ROL_2010-04-23_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:10.520]  The U.S. Wednesday ruled out recognizing North Korea as a nuclear power after the communist
[00:10.520 --> 00:17.560]  state said it was willing to join global disarmament efforts if treated as an equal partner.
[00:17.560 --> 00:22.080]  The U.S. appeared Thursday to rule out an early withdrawal of its nuclear weapons from
[00:22.080 --> 00:27.600]  Europe and said if it cut its arsenal it would want Russia to move its arms further from
[00:27.600 --> 00:29.120]  NATO nations.
[00:29.120 --> 00:34.240]  The stance sketched out by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will please former Soviet
[00:34.240 --> 00:40.600]  satellites, now members of NATO, who view tactical nuclear weapons as critical to deterring
[00:40.600 --> 00:41.600]  Russia.
[00:41.600 --> 00:47.520]  U.S. envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell held talks Friday with Benjamin Netanyahu
[00:47.520 --> 00:52.840]  despite the Israeli Prime Minister's rejection of White House demands for a freeze on Jewish
[00:52.840 --> 00:54.400]  settlements in East Jerusalem.
[00:54.400 --> 01:00.000]  Both the U.S. and the Palestinians are calling for a halt on construction as a precondition
[01:00.000 --> 01:07.040]  for a resumption of peace talks with Israel.
[01:07.040 --> 01:11.880]  Massey Energy, the coal giant that runs the upper big branch mine, has a reputation for
[01:11.880 --> 01:17.280]  intimidating its workers into compliance that takes the form of silence, particularly when
[01:17.280 --> 01:19.520]  the subject revolves around safety.
[01:19.520 --> 01:24.400]  The Washington Independent says the reason is clear, Massey is the economic engine in
[01:24.400 --> 01:29.200]  parts of West Virginia and many workers fear grumbling could leave them unemployed.
[01:29.200 --> 01:34.080]  Chuck Nelson, a former Massey miner who has since become an environmental activist with
[01:34.080 --> 01:39.600]  the Ohio Valley Environmental Coalition said, quote, Massey's already told these guys you're
[01:39.600 --> 01:44.760]  not talking to no reporters, you're not saying nothing about our safety record or you won't
[01:44.760 --> 01:46.040]  have a job.
[01:46.040 --> 01:51.480]  Danny Tyler, an electrician who has contracted with Massey and now runs a website advocating
[01:51.480 --> 01:57.280]  the end of mountaintop mining said, quote, Massey owns a lot of little tiny outfits adding
[01:57.280 --> 02:01.320]  if you get five from one, you're not working anywhere on Coal River.
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[02:06.360 --> 02:12.080]  Goldman Sachs's connections to the Obama administration are raising eyebrows at a time when Washington
[02:12.080 --> 02:15.680]  and Wall Street are dueling over finance reform.
[02:15.680 --> 02:20.840]  While Goldman Sachs's lawyers negotiated with the Securities and Exchange Commission over
[02:20.840 --> 02:26.760]  civil fraud charges, White House Log Show CEO Lloyd Blankfein traveled to Washington
[02:26.760 --> 02:33.240]  for at least two events with Barack Obama who received $994,000 in campaign donations
[02:33.240 --> 02:35.080]  from Goldman employees.
[02:35.080 --> 02:39.240]  He also met twice with Obama's top economic advisor, Larry Summers.
[02:39.240 --> 02:44.960]  SEC Chairwoman Mary Shapiro said Wednesday the SEC doesn't coordinate enforcement actions
[02:44.960 --> 02:47.520]  with the White House or other political bodies.
[02:47.520 --> 02:52.320]  Meanwhile, Goldman is retaining former Obama White House counsel, Gregory Craig.
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[02:57.840 --> 03:08.840]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
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[03:09.840 --> 03:16.840]  Well, I received my remedy today, came in a box, just like to say, I love you, I love
[03:39.840 --> 03:40.840]  you.
[03:40.840 --> 03:47.400]  Okay, we are back.
[03:47.400 --> 03:53.720]  Whatever's good for the gander is good for the goose here on the Rule of Law.
[03:53.720 --> 04:00.240]  We've got Jim in Texas and then Gunther after that, so go ahead Jim, please continue.
[04:00.240 --> 04:09.920]  Yeah, my next question was on Mr. Mears' class or CD.
[04:09.920 --> 04:14.480]  Is that the same CD that you had had a while back?
[04:14.480 --> 04:15.480]  Yes, it is.
[04:15.480 --> 04:16.480]  There's a price difference.
[04:16.480 --> 04:17.880]  Yes, there's a price difference.
[04:17.880 --> 04:19.880]  He raised his price.
[04:19.880 --> 04:20.880]  Oh.
[04:20.880 --> 04:27.280]  Yeah, because what was happening is that he had made prior arrangements with some other
[04:27.280 --> 04:34.120]  people to sell his CD at the current price that's posted on our website, and then he
[04:34.120 --> 04:38.880]  was selling it for half of that, and what was happening was that everyone was just coming
[04:38.880 --> 04:44.720]  here to buy it, and it was basically kind of like undermining some previous agreements
[04:44.720 --> 04:48.880]  he had already made, so he had to just make the price the same across the board on every
[04:48.880 --> 04:49.880]  outlet.
[04:49.880 --> 04:52.200]  So I didn't save money fast enough.
[04:52.200 --> 04:53.800]  Sorry, but you know what?
[04:53.800 --> 04:55.880]  It's still worth 300 bucks, I promise you.
[04:55.880 --> 04:57.200]  I understand that.
[04:57.200 --> 04:58.400]  There's two parts to it.
[04:58.400 --> 04:59.760]  Is that correct now?
[04:59.760 --> 05:04.120]  Well, it's actually turning into a three-part package, and there's going to be a discount
[05:04.120 --> 05:06.360]  for people who buy all three parts.
[05:06.360 --> 05:13.720]  The course one is how to deal with the debt collectors, the third-party debt collectors.
[05:13.720 --> 05:20.000]  Course two is how to deal with the creditors, the original creditors, and course three is
[05:20.000 --> 05:26.520]  how to deal with the credit reporting agencies.
[05:26.520 --> 05:29.400]  And right now, we have course one and two available.
[05:29.400 --> 05:34.520]  He's still working on course three, and there is a package deal if you want to buy both
[05:34.520 --> 05:35.520]  courses.
[05:35.520 --> 05:39.960]  Yeah, so I just saw that on the website, because I was getting ready to order it, and I saw
[05:39.960 --> 05:42.280]  that, and I was in sticker shock, I guess.
[05:42.280 --> 05:43.280]  I'm sorry.
[05:43.280 --> 05:45.520]  Yeah, it's his call.
[05:45.520 --> 05:50.880]  I mean, you know, it's his package, and so he gets to set the price.
[05:50.880 --> 05:54.080]  I'm not saying... I mean, I'm sure it's still worth it.
[05:54.080 --> 05:56.360]  It's absolutely worth it, believe me.
[05:56.360 --> 06:01.960]  Because if you don't do it this way, then what ends up happening is that the only other
[06:01.960 --> 06:08.760]  way you can deal with credit problems is basically to make a deal with them, like some kind of
[06:08.760 --> 06:15.120]  a payment plan, and so you enter into another contract with them, and if you're one day
[06:15.120 --> 06:18.960]  late, one false move, and the hippie gets it, so to speak.
[06:18.960 --> 06:20.640]  Yeah, you've got a contract.
[06:20.640 --> 06:24.720]  Yeah, you've got a new contract with them, and it's very stringent, and you end up paying
[06:24.720 --> 06:29.960]  more over time, and the bottom line is these guys are fraudulent, okay?
[06:29.960 --> 06:32.200]  It's just like with the mortgage companies.
[06:32.200 --> 06:36.280]  They're just totally fraudulent, and so it's not about whether you owe the money or not.
[06:36.280 --> 06:40.720]  It's about the fact that they've ripped you off, and that they've broken a lot of laws,
[06:40.720 --> 06:47.640]  and so basically the strategy is that you sue them for all these civil rights violations
[06:47.640 --> 06:56.120]  that get racked up, and so how the debt goes away is that part of the settlement agreement
[06:56.120 --> 07:05.080]  is that the debt collectors and the creditors, whichever the case may be, they agree to retire
[07:05.080 --> 07:10.680]  the debt is what it's termed, what the terminology is, that they retire the debt, and that means
[07:10.680 --> 07:14.920]  they are not going to pursue it anymore because they've already written it off their books
[07:14.920 --> 07:15.920]  anyway.
[07:15.920 --> 07:22.320]  After 180 days, they charge it off to their capital gains tax, all right?
[07:22.320 --> 07:25.800]  So it ends up being a tax break for them to the IRS.
[07:25.800 --> 07:27.280]  They pay less taxes.
[07:27.280 --> 07:31.320]  Whatever the debt is, they just write it off against their capital gains tax.
[07:31.320 --> 07:36.400]  The federal government gives them an incentive, and so it's technically not even on the books
[07:36.400 --> 07:42.240]  anymore, and so it's actually illegal for them to even attempt to collect the debt anymore
[07:42.240 --> 07:47.200]  because once they write it off, it's gone, period, but we don't even go there.
[07:47.200 --> 07:51.760]  Mike Mears doesn't even need to go there, and his method, it's not about the debt.
[07:51.760 --> 07:56.120]  It's about the civil rights violations that they have committed, the laws that they've
[07:56.120 --> 08:02.560]  broken, and so you sue them not because technically they're breaking the law by even attempting
[08:02.560 --> 08:06.560]  to collect the debt anymore, but you sue them because of all the civil rights violations,
[08:06.560 --> 08:13.400]  and part of the settlement agreement is that they agree to retire the debt, and they agree
[08:13.400 --> 08:19.520]  not to sell the information regarding the debt to anyone else anymore because technically
[08:19.520 --> 08:21.120]  they can't sell the debt.
[08:21.120 --> 08:25.320]  What they do is how these third-party debt collectors keep coming and coming and coming
[08:25.320 --> 08:30.440]  is that every six months, they technically sell the information on the debt, your Social
[08:30.440 --> 08:37.880]  Security number, the account number, when the debt was created and accrued and blah,
[08:37.880 --> 08:41.840]  blah, blah, and your address and all these things, and so then these third-party debt
[08:41.840 --> 08:47.480]  collectors attempt to collect on it after they have bought the information relating
[08:47.480 --> 08:52.280]  to it, but the original creditor's already charged off anyway, and so then it just keeps
[08:52.280 --> 08:56.480]  changing hands and keeps changing hands over and over every six months, and so that's why
[08:56.480 --> 08:58.360]  you have to go after them.
[08:58.360 --> 09:03.400]  You can't just say, well, you know, I'm just going to blow it off, and then if they don't
[09:03.400 --> 09:07.640]  sue you, no big deal, because what will happen is that six months later they'll sell it again
[09:07.640 --> 09:13.060]  and again and again, and eventually some debt collector somewhere down the line is going
[09:13.060 --> 09:17.560]  to end up suing you over it, and not only that, it will never go off your credit record
[09:17.560 --> 09:22.120]  because every time it gets sold every six months, then they enter it on your credit
[09:22.120 --> 09:27.000]  report again, and so you have to stop the cycle at some point if you ever want it to
[09:27.000 --> 09:34.640]  end, and so with this method, you go after the debt collector first, okay, that's the
[09:34.640 --> 09:36.800]  first thing you do is you go after the debt collector.
[09:36.800 --> 09:40.280]  If there is a debt collector, if you're still dealing with the original creditor, well,
[09:40.280 --> 09:45.120]  then you go after the original creditor, but most of the time this sort of thing is
[09:45.120 --> 09:49.160]  handled by a debt collector, so you go after the third-party debt collector first, and
[09:49.160 --> 09:53.680]  you get the settlement and agreement with him, and then you go after the creditor to
[09:53.680 --> 09:58.640]  keep them from selling it anymore, and then you go after the credit agencies to get it
[09:58.640 --> 10:05.120]  off the credit record, and you know, Mike and us, we are not advocating that people
[10:05.120 --> 10:09.760]  go out and get credit cards and run them up to the hilt and then bail on them because
[10:09.760 --> 10:16.040]  that's fraud, okay, but we understand, and he understands that people get in trouble,
[10:16.040 --> 10:21.240]  all right, people do the best they can, but sometimes people lose their jobs or they have
[10:21.240 --> 10:27.320]  medical expenses, crises, they lose a family member, everybody gets into trouble sometimes,
[10:27.320 --> 10:33.280]  and the way they set this whole debt credit system up to begin with is totally fraudulent,
[10:33.280 --> 10:38.640]  and so if somebody does happen to run into a problem, there are ways to deal with it,
[10:38.640 --> 10:44.640]  and this is one very proven successful way of dealing with it, and it takes a while,
[10:44.640 --> 10:49.560]  and he doesn't want to just get people, rush people to the end to the point where you're
[10:49.560 --> 10:54.640]  dealing with the credit agencies, because actually you want these guys to be making
[10:54.640 --> 10:59.000]  negative entries on your credit report, because that's another thing, if they keep making
[10:59.000 --> 11:03.640]  entries on your credit report after you've disputed, well then those are more fines,
[11:03.640 --> 11:09.800]  those are more broken laws, okay, and if they don't put on your credit report that the account
[11:09.800 --> 11:15.080]  is in dispute after you've disputed it, then there's another violation, and so you want
[11:15.080 --> 11:21.240]  them to trip up, you want them to be harassing you and harassing the credit agencies and
[11:21.240 --> 11:26.200]  harassing inside your credit report, because that's just more and more violations to sue
[11:26.200 --> 11:32.080]  for and more leverage for you to get a settlement out of them, and then after you get the settlement
[11:32.080 --> 11:37.720]  agreement from them and the creditor, then you go after the credit reporting bureaus
[11:37.720 --> 11:42.040]  and get them to remove everything off your credit report, and then you have a new life
[11:42.040 --> 11:46.520]  and you get to start all over, and the whole process could take a year or so, or maybe
[11:46.520 --> 11:54.920]  six months at the least, but it's very thorough and a very proven method, and for him to charge
[11:54.920 --> 12:01.880]  150 bucks really was underselling what his course, I mean, jurisdictionary is 250 bucks,
[12:01.880 --> 12:08.760]  okay, the traffic seminar is 250 bucks, so it really is people, I mean, we have to make
[12:08.760 --> 12:15.560]  a living too, so he went through a school of hard knocks, so did Eddie, so did Randy,
[12:15.560 --> 12:20.680]  so did Frederick Graves, and it really is worth it, because we're offering people a
[12:20.680 --> 12:26.560]  lot for a very little amount of money, and we're just basically asking in return just
[12:26.560 --> 12:31.760]  the bare minimum to keep the radio network going and to feed our families, you know?
[12:31.760 --> 12:39.520]  I understand 100% that he has every right to sell for anything he wanted, and I was
[12:39.520 --> 12:46.760]  just surprised that I didn't notice it, and I was just going to ask if it was the same
[12:46.760 --> 12:51.520]  course or if sometimes people have a different one that all of a sudden comes up and just
[12:51.520 --> 12:54.800]  like the new, you know, the traffic seminar.
[12:54.800 --> 12:59.280]  Well the second course is new, you know, it's how to deal with the creditors, the first
[12:59.280 --> 13:03.240]  course is the same, but yeah, there was a window of a few months there where people
[13:03.240 --> 13:06.040]  could have gotten it for 150, but no more, sorry.
[13:06.040 --> 13:10.280]  No, and that's fine, and I am sure that it will be worth it when I get it, I just have
[13:10.280 --> 13:13.360]  to save a little longer, so.
[13:13.360 --> 13:21.060]  I also had one question, I don't know, and maybe I should talk to Harlan, I've got some
[13:21.060 --> 13:30.520]  extra books for Texas Rules of Civil Trials, Property Codes, they're not brand new, one
[13:30.520 --> 13:38.840]  of them is the 2009, I've got the newer versions now, and I was going to get rid of them and
[13:38.840 --> 13:45.920]  I'd like to get them to somebody that needs them or can use them instead of a bookstore,
[13:45.920 --> 13:51.880]  you know, like, and.
