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[00:00.000 --> 00:09.640] Some 50,000 new housing units in Jerusalem neighborhoods beyond the Green Line are in
[00:09.640 --> 00:12.520] various states of planning and approval.
[00:12.520 --> 00:17.520] Most of the units will be built in predominantly Jewish neighborhoods beyond the Green Line,
[00:17.520 --> 00:20.960] while a smaller number will be built in Arab neighborhoods.
[00:20.960 --> 00:26.640] Vice President Joe Biden condemned the move, saying the decision undermined peace talks.
[00:26.640 --> 00:31.480] The U.S. State Department Friday issued its annual Human Rights Report, and once again
[00:31.480 --> 00:37.440] the human rights situation in America's two largest battlegrounds, Afghanistan and Iraq,
[00:37.440 --> 00:39.140] continued to worsen.
[00:39.140 --> 00:44.720] The Afghanistan report focused on the civilians killed, blaming the Taliban for the increase
[00:44.720 --> 00:46.440] in civilian deaths.
[00:46.440 --> 00:52.960] It also pointed out human trafficking, restrictions on press and religion, torture and poor prison
[00:52.960 --> 00:54.320] conditions.
[00:54.320 --> 01:04.240] In Somalia, a brief mention was given to the massive civilian toll from NATO airstrikes.
[01:04.240 --> 01:10.920] In Somalia, 43 people were killed and hundreds wounded in the past 48 hours as dueling offensives
[01:10.920 --> 01:16.320] by the African Union-backed Somali government and the militant faction led to some of the
[01:16.320 --> 01:19.160] fiercest fighting in weeks.
[01:19.160 --> 01:24.600] Most of the casualties were civilians and fighting prevented wounded people from being rescued
[01:24.600 --> 01:27.480] as they lay dying in the street.
[01:27.480 --> 01:33.240] Karl Rove, a senior adviser to former President George Bush, has defended harsh interrogation
[01:33.240 --> 01:38.520] techniques such as waterboarding, saying he was proud of the intelligence the U.S. gained
[01:38.520 --> 01:40.120] from using them.
[01:40.120 --> 01:46.800] Rove was often referred to as Bush's brain and is credited with Bush's electoral successes.
[01:46.800 --> 01:52.480] Last January, Barack Obama barred the use of waterboarding after defining it as a form
[01:52.480 --> 01:57.600] of torture.
[01:57.600 --> 02:03.480] A bank examiner's report says Lehman Brothers used accounting's sleight of hand to conceal
[02:03.480 --> 02:07.120] the bad investments that led to its undoing.
[02:07.120 --> 02:12.640] The report concluded Lehman died from bad mortgage holdings and, less directly, demands
[02:12.640 --> 02:18.640] by rivals like JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup that the Founding Bank post-collateral against
[02:18.640 --> 02:25.240] loans it desperately needed, but the examiner Anton Valloukas laid out what the report characterized
[02:25.240 --> 02:31.200] as, quote, materially misleading accounting gimmicks that Lehman used to mask the perilous
[02:31.200 --> 02:33.200] state of its finances.
[02:33.200 --> 02:38.160] Lehman's bankruptcy, the largest in U.S. history, shook the financial world.
[02:38.160 --> 02:42.960] According to the report, Lehman used what amounted to financial engineering to temporarily
[02:42.960 --> 02:48.800] shuffle $50 billion of troubled assets off its books in the month before its collapse
[02:48.800 --> 02:57.160] in September 2008 to conceal its dependence on borrowed money.
[02:57.160 --> 03:11.840] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
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[04:21.200 --> 04:35.720] All right, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:35.720 --> 04:44.800] This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens coming out of an
[04:44.800 --> 04:52.160] unbelievable weekend, architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth press conference here in Austin.
[04:52.160 --> 05:02.480] I was really working hard to make this event pull off well, and Randy, when I was driving
[05:02.480 --> 05:11.000] home or traveling home, I should say, after setting up Friday night drenched in sweat,
[05:11.000 --> 05:15.720] makeup smeared and running down my face, I hear Randy saying that Deborah has the night
[05:15.720 --> 05:16.720] off.
[05:16.720 --> 05:17.720] Oh, yeah, right.
[05:17.720 --> 05:22.200] I wish I had anything but the night off, I was going to say.
[05:22.200 --> 05:26.520] I don't think so, but at any rate, it was a fantastic event, people.
[05:26.520 --> 05:30.820] We had probably almost 400 people out at the max.
[05:30.820 --> 05:32.320] We had Alice Jones.
[05:32.320 --> 05:33.720] We had Ron Avery.
[05:33.720 --> 05:35.440] We had Dr. Al Hayes.
[05:35.440 --> 05:36.840] Oh, man.
[05:36.840 --> 05:42.480] And Lieutenant Colonel Bob Bowman, but last but not least, and actually wasn't last on
[05:42.480 --> 05:48.240] the list, but I've got to say, Derek Johnson absolutely stole the show.
[05:48.240 --> 05:51.480] I mean, he hit it out of the ballpark.
[05:51.480 --> 05:58.000] He has foiled recent information and splaining, I would say.
[05:58.000 --> 06:03.680] Like Lucy, you got some splaining to do from NIST, brand new material.
[06:03.680 --> 06:06.040] You've got to see this guy's presentation, people.
[06:06.040 --> 06:08.120] We're going to have him on the air, and this is radio.
[06:08.120 --> 06:13.080] At some point, I believe Alex Jones is going to have him in the studio to present his presentation
[06:13.080 --> 06:16.520] again, and the video of the event will be posted soon.
[06:16.520 --> 06:18.600] George Butler is in charge of that video part.
[06:18.600 --> 06:20.440] I have posted the audio.
[06:20.440 --> 06:21.440] It's on the archive page.
[06:21.440 --> 06:26.480] I just got that posted today, but you've got to see this guy's presentation.
[06:26.480 --> 06:34.200] Derek Johnson, EIT, CWI, engineer in training, that means he's got a degree, and he's in
[06:34.200 --> 06:37.920] graduate studies of engineering, and he's a certified welding inspector.
[06:37.920 --> 06:40.880] He's been in the foundry business ever since he was a child.
[06:40.880 --> 06:45.440] His family's been in the foundry business for generations, apparently.
[06:45.440 --> 06:52.360] He has basically extracting, pulling teeth to get more information out of NIST concerning
[06:52.360 --> 06:54.960] their explanation of Building 7.
[06:54.960 --> 07:00.800] You should see the cartoon modeling images, like little video, the cartoon video that
[07:00.800 --> 07:06.880] NIST gave him with the official NIST seal on every single frame of this video, people,
[07:06.880 --> 07:16.440] and it shows gigantic beams hanging in midair and spinning outside the building for many
[07:16.440 --> 07:25.160] seconds before gently cascading down the ground, and we're like, what is that?
[07:25.160 --> 07:31.280] Derek said, what are these people, you know, teenagers smoking bong hits could have come
[07:31.280 --> 07:32.880] up with something better than this.
[07:32.880 --> 07:35.360] I mean, unbelievable people.
[07:35.360 --> 07:40.480] This is what the government would expect us to believe, that gigantic steel beam girders
[07:40.480 --> 07:45.760] are like defying the laws of gravity, spinning in midair and like floating around.
[07:45.760 --> 07:50.440] Okay, this is the government NIST report of Building 7.
[07:50.440 --> 07:53.800] At any rate, you guys got to hear his presentation.
[07:53.800 --> 07:55.400] You got to see his presentation.
[07:55.400 --> 07:57.480] Derek absolutely stole the show.
[07:57.480 --> 07:59.240] I was way, way, way impressed.
[07:59.240 --> 08:02.120] Randy, what did you think?
[08:02.120 --> 08:06.180] I think enthralled was the term.
[08:06.180 --> 08:09.520] We had our setup in the back, but that was too far away.
[08:09.520 --> 08:14.320] I had to go down and sit in the audience and get up closer so I could, at my age, you don't
[08:14.320 --> 08:16.960] see so far so well, but it was...
[08:16.960 --> 08:22.640] We had the, his PowerPoint presentation was like on this gigantic screen, Randy.
[08:22.640 --> 08:25.920] Well, it was out of focus.
[08:25.920 --> 08:28.800] A little bit out of focus for Randy.
[08:28.800 --> 08:34.480] Anybody out there my age knows the problem, but it was a very technical...
[08:34.480 --> 08:36.360] That's what I came for.
[08:36.360 --> 08:44.080] This was an engineer treating this from an engineer's perspective, and he gave real hard
[08:44.080 --> 08:50.120] data, not just hard, hard to controvert.
[08:50.120 --> 08:56.200] I wouldn't want to be the guy sitting on the other side having proposed the nonsense that
[08:56.200 --> 08:57.200] Derek was dealing with.
[08:57.200 --> 08:58.200] Oh my goodness.
[08:58.200 --> 08:59.200] Extremely well done.
[08:59.200 --> 09:00.400] Absolutely amazing.
[09:00.400 --> 09:03.940] We got to have him on as a guest.
[09:03.940 --> 09:08.880] We had an interview, a post-event interview with him, and also we went out to dinner with
[09:08.880 --> 09:14.480] him and the whole crew afterwards, and we were asking him how he got into this, and
[09:14.480 --> 09:18.160] he didn't start off as some big 9-11 truther.
[09:18.160 --> 09:23.400] He comes from a hardcore engineering background, foundry background, and he really wanted the
[09:23.400 --> 09:30.920] official story to be true, but he had to analyze all the data, and it just became obvious which
[09:30.920 --> 09:36.920] side he had to fall on, and now he's having to deal with his colleagues, and having to
[09:36.920 --> 09:40.920] deal with this nonsense, government, NIST report.
[09:40.920 --> 09:44.920] It's just absolutely outrageous what they would have people believe.
[09:44.920 --> 09:49.040] Anybody in their right mind could possibly believe this.
[09:49.040 --> 09:54.280] The way Derek said that it was like when he was reading this over, he said what NIST did
[09:54.280 --> 09:59.520] was draw a tinker toy model and throw a brick at it, and said that that's what happened.
[09:59.520 --> 10:06.840] He's waiting for Wile E. Coyote to come traipsing through their little video with the plunger.
[10:06.840 --> 10:08.880] Seriously, that's how bad it is, folks.
[10:08.880 --> 10:10.880] They didn't even try.
[10:10.880 --> 10:15.640] They probably slapped the whole thing together in ten minutes right before the FedEx man
[10:15.640 --> 10:22.240] was due to show up to deliver the FOIA, because he got this from FOIA, and the government
[10:22.240 --> 10:24.800] agencies always wait until the last minute.
[10:24.800 --> 10:28.080] That's why they always have to FedEx the FOIAs.
[10:28.080 --> 10:29.280] That's probably how bad it was.
[10:29.280 --> 10:30.280] Go ahead, Eddie.
[10:30.280 --> 10:34.300] Well, the thing is, you've got to remember, this is the same government that gave us the
[10:34.300 --> 10:38.160] magic bullet theory in the Kennedy assassination.
[10:38.160 --> 10:44.040] The bullet that makes two 90-degree turns, hangs in midair for a second and a half before
[10:44.040 --> 10:47.400] it continues on the second turn, and so on and so forth.
[10:47.400 --> 10:49.320] Why wouldn't they think we would buy it?
[10:49.320 --> 10:50.320] Yeah.
[10:50.320 --> 10:54.480] Well, we ain't buying it, and he made some really good points at dinner about not wanting
[10:54.480 --> 11:00.560] the 9-11 tooth movement to get stuck in the mud, kind of like what happened with the investigation
[11:00.560 --> 11:06.000] of what happened with JFK, where it's kind of like, okay, it's however many decades later,
[11:06.000 --> 11:10.320] and yeah, everybody knows the government did it, but there's really nothing that can be
[11:10.320 --> 11:15.160] done about it, because all the perps are dead, and it's just one of those things like, well,
[11:15.160 --> 11:18.040] yeah, everybody knows, but so what?
[11:18.040 --> 11:23.560] We don't want it to be like that, and so Derek was talking about the elemental analysis,
[11:23.560 --> 11:30.600] the free elemental analysis, where there are files where anyone can run it through this
[11:30.600 --> 11:38.560] particular type of software to come up with the analysis, and NISS will not give him the
[11:38.560 --> 11:44.360] garbage in so that he can crank the garbage out, and so that's what he's working on right
[11:44.360 --> 11:49.160] now, and we're just going to have to take this to the next level, but at any rate, just
[11:49.160 --> 11:52.680] wanted to report that it was a fantastic event.
[11:52.680 --> 11:57.400] If we had had about another week to promote it, we would have packed the place out, but
[11:57.400 --> 12:02.760] I just found out about it a week before the event, and originally Ron was planning on
[12:02.760 --> 12:06.720] just having it as a small event, and I said, no, no, no, no, no, what is this?
[12:06.720 --> 12:11.840] You're getting a room for 40 people, no, that's not, no, we got to do this, we got to broadcast
[12:11.840 --> 12:19.600] it and get other guest speakers, and so I was able to contact the Infowars team, and
[12:19.600 --> 12:26.040] they got Alex Jones to come be a speaker, and so the whole thing, I think, was a fantastic
[12:26.040 --> 12:32.040] success, it was broadcast on AM and FM stations all over the country, and it was also streamed
[12:32.040 --> 12:36.440] live video, the video archive will be posted soon, I've got the audio archive already,
[12:36.440 --> 12:42.000] I want to thank all the affiliates out there, Madison, Wisconsin, we've got St. Louis, just
[12:42.000 --> 12:47.880] got an email from the affiliate in St. Louis saying it was a colossal broadcast, got affiliates
[12:47.880 --> 12:51.640] in Idaho, we've got affiliates all over the Midwest that broadcast the event, want to
[12:51.640 --> 12:56.560] thank them, and we certainly hope that a lot of people got a lot of new information that
[12:56.560 --> 13:02.400] they had never seen or heard before, I certainly did, especially from Derek Johnson, just amazing.
[13:02.400 --> 13:06.640] So just wanted to give that little recap and thank Chris Emery and Kay Beach for coming
[13:06.640 --> 13:10.560] out from Oklahoma City, they really, really helped out, I don't know how I would have
[13:10.560 --> 13:16.640] done it without you guys, Randy, you and Kay and Chris, because I was expecting that I
[13:16.640 --> 13:21.000] was going to be broadcasting and doing the commentary in between the speakers, but since
[13:21.000 --> 13:25.280] I was also running live sound and people were demanding of me to help with the video and
[13:25.280 --> 13:29.440] the lighting and everything else, I mean, there was hardly time for me to be on the
[13:29.440 --> 13:34.520] mic, so I really appreciate you guys, thanks a lot, really appreciate it, went off very
[13:34.520 --> 13:36.920] well.
[13:36.920 --> 13:43.320] So without further ado, tonight is Monday night, and that means it is traffic night,
[13:43.320 --> 13:49.200] Eddie's night, and apparently you guys were discussing some traffic issues on Friday that
[13:49.200 --> 13:51.120] you wanted to continue with.
[13:51.120 --> 13:58.560] Yeah, we were basically working on the step-by-step outline of the procedures to go through once
[13:58.560 --> 14:00.760] you get a traffic ticket.
[14:00.760 --> 14:06.880] We were having some debate and discussion on each step as we went through it to basically
[14:06.880 --> 14:13.120] enlarge the picture for folks, as you will, so that they can get a better grasp of these
[14:13.120 --> 14:15.640] are the things you do and why you do them.
