ROL_2009-11-20_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:09.840]  An investigation by the Huffington Post has found the Federal Reserve so thoroughly dominates
[00:09.840 --> 00:15.320]  the field of economics through its network of consultants, visiting scholars, alumni
[00:15.320 --> 00:21.680]  and staff economists that criticism of the bank becomes a career liability.
[00:21.680 --> 00:25.960]  Vietnam War veteran Thomas Mahaney has been on the hunger strike in front of the White
[00:25.960 --> 00:31.760]  House since Veterans Day to raise awareness about post-traumatic stress disorder and protest
[00:31.760 --> 00:35.240]  the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[00:35.240 --> 00:39.720]  According to a new report prepared by Neil Borowski, the Special Inspector General for
[00:39.720 --> 00:44.920]  the Troubled Asset Relief Program, Federal Government officials were aware that billions
[00:44.920 --> 00:50.680]  of dollars used to bail out AIG last year were used by the insurance giant to pay off
[00:50.680 --> 00:55.920]  its creditors.
[00:55.920 --> 01:01.520]  Lynn Stewart, the radical lawyer known for defending unpopular clients, surrendered Thursday
[01:01.520 --> 01:05.920]  to begin serving a 28-month sentence for assisting terrorism.
[01:05.920 --> 01:12.840]  A jury in 2005 convicted Ms. Stewart, now 70, of providing material aid to terrorism
[01:12.840 --> 01:18.720]  and of lying to the government while helping an imprisoned client, Sheikh Omar Adel Rahman,
[01:18.720 --> 01:21.160]  communicate with his followers in Egypt.
[01:21.160 --> 01:26.520]  The Sheikh, a blind fundamentalist cleric, was serving a life sentence after his 1995
[01:26.520 --> 01:31.160]  conviction for organizing a thwarted plot to blow up New York landmarks.
[01:31.160 --> 01:36.520]  The start of her prison term was put off while she appealed her conviction and so she could
[01:36.520 --> 01:38.880]  receive treatment for breast cancer.
[01:38.880 --> 01:43.680]  But on Tuesday, a federal appeals court upheld the verdict and ordered Ms. Stewart to begin
[01:43.680 --> 01:45.440]  serving her sentence.
[01:45.440 --> 01:50.160]  The appellate judges sent the case back to the trial judge to determine if Ms. Stewart
[01:50.160 --> 01:55.300]  deserved a longer sentence in light of the seriousness of her conduct and the possibility
[01:55.300 --> 01:59.120]  she lied during her trial.
[01:59.120 --> 02:04.420]  A bill introduced in the Senate Wednesday could see military contractors in Iraq face
[02:04.420 --> 02:10.920]  justice in U.S. courts in cases involving death, rape or serious injury.
[02:10.920 --> 02:15.240]  Supporters of the bill hailed it as the end of the wild west of government contracting,
[02:15.240 --> 02:20.640]  but some legal experts questioned whether the law could pass constitutional muster.
[02:20.640 --> 02:25.140]  The bill would require foreign companies that contract with the U.S. military to appear
[02:25.140 --> 02:29.000]  in U.S. court following a death, rape or serious injury.
[02:29.000 --> 02:33.840]  The inspiration for the law was the case of Army Lieutenant Colonel Dominic Baragona,
[02:33.840 --> 02:40.040]  who died in Iraq in 2003 when a truck belonging to a Kuwaiti contractor slammed into his
[02:40.040 --> 02:41.040]  Humvee.
[02:41.040 --> 02:46.360]  Baragona's family sued the contractor, Kuwait Gulf and Link Transport.
[02:46.360 --> 02:51.400]  When the contractor didn't appear in court, the judge issued a $4.9 million judgment,
[02:51.400 --> 02:56.320]  but the courts vacated that judgment when the company argued the U.S. didn't have
[02:56.320 --> 03:11.800]  jurisdiction over the case.
[03:56.320 --> 04:22.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:22.240 --> 04:31.480]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens and all of us, we've got some news tonight.
[04:31.480 --> 04:38.920]  I wanted to start off first by talking about this House Financial Services Committee vote
[04:38.920 --> 04:47.560]  concerning this audit, the Fed bill in what seems to be basically an unexpected turn of
[04:47.560 --> 04:55.880]  events, a vote of 43 to 26, the House Financial Services Committee passed the amendment to
[04:55.880 --> 04:59.200]  increase the Federal Reserve transparency.
[04:59.200 --> 05:05.160]  Basically what happened is that they passed Ron Paul's original audit, the Fed bill in
[05:05.160 --> 05:06.160]  the committee.
[05:06.160 --> 05:14.760]  You know, the ne'er do wells had taken his bill and basically gutted it to make it worthless
[05:14.760 --> 05:20.560]  and you know, everyone expected the Congress critters to pass the gutted worthless bill
[05:20.560 --> 05:26.880]  as usual because that's what they always do, it seems lately, but this is a surprise turn
[05:26.880 --> 05:27.880]  of events.
[05:27.880 --> 05:35.720]  They have, this committee has rejected the bogus bill and they've passed basically a
[05:35.720 --> 05:42.000]  aversion that's very close to Ron Paul's original bill, H.R. 1207.
[05:42.000 --> 05:47.840]  And so I'm sitting here wondering, okay, what's up?
[05:47.840 --> 05:51.560]  You know, it's like after everything that's going on, I don't trust it.
[05:51.560 --> 05:53.840]  I mean, I smell a grand stand.
[05:53.840 --> 05:57.440]  I mean, I hope it's real, but I'm just not sure.
[05:57.440 --> 06:02.560]  I mean, because we all know that, you know, Congress loves the Fed because they get all
[06:02.560 --> 06:05.640]  the free money they want from the Federal Reserve.
[06:05.640 --> 06:06.640]  So what's the matter?
[06:06.640 --> 06:07.640]  They don't want their money anymore?
[06:07.640 --> 06:11.600]  They don't want the debt notes they write, they, you know, create off in there anymore?
[06:11.600 --> 06:12.600]  I don't know.
[06:12.600 --> 06:13.600]  I mean, I hope it's real.
[06:13.600 --> 06:18.200]  I mean, it could be that this is a result of all the pressure from the constituents.
[06:18.200 --> 06:24.480]  The congressmen may be generally upset about all these bailout debacles or they may know
[06:24.480 --> 06:28.760]  that, you know, the whole economy is going down big time and so they're just trying to
[06:28.760 --> 06:30.400]  look good on the way out the door.
[06:30.400 --> 06:31.400]  I don't know.
[06:31.400 --> 06:34.440]  What do you guys make of this, Randy, Eddie?
[06:34.440 --> 06:39.540]  I think they may well see the door about to slam and hit them in the butt.
[06:39.540 --> 06:42.200]  And so they're just trying to look good on the way out the door.
[06:42.200 --> 06:48.160]  Well, maybe they're trying a last ditch effort to keep from getting thrown out the door.
[06:48.160 --> 06:54.520]  You know, this thing about nobody talking about being asleep and awake, we're not the
[06:54.520 --> 06:59.040]  only ones that's likely to be feeling that.
[06:59.040 --> 07:03.900]  These elected officials, I suspect, are feeling the same thing and the outrage and indignation
[07:03.900 --> 07:09.320]  over this bailout, it may well be coming home to roost on these guys.
[07:09.320 --> 07:16.040]  Do you think that they may be realizing that these banksters have been setting up the congressmen
[07:16.040 --> 07:20.320]  to hang them out to dry all along and so now they may be revolting?
[07:20.320 --> 07:24.480]  Well, I think the banksters- Well, they've always been revolting, but
[07:24.480 --> 07:25.480]  you know.
[07:25.480 --> 07:30.400]  Well, you know what I mean.
[07:30.400 --> 07:36.240]  I mean, do you think that these puppets are realizing that they have been had, that they
[07:36.240 --> 07:40.640]  have been set up as pawns all along and they're like, wait a minute, no.
[07:40.640 --> 07:43.640]  And they're trying to, you know, are they trying to actually buck up?
[07:43.640 --> 07:46.080]  No, I don't give them that much credit.
[07:46.080 --> 07:47.280]  That's what I'm saying.
[07:47.280 --> 07:53.640]  I think what they're doing is they need someone to blame the problem on and they're feeding
[07:53.640 --> 07:56.480]  us the bankers, the money changers.
[07:56.480 --> 08:02.720]  Oh, it's not us stupid politicians who's been stuffing our pockets with bankers' money
[08:02.720 --> 08:03.720]  all this time.
[08:03.720 --> 08:05.200]  We're not the problem.
[08:05.200 --> 08:06.560]  It's the money changers.
[08:06.560 --> 08:07.880]  We should blame the money changers.
[08:07.880 --> 08:09.680]  Well, see, this is the thing that I don't-
[08:09.680 --> 08:10.680]  We're looking for scapegoat.
[08:10.680 --> 08:16.120]  That I don't understand because they cooked up this bogus bill that's basically completely
[08:16.120 --> 08:18.840]  gutted what Ron Paul presented.
[08:18.840 --> 08:25.080]  I mean, to the masses, to the, you know, what sometimes we call the sheeple that watch Fox
[08:25.080 --> 08:29.040]  News or whatever, they don't know the difference between this bill or that bill.
[08:29.040 --> 08:30.800]  They just, oh, the audit the Fed bill.
[08:30.800 --> 08:34.880]  They're passing an audit the Fed bill and they don't know, you know, most people wouldn't
[08:34.880 --> 08:41.680]  take the time to consider whether it's a real bill, a real audit the Fed bill or not.
[08:41.680 --> 08:43.560]  So because it's all a big dog and pony show.
[08:43.560 --> 08:49.920]  So why are they taking the effort to actually throw out the bogus bill and stick to the
[08:49.920 --> 08:50.920]  real one?
[08:50.920 --> 08:56.840]  I mean, is this some kind of a sign that we're really making a difference here?
[08:56.840 --> 09:02.880]  I think it's a sign of these guys beginning to feed on themselves.
[09:02.880 --> 09:03.880]  Crabs in the bucket?
[09:03.880 --> 09:05.840]  Crabs in the bucket.
[09:05.840 --> 09:08.760]  They pull each other down and they're trying to climb out?
[09:08.760 --> 09:13.680]  Well, they need, they need somebody to feed to the public.
[09:13.680 --> 09:24.480]  So feed them the Fed, better feed them the Fed and feed them us because we can look at
[09:24.480 --> 09:29.560]  our constituents giving us our walking papers.
[09:29.560 --> 09:30.560]  The pressure's on.
[09:30.560 --> 09:34.880]  This is, I've been saying this pendulum is swinging out there and the further it swings
[09:34.880 --> 09:38.680]  out, the more gravity wants to pull it back.
[09:38.680 --> 09:45.160]  And the population is getting unhappy and when population gets unhappy, the incumbents
[09:45.160 --> 09:48.960]  get insecure.
[09:48.960 --> 09:55.040]  So like you say, they're passing a semblance of a Fed bill, but I wouldn't complain about
[09:55.040 --> 10:00.640]  it too much because at least we've got a semblance.
[10:00.640 --> 10:07.000]  We've got someone at least giving the appearance of looking at the Fed and pointing a finger
[10:07.000 --> 10:14.560]  at the Fed so that paying attention to the Fed will become more commonplace.
[10:14.560 --> 10:17.400]  Well, apparently the Fed is pretty upset about it.
[10:17.400 --> 10:18.400]  So that's a good sign.
[10:18.400 --> 10:19.880]  I hope so.
[10:19.880 --> 10:25.280]  I think that's the best sign I could hear unless they're just all doing song and dance
[10:25.280 --> 10:27.360]  and seltzer down your pants.
[10:27.360 --> 10:31.680]  Oh, please don't throw me in that brothel.
[10:31.680 --> 10:33.180]  No, they're not.
[10:33.180 --> 10:38.400]  They cringe at the thought of being audited and they have repeatedly said, oh, it's going
[10:38.400 --> 10:40.280]  to be so bad for the economy.
[10:40.280 --> 10:42.400]  It's going to destroy the world if you audit us.
[10:42.400 --> 10:44.400]  I mean, come on.
[10:44.400 --> 10:47.320]  Well, it is a good sign.
[10:47.320 --> 10:50.960]  At least it's not the status quo, but like I said, I still don't trust it.
[10:50.960 --> 10:51.960]  We'll have to see.
[10:51.960 --> 10:57.360]  I mean, because after all these years, after all this time to think that these Congress
[10:57.360 --> 11:03.080]  critters have suddenly had a change of heart, well, we'll just have to see about that.
[11:03.080 --> 11:07.320]  But I think that definitely we need to keep the pressure on.
[11:07.320 --> 11:14.680]  And speaking of keeping the pressure on, and I just got a message, Dan from Connecticut,
[11:14.680 --> 11:17.480]  and I know you want to weigh in on the Fed issue.
[11:17.480 --> 11:21.140]  Well, why don't we go ahead and take Dan since we're on the Fed issue, because we are going
[11:21.140 --> 11:25.100]  to go back to this FCC issue that we were discussing last night.
[11:25.100 --> 11:30.120]  We have more developments on that situation.
[11:30.120 --> 11:32.480]  So let's take Dan from Connecticut.
[11:32.480 --> 11:36.680]  Dan, you want to weigh in on this audit the Fed issue?
[11:36.680 --> 11:44.320]  Dan, hold on one moment.
[11:44.320 --> 11:49.360]  Did we put Dan to sleep already?
