ROL_2009-12-03_16k.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:08.520]  The Electronic Frontier Foundation has sued the Pentagon, the Justice Department, and
[00:08.520 --> 00:13.920]  the CIA for refusing to release information about the methods used to spy on social networks
[00:13.920 --> 00:17.880]  such as Facebook, Twitter, and Flickr.
[00:17.880 --> 00:22.800]  Documents obtained recently by the American Civil Liberties Union, Bush White House officials
[00:22.800 --> 00:29.160]  met CIA operatives to discuss the agency's torture tapes that were later destroyed on
[00:29.160 --> 00:35.120]  February 2003, email reveals a meeting was called to discuss how the CIA should respond
[00:35.120 --> 00:42.440]  to a letter from Representative Jane Harman advising the agency to not destroy the tapes.
[00:42.440 --> 00:47.640]  Bank of America plans to repay the entire $45 billion it owes the U.S. Treasury as it
[00:47.640 --> 00:51.120]  aims to move out from under the government's control.
[00:51.120 --> 00:57.240]  The expected move leaves Citigroup as the only major U.S. bank still in hawk to the
[00:57.240 --> 01:01.320]  government.
[01:01.320 --> 01:04.640]  It was the deadliest industrial accident in history.
[01:04.640 --> 01:11.320]  On December 3, 1984, clouds of poisonous gas leaked from a pesticide factory in Bhopal,
[01:11.320 --> 01:14.200]  India killing 4,000 people.
[01:14.200 --> 01:17.360]  Over the next few years, countless more died.
[01:17.360 --> 01:23.880]  25 years later, the factory still leaks toxins into the groundwater and soil.
[01:23.880 --> 01:29.400]  Activists and residents of Bhopal marked the anniversary Thursday with protests for accountability
[01:29.400 --> 01:31.240]  and justice.
[01:31.240 --> 01:36.560]  Conservative estimates hold that 15,000 people died of illnesses caused by the leak within
[01:36.560 --> 01:38.520]  a few years.
[01:38.520 --> 01:42.680]  Activists say the health of at least 200,000 has been damaged.
[01:42.680 --> 01:47.440]  The factory was run by Union Carbide in a joint venture with Indian businesses.
[01:47.440 --> 01:54.760]  20 years ago, Union Carbide paid $470 million to the Indian government for the victims.
[01:54.760 --> 02:00.640]  In 1999, the company was acquired by Dow Chemical, which says the settlement resolved all existing
[02:00.640 --> 02:05.680]  and future claims against the company.
[02:05.680 --> 02:10.400]  Senator Bernard Sanders said Wednesday he would try to block the Senate from confirming
[02:10.400 --> 02:14.880]  Ben Bernanke to a second term as Federal Reserve Chairman.
[02:14.880 --> 02:19.720]  The move is unlikely to derail Bernanke's reappointment, but could buy the Fed's critics
[02:19.720 --> 02:22.360]  time to press their case.
[02:22.360 --> 02:27.880]  It also means Senate Democratic leaders will have to line up 60 votes in favor of Bernanke
[02:27.880 --> 02:32.280]  rather than the simple majority at a time when the Fed is being increasingly attacked
[02:32.280 --> 02:35.240]  by lawmakers on the right and the left.
[02:35.240 --> 02:40.440]  Bernanke will testify Thursday at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Banking Committee.
[02:40.440 --> 02:46.760]  He is expected to face criticism for not doing more to prevent the financial crisis and calls
[02:46.760 --> 02:52.320]  by some lawmakers for a sharply reduced regulatory role in the future.
[02:52.320 --> 02:56.280]  Sanders has frequently accused the Fed of bailing out Wall Street at the expense of
[02:56.280 --> 02:57.280]  ordinary citizens.
[02:57.280 --> 03:02.280]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[03:02.280 --> 03:11.960]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
[03:11.960 --> 03:41.320]  talk radio at its best.
[03:41.960 --> 04:11.760]  All right, bad boys, bad boys.
[04:11.760 --> 04:14.300]  What are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:14.300 --> 04:22.960]  We are coming for you, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, special guest Lou Watson, Deborah Stevens,
[04:22.960 --> 04:28.800]  Sherri Jackson, John Bush, Charles Key.
[04:28.800 --> 04:29.800]  We are not giving in.
[04:29.800 --> 04:36.480]  We're going to do a show on the IRS tonight, tax issues.
[04:36.480 --> 04:40.080]  And we have very special guest Lou Watson who's going to speak on IRS issues.
[04:40.080 --> 04:46.000]  So before we do, I really want to address this Sherri Jackson case.
[04:46.000 --> 04:54.160]  Many of you may have gotten the email concerning her status, her situation, her, she's dying
[04:54.160 --> 04:55.160]  in prison.
[04:55.160 --> 05:01.280]  If folks out there don't know who Sherri Jackson is, excuse me, if folks out there do not know
[05:01.280 --> 05:09.080]  who Sherri Jackson is, she was a former IRS agent who used to prosecute people who were
[05:09.080 --> 05:19.400]  tax protesters until she read the code, read the law and decided that there is no law requiring
[05:19.400 --> 05:20.680]  people to pay taxes.
[05:20.680 --> 05:24.320]  So she stood up for what she believed was right.
[05:24.320 --> 05:27.480]  She decided to stop filing her tax returns.
[05:27.480 --> 05:34.160]  She was interviewed in the documentary, Freedom to Fascism, that was made by Aaron Russo.
[05:34.160 --> 05:39.160]  G. Edward Griffin was also in that documentary.
[05:39.160 --> 05:44.080]  G. Edward Griffin is going to be in town here, by the way, next Thursday.
[05:44.080 --> 05:50.400]  Brave New Books is hosting the event at 1900 University Avenue at the AT&T Executive Conference
[05:50.400 --> 05:53.240]  Center two blocks east of the bookstore.
[05:53.240 --> 05:56.720]  And we are going to be broadcasting live from that event.
[05:56.720 --> 06:02.040]  We are going to broadcast G. Edward Griffin's speech live on the air starting at 7 p.m.
[06:02.040 --> 06:07.360]  We're going to, Tom Kiley has graciously agreed to allow us to preempt his show.
[06:07.360 --> 06:12.920]  He's going to still be with us on the show so that we can broadcast live G. Edward Griffin's
[06:12.920 --> 06:18.400]  talk at this major event here in Austin, Texas.
[06:18.400 --> 06:24.680]  But anyway, back to the IRS situation, Sherri Jackson, she was in the documentary.
[06:24.680 --> 06:27.760]  Randy and I personally know Sherri Jackson.
[06:27.760 --> 06:37.360]  We have met her in person and she is a wonderful woman, full of integrity, full of the spirit.
[06:37.360 --> 06:45.480]  She stands up for what she believes in and she was punished severely for it.
[06:45.480 --> 06:55.400]  And as all of us know, it could just as easily be us inside that prison as her, okay?
[06:55.400 --> 07:00.680]  So we have to stand up for our sister, we have to stand up for our sisters and brothers.
[07:00.680 --> 07:03.960]  We're trying to kill her in prison through neglect.
[07:03.960 --> 07:13.600]  I mean, who knows if they didn't inflict this medical condition on her in the first place.
[07:13.600 --> 07:24.460]  It's been released in declassified documents, FOIAed, that the CIA had the ability to give
[07:24.460 --> 07:30.840]  anyone, any human being, cancer with a penprick, not even a syringe of substances, through
[07:30.840 --> 07:38.140]  a penprick that you couldn't even feel in 1953, people.
[07:38.140 --> 07:42.220]  The government had the ability to give people cancer with a penprick in 1953.
[07:42.220 --> 07:43.880]  So imagine what they could do now.
[07:43.880 --> 07:46.040]  Anyway, I don't want to get into the conjecture.
[07:46.040 --> 07:51.580]  The point is Sherri Jackson has a serious medical condition, she's dying in prison right
[07:51.580 --> 07:53.920]  now and she needs our help.
[07:53.920 --> 07:58.120]  I want, she's being punished for standing up for what she believes in and standing up
[07:58.120 --> 08:04.260]  for the truth, standing up for the law, standing up for the rule of law and we have to stand
[08:04.260 --> 08:06.300]  by our fellow patriots.
[08:06.300 --> 08:13.280]  So I want to just take a few moments here to read this letter that she wrote from prison
[08:13.280 --> 08:21.380]  a few days ago to her congressman, her state representative in treating for help.
[08:21.380 --> 08:28.080]  So if you will bear with me here, she's in federal prison in Florida.
[08:28.080 --> 08:34.480]  She writes this letter to her congressman, Congressman Johnson, Hank Johnson.
[08:34.480 --> 08:39.100]  All right, so here it goes.
[08:39.100 --> 08:42.280]  I am Sherri Peale Jackson, your former CPA.
[08:42.280 --> 08:46.440]  I'm writing you because I'm concerned about my health and my life.
[08:46.440 --> 08:52.280]  Prior to becoming a political prisoner, I was the picture of health in late June, all
[08:52.280 --> 08:54.200]  right, hold on, let me stop, let me back up.
[08:54.200 --> 09:01.200]  Sherri Jackson was convicted on four counts of willful failure to file tax returns.
[09:01.200 --> 09:05.120]  She was sentenced in February of 2008 for four years.
[09:05.120 --> 09:08.960]  All right, so now it's November 2009.
[09:08.960 --> 09:15.040]  She's been in prison for a year and a half and at this rate, she's not going to make
[09:15.040 --> 09:17.760]  it alive in the four years.
[09:17.760 --> 09:21.720]  Okay, so I just wanted to give you guys a timeline here.
[09:21.720 --> 09:24.920]  Okay, let me continue.
[09:24.920 --> 09:31.080]  In late June 2009, I started experiencing a rapid heartbeat on an irregular basis.
[09:31.080 --> 09:40.000]  Since this had happened infrequently in the past, I did not think much of it.
[09:40.000 --> 09:44.000]  I'm sorry, hold on one moment, okay, I did not think much of it.
[09:44.000 --> 09:50.280]  I did, in mid July, it started happening on a regular basis and I became concerned.
[09:50.280 --> 09:55.920]  I went to the medical staff twice in mid July, only to be given a one minute EKG and powerful
[09:55.920 --> 09:58.360]  meds without proper diagnosis.
[09:58.360 --> 10:02.880]  I did not take them because I had not been seen by a specialist.
[10:02.880 --> 10:08.920]  One week later, on July 21st at 1245, I felt I left the dorm in flip flops to go tell the
[10:08.920 --> 10:11.760]  officers that I was having a heart attack.
[10:11.760 --> 10:16.240]  The officers on duty called the ambulance and the ambulance checked my heart on their
[10:16.240 --> 10:18.120]  portable EKG.
[10:18.120 --> 10:21.520]  It was beating at 150 beats per minute.
[10:21.520 --> 10:27.600]  They took me to Leesburg Hospital where I remained until Friday, July 24th at 1130 p.m.
[10:27.600 --> 10:31.480]  During the hospital stay, it was determined my heart was healthy but that my thyroid was
[10:31.480 --> 10:35.120]  producing too much hormone speeding up my heart.
[10:35.120 --> 10:38.480]  This is called hyperthyroidism or Gray's disease.
[10:38.480 --> 10:45.760]  I was given two medications by the hospital, mezzol, which is an anti-thyroid agent used
[10:45.760 --> 10:51.160]  to reduce the amount of thyroid hormone produced by the body, and metaprolol, which is a beta
[10:51.160 --> 10:53.040]  blocker used to slow the heart.
[10:53.040 --> 10:59.440]  The hospital doctor told me that in four weeks, approximately August 21st, the prison medical
[10:59.440 --> 11:05.160]  unit was to do blood tests to determine how the thyroid medication was affecting my body.
[11:05.160 --> 11:09.480]  The blood test was taken in late August and I was told that I would be placed on appointment
[11:09.480 --> 11:11.800]  schedule to come over and review the results.
[11:11.800 --> 11:14.520]  I was never called.
[11:14.520 --> 11:20.680]  I went over in early September and inquired of Dr. De Leon as to how to get blood test
[11:20.680 --> 11:21.680]  results.
[11:21.680 --> 11:27.760]  He told me to put in a request to staff, so I did that on September 15th.
[11:27.760 --> 11:31.440]  It simply asked me to see the results of the test.
[11:31.440 --> 11:36.520]  Sometime after September 23rd, I received a response in writing from Ms. Marich that
[11:36.520 --> 11:41.240]  stated I could either make a sick call, come over early in the morning, wait in line and
[11:41.240 --> 11:45.080]  fill out forms, or come to Open House to see the results.
[11:45.080 --> 11:49.240]  Open House is held only on Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 3.30 p.m.
[11:49.240 --> 11:53.900]  I went to Open House Thursday, September 30th and was told by Ms. Marich that she could
[11:53.900 --> 11:55.560]  not find the results.
[11:55.560 --> 12:00.640]  I watched her look through and around several piles of folders in her office, but at no
[12:00.640 --> 12:03.160]  time did she look on the computer for them.
[12:03.160 --> 12:05.520]  She told me to check back later.
[12:05.520 --> 12:13.200]  On Wednesday, October 28th, I passed out around 4 p.m. and was taken to medical and cleared.
[12:13.200 --> 12:21.160]  On Friday, October 30th, my lips started turning black as if I had been a lifelong smoker.
[12:21.160 --> 12:24.980]  By Sunday, November 1st, my lips were fully black.
[12:24.980 --> 12:30.800]  My boss, the chaplain, called medical and a male nurse was sent over from the medium
[12:30.800 --> 12:33.680]  security men's prison on this complex.
[12:33.680 --> 12:38.920]  There are two maximum security, one medium and one low, men's prisons on this complex
[12:38.920 --> 12:40.560]  with the women's camp.
[12:40.560 --> 12:44.840]  He took my blood pressure and oxygen and said there was nothing else he could do.
[12:44.840 --> 12:49.560]  He told me to go to sick call Monday morning, which I did.
[12:49.560 --> 12:54.280]  I showed Mr. Cucho my lips and told him there was something wrong with my blood.
[12:54.280 --> 12:56.960]  I could tell.
[12:56.960 --> 13:00.280]  I am leaving out gross details here.
[13:00.280 --> 13:05.880]  He said I would be put and, okay, let me, Sherry said I am leaving out gross details
[13:05.880 --> 13:06.880]  here.
[13:06.880 --> 13:07.880]  Deborah Stevens is not saying that.
[13:07.880 --> 13:08.880]  That's in her letter.
[13:08.880 --> 13:09.880]  All right.
[13:09.880 --> 13:10.880]  Let me continue.
