ROL_2010-03-19_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:09.720]  One in three fighters killed in U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan's remote tribal areas
[00:09.720 --> 00:14.400]  is in fact a civilian, according to a report by a U.S. think tank.
[00:14.400 --> 00:21.080]  A new American Foundation's report studied 114 drone raids in which more than 1,200 people
[00:21.080 --> 00:22.080]  were killed.
[00:22.080 --> 00:29.760]  Of those, up to 849 were reliably reported to be fighters, while the rest were civilians.
[00:29.760 --> 00:34.800]  A U.S. congressional panel has described the killing of Armenians by Turkish forces during
[00:34.800 --> 00:39.440]  World War I as genocide, despite White House objections.
[00:39.440 --> 00:43.280]  The resolution was narrowly approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
[00:43.280 --> 00:49.720]  Turkey, a key U.S. ally, responded by calling its ambassador in Washington for consultations.
[00:49.720 --> 00:55.400]  In northwestern Pakistan, 12 people were killed Friday after a suicide bomber targeted Shi'ite
[00:55.400 --> 01:08.000]  Muslims on two buses being escorted by security forces.
[01:08.000 --> 01:14.320]  Former head of Pakistan's ISI spy agency Hamid Ghol says U.S. intelligence agencies are seeking
[01:14.320 --> 01:18.600]  to foment unrest in Iran and train terrorist groups.
[01:18.600 --> 01:23.880]  Ghol said Wednesday Washington is supporting groups like the Pakistan-based Jundala terrorist
[01:23.880 --> 01:24.880]  group.
[01:24.880 --> 01:30.920]  Ghol said U.S. intelligence agencies pursue just one goal by provoking unrest and instability
[01:30.920 --> 01:31.920]  in Iran.
[01:31.920 --> 01:37.800]  Ghol also accused Washington and its allies of seeking to strain ties between Iran and
[01:37.800 --> 01:38.800]  Pakistan.
[01:38.800 --> 01:45.800]  Ghol's remarks come days after Iranian security forces arrested Jundala ringleader Abdul Malik
[01:45.800 --> 01:51.240]  Rigi on a flight from the United Arab Emirates to Kyrgyzstan.
[01:51.240 --> 01:56.440]  During his arrest, Rigi talked about offers of unlimited support by the CIA, saying the
[01:56.440 --> 02:00.960]  Americans, quote, �promised to give us a base along the border with Afghanistan near
[02:00.960 --> 02:07.480]  Iran.� Rigi's group has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist attacks in Iran, including
[02:07.480 --> 02:15.680]  murders, armed robberies, kidnappings, sabotage and bombings.
[02:15.680 --> 02:20.880]  Doctors in the Iraqi city of Fallujah are reporting a high level of birth defects, with some blaming
[02:20.880 --> 02:24.240]  weapons used by the U.S. after the Iraq invasion.
[02:24.240 --> 02:30.120]  The city witnessed fierce fighting in 2004 as U.S. forces carried out a major offensive
[02:30.120 --> 02:33.160]  using depleted uranium and white phosphorus.
[02:33.160 --> 02:38.000]  Now the level of heart defects among newborn babies is said to be 13 times higher than
[02:38.000 --> 02:39.640]  in Europe.
[02:39.640 --> 02:45.280]  Researcher Malik Handam said doctors in Fallujah were witnessing a, quote, �massive unprecedented
[02:45.280 --> 02:52.280]  number of heart defects and an increase in the number of nervous system defects.�
[03:15.280 --> 03:41.840]  �I received my remedy today, came in a box just like they say, I accept it for value
[03:41.840 --> 03:48.840]  right away, it's not too young, it's not too late.�
[03:48.840 --> 03:49.840]  Alright folks, we are back.
[03:49.840 --> 03:53.720]  Hopefully we didn't lose too many people out there while we were taking our little break
[03:53.720 --> 03:54.720]  here.
[03:54.720 --> 03:55.720]  Okay.
[03:55.720 --> 03:57.720]  Now, we were talking with Danny in Texas.
[03:57.720 --> 03:58.720]  Danny, you want to go ahead?
[03:58.720 --> 04:07.520]  Yeah, like I was saying, I sent several people, including y'all, basically a table of changes
[04:07.520 --> 04:13.720]  to the Constitution, all the proposed and passed amendments to the Constitution since
[04:13.720 --> 04:16.120]  1876.
[04:16.120 --> 04:24.240]  And one thing I come across that stood out kind of interesting to me was that in 1969
[04:24.240 --> 04:32.840]  they did a sort of a mass change of a number of things in one swoop, which they refer to
[04:32.840 --> 04:38.840]  in the table there as based on the Deadwood Amendment.
[04:38.840 --> 04:44.400]  And one of those I found was Article 1629, which if you look now it says is that it's
[04:44.400 --> 04:51.240]  been repealed, but it tells you there that it was prohibition against baritry.
[04:51.240 --> 04:58.600]  So, you know, you heard a little bit about the attorneys there earlier, and then this
[04:58.600 --> 05:05.080]  about the Constitution prohibiting baritry before in 1969 got that changed, so no longer
[05:05.080 --> 05:08.840]  any Constitutional objection to it.
[05:08.840 --> 05:17.840]  Well, there is a very strong statutory objection to it, which the judges disobey anyway, but
[05:17.840 --> 05:21.600]  the Constitution would give us something to beat them up with.
[05:21.600 --> 05:27.040]  Well, personally, have you found any text on the Deadwood Amendment?
[05:27.040 --> 05:31.160]  Well, I haven't really looked it up, because I just come across that today, but I would
[05:31.160 --> 05:38.440]  think you could get that from the Legislative Library or something, they got a lot of information.
[05:38.440 --> 05:41.400]  Not only that, what is it an amendment of?
[05:41.400 --> 05:47.480]  They can't amend a statute allowing the statute to amend or change the Constitution, so what
[05:47.480 --> 05:50.760]  is the Deadwood Amendment and where is it?
[05:50.760 --> 05:56.960]  If it's not in the Constitution, then it doesn't have any authority to authorize such a change.
[05:56.960 --> 06:03.280]  Well, if you remember back in 1999, there was a big bunch of changes to the Constitution,
[06:03.280 --> 06:07.120]  and in this table it refers to it as Constitutional cleanup.
[06:07.120 --> 06:12.120]  Well, the wording I remember them saying was like archaic language, removing archaic language
[06:12.120 --> 06:14.080]  from the Constitution.
[06:14.080 --> 06:22.080]  That's where they removed the term something like taxpaying electors and just substituted
[06:22.080 --> 06:26.880]  voters for it, because there were different classes of things.
[06:26.880 --> 06:33.400]  You could vote on, the electors could vote on the monetary issues, such as bonds and
[06:33.400 --> 06:34.400]  things.
[06:34.400 --> 06:37.400]  Somebody didn't pay any taxes, hadn't rendered property for taxes.
[06:37.400 --> 06:40.240]  Yeah, but you see, that's the thing.
[06:40.240 --> 06:44.320]  That's what I was trying to tell people early on about the property taxes.
[06:44.320 --> 06:50.520]  That change in the statement of who is who right there is one of those key flagstones
[06:50.520 --> 06:57.140]  that mark who was allowed to vote on particular types of bills and why.
[06:57.140 --> 07:03.520]  When it says a taxpaying voter, it's talking about someone that has put their property
[07:03.520 --> 07:06.960]  up for the purposes of taxation to vote on a fiscal bill.
[07:06.960 --> 07:07.960]  Right.
[07:07.960 --> 07:11.000]  That's exactly what it's talking about.
[07:11.000 --> 07:15.680]  And now by them taking that out, they didn't take out archaic language.
[07:15.680 --> 07:19.120]  They hid the true meaning of what the Constitution says.
[07:19.120 --> 07:20.120]  Right.
[07:20.120 --> 07:21.120]  That's what they did.
[07:21.120 --> 07:24.040]  So I just want to clarify that.
[07:24.040 --> 07:25.040]  Sorry.
[07:25.040 --> 07:26.040]  Okay.
[07:26.040 --> 07:32.880]  Well, another question I have also, because related to the Constitution, Article 1, Section
[07:32.880 --> 07:39.200]  29 talks about that everything in the Bill of Rights would be invalid.
[07:39.200 --> 07:46.080]  And it seems to me that they would need to make a change to that before they made any
[07:46.080 --> 07:48.680]  other changes within the Bill of Rights.
[07:48.680 --> 07:53.360]  Otherwise, it seems like there's a constitutional problem here that...
[07:53.360 --> 07:58.280]  Well, yeah, the 1836 version said exactly the same thing.
[07:58.280 --> 08:04.320]  The 1836 version said that nothing in this Bill of Rights shall be violated by any means
[08:04.320 --> 08:05.320]  whatsoever.
[08:05.320 --> 08:06.320]  Right.
[08:06.320 --> 08:12.960]  But what I'm saying is there's been some changes made within Article 1.
[08:12.960 --> 08:15.000]  Yes.
[08:15.000 --> 08:16.560]  But it didn't change Section 29.
[08:16.560 --> 08:19.680]  So to me, it seems like...
[08:19.680 --> 08:24.440]  Were they substantive changes or just verbiage changes?
[08:24.440 --> 08:30.240]  Well, those verbiage changes enacted substantive changes by their change in verbiage, just
[08:30.240 --> 08:34.960]  like that taxpayer versus voter.
[08:34.960 --> 08:48.720]  Well, they also changed the requirements for bail in there, in the Bill of Rights.
[08:48.720 --> 08:56.240]  At first, it was just blanket that, you know, pretty much anything was bailable and then
[08:56.240 --> 09:04.640]  change it where, like, a third felony or something that, well, that could withhold bail or commit
[09:04.640 --> 09:10.040]  or accuse a second felony while on bail for a first felony accusation, they could also
[09:10.040 --> 09:12.880]  refuse bail, something like that.
[09:12.880 --> 09:18.640]  That's a substantive change that's in the Bill of Rights.
[09:18.640 --> 09:19.640]  Yeah.
[09:19.640 --> 09:27.320]  Well, see, that goes back to my argument that Article 1, Section 29, specifically prohibits
[09:27.320 --> 09:35.520]  the transportation code, all those codes from being used upon the people because Article
[09:35.520 --> 09:40.080]  1, Section 29 specifically states, everything in the Bill of Rights is forever accepted
[09:40.080 --> 09:46.760]  from the general powers of government, to remain forever inviolate.
[09:46.760 --> 09:51.680]  So any of these statutes that are passed under the general provisions of the Constitution
[09:51.680 --> 09:59.560]  or the general powers of the legislature within the Constitution cannot be used against us.
[09:59.560 --> 10:04.880]  They just cannot be without violating Article 1, Section 29.
[10:04.880 --> 10:08.640]  Yeah.
[10:08.640 --> 10:13.080]  So Danny, you need to bring that issue, you need to get that straightened out.
[10:13.080 --> 10:14.080]  Okay.
[10:14.080 --> 10:15.080]  Which one?
[10:15.080 --> 10:21.560]  You start making a list like we do.
[10:21.560 --> 10:25.320]  I'm going to delegate that problem to you.
[10:25.320 --> 10:26.320]  All right.
[10:26.320 --> 10:27.320]  You're a good man.
[10:27.320 --> 10:28.320]  Okay.
[10:28.320 --> 10:29.320]  I don't care what everybody else said.
[10:29.320 --> 10:30.320]  Yeah, I know.
[10:30.320 --> 10:31.320]  I heard that.
[10:31.320 --> 10:32.320]  Okay.
[10:32.320 --> 10:33.320]  We really need to move along.
[10:33.320 --> 10:34.320]  We've got a whole stack of callers.
[10:34.320 --> 10:35.320]  All right.
[10:35.320 --> 10:36.320]  Later then.
[10:36.320 --> 10:37.320]  Thank you, Danny.
[10:37.320 --> 10:38.320]  Thanks, Danny.
[10:38.320 --> 10:39.320]  Okay.
[10:39.320 --> 10:49.000]  Now we're going to go to Randy in Texas.
[10:49.000 --> 10:52.840]  Randy, you there?
[10:52.840 --> 10:53.840]  I'm here.
[10:53.840 --> 10:54.840]  Good.
[10:54.840 --> 10:55.840]  Hey, guys.
[10:55.840 --> 11:03.800]  I wanted to talk about Rule 120A, Texas Rules of Civil Procedure Special Appearance.
[11:03.800 --> 11:04.800]  Break it up.
[11:04.800 --> 11:05.800]  Well-
[11:05.800 --> 11:06.800]  Code it for us.
[11:06.800 --> 11:14.920]  The deal is not withstanding the provisions of Rules 121, 122, and 123, a special appearance
[11:14.920 --> 11:21.040]  may be made by any party either in person or by attorney for the purposes of objecting
[11:21.040 --> 11:27.840]  to the jurisdiction of the court over the person or the property of the defendant on
[11:27.840 --> 11:33.480]  the grounds that such party or property is not amendable to the process issued by the
[11:33.480 --> 11:36.800]  courts of the state.
[11:36.800 --> 11:46.000]  A special appearance may be made as to an entire proceeding or as to any severable claim
[11:46.000 --> 11:47.560]  involved therein.
[11:47.560 --> 11:54.720]  Special appearance shall be made by sworn motion filed prior to motion to transfer venue
[11:54.720 --> 12:01.840]  or any other plea, pleading or motion, provided, however, that a motion to transfer venue or
[12:01.840 --> 12:06.840]  any other plea, pleading or motion may be contained in the same instrument or filed
[12:06.840 --> 12:16.040]  subsequent thereto without waiver of the special appearance and may be amended to cured effects.
[12:16.040 --> 12:21.760]  The issuance of process for witnesses, the taking of depositions, the serving the request
[12:21.760 --> 12:27.680]  for admissions or and the use of discovery process shall not constitute a waiver of such
[12:27.680 --> 12:29.600]  special appearance.
[12:29.600 --> 12:37.600]  Free appearance prior to judgment, not in compliance with this rule, is a general appearance.
[12:37.600 --> 12:45.680]  And my point here is that we must make a special appearance immediately on all issues.
[12:45.680 --> 12:51.840]  And then we can go to town with all the rest of the motions.
[12:51.840 --> 12:52.840]  Good point.
[12:52.840 --> 12:56.160]  And that's one that I like being made.
[12:56.160 --> 13:02.200]  Once you've made the challenge to the jurisdiction, then you can go ahead and adjudicate all of
[13:02.200 --> 13:06.080]  the other issues without losing your challenge to jurisdiction.