[14:15.640 --> 14:21.200] So, Randy, where did we leave off in your notes?
[14:21.200 --> 14:31.640] We went to the clerk, and if the records were kept solely on computer, we get a copy of
[14:31.640 --> 14:39.120] – we go within five days of the ticket, get a copy of everything that's in the record,
[14:39.120 --> 14:47.480] two copies, and then file one copy in the record and keep a copy so that we can verify
[14:47.480 --> 14:49.280] what was there at the time.
[14:49.280 --> 14:53.760] Yeah, and don't forget to write your name across the front of anything you file in the
[14:53.760 --> 14:55.000] record.
[14:55.000 --> 14:57.840] Preferably in blue ink.
[14:57.840 --> 15:05.200] And then we asked to be brought before a magistrate, and we'll get some song and dance and seltzer
[15:05.200 --> 15:09.640] down your pants over that.
[15:09.640 --> 15:12.080] Then what's our next step?
[15:12.080 --> 15:13.080] Okay.
[15:13.080 --> 15:15.320] Now, we've asked to see the magistrate.
[15:15.320 --> 15:19.000] Let's presume the magistrate's not available and we're told we have to come back at the
[15:19.000 --> 15:23.280] regular date on the ticket or whatever, which we do.
[15:23.280 --> 15:28.480] But remember that you want to go in the day before you make your actual appearance before
[15:28.480 --> 15:32.720] the magistrate and check the record one more time.
[15:32.720 --> 15:37.860] And you want to get anything new that's been added, same scenario as before.
[15:37.860 --> 15:41.720] If there's nothing in the folder, tell them to check the computer.
[15:41.720 --> 15:43.240] What else is new?
[15:43.240 --> 15:44.880] Give me two copies.
[15:44.880 --> 15:46.960] Write your name across the front of one.
[15:46.960 --> 15:51.080] Tell them to file it in the folder and also get your copy stamped by them that they were
[15:51.080 --> 15:53.640] filed in the folder, okay?
[15:53.640 --> 15:56.500] Always get your copy stamped by the clerk.
[15:56.500 --> 16:02.280] Always make sure they stamp everything that's gone into the folder, okay?
[16:02.280 --> 16:06.680] Now, you go in to see the magistrate.
[16:06.680 --> 16:10.240] Magistrate's going to, very first thing, want to know how to be...
[16:10.240 --> 16:11.240] Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[16:11.240 --> 16:12.240] Wait, hold on.
[16:12.240 --> 16:15.400] Yeah, we're not really going to see the magistrate now.
[16:15.400 --> 16:20.960] We want to see the magistrate, but we're actually going to be going to see a judge.
[16:20.960 --> 16:26.120] Well, that's what the magistrate thinks they're going to be, yes.
[16:26.120 --> 16:33.040] Yeah, they're going to act like a judge and they're going to want you to engage in their
[16:33.040 --> 16:36.360] routine, but you're going to want to have an examining trial.
[16:36.360 --> 16:41.200] Yeah, we'll get back into that on the other side of the break there, folks.
[16:41.200 --> 17:00.800] So hang with us and we'll pick this up on the other side.
[17:00.800 --> 17:05.760] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so
[17:05.760 --> 17:09.480] easy and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[17:09.480 --> 17:12.400] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[17:12.400 --> 17:13.400] Brave New Books?
[17:13.400 --> 17:18.200] Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex
[17:18.200 --> 17:20.760] Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin.
[17:20.760 --> 17:24.200] They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
[17:24.200 --> 17:27.080] There's no way a place like that exists.
[17:27.080 --> 17:28.560] Go check it out for yourself.
[17:28.560 --> 17:32.920] It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[17:32.920 --> 17:36.200] By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[17:36.200 --> 17:41.560] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK Parking
[17:41.560 --> 17:43.600] Facility, just behind the bookstore.
[17:43.600 --> 17:47.480] It does exist, but when are they open?
[17:47.480 --> 17:52.000] Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays.
[17:52.000 --> 18:07.000] So give them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com.
[18:07.000 --> 18:33.360] All right, we asked the questions, and they do not want to give us the answers, but we're
[18:33.360 --> 18:34.360] getting them anyway.
[18:34.360 --> 18:37.280] All right, go ahead, Randy.
[18:37.280 --> 18:45.880] Yeah, I was commenting that when we come back the second time at their direction, they're
[18:45.880 --> 18:50.880] going to expect us to appear before a judge.
[18:50.880 --> 18:53.880] And this is a fine distinction, right?
[18:53.880 --> 18:59.000] He is a judge, but we didn't agree to appear before a judge when we signed the promise
[18:59.000 --> 19:01.120] to appear.
[19:01.120 --> 19:07.720] And the officer was not authorized to release us on our signature for the purpose of appearing
[19:07.720 --> 19:10.080] before a judge.
[19:10.080 --> 19:17.480] He was by statute authorized to release us on our signature to appear before a magistrate.
[19:17.480 --> 19:25.560] Now, this person that we're walking in front of may actually be a judge, but in this instance,
[19:25.560 --> 19:29.440] he's not sitting in the capacity of the judge.
[19:29.440 --> 19:36.720] He is, as far as we're concerned, he must be sitting in the capacity of a magistrate.
[19:36.720 --> 19:40.280] And that's what, and he straightened me out on the break.
[19:40.280 --> 19:45.640] Yeah, what I was going to say is when you go before this dude or lady, then what you're
[19:45.640 --> 19:48.840] going to ask is in what capacity are you sitting?
[19:48.840 --> 19:54.420] Now, I can guarantee you most of them are going to look at you and not have a clue what
[19:54.420 --> 19:56.040] you just asked them.
[19:56.040 --> 20:00.920] It just proves how inept they actually are in most cases, okay?
[20:00.920 --> 20:06.160] But when you say in what capacity are you sitting, and they give you that blank stare,
[20:06.160 --> 20:10.640] are you sitting as a magistrate or are you sitting as a judge?
[20:10.640 --> 20:14.120] And you pay very close to the answer you get.
[20:14.120 --> 20:21.560] If they say anything other than sitting as a magistrate, okay, then you're going to object.
[20:21.560 --> 20:23.360] Objection.
[20:23.360 --> 20:27.120] I was ordered to appear before a magistrate.
[20:27.120 --> 20:32.360] The duties of a magistrate and a judge are different, which I am sure, Judge, you are
[20:32.360 --> 20:33.800] well aware.
[20:33.800 --> 20:37.200] So I ask again, in what capacity are you sitting?
[20:37.200 --> 20:42.800] Now, be kind, be nice, you don't have to be gruff and huffy and all that other good stuff.
[20:42.800 --> 20:44.600] Always give them the benefit of the doubt.
[20:44.600 --> 20:49.440] We know they're stupid, but try not to treat them that way, okay?
[20:49.440 --> 20:51.920] Give them the benefit of the doubt.
[20:51.920 --> 20:55.800] If they still insist they're sitting as a judge, then keep objecting.
[20:55.800 --> 20:59.800] Eventually, they're going to get the idea that the statute clearly says that you're
[20:59.800 --> 21:03.960] to appear before someone sitting as a magistrate.
[21:03.960 --> 21:05.960] Bring that to their attention.
[21:05.960 --> 21:07.240] Objection.
[21:07.240 --> 21:14.720] Article 1517, Code of Criminal Procedure specifically states that the magistrate shall inform me
[21:14.720 --> 21:16.880] of my rights.
[21:16.880 --> 21:17.880] And they're going to look at you again.
[21:17.880 --> 21:21.440] Well, you're not here under 1517, really?
[21:21.440 --> 21:24.160] Then under what section am I here?
[21:24.160 --> 21:29.360] Well, you're here under Article 26.
[21:29.360 --> 21:32.040] I'm sorry, I'm here for the purpose of an arraignment.
[21:32.040 --> 21:33.240] I don't understand.
[21:33.240 --> 21:35.040] How can I be here for an arraignment?
[21:35.040 --> 21:41.440] I haven't had a probable cause hearing determination made yet, okay?
[21:41.440 --> 21:46.720] And I can't be here for an arraignment if I was told to appear before a magistrate,
[21:46.720 --> 21:51.720] because I don't believe it's an magistrate that can arraign you, is it, Randy?
[21:51.720 --> 21:52.720] No.
[21:52.720 --> 21:58.880] Only a county judge can arraign you as you and I read the code.
[21:58.880 --> 22:06.840] Well, that was true before, but remember, they've changed it now where they say that
[22:06.840 --> 22:10.880] now you can be ordered back at a later date, okay?
[22:10.880 --> 22:11.880] Let's see.
[22:11.880 --> 22:16.080] After an accused charged, this is 1517B, folks.
[22:16.080 --> 22:19.520] After an accused charged with a misdemeanor punishable of a fine only is taken before
[22:19.520 --> 22:24.400] a magistrate under subsection A and the magistrate has identified the accused with certainty,
[22:24.400 --> 22:28.160] the magistrate may release the accused without bond in order to be accused to appear at a
[22:28.160 --> 22:32.320] later date for arraignment in the applicable justice or municipal court.
[22:32.320 --> 22:36.360] That used to say the county or statutory county court.
[22:36.360 --> 22:42.520] However, it would appear that one of our listeners out there has gone to court and had the district
[22:42.520 --> 22:52.320] attorney admit that a justice court and municipal court can't hold an arraignment.
[22:52.320 --> 22:58.680] I can find no authority in law anywhere other than what they changed in this statute right
[22:58.680 --> 23:06.080] here that says anything about either of those two courts being able to hold an arraignment.
[23:06.080 --> 23:09.160] Absolutely none.
[23:09.160 --> 23:19.960] So where are they granting these courts authority in this one location when, you know, it doesn't
[23:19.960 --> 23:21.600] exist anywhere else?
[23:21.600 --> 23:24.260] And here's their other problem, okay?
[23:24.260 --> 23:26.200] The order of things is messed up.
[23:26.200 --> 23:29.260] Now we've covered this before, okay?
[23:29.260 --> 23:31.680] You get charged.
[23:31.680 --> 23:35.420] You're brought before a magistrate, either or.
[23:35.420 --> 23:45.240] The magistrate has to have a probable cause examination for the purpose of establishing
[23:45.240 --> 23:50.720] whether or not there is enough evidence to proceed to an actual trial.
[23:50.720 --> 23:55.160] The judge is supposed to seal up those records and forward them to the clerk of the court
[23:55.160 --> 23:57.920] after he writes his name across the seal.
[23:57.920 --> 24:03.360] That right there alone negates the possibility of those records being maintained solely on
[24:03.360 --> 24:05.640] the computer.
[24:05.640 --> 24:10.480] If they have been maintained solely on the computer, that means somebody's acting in
[24:10.480 --> 24:14.240] violation of 1517.
[24:14.240 --> 24:19.360] Because the judge can't write his name across the seal of a computer, can he?
[24:19.360 --> 24:20.920] All right?
[24:20.920 --> 24:28.160] Now once the judge does that and forwards that according to the state constitution,
[24:28.160 --> 24:34.080] the next step in the process is that the prosecuting attorney is supposed to reduce this to a bill
[24:34.080 --> 24:42.400] of indictment unless, and only unless, the accused has signed a written waiver of indictment
[24:42.400 --> 24:43.400] pursuant...
[24:43.400 --> 24:49.060] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, he's supposed to reduce it to an information.
[24:49.060 --> 24:51.320] Not according to what the constitution says.
[24:51.320 --> 24:58.600] No, the only one who can, you can only have an indictment.
[24:58.600 --> 25:02.560] I said a bill of indictment.
[25:02.560 --> 25:04.320] What is a bill of indictment?
[25:04.320 --> 25:08.640] Bill of indictment is what the prosecutor is supposed to give to the grand jury according
[25:08.640 --> 25:09.640] to the constitution.
[25:09.640 --> 25:14.560] Well, according to the code, he's supposed to reduce the complaint to an information
[25:14.560 --> 25:19.440] and submit them both to the grand jury.
[25:19.440 --> 25:26.520] So it may be that what they're calling a bill of indictment is actually a information.
[25:26.520 --> 25:28.000] We actually looked that up.
[25:28.000 --> 25:32.200] We've looked up Black's Law's definition of what an information is, what a bill of indictment
[25:32.200 --> 25:34.040] is and what a presentment is.
[25:34.040 --> 25:35.040] And how are they different?
[25:35.040 --> 25:36.040] Okay.
[25:36.040 --> 25:38.720] How is a bill of indictment and information different?
[25:38.720 --> 25:40.800] Okay, this is how they're different.
[25:40.800 --> 25:46.280] A bill of indictment is what the government initiates against the accused and sends to
[25:46.280 --> 25:50.520] the grand jury for the purposes of an indictment, okay?
[25:50.520 --> 25:58.200] And information is what's generated if and only if an indictment waiver has been made.
[25:58.200 --> 26:01.880] Otherwise, there's no information to generate.
[26:01.880 --> 26:03.560] Well, now...
[26:03.560 --> 26:09.440] The presentment is something that's created and presented by a member of the grand jury
[26:09.440 --> 26:12.880] themselves without outside intervention.
[26:12.880 --> 26:18.200] Okay, then that document that once a prosecuting attorney has made known that a crime has been
[26:18.200 --> 26:21.960] committed, he shall reduce the complaint to an information, so it says.
[26:21.960 --> 26:22.960] And if...
[26:22.960 --> 26:27.480] No, he shall reduce the complaint to writing and then make an information and attach it
[26:27.480 --> 26:28.480] there too.
[26:28.480 --> 26:29.480] Okay.
[26:29.480 --> 26:30.960] Yeah, he has the...
[26:30.960 --> 26:34.360] It's not a complaint until it's reduced to writing.
[26:34.360 --> 26:39.160] It's complaining until it's reduced to writing and then he has a criminal complaint and he
[26:39.160 --> 26:48.640] has the witness sign the complaint and then he reduces it to an information.
[26:48.640 --> 26:54.120] So I guess at that point, if he's required to present it to the grand jury, then that
[26:54.120 --> 26:58.720] information will act as a bill of indictment because I can't see it.
[26:58.720 --> 27:01.840] The bill of indictment is going to be essentially exactly the same thing.
[27:01.840 --> 27:05.120] Well, what I think they've actually done, Randy, is what they've done with the rest
[27:05.120 --> 27:06.800] of the statutes.
[27:06.800 --> 27:13.080] What I think they've done is attempted to facilitate the information and use it in place
[27:13.080 --> 27:18.040] of a bill of indictment so that they're not generating two pieces of paper.
[27:18.040 --> 27:25.680] And if they're both substantially the same, then that's not really an issue.
[27:25.680 --> 27:31.320] Well, it could be because one reason that I think it could be is because an information
[27:31.320 --> 27:39.440] presupposes the waiver of the right to an indictment by generating that information
[27:39.440 --> 27:46.840] before it's ever gone to a grand jury and using that information for the purposes of
[27:46.840 --> 27:52.240] garnering the indictment or before the indictment or not giving you one at all, which we know
[27:52.240 --> 27:59.040] they're not doing, plus the fact that when you go into these courts and they tell you
[27:59.040 --> 28:04.880] to sign any document, you need to look that document over carefully because I guarantee
[28:04.880 --> 28:08.160] you that document is going to contain two things on it.
