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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.640]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.640 --> 00:09.880]  A new study has found New Hampshire has the country's lowest crime rate, followed by Vermont
[00:09.880 --> 00:10.880]  and Maine.
[00:10.880 --> 00:15.280]  Nevada, Louisiana and South Carolina have the highest.
[00:15.280 --> 00:20.880]  Nevada's murder rate was nearly seven times higher than New Hampshire's.
[00:20.880 --> 00:25.760]  Los Angeles will likely declare bankruptcy between now and 2014.
[00:25.760 --> 00:30.600]  According to the city's forecast, in the next four years, annual pension and post-retirement
[00:30.600 --> 00:37.240]  health care costs will increase by about $2.5 billion if no action is taken by the city
[00:37.240 --> 00:38.240]  government.
[00:38.240 --> 00:44.760]  In a list drawn up by leading business magazines, Swiss pharmaceutical giant Hoffman La Roche
[00:44.760 --> 00:47.520]  was rated top corporate criminal of the 1990s.
[00:47.520 --> 00:54.560]  It had pled guilty and agreed to pay a record $500 million criminal fine for leading a worldwide
[00:54.560 --> 01:00.880]  conspiracy to raise and fix prices and allocate market shares for certain vitamins sold in
[01:00.880 --> 01:04.120]  the U.S. and elsewhere.
[01:04.120 --> 01:10.040]  A new report has found mammograms detected few cancers in women under 40 but cause expense
[01:10.040 --> 01:15.800]  and anxiety because women frequently get, quote, false positives that require a follow-up
[01:15.800 --> 01:17.520]  to rule out cancer.
[01:17.520 --> 01:21.840]  The Journal of the National Cancer Institute reported Monday mammograms did not detect
[01:21.840 --> 01:25.120]  any tumors among women under 25.
[01:25.120 --> 01:30.600]  About 29 percent of U.S. women aged 30 to 40 say they have had a mammogram.
[01:30.600 --> 01:35.920]  Dr. Ned Kalong of the Colorado Department of Public Health said the findings suggest
[01:35.920 --> 01:41.520]  women under 40 shouldn't get mammograms unless they have symptoms of breast cancer such as
[01:41.520 --> 01:42.520]  a lump.
[01:42.520 --> 01:47.680]  Last November, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force said women in their 40s with an
[01:47.680 --> 01:53.680]  average risk for breast cancer did not need annual mammograms to screen for the disease.
[01:53.680 --> 01:57.040]  Breast cancer is the most common cancer in women worldwide.
[01:57.040 --> 02:00.080]  It kills 465,000 people annually.
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[02:04.640 --> 02:10.240]  George Alan Rikers, a prominent anti-gay activist who co-founded the Conservative Family Research
[02:10.240 --> 02:15.840]  Council, was caught returning from a 10-day trip to Europe with a male escort he found
[02:15.840 --> 02:17.600]  on rentboy.com.
[02:17.600 --> 02:23.160]  The escort says Rikers paid him to perform daily nude body rubs during their European
[02:23.160 --> 02:24.160]  jaunt.
[02:24.160 --> 02:28.880]  Rikers explained, quote, I deliberately spend time with sinners with the loving goal to
[02:28.880 --> 02:30.440]  try to help them.
[02:30.440 --> 02:35.760]  Rikers told the Miami New Times he learned his 20-year-old companion was a prostitute
[02:35.760 --> 02:40.400]  only midway through their trip, that they had no intimate contact, and that he hired
[02:40.400 --> 02:44.120]  the young man only because, quote, I can't lift luggage.
[02:44.120 --> 02:48.680]  Rikers, who recently testified against gay adoption in Florida, has advised members of
[02:48.680 --> 02:53.080]  Congress, the White House, and the Department of Health and Human Services.
[02:53.080 --> 02:58.120]  For more details on these stories, visit innworldreport.net.
[02:58.120 --> 03:08.520]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
[03:08.520 --> 03:15.520]  talk radio at its best.
[03:38.520 --> 04:02.640]  When you work and you have bad trees, you go to school and learn the golden rule.
[04:02.640 --> 04:04.140]  Then you might get cool
[04:04.140 --> 04:15.140]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, Or what you gonna do when they come for you
[04:15.140 --> 04:21.140]  You chunk it on that one, you chunk it on this one, you chunk it on your mother, and you chunk it on your father
[04:21.140 --> 04:23.140]  you chunk it on your brother and your chunk it on your sister
[04:23.140 --> 04:52.140]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when they come for you?
[04:52.140 --> 04:59.140]  Well, hopefully we've got some tools for when the bad boys come after us.
[04:59.140 --> 05:06.140]  And hopefully we've got some good tools for us to go after the bad boys.
[05:06.140 --> 05:09.140]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[05:09.140 --> 05:16.140]  And tonight we are taking your calls, 512-646-1984.
[05:16.140 --> 05:24.140]  And to start off with, I wanted to address some questions that have been asked of me over the last several days.
[05:24.140 --> 05:27.140]  I've received a plethora of emails.
[05:27.140 --> 05:30.140]  Everyone wants to know where's the beef.
[05:30.140 --> 05:40.140]  Everyone wants to know where's the docs that we said we were going to post on the website over the weekend concerning this
[05:40.140 --> 05:48.140]  alleged proof of double docketing and secret court rulings, et cetera, in the federal court system.
[05:48.140 --> 05:56.140]  Well, I'm sorry to report that after receiving a packet of information from Tony Davis
[05:56.140 --> 06:06.140]  and after combing through it and cross-referencing everything on Pacer, I'm sorry, but we don't have the beef.
[06:06.140 --> 06:13.140]  So I wanted to apologize to the listeners for that, just to briefly explain what the situation is
[06:13.140 --> 06:17.140]  and report my findings so that people will understand what's going on.
[06:17.140 --> 06:20.140]  This has to do with a case that's old.
[06:20.140 --> 06:30.140]  And the plaintiff at one point in the case in 07 was alleging double docketing and filed numerous motions into the case
[06:30.140 --> 06:39.140]  requesting to see the secret docket and filed motions demanding that the judge order the clerk to stop double docketing
[06:39.140 --> 06:42.140]  and to produce the secret docket and such.
[06:42.140 --> 06:48.140]  And it looks to me like it all has to do with this electronic filing system that's in the federal courts right now.
[06:48.140 --> 06:56.140]  The way that it works in the federal court system is that attorneys are required to file motions and documents
[06:56.140 --> 07:05.140]  through this electronic filing system in the federal courts, and pro se litigants are not allowed to, all right?
[07:05.140 --> 07:14.140]  Pro se litigants must file the standard way by either mailing paper in or going physically to the courthouse, et cetera,
[07:14.140 --> 07:21.140]  and you have to get special permission from the court to file through the electronic system if you're a pro se litigant.
[07:21.140 --> 07:26.140]  So apparently this looks like it was in the beginning stages of the electronic filing system,
[07:26.140 --> 07:34.140]  and it looks to me like perhaps the plaintiff in this particular case came across some discrepancies
[07:34.140 --> 07:38.140]  and alleged that there was a secondary docket, a secret docket, and all these things.
[07:38.140 --> 07:47.140]  So he filed all these motions, and he attached exhibits to these motions of the public docket
[07:47.140 --> 07:58.140]  and then some emails that seemed to be contradictory, but there was no exhibit filed in the case of a second docket.
[07:58.140 --> 08:07.140]  Like he didn't have, or if he did have, he didn't file at the time as an exhibit a printout of a secondary docket.
[08:07.140 --> 08:13.140]  Well, in the papers that I received over the weekend, there was a printout.
[08:13.140 --> 08:15.140]  There was a copy of a printout, let's put it this way.
[08:15.140 --> 08:17.140]  I didn't get any original documents, which I didn't expect to.
[08:17.140 --> 08:25.140]  There was a copy of a secondary, a second docket that said internal use only,
[08:25.140 --> 08:31.140]  and it was conflicting with the public docket, which I verified on Pacer.
[08:31.140 --> 08:38.140]  Now it looks to me like if this secondary docket was not completely fabricated,
[08:38.140 --> 08:41.140]  it looks like it could have been printed out from within a browser
[08:41.140 --> 08:47.140]  because you could see the URL at the top, the partial URL that was cut off,
[08:47.140 --> 08:55.140]  and it was an HTTPS, which indicates a secured connection, and it said ECS, court, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[08:55.140 --> 09:05.140]  It looks like it could have been printed out from within somebody's login to the electronic filing system.
[09:05.140 --> 09:07.140]  At the bottom it had the date.
[09:07.140 --> 09:11.140]  When you print out things from a browser, it generally has the URL at the top and a date at the bottom.
[09:11.140 --> 09:16.140]  Well, the date at the bottom was a year later than the motions
[09:16.140 --> 09:21.140]  that this plaintiff had filed at first alleging this secret docket.
[09:21.140 --> 09:28.140]  Well, the case was still going on a year later, but if this plaintiff actually had this printout,
[09:28.140 --> 09:34.140]  he never filed it in the case as an exhibit, and so that was very confusing to me.
[09:34.140 --> 09:35.140]  I did not understand that.
[09:35.140 --> 09:40.140]  If he had the proof, if he had the printout and he was making all these allegations,
[09:40.140 --> 09:45.140]  even if he got the proof a year later, why didn't he file it as an exhibit as a motion in the case?
[09:45.140 --> 09:47.140]  I don't understand these things, okay?
[09:47.140 --> 09:53.140]  And so at any rate, the previous year when he had made these allegations,
[09:53.140 --> 10:02.140]  shortly after the motions that he filed, the judge made an order basically something
[10:02.140 --> 10:07.140]  about the electronic filing system that this case shall be handled through the electronic filing system from now on.
[10:07.140 --> 10:10.140]  So it appeared that the whole thing was about the electronic filing system.
[10:10.140 --> 10:13.140]  But the bottom line is in all the documents that are received,
[10:13.140 --> 10:22.140]  and I never saw anything where anyone alleged as to where they received this printout,
[10:22.140 --> 10:29.140]  where it came from, who got it, how was it procured, nothing.
[10:29.140 --> 10:37.140]  And so it looks to me like it's possible that maybe someone somewhere along the line in 08 or earlier
[10:37.140 --> 10:46.140]  got an attorney to log in to the electronic filing system and print this paper out,
[10:46.140 --> 10:54.140]  but without that attorney stepping forward and saying, yes, it's me, yes, it's my login,
[10:54.140 --> 10:59.140]  yes, I printed this paper out and sent a notarized verified affidavit to that fact
[10:59.140 --> 11:06.140]  to put his professional career on the line to verify that the docket that he saw
[11:06.140 --> 11:10.140]  and printed out on the electronic filing system is actually different
[11:10.140 --> 11:15.140]  from the one that you can look up on Pacer, then I'm sorry folks, we just really don't have any proof
[11:15.140 --> 11:19.140]  because I have to be able to verify these things third party.
[11:19.140 --> 11:25.140]  We have to, I mean even if the plaintiff had filed the document as an exhibit in the case,
[11:25.140 --> 11:28.140]  that's still not real proof, okay.
[11:28.140 --> 11:34.140]  I have to be able to verify these things by looking it up myself or having an attorney log in
[11:34.140 --> 11:39.140]  and signing a notarized affidavit under penalty of perjury to that effect.
[11:39.140 --> 11:47.140]  And so until we get that and what attorney would do that, okay, I don't think that's going to happen.
[11:47.140 --> 11:54.140]  So my conclusion of all this is that it is entirely possible and maybe even highly likely
[11:54.140 --> 11:58.140]  and probable that there is double docketing and secret rulings going on
[11:58.140 --> 12:03.140]  because of the electronic filing system that pro se litigants do not have access to
[12:03.140 --> 12:10.140]  and that it could very likely be different from the public docket and what we see on Pacer.
[12:10.140 --> 12:17.140]  However, without us being able to access the electronic filing system or without an attorney
[12:17.140 --> 12:23.140]  or somebody else who has access to it to come step forward and show us
[12:23.140 --> 12:28.140]  and put their name on the line and notarize an affidavit under penalty of perjury,
[12:28.140 --> 12:32.140]  then we really can't take any action to that effect.
[12:32.140 --> 12:36.140]  We really can't, you know, start pressing criminal charges or filing lawsuits
[12:36.140 --> 12:41.140]  because we really at this point don't have any legitimate proof that we could offer.
[12:41.140 --> 12:46.140]  So anyway, that is my analysis of the situation.
[12:46.140 --> 12:53.140]  So I just want to let everyone know we apologize for the big hype on Friday
[12:53.140 --> 12:57.140]  and promising everybody something that we couldn't quite deliver.
[12:57.140 --> 13:02.140]  But I think that this should be a lesson to everyone to question everything
[13:02.140 --> 13:04.140]  and not take people's words for it.
[13:04.140 --> 13:11.140]  And any time anyone speaks something, you know, that seems to be outrageous or whatever,
[13:11.140 --> 13:17.140]  chase it down, track it down, verify it, which we would have to anyway if we're going to file a case,
[13:17.140 --> 13:21.140]  any time anybody speaks anything that seems contradictory to you,
[13:21.140 --> 13:25.140]  any time anyone throws out a statement which appears to be contradictory,
[13:25.140 --> 13:31.140]  like truth does not exist, then the conversation stops right there
[13:31.140 --> 13:33.140]  and so we get to iron out this little contradiction.
[13:33.140 --> 13:37.140]  I don't let people, this is how you can, by questioning,
[13:37.140 --> 13:41.140]  by questioning every time you sense a contradiction and ironing out,
[13:41.140 --> 13:44.140]  that's how you remove contradictions from within your own being.
[13:44.140 --> 13:50.140]  That's how you can avoid being indoctrinated with the double think, the Orwellian double think.
[13:50.140 --> 13:56.140]  How can you hold two contradictory statements to be true at the same time within your own mind?
[13:56.140 --> 14:01.140]  If you allow it to happen at all, if you allow it to happen one time,
[14:01.140 --> 14:06.140]  then you will allow it to happen over and over again and eventually your mind will be mush
[14:06.140 --> 14:09.140]  and that's how the bad guys manipulate people,
[14:09.140 --> 14:14.140]  by keep feeding contradictions into your being while you accept them.
[14:14.140 --> 14:17.140]  People need to learn how to think with critical thinking skills
[14:17.140 --> 14:23.140]  and use logic to remove contradictions from their own being and question it.
[14:23.140 --> 14:26.140]  Every time somebody tells you something contradictory,
[14:26.140 --> 14:29.140]  you stop the conversation right there and question it.
[14:29.140 --> 14:32.140]  No, you don't get to keep talking to me.
[14:32.140 --> 14:35.140]  You don't get to keep feeding information into my being
[14:35.140 --> 14:42.140]  until we iron out this little contradiction that you've proposed here, pal, okay?
[14:42.140 --> 14:46.140]  Because you're not going to distract me with this contradiction while I'm thinking about it
[14:46.140 --> 14:49.140]  so that you can feed more crap into my being.
[14:49.140 --> 14:53.140]  Now, unfortunately, you can't do that with the TV, okay?
[14:53.140 --> 14:58.140]  So what I do is if I'm watching any kind of TV show at all anywhere else,
[14:58.140 --> 15:04.140]  if I see a lie or a contradiction, it gets turned off because I can't immediately question.
[15:04.140 --> 15:09.140]  And listeners out there, I encourage you to think for yourself and use your own thinking skills.
[15:09.140 --> 15:13.140]  Any time any of us, either me or Eddie or Randy,
[15:13.140 --> 15:19.140]  say anything that appears to be contradictory to you, call in and question us about it.
[15:19.140 --> 15:26.140]  Question everything that appears to you to be contradictory every single time
[15:26.140 --> 15:30.140]  and don't let people keep talking to you and telling you whatever they want to tell you
[15:30.140 --> 15:35.140]  after they have already spewed out something that is a contradiction,
[15:35.140 --> 15:39.140]  that appears to be a contradiction because they'll keep giving you contradictions
[15:39.140 --> 15:42.140]  and feeding it into your being, okay?
[15:42.140 --> 15:46.140]  So everyone needs to start chasing down all this stuff for themselves, all right?
[15:46.140 --> 15:48.140]  So that's why we have Pacer.
[15:48.140 --> 15:50.140]  That's why we have the Internet.
[15:50.140 --> 15:55.140]  That's why we have public filing systems so that people can verify it for themselves.
[15:55.140 --> 15:57.140]  Perception is not everything.
[15:57.140 --> 16:00.140]  Truth exists regardless of whether you perceive it or not,
[16:00.140 --> 16:09.140]  and we need to learn skills to vet out the truth, the real truth, okay?
[16:09.140 --> 16:17.140]  So that is my little analysis today of what's going on,
[16:17.140 --> 16:22.140]  and I feel that some of my own critical thinking skills were honed through all of this,
[16:22.140 --> 16:27.140]  and so I urge everyone to vet out every contradiction that they see in their lives
[16:27.140 --> 16:29.140]  and remove all contradictions from their own being,
[16:29.140 --> 16:31.140]  and don't let people feed you contradictions.
[16:31.140 --> 16:36.140]  Think for yourself. Question everything. Question us.
[16:36.140 --> 16:38.140]  All right, we are going to a break now.
[16:38.140 --> 16:40.140]  We've got a caller on the line.
[16:40.140 --> 16:49.140]  Listeners, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
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[18:13.140 --> 18:25.140]  Look what we got. We asked the Christians. Look what we got. They don't have answers.
[18:25.140 --> 18:34.140]  We asked the Christians. Look what we got. They don't have answers.
[18:34.140 --> 18:49.140]  Okay, we are back. We've got a couple of calls on the line.
[18:49.140 --> 18:57.140]  And before we go to the calls, I just wanted to mention briefly that I am not criticizing Tony Davis at all
[18:57.140 --> 19:01.140]  or making any accusations against him whatsoever.
[19:01.140 --> 19:06.140]  Okay, he just may not have had a chance to chase all this down the way that I have.
[19:06.140 --> 19:10.140]  Okay, he's actually he's helping the defendant in this situation
[19:10.140 --> 19:17.140]  and is the plaintiff of the case that is alleging these allegations concerning the double docking.
[19:17.140 --> 19:24.140]  And so, you know, Tony's a very busy man, and he just may not have had a chance to thoroughly chase all of this down
[19:24.140 --> 19:27.140]  to come up with the answer one way or the other.