[13:06.080 --> 13:08.840]  It hasn't been waived.
[13:08.840 --> 13:18.000]  And you know, the case in point is my mother's own traffic ticket where I went ahead and
[13:18.000 --> 13:21.640]  got her to file a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction.
[13:21.640 --> 13:28.760]  And I went through all the points, is the citation a complaint?
[13:28.760 --> 13:29.760]  Well, no.
[13:29.760 --> 13:36.600]  Texas Code of Criminal Procedure 45.018A, it's not.
[13:36.600 --> 13:40.400]  Is the citation a summons?
[13:40.400 --> 13:48.800]  Well, Code of Criminal Procedure 23.04, no.
[13:48.800 --> 13:51.600]  Is the service or process proper?
[13:51.600 --> 13:57.400]  Code of Criminal Procedure 45.2.02A, no.
[13:57.400 --> 13:59.720]  Must the defendant plead to a citation?
[13:59.720 --> 14:04.960]  Well, it's only a pseudo complaint, so you don't have to do that.
[14:04.960 --> 14:10.080]  And then I went into the fact that, you know, can a plaintiff proceed against the affiant
[14:10.080 --> 14:17.360]  in a judicial forum without first exhausting all available administrative remedies?
[14:17.360 --> 14:25.760]  Well, as Eddie's pointed out, Texas Administrative Code says no.
[14:25.760 --> 14:30.920]  You know, you've got to have an administrative hearing first.
[14:30.920 --> 14:34.680]  And you know, it just kind of goes on and on and on.
[14:34.680 --> 14:43.200]  But if you do this, I don't think that they can do anything to defeat the in personum
[14:43.200 --> 14:47.640]  nor the subject matter jurisdiction, and you've got them cold dead to rights, and you can
[14:47.640 --> 14:52.480]  go in there and argue as much as you want and bring in all the other motions that's
[14:52.480 --> 15:00.480]  going to set them up for what we intend to do.
[15:00.480 --> 15:06.680]  Works for me, and subject matter jurisdiction is the big deal.
[15:06.680 --> 15:11.320]  As far as the judge is concerned, that's a really big deal.
[15:11.320 --> 15:16.400]  If he fails to prove up subject matter jurisdiction, that's the only time you can sue him personally.
[15:16.400 --> 15:23.680]  Well, remember, Randy, they did not ever do a magistration, which you guys were talking
[15:23.680 --> 15:24.680]  about.
[15:24.680 --> 15:34.040]  Now, I'm not bringing that up, per se, directly, but I'm bringing that up obliquely.
[15:34.040 --> 15:39.560]  And that is, my contention is, that sets them up even better, because they're not even going
[15:39.560 --> 15:42.640]  to see that one coming.
[15:42.640 --> 15:47.800]  Well, that's the ones I really like, is the ones they don't see coming.
[15:47.800 --> 15:55.160]  And once they realize that you've deliberately set them up, then they start getting worried.
[15:55.160 --> 15:57.840]  Then they start getting more cautious.
[15:57.840 --> 16:01.200]  From my perspective, that's what I want them to do.
[16:01.200 --> 16:05.000]  I want them to be afraid that everything you do, you're trying to set them up so you can
[16:05.000 --> 16:08.000]  sting them good.
[16:08.000 --> 16:12.960]  And of course, as long as you've got this, in this motion, I don't ask for a hearing.
[16:12.960 --> 16:22.440]  I'm just putting it out there, and the prosecutor's got to, in this case, it's the hired city
[16:22.440 --> 16:30.360]  attorney, so he can't even proceed anyway, but they've got to set the hearing.
[16:30.360 --> 16:36.360]  So now I can come back in and run the motions like a motion to quash against the police
[16:36.360 --> 16:38.320]  officer who filed the ticket originally.
[16:38.320 --> 16:39.320]  Good.
[16:39.320 --> 16:40.320]  Good.
[16:40.320 --> 16:41.320]  Okay.
[16:41.320 --> 16:42.320]  We're about to go to break.
[16:42.320 --> 16:43.320]  Hang on.
[16:43.320 --> 16:44.320]  We've only got about a dozen callers left.
[16:44.320 --> 16:48.760]  We're going to have to move kind of quickly.
[16:48.760 --> 16:50.240]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[16:50.240 --> 17:00.440]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, Lulva Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[18:59.240 --> 19:28.480]  Okay, this is Randy Craig, we're back, we're talking to, you know, I'm called RuleDude,
[19:28.480 --> 19:33.480]  Randy's called DogDude.
[19:33.480 --> 19:43.280]  The song on the radio, Neighbor, Neighbor, that Jerry and Pat does, Neighbor, Neighbor,
[19:43.280 --> 19:47.680]  keep your dog out of your yard, it's really supposed to be Randy Raylor, keep your dog
[19:47.680 --> 19:48.680]  out.
[19:48.680 --> 19:53.480]  Okay, we have to move along, do you have any other issues, Randy, we've got a bunch of
[19:53.480 --> 19:54.480]  calls.
[19:54.480 --> 19:59.400]  I want to point out that you've got to challenge that jurisdiction, I believe, from the very
[19:59.400 --> 20:05.560]  get-go and the beauty of it is if you do it the way that I'm doing it, I think you still
[20:05.560 --> 20:15.160]  maintain the fact that the Magistration Probable Cause Hearing was never held, but you do it
[20:15.160 --> 20:20.240]  obliquely so they never pick up on that, so then they take it up and they move forward
[20:20.240 --> 20:25.480]  and of course, as you know, that rings the bell and we're just good to go all the way.
[20:25.480 --> 20:30.640]  We've got them dead rights and then we can just proceed down the path giving other motions
[20:30.640 --> 20:33.640]  to set them up and just take them down.
[20:33.640 --> 20:38.600]  Yeah, and you brought that up earlier and what we were talking about when we started,
[20:38.600 --> 20:43.500]  the steps we had went through, we hadn't quite got to the point to where we make the challenge
[20:43.500 --> 20:50.360]  to jurisdiction, they have to state their position and once they state their, assert
[20:50.360 --> 20:55.000]  their authority, then we challenge the subject matter jurisdiction first thing.
[20:55.000 --> 21:00.840]  Right, and the problem though, Randy, that I saw with that is, and I agree with you,
[21:00.840 --> 21:06.200]  is that these guys are criminals and they're going to issue warrants of arrest for you
[21:06.200 --> 21:14.200]  and this will stall them off because they have not followed, even if they did a Magistration,
[21:14.200 --> 21:21.840]  they haven't followed the, it's insufficiency of process, so we challenge them on that and
[21:21.840 --> 21:27.240]  we obliquely attack the fact that they never had a Magistration, so that's kind of like
[21:27.240 --> 21:29.880]  our four aces in the hole.
[21:29.880 --> 21:34.960]  Yeah, and we, I want, personally, I want to sue the judge.
[21:34.960 --> 21:40.560]  Well, no, I agree, I think, I think the whole thing is to set him up for lawsuit.
[21:40.560 --> 21:45.400]  Set, and by the time I get through, I want him to know I'm setting him up so I can sue
[21:45.400 --> 21:48.000]  him personally.
[21:48.000 --> 21:50.480]  And I bow to you, the master.
[21:50.480 --> 21:53.880]  This is the only way we're going to get it back, the only way we're going to get the
[21:53.880 --> 21:59.480]  judges to start following law is to get them afraid that every guy that comes in front
[21:59.480 --> 22:03.120]  of them is setting them up so they can sue them personally and file a couple of bar grievances
[22:03.120 --> 22:04.120]  against them.
[22:04.120 --> 22:09.480]  These municipal judges are all practicing attorneys, well, we take care of that stuff.
[22:09.480 --> 22:16.000]  They can only be a municipal judge in a court of record if they are a card-carrying attorney,
[22:16.000 --> 22:18.000]  so we see if we can't eliminate the card.
[22:18.000 --> 22:22.000]  Okay, we really need to move along, we got a bunch of callers.
[22:22.000 --> 22:23.000]  Thank you, Randy.
[22:23.000 --> 22:24.000]  Thank you.
[22:24.000 --> 22:25.000]  Okay, goodnight.
[22:25.000 --> 22:29.760]  Okay, now we're going to go to James from Texas, James, can you hear me?
[22:29.760 --> 22:34.040]  Yes, gentlemen, goodnight, I mean, good evening, how are you?
[22:34.040 --> 22:35.040]  Good evening.
[22:35.040 --> 22:36.040]  You got a question or comment?
[22:36.040 --> 22:38.080]  I actually have a comment.
[22:38.080 --> 22:44.640]  So I'd like to just intimate to you, gentlemen, that I recently had a win in traffic court.
[22:44.640 --> 22:50.720]  I was not familiar with the jurisdiction process, so I went in slowly with an argument.
[22:50.720 --> 22:58.560]  I was recently ticketed for running a red light, and as I was signing the ticket, the
[22:58.560 --> 23:04.200]  angle at which we were standing puzzled me as to wonder why or how that the officer could
[23:04.200 --> 23:07.720]  see that I actually ran a red light.
[23:07.720 --> 23:13.560]  So part of my court data went down to the intersection, I took quite a few photos, put
[23:13.560 --> 23:19.280]  them on my computer and went into court and sat in front of, they're not lawyers, I'm
[23:19.280 --> 23:26.000]  assuming they're paralegals, and argued my case, and I'm going to spray the details just
[23:26.000 --> 23:31.560]  to keep it short, but after I argued my case, I'm assuming, again, one of the paralegals
[23:31.560 --> 23:43.160]  asked me if I was an attorney, I aspire to be, but she then told me, well, they don't
[23:43.160 --> 23:49.120]  like us to just dismiss these cases outright, and I looked her dead in the eye, cold as
[23:49.120 --> 23:57.960]  can be, and said, how's that my problem, $10 court fee case to Smith, now I still end up
[23:57.960 --> 24:05.080]  paying $10, but it was a win, I felt very good, and I just wanted to spend that money.
[24:05.080 --> 24:06.080]  Nice move.
[24:06.080 --> 24:11.400]  Yeah, well see, that's the thing, they've got it set up where they don't really care,
[24:11.400 --> 24:15.560]  they get more money if you lose, of course, but even if you lose, they're still going
[24:15.560 --> 24:17.520]  to get the court fees out of you.
[24:17.520 --> 24:22.840]  Now how is that justice, folks, and by the way, if they ask me if I'm an attorney, my
[24:22.840 --> 24:31.080]  pat response is always, no, I promised my mother I would not grow up to be a crook.
[24:31.080 --> 24:36.760]  Mine is, and I did this in court recently, the judge asked me if I was an attorney, oh
[24:36.760 --> 24:43.440]  no, Your Honor, I sleep well at night, and I keep my hands in my own pockets.
[24:43.440 --> 24:47.720]  Well, maybe that's the problem with all these politicians these days, they're all attorneys
[24:47.720 --> 24:50.240]  and they have their hands in our pockets.
[24:50.240 --> 24:51.240]  Absolutely.
[24:51.240 --> 24:53.480]  Okay, do you have anything else for us?
[24:53.480 --> 24:58.720]  Gentlemen, I just want to thank you, you know, being two men who fight the eternal fight
[24:58.720 --> 25:03.080]  of diligence, you're paying the price every day and I appreciate it.
[25:03.080 --> 25:05.800]  Well thank you, and congratulations to you.
[25:05.800 --> 25:07.840]  Thank you, sir, have a good night.
[25:07.840 --> 25:11.240]  And do something with that killer attack dog you've got in the background.
[25:11.240 --> 25:13.640]  Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
[25:13.640 --> 25:19.240]  Okay, he sounds like that little four-pound Yorkie I had that was bad motor scooter.
[25:19.240 --> 25:22.800]  Six pounds and a Yorkie, thank you, sir.
[25:22.800 --> 25:23.800]  Okay.
[25:23.800 --> 25:24.800]  Thanks, James.
[25:24.800 --> 25:25.800]  Have a good night.
[25:25.800 --> 25:28.640]  Okay, now we're going to go to Jason in Ohio.
[25:28.640 --> 25:33.160]  Hello, Jason, do you have a comment or a question?
[25:33.160 --> 25:38.120]  No, Your Honor, I am not a petty fogger shyster groveling over filthy lucre.
[25:38.120 --> 25:47.040]  Yeah, but the judge is a black robe terrorist, you must know Robert Fox.
[25:47.040 --> 25:48.840]  Yes, sir.
[25:48.840 --> 25:53.840]  Okay, real quick, the comment from last Monday when you guys were having your discussion,
[25:53.840 --> 25:57.960]  I realized the quote I was looking for and it's this, if they can keep us asking the
[25:57.960 --> 26:01.520]  wrong questions, they never have to provide the right answers.
[26:01.520 --> 26:03.720]  Jeff Sedgwick.
[26:03.720 --> 26:09.240]  And what I think that's telling us and I find it all the time when I'm reading case law
[26:09.240 --> 26:15.520]  is that too often we can resort and we do resort to emotional reasoning.
[26:15.520 --> 26:21.440]  For example, when I first read Ohio case law establishing the court's assumption of statutory
[26:21.440 --> 26:28.160]  or of a statute's constitutionality, I immediately had an emotional response of those dirty, rotten,
[26:28.160 --> 26:35.480]  no good, low down justices thinking that everything is constitutional without even examining it.
[26:35.480 --> 26:44.240]  When in reality what that does is it empowers me to bring a challenge to the statute's constitutionality.
[26:44.240 --> 26:50.800]  So in other words, we're sometimes looking at the wrong end and if we reason emotionally,
[26:50.800 --> 26:54.360]  we're missing, I believe a lot of times what the justices are telling us.
[26:54.360 --> 26:58.200]  Well, now do be careful with that assessment, however.
[26:58.200 --> 27:02.020]  There's two things you need to remember about setting up that argument.
[27:02.020 --> 27:08.800]  The statute itself may very well be absolutely constitutional and you will have the ruling
[27:08.800 --> 27:12.680]  made against you if you argue it from that point of view.
[27:12.680 --> 27:23.160]  What you would need to consider is the enforcement or the application of that statute constitutional.
[27:23.160 --> 27:26.960]  It's not necessarily whether the statute itself is constitutional.
[27:26.960 --> 27:33.480]  If it's written the correct way and it's applied to the right people in the right circumstances,
[27:33.480 --> 27:35.640]  constitutionally it's constitutional.
