  Therefore, their ordinances and their resolutions would once again be binding only over those over whom they have direct authority,
[01:55:48.240 --> 01:55:55.240]  and that would be their own employees and contractors, but not you or me.
[01:55:55.240 --> 01:55:59.240]  So I hope that helps.
[01:55:59.240 --> 01:56:01.240]  Okay. All right.
[01:56:01.240 --> 01:56:04.240]  Let's go now to John in Colorado.
[01:56:04.240 --> 01:56:06.240]  John, we only got a couple minutes left.
[01:56:06.240 --> 01:56:07.240]  What's on your mind?
[01:56:07.240 --> 01:56:08.240]  Thank you for taking my call.
[01:56:08.240 --> 01:56:09.240]  I'm on a landline this time.
[01:56:09.240 --> 01:56:14.240]  So I went and I tried to pay my property tax with the presidential $1 coins.
[01:56:14.240 --> 01:56:15.240]  These are circulating coins from the U.S. Mint.
[01:56:15.240 --> 01:56:19.240]  You can get them at the bank, and they refused to take them.
[01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:25.240]  So I think I need to send a letter now to the county saying that I believe they've discharged the debt.
[01:56:25.240 --> 01:56:29.240]  That's exactly what they did.
[01:56:29.240 --> 01:56:34.240]  When they refused to take lawful money, or at least the idea of lawful money and payment of that debt,
[01:56:34.240 --> 01:56:37.240]  they negated the debt according to what the information is.
[01:56:37.240 --> 01:56:38.240]  Right.
[01:56:38.240 --> 01:56:41.240]  And it's legal tender, and I've looked up the law on this on the Treasury website.
[01:56:41.240 --> 01:56:42.240]  So I believe that.
[01:56:42.240 --> 01:56:49.240]  So I think I need to send, I'm going to copy out the relevant law from the U.S. Treasury website
[01:56:49.240 --> 01:56:51.240]  and send that certified to them.
[01:56:51.240 --> 01:56:56.240]  And I was thinking, what type of warning should I put in there in case they try to collect it again,
[01:56:56.240 --> 01:56:59.240]  which would be them trying to collect it twice, or should I do that?
[01:56:59.240 --> 01:57:00.240]  Oh, don't warn them.
[01:57:00.240 --> 01:57:01.240]  Okay.
[01:57:01.240 --> 01:57:02.240]  Bushwhack them.
[01:57:02.240 --> 01:57:03.240]  Oh, yeah.
[01:57:03.240 --> 01:57:04.240]  I like Bushwhack.
[01:57:04.240 --> 01:57:05.240]  That'll do it.
[01:57:05.240 --> 01:57:06.240]  Just keep it simple and short.
[01:57:06.240 --> 01:57:07.240]  Absolutely.
[01:57:07.240 --> 01:57:08.240]  Yep.
[01:57:08.240 --> 01:57:12.240]  Wouldn't take dollars, this is good.
[01:57:12.240 --> 01:57:13.240]  Okay, I agree.
[01:57:13.240 --> 01:57:17.240]  Now there's a statute in Texas that says you can't pay with pennies.
[01:57:17.240 --> 01:57:18.240]  Okay.
[01:57:18.240 --> 01:57:22.240]  Because it's a special statute for certain things.
[01:57:22.240 --> 01:57:27.240]  After a certain amount of pennies are not considered legal tender anymore.
[01:57:27.240 --> 01:57:29.240]  I forgot what it was, what the amount is.
[01:57:29.240 --> 01:57:30.240]  Johnny Carson pays.
[01:57:30.240 --> 01:57:31.240]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:57:31.240 --> 01:57:33.240]  Pays alimony.
[01:57:33.240 --> 01:57:42.240]  Yeah, like hundreds of thousands of dollars in pennies and had to dump trucks go to dump it on the ex-wife's lawn,
[01:57:42.240 --> 01:57:45.240]  and she wouldn't take it, and she didn't have to.
[01:57:45.240 --> 01:57:46.240]  It wasn't legal tender.
[01:57:46.240 --> 01:57:48.240]  So he got stuck with all the pennies.
[01:57:48.240 --> 01:57:50.240]  He could have done it with nickels.
[01:57:50.240 --> 01:57:51.240]  Could have done it with nickels.
[01:57:51.240 --> 01:57:53.240]  Yep, that's right.
[01:57:53.240 --> 01:57:55.240]  Thank you for your enlightening show.
[01:57:55.240 --> 01:57:57.240]  Okay, thanks, John.
[01:57:57.240 --> 01:58:05.240]  Okay, all right, folks, that's the show for tonight.
[01:58:05.240 --> 01:58:06.240]  Good show.
[01:58:06.240 --> 01:58:07.240]  Thanks, callers.
[01:58:07.240 --> 01:58:08.240]  Thanks, listeners.
[01:58:08.240 --> 01:58:09.240]  Thanks, Eddie.
[01:58:09.240 --> 01:58:11.240]  Thanks, Randy.
[01:58:11.240 --> 01:58:20.240]  We will be back on Monday night, Eddie, Randy, and myself, for another episode of The Rule of Law.
[01:58:20.240 --> 01:58:30.240]  Y'all have a good weekend.
[01:58:50.240 --> 01:59:00.240]  We'll be right back.
[01:59:20.240 --> 01:59:30.240]  We'll be right back.
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