[13:51.880 --> 13:54.120]  Harlan would probably be a good place.
[13:54.120 --> 13:59.360]  That's what I thought, no, I think I'll.
[13:59.360 --> 14:01.840]  He can definitely find a good home.
[14:01.840 --> 14:05.520]  He could find a good home for sure, do you need anything like that Randy?
[14:05.520 --> 14:08.040]  No, I'm in pretty good shape right now.
[14:08.040 --> 14:12.400]  Well I've gotten all of the new O'Conners except for Evidence, which is the next one
[14:12.400 --> 14:14.480]  I'm going to get, which is.
[14:14.480 --> 14:19.000]  The only O'Conners that we don't have is O'Conner's federal criminal.
[14:19.000 --> 14:24.280]  We've got federal civil rules and Texas state civil rules and Texas criminal, but we don't
[14:24.280 --> 14:27.760]  have federal criminal, that's the only one we don't have.
[14:27.760 --> 14:35.920]  Two of the best ones I've found so far are Texas causes of action, pleadings and civil
[14:35.920 --> 14:37.480]  trials forms.
[14:37.480 --> 14:40.600]  Have you got that on disk?
[14:40.600 --> 14:41.600]  Yes.
[14:41.600 --> 14:42.600]  Good.
[14:42.600 --> 14:47.440]  Everything is, it's very simple to use, too.
[14:47.440 --> 14:54.160]  It makes it extremely easy, except for when you go through Dr. Gray's stuff, you think.
[14:54.160 --> 15:00.920]  If you're not careful, you can, in the form CD, you can get, you can go overboard, and
[15:00.920 --> 15:02.440]  I think that's what you have to watch.
[15:02.440 --> 15:10.720]  I don't think you have to be quite as specific as what they're asking for, or they're, this
[15:10.720 --> 15:14.200]  is the way all lawyers do it, it seems like, but.
[15:14.200 --> 15:18.880]  Well, you need to read the O'Conner's, the corresponding O'Conner's book so that you'll
[15:18.880 --> 15:21.240]  know what you really need to put in there.
[15:21.240 --> 15:26.160]  If you just go by the forms, you're leaving yourself hanging.
[15:26.160 --> 15:27.160]  No, no, no.
[15:27.160 --> 15:32.440]  I mean, I have all of them and I use them together, but what I was just, I've got some
[15:32.440 --> 15:34.680]  of the older copies and that's what I was.
[15:34.680 --> 15:37.160]  Yeah, yeah, that'd be great because.
[15:37.160 --> 15:39.000]  That might go over there, so.
[15:39.000 --> 15:42.560]  People really need those, then they'll realize what chumps the attorneys are.
[15:42.560 --> 15:43.560]  Yeah.
[15:43.560 --> 15:48.280]  When they get civil trials and they want to know about a motion and they go in there,
[15:48.280 --> 15:49.280]  heck, it's got everything.
[15:49.280 --> 15:50.280]  Well, you, what you.
[15:50.280 --> 15:51.760]  It has the defense, too.
[15:51.760 --> 15:52.760]  Yeah.
[15:52.760 --> 16:00.440]  Jim, what you may want to do is donate them to the bookstore as a library, to be on library,
[16:00.440 --> 16:05.480]  so to speak, not necessarily for sale, or to give to people, and so that way people
[16:05.480 --> 16:09.600]  who don't have them can go to the bookstore and look things up.
[16:09.600 --> 16:10.600]  Sure.
[16:10.600 --> 16:13.000]  You know, as if it was sort of a library sort of thing.
[16:13.000 --> 16:14.560]  Yeah, that's a good idea.
[16:14.560 --> 16:15.560]  For reference.
[16:15.560 --> 16:20.600]  But it's not, I mean, I've already bought them, paid for them, I've just, I've got
[16:20.600 --> 16:24.720]  new ones and I know somebody can use them, so that's what I was thinking about.
[16:24.720 --> 16:28.480]  Yeah, why don't you call up Harlan and tell him you want him left at the bookstore for
[16:28.480 --> 16:29.480]  reference.
[16:29.480 --> 16:30.480]  Mm-hmm.
[16:30.480 --> 16:32.280]  That would be really good because then the whole community can benefit.
[16:32.280 --> 16:34.080]  All right, well, I'm going to get off here.
[16:34.080 --> 16:35.080]  Sorry, I took too long.
[16:35.080 --> 16:36.080]  Oh, no, you're fine.
[16:36.080 --> 16:37.080]  And you guys have a good evening.
[16:37.080 --> 16:38.080]  Okay, thanks, Jim.
[16:38.080 --> 16:39.080]  Bye-bye.
[16:39.080 --> 16:40.080]  Bye-bye.
[16:40.080 --> 16:46.240]  Okay, when we get back on the other side, we're going to go to Gunther in Colorado.
[16:46.240 --> 16:53.640]  After that, we've got open phone lines, so callers, if you want to call in, 512-646-1984.
[16:53.640 --> 17:01.240]  We'll be right back.
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[18:29.080 --> 18:55.880]  I just wanted to pass along a few more items as far as I wanted to get more educated since
[18:55.880 --> 18:59.760]  that you have a little bit of time, which I really do appreciate your efforts that you
[18:59.760 --> 19:02.120]  put forth to everybody.
[19:02.120 --> 19:11.400]  Basically, I got arrested for the second time for filing paperwork against the courts.
[19:11.400 --> 19:17.040]  We won't make mention of who or where, but obviously in Colorado, and they felt that
[19:17.040 --> 19:22.040]  one of the, when I file everything, I file it for public record as well at the clerk
[19:22.040 --> 19:25.480]  and recorder's office, so that really kicks them off.
[19:25.480 --> 19:31.680]  Because they're all in affidavit form, and with my understanding, all that can be admissible
[19:31.680 --> 19:35.840]  on any court of law anywhere since it is in affidavit form.
[19:35.840 --> 19:39.960]  But what I was going to say is they came and they had arrested me at my house with a private
[19:39.960 --> 19:46.840]  property, no trespassing sign out front, no warrant, threw me in their vehicle.
[19:46.840 --> 19:55.040]  I was quick enough to call 911 and let them know that I was being kidnapped by the police,
[19:55.040 --> 19:57.560]  and I'm sure they all had a good laugh out of that one.
[19:57.560 --> 20:00.680]  I don't know about 911, but the police probably did.
[20:00.680 --> 20:05.440]  So they took me down, threw me in jail, never produced a warrant while they were booking
[20:05.440 --> 20:12.120]  me, kept me there for the weekend, actually for four days, and then decided to throw me
[20:12.120 --> 20:19.640]  in with a public defender in a closed courtroom with my wife present, a very close friend
[20:19.640 --> 20:23.840]  of mine and my son.
[20:23.840 --> 20:31.240]  In this process, all they did was say that I, because of my paperwork, with the way it
[20:31.240 --> 20:38.560]  was stated, I was violating my bond when I had a PR bond, which is a personal recognizance
[20:38.560 --> 20:46.040]  for those who don't know, and so they decided to keep the bond but strap me with a cute
[20:46.040 --> 20:51.840]  little bracelet around my leg now, another violation of my rights, which I'm told there's
[20:51.840 --> 20:56.680]  a good possibility they have microphones in those as well, not that I'm making any statement
[20:56.680 --> 20:57.680]  of any kind.
[20:57.680 --> 21:01.680]  It's just a passing thought that someone gave me.
[21:01.680 --> 21:02.680]  What can I do?
[21:02.680 --> 21:07.040]  My court case comes up on the 30th of this month.
[21:07.040 --> 21:14.000]  They have consistently and repeatedly violated my civil rights, not to mention constitutional.
[21:14.000 --> 21:21.720]  I've made them aware of this, I've let them know the best way I can through paperwork.
[21:21.720 --> 21:29.840]  I even actually filed, this was interesting, went into court a month, no, two months ago,
[21:29.840 --> 21:37.320]  and the judge was up there, and he basically, it was a pre-hearing, and I handed him a piece
[21:37.320 --> 21:38.600]  of paper.
[21:38.600 --> 21:48.120]  The piece of paper on it was written, UCC 1-308, originally UCC 1-207, which means reservation
[21:48.120 --> 21:49.120]  of rights.
[21:49.120 --> 21:58.280]  Well, that set him back a good step, and he actually postponed the hearing for six weeks.
[21:58.280 --> 22:04.000]  I also turned in a motion to dismiss on the trespassing charges, which I was initially
[22:04.000 --> 22:09.520]  arrested for without a warrant, and I have the discovery on that, too, and all the discovery
[22:09.520 --> 22:19.880]  shows is affidavit for arrest warrant, and then the actual warrant never showed up once
[22:19.880 --> 22:26.640]  I got my first discovery, but all of a sudden showed up after I looked at the paperwork
[22:26.640 --> 22:34.200]  the day before I went to court before, and it was not signed, it was stamped by a judge,
[22:34.200 --> 22:39.680]  so there was not actually a signature on there, there was just a stamp on there, and neither
[22:39.680 --> 22:45.120]  time was I ever brought before a judge immediately with you a warrant or anything else like that.
[22:45.120 --> 22:50.240]  My question is, is do I write a tort up, and if so, how do I do it?
[22:50.240 --> 22:54.280]  How can I get this dismissed finally, since they're ignoring me and they're not putting
[22:54.280 --> 22:56.920]  the dismissal through per my request?
[22:56.920 --> 23:03.720]  Oh, the reason I asked for the dismissal was I had put in a freedom of discovery to the
[23:03.720 --> 23:12.800]  DA and gave the DA 21 days to answer the freedom of discovery, which she did not, so then I
[23:12.800 --> 23:18.960]  put in a default notice, and with that I put in a motion to dismiss.
[23:18.960 --> 23:24.240]  Now I am pro se, so obviously I've had no lawyers, but now they're trying to push upon
[23:24.240 --> 23:31.520]  me a public defender to take over, so basically, you know, trying to deprive me of my rights
[23:31.520 --> 23:32.840]  and either cut a deal.
[23:32.840 --> 23:39.400]  Okay, hold on, I'm going to suggest you take the public defender, and the first thing you
[23:39.400 --> 23:45.960]  tell the public defender is I have all these motions in here addressing my rights, you
[23:45.960 --> 23:53.360]  fail to adequately adjudicate just one of them, I'll file a bar grievance against you.
[23:53.360 --> 23:58.880]  Each one you fail to properly adjudicate, I'll file a bar grievance against you, and
[23:58.880 --> 24:02.720]  if you go to the judge and try to get the judge to remove you from this case, I'll file
[24:02.720 --> 24:05.800]  a bar grievance against you for that, and then I'll sue the judge when he takes you
[24:05.800 --> 24:08.920]  off the case.
[24:08.920 --> 24:11.080]  That's how you get your attorney working for you.
[24:11.080 --> 24:14.440]  Okay, run that by me again, you fail to adjudicate?
[24:14.440 --> 24:21.080]  If he fails to adjudicate just one of your due process rights, you file a bar grievance
[24:21.080 --> 24:28.600]  against him, and then you'll file another one for each one he fails to properly adjudicate.
[24:28.600 --> 24:38.480]  Well, the problem is, generally when you have court appointing counsel, they're doing that
[24:38.480 --> 24:42.920]  because they don't have higher paying business.
[24:42.920 --> 24:47.600]  If they're older, they're chumps, and they suck at their business, you know, they can't
[24:47.600 --> 24:50.760]  take care of the clients, so they don't have a client base.
[24:50.760 --> 24:51.760]  Right.
[24:51.760 --> 24:57.760]  If they're young, they're just starting, and your first year of practice, you get one bar
[24:57.760 --> 25:02.480]  grievance, they'll cancel your bail, practice insurance immediately.
[25:02.480 --> 25:06.200]  This is the attorney's real weak spot.
[25:06.200 --> 25:07.600]  Okay.
[25:07.600 --> 25:15.880]  And once the attorney knows that you know, he's got a problem.
[25:15.880 --> 25:23.160]  So this is going to get him working for you, but then in all fairness, if you'll send me
[25:23.160 --> 25:25.600]  an email, I'll send you my notice in demand.
[25:25.600 --> 25:26.600]  Okay.
[25:26.600 --> 25:31.320]  I filed it in my case, and my attorney looked at it, and he said, well, he didn't understand
[25:31.320 --> 25:32.320]  what it was.
[25:32.320 --> 25:36.520]  I said, well, remember when I demanded that you adjudicate every one of my due process
[25:36.520 --> 25:37.520]  rights?
[25:37.520 --> 25:38.520]  He said, yes, I do.
[25:38.520 --> 25:42.200]  And you expressed that you were afraid that you'd wind up getting disbarred.
[25:42.200 --> 25:43.200]  He said, yes, I did.
[25:43.200 --> 25:46.000]  I said, well, and I told you I'd protect you.
[25:46.000 --> 25:47.000]  He said, yes, you did.
[25:47.000 --> 25:48.000]  That's your protection.
[25:48.000 --> 25:52.120]  And he looked at it, and he said, I don't understand.
[25:52.120 --> 25:58.600]  Well, I just told the judge that you have an unruly client, and the judge is going to
[25:58.600 --> 26:05.560]  wind up having to protect you from the client instead of using you to screw the client.
[26:05.560 --> 26:09.520]  Now he's got to protect you from the client because he's the one that appointed you to
[26:09.520 --> 26:15.320]  represent me, and now I'm fixing to kick your behind, and he's got to keep me from doing
[26:15.320 --> 26:16.320]  it.
[26:16.320 --> 26:23.360]  And the attorney sat back and thought a minute, and he said, you've got a good point there.
[26:23.360 --> 26:29.680]  So let the judge know, the judge already knows that he'll have an unruly client, but what
[26:29.680 --> 26:36.120]  he doesn't know is he's wanting to appoint counsel so he can use counsel to screw you.
[26:36.120 --> 26:41.640]  He's not going to realize that you're laying in wait for counsel.
[26:41.640 --> 26:47.240]  One other thing, counsel is going to ask to be removed from the case, and you're going
[26:47.240 --> 26:50.840]  to go to the judge and say, don't you dare remove him from that case.
[26:50.840 --> 26:52.520]  He's my counsel of choice.
[26:52.520 --> 26:56.240]  I'm under private contract with him, and you're to butt out.
[26:56.240 --> 27:00.240]  You have no authority to interfere with the contract, and he's going to tell you that
[27:00.240 --> 27:01.880]  you don't have a contract with him.
[27:01.880 --> 27:06.040]  He has a contract with the state, and you're going to say, yes, he does.
[27:06.040 --> 27:12.280]  But I am the intended third-party beneficiary, and I have standing to address the contract.
[27:12.280 --> 27:15.280]  So butt out.
[27:15.280 --> 27:17.280]  The judge won't like that.
[27:17.280 --> 27:24.360]  Okay, this goes to the ministerial duty of the court, and you make the accusation that
[27:24.360 --> 27:30.160]  he has no subject matter, he has no immunity from violation of a ministerial duty.
[27:30.160 --> 27:31.160]  Okay.
[27:31.160 --> 27:36.040]  You know, you won't be able to sue him, if you try to sue him, they'll wind up throwing
[27:36.040 --> 27:39.640]  it out, but you can sure make their life in misery.
[27:39.640 --> 27:42.240]  Have you found out where the judge's bond is kept?
[27:42.240 --> 27:43.240]  Who has?
[27:43.240 --> 27:44.240]  Not yet.
[27:44.240 --> 27:45.240]  No, how do I do that?
[27:45.240 --> 27:47.880]  A court clerk can usually tell you.
[27:47.880 --> 27:51.000]  Ask the clerk, who insures all these public officials?
[27:51.000 --> 27:59.360]  If you say bond, it might tensor up, but if you ask for insurance, that should be easier.
[27:59.360 --> 28:05.040]  Anything you feel like the judge did wrong, a judicial conduct complaint against him,
[28:05.040 --> 28:11.560]  a bar grievance against him, and a claim to risk management against him, or whatever they
[28:11.560 --> 28:14.880]  call it there, a claim against his insurance.
