ROL_2010-02-12_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:10.900]  The Senate was sitting on 63 of President Obama's nominees when Obama warned Senate
[00:10.900 --> 00:15.820]  Minority Leader Mitch McConnell Tuesday he would be forced to make recess appointments
[00:15.820 --> 00:21.900]  if Republicans didn't stop their unprecedented logjam. The Senate finally confirmed 27 nominees
[00:21.900 --> 00:28.460]  Thursday. Arizona will no longer participate in a groundbreaking attempt to limit greenhouse
[00:28.460 --> 00:33.760]  gas emissions. State officials said the controversial emissions plan would slow the state's economic
[00:33.760 --> 00:39.960]  recovery. The state should focus less on regulations and more on renewable energy and investments
[00:39.960 --> 00:46.040]  by businesses that create green jobs. Muslim American groups are supporting a fatwa, a
[00:46.040 --> 00:51.800]  religious ruling that forbids Muslims from going through enhanced body scanners at airports.
[00:51.800 --> 01:01.560]  The Feet Council of North America says it would violate Islamic rules on modesty. In
[01:01.560 --> 01:07.320]  Uruguay, former dictator Juan Bordaberry was sentenced to 30 years in prison for violating
[01:07.320 --> 01:14.280]  the Constitution when he led a 1973 coup that began 12 years of dictatorship. The 81-year-old
[01:14.280 --> 01:20.160]  Bordaberry is the second former dictator sentenced to a long prison term in the past four months
[01:20.160 --> 01:27.960]  as the nation grapples with the 1973-85 dictatorship and its legacy of disappearances, torture,
[01:27.960 --> 01:33.920]  and the exile of thousands of dissidents. Last October, ex-strongman Gregorio Alvarez
[01:33.920 --> 01:40.440]  was sentenced to 25 years. Bordaberry also faces charges for 11 homicides and forced
[01:40.440 --> 01:47.380]  disappearances of dissidents. Elected in 1971, Bordaberry dissolved Congress and banned political
[01:47.380 --> 01:54.120]  parties the following year at the behest of military leaders who seized power in 1973.
[01:54.120 --> 01:59.880]  The military ousted Bordaberry in 1976, and Uruguay remained under the control of a right-wing
[01:59.880 --> 02:06.720]  dictatorship until 1985. He has been in preventative detention since 2006.
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[03:10.440 --> 03:32.880]  Bad boy, what you want, what you want, what you're gonna do? When the sun comes for you?
[03:32.880 --> 04:01.360]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you? Randy Kelton, Eddie
[04:01.360 --> 04:10.120]  Craig, Deborah Stevens, and tonight our very special guest Michael Badnerig, yay, one of
[04:10.120 --> 04:16.760]  my very best friends in the whole world. Alive and kicking. Alive and kicking, we are so
[04:16.760 --> 04:24.120]  happy, I can't wait to give you a big kiss. Back from the edge of the grave. Well, I look
[04:24.120 --> 04:29.280]  pretty good for a guy that was dead for ten minutes. Oh Michael, we are so happy to hear
[04:29.280 --> 04:34.080]  your voice, we are so glad. Michael Badnerig, one of my very best friends in the whole wide
[04:34.080 --> 04:39.840]  universe. He is back, he's on the air, he's on the radio. So Michael, tell us what's been
[04:39.840 --> 04:48.640]  happening. Well, mostly just recovering. Almost everybody knows the story. I was in Wisconsin
[04:48.640 --> 04:54.600]  giving a political speech and then on the way to lunch, I kind of passed out in the
[04:54.600 --> 05:02.000]  van. Fortunately, two people in the van knew CPR, they called 911, the ambulance came,
[05:02.000 --> 05:10.520]  the paramedics shocked my body, they used the defib paddles and my heart did not start.
[05:10.520 --> 05:16.320]  They got me to the hospital and the doctor tried a fourth time, got my heart started
[05:16.320 --> 05:24.480]  but not pumping really well and so they airlifted me by helicopter to Gundersen Lutheran Hospital
[05:24.480 --> 05:31.400]  in La Crosse, Wisconsin. I want your listeners to know it is the best hospital in the United
[05:31.400 --> 05:40.320]  States. They were technically superior, they were caring. Nobody ever said, that's not
[05:40.320 --> 05:48.840]  my job, I'll get somebody else. I have two priorities in my life. My first priority is
[05:48.840 --> 05:54.240]  to restore liberty in a constitutional republic. My second priority is to get rich so I can
[05:54.240 --> 06:02.880]  build another wing in that hospital. They really, really took good care of me. I've
[06:02.880 --> 06:08.600]  got lots of hospital bills. Anybody who wants to help me pay off Gundersen Lutheran, they
[06:08.600 --> 06:23.800]  can go to HeartsofLiberty.org. HeartsofLiberty.org? Yes. Yes, indeed. Folks out there, go to HeartsofLiberty.org
[06:23.800 --> 06:31.200]  and kick in some from Michael's hospital bills, reviving him back from the dead literally.
[06:31.200 --> 06:36.840]  Okay, I'm going to do it. I am going to do it. I've been talking all this time about
[06:36.840 --> 06:45.200]  how much is in my beer fund. Oh no. I'm going to donate that nickel to Michael. Oh, Randy.
[06:45.200 --> 06:54.320]  It's been in there for a couple of years, Michael. That's almost a full beer. Well,
[06:54.320 --> 07:04.680]  that was a full beer when you and I were young. Yeah, well that's true. I will donate to Michael's
[07:04.680 --> 07:13.800]  beer fund. I remember one time I gave a person the last five dollars I had in my pocket.
[07:13.800 --> 07:21.680]  Since I look back on that, I think I look back on that with more pride than anything
[07:21.680 --> 07:32.880]  I've ever done in my life. To look at someone who needed what I had and actually give someone
[07:32.880 --> 07:42.160]  the last five dollars in my pocket. I care enough about Michael that I'll take care of
[07:42.160 --> 07:47.440]  all that I have, you'll have. Well, you know, there's a parable in the Bible about the poor
[07:47.440 --> 07:56.400]  widow who tossed in barely a couple pennies into the offerings. The Lord said that truly
[07:56.400 --> 08:01.400]  I say to you, she has given more than all of these others combined because she has given
[08:01.400 --> 08:08.600]  all she had. Michael's important enough. Michael's too important. Michael deserves it. I want
[08:08.600 --> 08:17.840]  to thank everybody for all their prayers and support and just caring. I mean, I knew that
[08:17.840 --> 08:24.520]  I had friends out there. I just had no idea how many people were concerned. The good news
[08:24.520 --> 08:31.040]  from my point of view is that for years I have been telling people explicitly that if
[08:31.040 --> 08:38.520]  I die, liberty is no longer my problem. The idea should be obvious that everybody needs
[08:38.520 --> 08:44.560]  to get personally involved. And, you know, I wish it didn't require a heart attack on
[08:44.560 --> 08:51.800]  my part, but now everybody's going, wow, Michael's down. You know, we can't let liberty die.
[08:51.800 --> 08:58.200]  And so a lot of people have come to the sudden realization that they have to do something.
[08:58.200 --> 09:05.840]  They have to get involved. They have to attend the rallies. And so it's been, I mean, there's
[09:05.840 --> 09:11.160]  been a silver lining in this cloud. But I do want to reassure all of your listeners
[09:11.160 --> 09:17.840]  that I am back. I'm at 100%. I've recovered more quickly and more completely than any
[09:17.840 --> 09:24.600]  of my doctors imagined was possible. And I am eager to get back on the campaign trail.
[09:24.600 --> 09:33.320]  My first Constitution class will be March 6th up in Farmers Branch between, it's just
[09:33.320 --> 09:40.760]  northwest of Dallas. It's going to be at the AG Marketplace. And the only way to take the
[09:40.760 --> 09:50.000]  class is to pay two ounces of silver. So that will be my first class this year. And it is
[09:50.000 --> 09:57.000]  my personal goal to teach a class every weekend throughout the rest of the year. So my website
[09:57.000 --> 10:05.040]  is being redesigned. My website is constitutionpreservation.org. That will stay the same, but it will have
[10:05.040 --> 10:09.520]  a complete redesign. It's like, you know, these girls that go in for a makeover. My
[10:09.520 --> 10:16.000]  website is going to come out beautiful and terrific and maybe with a little bit of lipstick
[10:16.000 --> 10:22.800]  on. And it's going to make it a little bit easier for me to get the information out to
[10:22.800 --> 10:23.800]  people.
[10:23.800 --> 10:24.800]  That's awesome.
[10:24.800 --> 10:30.200]  It's kind of like you old guys like you and I who go in for a retread.
[10:30.200 --> 10:33.200]  Yeah. So.
[10:33.200 --> 10:36.200]  That's wonderful, Michael.
[10:36.200 --> 10:38.200]  Or is it retired?
[10:38.200 --> 10:47.900]  Well, it depends. I probably will never retire. I have just too much work to do. You know,
[10:47.900 --> 10:55.000]  if I'm lucky, if I'm lucky, we will restore liberty early enough that I could actually
[10:55.000 --> 11:03.920]  sit on a beach someplace and enjoy some of that liberty. But we'll see, we'll see.
[11:03.920 --> 11:04.920]  Not going to happen.
[11:04.920 --> 11:05.920]  Yeah, I don't know.
[11:05.920 --> 11:09.360]  You will never be able to sit and enjoy.
[11:09.360 --> 11:11.360]  You have to be able to.
[11:11.360 --> 11:12.360]  One of those people who have to.
[11:12.360 --> 11:18.240]  I don't know, Randy. You have to be able to sit and enjoy sometimes because if you don't,
[11:18.240 --> 11:24.200]  then you just get totally burned out. I know for sure. I mean, that's just the human nature.
[11:24.200 --> 11:29.640]  If all you do is work all the time, all the time, all the time for the cause of liberty,
[11:29.640 --> 11:34.560]  then you start to get bitter because you never get to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I mean,
[11:34.560 --> 11:38.760]  what is it worth, you know, to fight all the time and work all the time for liberty and
[11:38.760 --> 11:43.920]  you never even get to enjoy your own freedom? You have to take some time out and enjoy life
[11:43.920 --> 11:46.440]  once in a while. You just have to.
[11:46.440 --> 11:52.080]  Well, I am not bitter. But you don't have to take my word for it. You can taste me when
[11:52.080 --> 11:54.080]  I come down to office.
[11:54.080 --> 12:00.680]  Well, I know that I feel very justified in taking a day off once in a while.
[12:00.680 --> 12:04.160]  A day or two is nice.
[12:04.160 --> 12:05.160]  Yeah.
[12:05.160 --> 12:11.560]  But what I used years ago when I come back from Vietnam, I went to college for electrical
[12:11.560 --> 12:19.240]  engineering and got a job at Teletype, a huge, huge company. And I began reading their Teletype
[12:19.240 --> 12:26.600]  newspaper and I noticed someone that we knew had passed away. So I read the obituaries
[12:26.600 --> 12:33.960]  and I started reading the other obituaries and I was appalled. These people were, on
[12:33.960 --> 12:45.960]  the average, were retiring and two years later they died. And here I was, 23, 24, and it
[12:45.960 --> 12:48.000]  terrified me.
[12:48.000 --> 13:00.360]  Well, a lot of people die because they have lost a reason to live. But that is not a requirement.
[13:00.360 --> 13:06.600]  My dad has been retired for 20 years and based on that same information, my brothers and
[13:06.600 --> 13:12.000]  I were a little bit worried about him. We were planning to take turns each weekend taking
[13:12.000 --> 13:17.200]  him out fishing or taking him here and there. Well, my dad turned into a social butterfly.
[13:17.200 --> 13:22.360]  He's busier now than when he actually had a job.
[13:22.360 --> 13:30.480]  Every person I know who has survived retirement tells exactly the same story. And that's a
[13:30.480 --> 13:40.160]  nice segue into one of the greatest gifts my father ever gave me. And somebody may think
[13:40.160 --> 13:48.280]  this is a little racist, but I absolutely is not. My father, when I was 12, took me
[13:48.280 --> 13:55.440]  to see a man who fed a furnace for his room and board. He lived in the basement of a tenement
[13:55.440 --> 14:03.680]  building in Chicago. And this man related to me and my father his personal experience
[14:03.680 --> 14:12.320]  of the Civil War. This was 1967. He claimed to be a hundred and twelve.
[14:12.320 --> 14:13.320]  Wow.
[14:13.320 --> 14:19.160]  I did the math. He said he was five years old when the Civil War ended. And he told
[14:19.160 --> 14:29.320]  about the Union troops coming in and giving them candy bars and such. My father asked
[14:29.320 --> 14:38.720]  him, what do you reckon is the reason you managed to live so long? And he said, well,
[14:38.720 --> 14:47.800]  sir, I worked like a nigger ever day of my life. And with all due respect, this is not
[14:47.800 --> 14:58.520]  in any way racist. The science bears it out. Life was meant for enterprise, not for ease.
[14:58.520 --> 15:04.520]  And so, Michael, no rest for the wicked.
[15:04.520 --> 15:11.920]  I couldn't die. I still had liberty to establish. And a lot of people have come up with various
[15:11.920 --> 15:18.960]  reasons, you know, why they think I didn't die. And my favorite reason was that I refused
[15:18.960 --> 15:21.920]  to turn over my gun at St. Peter's gate.
[15:21.920 --> 15:31.200]  Well, you know, that reminds me of my grandfather, too, because he lived well into his nineties.
[15:31.200 --> 15:36.200]  And he said, he always told me, well, we asked him, grandpa, what keeps you going? He says,
[15:36.200 --> 15:41.480]  keeping on going is what keeps you going. However, he would take a day off here and
[15:41.480 --> 15:42.480]  there.
[15:42.480 --> 15:45.920]  Yeah, you have to take a day off every once in a while. Otherwise, you blow a gasket.
[15:45.920 --> 15:55.400]  Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I disagreed with Michael, the reason he didn't die. The reason
[15:55.400 --> 15:59.240]  he didn't die is he's just too ornery.
[15:59.240 --> 16:04.760]  Well, thank you for that. Michael will never die on his own. Somebody's going to have to
[16:04.760 --> 16:05.760]  kill him.
[16:05.760 --> 16:10.800]  I disagree. He's never been ornery to me, Randy, maybe to you. But you're a guy.
[16:10.800 --> 16:19.360]  What? What now? What? We're getting some feedback. We're getting some feedback.
[16:19.360 --> 16:22.760]  Yeah, we were able to pick up extraterrestrial radio.
[16:22.760 --> 16:29.480]  Michael, I think we got some feedback going on.
[16:29.480 --> 16:39.880]  Hold on. Hold on. We got to go to break here. We got feedback coming from Michael's extraterrestrial
[16:39.880 --> 16:46.880]  channel here. We'll be back on the other side.
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[18:28.000 --> 18:35.000]  All right, justice is the goal. One of our goals in life is to make sure that people
[18:58.000 --> 19:05.000]  are aware of the importance of the word, and that is to make sure that people are aware
[19:05.000 --> 19:32.000]  of the importance of the word, and that is to make sure that people are aware of the
[19:32.000 --> 19:44.000]  importance of the word, and that is to make sure that people are aware of the importance
[19:44.000 --> 19:55.000]  of the word, and that is to make sure that people are aware of the importance of the
[19:55.000 --> 20:01.640]  prisoners, I'll put out her address here for those of you who would like to write to her
[20:01.640 --> 20:08.480]  and she surely would appreciate the mail because she's in solitary confinement right now.