[13:10.880 --> 13:12.480]  He said I would be put on the schedule.
[13:12.480 --> 13:16.680]  However, the very next day, Tuesday morning, November 3rd, I found blood in my stool, so
[13:16.680 --> 13:22.600]  I rushed over to medical because I am smart enough to know that this is a major problem.
[13:22.600 --> 13:28.080]  I was chewed out for coming over to medical without a staff member telling me to come.
[13:28.080 --> 13:32.880]  I told Charlie, the female nurse, and Mr. Cucho, the PA, that I was in the hospital
[13:32.880 --> 13:39.680]  in July, never got the blood work results and that something was terribly wrong.
[13:39.680 --> 13:42.560]  I am 46 years old and I know my body.
[13:42.560 --> 13:47.840]  I finally convinced them that I was not playing and was not stupid, so they quote treated
[13:47.840 --> 13:50.480]  me with a packet for a stool sample test.
[13:50.480 --> 13:56.640]  Mr. Cucho looked on the computer for the blood test results from August and found them there.
[13:56.640 --> 14:01.560]  The blood test showed a problem with the thyroid way back then.
[14:01.560 --> 14:06.280]  He said I would be put on schedule for new blood work later that week because these results
[14:06.280 --> 14:07.440]  were too old.
[14:07.440 --> 14:12.440]  He had short conversation with Dr. De Leon in Spanish and then said the thyroid count
[14:12.440 --> 14:13.440]  was off.
[14:13.440 --> 14:14.720]  This was November 3rd.
[14:14.720 --> 14:19.920]  I administered the stool test and returned him to nurse Charlie on Friday, November 6th.
[14:19.920 --> 14:22.240]  Today is November 26th, Thanksgiving.
[14:22.240 --> 14:25.040]  I have not received the results of the stool test.
[14:25.040 --> 14:27.260]  I have not been given any new blood tests.
[14:27.260 --> 14:31.200]  My neck is swelling up like a blowfish and I'm having trouble talking.
[14:31.200 --> 14:34.040]  I have been feeling very ill for the last two weeks.
[14:34.040 --> 14:37.520]  Congressman, I do not want them to kill me in here.
[14:37.520 --> 14:41.320]  As you well know, I'm being punished for exposing government fraud.
[14:41.320 --> 14:46.520]  However, millions of people don't file tax returns and I was just used as an example
[14:46.520 --> 14:52.280]  by the Department of Justice for their new program called the Tax to Fires Initiative.
[14:52.280 --> 14:54.920]  I have a wonderful husband and two beautiful children.
[14:54.920 --> 14:59.560]  I've already spent 21 months in prison for a non-crime and I refuse to come out dead
[14:59.560 --> 15:00.560]  or maimed for life.
[15:00.560 --> 15:03.440]  I have not caused these people any problems.
[15:03.440 --> 15:06.720]  This is no threat but just for your information.
[15:06.720 --> 15:09.040]  I also wrote the warden today.
[15:09.040 --> 15:14.480]  Things can't go on this way as I languish in here for someone's political gain.
[15:14.480 --> 15:18.920]  God doesn't like ugly and he is the ultimate judge and vindicator.
[15:18.920 --> 15:30.040]  Sherry Peel Jackson, 59085-019, FCI Coleman Medium, Federal Correctional Institution,
[15:30.040 --> 15:35.840]  P.O. Box 1032, Coleman, Florida, 33521.
[15:35.840 --> 15:47.800]  Okay, folks, that's what's going on with Sherry Jackson and let me tell you what.
[15:47.800 --> 15:52.720]  These rogues will stop at nothing to punish anyone that gets in their way.
[15:52.720 --> 15:59.200]  If you don't know the story of George Hanson, Congressman George Hanson back in the 60s
[15:59.200 --> 16:06.840]  who was dieseled for years, a congressman set up for similar issues for speaking out
[16:06.840 --> 16:09.360]  against tyranny like this.
[16:09.360 --> 16:16.560]  He was disappeared into the federal prison system and even the Supreme Court ordered
[16:16.560 --> 16:23.000]  their own marshals to bring him to the courts and they said they couldn't find him.
[16:23.000 --> 16:32.200]  It took six months to find Congressman George Hanson.
[16:32.200 --> 16:33.200]  This is back in the 60s.
[16:33.200 --> 16:34.800]  We finally made it out alive.
[16:34.800 --> 16:37.000]  We've got to help Sherry Jackson.
[16:37.000 --> 16:45.000]  All right, when we come back, we're going to take Randy, Eddie and Lou's comments on
[16:45.000 --> 16:46.000]  this issue.
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[18:30.320 --> 18:56.320]  Okay, look what we get.
[18:56.320 --> 19:00.480]  We asked the questions and they don't give us the answers.
[19:00.480 --> 19:03.920]  This is the story of Sherry Jackson.
[19:03.920 --> 19:07.280]  Randy, everyone has comments here.
[19:07.280 --> 19:08.280]  Randy wants to go first.
[19:08.280 --> 19:09.280]  Go ahead, Randy.
[19:09.280 --> 19:10.280]  Yes.
[19:10.280 --> 19:16.440]  I read this earlier today and I was trying to figure out what's the best way to get some
[19:16.440 --> 19:17.440]  action.
[19:17.440 --> 19:23.000]  Now, I've gotten action before and I will do this Monday where I call in and told them
[19:23.000 --> 19:32.440]  I was a reporter, a radio show host, and I called up to Minnesota and told the judge's
[19:32.440 --> 19:37.740]  clerk that I hear a judge there is trying to murder a woman in court by forcing her
[19:37.740 --> 19:46.400]  to represent herself so that her rich husband will win the contentious divorce and he wouldn't
[19:46.400 --> 19:51.580]  give her a continuous so she could get an attorney, and the clerk said, oh, I don't
[19:51.580 --> 19:52.580]  think that's the case.
[19:52.580 --> 19:53.580]  Oh, I don't care.
[19:53.580 --> 19:54.640]  Heck, this is a great story.
[19:54.640 --> 19:56.960]  You guys are going to make me famous.
[19:56.960 --> 19:59.520]  Monday she got a 90-day continuous.
[19:59.520 --> 20:08.540]  So I'll call down there in the morning and kind of work them over, but what I would like
[20:08.540 --> 20:16.440]  to suggest that anyone out there who cares about Sherry's life, call down and ask about
[20:16.440 --> 20:23.080]  this Dr. Leon, and more people we get to call the better.
[20:23.080 --> 20:30.440]  Find out who he is and we start filing complaints with the American Medical Association against
[20:30.440 --> 20:36.840]  the doctor, accusing him of trying to kill this woman by withholding medical treatment
[20:36.840 --> 20:39.520]  from her.
[20:39.520 --> 20:42.440]  Guarantee you that will get their attention.
[20:42.440 --> 20:46.480]  Well, I agree with you 100%.
[20:46.480 --> 20:53.080]  Something needs to be done because what they're trying to do is to prevent people that have
[20:53.080 --> 21:00.480]  knowledge of the truth from getting the truth out, and in this time that people wake up
[21:00.480 --> 21:07.840]  and remember what you found is for the benefit of those that are serving it.
[21:07.840 --> 21:13.080]  Yeah, and they're also trying to punish people who are actually standing up for something
[21:13.080 --> 21:18.760]  and getting the truth out there, and make an example out of them and try to show us
[21:18.760 --> 21:23.840]  that, see, if you stand up, we're going to do this to you too.
[21:23.840 --> 21:34.460]  Well, you know, lack of knowledge breeds fear, and I think it is incumbent upon everyone
[21:34.460 --> 21:42.640]  to be knowledgeable of the law, to know what the truth is, and not be afraid to speak up.
[21:42.640 --> 21:45.160]  Don't be a couch potato.
[21:45.160 --> 21:47.800]  Let's get out here and do the right thing.
[21:47.800 --> 21:52.920]  Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington said it in the very beginning and
[21:52.920 --> 21:55.560]  found in this country.
[21:55.560 --> 22:06.920]  Not question the government because it is your right, and I think what they're doing
[22:06.920 --> 22:13.800]  with Sherry Jackson is what they do, that they learn what the law really says, and that
[22:13.800 --> 22:19.760]  is to suppress them and keep them from getting the truth out so that people understand what
[22:19.760 --> 22:27.960]  their rights are, what the truth is, because we are a country founded on laws.
[22:27.960 --> 22:35.080]  You know, animals follow their instincts every day, but we have to have laws to control what
[22:35.080 --> 22:36.080]  we do.
[22:36.080 --> 22:42.400]  Now, if the law is there, let's follow it because that law should be your protection.
[22:42.400 --> 22:47.640]  And don't you think for once, by you going into a courtroom, that that court is going
[22:47.640 --> 22:51.280]  to protect your rights because they're not there to do that.
[22:51.280 --> 23:00.320]  They're there to fill their coffers and to go up the ladder to benefit themselves politically
[23:00.320 --> 23:02.240]  and got to stop.
[23:02.240 --> 23:08.520]  Sherry Jackson is a prime example of what we've got to stop in this country.
[23:08.520 --> 23:14.320]  And if we just stop it, then we're no better than a third world country.
[23:14.320 --> 23:18.640]  And I don't want to see this country go that way because I fought for it, I almost died
[23:18.640 --> 23:19.640]  for it.
[23:19.640 --> 23:24.200]  And if you think for once you're going to take the right that I have away from me because
[23:24.200 --> 23:29.720]  of what I fought for, you've got a heck of a fight on your hands.
[23:29.720 --> 23:33.320]  That's what we've got to stand up for.
[23:33.320 --> 23:38.960]  And before we finish the show, I have a prayer that I'm going to read that one of the most
[23:38.960 --> 23:44.760]  marvelous ministers wrote that tells a story like it is.
[23:44.760 --> 23:52.920]  I'm praying for Sherry Jackson, we should all do, and we should step up to the plate
[23:52.920 --> 23:55.480]  and do the right thing to help her.
[23:55.480 --> 23:59.880]  I don't care if I have to sit and write every congressman in this country.
[23:59.880 --> 24:05.320]  I don't care if I have to tell them what we won't vote for the next time they come around
[24:05.320 --> 24:07.940]  if they don't have Sherry Jackson.
[24:07.940 --> 24:10.320]  That's what we've got to do.
[24:10.320 --> 24:16.960]  Folks, listen folks, we have to stand up for Sherry Jackson.
[24:16.960 --> 24:21.120]  Jerry and I were just discussing just now when we were listening to Lou, it could just
[24:21.120 --> 24:27.920]  as easily be me, it could just as easily be Randy, it could just as easily be any one
[24:27.920 --> 24:34.440]  of us in that prison right now, dying from neglect, okay?
[24:34.440 --> 24:39.020]  She is our sister in arms, all right?
[24:39.020 --> 24:41.360]  We have to help her.
[24:41.360 --> 24:42.360]  We have to.
[24:42.360 --> 24:43.360]  I'm sorry.
[24:43.360 --> 24:44.360]  Go ahead folks.
[24:44.360 --> 24:51.640]  I just got an email from a nurse friend of mine, and what she's saying is that you can
[24:51.640 --> 25:00.760]  file on the nurses, see complaints against nurses go further as the doctors are shielded
[25:00.760 --> 25:05.040]  and the nurses are generally held more accountable than doctors.
[25:05.040 --> 25:14.360]  Let's see, back up to denying treatment or information about her results, they can have
[25:14.360 --> 25:20.560]  a complaint filed against them with the nursing board of the state and ask for doctors.
[25:20.560 --> 25:27.020]  Now I have a friend who's a psychologist here in Austin, and he had an altercation with
[25:27.020 --> 25:32.900]  someone who stole a bunch of money from him, and the guy threatened to file a complaint
[25:32.900 --> 25:42.040]  against him, and that was really serious business because just the fact that the complaint is
[25:42.040 --> 25:46.680]  filed paints your career.
[25:46.680 --> 25:51.440]  So we have a doctor, I suspect he's a doctor in a prison because he can't make it in the
[25:51.440 --> 25:56.560]  hospital, but even so he probably already has a few complaints, so a couple more may
[25:56.560 --> 26:04.640]  end his career, and if we can get everybody out here listening filing complaints, that
[26:04.640 --> 26:07.600]  will get their attention.
[26:07.600 --> 26:13.680]  We probably won't do any good with the warden because they feel like they're protected.
[26:13.680 --> 26:18.760]  The guys down on the bottom don't, and we start going after them and ending their careers,
[26:18.760 --> 26:20.240]  they'll get a lot more careful.
[26:20.240 --> 26:29.240]  Now I again read this letter as it was being read, and this is total neglect, this is purposely
[26:29.240 --> 26:36.160]  done, and it would be different if it was done out of lack of knowledge of her situation,
[26:36.160 --> 26:37.160]  but they know her situation.
[26:37.160 --> 26:44.880]  Yes, see that was my point too, they knew, they knew back in August what was going on.
[26:44.880 --> 26:52.960]  I say we go after them for attempted murder through neglect because they knew, this isn't
[26:52.960 --> 26:58.840]  just a matter of mistreatment in a prison, they knew, they knew and they did nothing
[26:58.840 --> 27:08.400]  about it, in fact they tried to hide the evidence, this is intentional murder through neglect.
[27:08.400 --> 27:12.600]  Well if they can take care of people that harm this country at Gitmo, they can certainly
[27:12.600 --> 27:14.600]  take care of this lady.
[27:14.600 --> 27:19.240]  I think, I think she needs to be released.
[27:19.240 --> 27:21.440]  Yes ma'am.
[27:21.440 --> 27:24.760]  I was just going to ask Eddie for his comments.
[27:24.760 --> 27:26.680]  Believe me, you don't want to hear my comments.
[27:26.680 --> 27:33.680]  Like I say, I'm familiar with the way they do things, it's one of the reasons why I quit
[27:33.680 --> 27:37.840]  being a deputy sheriff because they don't do things like that just at the federal level
[27:37.840 --> 27:44.320]  in some cases, but the fact of the matter is this is a common federal practice, those
[27:44.320 --> 27:50.320]  that are most vocal at exposing what they do are the ones that will suffer the severest
[27:50.320 --> 27:59.040]  once they've got them in their control and that's exactly what they're doing.
[27:59.040 --> 28:05.040]  So we who are not under their control need to go after them.
[28:05.040 --> 28:08.000]  We better before they get us under their control.