[19:27.140 --> 19:31.140]  So I'm not criticizing him at all. I'm just reporting on what my findings are.
[19:31.140 --> 19:36.140]  Okay, we've got a couple of callers on the line. We've got Recy in Montana.
[19:36.140 --> 19:40.140]  Recy, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? What is your question?
[19:40.140 --> 19:42.140]  Hi. You came highly recommended.
[19:42.140 --> 19:45.140]  This is my first time listening, so I'm not actually familiar with the case,
[19:45.140 --> 19:51.140]  but I was glad you spoke about contradiction because I do think there is a way,
[19:51.140 --> 19:56.140]  even if that attorney doesn't want to step out from behind the corporate veil, you can challenge him.
[19:56.140 --> 20:00.140]  You know, and I challenge the person. Most people are scared of admiralty,
[20:00.140 --> 20:05.140]  but in my personal opinion, admiralty is the last hurrah for the Americans.
[20:05.140 --> 20:09.140]  Well, Recy, that's a good idea if we knew who the attorney was
[20:09.140 --> 20:15.140]  that printed out this paper from the electronic filing system, if indeed it's even a legitimate document.
[20:15.140 --> 20:20.140]  If we knew who the attorney was, see, that's what I was saying in the folder that I went through of all the papers,
[20:20.140 --> 20:29.140]  there is no letters from anyone to anyone else. There is no piece of paper anywhere of anybody saying,
[20:29.140 --> 20:37.140]  I found this, I printed this out. If I even had that, I would definitely question the attorney, but yeah, good idea.
[20:37.140 --> 20:41.140]  Because they can be definitely sent an affidavit, you know.
[20:41.140 --> 20:52.140]  Well, like I said, I wish, if I knew, if I had any indication whatsoever of any attorney that even in a casual conversation
[20:52.140 --> 20:55.140]  said I printed this out, then I could do that.
[20:55.140 --> 21:00.140]  Why can't it be presented and then put the burden on someone to rebut it?
[21:00.140 --> 21:03.140]  I mean, the law deals with presumptions all day, every day.
[21:03.140 --> 21:11.140]  Because I'm not, well, put it this way, I'm not going to present it when I don't have any proof of where it came from.
[21:11.140 --> 21:16.140]  This could be a completely fabricated document. What I have is a copy of a copy.
[21:16.140 --> 21:24.140]  Make them prove it's fabricated, because the person who's suffering behind the damn document knows it ain't fabricated.
[21:24.140 --> 21:29.140]  So they have their life and their situation they're going through to prove it.
[21:29.140 --> 21:34.140]  I think it's time for people to stop putting things out there when they know things to be true,
[21:34.140 --> 21:37.140]  simply because you can't prove it according to somebody else's standards.
[21:37.140 --> 21:42.140]  Make them prove that it's not true. It's called an affirmative defense or negative.
[21:42.140 --> 21:49.140]  Well, see, at this point in time, I don't know if the plaintiff has ever even seen this document.
[21:49.140 --> 21:53.140]  I don't know where this document came from.
[21:53.140 --> 22:00.140]  Like I said, if somebody's suffering behind this document being true or false, I think they have every right to bring it forward
[22:00.140 --> 22:03.140]  and make somebody else prove that it's not true.
[22:03.140 --> 22:08.140]  I agree with that statement. I absolutely agree.
[22:08.140 --> 22:13.140]  We've got to stop suffering at the hands of these monkeys. You know, I'm so sick of these monkeys.
[22:13.140 --> 22:18.140]  My husband is in jail right now behind some monkeys and some lies, and it's ridiculous.
[22:18.140 --> 22:19.140]  I agree.
[22:19.140 --> 22:24.140]  It's totally ridiculous, and that's why I was calling out to get hooked up. I heard a good referral on Randy,
[22:24.140 --> 22:26.140]  and I wanted to get hooked up.
[22:26.140 --> 22:28.140]  Well, they absolutely should do that. I agree.
[22:28.140 --> 22:35.140]  I agree that, you know, the plaintiff or the defendant, whoever in this case, whoever has the printouts,
[22:35.140 --> 22:38.140]  see, I just have copies of everything, okay?
[22:38.140 --> 22:43.140]  I don't know if any of these pieces of paper are real that I received.
[22:43.140 --> 22:50.140]  I can only verify what I can verify in a public record, and so whoever has the original printout,
[22:50.140 --> 22:57.140]  if it even exists, that person needs to question and push it, but I can't because I don't have the documents.
[22:57.140 --> 23:03.140]  Who does it affect? Who wants it to be true? Who needs for it to be true? Where's that person at?
[23:03.140 --> 23:06.140]  That person needs to come forward and listen.
[23:06.140 --> 23:12.140]  Actually, we need for it not to be true, and that's the problem.
[23:12.140 --> 23:19.140]  And the concern is we have people out there trying to keep us from being affected,
[23:19.140 --> 23:25.140]  and the government does one of their primary tools is disinformation.
[23:25.140 --> 23:29.140]  Nothing like sending us chasing down a rabbit hole.
[23:29.140 --> 23:30.140]  Oh, yeah.
[23:30.140 --> 23:37.140]  Get us chasing this double docket when it doesn't really even exist so we don't go find what's really going on.
[23:37.140 --> 23:42.140]  So we have to be especially diligent.
[23:42.140 --> 23:46.140]  Oh, well, then you just flip the argument. That's all you do there.
[23:46.140 --> 23:58.140]  Well, the problem is if we're making the accusation, then we have to demonstrate prima facie evidence.
[23:58.140 --> 24:03.140]  Just simply making the accusations is not enough.
[24:03.140 --> 24:09.140]  If I allege that you're a communist, how are you going to prove that you're not?
[24:09.140 --> 24:14.140]  It's extremely difficult to disprove a negative.
[24:14.140 --> 24:19.140]  Yeah, see, that's the whole point I'm trying to make. That's the power of that negative environment.
[24:19.140 --> 24:23.140]  What if somebody has put this out here to distract us,
[24:23.140 --> 24:30.140]  and they get us going after the courts to prove that they don't have a double docket?
[24:30.140 --> 24:34.140]  If they really don't have one, how would they prove that they really don't have one?
[24:34.140 --> 24:36.140]  Yeah, you can't prove a negative.
[24:36.140 --> 24:39.140]  Nothing they could say would make any difference to us.
[24:39.140 --> 24:42.140]  Oh, well, come and look at our records while you hit it.
[24:42.140 --> 24:46.140]  Well, check our computer to see how you can adjust them.
[24:46.140 --> 24:52.140]  Unless we have something hard that says, look here, Bubba.
[24:52.140 --> 24:59.140]  The allegation was that the electronic file, the docket in the electronic filing system is different from the public one.
[24:59.140 --> 25:01.140]  That was the allegation.
[25:01.140 --> 25:10.140]  But the question is that if the plaintiff had this printout in 2008,
[25:10.140 --> 25:16.140]  which is the date on the bottom of the printout, which looks like it was printed from a browser on that date.
[25:16.140 --> 25:25.140]  By the way, which I might add, the date was April 1st, 2008, like hearty heart, April fools, kind of ironic.
[25:25.140 --> 25:33.140]  That's a little aside, but my question is if the plaintiff who was making these allegations,
[25:33.140 --> 25:37.140]  and he was making the allegations because he filed motions in the case to that effect,
[25:37.140 --> 25:45.140]  if the plaintiff had this printout document, the original printout in his hand in 08,
[25:45.140 --> 25:50.140]  why in the heck did he not file it as an exhibit in his own case?
[25:50.140 --> 25:59.140]  That leads me to believe that he did not have this printout at that time, so where in the heck did it come from?
[25:59.140 --> 26:07.140]  There is nothing in this file anywhere that tells me that anyone has made any claim whatsoever that it came from me.
[26:07.140 --> 26:10.140]  I printed it out. I got it from here.
[26:10.140 --> 26:15.140]  Nobody is even making any claims as to where they got it, not even Tony.
[26:15.140 --> 26:19.140]  Nobody has made any claims. There are letters back and forth from the attorneys to each other.
[26:19.140 --> 26:25.140]  There are all kinds of letters from people to each other, and then all of a sudden this document just appears.
[26:25.140 --> 26:32.140]  I will say that it's a printout. I have a copy of something. That's what I'm saying.
[26:32.140 --> 26:34.140]  You don't even know who entered it into the mix?
[26:34.140 --> 26:39.140]  No, I don't even know who entered it into the mix. That's what I'm saying.
[26:39.140 --> 26:46.140]  I don't have any indication at all of where it possibly could have come from.
[26:46.140 --> 26:56.140]  The only partial information is that there's a letter from an attorney to Tony, or it could be a letter from the attorney to Tony.
[26:56.140 --> 26:59.140]  At this point, I'm questioning the whole thing.
[26:59.140 --> 27:09.140]  There is a printout copy of what appears to be a letter from an attorney to Tony who's basically describing all this case
[27:09.140 --> 27:19.140]  and talking about that if you will look at the difference between this one docket and the other docket, you'll see all these discrepancies.
[27:19.140 --> 27:27.140]  But even in that letter, that attorney isn't saying, I printed it out. He doesn't say that in the letter.
[27:27.140 --> 27:32.140]  The key is you have to challenge the presumption or the claim.
[27:32.140 --> 27:39.140]  Exactly, and that's what I'm doing. Somebody is going to have to step forward and say, I printed it out.
[27:39.140 --> 27:49.140]  Here's where I got it and sign it under penalty of perjury or prove it or else to me, I'm not going to stand by it and say that I agree that it's true.
[27:49.140 --> 27:53.140]  I sure as heck ain't going to post all this on my website. I'm not posting the archives.
[27:53.140 --> 27:57.140]  I'd make them come in their unlimited liability capacity.
[27:57.140 --> 28:03.140]  Exactly, and I'm not going to post the archives on Friday either until I can prove that this is true.
[28:03.140 --> 28:09.140]  Listeners, I will tell you this, that from now on, anytime anybody comes to me or Eddie or Randy with these kinds of claims,
[28:09.140 --> 28:18.140]  I'm going to make them prove it before I bring them on the air to make these types of allegations on my show.
[28:18.140 --> 28:22.140]  Yeah, see Alex Jones next if he didn't.
[28:22.140 --> 28:30.140]  Exactly, right. Somebody is trying to discredit all of us and I ain't going to let it go on. It ain't going to happen.
[28:30.140 --> 28:39.140]  Yeah, well I'm all for justice, so whichever way the boat swings on the justice tip, that's what I'm for, is down with the bull crap.
[28:39.140 --> 28:46.140]  Exactly, and like I said again, I'm not trying to discredit Tony over this because he just may not have had a chance to vet all this out for himself.
[28:46.140 --> 28:53.140]  But the thing is, from now on, anybody who comes to us with information like this is going to have to have already vetted it out
[28:53.140 --> 29:00.140]  or give me the information and let me vet it out before I allow this on the air anymore.
[29:00.140 --> 29:06.140]  It's ridiculous. I'm pretty upset about the whole thing to be honest because it wasted a lot of my time.
[29:06.140 --> 29:09.140]  I could have been doing something else.
[29:09.140 --> 29:15.140]  On the show, and excuse my ignorance, this is my first time listening, but what do you do, case reviews, type deal?
[29:15.140 --> 29:24.140]  Well, not exactly. We help people learn to think for themselves and function as pro se litigants
[29:24.140 --> 29:31.140]  and help teach people how to function in the court system on their own and learn the rules.
[29:31.140 --> 29:36.140]  We listen to people's cases and give them our best personal opinions.
[29:36.140 --> 29:41.140]  We're not attorneys, so we tend to give opinions attorneys are afraid to give.
[29:41.140 --> 29:45.140]  Okay. Well, I need to talk to somebody about getting on because I have a scenario.
[29:45.140 --> 29:49.140]  Okay. Well, listen, Reese, we've got some other callers.
[29:49.140 --> 29:55.140]  Would you please call back in later so we could go to some other callers on the other side?
[29:55.140 --> 29:56.140]  Absolutely.
[29:56.140 --> 29:58.140]  Okay. All right. I'll talk to you on the break. We'll be right back.
[29:58.140 --> 30:01.140]  Okay. Thanks.
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[32:27.140 --> 32:30.140]  Guilt to our power
[32:30.140 --> 32:33.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[32:33.140 --> 32:36.140]  Guilt to our power
[32:36.140 --> 32:39.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[32:39.140 --> 32:42.140]  Guilt to our power
[32:42.140 --> 32:45.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[32:45.140 --> 32:47.140]  Guilt to our power
[32:47.140 --> 32:52.140]  So please Mr. Mackle and each officer, you have to abuse the power
[32:52.140 --> 32:57.140]  Send a request to the leader, the captain of all officers
[32:57.140 --> 33:03.140]  Tell them to uphold the law and please don't abuse their power
[33:03.140 --> 33:08.140]  The beat and the beat and the cheese and the cheese and the light every hour
[33:08.140 --> 33:14.140]  So Mr. Officer, please stop abusing your power
[33:14.140 --> 33:19.140]  You will be over until we be silenced, officer
[33:19.140 --> 33:22.140]  I need to speak to my lawyer
[33:22.140 --> 33:25.140]  Mr. Officer
[33:25.140 --> 33:27.140]  They're acting like you're the judge
[33:27.140 --> 33:30.140]  You're finding me guilty, sir
[33:30.140 --> 33:33.140]  So when you're gonna stop abuse
[33:33.140 --> 33:36.140]  Guilt to our power
[33:36.140 --> 33:39.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[33:39.140 --> 33:42.140]  Guilt to our power
[33:42.140 --> 33:44.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[33:44.140 --> 33:47.140]  Guilt to our power
[33:47.140 --> 33:49.140]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[33:49.140 --> 33:52.140]  Guilt to our power
[33:52.140 --> 33:55.140]  Mr. Officer abusing his power
[33:55.140 --> 33:58.140]  Please Mr. Mackle and each officer
[33:58.140 --> 34:01.140]  So they could understand they should uphold the law
[34:01.140 --> 34:03.140]  Instead of abusing the power
[34:03.140 --> 34:06.140]  You know they act like they're judging you and me
[34:06.140 --> 34:09.140]  But Mr. Officer, you're supposed to protect me
[34:09.140 --> 34:12.140]  Uphold the law and do it properly
[34:12.140 --> 34:15.140]  And the citizens of this country wouldn't be so angry
[34:15.140 --> 34:17.140]  Look at what they do to Rodney King
[34:17.140 --> 34:20.140]  They beat the man for nothing
[34:20.140 --> 34:23.140]  So officer, don't you realize
[34:23.140 --> 34:25.140]  People tired of you
[34:25.140 --> 34:26.140]  Okay, we are back.
[34:26.140 --> 34:29.140]  Recy from Montana is gonna hold so that we can
[34:29.140 --> 34:31.140]  She's being very gracious to hold with her questions
[34:31.140 --> 34:33.140]  so that we can go to some other callers.
[34:33.140 --> 34:36.140]  We've got Shawna in Oregon is next.
[34:36.140 --> 34:37.140]  Shawna, thanks for calling in.
[34:37.140 --> 34:39.140]  It looks like you're a first-time caller.
[34:39.140 --> 34:40.140]  What's on your mind tonight?
[34:40.140 --> 34:43.140]  Well, yeah, I am a first-time caller
[34:43.140 --> 34:46.140]  and I just really wanted to call and thank you guys
[34:46.140 --> 34:50.140]  for doing all this hard work on helping people learn
[34:50.140 --> 34:52.140]  you know what their sovereignty rights are
[34:52.140 --> 34:55.140]  and facing the bad guys.
[34:55.140 --> 34:56.140]  Thank you.
[34:56.140 --> 34:58.140]  We certainly try.
[34:58.140 --> 35:00.140]  You're very welcome.
[35:00.140 --> 35:03.140]  And that's really I just wanted to take the time just to stop
[35:03.140 --> 35:05.140]  and just thank you guys for all your hard work.
[35:05.140 --> 35:06.140]  Well, thank you, Shawna.
[35:06.140 --> 35:08.140]  We really appreciate that.
[35:08.140 --> 35:09.140]  You're welcome.
[35:09.140 --> 35:10.140]  Okay, well you have...
[35:10.140 --> 35:11.140]  I think that's the good work.
[35:11.140 --> 35:12.140]  Thanks.
[35:12.140 --> 35:13.140]  We're going to continue to listen in.
[35:13.140 --> 35:15.140]  All right, thank you.
[35:15.140 --> 35:16.140]  Bye-bye.
[35:16.140 --> 35:18.140]  That was really sweet.
[35:18.140 --> 35:21.140]  Okay, and we really do appreciate that.
[35:21.140 --> 35:24.140]  Okay, we are going now to Tim in Texas.
[35:24.140 --> 35:25.140]  Tim, thanks for calling in.
[35:25.140 --> 35:27.140]  What's on your mind tonight?
[35:27.140 --> 35:28.140]  Well, good evening, folks.
[35:28.140 --> 35:31.140]  This question is kind of geared towards Randy,
[35:31.140 --> 35:33.140]  possibly Eddie can help out on this.
[35:33.140 --> 35:38.140]  Randy, if you grant me the opportunity to give you a loaded question,
[35:38.140 --> 35:45.140]  I was wondering if you know what the clerk's notes are for?
[35:45.140 --> 35:51.140]  The clerk's notes, is that a technical reference or a general reference?
[35:51.140 --> 35:55.140]  Well, it appears to be like a lot of events within the court file.
[35:55.140 --> 36:04.140]  Okay, the only place that I recall a reference to the notes of the court
[36:04.140 --> 36:08.140]  are in 2022 Code of Criminal Procedure,
[36:08.140 --> 36:13.140]  where the grand jury comes before the court in quorum
[36:13.140 --> 36:18.140]  and presents the true bills and no bills to the court,
[36:18.140 --> 36:22.140]  and the clerk shall make notes in the minutes of the court.
[36:22.140 --> 36:24.140]  But that would be in criminal, wouldn't it?
[36:24.140 --> 36:29.140]  Yes, that's the only place in law that I'm aware of a reference
[36:29.140 --> 36:32.140]  to the clerk taking notes.
[36:32.140 --> 36:35.140]  But that would be like taking notes of the proceedings, correct?
[36:35.140 --> 36:43.140]  That would be noting the fact of a true bill being found by the grand jury.