[27:35.640 --> 27:41.560]  But when they use that statute to violate the rights of the people, it is the application
[27:41.560 --> 27:45.120]  that becomes unconstitutional, not the statute itself.
[27:45.120 --> 27:47.320]  So just be aware of that.
[27:47.320 --> 27:53.280]  There's a difference between prima facie on constitutionality and as it's being applied.
[27:53.280 --> 27:54.280]  Exactly.
[27:54.280 --> 27:59.880]  And I very much like your approach to law because it is very true.
[27:59.880 --> 28:05.720]  If you don't ask the right question, you won't get the right answer.
[28:05.720 --> 28:13.120]  I read case law that appears to be just absolutely dumb and stupid and ignorant and then when
[28:13.120 --> 28:21.240]  I read it more closely, the guys asking the question ask the wrong question.
[28:21.240 --> 28:26.240]  You ask a question and you give the court law to work with, they have to work with the
[28:26.240 --> 28:28.240]  law you give them.
[28:28.240 --> 28:33.800]  You give them the wrong law, you ask the wrong question, you're going to get the wrong answer.
[28:33.800 --> 28:39.360]  And it's absolutely imperative that we become mechanics or engineers.
[28:39.360 --> 28:42.200]  I'm trained as an engineer.
[28:42.200 --> 28:47.520]  And as an engineer, I don't get to complain to nature.
[28:47.520 --> 28:51.800]  Nature is the way nature is and she doesn't care what I think about it.
[28:51.800 --> 28:57.680]  So when I'm engineering a project, I have to consider the parameters that are in front
[28:57.680 --> 28:58.680]  of me.
[28:58.680 --> 29:00.720]  This is what I'm given.
[29:00.720 --> 29:02.880]  This is what I have to work with.
[29:02.880 --> 29:09.640]  And it's my job to adjust what I do to conform to the laws that are in front of me, the laws
[29:09.640 --> 29:18.360]  of nature or physics, and adjust my design to achieve the result I want.
[29:18.360 --> 29:22.240]  When I study law, I have to do the same thing.
[29:22.240 --> 29:28.920]  If I do anything else, I go off in fantasy land and I wind up going to court and the
[29:28.920 --> 29:30.960]  court just blows me off.
[29:30.960 --> 29:38.800]  So I very much like your approach, a careful, considered approach, setting emotion aside
[29:38.800 --> 29:40.880]  and dealing with what's really in front of us.
[29:40.880 --> 29:42.520]  Do you have anything else for us?
[29:42.520 --> 29:43.520]  We're about to go to break.
[29:43.520 --> 29:44.520]  I'll let you guys go.
[29:44.520 --> 29:48.240]  I'm going to call back in on Monday because I want to readdress the promissory note issue
[29:48.240 --> 29:49.240]  for foreclosure.
[29:49.240 --> 29:50.240]  Okay.
[29:50.240 --> 29:51.240]  Thank you.
[29:51.240 --> 30:00.360]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, we'll be right back on the other side.
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[31:28.720 --> 31:35.720]  Okay, we're back.
[31:35.720 --> 31:40.600]  Still back.
[31:40.600 --> 31:41.600]  Still back.
[31:41.600 --> 31:42.600]  Wild and wooly.
[31:42.600 --> 31:49.880]  It's Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens has the night off, rule of law radio.
[31:49.880 --> 31:52.640]  We're going to now, now we're going to go to Jeff in Texas.
[31:52.640 --> 31:56.000]  Jeff, you got a question or comment?
[31:56.000 --> 31:57.000]  Yep.
[31:57.000 --> 31:59.800]  I hope Thomas and James aren't that way.
[31:59.800 --> 32:05.360]  I know James will be, but Thomas, I like Thomas.
[32:05.360 --> 32:06.360]  Know why?
[32:06.360 --> 32:07.360]  I'm online.
[32:07.360 --> 32:08.360]  I'm confused.
[32:08.360 --> 32:13.360]  Thomas is the people I look for.
[32:13.360 --> 32:22.000]  Thomas is the guy that goes, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying, and then he's scheming
[32:22.000 --> 32:25.880]  the back of his head and he goes, okay, yeah, I'm going to show we're doing this, but in
[32:25.880 --> 32:27.480]  the background we're going to be doing this.
[32:27.480 --> 32:32.280]  We're actually going to get completed, and when this fails, we're done, my shit's going
[32:32.280 --> 32:33.280]  to work.
[32:33.280 --> 32:34.280]  Wait a minute.
[32:34.280 --> 32:35.280]  That's what I like about this.
[32:35.280 --> 32:36.280]  This is confusing.
[32:36.280 --> 32:39.880]  You see, it sounds like you started in the middle of something.
[32:39.880 --> 32:41.640]  You want to give us referential index.
[32:41.640 --> 32:45.040]  I remember flying around the airplane.
[32:45.040 --> 32:49.160]  Okay, I think we lost Jeff.
[32:49.160 --> 32:51.640]  Yeah, or at least got a recording.
[32:51.640 --> 32:55.000]  Yeah, that was confusing.
[32:55.000 --> 32:57.920]  We may have had some technical difficulties talking back and forth.
[32:57.920 --> 33:00.720]  He might have thought he was on another show or something.
[33:00.720 --> 33:06.120]  Yeah, Jeff, if you are listening, please hang up and call us back so we'll know what we're
[33:06.120 --> 33:07.120]  getting.
[33:07.120 --> 33:08.640]  Yeah, that came in an odd number too.
[33:08.640 --> 33:10.440]  It looks like a Skype call or something.
[33:10.440 --> 33:16.640]  You know, you come in with a bunch of zeros and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, but it knew who he was,
[33:16.640 --> 33:17.640]  so there's something.
[33:17.640 --> 33:20.400]  It might have just been a problem with the call bridge.
[33:20.400 --> 33:21.400]  Yeah.
[33:21.400 --> 33:25.600]  Okay, we're going to go to unscreened from Colorado.
[33:25.600 --> 33:28.200]  Can you give us your first name?
[33:28.200 --> 33:30.240]  Yeah, Randy?
[33:30.240 --> 33:31.240]  Yes.
[33:31.240 --> 33:34.560]  Yeah, this is David from Colorado.
[33:34.560 --> 33:35.560]  Oh, David.
[33:35.560 --> 33:37.600]  Okay, good.
[33:37.600 --> 33:43.160]  We don't have our caller or anyone running the call board, so you came up unscreened
[33:43.160 --> 33:45.360]  so I didn't know what your first name was.
[33:45.360 --> 33:46.360]  Yeah.
[33:46.360 --> 33:54.120]  Anyway, I've talked to you a couple of times in the past concerning my mortgage situation
[33:54.120 --> 34:02.400]  and in fact, you're working on some paperwork for me right now and what I was calling in
[34:02.400 --> 34:13.600]  about was the local county court case that I had, I guess I had been involved with ever
[34:13.600 --> 34:25.760]  since last May and trying to deal with all the situation that I'm in here with this.
[34:25.760 --> 34:31.520]  This is another one of those situations where the girlfriend gets ticked off at you and
[34:31.520 --> 34:37.360]  starts making all sorts of accusations and then they get the police to start arresting
[34:37.360 --> 34:41.160]  you and then they start harassing.
[34:41.160 --> 34:43.120]  That is correct, yes.
[34:43.120 --> 34:51.360]  And I have been railroaded by this county here in Colorado for the last several months,
[34:51.360 --> 34:52.360]  harassed.
[34:52.360 --> 35:04.080]  Okay, have you read my writ of habeas corpus on the jurisprudence side?
[35:04.080 --> 35:06.120]  I have read that, yes.
[35:06.120 --> 35:10.480]  Okay, go back and look at every arrest you've had.
[35:10.480 --> 35:11.480]  Okay.
[35:11.480 --> 35:17.600]  And then compare the writ to Colorado law, look to Colorado law and it's extremely similar.
[35:17.600 --> 35:22.480]  Actually you have a better grand jury or at least as good a grand jury as we do.
[35:22.480 --> 35:29.480]  What the law says on the duties of grand jury in Colorado is the grand jury shall examine
[35:29.480 --> 35:36.780]  into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge by whatever means.
[35:36.780 --> 35:44.800]  That means there is no statutory restriction on how the grand jury can come to knowledge
[35:44.800 --> 35:47.160]  of a crime.
[35:47.160 --> 35:54.600]  Go back and set all your personal passions aside and become a mechanic.
[35:54.600 --> 35:55.860]  Okay.
[35:55.860 --> 35:59.460]  Look at the parameters, look at the steps.
[35:59.460 --> 36:04.400]  What does Colorado law say that an officer is required to do when he makes an arrest,
[36:04.400 --> 36:08.080]  or without a warrant?
[36:08.080 --> 36:10.640]  Almost certainly, take you before the nearest magistrate.
[36:10.640 --> 36:14.680]  If the magistrate is not available, he can hold you for a reasonable amount of time that
[36:14.680 --> 36:19.280]  it takes to locate a magistrate, it follows the federal law.
[36:19.280 --> 36:23.800]  But his only defense against an allegation of false imprisonment for failure to timely
[36:23.800 --> 36:28.320]  take before a magistrate is a showing of due diligence and effort to locate.
[36:28.320 --> 36:30.920]  I'm sorry, I left the first part of that out.
[36:30.920 --> 36:36.240]  It says there shall be no set time limit.
[36:36.240 --> 36:42.000]  An officer's only defense against an allegation of false imprisonment for failure to timely
[36:42.000 --> 36:46.520]  take is a showing of due diligence and effort to locate.
[36:46.520 --> 36:52.160]  This nonsense that we can hold you for 48 hours only goes to prima facie.
[36:52.160 --> 36:57.140]  On the face of it, if they get you in there within this amount of time, you got to prove
[36:57.140 --> 36:59.200]  it wasn't timely.
[36:59.200 --> 37:03.640]  After this amount of time, the presumption is it was not timely and they have to show
[37:03.640 --> 37:05.280]  cause for the delay.
[37:05.280 --> 37:06.280]  That's all that goes to.
[37:06.280 --> 37:09.120]  Okay, we're supposed to take you to a magistrate first.
[37:09.120 --> 37:13.520]  If they took you straight to jail, they did so in accordance with policy in the Monell
[37:13.520 --> 37:14.520]  sense.
[37:14.520 --> 37:18.960]  And every one of these officials will know what the Monell sense means.
[37:18.960 --> 37:26.000]  If a policy works a violation of law, the agency waves its immunity to suit, and they're
[37:26.000 --> 37:32.800]  not going to want to hear that, then they bring you before a magistrate.
[37:32.800 --> 37:35.680]  Did the magistrate do a proper examining trial?
[37:35.680 --> 37:39.480]  Did he have records in his hand before you talked to him?
[37:39.480 --> 37:41.760]  If he did, who gave them to him?
[37:41.760 --> 37:46.080]  And in what hearing did he get those records?
[37:46.080 --> 37:49.920]  All of these, look, go back through that writ of habeas corpus, it walks down due process
[37:49.920 --> 37:51.960]  start to finish.
[37:51.960 --> 37:54.880]  This is where you nail them.
[37:54.880 --> 38:04.320]  And if you want the police to stop harassing you, go after the highest judge you can find.
[38:04.320 --> 38:08.320]  File a criminal complaint, a minor criminal complaint against an official with a prosecuting
[38:08.320 --> 38:11.720]  attorney and demand that he give it to the grand jury.
[38:11.720 --> 38:16.440]  When he refuses, you make criminal complaints up and go to the grand jury yourself.
[38:16.440 --> 38:21.200]  And when they interfere with you, you make criminal charges up and go to the district
[38:21.200 --> 38:23.080]  judge with them.
[38:23.080 --> 38:27.240]  When he refuses to take them, you go back to the grand jury with criminal charges against
[38:27.240 --> 38:28.240]  the district judge.
[38:28.240 --> 38:32.280]  Now, when he says make them up, he means write them up, not make them up.
[38:32.280 --> 38:33.280]  Right.
[38:33.280 --> 38:34.280]  Yeah.
[38:34.280 --> 38:39.640]  Write up a criminal complaint and look at the complaints against you and prepare it
[38:39.640 --> 38:43.040]  in generally the same form.
[38:43.040 --> 38:46.000]  Take it and sign it before a notary.
[38:46.000 --> 38:49.400]  When you walk this routine, I do this on a regular basis.
[38:49.400 --> 38:55.920]  If I'm going to go after a jurisdiction, I'll go in and get some really nonsense, nothing
[38:55.920 --> 38:56.920]  charge.
[38:56.920 --> 39:00.320]  Generally, I'll just go down to jail and say, I want to see the morning hearing.
[39:00.320 --> 39:02.280]  Well, you can't see the morning hearing.
[39:02.280 --> 39:05.320]  We hold up deep in the jail and you'd be a security risk.
[39:05.320 --> 39:06.320]  No problem.
[39:06.320 --> 39:07.920]  Hold it somewhere else.
[39:07.920 --> 39:10.400]  I'm here and I want to watch.
[39:10.400 --> 39:15.320]  And when they ask me why I want to see it, entertainment.
[39:15.320 --> 39:17.320]  That's my form of entertainment.
[39:17.320 --> 39:19.480]  Business.
[39:19.480 --> 39:26.200]  And when they refuse to let me see it, I file criminal charges against the magistrate with
[39:26.200 --> 39:28.720]  the district attorney and he's going to refuse to take it.
[39:28.720 --> 39:29.720]  That is nonsense.
[39:29.720 --> 39:32.480]  I'm not going to waste my time on this.
[39:32.480 --> 39:37.360]  Then he finds out pretty quickly, I set him up because I come back with criminal charges
[39:37.360 --> 39:40.320]  against him and I want to take those to the grand jury.
[39:40.320 --> 39:43.320]  And when they say, well, you have talked to the prosecutor attorney.
[39:43.320 --> 39:45.800]  Well, I can't talk to the prosecutor attorney.
[39:45.800 --> 39:49.640]  That's against the prosecuting attorney.
[39:49.640 --> 39:55.280]  Then if anybody interferes with me, I go straight to the district judge, the highest judge I
[39:55.280 --> 40:02.040]  can find and make criminal charges against, say the bailiff for shielding criminal charges
[40:02.040 --> 40:05.480]  against the district attorney from the grand jury here.
[40:05.480 --> 40:06.480]  I want you to take these.