[20:08.480 --> 20:26.200]  If you would write to Sherry Jackson and it says 59085019 FCI, that's on one line and
[20:26.200 --> 20:38.720]  then the next line is FCI Tallahassee 5HU and then the next line 501 capital circle,
[20:38.720 --> 20:43.680]  now I can't even see the NS I believe, don't quote me on this, I'm going to have to look
[20:43.680 --> 20:48.600]  this up again, I can't read her handwriting here and then Tallahassee Florida, oh it's
[20:48.600 --> 21:00.400]  northeast NE, that's what it is, 501 capital circle NE, Tallahassee Florida 30301, that's
[21:00.400 --> 21:02.680]  what it looks like the zip code is.
[21:02.680 --> 21:08.760]  So here's the letter, it says hi Jerry and Debra, this is dated February 6th, thanks for
[21:08.760 --> 21:15.800]  your encouraging letter, I see that you found out that I was shipped from the prison camp
[21:15.800 --> 21:25.880]  to a quote real prison because the BOP got angry about my letter to the congressman.
[21:25.880 --> 21:34.160]  I am in solitary confinement in a cell alone 24-7, that's fine with me because I am in
[21:34.160 --> 21:40.360]  one on one training with the Lord for further public ministry, yes I do remember you Debra
[21:40.360 --> 21:46.880]  from that small town in Pennsylvania, Quince had a group up there and I had a great time,
[21:46.880 --> 21:53.560]  tell Randy I said hi, my thyroid is fine now and I am totally off the meds, I have a bible
[21:53.560 --> 21:59.880]  and a radio so I get to keep up with ministry, world events and I pray all the time, please
[21:59.880 --> 22:06.000]  pray for my immediate release from prison Sherry, so isn't that sweet, she's gotten
[22:06.000 --> 22:13.280]  over her thyroid problems, she doesn't need the meds anymore and she's apparently fine
[22:13.280 --> 22:18.720]  she says to be in solitary confinement, I think I probably wouldn't mind it either better
[22:18.720 --> 22:23.180]  than being harassed by a bunch of other people in a situation like that but she still needs
[22:23.180 --> 22:28.560]  our prayers for immediate release because it just can't be that good of a situation
[22:28.560 --> 22:35.000]  so that's a letter from our friend Sherry, so what do you think Michael?
[22:35.000 --> 22:40.560]  Well I wish there were more we can do that your listeners can really make Sherry's life
[22:40.560 --> 22:47.880]  better by using the address and writing her a letter, that may sound really simple but
[22:47.880 --> 22:55.640]  I've spent 24 hours in jail because of my driver's license thing and 24 hours seemed
[22:55.640 --> 23:01.880]  like forever so you know when you've been in for months and years getting a letter from
[23:01.880 --> 23:09.960]  somebody can really, really make your day so all of you need to be very joyful that
[23:09.960 --> 23:16.360]  you are not in Sherry's position and take a couple of minutes out of your time to let
[23:16.360 --> 23:21.360]  her know that you appreciate her political stand.
[23:21.360 --> 23:25.720]  Absolutely and it also lets the jailers know that people are watching what's going on so
[23:25.720 --> 23:31.720]  they won't mistreat her and I fully believe that is because of radio shows like this and
[23:31.720 --> 23:38.800]  blogs and articles and Alex Jones spreading the word and people like us telling people
[23:38.800 --> 23:44.820]  to call the jail, write to Sherry, they see that somebody is watching over her shoulder,
[23:44.820 --> 23:50.240]  she probably would have died in that prison camp as she called it where she was if we
[23:50.240 --> 23:56.200]  had not raised such a big stink about them not giving her medical treatment so definitely
[23:56.200 --> 24:04.040]  it can be a life saving action not just to raise someone morals but yes sending the letters
[24:04.040 --> 24:11.120]  is going to help her a lot because she still has I think two and a half years of a four
[24:11.120 --> 24:15.600]  year prison sentence to serve unless we can get her out sooner.
[24:15.600 --> 24:23.160]  Yes and let me suggest put a mark on your calendar for one day each month and just sit
[24:23.160 --> 24:29.440]  down and write a short note and send it to her, take five minutes of your life and you
[24:29.440 --> 24:37.080]  have no idea how much difference that's going to make to someone who's totally isolated.
[24:37.080 --> 24:43.400]  When you feel like you're all alone and you're out there all by yourself sometimes it gets
[24:43.400 --> 24:51.320]  extremely hard and only a minor nudge from someone saying yes we appreciate you makes
[24:51.320 --> 24:53.520]  a tremendous difference.
[24:53.520 --> 24:57.280]  Indeed, indeed it does.
[24:57.280 --> 24:58.280]  So Michael.
[24:58.280 --> 25:02.360]  And write hate mail to the warden.
[25:02.360 --> 25:06.520]  Not too hateful, I'll also take it out on her.
[25:06.520 --> 25:12.120]  So Michael you're back in the swing of things, you're back on the liberty trail, you've
[25:12.120 --> 25:19.040]  got your constitution class scheduled for March 6th, do you have any other classes scheduled
[25:19.040 --> 25:20.040]  after this?
[25:20.040 --> 25:27.640]  No I'm making phone calls, I've got several tentatively planned, I need to have the organizers
[25:27.640 --> 25:34.520]  in those towns get back to me to confirm but the easiest way for people to find out where
[25:34.520 --> 25:42.880]  I will be teaching will simply be to visit my website in about a week, as I said it's
[25:42.880 --> 25:52.040]  being redesigned and will be new and improved here in about seven days.
[25:52.040 --> 25:54.360]  That's wonderful.
[25:54.360 --> 25:58.080]  So how has the reception been since you got out of the hospital?
[25:58.080 --> 26:03.280]  Have you been getting flooded with flowers and mail and everything else?
[26:03.280 --> 26:10.080]  Oh they haven't been flooded with flowers but I do get phone calls on a really regular
[26:10.080 --> 26:20.120]  basis asking me to bring my class to their town and I'm happy to do it.
[26:20.120 --> 26:23.840]  That's wonderful, that's wonderful.
[26:23.840 --> 26:27.880]  Well I was going to update you Michael, I don't know if you heard the show last night
[26:27.880 --> 26:35.120]  or not but we're thick in the battle against the FCC, I've got four lawsuits going against
[26:35.120 --> 26:41.680]  them right now, one where there's co-plaintiffs I'm involved with and then there's three other
[26:41.680 --> 26:48.480]  cases that I'm helping out with against the FCC to help overturn some of these forfeitures
[26:48.480 --> 26:56.200]  and three of the cases are in front of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals right now,
[26:56.200 --> 27:00.500]  one of them is in front of the, well I'm sorry two of them are in front of the Fifth Circuit
[27:00.500 --> 27:05.000]  Court of Appeals and two of them are in the district court, the federal district court
[27:05.000 --> 27:12.480]  here in Austin and we are going toe to toe against the FCC right now and we're whoop
[27:12.480 --> 27:16.580]  whopping them big time, it looked like we were going to get default judgment on one
[27:16.580 --> 27:22.300]  of them but then they put in an appearance late I might add so we still could possibly
[27:22.300 --> 27:27.000]  get the default judgment but probably not but I've got all the arguments laid out, I'm
[27:27.000 --> 27:33.400]  ready to stand up pro se and argue these arguments in front of the Supreme Court if I have to,
[27:33.400 --> 27:38.960]  we may need to move for joiners so that I'll be able to do that but better than that I
[27:38.960 --> 27:45.600]  helped Representative Charles Key from Oklahoma write a bill to kick the FCC out of Oklahoma
[27:45.600 --> 27:53.840]  altogether regarding intrastate broadcasting and low power FM's and just on this past Wednesday
[27:53.840 --> 28:03.940]  the bill sailed through committee and was unanimously approved 11 to 0 and it's about
[28:03.940 --> 28:10.800]  to hit the House floor for debate this next week upcoming, this very next week so we need
[28:10.800 --> 28:17.600]  folks to contact their legislators in Oklahoma, their House reps if you live in Oklahoma and
[28:17.600 --> 28:26.440]  tell them to support HB 2812 the Communications Freedom Act which would basically make it
[28:26.440 --> 28:33.120]  a felony for any FCC agent to come in and illegally try to shut down any low power FM's
[28:33.120 --> 28:40.720]  in the state of Oklahoma that are just broadcasting intrastate only so we need everyone's support
[28:40.720 --> 28:44.400]  on that so what do you think Michael, we're doing it, we're doing it.
[28:44.400 --> 28:52.160]  I think that all of these efforts for liberty are wonderful, I mean one of the reasons that
[28:52.160 --> 28:58.520]  I love you and Randy is because you guys do such a great job of rattling the government's
[28:58.520 --> 29:07.160]  cage and I went up to Williamson County with you guys and watched it all happen live right
[29:07.160 --> 29:17.840]  there so yeah, I want everybody to be optimistic, we are making a difference, we've got Tea
[29:17.840 --> 29:25.240]  Party rallies, 9-12 rallies, Campaign for Liberty rallies, you know all these different
[29:25.240 --> 29:32.440]  patriot groups supporting the Second Amendment, supporting getting rid of the IRS, the American
[29:32.440 --> 29:43.040]  people are not happy, we had over a million people gather in Washington last year and
[29:43.040 --> 29:50.880]  that momentum is building so now is not the time to be depressed or disappointed or you
[29:50.880 --> 29:55.880]  know because we are moving forward, it's just getting, now I don't know what's going to
[29:55.880 --> 29:56.880]  happen.
[29:56.880 --> 30:00.560]  Hold on we're going to break, we're just getting started, we'll be right back.
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[30:57.880 --> 31:25.400]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm going to solve them, to the government them, prosecute them,
[31:25.400 --> 31:54.960]  I need a prosecutor to come and help me, prosecute them wicked leader, that's why I have a warrant
[31:54.960 --> 32:00.860]  All right, citizens arrest.
[32:00.860 --> 32:05.660]  We have a warrant for Dick Cheney for all these guys.
[32:05.660 --> 32:10.740]  They think they're wise, but they tell lies.
[32:10.740 --> 32:16.340]  And citizens arrest are illegal in Texas in certain circumstances, so we are not purporting
[32:16.340 --> 32:20.160]  anything that would be contrary to the rule of law.
[32:20.160 --> 32:24.860]  And we are here with Mr. Michael Badner, callers if you'd like to call in and speak to Michael
[32:24.860 --> 32:25.860]  Badner.
[32:25.860 --> 32:26.860]  What a treat.
[32:26.860 --> 32:27.860]  512-646-1984.
[32:27.860 --> 32:32.760]  All right, Michael, so you were saying, you don't know where all this is headed, but it's
[32:32.760 --> 32:33.760]  the time for hope and being encouraged.
[32:33.760 --> 32:38.040]  Well, we were talking about what the situation was, and I was recommending that people not
[32:38.040 --> 32:39.600]  be pessimistic.
[32:39.600 --> 32:44.320]  We've got all these patriot groups coming together, and I don't know what will happen.
[32:44.320 --> 32:47.400]  I mean, the government can do all sorts of things.
[32:47.400 --> 32:53.200]  They could declare martial law, but it may get nasty.
[32:53.200 --> 32:56.040]  But we are going to restore liberty.
[32:56.040 --> 33:02.960]  I mean, there's too much momentum, and, you know, we just need to continue working together
[33:02.960 --> 33:05.960]  and make it happen.
[33:05.960 --> 33:07.960]  Absolutely.
[33:07.960 --> 33:10.360]  Absolutely.
[33:10.360 --> 33:11.360]  We're making it happen.
[33:11.360 --> 33:17.040]  I mean, we hear the stories from our callers all the time that are following the tactics,
[33:17.040 --> 33:21.960]  following the techniques that we talk about, and they're whoop-wopping on the court system,
[33:21.960 --> 33:26.320]  whoop-wopping on the judges and the prosecutors and everything else.
[33:26.320 --> 33:29.960]  We are at a special time.
[33:29.960 --> 33:36.240]  We are at a point in history where we're needed.
[33:36.240 --> 33:38.840]  I'm 60 years old.
[33:38.840 --> 33:47.040]  I spent my whole life having no idea what the heck I was doing here, and for all of
[33:47.040 --> 33:58.760]  the time I've been on the radio, I have received not one cent in return directly from the radio.
[33:58.760 --> 34:09.840]  However, it has become clear that that's why I'm here on the planet, and I suspect that
[34:09.840 --> 34:17.000]  a good portion of the people out there listening to this radio broadcast are listening to this
[34:17.000 --> 34:23.560]  radio broadcast because that's why they're here on the planet, and there's nothing more
[34:23.560 --> 34:29.560]  comforting than to know what the heck you're doing here.
[34:29.560 --> 34:37.240]  I envy Michael because he knows what he's doing here, and finally, after 60 years of
[34:37.240 --> 34:40.000]  life, I finally know what I'm doing here.
[34:40.000 --> 34:47.520]  We are at a point in history where this pendulum of justice has swung off to the right so far
[34:47.520 --> 34:56.000]  that it just can't go any further, and now the momentum has stopped, and the forces of
[34:56.000 --> 35:05.120]  what's right is pulling it back, so this is the time to be here.
[35:05.120 --> 35:06.440]  Is that my feedback?
[35:06.440 --> 35:08.080]  I think it's feeding back to Michael's.
[35:08.080 --> 35:10.160]  You may need to back off from your mic, Randy.
[35:10.160 --> 35:11.160]  Okay.
[35:11.160 --> 35:12.160]  How's that?
[35:12.160 --> 35:13.160]  Okay.
[35:13.160 --> 35:14.160]  All right.
[35:14.160 --> 35:15.160]  Let's take some callers.
[35:15.160 --> 35:16.160]  Let's take some callers.
[35:16.160 --> 35:20.840]  We've got Tim from Texas on the line that may want to ask Michael something.
[35:20.840 --> 35:22.520]  Tim, thanks for calling in.
[35:22.520 --> 35:23.520]  What's on your mind tonight?
[35:23.520 --> 35:26.320]  Will you have a question for Michael Batnarek?
[35:26.320 --> 35:27.880]  Yes, absolutely.
[35:27.880 --> 35:31.680]  Michael, just glad to hear that you're recovering well.
[35:31.680 --> 35:36.360]  We've been thinking about you all the time, and good to hear your voice on the radio again.
[35:36.360 --> 35:42.280]  Thank you.
[35:42.280 --> 35:47.240]  The upcoming Constitution class in Farmer's Branch, did I hear you right?
[35:47.240 --> 35:49.880]  You said just two pieces of silver for that class?
[35:49.880 --> 35:50.880]  Yeah.
[35:50.880 --> 35:56.520]  Normally, my class is $100 or three ounces of silver.
[35:56.520 --> 36:05.400]  My friend Rob Gray has the AG Marketplace, and they deal only in silver, and so I'm going
[36:05.400 --> 36:10.520]  to be teaching my class there on a regular basis.