[28:08.000 --> 28:14.720]  Yes, with every legal means we have available and we have considerable, we start going after
[28:14.720 --> 28:20.040]  the doctors and nurses, we're going to get their attention and then when the higher ups
[28:20.040 --> 28:24.440]  instruct them they're going to tell the higher ups, yeah you try that Bubba, they're going
[28:24.440 --> 28:27.120]  to get me put in jail for it and end my career.
[28:27.120 --> 28:32.840]  Okay, well Randy I think that that is a very good strategy, but I want to keep in mind
[28:32.840 --> 28:40.760]  here our sister may die within days, okay.
[28:40.760 --> 28:46.360]  We have to, do we need to file some kind of injunction, a petition for an injunction for
[28:46.360 --> 28:51.040]  immediate medical treatment or something, I mean we obviously need to make this into
[28:51.040 --> 28:57.440]  a political issue, you know, and jump up and down about it and get the politicians involved
[28:57.440 --> 29:04.720]  and the medical board and all these things, but what can we do to force the hand of the
[29:04.720 --> 29:13.560]  system to extract her from this death situation and give her medical treatment.
[29:13.560 --> 29:18.040]  We need a court injunction here or something, I mean help, what do we need to do to get
[29:18.040 --> 29:22.520]  her her medical treatment right now?
[29:22.520 --> 29:25.120]  Don't know yet, I have to research.
[29:25.120 --> 29:30.800]  This is a prison system and it's different, they don't, a person in prison doesn't have
[29:30.800 --> 29:34.880]  the same rights, but they certainly have a right to survive the prisons in.
[29:34.880 --> 29:41.280]  Yes and remember what I said earlier about Hanson, even the Supreme Court could not get
[29:41.280 --> 29:51.080]  their own US Marshals to bring him before the Supreme Court for months, this is a serious
[29:51.080 --> 29:57.000]  problem, we've got to, we've got to do something, we have to do something, all right, we'll
[29:57.000 --> 30:00.880]  be back in just a moment.
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[30:59.080 --> 31:22.760]  Yeah, Mr. Office, I've been taking you like a hat, won't you follow the law of the land?
[31:22.760 --> 31:51.320]  Yeah, Mr. Office, I've been taking you like a hat, won't you follow the law of the land?
[31:51.320 --> 32:19.880]  Yeah, Mr. Office, I've been taking you like a hat, won't you follow the law of the land?
[32:19.880 --> 32:48.440]  Yeah, Mr. Office, I've been taking you like a hat, won't you follow the law of the land?
[32:48.440 --> 33:11.080]  Okay, Mr. Officer, stop abusing the power, we can't take it anymore, this has got to
[33:11.080 --> 33:15.600]  stop, we're not going to, we can't handle it, it's not going to happen anymore, Eddie,
[33:15.600 --> 33:20.960]  you were saying that this is why you want to run for sheriff because you've seen this
[33:20.960 --> 33:25.760]  kind of thing in your experience in law enforcement.
[33:25.760 --> 33:32.240]  Yeah, it's, you know, I'm fully aware of the sheriff is most assuredly the most powerful
[33:32.240 --> 33:37.400]  law enforcement individual in his county and that he has the power and authority to block
[33:37.400 --> 33:41.760]  the federal government from coming into the county and exercising any authority there
[33:41.760 --> 33:42.760]  whatsoever.
[33:42.760 --> 33:50.840]  I plan, as I said before, when I discuss this, my plan is to turn this back into a Mayberry
[33:50.840 --> 33:52.840]  style event.
[33:52.840 --> 33:57.880]  Basically I am going to know the people of my county, they're going to know me because
[33:57.880 --> 34:03.240]  my success at doing what needs to be done as sheriff is going to be directly related
[34:03.240 --> 34:06.880]  to the people's desire to keep me as sheriff.
[34:06.880 --> 34:13.720]  So by seeing that I'm there to serve them and not the whims of a few that want to rule
[34:13.720 --> 34:19.280]  over them, then I think I stand a much better chance of getting the support I need to do
[34:19.280 --> 34:21.120]  the things that need to be done.
[34:21.120 --> 34:22.120]  Lou?
[34:22.120 --> 34:27.120]  Well, I'll tell you one thing, you have my support because I understand exactly where
[34:27.120 --> 34:32.280]  you're coming from and that's what is not being done.
[34:32.280 --> 34:38.520]  The sheriffs across this country are not standing up and utilizing the authority that they have.
[34:38.520 --> 34:42.440]  They're letting the federal government come in and dictate to them.
[34:42.440 --> 34:48.320]  Jurisdiction, and that's the one thing that nobody wants the scene to stand up for is
[34:48.320 --> 34:58.280]  that they do not have jurisdiction in the counties of this state.
[34:58.280 --> 35:01.320]  That's exactly the way I intend to treat it too.
[35:01.320 --> 35:03.040]  You would be absolutely right.
[35:03.040 --> 35:09.280]  You know, I was in California in law enforcement and whenever the internal revenue would come
[35:09.280 --> 35:16.120]  in and want to see someone's property, the first words out of my mouth is number one,
[35:16.120 --> 35:19.600]  do you have a court order?
[35:19.600 --> 35:21.920]  Number two, you do not have jurisdiction.
[35:21.920 --> 35:26.720]  Have you gone through the sheriff's department to get authorization to be here?
[35:26.720 --> 35:33.120]  Now, if you don't have those two things, there will be no seizure of any property.
[35:33.120 --> 35:39.320]  Yes, Lou, we wanted to ask you, how did you get, can you give us a little background on
[35:39.320 --> 35:43.000]  how you got into this movement in the first place?
[35:43.000 --> 35:44.000]  What inspired you?
[35:44.000 --> 35:49.360]  Was there some event to get you into battling the IRS and these things?
[35:49.360 --> 35:53.280]  Can you just give us a little background and let us know what is going on with you and
[35:53.280 --> 35:55.840]  the court cases you've won and these kinds of things?
[35:55.840 --> 36:00.080]  The thing that got me into this, I was the vice president of an electronics company here
[36:00.080 --> 36:01.560]  in Texas.
[36:01.560 --> 36:03.600]  They sold that company and moved me to Colorado.
[36:03.600 --> 36:08.440]  While I was in Colorado, we manufactured electronic total stations.
[36:08.440 --> 36:12.000]  This is after getting out of law enforcement.
[36:12.000 --> 36:14.440]  I went to New York to sell a couple of instruments.
[36:14.440 --> 36:20.360]  I come back and the internal revenue had locked the doors to the business.
[36:20.360 --> 36:27.160]  The thing that bothered me was that all of these people now don't have a job.
[36:27.160 --> 36:35.240]  I got thinking, wait a minute, where is the due process in all of this?
[36:35.240 --> 36:43.640]  What gave them the authority to come into a privately owned business, shut it down and
[36:43.640 --> 36:48.160]  treat everyone like they had that authority?
[36:48.160 --> 36:53.840]  What it made me do after being in law enforcement, I knew number one, I can't seize anything
[36:53.840 --> 37:00.840]  unless I do an affidavit, the court approves it, I have a court order to seize the property.
[37:00.840 --> 37:01.840]  That was none of that.
[37:01.840 --> 37:09.600]  I decided I'm going to start studying the law and that's what I started doing.
[37:09.600 --> 37:17.320]  The more I studied, the more I came up confirming what I already knew.
[37:17.320 --> 37:27.080]  To give you an example, if I look at Title 28, Section 3201, United States Code, the
[37:27.080 --> 37:30.920]  state has jurisdiction.
[37:30.920 --> 37:36.080]  Everything should be done through the state court because the status of the property is
[37:36.080 --> 37:39.080]  in the state.
[37:39.080 --> 37:48.120]  Under Title 28, Section 3201, it says there has to be a civil hearing, an abstract of
[37:48.120 --> 37:55.600]  judgment has to be issued to comply with paragraphs one and two of Section 6323F of the Internal
[37:55.600 --> 37:59.680]  Revenue Code of 1986.
[37:59.680 --> 38:05.040]  That told me there they have to get a court order.
[38:05.040 --> 38:11.840]  Then I started studying what our county clerks were doing and I met with the commissioners
[38:11.840 --> 38:19.400]  here, showing them that the county clerks are committing security fraud by taking a
[38:19.400 --> 38:28.680]  notice of levy which has no court order with it and they file it in a lien index.
[38:28.680 --> 38:34.440]  By filing it in a lien index, they're giving it authority of something that it doesn't
[38:34.440 --> 38:35.440]  have.
[38:35.440 --> 38:42.600]  Now, they're saying that a notice of lien is a lien when it isn't because there is
[38:42.600 --> 38:45.640]  no court order attached to that notice of levy.
[38:45.640 --> 38:52.320]  What I did is I put together a procedure that I presented to the county commissioners on
[38:52.320 --> 38:58.360]  how the county clerks, for the procedure they should use before they file a notice of levy
[38:58.360 --> 39:06.720]  in a lien index and they've ignored me, but I'm not through with them.
[39:06.720 --> 39:11.160]  I still have a copy of that and Randy, I'll give you a copy of what I presented to them
[39:11.160 --> 39:13.560]  and it is thorough.
[39:13.560 --> 39:16.480]  The other thing that bothered me too is this.
[39:16.480 --> 39:25.220]  No one, not attorneys, never in a courtroom challenge jurisdiction.
[39:25.220 --> 39:29.080]  They go ahead and go along with it.
[39:29.080 --> 39:34.040]  You see, the code, Title 26 is the Internal Revenue Code.
[39:34.040 --> 39:39.000]  It has never been passed as a positive law.
[39:39.000 --> 39:46.720]  Out of the 50 titles of laws that we have in this country, 23 of them have never been
[39:46.720 --> 39:49.160]  passed as positive laws.
[39:49.160 --> 39:50.920]  It is public policy.
[39:50.920 --> 39:54.000]  Public policy is not law.
[39:54.000 --> 39:58.120]  We have judges that legislate the law from the bench.
[39:58.120 --> 39:59.440]  They don't follow the law.
[39:59.440 --> 40:07.520]  They incorrectly tell the juror or advise the jurors on what's what.
[40:07.520 --> 40:13.160]  The key to me is that everyone should study the laws.
[40:13.160 --> 40:19.960]  It's incumbent upon them to understand the laws, question.
[40:19.960 --> 40:25.560]  A judge is a human being and puts his pants on like anybody else does.
[40:25.560 --> 40:28.440]  That doesn't mean he's smarter than you.
[40:28.440 --> 40:32.040]  Attorneys, I found most of them don't know crap.
[40:32.040 --> 40:36.720]  Excuse me for saying it that way, but that's what I found.
[40:36.720 --> 40:40.400]  They sell you down the river.
[40:40.400 --> 40:41.840]  The bottom line is this.
[40:41.840 --> 40:47.640]  If I'm a judge, what I'm going to do is base my decision on the preponderance of evidence
[40:47.640 --> 40:53.280]  that is presented and that evidence has to be based on the law.
[40:53.280 --> 40:58.360]  If it's not based on the law, I'm not going to allow it.
[40:58.360 --> 41:02.920]  The bottom line here is real simple to me.
[41:02.920 --> 41:10.960]  If I'm going to fight this issue, number one, I want jurisdiction challenged and it has
[41:10.960 --> 41:14.040]  to be proven on the record.
[41:14.040 --> 41:21.600]  I want them to produce their authority and I want them to produce the statute at large
[41:21.600 --> 41:25.360]  that makes that individual liable.
[41:25.360 --> 41:29.320]  You will not find it in Title 26.
[41:29.320 --> 41:35.240]  The other thing I got to looking at, because of jurisdiction, when I started looking at
[41:35.240 --> 41:41.120]  Title 4, Section 72, Flag Seals Seed of Government.
[41:41.120 --> 41:45.080]  I'm speaking of the federal government now.
[41:45.080 --> 41:50.200]  Title 4 says that the Flag Seals Seed of Government shall remain in the District of Columbia and
[41:50.200 --> 41:57.360]  not elsewhere unless expressly provided by law.
[41:57.360 --> 42:00.480]  Why is that ignored?
[42:00.480 --> 42:07.000]  Texas never sees its land to the federal government.
[42:07.000 --> 42:11.600]  Now where is your jurisdiction?
[42:11.600 --> 42:13.600]  That is overseen.
[42:13.600 --> 42:18.840]  You submit something into the state district court and they pull it over to the federal
[42:18.840 --> 42:19.840]  court.
[42:19.840 --> 42:24.360]  What authority did they have for doing that?
[42:24.360 --> 42:28.200]  I tell you, this gentleman that's going to run for sheriff, he's got my vote, I'll tell
[42:28.200 --> 42:30.600]  you that.
[42:30.600 --> 42:38.280]  Those laws are there to protect us and they're not following them.
[42:38.280 --> 42:40.120]  They're not obeying the law.
[42:40.120 --> 42:45.000]  The canons of office of a judge are violated every day because I've got all of the canons
[42:45.000 --> 42:48.600]  of law and I study it every day.
[42:48.600 --> 42:52.920]  The bottom line to me is very simple.
[42:52.920 --> 42:57.520]  If you do not have jurisdiction, the court has no jurisdiction.
[42:57.520 --> 43:02.160]  So there is no case to proceed.
[43:02.160 --> 43:06.160]  But that's being violated every day.
[43:06.160 --> 43:12.440]  Notices of lee levies are given to employers and they are taking people's money.
[43:12.440 --> 43:17.400]  They are stealing people's money is what they're doing.
[43:17.400 --> 43:21.480]  And it's time that we stand up and make them face the law.
[43:21.480 --> 43:26.480]  I can assure you of this, if the founding fathers of this country were living today,
[43:26.480 --> 43:30.360]  I know without any doubt in my mind they're turning over in their grave of what's happening
[43:30.360 --> 43:34.480]  to this country that they thought they formed.
[43:34.480 --> 43:39.360]  I'm sure of that and hopefully they're also jumping up and down cheering us on for doing
[43:39.360 --> 43:41.240]  something about it.
[43:41.240 --> 43:48.840]  You know, back then none of the founding fathers they were called patriots, today that's a
[43:48.840 --> 43:49.840]  bad word.
[43:49.840 --> 43:51.440]  It would seem so.
[43:51.440 --> 43:55.400]  Lou, hold that thought because we're going to break, we'll be right back and we'll continue
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[45:21.160 --> 45:50.920]  Alright, Watch the Sparks Fly, yeah it would seem that they're trying to make page the
[45:50.920 --> 45:58.320]  page, the word patron into a bad word these days but it's a beautiful blessing in my book.
[45:58.320 --> 46:04.840]  On the break we're starting to get into the matter of the fact that there is no lean under
[46:04.840 --> 46:05.840]  Title 26.