[11:49.360 --> 11:53.200]  Hold on one moment.
[11:53.200 --> 11:58.720]  He probably didn't go to sleep already, but just one second.
[11:58.720 --> 12:04.040]  Guys, why don't you weigh in on the Fed issue real quick, because I have to switch a cable
[12:04.040 --> 12:05.040]  around here.
[12:05.040 --> 12:06.040]  I had to send a...
[12:06.040 --> 12:07.040]  Sorry, folks.
[12:07.040 --> 12:10.840]  I only have one phone line here that has to function like 12 different functions.
[12:10.840 --> 12:15.120]  I had to send multiple factors to the FCC today, so I got to switch a cable around.
[12:15.120 --> 12:16.120]  Okay.
[12:16.120 --> 12:17.120]  Hold on.
[12:17.120 --> 12:18.120]  Go ahead, Randy.
[12:18.120 --> 12:19.120]  Yeah.
[12:19.120 --> 12:20.120]  I'd rather talk about the FCC.
[12:20.120 --> 12:22.640]  Dan, we'll let Dan talk about what he wants to.
[12:22.640 --> 12:27.440]  We have been making headway.
[12:27.440 --> 12:33.120]  Whatever other people are, I am associated with the micros in that my voice goes out
[12:33.120 --> 12:35.840]  over the micros.
[12:35.840 --> 12:41.640]  And my voice going out over the micros makes me happy.
[12:41.640 --> 12:47.680]  And I pursue my voice going out over the micros, and that makes me happy.
[12:47.680 --> 12:50.880]  And that is my constitutional right.
[12:50.880 --> 12:56.840]  In looking at the case law, the right to the pursuit of happiness is one of the rights
[12:56.840 --> 13:03.360]  that's never actually been adjudicated.
[13:03.360 --> 13:04.720]  They've never said what it was.
[13:04.720 --> 13:08.360]  So it's up to me what makes me happy.
[13:08.360 --> 13:12.320]  And pursuing my voice out over the radio makes me happy, gives me standing.
[13:12.320 --> 13:16.240]  Well, yeah, and it also affects your means of living, too.
[13:16.240 --> 13:18.360]  So you definitely can show it, too.
[13:18.360 --> 13:19.360]  Well, yeah.
[13:19.360 --> 13:23.880]  The more my voice goes out over the airwaves, the more I have to put out of my pocket and
[13:23.880 --> 13:24.880]  the hungrier I get.
[13:24.880 --> 13:28.240]  But then I'm fat enough that I got some room.
[13:28.240 --> 13:29.240]  Okay.
[13:29.240 --> 13:30.240]  Well, wait a minute.
[13:30.240 --> 13:31.240]  Okay.
[13:31.240 --> 13:32.240]  We got Dan on the line here.
[13:32.240 --> 13:33.240]  Let's go to Dan in Connecticut.
[13:33.240 --> 13:35.560]  Okay, Dan, you wanted to weigh in on the Fed issue?
[13:35.560 --> 13:36.560]  Dan who?
[13:36.560 --> 13:43.600]  I just got an email on this, and I was unfortunately not too pleased with what I found.
[13:43.600 --> 13:50.200]  Oh, well, let us know, because like I said, I haven't been trusting this issue.
[13:50.200 --> 13:56.360]  So when I saw that, the first thing I said was, hmm, we'll see.
[13:56.360 --> 13:59.960]  Well, here's the rat.
[13:59.960 --> 14:02.640]  And I was kind of disappointed that Ron Paul did this.
[14:02.640 --> 14:11.200]  I mean, I'm still fairly behind him, but I don't know if giving them 180 days to basically
[14:11.200 --> 14:16.360]  keep what they do hidden is a very good idea, because you can do a lot of financial damage
[14:16.360 --> 14:17.360]  in 180 days.
[14:17.360 --> 14:19.560]  I think we all know that.
[14:19.560 --> 14:24.880]  The other thing that I did not like at all about this is his original bill.
[14:24.880 --> 14:29.840]  I definitely want to see it pass, which it probably won't, but it asked for everything
[14:29.840 --> 14:32.520]  under the sun, and we needed that.
[14:32.520 --> 14:39.840]  But according to the amendment, at least according to the email I got, basically excludes papers,
[14:39.840 --> 14:46.720]  notes, and minute meetings from the Federal Open Market Committee, which, I mean, personally,
[14:46.720 --> 14:50.680]  if you wanted to do anything forensic, you can give me all the balance sheets you want.
[14:50.680 --> 14:55.700]  But if you don't have any kind of notes to back that up, internal memos, such things
[14:55.700 --> 15:01.400]  like that, I mean, you could just write whatever, and they could just make it all add up after
[15:01.400 --> 15:02.960]  the fact.
[15:02.960 --> 15:08.640]  And the other thing I really didn't like about it at all is it basically prohibited GAO from
[15:08.640 --> 15:14.600]  making any kind of recommendations whatsoever, which I'm not a big fan of government, I mean,
[15:14.600 --> 15:19.440]  being a libertarian, but if there's one entity out there that really does good, it's the
[15:19.440 --> 15:20.840]  General Accounting Office.
[15:20.840 --> 15:26.240]  So you're saying that this bill that they passed is really not that close to what Ron
[15:26.240 --> 15:27.720]  Paul's original bill is?
[15:27.720 --> 15:29.240]  Oh, no, no.
[15:29.240 --> 15:34.960]  This is like, I think Ron Paul and Alan Grayson probably figured, well, we need to get something,
[15:34.960 --> 15:40.120]  but we need to give the Fed something to make them feel better, and I was kind of taken
[15:40.120 --> 15:44.520]  aback because they mentioned concerns the Fed had.
[15:44.520 --> 15:50.840]  Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but what concerns could you possibly have if you've
[15:50.840 --> 15:57.320]  been debasing the dollar where you take away 96% of its value over the course of your lifetime
[15:57.320 --> 15:59.000]  as an entity?
[15:59.000 --> 16:03.640]  And on top of that, the stable employment mandate you have, you've never followed it.
[16:03.640 --> 16:08.480]  And if you really want to go back throughout history, I mean, they've never even guaranteed
[16:08.480 --> 16:12.000]  any access to credit or anything like that.
[16:12.000 --> 16:17.960]  So I'm not even sure that the Fed has any reason to have any concerns whatsoever.
[16:17.960 --> 16:24.160]  It's kind of like an arsonist gets arrested and he's concerned that people would offend
[16:24.160 --> 16:27.200]  him because he burnt a house down or something.
[16:27.200 --> 16:29.200]  You know what I'm saying.
[16:29.200 --> 16:30.200]  Right.
[16:30.200 --> 16:31.200]  Okay.
[16:31.200 --> 16:32.200]  Hang on the line, Dan.
[16:32.200 --> 16:33.200]  We've got to go to break here.
[16:33.200 --> 16:34.200]  Okay.
[16:34.200 --> 16:36.200]  We see callers Bobby from Texas, Bobby from Oklahoma.
[16:36.200 --> 16:39.040]  We're going to be taking your calls.
[16:39.040 --> 16:44.560]  On the other side, we're going to talk about this audit, the Fed bill or the lack thereof,
[16:44.560 --> 16:48.480]  and then we're going to talk some more about this FCC issue.
[16:48.480 --> 16:56.600]  We'll be right back.
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[18:24.440 --> 18:30.440]  And I get out of control on the edge of a hole inside a deep dark hole I'm always on
[18:30.440 --> 18:41.440]  the lookout for something to soothe my soul So I sit back and I watch the evidence unfold
[18:41.440 --> 18:53.440]  And I see justice is the door Yeah, justice is the door
[18:53.440 --> 18:57.440]  Okay, justice, that's what we're after.
[18:57.440 --> 19:01.440]  Peter Tosh said you can't have peace without justice.
[19:01.440 --> 19:05.440]  Okay, we're talking to Dan in Connecticut.
[19:05.440 --> 19:13.440]  Okay, so yeah, giving them 180 days, it's like, okay, guys, you have 180 days to cook
[19:13.440 --> 19:14.440]  the books.
[19:14.440 --> 19:19.440]  That's plenty of time to rent an industrial grade paper shredder.
[19:19.440 --> 19:25.440]  And oh, by the way, you can also rent a whole bunch of those military grade CD shredders.
[19:25.440 --> 19:28.440]  I believe it cuts them up to something like 272 pieces.
[19:28.440 --> 19:33.440]  You'll never be able to use it again.
[19:33.440 --> 19:35.440]  Right.
[19:35.440 --> 19:44.440]  And it's sad because Ron Paul's original HR 1207, it actually had enough cosponsors where
[19:44.440 --> 19:48.440]  if they all petitioned, they could have brought it to a house vote right away.
[19:48.440 --> 19:52.440]  I mean, forget what, you know, Nancy Pelosi wants to do.
[19:52.440 --> 19:55.440]  They could force this issue right now.
[19:55.440 --> 20:00.440]  Well, see, that just goes to what I was thinking earlier is that this looks like, again,
[20:00.440 --> 20:06.440]  just another kind of dog and pony show of grandstanding.
[20:06.440 --> 20:12.440]  Well, you also have to consider the fact that this may be a matter of compromise simply
[20:12.440 --> 20:15.440]  because of what the issue is.
[20:15.440 --> 20:18.440]  If they don't compromise, they would get nothing.
[20:18.440 --> 20:27.440]  And any exposure of what's going on or any removal of even some iota of power that they
[20:27.440 --> 20:31.440]  currently possess to hide what they're doing is better than nothing at this point.
[20:31.440 --> 20:35.440]  It's a small step for sure, but at least it is a step.
[20:35.440 --> 20:42.440]  Now, I'm for one would, my mindset would be more hold them accountable from day one,
[20:42.440 --> 20:47.440]  not only, you know, just for the things they've done recently,
[20:47.440 --> 20:51.440]  but the things they've been doing all along and know they've been doing all along.
[20:51.440 --> 20:55.440]  But then again, I don't have a political career to think about.
[20:55.440 --> 21:01.440]  I really hate to interrupt, but I would agree with you, but if it wasn't actually a step.
[21:01.440 --> 21:07.440]  And I've seen this happen before, and I'm not saying there aren't appropriate situations
[21:07.440 --> 21:14.440]  where you would compromise, but this essentially, you gave them all the tools to basically hide
[21:14.440 --> 21:20.440]  everything, and it's basically a compromise to the point where we're not going to get
[21:20.440 --> 21:22.440]  anything out of this.
[21:22.440 --> 21:28.440]  You know, because the GAO can't get access to the meeting minutes, and we're basically
[21:28.440 --> 21:31.440]  going to let them do whatever for 180 days.
[21:31.440 --> 21:37.440]  And we already know the whole place is run by Goldman Sachs and Wall Street.
[21:37.440 --> 21:40.440]  It goes way beyond a compromise.
[21:40.440 --> 21:45.440]  And to even admit, I mean, I could understand if there was a step in there that would really
[21:45.440 --> 21:46.440]  fix the problem.
[21:46.440 --> 21:51.440]  Maybe we could say something like, yeah, we want to address the Fed's concerns,
[21:51.440 --> 21:55.440]  although we'd be saying it, and you know, we would really know, yeah, we're just saying it
[21:55.440 --> 21:57.440]  to make people feel better.
[21:57.440 --> 22:01.440]  That isn't even the case here.
[22:01.440 --> 22:09.440]  Well, see, Dan, I think that there may be other issues at stake here, because we all know
[22:09.440 --> 22:16.440]  that the Congress could repeal the Federal Reserve Act any time they wanted to.
[22:16.440 --> 22:19.440]  What is stopping them from doing it?
[22:19.440 --> 22:21.440]  Okay, their vote is public.
[22:21.440 --> 22:23.440]  We can look it up online at any point in time.
[22:23.440 --> 22:25.440]  It's not like the old days.
[22:25.440 --> 22:31.440]  Why don't they just take it back if it seems so easy?
[22:31.440 --> 22:35.440]  And I have to consider that these are thugsters.
[22:35.440 --> 22:36.440]  They're mobsters.
[22:36.440 --> 22:38.440]  They're criminal cabal.
[22:38.440 --> 22:43.440]  And they're holding something over these congressmen's heads, if not their very lives
[22:43.440 --> 22:44.440]  and their families' lives.
[22:44.440 --> 22:49.440]  And it's like, hey, you know, if you want to go home to your wife and kids tonight,
[22:49.440 --> 22:51.440]  you're going to vote no on this bill.
[22:51.440 --> 22:54.440]  I mean, I think that's really where it comes down to.
[22:54.440 --> 22:57.440]  So what do you do then?
[22:57.440 --> 23:01.440]  That's just a bigger reason to stop voting incumbent.
[23:01.440 --> 23:07.440]  If we clean the House and get everybody out and stop putting the same people back in there
[23:07.440 --> 23:14.440]  and stop putting professional politicians in charge of things, we might start to see a change
[23:14.440 --> 23:20.440]  that's worth something to the American people instead of just the moneybags behind the scenes.
[23:20.440 --> 23:24.440]  Agreed.
[23:24.440 --> 23:26.440]  Okay, Dan, do you have anything else for us?
[23:26.440 --> 23:27.440]  No.
[23:27.440 --> 23:29.440]  I just heard you guys talking about that.
[23:29.440 --> 23:31.440]  And I looked at it.
[23:31.440 --> 23:34.440]  And I can't even describe what happened.
