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[00:00.000 --> 00:04.680]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.680 --> 00:10.400]  San Francisco police chief George Gaston says Arizona's draconian new immigration bill will
[00:10.400 --> 00:15.960]  deter victims and witnesses of violent crime from coming forward for fear of being arrested
[00:15.960 --> 00:17.520]  as illegal immigrants.
[00:17.520 --> 00:24.120]  Saying no Wall Street executive is quote too big for jail, 62 Congress members asked the
[00:24.120 --> 00:28.960]  Justice Department Wednesday to investigate whether Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street
[00:28.960 --> 00:34.080]  firms committed fraud in the lead up to the subprime mortgage meltdown.
[00:34.080 --> 00:41.000]  The progressive change campaign committee and moveon.org have collected 140,000 signatures
[00:41.000 --> 00:43.920]  supporting the request.
[00:43.920 --> 00:51.080]  A Washington Post ABC news poll released Wednesday shows fewer than one third of voters are inclined
[00:51.080 --> 00:54.760]  to vote for their current representative regardless of party.
[00:54.760 --> 00:59.160]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:59.160 --> 01:04.040]  A massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is even worse than believed and officials
[01:04.040 --> 01:09.600]  are offering a military response to try to avert a monumental environmental disaster along
[01:09.600 --> 01:12.760]  the ecologically fragile US coastline.
[01:12.760 --> 01:17.320]  But the slick might be closer to shore than previously known and could have oil washing
[01:17.320 --> 01:19.320]  up on shore by Friday.
[01:19.320 --> 01:24.880]  Late Wednesday, crews began an experiment to burn off parts of the slick, crews turned
[01:24.880 --> 01:30.360]  to the idea after failing to stop the leak at the spot where a deep water platform exploded
[01:30.360 --> 01:33.080]  and sank April 20th.
[01:33.080 --> 01:35.720]  Eleven workers were missing and presumed dead.
[01:35.720 --> 01:41.880]  An estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day was leaking into the Gulf creating a slick
[01:41.880 --> 01:48.000]  100 miles long and 45 miles wide.
[01:48.000 --> 01:52.920]  Newspaper journalist Wayne Madsen has learned from US intelligence sources a super classified
[01:52.920 --> 01:58.800]  network with only some 70 terminals in select US government locations handled command and
[01:58.800 --> 02:04.440]  control activities that permitted the 9-11 terrorist attacks to be successful.
[02:04.440 --> 02:09.680]  The quote above top secret network bears the acronym PDAS.
[02:09.680 --> 02:15.920]  On 9-11, PDAS was used to convey information from the Air Force Chief of Staff to the White
[02:15.920 --> 02:21.320]  House and other agencies that the Air Force had downed a target over Pennsylvania believed
[02:21.320 --> 02:24.320]  to be United Flight 93.
[02:24.320 --> 02:29.400]  Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta claimed Dick Cheney was present at the Presidential
[02:29.400 --> 02:36.200]  Emergency Operations Center at the White House at 9.25 a.m. on 9-11 before American Airlines
[02:36.200 --> 02:39.880]  Flight 77 allegedly struck the Pentagon.
[02:39.880 --> 02:44.520]  Mineta told the 9-11 Commission, quote, during the time that the airplane was coming into
[02:44.520 --> 02:49.920]  the Pentagon, the young man said to the Vice President, do the orders still stand?
[02:49.920 --> 02:53.720]  And the Vice President said, quote, of course the orders still stand.
[02:53.720 --> 02:55.720]  Have you heard anything to the contrary?
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[04:53.320 --> 05:00.320]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[05:00.320 --> 05:08.320]  This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
[05:08.320 --> 05:14.320]  The Rule of Law Radio Show on Rule of Law.
[05:14.320 --> 05:19.320]  I think that's our guest on the line having some car trouble here.
[05:19.320 --> 05:22.320]  We're going to bring up our guest in just a moment, but in the meantime,
[05:22.320 --> 05:28.320]  this is the Rule of Law Radio Show on Rule of Law Radio Network.
[05:28.320 --> 05:33.320]  Once again, folks, it's becoming a daily issue now.
[05:33.320 --> 05:35.320]  There's a lot of confusion out there.
[05:35.320 --> 05:42.320]  This is a radio show, and this is a radio show on Rule of Law Radio Network.
[05:42.320 --> 05:44.320]  It is an Internet stream.
[05:44.320 --> 05:51.320]  It is an Internet-based radio network streaming out live to the world
[05:51.320 --> 05:58.320]  over the Internet, and we do have 20 AM and FM radio station affiliates
[05:58.320 --> 06:02.320]  that rebroadcast the network.
[06:02.320 --> 06:06.320]  Okay, and so this is a radio show again.
[06:06.320 --> 06:10.320]  It's not a conference call, and callers who would like to call in
[06:10.320 --> 06:16.320]  and talk on the air is 512-646-1984.
[06:16.320 --> 06:19.320]  We would appreciate people, as many people as possible,
[06:19.320 --> 06:22.320]  even if you are in a city that has an affiliate,
[06:22.320 --> 06:25.320]  where if you're listening in Austin on 90.1
[06:25.320 --> 06:28.320]  or in any of the other various cities that carry us on AM or FM,
[06:28.320 --> 06:30.320]  if you could please hit up your computer
[06:30.320 --> 06:35.320]  and pull the stream off of ruleoflawradio.com anyway
[06:35.320 --> 06:38.320]  so that we can get our numbers up on Shoutcast
[06:38.320 --> 06:41.320]  so we can get a better idea of how many listeners we have out there.
[06:41.320 --> 06:43.320]  That would be very much appreciated.
[06:43.320 --> 06:47.320]  If you don't have a computer and you are not in an area
[06:47.320 --> 06:50.320]  where you can hear us on the AM or FM,
[06:50.320 --> 06:53.320]  or if you're driving out of the range of one of the AM or FM,
[06:53.320 --> 07:01.320]  you can listen on the listener line at 512-485-9010.
[07:01.320 --> 07:05.320]  So that's a little bit of information about our radio network,
[07:05.320 --> 07:08.320]  our radio station, our radio show,
[07:08.320 --> 07:11.320]  and the lines, the call-in lines.
[07:11.320 --> 07:13.320]  Okay, so without further ado,
[07:13.320 --> 07:18.320]  we are going now to our guest who is our newest sponsor,
[07:18.320 --> 07:23.320]  Chad Tyson from Capital Coin and Boolean right here in Austin.
[07:23.320 --> 07:25.320]  Chad, thank you for joining us tonight.
[07:25.320 --> 07:28.320]  Well, thank you, Debra. Thanks for having me on tonight.
[07:28.320 --> 07:29.320]  We really appreciate it.
[07:29.320 --> 07:31.320]  Chad is our newest sponsor.
[07:31.320 --> 07:36.320]  Apparently some of our listeners recommended us to him for advertising
[07:36.320 --> 07:39.320]  because he was looking for an outlet to get the word out.
[07:39.320 --> 07:41.320]  And Chad, we're so happy to have you on board here.
[07:41.320 --> 07:44.320]  And I met Chad a couple of days ago.
[07:44.320 --> 07:50.320]  I went up to his place at 5448 Burnett Road Suite 3.
[07:50.320 --> 07:53.320]  And Chad, you've got some really good deals there.
[07:53.320 --> 08:00.320]  A lot of Boolean and coin dealers have a considerable markup on their products,
[08:00.320 --> 08:02.320]  but you've got very reasonable rates.
[08:02.320 --> 08:06.320]  Why don't you tell us a little bit about your business and how you got into this?
[08:06.320 --> 08:08.320]  Well, yeah, Debra.
[08:08.320 --> 08:11.320]  To go off what you just said, you know, we're trying to be fair.
[08:11.320 --> 08:13.320]  We're not trying to get rich off anybody.
[08:13.320 --> 08:17.320]  We're just trying to, you know, kind of basically spread the wealth.
[08:17.320 --> 08:20.320]  The way we got into this was three and a half years ago.
[08:20.320 --> 08:24.320]  We were in the antique business, living in Fredericksburg, Texas.
[08:24.320 --> 08:28.320]  And I had opened a shop in downtown Fredericksburg.
[08:28.320 --> 08:31.320]  Two weeks after we opened the shop, Lehman Brothers crashed,
[08:31.320 --> 08:33.320]  and the whole thing went down.
[08:33.320 --> 08:37.320]  That taught me a valuable lesson about money.
[08:37.320 --> 08:42.320]  So I basically, to make a long story short, started selling off my coin collection,
[08:42.320 --> 08:47.320]  and, you know, three and a half years later, here we are in the business.
[08:47.320 --> 08:52.320]  So, I mean, yeah, that's the history of it.
[08:52.320 --> 08:54.320]  Now, your shop is relatively new.
[08:54.320 --> 08:59.320]  Did you just get to Austin, like, within the last year or so?
[08:59.320 --> 09:04.320]  Yeah, actually, we opened the shop last October, my wife and I, Becky.
[09:04.320 --> 09:10.320]  We opened it last October, as you said, on Burnett, 5448 Burnett.
[09:10.320 --> 09:14.320]  So, yeah, we're basically kind of new guys here in town.
[09:14.320 --> 09:15.320]  That's great.
[09:15.320 --> 09:19.320]  So give us a little bit of an idea about what people can expect,
[09:19.320 --> 09:23.320]  what kind of deals can they get, what kind of products do you have,
[09:23.320 --> 09:27.320]  what kind of metals products do you have, and what services do you offer?
[09:27.320 --> 09:28.320]  Okay.
[09:28.320 --> 09:31.320]  Well, first off, what kind of deals they can expect to get are good ones.
[09:31.320 --> 09:33.320]  As I told you earlier, we're not trying to get rich.
[09:33.320 --> 09:37.320]  We're trying to just make sure that everybody that wants to can protect
[09:37.320 --> 09:42.320]  and ensure their personal wealth, their dollars, with any precious metals,
[09:42.320 --> 09:46.320]  if that's, you know, if that's an investment tool that they're looking into.
[09:46.320 --> 09:52.320]  And we offer silver, bullion, anywhere from 100-ounce bars
[09:52.320 --> 09:55.320]  down to 1-ounce different types of rounds.
[09:55.320 --> 09:57.320]  And we offer gold, same thing.
[09:57.320 --> 10:00.320]  You can get large amounts if you want, or you can come in and get down.
[10:00.320 --> 10:03.320]  Below is 5-gram bars.
[10:03.320 --> 10:05.320]  We also offer platinum and palladium
[10:05.320 --> 10:10.320]  to people who are looking for that type of investment.
[10:10.320 --> 10:11.320]  That's fantastic.
[10:11.320 --> 10:13.320]  Yeah.
[10:13.320 --> 10:16.320]  So you got into the antique business,
[10:16.320 --> 10:20.320]  and then the big Lehman Brothers fiasco happened,
[10:20.320 --> 10:22.320]  and you ended up having to sell some of your coins.
[10:22.320 --> 10:28.320]  So you started realizing the value of metals as true money.
[10:28.320 --> 10:29.320]  Is that correct?
[10:29.320 --> 10:31.320]  Yeah, well, I mean, I realized it before that.
[10:31.320 --> 10:33.320]  My dad actually taught me when I was a kid
[10:33.320 --> 10:38.320]  about the true value of precious metals being silver and gold mostly.
[10:38.320 --> 10:45.320]  But yeah, but that whole Lehman Brothers having to close the antique business
[10:45.320 --> 10:47.320]  and everything just kind of sealed the deal.
[10:47.320 --> 10:51.320]  I didn't know how much I believed my dad, but after that happened, I believed him.
[10:51.320 --> 10:52.320]  Right.
[10:52.320 --> 10:57.320]  Well, paper money isn't real money, as we've discussed on this show before.
[10:57.320 --> 10:58.320]  Oh, for sure.
[10:58.320 --> 11:04.320]  And the dollar is just, the inflation is getting more and more outrageous every day.
[11:04.320 --> 11:08.320]  And to give folks an idea of where our dollar is headed,
[11:08.320 --> 11:11.320]  and as our good friend Bill Veith has always discussed,
[11:11.320 --> 11:13.320]  it happens to every fiat currency.
[11:13.320 --> 11:17.320]  The fate of every fiat currency is the same.
[11:17.320 --> 11:19.320]  It will eventually crash.
[11:19.320 --> 11:23.320]  Purchasing power will eventually go to just about nil,
[11:23.320 --> 11:28.320]  and the paper currency will eventually become worth less
[11:28.320 --> 11:32.320]  than the actual physical paper and ink that it's printed on.
[11:32.320 --> 11:35.320]  And one of the items that Chad has,
[11:35.320 --> 11:39.320]  one of the few times I wish I had a webcam here for the listeners to see,
[11:39.320 --> 11:41.320]  I would hold this up for folks.
[11:41.320 --> 11:48.320]  One of the items that Chad has at his coin shop is a reserve note
[11:48.320 --> 11:51.320]  from the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe.
[11:51.320 --> 11:57.320]  And it's a note that says a hundred trillion dollars on it.
[11:57.320 --> 11:58.320]  Yeah, that's correct.
[11:58.320 --> 12:00.320]  A hundred trillion dollars.
[12:00.320 --> 12:02.320]  So I'm a trillionaire now in Zimbabwe.
[12:02.320 --> 12:03.320]  You are a trillionaire.
[12:03.320 --> 12:05.320]  It's about 13 cents here.
[12:05.320 --> 12:07.320]  But that's funny because that's actually one of my greatest sellers
[12:07.320 --> 12:11.320]  is because I believe people are starting to wake up to, you know, fiat currency.
[12:11.320 --> 12:15.320]  And I mean, people love that, so they can, you know,
[12:15.320 --> 12:18.320]  it's kind of like an educational tool to show their first and everything.
[12:18.320 --> 12:20.320]  So yeah, that's a great seller.
[12:20.320 --> 12:21.320]  Yeah, absolutely.
[12:21.320 --> 12:23.320]  I was hearing a story.
[12:23.320 --> 12:26.320]  We have a financial analyst that's a guest sometimes.
[12:26.320 --> 12:31.320]  And he was telling a story from a news item from Zimbabwe
[12:31.320 --> 12:35.320]  where there was a woman who went to the market to buy some food.
[12:35.320 --> 12:38.320]  And, you know, the place was packed, you know,
[12:38.320 --> 12:43.320]  and everybody's got these giant bags and, you know, carts full of paper currency.
[12:43.320 --> 12:47.320]  And so she left hers outside so she could go in and see what was available
[12:47.320 --> 12:50.320]  and see what she wanted to get because apparently the prices,
[12:50.320 --> 12:53.320]  I mean, they are changing basically every five minutes.
[12:53.320 --> 12:56.320]  The rate of inflation is so dramatic over there.
[12:56.320 --> 12:58.320]  And so when she figured out what she wanted,
[12:58.320 --> 13:03.320]  she went back outside to get the money or to get the currency rather.
[13:03.320 --> 13:05.320]  And guess what was stolen?
[13:05.320 --> 13:06.320]  It wasn't the paper.
[13:06.320 --> 13:07.320]  It was the wheelbarrow.
[13:07.320 --> 13:08.320]  The wheelbarrow.
[13:08.320 --> 13:11.320]  Yeah, somebody stole the wheelbarrow because, you know,
[13:11.320 --> 13:13.320]  the paper currency was worthless.
[13:13.320 --> 13:15.320]  Yeah, probably dumped off paper and took the wheelbarrow.
[13:15.320 --> 13:18.320]  Yeah, they dumped all the paper on the ground and just took the wheelbarrow.
[13:18.320 --> 13:19.320]  I can definitely believe that.
[13:19.320 --> 13:22.320]  You know, the wheelbarrow has uses.
[13:22.320 --> 13:23.320]  Absolutely.
[13:23.320 --> 13:26.320]  So metals is really where it's at, commodities, hard commodities,
[13:26.320 --> 13:32.320]  taking physical possession of your coins and your bullion
[13:32.320 --> 13:37.320]  instead of investing in paper profits is really where it's at.