[28:08.160 --> 28:13.360] The accused hereby waives their right to an arraignment and you waive your right to an
[28:13.360 --> 28:19.720] examining trial and quite possibly they're going to try to sneak in the waiver of indictment.
[28:19.720 --> 28:26.120] Now they can't do that if you notice it, but if you never object to it, despite what the
[28:26.120 --> 28:31.880] rules say about it having to be done in open court with counsel present, since they're
[28:31.880 --> 28:38.200] not following the majority of the rules anyway, I don't give them one bit of consensus that
[28:38.200 --> 28:46.440] they'd be willing to follow that rule at all, not if they think they can slip it by.
[28:46.440 --> 28:53.800] But since we know that according to the Constitution, all misdemeanors and felonies require an
[28:53.800 --> 28:57.920] indictment, period, the Constitution is very clear about that.
[28:57.920 --> 29:05.160] Where does the Constitution require a bill of indictment?
[29:05.160 --> 29:10.640] Look at section 17 of Article 5.
[29:10.640 --> 29:23.520] I want to get that sorted out, the subtlety of the differences, so I can make a good argument.
[29:23.520 --> 29:29.280] Now, an information according to Black's law, this is the specific definition out of Black's.
[29:29.280 --> 29:37.360] An accusation exhibited against a person for some criminal offense without an indictment.
[29:37.360 --> 29:38.360] You catch that?
[29:38.360 --> 29:39.360] Without.
[29:39.360 --> 29:40.360] Yes.
[29:40.360 --> 29:53.080] Yes, and okay, we'll get to this after the break, but okay, well, I'll go sort it out.
[29:53.080 --> 29:54.080] Okay.
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[31:27.560 --> 31:52.320] All right.
[31:52.320 --> 31:54.320] We're talking about bills of indictment.
[31:54.320 --> 31:56.320] All right, guys.
[31:56.320 --> 31:59.320] Okay.
[31:59.320 --> 32:04.840] I'm looking at this and looking at the Code of Criminal Procedure, and it requires that
[32:04.840 --> 32:10.640] when a prosecuting attorney is made known to crimes committed, he shall reduce the complaint.
[32:10.640 --> 32:15.960] He shall have the complaint reduced to writing and cause the witness to sign it.
[32:15.960 --> 32:20.600] Then he shall reduce the complaint from information, submit them both to the grand jury.
[32:20.600 --> 32:29.320] And on the break, we were tossing back and forth how it was my position that when the
[32:29.320 --> 32:34.320] information is presented to the grand jury in the form of a complaint, it would effectively
[32:34.320 --> 32:40.680] be a bill of indictment, or not a bill of indictment.
[32:40.680 --> 32:41.680] Okay.
[32:41.680 --> 32:48.000] Well, according to what we've got in the government code, statutory county courts specifically,
[32:48.000 --> 32:50.000] okay?
[32:50.000 --> 33:01.520] For instance, Section 25.0634 talks about involving, in addition to the jurisdiction
[33:01.520 --> 33:08.600] provided by Section 25.0003 and other law, the county criminal courts of Denton County
[33:08.600 --> 33:13.720] have felony jurisdiction concurrent with the district court over matters involving intoxication
[33:13.720 --> 33:18.360] arising by a true bill of indictment by a grand jury.
[33:18.360 --> 33:19.360] Yeah.
[33:19.360 --> 33:20.360] A true bill.
[33:20.360 --> 33:21.360] Right.
[33:21.360 --> 33:27.920] A true bill of indictment is presented to the clerk in open court.
[33:27.920 --> 33:34.880] And that's generally, yeah, but that's a true bill of indictment.
[33:34.880 --> 33:40.640] That's the only place in Texas statute, unless it's in the administrative code, that the
[33:40.640 --> 33:44.760] term bill of indictment appears is in that section, and it appears twice.
[33:44.760 --> 33:53.520] So it would, okay, and what the Code of Criminal Procedure says is that the prosecuting attorney
[33:53.520 --> 34:02.000] will take the complaint and prepare an information, submit them both to the grand jury.
[34:02.000 --> 34:07.620] And if the grand jury votes to true bill, then the foreman will gather up all the evidence
[34:07.620 --> 34:13.240] and all the documents had and forward them to the prosecuting attorney and request that
[34:13.240 --> 34:18.600] he prepare an indictment.
[34:18.600 --> 34:26.520] So he does prepare the indictment, but after they voted to true bill, the prosecutor then
[34:26.520 --> 34:36.080] prepares the indictment and the grand jury presents that to the court, to the clerk in
[34:36.080 --> 34:42.340] open court, or presents it to the court, and the clerk shall make notations of the fact
[34:42.340 --> 34:46.280] of the indictment on the minutes of the court.
[34:46.280 --> 34:47.280] Okay.
[34:47.280 --> 34:52.280] Well, then once again, then if they're saying that the grand jury in the statute gives it
[34:52.280 --> 34:55.000] to the prosecuting attorney, that also is...
[34:55.000 --> 34:56.000] No, no, no.
[34:56.000 --> 34:57.000] Gives it.
[34:57.000 --> 34:58.000] Wait a minute.
[34:58.000 --> 34:59.000] Yeah.
[34:59.000 --> 35:00.000] Not the indictment.
[35:00.000 --> 35:06.800] They get it from the prosecuting attorney after they've ruled a true bill.
[35:06.800 --> 35:12.280] They give him back the information and the complaint and all the information they had
[35:12.280 --> 35:17.760] and ask him to prepare a true bill, I mean a bill of indictment.
[35:17.760 --> 35:18.760] Okay.
[35:18.760 --> 35:20.480] Well, but that's what I'm saying.
[35:20.480 --> 35:24.280] That's not what the Constitution says they do.
[35:24.280 --> 35:30.320] Article 5, Section 17 specifically says that the grand juries of the district courts hand
[35:30.320 --> 35:35.720] down the indictment to the district judge who then hands them down to the court having
[35:35.720 --> 35:37.160] jurisdiction.
[35:37.160 --> 35:43.160] It doesn't go to the prosecutor until it gets from the district judge's hands, who is responsible
[35:43.160 --> 35:45.440] to ensure it goes to the proper court.
[35:45.440 --> 35:55.160] I'm looking at Article 5, Section 17, and that goes to, it must be the wrong place because
[35:55.160 --> 35:57.360] this is about terms of county court.
[35:57.360 --> 36:01.440] Now, I'll speak to the second sentence.
[36:01.440 --> 36:05.600] The county court shall hold terms as provided by law.
[36:05.600 --> 36:09.920] Misdemeanors may be commenced in said court by information filed to the county attorney
[36:09.920 --> 36:13.240] or by affidavit as may be provided by law.
[36:13.240 --> 36:18.400] Grand juries and paneled in the district courts shall inquire into misdemeanors and all indictments
[36:18.400 --> 36:24.520] thereof returned into the district courts shall forthwith be certified to the county
[36:24.520 --> 36:29.480] courts or other inferior courts having jurisdiction to try them for trial.
[36:29.480 --> 36:34.480] And if such indictment be quashed in the county or other inferior court, the person charged
[36:34.480 --> 36:39.400] shall not be discharged if there is probable cause of guilt but may be held by such court
[36:39.400 --> 36:44.320] or magistrate to answer an information or affidavit.
[36:44.320 --> 36:47.840] And say they've completely skipped the indictment process.
[36:47.840 --> 36:55.240] Yes, they have, I agree, but this doesn't conflict at all with the way they're actually
[36:55.240 --> 37:02.880] doing it in the district court except that the complaints are being given to lower courts
[37:02.880 --> 37:07.520] and it appears as though they all go to the district court and then the district court
[37:07.520 --> 37:12.280] through the grand jury meets them out to where they go.
[37:12.280 --> 37:14.280] Right.
[37:14.280 --> 37:17.360] Interesting.
[37:17.360 --> 37:25.560] So the information could essentially, that doesn't really create any kind of due process
[37:25.560 --> 37:34.200] or constitutional conflict wherein the prosecuting attorney uses the information and the only
[37:34.200 --> 37:40.000] difference between a complaint and an information is the complaint's intended to be prepared
[37:40.000 --> 37:48.080] by a non-learned counsel and an information is prepared by learned counsel.
[37:48.080 --> 37:52.720] They both have essentially the same elements.
[37:52.720 --> 37:57.360] It's just the prosecutor prepares one to make sure it meets all the requirements of law.
[37:57.360 --> 38:02.640] He gives them both to the grand jury on a true bill then the grand jury asks him to
[38:02.640 --> 38:10.360] prepare the indictment and then the foreman signs the indictment and a quorum of the grand
[38:10.360 --> 38:15.880] jury must present the indictment to the court.
[38:15.880 --> 38:18.560] So that's a pretty clean mechanism.
[38:18.560 --> 38:22.160] Now it's generally not always not done that way.
[38:22.160 --> 38:28.960] Johnson County actually does it that way but Travis County doesn't.
[38:28.960 --> 38:33.520] The county I lived in, the prosecutor and the former of the grand jury brought the indictments
[38:33.520 --> 38:35.920] to the clerk.
[38:35.920 --> 38:37.880] So we don't know if there was a quorum or not.
[38:37.880 --> 38:39.840] We don't know if it was ever voted on.
[38:39.840 --> 38:40.840] Right.
[38:40.840 --> 38:44.720] You know this kind of thing goes on all over the place so they don't follow that part but
[38:44.720 --> 38:47.520] the way it's structured would be fine.
[38:47.520 --> 38:53.280] The way I read this, all complaints would go to the district attorney.
[38:53.280 --> 38:55.280] Right.
[38:55.280 --> 38:56.480] That's the problem.
[38:56.480 --> 39:01.400] They're sending everything through the district attorney for the prosecution process who is
[39:01.400 --> 39:07.000] then basically circumventing your right to an indictment from an independent party.
[39:07.000 --> 39:08.000] No, wait, wait, wait.
[39:08.000 --> 39:11.600] No, that wasn't the issue I was bringing.
[39:11.600 --> 39:16.640] The way I read this, all complaints are presented to the district attorney.
[39:16.640 --> 39:17.640] They're not.
[39:17.640 --> 39:21.160] But this requires that they all go to the district attorney.
[39:21.160 --> 39:26.560] He gives them all to the grand jury and if they come back with the true bill then they
[39:26.560 --> 39:29.920] meet them out to the court that it goes to.
[39:29.920 --> 39:37.440] There's nothing here directing the complaints to anybody but the district attorney.
[39:37.440 --> 39:41.560] So what are they doing giving these to county attorneys?
[39:41.560 --> 39:46.200] Taffering with a government document the way I read it, yuck, yuck.
[39:46.200 --> 39:50.520] Constitutional violation either way you look at it.
[39:50.520 --> 39:56.280] So as you can see, folks, the way they're piece milling these constitutional amendments
[39:56.280 --> 40:04.120] now, understand this, Article 1, Section 10 is now in direct conflict with the combined
[40:04.120 --> 40:11.240] Article 5, Section 12B and Article 5, Section 17.
[40:11.240 --> 40:15.440] Now my understanding of this is very simple.
[40:15.440 --> 40:21.320] Article 1, Section 29 says that anything in violation of the Bill of Rights is void ab initio.
[40:21.320 --> 40:29.480] I would presume that would include any subsequent constitutional amendments.
[40:29.480 --> 40:36.280] The alteration of Article 1, Section 10 to remove the necessity of an indictment by a
[40:36.280 --> 40:42.320] disinterested party, that party being the grand jury, and leaving that process strictly
[40:42.320 --> 40:49.000] in the hands of those that are moving against you such as the DA and we know the judge is
[40:49.000 --> 40:55.920] even though they're not supposed to be, and usually in the cases of these traffic tickets
[40:55.920 --> 41:00.560] the agent of the state being the police officer.
[41:00.560 --> 41:06.120] You're being charged, tried and summarized all by the same entity.
[41:06.120 --> 41:10.480] For all intents and purposes the state's doing it all.
[41:10.480 --> 41:15.120] There is no fourth branch of government standing between you and the state in the form of the
[41:15.120 --> 41:19.400] grand jury without that indictment.
[41:19.400 --> 41:24.400] That's a problem in my book.
[41:24.400 --> 41:27.920] That's going to be fun when I get to court on these traffic tickets.
[41:27.920 --> 41:33.000] Now let's argue the point about the additional, before we move on to the next step, let's
[41:33.000 --> 41:40.200] argue the point of the additional violation of the Constitution in the failure to provide
[41:40.200 --> 41:43.240] equal protection of the law.
[41:43.240 --> 41:48.880] An indictment is necessary for anybody being sent to the penitentiary.
[41:48.880 --> 41:50.880] It's mandatory.
[41:50.880 --> 41:58.040] The right to counsel is mandatory if you're going to get sent to jail.
[41:58.040 --> 42:05.280] If any punishment, regardless of level, involves imprisonment, they must give you counsel.
[42:05.280 --> 42:09.240] So what they've done is they've determined that because even though you're being charged
[42:09.240 --> 42:14.720] with a crime and the same level of proof is required for that Class C misdemeanor as it
[42:14.720 --> 42:21.880] is for first degree felony murder, they've decided that because they can't actually imprison
[42:21.880 --> 42:25.360] you, they can remove your right to counsel.
[42:25.360 --> 42:28.480] They can remove your right to a grand jury indictment.
[42:28.480 --> 42:31.000] They can remove your right to discovery.
[42:31.000 --> 42:33.880] They can remove your right to an examining trial.
[42:33.880 --> 42:42.240] And they can remove your right to an impartial jury.
[42:42.240 --> 42:43.680] This is a problem.
[42:43.680 --> 42:49.180] They've created a completely separate and distinct classification of crime that is denied
[42:49.180 --> 42:55.520] equal protection of the law, period.
[42:55.520 --> 43:00.440] Now, Randy, you got any way around that that I'm missing?
[43:00.440 --> 43:07.160] Well, other than generic corruption, other than...
[43:07.160 --> 43:11.720] When I expected an argument from you about, no, no, no, there's a way they can do it.
[43:11.720 --> 43:13.220] What is it?
[43:13.220 --> 43:17.760] This part about indictments really looks clear to me.
[43:17.760 --> 43:23.520] You know, I'm an engineer and I'm pretty good at reading tech manuals and I can read these
[43:23.520 --> 43:28.960] technical parameters and they look pretty clear.
[43:28.960 --> 43:34.200] You know, if I read a tech manual that says, do not strike this particular object with
[43:34.200 --> 43:36.320] a two-pound sledgehammer, it will break.
[43:36.320 --> 43:42.160] I'm not going to strike it with a two-pound sledgehammer because I figure it will break.
[43:42.160 --> 43:44.700] The law doesn't seem to be quite that clear.
[43:44.700 --> 43:49.820] It only appears to say what it says, but it really, really says something else.
[43:49.820 --> 43:53.320] You just kind of hold it in your mouth wrong when you read it.
[43:53.320 --> 43:54.320] Yeah.
[43:54.320 --> 43:56.280] Or your head's tilted wrong.
[43:56.280 --> 43:57.760] I think that must be it.
[43:57.760 --> 43:59.880] We'll be right back.
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[45:21.720 --> 45:39.800] Alright, dissecting the law here.
[45:39.800 --> 45:42.400] Alright, go ahead Eddie.