[36:10.520 --> 36:16.480]  In order to bring people to the store, I'm giving an additional discount.
[36:16.480 --> 36:25.880]  You can get two ounces of silver really, really cheap, and so you may have to travel a little
[36:25.880 --> 36:30.960]  bit to get there, but this is about the cheapest way to take my class.
[36:30.960 --> 36:31.960]  Michael?
[36:31.960 --> 36:37.040]  Actually, because I wanted to get to your class, and when you took Yale, I was kind
[36:37.040 --> 36:40.400]  of disappointed because I wasn't sure if I would get the opportunity again, but I'm thinking
[36:40.400 --> 36:41.400]  about bringing my whole family.
[36:41.400 --> 36:44.400]  I hope you got a big place reserved.
[36:44.400 --> 36:52.040]  Michael, if they have these green pieces of paper, is there a place that they can exchange
[36:52.040 --> 36:53.640]  them for real money?
[36:53.640 --> 36:58.520]  Yeah, you can do that at the AG Marketplace.
[36:58.520 --> 37:11.200]  You can also go to opencurrency.com, and basically, that's their website, and well, you can get
[37:11.200 --> 37:15.400]  ounces of silver just about anywhere.
[37:15.400 --> 37:20.240]  It's got to be.999 fine.
[37:20.240 --> 37:24.040]  It's got to be what they refer to as pure silver.
[37:24.040 --> 37:26.240]  Or like called silver rounds?
[37:26.240 --> 37:27.240]  Yeah.
[37:27.240 --> 37:29.920]  Liberty dollars will work.
[37:29.920 --> 37:30.920]  Great.
[37:30.920 --> 37:36.080]  Well, listen, Mike, I don't want to have to let you guys get on to your talk, but I just
[37:36.080 --> 37:40.920]  want to say we're really glad to hear you back on the radio, and we're rounding up support
[37:40.920 --> 37:47.120]  for the Constitutional Convention of the Continental Congress that you're involved in, and we're
[37:47.120 --> 37:50.480]  watching the advertisements going on and reading the Articles of Freedom and everything.
[37:50.480 --> 37:54.840]  So you've been a tremendous inspiration to me personally, and I look forward to seeing
[37:54.840 --> 37:55.840]  you up there.
[37:55.840 --> 37:56.840]  Wow.
[37:56.840 --> 37:57.840]  Okay.
[37:57.840 --> 37:58.840]  Well, thank you.
[37:58.840 --> 37:59.840]  I appreciate it.
[37:59.840 --> 38:03.280]  Just continue lighting the fires of liberty in your own social circle.
[38:03.280 --> 38:04.280]  We are.
[38:04.280 --> 38:05.280]  We're doing it hard.
[38:05.280 --> 38:06.280]  Thank you, and then good night.
[38:06.280 --> 38:07.280]  Thank you.
[38:07.280 --> 38:08.280]  Thank you, Tim.
[38:08.280 --> 38:12.620]  I would like to make a little notice.
[38:12.620 --> 38:17.680]  I don't know if Michael notices it, but I noticed a change in his voice, and for those
[38:17.680 --> 38:23.240]  of you who hear his voice is somewhat different, it's not because he's weak or frail or anything
[38:23.240 --> 38:28.600]  like that, they put in a trach, and until that heals, his voice is a little bit shallower
[38:28.600 --> 38:34.100]  than that normal booming base that it normally is.
[38:34.100 --> 38:38.880]  But for all of those who are listening that may be concerned, that'll be okay in a while.
[38:38.880 --> 38:39.880]  That'll come back.
[38:39.880 --> 38:44.040]  Yes, and you really are an inspiration to us too, Michael.
[38:44.040 --> 38:46.760]  As Randy was saying, he's never received a dime from the radio.
[38:46.760 --> 38:52.080]  I've never received a dime from the radio, and contrary to a lot of vicious rumors out
[38:52.080 --> 38:58.480]  there, I do not charge the host for shows, to do a show on this network.
[38:58.480 --> 39:05.120]  I don't even have any sponsors, but one sponsor, I've got HempUSA that pays me a whopping 100
[39:05.120 --> 39:11.280]  bucks a month, and I get a little bit of commission off of Jurisdictionary and the Mike Mears package
[39:11.280 --> 39:17.640]  and the seminar, but for the most part, I have spent over $20,000 of my own money on
[39:17.640 --> 39:22.360]  the equipment for this network and quitting my job and all the bills that have to be paid
[39:22.360 --> 39:26.320]  for all the infrastructure and everything else, and I do it gladly.
[39:26.320 --> 39:27.320]  I do it willingly.
[39:27.320 --> 39:31.960]  It would be nice if I had some sponsors, but I do have to set the record straight out there
[39:31.960 --> 39:36.240]  because there are some vicious lies and rumors going on out there that I charge the host,
[39:36.240 --> 39:37.920]  which is absolutely not true.
[39:37.920 --> 39:44.920]  Deborah would have to receive probably a couple hundred grand before she received a dime,
[39:44.920 --> 39:48.640]  but that would what it would take to come up to zero.
[39:48.640 --> 39:49.640]  Absolutely.
[39:49.640 --> 39:50.640]  It's worth it.
[39:50.640 --> 39:53.080]  So at any rate, we have another caller on the line.
[39:53.080 --> 39:54.880]  We've got Kevin from Texas.
[39:54.880 --> 39:56.840]  Kevin, thanks for calling in.
[39:56.840 --> 39:58.560]  Do you have a question for Michael Bannerich?
[39:58.560 --> 39:59.560]  No, not a question.
[39:59.560 --> 40:00.560]  It was the same with me.
[40:00.560 --> 40:01.560]  Good to hear his voice again.
[40:01.560 --> 40:02.560]  I like your new deep voice, Michael.
[40:02.560 --> 40:03.560]  Are you in Texas with us right now?
[40:03.560 --> 40:04.560]  I am in Texas.
[40:04.560 --> 40:05.560]  I'm back home in the Dallas area where I belong.
[40:05.560 --> 40:06.560]  Let me tell you, I was starting to get a little nervous.
[40:06.560 --> 40:30.000]  I'm smiling so hard, I'm going to have to turn my head sideways just to get through
[40:30.000 --> 40:31.000]  the door.
[40:31.000 --> 40:36.800]  Well, listen, I'm on my way into this little Deborah Medina event here in Austin tonight.
[40:36.800 --> 40:42.640]  I'm living out in the country now again and just listen on the radio and urge on, Michael.
[40:42.640 --> 40:47.000]  I've continued recovery, my friend, and I look forward to seeing you again real soon.
[40:47.000 --> 40:50.480]  Give us a heads up when you're going to be back down here in Austin, okay?
[40:50.480 --> 40:51.480]  I sure will.
[40:51.480 --> 40:56.760]  When you get back in there, tell Deborah that we want her on our radio show.
[40:56.760 --> 40:58.760]  All right.
[40:58.760 --> 41:00.760]  He dropped off the line.
[41:00.760 --> 41:02.240]  I don't think Deborah's there.
[41:02.240 --> 41:07.120]  It's the grand opening of the Deborah Medina headquarters and I do have the phone number
[41:07.120 --> 41:13.800]  for her media relations person, so I can give her a call.
[41:13.800 --> 41:19.560]  Her media relations volunteer to set up an interview, but Deborah Medina is not at the
[41:19.560 --> 41:20.720]  headquarters right now.
[41:20.720 --> 41:23.400]  They're just having the grand opening.
[41:23.400 --> 41:32.040]  So yes, we are taking it to the man and so is Eddie Craig with his traffic seminar materials.
[41:32.040 --> 41:38.720]  Eddie Craig is the one who's basically combed through all the law, the traffic code in Texas,
[41:38.720 --> 41:44.120]  Texas transportation code and found out that really all these traffic laws only apply to
[41:44.120 --> 41:48.440]  people who are engaged in commerce on the roadways.
[41:48.440 --> 41:51.640]  They do not apply to travelers, private travelers at all.
[41:51.640 --> 41:52.640]  All right.
[41:52.640 --> 41:53.640]  We're going to call it on the line.
[41:53.640 --> 41:54.640]  We've got Greg from Texas.
[41:54.640 --> 41:55.640]  Greg, thanks for calling in.
[41:55.640 --> 41:58.640]  What is your question for Michael Badneric?
[41:58.640 --> 41:59.640]  What?
[41:59.640 --> 42:03.520]  Yes, Greg, what is your question for Michael Badneric?
[42:03.520 --> 42:06.280]  Oh, it's not a question.
[42:06.280 --> 42:09.640]  It's just a grateful shout out to all you guys.
[42:09.640 --> 42:11.040]  Oh, thank you.
[42:11.040 --> 42:17.720]  And how great you people are and I can't believe that I actually got on the line that quick
[42:17.720 --> 42:24.160]  because all I want to do, Deborah, is to thank you for what you're doing.
[42:24.160 --> 42:35.800]  And the question out is, my God, how do we reverse these incredible possibilities?
[42:35.800 --> 42:36.800]  How do we what now?
[42:36.800 --> 42:42.320]  Reverse these incredible possibilities of infractions of the right.
[42:42.320 --> 42:45.280]  We stand up, speak loudly.
[42:45.280 --> 42:46.280]  Yeah.
[42:46.280 --> 42:56.120]  File criminal charges, file lawsuits, petition to your legislators, you know, things like
[42:56.120 --> 42:57.120]  that.
[42:57.120 --> 42:59.280]  Send, you know, there's lots of things that people can do.
[42:59.280 --> 43:00.280]  There is.
[43:00.280 --> 43:05.640]  And I'm just a guitar player trying to survive and I try and get out there in Austin, Texas
[43:05.640 --> 43:07.360]  and make people happy.
[43:07.360 --> 43:12.560]  And this stuff, it frustrates me so bad, but it shouldn't.
[43:12.560 --> 43:16.560]  But I try and keep, you know, stay optimistic.
[43:16.560 --> 43:19.920]  Well, Greg, write a song that's liberty minded.
[43:19.920 --> 43:27.960]  Listen, Jerry, Jerry, my husband, Jerry and I, we woke up probably over 10,000 reggae
[43:27.960 --> 43:34.040]  heads that didn't know anything about 9-Eleven Truth with our song Ten Second Freefall.
[43:34.040 --> 43:37.440]  And now the whole reggae community knows that 9-Eleven was an inside job.
[43:37.440 --> 43:40.680]  So you can do a lot through your music, my friend.
[43:40.680 --> 43:42.680]  Yeah, you can.
[43:42.680 --> 43:47.440]  And out of the doubt, the superiors, therefore you may be confounded.
[43:47.440 --> 43:50.720]  I don't know what to say about it, but thank you for answering my call.
[43:50.720 --> 43:51.720]  All right.
[43:51.720 --> 43:52.720]  Thanks, Greg.
[43:52.720 --> 43:53.720]  All right.
[43:53.720 --> 44:00.320]  We'll be right back on the other side with our very good friend, Michael Baden-Erik.
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[44:58.680 --> 44:59.680]  collectors now.
[44:59.680 --> 45:23.560]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah.
[45:23.560 --> 45:30.660]  Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[45:30.660 --> 45:36.000]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[45:36.000 --> 45:40.100]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[45:40.100 --> 45:46.080]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[45:46.080 --> 45:51.080]  Give my message out to anyone who's out in the distance
[45:51.080 --> 45:57.080]  To vote for bravery and against slavery to show resistance
[45:57.080 --> 46:02.080]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting
[46:02.080 --> 46:06.080]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons
[46:06.080 --> 46:08.080]  Alright, we're making our living pushing buttons
[46:08.080 --> 46:12.080]  Behind the scenes, getting the word out
[46:12.080 --> 46:16.080]  I'm dedicating this song to my good, very good friend
[46:16.080 --> 46:19.080]  My very good friend, Wayout Wes
[46:19.080 --> 46:21.080]  Pushing the buttons behind the scenes
[46:21.080 --> 46:23.080]  I know he doesn't like me to call it his name, but I am anyway
[46:23.080 --> 46:25.080]  We love you, Wes
[46:25.080 --> 46:27.080]  And this one's for you, that song's for you
[46:27.080 --> 46:29.080]  Pushing the buttons behind the scenes, making it happen
[46:29.080 --> 46:32.080]  Getting the word of liberty out on the air
[46:32.080 --> 46:34.080]  And we've got Michael, we've got 15...
[46:34.080 --> 46:36.080]  I have never spoken about Wes on the air
[46:36.080 --> 46:40.080]  I need to give him my endorsement
[46:40.080 --> 46:43.080]  Of all of the geeks on the planet
[46:43.080 --> 46:47.080]  He is absolutely the geek of all geeks
[46:47.080 --> 46:50.080]  He's my best friend in the whole world
[46:50.080 --> 46:54.080]  Besides Michael and Randy and Eddie and of course my husband
[46:54.080 --> 46:56.080]  He's my best friend in the whole world, Wayout Wes
[46:56.080 --> 46:58.080]  Okay, we're going to take your calls
[46:58.080 --> 47:00.080]  We only have 15 more minutes with Michael
[47:00.080 --> 47:02.080]  Actually 12, so if you want to call in
[47:02.080 --> 47:06.080]  And speak with Michael Badnerich on the air
[47:06.080 --> 47:08.080]  You have 12 minutes to do so
[47:08.080 --> 47:10.080]  We're going to go now to Meta in Texas
[47:10.080 --> 47:11.080]  Meta, thanks for calling in
[47:11.080 --> 47:14.080]  What is your question or comment for our good friend Michael?
[47:14.080 --> 47:16.080]  Hi Michael
[47:16.080 --> 47:18.080]  Hi sweetheart, how are you?
[47:18.080 --> 47:25.080]  You know today I read where they side swiped Medina on 9-11 issue
[47:25.080 --> 47:28.080]  And all I could think about was out walking my dogs
[47:28.080 --> 47:31.080]  Because I myself was having a bad time
[47:31.080 --> 47:35.080]  And all I could think about was your show
[47:35.080 --> 47:38.080]  And how you every week were bringing on
[47:38.080 --> 47:43.080]  Talking about 9-11, the money trail and everything
[47:43.080 --> 47:47.080]  And I thought boy if they would just bring that out
[47:47.080 --> 47:52.080]  Right, well you know people are getting the information little by little
[47:52.080 --> 47:57.080]  It takes some people longer to learn the information
[47:57.080 --> 48:01.080]  We just need to be patient
[48:01.080 --> 48:06.080]  I'm glad she said what she said because she didn't say I'm a 9-11 truth or all
[48:06.080 --> 48:10.080]  She said that there's information out there still that needs to be looked at
[48:10.080 --> 48:12.080]  That we don't know everything and that's true
[48:12.080 --> 48:15.080]  But there's an old saying
[48:15.080 --> 48:19.080]  That teachers come at the end of the time
[48:19.080 --> 48:21.080]  And the teachers come at the beginning of the time
[48:21.080 --> 48:24.080]  And I think that's why you and Randy and Deborah are here
[48:24.080 --> 48:27.080]  You're our teachers
[48:27.080 --> 48:31.080]  Well I'm doing my best
[48:31.080 --> 48:34.080]  Okay well I'm getting Dan off this tower because I'm cold
[48:34.080 --> 48:37.080]  Oh Metta, Metta is up on a water tower
[48:37.080 --> 48:40.080]  She's up on a huge very tall water tower
[48:40.080 --> 48:43.080]  To call into the shows on almost a nightly basis
[48:43.080 --> 48:45.080]  We appreciate you Metta
[48:45.080 --> 48:49.080]  Okay we're going now to Dan in Connecticut, Dan Reel
[48:49.080 --> 48:50.080]  Dan thanks for calling in
[48:50.080 --> 48:53.080]  What's your question or comment for our good friend Michael Ben-Erik?