[28:14.880 --> 28:17.080]  This is where they're weak.
[28:17.080 --> 28:19.360]  Claim against insurance.
[28:19.360 --> 28:21.640]  They don't control that part.
[28:21.640 --> 28:23.840]  And what are the other two?
[28:23.840 --> 28:29.920]  Judicial conduct complaint and the bar grievance.
[28:29.920 --> 28:33.080]  Conduct complaint.
[28:33.080 --> 28:39.840]  And you should be able to find this on the state website, or you'll have a Colorado
[28:39.840 --> 28:43.960]  Bar Association website, you'll be able to find the complaints on there.
[28:43.960 --> 28:53.200]  One caveat, look at the canons of ethics for both the judge and the attorneys.
[28:53.200 --> 28:54.200]  Okay.
[28:54.200 --> 29:00.240]  When you make your claim, make it in the terms of a violation of a specific canon.
[29:00.240 --> 29:01.240]  Okay.
[29:01.240 --> 29:05.400]  Because here in Texas, they've started saying, well, if you don't state a specific canon,
[29:05.400 --> 29:07.680]  we consider it a request for mediation.
[29:07.680 --> 29:10.720]  They're trying to shield them.
[29:10.720 --> 29:16.600]  So we make it directly, accuse them of violating a very specific canon, then they don't get
[29:16.600 --> 29:20.000]  to do that song and dance.
[29:20.000 --> 29:21.440]  But in the end, it shouldn't matter.
[29:21.440 --> 29:25.080]  It's going to count against their insurance anyhow.
[29:25.080 --> 29:26.080]  Good.
[29:26.080 --> 29:33.560]  Do I get your email, or do you want me to give you mine after?
[29:33.560 --> 29:34.560]  Mine's on the website.
[29:34.560 --> 29:35.560]  You can find me on there.
[29:35.560 --> 29:36.560]  First name?
[29:36.560 --> 29:37.560]  Randy.
[29:37.560 --> 29:38.560]  Okay.
[29:38.560 --> 29:39.560]  All right, Randy.
[29:39.560 --> 29:42.560]  I'll go to the website, Talk Radio.
[29:42.560 --> 29:43.560]  No, it's ruleoflawradio.com.
[29:43.560 --> 29:44.560]  Ruleoflawradio.com.
[29:44.560 --> 29:45.560]  Got it.
[29:45.560 --> 29:50.560]  Thank you very much.
[29:50.560 --> 29:51.560]  You are welcome.
[29:51.560 --> 29:52.560]  Okay, thanks.
[29:52.560 --> 29:53.560]  It's always a pleasure.
[29:53.560 --> 29:54.560]  Bye-bye.
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[31:25.560 --> 31:48.560]  Okay, folks.
[31:48.560 --> 31:50.560]  We don't have any calls on the board.
[31:50.560 --> 31:53.560]  This is highly unusual for Friday night.
[31:53.560 --> 31:57.560]  The stream numbers are looking pretty good, so I know you guys are out there, and I know
[31:57.560 --> 31:59.560]  we're on all those AM and FMs.
[31:59.560 --> 32:05.560]  So in the meantime, since no one is calling in, Randy's going to talk about how to kick
[32:05.560 --> 32:07.560]  some attorneys behind.
[32:07.560 --> 32:08.560]  Yes.
[32:08.560 --> 32:13.560]  I'm going to kind of talk about the strategy.
[32:13.560 --> 32:21.560]  And with the mortgage stuff I'm doing, what I'm doing is looking for the weaknesses.
[32:21.560 --> 32:24.560]  And Sun Tzu.
[32:24.560 --> 32:26.560]  This is his strategy.
[32:26.560 --> 32:29.560]  Find your opponent's weaknesses.
[32:29.560 --> 32:32.560]  Do not play to their strengths.
[32:32.560 --> 32:36.560]  So this is war, and we're playing by the art of war.
[32:36.560 --> 32:45.560]  Not only do we want to find his weaknesses and play to them, we need to do it artfully.
[32:45.560 --> 32:50.560]  It's not enough just to file a bar grievance against them.
[32:50.560 --> 32:55.560]  There's something in the human psyche.
[32:55.560 --> 32:59.560]  We need to be able to deal with their problems.
[32:59.560 --> 33:07.560]  So what I found that's very effective is give them no way to deal with the problem.
[33:07.560 --> 33:13.560]  Do not give your attorney legal advice.
[33:13.560 --> 33:16.560]  It's hard for us not to do that.
[33:16.560 --> 33:19.560]  Don't give the judge legal advice.
[33:19.560 --> 33:23.560]  We want to tell him how to cow eat the cabbage.
[33:23.560 --> 33:27.560]  And it feels better to do that.
[33:27.560 --> 33:32.560]  But when we do, we're playing into their strengths.
[33:32.560 --> 33:40.560]  What I like to do is go in, like in the criminal situation where I'm appointed an attorney,
[33:40.560 --> 33:45.560]  I kind of felt like I owed it to him to give him fair warning.
[33:45.560 --> 33:49.560]  But the judge, he gets no warning.
[33:49.560 --> 33:54.560]  Opposing counsel, no warning, no quarter.
[33:54.560 --> 34:00.560]  With the foreclosure issue, they file a lawsuit.
[34:00.560 --> 34:05.560]  The first thing opposing counsel will do is file a motion to dismiss for failure to make a claim
[34:05.560 --> 34:08.560]  on which discovery can be had.
[34:08.560 --> 34:12.560]  If you've got 50 causes of action, it doesn't make any difference.
[34:12.560 --> 34:16.560]  He's going to file that motion as a matter of course.
[34:16.560 --> 34:20.560]  So the first thing we do is file a bar grievance,
[34:20.560 --> 34:26.560]  accusing him of violating his standard of ethics and failing to speak with candor to the court,
[34:26.560 --> 34:31.560]  filing a frivolous pleading, and we move for sanctions in the court.
[34:31.560 --> 34:36.560]  We don't say anything about the bar grievance, not a peep.
[34:36.560 --> 34:41.560]  The problem he has is he can't say anything about it either.
[34:41.560 --> 34:46.560]  While a bar grievance, it goes to the bar, and it's the bar's place to adjudicate it.
[34:46.560 --> 34:51.560]  So what they've said is, well, since we have to adjudicate this, you guys can't talk about it.
[34:51.560 --> 34:58.560]  And they use that as a scam to render bar grievances secret
[34:58.560 --> 35:03.560]  so nobody can find out about how many bar grievances Trump has got.
[35:03.560 --> 35:09.560]  Like the one in California, California actually sanctioned an attorney.
[35:09.560 --> 35:18.560]  And in the letter of sanction, they said he had taken retainers from thousands of clients
[35:18.560 --> 35:23.560]  and provided them with no services.
[35:23.560 --> 35:28.560]  That's what it took just to get a sanction.
[35:28.560 --> 35:30.560]  That's pretty sad.
[35:30.560 --> 35:32.560]  I couldn't believe I read that.
[35:32.560 --> 35:33.560]  That's pretty sad.
[35:33.560 --> 35:35.560]  That was pitiful.
[35:35.560 --> 35:39.560]  They've made it secret so they can protect themselves.
[35:39.560 --> 35:42.560]  Well, it also creates their weakness.
[35:42.560 --> 35:45.560]  You file a bar grievance against the attorney on the other side,
[35:45.560 --> 35:51.560]  he gets the grievance and his malpractice insurance doubles.
[35:51.560 --> 35:54.560]  He has no control over that.
[35:54.560 --> 35:58.560]  You're playing to an area that's totally out of his control.
[35:58.560 --> 36:02.560]  You file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge.
[36:02.560 --> 36:08.560]  It goes to the judicial conduct commission and 99% of the time they'll toss it.
[36:08.560 --> 36:16.560]  However, it stays on his record forever.
[36:16.560 --> 36:21.560]  Bar grievance is much, much, much worse.
[36:21.560 --> 36:25.560]  For the judge, you also want to file against his bond.
[36:25.560 --> 36:28.560]  It has the same effect.
[36:28.560 --> 36:31.560]  The bond rating goes up.
[36:31.560 --> 36:34.560]  If the rating goes up too high, they won't insure him anymore.
[36:34.560 --> 36:37.560]  He's history.
[36:37.560 --> 36:40.560]  The attorney, though, he's much easier.
[36:40.560 --> 36:42.560]  You file against that attorney.
[36:42.560 --> 36:44.560]  Don't say you're going to file against him.
[36:44.560 --> 36:45.560]  Don't tell him.
[36:45.560 --> 36:46.560]  Don't warn him.
[36:46.560 --> 36:51.560]  The first time he knows you're unhappy is he gets a bar grievance.
[36:51.560 --> 36:56.560]  And then the foreclosure issue, we're setting them up for that.
[36:56.560 --> 37:03.560]  The client sends a QWR, the qualified written request, the lender doesn't respond to it appropriately.
[37:03.560 --> 37:07.560]  He sends them a tort letter.
[37:07.560 --> 37:13.560]  And in true Mike Mears method, the tort letter says it looks like the lawsuit.
[37:13.560 --> 37:18.560]  It has all the claims in it and says, make me whole or be sued.
[37:18.560 --> 37:20.560]  You have 10 days.
[37:20.560 --> 37:23.560]  The 11th day you file suit.
[37:23.560 --> 37:26.560]  The client tells him, these guys mean business.
[37:26.560 --> 37:32.560]  And then they file a motion to dismiss for failure to make the claim on which recovery can be had.
[37:32.560 --> 37:34.560]  He gets a bar grievance.
[37:34.560 --> 37:38.560]  He says, oh, crap.
[37:38.560 --> 37:41.560]  They set me up.
[37:41.560 --> 37:45.560]  And we say, yes, we did, bubba.
[37:45.560 --> 37:47.560]  But we never say anything to him.
[37:47.560 --> 37:52.560]  So he comes into court or, you know, every time he thinks of sending us another document,
[37:52.560 --> 37:55.560]  he's thinking, they're setting me up.
[37:55.560 --> 37:59.560]  One bar grievance's insurance is going way up.
[37:59.560 --> 38:02.560]  Two bar grievances, they'll cancel it.
[38:02.560 --> 38:07.560]  If he's a law firm, three, and they'll cancel the law firm's insurance.
[38:07.560 --> 38:10.560]  And we file it against him and he can't do anything.
[38:10.560 --> 38:11.560]  He can't say anything.
[38:11.560 --> 38:12.560]  He can't complain.
[38:12.560 --> 38:16.560]  He can't argue in his defense.
[38:16.560 --> 38:20.560]  It's like we go into court and we both stand behind our respective little tables
[38:20.560 --> 38:22.560]  and they call the court to order.
[38:22.560 --> 38:29.560]  And you walk over to his side and just kick him right square in the seat of his pants.
[38:29.560 --> 38:33.560]  And he's got to stand there and act like he didn't do it.
[38:33.560 --> 38:34.560]  Can't complain.
[38:34.560 --> 38:35.560]  Can't argue.
[38:35.560 --> 38:36.560]  Can't tell his side.
[38:36.560 --> 38:38.560]  Can't do anything.
[38:38.560 --> 38:44.560]  And regardless of what the bar does, the bar will always find it his favor.
[38:44.560 --> 38:48.560]  His insurance goes up anyway.
[38:48.560 --> 38:52.560]  Reason being, it's secret.
[38:52.560 --> 39:00.560]  The insurance company can't gauge their level of risk based on valid bar grievances.
[39:00.560 --> 39:05.560]  They can't know what they are because they're secret by the numbers.
[39:05.560 --> 39:08.560]  And they know full well that the bar will cost them all.
[39:08.560 --> 39:10.560]  They won't do anything on any of them.
[39:10.560 --> 39:19.560]  So they don't gauge their level of risk based on the ones where the attorney is sanctioned
[39:19.560 --> 39:24.560]  because you have to have someone in high political position mad at you to get sanctioned.
[39:24.560 --> 39:27.560]  That's all there is to that one.
[39:27.560 --> 39:32.560]  If you don't make someone with political clout angry, you can do anything you want to
[39:32.560 --> 39:35.560]  because it chumps down here on the bottom.
[39:35.560 --> 39:39.560]  So there's nothing the attorney can do about it.
[39:39.560 --> 39:40.560]  He can't control this.
[39:40.560 --> 39:43.560]  He can't affect it.
[39:43.560 --> 39:46.560]  He can't deal with the insurance companies.
[39:46.560 --> 39:48.560]  Only nine of them in the country.
[39:48.560 --> 39:50.560]  And they all have essentially the same policy.
[39:50.560 --> 39:52.560]  So this is his weakness.
[39:52.560 --> 39:59.560]  So as a pro se, and the courts hate pro se's, there was good reason.
[39:59.560 --> 40:04.560]  No attorney would file a judicial conduct complaint against a judge.
[40:04.560 --> 40:06.560]  You kidding?
[40:06.560 --> 40:09.560]  I would end his professional career.
[40:09.560 --> 40:13.560]  There's no good rotten snake in the grass pro se's.
[40:13.560 --> 40:16.560]  They do it at the drop of a hat.
[40:16.560 --> 40:19.560]  And the judge is sitting there, don't they know they're screwing up my career?
[40:19.560 --> 40:22.560]  We want them to know, yeah, we do, Bubba.
[40:22.560 --> 40:25.560]  That's the point.
[40:25.560 --> 40:30.560]  So any opportunity you get, and it's our job.
[40:30.560 --> 40:34.560]  If we don't police them, they're not going to police themselves.
[40:34.560 --> 40:36.560]  So we have to do it.
[40:36.560 --> 40:40.560]  And being pro se's, we can.
[40:40.560 --> 40:48.560]  So since we're the only ones that can, we need to do it quickly, often, every opportunity.
[40:48.560 --> 40:50.560]  Early and often?
[40:50.560 --> 40:51.560]  Yes.
[40:51.560 --> 40:54.560]  File them quick, file them often.
[40:54.560 --> 40:58.560]  And that's why they hate us, and that's okay.
[40:58.560 --> 41:00.560]  Let them hate us.
[41:00.560 --> 41:02.560]  Because what you're going to wind up doing,
[41:02.560 --> 41:04.560]  if you're beating the crap out of the judge,
[41:04.560 --> 41:06.560]  if you're filing judicial conduct complaints against him,
[41:06.560 --> 41:08.560]  they can't say anything about that.
[41:08.560 --> 41:11.560]  You can file bar grievances against a judge, too, right?
[41:11.560 --> 41:13.560]  Yeah, it depends on the jurisdictions.
[41:13.560 --> 41:17.560]  Not all of them keep bar cards.
[41:17.560 --> 41:18.560]  Well, if they are.
[41:18.560 --> 41:20.560]  I think they do in Texas.
[41:20.560 --> 41:26.560]  But if they are, they're open season.
[41:26.560 --> 41:29.560]  Yeah, you get a free shot at them.
[41:29.560 --> 41:35.560]  But they're the ones that made it secret so they can't mention it.
[41:35.560 --> 41:37.560]  That's pretty funny.
[41:37.560 --> 41:41.560]  Imagine somebody who just walks up and knocks the crap out of you,
[41:41.560 --> 41:43.560]  and you can't do anything about it.
[41:43.560 --> 41:45.560]  You can't even complain about it.
[41:45.560 --> 41:47.560]  Because if I get in court,
[41:47.560 --> 41:49.560]  and an attorney complains about me filing a bar grievance,
[41:49.560 --> 41:53.560]  I'll file a bar grievance on him for that.
[41:53.560 --> 41:58.560]  So that's the deal on bars with attorneys.
[41:58.560 --> 42:04.560]  We've got some callers in, so I won't go into grand juries right at the moment.
[42:04.560 --> 42:07.560]  Let's go to the call so we can keep them waiting all night.
[42:07.560 --> 42:09.560]  Yeah, we've got Dwayne from California,
[42:09.560 --> 42:12.560]  who actually pulled over on the side of the road to talk to us
[42:12.560 --> 42:15.560]  and switch off his Bluetooth phone.