[45:42.400 --> 45:48.560] Okay, now let's be completely fair about this from both sides here.
[45:48.560 --> 45:54.680] Occasionally, and I do mean occasionally, you will run across a judge that actually
[45:54.680 --> 46:01.240] understands that there shouldn't be a different set of rules for you versus everybody else.
[46:01.240 --> 46:05.080] Now that's not going to come often and very rarely in fact.
[46:05.080 --> 46:10.020] I've never had one, ever, okay?
[46:10.020 --> 46:15.560] But that being said, we do have somebody out there that has been to court recently and
[46:15.560 --> 46:22.000] is still going to court fighting his traffic ticket and his judge allowed him discovery,
[46:22.000 --> 46:23.360] okay?
[46:23.360 --> 46:29.720] But as I tried to inform him, that makes him the exception, most definitely not the rule.
[46:29.720 --> 46:34.400] And I'm willing to bet that had he gone through a complete set of discovery, he might not
[46:34.400 --> 46:40.120] have gotten everything he was asking for nor might he have gotten it at all.
[46:40.120 --> 46:45.100] But for the moment, he seems to have a judge that's at least willing to listen to the arguments
[46:45.100 --> 46:49.840] he's got to make, review the arguments he's got to make, and actually read the motions
[46:49.840 --> 46:54.720] that he's put in front of him, in fact set on the bench and read them in front of him.
[46:54.720 --> 47:00.720] Now granted, this is a judge I would like to appear before because most of the ones
[47:00.720 --> 47:06.520] that I'm having to stand in front of and try to educate them, you may as well be talking
[47:06.520 --> 47:11.820] to a refrigerated mackerel at the meat section of the supermarket, okay?
[47:11.820 --> 47:15.420] They look about the same and they think about the same.
[47:15.420 --> 47:20.680] And fortunately, they don't always smell the same, but that's another story altogether.
[47:20.680 --> 47:27.300] But the point being, do not ever go into these places assuming that they're going to follow
[47:27.300 --> 47:28.300] the rules.
[47:28.300 --> 47:30.020] That is a mistake.
[47:30.020 --> 47:31.480] It is a mistake.
[47:31.480 --> 47:36.920] I'm not saying go in, be belligerent, be obnoxious or anything, but don't for one minute think
[47:36.920 --> 47:43.000] they're going to follow the rules if you don't hold them to the rules.
[47:43.000 --> 47:49.360] And it'll become very apparent very quickly if they intend to follow the rules or not.
[47:49.360 --> 47:53.600] Now what we were talking about about that separate classification, I was trying to see
[47:53.600 --> 47:59.120] if Randy could come up with any argument that I missed on why this separate classification
[47:59.120 --> 48:01.060] would be valid.
[48:01.060 --> 48:06.160] After all the things they circumvented in denial of a constitutional protection, not
[48:06.160 --> 48:12.400] a grant, but a protection under the right to counsel, the right to discovery, the right
[48:12.400 --> 48:18.040] to a fair and impartial trial, a right to an indictment, a right to an examining trial,
[48:18.040 --> 48:20.280] all of these things.
[48:20.280 --> 48:24.840] Is there anything that you can see in this, Randy, that I've missed that would make everything
[48:24.840 --> 48:28.080] they're doing okay and me just wrong?
[48:28.080 --> 48:37.120] You mean all of a sudden denying me a right to counsel, right to discovery?
[48:37.120 --> 48:39.520] Yeah, simply because they can't throw you in jail.
[48:39.520 --> 48:43.360] Even though you're still being charged with a criminal act, just because the act itself
[48:43.360 --> 48:48.200] does not involve jail time, they completely change what your rights are in that type of
[48:48.200 --> 48:49.200] trial.
[48:49.200 --> 48:52.200] Did I lose you?
[48:52.200 --> 48:53.200] No.
[48:53.200 --> 48:54.200] Okay.
[48:54.200 --> 48:55.200] I'm here.
[48:55.200 --> 49:02.360] I was trying to turn my internal sounds off and I turned you off.
[49:02.360 --> 49:10.480] I can't find anything in law that differentiates.
[49:10.480 --> 49:11.720] How did they get to this?
[49:11.720 --> 49:15.840] You don't get discovery in a class C misdemeanor.
[49:15.840 --> 49:17.960] Or assistance of counsel.
[49:17.960 --> 49:20.200] Where did they come up with that?
[49:20.200 --> 49:21.560] How did they get the idea?
[49:21.560 --> 49:22.560] It's not in the Constitution.
[49:22.560 --> 49:24.760] Hell, it's nowhere in the statute.
[49:24.760 --> 49:32.120] Nowhere in the statute does it say that you are to be denied counsel on a class C misdemeanor.
[49:32.120 --> 49:34.160] Nowhere.
[49:34.160 --> 49:35.760] But they do it.
[49:35.760 --> 49:37.320] How do they do it?
[49:37.320 --> 49:38.600] Why are they doing it?
[49:38.600 --> 49:43.160] Well, for one thing, if they have to supply the counsel, their with the cost of the ticket
[49:43.160 --> 49:46.840] they would have gotten from you right out the window to pay the attorney.
[49:46.840 --> 49:48.840] They don't want to eat into the profit.
[49:48.840 --> 49:52.360] Well, I'm fixing to eat into their profits.
[49:52.360 --> 49:57.360] And the reason I wanted to go through all of this is because I want to have my criminal
[49:57.360 --> 50:01.640] complaints already made up.
[50:01.640 --> 50:06.040] First thing I'm going to want to do is call the prosecutor to stand.
[50:06.040 --> 50:08.320] They're not going to let you do that.
[50:08.320 --> 50:12.560] Then I've got to figure out what I do when they don't.
[50:12.560 --> 50:16.880] Well, I guarantee, I've tried that, believe me.
[50:16.880 --> 50:18.120] I've tried it.
[50:18.120 --> 50:20.600] They'll flat deny that in a heartbeat.
[50:20.600 --> 50:23.080] I've even tried to call the court clerk to the stand.
[50:23.080 --> 50:26.280] They refuse to allow that either.
[50:26.280 --> 50:30.760] But like I said, don't for one moment think these people are going to obey the rules.
[50:30.760 --> 50:34.360] Oh, I absolutely do not.
[50:34.360 --> 50:43.720] And I'm going to start out real fast right after the judge.
[50:43.720 --> 50:48.360] I plan on having a whole stack of judicial conduct complaints.
[50:48.360 --> 50:50.120] OK.
[50:50.120 --> 50:52.800] So let's go back up to our steps now.
[50:52.800 --> 50:54.400] You're standing before the magistrate.
[50:54.400 --> 50:56.920] You're asking in what capacity are you sitting?
[50:56.920 --> 50:57.920] OK.
[50:57.920 --> 51:03.480] If you're here as a magistrate, then I want my examining trial.
[51:03.480 --> 51:05.880] Well, we don't do examining trials.
[51:05.880 --> 51:09.640] Then get out of here, get somebody in here who does.
[51:09.640 --> 51:10.640] That's right.
[51:10.640 --> 51:16.200] That's one of the things that the individual I was speaking of earlier who got discovery,
[51:16.200 --> 51:19.280] he'll admit he didn't get an examining trial.
[51:19.280 --> 51:20.280] OK.
[51:20.280 --> 51:25.600] Nor did he get an arraignment by the proper court.
[51:25.600 --> 51:29.880] In fact, he has gone from municipal court to the county court.
[51:29.880 --> 51:36.080] And since I believe, if I'm not mistaken, the ticket he got predates the change in the
[51:36.080 --> 51:41.400] law of September 1, 19 or 2009.
[51:41.400 --> 51:46.360] And if that ticket predates, that municipal court was required by law to send him to the
[51:46.360 --> 51:50.120] county court or statutory county court for the purpose of an arraignment and didn't do
[51:50.120 --> 51:51.120] it.
[51:51.120 --> 51:59.160] Now, the county court has admitted that a trial de novo is a do-over, yet they assume
[51:59.160 --> 52:03.640] jurisdiction because they're treating that part of it as an appeal.
[52:03.640 --> 52:06.080] Where in law do they get to mix these?
[52:06.080 --> 52:11.840] Where does it say treat it partially as an appeal and partially as a trial do-over?
[52:11.840 --> 52:13.160] A legal nullity?
[52:13.160 --> 52:15.920] Well, it actually is an appeal.
[52:15.920 --> 52:22.200] However, it's an appeal trial de novo.
[52:22.200 --> 52:28.200] What all trial de novo goes to is you don't have to appeal on point of error.
[52:28.200 --> 52:31.780] You appeal and there's nothing brought before the court.
[52:31.780 --> 52:36.520] So the court has to redevelop all the information.
[52:36.520 --> 52:38.000] Let me look here real quick.
[52:38.000 --> 52:44.720] But I'm pretty sure that what it actually says is that it's done as if the previous
[52:44.720 --> 52:46.840] trial never occurred.
[52:46.840 --> 52:48.640] Yes.
[52:48.640 --> 52:51.920] But exactly.
[52:51.920 --> 52:56.320] So the court has to develop all of the facts again that...
[52:56.320 --> 52:57.320] Including jurisdiction.
[52:57.320 --> 52:58.320] Absolutely.
[52:58.320 --> 52:59.320] That's where I'm going.
[52:59.320 --> 53:02.160] And they refused.
[53:02.160 --> 53:12.040] In any appeal, if the trial court didn't have subject matter jurisdiction, the appeals court
[53:12.040 --> 53:17.520] cannot get subject matter jurisdiction either.
[53:17.520 --> 53:19.840] And that's real clear in the case law.
[53:19.840 --> 53:20.840] Yeah.
[53:20.840 --> 53:28.320] Well, the attorney on the prosecution side brought in a case that in no way agreed with
[53:28.320 --> 53:34.760] what the statutes or the constitution says in that regard and proceeded to trial without
[53:34.760 --> 53:41.840] jurisdiction anyway, despite what the law says.
[53:41.840 --> 53:45.580] So if you've got that case law, Randy, I'd sure like to get my hands on it as I am sure
[53:45.580 --> 53:47.080] the other individual...
[53:47.080 --> 53:48.880] I can pull that out.
[53:48.880 --> 53:51.040] That goes to subject matter jurisdiction.
[53:51.040 --> 53:52.040] Okay.
[53:52.040 --> 53:56.680] I've got a large file on subject matter jurisdiction.
[53:56.680 --> 53:57.680] Yeah.
[53:57.680 --> 54:03.000] Well, that's exactly what he's needing because the judge is saying that because it's an appeal,
[54:03.000 --> 54:06.820] he automatically gets jurisdiction, even if the lower court didn't have it.
[54:06.820 --> 54:08.640] And that's complete BS.
[54:08.640 --> 54:12.040] So he needs to file criminal charges against the judge.
[54:12.040 --> 54:15.520] Well, I brought that issue up, but he doesn't want to...
[54:15.520 --> 54:20.720] Since the judge is being so nice, he doesn't want to go that route.
[54:20.720 --> 54:22.960] But I'm trying to get him to understand.
[54:22.960 --> 54:25.560] Don't presume this judge is playing nice.
[54:25.560 --> 54:31.000] He may be trying to do it right, but he's still not doing it right.
[54:31.000 --> 54:37.120] He's insisting on something that common sense says cannot happen.
[54:37.120 --> 54:38.380] It just can't.
[54:38.380 --> 54:40.880] He doesn't need to do this out of anger or avarice.
[54:40.880 --> 54:43.480] Oh, I know that and I understand it.
[54:43.480 --> 54:49.360] Just follow the thunder and smile at the judge while you're doing it.
[54:49.360 --> 54:51.880] Here, judge, you're a criminal.
[54:51.880 --> 54:57.400] You need to stand down and get me a real judge up here.
[54:57.400 --> 55:02.440] How else are we going to get your attention, even the judges who are genuinely nice guys?
[55:02.440 --> 55:03.440] Yeah.
[55:03.440 --> 55:08.920] It doesn't matter even if the judge is trying to do it correctly, you still must insist
[55:08.920 --> 55:12.120] that he do all of it correctly.
[55:12.120 --> 55:17.720] Because anything that you allow him to put by you, he's going to put by the next guy.
[55:17.720 --> 55:22.360] And eventually, the process is going to be so ingrained in this judge that he is doing
[55:22.360 --> 55:26.760] exactly the same thing that we're railing against right now.
[55:26.760 --> 55:32.000] They've allowed their procedure to circumvent what the law requires.
[55:32.000 --> 55:36.000] We've got to stop that before it ever gets started.
[55:36.000 --> 55:42.160] We're too late for that, but now we have to interrupt what's going on.
[55:42.160 --> 55:45.920] Well, we may not be entirely too late.
[55:45.920 --> 55:52.040] If we get a new judge who's never actually gone through this before, that could be a
[55:52.040 --> 55:54.000] place to start.
[55:54.000 --> 55:57.160] But those that have been sitting up there and know their only job is to make sure the
[55:57.160 --> 56:00.580] revenue keeps flowing, those are the problem children.
[56:00.580 --> 56:03.680] And those are the ones we need to kick so hard they have to roll down their socks to
[56:03.680 --> 56:04.680] eat.
[56:04.680 --> 56:05.680] Yes.
[56:05.680 --> 56:14.360] When I go in, I hope I get a really arrogant judge, because I want to be like Jerry Reed.
[56:14.360 --> 56:19.800] I'm going to tear Lilio Algonso off.
[56:19.800 --> 56:29.080] But yeah, we have to, and it's best to take them on on the minor details.
[56:29.080 --> 56:32.680] Don't wait till they've done something horrendous that you get them in trouble for.
[56:32.680 --> 56:37.640] I want to catch them on the first detail I can, and land right in the middle of it.
[56:37.640 --> 56:39.440] Ask him to stand down from the bench.
[56:39.440 --> 56:45.280] Oh, you don't do magistrate, do examining trials.
[56:45.280 --> 56:47.920] You're not a magistrate then, get me a magistrate in here.
[56:47.920 --> 56:52.000] Well, generally what I always tell the judges, I mean, invoking his duty as a magistrate,
[56:52.000 --> 56:55.120] and that's a duty which may not shield yourself.
[56:55.120 --> 57:00.720] If he refuses to do an examining trial, then I ask him to stand down from the bench and
[57:00.720 --> 57:05.240] get me a real judge up here who can do a proper examining trial.
[57:05.240 --> 57:08.240] A real magistrate.
[57:08.240 --> 57:11.480] Magistrate.
[57:11.480 --> 57:17.000] So that ought to tense him up right from the beginning.
[57:17.000 --> 57:20.920] But now, once you're in front of that magistrate, and you're wanting to know in what capacity
[57:20.920 --> 57:26.360] they're acting, the law says that they must have the probable cause of termination at
[57:26.360 --> 57:27.680] the examining trial.
[57:27.680 --> 57:35.280] Now, technically speaking, the law also says that 1517B does not allow them to send you
[57:35.280 --> 57:42.000] out on bond if they haven't had the examining trial, because that's the only place they
[57:42.000 --> 57:43.000] can set it.
[57:43.000 --> 57:44.000] Yes.
[57:44.000 --> 57:45.000] Okay.
[57:45.000 --> 57:52.160] So, bail is taken by a magistrate after an examining trial, 17.05.
[57:52.160 --> 57:55.640] It's real clear, real hard to misunderstand.
[57:55.640 --> 57:56.640] Okay.