[13:37.320 --> 13:42.320]  A lot of forecasters are predicting that the spot prices of metals
[13:42.320 --> 13:45.320]  are going to go parabolic within the next couple of years.
[13:45.320 --> 13:51.320]  Silver could go upwards anywhere from $300 to $800 an ounce.
[13:51.320 --> 13:53.320]  Right now it's at $18.
[13:53.320 --> 13:57.320]  And it's not going to be much longer before they're not going to be able
[13:57.320 --> 14:00.320]  to manipulate the spot prices of metals anymore because,
[14:00.320 --> 14:04.320]  especially with silver, silver is a raw material.
[14:04.320 --> 14:10.320]  Half over half the silver that is mined, most of it actually, is used in industry.
[14:10.320 --> 14:15.320]  It's used up and it's not cost effective to recover it.
[14:15.320 --> 14:18.320]  It's used in the computer industry and in circuit boards.
[14:18.320 --> 14:20.320]  It's used in the medical industry.
[14:20.320 --> 14:21.320]  It's used in the textile industry.
[14:21.320 --> 14:25.320]  They're sewing silver threads into clothes now for hospital workers
[14:25.320 --> 14:28.320]  because of the antibacterial properties of silver.
[14:28.320 --> 14:31.320]  And so silver is a raw material.
[14:31.320 --> 14:36.320]  It's not so much like gold where it's a store hold of wealth.
[14:36.320 --> 14:42.320]  And eventually the laws of supply and demand are going to take over
[14:42.320 --> 14:45.320]  and it's not going to be much longer before that happens.
[14:45.320 --> 14:49.320]  And then the powers that be are not going to be able to control the spot prices
[14:49.320 --> 14:52.320]  of metals anymore because these futures contracts,
[14:52.320 --> 14:56.320]  which is what they use to formulate the spot price,
[14:56.320 --> 15:00.320]  it's not going to matter anymore because the miners are going to say,
[15:00.320 --> 15:03.320]  look, if you guys want more silver, you're going to have to pay more
[15:03.320 --> 15:07.320]  because we need more because we have to dig deeper in all these things.
[15:07.320 --> 15:12.320]  So I highly recommend folks to get into metals of some sort
[15:12.320 --> 15:16.320]  as soon as possible before the prices skyrocket
[15:16.320 --> 15:21.320]  and Chad Tyson's place is the best place to do it in town.
[15:21.320 --> 15:23.320]  And Chad, you also ship worldwide.
[15:23.320 --> 15:24.320]  Is that correct?
[15:24.320 --> 15:26.320]  Well, we do ship worldwide.
[15:26.320 --> 15:30.320]  I prefer to ship nationwide, but yeah, we do ship worldwide.
[15:30.320 --> 15:35.320]  There's certain things that I'm not able to ship out of the country, but yeah.
[15:35.320 --> 15:36.320]  I have to answer your question.
[15:36.320 --> 15:38.320]  We do ship worldwide, but as I said,
[15:38.320 --> 15:42.320]  I'm trying to get most attention to our local people here
[15:42.320 --> 15:45.320]  and people of our fine nation, you know.
[15:45.320 --> 15:46.320]  Absolutely.
[15:46.320 --> 15:49.320]  So folks in Austin, go to Capital Coin and Boolean.
[15:49.320 --> 15:53.320]  And for other listeners who are listening across the country,
[15:53.320 --> 16:00.320]  you can call 512-646-6440 and order from Chad.
[16:00.320 --> 16:01.320]  Excellent.
[16:01.320 --> 16:03.320]  Well, Debra, I'm so glad that you gave me the opportunity
[16:03.320 --> 16:05.320]  to help you all station out and your show.
[16:05.320 --> 16:10.320]  And just I love the deal and all your listeners and all the great people out there.
[16:10.320 --> 16:11.320]  Absolutely.
[16:11.320 --> 16:13.320]  Thank you so much for coming on the air.
[16:13.320 --> 16:16.320]  Randy, do you have any comments for Chad?
[16:16.320 --> 16:18.320]  Well, I'm glad he's around.
[16:18.320 --> 16:19.320]  I have a place to go.
[16:19.320 --> 16:20.320]  Yes, you do, Randy.
[16:20.320 --> 16:22.320]  Yes, you do.
[16:22.320 --> 16:23.320]  Absolutely.
[16:23.320 --> 16:26.320]  It's good to have some place local where he can just go pick some stuff up
[16:26.320 --> 16:29.320]  instead of having to order online, especially.
[16:29.320 --> 16:30.320]  Yeah, that is a great thing.
[16:30.320 --> 16:31.320]  There's no wait.
[16:31.320 --> 16:32.320]  You come in.
[16:32.320 --> 16:34.320]  You leave with what you want.
[16:34.320 --> 16:37.320]  And folks, you can sell your jewelry to Chad as well
[16:37.320 --> 16:42.320]  if you have old jewelry that you want to trade in for some cash.
[16:42.320 --> 16:43.320]  All right, Chad.
[16:43.320 --> 16:45.320]  Well, thanks for joining us tonight.
[16:45.320 --> 16:46.320]  Thank you so much.
[16:46.320 --> 16:47.320]  Okay.
[16:47.320 --> 16:50.320]  We'll be right back on the other side with Eddie and Randy.
[16:50.320 --> 16:53.320]  This is the rule of law.
[17:20.320 --> 17:23.320]  We offer daily specials on coins and bullion.
[17:23.320 --> 17:27.320]  We're located at 5448 Burnett Road, Suite 3,
[17:27.320 --> 17:30.320]  and we're open Monday through Friday 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
[17:30.320 --> 17:33.320]  Saturdays to 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
[17:33.320 --> 17:36.320]  You are welcome to stop in our shop during regular business hours
[17:36.320 --> 17:41.320]  or call 512-646-6440 with any questions.
[17:41.320 --> 17:45.320]  Ask for Chad and say you heard about us on Rule of Law.
[17:45.320 --> 17:50.320]  Radio or 90.1 FM and get a special discount.
[17:50.320 --> 17:56.320]  That's capital coin and bullion, 512-646-6440.
[17:56.320 --> 18:25.320]  512-646-6440.
[18:25.320 --> 18:29.320]  All right, we asked the questions, and look what we get.
[18:29.320 --> 18:30.320]  They're oath.
[18:30.320 --> 18:32.320]  They're not abiding.
[18:32.320 --> 18:34.320]  They don't have the answers.
[18:34.320 --> 18:38.320]  They try to put us on the slippery, slidey slope of tyranny,
[18:38.320 --> 18:40.320]  and we're not putting up with it.
[18:40.320 --> 18:43.320]  And we've got Eddie Craig and Randy tonight.
[18:43.320 --> 18:48.320]  And, Eddie, you wanted to talk about what, first off, what is a law,
[18:48.320 --> 18:51.320]  and you're going to get into the enacting clause.
[18:51.320 --> 18:52.320]  Yes.
[18:52.320 --> 18:57.320]  Okay, let's set the stage here for a minute.
[18:57.320 --> 19:00.320]  First off, what is the people's law?
[19:00.320 --> 19:05.320]  The people's law is the various constitutions, the one for their state
[19:05.320 --> 19:08.320]  and the one for the federal as we know it, okay?
[19:08.320 --> 19:10.320]  That's the people's law.
[19:10.320 --> 19:14.320]  It is the basis of all law enacted by all legislature,
[19:14.320 --> 19:19.320]  at least as far as saying what kind of law they can and cannot make.
[19:19.320 --> 19:25.320]  Now, this is Black's Law 6th edition definition of law.
[19:25.320 --> 19:29.320]  That which is laid down, ordained, or established,
[19:29.320 --> 19:35.320]  a rule or method according to which phenomena or actions co-exist
[19:35.320 --> 19:37.320]  or follow each other.
[19:37.320 --> 19:41.320]  Law, in its generic sense, is a body of rules of action or conduct
[19:41.320 --> 19:46.320]  prescribed by controlling authority and having binding legal force.
[19:46.320 --> 19:50.320]  That which must be obeyed and followed by citizens
[19:50.320 --> 19:54.320]  subject to sanctions or legal consequences is a law.
[19:54.320 --> 19:59.320]  Law is a solemn expression of the will of the supreme power of the state.
[19:59.320 --> 20:04.320]  Okay, I have a very big problem with the last part of that definition.
[20:04.320 --> 20:07.320]  The will of the supreme power of the state.
[20:07.320 --> 20:09.320]  I'm sorry.
[20:09.320 --> 20:13.320]  Let's see, Article 1, Section 2, Texas Constitution,
[20:13.320 --> 20:17.320]  that the people are the superior political power holders.
[20:17.320 --> 20:22.320]  We are the supreme power, not the state, because the state exists because of us.
[20:22.320 --> 20:25.320]  The state is not the supreme power.
[20:25.320 --> 20:28.320]  We are the supreme power of the state.
[20:28.320 --> 20:29.320]  That's correct.
[20:29.320 --> 20:31.320]  Not the state.
[20:31.320 --> 20:32.320]  All right.
[20:32.320 --> 20:33.320]  So that's correct.
[20:33.320 --> 20:40.320]  Now, the law of a state is to be found in its statutory and constitutional enactments
[20:40.320 --> 20:46.320]  as interpreted by its courts and in absence of statute law in rulings of its courts.
[20:46.320 --> 20:48.320]  Okay?
[20:48.320 --> 20:53.320]  Word law generally contemplates both statutory and case law.
[20:53.320 --> 20:55.320]  Well, we got other issues with that.
[20:55.320 --> 20:59.320]  But that's the basic definition of a law.
[20:59.320 --> 21:05.320]  Now, Texas, the people of Texas had the foresight to put something else into our
[21:05.320 --> 21:11.320]  Constitution telling our public servants how we required them to do business
[21:11.320 --> 21:15.320]  and how we required them to conduct the people's business.
[21:15.320 --> 21:21.320]  Now, we all know that you can't turn any direction without somebody telling you
[21:21.320 --> 21:24.320]  you're violating a law these days.
[21:24.320 --> 21:25.320]  You've got state law.
[21:25.320 --> 21:27.320]  You've got county ordinance.
[21:27.320 --> 21:29.320]  You've got city ordinance.
[21:29.320 --> 21:36.320]  You've got all these things that are identified by the powers that be as a law.
[21:36.320 --> 21:44.320]  However, the people obviously saw this coming because we made a rule for it.
[21:44.320 --> 21:49.320]  And guess what's not happening in Texas and most likely virtually every other
[21:49.320 --> 21:51.320]  state of the union?
[21:51.320 --> 21:56.320]  The people's rules, once again, are not being followed by the public servants.
[21:56.320 --> 22:02.320]  Case in point, if you look in the Texas Constitution, Article 3, Section 29,
[22:02.320 --> 22:07.320]  it reads thusly, enacting clause of laws.
[22:07.320 --> 22:13.320]  The enacting clause of all laws shall be, be it enacted by the legislature of
[22:13.320 --> 22:15.320]  the state of Texas.
[22:15.320 --> 22:20.320]  So let me ask you a question, public servants that have your ears on out there.
[22:20.320 --> 22:26.320]  By what authority do you enact an ordinance, whether it be county or municipal,
[22:26.320 --> 22:30.320]  and have the audacity to call it law?
[22:30.320 --> 22:35.320]  Obviously, your ordinances are not enacted by the legislature.
[22:35.320 --> 22:40.320]  This enacting clause says in order for it to be called a law, this enacting
[22:40.320 --> 22:44.320]  clause must appear on the face of the law.
[22:44.320 --> 22:50.320]  The other problem this presents, of course, is that absent the passing of the
[22:50.320 --> 22:54.320]  legislature, no one else in Texas has the authority to create law.
[22:54.320 --> 22:59.320]  And nowhere in the Constitution did we give the legislature delegatable
[22:59.320 --> 23:04.320]  authority for anyone else to create law.
[23:04.320 --> 23:09.320]  That's just like what Congress was never given to delegate money printing power
[23:09.320 --> 23:10.320]  to the Fed.
[23:10.320 --> 23:12.320]  We didn't give them that authority.
[23:12.320 --> 23:14.320]  It was usurped.
[23:14.320 --> 23:18.320]  Well, that's exactly what's going on when a city or a county tells you you're
[23:18.320 --> 23:20.320]  violating an ordinance.
[23:20.320 --> 23:22.320]  Well, I'm sorry.
[23:22.320 --> 23:27.320]  You cannot violate an ordinance because in order for you to be able to violate
[23:27.320 --> 23:30.320]  it, it must be a law.
[23:30.320 --> 23:34.320]  This says it cannot possibly be a law.
[23:34.320 --> 23:43.320]  Now, you've all heard me say many, many times that municipalities' ordinances
[23:43.320 --> 23:51.320]  and county ordinances can only have legal authority over those employed by
[23:51.320 --> 23:56.320]  that county or by that municipality, and this is their rules that those
[23:56.320 --> 23:58.320]  employees must abide by.
[23:58.320 --> 24:00.320]  That's what their ordinances are.
[24:00.320 --> 24:05.320]  This section of the Constitution clarifies that better than any other.
[24:05.320 --> 24:08.320]  It cannot be law.
[24:08.320 --> 24:13.320]  And if it is not law, it is not binding upon the people.
[24:13.320 --> 24:17.320]  It can't be binding upon the people.
[24:17.320 --> 24:25.320]  So let's take one more look at the red light camera tickets under that type of
[24:25.320 --> 24:27.320]  situation.
[24:27.320 --> 24:32.320]  They're all enacted through the basis of city ordinance.
[24:32.320 --> 24:34.320]  There's a state law behind them.
[24:34.320 --> 24:36.320]  That's true.
[24:36.320 --> 24:38.320]  But the state's not putting them in place.
[24:38.320 --> 24:40.320]  The municipalities are.
[24:40.320 --> 24:45.320]  It's a civil offense which you go before a municipal administrative court to
[24:45.320 --> 24:47.320]  answer to.
[24:47.320 --> 24:52.320]  So it's controlled and operated by the municipality.
[24:52.320 --> 24:56.320]  So it can't possibly be law, folks.
[24:56.320 --> 24:58.320]  It can't be law.
[24:58.320 --> 25:01.320]  It has no enacting clause.
[25:01.320 --> 25:05.320]  It is not passed by the legislature.
[25:05.320 --> 25:11.320]  It's without force, effect, and authority of any kind.
[25:11.320 --> 25:14.320]  Now, Randy's got a few things he likes to argue about this, but I think I
[25:14.320 --> 25:17.320]  finally swung him around to seeing my side of it, and I think he likes the
[25:17.320 --> 25:20.320]  argument, but I want him to say that.
[25:20.320 --> 25:21.320]  All right, all right.
[25:21.320 --> 25:23.320]  I like the argument.
[25:23.320 --> 25:28.320]  I like the argument because when we go after them on the Texas
[25:28.320 --> 25:35.320]  transportation code and they try to dance around that, if we get them
[25:35.320 --> 25:40.320]  hammered on the transportation code, what they're going to do is just codify
[25:40.320 --> 25:42.320]  their own code.
[25:42.320 --> 25:45.320]  I know in Dallas, if you get a ticket, you get charged under the municipal
[25:45.320 --> 25:48.320]  code, not the transportation code.
[25:48.320 --> 25:56.320]  So I always like to be a step ahead, and once we demonstrate that while the
[25:56.320 --> 26:00.320]  city of Austin may have authority to enforce transportation code, the
[26:00.320 --> 26:02.320]  officers don't.
[26:02.320 --> 26:06.320]  And even if they did, they can't enforce it against us, so then the city is
[26:06.320 --> 26:12.320]  going to get real busy and write a whole bunch of ordinances where we're
[26:12.320 --> 26:18.320]  ready for those to, because we'll be able to show they don't have authority
[26:18.320 --> 26:22.320]  to write those ordinances.