[23:34.440 --> 23:36.440]  But my jaw just hit the floor.
[23:36.440 --> 23:42.440]  And I immediately responded and posted it everywhere and said, look, this is no good.
[23:42.440 --> 23:44.440]  I mean, for whatever the reason.
[23:44.440 --> 23:48.440]  I know a lot of people will say like, you know, yeah, I wouldn't doubt that, you know,
[23:48.440 --> 23:50.440]  there have been threats made probably.
[23:50.440 --> 23:53.440]  I mean, after all, look at what Hank Paulson did.
[23:53.440 --> 23:56.440]  He said put the money in the bag or the economy gets it.
[23:56.440 --> 24:03.440]  I mean, me, I figured, yeah, you know, if I was in that position, I would probably be in a lot of danger.
[24:03.440 --> 24:08.440]  But on the other hand, I could say, okay, have the money.
[24:08.440 --> 24:13.440]  And then like six, nine months, maybe two years later, they're going to be back looking for more
[24:13.440 --> 24:19.440]  until at which point I pretty much have nowhere to go and I'm kind of up against the wall.
[24:19.440 --> 24:22.440]  I mean, if you know what I'm saying.
[24:22.440 --> 24:24.440]  So, you know, I'll let you get on with the show.
[24:24.440 --> 24:28.440]  But I figured I had to call in and, you know, I did look at it.
[24:28.440 --> 24:30.440]  I was none too pleased.
[24:30.440 --> 24:32.440]  But we'll see what happens.
[24:32.440 --> 24:34.440]  All right.
[24:34.440 --> 24:36.440]  Well, thank you, Dan.
[24:36.440 --> 24:37.440]  Take it easy, guys.
[24:37.440 --> 24:38.440]  Thanks.
[24:38.440 --> 24:39.440]  Okay.
[24:39.440 --> 24:41.440]  We're going to start taking callers here in just a moment.
[24:41.440 --> 24:46.440]  Before we do, we wanted to give an update on the FCC issue.
[24:46.440 --> 24:52.440]  Randy and I have basically been working night and day for the last two weeks on nothing else.
[24:52.440 --> 24:59.440]  So people who are waiting on the audio and video from the seminar, very apologize to y'all.
[24:59.440 --> 25:07.440]  But this has been a crisis-critical situation here regarding the micro-FMs.
[25:07.440 --> 25:13.440]  And we've had to basically drop everything else in our entire lives to deal with this
[25:13.440 --> 25:18.440]  because it's a very critical issue.
[25:18.440 --> 25:22.440]  We filed, I'm a co-plaintiff too.
[25:22.440 --> 25:29.440]  Randy and I are co-plaintiffs in this situation here regarding the 90.1 and 100.1 here in Austin.
[25:29.440 --> 25:33.440]  And we filed suit yesterday.
[25:33.440 --> 25:47.440]  And we went to court this morning to try to get a temporary restraining order to prohibit any in-rem arrest actions on the part of the agent.
[25:47.440 --> 25:51.440]  And for those who may not know what that is, it basically means a raid.
[25:51.440 --> 25:53.440]  Kick down your door and take everything.
[25:53.440 --> 25:54.440]  Okay.
[25:54.440 --> 25:56.440]  They go into maritime law.
[25:56.440 --> 26:02.440]  Anybody who knows this kind of terminology, whenever you see terms like forfeitures,
[26:02.440 --> 26:08.440]  in-rem arrests, criminal sanctions, and the in-rem arrests are the in-rem arrests against property.
[26:08.440 --> 26:14.440]  I mean, they literally will file a lawsuit against the property, not against the human being.
[26:14.440 --> 26:15.440]  Okay.
[26:15.440 --> 26:20.440]  This is all straight up going into maritime law and the commercial process.
[26:20.440 --> 26:26.440]  So at any rate, we file for a temporary restraining order.
[26:26.440 --> 26:33.440]  Basically, we had a feeling that we weren't going to get it, and we did not get our temporary restraining order,
[26:33.440 --> 26:44.440]  basically because I don't think the district court judge here really understood what was going on.
[26:44.440 --> 26:45.440]  Bless his heart.
[26:45.440 --> 26:46.440]  I know he did the right thing.
[26:46.440 --> 26:51.440]  And I believe he's a very fair judge, but I don't think he quite understood what was going on.
[26:51.440 --> 26:57.440]  He asked us, why wasn't the U.S. attorney present today?
[26:57.440 --> 27:09.440]  And what that means is why are we asking for the court to make a ruling that's ex parte without the counsel of the other side?
[27:09.440 --> 27:15.440]  And so we basically explain that, you know, this is a almost life or death situation.
[27:15.440 --> 27:21.440]  We feel in, you know, fear of our persons and our property, et cetera, et cetera.
[27:21.440 --> 27:24.440]  And so that's why we're asking for this restraining order.
[27:24.440 --> 27:30.440]  But he was just too terrified to go up against the feds.
[27:30.440 --> 27:35.440]  And he didn't understand that we're suing the agent personally.
[27:35.440 --> 27:44.440]  It would be inappropriate for the U.S. attorney to be his counsel because we're not suing the FCC.
[27:44.440 --> 27:52.440]  We're suing the human being, the person, because he's acting outside of his scope of his authority.
[27:52.440 --> 27:54.440]  So he didn't get that part either.
[27:54.440 --> 28:05.440]  And he didn't understand our concerns or the other plaintiff's concerns concerning fear of safety, physical safety,
[28:05.440 --> 28:13.440]  because he was saying, well, I was not aware that the FCC was any kind of enforcement agency.
[28:13.440 --> 28:18.440]  Okay. Well, I don't know if that was a lie or, I mean, probably not.
[28:18.440 --> 28:25.440]  I mean, bless his heart, like I say, this guy's a well-seasoned judge and he's known to be fair.
[28:25.440 --> 28:27.440]  But, I mean, he's a state district judge.
[28:27.440 --> 28:32.440]  He's used to dealing with divorces all the time and standard types of civil lawsuits.
[28:32.440 --> 28:40.440]  He doesn't understand about maritime law and in-rem arrests of property, against property and these sorts of things.
[28:40.440 --> 28:41.440]  So I can't blame him.
[28:41.440 --> 28:47.440]  He doesn't understand that we're suing the guy personally and not the entity.
[28:47.440 --> 28:52.440]  So anyway, we didn't get our restraining order, but we did get the suit filed.
[28:52.440 --> 29:10.440]  And we found out some very interesting things today when we tried to fax the lawsuit to the agency and the agent.
[29:10.440 --> 29:19.440]  It turns out that you can't get a hold of the agent.
[29:19.440 --> 29:23.440]  It's like a secret phone number.
[29:23.440 --> 29:25.440]  There's no fax number.
[29:25.440 --> 29:32.440]  And I called the D.C. office and they won't tell us what the number is.
[29:32.440 --> 29:35.440]  So we'll be talking more about that on the other side.
[29:35.440 --> 29:42.440]  And again, you know, all respect to the judge in this case here that handled this today
[29:42.440 --> 29:49.440]  because I believe he handled it in the best way possible for what he knew at the time.
[29:49.440 --> 29:56.440]  So we'll be right back.
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[30:57.440 --> 31:10.440]  Yeah, I got my rent, and I gonna solve them, to the help of government them, prosecute them.
[31:10.440 --> 31:14.440]  Okay.
[31:14.440 --> 31:17.440]  Who's that?
[31:17.440 --> 31:27.440]  This is a race for Mr. Bush. This is a race for Dick Cheney.
[31:27.440 --> 31:32.440]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me. Prosecute them wicked leaders, you see.
[31:32.440 --> 31:37.440]  They're all liars, they tell me. They're all liars, they tell sick stories.
[31:37.440 --> 31:42.440]  They don't believe me, say what they tell me. 3% of Americans vote for Bush.
[31:42.440 --> 31:48.440]  That's why we have a warrant for him. Everybody listen carefully.
[31:48.440 --> 31:51.440]  It's into the world that the issues proceed.
[31:51.440 --> 32:00.440]  This is a race for Mr. Bush. A warrant for Dick Cheney.
[32:00.440 --> 32:09.440]  This is a race for Mr. Bush. A warrant for Dick Cheney.
[32:09.440 --> 32:12.440]  Well, we don't forget most of you. Warrant for him.
[32:12.440 --> 32:14.440]  Dick Cheney, warrant for him.
[32:14.440 --> 32:17.440]  Think about the citizens in the country.
[32:17.440 --> 32:19.440]  They're getting summoned and they're getting angry.
[32:19.440 --> 32:21.440]  We have some warrant we need to solve.
[32:21.440 --> 32:24.440]  You need a prosecutor to come and help me.
[32:24.440 --> 32:26.440]  Prosecutors from any state will do.
[32:26.440 --> 32:29.440]  Come over and let me show them to you.
[32:29.440 --> 32:31.440]  Hear them tell you, tell you.
[32:31.440 --> 32:34.440]  Three issues, but this is the truth, that is true.
[32:34.440 --> 32:36.440]  There's a lot of things to do.
[32:36.440 --> 32:38.440]  You get the citizens arrested.
[32:38.440 --> 32:43.440]  Okay, so we're going to continue on with what happened today.
[32:43.440 --> 32:49.440]  Since we did not get our emergency restraining order to protect the lives
[32:49.440 --> 32:55.440]  and property of our co-plaintiffs, we just did whatever we could today to try
[32:55.440 --> 32:59.440]  to send notice to the agent and to the agency of this lawsuit.
[32:59.440 --> 33:06.440]  And so we proceeded to try to fax the lawsuit to the agent,
[33:06.440 --> 33:13.440]  and I called the D.C. office to get the fax number for Mr. Stephen Lee
[33:13.440 --> 33:19.440]  of the Houston resident agent office.
[33:19.440 --> 33:23.440]  And I get put on hold for five minutes.
[33:23.440 --> 33:24.440]  They want to know my name.
[33:24.440 --> 33:25.440]  They want to know my address.
[33:25.440 --> 33:27.440]  And I said, wait a minute.
[33:27.440 --> 33:33.440]  I need to know what the fax number is for the Houston field office.
[33:33.440 --> 33:40.440]  And the woman stutters and stammers, and she's like, oh, well,
[33:40.440 --> 33:42.440]  can we have someone call you back on that?
[33:42.440 --> 33:47.440]  And I'm like, no, nobody's going to call me back on this.
[33:47.440 --> 33:50.440]  I want to know what the fax number is.
[33:50.440 --> 33:54.440]  Oh, well, we can't give out the fax numbers or the phone numbers
[33:54.440 --> 33:57.440]  of the field offices.
[33:57.440 --> 33:59.440]  Oh, really?
[33:59.440 --> 34:04.440]  Okay, well, give me a fax number, some fax number,
[34:04.440 --> 34:09.440]  where I can fax this lawsuit to so I can give notice because we just filed it.
[34:09.440 --> 34:10.440]  Oh, okay, okay, okay.
[34:10.440 --> 34:12.440]  So she gives me a fax number.
[34:12.440 --> 34:17.440]  And I'm like, okay, so this is going to be passed on to this Mr. Stephen Lee, right?
[34:17.440 --> 34:19.440]  Well, maybe, yeah, we'll try.
[34:19.440 --> 34:21.440]  Maybe you'll try.
[34:21.440 --> 34:28.440]  I said, lady, you guys are a very well-paid, well-funded government agency,
[34:28.440 --> 34:36.440]  and you're trying to tell me that a fax of a lawsuit maybe might not make it
[34:36.440 --> 34:46.440]  to this enforcement agent at the Houston field office from Washington, D.C. headquarters?
[34:46.440 --> 34:47.440]  Come on.
[34:47.440 --> 34:49.440]  Okay, well, it'll get there.
[34:49.440 --> 34:50.440]  It'll get there.
[34:50.440 --> 34:51.440]  It'll get there.
[34:51.440 --> 34:52.440]  Okay, yeah, that's what I thought.
[34:52.440 --> 34:54.440]  Okay, so I fax it over.
[34:54.440 --> 34:55.440]  All right.
[34:55.440 --> 35:03.440]  I find a phone number on one of the letters that was sent to someone else involved in the case.
[35:03.440 --> 35:09.440]  All right, turns out Randy calls, right?
[35:09.440 --> 35:15.440]  And it sounds like it's the guy's personal voicemail.
[35:15.440 --> 35:17.440]  What is going on here?
[35:17.440 --> 35:21.440]  And then we're looking up the phone number, and it still has to be confirmed.
[35:21.440 --> 35:30.440]  Best case scenario, it's a cheesy office, if you want to even call it that,
[35:30.440 --> 35:38.440]  at a strip mall next to a Neen Fuzz and a Shell station on Jones Road in Houston.
[35:38.440 --> 35:45.440]  Worst case scenario, it's a P.O. box at mailboxes, et cetera, in the same strip mall.
[35:45.440 --> 35:51.440]  Hardly a federal building.
[35:51.440 --> 35:55.440]  Okay, so now we're starting to wonder, is this guy even for real?
[35:55.440 --> 35:57.440]  Is he even a real person?
[35:57.440 --> 35:59.440]  Is this a made-up name?
[35:59.440 --> 36:02.440]  We've seen this kind of thing before with the IRS.
[36:02.440 --> 36:08.440]  We've seen female IRS agents give out business cards with men's names on it.
[36:08.440 --> 36:10.440]  So we don't know if this guy is for real.