[40:06.480 --> 40:08.160]  I want you to hold an examining trial.
[40:08.160 --> 40:11.800]  I want that bailiff and the district attorney arresting.
[40:11.800 --> 40:14.560]  He's going to refuse.
[40:14.560 --> 40:20.480]  Now when you come back to the bailiff, you want to go to the grand jury when they're
[40:20.480 --> 40:24.840]  in session and tell the bailiff, instruct the foreman, I have business with the grand
[40:24.840 --> 40:25.840]  jury.
[40:25.840 --> 40:28.680]  And he'll always say the same thing, may I tell him the nature of the business?
[40:28.680 --> 40:30.160]  No, you may not.
[40:30.160 --> 40:33.720]  I have business with the grand jury and it's none of yours.
[40:33.720 --> 40:38.560]  Well, that'll get him to throw you out.
[40:38.560 --> 40:43.320]  And the first time I go there, that's exactly what I want because I'm going to come back
[40:43.320 --> 40:49.280]  with complaints against him and tell him, Oh, you can't talk to me.
[40:49.280 --> 40:50.920]  You need to get another officer in here.
[40:50.920 --> 40:53.320]  I'm filing criminal charges against you.
[40:53.320 --> 40:57.160]  And that gets their attention.
[40:57.160 --> 41:03.440]  When you come back with criminal charges against the district judge and you're trying to give
[41:03.440 --> 41:10.120]  them to the grand jury, you're going to terrify everybody in the building.
[41:10.120 --> 41:11.120]  Nobody's going to want to talk to you.
[41:11.120 --> 41:12.620]  They're not going to be around you.
[41:12.620 --> 41:18.920]  They don't want anything to do with you because they are terrified of that district judge.
[41:18.920 --> 41:22.600]  And you're beating up the district judge.
[41:22.600 --> 41:24.600]  So they become more terrified of you.
[41:24.600 --> 41:29.040]  Now that's generally how I handle these things.
[41:29.040 --> 41:38.040]  And I've looked at some of the issues in your case and it's clear from the nature of the
[41:38.040 --> 41:45.600]  allegations, they've accused him of mounting a video camera in the bathroom or some nonsense
[41:45.600 --> 41:48.960]  and then they searched the place and they didn't find anything.
[41:48.960 --> 41:56.160]  So he had an angry woman making unfounded charges and it's probably that the police
[41:56.160 --> 41:57.960]  think they're doing the right thing.
[41:57.960 --> 42:03.280]  Well, whether they think they are or not, it doesn't make any difference.
[42:03.280 --> 42:04.280]  They're not.
[42:04.280 --> 42:12.960]  Yeah, which I'm sure that's probably how it started, but from that point on, the way I've
[42:12.960 --> 42:13.960]  been...
[42:13.960 --> 42:18.720]  Well, they probably came in thinking they were doing the right thing and found nothing
[42:18.720 --> 42:21.720]  and got embarrassed.
[42:21.720 --> 42:22.720]  Right.
[42:22.720 --> 42:23.720]  Now they're getting out of hand.
[42:23.720 --> 42:25.520]  Now it's time.
[42:25.520 --> 42:26.840]  Don't fight with them.
[42:26.840 --> 42:31.120]  Deloitte called in last night and he was concerned because he's afraid these guys might shoot
[42:31.120 --> 42:32.120]  him.
[42:32.120 --> 42:37.440]  And that's a reasonable concern, so don't fight with the police.
[42:37.440 --> 42:40.000]  Work your complaint up above them quickly.
[42:40.000 --> 42:41.000]  Okay.
[42:41.000 --> 42:45.200]  Make a complaint to a public official, then go after that official.
[42:45.200 --> 42:55.100]  What you will find is when you get to officials in higher levels, they're much more political.
[42:55.100 --> 43:02.060]  So they tend to recognize a landmine when they see one and they will see you laying
[43:02.060 --> 43:07.480]  landmines for them, doing things that will come back to haunt them.
[43:07.480 --> 43:11.120]  Bar grievances, judicial conduct complaints, stay with them forever.
[43:11.120 --> 43:13.920]  They're going to see you as a big problem.
[43:13.920 --> 43:19.260]  The last thing they want is one of those chump policemen down on the bottom end jerking you
[43:19.260 --> 43:23.240]  around so you can accuse the judge of sending the policeman to do it.
[43:23.240 --> 43:24.240]  Right.
[43:24.240 --> 43:25.240]  Okay.
[43:25.240 --> 43:26.720]  I think I talked too much.
[43:26.720 --> 43:27.720]  Okay.
[43:27.720 --> 43:28.720]  Thank you very much, Randy.
[43:28.720 --> 43:29.720]  I appreciate everything.
[43:29.720 --> 43:35.160]  And all of us out in Colorado, there's a group of us listening, so thank you so much.
[43:35.160 --> 43:36.160]  Okay.
[43:36.160 --> 43:37.160]  Thank you for calling in.
[43:37.160 --> 43:39.480]  And this is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig.
[43:39.480 --> 43:44.680]  We're going to go to break and when we come back, we will take Mark from Michigan.
[43:44.680 --> 43:46.880]  I think that name's familiar somehow.
[43:46.880 --> 43:47.880]  Okay.
[43:47.880 --> 43:48.880]  We'll be right back.
[43:48.880 --> 43:49.880]  Deb's not here tonight.
[43:49.880 --> 44:00.200]  When we come back, Ed, we want to push the architects and engineers, we'll be right back.
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[46:20.200 --> 46:26.200]  appreciate the information we give you, please tell everybody to go down and attend this,
[46:26.200 --> 46:31.240]  get this information in their hands, let's get this settled once and for all.
[46:31.240 --> 46:37.000]  Yeah, and if you happen to see some guy walking around with dark glasses and a white cane
[46:37.000 --> 46:43.800]  and a cup and he looks a lot like me, make sure you put something in for Randy's beer
[46:43.800 --> 46:55.200]  fund, or maybe not, okay, we had a question, emailed us on the break and it was a very
[46:55.200 --> 47:01.920]  good question and before we go to Mark, I'm going to answer that question, Eddie will
[47:01.920 --> 47:03.400]  you read the question?
[47:03.400 --> 47:09.440]  Okay, the question is, since you just talked about bar grievances with a caller a few minutes
[47:09.440 --> 47:14.280]  ago, I have a follow-up question, the claim is that the bar takes your grievance and buries
[47:14.280 --> 47:19.320]  it but somehow the insurance company knows that a grievance exists, how is this possible?
[47:19.320 --> 47:31.040]  Oh, this is so cool, an attorney pays like 35,000, 40,000 a year in malpractice insurance
[47:31.040 --> 47:36.360]  and if you file a bar grievance against one of them, as we've said, the bar will take
[47:36.360 --> 47:42.360]  your bar grievance and they will fill it in the trash and that's a good thing, the reason
[47:42.360 --> 47:50.960]  it's a good thing is as soon as you file the bar grievance, it becomes secret and you can't
[47:50.960 --> 48:02.800]  reveal it, the attorney can't reveal it either except to one entity and that's his insurance
[48:02.800 --> 48:10.840]  carrier, if an attorney receives a bar grievance and fails to report, let me back up a little,
[48:10.840 --> 48:15.040]  when I said they throw it in the trash, that's not actually true, they will just rule against
[48:15.040 --> 48:19.480]  you, they will send you this form letter that says we examined into your complaint and it
[48:19.480 --> 48:27.000]  does not rise to the level of misconduct, standard computer generated, so they don't
[48:27.000 --> 48:36.120]  really throw it in the trash, they just blow up, well, if the attorney gets a bar grievance
[48:36.120 --> 48:44.640]  and he does not notify his carrier and then he subsequently gets sued, the carrier will
[48:44.640 --> 48:52.760]  have the right to cancel, to not cover his issue, it's not that they just cancel but
[48:52.760 --> 48:57.560]  he's not covered at the point that he doesn't notify them of the grievance and the reason
[48:57.560 --> 49:05.360]  being is the only way the insurance company can gauge their level of risk is by the number
[49:05.360 --> 49:11.720]  of bar grievances filed, they can't base it on the substance because the bar made the
[49:11.720 --> 49:20.440]  substance of the complaint secret, nobody can reveal it, so the attorney either tells
[49:20.440 --> 49:28.080]  on himself or pays 40 grand a year for nothing because the insurance would be worthless.
[49:28.080 --> 49:33.040]  Now is it possible though, Randy, that you could just send a copy of your bar grievance
[49:33.040 --> 49:35.120]  to his insurance company?
[49:35.120 --> 49:40.440]  Absolutely, and you know, if there's a question about the substance, just send, there's only
[49:40.440 --> 49:46.480]  about nine insurance companies in the country that do malpractice insurance, so you just
[49:46.480 --> 49:54.080]  send a notice that you filed a grievance to all of them but it's not necessary, they find
[49:54.080 --> 49:57.960]  out, the insurance company may have another way of finding out because they certainly
[49:57.960 --> 50:05.240]  find out that Russell Mortland in a bankruptcy filed three against his attorney and they
[50:05.240 --> 50:14.400]  changed law firms and Russell at the time didn't know why at the end of the hearings
[50:14.400 --> 50:19.280]  they brought the original attorney back in and he complained that Mr. Mortland filed
[50:19.280 --> 50:24.920]  three bar grievances against me and the next year our law firm almost couldn't get malpractice
[50:24.920 --> 50:33.120]  insurance and when we did it nearly doubled, so they get notified and the attorney simply
[50:33.120 --> 50:40.160]  has to otherwise he's paying 30-40 grand for nothing because the odds are if they get sued
[50:40.160 --> 50:48.800]  the first thing the insurance company is going to do is check for bar grievances and in that
[50:48.800 --> 50:56.000]  case they could subpoena not the content but the fact, so bar grievances are really the
[50:56.000 --> 51:02.460]  best tool we have to beat up attorneys with because we get them in their pocketbook, first
[51:02.460 --> 51:07.280]  year of practice one bar grievance they'll cancel your malpractice insurance, the attorneys
[51:07.280 --> 51:13.720]  get out of law school and they can't advertise their business, no licensed professional can,
[51:13.720 --> 51:18.920]  they can only get business by referral so generally if they graduated high in their
[51:18.920 --> 51:26.840]  class then they get hired by a law firm but if not they go down to the court and get appointed
[51:26.840 --> 51:32.680]  to represent people as court appointed counsel and get their name out but if they get a bar
[51:32.680 --> 51:40.280]  grievance they're history, they can't practice but they have to practice without it and risk
[51:40.280 --> 51:45.760]  getting sued for everything they got, so okay that's I think I've used up enough time on
[51:45.760 --> 51:51.120]  that, let me go to Mark in Michigan, Mark do you have a comment or a question?
[51:51.120 --> 51:58.840]  Yeah, I am attacking an old felony conviction, it's the reason why I got into this whole
[51:58.840 --> 52:04.400]  process to begin with and I figured it was about time to go after it, I spent some time
[52:04.400 --> 52:10.320]  spinning my wheels on a motion to set aside but it seemed like that was the precursor
[52:10.320 --> 52:19.480]  for an expungement and to top it off they're very particular on expungements, it's not
[52:19.480 --> 52:26.720]  what I'm interested in anyway but usually they won't expunge for more than one charge
[52:26.720 --> 52:32.160]  and because of the nature of this they charged me with two things to make sure that I wouldn't
[52:32.160 --> 52:37.400]  get this expungement, that was a nice little caveat that they threw in there.
[52:37.400 --> 52:47.400]  So what I found was a motion for relief from judgment and it seems like most of the information
[52:47.400 --> 52:54.880]  out there on that is more civilly based but I'm wondering if you have any experience with
[52:54.880 --> 53:04.560]  this, it's also called a 6.5 motion in Michigan and I shot you over a copy of this and a copy
[53:04.560 --> 53:09.280]  of the case file because I'm trying to find everything, my goal is to attack them on subject
[53:09.280 --> 53:14.360]  matter jurisdiction but I'm a little bit nervous because they're telling me that one half of
[53:14.360 --> 53:21.800]  one percent is usually the amount of percentage that goes through on these things, they seem
[53:21.800 --> 53:29.800]  very, yeah they're very particular about this and they don't allow them to go through very
[53:29.800 --> 53:37.600]  often but I figure I'll be the one half of one percent but I'm wondering what you might
[53:37.600 --> 53:40.200]  know about this.
[53:40.200 --> 53:50.680]  Motion for release from judgment, I'm not, that sounds like a motion to avoid judgment
[53:50.680 --> 53:54.240]  or we find in other places.
[53:54.240 --> 54:01.540]  It is, more or less, I guess when all your appellate options are gone which at the time
[54:01.540 --> 54:07.800]  I never appealed anything but when all your appellate options are gone you got this motion
[54:07.800 --> 54:11.640]  and then you can file a federal habeas if this fails.
[54:11.640 --> 54:16.240]  What are the grounds, what grounds do you have to file this motion?
[54:16.240 --> 54:23.600]  I mean I'm not interested in your particular case but what grounds do you have to have
[54:23.600 --> 54:25.480]  to file this motion?
[54:25.480 --> 54:31.600]  Well they address things and this is one of the things that I got to kind of think through
[54:31.600 --> 54:37.880]  but they're very particular about did you raise these issues during your appeal, has
[54:37.880 --> 54:45.240]  your appeal run out, anything past a year this is your last option.
[54:45.240 --> 54:51.400]  Now typically this is used for people who are still in custody, prisoners who are still
[54:51.400 --> 55:00.280]  kind of stuck and have run out of their appeals but so I need to come up with a good excuse
[55:00.280 --> 55:09.400]  of why these issues weren't raised and insufficiency of counsel I don't know is going to cut it.
[55:09.400 --> 55:17.320]  Okay, do you have challenges to the subject matter jurisdiction, do you have due process
[55:17.320 --> 55:21.400]  issues that you can address?
[55:21.400 --> 55:28.780]  The first one being the whole Riverside versus McLaughlin, you know the bringing before the
[55:28.780 --> 55:35.120]  magistrate within three days, they held me for six days before I ever went before a magistrate,
[55:35.120 --> 55:38.920]  that's my first one and I've been kind of combing through, there's other issues I was
[55:38.920 --> 55:41.000]  going to try and attack fourth amendment.
[55:41.000 --> 55:47.000]  Okay, when you went before the magistrate did he hold a proper examining trial?