[48:53.080 --> 49:00.080]  Oh nothing much, I'm just so glad to hear the voice behind fueling the fires of liberty
[49:00.080 --> 49:05.080]  I'm going to call it that because that's what it is and that is how it worked
[49:05.080 --> 49:09.080]  Well I'm here and I'm back with a vengeance
[49:09.080 --> 49:13.080]  The bad guys better be careful
[49:13.080 --> 49:20.080]  Every day I wake up and open my eyes is a bad day for the government
[49:20.080 --> 49:22.080]  Hear, hear
[49:22.080 --> 49:27.080]  Yeah well let's just say it's factored by a factor of four
[49:27.080 --> 49:30.080]  Now that you've started waking up the right people
[49:30.080 --> 49:35.080]  I remember Randy and I were talking about what had happened to you off the air
[49:35.080 --> 49:39.080]  And we were thinking boy those are some really big shoes to fill
[49:39.080 --> 49:45.080]  But at the same time I guess I just wanted to briefly go through your personal influence in my life
[49:45.080 --> 49:48.080]  And I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you
[49:48.080 --> 49:56.080]  If it weren't for you I wouldn't have even known that the rule of law existed
[49:56.080 --> 49:59.080]  And I wouldn't have learned anything that I know now from them
[49:59.080 --> 50:04.080]  And I wouldn't of course have been making the kind of waves I am up here in Connecticut
[50:04.080 --> 50:07.080]  So I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for that
[50:07.080 --> 50:12.080]  Well my pleasure, that's what lighting the fires of liberty is all about
[50:12.080 --> 50:15.080]  I can't talk to 300 million Americans
[50:15.080 --> 50:20.080]  But all the students that come out of my class, they've got family and friends and coworkers
[50:20.080 --> 50:23.080]  And they can tell two friends and so on and so on
[50:23.080 --> 50:27.080]  And that's how we are spreading the word
[50:27.080 --> 50:33.080]  So you know it's not just my job, it's everybody's responsibility
[50:33.080 --> 50:37.080]  And I think that we're getting to a turning point
[50:37.080 --> 50:41.080]  We really are, especially in places like where I am
[50:41.080 --> 50:47.080]  I mean you've really created the kind of situation where it's not just talking to one or two people
[50:47.080 --> 50:51.080]  I mean it's talking to several thousand at a time now
[50:51.080 --> 50:52.080]  Yeah
[50:52.080 --> 50:58.080]  And I do plan on calling you on doing that Constitution class in the Little Pink House at some point
[50:58.080 --> 51:02.080]  Right
[51:02.080 --> 51:05.080]  Where is this class?
[51:05.080 --> 51:08.080]  The Little Pink House, Sue, is that Kelo?
[51:08.080 --> 51:11.080]  Oh yes, I love that idea
[51:11.080 --> 51:14.080]  Give me a call
[51:14.080 --> 51:17.080]  That's Kelo's house
[51:17.080 --> 51:21.080]  Yeah, and if there was time and if you'd be so inclined
[51:21.080 --> 51:25.080]  I would be honored if you would fire my new British 303 rifle that I'm getting
[51:25.080 --> 51:27.080]  Huh?
[51:27.080 --> 51:30.080]  Okay, twist my arm, what time can I be there?
[51:30.080 --> 51:33.080]  Say what?
[51:33.080 --> 51:36.080]  He said what time can he be there
[51:36.080 --> 51:39.080]  That's a good question, we have to put it together
[51:39.080 --> 51:43.080]  But thanks to the brush fires of liberty you've been lighting
[51:43.080 --> 51:47.080]  I've kind of been a victim of my own success here as a candidate for Congress
[51:47.080 --> 51:51.080]  I actually have a good chance of out raising the Republicans
[51:51.080 --> 51:54.080]  Good for you, good for you Dan
[51:54.080 --> 51:59.080]  And Michael, on our last show Dan called in
[51:59.080 --> 52:09.080]  He has made so many waves that the powers that be are sending the local state police to check them out
[52:09.080 --> 52:11.080]  Oh good
[52:11.080 --> 52:15.080]  That's what I thought, that is the greatest endorsement he could have had
[52:15.080 --> 52:16.080]  Yeah
[52:16.080 --> 52:20.080]  Yeah, and I called the Putnam PD and they scattered like cockroaches, it was amazing
[52:20.080 --> 52:23.080]  Wonderful, great news Dan
[52:23.080 --> 52:26.080]  Alright, well thanks Dan
[52:26.080 --> 52:30.080]  Yeah, and you know, get well and I figured that was weakness
[52:30.080 --> 52:34.080]  But I figured you're probably healing from surgery
[52:34.080 --> 52:37.080]  No, no, I didn't have surgery
[52:37.080 --> 52:40.080]  I didn't have surgery, I had an angiogram
[52:40.080 --> 52:45.080]  They never cut me, they took really good care of me
[52:45.080 --> 52:50.080]  I'm trying to gather money so I can pay back Gundersen Lutheran Hospital
[52:50.080 --> 52:55.080]  And eventually I'm going to get so rich that I'm planning to build another wing on that hospital
[52:55.080 --> 52:58.080]  That's how good they took care of me when I was there
[52:58.080 --> 52:59.080]  That's awesome
[52:59.080 --> 53:01.080]  Yeah, I tried to help you out with that
[53:01.080 --> 53:07.080]  And I just also wanted to let you know, you have a good thousand or so people that were very concerned about it
[53:07.080 --> 53:11.080]  I got a lot of calls and a lot of emails asking how you were
[53:11.080 --> 53:18.080]  So I came on top of it and you know, they're pretty much looking in and they're going to be chipping in
[53:18.080 --> 53:27.080]  So I'm pretty much up there with Randy's Beer Fund myself, it being New England and it being a whole stack of global warming outside
[53:27.080 --> 53:33.080]  Yeah, and that would be heartsofliberty.com, is that right?
[53:33.080 --> 53:36.080]  Yeah, heart.org
[53:36.080 --> 53:38.080]  Okay, heartsofliberty.org
[53:38.080 --> 53:45.080]  Okay, thank you Dan, we want to go to our next caller now and make sure we get everyone in before Michael has to jump
[53:45.080 --> 53:46.080]  Thanks Dan
[53:46.080 --> 53:49.080]  Okay, we're going now to Jim in Ohio
[53:49.080 --> 53:54.080]  Jim, thank you for calling in, what is your question or comment for Michael Badnerick?
[53:54.080 --> 53:56.080]  Hi, good evening
[53:56.080 --> 54:02.080]  Since I moved back here to Ohio about two and a half years ago from Colorado
[54:02.080 --> 54:08.080]  Where I first talked to Michael on the phone on one of the radio programs there
[54:08.080 --> 54:16.080]  I've heard a lot of talk back here about the formation of the National Common Law Grand Jury
[54:16.080 --> 54:19.080]  And I wondered if I could get some of Michael's thoughts on that
[54:19.080 --> 54:26.080]  I know there was some upset over trying to talk about that at the convention
[54:26.080 --> 54:30.080]  I'm not sure what thoughts we're talking about
[54:30.080 --> 54:38.080]  We the people invented government and as Bill Cosby told his children
[54:38.080 --> 54:41.080]  I brought you into this world, I can take you out
[54:41.080 --> 54:46.080]  And that is literally true of the government status
[54:46.080 --> 54:49.080]  So, I mean, it's not going to happen
[54:49.080 --> 54:56.080]  But we have the power to just disband this version of the government
[54:56.080 --> 54:59.080]  And create something else if that's what we chose to do
[54:59.080 --> 55:07.080]  Well, if we can do that, we also, therefore, have the power to create these grand juries
[55:07.080 --> 55:13.080]  Instead of eliminating the government, to simply modify it and fix it
[55:13.080 --> 55:20.080]  So we need to get a lot of people behind this citizen grand jury concept
[55:20.080 --> 55:31.080]  And, I mean, literally hold a trial, indict these people and put them in jail for perjury
[55:31.080 --> 55:35.080]  Violating their oath of office and in some cases treason
[55:35.080 --> 55:43.080]  You know, if they knew that they were violating the Constitution and they did it anyway
[55:43.080 --> 55:46.080]  That's treason
[55:46.080 --> 55:49.080]  And I believe most certainly that they do
[55:49.080 --> 55:57.080]  Well, it didn't seem at the convention that it was the right time to, this time, to bring it up
[55:57.080 --> 56:01.080]  Because it seemed to be, according to the people from Ohio that went up there
[56:01.080 --> 56:06.080]  That it was, discussion of it seemed to be stifled because there wasn't room on the agenda for it
[56:06.080 --> 56:10.080]  Yeah, well, what we need is numbers
[56:10.080 --> 56:18.080]  I mean, you can be right, but unless you've got the people behind you to help you enforce the ideas
[56:18.080 --> 56:23.080]  Then unfortunately nothing's going to happen
[56:23.080 --> 56:26.080]  So
[56:26.080 --> 56:29.080]  Well, I guess it was the hope of the people that I'm hearing
[56:29.080 --> 56:35.080]  I'm listening and trying to learn about what they've been doing here in Ohio since I've been gone for 22 years
[56:35.080 --> 56:38.080]  And I've just come on to some of these folks
[56:38.080 --> 56:43.080]  But they seem to think that it was a powerful possibility
[56:43.080 --> 56:55.080]  Because you had such a gathering of people from all over the country that possibly a national common law grand jury could be set at that time
[56:55.080 --> 56:59.080]  And they wondered why it didn't, more talk about that didn't go forward
[56:59.080 --> 57:02.080]  That's, I guess, what I was asking
[57:02.080 --> 57:05.080]  Right, well, like I said, there's a lot of stuff happening
[57:05.080 --> 57:08.080]  We are going to be moving forward
[57:08.080 --> 57:11.080]  We will restore liberty
[57:11.080 --> 57:14.080]  I'm just not sure all the details about how we're going to do that
[57:14.080 --> 57:19.080]  All right, listen, Michael, we're going to be cutting the break in about a minute and a half
[57:19.080 --> 57:22.080]  Jim, thank you for your call, thank you for your comments
[57:22.080 --> 57:24.080]  Michael, any closing comments?
[57:24.080 --> 57:28.080]  And we are on the air here on 9.1 FM in Austin
[57:28.080 --> 57:34.080]  Covering most of Austin and also in two other FMs in Madison, Wisconsin and Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
[57:34.080 --> 57:37.080]  We're on dozens of AM stations as well
[57:37.080 --> 57:41.080]  Just some closing comments before you have to jump at the top of the hour
[57:41.080 --> 57:46.080]  Well, my website, as always, constitutionpreservation.org
[57:46.080 --> 57:50.080]  Or you can touch base with me on Facebook
[57:50.080 --> 57:54.080]  I'm using Facebook to do a lot of advertising
[57:54.080 --> 57:59.080]  So that's where I keep my personal status
[57:59.080 --> 58:07.080]  Wonderful, and folks, go to HeartsofLiberty.org and give a donation for Michael to pay back
[58:07.080 --> 58:11.080]  Gunderson Lutheran Hospital for taking such good care of him
[58:11.080 --> 58:14.080]  and bringing him back from literally the dead
[58:14.080 --> 58:17.080]  His heart was stopped for what, like 10 minutes or so
[58:17.080 --> 58:20.080]  We're so glad to have you back, so glad to hear your voice
[58:20.080 --> 58:24.080]  Like I said, I see you, I'm going to give you a big kiss
[58:24.080 --> 58:26.080]  I'm looking forward to it
[58:26.080 --> 58:28.080]  All right, Michael, thank you for joining us
[58:28.080 --> 58:32.080]  And folks, for the rest of the show, we'll be taking your calls
[58:32.080 --> 58:36.080]  512-646-1984
[58:36.080 --> 58:39.080]  You can ask about traffic issues or other issues
[58:39.080 --> 58:41.080]  Phone lines are open
[58:41.080 --> 58:43.080]  We'll be back after the top of the hour news break
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[59:43.080 --> 01:00:04.080]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Network
[01:00:04.080 --> 01:00:08.080]  Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has shifted strategy
[01:00:08.080 --> 01:00:11.080]  and awarded contracts to Western oil companies
[01:00:11.080 --> 01:00:13.080]  headed by oil giant Chevron
[01:00:13.080 --> 01:00:17.080]  In 2008, Venezuela nationalized foreign oil companies' assets
[01:00:17.080 --> 01:00:21.080]  imposing higher royalties and subjecting their executives
[01:00:21.080 --> 01:00:23.080]  to raids by tax authorities
[01:00:23.080 --> 01:00:27.080]  Egyptian Army General Mohammed Omar has warned
[01:00:27.080 --> 01:00:30.080]  that the widespread hatred toward the policies
[01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:33.080]  of Finance Minister Yousef Buttrasghali
[01:00:33.080 --> 01:00:35.080]  could lead to his assassination
[01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:39.080]  Omar described as inhumane wages paid to nurses and doctors
[01:00:39.080 --> 01:00:42.080]  who earn as little as $40 a month
[01:00:42.080 --> 01:00:44.080]  By a two-to-one margin,
[01:00:44.080 --> 01:00:47.080]  Americans support an end to tax cuts for the wealthy
[01:00:47.080 --> 01:00:51.080]  According to the latest New York Times-CBS News Bowl,
[01:00:51.080 --> 01:00:55.080]  Americans blame George Bush, Wall Street, and Congress
[01:00:55.080 --> 01:00:57.080]  much more than they do President Obama
[01:00:57.080 --> 01:01:01.080]  for the nation's economic problems and budget deficit
[01:01:01.080 --> 01:01:03.080]  Fewer than 1 in 10 Americans say
[01:01:03.080 --> 01:01:07.080]  members of Congress deserve re-election
[01:01:07.080 --> 01:01:10.080]  Top of the hour news brought to you by
[01:01:10.080 --> 01:01:12.080]  INN World Report
[01:01:12.080 --> 01:01:15.080]  Two former Blackwater employees have accused the company
[01:01:15.080 --> 01:01:17.080]  of defrauding the U.S. government for years
[01:01:17.080 --> 01:01:20.080]  including billing for a Filipina prostitute
[01:01:20.080 --> 01:01:22.080]  on its payroll in Afghanistan
[01:01:22.080 --> 01:01:25.080]  Melon Davis and her husband Brad said
[01:01:25.080 --> 01:01:27.080]  Blackwater listed the woman as
[01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:29.080]  moral welfare recreation
[01:01:29.080 --> 01:01:32.080]  The most notorious incident involving Blackwater
[01:01:32.080 --> 01:01:36.080]  was the shooting of 17 Iraqis in Baghdad in 2007
[01:01:36.080 --> 01:01:39.080]  Court records say the couple had personal knowledge
[01:01:39.080 --> 01:01:41.080]  of the company falsifying invoices,
[01:01:41.080 --> 01:01:43.080]  double-billing federal agencies,
[01:01:43.080 --> 01:01:47.080]  and charging the government for personal and inappropriate items
[01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:49.080]  whose real purpose was hidden
[01:01:49.080 --> 01:01:51.080]  They said they witnessed systematic fraud
[01:01:51.080 --> 01:01:53.080]  on the company's security contracts
[01:01:53.080 --> 01:01:56.080]  with the State Department in Iraq and Afghanistan
[01:01:56.080 --> 01:01:59.080]  and with the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA
[01:01:59.080 --> 01:02:08.080]  after Hurricane Katrina
[01:02:08.080 --> 01:02:11.080]  John Farmer, a senior counsel for the 9-11 Commission,
[01:02:11.080 --> 01:02:13.080]  has revealed in a new book,
[01:02:13.080 --> 01:02:15.080]  Irrefutable Evidence, that a day after
[01:02:15.080 --> 01:02:19.080]  a September 17, 2001 White House briefing,
[01:02:19.080 --> 01:02:23.080]  the FAA and NORAD suddenly altered their chronologies
[01:02:23.080 --> 01:02:26.080]  to produce a coherent timeline and story
[01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:28.080]  that fit together nicely
[01:02:28.080 --> 01:02:30.080]  with the account provided publicly
[01:02:30.080 --> 01:02:33.080]  by Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz
[01:02:33.080 --> 01:02:35.080]  and Vice President Cheney
[01:02:35.080 --> 01:02:37.080]  Farmer says Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney
[01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:40.080]  gave false versions touting the military's readiness
[01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:43.080]  to shoot down United Flight 93
[01:02:43.080 --> 01:02:45.080]  before it could hit Washington
[01:02:45.080 --> 01:02:48.080]  Farmer says planes were never in place to intercept it
[01:02:48.080 --> 01:02:51.080]  By the time the Northeast Air Defense Sector
[01:02:51.080 --> 01:02:53.080]  had been informed of the hijacking,
[01:02:53.080 --> 01:02:56.080]  United 93 had already crashed
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[01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:29.080]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty
[01:03:29.080 --> 01:03:32.080]  I read his book and he says
[01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:37.080]  He cares not for the unsightly
[01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:46.080]  These warmongers come by that term rightly
[01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:49.080]  I won't pay for the war with my body
[01:03:49.080 --> 01:03:53.080]  Ain't gonna pay for their car with my money
[01:03:53.080 --> 01:03:56.080]  I won't pay for the fun with my body
[01:03:56.080 --> 01:04:00.080]  Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy
[01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:03.080]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body
[01:04:03.080 --> 01:04:06.080]  I won't pay for the boys with my money
[01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:10.080]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body
[01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:14.080]  The whole agenda smells funny
[01:04:14.080 --> 01:04:20.080]  I wanna fight in a war of my own
[01:04:20.080 --> 01:04:27.080]  That one would be less access and fraud
[01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:34.080]  I wanna pay for a war of my own
[01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:41.080]  They live in glass houses so I can watch them grow bones
[01:04:41.080 --> 01:04:44.080]  I wanna fight in a war I can win
[01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:47.080]  I can never win the one that they have me in
[01:04:47.080 --> 01:04:51.080]  That one I lose long before it begins
[01:04:51.080 --> 01:04:54.080]  I wanna pay for a war I can win
[01:04:54.080 --> 01:05:01.080]  When I'm fighting in my own war
[01:05:01.080 --> 01:05:05.080]  It's such a peaceful feeling
[01:05:31.080 --> 01:05:35.080]  So callers, if you'd like to call in, we got open phone lines.