[36:43.140 --> 36:48.140]  Okay, then let me preface this by saying this is in a civil case,
[36:48.140 --> 36:51.140]  and in this case the clerk appears to be keeping,
[36:51.140 --> 36:56.140]  and the district court appears to be keeping notes of the activity
[36:56.140 --> 37:01.140]  of documents going into the file when the file is handed to the judge.
[37:01.140 --> 37:04.140]  Oh, okay, you're talking about the docket.
[37:04.140 --> 37:08.140]  Oh, that's the docket, okay.
[37:08.140 --> 37:14.140]  Yes, she's going to keep a record of all items logged into the court.
[37:14.140 --> 37:16.140]  That's going to be the docket.
[37:16.140 --> 37:17.140]  The docket, okay.
[37:17.140 --> 37:19.140]  You call it a docket sheet.
[37:19.140 --> 37:25.140]  In this case here, the clerk knows it as the clerk's notes.
[37:25.140 --> 37:26.140]  Okay.
[37:26.140 --> 37:33.140]  Now that we've gotten that straightened out, what I've found through a friend
[37:33.140 --> 37:37.140]  who actually is involved in a civil case that we're working together on
[37:37.140 --> 37:42.140]  is that he went down and requested the docket.
[37:42.140 --> 37:45.140]  I'll use your term so as we're consistent.
[37:45.140 --> 37:48.140]  He requested the docket, and it shows certain activity.
[37:48.140 --> 37:53.140]  A week later he went down and asked for another printout of the docket,
[37:53.140 --> 38:00.140]  and there was more information on there than there was the previous week,
[38:00.140 --> 38:03.140]  and it wasn't just asked within the last week.
[38:03.140 --> 38:06.140]  It was information that was from the previous month that didn't appear
[38:06.140 --> 38:09.140]  in the docket from the first printout.
[38:09.140 --> 38:14.140]  Then he went back a week later and asked for another printout of the docket,
[38:14.140 --> 38:19.140]  and now it was showing less information just like the first printout.
[38:19.140 --> 38:22.140]  Now what would be the reason for that?
[38:22.140 --> 38:24.140]  That's a good question.
[38:24.140 --> 38:29.140]  What was the nature of the documents that were missing?
[38:29.140 --> 38:34.140]  Was there any indication that the missing documents
[38:34.140 --> 38:38.140]  were substantially affecting the court record?
[38:38.140 --> 38:39.140]  Okay.
[38:39.140 --> 38:42.140]  In one of the cases, one of the documents that was missing
[38:42.140 --> 38:46.140]  from the first printout of the docket was a document
[38:46.140 --> 38:50.140]  that had not been properly served on him.
[38:50.140 --> 38:54.140]  In the next printout, it did show that that document was in the file,
[38:54.140 --> 38:57.140]  but then in the third printout it did not anymore,
[38:57.140 --> 39:01.140]  and the other attorney admitted in the case file
[39:01.140 --> 39:04.140]  that he did not serve the document on his other party
[39:04.140 --> 39:09.140]  and had to get the judge to vacate the order.
[39:09.140 --> 39:13.140]  So what was the effect of the document missing?
[39:13.140 --> 39:17.140]  What I'm getting at is I'm looking for something sinister,
[39:17.140 --> 39:22.140]  or is it perhaps something more technical,
[39:22.140 --> 39:28.140]  like someone else is handling the records for some purpose,
[39:28.140 --> 39:30.140]  and when you come and look at it,
[39:30.140 --> 39:32.140]  someone's got part of those records doing something with it,
[39:32.140 --> 39:35.140]  so you're not seeing it in the file.
[39:35.140 --> 39:38.140]  Like maybe the judge has got some of the records looking at them
[39:38.140 --> 39:40.140]  or a prosecutor.
[39:40.140 --> 39:41.140]  No.
[39:41.140 --> 39:46.140]  In this case here, it's not looking at things missing from the case file.
[39:46.140 --> 39:50.140]  It's just the activity in the docket showing that, like in one case,
[39:50.140 --> 39:57.140]  it shows a document had been stamped and entered into the file,
[39:57.140 --> 40:02.140]  and that event occurred like a month ago.
[40:02.140 --> 40:08.140]  So that should have been in the docket a week ago, but it wasn't.
[40:08.140 --> 40:12.140]  Does that make sense?
[40:12.140 --> 40:14.140]  Not quite.
[40:14.140 --> 40:16.140]  I'm trying to go to the relevance.
[40:16.140 --> 40:19.140]  Are there actual dockets missing from the file,
[40:19.140 --> 40:23.140]  or is this just notations of documents that are changing?
[40:23.140 --> 40:26.140]  It's just the notations of documents being filed
[40:26.140 --> 40:31.140]  or activity of the file was sent to the judge or was returned,
[40:31.140 --> 40:33.140]  things like that.
[40:33.140 --> 40:35.140]  Oh, okay, then.
[40:35.140 --> 40:40.140]  I don't know of anything requiring the clerk to keep,
[40:40.140 --> 40:45.140]  anything other than a docket sheet, and the docket sheet lists everything
[40:45.140 --> 40:50.140]  that was filed in the case and when it was filed in the case.
[40:50.140 --> 40:53.140]  Yeah, but that's basically the activity that we're looking at.
[40:53.140 --> 40:57.140]  But the problem is they just go to the computer and print it out.
[40:57.140 --> 40:59.140]  That's all they do.
[40:59.140 --> 41:01.140]  It's not like an actual sheet of paper where they're writing it down.
[41:01.140 --> 41:03.140]  They print it from their computers.
[41:03.140 --> 41:12.140]  So I would very much like to know how the, is there not a hard copy docket sheet?
[41:12.140 --> 41:14.140]  No, I don't think there is, actually.
[41:14.140 --> 41:22.140]  This was a concern I had when they first started with the paperless court,
[41:22.140 --> 41:27.140]  is there's nothing permanent.
[41:27.140 --> 41:33.140]  Anyone can go in there and make any adjustments they want to to a purely electronic system.
[41:33.140 --> 41:36.140]  Well, what you can do is you can print it out from Pacer.
[41:36.140 --> 41:41.140]  You can at least do a screenshot, okay, because that is a public docket,
[41:41.140 --> 41:43.140]  but that's about all you can do.
[41:43.140 --> 41:46.140]  You have to make your own paper docket now.
[41:46.140 --> 41:52.140]  Yeah, the problem is if you make one, it's not an official docket.
[41:52.140 --> 41:58.140]  And if you come and have them make one, it's not, essentially, it's not official either because it's just...
[41:58.140 --> 42:04.140]  Yeah, but what you could do is if you had screenshots from Pacer that conflicted with other,
[42:04.140 --> 42:07.140]  with what Pacer said at some later point in time,
[42:07.140 --> 42:12.140]  well, now you've got at least some grounds to challenge what's going on,
[42:12.140 --> 42:17.140]  but see like with what Tony was alleging, which, and the allegations could be true.
[42:17.140 --> 42:18.140]  We just can't prove it.
[42:18.140 --> 42:23.140]  I don't think they're going to mess with the public docket if they're doing anything.
[42:23.140 --> 42:28.140]  They've got a secret docket on the electronic filing system that the attorneys use.
[42:28.140 --> 42:33.140]  That's the one that's being manipulated if there's any manipulation going on at all.
[42:33.140 --> 42:41.140]  Yeah, well, I've had concerns with how they could have a secret docket
[42:41.140 --> 42:48.140]  because all of the orders in the court have to be in the court record or they're not ordered, orders.
[42:48.140 --> 42:57.140]  So if anyone is being subjected to some secret orders, it would seem they would be blatantly obvious.
[42:57.140 --> 43:00.140]  I don't see what the advantage to that would be,
[43:00.140 --> 43:07.140]  and I really don't see how they could change the public record even if it's electronic and on Pacer
[43:07.140 --> 43:10.140]  because too many people would find out.
[43:10.140 --> 43:12.140]  I just don't see how it's possible.
[43:12.140 --> 43:19.140]  If they're changing around a docket, there's got to be a secondary docket that's being changed around,
[43:19.140 --> 43:23.140]  and until we can prove it, it's no use in even making the allegations,
[43:23.140 --> 43:30.140]  but I really don't see that it makes any sense at all to mess with what's going on on Pacer here, there, and yonder
[43:30.140 --> 43:32.140]  because too many people would find out.
[43:32.140 --> 43:33.140]  They would get caught.
[43:33.140 --> 43:44.140]  Yeah, and I still don't understand what kind of problem this is leading to.
[43:44.140 --> 43:48.140]  Well, somebody's going to have to show some proof of something.
[43:48.140 --> 43:56.140]  I mean, somebody's going to have to come up with some screenshots from Pacer that conflict with current logins or whatever.
[43:56.140 --> 43:59.140]  Okay, well, let's finish this on the other side real quickly.
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[45:01.140 --> 45:29.140]  Okay, this is Randy Keltner.
[45:29.140 --> 45:34.140]  Daddy Craig, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, we're back.
[45:34.140 --> 45:39.140]  Okay, Tim, let me be frank.
[45:39.140 --> 45:44.140]  I don't know what the heck you're talking about.
[45:44.140 --> 45:49.140]  But what I'm saying is, if what you're saying is going on,
[45:49.140 --> 45:57.140]  I don't see how there's a justifiable issue, how there's a problem here.
[45:57.140 --> 46:05.140]  Just that you're finding anomalies, but they're not pointing at anything in particular.
[46:05.140 --> 46:11.140]  And it sounds more like sloppy bookkeeping than anything, not so much something sinister.
[46:11.140 --> 46:13.140]  Or is there something we missed?
[46:13.140 --> 46:15.140]  Okay.
[46:15.140 --> 46:17.140]  Let me dig through it a little bit further.
[46:17.140 --> 46:23.140]  I actually have printouts, the printouts in PDF format from the case file with the case file number and everything.
[46:23.140 --> 46:27.140]  So this is directly from the court record from the clerk.
[46:27.140 --> 46:31.140]  Well, the point is not that there are anomalies.
[46:31.140 --> 46:35.140]  Are they anomalies that matter?
[46:35.140 --> 46:43.140]  Well, I think that they may, because one of them was an order granted by the judge.
[46:43.140 --> 46:57.140]  It was issued on the 15th of March, and on the 31st of March on the printout, it didn't show up in this printout.
[46:57.140 --> 46:59.140]  But then a week later, it did show up.
[46:59.140 --> 47:02.140]  And then the following week after that, it was gone again.
[47:02.140 --> 47:06.140]  And once it was gone, that goes to tampering.
[47:06.140 --> 47:10.140]  I would sure want them to show why this order was gone.
[47:10.140 --> 47:17.140]  Well, what's also interesting is that order wasn't even in the case file at that time when the first printout was done at the end of March,
[47:17.140 --> 47:21.140]  even though it had been signed on the 15th.
[47:21.140 --> 47:31.140]  That's not understandable, because oftentimes the judge will get the order on his desk and sign it whenever he feels like it.
[47:31.140 --> 47:34.140]  So if the judge has it, it won't be in the file itself.
[47:34.140 --> 47:37.140]  But there should be a docket entry.
[47:37.140 --> 47:40.140]  And there is on the first week in April.
[47:40.140 --> 47:43.140]  But then in the second week in April, it's gone again.
[47:43.140 --> 47:48.140]  Well, that may be because, oh, you mean it's gone from the docket sheet.
[47:48.140 --> 47:50.140]  There's no record of it being there.
[47:50.140 --> 47:51.140]  Right.
[47:51.140 --> 47:57.140]  You're saying that there was an order, and you printed it out, and it was on the docket sheet.
[47:57.140 --> 48:01.140]  And then the week later, it's not on the docket anymore.
[48:01.140 --> 48:02.140]  That's correct.
[48:02.140 --> 48:04.140]  Well, now that is the problem.
[48:04.140 --> 48:09.140]  What? Has it been put back on there?
[48:09.140 --> 48:13.140]  Well, another trip to the court will reveal that.
[48:13.140 --> 48:16.140]  If it's not there, I would file tampering with the government document.
[48:16.140 --> 48:18.140]  Yeah, that is a problem.
[48:18.140 --> 48:21.140]  And that sounds like there is some proof of that situation.
[48:21.140 --> 48:25.140]  And that will get, you know, even if it's not important, tampering with the government document is still a crime,
[48:25.140 --> 48:27.140]  and that will get the attention.
[48:27.140 --> 48:33.140]  Well, if the court is issuing orders, and then they're on the docket and then they're not on the docket,
[48:33.140 --> 48:37.140]  the question is, is the order legitimate or not?
[48:37.140 --> 48:40.140]  Does it have an effect?
[48:40.140 --> 48:43.140]  Or is it in the for official use only docket?
[48:43.140 --> 48:49.140]  Well, in this case, the order had to be rescinded because the motion wasn't properly served on the other party.
[48:49.140 --> 48:51.140]  Wait a minute, the order was rescinded?
[48:51.140 --> 48:57.140]  Yeah, the opposing attorney had to file a motion to get the judge to rescind the order
[48:57.140 --> 49:00.140]  because the attorney had not filed a motion on this guy.
[49:00.140 --> 49:03.140]  Yeah, but that thing, it should still be in the court record.
[49:03.140 --> 49:04.140]  Exactly.
[49:04.140 --> 49:06.140]  Once in the court record, always in the court record.
[49:06.140 --> 49:12.140]  So are you saying that perhaps the order was rescinded, and so they took it off the docket?
[49:12.140 --> 49:14.140]  Is that what's going on here?
[49:14.140 --> 49:16.140]  We need to take one more trip to the court to verify that.
[49:16.140 --> 49:20.140]  Because if the other party filed a motion for the judge to rescind the order,
[49:20.140 --> 49:26.140]  and the judge did indeed rescind the order, then what should happen is there should be another entry into the docket
[49:26.140 --> 49:31.140]  that the order was rescinded, they shouldn't just remove it from the docket.
[49:31.140 --> 49:32.140]  Exactly.
[49:32.140 --> 49:33.140]  Okay.
[49:33.140 --> 49:36.140]  Randy, not to take up any more time, but let me go through this and make some notes,
[49:36.140 --> 49:41.140]  and maybe I can get on with you and Eddie some night, and we can review this and see if there's any anomalies that matter.
[49:41.140 --> 49:42.140]  Good, good.
[49:42.140 --> 49:45.140]  Yeah, I would love to review it too.
[49:45.140 --> 49:46.140]  Okay.
[49:46.140 --> 49:47.140]  Okay, thank you.
[49:47.140 --> 49:48.140]  All right.
[49:48.140 --> 49:49.140]  See you for tonight.
[49:49.140 --> 49:50.140]  All right.
[49:50.140 --> 49:51.140]  Bye-bye.
[49:51.140 --> 49:56.140]  It's looking like I'm becoming the in-house, you know, anomaly finder,
[49:56.140 --> 50:05.140]  which I guess that's what I'm good at, folks, because my life study is in logic and mathematics.
[50:05.140 --> 50:06.140]  I almost got my PhD.
[50:06.140 --> 50:07.140]  You got it.
[50:07.140 --> 50:09.140]  That's a better job than in-house hernia finder.
[50:09.140 --> 50:11.140]  I think so.
[50:11.140 --> 50:15.140]  Okay, we are going now to Greg in California.
[50:15.140 --> 50:17.140]  Greg, thanks for calling in.
[50:17.140 --> 50:19.140]  What's on your mind tonight?
[50:19.140 --> 50:23.140]  I have a question about due process.
[50:23.140 --> 50:26.140]  I'm a felon, ex-felon, I should say.
[50:26.140 --> 50:30.140]  The police came and executed a search warrant at my house.
[50:30.140 --> 50:35.140]  The warrant that they came here with didn't have the correct address.
[50:35.140 --> 50:39.140]  The name was wrong, and it was even in the wrong city.
[50:39.140 --> 50:45.140]  And I didn't consent to the search, but, you know, they said the warrant's good and we're coming in anyway.
[50:45.140 --> 50:49.140]  Now, they found a gun here, of course.
[50:49.140 --> 50:54.140]  It was my father's, and he's claiming to that, and I also stated that from the beginning.
[50:54.140 --> 50:58.140]  And they're also trying to get me for a felonate possession of a firearm.
[50:58.140 --> 51:10.140]  Now, when I was arrested, the bill was exonerated, and the first court case, excuse me, let me back up.
[51:10.140 --> 51:15.140]  I was called a detective when I got out, and I asked him if I could get some paperwork, you know,
[51:15.140 --> 51:17.140]  a correct warrant with my name on it.
[51:17.140 --> 51:19.140]  He says, come down and I will give you it.
[51:19.140 --> 51:25.140]  So I went down there, and he says, if you want your warrant without the warrant, you know,
[51:25.140 --> 51:27.140]  with your name on it, you've got to give us that one back.
[51:27.140 --> 51:29.140]  And I told him, I'm not going to do that.
[51:29.140 --> 51:32.140]  So he says, go to the North Court, because that's where the warrant was out of,
[51:32.140 --> 51:34.140]  and then you can get a copy from them.
[51:34.140 --> 51:36.140]  So I went to North Court, didn't have a copy of it.
[51:36.140 --> 51:38.140]  I went to my first court hearing.
[51:38.140 --> 51:40.140]  My name wasn't on the list.
[51:40.140 --> 51:41.140]  They said, come back in two weeks.
[51:41.140 --> 51:43.140]  I went back again in two weeks.
[51:43.140 --> 51:48.140]  My bill was exonerated, and they said the DA is up to two years to file.
[51:48.140 --> 51:51.140]  So five months down the road, they give me...
[51:51.140 --> 51:53.140]  Two years to file what?
[51:53.140 --> 51:57.140]  Two years to file a complaint, like, to charge me with...
[51:57.140 --> 51:59.140]  Oh, they have two years to file, right.
[51:59.140 --> 52:00.140]  Right.
[52:00.140 --> 52:09.140]  Have you filed criminal charges against them for aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping?
[52:09.140 --> 52:11.140]  I mean, I'd like to, you know what I'm saying?
[52:11.140 --> 52:15.140]  I've heard about all these things about standing in jurisdiction,
[52:15.140 --> 52:18.140]  and it's really a lot to learn, you know what I'm saying?
[52:18.140 --> 52:20.140]  Okay, you don't need all that.
[52:20.140 --> 52:22.140]  This part's pretty easy.
[52:22.140 --> 52:28.140]  If I come up and smack you upside the head, you know what to do.