[55:47.000 --> 55:54.920]  Gosh, we're going back ten years, yeah it seems to me like he did unless there's details
[55:54.920 --> 55:55.920]  I'm not thinking of.
[55:55.920 --> 56:02.360]  Was the officer, arresting officer present?
[56:02.360 --> 56:04.360]  I don't know.
[56:04.360 --> 56:10.320]  Proper examining trial would require that all evidence be entered into the court in
[56:10.320 --> 56:14.760]  the trial, did he have a file in front of him that he had already looked at before you
[56:14.760 --> 56:19.360]  got in front of him?
[56:19.360 --> 56:20.360]  Couldn't tell you.
[56:20.360 --> 56:27.640]  This is pretty common, you might look at how, this occurred in Michigan, you might talk
[56:27.640 --> 56:36.000]  to some folks in Michigan and find out how they do the arrest and procedure, someone
[56:36.000 --> 56:40.400]  that will still be clear on mind how it goes.
[56:40.400 --> 56:46.240]  If they arrested you, took you directly to jail, that's due process violation in the
[56:46.240 --> 56:51.040]  Monell sense which gives you a shot at the jurisdiction.
[56:51.040 --> 56:56.680]  If they brought you before a magistrate who already had evidence against you in his hand,
[56:56.680 --> 57:03.680]  he obviously held an ex parte hearing with someone, most likely a jailer, while you were
[57:03.680 --> 57:08.960]  being held in a cell and prevented from being there.
[57:08.960 --> 57:15.200]  Now what was interesting is there was, it's the only thing this attorney that I had filed,
[57:15.200 --> 57:22.640]  he filed a complaint for habeas court, this is what he called it, and he raises, I'll
[57:22.640 --> 57:28.000]  just read the point real quick, the detention and incarceration is illegal and it has been
[57:28.000 --> 57:32.080]  held by the police department since such and such a date without being arraigned before
[57:32.080 --> 57:40.600]  any magistrate, called this guy and asked him why he didn't file a motion to dismiss.
[57:40.600 --> 57:45.760]  We talked about subject matter, just jurisdiction, guy was clueless and he said well no, I wouldn't
[57:45.760 --> 57:51.920]  have filed a motion to dismiss, so he raised the issue in the habeas and then dropped the
[57:51.920 --> 57:52.920]  ball thereafter.
[57:52.920 --> 57:57.440]  Then you might file for ineffective counsel.
[57:57.440 --> 58:02.760]  Okay so, and you think that was, oh I hear the music.
[58:02.760 --> 58:10.880]  Okay, we'll sit here a little bit, but this is a good case to file, ineffective counsel,
[58:10.880 --> 58:12.880]  was it court appointed counsel?
[58:12.880 --> 58:13.880]  No, no.
[58:13.880 --> 58:19.160]  It could have been better, it would have been easier, but file for ineffective counsel, okay
[58:19.160 --> 58:23.160]  we'll address that more on the other side.
[58:23.160 --> 58:30.880]  This is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens has the night off, the rule of law radio,
[58:30.880 --> 58:37.160]  and we're talking to Mad Mark from Michigan, always starting trouble.
[58:37.160 --> 59:00.160]  Okay we'll be back on the other side.
[59:00.160 --> 59:04.360]  My name is Randall Kelton and I co-host on rule of law radio.
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[01:00:15.600 --> 01:00:19.880]  Tensions in southern Yemen continued to rise Thursday after police killed a separatist
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[01:01:01.520 --> 01:01:06.040]  was found with the Taliban to resolve the eight-year-old conflict.
[01:01:06.040 --> 01:01:11.600]  Ida said he hoped a spring peace juggle Afghan President Hamid Karzai is organising would
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[01:04:33.720 --> 01:04:48.360]  Okay, Mark.
[01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:55.160]  This motion for release of judgment, my concern with it is it appears to be a motion that
[01:04:55.160 --> 01:04:59.000]  will go to the discretion of the court.
[01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:03.800]  The court will look at the facts and act on its discretion.
[01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:07.600]  I was a little disturbed by that too, to be honest with you.
[01:05:07.600 --> 01:05:13.920]  And frankly, when you go to the discretion of the court, you can expect them to screw
[01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:14.920]  you royal.
[01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:22.320]  Well, and to top it off, the judge who originally oversaw this, and it was a plea deal at the
[01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:31.320]  time, but originally who oversaw this is still there and it goes right back before him.
[01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:33.360]  Good.
[01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:42.400]  Go for his... First of all, I would look for anything that goes to subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:46.120]  Anything that gives me a shot at that judge.
[01:05:46.120 --> 01:05:52.960]  If you can find a due process violation that would disqualify the court, then according
[01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:58.120]  to Russell Mortland, go to the stripping doctrine.
[01:05:58.120 --> 01:06:03.440]  Strip that judge of his immunity and go for him.
[01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.440]  He's going to want this to go away.
[01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:11.520]  These days and times there's no justice, there's only politics.
[01:06:11.520 --> 01:06:15.760]  Yeah, I was looking for a hammer.
[01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:22.120]  So, if we weren't going for a motion for relief from judgment, could I just go for a motion
[01:06:22.120 --> 01:06:23.120]  to dismiss?
[01:06:23.120 --> 01:06:24.120]  Yes.
[01:06:24.120 --> 01:06:30.040]  A motion to avoid judgment for lack of subject matter jurisdiction because it violated this
[01:06:30.040 --> 01:06:37.600]  due process right and this due process right... Go ahead.
[01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:39.160]  One last thing.
[01:06:39.160 --> 01:06:41.320]  I told Eddie about this the other day.
[01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:45.960]  I went down to get the case file because I haven't seen this thing in 10 years.
[01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:50.680]  I go down there and talk to the clerk and the first day they didn't have the file and
[01:06:50.680 --> 01:06:57.520]  I'm just being nice and I said, okay, I come back and... Well, actually, they had the
[01:06:57.520 --> 01:06:59.200]  wrong file.
[01:06:59.200 --> 01:07:02.540]  I come back and this lady hands me the case file.
[01:07:02.540 --> 01:07:03.540]  She asked me to look through it.
[01:07:03.540 --> 01:07:07.360]  I looked through it and she tells me to hand her back what I want copied.
[01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.800]  So, I was... Because of what had happened the previous day, I just handed her all back
[01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:15.120]  and said, I want a complete copy of the file.
[01:07:15.120 --> 01:07:20.160]  She goes through it and starts paging through it and she starts pulling out files.
[01:07:20.160 --> 01:07:25.760]  She pulled out about four pages and she said, you know, you can't see these and I said,
[01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:31.680]  well, can I at least look at them and she said no and I tried to ask her, you know,
[01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:32.680]  what are they?
[01:07:32.680 --> 01:07:33.680]  I really need to know.
[01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:40.280]  She said that you can't see them by law and you just handed me the case file.
[01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:46.880]  But I really didn't... I mean, I guess my bad, I didn't expect her to do that so I don't
[01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.640]  know for sure what she did but there's no police report in here so I assume that was
[01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:59.080]  one of the documents and I heard her mumble something about the prosecutor's recommendation
[01:07:59.080 --> 01:08:04.840]  but, you know, she was held four documents and wouldn't copy them for me.
[01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:09.240]  So I'm kind of thinking I'm going to include some kind of criminal charge but I'm looking
[01:08:09.240 --> 01:08:11.040]  for some direction on that one.
[01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:19.000]  Yeah, you need to look at... Since you don't know what they were, then give her... Look
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:28.800]  on my website under Jewish and Prudent site, under documents and research and blanks.
[01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:37.200]  There's an open records request in there called title scope and content.
[01:08:37.200 --> 01:08:44.440]  What that asks for is it doesn't ask for any particular information.
[01:08:44.440 --> 01:08:45.440]  Just look at it.
[01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:50.040]  You won't want to file that one but what you're going to want to file is a request for the
[01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:58.320]  scope and substantive content of all documents contained in the file and you may want to
[01:08:58.320 --> 01:09:04.640]  restrict it to the substantive scope and content of all records contained in the file that
[01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:07.080]  are not open for public inspection.
[01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:13.520]  You're not asking for the record but you're asking what kind of record is it, what type
[01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:18.400]  of information does it contain?
[01:09:18.400 --> 01:09:20.960]  And what's the law that says I can't have it?
[01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:28.240]  Okay, you can ask for that but she's not required to give you that but once you know what the
[01:09:28.240 --> 01:09:36.600]  record is and what the nature of the document is, then you can research to find out how
[01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:44.160]  it's... Oh, one thing you can ask for... Oh, no, I started to say an order of the court
[01:09:44.160 --> 01:09:56.720]  sealing it but you might want to do a search on Michigan law and criminal records not public
[01:09:56.720 --> 01:09:58.960]  or restricted.
[01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:06.760]  I'd have to think about how to structure the query but first if you can get them to tell
[01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:13.480]  you what the nature of the documents are... Yeah, yeah, well I did call the attorney so I'm
[01:10:13.480 --> 01:10:19.600]  asking him... He thinks he might have the file so I may still be able to get a look
[01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:26.080]  at the paperwork and that would also be helpful but I want to catch them on this one.
[01:10:26.080 --> 01:10:29.880]  I want to nail them on this one so that's real helpful.
[01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:38.680]  She was... You've got nothing to lose here so... Yeah, for sure but they were definitely
[01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:43.000]  being a pain in the butt and she looked like she had something to hide like she really
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:50.960]  didn't want me to see these so we'll see and I thought it could be work product but I didn't
[01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:51.960]  know.
[01:10:51.960 --> 01:11:00.320]  No, none of that, no, work product after the case is over, there is no work product, after
[01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:07.120]  the case is over it's hard for them to claim that anything is restricted and what she may
[01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:15.080]  be doing is withholding things that are only withheld in active open file and if that turns
[01:11:15.080 --> 01:11:17.960]  out to be the case you need to hammer her for it.
[01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:24.000]  Okay, okay, good enough, well thank you guys, really appreciate it and I'm going to document
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.800]  this so I'll keep you posted.
[01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.040]  Good, good, thank you.
[01:11:28.040 --> 01:11:34.200]  Okay, now we're going to go to Kevin Vann out of California.
[01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:35.560]  Hello Kevin.
[01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:38.360]  Hey, Randy, how you doing?
[01:11:38.360 --> 01:11:46.560]  You know the last caller there, I was working on a similar case there where a guy got felony
[01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:54.400]  conviction and did a plea deal and find out that the judge didn't have a proper oath of
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:55.400]  office.
[01:11:55.400 --> 01:11:58.960]  He had something that he made up himself in there and it didn't conform to the constitutional
[01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:05.520]  requirements for the judge there, you know, for the offices of the judicial, you know,
[01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:06.520]  office.
[01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:11.280]  So, you know, we attacked him on that and he didn't like that and he made that thing
[01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:16.040]  go away quicker than you could, you know, shine a shoe.
[01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:21.960]  That's exactly, that's exactly the point I was making to Mark, make this thing political,
[01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:25.400]  make it something that will hurt the judge and the judge is going to want this thing
[01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:26.400]  to go bye-bye.
[01:12:26.400 --> 01:12:32.040]  Did you have a particular question or issue you wanted to address?
[01:12:32.040 --> 01:12:39.160]  Well, that was one of them I thought was quite handy and, you know, just where I'm always
[01:12:39.160 --> 01:12:45.320]  coming from is just check your local constitution, the first one that got your state into equal
[01:12:45.320 --> 01:12:53.120]  footing with the union under an act of admission of some sort and because most of these states
[01:12:53.120 --> 01:13:00.480]  or these republics have provisions there that protect you from almost anything, false banking
[01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:09.560]  claims, you know, such as credit card debts, mortgages, teaches you that basically the
[01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:15.160]  people created the constitution and the branches of government so therefore you're on top of
[01:13:15.160 --> 01:13:20.080]  the game and you can tell the court whatever you like to do because you have higher status
[01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:21.960]  and authority.
[01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:29.040]  Now my favorite thing is to query people after their name is what their address is and I'd
[01:13:29.040 --> 01:13:35.120]  like to query you on what your address is if you don't mind.
[01:13:35.120 --> 01:13:37.880]  You mean me personally or you're talking about querying the judge?
[01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:43.600]  No, no, just you in particular because this is a fun little thing to go on and then I'll
[01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:46.720]  give the game away later on if you can't get it right.
[01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:52.680]  It's Peel Box 41094, Austin, Texas.
[01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:57.280]  I didn't ask you for a mailing location, I asked you what your address is after your
[01:13:57.280 --> 01:13:58.280]  name, right?
[01:13:58.280 --> 01:13:59.520]  I asked you your name so you said that.
[01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:00.520]  Now what's your address?
[01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.480]  Let's go on and continue here because this is good for the mind because we've been so
[01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:11.680]  trained to think of it the way that we do that maybe this will tickle your brain and
[01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.760]  get you out of that cycle there.
[01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:21.920]  Okay, I'm considering that an address is something other than a place where I receive mail.
[01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:29.160]  Right, and most people think of that as something else and what may that be?
[01:14:29.160 --> 01:14:33.440]  My place of abode or my residence.
[01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:37.680]  Well that's what they have trained us to believe that it's something totally different than
[01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.680]  that even.
[01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.920]  Eddie, do you want to pipe in there?
[01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:45.120]  No, man, go ahead, I like your spiel.
[01:14:45.120 --> 01:14:54.280]  Okay, well, see what it is, is police are trained to find out, okay, let's take it from
[01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:56.560]  an Army standpoint, okay?
[01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:01.040]  When people are just about to engage in battle, you want to know what the flag of their country
[01:15:01.040 --> 01:15:05.000]  is and that would be the name of the country, okay?
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:11.920]  And then you would want to find out their status of who they are and what rank of the
[01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.840]  guy on the battlefield, what his rank is.
[01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:21.080]  And then you want to find out pretty much where his chest pieces are on the battlefield.
[01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:25.880]  So basically if we take it and look at it like that, it's the same thing as like a cop
[01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:30.320]  coming up to you and asking you your name and then he asks you what your address is.
[01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:34.800]  If you tell them where your abode is or where you take up housekeeping or you give them
[01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:40.160]  a mailing address, that's not what he's asking you for, even though that's what he's been
[01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:43.280]  trained to think it is also, just like the rest of us.
[01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:49.560]  However, it's something totally different and that is what your address is, is okay,
[01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:54.720]  what's your name, what's your rank and authority, is what he's calling for, what's your address.