[57:56.640 --> 58:02.400] So, that being said, how can they send you out on a bond under 1517B?
[58:02.400 --> 58:04.560] They can't.
[58:04.560 --> 58:10.720] They can let you out if the law allows, but that requires an examining trial and then
[58:10.720 --> 58:15.920] the setting for 17.05.
[58:15.920 --> 58:19.160] Hey folks, we'll be right back in just a few minutes and we'll pick this up on the other
[58:19.160 --> 58:22.160] side and hopefully we'll get you a phone call.
[58:22.160 --> 58:28.120] All right, callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we've got Dan from Texas
[58:28.120 --> 58:29.120] on the line.
[58:29.120 --> 58:57.360] We'll be taking you when we get back.
[58:57.360 --> 59:00.400] Okay.
[59:00.400 --> 59:04.580] My name is Randall Kelton and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio.
[59:04.580 --> 59:09.380] We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials.
[59:09.380 --> 59:13.880] With the mortgage crisis worsening, we set our sights on finding a remedy for people
[59:13.880 --> 59:15.920] who have been cheated by their lenders.
[59:15.920 --> 59:20.120] If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off, you have probably been cheated out of
[59:20.120 --> 59:22.480] thousands, but there is a remedy.
[59:22.480 --> 59:31.760] Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140 and find out how to use the
[59:31.760 --> 59:37.340] consumer protection laws to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception.
[59:37.340 --> 59:42.140] We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud and put
[59:42.140 --> 59:44.040] the lenders on the dime.
[59:44.040 --> 59:48.120] Lender fraud is bankrupting this country and it's time to fight back.
[59:48.120 --> 59:57.760] Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call 512-430-4140 and get the information you need to stop the
[59:57.760 --> 59:59.880] money changers in their tracks.
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[01:00:04.640 --> 01:00:10.960] Presidential Airways, an affiliate of Z, formerly known as Blackwater, has been awarded a $39
[01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:16.520] million contract from the Pentagon to ferry passengers and cargo in Afghanistan.
[01:00:16.520 --> 01:00:21.960] In 2006, the National Transportation Safety Board found unprofessional behavior by a
[01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:27.320] presidential flight crew was a key cause of a plane crash in Afghanistan in which six
[01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:28.960] men died.
[01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:33.840] A British Airways computer expert who allegedly offered to cover for cabin crew in the event
[01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:39.840] of a strike appeared in a UK court Thursday charged with plotting suicide bombings.
[01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:46.840] Rajib Karim allegedly obtained a passport and got a job at the airline to further the
[01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:47.840] conspiracy.
[01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.760] Two Israeli soldiers have been charged by the Israeli Army with using a Palestinian
[01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.760] child as a human shield during the Gaza war.
[01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:03.920] The soldiers are charged with forcing a nine-year-old boy to open bags suspected of containing explosives.
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[01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.680] The ground shook and buildings swayed as billionaire Sebastian Piñera took over as Chile's president
[01:01:13.680 --> 01:01:20.820] Thursday, tasked with rebuilding after a massive 8.8 earthquake that killed 500 people.
[01:01:20.820 --> 01:01:27.040] The magnitude 6.9 quake was nearly as powerful as the one that devastated Haiti in January.
[01:01:27.040 --> 01:01:32.400] Piñera is a former senator who made a fortune on a credit card business and an airline.
[01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:37.240] To fund reconstruction, the new leader is likely to issue international bonds and dip
[01:01:37.240 --> 01:01:39.480] into the country's copper savings.
[01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.760] Piñera is the first conservative leader in Chile after two decades of center-left rule
[01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:50.160] that has consolidated the country's status as the most developed country in Latin America.
[01:01:50.160 --> 01:01:55.480] President Bachelet left office with a record 84% approval rating even after criticisms
[01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.880] of delays in government aid for victims.
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[01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:07.340] The UN charges millions of Yemenis are starving while the international community focuses
[01:02:07.340 --> 01:02:09.280] on tackling al Qaeda.
[01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:14.820] Vital food deliveries and assistance is being cut because of a near total absence of funding.
[01:02:14.820 --> 01:02:20.160] The UN said more than 7 million people struggle daily to find enough food to live a healthy
[01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:26.000] and productive life, leading to rates of malnutrition that are the third highest in the world.
[01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:32.240] World Food Program Director Giancarlo Thierry said, quote, they are in a total poverty trap,
[01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:37.400] finding most of the time they are illiterate and have no access to land or water.
[01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:44.800] WFP estimates it will require $105 million this year and next to feed more than 3 million
[01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:50.920] of Yemenis poor and hungry, including 250,000 people displaced by the recent war in the
[01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.760] north and boatloads of Somali refugees.
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[01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:32.120] Okay, now that the magistrate knows that they can't set bail or anything else without the
[01:04:32.120 --> 01:04:38.760] examining trial, or at least they should know, and you've insisted that you have one, here's
[01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:46.320] the thing, 1517, you very clearly under, 1517 basically is just a summarized version of
[01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:51.120] chapter 16, which deals specifically with the examining trial.
[01:04:51.120 --> 01:04:56.560] In an examining trial, you get to do every single thing you would get to do in the actual
[01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:57.840] trial.
[01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:02.720] You get to question witnesses, look at the evidence, review the complaint, make changes
[01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:07.520] in the complaint if it's not correct, so on and so forth.
[01:05:07.520 --> 01:05:15.480] All of these things that you're supposed to do before you ever have to make a plea, which
[01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:20.680] is the purpose of the arraignment, to fix your identity and enter your plea.
[01:05:20.680 --> 01:05:26.040] That's all an arraignment does, but the arraignment can't be had until probable cause has been
[01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:30.920] determined via an examining trial.
[01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:36.800] They completely deny class Cs an examining trial.
[01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:41.120] That you go in there, they want to immediately jump to an arraignment.
[01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:47.920] If you won't plead, or you say you can't plead, then they try to enter a plea for you.
[01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:54.800] And again, deny you the same due process rights that all the other misdemeanors get.
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:59.560] So what we want to do is keep objecting to every single thing the judge does.
[01:05:59.560 --> 01:06:05.000] In these lower courts, that's why it's very important to have witnesses in the courtroom,
[01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:10.400] and if at all possible, that digital recorder.
[01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:16.820] You want to document everything the judge is supposed to do by your witnesses, and hopefully
[01:06:16.820 --> 01:06:20.680] you've already prepared a stack of criminal complaints to go in there with it.
[01:06:20.680 --> 01:06:25.720] Or at the very least, affidavits for all the witnesses to sign that you can attach to your
[01:06:25.720 --> 01:06:26.720] criminal complaint.
[01:06:26.720 --> 01:06:31.440] However you want to do it, just be prepared for it.
[01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:35.960] Just remember, don't sign the complaint until the judge actually commits the crime, okay?
[01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:41.060] They can only be signed after the fact, not before.
[01:06:41.060 --> 01:06:46.440] But that being said, the judge is now committing a violation of the Constitution, of a self-enacting
[01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:48.880] clause of the state Constitution.
[01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:50.560] And guess what?
[01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:57.880] That removes all protection and immunity from a public official.
[01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:04.320] And courts in Texas are very clear, a violation of a self-enacting clause of the state Constitution
[01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:13.060] removes immunity from any public official that did the violation, okay?
[01:07:13.060 --> 01:07:15.320] So that's a good thing for us.
[01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.120] We need to take advantage of it.
[01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:18.120] All right.
[01:07:18.120 --> 01:07:19.120] What do we want to do?
[01:07:19.120 --> 01:07:20.120] Let's fight.
[01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:21.120] That's it.
[01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:22.120] Let's fight.
[01:07:22.120 --> 01:07:24.160] Let's see what Dan's going to dump on us today.
[01:07:24.160 --> 01:07:27.080] He's going to let us have it, I know.
[01:07:27.080 --> 01:07:28.080] Okay.
[01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:29.080] We're going to go to Dan from Texas.
[01:07:29.080 --> 01:07:30.080] All right.
[01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:31.080] Dan, thanks for calling in.
[01:07:31.080 --> 01:07:32.080] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:07:32.080 --> 01:07:35.080] From my mind, I really enjoy your program.
[01:07:35.080 --> 01:07:38.280] I mean, I've only listened to it two or three times.
[01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:41.680] And I'm actually learning a whole lot, even though I thought that I knew a whole lot about
[01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:42.680] traffic.
[01:07:42.680 --> 01:07:44.320] I've fought traffic for many years now.
[01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:49.280] I've had a lot of success, basically more than anything else, just wearing them down
[01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:50.280] because it is revenue-driven.
[01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:55.000] You know, if you can drag them in long enough and harden up and fight them hard enough,
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.960] and I have, I've recused judges because they've acted to help the prosecutor.
[01:07:59.960 --> 01:08:02.880] When they do this, when they deny all your rights, they're helping the prosecutor.
[01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:07.840] When they generate a complaint, which I'm sure you've experienced that, Eddie, where
[01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:13.240] you go in there and all there is is a ticket, and when you finally get around at a certain
[01:08:13.240 --> 01:08:16.320] point, you will find that there will be a complaint generated, and it's the court that's
[01:08:16.320 --> 01:08:18.720] contacting the officer to get the complaint.
[01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:19.720] That's correct.
[01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:20.720] So when the court...
[01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.600] Or they'll call the officer in right there and have them do it.
[01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.280] Yeah, but let's say you're released on a ticket.
[01:08:26.280 --> 01:08:31.160] You get stopped, you know, today, and you go in there a week later or two weeks later,
[01:08:31.160 --> 01:08:35.160] or you go in at the last day, and you ask to see the magistrate, and they won't let
[01:08:35.160 --> 01:08:36.160] you.
[01:08:36.160 --> 01:08:37.160] That's been my experience.
[01:08:37.160 --> 01:08:38.160] The court will...
[01:08:38.160 --> 01:08:39.160] The clerk will say, you need to plea.
[01:08:39.160 --> 01:08:40.160] You have to plea.
[01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:43.240] You have to enter a plea, and then if you plead not guilty, we'll set it for pretrial.
[01:08:43.240 --> 01:08:44.240] Okay?
[01:08:44.240 --> 01:08:49.200] Well, if you refuse, what they'll do is, in my experience, is that the court clerk's acting
[01:08:49.200 --> 01:08:53.720] on instruction of the JP or the judge will contact the officer and say, hey, we need
[01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.600] a sworn complaint so they can try to move it forward.
[01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.040] And when they do that, the judge has helped the prosecutor, and I've recused them before,
[01:09:00.040 --> 01:09:03.960] and a lot of times that seems to end it because it's costing them money.
[01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:05.800] They have to have another judge come in.
[01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:10.360] But here's what I wanted to throw out there.
[01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:12.800] You know, you were asking, how can they get away with this?
[01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.800] Well, here's what I would say.
[01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:20.600] I would say that the way most people handle traffic tickets, most uninformed people, what
[01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:24.960] they do is they either hand deliver or they mail in a plea.
[01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.720] Because when the officer stops you, he'll even give you this little form saying that
[01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:29.680] you can mail in a plea.
[01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:33.720] And the Code of Criminal Procedures, I forget which section, but it allows you, if you want,
[01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:39.920] based on just a citation alone, you can mail in a plea of guilty, not guilty, or no contest,
[01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:41.400] and mail in the payment if you want to.
[01:09:41.400 --> 01:09:42.400] That's chapter 45.
[01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:47.600] You can drop it off at the clerk's window, and I think that what happens is that when
[01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:54.280] they do that, people are voluntarily waiving a whole bunch of rights, and they're voluntarily
[01:09:54.280 --> 01:09:56.040] going into this kangaroo court.
[01:09:56.040 --> 01:10:02.520] Because how can an American be forced to go to a court trial that is so meaningless that
[01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.200] when you appeal, it's a trial, you know, but how can you be forced to go into a court where
[01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:07.200] there's no record?
[01:10:07.200 --> 01:10:11.240] And as a matter of fact, they won't even let you bring your own court reporter.
[01:10:11.240 --> 01:10:14.800] I've seen printouts from them saying you can't have a recording device because it's not a
[01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:15.800] court of record.
[01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:16.800] Okay?
[01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.000] How can you be forced to waste your time as an American?
[01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.760] It's designed to wear you down because they're enforcing this.
[01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.200] What I believe is that by entering the plea, you're waiving all that.
[01:10:26.200 --> 01:10:27.200] You're agreeing.
[01:10:27.200 --> 01:10:29.560] Now, let's say you do plead guilty.
[01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:31.120] Why would you need an examining trial?
[01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:32.240] Why would you need an arraignment?
[01:10:32.240 --> 01:10:34.080] The law allows you to make a plea.
[01:10:34.080 --> 01:10:39.680] If you're prepared to plea to just a citation, you almost establish probable cause all by
[01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:40.680] yourself.
[01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:41.680] You see?
[01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:42.680] I don't know if I have a problem with that.
[01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:43.680] Well, if you enter a plea of guilty, that's true.
[01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:44.680] I don't know if I have a problem with that.
[01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.760] And if you enter a plea of guilty, that's most assuredly what you're doing.
[01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.680] As long as it's above board, as long as they explain to people, look, you just want to
[01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.520] get it over, you want to waive all these rights, pay the ticket, here you go, here's how you
[01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:56.520] do it.
[01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.800] But I believe there's a second path, which is what you're trying to do and what I've
[01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:04.640] tried to do, where you demand every element of due process rights and what they have to
[01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.840] do is they have to give you an arraignment on the record, they have to give you an examining
[01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:08.840] trial.
[01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:13.560] They have to establish probable cause and when there's only a citation filed because
[01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:18.120] they don't bother to get complaints in most cases, they're so used to people doing it
[01:11:18.120 --> 01:11:23.080] the way 99% of people do it that they don't generate a complaint until they feel like
[01:11:23.080 --> 01:11:24.080] they need one.
[01:11:24.080 --> 01:11:29.000] So if they gave you that examining trial when you walked in there, there'd be no sworn accusation
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:33.120] against you and the judge would have to come back with a finding of no probable cause and
[01:11:33.120 --> 01:11:34.600] that's why they don't want to do it.
[01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:36.320] They don't want to give you any of this stuff.
[01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:37.520] Well, that's true.
[01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:41.200] That's exactly why they're doing it and my question was actually rhetorical.
[01:11:41.200 --> 01:11:42.880] I know why they're doing it.
[01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:46.840] I'm trying to get the other folks out there that are listening to this to ask that question
[01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:48.040] of themselves.
[01:11:48.040 --> 01:11:51.080] How are they getting away with this?
[01:11:51.080 --> 01:11:54.960] And the truth is it's because we are letting them.
[01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:55.960] That's the whole truth.
[01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:01.800] And 95% of the people that are out there that aren't educated simply mail in a plea and
[01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:02.960] a payment in most cases.
[01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:07.520] I had a county attorney basically tell me that 90% of the people mail in a plea with
[01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:08.520] a payment.
[01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:13.320] They plead guilty or no contest and that the remaining 10, 90% of them bring the check
[01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:16.200] to the window filled out.
[01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:20.280] Only about 1% of the people even enter a plea of not guilty.
[01:12:20.280 --> 01:12:22.720] And fighting the courts works.
[01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:29.320] I was in Keller, Texas and I had to appear down there for something that I didn't appear
[01:12:29.320 --> 01:12:30.320] before the court.