[01:05:35.080 --> 01:05:39.080]  Now we were not able to take some calls the last couple of nights,
[01:05:39.080 --> 01:05:43.080]  last couple shows this week because everybody waited till the last minute
[01:05:43.080 --> 01:05:46.080]  to stack up the calls and then we couldn't spend any time with anybody
[01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:49.080]  and some people we didn't even get a chance to get to.
[01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:56.080]  So I'm letting you guys know right now we got three more hours and open phone lines.
[01:05:56.080 --> 01:06:01.080]  So call in now, 512-646-1984.
[01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:04.080]  And in the meantime, while we're waiting for the callers to call in,
[01:06:04.080 --> 01:06:09.080]  Eddie, you had something you wanted to discuss concerning the Texas Constitution.
[01:06:09.080 --> 01:06:14.080]  Yeah, we know we talked about property taxes and so on and so forth.
[01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:18.080]  There's something I would like for you guys to hear
[01:06:18.080 --> 01:06:23.080]  from the original 1836 Republic of Texas Constitution here.
[01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:28.080]  In the 1836 version of the Constitution, we don't have a bill of rights.
[01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:31.080]  We have a declaration of rights.
[01:06:31.080 --> 01:06:38.080]  Now in that declaration of rights, it says the following in terms of property.
[01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:45.080]  No person's particular services shall be demanded nor property taken or applied to public use
[01:06:45.080 --> 01:06:50.080]  unless by the consent of himself or his representative
[01:06:50.080 --> 01:06:56.080]  without just compensation being made therefore according to law.
[01:06:56.080 --> 01:07:01.080]  Now that right there would throw imminent domain right out the window
[01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:04.080]  because not only can you not take it without my consent,
[01:07:04.080 --> 01:07:09.080]  you can't take it if you're not willing to pay what I'm asking for.
[01:07:09.080 --> 01:07:15.080]  Now one of my first questions is where did we the people of the Republic of Texas
[01:07:15.080 --> 01:07:20.080]  grant the authority on the reformation of this republic,
[01:07:20.080 --> 01:07:24.080]  not that I knew that it was ever dissolved to begin with to tell you the truth.
[01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:28.080]  How did we come to the point where all the things we reserved in our declaration of rights
[01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:32.080]  got rewritten and taken away from us?
[01:07:32.080 --> 01:07:34.080]  That would be the first thing I'd like to ask.
[01:07:34.080 --> 01:07:39.080]  Now when you go to a little later version, this is the 1845 version,
[01:07:39.080 --> 01:07:46.080]  allegedly the version when we joined the United States as people of the Union.
[01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:49.080]  Now this is what it said at that time.
[01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:54.080]  No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, retroactive law,
[01:07:54.080 --> 01:07:58.080]  or any law impairing the obligation of contract shall be made,
[01:07:58.080 --> 01:08:02.080]  and no person's property shall be taken or applied to public use
[01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:10.080]  without adequate compensation being made unless by the consent of such person.
[01:08:10.080 --> 01:08:15.080]  So even when we joined the United States, allegedly joined that is,
[01:08:15.080 --> 01:08:19.080]  did we give consent for eminent domain?
[01:08:19.080 --> 01:08:21.080]  Even at that point.
[01:08:21.080 --> 01:08:24.080]  But as you progress through each of these constitutions,
[01:08:24.080 --> 01:08:31.080]  you will see that over time as we became more and more under the control of the federal government,
[01:08:31.080 --> 01:08:35.080]  our constitution seems to keep devolving.
[01:08:35.080 --> 01:08:40.080]  We keep losing more and more things out of our original declaration of rights,
[01:08:40.080 --> 01:08:44.080]  and they're being replaced with more of what looks like privileges.
[01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:46.080]  Now let me give you another example here.
[01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:54.080]  In the 1836 version, this declaration of rights is declared to be a part of this constitution
[01:08:54.080 --> 01:09:00.080]  and shall never be violated on any pretense whatever.
[01:09:00.080 --> 01:09:06.080]  That to me sounds like, what can we consider a pretense in that case, Randy?
[01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:12.080]  Would an amendment process be considered a pretense?
[01:09:12.080 --> 01:09:15.080]  We would have to define pretense.
[01:09:15.080 --> 01:09:21.080]  Pretense is really kind of a vague term.
[01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:25.080]  That's true, but it is followed by the word whatever.
[01:09:25.080 --> 01:09:27.080]  Any pretense, whatever.
[01:09:27.080 --> 01:09:33.080]  So as vague or as ambiguous as it may be, it doesn't appear to matter because it can be anything.
[01:09:33.080 --> 01:09:44.080]  When you said that, I'm thinking that would tend to restrict any subsequent constitutional amendment
[01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:48.080]  that would appear to infringe on that one.
[01:09:48.080 --> 01:09:52.080]  Exactly, and it specifically speaks to the declaration of rights.
[01:09:52.080 --> 01:09:57.080]  So it isn't limiting the amendment process of the rest of the Constitution,
[01:09:57.080 --> 01:10:02.080]  but it is strictly limiting what is known as the declaration of rights.
[01:10:02.080 --> 01:10:07.080]  In other words, we feel these are important enough that nobody can ever change them,
[01:10:07.080 --> 01:10:09.080]  not the government, not even the people,
[01:10:09.080 --> 01:10:15.080]  because these are things that we're declaring are absolutely necessary to a free republic.
[01:10:15.080 --> 01:10:21.080]  So what you're saying is that the Constitution is in violation of the Constitution?
[01:10:21.080 --> 01:10:24.080]  It would appear to be so, yes,
[01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:29.080]  because we've now instituted eminent domain over private property when the Constitution itself
[01:10:29.080 --> 01:10:33.080]  and the Bill of Rights specifically declared private property cannot be taken,
[01:10:33.080 --> 01:10:36.080]  not only even with just compensation,
[01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:44.080]  but unless the person that owned it or his representative granted you the permission to take it.
[01:10:44.080 --> 01:10:52.080]  Now, another important aspect of this is what it used to say about the right to keep and bear arms.
[01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:57.080]  This is what it said in the original 1836 Republic Constitution.
[01:10:57.080 --> 01:11:03.080]  Every citizen shall have the right to bear arms in defense of himself and the republic.
[01:11:03.080 --> 01:11:10.080]  The military shall at all times and in all cases be subordinate to the civil power.
[01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:20.080]  Now, defense of himself, that to me sounds like an individual right, not a collective right.
[01:11:20.080 --> 01:11:22.080]  Would anybody disagree with that?
[01:11:22.080 --> 01:11:32.080]  That's still in statute, that you have the right to defend your property and your person.
[01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:35.080]  Ah, but see, you can only do it the way they've got it in the legislature.
[01:11:35.080 --> 01:11:38.080]  You can only do it if you're standing in your own house.
[01:11:38.080 --> 01:11:41.080]  No, no, no, don't say that in statute.
[01:11:41.080 --> 01:11:46.080]  It says you have the right to defend your property and your person.
[01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:54.080]  You have the right to defend the property and the person of another as if it were your own.
[01:11:54.080 --> 01:12:01.080]  This is true, but my point of this is where it says you have the right to bear arms for that purpose.
[01:12:01.080 --> 01:12:07.080]  And the legislature has removed your right to bear arms anywhere except on your own property, more or less,
[01:12:07.080 --> 01:12:11.080]  unless you get one of their permit slips.
[01:12:11.080 --> 01:12:14.080]  And notice that in this version of the Constitution,
[01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:21.080]  there is no such thing as a legislative process to keep that right,
[01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:26.080]  whereas the current Constitution says the legislature has the right to regulate.
[01:12:26.080 --> 01:12:30.080]  And it has said that since the original version of the 1876 version,
[01:12:30.080 --> 01:12:34.080]  which is what they're running on now with amendments.
[01:12:34.080 --> 01:12:39.080]  The 1876 version allegedly put that saying in there where,
[01:12:39.080 --> 01:12:45.080]  but the state has the right to regulate the wearing of arms with an eye towards crime prevention.
[01:12:45.080 --> 01:12:46.080]  I got news for you.
[01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:51.080]  In 1876, we were still fighting Indians and everything else in this part of Texas.
[01:12:51.080 --> 01:12:56.080]  There is no way you're going to convince me the people of Texas rewrote the bill of rights
[01:12:56.080 --> 01:13:00.080]  to take away their guns because they didn't have a license.
[01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:03.080]  You're just never going to convince me of that.
[01:13:03.080 --> 01:13:08.080]  It appears as though in the original Constitution, they were forbidden to do that.
[01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:09.080]  That's exactly correct.
[01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:11.080]  They were forbidden to do that.
[01:13:11.080 --> 01:13:18.080]  If you guys out there haven't done this, go to that tarleton.law.utexas.edu
[01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:21.080]  and look up the Constitutions there.
[01:13:21.080 --> 01:13:27.080]  They have actual scanned copies of every version of Texas Constitution that's come down the pike,
[01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:36.080]  even the one from 1824 before we actually became separate and independent of Mexico.
[01:13:36.080 --> 01:13:44.080]  The 1836 version is where the actual Republic of Texas was formed, or 1836 version.
[01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:48.080]  In that, it's basically set it up where in this republic,
[01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:52.080]  our declaration of rights was never allowed to be amended or altered.
[01:13:52.080 --> 01:13:58.080]  And it seems like they have used the Reformation after the Civil War and all that
[01:13:58.080 --> 01:14:07.080]  as a conduit to allow them to change the Constitution in ways the people would never have agreed to.
[01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:10.080]  That's what it's looking like to me.
[01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:14.080]  So you're going to spoils of war?
[01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:17.080]  Well, I'm not. They are.
[01:14:17.080 --> 01:14:18.080]  Okay.
[01:14:18.080 --> 01:14:27.080]  The thing about it is, see, is most of the Constitution as it exists today still more or less looks like this,
[01:14:27.080 --> 01:14:34.080]  but there's enough changes in there to take away particular rights of the people in such a manner that
[01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:36.080]  they're no longer rights.
[01:14:36.080 --> 01:14:40.080]  Now they're government-regulated privileges.
[01:14:40.080 --> 01:14:45.080]  And I, for one, being who I am, have a problem with that.
[01:14:45.080 --> 01:14:50.080]  Now, let's see, there was also one of these versions I found very interesting.
[01:14:50.080 --> 01:14:58.080]  It held that the legislators themselves were liable to the people.
[01:14:58.080 --> 01:15:02.080]  And part of their oath of office, Randy, you would love this,
[01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:10.080]  part of the oath of office required that under no circumstances would they introduce or write
[01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:19.080]  or even vote upon any bill that would act in the detriment of the people of Texas.
[01:15:19.080 --> 01:15:24.080]  They were forbidden right in the Constitution by their oath from ever creating, writing,
[01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:26.080]  or supporting a bill that did that.
[01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:40.080]  Yeah, but the problem with that is it's high-minded rhetoric, but how do you determine in advance
[01:15:40.080 --> 01:15:50.080]  what kind of bill will over time work and injustice?
[01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:56.080]  Well, but that point is there has to come a point where you deviate from the original setup of that bill enough
[01:15:56.080 --> 01:16:01.080]  that it becomes unmistakable that the next step is going to result in an injury.
[01:16:01.080 --> 01:16:03.080]  That point's got to come eventually.
[01:16:03.080 --> 01:16:06.080]  Up to that point, you may not have rendered an injury.