[26:22.320 --> 26:26.320]  It's going to be fun.
[26:26.320 --> 26:28.320]  So we have a new tool in the bag, folks.
[26:28.320 --> 26:31.320]  Let's try to make the most of it.
[26:31.320 --> 26:35.320]  Now, Randy, there was something you were talking about wanting to present.
[26:35.320 --> 26:41.320]  Well, it's just I was talking about, you know, I've been thinking about one
[26:41.320 --> 26:46.320]  primary problem that we keep running into.
[26:46.320 --> 26:51.320]  Eddie and I did a show the other night with Pastor Massad, and he told about
[26:51.320 --> 26:55.320]  doing a mock trial.
[26:55.320 --> 27:01.320]  And this was at a seminar, and Pastor Massad came in late, so most of the
[27:01.320 --> 27:04.320]  people there didn't know him.
[27:04.320 --> 27:10.320]  Now, they held a mock trial, and they knew who he was academically, but they
[27:10.320 --> 27:12.320]  just didn't know him personally.
[27:12.320 --> 27:15.320]  And he sat in as the judge.
[27:15.320 --> 27:19.320]  And he said in this mock trial, people came up before him, and they stuttered
[27:19.320 --> 27:23.320]  and they stammered, and their hands were shaking.
[27:23.320 --> 27:29.320]  And I'm thinking, what in the world is going on with us?
[27:29.320 --> 27:36.320]  And I sat down and thought about this, trying to figure out how to handle this
[27:36.320 --> 27:38.320]  particular problem.
[27:38.320 --> 27:40.320]  And it kind of reminded me of a time.
[27:40.320 --> 27:43.320]  I've got a friend I mentioned every once in a while.
[27:43.320 --> 27:45.320]  His name is Leon.
[27:45.320 --> 27:52.320]  Leon is 6'7", 500 pounds, one of the biggest people I've ever met.
[27:52.320 --> 27:59.320]  And several years ago, he wanted me to go to court with him because he had a
[27:59.320 --> 28:01.320]  traffic ticket.
[28:01.320 --> 28:10.320]  And we went down to the court, and when we walked in the door, into the courtroom,
[28:10.320 --> 28:12.320]  something changed.
[28:12.320 --> 28:15.320]  Leon became a different person.
[28:15.320 --> 28:20.320]  And as I sat there and watched him, I was astounded.
[28:20.320 --> 28:27.320]  He reminded me for all the world of when I was in high school.
[28:27.320 --> 28:34.320]  He acted just like I did when I was in high school, the anger, the petulance,
[28:34.320 --> 28:39.320]  and the abject terror of power of people in authority.
[28:39.320 --> 28:46.320]  It was such a contrast that I was really taken aback by it.
[28:46.320 --> 28:51.320]  And when I talked to Pastor Massad the other day, it kind of became clear what
[28:51.320 --> 28:54.320]  was going on.
[28:54.320 --> 29:01.320]  You know, we spend most of the early part of our life subject to some
[29:01.320 --> 29:05.320]  overpowering, one overpowering authority or another.
[29:05.320 --> 29:10.320]  We start out with our parents, and however benevolent they may be, they are
[29:10.320 --> 29:15.320]  still an absolute authority we cannot resist.
[29:15.320 --> 29:21.320]  And we grow up from that and go to school, and we fall under another authority.
[29:21.320 --> 29:27.320]  And granted, the schools are required by law to instill in the child a deep
[29:27.320 --> 29:30.320]  and abiding faith in and respect for the American form of government.
[29:30.320 --> 29:34.320]  And they do that, and they tell us what a great country we have and all the
[29:34.320 --> 29:39.320]  rights we have, while they're clearly demonstrating to us don't even think of
[29:39.320 --> 29:43.320]  trying to exercise one wider in this school.
[29:43.320 --> 29:47.320]  And I'll finish this up on the other side.
[29:47.320 --> 29:49.320]  I think you're going to like this.
[29:49.320 --> 29:51.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig.
[29:51.320 --> 29:55.320]  Deborah Stevens on the Eddie Craig Show.
[29:55.320 --> 30:01.320]  We'll be back shortly.
[30:01.320 --> 30:05.320]  My name is Randall Kelton, and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio.
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[32:01.320 --> 32:07.320]  Yeah, Mr. Officer, you're taking the right hand.
[32:07.320 --> 32:12.320]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[32:12.320 --> 32:15.320]  I don't understand.
[32:15.320 --> 32:18.320]  This law is different from the service.
[32:18.320 --> 32:21.320]  It's not beat out of beans.
[32:21.320 --> 32:24.320]  Officer!
[32:24.320 --> 32:46.320]  When you're going to stop abuse, you're power.
[32:46.320 --> 32:52.320]  So please, Mr. McAuliffe, teach officer not to abuse your power.
[32:52.320 --> 32:59.320]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, and we're back.
[32:59.320 --> 33:08.320]  And I was discussing a problem I see a lot in talking to people when they call
[33:08.320 --> 33:13.320]  in about their problems and their issues.
[33:13.320 --> 33:19.320]  When we talk about what to do and remedies, a lot of people call in and they
[33:19.320 --> 33:23.320]  hear the remedies and they like the stories.
[33:23.320 --> 33:29.320]  But when they go down to the courthouse, everything changes.
[33:29.320 --> 33:34.320]  We figure out what we're going to say and we get our story all lined out and
[33:34.320 --> 33:40.320]  we get everything structured and we get down there and get tongue-tied.
[33:40.320 --> 33:43.320]  And everything just goes to the devil.
[33:43.320 --> 33:51.320]  I'm going to suggest something in psychology, they call it a reframe, that
[33:51.320 --> 33:54.320]  we learn to look at things different.
[33:54.320 --> 34:03.320]  Anyone who is concerned about going to fight a ticket, go down to the
[34:03.320 --> 34:06.320]  courthouse when you don't have a ticket.
[34:06.320 --> 34:09.320]  Just go down there and watch.
[34:09.320 --> 34:15.320]  You will find a whole, you'll have a whole different demeanor.
[34:15.320 --> 34:19.320]  You'll look at the police and the prosecutors and the judges and the
[34:19.320 --> 34:24.320]  bailiffs from a totally different perspective.
[34:24.320 --> 34:32.320]  Our first 12 years of experience with governmental officials was in school.
[34:32.320 --> 34:37.320]  And they went through a lot of trouble to keep us under their thumb, to keep
[34:37.320 --> 34:40.320]  us under absolute control.
[34:40.320 --> 34:45.320]  They seemed to have this abject terror that the slightest jink in their
[34:45.320 --> 34:49.320]  armor would lead to immediate chaos.
[34:49.320 --> 34:52.320]  So in spite of what they told us about this great and wonderful country we
[34:52.320 --> 35:00.320]  lived in, they kept us under absolute totalitarian control and programmed us
[35:00.320 --> 35:03.320]  to respond to that control.
[35:03.320 --> 35:07.320]  We get out of school, we're going about our lives.
[35:07.320 --> 35:13.320]  But when we're called back by some of our public officials and we walk in
[35:13.320 --> 35:21.320]  the door, the only tools we have for dealing with individuals in control is
[35:21.320 --> 35:28.320]  what we learned in school, except for one other place.
[35:28.320 --> 35:34.320]  Any of you who have children, who have ever been called down to school with
[35:34.320 --> 35:40.320]  your children, that accesses up a whole different set of responses and
[35:40.320 --> 35:45.320]  routines and ways of dealing with situations.
[35:45.320 --> 35:50.320]  Because now you're there, you're essentially your child's attorney.
[35:50.320 --> 35:54.320]  And you go back to school as an equal.
[35:54.320 --> 35:56.320]  And you deal with them as an equal.
[35:56.320 --> 35:58.320]  So it's not so difficult.
[35:58.320 --> 36:03.320]  When my children had trouble, the last thing they wanted was for dad to come
[36:03.320 --> 36:09.320]  down there, because sometimes it got real interesting.
[36:09.320 --> 36:15.320]  And most parents, when they go down, when their children are in trouble or
[36:15.320 --> 36:22.320]  they think that the school is acting improperly, and we had a parent recently,
[36:22.320 --> 36:27.320]  is very quick to go after them.
[36:27.320 --> 36:32.320]  So that's why I suggest go down and watch the proceedings, because then you
[36:32.320 --> 36:40.320]  can do it from the sovereign perspective, the parent, the one who's responsible
[36:40.320 --> 36:45.320]  for ensuring that all of these public officials do their jobs.
[36:45.320 --> 36:50.320]  And I guarantee you, if you go down there and sit down in the courtroom, either
[36:50.320 --> 36:53.320]  the clerk or the bailiff is going to come over and ask if you have a matter
[36:53.320 --> 36:55.320]  before the court.
[36:55.320 --> 36:59.320]  And you tell them, no, don't explain.
[36:59.320 --> 37:00.320]  We're the sovereigns.
[37:00.320 --> 37:02.320]  We don't explain ourselves.
[37:02.320 --> 37:05.320]  And if the bailiff comes over and says, asks you any questions, tell them,
[37:05.320 --> 37:08.320]  go away, I'm busy.
[37:08.320 --> 37:11.320]  And they'll go away.
[37:11.320 --> 37:14.320]  They know they have no authority over you.
[37:14.320 --> 37:19.320]  And if you go in there from the perspective of the parent, they'll see it
[37:19.320 --> 37:23.320]  immediately, and they'll leave you alone.
[37:23.320 --> 37:26.320]  Frankly, I go to court when I don't have anything, when I'm ever down there.
[37:26.320 --> 37:28.320]  I have a great time.
[37:28.320 --> 37:34.320]  They wind up just jumping up and down, trying to find a way not to get me upset.
[37:34.320 --> 37:41.320]  If you ever do that, you'll see these bailiffs and prosecutors and judges from
[37:41.320 --> 37:43.320]  a whole different perspective.
[37:43.320 --> 37:48.320]  Then if you have to go down there with a ticket, it's a lot easier because
[37:48.320 --> 37:54.320]  now you have a vicarious experience of being there and not being under that
[37:54.320 --> 37:56.320]  trauma.
[37:56.320 --> 38:00.320]  I don't know if this will help anybody, but it helped me.
[38:00.320 --> 38:03.320]  You know, Randy, yeah, and I think that that's a really interesting perspective,
[38:03.320 --> 38:09.320]  Randy, because as you were talking about this, it reminded me of how also in
[38:09.320 --> 38:16.320]  psychology, one area of thought is that in general, people's behavior patterns
[38:16.320 --> 38:23.320]  fall into one of three categories, either that of a child or an adult or a
[38:23.320 --> 38:25.320]  parent.
[38:25.320 --> 38:32.320]  Unfortunately, most people fall into one of the two dysfunctional categories
[38:32.320 --> 38:38.320]  as adults where they are behaving either like a child or a parent to everyone
[38:38.320 --> 38:43.320]  else around them instead of behaving like an adult to other adults around
[38:43.320 --> 38:44.320]  them.
[38:44.320 --> 38:48.320]  Of course, we as adults, we want to behave like adults and treat other
[38:48.320 --> 38:55.320]  adults as adults, but in this case, we want to treat these other adults from
[38:55.320 --> 38:59.320]  the perspective of a parent because we did create the government and they are
[38:59.320 --> 39:03.320]  our public servants and we have to take charge here.
[39:03.320 --> 39:08.320]  That is one case where you do want to assume the parental role instead of the
[39:08.320 --> 39:10.320]  adult or equal role.
[39:10.320 --> 39:14.320]  Now, that doesn't mean you have to be rude to them or condescending or
[39:14.320 --> 39:19.320]  belittling to them, but just the stance, the posture, the mindset.
[39:19.320 --> 39:20.320]  They're not our equals.
[39:20.320 --> 39:24.320]  Now, as human beings, yes, they are our equals.
[39:24.320 --> 39:28.320]  You know, God created all men equally, as it says in the Constitution.
[39:28.320 --> 39:31.320]  You know, our lords died for all of us.
[39:31.320 --> 39:36.320]  However, when they are in the capacity of a public servant, they are not our
[39:36.320 --> 39:37.320]  equals.
[39:37.320 --> 39:42.320]  That's why I'm not in agreement with a lot of tactics these days of activists
[39:42.320 --> 39:45.320]  schmoozing up with law enforcement.
[39:45.320 --> 39:46.320]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[39:46.320 --> 39:54.320]  You know, I'm not, you know, fraternized with the servants, mon, as they would
[39:54.320 --> 39:56.320]  say in the islands.
[39:56.320 --> 40:02.320]  Okay, they are our servants and we shouldn't really be schmoozing up to law
[40:02.320 --> 40:06.320]  enforcement or trying to work with them, you know, or coordinate with them.
[40:06.320 --> 40:09.320]  Unless you're going to be law, unless you're going into law enforcement.
[40:09.320 --> 40:11.320]  I mean, we are the sovereigns here.
[40:11.320 --> 40:15.320]  You know, we should be dealing with the legislatures and the court system.
[40:15.320 --> 40:23.320]  You know, I mean, the executive branch is the lowest rung on the ladder as far
[40:23.320 --> 40:25.320]  as our structure of government.
[40:25.320 --> 40:29.320]  And so, you know, I understand what you're saying, Randy.
[40:29.320 --> 40:34.320]  And so I think we need to assume the parental role when we are dealing with
[40:34.320 --> 40:37.320]  these people in a polite manner.
[40:37.320 --> 40:42.320]  Yes, and I'm okay with that if you're okay with that.
[40:42.320 --> 40:44.320]  Okay, inside joke.
[40:44.320 --> 40:49.320]  Anyway, it just seems natural.
[40:49.320 --> 40:55.320]  And we need some way of getting outside their control.
[40:55.320 --> 40:59.320]  Well, yeah, because like the situation you're describing, Randy, most people
[40:59.320 --> 41:05.320]  are assuming the role of the child and treating them as the parent.
[41:05.320 --> 41:09.320]  You know, like you're saying, shaking and, you know, all scared and everything.
[41:09.320 --> 41:12.320]  And it needs to be the other way around.
[41:12.320 --> 41:19.320]  And that's what I'm hoping that our show gives people opportunity to do.
[41:19.320 --> 41:24.320]  Because, you know, especially when someone like Rick comes on and tells what
[41:24.320 --> 41:27.320]  he did in the court.
[41:27.320 --> 41:29.320]  We get a different look at the court.
[41:29.320 --> 41:37.320]  We get to vicariously experience Rick's experience through his descriptions.
[41:37.320 --> 41:42.320]  Then when we go back to court ourselves, we don't just have this wonder and
[41:42.320 --> 41:46.320]  terror of what may be awaiting us.
[41:46.320 --> 41:51.320]  We have the vicarious experience of listening to other people's stories about
[41:51.320 --> 41:57.320]  how they've dealt with these situations, and it gives us more tools.
[41:57.320 --> 42:04.320]  But if we can't get ourselves out of that adolescent mode, we can't get
[42:04.320 --> 42:08.320]  access to those tools.
[42:08.320 --> 42:13.320]  And that's why I suggest if somebody has some time sometime, just go down
[42:13.320 --> 42:16.320]  and sit in court and watch.
[42:16.320 --> 42:20.320]  And it's best if you wear a suit, you know, dress up in nice business attire
[42:20.320 --> 42:27.320]  and take a manila folder and put some papers in it and one of these legal
[42:27.320 --> 42:32.320]  pads and put it on top of the manila folder and just sit there and take notes
[42:32.320 --> 42:34.320]  or doodle.
[42:34.320 --> 42:38.320]  And if somebody comes close to you, cover it up so they can't see it.
[42:38.320 --> 42:42.320]  And don't answer their questions.
[42:42.320 --> 42:43.320]  And watch.
[42:43.320 --> 42:47.320]  It's hilarious what they'll do.
[42:47.320 --> 42:50.320]  They'll all be looking at each other and looking over here, who is that person
[42:50.320 --> 42:52.320]  over there?