[01:12:30.320 --> 01:12:32.240] I don't even know where it was.
[01:12:32.240 --> 01:12:36.000] And I wanted to watch the court proceedings and I wouldn't know what was going on.
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.680] So I asked the court for a docket sheet.
[01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:42.600] And she said, well, I can't.
[01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:43.600] She didn't know about that.
[01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:46.880] So she went to the judge and came back and said, well, we can't give you that.
[01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:47.880] And I told her, don't tell me that.
[01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:48.880] She said, well, I have to.
[01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:51.880] I said, no, no, get the judge to tell me that.
[01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:53.880] And she said, well, why?
[01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:57.960] I said, well, I'm going to if nobody gives me a docket sheet, I'm going to ask somebody
[01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:00.760] to be arrested and I don't want it to be you.
[01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:06.960] So she went to talk to the judge and I went and got the bailiff.
[01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:09.320] I'd been talking to him, so he thought I was cool.
[01:13:09.320 --> 01:13:14.520] When he comes with me, the judge came back out and I asked her for the docket sheet.
[01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:18.280] And she said, well, you can't get the docket sheet.
[01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:21.520] I turned to the bailiff and said, Mr. Bailiff, do you hear that?
[01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.120] She said, yes, I did.
[01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:25.120] Arrest that judge.
[01:13:25.120 --> 01:13:30.680] And you should have seen the look on her face when I asked the bailiff to arrest the judge.
[01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:38.160] It looked like I'd hit her with a frying pan like Wiley Coyote.
[01:13:38.160 --> 01:13:43.360] Well, I came in the next, you know, she finally stumbled around and went and got me a docket
[01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:44.360] sheet.
[01:13:44.360 --> 01:13:51.760] I come to court the next time this judge is gone, they got a new judge and ask what happened
[01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:52.760] to them.
[01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:58.560] And the bailiff told me, well, a couple of days after you were here, she quit.
[01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.240] So it does work to go after them.
[01:14:03.240 --> 01:14:07.400] I'd still rather see a look in a striped daylight for a few months, minimal.
[01:14:07.400 --> 01:14:08.400] Hey, Randy?
[01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:09.400] Yeah.
[01:14:09.400 --> 01:14:10.400] And Eddie?
[01:14:10.400 --> 01:14:11.400] Yes, sir.
[01:14:11.400 --> 01:14:12.400] Can you hear me?
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:15.520] I want to just tell you real quick something that happened to me recently.
[01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.360] I'll make it very brief, okay?
[01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:25.440] I got stopped on December 31st of 2009, obviously, okay, the day before New Year's.
[01:14:25.440 --> 01:14:32.520] And what happened was that the officer actually wrote the citation and basically the date
[01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.440] said it was the honor before, you know, they don't specify like the statute says, but they
[01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:38.680] put the honor before language.
[01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:45.200] But what he put was honor before January 15th or something like that, Eddie.
[01:14:45.200 --> 01:14:48.160] Tried to write 2009, but he didn't close the nine.
[01:14:48.160 --> 01:14:51.800] So it actually looked like a 2004, okay?
[01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.320] But obviously, mentally, he was still back in 2009.
[01:14:54.320 --> 01:14:59.160] He didn't realize that the next day would be January 1st of 2010, and he should have
[01:14:59.160 --> 01:15:02.120] made it January 15th of 2010.
[01:15:02.120 --> 01:15:03.120] Are you with me?
[01:15:03.120 --> 01:15:04.120] Yeah.
[01:15:04.120 --> 01:15:05.120] Okay.
[01:15:05.120 --> 01:15:08.080] So what happened was I typed up a little letter to the court and I mailed it off.
[01:15:08.080 --> 01:15:11.760] And I said, you know, this is impossible, I can't go back in time.
[01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:13.960] And the officer actually violated the statute.
[01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:17.200] And basically, for that reason alone, this ticket should be dismissed.
[01:15:17.200 --> 01:15:18.800] And it was a very respectful letter.
[01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:24.040] And I said that, you know, you have no real duty or business trying to salvage this ticket,
[01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:29.240] trying to save it, trying to do anything with it, except let it sit there, okay?
[01:15:29.240 --> 01:15:32.880] And I actually typed out and put the section on what they call bail jumping and violate
[01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:36.800] promise to appear, and pointed out that they couldn't really charge me with bail jumping
[01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:38.960] or violate promise to appear.
[01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.040] Because that section says if you're lawfully released from custody on condition that you
[01:15:42.040 --> 01:15:46.200] subsequently appear, I'm paraphrasing, and you fail to appear according to the terms
[01:15:46.200 --> 01:15:47.920] you're released, blah, blah, blah.
[01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.640] You know, you're guilty and can be charged with this, unless you have a really good reason
[01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:52.640] or excuse.
[01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:54.440] So I'm paraphrasing that also.
[01:15:54.440 --> 01:15:59.440] And I said my excuse is I don't have a time machine, I can't go back in time, okay?
[01:15:59.440 --> 01:16:03.360] And basically, it sat there kind of dormant, but when I called to kind of follow up on
[01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:06.760] it, the clerk said that the court was going to send it to the county attorney's office
[01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:10.120] and try to see what he had to say about it, okay?
[01:16:10.120 --> 01:16:15.520] Now, the court doing that basically made the county attorney aware that this even exists.
[01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:20.360] Otherwise, it would sit on the shelf gathering dust till doomsday, okay?
[01:16:20.360 --> 01:16:24.120] And if they could not get the sworn and verified complaint within two years, the statute of
[01:16:24.120 --> 01:16:25.120] limitations would expire.
[01:16:25.120 --> 01:16:27.600] I've had that happen before, okay?
[01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.360] When they didn't know what to do, I made my little appearance and then kind of walked
[01:16:30.360 --> 01:16:34.720] out and they put the folder aside.
[01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:35.720] You're going to break.
[01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:36.720] Yeah, we're going to break.
[01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.720] And we've got Jeff from Texas up next.
[01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.920] So hang on just a minute, we'll finish up with you on the other side, okay?
[01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:43.920] All right.
[01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:45.920] Okay, we'll be right back.
[01:16:45.920 --> 01:17:00.520] Callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we will be right back.
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[01:17:12.120 --> 01:17:13.120] Brave New Books?
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[01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.000] By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:41.240] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
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[01:17:58.480 --> 01:18:24.200] Ain't gonna blame me, don't blame me, well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick
[01:18:24.200 --> 01:18:25.200] again.
[01:18:25.200 --> 01:18:34.200] I was blindsided, but now I can see your plans You put the fear in my pocket, took the money
[01:18:34.200 --> 01:18:39.200] from my hands Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick
[01:18:39.200 --> 01:19:05.800] again, ain't gonna fool me, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:14.160] I get it now, but then I must have been out of luck Back then you had me, but now you'll
[01:19:14.160 --> 01:19:16.360] be in the wrong We're taking your calls
[01:19:16.360 --> 01:19:20.000] Ain't gonna get me with that same old suckin' plight
[01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:21.000] We're talking with Dan.
[01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.640] Okay, go ahead, Dan, and wrap it up because we've got to go to other callers.
[01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.360] Okay, I'll wrap it up real quick.
[01:19:26.360 --> 01:19:29.680] Now, what happened was I thought this thing was gone, that they just decided it was too
[01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:34.520] much trouble, too confused, whatever have you, but I actually came back, I was out of
[01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:39.880] town helping a family member, and I came back into town and found in my mailbox a letter
[01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:44.640] from the court, okay, saying that they've set a hearing of some kind, it doesn't say
[01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:49.280] what kind of hearing, on the 29th of March, and it had a copy of the complaint in there
[01:19:49.280 --> 01:19:54.040] that was sworn to in front of the county attorney, but there was no information.
[01:19:54.040 --> 01:19:58.520] And on this letter from the court, which is also unsigned, okay, so it doesn't legally
[01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:03.960] qualify as a summons, there's actually some rules provided for that, it actually says
[01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:09.680] that if I do not show up, that a warrant will be issued for a failure to appear.
[01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:15.760] Now, basically, if you read that statute, the violate promise to appear, bail jumping,
[01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:19.200] you'll see that if you are lawfully released from custody, you fail to appear.
[01:20:19.200 --> 01:20:23.160] And because it was written wrong, and even if the ticket was written right and I had
[01:20:23.160 --> 01:20:28.360] appeared and the magistrate had not done his job and released me on bond, which would be
[01:20:28.360 --> 01:20:32.080] a second promise to appear, the ticket would be the first promise to appear, and they would
[01:20:32.080 --> 01:20:35.040] have to extract a second promise to appear from me.
[01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:40.400] There's no legal way that they could charge me with bail jumping or violate promise to
[01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:41.840] appear if I don't show up.
[01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:44.840] Now, we all know that they would anyway.
[01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:45.840] Exactly.
[01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:51.720] Yeah, if I don't show up, they'll just go ahead and issue a warrant because I guess
[01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.480] they think they can get away with it, but I have not jumped a bail because no bail was
[01:20:55.480 --> 01:21:00.840] given to me and no second promise to appear, like a PR bond, they make you promise to appear
[01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:03.600] on into the future, okay?
[01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:08.240] All there was was the original citation, which was dated wrong to begin with.
[01:21:08.240 --> 01:21:10.280] But this is what we're up against.
[01:21:10.280 --> 01:21:13.440] Oh, I wish that's all we were up against.
[01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:18.040] Well, I mean, it's not all we're up against, obviously, but it's just a small example of
[01:21:18.040 --> 01:21:19.040] what we're up against.
[01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:22.520] Yeah, we're up against judges who could care less what the law says.
[01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:25.240] I'll let you get to the other callers and I'm going to keep listening, so I appreciate
[01:21:25.240 --> 01:21:26.240] your show.
[01:21:26.240 --> 01:21:27.240] Thank you, Dan.
[01:21:27.240 --> 01:21:28.240] Thanks, Dan.
[01:21:28.240 --> 01:21:32.200] Okay, we're going now to Jeff in Texas.
[01:21:32.200 --> 01:21:34.440] Hey, Jeff, thanks for calling in.
[01:21:34.440 --> 01:21:35.440] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:38.240] Yeah, can you turn your volume up?
[01:21:38.240 --> 01:21:42.240] I could hear the previous caller, but you guys are way low.
[01:21:42.240 --> 01:21:45.440] Jeff, can you please get off of Skype?
[01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:51.440] I think that's probably your problem because we never seem to have problems with anybody
[01:21:51.440 --> 01:21:56.040] except for people that call in on Skype, so try to call in on a regular phone line.
[01:21:56.040 --> 01:21:58.640] We're going to go now to Will in Austin.
[01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.440] Will, thanks for calling in.
[01:22:00.440 --> 01:22:01.440] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:06.440] Hi, I just thought I'd check in with Eddie and Randy.
[01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:12.320] Eddie gave me some information on my ticket situation.
[01:22:12.320 --> 01:22:18.640] I recently did get to a prosecutor meeting and that's when they finally came up with
[01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:29.240] a complaint on my citation over two months after the file was opened.
[01:22:29.240 --> 01:22:40.920] Then Eddie suggested I get an FOIA form and I got a hold of Randy, which is where he said
[01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:45.040] they were, in one of his websites.
[01:22:45.040 --> 01:22:46.800] I guess I'm just too much of a literalist.
[01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:53.720] I'm real new at this and so I'm having a hard time doing some of the easiest stuff to y'all.
[01:22:53.720 --> 01:23:02.120] I found some forms, a number of forms, with Randy's direction, but they're called open
[01:23:02.120 --> 01:23:04.120] government requests and I was expecting...
[01:23:04.120 --> 01:23:05.120] Yeah, okay.
[01:23:05.120 --> 01:23:12.160] I was going to say, FOIA really applies to the federal government, but we kind of use
[01:23:12.160 --> 01:23:22.600] freedom of information request as a general term and frankly, I've kind of clobbered public
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:29.320] officials before when they say, when I call it the open... It used to be open records,
[01:23:29.320 --> 01:23:30.320] now it's open government.
[01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:31.320] They're changing around.
[01:23:31.320 --> 01:23:37.840] Do they give me any crap all the... Well, just give it to me under whatever law applies.
[01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:48.200] I've rewritten my records requests so that they don't specify any particular open record
[01:23:48.200 --> 01:23:59.280] law, 552 government code, the constitutional right to public courts, or whatever law applies,
[01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:02.600] so I don't get that crap all the... It really doesn't matter.
[01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:08.120] You don't have to cite the law under which you're requesting something for the law to
[01:24:08.120 --> 01:24:09.120] be operative.
[01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:14.360] I see, and I read a bunch of your forms and the one that seemed to be most tailored to
[01:24:14.360 --> 01:24:20.200] what I'm going to have to do, I'll have to, of course, amend it for my own use, is the
[01:24:20.200 --> 01:24:25.880] one with your heading on it that says open government request, where...
[01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:31.160] Yeah, that was just kind of generic and just general and it leaves a big open space for
[01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:32.880] you to put in whatever you want.
[01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:38.600] Yeah, because my complaint was apparently generated by two women here in Austin who
[01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:44.680] are assistant clerks, and one doesn't even work here anymore, so I don't know what date
[01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:56.520] that she was no longer there, because this was dated... Actually, there's a conflict
[01:24:56.520 --> 01:25:05.280] of dating in it that I went down to the court on February 17th, and I asked for everything
[01:25:05.280 --> 01:25:13.480] that was in my folder on February 17th, and this was supposedly signed on February 2nd,
[01:25:13.480 --> 01:25:23.680] about 15 days difference, and it still hadn't gotten in there in that 15 days.
[01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:32.360] My need to find out, open government records, is to find out if this one clerk, when her
[01:25:32.360 --> 01:25:41.840] employment terminated, to see if there's any conflict in this being dated after she left.
[01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:46.160] What are you... I'm not understanding the nature of the conflict of the date.
[01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:47.160] I've got...
[01:25:47.160 --> 01:25:51.520] Well, the thing is, the complaint that they signed on him was signed by two clerks of
[01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:54.920] the court, one signed it, one witnessed it, okay?
[01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:59.720] The problem is that one of the signers doesn't work there anymore, so what we're trying
[01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:03.080] to find out is, did she leave before the date of the signing?
[01:26:03.080 --> 01:26:06.000] Yes, that's kind of what I thought you were going to get to.
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:12.280] Did they use a stamp of her signature or some other electronic reproduction?
[01:26:12.280 --> 01:26:18.120] Which would prove the document of forgery and really put somebody in hot water.
[01:26:18.120 --> 01:26:23.200] The arresting officer, or the officer that was called to the accident, is nowhere in
[01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:26.520] the complaint, of course.
[01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:31.880] The first thing that comes to mind is, nah, they wouldn't do anything that stupid.
[01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:35.640] They seem to be keep doing it over and over and over.
[01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:36.640] Yeah.
[01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:43.720] Ken Magnuson and Ben Drum were... Ben had a ticket, I forget, somewhere east of Dallas,
[01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:56.120] and they got a verified oath of office from this officer, but the stamp that they stamped
[01:26:56.120 --> 01:27:03.320] the oath with was expired when they stamped it.
[01:27:03.320 --> 01:27:11.720] So Ken said, I can't imagine a notary, not knowing that their notary stamp was expired.
[01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:19.680] He said, I bet this cop went in there and dug an old notary stamp out of the drawer
[01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:23.280] and stamped his oath with it.