[36:10.440 --> 36:13.440]  We don't know if it's a P.O. box.
[36:13.440 --> 36:15.440]  It could be some cheesy joint setup.
[36:15.440 --> 36:18.440]  It is surely not a federal building, okay?
[36:18.440 --> 36:25.440]  And I'm looking up on the Internet all the notices of forfeitures this guy has sent out over the last few years,
[36:25.440 --> 36:31.440]  thousands of forfeitures of tens of thousands of dollars.
[36:31.440 --> 36:34.440]  And most of them are not even pirate radio, if you want to call it that,
[36:34.440 --> 36:42.440]  which I don't believe it is because actually intrastate radio transmissions are not illegal anyway.
[36:42.440 --> 36:44.440]  It's a misnomer to call it pirate.
[36:44.440 --> 36:53.440]  So anyways, thousands, and most of them are to corporations and big businesses, department stores,
[36:53.440 --> 36:59.440]  where this guy is hounding these department stores for tens of thousands of dollars
[36:59.440 --> 37:03.440]  for minor infractions of their security systems.
[37:03.440 --> 37:08.440]  And we're wondering, how much of this money is this guy pocketing?
[37:08.440 --> 37:11.440]  And is this guy even for real?
[37:11.440 --> 37:14.440]  Okay, so this is what we're up against.
[37:14.440 --> 37:18.440]  And I don't know.
[37:18.440 --> 37:20.440]  It's shady.
[37:20.440 --> 37:22.440]  I don't like it.
[37:22.440 --> 37:25.440]  And I don't think we have all that much to be afraid of.
[37:25.440 --> 37:29.440]  So I proceeded with more FOIAs today.
[37:29.440 --> 37:32.440]  I FOIAed all their personnel files and all their oaths of office.
[37:32.440 --> 37:37.440]  And I know for a fact that at least one of them doesn't have an oath of office, all right?
[37:37.440 --> 37:39.440]  So we get to sue them personally.
[37:39.440 --> 37:41.440]  So that's the way it is.
[37:41.440 --> 37:44.440]  I mean, we got to stand up for ourselves here.
[37:44.440 --> 37:46.440]  We got to stand up for the community.
[37:46.440 --> 37:51.440]  We got to stand up for the people who are running the radio because this is BS, okay?
[37:51.440 --> 37:54.440]  These guys are not even for real.
[37:54.440 --> 37:56.440]  I don't even think they are for real.
[37:56.440 --> 37:59.440]  They're certainly not acting within the scope of their authority.
[37:59.440 --> 38:00.440]  And we can prove it.
[38:00.440 --> 38:08.440]  So we just got to take back what belongs to us, right, Randy?
[38:08.440 --> 38:12.440]  Yeah, and I think it's the right time.
[38:12.440 --> 38:20.440]  I'm looking at this, and we've had a number of states pass this Tenth Amendment Initiative.
[38:20.440 --> 38:34.440]  That's really a big deal to get the state legislators angry enough at the Fed to do something this unprecedented and outstanding.
[38:34.440 --> 38:41.440]  So it indicates that the states are really annoyed at the federal intrusion.
[38:41.440 --> 38:52.440]  And we can make a good argument that the FCC is not living up to its charter.
[38:52.440 --> 38:58.440]  Charter of the FCC was intended to make the airways available to everybody.
[38:58.440 --> 39:14.440]  But instead, they've engineered the gathering together of all of the major stations under five oligarchs who are essentially controlled by this new world order
[39:14.440 --> 39:20.440]  and only put out what the government wants the public to hear.
[39:20.440 --> 39:37.440]  And it appears as though the FCC is being used as an instrument to stifle anyone who would actually say what they believe and not parrot the political positions of the people in power.
[39:37.440 --> 39:47.440]  They are required by their commission to issue licenses to anyone who is qualified.
[39:47.440 --> 39:52.440]  They have not issued a low-power license since 2003.
[39:52.440 --> 39:54.440]  Well, see, Randy, there's still an issue.
[39:54.440 --> 39:57.440]  I mean, you're kind of going to the merits of the case now.
[39:57.440 --> 40:03.440]  There's still an issue that it doesn't look to me like these guys even have jurisdiction at all.
[40:03.440 --> 40:09.440]  I mean, this is an infringement on the sovereignty and the authority of the state governments.
[40:09.440 --> 40:19.440]  I mean, the state of Texas, the legislature deregulated radio transmissions in 1981.
[40:19.440 --> 40:29.440]  And I'm starting to think that the reason they did that is because the feds were so much getting in their way that they couldn't regulate it.
[40:29.440 --> 40:34.440]  So may as well repeal the law.
[40:34.440 --> 40:59.440]  I mean, they're interfering with the state's ability to tax and regulate an activity that is solely within the state, not that we want them to, but the states couldn't anyway.
[40:59.440 --> 41:04.440]  Well, I don't think we should allow the fed to reach any further into anything else than what they already have,
[41:04.440 --> 41:08.440]  and we should start burning their fingers and making them yank them back.
[41:08.440 --> 41:15.440]  And hopefully what you guys are about to do to them will facilitate that.
[41:15.440 --> 41:23.440]  Yeah, and worst-case scenario, you know, we get the jurisdiction challenge shot down in court,
[41:23.440 --> 41:31.440]  and we have to argue the merits of the case, which we have plenty of ammunition to do so.
[41:31.440 --> 41:40.440]  Like what Randy is saying, they haven't issued a license in six years, almost going on seven years.
[41:40.440 --> 41:54.440]  And the whole thing about the FCC and its charter and giving licenses, issuing licenses, is about serving the public interest.
[41:54.440 --> 42:03.440]  And that's where we need the listener's help with the letters.
[42:03.440 --> 42:09.440]  Yeah, well, saying the FCC serves the public interest is like saying a vampire is good at running the bloodmobile.
[42:09.440 --> 42:17.440]  Oh, no, I'm talking about letters testifying that the radio station serves the public interest.
[42:17.440 --> 42:30.440]  They're required to issue licenses to stations that show that they serve the public interest.
[42:30.440 --> 42:39.440]  But see, our idea required and their idea required, you know.
[42:39.440 --> 42:42.440]  Randy, you've gotten awful quiet.
[42:42.440 --> 42:47.440]  Yeah, we're getting a bunch of callers building up.
[42:47.440 --> 42:51.440]  Do you want to take some callers?
[42:51.440 --> 42:53.440]  I'm all for it.
[42:53.440 --> 43:06.440]  Sure. Let's go to the callers and see what they have to say about whether or not we're serving the public interest.
[43:06.440 --> 43:07.440]  We've got Bobby from Oklahoma.
[43:07.440 --> 43:08.440]  Bobby, thanks for calling in.
[43:08.440 --> 43:11.440]  What's on your mind tonight?
[43:11.440 --> 43:13.440]  Well, I was holding from before the FCC.
[43:13.440 --> 43:16.440]  I was holding about the Fed, so I'll make it really quick.
[43:16.440 --> 43:17.440]  No, go ahead.
[43:17.440 --> 43:18.440]  You don't have to make it quick.
[43:18.440 --> 43:21.440]  This is open topics.
[43:21.440 --> 43:27.440]  I mean, really what happened on Wednesday doesn't have a whole lot to do with 1207.
[43:27.440 --> 43:28.440]  Wait a minute, Bobby.
[43:28.440 --> 43:29.440]  Make it quick.
[43:29.440 --> 43:32.440]  We're going to break.
[43:32.440 --> 43:33.440]  Hold on.
[43:33.440 --> 43:36.440]  I was just being annoying.
[43:36.440 --> 43:38.440]  Hold on to the other side.
[43:38.440 --> 43:40.440]  We'll pick this up when we get back.
[43:40.440 --> 43:43.440]  Okay, and we have Robert from Texas and another Randy from Texas.
[43:43.440 --> 43:45.440]  Callers, would you like to call in?
[43:45.440 --> 43:56.440]  512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[45:19.440 --> 45:30.440]  Okay, we are talking with Bobby in Oklahoma. Go ahead, Bobby.
[45:30.440 --> 45:40.440]  Okay, what I was saying is that really what happened on Wednesday doesn't really have a whole lot to do with 1207.
[45:40.440 --> 45:52.440]  I mean, what happened was Paul injected his amendment as 1207 into another bill as a rogue amendment like they do all the time.
[45:52.440 --> 46:02.440]  And in the state of Oklahoma, that's called log rolling, wherever you insert an amendment to a bill that's not necessarily related.
[46:02.440 --> 46:13.440]  And it is related in this instance, but the actual amendment, as far as I can figure it out, went into H.R. 3996,
[46:13.440 --> 46:18.440]  which is the Financial Stability Improvement Act of 2009.
[46:18.440 --> 46:23.440]  And I got this from official.gov website from that day.
[46:23.440 --> 46:36.440]  And that's introduced by Bobby Frank. So you have every reason to be suspicious of this.
[46:36.440 --> 46:40.440]  We have every reason to be suspicious of everything they do.
[46:40.440 --> 46:50.440]  The one thing I'm certain of, if whatever we hear from the government is designed for public consumption
[46:50.440 --> 46:58.440]  and does not necessarily have anything to do with anything in the real world.
[46:58.440 --> 47:02.440]  And I suspect this bill is all for show.
[47:02.440 --> 47:16.440]  But the fact that it's moving along and that we are pointing a finger, at least pointing a finger at the Fed, I think is a major step up.
[47:16.440 --> 47:23.440]  Yeah, I think what will really get out of this is that this bill will most likely get passed.
[47:23.440 --> 47:28.440]  And it doesn't allow the audit of the Fed to stand it on its own legs.
[47:28.440 --> 47:35.440]  But what it does do is it injects audit of the Fed as a poison pill in a larger bill that gets passed.
[47:35.440 --> 47:40.440]  And if you read through the bill, it's not very friendly to what we would want.
[47:40.440 --> 47:46.440]  And when you get down to Paul's amendment, it gets really down to business.
[47:46.440 --> 47:56.440]  And if it gets passed, it's a flop.
[47:56.440 --> 48:01.440]  But I think it's kind of standard procedure.
[48:01.440 --> 48:05.440]  What can we hope for?
[48:05.440 --> 48:08.440]  Right now we have nothing but scoundrels.
[48:08.440 --> 48:12.440]  They own the ballot box, so they're pretty confident.
[48:12.440 --> 48:15.440]  They can put into office whoever they want to.
[48:15.440 --> 48:30.440]  So I want to be encouraged, but Dan Reel called and he broke my bubble.
[48:30.440 --> 48:32.440]  Anyway, you have any more comments?
[48:32.440 --> 48:34.440]  No, he's right on track.
[48:34.440 --> 48:36.440]  There's not much to this.
[48:36.440 --> 48:44.440]  And as long as the Fed is printing the dollars to monetize the money that Congress is spending, this will never hit.
[48:44.440 --> 48:52.440]  And the only hope that we have is to take over our neighborhoods because you can't win the whole nation.
[48:52.440 --> 48:56.440]  I absolutely agree.
[48:56.440 --> 48:58.440]  And that's all I have?
[48:58.440 --> 49:00.440]  Okay, thank you.
[49:00.440 --> 49:01.440]  Thank you.
[49:01.440 --> 49:05.440]  Okay, then we're going to go to Robert from Texas.
[49:05.440 --> 49:06.440]  Yeah.
[49:06.440 --> 49:07.440]  Robert, you there?
[49:07.440 --> 49:08.440]  Yeah.
[49:08.440 --> 49:09.440]  Can you hear me good?
[49:09.440 --> 49:10.440]  Yes, we can.
[49:10.440 --> 49:15.440]  Anyway, you wanted me to call in tonight on that third-party debt collector that the courts hire,
[49:15.440 --> 49:19.440]  but I'd like to make a couple of comments on what y'all are talking about.
[49:19.440 --> 49:26.440]  You need to find a user-friendly congressman to help you find this agent somehow, some way.
[49:26.440 --> 49:30.440]  And number two is, I don't know if y'all are familiar with Alan Dask.
[49:30.440 --> 49:38.440]  He fought a battle for two or three years against the FDA Food and Drug Administration on some collodial silver.
[49:38.440 --> 49:39.440]  He was having a guy.
[49:39.440 --> 49:45.440]  And he found out that this FDA agent wore two hats.
[49:45.440 --> 49:48.440]  He was also connected to the attorney general.
[49:48.440 --> 49:50.440]  And so you never know about these guys.
[49:50.440 --> 49:52.440]  You've always got surprises.
[49:52.440 --> 49:55.440]  Let me tell you.
[49:55.440 --> 49:58.440]  So those are a couple things you might consider.
[49:58.440 --> 50:03.440]  I'm beginning to think this guy may be a private contractor.
[50:03.440 --> 50:10.440]  And he gets a commission on the fines that he secures.
[50:10.440 --> 50:25.440]  So he's put in a position supposedly to rule on whether or not the fines should be imposed.
[50:25.440 --> 50:33.440]  But I'm going to bet when we get into this, we find out imposing the fine lines as pockets.
[50:33.440 --> 50:38.440]  And this is absolutely in violation of due process.
[50:38.440 --> 50:43.440]  And if this works out the way we expect it to,
[50:43.440 --> 50:51.440]  we may be able to go back to these other fines and start muddying the water on those,
[50:51.440 --> 51:00.440]  because I think all of it is strictly designed to grant no due process to anyone.