[42:52.320 --> 42:57.320]  If you have a fear of the courts, this will absolutely help you get over it
[42:57.320 --> 43:03.320]  because you will realize that they're just as afraid as you are.
[43:03.320 --> 43:08.320]  When you go in and interrupt their standard routines, they become just as
[43:08.320 --> 43:13.320]  frightened and just as worried as you do when you're taken out of your normal
[43:13.320 --> 43:17.320]  life and put into their routine.
[43:17.320 --> 43:22.320]  And that's all I got to say about that.
[43:22.320 --> 43:27.320]  If anybody's got any questions or comments, I think we can open up the phone
[43:27.320 --> 43:33.320]  lines and we can play Stump the Chumps.
[43:33.320 --> 43:36.320]  See if you can stump Eddie, not me.
[43:36.320 --> 43:38.320]  I'm easy.
[43:38.320 --> 43:41.320]  Okay, this is, I'm in too good of a mood today.
[43:41.320 --> 43:47.320]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:47.320 --> 43:53.320]  We'll be back on the other side and maybe we can get Eddie fired up.
[43:53.320 --> 44:01.320]  Okay, we'll be right back.
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[46:27.320 --> 46:31.320]  Okay, guys, I wanted to go back to something that we were talking about the
[46:31.320 --> 46:36.320]  other night that we never really thoroughly hashed out or got an answer to
[46:36.320 --> 46:41.320]  concerning this appealing a traffic ticket.
[46:41.320 --> 46:46.320]  Appealing of a traffic ticket here in Travis County, here in Austin.
[46:46.320 --> 46:58.320]  Okay, according to 1702 and the form for the bond, the bond form used to actually be
[46:58.320 --> 47:01.320]  published in the criminal procedure code.
[47:01.320 --> 47:03.320]  It's not anymore.
[47:03.320 --> 47:08.320]  And as we were discussing, it's called a bail bond and in the Constitution it's
[47:08.320 --> 47:15.320]  called bail and this 1702 bail bond that we were discussing on Monday has to do
[47:15.320 --> 47:22.320]  with the fact that you are attesting that your net worth is greater than or equal
[47:22.320 --> 47:29.320]  to double the amount of what they want for the bond, the cash amount would be
[47:29.320 --> 47:32.320]  for the bond, for the appeal, for the traffic ticket.
[47:32.320 --> 47:36.320]  In other words, you're saying, yes, I do have the money, but you don't have to
[47:36.320 --> 47:38.320]  post the cash bond.
[47:38.320 --> 47:44.320]  You have the right to this bail and like I said, the form itself used to even be
[47:44.320 --> 47:46.320]  published in the code.
[47:46.320 --> 47:53.320]  Okay, so our friend submits this form straight out of the code and the judge
[47:53.320 --> 48:01.320]  just stamped an I on it and sent back some forms for indigency, to claim indigency
[48:01.320 --> 48:04.320]  to get out of having to pay the cash bond.
[48:04.320 --> 48:10.320]  And they want all your bank records and all your receipts and all your paychecks
[48:10.320 --> 48:14.320]  and all your self-employees, you know, basically they want to prepare your tax
[48:14.320 --> 48:16.320]  form for you is what it looks like.
[48:16.320 --> 48:20.320]  They want to prepare your profit and loss statements so that they can determine,
[48:20.320 --> 48:24.320]  well, you know, these expenses are not really business expenses or whatever
[48:24.320 --> 48:27.320]  because, of course, what they're going to try to do is say that you're not
[48:27.320 --> 48:28.320]  really indigent.
[48:28.320 --> 48:32.320]  Well, I'm sorry, but, you know, that's not their job.
[48:32.320 --> 48:34.320]  They're not CPAs for one thing.
[48:34.320 --> 48:38.320]  You know, people prepare their own taxes, people prepare their own profit
[48:38.320 --> 48:44.320]  and loss statements, and so one route to take is to just submit the IRS tax
[48:44.320 --> 48:48.320]  return and say, hey, pal, you know, this is good enough for the IRS.
[48:48.320 --> 48:52.320]  You want to preempt the IRS, you know, that's your business.
[48:52.320 --> 48:58.320]  But I don't know if I like that so much because, well, for one thing, they ask
[48:58.320 --> 49:03.320]  for everything except for your tax return, okay, and, of course, then they
[49:03.320 --> 49:05.320]  want an interview, you know.
[49:05.320 --> 49:09.320]  I mean, this is like worse than the IRS getting audited, seriously, all right.
[49:09.320 --> 49:12.320]  And so, of course, my friend is absolutely not going to do any of this.
[49:12.320 --> 49:18.320]  But the whole point is he has a right to this constitutional bail, which in
[49:18.320 --> 49:24.320]  1702 is called a bail bond, and there's even a form for it in the code, at
[49:24.320 --> 49:27.320]  least the last publication, not the most recent one.
[49:27.320 --> 49:30.320]  And so what is the remedy now?
[49:30.320 --> 49:36.320]  Because, guys, you know, people who go through the traffic seminar and who go
[49:36.320 --> 49:41.320]  and fight these traffic tickets, this is where I would say a considerable
[49:41.320 --> 49:43.320]  number of people are going to end up.
[49:43.320 --> 49:48.320]  Now, apparently, and I'm thinking maybe it's because my friend is fighting this
[49:48.320 --> 49:52.320]  so hard, I know people recently who have gotten traffic tickets and have gone
[49:52.320 --> 49:56.320]  through the same process, filed the same motions that my friend has up until
[49:56.320 --> 49:59.320]  this point, and the prosecutor dismissed the ticket.
[49:59.320 --> 50:04.320]  And it could be because of this, what's going on here with my friend, because
[50:04.320 --> 50:08.320]  he's apparently the first one to do it recently here in Austin, fighting it
[50:08.320 --> 50:12.320]  using these forms and these methods, you know, that we've been discussing with
[50:12.320 --> 50:16.320]  Randy and Eddie in the traffic seminar materials.
[50:16.320 --> 50:20.320]  So I'm suspecting a lot of people are going to get to the point where, of
[50:20.320 --> 50:25.320]  course, the trial is going to be a sham, and you go, and there was nearly one
[50:25.320 --> 50:30.320]  snag concerning the motion for retrial because before you can appeal, you have
[50:30.320 --> 50:32.320]  to ask for a retrial.
[50:32.320 --> 50:36.320]  And then they don't want to schedule a motion hearing for the motion for
[50:36.320 --> 50:37.320]  retrial.
[50:37.320 --> 50:43.320]  But we got past that because the judge had a motion hearing on his motion for
[50:43.320 --> 50:47.320]  retrial before and didn't even tell him and then just sent him a letter and
[50:47.320 --> 50:48.320]  said it was denied.
[50:48.320 --> 50:52.320]  Okay, so if you get past that snag, now you run into the snag of the appeal
[50:52.320 --> 50:56.320]  bond, and how do you deal with that?
[50:56.320 --> 51:01.320]  And Randy, you were saying the other night that a writ of mandamus to the
[51:01.320 --> 51:09.320]  county court would not be appropriate because there is discretion involved
[51:09.320 --> 51:14.320]  here concerning this municipal judge, and, you know, he has discretion to
[51:14.320 --> 51:19.320]  deny your bond and make you deny your bail or whatever, the bail bond, and
[51:19.320 --> 51:21.320]  make you actually pay a cash bond.
[51:21.320 --> 51:27.320]  But what I'm saying here is in this particular case, there was basically no
[51:27.320 --> 51:28.320]  reason given.
[51:28.320 --> 51:34.320]  I mean, he didn't ask for a deed to the house or title to the car.
[51:34.320 --> 51:39.320]  There was never any opportunity for my friend to offer up any proof that, you
[51:39.320 --> 51:43.320]  know, his net worth is indeed worth more than double the amount of this
[51:43.320 --> 51:45.320]  ridiculous traffic ticket.
[51:45.320 --> 51:48.320]  And so where do we go from here?
[51:48.320 --> 51:53.320]  Because I'm afraid they're going to railroad him with this indigency thing,
[51:53.320 --> 51:57.320]  and, you know, that's just a big distraction.
[51:57.320 --> 51:59.320]  He has a right to this constitutional bail.
[51:59.320 --> 52:01.320]  He has a right to this bail bond.
[52:01.320 --> 52:06.320]  And not only that, but now we're running up on a time issue because something
[52:06.320 --> 52:11.320]  has to be submitted on Monday or else they're going to start the process to
[52:11.320 --> 52:15.320]  issue a warrant for his arrest for not paying the traffic ticket.
[52:15.320 --> 52:16.320]  Okay?
[52:16.320 --> 52:21.320]  So this is how they force people to just pay up, either pay the ticket or just
[52:21.320 --> 52:26.320]  pay the bond amount for the appeal because they try to railroad you, and
[52:26.320 --> 52:29.320]  then you run out of time, and then you get a warrant for your arrest, and
[52:29.320 --> 52:30.320]  then you have to deal with that too.
[52:30.320 --> 52:35.320]  So guys, this is a very important issue because a lot of people are going to
[52:35.320 --> 52:38.320]  get to this point, and they're going to need to know what to do.
[52:38.320 --> 52:40.320]  How do we get the bond?
[52:40.320 --> 52:42.320]  How do we get the bail bond?
[52:42.320 --> 52:46.320]  Okay, well, the first question I've got is has anyone actually checked the
[52:46.320 --> 52:48.320]  court file on your friend's court record?
[52:48.320 --> 52:49.320]  Yes.
[52:49.320 --> 52:50.320]  Okay.
[52:50.320 --> 52:53.320]  Is there an information filed in the court record?
[52:53.320 --> 52:56.320]  That I don't know.
[52:56.320 --> 53:01.320]  If there is no information on file, then the court lacked jurisdiction to
[53:01.320 --> 53:03.320]  institute the judgment in the first place.
[53:03.320 --> 53:04.320]  Wait a minute.
[53:04.320 --> 53:06.320]  It's a separate issue, though.
[53:06.320 --> 53:08.320]  Well, why is it a separate issue?
[53:08.320 --> 53:09.320]  Because we're talking about bail.
[53:09.320 --> 53:11.320]  We're not talking about subject matter jurisdiction.
[53:11.320 --> 53:14.320]  Yeah, but the bail's irrelevant if the court had no jurisdiction to hear the
[53:14.320 --> 53:16.320]  case to set a bail of any kind.
[53:16.320 --> 53:20.320]  Well, we can't talk about an issue if we say we can't talk about an issue
[53:20.320 --> 53:23.320]  because there's another issue you have to talk about before you can talk
[53:23.320 --> 53:24.320]  about this issue.
[53:24.320 --> 53:25.320]  We're talking about bail.
[53:25.320 --> 53:29.320]  Yeah, we've got a number of ways to go in after subject matter jurisdiction.
[53:29.320 --> 53:33.320]  I do know that subject matter jurisdiction was challenged, and that I
[53:33.320 --> 53:37.320]  believe the judge made a ruling on that.
[53:37.320 --> 53:40.320]  Without even bothering to read the pleadings.
[53:40.320 --> 53:43.320]  Yes, so I think that was addressed already.
[53:43.320 --> 53:46.320]  That's one of the reasons why we're going through the appeal.
[53:46.320 --> 53:49.320]  The motion to disqualify, he denied himself.
[53:49.320 --> 53:52.320]  Yes, he ruled on his own motion to disqualify.
[53:52.320 --> 53:55.320]  So he couldn't get much more illegal.
[53:55.320 --> 54:06.320]  And as I'm reading the Constitution here in Article 1, Section 11, all
[54:06.320 --> 54:11.320]  prisoners shall be bailable by sufficient sureties unless for capital offenses
[54:11.320 --> 54:15.320]  when the proof is evident, but this provision shall not be so construed as
[54:15.320 --> 54:19.320]  to prevent bail after indictment found on examination of the evidence in such
[54:19.320 --> 54:22.320]  manner as may be prescribed by law.
[54:22.320 --> 54:28.320]  And then 11A addresses denial of bail.
[54:28.320 --> 54:37.320]  And it essentially only goes to felony, at least what I've read of it so far.
[54:37.320 --> 54:43.320]  But in this case, none of those issues for denial of bail apply because
[54:43.320 --> 54:50.320]  class A misdemeanor first and there's no history of bail jumping.
[54:50.320 --> 54:54.320]  There's no history of multiple convictions.
[54:54.320 --> 55:03.320]  The judge acted in clear and direct violation of Constitution and statute.
[55:03.320 --> 55:05.320]  We need to go to the grand jury with him.
[55:05.320 --> 55:09.320]  By the way, I just did a Skype chat with my friend, and yes, there was no
[55:09.320 --> 55:14.320]  information in, yes, we have no bananas, yes, there was no information in the
[55:14.320 --> 55:19.320]  file and that was an issue that was raised as part of the challenge to
[55:19.320 --> 55:22.320]  jurisdiction and the judge just totally blew it off.
[55:22.320 --> 55:25.320]  Well, now, just FYI for the folks that are listening.
[55:25.320 --> 55:30.320]  There did used to be a section of statute in Chapter 45 that allowed the
[55:30.320 --> 55:33.320]  municipal court to proceed upon complaint alone.
[55:33.320 --> 55:39.320]  However, that particular section of statute was repealed in what appears to
[55:39.320 --> 55:41.320]  be 1999.
[55:41.320 --> 55:49.320]  So they're relying upon the oath that is no longer valid and does not allow
[55:49.320 --> 55:51.320]  them to proceed upon complaint alone.
[55:51.320 --> 55:57.320]  I can almost guarantee you the reason it was repealed was because it was
[55:57.320 --> 56:03.320]  challenged on Article 5, Section 12 of the state Constitution.
[56:03.320 --> 56:10.320]  Plus, it's out of sync with Article 27.01 Code of Criminal Procedure, which
[56:10.320 --> 56:13.320]  specifically states that an indictment or an information are the primary
[56:13.320 --> 56:17.320]  pleadings of the state in any criminal case.
[56:17.320 --> 56:23.320]  So right there, 2.05 is unconstitutional on its face for that same reason as
[56:23.320 --> 56:27.320]  that article that used to exist in Chapter 45 was.
[56:27.320 --> 56:32.320]  But the municipal courts are relying upon old laws if it's still in place and
[56:32.320 --> 56:34.320]  it is not.
[56:34.320 --> 56:43.320]  Well, here, the municipal court violated Constitution knowingly and
[56:43.320 --> 56:44.320]  deliberately.
[56:44.320 --> 56:48.320]  This is not a law that's been hashed around.
[56:48.320 --> 56:50.320]  This is not one that's in question.
[56:50.320 --> 56:55.320]  It's an absolute constitutional guarantee.
[56:55.320 --> 56:58.320]  And the judge denied it out of hand.
[56:58.320 --> 57:04.320]  I'm suggesting we go in Monday with criminal charges against the judge.
[57:04.320 --> 57:07.320]  Now, Randy, it's also in the statute.
[57:07.320 --> 57:08.320]  It's in 1702.
[57:08.320 --> 57:10.320]  I'm familiar with 1702.
[57:10.320 --> 57:12.320]  And see, here's the other thing.
[57:12.320 --> 57:16.320]  Okay, we can go in to the grand jury or try to go to the grand jury with
[57:16.320 --> 57:18.320]  criminal charges against the judge for this.
[57:18.320 --> 57:20.320]  But here's the other issue.
[57:20.320 --> 57:24.320]  While we're pursuing this, my friend's going to get a warrant for his arrest.
[57:24.320 --> 57:29.320]  And so what I'm considering here or maybe proposing is that in addition to
[57:29.320 --> 57:36.320]  that, to petition the county court for an injunction, an emergency injunction
[57:36.320 --> 57:42.320]  prohibiting the municipal court from issuing a warrant for his arrest until
[57:42.320 --> 57:47.320]  this situation is resolved concerning the bond for the appeal.