[01:27:23.280 --> 01:27:31.120] When he files criminal charges against the notary, the notary's going to have a fit.
[01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:33.400] Would they do things that stupid?
[01:27:33.400 --> 01:27:38.640] Absolutely they would.
[01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:43.040] This goes to a real important point.
[01:27:43.040 --> 01:27:44.880] Pay attention to the details.
[01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:45.880] Yes.
[01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:47.760] Read everything.
[01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:48.760] Examine everything.
[01:27:48.760 --> 01:28:01.200] Yeah, I had a guy a couple days ago, went to closing on a note and was reading every
[01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:08.200] document and said that the trustee had a fit, threatened to cancel the closing if he read
[01:28:08.200 --> 01:28:12.600] all the documents, because she didn't have time.
[01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:18.960] In 17 years she'd never had anybody do that, 17 years.
[01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:23.800] I actually had one of my cases in this same court down here with this judge.
[01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:29.560] I wanted to show that the court was acting as the prosecution and was not acting as an
[01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:35.160] impartial judicial as they were supposed to be, and I managed to do that because the notice
[01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:44.120] they sent me in the mail to appear for trial, not a pre-hearing, to appear for trial, the
[01:28:44.120 --> 01:28:50.400] date the letters were signed and mailed to me was two weeks before there was a criminal
[01:28:50.400 --> 01:28:54.280] complaint signed and filed in the case.
[01:28:54.280 --> 01:28:58.000] So how can a court order me to appear for a trial when there's not even a criminal
[01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:01.920] complaint in existence?
[01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:04.960] Maybe you have a clairvoyant court.
[01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:05.960] That may be.
[01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.000] That was the same thing you saw happen to me.
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:17.840] I had to go see before the judge, before they even had gotten a plea of guilty or not guilty
[01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:21.360] on the second ticket, the court date that they had.
[01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:26.600] Yeah, they were trying to hold him in violation of a previous order, but the requirements
[01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:30.480] were that he not be convicted on a new one.
[01:29:30.480 --> 01:29:34.560] Well, he hadn't been convicted yet, but they were going to hold a hearing and revoke everything
[01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:35.560] anyway.
[01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:36.560] Right.
[01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:39.400] All right, Will, we're going to break.
[01:29:39.400 --> 01:29:42.280] Do you have another question that we need to hang around for?
[01:29:42.280 --> 01:29:47.720] Well, I hope I can kind of talk to y'all later and-
[01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:49.720] Okay, listen, we're going to break right now.
[01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:51.320] Do you need to hang on or no?
[01:29:51.320 --> 01:29:52.320] No.
[01:29:52.320 --> 01:29:53.320] Okay, all right.
[01:29:53.320 --> 01:30:00.520] We'll be right back and we'll go to Greg in Texas.
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[01:31:15.280 --> 01:31:18.400] 512-646-1984.
[01:31:18.400 --> 01:31:24.480] And folks, I will ask y'all one more time, I'll start having the call screeners mention
[01:31:24.480 --> 01:31:25.480] it as well.
[01:31:25.480 --> 01:31:28.120] Please do not call in on Skype, okay?
[01:31:28.120 --> 01:31:32.960] Please do not call in on Skype, I realize that we do not have an 800 number that is
[01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:41.440] not within our budget range right now, however, most cell phone plans have unlimited minutes
[01:31:41.440 --> 01:31:48.040] after 7 or 8 p.m. or at least a considerable amount, even if you don't have a landline,
[01:31:48.040 --> 01:31:51.440] I mean, most people have cell phones these days.
[01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:55.520] If you don't, just pay for the long distance call, please or else you're going to have
[01:31:55.520 --> 01:32:00.200] to work something else out, but please do not use Skype because if you get on Skype
[01:32:00.200 --> 01:32:04.640] with a headset, it's going to be blasting loud, I can't accommodate for it, it's usually
[01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:10.080] a very bad quality where people use their onboard microphones and their laptops and
[01:32:10.080 --> 01:32:14.120] their speakers at the same time, and it gets all kinds of feedback and audio problems,
[01:32:14.120 --> 01:32:18.680] so please do not call in on Skype, please, all right?
[01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:25.720] Please just call in on a regular phone, no headset, no Bluetooth, none of those little
[01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:29.480] dangling, you know, like the iPhone thing with the microphone on the wire that's hanging
[01:32:29.480 --> 01:32:34.760] down by your chin, don't use any of that stuff, just use a regular phone, if you use a cell
[01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:37.080] phone, use the handset, please.
[01:32:37.080 --> 01:32:39.640] Okay, we're going to go now to Greg in Texas.
[01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:42.640] Greg, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind?
[01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:43.800] Hi, Debra.
[01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:48.600] You guys are awesome, you did a great job Saturday, I just want to appreciate that.
[01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:49.600] Oh, thanks.
[01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:56.560] Appreciate what you're doing, and I had a little case, this little curfew thing, I'm
[01:32:56.560 --> 01:33:01.840] not going to get into that because you all have a lot of other important things to do,
[01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:06.280] but I was there in spirit with you guys on Saturday and listened to just about every
[01:33:06.280 --> 01:33:12.720] minute of it, and I just, if the FCC ever shuts you down, I think I'll really snap.
[01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:17.240] Well, rule of law radio will never go down, that's for sure because it's an Internet
[01:33:17.240 --> 01:33:23.800] stream, and the FCC doesn't have their grubby little hands on that yet, so, all right, go
[01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:24.800] ahead.
[01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:29.040] Well, I just want to thank you guys, and Randy and you, and I wish I could have been there,
[01:33:29.040 --> 01:33:37.120] I don't have a vehicle and I can't get around like that, but you all did a great job, and
[01:33:37.120 --> 01:33:42.200] I just want to thank you for that, and oh, and your thing last week about Mr. Blue Tie
[01:33:42.200 --> 01:33:48.320] and the cat with the feathers in his mouth about broke a rib laughing at that, it's so
[01:33:48.320 --> 01:33:49.320] funny.
[01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:51.400] Well, yeah, it was pretty funny.
[01:33:51.400 --> 01:33:59.320] Had you been there and saw, I saw the look on the, on the fed's face, he was so embarrassed
[01:33:59.320 --> 01:34:04.000] and he's looking past me and I turned around and looked at Deb and she was just cracking
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:05.000] up.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:09.600] Yeah, well you all have me cracking up, I just pictured this big Cheshire cat with feathers
[01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:13.760] sticking out, you're great, you guys take care.
[01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:14.760] Thank you.
[01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:21.880] Okay, we don't have any other callers on the bridge right now, 512-646-1984, if you all
[01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:27.080] want to call in, we're discussing traffic issues or other things that may be on your
[01:34:27.080 --> 01:34:31.080] mind, so, go ahead, Randy.
[01:34:31.080 --> 01:34:36.640] Getting to, through all of the steps of what to do when you come to court is getting to
[01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:44.640] be difficult, we'll probably have this done by 2022, there's so many, changing the statutes
[01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:45.640] we might.
[01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:50.280] Well, there's so many issues that we keep dancing around, I like this though because
[01:34:50.280 --> 01:34:54.440] it helps you get a better feel for how the laws fit together.
[01:34:54.440 --> 01:34:56.520] And how they're being broken.
[01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:02.080] And when you, when you jostle them around this way, the primary laws tend to stick in
[01:35:02.080 --> 01:35:10.560] your mind a lot better, so it sounds like we're just bouncing all over the place, but
[01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:17.200] this will make a lot more sense to folks, and if we can get them to begin to understand
[01:35:17.200 --> 01:35:23.400] them rather than just know them, then it gets a lot easier to work in court.
[01:35:23.400 --> 01:35:29.200] But I'm fixing to go to court, and I want this one to be a really, really good one,
[01:35:29.200 --> 01:35:34.240] so that's why I'm pushing to sort all this out, and frankly, this is good for me because
[01:35:34.240 --> 01:35:40.600] it, we're looking at what the judge may do, and then when they, when the judge does what
[01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:46.160] he does, we will have already came up with options.
[01:35:46.160 --> 01:35:52.080] Yes, that's the plan I'm hoping is to do that, have the options in place before they're
[01:35:52.080 --> 01:35:53.080] needed.
[01:35:53.080 --> 01:36:00.240] Yeah, I'm, I am looking forward to asking the judge to call in a U.S. Marshal, I mean
[01:36:00.240 --> 01:36:05.520] a City Marshal, because in Austin they've got City Marshals, and have him arrest the
[01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:14.720] prosecuting attorney for practicing law without a license, amongst other things.
[01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:17.360] Amongst other things, and especially if it's a city attorney.
[01:36:17.360 --> 01:36:24.040] Oh, it will definitely be a city attorney, and I hope it's that, the big kind of robust
[01:36:24.040 --> 01:36:28.320] guy that was there the first time.
[01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:34.680] This guy appeared to be dumb as a box of rocks, and he frankly looked like a nice guy, but
[01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:39.400] dumb as a box of rocks, so I would like to have fun with him.
[01:36:39.400 --> 01:36:40.400] Yeah.
[01:36:40.400 --> 01:36:43.480] And we've got some callers, folks, you want to go to the call board?
[01:36:43.480 --> 01:36:44.480] Yes, ma'am.
[01:36:44.480 --> 01:36:49.160] We've got Tony from Illinois, Tony, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:36:49.160 --> 01:36:52.160] How are you doing?
[01:36:52.160 --> 01:36:53.160] Pretty good.
[01:36:53.160 --> 01:37:01.000] Regarding the host of office request under 5 U.S.C. 3331, do you also request affidavits
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:08.480] 3332, 3333, officer affidavit and employee affidavit?
[01:37:08.480 --> 01:37:12.600] No, I haven't actually.
[01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:16.760] Because that looks like it might be interesting, let me see, I'll pull it up here.
[01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:19.400] Now, are you talking title 18, 3332?
[01:37:19.400 --> 01:37:23.240] No, I think it's title 5.
[01:37:23.240 --> 01:37:25.600] 5 U.S.C. 3332, and...
[01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:31.320] Okay, I was going to say, title 18, 3332 will let us report them directly to an attorney
[01:37:31.320 --> 01:37:36.880] for the federal government, who is required by law to do exactly what the attorneys here
[01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:41.320] in the state is supposed to be doing when they get a criminal complaint.
[01:37:41.320 --> 01:37:52.960] Okay, the employee affidavit under 3333 says, accept as provided by, let's see, employee
[01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:53.960] affidavit...
[01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:58.320] Okay, so you can't strike against the government, you basically have to file an affidavit within
[01:37:58.320 --> 01:38:06.280] 60 days after accepting the office or employment, that your, the affidavit is prima facie evidence
[01:38:06.280 --> 01:38:12.240] that the acceptance and holding of office or employment by the affidavit does not or
[01:38:12.240 --> 01:38:21.400] will not violate section 7311 of this title, and I think that 7311 is regarding loyalty
[01:38:21.400 --> 01:38:27.360] and I think that you won't strike against the government or something like that, but
[01:38:27.360 --> 01:38:34.520] apparently it's required as a matter of employment, so that might be something to request as well,
[01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:35.520] right?
[01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:36.520] Who's employment?
[01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:43.400] Is this all public officials that are required to take the oath, or just...
[01:38:43.400 --> 01:38:54.240] Well apparently, 3333 is an employee affidavit and 3332 is a officer affidavit.
[01:38:54.240 --> 01:38:59.120] Well yeah, but in those cases, those would have to be federal employees and officers.
[01:38:59.120 --> 01:39:02.960] There wouldn't be any direct authority for doing act of statute like that affecting the
[01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.880] government officers of the states.
[01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:10.720] Oh yeah, I understand, I understand that we're just talking federal here.
[01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:11.720] Yeah.
[01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:12.720] Okay.
[01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:18.400] And officers' employees, are you familiar with the difference between the two?
[01:39:18.400 --> 01:39:22.560] Well, it lied to me.
[01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:31.320] An employee is someone who just performs a essentially administrative function.
[01:39:31.320 --> 01:39:36.920] An officer is anyone who makes command decisions on their own.
[01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.160] Right, that's okay, yeah, that's what I thought.
[01:39:40.160 --> 01:39:44.040] Another one of your tactics is the bar complaint.
[01:39:44.040 --> 01:39:45.040] Yes.
[01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:52.640] Now I was reading on the Texas Bar website that, you know, one of the reasons for your
[01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:58.240] tactics is that even though they might throw it in the trash, that it'll affect their malpractice
[01:39:58.240 --> 01:39:59.240] insurance.
[01:39:59.240 --> 01:40:00.240] Yes.
[01:40:00.240 --> 01:40:07.320] Now, if they throw it in the trash, reading on the Texas Bar website, it seems that if
[01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:10.880] they throw it in the trash, they'll just mark it as an inquiry.
[01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:19.240] Are they required to report inquiries to the, you know, the malpractice insurance companies?
[01:40:19.240 --> 01:40:24.160] As far as I understand, everyone that's filed must be reported.
[01:40:24.160 --> 01:40:25.440] Oh really?
[01:40:25.440 --> 01:40:30.040] This thing of inquiry is fairly recent.
[01:40:30.040 --> 01:40:36.520] This year is the first I've heard of it, and I think it's a ploy on the part of these
[01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:43.840] guys to try to find a way around the issue, but in looking at that, what they claimed
[01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:52.680] was that if you didn't claim a violation of a Karen, then they would consider it as
[01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:54.760] an inquiry.
[01:40:54.760 --> 01:41:03.680] So I tell people always to look at the Bar Association standards and write your complaint
[01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:07.040] in the terms of a violation of a specific canon.
[01:41:07.040 --> 01:41:10.840] You can always find one, they're real general.
[01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:16.020] But as far as you know, it doesn't matter how the Texas, the Bar or whatever state rules
[01:41:16.020 --> 01:41:17.280] on your complaint?
[01:41:17.280 --> 01:41:18.280] Right.
[01:41:18.280 --> 01:41:27.040] As far as I know, but that is a very acute distinction to make because certainly they're
[01:41:27.040 --> 01:41:32.360] trying to find a way to protect their fellow bar members.
[01:41:32.360 --> 01:41:39.320] Anyone who thinks that the Texas State Bar is a governing agency over attorneys is dreaming.
[01:41:39.320 --> 01:41:43.760] It's a public relations agency for the attorneys and it's there to protect them.
[01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:50.280] Yeah, you would expect the insurance companies to want to know everything that comes through.
[01:41:50.280 --> 01:42:01.520] Yeah, so I think this is a ploy on their part to try to hide the complaints or the grievances,
[01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:07.960] but I'm pretty close to getting my website set up and I had someone on the other day,
[01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:17.560] Brian from Colorado, and I want to talk to him about how to structure a claim against
[01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:26.120] their bond so we can make it automatic so when we write the bar grievance, it prepares
[01:42:26.120 --> 01:42:32.160] the claim against their bond and he said we could send that to Lloyds of London who underwrites
[01:42:32.160 --> 01:42:36.560] all of these nine companies that do malpractice.
[01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:44.720] I've got to get the details on that, but that would be great.
[01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:46.400] We can use that to really kick behind.
[01:42:46.400 --> 01:42:47.760] We probably need to move ahead.
[01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:48.760] We've got two more calls.
[01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:49.760] All right, I'll get off the line.
[01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:50.760] You guys are off.