[52:28.140 --> 52:32.140]  You go down to the police department, and you make out a criminal complaint against me for assault.
[52:32.140 --> 52:33.140]  Right.
[52:33.140 --> 52:34.140]  This is no different.
[52:34.140 --> 52:35.140]  Right.
[52:35.140 --> 52:37.140]  It doesn't make any difference if they're public officials.
[52:37.140 --> 52:43.140]  And in California, so you are California, in California, you have a good grand jury system.
[52:43.140 --> 52:44.140]  Right.
[52:44.140 --> 52:50.140]  If you want these guys to leave you alone, you go down to the grand jury,
[52:50.140 --> 52:55.140]  find out when the grand jury's going to meet, make up a set of complaints,
[52:55.140 --> 52:58.140]  and go down to the bailiff and tell the bailiff,
[52:58.140 --> 53:02.140]  instruct the foreman I have business with the grand jury.
[53:02.140 --> 53:06.140]  And he'll ask that he may say, well, you gave key to the grand jury.
[53:06.140 --> 53:08.140]  Well, that's not what I ask you to do.
[53:08.140 --> 53:13.140]  You go tell the foreman I have business with the grand jury.
[53:13.140 --> 53:15.140]  And you don't really care what they do.
[53:15.140 --> 53:19.140]  Is the grand jury, will that be located at the Superior Court I'm going to, or?
[53:19.140 --> 53:20.140]  I don't know.
[53:20.140 --> 53:21.140]  You'll have to figure that out.
[53:21.140 --> 53:22.140]  Yeah, ask them.
[53:22.140 --> 53:26.140]  They may have a special place where they meet, or it's probably in the courthouse.
[53:26.140 --> 53:30.140]  But you don't care if they keep you from the grand jury,
[53:30.140 --> 53:36.140]  because now whoever gets in front of you, you file charges against them.
[53:36.140 --> 53:39.140]  And if they want you to go see the prosecuting attorney, good.
[53:39.140 --> 53:44.140]  You go to him, and when he won't take your complaints, you file charges against him.
[53:44.140 --> 53:48.140]  When you start going after them, everything changes.
[53:48.140 --> 53:49.140]  Right.
[53:49.140 --> 53:53.140]  And then if anybody just frowns at you,
[53:53.140 --> 53:57.140]  you accuse the district attorney of sending him to retaliate against you.
[53:57.140 --> 53:58.140]  Right.
[53:58.140 --> 54:04.140]  What you want is the guy that all the police are afraid of.
[54:04.140 --> 54:05.140]  You want to find out who he is.
[54:05.140 --> 54:08.140]  It's generally the prosecuting attorney and the judge.
[54:08.140 --> 54:11.140]  And you go in and start kicking him in the teeth.
[54:11.140 --> 54:14.140]  And it's easy.
[54:14.140 --> 54:16.140]  You've got to understand.
[54:16.140 --> 54:20.140]  You know, when I walk into a courthouse, I'm the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[54:20.140 --> 54:21.140]  Right.
[54:21.140 --> 54:26.140]  And the reason I'm the baddest motor scooter in the building is I'm nobody.
[54:26.140 --> 54:28.140]  I'm not a police officer.
[54:28.140 --> 54:31.140]  I'm not a court employee.
[54:31.140 --> 54:33.140]  I'm not a prosecutor or a judge.
[54:33.140 --> 54:35.140]  I'm nobody.
[54:35.140 --> 54:38.140]  That means I'm the sovereign.
[54:38.140 --> 54:40.140]  I completely agree with you on that part.
[54:40.140 --> 54:42.140]  Okay, listen to this part.
[54:42.140 --> 54:45.140]  They all work for me, and they better not forget it.
[54:45.140 --> 54:49.140]  One of them steps across a legal line.
[54:49.140 --> 54:51.140]  I start filing criminal charges against him.
[54:51.140 --> 54:52.140]  Right.
[54:52.140 --> 54:59.140]  And anybody tries to help him, you want to start with some really peddling nothing little complaint.
[54:59.140 --> 55:00.140]  Okay.
[55:00.140 --> 55:02.140]  No big deal complaint.
[55:02.140 --> 55:03.140]  And then this guy doesn't take it.
[55:03.140 --> 55:05.140]  Oh, my gosh.
[55:05.140 --> 55:09.140]  Shielding from prosecution, obstruction of justice.
[55:09.140 --> 55:11.140]  Oh, this is horrible.
[55:11.140 --> 55:16.140]  You're filing more charges against him and work your way up to the top.
[55:16.140 --> 55:21.140]  I like to bushwhack district judges with criminal complaints.
[55:21.140 --> 55:23.140]  And they say, well, you have to go file those somewhere.
[55:23.140 --> 55:25.140]  No, no, no, no.
[55:25.140 --> 55:28.140]  I'm here to file them with you, and it's your job to take them.
[55:28.140 --> 55:29.140]  And I demand you take them.
[55:29.140 --> 55:32.140]  And when he refuses, now I start filing against him.
[55:32.140 --> 55:33.140]  Right.
[55:33.140 --> 55:40.140]  You start filing against the district judge, everybody starts backing up and giving you room.
[55:40.140 --> 55:44.140]  That's what I'm trying to have a basis or a grounds for doing.
[55:44.140 --> 55:49.140]  I'm trying to find something that I can have concrete to go against them because from what I understand,
[55:49.140 --> 55:52.140]  the law says that I know there's a difference between lawful and legal,
[55:52.140 --> 55:54.140]  but I know according to the Supreme Court,
[55:54.140 --> 56:00.140]  they don't need a police do not need a search warrant present when they execute a search warrant.
[56:00.140 --> 56:05.140]  But on the other hand, I feel that if they did present one and they did provide one to me,
[56:05.140 --> 56:10.140]  and on the face of it, you know, said someone else's name is someone else's address, someone else's city,
[56:10.140 --> 56:13.140]  they have the duty and obligation to correct it now.
[56:13.140 --> 56:14.140]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[56:14.140 --> 56:20.140]  If they give when the court examines the warrant for its validity,
[56:20.140 --> 56:26.140]  they are restricted to the four corners of the document.
[56:26.140 --> 56:33.140]  If that document is not valid and proper on its face,
[56:33.140 --> 56:37.140]  the police have themselves a big problem.
[56:37.140 --> 56:42.140]  Yeah, they said there was a valid one at the time, but they just presented me with the wrong one.
[56:42.140 --> 56:46.140]  They said we did a lot of searches that day and we just came to your house with the wrong one,
[56:46.140 --> 56:47.140]  and they still went in.
[56:47.140 --> 56:53.140]  And then the search warrant that they came to my house with was 17 days prior to the date they came to my house with.
[56:53.140 --> 56:59.140]  But I mean, I actually even hired a lawyer and paid him $5,000, which was a big mistake.
[56:59.140 --> 57:04.140]  You need to file half a dozen bar grievances against him just for the heck of it.
[57:04.140 --> 57:05.140]  Yeah.
[57:05.140 --> 57:10.140]  But lawyers are just there to see how much money they can dig out of your pocket unless you know how to handle lawyers.
[57:10.140 --> 57:11.140]  Yeah.
[57:11.140 --> 57:16.140]  After two representations, he tells me he cannot represent me anymore to a conflict of interest,
[57:16.140 --> 57:18.140]  and he doesn't know what money he wants.
[57:18.140 --> 57:21.140]  Okay, then you need all your money back from him.
[57:21.140 --> 57:22.140]  Yeah.
[57:22.140 --> 57:28.140]  He entered into a contract to file a bar grievance against him for breach of contract.
[57:28.140 --> 57:33.140]  You've got to understand bar grievances are bad news for attorneys.
[57:33.140 --> 57:36.140]  If you file a bar grievance against him, it's going to double his malpractice insurance.
[57:36.140 --> 57:37.140]  Okay.
[57:37.140 --> 57:43.140]  It's kind of like if you get out and somebody bumps into your car, that's not your fault.
[57:43.140 --> 57:46.140]  Your insurance rates going up anyway.
[57:46.140 --> 57:50.140]  Somebody else bumps into your car, they're going to cancel your insurance.
[57:50.140 --> 57:51.140]  Right, right.
[57:51.140 --> 57:54.140]  He's the same way except he starts out paying about 40 grand a year.
[57:54.140 --> 57:56.140]  Okay.
[57:56.140 --> 58:00.140]  If you bar grieve him, they'll just about double it the first time if they don't cancel.
[58:00.140 --> 58:01.140]  Right.
[58:01.140 --> 58:04.140]  So that's the way you hurt an attorney.
[58:04.140 --> 58:07.140]  You start bar grieving him, now you've got his attention.
[58:07.140 --> 58:08.140]  Okay.
[58:08.140 --> 58:09.140]  Are we going to break or something?
[58:09.140 --> 58:10.140]  Yes, we are.
[58:10.140 --> 58:11.140]  Yes, we are.
[58:11.140 --> 58:12.140]  And we need to move along.
[58:12.140 --> 58:13.140]  We've got a number of callers.
[58:13.140 --> 58:14.140]  Okay.
[58:14.140 --> 58:15.140]  I appreciate your time.
[58:15.140 --> 58:16.140]  All right.
[58:16.140 --> 58:17.140]  Thanks for calling in.
[58:17.140 --> 58:18.140]  Thanks, Greg.
[58:18.140 --> 58:19.140]  You guys are doing a great job, by the way, of what you do.
[58:19.140 --> 58:20.140]  Thanks, Greg.
[58:20.140 --> 58:21.140]  You're welcome.
[58:21.140 --> 58:22.140]  Okay.
[58:22.140 --> 58:23.140]  Bye-bye.
[58:23.140 --> 58:24.140]  Bye.
[58:24.140 --> 58:26.140]  Okay, we have a number of callers on the board.
[58:26.140 --> 58:29.140]  We're going to go back to Reese when we get on the other side.
[58:29.140 --> 58:31.140]  She did have a question about a case.
[58:31.140 --> 58:32.140]  And then we're going to move on.
[58:32.140 --> 58:34.140]  We've got Eric and then Dale.
[58:34.140 --> 58:39.140]  Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
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[01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:38.620]  Hamid Karzai's government. The proposals also call for deradicalization classes for insurgents
[01:02:38.620 --> 01:02:44.440]  and thousands of new manual jobs for foot soldiers who renounce violence. The long-awaited
[01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:49.640]  Afghan peace and reintegration program has emerged as Karzai prepares to go to Washington
[01:02:49.640 --> 01:03:09.980]  for talks with Barack Obama where the issue will top the agenda.
[01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:24.640]  They want to charge down by the land and burn down with the world's nation.
[01:03:24.640 --> 01:03:27.140]  But they don't operate the land right.
[01:03:27.140 --> 01:03:30.140]  I'm afraid the republicans will be ostracized.
[01:03:30.140 --> 01:03:32.140]  Tell them I'm a libertarian.
[01:03:32.140 --> 01:03:34.640]  They'll say we're not true, but we'll all do it.
[01:03:34.640 --> 01:03:36.140]  Come and watch.
[01:03:38.140 --> 01:03:40.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:40.140 --> 01:03:42.140]  And what we say?
[01:03:42.140 --> 01:03:44.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:44.140 --> 01:03:45.140]  And that's me telling them.
[01:03:45.140 --> 01:03:47.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:47.140 --> 01:03:49.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:49.140 --> 01:03:52.140]  Child for justice and child for respect.
[01:03:52.140 --> 01:03:54.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:54.140 --> 01:03:56.140]  Child love rules.
[01:03:56.140 --> 01:04:00.140]  Child for all words and child for all hands.
[01:04:00.140 --> 01:04:03.140]  And none of them will be charged with me.
[01:04:03.140 --> 01:04:06.140]  Say all man was created equally.
[01:04:06.140 --> 01:04:10.140]  Child don't copy land and do it daily.
[01:04:10.140 --> 01:04:11.140]  And when night falls.
[01:04:11.140 --> 01:04:14.140]  Okay, we are back. We are taking your calls.
[01:04:14.140 --> 01:04:20.140]  512-646-1984 and we are going to go back to Recy in Montana.
[01:04:20.140 --> 01:04:23.140]  Recy, okay, you said you did have a question on a case.
[01:04:23.140 --> 01:04:26.140]  So what's going on?
[01:04:26.140 --> 01:04:30.140]  Is Recy still there?
[01:04:30.140 --> 01:04:31.140]  Here I am, sorry.
[01:04:31.140 --> 01:04:32.140]  Oh, okay, good.
[01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:33.140]  Okay, what is your question?
[01:04:33.140 --> 01:04:34.140]  Hold on, mute.
[01:04:34.140 --> 01:04:39.140]  First off, let me preface it by saying we were targeted and he is a political prisoner.
[01:04:39.140 --> 01:04:40.140]  That's first off.
[01:04:40.140 --> 01:04:41.140]  Okay.
[01:04:41.140 --> 01:04:43.140]  And let me go get my other phone.
[01:04:43.140 --> 01:04:44.140]  Hang on one second.
[01:04:44.140 --> 01:04:49.140]  Okay.
[01:04:49.140 --> 01:04:51.140]  Got a lot of first-time callers tonight.
[01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:54.140]  It's so good to have new listeners and new callers.
[01:04:54.140 --> 01:04:56.140]  Okay, go ahead, Recy.
[01:04:56.140 --> 01:05:02.140]  Yeah, okay, so husband, we were operating as operatives.
[01:05:02.140 --> 01:05:06.140]  And he was traveling.
[01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:10.140]  He had private place, private ID, the whole nine yards.
[01:05:10.140 --> 01:05:11.140]  They didn't care.
[01:05:11.140 --> 01:05:13.140]  He was an illegal search and seizure.
[01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:14.140]  That's number one.
[01:05:14.140 --> 01:05:17.140]  He said, yeah, I know this is illegal, but you got to get out anyway.
[01:05:17.140 --> 01:05:20.140]  He said force him out of the car.
[01:05:20.140 --> 01:05:23.140]  Now he's been in jail for two months.
[01:05:23.140 --> 01:05:27.140]  The judge did a secret tribunal on him.
[01:05:27.140 --> 01:05:30.140]  We had witnesses there and everything.
[01:05:30.140 --> 01:05:31.140]  He shuffled him off.
[01:05:31.140 --> 01:05:33.140]  They had handcuffs on his ankles.
[01:05:33.140 --> 01:05:35.140]  They shuffled him back into custody.
[01:05:35.140 --> 01:05:39.140]  He says, we will do the hearing later next week since you're in so much pain.
[01:05:39.140 --> 01:05:43.140]  We'll bring him back up at 3 o'clock after everybody's gone.
[01:05:43.140 --> 01:05:46.140]  So my husband asked him, is this a U.S. district court?
[01:05:46.140 --> 01:05:48.140]  He wouldn't answer the question.
[01:05:48.140 --> 01:05:51.140]  So he refused to identify it as a court.
[01:05:51.140 --> 01:05:56.140]  Okay, so does the secret tribunal, doesn't even ask him what his plea is.
[01:05:56.140 --> 01:06:00.140]  He enters a plea for him of not guilty, makes him a ward of the court.
[01:06:00.140 --> 01:06:05.140]  Totally disrespects, makes him a sovereign, I mean a subject citizen.
[01:06:05.140 --> 01:06:09.140]  So again, we have private law the whole nine yards.
[01:06:09.140 --> 01:06:15.140]  So at this juncture, I'm being denied access to the police report.
[01:06:15.140 --> 01:06:17.140]  They're claiming everything we want.
[01:06:17.140 --> 01:06:21.140]  I mean, even to get his little fake marks, they're making it.
[01:06:21.140 --> 01:06:25.140]  They got him on 23-hour lockdown right now for nothing, for fake charges.
[01:06:25.140 --> 01:06:27.140]  And they said that he can't get a copy of that.
[01:06:27.140 --> 01:06:30.140]  Everything has to be subpoenaed.
[01:06:30.140 --> 01:06:34.140]  The county attorney is like God incarnate.
[01:06:34.140 --> 01:06:35.140]  And these people don't do anything.
[01:06:35.140 --> 01:06:38.140]  I mean, every single thing you got to go through the county attorney.
[01:06:38.140 --> 01:06:39.140]  They stole our truck.
[01:06:39.140 --> 01:06:40.140]  We got a bill of sale.
[01:06:40.140 --> 01:06:44.140]  They're accusing us of stealing our truck when we have a bill of sale.
[01:06:44.140 --> 01:06:48.140]  And the guy that sold us the truck is just making up all kinds of lies.
[01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:49.140]  But we got a thumbprint.
[01:06:49.140 --> 01:06:52.140]  It's a private contract, red signatures the whole nine yards.
[01:06:52.140 --> 01:06:54.140]  We even did it in gold.
[01:06:54.140 --> 01:06:57.140]  So there's no Federal Reserve notes involved.
[01:06:57.140 --> 01:07:03.140]  So at this juncture, definitely we're going to be canceling out that plea.
[01:07:03.140 --> 01:07:07.140]  So I just need to get some direction in terms of what documents I should file
[01:07:07.140 --> 01:07:09.140]  and what demands I should make.
[01:07:09.140 --> 01:07:10.140]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:07:10.140 --> 01:07:11.140]  Okay, stop here.
[01:07:11.140 --> 01:07:12.140]  Please report.
[01:07:12.140 --> 01:07:14.140]  I have no idea what you're talking about.
[01:07:14.140 --> 01:07:17.140]  Reese, is this a state or a federal case?
[01:07:17.140 --> 01:07:19.140]  It's a state.
[01:07:19.140 --> 01:07:21.140]  We're trying to get the feds to pick it up, but it's a...
[01:07:21.140 --> 01:07:22.140]  Okay.
[01:07:22.140 --> 01:07:25.140]  Do you know what he's charged with?
[01:07:25.140 --> 01:07:26.140]  Oh, yeah.
[01:07:26.140 --> 01:07:28.140]  They charged him with a suspended license.
[01:07:28.140 --> 01:07:29.140]  He's never had one.
[01:07:29.140 --> 01:07:35.140]  Dangerous drug possession for weed, concealed weapons.
[01:07:35.140 --> 01:07:37.140]  He had a gun with him.
[01:07:37.140 --> 01:07:39.140]  Let me see.
[01:07:39.140 --> 01:07:40.140]  What was the other thing?
[01:07:40.140 --> 01:07:45.140]  In the grand theft auto when we have a bill of sale for our own truck.