[01:16:06.080 --> 01:16:12.080]  But after that point, you're going to, and that should become an obvious fact.
[01:16:12.080 --> 01:16:18.080]  Even if it's high-minded rhetoric, Randy, it still, you know, directs the intention.
[01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:24.080]  Well, my concern is more that this is rah, rah, rah stuff.
[01:16:24.080 --> 01:16:35.080]  It's rhetoric that sounds as though it has meaning, but when you look more closely, there's no substance.
[01:16:35.080 --> 01:16:43.080]  And this is a primary tool of the bad guys.
[01:16:43.080 --> 01:16:49.080]  They make these sounds, and the sounds sound as if they have meaning, but when you look more closely,
[01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:52.080]  they're all just smoke and mirrors.
[01:16:52.080 --> 01:16:53.080]  Okay, listen, we're going to break.
[01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:54.080]  We'll talk about this some more on the other side.
[01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:56.080]  We've got a couple of callers on the line, too.
[01:16:56.080 --> 01:17:00.080]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:00.080 --> 01:17:01.080]  Hello, Austin.
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[01:20:17.080 --> 01:20:20.080]  Okay, we are back.
[01:20:20.080 --> 01:20:22.080]  Sorry for the long break.
[01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:24.080]  Chit-chatting off the air here.
[01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:26.080]  We are going to go to your calls now.
[01:20:26.080 --> 01:20:28.080]  We've got Jim, Rodney, and Bill.
[01:20:28.080 --> 01:20:33.080]  We're going to go to, well, actually, yes, we're going to go to Bill in Wisconsin.
[01:20:33.080 --> 01:20:38.080]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:20:38.080 --> 01:20:45.080]  I just wanted to echo some other comments people have made about all of you people dedicating your time and your effort.
[01:20:45.080 --> 01:20:49.080]  Your show has been fantastic.
[01:20:49.080 --> 01:20:57.080]  Putting some of the information that you put out there to use, well, this may not be great in a big scheme of things,
[01:20:57.080 --> 01:21:01.080]  but my son got a parking ticket one day.
[01:21:01.080 --> 01:21:06.080]  What he had done was he pulled up right next to a sign that said no parking from here to the corner.
[01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:08.080]  Pretty simple, self-explanatory.
[01:21:08.080 --> 01:21:09.080]  You park there.
[01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:11.080]  You don't go ahead of the sign.
[01:21:11.080 --> 01:21:17.080]  Well, he got a ticket because 200 and some feet back it said no parking on this side of the street.
[01:21:17.080 --> 01:21:20.080]  I said, well, all right, let's look this thing up.
[01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:21.080]  So he did.
[01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:28.080]  So you follow through and you look it up in the statutes, and the guy only put down, I believe it was like municipal ordinance 323.
[01:21:28.080 --> 01:21:32.080]  But when you looked that up, there were several parts to it, ABCD.
[01:21:32.080 --> 01:21:44.080]  And while he was in strict compliance with Part A, what the officer was trying to say was that he was not in compliance with this Part D on this other side of the street.
[01:21:44.080 --> 01:21:49.080]  So filed a motion to dismiss, sat down with the attorney, instructed my son a little bit.
[01:21:49.080 --> 01:21:55.080]  They had a 45-minute discussion, and the thing got dismissed.
[01:21:55.080 --> 01:22:01.080]  I'll just emphasize that, you know, read over these things, look up the statutes, and really see what they are.
[01:22:01.080 --> 01:22:03.080]  This is only a $20 ticket.
[01:22:03.080 --> 01:22:05.080]  They couldn't believe you're fighting this thing.
[01:22:05.080 --> 01:22:09.080]  Well, if they go around the town and they issue 100 of these, 100 people say, I ain't going to fight it.
[01:22:09.080 --> 01:22:10.080]  Well, what did they gain?
[01:22:10.080 --> 01:22:13.080]  They got a couple thousand dollars for doing nothing.
[01:22:13.080 --> 01:22:14.080]  Good.
[01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:15.080]  You understand.
[01:22:15.080 --> 01:22:17.080]  This is how we beat this thing.
[01:22:17.080 --> 01:22:21.080]  We don't wait until it gets horrendously horrible.
[01:22:21.080 --> 01:22:32.080]  We take them on on the small things, and you demonstrated the primary thing that I'm trying to get across.
[01:22:32.080 --> 01:22:34.080]  It's in the details.
[01:22:34.080 --> 01:22:36.080]  Look at the details.
[01:22:36.080 --> 01:22:37.080]  The devil's in the details.
[01:22:37.080 --> 01:22:39.080]  Read the code.
[01:22:39.080 --> 01:22:41.080]  Read the statute.
[01:22:41.080 --> 01:22:46.080]  Look at all of the elements, and especially at the lower courts.
[01:22:46.080 --> 01:23:03.080]  And it's come to, I've come to the conclusion that if we're going to beat it, we're not going to beat it in the Supreme Court of the United States or the Supreme Court of the State or the Court of Appeals or the District Court.
[01:23:03.080 --> 01:23:06.080]  We're going to beat it down here on the bottom.
[01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:10.080]  Well, we better beat some of the stuff in the Court of Appeals because that's where our cases are.
[01:23:10.080 --> 01:23:20.080]  If we're going to get purchase in the higher courts, we have to get control of the lower courts.
[01:23:20.080 --> 01:23:22.080]  Everything else will fall before them.
[01:23:22.080 --> 01:23:30.080]  Ninety-nine percent of the public never have any interaction with the government except down here at the bottom.
[01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:33.080]  We start taking control at the bottom.
[01:23:33.080 --> 01:23:36.080]  It'll filter up to the top.
[01:23:36.080 --> 01:23:55.080]  And in these small issues, if the public stops just saying, well, you know, I realize that it's not right and I wasn't guilty, but heck, it's only $500 and it'll cost me $700 to fight it.
[01:23:55.080 --> 01:23:59.080]  That is the wrong calculus.
[01:23:59.080 --> 01:24:07.080]  The calculus they need to use is what will this cost my children?
[01:24:07.080 --> 01:24:16.080]  I am a steward of this system until it leaves my hands and is put in the hands of my children.
[01:24:16.080 --> 01:24:27.080]  And it is my personal intention that I bequeath this system to my children in better condition than I got it.
[01:24:27.080 --> 01:24:46.080]  So if all of us start using these minor, seemingly minor issues, traffic tickets, parking tickets, and the Class C misdemeanors and such as an opportunity not only to learn the law,
[01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:57.080]  but to demonstrate to the judges and prosecutors that if you don't follow the law, I will kick your behind.
[01:24:57.080 --> 01:25:07.080]  This will filter on up because not everybody is equipped or put here to fight the bigger fight.
[01:25:07.080 --> 01:25:12.080]  I'm in the process of writing criminal charges against federal district judges.
[01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:16.080]  Yeah, and I've got cases that are in front of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
[01:25:16.080 --> 01:25:21.080]  So come on, people, fight it at the low level so we can have the support for our big cases.
[01:25:21.080 --> 01:25:32.080]  Not everybody is geared to fight the higher fights, but if you guys help us at the lower end and become more knowledgeable, it destabilizes everything.
[01:25:32.080 --> 01:25:33.080]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:25:33.080 --> 01:25:39.080]  The lower end is like an inverted pyramid and it's standing on this little kernel.
[01:25:39.080 --> 01:25:47.080]  We kick that little kernel out from under and everything begins to collapse on top of it.
[01:25:47.080 --> 01:25:48.080]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:49.080]  Randy's right.
[01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:55.080]  So come on, guys, we need you guys to fight the little fights at the lower level so that we can win our other fights at the bigger level.
[01:25:55.080 --> 01:26:01.080]  Yeah, and besides, it's fun when you become the aggressor.
[01:26:01.080 --> 01:26:09.080]  On the bigger fight, move out of that, help another guy, and we've got a fellow up here in Wisconsin.
[01:26:09.080 --> 01:26:19.080]  You'd think of it as a mandamus, but they're actually calling it a petition for a supervisory rep, coming back to a judge who made errors in a trial court.
[01:26:19.080 --> 01:26:22.080]  And just strictly statutes.
[01:26:22.080 --> 01:26:23.080]  And you're right.
[01:26:23.080 --> 01:26:30.080]  When you look at these things, these people trip up all over themselves, and you go back and you look at the statutes and say, what was supposed to happen here?
[01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:32.080]  Okay, this didn't happen.
[01:26:32.080 --> 01:26:35.080]  In this case, there were just two little simple issues.
[01:26:35.080 --> 01:26:46.080]  Took that up, and they're supposed to have an answer in by the 16th of next week as a reply brief, and we'll see how that's all going to wash out.
[01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:51.080]  So first step to move on up to the appellate court, playing around with the circuit.
[01:26:51.080 --> 01:27:01.080]  What I'm going to suggest is that you forget about the original complainant, and you forget about the prosecutor.
[01:27:01.080 --> 01:27:06.080]  Set your sights on the judge.
[01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:13.080]  Always keep in mind, see, we have a gross misconception about what judges are.
[01:27:13.080 --> 01:27:19.080]  We tend to think that judges sit up there and they make the decisions.
[01:27:19.080 --> 01:27:23.080]  We tend not to understand what their duty is.
[01:27:23.080 --> 01:27:29.080]  The judge is a public servant, and he serves you.
[01:27:29.080 --> 01:27:35.080]  And what he's there to do is develop the facts in the case.
[01:27:35.080 --> 01:27:37.080]  And let me qualify.
[01:27:37.080 --> 01:27:40.080]  This is a trial judge.
[01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:54.080]  A trial judge has the duty to develop the facts in the case and then apply the law as it exists to the facts that he develops.
[01:27:54.080 --> 01:28:05.080]  If he determines for himself what he believes the law means, then he has violated a ministerial duty.
[01:28:05.080 --> 01:28:12.080]  The appeals court makes the determination of what the law means.
[01:28:12.080 --> 01:28:19.080]  The trial court may only apply the law as it comes to him to the facts in the case.
[01:28:19.080 --> 01:28:34.080]  And that's why I challenge the legal reform guys who go in there saying this guy's a dirty, rotten scoundrel and doesn't give the judge law.
[01:28:34.080 --> 01:28:44.080]  You must give the law – my tongue is getting tangled – you must give the judge law to apply to the facts.
[01:28:44.080 --> 01:28:47.080]  That's all he needs.
[01:28:47.080 --> 01:28:49.080]  This is the fact.
[01:28:49.080 --> 01:28:51.080]  This is the law governing the fact.
[01:28:51.080 --> 01:28:58.080]  If you don't give him the law and you just give him your opinion, even if he agrees with you, he can't rule on it.
[01:28:58.080 --> 01:29:04.080]  That's why a lot of these legal reformists out there practice what I call legal myths.
[01:29:04.080 --> 01:29:13.080]  They come to the court with their own legal conclusions and they get thrown out every single time.
[01:29:13.080 --> 01:29:22.080]  And it gives the legal reform movement a bad name, I'll tell you, because then people like us who are actually doing something get discredited by that kind of behavior.
[01:29:22.080 --> 01:29:28.080]  Interject here for a second. I've got an email from somebody named Dan up in Mississippi.
[01:29:28.080 --> 01:29:32.080]  He sent an email to an Austin, Texas attorney.
[01:29:32.080 --> 01:29:35.080]  And I guess we'll cover that on the other side then, won't we?
[01:29:35.080 --> 01:29:36.080]  All right.
[01:29:36.080 --> 01:29:38.080]  We'll go to Eddie when we get back.
[01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:45.080]  And after Bill, we're going to take Pat, who's probably hanging up on the water tower up there.
[01:29:45.080 --> 01:29:47.080]  I'll be brief, Pat.
[01:29:47.080 --> 01:29:53.080]  Bill, hang on the line because we need to take Pat because I know it's really cold. Metta said it was freezing up there.
[01:29:53.080 --> 01:29:55.080]  And then we'll go to Reuben, a first-time caller.
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[01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:21.080]  Okay, Bill, if you would just hang on the line and Eddie said he's going to hold out for just a moment
[01:31:21.080 --> 01:31:26.080]  on what he was about to say because we really need to go to Pat, okay, out in West Texas.
[01:31:26.080 --> 01:31:32.080]  Pat and his wife, Metta, are probably the most dedicated listeners I've ever heard in my life.
[01:31:32.080 --> 01:31:36.080]  They climb up to the top of the water tower, and I know it is below freezing out there.
[01:31:36.080 --> 01:31:40.080]  I mean, poor Metta, she could only stay on the line a minute or two when she called into Michael.
[01:31:40.080 --> 01:31:45.080]  So we got to go to Pat because he's up there on the water tower hanging out there with the icicles.
[01:31:45.080 --> 01:31:49.080]  Pat, you're amazing. What do you have for us?
[01:31:49.080 --> 01:31:52.080]  I just wanted to touch a couple of things real quick.
[01:31:52.080 --> 01:31:56.080]  I want to call in for Michael Bednerich. He's an old friend of mine.
[01:31:56.080 --> 01:32:02.080]  I'm very happy. If he's still listening, very happy to know that he's okay.
[01:32:02.080 --> 01:32:11.080]  And we've got the local high school out here using his course on the DVD
[01:32:11.080 --> 01:32:17.080]  for an American constitutional class sponsored by the American Legion.
[01:32:17.080 --> 01:32:24.080]  Now, there's not many kids in the high school, unfortunately. Our entire school district only has 122 children.
[01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:27.080]  But it's a start.
[01:32:27.080 --> 01:32:30.080]  Very good news.
[01:32:30.080 --> 01:32:32.080]  Yeah, a point to Randy.
[01:32:32.080 --> 01:32:39.080]  You were discussing that with Eddie about the constitutional fine points and the high-minded rhetoric.
[01:32:39.080 --> 01:32:46.080]  Look at the law that was written and adjudicated during that period of time.
[01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:54.080]  And thereafter, based upon that constitution, you'll find it was more than just high-minded.
[01:32:54.080 --> 01:33:02.080]  I know you don't have a lot of time to do some of the research that I've done over the years.
[01:33:02.080 --> 01:33:13.080]  But if you sit and read some of the commentaries about some of the law from that time period, it's very, very interesting.
[01:33:13.080 --> 01:33:19.080]  My maternal grandfather was an attorney in San Antonio, died when he was 100 years old.
[01:33:19.080 --> 01:33:24.080]  Never had a driver's license, never put a license plate on his car.
[01:33:24.080 --> 01:33:27.080]  And he died in the 70s.
[01:33:27.080 --> 01:33:33.080]  He was a founding member of the cotton exchange in the state of Texas.
[01:33:33.080 --> 01:33:40.080]  And he met police officers at the front door with a double-barreled coach gun.
[01:33:40.080 --> 01:33:43.080]  That's how he felt and that's how he lived.
[01:33:43.080 --> 01:33:48.080]  So maybe I got it from him, I don't know.
[01:33:48.080 --> 01:33:50.080]  The fight's still going on out here, kids.
[01:33:50.080 --> 01:33:52.080]  Eddie, you got some of it.
[01:33:52.080 --> 01:33:54.080]  Yes, yes, I do.
[01:33:54.080 --> 01:33:56.080]  I'm wishing you guys luck with all that.