[46:05.840 --> 46:08.360]  Am I understanding that correctly Lou?
[46:08.360 --> 46:15.400]  You're absolutely right, you see what creates the lean is the court order.
[46:15.400 --> 46:18.080]  Without a court order you have no lean.
[46:18.080 --> 46:24.720]  Okay and not only that we were talking about, I was asking you on the break concerning the
[46:24.720 --> 46:29.760]  issue of the procedure of filing the lean, the federal agents.
[46:29.760 --> 46:36.400]  We have come across some groups or individuals, you know various groups in the legal reform
[46:36.400 --> 46:41.920]  movement who are challenging the IRS and other government entities about this lean issue
[46:41.920 --> 46:48.600]  saying on the basis that they're not following the proper procedure for filing the lean and
[46:48.600 --> 46:55.360]  all the documents are required based on their state statutes but Randy and I had found that
[46:55.360 --> 47:02.520]  there is basically a uniform statute in every state that allows for the federal government
[47:02.520 --> 47:09.080]  and federal government entities to have basically more leniency regarding what they're required
[47:09.080 --> 47:15.800]  to do as far as filing the liens but then Eddie was saying and you guys were saying
[47:15.800 --> 47:20.160]  that none of that matters anyway because if it's a federal lien they have to follow the
[47:20.160 --> 47:22.680]  federal statute and that's what they're not doing.
[47:22.680 --> 47:23.680]  Is that correct?
[47:23.680 --> 47:24.680]  They're not following that.
[47:24.680 --> 47:31.240]  If you look at the federal tax lien registration act, there is where the procedure is and they're
[47:31.240 --> 47:33.280]  not following that.
[47:33.280 --> 47:45.840]  Similarly, Texas in 1997 passed a law, a Texas state tax lien law that prohibits a notice
[47:45.840 --> 47:52.720]  of levy or a notice of lien and what they did in the state law.
[47:52.720 --> 47:57.560]  They pointed the motions that you file in court because I've used them.
[47:57.560 --> 48:03.160]  Yeah, that's government code chapter 51 and it's any lien, it's just a tax lien, it's
[48:03.160 --> 48:04.160]  any lien.
[48:04.160 --> 48:05.160]  It's any lien.
[48:05.160 --> 48:06.160]  You absolutely right now.
[48:06.160 --> 48:07.160]  Wait, any federal lien?
[48:07.160 --> 48:08.160]  That's right.
[48:08.160 --> 48:14.600]  No, any lien that does not have an accompanying court order is invalid in Texas by law.
[48:14.600 --> 48:23.800]  By law and I'm going to send you the entire Texas law that the legislature passed.
[48:23.800 --> 48:29.200]  They did that in order to stop the Republic of Texas from filing the liens for officials.
[48:29.200 --> 48:30.520]  Yes, that's where it started.
[48:30.520 --> 48:33.280]  Now we get to use it back against them.
[48:33.280 --> 48:36.760]  And these federal liens are not exempt from these certain technicalities?
[48:36.760 --> 48:37.760]  No.
[48:37.760 --> 48:38.760]  Okay.
[48:38.760 --> 48:39.760]  No.
[48:39.760 --> 48:40.760]  Now here's the deal though.
[48:40.760 --> 48:45.280]  The judges of Texas don't want to use that law to invalidate the federal liens.
[48:45.280 --> 48:47.280]  Well, I'll tell you what I did.
[48:47.280 --> 48:48.280]  I used it.
[48:48.280 --> 48:52.600]  I did in Bee County.
[48:52.600 --> 48:53.600]  Which county?
[48:53.600 --> 48:56.520]  Bee County down in Beeville, Texas.
[48:56.520 --> 48:57.880]  Okay.
[48:57.880 --> 49:01.240]  And the judge agreed and signed it.
[49:01.240 --> 49:07.840]  And in his statement, he stated, which is in the Texas law, he said there was no judgment
[49:07.840 --> 49:15.720]  on file to substantiate the paperwork that I had attached as exhibits, which were the
[49:15.720 --> 49:17.800]  Notice of Lien and Notice of Levy.
[49:17.800 --> 49:18.800]  Right.
[49:18.800 --> 49:21.240]  Now here's the other thing about that federal law.
[49:21.240 --> 49:28.120]  Now what I'm doing in the other counties is I am filing that same deal and attaching that
[49:28.120 --> 49:37.280]  court's ruling as an appendix A because it had never been done in the state.
[49:37.280 --> 49:38.280]  Right.
[49:38.280 --> 49:42.240]  Well, the other thing about that Notice of Tax Lien from the federal government is you'll
[49:42.240 --> 49:49.320]  notice on the back when it says what the lien's being applied as, it does not start with subsection
[49:49.320 --> 49:50.320]  A.
[49:50.320 --> 49:53.480]  It does start with subsection B as to the reason for the lien.
[49:53.480 --> 49:54.480]  That is correct.
[49:54.480 --> 50:04.360]  Now if you look at Title 26, Section 6331A, it tells you who they can file that lien against.
[50:04.360 --> 50:10.640]  But even if I was a government employee, I have to agree to that.
[50:10.640 --> 50:12.160]  Yep.
[50:12.160 --> 50:16.760]  I have a cousin that works for the federal government and I ask her this question.
[50:16.760 --> 50:22.160]  If they, the Internal Revenue, file a Notice of Lien against you to seize your money, can
[50:22.160 --> 50:24.760]  they just file the lien and take your money?
[50:24.760 --> 50:29.960]  She says, no, I have to agree to it.
[50:29.960 --> 50:34.960]  And there has to be a court order attached to that Notice of Lien.
[50:34.960 --> 50:38.920]  Without a court order, it is not a lien.
[50:38.920 --> 50:43.040]  I don't care what state you're in.
[50:43.040 --> 50:48.800]  The point is, a lien is not something you can hold in your hand or touch or look at.
[50:48.800 --> 50:49.800]  That's correct.
[50:49.800 --> 50:52.520]  It's something that exists as a matter of law.
[50:52.520 --> 50:53.520]  That is right.
[50:53.520 --> 50:59.440]  What the agent files is notice of the existence of that lien.
[50:59.440 --> 51:01.720]  And there is no existence of it.
[51:01.720 --> 51:04.360]  There never was one in the first place, so there was a lien.
[51:04.360 --> 51:05.840]  That is correct.
[51:05.840 --> 51:12.160]  The only existence comes, the existence of a lien comes about when the court issues the
[51:12.160 --> 51:15.280]  abstract of judgment and then the lien.
[51:15.280 --> 51:21.680]  Now, to enforce that lien, even though you got a court order, to enforce that lien, you
[51:21.680 --> 51:29.760]  got to go back to court to enforce it.
[51:29.760 --> 51:36.840]  And this is what happens to it and it's because nobody knows and everybody's afraid to do
[51:36.840 --> 51:37.840]  something about it.
[51:37.840 --> 51:47.440]  But Lou, when the IRS and these other federal entities file these notices of liens that
[51:47.440 --> 51:51.680]  are totally fraudulent, they don't go to court to enforce them.
[51:51.680 --> 51:54.920]  They just come and take your stuff.
[51:54.920 --> 51:55.920]  That's right.
[51:55.920 --> 51:57.920]  And that's why the sheriff comes in.
[51:57.920 --> 52:01.920]  But the sheriff does it, so what are we supposed to do?
[52:01.920 --> 52:04.680]  That's because we have the wrong kinds of sheriffs.
[52:04.680 --> 52:05.680]  That is correct.
[52:05.680 --> 52:10.160]  That's got the wrong kind of sheriff.
[52:10.160 --> 52:13.520]  You know what the word sheriff means?
[52:13.520 --> 52:18.000]  It means protector.
[52:18.000 --> 52:22.200]  And that's what a sheriff should be for the citizens of the county that he is in.
[52:22.200 --> 52:24.800]  He is there to protect them.
[52:24.800 --> 52:31.900]  Now, granted, if they violate a law, he's there to enforce it also.
[52:31.900 --> 52:39.680]  But remember this, if I were to arrest you for violating a law, here's where due process
[52:39.680 --> 52:42.880]  starts.
[52:42.880 --> 52:46.320]  You got to know what law you violated.
[52:46.320 --> 52:50.200]  If you don't know the law that you violated, how can you defend yourself?
[52:50.200 --> 52:55.680]  Okay, Lou, I'm glad you brought that up because I want to ask you something here.
[52:55.680 --> 53:03.400]  Entities like the IRS and the FCC, which we're having to deal with right now, have been given
[53:03.400 --> 53:11.720]  quasi adjudicatory authority, administrative adjudicatory authority under statute by the
[53:11.720 --> 53:13.840]  US legislature.
[53:13.840 --> 53:21.040]  And so they come up with their own administrative rulings, which carry as much weight as a ruling
[53:21.040 --> 53:23.800]  in a federal circuit court.
[53:23.800 --> 53:31.480]  And so how do you deal with that then when these administrative rulings come down?
[53:31.480 --> 53:35.880]  Because when you try to appeal within their administrative process, of course, they're
[53:35.880 --> 53:36.880]  never going to listen to you.
[53:36.880 --> 53:38.360]  They're going to do whatever they want.
[53:38.360 --> 53:41.180]  Then go after them.
[53:41.180 --> 53:45.640]  But then what they end up doing, see, this is the crux of the issue here that Randy
[53:45.640 --> 53:50.320]  and I have been discussing for the last couple of days regarding these administrative rulings,
[53:50.320 --> 53:54.960]  final orders by entities like the IRS and the FCC, okay?
[53:54.960 --> 54:05.200]  They enforce their final orders before they go to federal courts to get an order from
[54:05.200 --> 54:10.440]  the court and the US marshal service and all these kinds of things.
[54:10.440 --> 54:19.120]  So how do you fight these rulings of these administrative bodies at that federal level
[54:19.120 --> 54:21.640]  or do you fight it at the local level?
[54:21.640 --> 54:28.200]  And how do you appeal in order of these administrative bodies when the order hasn't even been filed
[54:28.200 --> 54:30.480]  to be enforced yet with the federal court?
[54:30.480 --> 54:33.040]  I'm not a citizen of the United States.
[54:33.040 --> 54:36.800]  I am a citizen of the Republic of Texas.
[54:36.800 --> 54:39.520]  That's where the jurisdiction is for me.
[54:39.520 --> 54:40.520]  Yeah.
[54:40.520 --> 54:43.680]  And the other issue here is division of powers.
[54:43.680 --> 54:44.680]  That's right.
[54:44.680 --> 54:49.080]  They cannot instill a judicial function in an executive branch.
[54:49.080 --> 54:50.080]  That is correct.
[54:50.080 --> 54:51.080]  Okay.
[54:51.080 --> 54:55.040]  So we can go after it on division of powers doctrine alone and give it in that respect.
[54:55.040 --> 54:57.920]  I've been trying to get people to understand that for years.
[54:57.920 --> 55:03.840]  The IRS cannot have a judicial side because it's an executive branch office.
[55:03.840 --> 55:04.840]  Well then, now you're talking-
[55:04.840 --> 55:06.880]  So, more or less speaking, it's a treasury office.
[55:06.880 --> 55:07.880]  So it is executive.
[55:07.880 --> 55:14.160]  Well, now you're talking about abolishing the whole FCC altogether and the IRS too based
[55:14.160 --> 55:15.160]  on that and-
[55:15.160 --> 55:16.160]  What do we need them for?
[55:16.160 --> 55:20.000]  Well, I agree, but I don't see how the courts are going to grant us that.
[55:20.000 --> 55:21.000]  Well, it does-
[55:21.000 --> 55:26.160]  I'm not saying that about abolishing them, but they certainly cannot hold a judicial
[55:26.160 --> 55:27.640]  review of anything.
[55:27.640 --> 55:34.440]  Well, see, I'm not so concerned about their own administrative internal quasi-judicial
[55:34.440 --> 55:35.440]  reviews.
[55:35.440 --> 55:39.080]  I'm concerned about their own enforcement of such-
[55:39.080 --> 55:43.040]  Let me- wait, let's stop here one minute.
[55:43.040 --> 55:45.480]  Stop here one minute.
[55:45.480 --> 55:49.200]  Take the internal revenue for an example.
[55:49.200 --> 55:55.280]  What jurisdiction does the internal revenue have over you?
[55:55.280 --> 55:56.280]  It's zero.
[55:56.280 --> 55:57.280]  Zero.
[55:57.280 --> 55:58.280]  None.
[55:58.280 --> 56:06.400]  Now, if I looked at their own book, now I'm going to quote something to you that's in
[56:06.400 --> 56:08.840]  their handbook.
[56:08.840 --> 56:12.760]  Section 342.12 says this.
[56:12.760 --> 56:17.360]  You know, you hear people talking about an audit, that they want you to summons your
[56:17.360 --> 56:19.560]  books and records.
[56:19.560 --> 56:22.680]  I want to preface this by asking you one question.
[56:22.680 --> 56:27.680]  Can you name me the law that says you got to tell me what you did so I can use it against
[56:27.680 --> 56:28.680]  you?
[56:28.680 --> 56:29.680]  Doesn't exist.
[56:29.680 --> 56:30.680]  Violation of-
[56:30.680 --> 56:31.680]  It doesn't exist.
[56:31.680 --> 56:36.880]  Now, here's what their own books say.
[56:36.880 --> 56:42.720]  That the individual taxpayer is not required to exhibit his or her book and to compel them
[56:42.720 --> 56:49.880]  to do so would violate their Fifth Amendment right, create an unreasonable search and seizure
[56:49.880 --> 56:58.720]  under the Fourth Amendment, Boyd versus the U.S., Vatner versus the U.S.
[56:58.720 --> 57:05.120]  But absence of you claiming that right, see, that's where the problem lies.
[57:05.120 --> 57:07.120]  People don't claim their right.
[57:07.120 --> 57:10.040]  People don't stand up for their right.
[57:10.040 --> 57:13.720]  And the gentleman that I'm talking to here, I'll tell you what, I'm so proud to hear
[57:13.720 --> 57:19.320]  your voice and talk to you because you are right on point.
[57:19.320 --> 57:24.120]  The bottom line is real simple, and he knows, have been in law enforcement.
[57:24.120 --> 57:31.000]  If he arrests someone, the first thing he's got to do is admonish them.
[57:31.000 --> 57:37.080]  You don't have to answer any questions that I ask you now or at any time.
[57:37.080 --> 57:41.760]  But anything that you do say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
[57:41.760 --> 57:48.160]  Now, you have the right to have an attorney, and if you can't afford one, of course, the
[57:48.160 --> 57:51.160]  state will appoint one for you.