[01:07:45.140 --> 01:07:49.140]  So those are all the charges that they're putting on him.
[01:07:49.140 --> 01:07:50.140]  Okay.
[01:07:50.140 --> 01:07:59.140]  If they make a misstep, then in order to cover their misstep, they want to charge him
[01:07:59.140 --> 01:08:01.140]  with everything they can.
[01:08:01.140 --> 01:08:03.140]  Right, because the stop was illegal.
[01:08:03.140 --> 01:08:07.140]  They pulled him over with guns drawn and they tapped on his window with the gun,
[01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:09.140]  and they did an illegal search and seizure.
[01:08:09.140 --> 01:08:13.140]  Have you filed criminal charges against the officers yet?
[01:08:13.140 --> 01:08:14.140]  No.
[01:08:14.140 --> 01:08:18.140]  The only thing I've done at this point is we've done an affidavit of truth and fact
[01:08:18.140 --> 01:08:20.140]  that they're in default to.
[01:08:20.140 --> 01:08:23.140]  They tapped on the window with a gun?
[01:08:23.140 --> 01:08:24.140]  Yep.
[01:08:24.140 --> 01:08:27.140]  You're the sovereign time to act like one.
[01:08:27.140 --> 01:08:28.140]  Yeah, no.
[01:08:28.140 --> 01:08:30.140]  That's why I'm trying to get it together here.
[01:08:30.140 --> 01:08:38.140]  Look at what they did and what was the nature of the probable cause for the stop?
[01:08:38.140 --> 01:08:42.140]  They're lying about him speeding.
[01:08:42.140 --> 01:08:44.140]  Oh, and I was threatened too.
[01:08:44.140 --> 01:08:45.140]  Both of our lives were threatened.
[01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:49.140]  We had two witnesses at the scene, and the officer threatened to shoot and kill me
[01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:53.140]  if I touched the truck, which he entered into a verbal agreement to give me the keys
[01:08:53.140 --> 01:08:56.140]  and the truck when they arrested him.
[01:08:56.140 --> 01:09:01.140]  Then file making terroristic threat against the officers.
[01:09:01.140 --> 01:09:03.140]  Time to go back after him.
[01:09:03.140 --> 01:09:04.140]  Yeah, yeah, I agree.
[01:09:04.140 --> 01:09:07.140]  I was going to do the negative avertment Tim Turner process.
[01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:10.140]  Don't do the negative avertment Tim Turner process.
[01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:12.140]  What's your opinion on that?
[01:09:12.140 --> 01:09:18.140]  I think if it does anything, it will merely get the court to treat you
[01:09:18.140 --> 01:09:21.140]  as if you're out of your mind.
[01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:28.140]  It may be right, but what it will do is cause you more fights than you need.
[01:09:28.140 --> 01:09:31.140]  Use their law against them.
[01:09:31.140 --> 01:09:34.140]  Don't try to bring in a new law that they're not familiar with.
[01:09:34.140 --> 01:09:39.140]  They'll just ignore it, and then you have to fight with them for ignoring the law.
[01:09:39.140 --> 01:09:41.140]  Bring in the law that they use and they're familiar with.
[01:09:41.140 --> 01:09:45.140]  They understand aggravated assault, assault with a deadly weapon.
[01:09:45.140 --> 01:09:51.140]  An officer threatening your life while displaying a deadly weapon, that they understand.
[01:09:51.140 --> 01:09:54.140]  File against them.
[01:09:54.140 --> 01:10:00.140]  What about breach of contract for agreeing to give me the keys and the truck?
[01:10:00.140 --> 01:10:03.140]  How do you get to breach of contract?
[01:10:03.140 --> 01:10:05.140]  Well, he made a verbal agreement.
[01:10:05.140 --> 01:10:06.140]  I was on the phone.
[01:10:06.140 --> 01:10:08.140]  I witnessed him agreeing to the fact that he said,
[01:10:08.140 --> 01:10:13.140]  I'm only going to give you these keys if you agree to give them to my wife when she gets it.
[01:10:13.140 --> 01:10:17.140]  And he said, okay, I'll give them to whoever you tell me to.
[01:10:17.140 --> 01:10:19.140]  I get there, he threatens to kill me.
[01:10:19.140 --> 01:10:23.140]  Wait a minute.
[01:10:23.140 --> 01:10:24.140]  This is unclear.
[01:10:24.140 --> 01:10:27.140]  Who did he give the keys to?
[01:10:27.140 --> 01:10:28.140]  My husband.
[01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:32.140]  He took the keys from the car, and I was on the cell phone when the stop was taking place,
[01:10:32.140 --> 01:10:35.140]  so I was witnessing this on the phone.
[01:10:35.140 --> 01:10:40.140]  And by the time I got there, he refused to go along with me.
[01:10:40.140 --> 01:10:41.140]  Wait a minute.
[01:10:41.140 --> 01:10:42.140]  You're jumping around.
[01:10:42.140 --> 01:10:46.140]  I have no idea what's going on here.
[01:10:46.140 --> 01:10:51.140]  Who did he enter into a contract with?
[01:10:51.140 --> 01:10:52.140]  My husband.
[01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:57.140]  And the contract was that he give the keys to you.
[01:10:57.140 --> 01:11:05.140]  At that time, did they have an allegation of Grand Theft Auto?
[01:11:05.140 --> 01:11:08.140]  Oh, I don't believe so.
[01:11:08.140 --> 01:11:10.140]  I think that was added later.
[01:11:10.140 --> 01:11:12.140]  Did they have?
[01:11:12.140 --> 01:11:14.140]  Okay.
[01:11:14.140 --> 01:11:17.140]  Too many facts here.
[01:11:17.140 --> 01:11:21.140]  I can't imagine how you're going to be able to get to breach of contract.
[01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:31.140]  They will never enforce that contract because the officer is authorized to lie to your husband.
[01:11:31.140 --> 01:11:32.140]  Yeah, that part is true.
[01:11:32.140 --> 01:11:35.140]  The cops can lie.
[01:11:35.140 --> 01:11:38.140]  That's been adjudicated in the court systems.
[01:11:38.140 --> 01:11:43.140]  They can tell you anything they want, and it's not breaking the law,
[01:11:43.140 --> 01:11:48.140]  just so that they can do whatever they think they need to do in the course of their duty.
[01:11:48.140 --> 01:11:49.140]  Well, not exactly.
[01:11:49.140 --> 01:11:55.140]  If they lie to you for the purpose of denying you a right, that they can't do.
[01:11:55.140 --> 01:12:02.140]  But if the husband has the keys and they're arresting him,
[01:12:02.140 --> 01:12:07.140]  they can't let him keep the keys because he could hurt himself or someone else with them.
[01:12:07.140 --> 01:12:11.140]  So they can tase him and take the keys away from him.
[01:12:11.140 --> 01:12:12.140]  Right.
[01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:14.140]  Or they can run a line of crap on him.
[01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:16.140]  Yeah, don't worry about it.
[01:12:16.140 --> 01:12:20.140]  Just let me hang on to him, and when your wife gets here, I'll give them to her.
[01:12:20.140 --> 01:12:24.140]  He thought they were going to kill him from the moment they put the lights on
[01:12:24.140 --> 01:12:28.140]  because they tried to pull him over in the dark-pitched black night area,
[01:12:28.140 --> 01:12:31.140]  and he had to keep driving to get to a decent spot.
[01:12:31.140 --> 01:12:37.140]  And that's why they got real excited because he didn't pull over right away.
[01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:40.140]  Well, I wouldn't have pulled over in the pitch either.
[01:12:40.140 --> 01:12:41.140]  You don't have to.
[01:12:41.140 --> 01:12:47.140]  Yeah, I understand, but these are the things that happen.
[01:12:47.140 --> 01:12:52.140]  I think Randy's right that it's going to be too difficult to try to go to breach of contract at that point
[01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:57.140]  because it's just his word against the cops and unless it was recorded,
[01:12:57.140 --> 01:13:00.140]  and even if it was, that would be so difficult.
[01:13:00.140 --> 01:13:04.140]  I mean, Randy's saying to do things like file criminal charges against him
[01:13:04.140 --> 01:13:08.140]  for aggravated assault and kidnapping and things like that.
[01:13:08.140 --> 01:13:11.140]  Do what they do. They understand these things.
[01:13:11.140 --> 01:13:14.140]  Okay, so basically, yes, it is definitely kidnapping,
[01:13:14.140 --> 01:13:17.140]  and he has gone with that the whole time that he's been gone with kidnapping,
[01:13:17.140 --> 01:13:19.140]  under force of the rest of a weapon.
[01:13:19.140 --> 01:13:22.140]  Yeah, it's aggravated, yeah, exactly.
[01:13:22.140 --> 01:13:25.140]  Okay, so now what about the, they're not giving me the police report.
[01:13:25.140 --> 01:13:29.140]  Do I have any recourse other than a subpoena?
[01:13:29.140 --> 01:13:33.140]  If the case is, depends on the law.
[01:13:33.140 --> 01:13:37.140]  This is Montana. It depends on Montana law.
[01:13:37.140 --> 01:13:44.140]  If the police report is used as an affidavit for the purpose of securing a warrant,
[01:13:44.140 --> 01:13:52.140]  then if it were Texas, that would be publicly available at the office of the magistrate who issued the warrant.
[01:13:52.140 --> 01:13:53.140]  In Texas...
[01:13:53.140 --> 01:13:54.140]  Oh, that's another one.
[01:13:54.140 --> 01:13:56.140]  He was supposed to see a magistrate before he went to jail.
[01:13:56.140 --> 01:13:57.140]  That never happened.
[01:13:57.140 --> 01:13:59.140]  That, what time of night was it?
[01:13:59.140 --> 01:14:01.140]  Midnight.
[01:14:01.140 --> 01:14:03.140]  Okay, they can get by with that one.
[01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:05.140]  Is it a remote area?
[01:14:05.140 --> 01:14:09.140]  Yeah, well, not where they took him to the jail, but where the stop was, was.
[01:14:09.140 --> 01:14:13.140]  Well, in the jail, was it a large city?
[01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:14.140]  Yeah, Livingston.
[01:14:14.140 --> 01:14:19.140]  No, if it's after midnight, what the courts have pretty well held that after 11 o'clock at night,
[01:14:19.140 --> 01:14:23.140]  it's reasonable to hold the person until business hours next morning.
[01:14:23.140 --> 01:14:25.140]  Oh, they didn't see him for two weeks.
[01:14:25.140 --> 01:14:26.140]  What?
[01:14:26.140 --> 01:14:27.140]  That's not reasonable.
[01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:30.140]  Yeah, he was in jail for nine days with no hearing, nothing.
[01:14:30.140 --> 01:14:31.140]  That's not acceptable.
[01:14:31.140 --> 01:14:35.140]  Do not go to the merits, go to due process.
[01:14:35.140 --> 01:14:40.140]  You might go to my website, jurisimprudence.com.
[01:14:40.140 --> 01:14:41.140]  Okay.
[01:14:41.140 --> 01:14:43.140]  And there's a bunch of frogs on the front.
[01:14:43.140 --> 01:14:45.140]  I call this the frog farm conspiracy.
[01:14:45.140 --> 01:14:50.140]  Top frog on the left, there is a writ of habeas corpus there.
[01:14:50.140 --> 01:14:52.140]  It's a 50-page document.
[01:14:52.140 --> 01:14:56.140]  It walks through due process, and it follows the federal law.
[01:14:56.140 --> 01:15:01.140]  I use a lot of Texas law in there, but it all follows the federal requirements.
[01:15:01.140 --> 01:15:02.140]  It reads through that.
[01:15:02.140 --> 01:15:06.140]  That'll tell you all of the things that they're supposed to be doing.
[01:15:06.140 --> 01:15:12.140]  And then you can compare the Texas law I use with Montana law.
[01:15:12.140 --> 01:15:16.140]  But in every state, they're required to take it before a magistrate.
[01:15:16.140 --> 01:15:20.140]  And you have false imprisonment charges for not taking it before the magistrate.
[01:15:20.140 --> 01:15:23.140]  Then you send a tort letter to let them know you're going to sue them.
[01:15:23.140 --> 01:15:24.140]  You sue all the jailers.
[01:15:24.140 --> 01:15:27.140]  You want to sue the innocent parties.
[01:15:27.140 --> 01:15:29.140]  Yeah, we are definitely going to be doing a tort claim,
[01:15:29.140 --> 01:15:31.140]  but that's a whole other monster.
[01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:32.140]  Okay, no, no, no.
[01:15:32.140 --> 01:15:34.140]  It should be part of this.
[01:15:34.140 --> 01:15:36.140]  Get a tort letter in.
[01:15:36.140 --> 01:15:37.140]  Okay.
[01:15:37.140 --> 01:15:40.140]  And then you start requesting the name.
[01:15:40.140 --> 01:15:42.140]  You want to know the names of all the jailers who were in the jail
[01:15:42.140 --> 01:15:45.140]  at the time your husband was there.
[01:15:45.140 --> 01:15:47.140]  Your maintaining was false imprisonment,
[01:15:47.140 --> 01:15:52.140]  and all of these jailers helped to maintain the imprisonment.
[01:15:52.140 --> 01:15:54.140]  And they're going to say they didn't know it was false imprisonment.
[01:15:54.140 --> 01:15:57.140]  Sorry, Bubba, life is tough.
[01:15:57.140 --> 01:15:59.140]  It doesn't matter if you knew or not.
[01:15:59.140 --> 01:16:02.140]  Well, he said it the whole time I've been kidnapped.
[01:16:02.140 --> 01:16:04.140]  He doesn't, you know, he doesn't go along.
[01:16:04.140 --> 01:16:06.140]  So start looking at the crimes they committed.
[01:16:06.140 --> 01:16:10.140]  Assume that they're not, you know, quit thinking about them as public officials.
[01:16:10.140 --> 01:16:12.140]  Start thinking about them as criminals.
[01:16:12.140 --> 01:16:14.140]  What did they do that was crimes?
[01:16:14.140 --> 01:16:20.140]  If I went out and kidnapped you and I gave you to somebody else and they held you,
[01:16:20.140 --> 01:16:22.140]  are they?
[01:16:22.140 --> 01:16:24.140]  So instead of answering any of these charges or demanding anything,
[01:16:24.140 --> 01:16:26.140]  because I don't want to do any pleadings or motions.
[01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:27.140]  I don't want to beg.
[01:16:27.140 --> 01:16:29.140]  And that's what I don't want to do.
[01:16:29.140 --> 01:16:32.140]  Okay, let's not play games with meanings of words.
[01:16:32.140 --> 01:16:35.140]  Pleading in this sense does not mean begging.
[01:16:35.140 --> 01:16:36.140]  Pleading is a term of art.
[01:16:36.140 --> 01:16:39.140]  It has a specific meaning.
[01:16:39.140 --> 01:16:42.140]  It is a type of a petition to the court.
[01:16:42.140 --> 01:16:45.140]  I'll address that a little bit when we come back on the other side.
[01:16:45.140 --> 01:16:47.140]  Yes, stay on, Recy.
[01:16:47.140 --> 01:16:53.140]  We're going to talk to, after Recy, we've got Eric and then Gail.
[01:16:53.140 --> 01:17:01.140]  We'll be right back.
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[01:18:01.140 --> 01:18:25.140]  MUSIC
[01:18:25.140 --> 01:18:29.140]  Ain't gonna fool us with the same old tricks again.
[01:18:29.140 --> 01:18:31.140]  Indeed, indeed.
[01:18:31.140 --> 01:18:35.140]  We are asking questions and removing contradictions from our being
[01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:38.140]  and from statements that are proposed to us.
[01:18:38.140 --> 01:18:41.140]  Not gonna fool us with the same old tricks again.
[01:18:41.140 --> 01:18:43.140]  All right, Reece in Montana.
[01:18:43.140 --> 01:18:44.140]  Okay.
[01:18:44.140 --> 01:18:45.140]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:18:45.140 --> 01:18:47.140]  I have a concern.
[01:18:47.140 --> 01:18:53.140]  This is something I need to address that I suspect a lot of people are not going to like,
[01:18:53.140 --> 01:18:57.140]  and that goes to the commercial process.
[01:18:57.140 --> 01:19:02.140]  I get a lot of people calling me who's tried to use the commercial process
[01:19:02.140 --> 01:19:11.140]  in a criminal prosecution, and they get themselves clobbered.
[01:19:11.140 --> 01:19:15.140]  Now, I've had people explain the commercial process to me,
[01:19:15.140 --> 01:19:18.140]  and frankly I've never been satisfied.
[01:19:18.140 --> 01:19:23.140]  All I get is a lot of opinion and conjecture.
[01:19:23.140 --> 01:19:26.140]  I don't do opinion and conjecture well.
[01:19:26.140 --> 01:19:29.140]  I do law well.
[01:19:29.140 --> 01:19:34.140]  You should never say anything to the court out of your own mouth
[01:19:34.140 --> 01:19:37.140]  other than the facts of the case.
[01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:43.140]  Anything that has to do with law, you speak it from the words of the law,
[01:19:43.140 --> 01:19:49.140]  and that keeps you from getting caught up in how I think things ought to be.
[01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:55.140]  In this particular case, I'm gonna suggest you absolutely do not need the commercial process.
[01:19:55.140 --> 01:20:03.140]  We have a good corpus juris, a good body of law.
[01:20:03.140 --> 01:20:11.140]  If you'll get the penal code for Montana, read through it.
[01:20:11.140 --> 01:20:13.140]  You don't have to try to understand it.
[01:20:13.140 --> 01:20:15.140]  Just cruise through it.
[01:20:15.140 --> 01:20:20.140]  It looks bigger than it is, but there's a lot of white space because it's all outlined,
[01:20:20.140 --> 01:20:24.140]  and you'll see stuff, family law and stuff you don't have anything to do with.
[01:20:24.140 --> 01:20:25.140]  You can go through it quickly.
[01:20:25.140 --> 01:20:26.140]  I went to Pennsylvania.
[01:20:26.140 --> 01:20:30.140]  It took me two hours to go through the whole penal code.
[01:20:30.140 --> 01:20:35.140]  It's really not long, and, man, I found some gems in there.
[01:20:35.140 --> 01:20:40.140]  You'll be surprised what you'll find, and then get the criminal procedure code
[01:20:40.140 --> 01:20:43.140]  and read through it just quickly.