[01:15:54.720 --> 01:16:01.360]  If they ask me, it's like Kevin Michael, one of the people, well, that's my address right
[01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:02.360]  there.
[01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:04.360]  How do you get to that?
[01:16:04.360 --> 01:16:07.920]  Your Excellency or Your Majesty or something like that, right?
[01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:08.920]  Okay.
[01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:09.920]  Okay.
[01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:10.920]  How do you establish that?
[01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:17.440]  If they raise a question, how do I establish that that's not my address as opposed to where
[01:16:17.440 --> 01:16:19.440]  I receive mail?
[01:16:19.440 --> 01:16:26.920]  Well, see, the problem is that they're taught in the academy that an address is where you
[01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:32.320]  take up a residence necessarily, but that's wrong.
[01:16:32.320 --> 01:16:36.040]  Where would I find a different definition of address?
[01:16:36.040 --> 01:16:43.040]  You can look in Webster's 1828, Black Second, you can go back to Blackstone's.
[01:16:43.040 --> 01:16:44.040]  Okay.
[01:16:44.040 --> 01:16:45.040]  Okay.
[01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:46.040]  Hold on.
[01:16:46.040 --> 01:16:47.040]  I'm about to go to break.
[01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:48.520]  We'll pick up on the other side.
[01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:54.800]  This is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens has the night off, Rule of Law Radio,
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[01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:40.960]  All right, we are back.
[01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.800]  This is Eddie Craig and Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens has the night off.
[01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.120]  Go ahead, Kevin.
[01:18:47.120 --> 01:18:51.800]  Okay, yeah, I wanted to ask, why is this important?
[01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:54.920]  Why do I care?
[01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:55.920]  Why do you care?
[01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:03.040]  Well, if you don't care that the law of presumptions that are operating upon you in the court,
[01:19:03.040 --> 01:19:05.080]  on the street and anywhere else you go.
[01:19:05.080 --> 01:19:10.800]  Well, how does this issue, I mean, I wasn't being facetious.
[01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.360]  How is this important?
[01:19:14.360 --> 01:19:21.280]  Well, see, since our law stems from that of England and the common law and then we had
[01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:26.880]  nobles and we had the king and the queen and stuff like this, it was a very orderly society.
[01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:33.040]  We knew that the king and the queen and the princesses and the prince had ultimate authority.
[01:19:33.040 --> 01:19:41.560]  Then we had the noblemen, we had the dukes, the lords, the barons, you know, viscount,
[01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:43.040]  you know, etc. like that.
[01:19:43.040 --> 01:19:49.840]  And then we had knights and then we had squires and then we had pages which, you know, stuff
[01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.480]  like this and gentlemen, which was like the hierarchy.
[01:19:53.480 --> 01:19:54.480]  Pardon?
[01:19:54.480 --> 01:19:55.480]  Yeah.
[01:19:55.480 --> 01:20:00.600]  This is about establishing my individual position in the hierarchy.
[01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:01.920]  Exactly.
[01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:10.880]  And you've heard of the quote, the Supreme Court that states that in America we're sovereigns
[01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:12.920]  without subjects, right?
[01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:13.920]  Yes.
[01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.600]  Yes, I've heard that.
[01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:17.800]  I've got that somewhere.
[01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:24.720]  Well, that quote is particularly true in one way but it's completely untrue in another
[01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:33.240]  way because this is how I look at it is like you and I are kings operating in our sphere
[01:20:33.240 --> 01:20:41.800]  of influence wherever we are and if we meet up, it's great and now we can contract or
[01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:44.600]  we can refuse to contract, okay?
[01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:51.400]  Now let's say you get elected to office as a governor or a judge or whatever, you know,
[01:20:51.400 --> 01:20:53.960]  a congressman or a senator or whatever else.
[01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:59.040]  So basically now you become the subject of me because you're supposed to go up there
[01:20:59.040 --> 01:21:01.540]  and vote what I tell you to do, one of the people.
[01:21:01.540 --> 01:21:08.600]  And if we can collectively get together and issue you orders, how it's supposed to work
[01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:13.760]  is that you're not supposed to vote your conscience on the bill, you're supposed to do what the
[01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.160]  people are telling you to do.
[01:21:15.160 --> 01:21:18.160]  That's why you're their representative and they vote you to go up there.
[01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:20.560]  Yeah, but how does that go to this address?
[01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:29.880]  Well, okay, well, how it goes is if we look at each of the constitutions for each individual
[01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:43.560]  republic in the unequal footing with the original 13 colonies, states, the preamble pretty much
[01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:44.560]  sets the tone.
[01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:50.320]  We, the people, make the constitution for ourselves and our posterity and then we get
[01:21:50.320 --> 01:21:56.320]  down to like Article 1, Section 1, like the Bill of Rights and Article, I mean, Section
[01:21:56.320 --> 01:21:57.800]  2.
[01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:01.080]  Article 1 is generally stating that...
[01:22:01.080 --> 01:22:06.160]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, it's still, you're being very general, it still doesn't
[01:22:06.160 --> 01:22:07.160]  tell me why...
[01:22:07.160 --> 01:22:10.560]  Of course, I'm being general but I'm going to get around to it and you're going to find...
[01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:13.960]  We need to move quickly, we've got a stack of callers.
[01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:15.240]  Right, right.
[01:22:15.240 --> 01:22:19.960]  Well, if we look at it like this, it's like Article 1 in the Bill of Rights, especially
[01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:25.320]  where I'm from, states that all the people are free by nature, can acquire property,
[01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:31.880]  protection and defend such and then Article, Section 2 is basically that all political
[01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:38.280]  power is inherent in the people and the people have the right to reconstruct the government
[01:22:38.280 --> 01:22:40.760]  anytime they feel like they need to.
[01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:51.520]  Okay, so then what happens from there is the people, our ancestors, who wrote the constitutions
[01:22:51.520 --> 01:23:00.320]  were considering their posterity which we are theirs as some sort of, you know, we call
[01:23:00.320 --> 01:23:07.200]  it in the lineage of them, especially if your great paternal grandfather or grandmother
[01:23:07.200 --> 01:23:10.920]  fought in the Revolutionary War against George III here.
[01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:18.840]  So basically, when we made this constitution, our great grandfathers, grandmothers, grandfathers
[01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:25.560]  especially, no women were in there, we created all the branches of government.
[01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:31.840]  We did not grant to the legislature, the judicial branch or the executive branch to tell the
[01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:38.360]  people what to do, okay, because it's like further on down in the Article 2 or 3 or 4.
[01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:39.520]  I'm totally lost.
[01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:46.040]  I don't see how this goes to evidence, when the police ask me for my address.
[01:23:46.040 --> 01:23:51.720]  It's an hierarchy thing here and it's like, you know, of course, I'm talking in broad
[01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:55.880]  terms because maybe somebody will get it here and if I can get that message to one guy,
[01:23:55.880 --> 01:24:01.120]  maybe that will spark something else and then we can contact it.
[01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:07.520]  If we look at all the books on etiquette from the last 300 years and what the teaching of
[01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:11.920]  it was, is what's proper manners?
[01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:19.040]  We don't go around treating one of the noblemen like a serf on the land now, do we?
[01:24:19.040 --> 01:24:24.640]  We have to first find out, like in military language, first find out who our opponent
[01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:30.400]  is and where they are in the ladder of rank and everything and go and deliver a message
[01:24:30.400 --> 01:24:33.400]  that we're thinking of going to war with you.
[01:24:33.400 --> 01:24:37.680]  And if he's somebody higher than you, you have to respect that.
[01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:44.520]  So these officers are merely going around there asking for your name and your rank and
[01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:48.400]  in order to establish whether they have jurisdiction over you.
[01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:52.760]  So when they ask for address, we should say, I'm one of the people.
[01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:57.400]  Well, when they ask you for your address, you tell them I'm one of the people and you're
[01:24:57.400 --> 01:25:02.840]  my servant created by the Constitution and I'm here and a beneficiary of that Constitution
[01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:04.880]  and you're my servant here.
[01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:09.200]  And you're going to be doing what I'm telling you here if you don't have a warrant for
[01:25:09.200 --> 01:25:10.200]  my arrest.
[01:25:10.200 --> 01:25:16.840]  And that'll get me beat into unconsciousness with some of the cops I know, but okay, I
[01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:17.840]  see your point.
[01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:23.680]  Yeah, and I'm driving the point home because every man on the street at the point of the
[01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:27.920]  gun has got to decide for himself whether he wants to go with this, but look, there's
[01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:36.240]  other ways that we can present this article too is that if, you know, I've heard a lot
[01:25:36.240 --> 01:25:43.320]  of other comments on how to handle situations like that and one of them is that if he wants
[01:25:43.320 --> 01:25:47.440]  you to get out of your car and he doesn't want to answer anything, the way to avoid
[01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:51.560]  that is to call for his superior and then if you can't get along with his superior,
[01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:55.080]  call the next one up and go all the way to the chief of police or the sheriff of the
[01:25:55.080 --> 01:25:58.720]  county to get some kind of administrative remedy on the street there.
[01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:02.000]  I definitely like that idea.
[01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:08.480]  When I can get an officer to call for his superior, I feel like I've got his attention
[01:26:08.480 --> 01:26:12.640]  and if I can't, I generally try to do it myself, but I've had the cell phone ripped out of
[01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:16.040]  my hand a couple of times to keep me from doing that.
[01:26:16.040 --> 01:26:18.160]  But we really need to move on.
[01:26:18.160 --> 01:26:21.000]  We've got a couple more calls and we're running out of time.
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  Sure, sure.
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:27.480]  We'll all step out and, you know, it's always good to introduce some ideas because the walnut
[01:26:27.480 --> 01:26:29.360]  is worth cracking at some point.
[01:26:29.360 --> 01:26:30.840]  Yes, it is.
[01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:31.840]  Thank you, Kevin.
[01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:32.840]  Sure thing.
[01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:33.840]  Okay.
[01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:34.840]  Okay.
[01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:35.840]  Now we're going to go to Brian in Colorado.
[01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:36.840]  Brian?
[01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:37.840]  You there?
[01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:42.040]  My cell phone battery is almost dead, guys.
[01:26:42.040 --> 01:26:44.240]  Oh, sorry about that.
[01:26:44.240 --> 01:26:45.240]  That's okay.
[01:26:45.240 --> 01:26:50.400]  I need to respond real quick and I'm very short and sweetened to the point.
[01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:58.960]  Number one, I utilized you guys' program on a foreclosure here in Colorado and I'm not
[01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:06.120]  going to drop any names, but it was a $1.7 million deal and the person in the home was
[01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:07.120]  the renter.
[01:27:07.120 --> 01:27:12.920]  And Colorado has a very obscure statute, which I understand now is in all 50 states that
[01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:18.200]  if you're a renter and have a lease and you record the lease at the recorder's office,
[01:27:18.200 --> 01:27:24.200]  if the person who is foreclosed upon does not honor their contract in the foreclosure,
[01:27:24.200 --> 01:27:26.560]  you can use turf and step into their shoes.
[01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:34.000]  Two weeks ago, we did that and we now have a $1.7 million property free and clear as
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  of this morning at 9 a.m.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  Wonderful.
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  Congratulations.
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.320]  I thought that would make you guys get a little grin.
[01:27:41.320 --> 01:27:47.200]  That was in Douglas County, Colorado, Castle Rock, and the home used to be owned by Michael
[01:27:47.200 --> 01:27:48.960]  Dijon, who was a baseball player.
[01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:52.920]  Yeah, just tell them to donate 1% of what we saved them, see?
[01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:54.960]  To Randy's Beer Fund.
[01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:55.960]  Yep.
[01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:56.960]  Randy's Beer Fund.
[01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:57.960]  You know what, Randy?
[01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:01.680]  Fill them up and I'll buy you a half barrel and you can stay up there whenever you want.
[01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:02.680]  Beautiful.
[01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.880]  Yeah, but the problem is you're going to be rolling him all the way back to Texas on that
[01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:06.880]  half barrel, too.
[01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:11.360]  Yeah, I would roll down from Castle Rock and probably wouldn't stop rolling until I land
[01:28:11.360 --> 01:28:12.360]  there again.
[01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:13.360]  That's not a problem.
[01:28:13.360 --> 01:28:19.920]  Second thing, I'm the guy that called in last week with Russell Mortland involving the translation
[01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:20.920]  issue.
[01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:21.920]  Yes.
[01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:31.400]  My client, Mr. Small, up in the Chicago area, the judge ruled that they had to assign a
[01:28:31.400 --> 01:28:37.080]  translator for legalese because he's been refusing the public pretender they appointed
[01:28:37.080 --> 01:28:38.080]  him.
[01:28:38.080 --> 01:28:43.880]  Can you send me the information I need to find that on PACER?
[01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:51.480]  Yeah, you can pick a small case up that's on PACER that's in Rockford, Northern District,
[01:28:51.480 --> 01:28:52.480]  Illinois.
[01:28:52.480 --> 01:28:59.240]  They went ahead and assigned a translator on the federal case.
[01:28:59.240 --> 01:29:06.000]  At the state level, on his driving about a license, he was held for 20 days and we utilized
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:14.000]  the UCC 1-308 defense because he had filed a 308 prior to him being locked up and that's
[01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:23.240]  that gentleman, Colonel Williams, I believe his name is, that's on coppermoonshinestills.com.
[01:29:23.240 --> 01:29:27.840]  Just a little one-page ditty, we put in a motion to dismiss, he was out in the jail
[01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.760]  within 10 minutes.
[01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:36.480]  Had another guy here in Douglas County, Colorado, on a felony charge.
[01:29:36.480 --> 01:29:42.080]  Hold on a second, we're about to go to break, we'll pick you back up on the other side.
[01:29:42.080 --> 01:29:45.600]  Wait a minute, hold on, hold on, we're going to break, we'll pick you back up on the other
[01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:46.600]  side.
[01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:47.600]  Okay.
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[01:31:49.360 --> 01:31:53.000]  last five minutes of the show so we have to leave some people hanging out there because
[01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:59.080]  we will not be doing overtime tonight, the 9-11 thing tomorrow will prevent Randy from
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[01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:10.800]  All right.
[01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:14.960]  Okay, back to Brian in Colorado.
[01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:15.960]  Hi.
[01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:22.160]  Yeah, we've had so many successes in the past week, I just, you know, you guys have given
[01:32:22.160 --> 01:32:29.760]  more information out in the past years and if people would just sit, stop, think, listen,
[01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:35.240]  learn and use it, they would get out a majority of the issues that they have.