[51:00.440 --> 51:06.440]  Would you recognize a police state if you were in one?
[51:06.440 --> 51:09.440]  Most certainly.
[51:09.440 --> 51:11.440]  I see one.
[51:11.440 --> 51:15.440]  It's not a matter of whether or not we're going to a police state.
[51:15.440 --> 51:17.440]  We are well into it.
[51:17.440 --> 51:22.440]  And most people have no idea, don't recognize it.
[51:22.440 --> 51:26.440]  That really started back when Clinton was in office,
[51:26.440 --> 51:30.440]  and he wanted to hire those 100,000 policemen to help.
[51:30.440 --> 51:33.440]  And now then they're on every corner.
[51:33.440 --> 51:37.440]  And they need something to do, so they take it out on us.
[51:37.440 --> 51:40.440]  But this could backlash on them.
[51:40.440 --> 51:44.440]  I just got something else today.
[51:44.440 --> 51:49.440]  Russell Mortland filed a certiorari with the Supreme Court
[51:49.440 --> 51:55.440]  on some of the issues that I've been pushing for quite a while.
[51:55.440 --> 52:02.440]  And he may actually give his argument before the Supreme Court.
[52:02.440 --> 52:06.440]  That could crack the door open for us.
[52:06.440 --> 52:09.440]  So we've got two good things happening today.
[52:09.440 --> 52:15.440]  And I see progress.
[52:15.440 --> 52:17.440]  I also see a flood rolling over,
[52:17.440 --> 52:21.440]  so it's hard to say we're really making any progress,
[52:21.440 --> 52:24.440]  but we just have to keep struggling.
[52:24.440 --> 52:29.440]  And this fight with the FCC may be the best thing.
[52:29.440 --> 52:38.440]  So far it appears from the research that everybody they go after
[52:38.440 --> 52:41.440]  just tries to defend themselves.
[52:41.440 --> 52:46.440]  No one seems to take on the agency itself.
[52:46.440 --> 52:48.440]  Well, we're going to take on the agency,
[52:48.440 --> 52:51.440]  because I believe the agency is not doing its job.
[52:51.440 --> 52:56.440]  I believe it's an instrument of the tyranny that we are experiencing.
[52:56.440 --> 53:05.440]  Well, I thought we were taking on the agent.
[53:05.440 --> 53:09.440]  That's how we get to the agency.
[53:09.440 --> 53:11.440]  Provided, of course, he is an actual agent.
[53:11.440 --> 53:12.440]  Well, see, that's the whole thing.
[53:12.440 --> 53:15.440]  He doesn't have an oath of office.
[53:15.440 --> 53:22.440]  If we focus ourself on that one issue
[53:22.440 --> 53:26.440]  and he comes up with an oath, even if it's bogus,
[53:26.440 --> 53:29.440]  and the court's ruling in his favor, what then?
[53:29.440 --> 53:32.440]  Oh, well, no, we can never just focus on one issue.
[53:32.440 --> 53:35.440]  That's not what I was saying.
[53:35.440 --> 53:37.440]  He's got an oath of office.
[53:37.440 --> 53:44.440]  It's always been your strategy to go after the agent or the officer
[53:44.440 --> 53:49.440]  or the judge or the prosecutor, whoever, personally,
[53:49.440 --> 53:53.440]  because that's how we take the system down.
[53:53.440 --> 54:01.440]  Right, but in doing so I have to have a position to stand before them.
[54:01.440 --> 54:05.440]  And the more we look at this agent, the more bogus it looks.
[54:05.440 --> 54:08.440]  They may have given us a present.
[54:08.440 --> 54:12.440]  I'm beginning to suspect from Deborah's research
[54:12.440 --> 54:19.440]  that this guy may actually be a contract employee.
[54:19.440 --> 54:24.440]  If I can find that any of his income is affected in any way
[54:24.440 --> 54:27.440]  by the fines that he collects,
[54:27.440 --> 54:33.440]  we have ourselves one serious due process issue here.
[54:33.440 --> 54:39.440]  And this is the kind of thing that could blow up in the agency's face
[54:39.440 --> 54:45.440]  if we can show that they have engineered these fines as a source of revenue.
[54:45.440 --> 54:53.440]  I certainly want to see where these forfeitures go.
[54:53.440 --> 54:57.440]  Well, that's not too hard to find out, at least on the front end,
[54:57.440 --> 55:00.440]  because they got the bank routing number
[55:00.440 --> 55:03.440]  and the account number on the forfeiture notices.
[55:03.440 --> 55:08.440]  Why are the money here?
[55:08.440 --> 55:11.440]  I want to see who owns the bank account.
[55:11.440 --> 55:15.440]  And even if it's a government bank account,
[55:15.440 --> 55:19.440]  I want to audit trail on the money that they collect.
[55:19.440 --> 55:21.440]  Where does the money go?
[55:21.440 --> 55:25.440]  If the money goes back into the budget of the agency,
[55:25.440 --> 55:29.440]  it's an absolute due process violation.
[55:29.440 --> 55:33.440]  Then we go to, oh, I forget the name of the case,
[55:33.440 --> 55:38.440]  but there's a couple of really strong cases on this issue.
[55:38.440 --> 55:41.440]  Toohey, Ohio.
[55:41.440 --> 55:45.440]  The opinion was written by Taft,
[55:45.440 --> 55:52.440]  president then of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
[55:52.440 --> 55:55.440]  If the adjudicator,
[55:55.440 --> 55:59.440]  like in this case they were talking about municipal judges,
[55:59.440 --> 56:03.440]  and since the fines went to the city
[56:03.440 --> 56:07.440]  for whom the judge worked at the city's pleasure,
[56:07.440 --> 56:14.440]  the judge was necessarily disqualified as a matter of law.
[56:14.440 --> 56:17.440]  Now we have an agent
[56:17.440 --> 56:23.440]  with apparently no judicial training or knowledge of any kind.
[56:23.440 --> 56:25.440]  We don't know if he knows anything.
[56:25.440 --> 56:29.440]  I suspect at most he's an electrical engineer.
[56:29.440 --> 56:34.440]  And I can assure you that doesn't qualify him for squat,
[56:34.440 --> 56:36.440]  especially making judicial-type decisions
[56:36.440 --> 56:41.440]  that go to seizure of private property.
[56:41.440 --> 56:44.440]  And if the seizure of that private property
[56:44.440 --> 56:46.440]  winds up lining his pockets
[56:46.440 --> 56:51.440]  or adding to the budget of the department
[56:51.440 --> 56:54.440]  who hires him and pays his bill,
[56:54.440 --> 56:57.440]  these guys got a problem.
[56:57.440 --> 57:03.440]  And we want to bring it right to their doorstep.
[57:03.440 --> 57:06.440]  Okay, Randy,
[57:06.440 --> 57:07.440]  do you have a question or comment,
[57:07.440 --> 57:09.440]  or do we kind of run off and left you?
[57:09.440 --> 57:11.440]  It's Robert.
[57:11.440 --> 57:14.440]  You guys told me to call them again.
[57:14.440 --> 57:17.440]  And just quickly, on this third-party debt collector
[57:17.440 --> 57:20.440]  that the courts hire,
[57:20.440 --> 57:22.440]  you said file bar grievances.
[57:22.440 --> 57:24.440]  Do you have any other ideas?
[57:24.440 --> 57:27.440]  Because there's actually a warrant showing,
[57:27.440 --> 57:31.440]  it says there's a warrant on the city of Arlington's website.
[57:31.440 --> 57:33.440]  But I know there's not a warrant.
[57:33.440 --> 57:35.440]  That's just something they put up there, I believe.
[57:35.440 --> 57:38.440]  What do you all think?
[57:38.440 --> 57:42.440]  Generally, they've kind of quit issuing warrants.
[57:42.440 --> 57:45.440]  I know if it's an Arlington warrant,
[57:45.440 --> 57:48.440]  if you know a police officer,
[57:48.440 --> 57:52.440]  you ask him to check and see if you show anything.
[57:52.440 --> 57:55.440]  In the Dallas-Fort Worth area,
[57:55.440 --> 57:59.440]  they post tickets only on the regional computer,
[57:59.440 --> 58:03.440]  which includes the 15 surrounding counties,
[58:03.440 --> 58:05.440]  because they don't want you arrested
[58:05.440 --> 58:08.440]  any farther than they want transport.
[58:08.440 --> 58:10.440]  They certainly don't want you arrested in Houston
[58:10.440 --> 58:12.440]  for a ticket in Dallas,
[58:12.440 --> 58:14.440]  because it costs them more to transport a Porsche there
[58:14.440 --> 58:17.440]  than the tickets were.
[58:17.440 --> 58:20.440]  And they've pretty well quit doing tickets.
[58:20.440 --> 58:22.440]  I've got one I didn't pay,
[58:22.440 --> 58:25.440]  and they won't let me have my license until I pay,
[58:25.440 --> 58:29.440]  but I don't really want my license anyway.
[58:29.440 --> 58:32.440]  But no warrants.
[58:32.440 --> 58:37.440]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[58:37.440 --> 58:39.440]  I guess, Randy, we need to talk about yours
[58:39.440 --> 58:41.440]  a little more on the other side.
[58:41.440 --> 58:43.440]  His name is Robert,
[58:43.440 --> 58:46.440]  and we also have Gary from Georgia who called in
[58:46.440 --> 58:48.440]  to talk about this FCC issue from last night.
[58:48.440 --> 58:51.440]  We need to tell people what we're really talking about here.
[58:51.440 --> 58:53.440]  Yeah, we're talking about anything that the listeners
[58:53.440 --> 58:55.440]  want to talk about. Call in.
[58:55.440 --> 59:03.440]  wants to talk about anything that the listeners
[59:03.440 --> 59:04.440]  want to talk about. Call in.
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[01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.160]  110,000 foreign troops are currently fighting in the country and thousands of civilians
[01:00:14.160 --> 01:00:18.480]  have been killed since the 2001 U.S. invasion.
[01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:24.960]  Colombia claims Venezuelan troops Thursday blew up two pedestrian bridges over the Santander
[01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:28.560]  River on the Venezuelan-Colombian border.
[01:00:28.560 --> 01:00:32.480]  American ministers denounced the actions in the Organization of American States and the
[01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:33.480]  UN.
[01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:38.920]  The U.S. Army will allow the media limited coverage of Sarah Palin's appearance at Fort
[01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:44.760]  Bragg next week to plug her book Going Rogue, but the Army will ban the media from interviewing
[01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:55.560]  Palin fearing it will turn into a political grandstanding against Barack Obama, the commander-in-chief.
[01:00:55.560 --> 01:01:02.320]  A woman who says she was raped in 2005 while working in Iraq for a former Halliburton subsidiary
[01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:06.280]  has been awarded nearly $3 million by an arbitrator.
[01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:11.760]  Tracy Barker had sued U.S. contractor KBR and its former parent company Halliburton
[01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:18.340]  in 2007, claiming she was sexually attacked by a State Department employee while working
[01:01:18.340 --> 01:01:21.320]  as a civilian contractor in Basra.
[01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:27.320]  A federal judge dismissed Barker's lawsuit in 2008, ruling she had to abide by an employment
[01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:32.160]  agreement that said any claims she made against the companies would have to be settled through
[01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:33.160]  arbitration.
[01:01:33.160 --> 01:01:38.640]  Barker says she was consistently subjected to sexually explicit comments and verbal and
[01:01:38.640 --> 01:01:43.720]  physical threats of abuse, but when she and other employees complained, the companies
[01:01:43.720 --> 01:01:46.200]  retaliated against her.
[01:01:46.200 --> 01:01:51.300]  Last month a senator approved a measure prohibiting the Pentagon from contracting with companies
[01:01:51.300 --> 01:02:00.000]  that require employees to resolve sexual assault and other claims through arbitration.
[01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:06.920]  A Florida jury ordered tobacco giant Philip Morris Thursday to pay $300 million in damages
[01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:11.560]  to a former smoker, the largest fine ever in such a case.
[01:02:11.560 --> 01:02:15.920]  Ex-smoker Cindy Norgle suffers from severe emphysema.
[01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:21.040]  Norgle's attorney Robert Kelly said Philip Morris had refused to accept any responsibility
[01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:26.520]  for her emphysema even though she was an addicted customer for 25 years.
[01:02:26.520 --> 01:02:31.760]  Murray Garnick, a Philip Morris lawyer, said, �We believe that the punitive damages award
[01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:37.520]  is grossly excessive and a clear violation of constitutional and state law.�
[01:02:37.520 --> 01:02:43.280]  Norgle's lawsuit was one of thousands the Supreme Court ruled in 2006 could be filed
[01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.560]  individually but not as part of a class action suit.
[01:02:47.560 --> 01:02:54.560]  Some 4,000 similar claims are pending in federal court.
[01:03:17.600 --> 01:03:28.600]  I�ve read his book and he says he cares not for the unsightly.
[01:03:28.600 --> 01:03:35.600]  These warmongers come by that term rightly.
[01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:42.600]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[01:03:42.600 --> 01:03:44.640]  Ain�t gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:44.640 --> 01:03:52.640]  with my money. I won't pay for the fun with my body. Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy.
[01:03:52.640 --> 01:04:00.640]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body. I won't pay for the boys with my money. Ain't gonna pay
[01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:11.640]  for the kids with my body. The whole agenda smells funny. I wanna fight in a war of my own.