[57:51.160 --> 57:56.760]  Now, how does the internal revenue get around that?
[57:56.760 --> 57:57.760]  They can't.
[57:57.760 --> 58:03.880]  And it's because of people's ignorance, because they don't know the law, that they get away
[58:03.880 --> 58:09.160]  with it.
[58:09.160 --> 58:12.000]  And it's because they have people terrified.
[58:12.000 --> 58:13.000]  That's right.
[58:13.000 --> 58:15.280]  We've heard a lie for 86 years.
[58:15.280 --> 58:20.560]  And also because they are controlling the state governments and the sheriffs, too.
[58:20.560 --> 58:21.560]  That is correct.
[58:21.560 --> 58:24.320]  When they're all in the same bed together, what do you expect?
[58:24.320 --> 58:28.800]  Well, see, this is what I want to address, if you would please, when we get back on the
[58:28.800 --> 58:30.720]  other side.
[58:30.720 --> 58:32.640]  We all know they don't have jurisdiction.
[58:32.640 --> 58:35.200]  We all know they're not following the law.
[58:35.200 --> 58:43.280]  But with their bogus jurisdiction and their pretend rulings, they'll still come and take
[58:43.280 --> 58:45.160]  you away and take all your stuff away, too.
[58:45.160 --> 58:50.440]  So how do we stop that, really?
[58:50.440 --> 58:51.880]  What court do we file?
[58:51.880 --> 58:52.880]  What motion's in?
[58:52.880 --> 58:54.560]  I mean, what do we really do about it?
[58:54.560 --> 59:15.720]  We'll be back on the other side.
[59:15.720 --> 59:33.320]  All right.
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[01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:11.440]  Barack Obama Tuesday, justified sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan because of the
[01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:13.320]  al-Qaeda cancer.
[01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:18.640]  However, in an October interview with CNN, Obama's national security advisor, General
[01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:24.600]  James Jones, put the number of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan at fewer than a hundred.
[01:00:24.600 --> 01:00:30.000]  The Taliban vowed Wednesday to boost attacks against U.S. forces in Afghanistan following
[01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:36.520]  Barack Obama's pledge to deploy more U.S. troops. Taliban spokesman Yusuf Ahamdi said,
[01:00:36.520 --> 01:00:42.000]  this is a strategy which is securing the colonizing interests of American investors and it shows
[01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:48.220]  that America has dirty plans, not only for Afghanistan but for the region. UN Assistant
[01:00:48.220 --> 01:00:54.520]  Mission in Afghanistan says up to 32,000 Afghan civilians have been killed as a result of
[01:00:54.520 --> 01:01:01.520]  the war since the U.S. led invasion in 2001. Private contractors employed by the Pentagon
[01:01:04.600 --> 01:01:10.440]  in Afghanistan will continue to outnumber the size of the American troop presence even after
[01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:17.380]  Barack Obama sends 30,000 more soldiers. A spokesman for U.S. Central Command said Monday
[01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:24.380]  the latest figure is 104,000 and expected to grow. There are currently 68,000 U.S. troops
[01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:31.860]  in Afghanistan. The army of contractors provides food, transport, construction, security and
[01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:37.640]  other services. The lack of discussion about private contractors warps perception of the
[01:01:37.640 --> 01:01:43.600]  size of the American commitment in Afghanistan. Obama made no mention of contractors in his
[01:01:43.600 --> 01:01:50.600]  address Tuesday. Of the 104,000 contractors, 9,000 are U.S. citizens, 78,000 are Afghans
[01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:59.800]  and 16,000 from other countries. As of June the number of contractors was 73,900 so the
[01:02:00.040 --> 01:02:06.080]  new figure is a considerable increase. Critics say this data should be viewed skeptically.
[01:02:06.080 --> 01:02:13.080]  A commission investigating contracting created by Congress has complained about widely varying
[01:02:13.080 --> 01:02:20.080]  contract accounts and lack of good data. North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has imposed a shock
[01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:28.360]  currency devaluation that has reportedly sparked panic, chaos and protests in the isolated
[01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:35.360]  Stalinist state. Monday's devaluation of Pyongyang's nearly worthless currency from 100 to a single
[01:02:35.680 --> 01:02:41.560]  one has wiped out the savings of impoverished North Koreans and generated a scramble for
[01:02:41.560 --> 01:02:48.560]  dollars and Chinese yuan. South Korean intelligence services report army bases are on standby
[01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:54.960]  against possible riots. Officials are bracing themselves for a furious reaction to news
[01:02:54.960 --> 01:03:01.960]  that a deposit of 200,000 yuan will yield just 1,100 in the new currency.
[01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:31.960]  Okay, we're chanting down Babylon. Chanting down Babylon. We've had such an incredible
[01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:41.360]  conversation on the break. We're going to try to repeat as much of it as we can for
[01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:47.360]  your listeners talking about God-given rights and such and Lou before I turn the floor over
[01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:54.360]  to you something I was just about to tell you on the break regarding family and our
[01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.440]  beliefs and standing up for what we believe in and what really matters and you were talking
[01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:05.280]  about you never see a U-Haul being dragged by a hearse on the way to the cemetery because
[01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.840]  what you come in with is what you leave with which is nothing.
[01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.080]  You came in this world with nothing. That's right.
[01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:15.880]  You're going to leave this world with nothing. And Lou, I wanted to tell you.
[01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.680]  Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to something
[01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:25.560]  here. I wanted to say something that's very important to me. The most important lesson
[01:04:25.560 --> 01:04:32.280]  I have ever been taught in my life, which I admit I still haven't learned yet, two lessons
[01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:39.280]  taught to me by my grandfather, my father's father. They told me repeatedly as I was growing
[01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:46.560]  up till the day that he died, he said, there's two things you need to know. Don't ever be
[01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:53.560]  enslaved to the interest man. Don't give your money to the interest man and make sure your
[01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:04.280]  heart is right with God, the father, before you leave this earth. Two most important things.
[01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:12.360]  And I have to admit, I'm still trying to complete both of those lessons. So anyway, go ahead,
[01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:17.800]  Lou. All I got to say about it is if I can't take
[01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:24.520]  it with me, it just ain't going. Oh, come on, Randy. Anyway, go ahead, Lou.
[01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:31.240]  You know, as I was saying before, you know, God gives us our right. The first law was
[01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:37.920]  God's law. And what I loved about our founding father is the laws that they wrote, they wrote
[01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:44.920]  it based on God's law. You see, I can't violate a law in this land if I don't violate God's
[01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:50.000]  law. So my most important thing that I like for
[01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  people to understand is that what we do on this earth is what God is going to judge us
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:00.960]  by. I don't care what position you've got on this earth. I don't care how much money
[01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:09.720]  you have. None of that means nothing. And what we have to do is remember this. Let's
[01:06:09.720 --> 01:06:16.000]  put God in the forefront of what we're doing and we can't lose. You see, God will open
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:22.440]  doors and doors will be closed, but He'll open another one that's going to be better.
[01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:26.000]  And I'm not saying everybody's got to believe that way, but that's the way I believe. I
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:32.840]  believe God is in control. And I think He puts us through things to test our faith.
[01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:37.960]  Because when we leave this earth, we're not taking anything with us. We're going to leave
[01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:48.320]  like we came in. We get older going back to where we were when we were a baby. And the
[01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:56.720]  bottom line is this. The laws are there to protect us, but what we got to do is to get
[01:06:56.720 --> 01:07:06.360]  everybody on the same page, because our judicial system ain't on the same page with the law.
[01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:14.480]  And we want our law enforcement officers to go out and enforce the law. I don't have a
[01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:21.400]  problem with that, because laws are made there to protect us. Don't violate them. But what
[01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:30.960]  we have now is a society that could care less about laws. You know, if we have laws, let's
[01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:39.000]  follow them. And judicial side, let's not forget that from the bench, you can't legislate
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:45.120]  a law. Congress can legislate. The legislature can legislate a law, but they can't enforce
[01:07:45.120 --> 01:07:54.200]  it. And as long as those laws are there, let's learn them. But you know what they do? They
[01:07:54.200 --> 01:08:04.880]  tell you, well, you know, ignorance of the law is no defense. In taxes, that is not true.
[01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:16.800]  In Title 26, Section 7491, burden of proof, if in any court proceeding a taxpayer or anyone
[01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:24.560]  introduces credible evidence with respect to a factual issue relevant to ascertaining
[01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:31.480]  the liability of the taxpayer for any tax imposed by subtitle A or B, the secretary
[01:08:31.480 --> 01:08:41.000]  shall have the burden of proof with respect to such issue. But they don't do that. The
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:47.240]  DOJ dictates to the judge what the judge does, and the judge just signs it. That is not due
[01:08:47.240 --> 01:08:56.160]  process of law. Due process of law is hearing both sides, knowing what the evidence is,
[01:08:56.160 --> 01:09:02.280]  using the discovery to find out what the other side has so you can properly defend yourself.
[01:09:02.280 --> 01:09:06.280]  And the judge should be impartial to all of that. He should be sitting in the middle of
[01:09:06.280 --> 01:09:12.840]  it, listening to the evidence, instructing the jurors the proper way. And jurors should
[01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:19.680]  be incumbent upon them to know what the laws are. I was reading a case or looking at a
[01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:26.680]  video of a case the other day where this one juror stood up. And here is, these people
[01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:36.800]  are in this case. Here is an ex-IRS agent. Here is a CEO of a company, two attorneys,
[01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:46.840]  a police officer, the juror, and here is the victim. I mean, here is the plaintiff.
[01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:55.640]  And this juror asks one of the most important questions. Judge, can you give us the law
[01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:04.840]  that makes him liable? The judge writes back to her, I have given you what you need. She
[01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:11.240]  comes back to the judge and says, Judge, I want to see the law that makes him liable.
[01:10:11.240 --> 01:10:21.240]  He sends a note back to the juror saying, your request has been denied. And she started
[01:10:21.240 --> 01:10:26.920]  thinking, wait a minute, if the judge can't give us the law that makes him liable, maybe
[01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:35.600]  we ain't got to do this either. So they voted 12 to nothing in favor of the plaintiff. Not
[01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:42.360]  guilty. I'd like for them to stop using the word not guilty and come back with innocent.
[01:10:42.360 --> 01:10:47.660]  Because not guilty doesn't mean you didn't violate the law. Not guilty simply means they
[01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:57.080]  didn't have a proponents of evidence to find you guilty. This is what's wrong in this country.
[01:10:57.080 --> 01:11:05.200]  The bottom line to me is real simple. If you violate the law, you need to know what law
[01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:13.280]  you violated. The Internal Revenue Code only has penalty statutes in it. Section 7401,
[01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:26.760]  7201, 7202, 0304, 0506, 0707. A penalty statute. Any person liable. Well, wait a minute, who
[01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:33.640]  is the person and what makes that person liable? That's never presented. And everybody takes
[01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:39.640]  it and runs with it as though you are liable. But they never present the law that made you
[01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:46.640]  liable. So this is how we have to fight. I don't want to fight the code. Because I go
[01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:54.400]  in fighting the code, I'm putting myself in their jurisdiction. I just want three things.
[01:11:54.400 --> 01:12:03.440]  Use your jurisdiction, your authority, and the statute at large that makes me liable.
[01:12:03.440 --> 01:12:11.480]  And that's the bottom line. You may say I may sound like a hardcore patriot. I love
[01:12:11.480 --> 01:12:17.960]  this country. I love every law enforcement officer I see. I still find myself wanting
[01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:23.720]  to stop to cover them. And I know I can't do that because they don't know me. But I
[01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:32.400]  like to watch their back. But the bottom line is to educate people. Educate people to what
[01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:36.400]  the laws are. Make a policeman's job easier. If I know what the law is, then I know what
[01:12:36.400 --> 01:12:44.720]  I shouldn't do. And don't look at a police officer out there, or a sheriff, or anyone
[01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.320]  else in law enforcement. Don't look at them as if to say, well, I better watch myself
[01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:53.280]  because if I don't, he's out to get me. He's not out to get you. Just don't violate the
[01:12:53.280 --> 01:13:02.480]  law, and it makes his job easier. I was adamant about that when I was in law enforcement.
[01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:11.520]  And I was a good police officer. I know how to investigate. I know how to testify. And
[01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:20.360]  the bottom line here is real simple. If you know the law, then I can't say anything to
[01:13:20.360 --> 01:13:25.800]  you. I can't get you to go along with what I want. Because all the Internal Revenue wants
[01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:30.640]  to do is to go ahead and get you to voluntarily give them what they want. There is no law
[01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:40.520]  that says you have to. And if people would read the back of a summons, section 74-21-27,
[01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:45.560]  section 74-20, has nothing to do with you. It has to do with fuels used on farms, fuels
[01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:50.400]  used for highway purposes. It has nothing to do with you. That's an excise tax. And
[01:13:50.400 --> 01:13:57.720]  nowhere in the Internal Revenue Code can you find a law that says anything about income
[01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:06.600]  tax. It all covers excise tax. Let's go back to the Constitution, section 1, article 1,
[01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:12.600]  section 8. Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes. And then it tells us what they
[01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:27.400]  are. Excise import and duties. Now, you tell me how what you work for becomes federal.
[01:14:27.400 --> 01:14:38.240]  It doesn't. But because of our ignorance, when we were kids growing up, we were taught
[01:14:38.240 --> 01:14:43.800]  this is what you have to do. Not knowing the law, but that's what was done, doesn't make
[01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:52.600]  it right. And I would give anything in the world to see some of our congressmen and senators
[01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:58.720]  stand up for the law. I've written our president. I got the green card back, but I never got
[01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:07.040]  a response back. I have written congressmen. I've never gotten a response back from them.
[01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:18.000]  Now, you tell me that's being transparent. That's how I feel. I don't want to violate
[01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:25.600]  a law. I don't want to hurt this country in any way, fashion, or form. But stop and think
[01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:34.880]  about this. If we had no income tax, they're still going to collect taxes because everything
[01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:39.800]  you go buy, you pay a tax on. I'm going to use three things here, and then I'm going
[01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:49.440]  to shut up. When you go buy gasoline, there's a state and a federal tax in that price. Let's
[01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:55.240]  say there are 30 million people that live in the state of Texas. And let's say out of
[01:15:55.240 --> 01:16:06.200]  that 30 million, only 15 million have two cars. And they buy 10 gallons of gas a month,
[01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:16.160]  not every week, a month, worth $10. I mean, 10 gallons. That's, say, 38 and a half cents
[01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:30.600]  for the state, times 15 million. That's a lot of money, isn't it? Are you still there?