[42:15.560 --> 42:17.560]  We appreciate that very much.
[42:17.560 --> 42:18.560]  Dwayne, thanks for calling in.
[42:18.560 --> 42:20.560]  What's on your mind tonight?
[42:20.560 --> 42:22.560]  Yeah, hi.
[42:22.560 --> 42:25.560]  I live on the coast in California, the Finto Coast,
[42:25.560 --> 42:29.560]  and I was working on my house, repairing some rot,
[42:29.560 --> 42:35.560]  and there's some major repairs there.
[42:35.560 --> 42:42.560]  And somebody reported me after about eight or nine months of working on my house,
[42:42.560 --> 42:47.560]  and the code enforcer came up, put a stop order.
[42:47.560 --> 42:49.560]  I responded quickly to that,
[42:49.560 --> 42:56.560]  and then he sent me a letter saying that I'd be fined $100 a day if I don't get a permit.
[42:56.560 --> 43:01.560]  I didn't get a permit, so over a year later, about a year and three months later,
[43:01.560 --> 43:10.560]  I get this letter in the mail saying that I've committed a crime of working on my house.
[43:10.560 --> 43:12.560]  And so they're charging me criminally.
[43:12.560 --> 43:19.560]  It's up to six months in jail for this crime, you know, up to $1,000 plus,
[43:19.560 --> 43:21.560]  up to six months in jail.
[43:21.560 --> 43:27.560]  The fine that I've been fined by the building department is up to $35,000.
[43:27.560 --> 43:28.560]  Okay, wait, wait.
[43:28.560 --> 43:31.560]  What was the nature of the work?
[43:31.560 --> 43:36.560]  I was just...
[43:36.560 --> 43:38.560]  Okay, wait, we're running out of time.
[43:38.560 --> 43:40.560]  We'll pick it up on the other side.
[43:40.560 --> 43:41.560]  Okay.
[43:41.560 --> 43:45.560]  I'm looking at new construction repair and the type, okay?
[43:45.560 --> 43:52.560]  Yeah, and also what are the ordinances concerning improvements where you are.
[43:52.560 --> 44:01.560]  We'll be right back on the other side with Dwayne from California.
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[45:15.560 --> 45:25.560]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah.
[45:25.560 --> 45:30.560]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[45:30.560 --> 45:35.560]  When I'm hungry, I like a little just what I'm fishing for.
[45:35.560 --> 45:41.560]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[45:41.560 --> 45:47.560]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[45:47.560 --> 45:53.560]  I give my message out to anyone in short and distance.
[45:53.560 --> 45:59.560]  Both for bravery and against slavery, showing resistance.
[45:59.560 --> 46:04.560]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[46:04.560 --> 46:12.560]  I'm so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[46:12.560 --> 46:16.560]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[46:16.560 --> 46:20.560]  Okay, first we're crawling, then we're walking, then we start strutting.
[46:20.560 --> 46:25.560]  So we all have to learn along the way.
[46:25.560 --> 46:28.560]  So we're talking with Duane in California.
[46:28.560 --> 46:31.560]  And Randy, you are asking Duane some questions.
[46:31.560 --> 46:37.560]  Yes, about the nature of the work on your house.
[46:37.560 --> 46:41.560]  Was it new construction or was it repair?
[46:41.560 --> 46:45.560]  What it was, it was a covered porch, partially enclosed.
[46:45.560 --> 46:50.560]  And I tore it down, rebuilt it, and once I got it to a certain point,
[46:50.560 --> 46:54.560]  I decided I'll make a sunroom out of it and put windows in.
[46:54.560 --> 47:02.560]  So it was an existing structure, but I added more to it by what I'm saying by windows.
[47:02.560 --> 47:09.560]  Are you in a rural area or are you in an annexed municipality?
[47:09.560 --> 47:15.560]  I'm on the coast and I'm under the Coastal Commission,
[47:15.560 --> 47:18.560]  which makes it a greater crime because you're on the coast.
[47:18.560 --> 47:28.560]  And then I'm in a, I'm not in a city, I'm in a, you know, I'm out of the city,
[47:28.560 --> 47:32.560]  but it's a neighborhood.
[47:32.560 --> 47:38.560]  Are you within the municipal jurisdiction?
[47:38.560 --> 47:42.560]  Of the city, I'm not...
[47:42.560 --> 47:44.560]  Okay, now wait, wait, we're just trying to get to...
[47:44.560 --> 47:46.560]  We're trying to figure out what jurisdiction you're under.
[47:46.560 --> 47:48.560]  Code applies to you.
[47:48.560 --> 47:53.560]  Yeah, if there's a zoning ordinance or if it's just deed restrictions, you know,
[47:53.560 --> 47:58.560]  because I can tell you here in Austin, if you live within the city limits of Austin,
[47:58.560 --> 48:04.560]  man, it's like the zoning department is like, they're like the Nazis around here.
[48:04.560 --> 48:10.560]  I mean, literally you cannot hardly even hammer one nail into your wall to hang a picture
[48:10.560 --> 48:12.560]  without getting permission from the zoning department.
[48:12.560 --> 48:13.560]  That's how bad it is.
[48:13.560 --> 48:18.560]  I mean, you have to get permission from the zoning department to do just about anything.
[48:18.560 --> 48:21.560]  Maybe, I think you even have to get permission to paint your house.
[48:21.560 --> 48:22.560]  Okay, so...
[48:22.560 --> 48:24.560]  That's the way it is where I'm at.
[48:24.560 --> 48:34.560]  I'm not in the city, I'm in the county, but I'm in the city, another small city,
[48:34.560 --> 48:36.560]  but it's the same kind of zoning.
[48:36.560 --> 48:38.560]  You can't do anything for your house unless you get a permit.
[48:38.560 --> 48:39.560]  I don't care what it is.
[48:39.560 --> 48:45.560]  Well, is this like zoning like who, if you're in the county but not the city,
[48:45.560 --> 48:49.560]  then is it the county commissioner's court that's laid down ordinances
[48:49.560 --> 48:52.560]  or you said you're under some other jurisdiction because you're along the coast?
[48:52.560 --> 48:54.560]  What is this?
[48:54.560 --> 48:57.560]  Yeah, they have the thing called the coastal commission.
[48:57.560 --> 49:00.560]  Are they the ones that have laid down these ordinances?
[49:00.560 --> 49:08.560]  I mean, what jurisdiction is putting these extensive, you know, obtrusive ordinances on you?
[49:08.560 --> 49:14.560]  Basically, it's the county, it's the county, and when you're on the coast,
[49:14.560 --> 49:22.560]  it's even more severe because, you know, you might harm the waters or the fish and stuff like that.
[49:22.560 --> 49:28.560]  So the fines and the restrictions are even tougher on the coast.
[49:28.560 --> 49:32.560]  And I'm right on the coast, I'm right on the bay overlooking the ocean.
[49:32.560 --> 49:37.560]  So the restrictions are tighter there, but I...
[49:37.560 --> 49:40.560]  Anyway, I'm fighting this in court.
[49:40.560 --> 49:43.560]  I have filed some motions.
[49:43.560 --> 49:46.560]  The judge keeps on denying everything.
[49:46.560 --> 49:50.560]  When I went to court for the first time, they didn't give me the complaint.
[49:50.560 --> 49:55.560]  The second time I went to court, they gave me an unsigned complaint, an unverified complaint,
[49:55.560 --> 50:03.560]  and the code enforcer never verified his complaint.
[50:03.560 --> 50:08.560]  So I complained, and five months later, finally the judge pled for me because I wouldn't plead.
[50:08.560 --> 50:13.560]  Five months later, she ordered the district attorney to sign the complaint
[50:13.560 --> 50:16.560]  so I could have a signed complaint.
[50:16.560 --> 50:20.560]  And they just marched me right into trial.
[50:20.560 --> 50:30.560]  And no matter what I say, no matter what I do, she just looks at me and just keeps on trucking.
[50:30.560 --> 50:33.560]  That's a pretty common procedure.
[50:33.560 --> 50:36.560]  You have to look at the statute.
[50:36.560 --> 50:42.560]  You have to be able to claim a specific statutory violation.
[50:42.560 --> 50:47.560]  You can't say, well, what they're doing is wrong.
[50:47.560 --> 50:49.560]  That's not enough.
[50:49.560 --> 50:54.560]  You have to say, like I went into court a couple days ago
[50:54.560 --> 51:00.560]  and told the judge that when they arrested me back in March,
[51:00.560 --> 51:07.560]  one of the officers found a key in my wallet that looked like a handcuff key.
[51:07.560 --> 51:09.560]  And she told me I wasn't getting that back.
[51:09.560 --> 51:11.560]  I said, well, you make sure you put it on the property list.
[51:11.560 --> 51:13.560]  And she didn't.
[51:13.560 --> 51:20.560]  And when I got out of jail that evening, that key wasn't in my property.
[51:20.560 --> 51:23.560]  And he said, well, you can get a property hearing.
[51:23.560 --> 51:24.560]  I said, I don't want a property hearing.
[51:24.560 --> 51:26.560]  Well, that way you can get your key back.
[51:26.560 --> 51:28.560]  I don't need the key back.
[51:28.560 --> 51:31.560]  I didn't know what it was for.
[51:31.560 --> 51:34.560]  He said, then why are you here?
[51:34.560 --> 51:37.560]  She stole it.
[51:37.560 --> 51:47.560]  38.03 paragraph E says that it's a crime to steal my personal property.
[51:47.560 --> 51:50.560]  He said, but you don't even know what it's for.
[51:50.560 --> 51:52.560]  Irrelevant.
[51:52.560 --> 51:55.560]  She stole it.
[51:55.560 --> 52:00.560]  But chapter and verse, this is the law she violated.
[52:00.560 --> 52:03.560]  He said, well, is it a class C misdemeanor?
[52:03.560 --> 52:06.560]  I said, well, kind of sort of.
[52:06.560 --> 52:09.560]  Class C misdemeanor except on paragraph F.
[52:09.560 --> 52:14.560]  Paragraph F2, if she's a public official, then after trial,
[52:14.560 --> 52:18.560]  if it's shown that she came into possession of it because she was a public official,
[52:18.560 --> 52:22.560]  then it becomes class C misdemeanor, but that's only an enhancement after trial.
[52:22.560 --> 52:23.560]  So it's a class C misdemeanor.
[52:23.560 --> 52:27.560]  He's trying to get out of taking the complaint.
[52:27.560 --> 52:34.560]  But when I go make an accusation, when I accuse them of doing something wrong, always,
[52:34.560 --> 52:35.560]  this is the law.
[52:35.560 --> 52:39.560]  This is the one that says you must do this thing.
[52:39.560 --> 52:45.560]  This is the law that makes it a crime for you to fail to follow this law.
[52:45.560 --> 52:49.560]  And that was always official oppression, so that was easy.
[52:49.560 --> 52:50.560]  But know the law.
[52:50.560 --> 52:53.560]  You can't talk about this in general terms.
[52:53.560 --> 53:01.560]  I asked for the statute, and he won't provide the statute that he's relying on.
[53:01.560 --> 53:07.560]  Did you ask for that at the preliminary hearing?
[53:07.560 --> 53:09.560]  Yeah, in my paperwork.
[53:09.560 --> 53:13.560]  Yeah, it's in there, and it's in my affirmative defenses.
[53:13.560 --> 53:17.560]  Okay, have you never been provided with that?
[53:17.560 --> 53:18.560]  Not the statute.
[53:18.560 --> 53:22.560]  They give me the local code, but they won't provide the statute.
[53:22.560 --> 53:25.560]  The local code may be sufficient.
[53:25.560 --> 53:26.560]  Oh, wait, now this is going to...
[53:26.560 --> 53:30.560]  Eddie, can municipal code be criminal?
[53:30.560 --> 53:35.560]  Sure it can be criminal, but not against the people.
[53:35.560 --> 53:38.560]  That's going to be a hard argument for him to make at this point.
[53:38.560 --> 53:39.560]  Well, not really.
[53:39.560 --> 53:43.560]  Again, who did they give authority to make law to?
[53:43.560 --> 53:51.560]  You're going to ask him to completely, totally indict the entire legal system
[53:51.560 --> 53:53.560]  for all municipalities in California.
[53:53.560 --> 53:55.560]  You think he's going to win now?
[53:55.560 --> 53:56.560]  Actually, yes, I think he will.
[53:56.560 --> 53:59.560]  He's not going to win now.
[53:59.560 --> 54:02.560]  Don't make any difference if he has the law in his favor.
[54:02.560 --> 54:03.560]  It's corrupt.
[54:03.560 --> 54:06.560]  They're not going to throw out all municipal law in California for him.
[54:06.560 --> 54:09.560]  Well, short of tying a rope to their desk on the other end around them
[54:09.560 --> 54:11.560]  and throwing them out the window.
[54:11.560 --> 54:14.560]  Yeah, well, I'm looking for something reasonable that he can use
[54:14.560 --> 54:18.560]  if he tries to go in and claim that all the municipal laws in the whole state
[54:18.560 --> 54:21.560]  are a violation of the Constitution.
[54:21.560 --> 54:26.560]  No, they're not violations unless they're being used against him.
[54:26.560 --> 54:29.560]  Yeah, but you're asking him to fight that.
[54:29.560 --> 54:30.560]  You're saying...
[54:30.560 --> 54:33.560]  Hey, you asked me.
[54:33.560 --> 54:36.560]  I'm telling you, we had this same discussion the other night.
[54:36.560 --> 54:37.560]  Okay, okay.
[54:37.560 --> 54:41.560]  A municipality cannot make law applicable to the people.
[54:41.560 --> 54:42.560]  We didn't give them that authority.
[54:42.560 --> 54:43.560]  Wait a minute.
[54:43.560 --> 54:44.560]  This is not the municipality.
[54:44.560 --> 54:47.560]  He's saying it's the county.
[54:47.560 --> 54:51.560]  We didn't give the county authority to make law either.
[54:51.560 --> 54:53.560]  Now you sound like Ralph Winnerud.
[54:53.560 --> 54:57.560]  Now, I quoted a U.S. Supreme Court case to her,
[54:57.560 --> 54:59.560]  and I can't remember the...
[54:59.560 --> 55:03.560]  I know Spaloza is one of the names on the case,
[55:03.560 --> 55:12.560]  and the Supreme Court says that the municipality cannot control any private property,
[55:12.560 --> 55:15.560]  only their own.
[55:15.560 --> 55:21.560]  Yeah, but the problem is, do you have a land patent?
[55:21.560 --> 55:22.560]  No.
[55:22.560 --> 55:25.560]  Then it's their property.
[55:25.560 --> 55:32.560]  If you have a deed on it, then technically it's their property.
[55:32.560 --> 55:34.560]  Yeah, that's what I heard, but still...
[55:34.560 --> 55:36.560]  Well, it's not a matter of heard.
[55:36.560 --> 55:39.560]  If you look up the legal definition of what a deed is,
[55:39.560 --> 55:43.560]  it is all the semblance of right and ownership,
[55:43.560 --> 55:46.560]  but it is not, in fact, a right of ownership.
[55:46.560 --> 55:49.560]  But it gives you right to possession, but not...
[55:49.560 --> 55:51.560]  The state actually owns it.
[55:51.560 --> 55:54.560]  They're kind of leasing it or licensing it to you.
[55:54.560 --> 56:04.560]  But when it comes to building codes, you could have a lot of problems.
[56:04.560 --> 56:09.560]  When you build something, this was an open carport?
[56:09.560 --> 56:15.560]  No, it was a partially enclosed deck.
[56:15.560 --> 56:17.560]  That was where the front door was.
[56:17.560 --> 56:22.560]  It was partially enclosed, and it was all rotted, so I tore it all down.
[56:22.560 --> 56:28.560]  I rebuilt it, and then I put windows in it.
[56:28.560 --> 56:30.560]  It may not be hard.
[56:30.560 --> 56:32.560]  A lot of these fights aren't worth fighting.
[56:32.560 --> 56:39.560]  It might be a lot easier to get the permit than to have this incredible fight.