[01:32:35.240 --> 01:32:36.240]  A majority.
[01:32:36.240 --> 01:32:37.240]  That's good to hear.
[01:32:37.240 --> 01:32:39.240]  I thank you guys for what you do.
[01:32:39.240 --> 01:32:41.960]  And it's good to hear that we're actually beginning to get wins.
[01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:48.080]  I am just completely ecstatic about what's been going on for the week.
[01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:49.080]  Just ecstatic.
[01:32:49.080 --> 01:32:50.080]  This is good to hear.
[01:32:50.080 --> 01:32:54.840]  And I've been trying to do this for almost 30 years.
[01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:59.280]  Oh, let me jump back to something that's very important.
[01:32:59.280 --> 01:33:05.320]  I was an insurance broker in 1980 through 1985, and I did strictly Arizona emissions
[01:33:05.320 --> 01:33:06.320]  insurance.
[01:33:06.320 --> 01:33:13.160]  If you take your parking plate and file it with the insurance department for the state
[01:33:13.160 --> 01:33:17.800]  that you live in, it'd be the secretary of the Department of Insurance, all 50 states
[01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:22.880]  have them, and you include a cover letter stating you are not aware of who the current
[01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:27.720]  carrier is, they will find out who the carrier is because all those policies are earmarked
[01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:34.640]  and licensed through the Department of Insurance, and they will make sure and get that to the
[01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:35.640]  insurance carrier.
[01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:40.600]  And instead of just putting a bar complaint, you also put a tort claim, and a tort claim
[01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:41.600]  is very simple.
[01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:42.800]  It's a one-page tort claim.
[01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.200]  Each state has them, and they will settle with you.
[01:33:46.200 --> 01:33:51.640]  I've had hundreds of those cases go across my desk in the past two years, and most insurance
[01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:54.920]  companies will pay anywhere from $8,000 to $20,000.
[01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:57.160]  Oh, that is good to hear.
[01:33:57.160 --> 01:34:01.160]  And they will cancel their insurance after the second claim.
[01:34:01.160 --> 01:34:02.160]  Is that right?
[01:34:02.160 --> 01:34:03.160]  Oh, good, good.
[01:34:03.160 --> 01:34:07.760]  Then we might want to talk to you to give more details on how to structure the complaint.
[01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:10.160]  Out of practice than you could ever believe.
[01:34:10.160 --> 01:34:14.800]  And keep in mind, I'm also one of those guys that's the director of the Illinois Bar Association.
[01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:15.800]  Trust me.
[01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:16.800]  I know a lot about this.
[01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:19.800]  Wait, I'm kind of losing your signal.
[01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:20.800]  I'm sorry.
[01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:28.200]  I'm up in the mountains, and I said that after the second claim, they reevaluate, and they
[01:34:28.200 --> 01:34:31.340]  usually cancel the insurance.
[01:34:31.340 --> 01:34:38.720]  The bar attorneys that, quote, practice, what a joke, if they have no insurance, they're
[01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:43.820]  not allowed to come before a court, including the guys in the black robes.
[01:34:43.820 --> 01:34:49.880]  You can also file claims against magistrates, which is not hard to do.
[01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:51.960]  You do a simple bar complaint.
[01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.520]  Those are card-carrying attorneys.
[01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:56.720]  They are not judges.
[01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:01.680]  And you just file it with the Department of Insurance with a tort claim.
[01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:05.640]  You file it for your actual cost, damages, and how much it was at the time, things like
[01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:06.640]  that.
[01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:07.640]  Okay.
[01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:10.960]  I'm going to have to look that up for Texas.
[01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:19.320]  And I own the domain name bargrievance.net, and I'm trying to get a site set up so people
[01:35:19.320 --> 01:35:27.880]  can file bargrievances online, and then have the system forward it to the, print them out
[01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:28.880]  and copy the bargrievances.
[01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:36.760]  Two nights ago, I got into a discussion with my partner, and he set up blacklaw.co.uk,
[01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:40.480]  which will cover the United States, Canada, and also England.
[01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:45.600]  And we do have direct links with Lloyds of London, which is the actual underwriter for
[01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:46.600]  all E&O insurance.
[01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:47.600]  Okay.
[01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:51.880]  What was the name of that site again?
[01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:52.880]  Blacklaw.co.uk.
[01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:53.880]  Co.uk.
[01:35:53.880 --> 01:36:03.880]  And we'll have that site up and running probably in the next few days.
[01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:11.480]  And we're going to start taking in these complaints, you know, via just a copy, and send it directly
[01:36:11.480 --> 01:36:12.480]  to Lloyds of London.
[01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:18.360]  You want to see, just quote, bar attorneys get off their butt, wait until they get a
[01:36:18.360 --> 01:36:24.160]  letter of an initial carrier, because Lloyds of London underwrites all nine companies for
[01:36:24.160 --> 01:36:27.080]  their insurance for law.
[01:36:27.080 --> 01:36:31.160]  So that will be the one clearinghouse where we're sure to get to the right company.
[01:36:31.160 --> 01:36:32.160]  Yep.
[01:36:32.160 --> 01:36:35.480]  And we're going to want to talk to you about how to line up.
[01:36:35.480 --> 01:36:41.200]  You know, it's real simple to click it over and send it directly to claims office.
[01:36:41.200 --> 01:36:46.320]  So these lawyers, they have 10 days, whenever their claim is filed, they have 10 days to
[01:36:46.320 --> 01:36:49.840]  report it to their carrier, and a lot of them don't bother to do it.
[01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:53.520]  If they don't do it, they risk having their insurance canceled immediately.
[01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:55.520]  Oh, good.
[01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:58.960]  So we need to file the bar complaint and then wait like two weeks.
[01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:04.560]  You file your complaint, you know, you file your complaint with the bar, but you also
[01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:07.320]  file a tort claim with their carrier.
[01:37:07.320 --> 01:37:08.320]  Yes.
[01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:10.880]  The tort claim is what I want to talk about.
[01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:14.800]  And their bond is the insurance E&O, errors and omissions.
[01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:20.000]  I can show you a way to have a lawyer dressed down, taken apart, and just absolutely disseminated
[01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:22.840]  in about three hours.
[01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:23.840]  It's not hard.
[01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:24.840]  Okay.
[01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:25.840]  We need to talk.
[01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:26.840]  We need to talk to these idiots.
[01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:27.840]  That's what they are.
[01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:30.840]  They're idiots.
[01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:32.680]  Okay.
[01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:33.680]  We need to move on.
[01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:34.680]  We're getting a lot of callers.
[01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:35.680]  Okay.
[01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:38.680]  But I'm definitely going to want to talk to you about how to structure this.
[01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:43.880]  But I wanted to thank you guys, like I said, the material that you put out on the foreclosures,
[01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:44.880]  phenomenal.
[01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.880]  Wonderful.
[01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:46.880]  Thank you.
[01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:47.880]  Keep in touch, Brian.
[01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:48.880]  I've never seen anything work out.
[01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:49.880]  Okey doke.
[01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:50.880]  Now we're going to go to unscreened from...
[01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:51.880]  Good evening.
[01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:52.880]  Okay.
[01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:53.880]  Who is...
[01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:54.880]  Okay.
[01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:55.880]  Area code 612.
[01:37:55.880 --> 01:37:56.880]  We don't have your name.
[01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:57.880]  Are you there?
[01:37:57.880 --> 01:37:58.880]  Hello.
[01:37:58.880 --> 01:37:59.880]  Can you hear me?
[01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:00.880]  Yeah.
[01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:09.240]  What's your first name and state?
[01:38:09.240 --> 01:38:10.240]  This is Freeman, Minnesota.
[01:38:10.240 --> 01:38:11.240]  Oh, okay.
[01:38:11.240 --> 01:38:12.240]  I thought you spoke with a strange foreign accent.
[01:38:12.240 --> 01:38:16.120]  Well, actually, I'm not in Minnesota because Minnesota doesn't exist in nature, but for
[01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:17.120]  practical purposes.
[01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:18.120]  Anyway, I had a few questions.
[01:38:18.120 --> 01:38:33.480]  And the last caller actually, I don't know what state he's in or...
[01:38:33.480 --> 01:38:38.480]  He's in Colorado, but his client was out of Illinois, so he kind of gets around.
[01:38:38.480 --> 01:38:40.480]  Did you say he's from Ohio?
[01:38:40.480 --> 01:38:41.480]  No, he's in Colorado.
[01:38:41.480 --> 01:38:42.480]  Oh, in Colorado.
[01:38:42.480 --> 01:38:53.440]  If I contact you at a later time, might I still say some kind of interchange if he was
[01:38:53.440 --> 01:38:54.440]  interested?
[01:38:54.440 --> 01:38:55.440]  Yes.
[01:38:55.440 --> 01:39:04.200]  I will be trying to get in contact with him, and if you will send me an email, I will forward
[01:39:04.200 --> 01:39:05.200]  to him.
[01:39:05.200 --> 01:39:06.200]  I will do that.
[01:39:06.200 --> 01:39:07.200]  Thank you.
[01:39:07.200 --> 01:39:11.400]  So he was talking a lot about UCC filings and whatnot.
[01:39:11.400 --> 01:39:19.560]  I was wondering, you know, I keep hearing and reading about UCC-1 financing statements.
[01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:24.360]  I just completed a period legal certificate, and within that, there was a corporate law
[01:39:24.360 --> 01:39:35.000]  segment that talked about filing a UCC-1 financing statement to perfect your position so that
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:41.760]  you'll have priority as the secured party against the debtor in the event that anybody
[01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:49.640]  else would want to attach NASA to theirs, that you would have priority.
[01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:58.920]  I'm wondering if you would be able to tell me what are the differences in purpose and
[01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:02.000]  function and whatnot and liability.
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:11.280]  And filing a UCC-1 to secure yourself against your straw man.
[01:40:11.280 --> 01:40:12.280]  Okay.
[01:40:12.280 --> 01:40:18.680]  I can't answer this question because it's out of my area of specific knowledge.
[01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:25.160]  Eddie, do you have background in UCC?
[01:40:25.160 --> 01:40:30.240]  Not where I'm going to go dealing with the UCC-1 and straw man issues, I don't know.
[01:40:30.240 --> 01:40:32.960]  Okay, you really need to call into Agenda 21.
[01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:35.000]  Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.680]  Yeah, they're the guys that are knowledgeable in that area.
[01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:40.680]  Okay.
[01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:45.520]  I have knowledge in some areas, but in others, I don't know a lot.
[01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:51.880]  One other issue is that my financial limitations has run out to go after the judge who, I'm
[01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:58.640]  sure you'll recall, accused me of failing to attend a class by September 32, 2009, but
[01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:07.000]  accused me and convicted me of that on March 12, 2009, which, you know, of course, the
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:08.800]  timelines don't add up.
[01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:14.480]  So, as I understand it, I had a one-year statute of limitations and it is required.
[01:41:14.480 --> 01:41:20.200]  Is there anything that in retrospect or right now you think that I should do?
[01:41:20.200 --> 01:41:22.920]  Well, one of your problems is you're in Minnesota.
[01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:28.360]  Yeah, I know, and I've been dying to get out of here for a while, and I'm just not out
[01:41:28.360 --> 01:41:29.760]  of here yet.
[01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:35.160]  Yeah, well, from what I can see, there appears to be no law in Minnesota.
[01:41:35.160 --> 01:41:36.160]  Can you say that again?
[01:41:36.160 --> 01:41:39.000]  I'm trying to mean that literally.
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:45.480]  I've tried to look up their statutes and most of the statutes I found were repealed.
[01:41:45.480 --> 01:41:47.640]  So I don't know what they're going by in Minnesota.
[01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:51.480]  Apparently, they're going by whatever the judges want to do and whatever you pay them
[01:41:51.480 --> 01:41:52.480]  to do.
[01:41:52.480 --> 01:41:56.840]  You know, another thing was, Eddie, you had mentioned, I think that you had mentioned
[01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:01.960]  to me that you'd seen an article about Minnesota legislature turning over the law-making powers
[01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:02.960]  to the judiciary.
[01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:08.000]  I was looking for that article, but maybe I didn't look hard enough, so I wasn't able
[01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  to find it.
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:15.400]  According to what I've read, it's a statute in Minnesota, the legislature's passed, that
[01:42:15.400 --> 01:42:24.800]  they have allowed the legislators or the judicials to basically create their own law, and in
[01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:30.520]  the state Supreme Court handed down a rule stating that they also no longer had to obey
[01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:35.280]  the rules of judicial conduct or any of the court rules.
[01:42:35.280 --> 01:42:39.880]  So basically, the judges in Minnesota can do whatever the heck they want.
[01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:42.680]  Give me a query for that?
[01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:47.560]  No, I don't know what to look for off the top of my head.
[01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:50.360]  It was sent to me in a link and I went and read it.
[01:42:50.360 --> 01:42:53.360]  I'd have to find it again before I could send it to you.
[01:42:53.360 --> 01:43:01.000]  Well, as far as trying to bring some kind of accountability or spotlight onto the judge
[01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:09.440]  that quite obviously committed quite a few violations, and seeing to it that I went to
[01:43:09.440 --> 01:43:16.600]  jail for a 20-day sentence or whatever, in the interest of that, I think the statute
[01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:24.480]  of limitations has expired, is there anything that anybody sees as a possibility for?
[01:43:24.480 --> 01:43:29.400]  Well, the one thing that you might have is a possibility or due process violations.
[01:43:29.400 --> 01:43:30.400]  I'm sorry.
[01:43:30.400 --> 01:43:31.400]  Go ahead.
[01:43:31.400 --> 01:43:37.320]  We're about to go to break, we'll pick this up on the other side and then we'll go to
[01:43:37.320 --> 01:43:39.440]  Marcus in Virginia.
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[01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:57.080]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens has the night off, we're back, we're
[01:45:57.080 --> 01:46:02.440]  going back to unscreened in Minnesota.
[01:46:02.440 --> 01:46:10.520]  Okay, as to your remedies, the best remedy you can get is if you can find due process
[01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:12.520]  violations.
[01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:18.880]  But since you're in Minnesota, probably the best remedy you can get is to get out of there.
[01:46:18.880 --> 01:46:25.000]  Well, as long as I'm here, do you think there's any, is it even worth my while to try to pursue
[01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:26.640]  it at all or?