[01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:35.200]  Oh, yeah. It sure is. Then. Wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. We're about to go to break. About
[01:16:35.200 --> 01:16:41.400]  to go to break. Let's continue this on the other side. Where's my sheriff buddy at? He's
[01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:47.600]  right here. He's here. He's not going anywhere. I really like him. And Lou, I want to get
[01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:56.200]  into some of the nuts and bolts of this court case that you've won so we can outline a procedural
[01:16:56.200 --> 01:16:59.200]  remedy for the listeners. We'll be right back. OK, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm
[01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:04.200]  going to give it. Hello, Austin. My name is Harlan Dietrich, owner of Brave New Books,
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[01:18:57.200 --> 01:19:22.200]  Okay, we are back. All right, Lou, so if you would please, could you go over your court
[01:19:22.200 --> 01:19:28.200]  case, the case that you won, and how you structured your pleadings, the points that you argued,
[01:19:28.200 --> 01:19:33.200]  how you made your arguments, what were the basis of your arguments, and this type of
[01:19:33.200 --> 01:19:39.200]  thing. What was the structure of your case and how did you win it? Could you please give
[01:19:39.200 --> 01:19:41.200]  us an overview and some specifics?
[01:19:41.200 --> 01:19:50.200]  Okay, I'll give you an overview. The property that was in the truck, that was leaned by
[01:19:50.200 --> 01:20:01.200]  the Internal Revenue was in a trust. It was in an irrevocable trust of which the party
[01:20:01.200 --> 01:20:09.200]  was not the trustee. So you can't be a nominee if you're not the trustee. But the Internal
[01:20:09.200 --> 01:20:18.200]  Revenue seized the property and filed a paperwork as though he and his wife were the nominees.
[01:20:18.200 --> 01:20:24.200]  They weren't. I was one of the trustees along with another gentleman that's a trustee. So
[01:20:24.200 --> 01:20:30.200]  what I had to do was go to Beeville because that's where the property is. Now here we
[01:20:30.200 --> 01:20:37.200]  go back to the status of the property again. So what I did was filed in the State District
[01:20:37.200 --> 01:20:50.200]  Court. I took the motions that are in the Texas law is what I used. And it was filed
[01:20:50.200 --> 01:20:59.200]  ex parte. There were no witnesses. The judge had to make a ruling based on the law if this
[01:20:59.200 --> 01:21:10.200]  was a vital lien. And that's how I presented it. There were no filing fees either because
[01:21:10.200 --> 01:21:16.200]  in the state law it says there are no filing fees if it is file ex parte. And that marvelous
[01:21:16.200 --> 01:21:20.200]  gentleman that's running for sheriff hit the nail right on the head. Property code,
[01:21:20.200 --> 01:21:23.200]  government code was what you used.
[01:21:23.200 --> 01:21:27.200]  Okay, so Lou, you filed this as a plaintiff, is that correct?
[01:21:27.200 --> 01:21:29.200]  Yes.
[01:21:29.200 --> 01:21:31.200]  And I didn't use another attorney.
[01:21:31.200 --> 01:21:39.200]  Was there also an action against you, like an administrative action by the IRS that you
[01:21:39.200 --> 01:21:46.200]  were trying to adjudicate or did you just decide to go after them because they're fraudulent?
[01:21:46.200 --> 01:21:54.200]  As a trustee I never received anything. I never got any notices, no paperwork, no nothing.
[01:21:54.200 --> 01:21:59.200]  And then the next thing I know here comes a notice of seizure.
[01:21:59.200 --> 01:22:03.200]  You were the trustee on the trust they were trying to take, so that gave you standing
[01:22:03.200 --> 01:22:04.200]  to go after them.
[01:22:04.200 --> 01:22:12.200]  That's correct. So what I did is I drove to Beeville. I had my paperwork, had it all
[01:22:12.200 --> 01:22:18.200]  in order. And the clerks there looked at me and said, well, we don't know anything about
[01:22:18.200 --> 01:22:28.200]  filing anything like this. So I said, well, here's the Texas law. And I used the
[01:22:28.200 --> 01:22:35.200]  excerpts from the Texas law with those motions. So there was no filing fee and I got it
[01:22:35.200 --> 01:22:40.200]  filed. Then they called me back and told me they gave it a case number.
[01:22:40.200 --> 01:22:46.200]  Then I get a phone call. He tells, the clerk tells me what the judge doesn't know
[01:22:46.200 --> 01:22:51.200]  whether he wants to make a ruling on this because he's not familiar with the law.
[01:22:51.200 --> 01:22:55.200]  So I told her, I said, what you need to do is let me talk to the judge because if he
[01:22:55.200 --> 01:22:59.200]  doesn't know where the law is he better know where to go find it. Because if he
[01:22:59.200 --> 01:23:05.200]  doesn't I'm coming after him.
[01:23:05.200 --> 01:23:14.200]  Two weeks later I get the court ruling. And in the Texas law there are two places
[01:23:14.200 --> 01:23:24.200]  that he checks as well as signs. And on his civil paperwork he had written on that
[01:23:24.200 --> 01:23:32.200]  what's in the body of the motion and that was there are no judgments on file for
[01:23:32.200 --> 01:23:37.200]  the paperwork that is filed here. In other words, the notice of liens, the notice of
[01:23:37.200 --> 01:23:45.200]  levies, there was no court order with them. So there was no judgment. And that's
[01:23:45.200 --> 01:23:48.200]  the way he ruled.
[01:23:48.200 --> 01:23:52.200]  So today what I wanted to do was give Randy a copy of it. I'm also going to give
[01:23:52.200 --> 01:23:59.200]  him a copy of the court order, the ruling. So if people have a notice of levy or a
[01:23:59.200 --> 01:24:04.200]  notice of lien, file what's in the state law in the state district court, get the
[01:24:04.200 --> 01:24:13.200]  state court to rule on it. And the state court is to send the agent a copy of it
[01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:15.200]  because that's what the state law says.
[01:24:15.200 --> 01:24:22.200]  Another thing I did, if a lien is filed the secretary of state should have a copy
[01:24:22.200 --> 01:24:39.200]  of it. So I had them do a search. It cost me $30. They could find no lien filed.
[01:24:39.200 --> 01:24:47.200]  So that shows what Ed was saying, they don't follow any procedure.
[01:24:47.200 --> 01:24:55.200]  Lou, let me ask you something. If you have any experience, if you know, what would
[01:24:55.200 --> 01:25:00.200]  be, what do you think would be the best plan of action or what would you do if
[01:25:00.200 --> 01:25:07.200]  there was an order that came down like through one of their administrative
[01:25:07.200 --> 01:25:16.200]  rulings but they haven't filed in the court system yet to enforce that forfeiture
[01:25:16.200 --> 01:25:24.200]  order or that lien yet, do you, would someone have to wait until they file in
[01:25:24.200 --> 01:25:31.200]  federal court to enforce the forfeiture order before you could start filing
[01:25:31.200 --> 01:25:32.200]  motions against it?
[01:25:32.200 --> 01:25:34.200]  Administratively you cannot have a forfeiture order.
[01:25:34.200 --> 01:25:43.200]  Or can you, is there any way that you could file appeals or motions in court
[01:25:43.200 --> 01:25:49.200]  against a forfeiture order before they actually bring the forfeiture order to
[01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:50.200]  court?
[01:25:50.200 --> 01:25:56.200]  Yeah, you could do that. But what I would be doing is not, don't go to the
[01:25:56.200 --> 01:25:58.200]  Fox Garden in the hen house.
[01:25:58.200 --> 01:25:59.200]  Okay.
[01:25:59.200 --> 01:26:04.200]  Okay, because you're not going to get anywhere doing that. I would go the other
[01:26:04.200 --> 01:26:08.200]  way and Randy is pretty thorough. I like Randy a lot because he's pretty darn
[01:26:08.200 --> 01:26:17.200]  thorough. I would fight it the other way and file in the state court. If they
[01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:24.200]  kick it to the federal, I have the procedure that shows what can be moved
[01:26:24.200 --> 01:26:26.200]  from the state court to the federal court.
[01:26:26.200 --> 01:26:31.200]  And the only way it can is if it is a federal issue.
[01:26:31.200 --> 01:26:39.200]  If I'm suing a federal employee as an employee, that's got to go federal. But
[01:26:39.200 --> 01:26:44.200]  if I sue that person as an individual, that's not federal.
[01:26:44.200 --> 01:26:45.200]  Yes.
[01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:52.200]  So there are procedures to go through that I want to get with you. And I'll
[01:26:52.200 --> 01:27:02.200]  give you everything I got. I got another book that has been put together showing
[01:27:02.200 --> 01:27:08.200]  all the procedures of the Internal Revenues based on their own manual that
[01:27:08.200 --> 01:27:19.200]  they violate. But if we don't know it, then they get away with it.
[01:27:19.200 --> 01:27:24.200]  So, Lou, is your case finished now?
[01:27:24.200 --> 01:27:29.200]  No, I'm going back. But now what I want to do is I want to get the agent.
[01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:34.200]  Because see what I did in that motion? I listed the agent's name because the
[01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:38.200]  agent is the one that signed all this paperwork, so they're acting as though
[01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:46.200]  they're a judicial officer or a court. And they're not.
[01:27:46.200 --> 01:27:56.200]  Section Title 26, Section 7608 is very plain and clear that an agent
[01:27:56.200 --> 01:28:02.200]  administratively does not have the authority. I'm going to read it to you.
[01:28:02.200 --> 01:28:08.200]  I'm going to pull it up here just a second and read it to you because this is
[01:28:08.200 --> 01:28:15.200]  so important. And nobody ever knows this. And it's important that you know the
[01:28:15.200 --> 01:28:32.200]  law. Let me just type this in right quick.
[01:28:32.200 --> 01:28:36.200]  I like what you're saying about going after the agent personally.
[01:28:36.200 --> 01:28:37.200]  That's right.
[01:28:37.200 --> 01:28:38.200]  In state court.
[01:28:38.200 --> 01:28:45.200]  Now, here is the authority of an internal revenue enforcement.
[01:28:45.200 --> 01:28:48.200]  And this is what it says.
[01:28:48.200 --> 01:28:56.200]  Enforcement of Sub Title E and other laws pertaining to liquor, tobacco,
[01:28:56.200 --> 01:28:59.200]  and firearms.
[01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:05.200]  An investigator agent of internal revenue officer by whatever term designated
[01:29:05.200 --> 01:29:11.200]  by the secretary charges with the duty of enforcing any of the criminal seizure
[01:29:11.200 --> 01:29:16.200]  of forfeiture provisions of Sub Title E or of any other law of the United
[01:29:16.200 --> 01:29:22.200]  States pertaining to commodities subject to tax under Sub Title for the
[01:29:22.200 --> 01:29:28.200]  enforcement of which the secretary is responsible.
[01:29:28.200 --> 01:29:29.200]  Which secretary?
[01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:30.200]  You're following me?
[01:29:30.200 --> 01:29:32.200]  Yes, yes.
[01:29:32.200 --> 01:29:37.200]  Where does an agent under Sub Title A have any authority?
[01:29:37.200 --> 01:29:43.200]  Is there case law? Is there annotations on this statute?
[01:29:43.200 --> 01:29:46.200]  I'll do better than that.
[01:29:46.200 --> 01:29:47.200]  Okay.
[01:29:47.200 --> 01:29:50.200]  Let's go to the parallel table of authority.
[01:29:50.200 --> 01:29:51.200]  Okay. All right.
[01:29:51.200 --> 01:29:52.200]  Hold that thought.
[01:29:52.200 --> 01:29:53.200]  We're going to break.
[01:29:53.200 --> 01:29:54.200]  Okay.
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[01:31:01.200 --> 01:31:18.200]  Okay, we're back with very special guest, Lou Watson.
[01:31:18.200 --> 01:31:23.200]  Lou, you were just about to tell us about the Parallel Table of Authority.
[01:31:23.200 --> 01:31:26.200]  What is this, and how can we use it in our favor?
[01:31:26.200 --> 01:31:28.200]  Now, here's why that's so important.
[01:31:28.200 --> 01:31:33.200]  Remember we read what the SEC code section 7608 said?
[01:31:33.200 --> 01:31:38.200]  So let's go to the Code of Federal Regulations, Parts for which 26 USC
[01:31:38.200 --> 01:31:42.200]  7608 provides authority.
[01:31:42.200 --> 01:31:46.200]  This is a list of parts within the Code of Federal Regulations for which
[01:31:46.200 --> 01:31:51.200]  the U.S. Code section provides rulemaking authority.
[01:31:51.200 --> 01:31:57.200]  It is taken from the Parallel Table of Authorities, and it only pertains to
[01:31:57.200 --> 01:32:05.200]  Title 27, see it, Code of Federal Regulations, sections 296, and Title 27,
[01:32:05.200 --> 01:32:09.200]  Code of Federal Regulations, Part 70.
[01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:12.200]  That has to do with alcohol, tobacco, firearms.
[01:32:12.200 --> 01:32:20.200]  It has nothing to do with what you work for.
[01:32:20.200 --> 01:32:26.200]  Now, if I didn't know that, they say they got authority, right?
[01:32:26.200 --> 01:32:28.200]  They say that anyway.
[01:32:28.200 --> 01:32:29.200]  They say that anyway.
[01:32:29.200 --> 01:32:31.200]  Yeah, they're going to try to do whatever they want.
[01:32:31.200 --> 01:32:33.200]  But here's what it says.
[01:32:33.200 --> 01:32:41.200]  Now, if you look at 27 CFR 296 and Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 70,
[01:32:41.200 --> 01:32:54.200]  that has to do with liquor, cigarettes, cigars, vellum, and alcoholic beverages.
[01:32:54.200 --> 01:33:01.200]  That's where their authority is, but that is for an excise tax.
[01:33:01.200 --> 01:33:09.200]  The manufacturer is taxed because of the stamp.
[01:33:09.200 --> 01:33:17.200]  If you go to Title 26 and read the section pertaining to that,
[01:33:17.200 --> 01:33:22.200]  it will tell you that it is for a stamp tax.
[01:33:22.200 --> 01:33:29.200]  If I manufacture liquor or firearms or cigarettes and I purchase that stamp,
[01:33:29.200 --> 01:33:34.200]  I am liable to pay the tax on it.
[01:33:34.200 --> 01:33:38.200]  So I have a liability.
[01:33:38.200 --> 01:33:44.200]  I'm going to give you every section in Title 26 that makes a person liable,
[01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:50.200]  and none of it has to do with what you work for every day.