[01:33:56.080 --> 01:34:01.080]  And I hope some of the suggestions I've made have helped or at least given you ideas.
[01:34:01.080 --> 01:34:02.080]  It is.
[01:34:02.080 --> 01:34:06.080]  It's given us some other ideas.
[01:34:06.080 --> 01:34:11.080]  Metta's going to be back up and you're all part of the state next month.
[01:34:11.080 --> 01:34:16.080]  I'm hoping she'll be able to call in and do a little spot.
[01:34:16.080 --> 01:34:22.080]  But she's trying to get some people up to my class as the ag trading post.
[01:34:22.080 --> 01:34:26.080]  Yes, and tell Metta we want to get her on our show.
[01:34:26.080 --> 01:34:28.080]  Yeah, oh, she definitely wants to come on.
[01:34:28.080 --> 01:34:30.080]  That's not a problem.
[01:34:30.080 --> 01:34:36.080]  There's a lot of people all the way from El Paso down to the valley that need to know that she's running
[01:34:36.080 --> 01:34:44.080]  and what she stands for is a large legislative district, district number 19.
[01:34:44.080 --> 01:34:53.080]  And a lot of land, not many people, but they all have the same problem.
[01:34:53.080 --> 01:35:00.080]  When we get back to the Constitution, Eddie, you and I are lot-minded on that one.
[01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:04.080]  1836, there was a reason why it was written that way.
[01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:19.080]  And in 1876, the people that wrote the Reconstruction Constitution should have stayed in New York along with their carpet bags.
[01:35:19.080 --> 01:35:20.080]  Agreed.
[01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:25.080]  I will drop off of here at this point because I'm going to go get warm, kid.
[01:35:25.080 --> 01:35:26.080]  All right, Pat.
[01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:27.080]  You all have a good night.
[01:35:27.080 --> 01:35:28.080]  Thank you.
[01:35:28.080 --> 01:35:29.080]  Thanks, Pat.
[01:35:29.080 --> 01:35:30.080]  Thank you, Pat.
[01:35:30.080 --> 01:35:31.080]  Okay.
[01:35:31.080 --> 01:35:38.080]  We always love to hear from Pat and Metta, two of the most dedicated listeners I think I've ever heard on any talk radio show ever,
[01:35:38.080 --> 01:35:46.080]  climbing up to the top of their water tower out in the middle of the desert to call in rain or shine.
[01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:50.080]  Doesn't matter freezing, cold, doesn't matter what.
[01:35:50.080 --> 01:35:51.080]  They are very dedicated.
[01:35:51.080 --> 01:35:52.080]  Okay.
[01:35:52.080 --> 01:35:55.080]  We're going to go back to Bill now, and then we'll go to Reuben.
[01:35:55.080 --> 01:35:56.080]  Reuben, just hang on the line.
[01:35:56.080 --> 01:35:58.080]  Now, your first-time caller, you're next after Bill.
[01:35:58.080 --> 01:36:01.080]  All right, Eddie, you are about to address something to Bill.
[01:36:01.080 --> 01:36:03.080]  You were talking about some attorney in Texas or something?
[01:36:03.080 --> 01:36:04.080]  Yeah.
[01:36:04.080 --> 01:36:13.080]  There was the guy, Dan, up in Mississippi sent a letter to an Austin attorney called Brian Guerra who basically he says he's sending one of the
[01:36:13.080 --> 01:36:20.080]  recordings I'm assuming from the show, and based upon what it's talking about here, it's got to be the one where I did the voir dire of the
[01:36:20.080 --> 01:36:25.080]  police officer over the driver's license and the speed limit.
[01:36:25.080 --> 01:36:32.080]  And this attorney is telling him that these guys aren't considering Chapter 45 of the Code of Criminal Procedure,
[01:36:32.080 --> 01:36:37.080]  which specifically grants municipal and JP courts jurisdiction for traffic violations.
[01:36:37.080 --> 01:36:41.080]  Attorney Guerra, you are absolutely incorrect.
[01:36:41.080 --> 01:36:43.080]  I take that into full consideration.
[01:36:43.080 --> 01:36:49.080]  What you seem to fail to understand is Chapter 45 applies of the process at trial.
[01:36:49.080 --> 01:36:59.080]  The things that I am arguing regarding 14.06 and 1517 is that those are the events that occur prior to trial.
[01:36:59.080 --> 01:37:05.080]  And because those events come first and what it says must happen must be followed,
[01:37:05.080 --> 01:37:13.080]  it only goes to show that the JP and municipal court is removed of jurisdiction to hear the case
[01:37:13.080 --> 01:37:19.080]  because they are specifically directed to send you to the county court or the statutory county court,
[01:37:19.080 --> 01:37:23.080]  who is then directed to hold an arraignment.
[01:37:23.080 --> 01:37:30.080]  And they cannot hold an arraignment in this case because incarceration does not involve a part of the penalty.
[01:37:30.080 --> 01:37:33.080]  It's a catch-22.
[01:37:33.080 --> 01:37:38.080]  Neither court has jurisdiction to do the thing they are directed to do.
[01:37:38.080 --> 01:37:45.080]  Why? Because the traffic laws fall under the Administrative Procedures Act
[01:37:45.080 --> 01:37:51.080]  except for those exclusively exempted under the Administrative Procedures Act,
[01:37:51.080 --> 01:37:55.080]  Chapter 29.02 to be exact of Title 37.
[01:37:55.080 --> 01:38:01.080]  So, once again, we have attorneys that like to make all types of assertions,
[01:38:01.080 --> 01:38:07.080]  but who don't bother to read everything inclusive, they read only the small part that they think makes their point.
[01:38:07.080 --> 01:38:12.080]  So, folks out there, when you hear one do that, do not take him at face value
[01:38:12.080 --> 01:38:16.080]  because guaranteed he has only read the part that makes him look good.
[01:38:16.080 --> 01:38:20.080]  He has not tried in any way, shape or form to provide you with an entire picture.
[01:38:20.080 --> 01:38:24.080]  He just wants you to think he knows what he's talking about so you will trust him with your money.
[01:38:24.080 --> 01:38:32.080]  Yeah, Eddie, very similar tactics that are being used by these attorneys that are lobbying
[01:38:32.080 --> 01:38:36.080]  for the Oklahoma Association of Broadcasters saying, you know,
[01:38:36.080 --> 01:38:43.080]  they're quoting this little teeny tiny spot out of Part 15 Code of Federal, you know, out of 47 CFR,
[01:38:43.080 --> 01:38:48.080]  but they're not looking at the definitions under that chapter or anything,
[01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:53.080]  and they're just saying, see, see, it says here, Part 15, you have to have a license.
[01:38:53.080 --> 01:38:56.080]  No, that's not true. That's not true.
[01:38:56.080 --> 01:39:01.080]  You know, a person is the only one that can commit the offense under the Transportation Code.
[01:39:01.080 --> 01:39:04.080]  Did this attorney happen to mention that fact? No, he didn't.
[01:39:04.080 --> 01:39:08.080]  Did he happen to mention the fact that the person, according to the legislative drafting manual,
[01:39:08.080 --> 01:39:13.080]  is given an artificial meaning intentionally and does not mean to people?
[01:39:13.080 --> 01:39:15.080]  No, he didn't mention that either.
[01:39:15.080 --> 01:39:17.080]  Right. Exactly.
[01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:22.080]  Just like these attorneys don't mention the fact that you have to be a person under the same,
[01:39:22.080 --> 01:39:28.080]  basically almost the exact same definition of person to even fall under their Code of Federal Regulations,
[01:39:28.080 --> 01:39:31.080]  and they don't happen to mention the fact that the definition of the word state
[01:39:31.080 --> 01:39:39.080]  only includes U.S. territories, possessions, and D.C., none of the 50 states of the union.
[01:39:39.080 --> 01:39:41.080]  So let's get it on.
[01:39:41.080 --> 01:39:44.080]  Okay, Bill, go ahead.
[01:39:44.080 --> 01:39:50.080]  Okay. Just on that supervisory writ that I put in, that was against the judge,
[01:39:50.080 --> 01:39:56.080]  and it's really two points of procedural due process that happened here.
[01:39:56.080 --> 01:40:02.080]  This was a civil trial for a forfeiture.
[01:40:02.080 --> 01:40:09.080]  And what failed to happen there is that the judge wanted to treat this as a traffic violation.
[01:40:09.080 --> 01:40:13.080]  However, there was no traffic involved in this thing.
[01:40:13.080 --> 01:40:16.080]  This is another civil matter.
[01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:20.080]  And in the statutes, it says, okay, when you're done, there's supposed to be an order.
[01:40:20.080 --> 01:40:24.080]  The judge should sign an order saying, okay, we found you guilty, not guilty.
[01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:26.080]  You pay this and so forth.
[01:40:26.080 --> 01:40:28.080]  No order was ever entered.
[01:40:28.080 --> 01:40:29.080]  All right.
[01:40:29.080 --> 01:40:31.080]  It was just docketed as you do with traffic.
[01:40:31.080 --> 01:40:33.080]  So that was issue one.
[01:40:33.080 --> 01:40:36.080]  They had no authority to do that.
[01:40:36.080 --> 01:40:45.080]  And then issue number two is there was a motion put in for a new trial based on newly discovered evidence.
[01:40:45.080 --> 01:40:50.080]  Well, the statutes claimed that, hey, once this motion is put in there,
[01:40:50.080 --> 01:40:53.080]  the judge has 90 days to take care of it.
[01:40:53.080 --> 01:40:55.080]  I believe it's set or do something.
[01:40:55.080 --> 01:40:56.080]  What did the judge do here?
[01:40:56.080 --> 01:41:01.080]  Scheduled a hearing on this five months out, way outside the 90-day limit.
[01:41:01.080 --> 01:41:07.080]  So those were the points that went up to the appeals court and said, hey, turn around,
[01:41:07.080 --> 01:41:12.080]  put an order in here the way it's supposed to be, and then turn around.
[01:41:12.080 --> 01:41:16.080]  And within the 90-day limit, which is coming up on March 17,
[01:41:16.080 --> 01:41:19.080]  let's have the hearing on this motion for a new trial.
[01:41:19.080 --> 01:41:25.080]  That's what the petition was about, to get that one doing.
[01:41:25.080 --> 01:41:28.080]  And then I've got one other question for you.
[01:41:28.080 --> 01:41:30.080]  I think it was last night or a couple other times.
[01:41:30.080 --> 01:41:37.080]  You've made some reference to a Florida case, kind of when somebody wants to calculate damages.
[01:41:37.080 --> 01:41:42.080]  And then in this one case, a guy lost his liberty, I don't know,
[01:41:42.080 --> 01:41:45.080]  something like three or four hours, and he got $20,000.
[01:41:45.080 --> 01:41:51.080]  No, he was locked up in a county jail for 23 minutes and was awarded $25,000,
[01:41:51.080 --> 01:41:56.080]  a calculation of $1,065 per minute, approximately.
[01:41:56.080 --> 01:41:57.080]  Okay.
[01:41:57.080 --> 01:42:02.080]  What is that case site or the name or something that I can look up?
[01:42:02.080 --> 01:42:03.080]  Hang on just a second.
[01:42:03.080 --> 01:42:05.080]  Yes, I looked in my records.
[01:42:05.080 --> 01:42:06.080]  I couldn't find it.
[01:42:06.080 --> 01:42:08.080]  Someone wanted it from me.
[01:42:08.080 --> 01:42:11.080]  I've got it.
[01:42:11.080 --> 01:42:16.080]  I'm glad you asked that question because I needed to ask Eddie to find it for me
[01:42:16.080 --> 01:42:20.080]  because somehow I lost it in all my stuff.
[01:42:20.080 --> 01:42:21.080]  Well, good.
[01:42:21.080 --> 01:42:23.080]  We've got two of us out of sight there.
[01:42:23.080 --> 01:42:25.080]  Yes.
[01:42:25.080 --> 01:42:27.080]  And I have a huge repository.
[01:42:27.080 --> 01:42:29.080]  I don't know how I've lost it.
[01:42:29.080 --> 01:42:32.080]  Probably because you accidentally reformatted your hard drive.
[01:42:32.080 --> 01:42:35.080]  Yeah, I was probably brain dead at the time.
[01:42:35.080 --> 01:42:36.080]  I'm just kidding.
[01:42:36.080 --> 01:42:44.080]  At my age, that happens a lot, and my mother tells me it's not going to get better.
[01:42:44.080 --> 01:42:47.080]  I'm with you there, Randy.
[01:42:47.080 --> 01:42:56.080]  One of the advantages of getting old is that you get to wake up in a new world every day.
[01:42:56.080 --> 01:42:59.080]  I open my eyes and look around and say, who am I?
[01:42:59.080 --> 01:43:03.080]  Oh, come on.
[01:43:03.080 --> 01:43:06.080]  It's not quite that bad.
[01:43:06.080 --> 01:43:12.080]  I was sitting in a restaurant once looking at these little green and yellow things
[01:43:12.080 --> 01:43:22.080]  laying on my plate, and somehow avocado was gone from my mind.
[01:43:22.080 --> 01:43:24.080]  That was really frustrating.
[01:43:24.080 --> 01:43:29.080]  Randy, I don't think you should be admitting these things on the air.
[01:43:29.080 --> 01:43:33.080]  Yeah, maybe I shouldn't be admitting that.
[01:43:33.080 --> 01:43:35.080]  Okay, I've got the case site when we get back.
[01:43:35.080 --> 01:43:36.080]  All right.
[01:43:36.080 --> 01:43:37.080]  Oh, okay.
[01:43:37.080 --> 01:43:38.080]  All right, stay on the line, Bill.
[01:43:38.080 --> 01:43:41.080]  We're going to get you your case site, and then we're going to Ruben.
[01:43:41.080 --> 01:43:43.080]  First time caller, stay on the line, Ruben.
[01:43:43.080 --> 01:43:46.080]  We've got Rodney, Shirley, Shane coming right up.
[01:43:46.080 --> 01:43:50.080]  This is the rule of law.
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[01:45:26.080 --> 01:45:36.080]  As we sow, so shall we reap.
[01:45:36.080 --> 01:45:39.080]  There were a dozen big tree shoots from so many groves.
[01:45:39.080 --> 01:45:44.080]  No words can put on all of the seeds.
[01:45:44.080 --> 01:45:53.080]  Try as we will, take small steps, try and remember what goes around comes around.
[01:45:53.080 --> 01:46:00.080]  As we sow, so shall we reap.
[01:46:00.080 --> 01:46:03.080]  Okay, we hope we are sowing the good seed.
[01:46:03.080 --> 01:46:06.080]  We're trying, sowing the good seed of the word of the Lord.
[01:46:06.080 --> 01:46:10.080]  That's what we're trying to do here and Seeds of Justice.
[01:46:10.080 --> 01:46:12.080]  Okay, we're speaking with Bill from Wisconsin.
[01:46:12.080 --> 01:46:15.080]  Okay, Eddie, you've got some case citations for Bill.
[01:46:15.080 --> 01:46:21.080]  Yes, it's Trezevant versus City of Tampa, T-R-E-Z-E-V-A-N-T.