[01:20:43.140 --> 01:20:47.140]  It will give you an overview, and then you'll start looking at what happened,
[01:20:47.140 --> 01:20:49.140]  and you say, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:20:49.140 --> 01:20:53.140]  That's this crime, and this is that crime, and this is this crime.
[01:20:53.140 --> 01:21:03.140]  When I go after a jurisdiction, I do what in psychology we call a reframe.
[01:21:03.140 --> 01:21:07.140]  I become the investigator, and they become the perps.
[01:21:07.140 --> 01:21:09.140]  Right.
[01:21:09.140 --> 01:21:11.140]  That wouldn't be a counterclaim, would it?
[01:21:11.140 --> 01:21:13.140]  No, that's later.
[01:21:13.140 --> 01:21:17.140]  No, because see, what you're doing, like what he's saying to look through the penal code
[01:21:17.140 --> 01:21:21.140]  and the code of criminal procedure, you're looking for the law
[01:21:21.140 --> 01:21:26.140]  that lays out the requirements of what they have to do
[01:21:26.140 --> 01:21:29.140]  and what they're not allowed to do and things like that.
[01:21:29.140 --> 01:21:35.140]  For example, it could say in the code of criminal procedure that upon arrest,
[01:21:35.140 --> 01:21:42.140]  after 48 hours, they would have to prove some unmitigating circumstance
[01:21:42.140 --> 01:21:48.140]  of why they had not been able to take someone to a magistrate.
[01:21:48.140 --> 01:21:53.140]  The courts have held that they have to take them to a magistrate immediately
[01:21:53.140 --> 01:21:56.140]  unless it's like in the middle of the night, like Randy said.
[01:21:56.140 --> 01:22:03.140]  However, after 48 hours, if that person has not been taken to a magistrate,
[01:22:03.140 --> 01:22:08.140]  that's prima facie evidence that they didn't try,
[01:22:08.140 --> 01:22:13.140]  and they would have to prove that there was something like an earthquake
[01:22:13.140 --> 01:22:18.140]  or some kind of natural disaster or something outrageous that prevented them
[01:22:18.140 --> 01:22:24.140]  from actually getting the arrested person to the magistrate after 48 hours.
[01:22:24.140 --> 01:22:30.140]  In your case, after nine days, if there's electricity and running water
[01:22:30.140 --> 01:22:35.140]  and the cars are running and there's gasoline in them or whatever,
[01:22:35.140 --> 01:22:39.140]  the guy's in the jail and the magistrate is in the same building,
[01:22:39.140 --> 01:22:44.140]  it doesn't look like there's any unmitigating circumstance of why he couldn't have been taken to the magistrate.
[01:22:44.140 --> 01:22:52.140]  You get to file criminal charges against all those people for violating that section of the law.
[01:22:52.140 --> 01:22:57.140]  They are the ones that broke the law for not taking your husband to a magistrate after 48 hours.
[01:22:57.140 --> 01:23:03.140]  That's what Randy's saying is that you look for things that they did wrong.
[01:23:03.140 --> 01:23:05.140]  What laws did they break?
[01:23:05.140 --> 01:23:08.140]  Then you start filing criminal charges against them for it.
[01:23:08.140 --> 01:23:12.140]  Okay, so in their own court, like the judge and the DA, right?
[01:23:12.140 --> 01:23:15.140]  Yeah, you would file charges against...
[01:23:15.140 --> 01:23:18.140]  Yeah, go to the district attorney or you go to the grand jury.
[01:23:18.140 --> 01:23:19.140]  I have absolutely...
[01:23:19.140 --> 01:23:23.140]  Keep in mind, this is a small town, so there's one district court judge.
[01:23:23.140 --> 01:23:24.140]  Good.
[01:23:24.140 --> 01:23:28.140]  Then you get to kick him right in his teeth, and then you get to move to...
[01:23:28.140 --> 01:23:29.140]  And he's running for Supreme Court.
[01:23:29.140 --> 01:23:32.140]  They set a trial date for him of November 30th.
[01:23:32.140 --> 01:23:33.140]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:23:33.140 --> 01:23:34.140]  They found it out in the newspaper.
[01:23:34.140 --> 01:23:38.140]  Wait a minute, did you just say your district judge is running for Supreme Court?
[01:23:38.140 --> 01:23:41.140]  Yeah, they set a month down again.
[01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:45.140]  Oh, I would take care of his Supreme Court aspirations.
[01:23:45.140 --> 01:23:50.140]  Yeah, that's what I wanted to do, and I didn't know if it was through trying to do the lien process on it.
[01:23:50.140 --> 01:23:51.140]  Do not do the lien process.
[01:23:51.140 --> 01:23:52.140]  I would not do that.
[01:23:52.140 --> 01:23:55.140]  Go to that judge.
[01:23:55.140 --> 01:23:57.140]  Okay, I have a process.
[01:23:57.140 --> 01:23:58.140]  Okay.
[01:23:58.140 --> 01:24:01.140]  Generally, I start at the bottom.
[01:24:01.140 --> 01:24:09.140]  When you go to the police to file a complaint, there's two ways of doing that.
[01:24:09.140 --> 01:24:14.140]  One is to take their voluntary statement and fill it out.
[01:24:14.140 --> 01:24:17.140]  Well, that's not exactly filing a complaint.
[01:24:17.140 --> 01:24:19.140]  That's complaining.
[01:24:19.140 --> 01:24:20.140]  Right.
[01:24:20.140 --> 01:24:21.140]  And then they look into it.
[01:24:21.140 --> 01:24:28.140]  Well, when you file a complaint, the term complaint is a term of art.
[01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:33.140]  By that, I mean it has a special definition in law.
[01:24:33.140 --> 01:24:36.140]  It's a verified criminal affidavit.
[01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:39.140]  Verified means notarized.
[01:24:39.140 --> 01:24:40.140]  Right.
[01:24:40.140 --> 01:24:43.140]  And generally, the state has a specific form.
[01:24:43.140 --> 01:24:46.140]  Like in Texas, a complaint shall run in the name of the state of Texas.
[01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:50.140]  It starts with, in the name and by the authority of the state of Texas,
[01:24:50.140 --> 01:24:54.140]  I, Randall Kelton, have reason to believe, and do believe based on the following,
[01:24:54.140 --> 01:25:00.140]  that Joe Jerk did all these rotten things, and therefore,
[01:25:00.140 --> 01:25:07.140]  I allege that on or before this day, this officer violated this law.
[01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:17.140]  Attached to that, a verified affidavit stating the facts of your allegation.
[01:25:17.140 --> 01:25:21.140]  Take them to a notary, have them notarized so they're all verified,
[01:25:21.140 --> 01:25:27.140]  and go in and they'll give you this little volunteer statement to fill out,
[01:25:27.140 --> 01:25:31.140]  fill it out for them, and then hand them the statement back
[01:25:31.140 --> 01:25:35.140]  with your verified criminal affidavits attached.
[01:25:35.140 --> 01:25:38.140]  Oh, to the actual sheriff's department?
[01:25:38.140 --> 01:25:40.140]  Yeah.
[01:25:40.140 --> 01:25:41.140]  Okay.
[01:25:41.140 --> 01:25:44.140]  Now, they're going to get real excited when they see those.
[01:25:44.140 --> 01:25:45.140]  Right.
[01:25:45.140 --> 01:25:47.140]  And they're going to say, well, I can't take these.
[01:25:47.140 --> 01:25:52.140]  Oh, okay, then I need you to call the sheriff's department for me.
[01:25:52.140 --> 01:25:55.140]  If this is a municipal court, you know, like a city police?
[01:25:55.140 --> 01:25:58.140]  No, no, it's a district court, and we're dealing with the sheriff's department,
[01:25:58.140 --> 01:25:59.140]  not the police.
[01:25:59.140 --> 01:26:04.140]  Okay, then tell the sheriff's department, I need you to call the state police,
[01:26:04.140 --> 01:26:05.140]  because I need somebody to...
[01:26:05.140 --> 01:26:06.140]  How about the U.S. Marshal?
[01:26:06.140 --> 01:26:08.140]  No, you can't go U.S. yet.
[01:26:08.140 --> 01:26:09.140]  It's not federal.
[01:26:09.140 --> 01:26:10.140]  Okay.
[01:26:10.140 --> 01:26:15.140]  I need you to get the state police in here, because I need somebody to arrest you.
[01:26:15.140 --> 01:26:18.140]  So you call the local state police and ask them to send somebody out,
[01:26:18.140 --> 01:26:20.140]  send somebody out to arrest you.
[01:26:20.140 --> 01:26:24.140]  I have done this before, and it is a hoot.
[01:26:24.140 --> 01:26:26.140]  Yeah, now do you think it's safe for me to do this?
[01:26:26.140 --> 01:26:29.140]  Because I'm already, I'm going to be honest with you,
[01:26:29.140 --> 01:26:32.140]  I'm in hiding right now from these people, because I'm scared of them.
[01:26:32.140 --> 01:26:37.140]  Okay, then take your criminal complaint straight to the district judge.
[01:26:37.140 --> 01:26:40.140]  The same district judge that's railroading her husband?
[01:26:40.140 --> 01:26:43.140]  Yes, because you want to turn that train around.
[01:26:43.140 --> 01:26:54.140]  The problem with the train coming down the track at you, trains go in both directions.
[01:26:54.140 --> 01:26:55.140]  That's their problem.
[01:26:55.140 --> 01:27:00.140]  This is the way I tend to do it, and take witnesses with you.
[01:27:00.140 --> 01:27:03.140]  So I just go in there on a day he's having court and just...
[01:27:03.140 --> 01:27:08.140]  Yeah, you want to find a day when he's having motion hearings,
[01:27:08.140 --> 01:27:14.140]  because in motion hearings it takes about 5, 10 minutes to hear a motion on the average.
[01:27:14.140 --> 01:27:16.140]  I would like a continuance.
[01:27:16.140 --> 01:27:19.140]  And the other one says, no, I don't want a continuance.
[01:27:19.140 --> 01:27:21.140]  Okay, don't get on calendar, just show up.
[01:27:21.140 --> 01:27:22.140]  Yeah, just show up.
[01:27:22.140 --> 01:27:25.140]  So there's a lot of breaks.
[01:27:25.140 --> 01:27:27.140]  So this is what I do.
[01:27:27.140 --> 01:27:30.140]  I always wear my suit, nice suit, nice tie.
[01:27:30.140 --> 01:27:33.140]  I walk in, I point at the bailiff, you, come here.
[01:27:33.140 --> 01:27:35.140]  They hate that.
[01:27:35.140 --> 01:27:37.140]  They hate to be summoned.
[01:27:37.140 --> 01:27:39.140]  And he'll say, can I help you?
[01:27:39.140 --> 01:27:40.140]  And I said, yes.
[01:27:40.140 --> 01:27:41.140]  I always tell them my name first.
[01:27:41.140 --> 01:27:43.140]  I don't want them asking me questions.
[01:27:43.140 --> 01:27:45.140]  My name is Randall Kelton.
[01:27:45.140 --> 01:27:48.140]  Instruct the judge that I have business with the court.
[01:27:48.140 --> 01:27:50.140]  And they always say the same thing.
[01:27:50.140 --> 01:27:52.140]  May I tell the judge the nature of the business?
[01:27:52.140 --> 01:27:53.140]  No, you may not.
[01:27:53.140 --> 01:27:54.140]  I have business with the court.
[01:27:54.140 --> 01:27:55.140]  There's none of yours.
[01:27:55.140 --> 01:27:56.140]  You're dismissed.
[01:27:56.140 --> 01:27:57.140]  I go sit down.
[01:27:57.140 --> 01:28:00.140]  I don't talk to them anymore.
[01:28:00.140 --> 01:28:05.140]  And generally, it may be different with me because I'm a guy.
[01:28:05.140 --> 01:28:08.140]  They'll feel like they can push a woman around more.
[01:28:08.140 --> 01:28:09.140]  So if they...
[01:28:09.140 --> 01:28:11.140]  Sometimes it's opposite though.
[01:28:11.140 --> 01:28:12.140]  Sometimes it is.
[01:28:12.140 --> 01:28:16.140]  Because sometimes they feel like they want to push the man around.
[01:28:16.140 --> 01:28:18.140]  And since it's a woman, they'll just do what you ask.
[01:28:18.140 --> 01:28:23.140]  Because they don't want to appear confrontational or combative or abusive to a female.
[01:28:23.140 --> 01:28:25.140]  So sometimes it works the opposite.
[01:28:25.140 --> 01:28:29.140]  So what you do, what I suggest you do is take your complaints.
[01:28:29.140 --> 01:28:31.140]  You need notarized complaints.
[01:28:31.140 --> 01:28:34.140]  Put them in a red folder.
[01:28:34.140 --> 01:28:37.140]  And then take the folder shut.
[01:28:37.140 --> 01:28:39.140]  So if he wants to tell them...
[01:28:39.140 --> 01:28:41.140]  They want you to tell them the nature of the...
[01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:42.140]  Okay, here.
[01:28:42.140 --> 01:28:43.140]  Give him this.
[01:28:43.140 --> 01:28:46.140]  Take it shut so he can't open it.
[01:28:46.140 --> 01:28:47.140]  And then go sit.
[01:28:47.140 --> 01:28:48.140]  Don't talk to him anymore.
[01:28:48.140 --> 01:28:49.140]  If he tries to talk to you anymore, go away.
[01:28:49.140 --> 01:28:50.140]  Go away.
[01:28:50.140 --> 01:28:51.140]  And take out...
[01:28:51.140 --> 01:28:54.140]  Did I also certify mail this the same day?
[01:28:54.140 --> 01:28:55.140]  No.
[01:28:55.140 --> 01:28:56.140]  Okay.
[01:28:56.140 --> 01:29:02.140]  You take a pad and piece of paper with you and write his name down.
[01:29:02.140 --> 01:29:04.140]  And you just sit there taking notes.
[01:29:04.140 --> 01:29:08.140]  I like to go sit in the courtroom taking notes first for a while.
[01:29:08.140 --> 01:29:12.140]  Because somebody will come over and ask if I have a case here today.
[01:29:12.140 --> 01:29:14.140]  No, no, no.
[01:29:14.140 --> 01:29:18.140]  And if they ask me a couple of questions, I tell them, no more questions, no more questions.
[01:29:18.140 --> 01:29:20.140]  And then they wonder who the heck you are.
[01:29:20.140 --> 01:29:22.140]  And then I call the bailiff.
[01:29:22.140 --> 01:29:23.140]  They don't already know who I am now.
[01:29:23.140 --> 01:29:24.140]  Yeah, right.
[01:29:24.140 --> 01:29:25.140]  Exactly.
[01:29:25.140 --> 01:29:26.140]  This is a small town.
[01:29:26.140 --> 01:29:31.140]  Do you have someone that they don't know?
[01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:33.140]  I might be able to rustle that up.
[01:29:33.140 --> 01:29:39.140]  You know, another idea may be to just go straight to the state police.
[01:29:39.140 --> 01:29:42.140]  First, you want to set up the district judge so you can hammer him.
[01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:44.140]  You start hammering the district judge.
[01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:45.140]  He's going to want this case to go away.
[01:29:45.140 --> 01:29:46.140]  Okay, boy.
[01:29:46.140 --> 01:29:47.140]  We have got a lot of callers on the line.
[01:29:47.140 --> 01:29:49.140]  Randy, can you wrap it up quickly on the other side?
[01:29:49.140 --> 01:29:51.140]  I tell you what, Reese, this is going to take too long.
[01:29:51.140 --> 01:29:53.140]  Can you call back tomorrow?
[01:29:53.140 --> 01:29:54.140]  Probably.
[01:29:54.140 --> 01:29:55.140]  What time?
[01:29:55.140 --> 01:29:56.140]  8 p.m.
[01:29:56.140 --> 01:30:01.140]  Yeah, we've got a four-hour show tomorrow.
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[01:31:02.140 --> 01:31:05.140]  Yeah, who you want to check? Who you take me for? Free Tully?
[01:31:05.140 --> 01:31:09.140]  What do you want to check? I'm not free Tully. You can't check me.
[01:31:09.140 --> 01:31:11.140]  All the time.
[01:31:11.140 --> 01:31:14.140]  Don't let them check you in the morning, check you in the evening.
[01:31:14.140 --> 01:31:18.140]  Put a chip in your body, and then when you go computer reading,
[01:31:18.140 --> 01:31:20.140]  you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:31:20.140 --> 01:31:23.140]  What me say? Chip in your mouth, chip in your daddy,
[01:31:23.140 --> 01:31:28.140]  chip in your grandpa and the grammy, chip in your me, chip in your BAB,
[01:31:28.140 --> 01:31:33.140]  chip in your family, whole family, chip in your dog and the cat around me,
[01:31:33.140 --> 01:31:37.140]  chip in the beef and you still go easy, chip in the fish, them all in the sea,
[01:31:37.140 --> 01:31:40.140]  chip in the shark and the whale around me.
[01:31:40.140 --> 01:31:42.140]  You know still mankind gone check crazy,
[01:31:42.140 --> 01:31:45.140]  tell the king and the queen and they want to read it.
[01:31:45.140 --> 01:31:47.140]  Social security, they go tell me.
[01:31:47.140 --> 01:31:50.140]  Number when they give me, they repeat up you see.
[01:31:50.140 --> 01:31:52.140]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening,
[01:31:52.140 --> 01:31:54.140]  chip you all the dinner time.
[01:31:54.140 --> 01:31:59.140]  Experiment on mankind, but man you know say them lie.
[01:31:59.140 --> 01:32:02.140]  Well, we don't want no chip, man you have your body.
[01:32:02.140 --> 01:32:04.140]  Freedom or something, man you fight for it.
[01:32:04.140 --> 01:32:07.140]  You should tell them they free read it.
[01:32:07.140 --> 01:32:09.140]  Constitution set us free.
[01:32:09.140 --> 01:32:11.140]  Don't let them put no chip in your body.
[01:32:11.140 --> 01:32:14.140]  Put no chip in your dog or cat you see.
[01:32:14.140 --> 01:32:16.140]  No put no chip in your cow and go eat it.
[01:32:16.140 --> 01:32:18.140]  No put no chip in the fish and go eat it.
[01:32:18.140 --> 01:32:21.140]  All in the whale and the shark in the sea.
[01:32:21.140 --> 01:32:23.140]  Put the little chip in the little baby.