[56:39.560 --> 56:43.560]  See, now they have $35,000 in fines against me.
[56:43.560 --> 56:49.560]  Well, a good chance, if you get the permit, they will reduce the problem.
[56:49.560 --> 56:54.560]  But you're probably clearly in violation of law,
[56:54.560 --> 57:01.560]  and the way the law stands, they have grounds.
[57:01.560 --> 57:06.560]  We don't get to ignore them because we don't like them.
[57:06.560 --> 57:10.560]  And that's what I do to public officials.
[57:10.560 --> 57:14.560]  One of the things that we're doing is I'm going to be asking the attorney
[57:14.560 --> 57:18.560]  for his license to practice law, and he's going to show me the bar card,
[57:18.560 --> 57:21.560]  and I'm going to say, that's nice, but I also want to see the license.
[57:21.560 --> 57:26.560]  And he's going to say, well, the Supreme Court doesn't issue licenses.
[57:26.560 --> 57:30.560]  And I'm going to say, you're a problem, not my problem.
[57:30.560 --> 57:34.560]  The statute says you must have a license and a bar card.
[57:34.560 --> 57:37.560]  The fact that you can't get a license, sorry, Bubba.
[57:37.560 --> 57:38.560]  The law is here.
[57:38.560 --> 57:39.560]  Follow it.
[57:39.560 --> 57:41.560]  You don't have to like it.
[57:41.560 --> 57:42.560]  You just have to do it.
[57:42.560 --> 57:47.560]  Yeah, so it looks like you're on the wrong side of that.
[57:47.560 --> 57:50.560]  Dwayne, I have a suggestion here.
[57:50.560 --> 57:53.560]  The Agenda 21 talk crew,
[57:53.560 --> 58:00.560]  they are the experts regarding how to handle local municipalities
[58:00.560 --> 58:04.560]  and zoning and building and stuff like that.
[58:04.560 --> 58:07.560]  They've got the grass police out there in Alabama where they're at,
[58:07.560 --> 58:10.560]  and so they are very well experienced,
[58:10.560 --> 58:12.560]  and they could give you a lot better tips than we could.
[58:12.560 --> 58:17.560]  And their show is on Tuesday nights from 8 to 10 Central Time,
[58:17.560 --> 58:20.560]  so I guess it would be 6 to 8 your time out on the West Coast.
[58:20.560 --> 58:24.560]  But what you need to do is make sure that you've got the statutes in front of you
[58:24.560 --> 58:31.560]  or the code and be clear on the jurisdiction of who issued the code
[58:31.560 --> 58:34.560]  and if you have any deed restrictions.
[58:34.560 --> 58:40.560]  Get all your facts straight and then call into their show on Tuesday night,
[58:40.560 --> 58:44.560]  and they can probably flesh out more details for you.
[58:44.560 --> 58:46.560]  Okay, thank you so much.
[58:46.560 --> 58:48.560]  Okay, thank you, Dwayne.
[58:48.560 --> 58:51.560]  Okay, we're coming into our final hour,
[58:51.560 --> 58:54.560]  rolling into the homestretch here on our Friday Night Info Marathon.
[58:54.560 --> 58:58.560]  We've got Shane and Rick coming right up on the other side.
[58:58.560 --> 59:21.560]  We'll be right back.
[59:28.560 --> 59:53.560]  All right.
[59:53.560 --> 01:00:04.560]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:09.560]  As NATO looks to spend more than $1 billion to bribe Taliban fighters
[01:00:09.560 --> 01:00:11.560]  into supporting the Karzai government,
[01:00:11.560 --> 01:00:16.560]  a report by the Afghan Analyst Network warns that the integration strategy
[01:00:16.560 --> 01:00:20.560]  is being run so poorly it has only lured 600 Taliban to defect,
[01:00:20.560 --> 01:00:25.560]  many of whom have already gone back to the Taliban.
[01:00:25.560 --> 01:00:28.560]  The House of Representatives took another step Thursday
[01:00:28.560 --> 01:00:32.560]  toward finalizing legislation that would slap sanctions on Iran
[01:00:32.560 --> 01:00:35.560]  and companies that do business with Iran.
[01:00:35.560 --> 01:00:39.560]  The House voted to allow a conference to begin between House and Senate lawmakers
[01:00:39.560 --> 01:00:44.560]  to iron out differences between the two versions of the legislation.
[01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:48.560]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:48.560 --> 01:00:52.560]  Ken Bell, a lawyer for former Blackwater CEO Gary Jackson,
[01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:54.560]  who has been charged with gun crimes,
[01:00:54.560 --> 01:00:58.560]  says a U.S. government agency approved of what Blackwater was doing.
[01:00:58.560 --> 01:01:03.560]  Bell didn't specify, but is widely known Blackwater has provided security
[01:01:03.560 --> 01:01:07.560]  to CIA stations and officers in Afghanistan and other countries,
[01:01:07.560 --> 01:01:11.560]  and several Blackwater officials were once high-ranking CIA officials.
[01:01:11.560 --> 01:01:15.560]  Federal prosecutors indicted Jackson last week in a case that stemmed
[01:01:15.560 --> 01:01:19.560]  from a raid on Blackwater's North Carolina headquarters in 2008,
[01:01:19.560 --> 01:01:25.560]  which turned up 22 automatic weapons, including 17 Russian-made AK-47s.
[01:01:25.560 --> 01:01:29.560]  Federal Judge James Gates ruled Wednesday Jackson and four colleagues
[01:01:29.560 --> 01:01:32.560]  could remain free as they await trial.
[01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:36.560]  Judge Gates ordered all five defendants to turn over their passports
[01:01:36.560 --> 01:01:38.560]  and refrain from possessing guns.
[01:01:38.560 --> 01:01:42.560]  At the hearing, prosecutors accused Jackson of flouting federal regulation
[01:01:42.560 --> 01:01:44.560]  with, quote, arrogance.
[01:01:44.560 --> 01:01:48.560]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:01:48.560 --> 01:01:52.560]  Fox News journalist Jeffrey Scott Shapiro says he was working for Gannett News
[01:01:52.560 --> 01:01:55.560]  at Ground Zero on 9-11 and remembers, quote,
[01:01:55.560 --> 01:01:58.560]  very clearly what I saw and heard.
[01:01:58.560 --> 01:02:02.560]  Shapiro says, quote, shortly before Building 7 collapsed,
[01:02:02.560 --> 01:02:07.560]  several NYPD officers and Con Edison workers told me Larry Silverstein,
[01:02:07.560 --> 01:02:10.560]  the property developer of One World Financial Center,
[01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:13.560]  was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize
[01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:16.560]  the controlled demolition of the building,
[01:02:16.560 --> 01:02:20.560]  since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.
[01:02:20.560 --> 01:02:25.560]  This building's collapse alone resulted in a payout of nearly $500 million
[01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:29.560]  based on the contention that it was an unforeseen accidental event.
[01:02:29.560 --> 01:02:33.560]  However, Silverstein has consistently denied it was ever a plan
[01:02:33.560 --> 01:02:36.560]  to intentionally demolish Building 7.
[01:02:36.560 --> 01:02:39.560]  Prison Planet journalist Alex Jones writes, quote,
[01:02:39.560 --> 01:02:43.560]  how could explosives have been correctly placed on such short notice
[01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:46.560]  unless the explosives were already in place?
[01:02:46.560 --> 01:03:10.560]  This new revelation is astounding and needs to be investigated immediately.
[01:03:17.560 --> 01:03:23.560]  Yeah, a story for everyone to hear,
[01:03:23.560 --> 01:03:27.560]  about how we're not going to give in to the fear we have.
[01:03:27.560 --> 01:03:33.560]  Yeah, a story, a story for everyone to enjoy,
[01:03:33.560 --> 01:03:37.560]  a story for everyone to hear.
[01:03:37.560 --> 01:03:41.560]  I will lie in front of my brother's house,
[01:03:41.560 --> 01:03:47.560]  until he returns.
[01:03:47.560 --> 01:03:52.560]  He has only one place to stay, and we're gone.
[01:03:52.560 --> 01:03:58.560]  I will pay my concerns,
[01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:00.560]  until I realize.
[01:04:00.560 --> 01:04:04.560]  Okay, we will occupy our father's house,
[01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:07.560]  until he returns,
[01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:10.560]  waiting on our good Lord Jesus to return.
[01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:13.560]  All right, we are going to Shane from New York,
[01:04:13.560 --> 01:04:15.560]  and then Rick from California.
[01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:16.560]  Folks, we've got one more hour.
[01:04:16.560 --> 01:04:20.560]  If you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:04:20.560 --> 01:04:22.560]  Shane, thanks for calling in with On Your Mind tonight.
[01:04:22.560 --> 01:04:25.560]  Yes, good evening, guys.
[01:04:25.560 --> 01:04:26.560]  Just a question, Randy.
[01:04:26.560 --> 01:04:29.560]  I'm not sure if you heard of this case Ferretta versus California,
[01:04:29.560 --> 01:04:34.560]  where they have to give you a hearing,
[01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:38.560]  if you do decide to represent yourself pro se,
[01:04:38.560 --> 01:04:40.560]  and they don't do that hearing,
[01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:45.560]  and you go to trial and you lose at trial,
[01:04:45.560 --> 01:04:50.560]  can you go right on the argument that you were never offered a hearing?
[01:04:50.560 --> 01:04:58.560]  Okay, does it indicate a result for failure to grant a hearing?
[01:04:58.560 --> 01:05:01.560]  Does it deprive due process or something of that nature?
[01:05:01.560 --> 01:05:02.560]  Yes, yes.
[01:05:02.560 --> 01:05:07.560]  In fact, I had my friend John Patrick with me on the phone,
[01:05:07.560 --> 01:05:11.560]  and John has been studying this stuff for what, about two weeks, John?
[01:05:11.560 --> 01:05:12.560]  Three weeks now we found this?
[01:05:12.560 --> 01:05:15.560]  Yes.
[01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:21.560]  Okay, do you have the case address?
[01:05:21.560 --> 01:05:25.560]  John, do you have it right in front of you?
[01:05:25.560 --> 01:05:32.560]  No, I don't, but it's a 1975 Supreme Court case.
[01:05:32.560 --> 01:05:35.560]  Ferretta versus California, here it is, Randy.
[01:05:35.560 --> 01:05:41.560]  It's 422-US-806-1975.
[01:05:41.560 --> 01:05:48.560]  Again, that's Ferretta, spelled F-A-R-E-T-T-A versus California.
[01:05:48.560 --> 01:05:54.560]  It's F-R-A-A, F-A-R-A-T-T-A.
[01:05:54.560 --> 01:05:58.560]  A-T-T-A, that has a familiar ring to it.
[01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:02.560]  And John, if you want to tell Randy what you found out about it,
[01:06:02.560 --> 01:06:05.560]  if they don't give you that hearing and say, look...
[01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:10.560]  It's an automatic reversal, unequivocal automatic reversal.
[01:06:10.560 --> 01:06:14.560]  It goes to fundamental error.
[01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:15.560]  Right.
[01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:17.560]  That's interesting.
[01:06:17.560 --> 01:06:19.560]  Is it specific to California?
[01:06:19.560 --> 01:06:25.560]  Is it immersed in California law or strictly in constitutional requirement?
[01:06:25.560 --> 01:06:31.560]  In constitutional law, under the Sixth Amendment.
[01:06:31.560 --> 01:06:32.560]  Interesting.
[01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:34.560]  I sure want to look at that.
[01:06:34.560 --> 01:06:39.560]  Can you kind of paraphrase what the case says?
[01:06:39.560 --> 01:06:45.560]  Well, they have to give you a Ferretta inquiry,
[01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:50.560]  and they have to determine that you knowingly, willingly,
[01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:54.560]  and intelligently waived your Sixth Amendment right.
[01:06:54.560 --> 01:07:01.560]  And in that hearing, they have to question you intensely about your intention
[01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:09.560]  to waive your rights, to waive your right to counsel.
[01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:11.560]  Interesting.
[01:07:11.560 --> 01:07:18.560]  I know in Texas law, there's a spiel that the judge is required to give you,
[01:07:18.560 --> 01:07:21.560]  if you want to represent yourself.
[01:07:21.560 --> 01:07:26.560]  He's got this little spiel he has to go through to tell you all of the problems of that.
[01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:29.560]  The California conviction will not be reversed on grounds
[01:07:29.560 --> 01:07:31.560]  of ineffective assistance of counsel,
[01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:34.560]  except in the extreme case where the quality of representation...
[01:07:34.560 --> 01:07:41.560]  I'm looking at the head notes of this case.
[01:07:41.560 --> 01:07:46.560]  The right to assistance of counsel in the United States Constitution,
[01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:52.560]  Amendment 6, implicitly embodies a correlative right to dispense with a lawyer's help.
[01:07:52.560 --> 01:07:56.560]  I've seen that before.
[01:07:56.560 --> 01:08:00.560]  And accused in the exercise of a free, intelligent choice,
[01:08:00.560 --> 01:08:04.560]  and with considered approval of the court, may waive trial by jury,
[01:08:04.560 --> 01:08:08.560]  and so likewise may be competently and...
[01:08:08.560 --> 01:08:15.560]  he may competently and intelligently waive his constitutional right to assistance of counsel.
[01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:19.560]  But they have to put you through an exercise, a hearing,
[01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:25.560]  to determine whether you're doing it knowingly, willingly, and intelligently.
[01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:28.560]  He can't just get up there and say, well, you shouldn't do this.
[01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.560]  This is dangerous.
[01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.560]  He has to go through a whole litany of questions before he can make a determination
[01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:43.560]  that you can waive your right to counsel or that you cannot.
[01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:47.560]  Yeah, that's exactly what they did.
[01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.560]  They forced counsel on someone?
[01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:52.560]  No.
[01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:59.560]  Wait a minute, I'm just trying to read and listen.
[01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:05.560]  Okay, do you have someone that this happened to that they are trying to use this?
[01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:07.560]  Yeah, Shane.
[01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:11.560]  Ah, so he's representing himself.
[01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.560]  He did, yes.
[01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.560]  He represented himself, then they appointed counsel for him,
[01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:21.560]  and he said, I'm not satisfied with counsel.
[01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:23.560]  I'm going to represent myself.
[01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:25.560]  They said, okay, but this is a minefield you're going through.
[01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:26.560]  You shouldn't do this.
[01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:31.560]  And that's basically all they said.
[01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.560]  And then they set the mines out in front of him.
[01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:35.560]  Yeah.
[01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.560]  Randy, it was pretty amazing.
[01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:42.560]  I was not allowed to put any eyewitnesses on the stand that I would have won the case.
[01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.560]  But anything that was dangerous to the government, they said, oh,
[01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.560]  can't allow him on there, that would confuse the jury.
[01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.560]  Oh, can't put him on the stand because that would confuse the jury.
[01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:54.560]  Confuse the jury?
[01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:59.560]  Oh, yeah, it was quite amazing.
[01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:03.560]  They actually said that, that it would confuse the jury?
[01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:06.560]  Deborah, it was absolutely amazing, yeah.
[01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:08.560]  You need to get a transcript.
[01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:11.560]  Have you filed a judicial comment?
[01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:12.560]  I just got it yesterday.
[01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:13.560]  I got the whole trial transcript.
[01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:14.560]  Everything's done.
[01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:23.560]  And one little bright thing is that he granted my motion for enlargement of time to respond to the guilty verdict,
[01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:30.560]  which I wasn't denied all the due process that you could have.
[01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.560]  So I just got everything yesterday.
[01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.560]  The trial took place about a month ago.
[01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:42.560]  So he did grant the post-trial release under Rule 29 and 33, Randy.
[01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:51.560]  So, okay, it's too complex for me to ask the right questions at this point.
[01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:56.560]  But you really need to file a whole bunch of bar grievances against the,
[01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:04.560]  opposing against the prosecutor, and if the prosecutor raised an objection that was inappropriate,
[01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.560]  then that will violate the counts of ethics.
[01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:15.560]  If the judge gave an inappropriate ruling, that should get Judge Bargary a judicata complaint.