[01:46:21.080 --> 01:46:28.080]  It is 741 Federal 2nd, that's F period 2D, 336.
[01:46:28.080 --> 01:46:32.080]  It's out of the 11th Circuit, 1984.
[01:46:32.080 --> 01:46:34.080]  11th Circuit, 1984.
[01:46:34.080 --> 01:46:35.080]  Yep.
[01:46:35.080 --> 01:46:37.080]  Head and F, I'll be able to get it.
[01:46:37.080 --> 01:46:41.080]  Did you say Federal 2nd, 336?
[01:46:41.080 --> 01:46:44.080]  Yep, 741 Federal 2nd, 336.
[01:46:44.080 --> 01:46:45.080]  Okay, good.
[01:46:45.080 --> 01:46:50.080]  Did you have another case citation, Eddie, that you were mentioning on the break?
[01:46:50.080 --> 01:46:56.080]  Just one, I was mentioning to Randy specifically about some issues we're going to talk about later.
[01:46:56.080 --> 01:46:57.080]  Oh, okay.
[01:46:57.080 --> 01:46:58.080]  All right, very good.
[01:46:58.080 --> 01:47:00.080]  All right, is that all, Bill?
[01:47:00.080 --> 01:47:01.080]  Yeah, that's all.
[01:47:01.080 --> 01:47:05.080]  We're keeping up the good fight when we have more to let you know.
[01:47:05.080 --> 01:47:10.080]  We're working on comprehensive planning, getting that, got some case stuff going on there.
[01:47:10.080 --> 01:47:12.080]  We're also working on some raw milk issues.
[01:47:12.080 --> 01:47:15.080]  So I'll be back in touch.
[01:47:15.080 --> 01:47:16.080]  Okay, thank you, Bill.
[01:47:16.080 --> 01:47:17.080]  Sure thing.
[01:47:17.080 --> 01:47:18.080]  Okay, good night.
[01:47:18.080 --> 01:47:21.080]  Okay, we're going now to Ruben in Texas, first-time caller.
[01:47:21.080 --> 01:47:23.080]  I've been holding for quite a while.
[01:47:23.080 --> 01:47:24.080]  Ruben, thank you for calling.
[01:47:24.080 --> 01:47:26.080]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:47:26.080 --> 01:47:31.080]  I was just going to ask a couple of questions, and my brother Dominic is an avid listener,
[01:47:31.080 --> 01:47:33.080]  and he asked me to call on some traffic law.
[01:47:33.080 --> 01:47:36.080]  Oh, yes, Dominic, he calls in all the time.
[01:47:36.080 --> 01:47:37.080]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:47:37.080 --> 01:47:38.080]  You know Dominic?
[01:47:38.080 --> 01:47:40.080]  That's his brother, he said.
[01:47:40.080 --> 01:47:42.080]  We won't hold that against you.
[01:47:42.080 --> 01:47:44.080]  Oh, would you stop it.
[01:47:44.080 --> 01:47:45.080]  Go ahead, Ruben.
[01:47:45.080 --> 01:47:53.080]  My question on traffic law is I just recently got a citation for fail to yield a right-of-way.
[01:47:53.080 --> 01:48:00.080]  The reason why I got the citation is because the other driver had her signal light on,
[01:48:00.080 --> 01:48:09.080]  and when I was, I assumed that she was going to turn, but when I left the driveway, the driver went straight.
[01:48:09.080 --> 01:48:12.080]  So I'm wondering, can I fight it, or is this?
[01:48:12.080 --> 01:48:13.080]  Oh, you can fight it.
[01:48:13.080 --> 01:48:16.080]  You can so fight this.
[01:48:16.080 --> 01:48:18.080]  Were you in an alley at the time?
[01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:22.080]  It was just a private driveway exiting an apartment complex.
[01:48:22.080 --> 01:48:24.080]  Okay, read the statute.
[01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:30.080]  Yeah, read the specific statute, because it specifically says it applies only if you are exiting an alley.
[01:48:30.080 --> 01:48:32.080]  Okay.
[01:48:32.080 --> 01:48:39.080]  I had a guy call me who's a good legal researcher, and he got a ticket for failure to yield right-of-way,
[01:48:39.080 --> 01:48:43.080]  so I asked him, okay, what are the elements of the crime?
[01:48:43.080 --> 01:48:47.080]  He said, uh, don't give me, uh, read it.
[01:48:47.080 --> 01:48:52.080]  He called me back laughing later and read the statute.
[01:48:52.080 --> 01:48:59.080]  It is a violation to fail to yield right-of-way while exiting an alley.
[01:48:59.080 --> 01:49:01.080]  I said, okay, what's the next one?
[01:49:01.080 --> 01:49:05.080]  He said, there is no next one.
[01:49:05.080 --> 01:49:18.080]  Failure to yield right-of-way in the Texas Transportation Code only applies to failure to yield right-of-way while exiting an alley.
[01:49:18.080 --> 01:49:20.080]  Is that a hoot or what?
[01:49:20.080 --> 01:49:23.080]  That is a good one.
[01:49:23.080 --> 01:49:26.080]  The police don't read the statutes.
[01:49:26.080 --> 01:49:31.080]  And even if they did, they wouldn't understand it, even if it only had three words in it.
[01:49:31.080 --> 01:49:43.080]  Yes, so what you do is charge the police officer with aggravated perjury, accusing you of committing a crime that you,
[01:49:43.080 --> 01:49:50.080]  based on his testimony, you could not possibly commit because you were not exiting an alley.
[01:49:50.080 --> 01:49:52.080]  Correct.
[01:49:52.080 --> 01:49:57.080]  And aggravated perjury is a first-degree, is a third-degree felony.
[01:49:57.080 --> 01:50:05.080]  Yeah, then you also get to sue for malicious prosecution because he should have known that as should the prosecutor
[01:50:05.080 --> 01:50:09.080]  and should have dismissed the case the moment they said, where were you?
[01:50:09.080 --> 01:50:14.080]  And you also get to sue for tampering with a government document.
[01:50:14.080 --> 01:50:16.080]  And I probably need to explain this one.
[01:50:16.080 --> 01:50:17.080]  Oh, yeah.
[01:50:17.080 --> 01:50:22.080]  Because what they're going to say is you're charging two crimes with one action, and that's not true.
[01:50:22.080 --> 01:50:37.080]  The officer placed on a government document a statement that he knew was untrue or acted with reckless disregard of the truth
[01:50:37.080 --> 01:50:40.080]  and intended that it be taken as true.
[01:50:40.080 --> 01:50:44.080]  That's tampering with the government document and it's failing in the state of Texas.
[01:50:44.080 --> 01:50:54.080]  And then he took that document and presented it to the court when the officer presents a citation to the court.
[01:50:54.080 --> 01:51:03.080]  It is the presumption that the citation is presented under oath so that it's not necessary for him to go to a notary
[01:51:03.080 --> 01:51:08.080]  and have the notary verify every citation.
[01:51:08.080 --> 01:51:10.080]  They did that for convenience.
[01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:14.080]  So when he presents it to the court, it's presented under oath.
[01:51:14.080 --> 01:51:19.080]  That's a separate violation of aggravated perjury.
[01:51:19.080 --> 01:51:24.080]  So you get to charge them both.
[01:51:24.080 --> 01:51:25.080]  And that's a lot more fun.
[01:51:25.080 --> 01:51:28.080]  He charges you with a class C menstameter.
[01:51:28.080 --> 01:51:30.080]  You charge him with two felonies.
[01:51:30.080 --> 01:51:33.080]  Let's dance, Bubba.
[01:51:33.080 --> 01:51:34.080]  All right.
[01:51:34.080 --> 01:51:35.080]  That was my question.
[01:51:35.080 --> 01:51:36.080]  Thank you.
[01:51:36.080 --> 01:51:37.080]  You're welcome.
[01:51:37.080 --> 01:51:38.080]  You have a good night.
[01:51:38.080 --> 01:51:40.080]  Okay, but make sure you read the statute.
[01:51:40.080 --> 01:51:41.080]  Yeah, of course.
[01:51:41.080 --> 01:51:43.080]  I will look that up tomorrow.
[01:51:43.080 --> 01:51:44.080]  All right.
[01:51:43.080 --> 01:51:49.080]  Make sure you don't read it in the courtroom because you'll laugh out loud in the courtroom and you may get condemned to court.
[01:51:49.080 --> 01:51:50.080]  Okay.
[01:51:50.080 --> 01:51:51.080]  Okay.
[01:51:51.080 --> 01:51:52.080]  Thanks, Ruben.
[01:51:52.080 --> 01:51:53.080]  Thank you very much.
[01:51:53.080 --> 01:51:54.080]  Okay.
[01:51:54.080 --> 01:51:58.080]  We're going to go now to Rodney in Texas who's been waiting for quite a while.
[01:51:58.080 --> 01:51:59.080]  Rodney, thanks for holding.
[01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:00.080]  Thanks for being so patient.
[01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:01.080]  What's on your mind?
[01:52:01.080 --> 01:52:03.080]  Well, first of all, thank you.
[01:52:03.080 --> 01:52:04.080]  Good evening, guys.
[01:52:04.080 --> 01:52:26.080]  I was listening last night and you guys touched on an issue that I'm kind of being troubled with right now, and that is the attorney general not being involved in private lawsuits with private citizens.
[01:52:26.080 --> 01:52:46.080]  I might be using the correct language, but I did a little research on that and I went to the official website of the attorney general right there with the Abbott's picture and whatnot, and we got some information there even from his own weekly newsletter where he
[01:52:46.080 --> 01:53:03.080]  himself says that he's not allowed to get involved in lawsuits where, you know, it's a private matter or a private individual that they're only supposed to represent state agencies, however.
[01:53:03.080 --> 01:53:05.080]  There is a carry-up to that.
[01:53:05.080 --> 01:53:07.080]  Yes, however.
[01:53:07.080 --> 01:53:16.080]  Randy, about a month and a half ago you gave me some real big legal strategy that I used.
[01:53:16.080 --> 01:53:30.080]  I was being hassled by this hearing officer who I felt and still do feel had a conflict of interest over a hearing, and I wanted her disqualified.
[01:53:30.080 --> 01:53:38.080]  You suggested, and rightfully so, that I file in really any court of my choice.
[01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:44.080]  I decided to do it in a J.P. court, lawsuit against her.
[01:53:44.080 --> 01:53:59.080]  She was served, and now she's jumping up and down screaming that she's a sovereign immunity.
[01:53:59.080 --> 01:54:04.080]  Plus, she went out and she hired an assistant attorney.
[01:54:04.080 --> 01:54:13.080]  She's not hired, but she has at her service an assistant attorney general representing her.
[01:54:13.080 --> 01:54:21.080]  Can you please help me to understand how in the world Abbott says this is not supposed to happen.
[01:54:21.080 --> 01:54:22.080]  Okay, wait.
[01:54:22.080 --> 01:54:24.080]  Hold on here.
[01:54:24.080 --> 01:54:26.080]  Bring me up to speed.
[01:54:26.080 --> 01:54:32.080]  Okay, because for me, I hear this and I say, wait a minute, wait a minute, there's a problem here.
[01:54:32.080 --> 01:54:48.080]  An attorney general, the only time the attorney general has original jurisdiction in a prosecution is a criminal complaint against a prosecuting attorney for violating the Open Records Act.
[01:54:48.080 --> 01:54:58.080]  Otherwise, there's only two times the attorney general has authority in child support,
[01:54:58.080 --> 01:55:21.080]  or when he is requested by a district attorney to assist in a prosecution, in which case he does not act as an attorney general, but rather as an assistant district attorney to assist a district attorney in a prosecution.
[01:55:21.080 --> 01:55:29.080]  So in that case, he doesn't act under his authority, but under the district attorney's authority.
[01:55:29.080 --> 01:55:43.080]  So if you file suit against an individual public official, normally the county attorney, if the person is sued in his official capacity,
[01:55:43.080 --> 01:55:59.080]  the county attorney would be the one that would defend and not the district, but if you are sued claiming that the individual acted outside the scope of his authority,
[01:55:59.080 --> 01:56:23.080]  then the individual doesn't have a right to be represented by the county attorney, the attorney general, or any other publicly funded attorney until such time as the individual gets an adjudication that determines that the person was acting under official authority.
[01:56:23.080 --> 01:56:41.080]  And we just cross-complained against the county attorney in Travis County for exactly that reason, because the county attorney answered a cross-complaint against a justice of the peace.
[01:56:41.080 --> 01:56:46.080]  We claim the justice of the peace had no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:56:46.080 --> 01:57:02.080]  Without subject matter jurisdiction, you have no immunity. So until the judge demonstrated that he had subject matter jurisdiction, the county attorney was stopped from representing him and expending county funds to do that.
[01:57:02.080 --> 01:57:20.080]  So if you sued a public official claiming that he acted outside the scope of his authority, until he proves up that he acted within scope, he's on his own. Does that make sense?
[01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:41.080]  Everything that you said, I followed, and this official hasn't proved up anything. We're in small claims court. They filed an answer, or she had an assistant attorney general file her answer for her.
[01:57:41.080 --> 01:57:54.080]  And it's like they care less about anything that you just pointed out. By the way, I have read everything that you just stated.
[01:57:54.080 --> 01:58:09.080]  It's right there at the attorney general's website. It's in the Texas State Constitution, Article 4, Section 22, which says everything that you just said about the duties of the attorney general and their limitations.
[01:58:09.080 --> 01:58:23.080]  And yet, I don't understand how this assistant attorney general can come into small claims court and represent this public official who hasn't proved up anything and even file an answer for them.
[01:58:23.080 --> 01:58:29.080]  Cross-complain against the attorney who filed the answer.
[01:58:29.080 --> 01:58:39.080]  Similar thing happened to us. Listen, we've got to go to break. Hang on the line. Quickly, Randy.
[01:58:39.080 --> 01:58:46.080]  Okay, we'll do it when we come back. But you cross-complain against the attorney general. I'll explain that on the other side.
[01:58:46.080 --> 01:59:00.080]  All right, we'll be right back. Hang on the line. We're at the top of the hour. Shirley and Shane, you're next. We'll be right back.
[01:59:00.080 --> 01:59:21.080]  Our right to bear arms is under attack here in Austin. Police Chief Acevedo and his goons need to know we will not allow them to strong-arm private businesses, gun show promoters and vendors, run corrupt sting operations to intimidate legal gun sellers, and cut off public access to purchasing firearms in Austin.
[01:59:21.080 --> 01:59:32.080]  Our city council needs to hold him accountable. This is it, people. It is starting, and we the people are the only ones who are going to do anything about it. If you don't live in Austin and don't help us, stop this here.
[01:59:32.080 --> 01:59:42.080]  Believe it when we say it's coming to a Texas city near you. Monday, January 25th, from 5 to 7 p.m. in front of the Austin Police Department, show up.
[01:59:42.080 --> 01:59:56.080]  715 East 8th Street. Come early, park down the street, and walk. Wear your gun holsters on your hip and shoulder, but instead of a weapon, put the Constitution in it. Bring your friends, your voice, and your signs.
[01:59:56.080 --> 02:00:13.080]  City Council needs to hold him accountable.