[01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:27.640]  That one would be less active than a pro. I wanna pay for a war of my own. They live in
[01:04:27.640 --> 01:04:37.640]  glass houses so I can watch them grow bone. I wanna fight in a war I can win. I can never win
[01:04:37.640 --> 01:04:47.640]  the one they laid out me in. That one I lose long before it begins. I wanna pay for a war I can win.
[01:04:47.640 --> 01:05:07.640]  When I'm fighting in my own war, it's such a peaceful feeling. When I'm paying for my own war,
[01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:17.640]  I take time for the healing. Yeah.
[01:05:17.640 --> 01:05:23.640]  Okay, we are back. We're taking a call. So we're speaking with Robert in Texas.
[01:05:23.640 --> 01:05:27.640]  Okay, go ahead, Robert. You had some more comments?
[01:05:27.640 --> 01:05:33.640]  Well, yeah. I was wondering what your opinion was on this third-party debt collector.
[01:05:33.640 --> 01:05:39.640]  Do you think that the courts, when they use these attorneys for collection,
[01:05:39.640 --> 01:05:45.640]  did they follow the same process as the Fair Debt Collection Act or did they have another process
[01:05:45.640 --> 01:05:51.640]  just on the contract or what? Yeah, this is what I was getting to when we went out.
[01:05:51.640 --> 01:05:59.640]  What's going on here is this third-party debt collector is a third-party debt collector
[01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:05.640]  who's working for a city supposedly collecting traffic tickets for the city.
[01:06:05.640 --> 01:06:14.640]  And I have some experience in that area. The cities do in fact contract this out.
[01:06:14.640 --> 01:06:23.640]  My daughter's first boyfriend, that was his business. He contracted with cities to collect traffic tickets.
[01:06:23.640 --> 01:06:32.640]  So he is clearly just a third-party debt collector, and he absolutely falls under
[01:06:32.640 --> 01:06:36.640]  the same requirements, which brings something to mind.
[01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:44.640]  When these guys call you, did they tell you first thing that they were a third-party debt collector?
[01:06:44.640 --> 01:06:48.640]  No, no, no. It says they'd just been hired.
[01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:54.640]  $1,000. We need to talk to Mike Maurice.
[01:06:54.640 --> 01:07:00.640]  They're required immediately to inform you they are a third-party debt collector.
[01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:02.640]  Yeah, I understand that.
[01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:10.640]  And if they don't, it's a $1,000. It's not a fine.
[01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:15.640]  I just read today and I'm not supposed to forget it. It's not a fine.
[01:07:15.640 --> 01:07:22.640]  But what it is is you get paid instead of them paying the government.
[01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:28.640]  So yes, absolutely, these guys are as clearly third-party debt collectors as they can get.
[01:07:28.640 --> 01:07:37.640]  They're just outside contractors. They are not acting under the authority of the city in any way.
[01:07:37.640 --> 01:07:48.640]  Okay. But you all said last night that the bar grievance would be in order on the names that are on this document.
[01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:55.640]  Yeah, especially if there's a problem with how they got to the warrant or got to the prosecution.
[01:07:55.640 --> 01:08:02.640]  And clearly there is because the city has no jurisdiction to start with.
[01:08:02.640 --> 01:08:11.640]  And under the screws doctrine, the attorney knows that because by claiming he's an attorney,
[01:08:11.640 --> 01:08:15.640]  he informs you that he's an officer of the court.
[01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:24.640]  So that binds him under screws in that if he violates the ruling of the Supreme Court on any issues he deals with,
[01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:29.640]  he knows exactly what he's doing as a matter of law.
[01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:37.640]  Bar grieving. If they want to give you difficulty, that will give them major difficulty.
[01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.640]  Grover got three different tickets at the time.
[01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:49.640]  And the court is only trying to collect the no-insurance money. It's $1,400.
[01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:55.640]  I'm wondering why they're not trying to collect the other fines for the other two tickets.
[01:08:55.640 --> 01:09:01.640]  But I believe nothing's been adjudicated yet. They're just trying to get him in the court.
[01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.640]  Have they summoned him to court?
[01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:09.640]  They sent a letter.
[01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:11.640]  Who is they?
[01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:19.640]  The clerks. They come from the city without a signature.
[01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:26.640]  They set a court date for him without a signature, and he answered it,
[01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:30.640]  that he needed to signature some kind of authority.
[01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:36.640]  So he basically renegotiated that document to them, and that's been two or three months ago.
[01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:43.640]  Now then he gets this, unsigned demand for payment from the law firm.
[01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.640]  Who told him not to show up in court?
[01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.640]  I don't know. He has seizures from time to time,
[01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:57.640]  and it had gone a couple of months before they even sent anything to him. He thinks real slow.
[01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.640]  Is this a law firm, or is this a prosecuting attorney?
[01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:07.640]  No, this is a law firm to turn this debt collection over to, demand for payment.
[01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:17.640]  Leinberger is a big law firm here and everywhere else that collects money for the IRS and property taxes and everything else.
[01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:25.640]  And I'm surprised that I've never seen them on the municipality collecting the debt before, but it's here.
[01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.640]  Well, never underestimate a lawyer's ability to steal money from everybody.
[01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:34.640]  Right.
[01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:39.640]  Okay, well the attorney's acting as a third-party debt collector, no matter how you look at it.
[01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:40.640]  Yeah.
[01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:44.640]  So they can be treated as a third-party debt collector.
[01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:50.640]  But if they've never taken him to court, that's going to be hard to do.
[01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:55.640]  It says unless a final judgment of conviction has been entered in your case,
[01:10:55.640 --> 01:11:00.640]  you have the right to enter a plea or go to trial on any offense charged.
[01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:05.640]  Right. See, this is something that these lawyers do when they're shopping.
[01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:10.640]  They will go through the public record in the courts and find out what tickets are outstanding.
[01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:17.640]  Then they will contact the person named on the ticket to try to get them to pay the money to the law firm.
[01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:23.640]  And the law firm will always triple what you would have paid in court.
[01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:27.640]  And then they keep the excess and pay off your ticket.
[01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.640]  That's where this extra comes from, and it's $1,450.
[01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:32.640]  That's correct.
[01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.640]  It's a $320 ticket in Texas for no insurance.
[01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:40.640]  Oh, okay.
[01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.640]  Well, I was going to go to the clerk's office and see if I could,
[01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:48.640]  they let me see the records and see if there's a judgment or a warrant or anything.
[01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:54.640]  And I'll probably have a hassle there.
[01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:59.640]  But I think that we can show you how to handle that hassle.
[01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:01.640]  Yeah, I heard you a lot on that.
[01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:03.640]  I'm from Richardson, Randy.
[01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:09.640]  I remember you talking about Noah.
[01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:10.640]  Noah.
[01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:12.640]  Judge Noah, municipal court.
[01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:16.640]  Oh, yeah, Richardson.
[01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:17.640]  He doesn't like me.
[01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.640]  I don't understand why.
[01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:23.640]  I only ask his bailiff to arrest him once.
[01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.640]  Yeah, Randy's such an amicable guy in that area.
[01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.640]  Yeah, he's the kind of guy.
[01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.640]  Yeah.
[01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:36.640]  And you got some good results for that because the judge called that guy back in there,
[01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:41.640]  the elder fellow, and told him that he could say anything he wanted to.
[01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:43.640]  Yeah, Audrey.
[01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:48.640]  I kind of created a monster with Audrey.
[01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:54.640]  Now he can't wait to get in court to ask the bailiff to arrest the judge.
[01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:56.640]  That's good that we need more of that.
[01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:01.640]  We need more people stepping up and standing on these guys and forcing them to do the right thing.
[01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:11.640]  When you go into the clerk, keep in mind there are two questions the clerk can ask of you.
[01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:13.640]  Who are you?
[01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.640]  What records do you seek?
[01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.640]  They may make no other inquiry.
[01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.640]  What back standard?
[01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:25.640]  552 Government Code.
[01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:26.640]  Okay.
[01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:36.640]  Now, they're acting under public records under 1.24 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:44.640]  However, the Open Records Act defines the nature of open records.
[01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.640]  And the clerk is given no authority to ask you anything,
[01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.640]  but the Open Records Act says, well, it's reasonable to ask who you are,
[01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:57.640]  and they have to ask you what records you need,
[01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:07.640]  but it very specifically forbids a custodian of the record to ask anything else of the requester.
[01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:15.640]  So if she asks you anything else, you can consider that an obstruction.
[01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:21.640]  And I don't really hammer a clerk unless I have to,
[01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:28.640]  but if they give me just a little bit of stuff, the first thing I do is go get security.
[01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:33.640]  And I can tell you from experience, it gets their attention really, really fast.
[01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:36.640]  Yeah.
[01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:40.640]  Grover has been around a long time.
[01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:46.640]  We all went to the legal reform meeting at Allard Ash used to have years ago,
[01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.640]  and Grover's probably been in most of the jails in Texas,
[01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:54.640]  but what he does is he asks for a Bible and he quits eating,
[01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:56.640]  and they don't know what to do with the guy.
[01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:58.640]  He asks for what?
[01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.640]  The Bible, to read, and he quits eating.
[01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:06.640]  He's had enough times that Texas Rangers come up here and go back and investigate him
[01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:09.640]  to see if he's nutty or something.
[01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:11.640]  He'll lose his wake while he's in there,
[01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:15.640]  but he has seizures from time to time,
[01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:19.640]  and he can't really handle a court situation because he's just slow.
[01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:25.640]  He's smart, but he's slow, and you can't do nothing in court when you're slow.
[01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:26.640]  Yeah.
[01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:31.640]  So this whole deal here is I was just trying to help him a little bit with it.
[01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:42.640]  Well, what Eddie's pulled up in reading 38.123, if it's a criminal matter,
[01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:48.640]  we can find nothing to prevent someone else from representing him.
[01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:49.640]  Oh, really?
[01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.640]  You can't if it's civil if you're not an attorney.
[01:15:53.640 --> 01:16:00.640]  Well, you can't if it's civil and you're looking to make money off of it.
[01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:06.640]  38.123 speaks directly to there being money involved.
[01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:09.640]  That Code of Criminal Procedure?
[01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:10.640]  A penal code.
[01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:12.640]  Penal code, yeah.
[01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:15.640]  That's the one that makes it an illegal practice of law,
[01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:25.640]  and it also nails the attorney on the other side because he doesn't have a license.
[01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:26.640]  Okay.
[01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:28.640]  Do you want to address that one, Eddie?
[01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:29.640]  Okay.
[01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:35.640]  Yeah, I can do that when we get back, if you like.
[01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.640]  You want to hang on to the other side?
[01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:39.640]  Robert?
[01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.640]  Yeah, hang on.
[01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:44.640]  Okay, yeah, and we also have Gary from Georgia.
[01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.640]  I know who is chomping at the bit to talk about, you know,
[01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:50.640]  the issues you brought up last night.
[01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.640]  We've got other callers on the line, too.
[01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.640]  We'll be right back.
[01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:57.640]  Hello, Austin.
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[01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:56.640]  Thank you, everyone.
[01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:19.640]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your light
[01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:32.640]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand
[01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:40.640]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:56.640]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:18:56.640 --> 01:19:01.640]  Ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch
[01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:06.640]  I get it now, but then I must have been out of love
[01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:11.640]  Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the drugs
[01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:32.640]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker punch
[01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.640]  I get it now, but then I must have been out of love
[01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:41.640]  Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the drugs
[01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.640]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old sad song
[01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:50.640]  You thought you were right, but now you've got it all wrong
[01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:55.640]  It was a weak moment for me, but I had the power all along
[01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:00.640]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old sad song
[01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:04.640]  Okay, Eddie, you were about to address this issue when we went to break.
[01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:05.640]  Yeah.
[01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:10.640]  Penal Code, Section 38.123, unauthorized practice of law.
[01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:26.640]  A person commits an offense if, with intent to obtain an economic benefit for himself or herself, the person contracts with any person to represent that person with regard to personal causes of action for property damages or personal injury.
[01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:34.640]  Two, advises any person as to the person's rights and the advisability of making claims for personal injuries or property damages.
[01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:43.640]  Three, advises any person as to whether or not to accept an offered sum of money in settlement of claims for personal injuries or property damages.
[01:20:43.640 --> 01:21:07.640]  Four, enters into any contract with another person to represent that person in personal injury or property damage matters on a contingent fee basis with an attempted assignment of a portion of the person's cause of action, or enters into any contract with a third person which purports to grant the exclusive right to select and retain legal counsel to represent the individual in any legal proceeding.
[01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:26.640]  Subsection B, this section does not apply to a person currently licensed to practice law in this state, another state, or a foreign country, and in good standing with the state bar of Texas and the state bar or licensing authority of any and all other states and foreign countries where licensed.
[01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:38.640]  Subsection C, accept is provided by Subsection D of this section. An offense under Subsection A of this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
[01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:50.640]  An offense under Subsection A of this section is a felony of the third degree if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the defendant has previously been convicted under Subsection A of this section.
[01:21:50.640 --> 01:22:01.640]  Now as you notice, Subsection A up there speaks specifically to civil trials and contracting to get paid for advising or representing someone.
[01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:08.640]  The word criminal or crime does not appear in unauthorized practice of law at all.
[01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:25.640]  Therefore, it is not against the laws of Texas to represent someone for a criminal act. It's not even against the law to get paid for that representation according to this.
[01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:37.640]  Okay. So, well, he's probably going to have to go into court to keep getting arrested.