[01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:23.560]  But if he denied you, the reason I'm having trouble asking the right questions is,
[01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:34.560]  if they didn't let you put on a witness, are you familiar with the foundation?
[01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:35.560]  No, he's not.
[01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:37.560]  That may be part of the problem.
[01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:45.560]  In order to call a witness, you have to establish foundation for the witness's testimony.
[01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:52.560]  And if you didn't appropriately establish foundation, and that's why they said it's a minefield, then...
[01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:57.560]  That's why I want to tell you, Randy, that's why we're getting back to the front of hearing,
[01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:02.560]  because I never had a hearing how dangerous this really was.
[01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.560]  That's probably a really good argument.
[01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:07.560]  Yeah, and that's a true argument.
[01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.560]  It's not that I'm trying to use that and say, oh, you know, it's true.
[01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.560]  I didn't know.
[01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:17.560]  I didn't know how to get exhibits into the trial.
[01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:21.560]  And the ones that I tried to get in, they just denied it and say, oh, that's just confusing.
[01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:22.560]  I couldn't do that.
[01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:26.560]  I couldn't allow that.
[01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:31.560]  I'm kind of concerned about that would confuse the jury.
[01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:41.560]  What was the nature of the objection of the prosecutor?
[01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.560]  It got back to the redemption process.
[01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:55.560]  The motions limited it for me. I was not allowed to have any conversation or anything dealing with redemption.
[01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:59.560]  Okay, he's probably going to do that under relevance.
[01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:02.560]  How was redemption relevant?
[01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:09.560]  That was just a case concerning a promissory note that we used to a file of a credit card.
[01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.560]  Okay, is this what this case was about?
[01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:12.560]  That's it, yeah.
[01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.560]  It's a credit card case?
[01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:15.560]  Yep.
[01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:18.560]  Did they produce the original contract?
[01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:20.560]  Nope.
[01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.560]  Oh, so this is not criminal.
[01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:25.560]  Yeah, it's criminal.
[01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:27.560]  They came, the government invited me.
[01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.560]  It was bank fraud.
[01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:32.560]  Yeah, one count.
[01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:37.560]  Okay, how did they get the bank fraud?
[01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:44.560]  The U.S. attorney filed it against me. There was no complaint from the bank at all.
[01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:55.560]  He came after me and filed it, and he found out that I recorded a promissory note at the county courthouse.
[01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:59.560]  Oh, okay. Now it's making sense.
[01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:06.560]  He dug it up, and he said, oh, that's fraudulent. That's fictitious.
[01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:11.560]  Okay, what was the promissory note drawn on?
[01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:19.560]  Okay, a promissory note is a promise by one person that if a second person presents the note to a third person,
[01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.560]  the third person will pay who was the third person.
[01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:33.560]  It's a promissory note that I put together by using my Social Security account.
[01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.560]  You've got a problem.
[01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:43.560]  I'm beginning to think that the government is sending people out to spread misinformation
[01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:48.560]  to get people to do this sort of thing.
[01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:50.560]  Probably your best defense.
[01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:52.560]  Okay, wait.
[01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:57.560]  Did you receive consideration?
[01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:01.560]  Was this something where you used the promissory note to make purchase?
[01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.560]  No, nothing like that.
[01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:07.560]  Did you merely use it to discharge a debt?
[01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.560]  That was it, yeah.
[01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:13.560]  What was the nature of the debt?
[01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:14.560]  Credit card?
[01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:20.560]  Credit card from a bank that was basically sitting idle for several months,
[01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:28.560]  and I decided to go ahead and put the note together, record it at the county courthouse,
[01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:33.560]  put two letters of instruction in there, and mail it, register mail it to the CEO of the bank,
[01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:35.560]  and that was pretty much about it.
[01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:40.560]  Several months later, somehow they find a way.
[01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:44.560]  I'm not sure how they find out these things, but hold it.
[01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:49.560]  That's not how you do things.
[01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:54.560]  What was the nature of your defense?
[01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:56.560]  It wasn't an algorithm.
[01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.560]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:03.560]  This is going to take way too long, and our calls are stacking up.
[01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:05.560]  This is too complex.
[01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:13.560]  This issue of filing these promissory notes, I can tell you for certain is bad news,
[01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:17.560]  and it's bad information people have been handing out,
[01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:26.560]  because I've had a number of people want me to try to help keep them out of jail for doing these.
[01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:35.560]  We've got a lot of our information from creditors, and Tim Turner has a show on it.
[01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:37.560]  Yeah, Tim Turner worries me.
[01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:41.560]  Okay, I don't know how much more I can help you.
[01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:45.560]  It's going to get too complex for the show and how much time we've got.
[01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.560]  All right, we understand, Randy.
[01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:49.560]  Thanks for calling.
[01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:51.560]  I'm going to look at that case.
[01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:52.560]  All right, thank you.
[01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:53.560]  Okay, thank you.
[01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:55.560]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:16:55.560 --> 01:17:00.560]  We'll be right back on the other side, and we'll take Rick from California.
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[01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:07.560]  Oh, come on
[01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:14.560]  If I can't get everything I want
[01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:20.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:26.560]  If I can't get everything I want
[01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:32.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:38.560]  If I can't get everything I need
[01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:44.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:51.560]  If the people of the world can get happiness and peace
[01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:57.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:03.560]  If we can't get all these crazies who want to see
[01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:07.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:12.560]  We'll get a range
[01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:17.560]  We'll get a range
[01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:22.560]  We'll get a range
[01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:26.560]  Looking for a little bitty smith in the hole
[01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:33.560]  Could I get a range, yeah
[01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.560]  I want to reach the top of the hill, sliding on the slippery slope
[01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:43.560]  Looking for a range, yeah
[01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:48.560]  I'm trying to get away from all this sorrow
[01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:53.560]  Can I get a range, yeah
[01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:58.560]  If I can't get everything I want
[01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:03.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:08.560]  If I can't get everything I need
[01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:13.560]  We'll get a range, yeah
[01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:18.560]  We'll get a range
[01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:23.560]  We'll get a range
[01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:28.560]  We'll get a range
[01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.560]  Maybe later
[01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:36.560]  Okay, we are back. We're going now to Rick in California.
[01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.560]  Rick, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:41.560]  How are you guys doing? It's been a long time.
[01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:44.560]  Pretty good. Give us the news.
[01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:48.560]  Well, I went to court yesterday for seven cases against me.
[01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:52.560]  I'm in California, the city of Glendale, right next to Los Angeles.
[01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.560]  And it was very interesting. I hadn't even gone into the court.
[01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.560]  I was on the phone right outside of the court.
[01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:04.560]  It's in the building, but there's a little patio on the inside where you can take a little hallway.
[01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:08.560]  And I was approached by four sheriffs recording me with the video camera.
[01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:17.560]  And then they purported to give me some kind of, I guess, they said I was being served.
[01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:24.560]  And the funny part was what the officer said. He said, this is for you. I am serving you this.
[01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:30.560]  He said, this is so that you cannot record in the court and post it on YouTube.
[01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:35.560]  And I looked at him and I said, what?
[01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:41.560]  And honestly, I was really scared for the simple fact that I had no idea what they were going to do.
[01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:48.560]  And given the fact that I've already encountered a lot of certain corrupt officers in the city of Glendale,
[01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:53.560]  because not all of them are mean and there are a lot of honest cops out there.
[01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:56.560]  But the point is that since I've already encountered enough,
[01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:02.560]  I kind of figured these guys might be on that same site since they were just pretty much bum rushing me.
[01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:05.560]  Like, you know, and then I said, excuse me.
[01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:08.560]  And he's like, oh, you're on the phone. I'll wait.
[01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:11.560]  And then I'm talking to luckily to one of my mentors.
[01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:18.560]  And so sure enough, he's saying, oh, you know, he's talking to me and asking questions and I'm explaining what's going on.
[01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:20.560]  And then I said, could I see that?
[01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:22.560]  And then he showed me the paper. He goes, get off the phone.
[01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:25.560]  I said, no, I'm not going to get off the phone. Why do I need to get off the phone?
[01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.560]  And then I said, well, why are you recording? Why is he recording?
[01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.560]  It was four of them. It was three male, one female.
[01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:33.560]  And it was just weird. And I'm like, what are these guys doing?
[01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:38.560]  You know, like, they're serving me with something that was, I looked at it and it stated 2005.
[01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.560]  Then I look at the top and it's like a fax.
[01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:45.560]  And then it says Burbank Sheriff's and these are Glendale or whatever, you know, it's LA County.
[01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:53.560]  But so I'm thinking, you know, I think they honestly try to divert my attention from what the point was, which was the court.
[01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.560]  I think they succeeded in a certain way and I'll explain why.
[01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:04.560]  The reason why is because they wanted me to agree on video that I acknowledge what they were saying.
[01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:07.560]  And so I neither admitted nor denied.
[01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:12.560]  However, I got the paperwork from them. It was like two pages.
[01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:17.560]  And I actually made a video of it and I put it on YouTube so they know that, you know, I don't care.
[01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:21.560]  You can do whatever you want. I'm not going to stop myself. You know what I mean?
[01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.560]  And this is the craziest part is this.
[01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:30.560]  So when he says, oh, well, do you acknowledge that I'm serving you?
[01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:35.560]  And I said, I was just like staying quiet because I was like, I don't know, it sounded like a trick question.
[01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:37.560]  So then I just didn't respond.
[01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:41.560]  And the other guy recording me was saying, ask him if he knows English, ask him if he knows English.
[01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:43.560]  I mean, they only heard me talking on the phone.
[01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.560]  They know I know English or at least some English.
[01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:46.560]  And he goes, do you know English?
[01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:51.560]  And I said, I know some English because for me to say I know English, it would be a lie.
[01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:56.560]  And so then he said, he said, well, he refused to sign because I didn't want to sign anything.
[01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:58.560]  I said, no, I'm not signing anything.
[01:23:58.560 --> 01:23:59.560]  And he goes, okay.
[01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:03.560]  Well, then now he's refusing to acknowledge or whatever the case may be that, you know, I served him.
[01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:06.560]  But he served and he's on video or something like that.
[01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:10.560]  And then they all walk away and I was like, what? What happened?
[01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.560]  And then my friend was like, what? He struck in the rib.
[01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.560]  The last time he went to court, because the last time I went to court with this judge,
[01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.560]  he made the mistake of putting me first at arraignment.
[01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:23.560]  So I pretty much blew the whole cover off and I said, you know, first off in the state of California,
[01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:30.560]  I can prove an officer by law cannot even give me a notice to appear for speeding or for expired registration
[01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:31.560]  or if my tail light is out.
[01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:37.560]  And furthermore, they have no warrant to stop me and arrest me, which they do through detention.
[01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:39.560]  And I said the case law.
[01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:42.560]  So I think he made the mistake of calling me first.
[01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.560]  So he wanted to send me a message.
[01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.560]  I'm assuming I would have known, but that's my assumption.
[01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.560]  And so when these guys did that, then I said, okay, fine, whatever.
[01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:52.560]  I went inside the court.
[01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:57.560]  Sure enough, this time I'm last, like always in, you know, the LA Superior Court.
[01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:00.560]  I'm always last there because those commissioners know who I am.
[01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.560]  However, now I'm last.
[01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:04.560]  Now this commissioner knows who I am.
[01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:10.560]  And so what happened was they called me and then I said, okay, I go.
[01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:13.560]  This is supposed to be a hearing.
[01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:16.560]  This is my fifth time going to court and I'm still at arraignment.
[01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:20.560]  As a matter of fact, I guess I'm technically still at arraignment because in the end he said,
[01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.560]  I'm going to give you a court date.
[01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:23.560]  Just go home.
[01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:24.560]  Don't worry about it.
[01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:25.560]  And I said, no, no, no.
[01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:30.560]  I've heard that from LA commissioners in, you know, the LA Superior Court.
[01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.560]  And they usually, that means they're going to dismiss the case.
[01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:35.560]  You know, I'm not trying to have these cases dismissed that way.
[01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:37.560]  If you're going to do it, do it right on the record.
[01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.560]  So but the point is that we're talking and then I'm objecting.
[01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:42.560]  I said, this is my hearing date.
[01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:44.560]  And so I filed a motion.
[01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:48.560]  I said, and so prosecution is not objected.
[01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:52.560]  So I moved the court to dismiss this case in the interest of justice, of course.
[01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:57.560]  And so he looked at me and he says, well, no, I don't understand your motion.
[01:25:57.560 --> 01:25:58.560]  So I'm going to deny it.
[01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:00.560]  Well, then I asked him, well, what are the findings of facts
[01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.560]  and conclusions of laws to why he denied my motion?
[01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:05.560]  He goes, well, if you want it in writing, I said, objection.
[01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:08.560]  You already offered me that last thing for my other motions.
[01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:10.560]  And I never got them in writing.
[01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:14.560]  He goes and says, well, I figured that the court clerk would send them to you.
[01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:15.560]  Objection.
[01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.560]  I said, did you instruct the court clerk to send them to me?
[01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:20.560]  Did she make that ruling?
[01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:22.560]  I mean, who's making these rulings here?
[01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:28.560]  And then so he says, well, you know, well, I'm going to just go ahead and deny it.
[01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:31.560]  And you know, your objection is noted for the record.
[01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:34.560]  So we go back and forth for about an hour, okay?
[01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:37.560]  And this room is empty and I'm still kind of jumping and nervous
[01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:43.560]  because I had seen the bailiffs walk in and out of the courtroom prior to me going up.
[01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:47.560]  And so I had a feeling they were going to probably stop me after I was done
[01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:51.560]  and see if I recorded the proceeding, which I mean, I hadn't.
[01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:55.560]  But the point was that we do this for about an hour.
[01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:59.560]  And then in the end, I'm realizing I said, oh, and for the record,
[01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:01.560]  I objected that there's no co-reporter here.
[01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.560]  He goes, well, this is an infraction.
[01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:05.560]  There aren't supposed to be any court reporters.
[01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:08.560]  And I said, for the record, I objected.
[01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:09.560]  That's wrong.
[01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:12.560]  I'm already going to win because that's an appealable decision.
[01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.560]  And I filed what's called an Armstrong motion.
[01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:23.560]  And Armstrong basically, in that motion, states that the Supreme Court has paid their half.
[01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:28.560]  Rick?
[01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:29.560]  Bummer.
[01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:31.560]  I was just going to say.
[01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:32.560]  He'll be back.
[01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:33.560]  He'll be back.
[01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:35.560]  Rick is rocking and rolling.
[01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:39.560]  Yeah, except for he needed to have a court reporter there
[01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:45.560]  because now everything that he's discussing concerning this hearing is hearsay.
[01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.560]  That's what Frederick Graves always says.
[01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:48.560]  Get a court reporter.
[01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:51.560]  You have to hire your own court reporter if necessary.
[01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:52.560]  Look, here he is.
[01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:55.560]  He's back on the board.
[01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.560]  Rick, you violated one of the rules of Frederick Graves' jurisdiction.
[01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.560]  You have to hire your own court reporter if necessary.
[01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:02.560]  Sorry about that.
[01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.560]  Well, you know what happened is that through these motions,
[01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:07.560]  I'm already going to win when I appeal, which I'm going to appeal.
[01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:09.560]  As a matter of fact, I'm going to do a writ right now,
[01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.560]  a writ of prohibition for there being this court moving forward anyways.
[01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:14.560]  But this is the craziest part.
[01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:20.560]  I said, Your Honor, for the record, is this a court of record or not?
[01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:22.560]  And he says, well, of course it is.
[01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:25.560]  The proceedings are being recorded.
[01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:27.560]  This was the last time I went there.
[01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:28.560]  Wait a minute.
[01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.560]  The proceedings are being recorded by what, videotape?
[01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:32.560]  No, no, no, by audio.
[01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.560]  Oh, so there is a record.
[01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:36.560]  No, no.
[01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:37.560]  This is a thing, though.
[01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:38.560]  This is what they alleged.
[01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:44.560]  Okay, the last time I went, there was a record because they were recording me audibly.
[01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:45.560]  Okay?