[57:47.320 --> 57:48.320]  Works for me.
[57:48.320 --> 57:49.320]  I mean...
[57:49.320 --> 57:53.320]  You could also petition for a motion to void judgment because the court lacked
[57:53.320 --> 57:55.320]  jurisdiction to make it to begin with.
[57:55.320 --> 58:02.320]  Yeah, we'd have to make that in the municipal court.
[58:02.320 --> 58:04.320]  No, you could make that in the county court.
[58:04.320 --> 58:07.320]  The county court doesn't have plenty of jurisdiction yet until the appeal gets
[58:07.320 --> 58:10.320]  there and they're blocking the appeal.
[58:10.320 --> 58:11.320]  That's right.
[58:11.320 --> 58:15.320]  That's the whole problem is that they're blocking the appeal in order to
[58:15.320 --> 58:21.320]  squeeze him for time to force him to either pay the tickets or pay the appeal
[58:21.320 --> 58:24.320]  bond or else they're going to issue a warrant for his arrest.
[58:24.320 --> 58:26.320]  This is where the rubber hits the road.
[58:26.320 --> 58:31.320]  And so I'm trying to figure out a way to buy some time to keep the warrant for
[58:31.320 --> 58:36.320]  the arrest coming down in order to pursue these methods in order to get the
[58:36.320 --> 58:39.320]  appeal before the warrant comes down.
[58:39.320 --> 58:40.320]  You see?
[58:40.320 --> 58:44.320]  Habeas.
[58:44.320 --> 58:45.320]  Habeas.
[58:45.320 --> 58:46.320]  Habeas.
[58:46.320 --> 58:48.320]  Let's talk about habeas on the other side.
[58:48.320 --> 58:49.320]  Okay.
[58:49.320 --> 58:50.320]  All right.
[58:50.320 --> 58:52.320]  And callers, if you have ideas, we're kicking this around.
[58:52.320 --> 58:55.320]  512-646-1984.
[58:55.320 --> 59:01.320]  We will be right back after the top of the hour news.
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[01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:03.320]  Officials in the Iraqi city of Mosul have threatened a campaign of civil
[01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:07.320]  disobedience against the government after allegations of torture and abuse
[01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:12.320]  at a secret prison controlled by the office of the Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
[01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:17.320]  More than 400 men from Nineveh province were arrested last year and taken to
[01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:22.320]  the makeshift jail at Old Mutana Military Air Base in Baghdad.
[01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:26.320]  The authorities in charge of the prison answered directly to Maliki who has
[01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.320]  denied any knowledge of his existence.
[01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:32.320]  The jail was closed last month after an investigation by the Human Rights
[01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:36.320]  Ministry and three army officers have been arrested.
[01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:41.320]  More than 100 prisoners have been released and 20 of them return to Mosul.
[01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:45.320]  The rest have been transferred to facilities overseen by the Ministry of
[01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.320]  Justice and await trial.
[01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:52.320]  Prisoners said torture was routine, including electrocution, suffocation
[01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:53.320]  and beatings.
[01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.320]  A number say they were sexually assaulted.
[01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:02.320]  Author and academic Robert Reich says Republicans are blocking a Senate vote
[01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:06.320]  for a finance reform bill seeking to build public support by misleading the
[01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:07.320]  public.
[01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:11.320]  Reich, former Secretary of Labor under President Clinton, says Republicans
[01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.320]  are claiming to want a stronger bill when in fact they're doing Wall Street's
[01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.320]  bidding by seeking a weaker one.
[01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:21.320]  Reich says evidence of their tactics comes in the form of a shady
[01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:27.320]  anti-financial reform group called Stop Too Big to Fail which is running a TV
[01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:32.320]  ad featuring an out of context quote from Reich to bolster its case.
[01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:37.320]  Reich says Stop Too Big to Fail is the project of Consumers for Competitive
[01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.320]  Choice which is using an ad agency which worked with the Swift Boat Vets for
[01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.320]  Truth in 2004.
[01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:50.320]  The website TPM Muckraker says the group has already spent $1.6 million on
[01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:56.320]  anti-reform ads and won't say who's funding the group's efforts.
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[01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.320]  I'm going to spread Republicans against the Reich.
[01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.320]  Tell them I'm a libertarian.
[01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.320]  They'll say we're not true, but they're gonna do it.
[01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.320]  Come, remember what?
[01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:43.320]  How are we saying?
[01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:45.320]  I'm not telling them.
[01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:49.320]  One day you'll find out.
[01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:53.320]  Bar this man.
[01:03:53.320 --> 01:04:15.400]  Okay, we are back for hour two of the rule of law and we are discussing here the situation
[01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:24.040]  of the municipal court doing everything they can to block your access to the county court
[01:04:24.040 --> 01:04:28.060]  for the appeal because they don't want you to appeal because they know that they don't
[01:04:28.060 --> 01:04:35.960]  have a leg to stand on and so they squeeze you for time, they try to make you pay double
[01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:42.280]  the amount of the traffic ticket for a cash bond for the appeal when that's illegal, it's
[01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:48.680]  very clear in constitution and in 1702 that you have the right to this bail or in 1702
[01:04:48.680 --> 01:04:56.520]  it's called a bail bond and in lieu of the bail bond, in lieu of bail you can post a
[01:04:56.520 --> 01:05:03.720]  cash bond but it is not the other way around and unless there's like a history of bail
[01:05:03.720 --> 01:05:10.840]  jumping or something they should be giving people their constitutional bail and so what
[01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:15.720]  it's looking like to me is that they're trying to squeeze my friend for time, they're trying
[01:05:15.720 --> 01:05:19.560]  to squeeze him and run him out of time so that they can hurry up and issue a warrant
[01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:25.280]  for his arrest and they're giving him a run around about the appeal so that he'll have
[01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.400]  to pay even more money and it looks to me like they're trying to block his access to
[01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:35.960]  the courts and so Randy was saying that that is cause for habeas and I tend to agree.
[01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:36.960]  Eddie?
[01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:43.240]  Yeah, I was wondering what would be the possibility of success with a constitutional challenge
[01:05:43.240 --> 01:05:50.520]  to the requirement of bail for an appeal since we are the only folks required to give such
[01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:56.520]  a bail before we're allowed to appeal a decision of a court, that seems just a tad bit one
[01:05:56.520 --> 01:06:02.360]  sided to me and it definitely violates the equal protection of the laws portion as far
[01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:03.360]  as I can tell.
[01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:07.720]  Now, would this be an argument that would be made in the habeas because here's what
[01:06:07.720 --> 01:06:12.400]  I would like to accomplish, first things first, we have to stop them from issuing a warrant
[01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:17.680]  for my friend's arrest because once that happens well now you got even more trouble to deal
[01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:26.160]  with and so can we petition for a restraining order against the municipal court from issuing
[01:06:26.160 --> 01:06:33.080]  a warrant for arrest in the habeas at the same time and also bring up your argument
[01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:35.200]  Eddie, guys, Randy?
[01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:40.200]  You can put my argument regarding the constitutionality of the requirement in the habeas, you can
[01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:45.400]  show that as one of the reasons why the habeas should be granted but now as far as your injunction
[01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:50.760]  that would be something I feel, it may not necessarily be true but I feel that you would
[01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:55.520]  need to file that separately at the hearing that the habeas would invoke.
[01:06:55.520 --> 01:07:00.760]  Randy, would that be part of the habeas or would it be a separate document filed with
[01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:02.080]  the habeas or what?
[01:07:02.080 --> 01:07:04.480]  I would rather that a separate issue.
[01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:10.400]  What we'll do by that is dilute the issue and give the judge some secondary reason to
[01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:12.360]  deny the habeas.
[01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:17.120]  Okay, so basically my friend is just like screwed and he's probably going to have to
[01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:19.600]  deal with the warrant too while we're sorting all this out.
[01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:26.760]  No, no, no, let's not deal with any really earth shattering constitutional issues that
[01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:33.440]  will entirely wipe out the whole ability of all of the state of Texas to enforce municipal
[01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:34.440]  law.
[01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:35.440]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:36.440]  Let's not ask the county judge to rule that.
[01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:37.920]  That's not what I'm saying, Randy.
[01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.080]  Okay, you misunderstood my question.
[01:07:40.080 --> 01:07:46.800]  I'm saying at the same time as the habeas, should my friend file a petition for temporary
[01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:52.720]  restraining order against a warrant for his arrest being issued until such time that this
[01:07:52.720 --> 01:07:54.200]  is all sorted out?
[01:07:54.200 --> 01:08:01.240]  No, that will be the point of the habeas will be to show cause as to why they're not denying
[01:08:01.240 --> 01:08:07.000]  him a constitutional bail.
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:11.360]  They either grant the bail or not if we put a restraining order in there, it's the same
[01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:12.360]  thing.
[01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:17.760]  If they're going to deny bail, they're going to deny the restraining order.
[01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:26.400]  They grant the bail and the restraining orders moot.
[01:08:26.400 --> 01:08:29.680]  What exactly are you asking for in the habeas?
[01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.680]  Constitutional right to bail.
[01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:35.960]  And if they say no, then what?
[01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.360]  He's just got to pay the double the cash bond then?
[01:08:38.360 --> 01:08:41.660]  Yes, but you can put a hundred restraining orders in there.
[01:08:41.660 --> 01:08:46.280]  If they're going to flat out deny the constitution, you think you're all of a sudden going to
[01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:49.320]  dance around a restraining order?
[01:08:49.320 --> 01:08:50.320]  We'll see.
[01:08:50.320 --> 01:08:55.840]  I was more going to 1702 rather than just going straight to constitution.
[01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.680]  That's both the same thing.
[01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:02.800]  The thing that gives it force is constitution.
[01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:14.400]  1702 is code of criminal procedure, then you'd have to back up to 3903 penal code.
[01:09:14.400 --> 01:09:23.040]  As the criminal act that the judge is committing, but by bringing it as a constitutional issue,
[01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:27.560]  it makes the jurisdiction suable.
[01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:36.760]  What you're basically saying is the habeas is the petition for the restraining order.
[01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:38.000]  You kind of don't even need it.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:42.640]  It's not like that there's going to be an ongoing hearing process.
[01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:46.640]  I was thinking there would be some kind of an ongoing process while they're deciding,
[01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:53.600]  but basically the county court would decide hopefully pretty quickly whether or not to
[01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:59.560] ... I mean, would they order the municipal court to grant the bail?
[01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:07.760]  I mean, it's the municipal court that needs to... So then it would be a mandamus also?
[01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:15.880]  Mandamus comes right under habeas, but habeas gives the judge more authority than the mandamus
[01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:16.880]  does.
[01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:17.880]  Okay.
[01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:23.000]  So would the county court be ordering the municipal court to grant the bail for the
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.200]  appeal, the constitutional bail?
[01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:32.440]  So it is a mandamus also, sort of, because a mandamus is when you ask the higher court
[01:10:32.440 --> 01:10:34.960]  to order a lower court to do something.
[01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:35.960]  Yes.
[01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:47.360]  But habeas goes a step farther and shows that the lower court is denying the rights of the
[01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:55.600]  accused and thereby binding him at his liberty in violation of law.
[01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:04.560]  It's essentially... When you look in chapter 52, the appellate procedure that defines habeas
[01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:13.120]  and writ, they're both in the same chapter, they look exactly the same, but just one stands
[01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:15.160]  above the other and asks for a little bit more.
[01:11:15.160 --> 01:11:16.160]  I see.
[01:11:16.160 --> 01:11:17.160]  Okay.
[01:11:17.160 --> 01:11:18.160]  Okay.
[01:11:18.160 --> 01:11:26.160]  And so... And as a matter of just as trivia, under habeas, then mandamus, then emergency
[01:11:26.160 --> 01:11:31.240]  restraining order, they fall in that order of how they're heard.
[01:11:31.240 --> 01:11:33.360]  Everything stands down before those three.
[01:11:33.360 --> 01:11:39.400]  Okay, now I remember when we went to file a habeas in your case in Williamson County,
[01:11:39.400 --> 01:11:43.600]  the judge wouldn't hear the habeas right away because you didn't include an order or something,
[01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.320]  so we would have to make sure that there's an order.
[01:11:45.320 --> 01:11:47.160]  No, he was full of crapola.
[01:11:47.160 --> 01:11:51.280]  Well, at any rate, if we would include an order, then they would not be able to use
[01:11:51.280 --> 01:11:52.880]  that excuse anymore.
[01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:58.320]  And so the thing that I'm concerned about is that the county judge is going to try to
[01:11:58.320 --> 01:12:04.360]  delay or give a runaround to not make a ruling on the habeas, and then my friend's just going
[01:12:04.360 --> 01:12:07.560]  to be in limbo, and meanwhile, there's going to be an arrest warrant issue.
[01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:08.560]  Okay, look.
[01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:09.560]  How do we avoid that?
[01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:11.880]  You shoot everybody in the building.
[01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:16.840]  That's the only way you can... You know, if nobody is going to pay attention to any
[01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:20.040]  law ever, what are you going to do?
[01:12:20.040 --> 01:12:22.200]  Well, I'm just trying to figure out the steps to take.
[01:12:22.200 --> 01:12:23.200]  That's all.
[01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:24.640]  That's the only... That's the step to take.
[01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:25.640]  Okay.
[01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.440]  You don't advocate violence on the rule of law, do you?
[01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:29.440]  No, we don't.
[01:12:29.440 --> 01:12:30.440]  No, we don't.
[01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:34.160]  But when... You know, you're asking what to do when nobody obeys law.
[01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:38.040]  No, I was asking what to do if the county judge gives you a runaround.
[01:12:38.040 --> 01:12:39.040]  That's what.
[01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:41.440]  Then we appeal the habeas to the district.
[01:12:41.440 --> 01:12:42.440]  Okay.
[01:12:42.440 --> 01:12:44.440]  Or to the court of appeals.
[01:12:44.440 --> 01:12:47.240]  Hopefully, that won't all be necessary.
[01:12:47.240 --> 01:12:48.240]  Okay.
[01:12:48.240 --> 01:12:53.360]  Okay, so the next order of business is to write a writ of habeas and to go to the county
[01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:58.480]  court and file that, I guess, either tomorrow or Monday.
[01:12:58.480 --> 01:13:00.800]  Along with criminal charges against the judge.
[01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:02.920]  Along with criminal charges against this municipal judge.
[01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:03.920]  All right.
[01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:04.920]  Sounds like a plan.
[01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:05.920]  Okay.
[01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.320]  We've got some callers on the line.
[01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:09.320]  We've got Mark in Washington.
[01:13:09.320 --> 01:13:11.040]  Mark, thanks for calling in.
[01:13:11.040 --> 01:13:12.040]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:13.040]  Hi.
[01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:22.480]  I'm doing a little preemptive research regarding to see if so-called off-road stickers, among
[01:13:22.480 --> 01:13:27.560]  other things, actually apply to the regular person, because I think it might come up with
[01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.560]  me later down the road.
[01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:35.840]  Anyway, a lot of people have a lot of public land, whether it be BLM or Forest Service
[01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:40.520]  land, and a lot of states, Washington and Oregon included, require or say they require
[01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:45.960]  or have these off-road sticker programs where you're supposed to have a sticker to ride
[01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.680]  off-road in these different public lands.
[01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.600]  I've been reading through the different codes, in this case, Oregon.
[01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:55.560]  Their vehicle code is 801.
[01:13:55.560 --> 01:14:03.480]  The code that talks about off-road vehicles is chapter 821 to see what, if any, of these
[01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:09.400]  off-road issues or stickers would apply to me or the average person.
[01:14:09.400 --> 01:14:14.500]  I must be missing something or maybe need a little direction or help on how or where
[01:14:14.500 --> 01:14:19.480]  to start in terms of how to find out if this really does apply to the average person or
[01:14:19.480 --> 01:14:20.480]  everybody.
[01:14:20.480 --> 01:14:24.720]  Well, are you talking about Washington State?