[01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:40.640]  What are they arresting him on?
[01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:48.640]  Well, if we're not paying the – they've got the warrant out. They'll arrest him unless he pays it. Don't you agree?
[01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:50.640]  Okay. What is the original charge?
[01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:58.640]  Oh, no driver's license. He actually had a wreck, but he took care of that and paid the guy and fixed the guy's car and everything.
[01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:08.640]  But it was no driver's license and no insurance and I don't remember what the other – the third one was. It's traffic stuff.
[01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.640]  Okay. Well, if it's traffic stuff, that I can fix.
[01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:17.640]  Okay.
[01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:27.640]  If you will send me a contact email at the email address on the rule of law website, I will get in touch with you and I will help you guys get that resolved.
[01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.640]  Okay. That would be great. Really would. I'll do that.
[01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:32.640]  Okay.
[01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:34.640]  I'll let you go now. You go to your next call.
[01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:35.640]  All right. Thank you, Robert.
[01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:36.640]  Fine.
[01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:42.640]  Yeah. We do have a lot of callers on the line. We've got Gary, Randy, Sam, Mitchell, Paula, John, people.
[01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:46.640]  Hold on. Please hold on. We're going to take all your calls. We've got plenty of time.
[01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:55.640]  We're going to Gary in Georgia now. We told him to call in tonight to finish up on what he started on last night.
[01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:58.640]  Gary, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind?
[01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:06.640]  Well, evening. Since you were speaking about licensing, I want to make a short statement upon that.
[01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:15.640]  The United States Supreme Court has stated long ago that the practice of law cannot be licensed by any state.
[01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:27.640]  This was so stated in the case of SC8WARE, the Board of Examiners, and it's located for all to see and read.
[01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:38.640]  It citation is 353 U.S., pages 238 and 239 of the United States.
[01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:52.640]  Also, you have another case that bore this out. It seems the AATRMS 271 SW720-1925.
[01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:54.640]  I'll leave that subject.
[01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:58.640]  Wait, wait, wait. Southwest what? 2D?
[01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:10.640]  No, sir, it doesn't say second, third. I apologize for that. It's got 271 S period, W period.
[01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:23.640]  That would be page 271, page 2720. So that would be 1925 case. That's the older book.
[01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:26.640]  Did you say 2720?
[01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.640]  I apologize. Let me just do it all over for you.
[01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:31.640]  Okay.
[01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:33.640]  SAMS versus AATRMS.
[01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:35.640]  I've got that case, Randy.
[01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:36.640]  Oh, okay.
[01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:52.640]  Okay. I'll give them the site anyway. It's 271 S period, W period, and page 720, 1925 case.
[01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:53.640]  Okay.
[01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:54.640]  Thank you.
[01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:58.640]  All right. So some of the issues you wanted to know.
[01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:08.640]  The gentleman was speaking about the Federal Administrative Procedures Act on behalf of past regulations.
[01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:14.640]  That's exactly right on point, what you and Deborah are dealing with.
[01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:27.640]  This rogue agent says he works for the FCC, and of course they can only, as far as the feds are concerned,
[01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:34.640]  their venue is only in places such as Fort Hood or military bases.
[01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:42.640]  In other words, it comes from Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Federal Constitution, which states,
[01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:48.640]  Congress shall, what, have exclusive, not concurrent, exclusive legislative jurisdiction,
[01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:56.640]  enforced magazine stockyards, and other needful buildings, what, with the consent of the state legislature.
[01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:59.640]  And so that territory is ceded.
[01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:08.640]  And if you want to know where the federal territory is in your state, write your secretary of state.
[01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:12.640]  I've already, Gary, I've already done all the research.
[01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.640]  I spent two days down at the State Archives Library.
[01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:21.640]  I've already pulled up all the files of all the properties that have been formally ceded to the federal government,
[01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:27.640]  and many of them were never formally ceded, including military bases here in Travis County.
[01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:38.640]  In fact, not one square inch of property in Travis County, the seat of government in Texas, has ever been ceded to the federal government.
[01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:44.640]  Well, it sounds like a rib rolling party for the Elodio people to do their research.
[01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:45.640]  Yeah, I'm serious.
[01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:54.640]  And I already have the FOIA from the GSA confirming which properties were ceded, and they're trying to evade the issue,
[01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.640]  but it's all there at the State Archives.
[01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:04.640]  And it's really hilarious when you go and you get the list, and then you start pulling the individual files.
[01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:13.640]  And like I said, in Travis County, there were only two files, one for Berksham Air Force Base, which was never formally ceded,
[01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:17.640]  and one for the post office downtown, which also was never formally ceded.
[01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:26.640]  And you look at the files, and there's a series of letter writing back and forth between the federal government, the attorney general of Texas,
[01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:32.640]  the state comptroller, the secretary of state, the governor's office, and they're all like, well, I don't have it.
[01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:33.640]  Do you have it?
[01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:34.640]  Well, do you have it?
[01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:35.640]  Well, I don't know.
[01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:36.640]  I don't have it.
[01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:37.640]  Do you have it?
[01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:40.640]  And they eventually had to tell the feds, well, sorry, I guess we never formally ceded.
[01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:47.640]  And that was confirmed to me by an Air Force officer who served on Berksham Air Force Base.
[01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:53.640]  He confirmed to me that back in the day, whenever there was an alleged crime,
[01:28:53.640 --> 01:29:05.640]  they had to call in local civil police to deal with it because they all knew that the property of the Air Force Base was never ceded to the federal government.
[01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:09.640]  So what I want to know is where's my back rent?
[01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:10.640]  Okay?
[01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.640]  They just took over.
[01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.640]  They just occupied that territory.
[01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:17.640]  It was never ceded to the federal government.
[01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:18.640]  They never had jurisdiction.
[01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:20.640]  They never owned it to begin with.
[01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.640]  So where's my rent, pal?
[01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:29.640]  I need to get paid, backpaid with interest for that property and the post office too.
[01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:30.640]  Okay.
[01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:31.640]  We got music.
[01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:32.640]  I'll speak later.
[01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:33.640]  Thank you.
[01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:34.640]  All right.
[01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:35.640]  You want to stay on the line, Gary?
[01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:36.640]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:37.640]  I got a lot to say.
[01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:38.640]  Thank you.
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[01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:40.640]  Okay, we're speaking with Gary from Georgia.
[01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:42.640]  Okay, go ahead, Gary.
[01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:48.640]  Okay, the next topic we want to speak about is oaths.
[01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:58.640]  All federal employees have to have an oath pursuant to Title V is the Federal Employees Code.
[01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:16.640]  Section 3331 tells employees they have to have an oath of office, and another section tells them they must have it with them.
[01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:30.640]  5-year-C-2906, oath in custody, the oath of office taken by an individual under Section 3331 of this title,
[01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:43.640]  5-year-C shall be delivered by him and preserved by the House of Congress agency or court to which the office pertains.
[01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:59.640]  Now, if you want to see if a person is a public employee, write a 4-year request to the Office of Personnel Management
[01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:14.640]  or the agency he purports to work for, OPM, Office of Personnel Management, form standard form 61. That is his appointment of office.
[01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:16.640]  What was that form again?
[01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:22.640]  Standard form, OPM, standard form 61.
[01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:23.640]  61.
[01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:32.640]  Yes, sir, I've gathered a plethora of IRS issues, and that's who's who.
[01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:43.640]  So if he's a federal employee, there must be money appropriated for him to work, and that's what you mentioned yesterday, Randy,
[01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:57.640]  because money, the Constitution says no acts shall be made except for money appropriated by Congress and living.
[01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:09.640]  That's in the Constitution, but I'll get a little better for you, because 5-year-C, Section 2105 says employee.
[01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:19.640]  For the purpose of this title, employee except as otherwise provided by this section, or when specifically modified,
[01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:30.640]  means an officer, an individual who is appointed by in the civil service by one of the following acting in the official comparison,
[01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:40.640]  the President, Congress, uniformed service, an individual employee under this section, head of a government-controlled corporation,
[01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:46.640]  which will apply to the United States corporation, 28 U.S.C., Section 3002.
[01:34:46.640 --> 01:35:00.640]  Okay, so if the person cannot prove that he's an enforcement officer by his pocket commission, he has to show that he's an enforcement officer
[01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:11.640]  or just a plain employee, or if he's an agent, and always the law of agency says you must prove up that you're an agent.
[01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:17.640]  Same thing on mortgage foreclosures, IRS, I don't believe it, credibility.
[01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:25.640]  That is part of the rules of evidence. I don't believe who you are, and the burden of proof is on you to show who you are.
[01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:32.640]  So if he's an impostor, it's jail time for him, and first thing, a public officer.
[01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:48.640]  So with that said, another issue you want to look at as far as any employee acting outside the four-square-mile,
[01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:52.640]  well, I think it's four-square-mile, Washington, D.C.
[01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:53.640]  Ten-square-miles.
[01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:54.640]  How many, sir?
[01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:55.640]  Ten.
[01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:59.640]  Ten, thank you. I don't know where I got the four yet.
[01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:10.640]  Anyway, I sent you an email today, Randy, a memo written by Larry Becraft, lawyer in Alabama, telling about practice of medicine.
[01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:20.640]  Same thing that cannot compel people to take those shots, because the United States has three definitions that I know of,
[01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:36.640]  and there's a man, Rod Class, is having a lawsuit in Washington, D.C., with a Washington, D.C., superior court, and I've sent you that information, too.
[01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:38.640]  Yeah, I saw that one.
[01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:48.640]  Good, sir. So it's a very, very important case for all of us in America for our liberty to find out who's who.
[01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:54.640]  So back to this rogue person. He presumes he does this.
[01:36:54.640 --> 01:37:08.640]  My authority, I mean, my statements are that everyone but in America has a mini transmitter, like a TV controller.
[01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:11.640]  Is it at a micro station?
[01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:18.640]  Absolutely. Is he going to tell everybody they can operate remote control?
[01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:22.640]  I don't think so. Not within his jurisdiction, sir.
[01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:32.640]  And one thing about federal jurisdiction coming after you, as Deborah's talking about, the law of standing.
[01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:45.640]  Well, he must show standing. He must show an injured party complaining party. And then you must be in a controlled, regulated activity,
[01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:52.640]  in which your conduct can't be controlled because you have a right to privacy and be left alone,
[01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:57.640]  peaceful ownership of your property without torches interfering with another.
[01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:10.640]  So for the law of standing, everyone in the state of Texas has standing to sue this individual. Why?
[01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:22.640]  Because he's trespassing on their freedom of expression, what radio station they want to, and he has no jurisdiction,
[01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:28.640]  no complaining party. Injured party goes, that's what they mean, injury in fact.
[01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:37.640]  There must be regulations published in the federal register, and they must go through the notice and comment procedure
[01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:54.640]  of Section 5 U.S.C. 553 A and D to have general applicability and legal effect, and they must be published according to the federal register,
[01:38:54.640 --> 01:39:05.640]  Title 44, Section 1505, and the court shall take judicial notice of things published in the federal register.
[01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:14.640]  So if there are no regulations for him to do what he did, it's void. No subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:21.640]  And as we know, subject matter jurisdiction can be brought up at any time in court, out of court, if you're in the can.
[01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:33.640]  So the next thing, and then I'll let somebody else speak, is your 305 U.S.C. Section 301, called the Housekeeping Act.
[01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:40.640]  And they don't have to go through the notice and comment procedures because they're pertained to the own self.
[01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:55.640]  So you need to go to the CFR, Federal Register. First you start with a code, and then you go to the regulations
[01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:05.640]  promulgated in the Federal Register in the CFR. Look at the CFR index of finding aides and see what regulations apply.
[01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:17.640]  I can tell you unequivocally, IRS regulations for canvassing so-called districts or customs districts have nothing to do with so-called income tax.
[01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:26.640]  But they stick to what we talked about, these micro stations, and everyone operates one in the house because they have a choice
[01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:33.640]  of choosing what they want to see or what radio station by remote control.
[01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:43.640]  Yeah, but the output on those are low enough that it falls within an exclusion in the FCC's code, so that's why they don't bother him.
[01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:47.640]  Otherwise, he'd be charged an M-10 grand apiece.
[01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:55.640]  Yeah, but they have no jurisdiction because it's local. It doesn't go over state lines. Just take command access.
[01:40:55.640 --> 01:41:05.640]  Yeah, and actually it's not about the power output. It's about the reading of the signal at a certain distance.
[01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:18.640]  It doesn't matter if you are broadcasting a billionth of a microwatt. You're squashing the signal and transmitting it 5,000 miles.
[01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:27.640]  That still does not fall within part 15. It's not about the wattage of the transmitter. It's about the reading of the signal.
[01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:35.640]  It's like when the cops are on the sidewalk and they take the decibel reading from a band inside a club.
[01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:44.640]  They don't care what the PA wattage is. All they care about is what is the dB reading at the distance from the door.
[01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:50.640]  So all these people who are doing all this stuff and saying they're within part 15, it's really not,
[01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:58.640]  but the reason they're not bothering them is because they're not having as serious an effect as the FM.
[01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:03.640]  And Gary is right. The bottom line, no jurisdiction. No jurisdiction.
[01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:09.640]  Now, eventually we may end up having to argue the merits of the case. That's a whole different issue.
[01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:16.640]  That's why we need the letters from the listeners about the public interest. But Gary's right. No jurisdiction.