[01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:47.560]  And I could hear myself in the background.
[01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:50.560]  And that time I said, well, for the record, I object.
[01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.560]  I said, because when I go to the appellate court, sir,
[01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:57.560]  who's going to assign under penalty of perjury that what happened was true and correct?
[01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:00.560]  If it's on the audio recording, it's still considered hearsay.
[01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:03.560]  Therefore, Armstrong wins.
[01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:05.560]  That's why he gets reversed.
[01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.560]  It's a violation of due process.
[01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:09.560]  Wait, I did an English in his reservation.
[01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:11.560]  I'm going to get them in federal court when I'm done with them anyways.
[01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:13.560]  That's a different story.
[01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:17.560]  So the point is, I said that, you know, I said, and that's when I realized,
[01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:20.560]  and I asked him this time when I said, I mean, is this a court of record?
[01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.560]  He goes, well, yes, it is.
[01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:24.560]  I said, well, no, it's not for the record.
[01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.560]  I must object since there's no court reporter.
[01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:30.560]  And that's when I realized, wait a minute, I don't hear my voice.
[01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.560]  For the record, Your Honor, are we being recorded?
[01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:35.560]  I'll wait.
[01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:36.560]  I'll wait.
[01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:37.560]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:40.560]  You're having entirely too much fun.
[01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:44.560]  But, Rick, you have to hire your own court reporter in these types of situations.
[01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:45.560]  Yeah.
[01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:48.560]  Oh, that's one of the big rules of jurisdictionary, for real,
[01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:54.560]  because otherwise, you know, you don't have anything concrete for your appeal.
[01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:56.560]  Okay, we'll talk about this some more on the other side.
[01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:57.560]  I want to hear more of the story.
[01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:00.560]  We'll be right back with Rick.
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[01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.560]  Okay, Rick, continue with the story.
[01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:33.560]  Okay.
[01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:37.560]  So what happens is that I ask them, is this a court of record?
[01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:38.560]  And he goes, yes.
[01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:42.560]  I said, well, for the record, I object since there's no court reporting here.
[01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:46.560]  And per Armstrong, that's already a violation of due process
[01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.560]  and it's going to be an appealable decision.
[01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:52.560]  And that's when I realized I don't hear my voice in the background.
[01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:57.560]  So then I said, Your Honor, are we recording here?
[01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.560]  And then he turns to the clerk and says, and asks the clerk, are they recording?
[01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.560]  And she goes, I was instructed not to.
[01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:07.560]  And I said, I lost it.
[01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:09.560]  I said, what?
[01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:11.560]  I said, oh, for the record, I object.
[01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:12.560]  Well, wait a minute, there is no record.
[01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:13.560]  I just object.
[01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:16.560]  And then I said, I said, that means anybody can just say anything.
[01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:18.560]  And I looked at the bailiff, do you want to say something?
[01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:25.560]  I mean, you know, and then so he was like, well, you know, he goes,
[01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.560]  I'm pretty sure you're going to want to do an appeal, correct?
[01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:33.560]  Or would you want to go and do you want to go to trial?
[01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:34.560]  I said, objection.
[01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:36.560]  Nobody's objected to anything.
[01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.560]  The prosecution isn't even prosecuting these infractions,
[01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:40.560]  which is a violation of due process.
[01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.560]  You're letting this officer practice law without a license.
[01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:44.560]  Isn't that correct, sir?
[01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:48.560]  And he goes, well, it's per more or equal code objection that's in my motion.
[01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:49.560]  It's fine.
[01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:50.560]  It's a clear violation.
[01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:51.560]  It's unconstitutional.
[01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:53.560]  I'm going to take this all the way if I have to.
[01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:56.560]  And it seems like I'm going to have to defend myself, so it seems like I'm going to.
[01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.560]  And I said, so what are we going to go and appeal on?
[01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.560]  I said, Your Honor, our memory, you know.
[01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:03.560]  I said, I'm sorry, but mine is just so good.
[01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:04.560]  How about yours?
[01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:06.560]  And he goes, well, yes, that's usually how we do it.
[01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.560]  I said, objection.
[01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.560]  I'm sure that's what you're used to doing it, but it doesn't work that way.
[01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.560]  You know, I said, this isn't a court of record.
[01:33:15.560 --> 01:33:16.560]  What is this?
[01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:18.560]  I said, what is this, a sham arraignment?
[01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:20.560]  I said, I've heard of sham trials, but come on.
[01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:23.560]  We haven't even gone there yet, and you're already doing this.
[01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:25.560]  I said, so for the record, I object.
[01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:26.560]  You can do what you want.
[01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:29.560]  I said, into the rest, you know, whatever you want.
[01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:32.560]  I mean, really, I don't even know what we're wasting time here.
[01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:37.560]  And then so he was like, well, then, okay, you're going to do a writ.
[01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:38.560]  You want some time?
[01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:41.560]  I said, you know what, sir, whatever you want, because it's under the rest,
[01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:42.560]  and this isn't a court of record.
[01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.560]  My rights have been violated from day one, and I've been putting it on the record,
[01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:49.560]  and I guess that's why now you stopped recording.
[01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:51.560]  I mean, so?
[01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:55.560]  So the court went to great trouble to ensure that you weren't recording.
[01:33:55.560 --> 01:34:00.560]  I want to know who told the clerk not to record.
[01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:01.560]  And that's where we're going to find out.
[01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:06.560]  As a matter of fact, I'm actually, I'm not where I want to be yet,
[01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:09.560]  but this is as we go all over it.
[01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:12.560]  So I already got some RICO stuff, and I'm studying RICO,
[01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:17.560]  the charges I'm refining, because the whole point is that,
[01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:21.560]  and I know why they went through great lengths to have me not record this,
[01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:28.560]  not that I have, but my point is that because if I'm able to prove that these
[01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:34.560]  officers and the city and all these basically corporations are doing this
[01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:39.560]  with people without real authority, purporting to be government agencies
[01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:42.560]  when they're in fact not because they're listed on Dun & Bradstreet
[01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:48.560]  as private corporations for profit, it's basically they're accumulating legal
[01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.560]  process, and that's exactly what I'm going to allege.
[01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:55.560]  And so they're just, you know, they opened a whole can of worms by not just
[01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.560]  dismissing these seven charges, because in the end it would have been like
[01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:04.560]  a couple, maybe what, $2,000 I would have to pay for seven, no registration,
[01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:06.560]  and because my lie was out or whatever.
[01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:09.560]  Wait until I come after them for doing what they're doing.
[01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:11.560]  It's not going to be no $2,000, I'll tell you that.
[01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:13.560]  So in the end they're losing.
[01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:16.560]  They're already losing as it is, because I made that commissioner go to the back
[01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:21.560]  and get the files because he said, because what I did was first I followed the
[01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:22.560]  motion to dismiss.
[01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:24.560]  Of course he denied it.
[01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:27.560]  In California, luckily, we can demur as well.
[01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:30.560]  It says you can either plead guilty, not guilty, and then it has like six types
[01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:35.560]  of pleadings, and one of them is to demur, which means to object to the whole
[01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:37.560]  process, which I'm going to object.
[01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.560]  I might agree by saying I'm guilty.
[01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.560]  You know, I don't agree with the facts, but it still applies to me.
[01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:43.560]  No, I'm saying it.
[01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:45.560]  I don't agree with the facts, and I don't agree that it applies to me.
[01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:47.560]  And if it does, show me where it says that.
[01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:51.560]  There's a prosecutor that in my other case was trying to say, you know, I had
[01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:54.560]  done this and done that, and I said, for the record, I object.
[01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.560]  I said, I don't know who this man is, and there's nothing in evidence showing
[01:35:57.560 --> 01:35:59.560]  he can represent anybody but himself.
[01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.560]  He got real upset when I said that, but it's true.
[01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.560]  They're trying to move forward without any facts except for the notice to appear
[01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:08.560]  or citation in any state.
[01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:12.560]  They want to call it a summons or whatever they want to call it in the end.
[01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:13.560]  That's all there is there.
[01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:17.560]  So when the cop starts talking out of his mouth anything that he saw you driving
[01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:19.560]  or doing anything, that's when the first thing is I object.
[01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:23.560]  These are facts, not an evidence, and I didn't have enough adequate time to
[01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:26.560]  prepare to defend myself, which is a violation of due process.
[01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.560]  Because when I file a motion, I've got to give them a certain amount of time.
[01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.560]  But when they start saying certain things, I haven't had time to prepare.
[01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.560]  And that's exactly how they do it every time.
[01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:37.560]  So I just want everybody to know that.
[01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:39.560]  That's exactly what's going on.
[01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:42.560]  Rick, you are having entirely too much fun.
[01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:43.560]  Yeah.
[01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:44.560]  Yeah.
[01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:46.560]  So I want to thank you guys.
[01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:50.560]  I remember back in the days when I was just starting, I was, you know, I was also
[01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:54.560]  doing this sovereignty stuff and they captured my straw man.
[01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.560]  And that's one of the things I was agreeing with you when you were talking to
[01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:02.560]  the previous caller about doing all this stuff with Social Security.
[01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.560]  Because I wouldn't doubt it, and I've always said this to many people, it's the
[01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:11.560]  CIA or some governmental agency that's putting out this information.
[01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:16.560]  Because the logic behind it is that when you were born, the government came to
[01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.560]  your parents and tricked them to fill out what's called a birth certificate.
[01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:21.560]  Right?
[01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:25.560]  And then they contracted them basically making a corporation.
[01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:26.560]  You know?
[01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:29.560]  And they committed fraud by saying, and even coercionist, because in some states
[01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:31.560]  if you don't sign it, guess what?
[01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:32.560]  They want to give you your child.
[01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.560]  They'll say, well, then, you know, we've got to make sure you're not crazy.
[01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:36.560]  And so they'll keep your child.
[01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:39.560]  So it's pretty much coercion and intimidation tactics.
[01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:44.560]  But the part that really I get lost is when they say, well, I got older and then
[01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:49.560]  I understand now that it wasn't right and it wasn't true and so therefore I'm
[01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:52.560]  going to capture the corporate name or the corporation, whatever they want to
[01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:53.560]  call it.
[01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:57.560]  Well, I ask them, were you a party to that contract?
[01:37:57.560 --> 01:37:58.560]  Is your name there?
[01:37:58.560 --> 01:37:59.560]  Well, that's my name.
[01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:03.560]  No, that's the name the government created or your parents created, and the
[01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:05.560]  government forced them to make the corporation.
[01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:06.560]  So are you a party to the contract?
[01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.560]  Even if you were, are you of legal age?
[01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:10.560]  No.
[01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:11.560]  So that's not even yours to begin with.
[01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:13.560]  How do you want to go and claim that it's yours?
[01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:15.560]  That's fraud right there.
[01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:18.560]  Then they say if you want to follow UCC anything, you've got to do it in the
[01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:20.560]  mail, making you commit mail fraud.
[01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.560]  So, I mean, I haven't seen anybody come forward with any kind of evidence that
[01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:24.560]  it works.
[01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.560]  And there's millions of people following this advice without any proof of it
[01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:29.560]  even being legit.
[01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:33.560]  So, I mean, I'm not saying it's not, but until I see proof, I'm not going to
[01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.560]  believe just anything because I've been told many different things, you know,
[01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:37.560]  so.
[01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.560]  But I want to thank you guys once again for having this show and helping people
[01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.560]  like me grow as much as I have so far.
[01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:51.560]  Well, I can't tell you how good it is to hear you at this level.
[01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:54.560]  You sound like me.
[01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.560]  You actually sound better than me.
[01:38:56.560 --> 01:38:57.560]  No, I doubt it.
[01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:02.560]  Well, it really is awesome to hear the callers and the listeners progress over
[01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:06.560]  time because we're coming up on our three-year anniversary here of doing this
[01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:12.560]  show, and people call in, you know, over the months, over the years, and they
[01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:16.560]  start off, and they may be a little scared or may be really, really scared
[01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:20.560]  and don't have that much knowledge, and they study and learn and grow.
[01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:25.560]  And, you know, it's like our song Buttons, you know, that Jerry wrote.
[01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:29.560]  It's like first you're crawling, then you're walking, and then you start
[01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:30.560]  strutting.
[01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:34.560]  I say Rick's about to the strutting stage right about now.
[01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:39.560]  The interesting thing about Rick is he called in, and he asked questions,
[01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:47.560]  asked what to do, and we told him what to do, and he actually went and did it.
[01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:49.560]  That was surprising.
[01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:53.560]  A lot of times we get a lot of these questions, but actually it's getting
[01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:54.560]  better lately.
[01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.560]  Early on we had a lot of people asking what to do, and they never did
[01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:59.560]  anything.
[01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:05.560]  Now our listeners seem to be getting a lot more sophisticated, and it's very
[01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:10.560]  pleasing to see this growth, and I'm real pleased with you, Rick.
[01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.560]  Well, I want to thank you guys once again for having me on and for helping
[01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:15.560]  me for as long as you guys have.
[01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:18.560]  It's been about, I think, three years, almost that I've been calling.
[01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:21.560]  Yeah, well, Rick, you're making us look good.
[01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:23.560]  Thanks.
[01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:24.560]  That's my pleasure.
[01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:25.560]  All right.
[01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:26.560]  Well, thanks, Rick.
[01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:32.560]  Yeah, the best compliment to the master is to be exceeded by the student.
[01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:35.560]  Well, thank you guys once again, and you guys have a great night.
[01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.560]  I'll be listening.
[01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:39.560]  All right.
[01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:41.560]  Thanks, Rick.
[01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:45.560]  Okay, we're going to continue on to the calls.
[01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:50.560]  We are going now to Dan in Connecticut.
[01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:51.560]  Dan, thanks for calling in.
[01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:53.560]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.560]  Oh, Lord knows I needed to hear a guy like that.
[01:40:56.560 --> 01:40:58.560]  Nothing like a good pick-me-up when you need it.
[01:40:58.560 --> 01:40:59.560]  Absolutely.
[01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.560]  In fact, I was thinking of some of Jerry's lyrics where it says,
[01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:08.560]  the teacher at the foot of the student one day must sit.
[01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:13.560]  But, yeah, I have a hypothetical question for you.
[01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:14.560]  Are you ready?
[01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:15.560]  Go ahead.
[01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:17.560]  Did you want a hypothetical answer or a real one?
[01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:19.560]  Oh, no, this is just a hypothetical one.
[01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.560]  Then we'll go into the real one, which is the next one.
[01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:26.560]  What if I told you that I would give you $5 for every Republican voter
[01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:29.560]  you signed up?
[01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:32.560]  Would you look at me funny like I was doing something illegal?
[01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:33.560]  Sure would.
[01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:37.560]  I'd say we're both going to go to jail.
[01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:38.560]  Okay, next question.
[01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:40.560]  What if my name was Linda McMahon,
[01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:45.560]  candidate for Senate running against Peter Schiff?
[01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.560]  I suspect there's more to this story.
[01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:52.560]  Yeah, as a matter of fact, it was published in the Greenwich Times
[01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:56.560]  just yesterday, I believe.
[01:41:56.560 --> 01:42:00.560]  And who has not pressed charges against her yet?
[01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:08.560]  I just got the email today, and I'm like, man, somebody is really dumb.
[01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:14.560]  I'm just tempted to go ahead and do it, you know, just for yucks.
[01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:15.560]  I would.
[01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.560]  I'd have started that the moment I found out about it.
[01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:22.560]  Yeah, which was about 15 minutes ago for me.
[01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:25.560]  It's Friday, court's closed.
[01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:29.560]  So she's paying $5 per vote?
[01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:34.560]  No, she's paying $5 for everyone who signs up.
[01:42:34.560 --> 01:42:36.560]  It sounds like in the Republican Party.
[01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:39.560]  That's not paying $5 per vote.
[01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:40.560]  That's different.
[01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:42.560]  Oh, I misunderstood.
[01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:47.560]  Paying $5 for every person that I guess she's offering, you know,
[01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:50.560]  her crew or whoever, every person that you can get signed up
[01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:53.560]  to be a member of the Republican Party, you get $5.