[01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:51.760] Bye.
[01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:52.760] Thanks, sir.
[01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:53.760] All right, who else we got?
[01:42:53.760 --> 01:43:11.320] Something's up.
[01:43:11.320 --> 01:43:12.320] I can't hear anybody.
[01:43:12.320 --> 01:43:13.320] There we go.
[01:43:13.320 --> 01:43:14.320] Sorry.
[01:43:14.320 --> 01:43:15.320] We've got Dan from Connecticut.
[01:43:15.320 --> 01:43:16.320] All right.
[01:43:16.320 --> 01:43:17.320] Okay, go ahead, Dan.
[01:43:17.320 --> 01:43:18.320] Thanks for calling in.
[01:43:18.320 --> 01:43:19.320] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:43:19.320 --> 01:43:20.320] Oh, nothing.
[01:43:20.320 --> 01:43:26.880] Just a neat little idea since I'm starting to accumulate a lot of Connecticut-specific
[01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:28.880] motions and documents.
[01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:35.240] Randy, I was wondering what you would think if I could send boilerplate stuff to you and
[01:43:35.240 --> 01:43:39.960] you could add it to juris imprudence, that is.
[01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:42.960] Hold on one second, Dan.
[01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:43.960] We'll be right back.
[01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:44.960] Stay on the line.
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[01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:00.560] Hello.
[01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:01.560] Oh, man.
[01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:02.560] He's in jail.
[01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:11.560] He got busted, man.
[01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:21.560] Oh, man, I'm broke, man.
[01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:29.560] Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:33.560] Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:37.560] Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:42.560] There's always a room at the top of the hill.
[01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:47.560] I hear things are great, fine, and it's lonely left too.
[01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:51.560] They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail.
[01:45:51.560 --> 01:45:55.560] They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:55.560 --> 01:46:01.560] Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:02.560] Okay, we are back.
[01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.560] We're speaking with Dan in Connecticut.
[01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:05.560] Okay, Dan, go ahead.
[01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:07.560] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:11.560] All right, Dan, go ahead.
[01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:13.560] Go ahead, Dan.
[01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:18.560] I'm having so much fun here that I'm starting to accumulate a lot of really good motions
[01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:21.560] that I've written already specific to Connecticut.
[01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:25.560] So I was wondering if it would be any help if I sent them to you guys.
[01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:27.560] It's kind of like boilerplate filling the blanks.
[01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:32.560] I mean, nothing too specific, but obviously discovery requests, whatnot,
[01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:34.560] because I figured that would help.
[01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:37.560] And if everybody else out there could probably do the same,
[01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:38.560] we'd get that going.
[01:46:38.560 --> 01:46:40.560] That would really speed things along.
[01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:41.560] Absolutely.
[01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:49.560] I have on Jerson and Prudence, on my Jerson and Prudence site, under Documents and Research,
[01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:52.560] I have a research folder.
[01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:59.560] If people want to send me state-specific pleadings, I'll make state folders
[01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:04.560] and drop them in the folders and make them available to anybody who wants them.
[01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:07.560] Oh, and you know what else I found the other day?
[01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:11.560] A PDF for Connecticut bar grievances.
[01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:12.560] Oh, good.
[01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:19.560] It's just you can type in all the information right there, the same for judicial conduct complaints.
[01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:25.560] Well, if you will get me those, I'm getting pretty close to where I can get my sites set up.
[01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:29.560] I will use those, take those, and convert them to forms.
[01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:35.560] Yeah, because I took your mother of all Brady motions there, and I made it Connecticut-specific.
[01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:37.560] Wonderful, wonderful.
[01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:38.560] Yeah, so there will be a lot of fun there.
[01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:42.560] But anyway, I'm going to get going, you guys probably have other callers, but keep up the good work,
[01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:44.560] and I figured I'd throw that your way.
[01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:48.560] Well, thanks, Dan.
[01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:52.560] Okay, we do have open phone lines right now.
[01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:59.560] We've got about 10 minutes left, so callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:01.560] Oh, my God, no callers.
[01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:02.560] What do we do now?
[01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:03.560] What are you going to do?
[01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.560] What are we going to do?
[01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:13.560] Well, we're going to go back to talking about how do I get everything in place, every detail in place,
[01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:19.560] so no matter what they do, I've got more stuff to kick the corpola out of them when I get to court.
[01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:21.560] Well, now, you've got all the motions, right?
[01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:30.560] The petition for a prosecutor to show authority and motion for a fair and impartial trial and all that good stuff, right?
[01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.560] No, but I don't know if I have all of them.
[01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:34.560] Yeah, I've got them all in the folder.
[01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:40.560] Yes, I've got them all, and I've got some more interesting ones I'm making up.
[01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:42.560] More interesting ones?
[01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:47.560] Yeah, notice and demand, and I'll have a whole stack of criminal complaints with me,
[01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:53.560] and I'll take some bar grievances and judicial conduct complaint forms with me,
[01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:59.560] and I'll have them spread out all over the table, and I don't know if they have wireless.
[01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:05.560] If they do, I'll bring somebody with me to do legal research so that if the prosecutor mentions a court case,
[01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:10.560] I can pull it up and check to see if he lied to the judge.
[01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:14.560] Oh, this is going to be fun.
[01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:16.560] Well, I guarantee you they'll pull it up to lie to the judge.
[01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:18.560] I've watched them do it.
[01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:20.560] Okay.
[01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:22.560] They'll do what?
[01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:25.560] I said they will pull it up and lie to the judge.
[01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:26.560] I've watched them do it.
[01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:27.560] Oh, yeah.
[01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:32.560] Oh, if I can catch it, oh, that would be great.
[01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:37.560] So if I have somebody there with a computer and a little printer,
[01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:43.560] I think I've got a small printer around here, we just print them out or put them on a zip drive
[01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:45.560] and ask the prosecutor to print it out.
[01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:51.560] Well, I think it would make a very substantial argument that the judge would have a really hard time
[01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:57.560] reasonably going beyond to make the argument that, as I've made before,
[01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.560] that the city attorney cannot prosecute in the name of the state.
[01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:04.560] Well, right here in the statute, sorry, statute doesn't hold any water
[01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:09.560] because Article 1, Section 29 says if any law is written that derogates the Bill of Rights
[01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:13.560] or any other provision of the Constitution, it is null and void.
[01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:16.560] So I don't care what the statute says.
[01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:23.560] The Constitution says this is who can do it.
[01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:24.560] Okay.
[01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:25.560] Where were we when we stopped?
[01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:29.560] That's exactly where I want to go.
[01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:33.560] Yeah, we were in the process of demanding our examining trial
[01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:37.560] and watching the judge hem and haw and say we don't do that here.
[01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:38.560] Well, fine.
[01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:39.560] Find me another car wash.
[01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:43.560] I want details on my car, not just the washing on the outside.
[01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:45.560] I want it all taken care of.
[01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:49.560] And if you can't do it, I'll go to someone who can.
[01:50:49.560 --> 01:50:54.560] And it does work to ask the judge to stand down from the bench.
[01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:58.560] That's not a request they get off.
[01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:07.560] I just did a request for a new trial where we maintained that we had a right to a
[01:51:07.560 --> 01:51:14.560] competent jurist in the first instance, at least one who could read the English language.
[01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:17.560] And I hope the judge got to see that one.
[01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:19.560] So, okay.
[01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:25.560] I want an examining trial, and obviously they're going to refuse the examining trial.
[01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:30.560] And then I will what?
[01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:33.560] Well, at that point, there's a lot of things that could follow what?
[01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:39.560] After the hubbub dies down, after I've asked the bailiff to drag the judge down off the bench
[01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:47.560] and get me in a magistrate in here to do his job because I've got the statute here that says,
[01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:50.560] actually, I could ask him to arrest the officer.
[01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:51.560] Yeah.
[01:51:51.560 --> 01:51:55.560] Well, at that point, you could also sign the criminal complaint for abuse of official
[01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:59.560] capacity and official oppression and demand the judge's disqualification.
[01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.560] I'll have that already written when I go in.
[01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:04.560] But I'm looking at things I can do.
[01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:15.560] If I ask for an examining trial and the judge refuses to perform an examining trial,
[01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:23.560] then I can ask the prosecutor to take criminal complaints against the arresting officer.
[01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:25.560] Or the non-arresting officer?
[01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:26.560] The non-arresting officer.
[01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:35.560] Well, what 543-006 paragraph B says is that in 005, he's authorized to release someone
[01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:42.560] after arrest if they sign a promise to appear in accordance with 006.
[01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:50.560] 006 says the citation must be...
[01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:54.560] Must be before a magistrate having jurisdiction of the offense.
[01:52:54.560 --> 01:53:03.560] The first one, it must order me to appear at least 10 days after the date of the offense.
[01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:04.560] That's A.
[01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:11.560] And B, must require that I appear before a magistrate of the county.
[01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:13.560] Don't say anything about a judge.
[01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:21.560] So what the ticket actually says is that you'll appear and plead guilty, not guilty, or no
[01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:24.560] contending. That's what it actually says on the ticket.
[01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:33.560] Well, he doesn't have authority to authorize me to sign that particular document.
[01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:38.560] He would have been required to bring me, if he wouldn't let me sign one promise to appear
[01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:42.560] before a magistrate, then he had to take me to the magistrate himself.
[01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:45.560] And he failed to do so.
[01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:55.560] So I'll ask him to arrest the officer and declare the officer not a credible witness
[01:53:55.560 --> 01:54:01.560] because he committed crimes against me and therefore is a trespasser of initial from
[01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:03.560] the beginning.
[01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:04.560] All right.
[01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:08.560] We also have a caller, Ken from Texas.
[01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:09.560] Ken, thanks for calling in.
[01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:10.560] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.560] You got barely three and a half minutes.
[01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:14.560] That's plenty of time.
[01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:17.560] I want to talk about promises.
[01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:23.560] When we get stopped by one of these armed people and they make its promise to appear,
[01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:25.560] they take that pretty seriously, don't they?
[01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:31.560] I mean, if we don't show up, they're going to put a warrant or something else on us.
[01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:32.560] Exactly.
[01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:33.560] You know what?
[01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:34.560] What about these officers?
[01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:41.560] I know we've talked all around this, but the officers and all the court people, don't they
[01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:43.560] have oaths of office?
[01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:49.560] Isn't that a promise that they've promised to uphold the laws?
[01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:50.560] Exactly.
[01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.560] The same knife that they're going to cut us with?
[01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:56.560] Isn't that the same blade that we can use against them?
[01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:03.560] That's why I do so enjoy asking a bailiff to arrest the judge.
[01:55:03.560 --> 01:55:07.560] I actually had one tell me once that he worked for the judge.
[01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:09.560] I begged to differ.
[01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:11.560] He worked for the sheriff.
[01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.560] This was in a county court.
[01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:17.560] You work for the sheriff and the sheriff works for me, so does the judge.
[01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:23.560] You've sworn on your oath to keep the peace and it makes no difference who breaches it.
[01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:26.560] Absolutely.
[01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:34.560] I considered in court to ask the officer who gave me the ticket, because he's going to be there at the trial,
[01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:39.560] ask him to arrest the prosecuting attorney.
[01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:43.560] That'd be a hoot.
[01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:44.560] Okay, I interrupted you.
[01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:45.560] Go ahead.
[01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:46.560] No.
[01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:53.560] I just wanted to put that out there because it seems that that's a tremendous opportunity that we're missing
[01:55:53.560 --> 01:56:01.560] because they want to come after us for the slightest little perception that we didn't follow our promise.
[01:56:01.560 --> 01:56:02.560] But wait a minute.
[01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:04.560] Let's look at the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:08.560] All these rules that you have broken, rules.
[01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:10.560] You have to rule my protection of due process.
[01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:12.560] And you've skipped over all these.
[01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:15.560] Each one of those is a violation of your promise.
[01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:18.560] How about you going to jail for violating your promise?
[01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:21.560] That is exactly what I want done.
[01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:23.560] Yeah, and that's what we're after.
[01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:29.560] The problem is you're trying to use the sword against the sword teacher, basically.
[01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:32.560] Even though they're not really, that's the way they view it.
[01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:34.560] Well, you can't use that against me.
[01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:35.560] I'm the one that taught it to you.
[01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:37.560] I'm the one responsible for it.
[01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:38.560] You can't use that against me.
[01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:47.560] So what they've done is put themselves in a separate class, a more privileged class than those of us out here.
[01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:51.560] That alone is a constitutional violation.
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:56.560] And there's nothing more fun than going and getting security and tell them to come with you
[01:56:56.560 --> 01:57:02.560] because I think somebody's going to commit a crime, and when they do, I'm going to want you arrested.
[01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:09.560] I was sitting with Michael Bannerick, and he was telling about me asking a bailiff to go in and arrest a district judge.
[01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:11.560] Okay, we need to move quickly.
[01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:14.560] We've got a couple of minutes and a half left, and we've got Gary from Georgia.
[01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:15.560] Thanks, guys.
[01:57:15.560 --> 01:57:16.560] All right, thank you.
[01:57:16.560 --> 01:57:19.560] All right, thanks, Ken.
[01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:22.560] Okay, Gary, you have about 45 seconds.
[01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:23.560] Tops, go ahead.
[01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:24.560] Yes, ma'am.
[01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:36.560] I want to be real quick, and I want to answer how on a, say, a traffic issue they get to a so-called court when the APA administrative procedure,
[01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:39.560] they haven't exhausted administrative procedures.
[01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:42.560] Eddie's going to like that question.
[01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:43.560] Yeah, I love that question.
[01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:47.560] I've already got a brief saying, you can't get there from here.
[01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:55.560] It fully deals with that issue in very minute detail.
[01:57:55.560 --> 01:58:01.560] I have a friend in Pennsylvania who's very big on the Administrative Procedures Act as well.
[01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.560] Everybody wants to ignore that one.
[01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:07.560] Maybe we can talk about that some more on Thursday because we're out of time.
[01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:09.560] Yeah, Gary, call back in on that one.
[01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:10.560] I would like to discuss that.
[01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:12.560] Okay, Gary, drop us a line.
[01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:15.560] Okay, we'll talk about that some more on Thursday.
[01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:20.560] All right, you've been listening to The Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:21.560] We'll be back on Thursday.
[01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:28.560] Tomorrow, we've got Tom Kiley, I'm in World Report Radio, and the Agenda 21 Talk Boys right after that at 8, Wednesday.
[01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:37.560] We've got Richard Reeves with Outside of the Box Politics and, of course, Radio Free Oklahoma at 8, right after that.
[01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:41.560] This is all Central Time, so we will see you guys on Thursday.
[01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:59.560] Check out the archives from this previous weekend.
[01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:03.560] My name is Randall Kelton and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio.
[01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:08.560] We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials.
[01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:15.560] With the mortgage crisis worsening, we set our sights on finding a remedy for people who have been cheated by their lenders.
[01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:21.560] If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off, you have probably been cheated out of thousands, but there is a remedy.
[01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:32.560] Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140 and find out how to use the consumer protection laws
[01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:36.560] to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception.
[01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:43.560] We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud and put the lenders on the dime.
[01:59:43.560 --> 01:59:47.560] Lender fraud is bankrupting this country and it's time to fight back.
[01:59:47.560 --> 02:00:16.560] Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call 512-430-4140 and get the information you need to stop the money changers in their tracks.