[01:33:50.200 --> 01:33:51.200]  Okay, hold on, Neal.
[01:33:51.200 --> 01:33:52.200]  I'm sorry.
[01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:53.200]  Hold on, Lou.
[01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:57.200]  One side issue.
[01:33:57.200 --> 01:34:00.200]  Does this still apply, what you just said,
[01:34:00.200 --> 01:34:03.200]  does that still apply to institutes that would manufacture liquor,
[01:34:03.200 --> 01:34:10.200]  tobacco, firearms strictly within the boundaries of a state,
[01:34:10.200 --> 01:34:15.200]  like one of the 50 states of the union?
[01:34:15.200 --> 01:34:16.200]  Actually, no, it does not.
[01:34:16.200 --> 01:34:17.200]  It doesn't, no.
[01:34:17.200 --> 01:34:24.200]  It really doesn't because how is what's done in the state federally connected?
[01:34:24.200 --> 01:34:29.200]  Okay, that's what I wanted to know if that statute applied in that situation.
[01:34:29.200 --> 01:34:33.200]  You see, here's what people got to understand,
[01:34:33.200 --> 01:34:36.200]  and I'm going to give you the best example I can give you.
[01:34:36.200 --> 01:34:39.200]  If you walked up to the average individual and asked them, well,
[01:34:39.200 --> 01:34:45.200]  where do you live, they would tell you the United States.
[01:34:45.200 --> 01:34:54.200]  Well, if I look at Title 26, Section 3121E, it defines the United States as being
[01:34:54.200 --> 01:35:00.200]  the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands,
[01:35:00.200 --> 01:35:04.200]  the Mariana Islands, and American Samoa.
[01:35:04.200 --> 01:35:08.200]  Now, you remember in 1959 when Alaska and Hawaii were territories
[01:35:08.200 --> 01:35:12.200]  and then they became part of the union state?
[01:35:12.200 --> 01:35:18.200]  When they became one of the 50 states of the union,
[01:35:18.200 --> 01:35:25.200]  they said in the Internal Revenue Code to amend Title, Section 3121E,
[01:35:25.200 --> 01:35:36.200]  by deleting Alaska and Hawaii from the United States.
[01:35:36.200 --> 01:35:39.200]  You see, there are three definitions for United States.
[01:35:39.200 --> 01:35:41.200]  Right.
[01:35:41.200 --> 01:35:48.200]  But the United States of America is what the 50 states make up.
[01:35:48.200 --> 01:35:53.200]  Ask Randy how many different ways there is to define the word state.
[01:35:53.200 --> 01:35:58.200]  Yeah, Randy, how many ways are there?
[01:35:58.200 --> 01:36:00.200]  He's putting me on that dime.
[01:36:00.200 --> 01:36:06.200]  What Eddie does is definitions of terms.
[01:36:06.200 --> 01:36:10.200]  He's very, very big on that.
[01:36:10.200 --> 01:36:11.200]  Well, that's good.
[01:36:11.200 --> 01:36:12.200]  How many are there, Eddie?
[01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:14.200]  I don't remember.
[01:36:14.200 --> 01:36:16.200]  It really depends.
[01:36:16.200 --> 01:36:19.200]  According to the way they use it, it can be up to five different definitions
[01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:21.200]  for the term state.
[01:36:21.200 --> 01:36:25.200]  Any time they're using one with a capital S,
[01:36:25.200 --> 01:36:30.200]  you can bank that it is not referring to any of the states of the union.
[01:36:30.200 --> 01:36:32.200]  That is correct.
[01:36:32.200 --> 01:36:36.200]  That is correct.
[01:36:36.200 --> 01:36:40.200]  So, Lou, I wasn't trying to get you off topic.
[01:36:40.200 --> 01:36:41.200]  That's okay.
[01:36:41.200 --> 01:36:47.200]  You were leading into how does this apply to average Americans who are not
[01:36:47.200 --> 01:36:48.200]  producing—
[01:36:48.200 --> 01:36:52.200]  Yeah, who are not manufacturing alcohol and tobacco firearms.
[01:36:52.200 --> 01:36:57.200]  Are you doing business in commerce?
[01:36:57.200 --> 01:36:59.200]  Not as one of those entities.
[01:36:59.200 --> 01:37:00.200]  That's correct.
[01:37:00.200 --> 01:37:01.200]  Right.
[01:37:01.200 --> 01:37:03.200]  Not as one of those entities.
[01:37:03.200 --> 01:37:06.200]  And certainly not on an interstate level at that.
[01:37:06.200 --> 01:37:08.200]  That's correct.
[01:37:08.200 --> 01:37:15.200]  Now, I'm going to give you something else that I want proof of thought.
[01:37:15.200 --> 01:37:23.200]  I'm going to give you another section, Title 26, Section 7401.
[01:37:23.200 --> 01:37:27.200]  7401.
[01:37:27.200 --> 01:37:31.200]  And we talk about authority.
[01:37:31.200 --> 01:37:36.200]  You remember you were talking about authority a few minutes ago?
[01:37:36.200 --> 01:37:41.200]  Here's what Title 26, Section 7401 says.
[01:37:41.200 --> 01:37:50.200]  No civil action for collection of recovery of taxes or of any fine penalty
[01:37:50.200 --> 01:37:59.200]  of forfeiture shall be commenced unless the Secretary authorizes or sanctions
[01:37:59.200 --> 01:38:06.200]  the proceedings and the Attorney General or his delegate directs that the
[01:38:06.200 --> 01:38:08.200]  action be commenced.
[01:38:08.200 --> 01:38:13.200]  Now, let's go.
[01:38:13.200 --> 01:38:16.200]  Lou?
[01:38:16.200 --> 01:38:19.200]  Lou, are you there?
[01:38:19.200 --> 01:38:20.200]  I'm here.
[01:38:20.200 --> 01:38:23.200]  If there is any authority there.
[01:38:23.200 --> 01:38:26.200]  Well, when I go to the parallel table of authority and I look up, go to
[01:38:26.200 --> 01:38:33.200]  Federal Regulations Part for which 26 U.S.C. Section 7401 provides authority.
[01:38:33.200 --> 01:38:43.200]  It's Title 27, Part 70, Alcohol, Tobacco.
[01:38:43.200 --> 01:38:49.200]  There is no authority for what you work for because income, your earnings,
[01:38:49.200 --> 01:38:55.200]  the Supreme Court said earnings are not taxable.
[01:38:55.200 --> 01:38:58.200]  I didn't say that, the Supreme Court said it.
[01:38:58.200 --> 01:39:02.200]  Another thing people got to understand, too, is this.
[01:39:02.200 --> 01:39:07.200]  All moral court rulings, even if they rule against, does not supersede the
[01:39:07.200 --> 01:39:16.200]  Supreme Court decision.
[01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:20.200]  Now, what do you do with that?
[01:39:20.200 --> 01:39:26.200]  What happens to a court or a judge if he violates a Supreme Court decision?
[01:39:26.200 --> 01:39:30.200]  He has performed a criminal act.
[01:39:30.200 --> 01:39:31.200]  That is correct.
[01:39:31.200 --> 01:39:34.200]  Now we go after him.
[01:39:34.200 --> 01:39:43.200]  A trial judge has the duty to generate the facts in the case and apply the
[01:39:43.200 --> 01:39:48.200]  law as it comes to him to those facts in the case.
[01:39:48.200 --> 01:39:55.200]  He has no authority to decide what the law means.
[01:39:55.200 --> 01:39:58.200]  I've always been taught if you violate a Supreme Court decision,
[01:39:58.200 --> 01:40:03.200]  you committed treason.
[01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:08.200]  Well, one thing, if you violate a decision in the court, you're screwed.
[01:40:08.200 --> 01:40:10.200]  You're darn right you are.
[01:40:10.200 --> 01:40:13.200]  Screws versus U.S.
[01:40:13.200 --> 01:40:18.200]  It was a 1945 case.
[01:40:18.200 --> 01:40:21.200]  It has never been overturned.
[01:40:21.200 --> 01:40:27.200]  Where if a public official violates ruling in this court, can he be saying,
[01:40:27.200 --> 01:40:31.200]  he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does?
[01:40:31.200 --> 01:40:34.200]  Therefore, he knows that there are no excuses.
[01:40:34.200 --> 01:40:39.200]  To the rule of law or to knowledge of the Supreme Court decisions,
[01:40:39.200 --> 01:40:43.200]  most certainly should be the judges.
[01:40:43.200 --> 01:40:48.200]  So this is how we have to use the law to accomplish what we want,
[01:40:48.200 --> 01:40:53.200]  but we also have to remember this.
[01:40:53.200 --> 01:41:00.200]  I have a case that shows that judges, agents,
[01:41:00.200 --> 01:41:08.200]  and DOJs get paid for every 1040 case they prosecute.
[01:41:08.200 --> 01:41:14.200]  Wow, that's huge.
[01:41:14.200 --> 01:41:23.200]  Now we can establish the fact that there is a conflict of interest.
[01:41:23.200 --> 01:41:26.200]  Well, it's the same thing like what they do with traffic tickets here in the states.
[01:41:26.200 --> 01:41:31.200]  If the attorney wins, then he only gets $350,
[01:41:31.200 --> 01:41:38.200]  but if he loses and you get convicted, he gets $3,500.
[01:41:38.200 --> 01:41:42.200]  You'd rather see the person lose and go to jail.
[01:41:42.200 --> 01:41:47.200]  So tell us about this case, Lou.
[01:41:47.200 --> 01:41:50.200]  Tell us about the case.
[01:41:50.200 --> 01:41:51.200]  Oh, which case?
[01:41:51.200 --> 01:41:54.200]  The case that you were just saying.
[01:41:54.200 --> 01:41:55.200]  Oh, that's the case.
[01:41:55.200 --> 01:41:57.200]  I have a copy of it.
[01:41:57.200 --> 01:42:03.200]  I don't know if I've got a copy here handy in front of me here.
[01:42:03.200 --> 01:42:05.200]  I'm trying to remember the name.
[01:42:05.200 --> 01:42:12.200]  It's Logrin versus the U.S.
[01:42:12.200 --> 01:42:14.200]  I'll get you guys a copy of it.
[01:42:14.200 --> 01:42:16.200]  Okay.
[01:42:16.200 --> 01:42:19.200]  And I'll tell you another thing.
[01:42:19.200 --> 01:42:22.200]  I use this also.
[01:42:22.200 --> 01:42:26.200]  In Tebow versus the U.S.,
[01:42:26.200 --> 01:42:29.200]  Richardson, who is a DOJ attorney,
[01:42:29.200 --> 01:42:40.200]  testified under oath that internal revenue is not a part of the government.
[01:42:40.200 --> 01:42:43.200]  Now, their money is often for the Federal Reserve.
[01:42:43.200 --> 01:42:45.200]  That is correct.
[01:42:45.200 --> 01:42:47.200]  That is what they are.
[01:42:47.200 --> 01:42:52.200]  If you look at the United States government organizational chart,
[01:42:52.200 --> 01:43:02.200]  you will not see the internal revenue in that chart as any organization that has any enforcement.
[01:43:02.200 --> 01:43:12.200]  They're actually created under the same branch authority as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
[01:43:12.200 --> 01:43:15.200]  But they can't enforce Title 27.
[01:43:15.200 --> 01:43:16.200]  Correct.
[01:43:16.200 --> 01:43:26.200]  Only Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, ATF, can do that.
[01:43:26.200 --> 01:43:31.200]  So this is why I say the education of the laws is so important,
[01:43:31.200 --> 01:43:36.200]  because if you don't have all your ducks in a row,
[01:43:36.200 --> 01:43:40.200]  then you come out on the losing end.
[01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:51.200]  Because most judges will tell you, oh, this is frivolous. Well, produce the law that makes it frivolous.
[01:43:51.200 --> 01:43:53.200]  All right. We'll be right back.
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[01:45:07.200 --> 01:45:21.200]  Hello? Oh, man, you're in jail. You got problems with that? Oh, man, I'm broke, dude.
[01:45:21.200 --> 01:45:30.200]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:30.200 --> 01:45:38.200]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:45:38.200 --> 01:45:48.200]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely there, too.
[01:45:48.200 --> 01:45:56.200]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail. They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:56.200 --> 01:46:04.200]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:04.200 --> 01:46:12.200]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:12.200 --> 01:46:17.200]  I know they will. Yeah, they're gonna put the bill.
[01:46:17.200 --> 01:46:27.200]  I know they will. I know they will. I know they will. I know they will. I know they will.
[01:46:27.200 --> 01:46:30.200]  We are back with Lou Watson.
[01:46:30.200 --> 01:46:40.200]  Okay, so Lou, I wanted to ask you, we were discussing on the break concerning these issues that you're bringing up
[01:46:40.200 --> 01:46:44.200]  about these federal statutes and showing that they don't have authority.
[01:46:44.200 --> 01:46:50.200]  Now, earlier we were discussing suing these agents personally in state court
[01:46:50.200 --> 01:46:59.200]  because if you want to argue these issues regarding these statutes, you would have to sue them as agents.
[01:46:59.200 --> 01:47:01.200]  That means you'd have to sue them in the federal court.
[01:47:01.200 --> 01:47:08.200]  But then you're saying that you use these arguments to show that they went outside of the authority.
[01:47:08.200 --> 01:47:11.200]  Yes, to show that they didn't have authority, they didn't have jurisdiction.
[01:47:11.200 --> 01:47:19.200]  So that way you're able to bring in these federal statutes to argue in the state court.
[01:47:19.200 --> 01:47:24.200]  Yeah, but you're not arguing the federal statutes in the state court.
[01:47:24.200 --> 01:47:30.200]  What your argument is going to be is they went outside of their authority.
[01:47:30.200 --> 01:47:31.200]  Okay.
[01:47:31.200 --> 01:47:35.200]  So now if you're outside of the authority, I'm suing you as an individual.
[01:47:35.200 --> 01:47:42.200]  You all have immunity and you don't have the support of the government to protect you.
[01:47:42.200 --> 01:47:44.200]  Right.
[01:47:44.200 --> 01:47:51.200]  If I file a lawsuit against that agent and I go into the federal court,
[01:47:51.200 --> 01:48:02.200]  and I'm suing him as an internal revenue agent, then that has to be in the federal court.
[01:48:02.200 --> 01:48:11.200]  But we want to keep this on the state court.
[01:48:11.200 --> 01:48:16.200]  We want to keep it on the state level because that's where the violation occurred.
[01:48:16.200 --> 01:48:19.200]  Your property is in the state.