[01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:55.560]  That doesn't mean you're going to vote for her.
[01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:56.560]  Oh, yeah.
[01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.560]  I don't know if that's illegal or not.
[01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:03.560]  Connecticut, it is illegal to encourage people to register one way
[01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:05.560]  or the other when you do it.
[01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:08.560]  But I'm just kind of looking at, you know, the whole arrangement.
[01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:13.560]  I mean, it's really in the gray area, you know, but I'm kind of looking at that.
[01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:18.560]  I know Peter Schiff's spokesman said that was a bit acornish.
[01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:20.560]  Acornish.
[01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:26.560]  Well, acorn, if it was acorn, they wouldn't be offering you $5.
[01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:33.560]  They would be saying, I'm going to take $50 out of your wallet if you don't do it.
[01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:36.560]  They're a lot more terroristic.
[01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:40.560]  They're not into bribery as much as they are into threats.
[01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:43.560]  But Dan, why don't you hang on to the other side?
[01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:44.560]  Okay.
[01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:45.560]  Okay.
[01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:47.560]  And then we've got Marcus from Virginia after that.
[01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:48.560]  We will be right back.
[01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:50.560]  This is the rule of law.
[01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.560]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens.
[01:43:53.560 --> 01:44:00.560]  We'll be right back.
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[01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:31.560]  Final segment coming in the homestretch here.
[01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:33.560]  We're speaking with Dan in Connecticut.
[01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:34.560]  Okay, go ahead, Dan.
[01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:35.560]  Please continue.
[01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:40.560]  Yeah, I just thought that was crazy and you might get some mild amusement out of it.
[01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:42.560]  I know I sure did.
[01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:46.560]  Well, Dan, is your state an open primary state or a closed primary state?
[01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:47.560]  Closed primary state.
[01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:48.560]  Oh, boy.
[01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:53.560]  So, yeah, that certainly does not bode well, I would say.
[01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:55.560]  Because if it was open primary state, that's different.
[01:45:55.560 --> 01:46:02.560]  But seeing as it's a closed primary state, you know, then that kind of makes it so that you,
[01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:06.560]  if you're registered in the Republican Party or the Democratic Party or whatever,
[01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:11.560]  well, then you're pretty much guaranteed to at least vote in that party's primary,
[01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:13.560]  not necessarily for that particular candidate.
[01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:16.560]  But still, it makes the whole thing look a lot worse.
[01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:19.560]  And you're saying you're pretty sure it's illegal.
[01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:25.560]  Yeah, on top of that, they're pretty much going into the temporary rule space on the convention
[01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:27.560]  that happens next month.
[01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:31.560]  And if you got enlisted in Connecticut and you're a Republican and you're for shift,
[01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:34.560]  you should make noise about the following items.
[01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:37.560]  One, including a rule that will be slipped in last minute,
[01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:40.560]  which will pretty much say if you participate in the convention,
[01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:45.560]  you are barred from trying to, you know, petition to get on the primary ballot.
[01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:50.560]  Rule number two they want to put in, which was just discussed yesterday.
[01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:52.560]  I got word from an insider in there.
[01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:56.560]  They actually want to put a rule in where they would do away with a secret ballot,
[01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:01.560]  and it would basically be, you know, everybody knows how everybody voted as far as delegates go.
[01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:06.560]  And another rule they want to put in is the guy who gets the least amount of votes
[01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:09.560]  on one round of voting is automatically knocked out,
[01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:14.560]  so he can't participate in the next round of voting at the convention.
[01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:16.560]  So between all of those three things,
[01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:21.560]  it's pretty much a design just to lock anybody they don't like out.
[01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:23.560]  Yeah, and to lock in incumbents, too.
[01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:25.560]  It's a typical pyramid scheme.
[01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:30.560]  Yeah, you know, and on top of that, basically the word on the inside is they want McManon
[01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:32.560]  because they know she's not going to win,
[01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:40.560]  but basically she's got so much money that it's going to, like, lift all the Republican votes.
[01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:41.560]  Crazy.
[01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:44.560]  But, yeah, anyway, I'll let you go because I know you've got another call
[01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:47.560]  and you're going toward the end of the show, but, yeah, just wanted to let you know.
[01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:48.560]  All right.
[01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:49.560]  Well, thanks, Dan.
[01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:50.560]  We appreciate that.
[01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:52.560]  Yeah, it just gets crazier every day.
[01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:55.560]  You may want to call into Richard Reeves' Outside the Box politics
[01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:57.560]  and talk about that on Wednesday.
[01:47:57.560 --> 01:47:59.560]  Yeah, I'll see if I can do that.
[01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:01.560]  But, yeah, that's something that, you know,
[01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:06.560]  somebody needs to make noise about all of that, like, right now in hopes of preventing it.
[01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:07.560]  Indeed.
[01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:08.560]  All right.
[01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:09.560]  Talk to you later.
[01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:10.560]  All right.
[01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:11.560]  Okay.
[01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:14.560]  We're going now to Marcus in Virginia.
[01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:15.560]  Marcus, thanks for calling in.
[01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:17.560]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:19.560]  Well, thanks for taking my call.
[01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:20.560]  Can you hear me?
[01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:21.560]  Oh, of course.
[01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:22.560]  Go ahead.
[01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:23.560]  Okay.
[01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.560]  I've got another question for you.
[01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:28.560]  Oh, I'm out of time.
[01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:37.560]  Anyway, if you're in court on a traffic ticket case and you got a jury trial there,
[01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:47.560]  how would you go about demonstrating that the ticket is void for purposes of incriminating yourself?
[01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:52.560]  What's the best way to go about that, that you can think of?
[01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:55.560]  I'm not sure I understand the question.
[01:48:55.560 --> 01:49:01.560]  If you want to demonstrate in court that this ticket is void for incriminating yourself,
[01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:03.560]  well, explain that.
[01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:06.560]  What do you mean it's void for incriminating yourself?
[01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:09.560]  Well, I don't want to incriminate myself.
[01:49:09.560 --> 01:49:15.560]  The only thing there in the court record is the ticket.
[01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.560]  I've got my signature on it.
[01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:23.560]  Yeah, but your signature is not an admission.
[01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:27.560]  How is this admitted into the court?
[01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:29.560]  Is it just evidence?
[01:49:29.560 --> 01:49:32.560]  Is it a complaint?
[01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:36.560]  Because apparently it's the only thing there that's being used against you.
[01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:37.560]  There's nothing else.
[01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:41.560]  Well, it's submitted by some person who makes the accusation.
[01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:43.560]  That's a criminal accusation.
[01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:44.560]  What state are you in?
[01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:46.560]  Yeah, but they don't sign it.
[01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:47.560]  What state are you in?
[01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:51.560]  Texas, but in Virginia there's no signature but your own.
[01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:57.560]  Well, then you can certainly challenge the sufficiency of the complaint.
[01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:58.560]  It depends on Virginia law.
[01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:02.560]  I don't know how it's written, but generally you have to have a complaint,
[01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:08.560]  and a complaint is not a complaint unless it's verified or affirmed.
[01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:12.560]  Yeah, but somehow they're taking this thing as a complaint.
[01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.560]  I want it voided as a...
[01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:20.560]  Have you looked at the statute to see what the requirements of a complaint are?
[01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:26.560]  What constitutes a valid complaint?
[01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:30.560]  I don't know, but apparently the judge is looking at this thing.
[01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:32.560]  Well, I'm not worried about what the apparently part is.
[01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:34.560]  That's not the concern here.
[01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:40.560]  The concern here is what does the law say constitutes a valid complaint?
[01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:42.560]  That's all you should be worried about.
[01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:48.560]  And if what they're producing in court does not match what the law says is an absolute requirement,
[01:50:48.560 --> 01:50:50.560]  then it's not valid.
[01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:53.560]  If it's not valid, there's no case,
[01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:58.560]  because without a charging instrument or a complaint or whatever they want to call it in Virginia
[01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:03.560]  that comes out in accordance with the law, there's nothing there.
[01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:05.560]  It's useless.
[01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:06.560]  Okay.
[01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:14.560]  But unless you press that issue, it's not going to make any difference to anybody.
[01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.560]  Well, if they're not looking at that one document as a complaint,
[01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:20.560]  then what are they using as a complaint?
[01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:23.560]  Well, they're probably using that as a complaint,
[01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:29.560]  but before you can make the defense or the argument,
[01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:34.560]  you need to know what the law is supporting your position.
[01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:42.560]  And the fact that your signature is on the citation has nothing to do with anything,
[01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.560]  because your signature is not an omission of guilt.
[01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.560]  It's not anything other than a promise to appear.
[01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:51.560]  Well, I have to bring up something here.
[01:51:51.560 --> 01:51:54.560]  Yeah, I think it is an omission of a violation.
[01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:56.560]  No, it's nothing.
[01:51:56.560 --> 01:52:01.560]  It is not an omission of anything.
[01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:08.560]  Well, it's only prima facie evidence that you were standing in front of a police officer
[01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:14.560]  who had you sign this, that you can establish that, but it's not a...
[01:52:14.560 --> 01:52:17.560]  It's not an omission of any kind.
[01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:18.560]  You can't change that.
[01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:22.560]  I've heard other guys talk about, don't sign the ticket, and I want to...
[01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:24.560]  Well, I'm not saying don't sign the ticket.
[01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:28.560]  I just want to demonstrate that this thing...
[01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:36.560]  I want to demonstrate to the jury that this thing is not valid for purposes of incriminating.
[01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:41.560]  Well, it's not there for the purpose of incriminating you.
[01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:46.560]  The only reason you even got a copy of it was because anytime you sign a contract of anything,
[01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:48.560]  they're required to provide you with a copy.
[01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.560]  You signed a promise to appear in court.
[01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:52.560]  That's what you're doing.
[01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:55.560]  But this is the only document in the record.
[01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:58.560]  So that's the only thing that's there that could be taken that way.
[01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.560]  Okay, we got that part.
[01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:01.560]  That part's not the question.
[01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.560]  We're aware it's the only document in the record.
[01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:09.560]  The problem is, what other documents does the law say is required to be there?
[01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:11.560]  That's the part you're missing.
[01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:13.560]  That's the part you're not looking to find.
[01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:18.560]  That's what you have to find because until you know what the law requires,
[01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:22.560]  how are you going to sit there and argue that it's wrong?
[01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:25.560]  That makes no more sense than a cop sitting on the stand saying,
[01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:27.560]  I don't have to know what the law is.
[01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:28.560]  I don't have to read the law.
[01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:32.560]  I just have to enforce the law.
[01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:34.560]  You're making an argument that it's not valid,
[01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:39.560]  but you have no information backing yourself up to say why it's not valid.
[01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:42.560]  You see the problem?
[01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:45.560]  Well, that's by looking at the court rules.
[01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:47.560]  The court rules is not the law.
[01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:49.560]  The court rules is how the court operates.
[01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:51.560]  You're talking two different things here.
[01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:55.560]  The law, the statute says what is required.
[01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:59.560]  Yeah, and that will be, you'll have to have a criminal procedure code.
[01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:03.560]  Yeah, and you may want to look into the California transportation code.
[01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:04.560]  No, he's in Virginia.
[01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:08.560]  I'm sorry, the Virginia transportation code.
[01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:15.560]  Okay, well, how do I explain this?
[01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:22.560]  I'm saying that this Virginia uniform summons may be a summons in the law,
[01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:29.560]  but it's not a summons according to court rules.
[01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:30.560]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:33.560]  Now you swap destinations here.
[01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:35.560]  You've gone from a complaint to a summons.
[01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:37.560]  Again, not the same thing.
[01:54:37.560 --> 01:54:40.560]  Don't serve the same purpose, not need the same way,
[01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:42.560]  not issued the same way, not delivered the same way.
[01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:43.560]  Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:46.560]  There might be some merit there.
[01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:51.560]  Is that document considered simply a summons,
[01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:56.560]  and is it intended that there will be a valid complaint,
[01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:02.560]  or is the citation used as the charging instrument in Virginia?
[01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:07.560]  Well, I remember talking to a lawyer one time and they asked me what this thing is,
[01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:09.560]  and he says it's a charging instrument.
[01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:11.560]  Is this a complaint?
[01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:17.560]  And he just told me it's a charging instrument, but he wouldn't give me any more explanation of that.
[01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:21.560]  If it is considered by Virginia law as a charging instrument,
[01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:28.560]  then you want to test the sufficiency of the instrument without a signature.
[01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:34.560]  On top of that, don't trust a lawyer to be telling you the truth about it being a charging instrument either.
[01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:41.560]  You need to see what the state constitution and what the law says a valid charging instrument is,
[01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:45.560]  because here in Texas they try to say that the complaint is a valid charging instrument,
[01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:53.560]  and it's not, not according to the state constitution, nor the code of criminal procedure.
[01:55:53.560 --> 01:56:01.560]  It's very clear that only an indictment or an information is a valid charging instrument here in Texas.
[01:56:01.560 --> 01:56:03.560]  Oh, yeah, I understand all that.
[01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:04.560]  I'm just...
[01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:05.560]  It sounds like you're...
[01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:12.560]  You know, if you're trying to explain this to a jury, how would you go about that,
[01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:16.560]  saying that, you know, the only thing you got there is that ticket.
[01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:19.560]  The jury won't have anything to do with that.
[01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:22.560]  The judge is required to know that it's valid or invalid,
[01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:25.560]  and you're required to bring that up with him.
[01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:27.560]  That won't go before the jury.
[01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:32.560]  What I'm saying is that the judge is the one who's misrepresenting
[01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:38.560]  or mistaking this document as something other than what it was filed at.
[01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:40.560]  Well, then you have to come in with...
[01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:41.560]  Convince him.
[01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:43.560]  Wait a minute, you can't convince him.
[01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:48.560]  You haven't given us anything you could convince him with.
[01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:49.560]  You haven't even made that...
[01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:51.560]  I'm trying to convince the judge.
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:57.560]  I'm saying that the judge is intentionally misleading the court and the jury.
[01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.560]  What is he misleading?
[01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:05.560]  He's taking that thing as if it's a complaint or it's a charging instrument.
[01:57:05.560 --> 01:57:09.560]  How do you know that it's not?
[01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:11.560]  Well, I want to avoid it for that purpose.
[01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:12.560]  I want to...
[01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:18.560]  Well, but if without looking at what the law says is or isn't,
[01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:24.560]  then you're fighting blind with your hands tied, your feet hobbled,
[01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:25.560]  and at the bottom of a lake.
[01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:28.560]  Yeah, you have to follow the law the way it is,
[01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:32.560]  and it may not be the way you want it to be,
[01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.560]  but there's always other ways of going around it.
[01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:39.560]  The fact that your signature's on it will not amount to testimony,
[01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:45.560]  but the fact that it's not signed, that would amount to something.
[01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:47.560]  Well, it's not signed by the officer, yeah.
[01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:50.560]  So you have no accuser, and that goes to Constitution.
[01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:56.560]  So you can challenge the validity of the instrument.
[01:57:56.560 --> 01:57:58.560]  Okay.
[01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:00.560]  Yeah, but that's not going to always be the case.
[01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:04.560]  You still should know what the law says as to whether or not
[01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:10.560]  it's a valid charging instrument under law, if it is signed, that is.
[01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:16.560]  You'd have to look that up in the code.
[01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:17.560]  Okay.
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:18.560]  Okay.
[01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:23.560]  I haven't seen anything that addresses that in the criminal procedure code.
[01:58:23.560 --> 01:58:27.560]  You may need to look in the transportation code or the penal code.
[01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:28.560]  Okay.
[01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:29.560]  Yeah, okay.
[01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:30.560]  Okay.
[01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:31.560]  All right.
[01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:32.560]  All right.
[01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:33.560]  Thank you, Marcus.
[01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:34.560]  Sure.
[01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:35.560]  Okay.
[01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:36.560]  We're at the end of the show.
[01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:37.560]  Thank you, callers.
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[01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:55.560]  Now have a good weekend.
[01:58:55.560 --> 01:59:23.560]  Thank you.
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