[01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:31.720]  Probably, if you miss the one year statute of limitations, that's going to throw a lot
[01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:35.160]  of roadblocks in your way.
[01:46:35.160 --> 01:46:38.120]  Because anybody you try to get to take it serious, they're going to want to know why
[01:46:38.120 --> 01:46:42.320]  you waited so long.
[01:46:42.320 --> 01:46:48.800]  Good chance you're better off taking on other issues unless there's something really serious,
[01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:50.760]  an outstanding issue that...
[01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:56.240]  I'll tell you the truth, I kind of just like to point out and have it acknowledged and
[01:46:56.240 --> 01:47:02.800]  have the judge feel on the spot for it and hopefully even be held accountable to some
[01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:07.480]  extent, even if it was just in private with their peers or their peers probably wouldn't
[01:47:07.480 --> 01:47:09.760]  care, their peers would probably be happy about it.
[01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:15.000]  But for the fraudulent accusation and the sentence.
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.200]  You're in Minnesota, not happening.
[01:47:18.200 --> 01:47:24.000]  Did you file a judicial conduct complaint against him?
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:29.720]  I talked to the, I talked to those people and I didn't get a very good feeling from
[01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:30.720]  it.
[01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:31.720]  I probably...
[01:47:31.720 --> 01:47:34.080]  Okay, you don't understand.
[01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:35.960]  They won't do anything.
[01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:41.760]  This is a corrupt state, however, when you file a complaint against them, it goes on
[01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:47.720]  their record, puts a mark on their record and it stays there forever.
[01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:52.440]  And that hurts their, what is it, is it insurance or a bond or indemnity bond, exactly what
[01:47:52.440 --> 01:47:53.440]  is it?
[01:47:53.440 --> 01:47:58.160]  Well, it'll raise their bond rating, but it'll also put them in a position to where if they
[01:47:58.160 --> 01:48:03.240]  get a political enemy, they can use these things to hurt them with.
[01:48:03.240 --> 01:48:10.680]  If they want to go for a higher level, then this is part of their record.
[01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:14.900]  The number of judicial conduct complaints they've got, if the guy next to them doesn't
[01:48:14.900 --> 01:48:17.120]  have as many, he looks better.
[01:48:17.120 --> 01:48:21.940]  So it puts negative marks on their records that stay there forever.
[01:48:21.940 --> 01:48:27.000]  We need to start filing complaints against these judges at every opportunity.
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:34.520]  Well, I've got two seat tickets I got in the last month and because they're low stake scenarios,
[01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:40.800]  I'm looking forward to gaining hopefully a lot of experience in the process of...
[01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:43.320]  Good, good.
[01:48:43.320 --> 01:48:48.640]  That's the best place to learn because on tickets you can't lose.
[01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:52.160]  The worst that's going to happen is they're going to fleece you for what they were going
[01:48:52.160 --> 01:48:54.200]  to fleece you for to start with.
[01:48:54.200 --> 01:48:55.200]  Absolutely.
[01:48:55.200 --> 01:48:56.200]  Okay.
[01:48:56.200 --> 01:48:57.200]  We need to move on.
[01:48:57.200 --> 01:49:01.240]  We've got 10 minutes and one caller and Eddie is going to want to close out with a little
[01:49:01.240 --> 01:49:02.240]  more...
[01:49:02.240 --> 01:49:03.240]  Well, thank you.
[01:49:03.240 --> 01:49:06.040] ...reference to the architects and engineers.
[01:49:06.040 --> 01:49:07.040]  Okay.
[01:49:07.040 --> 01:49:08.720]  Thank you for calling.
[01:49:08.720 --> 01:49:10.440]  We're going to move on to Marcus.
[01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:12.440]  Hello, Marcus.
[01:49:12.440 --> 01:49:13.440]  You have a...
[01:49:13.440 --> 01:49:14.440]  Hi, Eddie.
[01:49:14.440 --> 01:49:15.440]  Call me on your question.
[01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:16.440]  Yeah.
[01:49:16.440 --> 01:49:28.440]  I was just wondering, your main focus in dealing with the no driver's license issue is to go
[01:49:28.440 --> 01:49:32.560]  after the judge and make him frame that and fly right?
[01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:36.800]  Well, my main focus in everything is to go after the judge.
[01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:42.120]  If you can't get the judge to rule on law, the law doesn't matter.
[01:49:42.120 --> 01:49:51.760]  Primarily, what Eddie looks at is not the right to travel, but the fact that you're
[01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:54.760]  not in commerce.
[01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:59.640]  Eddie, you want to explain that?
[01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:00.640]  Yeah.
[01:50:00.640 --> 01:50:05.200]  Here in Texas, when you go through the statutes, it becomes very, very clear that that's exactly
[01:50:05.200 --> 01:50:11.080]  what the license is directed toward is those engaged in operating in commerce upon the
[01:50:11.080 --> 01:50:16.240]  roads and the statutes also make it very clear that the way they've got everything arranged
[01:50:16.240 --> 01:50:19.640]  these days is that is the linchpin issue.
[01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:25.600]  You can't be required to procure insurance if you don't have a driver's license and it's
[01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:33.080]  very clear the driver's license is not required of everybody, only those engaged in commerce.
[01:50:33.080 --> 01:50:37.520]  You can't get registration or inspection without the insurance.
[01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:43.840]  Basically speaking, everything is daisy chained together with the driver's license in Texas
[01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:46.640]  law being the root issue.
[01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:51.040]  Once you eliminate through statute the need of the driver's license, you eliminate the
[01:50:51.040 --> 01:50:52.800]  need of all of it.
[01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:56.960]  If you go to the various sections of the Texas statutes, it's very, very clear that the statutes
[01:50:56.960 --> 01:51:00.960]  are directed strictly at commercial vehicles and drivers.
[01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:01.960]  Okay.
[01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:07.680]  Well, I wanted to bring up something, the reason why I mentioned that is because, well,
[01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:14.480]  I got another strategy and my target is going to be the legal counsel for the police.
[01:51:14.480 --> 01:51:21.240]  Whoever they call up when they're out there giving people tickets and pulling them over,
[01:51:21.240 --> 01:51:27.440]  sometimes they get on the radio and they consult with somebody, I guess at the police station.
[01:51:27.440 --> 01:51:28.440]  Right?
[01:51:28.440 --> 01:51:29.440]  I mean, what...
[01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:33.760]  They're usually talking to the dispatcher or to a supervisor, but they're not usually
[01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:35.800]  talking to an attorney.
[01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:36.800]  Okay.
[01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:45.000]  Well, there was one situation I was involved in where there's definitely somebody, there's
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:52.440]  three cops and they're reading me some legalese or something and it must have come from a
[01:51:52.440 --> 01:51:53.440]  lawyer.
[01:51:53.440 --> 01:51:54.440]  Okay.
[01:51:54.440 --> 01:51:57.000]  I don't think any dispatcher would have come up with this.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:03.680]  I mean, they were trying to tell me something so that they could, you know, that I wouldn't
[01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:05.240]  be able to sue them or something.
[01:52:05.240 --> 01:52:06.240]  I don't know what it was.
[01:52:06.240 --> 01:52:11.320]  I can't remember exactly giving any details, but I figured that they've got some kind of
[01:52:11.320 --> 01:52:15.680]  legal counsel that they can call on whenever they need it.
[01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:18.560]  Am I not right about this?
[01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:19.560]  That's a good idea.
[01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:26.800]  If you can find out who the legal counsel is, you can sue him for malpractice.
[01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:32.600]  If the police are following the legal policies, you can presume the attorney advised them
[01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:33.600]  to do that.
[01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:34.600]  Right.
[01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:35.600]  Yeah.
[01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:41.280]  Now, usually, however, that's going to be the county attorney or the city attorney in the
[01:52:41.280 --> 01:52:43.800]  case of a municipal cop.
[01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:46.760]  But this places him in a whole different position though.
[01:52:46.760 --> 01:52:50.040]  In this context, he's not the county or city attorney.
[01:52:50.040 --> 01:52:51.800]  No, I understand that.
[01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:54.640]  I'm just saying that would be who you would go look for.
[01:52:54.640 --> 01:52:55.640]  Yeah.
[01:52:55.640 --> 01:53:00.920]  He's not that guy, but he's vulnerable in this case because now he's acting in an administrative
[01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:06.600]  capacity and not in his elected capacity.
[01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:07.760]  So now he's vulnerable.
[01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:09.760]  Now you can go after him.
[01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:12.680]  And he doesn't have the protection of the prosecutor's office.
[01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:13.680]  Okay.
[01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:18.560]  So this is not the prosecutor, this is their own, you know, legal counsel.
[01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:25.280]  It probably is the prosecutor, but he's giving legal advice in an administrative capacity
[01:53:25.280 --> 01:53:28.920]  and he's not acting in a judicial capacity.
[01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:34.040]  When he's acting as a prosecutor before the court, he's protected.
[01:53:34.040 --> 01:53:37.400]  But when he's giving legal advice, he's not protected.
[01:53:37.400 --> 01:53:40.360]  You can sue him for that.
[01:53:40.360 --> 01:53:41.360]  Wow.
[01:53:41.360 --> 01:53:45.640]  And if he's advising the police to do things that are illegal...
[01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:50.040]  I've got a whole strategy that I've thought about for pursuing this and it's going to
[01:53:50.040 --> 01:53:53.920]  take quite a while to explain, so I won't go into it tonight.
[01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:57.800]  But I'd like to send you an email about this.
[01:53:57.800 --> 01:53:58.800]  Sure.
[01:53:58.800 --> 01:54:04.080]  And, well, it's a whole strategy, so it's going to take a little while to explain.
[01:54:04.080 --> 01:54:09.320]  Hopefully you have the time, but it might take you maybe half an hour to go through
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:10.320]  it.
[01:54:10.320 --> 01:54:11.320]  I don't know.
[01:54:11.320 --> 01:54:12.320]  Okay.
[01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:13.320]  Send me an email.
[01:54:13.320 --> 01:54:14.320]  Send Eddie one.
[01:54:14.320 --> 01:54:16.360]  He's more the traffic guy than me.
[01:54:16.360 --> 01:54:17.360]  Yeah.
[01:54:17.360 --> 01:54:21.720]  Well, this has nothing to do with commerce, though.
[01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:30.960]  See, in Virginia, I just focused on the first rule on the entire title, and that tells you
[01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:35.080]  where the conditions under which the rest of the title applies.
[01:54:35.080 --> 01:54:42.440]  It has nothing to do with commerce, okay, so it's a different situation here in Virginia.
[01:54:42.440 --> 01:54:46.760]  But anyway, I don't think we need to...
[01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:50.080]  My strategy has nothing to do with commerce, anyway.
[01:54:50.080 --> 01:54:55.880]  Okay, but I really like the idea of going after the attorneys.
[01:54:55.880 --> 01:55:00.880]  Attorneys and judges are the problem, because they're the ones that are giving... the attorneys
[01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:07.200]  are giving bad direction, the judges are upholding it.
[01:55:07.200 --> 01:55:13.520]  We force the judges to follow law, then they'll force everybody else to, and we start kicking
[01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:20.360]  these attorneys in their pants, they'll start being a whole lot more careful.
[01:55:20.360 --> 01:55:22.360]  I really like your approach.
[01:55:22.360 --> 01:55:26.800]  Okay, well, you haven't even heard it yet, but...
[01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:32.680]  Well, I mean, I like the approach of going after the attorney, the one who's giving them
[01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:37.640]  the bad advice, instead of going after the guy on the end who's just doing what he's
[01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:38.640]  told.
[01:55:38.640 --> 01:55:39.640]  Right.
[01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:51.560]  Yeah, well, I could have focused on the cop, but what I realized is that, well, doing that,
[01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:57.000]  I'm going to have so many people angry with me, because all the cops are doing the same
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.960]  thing across the whole country.
[01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:05.120]  It's more effective if you go for someone higher up.
[01:56:05.120 --> 01:56:06.120]  Right.
[01:56:06.120 --> 01:56:09.120]  Then you don't have the cops coming after you.
[01:56:09.120 --> 01:56:15.920]  I threatened my local police officer with petitioning for indictment for him to the
[01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:23.360]  grand jury if he went back to the school when the school called him and arrested a student
[01:56:23.360 --> 01:56:26.760]  for a discipline problem at the school.
[01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:31.840]  He was real concerned about it at first, but later he came by and thanked me.
[01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:39.880]  He said, I really hated doing that, but they called me out and I felt like I had to.
[01:56:39.880 --> 01:56:41.880]  I said, what do you feel now?
[01:56:41.880 --> 01:56:46.120]  I feel like I don't want you putting me in front of a grand jury.
[01:56:46.120 --> 01:56:49.080]  If they want the guy to get arrested, they can fill out the complaint.
[01:56:49.080 --> 01:56:51.840]  I'm not going to.
[01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:58.960]  It got the policeman out of a spot, and if you have attorneys directing the police to
[01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:04.400]  do things that are improper, most of the time the police don't want to.
[01:57:04.400 --> 01:57:05.720]  You give them an opportunity.
[01:57:05.720 --> 01:57:08.800]  I think most of the policemen are really good guys.
[01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:14.240]  They're stuck in a system they didn't create and they can't control, so it's our job.
[01:57:14.240 --> 01:57:17.760]  We go back and get the guys in control, especially those attorneys.
[01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:26.560]  I looked up one article on the Internet about legal counsel for the police.
[01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:31.680]  I think a lot of these cops have problems with their legal counsel, too.
[01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.080]  They don't like them.
[01:57:34.080 --> 01:57:35.880]  I'm betting they don't.
[01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:36.880]  We go after them.
[01:57:36.880 --> 01:57:41.000]  We're not going to make any enemies out of the police officer, especially if we don't
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:46.280]  blame the police officer for what he's doing, but we blame somebody else.
[01:57:46.280 --> 01:57:48.800]  I like the idea of the approach.
[01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:54.640]  We're running out of time, and I kind of want Eddie to go through the architects and engineers
[01:57:54.640 --> 01:57:57.640]  just one more time before we run out completely.
[01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:00.440]  All right, thanks.
[01:58:00.440 --> 01:58:03.440]  Thank you, Marcus.
[01:58:03.440 --> 01:58:05.440]  Eddie.
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[01:58:47.040 --> 01:58:48.520]  We're about out of time.
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[01:58:55.120 --> 01:58:56.120]  Monday.
[01:58:56.120 --> 01:59:25.760]  Thanks again, folks.