[01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:25.720]  Oregon.
[01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:26.720]  Okay.
[01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:31.680]  Now, remember, Oregon law is based on 1925 law as well for Oregon.
[01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.880]  I'm sorry, 1928.
[01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:39.440]  Your original base statutes in Oregon are from 1928, so keep that in mind when you're
[01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:41.480]  doing your research.
[01:14:41.480 --> 01:14:43.040]  Okay.
[01:14:43.040 --> 01:14:51.600]  Now, the part about what your terminology is, you can show very quickly that where your
[01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.480]  definitions are, what do they have for the definition of person in that statute where
[01:14:55.480 --> 01:14:57.560]  it applies to the things you're asking about.
[01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:01.240]  Is it defined in the statutes where you're talking about?
[01:15:01.240 --> 01:15:06.040]  In the off-road code, there is no definition of person that I can find.
[01:15:06.040 --> 01:15:07.040]  Okay.
[01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:12.720]  Is there any such thing as like there is here in Texas, like the Code Construction Act, which
[01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:17.960]  gives blanket definitions for all codes that are to be used if and when the code itself
[01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:20.800]  does not define the term?
[01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:24.560]  That's something I would have to research, so that would be maybe something at the beginning
[01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:25.560]  or some overall...
[01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.920]  It may be in a completely different code.
[01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.400]  For instance, here in Texas, it's in the government code.
[01:15:30.400 --> 01:15:34.840]  It's called the Code Construction Act, and it says that in the case of all codes, the
[01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:40.360]  following definition shall apply unless the statute in question specifically defines it
[01:15:40.360 --> 01:15:41.360]  otherwise.
[01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:42.360]  Okay.
[01:15:42.360 --> 01:15:45.240]  How might I look or find that?
[01:15:45.240 --> 01:15:50.080]  Would it still be in the so-called ORS, Organ Revised Statutes, or just in a different section
[01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:51.080]  or one of the first?
[01:15:51.080 --> 01:15:52.080]  It probably would be.
[01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:54.360]  The question is, which one?
[01:15:54.360 --> 01:15:58.280]  That's going to be something you're going to find out only by research or by writing
[01:15:58.280 --> 01:16:01.480]  to your legislature and getting someone to admit to where they are.
[01:16:01.480 --> 01:16:02.480]  Good luck.
[01:16:02.480 --> 01:16:03.480]  Sure.
[01:16:03.480 --> 01:16:04.480]  Right.
[01:16:04.480 --> 01:16:06.800]  The person is obviously one of the key words I need to be able to define.
[01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:13.200]  I mean, I found definitions for vehicle, which is defined in the Vehicle Code, Chapter 801,
[01:16:13.200 --> 01:16:19.000]  and it's similar to years, it appears to be, where it just says vehicle is any device upon
[01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  in or upon...
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:21.680]  Well, don't just rely on definitions.
[01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:22.680]  Consider this also.
[01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:28.360]  The first place you want to go to always when you begin your legal research is your state
[01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:30.720]  constitution.
[01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:34.560]  You start with your bill or declaration of rights in your constitution.
[01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:38.200]  You take it apart piece by piece until you understand it all.
[01:16:38.200 --> 01:16:41.760]  If we're going to go to break, if you'll hang on to the other side, I'll finish this up
[01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:42.760]  with you when we get there.
[01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:43.760]  Hang on.
[01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:44.760]  Thank you.
[01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:45.760]  Okay.
[01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:46.760]  All right.
[01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:47.760]  This is Eddie Craig.
[01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:48.760]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:49.760]  Go ahead.
[01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:50.760]  No, I was just going to say we have Ken from Texas on the line too.
[01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:51.760]  Go ahead, Eddie.
[01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:52.760]  All right.
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[01:18:25.200 --> 01:18:45.400]  Okay, now, as I was saying, when we talk about the study of the law, the first thing you
[01:18:45.400 --> 01:18:49.360]  do is you start with your constitution and your bill or declaration of rights, whichever
[01:18:49.360 --> 01:18:51.520]  one it contains.
[01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:56.760]  Then you go through and you look at the individual departments or branches sections of it to
[01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:01.760]  find out what power and authority was delegated to the individual branches of government in
[01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.560]  your state, okay?
[01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:10.520]  Once you know what they can or cannot do, then you can see what the arguments are.
[01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:16.080]  For instance, my first argument is show me where in the Texas Constitution the people
[01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:21.760]  gave the legislature or any other branch the power to regulate the people.
[01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:23.920]  That's just one question.
[01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.160]  The next question is, is like what we've got with the enactment clause.
[01:19:27.160 --> 01:19:31.760]  Where was the legislature given the authority to delegate lawmaking authority to municipalities
[01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:32.760]  and counties?
[01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.280]  Well, turns out they weren't.
[01:19:35.280 --> 01:19:39.800]  It's unconstitutional for anybody to enact something and call it a law in Texas when
[01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:44.280]  it's not created by the legislature and it does not bear this enacting clause.
[01:19:44.280 --> 01:19:50.480]  Now, the other thing is in the Texas Constitution, we have what's called the General Powers Clause.
[01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:56.840]  That's Article 1, Section 29, which says that everything in the general powers of government
[01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:04.400]  is forever accepted from the Bill of Rights or any other provision underneath the Bill
[01:20:04.400 --> 01:20:07.800]  of Rights, meaning the rest of the Constitution.
[01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:13.880]  That means anything the legislature enacts under its general powers may not be used against
[01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:20.640]  the people in derogation or abrogation of the people's rights, nor to grant an authority
[01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:26.280]  or power to any branch of government we didn't give it specifically.
[01:20:26.280 --> 01:20:31.600]  That right there shoots down a whole range of things that they say they can do, which
[01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:39.040]  they may can, but they can't do it to us because we reserve the right to say no.
[01:20:39.040 --> 01:20:41.320]  So those are the things you start with first.
[01:20:41.320 --> 01:20:47.120]  Once you figure out what they were given the authority to do, it becomes a whole lot easier
[01:20:47.120 --> 01:20:52.160]  to find the arguing points that shows here's what the Constitution says, here's what your
[01:20:52.160 --> 01:20:53.160]  statute says.
[01:20:53.160 --> 01:20:58.020]  Now, if you're going to say the statute means what you say it means, explain to me how that's
[01:20:58.020 --> 01:21:01.720]  not in violation of the Constitution right here.
[01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:03.160]  So they've got an option.
[01:21:03.160 --> 01:21:07.800]  They can change their story about how it applies or they can say, well, we're just going to
[01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:15.440]  do it despite what the Constitution says and set them up for sales for a horrendous lawsuit,
[01:21:15.440 --> 01:21:21.800]  which is what's going to happen if you play your cards right.
[01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:28.360]  Partly related to this is most of this is so-called federal land, but the sticker program
[01:21:28.360 --> 01:21:32.720]  in question is definitely a state program and they have a whole chapter that talks about
[01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:37.920]  off-road and the stickers and other things and the people on the ground that enforce
[01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:45.280]  this though are sometimes deputies that have been paid in part by the BLM or Forest Service
[01:21:45.280 --> 01:21:52.240]  or actually Forest Service specifically employed rangers.
[01:21:52.240 --> 01:21:58.960]  And so I'm curious as to what if any federal issue this might have or at least with a sticker
[01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:00.840]  program I guess it's solely state.
[01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:05.520]  Well, the first thing is, is the land in question actually ceded to the federal government or
[01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:07.640]  are they just on it?
[01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:10.120]  Okay, true.
[01:22:10.120 --> 01:22:11.680]  Okay.
[01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:16.480]  If they're just on it, they don't really have enforcement authority upon it, that would
[01:22:16.480 --> 01:22:18.880]  still maintain itself with the state.
[01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:26.480]  Okay, generally with the public lands, the public lands are not ceded from the state
[01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:33.040]  and the state and the feds have concurrent jurisdiction.
[01:22:33.040 --> 01:22:36.840]  But the feds wouldn't have jurisdiction for a violation of state law.
[01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:43.200]  That's a good question on federal land.
[01:22:43.200 --> 01:22:47.080]  Maybe that's part of the reason why they include deputies on their patrols, but I think there
[01:22:47.080 --> 01:22:55.400]  are or I know of situations where it was strictly Forest Service specific person that used some
[01:22:55.400 --> 01:23:00.240]  of these state laws like the sticker law to enforce or write tickets upon.
[01:23:00.240 --> 01:23:01.240]  That's a good question.
[01:23:01.240 --> 01:23:08.280]  Can a fed enforce a state law on federal land?
[01:23:08.280 --> 01:23:09.840]  I don't think so.
[01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:12.920]  I don't see where he would have jurisdiction to do that.
[01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:17.800]  There may be some provision, it's just I've never seen it.
[01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:18.800]  It would make sense.
[01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:22.400]  Well, but I mean let's take it in reverse.
[01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:27.080]  The state official has no authority to enforce federal law.
[01:23:27.080 --> 01:23:28.080]  He does.
[01:23:28.080 --> 01:23:33.000]  Well, hang on just a second.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:38.840]  The state has to adopt the federal law before that official has the authority to enforce
[01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:40.080]  it.
[01:23:40.080 --> 01:23:46.440]  If the state does not adopt that law, then the official cannot enforce it.
[01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:54.240]  Hmm, that's also a good question.
[01:23:54.240 --> 01:24:04.920]  I was under the impression that a state official could enforce federal law within the state.
[01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:07.960]  I don't see how a state official could do that.
[01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:12.320]  If a guy robs a bank, that's a federal offense.
[01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:16.040]  Yeah, but it's also an offense within the state.
[01:24:16.040 --> 01:24:21.880]  That's robbery, so he has authority to go after it on that ground, but if you're talking
[01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:27.480]  strictly a federal law and the state itself has not adopted that law, he's not going
[01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:28.800]  to have authority to enforce that.
[01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:29.800]  I don't think so.
[01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:30.800]  That's a good point.
[01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:32.840]  I agree with Eddie on this one.
[01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:33.840]  Okay.
[01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.320]  One other question though, maybe this goes back to the code of construction type scenario,
[01:24:39.320 --> 01:24:43.440]  is that I haven't found the definition of off-road anywhere.
[01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:51.120]  A vehicle, yes, and issues specific to so-called off-road vehicles, but not the actual phrase
[01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:54.960]  off-road vehicle.
[01:24:54.960 --> 01:25:00.780]  When a term is not defined in law and they say that any word not defined shall be given
[01:25:00.780 --> 01:25:09.400]  as common usage, the first thing to remember is they always mean it's common usage in law.
[01:25:09.400 --> 01:25:15.360]  The first place you go looking for that definition is a law dictionary, not Webster's.
[01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:16.360]  There's no off-road.
[01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:20.880]  Yeah, I got about a month ago those seventh edition of Blacks, and that doesn't have off-road
[01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:22.880]  in it.
[01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:30.440]  Okay, then it sounds like what you're looking for is to get that out of the way then, because
[01:25:30.440 --> 01:25:35.120]  you need to find out what definition they're going of to show what off-road means.
[01:25:35.120 --> 01:25:40.840]  Is it possible they'd be using, or the feds have this defined someplace?
[01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:47.360]  Sure, it's possible, but if the fed has it, then it automatically has to do with commerce,
[01:25:47.360 --> 01:25:51.400]  because the fed can't create a law within the state for any other purpose.
[01:25:51.400 --> 01:25:57.720]  Wait, if it's on federal land, it's essentially not in the state.
[01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:03.240]  But it has to be ceded land before that would apply, Randy.
[01:26:03.240 --> 01:26:04.240]  No.
[01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:05.240]  Maybe.
[01:26:05.240 --> 01:26:07.800]  Well, you and I have had that discussion before.
[01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:12.600]  Without it being ceded, the fed does not have law jurisdiction.
[01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:17.760]  They can operate on it, but they don't have law enforcement authority over the land, because
[01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:18.760]  it's not ceded land.
[01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:19.760]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:25.200]  What might be a tool to look or search for what particular lands have been ceded or not
[01:26:25.200 --> 01:26:26.200]  to the Secretary of State?
[01:26:26.200 --> 01:26:27.200]  That's Deborah's question.
[01:26:27.200 --> 01:26:28.200]  She can answer that.
[01:26:28.200 --> 01:26:31.760]  Can you say that question again one more time?
[01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:36.080]  Where might I search for, regarding whether a piece of land has been ceded to the federal
[01:26:36.080 --> 01:26:37.080]  government?
[01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:42.000]  You go to... Most of the time, the first order of business is to contact the Secretary
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:47.400]  of State's office, because what has to happen in order for the federal government to have
[01:26:47.400 --> 01:26:54.200]  law enforcement jurisdiction on a piece of land, see the... Contrary to what they're
[01:26:54.200 --> 01:26:59.720]  doing right now, which is totally illegal and unconstitutional, the federal government
[01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:07.640]  does not just have blankets, law enforcement capacity, free reign over the whole state
[01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:11.040]  like the state government does.
[01:27:11.040 --> 01:27:16.800]  The federal government is technically a foreign government in the eyes of the state government.
[01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:21.680]  The state government has sovereign authority and jurisdiction over the entire state within
[01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.200]  the state's borders, but the federal government does not.
[01:27:25.200 --> 01:27:31.360]  In order for the federal government to have law enforcement capacity, a piece of land,
[01:27:31.360 --> 01:27:38.480]  a specific piece of land, has to be ceded, formally ceded, C as in CAD, E, D, E, D, to
[01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:40.480]  the federal government by the state.
[01:27:40.480 --> 01:27:47.960]  It has to be signed by the governor, and there has to be an acceptance document from the
[01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:52.280]  General Services Administration, from the federal government, and that is sent back
[01:27:52.280 --> 01:27:57.520]  to the governor's office, and the secretary of state maintains all those records for the
[01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:02.800]  most part in most states, and generally they are kept at the state archives building in
[01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:03.800]  states.
[01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:07.920]  Here in Texas it's at the state archives, it's the archives library, and you can go
[01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:08.920]  there.
[01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:13.360]  I looked up, I have a list, I have all the documents of all the pieces of property that
[01:28:13.360 --> 01:28:19.800]  have ever been ceded to the federal government in the state of Texas, and most of them are,
[01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:25.720]  there's a couple of federal prisons and there's some military bases, but for the most part
[01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:30.560]  even post offices are not, they are not formally ceded to the federal government.
[01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:35.040]  Now the federal government can own land, but they don't have law enforcement jurisdiction
[01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:41.320]  on those properties, okay, and I found out in Travis County here, not one square inch
[01:28:41.320 --> 01:28:43.640]  of land has ever been ceded to the federal government.
[01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:50.640]  In fact there was a big brouhaha over it concerning the Air Force Base, Bergstrom Air Force Base.
[01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:55.760]  Bergstrom Air Force Base never got ceded to the federal government in Travis County, and
[01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.840]  then the only other piece of property that was ever in question was the downtown post
[01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:02.040]  office at Guadalupe at Sixth Street.
[01:29:02.040 --> 01:29:05.880]  That was never ceded either, and the federal government, it's hilarious, I was reading
[01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.920]  these letters, these letters were coming from the General Services Administration, and they
[01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:14.400]  were writing to the governor saying, we don't seem to have any records that you guys ever
[01:29:14.400 --> 01:29:19.200]  ceded us this land, can you please check your records, and they were writing back and like,
[01:29:19.200 --> 01:29:24.760]  sorry, we never did, and so, yeah, basically you would contact the Secretary of State's
[01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:30.320]  office and find out where the documents are kept of ceded properties that have been ceded
[01:29:30.320 --> 01:29:34.160]  to the federal government, and in general it's going to be at the Archives building,
[01:29:34.160 --> 01:29:38.640]  but contact the Secretary of State first, and you may have to make a trip to your capital.
[01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:44.120]  I had to actually go to the Archives Library, they're not going to look it up for you, so
[01:29:44.120 --> 01:29:48.880]  you may have to make a trip to the capital city of your state and look up those records
[01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:49.880]  for yourself.