[01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:23.640]  The FCC is required to serve the public interest. So letters will be very powerful in this particular case.
[01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:34.640]  And we need money too because Randy and I are out 400 bucks over the last two days for court filings and constable servicings
[01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:41.640]  to save the micros here in Austin. So we really could use the financial help, I'm telling you.
[01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.640]  Yeah, it's getting bad. I'm looking at that nickel in my beer fund.
[01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:55.640]  For real, Randy and I have done nothing for the last two weeks straight but try to save the FM stations in Texas and Oklahoma,
[01:42:55.640 --> 01:43:01.640]  and we're down to one left. Randy's been putting off his clients. They're banging down his door.
[01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:08.640]  They're banging down my door, calling my phone, and clients of Randy's, and I'm sorry, but this is a crisis situation,
[01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:12.640]  so we really need help, seriously, the letters and the money desperately.
[01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.640]  And we need the patience from the clients too.
[01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:22.640]  Well, one of my suggestions, and as I say, I won't get off, I got another good suggestion for you, finding out.
[01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:32.640]  Well, first I'll do that. Go to the United States government manuals online, and you can get the address of anybody.
[01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:36.640]  All right, thank you.
[01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:41.640]  Well, thank you. I'll let other people go. I'll talk to you later, another time.
[01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:43.640]  All right, thank you, Gary. We really appreciate it.
[01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:49.640]  Thank you, Gary, and I do appreciate it. This guy sends me more case law than you can imagine.
[01:43:49.640 --> 01:44:12.640]  All right, and callers, please be patient. We'll get to everyone. We'll be right back.
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[01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:44.640]  Okay, we are back. We're going to your calls, and yeah, to be clear, you know, just briefly again about this Part 15 thing.
[01:45:44.640 --> 01:45:54.640]  It's not about the wattage. It's about what is the reading of the voltage of the signal at a certain distance from the antenna.
[01:45:54.640 --> 01:46:02.640]  And so it doesn't matter if you have a billionth of a watt, you know, candle. It doesn't matter if you're using a 9-volt battery.
[01:46:02.640 --> 01:46:07.640]  I mean, it's about what is the reading of the signal at a certain distance.
[01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:17.640]  The FCC does not want people broadcasting radio transmissions that travel a distance. That's the whole thing.
[01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:21.640]  It doesn't matter what the wattage of the transmitter is.
[01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:30.640]  Like I said, you can squash a billionth of a microvolt and send it hundreds of miles. That does not fall within Part 15.
[01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:42.640]  They don't want it traveling a distance because they want to stifle communication, and that is totally against their charter, and they don't have jurisdiction anyway inside the state.
[01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:52.640]  It's very clear in the code, and the courts have consistently stretched the issue just to ridiculous proportions, and we're going after it.
[01:46:52.640 --> 01:46:57.640]  Let's go to Mark in Wisconsin. Mark, thanks for calling in What's On Your Mind.
[01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:06.640]  Hey, thanks for supporting those micros down there. If anybody wants to buy seeds this weekend, I should ask you off the air,
[01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:11.640]  but we can divert that money into the fund for the micros defense if you like.
[01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:15.640]  Well, we really appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:23.640]  And everyone in Texas, when you get this archived, even if you can only afford a couple bucks, send something,
[01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:29.640]  because I believe the micros are having a huge impact on what's happening in this country right now.
[01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:36.640]  It's really the only avenue right now to get out information in an anonymous manner.
[01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:38.640]  We're the only voice left.
[01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:45.640]  It's extremely necessary because the FCC, these rogue agents have been rampaging all over Texas and Oklahoma.
[01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:53.640]  They've gone and wrecked havoc in Oklahoma City and Guthrie over the last two days.
[01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:57.640]  They've been in Austin causing major problems.
[01:47:57.640 --> 01:48:09.640]  Basically, they've shut down pretty much, they've intimidated the host into shutting down every transmitter in Texas and Oklahoma
[01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:15.640]  that carries this truthful information except for one in Austin.
[01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:18.640]  And we've got to protect it no matter what.
[01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:29.640]  And like I said, we desperately need the money because Randy especially has foregone his means of living for the last two weeks.
[01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:33.640]  And he's got a family, he's got a wife, he's got children.
[01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:40.640]  All right, he has his own life, situations, property that he has to support, bills he has to pay.
[01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:45.640]  He's given up everything for this, and he very much needs the help.
[01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:52.640]  And like I said, we're out $400, me and him, for all these court filings and servicings over the last couple of days.
[01:48:52.640 --> 01:49:00.640]  And we have to do this because we have to set the court precedent to get Oklahoma and the rest of Texas back up on the air.
[01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.640]  Right, right.
[01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:12.640]  Yeah, so if people want to go to Survivor Seeds and leave a note too that it's for the defense fund for the micros, we'll earmark it for that.
[01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:22.640]  And I don't know if people know this, but these people who run micros, I know a guy personally.
[01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:29.640]  And he's probably been doing it for about two years, but he has put ten years on his life, I guarantee it.
[01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.640]  You don't know who's going to break into your house.
[01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:34.640]  You don't know what's going to happen next.
[01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:37.640]  People don't like you.
[01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:44.640]  You know, when they hear the truth and it goes against every paradigm that they've grown up with, they don't understand you.
[01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:46.640]  They think you're a communist.
[01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:47.640]  They think you're a rebel.
[01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:49.640]  People treat you like kryptonites.
[01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:55.640]  Yeah, these people who are doing this, they do it with their own money, their own resources.
[01:49:55.640 --> 01:50:03.640]  And they're hanging it out on the line, as you can see.
[01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:05.640]  But it's worth it.
[01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:17.640]  There will be a time in my life when I will look back on this period and say there was at least one time I did the right thing for the right reason.
[01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:26.640]  And someone once told me that if you're looking for happiness, you're not going to find it unless you look behind you.
[01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:33.640]  We tend never to recognize it until we've passed it, because it's not a place, it's a journey.
[01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:45.640]  And in this life of mine, when I look back at the times that warmed my heart the most, they were the times when I struggled the hardest for the right reasons.
[01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:50.640]  So it may not seem like it, Deb, but we're happy.
[01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:52.640]  I know it may seem miserable.
[01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:54.640]  Well, we know, Randy.
[01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:56.640]  I'll tell you every minute.
[01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:58.640]  We're all going to laugh about this.
[01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:00.640]  Go ahead, go ahead, Mark.
[01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.640]  In 100 years, we're all going to laugh about this.
[01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:04.640]  Yeah.
[01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:12.640]  Well, in 10 years, we'll look back on this, and it'll be a warm spot.
[01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:19.640]  I have a few of those, but not near enough, and everybody needs one.
[01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:29.640]  Everybody needs to say, I personally, as a living soul, made a difference for my having been here.
[01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:34.640]  Every minute that we are on the air is a total blessing.
[01:51:34.640 --> 01:51:42.640]  You know, and Randy and I have been running up into some extremely difficult case law, just ludicrous case law.
[01:51:42.640 --> 01:51:45.640]  We talked about some of it last night.
[01:51:45.640 --> 01:52:01.640]  Arguments from the FCC like, well, maybe someday possibly in some fantastic science fiction scenario where waves could bounce off the atmosphere in some extreme condition that's never yet occurred,
[01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:12.640]  but may possibly, and if it does, then the transmissions may cross state lines and may have an interference with commerce and might interfere with someone's frequency.
[01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:19.640]  And so therefore, because we could possibly conceive it, then we have jurisdiction, so you can't do it.
[01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:24.640]  And the courts are like, okay, okay, this is the retardedness that we have to run up against.
[01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:30.640]  And so that's why we're taking the stance of following the state's rights issue.
[01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:32.640]  This isn't even about the...
[01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:44.640]  The court literally said that while the transmission from this type of a transmitter, this was a shortwave,
[01:52:44.640 --> 01:53:03.640]  normally won't reach beyond 25 miles, there could occur an unusual atmospheric anomaly to where the signal would travel up to the ionosphere, 125 miles,
[01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:11.640]  bounce off of the ionosphere and come back down 125 miles.
[01:53:11.640 --> 01:53:23.640]  You know, guys, if you're in an airplane and you get up eight miles and you try to call someone on your cell phone, it won't reach.
[01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:27.640]  This signal will go about 25 miles, and that's about it.
[01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:29.640]  Well, that was a case involving...
[01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:32.640]  That's the crapola they used to make this assertion.
[01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:41.640]  Okay, that was a case involving shortwave, and shortwave and AM does bounce up and down.
[01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:49.640]  I mean, the military used to use shortwave and AM to communicate with Navy ships across the ocean before they had satellite.
[01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:51.640]  That was the only way they could do it.
[01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:55.640]  But the thing is, it doesn't matter if it could or not.
[01:53:55.640 --> 01:54:00.640]  The thing is, it's a preemptive doctrine.
[01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:04.640]  Did it happen? Did it interfere with someone else's frequency?
[01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:11.640]  Did it interfere with another radio transmission in another state and interfere with commerce or not?
[01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:13.640]  I mean, you can't...
[01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:24.640]  I'm sorry, but I am not going to tolerate a situation where the government is going to prosecute people for something that may happen in the future.
[01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:27.640]  It's ridiculous.
[01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:39.640]  Gary, if you're still listening, that goes to a piece of research I really need to find, prosecuting someone for a crime they might commit.
[01:54:39.640 --> 01:54:47.640]  I know I've seen something on it, but I was digging the other day, and I couldn't get the key word to get a hit on a case.
[01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:55.640]  When I went for preemption, I got the federal government preempting the state governments.
[01:54:55.640 --> 01:55:03.640]  But I'm looking for cases on prosecuting someone because they had something...
[01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:10.640]  Say they've got 200 pounds of nitrous oxide.
[01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:16.640]  Not nitrous oxide, saltpeter.
[01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:17.640]  What is it?
[01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:20.640]  You make the bombs with saltpeter, the other name for it.
[01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:30.640]  Anyway, you go on this farm, and this guy's got this nitrous fertilizer, and he's got a tank of ammonia over there.
[01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:34.640]  So you rescued him for making bombs.
[01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:36.640]  And he said, well, I didn't make any bombs.
[01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:39.640]  He says, well, you've got everything you need to make a bomb.
[01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.640]  And I know I've seen it.
[01:55:41.640 --> 01:55:48.640]  I just can't find it that the courts can't prosecute him for what he could do or what he might do,
[01:55:48.640 --> 01:55:53.640]  because he might actually spread that stuff on his fields and not blow his fields up,
[01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:59.640]  as long as you don't spread them at the same time and use them for a legal purpose.
[01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:03.640]  So you can't prosecute somebody for a crime they might commit.
[01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:08.640]  And that's precisely what the FCC is claiming to do.
[01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:10.640]  That's how they're claiming authority.
[01:56:10.640 --> 01:56:14.640]  They're saying you might possibly interfere with interstate communications.
[01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:16.640]  We're not showing that you did.
[01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:21.640]  And not only that, Randy, this brings up a much more fundamental issue here,
[01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:27.640]  which is what is tort and what is crime?
[01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:35.640]  And if somebody is transmitting radio frequencies, radio transmission, intrastate, noncommercial,
[01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:39.640]  and they have no intention of interfering with anyone's frequencies,
[01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:46.640]  whether local, intrastate, or any way else, and some phantasmic science fiction scenario
[01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:52.640]  in the atmosphere happens to occur where their transmission is going to bounce around
[01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:59.640]  and affect someone else, why can't we just give humankind the benefit of the doubt
[01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:02.640]  that the guy on the other side can call up and say,
[01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:06.640]  hey, can you turn your amplifier down a little bit,
[01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:11.640]  because something's going on and you're messing with my radio frequency,
[01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.640]  or can you change your frequency and alter it a notch or two?
[01:57:15.640 --> 01:57:19.640]  Why do we have to criminalize tort?
[01:57:19.640 --> 01:57:21.640]  I don't agree with that.
[01:57:21.640 --> 01:57:25.640]  I mean, if you're not causing harm to someone else,
[01:57:25.640 --> 01:57:35.640]  I don't agree with the doctrine of preemptively criminalizing a potential tort in the future.
[01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:39.640]  Why don't you send this guy out to arrest God?
[01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:49.640]  Well, I'm going to libertarian principles here of tort versus government regulation.
[01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:53.640]  And that is a good point, because in looking at the FCC code,
[01:57:53.640 --> 01:58:00.640]  I can't find where a violation of the code is made a crime.
[01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:06.640]  We talk about a forfeiture, but then I suddenly read cases where they prosecuted a guy in the criminal court,
[01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:12.640]  but I haven't found where it's designated as a crime.
[01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:17.640]  All right, Mark, do you need to stay on the line, Mark?
[01:58:17.640 --> 01:58:20.640]  Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about this case real quick.
[01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:25.640]  Okay, stay on the line, and callers, just wait on the line.
[01:58:25.640 --> 01:58:30.640]  We'll get to you, and we'll be right back.
[01:59:25.640 --> 01:59:28.640]  The key from the kitchen.
[01:59:36.640 --> 01:59:42.640]  Mr. Robin Heimann and Mr. Einstein, who required written minds, so inclined,
[01:59:42.640 --> 01:59:45.640]  with a pencil and a bat and a lamp on a mission,
[01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:47.640]  unlocked the secrets of the Newspaper.
[01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:50.640]  The time has come to choose our side,
[01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:55.640]  Mr. Robin Heimann and Mr. Einstein.