[01:32:23.140 --> 01:32:25.140]  Want to put the chip in a grandpa you see.
[01:32:25.140 --> 01:32:28.140]  Want to put the little chip in a high man body.
[01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:30.140]  If me go hide in the advantage,
[01:32:30.140 --> 01:32:33.140]  man did have to lie and me say go find me.
[01:32:33.140 --> 01:32:35.140]  Satellite get mad, satellite get angry.
[01:32:35.140 --> 01:32:37.140]  Two chip them use me say cross up you see.
[01:32:37.140 --> 01:32:40.140]  Me say chip in the morning, chip in the evening,
[01:32:40.140 --> 01:32:42.140]  chip in all your body.
[01:32:42.140 --> 01:32:44.140]  Man don't let them come from chip we.
[01:32:44.140 --> 01:32:46.140]  Put no chip in the little baby.
[01:32:46.140 --> 01:32:49.140]  Me say chip in the morning, chip in the evening.
[01:32:49.140 --> 01:32:51.140]  They want to come and not chip me.
[01:32:51.140 --> 01:32:54.140]  But they want to chip all in the sea.
[01:32:54.140 --> 01:32:56.140]  And the shark and the whale around me.
[01:32:56.140 --> 01:32:59.140]  When me say chip for your mom, chip for your daddy.
[01:32:59.140 --> 01:33:01.140]  Chip for them little, little baby.
[01:33:01.140 --> 01:33:04.140]  Chip for the shark them we eat in the sea.
[01:33:04.140 --> 01:33:06.140]  Chip for the whale and the mull around me.
[01:33:06.140 --> 01:33:08.140]  Chip for the dog and they keep them you see.
[01:33:08.140 --> 01:33:11.140]  Even want to chip man the chip around me.
[01:33:11.140 --> 01:33:13.140]  Chip in the cow beef you go eat it.
[01:33:13.140 --> 01:33:16.140]  Chip the kind of thing getting me angry.
[01:33:16.140 --> 01:33:18.140]  Man come on it's unnecessary.
[01:33:18.140 --> 01:33:21.140]  Give me source of security come about you see.
[01:33:21.140 --> 01:33:22.140]  Okay we are back.
[01:33:22.140 --> 01:33:24.140]  We're taking our calls.
[01:33:24.140 --> 01:33:26.140]  Greasy is going to call back tomorrow night.
[01:33:26.140 --> 01:33:28.140]  We're going to talk about this some more.
[01:33:28.140 --> 01:33:31.140]  Different types of strategies.
[01:33:31.140 --> 01:33:35.140]  Setting up the district judge to refuse to take a criminal complaint
[01:33:35.140 --> 01:33:38.140]  so she could file criminal charges against him too.
[01:33:38.140 --> 01:33:41.140]  And eventually looking like she's going to have to go to state police
[01:33:41.140 --> 01:33:47.140]  or higher authorities because she's in such a small town.
[01:33:47.140 --> 01:33:50.140]  She's going to continue to be the run around, run around.
[01:33:50.140 --> 01:33:53.140]  So we're going to talk to her some more about that tomorrow night.
[01:33:53.140 --> 01:33:55.140]  In the meantime we've got a couple of first time callers.
[01:33:55.140 --> 01:33:58.140]  We want to go to the first time callers first.
[01:33:58.140 --> 01:34:01.140]  We've got Jason in Georgia and then Wayne from New York.
[01:34:01.140 --> 01:34:02.140]  And then we'll go to Eric and Gail.
[01:34:02.140 --> 01:34:04.140]  Jason, thanks for calling in.
[01:34:04.140 --> 01:34:05.140]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:34:05.140 --> 01:34:07.140]  What's your question?
[01:34:07.140 --> 01:34:12.140]  Hey, I wanted to talk about default judgments if I may.
[01:34:12.140 --> 01:34:19.140]  There's been a number of people speaking on the network in reference to
[01:34:19.140 --> 01:34:26.140]  judgments that are void or voidable.
[01:34:26.140 --> 01:34:34.140]  And some people have mentioned that there needs to be a sworn affidavit
[01:34:34.140 --> 01:34:38.140]  from someone who has firsthand knowledge.
[01:34:38.140 --> 01:34:43.140]  That's entered with a default judgment when the default judgment is entered.
[01:34:43.140 --> 01:34:48.140]  Yes, they were discussing that on Agenda 21 Tuesday night.
[01:34:48.140 --> 01:34:58.140]  Yes, I have a default judgment from 1998 where a company sued me
[01:34:58.140 --> 01:35:02.140]  and they were awarded a default judgment.
[01:35:02.140 --> 01:35:07.140]  I went and pulled the file this week.
[01:35:07.140 --> 01:35:16.140]  And the only thing in the file is the proof of service.
[01:35:16.140 --> 01:35:23.140]  And it has a two-page, it has a summons with the proof of service.
[01:35:23.140 --> 01:35:31.140]  And then it has a two-page, I guess you would say a brief describing the debt.
[01:35:31.140 --> 01:35:35.140]  But basically there's no affidavit with it is what you're saying?
[01:35:35.140 --> 01:35:36.140]  None whatsoever.
[01:35:36.140 --> 01:35:40.140]  The two-page brief is signed by the attorney who is now deceased.
[01:35:40.140 --> 01:35:50.140]  And then behind it, it has a copy of the debt.
[01:35:50.140 --> 01:35:54.140]  Okay, now listen, I had Randy start to chase some of this down
[01:35:54.140 --> 01:35:58.140]  because on Tuesday night when they were talking about this,
[01:35:58.140 --> 01:36:03.140]  the guy was saying for sure it's in Florida law and you're in Georgia.
[01:36:03.140 --> 01:36:12.140]  And I couldn't get at the time and I'm still waiting on like links to show if that is true,
[01:36:12.140 --> 01:36:18.140]  if that's state law in other states or how that works at the federal level.
[01:36:18.140 --> 01:36:24.140]  Now Randy was saying he looked up concern on PACER, I mean I'm not on PACER on Lexis,
[01:36:24.140 --> 01:36:30.140]  he looked up case law concerning that situation regarding federal government default judgments,
[01:36:30.140 --> 01:36:34.140]  like when the federal government gets a default judgment against someone.
[01:36:34.140 --> 01:36:40.140]  And Randy said that what the law is on that particular situation is that it just has to do
[01:36:40.140 --> 01:36:47.140]  with the curing of the default judgment and that if the affidavit is not entered within 30 days,
[01:36:47.140 --> 01:36:50.140]  then basically the default judgment is not cured.
[01:36:50.140 --> 01:36:56.140]  But the other party, the opposing party, whoever gets the default judgment against them,
[01:36:56.140 --> 01:37:01.140]  they have 30 days to object to the affidavit not being entered.
[01:37:01.140 --> 01:37:04.140]  And after the 30 days, you lose your opportunity to object.
[01:37:04.140 --> 01:37:09.140]  And so in the case of a federal government getting a default judgment against you,
[01:37:09.140 --> 01:37:12.140]  you only have 30 days to object if the affidavit isn't entered.
[01:37:12.140 --> 01:37:18.140]  Now I don't know if that's the case every time across the board with other situations,
[01:37:18.140 --> 01:37:23.140]  not regarding federal default judgments or if that's the law in the state government.
[01:37:23.140 --> 01:37:29.140]  So we're still, I am still vetting that particular situation out at this point.
[01:37:29.140 --> 01:37:34.140]  So if you could look into Georgia law and see if there's anything in Georgia statute
[01:37:34.140 --> 01:37:39.140]  regarding that situation, unless you have access to PACER,
[01:37:39.140 --> 01:37:45.140]  it might be difficult to look up case law on that, but I would encourage at this point in time,
[01:37:45.140 --> 01:37:49.140]  putting it out there, that we're still vetting that situation out as well,
[01:37:49.140 --> 01:37:52.140]  because it may just be the case in Florida law.
[01:37:52.140 --> 01:37:55.140]  Okay, so we still need to look that up.
[01:37:55.140 --> 01:37:59.140]  Okay, two more very quick questions.
[01:37:59.140 --> 01:38:07.140]  My first question is, you guys should make the music that you have on the show downloadable,
[01:38:07.140 --> 01:38:09.140]  because wherever you get it from, it's great.
[01:38:09.140 --> 01:38:13.140]  It's my music, it's my band, and it is downloadable.
[01:38:13.140 --> 01:38:19.140]  My band is Three Shoes Posse, and you can go to threeshoesposse.com to purchase that music.
[01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:20.140]  Oh, that would be wonderful.
[01:38:20.140 --> 01:38:22.140]  I'd love listening to it.
[01:38:22.140 --> 01:38:33.140]  My last and final question is, are you guys familiar with Richard McDonald out of California?
[01:38:33.140 --> 01:38:35.140]  No.
[01:38:35.140 --> 01:38:36.140]  No?
[01:38:36.140 --> 01:38:37.140]  I've been listening to him.
[01:38:37.140 --> 01:38:47.140]  He has a website with audio files on it, and he is one of these guys similar to a lot of them
[01:38:47.140 --> 01:38:50.140]  that claim that you have a right to travel.
[01:38:50.140 --> 01:38:54.140]  Is that argument dead at this point?
[01:38:54.140 --> 01:38:56.140]  No, it's not dead.
[01:38:56.140 --> 01:38:59.140]  You haven't been listening to the show long, have you?
[01:38:59.140 --> 01:39:01.140]  No, I have been listening to the show.
[01:39:01.140 --> 01:39:07.140]  In fact, I've been listening to people, a person also that claims that he drives without every day,
[01:39:07.140 --> 01:39:10.140]  a gentleman named Dave Merlin.
[01:39:10.140 --> 01:39:17.140]  The problem is there's no one that I can find that has won using that argument,
[01:39:17.140 --> 01:39:22.140]  and what James McDonald says out of California is his argument is,
[01:39:22.140 --> 01:39:27.140]  sure, you have a right to travel, but if you're a state citizen only,
[01:39:27.140 --> 01:39:32.140]  once you become a federal citizen, then you acquiesce into all the statutes.
[01:39:32.140 --> 01:39:34.140]  No, I don't know about that.
[01:39:34.140 --> 01:39:35.140]  I don't know about that.
[01:39:35.140 --> 01:39:42.140]  I disagree with that statement, and we've got the traffic expert as our co-host right here with us right now,
[01:39:42.140 --> 01:39:48.140]  Eddie Craig, and he has thoroughly dissected the traffic code of the state of Texas,
[01:39:48.140 --> 01:39:52.140]  and pretty much every other state is the same, and you don't even need to go to those types of arguments
[01:39:52.140 --> 01:39:59.140]  because the bottom line is this, the statute of the transportation code itself only applies
[01:39:59.140 --> 01:40:04.140]  if you are engaging in commercial activities on the roadways.
[01:40:04.140 --> 01:40:12.140]  In other words, you have to be transporting passengers or load for hire on the roadways,
[01:40:12.140 --> 01:40:18.140]  on the public roadways if any of the transportation code is going to apply to you at all whatsoever.
[01:40:18.140 --> 01:40:24.140]  If you're not engaged in commerce on the roadways, transportation code doesn't apply to you in a story,
[01:40:24.140 --> 01:40:27.140]  and so you don't need to go to all this citizen crapola.
[01:40:27.140 --> 01:40:31.140]  Okay, let me ask you this then, Eddie Craig, right, the traffic guru.
[01:40:31.140 --> 01:40:36.140]  So I live in Georgia, and I live in a somewhat rural area outside of Atlanta,
[01:40:36.140 --> 01:40:39.140]  and I'm wondering what does one do?
[01:40:39.140 --> 01:40:45.140]  Do I go in and sue for a declaratory judgment and show all these points and say,
[01:40:45.140 --> 01:40:50.140]  see, my right is here, or do I just get rid of my plates and my license
[01:40:50.140 --> 01:40:55.140]  and go down the road and fight it in that respect?
[01:40:55.140 --> 01:41:01.140]  Well, most states refuse to allow you to sue in court without their version of standing.
[01:41:01.140 --> 01:41:07.140]  Now, technically speaking, my understanding of the Constitution is that when a public servant violates it,
[01:41:07.140 --> 01:41:10.140]  I have standing no matter who he violates it against
[01:41:10.140 --> 01:41:15.140]  because that's just as much my Constitution as any other citizen.
[01:41:15.140 --> 01:41:22.140]  So when they violate that, any citizen should and in my opinion does have standing to go after them.
[01:41:22.140 --> 01:41:30.140]  But the courts have it rigged in their favor where you must be directly harmed in their eyes
[01:41:30.140 --> 01:41:34.140]  before you have standing to go after anyone in that regard.
[01:41:34.140 --> 01:41:40.140]  So a declaratory judgment would not work where you would sue in state court,
[01:41:40.140 --> 01:41:46.140]  in superior court of my county and say, I'm suing for a declaratory judgment.
[01:41:46.140 --> 01:41:49.140]  You tell me that I don't have a right to travel.
[01:41:49.140 --> 01:41:50.140]  Right.
[01:41:50.140 --> 01:41:51.140]  That wouldn't work.
[01:41:51.140 --> 01:41:56.140]  You would actually have to get a ticket and fight the ticket and make a suit out of that.
[01:41:56.140 --> 01:42:03.140]  That's the way most of the states have it set up to work when it comes to government intervention in your rights.
[01:42:03.140 --> 01:42:08.140]  Are there any confirmed kills with this in any state in the nation
[01:42:08.140 --> 01:42:13.140]  other than the few that I've heard that have happened in California?
[01:42:13.140 --> 01:42:20.140]  Yeah, I've had the courts here just mail me back my bond and everything else and ask me not to come to court.
[01:42:20.140 --> 01:42:25.140]  We've had listeners that have had their traffic tickets dismissed
[01:42:25.140 --> 01:42:30.140]  as soon as they start filing the types of motions and making the type of arguments that Eddie is talking about.
[01:42:30.140 --> 01:42:33.140]  In fact, one of our listeners, Terry in Michigan,
[01:42:33.140 --> 01:42:38.140]  he came down here for the traffic seminar that we put on a few months ago.
[01:42:38.140 --> 01:42:43.140]  He had the books from the traffic seminar, all the traffic seminar materials in his trunk
[01:42:43.140 --> 01:42:46.140]  along with some O'Connor's and some other law books.
[01:42:46.140 --> 01:42:48.140]  They tried to stop him.
[01:42:48.140 --> 01:42:51.140]  They did stop him in Texas on the way back to Michigan.
[01:42:51.140 --> 01:42:55.140]  They pulled him over and they started to illegally search his car.
[01:42:55.140 --> 01:42:59.140]  When they saw the traffic seminar books and the law books in the trunk,
[01:42:59.140 --> 01:43:02.140]  they slammed the trunk and gave him his keys back and said,
[01:43:02.140 --> 01:43:05.140]  have a nice trip back to Michigan, sir.
[01:43:05.140 --> 01:43:09.140]  They just let him go immediately as soon as they saw this trouble coming down the pipe
[01:43:09.140 --> 01:43:12.140]  because, see, they know, these cops know,
[01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:19.140]  they know that the transportation code only applies if you are engaged in commerce.
[01:43:19.140 --> 01:43:23.140]  When you even, with this guy's situation, Terry,
[01:43:23.140 --> 01:43:26.140]  just even the hints that he knows that that's the case,
[01:43:26.140 --> 01:43:29.140]  they're like, okay, we can't fool this guy, let's just let him go.
[01:43:29.140 --> 01:43:32.140]  Let's look for the next sucker on the road.
[01:43:32.140 --> 01:43:34.140]  Yeah, the low-hanging fruit.
[01:43:34.140 --> 01:43:35.140]  Exactly.
[01:43:35.140 --> 01:43:38.140]  Okay, listen, Georgia, Jason and Georgia,
[01:43:38.140 --> 01:43:42.140]  we need to let you go so that we can get to some other callers this last segment.
[01:43:42.140 --> 01:43:44.140]  All right, guys, see you tomorrow night.
[01:43:44.140 --> 01:43:46.140]  Okay, call in tomorrow night, thanks.
[01:43:46.140 --> 01:43:47.140]  Thanks.
[01:43:47.140 --> 01:43:49.140]  Okay, we've got Wayne in New York, another first-time caller,
[01:43:49.140 --> 01:43:53.140]  and then we'll go to Eric and Gail as quickly as possible.
[01:43:53.140 --> 01:43:55.140]  This is the rule of law.
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[01:45:08.140 --> 01:45:09.140]  Hello.
[01:45:09.140 --> 01:45:12.140]  Oh, man, you're in jail.
[01:45:12.140 --> 01:45:14.140]  You got busted, man.
[01:45:14.140 --> 01:45:19.140]  I'm broke, dude.
[01:45:22.140 --> 01:45:26.140]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:26.140 --> 01:45:30.140]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:30.140 --> 01:45:35.140]  Somebody's on the police, a policeman.
[01:45:35.140 --> 01:45:39.140]  Somebody's on the police, a bully.
[01:45:39.140 --> 01:45:44.140]  There's always a room at the top of the hill.
[01:45:44.140 --> 01:45:48.140]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely there, too.
[01:45:48.140 --> 01:45:52.140]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail.
[01:45:52.140 --> 01:45:56.140]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:56.140 --> 01:46:00.140]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:00.140 --> 01:46:05.140]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:05.140 --> 01:46:10.140]  Somebody's on the police, a policeman.
[01:46:10.140 --> 01:46:11.140]  All right.
[01:46:11.140 --> 01:46:15.140]  Somebody is going to police the policeman.
[01:46:15.140 --> 01:46:17.140]  Somebody's going to bully the bully.
[01:46:17.140 --> 01:46:18.140]  That would be us.
[01:46:18.140 --> 01:46:20.140]  And that would be you, listeners.
[01:46:20.140 --> 01:46:23.140]  And that song right there, we know Jah will.
[01:46:23.140 --> 01:46:24.140]  We know God will.
[01:46:24.140 --> 01:46:28.140]  He will tip back the scales.
[01:46:28.140 --> 01:46:32.140]  That is some Route 1 Music Force, which is also a band that I am in,
[01:46:32.140 --> 01:46:36.140]  my husband and I, two different bands, Three Shoes Posse and Route 1.
[01:46:36.140 --> 01:46:43.140]  And you can get the Route 1 music at route1.net, R-O-O-T, the number 1.net.