[01:48:19.200 --> 01:48:22.200]  Your jurisdiction is in the state.
[01:48:22.200 --> 01:48:29.200]  Anytime that you can show that a public official acted beyond the scope of their authority,
[01:48:29.200 --> 01:48:33.200]  they have no immunity from suit of any kind,
[01:48:33.200 --> 01:48:39.200]  and committing criminal acts is not within the scope of authority of any public official.
[01:48:39.200 --> 01:48:42.200]  So criminally or civilly.
[01:48:42.200 --> 01:48:46.200]  Right.
[01:48:46.200 --> 01:48:50.200]  So, and that's been my approach all along.
[01:48:50.200 --> 01:48:54.200]  I've been trying to get people to go after the agent himself.
[01:48:54.200 --> 01:48:55.200]  That is correct.
[01:48:55.200 --> 01:49:00.200]  Let's say the IRS, they're my buds.
[01:49:00.200 --> 01:49:01.200]  The IRS is okay.
[01:49:01.200 --> 01:49:02.200]  It's not the IRS.
[01:49:02.200 --> 01:49:03.200]  It's a problem.
[01:49:03.200 --> 01:49:10.200]  It's this rogue agent over here that's violating all the rules of the IRS and they're picking on us.
[01:49:10.200 --> 01:49:14.200]  I'll tell you something else I did.
[01:49:14.200 --> 01:49:19.200]  We ordered our individual master file.
[01:49:19.200 --> 01:49:26.200]  That individual master file has so many lies in it that it's unbelievable.
[01:49:26.200 --> 01:49:39.200]  If I look at Title 26, Section 7852E, this has nothing to do with the, what's the word I want,
[01:49:39.200 --> 01:49:45.200]  under 552, the Privacy Act.
[01:49:45.200 --> 01:49:53.200]  If something is wrong on the individual master file, you have the right to correct it, get it corrected.
[01:49:53.200 --> 01:49:58.200]  That's what that Section 7852E says.
[01:49:58.200 --> 01:50:03.200]  But you have to have it decoded.
[01:50:03.200 --> 01:50:11.200]  So I had a gentleman that worked for him, that used to work for him, decode it, paid him for it.
[01:50:11.200 --> 01:50:20.200]  It comes back showing that, hey, you are a citizen of the Virgin Islands and you're dealing business in drugs.
[01:50:20.200 --> 01:50:23.200]  I've never been there.
[01:50:23.200 --> 01:50:26.200]  Don't know who doesn't about it.
[01:50:26.200 --> 01:50:33.200]  And in most cases, it will show that your Social Security number has been frozen
[01:50:33.200 --> 01:50:42.200]  and they've issued you a federal ID number.
[01:50:42.200 --> 01:50:47.200]  And when you call them to talk to them or write them to talk to them about wanting to correct it,
[01:50:47.200 --> 01:50:52.200]  they don't want to talk to you.
[01:50:52.200 --> 01:50:53.200]  Right.
[01:50:53.200 --> 01:50:55.200]  Well, I don't want to ask them to correct it.
[01:50:55.200 --> 01:51:05.200]  I want to charge them with fraud for doing it wrong this time. Because it's all fraud on it anyway.
[01:51:05.200 --> 01:51:11.200]  You see, I guess where I come from is I'll support this country.
[01:51:11.200 --> 01:51:12.200]  That's not what I'm about.
[01:51:12.200 --> 01:51:16.200]  I'm not about not supporting this country.
[01:51:16.200 --> 01:51:17.200]  I believe in this country.
[01:51:17.200 --> 01:51:27.200]  I want to support this country. But I also want to preserve the rights that the good Lord gave me
[01:51:27.200 --> 01:51:33.200]  to live on this earth until He decides it's time for me to leave it.
[01:51:33.200 --> 01:51:37.200]  And only He has control over that.
[01:51:37.200 --> 01:51:38.200]  Right.
[01:51:38.200 --> 01:51:41.200]  Well, you know, you and I were both in the military.
[01:51:41.200 --> 01:51:46.200]  And when we went in the military, we swore on our oath that we would protect this country.
[01:51:46.200 --> 01:51:48.200]  That's right. I still feel that way.
[01:51:48.200 --> 01:51:51.200]  From all means, foreign and domestic.
[01:51:51.200 --> 01:51:54.200]  That's right.
[01:51:54.200 --> 01:51:55.200]  We're just doing our jobs.
[01:51:55.200 --> 01:51:58.200]  That's correct.
[01:51:58.200 --> 01:52:05.200]  You know, and I sit and think of places I put my body from being shot at and lucky to be here.
[01:52:05.200 --> 01:52:11.200]  I'll be darned if you're going to take the rights that I thought I was over that fighting for.
[01:52:11.200 --> 01:52:17.200]  And everybody else that's in this country, that's what it was done for.
[01:52:17.200 --> 01:52:18.200]  Precisely.
[01:52:18.200 --> 01:52:22.200]  We've got about six minutes left and we have some callers who've been hanging on.
[01:52:22.200 --> 01:52:24.200]  Okay. Go ahead.
[01:52:24.200 --> 01:52:25.200]  Let's go to the callers.
[01:52:25.200 --> 01:52:29.200]  Did you have something else you wanted to address before we go to callers?
[01:52:29.200 --> 01:52:30.200]  No.
[01:52:30.200 --> 01:52:36.200]  I just had something I wanted to say to all the callers from Billy Graham, a prayer that he had,
[01:52:36.200 --> 01:52:39.200]  and it's very short, but I'd like for everyone to hear it.
[01:52:39.200 --> 01:52:40.200]  Okay.
[01:52:40.200 --> 01:52:45.200]  He says, Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness
[01:52:45.200 --> 01:52:48.200]  and to seek your direction and guidance.
[01:52:48.200 --> 01:52:57.200]  We know your word says, woe to those who call evil good, but that is exactly what we have done.
[01:52:57.200 --> 01:53:03.200]  We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.
[01:53:03.200 --> 01:53:07.200]  We have exploited the poor and call it the lottery.
[01:53:07.200 --> 01:53:12.200]  We have rewarded laziness and call it welfare.
[01:53:12.200 --> 01:53:16.200]  We have killed our unborn and call it choice.
[01:53:16.200 --> 01:53:21.200]  We have shot abortionists and call it justifiable.
[01:53:21.200 --> 01:53:27.200]  We have neglected the discipline of our children and call it building self-esteem.
[01:53:27.200 --> 01:53:31.200]  We have abused power and call it politics.
[01:53:31.200 --> 01:53:36.200]  We have coveted our neighbors' possessions and call it ambition.
[01:53:36.200 --> 01:53:42.200]  We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and call it freedom of expression.
[01:53:42.200 --> 01:53:49.200]  We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and call it enlightenment.
[01:53:49.200 --> 01:53:54.200]  Search us, O God, and know our hearts today.
[01:53:54.200 --> 01:53:59.200]  Cleanse us from every sin and set us free.
[01:53:59.200 --> 01:54:00.200]  Amen.
[01:54:00.200 --> 01:54:02.200]  Amen to that.
[01:54:02.200 --> 01:54:03.200]  All right.
[01:54:03.200 --> 01:54:04.200]  Let's go to some calls.
[01:54:04.200 --> 01:54:07.200]  I want to take a first-time caller first.
[01:54:07.200 --> 01:54:09.200]  We've got Ricky from Missouri.
[01:54:09.200 --> 01:54:11.200]  He's been holding for quite a while.
[01:54:11.200 --> 01:54:13.200]  Ricky, thanks for calling.
[01:54:13.200 --> 01:54:16.200]  What is your question for our guest?
[01:54:16.200 --> 01:54:19.200]  Well, I just wanted to talk to everybody and stuff.
[01:54:19.200 --> 01:54:27.200]  I wanted to warn everybody that when you're fighting this system, you know,
[01:54:27.200 --> 01:54:31.200]  it gets the mortgages and stuff because that's what I do.
[01:54:31.200 --> 01:54:34.200]  And in my own deal, I've been fighting for four years,
[01:54:34.200 --> 01:54:38.200]  and the banks are actually paying the prosecutors and the judges and stuff.
[01:54:38.200 --> 01:54:41.200]  I've been through like six or seven judges in my case.
[01:54:41.200 --> 01:54:48.200]  Now they've got a judge and stuff that just will not listen to anything I do or say or anything.
[01:54:48.200 --> 01:54:52.200]  I mean, they're just trying every way in the world they can to railroad me.
[01:54:52.200 --> 01:54:53.200]  Indeed.
[01:54:53.200 --> 01:54:54.200]  That's what they do.
[01:54:54.200 --> 01:54:59.200]  So we need to mount an attack on the judge himself.
[01:54:59.200 --> 01:55:05.200]  The judge is just as bound to law as you, if not more so.
[01:55:05.200 --> 01:55:09.200]  This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes.
[01:55:09.200 --> 01:55:18.200]  It was by H.G. Wells in his outline of history on speaking to the corruption of the popes during the Dark Ages.
[01:55:18.200 --> 01:55:21.200]  He very aptly observed,
[01:55:21.200 --> 01:55:29.200]  The giver of the law most owes the law allegiance, he of all beings should behave as though the law compels him.
[01:55:29.200 --> 01:55:39.200]  But it is the universal failing of mankind that what we are given to administer, we promptly presume we own.
[01:55:39.200 --> 01:55:43.200]  And you and I, we need to change that perspective.
[01:55:43.200 --> 01:55:44.200]  Absolutely.
[01:55:44.200 --> 01:55:52.200]  Let me explain that, you know, what I did was I actually did an administrative remedy against a bank.
[01:55:52.200 --> 01:55:59.200]  And everything when they tried to do a wrongful foreclosure, I did do a wrongful foreclosure and I undid a lot of stuff back in 2004.
[01:55:59.200 --> 01:56:09.200]  And I did an administrative process against them for the wrongful actions under 28 U.S.C. 1333 and 1337 under Admiralty Maritime.
[01:56:09.200 --> 01:56:11.200]  I got a $52 million lien against them.
[01:56:11.200 --> 01:56:14.200]  But I recorded it under UCC 1.
[01:56:14.200 --> 01:56:17.200]  There was no problem in Washington State.
[01:56:17.200 --> 01:56:20.200]  I got it up off the field in the state of Missouri, had no problems.
[01:56:20.200 --> 01:56:22.200]  I actually issued it.
[01:56:22.200 --> 01:56:23.200]  Okay.
[01:56:23.200 --> 01:56:24.200]  I actually issued it.
[01:56:24.200 --> 01:56:28.200]  Ricky, Ricky, listen, we literally have about one minute left.
[01:56:28.200 --> 01:56:33.200]  So can you help us wrap it up here?
[01:56:33.200 --> 01:56:37.200]  I would like to also just get a comment from Mike from Austin who's also calling in.
[01:56:37.200 --> 01:56:42.200]  And you're also welcome to call back in and explain this whole situation further.
[01:56:42.200 --> 01:56:46.200]  But anyway, I'm just letting you know we're very short on time here.
[01:56:46.200 --> 01:56:49.200]  So please help us wrap it up.
[01:56:49.200 --> 01:57:01.200]  Well, what I'm trying to figure out is how a person doing a private administrative process and everything can be in violation of statute law.
[01:57:01.200 --> 01:57:04.200]  Okay, we don't have time to get to that on this show.
[01:57:04.200 --> 01:57:08.200]  Yeah, that's going to be a huge conversation.
[01:57:08.200 --> 01:57:12.200]  We need to talk about that at like the beginning of the show.
[01:57:12.200 --> 01:57:15.200]  We've got about 45 seconds left.
[01:57:15.200 --> 01:57:17.200]  Rick, please call back in.
[01:57:17.200 --> 01:57:20.200]  I'm going to go to Mike in Austin now.
[01:57:20.200 --> 01:57:23.200]  Mike, you've got about 30 seconds.
[01:57:23.200 --> 01:57:26.200]  Do you have any question or comment for our guests quickly?
[01:57:26.200 --> 01:57:28.200]  No, unfortunately I don't have a question or comment.
[01:57:28.200 --> 01:57:36.200]  I saw about five years in the federal system for cultivation of marijuana back from 1996 to about 2000.
[01:57:36.200 --> 01:57:41.200]  I saw rampant neglect and abuse in the medical system.
[01:57:41.200 --> 01:57:46.200]  I saw one man die for sure, but I saw many even in my own situation.
[01:57:46.200 --> 01:57:53.200]  I saw them giving injections of what they call flu vaccine in Fort Dix, New Jersey.
[01:57:53.200 --> 01:57:56.200]  And I didn't get one, but everybody told me they were all dirty.
[01:57:56.200 --> 01:57:57.200]  They were outdated.
[01:57:57.200 --> 01:58:01.200]  The food in this system is old food bought from McDonald's and places like that.
[01:58:01.200 --> 01:58:03.200]  It's out of code.
[01:58:03.200 --> 01:58:07.200]  I mean, it's a terrible, horrible when you're in there and you're sick.
[01:58:07.200 --> 01:58:08.200]  I know.
[01:58:08.200 --> 01:58:10.200]  That's why we have to do something about Sherry.
[01:58:10.200 --> 01:58:11.200]  Okay, listen, I'm sorry.
[01:58:11.200 --> 01:58:12.200]  We're at the end of the show.
[01:58:12.200 --> 01:58:14.200]  Endless fraud detection.
[01:58:14.200 --> 01:58:18.200]  Steve and Neil are coming up right after this.
[01:58:18.200 --> 01:58:21.200]  Lou, do you have any closing comments for us, please?
[01:58:21.200 --> 01:58:23.200]  And certainly we want you back.
[01:58:23.200 --> 01:58:30.200]  The first thing I would say to people is to do the best you can to educate yourself to the law.
[01:58:30.200 --> 01:58:37.200]  And by doing that, and don't listen to people that have their own theory.
[01:58:37.200 --> 01:58:41.200]  If it doesn't fit in the law, stay away from it.
[01:58:41.200 --> 01:58:42.200]  Wonderful.
[01:58:42.200 --> 01:58:43.200]  Wonderful.
[01:58:43.200 --> 01:58:44.200]  Perfect.
[01:58:44.200 --> 01:58:47.200]  All right, Lou, definitely want to have you back on again.
[01:58:47.200 --> 01:58:48.200]  Okay, love.
[01:58:48.200 --> 01:58:58.200]  All right, well, listeners, stay tuned for endless fraud detection, Steve Skidmore and Neil Switkowski coming up right after this.
[01:59:48.200 --> 01:59:52.200]  Thank you.
[01:59:52.200 --> 02:00:19.200]  Thank you.