[01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:50.880]  Okay, is that helpful?
[01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:51.880]  Yes, very much.
[01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:52.880]  That's a good start.
[01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:53.880]  Okay, great.
[01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:54.880]  Thank you, Mark.
[01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:55.880]  Okay, thank you.
[01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:56.880]  Okay, bye-bye.
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[01:31:25.480 --> 01:31:28.680]  We're going to Ken in Texas, right after that is Stephen in Montana.
[01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:30.080]  Ken, thanks for calling in.
[01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:31.080]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:31:31.080 --> 01:31:32.080]  Well, hi there.
[01:31:32.080 --> 01:31:36.320]  This is a call, I guess, mostly directed to Randy.
[01:31:36.320 --> 01:31:42.880]  Randy, as you know, I have your traffic course, I just got that recently, and Randy and Eddie's
[01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:47.200]  traffic course, and yours, Deborah, you all contributed to that, and I'm just going through
[01:31:47.200 --> 01:31:48.200]  that.
[01:31:48.200 --> 01:31:53.360]  I've been doing some research also, and I thought the listeners might really appreciate
[01:31:53.360 --> 01:32:02.200]  this, but in Texas, it seems, I've seen a report that 10% of Texans have outstanding
[01:32:02.200 --> 01:32:14.160]  traffic warrants, and I live in the Dallas area, Dallas gets more than 50% of its municipal
[01:32:14.160 --> 01:32:18.360]  revenue from traffic tickets at this point.
[01:32:18.360 --> 01:32:22.160]  Yeah, that's actually true of quite a number of the cities.
[01:32:22.160 --> 01:32:28.600]  They get the majority or at least a very large chunk of that from those tickets, and you
[01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:33.080]  know that's what they're in the business of doing, because that's exactly the order that's
[01:32:33.080 --> 01:32:37.840]  gone out in a lot of cities across the US of A. We're facing a budget crunch, get out
[01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:40.080]  there and write more tickets, we need money.
[01:32:40.080 --> 01:32:45.440]  Right, but I live in a suburb of Dallas, and I have never really liked going down into
[01:32:45.440 --> 01:32:53.560]  Dallas, but now they're getting a new police chief, or I guess they just got one yesterday,
[01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:59.440]  and we'll see how that goes, but I'm sure revenue enhancement is going to be one of
[01:32:59.440 --> 01:33:01.840]  his main themes.
[01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:05.080]  Probably if he wants to keep his job, it'll have to be.
[01:33:05.080 --> 01:33:06.080]  Right.
[01:33:06.080 --> 01:33:11.800]  Anyway, I'm going through the traffic course and learning about it, and I had done a little
[01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:20.440]  bit of fighting my ticket before then, because I have some tickets, and actually I have a
[01:33:20.440 --> 01:33:29.160]  real simple question, but I just kind of wanted to lay that all out there for you, but yesterday
[01:33:29.160 --> 01:33:34.920]  I filed a bar grievance against the prosecutor in the municipal court.
[01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:39.000]  Who is the prosecutor in the municipal court?
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:42.040]  Well, he happens to be the city attorney.
[01:33:42.040 --> 01:33:43.040]  Right.
[01:33:43.040 --> 01:33:45.680]  Why are you letting them get away with that?
[01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.240]  That's going to be one of my bar grievances, actually.
[01:33:49.240 --> 01:33:52.600]  What I figured, you know, honestly I want to tell you this, that everybody listening
[01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:59.240]  to the traffic course is so excellent, Eddie goes into an incredible amount of detail about
[01:33:59.240 --> 01:34:09.680]  the transportation code, and really gives some good courtroom information, and Randy
[01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:11.840]  goes into some real good strategies and stuff.
[01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:15.440]  This is a lot more than traffic, really.
[01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:22.320]  It's really just a really good strategy for self-defense, and so, but before I really
[01:34:22.320 --> 01:34:26.960]  get into applying some of those strategies, I really kind of wanted to soften them up
[01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:31.600]  with some bar grievances, because, you know, after I go ahead and win the tickets, this
[01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:33.720]  is going to be a moot point.
[01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:40.760]  So anyway, I've got between 12 and 70 bar grievance items here, speaking with specificity
[01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:47.200]  and particularity, and so I've already mailed out another one today, and my first concept
[01:34:47.200 --> 01:34:52.920]  was to just drip them in one day at a time until they cry uncle, but I don't know.
[01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:53.920]  What do you think?
[01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:57.440]  Would that be good, or should I just drop them all on them?
[01:34:57.440 --> 01:35:04.280]  Well, that's up to you, but I would make a serious effort to go down to the city secretary,
[01:35:04.280 --> 01:35:09.720]  find out who the bonding company is for the city, and verify that the city attorney is
[01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:14.760]  covered under that same bonding company, and every bar grievance you file against him,
[01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:16.560]  send them a copy of it.
[01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:17.560]  Okay.
[01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:24.960]  That will raise the city's bond rating, and the city will start having a fit.
[01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:25.960]  Yeah, okay.
[01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:29.360]  That way you can drop as many as you want in one shot, and there ain't nothing the
[01:35:29.360 --> 01:35:30.560]  lawyer can do about it.
[01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:36.000]  The problem with dropping them all in one shot is they might treat it like one.
[01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:46.040]  If they get one at a time, or at least each in a separate mailing, and each one needs
[01:35:46.040 --> 01:35:52.720]  to address a canon of ethics, then they got a bigger problem.
[01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:55.720]  Absolutely.
[01:35:55.720 --> 01:36:00.800]  This was a lot of work to me, kind of being a bit rusty on legal research, but really
[01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:06.320]  dividing it up into step-by-step what they did or did not do, and I'm still working
[01:36:06.320 --> 01:36:15.600]  through it, but my first concept was I'm going to put everything that he did on each item
[01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:19.880]  that he did wrong on a separate bar grievance.
[01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:23.960]  Sometimes they may tie it together a little bit, but like I put one on the first one,
[01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:28.640]  I think I put two or three on the second one, because they were kind of related, but easily
[01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:35.920]  I've got anywhere between 12 and 70, depending upon how discreet I want to be on it.
[01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:37.680]  You don't wish to be discreet.
[01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:41.160]  You want to be the biggest pain in the butt they've ever laid eyes on.
[01:36:41.160 --> 01:36:42.160]  Only 70?
[01:36:42.160 --> 01:36:45.800]  Or are you paying attention?
[01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:46.800]  Yeah.
[01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:47.800]  70.
[01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:52.840]  Anyway, I mean, if he fails to do something, that's an item.
[01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:55.040]  If he does something, that's an item, right?
[01:36:55.040 --> 01:36:56.040]  Right.
[01:36:56.040 --> 01:37:03.120]  Don't forget to accompany those bar grievances with judicial conduct complaints and criminal
[01:37:03.120 --> 01:37:04.120]  complaints.
[01:37:04.120 --> 01:37:08.960]  Don't just give him the one thing, give him everything.
[01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:15.520]  Along with the bar grievance, I send in accompanying criminal complaint.
[01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.160]  No, you don't send that into the same place.
[01:37:18.160 --> 01:37:22.120]  The criminal complaints, you're going to file there either with the district attorney, the
[01:37:22.120 --> 01:37:25.480]  county attorney, or directly with the grand jury.
[01:37:25.480 --> 01:37:26.600]  Okay.
[01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:34.000]  Because each bar grievance, I'm alleging not only items on the canons of ethics, but these
[01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:35.800]  are also criminal.
[01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:36.800]  That's correct.
[01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:40.840]  Now, the same thing would apply with the judicial, you do the judicial conduct complaints just
[01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:44.480]  like you do the bar grievances, except, of course, you send them to a different set of
[01:37:44.480 --> 01:37:46.080]  folks as well.
[01:37:46.080 --> 01:37:52.120]  But same thing, you cause this guy as much pain as he can make him think he's given child
[01:37:52.120 --> 01:37:53.120]  birth here.
[01:37:53.120 --> 01:37:57.120]  Well, he's not a judge, so how would judicial conduct apply?
[01:37:57.120 --> 01:37:58.120]  He's a judicial officer.
[01:37:58.120 --> 01:37:59.120]  Oh, no.
[01:37:59.120 --> 01:38:02.800]  You can't go to the attorney with judicial conduct, but you can go to the judge with
[01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:09.600]  condoning it, acting in concert and collusion.
[01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:17.120]  At one point, I did want to bring up, with you hammering this guy with bar grievances,
[01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:23.160]  if he mentions the bar grievances, grieve him for that.
[01:38:23.160 --> 01:38:27.400]  By the way, I sent him a copy of the first one.
[01:38:27.400 --> 01:38:30.920]  Oh, you're not supposed to do that.
[01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:31.920]  Oh, well.
[01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.960]  I didn't see any rules that I couldn't do that, so I did it.
[01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:35.960]  Okay.
[01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:42.480]  I personally don't want him to find out from me.
[01:38:42.480 --> 01:38:47.760]  I want him to find out from somebody else that they have to answer to.
[01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:56.360]  That's a lot more fun, but he's almost certainly a practicing attorney, and good chance you'll
[01:38:56.360 --> 01:38:59.040]  come back and he'll be gone and there'll be another one.
[01:38:59.040 --> 01:39:05.240]  Oh, well, if he's a practicing attorney, that's even worse.
[01:39:05.240 --> 01:39:11.200]  In the course, you did get the motion or petition for a prosecutor to show authority, correct?
[01:39:11.200 --> 01:39:12.200]  Right.
[01:39:12.200 --> 01:39:14.200]  You've read through that?
[01:39:14.200 --> 01:39:17.320]  I have to read that one some more, but I did scan it.
[01:39:17.320 --> 01:39:18.600]  You need to read it.
[01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:21.520]  Have you requested his license to practice?
[01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:26.320]  I haven't requested his license, but I've requested a lot of information from him in
[01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:32.080]  two different PIRs, and he has been obstructing getting that information to me, which is giving
[01:39:32.080 --> 01:39:35.080]  me more grounds for bartering.
[01:39:35.080 --> 01:39:39.880]  Read 38.123, penal code, paragraph D.
[01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:46.800]  Yeah, 122 and 123, both in fact.
[01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:52.880]  Those 23, it's the illegal practice of law, but it is a defense to the illegal practice
[01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:59.040]  of law if you are licensed to practice law in the state, in another state, or in a foreign
[01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:07.760]  country, and it's accepted by the state, and you are in good standing with the bar.
[01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:08.760]  Right.
[01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:13.800]  And then the constitution, government code, you've got that one, haven't you, Eddie, that
[01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.680]  authorizes the Supreme Court to issue-
[01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:18.880]  Yeah, that's chapter 82.
[01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:23.880]  82.021, I believe.
[01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:32.280]  It authorizes the Supreme Court to issue bar cards, I mean, licenses, and the Bar Association
[01:40:32.280 --> 01:40:41.480]  issues bar cards, and 38.123 requires they have both, and what the attorney is going
[01:40:41.480 --> 01:40:45.520]  to say, well, the Supreme Court doesn't issue bar cards.
[01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:47.320]  Yeah, it's your problem.
[01:40:47.320 --> 01:40:50.120]  Yeah, your problem, not my problem.
[01:40:50.120 --> 01:40:57.800]  My problem is the bailiff hasn't arrested you yet, and the judge has to have one as
[01:40:57.800 --> 01:40:58.800]  well.
[01:40:58.800 --> 01:40:59.800]  Excellent.
[01:40:59.800 --> 01:41:06.000]  By the way, I did get the, as you pointed out, in my bar grievance, I need to put in
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:12.320]  specific violations of the Texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct.
[01:41:12.320 --> 01:41:13.320]  Exactly.
[01:41:13.320 --> 01:41:19.600]  I had a guy here, file one, and they said, this was just a request for mediation because
[01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:22.320]  you didn't state one of the canons.
[01:41:22.320 --> 01:41:23.320]  Right.
[01:41:23.320 --> 01:41:31.640]  I did download that book, it's 123 pages, I went and had it printed out and bound, and
[01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:37.560]  I've gone through it page by page with a yellow marker, and I want to tell you, this is the
[01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:47.440]  best investment of 23 bucks I've ever made because this shows you exactly what to allege,
[01:41:47.440 --> 01:41:52.520]  and you know, I mean, point out, it tells you what rules they've got to play by.
[01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:55.120]  How about rule 8.04, misconduct?
[01:41:55.120 --> 01:42:05.200]  Misconduct, they say, that this 8.04 says this basically, that that section basically
[01:42:05.200 --> 01:42:09.640]  combines, it's a comprehensive restatement of all forms of conduct that was subject to
[01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:16.280]  lawyer to discipline under the rules, state bar or their codes here.
[01:42:16.280 --> 01:42:24.680]  There's one more thing you need to find since you're going after a prosecutor, the American
[01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:29.360]  Bar Association standards for the prosecutorial function.
[01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:33.160]  American Bar Association standards for prosecutor, okay.
[01:42:33.160 --> 01:42:38.040]  I vilified an attorney on the stand with that one.
[01:42:38.040 --> 01:42:42.320]  Oh, it was a hoot.
[01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:45.840]  I called the last witness, the judge said, Mr. Company, do you have any further witnesses?
[01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:47.680]  I called Stephen Hale.
[01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:52.480]  Prosecutor jumps up, he can't do that, and the judge said, yes, Mr. Hale, he can.
[01:42:52.480 --> 01:42:56.840]  I put the prosecutor on the stand and asked him if he was aware of any other witnesses
[01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:57.840]  in this incident.
[01:42:57.840 --> 01:42:58.840]  He said, yes, he was.
[01:42:58.840 --> 01:42:59.840]  Did you talk to him?
[01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:00.840]  No, I didn't.
[01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:01.840]  Why didn't you?
[01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:03.400]  Well, I didn't believe you, Mr. Kelton.
[01:43:03.400 --> 01:43:05.080]  Oh, you didn't believe me, huh?
[01:43:05.080 --> 01:43:07.800]  You familiar with the American Bar Association standards for prosecutorial function?
[01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:09.000]  He said, yes, I am.
[01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  You familiar with standard 3-3.11?
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.120]  No, Mr. Kelton, I'm not familiar with every single paragraph.
[01:43:15.120 --> 01:43:18.680]  Well, let me familiarize you with it then.
[01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:24.320]  It says it is unethical conduct for a prosecuting attorney to refrain from pursuing evidence
[01:43:24.320 --> 01:43:28.160]  solely because the evidence will show the innocence of the accused or mitigate the guilt
[01:43:28.160 --> 01:43:29.160]  of the accused.
[01:43:29.160 --> 01:43:34.480]  Now, do you still consider yourself an ethical attorney?
[01:43:34.480 --> 01:43:41.160]  I thought I was going to jail over that one, and I was thinking it would be worth it.
[01:43:41.160 --> 01:43:43.400]  But that would be a good one to get and read.
[01:43:43.400 --> 01:43:46.960]  And his problem was that he's the one that gave me the copy of it.
[01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:48.600]  That's pretty funny.
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:52.480]  OK, listen, we've got three other callers on the line and only one segment left.
[01:43:52.480 --> 01:43:56.120]  So Ken, call back in tomorrow night if you have more.
[01:43:56.120 --> 01:44:07.560]  We'll be right back.
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[01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:38.200]  Somebody's going to police the police man.
[01:45:38.200 --> 01:45:39.200]  Somebody's going to bully the bully.
[01:45:39.200 --> 01:45:42.000]  That would be us and you listeners and callers.
[01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:47.080]  We've got three callers left on the line and just briefly I wanted to address this situation
[01:45:47.080 --> 01:45:52.220]  again concerning the property ceded to the federal government in the state.
[01:45:52.220 --> 01:45:59.000]  In order for it to be a complete process, the state has to receive back an acceptance
[01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.000]  letter.