[01:46:43.140 --> 01:46:44.140]  All right.
[01:46:44.140 --> 01:46:47.140]  We're going to our first-time caller here, Wayne in New York.
[01:46:47.140 --> 01:46:48.140]  Wayne, thanks for calling in.
[01:46:48.140 --> 01:46:49.140]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:46:49.140 --> 01:46:50.140]  Hi, folks.
[01:46:50.140 --> 01:46:51.140]  Hi, folks.
[01:46:51.140 --> 01:46:54.140]  I have a question about grand juries.
[01:46:54.140 --> 01:46:55.140]  Okay.
[01:46:55.140 --> 01:46:56.140]  Okay.
[01:46:56.140 --> 01:46:59.140]  I've heard you talk about the grand jury and, of course, the importance of it.
[01:46:59.140 --> 01:47:03.140]  Now, the federal system, federal's criminal procedure,
[01:47:03.140 --> 01:47:10.140]  a grand jury indictment or information, can they bypass, destroy that right
[01:47:10.140 --> 01:47:15.140]  and bypass the grand jury and come right in with that information without consent?
[01:47:15.140 --> 01:47:16.140]  No.
[01:47:16.140 --> 01:47:18.140]  I don't think so.
[01:47:18.140 --> 01:47:24.140]  But what they do is the U.S. attorney has a stamp,
[01:47:24.140 --> 01:47:28.140]  a rubber stamp with the foreman's signature on it.
[01:47:28.140 --> 01:47:29.140]  Yes.
[01:47:29.140 --> 01:47:33.140]  So any time there is a federal indictment and you need to go down
[01:47:33.140 --> 01:47:43.140]  and do a FOIA for the disbursements to the grand jury court reporter
[01:47:43.140 --> 01:47:50.140]  and find out if he entered a voucher for the day you supposedly got the indictment.
[01:47:50.140 --> 01:47:51.140]  Okay.
[01:47:51.140 --> 01:47:53.140]  So if I got the stamp and it's been filed on April 12,
[01:47:53.140 --> 01:47:56.140]  then I ask for what happened on April 12.
[01:47:56.140 --> 01:48:02.140]  Ask, yeah, look for a disbursement to the court reporter.
[01:48:02.140 --> 01:48:05.140]  There's no way they can call that secret.
[01:48:05.140 --> 01:48:08.140]  This is the money they pay the court reporter.
[01:48:08.140 --> 01:48:13.140]  So find out when he got, if he got a voucher for that day.
[01:48:13.140 --> 01:48:15.140]  If not, that's a reasonable probable cause.
[01:48:15.140 --> 01:48:18.140]  I believe the grand jury didn't meet that day
[01:48:18.140 --> 01:48:25.140]  and the foreman didn't sign that indictment, but the U.S. attorney just stamped it.
[01:48:25.140 --> 01:48:31.140]  Is that a law, is that in statute that the prosecutor gets to have a stamp
[01:48:31.140 --> 01:48:33.140]  of the grand jury's foreman's signature?
[01:48:33.140 --> 01:48:37.140]  Because I tell you what, I would never let anyone make a stamp out of my signature.
[01:48:37.140 --> 01:48:41.140]  And if I found out that anybody had lifted my signature and made a stamp out of it
[01:48:41.140 --> 01:48:45.140]  and was using it, I'd be filing some criminal charges against their butts.
[01:48:45.140 --> 01:48:48.140]  I always put that in my letter to the foreman.
[01:48:48.140 --> 01:48:51.140]  When I send in criminal complaints, I include a letter to the foreman
[01:48:51.140 --> 01:48:55.140]  asking him to initial this letter and send it back to me
[01:48:55.140 --> 01:48:57.140]  so that I'll know he actually got it.
[01:48:57.140 --> 01:48:59.140]  Okay, but is it a statute, is it a law, Randy?
[01:48:59.140 --> 01:49:01.140]  No, not even the law I've ever seen.
[01:49:01.140 --> 01:49:04.140]  Okay, does the foreman, do you think the foreman of these federal grand juries
[01:49:04.140 --> 01:49:06.140]  know that the prosecutor's doing this?
[01:49:06.140 --> 01:49:09.140]  No, that's why I put it in my letter, that I don't want him to sign it.
[01:49:09.140 --> 01:49:13.140]  I want him to initial it because the U.S. attorney has a signature,
[01:49:13.140 --> 01:49:18.140]  has a stamp with your name on it and I want to make sure the U.S. attorney doesn't stamp it.
[01:49:18.140 --> 01:49:22.140]  Well, that sounds like that's totally illegal on its face
[01:49:22.140 --> 01:49:25.140]  for someone to make a stamp out of your signature without your knowledge
[01:49:25.140 --> 01:49:26.140]  and go around using it.
[01:49:26.140 --> 01:49:32.140]  I would say it is, and I want the foreman to know that he's doing that.
[01:49:32.140 --> 01:49:34.140]  Indeed.
[01:49:34.140 --> 01:49:38.140]  As I read the federal rules of criminal procedure,
[01:49:38.140 --> 01:49:42.140]  that there's a process, step one, step two, step three,
[01:49:42.140 --> 01:49:45.140]  and then you get to arraignment and that's where you put your plea in.
[01:49:45.140 --> 01:49:50.140]  Only they lured me down there for initial appearance
[01:49:50.140 --> 01:49:55.140]  and were going to detain me or release me, my own recognizance.
[01:49:55.140 --> 01:49:56.140]  All they had is information.
[01:49:56.140 --> 01:50:01.140]  I didn't have a chance to even read it, what was in the information.
[01:50:01.140 --> 01:50:06.140]  Does that information qualify as an affidavit
[01:50:06.140 --> 01:50:11.140]  in that the person assigned as U.S. attorney did not have firsthand knowledge of anything
[01:50:11.140 --> 01:50:13.140]  or any of the facts in there?
[01:50:13.140 --> 01:50:20.140]  There has to be a criminal affidavit behind the information,
[01:50:20.140 --> 01:50:22.140]  and you have a right to see that.
[01:50:22.140 --> 01:50:24.140]  Right, there isn't.
[01:50:24.140 --> 01:50:26.140]  And there should be an arrest warrant.
[01:50:26.140 --> 01:50:28.140]  I didn't produce that.
[01:50:28.140 --> 01:50:31.140]  And the judge demanded a plea, the initial appearance.
[01:50:31.140 --> 01:50:34.140]  I said I could not make a plea, would not make a plea.
[01:50:34.140 --> 01:50:40.140]  So he entered one for me, and I took exception to it on the record.
[01:50:40.140 --> 01:50:45.140]  Okay, then file against the judge for acting without subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:50:45.140 --> 01:50:49.140]  Isn't that a crime for that judge to put a plea in for me?
[01:50:49.140 --> 01:50:53.140]  No, not for him to put a plea in for you.
[01:50:53.140 --> 01:50:58.140]  For him to act without subject matter jurisdiction, 18 U.S. Code 242.
[01:50:58.140 --> 01:51:02.140]  See, in any criminal case, jurisdiction may not be presumed.
[01:51:02.140 --> 01:51:06.140]  It must be proven on the record, no exceptions.
[01:51:06.140 --> 01:51:10.140]  Yeah, I raised that issue also.
[01:51:10.140 --> 01:51:17.140]  So file charges against the magistrate, or if it was a magistrate or a judge,
[01:51:17.140 --> 01:51:20.140]  and then file against the U.S. attorney as well.
[01:51:20.140 --> 01:51:21.140]  Yes.
[01:51:21.140 --> 01:51:23.140]  No need to make their life easy for them.
[01:51:23.140 --> 01:51:25.140]  But they're just trying to bypass all these rules of procedure.
[01:51:25.140 --> 01:51:27.140]  Absolutely.
[01:51:27.140 --> 01:51:31.140]  File simple information, no affidavit attached, no fact witnesses involved.
[01:51:31.140 --> 01:51:36.140]  Now why come up there prosecution with a bunch of extra work?
[01:51:36.140 --> 01:51:40.140]  Yeah, just a very bogus information.
[01:51:40.140 --> 01:51:47.140]  And then I also want to say that in an indictment you're going to have statute,
[01:51:47.140 --> 01:51:51.140]  regulation, and positive law.
[01:51:51.140 --> 01:52:00.140]  Okay, in the Fed, a criminal complaint must be written in the language of the statute.
[01:52:00.140 --> 01:52:01.140]  Okay.
[01:52:01.140 --> 01:52:03.140]  If it's not, it's not a complaint.
[01:52:03.140 --> 01:52:04.140]  Okay.
[01:52:04.140 --> 01:52:06.140]  It's garbage.
[01:52:06.140 --> 01:52:08.140]  Yeah.
[01:52:08.140 --> 01:52:15.140]  So if they don't, have you put in a Brady motion?
[01:52:15.140 --> 01:52:16.140]  No.
[01:52:16.140 --> 01:52:17.140]  You need to get in.
[01:52:17.140 --> 01:52:22.140]  I wasn't allowed to do anything at that appearance except he wanted to plead.
[01:52:22.140 --> 01:52:27.140]  You make up your motions and take them to the clerk and just file them with the clerk.
[01:52:27.140 --> 01:52:28.140]  Okay.
[01:52:28.140 --> 01:52:32.140]  And I'd file criminal charges against the magistrate for acting without subject matter
[01:52:32.140 --> 01:52:36.140]  jurisdiction, file criminal charges against the U.S. attorney,
[01:52:36.140 --> 01:52:43.140]  claim that there is no criminal accusation against you, that they're acting on their own,
[01:52:43.140 --> 01:52:46.140]  and let them prove it up.
[01:52:46.140 --> 01:52:47.140]  Yeah.
[01:52:47.140 --> 01:52:52.140]  And it does go to the matter of a statute without regulation,
[01:52:52.140 --> 01:52:59.140]  an administrative code without a regulation, and no positive law.
[01:52:59.140 --> 01:53:01.140]  It depends on what they're charging you with.
[01:53:01.140 --> 01:53:03.140]  Okay.
[01:53:03.140 --> 01:53:08.140]  If it's under Title 18, there's a good argument that Title 18 is bogus.
[01:53:08.140 --> 01:53:11.140]  Yeah, Title 26.
[01:53:11.140 --> 01:53:18.140]  If Title 18 is bogus, they can't prosecute Title 23.
[01:53:18.140 --> 01:53:20.140]  Title 23 or 26?
[01:53:20.140 --> 01:53:22.140]  23.
[01:53:22.140 --> 01:53:23.140]  Yeah.
[01:53:23.140 --> 01:53:27.140]  Well, he's not going to get anywhere by making a claim that Title 18 is bogus on his face.
[01:53:27.140 --> 01:53:32.140]  Tony Davis already tried to do that, and even though he has proof of that,
[01:53:32.140 --> 01:53:35.140]  talking about how Title 18 was never ratified,
[01:53:35.140 --> 01:53:38.140]  the courts are just not going to accept that because then they'd have to throw out
[01:53:38.140 --> 01:53:43.140]  every single prosecuted, confirmed convicted case under Title 18
[01:53:43.140 --> 01:53:47.140]  that has ever occurred since the 1940s, and they're not going to do that.
[01:53:47.140 --> 01:53:52.140]  So I wouldn't recommend making that argument.
[01:53:52.140 --> 01:53:58.140]  Anytime you speak in terms of absolutes, anytime you go to those levels,
[01:53:58.140 --> 01:54:00.140]  it's just not going to work.
[01:54:00.140 --> 01:54:02.140]  It's like what happened with Becraft.
[01:54:02.140 --> 01:54:04.140]  It doesn't matter if he's right.
[01:54:04.140 --> 01:54:08.140]  They're not going to accept those arguments because the ramifications are too extreme.
[01:54:08.140 --> 01:54:12.140]  They're not going to unlock the doors of the federal prisons right now
[01:54:12.140 --> 01:54:16.140]  all across the country and unleash every federal prisoner out to the public
[01:54:16.140 --> 01:54:19.140]  because Title 18 is bogus, okay?
[01:54:19.140 --> 01:54:22.140]  We're going to have to come up with a different type of argument.
[01:54:22.140 --> 01:54:27.140]  Well, the only thing about it is, though, whether 18 is bogus or not,
[01:54:27.140 --> 01:54:32.140]  the Constitution does not give policing authority or any of that type of authority
[01:54:32.140 --> 01:54:36.140]  to the federal government over the people of the several states.
[01:54:36.140 --> 01:54:40.140]  So irregardless of what Congress tried to do with Title 18,
[01:54:40.140 --> 01:54:42.140]  valid or not, it never applied to us anyway.
[01:54:42.140 --> 01:54:46.140]  That's a much better argument.
[01:54:46.140 --> 01:54:54.140]  So the thing is, again, we are where we are and it's our fault, okay?
[01:54:54.140 --> 01:54:57.140]  The babysitter didn't pay any attention to the petulant child
[01:54:57.140 --> 01:55:03.140]  and let them run around the house too long and break too many things.
[01:55:03.140 --> 01:55:13.140]  And is the dual citizenship also an issue that they entertain or listen to?
[01:55:13.140 --> 01:55:16.140]  Are you talking about a United States citizen versus a state citizen?
[01:55:16.140 --> 01:55:19.140]  Well, yes, or continental United States.
[01:55:19.140 --> 01:55:23.140]  I got case law after case law after case law that says there is no such thing
[01:55:23.140 --> 01:55:26.140]  as a United States citizen.
[01:55:26.140 --> 01:55:32.140]  There is a citizen of the United States created by the 14th Amendment, right?
[01:55:32.140 --> 01:55:39.140]  But the United States itself has no citizens according to this court case, okay?
[01:55:39.140 --> 01:55:41.140]  Okay, yeah.
[01:55:41.140 --> 01:55:46.140]  And really all it is is the freed slaves are the ones that became citizens
[01:55:46.140 --> 01:55:51.140]  of the United States for the purpose of civil rights, okay?
[01:55:51.140 --> 01:55:55.140]  Because the people of the states do not have civil rights.
[01:55:55.140 --> 01:55:57.140]  We have unalienable rights.
[01:55:57.140 --> 01:56:00.140]  Yeah, I don't even like to deal with civil rights at all
[01:56:00.140 --> 01:56:04.140]  because that means that that indicates that that's some right
[01:56:04.140 --> 01:56:06.140]  that the government gave me that they could take away.
[01:56:06.140 --> 01:56:08.140]  I don't deal with civil rights.
[01:56:08.140 --> 01:56:10.140]  However, Mike Mears does.
[01:56:10.140 --> 01:56:14.140]  It's an effective remedy for his method because he goes after the banks
[01:56:14.140 --> 01:56:18.140]  and the third-party debt collectors for civil rights violations.
[01:56:18.140 --> 01:56:21.140]  So in that situation, you know, it works out pretty well.
[01:56:21.140 --> 01:56:23.140]  But when you're dealing with the government,
[01:56:23.140 --> 01:56:25.140]  I don't really like to deal with civil rights.
[01:56:25.140 --> 01:56:28.140]  I've got unalienable rights.
[01:56:28.140 --> 01:56:33.140]  I've tried for a long time to get them to answer Title IV, Section 72,
[01:56:33.140 --> 01:56:38.140]  which restricts them to the District of Columbia and their legislation
[01:56:38.140 --> 01:56:41.140]  and their code-making and statutes and so forth, and they'll never answer.
[01:56:41.140 --> 01:56:43.140]  They won't answer.
[01:56:43.140 --> 01:56:45.140]  Well, that's not strictly true.
[01:56:45.140 --> 01:56:52.140]  The Congress does have law-making authority, okay, in multiple locations,
[01:56:52.140 --> 01:56:54.140]  not just the District of Columbia.
[01:56:54.140 --> 01:57:00.140]  They have law-making authority over any place where they have plenary authority,
[01:57:00.140 --> 01:57:05.140]  which includes D.C., enclaves, possessions, and territories.
[01:57:05.140 --> 01:57:10.140]  What it does not include is anything not ceded to the federal government
[01:57:10.140 --> 01:57:13.140]  within the borders of the several states.
[01:57:13.140 --> 01:57:14.140]  Right.
[01:57:14.140 --> 01:57:18.140]  And that's all I wanted to know is how did they get the authority to make these laws
[01:57:18.140 --> 01:57:23.140]  for the areas outside of D.C. and these possessions?
[01:57:23.140 --> 01:57:24.140]  They didn't.
[01:57:24.140 --> 01:57:28.140]  The problem is everybody is misreading the statute.
[01:57:28.140 --> 01:57:32.140]  Go read the law and look at the definitions of the terms.
[01:57:32.140 --> 01:57:35.140]  Always look at the definitions.
[01:57:35.140 --> 01:57:41.140]  A United States citizen slash a state of the United States does not mean
[01:57:41.140 --> 01:57:45.140]  any of the several states.
[01:57:45.140 --> 01:57:46.140]  Okay?
[01:57:46.140 --> 01:57:47.140]  Yes.
[01:57:47.140 --> 01:57:52.140]  We proved that in the statutes dealing with the SCC.
[01:57:52.140 --> 01:57:56.140]  The state does not mean what they are trying to tell you it means
[01:57:56.140 --> 01:58:00.140]  according to the law.
[01:58:00.140 --> 01:58:01.140]  Great.
[01:58:01.140 --> 01:58:06.140]  Okay, listen, callers, Eric, Gail, Todd, I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to get to you.
[01:58:06.140 --> 01:58:13.140]  We've got four hours tomorrow night, so folks, please call back in tomorrow night
[01:58:13.140 --> 01:58:17.140]  and we will take your comments and questions.
[01:58:17.140 --> 01:58:19.140]  This is the rule of law here.
[01:58:19.140 --> 01:58:22.140]  We've got Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, I'm Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:22.140 --> 01:58:23.140]  Thanks for listening, folks.
[01:58:23.140 --> 01:58:25.140]  Thanks for all your wonderful questions.
[01:58:25.140 --> 01:58:27.140]  And we'll speak with you tomorrow night.
[01:58:27.140 --> 01:58:28.140]  God bless.
[01:58:28.140 --> 01:58:50.140]  I'm like a walking crazy, don't you watch my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:58:50.140 --> 01:59:13.140]  I'm like a stepping crazy, don't you watch my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:13.140 --> 01:59:41.140]  I'm like a stepping crazy, don't you watch my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:41.140 --> 02:00:00.140]  I'm like a stepping crazy, don't you watch my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.