[01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:04.200]  It's called a notice of acceptance from the federal government and so if the notice of
[01:46:04.200 --> 01:46:10.360]  acceptance is not in the file concerning a particular piece of property, if it's just
[01:46:10.360 --> 01:46:14.480]  been ceded by the governor but there's not been a notice of acceptance received back
[01:46:14.480 --> 01:46:19.520]  to the state from the federal government, then the process hasn't been completed.
[01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:22.480]  Sometimes you can get a list of all the properties.
[01:46:22.480 --> 01:46:24.520]  Sometimes it's just a bunch of files.
[01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:33.880]  In Texas, there are like three quasi incomplete lists dating back to certain years and if
[01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:40.400]  you put them all together, they encompass mostly a complete list but as far as the notices
[01:46:40.400 --> 01:46:44.800]  of acceptance, those would be in the files with a particular piece of property along
[01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:49.640]  with the document and in some states, they'll have all the notices of acceptance together
[01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:52.120]  and all the ceded documents together.
[01:46:52.120 --> 01:46:57.000]  In some states, they'll break it up by county and some states, they'll break it up by individual
[01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:01.320]  properties so I just wanted to add that in that definitely that other document is important
[01:47:01.320 --> 01:47:04.560]  you need to look for that if you're inquiring to a particular piece of property.
[01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:08.040]  Okay, we're going now to Steve in Montana, first time caller.
[01:47:08.040 --> 01:47:09.040]  Thank you, Steve.
[01:47:09.040 --> 01:47:10.040]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:47:10.040 --> 01:47:11.040]  Hi, guys.
[01:47:11.040 --> 01:47:16.920]  I'll just be brief on an issue at hand that I need to do in the morning and then I'll
[01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:23.160]  call back tomorrow night for the questions but recently, got a lot of judge going on
[01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:24.160]  here.
[01:47:24.160 --> 01:47:35.040]  I filed a discovery request about two and a half months ago and with that, I filed a
[01:47:35.040 --> 01:47:45.000]  petition to continue the case until my discovery was granted or received and the judge ordered
[01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:53.880]  that so continued it and then all of a sudden, she, about two months later, refiled the case
[01:47:53.880 --> 01:48:01.520]  or reopened another hearing without me getting any of my discovery so I filed a motion to
[01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:08.960]  compel and a motion to sanction, prosecutor, she denied that and still carried on the case
[01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:15.640]  so I filed an affidavit of prejudice along with some criminal complaints and then also
[01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:22.160]  the judge, I did a motion for summary judgment, the judge denied that without the prosecuting
[01:48:22.160 --> 01:48:25.200]  side even answering it.
[01:48:25.200 --> 01:48:31.480]  I did a request for admissions, the prosecutor answered saying that she didn't have to answer
[01:48:31.480 --> 01:48:36.080]  any of the requests for admissions because it was under civil rules and this is criminal.
[01:48:36.080 --> 01:48:40.480]  The judge granted her a motion without me being able to respond to it.
[01:48:40.480 --> 01:48:46.560]  Other than that, I want to try to get a root of prohibition out in the morning and I'm
[01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.560]  trying to think of some issues to bring up.
[01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:54.920]  I got pretrial for next Wednesday.
[01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:55.920]  What court?
[01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:57.920]  The justice of the peace.
[01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.040]  JP court, prosecuting attorney?
[01:49:00.040 --> 01:49:02.600]  Yeah, county attorney.
[01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:06.440]  Is there an information on filing the record?
[01:49:06.440 --> 01:49:09.240]  It's just a complaint.
[01:49:09.240 --> 01:49:12.520]  Then the court's acting without jurisdiction, you should be filing charges against both
[01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:13.520]  of them.
[01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:14.520]  I have.
[01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:20.920]  I filed probably like 025 criminal complaints with the...
[01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:23.320]  Okay, you moved to disqualify.
[01:49:23.320 --> 01:49:32.680]  I didn't offer David a prejudice to disqualify the judge to get her off the bench but I think
[01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:33.680]  that she's still good.
[01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:39.040]  I did a counterclaim a long time ago and then after I filed that, I did a motion to recuse
[01:49:39.040 --> 01:49:43.640]  the judge and of course she hasn't stepped down, keeps issuing these orders.
[01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:49.720]  Well a recusal the judge can refuse to accept, a disqualification legally they can't.
[01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:55.920]  Once you file criminal charges against the judge, the judge has a stake in the case.
[01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:57.960]  So if you have filed a...
[01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:00.600]  Have you filed a countersuit against the court?
[01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:04.600]  Yeah, I haven't filed it properly, I just filed it within the file but I haven't actually
[01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:15.040]  served the parties yet as far as civil suit goes but it's in the file of the court docket.
[01:50:15.040 --> 01:50:19.800]  You might want to, it'll cost you a little bit extra, but file in the county in the district
[01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:20.800]  court.
[01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:25.680]  Yeah, I need to do that, I was going to do that here shortly but right now I want to
[01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:29.080]  do this writ of prohibition, trying to in the morning to go to the next higher court
[01:50:29.080 --> 01:50:31.320]  but the thing is, I think the next higher...
[01:50:31.320 --> 01:50:36.920]  We only got two appeals here, we got the justice piece gets an appeal or a trial de novo in
[01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:39.920]  the district court and then the district court goes to the supreme court and that's all we
[01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:40.920]  got.
[01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:46.320]  I've been filing all these criminal complaints with the district court and petition to convene
[01:50:46.320 --> 01:50:54.240]  the grand jury because we haven't had a grand jury in Montana convened since 1975 and so
[01:50:54.240 --> 01:50:58.760]  it's kind of corruption going, a lot of corruption that they can have here.
[01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:02.280]  So all these criminal complaints have been filed with the next district judge and I don't
[01:51:02.280 --> 01:51:06.800]  really want to file a writ of prohibition with him because he was named in my countersuit
[01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:12.400]  as well and I don't know if I can go to the supreme court to file my writ.
[01:51:12.400 --> 01:51:14.560]  We should have a court of appeals.
[01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.560]  No, there's not, just district court and supreme court.
[01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:25.080]  Supreme did go to the supreme court for writ of mandamus, ordering the district court to
[01:51:25.080 --> 01:51:30.480]  order the JP court to do what is, to disqualify himself.
[01:51:30.480 --> 01:51:35.720]  Okay, would it be good to file one with the district court and one with the supreme court
[01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:37.600]  at the same time?
[01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:44.960]  No, if you've filed, if you've already, you've disqualified the district court by civil action
[01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:48.240]  and have you filed criminal charges against the district judge?
[01:51:48.240 --> 01:51:49.840]  No, I haven't yet.
[01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.240]  Okay, but you filed a civil action naming the district judge.
[01:51:53.240 --> 01:51:54.240]  Yeah.
[01:51:54.240 --> 01:51:56.680]  Then the district judge is disqualified.
[01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:57.680]  Okay.
[01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:00.880]  Go to the next hire.
[01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:01.880]  Okay.
[01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:07.720]  Win, lose, or draw, you stir up enough stink and the guys hire up, especially if you start
[01:52:07.720 --> 01:52:11.960]  kicking them around, they're going to tell the guys down at the bottom, fix this, make
[01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:14.520]  it go away, make this guy happy.
[01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:17.920]  He's giving me a headache and I'm going to give you pneumonia.
[01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:18.920]  Okay.
[01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:24.840]  All right then, well, since you've only got a couple of callers, I'll let you guys go.
[01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:27.920]  All right, Stephen, call back in tomorrow night with more questions.
[01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:28.920]  We have more time.
[01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:30.240]  We do four hours on Friday nights.
[01:52:30.240 --> 01:52:31.240]  Okay, thanks.
[01:52:31.240 --> 01:52:34.880]  Okay, we're going to go to Tom in Kansas now and then Gary.
[01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:36.280]  Tom, thanks for calling in.
[01:52:36.280 --> 01:52:39.280]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:39.280 --> 01:52:40.280]  Hello.
[01:52:40.280 --> 01:52:41.840]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:44.240]  Yes, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:44.240 --> 01:52:52.360]  Well, I was traveling through Texas the middle of the month on the way to California on I-40
[01:52:52.360 --> 01:52:58.920]  and got stopped by a high patrol for speeding 10 over the speed limit.
[01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:02.800]  I did not have a valid driver's license to produce.
[01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:12.400]  I did not give him my copy of my license and when he asked for proof of identification
[01:53:12.400 --> 01:53:18.040]  on the vehicle I was driving, I provided him with a rental car record and he asked I come
[01:53:18.040 --> 01:53:23.920]  back to his cruiser and talk to him and I explained to him what had happened, that my
[01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:32.360]  license was suspended in Kansas for non-payment of the fine that I had not sold yet and so
[01:53:32.360 --> 01:53:38.680]  he wrote me up for a citation for no valid driver's license as well as 10 over the speed
[01:53:38.680 --> 01:53:46.560]  limit and when I signed it, I told him I'm not this corporate.
[01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:51.600]  Okay, we've got to move quickly, we're running out of time and do you have a question about
[01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:52.600]  that?
[01:53:52.600 --> 01:54:02.440]  Yes, is there an administrative procedure that I can file rather than making a plea
[01:54:02.440 --> 01:54:04.000]  on this ticket?
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:10.760]  You can fight it but you're going to have a tough time doing it from California.
[01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:16.000]  The problem is that no, there is no cut and dry administrative procedure because they
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:20.720]  don't like to obey the law here, that's the biggest problem.
[01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:26.440]  Now we can tell you what the law is, what it requires and what it says because technically
[01:54:26.440 --> 01:54:31.720]  speaking he had no authority to issue a ticket to you unless you were in something acting
[01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:33.600]  in commerce.
[01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:39.280]  That's right in the law, they just can't seem to read it and understand it.
[01:54:39.280 --> 01:54:43.620]  But to answer your question short and sweet, no, there is no down and dirty administrative
[01:54:43.620 --> 01:54:47.760]  procedure or anything to help you with the problem.
[01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:52.440]  The problem remains, you're going to have to fight it to get anything done over it.
[01:54:52.440 --> 01:55:00.320]  Okay, so that probably means I'll have to make at least one trip back to Texas, right?
[01:55:00.320 --> 01:55:03.760]  Unless you can get it dismissed through the mail, yes.
[01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:05.160]  Okay.
[01:55:05.160 --> 01:55:09.520]  But now the first thing would be to ask just exactly what authority does a Texas trooper
[01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:12.840]  have to enforce another state's driver's license laws?
[01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:13.840]  Right.
[01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:18.240]  Because as far as I know they don't have any.
[01:55:18.240 --> 01:55:20.040]  Okay.
[01:55:20.040 --> 01:55:24.480]  So whether or not your license is invalid is entirely between you and the issuing state,
[01:55:24.480 --> 01:55:26.720]  not the Texas trooper.
[01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:28.200]  Right.
[01:55:28.200 --> 01:55:34.280]  Yes, an officer stopped me once with expired Illinois plates and he said, aren't those
[01:55:34.280 --> 01:55:35.280]  plates expired?
[01:55:35.280 --> 01:55:40.000]  I said, yes they are, but as far as I know you can cite me with violating an Illinois
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:41.000]  law.
[01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.760]  He said, you're right, but if I see those again, I can cite you for violating Texas
[01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:46.760]  law.
[01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:48.720]  But he didn't cite me then.
[01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:50.280]  Okay, we really need to move along.
[01:55:50.280 --> 01:55:51.280]  We've got two more callers.
[01:55:51.280 --> 01:55:53.520]  Yeah, Tom, call back in tomorrow night when we have more time.
[01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:55.000]  Okay, thank you.
[01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:56.000]  Okay, thank you.
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:59.920]  Okay, I'm going to jump ahead of Gary.
[01:55:59.920 --> 01:56:02.760]  Gary, apologize, but we've got a first time caller here.
[01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:04.600]  I like to know the first time callers first.
[01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:07.440]  Carlos, quickly, what is your question?
[01:56:07.440 --> 01:56:12.320]  Well, my real question is, hi, I'm new to this show.
[01:56:12.320 --> 01:56:13.320]  Thank you.
[01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:17.120]  Maybe I would have to call tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon.
[01:56:17.120 --> 01:56:21.680]  My real question is, in California, how do we make the judges obey the judge and go with
[01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:22.680]  the honest?
[01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:26.040]  I mean, we have a problem down here on foreclosures.
[01:56:26.040 --> 01:56:28.400]  That's what our whole show is about.
[01:56:28.400 --> 01:56:30.160]  We need to hook him up with Rick.
[01:56:30.160 --> 01:56:32.240]  Yeah, he comes with an easy question.
[01:56:32.240 --> 01:56:34.640]  Why don't you ask us a hard question?
[01:56:34.640 --> 01:56:39.360]  Carlos, why don't you call in tomorrow night, and we'll more thoroughly answer your question.
[01:56:39.360 --> 01:56:41.200]  That's what basically this whole show is about.
[01:56:41.200 --> 01:56:45.960]  We need to hook him up with Rick in California, because Rick is kicking their behinds out there
[01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:46.960]  big time.
[01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:50.080]  Rick, because I'm helping people stay in their homes.
[01:56:50.080 --> 01:56:51.560]  I do it for no charge.
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:56.280]  I help them stay in their homes, and I just need to find out and learn how to fight these
[01:56:56.280 --> 01:56:58.200]  crooked guys in the black dress.
[01:56:58.200 --> 01:57:01.040]  Crooked guys in the black dress, no kidding.
[01:57:01.040 --> 01:57:03.760]  Carlos, you know our website, ruleoflawradio.com?
[01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:04.760]  Yes.
[01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:05.760]  Okay.
[01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:06.760]  All right.
[01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:09.920]  Well, we're going to be on the air tomorrow night from 8 to midnight, and hopefully Rick
[01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:12.520]  is out there listening, and Rick will call in tomorrow night, too.
[01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:13.520]  We've got Rick's number.
[01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:16.520]  Randy, let's call Rick tomorrow during the day and tell him to hook up with this guy.
[01:57:16.520 --> 01:57:17.520]  What's his last name?
[01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:18.520]  I'm not sure.
[01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:19.520]  I can't remember.
[01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:21.520]  We don't like to give out last names on the phone.
[01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:22.520]  No, don't give it up.
[01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:23.520]  Don't give it up.
[01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:24.520]  On the air.
[01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:25.520]  Okay, listen.
[01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:26.840]  Call back in tomorrow night, Carlos, and we'll talk to you longer.
[01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:27.840]  Thank you.
[01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:28.840]  Okay.
[01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:29.840]  All right.
[01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:30.840]  We're going to go now to Gary.
[01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:33.840]  Okay, Gary, you've got about one minute.
[01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:38.480]  Okay, and I'll address the question in seconds.
[01:57:38.480 --> 01:57:46.480]  The question that maybe can be answered is, do ordinances, counter ordinances, have to
[01:57:46.480 --> 01:57:47.480]  have regulations?
[01:57:47.480 --> 01:57:51.400]  Do they have to apply with administrative procedures of law?
[01:57:51.400 --> 01:57:53.920]  Therefore, Hank, you probably answered that.
[01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:55.400]  Thank you.
[01:57:55.400 --> 01:58:01.280]  Well, based upon what I went over first at the beginning, the fact that the Texas Constitution
[01:58:01.280 --> 01:58:07.720]  requires an enacting clause in all laws means right off the bat that any ordinance, it does
[01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:10.240]  not have the effect of law in Texas.
[01:58:10.240 --> 01:58:14.760]  If your state constitution has an enactment clause in your state, I'd be willing to bet
[01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:17.560]  the same thing would apply.
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:19.560]  Thank you very much, Eddie.
[01:58:19.560 --> 01:58:20.560]  Yes, sir.
[01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:21.560]  Wow.
[01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:22.560]  We made it.
[01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:24.560]  We took all the calls.
[01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:25.560]  We did it.
[01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:31.240]  Okay, folks, we will be back tomorrow night, eight to midnight Central Time.
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